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MTSU YDSA - Revamped!
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There a good time for us to meet and start discussing plans for the zine? We can do it over video/voice call on here if necessary
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I'm pretty flexible, the only time I'm not available is on Friday evenings when I'm producing a weekly broadcast program.
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I'm free just about every night Monday-Friday. Weekend availability is iffy
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I’m free early in the mornings of Monday and Tuesday
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I’m busy most days until 4, Wednesdays and Fridays are best for me, plus some weekends. Voice calls work for me too
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So it seems like we've all got conflicting schedules...any chance we can meet up after our general chapter meeting on Wednesday?
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That could work.
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I’ll be available for that
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Yeah that works
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Eschmi56
So it seems like we've all got conflicting schedules...any chance we can meet up after our general chapter meeting on Wednesday?
Do we have the room for more than an hour? Or where are we meeting
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Oh yeah I shoulda specified. If no one comes in after us, let's stay in here, but if someone does have the space, let's just find a spot in the commons area
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We are meeting on the second floor balcony of the STU!
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i’ll be up there in a sec
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I wasn't able to stay today but please let me know what yall discuss!
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Sending y'all notes hold on
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Fennelseed
I wasn't able to stay today but please let me know what yall discuss!
You missed out
7:45 PM
We talked about making a zine, designing/printing pamphlets, making interview videos/podcasts, social media, and other outreach stuff
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I’ll look over these soon ^ and I’ll try to make it to the next one!
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Do we wanna meet at the same time next week?
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Yeah, let's do that. I'll probably won't be able to attend next week's general meeting, but I'll try to make it to our meeting. Debate Team practices every Wednesday and I've not been to a practice in a hot minute since they couldn't get others to show up for alternative Thursday practices.
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No problem, we can fill you in at the beginnings of our meetings
8:07 PM
Or you could look at the notes
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Does anybody have a transparent PNG of the MTSU YDSA logo?
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Who’s printing these pamphlets? It may be cheaper to stick to b&w but it won’t look as legitimate
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We can print in color for free at walker library
12:40 PM
My contribution can be doing that as I work here. Send me any desired files and details
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ashton
My contribution can be doing that as I work here. Send me any desired files and details
Sick 🤙
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lwc05
Does anybody have a transparent PNG of the MTSU YDSA logo?
Did you ever get one?
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Could you send a copy my way?
1:46 PM
Just took like 5 mins in photoshop
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Appreciate it
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could you convert that to a pdf?
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Sure one sec
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@lwc05 could you add when our meetings are to the flyer that way there’s like a concrete way to connect with us?
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General purpose tabling pamphlet 1 PDF
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Dug ☭
@lwc05 could you add when our meetings are to the flyer that way there’s like a concrete way to connect with us?
I put all the information on the QR code
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THAT LOOKS SICK AF
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ohhh ok my bad i hadn’t checked yet bc im driving
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Dug ☭
ohhh ok my bad i hadn’t checked yet bc im driving
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You're good
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oh wow
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Great work yall!
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Ravel_PirouzniaJr 9/29/2023 7:59 PM
That looks sick as fuck, great work!!!
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Hello all! I've just been granted access to the Instagram, and will be creating a Twitter and TikTok page for us. For my first post, I was thinking a short informative Vice/Vox-style video about Forrest Hall. I'll shoot it in the next day or two, and either I can edit it or I can send it here for editing.
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This looked better in my head. I've spent the last 5 minutes laughing at this. Needless to say, I'll find another way to advertise our new social media pages.
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graphic design is my passion
6:44 PM
I'm going to post this on the instagram
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LETS GOOO
6:50 PM
liam that’s so sick
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6:52 PM
@everyone LOOK AT THIS!!
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That’s badass
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Hey all, so I wrote out what I want to say in my Forrest Hall video that I'll be posting to our socials.
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Let me know your thoughts.
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I think it sounds great. I can get started on a logo graphic to add to the video within the next few days, I’ll post it here when I’m finished
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Great stuff! Couple things to add: 1. Maybe add a couple examples of name changes? It seems odd that we say there are many more military figures to dedicate the building to, but don't list a couple examples. 2. Rhetorically speaking, when you begin a statement with "the greater this happens," you should finish that thought with "the more that happens." The last line there doesn't do that, so it seems like a rhetorically awkward note to end on. So maybe the last line could be "The greater number of voices we have in support of renaming Forrest Hall, the better chance we have at changing it---the better chance we have at scoring a win for everyone here at MTSU."
