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Skullmaggot 7/12/2022 10:57 PM
@WindandGales Got you a channel!
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Skullmaggot
@WindandGales Got you a channel!
WindandGales 7/12/2022 11:07 PM
Hell yeah thank you so much!
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WindandGales
Hell yeah thank you so much!
Skullmaggot 7/12/2022 11:17 PM
So, it might unfortunately be a few days before I can start finding you people. I'm having both life happening (looking for a new job having graduated college!) as well as setting up a Human Resources Team so that I can assist people faster.
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Skullmaggot 7/12/2022 11:50 PM
@WindandGales Do you need video editors or writing editors or both?
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I'm going to be a bit busy, so would you mind if I just list those who have listed themselves as writers? You may have to reach out yourself.
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-TheAnonymousDew; Fort Lauderdale, Florida, writer, researcher
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@WindandGales Do you need video editors or writing editors or both?
WindandGales 7/12/2022 11:52 PM
No problem at all! I completely understand. Looking for both. Anyone interested on the creative side. I think having lots of folks egar to make videos from a creative stand point should be the first goal and if they also happen to be video editors that's great as well. Absolutely. That works great I'll reach out to them.
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Skullmaggot 7/12/2022 11:55 PM
-DiscleavingNoise; S California, graphic designer, writer, VP of comic artists group
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11:56 PM
As well as @ThoughtsMadeManifest and @joe hill’s revenge
11:57 PM
@WindandGales And, you can always reach out to Marusya and the other graphic designers in the #graphic-designers channel.
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@WindandGales And, you can always reach out to Marusya and the other graphic designers in the #graphic-designers channel.
WindandGales 7/12/2022 11:58 PM
Absolutely will thank you again for setting this up. I will be reaching put to folks in the next day or so.
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Skullmaggot
As well as @ThoughtsMadeManifest and @joe hill’s revenge
joe hill’s revenge 7/13/2022 12:17 AM
Why’d you tag me?
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Skullmaggot 7/13/2022 12:19 AM
@joe hill’s revenge I'm from Human Resources. People who post skills (such as your writerly capabilities) I try to connect to others. I apologize, though, for yanking you here without notice. I'm currently fairly busy, and I skipped my normal introduction stage for expediency's sake in helping @WindandGales find some writers for her project. Are you interested at all in helping her out?
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joe hill’s revenge 7/13/2022 12:20 AM
What exactly is the project, but tentatively yes (edited)
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joe hill’s revenge
What exactly is the project, but tentatively yes (edited)
Skullmaggot 7/13/2022 12:33 AM
There is a message thread in the #illinois channel discussing more of what she wants.
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joe hill’s revenge 7/13/2022 1:23 AM
I’m down to help write stuff
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joe hill’s revenge
I’m down to help write stuff
Skullmaggot 7/13/2022 1:28 AM
@WindandGales A writer for you. ^^^^^^
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I am interested if anyone knows video editing software that doesnt cost so damn much. I am not running linux on anything currently or it wouldnt be an issue
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I am interested if anyone knows video editing software that doesnt cost so damn much. I am not running linux on anything currently or it wouldnt be an issue
RaiseRuntimeError 7/13/2022 11:52 AM
https://www.shotcut.org/ Its free but a little limited but it does do the job
Shotcut is a free, open source, cross-platform video editor for Windows, Mac and Linux
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I dont need too much capability, i juat like to make drone videos
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Thanks!
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joe hill’s revenge 7/13/2022 12:06 PM
What do I have to do?
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WindandGales 7/13/2022 12:08 PM
Hey everyone just as an intro I'm here to start a filmmakers group to help push out campaigns and social content for the Iron Front @Skullmaggot I actually go by he/him just to clarify I am a full time writer and creator and want to get a group together on here to put those skills to use for our cause. As for right now I'm looking for creatives in general to help write and create content that people across these chapters can use. This can be anything from Lincoln project style attack ads for certain politicians/fascist movements. To iron front history, to messaging about how to spot fascist legislation and ideology in various communities etc. I believe one of the best ways to help spread the message of anti fascism is to have concise and effective media for people to share with others. Let's try and get a meeting together soon? Perhaps next week? Happy to have you all here.
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Also editors like the free version of DaVinci resolve are a fantastic way to get a solid editing engine for no cost at all. Takes some time to get fluent on but it's my main driver
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joe hill’s revenge
What do I have to do?
WindandGales 7/13/2022 12:10 PM
See my message below!
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Also editors like the free version of DaVinci resolve are a fantastic way to get a solid editing engine for no cost at all. Takes some time to get fluent on but it's my main driver
RaiseRuntimeError 7/13/2022 12:19 PM
oh damn, didnt know this would run on linux also. I have been using Shotcut because i thought it was the best option
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WindandGales
See my message below!
joe hill’s revenge 7/13/2022 1:14 PM
I’d love to help
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joe hill’s revenge
I’d love to help
WindandGales 7/13/2022 1:20 PM
great! We will be in touch soon.
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Dr_Diskette 7/13/2022 1:22 PM
Hi have you guys figured a time/date for y’all’s meeting?
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CaulPartBallMop 7/13/2022 3:34 PM
Hey I play guitar and have production equipment should that be necessary
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Like I use Ableton and have the capabilities of creating backing tracks for video content and such
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3:38 PM
Check out Spike987 on #SoundCloud https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/hAETB Really old SoundCloud but closest thing to a portfolio I have
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MisterStompy 7/27/2022 1:20 PM
idk if this is the place to put this, but after discovering the prevelance of child sexual abuse in far right groups such as the KKK, the EDL and the Aryan Nations, I've always been interested in somehow helping to make a documentary about the subject titled "A Future for White Children" (a reference to/mockery of the white nationalist 14 words). It would include information about figures such as August Kries and James Mason, but also have sections dedicated to Colonia Dignidad and a Ku Klux Klan run YouTube channel called "The Andrew Show: A Show For White Kids!" that starred Thomas Robb's grandson Andrew Pendergraft, multiple episodes of which had them visiting a farm that served as the location of a "whites only" boy's and girl's club. Multiple children were victimized by the man who ran the farm and was even featured in some of the videos.
