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Theme song is too prescient rn lol
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Cough The majority of politicians will protect their own interests vs the interest of their communities, thus they all suck cough
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birb
Cough The majority of politicians will protect their own interests vs the interest of their communities, thus they all suck cough
austinwiltshire 7/2/2022 3:11 PM
If this is true, one mitigation - albeit, it not a cure, but something that mitigates the harm - is to ensure the political class is a reflection of the wider demographics
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Black Magic 7/4/2022 3:36 PM
Biden's unwillingness to retlaliate against a court and congress that have made mortal threats to millions of Americans; crossed the border into idiocy after roe v wade.
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During FDR's time.. FDR kept his enemies at bay with the threat of what he might do in retaliation. But Biden is so weak; they all know they can do anything. (edited)
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Gavin Newsome might be a candidate worth while (edited)
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samlovespossums 7/4/2022 3:38 PM
…for what?
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President?
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Black Magic 7/4/2022 3:38 PM
He's not ideal; but h maybe the best we have.
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samlovespossums 7/4/2022 3:39 PM
Rather just have a normal neoliberal than one who’s state is notorious for vitriol against the homeless
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I don’t think he would be any more effective than… I don’t know, Buttigieg?
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Black Magic 7/4/2022 3:40 PM
Biden is too old; Buttigieg can't project...anger? anger.
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Newsome is capable of being angry and convincingly threatening.
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There aren't many great options; and the purity tests the left is famous for keeps some of the better president candidates away
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Dr_Diskette 7/4/2022 3:49 PM
lets just elect a cat instead
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Black Magic 7/4/2022 3:53 PM
Without a strong president, we won't survive as a country.
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Black Magic
There aren't many great options; and the purity tests the left is famous for keeps some of the better president candidates away
samlovespossums 7/4/2022 3:54 PM
America would be much better if a different neoliberal won instead of the one that did
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Black Magic 7/4/2022 3:54 PM
We are going to be facing violence, insurrection and economic failures for the next 2 years. we're dangerously close to not being a country now.
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austinwiltshire 7/4/2022 3:56 PM
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Black Magic 7/4/2022 4:05 PM
I actually think the best option we have is to get a an actual general to run on the DEM side
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Like.. draft Ge.Badger or soemthing
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Black Magic
Gavin Newsome might be a candidate worth while (edited)
Nah, Bernie
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10:55 PM
Voting for another status quoist won't accomplish much, he may be more get-going, but I can see him being as effective as Obama
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Which isn't saying much
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HLMenckenFan 7/4/2022 11:54 PM
What are your favorite subreddits?
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Snaggy
Nah, Bernie
yes, but we kinda missed our shot. He's going to be too old. I hope he endorses a serious progressive though. rallies people, yk?
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samlovespossums 7/5/2022 12:21 PM
if they’re gonna run Biden, why the hell not
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NordicThor_ 7/5/2022 1:13 PM
I would love Bernie to run again, but I agree that he’s pretty much the one that got away. Plus, I honestly don’t think that a man will win the next presidential election. I think people are going to be looking for a younger female. I hope it’s AOC
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NordicThor_
I would love Bernie to run again, but I agree that he’s pretty much the one that got away. Plus, I honestly don’t think that a man will win the next presidential election. I think people are going to be looking for a younger female. I hope it’s AOC
I wish aoc would run. Aoc will be too young though. She’s 32 and you have to be 35 to run.
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In my own experience, the country is still too sexist to vote for a woman though anyways.
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Marusya
I wish aoc would run. Aoc will be too young though. She’s 32 and you have to be 35 to run.
NordicThor_ 7/5/2022 1:24 PM
Yeah, but I believe she’d be old enough by the swearing in. I’d have to do more research, just something I heard so take that with a grain of salt
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NordicThor_
Yeah, but I believe she’d be old enough by the swearing in. I’d have to do more research, just something I heard so take that with a grain of salt
Good to know. I wasn’t sure if you had to be 35 to run or 35 by swearing in.
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Would be nice.
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samlovespossums 7/5/2022 1:25 PM
america gave hillary clinton the majority of votes in 2016
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if a candidate as terrible as her can do that, any woman can win
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samlovespossums
america gave hillary clinton the majority of votes in 2016
Yeah. Unless the Moore case changes things drastically. Which it probably will.
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If states can send whatever electorates they want to vote for prez instead of representing people in good faith, the election won’t be democratic anyways.
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With the way things are going though, I’m not convinced women will be allowed to hold office in the next couple years.
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Marusya
With the way things are going though, I’m not convinced women will be allowed to hold office in the next couple years.
NordicThor_ 7/5/2022 1:29 PM
All points VERY valid, I’m sad to say. Once I get home I’ll look up the age thing!
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samlovespossums 7/5/2022 1:30 PM
this is some absurd doomerism lol
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they’re not going to bar women from holding office
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samlovespossums
this is some absurd doomerism lol
Have you been paying attention to Clarence Thomas?
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samlovespossums 7/5/2022 1:30 PM
have you
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samlovespossums
they’re not going to bar women from holding office
People told us they wouldn’t overturn roe v wade a couple years ago.
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Here we are though.
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samlovespossums 7/5/2022 1:31 PM
yeah maybe morons said that
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I’ve followed the court closely for years
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it was extremely apparent that this was a possibility
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they are not going to bar women from voting or holding office lol
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samlovespossums
it was extremely apparent that this was a possibility
The court is also considering overturning Griswold
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samlovespossums 7/5/2022 1:32 PM
Thomas is
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no one concurred on that opinion
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samlovespossums
Thomas is
Tell me how that isn't an afront to women.
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There is an entire movement of people who want to sentence women who get abortions to death.
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samlovespossums 7/5/2022 1:33 PM
ok?
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where does this connect to them banning women from voting or holding office
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There is a population of people who want to punish women.
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samlovespossums
no one concurred on that opinion
TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 1:33 PM
Handmaiden scares me more
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samlovespossums
where does this connect to them banning women from voting or holding office
Barring women from reproductive care is the start
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The courts are also coming for education. Republicans are pushing for religious indoctrination. And religions generally aren't friendly to women holding any kind of power.
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Marusya
The courts are also coming for education. Republicans are pushing for religious indoctrination. And religions generally aren't friendly to women holding any kind of power.
TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 1:35 PM
Keep em 'stupid
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It's a common Orwell tactic
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The religious extremists do not want women to be smart or holding power. Because smart women are powerful women.
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TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 1:35 PM
Stupid people are less likely to challenge
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Even smart men scare them
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samlovespossums 7/5/2022 1:36 PM
I strongly disagree with this premise of “stupid people” not wanting to challenge the bourgeoisie
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you will find it difficult to fight the power if you only work with people who read theory
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TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 1:37 PM
Think about it, why do poorly educated people tend to be more religious? (edited)
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samlovespossums
you will find it difficult to fight the power if you only work with people who read theory
It's about being uninformed. If you don't have a frame of reference to compare your life to, then you'd never think twice about your circumstances. People have to be educated on the fact that they're being duped.
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TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 1:38 PM
And if the Federalist Society thinks the average American will accept this once they wake up to the reality, they are wrong (edited)
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In the words of BJ Blazkowitz "When you take freedom away from the American people, you're playing with fire" (edited)
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samlovespossums
you will find it difficult to fight the power if you only work with people who read theory
In a way people like the Q anoners are victims. They know that they've been duped. But they've been indoctrinated to believe that people like us are the enemies. Rather than the bourgeoisie.
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Marusya
In a way people like the Q anoners are victims. They know that they've been duped. But they've been indoctrinated to believe that people like us are the enemies. Rather than the bourgeoisie.
TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 1:39 PM
I've tried to reach them
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But it seems like they are too far gone
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TheAnonymousDew
But it seems like they are too far gone
Yeah. Most of them are. They have found community in a crazy belief system.
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TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 1:40 PM
Plus, the positive note is that with all the Christian sects here, they will infight and weaken themselves (edited)
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Catholics dislike protestants
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They all dislike the Mormons
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samlovespossums 7/5/2022 1:41 PM
who likes mormons
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TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 1:41 PM
The Southern Baptists hate everybody
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Everyone fighting over imaginary friends just seems childish imo
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TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 1:41 PM
It is
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Unfortunately, I live in Utah. Home to the momos
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Marusya
Unfortunately, I live in Utah. Home to the momos
Bless your heart
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TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 1:42 PM
I know the fundies will target other Christian sects once they consolidate power
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I also grew up mormon. My family is still mormon. and let me tell you. They hate powerful women. (edited)
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TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 1:42 PM
lf you want my opinion, we should lay low and let them destroy each other
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TheAnonymousDew
I know the fundies will target other Christian sects once they consolidate power
Probably
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TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 1:43 PM
But that's the advantage for us
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As a big tent group
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TheAnonymousDew
lf you want my opinion, we should lay low and let them destroy each other
I wonder how long it will take for them to gut eachother
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TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 1:44 PM
"Never interrupt an enemy when they are in the process of making a mistake"- Sun Tzu
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1:47 PM
That means if our worst fears come to pass, we lay low, protect as many marginalized people as possible
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TheAnonymousDew
lf you want my opinion, we should lay low and let them destroy each other
I'm down except for one thing
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TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 1:48 PM
And let the fundies tear each other's throats out
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They are trying to remove the separation of church and state
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TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 1:49 PM
I meant the Christian sects
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Without Seperation of Church and State, they WILL turn on each other
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I know this from history (edited)
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Kinda like how Republicans are turning on each other now?
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TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 1:50 PM
Protestants, Catholics, and Orthodoxy have been at each other's throats for hundreds of years (edited)
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birb
Kinda like how Republicans are turning on each other now?
TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 1:50 PM
Kind of
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The face of Europe was shaped through Christian groups fighting each other (edited)
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I don't believe they will wipe each other out. I think some will fall out but others will conform and kinda merge to make a singular ideology
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birb
I don't believe they will wipe each other out. I think some will fall out but others will conform and kinda merge to make a singular ideology
TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 1:51 PM
I doubt it, remember what happened in Europe before the Enlightenment?
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Nope lol
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TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 1:52 PM
Religious wars between Christian sects
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You had the Anglican British/English competing for influence with the Catholic French and Spanish
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Do you have any references for good literature on the subject?
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birb
Do you have any references for good literature on the subject?
TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 1:53 PM
Googling it. Remember, that was why the establishment clause was written
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TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 1:54 PM
For all of their flaws, the Founding Fathers were smart enough to recognize the role religion caused in wars throughout Europe
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Ever notice why most of the countries of Latin America are predominantly Catholic?
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Spanish colonial influence
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Yes, I have.
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TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 1:55 PM
And religion was a huge reason for colonialism
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Wasn't there a proclamation from a Catholic ruler?
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I'm guessing the king of Spain.
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TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 1:57 PM
Yes
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This is why any attempts at a theocracy in America would end in infighting
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Notice all the different Christian sects?
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Do you think they would unite though for the sake of common ground?
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TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 1:58 PM
Temporarily possibly
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Every religious group has their extremist who wants to shove their beliefs into your life
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I don't think those extremists would fight each other if they both had similar ideologies, or at least basic fundamental concepts
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Such as keeping god in schools, only people who believe in God are allowed in office, banning anything that goes against creationism.
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Example: lately I've seen interviews from a Catholic and a Christian woman who both are against abortion but don't want the government making it illegal
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TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 2:02 PM
Except Protestants and Catholics have turned on each other before
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Then there are woman of both faiths that do want the government to make it illegal
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TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 2:03 PM
The Thirty Years War
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The Troubles
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TheAnonymousDew
Except Protestants and Catholics have turned on each other before
For what reason?
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birb
For what reason?
TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 2:03 PM
Religion
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The war between Catholics and Hugenots in France
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I'm ignorant on the subject but I am assuming there must be something more particular
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I have lots of reading to do now sadsadsleepypepe
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Not to be a crazy cynic, but I’m concerned that they will join forces and do something like the handmaids tale. Fight amongst eachother until they find common ground > create a giant religion > impose it on everyone else.
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TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 2:08 PM
Thing is history shows they won't
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Are you familiar with the Troubles?
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TheAnonymousDew
Thing is history shows they won't
Between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland?
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TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 2:11 PM
One which was protestant, and the other catholic
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TheAnonymousDew
One which was protestant, and the other catholic
Right
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TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 2:12 PM
Many evangelicals also don't consider Catholics to even be Christians
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Theism is fucking weird
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TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 2:18 PM
Another thing they fail to understand is there are more guns than people here.
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Note I'm not calling for violence
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One thing they fail to understand is that there are more guns than people here, while I'm not advocating for violence. Once more Americans wake up, they won't be able to hold power for long
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Absolutely valid statement
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TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 2:28 PM
The Supreme Court nuking NY's gun laws was a big mistake
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And a lot of people here don't like being told what to do
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austinwiltshire 7/5/2022 3:11 PM
Mainline protestants don't like evangelicals
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Catholic clergy align somewhat with evangelicals. Especially on abortion. Catholic laity tend to align more with mainline protestants
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Can someone explain to me what theory is? When I ask if it's the general math behind economics, or piketty or georgism I get blank stares and instance that folks figured this out in the 18th century with a labor theory of value that makes absolutely no sense to me.
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Came across this a bit ago
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HLMenckenFan 7/5/2022 3:31 PM
You guys may like r/religiousfruitcake which highlights how bad these sorts of people can be
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That's a great sub
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HLMenckenFan 7/5/2022 3:49 PM
I moderate it
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Thank you for your service
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HLMenckenFan 7/5/2022 4:15 PM
No problem
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Those people can be pretty crazy
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Marusya
Good to know. I wasn’t sure if you had to be 35 to run or 35 by swearing in.
NordicThor_ 7/5/2022 4:47 PM
It looks to me like the 20th amendment would allow an unqualified candidate to run, but the VP (assuming they’re qualified) would be acting president until the president-elect meets the qualifications. To me, this sounds like AOC could run with Bernie as VP. If someone determines that AOC isn’t old enough, Bernie would step in as acting president until AOC turns 35. But as we have seen, the Constitution can be interpreted in wildly different ways…
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And I’ll just take a minute and say, can you imagine an Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders White House?! 😍
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And I’ll just take a minute and say, can you imagine an Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders White House?! 😍
We can dream.
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And I’ll just take a minute and say, can you imagine an Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders White House?! 😍
thechromatograph3r 7/5/2022 6:25 PM
Baaahahaha! Like that would ever happen. The DNC would never allow that!
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thechromatograph3r
Baaahahaha! Like that would ever happen. The DNC would never allow that!
NordicThor_ 7/5/2022 6:27 PM
Unfortunately, you’re correct
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TheAnonymousDew 7/5/2022 6:53 PM
Which is why America is in this mess
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Kryptik
yes, but we kinda missed our shot. He's going to be too old. I hope he endorses a serious progressive though. rallies people, yk?
Agreed
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thechromatograph3r 7/6/2022 1:11 AM
It’s a ratchet effect
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Lack of childcare and well-paid jobs might be driving the labor shortage. Mitch McConnell thinks March 2021 stimulus checks are to blame.
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NordicThor_ 7/6/2022 8:00 AM
If anyone’s on TikTok, I’d suggest following @jesspipermo. She’s running for a state seat, but she seems to know her stuff and she’s always pretty articulate…for Missouri anyway 😜
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TikTok is spyware
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NordicThor_ 7/6/2022 8:18 AM
What isn’t, though?
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That's not a valid reason to host malware.
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/6/2022 9:24 AM
I hadn't heard that before, what is TikTok doing that the other social media platforms aren't doing?
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker
I hadn't heard that before, what is TikTok doing that the other social media platforms aren't doing?
NordicThor_ 7/6/2022 9:34 AM
That’s what I’m getting at. Like, the fucking INTERNET is spyware. Is there a way to still be a part of this cause and not be a computer genius? I know I’m not the only one here who’s just getting by with minimal computer literacy. Maybe the Infosec channel can provide some kind of guide or something?
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/6/2022 9:43 AM
I work in infosec and I have never seen TikTok mentioned as a unique or specific threat. I don't see everything, of course, which is why I'd love more information.
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I work in infosec and I have never seen TikTok mentioned as a unique or specific threat. I don't see everything, of course, which is why I'd love more information.
A new security report has just been published, adding substance to the U.S. threats being made against China's social media sensation.
“I feel like with these tools, there’s some backdoor to access user data in almost all of them,” said an external auditor hired to help TikTok close off Chinese access to sensitive information, like Americans’ birthdays and phone numbers.
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NordicThor_ 7/6/2022 10:20 AM
So I’ve deleted my TikTok account and app. It’s something I planned on doing a while back anyway, but all this shit going on got me into it again. I do hope that this convo leads those who know what they’re doing to provide guidance to the laypeople like me here
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I mean long story short, all social media spies on you. This is an open secret and device manafacturers are complicit in it. That being said, each manafacturer and each social media platform draws the line between allowed and illegal spying somewhere slightly different. TikTok is in shit rn because they said that the data that they collect on US users stays on their US servers and never goes to china, which it turns out is false. They also may have overstepped the line drawn by Apple as to what level of snooping is allowed, but I'm not entirely sure about that.
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If you want to work out what actions to take, first you need to develop a threat model. That is, to work out the kind of entity that you are worried about, and what they would like to do. From their, you can look to see what kind of access a threat actor would need to accomplish their goals, and then what you can do to prevent them from gaining that access. (edited)
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TheAnonymousDew 7/6/2022 10:51 AM
What a load of horseshit. The real reason is because nobody wants to be treated like shit for meager pay
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker
I hadn't heard that before, what is TikTok doing that the other social media platforms aren't doing?
TikTok doesn’t just see its users dance videos. It collects search and browsing histories, keystroke patterns, biometric identifiers, draft messages and metadata, plus it has collected the text, images, and videos that are stored on a device's clipboard.
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The move follows Pentagon guidance and a similar ban by the US Navy.
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NordicThor_ 7/6/2022 12:07 PM
Thanks for the info
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I just don't do social media. Discord and Reddit are the only two apps I use on my phone. I don't have accounts for anything else. I'm really not trying to give companies my data for them to sale, I don't care that they are all doing it. Fuck Google, too. I run pihole on my network and do everything possible to avoid feeding these leaches. Change your DNS and use other search engines.
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I'm not even close to being a professional at information security, but I am aware.
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TheAnonymousDew 7/6/2022 1:00 PM
We may have to use social media to get our message out
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Truth is TV and radio are declining
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Newspapers are even further in decline
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birb
I just don't do social media. Discord and Reddit are the only two apps I use on my phone. I don't have accounts for anything else. I'm really not trying to give companies my data for them to sale, I don't care that they are all doing it. Fuck Google, too. I run pihole on my network and do everything possible to avoid feeding these leaches. Change your DNS and use other search engines.
That's where I am too. I use reddit (and its mostly gardening and craft stuff like wood working) and i use discord with the understanding that discord will record whatever I put on it. https://youtu.be/M5X6iLHzqAI
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TheAnonymousDew 7/6/2022 1:06 PM
Problem is whenever I try to bring up TikTok's issues, I get "Okay, so?"
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TheAnonymousDew
Problem is whenever I try to bring up TikTok's issues, I get "Okay, so?"
100% Or "I dont have anything to hide" to which I reply, yeah, not even your dignity apparently
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TheAnonymousDew 7/6/2022 1:07 PM
or "Google and FB do it all the time"
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Yeah, i also dont have facebook, and avoid google as best I can lol
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TheAnonymousDew 7/6/2022 1:08 PM
Hard to do so
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I got a "Fuck the FCC message"
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austinwiltshire 7/6/2022 11:52 PM
I worked in adtech and saw what we had access to. If anyone's curious, let me know.
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TheAnonymousDew 7/7/2022 12:47 AM
Truth is what those Federalist Society nutbags fail to realize is that nuking voting rights alongside gun control laws will backfire horribly. While I can't defend violence as that violates the server rules, point is in their authoritarian power grab, they overlooked that
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Black Magic 7/7/2022 7:16 AM
Biden has proven impotent and unless he dies soon; he’s pretty much guaranteed Kamala will never be president
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TheAnonymousDew
Truth is what those Federalist Society nutbags fail to realize is that nuking voting rights alongside gun control laws will backfire horribly. While I can't defend violence as that violates the server rules, point is in their authoritarian power grab, they overlooked that
Poor, hungry, overworked people have a lot less to lose than those who have wealth and easy lives. These politicians are shaking the hornets nest and don't realize it.
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NordicThor_ 7/7/2022 3:01 PM
It may have already been discussed somewhere here, but what are the general thoughts on the Ukrainian-Russian conflict? NATO? U.S. involvement? I’ll probably get some hate from some people, but I’ll post my thoughts here
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I think Russia has no right to do what it’s doing, and it is the sole aggressor in this conflict. Ukraine is a sovereign country that deserves independence of the ENTIRE country. I’ve heard a lot of anti-NATO sentiment, especially from the only active left wing group in the area. I believe that NATO is important because of situations like this. It’s a defensive org and the U.S. should stay in it. I’m on the fence about U.S. military involvement, only because I know the threat of nuclear war is real. On the other hand, how can we sit by and let this happen? Putin’s imperial aspirations are just as bad as Hilter’s IMO (edited)
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TheAnonymousDew 7/7/2022 3:16 PM
Indeed
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WojtektheBear 7/7/2022 4:50 PM
It’s hard to accept that the U.S. is heading towards democratic collapse. So, I photoshopped some potential headlines to show #WhatsToCome if we don’t act now…
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If someone could post that on the sub I was suspended from reddit until tomorrow lol
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If someone could post that on the sub I was suspended from reddit until tomorrow lol
HLMenckenFan 7/7/2022 5:39 PM
what happened lol
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what happened lol
WojtektheBear 7/7/2022 5:40 PM
Don’t worry about it
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HLMenckenFan 7/7/2022 5:40 PM
Alright
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My account hasn't been suspended before
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My account hasn't been suspended before
WojtektheBear 7/7/2022 6:23 PM
I was very upset other people in Boston weren’t more mad about Patriot Front, and I told mods for go fuck themselves after
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HLMenckenFan 7/7/2022 6:25 PM
I see
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I was very upset other people in Boston weren’t more mad about Patriot Front, and I told mods for go fuck themselves after
Dr_Diskette 7/7/2022 6:25 PM
Uhh im sorry what
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Uhh im sorry what
WojtektheBear 7/7/2022 6:27 PM
One dude reported me for making fun of his username and incorrect take that they did not break laws and they banned me from the Boston sub for 90 days
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Dr_Diskette 7/7/2022 6:27 PM
Bruhh
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WojtektheBear 7/7/2022 6:28 PM
So then I tried to appeal to the mods and they were slow walking it so I told them to go fuck themselves
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Dr_Diskette 7/7/2022 6:28 PM
That’s one of the most Reddit things I’ve ever heard
6:28 PM
I got all my posts taken down from the Florida Reddit for inciting violence
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WojtektheBear 7/7/2022 6:29 PM
His username was something something gay stoner snd I was like “I don’t think Pf would like gay stonersl and that got me banned from the sub
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Honestly I’d have been fine with it if it wasn’t 90 days and the guy didn’t try to get me perma banned from reddit
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His username was something something gay stoner snd I was like “I don’t think Pf would like gay stonersl and that got me banned from the sub
Dr_Diskette 7/7/2022 6:29 PM
I mean ur not wrong (edited)
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WojtektheBear 7/7/2022 6:30 PM
The mods accused me of ban evasion and he sent me a chat congratulating me on my permaban (so I think he made an account that made it seem like it was me protesting my ban)
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The mods accused me of ban evasion and he sent me a chat congratulating me on my permaban (so I think he made an account that made it seem like it was me protesting my ban)
Dr_Diskette 7/7/2022 6:33 PM
lmao thats petty af
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HLMenckenFan 7/7/2022 6:40 PM
yes
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I was very upset other people in Boston weren’t more mad about Patriot Front, and I told mods for go fuck themselves after
We can be best friends
8:48 PM
Best part about appealing to Reddit mods is lack of discourse.
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They mute you and if you say anything after that, ban.
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HLMenckenFan 7/7/2022 9:34 PM
Yep...
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We can be best friends
WojtektheBear 7/8/2022 12:54 AM
Lmfao righteous anger is no vice
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I think Russia has no right to do what it’s doing, and it is the sole aggressor in this conflict. Ukraine is a sovereign country that deserves independence of the ENTIRE country. I’ve heard a lot of anti-NATO sentiment, especially from the only active left wing group in the area. I believe that NATO is important because of situations like this. It’s a defensive org and the U.S. should stay in it. I’m on the fence about U.S. military involvement, only because I know the threat of nuclear war is real. On the other hand, how can we sit by and let this happen? Putin’s imperial aspirations are just as bad as Hilter’s IMO (edited)
thechromatograph3r 7/8/2022 6:40 PM
I agree with all of your points.
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I think Russia has no right to do what it’s doing, and it is the sole aggressor in this conflict. Ukraine is a sovereign country that deserves independence of the ENTIRE country. I’ve heard a lot of anti-NATO sentiment, especially from the only active left wing group in the area. I believe that NATO is important because of situations like this. It’s a defensive org and the U.S. should stay in it. I’m on the fence about U.S. military involvement, only because I know the threat of nuclear war is real. On the other hand, how can we sit by and let this happen? Putin’s imperial aspirations are just as bad as Hilter’s IMO (edited)
TheAnonymousDew 7/8/2022 6:40 PM
Agreed
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Deleted User 7/8/2022 7:51 PM
Nato is what context makes of it
7:52 PM
Technically it shouldn't have bombed Serbia but your not going to see me shed a tear for Milosevic
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HLMenckenFan 7/8/2022 11:54 PM
Are any right wingers here?
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Sorry. I meant libertarians
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HLMenckenFan 7/9/2022 12:31 AM
Well, there are subtle differences between them
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On social issues mostly
12:32 AM
There is a pipeline between libertarianism and the far right for sure
12:32 AM
I'm noticing that online especially
12:37 AM
'Libertarians' either end up fascists or leftists but rarely in the middle (edited)
12:40 AM
There is no room for moderation in these times
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Great Leader 7/9/2022 12:41 AM
Simply be an anarchist
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Be cool, dammit!
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HLMenckenFan 7/9/2022 12:42 AM
I have anarchist friends
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I'm noticing that online especially
HLMenckenFan 7/9/2022 12:43 AM
Cringe
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Great Leader 7/9/2022 12:46 AM
But also metal as fuck
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HLMenckenFan 7/9/2022 12:47 AM
I see
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But also metal as fuck
HLMenckenFan 7/9/2022 12:47 AM
The comments on libertarianmeme are endorsing the assassination
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"He did good" one user said
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Never mind
12:51 AM
Forgot to mention I'm banned from Libertarian. There's also LibertarianUncensored which is must smaller. I would stay away from Anarcho_Capitalism (edited)
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There is a pipeline between libertarianism and the far right for sure
American libertarianism and republicanism is interchangeable at the end of the day, they're just minarchists that love capitalism without realizing that to be a true libertarian you have to be anti-capitalist
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Ik it should be in memes but this is political as well, because fuck Shinzo
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HLMenckenFan 7/9/2022 7:53 AM
There is also a subreddit called classical_liberals which is more moderate.
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Ik it should be in memes but this is political as well, because fuck Shinzo
I did toss it in memes, this man fucked around and got murdered twice in one day (edited)
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NordicThor_ 7/9/2022 10:19 AM
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TheAnonymousDew 7/9/2022 11:18 AM
Social libertarians I'm cool with
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TheAnonymousDew 7/9/2022 11:18 AM
The legitimacy of the Supreme Court has already sailed
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The libertarians who believe in "Live and Let Live"
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HLMenckenFan 7/9/2022 11:50 AM
They are hard to come by
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TheAnonymousDew 7/9/2022 12:41 PM
Most are LINOs
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HLMenckenFan 7/9/2022 1:21 PM
I know. The Mises Caucus takeover has done a number on the party. I am permabanned from libertarianmeme, so I can’t use it to attack authoritarians anymore. (edited)
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There are too few memes on there attacking the right explicitly and too many doing a “both sides” bad or attacking the Dems (edited)
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I am also banned from ConservativeMemes, which is a terrible subreddit in itself. That’s enough of a rant. (edited)
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HLMenckenFan 7/9/2022 3:29 PM
The takeover of the party by the Mises Caucus means election subversion has another friend in 2024
3:29 PM
Organizing libertarians is like herding cats. (r/libertarianunity is okay) (edited)
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TheAnonymousDew 7/9/2022 3:41 PM
Problem is the party also didn't do enough to address the bigotry
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HLMenckenFan 7/9/2022 3:51 PM
The anti-anti-bigotry side took over
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HLMenckenFan 7/9/2022 3:53 PM
The post which shared this article on r/Libertarian is removed by the mods for being "off topic" (edited)
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It's too easy to get banned from r/Conservative
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TheAnonymousDew 7/10/2022 4:07 AM
Chris Ruddy owner of Newsmax claims it’s worth over $200 million, Dominion got the greenlight to sue them for $1.6 Billion, do the math.
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Good news: If Dominion wins their lawsuit, they'll put Newsmax out of business
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TheAnonymousDew 7/10/2022 4:25 AM
And they'll land Fox News a massive blow
9:15 AM
Thoughts?
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HLMenckenFan 7/10/2022 9:31 AM
The Trump placement is accurate
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Seems mostly accurate really. Most democrats arent left of shit
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HLMenckenFan 7/10/2022 11:35 AM
How is Yang authright again?
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How is Yang authright again?
not my graph
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HLMenckenFan 7/10/2022 11:40 AM
Oh
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HLMenckenFan
How is Yang authright again?
I read he has stated he admires Chinas government
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ima look more into it
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HLMenckenFan 7/10/2022 11:45 AM
Oh dear
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How is Yang authright again?
This is the only thing I found that hinted at it. I will need to watch that podcast to confirm these claims. I also want to note that he is the closest one on the line from Authoritarian and most candidates are for some sort of civilian submission to a central government authority. (edited)
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In my opinion, there will always be a hint of authoritarian ideology in our government.
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HLMenckenFan 7/10/2022 12:08 PM
I see
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Great Leader 7/10/2022 3:00 PM
It really does come back to the thing where those who want to be in government shouldn't be, but they will be.
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I see
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HLMenckenFan 7/10/2022 3:20 PM
Hi
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Hi buddy
HLMenckenFan 7/10/2022 5:18 PM
How are you?
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How are you?
Great! I just got a Popeyes chicken sandwich
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Everything is lovely again
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Great! I just got a Popeyes chicken sandwich
WojtektheBear 7/10/2022 5:42 PM
There’s a Popeye’s about 20 minutes walk to my place and I constantly have to stop myself from going every other day lol
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HLMenckenFan 7/10/2022 5:43 PM
Ok
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There’s a Popeye’s about 20 minutes walk to my place and I constantly have to stop myself from going every other day lol
It’s the one in Lynn I assume
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That’s where I order my stuff from
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It’s the one in Lynn I assume
WojtektheBear 7/10/2022 5:44 PM
Nah there’s one in my neighborhood in Boston
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Ahhhh that makes sense
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Nah there’s one in my neighborhood in Boston
Idk when I’ll be in downtown Boston, but I’m attending Berklee College of Music online atm, and I’m aiming to head to the physical campus at some point. I don’t know when, but it will likely happen sometime either this year or in the next.
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HLMenckenFan 7/10/2022 5:46 PM
Interesting
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It’d absolutely be great if I was on campus though, because that gives me an advantage to show up at any protests or alt-right appearances and flash protests
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HLMenckenFan 7/10/2022 5:51 PM
The alt right hide behind "free speech" all the time at their appearances. It's very predictable
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The alt right hide behind "free speech" all the time at their appearances. It's very predictable
OH SHIT YOU JUST REMINDED ME
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HLMenckenFan 7/10/2022 5:51 PM
Yes?
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My brother ended up at that Boston Patriot Front meetup when he was downtown
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HLMenckenFan 7/10/2022 5:51 PM
Damn
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He’s pretty politically unintelligent; dude’s a grilled, so I can’t really blame him for not knowing, but what happened was that he saw the demonstration near Copley Square. He was walking back to his car and stumbled upon the protest and was curious about what was going on. There weren’t any people holding up signs pointing out the fact that these guys were fascists so he didn’t know. Anyways, he asked them what the protest was about, and one cheeky Nazi said “free speech.” My brother was like “oh cool” so he gave him a high-five and went on his way. Bro, I swear to god, the look on his face when he watched 7 News the moment he walked in the door and realized who those guys were will always be in the back of my mind 😂😂
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He was cold for like a couple hours, and I was all like “Sooooo, how does it feel knowing you high-fived a fascist?”
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WojtektheBear 7/10/2022 5:58 PM
They literally did the free speech meme
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And he bought it hook line and sinker lmao
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He was cold for like a couple hours, and I was all like “Sooooo, how does it feel knowing you high-fived a fascist?”
WojtektheBear 7/10/2022 5:58 PM
Did it make him want to be more involved or at least better informed?
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Did it make him want to be more involved or at least better informed?
He kinda just shrugged it off, which is disappointing.
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Honestly was hoping he’d open his eyes a bit more at all the fascist activity New England has been experiencing these past few months, but he seems more preoccupied watching Star Wars: The Clone Wars and preparing for college.
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Did it make him want to be more involved or at least better informed?
He’s like one of those guys who would engage if he had the time, but he’s too immersed in other life-related things to do anything about it; the current state of moderates and people unfazed by politics and extremism atm.
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He was cold for like a couple hours, and I was all like “Sooooo, how does it feel knowing you high-fived a fascist?”
HLMenckenFan 7/10/2022 6:02 PM
Damn
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Honestly was hoping he’d open his eyes a bit more at all the fascist activity New England has been experiencing these past few months, but he seems more preoccupied watching Star Wars: The Clone Wars and preparing for college.
WojtektheBear 7/10/2022 6:02 PM
Tbh that show is literally about a Republic in civil conflict falling to fascism, good idea to massage those themes into any SW discussion you have with him
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HLMenckenFan 7/10/2022 6:02 PM
He must have thought their aesthetics were cool
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Tbh that show is literally about a Republic in civil conflict falling to fascism, good idea to massage those themes into any SW discussion you have with him
Yeah it’s pretty on-par lol
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WojtektheBear 7/10/2022 6:02 PM
I can’t totally blame they guy but maybe when he’s in school he’ll be more open to it
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He must have thought their aesthetics were cool
Probably, either that or he was distracted by their purposeful simplicity in clothing.
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I can’t totally blame they guy but maybe when he’s in school he’ll be more open to it
Oh god yes, absolutely
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HLMenckenFan 7/10/2022 6:43 PM
Indeed
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This is exactly how I feel
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Please don't buy a gun before learning basic gun safety and purchasing adequate locked storage 🦺 you should own a gun if you are mentally stable and are willing to but please do so safely.
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Dr_Diskette 7/10/2022 8:16 PM
^^^
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Please don't buy a gun before learning basic gun safety and purchasing adequate locked storage 🦺 you should own a gun if you are mentally stable and are willing to but please do so safely.
WojtektheBear 7/10/2022 8:29 PM
Part of why I plan on meeting up with friends who know better and have them show me the ropes
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Part of why I plan on meeting up with friends who know better and have them show me the ropes
This is 100% a fantastic way to learn. For those without friends, A lot of ranges have classes and even allow you rent different types of firearms so you can try before you buy (edited)
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This is 100% a fantastic way to learn. For those without friends, A lot of ranges have classes and even allow you rent different types of firearms so you can try before you buy (edited)
WojtektheBear 7/10/2022 8:31 PM
I’m in MA so access to firearms is quite restricted, while I’m visiting friends and family in Florida I plan on making time for training. Repeat visits as well
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I’m in MA so access to firearms is quite restricted, while I’m visiting friends and family in Florida I plan on making time for training. Repeat visits as well
NC here, ngl firearm regs are pretty insane. All over the board.
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Just gonna throw it out there but historically gun control legis has (generally) been a tool of minority opression. In NC for example, you need to pay for a handgun permit and make sure you don't have any legal reasons to not own a firearm. You can buy a long arm without a permit. You can draw the implications of that as you see fit. (edited)
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Just gonna throw it out there but historically gun control legis has (generally) been a tool of minority opression. In NC for example, you need to pay for a handgun permit and make sure you don't have any legal reasons to not own a firearm. You can buy a long arm without a permit. You can draw the implications of that as you see fit. (edited)
WojtektheBear 7/10/2022 8:36 PM
Reconstruction’s failure and the victory of the Redeemers haunts this nation in a million different ways
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Used be Black and Republican militias that kicked the shit out of white supremacists for a dozen years. Really wanna read a book on the perdido
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Used be Black and Republican militias that kicked the shit out of white supremacists for a dozen years. Really wanna read a book on the perdido
thechromatograph3r 7/11/2022 8:32 AM
And then Reagan disarmed them
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HLMenckenFan 7/11/2022 8:49 AM
When he was governor of California
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Reconstruction’s failure and the victory of the Redeemers haunts this nation in a million different ways
MisterStompy 7/11/2022 1:55 PM
Andrew Johnson is quite possibly the most damaging political figure in United States history.
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Andrew Johnson is quite possibly the most damaging political figure in United States history.
WojtektheBear 7/11/2022 2:00 PM
Johnson was sumbitch for sure but let’s not forget there was a divide even with the GOP. Radical Republicans waved the bloody shirt and got a lot out of it until other Republicans who were more focused on market fundamentalism decided Robber Baron’s pockets mattered more than Black Lives
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Andrew Johnson is quite possibly the most damaging political figure in United States history.
Dr_Diskette 7/11/2022 4:27 PM
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MisterStompy 7/11/2022 4:28 PM
Trump would never have been elected had Andrew Johnson not stopped reconstruction.
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Trump would never have been elected had Andrew Johnson not stopped reconstruction.
Dr_Diskette 7/11/2022 4:29 PM
good point
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TheAnonymousDew 7/11/2022 4:53 PM
Hell, Jim Crow would have never happened
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HLMenckenFan 7/11/2022 5:13 PM
Imagine if Lincoln weren't assassinated
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MisterStompy 7/11/2022 10:27 PM
NEW: The Biden administration has told hospitals they must provide abortions where the life of the mother is at risk, saying federal law on emergency treatment guidelines preempts state laws that ban this life-saving care.
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Trump would never have been elected had Andrew Johnson not stopped reconstruction.
thechromatograph3r 7/11/2022 11:02 PM
Butterfly effect means a lot of stuff wouldn’t have happened.
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HLMenckenFan 7/11/2022 11:22 PM
I see
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Well it goes Andrew Johnson, down to Woodrow Wilson, then Nixon, Reagan, and then Trump, imo
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WojtektheBear 7/12/2022 7:21 AM
Idk exactly why dude but the Dark Brandon meme is so fucking funny (edited)
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Idk exactly why dude but the Dark Brandon meme is so fucking funny (edited)
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WojtektheBear 7/12/2022 3:41 PM
I’m fucking cackling you’re lucky I’m alone at work lmaooo
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NordicThor_ 7/12/2022 5:39 PM
Republican Sen. Josh Hawley of Missouri was accused by a law professor of engaging in a line of transphobic questioning during a hearing Tuesday on the legal consequences of the Supreme Court's reversal of Roe v. Wade.
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MisterStompy 7/12/2022 7:23 PM
At one point during the Uvalde school massacre, the police ran away from the gunfire and then started using a hand sanitizer dispenser to procrastinate heading back in. https://twitter.com/TexasLindsay/status/1546977604648968194
Watch as men in uniform RETREAT as children + teachers were HELPLESSLY being massacred in their classroom. Knowing that these same men handcuffed parents who tried to protect + save their children. Every single person in uniform present that day should resign in disgrace.#Uvalde
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This doesn't disprove "good guy with a gun" because police are not "good guys"
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thechromatograph3r 7/12/2022 7:38 PM
Police are fucking power-tripping cowards who only engage unarmed people and/or minorities. They want to bully, not “serve and protect.” Those parents who tried to run in had more balls.
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At one point during the Uvalde school massacre, the police ran away from the gunfire and then started using a hand sanitizer dispenser to procrastinate heading back in. https://twitter.com/TexasLindsay/status/1546977604648968194
Like Pontius Pilate, washing his hands and sealing their fate (edited)
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thechromatograph3r 7/12/2022 7:47 PM
Pilate wasn’t the one who washed his hands of silver. That was Judas.
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Im not christian, I know the bible. Lol
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thechromatograph3r 7/12/2022 8:02 PM
Oh, that
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Pilate wasn’t the one who washed his hands of silver. That was Judas.
WojtektheBear 7/12/2022 8:02 PM
Yeah I went to Catholic school he’s right
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That’s the whole thing Pilate knew it was wrong but choose to do nothing
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Juuuuuust like these cops
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Josh Hawley is a literal "national conservative" and wants to ban porn, and more to stop a "degenerate lifestyle that's decimating American youth, culture, and birth rates" take that as you will.
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Bet he’s into some gnarly stuff
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Josh Hawley is a literal "national conservative" and wants to ban porn, and more to stop a "degenerate lifestyle that's decimating American youth, culture, and birth rates" take that as you will.
NordicThor_ 7/12/2022 11:26 PM
I take that as the ideals of a human piece of garbage 🙂 (edited)
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Josh Hawley is a literal "national conservative" and wants to ban porn, and more to stop a "degenerate lifestyle that's decimating American youth, culture, and birth rates" take that as you will.
HLMenckenFan 7/12/2022 11:32 PM
Fucking statist
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Quite authoritarian
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Josh Hawley is a literal "national conservative" and wants to ban porn, and more to stop a "degenerate lifestyle that's decimating American youth, culture, and birth rates" take that as you will.
HLMenckenFan 7/12/2022 11:36 PM
Nat-C
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HLMenckenFan 7/12/2022 11:53 PM
At his conspiracy theory conference, Michael Flynn implied vaccines will be used by the government “to surveil you under the skin.”
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TheAnonymousDew 7/13/2022 3:05 AM
There isn't anything the government doesn't already have on these morons that they haven't already willingly given them by using the internet, a banking account, GPS, or even a mobile phone. Why would they need to go through the hassle of implanting microchips into people when they already have everything they need to track them ready to go? (edited)
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HLMenckenFan 7/13/2022 8:04 AM
No idea
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HLMenckenFan 7/13/2022 8:12 AM
That take sucks
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Wouldn't boot licker mean you appeal to authority?
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HLMenckenFan 7/13/2022 8:12 AM
Yes, but if it's a private authority they're totally fine with it
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There are a lot of conservatives on there
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I think a lot have migrated to the name "Libertarian" since conservative is being tarnished.
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HLMenckenFan 7/13/2022 8:17 AM
We're more libertarian than they ever will be
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thechromatograph3r 7/13/2022 9:35 AM
I mean, true, but not solely.
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I think a lot have migrated to the name "Libertarian" since conservative is being tarnished.
thechromatograph3r 7/13/2022 9:36 AM
That’s how I was until 2019
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HLMenckenFan 7/13/2022 10:11 AM
I see
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thechromatograph3r
I mean, true, but not solely.
True?
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True?
thechromatograph3r 7/13/2022 10:33 AM
They like to cry it out, but the moderate right, the center, the moderate left, and the far left all use the term “our democracy” in many contexts, and I’m not just speaking semantically.
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I think they like to cry about it because democracy is in danger. The context I've seen from "our democracy" as in The American democracy, because it is shared with everyone.
10:37 AM
Bootlicker also represents someone who appeals to authority. So someone who is worried about democracy, which is almost the opposite of authoritarianism, would not be the same.
10:37 AM
What other contexts am I missing?
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HLMenckenFan 7/13/2022 10:43 AM
Rothbardians are critical of democracy and the comment by that one user is downplaying the incident (edited)
10:47 AM
You also see that with Hoppeans
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MisterStompy 7/13/2022 11:18 AM
Trump went hard on Elon. This is an amazing feud.
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HLMenckenFan 7/13/2022 11:28 AM
Indeed
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HLMenckenFan 7/13/2022 11:30 AM
The post was removed by the mods for being "off topic". I predicted that
11:33 AM
Too bad
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HLMenckenFan
The post was removed by the mods for being "off topic". I predicted that
Yeah you did lol
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MisterStompy
Trump went hard on Elon. This is an amazing feud.
It's awesome to see two rich assholes fighting.
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birb
Yeah you did lol
HLMenckenFan 7/13/2022 12:13 PM
sigh
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Remember that time trump said he was going to make Mexico pay for border security...
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Shocking, right?
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HLMenckenFan 7/13/2022 4:17 PM
woah
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Cause mexico is like "maybe its a good idea if this keeps yall in there too"
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HLMenckenFan 7/13/2022 5:03 PM
lol
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Shocking, right?
MisterStompy 7/13/2022 7:00 PM
Dark Brandon at work
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WojtektheBear 7/13/2022 7:14 PM
Imagine a version of the Iron Throne made of AR-15s lol
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Imagine a version of the Iron Throne made of AR-15s lol
MisterStompy 7/13/2022 7:15 PM
apparently it's a Chinese propaganda drawing that's supposed to make Biden look bad
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apparently it's a Chinese propaganda drawing that's supposed to make Biden look bad
WojtektheBear 7/13/2022 7:15 PM
Oh I know exactly what this is from lol
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He is missing ice cream
9:20 PM
Smoking fucking gun holy shit
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HLMenckenFan 7/13/2022 9:26 PM
r/LincolnProject
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Dr_Diskette 7/13/2022 9:29 PM
And he still will get away with it
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HLMenckenFan 7/13/2022 9:30 PM
Bannon helped mainstream Trump
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Imagine a version of the Iron Throne made of AR-15s lol
thechromatograph3r 7/13/2022 10:47 PM
Based
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HLMenckenFan 7/13/2022 11:07 PM
Boebert: “If there really is this separation of church and state like they believe, then what is Ilhan doing with her hijab on? Why is she able to go in there with that?”
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11:07 PM
She has no idea what she's talking about. Just wanted to share this. (edited)
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thechromatograph3r 7/13/2022 11:10 PM
You fucking dumbass, Bobo. Separation of church and state means the state can't fucking legislate religion. You can wear a cross necklace if you want, Bobo. Ilhan can wear her fucking hijab. Jesus fuck you're a fucking idiot.
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HLMenckenFan 7/13/2022 11:11 PM
What we need is a separation of kook and state
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thechromatograph3r 7/13/2022 11:14 PM
LOL
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HLMenckenFan 7/13/2022 11:15 PM
bobo
11:15 PM
Bobo the clown
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thechromatograph3r 7/13/2022 11:19 PM
"Bobo" is slang en español for something to the effect of "dummy"
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HLMenckenFan 7/13/2022 11:21 PM
I'm aware
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thechromatograph3r 7/13/2022 11:34 PM
My new hobby is taking graphs of economic data over time and indicating the year that Ronald Reagan was inaugurated, in case people find that helpful or informative.
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TheAnonymousDew 7/13/2022 11:48 PM
I want to do a Reagan "I Did That" meme
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HLMenckenFan 7/13/2022 11:50 PM
Just find an image of Reagan pointing
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I want to do a Reagan "I Did That" meme
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"Bobo" is slang en español for something to the effect of "dummy"
This carries over to filipino, someone called bobo is an idiot
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HLMenckenFan 7/14/2022 8:06 AM
The House Approves Bill to Monitor White Supremacy Despite the vote supporting the amendment, all House Republicans voted to oppose the measure. As part of the annual defense spending bill, […]
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Damn
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U.S. Government Warns Iran May Attempt To Assassinate Current Or Former Senior American Officials (Yahoo News) National: The U.S. government believes that Iran may try to assassinate current or former senior American officials to avenge the death more than two years ago of its top military and intelligence commander, according to an intelligence report obtained by media on Wednesday. In January 2020, the White House conducted a drone strike that killed its top military and intelligence commander while he was on a trip to Iraq. Since then, the regime in Tehran has threatened revenge against those it deems responsible and has made a series of threats and started legal proceedings against U.S. officials. As POTUS begins his trip to the Middle East, the U.S. government believes the threat of an attack is still high. On Monday, a White House official announced Iranian plans to provide missiles and training to Russia in support of its war against Ukraine. The National Counterterrorism Center, which produced the June intelligence report, declined to comment. The U.S. Secret Service did not immediately respond to a request for comment. The intelligence community and federal law enforcement agencies have been concerned about retaliatory attacks from Iran in response to the death of Soleimani, and such concerns date back even before then. Source: https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-us-government-warns-iran-may-try-to-kill-american-officials-in-revenge-for-killing-top-general-162641423.html
The U.S. government believes Iran may try to assassinate current or former senior American officials to avenge the death more than two years ago of its top military and intelligence commander, according to an intelligence report obtained by Yahoo News.
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HLMenckenFan 7/14/2022 9:50 AM
*triples the national debt
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Classic Republican move, fuck up everything then use the taxpayer $ to bail everyone out except the poor and destroy the economy
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thechromatograph3r 7/14/2022 12:31 PM
It’s ALL Reagan’s fault. CHRIST.
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Rudolph Yankenson 7/14/2022 12:34 PM
But guys Reagan had funni stories and and he was so soft spoken, he was best president!!!!!1111!
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HLMenckenFan 7/14/2022 12:54 PM
Reagan was the first neoliberal Republican president
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thechromatograph3r 7/14/2022 12:59 PM
Two former law enforcement officials are demanding a total of $10 million in damages from Grant County for an alleged “pattern of retaliatory conduct” by Sheriff Tom Jones and Undersheriff
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thechromatograph3r 7/14/2022 2:15 PM
This is horrible. The GOP just released a national anti-trans bill. It will not pass this year, but this shows their intentions if they win. HB8170 would force teachers to:
  • Misgender trans students.
  • Out trans kids to their parents.
  • Withhold affirming trans kids in therapy.
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Their attempt to align sex with gender that's so blatant in the document itself, shows that they know that their arguments are ridiculous and an enforcement of a current social dynamic that is unjust and unscientific.
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And teachers aren't enforcing or encouragingly anything, to forcefully out a student to their parents or caregiver is fucking bullshit and will increase suicides, the language is overly broad as well. This would make it seem like a teacher not caring about their identity is encouragement, trash. It'd also seem in the writing that if girls dressed in boys clothes just because they like it are in a form of gender transition, that's bs (edited)
2:29 PM
Here's the people who are sponsoring it, these people are fascists, and homophobic and transphobic
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"You can't tell me to wear a mask and stop infecting my community, because my body is mine! But I can tell you, you are this gender, you may not have an abortion, and you cannot be gay!"
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Don't forget jaming god down everyones throats...
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thechromatograph3r 7/14/2022 4:40 PM
The Right knows that they'll lose a debate about their extreme anti-abortion policies, so they're falling back on their two favorite tactics: 1) go on TV to claim they've been silenced 2) attack trans people New from @MiaGingerich: https://t.co/HA7mJTQ9TM
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PrEP drugs "encourage and facilitate homosexual behavior," says Texas abortion law author Jonathan Mitchell in a federal lawsuit targeting the antiviral medications.
5:27 PM
Like actually physically ill at the thought of the kids having to suffer like this
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thechromatograph3r 7/14/2022 5:27 PM
If they think we’re gonna sit and take this shit, then they’ve got something coming. Something big
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TheAnonymousDew 7/14/2022 8:40 PM
Fundies and Evangelicals are incapable of self awareness, that's one massive thing I've learned from the rise of Trump. They supported an unrepentant adulterer, cheat, and liar. A man who's quick to anger, and is so full of vain pride that he makes fucking Kanye West look modest. A cheat who literally defrauded a children's charity. A blowhard who never turns the other cheel A guy who by all indications is the exact opposite of what a good Christian is supposed to be (edited)
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They bitch and complain about America turning away from religion, well maybe this country wouldn't be fucking turning away from religion if they weren't fucking intolerant bigots trying to use the Bible as filmsy justification to treat people they don't like, like shit and instead started preaching what Jesus actually taught
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HLMenckenFan 7/14/2022 9:19 PM
They're convinced he's their savior
9:24 PM
You might like this one
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thechromatograph3r 7/14/2022 9:42 PM
It’s on par with r/LeopardsAteMyFace
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HLMenckenFan 7/14/2022 9:44 PM
Alright
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They bitch and complain about America turning away from religion, well maybe this country wouldn't be fucking turning away from religion if they weren't fucking intolerant bigots trying to use the Bible as filmsy justification to treat people they don't like, like shit and instead started preaching what Jesus actually taught
Just like what they're doing with the constitution, any vague or nonspecific document they manipulate to their own gain and say x or y they're doing is the right way, and that whatever document they're using is proof of that (edited)
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HLMenckenFan 7/14/2022 10:21 PM
Yes
10:22 PM
They selectively ignore history to suit their ends. It's Orwellian
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thechromatograph3r 7/14/2022 10:57 PM
We’re so fucked. There’s nothing legal we can do.
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HLMenckenFan 7/14/2022 10:57 PM
I know. I'm worried about extrajudicial killings
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thechromatograph3r 7/14/2022 11:03 PM
They’re beginning now, and that’s ignoring those from cops
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HLMenckenFan 7/14/2022 11:36 PM
Indeed
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Hot take: Using religious freedom or your religion as an excuse for rejecting a vaccine or refusing to treat a patient for whatever reason is absolute bullshit
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thechromatograph3r 7/15/2022 8:42 AM
You shouldn’t be allowed to inflict your religious beliefs upon me, for that’s antithetical to the First Amendment.
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Antithetical to like... the Hippocratic oath too
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Antithetical to like... the Hippocratic oath too
thechromatograph3r 7/15/2022 9:09 AM
Just like that physician who refused to perform on an abortion on an anti-abortion hypocrite who sought one anyway. Hippocratic Oath applies in all ways.
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I always forget about the hippocratic oath, when you say your religion supercedes your patient receiving care, turn in your doctors coat and degree and find a new career. Because that's hypocrisy at it's finest (edited)
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You shouldn’t be allowed to inflict your religious beliefs upon me, for that’s antithetical to the First Amendment.
HLMenckenFan 7/15/2022 9:45 AM
It's antithetical to the Establishment Clause as well if it's done through the state (edited)
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thechromatograph3r 7/15/2022 1:20 PM
The GOP nominee for governor of Pennsylvania paid the far-right platform a $5,000 “consulting” fee. Now, new Gab accounts are automatically following him.
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A Republican state legislator's proposal would allow prosecutors from around the state to step in when local DAs refuse to press charges over abortion, as at least five Texas prosecutors have vowed.
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Fascism for real.
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MisterStompy 7/15/2022 8:35 PM
1. NEWS Biden Drops Plan to Name Anti-Abortion Lawyer Backed by McConnell as Judge Biden quietly agreed with McConnell to nominate Chad Meredith for a federal judgeship, but opposition from his fellow Kentuckian Rand Paul scuttled the deal. https://t.co/MOoaxrwMEe
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HLMenckenFan 7/15/2022 8:55 PM
r/randpaul
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MisterStompy 7/15/2022 9:07 PM
Rand Paul does like the second libertarian thing in his whole career as a senator
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HLMenckenFan 7/15/2022 9:08 PM
I used to respect the man
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TheAnonymousDew 7/15/2022 11:52 PM
My random thought, I'm sick of big corporations breaking the law and getting slaps on the wrist, you want to stop corporate malfeasance? Throw the fucking book at them
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Make an example
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Make the fines HURT
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Make an example
ᶻᵃⁿᵉ 7/15/2022 11:54 PM
Amazon selling transphobic books that support violence / mental torture methods to 'fix' trans people Amazon selling pro-confederate books (not a crime ig)
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TheAnonymousDew 7/15/2022 11:54 PM
Those technically aren't illegal
11:55 PM
BUT Amazon not paying workers at all or violating OSHA laws, those are illegal
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ᶻᵃⁿᵉ 7/15/2022 11:55 PM
Mental abuse / mental torture methods I thought were against some human right
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TheAnonymousDew 7/15/2022 11:55 PM
Yes
11:55 PM
A perfect example is fining Amazon.. $5B is nothing for them
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My random thought, I'm sick of big corporations breaking the law and getting slaps on the wrist, you want to stop corporate malfeasance? Throw the fucking book at them
ᶻᵃⁿᵉ 7/15/2022 11:55 PM
Also Oil companies / mining companies ruining towns and regions in south america and the rust belt
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TheAnonymousDew 7/15/2022 11:56 PM
You want to hold them accountable, fine them in the HUNDREDS of billions
11:56 PM
Or $7B
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ᶻᵃⁿᵉ 7/15/2022 11:56 PM
We need an anti-corruption pro-workers Bill that makes any multi-billion dollar companies make this fines work 25% more
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at LEAST
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Also tesla creating an unsafe work environment for non-white people
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TheAnonymousDew 7/15/2022 11:58 PM
Or in the case of PG&E, the company has gotten in trouble for causing the Camp Fire, yet none of their executives saw any prison time
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The Camp Fire wiped Paradise, California off the map and killed 78 people
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ᶻᵃⁿᵉ 7/15/2022 11:59 PM
I think we should ban the sponsorship of Champaigns from companies / higher ups. It is corruption, influencing the candidate
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TheAnonymousDew 7/15/2022 11:59 PM
The company was found guilty of manslaughter by a California Grand Jury, yet no executive saw any prison time
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The company was found guilty of manslaughter by a California Grand Jury, yet no executive saw any prison time
ᶻᵃⁿᵉ 7/16/2022 12:00 AM
Companies ruin lives and get away with it
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why?
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Is it because the government has a bias for the economy money makers
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TheAnonymousDew 7/16/2022 12:01 AM
Because they own Congress
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Lobbying
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Much of Corporate America has Congress in it's back pocket
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What we need is a general strike
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While I absolutely Hate Corporate America, We do not condone any type of violence in this discord.
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HLMenckenFan 7/16/2022 10:03 AM
Violence is against our goals
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One of the most significant milestones we can expect to see on the road towards a modern civil war will be activist shootings of companies which people disagree with. Quite frankly I'm expecting companies that 'went woke' to eventually be targeted for shootings by the right, and that's basically what you're advocating for, just from the opposite perspective. If radical leftist start promoting and engaging in these kind of actions, the radical right will absolutely start to retaliate with their own, and then we're trapped on a terrible path that we won't be able to get off. Our mission isn't just to defeat fascism, it's also to avert the collapse of civil society. If that eventually happens, it will happen in spite of our full efforts to stop it. We're here to pump the brakes, not accelerate. (edited)
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Not every person working in a corporation is exactly deserving of such a death either. Some of these office workers are just college grads trying to make a better living
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I'm sure that with a bit of consideration you will understand why this line of reasoning would set America on a road to doom. Would you be willing to publicly recant the ideas that you were exploring?
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HLMenckenFan 7/16/2022 1:27 PM
I like r/Qult_Headquarters
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HLMenckenFan 7/16/2022 11:59 PM
I like r/politicspeopletwitter
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thechromatograph3r 7/17/2022 5:20 PM
Don’t forget r/TrumpVirus
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ST3ALTHG1NG3R 7/17/2022 5:34 PM
I wasnt sure which channel to post this on. But reading through recent posts here this seams as good a place as any.
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That's nice and all but fascists have intertwined with politics.
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I'm not suggesting we call each other idiots because we all disagree, we can still have discourse. We can however call out people who claim to be conservatives or Republicans and ask them why the fuck they are actively supporting folks in government that are supporting fascist ideologies.
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HLMenckenFan 7/17/2022 9:32 PM
It helps
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ᶻᵃⁿᵉ 7/17/2022 10:18 PM
Anyway
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Changing one mind every day / week wont stop a hateful movement. We need a large way to tell people to stop, to convince them what their doing is more harmful
10:19 PM
But how would we do that
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Changing one mind every day / week wont stop a hateful movement. We need a large way to tell people to stop, to convince them what their doing is more harmful
How would you deal with retaliation
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Changing one mind every day / week wont stop a hateful movement. We need a large way to tell people to stop, to convince them what their doing is more harmful
One mind today, could lead to two minds tomorrow.
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One mind today, could lead to two minds tomorrow.
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how reliable is that
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Reliable enough. Again take that black musician who got people to leave the KKK.
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HLMenckenFan 7/17/2022 10:23 PM
It's a gradual process
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Don't go out there trying to convert people to the cause- start small. Make a friend, and stop them if they say something crazy. Make them question and think, but don't get pushy and rude. You might fail, you might fail 20 times. But if you can convince one person to think about what they're saying, what they want to do, and consider something more human, then you've veritably given them a fresh life.
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ᶻᵃⁿᵉ 7/17/2022 10:35 PM
The difference is, if we could start the education of an Anti-lost cause, and have it gain attention, that would change more minds then person by person
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lol
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ᶻᵃⁿᵉ 7/17/2022 10:35 PM
its the better version, starting out slow with this system can be efficient
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best of both worlds
10:35 PM
Reg is a genius
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No, I just needed some education as a child. Fortunately, I got it.
10:36 PM
Even my formerly conservative Catholic parents came around, but it took them longer.
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^ I came around, I started falling for that right wing propaganda for a few years until my friends got me out of it
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Then you all understand how easy it is for children to become militants.
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It just takes time.
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I used to be quite conservative till i finally got tired of being told about how nearly everything i was told turned out to be a fuckin lie. Became disillusioned, and started paying more attention to transcripts rather than the outrage machine that is conservative media space
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In a similar vain, I used to be on board with Jordan Peterson/Ben Shapiro fan base. Hated the whole pronouns malarkey- thought it was such a big deal at the time. Then I grew up and realised it doesn’t fuckjng matter lol
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Literally doesn't matter!
10:51 PM
Also: i have no pronouns, please do not refer to me Lol
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I have a buddy who is still all over Jordan and Ben and remains completely outraged by pronouns, and completely dismissive pf things like Nick Fuentes
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Jordan Peterson's old college lectures were genuinely good.
11:00 PM
I'm really interested in knowing what changed in his brain to completely change directions like that.
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¯\(ツ)\
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I enjoyed listening to his older stuff. It was pretty solid.
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I'm really interested in knowing what changed in his brain to completely change directions like that.
money
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HLMenckenFan 7/17/2022 11:02 PM
Peterson has become unhinged lately
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I'm really interested in knowing what changed in his brain to completely change directions like that.
They’re experts at making something out of nothing
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He fried something in there.
11:03 PM
Money is one thing, but I can't imagine it's easy to lie just for money. I'm sure he's totally into all this nonsense on his own time.
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HLMenckenFan 7/17/2022 11:05 PM
Culture warring is an effective tool for the right because it keeps their base distracted
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I hope he actually feels fear for once.
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"Ill never be a criminal if I'm president forever!"
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thechromatograph3r 7/18/2022 4:28 PM
NC Bill 158 would make it legal to murder a pregnant woman who intends to get an abortion if you are “defending the life of a baby”.
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Does NOBODY see the problem here? Does no one sense a modicum of irony here?
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RedMoonWarrior 7/18/2022 4:43 PM
Irony is lost on the insane.
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Uh, wait what
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Uh, wait what
thechromatograph3r 7/18/2022 5:40 PM
“We’re pro-life! Let’s kill any woman who tries to attempt an abortion…and kill the baby in the process!”
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“We’re pro-life! Let’s kill any woman who tries to attempt an abortion…and kill the baby in the process!”
They are not pro life they are anti-women
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They are not pro life they are anti-women
thechromatograph3r 7/18/2022 5:41 PM
Always have been
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(Hence my quotation marks)
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10 bucks says they go for women’s right to vote within the year
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10 bucks says they go for women’s right to vote within the year
This is the fear.
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This is the fear.
Exactly why we need to organize
5:49 PM
my partner is already worried I’m gonna lose my job for being a “groomer” because I’m a pansexual teacher (edited)
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10 bucks says they go for women’s right to vote within the year
thechromatograph3r 7/18/2022 5:55 PM
Now that one is far fetched—at least for now. They’ll come for same-sex marriage first, then interracial marriage, then black voting rights, and then white women’s voting rights.
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Now that one is far fetched—at least for now. They’ll come for same-sex marriage first, then interracial marriage, then black voting rights, and then white women’s voting rights.
I know what I said
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They are gonna go for that speed run world record
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Real shit how the fuck did we get here
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thechromatograph3r 7/18/2022 5:57 PM
How many Republican women would go absolutely APE SHIT over repealing their right to vote? Also, that would require a constitutional amendment, which 3/4 of states will not ratify
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Real shit how the fuck did we get here
thechromatograph3r 7/18/2022 5:58 PM
Failure of reconstruction
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How many Republican women would go absolutely APE SHIT over repealing their right to vote? Also, that would require a constitutional amendment, which 3/4 of states will not ratify
Oh I’m sure, but if we get that far, no ones gonna be able to stop them
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Failure of reconstruction
Good point
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The same surgical procedure that is used to treat a miscarriage is also used for terminating pregnancies. New Texas anti-abortion laws have doctors nervous to perform procedures for miscarriages, forcing this woman to carry her dead fetus in her womb for two weeks. CNN's Elizabeth Cohen has more.
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This is fucking disgusting.
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ST3ALTHG1NG3R 7/18/2022 6:53 PM
Anyone have a link to the article mentioned in this post regarding the brian dead Texas Woman kept on life support because she was pregnant? I found an article from 2014 but I'm not sure if it's the same case.
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thechromatograph3r
How many Republican women would go absolutely APE SHIT over repealing their right to vote? Also, that would require a constitutional amendment, which 3/4 of states will not ratify
There were women who were willing to give up their right to vote in the 2016 election if it meant trump got elected. There are just as many stupid women as there are men in this country.
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HLMenckenFan 7/18/2022 8:16 PM
WTF
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HLMenckenFan 7/18/2022 8:16 PM
wtf
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TheAnonymousDew 7/18/2022 9:11 PM
I wish there was a way to hold big social media accountable for January 6th
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HLMenckenFan 7/18/2022 9:11 PM
I'm sure it played a big role (edited)
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TheAnonymousDew 7/18/2022 9:13 PM
Like multi billion dollar fines (edited)
9:13 PM
The reason Facebook has NOT addressed the hate section of the site is because any fines they got were small enough to be considered a simply the cost of doing business (edited)
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HLMenckenFan 7/18/2022 9:15 PM
I see. I don't understand the economics of the situation
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TheAnonymousDew 7/18/2022 9:19 PM
See, Facebook makes billions per year, millions of dollars to them is chump change
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HLMenckenFan 7/18/2022 9:35 PM
Ok
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Mr.Pebbles
my partner is already worried I’m gonna lose my job for being a “groomer” because I’m a pansexual teacher (edited)
That's actually a very scary situation.
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birb
That's actually a very scary situation.
Mhm
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Stay safe, comrade.
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thechromatograph3r 7/19/2022 12:44 PM
The vote in support of Sweden and Finland's NATO applications was opposed by 18 Republicans, including some of its most far-right characters.
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thechromatograph3r 7/19/2022 1:14 PM
Why do Democrats pull stupid shit like this?!
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HLMenckenFan 7/19/2022 1:16 PM
They want to stall change from happening and lose what credibility they have left. I’m saying this as a person who has never voted the for the Democrats in my life. (edited)
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thechromatograph3r
Why do Democrats pull stupid shit like this?!
WojtektheBear 7/19/2022 2:13 PM
I keep hearing about this. How exactly did they help Mastriano?
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thechromatograph3r
Why do Democrats pull stupid shit like this?!
TheAnonymousDew 7/19/2022 2:54 PM
They learned nothing from 2016
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HLMenckenFan 7/19/2022 2:56 PM
Yes
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WojtektheBear
I keep hearing about this. How exactly did they help Mastriano?
thechromatograph3r 7/19/2022 3:01 PM
Funnelled money, encouraged strategic primary voting…
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Funnelled money, encouraged strategic primary voting…
WojtektheBear 7/19/2022 3:01 PM
Funneled money?!?
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Funneled money?!?
thechromatograph3r 7/19/2022 3:03 PM
if I remember correctly
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MisterStompy 7/19/2022 4:49 PM
BRO CONGRESS DOESN'T ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT ABORTION RIGHTS THEY'RE JUST USING IT TO RAISE MONEY VOTING DOES NOTHING https://twitter.com/AndrewSolender/status/1549445768683061249
Multiple members of Congress, including @AOC, being arrested by Capitol Police for blocking traffic outside the Supreme Court in abortion rights demonstration:
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4:49 PM
lmao they're out there actually doing shit
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Look don't get me wrong I hate the ineffectiveness of our current congress but don't sit here and tell me that letting the Republicans take complete control of the government is the punishment they deserve.
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Especially when 9 times out of 10 the "voting does nothing" people do literally nothing, and that includes going out and protesting.
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BRO CONGRESS DOESN'T ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT ABORTION RIGHTS THEY'RE JUST USING IT TO RAISE MONEY VOTING DOES NOTHING https://twitter.com/AndrewSolender/status/1549445768683061249
thechromatograph3r 7/19/2022 5:16 PM
Thisthisthisthisthis
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Thisthisthisthisthis
MisterStompy 7/19/2022 5:16 PM
idk if you know I was being sarcastic or not?
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idk if you know I was being sarcastic or not?
thechromatograph3r 7/19/2022 5:17 PM
The majority of Democrats sit there with their thumbs up their asses.
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The majority of Democrats sit there with their thumbs up their asses.
MisterStompy 7/19/2022 5:17 PM
Okay and? I'd rather have democrats with thumbs up their asses than republicans with their thumbs up my ass.
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A government that does nothing is better than a government that oppresses.
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Okay and? I'd rather have democrats with thumbs up their asses than republicans with their thumbs up my ass.
thechromatograph3r 7/19/2022 5:18 PM
I mean to say that if even half of Democrats actually got off their asses and did what these 17 did, maybe we’d be getting somewhere good for fucking once.
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I mean to say that if even half of Democrats actually got off their asses and did what these 17 did, maybe we’d be getting somewhere good for fucking once.
MisterStompy 7/19/2022 5:19 PM
Okay listen to me because I mean this unironically and I'm not being an asshole but run for local office. Like I mean it. Too many people on our side think that we need to only focus on the presidency. Like at the abortion rights rally here in Idaho I found out that only 32% of the state votes, that means that Idaho isn't a "red state", it's a state where only old racist fuckers vote. (edited)
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Okay listen to me because I mean this unironically and I'm not being an asshole but run for local office. Like I mean it. Too many people on our side think that we need to only focus on the presidency. Like at the abortion rights rally here in Idaho I found out that only 32% of the state votes, that means that Idaho isn't a "red state", it's a state where only old racist fuckers vote. (edited)
thechromatograph3r 7/19/2022 5:20 PM
Ahead of you on that thought. I’m running for local office as soon as I complete my PhD
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MisterStompy 7/19/2022 5:20 PM
It's super easy to win local elections because most people don't pay attention to those.
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Ahead of you on that thought. I’m running for local office as soon as I complete my PhD
MisterStompy 7/19/2022 5:21 PM
If you're in a red state run as a republican but switch your policies when you get elected. Do a little trolling.
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thechromatograph3r 7/19/2022 5:21 PM
The presidency is stupid. DEMOCRATS NEED TO RETAKE LEGISLATURES
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If you're in a red state run as a republican but switch your policies when you get elected. Do a little trolling.
thechromatograph3r 7/19/2022 5:21 PM
I mean, I live in Cleveland…
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MisterStompy 7/19/2022 5:21 PM
Okay
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So run as a republican for state legislature, say you're gonna send all the loose women to the furnace of hades or whatever then go "nah lmao get pranked"
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Marriage equality is a constitutional right. That’s why we must pass the Respect for Marriage Act, which enshrines and protects same-sex and interracial marriages. We owe it to families to defend their right to live freely, and prevent far-right justices from taking it away.
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I wish I was a reporter so I could go up to anybody who votes against it and say "why do you oppose interracial marriage?"
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Hunter S Thompson would have done that
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Hunter S Thompson was fucking based
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thechromatograph3r 7/19/2022 6:01 PM
267-157, House approves bill to codify same-sex marriage. Forty-seven Republicans voted for it. All NO votes were Republicans.
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MisterStompy 7/19/2022 6:14 PM
I'm amazed that many republicans voted for it
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Okay listen to me because I mean this unironically and I'm not being an asshole but run for local office. Like I mean it. Too many people on our side think that we need to only focus on the presidency. Like at the abortion rights rally here in Idaho I found out that only 32% of the state votes, that means that Idaho isn't a "red state", it's a state where only old racist fuckers vote. (edited)
Nepotism, pay-to-play, and gerrymandering stops lower class and middle class Americans from participating in their democracy. Sad but too real truth. It takes both voting and protests/direct action from our populous for change to happen.
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Americans are too asleep and reactionary(lumpenproletariat) to actively try to change their surroundings and country/government for the benefit of many. They're also too worried about being a consumer and making enough money for tomorrow or keep themselves alive to do anything.
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Due to capitalism and our shite government
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Also our founders weren't good people, but lemme stop, rip Hunter
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Americans are too asleep and reactionary(lumpenproletariat) to actively try to change their surroundings and country/government for the benefit of many. They're also too worried about being a consumer and making enough money for tomorrow or keep themselves alive to do anything.
MisterStompy 7/19/2022 6:33 PM
>They're also too worried about being a consumer and making enough money for tomorrow or keep themselves alive to do anything. Why are you using these two things interchangably?
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>They're also too worried about being a consumer and making enough money for tomorrow or keep themselves alive to do anything. Why are you using these two things interchangably?
1st one has to do with consumerism in the US, 2nd one has to do with the rising costs of everything pushed by the rich and nepotists-primarily rent and more, 3rd has to do with the medical system that puts a price tag on just living. (edited)
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1st one has to do with consumerism in the US, 2nd one has to do with the rising costs of everything pushed by the rich and nepotists-primarily rent and more, 3rd has to do with the medical system that puts a price tag on just living. (edited)
MisterStompy 7/19/2022 6:46 PM
Oh okay, thought you were trying to imply that both were equally responsible for whatever hardships they were enduring somehow
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Oh okay, thought you were trying to imply that both were equally responsible for whatever hardships they were enduring somehow
Oh no
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MisterStompy 7/19/2022 6:46 PM
I've seen that argument, I mean not from leftists usually lol
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The consumerism is in a way responsible for everything else, but is in no way tied to them directly as the rest of their hardships such as those are really just tied to the rich and capitalists
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I don't think the average American wants to pay 15k for an ambulance ride to the hospital because their heart stopped
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MisterStompy 7/19/2022 6:48 PM
I have no issue with consumerism, what I see as more damaging is conspicuous consumption and the subconcious desire a lot of people have to take part in it
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Or have their McDonald's meal be $5 while a nice salad is $50
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MisterStompy 7/19/2022 6:49 PM
you know what conspicuous consumption is right?
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Consumerism is like that always. Consumption will always be manipulated by the rich as humans have the innate desire to take part in it.
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MisterStompy 7/19/2022 6:50 PM
I mean not really? I'm personally a consumer because I want stuff not becuase I want to brag to people that I have stuff
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My most expensive shit I keep at my house, like I'm not going down the street carrying my gaming PC
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Like when people were buying way too much toilet paper during the pandemic or something excessively priced for what they need
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MisterStompy 7/19/2022 6:51 PM
Like shitting on people for having an android instead of the new iPhone 69E or whatever fucking model they're at? That's conspicuous consumption
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That's American capitalism though man.
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That's inevitably consumerism at any stage, it decays to that
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MisterStompy 7/19/2022 6:53 PM
Not if more people make fun of somebody for paying a bunch of money for something they didn't need. That's what eventually happened with Apple computers anyway
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There needs to be countershaming and bullying
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Normalize being toxic to strangers who make funny faces at you
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Not if more people make fun of somebody for paying a bunch of money for something they didn't need. That's what eventually happened with Apple computers anyway
I do that all the time, idk about you lol
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MisterStompy 7/19/2022 6:53 PM
It needs to happen more often themn
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*then
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Things are changing though, I see people bashing someone else for saying that shit all the time
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MisterStompy 7/19/2022 6:54 PM
expect iPhone sales to go down if it spreads, because for a while the only reason people were buying Macbooks wasn't because they genuinely thought they were better or easier to use but because they thought it made them look better than somebody with a Dell
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"Bro you have an android" "And? Dude idgaf, enjoy spending 20k on your iPhone 420 just for the software to brick it in 3 years" (edited)
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MisterStompy 7/19/2022 6:55 PM
It's like that to a lesser extent with iPhones too
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expect iPhone sales to go down if it spreads, because for a while the only reason people were buying Macbooks wasn't because they genuinely thought they were better or easier to use but because they thought it made them look better than somebody with a Dell
It already is, the gaming market is slated to crash in 1-2 years
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As an example
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It already is, the gaming market is slated to crash in 1-2 years
MisterStompy 7/19/2022 6:55 PM
Good tbh
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Good for consumers anyway
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Oh wait you mean the mobile gaming market?
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MisterStompy 7/19/2022 6:56 PM
Oh okay
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Regular gaming lol
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People aren't buying games like they used to, people don't want ads or pay to play on their games.
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MisterStompy 7/19/2022 6:56 PM
Yeah people don't realize that during the big gaming crash in the 80's it wasn't like people just stopped making and playing video games, it just all went to computers instead
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People are just buying old games because they're better made :/
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People aren't buying games like they used to, people don't want ads or pay to play on their games.
MisterStompy 7/19/2022 6:57 PM
Yeah people wanna shit on EA for that but it's mostly Sony and Ubisoft that are responsible for all that shit nowadays
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Yeah people don't realize that during the big gaming crash in the 80's it wasn't like people just stopped making and playing video games, it just all went to computers instead
It's going to happen again
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All game companies apart from a select few are guilty of that
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MisterStompy 7/19/2022 6:58 PM
They all tried it out but very few stuck with it
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What I'm more worried about is lowering the costs of medical, transportation, and housing/utilities than gaming tbh. Which was/is one of my points. (edited)
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MisterStompy 7/19/2022 6:59 PM
I'd argue that if more of that shit was made electric then it would be cheaper, so long as that electric was backed by Nuclear or at least Solar
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I'd argue that if more of that shit was made electric then it would be cheaper, so long as that electric was backed by Nuclear or at least Solar
Renewables for sure. But they care more about profits and privatization.
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But that solves utilities, what about housing and medical?
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MisterStompy 7/19/2022 7:03 PM
Medical like ambulances or like surgical machines?
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OR like heating hospitals?
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I think we should just build nuclear power plants literally everywhere. Put them in front of schools. Put one in my backyard, put a big sign on it.
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especially on fault zones and in tornado alley.
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Medical like ambulances or like surgical machines?
Like medical services
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We'd also be better off just not having car-intensive infrastructure. (edited)
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TheAnonymousDew 7/19/2022 7:10 PM
Another unpopular opinion: The real reason we don't have UBI is because Corporate America won't allow it
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It eliminates desperation
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Oh that's not unpopular, it's a fact
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Corporate America manipulates our government to stop anything and everything
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UBI alone doesnt solve major problems anyway imo (edited)
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Another unpopular opinion: The real reason we don't have UBI is because Corporate America won't allow it
MisterStompy 7/19/2022 7:14 PM
Had somebody try to tell me UBI was communist and I about shit my pants laughing
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UBI alone doesnt solve major problems anyway imo (edited)
TheAnonymousDew 7/19/2022 7:41 PM
No, but if take away desperation, they actually have to compete for workers
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Desperation makes people have to work bullshit jobs
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Yeah but an alternative that would have better results and/or build upon that better would be a greater unionization and democratization of the economy and government
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TheAnonymousDew 7/19/2022 8:33 PM
Why not both?
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UBI would take away the threat of homelessness that many companies rely on to keep workers in line (edited)
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TheAnonymousDew 7/19/2022 8:45 PM
@Snaggy UBI would allow more workers to tell their employers to "Fuck off"
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Corporate America manipulates our government to stop anything and everything
A political clusterfuck 7/19/2022 8:55 PM
no shit
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@Snaggy UBI would allow more workers to tell their employers to "Fuck off"
I'm of the opinion that UBI is just a fancier form of mutual aid
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no shit
You'd be surprised by how many Americans don't care about that, lumpenproletariat fr
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You'd be surprised by how many Americans don't care about that, lumpenproletariat fr
A political clusterfuck 7/19/2022 9:28 PM
I know
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its insane
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FFS one person I know(who is also a massive dick to everyone around them but thats irrelevent) literally thinks that it is the progressives fault legislation doesnt get passed by the democrats(not manchin) and that most people are actually moderate democrats
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he actually believes that shit, and even more insane, he likes manchin for some reason(of course he is also rich so it wouldnt matter for him) (edited)
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there are a surprising number of people liek this and its horrifying
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I'm of the opinion that UBI is just a fancier form of mutual aid
TheAnonymousDew 7/19/2022 9:32 PM
Perhaps. But it would give the American worker something they haven't had in years, leverage
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Perhaps. But it would give the American worker something they haven't had in years, leverage
A political clusterfuck 7/19/2022 9:32 PM
agreed
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TheAnonymousDew 7/19/2022 9:43 PM
They can tell their bosses to "Fuck off" without fear of destitution
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They can tell their bosses to "Fuck off" without fear of destitution
A political clusterfuck 7/19/2022 9:50 PM
and the best part is that it allows their bosses to pay them more as a UBI means EVERYONE gets it, including business owners, so not only might the republicans be ok with it(since it helps everyone, even the parasites which are the rich) it means small business wont die at all if they raise their workers wages
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and the best part is that it allows their bosses to pay them more as a UBI means EVERYONE gets it, including business owners, so not only might the republicans be ok with it(since it helps everyone, even the parasites which are the rich) it means small business wont die at all if they raise their workers wages
TheAnonymousDew 7/19/2022 9:50 PM
And that money goes into the economy
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Imagine when workers can put that UBI away
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To save for a vacation or whatever
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And that money goes into the economy
A political clusterfuck 7/19/2022 9:55 PM
indeed
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and allows them to pay more taxes which means we can have giant social programs AND afford the same military budget(or just reduce it to 550-620 billion rather than almost 800 billion)
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TheAnonymousDew 7/19/2022 10:10 PM
And also, allows artists to commit to it as a full time job
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TheAnonymousDew 7/19/2022 11:48 PM
Another big reform we need are Congressional Term Limits
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I think the maximum anybody should be allowed to serve in the executive and legislative branches is 16 years and 20 years for a Supreme Court Justice
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HLMenckenFan 7/19/2022 11:51 PM
good idea
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Another big reform we need are Congressional Term Limits
A political clusterfuck 7/19/2022 11:55 PM
Yes
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And make the senete a powerless house like the house of lords
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I think the maximum anybody should be allowed to serve in the executive and legislative branches is 16 years and 20 years for a Supreme Court Justice
A political clusterfuck 7/19/2022 11:56 PM
Yes
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I also think that judges should be elected by barr associations
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As to have an independent judiciary legal experts need to be in charge of selecting it, since usually they are less biased and wouldnt pick an amy coney barrett or clarence thomas, since they are legal experts first not politicians
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TheAnonymousDew 7/19/2022 11:58 PM
Yes that's a great idea
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good idea
TheAnonymousDew 7/19/2022 11:59 PM
The reason why I said 16 was to allow somebody to be a Congressman, then a Senator, and President if they so wish
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A political clusterfuck 7/19/2022 11:59 PM
Term limits for each branch should be seperate in my eyes
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But for legislative it should be 12 years(6 house terms or 2 senete terms)
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TheAnonymousDew 7/20/2022 12:00 AM
A lot of members of Congress, do often run for the Presidency though
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A political clusterfuck 7/20/2022 12:00 AM
8 for president
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Also i want a parliamentary system
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TheAnonymousDew 7/20/2022 12:00 AM
20 for the Supreme Court
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A political clusterfuck 7/20/2022 12:00 AM
Elections every 5 years
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President is cerimonial and prime minister is head of government
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TheAnonymousDew 7/20/2022 12:00 AM
Erm.. that's too much of a change
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A political clusterfuck 7/20/2022 12:01 AM
Also we need proportional representation ranked choice voting
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Also we need proportional representation ranked choice voting
TheAnonymousDew 7/20/2022 12:01 AM
Yes to that, no to a parliamentary system (edited)
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A political clusterfuck 7/20/2022 12:01 AM
To prevent two party system since that is a cause of this mess
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Yes to that, no to a parliamentary system (edited)
A political clusterfuck 7/20/2022 12:01 AM
The parliamentary system can come later then
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The voting system is enoughfkr now
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TheAnonymousDew 7/20/2022 12:01 AM
No to a parliamentary system period
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Also, allow people to recall elected officials in Congress or even the President
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TheAnonymousDew
No to a parliamentary system period
A political clusterfuck 7/20/2022 12:03 AM
Boo
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Also, allow people to recall elected officials in Congress or even the President
A political clusterfuck 7/20/2022 12:03 AM
Yes
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There needs to be a 55% threshold on that however
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A parliament or just any body of representatives for the purpose of some form of representative democracy? (Just asking for clarity)
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A parliament or just any body of representatives for the purpose of some form of representative democracy? (Just asking for clarity)
A political clusterfuck 7/20/2022 1:05 AM
i favor westminster model or bundestag model parliamentary democracy
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Fair enough, we all have our tastes.
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Fair enough, we all have our tastes.
A political clusterfuck 7/20/2022 11:10 AM
indeed
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Also we need proportional representation ranked choice voting
thechromatograph3r 7/20/2022 5:30 PM
This is one of the biggest fixes
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This is one of the biggest fixes
A political clusterfuck 7/20/2022 5:30 PM
yes
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it would fix most of our problems in congress
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not all
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but a shit ton
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Public education has failed us
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A political clusterfuck 7/21/2022 10:12 AM
Is he dumb?