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Eschmi56
Great stuff! Couple things to add: 1. Maybe add a couple examples of name changes? It seems odd that we say there are many more military figures to dedicate the building to, but don't list a couple examples. 2. Rhetorically speaking, when you begin a statement with "the greater this happens," you should finish that thought with "the more that happens." The last line there doesn't do that, so it seems like a rhetorically awkward note to end on. So maybe the last line could be "The greater number of voices we have in support of renaming Forrest Hall, the better chance we have at changing it---the better chance we have at scoring a win for everyone here at MTSU."
I was blanking on the other people to dedicate the building to, I know we had discussed some in the meeting a few weeks back. I'm at breakfast right now, but I'll go back and make some modifications.
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Lemme reach out to a history professor that I'm on super good terms with. He might have a couple suggestions...unless the person who gave us those examples wants to share them again here?
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Here's a good one I found: Frank Maxwell Andrews, Lt. Gen. of the Air Force during WWII. He's considered one of the founding members of the Air Force, and despite growing up in TN, there are no locations in TN even named after him! He was killed in action during an inspection tour over Iceland in 1943. Joint Base Andrews in Maryland (formerly known as Andrews Air Force Base) is named after him. This is the base where Air Force One is kept. https://www.tnmagazine.org/world-war-ii-general-may-be-tennessees-most-overlooked-military-hero/
I talk to many knowledgeable people about Tennessee history. Perhaps no fact astonishes them more than the following: Joint Base Andrews (formerly known
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alex (he/him) 10/1/2023 3:57 PM
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3:58 PM
Alice brown or Peter Jennings could work
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we could maybe do a whole separate video on replacement names
4:32 PM
since the options are abundant
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alex (he/him) 10/1/2023 4:34 PM
Really good idea
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I can put a few examples in the video. I just got a tripod for my phone today to make social media posts with.
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4:50 PM
If there's nothing more anyone would like to add, I can go down there this evening and take the video. I like what I'm wearing today, but it's hot AF out.
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@Helsing I think you were the one at the Creative Committee meeting of the balcony the other day who talked about using a bug in our professional work. This is kind of the idea in my head as far as a bug went. Transitioning between our party logo, name, and social media pages.
6:02 PM
Also, for this video, I'm not doing anything special. Just a short little Tik-Tok/YouTube shorts thing that's informative. So we don't have to go too crazy for it.
6:04 PM
The main thing I'm thinking is just a little animation at the end that'll transition to a screen showing our social media pages and party logo.
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Sure thing
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So....I shot the video, the best take I have gas a bunch of sirens in the background because after that take, some fucking dumbasses in a truck came to heckle my husband and I.
8:02 PM
I'll post results once I've edited.
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Oh shit, sorry to hear that you had to deal with those douchebags...should we establish some guideline(s) for filming stuff like that in public? In case we get people's attention who wanna do worse than heckling, god forbid?
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Eschmi56
Oh shit, sorry to hear that you had to deal with those douchebags...should we establish some guideline(s) for filming stuff like that in public? In case we get people's attention who wanna do worse than heckling, god forbid?
Yeah, I feel like if there's a more polarising topic that comes up in the future, those types would actively harass and/or sabotage us.
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if possible it would definitely be good to have other members with you when you film just for safety
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11:01 PM
if i wasn’t working tn i would’ve definitely pulled up
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Just pinging you in case you didn't see but nbf didn't found the kkk
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Elizabeth
Just pinging you in case you didn't see but nbf didn't found the kkk
Oh well, was playing on redoing that video anyway lol
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Sweet
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If you need help let us know! I’m majoring in cinema and writing so I’d love to help or act as security @lwc05 if you’re still taking suggestions, it might be interesting to start right off with the history “the day is Christmas Eve” etc.
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Fennelseed
If you need help let us know! I’m majoring in cinema and writing so I’d love to help or act as security @lwc05 if you’re still taking suggestions, it might be interesting to start right off with the history “the day is Christmas Eve” etc.
Hiya! Just been busy with stuff and all that, but I might just bring out my camera tomorrow and just shoot it as more of a documentary type video. But you're right, starting off with the history would be good for the hook. Add some music for dramatic effect.
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12:41 PM
Ok, for real this time, I'm going to get this done.
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I think mentioning terrorism and intimidation is really important here.
4:55 PM
I know this is unsolicited but maybe going from “named Grand Imperial Wizard. Their goal? To exterminate…from the late 1800s to the present…” would be better for impact.