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MisterStompy
idk if this is the place to put this, but after discovering the prevelance of child sexual abuse in far right groups such as the KKK, the EDL and the Aryan Nations, I've always been interested in somehow helping to make a documentary about the subject titled "A Future for White Children" (a reference to/mockery of the white nationalist 14 words). It would include information about figures such as August Kries and James Mason, but also have sections dedicated to Colonia Dignidad and a Ku Klux Klan run YouTube channel called "The Andrew Show: A Show For White Kids!" that starred Thomas Robb's grandson Andrew Pendergraft, multiple episodes of which had them visiting a farm that served as the location of a "whites only" boy's and girl's club. Multiple children were victimized by the man who ran the farm and was even featured in some of the videos.
WojtektheBear 7/27/2022 1:42 PM
Right place cool idea honestly
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Fucking based dare I say
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Fucking based dare I say
Doctor Eval 7/28/2022 10:42 AM
Hard agree
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joe hill’s revenge 7/28/2022 1:05 PM
Hey what’s going on with filmmaking
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MisterStompy
idk if this is the place to put this, but after discovering the prevelance of child sexual abuse in far right groups such as the KKK, the EDL and the Aryan Nations, I've always been interested in somehow helping to make a documentary about the subject titled "A Future for White Children" (a reference to/mockery of the white nationalist 14 words). It would include information about figures such as August Kries and James Mason, but also have sections dedicated to Colonia Dignidad and a Ku Klux Klan run YouTube channel called "The Andrew Show: A Show For White Kids!" that starred Thomas Robb's grandson Andrew Pendergraft, multiple episodes of which had them visiting a farm that served as the location of a "whites only" boy's and girl's club. Multiple children were victimized by the man who ran the farm and was even featured in some of the videos.
joe hill’s revenge 7/28/2022 1:13 PM
Funny that u mention that, I recently found a YouTube chsbbsl@that did 2 videos on that show: https://youtu.be/tCNtPsXdtYw
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Wtf..
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I...wat.
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I...wat.
joe hill’s revenge 8/9/2022 1:26 AM
No
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 1:51 AM
@TheAnonymousDew @MisterStompy @joe hill’s revenge Hi, I'm assembling people here for the moment to discuss any ideas for scripts. I'm waiting to hear back from Wolfie for video editing, and I'll try to get some direction from AIF admin Krat for any ideas or rules that would fit in with AIF's image.
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 1:53 AM
My idea is using footage of the Christian nationalists, reminding them that if you aren't a rich hetero white Christian, they have no use for you
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 1:53 AM
Would you know where to get footage?
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Funnily enough as well, the reverse, painting fascists as diverse is grating to them. Are you looking more to attack fascists or draw in minorities?
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 1:55 AM
Marjorie Taylor Greene has leaned fully into nationalism: “Nationalism is a good thing.” “We should be proud of an America First nationalism.” “Christian nationalism” is not “something to be scared of.”
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Funnily enough as well, the reverse, painting fascists as diverse is grating to them. Are you looking more to attack fascists or draw in minorities?
TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 1:55 AM
Mix of both
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Also, mockery
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 1:57 AM
I said that I would write copy for these.
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I was thinking more a long the lines of short skits
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 1:58 AM
All I'm saying is mockery is an effective tool
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 1:58 AM
TheAnonymousDew is looking to learn to write copy
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 1:58 AM
I am also hoping to learn lol
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I know how to write, but idk the formalities of the specific medium
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 1:59 AM
I think we're just bouncing ideas while we wait for Krat and Wolfie. It might actually be a couple days, unfortunately.
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:00 AM
I have some ideas for videos, mostly like I said shorter skit type videos.
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I think another good idea would be to take older antifascist punk songs from the 70s and 80s and put them over contemporary images
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:01 AM
What sort of skit?
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:01 AM
Well, its kinda brainstormy but stuff like what life would be like if the enemy won
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All I'm saying is mockery is an effective tool
Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:01 AM
Oh, I'd love to do nothing but mock these assholes.
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gruesome
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:02 AM
and showing how you can get involved
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Or honestly, maybe 5-10 second clips that are based on existing flyers
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:03 AM
Yeah...I mean we're living through it. Anti-choice, trying to knock down separation of church and state...
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...Hmm, we could use some animators!
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:03 AM
Here's something I penned
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:03 AM
You could take something like this, animate it and add some details, and set it to music for example
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:03 AM
Evil lurks in America, it may wrap itself in flags and religious symbols. Claiming to bring back a golden age that never was. Or to bring back morality and "goodness". Claiming they can make America great again. In reality, it is a mere facade, an illusion to dupe the gullible and misinformed into supporting their vile ideology. None of what they are spewing has ever been that, nor does it have any claim to the moral virtues theys spew. No, these people are not righteous by any creed. They are delusional idiots who want power above all else. Power to enslave or murder anybody who doesn't look like them or think like them. It doesn't matter to them if you may agree with their values or not, at the end of the day, if you are not like them.. They will cast you aside and betray you once you are no longer useful to them.
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So?
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Evil lurks in America, it may wrap itself in flags and religious symbols. Claiming to bring back a golden age that never was. Or to bring back morality and "goodness". Claiming they can make America great again. In reality, it is a mere facade, an illusion to dupe the gullible and misinformed into supporting their vile ideology. None of what they are spewing has ever been that, nor does it have any claim to the moral virtues theys spew. No, these people are not righteous by any creed. They are delusional idiots who want power above all else. Power to enslave or murder anybody who doesn't look like them or think like them. It doesn't matter to them if you may agree with their values or not, at the end of the day, if you are not like them.. They will cast you aside and betray you once you are no longer useful to them.
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:04 AM
its a good first draft
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:04 AM
Any advice on how to fix it?
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:04 AM
Have people researched propaganda techniques? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_techniques
A number of propaganda techniques based on social psychological research are used to generate propaganda. Many of these same techniques can be classified as logical fallacies, since propagandists use arguments that, while sometimes convincing, are not necessarily valid. Propaganda techniques emerge from abusive power and control tactics.
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Have people researched propaganda techniques? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_techniques
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:05 AM
Not really
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:05 AM
Any tips on how to improve my draft?
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TheAnonymousDew
Any tips on how to improve my draft?
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:05 AM
I mean, if you want I can try redrafting it right now
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:05 AM
Sure..
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:05 AM
Maybe figure out your definite audience? Are you speaking to fascists, non-fascists, or both?
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At the end of the day, I'd rather be deconverting fascists and get them exposed to a wider world.