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I know he is a HUGE wife beater and a close friend of trump but thats all i know
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Doctor Eval 7/21/2022 10:58 AM
The average IQ is 100, which is woefully insufficient.
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This is a weird timeline I'm in.
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A political clusterfuck 7/21/2022 1:04 PM
yes
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thechromatograph3r 7/21/2022 1:44 PM
The Right to Contraception Act passed 228-195. Just 8 Republicans joined all Democrats in supporting the measure.
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 2:45 PM
Yeah the whole part where the Sheriffs are part of the Christofascist vanguard is something I was aware of but the totality of it was nuts
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I've always liked the idea of a sheriff's than a police chief. To my understanding, a sheriff is an elected official. Police chiefs are usually appointment.
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I've always liked the idea of a sheriff's than a police chief. To my understanding, a sheriff is an elected official. Police chiefs are usually appointment.
A political clusterfuck 7/21/2022 4:41 PM
part of the issue is that in a town with a lot of christofascists, the fascists will elect a fascist as their sheriff (edited)
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which is part of the issue
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of course a chief can also be a fascist being appointed, but both have an equal chance of it
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But the people that appoint the chief are elected.
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Usually some sort of city council or a mayor.
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This becomes a problem due to favoritism or some form of bribery that helps them get into office.
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I would think at least giving the people the choice to at leave have some say on who they appoint. Using your example, if you have a fascist mayor in an area that is mostly non-fascist, now you have a fascist police chief that the public will not like.
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sans_culottes 7/21/2022 9:04 PM
I like what Finland does: they put trained professionals with degrees in charge of public safety
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Hahahahaha bro THIS FUCKING CHECKS OUT lol I've wondered this for a long time and now we fuckin know hahahahahaha Quit sweating trans dicks, y'all. The P in GOP stands for projection like every fucking time hahahahahaha https://lawsuit.org/general-law/republicans-have-an-obsession-with-transgender-pornography/
Closet Cases – Republicans secretly love what they publicly hate So far in 2022, more than 300 anti-LGBT bills have been proposed across 36 states – at least one third of which are directed at trans youth. This surge, especially in anti-trans legislation from Republicans, stands in stark contrast to a startling fact. Republicans love […]
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thechromatograph3r 7/22/2022 9:46 AM
🚨🚨🚨 Florida is attempting to do a back door ban of ALL gender affirming care by creating their own psuedo-scientific standards of care that will emphasize conversion therapy. There will be a hearing on August 5 at 8am at the Ft. Lauderdale Airport Marriot. Be there.
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thechromatograph3r 7/22/2022 12:28 PM
Angry-parents-at-school-board-meeting time
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A foreboding article I found
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Interesting
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Just read this and it is terrifying
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HLMenckenFan 7/22/2022 5:21 PM
I'm terrified.
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thechromatograph3r 7/22/2022 6:16 PM
Holy mother fucking shit
6:16 PM
It’s naked fucking fascism
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Doctor Eval 7/22/2022 6:44 PM
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Time to governate
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HLMenckenFan 7/22/2022 7:34 PM
I like the gif
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HLMenckenFan 7/22/2022 8:27 PM
Christian nationalist Tim Barton remembers hearing warnings about acid rain and a hole in the ozone layer when he was young and wonders why he doesn't hear about them anymore: "Did those things disappear or were they never the problem they were pretended to be?"
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A friend shared me a clip of this wacky guy
8:30 PM
Baked Alaska (Tim Gionet) one of the January 6 participants
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Doctor Eval 7/22/2022 8:49 PM
Is baked Alaska in jail yet?
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HLMenckenFan 7/22/2022 8:52 PM
A far-right internet personality has pleaded guilty to joining the mob that stormed the U.S. Capitol, where he streamed live video that incriminated him and other rioters.
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thechromatograph3r 7/22/2022 11:06 PM
Well, California has stooped to Texas levels of stupid by passing a gun control bill modelled after Texas' asinine abortion bounty bill.
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Maxine Waters is an idiot
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California is doing this specifically to challenge Texas.
11:36 PM
If SCOTUS shoots this down, they shoot Texas down.
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If SCOTUS shoots this down, they shoot Texas down.
thechromatograph3r 7/22/2022 11:37 PM
Except they won't. They'll make up whatever mental gymnastics they want. They don't even have to try to appear fair anymore. They don't have to even to try to pretend to be logically consistent.
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This is how you fight the law, with law.
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Doctor Eval 7/23/2022 2:28 AM
A well regulated militia being necessary for the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed
Motherfuckers never said which arms
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2:29 AM
2A isn't absolute. I can't keep and bear a thermonuclear device
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I think its important to think about the intention of the constitution
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to me its clear the framers were referring to guns, however what you bring up may show that that particular section didn't age well
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to me its clear the framers were referring to guns, however what you bring up may show that that particular section didn't age well
Doctor Eval 7/23/2022 2:53 AM
Yeah but still, never specified which guns
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thats a matter of state legislation
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C.J.
thats a matter of state legislation
Doctor Eval 7/23/2022 2:54 AM
That's just, like, your opinion bro
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Well in the constitution it says that all matters not specified in it should be left up to the states
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so I think its a pretty clear cut interpretation really
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Wether you agree with that or not is opinion
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That's just, like, your opinion bro
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thechromatograph3r 7/23/2022 11:53 AM
There is no reason that the State would want to disarm me other than control. And, with Republicans going full fascism, I'd very much like to be armed right now.
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MisterStompy 7/23/2022 11:58 AM
okay I was wrong we need government intervention in the free market and we need it now
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There is no reason that the State would want to disarm me other than control. And, with Republicans going full fascism, I'd very much like to be armed right now.
This is basically my view as well. Although it does leave me with some dissonance because of all the mass shootings in the US. My opinion is that if we had an economic system that wasn't so cutthroat but instead provided a better quality of life, we'd have less shootings
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okay I was wrong we need government intervention in the free market and we need it now
Crypto and NFT's are truly an embarrassing use of a revolutionary technology. I had hope for Bitcoin until the Treasury Dept and Wall Street turned it into speculation instead of its original intention. I even had bought some bitcoin back when it was $800 and I fucking threw away the only copy of the wallet keys after everyone in my life kept making fun of me... (edited)
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Crypto and NFT's are truly an embarrassing use of a revolutionary technology. I had hope for Bitcoin until the Treasury Dept and Wall Street turned it into speculation instead of its original intention. I even had bought some bitcoin back when it was $800 and I fucking threw away the only copy of the wallet keys after everyone in my life kept making fun of me... (edited)
That must suck
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But in the end if you are against Bitcoin then it shouldn't matter if you could've made a lot
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I never had a ton but it would have been a couple thousand dollars
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I didn't throw it away, more like I forgot about it and then realized I lost it later
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Disarming is infeasible. Too many guns are floating in criminal circles and hidden away by both legal and illegal owners. Politicians who call for disarming are naive. However, a lot of gun violence is preventable. Holding parents responsible, educating children, better mental healthcare, therapists in our schools, better paid and trained teachers with smaller classroom sizes, would all have a profound effect across our society. Bullying and abusive households create school shooters, and a kid with mental issues is going to be bullied.
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Overall, better mental healthcare would help stop many adult mass shootings, but stopping a gun owner from shooting someone is not controllable. We can only mitigate the outliers.
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I mean, look at Canada- more relaxed gun laws yet far less mass shootings
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I would say the reason for that is better culture/mental health
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A couple literally bought their kid a gun and encouraged him to go show his classmates who's boss. They are uneducated, they probably should have flunked out of school. They probably had issues growing up and no mental care from a councilor or therapist. They knew to try to hide their crime, they knew it was bad, they did it anyway. Better healthcare and schools would have helped them decades ago.
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TheAnonymousDew 7/23/2022 1:30 PM
America's new slogan should be "If you're not rich, go fuck yourself"
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Corvo I have an idea, if the parents give a child with a history of mental health problems a firearm, and the child commits a mass shooting, they should be considered accomplices
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I mean what's the legality of gifting a child a gun anyway
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You mean, personal responsibility, Dew? lol (edited)
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A judge has ordered the parents of a 15-year-old boy charged with killing four students at his Michigan high school to stand trial on involuntary manslaughter charges
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You mean, personal responsibility, Dew? lol (edited)
TheAnonymousDew 7/23/2022 1:35 PM
Yes
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I will note, the kid got in trouble for looking up bullets on a school computer. I personally don't feel like that in itself should be a problem, because me and my friends drew pictures of tanks and battles all the time, typically stick figure stuff. 😅
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But he had plenty of other symptoms of mental illness that were wholly ignored.
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Plus there are kids that age who do go hunting with their parents. We can separate that if we focus on education and mental health. Politicians will want to pick one little thing to focus on to fight, ignoring the bigger picture. We need gun control! To a degree, but we need education and mental care more. And, justice for those who failed to do their duty. Gun owners have a responsibility, parents even moreso. They failed their child, they failed their community.
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The richest country in the world is the only country that has mass shootings in these numbers. This can be mitigated.
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This is basically my view as well. Although it does leave me with some dissonance because of all the mass shootings in the US. My opinion is that if we had an economic system that wasn't so cutthroat but instead provided a better quality of life, we'd have less shootings
thechromatograph3r 7/23/2022 3:03 PM
100%. We’d have less crime if we actually had a system that cared for the poor and homeless instead of criminalizing them. And, if we took RWE seriously, we’d catch these fucks before they shoot
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I will note, the kid got in trouble for looking up bullets on a school computer. I personally don't feel like that in itself should be a problem, because me and my friends drew pictures of tanks and battles all the time, typically stick figure stuff. 😅
thechromatograph3r 7/23/2022 3:05 PM
Yea, this shit is ridiculous. Some buddies and I got in trouble for using finger guns at the playground. Also, remember that kid who was suspended for biting a fucking PopTart into vaguely the shape of a pistol?
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Right, that's fucking stupid.
3:05 PM
Demonizing things we embrace as a culture instead of focusing on mental health.
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Corvo I have an idea, if the parents give a child with a history of mental health problems a firearm, and the child commits a mass shooting, they should be considered accomplices
thechromatograph3r 7/23/2022 3:05 PM
There need to be caveats to that
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We have John Wick 5 coming out and we expect young boys to not watch it, and not want to pretend they're in The Matrix at recess, or not a Jedi deflecting blaster bolts.
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We glorify our military but oh no, the kid drew a tank!
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Violent video games are to blame, ignore the schizo kid hearing voices getting bullied at school, and the parents who refuse to lock up their guns. (edited)
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thechromatograph3r 7/23/2022 3:07 PM
OHHHHH DON’T GET ME STARTED ON “”””VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES””””
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Violent emoji reactions are to blame.
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There need to be caveats to that
The only caveat, is if the kid got a gun through some other source, like theft or drug trade or so on. If the parents own the firearm, they had a responsibility to secure. If the kid got his buddies to bust the safe out of the house and then drill it open to get the gun, the parents would then be free to claim they did everything they could. Getting the kid mental health care should have happened well before then.
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There are serious issues with red flag laws in the same way that there are serious problems with other forms of gun control. It basically mirrors the war on drugs as a political tool. Those in power are incentivized to criminalize the things common to their opponents. And then to systemically frame their opponents as dangerous criminals who cannot be allowed civil rights. Today Marijuana or opium, tomorrow we criminalize adhd or autism.
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The only caveat, is if the kid got a gun through some other source, like theft or drug trade or so on. If the parents own the firearm, they had a responsibility to secure. If the kid got his buddies to bust the safe out of the house and then drill it open to get the gun, the parents would then be free to claim they did everything they could. Getting the kid mental health care should have happened well before then.
TheAnonymousDew 7/23/2022 3:13 PM
That's very reasonable
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The only caveat, is if the kid got a gun through some other source, like theft or drug trade or so on. If the parents own the firearm, they had a responsibility to secure. If the kid got his buddies to bust the safe out of the house and then drill it open to get the gun, the parents would then be free to claim they did everything they could. Getting the kid mental health care should have happened well before then.
Responsibility to secure is also a complicated issue, most of the south keeps a firearm propped behind their front door or next to their armchair for home defense. We're also really damn good at educating kids about firearm safety, but if your teenager decides to grab it and go commit a murder, I feel like that's on them. 16 year olds can buy rifles & shotguns in most states. I know that's not a very popular sentiment among mainstream libs, but it's a reality for most of us. I know that the fire triangle for mass murderers is opportunity, ability, & justification. But I feel like it creates an undue burden on law abiding people to only slow down the ability for people to commit shootings.
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Children are not legally capable of making decisions. They do not have all the rights of an adult, and they are not held to the same standards as adults. The adults are the ones responsible for their children. It takes 1 time for a child to grab an available weapon and murder someone. How many times was that person's home invaded? Was it really worth it?
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Buy a better door. Guard your windows. Get external cameras and lighting. Give yourself a few more seconds to get your weapon from it's secured location.
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If someone breaks in, your gun is right there for them, too. (edited)
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How many law-abiding gun owners have their weapons stolen and then used for criminal activities? All because "but my defense."
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You're thinking about this in terms of break ins, that's not what most home self defense is. I live in the country, we have coyotes, big cats, & bears. I don't have time to spend 3 minutes unlocking my safe when I need to go save my livestock. I've shot more wild dogs than I can keep track of, usually because they've attacked a child. My doorbell ringing after dark is just as often a neighbor who needs help hauling garbage as it is somebody intoxicated looking to start something after wandering down the highway from the casino on foot. Being able to answer my door anytime of day to anyone makes it easier for me to help my community. I can let people in, feed tjem, sober them up & get them somewhere safe. If I didn't have a gun in easy reach I'd have to turn them away without cracking my door & call the sherrif a good chunk of the time.
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If you timed it, I bet you'd get that thing open and load your gun in less than 30 seconds. If you're really that nervous, practice and get faster. Rural living can be a different ball game, yes. If you're concerned about fortifying and defending your property, you should invest in cameras and external lighting. Again, give yourself time to react. If having a gun accessible is your first and only choice, you're ignoring all other considerations and dangers and not taking any other measures. Hard to believe home defense is the top priority, when all other options and considerations are nil. (edited)
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That's a really classist & privileged position. A shotgun is $200, a safe that a toddler can't open by accident is hundreds more. cameras, fences, & lighting aren't an option for most people in the way you're thinking. Self defense is for everyone, even the people living in trailer houses barely making ends meet. Maybe especially them. It's not about going into every situation with the intent to kill someone for moving wrong, it's about having a way to survive when everything else didn't work or wasn't an option.
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If you own livestock, you have financial capacity. You're not poor and living in a trailer. If you can't afford to maintain security over your weapons, you sure as hell cannot afford to enable your kid to take people's lives.
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What costs more, a safe, or someone's life?
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What is more important, a cow, or someone's life?
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If you need a gun to protect your livestock, you can afford a safe. Practice to get faster. If you live in a trailer, and you have a gun by the door, you're just an easy mark for criminals, and potentially enabling your kid.
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Regardless of all this, better mental healthcare is how we stop it before it gets to that point.
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Until then, we need to secure our weapons.
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Keep a pellet or airsoft gun for snakes and coyotes, drunks from the casino don't like getting shot by those either. (edited)
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Look, all I said was, we need to secure our weapons. You said securing them was not an option, because you need to be fast. I said if speed is your concern, invest in a security system to give yourself more time, and practice opening your safe. If you're really that nervous about safety, you'll gladly practice and maintain security over your weapons. Calling me privileged and classist is rude, but also tells me you're missing the point. Secure your weapons. Practice, if you need to be fast. That should be enough. You're just arguing culture and tradition at this point.
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At least a key trigger lock. It's better than nothing and takes seconds to remove.
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Child firearm-related mortality rates, 2010, 2015, and 2019.
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Behold, tradition and culture taking precedence.
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Holy shit the south has high numbers (edited)
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At least their homes were defended.
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At least their homes were defended.
Sorta. I've seen videos of kids accidentally shooting themselves at home.
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The document includes suicides, yes.
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Which, the weapon being accessible, doesn't help anyway. (edited)
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Not suicides though. Accidental.
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Ah, ye.
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Kids get curious. They don't know better.
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That good southern firearm education in action.
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Also, imagine if we weren't so politically divided against each other, but rather had at least some commonly shared culture or identity among everyone, instead of everyone having an "other" to blame for everything. The political rhetoric is insane right now. When really it's always been nothing but a class war where the vast majority of us are in the same boat and would benefit from the same solutions
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no war but the class war my dudes
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Plenty of southern gun owners who advocate for responsible gun ownership, including securing your firearms to keep them from being accessible.
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American gun ownership should be synonymous with responsible gun ownership. We shouldn't be losing to Swiss and Israelis on who is the most responsible with their firearms. (edited)
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But culture and tradition want to argue that a safe is too expensive, that it takes too long in an emergency, that they've had guns on the mantle for generations. Meanwhile, the statistics show double the number of child casualties.
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Human lives cost more than any safe. If you're afraid of being too slow to respond, practice. The military drills for a reason, so should you. If you actually give a damn, do something about it instead of generate excuses.
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Take responsibility. (edited)
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TheAnonymousDew 7/23/2022 7:50 PM
I have no problems with RESPONSIBLE gun ownership
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Yeah, pretty sure we were discussing what responsible entails. 👍
8:19 PM
I'm all for guns, but you need to do it right.
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NEW: Trump is going to promote a “Schedule F” executive order in a speech tonight, saying that if he wins a second term he will take more power for the presidency and use it to purge the federal government of civil servants. https://t.co/p9epOvMWZi
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thechromatograph3r 7/23/2022 10:44 PM
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/23/2022 10:48 PM
Wait, he's actually going to discuss the quiet part outloud at a rally?
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The mask is so broken, it may as well be off
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Black Magic 7/24/2022 12:19 PM
I am writing a Political Manifesto
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One that is garunteed not to be popular
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Will you release it once it's finished?
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Black Magic 7/24/2022 12:38 PM
yes.
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I am for example, calling for a Universal militia
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Black Magic
I am writing a Political Manifesto
Doctor Eval 7/24/2022 1:06 PM
Make sure that you mention that there can be no functional society without a foundation of truth and honesty
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Black Magic 7/24/2022 1:07 PM
That's a good terminology.
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Black Magic
That's a good terminology.
Doctor Eval 7/24/2022 1:08 PM
"shared objective reality" is another good one
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Black Magic 7/24/2022 1:09 PM
Probably not.
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I have to keep deleting paragraphs in the preface because I find myself constantly coming back to something like a national detox.
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A product of a kind of rage that while justified, can't be allowed into the work.
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Doctor Eval 7/24/2022 1:24 PM
I mean...
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Black Magic 7/24/2022 1:24 PM
This is a Manifesto about solving problems. Solutions to problems are not always at first desirable, like pulling a tooth or paying to fix a burst pipe; important and necessary tasks but undesirable at the same time. To be better, to have a better life, we must at times do things which are hard, and which require an investment of our time and energy. This is true of personal hygiene, it’s true of maintaining our technology that enables us to live comfortably and it’s true of our national body as well. We, Americans, are a people struggling with depression and anxiety, a people who need to help themselves desperately, while those very tools needed to do so are actively hindering our progress. This is the reality we must contend with and the paradox we must overcome. By example, it is EASY to write an endless list of grievances with the way things are, and who is to blame for the way things are. So easy, that this very preface you read now had to be rewritten no fewer than a dozen times; but this is a work about solutions. You cannot solve problems by endlessly complaining about them and seeking out who is to blame for them. That behavior, while natural, is at best unproductive.
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That's the current version of the preface. (edited)
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Black Magic
I am writing a Political Manifesto
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TheAnonymousDew 7/24/2022 4:07 PM
We need a Worker's Bill of Rights here
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We need a Worker's Bill of Rights here
WojtektheBear 7/24/2022 4:19 PM
You know I’m not necessarily opposed but I’d want Unions to be involved and not rush it
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Unions are not always on the side of the workers.
4:21 PM
Well, let me say instead
4:22 PM
Sometimes the boss is able to get his lackey to be the Union Rep
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Other times, the Union is happy to fight for the worker's, but not if the government gets involved.
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So if OSHA has to inspect a workplace because someone was killed in an accident, the Union will not cooperate 100% because they don't want to force employees to give their accounts of what happened.
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An easy example are movie unions, specifically IATSE, who is so afraid of their people being blacklisted, that they insist on handling everything as minimally as possible.
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Which can somewhat hamper OSHA's ability to act.
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BUT, those are fairly niche scenarios. Yes, we should comment on worker's rights. Yes, involve some Unions. (edited)
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You know I’m not necessarily opposed but I’d want Unions to be involved and not rush it
TheAnonymousDew 7/24/2022 4:56 PM
Here's the rough premise 1. Every person has a right to equal and equitable treatment and freedom from discrimination. 2. Every person has a right to living and working conditions that are both physically and mentally safe, including the right to refuse unsafe work without reprisal. 3. Every person has a right to receive fair resources that meets their needs (food, housing, clothing, healthcare, transportation), provides some discretionary income, and which rises automatically with inflation, regardless of their ability to work (disabled, elderly, children). 4. Every person has a right to leisure time, including paid annual leave and a healthy work/life balance (limits on the hours that can be worked per day, per week, and the number of days that can be worked in a row without time off). As well as a right of refusal for overtime 5. Every person has a right to their health, including paid sick time off, the freedom to use sick time on short notice without conditions or reprisal, and access to affordable healthcare regardless of their employment. 6. All workers have the right to organize, bargain collectively, and strike without reprisal. 7. All people and all work are worthy of dignity and respect. (edited)
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Paid sick leave would never pass for the regular laborer. Sick leave, as much as they need and without consequence, should be the focus.
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Every business would fight that.
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The ability to earn paid sick leave, sure. But not blanket "all sick leave is paid sick leave."
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TheAnonymousDew 7/24/2022 5:02 PM
Better idea
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As for everything else?
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Fair wages vs. resources. You don't want business to choose where you get your groceries, only that they compensate you fairly.
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TheAnonymousDew 7/24/2022 5:03 PM
8). The right to work from home where feasible
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Fair wages vs. resources. You don't want business to choose where you get your groceries, only that they compensate you fairly.
TheAnonymousDew 7/24/2022 5:03 PM
Yes I can agree with that
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I think as a very basic sort of thing, yes, this is fine.
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I would specify, "Employees have a right to not be reprimanded, disciplined, or terminated, for declining to work overtime hours."
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Overtime should be a favor to the boss, who pays you extra. Not a mandatory "tough shit, you're working this weekend or else" kind of thing.
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I would also add "Part time employees working over 20 hours a week have a right to benefits." and leave it at that until we get a Union guy is here to word it properly.
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Too many employers advertise "we pay 20 hours for full-time" and then only hire people to work like 36 hours or some shit and pay them 12. (edited)
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I would also add "Part time employees working over 20 hours a week have a right to benefits." and leave it at that until we get a Union guy is here to word it properly.
TheAnonymousDew 7/24/2022 5:29 PM
I can agree there
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And if a company fires you, you have a right to appeal.
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Ehhhhh, I dunno.
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We have Whistle-blower act for unjust terminations.
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TheAnonymousDew 7/24/2022 5:30 PM
Hm..
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I see
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Some people are pieces of shit who deserve to be sacked. (edited)
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TheAnonymousDew 7/24/2022 5:31 PM
Yes that is true
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I mean, imagine willingly employing a fascist. kek
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TheAnonymousDew 7/24/2022 5:31 PM
XD
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We already covered totalitarian bosses
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I mean, imagine willingly employing a fascist. kek
They do enjoy licking boots...
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Other times, the Union is happy to fight for the worker's, but not if the government gets involved.
thechromatograph3r 7/24/2022 5:37 PM
This is why you need national sectorial bargaining. Increasing unions and removing right-to-work (read: “right to fire”) laws, along with with bargaining wages, are able to settle supply and demand. Sector-based unions handle wage negotiation, which means there's no requirement for a minimum wage, since everyone will be part of some union. The reason wages are so low in America is because you ask, by yourself, a company for a raise, they can tell you to buzz off. This is because, even if you leave, they can replace one person easily. A lot of employers will also lie, telling employees they're not allowed to discuss wages. Such rules are illegal. But in the Nordic countries, almost everyone is unionized, and they can bargain those raises collectively. This time, if the company says to buzz off, the union workforce grinds the place to a halt. Now no one gets paid. Essentially, if you have a minimum wage, you create a negotiated bottom. Employers will hug that bottom as much as possible. With additional unions and negotiations, wages will eventually settle to their actual market rate. As a result, there's no need for the State (i.e. government) to threaten a company with a minimum wage when the workers themselves will leave if they don't get what they're after. Ironically enough, the Nordic model if capitalism is more significantly more small-L libertarian than what 'small-govt' conservatives in the U.S. propose. In fact, the Nordic model is literally the opposite of socialism since it’s allowing the free market to set prices. Also weird that we don’t have a sovereign wealth fund with how many resources we have Essentially investments made at the national level to protect the nations long term financial interests, something countries with a lot of oil tend to do. Profits can be used for social services and improve quality of life
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TheAnonymousDew 7/24/2022 6:18 PM
Problem is small gov conservatives want corporate control
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They're full of shit
6:20 PM
Another thing I learned to stop corporate fuckery, you need to make the consequences as dire as possible
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So nobody would dare
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Slaps on the wrist can be deducted as cost of doing business
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You need to make the fines HURT
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Unfortunately OSHA is limited by Congress.
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TheAnonymousDew 7/24/2022 6:25 PM
I know
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Black Magic 7/24/2022 11:35 PM
My reforms will essestially create a Military state.
11:35 PM
Hinging on the idea of a Universal militia
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I am proposing something distinctly , authoritarian and going to great lengths to still make it Anti-fascist.
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expressly rejecting ehtno-nationalism to the point that my reformed constitution has a right to not be discriminated against
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full stop.
11:38 PM
Still, I don't expect to be popular after publishing it.
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Black Magic
Still, I don't expect to be popular after publishing it.
Post it in #memes when you're done and you're golden.
11:44 PM
The Iron Front is opposed to authoritarianism.
11:44 PM
Democracy, fair, equal, and just, is the only way to maintain balance and protect liberty.
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sans_culottes 7/24/2022 11:45 PM
Authoritarianism is cringe and will lead humanity to collective suicide.
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Authoritarianism, whether left, right, or center, is the opposite of freedom and justice. One person or group cannot be held above the others, one person or group cannot change the rules on a whim.
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11:46 PM
I understand you enjoyed Starship Troopers but nobody here wants to read your pro-authoritarian manifesto.
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Black Magic 7/24/2022 11:47 PM
Not.. necessarily.
11:48 PM
Let's start with what we mean by freedom
11:48 PM
in what context
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sans_culottes 7/24/2022 11:49 PM
Freedom is the social condition of having substantive responsible autonomy.
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Black Magic 7/24/2022 11:49 PM
Economic? Social? All of it? are you free if you can start a business easily, are you free if you live a comfortable life with few obstructions / restrictions..
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If you use your freedoms to gain power, say by forming a corporation which is sucessful, than use the freedom to spend money how you wish to buy politicians to give you more "freedom" .... are we really still talking about freedom..
11:51 PM
It's a trap. you don't need to answer
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sans_culottes 7/24/2022 11:51 PM
I believe you are free when you have the substantive ability to self-actualization and exist in a social polity that recognizes and fosters that in its citizens.
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The very concept of buying politicians is not compatible with democracy.
11:51 PM
So, your example is fundamentally bound to societal norms right now, and not the ideals for which we strive.
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sans_culottes
I believe you are free when you have the substantive ability to self-actualization and exist in a social polity that recognizes and fosters that in its citizens.
Black Magic 7/24/2022 11:51 PM
I agree.
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Black Magic
I agree.
sans_culottes 7/24/2022 11:52 PM
And that ain’t capitalism or authorarian states that do that.
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Black Magic 7/24/2022 11:53 PM
Capitalism is a machine, and it's i effect a second system that has to interact with our socio-political system
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Jimmy Carter went back to his peanut farm. That is a man who respects democracy.
11:53 PM
Yeah, fuck capitalism.
11:53 PM
I'm for Democracy, not Capitalism.
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Black Magic 7/24/2022 11:54 PM
You are going to be some degree of capitalist as its commonly understood, if you are going to be free.
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Corporate power has no business determining how society operates. Corruption and greed, they hold onto their billions while education and healthcare suffer.
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Black Magic 7/24/2022 11:54 PM
Indeed
11:54 PM
So we are agreed on the problem and on some terms.
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Oh, sure.
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You are going to be some degree of capitalist as its commonly understood, if you are going to be free.
sans_culottes 7/24/2022 11:55 PM
This is my point: merchants have no more right to rule the rest of us than the kings and priests before them. Kindergarten teachers and firefighters and fast food workers and garbage men should run the government. Ala sortition.
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Black Magic 7/24/2022 11:56 PM
The sin of modern American capitalism... which is a distinct breed of capitalism on its own; is that it allowed thw wealthy to be.. seperate
11:57 PM
It created a situation where people could exercise power, without taking responsibility.
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sans_culottes 7/24/2022 11:57 PM
It’s the end outcome of capitalism so long as you allow essentially feudal economic fiefdoms
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You want commas, not ellipses.
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Black Magic 7/24/2022 11:58 PM
My soution is a literal military state, but one that maintains its core democratic republican structure.
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Because that's definitely worked in the past.
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Black Magic 7/24/2022 11:58 PM
The Universal militia, means everyone serves in some capacity
11:59 PM
and yes.. actually it has
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sans_culottes 7/24/2022 11:59 PM
Heh, good luck with that. Military states always get caught in dictatorship traps and shit with their neighbors
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No, it hasn't, Napoleon.
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Black Magic 7/24/2022 11:59 PM
Napoleon killed the revolution; Napoleon saved the revolution. (edited)
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:00 AM
A universal service criteria does not a military state make: Switzerland is a direct democracy with a civilian subordinate military.
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And universal conscription
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:00 AM
Much in that sense. But I want state control of education.
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Keeping your military on a short leash and out of political power is the only way to prevent the rise of a dictator, who will use force to achieve his goals. You're literally advocating for an authoritarian state backed by martial power. That is incompatible with democracy, full stop. (edited)
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:00 AM
Akin to how japanese education is organized.
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Your manifesto is a power fantasy.
12:01 AM
Keep your kinks to yourself.
12:01 AM
The Iron Front is for democracy, not authoritarianism.
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Black Magic
Akin to how japanese education is organized.
sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:01 AM
Why would you go for one of the failing education systems rather than say Finland?
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:01 AM
I will confess that I am writing based on a few assumptions about what the future is going to be like,
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Now you're prophet.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:02 AM
More like, I am reading the writing on the wall and assuming things will continue on their present course
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:02 AM
Shits gonna be bad yo, but I’d throw Molotov’s at your authoritarian state.
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More like, you're taking cues from doomsayers and fantasizing a world that you can conquer.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:03 AM
Vaguely; we are in alot of trouble for basic life support. I fully expect clean water and food to become... if not fully scarse, much harder to get.
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You want commas, not ellipses.
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Ellipses...don't make you... sound smarter.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:03 AM
I am deliberately emphasizing the pauses.
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It is deliberately grammatically incorrect and cringe.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:04 AM
Sieg hiel.. 😄
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This isn't the edgelord's roleplay server.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:04 AM
Grammar nazi joke
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Now you're a comedian.
12:05 AM
Like I said, put your manifesto in #memes and we'll all get along.
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Black Magic
Sieg hiel.. 😄
sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:05 AM
@samlovespossums Nazi advocating for authoritarianism
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:05 AM
So look, I am not edge lording, and you have me at a disadvantage
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I am trying to beifly outline an idea that is complicated and I have justifactions for
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samlovespossums 7/25/2022 12:05 AM
dude you are incredibly unfunny
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I'm pro-NATO, but I'm not for political power in the hands of the military. I am for democracy, not wishful idealism of some saving conqueror.
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sans_culottes
@samlovespossums Nazi advocating for authoritarianism
samlovespossums 7/25/2022 12:06 AM
think he’s just a fuckin dork lmao
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:06 AM
Maybe the fault is mine for using the term Military state, when that's an over simplification.
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Authoritarianism is incompatible with democracy. Fascists can justify anything.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:07 AM
I don't think that's true either.
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samlovespossums
think he’s just a fuckin dork lmao
sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:07 AM
Eh, you let one in making “jokes” and soon your server is swimming in them. I’ve been online since AOL charged by the hour.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:07 AM
Authoritarianism is a gradient
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sans_culottes
Eh, you let one in making “jokes” and soon your server is swimming in them. I’ve been online since AOL charged by the hour.
It was a very poor taste joke, I would agree with sam on that one. It just sucks for humor.
12:07 AM
Tone deaf, maybe.
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:07 AM
Same way your local dive bar turns into a Nazi bar
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:07 AM
Libertarianism has proven to be extremely incompatible, when paired with right wing politics.
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Like an pro-authoritarian in a pro-democracy server.
12:08 AM
Literal opposites.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:08 AM
Litterally not.
12:09 AM
Define democracy.
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I wasn't aware that the power of the few was synonymous with the power of the many.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:10 AM
Authoritarianism , in its most base form, is the advocacy for centralized power structures.
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It's the opposite of anarachy, or you can argue it's the opposite of liberalism
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But you can have conservative ( small c) democracies. we were one for a very long time.
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:11 AM
Centralization, so long as the power structure is democratically ruled, is not a priori authoritarian, but it should be looked at with defacto suspicion.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:12 AM
A huge problem we have in America is being TOO decentralized.
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:13 AM
Rail infrastructure is a good candidate for a case where centralization of standards is a good thing.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:13 AM
power is spread too thinly; on the social side while being too economically concentrated, and those two things should be tought of seperately
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Well, he forgot a qualifier. Military Authoritarianism is centralized power in the hands of the military, a fairly closed-off group of people. Aka, a junta.
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12:13 AM
So, a dictatorship. Oligarchy.
12:13 AM
Opposite of Democracy.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:13 AM
Any crazy whack job can over run a local school board and cause absolute havoc.
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Or write a manifesto.
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Black Magic
Any crazy whack job can over run a local school board and cause absolute havoc.
sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:14 AM
This is because of the weakness of American social institutions and the fact that it is not nor ever has been a real democracy, it’s structurally designed for minority rule.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:14 AM
But to be clear what I mean about a Military state; is a statist power structure in which all citizens serve. The universla militia comes with a number of benefits and trade offs.
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I am also pairing it with Humanism
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:15 AM
Humans are cringe
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:15 AM
a right to work; a rejection of automation
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A bill of rights that expressly rejects ethno nationalism
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Okay, well, have fun writing your novel. Just remember one of our arrows is literally against authoritarianism.
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:16 AM
You’re literally describing Starship Troopers or even Utopia, save your ink.
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You will not find an audience here.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:16 AM
Our world is about to fall apart.
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:16 AM
No shit.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:17 AM
it's been trying to shake it self apart for years.. we're all mounted on the tip of a rocket ship that is trying to blow it self apart, and has no control stick 😄 what other mataphor can I use for " royally fucked"
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:17 AM
And you think repeating the power structures that have been repeated the last 10,000 years that lead us to this point, is going to save us? You’re not getting on the fukkin ark by brownnosing brown shirts.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:18 AM
10,000 years is alot of time to buy
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That's not what he said.
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:18 AM
Hahahaha, we ain’t got that, and she please.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:18 AM
Humans are cringe, as you said
12:19 AM
we basically suck, and there's no way to elimate that suckage.
12:19 AM
it can be controlled though
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Sounds like goose-stepping to me.
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:19 AM
Oh their is, but it requires a full rejection of Cartesian realism, and human-centric thinking
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Good thing we have a savior who is willing to come up with how he can save us from ourselves by wielding absolute military power.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:20 AM
I won't deny its statist, but I do reject any fascist moniker and I will fight you over it.
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Nah, I expect to be dead by the time anyone reads the book, if any one actually does.
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Just what we need, a pro-authoritarian humble enough to recognize that he has the secret to controlling humanity's sins.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:21 AM
The Moment Desantis proclaims himself president for life.. or what ever the fuck is going through his head... I will do my absolute best to put a bullet through it.
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Eager to advocate for violence, too.
12:21 AM
Good trait for a pro-authoritarian.
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:21 AM
Fedposting for the win
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:22 AM
and I expect to die in the attempt. I know that sounds like edgelord wanking, but I am serious about it.
12:22 AM
My political views are complicated
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Perhaps lets tone down the premeditated murder talk
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Martyrized-authoritarian military power fantasy confirmed.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:22 AM
bah
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Humbug indeed. The Iron Front is against authoritarianism, regardless of what ideals it proposes to support.
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and I expect to die in the attempt. I know that sounds like edgelord wanking, but I am serious about it.
sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:23 AM
Well your right about it being edgelord wanking: if you actually wanted to fight the rising authoritarianism and collapse of the institutions of the American state: you would be advocating for and building dual power structures democratically ran for the peoples benefit at your local level.
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Left, right, or center, authoritarianism is incompatible with democracy and a fair and just society.
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:24 AM
Forget about your manifesto and go work at a soup kitchen, larper (edited)
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:24 AM
People are fundamentally greedy, and if you create a system with loppholes, they will find those loopholes and exploit them.
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So lets give greedy people big guns and absolute, central power.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:25 AM
Lets create a system that holds them responsible for the power they wield. (edited)
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That's democracy.
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:25 AM
People are fundamentally greedy: Wikipedia, open source software, Gilea, 4 Thieves Vinegar Collective, the polio vaccine…. (edited)
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That's a working justice system, non-corporate funded politicians, and equal rights.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:26 AM
Are you ready for this conversation to get a little weirder?
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No, I'm ready for bed.
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:26 AM
Libgen, Zlibrary, Pirate Bay,….
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:27 AM
My view, at it's core, is that we face a cross roads with 3 paths we can take.. two of which are viable.
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The third path is to do nothing
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Continue to kick the can down the road until the can flips off the wall we hit and smacks us in the face.. than we hit that wall. Full stop, game over, no more humans. In other words, Do-nothing third path is a non option
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:28 AM
We are actively doing worse than nothing, but retreating into authoritarian nation states is simply going to prolong our suffering and doom us.
12:29 AM
Humanity can ill afford oligarchy and authoritarianism anymore.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:30 AM
We can go right, and create a authoritarian state, the safest option to continuing Humanity, and buying us time to set shit right. Taking control of natural resources, natiolizing vital "commodities" and de-commodifying necessities.
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Or we can go left. Embrace Automation.. fully automated luxury space communism
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"You see, when I narrow down our options to 3 arbitrary routes of my choosing, two of which I've decided are automatic failures, you will find the final solution I've come up with is our best choice, out of the ones I provided. Obviously you should agree."
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:31 AM
There's alot of forks off those 3 paths
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but basically, broadly, I beleive those are the 3 options
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The goal posts doth shifteth
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We can go right, and create a authoritarian state, the safest option to continuing Humanity, and buying us time to set shit right. Taking control of natural resources, natiolizing vital "commodities" and de-commodifying necessities.
sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:31 AM
And if we do that we end up doing multi-polar resource wars over dwindling resources and go the way of the dinosaurs. Have fun with that.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:32 AM
We either go for socialist anarchy, or centrist,statist,authoritarian republicanism. And yes, Republicanism is a valid species of Democracy
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Either of those paths are viable in my view.
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Option 4 is we colonize Mars and create a new society and eventually get embroiled in a brutal interplanetary war with old conservative Earthlings until we achieve Solar Dominance and ascend to a galactic-scale playing field.
12:33 AM
I should write a manifesto on this.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:33 AM
we COULD be socialist anarchistic.. but I don't think we will be.
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Regnion
Option 4 is we colonize Mars and create a new society and eventually get embroiled in a brutal interplanetary war with old conservative Earthlings until we achieve Solar Dominance and ascend to a galactic-scale playing field.
sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:33 AM
Praise the Omnissah!
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Oh no, I would never wage war with Holy Terra. sobs
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Black Magic
we COULD be socialist anarchistic.. but I don't think we will be.
sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:33 AM
You’d be cooler if you did, just sayin.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:34 AM
maybe.
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Personally I'm not pro-anarchy, but I sure as shit ain't pro-authoritarian.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:34 AM
The world we live in is going to become a harder, meaner place, and its likely that none of us softies will do well in it.
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:34 AM
I’m trying to build Fully Automagic Luxurious Gay Space Hoboism
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I want to arm the raccoons
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Our precious gays strike fear into the hearts of the vatniks, well done.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:35 AM
fo'sho
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Regnion
The goal posts doth shifteth
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sans_culottes
I want to arm the raccoons
If raccoons were as big as bears, i wouldnt live in the woods
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Nomad
If raccoons were as big as bears, i wouldnt live in the woods
sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:37 AM
I would, I’d just make friends with the bastards and make wars on the city with them
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Leave a trail of treats leading to town
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Raccoons don't want to destroy society, they love cookies.
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:38 AM
If they were as big as bears they would
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They'd just eat a lot of cookies.
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:39 AM
And humanity would resort to the cookie clicker timeline to keep the raccoon menace at bay
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Well this went off topic pretty quickly
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It's that, or...
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:40 AM
Hahaha
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:41 AM
Oh by the way, did you guys see the post that break down internet searches and proves that Deep red states are obsessed with trans-porn. (edited)
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Black Magic
Oh by the way, did you guys see the post that break down internet searches and proves that Deep red states are obsessed with trans-porn. (edited)
sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:41 AM
Yes I have met chasers
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:41 AM
They're closested and self loathing, and that's hillarious.
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#general-chat maybe?
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:43 AM
Anyways; you mentioned Starship trooper. Heinlein was also, a strange guy.
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:44 AM
Water is wet, yes
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:44 AM
I can relate to being strange. My views are nuanced, and if Heinlein and I did agree on anything it would be the nature of responsbility
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:46 AM
' If you wield power, you must also be responsible for using it. If you are responsible without power, that is cruelty. If you are powerful without responsibility, that is insanity. ' (edited)
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"My views are nuanced. People are animals and we need a military junta to force them to live a certain way."
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Nomad
If raccoons were as big as bears, i wouldnt live in the woods
Doctor Eval 7/25/2022 12:46 AM
I just learned today that raccoons are basically tiny bears
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All the grace and complexity of a sledge hammer.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:47 AM
More like, we need a system that instills responsibility; and it's too important to be left upto every couple of whack job that can produce a baby.
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Have you been in the military?
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Doctor Eval 7/25/2022 12:48 AM
What happened to the idea of rights equals responsibilities?
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:48 AM
You have the right and responsibility to lick deez.
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Doctor Eval 7/25/2022 12:48 AM
Seems to me like the overarching narrative of the right leaning moderate, and right leaning people in general, is that they want all of the rights and none of the responsibilities
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:48 AM
No, I was rejected due ot hearing loss for full disclosure. and Before you accuse me larping; I don't.. nor do I envy those that do/did serve.
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I never accused you of anything.
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But the military isn't some responsibility-infusing organization you make it out to be.
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Doctor Eval 7/25/2022 12:49 AM
They try to be
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It's up to the individual, and for them to be educated.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:49 AM
They do try.
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Doctor Eval 7/25/2022 12:49 AM
They present themselves as such
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Again, it's up to education to instill that.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:49 AM
Education is the polite term for social-engineering.
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Not enlisting.
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Black Magic
Education is the polite term for social-engineering.
Doctor Eval 7/25/2022 12:49 AM
That's gonna be a fuck off from me dawg
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:50 AM
You have to train people to be responsible,
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The military does not do that.
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:50 AM
Hahahahaha. This is funny
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They train people. Responsibility is up to the individual.
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You know how many jackasses kept getting fucking drunk and getting us all in trouble?
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Marines keep raping Japanese girls in Okinawa.
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The military is not a silver bullet.
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Education is.
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:51 AM
Most humans that think they are responsible, are just blotting out some portion of their life to get through the day.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:51 AM
What human doesn't?
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Now you see your flaw.
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Black Magic
What human doesn't?
sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:51 AM
A rare few, I’ve met some. They’re like unicorns tho.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:52 AM
I kind of do, honestly.
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Instilling power in the military, which is manned with humans, is a bad fucking idea.
12:52 AM
Democracy is fair and balanced. Power in the hands of the few is incompatible with democracy. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:52 AM
A militant ideal- which is being a little too utopian.
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:52 AM
Anyone who wants to put the military in charge has never been in the military or been a civilian contractor with a budget
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We can hold each other accountable by voting, not by giving the guys with tanks the fucking throne.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:53 AM
The military was never the real object of this structure.
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Right, just a military authoritarian government...
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SI SI SI SI SI SI SI🗿SI SI SI SI SI SI SI
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:54 AM
Militant, but, the more I talk about it, the more I realize I was being a little too utopian, with this almost star-trek like idea of what a militant organization could be.
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:56 AM
Stick to cool Utopianism, like me? I want to put a hoarder trailer on the moon and build a meth lab in the Sea of Tranquility and fire off my shotgun screaming at martians to get off my lawn.
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The militant organization you want
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The militant organization you get (edited)
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:58 AM
The core of the problem remains... The wealthy, in a deregulated, libertarian ,leze-faire (spelling) system; became detached from the consequences of their actions.
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:58 AM
My brother in Christ, read the bread book.
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Laissez.
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The French in shambles
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 12:58 AM
Conquest of bread?
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Read it.
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 12:59 AM
Yes
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Okay, read the Ecology of Freedom next
12:59 AM
And also Discipline and Punishment and the Birth of the Clinic
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Read the Ugly Americans too
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I don't think anyone here is calling for any specific model of government. All we want is a functioning democracy, no corruption, education and healthcare, wholly secular government, freedom of speech and religion, equal rights, and equal opportunities.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 1:01 AM
ah the old 'don't talk to me until you've read [library of dusty long dead socialists]' Do you even Trotsky,bro?
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 1:01 AM
And since you’re a fukkin statist: Read Seeing Like a State
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Ah the old "I only see 3 routes, and the winner is military authoritarianism, because I see no other options so I must be right."
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Must be right indeed. smug
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ah the old 'don't talk to me until you've read [library of dusty long dead socialists]' Do you even Trotsky,bro?
sans_culottes 7/25/2022 1:02 AM
Seeing like a state was written by a lib btw. Still good unintentional Anarchist theory
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 1:02 AM
I will make this prediction, for certainty.. Life is going to suck REALLY hard for alot of people, in side the next 5-years.
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forget what the moron nazis in tampa do.. we're fucked on food and water.
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Good thing General Scheisskopf is gunna make it better with his fucking tanks.
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I will make this prediction, for certainty.. Life is going to suck REALLY hard for alot of people, in side the next 5-years.
sans_culottes 7/25/2022 1:03 AM
Again, water is wet and we are in the crumbles. The solution is not to put a boot on the face of humanity forever.
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Good thing General Scheisskopf is gunna make it better with his fucking tanks.
sans_culottes 7/25/2022 1:04 AM
I’m going to combine the 10 billion bunkers of Enver Hoxua with the nuclear armed dolphins of Posada.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 1:04 AM
Put on the boots, and wear them with pride. Humans need to be trained, and that training needs to be social as well as academic.
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you can, in-fact, be a well educated shit head; if you've ever been a college campus you know this... thus the education as silver bullet is none sense. (edited)
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 1:04 AM
You can also be a well educated but very dumb person.
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If you think you can instill not being a shithead with an authoritarian regime of state ideology, lmao
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you can, in-fact, be a well educated shit head; if you've ever been a college campus you know this... thus the education as silver bullet is none sense. (edited)
So now you're anti-education.
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You can also be a well educated but very dumb person.
I know doctors who cant change a tire (edited)
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Also, bold of you to assume "college" is education.
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College is a part of education. Education includes what your parents teach you.
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I know doctors who cant change a tire (edited)
sans_culottes 7/25/2022 1:06 AM
Fukkin doctors don’t even know how to gas jug smdh
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"The military isn't a good choice, we should focus on education." "Wrong, you can be educated and dumb, I win."
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Enjoy your junta.
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 1:07 AM
The card says moops @Regnion
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 1:08 AM
Reality resists simplicity
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 1:08 AM
A military state is a simple and stupid idea.
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It’s literally the origin of the state
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 1:09 AM
Counter balancing systems are required, and a democratic power structure can and will exist at the core of any American reformist state, that's worth having.
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Civilian control of the military is easy if there essentially are no civilians.
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Practicing your double-speak so early, I'm proud of you.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 1:10 AM
The meaning is plain and obvious.
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You still think the military is some sort of miracle.
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I mean, I jack off to the F-35 too, but
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 1:11 AM
No, and I confess to being a little too utopian in my estimation of it, but iperfect as it is, there is still alot worthy of emulation.
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The military is fundamentally, technocratic.
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Spoken like a true civilian.
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The only good thing the military does, is practice equal rights.
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I mean, I jack off to the F-35 too, but
sans_culottes 7/25/2022 1:12 AM
Imagine not jacking off to the F-15 or Su-27 instead smdh
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And they fucking suck at it, by the way. They suck at protecting women who have been assaulted.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 1:12 AM
The military is very adaptve, especially the American military, lagely because they constantly get feed back.
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They're not, at all, perfect, nor are they held accountable.
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Have yall like ... Been in the military? Cause i am sitting here right now and dont wish it upon anyone lol
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F-16 crew chief.
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And they fucking suck at it, by the way. They suck at protecting women who have been assaulted.
sans_culottes 7/25/2022 1:13 AM
And keeping out drug rings and gangs, they suck at that too
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 1:13 AM
Let me counter than with this,
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Assume I am correct about coming scarsity. Which is a safe bet.
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Scarcity has jack shit to do with Democracy. Authoritarianism isn't inherently more capable of addressing scarcity. But sure, go ahead.
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Unless you mean, easier to shoot people when you have the tanks and seize their supplies, then yeah you're right.
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Assume I am correct about coming scarsity. Which is a safe bet.
I agree, food prices already suck and are predicted to suck more
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But thats not a great time to accept a militarized ruling class
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 1:15 AM
I will expand on it more spefically. There will be actual starvation in some, mostly, rural, mostly poor areas. Calorie deficits in most places, due to both price and availability.
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So feed them lead, brilliant.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 1:15 AM
Crops are beggining to outright fail, and will get worse
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Crops are beggining to fail, present day.
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Black Magic
Crops are beggining to outright fail, and will get worse
sans_culottes 7/25/2022 1:16 AM
And I will go straight Apache on your militarized state 🙂
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 1:16 AM
Some cities in the mid west that today house millions, will be unihabitable in a few years time.. water will just not be available.
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In some spots that's already the case.
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 1:17 AM
You are absolutely correct.
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Can you hurry up and state your counter already, we don't need a doomsday novel.
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The asphalt buckled under the heat of the blazing sun... Yeah yeah, get on.
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 1:17 AM
I’m going to listen to more 100gecs
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 1:17 AM
When millions of people are displaced, starving and thirsty.. do you think they are going to have the capacity to make well reasoned decissions or hear rational debate.
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come to consensus on isssues?
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So you do want to shoot them, cool.
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Or otherwise exclude them.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 1:18 AM
No, but there will be alot of shooting.. and the shit people will do to survive will scar them for ever.
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"Report your calorie intake. If it is less than 1,500, you are not permitted to vote and lose your rights, until you can return to civilized standards. Failure to comply will result in immediate incarceration."
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"You're dehydrated. Your opinion is hereby rejected. You are deemed mentally unfit. Your children shall become wards of the state, as you cannot be relied on to care for them."
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 1:20 AM
Eco-fash.
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Authoritarianism, left, right, or center, is the enemy.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 1:21 AM
Eco-fash are hillarious; and mostly trolls.. or people who did way to much acid.
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Who are you to judge who is capable of voting or not?
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Who are you to deprive them of their rights?
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 1:22 AM
What if I want to deprive you of the right to Put undisclosed ingredients in the food your serving?
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am I still a fash?
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The right to not label the food you sell to consumers. 🤣
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They had that ability. Thousands died.
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That is where that right comes from.
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Eco-fash are hillarious; and mostly trolls.. or people who did way to much acid.
sans_culottes 7/25/2022 1:22 AM
There’s a rising strain of eco-fash that are rebranding under the moniker “civic nationalism”
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From the blood of innocents.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 1:22 AM
What if I want to deprive you of the liberty to deceptively advertise, or create shcemes that encourage waste of product because its MORE profitable for you.
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Corporations, unacountable, unelected, detached from consquences.
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I think you're saying people have a right to destroy or harm others or the environment, when you just said you're all about responsibility.
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 1:23 AM
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 1:24 AM
What I am saying is libertarianism is none sense
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Education, is how we stop people from doing harm.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 1:24 AM
Apologies if I am not being clear about that
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Who the fuck said anything about Libertarianism?
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 1:24 AM
Right libertarianism is nonsense.
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Socialist libertarianism is pretty fukkin based.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 1:26 AM
I am seizing that meme of production.
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If people are educated, taught what it means to be responsible, taught why we need to care for our planet and for one another, you wouldn't need to deprive anyone of anything.
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You're arguing the use of force to control the masses who you deem unfit to contribute.
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You are against democracy.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 1:28 AM
I am arguing for a systems of structure and hierarchy. Those systems were created because they are a natural way for humans to think and organize, and have proven effective.
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"Structure and hierarchy" so classism, oligarchy, the few rule the many.
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"It's only natural"
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The fascists always speak their mind at some point.
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Why are you in this server?
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 1:29 AM
Few always rule the many, even in decentralized, distributed systems.
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Black Magic
I am arguing for a systems of structure and hierarchy. Those systems were created because they are a natural way for humans to think and organize, and have proven effective.
sans_culottes 7/25/2022 1:30 AM
Those systems are the ones that humanity has been using the majority of civilization, and they got us to this stupid fucking timeline and you think doubling down on it is the solution. Like I’m a dumb fucking wizard, but you are clearly far dumber.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 1:30 AM
the difference is that distributed and decentralized systems have yet to prove stable in any real world context.
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In a Democracy, the few are chosen and replaced. Ours is broken, but the ideal is what we strive for.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 1:30 AM
But you did not deny the point.
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What point?
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 1:30 AM
So the few do rule the many, and we're aruging over how they're chosen
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You've never heard "too many cooks in the kitchen"? That's not a call for authoritarianism, that's just efficient government.
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Direct democracy exists, too, but that's a tough nut to crack.
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You want to dictate how they're chosen. I say, we elect them.
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That's the difference.
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 1:31 AM
The only authority I’m ever going to respect is mi madre, puto.
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You want to limit your pool. Who is a candidate, and, who can vote. That is your argument.
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You want to reduce it to a small group of people, armed, and pick who gets to vote.
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Fuck off.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 1:32 AM
Yes. I do generally want to exclude none-serious people form holding pwoer
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And you ask how I can tell who isn't serious? what gives me the right?
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This asshole is my answer to both questions.
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 1:33 AM
I want to exclude authoritarian sociopaths from power.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 1:34 AM
You don't get to shrug off a major systemic failure of your chosen political ideology and claim it wasn't REALLY the thing you want because it failed.
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Black Magic
You don't get to shrug off a major systemic failure of your chosen political ideology and claim it wasn't REALLY the thing you want because it failed.
Yet here you are, calling for authoritarianism.
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 1:35 AM
In reality, decentralized systems require too many complex secondary incentive structures to function.
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Black Magic
You don't get to shrug off a major systemic failure of your chosen political ideology and claim it wasn't REALLY the thing you want because it failed.
sans_culottes 7/25/2022 1:35 AM
Uh? Where have I done that?
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 1:35 AM
Reg has. (edited)
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I like how I seem to have a political ideology now.
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 1:36 AM
So far as I’ve seen Reg has argued for democracy and you’ve used an example of a shitbird from a non-functioning oligarchy
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Black Magic 7/25/2022 1:36 AM
Besides, Authoritarianism is a Gradient, and democracy is a purely mechanical vehicle for soci-political systems... it has no ideaology of its own
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Only a fascist points at failure and claims the only solution is their own absolute rule, how they see fit. They won't attempt to fix the system, they won't fight the failure, they'll just say they deserve power and have the ability, the right, to make decisions for us.
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At least one of these three arrows is for you.
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Besides, Authoritarianism is a Gradient, and democracy is a purely mechanical vehicle for soci-political systems... it has no ideaology of its own
sans_culottes 7/25/2022 1:37 AM
._. What? Who, the wha? You think democracy is purely mechanical and has no ideology? I don’t know what would possess someone of such a brain dead opinion.
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I'm going to bed. I've said my piece.
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sans_culottes 7/25/2022 1:38 AM
The very essence of the ideology of democracy is very easily summed up: the ability to to tell your boss to fucking sit and spin.
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Doctor Eval 7/25/2022 2:11 AM
When Trump said "grab em by the pussy", i used to joke that he's a sexual socialist seizing the means of reproduction
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When Trump said "grab em by the pussy", i used to joke that he's a sexual socialist seizing the means of reproduction
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When Trump said "grab em by the pussy", i used to joke that he's a sexual socialist seizing the means of reproduction
WojtektheBear 7/25/2022 11:39 AM
Lol I also made this joke
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jesus what a roller coaster this chat is
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Braakinthesaddle 7/25/2022 2:21 PM
Username checks out lol Vive la Révolution
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thechromatograph3r 7/25/2022 5:34 PM
God fucking damn it, Democrats. STOP doing this shit! https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/25/house-dems-meijer-gop-primary-00047750
It's the latest example of Democratic groups boosting pro-Trump candidates in GOP primaries, thinking they'd be easier to beat in the fall.
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God fucking damn it, Democrats. STOP doing this shit! https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/25/house-dems-meijer-gop-primary-00047750
Politicians, creating Polarization & hoping that they (as functional moderates) will win? It's like they're losing on purpose 😪 (edited)
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Politicians, creating Polarization & hoping that they (as functional moderates) will win? It's like they're losing on purpose 😪 (edited)
thechromatograph3r 7/26/2022 12:58 PM
Democrats are so GOOD at it
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MisterStompy 7/26/2022 1:26 PM
Two years later, Bob The Tomato still has one of the greatest videos about the history of racial inequality in America https://youtu.be/AGUwcs9qJXY
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Just want to encourage all of you to sign up to be election officers for the upcoming midterms. Very important that we catch and expose any attempts to cheat.
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The National Guard has already been pinged to assist in election support, so PLEASE do go volunteer. They need help
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Braakinthesaddle 7/26/2022 3:24 PM
I tried to get a temp job as a driver for the Maricopa County elections board. Would have ended just in time for school to start. Never even heard from em.
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Just want to encourage all of you to sign up to be election officers for the upcoming midterms. Very important that we catch and expose any attempts to cheat.
thechromatograph3r 7/26/2022 5:00 PM
Y’also get paaaaid
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Sho nuff
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thechromatograph3r 7/26/2022 7:46 PM
Conservatives in several Georgia counties are using the state's voting law, Senate Bill 202, to challenge the eligibility of thousands of registered voters. The law allowed residents to file an unlimited number of challenges to voters' qualifications.
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Doctor Eval 7/26/2022 9:41 PM
Where do you go to apply to become an election officer?
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I'm going to encounter a shit ton of Republicans if I do that gig.
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I'm not sure if I can handle being exposed for such a long period without imploding
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Where do you go to apply to become an election officer?
WojtektheBear 7/26/2022 11:05 PM
State elections site
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Look for the volunteers section (edited)
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Democrats are so GOOD at it
They do it because they don't like non-status quoists in positions of power, it's why they sidelined Bernie and the South Texas progressive with an anti-choice DINO who's held a seat for 30+ years
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Nothing is going to fucking change in those areas and nothing is going to improve
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They do it because they don't like non-status quoists in positions of power, it's why they sidelined Bernie and the South Texas progressive with an anti-choice DINO who's held a seat for 30+ years
Doctor Eval 7/27/2022 4:55 AM
"First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season."
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"First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season."
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Yep, I have pictures of that
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"First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season."
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Here's a similar one
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Doctor Eval 7/27/2022 4:57 AM
I like these
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Thank you
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Thank you
You're welcome, I have plenty as I always strive to educate myself on all things and wish to pass that onto others
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This is what they're going for guys, please please please please take note (edited)
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You may like this one @Doctor Eval
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You may like this one @Doctor Eval
Doctor Eval 7/27/2022 5:08 AM
What can i say? I just like the guy
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What can i say? I just like the guy
If you like him you would love:
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Damn
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If it weren't such a horrifying mask off time for the Republicans, I'd be laughing my ass off
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Where do you go to apply to become an election officer?
thechromatograph3r 7/27/2022 9:27 AM
Go to your county’s board of elections website. They’re always looking for workers. It’s a loooooong day, though. (edited)
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I'm going to encounter a shit ton of Republicans if I do that gig.
thechromatograph3r 7/27/2022 9:31 AM
I know in Ohio you need to have a certain number of workers from different parties at each location. Texas might be different.
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I'm going to encounter a shit ton of Republicans if I do that gig.
I was concerned about that as well because my county clerk is a Republican. I originally applied several months ago and never heard anything, and my conspiracy brain thought, "Ah they saw I'm registered as a Democrat and they tossed my application." But I recently applied again and got a pretty timely response, an email from the "Democratic Election Officer Recruitment Administrator" in the county clerks office. So they have representation for both Dem and Rep, possibly Independents as well. But come Game Day yes I am expecting to deal with some QAnon fuckers and I'm going to shut their asses down.
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I was concerned about that as well because my county clerk is a Republican. I originally applied several months ago and never heard anything, and my conspiracy brain thought, "Ah they saw I'm registered as a Democrat and they tossed my application." But I recently applied again and got a pretty timely response, an email from the "Democratic Election Officer Recruitment Administrator" in the county clerks office. So they have representation for both Dem and Rep, possibly Independents as well. But come Game Day yes I am expecting to deal with some QAnon fuckers and I'm going to shut their asses down.
thechromatograph3r 7/27/2022 1:47 PM
If you see any funny business on the part of voters or election officials, you have every right to report that shit. And if they try to retaliate, it'll just reveal the depth of corruption.
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"First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season."
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Wait, Reverend King, why are you talking about my family?
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thechromatograph3r 7/27/2022 7:57 PM
I don't want to hear from a Republican ever again that the GOP "supports the troops." https://twitter.com/CraigCaplan/status/1552416287887867906
55-42: Senate BLOCKS the House-passed bill expanding access to VA healthcare and disability benefits for veterans exposed to toxins during their military service (PACT Act) from advancing to final passage. 60 votes were needed.
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I don't want to hear from a Republican ever again that the GOP "supports the troops." https://twitter.com/CraigCaplan/status/1552416287887867906
TheAnonymousDew 7/27/2022 8:17 PM
Oh they support them, as expendable cannon fodder (edited)
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HLMenckenFan 7/27/2022 9:45 PM
Hungary's controversial prime minister is coming to the U.S. to address a gathering of conservative activists.
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This is scary to me
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MisterStompy 7/27/2022 10:27 PM
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dark brandon strikes again
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thechromatograph3r 7/28/2022 1:43 PM
“If this is America First, then America is fucked.” Take 10 minutes to watch Jon Stewart tear into Republicans for blocking a Senate bill providing benefits to veterans, including for those exposed to burn pits.
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Are they gonna start with the Sacklers?
HLMenckenFan 7/28/2022 3:03 PM
No
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The post was removed by the mods of Libertarian. Damn it.
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I don't want to hear from a Republican ever again that the GOP "supports the troops." https://twitter.com/CraigCaplan/status/1552416287887867906
That's ridiculous. 42? That means 3 didn't even show up to work or filibustered
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What's the possibility of Jon Stewart running for office as a dem or independent? Lol
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thechromatograph3r 7/28/2022 6:22 PM
Stewart: Wtf are we… They’re on Senate time. Senate time is ridiculous. These motherfuckers live to 200. They’re tortoises.
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thechromatograph3r 7/28/2022 6:29 PM
Florida's Department of Education has issued a memo today stating that Florida schools should ignore new USDA guidance saying schools cannot discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity in light of Bostock. This is legally, factually, and morally wrong.
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Are they gonna start with the Sacklers?
Kerrisdale Capital founder Sahm Adrangi was released on $1,000 bail and had his license suspended after he allegedly refused to take a breath test.
Congressman Trey Radel isn’t the first politician to make headlines from white lines
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thechromatograph3r 7/28/2022 7:30 PM
I mean, I don't care if people do cocaine, but I do think that anybody who votes against decriminalization and/or would arrest anyone who uses cocaine should themselves be arrested.
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thechromatograph3r 7/28/2022 8:14 PM
The Florida DOE just released a TERRIBLE new memo. It tells all schools that it can discriminate against transgender students by banning them from bathrooms, locker rooms, sports, and field trips. It also threatens them that if they don't, they may be breaking the law!
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8:14 PM
Seriously, though, FL needs to calm the fuck down
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HLMenckenFan 7/28/2022 9:44 PM
For sure
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Seriously, though, FL needs to calm the fuck down
Most of that stuff is just virtue signaling as different school districts in Florida have different laws when it comes to that, and every teacher(i know a few personally) when they sign on(at least in my district) sign a form every year for standing up for inclusivity and education at every level in schools (edited)
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They have little authority at that level and can only really mess with education and specific programs for schooling
11:20 PM
Like the POS no child left behind program
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MisterStompy 7/29/2022 1:36 PM
Before vs. after your son-in-law’s investment firm gets $2 billion from the Saudis
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I thought Hunter Biden was behind 9/11?
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I thought Hunter Biden was behind 9/11?
thechromatograph3r 7/29/2022 3:10 PM
Nah, everyone knows it was W.
3:10 PM
Florida Republican candidate Laura Loomer blasted Steve Bannon for spinning MAGA as “diverse” and “inclusive.” Loomer: “Diversity is not our strength. In fact, diversity kills. Diversity is lethal.”
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3:10 PM
Going full mask-off
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thechromatograph3r 7/29/2022 3:26 PM
The anti-abortion amendment in Kansas - which seeks to strip existing abortion protections from the state constitution - is beyond slimy wording. They’re desperately trying to confuse people.
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3:31 PM
Do you understand what is happening? This has nothing to do with encouraging girls to be athletes. This is totalitarianism. It is the white nationalist agenda. The anti-LGBTQ agenda. The anti-abortion agenda. It is all the same agenda. This is real. Shared with permission.
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MisterStompy 7/29/2022 6:25 PM
Black Hammer is apparently a Russian funded op https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1553087394886197248
This "U.S. Political Group 2" in the Ionov indictment is clearly Black Hammer.
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6:26 PM
For those who don't know, Black Hammer is an all black tankie/Nazbol group that started the whole "Anne Frank was a colonizer" schtick back in around 2019, and even made an attempt to have an alliance with the Proud Boys
6:32 PM
We need to look into Russia possibly funding other tankie groups, I imagine most of those "patsoc" guys get blank checks from the FSB
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NEW from @W_F_Thomas. Inside the cult that is Black Hammer—where abuse, threats, rape, and kidnapping ran rampant. https://t.co/i5ABnqkSUU
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I've never heard of this group before but thank f--- I've never been a tankie
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MisterStompy 7/29/2022 6:35 PM
I mean Black Hammer has always been completely fucking bonkers but I didn't know it got to like Jonestown level craziness. In all fairness, most other tankies started shitting on them after they pulled a couple stunts buying farmland to try and create an ethnostate or whatever (edited)
6:37 PM
If you're interested in helping one of their victims, you can donate to them https://twitter.com/AtlantaJustice/status/1549499113858912256
Please RT, even if you can't donate. Details in the comments.
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6:39 PM
The Black Hammer Party, an Atlanta-based radical group with a cult flavor, is implicated in a Justice Department indictment as part of a Russian influence scheme. https://t.co/U5Fi04MnvS
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6:42 PM
If you know anyone in danger of being recruited by Black Hammer -- who have in particular been targeting Atlanta's houseless community -- please share this informational flyer with them. https://t.co/8rHFK1PdFk The file can be downloaded at: https://t.co/hzU2kk4veP
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Wait, did they say Atlanta-based????
6:47 PM
@MisterStompy
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Wait, did they say Atlanta-based????
MisterStompy 7/29/2022 6:48 PM
They have chapters all over, but yes they started in Atlanta. I'm not entirely sure how crazy the other chapters are
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I was on a field trip to Atlanta a few years ago
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MisterStompy 7/29/2022 6:52 PM
Apparently there was a shootout with cops last week because they kidnapped some woman and tried brainwash her into their little cult
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Did they manage to save her?..
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MisterStompy 7/29/2022 6:57 PM
It looks like it, yeah
6:58 PM
The only death was one guy shooting himself in the head, he was a member of the group
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thechromatograph3r 7/29/2022 7:11 PM
Damn. My dad left at the right time, then. He left B of A in 2019
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 7:32 PM
Democrats pushed a last minute bill to ban "assault" weapons and criminalize their ownership.
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A move that put me in a spot where I cannot support the only Non-fascist political party in the U.S.
7:34 PM
How are any of you handeling this?
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I am nauseous at the thought of relying on a republican filibuster in the senate. They've been talking about getting rid of it a little too much for me to sleep well knowing what might come in the next few weeks.
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Considering you, Black magic, has actively advocated for a military dictatorship against the ideals of the Iron front, you are in no position to complain you hypocrite.
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 7:45 PM
Two things.
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A. I am failing to tell you exactly what I want to. But yes, I am advocating for a statist solultion.
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Authoritarianism is not the same as fascism.
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Authoritarianism still is antithetical to the Iron front's goal of maintaining democracy. You are no better than the right in that both you and them want to end America's democratic experiment
7:49 PM
You deserve to be stripped of your position as a server booster
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 7:49 PM
I am still a Democrat. Unless you want to argue that Republicanism is not a species of Democracy
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inwhich case... there ALMOST are no democracies.
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U.S. Politics are so fucked up that it's easy to forget what those words actually mean.
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Oh bloody really? Remember this?
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 7:51 PM
Yes.
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You're a closet authoritarian.
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 7:51 PM
Not closeted at all.
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Oh finally, your mask has finally come off. As Reg said, why the f--- are you still here?
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 7:52 PM
I want the Federal government to be restructured, but I want a stronger Fed, with clearer mandates.
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Not closeted at all, democrats are authoritarian
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 7:53 PM
I want a State that partciapates in Social engineering, the way just about any European nation does.
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As for why I am still here.... if there really is a Conflict with Fascists, we'll need to settle what ever differences we have later.
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First off, I'm a Democrat but I'm not an authoritarian. Second off, you're directly contradicting your prior posts on this discord
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 7:54 PM
No, I am consitent, but my views are nuanced and complicated.
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Sure doesn't sound like it to me.
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 7:55 PM
I don't trust anyone that can sum up their opinion in less than a paragraph.
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Unless their opinion is " I don't know enough to have an informed opinion."
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Ok then, how about this: I believe that democracy must be maintained at all costs. Coming from an ex-trumpist we must do everything needed to keep them and other authoritarians from power again. We need to stop generalization (looking at you Nomad), and we need to stop authoritarians from continuing what the Republicans are starting. (Looking at you black magic)
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Authoritarianism bad because I believe in a voluntarist ethical framework. Individual freedom & enlightened economic cooperation will bring about the ideal society. Land ownership is sketchy when land is scarce so we should probably communalize it in some way & then rent it out for a profit that will fund a UBI, Ideally operated by private organizations without the involvement or existence of a state. Do I win the one paragraph award?
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 8:03 PM
I am a Republican, I believe in a rule of law; and I am fiercely in favor of purging the government of its officers, Corruption is in my view, one of the highest crimes. I do want the state to be more involved, I want Public education restored, and reformed, with programs that tech Children not just academic or work related skills, but also moral skills. I want a State that has pride in itself, and a sense of duty and purpose. Republicanism IS democracy. Checks and Balances ARE the way we protect democracy from its own worst impulses.
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I do want a Universal militia, I support a more active role for the military in our culture, not just worship of the military but military values.
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I am not blind in any of my assertions and I am aware of the trade offs.
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I am a Republican, I believe in a rule of law; and I am fiercely in favor of purging the government of its officers, Corruption is in my view, one of the highest crimes. I do want the state to be more involved, I want Public education restored, and reformed, with programs that tech Children not just academic or work related skills, but also moral skills. I want a State that has pride in itself, and a sense of duty and purpose. Republicanism IS democracy. Checks and Balances ARE the way we protect democracy from its own worst impulses.
What do you mean by "moral skills"
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 8:07 PM
Discipline, honor, bravery. To have pride in both yourself and the communities you are a part of.
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Decency has to be taught, Cunning has to be trained, Wisdom has to be earned. If you want a Wise, Sharp, descent people, you need a Education system that impresses that on them from the start.
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All those are subjective and exploitable.
8:09 PM
You are now slated for execution for lack of moral skills.
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 8:09 PM
Which is why you.. and pardon by French, need to Cut-the-fucking-head-off, of anyone that sufficiently fucks it up.
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Decency is one of those slippery words that usually means "things or people that I don't like" when you start talking about politics or Morality
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 8:10 PM
Corruption is a crime for which there needs to be a scorched earth aproach
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Which is why you.. and pardon by French, need to Cut-the-fucking-head-off, of anyone that sufficiently fucks it up.
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Something something he who is without guilt cast the first molotov something something
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Ok then, how about this: I believe that democracy must be maintained at all costs. Coming from an ex-trumpist we must do everything needed to keep them and other authoritarians from power again. We need to stop generalization (looking at you Nomad), and we need to stop authoritarians from continuing what the Republicans are starting. (Looking at you black magic)
Looking at me? What democrats arent authoritarian?
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If I identify as a non-authoritarian Democrat you lose.
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And I too identify as a non-authoritarian democrat
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 8:13 PM
Jesus takes a stand over the woman who is to be stoned, infront fo the crowd, he says " let ye who is without sin cast the first stone... the crowd stops... a little old ady drags this huge stone over her head walking towards jesus.. Jesus says again " LET YYYYEEEEE who is without sin cast the first stone." Old lady keeps coming with this huge rock over her head.... than Jesus sayd " Let ye---" woman crashes the big stone down on the womans head nad kills her... Jesus looks to the old lady " Mother, you're impossible."
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Well to be clear I said if, I adhere to no labels beyond "dangerously cheesy." (edited)
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I'm planning on voting for blue candidates this year, but in a very reluctant where is my party of human rights & industrial engineering style government with functional metrics, accountability, and iterative policy improvements.
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I mean it's either the fascists, the non-fascists, or whoever the Libertarians are pushing.
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 8:15 PM
We're also entering aworld that is going to be much harsher, and less caring.
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Decency has to be taught, Cunning has to be trained, Wisdom has to be earned. If you want a Wise, Sharp, descent people, you need a Education system that impresses that on them from the start.
In my opinion, "moral skills" are best informed by teaching of critical thinking and kindness, and encouraging kids to examine a wide range of moral viewpoints, so they may make more informed decisions for themselves. But I believe in American individualism, and I believe personal morals should be up to the person, not the state.
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Libertarians got taken over by the mises caucus, they're now the ✨️sparkling✨️ authoritarian(theocracy mode) option for some insane reason.
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 8:16 PM
Any two-bit,flunkies can knock their junk together and make a kid.. but who takes responsibility? sure as fuck not them
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Our world is sociopathic and fucked because there is a lack of dicipline and responsibility in the public.. and the government can't help but reflect who we are as a people, back at us.
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Don't like that reflection? ... sucks. (edited)
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And I too identify as a non-authoritarian democrat
You identify, but can you identify any policies to back it up too?
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Our world is sociopathic and fucked because there is a lack of dicipline and responsibility in the public.. and the government can't help but reflect who we are as a people, back at us.
this assumes that the government itself is clean enough to be a mirror
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this assumes that the government itself is clean enough to be a mirror
Black Magic 7/29/2022 8:20 PM
If it's dirty it's because we failed to clean it.
8:20 PM
it is again, our fault. We have the government we deserve to have.
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Well, we need better Healthcare in a system that works (like Germany or Austria where we put it to the states), education overhaul, reform the electoral College or even scrap it and thus scraping gerrymandering at the same time. Is that enough anti-authoritarian for you Nomad?
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it is again, our fault. We have the government we deserve to have.
Well the government cant be both the effect and the savior
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 8:21 PM
I also support Universal healthcare.
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We are the effect. The mirror is us as a people. Collectively, we failed to keep it clean. We failed to care for the systems we inherrited .
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As for you black magic, why not just, idk, reform the system we have???
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Well, we need better Healthcare in a system that works (like Germany or Austria where we put it to the states), education overhaul, reform the electoral College or even scrap it and thus scraping gerrymandering at the same time. Is that enough anti-authoritarian for you Nomad?
Yeah thats great, what politicians are doing this?
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We are the effect. The mirror is us as a people. Collectively, we failed to keep it clean. We failed to care for the systems we inherrited .
Ok and now we're supposed to fix the system we broke?
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 8:23 PM
Yes.
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Yeah thats great, what politicians are doing this?
Possibly Bernie, I may be completely wrong though I don't follow him closely
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 8:23 PM
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Well, we need better Healthcare in a system that works (like Germany or Austria where we put it to the states), education overhaul, reform the electoral College or even scrap it and thus scraping gerrymandering at the same time. Is that enough anti-authoritarian for you Nomad?
The electoral college is an intentionally aristocratic provision, that I would say many people's modern sensibilities object to
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Yeah thats great, what politicians are doing this?
And are they the same politicians pushing for AW Bans or other such ? Also, bernie is independent, running as a dem so he actually gets elected last i knew
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Yeah thats great, what politicians are doing this?
From what I'm seeing, primarily the democrats. Regardless I still proved your stick of 'democrats are authoritarians' wrong. Now please stop generalizing, you are doing none of us any favors.
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 8:24 PM
You are a statist 🙂
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There's advantages to that system
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I see we are using "proof" very loosely (edited)
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Where did someone say proof?
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Like 2 posts above
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 8:29 PM
My ideal state would have every citizen speaking at least Two-languages proficiently and the normal would be Three. An extensive education in History, philosophy and morality. Self accountability and respect for both self and social groups, instilled from early on in a child's education.
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Like 2 posts above
Right thanks
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 8:30 PM
So yes, Authoritarian.
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My ideal state would have every citizen speaking at least Two-languages proficiently and the normal would be Three. An extensive education in History, philosophy and morality. Self accountability and respect for both self and social groups, instilled from early on in a child's education.
That part about accountability and respect would only be achievable with serious social overhaul, imo. Are you prepared for or even in support of that?
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Authors: Julie Wronski, Alexa Bankert, Karyn Amira, April A. Johnson, Lindsey C. Levitan   Abstract: Authoritarianism has been predominantly used in American politics as a predictor of Republican identification and conservative policy preferences. We argue that this approach has neglected the role authoritarianism plays among Democrats and how i...
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 8:32 PM
Yes, I am in favor of Social engineering.
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Black Magic
Yes, I am in favor of Social engineering.
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My ideal state would have every citizen speaking at least Two-languages proficiently and the normal would be Three. An extensive education in History, philosophy and morality. Self accountability and respect for both self and social groups, instilled from early on in a child's education.
Additionally, what do you mean by "social groups"?
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What would you envision society being grouped as
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 8:34 PM
There's a lot of things I want. For example, a Amendment to our constitution that guarantees the right of a person to not be discriminated against for their identity, sexual, ethnic, or religious. Not just the right to express those things, but the right to NOT be discrimnated against.
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thechromatograph3r 7/29/2022 8:34 PM
This is bullshit. Why would Democrats pull this crap right before midterms? I will not comply. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-to-vote-on-assault-weapons-ban/
Almost all Republicans voted against the bill, which passed 217-213.
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 8:34 PM
Good morning Star shine
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There's a lot of things I want. For example, a Amendment to our constitution that guarantees the right of a person to not be discriminated against for their identity, sexual, ethnic, or religious. Not just the right to express those things, but the right to NOT be discrimnated against.
Tbh I think thats already been done (not all with amendments, and maybe not entirely effectively)
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But it's already pretty much there I think (edited)
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 8:36 PM
It's still legal to fire someone for being gay...
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nah, we ain't there.
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I want other things. I want a right to a job, I want strict controls on A.I. and Humanist policies to ensure healthy living styles are easier than toxic ones.
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The equal rights amendment has been ratified sir
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There's a lot of things I want. For example, a Amendment to our constitution that guarantees the right of a person to not be discriminated against for their identity, sexual, ethnic, or religious. Not just the right to express those things, but the right to NOT be discrimnated against.
The only problem i have with this is that people are so married to their political identity, which is being a fascist. Or folks that are racist or otherwise shitty who will NO DOUBT come back with "BuT iTs My IdEnTiTy" or some wack nonsense
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Cant be tolerant of intolerance kinda stuff
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 8:40 PM
That's why we beat it out of their children, with a state controlled education system. The future belongs to those we teach.
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The equal rights amendment has been ratified sir
And was later extended to include protection for different sexual orientations
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 8:41 PM
Good luck
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That's why we beat it out of their children, with a state controlled education system. The future belongs to those we teach.
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Me, watching authoritarian talk about their beleifs
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Do I mark #10 on my crossword off under social engineering? (edited)
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 8:43 PM
I also support Workers rights, and a right to work ( right to a job). Which is part of why I support the universal militia.
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That's why we beat it out of their children, with a state controlled education system. The future belongs to those we teach.
Sounds like in that system the future belongs to the government controlled education system
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 8:44 PM
We have a responsibility to our children, to teach them better than us.. Which cannot be done under the current socio political frame work.
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We should play "Fascism Bingo" while watching right wing speeches.
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But who's to decide what's best for them? That's why a heavily controlled "moral education" or whatever bothers me.
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But who's to decide what's best for them? That's why a heavily controlled "moral education" or whatever bothers me.
Especially when you see who is pushing for "moral" changes to education
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We should play "Fascism Bingo" while watching right wing speeches.
That would be a cute and funky fresh activity
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 8:46 PM
With a strong state education, we do not have to implement any social controls. No mandated families, no birth controls, no forced conformity to any kind of mythical nuclear family. No need. We can expressly reject ehtno-nationalism, expressly reject sexism and expressly reject homophobia.
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That would be a cute and funky fresh activity
I think making bingo cards might be a way to continue the meme war
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 8:46 PM
So... you can cross out..
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With a strong state education, we do not have to implement any social controls. No mandated families, no birth controls, no forced conformity to any kind of mythical nuclear family. No need. We can expressly reject ehtno-nationalism, expressly reject sexism and expressly reject homophobia.
Reject those things, and educate them with the opposite?
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 8:47 PM
Yes.
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I can see that, however I find it hard to believe that that's as far as a state controlled education is gonna go
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 8:48 PM
Any good state must be built on Truth and fairness. Our history will not be covered up, it will be taught in full and honest.
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With a strong state education, we do not have to implement any social controls. No mandated families, no birth controls, no forced conformity to any kind of mythical nuclear family. No need. We can expressly reject ehtno-nationalism, expressly reject sexism and expressly reject homophobia.
Sounds like this stuff is pretty much already done in non crazy school districts and cities, seems like the next step for you is gonna have to be social revolution
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To take it beyond the law (edited)
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Any good state must be built on Truth and fairness. Our history will not be covered up, it will be taught in full and honest.
This ought to be changed though
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 8:53 PM
We're about to enter revolutionary times. (edited)
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TheAnonymousDew 7/29/2022 8:55 PM
And I also support HARSH punishments for corporate malfeasance. No more slaps on the wrist for corporate offenders, you break the law, you get the book thrown at you. You have to make punishments for corporate crime so draconian that nobody would dare.
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Man i wish. All that "too big to fail" jazz really pissed me off If your company or bank is too big to fail, it was too big to exist, and too big to mismanage (edited)
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TheAnonymousDew 7/29/2022 8:56 PM
^
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 8:56 PM
Welcome to the club than.. yea?
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TheAnonymousDew 7/29/2022 8:57 PM
Stuff like Google being given slaps on the wrist for violating COPPA, how PG&E's executives' negilence caused the catastrophic Camp Fire which destroyed Paradise, CA. None of their execs saw prison time for manslaughter, or how Amazon continues to engage in practices that violate the FLSA without consequences
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That's what I mean
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For a company like Google, million dollar fines are wrist slaps
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Nestle
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That ine really pisses me off. Especially seeing the southwest boned on water
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 9:00 PM
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TheAnonymousDew 7/29/2022 9:00 PM
You really want to stop them? Fine them in the billions
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 9:00 PM
I am book marking this...
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TheAnonymousDew 7/29/2022 9:01 PM
10% of their annual income
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 9:01 PM
or 10% of their height.
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Gotta admit, i chuckled. I dont condone violence over it, however. We shouldnt
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 9:09 PM
I don't want violence.
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A civil conflict will be brutal, and filled with pointless horrors.
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Confusion, misery, pain,brutality.. and not a single survivor of those times will be without nightmares for the rest of their existence.
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TheAnonymousDew 7/29/2022 9:17 PM
And may lead to an even worse authoritarian seizing power in the vaccum
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A Russian man spent nearly a decade recruiting U.S. citizens and groups in Florida, Georgia and California to "sow discord" and push political "agitprop" against the United States and favoring the Kremlin, U.S. authorities say.
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And may lead to an even worse authoritarian seizing power in the vaccum
Speaking of... ^^
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Black Magic 7/29/2022 9:27 PM
I remember when Putin memes were funny.