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Bc overall presenting the nuts and bolts WHYs and HOWs of the Klan, it’s tactics, purpose, leadership, and historical significance in lynch mobs, domestic terrorism, voter intimidation, etc is what’s going to convince people—"all victims of white supremacy matter” might not cut it (edited)
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would you guys be willing to proofread this email i plan to send to the THC
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Good Evening, My name is Dutsch Dorman, I am a junior Political Science student here in Tennessee at Middle Tennessee State University. I am additionally the Chair of our collegiate chapter of the Young Democratic Socialists of America. I am reaching out to you today because you are cited as the...
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I think you might be missing a question mark near the end-it looks good but maybe editing for brevity would help the delivery
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Fennelseed
I know this is unsolicited but maybe going from “named Grand Imperial Wizard. Their goal? To exterminate…from the late 1800s to the present…” would be better for impact.
I wrote that previous one on short time so there was a lot left out of it.
7:29 PM
I've modified it to include those points you mentioned.
7:30 PM
If my mac can find the screenshot of course
7:30 PM
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8:46 PM
when i let ETSU know about the plan they sent me this
8:46 PM
so if anyone has time tn and could make a flyer advertising the meeting with its address etc that would be sick if not i can do it at some point tomorrow night
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Dug ☭
so if anyone has time tn and could make a flyer advertising the meeting with its address etc that would be sick if not i can do it at some point tomorrow night
I’m working an open to close tonight 😔
8:51 PM
I could do it in the morning tho
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so if anyone has time tn and could make a flyer advertising the meeting with its address etc that would be sick if not i can do it at some point tomorrow night
Which meeting is this flyer for?
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the Tennessee Historical Commission meeting about Forrest Hall
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Yeah I can do that in the morning
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SICK
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Dug ☭
the Tennessee Historical Commission meeting about Forrest Hall
Do you still need one?
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I'm working on the video right now, I've got all the audio stuff done, I just need to go to campus and get some live shots of Forrest Hall and I'll be done
10:28 AM
I'll send a rough draft when I'm finished with what I have
10:30 AM
So contrary to what I was planning, this video is coming out documentary style (edited)
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SICKKKK
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lwc05
Do you still need one?
no i think Austin is working on it
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Dug ☭
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Yo, would it be fine if I grabbed some photos from the meeting today?
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11:41 AM
I'm at the call to action part of my video, and I don't really have anything to use for it.
11:41 AM
So I thought just some YDSA photos would look good
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yes that’d be great!
11:54 AM
i won’t be there today bc if band of clue but ravel will be leading the meeting!!
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lwc05
Yo, would it be fine if I grabbed some photos from the meeting today?
I would let people know first in case they don’t wanna be in any photos
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Helsing
I would let people know first in case they don’t wanna be in any photos
I always ask first :). I'll mainly just be photographing the presenters.
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Dug ☭
the Tennessee Historical Commission meeting about Forrest Hall
Where will this be held again? I can’t find the details in the server
2:29 PM
this is the right date, correct?
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yes that is correct date and location
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How does it look? Anything else I should add or change?
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Ravel_PirouzniaJr 10/4/2023 3:06 PM
Dope
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I won’t be able to come tonight, I’m not feeling very well. I was waiting to see if I would better in time but unfortunately no ):
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Lmk what you all discuss!
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all good dawg hope you feel better!!
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Did yall end up meeting today?
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If we did, I didn't go. I had a training sesh at the radio station after debate practice.
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Fennelseed
Did yall end up meeting today?
I don't believe any of our creative people besides me was there. The meeting was pretty small.
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okay, so there exists essentially no photographs on the internet of Alice Brown or Peter Jennings.
9:40 PM
I've researched for the last 45 minutes to try and get pictures for the video, and there are none.
9:42 PM
It doesn't help that Alice Brown is as a generic name as you can get and Peter Jennings was the host of ABC World News Tonight from 1983 to 2005
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alex (he/him) 10/4/2023 9:42 PM
Might be hard to see, but there’s an image of her here
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alex (he/him)
Might be hard to see, but there’s an image of her here
so where does that leave us with Peter Jennings?
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cause yeah, I got nothing
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alex (he/him) 10/4/2023 9:43 PM
I don’t have any
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Tbf photographs weren’t around back then which makes it harder
9:44 PM
There might not BE any images of him
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I was more refrencing paintings from that time period. But yeah, i guess I can just show the exhibit that you had posted about him
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Creative peeps! I am pretty much done with it. All I need to do is do some video shots of Forrest Hall because I'm dumb and forgot to take them after the meeting today.