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:06 AM
Problem is many are too far gone
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:06 AM
yeah
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:07 AM
I'm focusing on cutting off their recruiting pipeline
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:07 AM
Yeah, I'd like to figure out where they are all getting sucked in. Posters, rabbit-holes... (edited)
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:07 AM
Mentioning how nobody is safe under fascism, even if you look and think like them, they'll inevitably turn on you
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:08 AM
hmmmmmm
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:08 AM
The Night of the Long Knives is proof of this
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:08 AM
Good point
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Maybe show how Republicans turn on one another? There's plenty of examples for that.
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:08 AM
YES
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:08 AM
Evil lurks in America, wrapping itself in the flag and holding the cross. Claiming to bring back a golden age that never was. Or to bring back morality and "goodness". Claiming it can make America great again. But they have much darker plans. They want power above all else. Power to enslave or murder anybody who doesn't look like them or think like them. We have seen what happens when these people win, and we choose not to allow this to happen here. But if good people don't come together soon to stand up for what is right, we will go silently into the night of fascism (edited)
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joe hill’s revenge
Evil lurks in America, wrapping itself in the flag and holding the cross. Claiming to bring back a golden age that never was. Or to bring back morality and "goodness". Claiming it can make America great again. But they have much darker plans. They want power above all else. Power to enslave or murder anybody who doesn't look like them or think like them. We have seen what happens when these people win, and we choose not to allow this to happen here. But if good people don't come together soon to stand up for what is right, we will go silently into the night of fascism (edited)
TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:08 AM
I love it (edited)
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:09 AM
We could also appeal to fascists and have them find an alternate sense of self-worth/identity.
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MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:09 AM
I've wanted to see something similar to the "why we fight" and "know your enemy" serials that came out in WW2 about Germany Japan and Italy respectively, but instead one about Theocrats, Fascists and Tankies (edited)
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:09 AM
thx
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MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:09 AM
Explaining what Theocracy is and the freedoms it would take away for instance
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Skullmaggot
We could also appeal to fascists and have them find an alternate sense of self-worth/identity.
TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:09 AM
Yes.. Remind them that it's not too late for them to turn back
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I've wanted to see something similar to the "why we fight" and "know your enemy" serials that came out in WW2 about Germany Japan and Italy respectively, but instead one about Theocrats, Fascists and Tankies (edited)
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:10 AM
I don't think I'd participate in an anti tankie one
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MisterStompy
Explaining what Theocracy is and the freedoms it would take away for instance
TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:10 AM
And how it caused violence and bloodshed
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Even people who were "Christian" were executed for heresy
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MisterStompy
Explaining what Theocracy is and the freedoms it would take away for instance
Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:10 AM
I don't think it necessarily takes away freedoms that they care about, just as long as it takes away others' freedoms.
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joe hill’s revenge
I don't think I'd participate in an anti tankie one
MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:10 AM
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:11 AM
Oh hey, Stompy, you snuck in there.
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I don't think it necessarily takes away freedoms that they care about, just as long as it takes away others' freedoms.
MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:11 AM
Well under a theocracy a shitload of video games would be banned (edited)
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Maybe figure out your definite audience? Are you speaking to fascists, non-fascists, or both?
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:11 AM
I'd say non fash primarily
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MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:12 AM
Fascists and theocrats recruit through gaming and anime circles and shit like that, but they don't mention that should the church take control of the country you won't be seeing any of that degenerate and sinful art
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Fascists and theocrats recruit through gaming and anime circles and shit like that, but they don't mention that should the church take control of the country you won't be seeing any of that degenerate and sinful art
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:12 AM
Thats a good point
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:12 AM
And even pornography, since many fascists are incels and love that
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:12 AM
Another good thing to talk about would be the history of how fascists have built an online army
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:13 AM
That'd be banned too
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:13 AM
that is a very in depth topic
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joe hill’s revenge
Another good thing to talk about would be the history of how fascists have built an online army
MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:13 AM
they've been doing it since the 90's
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Well under a theocracy a shitload of video games would be banned (edited)
Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:13 AM
Haha, I'd love video games to be the thing that gets people to leave fascism. Maybe there's other things they value more than fascism that we can show are at risk?
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MisterStompy
they've been doing it since the 90's
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:13 AM
They kinda pioneered online political activism
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tbh
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:13 AM
How they left Germany in ruins and divided for 50 years
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Familes torn apart (edited)
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:13 AM
The Nazis will steal your video games!
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The Nazis will steal your video games!
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:13 AM
thats a good one!
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MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:14 AM
There's a book called "Duke Nukem's Guide To The Web" or something like that and it specifically mentions that Duke Nukem hates seeing Nazis in Usenet groups. Came out in 1998 iirc
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There's a book called "Duke Nukem's Guide To The Web" or something like that and it specifically mentions that Duke Nukem hates seeing Nazis in Usenet groups. Came out in 1998 iirc
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:14 AM
lol
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:14 AM
Another idea
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This is your country before fascism
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:14 AM
the thing is, any online groups that gets large enough; if there isn't really good moderation will eventually get taken over by fascists
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:14 AM
This is your country AFTER fascism (edited)
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:15 AM
A short history lesson would be good too.
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:15 AM
That was Berlin
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A short history lesson would be good too.
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:15 AM
yea
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there's so much history content to be mined tbh
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MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:16 AM
I remember a while back I found a bunch of images of SS guards that got lynched by prisoners during the Dachau liberation and I added the caption "This can be YOU with fascism" but I didn't post them anywhere because they were pretty graphic, now with everybody desensitized from Ukraine war footage I don't see an issue, wish I still saved them
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:16 AM
Especially the downfall of Nazism
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:16 AM
italy too
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:16 AM
How Nazism left Germany broken and divided
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:16 AM
obviously the history of classical fascism; but there is also more recent history (how people fought nazis in the punk scene)
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MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:16 AM
There was one photo that was really messed up, some guy who was stripped, stabbed and beaten a bunch of times and left on barbed wire with a swastika painted on his ass
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:17 AM
I'm trying to remind them how self-destructive fascism is
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MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:17 AM
He was apparently the guy who sicced dogs on people
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:17 AM
And how it's an ideology that will NEVER be sustainable
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:17 AM
Its really about basic civics stuff
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:17 AM
do we have before and after of the civil war for the confederacy?
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:17 AM
How their quest to build a "White utopia" is forever doomed to fail
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I'm trying to remind them how self-destructive fascism is
MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:17 AM
There's a scene in American History X where the counselor guy asks the main character "Has anything gotten better since you started doing this?" and he just starts crying
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:18 AM
I mean, the simplest thing we can do is just give our side ammunition in the meme war
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do we have before and after of the civil war for the confederacy?
TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:18 AM
The burning of Atlanta would be excellent (edited)
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MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:19 AM
Recently there was a guy that got kicked out of Patriot Front because he watched interracial porn involving an Asian woman, I imagine that can be brought up somehow mainly because it's hilarious
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:19 AM
Yeah I love it
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MisterStompy
Recently there was a guy that got kicked out of Patriot Front because he watched interracial porn involving an Asian woman, I imagine that can be brought up somehow mainly because it's hilarious
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:19 AM
anything like that would be great
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I think we should kinda divide between serious stuff and meme stuff
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:19 AM
I was hoping to draw in a ton of people to make memes next
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MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:19 AM
we should also think about black propaganda, if you guys know what that is
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we should also think about black propaganda, if you guys know what that is
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:20 AM
I just realized its 2:20 AM
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MisterStompy
Recently there was a guy that got kicked out of Patriot Front because he watched interracial porn involving an Asian woman, I imagine that can be brought up somehow mainly because it's hilarious
Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:20 AM
Oh, who have they kicked out? Can we get testimonials of the stupidity?
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:20 AM
We should also for pro AIF propaganda, adopt Battle Cry of Freedom as a song
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"Democracy forever, hoorah, hoorah!"
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Skullmaggot
Oh, who have they kicked out? Can we get testimonials of the stupidity?
MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:21 AM
didn't catch the name but I saw it mentioned on both Twitter and here
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TheAnonymousDew
We should also for pro AIF propaganda, adopt Battle Cry of Freedom as a song
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:21 AM
I really want to make more drill remixes of union songs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNLpLq2Kluc
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MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:21 AM
anyway black propaganda is material that's meant to look like the enemy made it, but it makes the enemy look bad
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joe hill’s revenge
I just realized its 2:20 AM
Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:21 AM
Get to bed!
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:22 AM
I'm in a The Boys meme group thats over run with fash
2:22 AM
They have a lot of good templates
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:22 AM
We should adopt Tear The Fascists down too
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MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:22 AM
in ww2 both sides would drop fake newspapers behind enemy lines with articles talking about how everyone's wives were banging random dudes on the homefront, that's a form of black propaganda
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:22 AM
YES I love it
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Skullmaggot
Get to bed!
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:22 AM
Yea
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:22 AM
Better yet, mock them
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:22 AM
but I don't want to miss the convo
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:22 AM
As the incel bastards they really are
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:23 AM
The only way they can ever get women to be with them is to force them to be with them. Most rational women would stay the hell away from them
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joe hill’s revenge
but I don't want to miss the convo
Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:23 AM
You have internet addiction and need to stop going down this rabbit hole or else you'll turn fascist! Fascism, it's a hell of a drug!
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:24 AM
theres a lot of great songs
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MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:24 AM
speaking of union dixie we also need to do parody songs, this one is one of my favorites, it's originally a Skrewdriver song called "White Power" https://youtu.be/4zBTsebQ7ZA
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:24 AM
Many in the alt-right are incels
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I say we use that against them
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:25 AM
I need to get to bed soon, too.
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joe hill’s revenge
I'm in a The Boys meme group thats over run with fash
ugh Sounds about right. I may hate the boys something fierce, but even I don't think they deserve fash to co-op their shit
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:25 AM
To mock them by saying no woman would EVER want to be near then willingly
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HOI4 is worse
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And so is 40K
2:26 AM
Many of them are too dumb to realize the Imperium of Man was supposed to be a PARODY of fascist regimes
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Aces high
ugh Sounds about right. I may hate the boys something fierce, but even I don't think they deserve fash to co-op their shit
Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:26 AM
Hi! We're talking about video propaganda ideas.
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Skullmaggot
Hi! We're talking about video propaganda ideas.
MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:26 AM
I had an idea a long time ago for an Open Beats Of Rage side scrolling beat em up where you go around kicking the shit out of Nazis and Klansmen
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:27 AM
"The ONLY time an American should EVER have a swastika flag is if they captured it in battle"
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:27 AM
Like an animation or game?
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Aces high
ugh Sounds about right. I may hate the boys something fierce, but even I don't think they deserve fash to co-op their shit
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:27 AM
they have a lot of videos
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Skullmaggot
Like an animation or game?
MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:27 AM
Beats of Rage is a game engine made to mimic the Streets of Rage games
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:27 AM
Nazi flags are only good as war trophies or as toilet paper
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or as kindling for marshmellows
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:27 AM
Another idea is "How to use a Nazi flag"
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A comedy sketch
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Like using it as a dish rag
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A mop
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Toilet paper
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MisterStompy
Beats of Rage is a game engine made to mimic the Streets of Rage games
Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:28 AM
Do you know how to use it?
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:28 AM
and most importantly as kindling
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TheAnonymousDew
Another idea is "How to use a Nazi flag"
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:28 AM
I don't think we should use a swazi, they don't anymore. Using the black sun would be more contemporary
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:28 AM
Okay, better idea
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Still, is the idea good?
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Skullmaggot
Do you know how to use it?
MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:29 AM
I knew a guy who did but I lost contact with him, unfortunately
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:29 AM
How about refusing to use it even as toilet paper?
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:29 AM
Honestly, I think in general we should drop the swastika except historically and replace it with the black sun rune when refering to contemporary nazis
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:29 AM
Fair enough
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:29 AM
ah ok
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:29 AM
And being Jewish, I know what fascism can do and the horrors it can bring
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They murdered 6 million of my people, tried to wipe us all out. I will NEVER EVER forget
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MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:30 AM
We need to do something like this. Remake the missions from Soldier Of Fortune where you go around blowing Nazi Skinheads' arms off. https://youtu.be/c3vdYAVcYH8?t=492
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:31 AM
I have an idea for a propaganda game
2:31 AM
An FBI agent who is Jewish woman hunting down and skinheads. They hate both Jews and women, it would really piss them off
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:31 AM
I'd probably advise to stick to something less directly violent for now. More defense rather than offense, I would hope.
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TheAnonymousDew
An FBI agent who is Jewish woman hunting down and skinheads. They hate both Jews and women, it would really piss them off
MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:32 AM
that was gonna be a Twilight Zone movie kind of
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That one Twilight Zone episode where the guy gets visited by the Ghost of Hitler was gonna be turned into a full length movie with that plot
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:34 AM
ghost of hitler doesn't scare fascists :/
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What does fascism do to your body?