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Foreigner meddling is just another pile of shit to add to the already enormous pile of shit we have to deal with.
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It doesn't help that the Democrat party just made themselves non-viable,
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HLMenckenFan 7/29/2022 11:10 PM
The disgraced former president said the next chief executive should take control of the National Guard from state governors and deploy troops to quell cities.
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Damn
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It's going to get worse from here (edited)
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Arm yourself. Stock up. Train. Prepare.
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HLMenckenFan 7/29/2022 11:21 PM
r/StandAgainstTyranny
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I hate that lady
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Anyways
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That shit is wild
11:23 PM
They are scared. Good.
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Now is the time to arm minorities and get everyone on the same page
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One of my biggest goals right now.
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HLMenckenFan 7/29/2022 11:24 PM
This is important
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Now is the time to arm minorities and get everyone on the same page
thechromatograph3r 7/30/2022 12:25 AM
Armed minorities don’t get bashed.
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HLMenckenFan 7/30/2022 1:27 AM
Correct
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VDV Swim Squad Coach 7/30/2022 5:55 AM
While I support arming minorities, I do want to remind everyone that it can cause the bigots to arm up as well
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While I support arming minorities, I do want to remind everyone that it can cause the bigots to arm up as well
Braakinthesaddle 7/30/2022 7:05 AM
The bigots here are already armed up
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This is bullshit. Why would Democrats pull this crap right before midterms? I will not comply. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-to-vote-on-assault-weapons-ban/
Yeah... this is a tough one. We can probably safely assume that the Senate will fillibuster it and the bill will die without 60 senators to beat the fillibuster. We know that not a single Republican senator will vote for it, except maybe some special case of someone retiring with some strange long-game plan, but I can't think of any R senators off the top of my head who would do that, certainly not 10 of them. So I think this is political maneuvering for the Democrats to say to their base, "look we tried to ban these weapons you all are scared of, but we don't have the majority of votes to get it past those darn Republicans. So we really need you all to get out and vote!" But it's also gonna fire up the Republican base. Just look at r/tacticalgear right now and other gun subs. It's a wild issue, very divisive. It sure does sour my plans this weekend to go door-knocking for a local Democrat when I don't agree with a mass disarming of rational peaceful citizens.
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While I support arming minorities, I do want to remind everyone that it can cause the bigots to arm up as well
You're kidding, right?
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thechromatograph3r 7/30/2022 11:03 AM
JUST IN: Oath Keeper Thomas Caldwell has been accused by prosecutors of keeping a “death list” that included the names of election officials on it (he calls it a benign “doodle pad.”) In a filing tonight, Caldwell revealed the names on his pad: Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss
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MisterStompy 7/30/2022 1:02 PM
bruh look at this dude
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Black Magic 7/30/2022 5:23 PM
Bank of America hopes things get worse.
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I hope things get French.
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Black Magic 7/30/2022 7:55 PM
I am experimenting with Drafting a New Bill of Rights. Here is my first attempt at adressing the First amendment.
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ARTICLE I. The Right to Freedom of Expression This constitution of the United of America, grants to every citizen, the right to freely express their views and beliefs without fear of prosecution by law. The right to assemble, the right to protest, the right to worship, and the right to freely express sincerely held opinions shall be respected by all institutions within the government, or which accept contracts from the government, or which receive subsidization from the Government of the United States. A. No person, institution, or Agency, shall discriminate against any individual or collection of individuals based on their Sex,Sexual Orientation,Ethnicity,or Creed. Any speech which is defined as hate speech under this section shall be Exempt from protection. B. No religion which harms a Child as defined in Article () as part of its practices shall be considered a sincerely held belief, and shall be subject to relevant penalty of law as appropriate. C. No Speech which is deemed to be deliberately intended to cause harm, deceive,mislead or misrepresent facts in a way which causes harm to people, or damage to property, shall be protected under this Article. D. When examining this Article, and its exemptions, Courts shall grant to a defendant in both criminal and civil cases, a reasonable benefit of the doubt, in such cases where a reasonable person may see ambiguity in the speech in question. (edited)
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I intend to write an article " rights of Children" based on the international recognized rights of children.
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Bank of America hopes things get worse.
TheAnonymousDew 7/30/2022 8:05 PM
And I hope their servers get hackef
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Black Magic 7/30/2022 8:16 PM
I am going to redo the subsections after a few discussions
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MisterStompy 7/30/2022 11:10 PM
Okay so I'd make some joke about Dark Brandon but honestly this is just because Republicans shafted the VA bill
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And anyway, Dark Brandon isn't a joke, so
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TheAnonymousDew 7/30/2022 11:47 PM
And they kicked the hornet's nest with Roe
11:52 PM
If Dems expand their majority in the Senate and keep the House
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birb
You're kidding, right?
VDV Swim Squad Coach 7/31/2022 5:15 AM
Nah
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something to be wary of
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It's not that they didn't have guns before and suddenly might go out and buy them
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more that they might be more proactive in carrying, brandishing, training the use of and using weapons in face of an organized defense
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so along with arming and training minorities, also remember to keep a close eye on what the bigots are doing in response. Assume that they are willing and able to change their tools, techniques and procedures and keep a look out for what those changes might be
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ARTICLE I. The Right to Freedom of Expression This constitution of the United of America, grants to every citizen, the right to freely express their views and beliefs without fear of prosecution by law. The right to assemble, the right to protest, the right to worship, and the right to freely express sincerely held opinions shall be respected by all institutions within the government, or which accept contracts from the government, or which receive subsidization from the Government of the United States. A. No person, institution, or Agency, shall discriminate against any individual or collection of individuals based on their Sex,Sexual Orientation,Ethnicity,or Creed. Any speech which is defined as hate speech under this section shall be Exempt from protection. B. No religion which harms a Child as defined in Article () as part of its practices shall be considered a sincerely held belief, and shall be subject to relevant penalty of law as appropriate. C. No Speech which is deemed to be deliberately intended to cause harm, deceive,mislead or misrepresent facts in a way which causes harm to people, or damage to property, shall be protected under this Article. D. When examining this Article, and its exemptions, Courts shall grant to a defendant in both criminal and civil cases, a reasonable benefit of the doubt, in such cases where a reasonable person may see ambiguity in the speech in question. (edited)
VDV Swim Squad Coach 7/31/2022 5:21 AM
Interesting
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Tho I would say it is overly restrictive
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specifically, subections A and C worry me
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while subsection D does alleviate some of my concerns, I think it may not be a strong enough protection
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Also the section about all those who accept contracts should be removed IMO
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This constitution of the United of America, grants to every citizen, the right to freely express their views and beliefs without fear of prosecution by law. The rights of assembly, protest, worship, and expression of sincerely held beliefs may not abridged or undermined by the Government of the United States or any of it’s apparatus.
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My re-write of the first paragraph, very much a draft
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Needs a strict term limits for political office and no exceptions
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So your logic is we should not advocate of arming minorities because the right might arm themselves more, right?
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thechromatograph3r 7/31/2022 2:18 PM
Translation: Democrats comfortable thinking they’ll win midterms, clearing the way for GOP landslide
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If Dems expand their majority in the Senate and keep the House
thechromatograph3r 7/31/2022 2:19 PM
They’re about to get 2010-level asswiped
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So your logic is we should not advocate of arming minorities because the right might arm themselves more, right?
Doctor Eval 7/31/2022 3:12 PM
The rightoids already have their persecution narrative well established. They already use fear-mongering, dehumanization, and wartime propaganda tactics to agitate the militants among them. Arming and training the left and minorities will not cause them to increase their violent rhetoric, because their rhetoric is already sufficiently violent. Instead of worrying about what they're going to do, we should be worrying about what we can do. We can defend ourselves. We can defend our community. We can get trained, and we can prepare. (edited)
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Exactly!
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Doctor Eval 7/31/2022 3:14 PM
And never forget that anytime anyone tries to do anything valuable, there will always be a naysayer there to tell them not to do it. @VDV Swim Squad Coach what are some of the things that you have done to improve your training? Your skills? Your community defense?
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Black Magic 7/31/2022 3:17 PM
Life isn't going to wait for you, so get up off your butt and go attack!  Pairs especially well with Monday mornings. 3" X 3.85" Reminds You To Not Suck
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If that TV has NASCAR on it, then yes it's me rn
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TheAnonymousDew 8/1/2022 7:05 AM
Many members of the Tea Party were being used and they didn't even realize it
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ARTICLE I. The Right to Freedom of Expression This constitution of the United of America, grants to every citizen, the right to freely express their views and beliefs without fear of prosecution by law. The right to assemble, the right to protest, the right to worship, and the right to freely express sincerely held opinions shall be respected by all institutions within the government, or which accept contracts from the government, or which receive subsidization from the Government of the United States. A. No person, institution, or Agency, shall discriminate against any individual or collection of individuals based on their Sex,Sexual Orientation,Ethnicity,or Creed. Any speech which is defined as hate speech under this section shall be Exempt from protection. B. No religion which harms a Child as defined in Article () as part of its practices shall be considered a sincerely held belief, and shall be subject to relevant penalty of law as appropriate. C. No Speech which is deemed to be deliberately intended to cause harm, deceive,mislead or misrepresent facts in a way which causes harm to people, or damage to property, shall be protected under this Article. D. When examining this Article, and its exemptions, Courts shall grant to a defendant in both criminal and civil cases, a reasonable benefit of the doubt, in such cases where a reasonable person may see ambiguity in the speech in question. (edited)
This feels overwritten to my sensibilities, because I'm used to the very concise nature of the constitution. Perhaps you can shorten it.
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MisterStompy 8/1/2022 6:45 PM
As a mentally ill person it's just infuriating watching what's happening to Herschel Walker, how he's being used by the GOP. And I would say the same thing if like Bernie Sanders tried to get Amanda Bynes to run for public office. It's fucked up that a very clearly unmedicated mentally ill person is having their delusions fed like this on the global stage. Yeah, I get that he's an asshole and all but it's still wrong for them to take advantage of him like this. He's clearly not lucid up there.
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thechromatograph3r 8/1/2022 7:26 PM
From Arizona: "After spending hundreds of hours reviewing these allegations, our investigators were able to determine that only one of the 282 individuals on the list was deceased at the time of the election. All other persons listed as deceased were found to be current voters."
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TheAnonymousDew 8/1/2022 7:39 PM
1 vote won't change anything. Considering the margin of victory
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1 vote won't change anything. Considering the margin of victory
thechromatograph3r 8/1/2022 7:48 PM
That’s the point. This “investigation” was a waste of time
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MisterStompy 8/1/2022 7:58 PM
So uh... who'd they vote for?
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joe hill’s revenge 8/1/2022 8:32 PM
That’s aspirational
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birb
So your logic is we should not advocate of arming minorities because the right might arm themselves more, right?
VDV Swim Squad Coach 8/2/2022 2:45 AM
Literally started my first sentence with I support arming minorities but ok sure strawman me (edited)
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And never forget that anytime anyone tries to do anything valuable, there will always be a naysayer there to tell them not to do it. @VDV Swim Squad Coach what are some of the things that you have done to improve your training? Your skills? Your community defense?
VDV Swim Squad Coach 8/2/2022 2:47 AM
I'm not in the US, and so to summarize: not a lot
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Doctor Eval
The rightoids already have their persecution narrative well established. They already use fear-mongering, dehumanization, and wartime propaganda tactics to agitate the militants among them. Arming and training the left and minorities will not cause them to increase their violent rhetoric, because their rhetoric is already sufficiently violent. Instead of worrying about what they're going to do, we should be worrying about what we can do. We can defend ourselves. We can defend our community. We can get trained, and we can prepare. (edited)
VDV Swim Squad Coach 8/2/2022 2:53 AM
Well said in regards to the already violent and dangerous nature of fascists in America, but there is only one part I would take issue with.
Instead of worrying about what they're going to do
Why instead? Why not do both? Know thine enemy, afterall. While the actions of the right in recent years have been unconscionably violent, to say that it cannot change or get worse is a dangerous assumption; after all, it has been worse before.
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VDV Swim Squad Coach 8/2/2022 3:05 AM
My point is not, and has never been, that arming minorities is a bad idea, but that in doing so you must keep vigilant for new attacks by the fascists. By arming, and organizing defense groups, the police and other LE agencies can be used to attack, subvert and disrupt your activities in a way not possible prior, as the simple (and constitutionally protected) act of bearing arms also provides just enough cover for corrupted law enforcement to target you and the organizations. Likewise, it is important to remember how bad the violence in once was; the KKK committed hate crimes with brutality and brazenness only allowed by communities because they perceived African american people to be a threat. Most american's, even the bigoted ones, aren't willing to stomach the brutality of a lynching unless they can justify it to themselves interms of a clear and present danger.
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This does not mean that you should not arm yourselves, and defend your communities, the need for community defense initiatives is clear and overwhelming. I say this not from a point of opposition or debate, but in an attempt to be constructive. Every action you take, be it arming you and your neighbors, organizing a protest, or even simply discussion in an open place, can open you and the organizations you are working with to new potential risks. This does not mean you should do nothing, but simply means that you should remain vigilant in all that you do.
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But if you are not convinced by that, and given the hostility to my points that I have encountered so far I believe that many wont be, then let me ask you this; what are you defending against? Knowledge is power friends. If you are organizing to defend against fascists, it is only logical that you divert at-least some of your resources to monitoring and recording the behaviors and connections of those fascists that threaten you. (edited)
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1 vote won't change anything. Considering the margin of victory
thechromatograph3r 8/2/2022 6:45 AM
Every accusation is a confession
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wabisabilover 8/2/2022 7:24 AM
Can we talk about the bull shit neoliberal virtue signaling that is the Assault Weapons Ban of 2022? First, it basically only bans AR and AK variants. All the other semiautomatic rifles in the same calibers aren’t included in the ban, including for instance the M1 Garrand (primary wwii infantry service rifle for the US), the mini-14 and the mini-30. That limited scope alone makes the ban hollow. Those rifles can be just as useful to a terrorist as an AR. Secondly, the grandfather clause exempts every existing assault weapon, which will continue to be lawfully owned and then lawfully sold to others at any time. I don’t know the real numbers, but there’s prob about 30 million + of them already out there, so banning new production just makes them more expensive, but won’t keep them out of the hands of anyone who really wants one. I don’t support any ban, but even if I did this accomplishes almost nothing except to make moderate Dems feel good about themselves without actually doing anything and give the GOP something solid to campaign on this November other than killing pregnant women. Stupid
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thechromatograph3r 8/2/2022 7:32 AM
Neoliberals: doing just enough, yet not enough, to piss literally everyone off
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Literally started my first sentence with I support arming minorities but ok sure strawman me (edited)
That is not a straw man. You literally just made an argument that if you do A then B might happen, right? What are you suggesting then? I did not fabricate that argument, you literally stated it in your response when suggesting arming minorities will cause the right to arm themselves further.
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I asked you a question, I did not fabricate an argument to attack it. Learn your fallacies please before responding with that bullshit.
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You don't think my response clarifies your previous statement?
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Can we talk about the bull shit neoliberal virtue signaling that is the Assault Weapons Ban of 2022? First, it basically only bans AR and AK variants. All the other semiautomatic rifles in the same calibers aren’t included in the ban, including for instance the M1 Garrand (primary wwii infantry service rifle for the US), the mini-14 and the mini-30. That limited scope alone makes the ban hollow. Those rifles can be just as useful to a terrorist as an AR. Secondly, the grandfather clause exempts every existing assault weapon, which will continue to be lawfully owned and then lawfully sold to others at any time. I don’t know the real numbers, but there’s prob about 30 million + of them already out there, so banning new production just makes them more expensive, but won’t keep them out of the hands of anyone who really wants one. I don’t support any ban, but even if I did this accomplishes almost nothing except to make moderate Dems feel good about themselves without actually doing anything and give the GOP something solid to campaign on this November other than killing pregnant women. Stupid
MisterStompy 8/2/2022 10:51 AM
This is why I unironically think everyone should have a gun at some point in their lives. People shouldn't write laws based on shit they don't understand.
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thechromatograph3r 8/2/2022 11:20 AM
Twenty-six Senate Republicans, including McConnell, issue statement saying: “We support Speaker of the House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi’s trip to Taiwan.”
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thechromatograph3r 8/2/2022 3:40 PM
Attorney General Garland has repeatedly said the Department of Justice "is going to use every tool we have to ensure reproductive freedom" and was reviewing its options.
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TheAnonymousDew 8/2/2022 4:05 PM
Do you know the real reason why people don't want to "work anymore", it has nothing to do with handouts. It's because due to corporations killing pension plans, driving housing prices through the roof, and making hiring for good jobs damn near impossible, people don't get to reap the fruits of their labor anymore. It sucks but why work 40 hours a week, just to barely make ends meet, because CEOs would rather give themselves more bonuses.
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My CEO made 20 mil last year while they laid off people and made me do the job of 3 people with only a 1% raise.
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They are lucky to get 20% out of me now.
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TheAnonymousDew 8/2/2022 4:10 PM
Bingo
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The US economy is rigged
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MisterStompy 8/2/2022 7:21 PM
in a historic move president zelenskyy has just promised queer ukrainians to put forward a civil partnerships law with an open road to marriage equality after the martial law ends
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"The more Russians you kill, the sooner we get gay marriage."
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MisterStompy 8/2/2022 9:35 PM
BREAKING: Senate finally passes the #PactAct to provide critical health benefits to veterans exposed to toxic chemicals. Republicans had to be directly and repeatedly lobbied by dying veterans to get them to stop obstructing this legislation.
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These republicans voted no: Crapo (R-ID) Lankford (R-OK) Lee (R-UT) Lummis (R-WY) Paul (R-KY) Risch (R-ID) Romney (R-UT) Shelby (R-AL) Tillis (R-NC) Toomey (R-PA) Tuberville (R-AL)
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possumtrot 8/2/2022 9:40 PM
Romney kinda surprised me, but maybe I shouldn't be
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Fuck Rand Paul and his perm
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HLMenckenFan 8/2/2022 11:10 PM
Tucker Carlson says Derek Chauvin did not commit murder
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MisterStompy 8/2/2022 11:13 PM
There's a reason Kansas is the only red state that acutally "let the voters decide". If they let all the states do this, every single state's population would vote overwhelmingly to keep abortion legal.
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@MisterStompy jinx!
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@MisterStompy jinx!
MisterStompy 8/2/2022 11:13 PM
GOD DAMMIT
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HLMenckenFan 8/2/2022 11:13 PM
This would backfire on them horribly
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Lol
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I'm hoping this is a sign of things to come
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This would backfire on them horribly
MisterStompy 8/2/2022 11:14 PM
It backfired on Kansas
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HLMenckenFan 8/2/2022 11:14 PM
Yes
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Today Kansas
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Tomorrow
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I'm hoping this is a sign of things to come
MisterStompy 8/2/2022 11:14 PM
No other GOP state is gonna call the referendum now.
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Nah, I'm looking at midterms
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A boy can dream, right?
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Nah, I'm looking at midterms
MisterStompy 8/2/2022 11:16 PM
You have to push back at accelerationist tankies who tell people voting is useless.
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Absolutely
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HLMenckenFan 8/2/2022 11:19 PM
Tankies are cringe
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How incredibly short-sighted must you be to be a tankie?
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Just short-sighted enough to not see reason.
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HLMenckenFan 8/3/2022 12:16 AM
I don’t have any tankie jokes on me
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Tankies are the joke
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That is not a straw man. You literally just made an argument that if you do A then B might happen, right? What are you suggesting then? I did not fabricate that argument, you literally stated it in your response when suggesting arming minorities will cause the right to arm themselves further.
VDV Swim Squad Coach 8/3/2022 1:25 AM
If A then B does not mean that I am criticizing A or saying A does not happen
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You then said that my point was that we should not support arming minorities (edited)
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aka You said my point was A should not happen (edited)
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that is a straw man
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My point is that A can cause B (edited)
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not that we should not do A
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but we should be aware of the risk of B happening, and take steps to mitigate that risk
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VDV Swim Squad Coach 8/3/2022 1:38 AM
Also before anyone thinks of continuing attacking my attempts at being constructive through that straw man, I warn against asking whether or not I have an alternative suggestion as a method of trying to dismiss my point (As was attempted by Doctor Eval). The argument that "No alternate solution being given alongside criticism of an existing solution means that the criticism of the existing solution cannot be used" is a formal non sequitur fallacy 🙂
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My point is that A can cause B (edited)
Its too bad B hasn't caused A this far into the US slip towards fascism
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VDV Swim Squad Coach 8/3/2022 1:39 AM
Agreed
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Says a lot about the willingness of the right to use force to achieve their goals
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Also before anyone thinks of continuing attacking my attempts at being constructive through that straw man, I warn against asking whether or not I have an alternative suggestion as a method of trying to dismiss my point (As was attempted by Doctor Eval). The argument that "No alternate solution being given alongside criticism of an existing solution means that the criticism of the existing solution cannot be used" is a formal non sequitur fallacy 🙂
I believe you're full of shit.
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Further, talking down to members like they are not aware of how the right operates is absolutely annoying and honestly no one gives a fuck about your criticism. Your silly comment that arming minorities might cause the right to arm themselves is comically silly. Anyone that lives in the US is hyper aware that the right is already armed and nothing needs to be done to provoke that. I also want to make you aware since you obviously can't fathom, that it is possible to arm without your neighbors knowing. I can teach my neighbors to be responsible gun owners without the right knowing. The left tend to be secretive about their firearms instead of posting pictures with them on social media as a means of displaying power. We really don't need you to speak the obvious though. It does not add to the discussion, it's not constructive, it makes it look like you're talking down to others who are obviously hyper aware of this shit.
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that is a straw man
And that is not a strawman. I did not make a statement. I asked you for clarification to understand your statement. Again, Learn your fallacies. (edited)
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This place has not been productive and has been a distraction. I hope y'all get your shit together.
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MisterStompy 8/3/2022 8:11 AM
Let's all just take a breather (edited)
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There's a reason Kansas is the only red state that acutally "let the voters decide". If they let all the states do this, every single state's population would vote overwhelmingly to keep abortion legal.
thechromatograph3r 8/3/2022 9:06 AM
That’s insane and actually heartwarming
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Romney kinda surprised me, but maybe I shouldn't be
thechromatograph3r 8/3/2022 9:06 AM
Why’d Romney vote no?
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possumtrot 8/3/2022 9:07 AM
No idea
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How incredibly short-sighted must you be to be a tankie?
AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/3/2022 10:15 AM
I want to believe in communism, but I know communists, and these guys can't even be bothered to do their own dishes, help clean the house, buy tp or other necessities, and simply mooch off the more responsible people who live here. If they can't even contribute to a personal community of 4, how in the hell are we going to make it work as a Nation of 330,000,000 people without the threat of violence?
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I want to believe in communism, but I know communists, and these guys can't even be bothered to do their own dishes, help clean the house, buy tp or other necessities, and simply mooch off the more responsible people who live here. If they can't even contribute to a personal community of 4, how in the hell are we going to make it work as a Nation of 330,000,000 people without the threat of violence?
MisterStompy 8/3/2022 10:54 AM
Communists be like "I'M GONNA OVERTHROW AMERICA IN A REVOLUTION" motherfucker you won't even mail in a ballot to vote, you aren't fighting a revolution
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/3/2022 10:55 AM
It's difficult for me to rag on them too badly though. They accurately see the problems in America that capitalism unfettered does not work. It's just their solutions are fucked to hell
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Makes a lot more sense to me to look at democracies with well-regulated capitalism and a robust social safety net
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I want to believe in communism, but I know communists, and these guys can't even be bothered to do their own dishes, help clean the house, buy tp or other necessities, and simply mooch off the more responsible people who live here. If they can't even contribute to a personal community of 4, how in the hell are we going to make it work as a Nation of 330,000,000 people without the threat of violence?
JohnBrosGhost 8/3/2022 4:44 PM
I’ve visited enough rural communes to see that it can bring out the absolute worst in people.
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It's difficult for me to rag on them too badly though. They accurately see the problems in America that capitalism unfettered does not work. It's just their solutions are fucked to hell
TheAnonymousDew 8/3/2022 10:24 PM
Bingo
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All Capitalism in America has done in it's current form is exacerbate wealth inequality, eviscerate the American middle class, and create a lot of pointless jobs
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Communists be like "I'M GONNA OVERTHROW AMERICA IN A REVOLUTION" motherfucker you won't even mail in a ballot to vote, you aren't fighting a revolution
Phijkchu (Sam) 8/3/2022 10:35 PM
I believe there are many who will turncoat and just pretend to be fascists or hide, and then live their lives that way.
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I want to believe in communism, but I know communists, and these guys can't even be bothered to do their own dishes, help clean the house, buy tp or other necessities, and simply mooch off the more responsible people who live here. If they can't even contribute to a personal community of 4, how in the hell are we going to make it work as a Nation of 330,000,000 people without the threat of violence?
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Makes a lot more sense to me to look at democracies with well-regulated capitalism and a robust social safety net
My criticism is that they're not enough and still perpetuate those systems that they're attempting to get rid of or get past.
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My criticism is that they're not enough and still perpetuate those systems that they're attempting to get rid of or get past.
VDV Swim Squad Coach 8/4/2022 4:40 AM
The good old Social Democrat vs Democratic Socialism
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They're both the same lol
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Only real difference would be their potential market systems (edited)
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MisterStompy 8/4/2022 11:55 AM
BREAKING: Attorney General Merrick Garland announces that the Justice Department has charged four current and former Louisville Metro Police Department officers with federal crimes related to death of Breonna Taylor. https://t.co/MkMVdSy5iE
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I believe there are many who will turncoat and just pretend to be fascists or hide, and then live their lives that way.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/4/2022 2:29 PM
Death before such dishonor.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/4/2022 2:30 PM
Only took 2 years of protesting
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/4/2022 2:52 PM
#1 - On the Framers
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I contest that assertion and recommend you not compare the US to ancient empires which uh killed a lot of fucking people and definitely didn't practice any form of human rights.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/4/2022 3:01 PM
shut up and let me finish.
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There's no need to be impolite.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/4/2022 3:18 PM
Because the Arc of the Moral Universe only bends towards Justice, because we pull on it.
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Please vote.
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Please donate.
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Please canvass.
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Please phone bank.
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You're doubling back on yourself a bit. "1) The Framers were wrong and slavers 2) The Framers had the right ideas" One could also argue, or understand, that the stable geopolitical situation is due to Manifest Destiny, which only cost the lives of millions of natives. This grand scheme of theirs that you applaud, was accomplished through ruthless industrialization and annihilation of indigenous tribes. I wouldn't pat them on the back so much after commenting on the evils that built the nation. (edited)
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/4/2022 3:20 PM
Reg - this isn't a homework assignment for you to cross out sentences in red ink.
3:21 PM
kindly, piss off.
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"I will brook no critique and accept no feedback on my half-baked emotional vomit."
3:22 PM
You have no business proselytizing if you're not actually interested in teaching, learning, and refining your message.
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"I will brook no critique and accept no feedback on my half-baked emotional vomit."
AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/4/2022 3:22 PM
feedback and critique are usually asked for, no?
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Consent seems to be the distinguishing feature.
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Consent 😂
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Take it up with the admins if you have an issue.
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Take it up with the admins if you have an issue.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/4/2022 3:23 PM
calm down smeagol.
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You know the inability to take feedback is no different than the folks at r/Conservative.
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They just ban differing opinions. Are you really that opposed to feedback? Do you really have no interest in refining your sermon so others don't rip it apart?
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You know the inability to take feedback is no different than the folks at r/Conservative.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/4/2022 3:25 PM
And your inability to understand when it's not wanted, when you were literally interrupting me halfway through - is no different from Conservatives.
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This isn't #alexandertheprettygood-chat.
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@WojtektheBear What's your take?
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This isn't #alexandertheprettygood-chat.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/4/2022 3:27 PM
nor is it #regwantstobeanenglishmajor-chat either. You're just being a condescending asshole.
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well ACKshually
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No, I'm not. My feedback is 100%.
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You blanket said the US has committed atrocities on a scale worse than even ancient empires. That's factually incorrect and food for the Russians and Chinese. You said the Framers were a bunch of slavers, and that America was built on evils. Then you turn around and say the Framers were brilliant geniuses who built a great nation. (edited)
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No, I'm not. My feedback is 100%.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/4/2022 3:29 PM
100% self-aggrandizement perhaps. I'd question your reading comprehension now too, but I'll settle for blocking you.
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That's not me being condescending, that's what you said. (edited)
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"Entitled would-be preacher decides to proselytize a mixed and hypocritical sermon to nobody in particular, but gets upset when feedback is given and blocks people who disagree. Also demands others sit quietly until they're done, despite being in an open forum meant for conversation." Is this really the caliber of person anyone wants preaching at them? (edited)
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/4/2022 3:32 PM
Now you're just being insulting.
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Again, nobody asked you for feedback.
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You literally insulted me. Im merely summarizing your behavior this far. 🤷‍♂️
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@WojtektheBear What's your take?
WojtektheBear 8/4/2022 3:33 PM
Yeah I mean I’m at work and definitely not gonna read all this but I will just ask that people be civil. I will say if you’re not gonna do discourse you shouldn’t just post non stop. I’d assume the point of publicly posting to have that dialogue
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Again, nobody asked you for feedback.
WojtektheBear 8/4/2022 3:34 PM
Dawg you’re in a public chat, no one is above that here
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/4/2022 3:34 PM
Excuse the hell out of me for trying to get Americans feeling something other than dismal worry that we're going to live under Christian Sharia Law before Climate Change kills us all.
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You literally want to prevent me from speaking, Mr. Liberty.
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Either learn to discuss ideas with people and process feedback, or, don't, I guess.
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You literally want to prevent me from speaking, Mr. Liberty.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/4/2022 3:36 PM
No I wanted you to respect the pulpit, but clearly this isn't the right place for that since you want to jump down my throat the second I stop for breath.
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Excuse the hell out of me for trying to get Americans feeling something other than dismal worry that we're going to live under Christian Sharia Law before Climate Change kills us all.
WojtektheBear 8/4/2022 3:36 PM
You’ll note I haven’t read what you wrote, but I’m obviously not opposed to having a sense of urgency about the crisis. Just that feedback is welcome and a part of being in the chat
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Why respect the pulpit when it just blocks you and tells you to, quote "shut up and let me finish." (edited)
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No I wanted you to respect the pulpit, but clearly this isn't the right place for that since you want to jump down my throat the second I stop for breath.
WojtektheBear 8/4/2022 3:37 PM
“Respect the pulpit” I really want you understand this not a Wendy’s nor a church, it’s a public discord server
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You’ll note I haven’t read what you wrote, but I’m obviously not opposed to having a sense of urgency about the crisis. Just that feedback is welcome and a part of being in the chat
AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/4/2022 3:37 PM
I'm not opposed to feedback, I'm opposed to neckbeards going "Well ACKshually" anytime somebody wants to say some rousing words.
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Now I'm a neckbeard for knowing Ghengis Khan existed.
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Now I'm a neckbeard for knowing Ghengis Khan existed.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/4/2022 3:38 PM
did you also remind the teacher to give everyone homework? You do give off that kind of killjoy vibe.
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I'm not opposed to feedback, I'm opposed to neckbeards going "Well ACKshually" anytime somebody wants to say some rousing words.
WojtektheBear 8/4/2022 3:38 PM
Calling your comrade/compatriot a neck beard isn’t appropriate
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I am a public servant who enforces worker's rights for a living, so I do practice upholding the rules, yes.
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did you also remind the teacher to give everyone homework? You do give off that kind of killjoy vibe.
WojtektheBear 8/4/2022 3:39 PM
Aight both of you need to shut the fuck up and go to your corners
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/4/2022 3:40 PM
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Why respect the pulpit when it just blocks you and tells you to, quote "shut up and let me finish." (edited)
WojtektheBear 8/4/2022 3:40 PM
Now I will say, this would be easier if @AlexanderthePrettyGood had prewritten and then posted.
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I disagree with group punishment, when I'm using the channel as intended, and giving genuine feedback. The trolls will feast on his sermon as-is. 🤷‍♂️
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WojtektheBear 8/4/2022 3:40 PM
Just for future reference
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/4/2022 3:40 PM
John Brown's Soul does not possess me during convenient times, I apologize.
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I disagree with group punishment, when I'm using the channel as intended, and giving genuine feedback. The trolls will feast on his sermon as-is. 🤷‍♂️
WojtektheBear 8/4/2022 3:41 PM
This ain’t group punishment. This is ending a waste of time. Just because he wrote something doesn’t mean as collective it will or does immediately represent us
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Makes a lot more sense to me to look at democracies with well-regulated capitalism and a robust social safety net
thechromatograph3r 8/4/2022 4:01 PM
The Nordic model
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thechromatograph3r 8/4/2022 4:02 PM
FINALLY
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Only took 2 years of protesting
thechromatograph3r 8/4/2022 4:03 PM
Look at what it takes to get a SINGLE COP held accountable for reckless behavior.
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Cops need protection from frivolous lawsuits, like when people try to sue you for breaking their ribs while saving their life with CPR, but it's ballooned into near-immunity for outright criminal activity. (edited)
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Cops need protection from frivolous lawsuits, like when people try to sue you for breaking their ribs while saving their life with CPR, but it's ballooned into near-immunity for outright criminal activity. (edited)
thechromatograph3r 8/4/2022 4:11 PM
Qualified immunity needs to go. Hands down. They don’t get blanket immunity with no way to sue them or hold them accountable. They don’t get to be above the law. They don’t get to be judge, jury, and executioner. Worried about frivolous lawsuits? Evaluate on a case-by-case basis. Good cops usually won’t need QI. Bad cops don’t deserve it.
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All it would take is a law protecting good Samaritans, to include firefighters, emts, etc, and cops, that discusses those "what-if" scenarios. Blanket immunity is laziness, and enabling. (edited)
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I'd hate to bash a union, but the police unions are just evil.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/4/2022 4:17 PM
Police Unions aren't Unions. They are protection rackets to prevent criminals from seeing justice. They literally exist to prevent accountability.
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The Nordic model
possumtrot 8/4/2022 4:19 PM
Indeed
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Steve Mike 8/4/2022 5:56 PM
I know it's a long shot but please consider supporting this campaign. I've met the man and heard him speak several times, he is a legit progressive, a good person, and a hell of a speaker. Again I know it's a long shot but if you can even give $10 it'll be $10 telling Rand Paul to fuck off!!! https://youtu.be/e4vAfqGNQwQ
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Those battleground states need help.
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New Mexico is pretty set for Dems, even the Republicans can't favor Trump openly or they lose, badly. Only the most centrist of conservatives make headway these days. (edited)
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Steve Mike 8/4/2022 6:01 PM
I'm donating as well to PA, GA, and FL as well. I just really want KY to get rid of Rand Paul. KY has been fucked so hard and I know, it's full of chuddy fudds. I just can't let it go without a fight (edited)
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I'm donating as well to PA, GA, and FL as well. I just really want KY to get rid of Rand Paul. KY has been fucked so hard and I know, it's full of chuddy fudds. I just can't let it go without a fight (edited)
AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/4/2022 6:12 PM
PA is solid Fetterman has it locked down. I'm worried about GA a lot though, Warnock might lose if we don't have all hands on deck.
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I listened to a whole NPR story on Georgia's flip, even I felt hope.
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Steve Mike 8/4/2022 6:22 PM
Yep Fetterman has hilariously pulled ahead. Georgia does seem to be the hot one. I hope Warnock gets to debate Walker
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TheAnonymousDew 8/4/2022 6:26 PM
Oz is a terrible candidate
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Oz is a terrible candidate
AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/4/2022 6:31 PM
Even by Republican Standards
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Yep Fetterman has hilariously pulled ahead. Georgia does seem to be the hot one. I hope Warnock gets to debate Walker
AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/4/2022 6:32 PM
Preachers know how to argue. If Warnock debates him, I think he'll win.
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TheAnonymousDew 8/4/2022 6:40 PM
Plus, Walker's a hot mess anyway
6:42 PM
Another mass shooting? How many more Americans will be gunned down because the Gun Lobby are amoral bastards who don't care who gets to have a gun, as long as they make a big fat profit?
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Another mass shooting? How many more Americans will be gunned down because the Gun Lobby are amoral bastards who don't care who gets to have a gun, as long as they make a big fat profit?
AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/4/2022 7:07 PM
well, my personal context is that of a rural bumpkin that learned how to shoot before most people learn how to drive so I'm incredibly biased on the subject of firearms and probably wouldn't agree with most of y'all here.
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I'm of the firm opinion, especially given how illuminating the past several years have been, that every single progressive, left-leaning, atheist, any person of color or woman, having any kind of faith other than evangelical Christianity - should be strongly considering arming themselves.
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I was a part of evangelical Christianity for a long time, and let me tell you those people mean business. They are of a delusion that transcends any rationality and they are dead serious about every whack ass belief they have. The Rapture, Jesus coming back, the End Times, all of it. This is gonna get a whole lot worse before it gets better. (edited)
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there's only one man I trust to guarantee my American Rights, and his name is Samuel Colt.
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I think fewer people here would disagree with you than you think. #firearms
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I was a part of evangelical Christianity for a long time, and let me tell you those people mean business. They are of a delusion that transcends any rationality and they are dead serious about every whack ass belief they have. The Rapture, Jesus coming back, the End Times, all of it. This is gonna get a whole lot worse before it gets better. (edited)
TheAnonymousDew 8/4/2022 8:46 PM
If tbe Rapture is coming, those assclowns will be the ones left behind
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Steve Mike 8/4/2022 8:51 PM
What's really wild is that I think these Christians are going to actually create Armageddon, thereby fulfilling the prophesy, but not in the way they think. Reagan actually believed 100% in the end times craziness and tried to bring it to fruition
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They want it to happen and they're pushing for it, they more than likely want to be armageddon accelerationists by denying climate change and stripping rights away and allowing unfettered gun access under the guise of being true capitalist God fearing American Christians and destroying civil liberties under that veil while grasping a Bible, crazy. (edited)
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What's really wild is that I think these Christians are going to actually create Armageddon, thereby fulfilling the prophesy, but not in the way they think. Reagan actually believed 100% in the end times craziness and tried to bring it to fruition
AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/4/2022 9:32 PM
This. And what's even more demented, is they will take the disasters wreaked by unchecked climate change as proof that these prophecies are coming true
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They want it to happen and they're pushing for it, they more than likely want to be armageddon accelerationists by denying climate change and stripping rights away and allowing unfettered gun access under the guise of being true capitalist God fearing American Christians and destroying civil liberties under that veil while grasping a Bible, crazy. (edited)
TheAnonymousDew 8/4/2022 9:55 PM
Their god won't save them
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HLMenckenFan 8/4/2022 11:08 PM
By Blake Hounshell
What was the prime minister of Hungary doing addressing a crowd of Republicans in Dallas?
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HLMenckenFan 8/4/2022 11:45 PM
What news sources do you like?
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TheAnonymousDew 8/5/2022 12:01 AM
NY Times, NPR, Washington Post, Reuters, BBC
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PBS
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The Economist. I like the short form articles and witty writing style
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TheAnonymousDew 8/5/2022 5:00 AM
They've taken the masks off and the Grillers are too lost to realise it
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I know it's a long shot but please consider supporting this campaign. I've met the man and heard him speak several times, he is a legit progressive, a good person, and a hell of a speaker. Again I know it's a long shot but if you can even give $10 it'll be $10 telling Rand Paul to fuck off!!! https://youtu.be/e4vAfqGNQwQ
thechromatograph3r 8/5/2022 9:13 AM
Remember that Rand is only a doctor because his father (Ron Paul) said he would only donate several million to his alma mater if they accepted his son into med school. Rand doesn’t even have a bachelor’s.
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I'm donating as well to PA, GA, and FL as well. I just really want KY to get rid of Rand Paul. KY has been fucked so hard and I know, it's full of chuddy fudds. I just can't let it go without a fight (edited)
thechromatograph3r 8/5/2022 9:14 AM
Portman’s seat (OH) is competitive with him retiring.
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NY Times, NPR, Washington Post, Reuters, BBC
thechromatograph3r 8/5/2022 9:15 AM
Reuters and AP are the best
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there's only one man I trust to guarantee my American Rights, and his name is Samuel Colt.
thechromatograph3r 8/5/2022 9:16 AM
“God created man. Samuel Colt made ‘em equal.”
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there's only one man I trust to guarantee my American Rights, and his name is Samuel Colt.
TheAnonymousDew 8/5/2022 1:22 PM
Well, I also trust two people. Smith and Wesson
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I'm of the firm opinion, especially given how illuminating the past several years have been, that every single progressive, left-leaning, atheist, any person of color or woman, having any kind of faith other than evangelical Christianity - should be strongly considering arming themselves.
I'm getting a gun as soon as I turn 18. It's the great equalizer for me as a physically smaller person.
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Hooooolyyyyyy shiiiiiit
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thechromatograph3r 8/6/2022 3:16 PM
The Michigan Republican Party has canceled its primary election night watch party, citing the receipt of “several death threats” in the days leading up to Tuesday’s contest.
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That "the second coming (yeats)" reference at the beginning of that article really got me
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MisterStompy 8/6/2022 6:58 PM
"why don't you trust communists, bro?"
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"why don't you trust communists, bro?"
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tankies arent to be trusted at all
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same with fascists and the far right
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same with fascists and the far right
MisterStompy 8/6/2022 7:00 PM
they both plan to kill us and then each other
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Deleted User 8/6/2022 7:01 PM
if the Wiemar SPD and 1930s Iron Front can be gigachads then we can
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Explains why the likes of Matt "The Diddler" Gaetz still has unwavering support: Republicans were more likely than their political counterparts to maintain support of their candidate even after learning of transgressions of rather high severity, such as “paid a witness to give false testimony in a criminal trial,” the report states. https://today.uic.edu/study-examines-voters-threshold-for-transgressions-by-political-candidates
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if the Wiemar SPD and 1930s Iron Front can be gigachads then we can
thechromatograph3r 8/7/2022 10:52 AM
Bet
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MisterStompy 8/7/2022 11:40 AM
CPI Chicago Opening Ceremony!
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On February 20, 1939, a Nazi rally took place at Madison Square Garden, organized by the German American Bund. More than 20,000 people attended, and Fritz Julius Kuhn was a featured speaker. The Bund billed the event, which took place two days before George Washington's Birthday, as a pro-"Americanism" rally; the stage at the event featured a hu...
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Imagine being some 90 year old WW2 veteran seeing some Amerikanski larper carry the victory banner on stage while commemorating the same kind of imperialist aggression you fought to defend your country from.
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thechromatograph3r 8/7/2022 1:22 PM
What’s worse is the growing number of neo-nazis in the military
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What’s worse is the growing number of neo-nazis in the military
MisterStompy 8/7/2022 1:23 PM
Neo Nazis will pretty much always be a much bigger threat than communists, yes
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They can't not lie. A 2017 report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office found that of the 85 deadly extremist incidents since September 11, 2001, far right-wing extremist groups were responsible for 73%, while radical Islamist extremists were responsible for 27%. Source: https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-17-300
What GAO Found As of December 2016, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), Department of Justice (DOJ), Federal Bureau of Investigation, and...
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heinz_ketchup 8/7/2022 9:03 PM
yeah, I know, but facts don't matter to these people. I'm worried about what is gonna happen after the election due to the GOP messaging. "everybody in SRA or liberal gun club is gonna be rounded up and put in a biblical constitutional training camp" or some such thing.
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or even simpler, "SRA is hereby designated a terrorist organization. get ready for guantanemo"
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or even simpler, "SRA is hereby designated a terrorist organization. get ready for guantanemo"
MisterStompy 8/7/2022 9:12 PM
It's not that simple, you can't just label American groups as "terrorists", otherwise the Klan would have been designated officially as a terrorist group years ago, or Trump would have made "Antifa" terrorists
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It's a first amendment violation
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Closest you can do is have them classified as gangs/organized crime groups in the FBI database
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heinz_ketchup 8/7/2022 9:13 PM
I just don't have so much faith in the rule of law anymore
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yeah, I know, but facts don't matter to these people. I'm worried about what is gonna happen after the election due to the GOP messaging. "everybody in SRA or liberal gun club is gonna be rounded up and put in a biblical constitutional training camp" or some such thing.
It is a manifestation of the "big lie": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie The point is not to convince them, rather the point is to arm yourself with facts to counter their lies at every corner to prevent their lies from taking hold and deceiving otherwise good people. If Voldemort claims that "left wing militants are a great threat", then provide the undeniable proof showing who the real threat is.
A big lie (German: große Lüge) is a gross distortion or misrepresentation of the truth, used especially as a propaganda technique. The German expression was coined by Adolf Hitler, when he dictated his book Mein Kampf (1925), to describe the use of a lie so colossal that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the ...
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heinz_ketchup 8/7/2022 9:14 PM
I hope you're right
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MisterStompy 8/7/2022 9:14 PM
Anyway a sitting United States senator just tweeted out Dark Brandon https://twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1556412614531584003
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Anyway a sitting United States senator just tweeted out Dark Brandon https://twitter.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1556412614531584003
heinz_ketchup 8/7/2022 9:19 PM
jfc
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MisterStompy 8/7/2022 9:19 PM
"To all Americans who voted for President Trump... there's no way out."
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Black Magic 8/8/2022 1:27 AM
I am gone for 3 days… what the fuck is a dark Brandon?
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.. and why the fuck
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And who the fuck ?
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Deleted User 8/8/2022 8:46 AM
The Patriots are on control
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I am gone for 3 days… what the fuck is a dark Brandon?
Brandon is like a code name for Joe Biden
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Chancellor Palpatine / Darth Sidious, pretty much.
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I am gone for 3 days… what the fuck is a dark Brandon?
WojtektheBear 8/8/2022 12:53 PM
My favorite part of this meme is that people who weren’t part of it have no concept of it at all lol
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It’s just doing a reverse ironic version of “let’s go Brandon” + Dark MAGA + the God Emperor Trump Warhammer 40K stuff
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Former President Donald Trump said FBI agents raided his Mar-a-Lago estate and broke into his safe in what his son acknowledged was part of an investigation into Trump's removal of official presidential records from the White House to his Florida resort. We explain what legal woes Trump faces. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-fbi-agents-raided-his-florida-home-2022-08-08/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-fbi-is-raiding-his-florida-estate-what-legal-woes-does-he-face-2022-08-08/
Former President Donald Trump said FBI agents raided his Mar-a-Lago estate on Monday and broke into his safe in what his son acknowledged was part of an investigation into Trump's removal of official presidential records from the White House to his Florida resort.
Former U.S. President Donald Trump said on Monday that FBI agents raided his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Florida. Law enforcement officials did not immediately respond to requests for comment on Trump's claims.
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Casey
They can't not lie. A 2017 report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office found that of the 85 deadly extremist incidents since September 11, 2001, far right-wing extremist groups were responsible for 73%, while radical Islamist extremists were responsible for 27%. Source: https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-17-300
thechromatograph3r 8/9/2022 2:15 PM
You mean 100% right-wing, then? Radical Islamists are RW
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You mean 100% right-wing, then? Radical Islamists are RW
That is correct, it is the wording that they provide in the document.
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VANGUARD LOCK
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MisterStompy 8/9/2022 5:37 PM
bro I could never infiltrate these guys I would bully them so fucking hard
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>can bench 135 good LORD
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>can bench 135 good LORD
Braakinthesaddle 8/9/2022 5:41 PM
chuckles in powerlifter
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chuckles in powerlifter
MisterStompy 8/9/2022 5:41 PM
I'm not even like super shredded or anything but I can at least go above my bodyweight.
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grrrr
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Braakinthesaddle 8/9/2022 5:47 PM
What a jackass
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MisterStompy 8/9/2022 5:48 PM
Canadian Crowder out here trying to incite The Troubles
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thechromatograph3r 8/9/2022 5:48 PM
🚨🚨🚨BREAKING per WSJ: Part of the reason the FBI searched Mar-a-Lago was because agents believed there was still a lot more classified info there after the Natl Archives earlier retrieved 15 boxes of WH documents from there. Agents took away approximately 10 MORE boxes (!)
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MisterStompy 8/9/2022 5:49 PM
How much you want to bet he didn't even know what it is he stole? He just saw the presidential seal and was like "oh yeah I should take this looks expensive"
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How much you want to bet he didn't even know what it is he stole? He just saw the presidential seal and was like "oh yeah I should take this looks expensive"
thechromatograph3r 8/9/2022 5:51 PM
Probably. Trump's a fucking idiot. That being said, do not underestimate his cronies.
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Steve Mike 8/9/2022 5:52 PM
I'm hoping it's all blackmail that he has on the maga crew politicians
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We know he tore up a bunch of documents all the time so I think if it was something he knew that would only hurt him, it probably got destroyed. But he absolutely would keep dirt and state secrets
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I'm hoping it's all blackmail that he has on the maga crew politicians
thechromatograph3r 8/9/2022 5:54 PM
Fuck it. Investigate them, too!
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Steve Mike 8/9/2022 5:54 PM
Yep and no matter what the content, it's still a crime for him to take it
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thechromatograph3r 8/9/2022 5:57 PM
"It's unequivocally discrimination on the basis of sex." Yesterday, federal judge Jane Magnus-Stinson said a 10 year old transgender girl in Indiana can rejoin her softball team as the courts consider the state's trans athlete ban. https://t.co/3pBO4fDTAZ #TitleIX #LetKidsPlay
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thechromatograph3r 8/9/2022 6:07 PM
Trump ally Rep. Scott Perry says the FBI seized his cell phone one day after Mar-a-Lago raid https://t.co/iyK0e8hhZ3
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BREAKING: the DoJ has executed a search WARRANT on REPUBLICAN MEMBER OF CONGRESS SCOTT PERRY, confiscating his phone. Perry asked for a pardon for 1/6 and MEADOWS was seen burning documents after meeting with PERRY.
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thechromatograph3r 8/9/2022 6:17 PM
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@NYMag @jonathanchait I’m the last 12 or so years. Israel. France & South Korea have prosecuted & sentenced corrupt high ranking officials such as Presidents & Prime Ministers. That’s what you do in a democracy that believes in the rule of law.
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Hello, yes, fbi tips? This man appears to be inciting terrorist violence
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Braakinthesaddle 8/9/2022 7:15 PM
This was mrw I saw widdle Cwowder in the thumbnail
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MisterStompy 8/9/2022 7:16 PM
It's time to fight for every square inch. Use code “FIGHT” for 15% off! https://t.co/Y96Z79D2Jv
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me when Steven tells me to fight like hell
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Crowder could get deported if he gets convicted of inciting sedition
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Wear Articles of Rclothing
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MisterStompy 8/9/2022 7:28 PM
FBI raids home of Epstein-linked Clinton donor
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MisterStompy 8/9/2022 7:39 PM
The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine would like to remind everyone that the presence of occupying troops on the territory of Ukrainian Crimea is not compatible with the high tourist season.
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This is amazing! The crowd holds him accountable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22kcEm-ig7A
JohnBrosGhost 8/9/2022 9:49 PM
Fancy Farm is always a spectacle.
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MisterStompy 8/9/2022 9:51 PM
The "Proud Boys" telegram is on one tonight. Openly threatening going to DC with their guns again.
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"the Proud Boys are not racist or anti semitic"
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Braakinthesaddle 8/9/2022 10:02 PM
"United States Constitution of America" 🤣 that sounds like a bot using an algorithm to spit out buzzwords (edited)
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"United States Constitution of America" 🤣 that sounds like a bot using an algorithm to spit out buzzwords (edited)
MisterStompy 8/9/2022 10:02 PM
Founder Fathers and the Magna Carta
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Founder Fathers and the Magna Carta
Braakinthesaddle 8/9/2022 10:02 PM
Storm the Bastille!!!
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"the Proud Boys are not racist or anti semitic"
TheAnonymousDew 8/10/2022 5:07 AM
Report them to the FBI ASAP
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thechromatograph3r 8/10/2022 9:34 AM
Hilarious how they’re suddenly anti-FBI after years of support them for investigating Hillary and Hunter.
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That's the thing that sticks out to me the most about these people. Like how do you not watch that group turn on anyone and anything that doesn't serve their purposes and not think "someday that may be me"?
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That's the thing that sticks out to me the most about these people. Like how do you not watch that group turn on anyone and anything that doesn't serve their purposes and not think "someday that may be me"?
thechromatograph3r 8/10/2022 9:47 AM
This can/does/will happen to anyone regarding anything.
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That was a confusing sentence
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And I haven't caffeinated yet. Help a brother out?
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Muh… sleppy 8/10/2022 11:29 AM
Boy I can’t wait for right wing militias starting a “2nd civil war” by just committing a mass shooting but on a city wide scale
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Wonder if it’s gonna happen in 2024 or 2028
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Boy I can’t wait for right wing militias starting a “2nd civil war” by just committing a mass shooting but on a city wide scale
everyone place your bets on what city
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Considering how much fash hate my state, Los Angeles. And it will definitely backfire
2:16 PM
also
2:17 PM
The FBI's raid on Mar-a-Lago was carried out while Donald Trump was absent in the hope it would be low-profile. The plan was a "spectacular" failure.
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Well no shit
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also that flag is fucking cringe
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Click to see attachment 🖼️
MisterStompy 8/10/2022 2:24 PM
Can we postpone the civil war til October? It's too fucking hot.
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Honestly we could use the heat to our advantage, Cut off water supply. Sweat em out.
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hypothetically
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of course
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thechromatograph3r 8/10/2022 3:22 PM
LISTEN to this death threat against my children. Since the FBI search of Mar-a-Lago, Trump, McCarthy, and MAGA Republicans are stoking violent rhetoric against lawmakers and law enforcement. Someone is going to get killed.
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Can we postpone the civil war til October? It's too fucking hot.
thechromatograph3r 8/10/2022 3:22 PM
Just in time for spooky season
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Honestly we could use the heat to our advantage, Cut off water supply. Sweat em out.
Braakinthesaddle 8/10/2022 4:02 PM
chuckles in Colorado River
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thechromatograph3r 8/10/2022 4:33 PM
Speaking for the first time since the FBI searched Former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate, FBI Director Christopher Wray told reporters in Omaha, NB he couldn’t get into the details. “Well, as I’m sure you can appreciate that’s not something I can talk about,” he said.
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thechromatograph3r 8/10/2022 4:47 PM
Two Indiana officers were suspended after a stunning courtroom revelation that police thought a potential town council candidate was anti-police and arrested him, stopping him from running for office. https://t.co/kftOoYIk2E
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Omaha, New Brunswick? Nebraska is NE Tweet at this guy and tell him he's racist against the Midwest
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MisterStompy 8/11/2022 1:46 PM
An armed individual attempted to breach the Federal Bureau of Investigation's building in Cincinnati, Ohio, on Thursday morning before fleeing the scene, the FBI said https://t.co/4u30MllZQJ
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thechromatograph3r 8/11/2022 2:10 PM
More info in #ohio
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TheAnonymousDew 8/11/2022 2:25 PM
I reported Steven Crowder for making terroristic threats
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Phijkchu (Sam) 8/11/2022 3:04 PM
All dogs go to heaven, all pigs go to….
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Hey guys, you may have noticed a new voice channel #vc-politics-royale. So if anyone wants to have a discussion in voice chat about politics/current events, I would be completely happy to set that up, or we could just do spontaneous chats ◝(⁰▿⁰)◜
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InCoNsEqUeNtIaL aRcHiVeS
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heinz_ketchup 8/11/2022 4:16 PM
as a Texan: Fuck Ted Cruz
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thechromatograph3r 8/11/2022 5:06 PM
Heard on AP 5pm news: former Va cop who stormed the Capitol has been sentenced to 7.25 years
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As a Citizen from Virginia, Good f---ing riddance
5:12 PM
Some more juicy sentencing
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There's really no good defense for him on this, if they are "inconsequential" records then he is too incompetent to follow basic requirements as a president. They've been asking for the records for so long now there's no good excuse.
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Yeah exactly, clearly trump is incompetent
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I know, I feel like I'm taking crazy pills any time I give him any kind of logical analysis. He's just a fucking asshole and we've known this the entire time.
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SO WE FOUND OUT WHAT TRUMP STOLE
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TheAnonymousDew 8/11/2022 8:40 PM
HOLY FUCK
8:49 PM
I gotta find a gif to sum up how bad this is
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but my quiet terror and anger knows no bounds rn
8:53 PM
assuming we survive our own bombs against us risk somehow, Trump is going to fucking jail
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no dice about it
8:53 PM
this is the biggest fucking screw up you can do
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you DO NOT fuck with military secrets
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especially nuclear military secrets
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and if this moron sold them, its treason on top of that, a real risk of Death penalty
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TheAnonymousDew 8/11/2022 8:56 PM
If the FBI did find nuclear documents and Trump tried to sell them to the highest bidder, that's a violation of the Espionage Act and punishable by 15 years in prison
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If he tried to sell them to the Russians or Chinese, then it's treason
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hence if
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TheAnonymousDew 8/11/2022 8:57 PM
Indeed
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both are bad
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TheAnonymousDew 8/11/2022 8:57 PM
Absolutely
8:57 PM
Trump needs to be railroaded for this
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but Trump made the Espionage Act a felony
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meaning if its not treason, his political career is likely dead
8:58 PM
but 15 years is a long time for his age
8:58 PM
the gop will surely split from this
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true believers are fucked
8:58 PM
but the opportunist will cause plenty of problems for both the inner gop and out
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TheAnonymousDew 8/11/2022 8:58 PM
This could very well end the Republican Party as a political entity
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Especially if the Republicans knew about it
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...you think that's why Tucker Carlson was shitting bricks yesterday?
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TheAnonymousDew 8/11/2022 8:59 PM
Possibly
8:59 PM
There's no way out of this for them
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Or way to defend this
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hopefully
9:00 PM
no wonder Garland was so fucking confident in releasing the warrent
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god fucking damn
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clever mfer
9:00 PM
real talk, truth IS stranger then fiction
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if you told me back in 2014 that the ex-President was a potential traitor to the country to the point of risk of selling nuclear secrets, I would have called you nuts
9:02 PM
this is some fucking Political drama-conspiracy thriller shit
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no
9:02 PM
this is some comics books shit
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Thank f---ing God I'm not in the MAGA cult anymore (edited)
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This could very well end the Republican Party as a political entity
I sure hope it is! American conservatives need a sledgehammer to the face for this s---
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TheAnonymousDew 8/11/2022 9:06 PM
There's no recovering from this in the eyes of American voters..
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Other than his MAGA cultists
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If the FBI did find nuclear documents and Trump tried to sell them to the highest bidder, that's a violation of the Espionage Act and punishable by 15 years in prison
Oh he better go to fucking prison
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If he tried to sell them to the Russians or Chinese, then it's treason
Or he already did behind everyone's back
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TheAnonymousDew 8/11/2022 9:08 PM
We're in deep shit if that's true
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And if he did, definitely treason
9:09 PM
Unless we can change our launch codes
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Trump has already ruined the world's perception of America, now this, great.
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Launch codes get changed with new pres
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TheAnonymousDew 8/11/2022 9:10 PM
Or worse the location of the US nuclear arsenal and amount of nukes we have
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however its also possible Trump had names and locations of the arsenals
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yup
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TheAnonymousDew 8/11/2022 9:10 PM
That's even more concerning
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Literally there's nuclear arsenals in almost every state. The amount of damage that location info could do is unimaginable
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Also operative names
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Which means the CIA is likely involved because they do not like it when you fuck with operative's identities
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To say the least
9:26 PM
BTW Ukraine is also heavily dependent on the CIA and European intelligence giving them all the fucking info they have on Russia rn
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...you think that's why Tucker Carlson was shitting bricks yesterday?
What do you mean by that? I never watch Fox so I never noticed
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Apparently yesterday Tucker announced to be taking a break and some behind the scenes rumors indicate that when news of the raid broke out, he was described in a panic
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No s--- he'd be panicking, trumpist sichophant
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And knows that if Trump is found a traitor, TRUMP WILL SNITCH
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thechromatograph3r 8/11/2022 10:11 PM
“Surely, Donald Trump stealing nuclear secrets will be enough to break away Republicans from him.” if y’all haven’t learned this lesson now you never will. The man can eat a live baby on national television and not a single Republican voter would give a shit.
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well yeah
10:22 PM
but its not about gop
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its about the non-political
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Aces high
its about the non-political
The Independents?
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independents, non-voters, low voters
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heinz_ketchup 8/11/2022 10:25 PM
qq: if somebody has super duper ultra code word secret classified files, and the FBI has to go in and get them, that means the FBI agents get to see the super duper secret stuff. how does that work? By virtue of being an FBI agent are you considered trustworthy enough for that? Is there some guy/girl with a high enough level clearance who goes in with them to verify the documents are in fact the ones sought?
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I would bet that they do have either FBI or other three letter agency officials with tippity toppity clearance who go with them
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that's right. Rick Wilson gets it.
thechromatograph3r 8/12/2022 8:23 AM
I love Rick Wilson
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TheAnonymousDew 8/12/2022 12:01 PM
While no the Trumpist base will stay loyal, the independents and moderates are gone now
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While no the Trumpist base will stay loyal, the independents and moderates are gone now
But whats the ratio of MAGA to moderate at this point?
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Anywhere from 20 to 30% Maybe less if Monkeypox gets them first
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thechromatograph3r 8/12/2022 2:21 PM
Yesterday, the US government moved to unseal the warrant with only the names of the FBI agents redacted. Meanwhile, the former president's team is leaking the unredacted documents to Breitbart, which is actively highlighting the names of the agents. https://t.co/tJTy7C0ihp
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Dr_Diskette 8/12/2022 2:29 PM
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MisterStompy 8/12/2022 2:43 PM
I remember somebody posted one of this guy's songs earlier (which is fine it's a hilarious song lol) but today I found out that Pepper Coyote is full on Nazbol https://twitter.com/peppercoyote/status/1556135305677348864
The @CPIUSA conference today was effin incredible. Amazing to unite with so many others against Imperialism.
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I'm not a furry, could somebody please explain to me why Nazi and Red Fascist furries are a thing?
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Trust me, even the furries don't know why they are a thing either. They do, however, know they are a fucking asshole who deserve to be driven out
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thechromatograph3r 8/12/2022 3:10 PM
Breitbart just posted the unredacted warrant. (I will not share here). This means that the FBI agents have just been doxed.
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What are the chances Breitbart realizes they just disclosed the Mar-a-Lago search is part of an Espionage Act investigation
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heinz_ketchup 8/12/2022 3:11 PM
whoa
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thechromatograph3r 8/12/2022 3:11 PM
NOW: The FBI agents took around 20 boxes of items, binders of photos, and handwritten notes including various classified/TS/SCI documents and four sets of top secret documents from Mar-a-Lago.
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BREAKING: Donald is under federal criminal investigation for: 2071: 3 years max and can’t hold office 793: (espionage act): 10 years max 1519: obstruction: 20 years max
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With a mole at Mar-a-Lago, a probable cause search warrant, and raid of his home, something tells me Garland isn't basing his charge of the Espionage Act solely on Trump hoarding top secret documents at Mar-a-Lago.
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The most unexpected statute that the DOJ cited to is 18 U.S.C. 1519, which is typically used to charge the obstruction of justice by destroying or concealing evidence. The statutory language is broad enough that DOJ could be investigating whether Trump impeded agency functions.
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Potential punishments for violations of the Espionage Act of 1917 range from fines of $10,000 and 20 years in prison to the death penalty.
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🚨 🚨 🚨Attachment B says they’re investigating 18 USC 793 under the Espionage Act - here is 18 USC 793 explainer per DOJ website:
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thechromatograph3r 8/12/2022 3:25 PM
Trump is being investigated for removal or destruction of records, obstruction of an investigation, and violating the Espionage Act - Politico
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A reminder of all the current investigations Trump is entangled in, of which we can now apparently add an Espionage Act violation
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MisterStompy 8/12/2022 3:27 PM
Yo quick question, what happened to the last people convicted of Espionage in the United States?
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Yo quick question, what happened to the last people convicted of Espionage in the United States?
thechromatograph3r 8/12/2022 3:31 PM
I'd hope they were executed.
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I'd hope they were executed.
MisterStompy 8/12/2022 3:32 PM
They were in fact executed.
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I don't believe in the death penalty but I'd feel great satisfaction if it were used here
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I don't believe in the death penalty but I'd feel great satisfaction if it were used here
thechromatograph3r 8/12/2022 3:48 PM
I support capital punishment for exactly one crime: treason.
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Such a high res Shaq
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I said it in general chat "but miscellaneous top secret documents" feels so nonchalant, I know they aren't going to spell out what they are, but still.
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I wanted Breibart gone but I didn't have "piss off the federal government by doxing undercover agents" on my bingo card
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I wanted Breibart gone but I didn't have "piss off the federal government by doxing undercover agents" on my bingo card
AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/12/2022 6:11 PM
pffft amateur
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Hey I had "Breibart has pissed off Trump and his supporters would attack the place" in leu of
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TheAnonymousDew 8/12/2022 9:54 PM
MSNBC confirms that the “Espionage Act” being used in the warrant means that there was evidence that Trump had transferred information to a third party (foreign gov’t or organization). This is a whole new level of treachery.
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Wow.
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Fuuuuuuuck
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Ok so I expected drama when the FBI raid happened, but I can fully say this is much more extreme than I thought was possible.
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We may be about to see a former president prosecuted for selling state secrets
10:08 PM
What the actual fuck
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Oh god..... When I threw out the chance that he may have already given copies of those documents to foreign governments, I wasn't expecting to be proven right
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I mean I think the statute in the warrant is the one that just says "third parties" so it may have just been some rando...
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I highly doubt it's 'just some rando' at this point
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Ugh. I wonder if we'll ever find out just how badly he screwed this country over.
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Nope, we will be dealing with the fallout for decades most likely.
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Welp
10:25 PM
if its the Saudis, I have a feeling Israel and the US are likely gonna fuck with Egypt/the Middle east.
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If its Russia, then the Proxy war is a seriously at risk becoming more...active
10:26 PM
both are fucked
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And if it's China?
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Same as Russia if not more. Tawian WILL get nukes on it
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Are you saying Trump selling secrets is an indicator of foreign policy?
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Are you saying Trump selling secrets is an indicator of foreign policy?
Might be. Will definitely explain how bold China has been
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How does selling secrets to the Saudis indicate we have any intention or desire to do anything with Egypt?
10:28 PM
I doubt Trump makes such decisions based on how he predicts the government will conduct operations after him.
10:29 PM
Most likely he wanted to gain personal leverages and wealth, not base things on the war market.
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Build more Trump Towers, etc.
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Trump makes decisions based on how good/ powerful it will make him feel at the time.
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HLMenckenFan 8/12/2022 10:30 PM
Indeed
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China hasn't been bold at all. Yeah, they threw a tantrum after Pelosi said hello, but that's not because they feel they have the power to challenge the US in a military conflict because Trump sold them a secret.
10:31 PM
This is just typical Chinese shouting after drawing red lines that were inevitably crossed.
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They're like North Korea, who will also throw a tantrum if we don't notice them for an extended period of time, just to remind us they exist.
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Also china is having some internal strife surrounding their housing market. No a bad way to distract the populace
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Right.
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But yeah you'll see similar out of strong man states all the time, trying to puff themselves up.
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Also china is having some internal strife surrounding their housing market. No a bad way to distract the populace
And rumors of another plague
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It's why so many thought Putin was bluffing Ukraine.
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Which backfired when Ukraine decided to punch right back
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But no, I don't think there is any connection between Trump transferring secrets to third parties, and US foreign policy, and I strongly disagree with the assertion that him selling things is because the US is planning specific and aggressive military actions. He is not prescient and I just feel that's a huge leap in logic to make.
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Oh no. But Trump was closed to Russia and Saudis for sure
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Close*
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Yeah he was building a tower in Moscow.
10:36 PM
Is? I think the sanctions put it on hold, but one of his stooges pled guilty to lying to Congress. Told them "it's cancelled" but it wasn't.
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I can see him selling secrets for his own leverage and gain, but not because the US is planning military actions.
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But those parties sure as fuck would like to know
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Documents from his presidency don't tell them what the US is planning two years later.
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I could see it as a way to either get on someone's good side/ pay off a debt...
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Saudis even pretty much state only GOP are either allies because Dems immediately stopped the money line officially
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Rather it could be technical data, locations, contingencies, deals with allies.
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Still bad
10:38 PM
Especially contingency shit
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I didn't say it was good. I'm saying, this is not a live intel feed he's leeching off of. These are documents, paper, specifically. Records.
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There was also info about France's president found in Mar-a-lago
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Likely NATO business.
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Which Putin would like to know
10:40 PM
Especially with France making it a point to kick Russia while it's down
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Certainly, probably for those meetings Macron insisted on having that resulted on nothing.
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There's also a very real possibility of our allies considering titling the GOP a terrorist cell too
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Humorous, but not happening.
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Canada was in talks with Biden about J6 and the proud boys and no way in hell they didn't muse it either
10:41 PM
Unlikely
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QAnon, maybe? Proud Boys are already terrorists in Canada I believe.
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But non impossible
10:41 PM
Most likely
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A major political party is not going to be labeled as terrorists by our own allies.
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Those little factions within, yeah, possibly.
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Definitely
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It would be proud boys, and oath keepers being designated. If they haven't done so already
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But it's already something similar. Proud boys and QAnon being targeted will target a huge chunk of the GOP
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Sure, but it's not the same. Same effect, lot of the same people, but our allies are not going to say "The Republican Party of the United States are terrorists." That's absurd, they'd be calling half of Congress a bunch of terrorists equivalent to Al Qaeda and Boko Haram.
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They have hard right-wing constituents in their own countries as well.
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Particularly France.
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yup
10:46 PM
although the right wing fuckery in Canada had hit a snag with the truck thing
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namely, the city they squatted in did not fucking like them and made it apparent. Violently
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I remember them being made fun of, but what violence happened?
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Counter protesters came in
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mostly noise warfare, some people did get hit with bricks and trash, at least one truck somehow lost their tires
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Then the cops broke it up
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Got it
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there's more and it wasn't a riot-riot but definitely a mix of cops finally coming in and locals threatening raining bricks
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Gotcha
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I really enjoyed the copycat shit here where they got started just as lockdowns were ending and lost the thing they were purportedly protesting (edited)
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wheeze
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That and they wanted to annoy people by blocking traffic in DC I think, which already has really bad traffic so nothing changed.
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Yep
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Also no one wanted to burn the gas
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shit didn't a lot of them got road-raged off the road that did show up?
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And wasn't this also at like the peak of gas price hikes?
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near pike
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Their nothingburger turned into a shitburger and I was here for it
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glorious\
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Kind of like that video of the MAGA dipshits at a city council meeting and another dude just cry laughing at them
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Ill considered, Ill prepared, Ill thought out like most GOP ideas recently
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that said, there were those two gunmen who tried to target Harris, only to get shot back by soldiers. They got close but they ran off before they could be identified. Lotta people think they were with the convoy fuckery
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Shitty political theater behind a very thin curtain
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that said, there were those two gunmen who tried to target Harris, only to get shot back by soldiers. They got close but they ran off before they could be identified. Lotta people think they were with the convoy fuckery
I genuinely don't remember this
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I haven't heard about that either
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let me find it
10:56 PM
it was a minor thing but there was a attempt against the VP
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A military base in Maryland where Vice President Kamala Harris and other top U.S. officials made a brief stop was placed on lockdown Sunday evening due to a security breach. Early reports spoke of an active shooter situation, though later, it was reported there was an "armed individual" and no…
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found it
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was in Maryland
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Damn
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Damn
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provided, Harris and co were in take off, but the gunman(men?) did get on the base before running off
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Feels like there have been a lot of attempts that have failed. God forbid one of them works.
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Right
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Ironically if one works, that would cause absolute Hell for the GOP
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Nah, they'd deny it, or disavow it, or just blame it on antifa.
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well them yes
11:13 PM
but generally killing a president tends to be a source of rage for everyone else
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Black Magic 8/13/2022 12:16 AM
Context: the trump docs.
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But no, if Biden were hurt god forbid; it would be hell to pay if Harris or pelosi ended up as president
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I am right now most worried about Obama
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oh no, all are fucking bad
12:23 AM
but killing Obama will piss off the left and probably half of the world
12:23 AM
Obama was hellva respected
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Black Magic 8/13/2022 2:32 AM
I am worried it would serve as the rallying cry for the traitors to “start”
2:32 AM
But all of this is dark and scary; more scary than shit has ever been before
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Its also darkest before the dawn too. As cliche as that shit sounds. Keep a eye out, network and gather allies when you can and have a gameplan
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thechromatograph3r 8/13/2022 11:21 AM
TOPEKA, Kan. (AP) — Kansas’ elections director says the state will go along with a request for a hand recount of votes from every county after last week’s decisive statewide vote affirming abortion rights, even though there was a 165,000-vote difference and a recount won’t change the result.
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Honestly considering the tendency when they do recounts, it will probably just increase the amount of votes for keeping abortion
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Good. Let them realize the gravity of their situation!
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They arguably already did given a 165000 difference and that's why there's doing this
12:31 PM
Because sore losers
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No, they're still in denial.
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They won't realize the gravity of it, until it's undeniable.
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Black Magic 8/13/2022 3:11 PM
No.. they'll just insist they really won
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because they're morons who don't think about consequences
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I really meant for the political leadership who are subject to legal consequences and possibly lose voters if they were to ignore it.
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I really don't give two thoughts to an uneducated beatnik's ranting and raving, I care about the decisions that get made.
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Right now the bulk of their constituents are opposed to outlawing abortion. A recount will only prove that point further to them, it's not going undo the results like they hope.
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thechromatograph3r 8/13/2022 3:58 PM
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thechromatograph3r 8/13/2022 4:06 PM
Prosecutors could indict Trump — under 18 USC 1001/1519 — if he intentionally gave his lawyer false info to pass to DOJ. Smart prosecutors can put lawyer on stand and ask narrow questions. Don’t take my word for it. Just ask Paul Manafort’s chief prosecutor @AWeissmann_. 1/4
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GLORIOUS
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but seriously
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DOJ don't fuck around most of the time
4:52 PM
18 counts is no joke. One of those is 15+ years, give or take on the severity of the situation
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HLMenckenFan 8/13/2022 10:59 PM
This is Garrett Ziegler, the twatwaffle that disclosed the FBI agents information on Truth Social. Little wannabe Nazi.
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ah yes this man is gonna be ghosted ain't he?
11:45 PM
also Rand Paul is probably under investigation
11:47 PM
because he now wants to repeal the Espionage act
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TheAnonymousDew 8/14/2022 1:02 AM
The issue is the DOJ and FBI have been sitting on their hands when dealing with right wing terrorism for years. Charlottesville should have been the wakeup call. But NOPE, the FBI continued to sit there with it's thumb up it's ass Now it's boiled over (edited)
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tbh from what I've read that's been available to the public, they've been sounding the alarms since Waco, for the post part. Bush decided to using the political capital to combat overseas/Invade Iraq instead
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thechromatograph3r 8/14/2022 9:53 AM
Hm… Rand Paul suddenly wants to repeal the Espionage Act: https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1558579480171614209?cxt=HHwWgsC83fHxl6ErAAAA (edited)
The espionage act was abused from the beginning to jail dissenters of WWI. It is long past time to repeal this egregious affront to the 1st Amendment. Repeal the Espionage Act – The Future of Freedom Foundation https://t.co/3KCgujpS9z
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thechromatograph3r 8/14/2022 10:15 AM
‼️ @CBSNews has obtained DHS/FBI bulletin warning of "an increase in violent threats posted on social media against federal officials and facilities, including a threat to place a so-called dirty bomb in front of FBI HQ and issuing general calls for 'civil war"(h/t @NicoleSganga)
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This includes threats that are "specific in identifying proposed targets, tactics, or weaponry," including law enforcement, judges, and government officials. Also notes attempted breach of FBI building in Ohio on Thursday.
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WASHINGTON (AP) — A man drove his car into a barricade near the U.S. Capitol early Sunday and then began firing gunshots in the air from the burning car before fatally shooting himself, police said.
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not even like a hour later, some dude does that
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idiot
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HLMenckenFan 8/14/2022 2:41 PM
I wonder what drove him to do that
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I wonder what drove him to do that
his car (badum-tiss)
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@Nomad boooooo!
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HLMenckenFan 8/14/2022 3:46 PM
lol
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Watching CNN rn and they have Yang on, but he is backtracking a bit on his statement
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It helps the newscaster straight up told him that he was trying to get Trump off the hook and how STUPID that is
4:09 PM
Yang admits that he his thoughts have changed given how serious the situation is becoming
4:09 PM
Still tool, but at least he's realizing how bad this looks
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Still tool, but at least he's realizing how bad this looks
MisterStompy 8/14/2022 4:13 PM
I used to like him a lot. Feel like a real goofball, let me tell ya.
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I had to shut off CNN last night because I couldn't stand listening to him defend trump
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I actually always got bad vibes from Yang
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But I have a knack for sensing when someone's gonna be trouble
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HLMenckenFan 8/14/2022 4:36 PM
I'm glad you do
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I used to like him a lot. Feel like a real goofball, let me tell ya.
WojtektheBear 8/14/2022 6:00 PM
You and me stompy
6:00 PM
I was charmed by the fact that he was a 2016 bernie person and his sincerity
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MisterStompy 8/14/2022 6:08 PM
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god I wished
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MisterStompy 8/14/2022 9:03 PM
goddamn dude
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MisterStompy
goddamn dude
heinz_ketchup 8/14/2022 10:33 PM
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goddamn dude
Shit. Thats a whole lot of rhetoric
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Aces high
also Rand Paul is probably under investigation
AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/15/2022 10:11 AM
I'd like to know what was in the letter he hand-delivered to Vladimir fucking Putin
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goddamn dude
thechromatograph3r 8/15/2022 1:17 PM
Badge I’d wear proudly
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heinz_ketchup 8/15/2022 3:28 PM
’There is tremendous anger in the country, at a level that has never been seen before, other than during very perilous times,’ former president says
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Trump's passports got yoinked
3:37 PM
They got a case
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TheAnonymousDew 8/15/2022 3:37 PM
If anybody commits an act of terrorism because of this, add "Solicitation to commit a violent crime" to the list of federal charges this slimeball faces (edited)
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Man this is a real gut check for how prepared I feel for sthf situation
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Trump's passports got yoinked
AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/15/2022 5:02 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if he at least tries to escape to Russia before all this is over. For the Russians, this is a best case scenario for them.
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I wouldn't be surprised if he at least tries to escape to Russia before all this is over. For the Russians, this is a best case scenario for them.
Doubt that, they are a tad busy in Ukraine right now to take advantage imo. No doubt this is what they hoped for but with everything else they are not in a position to capitalize on it.
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especially with Crimea getting bombed like hell rn
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Ukraine wants it back
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I wouldn't be surprised if he at least tries to escape to Russia before all this is over. For the Russians, this is a best case scenario for them.
They're gonna have to smuggle him out on a fishing boat or something
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Man this is a real gut check for how prepared I feel for sthf situation
WojtektheBear 8/15/2022 10:05 PM
Same G, but my long term planning revolves around being ready by ‘24 instead of now :/
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thechromatograph3r
Is that a fucking threat?
WojtektheBear 8/15/2022 10:06 PM
In a very vague mafia way yeah
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@WojtektheBear I went through a dry run, packing all my shit yesterday when I got home from work. I think i'd be fine for like a day are to, but beyond that... things would get difficult very quickly if I had to bug out :/
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
I wouldn't be surprised if he at least tries to escape to Russia before all this is over. For the Russians, this is a best case scenario for them.
TheAnonymousDew 8/16/2022 5:39 AM
Thing is Trump will no longer be useful to them
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He's looselipped, and could reveal everything if he is indeed compromised
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thechromatograph3r 8/16/2022 7:24 PM
Massive win for transgender people in the US 4th Circuit Court of Appeals. The US Court of Appeals rules that the Americans with Disabilities Act protects transgender people. Trans people MUST be afforded all accommodations, medical interventions, cannot be unduly targeted.
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thechromatograph3r 8/16/2022 10:26 PM
“Two years ago, I won this primary with 73% of votes. I could have easily done the same tonight,” Liz Cheney says. But it would have required her to go along with Trump’s election lie, she says. “That was a path I could not, and would not, take.”
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10:26 PM
FINAL: The 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach Trump Gonzalez — RETIRING Katko — RETIRING Kinzinger — RETIRING Upton — RETIRING Cheney — LOST PRIMARY Herrera Beutler — LOST PRIMARY Meijer — LOST PRIMARY Rice — LOST PRIMARY Newhouse — WON PRIMARY Valadao — WON PRIMARY
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According to CBS News polling, "If a candidate says Joe Biden did not win, Republicans say they're more likely to vote for that candidate by a very wide margin," says @SalvantoCBS, giving context as to why Rep. Liz Cheney is struggling at the polls in Wyoming tonight.
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thechromatograph3r 8/16/2022 10:30 PM
GOP: a domestic terrorist organization
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HLMenckenFan 8/16/2022 10:32 PM
A friend shared me this link. Holy shit
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thechromatograph3r 8/16/2022 10:42 PM
Hey, FBI, stop monitoring our stupid banter and go thwart actual terrorists.
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HLMenckenFan 8/16/2022 10:43 PM
They're in the Republican Party
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thechromatograph3r 8/17/2022 9:49 AM
NEWS: Jeff Larson, the chairman of America Rising (and once CEO of the 2016 GOP convention), was asked to step down after it was revealed he was aiding pro-Cheney efforts in WY. He is no longer chairman. Cheney had aimed to purge Trump. And yet... https://t.co/fSZbS7PLpm
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Today, Rudy Giuliani is set to testify before the Atlanta-area grand jury investigating Trump's interference in the 2020 election.
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heinz_ketchup 8/17/2022 10:42 AM
how does the US government have any self-respect when Russia is just bragging, "our agent got to be president, got Lavrov a visit in the oval office, got all the TS/SCI intel, and you haven't done shit to stop us".
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What time does Giuliano's testimony start? And are people gonna be live tweeting it?
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thechromatograph3r 8/17/2022 1:02 PM
Omg. New Jersey takes blood samples from every newborn and then stores the blood — for decades. State police have been subpoenaing the blood for criminal cases. @terrencemcd found out, made a record request, is now suing for records. (h/t @emilylmullin) https://t.co/ZP0eX1CtgD
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JUST IN: Former Vice President Mike Pence indicated on Wednesday morning that he would consider testifying before the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol. https://t.co/8FNfKOtgnG
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I knew the threats against Boston Children's were bad, but holy hell, this is so beyond the pale. They are threatening to murder doctors. This is the same forum where people were calling for violence against the FBI last week. https://t.co/ULHUU3rd1J
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Former Vice President Mike Pence also said he would consider talking to the Jan. 6 committee if he were “summoned to testify.”
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TheAnonymousDew 8/17/2022 1:05 PM
Disgusted but not surprised. As far as I'm concerned whoever owns that account should be facing solitication charges
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Definitely feels like they are trying to incite something.
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Definitely feels like they are trying to incite something.
thechromatograph3r 8/17/2022 1:14 PM
I mean, right-wingers are literally and openly calling for civil war now, and it's being condoned by sitting officials.
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@thechromatograph3r yeah and if they get booked they claim the victim card, like they are above the law or any form of consequences
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how does the US government have any self-respect when Russia is just bragging, "our agent got to be president, got Lavrov a visit in the oval office, got all the TS/SCI intel, and you haven't done shit to stop us".
It makes this vet fucking furious. It's hard to turn off the impulse to defend this fucked up country
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TheAnonymousDew 8/17/2022 6:16 PM
The attacks on public education are deliberate
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Why do you think slaves in the Antebellum South were forbidden from reading or writing?
8:11 PM
This is coming from that Libs of Tiktok account on Twitter
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how does the US government have any self-respect when Russia is just bragging, "our agent got to be president, got Lavrov a visit in the oval office, got all the TS/SCI intel, and you haven't done shit to stop us".
To be fair, we might have to, with rumor mill hinting Ukraine is hitting into Russia now
8:17 PM
those St Javilins are coming from somewhere after all
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@Aces high Ukraine has been hitting into Russia since like the beginning, those mi-8s and mi-24s the blew up that fuel depot early on probably were rouge.
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well duh, but I mean actual inland Russia now
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Its pretty much all but stated they want Crimera back (admittedly as they should)
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They want everything back at this point crimea, Donetsk, Luhansk.
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Donetsk is going to stay with Ukraine
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the whole war started with them invading Donetsk
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really that's just a matter of principle at this point
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thechromatograph3r 8/18/2022 7:40 AM
Chuck Grassley voted against Inflation Reduction Act, which caps Medicare patients’ out-of-pocket costs, as well as an amendment to lower insulin costs for other patients
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heinz_ketchup 8/18/2022 9:26 AM
TIL Louie Gohmert is leaving congress, having given up his seat to run for Texas AG and lost the primary against Ken Paxton. I'll take any win these days.
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thechromatograph3r 8/18/2022 12:22 PM
NEW YORK (AP) — A top executive at former President Donald Trump’s family business pleaded guilty Thursday to evading taxes in a deal with prosecutors that could make him a star witness against the company at a trial this fall.
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Collins ended his speech by pleading with his peers, choked up with tears, telling them, "What we do matters." Glad he finally realized it.
