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Maybe look at common arguments against our movement and figure out what the best counterarguments are
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Explain what capitalism is
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toomanyrats 3/15/2023 2:20 PM
Stop trans genocide
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Lomania 💦 9/6/2023 11:40 PM
Make a part of this server that you can have general chat in
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And also my friend wants to join when is next meeting?
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alex (he/him) 9/6/2023 11:46 PM
There’s a general chat! You just have to react to the post in #welcome-and-rules for access
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Also I believe the next meeting is next Wednesday at 4
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i should’ve mentioned that in the meeting today that’s my bad
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Lomania 💦
And also my friend wants to join when is next meeting?
but yes alex is correct it’s next wednesday at 4 in the same room as today
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alex (he/him)
There’s a general chat! You just have to react to the post in #welcome-and-rules for access
ive been in here for ages and just now realized this tysm
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444aidan
ive been in here for ages and just now realized this tysm
No lmao I spent the summer being like “ it’s so quiet in here” bc the rules channel didn’t accept my reaction
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nah fr ive been missing out
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what about a channel for literature/socialism-related info? should that just go in #resources?
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also book-club-ish meetings would be very cool 🤝
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resources woudl be good for that!!
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this is the plan for book club related things it’s in the works currently
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Excellent!! I'd love to help w/ finding resources or anything if y'all need it
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zoe._.noelle 9/16/2023 12:37 PM
Would love to go to this!! So excited!
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been sitting on the phrase "blue collar commie" for a minute and hopefully one of y'all can do something with it lol
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Eden (like the garden) 9/20/2023 8:19 PM
is the book club still a possibility? I got like 5 leftist texts ive been meaning to go through, and would be dope to do it as a book club
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yea, do we have any idea when book club would start?
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i have a google drive that ive already started putting resources in
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Eden (like the garden)
is the book club still a possibility? I got like 5 leftist texts ive been meaning to go through, and would be dope to do it as a book club
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1g-oD-wTyVWAxWX8Af5AJZnxV2cRxZrrC what are the texts you wanna read? I'll put em in here, or i can give access to edit if we want to make a shared drive
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Eden (like the garden) 9/20/2023 9:29 PM
yaaaaas! Im tryna finsh hw and im procrastinating rn but ill def add. I have five in my possession rn, but like a good 30 on my wish list. I also see your a Parenti fan as well. Ngl dudes one of my favs. Um off the top of my head though i did want to get into some of stafford beers stuff on project cybersyn. (https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262525961/cybernetic-revolutionaries/ [ive read some good reviews on this by a secondary author as supposed to beer himself, but beer does have some books talking about it]).
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yall can see im procrastinating. brb
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okie dokie i'll check that out 👍
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I’m working out getting the room reserved tn hopefully! at the earliest it’ll start next week
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10:56 PM
i was thinking either tuesdays at our normal time or Thursdays at 8? which would work better for everyone
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Either one works for me
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Tuesday is better for me
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Dug ☭
i was thinking either tuesdays at our normal time or Thursdays at 8? which would work better for everyone
Eden (like the garden) 9/20/2023 11:52 PM
what is normal time? i dont get out of class until 545 on tuesday and thurs
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would we be down for two days where we do it that way it works for everyone?
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bc i was worried about not everyone being able to come anyways we could just do one lesson or like section of the book a week and have two sessions covering that section? what do we think
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hmm, i feel like doing two times would be kinda funky but tbh that might be the best plan available
12:21 AM
actually yeah, that sounds fine i think. gets complicated depending on how structured we would want to make it, but i don't think that should be too big of a problem
12:22 AM
first of all, I wonder how many people would be attending 🤔
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Eden (like the garden) 9/21/2023 12:27 AM
I'm always down for book club if I can work it into my schedule. Do we have an idea of the first book we are going to read? I would assume some og text might be best.
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Tbh I'm still like only 4 chapters in capital sooooooo. 🙃
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Eden (like the garden)
I'm always down for book club if I can work it into my schedule. Do we have an idea of the first book we are going to read? I would assume some og text might be best.
probs the Principles of Communism by Engels
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Eden (like the garden) 9/21/2023 12:27 AM
That's a short read
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lmao i haven't even thought about attempting capital
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Eden (like the garden)
That's a short read
oh yea i just mean for first meeting or something
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Eden (like the garden) 9/21/2023 12:29 AM
I got to chapt 4 then I was like whelp that's enough econ for me.
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check out the "Understanding Marxism" list i slapped into #resources
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lmao yeah, i heard Value, Price and Profit is like a shortened version of capital (edited)
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blice
lmao yeah, i heard Value, Price and Profit is like a shortened version of capital (edited)
Eden (like the garden) 9/21/2023 12:30 AM
If nothing else it's a great read but I can see that with what little I read of capital.
12:32 AM
@blice if you're a fan of marxist analysis of media I would highly recommend how to read Donald duck imperialist ideology in the Disney comics.