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Skullmaggot
ghost of hitler doesn't scare fascists :/
MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:34 AM
no it was a neo nazi who was getting advice from hitler's ghost
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:35 AM
Thinking of another idea for something to write
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:37 AM
If you do do violence, can it be done comically, like the Black Knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail?
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If you do do violence, can it be done comically, like the Black Knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail?
MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:38 AM
I mean violence isn't comical. What we need to understand is that our enemies are not really all that prepared for the violence they seek when it comes back to them, and they need to learn that
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:38 AM
Point is to mock them
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MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:39 AM
Remember on January 6th when Ashli Babbitt got shot? There is no reason that her getting shot would have stopped that mob. If it was radical anarchists who got that far it would have just pissed them off, but those right wingers were fucking terrified because they realized that they could be hurt too
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:39 AM
They take themselves extremely seriously, mockery is as effective as shooting them as far as fighting back
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:39 AM
They're are many different propaganda techniques. Mockery is just one of them. At the base, it's an argument against fascism and for democracy.
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TheAnonymousDew
They take themselves extremely seriously, mockery is as effective as shooting them as far as fighting back
Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:40 AM
True, fascists can't deal with mean humor.
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:40 AM
Remember, as long as one person stands against them, they will NEVER be able to claim victory
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MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:40 AM
I'm not saying go out and hurt them, I'm saying remind them that they can be hurt, like that guy who tried to shoot up the FBI office
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:40 AM
But, we need to find their insecurities 🙂
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Skullmaggot
But, we need to find their insecurities 🙂
MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:40 AM
well most of them have hidden fetishes
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:40 AM
things that'll demoralize
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MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:41 AM
lot of them are cucks, that's why the insult got so big, nobody even fucking knew what a cuck was beforehand
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:41 AM
A have a sense that they are becoming brazen. I don't exactly know what is going to agitate them.
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:41 AM
Demoralizing them is important yeah
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:42 AM
Other than not being able to agitate the left.
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:42 AM
A lot of them are incels
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Use that against them
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Skullmaggot
True, fascists can't deal with mean humor.
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:42 AM
do you think this has legs?
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:42 AM
Fascist speed dating?
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:42 AM
Yeah
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:42 AM
I made it in paint
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MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:43 AM
I mean all we have to do is AI generate some images of an attractive woman and we can get so much out of these people
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:43 AM
I also think in addition to attacking them, we should glorify ourselves too
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PR helps
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TheAnonymousDew
I also think in addition to attacking them, we should glorify ourselves too
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:43 AM
lol
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MisterStompy
I mean all we have to do is AI generate some images of an attractive woman and we can get so much out of these people
Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:43 AM
Could you explain?
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MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:43 AM
catfishing Nazis is really easy
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:43 AM
oh
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:43 AM
Hey, you need to win over a large community too
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Good and evil stories work
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Fascists use it all the time
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TheAnonymousDew
Hey, you need to win over a large community too
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:44 AM
What about a webcomic
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MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:44 AM
Pretend to be a hot chick and be like "oh wow you want to save the white race, me too! give me your address and pictures of you doing really goofy shit naked" and there we go
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:44 AM
there are artists on here and graphic designers
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MisterStompy
Pretend to be a hot chick and be like "oh wow you want to save the white race, me too! give me your address and pictures of you doing really goofy shit naked" and there we go
TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:44 AM
And dox the fuck out of them?
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TheAnonymousDew
And dox the fuck out of them?
MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:44 AM
yeah but don't just post it on Twitter immediately, blackmail them into acting as moles
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:45 AM
How delightfully treacherous, I love it
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:45 AM
Maybe just show fascists being susceptible to catfishing?
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:45 AM
Catfish them with deep fake technology too
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MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:45 AM
get videos of them beating off and saying "mommy milkers" threaten to release it to all their Nazi buddies unless they give us more info (edited)
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:45 AM
As in a deep fake of a hot woman
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Yeah..
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deepfake videos anyone?
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MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:46 AM
it's very easy to do with them because they're so sexually repressed because sex is "degeneracy", you think you could blackmail a leftist or a liberal with something like that? none of us care
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:46 AM
By the way, we do have minors on the Discord. Please consider this a public space.
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:46 AM
Fair
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MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:46 AM
well I mean don't show them the screenshots
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:46 AM
Yeah or edit out the NSFW stuff
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MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:47 AM
Also shit, speaking of minors, pretend to be minors and then send the info to cops and state police when we post the dox
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:47 AM
Yes
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:47 AM
Speaking of deepfakes and black propaganda, what about just making stuff that has people like Trump and Tucker saying openly racist shit
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MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:47 AM
Pretend to be a 14 year old white girl worried about the future of the race, these people are obsessed with "fertile" youth
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joe hill’s revenge
Speaking of deepfakes and black propaganda, what about just making stuff that has people like Trump and Tucker saying openly racist shit
TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:47 AM
That may encourage them
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And may backfire
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TheAnonymousDew
That may encourage them
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:47 AM
Yea, it would have to be done very carefully
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joe hill’s revenge
Speaking of deepfakes and black propaganda, what about just making stuff that has people like Trump and Tucker saying openly racist shit
MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:47 AM
It's not a good idea to do that becuase those people are millionaires who could sue us lmao
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:47 AM
...And get texts back? ew
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MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:47 AM
It's better to make fake people instead
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:47 AM
but, if you could get them to denounce those views
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:48 AM
I mean we may not have to worry about Trump soon anyway
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But focus on DeSantis
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Skullmaggot
...And get texts back? ew
MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:48 AM
I mean you kinda have to in order to get them convicted for attempted solicitation of a minor
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:48 AM
If you had a way to leak it and not be identified
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:48 AM
How though?
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:48 AM
Its just an idea
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TheAnonymousDew
But focus on DeSantis
MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:49 AM
we need to convince people that DeSantis okayed the raid on Mar A Lago
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:49 AM
Also, I had an idea of a video of AIF members marching with the theme song from Metal Gear Solid Peacewalker playing
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:49 AM
The goal would be to force them to renounce those views, or force them to embrace them; hopefully alienating people or dividing them from the base
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:49 AM
Yeah I love it
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MisterStompy
we need to convince people that DeSantis okayed the raid on Mar A Lago
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:49 AM
thats a good one
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:49 AM
As a Floridian, yes please
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We could make a fake Tweet and post it
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joe hill’s revenge
The goal would be to force them to renounce those views, or force them to embrace them; hopefully alienating people or dividing them from the base
Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:49 AM
What exactly does divide their base?