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In a unanimous order, the South Carolina Supreme Court has blocked the state's ban on abortion after about six weeks of pregnancy (SB 1), granting providers' emergency motion for a temporary injunction while litigation proceeds.
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the Carolinas are one of the least overtly fucked red states and have gotten close to blue before
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We in the Carolina's are still fucked it feels like unfortunately.
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We in the Carolina's are still fucked it feels like unfortunately.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/18/2022 2:57 PM
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if you're not out canvassing or phone banking every cycle I don't wanna hear it.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
if you're not out canvassing or phone banking every cycle I don't wanna hear it.
WojtektheBear 8/18/2022 3:06 PM
I appreciate you’re enthusiasm and you’re not really going after this person I’d just recommend you keep mind people’s conflicts snd availability. Honestly this does ride the line between being strident and just rude
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You don’t know this person, you’re not front their state, and you seem to be telling them they’re not doing enough rather than encouraging them to be involved
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WojtektheBear
I appreciate you’re enthusiasm and you’re not really going after this person I’d just recommend you keep mind people’s conflicts snd availability. Honestly this does ride the line between being strident and just rude
AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/18/2022 3:07 PM
your* And none of us are doing enough, that's why this discord exists to encourage each other to do more.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
your* And none of us are doing enough, that's why this discord exists to encourage each other to do more.
WojtektheBear 8/18/2022 3:08 PM
Just watch your attitude it sounded like you were scolding this person rather than encouraging and that’s way the hell out of your lane. Also, correcting my spelling when you know my meaning is unambiguously pretty annoying. (edited)
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WojtektheBear
Just watch your attitude it sounded like you were scolding this person rather than encouraging and that’s way the hell out of your lane. Also, correcting my spelling when you know my meaning is unambiguously pretty annoying. (edited)
AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/18/2022 3:10 PM
You are not the arbiter of what my lane is. I appreciate the difficulty of your job of keeping a bunch of folks civil who have problems with authority like myself, but buzz off on this power trip of yours. It's unambiguously pretty annoying.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
You are not the arbiter of what my lane is. I appreciate the difficulty of your job of keeping a bunch of folks civil who have problems with authority like myself, but buzz off on this power trip of yours. It's unambiguously pretty annoying.
WojtektheBear 8/18/2022 3:11 PM
I absolutely do help determine what’s appropriate rhetoric in this server. I have been pretty polite if curt with you. Trust me chief, this ain’t no power trip
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WojtektheBear
I absolutely do help determine what’s appropriate rhetoric in this server. I have been pretty polite if curt with you. Trust me chief, this ain’t no power trip
WojtektheBear 8/18/2022 3:11 PM
And if you continue to be rude to admins I’m happy to give you a time out
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And if you continue to be rude to admins I’m happy to give you a time out
AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/18/2022 3:11 PM
but you're definitely not power tripping.
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but you're definitely not power tripping.
WojtektheBear 8/18/2022 3:12 PM
*if
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Completely up to you
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I just appreciate the irony of being talked to about potential rudeness, and leading the response with a grammar correction. I love it (edited)
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Completely up to you
AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/18/2022 3:13 PM
it really ain't if you're becoming what you swore to fight against. If Simpsons memes are not appropriate rhetoric I will happily take whatever power tripping bull you want to force on me.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
it really ain't if you're becoming what you swore to fight against. If Simpsons memes are not appropriate rhetoric I will happily take whatever power tripping bull you want to force on me.
WojtektheBear 8/18/2022 3:15 PM
Lmfao man, I’m just gonna let your words hang you. Others can decide if you’re being rude and I’m sure they’ll chime in. All things considered this is less bad than your sermon so I’d say your behavior is improving
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Lmfao man, I’m just gonna let your words hang you. Others can decide if you’re being rude and I’m sure they’ll chime in. All things considered this is less bad than your sermon so I’d say your behavior is improving
AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/18/2022 3:16 PM
I really don't care what others think of me either, in case that wasn't aboundingly clear. We're on the same side, doesn't mean I have to like your petty abuses of power.
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But if you'd like to continue to make snide insults, I'm happy to tell you what a shitty admin you are.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
I really don't care what others think of me either, in case that wasn't aboundingly clear. We're on the same side, doesn't mean I have to like your petty abuses of power.
WojtektheBear 8/18/2022 3:16 PM
I have literally not abused my power but if you feel put on the spot I’m happy to just DM you
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
But if you'd like to continue to make snide insults, I'm happy to tell you what a shitty admin you are.
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WojtektheBear
I have literally not abused my power but if you feel put on the spot I’m happy to just DM you
AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/18/2022 3:17 PM
No you just threaten to. You're acting like a cop.
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But if you'd like to continue to make snide insults, I'm happy to tell you what a shitty admin you are.
WojtektheBear 8/18/2022 3:17 PM
Now we’re just being ad hominem
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
No you just threaten to. You're acting like a cop.
WojtektheBear 8/18/2022 3:17 PM
Lol all rules are laws and all admins are cops
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
No you just threaten to. You're acting like a cop.
WojtektheBear 8/18/2022 3:17 PM
Seriously. This is getting spammy. Stop.
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WojtektheBear
Lol all rules are laws and all admins are cops
AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/18/2022 3:18 PM
And nuance is dead to the sole arbiter of truth and justice for mr pls dont mute me mr admin i will lick ur boots
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thechromatograph3r 8/18/2022 3:18 PM
Elrisitas_rebotar 2
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
And nuance is dead to the sole arbiter of truth and justice for mr pls dont mute me mr admin i will lick ur boots
WojtektheBear 8/18/2022 3:18 PM
Alright you’re being really weird
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If you're not upholding the rules of the community and treating others with respect, I don't want to hear it.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
And nuance is dead to the sole arbiter of truth and justice for mr pls dont mute me mr admin i will lick ur boots
Man, you are clairvoyant, i was just about to ask if a timed mute was abusing power, since this banter is not productive. (edited)
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Alright you’re being really weird
AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/18/2022 3:19 PM
I have problems with overly controlling admins. They rub me the wrong way. Go boss around your local homeowner's association instead why don't you?
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Man, you are clairvoyant, i was just about to ask if a timed mute was abusing power, since this banter is not productive. (edited)
AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/18/2022 3:20 PM
I didn't realize we muted anything that's unproductive.
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Man, you are clairvoyant, i was just about to ask if a timed mute was abusing power, since this banter is not productive. (edited)
thechromatograph3r 8/18/2022 3:20 PM
Comma splice! 😘
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"We" is too many people
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You seem to have a lot of problems with a lot of things, it seems. Go practice introspection instead, why don't you? (edited)
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You seem to have a lot of problems with a lot of things, it seems. Go practice introspection instead, why don't you? (edited)
AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/18/2022 3:21 PM
oh it's my favorite dipshit how I longed for your uneducated non-sequiturs.
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thechromatograph3r 8/18/2022 3:21 PM
Let's take a page from the book of Project Owl and avoid dogpiling.
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Comma splice! 😘
I am on my first week of day shift in months, i cannot brain
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thechromatograph3r 8/18/2022 3:22 PM
But seriously, it's just politics on the internet. Let's all take a breath here.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/18/2022 3:24 PM
Don't act like republicans if you don't want my ire. Admins who act exactly like those sad little mods who can't handle any criticism do not sit well with me.
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This is too much angst for me, Im gonna.... Go drive for an hour or something
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"Hey man, you should try to be mindful of what other people are doing and less assuming" "Tyranny! This is oppression! Help, I am being oppressed!"
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
Don't act like republicans if you don't want my ire. Admins who act exactly like those sad little mods who can't handle any criticism do not sit well with me.
WojtektheBear 8/18/2022 3:26 PM
Aight I’m actually gonna warn you now: talk like that to me, anyone else on this server or admins today and it’s absolutely a time out. This isn’t a power trip, I’m asking everyone to calm down like Corvo said. Please respect the rules
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 8/18/2022 3:26 PM
oh no a time out whatever will I do
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
oh no a time out whatever will I do
WojtektheBear 8/18/2022 3:27 PM
See you tomorrowAlex, if I see you behave like this again, it’s a week.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
oh no a time out whatever will I do
Drink a shot or something maybe
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So How bout them sportsteams?
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Hmmm sports teams is good. But what else did I miss? Lmao.
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Braakinthesaddle 8/18/2022 6:58 PM
Me: *finally logs in after spending all day at my internship orientation Discord:
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A new ad from Gaetz's primary opponent makes provocative-but-unproven claims — a strategy the Florida congressman knows well.
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#ProtectTransKids
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Yeah just in case anyone was kidding themselves that November is do or die, we basically have to win both the Senate and the house or else we're looking at even more extreme rollback of human rights.
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Don't get me wrong, there's plenty we'll still have to fight the Democrats on, but I'd rather go toe to toe with them any day than actual literal Nazis and Nazi sympathizers
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Black Magic 8/20/2022 5:26 AM
We need to Make 3rd parties in our local spaces. By this I mean, parties that focus on county and city seats.
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each of our 3rd parties needs to do hard work in local spaces, and than slowly grinding their way to sustainable options at state, and eventually federal levels. But no 3rd party that just apears and wants to run for senate / congress or other should be trusted
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Support the DEMs for now.
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BubsyFanboy 8/20/2022 10:42 AM
https://thecradle.co/Article/News/14352 May not be strictly US-related, but the US does still buy oil from them and also subsidizes it (therefore encouraging further use), so... (edited)
The kingdom killed 120 detainees in the first half of the year, returning to the pre-COVID levels of executions
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MisterStompy 8/20/2022 12:25 PM
This sentiment some elements of the extreme right have towards the extreme right needs to be spread to the rest of them. This is how they all thought pre-Trump. https://www.reddit.com/r/TopMindsOfReddit/comments/wt7tbj/top_mind_demands_the_gop_stop_submitting_to/ (edited)
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MisterStompy 8/20/2022 3:54 PM
Black voters challenging Georgia’s method of electing members to the state’s public service commission scored a preliminary US supreme court order in their favor late Friday. The decision came after conflicting rulings from lower courts earlier this month, offering up a rare example of the supreme court’s 6-3 conservative majority’s siding with ...
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This sentiment some elements of the extreme right have towards the extreme right needs to be spread to the rest of them. This is how they all thought pre-Trump. https://www.reddit.com/r/TopMindsOfReddit/comments/wt7tbj/top_mind_demands_the_gop_stop_submitting_to/ (edited)
heinz_ketchup 8/20/2022 4:34 PM
its scary how much the right wing invents these victimhood fantasies which they use to justify torture and murder of people they don't like. Even when they get everything the want, SCOTUS ruling their way, states enacting all sorts of Jesus madness, anybody can get whatever gun they want and carry it however they like, nobody stops right wing organizations from protesting en masse with tactical gear and guns, and yet they still act like everything is terrible for them and they are a persecuted minority and call for the blood of people who just want to help them get cheaper healthcare.
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Welp, Kavanaugh really doesn't want his neighbors to try to get him killed again, probably figure to have this so there's a façade of legitimacy. Especially after the illegitimate roe overturning
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This sentiment some elements of the extreme right have towards the extreme right needs to be spread to the rest of them. This is how they all thought pre-Trump. https://www.reddit.com/r/TopMindsOfReddit/comments/wt7tbj/top_mind_demands_the_gop_stop_submitting_to/ (edited)
HLMenckenFan 8/20/2022 10:27 PM
This is pure evil
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MisterStompy 8/21/2022 12:00 AM
"Sailor, the Devil is in the Kremlin, not Ukraine!"
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MisterStompy 8/21/2022 2:08 AM
I have mixed feelings about Keffals because I've heard she has shown some passive support for Russia and China, but regardless her being targeted is not because of her political beliefs but because she's trans and that's unacceptable. Anyway, she was recently targetted for swatting by Kiwifarms who you might have heard of (they're not good people) and she's recently ran afoul of Andy Ngo. Kiwifarms is now doxxing a bunch of cops for... some reason and Andy Ngo is harassing a bunch of actual journalists. If this leads to Kiwifarms and Andy Ngo getting taken down by Keffals I will 100% give her kudos for that regardless of past statements on the Soviet Union or whatever. https://twitter.com/keffals/status/1561096723912687619
Andy Ngô says that Kiwifarms "features information about far-left extremists" meanwhile in my thread they are attempting to dox the chief of police in my city
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One of the journalists Andy Ngo is spamming with harassment https://twitter.com/AhmarSKhan/status/1561163912070189056
Andy Ngo's in my DMs questioning my journalism on the doxxing/swatting of Clara Sorrenti (@keffals) and casually stating Kiwi Farms is simply against Antifa, nothing more. Ngo masquerades as a journalist carrying water for right-wing groups. Here's a thread on his 'journalism'
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Yeah same feelings on keffals. I may not agree with her on everything but you better believe imma help her fight these douchebags. The harassment she's gotten from them is just absolutely inhumane. And she's just the latest, they've harassed so many people, some of whom have later committed suicide.
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MisterStompy 8/21/2022 6:27 PM
okay so remember those tankies/red fascists I posted a while back who did that little conference in Chicago where they held up the "Z" sign and played that weird Russian accent version of the national anthem?
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Some... stuff happened
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okay so remember those tankies/red fascists I posted a while back who did that little conference in Chicago where they held up the "Z" sign and played that weird Russian accent version of the national anthem?
heinz_ketchup 8/21/2022 6:27 PM
go on.....
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MisterStompy 8/21/2022 6:28 PM
Well see their leader was kind of running the whole thing as a cult which doesn't surprise me but like
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uh
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uhhhhhh
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Caleb Maupin was
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lmao
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I really don't know if I should give all the details but now I know why he was so obsessed with "degeneracy" destroying the west
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Well I mean Caleb might have been drinking
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And like keep in mind I'm not saying what Caleb did was wrong but like, it's the hypocrisy
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And the blackmail and like taking advantage of financially desperate "comrades" and
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Look I'm just gonna say the BDSM community roundly disavows who is now being referred to as the "Spanky Tankie"
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heinz_ketchup 8/21/2022 6:31 PM
oh wow
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MisterStompy 8/21/2022 6:32 PM
yeeeeeaaaaah
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Anyway, topical, here's Caleb Maupin sitting next to Alexander Dugin
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I found out about all this because I have a few furry friends and they told me that the Pepper Coyote guy was involved with the CPI
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So like Pepper Coyote got banned from going all ot these conventions all so that he could show loyalty to a cult that would dissolve less than a month later because it's leader was financially blackmailing suboordinates into being his "social media coaches" as he put it
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Anyway I just feel that this proves to me that I was right in my stance that while communism in itself is not a threat to American stability, the biggest threat comes from their very possible collaboration with fascists due to preferring any type of authoritarianism over democracy
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The higher ups had to have known
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doesn't shock me in the slightest
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MisterStompy 8/21/2022 7:05 PM
Wow. Former Russian MP Ilya Ponomarev says Russian partisan group, The National Republican Army, is responsible for the Dugina car bomb. “This attack opens a new page in Russian resistance to Putinism. New – but not the last.” https://t.co/ZqGeCnpKsH
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official theme song of the Russian National Republican Army https://youtu.be/7fV3USe9dlU
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MisterStompy 8/21/2022 7:36 PM
gonna post a better formatted version of the "call to arms"
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heinz_ketchup 8/21/2022 7:49 PM
good work friend
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Black Magic 8/21/2022 7:54 PM
I am going to talk about a scenario I consider unlikely
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if CHINA does decide to attack taiwan; it will likely not make its opening bid against Taiwan it self.
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We should assume that China is under no illusions about a Conflict with the U.S. or its inevitability in the event of an invasion.
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Also; a war with the U.S. and China is war agaisnt the clock for China.
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The longer the war goes on; the more time the U.S. has to mobilize its capacity for war... which is insurmountable.
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Also, the involvment of Key U.S. allies is assured ( japan and Australia) and so there is no particular need to play nice with them.
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I predict that a Chinese Opening strike will not focu on Taiwan; but Japan.
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They will attempt to cripple not just Okinawa but also the Largest civilian airports
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If they are feeling particularly bold; they may even chose to gamble a large portion of their Blue water fleet; in a strike agaisnt GUAM
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I cannot predict the success rate of those opening strikes; but if they do indeed make them.. they will be motivated by a desire to Prevent a U.S. blockade of South China choke points
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Best case scenario ( for china) is a U.S. navy that either crippled or shocked into timidity for a period of time. Either way; if they can prevent U.S. Blockades' than they can substantially increase their odds of winning.
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Worst case scenario for China is that it disables crucial bases for U.S. war effort; likely keeping Japanese air bases out of the war for many weeks or months,
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If Chinese opening bid to Cripple U.S. navy fails; than the outcome of the war is all but garunteed.
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U.S. Navy becomes a noose; that is forced to stay far from Chinese shores for a while.. but slowly Chinese Air force is widdled down to symbolic numbers.
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U.S. Early warning at Guam would be a handful of hours; but only minutes at Okinawa.
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Black Magic 8/21/2022 8:32 PM
NUCLEAR War is unlikely even in the event of an unlikey U.S-Chinese war
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But if I am red-teaming; my bet would be China follows this attack plan.
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NUCLEAR War is unlikely even in the event of an unlikey U.S-Chinese war
MisterStompy 8/21/2022 9:17 PM
I can see China going nuclear when they start getting pushed back.
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As a way of saving face. Totalitarian regimes don't do well after their militaries get rekt.
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Look I'm just gonna say the BDSM community roundly disavows who is now being referred to as the "Spanky Tankie"
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BubsyFanboy 8/22/2022 6:46 AM
https://theowp.org/on-paper-but-not-in-practice-ukrainian-women-refugees-abandoned-by-polands-abortion-laws/ Reminder that Ukrainian women still have serious problems thanks to Poland's draconian abortion laws
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https://theowp.org/on-paper-but-not-in-practice-ukrainian-women-refugees-abandoned-by-polands-abortion-laws/ Reminder that Ukrainian women still have serious problems thanks to Poland's draconian abortion laws
thechromatograph3r 8/22/2022 12:54 PM
A grim look into life as a pregnant woman in the U.S.
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NBC News poll: "Threats to democracy" is now the issue voters list as the most important facing the U.S. "Cost of living," "jobs and the economy," and "immigration" all rank lower.
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Kansas reaffirmed its landslide vote to uphold abortion rights after officials finished a conservative-pushed recount that never had any chance of changing the outcome.
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A grim look into life as a pregnant woman in the U.S.
BubsyFanboy 8/22/2022 1:00 PM
Thankfully not in every state. Yet.
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thechromatograph3r 8/22/2022 1:02 PM
Several states have passed similar laws requiring the display of the motto in recent years.
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heinz_ketchup 8/22/2022 1:08 PM
This is a distraction from the bigger problem. Texas wants to get rid of tenure. After that they will fire all professors who don't push conservative ideology. The plan is for the Texas education system to be super conservative religious. That should worry everyone.
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This is a distraction from the bigger problem. Texas wants to get rid of tenure. After that they will fire all professors who don't push conservative ideology. The plan is for the Texas education system to be super conservative religious. That should worry everyone.
thechromatograph3r 8/22/2022 2:18 PM
It’s past the point of worry. It’s a three-alarm fire.
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TheAnonymousDew 8/22/2022 2:24 PM
Correction: It's a plan to systematically eradicate public education entirely
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There's a reason why in the Antebellum South, slaves were forbidden from reading or writing
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heinz_ketchup 8/22/2022 2:25 PM
education in the south has always been fascist. its scary how they want to take it to 11.
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I went to public school, got some corporal punishment when I was 5 years old in kindergarten, got the full white-washed propaganda version of texas and US history.
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people who think they need to physically beat 5 year old children into submission are fucked in the head.
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but thats fascism.
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MisterStompy 8/22/2022 2:34 PM
Seeing Kiwifarms explode is the funniest fucking thing in the world. It's hilarious how little self awareness Null has.
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thechromatograph3r 8/22/2022 2:45 PM
YIIIIIKES
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MisterStompy 8/22/2022 2:50 PM
I'm not proud of it but I was involved with the forums that eventually became Kiwifarms. The reason why Null hates trans women in particular is because there were two trans women on the forums who he tried to hit on, using his control of the forums as leverage or a means to impress them. He was shot down in a pretty humiliating fashion twice because he wouldn't take a hint and now he DESPISES trans women because of it.
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I need to iterate I didn't take part in any harassment, but I saw it happening and was just like "oh that's a thing here I guess, huh", I didn't speak up or leave.
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It also wasn't nearly as bad back then, and it was actually pretty "diverse" if you could say that, lots of LGBT people, a lot of women and nonwhite people.
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Not so much anymore obviously
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Oh yeah Null also got obsessed with a rapper based in Seattle named KFlay. He was adamant that she was going to be so impressed that he ran a forum dedicated to "lolcows" that she would move from Seattle to his mom's house in Florida to live with him.
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Supposedly he lives in Serbia now. He used to live in Ukraine but he bugged out in January of this year because he was worried abotu getting conscripted.
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idk if they would conscript him though, he's in terrible shape and he's not exactly somebody who is stable enough to be given a gun and go to war.
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@MisterStompy well at least you're out now, we all do stupid/ regrettable shit when we are younger. It's the people who don't stop/ are unrepentant that I got a problem with.
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MisterStompy 8/23/2022 12:33 AM
idk where else to put this but Tim Pool started an emo band https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1561755927799373826
Timcast - New Single 'Only Ever Wanted' Coming August 26th
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HLMenckenFan 8/23/2022 12:35 AM
Cringe
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idk where else to put this but Tim Pool started an emo band https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1561755927799373826
BubsyFanboy 8/23/2022 2:33 AM
No, thanks. I'll spare my ears.
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GeoConfirmed. "Russia uses incendiary weapons against populated area's. In this case: Thermite." Note: most countries have banned the use of incendiary weapons. 47.96157, 37.47211 GeoLocated by @rollowastaken
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BubsyFanboy 8/23/2022 6:19 AM
also, the Russian government is now taking school age children from occupied lands into the military
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thechromatograph3r 8/23/2022 4:56 PM
This was a rally for J.D. Vance, who wants to be your senator, who wants to take an oath of office to uphold the Constitution of the United States. You know. The document that says Congress shall make no laws abridging the freedom of the press.
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https://twitter.com/jaywillis/status/1562139343342358530 man I wonder who they don't want to vote... really hard to tell 🤔
they want to say it so badly
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heinz_ketchup 8/23/2022 6:16 PM
its so frustrating how energetically these fucks work to tear down democracy and institute authoritarian regimes. stuck in their own delusions, thinking they will always be the winners, small-minded selfishness and shallow narcissism.
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MisterStompy 8/23/2022 6:48 PM
This is the guy that was making that Fallout 4 mod that replaces all white people. These people need historically accurate Jesus.
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MisterStompy 8/23/2022 6:59 PM
Also for people who compare him to The Enclave, don't. The Enclave was human supremacist. They believed that ALL nonmutated Americans should inherit the earth. This guy's worse than the Enclave was.
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Notice he doesn't say "White" American
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@MisterStompy I reported him and a few other twitter accounts that were supporting him. Unfortunately that account is like 5 years old so twitter is gonna be slower on banning it, than a bot.
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Found a picture of this crazy guy. He's a conservative radio host I think (edited)
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Democrat Pat Ryan just won his special election in NY. In a conservative stronghold.
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NY-23
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by a huge fucking margin apparently
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Democrat Pat Ryan won a special election for a New York State seat in the U.S. House of Representatives, a role he will fill through early January, Edison Research projected on Tuesday.
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its so frustrating how energetically these fucks work to tear down democracy and institute authoritarian regimes. stuck in their own delusions, thinking they will always be the winners, small-minded selfishness and shallow narcissism.
thechromatograph3r 8/24/2022 7:20 AM
It’s equally frustrating how Democrats don’t seem to get the sense of urgency required of them.
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Aaahahahahahaa holy shit the Dems actually stuck an amendment to the Clean Air Act into Biden's IRA that explicitly defines CO2 as an air pollutant, giving the EPA back its ability to regulate greenhouse gas emissions and directly addressing the Supreme Court's ruling.o
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thechromatograph3r 8/24/2022 8:06 AM
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — The husband of U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi pleaded guilty Tuesday to misdemeanor driving under the influence charges related to a May crash in California's wine country and was sentenced to five days in jail and three years of probation.
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also, the Russian government is now taking school age children from occupied lands into the military
Fascist regimes are all about the soft targets. 😔 They have to demoralize and instill fear early so no one wants to resist. Holding kids hostage is just another page out of that playbook. It's so awful.
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F in chat
thechromatograph3r 8/24/2022 9:54 AM
F in chat for Paul only getting a slap on the wrist
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Thabk goodness its only five days, if you follow that guys investment portfolio you will always come out on top. "But they totally arent insider trading"
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thechromatograph3r 8/24/2022 11:18 AM
By Zolan Kanno-Youngs, Stacy Cowley and Jim Tankersley
The debt forgiveness comes after months of deliberations in the White House over fairness and fears that the plan could exacerbate inflation before the midterms.
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WojtektheBear 8/24/2022 11:40 AM
This is Randy and Vicki Weaver. Randy and Vicki were married in 1971, and lived with their children until 30 years ago today, when federal agents murdered her as she held their infant daughter.
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thechromatograph3r 8/24/2022 12:33 PM
Wow. This is beyond fucked up
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Wow. This is beyond fucked up
WojtektheBear 8/24/2022 12:33 PM
You mean how they’re framing it right?
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thechromatograph3r 8/24/2022 12:34 PM
The ATF murdered that family in cold blood.
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And they entrapped Ricky
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https://youtu.be/vuyg3BRI8_0 Karl and atun shei just put out this super interesting video on the upstairs lounge arson
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Biden snuck a amendment allowing the epa to target anyone making excessive CO2 on grounds of it being a toxin
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undermining the Supreme court's decision earlier this year
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And they entrapped Ricky
WojtektheBear 8/24/2022 2:11 PM
Aryan nations totally wasn’t also involved
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Look I’m not gonna say the Weaver’s deserved to die but not mentioning Randy’s connections is a deliberate omission
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Yeah really disappointed he didn't forgive it all. Seems like pure politics to me. He did delay the payment deadline again so maybe there's an opportunity there to lobby for more $$ to be forgiven after the November election cycle.
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Still just another example of why electing Democrats is just the beginning of defeating fascism, not the end.
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TheAnonymousDew 8/24/2022 3:10 PM
It will be a never ending battle
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Complacency is the weapon they use
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heinz_ketchup 8/24/2022 3:39 PM
its the American way. FDR said the new deal saved capitalism. If there is ever a real chance of socialism happening (other than the MIC), they throw a faux-compromise out there that kinda sorta helps but mostly just relieves pressure for a bit so the capitalists can get back to it.
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Yeah really disappointed he didn't forgive it all. Seems like pure politics to me. He did delay the payment deadline again so maybe there's an opportunity there to lobby for more $$ to be forgiven after the November election cycle.
thechromatograph3r 8/24/2022 5:03 PM
It’s also posed as a one-and-done deal, meaning everybody who is currently or ever will be in college will be saddled with debt again.
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joe hill’s revenge 8/24/2022 5:26 PM
They actually did something for once
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MisterStompy 8/24/2022 5:57 PM
bro what
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Brandon makes it rain
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joe hill’s revenge
They actually did something for once
thechromatograph3r 8/24/2022 6:42 PM
I KNOW, RIGHT?
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its the American way. FDR said the new deal saved capitalism. If there is ever a real chance of socialism happening (other than the MIC), they throw a faux-compromise out there that kinda sorta helps but mostly just relieves pressure for a bit so the capitalists can get back to it.
TheAnonymousDew 8/24/2022 7:10 PM
This is why people should NOT just be satisfied if we get any meaningful labor reforms
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MisterStompy 8/24/2022 7:21 PM
Marjorie Taylor Greene calls for Kiwifarms to be "taken down" after she was swatted by a user on the site.
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swatting is not funny, and has gotten people killed. but I defiantly experienced some schadenfreude hearing about that raid
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Re: https://discord.com/channels/990403086675759136/990455202354188339/1012048708344492053 "NATO is an imperialist bloc" is an outrageously uninformed opinion. (edited)
10:26 PM
NATO is a defensive alliance.
10:27 PM
It opposes the fascists in Russia and China, and their little cronies, most of which are all military dictatorships who stamp on human rights.
10:27 PM
Russia has done nothing but meddle in American politics in order to have the conservatives push fascist agendas, in order to weaken and damage our democracy.
10:28 PM
China commits horrific human rights violations, and offers precious little freedom for their citizens.
10:28 PM
Yet, some claim NATO is an imperialist bloc? That's just stupid.
10:29 PM
NATO is the only thing that prevented large-scale conflict in Europe.
10:30 PM
Now we know that Russia's military is grossly incompetent, yes, however they stood a very real threat against democracies like Finland, Poland, and of course, Ukraine, who was notably not in NATO, and unlike Finland, had no other allies.
10:30 PM
That is what NATO defends from. Unwarranted, literally imperialist agendas. Is it perfect? No. Turkey's in NATO for strategic purposes, not because they're exemplary.
10:31 PM
To say the Iron Front opposes fascism, and then to turn around and label NATO as fascist, is to oppose democracy. Why? Because if you wish for peace, you must prepare for war. If you are not prepared, then some actual fascist power will be knocking on your country's gates sooner rather than later. (edited)
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also Trump v Mitch is happening again
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Former President Trump on Wednesday called on Republicans to boot Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) from his post as Senate minority leader, accusing the senator of being a “pawn for the Democrats…
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A broken clock is right twice a day.
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once again, I get to use this gif from the Georgia recount:
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To say the Iron Front opposes fascism, and then to turn around and label NATO as fascist, is to oppose democracy. Why? Because if you wish for peace, you must prepare for war. If you are not prepared, then some actual fascist power will be knocking on your country's gates sooner rather than later. (edited)
heinz_ketchup 8/24/2022 10:51 PM
The only people I hear calling NATO imperialist are Russian propagandists, right wingers pretending to be left wing to cause turmoil.
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A spectre is haunting America, the spectre of middle-class leftists turning to the right. Sadly, it’s happened before. As with most cases of history repeating itself, the first time was a tragedy — that was when Trotsky’s “New York Intellectuals,” grouped around the magazine Partisan Re...
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not that I support communism, I do not. but they do identify a troubling pattern of right wingers invading left wing groups.
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Also saying "Biden is fighting Russia to the last Ukranian life" is idiotic. That is a tremendous disservice to all the Ukrainians who are literally fighting against Fascist Putin to defend their homeland, their people, and their democracy.
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The only person forcing Ukrainians to fight is Czar Putin.
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11:42 PM
Educate yourself before you spew pro-Russian anti-democratic propaganda, thinking you're some sort of enlightened being. You're just playing into the hands of the corrupt. You would rather abolish NATO and have Ukraine surrender their way of life to fascism. An embarrassment, nothing less. (edited)
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11:46 PM
And "inb4 I'm banned," really? Already throwing the victim card?
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The Cassville school board approved a policy this summer to once again use corporal punishment as a disciplinary measure for K-12 students.
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RedMoonWarrior 8/25/2022 12:43 AM
what the fuck
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Note to self, invest in good paddle board to knock some asswipe principals heads in if I for some forsaken reason had family living in Missouri. I may believe in La Chancla, but keep your paddles away from the kids.
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seriously tho
1:36 AM
while I'm not against some limited physical discipline, shit sure as fuck should stay away from schools
1:37 AM
it never ends well
1:38 AM
hence: not in schools
1:40 AM
To be fair, Ancient Sparta was also infamous for being on everyone's shitlist in ancient greece
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there's a reason Thebes went as hard as it did when Sparta refused to let them slightly change a peace oath to absolutely destroying it to the point that when Alexander came, Sparta was steamrolled and Rome belittled them
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yup
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also the bible even talks about spare the rod, spoil the child (although in this case, its less "all corp punishment is bad" and more "hey dipshits, your supposed to love your kids and generally talk to them about shit. If they insist being shitheads then you smack em, but you don't beat the shit out of them!"
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which....for anquity, was generally good parenting advice.
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Republicans thought they were poised for a big win in a closely watched congressional special election in a bellwether district. Voters had other ideas.
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it confirms Pat Ryan did indeed win. They had to do a recount but there is a good lead
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VDV Swim Squad Coach 8/25/2022 5:28 AM
Just saw the discussion over on #flyers-and-stickers. Don't want any more political ramblings to clog up that channel but do think that there may have been a dismissal from both sides about some very valid points. I think that it was wrong to have NATO on that banner, but understand why it was done. That was a banner about fighting imperialism, and obviously it should have a mention of western imperialism on there. Firstly, a definition of imperialism (open for debate, of course): Imperialism is the state policy, practice, or advocacy of extending power and dominion, especially by direct territorial acquisition or by gaining political and economic control of other areas, often through employing hard power (economic and military power), but also soft power (cultural and diplomatic power) Now firstly, I must say that all nations try to exert their will outside of their borders. That is nothing new and nothing problematic, however, the only strictly appropriate way for this to happen is through diplomacy. The transparent exercise of soft power to promote a nations interests at the international level is not necessarily problematic. The issues come when the nation exercising such power loses respect for the sovereignty of the nations they are petitioning, and as such starts to take more and more drastic actions to force a sovereign nation to make choices in the interests of the exercising power, not in the interests of their people. Given that, I would say that NATO is in no way an imperialistic organization. Just because it has expanded, does not mean that the dirty hand of imperialistic manipulation has been in play. NATO allows countries to ask to join, it offers great benefit (especially to smaller countries) and so many join. However, NATO does have many countries within it that frequently show little regard for foreign sovereignty and engage in what can be described as imperialist practices.
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VDV Swim Squad Coach 8/25/2022 5:36 AM
I think, given the aim of that poster was to call out current imperialistic powers, the use of the NATO logo was not appropriate. Instead, some nation could've been chosen to be symbolic of western imperialism, likely the western state that has engaged most frequently and aggressively in imperialistic activity.... there is only one option for that state, the USA. This is obviously why NATO's logo was used. A symbol that could be used to signify the US without explicitly stating that was the intention. Now, a discussion on the problems with US foreign policy in recent times, and how that compares with the activities of Russia and China would be incredibly interesting, and probably lead to people wanting to stab each other. For that reason, I will not talk much about the imperialistic tendencies of any of the three, but invite anyone who wants to to share their opinion here
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This is all my perspective, and obviously yours might differ. Don't agree with me? Got a critique of what I've said? I welcome any and all to pick apart what I've said as they wish, though do ask that everyone tries to remain cordial. Imperialism is an interesting subject, and there's lots to talk about, but remember to be calm and think out what you've typed before sending it, nuance is a great thing.
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This is all my perspective, and obviously yours might differ. Don't agree with me? Got a critique of what I've said? I welcome any and all to pick apart what I've said as they wish, though do ask that everyone tries to remain cordial. Imperialism is an interesting subject, and there's lots to talk about, but remember to be calm and think out what you've typed before sending it, nuance is a great thing.
You've summed up well what "imperialism" is, and how it could be negative. However, the designer of the poster did not practice any such nuance. They effectively regurgitated Russian and Chinese propaganda, nations with territorial ambitions. The definition for imperialism is broad, as you identify. Yes, the US dollar, denim jeans, and McDonalds can be found in any developed nation. Corporations, supported by both Democrats and Republicans, have evaded punishment for their human rights abuses. The CIA meddled in Iran's democratic election, as a direct example. However, I dont think lumping those in along with opposing fascists and so forth, is wise. Those are symptoms of corruption, corporate influence on politicians. The root cause should be our focus, corporate greed, human rights violations, and worker's rights. The moment they target the American flag with an arrow, we lose support. (fixed my innumerable typos from mobile phone) (edited)
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Just saw the discussion over on #flyers-and-stickers. Don't want any more political ramblings to clog up that channel but do think that there may have been a dismissal from both sides about some very valid points. I think that it was wrong to have NATO on that banner, but understand why it was done. That was a banner about fighting imperialism, and obviously it should have a mention of western imperialism on there. Firstly, a definition of imperialism (open for debate, of course): Imperialism is the state policy, practice, or advocacy of extending power and dominion, especially by direct territorial acquisition or by gaining political and economic control of other areas, often through employing hard power (economic and military power), but also soft power (cultural and diplomatic power) Now firstly, I must say that all nations try to exert their will outside of their borders. That is nothing new and nothing problematic, however, the only strictly appropriate way for this to happen is through diplomacy. The transparent exercise of soft power to promote a nations interests at the international level is not necessarily problematic. The issues come when the nation exercising such power loses respect for the sovereignty of the nations they are petitioning, and as such starts to take more and more drastic actions to force a sovereign nation to make choices in the interests of the exercising power, not in the interests of their people. Given that, I would say that NATO is in no way an imperialistic organization. Just because it has expanded, does not mean that the dirty hand of imperialistic manipulation has been in play. NATO allows countries to ask to join, it offers great benefit (especially to smaller countries) and so many join. However, NATO does have many countries within it that frequently show little regard for foreign sovereignty and engage in what can be described as imperialist practices.
NATO expansion is voluntary, people want to apply, they arent forced to or coerced. As you stated, that doesnt meet the criteria for imperialist. The US absolutely qualifies, we have "territory" that isnt considered a state that was indeed taken during war or colonization or both. Again as you said, using NATO to reflect nations like the US behaviors is disingenuous.
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You've summed up well what "imperialism" is, and how it could be negative. However, the designer of the poster did not practice any such nuance. They effectively regurgitated Russian and Chinese propaganda, nations with territorial ambitions. The definition for imperialism is broad, as you identify. Yes, the US dollar, denim jeans, and McDonalds can be found in any developed nation. Corporations, supported by both Democrats and Republicans, have evaded punishment for their human rights abuses. The CIA meddled in Iran's democratic election, as a direct example. However, I dont think lumping those in along with opposing fascists and so forth, is wise. Those are symptoms of corruption, corporate influence on politicians. The root cause should be our focus, corporate greed, human rights violations, and worker's rights. The moment they target the American flag with an arrow, we lose support. (fixed my innumerable typos from mobile phone) (edited)
VDV Swim Squad Coach 8/25/2022 7:58 AM
The moment they target the Anerican flag with an arrow, we lose support.
Absolutely agree with you there. For a whole host of reasons I think public identification and critique of American Imperialism is nothing short of political suicide. Change can happen, and historical wrongs can be acknowledged, but the use of the word imperial to refer to the US will likely remain common only in academic thought as it's use by any kind of major public figure would be disastrous for that individual.
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NATO expansion is voluntary, people want to apply, they arent forced to or coerced. As you stated, that doesnt meet the criteria for imperialist. The US absolutely qualifies, we have "territory" that isnt considered a state that was indeed taken during war or colonization or both. Again as you said, using NATO to reflect nations like the US behaviors is disingenuous.
TheAnonymousDew 8/25/2022 11:39 AM
In fact, NATO countries actually BENEFIT from being members
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BubsyFanboy 8/25/2022 11:57 AM
Kadyrov demanded to deprive low-income families of payments for refusing military service In Argun, 412 families are in "dire need". They account for 188 able-bodied men, but only 3 agreed to serve in the new #Kadyrov regiment. Kadyrov called to "forcing them to work for free."
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so slave wages
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for war
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didn't work too well for the Spartans
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thechromatograph3r 8/25/2022 2:20 PM
That NATO take has to be the shittiest take I’ve ever seen in here.
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2:22 PM
And if I see anybody put an arrow through the US flag, I will make a motion for an immediate ban of that user.
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We would have to consider carefully. But please no one do that we're a patriotic group. (edited)
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Note to self, invest in good paddle board to knock some asswipe principals heads in if I for some forsaken reason had family living in Missouri. I may believe in La Chancla, but keep your paddles away from the kids.
thechromatograph3r 8/25/2022 2:25 PM
100%. If I hear that you hit my kid, I will fuck you up. Only I get to discipline my kids in that manner.
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A lot of folks are opting out of physical punishment for their kids, it doesnt really teach them anything but to fear you and your wrath
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If it works for that kid, good!
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thechromatograph3r 8/25/2022 2:38 PM
BREAKING: Federal judge rules for Justice Dept in its 1st challenge to a state abortion law post-Dobbs. Clinton appointed Judge B. Lynn Winmill says federal law guaranteeing emergency treatment supersedes state under supremacy clause. Doc: https://t.co/z1hymL2wCp
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BOISE, Idaho (AP) — Federal judge says Idaho can’t enforce strict abortion ban in medical emergencies.
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A lot of folks are opting out of physical punishment for their kids, it doesnt really teach them anything but to fear you and your wrath
thechromatograph3r 8/25/2022 2:40 PM
In all honesty, I prefer taking away something they enjoy, because then they have to sit there without it and bask. “Oh, you lashed out at Susie today? Okay, Johnny, no Fornite with Jimmy tonight.”
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It really works lol, time to find something else to do kiddos, your favorite thing is off limits atm
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TheAnonymousDew 8/25/2022 3:23 PM
I believe in the same way
3:23 PM
Grounding followed by telling them why what they did was wrong
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WASHINGTON (AP) — A judge on Thursday ordered the Justice Department to make public a redacted version of the affidavit it relied on when federal agents searched the Florida estate of former President Donald Trump to look for classified documents.
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BubsyFanboy 8/25/2022 4:24 PM
Student loan forgiveness undermines one of our military’s greatest recruitment tools at a time of dangerously low enlistments.
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Damn bro lol. The military is really hurting in retention. Like, bad.
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Maybe they should pay better and care about mental health and work-family balance. ... KEKL
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Yep, time to sweeten the pot. But what will actually happen is they will come up with some way to cope till they dont have a problem anymore. Or till its someone elses problem
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If we just fly more jets, the maintainers will be too busy to worry about their bills!
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WojtektheBear 8/25/2022 6:35 PM
If they just let people smoke pot they’d get a lot more people than you’d think
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MisterStompy 8/25/2022 6:37 PM
I never thought that the democrats would be this fucking based holy shit https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1562916200866267138
Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene had $183,504 in PPP loans forgiven. https://t.co/4FoCymt8TB
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6:37 PM
check out the whole thread
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dark brandon is fucking real oh my god
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AAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGHHH https://twitter.com/People4Bernie/status/1562919789407768576
@WhiteHouse Alright White House. We see you.
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@WhiteHouse We were told that we wouldn't have personal political attacks coming from official government Twitter accounts once President Biden was elected. I guess that the intern running the @WhiteHouse Twitter account didn't get the memo about civility... Or possibly, they just lied 🤔
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TheAnonymousDew 8/25/2022 6:47 PM
Fuck civility when one side uses "grievance politcs" , civility goes out the window
6:48 PM
I love the Dark Brandon stuff
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MisterStompy 8/25/2022 6:55 PM
To everyone who voted for president Trump, there's no way out.
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Fuck civility when one side uses "grievance politcs" , civility goes out the window
thechromatograph3r 8/25/2022 7:12 PM
THISTHISTHISTHISTHIS
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MisterStompy 8/25/2022 7:13 PM
UH OH
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YIKES
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@WhiteHouse Uhh did the White House twitter get hacked? Yikes
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YIKERINOS
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THAT'S HECKIN OFFENSIVE MISTER BRANDON
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I never thought that the democrats would be this fucking based holy shit https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1562916200866267138
thechromatograph3r 8/25/2022 7:16 PM
Democrats need to fucking get with the program
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Democrats need to fucking get with the program
MisterStompy 8/25/2022 7:16 PM
it looks like they just did, I hope blatant insults are next
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it looks like they just did, I hope blatant insults are next
thechromatograph3r 8/25/2022 7:18 PM
I doubt it. This is a one-off
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MisterStompy 8/25/2022 7:19 PM
Nah they're gonna call Matt Gaetz a pedophile in the next tweet I bet
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Okay they won't do that but
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I hope they do Ben Shapiro and Steven Crowder and then follow up with a tweet telling Crowder to go back to Canada
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BREAKING: White House issues new policy that will require, by 2026, all federally-funded research results to be freely available to public without delay, ending longstanding ability of journals to paywall results for up to 1 year. Coverage coming on @ScienceInsider.
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it looks like they just did, I hope blatant insults are next
they wont go with outright insults, they while probably follow something like the Fetterman methodology.
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thechromatograph3r 8/25/2022 7:58 PM
Fucking. Finally.
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thechromatograph3r 8/25/2022 8:48 PM
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thechromatograph3r 8/25/2022 9:13 PM
Congress shouldn't have gotten ANY PPP, especially those crying about loans being forgiven as unfair. Well if it's so unfair, pay yours back. That money was supposed to be for struggling Americans. Not glorified aristocrats. And the coffer went dry so fast, but you know they got theirs. But noooooo, $10,000 of debt repayment is a line too far. It will crater the economy! Cats and dogs will be running amok!! Because the government actually did something for normal people!!! Oh, the horror!!! We can’t have that! Think of the wealthy! (I think of them with hungry intentions). I'm honestly trying to figure it out...if you have a business as a public servant, shouldn't you have divested from any relationship with your business while in public office?
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MisterStompy 8/25/2022 9:56 PM
That's peculiar.
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(Laughs in Californian)
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BubsyFanboy 8/26/2022 3:18 AM
Remember this list, y'all. You'll need to report their encouragement of election denialism.
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MisterStompy 8/26/2022 5:12 AM
Okay so I just woke up and checked Twitter and apparently Gavin McInnes (Proud Boys founder) got arrested by the feds https://twitter.com/IwriteOK/status/1563053630009524224
so it sounds like Gavin McInnes is in jail tonight Let me be the first to say: lol, lmao
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also this happened a while ago and I'm just now seeing it so sorry if this isn't news
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anyway going back to sleep, have fun playing gangland in prison Gavin, hope you get sent back to Canada you dumb bastard
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Okay so I just woke up and checked Twitter and apparently Gavin McInnes (Proud Boys founder) got arrested by the feds https://twitter.com/IwriteOK/status/1563053630009524224
heinz_ketchup 8/26/2022 11:01 AM
is this the same Gavin McInnes who pwned himself with a buttplug on TV to own the libs?
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That's peculiar.
TheAnonymousDew 8/26/2022 11:08 AM
California has a more fair tax system
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Rich people SHOULD pay more in taxes
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BubsyFanboy 8/26/2022 11:09 AM
People freaking out about supporting kids who don't conform to gender norms, meanwhile conservatives are brining back beating kids at school
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is this the same Gavin McInnes who pwned himself with a buttplug on TV to own the libs?
MisterStompy 8/26/2022 12:14 PM
yes
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so someone managed to smuggle out a video of "Injustice" Barrett's cult group
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Wife of founder of People of Praise says members ‘were always crying’ during discussions about women’s subservience to men
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heinz_ketchup 8/26/2022 12:16 PM
why do conservatives love women with the crazy eyes. Michelle Bachman, that witch lady from delaware, ACB
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its like an archetype
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because the morons don't like a woman who will glare them into oblivion (edited)
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ok auto correct why (edited)
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MisterStompy 8/26/2022 12:20 PM
Gavin McInnes of @censoreddottv visited by feds shortly after going live. The stream is still live, but it has been an empty chair for 30+mins.
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MisterStompy 8/26/2022 12:27 PM
Keep in mind he's a green card holder, he's actually Canadian. The Proud Boys are listed as a terrorist organization in Canada.
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If he gets deported back to Canada he could go to prison for being the founder of a terrorist organization.
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good
12:31 PM
deport his ass
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If he gets deported back to Canada he could go to prison for being the founder of a terrorist organization.
heinz_ketchup 8/26/2022 12:34 PM
that is what should happen
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MisterStompy 8/26/2022 12:34 PM
didn't know this guy was Proud Boys lol https://twitter.com/JoshDenny/status/1563049040241049601
Just got off the phone with our people. It’s not a bit. Gavin was AGAINST going to Jan 6. He was AGAINST Charlottesville (and told Proud Boys they were out of the club if they went) but he’s rotting away in jail because he dared to question authority.
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Gavin did not kick out any Proud Boys who went to Charlottesville. That Enrique Tarrio guy was at Charlottesville.
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Also his real name his Henry. Didn't start calling himself "Enrique" until after the Charlottesville riots for... some reason.
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heinz_ketchup 8/26/2022 12:36 PM
proud boys around here wear the Buc-ee's logo and intentionally act like childish dumbfucks (to cheapen and delegitimize discourse).
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"ar-15s dindo nuffin" as one of their signs said
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we can't have nice things or deal with real problems because those fucksticks need to act a fool to get attention
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The Justice Department on Friday released a redacted version of the affidavit prosecutors submitted in federal court to secure a warrant to search former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate earlier this month.
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A redacted version of the affidavit used to obtain a warrant for Trump’s Florida residence shows that he was refusing to return sensitive documents.
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“The affidavit lists 793e, meaning they're saying Trump was NOT authorized to have these docs. (793d would be if he was authorized to have it). https://t.co/wwYGRRrVR9”
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good
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but that also means whatever it was, it was likely to be spy network shit or nuke shit
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both are bad
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honestly while the fbi is gonna have a field day fucking with Trump and co, I have noticed another problem with this situation: The fbi and Cia are less likely to trust the presidents in the future (edited)
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that can lead to some seriously shetchy shit
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auto correct for the love of god
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YoshiToranaga 8/26/2022 1:55 PM
It’s sketchy shit all the way down.
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I mean MORE sketchy
1:58 PM
the presidents job is supposed to be rep of the people as a whole and if the (more likely) the CIA stops trusting presidents...the risk of bad things happening gets considerably larger
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we already had a CIA that strongly disliked Kennedy and Johnson (more so the former then the later but there was no love between the two)
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TheAnonymousDew 8/26/2022 2:24 PM
More institutions Trump fucked up
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The Justice Department on Friday unsealed a redacted version of the affidavit used to secure the warrant for the FBI to search former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate.
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heinz_ketchup 8/26/2022 3:02 PM
attacking the judge went really well for Alex Jones.....
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Toddlers, the lot of them
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MisterStompy 8/26/2022 3:42 PM
I'm officially supporting the Russian Libertarian Party over the US Libertarian Party National
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HLMenckenFan 8/26/2022 4:52 PM
LPNH is insane
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Libertarians are admittedly selfish to a insane degree
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HLMenckenFan 8/26/2022 4:58 PM
It depends on the type
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Inna Yashchyshen, who masqueraded as ''Anna de Rothschild,'' is the target of an inquiry into her financial activities — and her ability to easily reach the former president's inner circle.
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How is our country not totally fucked already, like our entire intelligence and defense systems must just be completely compromised
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We need Jason Bourne to show up
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MisterStompy 8/26/2022 9:57 PM
literal meme war
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BRO lol
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HLMenckenFan 8/26/2022 11:07 PM
lol
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heinz_ketchup 8/26/2022 11:39 PM
the Japanese are way ahead of you https://i.imgur.com/v8tlJpk.jpeg
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HLMenckenFan 8/26/2022 11:47 PM
Nice
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The affidavit is damning for Trump and throws a wrench into his claim that he's innocent because "it was all declassified," national security vets said.
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welp who had both Nuclear secrets AND CIA intel secrets and sources are their bingo card. The CIA was helping Feds with the investigation when a fuckton of their sources where getting taken off the census
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By Julian E. Barnes and Mark Mazzetti
Documents related to the work of clandestine sources are some of the most sensitive and protected in the government. F.B.I. agents found some in boxes retrieved from Donald J. Trump’s home.
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By Julian E. Barnes and Adam Goldman
Counterintelligence officials said in a top secret cable to all stations and bases around the world that too many of the people it recruits from other countries to spy for the U.S. are being lost.
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thechromatograph3r 8/27/2022 9:06 AM
By Julian E. Barnes and Mark Mazzetti
Documents related to the work of clandestine sources are some of the most sensitive and protected in the government. F.B.I. agents found some in boxes retrieved from Donald J. Trump’s home.
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MisterStompy 8/27/2022 6:03 PM
Ukrainian soldiers stress test a Russian 6B47 Kevlar helmet
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This is why Oligarchies tend to not last long in the scope of human history. Them being fraudster bastards means scamming and cheating equipment
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Former president, whose baseless narrative fuelled violent attempt to overturn election, condemns federal law enforcement probe of classified documents in his possession
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heinz_ketchup 8/27/2022 10:44 PM
fuck that piece of shit with a fucking cactus. Try him like the Rosenbergs for treason against the USA.
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10:45 PM
it is confounding that so many people worship a giant whiny little pussy boy like Trump
10:45 PM
he is a weak, bullshitting piece of shit
10:46 PM
it is the great shame of America that our federal government is so powerless to stop that sniveling little shit-for-brains loser.
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Imagine the setup here, they have zero faith in elections, and are being told that investigating cheetogod for stealing classified docs is the end of their democracy. All while slowly feeding them more pro-civil war propaganda.
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heinz_ketchup 8/27/2022 10:49 PM
people don't understand how fast the right wing fascists will fold in the face of real strength. if the FBI sends his ass to admax florence for the rest of his life and says "this is what happens to traitors", the sheepish little wannabe nazis on the right will throw a fit online but they don't do shit in real life because they are all front and no substance.
10:50 PM
I dunno why America lets these suburban housewife SUV driving fatass bullshitters push us around. they are all talk and no action. weak little losers who talk on social media.
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Meanwhile, the FBI already warned about increased violence...
10:52 PM
U.S. Officials Issue Warning Of Potential Racially-Motivated Copycat Attacks Following Release Of Suspect’s Manifesto Online (CBS News) National: The FBI and DHS issued a warning for potential racially motivated copycat attacks similar to May's Buffalo, New York supermarket shooting, media reported Wednesday. Nationwide, law enforcement partners have been urged to remain vigilant and watch for potential copycat attacks due to the spread of the Buffalo shooter's 700-page manifesto. The 700 pages includes a manifesto of 180 pages and a diary of 672 pages, both of which expand upon the shooter's white supremacist ideas and outline pre-attack training with gear, modification of weapons, and extensive target selection research. U.S. government officials assessed that the manifesto and online diary written by the alleged gunman "intended to serve as a manual for future attackers" will "likely enhance the capabilities of potential mass casualty shooters who may be inspired by this attack." Federal law enforcement warns that "lone offenders" could be the most prone to following the manifesto, given the history of previous attacks. The FBI and DHS ask that citizens and private companies report any suspicious activities related to violent extremism, online radicalization, and mobilization for attacks. Source: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-dhs-bulletin-buffalo-shooter-potential-racially-motivated-copycat-attacks/
The widespread dissemination of the Buffalo suspect's writing will "likely enhance the capabilities" of other potential mass shooters, the bulletin says.
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heinz_ketchup 8/27/2022 10:52 PM
if only the FBI would go after them as hard as they went after the black panthers
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BubsyFanboy 8/28/2022 1:05 AM
Disabled the embed because it's giant. Here ya have more russian genocide against Ukraine - this time forcibly taking civilian children into the military! https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1563565182198067200
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thechromatograph3r 8/28/2022 11:46 AM
Only the best Soviet equipment
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if only the FBI would go after them as hard as they went after the black panthers
thechromatograph3r 8/28/2022 11:46 AM
RIGHT?!
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Disabled the embed because it's giant. Here ya have more russian genocide against Ukraine - this time forcibly taking civilian children into the military! https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1563565182198067200
This one makes me absolutely sick. And as a parent it makes me want to fight like hell. Fascists always try to go after the kids. 🤬
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MisterStompy 8/28/2022 11:58 AM
Jean-Pierre: "What MAGA Republicans have done, and you look at the definition of fascism, and you think about what they're doing in attacking our democracy ... taking away our freedoms, wanting to take away our rights ... that is what that is. It is very clear."
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(yes I know the Free Beacon is a right wing news source that's why it's funny that they're telling on themselves like this lol)
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heinz_ketchup 8/28/2022 12:21 PM
MAGA: "patriots who love freedom support trump and everyone else wants a neo-marxist dictatorship!" also MAGA: "lets put everyone we don't like in camps, burn books, and have military parades with skull logos".
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MisterStompy 8/28/2022 6:07 PM
wait a minute you're telling me when someone does things that people want people start to like them more? https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/1563511415905718278
Gallup: "The latest improvement in Biden's overall approval puts him in better standing in the August before midterm elections than 5 predecessors over the past 40 years - Reagan in 1982, Clinton in 1994, GWBush in 2006, Obama in 2014, Trump in 2018." https://t.co/LdSsX8QWBi
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wait a minute you're telling me when someone does things that people want people start to like them more? https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/1563511415905718278
thechromatograph3r 8/28/2022 9:16 PM
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HLMenckenFan 8/28/2022 9:27 PM
I love that gif
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New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu tells CNN's Dana Bash that "that should pretty much be the end of the Libertarian Party in New Hampshire" after the state party tweeted "happy holidays" on the anniversary of Senator John McCain's death and tweeted a mocking reference to the Holocaust.
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MisterStompy 8/29/2022 1:56 AM
One of Nick Fuentes' Groypers just got charged with child porn
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They found it on his phone while they arrested him for making threats against Turning Point USA https://twitter.com/jaredlholt/status/1560626157715951616
One of Nick Fuentes' groupies got picked up by the FBI for "allegedly making online posts that the FBI claims show he was planning to attack a conservative student group in Florida." https://t.co/93miqFkxwT
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BubsyFanboy 8/29/2022 3:22 AM
https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-715795 For the few libertarians who felt the Mises caucus doesn't represent them, this is total confirmation. The "6 million dollars minimum wage or you're anti-semetic" Tweet is indefensible.
The tweet was met with condemnation amongst Twitter users and Jewish organizations. The tweet was then deleted following the criticism.
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One of Nick Fuentes' Groypers just got charged with child porn
thechromatograph3r 8/29/2022 8:53 AM
Absolutely fucking disgusting
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https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-715795 For the few libertarians who felt the Mises caucus doesn't represent them, this is total confirmation. The "6 million dollars minimum wage or you're anti-semetic" Tweet is indefensible.
thechromatograph3r 8/29/2022 8:53 AM
WTF happened to you, LP?
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WTF happened to you, LP?
BubsyFanboy 8/29/2022 8:59 AM
Mises caucus took over, that's what. LPNH was already a Mises caucus-controlled faction that was awful, even for LPUSA standards. They already were until total control of the caucus (so much so that Gary Johnson himself at one point intervened), but then MC took over like 80% of the party and that caucus tends to support this crap. Apparently they weren't stupid enough for LPNH and they quit LP National. I think they believed that they were essentially free from consequence. They forgot that being free from punishment by your own party doesn't mean free from public backlash. They found out the hard way and are now reaping what they sow. (edited)
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Just read about what the Mises caucus is, and fuck that whole thing.
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HLMenckenFan 8/29/2022 10:24 AM
The Mises Caucus is terrible
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Mises caucus took over, that's what. LPNH was already a Mises caucus-controlled faction that was awful, even for LPUSA standards. They already were until total control of the caucus (so much so that Gary Johnson himself at one point intervened), but then MC took over like 80% of the party and that caucus tends to support this crap. Apparently they weren't stupid enough for LPNH and they quit LP National. I think they believed that they were essentially free from consequence. They forgot that being free from punishment by your own party doesn't mean free from public backlash. They found out the hard way and are now reaping what they sow. (edited)
HLMenckenFan 8/29/2022 10:25 AM
LPNH once argued last year that racism is a nonissue and that libertarians are more oppressed than black people in the US (edited)
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LPNH once argued last year that racism is a nonissue and that libertarians are more oppressed than black people in the US (edited)
BubsyFanboy 8/29/2022 10:29 AM
Absolute nutcases.
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Absolute nutcases.
HLMenckenFan 8/29/2022 10:30 AM
Exactly
10:33 AM
I don't need to share the Tweet. They're nuts
11:14 AM
"christian cell phone company" has a cardboard Trump/rambo setup. nothing more Christian than shooting people with your assault rifle.
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I interviewed Gary Johnson in a bar in DC about 12 years ago. He seemed like a completely normal, good person. He also matched us in beer drinking which was not expected at all. This was around the time that the Tea Party sunk its worm suckers into the Libertarian and Republican parties. Not that either one was particularly great to begin with, but 2010 was definitely when the hockey stick trend line of crazy turned upwards
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MisterStompy 8/29/2022 1:03 PM
The eyes of the world are upon you. The hopes and prayers of liberty loving people everywhere march with you. https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1564190989966778368
BREAKING: The counteroffensive on the ground begins. The #Ukrainian Army have broken through the first line of #Russia's defense in #Kherson. Most of the key bridges are rendered defunct, obstructing the supply of heavy #Russian weapons to the temporarily occupied region of 🇺🇦
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Mises caucus took over, that's what. LPNH was already a Mises caucus-controlled faction that was awful, even for LPUSA standards. They already were until total control of the caucus (so much so that Gary Johnson himself at one point intervened), but then MC took over like 80% of the party and that caucus tends to support this crap. Apparently they weren't stupid enough for LPNH and they quit LP National. I think they believed that they were essentially free from consequence. They forgot that being free from punishment by your own party doesn't mean free from public backlash. They found out the hard way and are now reaping what they sow. (edited)
thechromatograph3r 8/29/2022 1:54 PM
Ew. I guess I left the party at the right time (few years back).
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The eyes of the world are upon you. The hopes and prayers of liberty loving people everywhere march with you. https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1564190989966778368
thechromatograph3r 8/29/2022 1:54 PM
Fuck. Yes.
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Ew. I guess I left the party at the right time (few years back).
BubsyFanboy 8/29/2022 2:02 PM
It'd be fine if you were still around in 2020 - Jo Jorgensen wasn't at all like what Mises caucus would want the LP party to be
2:03 PM
But alas, now there really is no point in rejoining :P
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It'd be fine if you were still around in 2020 - Jo Jorgensen wasn't at all like what Mises caucus would want the LP party to be
thechromatograph3r 8/29/2022 2:06 PM
I supported Jorgensen until I realized that living in a swing state meant that diluting the vote in a FPTP system could have handed the election to Trump.
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I supported Jorgensen until I realized that living in a swing state meant that diluting the vote in a FPTP system could have handed the election to Trump.
BubsyFanboy 8/29/2022 2:07 PM
Fair enough.
2:07 PM
On the FPTP note, I'm guessing we're all on the same page that Yang's new party isn't exactly going to be trying to really reform the country's electoral system. (edited)
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On the FPTP note, I'm guessing we're all on the same page that Yang's new party isn't exactly going to be trying to really reform the country's electoral system. (edited)
thechromatograph3r 8/29/2022 2:32 PM
It’s going to crash and burn hilariously
2:32 PM
On Aug. 8, a group of Republican candidates asked the Supreme Court to remove 23 Libertarian opponents from the ballot, saying they did not meet eligibility requirements. The Republicans included Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick and others in congressional and state legislative races.
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The all-GOP court only rejected it because it was too close to the general election. They’ll totally gut third parties next cycle.
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MisterStompy 8/29/2022 2:47 PM
The Chief of General Staff has asked all bloggers and influencers to "shut up" so you're unlikely would hear any definitive news until at least tomorrow. And tomorrow you definitely wouldn’t hear that Kherson is surrounded or liberated. And that’s totally ok.
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It'd be fine if you were still around in 2020 - Jo Jorgensen wasn't at all like what Mises caucus would want the LP party to be
MisterStompy 8/29/2022 2:48 PM
Jo Jorgensen was pretty cool, tbh
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BubsyFanboy 8/29/2022 2:48 PM
Reminds me of a meme of a guy freaking out over how stupid a "Libertarians for Trump" sign is. Can't find it right now, so here's a supplementary meme, ig
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Reminds me of a meme of a guy freaking out over how stupid a "Libertarians for Trump" sign is. Can't find it right now, so here's a supplementary meme, ig
thechromatograph3r 8/29/2022 5:22 PM
mOsT LiBeRtAriAn PrEsiDeNT eVeR
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Reminds me of a meme of a guy freaking out over how stupid a "Libertarians for Trump" sign is. Can't find it right now, so here's a supplementary meme, ig
TheAnonymousDew 8/29/2022 5:52 PM
Trump's no libertarian
5:53 PM
Considering he tried to the government to prosecute people who didn't agree with him
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thechromatograph3r
mOsT LiBeRtAriAn PrEsiDeNT eVeR
LeAsT RaCiST PrEsiDEnT EvEr
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LeAsT RaCiST PrEsiDEnT EvEr
thechromatograph3r 8/29/2022 6:27 PM
He ain’t the most, but most certainly ain’t the least
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thechromatograph3r
He ain’t the most, but most certainly ain’t the least
Who is/was, in your opinion?
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Who is/was, in your opinion?
thechromatograph3r 8/29/2022 6:39 PM
That’s a tough one to be honest. Depends on overt vs. sly
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Woodrow Wilson straight up showed brith of a nation in the White House so he's definitely up there
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Many schools have renamed from Woodrow Wilson. (edited)
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HLMenckenFan 8/29/2022 7:36 PM
WILSOOOOOOOOOON
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mOsT LiBeRtAriAn PrEsiDeNT eVeR
Braakinthesaddle 8/30/2022 1:40 AM
Someone once said this to me completely seriously. He was a psychologist. PhD, full licensure, worked with him in the mental health clinic where I was stationed as an MH tech. I was registered with the LP at the time, and I couldn't believe he thought that.
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BubsyFanboy 8/30/2022 5:28 AM
🚨 URGENT & CRITICAL: Armed Forces of Ukraine are requesting that everyone go dark on posting any information, videos, photos, with regards to the Battle for Kherson. Operation Security is critical. Please spread this message across all social media channels.
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Someone once said this to me completely seriously. He was a psychologist. PhD, full licensure, worked with him in the mental health clinic where I was stationed as an MH tech. I was registered with the LP at the time, and I couldn't believe he thought that.
heinz_ketchup 8/30/2022 11:52 AM
A friend of mine is a psychoanalyst, PhD, living in Manhattan, jewish, who thinks Trump and Ted Cruz are the greatest politicians in America. its bonkers. (edited)
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joe hill’s revenge 8/30/2022 12:30 PM
Am I having a stroke, I feel@like im having a stroke. Such a random collection of words
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thechromatograph3r 8/30/2022 4:13 PM
LMAO Trump's Truth Social barred from Google Play store over content moderation policy https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/30/trump-truth-social-barred-from-google-play-store-content-moderation-concerns.html
Truth Social, the would-be Twitter competitor created by Trump Media and Technology Group, remains unavailable on the Google Play store.
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What drives his anger?
Religion.
Catholicism is toxic af.
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thechromatograph3r 8/30/2022 5:33 PM
I didn’t know he was still alive up to this point
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HLMenckenFan 8/30/2022 5:33 PM
RIP
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heinz_ketchup 8/30/2022 5:35 PM
is it too much to hope for some sort of narrative of the end of the cold war that isn't "reagan beat the evil empire"
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is it too much to hope for some sort of narrative of the end of the cold war that isn't "reagan beat the evil empire"
BubsyFanboy 8/31/2022 3:01 AM
Just say the empire beat itself
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Reagan actively caused mass global chaos that caused the empire to collapse on its own flaws, unaware those same flaws where showing in the cracks in America?
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also
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to be more specific, this bit: "Federal prosecutors claim that recovered documents showed that “certain pages of presidential records had been torn up,” a crime that pivotally bars anyone from ever again holding a political office in the United States."
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https://twitter.com/MIAagainstFash/status/1564388444947849220 that fbi raid on the PB founder was apparently faked. Disappointing to say the least
NEW - Proud Boy founder Gavin McInnes' on-air FBI raid & presumed arrest were apparently faked. Racist troll comedian Owen Benjamin posted on Instagram earlier today supposed texts from McInnes stating it was all a "prank." Bejamin calls his stunt an "attention grift." 🤡
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heinz_ketchup 8/31/2022 10:10 AM
Are there any podcasts that cover Gorbachev's reforms and the end of the cold war, glasnost and perestroika and all that? I would like to learn more details. Seen too many memes about it already.
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Podcasts? Not that I've heard of but I haven't looked.
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Those to cover the collapse and give a brief overview of the events that lead to the collapse of the use
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10:31 AM
Ussr damn phone
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heinz_ketchup 8/31/2022 10:31 AM
thanks I appreciate it
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Sure
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heinz_ketchup 8/31/2022 10:33 AM
in the podcast for that HBO show about chernobyl they talk about how the west criticized the soviet response, some of which was valid, but after they decided to face the problem they did a not-terrible job of trying to fix it, using essentially dictatorial power to mobilize efforts to respond. the hard part was getting them to admit there was a problem. meanwhile in the US we have our share of disasters and the response isn't much better, just different. three mile island, exxon valdez, etc. (edited)
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BubsyFanboy 8/31/2022 10:35 AM
Nice way to admit you can't win fair and square.
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This is the electoral college equivalent of "taco trucks in every corner." Like how is this a bad thing?
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Humans are all the same.
10:44 AM
Children will justify misbehavior by claiming they were wronged, too.
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They all understand that their actions are "wrong," so they will manufacture a cassus belli to take the emotional burden of their shoulders. "It is no longer me acting out, I am justified! They did it first!" They internalize this and teach it to their children.
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People make their hatred a part of their identity, part of their very soul, and so their victimhood is deeply personal. They need that to warrant their beliefs, and to challenge that is to call them out at a very personal level. (edited)
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heinz_ketchup 8/31/2022 10:48 AM
https://ricochet.com/1214468/finnish-intelligence-officer-explains-the-russian-mindset/ What Is Truth? The Russian idea of truth is interesting. After all, language tells how people think, how they perceive the world, and how society thinks. The United States has two words for positive rights: “liberty” and “freedom.” Russia has two words for truth and three words for lie. This is certainly not a coincidence. There’s the word “pravda,” which is truth but not absolute truth. Rather, the kind of truth that gets rid of awkward or bad situations. It’s like tactical truth. “Istina” is the opposite of a lie. Istina is true, as true as can be. But pravda is rather… sometimes it can be true, at other times not so true. There are three words for lie. “Vranyo” is a white lie but on the strategic level. It is also kind of a way to get rid of nasty situations. The Russians know it, but we don’t realize it. We think that there are only truth and lies in the world. It’s just black and white. But the lie in Russia was born under Mongol rule; violence and lying were the way to survive. This tradition has been in their system ever since. Russia has the word “krugovaya poruka,” or gang guarantee. It means that when we have some set of people with a common goal. Be it the Kremlin leadership or the Russian armed forces or whatever. We have a common goal so I step out of the circle and lie to an outsider. My gang hears that I lie but they don’t judge me as a liar because they understand that I am using tactical truth (vranjo) to achieve the greater goals of our gang. The use of tactical truth, or a lie, is accepted if it is done for the benefit of the in-group. Just like you can steal when you don’t steal too much or from the wrong guy. You also get to lie if you lie for the sake of the gang.
Russia has always befuddled Western analysts, a fact best summed up by Winston Churchill who said the multicontinental colossus is "a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma." More recently…
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BubsyFanboy 8/31/2022 12:45 PM
In his 'America First' speech in DC, Trump goes on a long tangent about how the US needs to copy China and other authoritarian countries by executing all drug dealers after a "very quick trial," claiming those countries have "no drug problem whatsoever."
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Nice way to admit you can't win fair and square.
thechromatograph3r 8/31/2022 1:22 PM
You know what's funny? I don't know who Tyler Bowyer is, so I just interpreted the headline as if it was a good thing--like he was phrasing it as a good thing.
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https://twitter.com/MIAagainstFash/status/1564388444947849220 that fbi raid on the PB founder was apparently faked. Disappointing to say the least
I dunno it's making him look pretty pathetic and getting his followers angry at him so it may have done some small good
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thechromatograph3r 8/31/2022 1:26 PM
Hanover County Public Schools in Virginia just enacted a policy that requires the entire school board to collect the names of all trans students using the bathroom. Trans youth must send:
  • Criminal history
  • Physician letters
  • Out themselves to 3rd parties
  • Parental consent
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all of which violate privacy and discrimination laws
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hell the out themselves to 3rd parties got me worried
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BubsyFanboy 8/31/2022 3:08 PM
Mariupol journalist citing city morgues reports at least 113,750 residents died during Russia’s assault, siege and ghettoisation of the Ukrainian city. A horrific figure many times higher than previous estimates. https://t.co/sai1BrPrmc
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Wow
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Oh no
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thechromatograph3r 8/31/2022 4:06 PM
I am determined to ban assault weapons in this country. I did it once before, and we will do it again.
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It’s like Democrats are trying to lose.
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Buy your lowers while you can.
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God I hate politician twitter
4:11 PM
Did he think about how many voters he is encouraging vs. discouraging with this announcement? Even if it is a goal you could at least keep it on the dl
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thechromatograph3r 8/31/2022 4:20 PM
^Biden’s tweeted shit like this double digits in the past week (edited)
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Rep. Ken Buck (R-CO) says Trump having classified documents at Mar-a-Lago “isn’t a concern”: “[Trump] may be writing a memoir. He may be writing an autobiography.”
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I love it when documents relating to national security are just put into memoirs
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MisterStompy 8/31/2022 8:25 PM
This was the guy who was ordering around the unmarked cops in Portland and DC in 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/01/blackwater-founder-erik-prince-to-build-training-camp-in-chinas-xinjiang
Erik Prince ‘unaware’ of deal in region where up to a million Uighurs are reportedly held in detention camps
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Breaking: Mary Peltola (D) defeats Sarah Palin (R) in the #AKAL special election.
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I feel like this is something we should keep in mind to discuss on Sunday
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thechromatograph3r 8/31/2022 9:32 PM
Ranked-choice voting FOR THE WIN
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MisterStompy 8/31/2022 9:33 PM
LibsOfTikTok and Matt Walsh are gonna blow up little kids with cancer https://twitter.com/OscarJournalist/status/1564790169345167362
Happening now: #Boston police set up a perimeter around Boston Children’s hospital after a bomb threat was called. Bomb squad called in. They report no one hurt and are sweeping the building. More at 11 @NBC10Boston
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HLMenckenFan 8/31/2022 9:56 PM
Stochastic terrorism
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BubsyFanboy 9/1/2022 3:50 AM
Saw someone claim Stalin was not a murderer and my brain melted
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I do not envy any European country and what they are facing. Especially with winter coming soon. I hope it's a mild one
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Saw someone claim Stalin was not a murderer and my brain melted
thechromatograph3r 9/1/2022 7:40 AM
Fuckin’ commies
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LibsOfTikTok and Matt Walsh are gonna blow up little kids with cancer https://twitter.com/OscarJournalist/status/1564790169345167362
thechromatograph3r 9/1/2022 7:41 AM
Fucking fascists
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Fuckin’ commies
BubsyFanboy 9/1/2022 8:47 AM
Tankies, you mean.
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Because good luck finding an anarchist* defending that. Followers of any libertarian or democratic ideology, including democratic socialism, will tell you he was a tyrant. *one of the instances where it doesn't matter if you think this word means ancoms, ancaps or both; this is something everyone agrees on (edited)
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MisterStompy 9/1/2022 11:53 AM
Republicans claim a new ranked-choice system approved by Alaska voters is some kind of nefarious Democratic plot
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MisterStompy 9/1/2022 12:01 PM
lmaaaaoooo
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"ballot exhaustion" lol "oh my goodness, filling out that form just wore me out. I need at least 2 years to recover before doing that again"
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MisterStompy
lmaaaaoooo
thechromatograph3r 9/1/2022 1:10 PM
That’s…no. That’s not how you interpret the numbers, No-Quarter
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MisterStompy
lmaaaaoooo
thechromatograph3r 9/1/2022 1:13 PM
51% of voters voted for a Democrat for president in 2016, but thanks to a convoluted process called the Electoral College—which disenfranchises voters—a Republican “won.”
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MisterStompy 9/1/2022 1:30 PM
ever since Shaun made that YouTube about America only using the atomic bombs because they were racist you've had tankies all over Twitter downplaying Imperial Japan's war crimes (edited)
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1:37 PM
Yo, what the fuck?
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thechromatograph3r 9/1/2022 1:55 PM
I don't think people realize just how many judges Trump appointed. Obama left a considerable number of them blank if I remember correctly.
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MisterStompy 9/1/2022 2:57 PM
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Taco Avenger 9/1/2022 8:29 PM
damn, tell it, gizmodo
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Straight for the throat
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HLMenckenFan 9/1/2022 8:56 PM
Damn right
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r/selfawarewolves
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BubsyFanboy 9/2/2022 3:10 AM
A group called BOAK has claimed responsibility for destroying communications towers and delaying trains used to deliver weapons to the military.
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glorious
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BubsyFanboy 9/2/2022 5:10 AM
News this morning: 🇱🇮 Earthquake shakes Liechtenstein parliament during earthquake debate 🇫🇷 Macron defends his continued diplomatic efforts and phone calls with Putin 🇸🇲 San Marino legalises abortion, a year after landmark referendum
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Now that is irony.
5:11 AM
Poor Liechtenstein
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BubsyFanboy 9/2/2022 7:24 AM
TL;DR: they're to copy Poland and Hungary strategies
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Taco Avenger
damn, tell it, gizmodo
thechromatograph3r 9/2/2022 7:28 AM
I would LOVE for MSM to refer to him as such
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Aces high
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thechromatograph3r 9/2/2022 11:42 AM
It’s amusing to hear Republicans devoted to the Electoral College argue, after Sarah Palin’s AKAL ranked-choice electoral defeat, that the person who gets the most votes should win the election, and that anything else amounts to disenfranchisement. The irony is lost on them. A majority of Alaskan voters might have preferred a Republican in theory, but they did not prefer Palin, the actual Republican candidate. There is nothing wrong with opposing ranked-choice voting. There’s also nothing wrong with arguing that a particular set of rules might skew the outcome in one direction or another. People will come to different conclusions about the most fair or efficient way to run elections. That’s a normal part of democracy. The difference here is that Alaska’s RCV system is not being evaluated on the basis of whether or not it results in a fair election, but whether it produces a GOP victory. If it does not, then they decry the system as corrupt. That conservatives are embracing majoritarian arguments to argue against ranked-choice voting is nevertheless illuminating, because it shows that they believe in majoritarianism only where Republicans can expect a majority. Otherwise, they seem to believe, some sort of electoral system is necessary to properly weight the votes of conservative constituencies so that they count more than everyone else’s. As the only true Americans, they’re entitled to win every election every time. Anything else is just election rigging.
11:48 AM
Fucking hell, empty classified folders? Where are the documents?
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I don't think we're going to like that answer.....
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TheAnonymousDew 9/2/2022 12:23 PM
Republicans are angry that we're not playing around anymore, my thoughts are they had their chance to reject MAGA extremism in 2016
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They had every chance to reject it from 2016 to now. They failed every single time
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Had They put their foot down on trump we likely wouldn't be here rn
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Instead they became complicit
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TheAnonymousDew 9/2/2022 12:29 PM
^
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And Lindsey Graham has become an invertebrate
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"But you're a liberal, I thought you were tolerant?" Fuck no, I have my limits.
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Yeah pretty much, though in my case I was told it after group member had deleted a large portion of a group project. Said group member was also chronically late/ absent. (edited)
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Zed-Juron
"But you're a liberal, I thought you were tolerant?" Fuck no, I have my limits.
TheAnonymousDew 9/2/2022 1:00 PM
No, the tolerant left is down the hall from us. We are the "beat the shit out of and/or humiliate fascists" left
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MisterStompy 9/2/2022 1:03 PM
Thank you. God bless you. God bless the United States of America.
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thechromatograph3r 9/2/2022 1:06 PM
A jury of six people found Seminole County GOP Chairman Ben Paris guilty on Thursday of a misdemeanor charge.
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Zed-Juron
"But you're a liberal, I thought you were tolerant?" Fuck no, I have my limits.
thechromatograph3r 9/2/2022 1:06 PM
I ain't no liberal. I'm a progressive libertarian, and I don't have to tolerate that which is fundamentally wrong.
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TheAnonymousDew 9/2/2022 1:07 PM
I mean no offense but a lot of "libertarians" just want the freedom to be selfish assholes
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thechromatograph3r 9/2/2022 1:09 PM
Small-L libertarianism, not capital-L Libertarian party.
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Hey, Junior, your daddy literally gave a speech about this, and then asked Gen. Milley why we couldn't "just shoot" them.
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thechromatograph3r
I ain't no liberal. I'm a progressive libertarian, and I don't have to tolerate that which is fundamentally wrong.
I just told him I don't have to tolerate incompetence.
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Zed-Juron
I just told him I don't have to tolerate incompetence.
thechromatograph3r 9/2/2022 1:25 PM
Good on you
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MisterStompy 9/2/2022 5:01 PM
The lead singer of Dropkick Murphys spitting some 🔥🔥🔥
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HLMenckenFan 9/2/2022 5:10 PM
Damn...
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HLMenckenFan 9/2/2022 8:09 PM
Mask off LP
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TheAnonymousDew 9/2/2022 8:51 PM
Exactly.
8:51 PM
libertarians are idiots and selfish assholes
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HLMenckenFan
Damn...
thechromatograph3r 9/2/2022 9:45 PM
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HLMenckenFan 9/2/2022 10:04 PM
They're authoritarian
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MisterStompy 9/2/2022 11:14 PM
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HLMenckenFan 9/2/2022 11:27 PM
What a fool
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HLMenckenFan 9/2/2022 11:31 PM
Words can't describe how embarrassed I am by that man (edited)
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The desperate need to be the victim 100% of the time.
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HLMenckenFan 9/2/2022 11:44 PM
r/persecutionfetish
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Damn...
BubsyFanboy 9/3/2022 2:51 AM
Why is the Mises Caucus so cringe?
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Like, I understand this stance for libertarianism in general, but they haven't been so negative about democracy when Trump was in power.
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MisterStompy
Thank you. God bless you. God bless the United States of America.
BubsyFanboy 9/3/2022 2:54 AM
Not sure how to feel about the government embracing the Dark Brandon meme. A bit closer to finding it funny though.
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Like, I understand this stance for libertarianism in general, but they haven't been so negative about democracy when Trump was in power.
HLMenckenFan 9/3/2022 7:57 AM
The Mises Caucus is Hoppean I think (edited)
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BubsyFanboy 9/3/2022 9:16 AM
Trump retruthed a socialist post XDDDD
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Damn...
BubsyFanboy 9/3/2022 10:03 AM
Ludwig von Mises was clearly and decisively in favor of democracy. Libertarians who oppose democracy are making a category mistake. There will always be some decisions made at every scale of human cooperation. The only question is which method will be used for making decisions.
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HLMenckenFan 9/3/2022 11:25 AM
I learned a few years ago that Mises was an advisor to Austrian dictator Engelbert Dolfuss. (edited)
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I can’t determine how many libertarians are anti democracy or pro democracy
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Click to see attachment 🖼️
thechromatograph3r 9/3/2022 11:56 AM
Hot takes with fascists
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HLMenckenFan 9/3/2022 11:57 AM
He’s defending Hitler
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thechromatograph3r 9/3/2022 11:57 AM
Yea, the Mises Caucus destroyed the LP. The Pirate Party sounds based, though.
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Who even is this 'Mises Caucus'?
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Who even is this 'Mises Caucus'?
mises caucus are defined as paleoconservative, and strongly ancap/ antigovernment in belief. Essentially Proud boys
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HLMenckenFan 9/3/2022 1:10 PM
Mises Caucus libertarians believe they are continuing the legacy of the Ron Paul movement
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Thanks. I know next to nothing about the LP so I wanted to ask
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HLMenckenFan 9/3/2022 1:15 PM
Ok
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The LP takeover by the Mises caucus is everything you need to know about the future of libertarianism
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Yea, I thought that was a person not a faction
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HLMenckenFan 9/3/2022 1:38 PM
It's named after a person and an institute. It is trying to inject the Mises Institute into the LP. (edited)
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Got it. Thanks for clarifying
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HLMenckenFan 9/3/2022 1:42 PM
No problem.
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Taco Avenger 9/3/2022 2:48 PM
A chud by any other name
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Steve Mike 9/3/2022 3:22 PM
Mises Pieces
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An old Halloween costume idea
3:28 PM
I have no words.
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I have words " oh it's PragerU"
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HLMenckenFan 9/3/2022 3:56 PM
Don't get me started on that Youtube channel.
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Don't get me started on that Youtube channel.
I'll never forget in 2017 how when I started watching the Great War YouTube channel meant that I would get shit tons of their videos as adverts
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HLMenckenFan 9/3/2022 5:02 PM
PragerU is horrible
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BubsyFanboy 9/3/2022 5:54 PM
7 🇯🇵Japan Coast Guard’s cutters patrolling in 🇹🇼Taiwan Strait today, and 🇨🇳China didn’t say a word.
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I'll never forget in 2017 how when I started watching the Great War YouTube channel meant that I would get shit tons of their videos as adverts
HLMenckenFan 9/3/2022 6:28 PM
That was one of their worst videos. In my personal opinion. (edited)
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HLMenckenFan 9/3/2022 8:04 PM
Amid GOP criticism of Biden's speech, a video showed a rolling roster of high-profile conservatives calling Democratic initiatives and politicians fascist.
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MisterStompy 9/3/2022 8:54 PM
Kiwi Farms, the web forum centered around harassing people—especially trans people—will no longer benefit from the web services of Cloudflare, which today gave it the boot. After being implicated i…
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Kiwifarms users started doxing other Cloudfare customers that said they didn't want to be associatedc with Kiwifarms. That probably was what put them over the edge.