10:08 PM
And something that would be really cool is if we had an animation dipicting all of our social media accounts.
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THIS IS SO EXCITING YALL
10:10 PM
i’m so proud of what y’all have fostered for this org
10:10 PM
genuinely could not express how proud I am of our growth
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Helsing
How does it look? Anything else I should add or change?
Hey, just letting you know that the town's name is "Piney Flats" 🙂
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lwc05
Hey, just letting you know that the town's name is "Piney Flats" 🙂
Lmao my bad, my brain was a little loopy tomorrow lol. I’ll fix that asap
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lwc05
And something that would be really cool is if we had an animation dipicting all of our social media accounts.
I’ll get this done today as well
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When the video goes live, I've made a poster that we can attach a QR code to and hang around campus.
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Looking good
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I may start posting daily quotes on our socials.
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i think that’s a great idea!
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I added the year for emphasis.
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i definitely have a few in mind that would be good
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Do share! I'll post this one today. I'll warn everyone now I'm kind of a Huey Long fangirl.
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i’ll be honest i’ve never heard of him until now
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Dug ☭
i’ll be honest i’ve never heard of him until now
My favorite politician in American history by far
11:57 AM
"Every man a king, but none wear a crown."
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Holy fuck, the Twitter character limit is like half of what it was before Elon bought it. Fml.
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I don't know how you guys feel about Harry Truman, I personally don't like him that much, but there's a quote from him that I really like.
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not gonna lie truman is a BIG yikes
12:46 PM
the quote is good i agree
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Dug ☭
not gonna lie truman is a BIG yikes
that's why i'm hesitant about considering posting this
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cause i DO NOT want to give the impression that we condone truman
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it might be better to try and source quotes from established socialists
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hang on let me send some i thought would be good
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Dug ☭
it might be better to try and source quotes from established socialists
This here is something that I like a lot. It puts wealth inequality in layman's terms. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hphgHi6FD8k
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i’m gonna dm you a bunch i just screenshotted from google i don’t wanna blow up the discord with screenshots
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@lwc05 hey what video format are you using for the video? Is it a tiktok video? YouTube? What width x length am I looking at
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@Helsing 1920 x 1080.
2:11 PM
It's basically a Walmart brand history channel documentary.
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Sorry I don’t mean to take so long, I’m still working on it
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i personally would advise against stanning or promoting huey long (edited)
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Sidney
i personally would advise against stanning or promoting huey long (edited)
Who is he?
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louisiana senator in the 30s, got assassinated in like 36? He’s been popularized for being in a hearts of iron 4 mod “kaiserreich” for being a right wing populist that is against socialism or in that timeline, “syndicalism” and also known for his “share the wealth” programs
6:35 PM
a lot of people forget that he was very corrupt and would always push for his family members into position of power in louisiana, had ordinary southern democrat views on race like being against anti-lynching bills. He has a right wing populist view of distributionism. (edited)
6:36 PM
i’ve seen things saying he had a private militia and that he grifted from the state but i’m not too sure on the validity of it
6:39 PM
there are other southern populists to look up to than huey long imo
6:39 PM
sidney mcmath was an arkansas governor from 1949-1953
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i think i have another idea for video content but this might be like broader investigative documentary type deal
10:29 PM
idk if y’all are familiar with the leadership institute but basically the guy who tables with SFL works for them and they’re essentially a heritage foundation offshoot trying to implement this plan for a new conservative president to utilize article 2 for this broad unitary executive theory plan to stop “cultural marxism”
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so shady af
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BUT that being said their website lets you contact regional coordinators
10:30 PM
so i’m thinking we try and show that this guy who keeps pulling up to campus for multiple conservative is connected to them and maybe make like a whole investigative deep dive into the leadership institute in general
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Interesting
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i feel like that was a horrible explanation but we could talk more in an in person meeting abt it
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No I get the kist
10:31 PM
Jist
10:56 PM
Sorry it took so long, I had a ton of drafts and exporting issues lol, should be good now tho
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Ravel_PirouzniaJr 10/5/2023 11:00 PM
But this is the manifesto
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Ravel_PirouzniaJr 10/5/2023 11:01 PM
I cant open it
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Ravel_PirouzniaJr
I cant open it
Are you on mobile?