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MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:50 AM
I mean for all we know DeSantis did do it. These people have no fucking honor
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:50 AM
I think that at a certain point, discussions like this should be taken off discord
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TheAnonymousDew
We could make a fake Tweet and post it
MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:50 AM
No we gotta do more than that
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MisterStompy
I mean for all we know DeSantis did do it. These people have no fucking honor
TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:50 AM
Which is true of all fascists
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Remember, Hitler purged Röhm
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Skullmaggot
What exactly does divide their base?
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:50 AM
If they renounce the racism it forces the fash away
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joe hill’s revenge
I think that at a certain point, discussions like this should be taken off discord
MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:50 AM
I only say this becuase these people are incompetent and I'm not worrieed about them hurting anyone but themselves
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:50 AM
if they embrace it, it drives the ones who are uncomfortable away
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:50 AM
And reduces their power, yeah
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Skullmaggot
What exactly does divide their base?
MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:50 AM
Not being racist enough, exposure of fetishes, stuff likee that
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:50 AM
Are fascists in debt?
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MisterStompy
I only say this becuase these people are incompetent and I'm not worrieed about them hurting anyone but themselves
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:51 AM
But, you could be charged with encouraging terrorism
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joe hill’s revenge
But, you could be charged with encouraging terrorism
MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:51 AM
eh good point
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:51 AM
Yeah, not worth it
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Do whatever legal recourse we can first
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:51 AM
I don't think its a bad idea...
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MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:51 AM
Anyway let's stop discussing that
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Right now we need to work on creating TruthSocial and Twitter accounts getting people to talk about how DeSantis threw Trump under the bus
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:51 AM
Yep, didn't realize this'd get so derailed!
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:52 AM
Yeah I love it
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:52 AM
So, psyops?
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MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:52 AM
Trump did talk shit about DeSantis recently
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:52 AM
Back to AIF propganda videos, I have an idea
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Skullmaggot
Yep, didn't realize this'd get so derailed!
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:52 AM
I mean, its such a huge area; just any kind of propaganda movie
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TheAnonymousDew
Back to AIF propganda videos, I have an idea
Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:52 AM
Okay, shoot
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:52 AM
we want is on the table, as long as we have the skill to make it
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:52 AM
Footage of fascists marching with comedic music as audio
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Footage of fascists marching with comedic music as audio
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:52 AM
Yea, and footage of them being beaten
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set to heroic music
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TheAnonymousDew
Footage of fascists marching with comedic music as audio
MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:53 AM
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:54 AM
We could start our own music genre lol
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:54 AM
We do have musicians if you need music made.
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:54 AM
Yeah. I like it
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:55 AM
But, just putting music over video seems a little simple. What about making fascists part of a sitcom with a gag reel?
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:55 AM
Or better yet, another sketch comedy depicting a fascist or alt right member as an incomptent buffoon
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Skullmaggot
But, just putting music over video seems a little simple. What about making fascists part of a sitcom with a gag reel?
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:55 AM
nice
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:56 AM
And sound effects
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Or better yet, another sketch comedy depicting a fascist or alt right member as an incomptent buffoon
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:56 AM
Theres so much existing content for that
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lol
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:56 AM
Like he gets creepy with a woman, who promptly knocks him out with a single slap
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Trying to erect a banner with a black sun flag, only for it to keep falling down
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joe hill’s revenge
Theres so much existing content for that
TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:57 AM
Hey it works
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TheAnonymousDew
Hey it works
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:57 AM
A lot of fascist propaganda can be reused
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just slightly tweaked
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:57 AM
Hmm, but a buffoon doesn't know they're a buffoon
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:58 AM
Another idea as he's marching, his pants fall down revealing Anime boxers
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Hmm, but a buffoon doesn't know they're a buffoon
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:58 AM
I mean, I can imagine an arc for the guy: He starts off online, joints PF and gets arrested in Idaho
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:58 AM
Do we have videos of fascists walking into poles?
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:58 AM
thats like 20 episodes right there
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:58 AM
Yeah
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And before he gets arrested, gets beaten up by AIF members
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:59 AM
Voiceover with goofy voices?
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:59 AM
Yeah
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:59 AM
Looney tunes
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Looney tunes
MisterStompy 8/13/2022 2:59 AM
"Hitler is a stinker?!"
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:59 AM
I love the bit of him marching only for his pants to fall down revealing anime boxers
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 2:59 AM
Wabbit season
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 2:59 AM
What about creating a parody fascist org to stand in for real ones
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?
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 2:59 AM
Yes..
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The White Society of America?
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 3:00 AM
Parody names or a real one to attract real people?
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 3:00 AM
Whites Against Weed
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 3:00 AM
Or the Aryan Christian Society
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 3:00 AM
Aryans Against Gaming and Degeneracy
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 3:00 AM
Yes
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 3:00 AM
It's a lot of work to be an org, let alone a fake one
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3 o'clock
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 3:00 AM
I don't think it should actually exist, just create a few template flyers that we can use
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 3:00 AM
Which would make the scene of his pants falling down to reveal anime boxers would be hilarious
3:01 AM
Exposing him as a total hypocrite
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 3:01 AM
and a logo
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 3:01 AM
Oh and a scene at home with him and a Hatsune Miku dakimura
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Oh and a scene at home with him and a Hatsune Miku dakimura
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 3:01 AM
your losing me tbh
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joe hill’s revenge
your losing me tbh
TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 3:02 AM
A lot of alt righters seem to be anime fans
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 3:02 AM
rainbow boxers
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TheAnonymousDew
A lot of alt righters seem to be anime fans
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 3:02 AM
that would be funny
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 3:02 AM
Trump hugging an anime pillow
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 3:02 AM
And anime can get kind of... creepy as far as sexualization of young girls (edited)
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Notice the anime PFP
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 3:04 AM
I don't suppose you all saw the porn edit of MTG jail cell prop show?
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 3:04 AM
LOL
3:04 AM
And a dakiamura is a body pillow
3:05 AM
Some of which can get a bit NSFW
3:05 AM
Now you see why the anime boxers scene would work?
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 3:05 AM
I want to clarify what I meant by a fake org, I don't mean a group to catfish people; that would be a lot of work. I just mean that fash groups all have a unique style in their posters, all patriot front art looks the same. So we could develop a fash "group" with its own color scheme, a logo and a few common tropes/images. Then if you want to make a point about how fascists are stupid, you can use that groups identity to say it. The groups entire design should be obviously a joke from a mile away, make the logo a fasce with dildos
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and give it a hilariously stupid name
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 3:05 AM
NADS
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 3:05 AM
Is it an emasculation angle or hypocrisy angle?