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Escalating threats and the potential risk for human life has compelled Cloudflare to block Kiwifarms from being accessed through our infrastructure. Complete details can be found in our latest blog post. https://t.co/AccDkiw0DF
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MisterStompy 9/3/2022 9:30 PM
lmao
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"JOURNALISTS WON'T USE MY WEBSITE FULL OF SLANDER AND PROJECTION AS A VALID SOURCE!"
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HLMenckenFan 9/3/2022 11:03 PM
Donald Trump just called Joe Biden an "enemy of the state" at his rally. He did this in the first 120 seconds of his speech. I assume the U.S. Secret Service will investigate?
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He can call JB an enemy of the state, but calling trump a fascist is just too far and uncalled for.
11:08 PM
Like ok man
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HLMenckenFan 9/3/2022 11:08 PM
Speaking at his first rally since the FBI search of his home, Trump responded to Biden's remarks that MAGA ideology is creating "threats to American democracy."
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HLMenckenFan 9/3/2022 11:33 PM
Conservatives love doing that; it's their favorite pasttime (edited)
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they're just making him sound even more based
HLMenckenFan 9/3/2022 11:59 PM
Indeed
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BubsyFanboy 9/4/2022 9:03 AM
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene shared a doctored video of Joe Biden edited to resemble Hitler, and wrote: "Joe Biden is Hitler. #NaziJoe has to go."
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Steve Mike 9/4/2022 9:45 AM
They're trying to flood the zone with so much Nazi talk so that it neutralizes when they are rightfully accused of actually doing fascist things. Spoil the meaning of words, destroy the meaning of truth. It's literally been cited as one of the first things dictators do to take total power. Neuter the ability to criticize anything
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Oh and have I mentioned how fucking sick I am of this bitch?
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HLMenckenFan 9/4/2022 12:03 PM
Speaking at a rally in Pennsylvania on Saturday, former President Donald Trump praised Chinese leader Xi Jinping and Russian President Vladimir Putin.
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MisterStompy 9/4/2022 12:10 PM
📷Ukrainian troops raised Ukrainian flag on the roof of hospital in Vysokopillya, #Kherson Oblast. #UkraineRussiaWar
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BubsyFanboy 9/4/2022 3:36 PM
https://tvn24.pl/polska/jaroslaw-kaczynski-w-nowym-targu-o-zmianach-prawnych-ktore-pozwola-lepiej-kontrolowac-wyniki-wyborow-i-stworzeniu-armii-na-wybory-6096469 Jarosław Kaczyński, PiS chairman, spoke about the upcoming elections on Saturday. - We need to create - apart from the fact that we have to introduce some legal changes that will allow better control of the election results - (...) an army that will guard the elections in each constituency - he assessed. In his opinion, the "army" should number "tens of thousands of people". The Law and Justice (PiS) leader also referred to high prices for heating materials. "People have to smoke everything now, except, of course, the tires and the like", he said.
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They're trying to flood the zone with so much Nazi talk so that it neutralizes when they are rightfully accused of actually doing fascist things. Spoil the meaning of words, destroy the meaning of truth. It's literally been cited as one of the first things dictators do to take total power. Neuter the ability to criticize anything
Taco Avenger 9/4/2022 4:19 PM
insert Satre quote about anti-semites here
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HLMenckenFan 9/4/2022 11:30 PM
.@LPNational's vice chair just came out strongly in favor of repealing the right for women and non-whites to vote. It's clear: LPMC exists to completely destroy the brand of libertarianism and wipe away the work of our thousands of activists and leaders.
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11:33 PM
Madness
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What the f---.......
11:41 PM
It's disturbing the excuses and the support I'm seeing on that thread. Way to go in killing libertarianism
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HLMenckenFan 9/5/2022 12:12 AM
It's on life support
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I think life support is putting it mildly now
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HLMenckenFan 9/5/2022 12:20 AM
Never mind
12:24 AM
It's gone
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Do they even realize that's even worse???
12:27 AM
That's asking for a corporate dictatorship!
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HLMenckenFan 9/5/2022 12:33 AM
Oh I need to share you this
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LPNH shared this shit
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LPNH shared this shit
BubsyFanboy 9/5/2022 2:59 AM
Spreading Putin's messaging. Good job, LPNH. Too bad Putin doesn't care about you.
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HLMenckenFan 9/5/2022 8:48 AM
lol
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BubsyFanboy 9/5/2022 8:51 AM
Kiwi farms has now been dropped by DDoS Guard, their Russian protection for the RU domain. Joshua Moon is basically admitting defeat as there's no place left for him to turn to now that even Russia won't help him. APNIC may even revoke his IP addresses as they are Australian.
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not strictly American politics but liz truss will be the next UK PM https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/09/05/world/uk-prime-minister?smid=tw-share
Britain’s Conservative Party members chose Ms. Truss, the hawkish foreign secretary, over Rishi Sunak, the former chancellor of the Exchequer. She will replace Boris Johnson, who is stepping down after multiple scandals.
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LPNH shared this shit
MisterStompy 9/5/2022 11:20 AM
funny thing is the Russian libertarian party has condemned Putin
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HLMenckenFan 9/5/2022 11:20 AM
I know. I saw that
11:20 AM
I have a hunch they are on Putin's payroll
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Maybe I'm sayin too much
11:25 AM
There is a subreddit called EnoughLibertarianSpam. There are a lot of lefty users on there, but there are tankies too. (edited)
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thechromatograph3r 9/5/2022 12:21 PM
BREAKING: Judge Aileen Cannon grants Trump’s request and orders the appointment of a special master to review questions over the materials seized at Mar-a-Lago. She also halts use of the materials for “criminal investigative purposes” pending the special master’s review.
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thechromatograph3r 9/5/2022 12:29 PM
Reading the whole filing, Cannon strongly leans beyond the question of appointing a special master and delves into whether indicting Trump, who appointed her, would be a valid act
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In addition to appealing Judge Cannon’s ruling, DOJ can ask the Eleventh Circuit for a stay of that ruling pending appeal (if it actually needs a stay). Whoever loses on that issue (whether to stay the ruling pending appeal) can then take that matter to #SCOTUS.
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I don’t think the absolute freakout over this is warranted. I don’t think it’s the right outcome, equitably, but numerous elements of the written decision don’t support it being the catastrophe people are saying. But there seems to be very little point in saying so.
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And we all know which way scotus is going to rule... sigh
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It's genuinely hard to tell whose worse of in this situation. The UK with all their crises, or our singular big one.
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And we all know which way scotus is going to rule... sigh
thechromatograph3r 9/5/2022 1:07 PM
Assuming SCOTUS takes it up
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Assuming SCOTUS takes it up
Idk why they wouldn't. I fully believe scotus is compromised
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Justice Thomas as well. Isn't his stated objective to make the left miserable?
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Yeah really tired of how the "left wing" out there tries to both sides everything. As if there is a sort of equivalence
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A quick read through of the news tells me we are gonna be waiting until Friday to hear anything further. This week is gonna be nerve wracking on that front.
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thechromatograph3r 9/5/2022 1:22 PM
This country’s left-wing activism is an utter joke compared to France, Chile, Sudan, or Sri Lanka
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BubsyFanboy 9/5/2022 1:32 PM
KHERSON/1340 UTC 5 SEP/ UKR continues to expand a bridgehead across the Ingulets River, east of Snihurivka. Exploiting this breakthrough, advanced units of the UKR army are reported to have taken the village of Bezimenne.
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I shared this a bit ago, I hadn't actually read it all at the time though. Since finishing it I'm freaked out at the look into his past and the implications for the future.
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@heinz_ketchup what did you find interesting about the article, in particular?
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The power he has is pretty terrifying
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This smacks of opinions written by Alito
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its a very black and white way of looking at the world
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HLMenckenFan 9/5/2022 5:33 PM
The libertarian party is simply the Republicans rebranded. Always have been. https://t.co/uSoEVrG4kX
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5:35 PM
r/politicspeopletwitter is okay
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thechromatograph3r 9/5/2022 5:35 PM
This is fucking solid
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HLMenckenFan 9/5/2022 5:37 PM
I agree with you
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thechromatograph3r 9/5/2022 6:05 PM
Excuse the fuck me? “Liberal teaching agenda?”
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HLMenckenFan 9/5/2022 7:40 PM
"woke"
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MisterStompy 9/5/2022 8:11 PM
The Russian service DDosguard just dropped Kiwifarms
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There are no more websites that will provide protection for their servers, which means that Fiberhub will be under a lot of pressure not just from people who want the website down but from the website itself
8:12 PM
It's gonna be a drain on resources
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8:15 PM
For those who ask you can't just host a place like Kiwifarms on the dark web, not only would that defeat the purpose of the site which was to give easy access to people's personal information and embarassing personal details, but Kiwifarms was massive. Hosting on the dark web requires you to use servers you have at home, and Joshua Moon rarely has a place he can call home. (edited)
8:16 PM
Even if he did have a permanent residence, do you realize how much it would cost to get those servers?
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He wouldn't have the space. The electricity required would be ludicrous.
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And good luck torrenting that shit, it's terabytes and terabytes of data, data that hardly anybody even gives a shit about.
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thechromatograph3r 9/5/2022 8:45 PM
People don’t realize just how many judges Trump appointed because Obama fucking left them vacant
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Also, what is KiwiFarms?
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Also, what is KiwiFarms?
MisterStompy 9/5/2022 8:49 PM
a webforum dedicated to harassing people that the users didn't like, including the mentally ill, minorities, LGBTQ, etc
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they recently started swatting people
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HLMenckenFan 9/5/2022 8:52 PM
Just got shut down
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People don’t realize just how many judges Trump appointed because Obama fucking left them vacant
Taco Avenger 9/5/2022 8:53 PM
did Obama leave them vacant, or did McConnell refuse to allow appointments?
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did Obama leave them vacant, or did McConnell refuse to allow appointments?
thechromatograph3r 9/5/2022 8:54 PM
Pretty sure there was a rule change that prevented that
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thechromatograph3r 9/5/2022 9:10 PM
Republicans & conservatives are arguing a president can leave office with whatever documents he wants—nuclear weapons plans, lists of intelligence sources, names of agents—and store them in his basement, and the USG has no power to get them back beyond asking nicely over & over.
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At that point why classify anything then. Just post all materials online, damn the consequences.
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BubsyFanboy 9/6/2022 5:18 AM
[Polish article] https://fakty.tvn24.pl/ogladaj-online,60/mial-weglowy-ma-zastapic-brakujacy-wegiel-liczba-zgonow-moze-wzrosnac,1117524.html The polish government is officially allowing burning culm (coal refuse/waste). It was initially banned due to environmental and health hazards. As a result of the congress (Sejm) vote to relegalize it, Polski Alarm Smogowy is warning of many more deaths from smog as a result. This comes shortly after PiS chairman Jarosław Kaczyński told citizens they can "burn anything except tires" and that "Poland must be heated".
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BubsyFanboy 9/6/2022 5:49 AM
Southern Axis Update: #Ukrainian special forces conducted a limited operation against a #Russian FSB base in the Enerhodar area. /1 https://t.co/8272yqOON3
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BubsyFanboy 9/6/2022 8:12 AM
Europeans confirm their strong support for the EU's response to Russia's war of aggression. 78% of citizens support EU economic sanctions on Russia. Almost 7 in 10 are in favour of financing the supply and delivery of military equipment to Ukraine. #StandWithUkraine 👇
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8:12 AM
Sorry for the textwalls, but there's no dedicated channel for Ukraine v Russia affairs
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It's all good man
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Sorry for the textwalls, but there's no dedicated channel for Ukraine v Russia affairs
thechromatograph3r 9/6/2022 12:20 PM
We really should have an international-events channel
12:20 PM
This.
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To recap: A federal judge in a civil case enjoined the Executive's chief law enforcement officer from looking TS/SCI government docs that his agency has had for four weeks because the private citizen who stole them might claim a privilege that belongs to the current Executive...
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thechromatograph3r 9/6/2022 12:43 PM
Ruling that the attack on the Capitol was an insurrection and that Griffin’s participation in it disqualified him under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. This decision marks the first time since 1869 that a court has disqualified a public official under Section 3, and the first time that any court has ruled the events of January 6, 2021 an insurrection.
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thechromatograph3r 9/6/2022 1:16 PM
A Republican county official in Georgia escorted two operatives working with an attorney for former President Donald Trump into the county's election offices on the same day a voting system there was breached, newly obtained video shows.
“News: A GOP county official in Georgia, who served as a fake elector, escorted 2 operatives working wi/ Trump lawyer Sidney Powell into the county's election offices on same day voting system there was breached, per newly obtained video. Story w/ @JMOCNN https://t.co/aR11WlH4su”
New: Security video shows two GOP tech consultants repeatedly visiting a Georgia elections office in the weeks after a Jan. 2021 breach of voting equipment there that’s now under criminal investigation https://t.co/cJl8dyzRb7
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BubsyFanboy 9/6/2022 1:35 PM
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The Russian Imperial Movement makes Azov Batallion look like the Proud Boys
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We really should have an international-events channel
HLMenckenFan 9/6/2022 6:46 PM
Good idea
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thechromatograph3r 9/6/2022 6:49 PM
OMG read this quote from the judge in the Griffin case:
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Today, Senator Cash (R - Anderson) tried to explain why it’s okay for 16 and 17 year olds to get married, but not to have access to contraception. Don’t take my word for it. Listen yourself: #StopTheBanSC
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some gross shit coming out of SC, cant wait to vote in november (edited)
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Don't what to get spammy but I hope this gives you all a laugh https://twitter.com/alt_uscis/status/1566602958669860864?s=21&t=yuFIWA9Heq3mr5NIXBRegg
This is epic work
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Hmm the video in the tweet isn't showing up.
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thechromatograph3r 9/7/2022 12:14 AM
BREAKING WAPO: A document describing a foreign government's military defenses — including its nuclear capabilities — was found by FBI agents who searched Trump's home, according to people familiar with the matter. https://t.co/ploMHLHvDa
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FiveThirtyEight reached out to every single Republican nominee for House, Senate, governor, secretary of state and attorney general in 2022 to determine whether they accepted or denied the results of the 2020 election.
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Leonard Leo's "Honest Elections Project" files Supreme Court brief arguing state legislatures are not constrained by even state constitutions protecting voting rights when they regulate federal elections. https://t.co/iNdZVMSjls
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And, unsurprisingly, ALEC takes the same position---state legislatures should be unconstrained (apparently not only unconstrained by state courts but also "federal judges"): https://t.co/RF8uOMT5JV
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@rickhasen Missouri Sec of State has filed a brief that goes further; it argues that state legisl. action on congressional redistricts is NOT subject to being altered or overruled even by Congress. That's most extreme filing so far.
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BREAKING: Steve Bannon will be indicted in NY state court Thursday, turning himself in. Charges are being brought by the Manhattan DA and are expected to parallel the federal charges for which Trump pardoned Bannon — around the “Build the Wall” fraudulent scam.
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BubsyFanboy 9/7/2022 4:10 AM
https://twitter.com/JayinKyiv/status/1567087612485111811 Putin's "nuclear option" on gas no longer works on the EU https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/1567323012151402496 All villages keep having its people abducted by Russian occupants https://twitter.com/SamRamani2/status/1567061945647341568 Zelensky's advisor predicts Russian Armed Forces will have trouble following the encirclement near Kherson (edited)
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BubsyFanboy 9/7/2022 8:22 AM
President Vladimir Putin said on Wednesday that Russia had gained, not lost, from the conflict in Ukraine because it was embarking on a new sovereign path that would restore its global clout.
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The names of hundreds of U.S. law enforcement officers, elected officials and military members appear on the leaked membership rolls of a far-right extremist group that's accused of playing a key role in the Jan.
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Taco Avenger 9/7/2022 9:10 AM
it's also not surprising
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it's infuriating though.
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Those that work forces/ are the same that burn crosses
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JohnBrosGhost 9/7/2022 11:55 AM
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Get out the vote, y’all.
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thechromatograph3r 9/7/2022 11:59 AM
COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — A South Carolina Senate committee voted Tuesday to remove exceptions for rape and incest from a proposed abortion ban setting up a showdown among Republicans wary of passing such a restrictive bill.
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The names of hundreds of U.S. law enforcement officers, elected officials and military members appear on the leaked membership rolls of a far-right extremist group that's accused of playing a key role in the Jan.
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thechromatograph3r 9/7/2022 12:37 PM
BREAKING: US District Judge Reed O’Connor in Texas rules that requiring employers to provide coverage for PrEP drugs (preventing the transmission of HIV) violates the religious rights of employers under federal law (RFRA).
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Separation of church and state is dead in healthcare
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thechromatograph3r 9/7/2022 12:49 PM
Florida's "Stop WOKE Act" violates the First Amendment, professors' right to teach, and students' ability to learn. So @TheFIREorg is suing. https://t.co/DaAvoISt3j
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Taco Avenger 9/7/2022 4:27 PM
80 Republican politicians, 370 police officers and sheriffs, and over 100 active-duty members of the military
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80 Republican politicians, 370 police officers and sheriffs, and over 100 active-duty members of the military
thechromatograph3r 9/7/2022 5:14 PM
I know. It’s beyond alarming.
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HLMenckenFan 9/7/2022 6:40 PM
"Fuck Democracy": MAGA Republicans In Their Own Words
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thechromatograph3r 9/7/2022 7:06 PM
In a rare move, the group of all 50 states' Supreme Court chief justices wrote to SCOTUS, urging them to shoot down the argument NC Republican lawmakers are making--that there should be no checks and balances for election laws--in their "Independent State Legislature" case #ncpol
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thechromatograph3r 9/7/2022 8:34 PM
The evening before Michigan's state primary, Wayne County GOP leaders held a Zoom training session for poll workers and partisan observers -- warning them about "bad stuff happening" during the election and encouraging them to ignore local election rules barring cell phones and pens from polling places and vote-counting centers.
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TheAnonymousDew 9/7/2022 11:21 PM
The ISL theory is also total nonsense
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It's only one step removed from Soverign Citizens
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TheAnonymousDew 9/8/2022 3:22 AM
Okay, a cult being part of another cult is pretty ironic
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BubsyFanboy 9/8/2022 5:15 AM
That is awful. Vote these bastards out.
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Okay, a cult being part of another cult is pretty ironic
thechromatograph3r 9/8/2022 8:22 AM
This is what the Bible warned them about
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MisterStompy 9/8/2022 1:33 PM
US volunteer in a Humvee storming Russian positions in Kharkiv. https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1567913477070802946 (edited)
A Ukrainian mechanized unit storms a Russian position
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"Give me ammo!" *hands him at4.
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MisterStompy 9/8/2022 1:37 PM
Queen Elizabeth II has died, Buckingham Palace has announced.
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MisterStompy 9/8/2022 1:55 PM
I don't think she was personally responsible for anything terrible but monarchies are garbage, and I'm pretty sure one of her sons did horrible shit.
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Not the one who fought in Iraq or whatever, some other guy.
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Either way it's good England's monarchy is symbolic
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No war of succession
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thechromatograph3r 9/8/2022 2:43 PM
Agreed. The UK is de facto a democracy, and I don't think anyone really disputes that. The monarchy is symbolic; the monarch is a figurehead at this point. Yes, we're Iron Front. Yes, we stand against monarchies, but Liz II was, as far as I'm aware, a good person.
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That's not the kind of Monarchy we oppose, yeah.
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For those who don't get it, we can have tact and context when we pick our battles. Just because it's a "monarchy" doesn't make it inherently evil or a problem. It's not a central African warlord declaring himself king to better suppress his people.
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We do also oppose the, admittedly rare, monarchists here in the states. But those guys are so few and far between that we have semi regular discussion about what the third arrow means.
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In theory we should opposed the British monarchy. But in practicality it's already weak enough that it doesn't matter. We would, however; be strongly opposed to an expansion of the monarchy's powers in the future.
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Taco Avenger 9/8/2022 3:58 PM
eh
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BubsyFanboy 9/8/2022 4:43 PM
Indeed.
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I've seen takes like this too
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I understand the frustration, but someone needs to tell the people that the queen of England is not in charge of war efforts or colonization. (edited)
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I understand the frustration, but someone needs to tell the people that the queen of England is not in charge of war efforts or colonization. (edited)
also events that happened before she was even born
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thechromatograph3r 9/8/2022 5:48 PM
A lot of rightoids are shitting on the royal family for being “dirty leftists.”
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The Michigan Supreme Court orders that the abortion-rights proposal be placed on the November ballot, according to news release from group opposing the initiative.
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TheAnonymousDew 9/8/2022 7:48 PM
I'm cool with Constitutional Monarchies
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Where the monarch's powers are constrained
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MisterStompy 9/8/2022 8:20 PM
Ukrainians replace a Russian flag on a radio tower outside of Yasynuvate, Kharkiv Oblast
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XD love it. Good to know they're not all crazy
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BubsyFanboy 9/9/2022 7:25 AM
There is nothing decent about funding ISIS and bombing hospitals.
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BubsyFanboy 9/9/2022 7:26 AM
Dafuq???
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HLMenckenFan 9/9/2022 9:19 AM
The Democratic Party didn’t fund ISIS
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BubsyFanboy 9/9/2022 10:48 AM
And no lawsuit came out of it?
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BubsyFanboy 9/9/2022 10:52 AM
I guess from a moral standpoint, Wilson did leave him in a bit of a catch-22 here. He's a coward for censoring by filing a lawsuit, but he's also a coward for not doing it. One side's too sensitive, one's too weak. But we don't need Wilson to remind ourselves who Trump is beyond all his and his puppet media's attempts at showing off. (edited)
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BubsyFanboy 9/9/2022 4:34 PM
Get a load of this galaxy brain: "In Ukraine, d---cracy is gone, it's an authoritarian state in the best sense. His Excellency Volodymyr Zelensky serious has Authority. In Russia there is more d---cracy and THAT'S WHY His Excellency Vladimir Putin has problems with the war: he can't use as drastic methods as in Ukraine!"
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RedMoonWarrior 9/9/2022 4:35 PM
lol tf
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thechromatograph3r 9/9/2022 4:52 PM
Gotta play dirty with these people. It’s the only way.
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BubsyFanboy 9/9/2022 5:24 PM
imo, any kind of populism should be a red flag (edited)
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But it's kind of hard to theorize about democracy in Russia when Putin is ruling the country
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And even if he didn't, we'd have to completely lustrate the KGB from the entire political scene or else the entire democratization process (if there ever will be one) would be completely moot. (edited)
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Feels like it's been a while since if seen someone opening referencing Pinochet. I figured they had moved beyond that
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HLMenckenFan 9/9/2022 11:55 PM
It's a call for murder
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BubsyFanboy 9/10/2022 2:51 AM
Disappointed with the lack of US response to the Hermit Kingdom's attacks against US security researchers, one hacker took matters into his own hands.
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BubsyFanboy 9/10/2022 5:10 AM
Yeah, I recall Russia has that.
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BubsyFanboy 9/10/2022 2:27 PM
https://wiadomosci-onet-pl.translate.goog/kraj/minister-czarnek-albo-polska-bedzie-chrzescijanska-albo-jej-nie-bedzie/llm6509?_x_tr_sl=pl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pl&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://www-wprost-pl.translate.goog/polityka/10845757/czarnek-odniosl-sie-do-protestu-przed-szkola-mial-porade-dla-reportera-tvn24.html?_x_tr_sl=pl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pl&_x_tr_pto=wapp Our education and science minister managed to both display himself wanting to shove Christianity into public education and insult gay and trans students. All in less than a week. In a normal country, someone like him wouldn't even get the minister role.
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thechromatograph3r 9/10/2022 5:22 PM
Trump claims Queen Elizabeth knighted him privately. MSNBC.
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If true, then that would make him ineligible for federal office
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MisterStompy 9/10/2022 5:36 PM
Here's the full statement from Russian Defence Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov on the decision to "regroup" troops from Balakliya and Izyum
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MisterStompy 9/10/2022 6:28 PM
Ukraine recaptured more territory in 4 days than Russia captured in 3 months.
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sucks to suck
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BubsyFanboy 9/11/2022 5:04 AM
We have the #ukraine-russia-war channel now, but thanks
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BubsyFanboy 9/11/2022 6:09 AM
https://youtu.be/Oxz4oY0T85Y Putting this here because in the end the responsibility is on politicians and government-owned operators
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Proud "master race" member publicly made to clean his swastika graffiti
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thechromatograph3r 9/11/2022 9:19 PM
You love to see it
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Former President Donald Trump repeatedly told aides in the days following his 2020 election loss that he would remain in the White House rather than let incoming President Joe Biden take over, according to reporting provided to CNN from a forthcoming book by New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman.
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thechromatograph3r 9/12/2022 12:59 PM
Because of course he said that.
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(that's the flag of Tibet)
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thechromatograph3r 9/12/2022 10:59 PM
BREAKING: Senate Republicans led by @LindseyGrahamSC are planning to introduce a national abortion ban ahead of the 2022 midterm election.
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Covering the 15 week bans as they moved through FL, WV and AZ legislatures this spring, I never remember them being referred to in that way. Republican lawmakers were eager to stress that they were banning as many abortions as possible.
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🚨🚨BREAKING: The Senate Judiciary Committee will investigate allegations that the Justice Department under President Donald Trump sought to use the U.S. attorney’s office in Manhattan to support Mr. Trump politically & pursue his critics, the committee’s chairman said on Monday
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thechromatograph3r 9/13/2022 7:49 AM
Top officials from Donald Trump's political fundraising and former campaign operation are among dozens of people in the former President's orbit who received grand jury subpoenas in recent days -- as the Justice Department intensifies its criminal investigation into January 6, 2021, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter.
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thechromatograph3r 9/13/2022 11:45 AM
Today Senate Republicans are introducing a national abortion ban. “Let the states decide” was always a lie. They want to ban abortion in every state, in every community. I’ll fight this at every turn.
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Fuck you Lindsey too bad you aren't up for election until 2026
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It's gonna be a long 4 years
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thechromatograph3r 9/13/2022 2:00 PM
Unless he has a heart attack or something. Vile mother fucker.
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Also gotta appreciate the brilliance of this maneuver, putting this bill up right before mid terms when abortion is so unpopular
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https://www.newsweek.com/armed-man-arrested-dairy-queen-wanted-restore-trump-king-1742638 I know it's Newsweek but perhaps we should take monarchism more seriously as a threat.
Police said the suspect was described as wearing a "bright yellow safety vest and a rainbow clown wig."
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thechromatograph3r 9/13/2022 5:13 PM
“New: Because the existence of grand jury subpoenas was revealed in Trump's special master litigation, DOJ asked for, and received, permission to unredact info that refers to those subpoenas in the original Mar-a-Lago search warrant affidavit. Doc: https://t.co/FFRkLGh11k”
“JUST IN: At DOJ's request, magistrate unseals more aspects of Mar-a-Lago search warrant affidavit. Key detail: DOJ subpoena for surveillance camerage footage stretched all the way to Jan. 10, 2022. https://t.co/pGJnJ8zNtF”
“Newly unredacted: Neither Corcoran nor Bobb told FBI that Trump declassified anything.”
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oh boy
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BubsyFanboy 9/14/2022 5:06 AM
Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan border forces have clashed along the border one day after Kyrgyz security services flaunted their newly acquired Bayraktar drones
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LessthanLoneWolf 9/14/2022 5:43 AM
Aren’t Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan fighting too? I bet Russia is thrilled with the trouble in their backyard
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Aren’t Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan fighting too? I bet Russia is thrilled with the trouble in their backyard
BubsyFanboy 9/14/2022 8:45 AM
But Russia must also now maintain their line at Ukraine. If their Kherson army collapses, they have no backups for Crimea. Once Ukraine takes that back, Putin's authority will be put under question even by the FSB.
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LessthanLoneWolf 9/14/2022 8:46 AM
@BubsyFanboy let’s hope then. The world would be better off without him
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Y E S
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BubsyFanboy 9/15/2022 4:00 AM
The head of the committee, Antoni Macierewicz, has dismissed TVN's findings as "lies" and accused it of promoting a "Russian" narrative.
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BubsyFanboy 9/15/2022 12:14 PM
Polish government authorities snubbed a European Parliament probe into spyware Pegasus by refusing to show up to an inquiry on Thursday.
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If anyone forgot that our government is reprehensible regardless of the war in Ukraine...
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thechromatograph3r 9/15/2022 12:27 PM
“BREAKING: Supreme Court votes 5-4 to deny Yeshiva University’s emergency request for relief from a state-court order recognizing an LGBTQ organization”
NEW: 5-4 Supreme Court rejects Yeshiva University, clearing the way for recognition of LGBTQ group. Majority says Yeshiva can try again on its religious-rights claim after case has gone through NY courts. Alito, Thomas, Gorsuch, Barrett dissent.
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I know this is just scotus telling the school to go through the proper chain. But I wonder how it would be different if it were a Jesuit school or something.
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BubsyFanboy 9/15/2022 3:03 PM
Amid ideological turmoil, the Libertarian National Committee no longer has active affiliated parties in New Mexico or Virginia.
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Just in time for the mid-terms, eh?
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At this point the LP parties that broke off (not counting LPNH) should just endorse the Pirates or the Democrats.
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Because why support the party that not only now has bigots at top management, but also is fragile enough to sue people for leaving, something that is seriously antithetical to libertarianism? (edited)
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Libriterians are not going to support democrats unless they absolutely have to. Libertarians are all about small government as possible, which is the exact opposite approach of the democrats. But I'm glad to see the part break up over this issue of what the management has become.
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Libertarians are conservatives, so yeah they wont be supporting any democrats
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There used to be left-libertarians, but as soon as that term became salient, it was the rise of right-libertarians, fapping to Ayn Rand.
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MisterStompy 9/15/2022 7:40 PM
Feds say they’ve arrested Catherine Leavy of Westfield, Massachusetts, on charges of making a bomb threat to Boston Children’s Hospital
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There used to be left-libertarians, but as soon as that term became salient, it was the rise of right-libertarians, fapping to Ayn Rand.
MisterStompy 9/15/2022 7:41 PM
The Mises Caucus would think Ayn Rand was a commie because she wanted abortion to be legal at all times.
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MisterStompy 9/15/2022 10:39 PM
That's peculiar
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okay unironically based Biden here
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when was the last time we had a president side with striking workers?
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LessthanLoneWolf 9/15/2022 10:47 PM
For real. Denying sick time was ridiculous
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Biden's well known to love trains, wouldn't surprise me if him sided with the workers was partially due to that.
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Libertarians are conservatives, so yeah they wont be supporting any democrats
BubsyFanboy 9/16/2022 3:03 AM
Not really, many of them vary on social stances. But yeah, their core idea is distrust towards the government. That being said, I have seen some libertarians say they will vote for or join Democrats or the Pirates after the Mises Caucus took over LP National. (edited)
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That's peculiar
BubsyFanboy 9/16/2022 3:04 AM
Should've also added Konfederacja (Poland), AfD (Germany) and Fidesz (Hungary) (edited)
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BubsyFanboy 9/16/2022 8:48 AM
https://t.me/horizontal_russia/14577 The last international bastion of justice in Russia is gone.
As of today, September 16, the European Court of Human Rights will no longer consider human rights violations committed in Russia On March 15, the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe voted to withdraw Russia from the organization. A week later, it became known that the European Convention on Human Rights, under which people could bring cases to the ECHR, would cease to apply to Russia. The Institute of Law and Public Policy summed up Russia's 26 years in the Council of Europe: ⁃ Every eighth ruling issued by the ECHR concerned Russia. The court issued a total of 24,500 rulings; ⁃ It took Russia 20 years to become a leader in these figures; Over the past 10 years, the ECHR has awarded about 2 billion euros in compensation to Russian victims, including 1.8 billion euros in the Yukos case; ⁃ The ECHR found no violations by the state in only 4% of cases.
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thechromatograph3r 9/16/2022 2:15 PM
RENO, Nev. (AP) — The GOP's nominee for Nevada governor said Thursday he would fight against a national abortion ban if Congress were to pass one. “It’s the vote of the people within the state of Nevada, and I will support that,” Joe Lombardo, who is generally anti-abortion, told reporters while campaigning in the state with Virginia Gov.
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Huh, so the party of stricter voter ID refuses to show his ID?
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thechromatograph3r 9/16/2022 2:35 PM
BREAKING: Marjorie Taylor Greene's alleged kicking of 18-year-old Gen Z activist may result in legal action. Who else thinks she should be EXPELLED? ✋
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Taco Avenger 9/16/2022 2:43 PM
There's no reason we should ever believe the words that come out of a Republican's mouth though
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There's no reason we should ever believe the words that come out of a Republican's mouth though
thechromatograph3r 9/16/2022 2:50 PM
Yea, you’re right
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Especially if those words involve actually protecting civil rights
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MisterStompy 9/16/2022 4:52 PM
I will be filming content at the Trump rally in Macomb County, Michigan on October 1st to debunk myths about #MAGACommunism. Make plans to cruise if you are in the area.
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MisterStompy 9/16/2022 5:03 PM
MAGA communism is a pretty old concept https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bolshevism
National Bolshevism (Russian: Национал-большевизм, romanized: Natsional-bol'shevizm, German: Nationalbolschewismus), whose supporters are known as National Bolsheviks (Russian: Национал-большевики, romanized: Natsional-bol'sheviki) or NazBols (Russian: Нацболы, romanized: Natsboly), is a radical political movement that combines ultranationalism ...
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Oh it
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It's certainly interesting
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The Nazbols were so crazy even Stalin didn't want them around
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MisterStompy 9/16/2022 5:15 PM
Biden seriously just sign an executive order federally decriminalizing weed and your approval rating will be in the 80's
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BubsyFanboy 9/17/2022 4:16 AM
She is “gone … gone,” the mother of Mahsa Amini told a reporter. Her 22-year-old daughter, from Sanandaj in western Iran, was arrested by Tehran’s “morality police” on September 14. She was transferred to a hospital that same day in a coma, and died on September 16.
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BubsyFanboy 9/17/2022 6:45 AM
During Marianna Schreiber vs Janusz Korwin-Mikke debate: S: A girl can have a period at the age of 8, do you not consider intercourse with such a girl to be pedophilia? JKM: In our culture, such things do not happen! S: But you would argue not to call it pedophilia? JKM: I don't think it should be punishable.
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Hannity bizarrely gets Ted Cruz to admit that transporting migrants across state lines is illegal and would result in his arrest for human trafficking if he did it
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MisterStompy 9/17/2022 8:50 PM
he looks like a cartoonist charicature
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Lol at "Moderate"
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https://twitter.com/thesheajenkins/status/1201029063168512000?s=46&t=dQTAINoPLEqOH5g55xigTQ now you've got me going down a rabbit hole of videos of him getting punched.
I watched Richard Spencer get punched in the face over and over in this clip but nothing tops this remix. #TwitterMomentsOfTheDecade
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I can't get over my suspicion that he's in the closet.
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I made one of those Richard Spencer videos.
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I can't get over my suspicion that he's in the closet.
Yeah most of them probably are.
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Zed-Juron
Yeah most of them probably are.
Nick Fuentes there's no question.
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BubsyFanboy 9/18/2022 8:23 AM
https://fxtwitter.com/atrupar/status/1571308887248179200?s=46&t=ZQXl9YunlttnL6TIibT1zg That salute sure doesn't remind us of anything. Nope. Nothing at all. What's that? Some Austrian painter who started wars? Never heard of him. (edited)
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“The danger of a Trumpist coup is far from over. As long as we have a significant number of Americans who don’t accept principles of democracy and the rule of law, our democracy remains in jeopardy.” — Rosa Brooks, Georgetown law professor https://t.co/IeKXL6wYPr
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Can anyone explain why #MAGACommunism is trending on Twitter?
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Wait what?
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If you are unironically using a hashtag like #MAGAcommunism, you may be clinically braindead. MAGA is an avowed anti-communist movement headed by a billionaire slumlord who was mentored by Roy Cohn, assistant to Joe McCarthy (yes, THAT Joe McCarthy, as in McCarthyism).
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9:26 PM
Hopefully that fades and never returns.
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9:29 PM
I'm calling it harmful or spammy
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Too bad there is not a choice "brain meltingly stupid"
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Makes sense😊
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Love the fake Norman Rockwell touch.
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Can anyone explain why #MAGACommunism is trending on Twitter?
BubsyFanboy 9/19/2022 2:49 AM
No idea, tbh
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I got a 3 day ban on Reddit for commenting that Sedition is a capital crime in the US, for which there's no statute of limitations, ergo we can hunt them like Nazis.. This was on a post about how the case law is piling up precedent that they were engaged in organized sedition, at least at the highest levels. (edited)
9:58 AM
Perhaps this public reminder could be reworked to avoid any misinterpretation that would trip a policy violation, and repeated to great effect?
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I got a 3 day ban on Reddit for commenting that Sedition is a capital crime in the US, for which there's no statute of limitations, ergo we can hunt them like Nazis.. This was on a post about how the case law is piling up precedent that they were engaged in organized sedition, at least at the highest levels. (edited)
BubsyFanboy 9/19/2022 10:29 AM
Well, at least it's a lot less petty then when I was suspended off Reddit
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I just appealed the ban. I'm not mad, actually kinda excited, because if the neonazis feel the need to defend a point, we should promote it, and knowing is golden.
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I think the word "Treason" is a very powerful word right now, and I urge everyone to bring more light. Treason, like murder, is a capital offense in USA, meaning there is no 7-year statute of limitations to prevent old crimes from being prosecuted, and no restrictions are on the punishments a court can hand down, including death penalty and life without parole.
11:07 AM
That means 20 years from now, we can vote in a prosecutor, and geriatric criminals who thought they had escaped may be in jeopardy again. There is no salvation except double jeopardy if they face charges and a court under-punishes them.
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BubsyFanboy 9/19/2022 11:31 AM
The Washington Post surveyed candidates in the most competitive races across the country and found only seven who said they would accept the outcomes of their races.
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BubsyFanboy 9/19/2022 11:34 AM
But that's how he won the first time - his body language, his speeches, his outbursts. He was already a meme before his 2015 debut and he basically did everything to remain one during his campaigns. Only difference in 2020 was Trump proved himself worse than the people before him and he completely mismanaged the COVID pandemic.
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BubsyFanboy 9/19/2022 6:05 PM
You've probably seen this picture already, but in case some still hadn't: (edited)
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AldotheApache 9/20/2022 12:16 AM
The hard right is grooming the military and law enforcement for insurrection.
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The info on the sheriffs in particularly interesting…
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LessthanLoneWolf 9/20/2022 2:37 AM
That’s going to be a big reason why we might lose; having police and military on their side is a big weight to tip the scales in their favor. Good to try to prevent it in the first place, also a good idea to plan for if we lose
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HLMenckenFan 9/20/2022 9:51 AM
Newsmax's Greg Kelly: "I mean, take Trayvon Martin. He wasn't an innocent little kid. He wasn't. He was 17 years old. He was a bit of a gangbanger"
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BubsyFanboy 9/20/2022 11:14 AM
Has there been a single day when the post-Reagan GOP wasn't absolutely gross?
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HLMenckenFan 9/20/2022 11:22 AM
No
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BubsyFanboy 9/20/2022 12:37 PM
https://roskomsvoboda.org/post/extremism-za-buty-blog/ First criminal persecution in Russia for Instagram.
Kuntsev inter-district prosecutor's office suspected an 18-year-old fashion blogger Veronika Loginova of "inducing, recruiting or otherwise involving a person in the activities of an extremist organization" because, according to prosecutors, she "committed actions to attract users on the social networks Facebook and Instagram". The prosecutor's office stated that the blogger "posted materials there, including advertising", and this can be considered as a form of participation in the activities of an extremist organization. Sarkis Darbinyan, head of RoskomSvoboda's legal practice, said this is the first time that a Russian citizen has been prosecuted for using Instagram. "This is certainly not at all what the prosecutors promised when they recognized Instagram and Facebook as extremist, when the public stated that the end users would not be affected by this decision. And now it turns out that it will. After all, the prosecutor warns that for recruiting the blogger faces from 4 to 8 years in prison under Part 1.1 of Article 282.2 of the Criminal Code. The direct participation in the activities of such an organization could bring another two to six years in prison, under Article 282.2 part 2 of the Criminal Code. That is, according to the prosecutor's logic, any "subscribe to me on Instagram" now faces up to 14 years in prison!"
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thechromatograph3r 9/20/2022 2:04 PM
Investigate DeathSentence’s ties to Russia.
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HLMenckenFan 9/20/2022 2:06 PM
Hitler was a leftist.
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Never mind
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thechromatograph3r 9/20/2022 2:09 PM
He only said “louder,” not “smarter” lol
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Click to see attachment 🖼️
HLMenckenFan 9/20/2022 2:10 PM
r/Desantisthreatensusa
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He only said “louder,” not “smarter” lol
HLMenckenFan 9/20/2022 2:26 PM
Lol
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thechromatograph3r 9/20/2022 7:49 PM
Coinciding with Banned Books Week 2022, PEN America has issued an alarming new report, which found that more than 2,500 book bans were issued in some 140 school districts in 32 states during the 2021-22 school year.
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thechromatograph3r 9/20/2022 7:58 PM
NEW: A GOP county official in Georgia & operatives working w/ Trump attorney Sidney Powell spent hours inside restricted area of local elections office on day voting systems there were breached, per surveillance video obtained by CNN. Latest w/ @JMOCNN https://t.co/6YXatbDrc3
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Video reveals for first time what happened inside Coffee County, GA elections office on Jan. 7, 2021. Among those seen: Cathy Latham, who is under criminal investigation for posing as a fake Trump elector. https://t.co/6YXatbCTmv
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thechromatograph3r 9/21/2022 11:40 AM
LAWSUIT FILED
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NY AG Letitia James just announced
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BREAKING - Trump sued by New York attorney general - Reuters News
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(Reuters) - Donald Trump was sued for fraud on Wednesday by New York state's attorney general, who for more than three years has been conducting a civil investigation into the former U.S. president's business practices, court records showed.
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“Actions have consequences. We're seeking to: ➡️Make Trump pay $250 million. ➡️Ban the Trumps from running NY businesses for good. ➡️Ban Trump and Trump Org from buying commercial real estate in NY for 5 yrs. ➡️We're making a criminal referral to the U.S. Dept of Justice.”
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@thechromatograph3r just advanced to level 1!
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good
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https://youtu.be/y9WiDNp8-YE <-- if you're tired of the Queen's funeral, and ready to move on, this YouTuber has some of the BEST deadpan since Norm McDonald.
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@1uc2 just advanced to level 1!
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thechromatograph3r 9/21/2022 4:03 PM
The monarchy really doesn’t have any power, though.
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The fear was that the queen allowed for the expansion of parliamentary power during her reign
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@Zed-Juron just advanced to level 1!
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But that Charles may try and claw that back and be more that a figure head
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HLMenckenFan 9/22/2022 10:41 AM
John Gibbs, the GOP nominee for a House seat in Michigan, said women should take care of children, and leave governing and voting to men.
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thechromatograph3r 9/22/2022 12:29 PM
Alex Jones is testifying live right now
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are you sure he's not rambling?
1:54 PM
Moments are saying that because she removed the parts of the order that were stayed. Trump can no longer appeal to scotus.
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Moments are saying that because she removed the parts of the order that were stayed. Trump can no longer appeal to scotus.
thechromatograph3r 9/22/2022 4:20 PM
Huh?
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holy fuck
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Huh?
Wow missed that typo
4:24 PM
Meant comments
4:24 PM
Lmao
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did the Trump team just cripple his chance to use the SCOTUS?
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did the Trump team just cripple his chance to use the SCOTUS?
Judge cannon may have
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But no, not his team of lawyers
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4:26 PM
in a attempt to please King Trump, she might have fucking disarmed him instead.
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Wow missed that typo
thechromatograph3r 9/22/2022 4:27 PM
No, no. I figured that. I meant how does that legally work?
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OH SHIT
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Pretty much what heinz said, but I'm have no idea on the legal technicalities, or what their next steps are. Lawyer tube will hopefully videos explaining the situation/ trumps next options legally
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welp time to refresh Legal Eagle til my fingers bleed
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His video like a month ago when he had to re record the ending like 3 times was hilarious
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thechromatograph3r 9/22/2022 4:38 PM
Judge Bellis, overseeing the Alex Jones case, before adjourning court today, chastised Jones AND his lawyer for their political circus: "I will have a ZERO tolerance policy from now on, with counsel and Mr. Jones. So, you can expect a contempt hearing if you step out of line."
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“TRUMP RULING BOOMERANGS ON MYPILLOW BOSS: A Trump-appointed federal judge just denied a TRO for Mike Lindell to get his phone back after it was seized by FBI at Hardee's. Judge cites....wait for it.....Trump docs ruling from 11th Circuit last night. Doc: https://t.co/zw4CyplxfP”
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Deutsche Bank is apparently getting interviewed/investigated by the DOJ too apparently
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thechromatograph3r 9/22/2022 4:51 PM
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thechromatograph3r 9/22/2022 7:01 PM
All hell has broken loose in the Alex Jones defamation trial — with Judge Barbara Bellis, lawyers, and Jones all shouting at each other. Sandy Hook lawyer: "These are real people, you know that, Mr. Jones?" Jones: "Just like all the Iraqis you liberals killed and love."
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Once again, Jones is looking at getting the defamation book at him at this rate
7:05 PM
also Iraq was a republican government fuck up
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What the actual fuck is going on in that court room
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Hell
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What the actual fuck is going on in that court room
No idea
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MisterStompy 9/22/2022 11:12 PM
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Wait what??
11:14 PM
You serious??
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MisterStompy 9/22/2022 11:15 PM
I mean there hasn't been a massacre in Saqez so
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“We got good news In Saqqez, the #Artesh stood in front of the Sepah and helped the people. Saqez has become a war zone, the internet is cut off, but the news is valid that the #Artesh stood by the people against the Sepah and said that they will not kill people” #Mahsa_Amini
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so far apparently there's only been some sporadic gunfire from the Artesh as a way of trying to get the IRG to fuck off
11:17 PM
There is a report that in the city of Saqez Iranian army (Artesh) started shooting at the Yegan Vijeh (special forces of regime police force) to stop them from shooting protesters. Apparently it was a temporary warning not a lethal engagement between military and police
11:18 PM
it doesn't surprise me that Iran has more than one ground army, Nazis did it, too
11:18 PM
idk what the chances are of it turning into full blown civil war though, supposedly the Artesh don't have as much ammunition as the IRG
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That can easily escalate though
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MisterStompy 9/22/2022 11:19 PM
I mean yeah there have been police stations taken over by protesters, which means protestors have guns
11:20 PM
combine that with the army and it evens out the odds a little
11:21 PM
either way Artesh and IRG apparently have a history of not liking each other all that much, they get into unarmed scuffles a lot after parades ig
11:24 PM
as far as numbers go, there are more guys in the Artesh than the IRG, but it looks like most of the cops are working with the IRG
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I think the IRG ARE the cops
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I think the IRG ARE the cops
MisterStompy 9/22/2022 11:28 PM
nah it's more like a Wehrmacht and Schutzstaffel situation. The Artesh are the regular army proper and the IRG are the official armed wing of the Mullah or whatever he is these days
11:29 PM
I'm not sure if all Iranian cops count as Morality Police or not
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Idk either. But the fact that the army is now getting involved means things might escalate even further
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MisterStompy 9/22/2022 11:31 PM
the minute there's a single protracted firefight between the two, it's beyond rolling back
11:31 PM
once it gets to that point it's goofy time
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Plus, we don't know the full loyalties of both organizations. Some military units might be loyal to the government and some IRG units might be friendly to the protestors
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MisterStompy 9/22/2022 11:32 PM
well I think another big factor is that the organizations really don't like each other
11:33 PM
like regardless of how an individual Artesh dude feels about women's rights, his hatred for the IRG may very well override it
11:34 PM
It's a situation where the Artesh think the IRG are all posers and not real soldiers (which probably has a lot of truth to it) and the IRG think the Artesh aren't redpilled enough or whatever
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So we might see the whole military side with the protestors?
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MisterStompy 9/22/2022 11:34 PM
if it turns into a civil war I wouldn't be surprised if a significant amount of the military sides with protestors, yes
11:34 PM
it's not the first time something like this has happened, Romania is the most notable example
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That probably would be catastrophic for Iran, no matter who wins. Their terrain is it's biggest advantage in the case of an invasion, but fighting a civil war in those conditions?
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MisterStompy 9/22/2022 11:37 PM
idk about foreign involvement, before Ukraine the Russians might have showed up seeing as Iran was iirc thinking about joining the CSTO
11:37 PM
maybe China could get involved but on whose side?
11:38 PM
Russia would have sided with the government but China I think knows that siding with the protestors would make them seem cool
11:38 PM
and I mean yeah, living under Chinese rule is better than living under the Ayotollah
11:38 PM
Tankies would blow a fucking gasket if that happened though, lol
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If you're not a Muslim in Xinjiang though
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MisterStompy 9/22/2022 11:39 PM
Yeah see that's the thing
11:39 PM
Maybe Israel might do something, they've gotten involved in Iranian stuff a few times in the past
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True. Who knows how this will turn out, and what might cause the match and fuel to be thrown onto the kindling, if the government doesn't re-assert control in time.
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MisterStompy 9/22/2022 11:41 PM
I'd say maybe the CIA should get involved but they're part of the reason we're in this shitshow
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True. I'm not sure if it's a good idea or not to get involved this time, when we're already involved indirectly in Ukraine
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MisterStompy 9/22/2022 11:43 PM
Looks like Ukraine took another city
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Which one now?
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BubsyFanboy 9/23/2022 10:57 AM
White nationalist Nick Fuentes, failed GOP candidate Laura Loomer and Ali Alexander of Stop the Steal all on board
10:58 AM
That's a strategy I hope all of the far-right adopts. :-)
10:58 AM
Months after Joe Biden's 2020 victory over Donald Trump in Michigan had been certified, and confirmed by audits and voting reviews, a clerk in rural Barry County received an unusual and confusing request from Matthew DePerno, an attorney in Kalamazoo.
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thechromatograph3r 9/23/2022 2:32 PM
The Secret Service was tracking at least one neo-Nazi group and other individuals who planned to engage in violence during the January 6th insurrection.
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BubsyFanboy 9/23/2022 3:33 PM
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BubsyFanboy 9/23/2022 4:11 PM
At least 50 people have been killed so far with widespread arrests of protesters and civil rights activists also intensifying.
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HLMenckenFan 9/23/2022 7:29 PM
With Giorgia Meloni’s party leading in polls ahead of Sunday’s election, the Italian far right is edging closer to power.
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....God damnit Italy not again
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President Joe Biden vowed that Democrats will codify the right to an abortion into law if two more are elected to the U.S. Senate in the midterm elections.
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BubsyFanboy 9/24/2022 6:47 AM
Rumors are swirling across the internet of a military coup in China and that Xi Jinping is under arrest after CCP seniors removed him as head of the PLA. Is the massive cancellation of flights in China just a military exercise, or is there something more to it? 🧐
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BubsyFanboy 9/24/2022 6:56 AM
⚡️ Protesters in Iran took over all streets of the capital, and the security forces lost control of the city. 👉 Follow @Flash_news_ua
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LessthanLoneWolf 9/24/2022 6:58 AM
Don’t make me excited damnit!
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Xi suffering a coup can go potentially bad but Iranian protestors are havin' a good day
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BubsyFanboy 9/24/2022 8:31 AM
A Chinese court sentenced a former top security official to life in prison, completing a crackdown on the “political clique” he led just weeks before a crucial Communist Party reshuffle.
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Xi consolidating power
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....God damnit Italy not again
TheAnonymousDew 9/24/2022 12:59 PM
People really need to learn from history
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BubsyFanboy 9/24/2022 1:03 PM
European railways have been given until the end of this year to come up with a ticketing system that is accessible to all via an app, European Commission Executive Vice-President Frans Timmermans has said in a Dutch radio interview with BNR. “If they don’t, we will enforce it legally. I’m sick of it”, he stressed.  Timmermans’ […]
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HLMenckenFan 9/24/2022 9:58 PM
The former Donald Trump advisor has been a supporter of the Meloni and her far-right Brothers of Italy party for several years.
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BubsyFanboy 9/25/2022 3:26 PM
These past 2 days were crazy in Poland: -Macierewicz receiving the Order of the White Eagle (top honor given by the president) -Tusk concretely signaling a unitary start to elections for KO -Gowin pretending he was always with the opposition despite being part of government + opposition rejecting him -The first potential major signs of impending blackouts in Poland
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Mind explaining context for a American?
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Mind explaining context for a American?
BubsyFanboy 9/25/2022 4:51 PM
Macierewicz got into heat recently for propagating conspiracy theories about the 2010 Smoleńsk plane crash, some of which designed to attack the opposing PO/KO camp. Donald Tusk is the main leading figure of KO and was formerly Poland's Prime Minister, later the President of the European Council and currently the president of the European People's Party. Jarosław Gowin is the leader of his Porozumienie party, which currently polls at around 0-1% (nowhere near enough to pass the 5% electoral threshold to enter Congress/Sejm without putting their politicians on foreign lists). His party used to reside with PiS and SP, co-comprising the United Right (ZP) government.
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Ok so I think I kinda get it? But Porozumienie party left or right leaning?
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Macierewicz sounds like Polish Alex Jones fucked with Rush Limbaugh Can't say much on Tusk because I lack context Gowin sounds like a tool Blackouts are definitely not a good sign
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A win would give Italy its most right-wing government since World War Two. Giorgia Meloni plays down her party's post-fascist roots and has pledged to support Western policy on Ukraine and to avoid undue economic risks.
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who's about to be fucked by a very pissed off EU
12:42 AM
Plus, considering Italy's government's cycle of incompetence, there's a real chance she can't do shit
12:43 AM
also France (who share a border with Italy) is already about to take all their tourist money
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My biggest problem with the coverage of it is that most outlets are afraid to use the word fascist to describe a fascist
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Germany is already making plans if their neighbors do shit like Italy (cause in point, a pants browning increase of military spending % not seen since pre-world wars. Both of them)
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fair
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Germany is already making plans if their neighbors do shit like Italy (cause in point, a pants browning increase of military spending % not seen since pre-world wars. Both of them)
Which is a good thing, imo, but still scary
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oh definitely, but as the net already made jokes on: Somewhere, a Pole is nervously sweating
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The more consequences for a fascist government, the better imo. But as of right now they may be in charge, but they're also in a coalition government with a lot of more left-leaning (in regards to their party) parties, which will hopefully keep their influence in check until the next election (edited)
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This is true too
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Don't count on it though
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but more seriously, as much as I despise Trump, I do concede he had a point that Nato allies need to actually invest in some military might, even if he plan was to force the US out of Nato
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his*
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fuck I need to sleep
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Yeah. As much as I dislike the idea of more military power in the world, I dislike the idea of a decades long war on fascism more. It's best to be able to end a potential war quickly than let it last.
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That said, as a US citizen, I really wish at times a sliver of that military budget can go to free healthcare. plz It help the military long term
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Yeah. As much as I dislike the idea of more military power in the world, I dislike the idea of a decades long war on fascism more. It's best to be able to end a potential war quickly than let it last.
You. You get it
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It really would, because the military wouldn't be spending as much on treatment if there was national preventative hc
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That, and, prob a controversial opinion, I do think a required set year service akin S. Korea's military policy would help a lot in various health issues here
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provided, It be more akin to national guard training but still
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admittedly, I couldn't do it if it were the case (bad eyesight and disability relating to a anxiety disorder)
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but I wouldn't be against it
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admittedly, I couldn't do it if it were the case (bad eyesight and disability relating to a anxiety disorder)
Neither could I for the same reason
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I think maybe a 1 or 2 year draft would be a good idea if it were for preservation of the US as a whole. Something like filling roles in national parks or the civilian conservation corps to fulfil their service
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I agree
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The thing I fear if it were a military conscription would be the continuation of a hyper-militaristic outlook in american society
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I think maybe a 1 or 2 year draft would be a good idea if it were for preservation of the US as a whole. Something like filling roles in national parks or the civilian conservation corps to fulfil their service
ye! Like that! Not necessarily going to war, but def basic army/nat guard style training for basic emergency draft stuff. Also would probably decrease would be deserters ala Vietnam.
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The thing I fear if it were a military conscription would be the continuation of a hyper-militaristic outlook in american society
Normally I would agree...but on the flip side, it would also force a sense of "equality" in that everyone regardless of Class (ideally) would understand the stakes at hand, even for military. And, arguably, lay groundwork for preventing fash takeovers. Statistically, higher up in the military tends to be left leaning.
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its the grunts who tend to be right wing
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That's fair
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Ok so I think I kinda get it? But Porozumienie party left or right leaning?
BubsyFanboy 9/26/2022 3:43 AM
Right-leaning. They used to be in the coalition with PiS
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Macierewicz sounds like Polish Alex Jones fucked with Rush Limbaugh Can't say much on Tusk because I lack context Gowin sounds like a tool Blackouts are definitely not a good sign
BubsyFanboy 9/26/2022 3:46 AM
And to a degree, he is. Except his conspiracy theories are far more seriously treated and put the opposition at stake. Aight. And he is. Okay, I just found out the warning of "increased risk status" doesn't automatically mean blackouts, but the fact that this stuff is happening now and not in winter is indeed not a good sign. Pray the EU bails us out with energy or our coal plants won't get the country through winter.
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https://fxtwitter.com/LukaszBok/status/1574016534137167873 Behold the far-right "Stop Ukrainizing Poland" protest in all its crowdless glory!
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Ah yes. A country about to get a bad time
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BubsyFanboy 9/26/2022 6:34 AM
At least 14 killed, 21 injured in Russia school shooting, officials say; suspect was wearing a Nazi swastika
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Taco Avenger 9/26/2022 11:07 AM
Miss Olini wins big in Italy
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RedMoonWarrior 9/26/2022 11:28 AM
Italy, choosing the wrong side since 1922
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MisterStompy 9/26/2022 1:47 PM
For the context of the Italian election, firstly the coalition is far from united on most issues, and seecondly it is the direct result of apathy and low voter turnout
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Italy's rightist alliance looks sure to win a parliamentary majority but its three main parties' differences could hobble their administration.
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Also the average lifespan of a parilamentary government in Italy is like two years
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Which means Fash gov is still pretty fucked
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Which at least minimizes the damage
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The American Right Is Gaga for Giorgia Meloni, Italy’s Next Prime Minister – Rolling Stone https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/giorgia-meloni-marjorie-taylor-greene-ted-cruz-italian-election-1234600266/ bad news everyone, fascist italy is back.
The leader of a nationalist party with neo-fascist roots has earned the admiration — and lustful gaze — of the greater MAGA-verse
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Fascist italy surrounded by very pissed non-fascist neighbors
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also
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Ken Patton (piece of shit Texas AG who's trying to make abortion illegal in Texas) just fled when served a subpoena
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money is he's fleeing the state
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fascism does not stand a chance over all in europe.
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but north america it has more influence.
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Germany is your fucking neighbor
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germany will not be happy
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Germany who fully know the cost of fascism
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they might get the EU to withold shit
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like they are doing with poland and hungary
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cutting them out of things.
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Germany who fully know the cost of fascism
yeah
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and im sure the countries the italians conquered in thr second world war arent quite happy either.
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That....also, as mentioned, Germans are....very much not feeling patience for anything vaguely fascist-sympathies rn
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and Germany has investing like crazy in its military rn.....
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just pointing that out if they get ideas
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just pointing that out if they get ideas
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italy is going nowhere.
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thechromatograph3r 9/27/2022 11:23 AM
What the fuck:
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University of Idaho employees were warned Friday that they could be charged with a felony for talking about abortion, because of the state’s new abortion law. They were also told they could no longer provide birth control. Not just Plan B, but regular birth control.
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BubsyFanboy 9/27/2022 12:31 PM
Wait, universities provide birth control?
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Yup, I'd wager a lot of what they do revolves around contraception and testing for STIs and STDs
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Super nice to get done it done quickly rather than waiting for a GP appointment who may be out of state anyway
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If I was the professors, I'd be looking into investing a decently sized car and the next state gov meeting...
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just pointing out, take advantage of attempts to punish anti-fasc by casually using their own laws against them
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especially laws involving cars
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MisterStompy 9/27/2022 6:39 PM
The Senate Rules Committee votes 14-1 to approve reforms to the Electoral Count Act, which would help prevent another effort to overturn the election results. Ted Cruz (R) was the only NO vote.
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MisterStompy 9/27/2022 6:40 PM
my state is such a shithole
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Wait, universities provide birth control?
Mine does. I live in Alabama. They mainly do because they're one of the best medical schools in the world. Also because if the state's shit sex ed laws.
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Ironically there is a chance this could backfire against Republicans in Texas. Spectacularly. Don't fuck with silicone valley's money.
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thechromatograph3r 9/29/2022 9:05 AM
Just a reminder that none of this ongoing Special Master drama is delaying the DOJ’s Trump case. The DOJ now has access to the classified documents and has resumed working on them. The Special Master is now relegated to the other seized evidence, which is essentially irrelevant.
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fuck didn't the SM actually side with the DOJ and openly state they had the right to claim the classified documents?
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So Judge Cannon is playing a game of How to piss off the FBI/CIA
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Judge Aileen Cannon has just ruled on a motion that the Justice Department says is necessary to protect an FBI agent from potential "threats and harassment." The post JUST IN: Trump-Appointed Judge Cannon Grants Request Sealing Affadavit to Protect FBI Agent From ‘Threats and Harassment’ first appeared on Mediaite.
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This woman is trying to speed run gettin' snatched by agents I swear to god
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Not that bit. Judge Cannon also basically said it was was ok for Trump to accuse the FBI of planting evidence and the right to not to comply with deadlines involving Trump turning in shit as proof over the whole classified documents thing. It's a lotta shit she ruled on but those two are definitely the source of anger
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Not that bit. Judge Cannon also basically said it was was ok for Trump to accuse the FBI of planting evidence and the right to not to comply with deadlines involving Trump turning in shit as proof over the whole classified documents thing. It's a lotta shit she ruled on but those two are definitely the source of anger
thechromatograph3r 9/30/2022 12:56 AM
It puts Trump on record at least
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They also had a President who pretty much was willing to actively fuck over his opponents with glee too and literally threatened the Supreme court
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that's not a hyperbole
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tbh probably but at that same time, FDR had Hoover heading the FBI at the time....and Hoover has done some legally questionable shit
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yup
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plus people need to remember: Teddy was FDR's cousin
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they knew each other
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Teddy is famous for just not taking a shit from anyone
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It wouldn't surprise me if any mildly unscrupulous tactics against one's political opponent FDR used at least partially came from Teddy
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I still think Hoover probably blackmailed the Lochner court into behaving as well as the open threat of expanding the court
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probably
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thechromatograph3r 9/30/2022 3:20 PM
Federal officials are offering state and local election officials training to "safely de-escalate" confrontations with voters that could turn violent ahead of November's midterm elections, according to an email to election workers obtained by CNN.
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BubsyFanboy 9/30/2022 5:12 PM
#BREAKING Ali Mousavi, the IRGC Intelligence chief in Iran's Sistan and Baluchestan province, has been shot dead in the southeastern city of Zahedan, IRGC-affiliated Tasnim news confirmed. There were violent clashes today in Zahedan, where dozens were reportedly killed & wounded.
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A Michigan poll worker has been charged after a witness saw him inserting a USB drive into an electronic poll book after the Aug. 2 statewide primary, the Detroit Free Press reports. James Holkeboer, an election inspector at the Gaines Township 8th Precinct, has been charged with falsifying records ...
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Private Prison warden & his brother murder migrants on the border, charged with manslaughter. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/michael-sheppard-mark-sheppard-arrested-2-migrants-shot-texas-near-mexico-border/
One brother opened fire on a group of migrants getting water, killing a man and wounding a woman, according to court documents.
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MisterStompy 10/1/2022 10:23 AM
Libertarian National Party Twitter account was hacked is now being used to shill crypto lmao
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*makes worlds smallest violin gesture
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really couldn't have happened to a nicer group of people
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It wouldn't surprise me if any mildly unscrupulous tactics against one's political opponent FDR used at least partially came from Teddy
or huey long, because both were populist governers compeating for national attention.
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thechromatograph3r 10/2/2022 10:56 AM
Reminder to my fellow poll workers: if you see anybody—voters, observers, LEOs, or even BOE officials (before being handed off to them at the end of the night)—tampering with election materials or equipment, you report that shit ASAP.
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Black Magic 10/2/2022 2:59 PM
Record.
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Observe and report
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Stop the count!
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Im not informed about whats going on, id like to learn more though
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Bolsonaro is a trumpesque candidate. Covid denier all of that. Has hinted at not leaving office if he loses however.
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It's 70% counted, so hoping it gets better for Lula from here. A leftist is better than a trumpian that's for sure
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It seems like the part of the country that would vote for bolsonaro are done counting. While leftist strong holds are not.
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Hopefully.
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Sheesh, fingers crossed then. thank you for the summary
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Sheesh, fingers crossed then. thank you for the summary
yeah
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That's extremely concerning if you're right
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Black Magic 10/3/2022 12:31 AM
Ukraine is 2 miles from the Kharkov dam. It’s capture is game over for Russia west of the river
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Good news is all trends point to Russia just being straight fucked.
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Good news is all trends point to Russia just being straight fucked.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 10/3/2022 12:33 AM
I'm really hoping that doesn't lead to Putin breaking out the nukes.
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Black Magic 10/3/2022 12:34 AM
Bad news is there’s nothing left in his tool box except the nukes and Putin just gave a 37 minute speech that is, I fuck you not, a word for word Facebook rant from your uncle that has opinions about trans people.
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The nukes, if used, will make everything complicated
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Good news is all trends point to Russia just being straight fucked.
Glad about that. Starting to get concerned with Congress and Brazil
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Black Magic 10/3/2022 12:45 AM
October is going to be wild.
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Oh yea, no doubt there
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Black Magic 10/3/2022 12:48 AM
I am surprised Desantis hasn’t resorted to claiming fraud yet.
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Give it time and I guarantee you he'll start
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Black Magic 10/3/2022 1:01 AM
Well my prediction is that we’ll see a nuke detonation in Siberia as a demonstration. That will be aimed at really testing the nerve of the west.
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We'll see
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Black Magic 10/3/2022 1:08 AM
I guess we will
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I doubt the collective west is willing to goto war for Ukraine; but they will be willing to reject nuclear blackmail
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Everyone understands if you let it happen once, there’ll be no end to it.
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Agreed
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how is the brazilian election going?
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Bolsonaro and Lula are in a run off at the end of the month neither got 50% of the vote. Lula got 48% so he came super close (edited)
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Bolsonaro and Lula are in a run off at the end of the month neither got 50% of the vote. Lula got 48% so he came super close (edited)
i hope lula wins, where will the votes from the other candidates go? (edited)
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I don't know unfortunately. I hope they go for lula as well.
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i think most of the votes will go to him
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from those who were eliminated
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but it will be closs
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because while lula is massivly popular
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bolsonaro has a massive and highly radicalized base of support, like trump did.
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thechromatograph3r 10/3/2022 5:47 PM
WASHINGTON (AP) — Federal officials are warning ahead of the November elections that Russia is working to amplify doubts about the integrity of U.S. elections while China is interested in undermining American politicians it perceives as threats to Beijing’s interests.
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Black Magic 10/3/2022 6:04 PM
American right wing is amazingly inline with Putin. They just straight up repeat Putin on fox.
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Rand Paul didn’t show up to defend his big government ban on abortion, but my position is clear. I will always defend your rights. We must codify Roe.
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Black Magic 10/4/2022 5:16 AM
In a dark BBC and angry mood, brings out some really angry contemplations. All of which are depressingly pointless
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“Here it is: Herschel Walker got a girlfriend pregnant in 2009, urged her to get an abortion, and then reimbursed her for the procedure. Herschel Walker also says there should be no exceptions for abortion. (Except for himself I guess.) https://t.co/ryvGywheAX”
The woman has receipts—and a “get well” card she says the football star, now a Senate candidate, sent her.
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WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court says it won't review the conviction of former coal CEO Don Blankenship, who was found guilty of conspiring to violate safety standards at West Virginia’s Upper Big Branch mine before the 2010 explosion that killed 29 men .
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BubsyFanboy 10/4/2022 12:15 PM
Y'all know the media bias charts, right?
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The stuff that displays every nationwide news network and compares them
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This is one of the more popular charts
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As it turns out, many other countries also have something like that
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So in case you were wondering how polish media looks, this is more or less how.
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It's pretty embarrassing that even with lowered standards (see lifted CNN and Fox News) we still have a lot of outright propaganda.
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And also that we have no media besides DGP in the blue box.
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This is one of the more popular charts
thechromatograph3r 10/4/2022 12:35 PM
Finally. One with decent dpi
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BubsyFanboy 10/4/2022 1:30 PM
You sure AP and Reuters are right-wing?
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I checked their website and I really couldn't find any bias.
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BubsyFanboy 10/4/2022 1:33 PM
Funny that you say that. Yesterday some right-winger kept trying to argue with me that NPR was left-wing.
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BubsyFanboy 10/4/2022 1:36 PM
Not by a lot, mind you. I still see more objectivity there than in most polish sites, at least on their frontpage.
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BubsyFanboy 10/4/2022 1:41 PM
Did you really say the words out loud?
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BubsyFanboy 10/4/2022 1:43 PM
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/04/politics/trump-violent-rhetoric-analysis/index.html At least they're still publishing articles like this though.
The lesson of January 6, 2021, is that when extremism, conspiracies and incitement reach a boiling point, they seek an outlet.
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Can't imagine that happening with TVP, unless Trump suddenly became enemies with the polish government.
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BubsyFanboy 10/4/2022 1:53 PM
Always irritates me when someone butchers English more than when someone butchers Polish
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Y'all know the media bias charts, right?
BubsyFanboy 10/4/2022 2:08 PM
(start of media bias convo)
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im very proud of my fascist elements, test results.
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only scored notably in corporatism
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but thats because i believe in economic regulation
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and am opposed too the free market.
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thechromatograph3r 10/4/2022 3:11 PM
What in the actual fucking fuck?
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Florida female student athletes have to report their menstrual history to play: When they got their first period, when they had their last one, etc. A third party has access to that info, and parents and doctors are raising red flags https://t.co/172JNDanBL @katikokal
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thechromatograph3r 10/4/2022 3:12 PM
Beyond dystopian
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 10/4/2022 3:12 PM
And beyond disgusting.
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Remind me to never live in Florida ever.
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im very proud of my fascist elements, test results.
are any of these too high?
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MisterStompy 10/4/2022 5:00 PM
A secretive Neo-Nazi Black Metal concert called 'Rise of the Black Sun' was reportedly held in East L.A. on Saturday night, featuring band members with anti-Semitic shirts and band names like the 'Blue Eyed Devils.' L.A. TACO received multiple reports of a truck fire that occurred in front of the venue located at 3612 E 1st Street, allegedly sta...
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See do shit like this, don't burn down thrift stores
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MisterStompy 10/4/2022 5:49 PM
Justice Jackson tells the Alabama solicitor general that the Framers of the 14th Amendment did NOT intend it to be “race neutral or race blind,” so taking race into account to protect minority voting rights is perfectly constitutional. Progressive originalism at work.
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Black Magic 10/5/2022 12:54 AM
Pentagon,which has been a shockingly open and reliable source on the ocasions it choses to say anything publicly; Says Russia isn’t currently moving its nuclear weapons, and they aren’t currently in position.
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There’s alot of movement we’d expect to see if Russia was preparing for nuclear exchange.
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And according to the pentagon, it isn’t happening.
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So yet another bluff
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thechromatograph3r 10/5/2022 8:04 AM
It can be done
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thechromatograph3r 10/5/2022 8:05 AM
That can be used both ways, though
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NEW 🧵: A new mailing from Republican @TomWeilerMN in #MN03 says, “Let’s Turn the Ship Around and Save America!” But the ship pictured that Weiler wants to turn “around and save America” is the Moskva, a Russian guided missile cruiser sunk during the invasion of Ukraine.
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BubsyFanboy 10/5/2022 11:00 AM
FIFA is organizing a world cup there
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FIFA is organizing a world cup there
AarborneDivision 10/5/2022 1:13 PM
Most of these are my favorite activities though
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A former Tennessee state trooper has gone missing after he was sentenced for a misdemeanor assault conviction on a charge that he pulled the face mask off a protester during the COVID-19 pandemic in August 2020
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FIFA is organizing a world cup there
TheAnonymousDew 10/5/2022 9:18 PM
Boycotting it anyway
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TheAnonymousDew 10/5/2022 9:52 PM
We need Constitutional Amendments codifying the right to medical privacy and freedom of travel
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MisterStompy 10/5/2022 11:40 PM
A day after Elon Musk announced his intention to buy Twitter after all and avert a trial, a private equity firm set to finance part of the deal has reportedly backed out.
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We need Constitutional Amendments codifying the right to medical privacy and freedom of travel
thechromatograph3r 10/5/2022 11:45 PM
And the right to vote. And these amendments need to be strongly worded, and apply to the government as a whole, not just Congress.
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And the right to vote. And these amendments need to be strongly worded, and apply to the government as a whole, not just Congress.
TheAnonymousDew 10/6/2022 1:09 AM
Absolutely
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BubsyFanboy 10/6/2022 7:48 AM
https://www-tokfm-pl.translate.goog/Tokfm/7,103085,28985247,nie-chca-chodzic-na-religie-pelnoletni-uczniowie-decyduja-sami.html?_x_tr_sl=pl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pl&_x_tr_pto=wapp Entire classes are signing out of religion. Adults are signing off, the underage are pressuring parents to do so. However, this will be the final year when this is possible, as starting in the 2023/2024 school year, the Ministry of Education & Science is about to introduce mandatory religion and ethics classes. Anti-clerical organizations believe this could results in mandatory religion for most people, as there is a shortage of teachers in the workforce and they believe schools may substitute ethics teachers with priests.
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thechromatograph3r 10/6/2022 10:45 AM
Wow.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 10/6/2022 11:00 AM
The GOP is salivating reading this.
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MisterStompy 10/6/2022 3:25 PM
MAJOR: Biden to pardon those convicted of civil possession of marijuana under federal law. https://t.co/dm05tNKOuU
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LessthanLoneWolf 10/6/2022 3:41 PM
Fucking good!
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thechromatograph3r 10/6/2022 4:28 PM
Considering the overwhelming majority of marijuana offenses are on the state level, this is largely symbolic
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BubsyFanboy 10/6/2022 4:45 PM
Oh, hey - yet another parallel between Poland and USA.
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TheAnonymousDew 10/6/2022 7:19 PM
As the Democratic Party continues to refuse to abandon their failed neoliberal policies, they will continue to falter and fail electorally
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Trump is a symptom not the disease
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The disease is capitalism run amok, destroying the livelihoods of the average person
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Considering the overwhelming majority of marijuana offenses are on the state level, this is largely symbolic
He's setting it up for federal decriminalization which will be a huge game changer. I worked in the industry for a while and right now it's fucked because most businesses can't get bank accounts, can't do any interstate commerce. It's narrowed the competition and in many cases you end up with a lot of crazy business owners in the sphere
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TheAnonymousDew 10/6/2022 8:41 PM
Decriminalization of pot would also open up a new industry
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As the Democratic Party continues to refuse to abandon their failed neoliberal policies, they will continue to falter and fail electorally
thechromatograph3r 10/6/2022 8:44 PM
ARGH! SAY IT LOUDER.
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BubsyFanboy 10/7/2022 4:36 AM
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Three House Democrats have introduced legislation to end U.S. troop protection in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) in response to news this week that OPEC and its allies will slash o…
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BubsyFanboy 10/7/2022 11:03 AM
https://www.money.pl/gospodarka/policzyli-prawdziwa-dziure-budzetowa-polski-kwota-jest-zatrwazajaca-6820383254809408a.html [Polish article] Poland's 2023 national budget is currently being debated over in congress. The Ministry of Finance claims the national budget will have a deficit of 68 billion PLN. However, former employees of the ministry claim the government is not giving the full picture of public income and spending. As such, they have calculated the deficit on their own and claim the government will instead spend 206 bln PLN.
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MisterStompy 10/7/2022 5:38 PM
Seriously, when you start viewing women entirely as vessels for child production, you eventually begin to justify impregnating them at younger and younger ages, and then as young as you possibly can. I mean, according to people like Matt Walsh, that's what God put women here for. So why not get them pregnant at 13? Why not 12, 11, or even 10?
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MisterStompy 10/7/2022 8:38 PM
Also in the "everyone I don't like is antifa" vein, in Proud Boy Jeremy Bertino's seditious conspiracy plea from yesterday, he said the group had become so brainwormed by the end of 2020 they viewed police as being in league with antifa.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 10/7/2022 8:50 PM
I wish they were.
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Black Magic 10/8/2022 6:52 PM
The only person Kanye west as to fear is his negaverse version; East Kanye
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 10/8/2022 11:09 PM
I am getting really sick of people who whine about "civilian casualties." Maybe I'm a hard-hearted guy, but when I see in the newspapers that civilians in Afghanistan or the
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Jesus Christ, Shapiro is completely insane.
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HLMenckenFan 10/8/2022 11:20 PM
Ben Shapiro has defended genocide. He's gotten worse from there (edited)
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BubsyFanboy 10/9/2022 8:11 AM
Also Ye has posted this on his Twitter: "I’m a bit sleepy tonight but when I wake up I’m going death con 3 On JEWISH PEOPLE The funny thing is I actually can’t be Anti Semitic because black people are actually Jew also You guys have toyed with me and tried to black ball anyone whoever opposes your agenda" Twitter has since removed the Tweet for TOS violations.
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suspiciously_suspicious 10/9/2022 10:10 AM
Just a heads up, some random internet weirdo's totally real and not made up biologist friend says that everyone that got the jab is going to die tomorrow.
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I'll be surrounded by family and friends that day. My final words will be "I wish I had a 'good honest mate'."
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Dr_Diskette 10/9/2022 10:29 AM
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I welcome the sweet release of death
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LessthanLoneWolf 10/9/2022 2:24 PM
Same. Release me from this torment
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 10/9/2022 3:00 PM
The moment I saw "sovereign citizen" as their name, I knew we were in for some shit.
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Black Magic 10/10/2022 5:04 AM
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thechromatograph3r 10/10/2022 8:45 AM
What bullshit is this?
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https://twitter.com/donaldtusk/status/1579449468919099394 "Russia is brutally attacking Ukrainian cities, and at that time Morawiecki is raving during the rally of pro-Putin parties about the European Union as a "transnational beast". It couldn't be worse."
Rosja bestialsko atakuje ukraińskie miasta, a w tym czasie Morawiecki bredzi na zlocie proputinowskich partii o Unii Europejskiej jako „transnarodowej bestii”. Gorzej nie można.
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This almost feels like a troll
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You didn't forget we are co-ruled by fundamentalists, did you?
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BubsyFanboy 10/10/2022 1:53 PM
If debt had been properly accounted it would have exceeded the permitted threshold of 55% of GDP, finds NIK.
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This almost feels like a troll
suspiciously_suspicious 10/11/2022 10:23 AM
It is a fine example of Poe's law. It could be a troll, but it is also parroting the exact kind of idiocy most sovereign citizens genuinely believe.
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Tulsi Gabbard announced she is leaving the Democratic party. Of course, she's been a right wing nutter for a long while now.
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It is a fine example of Poe's law. It could be a troll, but it is also parroting the exact kind of idiocy most sovereign citizens genuinely believe.
True, though I feel like this one is a little too on-the-nose to not be a troll.
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MisterStompy 10/11/2022 12:07 PM
Christopher Stamat Jr., 21, allegedly fired more than a dozen shots at a homeless family of five sleeping in their car, injuring a pregnant woman.
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BubsyFanboy 10/12/2022 8:10 AM
Feast your eyes
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BubsyFanboy 10/12/2022 8:33 AM
1. At least 201 people including 23 children, have been killed in the nationwide protests in Iran. The investigation into the extent of the repression and number of deaths in Kurdistan over the last 3 days is still ongoing. #IranRevolution #مهسا_امینی #سنندج
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Prager: "There's no secular argument against adult incest. Brother and sister want to make love, what's your argument? That they're going to produce mentally retarded offspring? That's nonsense. It takes many generations of inbreeding to do that" https://t.co/L6X82TfYvp
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thechromatograph3r 10/12/2022 4:12 PM
Alex Jones must pay $965 million in damages to numerous families of victims of the 2012 Sandy Hook mass shooting for falsely claiming they were actors who faked the tragedy, a Connecticut jury said on Wednesday, marking the second multimillion-dollar verdict against the conspiracy theorist in just over two months.
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The Supreme Court on Thursday rejected an emergency request from former President Donald Trump to intervene in the dispute over classified documents seized from his Mar-a-Lago estate in August.
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GET FUCKED. EVEN THE CORRUPT COURT HAS ABANDONED YOU
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now...how is Trump gonna encourage his cult to attack the SC
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god if he actually causes the republicans in-house fighting something fierce, it fuck them over this midterm
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He could potentially use this well. And SCOTUS didn’t abandon him, they just don’t want to be obvious about their corruption.
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It’s their own internal kabuki theater
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WojtektheBear 10/14/2022 9:44 PM
Oh yeah abolish the secret service a huge portion of them are compromised chuds
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Like don’t just purge them. Give the President actual marines and they can wear suits or whatever
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Oh yeah abolish the secret service a huge portion of them are compromised chuds
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 10/14/2022 10:31 PM
Why do you think Biden fired most of them when he took office?
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So many of them are Trump loyalists.
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Why do you think Biden fired most of them when he took office?
WojtektheBear 10/14/2022 10:37 PM
Did he?
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I know he switched his detail I didn’t realize he fired them
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Biden did
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To be fair, he wanted to use the guys who guarded him during Obama's presidency
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even before the USSS was found compromised by chuds during the Trump era
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He could potentially use this well. And SCOTUS didn’t abandon him, they just don’t want to be obvious about their corruption.
Oh, no. I know the court is corrupt as hell. But its a open secret that Thomas at the least is sweating because the J6 committee is looking into her. Ditto Alito. Rumor mill is Alito's possibly under investigation for some J6 related fuckery too. Kavenaugh and Illegitimate Judge Barrett were surprises though. Unless they know something about J6/Spy shit that could really put their ass on the fire.
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The rule of Law and The integrity of our countries intelligence are two very different beasts And out of the two, One should NEVER fuck with the latter. The former you can get away with if your lucky or smart enough. The latter are people who've committed war crimes and gotten away with it and overthrown enough countries that they REALLY should not be underestimated. I have no love for them, but Ironically one way to get Justice on your ass IS by fucking with them. And Trump absolutely fucked with them. (edited)
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Hell, civil rights activists in the 1960s had to make it a habit to avoid the FBI and CIA's ire. Fuck, politicians weren't safe from the CIA for Years. And I fear they are willing to go back to that mindset. Because of Trump.
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BubsyFanboy 10/15/2022 9:21 AM
The congress of Mexico's most populous state voted overwhelmingly to legally recognize same-sex marriage.
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love the chad in the clone trooper helmet with thr pride flag
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LessthanLoneWolf 10/15/2022 11:49 PM
A week after Jan. 6, a person warned a senior FBI official that a “sizable percentage” of bureau employees “felt sympathetic” to the rioters.
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Shit like this worries me
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Same here. This isn't good.
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Thank God the polish libertarians have a backbone
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Thank God the polish libertarians have a backbone
BubsyFanboy 10/16/2022 3:40 AM
I mean, they kind of have to. They're the only socially progressive right-libertarian group. The only other political parties that claim to be libertarian are reactionaries, monarchists and Putin, Xi and Lukashenka apologists inside a coalition with neo-fascists, which is a total farce and defiance of libertarian theory. (edited)
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True there. And meanwhile there is our libertarian party which is tearing itself apart
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True there. And meanwhile there is our libertarian party which is tearing itself apart
BubsyFanboy 10/16/2022 3:43 AM
US or Russia?
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Got taken over by the Mises caucus
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BubsyFanboy 10/16/2022 9:33 AM
Brussels is formally withholding from Poland close to €80bn in EU cohesion funds under new rules linked to judicial rights - new from @Sam1Fleming, @RaphaelMinder and me https://t.co/Hy3Ni0EtEj
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Midterms if Dems had the same polling as Labour (UK)
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Hell, civil rights activists in the 1960s had to make it a habit to avoid the FBI and CIA's ire. Fuck, politicians weren't safe from the CIA for Years. And I fear they are willing to go back to that mindset. Because of Trump.
WojtektheBear 10/16/2022 11:58 PM
As someone who’s dug pretty deep into MK Ultra and Operation Condor I am always kinda suss’d out that the people defending democracy include people like James Clapper and Evan McMullin
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WojtektheBear 10/17/2022 12:00 AM
Look I don’t want to be too harsh about this but like DSA can’t even do this
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All politics is personal
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we should be drilling that
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also
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BubsyFanboy 10/17/2022 5:00 AM
"As a result of the non-fulfilment of basic conditions, the commission cannot reimburse any expenditure submitted by Poland," says a spokesman.
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Look I don’t want to be too harsh about this but like DSA can’t even do this
Third parties don’t spend enough time on the locals
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Look I don’t want to be too harsh about this but like DSA can’t even do this
joe hill’s revenge 10/17/2022 1:10 PM
Do what?
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Do what?