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Ravel_PirouzniaJr 10/5/2023 11:03 PM
Yeah I was
11:04 PM
It opened on computer
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Okay sick
11:10 PM
They’re all transparent so you can place them on any backdrop
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louisiana senator in the 30s, got assassinated in like 36? He’s been popularized for being in a hearts of iron 4 mod “kaiserreich” for being a right wing populist that is against socialism or in that timeline, “syndicalism” and also known for his “share the wealth” programs
Here's my analysis of Long. I'll mention first that Long had never made race a main talking point for his gubernatorial or senatorial campaigns. The Ku Klux Klan very much hated Long, and when an Imperial Wizard tried to primary him, he declared that, "That imperial bastard will never step foot in Lousiana or he'd leave with his toes tured up." and said of the Imperial Wizard, "When I call him a son-of-a-bitch, I'm not using profanity, but rather, am referring to the circumstances of his birth." During Long's tenure as governor, he eliminated the Lousiana poll tax. I will concede that he voted against federal anti-lynching legislation, but later said that it was the state govt's "duty" to stop lyncing. "Share Our Welath" policies had mutual benefit for people across the board who had little access to education, work, and food. His programs created night schools, which allowed working class people, both white and black, to become literate. When Long was assassinated, the NAACP publication, "The Crisis," declared, "Of the late Senator Huey P. Long, Negro Americans may say that he was the only Southern politician in recent decades to achieve the national spotlight without the use of racial and color hatred as campaign material." Second, when FDR's New Deal came into law, he critiqued it for not going far enough in terms of wealth distribution. "Share Our Welath" had every family with a minimum income, and millionaires, a capped income. And at the time of his death, Long was primarying FDR in the Democratic Party presidential race because of FDR's lack of wealth redistribution programs in the New Deal, claiming that FDR backstabbed his supporters. (edited)
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Another thing I will concede is that his methods were a bit problematic. When criticised for circumventing the Louisiana legislature and not understanding the Constitution, he declared, "I am the Constitution." When the Attorney General had said that Long had violated the law with one of his initiatives, Long declared, "Nobody asked for his opinion." Overall, I believe Long was as close as we'll ever get to a mainstream socialist in the United States, and that right-wing fandoms online have tarnished his image. He was very anti-big business, and anti-establishment, and his assassin was the nephew of one of his establishment political opponents.
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When it put into my editing program, all I'm getting is a black square on the background I have.
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lwc05
When it put into my editing program, all I'm getting is a black square on the background I have.
For which file?
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Helsing
For which file?
the social medias
12:10 AM
when I play the file in my video player, I just see a dimmed instagram logo and thats it
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That might be because your player defaults to a black background when there’s transparency. What editor are you opening it in?
12:13 AM
It should get rid of that ugly black background when it’s imported into an editor and overlayed on top of a different background (edited)
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Same thing with the YDSA-logo file
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The YDSA video file I'm able to see on a background, it's just the social media file.
12:16 AM
I'll try a few more things
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I see the problem, MP4 files don’t support alpha layers
12:30 AM
My bad lol
12:32 AM
Try these
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THANK YOU!!!!
12:39 AM
It works!!!!!
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And with that being said, all I have to do is work in my live shots I took today, and it's up
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Sweet
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Sorry for the technical difficulties 😭
12:40 AM
I’d love to see it when it’s finished
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Again, telling you now it is literally a walmart brand history channel doc
12:44 AM
So the plan was to have a social-media type video, but after we had to misunderstanding about Forrest's role in the KKK, I didn't have time to go back to campus and redo the video shoot, so I just recorded audio at home and put some images up (edited)
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Lmao
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That’s okay, this is a learning experience for all of us
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i’m sure it’s still super dope!!
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Let me know if this is good to post to our socials
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Ravel_PirouzniaJr 10/6/2023 8:41 AM
Looks dope
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If no one has any objections, I'll set it to post at 10 am.
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nice work! 👍 The photography looks well done
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I remember reading some particularly poignant work by Ida B. Wells on lynching that we could excerpt
12:23 PM
And potentially print on pamphlets
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i think i know which piece you’re talking about
12:26 PM
i just don’t remember the name of it
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ok so her book was called A Red Record
12:32 PM
also I briefly met a prof who is teaching african american history whom i can probably ask for resources (edited)
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ok the link is the Ida B. Wells-Barnett A Red Record excerpts
12:40 PM
she did a lot of good research and reporting
7:32 PM
Might be good for a post. I'm tabling at the cesspool show
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oh dude the zapatista flag looks so good there
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Punk af
9:56 PM
We should make a post on that
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YEAH IT IS
10:05 PM
ETHAN SCHMIDT MADE IT BIG
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Yee yee
10:05 PM
Watch now (23 mins) | Ashton stops by to spill the tea on the MTSU United Campus Workers' fight for bi-weekly pay.