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 3:06 AM
Mix of both
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 3:06 AM
Fake tags?
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 3:06 AM
Nationalists Against Degenerate Sexuality
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What do you think?
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 3:06 AM
GONADS
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 3:06 AM
GONADS? I love it
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 3:06 AM
DINGUS
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Well under a theocracy a shitload of video games would be banned (edited)
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 3:06 AM
just add a game console
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Nationalists Against Degenerate Sexuality
joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 3:07 AM
thats a good one
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 3:07 AM
maybe r/ihadastroke?
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Paatrifont
3:08 AM
Or like those fonts where all the letters look too much the same to be readable?
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 3:08 AM
And when John Doe (I'll just call him that), tries to hit on an actual attractive woman with the "rebuild the white race" nonsense, she gets creeped out
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He tries to get a little more forceful and the woman knocks him out with one single hard slap
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The character is supposed to be creepy towards women
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 3:11 AM
White couple says "Let's rebuild the white race." Baby comes out black.
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I think that's all the racism I have for the night. Need to get to sleep!
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TheAnonymousDew 8/13/2022 3:12 AM
Night
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 3:12 AM
night
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MisterStompy 8/13/2022 3:12 AM
Goodnight
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 3:22 AM
Night
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joe hill’s revenge 8/13/2022 10:31 PM
So, is the next step to organize a film making meeting?
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Schedule a time for VC?
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Skullmaggot 8/14/2022 12:00 AM
People can hop into the Meeting Room or Lounge at any time!
12:04 AM
Krat says: “Well off the top of my head maybe something involving audio clips from speeches given by famous American political figures, illustrating our egalitarian type worldview - intercut with footage from protests and stuff both from the past and modern day. I suppose avoid anything that comes across as too nationalist.”
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Skullmaggot 8/14/2022 12:11 AM
I’ll be back in twenty or so minutes.
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Skullmaggot 8/14/2022 12:31 AM
back
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C.J.
Schedule a time for VC?
joe hill’s revenge 8/14/2022 12:48 AM
Yea
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Skullmaggot
back
joe hill’s revenge 8/14/2022 1:03 AM
Still around
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Skullmaggot 8/14/2022 1:11 AM
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Hey y'all just wanted to pop in and say hi, Skullmaggot told me about this , unfortunately I don't have any concrete ideas for videos to make right now but we should totally bring storm at some point in the near future
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Skullmaggot 8/14/2022 1:13 AM
Brainstormed a bit yesterday night about mockery techniques.
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joe hill’s revenge
Still around
Skullmaggot 8/14/2022 1:13 AM
Poke
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Poke
joe hill’s revenge 8/14/2022 1:13 AM
Hi
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Skullmaggot 8/14/2022 1:13 AM
lol
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joe hill’s revenge 8/14/2022 1:13 AM
Lol
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Skullmaggot 8/14/2022 1:14 AM
@Kraite Did you want to schedule a brainstorming session? That way we have a coordinated time.
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When's good for people? @MisterStompy @TheAnonymousDew
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When's good for people? @MisterStompy @TheAnonymousDew
joe hill’s revenge 8/14/2022 1:16 AM
I’ll have a better idea of when I’m free tomorrow
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But I’m free most late nights
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Skullmaggot 8/14/2022 1:17 AM
Same, I'm typically free after 7 PM PST/10 PM EST.
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You're up late though, Where.
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@Kraite Did you want to schedule a brainstorming session? That way we have a coordinated time.
I wont be ablt to until im back stateside I think
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Skullmaggot 8/14/2022 1:23 AM
Okay, enjoy your rest!
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When's good for people? @MisterStompy @TheAnonymousDew
MisterStompy 8/14/2022 1:24 AM
I've got stuff this weekend, I'll be free most of next week
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Skullmaggot 8/14/2022 1:26 AM
Krat's vacationing, so maybe a scheduled session is delayed, but we may be able to brainstorm some pro-AIF stuff when people are around in chat. The Meeting Room and Lounge are always open if you want to hop in. Just let me know, and I'll see if I can get in too.
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You're up late though, Where.
joe hill’s revenge 8/14/2022 2:11 AM
I’m watching family guy
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Skullmaggot 8/14/2022 2:15 AM
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IvanAlbright 9/30/2022 12:01 PM
What are the ideas floating around here for video/podcasting?
12:01 PM
I have some ideas to bring to the table but curious if there is any ideas already in the works
12:03 PM
My background is as a feature documentary filmmaker. But unless some crazy shit hits the streets or if there is a really compelling story we can tell around our Iron Front movement. I imagine that a YouTube channel/podcast that puts out regular content is probably most effective. Not to mention that making a film requires an incredible amount of time, energy, resources, to pull off successfull.
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*successfully
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We need short documentary pieces 5-10 minutes long. One idea each.
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IvanAlbright 10/4/2022 10:37 PM
This is a good idea. Have any been made yet? If not, what would an example piece be about? Any ideas for potential subjects/stories? (edited)
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This is a good idea. Have any been made yet? If not, what would an example piece be about? Any ideas for potential subjects/stories? (edited)
joe hill’s revenge 10/4/2022 10:52 PM
I think the first one would be a call@to action
10:52 PM
But it shouldn’t come until@we have some irl actions to show
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IvanAlbright 10/4/2022 11:51 PM
Yeah, maybe a call to action by example.
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AarborneDivision 10/5/2022 1:23 PM
Agreed, just showing people there is a degree of organized resistance to militant fascism will go a long way. When you say documentary pieces, are you thinking voice over, interview, short instagram story pieces? In the coming weeks I'll have some free time and can throw together some prototypes
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joe hill’s revenge 10/5/2022 9:27 PM
At first just videos with music
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IvanAlbright
This is a good idea. Have any been made yet? If not, what would an example piece be about? Any ideas for potential subjects/stories? (edited)
WojtektheBear 10/5/2022 9:36 PM
I’d also love to do pieces on local fascists that people might not be aware of
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I’d also love to do pieces on local fascists that people might not be aware of
IvanAlbright 10/6/2022 9:51 AM
That’s a cool idea. Would require a lot of investigation work. Also, if you’re out there doxxing, need to be prepared to be doxxed yourself.