WojtektheBear 10/17/2022 1:15 PM
Unequivocally condemn Russia as the aggressor
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Unequivocally condemn Russia as the aggressor
joe hill’s revenge 10/17/2022 1:40 PM
It’s more complicated than that, the war started in 2014 with the coup and eastern secession movement. So Russia is the aggressor now but Ukraine has been a political war zone between USA and Russian imperialism since the early 2000s
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It’s more complicated than that, the war started in 2014 with the coup and eastern secession movement. So Russia is the aggressor now but Ukraine has been a political war zone between USA and Russian imperialism since the early 2000s
WojtektheBear 10/17/2022 1:40 PM
I’m choosing to ignore this
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joe hill’s revenge 10/17/2022 1:43 PM
That’s your choice
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But
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WojtektheBear 10/17/2022 1:44 PM
It’s wildly inaccurate misinformation that deliberately ignores Ukrainian perspectives
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joe hill’s revenge 10/17/2022 1:44 PM
What party the war started in 2014
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Not 2022 (edited)
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WojtektheBear 10/17/2022 1:45 PM
Again not engaging, this is a waste a time
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joe hill’s revenge 10/17/2022 1:45 PM
I condemn Russian aggression
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WojtektheBear 10/17/2022 1:45 PM
You’re entitled to your opinion but the vast majority of chat would disagree with your framing
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Again I’m not wasting anymore time with you on this
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joe hill’s revenge 10/17/2022 1:47 PM
Everything I said was factual no framing
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Everything I said was factual no framing
WojtektheBear 10/17/2022 1:48 PM
You want the last word? Fine. This is not what I come here for
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BubsyFanboy 10/17/2022 4:40 PM
https://meduza.io/paragraph/2022/10/17/na-slushaniyah-v-gosdume-zapret-gey-propagandy-sravnili-s-krupnoy-voennoy-pobedoy State Duma had hearings on an in-works bill they have which would ban "gay propaganda". Completely - not just "for minors", but like completely (in other words, ban on talking about or showing LGBT people existing in a neutral or positive way) The following text is an amalgamation of all statements, regardless of order, sort of paraphrasing, but not really: officials and "activists" were actually saying this:
Non-traditional values are being imposed by our enemies to enslave us. We protect the country from the darkness that is increasingly spreading in the world. In Britain, children are forbidden to offend pedophiles. In the U.S., the number of schoolchildren undecided about their gender has increased 582% in two years. We need a law that makes it possible not to be afraid for children when they go to see a movie or a play - because today it can all carry destructive values. And more and more Russians are saying they're sick of it. People complain to us about LGBT propaganda in books; there are LGBT characters in online games - technically they are labeled 18+, but kids can get around that with one click. And there's nothing we can do about it now - not even to interfere with the process of making movies and plays. The bill is not censorship, because we are not banning mention of LGBT. Only propaganda. It would not restrict, but protect the rights of Russians. And in general, it would be good to ban criticism of traditional values as well. And the words "LGBT" and "gender. Sodomy is a mortal sin, it is the core of Satanism. Against this Satanism our brothers and sons are dying on Ukrainian soil. This law would amount to a major military victory.
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When you fail on the battlefield, do the tried and tested method of Blame The Gays(TM)! 🤡
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MisterStompy 10/17/2022 5:58 PM
Neo-Nazi group NSC_131 attempted to demonstrate in Quincy, MA yesterday and were confronted by a local wielding scissors.
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Ok I'll stop the memes
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BubsyFanboy 10/18/2022 7:33 AM
Liz Truss's net favourability rating has fallen to -70 Favourable: 10% (-5 from 11-12 Oct) Unfavourable: 80% (+9) https://t.co/ZJ7P5Or91I
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Liz Truss is now nearly as unpopular among British voters as Vladimir Putin (his net favourability rating is -74)
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BubsyFanboy 10/18/2022 8:18 AM
Up until October 16 in Iran: 241 : murdered protesters 32 of which were legal children 7811 : the estimated number of detainees 778 identified detainees 26 dead security forces 177 detained students 472 urban and universitaire gatherings 114 protesting cities 79 protesting universities
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how do i confront social democrats who call themselves socialist?
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Black Magic 10/18/2022 1:53 PM
Speculation: The U.S. is currently forcing a confrontation with China. The Chip ban will effectively force China to drastic actions. (( Note: I view this as a good thing ))
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joe hill’s revenge 10/18/2022 2:03 PM
Liz untruss-tworthy
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how do i confront social democrats who call themselves socialist?
Black Magic 10/18/2022 2:14 PM
Why would you?
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Why would you?
because they support private means of production ownership, and are thus not socialist
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Black Magic 10/18/2022 2:28 PM
The term socialist has mutated in the common lexicon.
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largely due the influences of right wing reactionaries, but also due to the larger moderate influences. "socialism" serves as the root for the term "social" in Soc.Dem
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Personally i seed nothing wrong with Hybridized economies. Markets can exist perfectly well inside the frame of de-commodified necessities (i.e. housing, food,water,ect.)
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Anyways, the same way Capitalism has become conflated with all Market systems, Socialism has become conflated with al de-commodification and safety nets.
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AarborneDivision 10/18/2022 3:07 PM
I tend to agree with that. Communists and anarchists can sometimes be a little gatekeep-y about the term socialism, but there are a lot of traditions that allow for a transition period into a socialist state or an economic model that focuses on using wealth equitably to create a hybrid economy that respects workers rights. Ultimately I have no take on what is the "correct" way but there are a lot of socialists out there with different ideas for achieving their goals (Case in point, look at the First International and how big tent it was before the split between Marx and Bakunin)
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the ideological family of social democracy
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im also dsa
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they claim they are socialist
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but support a private mode of production.
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Black Magic 10/18/2022 7:02 PM
I think the market system is actually very powerful and useful. Humans tend not to like control, or have a healthy relationship with command and control economies.. but more importantly, humans tend not to handle power well. Markets paired with democracy, tend to produce a good range of results so long as both systems are respected and used together.
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Black Magic 10/19/2022 1:14 AM
The robber barons are not a super new concept
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I do have a way to solve a lot of these problems; the only catch is it will create all new problems
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North American Union
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Black Magic 10/19/2022 1:26 AM
They’re full of shit, they’re just as crazy
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Canadian Q is a real thing.
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But Canada isn’t the only important partner
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Mexico too.
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There will be problems. And pains. Mexico is important to the endeavor but it’s got serious problems that need addressed. Some of which would inevitably be violent
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Oh well, mostly fantasy
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… of all the places
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That’s like wanting to go to France, but for the people.
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😄 well the main reasons for a union are the opportunities to unify and reform the central banks.
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It would be a welcome addition to add more senators and the influence they’d bring.
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BubsyFanboy 10/19/2022 3:49 AM
This is the threatening tweet posyed by a Saudi agency threatening Canada with a 9/11 type attack on the CN Tower in Toronto. The tweet was later deleted.
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Move is another sign of kingdom’s aggressive crackdown on any whiff of dissent posted on social media
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Saudis being hypocrites episode 362886
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BubsyFanboy 10/19/2022 9:44 AM
WARSAW, Poland (AP) — The leader of Poland’s largest opposition party on Tuesday called on the country’s ruling party to fully clarify the facts surrounding an eight-year-old scandal involving the illegal recordings of top politicians and coal imports from Russia.
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MisterStompy 10/19/2022 5:45 PM
OH WOW THE GUY ACCUSING EVERYONE OF BEING A PEDOPHILE TURNED OUT TO BE A PEDOPHILE I'M SO SHOCKED https://www.huffpost.com/entry/arizona-gop-candidate-arrested-allegedly-masturbating-truck_n_635007e2e4b03e8038da457f
Maricopa County officials say it's too late to remove Randy Kaufman from the ballot in the race for a college district board.
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MisterStompy 10/19/2022 9:23 PM
BREAKING🚨 BERLUSCONI FULLY ENDORSES THE 🇷🇺 INVASION OF 🇺🇦 IN A LEAKED AUDIO FROM HIS SPEECH OF YESTERDAY TO FI MPs, HE: -PARROTS KREMLIN PROPAGANDA, -BLAMES ZELENSKY AND 🇺🇦 FOR THE INVASION -ATTACKS THE WEST FOR SENDING THEM WEAPONS -FULLY JUSTIFIES PUTIN AND 🇷🇺 A THREAD 🧵
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The new far right coalition is gonna crash way faster than I thought at first
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MisterStompy 10/19/2022 9:36 PM
For those who don't know Forza Italione (idk if I'm spelling that right) is necessary for the coaltion to remain in power, the rest of the coalition will NOT be happy about this
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Have they even, you know, started governing yet?
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God damnit Italy, have you learned nothing since WWII?
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Have they even, you know, started governing yet?
MisterStompy 10/19/2022 9:58 PM
What did I say about Italian parliaments lmao?
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I was expecting this at least a year from now
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Not a month
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MisterStompy 10/19/2022 10:01 PM
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So apparently Georgia already broke its record for early voting
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and it looks like its still growing
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some think Georgia GOP's attempt to punish dem cities via banning free water and food and ballot boxed might have backfired horribly by making people vote earlier (edited)
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LessthanLoneWolf 10/20/2022 6:52 AM
Does anyone know what the dominant political views of most AIF members are? Socialist, social democrat, libertarian, communist? And does anyone have recommendations on literature to learn more about the dominant political views?
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That would be an interesting poll we could conduct. We can make polls with @IronBot
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used /poll
Carl-bot BOT 10/20/2022 6:54 AM
Steve Mike asks: Is pineapple on pizza a mortal sin?
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Carl-bot BOT 10/20/2022 6:56 AM
Steve Mike asks: What 1⃣: is 2⃣: the 3⃣: best 4⃣: pizza? 5⃣: Pepperoni 6⃣: Supreme 7⃣: Cheese
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whoops not how you do it
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BubsyFanboy 10/20/2022 8:56 AM
Liz Truss has resigned.
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Might be the Shortest pm reign ever.
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But over all a solid W for the lettuce
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Noice
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MisterStompy 10/20/2022 11:41 AM
remember, fascists don't fuck, they just screw https://twitter.com/NickWhithorn/status/1582800908068364288
Meloni has lost her patience with Berlusconi: "Italy is a full and proud member of Europe & the Atlantic alliance. Anyone who disagrees with this cornerstone cannot be part of the government, even if this means not forming the government."
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also suck it, Tankies, this means NATO disrupted a fascist alliance
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MisterStompy 10/20/2022 6:20 PM
Reuters: U.S. SUPREME COURT JUSTICE AMY CONEY BARRETT DENIES WISCONSIN TAXPAYERS GROUP'S BID TO BLOCK BIDEN'S STUDENT DEBT RELIEF
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Mark my words; this is just for the brownie points
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Mark my words; this is just for the brownie points
MisterStompy 10/20/2022 6:22 PM
I'm just excited for the discourse that follows
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How so?
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How so?
MisterStompy 10/20/2022 6:46 PM
MAGA people are gonna be pissed and call her a communist which is funny
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Black Magic 10/21/2022 3:25 AM
I dunno, it depends if trump attacks her.
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Mark my words; this is just for the brownie points
WojtektheBear 10/21/2022 12:30 PM
Also tbh they wouldn’t be able to control the chaos of the precedent that taxpayers can sue the state for doing things they don’t like
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Left wingers would be spamming that shit if it became legal
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BubsyFanboy 10/21/2022 1:07 PM
Take a look at this, learn their names and retweet this. These are Members of the European Parliament, representing the ruling parties of Hungary, Poland & Italy. They voted against the European Parliament condeming the terrorism and murder of LGBTIQ+ persons in Slovakia.
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did anyone hear about what is happening in pakistan?
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No, what's going on?
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No, what's going on?
its flooding, a third if the country is under water.
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Oh my goodness....
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Taco Avenger 10/21/2022 4:19 PM
Fog Reveal raises enormous privacy and civil liberties concerns, writes Anne Toomey McKenna. Yet it may be permissible because the U.S. lacks a comprehensive federal data privacy law. By Anne Toomey McKenna  University of Richmond By Anne Toomey McKenna  University of Richmond Government ag
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Sees New Mexico Yup that sounds about right. They've been very much not tolerating fasc fuckery (edited)
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MisterStompy 10/21/2022 6:38 PM
Polish libertarians have had enough of the Mises Caucus. https://twitter.com/ErykWierzejski/status/1580919381982601216
Dear friends from @LPNational and @LPNH You may not know, but Poles know what imperialism and totalitarianism is, especially Russian. In the 18th century we fought together against British imperialism for your independence ( maybe you forgot about Tadeusz Kosciuszko ?). 1/5
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MisterStompy 10/21/2022 6:47 PM
@LPCO everyone who believes that Russia was provoked by the usa/deepstate/nato/your mother/globalhomo simply does not know the history of the last 100 years
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its flooding, a third if the country is under water.
Oh jeez I hadn't checked in on that particular disaster in a while. They're saying some places it'll take SIX MONTHS for the water to recede??!?
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Libertarians in the us are like universally weirdos
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They think they’re being principled by the way.
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Being a miserable selfish prick passe as strong moral character to the American libertarian
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BubsyFanboy 10/22/2022 2:44 AM
https://www-bankier-pl.translate.goog/wiadomosc/Rentownosc-polskich-obligacji-siegnela-9-8426704.html?_x_tr_sl=pl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pl&_x_tr_pto=wapp Polish government bonds reach 9% YTM. This is great news for buyers, but terrible news for the government.
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Polish libertarians have had enough of the Mises Caucus. https://twitter.com/ErykWierzejski/status/1580919381982601216
BubsyFanboy 10/22/2022 2:56 AM
And both Polish and Russian libertarians are correct. Trying to be neutral in the Ukraine-Russia war is a pointless venture for painting yourself as pacifist at best and spreading Kremlin's narratives during the most crucial times in recent history at worst. I myself talked to such a person, who claimed "the Azov Movement is global" and claimed Azov is being massively cheered in western media. You'd think if they were that praised, the Azov Regiment would've had at least 10,000 volunteers by now instead of just the 900-2,500 soldiers they have now. But anyway, Poles and Russians know exactly who Putin is and how Ukraine's politics look like. Russians live under Putin and see all mainstream political parties in Russia suck up to him. Of course, they are on the short end of the stick, because Putin is an authoritarian. Good luck being a public figure and criticizing him without "miraculously" dying or getting imprisoned. Poles on the other hand knew what Putin was up to since Crimea, a huge chunk of them even warned about it since their Georgia intervention. Poles also have to deal with a fake-libertarian party in congress that actively shills for Putin. The point is, we know a Putinist shill when he talks. So you can probably imagine the frustration of Polish and Russian libertarians, who see LPUSA and its regional chapters (including LPNH), the party meant to represent right-libertarianism in its very birthplace, try to cover up for the biggest modern-day oppressor and war-mongerer in Europe. (edited)
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Putin critics play near windows a lot
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And also, there’s a barely plausibly deniable funnel of RT money into the hands of libertarian talking heads
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LessthanLoneWolf 10/22/2022 1:47 PM
@heinz_ketchup yeah, more than likely. Start making backup plans
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Iran just had a bunch of nuclear secrets just dropped By a supposed Iranian hacker group Oh no
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Black Magic 10/22/2022 6:11 PM
Iranian hackers leaked Iranian secrets
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Supposedly
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 10/22/2022 6:56 PM
But no, the LGBTQ community is full of pedos.
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Every accusation is a confession.
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MisterStompy 10/22/2022 7:06 PM
communists be like "guys don't vote, I have a better plan!" their plan:
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Or ya know...vote, then make a backup armed resistance if shit goes south. That's a lot of problem with communist thought, even if I agree with a LOT of their views: They seriously underestimate the danger of Greed in the every man
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Or ya know...vote, then make a backup armed resistance if shit goes south. That's a lot of problem with communist thought, even if I agree with a LOT of their views: They seriously underestimate the danger of Greed in the every man
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 10/22/2022 7:37 PM
Yeah, just because someone isn't part of the bourgeoisie doesn't mean they're incapable of cruelty. (edited)
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YOU YOU GET IT
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 10/22/2022 7:38 PM
Case in point: The French Revolution(s)
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Overthrew their corrupt monarchs only to possibly be even worse.
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Ok to be fair, the French revolution was a fucking mess from the getgo. You have a fuckton of fractions involved, some who wanted no government, some who wanted to keep some royalty but limit their powers, some wanted democracy and some wanted basically democracy after the death of all royalty and that's not counting the infighting at the time
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LessthanLoneWolf 10/22/2022 7:41 PM
@Aces high the problem is that there ISN’T any armed resistance planned* if things go pear shaped. And frankly, things WILL
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Everyone thinks the best case scenario will happen, not the worst
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 10/22/2022 7:42 PM
Like an old Discovery Channel special told me, "Hope for the best but prepare for the worst".
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It was an "I Shouldn't Be Alive" episode iirc.
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If you wish for Peace, prepare for War?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 10/22/2022 7:48 PM
That too.
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I'm a very big fan of peace myself.
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It's why I've been gearing up these past few days.
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LessthanLoneWolf 10/22/2022 7:51 PM
It’s better to be a warrior in a garden, than a gardener in a war
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@Aces high @heinz_ketchup @Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy wouldn’t you agree?
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No Namely because I hate the term "warrior"
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 10/22/2022 8:08 PM
Yet another thing right-wing crazies have ruined.
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Also gardeners are surprisely more useful skill then you think
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Like how to dig 6ft holes
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 10/22/2022 8:10 PM
And their talents with shovels in general. (edited)
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And grow food
8:12 PM
And access to fertilizer
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MisterStompy 10/22/2022 9:11 PM
Pay attention to shit like this, take notes https://twitter.com/Nrg8000/status/1583519585545789440
🧵Yesterday morning, the KTLA, KNLA and affiliated resistance fighters stormed the city of Kawkareik in Southern Myanmar. The offensive on the city of 100,000 people is the first attempt by resistance fighters to capture and clear junta-held urban territory in a major way. /1
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also YEAAAAH WE TRUSTBUSTIN' THIS MOTHERFUCKER https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1583444059104096257
US now considering national security reviews of various Musk deals, from Silicon and Twitter all the way tonCrimea. https://t.co/ps6kyJl1AU via @TPM
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This is why you don't try to bully the US military
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Black Magic 10/24/2022 2:19 AM
Except Val demmings I haven’t seen an ad anywhere in Florida by any democrat
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Not even yard signs
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None of the indicators that campaigns are actually campaigning
2:22 AM
I suspect the democrat party at national level maybe doing some shady money laundering
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its florida
2:24 AM
everyone is doing money laundering!
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Indeed
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Ted Cruz is in the closet is a tasteless joke that I will refrain from making, in spite of how much I want to make it.
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Also, Fuck Clarence Thomas. Fuck the shadow docket.
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Clarence Thomas needs a visit from the local Black Panther party imo.
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Fuck reagan for getting rid of em
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BubsyFanboy 10/24/2022 4:57 PM
Despite continual promises from The FA, LGBTQ+ people in Qatar are sharing shocking stories of police brutality for simply existing.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 10/24/2022 5:14 PM
Least homophobic middle-eastern country:
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Company’s can sue for damages of profits during a strike
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MisterStompy 10/24/2022 10:35 PM
Following the cancellation of Gavin McInnes' “Stand Back and Stand By” event, “We Are Not Afraid Of Proud Boys” chants have broken out.
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That I can get behind
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BubsyFanboy 10/25/2022 3:25 AM
https://next.gazeta.pl/next/7,151003,29064236,pis-chce-na-piec-lat-zablokowac-zmiany-we-wladzach-pieciu-spolek.html PiS are about to block leadership changes in government-owned companies for up to 5 years. They know they're practically on their way out, so they're now doing everything possible to paralyze the future democrat-led government.
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MisterStompy 10/25/2022 10:32 AM
Neoconfederate hired by Marco Rubio gets the shit kicked out of him. https://twitter.com/MIAagainstFash/status/1584583654067802114
With high confidence we are calling that the @marcorubio canvasser who was attacked + hospitalized last night was Christopher Monzon aka the “Cuban Confederate” who has a well documented history of advocating white supremacy — AND deep involvement in Miami GOP politics.
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me, a asexual:
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well yes. But regardless, I'm getting sick of these degenerate perverts wanting in on people's bedrooms. We should take a cue from Penn state and set a example
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and they are degenerate perverts*
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no other group is this obsessed with what people do in their god damn home
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bet you money half of their members are peeping toms.
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bet you money half of their members are peeping toms.
Wouldn't be suprised
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you know, I once got spied on by a peeping tom
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bet you money half of their members are peeping toms.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 10/25/2022 4:24 PM
Well, one did get caught wanking near a school and another... is Matt Gaetz.
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I'll bet you it's WAY more than peeping these creeps are doing.
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I saw him through my window...and instead of screaming I chased him with a bat verbally threatening to do horrible shit to him. Never been peeped since then. Or seen a man run that fast before
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I'll bet you it's WAY more than peeping these creeps are doing.
Most likely.
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Yeah. Shapiro still get a dry V tho.
4:53 PM
There's a reason I say fuckers who suggest shit like this should be made examples out of
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But really we should be targeting shit like Heritage foundation associated churches and the like for protests. Ideally involving loud obnoxious music and means of arms in case I'm partial to channeling my inner ITEHTTSD fan and break out the Heresy accusations like I'm a fucking member of the Inquisition
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Ironically I have mused taking a page out of anti-abortion nuts and proposed using pictures and signs of the human cost of their actions Even if the adults are set in their ways, their children are not
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i watched the oz fetterman debate
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it was a tie
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noah, get the boat
The big boat
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for billions
11:18 PM
plus animals
11:18 PM
make it a space ark
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But overkill. Also we have to fistfight Musk and his fanboys
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I'm up for it! I'll get the spiked mace
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Bit*
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But overkill. Also we have to fistfight Musk and his fanboys
true, arm with phasers and turbolasers, got will give us it all
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....libral citizens take guns, take a cue from the Black panthers and seize local government buildings when trying illegal ballot shenanigans Or parents of a shooting victim decide the cops are incompetent and take actions in their own hands Or police throw a strike over how bad this is (and it WILL backfire horribly against them)
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This is a special kind of stupid, even for Texas
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 10/27/2022 3:05 AM
As someone who is very pro-gun myself, I agree. These things are not toys and should not be handed out like them. They are weapons and should be treated as such, only used as a last resort.
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While I don't believe taking guns away from law-abiding citizens and/or making it harder for them to get one is the answer, I'm not naïve enough to believe that simply adding more of them to the general populace will make the problem go away. (edited)
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My own personal philosophy (and one I always state as a counterpoint to the argument guns are tools) is that a gun is a tool for blood shed and JUST blood shed. You are using the threat of violence, even if it was just for defense. There's the fact that to even have a gun you must be willing to use violence if the situation absolutely calls for it, especially as a last resort. It helps me keep a healthy caution with firearms. (edited)
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My own personal philosophy (and one I always state as a counterpoint to the argument guns are tools) is that a gun is a tool for blood shed and JUST blood shed. You are using the threat of violence, even if it was just for defense. There's the fact that to even have a gun you must be willing to use violence if the situation absolutely calls for it, especially as a last resort. It helps me keep a healthy caution with firearms. (edited)
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 10/27/2022 3:55 AM
To be fair, there are some people who own guns just to collect them and/or to pop targets at the range as a way of blowing off steam. Still, a solid philosophy.
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Thank you. And yeah I'm aware of hobbists but in my experience they are a minority. Again, my experience though. CA gun culture is split evenly between red wing gun nuts and politically all over the place hunters. At least where I am. Which is near Los Angeles County. Which ALSO had a leftist gun culture (abet silently growing. 2016-2020 enraged a lot of democrats near were I live into firearm purchasing.)
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oh nooo
BubsyFanboy 10/27/2022 3:52 PM
Polish women's rights defenders face charges including 'causing an epidemiological threat' and endangering public health
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They're going to do this to the march that tried to respect anti-COVID measures by wearing masks and keeping distance whenever possible, but not the neo-Nazis from around the same time who didn't bother to do either and even burned down an apartment.
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Thankfully, the local/gubernatorial government of Warsaw is dealing with them, but this still reeks of persecuting your political enemies.
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Even worse when you know PiS has a history of directly financing, co-organizing and participating in neo-Nazi gatherings. (edited)
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LessthanLoneWolf 10/27/2022 4:22 PM
I get the feeling we’ll be seeing these kinds of things in our future
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I get the feeling we’ll be seeing these kinds of things in our future
BubsyFanboy 10/27/2022 5:53 PM
Oh, believe me - Poland and USA are more parallel than people realize. You will most likely see an event like this in your lifetime.
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....isn't the election in Polands election suggesting that the conservative party is starting to lose "popularity" Plus the EU been looking into putting a abortion Clause in its membership Least that's the rumor
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MisterStompy 10/27/2022 7:26 PM
And here I was thinking he was a complete dipshit.
7:26 PM
Just for the record, I don't think Elon really cares about offending people or not, he just knows that he'll lose advertisers if he does what he said he'd do before.
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Tbh the problem is Musk is in deep shit rn with the lawsuits
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And Twitter cost him a LOT of money
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It's gonna do a tumblrificatin watch
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MisterStompy 10/27/2022 7:28 PM
idk, all I know is he's fucked finanically. He's gonna sell it back in less than 3 years, I guarantee it. He had to sell so much of his Tesla stock it's hilarious.
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Wouldn't be surprised if he ends up selling SpaceX to the government. Maybe even Starlink.
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With Elon I agree with him on tons of "little things" but there's like two huge things I don't agree with him on that make me dislike him greatly, and him being a massive dickhead obviously doesn't help.
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So this is how it goes with Twitter, he lets the moderation team continue doing it's thing (which it wasn't very good at to begin with) and then has to give up the company in 3 years or less because he's flat broke, or he does make it 4Chan 2.0, and he goes bankrupt because all the advertisers dip.
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Either way he's fucked
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Rochester was able to boot this event out of our city proper, forcing them into a revival tent at a church in a rural area. Local clergy were very against the RAT, and if anyone wants to get mobilized to start countering this shitshow in their area, I can help you a bit.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 10/30/2022 2:31 PM
Must be nice having cops not on the side of the nazis.
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BubsyFanboy 10/30/2022 3:42 PM
Corporate communists control the speech of their employees & customers by only allowing Democrat speech and punishing, silencing, and canceling Republican speech. But there is a shift beginning. People are beginning to refuse to be silenced and a Patriot economy is beginning.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 10/30/2022 3:48 PM
Republican Speech = Saying racial slurs and demeaning/threatening anyone who doesn't agree with you.
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joe hill’s revenge 10/30/2022 3:52 PM
Republican speech: tiocfaidh ar la
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LessthanLoneWolf 10/30/2022 5:28 PM
Bet those invalid votes are for Lula
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Update: Lula is ahead
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I just want to keep everyone updated. But still take what I'm posting with a grain of salt
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I think Lula just won
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yeah people are calling it for lula, now for the scary part
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The aftermath
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Let's see how the Brazilian armed forces sway
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I suggest we keep an eye on Brazil, while of course still working as well as we can up here
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 10/30/2022 7:22 PM
Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva will be the country’s next president, officials confirmed, after a long and bitter campaign between the former president and the current far-right leader. It was a rejection of Jair Bolsonaro’s far-right movement and his divisive four years in office.
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LessthanLoneWolf 10/30/2022 7:34 PM
@archon whatever happens in Brazil could be a good estimate of what could happen up here
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Exactly what I'm thinking. But at the same time it couldn't.
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Black Magic 10/30/2022 8:17 PM
Brazil might be a good thermometer
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Has Bolsonaro made a statement yet?
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Nothing yet
9:09 PM
Probably tomorrow
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I guess I have to hold my breath and hope nothing stupid happens while I sleep then. But I almost expect to wake up to news of a coup attempt in the morning.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 10/30/2022 11:09 PM
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I have wondered if Elon is an accelerationist, or literally insane
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Both.
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Definitely both
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I used to simply distrust musk, but now he's off the walls insane
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And if this conspiracy is true, then evil to. Unfortunately for all of us musk has built up a cult of personality around himself
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This is a fascinating read
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This is a fascinating read
Agreed. And now I hate Musk even more. Why did we give that con-artist, fascist, corrupt putin-loving scumbag piece of s--- citizenship anyways?
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LessthanLoneWolf 11/1/2022 8:55 AM
In that case we need to build a new narrative, or fall back on the tried and true regionalism. California, Cascadia, and the North East already have strong regional identities, and are generally leftist strongholds
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And better independent that under a fascist dictatorship
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Democrat running for state house in PA knocked unconscious by man trying to break into his house. "He had my arm behind my back, and he was pounding me," Ringer said. "The only thing I have is the bruising on my hand and face, but he hit me a couple of times and knocked me out." Ringer has reported multiple incidents to state police over the past three weeks. He said someone spray-painted a threatening message on his garage door a few weeks ago. One week later, Ringer said someone threw a brick through the window to his back door. https://www.wtae.com/article/pa-house-candidate-fayette-county-assaulted/41823914
State police confirm they are investigating this alleged assault.
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In that case we need to build a new narrative, or fall back on the tried and true regionalism. California, Cascadia, and the North East already have strong regional identities, and are generally leftist strongholds
we need to deal with the shitheads in Shasta tho but yeah
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Democrat running for state house in PA knocked unconscious by man trying to break into his house. "He had my arm behind my back, and he was pounding me," Ringer said. "The only thing I have is the bruising on my hand and face, but he hit me a couple of times and knocked me out." Ringer has reported multiple incidents to state police over the past three weeks. He said someone spray-painted a threatening message on his garage door a few weeks ago. One week later, Ringer said someone threw a brick through the window to his back door. https://www.wtae.com/article/pa-house-candidate-fayette-county-assaulted/41823914
This is why I have several heavy knives and hammers on my person and am looking into firearm ownership.
1:30 PM
I wanna put a pride flag out but not until I have sufficient means of defending myself. Come on my lawn, I turn into a angry old man real quick
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Feds getting involved in the Arizona ballot situation
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LessthanLoneWolf 11/1/2022 1:50 PM
@Aces high better to stay under the radar. My neighbors know I like hunting, farming, and my brothers in the Army. As far as they know, I may be just another good ole boy.
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Some good points being made here
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to be brutally honest, our system is unfortunately really easy to fuck up and hard to actually punish
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you gotta play the long term game to actually make shit into law
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that said, I am a firm believer that the democrats should drop all niceties and just call the republicans compromised by terrorist cells. And purge them
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related, Republican media needs to be targetted asap
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they have connections to Russia
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if you can confiscate a boat, you can confiscate Tucker Carlson
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LessthanLoneWolf 11/1/2022 6:32 PM
@heinz_ketchup you’re exactly right.
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so what are we gonna fuckin do about it
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LessthanLoneWolf 11/1/2022 9:35 PM
@curcale there’s only so much we CAN do. Raise awareness, offer support to targeted groups, call out the enemy. We can only do so much at ground level for our size
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@curcale I for one will keep posting anti-fascist propaganda in my AO. I’m also going to refresh my basic first aid skills and buy supplies to provide emergency medical care. Each of us have different skills, and together we can produce some level of resistance, no matter how slight, against the rising tide. We may not be a breakwater, but we can try to limit how much gets pulled out to sea
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@curcale I for one will keep posting anti-fascist propaganda in my AO. I’m also going to refresh my basic first aid skills and buy supplies to provide emergency medical care. Each of us have different skills, and together we can produce some level of resistance, no matter how slight, against the rising tide. We may not be a breakwater, but we can try to limit how much gets pulled out to sea
im planning on taking krav maga classes and a stop the bleed course
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LessthanLoneWolf 11/1/2022 9:52 PM
Stop the bleed will be important.
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Black Magic 11/1/2022 11:52 PM
I am forming a leftist gun club in my area
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As terrible as this sounds, I do hope that the attempts on Nancy's life are forcing more dems to being more "punchy". Provided my state has Newsom, who mind you I DO like, has been punching back since the recall attempt. He's been real salty at the GOP for awhile
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Black Magic 11/1/2022 11:54 PM
Is there a residential clause in Texas?
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Newsom is Kennedy money. He has the charm and despite looking like a cliche rich Californian, has a genuine viciousness when it goes to the GOP
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With permitless guns
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which seems to be a bad idea if there's...oh....two whole leftist leaning cities who are very much done with the state gop gov
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Texas fucking itself up will be a win for CA tbh. They lose money in the long term and while it will be hell for the citizens, it will backfire at some point even the rural folk are gonna feel it
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Looks at CA education and how I'm pretty sure they've kneecapped people before
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CA teachers lowkey don't fuck around
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they are vicious when they get going
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Black Magic 11/1/2022 11:59 PM
He’s no John brown, but still based Sam Huston
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As terrible as this sounds, I do hope that the attempts on Nancy's life are forcing more dems to being more "punchy". Provided my state has Newsom, who mind you I DO like, has been punching back since the recall attempt. He's been real salty at the GOP for awhile
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Nancy isn’t good for much else
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If she gets killed and it makes liBs punchy, that’s two good things happening.
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A ruling class ghoul dies, and libs get punchy
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ARs are still legal here, abet at a smaller capacity. been looking into that when I can get it.
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joe hill’s revenge 11/2/2022 12:02 AM
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Nancy isn’t good for much else
She also literally karen'd the national guard into doing their fucking Job when it was apparent both the "former president" and VP weren't talking. She's the defacto third in line should something happen to Biden and Harris
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Black Magic 11/2/2022 12:03 AM
Nancy is my third least favorite politician and that list includes Putin and xi. But still, I do not approve of addressing her that way
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We are not partisans; not yet anyway.
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her nearly dying is a national security risk, you may not like her but she's got a vice grip on some members of Congress balls and we need her alive to tighten them.
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She also literally karen'd the national guard into doing their fucking Job when it was apparent both the "former president" and VP weren't talking. She's the defacto third in line should something happen to Biden and Harris
Black Magic 11/2/2022 12:05 AM
Said it better than me
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Also Nancy is a shrewd as fuck politician
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we need that shrewness
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Black Magic 11/2/2022 12:06 AM
She is that
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In a fashion, I look up to her in that sense. She knows what she wants and when and were to push the pedal
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Black Magic 11/2/2022 12:07 AM
Grandma been to the rodeo a lot of times now.
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yeah
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but if you wanna get shit done, she is the best person atm to do it
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provided she has stated to be working with bernie and progressives on a series of bills IF dems get the house and senate to legalize both voting rights acts and abortion as a right
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again
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we need her alive
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Black Magic 11/2/2022 12:08 AM
And I will restate again that we aren’t partisans—yet.
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GOP is the bigger threat
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literally
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Black Magic 11/2/2022 12:09 AM
It’s not time for partisan gangs yet. And hopefully never will be
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partisan gangs are for civil society
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Black Magic 11/2/2022 12:11 AM
We’re not currently on course for worst case scenario
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Believe that or not
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oh I know
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for now
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Black Magic 11/2/2022 12:12 AM
But we in a danger zone where it all go south real fast
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but as long as the current direction of the GOP is getting worse....
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Black Magic 11/2/2022 12:12 AM
I want them to try a coup. I want them to do it now
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They’d smash like bugs on a windshield if they do it now
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Biden would, with NO HESITIATION order to fire tbh. Man's left-liberal of the 80s but he lived through the cold war. I reckon he's shrewder then people realize.
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Black Magic 11/2/2022 12:15 AM
And that means I personally won’t have to… because let me tell you, an American civil war will more reassemble African war Lords senselessly murdering people than anything else.
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provided, my fear is some fuckhead like DeSatan (no, I will not call him by his real name) will drive up the crowd and someone gets lucky enough that Biden or Harris get killed
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Black Magic 11/2/2022 12:16 AM
I guess there would be a kind of karmic justice In that
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and the left might be unified for once
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but it would be absolute Hell
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I'm Californian
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I know every dumb fash fuck in red states want to kill me
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Black Magic 11/2/2022 12:17 AM
That’s the spirit
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especially given I'm female, disabled, mexican american and come from a comfy middle class house
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Black Magic 11/2/2022 12:17 AM
Smash the fash because they won’t hesitate to smash you
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Hence why I think punching a nazi is not enough
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especially given I'm female, disabled, mexican american and come from a comfy middle class house
Black Magic 11/2/2022 12:18 AM
Is it horrible that I want to find a South Park skit now?
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.....eh a little
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Black Magic 11/2/2022 12:19 AM
I’ll take it, I’m a jerk.
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I think South Park did unfortunately lead to the situation where people were more likely to not be taking the social political situation seriously until we got to this point
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but thinking about it, it does sound like a south park skit jfc
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Black Magic 11/2/2022 12:31 AM
South Park is and has been both amazing and terrible. Social justice is going to be an interesting topic for a long time and so will the earnest lampoons of it
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There is a wing of the left that really is terminally online; and they say and do ridiculous things that should be lampooned.
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But the right wing is basically immune to comedy because their world baseline is so absurd.
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I like Vaush
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Unironically. Though that’s obviously not a full throated endorsement of every thing he says or does. But in context, he’s really willing to tell people when they need to touch grass.
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I know every dumb fash fuck in red states want to kill me
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 11/2/2022 2:23 AM
Same but I can blend in by being CIS, white and straight.
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It's how I was able to purchase a Glock from my local VERY red gun store.
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Black Magic 11/2/2022 9:04 AM
they'd sell you a gun even if you walked in with colored piercings
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Black Magic 11/2/2022 3:55 PM
Every time I see or hear Tucker Carlson it strains my commitment to non aggression, almost to breaking.
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That guy is the result of some fucked up breeding program to create super douche bags. (edited)
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ANOTHER judge in Arizona ordered the forced removal of armed watchers at ballot boxes
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thechromatograph3r 11/2/2022 4:05 PM
Reminder to vote NO on Ohio issues 1 and 2
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Update: it was the same fucking judge who did a 180 on the armed watchers
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BubsyFanboy 11/3/2022 3:43 AM
Warsaw is working on "sealing" the border amid fears that Moscow is using it as a conduit for illegal migration. Poland recently completed a similar barrier along its border with Belarus after a standoff over migrants.
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Black Magic 11/3/2022 3:45 AM
Build.The.Wall
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But yea, Migrants have been used as a weapon by the kremlin in recent years.
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Yeah, especially with Belarus last year. Idk about you guys, but I'm not opposed to border walls themselves. Only reason why I don't support a border wall in the USA is because it is impractical. The most dangerous people across the southern border, the cartels and other criminal organizations, use tunnels anyways. As for the northern border, it is much more secure in general. In Europe, I believe they should've walked off Kaliningrad and Belarus starting in February. Especially Kaliningrad.
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I'm torn. I lean toward the "no walls no borders" ideology. People used to just be able to exist on the earth and go where they please. A wall like this though is purposefully built because their neighbor is an obvious aggressor.
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Choke it and squeeze it. Let nothing and no one pass through Polish, Lithuanian, or even 🇫🇮🇸🇪🇳🇴🇩🇰🇩🇪🇱🇻🇪🇪 land, airspace and Baltic Sea & Arctic/Northern Ocean territories from or to Russia, especially Kaliningrad. Although, this is economically impractical for many of them
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This is off topic, but I'd like to see what you guys think about my opinions here: Was [war/intervention] justified? Spanish-American: no WWI: yes Banana Wars: unsure but heavily leaning no (idk too much about them) WWII: yes, most justified overall Korea: yes, justified Vietnam: no Grenada: yes morally & strategically, but no legally Panama: no Gulf/Kuwait: yes, justified Somalia (1990s): idk Bosnia: yes Kosovo: yes morally, but no legally Afghanistan: yes, justified Iraq: no Libya: legally yes, morally no, not really Syria: no Yemen: no
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so, Justified US interventions (since 1898) imo: WWI, WWII, Korea, Grenada, Gulf/Kuwait, Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan Unjustified: All others
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Black Magic 11/4/2022 1:00 AM
One of the Hillarious and tragic, circus cluster fucks that will come from the Republican rule of 23
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is they will do everything in their power to undermine the U.S. economy including the Fed policy.
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Don't get me wrong Jerome Powell made this Fiscal mess; but he is atleast cleaning it up in a compotent way.
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Aggressive interest rate hikes fast forward the stag-flation phase of inflation driven crisis.
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Myabe this isn't the top of anyone's list of things.. but I have a premonition that amoung the 8-tent-64 ring cluster fuck we're in for. The Fed will be one of them.
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BubsyFanboy 11/4/2022 8:43 AM
Least schizo Fox News article
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New york won't go red
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not for a lack of trying
2:16 PM
but New Yorkers HATE their rural fellow statemen
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and New york has the cash
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I really hope that's the case
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Black Magic 11/5/2022 4:20 PM
They're cowards; and idiots. But if they really want to throw down, I am game.
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Apologies for the massive URL. Basically the polls you're seeing right now are from the right. GO VOTE!
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I certainly intend on it!
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Black Magic 11/5/2022 11:58 PM
I voted and I am volunteering at the polls on Election Day
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Nice, good luck and stay safe. You're going to need it
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Black Magic 11/6/2022 12:01 AM
I am in an area that I expect to be pretty safe
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But I am going there to make sure other volunteers stay safe
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A incoming storm might screw republicans in Florida
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BubsyFanboy 11/6/2022 2:27 AM
The Czech Republic is on the way to legalizing adult-use cannabis, and it aims to coordinate with Germany to share information and the best practices to regulate the legal industry.
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Shocking
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TheAnonymousDew 11/6/2022 3:22 AM
Everything is a "witch hunt" to Trump supporters
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LessthanLoneWolf 11/6/2022 4:15 AM
From Marc | If democracy prevails for another two years, it will be because of days like Nov. 3, 2022.
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Good news for once!
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BubsyFanboy 11/6/2022 8:15 AM
Some 33 people have been found to have traces of the illegal spyware Predator on their devices, including several members of the Cabinet, according to a newspaper report.
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BubsyFanboy 11/6/2022 9:07 AM
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Black Magic 11/6/2022 12:05 PM
I read your name wrong
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And I am not going to tell you how I read it.
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Dr_Diskette 11/6/2022 12:48 PM
busty femboy
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MisterStompy 11/6/2022 7:54 PM
A freelance journalist who has been published in @theintercept @Newsweek @PBS is using his verified account to impersonate me on Twitter. He spreads the Antifa lie (used to justify multiple attempts on my life) that I provided a list of targets to a neo-Nazi group. cc: @elonmusk
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Andy Ngo comes out in opposition to free speech.
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BubsyFanboy 11/7/2022 7:06 AM
🇮🇷 Islamic Republic of Iran assault on protesters: 314 killed 5,328 injured 14,170 arrested 🇺🇳 U.N. Human Rights Council reaction: 0 resolutions 0 emergency sessions 0 commissions of inquiry
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Taco Avenger 11/7/2022 9:14 PM
Kind of wild that Elon tweeted a meme of a Nazi soldier and then told his followers to vote Republican
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And their goes the advertising
9:18 PM
I mean Dude's foghorning nazis but legit I think he forgot advertising is low-key king online and he just made, again as a reminder, a 44 billion fucking dollar mistake
9:20 PM
Fuck Forbs outright stated Musk killed twitter
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Forbes*
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Auto correct WHY
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Twitter shareholders who got bought out are like 👀 🍿 🤣 🍹 🥳
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as someone who's old account lowkey somehow got fucked over (pre-musk. Somehow it couldn't verify my email) and a old school tumblr user, I'm enjoying the absolute thrashing Musk is getting on his platform (edited)
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Latest forecasts and polls for the 2022 Senate elections from ABC News’s FiveThirtyEight
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Track the Senate election with a red/blue map of the US updated daily using the latest state polls.
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Both EV and 538 say GOP has an edge on control of the Senate.
12:12 AM
Take all your people a-votin'
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already did
12:13 AM
fuck, my whole fam voted
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even down to my distant cousins in Chicago
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plus, the polls SHOULD be held under suspect
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admittedly, because ironically of the fcc under trump, spam calls shot up like crazy...and it effected polls
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so those answering polls are more likely those to answer spam calls
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which....historically tends to affect right wingers more
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On Tuesday, we will witness the last total lunar eclipse — also called a Blood Moon — until March 14, 2025. But, that’s not the only exciting thing about it.
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good night all.
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DAMNIT MAJORA, NOT NOW
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https://time.com/6227537/opt-out-school-lessons/ After the election, regardless of results, we need to combat this shit
Support for families opting out of school for differing politics is growing ahead of the midterms
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this is some propaganda fuckery
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I'm partial taking a cue from anti-Lukashenko tacts and airdropping manuals and "games" about anti-shitty parent fuckery
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LessthanLoneWolf 11/8/2022 12:42 AM
A lot of polls seem super right leaning too
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Fucking Blood Moon. That’s not ominous at all
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Alright who's job is it to fight the moon
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A lot of polls seem super right leaning too
see my comments above, polls are suffering right wing bias thanks to dems actively avoiding polls, either intentionally or unintentionally (Polls unintentionally mimic spam calls, and statistically, right wing people do tend to fall for scams more soooo...)
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another factor is, in 2020, even in blue states, there was attempts to identify and attack openly left wing voters, politicians and the like
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Election day barely opened and there's already a fucking bomb threat in Louisiana/New Orleans
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Reports across the board seem to indicate high voter turnout. Medium high is uncertain if not bad, but record high is good.
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https://www.nola.com/news/crime_police/article_4e879478-5f7e-11ed-bb99-4f26a34a9d9f.html Apparently Kenner (the polling area it represents) voted red last election....
Voters who usually cast their ballots at Kenner Discovey School will now be sent to Audubon Elementary less than two miles away after a bomb threat, officials said.
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A time-intensive absentee ballot process and a partisan divide in voting preferences could show Republican candidates ahead in early election returns.
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Rural, MAGA heavy counties are sparsely populated, so they tend to finish counting faster, making it look like GOP is winning, then the big slow population centers start reporting and their totals eclipse the rural sparse counties.
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oh definitely
1:26 PM
if early voting turn out hints at anything its gonna be a repeat of 2020
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bright red mirage...only for a decently sized blue wave to drown it out
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its same in California. Red counties tend to count sooner due to less population, but the blue and purple counties soon wash them out
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we saw a example of it during the recall Newsom coup attempt where rural counties wanted him gone, but San Bernadino, Los angeles and San Diego (SOMEHOW) collective votes shot the No to well over 60%
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that's a federal offense
1:38 PM
send in the national guard
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heinz_ketchup 11/8/2022 1:47 PM
the DOJ backed off. "ok sorry"
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when did DOJ get its balls cut off.
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hence the national guard
2:14 PM
If I was Biden, I would be threatening to cut off the DOJ's balls if they didn't do their job
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WojtektheBear 11/8/2022 3:40 PM
Ok. Still trying to wrap the head around what is going on and sort out the real from the not real. There are malfunctioning precinct tabulators out there, and one main issues is voters are not trusting that ballots will be counted if they are dropped into the secure slot.
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Smells like Republican ratfucking at a county turning Blue!
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Legit tho, they didn't test their shit out makes me Hellva sus (edited)
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BubsyFanboy 11/8/2022 5:20 PM
227 members of the 290-seat Parliament of Iran have called on the Judiciary to issue death sentences for people arrested during the ongoing anti-government protests. https://t.co/iFQsRNZDUj
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 11/8/2022 5:20 PM
How about we sentence those lawmakers to death instead?
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too late
5:23 PM
the protestors are probably in full "eat the rich" mode
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the protestors are probably in full "eat the rich" mode
BubsyFanboy 11/8/2022 5:25 PM
Or I guess "make your oppressor eat their own turban" (edited)
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fair enough, I imagine eat the rich ain't exactly....shit, what's the Muslim equivalent to Kosher?
5:26 PM
legit question
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I don't want to offend anyone accidentally
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BubsyFanboy 11/8/2022 5:27 PM
Either way, Iran's government is clearly going the same way they went in the past - crushing rebellions by slaughtering thousands of civilians. It worked before, so why not try now.
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fair enough, I imagine eat the rich ain't exactly....shit, what's the Muslim equivalent to Kosher?
BubsyFanboy 11/8/2022 5:28 PM
Halal, I think?
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because the masses are really really pissed Cause in point, France in the 1700s/1800s
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Yea I don't think mass executions will work this time
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plus the discontent has spread to one of their armed forces
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that's not a good sign for them
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And some of the police from what I could find
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WojtektheBear 11/8/2022 6:20 PM
They have absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain, especially for people who were very out in the streets. They’re marked for death.
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the most dangerous animal is a cornered one and all
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Hey guys, the midterm count is starting
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in SOME states
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usually red states who count mail ins (if they have them) counted last
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keep em counting
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get ready to protest/fight back if they try to stop shit early
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that's their game plan
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MisterStompy 11/9/2022 4:31 AM
lmao "red wave"
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eh, red splash in the house...but lost the senate at the rate we're going
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MisterStompy 11/9/2022 4:38 AM
@JohnFetterman John Fetterman do you like nu metal?
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Expect violence out of Arizona
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maricopa just finished counting but they need to verify tomorrow
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but stay safe ya'll
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WojtektheBear 11/9/2022 3:23 PM
@MattWalshBlog Premium cope. If this was the reason DeSantis won, you would have seen school board elections across the country flip that way. They flipped AGAINST the anti-trans candidates. PA went blue. Michigan too right after Republicans proposed life in prison for gender affirming care.
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This was a really good election for our Trans comrades too!
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LessthanLoneWolf 11/9/2022 3:36 PM
Hell yeah!
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Dems low-key dominated a LOT of local elections this year
5:41 PM
They learned from 2016/2020
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If I was a republican I've be cussing up a storm seeing normally red states get blue governors
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MisterStompy 11/9/2022 6:07 PM
when do we start
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This was a really good election for our Trans comrades too!
MisterStompy 11/9/2022 6:07 PM
A trans woman got elected to Montana's state congress
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Dr_Diskette 11/9/2022 6:40 PM
HYA
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weaponize the narcissist rage
8:56 PM
Why did I not realize Weird Al had put out some on-point political satire
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CBS here in California is stating that the GOP might be trying to ditch Trump for DeSatan
10:04 PM
They're getting word gop is looking for a fall guy for how badly this midterm went overall
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Get some popcorn and buckle in Shit is going to ensue
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RedMoonWarrior 11/9/2022 10:43 PM
Oh this song is the shit
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Black Magic 11/9/2022 10:49 PM
A study finds that people who eat and exercise the same amount as people 20 years prior are still fatter.
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An investigation of this is necessary and a national program to correct it is appropriate.
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TheAnonymousDew 11/9/2022 11:35 PM
I predict Trump's going to sabotage the Republican Party come 2024
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Aces high
Get some popcorn and buckle in Shit is going to ensue
TheAnonymousDew 11/9/2022 11:36 PM
The fascists may be destroying themselves?
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Potentially. Don't leave your guard down
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my hypothesis is that the republicans will eventually implode. The democrats will become the party of the right and we'll get a new Progressive party.
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Its a long road to that though
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Potentially. Don't leave your guard down
TheAnonymousDew 11/9/2022 11:39 PM
l won't
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my hypothesis is that the republicans will eventually implode. The democrats will become the party of the right and we'll get a new Progressive party.
TheAnonymousDew 11/9/2022 11:40 PM
Truth is letting the Evangelicals in did a lot of harm to the party
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yup
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and given Evangelicals are a selfish bunch, they WILL go crazy and force people to pay attention to their crazy bullshit
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Black Magic 11/10/2022 2:36 AM
FTX is major
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it's going to take Robinhood down with it
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might take Paypal down with it. (edited)
2:37 AM
Fuck.. Black Rock is going to take hits
2:38 AM
Coinbase is dead, it's already a zombie. (edited)
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What's going on?
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LessthanLoneWolf 11/10/2022 6:25 AM
So is Colorado going to have a runoff for Boeberts house seat? She’s trailing by 104 votes with 99% counted.
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I believe their rule is if no one wins by at least 0.5%, they do a recount, and then whoever has more votes wins. Even if it's just by a single vote. Lol the folks in CO right now who didn't vote are puckered up right now. Like it could literally come down to 1 stoner ski bum or 1 conservative cattle farmer's vote. I lived in her district for a few years. CO is fucking rad (edited)
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LessthanLoneWolf 11/10/2022 7:29 AM
@Steve Mike that’s literally going to be a razors edge then
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yup
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@Steve Mike that’s literally going to be a razors edge then
It's literally a difference of 60ish votes
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The sharpest of razors edges
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Taco Avenger 11/10/2022 8:27 AM
so he's bragging about only beating DeSSantis by 1.1m in a non-presidential race? If I were him I'd not be happy with that number. But then, I'm not a fucking moron (edited)
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98% in 160,451 to 159,315
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Winning by like 1,140
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Winning by like 1,140
For who?
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Boebert
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 11/10/2022 9:22 PM
God damn it.
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MisterStompy 11/10/2022 9:58 PM
White nationalist Nick Fuentes admits the election proves that "we are in the minority" and "that's why we need a dictatorship": "We need to take control of the media or take control of the government and force the people to believe what we believe." https://t.co/D0xIWZZcV9
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Bring it you un-American traitorous A-- hat!
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 11/10/2022 10:10 PM
What do you expect from someone who's openly fascist?
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Boebert
It's back to a dead tie again Fuck we might get two run offs
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Gen Z came out in huge numbers this election. Now, Republicans are trying to decide what the new voting age should be.
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It's back to a dead tie again Fuck we might get two run offs
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 11/10/2022 11:10 PM
At least Boebert isn't leading for now.
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Yup
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Maga Twitter is denying that Arizona going blue again
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TheAnonymousDew 11/11/2022 1:54 AM
All that does is delay the inevitable, jackasses
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Have they tried you know, ABANDONING social conservatism, the big thing alienating Gen Z voters?!
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Namely their anti-LGBTQ stances
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BubsyFanboy 11/11/2022 3:16 AM
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Mark Kelly still Senator of Arizona. Now it's Hobbs we're waiting for
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Akcja Demokracja zaprasza na antyfaszystowskie street party w Warszawie - włączające, wesołe, kolorowe. Dla wszystkich
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WojtektheBear 11/11/2022 10:57 AM
I've seen enough: Sen. Mark Kelly (D) wins reelection in #AZSEN, defeating Blake Masters (R).
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Google dropping the data ball this year
11:52 AM
They haven't updated recent wins
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Calls of DeSatan being a RINO are starting
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I'm sorry, Desatan a RINO?
3:07 PM
Are you sure we're thinking of the same guy? (edited)
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On twitter
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But base is starting to show signs of split
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archon
Are you sure we're thinking of the same guy? (edited)
DeSantis is being called a RINO by Trump Maga fans (edited)
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I'm sorry, what?? That makes no sense
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It's Trump nutjobs. It doesn't have to make sense
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But from what I'm gleaming, the GOP got low-key beaten the shit out of this midterm and most of Trump's candidates loss. DeSantis managed to make Florida a red state and sweep the state government
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And that's pissing the MAGA loyalists off I'm guessing?
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Very
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Enough that if maybe hit with a bit of disinformation, the gop will split
3:20 PM
Cause GOP wants to replace Trump with DeSantis and are about to learn a very valuable lesson in Narcissistic rage
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Aces high
But base is starting to show signs of split
heinz_ketchup 11/11/2022 3:23 PM
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Brace for it
3:25 PM
Hopefully it still after 2024
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Sticks*
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Provided that there is a 3rd party of gop who think DeSatan and Trump are teaming up to take out the RINOs with DeSatan as bait
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Maga is going against Mitch McConnell
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If I could see 20% of conservatives flock to the libertarian party, I would be so happy
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or a 3rd Trump lead party, causing the GOP deal with both Libertarian AND the Trump party!
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but if the MAGA nuts stay home especially in Run offs then Shit, Boebert really will for sure lose her job AND Walker loses
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TheAnonymousDew 11/11/2022 5:52 PM
The smartest political move the Democratic Party could make would be to subtlely fan the flames
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rathernot123 11/11/2022 6:41 PM
Or actually making good on promises
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or ideally both
7:27 PM
they can't make good until they get both
7:27 PM
that is a message they need to drill into voters
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rathernot123 11/11/2022 8:07 PM
People hear them that’s not the problems
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fuck the Nevada count is really close
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like....Masto is literally 0.1% behind her opponent
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only 95% counted
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ffffuck
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heinz_ketchup 11/12/2022 10:10 AM
Joanna McClinton, the new majority leader of the Penn State house, is my new favorite person in politics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1AgmueRp6s
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yo, some shits going on in Texas
9:34 PM
reports from Harris county are claiming their voting was sabotaged
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shit like "stop taking votes because lack of paper ballots"
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Fuckin' what
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Yeah
10:59 PM
Can't find any news story verifying it but it's spreading on Twitter and reddit, hence rumor mill shit
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Is fake. Do we need/want to mount an operation to stop fake news?
11:01 PM
Conservative lawyer George Conway and Former Trump administration official Alyssa Farah Griffin explain to CNN's Anderson Cooper why the former president's decision to invite investigators back into Mar-a-Lago is a sign of desperation.
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Big man needs a diversion.
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Or he's gonna drop blackmail on the gop on the net
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11:03 PM
Both are likely
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He could just do what he's always done and make shit up about his target. The cult will believe anything he shits.
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AarborneDivision 11/13/2022 9:21 PM
This is really interesting seeing the rift between America First and traditional Republicans. I wonder how many will be swayed from the Trump propaganda train now that they have a viable alternative? We'll see once elections start
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Or he's gonna drop blackmail on the gop on the net
AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/14/2022 2:06 PM
oh american politics
2:06 PM
so interesting to see
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/14/2022 2:21 PM
i feel you guys should look into something more than a two party system
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We would but that would require the gop to stop being a constantly unified shithead
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/14/2022 2:23 PM
true, but i feel like the democrat party covers a wayyy too big area as well if you catch my drift
2:25 PM
american politics really just feel like this to outsiders
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lmao yeah we'll just switch to something else
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/14/2022 2:37 PM
ik it's not easy but hey
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the suggestion is still valid
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we all want it but it won't happen
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/14/2022 2:41 PM
Y e p
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i know how it feels...
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JohnBrosGhost 11/14/2022 4:14 PM
So far, false claims of voting malfeasance have not incited the chaos that many had feared would ensue, stoked by a mythos of election fraud that's become a core belief for many on the right.
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The lack of any fatalities is legit a miracle
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JohnBrosGhost 11/14/2022 7:11 PM
Other than the dude in Ohio
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People are calling the AZ governor race. Hobbs has won it.
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MisterStompy 11/14/2022 10:39 PM
Expect violence in Arizona but still this is funny lol https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1592358184207151106
Arizonans know BS when they see it.
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CRYYYYYYYYYY
10:40 PM
just so everyone knows she had Proud Boys campaign for her
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Hobbs rn
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AIF Cuirassier regiment
american politics really just feel like this to outsiders
BubsyFanboy 11/15/2022 3:16 AM
tbf, you could say the same about many other countries' politics
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The only places where politics are quiet are in tiny countries
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BubsyFanboy 11/15/2022 3:28 AM
#BREAKING Iran issues first death sentence after 'riots': judiciary
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 11/15/2022 3:34 AM
Hopefully this only emboldens the protesters.
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The 15,000 thing is misleading
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They're not executing 15,000 people; they're merely making it an option for them. Hundreds will likely be killed though.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Hopefully this only emboldens the protesters.
Hopefully.
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BubsyFanboy 11/15/2022 6:40 AM
CORRECTION AFTER REPORTS: Although executions are legal now, they are reportedly only being used for killing policemen.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/15/2022 10:11 AM
midterms be like
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/15/2022 2:41 PM
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Dems gained a house seat in New Hampshire
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Oh god he's running again
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Not that we expected anything different (edited)
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Part of me says, Hell Yes, we'll whoop him again... but his cult members are going to be riled up, and dangerous.
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I'm hoping he's stupid enough to cause (or at least exacerbate) major splits and power struggles within the Republican Party
10:27 PM
stir up some more shit with DeSantis
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stir up some more shit with DeSantis
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I'm hoping he's stupid enough to cause (or at least exacerbate) major splits and power struggles within the Republican Party
AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/15/2022 10:46 PM
that oughta be fun to watch from down here
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“Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake”
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/15/2022 10:54 PM
gotta get the popcorn out
10:55 PM
ya'll will be the narrator
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/16/2022 5:33 AM
me
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 11/17/2022 12:40 PM
It's like Duterte but more retarded.
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Pelosi is stepping down as Dem leader. Personally, I think this is good. Get some one fresher in charge.
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Pelosi is only stepping down because she probably won't be speaker of the house...but to be fair, neither will Republicans
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Tougher penalties for dealers is based
2:25 PM
but this is still ridiculous
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Pelosi is stepping down as Dem leader. Personally, I think this is good. Get some one fresher in charge.
Good
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GOP have the house and are trying to do their bullshit
10:49 AM
oddly bold for a group who's lost the senate
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And pissed off roughly 50% of the population
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heinz_ketchup 11/18/2022 11:02 AM
the next 2 years are going to be endless investigations into Hunter Biden's laptop. get used to seeing MTG's shit-eating smiling face on TV non stop.
11:03 AM
i really hope the democrats give the repubs a taste of their own medicine. just ignore the congressional investigations. "what are you gonna do about it".
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or better yet, arrest them for treason
11:30 AM
given them losing the senate means that dems can do their own investigations
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the next 2 years are going to be endless investigations into Hunter Biden's laptop. get used to seeing MTG's shit-eating smiling face on TV non stop.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/18/2022 11:44 AM
why is he so often investigated?? I'm curious
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AIF Cuirassier regiment
why is he so often investigated?? I'm curious
heinz_ketchup 11/18/2022 12:07 PM
why are you here? so far all your comments are pro-russia, anti-ukraine, and now you are pushing republican fascist talking points
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/18/2022 12:20 PM
I am very not pro Russia, I still support Ukraine but short comings and mistakes are there to be improged
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heinz_ketchup 11/18/2022 12:20 PM
ah, dodging the question
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/18/2022 12:21 PM
Plus I come here to verify info that I don't know if it's real or not
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heinz_ketchup
ah, dodging the question
AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/18/2022 12:21 PM
I don't know because I am not fully involved in american politics
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heinz_ketchup 11/18/2022 12:21 PM
some people are saying James Lynch is a fascist stooge who loves Russia. is it true? just asking questions and trying to verify info.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/18/2022 12:22 PM
No, I fucking hate the Russian government and what it has done to just about everyone
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heinz_ketchup 11/18/2022 12:22 PM
are some people saying James Lynch is a dishonest liar? just trying to verify info (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/18/2022 12:23 PM
I don't know I am not glued to the discord screen 24/7
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Hunter should be investigated by a bipartisan or independent commission. So should Donald Trump and his kids. But that won't happen. It's always one or the other and always partisan. At least it's better than nothing at all (edited)
1:24 PM
Although, to be fair, the 1/6 Committee tries to be bipartisan and does have some Reps on it but the Republican leadership/establishment try to sabotage it
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heinz_ketchup
some people are saying James Lynch is a fascist stooge who loves Russia. is it true? just asking questions and trying to verify info.
Quit acting so childish
1:29 PM
Talking about a Ukrainian atrocity while also emphasizing support for the Ukrainian cause does not make one inherently pro-Russian
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Hunter should be investigated by a bipartisan or independent commission. So should Donald Trump and his kids. But that won't happen. It's always one or the other and always partisan. At least it's better than nothing at all (edited)
AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/18/2022 1:35 PM
Ah, I see now, thanks for the information
1:35 PM
my question is why though
1:35 PM
i barely know stuff about hunter
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Something about shady business dealings from what I remember
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/18/2022 1:36 PM
I see, I remember seeing some news headlines about him and some oligarchs but that was as far as I knew
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Yeah
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/18/2022 1:36 PM
Seems interesting, he should be investigated then
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I mean look, of course the Republicans are going to hop on anything bad regarding Democrats, but that doesn't mean we should give said Democrats a pass
1:37 PM
I suppose corrupt Dems are better than corrupt Reps
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/18/2022 1:37 PM
100%
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and in the long term, anything that gives Reps support would be bad
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/18/2022 1:37 PM
If there is something I hate is definately double standards
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they affect just about everyone
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But we can't let Dems get away with shit just because of that
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Yeah
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/18/2022 1:37 PM
the democrats and republicans should be held to tbe same standard basically
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Ofc. Although I personally prioritize getting corrupt Reps out over corrupt Dems
1:42 PM
like if I had the power to decide whether to investigate (and possibly arrest afterwards) Trump or Hunter, I'd pick Trump (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/18/2022 1:43 PM
Fair, it seems to me that corruption within the republican party is far more sinister
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Indeed
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/18/2022 1:55 PM
What would you expect from the party that holds the turtle man
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It's also openly declaring war on democrats They're pissed dems won the senate so they wanna try to remove the president and fuck over Ukraine. Despite not having the votes for
2:25 PM
And their "patron" Russia is losing. Horribly
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BubsyFanboy 11/18/2022 2:31 PM
From the start of the Iranian uprising up until November 17: 381 : murdered protesters 57 of which were under the age of eighteen 16088 : the estimated number of detainees 2097 identified detainees (excluding the students) 497 detained students 50 dead security forces 990 urban and universitaire gatherings 146 protesting cities 140 protesting universities
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/18/2022 2:52 PM
Wow
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MisterStompy 11/18/2022 3:35 PM
lol
3:35 PM
he's gonna have nobody left on his side by the end of the year
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/18/2022 3:37 PM
ladies and gentlemen the 1 good desition he made
3:37 PM
to be fair alex is far too busy with court cases
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heinz_ketchup 11/18/2022 4:57 PM
The Kenosha shooter appeared to stoke his right-wing celebrity ambitions with a weird Capitol photo.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 11/18/2022 5:10 PM
Oh for god's sake.
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"murdering liberals"
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"murdering liberals"
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 11/18/2022 5:24 PM
It's why the GOP idolizes him. It has nothing to do with self-defense.
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Well yeah ofc
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 11/18/2022 5:25 PM
They have a perfectly legitimate case of self-defense with Mr. Dicken but you don't see them trumpeting his name all over the place.
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Elisjsha Dicken?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 11/18/2022 5:29 PM
Ye.
5:29 PM
I always fuck up spelling his first name so I just say "Mr. Dicken".
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I guess his parents couldn't decide between Elisha and Elijah
5:30 PM
You're right though
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/18/2022 5:38 PM
goddamn
5:39 PM
If I remember correctly one of them was an extremist or something, but I don't know since this happened a while ago y'know?
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The guy isn't a murderer
5:46 PM
But he shouldn't be idolized
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/18/2022 5:47 PM
yeah
5:47 PM
shame what happened
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He still broke the law by not calling 911 immediately (edited)
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Nah. Kyle's a murderer. His hometown are all accomplices to his murder.
5:51 PM
They should be dealt with as soon as possible
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Did you even watch the videos
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If I remember correctly one of them was an extremist or something, but I don't know since this happened a while ago y'know?
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 11/18/2022 5:52 PM
Rosenbaum (the first guy Kyle shot) was definitely trying to pick a fight. The other two thought they were dealing with a mass shooter.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/18/2022 5:52 PM
Ah
5:52 PM
got it
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Someone shot a gun behind rosenbaum
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 11/18/2022 5:53 PM
It's just a mess all around.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/18/2022 5:53 PM
i can tell
5:53 PM
educating myself on the manner when it happened was...a pain
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 11/18/2022 5:55 PM
Even if it was technically in self-defense, I can't really say I agree with Kyle's motives for being there.
5:55 PM
Plus there's those pictures of him posing with the Proud Boys floating around.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/18/2022 5:56 PM
never saw them
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It was one of the clearest cases of self defense I've seen on video
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heinz_ketchup 11/18/2022 6:00 PM
Rittenhouse is a murderer. He went there carrying a weapon illegally with the intent to murder and he did so.
6:01 PM
the rest is all disingenuous semantics by the far right hate machine to justify killing people it doesn't like
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Go back and watch the videos of him there
6:05 PM
He was not the one picking fights; people like Rosembaum were. He wasn't chasing anyone; he was running from people chasing him. He didn't even shoot first ffs. Being inside the city while holding a gun is not a valid reason to be attacked. What you do with the gun is what matters (edited)
6:08 PM
He basically stood around outside some car dealership and some restaurant, scrubbed some graffiti and tried to put out a dumpster fire started by another group of people. That is the "threat" he posed. That is the "intent to murder" he had. If he didn't have a gun, things would've probably played out in a similar manner except he probably would've been beat up or killed. It's the same reason many people on the other side, including a guy he shot, had a gun. To defend themselves if they were attacked (edited)
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I don't know of similar situations with left-wingers defending themselves, but if I were shown any, I guarantee you I'd support them
6:21 PM
Anyways, Rittenhouse should've been charged for two things: 1. Illegally having the gun 2. Not calling 911 immediately after the first incident
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I don't know of similar situations with left-wingers defending themselves, but if I were shown any, I guarantee you I'd support them
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 11/18/2022 6:21 PM
I forget his name but there was one antifa guy who shot a right-winger that was harassing him at a protest.
6:22 PM
He was later killed by police and Trump himself bragged about it.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/18/2022 7:51 PM
found this in another server XD
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Does this make DeSatan Quint?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/18/2022 8:22 PM
I have no idea
8:22 PM
i just thought the gif was funny
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/18/2022 8:57 PM
Bad news, Andrew and Jordan Peterson are back on Twitter thanks to Elon
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Anyways, Rittenhouse should've been charged for two things: 1. Illegally having the gun 2. Not calling 911 immediately after the first incident
LessthanLoneWolf 11/19/2022 1:09 AM
Definitely illegal possession of a firearm, and probably transportation over state lines as well
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MisterStompy 11/19/2022 1:30 AM
Kyle Rittenouse is an asshole, but he's not a murderer. He's a stupid kid that acted like a tryhard and got extremely lucky. The last two people he shot didn't know he wasn't a mass shooter, and he didn't know they thought he was a mass shooter. The fact of the matter is that he's also not a "hero" either. I don't think the security guard who shot that Biker For Trump who was attacking a news crew is a "hero" even though he was much less stupid and reckless, because - to sound cliche - he was just doing his job.
1:32 AM
But no, anybody who calls Rittenhouse a "hero" and lives vicariously through him is sad, and you should stay away from them because they're going to do some dumb, dangerous shit. Also as a side note, I lost any remaining sympathy I had for him when he went all in on the media shit. Plus there's that video of him punching a girl in the back of the head a bunch of times, that doesn't look good either.
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Also Reinhol or whatever his name is, the guy that shot the Patriot Prayer/Proud Boy guy in Portland and ended up getting extrajudicially hunted by deputized Portland cops? I also think he operated under self defense, but I hesitate to call him a hero as well. That being said I would never have convicted him, and I don't think any Portland juror would have voted "guilty" even if it was blatantly obvious murder just based on the fact that the guy he shot was Patriot Prayer.
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Also Reinhol or whatever his name is, the guy that shot the Patriot Prayer/Proud Boy guy in Portland and ended up getting extrajudicially hunted by deputized Portland cops? I also think he operated under self defense, but I hesitate to call him a hero as well. That being said I would never have convicted him, and I don't think any Portland juror would have voted "guilty" even if it was blatantly obvious murder just based on the fact that the guy he shot was Patriot Prayer.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 11/19/2022 2:10 AM
That's the one.
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heinz_ketchup 11/19/2022 8:55 AM
Kyle Rittenhouse is a murderer who walked because he is a white right wing male. https://youtu.be/G9AEE8NaEDw
8:58 AM
I'm amazed at how many Rittenhouse apologists and bootlickers are in here
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I'm amazed at how many Rittenhouse apologists and bootlickers are in here
Because we watched the videos of what happened. It was self-defense 100% and it's ridiculous to say it wasn't just because he went there when violence was going on or because he went there with a gun
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and I guarantee you that a lot more people who say it wasn't self-defense or that it was murder would be defending him if he was a left-winger with a left-wing group
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/19/2022 12:02 PM
double standards are the norm in politics afteral
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Kyle Rittenhouse is a murderer who walked because he is a white right wing male. https://youtu.be/G9AEE8NaEDw
BubsyFanboy 11/19/2022 1:28 PM
You know, it does remind me how when Kyle tried to cut himself off the MAGA crowd at one point, they have suddenly cared little about him
1:28 PM
It was after he began grifting that he started getting positive attention from the red caps again.
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I remember when he went on Tucker Carlson saying that if he were a Black man or a member of another minority group, he probably would've been crucified. (edited)
2:03 PM
and they didn't edit it out of the interview or anything; they actually aired him saying that
2:03 PM
a little surprising lol
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/19/2022 2:10 PM
Wow, that's quite surprising for them
2:10 PM
but Kyle has a point there
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That's the thing
2:14 PM
He's not really that much of a typical right-winger, but he appeals to them and he gladly takes their money and their publicity and everything
2:15 PM
He's not a left-winger either though, don't get me wrong
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/19/2022 2:15 PM
I would understand the money, you gotta keep the lights on and the water running somehow right?
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I guess. It depends on the extent imo
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/19/2022 2:16 PM
Yeah
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I haven't kept up with what he's been up to outside of the incident and the trial
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/19/2022 2:17 PM
Same, I only stuck around for that
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but I'm sure there's some questionable things. I mean hell, going on Tucker Carlson is questionable, but he likely got money for it and he praised BLM and pushed their talking points and Fox viewers didn't totally rip him apart
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/19/2022 2:18 PM
Two steps forward one step back i guess
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inb4 "but carrying a gun to a riot isn't questionable?!?" It was illegal and he shouldn't have done it, but he went with the intent of defending and aiding people and property, while the people who tried to attack him went there with the intent of destroying property and attacking people. Rosenbaum, the first guy, who led the chase after him and ended up getting shot, was seen lighting a dumpster on fire and pushing it towards a car lot while someone from Rittenhouse's group extinguished it. He was seen picking fights with people too. He chased Rittenhouse for nothing and caused others to follow suit, with one shooting a gun in the air during it. Had Rittenhouse not had a gun, he probably would've beaten or killed him. How the hell was this asshole not in the wrong at all? But that's just "bourgeois fascist MAGA talking points" or whatever the fuck to some people.
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I digress
2:24 PM
His involvement with Republican/conservative organizations and individuals is morally questionable, although arguably he is using them for their money
2:24 PM
which is scummy, but it's draining funds from people who would otherwise use said funds for worse shit than giving some guy a legal defense and a college education (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/19/2022 2:24 PM
The issue with Kyle really comes in the aftermath of the whole situation I guess
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inb4 "but carrying a gun to a riot isn't questionable?!?" It was illegal and he shouldn't have done it, but he went with the intent of defending and aiding people and property, while the people who tried to attack him went there with the intent of destroying property and attacking people. Rosenbaum, the first guy, who led the chase after him and ended up getting shot, was seen lighting a dumpster on fire and pushing it towards a car lot while someone from Rittenhouse's group extinguished it. He was seen picking fights with people too. He chased Rittenhouse for nothing and caused others to follow suit, with one shooting a gun in the air during it. Had Rittenhouse not had a gun, he probably would've beaten or killed him. How the hell was this asshole not in the wrong at all? But that's just "bourgeois fascist MAGA talking points" or whatever the fuck to some people.
Rosenbaum was the unarmed guy he shot in the head after he stopped running from Rittenhouse... Pretty clear that Kyle was the aggressor at that point. And after that point he was now an active shooter in the middle of a riot. Self defense applies only to the moment you are in danger... with Kyle chasing him (not being chased by him) even if the roles had been reversed prior, it becomes manslaughter or murder.
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Good example... someone comes to your door threatening you or someone in your home... if you confront them while unarmed, then leave the situation to get a firearm, if you then kill them it's not self defense unless they escalate in another way. Self defense requires a person be unable to safely extract themselves from a situation. Kyle chasing that man down was certainly capable of going a different direction and removing himself from the situation.
3:07 PM
A persons self perception is immaterial for the determination of murder, he might not have seen himself as an active shooter, but he'd already killed someone and went on to kill another and wound a 3rd. Self perception and motivation are necessary for determination of premeditation... but the act itself stands on it's own. He shot a guy who'd been running from him in the head. End of story.
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He stopped, steadied himself, took aim, and shot. No one charging at him in the period of time it took him to do that. The victim stopped and turned around and died.
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After that his life was forfeit, anyone and everyone around him had a responsibility to stop him from killing another person. Two people were shot trying to do exactly that, a risk they took to do what they saw as necessary.
3:12 PM
Obviously the "justice system" thought he was justified. But any reasonable person can know that if they murder someone there is going to be a price to pay for it. He didn't pay that price. Instead he got fame and money. That isn't justice. (edited)
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BubsyFanboy 11/19/2022 3:16 PM
Serbian Prime Minister Ana Brnabic said Singapore will support Serbia's membership in the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN).
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/19/2022 3:18 PM
interesting
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Would have sworn they were going to formally align with India and China like the fash they are.
3:21 PM
Not that ASEAN member states have all that great a track record.
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BubsyFanboy 11/19/2022 3:43 PM
Wasn't ASEAN supposed to make the region a little less dependant on the two?
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But since we're on the subject of bad track records... https://twitter.com/simonchilds13/status/1593650956071321604?s=19
Tory Councillor Andy Weatherhead: ‘I completely agree that the optics of these pictures is poor.’ The pictures:
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/19/2022 3:47 PM
hey Mosley is back
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So it's been revealed Alito was likely the leaker of both the Hobby Lobby ruling (confirmed) and very likely Roe (implied)
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Both are technically impeachable offenses Just saying as a incentive to reclaim the house and expand the Senate
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Rosenbaum was the unarmed guy he shot in the head after he stopped running from Rittenhouse... Pretty clear that Kyle was the aggressor at that point. And after that point he was now an active shooter in the middle of a riot. Self defense applies only to the moment you are in danger... with Kyle chasing him (not being chased by him) even if the roles had been reversed prior, it becomes manslaughter or murder.
Rosenbaum was running at him; he was never running from him. The main thing that caused Rittenhouse to fire was another guy chasing him firing a gun in the air, but he was behind Rosenbaum.
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Both are technically impeachable offenses Just saying as a incentive to reclaim the house and expand the Senate
AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/19/2022 5:16 PM
that is pretty big
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But since we're on the subject of bad track records... https://twitter.com/simonchilds13/status/1593650956071321604?s=19
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Rosenbaum was running at him; he was never running from him. The main thing that caused Rittenhouse to fire was another guy chasing him firing a gun in the air, but he was behind Rosenbaum.
Umm the video clearly shows Rittenhouse chasing Rosenbaum, Rosenbaum stops between two cars after tossing a grocery bag over his shoulder, Rittenhouse lines up on the space between the cars, raises his gun takes aim, Rosenbaum turns around at the same time or maybe slightly before, and Rittenhouse fires. I watched that video a hundred times that night, and morning. At no point is there evidence Rittenhouse was being chased immediately prior to him shooting Rosenbaum. And if there was a guy with a gun chasing him... he might have self defense shooting that guy... but he shot an unarmed man after chasing him... and it's all on camera. Self defense DOES NOT extend beyond the immediate threat nor to anyone who isn't threatening even if they had been prior.
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Enough time had passed from the time Rittenhouse enters camera frame to the time he runs from killing an unarmed man that any "immediate threat" would have manifested itself. And I can damn well tell you that if I was within line of sight with a weapon when he killed Rosenbaum, I'd have taken the shot before he got moving again.
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I'll rewatch the video but I'm 99% sure Rittenhouse was being chased. He was never chasing anyone
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Okay let's say for the sake of argument that an armed individual stops to confront someone chasing him. The individual chasing him stops forward motion and has no weapons. Shooting the individual is not self defense either. There is no obvious threat.
5:25 PM
Even if there was a mysterious other armed person chasing him... the clean kill would be the armed pursuer not the unarmed one.
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There was an armed person chasing him who shot, but Rittenhouse panicked and shot the one closest to him (Rosenbaum)
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Manslaughter, not self defense.
5:26 PM
If you shoot the wrong person, it is manslaughter.
5:27 PM
Some places don't have manslaughter but 3rd degree murder.
5:27 PM
The outcome is roughly the same.
5:28 PM
But once someone is so negligent as to shoot an unarmed individual in the head, they are obviously a threat to innocents and must be disarmed or killed before they kill anyone else who doesn't deserve it.
5:29 PM
You are making excuses for someone who shouldn't have had a gun, took the life of an unarmed man, and shouldn't have even been there in the first place. Why? (edited)
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I'm not "making excuses," I'm explaining why I think it was self-defense. You have changed my mind a little on Rosenbaum though; perhaps it was manslaughter. Murder though? Hell no. My point is that Rittenhouse was no threat at all. He didn't do anything that night to incite violence unless you think being present and being armed is "inciting violence," which is what the people chasing him (except for like Rosenbaum, who was not armed with a gun) were doing as well. Rittenhouse was always running away from these people (except for when he fell and was on the ground, in which case he was down but trying to get up and run away) and yet somehow these said people who pick fights with him and chase after him after lighting fires and shit are "victims." Rosenbaum didn't deserve to die, but it's pretty fucking stupid to lead a small mob to chase an armed guy who did nothing and then cry the victim when you get shot. Rosenbaum had absolutely no reason to chase after Rittenhouse and yet he did it anyways. This might sound contradictory, so let me make this more clear: Rosenbaum did not deserve to die, but it was understandable why Rittenhouse killed him. I still think it's self-defense to a large degree, but I'm open to the possibility that it should've been considered manslaughter. Sure, Rittenhouse should've fired in the air or fired at the person who did fire first, but a situation like that is not as clear and simple as one might think. You're being chased by a small mob in the middle of a riot and hear gunshots coming from said mob, what the fuck would you do? I guess you could call the cops but they're already pretty preoccupied trying to keep the rest of the damn city under control.
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And I notice it is almost always political when people have an opinion on this. I'd say like 90% of people I've talked to believe it was self-defense. The remaining 10% are all solely left-wingers. Every right-winger I've talked to believes it was, and about 75-85% of left-wingers I've talked to believe it was too. (edited)
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and that is part of why I care about it
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I'm not "making excuses," I'm explaining why I think it was self-defense. You have changed my mind a little on Rosenbaum though; perhaps it was manslaughter. Murder though? Hell no. My point is that Rittenhouse was no threat at all. He didn't do anything that night to incite violence unless you think being present and being armed is "inciting violence," which is what the people chasing him (except for like Rosenbaum, who was not armed with a gun) were doing as well. Rittenhouse was always running away from these people (except for when he fell and was on the ground, in which case he was down but trying to get up and run away) and yet somehow these said people who pick fights with him and chase after him after lighting fires and shit are "victims." Rosenbaum didn't deserve to die, but it's pretty fucking stupid to lead a small mob to chase an armed guy who did nothing and then cry the victim when you get shot. Rosenbaum had absolutely no reason to chase after Rittenhouse and yet he did it anyways. This might sound contradictory, so let me make this more clear: Rosenbaum did not deserve to die, but it was understandable why Rittenhouse killed him. I still think it's self-defense to a large degree, but I'm open to the possibility that it should've been considered manslaughter. Sure, Rittenhouse should've fired in the air or fired at the person who did fire first, but a situation like that is not as clear and simple as one might think. You're being chased by a small mob in the middle of a riot and hear gunshots coming from said mob, what the fuck would you do? I guess you could call the cops but they're already pretty preoccupied trying to keep the rest of the damn city under control.
There are types of murder, as I said in some states 3rd degree murder takes the place of manslaughter. Don't get hung up on the word. A lot of people assume murder requires premeditation and that's simply not accurate legally.
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and that is part of why I care about it
I've seen other things, for example, where like someone will run at a cop with a knife and get to shot to death and the whole thing could be on camera, yet a small segment of the left will defend the attacker and demonize the cops and treat it as if it were real police brutality against an innocent person. It's ridiculous. Everyone else recognizes it for what it is, but it's just this small section of left-wingers that basically say "2+2=5"
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There are types of murder, as I said in some states 3rd degree murder takes the place of manslaughter. Don't get hung up on the word. A lot of people assume murder requires premeditation and that's simply not accurate legally.
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But a whole motherfucking lot of people are absolutely ignorant of legal definitions... so I'm not surprised a whole lot of people think it was self-defense. A whole lot of people are wrong about what constitutes self defense.
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And I notice it is almost always political when people have an opinion on this. I'd say like 90% of people I've talked to believe it was self-defense. The remaining 10% are all solely left-wingers. Every right-winger I've talked to believes it was, and about 75-85% of left-wingers I've talked to believe it was too. (edited)
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 11/19/2022 5:59 PM
Exactly. I can say that while it was technically self-defense, I still think Kyle shouldn't have been there and that he was a dumb kid in way over his head.
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Exactly. I can say that while it was technically self-defense, I still think Kyle shouldn't have been there and that he was a dumb kid in way over his head.
I've already proven how it's not self defense. He was under no immediate threat. In a firefight if you shoot someone without a gun while under threat by someone with one... you die.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 11/19/2022 6:01 PM
"Under no immediate threat"? A fucking mob was screaming "Get him!" and "Get his ass!".
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Had someone shot him while he was pausing after killing Rosenbaum... then he'd have been under immediate threat. He wasn't. And Rosenbaum wasn't a legally speaking assailant for the purpose of self defense.
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You are mistaken about what immediate threat means. We're talking seconds. Not minutes... no one shot him after he shot Rosenbaum, no one was shooting at him afterward... therefore no one was in a position to be an immediate threat. (edited)
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"Under no immediate threat"? A fucking mob was screaming "Get him!" and "Get his ass!".