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alex (he/him) 10/7/2023 10:10 PM
Awesome!!!!
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I'm late to the party
11:34 PM
All that stuff is definitely worth sharing!!
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I've shared the Sidesline piece, but I'm holding off on sharing the podcast. I think it should be further discussed. Because although I personally do not have any qualms with Ethan's views, I think it could be seen as an endorsement of his podcast, and I want all members on this committee to agree to share it. (edited)
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I don't wish to stir anything, I'm just looking at it from an objective, organizational standpoint. (edited)
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i mean i’m not a member but i’ll say ethan’s a comrade of the org so i think it’s good
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Yeah, I'm just saying Ethan has expressed favorable views of Marianne Williamson, and I know that a lot of the people here were against the Marianne event.
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So that's kinda why I'm hesitant.
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well that’s not necessarily prevalent in the interview
12:10 AM
but then again i’m not a committee member so y’all can dictate it how you wish
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It's not necessarily about my views of Williamson. If it were just that, I think that'd be extreme to not share my interview with Ashton. With that kind of rationale for sharing other members' content, we'd go down a rabbit hole of doing purity tests for every comrade who wants us to share stuff. That'd stifle our solidarity, and I don't think we wanna risk that. I think there is a valid concern tho. I might be interviewing her on my podcast as an alternative to the Q&A that we as a group voted to not do, so we wouldn't wanna endorse my podcast as a whole. But I don't think sharing this specific interview with Ashton would do that. For one, we don't mention Marianne in the interview at all, so no need to worry about that. Further, sharing a specific interview is not an endorsement of every piece of content that I upload, just like sharing my article with sidelines is not an endorsement of every piece that sidelines publishes. Ultimately, it's about sharing solidarity with the UCW. That's what the sidelines article does, and that's what the interview does, so we should share that too. It puts a spotlight on two of our own members engaging in two things that are very important to the socialist cause: supporting union efforts and creating independent media that highlights such efforts.
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i would agree but yet again i’m not a committee member
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Thanks for sharing @lwc05 !! Not finding the link in our bio tho?
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Check now.
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It's not necessarily about my views of Williamson. If it were just that, I think that'd be extreme to not share my interview with Ashton. With that kind of rationale for sharing other members' content, we'd go down a rabbit hole of doing purity tests for every comrade who wants us to share stuff. That'd stifle our solidarity, and I don't think we wanna risk that. I think there is a valid concern tho. I might be interviewing her on my podcast as an alternative to the Q&A that we as a group voted to not do, so we wouldn't wanna endorse my podcast as a whole. But I don't think sharing this specific interview with Ashton would do that. For one, we don't mention Marianne in the interview at all, so no need to worry about that. Further, sharing a specific interview is not an endorsement of every piece of content that I upload, just like sharing my article with sidelines is not an endorsement of every piece that sidelines publishes. Ultimately, it's about sharing solidarity with the UCW. That's what the sidelines article does, and that's what the interview does, so we should share that too. It puts a spotlight on two of our own members engaging in two things that are very important to the socialist cause: supporting union efforts and creating independent media that highlights such efforts.
Agreed, I may not be a supporter of her myself but I think this org gets it’s strength thru diversity of thought. I have no problems with our committee endorsing your podcast
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Cuz what if the tables are turned down the line and someone else wants to promote something
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to Liam’s merit i think he was trying to check all the boxes and not step on toes i don’t think he was saying his personal position was that we shouldn’t
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A little unrelated, would you all have time tonight or tomorrow to talk about postering for SNS?
1:11 PM
We could meet over VC
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Y'all should consider sharing this as an individual out in your life too! Our campaign involves applying public pressure to MTSU so sharing this with the campus community is legitimately really good. Also this is the first time the university has acknowledged our union, so this is pretty great
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Oh also for whoever runs the insta- im the secretary not the president. Would it be possible to edit that? Idk how insta works
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i still have access so i went ahead and edited it
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Thanks cool post ❤️
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i think we should at some point this week make a public statement in support of palestinian liberation to put on socials
12:59 AM
From the River to the Sea 🇵🇸 Cal YDSA stands in solidarity with Palestinians.
12:59 AM
something like the post in that link was kindve the idea i had? let me know what y’all think
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I'm down
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we could all draft up something together tomorrow or something
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Sounds good
10:44 AM
Also about the t shirts, does the YDSA already have shirts for sale we can order? Or will we have to print and order our own?