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hmmmm ok lol
12:32 AM
sounds intriguing
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Eden (like the garden) 9/21/2023 12:32 AM
Sorry bit of a book worm and all I read is history or leftist shit 😅
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no same lol
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AS YOU SHOULD
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Eden (like the garden) 9/21/2023 12:33 AM
Gmas.
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yeah i was think principles for those who are not necessarily well versed and we kinda go from there
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Eden (like the garden) 9/21/2023 12:33 AM
Without revolutionary theory there can be no revolutionary movement. V. I. Lenin
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Here's a good website that has some marxist textbooks we could go through. It's just a collection of marx, stalin,lenin, moa etc and others. I think Rosa is in one.
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ok sick
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so sick
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gracias
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Eden (like the garden) 9/21/2023 12:34 AM
Ye. Np. Plus they are all pd. So go ham
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Sorry. Public domain
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Ik we ain't supposed to talk one piece in here
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yes yes i gotchu
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lmao tho i love how no marxist website is ever formatted well (edited)
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12:35 AM
understandable but it's still funny
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Eden (like the garden) 9/21/2023 12:36 AM
Yeah. It's a pain sometimes go9ng through the marxist website. I've tried to read some things here and there off it but Jesus it's bad
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lol, i end up just ctrl+c ctrl+v onto a doc and then doing the formatting myself
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Eden (like the garden) 9/21/2023 12:38 AM
Felt. If nothing else the textbooks are well designed. I printed the first one to give to someone and it's v well formatted.
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textbooks?
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blice
lmao tho i love how no marxist website is ever formatted well (edited)
marxists.org is literally the most finicky website known to man
12:46 AM
you guys should also check out abolitionnotes.org
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12:46 AM
it has a lot of texts formatted to be printed as books
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blice
textbooks?
Eden (like the garden) 9/21/2023 12:51 AM
All books are printed and distributed through our Lulu.com store All proceeds help send free books to comrades around the world and maintain Marxist-Leninist Reading Hub projects
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oh ok ok
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Eden (like the garden) 9/21/2023 12:52 AM
sorry went from talking about marxist.org to this so i seee the confusion. adhd brain and all that
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all good all good
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Eden (like the garden) 9/21/2023 12:53 AM
pulls up marxist websites and sees portraits Imma cry. This is heaven.
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While we’re dropping websites with good leftist literature resources, the anarchist library has more than just anarchist theory. Anyone can upload any book essay or article there, so there should be works from leftists of every genre
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lit i will add that one to the list
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Eden (like the garden) 9/21/2023 12:56 AM
We should really have a dedicate text channel for resources like we have for the rules. Would make it easier for people to look at the information then having to scroll through these messages
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yeahhhh agreed
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im adding everything to my google doc for now
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Eden (like the garden) 9/21/2023 12:58 AM
thats a good idea. i just have an excel spreadshet for most things
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ah lol i am excel illiterate unfortunately
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Eden (like the garden) 9/21/2023 1:00 AM
unfortunately ik office well. I half jokingly not jokingly say ik Visio better than Word
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i’ll definitely be working all this out once i get the privileges issue worked out with our server admin 🫡
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1:04 AM
oh wait i think it’s already fixed lmao
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Admins, can we have tags for each committee so each person interested in them can get notifications?
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“Remember: YDSA is a democratic organization. While the broad tenets of democratic socialism unite our organization, we don’t force our members to accept a particular “party line” or let the finer points of debate divide us. YDSA members run a broad spectrum of beliefs, ranging from libertarian socialist to democratic Marxist. Some members are atheists, while others are religious. More than anything, YDSA is a place where people have a vision for an emancipated society that informs their work. We want all our members to be “leaders”; we encourage all members to read and educate themselves. Conferences are an especially good time for members of different chapters to come together and learn from each other.”
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11:15 PM
this is straight from the YDSA national organizing handbook and I thought it would good to share to everyone 🫡
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WHO GOT THE KROPOTKIN EMOJI
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I NEED THAT
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the conquest of emoji
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Will there be any protests on campus for the genocide happening in Palestinian?
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Mikey BLM
Will there be any protests on campus for the genocide happening in Palestinian?
@Mikey BLM there’s one tomorrow in nashville that you can find in the meeting plans channel!
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Dug ☭
@Mikey BLM there’s one tomorrow in nashville that you can find in the meeting plans channel!
Yo Dutsch, do we know if any of us are going to he there?
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i believe ethan is going!
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idea: instead of having the currently inactive committees, we just form committees as issues/topics come to attention
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i think you make a fair point actually
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oh yeah i've been meaning to mention this for a while. Perhaps Why Socialism? by Albert Einstein could be a good text to have printouts of at tabling. It's broad, it's short, and it's by Einstein lol. https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/ (edited)
Is it advisable for one who is not an expert on economic and social issues to express views on the subject of socialism? I believe for a number of reasons that it is.… Clarity about the aims and…
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