Is that supposed to make me feel sorry for him "having to shoot" an unarmed man who was no longer advancing on him?
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I've been chased by multiple people at once with them screaming that... but usually "Get that n**ger lover!!!" Or replace the n word with faggot or some other insult. No one died as a result... but I did get my first concussion. (edited)
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Either you or them or both of you not having a gun at the time is probably why no one died, but I don't know the situation
6:34 PM
I'd assume someone yelling that would've killed you if they had a weapon
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and I'd assume you would've defended yourself if you had one
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Either you or them or both of you not having a gun at the time is probably why no one died, but I don't know the situation
Hate to break it to you but you can kill with chains and pipes and fists... it just takes more determination.
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I know
6:39 PM
I'm just saying it's much more likely if someone had a weapon (edited)
6:42 PM
especially a firearm
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Immaterial, a mob we never see, a gunshot we never hear, commands never recorded, never comes upon two people after they've stopped running, and the "threat" of that mob never manifests in evidence. And the individual who supposedly fired the "threatening shot" never shows up to make good on that threat, and thus isn't the one shot in the head. Everything after stems from shooting someone not threatening him in the head. Assuming it was a mistake, it is manslaughter not self defense, it's also evidence that suggests he was absolutely incapable of handling a firearm properly thus shouldn't have had it in the first place. If he'd been beaten by the mob, or even killed it would have been tragic... instead he's a hero to fash and a case law precedent which will be specifically applicable to defending white people from consequences of killing protesters.
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In the head? It's all on video
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I don't know what video you're watching
6:59 PM
You can see the people chasing him, you can see and hear the shot
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Are you now claiming that Rosenbaum was holding a gun or advancing upon Rittenhouse?
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I never was, because that's not what happened
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Okay then, not self defense.
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Someone else shot. I don't remember the guy's name but I don't think he was even charged with anything
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Give the time stamp of the video where the other person shoots at Kyle.
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Because the video I watched showed no gunshots other than the one that hit Rosenbaum.
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Ideally, if you were in his situation, what would you do? I think I'd shoot in the air (this is hypothetical of course, I can't say for sure what I'd do and same for you and so on) to deter them but I don't know
7:01 PM
Let me get a vid
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I wouldn't be in Rittenhouse's position. But, in some off chance I was, I'd find cover, maybe fire a warning shot if I didn't immediately spot the individual with a firearm, but I would not otherwise fire till someone raised a gun. Oh my mistake... I was speaking of the dude he killed earlier by shooting him in the head.
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No, the timestamps I sent
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Are from before he even shot
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It's in this order: No one shot, Rosenbaum chases Rittenhouse and others follow suit, Someone chasing him fires, (first shot) Rittenhouse turns around and fires a few times, killing Rosenbaum (first time Rittenhouse shot)
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I wouldn't be in Rittenhouse's position. But, in some off chance I was, I'd find cover, maybe fire a warning shot if I didn't immediately spot the individual with a firearm, but I would not otherwise fire till someone raised a gun. Oh my mistake... I was speaking of the dude he killed earlier by shooting him in the head.
That makes sense
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That's what he should've done
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Warning shots
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Okay yeah that is the shooting in question... the gunshot was not on camera. This "mob" is mostly bystanders following the action, not chasing Kyle directly.
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The sound of it was recorded, but there was no evidence it impacted anywhere near Kyle... and obviously wasn't from Rosenbaum.
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Yeah ofc. Rosenbaum didn't shoot, which is why I could see this being a case of manslaughter
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And I may have been wrong. I thought the shot was captured on video
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It may have been a different angle, or I was just wrong altogether (edited)
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So we're agreed, Rosenbaum's death was most likely Manslaughter or 3rd Degree Murder (depending on the state). But regardless of which, it's not self defense. It was a kid who shouldn't have been there with a weapon he shouldn't have had, who didn't have the mental faculty or training to make the right decision which led to the death of Rosenbaum and one other and the permanent disability of a third.
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Immaterial, a mob we never see, a gunshot we never hear, commands never recorded, never comes upon two people after they've stopped running, and the "threat" of that mob never manifests in evidence. And the individual who supposedly fired the "threatening shot" never shows up to make good on that threat, and thus isn't the one shot in the head. Everything after stems from shooting someone not threatening him in the head. Assuming it was a mistake, it is manslaughter not self defense, it's also evidence that suggests he was absolutely incapable of handling a firearm properly thus shouldn't have had it in the first place. If he'd been beaten by the mob, or even killed it would have been tragic... instead he's a hero to fash and a case law precedent which will be specifically applicable to defending white people from consequences of killing protesters.
This wasn't a case of someone merely "killing protesters" though
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The entire incident was incited by Rosenbaum and others
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I don't see anyone just going to a protest or riot, killing random people and getting off totally free with this case as precedent
7:16 PM
If no one had chased Rittenhouse and if no one had shot before him, but he still shot and killed them, he would've been locked up and not just for mere manslaughter / third degree murder (edited)
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If no one had chased Rittenhouse and if no one had shot before him, but he still shot and killed them, he would've been locked up and not just for mere manslaughter / third degree murder (edited)
What did Kyle do to piss off a bunch of protesters?
7:17 PM
You telling me he was just standing in front of the business he was "protecting" when they chased him away from it?
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Because I thought that business was where he was running towards, not away from.
7:19 PM
What was he doing away from his guard post in the first place?
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There's a video of a guy in his group putting out a fire in a dumpster being rolled by some people with Rosenbaum's group
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What was he doing away from his guard post in the first place?
Cops wouldn't let him go back to it
7:19 PM
They told him to go away, so he went to a different lot where there were allegedly fires
7:20 PM
You can see him running there with a fire extinguisher at one part of the WaPo vid I sent, and Rosenbaum walking there after him
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They told him to go away, so he went to a different lot where there were allegedly fires
Okay what was he doing away from his post before the cops wouldn't let him back?
7:21 PM
Why'd he abandon his post in the first place to walk around a protest armed?
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I think they left to put out that dumpster fire but I don't remember. I'll have to rewatch a vid on the events of the entire night
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Lacking wisdom or discipline to maintain his post when a relatively harmless fire is set. Likely garnering the ire of those who set the fire in the first place in the process.
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What I see is an idiot who wanted to play hero and ended up killing an unarmed man.
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That's my point. They were probably mad at him because he put out a fire they started
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That's not being an "idiot"
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You talk as if he is a soldier with orders
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He was there with a paramilitary organization. He was an armed combatant with order to protect a business.
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Now the organization that let him join in that shares a lot of responsibility. But being a fascist org... it's not surprising that they put an underage kid in a position with a weapon to kill protesters.
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He was an armed citizen and I'm pretty sure he was there with a couple friends who ended up coming across a group that let him tag along
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What "fascist org" are you talking about?
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He was there with the blessing of the militia that brought people up there to protect that business.
7:28 PM
I can't remember the name of it, but his mother was a member of it at the time.
7:31 PM
The same group that staged the Capital protest in Madison a few days before.
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I've found references to a Facebook page called "Kenosha Guard"
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The same group that staged the Capital protest in Madison a few days before.
Three Percenters? Oath Keepers?
7:34 PM
"Kenosha Guard" is the only group I can find and it seems to be loosely organized
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Yeah that matches what I've been looking up.
7:35 PM
Loosely organized blue lives matter right wing gun nuts... who self identify as a militia.
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You come off as the type of person who calls nearly everything to the right-of-center "fascist"
7:36 PM
As far as I can tell, he wasn't a member of the group but showed up and they let him tag along
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If they modify the US flag in violation of the flag code to remove the colors which have important meaning and replace it with a blue line... they are fascist hate to break it to you.
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There's nothing fascist about breaking the flag code
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It's just being unpatriotic, which most people often do unknowingly
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The purpose of doing so is important. They place police over citizens.
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You come off as the type of person who calls nearly everything to the right-of-center "fascist"
I have things to do. This was the end of the enjoyment of this for me. But I would suggest you explore the pipeline from local to national fascist organizations. Hint: It begins with small local right wing groups.
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I did not mean that as an insult
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I know it could easily come off as one
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Acknowledged.
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I have things to do. This was the end of the enjoyment of this for me. But I would suggest you explore the pipeline from local to national fascist organizations. Hint: It begins with small local right wing groups.
I'll look into it
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MisterStompy 11/19/2022 7:59 PM
"Defendants argue that, under this Act, professors enjoy 'academic freedom' so long as they express only those viewpoints of which the State approves," Judge Mark Walker writes. "This is positively dystopian."
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A bit late on that but about d--- time regardless
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A bit late on that but about d--- time regardless
MisterStompy 11/19/2022 8:01 PM
it's incredibly wholesome how you censored "damn"
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I'm not being sarcastic I really think that
8:01 PM
Makes me feel much lessa cynical
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that is some good work
MisterStompy 11/19/2022 8:02 PM
The vast majority of these anti LGBT laws are very blatant violations of the 1st amendment. From restricting preferred pronouns to banning public drag shows.
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Actually now that I think about it drag shows aren't necessarily an LGBT thing, I know straight drag queens exist.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/19/2022 8:05 PM
drag queens are often viewed differently
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down here it's the same
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we are rather far behind on the whole LGBT thing, hell the equivalent of the F slur is still accepted by a lot of people, but we've had a couple of celebrities that are drag queens
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We already have laws about public indecency, public nudity, corrupting minors, etc. yet some naïve people genuinely believe that there is an issue with kids seeing adult things at LGBT+ events and nothing being done about it
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(It goes without saying, but the majority of the right, however, is not naïve about this and straight-up know that the whole purpose is to drive LGBT+ people and things underground)
10:44 PM
as for this law
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It's designed in a very specific way. The "eight points" look mostly unobjectionable to any normal person
10:47 PM
but we know damn well it's just going to be used to limit certain curriculums that aren't even racist
10:48 PM
Glad the judge isn't stupid stupid enough to go along with the law (edited)
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Wtf
BubsyFanboy 11/20/2022 2:31 AM
Indeed. At least the Tories kicked him out though.
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Black Magic 11/20/2022 5:26 AM
I imagine the CIA is working on it.
5:27 AM
Takes time for plausibly deniable things to happen.
5:31 AM
In the meantime let us know if there’s anything we can do.
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DPIK is a little suspicious (edited)
10:35 AM
They sided with Saddam in the 1980s war
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The enemy of my enemy.
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True
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I imagine the CIA is working on it.
Yep. One of the few times where I'm glad the CIA is doing this kind of shit
10:43 AM
Iran is going to come out of this severely weakened. I don't think it will collapse though
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Democrat Adam Frisch concedes race against Lauren Boebert as it goes to recount
Ouch
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MisterStompy 11/20/2022 1:08 PM
I'm not going to say anything other than the person who runs LibsOfTiktok's info is available online. All I'm gonna say. https://twitter.com/Esqueer_/status/1594355784955174912
Hours after a mass shooting in Colorado at a LGBTQ bar, Chaya Raichik decided to double down and go after a Colorado org that does drag. This is exactly what she wants, mass violence against LGBTQ people. She's a terrorist.
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Black Magic 11/20/2022 1:41 PM
Who runs that Twitter?
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I assume it's Chaya Raichik
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MisterStompy 11/20/2022 4:29 PM
Anderson Lee Aldrich was identified as the suspect accused of perpetrating a mass shooting at Club Q
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Does it seem like a pattern that a lot of the recent mass shooters are in their early 20's?
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By Glenn Thrush and Matt Richtel
Six of the nine deadliest mass shootings in the United States since 2018 were by people who were 21 or younger, a shift from earlier decades.
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I thought so. BTW, how does one read these pay-walled articles? I know there's some trick but I can't remember
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I thought so. BTW, how does one read these pay-walled articles? I know there's some trick but I can't remember
AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/20/2022 6:53 PM
pay wall articles are straight up dangerous
6:53 PM
they can easily be used to suppress information without being obvious about it
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I'd rather they just plaster the site with ads
6:54 PM
Im not paying every newspaper a subscription
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/20/2022 6:55 PM
yeah, at least with adds one can ignore them somewhat
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Black Magic 11/20/2022 7:32 PM
Capitalism ruins everything I guess
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I forgot this was paywalled
7:39 PM
sites say "x free articles remaining" and I don't even pay attention
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I assume most anti-fascists have seen this at this point, but this is VERY much how this is happening. https://youtu.be/P55t6eryY3g (edited)
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Little side note, Proud Boys give a decentralized structure that does give direction to these partially or fully radicalized people, but it's done through suggestion and what if directions... "what if you go try to stop that drag book reading at libraries?" But largely the direction these shooters need is just the oft repeated statements that "a group" is a fundamental danger to us and it'd be great if they were redacted. And this occurs even in the outer layer gateway talking heads, Fox News, and GOP politicians right on broadcast TV. One former Fox News Anchor retired out of shame when it was made clear that his radicalized monologues led to a massacre. Even if there is no serious mental illness at work within them (often there is, because fuck giving people mental health care without them being wealthy already) these suggestions can send these people into planning mode. Qanon got how many people killed because of the suggestion that a Pizza shop was a hub for trafficking minors? And the examples abound. But it's not limited to young people, how do you think so many Boomers, GenXers, elder millennials, and veterans got into the Alt Right variation of fascism? Same place... online communities. Guntube is FILLED with gateway guntubers... even one of my formerly favorite ones started throwing in some fash buzzwords and slowly exposing himself as fash leaning. But this was dozens or hundreds of videos in to my watching him... and the comments section showed just how many folks were not opposed to those buzzwords. (edited)
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MisterStompy 11/21/2022 2:49 PM
There's rumors but absolutely no confirmation that there are Serbian and Kosovar militias staring each other down on the border between the two countries over this. Keep in mind if Serbia invades Kosovo, there will be retaliation by NATO. KFOR still operates there, and they have stated that they will respond with lethal force against any Serbian military personnel that crosses the border. https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1594753338675200000
⚡️From tomorrow, the Kosovo police will start enforcing the planned fines to citizens who have cars with Serbian license plates in Kosovo
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For those who don't know what KFOR is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo_Force
The Kosovo Force (KFOR) is a NATO-led international peacekeeping force in Kosovo. Its operations are gradually reducing until Kosovo's Security Force, established in 2009, becomes self sufficient.KFOR entered Kosovo on 11 June 1999, two days after the adoption of UN Security Council Resolution 1244. At the time, Kosovo was facing a grave humanit...
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/21/2022 3:13 PM
oh dear lord
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things are about to go down in the balkans
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/21/2022 5:32 PM
We would very much like to be excluded from this narrative.
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MisterStompy 11/21/2022 7:20 PM
The comments are just top shelf here https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1594824656133013504
“Therefore, we will be identifying the victims by how they identified themselves and how their families have loved and identified them.”
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Tensions happen on occasion between Serbia and Kosovo
8:17 PM
like we've had "oh shit, are they about to go to war?" moments a dozen times in the past few years
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And it's usually been over this stupid license plate bullshit
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/21/2022 8:18 PM
we are on a decade of great military tension afteral
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between global powers that is
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COLD WAR 2 BAYBEE
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/21/2022 9:14 PM
this time
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it's even more awful
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I don't doubt it. I just try not to lose hope that something good is on the other side
9:16 PM
Even if that other side is very very far away
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/21/2022 9:16 PM
i'll drink to that
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US/NATO diplomacy with Russia since 1991 has been a failure
11:56 PM
led to them totally turning away from us around 2007
11:58 PM
Some people back then had foresight. They wanted to treat Russia with more respect, integrate them with the rest of Europe and the West more and so forth. But most people in power usually said "fuck it, let's kick em while they're down and take advantage of them and get richer"
11:58 PM
all it did was instill a deeper hatred for us that was initially dying off
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I'd say over the past few years, the loose (extra emphasis on loose here) enemy/rival sphere has been this: 🇨🇺 🇳🇮 🇻🇪 🇧🇴 🇧🇾 🇷🇺 🇷🇸 🇦🇲 🇪🇷 🇿🇼 🇱🇧 🇸🇾 🇮🇶 🇵🇸 🇾🇪 🇮🇷 🇰🇿 🇰🇬 🇹🇲 🇺🇿 🇹🇯 🇦🇫 🇵🇰 🇧🇩 🇱🇰 🇳🇵🇲🇲 🇨🇳 🇱🇦 🇰🇵 (edited)
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Most of em hated us regardless and will hate us no matter what we do
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Russia could've been salvaged in the '90s and early 2000s
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MisterStompy 11/22/2022 12:08 AM
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BubsyFanboy 11/22/2022 3:57 AM
9 months ago, I was expecting Zelensky to be dead any minute. He is now on his third British Prime Minister.
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Lmao
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True
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US/NATO diplomacy with Russia since 1991 has been a failure
AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/22/2022 6:01 AM
what did you people do exactly to piss them off, I:d asume it's bad since that was the Bush period
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BubsyFanboy 11/22/2022 7:07 AM
Polish far-right: How dares the Ukraine glorify Bandera! Also polish far-right:
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/22/2022 7:17 AM
pretty sure bandera had actual plans for genocide (edited)
7:17 AM
franco had a 'Dictasuave'
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The demographic decline in Poland is not due to women's alcohol consumption, no matter what Polish conservatives would like to believe.
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Alcohol moment
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BubsyFanboy 11/23/2022 6:02 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/Polska/comments/z2nedq/comment/ixhm3ja/ Polish far-right glorifying the return of pro-apartheid murderer Janusz Waluś
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MisterStompy 11/23/2022 6:24 PM
This is the booking photograph of the Shooting at Club Q suspect.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/23/2022 6:26 PM
I was wondering how they managed to easily beat the shit out of the dude, no wonder
6:27 PM
does his state still have the death penalty?
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does his state still have the death penalty?
MisterStompy 11/23/2022 6:30 PM
idk, it's fairly obvious he's claiming nonbinary so he can avoid hate crime charges, so maybe?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/23/2022 6:30 PM
yeah that move is more than obvious
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MisterStompy 11/23/2022 6:30 PM
either way, strongest Matt Walsh viewer vs weakest transwoman
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/23/2022 6:31 PM
honestly if it's not death, then he should get life
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MisterStompy 11/23/2022 6:31 PM
just put him in the room with that vet and lady again lol
6:32 PM
keep in mind all that damage was done to him while he was covered in body armor
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including a riot helmet
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/23/2022 6:39 PM
he must've gotten a real hard beating
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deserved it too
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Colorado does not have the death penalty, it was abolished entirely.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/23/2022 8:41 PM
then he deserves life
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BubsyFanboy 11/24/2022 4:24 AM
https://businessinsider-com-pl.translate.goog/gospodarka/nie-bedzie-odblokowania-inwestycji-w-farmy-wiatrowe-na-ladzie-zamiast-tego-wraca/g92w1he?_x_tr_sl=pl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pl&_x_tr_pto=wapp
The United Right has so far failed to find a compromise in the internal dispute over the unblocking of investments in onshore wind farms, according to Business Insider Polska. It turns out that Solidarna Polska not only does not agree to the provision of maintaining a minimum distance of 500 m from the windmill to the buildings, but also does not want changes in the so-called distance setting. Therefore, it is doubtful that the bill will be considered at the next sitting of the Sejm. On the other hand, significant changes in the energy policy of the state are being prepared and coal is to return to favour.
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BubsyFanboy 11/24/2022 7:28 AM
A court fines the far-right leader's party and calls its complaint "bad faith".
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Get fucked
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Bigoted murderer gets absolutely shit on
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It's a shame they didn't beat him up worse
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/24/2022 8:54 AM
less gooo
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#BREAKING Hungary postpones approving Finland and Sweden NATO accession to next year: PM
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They're the last ones to approve of it afaik. Maybe them and Turkiye
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/24/2022 8:26 PM
Goddamn it
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Hungary and Turkey aren't pro democracy with their current leaders. The fact they're still in NATO and Hungary in the EU with no repercussions is baffling
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Kicking them out would only serve to harm the alliance
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More importantly, it, at least for now; is a check on their foreign policy.
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I'm not saying kick them out, I understand they're important allies in NATO, but not at least trying to limit autocratic rule in both countries can also harm, albeit inside the alliance (edited)
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Idk how we should go about it though
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https://www.politico.eu/article/sweden-finland-nato-turkey-erdogan-magdalena-anderssonkurdish-rights/amp/ Turkey forcing Sweden to end support of the Kurdish is a prime example of what I'm talking about. Erdogan treats them like human trash and demands Sweden do the same, despite what the Kurdish have done for NATO.
Turkey’s demand that Sweden and Finland extradite 33 people looks set to heavily delay NATO membership bids by Stockholm and Helsinki.
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It's not an easy situation by any means, I know, but it's still a travesty
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https://www.politico.eu/article/sweden-finland-nato-turkey-erdogan-magdalena-anderssonkurdish-rights/amp/ Turkey forcing Sweden to end support of the Kurdish is a prime example of what I'm talking about. Erdogan treats them like human trash and demands Sweden do the same, despite what the Kurdish have done for NATO.
Turkey does more to justify hate of NATO than any single other country US included (and that's a damn tall bar to exceed).
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MisterStompy 11/25/2022 1:54 PM
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MisterStompy 11/25/2022 2:14 PM
The one time you want the CIA to coup a country and they won't.
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The one time you want the CIA to coup a country and they won't.
BubsyFanboy 11/25/2022 2:15 PM
A NATO member? That would create trust issues and cripple the whole alliance
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A NATO member? That would create trust issues and cripple the whole alliance
MisterStompy 11/25/2022 2:16 PM
They are effectively working against NATO. Their current behavior is crippling the alliance.
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They are effectively working against NATO. Their current behavior is crippling the alliance.
BubsyFanboy 11/25/2022 2:17 PM
But direct military action is still the most destabilising thing the US can do, concealed by the CIA or not.
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And mind you, it's not that I want Orban in government
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He is an autocrat still
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But direct military action is still the most destabilising thing the US can do, concealed by the CIA or not.
MisterStompy 11/25/2022 2:17 PM
Having Orban slip on a banana peel isn't military action, it's called doing a little trolling
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MisterStompy 11/25/2022 2:38 PM
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/25/2022 6:36 PM
Ladies and gentlemen
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I am proud to say that for the first recorded time in United states history
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a politician has said the word 'Mommy milkers' with serious intent
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we hope this is not the last time
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I will gladly attend liberal thanksgiving if I got some mommy milker mac and cheese
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/25/2022 6:40 PM
God fucking A-RIGHT
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Also just stuffing?
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Do conservatives not eat stuffing?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/25/2022 6:42 PM
idk what stuffing exactly is
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Its just like, bread and spices you fill the turkey with
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/25/2022 6:44 PM
Odd
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but yeah I'd guess conservativws would love stuffing
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It's something a lot of people enjoy, why single that one thing out?
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What is this mans lore for his hatred for stuffing (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/25/2022 6:46 PM
I have no idea
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 11/25/2022 9:56 PM
Stuffing killed his family.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/25/2022 9:57 PM
lol
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Stuffing killed his family.
This is what happens when you are yelling at mom demanding food be served but the Turkey still has 3 hours to cook, so she pulls it out and serves it early.
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This is what happens when you are yelling at mom demanding food be served but the Turkey still has 3 hours to cook, so she pulls it out and serves it early.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 11/25/2022 10:09 PM
Never listen to Sam and Ella.
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Where can I find this mommy milk? Asking for a friend
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I mean the answer to that is in the question.
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MisterStompy 11/27/2022 2:52 PM
Biden, asked about Trump dining with White supremacist Nick Fuentes: “You don’t want to hear what I think.”
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I sometimes want to study liberals to fully understand their capacity for lack of awareness of the role they play in fascism.
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I sometimes want to study liberals to fully understand their capacity for lack of awareness of the role they play in fascism.
MisterStompy 11/27/2022 3:27 PM
Yeah I know.
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MisterStompy 11/27/2022 9:40 PM
I'm not getting my hopes up too much, but this is promising.
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China has instituted way too many measures to control the population and even kill them if need be. Those people taken are probably disappeared. It'll take more than 10 deaths in a fire and a factory strike to make Han Chinese take the old ways of overthrowing their dictators.
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MisterStompy 11/27/2022 11:01 PM
mfw right wingers say "the military will side with us in a civil war!" https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/z6ixlg/bolsonaro_supporters_have_been_asking_for/
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Nothing too graphic but I think the Brazilian army shot a few Bolsonaro people because they decided to get goofy
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Okay so that's a bit much, nevermind. Looks like what happened is Bolsonaro people tried to storm what is essentially the equivalent of a National Guard barracks and got hit point blank with less lethals.
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I have a lot of info on military response to insurrection in the States... spent a LONG time talking to officers I know on the subject explicitly. They would see militias/civilian defense forces like Indigenous Forces... they have ROE they expect IF to follow... right wingers will not follow it.
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That's the short version.
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Though Right wing governors could arm paramilitaries from state arsenals... whereas lib governors would not arm anti-fascists from them. Same goes for NG support.
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MisterStompy 11/27/2022 11:47 PM
At least they're getting rid of LGBT teachers and lessons about slavery. You know, the real dangers to children. https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/trafficking-investigation/fl-ne-sex-trafficking-investigation-dcf-group-foster-homes-20221127-aej4qtliafeubelqxr2u7hsdya-story.html
A year-long investigation by the South Florida Sun Sentinel exposed the complicity of Florida’s child welfare system in underage sex trafficking. Evidence found in government databases, state and federal lawsuits, interviews with victims and survivors and foster care records shows the state's foster system creates a pipeline of vulnerable girls ...
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At least they're getting rid of LGBT teachers and lessons about slavery. You know, the real dangers to children. https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/trafficking-investigation/fl-ne-sex-trafficking-investigation-dcf-group-foster-homes-20221127-aej4qtliafeubelqxr2u7hsdya-story.html
Yeah... there are a lot of capital crimes that aren't officially capital crimes but should be. It's really shocking that more people aren't just vigilantes at this point... That's just one state, it's happening elsewhere. And it's not just girls who are targeted.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 11/28/2022 12:44 AM
"Corporate Communism"
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Wat.
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Black Magic 11/28/2022 1:38 AM
When Faust's bargain ran its course; and he knew it was time for the devil to take his due. Faust ran, and hid, from the devil. So clever he was; but the Devil always gets his due. Trump was a deal with the devil. Now the Nazis are open, and proclaim them selves un ashamed. Now the "base" cannot be controlled or cowd. Now a war is coming because evil men will not be satiated with the blood of 5, or 10, or 30. Their long knifes moan to be let loose into the streets.
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BubsyFanboy 11/28/2022 5:01 AM
BBC Statement on Ed Lawrence
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Yeah, we just need to beat the COVID out of him 🤡
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BubsyFanboy 11/28/2022 7:26 AM
Chinese protesters have turned to blank sheets of paper to express their anger over COVID-19 restrictions in a rare, widespread outpouring of public dissent that has gone beyond social media to some of China's streets and top universities.
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A spike in antisemitism, violent protests and politically fueled mass shootings is happening because the U.S. far right is losing, and lashing out.
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"Corporate Communism"
AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/28/2022 9:16 AM
These people love diversion, create a fake probken to distract fron the real one AND THEY'RE TERRIBLE AT IT
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/28/2022 10:08 AM
And honestly, yeah, Corporations can get wayy too powerfull, but it's far from fucking communism, that ideology of corporations having more control is obviously libertarian
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Black Magic 11/28/2022 1:06 PM
I'd counter.
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Corporatism is definitely the ruling ideology
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and it has effects, and structures not unlike communist party governments.
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Sprawing bland,brutalist architecture... check
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Starving citizens? Check. Long lead times for basic care? Check.
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cartoonishly corrupt officials.. Double plus check
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/28/2022 1:26 PM
Corporatism is honestly up there with fascism in the 'I hate these ideologies list'
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Corporatism is honestly up there with fascism in the 'I hate these ideologies list'
BubsyFanboy 11/28/2022 4:25 PM
Anyone who doesn't profit off it and cares the slightest about politics will hate it.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/28/2022 4:28 PM
Mhm
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BubsyFanboy 11/28/2022 4:34 PM
Apple has released a software update limiting the use of AirDrop in China in light of recent protests. AirDrop was being used by protesters to transmit info directly phone to phone, bypassing the Great Firewall of China.
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Students from the elite school Tsinghua University protested with Friedmann equation. I have no idea what this equation means, but it does not matter. It's the pronunciation: it's similar to "free的man" (free man)—a spectacular and creative way to express, with intelligence.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/28/2022 6:31 PM
the hell is this man defending against
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as far as i can tell a 9mm is more than enough
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Corporatism is honestly up there with fascism in the 'I hate these ideologies list'
It's a variant of fascism. Law Enforcement in the US works primarily and predominantly for corporate interests... everything from protecting their property to brutalizing their employees when they strike, to locking up people on false charges to increase prison slave labor force.
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It pretends it isn't because ostensibly the corporations are not allied with one another through a political party... but they are through industry thinktanks and executive groups.
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MisterStompy 11/28/2022 9:05 PM
BREAKING: Kanye West RAGE QUITS Tim Pool's show after Tim Pool pushed back on Ye's antisemitism
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/28/2022 9:22 PM
goddamn
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 11/28/2022 9:30 PM
Imagine having that fragile an ego.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/28/2022 9:35 PM
celebrities am i right?
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Dude displays pretty solid vulnerable narcissist traits. Also possibly Borderline Personality... but almost certainly related to serious childhood trauma. He probably has let black nationalist talking points influence his deranged manifestation of what the world is.
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rathernot123 11/29/2022 1:12 AM
More than 400 groups on Monday called on Congress to intervene in an ongoing railroad labor standoff that threatens to idle shipments of food and fuel and strand rail travelers while inflicting billions of dollars of economic damage.
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rathernot123 11/29/2022 1:14 AM
I would disagree they are pushing the line. More and more of their ideas are going more and more mainstream
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Imagine having that fragile an ego.
BubsyFanboy 11/29/2022 7:12 AM
Yup. In hindsight, the Saint Pablo tour meltdowns were just a warning sign of what was to come.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/29/2022 4:24 PM
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I recognize that face, That's Sargon of Akkad from youtube, that f---.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/29/2022 8:01 PM
Y'know, I was this 🤏 close to becoming an Elon stan back in mid 2019, thankfully, I got out of that group really quickly
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Y'know, I was this 🤏 close to becoming an Elon stan back in mid 2019, thankfully, I got out of that group really quickly
I thought back in 2010 or so that it would be cool to sit down and geek about space and my design for a hoverbike with him over beers. But that's as far as I got.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/29/2022 8:03 PM
Yeah
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It was until I saw an article on how the dude was a piece of shit to some magazine photographers, the cybertruck and the electric truck that I realized that oh yeah, this guy is fucking stupid, and a dick
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I got out as soon as I got in basically
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I got out as soon as I got in basically
There are some people who allow their trauma to excuse their toxic behavior, and in the same way there are some who excuse their toxic behavior with neurodivergence. He's the latter.
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I got out as soon as I got in basically
I applaud your willingness to take new information and extricate yourself from that fandom.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/29/2022 8:09 PM
Getting out of stuff like stan culture or far right stuff is really hard to do, and the luxky ones are those who get out early
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/29/2022 9:23 PM
The hell is this
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Konfederazia I think. Pro Russian party in Poland (edited)
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That boot must be mighty tasty.
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Hey, if anyone was wondering what Biden was urging congress on passing ASAP https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/15/business/railroad-union-deal-terms/index.html
Freight railroad unions and management reached a tentative deal to avert a strike, addressing a key attendance policy that had been holding up the deal.
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Democratic leaders say they could act as soon as this week after President Joe Biden on Monday called on Congress to pass legislation "immediately" to avert a rail shutdown by officially adopting a September tentative agreement approved by labor and management leaders.
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MisterStompy 11/30/2022 12:03 AM
@BadLibertarians Has featured LPNH as bad libertarians many times, but how can they be bad when the Communist party of China recognizes them as stunning and brave?
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joe hill’s revenge 11/30/2022 12:05 AM
What do the Chinese characters mean
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What do the Chinese characters mean
MisterStompy 11/30/2022 12:06 AM
CCP officials are praising the LPNH, which is the headquarters of the far right Mises Caucus that recently took over the Libertarian Party
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CCP officials are praising the LPNH, which is the headquarters of the far right Mises Caucus that recently took over the Libertarian Party
joe hill’s revenge 11/30/2022 12:07 AM
Who is the CCP official? The guy with the bullet pfp
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And what r they praising them for
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And what r they praising them for
MisterStompy 11/30/2022 12:08 AM
For shitting on US assistance to Ukraine
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For shitting on US assistance to Ukraine
joe hill’s revenge 11/30/2022 12:10 AM
And who is the official
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And who is the official
MisterStompy 11/30/2022 12:10 AM
idk, some member of their equivalent of congress or something
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joe hill’s revenge 11/30/2022 12:15 AM
Libertarians
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R pathetic
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MisterStompy 11/30/2022 12:21 AM
I mean we shouldn't be surprised at all
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I mean we shouldn't be surprised at all
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 11/30/2022 12:26 AM
Fucking r/shitliberalssay is nothing but this.
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And it makes me unbelievably mad.
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MisterStompy 11/30/2022 12:32 AM
In other news, the Pedo Screamers are now calling each other pedophiles (they're both probably right) https://twitter.com/Esqueer_/status/1597692810798342144
James Lindsay and An Open Secret are now in a flame war calling each other groomers. The people who baselessly call everyone groomers are turning on each other. This is so pathetic but hilarious.
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Good, let them tear eachother apart
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I mean we shouldn't be surprised at all
joe hill’s revenge 11/30/2022 12:38 AM
The sad thing is that they r almost right
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China isn’t a threat to our freedom
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They are
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Ehhhhh. Not really. But the pose long-term strategic threats to the US (edited)
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The Chinese have an authoritarian system just as they've always had. But this kind of system would be difficult to implement and nearly impossible for them to enforce here. They don't really even want to enforce it here afaik, and they don't really seem to care whether we have it or not. (edited)
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The threats the Chinese government poses to us are more practical
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They want to steal our military secrets, our industrial secrets, our blueprints and whatnot
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and they want to maintain influence over the Indo-Pacific region
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I think they accept US influence over S. Korea and Japan, but that's as far as they're willing to go. They want Australia to be more neutral or favorable towards them, they want us as far away from Taiwan as possible and they're trying to keep us out of Indochina and Malaysia & Indonesia
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They want to put politicians friendly to them in power here
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those are the main threats
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/30/2022 8:31 AM
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who's gonna tell him
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BubsyFanboy 11/30/2022 3:21 PM
Oh, this unhinged man.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/1/2022 12:48 AM
The Biden administration has indicated it will appeal to the decision to the Supreme Court.
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BubsyFanboy 12/1/2022 4:32 AM
JUST IN - EU threatens Elon Musk with Twitter ban unless the platform sticks to strict rules and police content, the Financial Times reports.
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Nothing like whittling away at the will of the people. HJR 6 is like a rash. It’s not gonna go away and gonna keep coming back. We need to mobilize around this. This is a non-partisan issue and massive overreach by extremists to continue their campaign to disenfranchise their opponents and undermine American bedrock democratic principles.
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MisterStompy 12/1/2022 1:53 PM
kanye west has lost his fucking mind.
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MisterStompy 12/1/2022 2:30 PM
THEY FINALLY DELETED IT
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What did they delete?
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What did they delete?
BubsyFanboy 12/1/2022 3:31 PM
the message you're seeing
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LessthanLoneWolf 12/1/2022 3:36 PM
He’s fucked in the head
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THEY FINALLY DELETED IT
LessthanLoneWolf 12/1/2022 3:37 PM
Screenshots live forever
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the message you're seeing
Thanks
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joe hill’s revenge 12/1/2022 5:05 PM
It’s the especially for me
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Well s---. Everyone get ready
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Fuck them, strike on
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God I love this song.
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BubsyFanboy 12/2/2022 5:26 AM
A spokesman for the armed group said its leader Abu Hasan al-Hashimi al-Qurashi, killed ‘in combat’.
Wednesday’s announcement that IS leader Abu al-Hassan al-Hashimi al-Qurashi was killed in October caught many by surprise, but sources tell VOA the US confirmed his death with DNA, other evidence shortly after it happened
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/2/2022 6:24 AM
The government wants to spend 5 million on christmas decoration and a parade, yet we can't have clean streets ffs
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BubsyFanboy 12/2/2022 7:46 AM
https://www-gazetaprawna-pl.translate.goog/wiadomosci/kraj/artykuly/8601233,wielki-glod-ukraina-sejm-upamietnienie-rocznica.html?_x_tr_sl=pl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pl&_x_tr_pto=wapp Polish parliament voted in favor of a declaration of Great Famine recognition. For - 442 Against - 1 Abstained - 0 Absent - 17 (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/3/2022 1:46 AM
Even Matt Walsh thinks Kanye has lost it.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/3/2022 1:55 AM
Though Ben Shapiro doesn't. (edited)
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Fucking hell.
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BubsyFanboy 12/3/2022 11:30 AM
A violent brawl broke out in Senegal's parliament on Thursday after a male opposition lawmaker slapped a female colleague in the face, television footage showed, amid growing acrimony between ruling and opposition party politicians.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/3/2022 12:16 PM
Gotta love a good legal rat fight
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/3/2022 12:16 PM
Now this
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this is good news
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/3/2022 3:06 PM
Stay the fuck away from Brazil, Elon. They have enough problems as it is.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/3/2022 3:32 PM
LATAM does not need another fucking banana republic
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go back to your mansion and wear your stupid little top hat
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BubsyFanboy 12/3/2022 3:45 PM
It's a shame Taylor is still being associated with this man, but I guess if there's any time to do this, it's near the 13th anniversary of the 2009 VMAs mic-grab.
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(13 being Taylor's fav number)
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BubsyFanboy 12/3/2022 4:23 PM
https://www-wprost-pl.translate.goog/polityka/10988932/premier-morawiecki-o-liberalach-zyj-i-nie-dawaj-zyc-innym-tak-jak-oni-chca.html?_x_tr_sl=pl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pl&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Morawiecki argued that we live in times of a great geopolitical breakthrough. He said that Europe must choose between the position of the player or the object of play. In his opinion, it has been played by Russia for the last 15 years. - Today, on the lips of neoliberals, the slogan "live and let others live" is transformed into "live and do not let others live as they want, just order them to live according to one canon, the neoliberal canon, usually left-wing." And we don't allow it," he said.
More conflating neoliberalism with left-wing politics. Thanks, Morawiecki!
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BubsyFanboy 12/3/2022 5:23 PM
The government sought to organise postal elections during the pandemic but courts have found some elements of those efforts to have been illegal.
Previously, all groups in Poland's parliament had expressed support for the resolution calling Russia a state sponsor of terrorism.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/3/2022 5:31 PM
The fuck is going on over there in Poland?
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States being states.
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The newly added text said that Russia was “directly responsible for…the crash of Polish Air Force Flight 101 in Smolensk, Russia in April 2010 in which 96 people on board were killed, including the President of Poland, Lech Kaczyński” and other high-ranking Polish officials.
Didn't their investigations find nothing?
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I mean, I'm still suspicious of it
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but I thought the Polish government looked into it and couldn't find anything directly incriminating Russia
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and now PiS wants to directly, fully blame Russia for it
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but I thought the Polish government looked into it and couldn't find anything directly incriminating Russia
BubsyFanboy 12/4/2022 1:16 PM
And indeed, they've found nothing. Back in 2011 (under the PO-PSL government), the sub-commission regarding the Smoleńsk tragedy had concluded that a big part of the tragedy were a bunch of errors made by the pilot crew.
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The fuck is going on over there in Poland?
BubsyFanboy 12/4/2022 1:18 PM
Cynicism, that's what.
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feels.....relevant
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/4/2022 4:28 PM
Well, if that doesn't just say it all.
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The Sheriff's Office says they haven't found a connection between protests over a drag show and the attacks on the power substations.
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more deets on those attacks on power stations
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TheAnonymousDew 12/4/2022 6:16 PM
So here's a list of all federal crimes Trump committed while President: Tax Evasion Wire Fraud Seditious Conspiracy Stealing federal documents Illegal espionage Treason (not certain, but plausible) Obstruction of Justice Election fraud Conspiracy to commit election fraud
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/4/2022 6:19 PM
he's rich so the first two are almost....mandatory
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TheAnonymousDew 12/4/2022 6:20 PM
I say treason as a plausible crime only due to the possibility of him selling US state secrets
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rathernot123 12/4/2022 9:41 PM
Corse the republican failed elector who softly claimed that she knew who it was then went on a tirade against the event and queers. Hmmmm must be something else /j (edited)
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BubsyFanboy 12/5/2022 6:41 AM
The Chechen opposition Telegram feed 1ADAT on December 5 said it had confirmed that blogger Tumso Abdurakhmanov had been shot dead and that his brother, Mukhammad Abdurakhmanov, was under the protection of Swedish security forces.https://t.co/o9EZLy8Uoz
A prominent critic of Chechen strongman leader Ramzan Kadyrov has been killed in Sweden.
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BubsyFanboy 12/5/2022 8:30 AM
Iran has a long history of using child soldiers to fight its wars. More than 30 years after the end of the Iran-Iraq war and 25 years si ...
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/5/2022 9:08 PM
so you're telling me we could not go 3 years into the 21st century without genocide
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wow
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The Darfur genocide is the systematic killing of ethnic Darfuri people which has occurred during the ongoing conflict in Western Sudan. It has become known as the first genocide of the 21st century. The genocide, which is being carried out against the Fur, Masalit and Zaghawa tribes, has led the International Criminal Court (ICC) to indict sever...
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There was already ethnic cleansing going on around 2000 in Kosovo and North Macedonia, DR Congo, Rwanda and Burundi iirc
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/5/2022 10:23 PM
True
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we can't have nice things goddamn it
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Darfur gets forgotten a lot though
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/5/2022 10:40 PM
yeah
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you know how i learned about it??
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a fucking onion video
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that's how forgotten it is
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BubsyFanboy 12/6/2022 2:40 AM
BREAKING: Indonesia approves new criminal code banning sex outside marriage
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/6/2022 2:43 AM
Good luck enforcing that.
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Good luck enforcing that.
It's there purely to kill women who upset men. That's all... that's pretty much all there is in Islam when it comes to sexuality. Justification to beat and murder women.
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It's there purely to kill women who upset men. That's all... that's pretty much all there is in Islam when it comes to sexuality. Justification to beat and murder women.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/6/2022 3:06 AM
Sounds an awful lot like Iran's morality police.
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Let's not forget genital mutilation which isn't as common as it used to be, but continues to be practiced solely to prevent women from tempting men... because afterward they are nearly entirely incapable of getting pleasure from sex.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Sounds an awful lot like Iran's morality police.
Sharia law be like that.
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Indonesia speed running how to fuck with their population
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https://www.politico.eu/article/sweden-finland-nato-turkey-erdogan-magdalena-anderssonkurdish-rights/amp/ Turkey forcing Sweden to end support of the Kurdish is a prime example of what I'm talking about. Erdogan treats them like human trash and demands Sweden do the same, despite what the Kurdish have done for NATO.
Sweden ends support. Gets in Nato. Resupports them again Still a shit move, but one that could backfire. What's Erdogan gonna do? Invade Sweden?!
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/6/2022 5:40 AM
ok, whl was the incel who wrote this
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Sounds an awful lot like Iran's morality police.
Sounds a lot like Pakistan too. And Saudi Arabia. And Qatar. And Afghanistan. And...
8:38 AM
This has been a certified theocracy moment
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BubsyFanboy 12/6/2022 10:30 AM
PiS councilman during local IVF funding act debate in Jelenia Góra: "A child born from a tube is a product, not a life; is not a creature, but is an animal" Polish source: https://streamable.com/cy3m5n (edited)
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PiS councilman during local IVF funding act debate in Jelenia Góra: "A child born from a tube is a product, not a life; is not a creature, but is an animal" Polish source: https://streamable.com/cy3m5n (edited)
AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/6/2022 10:31 AM
that doesn't make sense
10:31 AM
ivf still requires a woman correct?
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ivf still requires a woman correct?
BubsyFanboy 12/6/2022 10:32 AM
It does.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/6/2022 10:32 AM
then it's not some sci-fi horror shit
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BubsyFanboy 12/6/2022 10:32 AM
And even if it didn't, those """pro-life""" people deny the humanity of adults who were born this way.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/6/2022 10:33 AM
we're still not using actual test tubes in some massive factory to create humans so i don't feel the debate should exist
10:34 AM
but oh well
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we're still not using actual test tubes in some massive factory to create humans so i don't feel the debate should exist
BubsyFanboy 12/6/2022 10:35 AM
It really shouldn't, but our reactionaries are grasping at straws to justify refusing funds to something even remotely socially progressive.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/6/2022 10:35 AM
oh well
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BubsyFanboy 12/6/2022 10:35 AM
Hence the "LGBT-free" zones, hence denying the IVF-born their humanity.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/6/2022 10:36 AM
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-63869078 <-- how to convert human sexual drive into political violence that sustains a patriarchy.
New laws will disproportionately punish women, LGBT people and religious minorities, critics say.
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"No sex until you enslave a woman."
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Then women/lgtba/transpeople should disarm the men til they get the message
11:52 AM
That way the spirit of the law is still followed...in a fashion
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-63869078 <-- how to convert human sexual drive into political violence that sustains a patriarchy.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/6/2022 12:14 PM
an act of naked oppression
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LessthanLoneWolf 12/6/2022 3:58 PM
A Manhattan jury has reached a verdict in the criminal tax fraud trial of two Trump Organization entities.
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Georgia runoff race right now is fucking intense.
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Fuck yeah Warnock wins
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Wait Warnock won?? By how much?
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Just called it with 50.4% versus 49.6 for Walker
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Goddamn nailbiter
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More votes still coming in but it's all from Atlanta so Warnock clinched it
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Up by about 30,000 votes atm
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51-49
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Yep. Makes the Sinema/Manchin problem less of a deal. They can both abstain from a vote, as long as the other Dems agree, you get 49 - 49 with Harris tie breaker. Manchin or Sinema would have to vote R to cause a problem. Of course this doesn't solve the filibuster issue but it could help get some legislation passed (edited)
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Problem is the House, but the razor thin majority the GOP has could cause some defections from them
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Yeah. Also this Senate win gives the Dems more control over committees and judicial appointments
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Honestly I'm just glad a complete moron like Walker didn't become a senator. But for it to be this close really does reveal the problems we have with how our government works
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Same on both counts.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/6/2022 11:03 PM
In case anyone still thinks rethuglicans care about vets.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/6/2022 11:05 PM
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how do veterans get the shortests most fragile sticks
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always
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/6/2022 11:06 PM
And they wonder why the army has trouble meeting its recruitment quotas.
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11:06 PM
Maybe because you keep relentlessly shitting on them?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/6/2022 11:08 PM
Isnt there a very....bad stigma as well that some people hold for some reason?
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Isnt there a very....bad stigma as well that some people hold for some reason?
Up in Canada there’s a nation wide sex scandal involving high ranking military personnel, id pick up a gun to defend my homeland but not for a bunch of actual goofs
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/6/2022 11:15 PM
lol
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Warnick won reelection
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thank god
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we can punch manchin or sinema when they try their shit again
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/7/2022 6:53 AM
I wonder how poorly the chinese invation of Taiwan would go, their ranks are insanely corrupt and their leadership is even more so.
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And comparing Ukraine to Taiwan, Taiwan is in a way better position to defend itself
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Taiwan also has the US to come in and beat the shit out if invaders in a contract that ALSO applies to potential allies depending how bad it gets
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/7/2022 11:52 AM
honestly, the only thing china has going for them are numbers
11:52 AM
and that's it
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Twenty-five people have been arrested in raids across Germany on suspicion of plotting to overthrow the government. German reports say the group of far-right and ex-military figures planned to storm the parliament building, the Reichstag, and seize power.
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It's like a copypasta meme.
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I wonder how poorly the chinese invation of Taiwan would go, their ranks are insanely corrupt and their leadership is even more so.
China is at least two years out in ship construction and heavy lift aircraft construction in order to put the number of troops on the ground in the time they need to take Taiwan in the first place, hold it from partisan opposition, and defend a counter invasion from the US. Everything they do is posturing, or they are idiots. (edited)
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As of last month they can put 10% the troops they need before US can start sinking the transports (assuming they get through the sub blockade in the first place).
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China is at least two years out in ship construction and heavy lift aircraft construction in order to put the number of troops on the ground in the time they need to take Taiwan in the first place, hold it from partisan opposition, and defend a counter invasion from the US. Everything they do is posturing, or they are idiots. (edited)
AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/7/2022 12:40 PM
do you know that mao's grandson is a general in their army?
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the "man" might as well have a mental disability with how he behaves(like a child)
12:41 PM
and he's 52
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do you know that mao's grandson is a general in their army?
Well he's almost certainly the psychopath his grandfather was... so that's a major detriment as a combat leader.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/7/2022 12:42 PM
definately
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the man is barely literate
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look at it
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that is apparently poetry he wrote
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nepotism at it's finest
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Illegit court is looking to hear Moore vs Harper somewhat soon
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I'll be shocked in the court actually decides to not do it
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related, am I the only one who feels like, in addition to being completely illegitimate, this is a national guard worthy reason to force electors to represent their people given it gives state govs the right to ignore the constitution and the presidency?
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Little Rock happened because a governor got pissy that black kids could go to a formerly all white school and threatened to use his role to order police to shoot the kids despite federal fucking mandate (edited)
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no way in hell this won't lead to state capital shootouts real fucking quick
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/7/2022 1:30 PM
Ben Shapiro argues the government can't prevent people from "banning Jews at country clubs" or "banning Black people from restaurants"
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Remember, Democrats are the real racists. /s (edited)
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related, a idea I've been musing (and one that funny enough if Moore v Harper goes through, I can argue further,) is petitioning my state (California) that the state has the absolute right to ignore the supreme courts and federal rulings is "the reasonings are held under suspect, bias and unrealistic to achieve"
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yes
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I want to piss off the GOP
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The courts made their decision
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now try to see if they can enforce it
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if there is a city I hate the most, it's definately Dubai
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that's fair
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/7/2022 6:20 PM
built on slavery and objectively, horrible to live in
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Yep. That’s my home state!!
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/8/2022 12:17 PM
Quick question, I heard there was a really controversial prisoner trade between the U.S and Russia recently, can anyone elaborate on that?
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Arms dealer. Big time one.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/8/2022 12:19 PM
and who was returned to the states?
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Lord of War was loosely based on this psychopath. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Bout#In_popular_culture
Viktor Anatolyevich Bout (; Russian: Виктор Анатольевич Бут; born 13 January 1967) is a Russian arms dealer. An entrepreneur and former Soviet military translator, he used his multiple companies to smuggle weapons since the collapse of the Soviet Union from Eastern Europe to Africa and the Middle East during the 1990s and early 2000s. Bout gaine...
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/8/2022 12:20 PM
Wow
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still, who was returned to the states???? had to be someone important
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and who was returned to the states?
Brittney Yevette Griner (born October 18, 1990) is an American professional basketball player for the Phoenix Mercury of the Women's National Basketball Association (WNBA). She played college basketball for the Baylor Lady Bears in Waco, Texas. She is the only NCAA basketball player to both score 2,000 points and block 500 shots. In 2012, the th...
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/8/2022 12:20 PM
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Lord of War was loosely based on this psychopath. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Bout#In_popular_culture
AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/8/2022 12:20 PM
I would not let this man roam free at ant costs (edited)
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She was picked up for having THC in vape form.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/8/2022 12:21 PM
bruh
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I would not let this man roam free at ant costs (edited)
Yup.
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I would not let this man roam free at ant costs (edited)
Well arguably in the time he's been in prison he's probably lost nearly all or all contacts he used to use... but that's nothing Putin couldn't fix in a few years. If I were the US I'd be keeping close watch on him and would execute him at the first chance though.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/8/2022 12:23 PM
At minimum, lock him up and throw away the key
12:23 PM
people like him are too dangerous to be let out
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people like him are too dangerous to be let out
I don't like state sanctioned murder or prisons. If I had to choose between the two, for this guy I'd take the first. Safer for everyone in the long run.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/8/2022 12:25 PM
definately
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/8/2022 1:02 PM
@Spinner Btw who is Paul Whelan, I see him get brought up with the whole prisoner trade thing
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what did he do
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what did he do
Nothing afaik... Russia is accusing him of being a spy, probably because he served in the Marine Corps and had triple citizenship (US, UK, Ire)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/8/2022 1:15 PM
ah
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But he also could be CIA, wouldn't know.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/8/2022 1:16 PM
why didn't they bring him back?
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with what he's being accused for it at least makes more sense
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i guess
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My guess... prioritizing him would tell Russia he was a spy.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/8/2022 1:16 PM
probably...
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Brittney is very clearly just an athlete, Russia probably can't fathom us using people of color as spys so it's safe to get her out. He's a white Marine... literally exactly the kind of person the CIA recruits for wetwork (in the eyes of Russia, we probably actually have more wetwork POC agents than white ones at this point). (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/8/2022 1:48 PM
yeah makes sense
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still, who was returned to the states???? had to be someone important
No.
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lmao
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I'm not sure what the government's angle is
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I really hope there is an angle
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/8/2022 1:56 PM
considering the conversation between me and spinner (edited)
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i think there is
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hopefully
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/8/2022 2:20 PM
florida police training is a joke holy shit
2:21 PM
a news story came up on how two roomates(both cops) had been playing online games and when they stopped one of the two 'Jokingly shot' the other
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No.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/8/2022 2:58 PM
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florida police training is a joke holy shit
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/8/2022 3:01 PM
Well, it IS Florida.
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Well, it IS Florida.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/8/2022 3:02 PM
when everyone read the article they all said 'Of course it's florida'
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followed by obvious shock
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Well Time To break out the John Brown gun club again
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MisterStompy 12/8/2022 5:40 PM
Charlie Kirk has spent the first hour of his show reading emails from his listeners who said they didn't vote in Georgia because they believe there's too much fraud, a message they heard on the Charlie Kirk show
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no no, let them make mistakes
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/8/2022 7:36 PM
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One good perk of Honorary college degrees. They can be taken away
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/8/2022 7:52 PM
indeed
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Wow holy shit. Kirsten Sinema just changed her affiliation from Democrat to Independent. I'm sure this is so she vote Republican with a clear conscience
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Wow holy shit. Kirsten Sinema just changed her affiliation from Democrat to Independent. I'm sure this is so she vote Republican with a clear conscience
She has no conscience. She's probably just tired of the accusations of betrayal.
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Wow holy shit. Kirsten Sinema just changed her affiliation from Democrat to Independent. I'm sure this is so she vote Republican with a clear conscience
she knows that any vote of her's is worthless. Also that she pissed off all of Arizona's Dems
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Wow holy shit. Kirsten Sinema just changed her affiliation from Democrat to Independent. I'm sure this is so she vote Republican with a clear conscience
who could POSSIBLY have predicted, etc. etc.
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I'm split in a weird way. I think representatives should vote for what they believe is best, even if it goes against their party's line. We used to have a lot more liberal Republicans and conservative Democrats back in the olden days, whereas now they're all gone. ...But at the same time, what is the point in being a Democrat if you're going to vote with Republicans 99% of the time? (edited)
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Btw, do not interpret this as me defending Sinema or Manchin; they're both awful
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Manchin is a dick...but he's also lowkey dem because man realizes gop will ruin his state
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/9/2022 3:49 PM
I hate that this sounds dangerously close to their actual rhetoric.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/9/2022 3:59 PM
ikr?
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LessthanLoneWolf 12/10/2022 1:53 AM
Mr Trump blasted the Biden administration’s deal on his Truth Social platform – despite refusing to take action to try to free Mr Whelan for two years of his own presidency
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BubsyFanboy 12/10/2022 2:06 AM
Four people "of influence in the European Parliament" were arrested earlier on Friday, according to the Belgian prosecutor's office. #EuropeNews
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/10/2022 2:17 PM
lmao
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MisterStompy 12/10/2022 4:37 PM
he's trying to get access to Russia's stockpiles, he's gonna sell nukes to the North Koreans https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/10/europe/viktor-bout-supports-ukraine-war-intl/index.html
Freed Russian arms dealer Viktor Bout said on Saturday he "wholeheartedly" supports Moscow's so-called "military operation" in Ukraine and that if he had the opportunity and necessary skills, he would "certainly go as a volunteer."
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MisterStompy 12/10/2022 5:01 PM
Also FINALLY Vietnam is going to be a major US ally in Southeast Asia https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/us-vietnam-arms-supply-defence-expo-3134386
Since the US removal of its ban on arms sales to Vietnam in May 2016, the two countries have reached several defence deals.
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I mean not officially because their constitution forbids them from signing alliances but still
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BubsyFanboy 12/10/2022 5:11 PM
BREAKING: Serbia to ask NATO peacekeeping mission in Kosovo to allow it to deploy Serbian military and police troops in Kosovo, Serbia's president Vucic says - Reuters
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MisterStompy 12/10/2022 6:16 PM
That's weird, I was told NATO is a fascist organization. It seems the actual fascists disagree.
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That's weird, I was told NATO is a fascist organization. It seems the actual fascists disagree.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/10/2022 6:26 PM
https://youtu.be/-nj8skW0Qtk The only appropriate response to that.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/10/2022 7:58 PM
Ok so
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uhh
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i was looking through my youtube home page, business as usual
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and I see a video about 'Transautism'???
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what the hell is that??
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my home page updated and I lost the video, but there are videos on the subject
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i hope its just a case of a bad name chosen for the community
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is it just a troll?? (edited)
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i hope its just a case of a bad name chosen for the community
floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/10/2022 8:56 PM
what community
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/10/2022 8:57 PM
Trans autism, I'm pretty sure its a troll
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/10/2022 8:59 PM
fuckin' hope it is
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There is a huge statistical overlap with gender nonconformity and autism.
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People who do not identify with the sex they were assigned at birth are three to six times as likely to be autistic as cisgender people are.
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TL;DR: be suspicious and angry towards people who identify as transgender, and autistic.
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..... I'm actually autistic and this makes no sense
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Autistic people are staunchly antifascist because of the Nazi legacy of Hans Aspberger.
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The message is intended to drown out autistic voices representing themselves by "seeding" the opinions of people who don't actually know anyone transgender or autistic.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/10/2022 10:15 PM
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Fash tries to redefine the terminology of the civilization they want to destroy as a way to frustrate cooperative communication.
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TL;DR: be suspicious and angry towards people who identify as transgender, and autistic.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/10/2022 11:11 PM
yeah, i got to the video i had lost and it HAS to be a troll
11:12 PM
basically its people who identify as autistic/autistic people that identify as another type of autistic, which i honestly find absolutely insulting
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I'm autistic and just.... this makes no sense. At all.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/10/2022 11:13 PM
it must be a troll
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or people so disconnected from reality, they think this works
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Trolls punching down are fash tools.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/11/2022 12:48 AM
100%
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BubsyFanboy 12/11/2022 3:03 AM
Almost universally, members of Congress do not read the bills they vote on. Neither do their staffs. Sometimes because they’re not given time by the speaker or leader. Often because they just don’t care. If you think this is ever okay, then please don’t claim you value democracy.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/11/2022 3:04 AM
Why am I not surprised?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/11/2022 3:46 AM
woah, it's almost like we're less indoctrinated by societal norms and therefore more open and accepting of those who violate them
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/11/2022 8:16 AM
how did Jimmy Kimmel's career survive
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he's unfunny and he did blackface
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he's unfunny and he did blackface
Is Martha Stewart's nephew or something like that. (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/11/2022 11:55 AM
fair
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We have you surrounded! Turn on your TV! I HATE LATE NIGHT TV HOSTS! I HATE LATE NIGHT TV HOSTS! I HATE LATE NIGHT TV HOSTS!
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/11/2022 5:09 PM
XD
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We have you surrounded! Turn on your TV! I HATE LATE NIGHT TV HOSTS! I HATE LATE NIGHT TV HOSTS! I HATE LATE NIGHT TV HOSTS!
AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/11/2022 5:09 PM
just change the channel to gabriel iglesias
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he's funny as hell
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LessthanLoneWolf 12/11/2022 11:19 PM
A collection of radical right figures including white nationalists and ultranationalist European leaders gathered in Manhattan for the New York Young Republicans Club’s (NYYRC) annual gala Saturday night, where that group’s president declared “total war” on perceived enemies.
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Fucking terrifying.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/12/2022 12:59 AM
Arm up, people. You're likely going to need it at this rate.
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They certainly are trying to amp up the potential for violence among their crowd... but most of them really are very cowardly... it's gonna take more time than they think to really escalate things. They've got to embolden all those cowards into widespread action. But yes, it's absolutely time to get your endurance up, practice your firearms and medical skills, create safe havens, and work on building community defense efforts.
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BubsyFanboy 12/12/2022 5:50 AM
Prosecutors allege that many of the suspects were members of the "Reichsbuerger" (Citizens of the Reich) movement, which does not believe in the existence of the modern German state.
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You guys ever played far cry 5? remember 'keep your rifle by your side'? I guess this song was really about them
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You guys ever played far cry 5? remember 'keep your rifle by your side'? I guess this song was really about them
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/12/2022 10:22 AM
https://youtu.be/hAbmimbaFHE Read the comments. They consider this their theme song.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/12/2022 10:22 AM
yeah, with THEIR actions?
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it seems this song is more about fighting them
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This is not surprising given the Claremont press has already stated Republicans should abandon conservatism for an unstated “new idea” coughclerical fascismcough
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I’m not the biggest 2A guy but I’m definitely going to see if I can transfer some of the firearms in my name in Arizona up to Boston… I’m kind of in “brace for impact” mentality at this point
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it seems this song is more about fighting them
It's certainly more geared Right... assuming their righteous god is backing them against "bombs and tanks"... obviously referring to the US Military.
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Gotta remember Fash think they are the good guys... the cognitive dissonance of their choices cannot exist without that fundamental lie.
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There's a reason I argue the liberal/left should co-op the more terrifying religious and folk belief imagery. Undermine the faith narrative and also a means of inflicting psychological terror in their more superstitious numbers
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It's certainly more geared Right... assuming their righteous god is backing them against "bombs and tanks"... obviously referring to the US Military.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/12/2022 3:28 PM
Ayup
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but hey, who says we can't pull an Union dixxie again
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https://youtu.be/hAbmimbaFHE Read the comments. They consider this their theme song.
LessthanLoneWolf 12/12/2022 3:34 PM
It is a pretty good song, won’t lie
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It is a pretty good song, won’t lie
AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/12/2022 3:35 PM
Oh yeah, fun fact, when making the radio, Ubisoft wanted to make the most annoying and grating cult songs They failed at that, horribly
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/12/2022 5:34 PM
Fuck me.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/12/2022 5:36 PM
daaaaaaamn
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that's one hell of an expose
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Fuck me.
I like that kid!
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Fuck me.
MisterStompy 12/12/2022 6:39 PM
HOLY SHIT BAAAAAAAAAAAAASED
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/12/2022 6:45 PM
i wonder what terrible person is on top now, probably bezos
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AIF Cuirassier regiment
i wonder what terrible person is on top now, probably bezos
MisterStompy 12/12/2022 6:47 PM
nah it's some oil dude I think
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/12/2022 6:47 PM
not surprised
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MisterStompy 12/12/2022 6:47 PM
actually it's me
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this is why you don't fuck with ad revenue people
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/13/2022 1:05 AM
I've seen comments on r/conservative calling them "good innocent people". Jesus Christ these people are nuts.
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There is a certain level of collective disassociation from reality happening among them.
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MisterStompy
nah it's some oil dude I think
Arnault owns LMVH
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So high-end clothing and alcoholic bevs
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Arnault owns LMVH
MisterStompy 12/13/2022 1:34 AM
yeah french fashion thing, they sell these ultra expensive purses
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yeah french fashion thing, they sell these ultra expensive purses
Yeah LVMH’s umbrella is insane
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Like over half of European luxury consumer goods are their subsidiaries
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MisterStompy 12/13/2022 1:36 AM
him dropping from the number one position is just going to make him even more erratic is the thing, which makes him drop lower and lower
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MisterStompy
him dropping from the number one position is just going to make him even more erratic is the thing, which makes him drop lower and lower
Tbh I don’t think his stupidity effects his placement too much, sure the recent Twitter purchase sunk him for now but his net worth is pretty much dependent on three things — the price of lithium, the price per mile of competing high-end EV’s to Tesla, and how much the gov’t is spending on non-defense aerospace contracts
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Tbh I don’t think his stupidity effects his placement too much, sure the recent Twitter purchase sunk him for now but his net worth is pretty much dependent on three things — the price of lithium, the price per mile of competing high-end EV’s to Tesla, and how much the gov’t is spending on non-defense aerospace contracts
MisterStompy 12/13/2022 1:42 AM
his stupidity is causing the price of his stocks to plummet which is causing him to lose wealth, if his stocks continue to decline at this rate, he'll be forcibly bought out of Tesla and removed as CEO
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his stupidity is causing the price of his stocks to plummet which is causing him to lose wealth, if his stocks continue to decline at this rate, he'll be forcibly bought out of Tesla and removed as CEO
Especially since literally every other EV manufacturer is actually developing safer and longer range vehicles and Tesla has sorta dropped the ball on all their development and advancement projects.
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Hell people on Facebook are exceeding Tesla range power and reliability in their home garages.
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his stupidity is causing the price of his stocks to plummet which is causing him to lose wealth, if his stocks continue to decline at this rate, he'll be forcibly bought out of Tesla and removed as CEO
Ehhhh that’s a bit of an oversimplification of why Tesla stock is dropping. Lithium supply constraints and production undershoots in China plus increasing legacy competition is the main cause of Tesla’s two year long decline.
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Especially since literally every other EV manufacturer is actually developing safer and longer range vehicles and Tesla has sorta dropped the ball on all their development and advancement projects.
MisterStompy 12/13/2022 1:49 AM
Elon Musk's Tesla is going the way Apple did in the late 90's. For the longest time the Macintosh reigned supreme until IBM and Commodore started producing cheaper, easier to use and more reliable alternatives. Rather than improve any of their technology, Steve Jobs (who is very similar to Elon Musk in many ways, and it still shocks me how many people think he was a great guy) just continued to raise the price of Apple computers or try to intrude into other markets. This eventually led to them being on the complete brink of bankruptcy. The only reason Apple is still around today is because Bill Gates injected a bunch of money into the company so he wouldn't get hit with an Antitrust suit by the government. That isn't gonna happen for Elon, though, because with Ford and Chevy both making EV's, Tesla isn't a monopoly. There's no reason for other car companies to save em.
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I highly doubt Elon will be bought out though
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Tesla is radioactive to PE because it’s an automotive company valued like a tech stock
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There’s no realistic way a firm could recoup investment in to it as it’s realistic valuation is MUCH lower than market and it only remains inflated because no one wants to end up being the bag holder on the Tesla crash
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MisterStompy 12/13/2022 1:52 AM
If Elon thinks putting a phone out will save Tesla he's fucking high, because it'll land just like the Apple Pippin and the Apple Newton did. Apple tried to get in on the PDA market with the Newton and the console market with the Pippin, but unlike with personal computers in that there really wasn't any major competition when the Macintosh got made, there was already a thriving PDA and game console market. Do you think anybody gave a shit about the Pippin? Have you even heard of the Pippin?
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"but Elon Musk took on Ford and Chevy!!!!" you might hear people say, but he didn't, Ford and Chevy were never EV companies before, they made some EV cars, sure, but they never focused on it, it was just them experimenting. Just like Apple didn't really take on IBM. IBM at the time wasn't making home computers, there was no real competition for Apple.
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Now there is
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MisterStompy 12/13/2022 1:56 AM
Exactly. How many people are in the smartphone market? Like thirty companies? ALL of the companies, more or less? Plus there's the fact that a massive amount of Tesla's revenue comes from China, which kind of has restrictions on what phones people are allowed to have in the first place. (edited)
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I just looked it up and 170 companies are producing smartphones.
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"but Elon Musk took on Ford and Chevy!!!!" you might hear people say, but he didn't, Ford and Chevy were never EV companies before, they made some EV cars, sure, but they never focused on it, it was just them experimenting. Just like Apple didn't really take on IBM. IBM at the time wasn't making home computers, there was no real competition for Apple.
That being said I think we’ll have to wait another half decade for more serious competition in Tesla’s market segment
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That being said I think we’ll have to wait another half decade for more serious competition in Tesla’s market segment
MisterStompy 12/13/2022 1:58 AM
It won't take half a decade for government susidaries to go from Tesla to Ford and Chevy.
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I think in about ten years though we'll have enough private companies doing space shit, while also doing it cheaper and safer than Tesla, that the same thing will happen in that regard as well.
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It won't take half a decade for government susidaries to go from Tesla to Ford and Chevy.
The people in the market for a Tesla generally are not the same as for a Ford and Chevy though, those firms will be competing with the Japanese more imo
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Tesla’s main threat are the Krauts and the Bonglanders
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The people in the market for a Tesla generally are not the same as for a Ford and Chevy though, those firms will be competing with the Japanese more imo
MisterStompy 12/13/2022 2:00 AM
I honestly think in 5 years the biggest market for Tesla's will be China.
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And the Krauts really dropped the ball with their latest EV lineup meanwhile I think Britain will make a competent EV when hell freezes over (edited)
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MisterStompy 12/13/2022 2:02 AM
Also maybe I misunderstood what you said but Tesla's aren't really that big in Japan (Macs aren't either hilariously enough)
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I honestly think in 5 years the biggest market for Tesla's will be China.
Oh definitely, but I see their main competition being German and British cars in the Asian market
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And the Krauts really dropped the ball with their latest EV lineup meanwhile I think Britain will make a competent EV when hell freezes over (edited)
MisterStompy 12/13/2022 2:03 AM
I would rather just skip ahead and jump right into an electrified bathtub before I drove a British EV.
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fuck, I've been talking with my fam about when we have to convert to EVs (California is trying to push future policies for more EVs on the road here to combat the smog and Carbon issue) and so far, surprisingly Chevy's been a up and up. Provided their bolt is currently off the market due to a technical issue involving their batteries, but its definitely shown known improvements to the "telsa" style
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Tesla or BMW to compensate for my wife leaving me energy
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MisterStompy 12/13/2022 2:04 AM
I'm just wondering how long it will take Elon to start dropping racial slurs on Twitter.
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Not long
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I got my money within a year max
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Also maybe I misunderstood what you said but Tesla's aren't really that big in Japan (Macs aren't either hilariously enough)
Yeah I think we got our wires crossed, I meant legacy US manufacturers will compete more with Japanese-made economy EV’s while Tesla’s main competition comes more from European premium manufacturers (edited)
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Yeah I think we got our wires crossed, I meant legacy US manufacturers will compete more with Japanese-made economy EV’s while Tesla’s main competition comes more from European premium manufacturers (edited)
MisterStompy 12/13/2022 2:05 AM
Okay, that makes sense. Don't forget about South Korea, too.
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And german cars are unfortunately for Telsa, very good quality for their budget
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MisterStompy 12/13/2022 2:06 AM
As soon as EV people stop making EV's look so fucking goofy, everyone will want them.
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I honestly think in 5 years the biggest market for Tesla's will be China.
Hard disagree, I'm still getting offers from China to go help them develop Autonomous Vehicles that are battery operated... all of my former co-workers at Nuro are. China is going AI EV and they are not going to do it beholden to a white dude.
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Hard disagree, I'm still getting offers from China to go help them develop Autonomous Vehicles that are battery operated... all of my former co-workers at Nuro are. China is going AI EV and they are not going to do it beholden to a white dude.
MisterStompy 12/13/2022 2:07 AM
A new car that specifically targets non-Han people for vehicular manslaughter.
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Okay, that makes sense. Don't forget about South Korea, too.
True, sometime I forget Hundyai Group in discussing cars
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A new car that specifically targets non-Han people for vehicular manslaughter.
Don't let tankies hear you say that. But I wouldn't fucking put it past them.
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which could backfire if someone hacks them
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which has happened before
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people hacking cars to attempt murders is a thing
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Don't let tankies hear you say that. But I wouldn't fucking put it past them.
MisterStompy 12/13/2022 2:09 AM
One of the last discussions I had online with a tankie was trying to explain to him how ridiculously racist modern China is. He said that he'd be more welcome in China as a black man than anywhere else. I sent him a video of Chinese people saying some... interesting things to black tourists. He called me a fascist and blocked me.
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people hacking cars to attempt murders is a thing
MisterStompy 12/13/2022 2:09 AM
Well lucky for the hackers they don't need to hack Teslas to kill people, they just do that on their own.
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One of the last discussions I had online with a tankie was trying to explain to him how ridiculously racist modern China is. He said that he'd be more welcome in China as a black man than anywhere else. I sent him a video of Chinese people saying some... interesting things to black tourists. He called me a fascist and blocked me.
Standard Authcom practice.
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Don't let tankies hear you say that. But I wouldn't fucking put it past them.
Tankie dickriding for China never ceases to baffle me
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It's funny because it's true. Tesla is using visualization tech from the 90s.
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Standard Authcom practice.
MisterStompy 12/13/2022 2:10 AM
There's this official Chinese Airlines pamphlet that is handed out to people landing in London to beware of "Pakistanis and Africans".
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My brother in Christ have you read transcripts of CCP meetings on welfare policy
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MisterStompy
There's this official Chinese Airlines pamphlet that is handed out to people landing in London to beware of "Pakistanis and Africans".
No doubts here.
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MisterStompy 12/13/2022 2:11 AM
Hold on there's this great meme about the Tankie dickriding for modern China I saw, let me find it
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They go right of Reagan in that shit
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put it in #memes
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Tankie dickriding for China never ceases to baffle me
floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/13/2022 2:11 AM
the whole model of authoritarianism relies on unwavering support, otherwise you’re a counterrevolutionary or whatever else.
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My brother in Christ have you read transcripts of CCP meetings on welfare policy
Probably reads a lot like Vietnamese party transcripts on the same topic.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
the whole model of authoritarianism relies on unwavering support, otherwise you’re a counterrevolutionary or whatever else.
Which in China results in literally drawing and quartering you and your entire family. Thank Mao.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/13/2022 2:13 AM
it’s why collective authoritarian societies are stupid. it just inherently victimizes people and splits the necessary collectivization to move forwards (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
it’s why collective authoritarian societies are stupid. it just inherently victimizes people and splits the necessary collectivization to move forwards (edited)
It's the authoritarian part that does it.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/13/2022 2:14 AM
yeah
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mother anarchy loves her children, so on
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Probably reads a lot like Vietnamese party transcripts on the same topic.
The only saving grace for the CPV is that they don’t bullshit you about it, they stick true to a market socialist model that at least has marginally redistributive elements
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That being said I'm not convinced your base authority level in collective societies can be larger than 30 people without fucking up. Those groups can federate non-hierarchically together, but the autonomy must reside at the lowest level and with the lowest number.
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CCP policy is basically just ripped from the fascist Manchuko wing of KMT policy
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The only saving grace for the CPV is that they don’t bullshit you about it, they stick true to a market socialist model that at least has marginally redistributive elements
Yeah which is why they proudly bulldoze apartment complexes without providing alternative housing to make room for luxury condos to rent to vacationers from other nations.
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MisterStompy 12/13/2022 2:16 AM
It's always hilarious when tankies will try to go "WE'LL YOU'RE JUST A CAPITALIST BOOTLICKER TOO" in response to shit like the Pizza Hut meme because unlike them I don't claim to be "anti capitalist".
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It's always hilarious when tankies will try to go "WE'LL YOU'RE JUST A CAPITALIST BOOTLICKER TOO" in response to shit like the Pizza Hut meme because unlike them I don't claim to be "anti capitalist".
Well, I do claim to be anti-capitalist... that said my wife and dog need food and medicine and this is a capitalist nation... so I'm not real happy with it.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/13/2022 2:17 AM
tankies claim to be anti-capitalist because that’s their end goal, but the socialist states of the world are still state capitalists
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Yeah which is why they proudly bulldoze apartment complexes without providing alternative housing to make room for luxury condos to rent to vacationers from other nations.
I’m not claiming the CPV is good in any sense, but from a broad high-level of their developmental model it’s generally more forgiving than the Chinese/Asian Tiger model
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I need to stress this is extremely relative
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Well, I do claim to be anti-capitalist... that said my wife and dog need food and medicine and this is a capitalist nation... so I'm not real happy with it.
MisterStompy 12/13/2022 2:17 AM
I'm not saying I want unfettered capitalism because I'm not 12 years old lmao. I also support enviornmental regulations and stuff. I also like strong safety nets and welfare. UBI is based.
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CCP policy is basically just ripped from the fascist Manchuko wing of KMT policy
Not familiar with that, just familiar with Mao and the Dengist revisions... particularly the impact of the one child policy on international human trafficking.
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I’m not claiming the CPV is good in any sense, but from a broad high-level of their developmental model it’s generally more forgiving than the Chinese/Asian Tiger model
MisterStompy 12/13/2022 2:18 AM
I mean people in Vietnam have much more internet freedom than China does.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/13/2022 2:18 AM
oh shit hello fellow idahoan what are you doing up at this awful hour
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I mean people in Vietnam have much more internet freedom than China does.
Yeah... so long as they don't shit on the party.
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Not familiar with that, just familiar with Mao and the Dengist revisions... particularly the impact of the one child policy on international human trafficking.
Look up Italian-style corporatism, basically that
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MisterStompy 12/13/2022 2:19 AM
For the longest time I also thought Vietnam had a walled garden internet until I posted a meme on Facebook and like 700,000 Vietnamese dudes commented on it
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It was like the fucking Tet Offensive
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oh shit hello fellow idahoan what are you doing up at this awful hour
MisterStompy 12/13/2022 2:19 AM
I have chronic insomnia lol
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Look up Italian-style corporatism, basically that
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/13/2022 2:20 AM
oh fuck that sucks
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Yeah... so long as they don't shit on the party.
MisterStompy 12/13/2022 2:20 AM
It was a lot like Russia pre Ukraine invasion, actually.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/13/2022 2:20 AM
i accidentally fell asleep at 6 so i woke up and i’m Tired af but i’m not sleepy enough to go to sleep
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I'm gonna bow out and focus on my communalist collective in the game Ostriv. Take care folks.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/13/2022 2:20 AM
communalism my beloved
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MisterStompy 12/13/2022 2:21 AM
Also Vietnam has better LGBT rights than China and ESPECIALLY Russia, so you could like post "I'm a gay guy who does gay stuff" on Facebook in Vietnam and you wouldn't get lynched.
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communalism my beloved
Should check it out, it's from an indy Ukrainian developer, and your township can literally provide food and housing for free to residents.
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Also Vietnam has better LGBT rights than China and ESPECIALLY Russia, so you could like post "I'm a gay guy who does gay stuff" on Facebook in Vietnam and you wouldn't get lynched.
Ladyboys in SE Asia go back so far historically that if they did crack down on it the government would topple. It's a pretty critical part of the culture.
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Ladyboys in SE Asia go back so far historically that if they did crack down on it the government would topple. It's a pretty critical part of the culture.
MisterStompy 12/13/2022 2:24 AM
I thought that was mostly a Filipino and Thai thing?
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Lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender (LGBT) people in Vietnam face legal challenges not experienced by non-LGBT residents. From 2000, both male and female same-sex sexual activity are legal and are believed to never have been criminalized in Vietnamese history. However, same-sex couples and households headed by same-sex couples are ineligible for...
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Definitely not too bad for East Asia. Still nowhere near Taiwan, though.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/13/2022 2:27 AM
…huh, i’ve never seen somewhere that has better trans rights than gay rights before
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I thought that was mostly a Filipino and Thai thing?
It predates those national boarders, it predates their interactions with western traders. It even predates their subjugation by ancient Imperial China.
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MisterStompy 12/13/2022 2:28 AM
Also I was pretty shocked that the best civil rights for LGBT people in all of Eastern Europe are in one of the Balkan countries that's almost entirely Muslim. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Kosovo
Lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender (LGBT) rights in Kosovo have improved in recent years, most notably with the adoption of the new Constitution, banning discrimination based on sexual orientation. Kosovo remains one of few Muslim-majority countries where LGBT pride parades are held annually. The Government of Kosovo is supportive of the count...
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Bosnia and Albania are very close second, once again with sizeable Muslim majorities.
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MisterStompy
I'm not saying I want unfettered capitalism because I'm not 12 years old lmao. I also support enviornmental regulations and stuff. I also like strong safety nets and welfare. UBI is based.
Yeah I tend to neither define myself as anti-capitalist or anti-socialist. I support democratization of capital wherever possible and increased publicization of the economy, but I have deep fundamental disagreements with Marxist theory and thus tend to lean toward a market orientation, which I don’t think necessarily is in conflict with left wing goals if you view the end goal of socialism purely in terms of equitable distribution of political and economic capital in the working class.
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Basically social democratic for short-term policy goals, liberal socialist for long-term goals
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Yeah I tend to neither define myself as anti-capitalist or anti-socialist. I support democratization of capital wherever possible and increased publicization of the economy, but I have deep fundamental disagreements with Marxist theory and thus tend to lean toward a market orientation, which I don’t think necessarily is in conflict with left wing goals if you view the end goal of socialism purely in terms of equitable distribution of political and economic capital in the working class.
MisterStompy 12/13/2022 2:30 AM
I'll put it this way, I'm the kind of guy who would shoot Che Guevara for being a murderous homophobe, him being a communist is just icing on the cake.
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Also I was pretty shocked that the best civil rights for LGBT people in all of Eastern Europe are in one of the Balkan countries that's almost entirely Muslim. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Kosovo
It's not really shocking considering that the various cultures of the region existed pretty harmoniously under the Ottoman Empire... tolerance for all kinds of things was the main reason why.
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It's not really shocking considering that the various cultures of the region existed pretty harmoniously under the Ottoman Empire... tolerance for all kinds of things was the main reason why.
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I'm hyper critical of communism, but not necessarily being anti-communist but rather it completely fails to factor in what I call the "One asshole" fallacy
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I'll put it this way, I'm the kind of guy who would shoot Che Guevara for being a murderous homophobe, him being a communist is just icing on the cake.
But his Anarchist Cousin tho. Ok... now I'm really out.
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MisterStompy 12/13/2022 2:31 AM
I want to write a story about the they/them Bolivian death squad that cancels Che Guevara IRL for being problematic and only finds out after the fact that he was a communist.
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harmonious
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Specifically in the Balkans... at least till the French started fucking shit up.
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no matter how well thought out or well planned your political philosophy is, it is not immune to the very real problem of "There's always that one asshole who's gonna gather followers to start shit"
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Specifically in the Balkans... at least till the French started fucking shit up.
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no matter how well thought out or well planned your political philosophy is, it is not immune to the very real problem of "There's always that one asshole who's gonna gather followers to start shit"
floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/13/2022 2:33 AM
whats your point? you could invalidate literally any political system with that argument
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I personally do think Capitalism has some serious flaws that arguably need to be replaced or readdressed. however Communism isn't the answer because of the one asshole problem
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I'm hyper critical of communism, but not necessarily being anti-communist but rather it completely fails to factor in what I call the "One asshole" fallacy
MisterStompy 12/13/2022 2:33 AM
As far as communists go, Ho Chi Minh was pretty decent and should have been negotiated with, Sankara got everyone vaccinated and taught people how to read which is chill and Tito probably poisoned Stalin so he's at least a little based.
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Well, Ottoman Empire was still Imperialist... so fuck them... but they did focus on accepting different peoples... Even Sikhs were welcome in Balkan states in the Ottoman Empire.
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my point is, societies that have some methods to deal with the asshole problem are more likely to thrive
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Specifically in the Balkans... at least till the French started fucking shit up.
Mmmmmmm I’ll send you some non-Ottoman accounts of their shenanigans in the Balkans sometime
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/13/2022 2:34 AM
and communist societies magically have zero problem-resolution capabilities?
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As far as communists go, Ho Chi Minh was pretty decent and should have been negotiated with, Sankara got everyone vaccinated and taught people how to read which is chill and Tito probably poisoned Stalin so he's at least a little based.
I liked Tito. But he didn't do enough to get the cultures to cross collaborate with one another.
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well, Ironically I argue a communist society would be more closer to a absolute democracy in everything
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work? the mass votes for it
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and communist societies magically have zero problem-resolution capabilities?
MisterStompy 12/13/2022 2:35 AM
Well the criminal justice system in the Soviet Union was even more politicized than what we have in the US today. That's why that one serial killer got away with it for so long, they kept trying to pin it on some ethnic minority.
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taxes? Everyone votes for it
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Hungarys population decline under Ottoman rule mirrored the decline in some regions of the Spanish conquest of Mexico
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MisterStompy 12/13/2022 2:35 AM
Chikilato or whatever his name was
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Well the criminal justice system in the Soviet Union was even more politicized than what we have in the US today. That's why that one serial killer got away with it for so long, they kept trying to pin it on some ethnic minority.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/13/2022 2:36 AM
communist societies, not state capitalist ones
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Mmmmmmm I’ll send you some non-Ottoman accounts of their shenanigans in the Balkans sometime
Please do... I only have anecdotal accounts... and biased at that since my family were Deys at one point.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/13/2022 2:36 AM
we’re talking about (i think) the end goal, utopian example
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the only known communist societies either die too early or inevitably fail the asshole test
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I liked Tito. But he didn't do enough to get the cultures to cross collaborate with one another.