10:44 AM
Cuz if it’s the latter, maybe this committee could start drafting designs
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Do we want to post something for Indigenous People's Day?
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most definitely!
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Helsing
Also about the t shirts, does the YDSA already have shirts for sale we can order? Or will we have to print and order our own?
i have a MTSU student working on getting a design ready for them currently
5:32 PM
the plan is to use our new logo and just have it on a red shirt much like MidTn DSA does their shirts
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i was trying to get a draft of a statement out for us to edit and such before work but i don’t believe i will. Maybe it would be best for us to write as a group at the meeting wednesday? Idk what do you guys think
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Good Morning President McPhee, My name is Dutsch Dorman, I am a junior Political Science major here at Middle Tennessee State University. I am also the current Chair of the Young Democratic Socialists of America here on campus. We as an organization are devoted to utilizing our position as an or...
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11:03 AM
this is not the draft this is the email i want to send to mcphee which is definitely important not to mess up so y’all tell me what we think
11:03 AM
it should have editing privileges open so make what changes you think are necessary
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it should have editing privileges open so make what changes you think are necessary
I beleive it's on view only
11:10 AM
i actually have no clue how to give access to edit
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so when making a sharable link, there should be a drop down tag, and then you would click "Allow anyone with the link edit access"
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should work now
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i'm giving some clarity/grammar edits. feel free to use or ignore
11:31 AM
im not in this committee lol but anyway, hope you guys can use some of my input
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no i appreciate it i wrote it with like three hours of sleep so i’m sure there’s some glaring mistakes
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Are we meeting again today?
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@Eschmi56 are you still passing on meeting today?
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Meeting notes:
  • Committees are dead.
  • Maybe combine creative and PO.
  • Find writers for our stuff.
  • Be less dead.
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it’s an off week that’s all y’all
6:18 PM
promise next week we’ll get right back in the swing of things!
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Yeah I couldn't be there. Practice went late
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Eschmi56
Yeah I couldn't be there. Practice went late
Np, hope it went well!
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I got my ass kicked in a practice debate, but that's how it goes. I'm very rusty
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Oooof
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I got videos from the guys waving the Palestianian flags on top of the parking garage!!
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Another follower on Instagram sent us more pictures
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Hey I won't be at the meeting today. MTSU is hosting a debate tournament this weekend, so I have to be at practice today. If we get out early, I'll be there for our meeting. I'll try to keep y'all posted. I will be there next week for sure though.
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I'm at our usual meeting spot on the 2nd floor outdoor balcony
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We're calling the zine "TPUSA" (The People's United Socialist Almanac) (edited)
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makes me want to rename the political education committee "TPUSA" (Temptation Propaganda Using Socialism Agency) (edited)
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SICK
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So is everyone okay with us calling the zine TPUSA?
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i think it’s good!
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Looks mostly good @lwc05 ! If we could just get the theme on there, mention that we'll take any pieces of content for submissions, and clarify that we'll publish online via substack once the piece is ready to go, then in a physical zine at the end of the semester, we should be good to go.
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Okay, I should be able to do that once I get home from SNS
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7:01 PM
Rn I'm just building bombs in the library
7:02 PM
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Better call that dude with the bumpers on his car for help
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Someone fr told me it looked my tascam kit was a bomb building kit
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University police boutta arrest your ass lmao
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I do wanna add concerning calling it TPUSA that even tho it is tongue in cheek, we could end up turning away people who would wanna write for us and attracting conservatives thinking we’re the other group
7:06 PM
I’m still in favor of consulting the server as a whole
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Eschmi56
University police boutta arrest your ass lmao
Well legally, Liam is my middle name, so I'm not Liam
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lwc05
Well legally, Liam is my middle name, so I'm not Liam
Boutta pull a Saul Goodman on their asses
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I mean, ofc we're going to put the title under the acronym...and if we make the logo have a bunch of leftist stuff in it, I think it'll be pretty obvious what it is.
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I don't think we'll turn away people just cause of a tongue and cheek name. And if we confuse some conservatives...that's good, right?
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We're calling the zine "TPUSA" (The People's United Socialist Almanac) (edited)
Damn lol I thought this was a joke
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Oh no we were serious about that
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I literally thought of it off the top of my head, and the creative committee settled on calling it that
7:12 PM
I'd be a bit worried about it stirring shit up with actual tpusa 🤔
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I mean, what more can they do? They already record us in public.