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That’s a cool idea. Would require a lot of investigation work. Also, if you’re out there doxxing, need to be prepared to be doxxed yourself.
WojtektheBear 10/6/2022 9:54 AM
You mean we need to be prepared to protect ourselves against doxxing.
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But I think the call action/pointing and screaming at the problem is what needs to happen first.
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IvanAlbright 10/6/2022 9:59 AM
Well, essentially your idea is to make a short video doxxing or exposing who the local fascists are in your area, right? (edited)
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I just think that they may try to turn that around back on you
10:00 AM
Personally, I'm not sure I'm afraid of being doxxed. I think our cause is not extreme in any way but is in fact a mainstream idea.
10:01 AM
Because I have so much documentary experience, I am definitely not afraid to film people in public. It is in fact our constitutional right (states vary, in terms of recording audio of people talking)
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Personally, I'm not sure I'm afraid of being doxxed. I think our cause is not extreme in any way but is in fact a mainstream idea.
WojtektheBear 10/6/2022 10:13 AM
That’s not why people would be concerned about being doxxed. Some people have jobs, life situations where that would or could put them at risk.
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IvanAlbright 10/6/2022 10:20 AM
That's true
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But my point holds. I think if we are making doxxing videos, need to be prepared for the tables to be turned
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I do think knowing who the local fascists are is incredibly useful and important info
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But my point holds. I think if we are making doxxing videos, need to be prepared for the tables to be turned
WojtektheBear 10/6/2022 11:32 AM
Sure, but again there are ways of minimizing that risk. Just accepting it is taking for granted other people’s risk threshold
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You guys should make "Iron Front: The Movie"! A biography of the formation of the original group
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IvanAlbright 10/12/2022 9:54 AM
Yeah that would be cool. Would need to find some archival footage from the Weimar Republic. Most everyone from then is probably dead. So first hand interviews about the movement wouldn't work. I guess you would have to rely on history scholars to comment on it.
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Good thing about docs is that you never pay interview subjects.
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In fact, some people consider it actually lacking integrity or bad practice for docs because it may bias the interview
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In other words, it's not considered exploitative (like for instance, not paying crew)
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IvanAlbright 10/12/2022 10:04 AM
Even better. A doc that weaves together the origins of the Iron Front from the Weimar Republic, with our contemporary movement, in a way that parallels our fight (edited)
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Against authoritarianism
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LessthanLoneWolf 10/13/2022 12:19 AM
I love Sabaton
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IvanAlbright 10/13/2022 12:27 PM
Not anti-fash, in the traditional sense, but for some reason this old ballad gets me fired up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XKMwWZVpPE
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12:28 PM
I think it would be dope to do a remake of that song with lyrics more relevant today
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AarborneDivision 10/13/2022 1:29 PM
Dropkick Murphys made a cover of it with a couple updated lines, though they did keep the original chorus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKWfnO7fhQM&ab_channel=YaBasta1936
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Dropkick Murphys made a cover of it with a couple updated lines, though they did keep the original chorus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKWfnO7fhQM&ab_channel=YaBasta1936
IvanAlbright 10/13/2022 2:32 PM
Fuck yes, love it!
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Dropkick Murphys made a cover of it with a couple updated lines, though they did keep the original chorus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKWfnO7fhQM&ab_channel=YaBasta1936
IvanAlbright 10/13/2022 2:41 PM
Not to go too far down a tangent, but do you ever listen to the Pogues? Lifelong fan of that band.
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AarborneDivision 10/13/2022 2:44 PM
Absolutely. Great stuff, one of the best
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joe hill’s revenge 10/13/2022 3:04 PM
Early videos can just me new footage over various Antifa songs
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joe hill’s revenge 11/20/2022 12:13 AM
I think our first filmmaking moves, once we have the compactor, should be to do remakes of two ww2/post ww2 films. Education of Death and Don’t be a Sucker. EdDeath is about how Hitler brainwashed Germany youth (it was made by Disney so it ignores hitlers anti Semitic views), and DS is about how Hitler rose to power. Both were USA government sponsored propaganda films, so they had high quality production values
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Don't Be a Sucker went viral semi recently
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Don't Be a Sucker went viral semi recently
joe hill’s revenge 11/20/2022 1:28 AM
Yea, but normies like my little brother will never watch it cause it’s black and white. A remake in color would go twice as viral
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Yeah
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You could always colorize the original
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but a modern remake is an interesting idea
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Swiss propagandized an anti rightwing nationalist nazi movement. I heard of films produced but didn’t see any. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritual_national_defence
The Spiritual national defence (German: Geistige Landesverteidigung; French: Défense [nationale] spirituelle) was a political-cultural movement in Switzerland which was active from circa 1932 into the 1960s. It was supported by the Swiss authorities, certain institutions, scholars, the press and intellectuals. Its aim was the strengthening of va...
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Watching right now
rathernot123 11/20/2022 12:21 PM
Thoughts ?
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Thoughts ?
joe hill’s revenge 4/15/2023 4:51 PM
interesting...
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joe hill’s revenge 4/21/2023 5:47 PM
@RebelKitty
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Could you make a music video for aif?
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joe hill’s revenge
Could you make a music video for aif?
Daww ^-^ Yis! If there's like a repository of clips or something to use that'd be great. I'm starting to tag my own videos in general with ironfrontusa too.
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Like footage of trainings or direct action could be good. I'd be mindful if blowing OPSEC though if it's stuff of other people.
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Without their own permission at least.
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joe hill’s revenge 4/22/2023 10:22 AM
#protest-pictures and videos has some but you’d probably need to get permission
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I could also try to find historical footage from old Antifa in the USA
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And abroad
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Like ara and even the og iron front
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#protest-videos
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joe hill’s revenge
#protest-pictures and videos has some but you’d probably need to get permission
floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/22/2023 1:44 PM
Twitter probably has a massive amount of videos from the 2020 uprising if you scrounge around enough
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joe hill’s revenge 4/27/2023 12:18 PM
Public Meeting Date: Sunday 4/30 When: 9 AM PST/12 PM EST (noon) Where: Meeting Room voice chat channel Topics: TBA
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This might fit in here. I include some cutesy personal clips but also a bit from the recent event we had in Boise with AIF folks and wholesome message: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CsDNEQKN4io/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
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Oh cool u guys also have studio. I can write scripts and do storyboards
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str8 up demon 7/22/2023 2:12 PM
im not exactly a film maker but i do photography im hoping to do some protests
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