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Yeah we're thinking of distributing the zine next to them when they table
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I'd be a bit worried about it stirring shit up with actual tpusa 🤔
That’s what I was thinking too
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alex (he/him) 10/26/2023 7:16 PM
I mean I think if it says TPUSA in big letters ppl might take one look at that and go “ew” and walk away without reading the rest bc that’s what I’d do tbh
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Eden (like the garden) 10/26/2023 7:16 PM
i woudl assume the tpusa has some sort of legal mubo jumbo to prevent otehrs from using it tbh
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I mean I think if it says TPUSA in big letters ppl might take one look at that and go “ew” and walk away without reading the rest bc that’s what I’d do tbh
That's why we put a hammer and sickle next to it.
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alex (he/him) 10/26/2023 7:16 PM
I’m all for making a jab at fascists but I think it’s important to brand it in a way that is recognizable as us
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Or we make "TPUSA" in rainbow colors
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Eden (like the garden)
i woudl assume the tpusa has some sort of legal mubo jumbo to prevent otehrs from using it tbh
Yeah, I feel like us using their name would create a much more open conflict and give them way more of a reason to come after us
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I'm scared
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alex (he/him) 10/26/2023 7:18 PM
Yeahhhh idk though. I still think it’s just gonna confuse ppl and drive them away more than anything. Like if we’re planning to make pamphlets like that to distribute around tpusa at events to fuck with them, that’s cool, but does that really need to be our Main Zine?
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I think it would be important to come up with a name and logo that all kinds of leftists can rally behind, and I think a conservative name would make that difficult
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Yeah, I feel like us using their name would create a much more open conflict and give them way more of a reason to come after us
alex (he/him) 10/26/2023 7:18 PM
Also a good point
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alex (he/him)
Yeahhhh idk though. I still think it’s just gonna confuse ppl and drive them away more than anything. Like if we’re planning to make pamphlets like that to distribute around tpusa at events to fuck with them, that’s cool, but does that really need to be our Main Zine?
Agreed
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alex (he/him) 10/26/2023 7:18 PM
Tpusa has way more funding and stuff than us so if they decided to really go after us it would be a huge headache even if we’re in the right
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Yeah it would at the very least be more of a nuisance
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alex (he/him) 10/26/2023 7:19 PM
Which like. In general idgaf. But this in particular is like, they’d have an argument for copyright infringement
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I still think using their name in other ways to satirize them or shit on them could work just fine
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"Turning Point USA" is the name brand. I don't think they can claim an acronym
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alex (he/him) 10/26/2023 7:20 PM
Yeah I think there are ways to do it
7:21 PM
It’s also like. If this is going to be a major aspect of our org, I think it should be smth ppl associate with Us, not the fascists, even if it’s satire. We shouldn’t depend on them for branding, it makes us look like we don’t have our own identity beyond beefing w them. Idk
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Valid.
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alex (he/him) 10/26/2023 7:22 PM
Ppl should look at it and go “oh cool that’s by the YDSA” imo which is muddied by having another orgs name front and center, regardless of intent
Eschmi56 started a thread. 10/26/2023 7:22 PM
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Okay I’ll post the original message then
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Maybe we call it "The People's United Socialist Almanac" and don't infer TPUSA. People just have to make the implied connection.
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alex (he/him) 10/26/2023 7:23 PM
I’m down for that
7:23 PM
It’s a solid name
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@everyone Hey all, we’re currently discussing what to name the official MTSU YDSA underground zine. We encourage you to submit your own ideas (one each please), or react to another submission if you support theirs instead. We will leave this thread open for a week, so take your time and think about it. After that we will announce the most supported name. Fist Fist Fist
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Ping pong
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It’s the thread Eschmi posted above me message
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Helsing
@everyone Hey all, we’re currently discussing what to name the official MTSU YDSA underground zine. We encourage you to submit your own ideas (one each please), or react to another submission if you support theirs instead. We will leave this thread open for a week, so take your time and think about it. After that we will announce the most supported name. Fist Fist Fist
ohmygoshali 10/26/2023 7:24 PM
Do I have to be a current student?
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ohmygoshali
Do I have to be a current student?
No
7:24 PM
Only a member of the org
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Helsing
It’s the thread Eschmi posted above me message
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Helsing
@everyone Hey all, we’re currently discussing what to name the official MTSU YDSA underground zine. We encourage you to submit your own ideas (one each please), or react to another submission if you support theirs instead. We will leave this thread open for a week, so take your time and think about it. After that we will announce the most supported name. Fist Fist Fist
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