MisterStompy 12/13/2022 2:36 AM
Funnily enough his getting all the people to culturally merge was his way of quashing dissent.
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Please do... I only have anecdotal accounts... and biased at that since my family were Deys at one point.
Will do
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MisterStompy 12/13/2022 2:37 AM
Tito knew if everyone was getting along instead of divided by ethnicity and religion, they'd have too much fun eating and watching movies and shit to start resistance movements.
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the only known communist societies either die too early or inevitably fail the asshole test
floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/13/2022 2:37 AM
you still haven’t really explained how the mass democracy system of end-goal communism makes it wholly susceptible to an asshole
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Funnily enough his getting all the people to culturally merge was his way of quashing dissent.
I mean when you have a partisan militia commander become a leader of civilians... some things are bound to get done poorly.
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MisterStompy 12/13/2022 2:38 AM
That's why Stalin had to keep fucking deporting people out of their homelands, because instead of getting Tartars and Ukrainians and Uzbeks to all get along and play together, he had them all seperated in colonies which led to them finding solace in ethnic isolation.
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That's why Stalin had to keep fucking deporting people out of their homelands, because instead of getting Tartars and Ukrainians and Uzbeks to all get along and play together, he had them all seperated in colonies which led to them finding solace in ethnic isolation.
Never send a psychopath with paranoia to do... well anything other than kill people.
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MisterStompy 12/13/2022 2:39 AM
Serbians will tell you Tito was a Croat. Croats will tell you Tito was a Serbian. Bosniaks will tell you Tito was a nice guy.
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Serbians will tell you Tito was a Croat. Croats will tell you Tito was a Serbian. Bosniaks will tell you Tito was a nice guy.
Pretty fair assessment based on that side of my family's telling of it.
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its not But basically, something about societies attempting to be a absolute of a political philosophy like, say, the Soviets initially, lends to certain openings for Psychopathic assholes to cause shit Stalin was able to amass power not just by being scary, but also by getting the right connections and weaponizing the right people's trust in him.
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its not But basically, something about societies attempting to be a absolute of a political philosophy like, say, the Soviets initially, lends to certain openings for Psychopathic assholes to cause shit Stalin was able to amass power not just by being scary, but also by getting the right connections and weaponizing the right people's trust in him.
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Pretty fair assessment based on that side of my family's telling of it.
MisterStompy 12/13/2022 2:41 AM
And then Serbians will do something really bad with a jar and blame it on Albanians
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/13/2022 2:42 AM
okay we’re talking about two different things i think and it’s too late to have a 30 minute discussion to try and find the middle ground so i’m gonna go to sleep
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/13/2022 2:42 AM
thank you for trying, i’m not trying to be an asshole i genuinely don’t have time left for this
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NP
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shits late here too
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I'm only up for final studying shit
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Love this btw. Goodnight all.
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you still haven’t really explained how the mass democracy system of end-goal communism makes it wholly susceptible to an asshole
Imo I’m skeptical of the feasibility of end-goal communism if for nothing else it’s lack of answer to unequal distribution of political capital as those with control over the capacity to direct economic reinvestment would functionally have the same political capital as capitalists in a market model. Also just because imo the reinvestment rate required for maintaining any society imo makes it difficult for a communist society to eclipse the standards of living under a regulated capitalist market and my burning hatred of Labor Theory of Value which goes against my religion (multivariable calculus)
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Anyways yeah I should probably head to bed too
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Gn y’all! Good chat we can pick up some good spirited infighting discussion again tomorrow!
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Gn y’all! Good chat we can pick up some good spirited infighting discussion again tomorrow!
Mad respect to all for keeping it a discussion. Really it's very telling the quality of folks who can talk this deep about this kinda shit and not get into ad hominem attacks and such... very glad I came here.
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hey, my hatred is towards conservatives and alt right wannabe nazis. I may have issues with Anarchism and Communism, but I also acknowledge both political believes have valid criticism of Capitalism that should be addressed.
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hey, my hatred is towards conservatives and alt right wannabe nazis. I may have issues with Anarchism and Communism, but I also acknowledge both political believes have valid criticism of Capitalism that should be addressed.
I’ll lay out the olive branch to Libcons and paternalistic conservatives (CDU types) since, even though I disagree with them on economic policy minuta and some social issues, they tend to still be deeply committed to liberal democracy and some center-righters I know are some of the most active anti-fascists in my circles as well which I will always respect
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Like I’ll always respect a right-leaning liberal that’s committed and willing to fight for their views than one of those fencesitter centrist types (edited)
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I don’t have much love for statist Marxist types but imo their such a non-issue in the West and the “Marxists” abroad are no more than fascists with red paint with few exceptions
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So pretty much fascism is the only real threat I see, and I lose my patience for the right once you pass the nationalist line because imo that’s the point of no return.
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And neolib/Reaganite cons
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Eh idk where to put them
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Permanent banishment to neolib hell
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Orlando
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Enjoy never ending swamp ass
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imo Reagan is pretty fashy too. Man intentionally fucked up the AIDS crisis response
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and Iran-Contra
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provided my family is like...."fuck Reagan"
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I wouldn’t place him as fash still, his social policies were really shitty don’t get me wrong but we’re par for course at the time (honestly I’m blanking on a country that had a remotely respectable response to AIDS other than France, Sweden and Austria) and I think putting a lot of world leaders across the political spectrum in the fash category is a bit to big of a brush stroke
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rathernot123 12/13/2022 3:37 AM
He wasn’t that bad cause he did the same as all the other country’s then supplied arms to far right groups in Latin America
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Also with the Contra Affair, contextualizing it into the broader Kirkpatrick Doctrine makes it more just align with standard realpolitik, which isn’t anything unique
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He wasn’t that bad cause he did the same as all the other country’s then supplied arms to far right groups in Latin America
I know you’re being facetious but the Cold War was the peak of great power shenanigans
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still highly illegal and it fucked with two countries trying to do their own shit, one of which was a perfectly normal democracy before hand
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/13/2022 3:40 AM
the only good thing reagan did was boost civil science funding
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My mom left Jamaica in 1980 because the CIA and KGB pumped a fuck ton of guns into the hands of paramilitaries before the election which just turned into a bloodbath
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Like politics in the third world was just a straight up free-for-all
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Imo I’m skeptical of the feasibility of end-goal communism if for nothing else it’s lack of answer to unequal distribution of political capital as those with control over the capacity to direct economic reinvestment would functionally have the same political capital as capitalists in a market model. Also just because imo the reinvestment rate required for maintaining any society imo makes it difficult for a communist society to eclipse the standards of living under a regulated capitalist market and my burning hatred of Labor Theory of Value which goes against my religion (multivariable calculus)
floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/13/2022 3:41 AM
OH GOD CALCULUS SCgun
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Okay but hear me out. If Capitalism is so great, why don't we have milk flavoring mixes that include lactase. Instantly turning milk into a fantastic flavored beverage that everyone can drink. Side note... anyone want to help me start that company... we could fund a lot of Antifa shit with the profits.
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I know you’re being facetious but the Cold War was the peak of great power shenanigans
rathernot123 12/13/2022 3:46 AM
Also modern gun control cause god forbid African Americans can defend themselves. Also cocaine trafficking cia mainly in poor areas who were African American because of red lining.
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still highly illegal and it fucked with two countries trying to do their own shit, one of which was a perfectly normal democracy before hand
Not denying most of that (though calling Nicaragua a democracy is a bit of a stretch given it only had Ortega as a democratically elected leader for a single year during the scheme, between 79-85 Nicaragua was still a military junta) but I digress I believe the Iran-Contra affair was fucked up on multiple levels but more so in the “great powers are amoral assholes” camp
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Like politics in the third world was just a straight up free-for-all
rathernot123 12/13/2022 3:48 AM
It benifits the us to have them be in bad states there isn’t a single Latin American contry we havnt fucked up in some way when it benifits us
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It benifits the us to have them be in bad states there isn’t a single Latin American contry we havnt fucked up in some way when it benifits us
Ehhhhh it’s a bit more complex than that. I’m not out to defend Plan Condor but I think two things are frequently overstated, the level of involvement had in many of the events in South America especially, and how much of the issues in the LatAm world is directly attributable to intervention vs more systemic issues.
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Chile is a perfect example for instance
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The CIA actually gave the military a coup plan two years before Allende was ousted that the military rejected over disagreements with post-coup restructuring plans. Pinochet’s coup was more so an internal organic event that America acted more as a complicit passive observer than a direct agitator.
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Most of US involvement en post was allowing Chile an open extradition policy and access to intel infrastructure in the region
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Hell even in the personal example I gave with Jamaica relating to my family’s own background while America and the Cubans/Soviets sold the weapons at the end of the day it was the JLP and PNP that armed their voters and the core issue driving conflict in the election was a near total collapse of the Jamaican economy due to systemic budgetary and industrial mismanagement
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Idk when it comes to geopolitics and international political economy there’s a lot of grey areas and lighter shades of black questions… especially with America in the Western hemisphere where it’s continuation of the Monroe Doctrine ranges from objectively horrendous acts such as US neocolonialism in Honduras to net positives for the region such as the Invasion of Granada which was fully greenlit by CARICOM (edited)
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I just think it’s important to recognize where and how American involvement has negatively impacted the region to look for patterns in and resist imperialist actions — but also at the same time make sure to also acknowledge the agency in many of the domestic governments, both left and right in creating the conditions that fuels cycles of violence and poverty in the area.
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Because for the love of god if I hear another fucker defend Peronist Argentina or tell me how “the IMF destroyed Jamaica” they’re getting these hands… and my thesis in a few months when I publish it
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I’m calling it “Seaganomics” btw check it out when I’m done I’ll send a link it’s pretty much a deep dive into the effects of Jamaican economic policy in the 1980’s.
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I’m calling it “Seaganomics” btw check it out when I’m done I’ll send a link it’s pretty much a deep dive into the effects of Jamaican economic policy in the 1980’s.
Looking forward to it.
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Anyways I got completely off track but I think my main point was that I think a distinction needs to be made between being a fascist and a bog standard rightist asshole. Reagan’s ideology was dangerous for society but in a completely different way from fascism, which emphasizes ultranationalism, romanticism and corporatism while Reaganite philosophies leaned more globalist, empirical and objectivist (which is distinct from corporatism because it rejects class structure outright instead of rejecting class conflict but acknowledging class structures). While fascism draws from the most reactionary elements of social conservatism, Reaganism draws from the most reactionary elements of economic liberalism.
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Anyways I got completely off track but I think my main point was that I think a distinction needs to be made between being a fascist and a bog standard rightist asshole. Reagan’s ideology was dangerous for society but in a completely different way from fascism, which emphasizes ultranationalism, romanticism and corporatism while Reaganite philosophies leaned more globalist, empirical and objectivist (which is distinct from corporatism because it rejects class structure outright instead of rejecting class conflict but acknowledging class structures). While fascism draws from the most reactionary elements of social conservatism, Reaganism draws from the most reactionary elements of economic liberalism.
Corpo-fascist is what we used to call the philosophies of that period Republicans and centrist Dems like Biden. No it's not traditional fascism, but it's similar enough.
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Corpo-fascist is what we used to call the philosophies of that period Republicans and centrist Dems like Biden. No it's not traditional fascism, but it's similar enough.
Eh fair I guess, I guess I prefer to make the distinction because I see fascism as uniquely worse than other forms of rightism due to its total rejection of both rationalism and moral responsibility making it completely unbounded to any sort of grounding in reality or accountability.
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I start calling something fascist when it crosses the Schmitt Line
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Once the legal theories of Carl Schmitt become applicable under your ideology you’re now a fascist. (edited)
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BubsyFanboy 12/13/2022 6:33 AM
Tankies when there are protests outside the West.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/13/2022 9:06 AM
FIFPRO is shocked and sickened by reports that professional footballer Amir Nasr-Azadani faces execution in Iran after campaigning for women’s rights and basic freedom in his country. We stand in solidarity with Amir and call for the immediate removal of his punishment.
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/// turn more up on solidarity, turn down on all and even non western imperialism -campism /// https://fightback.org.nz/2022/12/08/for-a-new-internationalism/ (edited)
Existing forms of left internationalism are inadequate, we need a new form.
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I like to remind ya'll, there's still people in Brazil who remember No 6 and 7,
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/13/2022 2:28 PM
The conservative organization "Wake Up WA State" has removed posts from its Facebook page targeting the bar in the wake of the shooting...
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LessthanLoneWolf 12/13/2022 3:04 PM
Unless voters wake up—and Democrats wake them up—we’re on the verge of permanent, minoritarian, single-party rule.
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They're so close
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I mean....
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(not my screenshot btw)
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ironically they become slowly leftist if left to themselves
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usually after a cycle of culture destroying violence tho
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The bill comes after years of broad concern across the Trump and Biden administrations about potential Chinese government influence on the company.
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MisterStompy 12/13/2022 7:11 PM
"People of color protesting is a color revolution!"
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MisterStompy 12/13/2022 7:12 PM
I'm not sure how I feel about this. On the one hand it's obviously being used by the CCP for nefarious shit, but on the other hand it could very easily be modified for an international release, just like YouTube does for China.
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But I mean on the plus side if this passes I won't have to hear any of those obnoxious goddamn tts voices anymore.
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they're mad
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It's not even an amendment, holy s---
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good
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use this hate to force all lgtba+ out to vote
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/13/2022 7:20 PM
honestly, i would be happy if tik tok got the boot
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tbh
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I argue we bring back Vine
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/13/2022 7:20 PM
YES
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tiktok was basically chinese vine anyway
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made in america should also arguably apply to digitial stuff too
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/13/2022 7:21 PM
didn't they buy out music.ly and made it for an american audience
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pretty sure they did
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nope
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Music.ly was a Chinese vine basically thanks to the CCP, but then it ended up popular to they rebranded it as tiktok
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/13/2022 7:22 PM
oh, got it
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also tbh, get rid of tiktok means disinfo gets a HUGE hit
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tiktok was infamous for some antitrans/disinfo hits by Russia and China
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/13/2022 7:24 PM
also
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tik tok in itself
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it's a fucking cancer to society
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/13/2022 7:24 PM
The replies are roasting them and I love it.
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less tiktok means less reasons gen z ain't getting off their asses to vote
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less tiktok means less reasons gen z ain't getting off their asses to vote
AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/13/2022 7:25 PM
and we get smarter
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everyone
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like seriously
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some of the people you see in there?
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it's surprising they aren't plants because of how simple their minds are
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see my point about less reasons
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I'm convinced that tiktok social media is a big factor why Gen Z ain't getting off their ass and actually contributing to both local and larger society until the Roe fuckery the supreme court did forced them too
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That said, one idea I have mused is someone should make a tiktok clone that's intentionally somewhat decentralized but very left leaning lowkey
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especially if tiktok does get banned
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they WILL flock there
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tiktok was also a factor in how Gen Z also teamed up and voted
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Respect for Marriage act is now law, the Supreme Court can kiss Biden's ass
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Insights from African hunter-gatherer culture on how to retool social media for reduced influence of property (capitalism) and authority (fascism). https://youtu.be/P4SDBVaUboc
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MisterStompy 12/13/2022 9:51 PM
oh fuck they got us
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oh fuck they got us
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/13/2022 9:52 PM
"The Patriot Barbie"
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Do I even want to know?
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....... what? How is that supposed to help?
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All that does is make reasonable people think of you a weirdo and gives whoever that walking mental disorder's kid is embarrassment
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oh fuck they got us
AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/13/2022 10:01 PM
this is straight out of the onion
10:01 PM
america really has become a parody
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MisterStompy 12/13/2022 10:40 PM
At this point, the pro-LGBTQ counterprotest appears to be five times the size of the anti-LGBTQ protest outside the drag show at the Aztec Theatre in San Antonio, Texas.
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oh fuck they got us
Insert reference to Nick Fuentes’s catboy porn collection
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Insert reference to Nick Fuentes’s catboy porn collection
I'm sorry saw what now?
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I'm sorry saw what now?
Once sec
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I'm sorry saw what now?
So I don’t know if you know this, but word on the street through the grapevine and on the block is that Nick Fuentes, the far-right…
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....... what the absolute f---
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Album of highlights from the catboy channel on his discord (edited)
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Every_Right_wing_extremist.jpg
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To be fair to the Wahhabists they have more standards of enforcing their backwards ""morals"" than our far right
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As far as I'm aware
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Of course as we see in Iran that does jack s--- in practice
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oh fuck they got us
Grooming my children into your sick bimbo fetish, eh?
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MisterStompy 12/14/2022 1:13 AM
lmao
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BubsyFanboy 12/14/2022 3:33 AM
https://www-onet-pl.translate.goog/informacje/onetwiadomosci/pis-kapituluje-przed-bruksela-onet-zdobyl-sensacyjne-dokumenty-dotyczace-kpo/e8j7rsv,79cfc278?_x_tr_sl=pl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pl&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Onet journalists obtained documents describing the prepared compromise between PiS and Brussels regarding the payment of money from the National Reconstruction Plan. These are sensational documents - because they show that PiS makes fundamental concessions on the courts in order to get billions of euros. The first bill implementing this compromise was submitted to the Sejm during the night.
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A new Indiana state law lets citizens shoot police officers. The state now allows people to use deadly force to keep public servants from illegally entering their homes or cars. Police are not happy with the new law.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/14/2022 11:23 AM
lawyers are about to have a field day
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Denmark has a new government after weeks of negotiations that will bring together a left-right political alliance between the Moderates, the Social Democrats and the Liberals, prime minister Mette Frederiksen…
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Will be interesting to see how this turns out
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Especially since the succs and libs have very different views on immigration policy, I guess we’ll see how long this lasts
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....... the heck?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/14/2022 5:52 PM
This is definately a conbination of a lot of things 1.Bad Household gun handling 2.Bad parenting 3.Probably something related to the kid's mental health
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the little psycho ordered the vr thing the NEXT DAY
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and after apologizing to his grandma he asked if the vr headset was still coming
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This is why I want guns to be insured and have a license
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If any you fucks got a posse to form in Texas for the trans folk's defense, do so now (edited)
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Like...this is actually breaking the 14th amendment here
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meaning even if the Supreme court tries their shit, its very limited because its fed law now
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like if I was Biden I get the fucking National guard draggin Ken Paxton's ass dragged to the Gulag Guantamino bay for the crime of trying to commit and plan mass murder of American citizens
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MisterStompy 12/14/2022 8:46 PM
oh no
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@elonmusk This rule literally violates the First Amendment
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oh no
AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/14/2022 8:48 PM
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at this point
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what billionaire has not been to that hellhole
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what billionaire has not been to that hellhole
MisterStompy 12/14/2022 8:51 PM
Mark Cuban and MAYBE Bill Gates, but he's always a possibility.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/14/2022 8:51 PM
true
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MisterStompy 12/14/2022 8:52 PM
The thing with Bill Gates is the way he acted when talking about Epstein could either be guilt bubbling to the surface, but he just kind of acts that way in general because he's got autism so who knows.
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like if I was Biden I get the fucking National guard draggin Ken Paxton's ass dragged to the Gulag Guantamino bay for the crime of trying to commit and plan mass murder of American citizens
Biden cannot control National Guard forces without Governors approval.
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Executive Order 10730
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Biden can federalize the National guard
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which is what Eisenhower did during the Little Rock Nine situation
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arkansas gov tried to use the National guard to block black students going to school. Eisenhower federalized them and ordered them to guard the students to school and any attempt to stop them is dealt with immediately
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If you want a civil war... that's how you'll get a civil war. Force Texas NG to go against Texas government.
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bold of you to assume Texas NG even has the capacity to fight the rest of the army
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considering their cops are cowards
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bold of you to assume Texas NG even has the capacity to fight the rest of the army
The Army cannot deploy on US soil without violating the constitution except in the case of a declared war.
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and human rights violations of US citizens isn't?
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we have declared war over less
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Not according to constitutional law it's not.
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And it would have to be a declared war by Texas against the USA... the Federal Government cannot declare war against a State.
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plus, technically the feds would be in the right, because the State governor is trying to overturn fed orders
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in this case, Trans people are US citizens
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we have declared war over less
Matter of geopolitical convenience. Anytime we've done that it was as an excuse.
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and this is still a geopolitical situation. If US is held up with red states going full fashy, then they can't help Ukraine
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plus, technically the feds would be in the right, because the State governor is trying to overturn fed orders
Doesn't mean the US Government could deploy soliders at Fort Hood to do anything outside of Fort Hood.
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and Russia is weak af rn
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I think your underestimating just how piss the feds would be if they would do this shit
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Biden's old, but he grew up cold war
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man lowkey got some warhawk in him
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I think your underestimating just how piss the feds would be if they would do this shit
I think you are overestimating how much the Feds care about transfolk.
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man lowkey got some warhawk in him
MisterStompy 12/14/2022 9:09 PM
There's a reason they call him Belgrade Biden.
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The US federal government might be an ally of convenience against Christo-fascists in the US... but they are fascist too when it all comes down to it. Biden is one of the biggest corpo-fascists fucks there is. (edited)
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ironically even factoring the assumption, they still wouldn't want Texas to do it. because it open the floodgates for other states What if, HYPOTHETICALLY New Mexico decides "you know what? Fuck Texans. All texans should be rounded up and shot. Waste of space anyway" and proceeds to do that first with the texans in their borders for any reason. Inevitably, they escalate into texas AS PURELY HYPOTHETICAL I like to emphasis (edited)
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that's the issue feds want and should stop
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escalation
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Christo-fascists will control the house when it comes back into session. Biden has no power.
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texas likewise, I wouldn't be surprise try to invade New Mexico to try to off their trans folk too
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GOP got no Senate
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they don't got shit either
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in fact, the house is arguably the weakest political part
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But they can block anything... and they can impeach Biden... just not convict him.
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need the senate to do shit and dems are already blocking anything and everything
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and next election looks bad for the gop seats too
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especially in states with now dem gov
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GOP got their ass kicked in. Yeah they got the house
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Christo-fascists control the US Supreme Court, and will control the House. That's enough to block anything Biden does, and stop anything the Senate tries.
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but lost the senate, now have a enraged voter based against them and just keep pissing everyone off
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US Supreme Court can only argue interpretations of the law
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they need a vibe check, but can't actually make the law
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US Supreme Court can only argue interpretations of the law
Negative... Presidential Orders are subject to review upon submission by the SCOTUS.
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So all it takes is a fash lawyer filing an injunction to stop a presidential order and it goes before the SCOTUS
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that said, Marriage act was also a show of force. It basically forced Loving and Gay marriage off the SCOTUS table. They could repeal it but trying a outright ban is impossible now
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considering Trump's legal team, I don't doubt fashy won't be violently seize power, but fashy lawyers are dumb as shit lowkey
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see Arizona
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that said, Marriage act was also a show of force. It basically forced Loving and Gay marriage off the SCOTUS table. They could repeal it but trying a outright ban is impossible now
On the federal level. It still allows states to stop issuing licenses once the original ruling is overturned like RvW was.
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considering Trump's legal team, I don't doubt fashy won't be violently seize power, but fashy lawyers are dumb as shit lowkey
Those dumb as shit lawyers got Roe v Wade overturned and in the process opened the door for a dozen others... don't underestimate them.
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yeah. But how long before some guy in CA makes online marriage licenses a thing
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yeah. But how long before some guy in CA makes online marriage licenses a thing
If they do it, it'll only be because someone can profit from it.
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also tbh if Loving gets overturned that will cause a fucking military mutiny
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Do you know how many poc and mixed race people are in the military?*
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Do you know how many poc and mixed race people are in the military?*
I actually served... so yes.
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like the SCOTUS might be dumb enough to target Obgerfell still but Loving is how you get have the nation to try to kill the other
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like the SCOTUS might be dumb enough to target Obgerfell still but Loving is how you get have the nation to try to kill the other
Literally their goal.
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not the half they think
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The best thing that could happen to white fascists right now would be for POC to act offensively with violence. It would be an optics goldmine for them/. (edited)
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Military is already starting to force anti-abortion states into exceptions for active military
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honestly I figure if the SCOTUS keeps fucking around, they gonna find out in the worse way possible tbh
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honestly I figure if the SCOTUS keeps fucking around, they gonna find out in the worse way possible tbh
You know who suffers most if this shit blows up? People white power wants to suffer. All the neighborhoods behind the Troost Wall in Kansas City... just as one example.
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The best thing that could happen to white fascists right now would be for POC to act offensively with violence. It would be an optics goldmine for them/. (edited)
they're telling that narrative already
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they're telling that narrative already
Exactly... if they could start parading bodies out proving it they would cream their fucking shorts.
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so what do you recommend?
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so what do you recommend?
Outside of my recommendation of building safe haven collectives and a network to get people to safety in them... any suggestions I have are not for public discourse.
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But I will say this. I'm shocked these people are still breathing. And we'd probably be a lot better off if they weren't.
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Electorally there is nothing that can be done at state or federal level, gerrymandering and corruption have solved that... most local level politics are too far gone as well. We've got ourselves, and the things we can do together as individuals. And that's literally all we can rely on.
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The best thing that could happen to white fascists right now would be for POC to act offensively with violence. It would be an optics goldmine for them/. (edited)
floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/14/2022 9:42 PM
have you heard their rhetoric on violent crime?
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they’re already spinning that story
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/14/2022 9:45 PM
Always have been.
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They can't shut up about "Biden's Border Disaster" on Fox.
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they’re already spinning that story
It would have a lot more weight if they could parade a pretty white girl's corpse out as a victim caught in the cross fire.
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And they know that.
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(he's not doing great)
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Part of me want to suggest we buy the shares rn if on the off chance we get Telsa or SpaceX out of Musk's hands, it will be instantly a lot more valuable. But on the other hand, Musk is speed running how to ruin a franchise
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Turns out "go woke go broke" goes both ways!
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Ehehehe
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I’m just saying the french revolution is looking pretty attractive lately
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AldotheApache 12/15/2022 9:24 AM
We managed to fight this off in lame duck and the opposition outed themselves on their true intentions. https://www.reddit.com/r/Ohio/comments/zmk5ww/reasons_confirmed_for_60_vote_to_amend/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/15/2022 10:20 AM
I think we should be doing more to educate people between the difference of Cultural Appropriation and Cultural Appreciation, the first term has pretty much lost meaning among the general public as it gets thrown around, sometimes it's correct, but sometimes it's not. Plus Cultural Appreciation can be a beautiful thing if done right, something we should also educate people how to do correctly
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Part of me want to suggest we buy the shares rn if on the off chance we get Telsa or SpaceX out of Musk's hands, it will be instantly a lot more valuable. But on the other hand, Musk is speed running how to ruin a franchise
One of the most plausible explanations I've seen for why investors funded Elmo's insanely overpriced purchase of Twitter is that they're hoping, by allowing him to overleverage Tesla stock so badly, the price of Tesla shares will drop enough that they can buy up a controlling interest.
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Which tbh is a brilliant move
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I saw we buy stock to fuck them over both
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But like
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Only if you got money willing to burn
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Status hierarchies are intrinsically weak.
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Yup
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MisterStompy 12/15/2022 1:08 PM
holy shit this guy is such a goofball https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944
Last night, car carrying lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving & climbed onto hood. Legal action is being taken against Sweeney & organizations who supported harm to my family.
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BubsyFanboy 12/15/2022 2:08 PM
Latest news from Ukraine today. EU adopts EUR 18 bn aid package for Ukraine after Poland drops veto. Follow updates on Euromaidan Press.
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Black Americans support significant reforms to several institutions to ensure fair treatment. Yet even as they assess inequality and ideas about progress, many are pessimistic that society will change in ways that would reduce racism.
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Interesting stuff
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it begins
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ah shit wrong link
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sorta
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The FBI has warned about the possibility of surveillance and "influence operations" by China's government.
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here
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well we could do what we did to Germany post WWII....lowkey generally traumatize/educate the shit out of the children to not commit war crimes again or else but still let them live their lives
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guerilla tactics and a strong local support are needed to enforce Time to run for a schoolboard position
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well we could do what we did to Germany post WWII....lowkey generally traumatize/educate the shit out of the children to not commit war crimes again or else but still let them live their lives
Ngl not sure how related that is to what I linked
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I just thought it was interesting looking at current sentiments within the black community, especially given Pew does pretty impressive granular breakdowns
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basically, I argue left/poc/lgbta need to invest not just in state elections, but local too. If they want to strangle future racism, they need to flood the local elections. Especially school boards
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basically, I argue left/poc/lgbta need to invest not just in state elections, but local too. If they want to strangle future racism, they need to flood the local elections. Especially school boards
Ah gotcha
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This I think is absolutely fascinating though
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Police reform has a near 90% appeal to black voters but only 23% support police budget cuts
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For electoral reasons I think that's important for messaging - as to focus more on crim justice & prison overhaul which seems to be more broadly popular then deal with policing after where policy reform interpretations seem to be more divisive (edited)
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I'm partial to the "the cops are part of the problem and need to be aggressively overhauled. Do not listen to them say otherwise and give them time to hide their messes"
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Police reform has a near 90% appeal to black voters but only 23% support police budget cuts
floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/15/2022 3:35 PM
black voters would be disproportionately effected by victimizing crime, no? as Black people are disproportionately impoverished, and poverty leads to both more crime and crime victimization. and since police are very widely considered to be preventing crime, of course then they wouldn’t want to do budget cuts
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if only people saw how insanely superfluous police spending is
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they don’t need to be getting new cars every year, for example. maybe every 3 or 4 considering the wear out on them, but certainly not every year.
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my local cops all have 2022-2021 model cars in an area with insanely low crime rate
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mean while the fire department just replaced their 10 year old ladder truck and will have vacant bays in their 3 newest stations, and EMTs for the ambulance service get paid $16.50 an hour (edited)
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and they’re only buying one new fire engine, they’re using the old reserve engine for the other new station
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they don’t need to be getting new cars every year, for example. maybe every 3 or 4 considering the wear out on them, but certainly not every year.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/15/2022 3:39 PM
too, my local police departments don’t need fully geared SWAT teams yet that’s what they have
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when they’d be perfectly fine leaving it to the big city cops or even county sheriff which makes the most sense (edited)
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when they’d be perfectly fine leaving it to the big city cops or even county sheriff which makes the most sense (edited)
I’ve heard some interesting arguments when the topic of community policing came up that over-devolution of US policing is a driving problem of incompetence, corruption, clientelism, unaccountability etc.
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Basically that US enforcement admin is so aggressively localized and decentralized that it makes implementation of budgetary and training standards effectively moot, and makes oversight very difficult to account for and impossible to enforce corrective actions outside of high-profile situations where public discontent reaches critical points
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That's because they are all a bunch of brownshirts.
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They need to be dominated, but when their needs aren't met, they dominate others... Like a sick and twisted kind of golden rule.
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funny. I can say the same shit with someone like Matt Walsh
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I want his ass wiped off of the census
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I concur with Monsieur
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MisterStompy 12/17/2022 2:53 AM
Matt Walsh is probably a pedophile.
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MisterStompy 12/17/2022 2:54 AM
Also of course he'd fantasize about a cop doing it instead of himself, if he did it he'd get the shit beaten out of him.
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Matt Walsh is probably a pedophile.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/17/2022 2:56 AM
He is. Remember how he said 16 year olds are "at their most fertile"?
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He is. Remember how he said 16 year olds are "at their most fertile"?
MisterStompy 12/17/2022 2:56 AM
Also "adolescence is a modern invention"
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/17/2022 2:57 AM
It's like he puts every inch of effort into being the most repugnant shithead imaginable.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/17/2022 3:46 AM
Because the South Dakota State University students played host to a kid-friendly drag event, somebody sent a bomb threat targeting the LGBTQ+ group.
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someone aught contact chuds on tiktok
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A bomb threat is a credible threat of violence which can justify self defense.
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Just saying.
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insert this is not legal advice disclaimer here
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not on a campus unless like
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you catch the dude in the act
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People tend to confuse legal with ethical and only accept something as ethical if it is legal. I don't. Someone makes a habit out of terrorizing people, they are a direct threat to the lives of innocent people and it is self defense to end that capacity for terror.
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While that might not be legal... it does result in less suffering than allowing the terrorism to continue.
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Even if the result is a good person going to jail or dying, the suffering is taken upon them, not allowed to be enacted upon innocent people. (edited)
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We're dealing with people who patently don't give a fuck about what is legal. And they do illegal things which cause suffering to others. They consent to whatever like retaliation that brings by enacting actions which cause the suffering of innocent people.
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Some bonehead shows up at a show and starts punching people or threatening to rape people (seen first hand), they get beat to the point where they cannot harm anyone. It's literally that simple.
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And it should be that impersonal as well. Do a thing, pay the price, can't do the thing anymore.
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Someone was discussing the current state of affairs in Peru. A friend of mine who lives there wrote this lengthy explainer to give background and context to the major players. I found it more helpful in understanding the situation than anything else I’ve seen. https://wandering.shop/@abbysyarns/109508827086562582 (edited)
1. Here is my best attempt at a very brief, and very neutral explanation of what is going on in Peru right now. It is still 37 toots long, so buckle up. Let me start by saying that I grew up in Peru in the Cusco region where I have lived permanently again since 2018. I am not a journalist or political analyst, just a person who lives here, and ...
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/17/2022 11:50 PM
Elon, I think you said the quiet part out loud.
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and that's a lawsuit
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LessthanLoneWolf 12/17/2022 11:59 PM
If he truly believes that, I have some waterfront property to sell him. In Albuquerque
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this isnt real please tell me this is fake
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I doubt
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although regardless, he just earned himself a lawsuit and a FTC investigation
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section 203 legal quagmire is a bitch for both sides
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I deleted my twitter so I only get screenshots of his stupid fucking tweets now
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Tbh though it was for the better
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this isnt real please tell me this is fake
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/18/2022 1:47 AM
Yeah I looked deeper into this, it's fake.
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I'll take the L on this one.
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Honestly not even your fault, it's incredibly real looking
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/18/2022 10:34 AM
Donald Trump is urging his followers on Truth Social that the “weaponized thugs and tyrants” in the FBI and DOJ “must be dealt with.”
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Elon, I think you said the quiet part out loud.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/18/2022 12:33 PM
yeah that’s not how he types bro
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 12/18/2022 3:08 PM
Did you guys hear what Kanye West said?
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Did you guys hear what Kanye West said?
Oh God what did he say now??
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 12/18/2022 3:15 PM
He said he likes [austrian mustache guy]
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He also said he was gonna go "death con 3" on jews...
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"Every human being has something of value that they brought to the table.... especially [austrian mustache man]" (edited)
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Oh, that's been known for a while now
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That's soooo last month. (edited)
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 12/18/2022 3:35 PM
Oh yeah that I almost forgot
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Did you guys hear what Kanye West said?
AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/18/2022 9:15 PM
damn, you had me thinking something new happened
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RIP Kanye, 19??-2022
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Burned all the bridges he had and got shunned by damn near everybody except Alex Jones and Nick Fuentes. Even Trump doesn't want to be associated with him anymore. All you gotta do is shrink or take away remaining platforms and influence and he'll just be completely irrelevant
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Not much else to say about him tbh
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/19/2022 5:20 PM
Earlier this year, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton’s (R) office requested the state Department of Public Safety to compile a list of transgender residents in the state, a DPS official confirmed to the Washington Post in a Wednesday report. A spokesperson for DPS told the Post that Paxton’s office made “a verbal request” calling for the total n...
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And that's how you lose your National guard privileges (edited)
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Like someone getting shot
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I found these parts in the artical
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All of which are now under fed investigation
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They are obnoxiously slow, but there is a real chance Texas about fuck around and find out
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Still fucked and I want Ken Paxton's head on a spike
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Yea. My point is that the list was never given to Paxton's office
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Which is good
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But yeah like
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If I was Biden, I be ordering Paxton to have some visit from some well dressed men in black
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Concur.
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Not only is it LITERALLY violating several amendments, it's definitely violating the due process of law (the Warrent for the list was bunk) and definitely violated several fed laws
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Like Hard laws
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Even the SCOTUS got its hands tied if he tried shit
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They can try
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But doing so would make it a state free for all
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So the good news is: it didn’t work The bad news is: … this time.
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If Biden wasn't trying to secure his place in heaven you know damn well he'd be all about rounding up LGBTQIA folks and murdering them. He just has the guilt of millions of imprisoned and dead POC folks on his conscience right now... because he suspects God isn't gonna be too happy with his oppression of them. He isn't gonna bend over backwards to do shit about this... He didn't even force Dems to ensure protection of access to marriage licenses in the most recent showboating play they made.
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If Biden wasn't trying to secure his place in heaven you know damn well he'd be all about rounding up LGBTQIA folks and murdering them. He just has the guilt of millions of imprisoned and dead POC folks on his conscience right now... because he suspects God isn't gonna be too happy with his oppression of them. He isn't gonna bend over backwards to do shit about this... He didn't even force Dems to ensure protection of access to marriage licenses in the most recent showboating play they made.
I’m a faggot and I don’t get this at all. I don’t think that Biden is going to go war to protect queer people, but I also don’t believe that he’s ideologically aligned with the Greg Abbotts and Ken Paxtons of this world. I do count myself as significantly safer under his watch than under any number of republicans I could name and more than a few democrats. Respect, but I’m just kinda puzzled.
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I’m a faggot and I don’t get this at all. I don’t think that Biden is going to go war to protect queer people, but I also don’t believe that he’s ideologically aligned with the Greg Abbotts and Ken Paxtons of this world. I do count myself as significantly safer under his watch than under any number of republicans I could name and more than a few democrats. Respect, but I’m just kinda puzzled.
Just saying... don't count on him going to bat for you, or me, or any other member of the queer community. Remember this is a rapist, who authored the most draconian crime bill of US history we're talking about. And just about jizzed his pants when he was able to vote for the Patriot Act. (edited)
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There isn't a very large ideological gap between trumpers and Biden... both fascist... just different nuances.
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Quick question to gauge your view, is there any states or political parties on the global stage you don’t view as fascist?
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Just saying... don't count on him going to bat for you, or me, or any other member of the queer community. Remember this is a rapist, who authored the most draconian crime bill of US history we're talking about. And just about jizzed his pants when he was able to vote for the Patriot Act. (edited)
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/19/2022 11:49 PM
Where'd the "rapist" part come from?
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Where'd the "rapist" part come from?
Tara Reade iirc
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A number of those who crossed paths with Biden’s accuser say they remember two things: She spoke favorably about her time working for Biden, and she left them feeling duped.
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During the 2020 election campaign for President of the United States in March 2020, Tara Reade, a former staffer in Joe Biden's U.S. Senate office, alleged that Biden, the former U.S. vice president and Democratic nominee in the 2020 presidential election, sexually assaulted her in 1993 in a Capitol Hill office building when she was a staff assi...
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If Biden wasn't trying to secure his place in heaven you know damn well he'd be all about rounding up LGBTQIA folks and murdering them. He just has the guilt of millions of imprisoned and dead POC folks on his conscience right now... because he suspects God isn't gonna be too happy with his oppression of them. He isn't gonna bend over backwards to do shit about this... He didn't even force Dems to ensure protection of access to marriage licenses in the most recent showboating play they made.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/20/2022 12:27 AM
Uh... isn't Biden's health secretary openly gay?
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I have serious doubts as to how legitimate that accusation is https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/15/tara-reade-left-trail-of-aggrieved-acquaintances-260771
As a male victim of rape... with all due respect. Fuck you.
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Uh... isn't Biden's health secretary openly gay?
Tokenism is real, and not confined to black folks.
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Tokenism is real, and not confined to black folks.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/20/2022 12:50 AM
I'm just saying, if he really hates gays as much as you say he does, why would he put one in a position of authority? Also: https://amview.japan.usembassy.gov/en/biden-administration-appoints-record-number-of-lgbtqi-officials/
The United States currently has its most diverse administration ever, including the most LGBTQI+ officials. This follows the administration’s commitment to “ensure that United States diplomacy and …
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As a male victim of rape... with all due respect. Fuck you.
So you're believing a lie? You do know this does more damage to rape victims like you than helps, right? Reade lied about her own professional credentials, her story makes no sense, the witnesses she has named have all come out against her, She's another Candace Owens and I do not trust her in the slightest that she's telling the truth and not making s--- up.
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I'm just saying, if he really hates gays as much as you say he does, why would he put one in a position of authority? Also: https://amview.japan.usembassy.gov/en/biden-administration-appoints-record-number-of-lgbtqi-officials/
Because that's what Democrats do... it's called tokenism.
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So you're believing a lie? You do know this does more damage to rape victims like you than helps, right? Reade lied about her own professional credentials, her story makes no sense, the witnesses she has named have all come out against her, She's another Candace Owens and I do not trust her in the slightest that she's telling the truth and not making s--- up.
I literally don't give a fuck what you have to say on the subject of sexual abuse or rape. I've had people say the same thing you did initially about me, and friends of mine... including a friend who's rapist I threw down a flight of stairs after pulling him off her. She was accused of lying. I was accused of lying about what I saw... and that was just a fucking goth club owner. This is fucking Biden.
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Because that's what Democrats do... it's called tokenism.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/20/2022 12:56 AM
Would you prefer them call for their deaths like the GOP and their base are now doing constantly? Politicians suck, I get that, but holy shit does this both-sides-ism help no one and nothing. (edited)
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As a male victim of rape... with all due respect. Fuck you.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/20/2022 12:57 AM
Also, as a man falsely accused of sexual harassment, screw you too. (edited)
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Also, as a man falsely accused of sexual harassment, screw you too. (edited)
Yeah been there too. Don't give a fuck I still believe a victim before some man in power.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/20/2022 1:01 AM
Being in a position of power isn't the same thing as proof of guilt.
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Would you prefer them call for their deaths like the GOP and their base are now doing constantly? Politicians suck, I get that, but holy shit does this both-sides-ism help no one and nothing. (edited)
I don't think Dems care enough about LGBTQIA to want them dead. All queer folk are to them is a means of manipulating political capital. They would and have sold us out when it suited their purpose. Don't think because they appoint a handful of them it means they give a fuck about the rest. That does mean they are less of an immediate threat. But it doesn't mean they aren't a fucking threat. Literally every civil rights leader of the 60's warned us all about them. Was MLK participating in Both-sides-ism?
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Being in a position of power isn't the same thing as proof of guilt.
But it does mean they never see a fucking courtroom.
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Jesus christ, they haven't gotten Trump into one yet... you think someone like Biden would ever see a criminal court? Trump just said the quiet part out loud about being rich and powerful when he boasted he could kill someone in the street in NYC and get away with it.
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I don't think Dems care enough about LGBTQIA to want them dead. All queer folk are to them is a means of manipulating political capital. They would and have sold us out when it suited their purpose. Don't think because they appoint a handful of them it means they give a fuck about the rest. That does mean they are less of an immediate threat. But it doesn't mean they aren't a fucking threat. Literally every civil rights leader of the 60's warned us all about them. Was MLK participating in Both-sides-ism?
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/20/2022 1:07 AM
"If Biden wasn't trying to secure his place in heaven you know damn well he'd be all about rounding up LGBTQIA folks and murdering them." Your words. Not mine.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
"If Biden wasn't trying to secure his place in heaven you know damn well he'd be all about rounding up LGBTQIA folks and murdering them." Your words. Not mine.
Okay a bit of hyperbole, sue me. You want to fucking cherry pick the point. Be my guest... but it's not going to result in a valuable conversation.
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The point is, Biden is a capitalist who is doing what is best for him... and that isn't best for us. It might not be as immediately dangerous for us as the Christo-fascist GOP. But within our lifetime both parties will lead us to mass death by starvation and worse.
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They both ARE currently doing so.
1:11 AM
Democrats aren't our salvation... they are just the slow road to the same chaos the GOP wants to take us the fast route to.
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But it does mean they never see a fucking courtroom.
Some of these celebrities were the victims of false allegations, while others were found guilty of rape and molestation. Which famous people have been accused ...
1:15 AM
Explain this then Spinner
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The point is, Biden is a capitalist who is doing what is best for him... and that isn't best for us. It might not be as immediately dangerous for us as the Christo-fascist GOP. But within our lifetime both parties will lead us to mass death by starvation and worse.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/20/2022 1:15 AM
I wasn't arguing against that. What I WAS arguing against is you trying to paint him as just as bad as Trump which, while Biden has some glaring flaws to put it mildly, is the epitome of false equivalency.
1:16 AM
Again, I am painfully aware that politicians in general suck ass (edited)
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So far in that list the only person who had equivalent political and financial power to Biden is Al Gore... who never saw a courtroom. (edited)
1:19 AM
in fact the overwhelming majority of that list are black men, and only a couple of others even saw a courtroom, and even most of those never saw court. Quite a few more on that list are public indecency charges... Pee Wee Herman and Jim Morrison in particular. So I'm not seeing a strong case here.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/20/2022 1:20 AM
Was Harvey Weinstein not just convicted today?
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I guess he was... great 3 charges of rape out of how many, and how many decades did it take? And how much financial power did he have to lose before he ever saw a courtroom? I put him in the same league as Bill Cosby... not a US Senator and later Vice President. (edited)
1:22 AM
But still... one white man with a modicum of power being convicted... when there are a dozen others in that list who got off without any time... or in fact ever seeing a courtroom.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/20/2022 1:24 AM
Don't move the goalposts. You said people in power NEVER see a courtroom and I have provided evidence that that isn't true.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Don't move the goalposts. You said people in power NEVER see a courtroom and I have provided evidence that that isn't true.
Oh great you found the exception to the rule. Good for you.
1:25 AM
Way to uphold patriarchal rape culture by owning the guy pointing out that it exists.
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Good job.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/20/2022 1:27 AM
Okay. Fuck you. You clearly are just looking for a reason to be mad.
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Also cherry picking... the point wasn't the fucking finality of the word never, it was the protection power affords people in power... I don't know if you actually missed that, or overtly ignored it.
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For what it's worth, I understand first hand how much it sucks to be accused of something like sexual harassment. My instance of that happening led me to a several year exploration of myself and my prior experiences and how they might have influenced how I spoke, or acted, or behaved. I came out the other side learning that even though that accusation was false, I had participated in toxic sexual culture by virtue of my own sexual abuse experiences. It wasn't easy, at times looking back on the toxicity of my actions made me want to kill myself... But I started to really understand how much I have in common with female victims of sexual abuse/assault/rape... and learning just how fucking deeply people try to deny the reality of it happening on an hourly if not minute by minute basis in this country.
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For what it's worth, I understand first hand how much it sucks to be accused of something like sexual harassment. My instance of that happening led me to a several year exploration of myself and my prior experiences and how they might have influenced how I spoke, or acted, or behaved. I came out the other side learning that even though that accusation was false, I had participated in toxic sexual culture by virtue of my own sexual abuse experiences. It wasn't easy, at times looking back on the toxicity of my actions made me want to kill myself... But I started to really understand how much I have in common with female victims of sexual abuse/assault/rape... and learning just how fucking deeply people try to deny the reality of it happening on an hourly if not minute by minute basis in this country.
Dr_Diskette 12/20/2022 1:40 AM
Ok lets all calm down here a bit
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Dr_Diskette 12/20/2022 1:48 AM
@Spinner If dems are nazis and Reps are nazis then what is your alternative, Im queer. never once have I felt that the biden admin or the main caucus members of the dem party would throw us under the bus. as well as the rape allegation stuff, They should always be taken seriously, but if there is no verifiable proof then it is a false allegation. No one here is saying don't believe rape victims they are saying that this was investigated and there was no substantial proof of it. We allow discourse and debate on things like this, but hostility is never allowed. I'm gonna ask everyone to please keep it civil
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@Spinner If dems are nazis and Reps are nazis then what is your alternative, Im queer. never once have I felt that the biden admin or the main caucus members of the dem party would throw us under the bus. as well as the rape allegation stuff, They should always be taken seriously, but if there is no verifiable proof then it is a false allegation. No one here is saying don't believe rape victims they are saying that this was investigated and there was no substantial proof of it. We allow discourse and debate on things like this, but hostility is never allowed. I'm gonna ask everyone to please keep it civil
That implied question at the beginning doesn't seem to be an actual question. Care to rephrase? regarding the bus... The democrats crafted a bill which allows states to deny queer folk marriage certificates once the Supreme Court overturns one case... which is in the works already. All the bill does is ensure what the constitution already ensures... that a legal contract in one state is upheld in all (in this specific case that of same sex marriage as a legal contract). So they already threw queer folks in red states under the bus... just not the ones currently married there. All the ones that are growing up or still single now, or who will get divorced and want to remarry someone else. As for Tara Reade... I must have missed where there was a House investigation or Grand Jury... Also for the 7 other people who've accused Biden of sexual misconduct too. So I guess I missed where it was investigated through the justice system. I googled and couldn't find any Grand Jury findings on the subject of Biden. Nor do I recall a grand jury hearing on the subject of Tara Reade (or anyone else's accusations for that matter.) (edited)
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Dr_Diskette 12/20/2022 2:10 AM
you talk of Dems as if at a drop of a hat, they would let us all die. I don't even need to explain why republicans are seen as Nazis. So what is your alternative then voting for democrats? A third Party? In my opinion there was a 0% chance the democrats would be able to get a bill passed that federally protects Gay marriage, no matter what they did or SCOTUS will intervene on it. And yes, there wasn't a house investigation about the allegations, however when news outlets don't even see enough evidence to make an article about it something they would always have a vested interest in doing considering news outlets are always trying to get clicks why bring it to a full investigation "Laura McGann of Vox detailed her attempts to verify Reade's story and her frustration as a professional journalist wanting to break the story but not being able to get enough corroborating evidence to do so, as reporters were able to do for the accusations against Harvey Weinstein and Charlie Rose. As a result, Vox did not publish anything about Reade in 2019. Neither did The New York Times, The Washington Post, and the Associated Press, who were also pursuing the story." and where are these 7 other allegations?
2:11 AM
"In the April 12 New York Times article, Reade named three aides that she asserted she complained to about harassment by Biden, but not sexual assault. In the same article, these three aides denied Reade's assertion. Ted Kaufman, Biden's chief of staff at the time, said: "I did not know her. She did not come to me. If she had, I would have remembered her."[14] Former deputy chief of staff, Dennis Toner, said "It's just so preposterous that Senator Biden would be faced with these allegations. I don't remember her. I don't remember this conversation. And I would remember this conversation."[14] Biden's campaign released a statement from Marianne Baker, Biden's former executive assistant: "I never once witnessed, or heard of, or received, any reports of inappropriate conduct, period – not from Ms. Reade, not from anyone. I have absolutely no knowledge or memory of Ms. Reade's accounting of events, which would have left a searing impression on me as a woman professional, and as a manager."[14] Separately, Melissa Lefko, a contemporary staff assistant, said she had never experienced harassment and thought his office was a "very supportive environment for women" Cont. about interviews about the allegations
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By Lisa Lerer and Sydney Ember
Ms. Reade, a former Senate aide, has accused Mr. Biden of assaulting her in 1993 and says she told others about it. A Biden spokeswoman said the allegation is false, and former Senate office staff members do not recall such an incident.
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Tara Reade, who worked in Joe Biden's Senate office, has accused the presumptive Democratic nominee of a 1993 sexual assault. His campaign said it "absolutely did not happen."
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In a lighter moment and it was fun. Gratitude. Serious talk but some laughs too. It was such an honor to meet @TuckerCarlson and discuss important topics. Support the truth tellers!
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also this doesn't help her credibility
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you talk of Dems as if at a drop of a hat, they would let us all die. I don't even need to explain why republicans are seen as Nazis. So what is your alternative then voting for democrats? A third Party? In my opinion there was a 0% chance the democrats would be able to get a bill passed that federally protects Gay marriage, no matter what they did or SCOTUS will intervene on it. And yes, there wasn't a house investigation about the allegations, however when news outlets don't even see enough evidence to make an article about it something they would always have a vested interest in doing considering news outlets are always trying to get clicks why bring it to a full investigation "Laura McGann of Vox detailed her attempts to verify Reade's story and her frustration as a professional journalist wanting to break the story but not being able to get enough corroborating evidence to do so, as reporters were able to do for the accusations against Harvey Weinstein and Charlie Rose. As a result, Vox did not publish anything about Reade in 2019. Neither did The New York Times, The Washington Post, and the Associated Press, who were also pursuing the story." and where are these 7 other allegations?
Sorry it's late, your lack of line breaks makes that too hard for my old eyes to read. I'm going to leave it on this. Do you honestly believe that the system built upon white supremacy slavery and capitalism will protect you and us from climate change, or fascism? Democrats are defenders of that system as it is. I have devoted my entire life (soon to be 46 years) to developing alternative systems and support structures for people... I have alternatives to offer. We can even build them within the existing structure. What are those? Hell look through my history here, I've said it enough. Mutual aid and living collectives in federated aliance with one another. I'm just not under the delusion that Democrats will protect me, or you, or anyone but the financial elite. The difference between Dems and GOP are only who they want to be the elite. The GOP largely manipulate their political base through fear, tactics refined very well... this is why they seek to inspire fear (which leads to violence) in their followers. Dems manipulate using false hope (which leads to pacifism)... well used to be false hope... now they just bluntly pander without doing anything at all of substance. Neither of them want the elite to be you or I. GOP are more dangerous in the short term, no doubt about it, because they inspire really sick people to do really horrible things. But Dems are dangerous too... because they inspire people to do nothing... have faith in us... we'll be your saviors... they also promote fear... GOP will take away Roe V Wade!!! They milked that for my whole life. That worked out real well for RvW. The boogeyman they used to keep women voting for them... they had plenty of opportunities to codify that into law and intentionally did not. GOP creates the threat to get votes from their base. Dems use the threat to get votes without ever doing anything substantial to end the threat. It's a symbiotic relationship. (edited)
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As far as political and financial power not being held accountable for sexual assault (or other heinous crimes)... There are more examples of this being true than false, particularly if you are actually advocating giving victims who speak out the benefit of the doubt.
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Sorry it's late, your lack of line breaks makes that too hard for my old eyes to read. I'm going to leave it on this. Do you honestly believe that the system built upon white supremacy slavery and capitalism will protect you and us from climate change, or fascism? Democrats are defenders of that system as it is. I have devoted my entire life (soon to be 46 years) to developing alternative systems and support structures for people... I have alternatives to offer. We can even build them within the existing structure. What are those? Hell look through my history here, I've said it enough. Mutual aid and living collectives in federated aliance with one another. I'm just not under the delusion that Democrats will protect me, or you, or anyone but the financial elite. The difference between Dems and GOP are only who they want to be the elite. The GOP largely manipulate their political base through fear, tactics refined very well... this is why they seek to inspire fear (which leads to violence) in their followers. Dems manipulate using false hope (which leads to pacifism)... well used to be false hope... now they just bluntly pander without doing anything at all of substance. Neither of them want the elite to be you or I. GOP are more dangerous in the short term, no doubt about it, because they inspire really sick people to do really horrible things. But Dems are dangerous too... because they inspire people to do nothing... have faith in us... we'll be your saviors... they also promote fear... GOP will take away Roe V Wade!!! They milked that for my whole life. That worked out real well for RvW. The boogeyman they used to keep women voting for them... they had plenty of opportunities to codify that into law and intentionally did not. GOP creates the threat to get votes from their base. Dems use the threat to get votes without ever doing anything substantial to end the threat. It's a symbiotic relationship. (edited)
Just to give my drunk two cents about this if your a believer in elite/institutionalist theory any group that replaces political establishment will curve toward supporting the current political establishment in the sense the Democrats do
4:40 AM
If your expecting any authentic ideologicality from any major political force in any state apparatus prepare to be disappointed
4:42 AM
This isn’t exactly anti-statist in my views
4:43 AM
Just what I believe to be an inherent part of social organization in the modern globalized state apparatus
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End of history and whatnot
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Talk about events, or talk about people, or talk about ideas.
9:38 AM
Don't make a salad.
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I think we should step away from the stage of politics, and see the whole production. Besides the spectacle in the open democratic system functioning as weakly as it does, we have a Gini index problem, decades old, creating a new class of corporate lords created by financial fealty systems and this governs labor.
9:54 AM
The problem is that we give rich people real hopes of becoming celebrity, and we let celebrity speak for us.
9:58 AM
How good is socio-economic-political status as a proxy for wisdom?
10:01 AM
What we all agree, I think, is that we can't expect Joe or Donny to solve all our big problems. The only choices we have as a group are compromises.
10:02 AM
It must be OK for us to disagree with each other as individuals about what is over the next horizon, but we owe it to ourselves to cooperate NOW.
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Irmgard Furchner?
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BubsyFanboy 12/20/2022 1:27 PM
After Sri Lana, Ghana announces default today... Without going into details, Pakistan is next in this ranking.... Policy makers, opposition and government needs to get very serious. Sri Lanka had 80% depreciation, Ghana had 33% yet, Even at 30%, USD will be 300Rs & inflation....
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TheAnonymousDew 12/20/2022 1:27 PM
As much as I want to see Trump face justice for his crimes, issue is DeSantis unopposed is the bigger threat
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It must be OK for us to disagree with each other as individuals about what is over the next horizon, but we owe it to ourselves to cooperate NOW.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/20/2022 1:41 PM
Exactly. We mustn’t let material actions be impeded by philosophy. It will do nothing good if we sit on our computers and type rants about each other’s ideas instead of going out and doing mutual aid, or protests, or similar things.
1:42 PM
If we want things to change we need to become uncomfortable. I’m guilty of bathing in my comfort; I loathe going out and doing things even though I know they’re good, because it’s uncomfortable.
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But anything that isn’t the status quo is uncomfortable! Comfort is the status quo, so all else isn’t.
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So we need to, individually, make our own new normal and habits of action. Revolutionary ideas are pointless and will only spoil and rot if they sit in our heads.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/20/2022 5:37 PM
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As much as I want to see Trump face justice for his crimes, issue is DeSantis unopposed is the bigger threat
Yes, but I think it is much more useful to convict Trump of as many of the near infinite crimes he has committed, in order to set a precedent for DeSantis or whatever chucklefuck gets the fascist nomination. If Trump is never convicted, it sets the stage for the next guy (or Trump if he somehow took power again) to just continue to break all the same laws all over again.
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Throw Trump in jail for the rest of his life, it will do one of two things: sober up the fascists into behaving, or force their hand to go all out, in which we fucking stomp em
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BubsyFanboy 12/21/2022 2:43 AM
https://www.washingtonblade.com/2022/12/20/polish-president-vetoes-anti-lgbtq-bill-that-targeted-schools/ Technically false way of calling Lex Czarnek an "anti-LGBT law" on its own, but it does further centralise the education system and Czarnek's a homophobe, so... ya know.
Measure would have further limited access to comprehensive sex ed
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BubsyFanboy 12/21/2022 6:34 AM
https://fakty.tvn24.pl/ogladaj-online,60/kiedy-konczy-sie-kadencja-julii-przylebskiej-na-stanowisku-prezes-trybunalu-konstytucyjnego,1130117.html [Polish article]
According to the law, the term of office of the President of the Constitutional Tribunal is six years. This is the result of the law passed by the votes of PiS deputies. However, Julia Przyłębska does not leave her position, because according to the rulers, this provision does not apply to her.
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u/stilgarpl: "Contrary to appearances, that's good. If the opposition takes power, it will be the basis for expelling all of them from this tribunal (because they are there illegally). If they had followed the rules, it would have been more difficult."
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BubsyFanboy 12/21/2022 7:53 AM
Internal documents show Twitter whitelisted CENTCOM accounts that were then used to run its online influence campaign abroad.
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"In 2020, Twitter spokesperson Nick Pickles..." A couple named their child Nicholas Pickles
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"In 2020, Twitter spokesperson Nick Pickles..." A couple named their child Nicholas Pickles
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YES
10:06 AM
Pickle Nick
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BubsyFanboy
https://www.washingtonblade.com/2022/12/20/polish-president-vetoes-anti-lgbtq-bill-that-targeted-schools/ Technically false way of calling Lex Czarnek an "anti-LGBT law" on its own, but it does further centralise the education system and Czarnek's a homophobe, so... ya know.
MisterStompy 12/21/2022 2:33 PM
It looks like fighting for the globohomo on behalf of Ukraine has rubbed off on Poland's government /s but no this is actually a very uplifting turn of events
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"In 2020, Twitter spokesperson Nick Pickles..." A couple named their child Nicholas Pickles
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/21/2022 2:50 PM
Hey. better than Richard Pickles.
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MisterStompy 12/21/2022 2:53 PM
I was told that trans people are the ones who are irrational, but I think I was misinformed
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BubsyFanboy 12/21/2022 3:30 PM
https://twitter.com/GrzegorzFurgo/status/1605557488614522881 PiS councilor Eleonora Szymkowiak came to the budget session of the City Council in Zielona Góra dressed as an angel, with a halo over her head and huge wings
Szopka w Ratuszu. Radna PIS, Eleonora Szymkowiak przyszła na sesję budżetową Rady Miasta w Zielonej Górze w stroju anioła, z aureolą nad głową i ogromnymi skrzydłami... To nie żart, to stan umysłu..
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I was told that trans people are the ones who are irrational, but I think I was misinformed
BubsyFanboy 12/21/2022 3:31 PM
At this point I can't even call that "misguided", that's just evil
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As for the female councilor, why? Also what's with the pickles?
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pickles are awesome
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pickles are awesome
MisterStompy 12/21/2022 5:43 PM
pickles are a food and a drink
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+1 pickles. Kosher dills to kimchi.
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MisterStompy
I was told that trans people are the ones who are irrational, but I think I was misinformed
Karen.
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MisterStompy
I was told that trans people are the ones who are irrational, but I think I was misinformed
Listen, I try not to preach violence but this is a case where the destroying the hand of the assaulter is completely justified imo
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/21/2022 10:14 PM
This has to be some sort of troll or joke 💀
10:14 PM
well, would not be surprised if it was real tbh
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Listen, I try not to preach violence but this is a case where the destroying the hand of the assaulter is completely justified imo
floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/21/2022 10:44 PM
offensive violence is simply preemptive self-defense 😌
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
offensive violence is simply preemptive self-defense 😌
AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/21/2022 10:44 PM
Just pepperspray her until she can't see
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/21/2022 10:45 PM
fork in the eye also works
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/21/2022 10:46 PM
if you're an avid golf player, the clubs are excelent blunt force trauma generators, prefferably, use an 8 iron, easy to swing and the metal end can hit pretty well
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
offensive violence is simply preemptive self-defense 😌
Nah. to easy to argue assault in court. Also breaking a hand after a grope is admittedly more justified then preemptive anything
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/21/2022 10:58 PM
there’s an even easier way to get out of it though
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running fast
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This has to be some sort of troll or joke 💀
What is this symbol? Besides the swastika appearance
11:03 PM
Oh shit nvm I see it now
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/21/2022 11:10 PM
Those poor models.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
offensive violence is simply preemptive self-defense 😌
Anarcho-Neoconservatism???
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/21/2022 11:21 PM
no i’m just a violent person
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This has to be some sort of troll or joke 💀
BubsyFanboy 12/22/2022 3:54 AM
yeezy why
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
no i’m just a violent person
Based
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BubsyFanboy 12/22/2022 9:05 AM
https://www-wprost-pl.translate.goog/kraj/11015296/kaja-godek-zebrala-podpisy-temat-aborcji-wroci-do-sejmu-juz-niebawem.html?_x_tr_sl=pl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pl&_x_tr_pto=wapp Anti-abortion activist Kaja Godek has gathered signatures for and will submit a new bill to congress. This act will forbid citizens from informing that they're aborting their pregnancies.
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This has to be some sort of troll or joke 💀
when we get to the point where Ye is openly proclaiming his love and admiration for Hitler and the Nazis, it's really next to impossible to tell the difference between reality and fantasy
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/22/2022 1:02 PM
mhm
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Be sure to pronounce the name correctly (for maximum insult) Kanye: "Can-yuh" or Ye: "YuHH"
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I am a social democrat and i politically disagree with republicans.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/22/2022 1:59 PM
ok
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Is it kidnapping if your intending the children to go straight to CPS?
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Maybe? Idk
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I'm not a lawyer
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/22/2022 4:32 PM
yes
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holding anyone without their consent (unless they’re incapable of giving informed consent and it’s for medical treatment) is kidnapping
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MisterStompy 12/22/2022 5:39 PM
I'd post it here but it's extremely NSFW, anyway some chick in Scotland who was protesting against trans rights just flashed her hoo haa to the whole parliament.
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You know because trans people are perverts
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So she... showed everyone her... stuff.
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The results?
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The results?
MisterStompy 12/22/2022 5:43 PM
The pro trans bill got passed but everyone had to see her Teutoburg Forest
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/22/2022 5:44 PM
that’d make me wanna be a roman soldier in the teutoburg forest tbh
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that’d make me wanna be a roman soldier in the teutoburg forest tbh
That makes me want to be a legionare so I can spear her for indecency
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MisterStompy 12/22/2022 5:46 PM
I found her Twitter account and she's getting dragged, I'd post it but the replies have picture of her stunt
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Her PFP is a drawing of a vagina surrounded by the words "Dignity, Privacy, Safety" which is HYSTERICAL (edited)
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OH MY GOD
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/22/2022 6:19 PM
Quick question, who is Netanyahu
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because I was watching the news with mom and in the little text that shows up bellow the headers it said that he had formed a far rigt government, or something along those lines, the text was moving pretty quick as per usual so i couldnt get a full read on it
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but it very well said 'far right'
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AIF Cuirassier regiment
Quick question, who is Netanyahu
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/22/2022 6:22 PM
Israel's former PM. (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/22/2022 6:22 PM
Well
6:22 PM
that can't be good
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/22/2022 6:22 PM
Correction, former prime minister.
6:24 PM
He currently serves as the "Leader of Opposition" which is, to say, leader of the party not in power atm.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/22/2022 6:24 PM
Oh good
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lets hope it stays that way
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/22/2022 6:25 PM
He's trying his damndest to make sure it doesn't.
6:26 PM
From the looks of it, he's going to be succeeding the current PM soon and is already trying to enforce gender segregation.
6:27 PM
If you think the Palestinians' situation is bad right now, imagine what's going to happen if this nutter takes control.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
From the looks of it, he's going to be succeeding the current PM soon and is already trying to enforce gender segregation.
As the resident Israeli Politics Follower^TM I can bring some context to this
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So Israel’s government became dominated by its right-wing after the Iranian Revolution, Afghan civil war and several Ba’athist governments created an exodus of Mizrahi Jews who held revanchist anti-Arab beliefs and a deep seeded paranoia of other Middle Eastern governments, which propelled Likud (the National Liberal Movement, Israel’s largest right wing party with historical roots in the Irgun paramilitary group) to power while causing the historically dominant Ashkenazi-led social nationalist Labor party pretty much collapsed, with a few smaller parties replacing them
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In the late 90’s Netenyahu came to power for the first time and came to dominate the Israeli conservative movement as the face of the Likud party, balancing a nationalistic foreign policy with a relatively more moderate social policy and an open door immigration policy to all Jews in order to expand the Israeli population
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Further support was secured from a new wave of Ashkenazi immigration from post-Communist Eastern Europe who primarily allied with the right
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Bibi has been in power for more or less 20 years with brief blips of centrist/big tent governments opposing him
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The last few years have been particularly volatile with 5 government collasping and being reformed within
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The last coalition was between the anti-Bibi nationalists under Naftali Bennett, the centrists under Lapid and the Arab left wing parties, though support for it did collaspe after Bennett was seen as “insufficiently nationalist” by his voters and increasing anti-Western sentiment in Israel cratered Lapid’s Europhilic party.
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Which paved the way for the return of Bibi, but instead of forming a government with liberals and moderates like he usually does and governing from the right of his coalition, he instead former a coalition with the Religious Zionist party, a far-right theocratic ultranationalist group that openly supports the total annexation of all territories of the de jure Palestinian Authority and broad anti- (Levantine) Arab policies (they’re cool with the Gulf Arabs though, who they mostly see eye to eye with) (edited)
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70% of Israel’s population is now either from Russia, Iran or the Arab World, and it’s become clear Bibi is pivoting from a GOP proxy in the Middle East from back when Israel was more Westernized to more-so a Putinist style of government some dub the “Imperial Knesset”
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In short as the population becomes more detached from the lessons of the Holocaust and Israel further integrates with other regional authoritarian nationalists like Azerbaijan, Turkey and Saudi Arabia, it’s descent into fascism becomes an ironic but fitting end to the conclusion of the botched Zionist project
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In short as the population becomes more detached from the lessons of the Holocaust and Israel further integrates with other regional authoritarian nationalists like Azerbaijan, Turkey and Saudi Arabia, it’s descent into fascism becomes an ironic but fitting end to the conclusion of the botched Zionist project
The real irony is, it's making the Christian end of days story more and more likely as they become more fascist. Which is no doubt a welcome idea to US Christo-fascists... who welcome the sign of the end times that is Israel being glassed by a nuke.
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BubsyFanboy 12/23/2022 9:15 AM
https://wiadomosci-radiozet-pl.translate.goog/Polska/amerykanie-przewiezli-zelenskiego-w-polsce-nie-zwrocili-sie-o-pomoc-do-polskich-sluzb?_x_tr_sl=pl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pl&_x_tr_pto=wapp
The affair with the police commander's grenade launcher led to a decline in trust in our services. The American Secret Service, transporting Volodymyr Zelensky through Poland before his departure to the USA, did not ask the Polish services and police for help.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/24/2022 12:19 AM
INFIGHTING LETS GOOO
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anything that makes them weaker is better
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even if it's the sligbtests of things
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BubsyFanboy 12/24/2022 4:39 AM
Britain is broken.
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Apparently the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia (ROCOR) maintains this monument in New York
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to the Committee for the Liberation of the Peoples of Russia
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Vlasov is pictured on it, I think
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/24/2022 10:23 AM
huh
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/24/2022 12:13 PM
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#Myanmar (#Burma) 🇲🇲: People's Defense Forces (PDF) carried out an attack on Kamma Police Office in #Pakokku, #Magway Region. Fighters seem to be armed with Colt 603 - M16A1 rifles, AR-15 rifles/carbines and a possible Turkish Derya MK-12 shotgun. #WhatsHappeningInMyanmar
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LessthanLoneWolf 12/24/2022 3:16 PM
@floppunism [BOI, ID] I might try that out tonight!
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The Russian Orthodox Church maintains a monument to a Nazi collaborator right in New York
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/24/2022 4:40 PM
Who's up for giving it a three arrows makeover?
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I would but I live in California.
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Novo-Diveyevo Russian Orthodox Convent, Nanuet, N.Y.
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It's a 20 minute drive from my work
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/24/2022 5:08 PM
4chan based?
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For some reason the first comprehension my brain formed was "If you don't like this man, then kill [him] yourself."
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/24/2022 8:17 PM
I would if i could
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Second, I was like "If he wasn't already dead.. but hey if I saw someone alive who looked like that on the street..."
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/24/2022 8:21 PM
lol
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/24/2022 10:24 PM
Jared Smith, who issued controversial ruling in January, named to new court of appeal by Florida governor
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The real irony is, it's making the Christian end of days story more and more likely as they become more fascist. Which is no doubt a welcome idea to US Christo-fascists... who welcome the sign of the end times that is Israel being glassed by a nuke.
Tbh I highly doubt Israel is gonna get glassed anytime soon
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Iran’s government is on borrowed time and without political Islam, the amount of shits the general populous gives about the situation in Palestine is little to none (Azerbaijan whose populous shares the most ideological and cultural overlap with Iran given like 1/4 of the Iranian population is Azeri is a perfect representation of this)
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The Hashemite dynasty is pretty stable so Jordan probably won’t have a Revolution anytime soon
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The UAE and KSA are likely to become Israel’s largest regional military guarantors (edited)
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Egypt basically has as much Gazan blood on its hands as Israel does
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And Syria, Lebanon and Iraq are FUBAR so there’s not gonna be any organized nuclearization anytime soon
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Thank Donald Rumsfeld for Iran.
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Realistically Israel will likely declare the full annexation of the West Bank as the District of Judea & Samara once they develop a formal alliance with the Saudis and use the Saud’s or Khalifa’s treasury to bribe the Jordanians by dumping half of the evicted Palestinians there and reluctantly “integrating” the rest under a more centrist gov’t after the mostly secular Israeli population get sick of some of RZ’s more socially reactionary policies and the internal chaos from the likely Palestinian insurgency. The civil situation will likely calm down after though there will probably decades of “identity codes” en post in attempt to “convert” the Palestinian population to “Israeli Arabs”
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Gaza will likely just be deemed a lost cause and Egypt will find an excuse to annex it with little more than superficial protest from Israel
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Realistically Israel will likely declare the full annexation of the West Bank as the District of Judea & Samara once they develop a formal alliance with the Saudis and use the Saud’s or Khalifa’s treasury to bribe the Jordanians by dumping half of the evicted Palestinians there and reluctantly “integrating” the rest under a more centrist gov’t after the mostly secular Israeli population get sick of some of RZ’s more socially reactionary policies and the internal chaos from the likely Palestinian insurgency. The civil situation will likely calm down after though there will probably decades of “identity codes” en post in attempt to “convert” the Palestinian population to “Israeli Arabs”
That's very optimistic given the history and current events in Israel. And Gaza has long been a sunk cost fallacy for Israel, and they haven't stopped spending millions bombing it yet.
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That's very optimistic given the history and current events in Israel. And Gaza has long been a sunk cost fallacy for Israel, and they haven't stopped spending millions bombing it yet.
I mean idk how that’s optimistic an insurgency is going to be a rather brutal event with a lot of bloodshed across the country
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I mean idk how that’s optimistic an insurgency is going to be a rather brutal event with a lot of bloodshed across the country
The idea that they will attempt to integrate Palestinians. At this point it seems the only integrating they will be doing with Palestinians is using them to fertilize the soil.
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But I think Israel’s going to try to act at a position of regional security, which they’re reaching rather close to, and I don’t think they’re going to opt for the full Enver Pasha treatment, regardless of the moral bend of the Israeli gov’t it would be strategically rather poor
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Unless by integrate you mean stealing kids from parents, killing the parents, and forcefully indoctrinating the kids like we did in North America with the Native American tribal children.
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The idea that they will attempt to integrate Palestinians. At this point it seems the only integrating they will be doing with Palestinians is using them to fertilize the soil.
Israel is still around 20% Arab within Green Line borders, it’s not like they don’t have an existing de-Palestinification regime within their borders
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For the Israeli political establishment the concept of Palestinian nationhood is a much larger threat than Arab ethnic identity at large
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Israel is still around 20% Arab within Green Line borders, it’s not like they don’t have an existing de-Palestinification regime within their borders
Correct me if I'm wrong, but those are the folks being routinely beaten out of their homes and attacked by IDF at mosques.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but those are the folks being routinely beaten out of their homes and attacked by IDF at mosques.
East Jerusalem isn’t within the Green Line
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And it’s not like Acre is exactly a hotbed of IDF activity
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I’m not saying Arabs that are citizens in Israel don’t face discrimination but it makes a major difference in how the government treats you on wether you’re an Arab Israeli citizen vs a Palestinian
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Systemic vs active basically
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Yeah so it's just a genocide against Palestinians, non-Palestinian Arabs just get treated like Jim Crow era blacks.
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Your snark is noted though race politics in Israel is a bit more erm… complicated
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Less South Africa and more Yugoslavia to put it bluntly
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I’d say the term “Judea and Samara” for instance’s best equivalent in Yurp is “Kosovo je Srbija”
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Greg Abbott is playing Scooge real hard tonight. Or reenacting King Herold
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Who's up for giving it a three arrows makeover?
I finally have something to do! Lol
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(there ain't much far right activity in my area)
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Less South Africa and more Yugoslavia to put it bluntly
Yeah, comparing Israel to Serbia isn't going to make it seem less bad. I was in the Persian Gulf so I didn't see it first hand, but I served with guys who were there. Complicated looks pretty fucking bad on the ground when you see the aftermath of the rapes and murders of civilians. Two of my buddies aren't here anymore because their guilt at not being able to stop the atrocities there ate them alive. So you'll have to forgive me if I don't want to see nuance in Israel's genocide.
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Yeah, comparing Israel to Serbia isn't going to make it seem less bad. I was in the Persian Gulf so I didn't see it first hand, but I served with guys who were there. Complicated looks pretty fucking bad on the ground when you see the aftermath of the rapes and murders of civilians. Two of my buddies aren't here anymore because their guilt at not being able to stop the atrocities there ate them alive. So you'll have to forgive me if I don't want to see nuance in Israel's genocide.
I’m not trying to moralize Israel’s actions but if we’re discussing the future of the area the mindset of the Israeli security establishment and voters are definitely going to affect end outcomes. Which is what we’re discussing is based on, what’s the likely action plan of Israel within an annexation of the West Bank — and I’m using the post Arab-Israeli War domestic status quo mixed with current geopolitical considerations that Israel has to make to retain regional relations to give my two cents.
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Sure, nuances don’t matter in morality of actions in a case such as this but they do matter in long-term policy objectives
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Sure, nuances don’t matter in morality of actions in a case such as this but they do matter in long-term policy objectives
In the 46 years I've been on this planet, every single time the Israeli government had the option of doing the moderate or good action, they intentionally took the path of mass murder, general brutality, and cruelty. Their actions have NEVER been based on what is reasonable, or in line with external considerations. So, while I respect your knowledge on the subject. I long ago gave up hoping for Israel to choose the lessor evil of two paths before them. Normally I do acknowledge nuance when it comes to morality... particularly when it comes to the use of violence. I'm done with Israel though. I hoped for most of my childhood that they would see reason, I even prayed for them to act mercifully when I still believed in a deity, and I cried enough fucking tears over the children they've murdered to fill the Mediterranean.
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“For the for the majority of women, it’s not accessible,” the head of Poland’s Federation for Women and Family Planning said.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/25/2022 7:28 PM
It appears to be the latest action in an escalating battle between some state governors, and the federal government, over immigration policy.
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How long until they just start killing anyone who tries to cross? (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/25/2022 10:26 PM
Okay, more than they usually do.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/25/2022 11:30 PM
lmao there we go
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BubsyFanboy 12/26/2022 3:11 PM
https://spidersweb-pl.translate.goog/bizblog/kryzys-energetyczny-gaz-jesien/?_x_tr_sl=pl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pl&_x_tr_pto=wapp Here's the jist of it in the head paragraph:
You probably think that Europe is coping with the energy crisis for now thanks to the right decisions, such as the order to fill the EU's gas storage facilities by November 1 at a level of at least 80%. But that's not entirely true. It turns out that if not for the exceptionally mild autumn, Putin's plan could have succeeded and the Old Continent would have been pressed against an energy wall. It is therefore hardly surprising that Brussels no longer wants to be so dependent on the weather. Hence, e.g. signing a hydrogen memorandum with Japan.
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so global warming actually saved the EU?
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huh
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also possibly California (literally the rest of the nation is suffering a UGLY cold snap but here in CA, we got freak high 70s/low 80 degree weather for christmas and we're getting a huge rainstorm tomorrow
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/26/2022 8:29 PM
cold nation issue(i will drown in the next 50 years)
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so global warming actually saved the EU?
BubsyFanboy 12/27/2022 3:16 AM
And ironically prevented more CO2 emissions. (edited)
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Honestly, Poland is the best case of dodging the bullet. The country's coal plants are old and unstable. Every critic of the government with a longer attention span than the sensationalist media understood that relying on these things would mean certain blackouts and the EU having to bail us out of it. (edited)
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if Poland is smart, they update their coal plants at least or at least diversify, run campaigns to "winterize" their houses and have a backup engine and battery
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when the texas freeze happened, numerous states BUT Texas saw the shit going on in Texas and started to enforce a noticeable spike in awareness of emergency prepareness
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fuck here in CA, almost every big box store was legit running a list and kits of emergency pack and recommendations for generator (edited)
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this includes big cities like LA too
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if people could, they buy a generator or external battery
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That's fantastic for folks who have disposable cash and a home that would not evict them for using a generator (like an apartment complex or HOA). But over 3 million people became unhoused between March 2020 and now in the US... most have given up on housing and live in their cars, or converted minivans, or older RVs.
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Literally 1% of the population lacks basic housing.
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this is in context of emergency preparedness dude
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this is in context of emergency preparedness dude
Yeah, emergency preparedness which never actually covers the people most at risk of dying from the emergency in question... especially cold fronts like we're seeing.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/27/2022 10:55 PM
My man may be from Plebbit, but GODDAMN he is spitting bars faster than a fucking steel refinery
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My man may be from Plebbit, but GODDAMN he is spitting bars faster than a fucking steel refinery
Not sure why old boy had to shit on Grimes to make that point.
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BubsyFanboy 12/28/2022 3:50 AM
Just what?
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Just what?
That whole fucking reddit is full of wtf.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 12/28/2022 11:10 AM
I believe I recall some far-right fascist bigot on tiktok imply that I was a pedo for defending LGBTQIA+.
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By the way, I'm thirteen...
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A new book claims president’s trust in the agents who protect him has been frayed by the agency’s destruction of text messages sought by the House January 6 select committee
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/28/2022 12:10 PM
I fucking hate this site, I clicked the article and it send me to some bullshit main page with other articles
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TheAnonymousDew 12/29/2022 1:59 AM
Why are 90% of Trump supporters either stupid or have the intellectual curiosity of a two year old?
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Why are 90% of Trump supporters either stupid or have the intellectual curiosity of a two year old?
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/29/2022 2:09 AM
It's his main demographic.
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It's his main demographic.
TheAnonymousDew 12/29/2022 2:12 AM
Seriously, they are toddlers especially when their worldviews are challenged. They don't want their worldviews challenged, they want them affirmed
2:18 AM
And if you don't, they throw a tantrum like toddlers
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Seriously, they are toddlers especially when their worldviews are challenged. They don't want their worldviews challenged, they want them affirmed
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/29/2022 2:32 AM
That's the point. Trump specifically appeals to a group of people who are already angry and bitter about the world yet too ignorant or stupid to realize the actual cause. Instead of correcting or helping them, he validates those feelings and they in turn become his loyal puppets/instruments of stochastic terrorism. It's the exact same strategy used by Adolf Hitler to get the Nazi party started. He played on the lingering bitterness and anger of Germans from the loss of WW1 (among other things) and got them marching to his beat in no time.
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Admittedly, a part of me wonders if Trump did this by accident because he, to put it mildly, doesn't seem very bright.
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Admittedly, a part of me wonders if Trump did this by accident because he, to put it mildly, doesn't seem very bright.
TheAnonymousDew 12/29/2022 3:09 AM
Most likely yes, Trump kind of blumders and fails his way into things
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He's failed upwards his entire life
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BubsyFanboy 12/29/2022 7:36 AM
https://wiadomosci-radiozet-pl.translate.goog/Polska/czarnek-zapowiedzial-masowe-zwolnienia-nauczycieli-prace-straci-100-tys-osob?_x_tr_sl=pl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pl&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Asked about who should be most afraid of dismissal, or about specific specializations, Czarnek replied that "all teachers". - Fewer children come, it means less physical education, biology, chemistry, Polish, physics - enumerated the minister
So he wants to fire even more teachers when Poland currently has a teacher shortage. This man is truly fighting for the Jackass Of The Year title till the very last day.
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https://twitter.com/rightwingcope/status/1608472681111846914?s=46&t=0NViIvJjHX00XOk9X3Vn0w this George santos story keeps getting more gross. Dude is always lying about something
George Santos is keeping it classy by posting Barack and Michelle Obama photoshopped as monkeys.
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https://twitter.com/rightwingcope/status/1608472681111846914?s=46&t=0NViIvJjHX00XOk9X3Vn0w this George santos story keeps getting more gross. Dude is always lying about something
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/29/2022 10:28 AM
Lmao
10:31 AM
Dark humor comedians are either fucking hilarious or just racists/homophobes/xenophobes etc voicing their opinions
10:31 AM
there is very little overlap
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Polands slide to the right has been disheartening to say the least.
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BubsyFanboy 12/29/2022 4:33 PM
The first prime minister of re-independent Estonia, founder of the Center Party and long-time Tallinn Mayor Edgar Savisaar passed away on Thursday at the age of 72.
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Polands slide to the right has been disheartening to say the least.
BubsyFanboy 12/29/2022 4:34 PM
You're telling me...
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MisterStompy 12/29/2022 7:09 PM
I can't believe he chose to wear that shit at all, much less to a Romanan court hearing (other guy is his brother I think?)
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You can't make this up. Romanian authorities were urged last year to effectively prosecute human traffickers by GRETA, the Group of Experts Against Trafficking Human Beings.
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Why do I sense its cause the EU is just in the background like "I've had enough of your shit Romania" and twisting of arms ensued?
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OH ITS EVEN BETTWE
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BETTER*
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Why do I sense its cause the EU is just in the background like "I've had enough of your shit Romania" and twisting of arms ensued?
MisterStompy 12/29/2022 7:22 PM
No, they've been looking for him over there for a while. He accidently revealed he was in Romania because he had pizza boxes from a local chain that only gets sold in Romania. Like less than a day after he made his weird ass Big Boss video Romanian SWAT and several counter terror squads were ramming down his door (edited)
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SO APPARENTLY THE REASON HIS LOCATION GOT GIVEN AWAY WAS BECAUSE GRETA THURNBERG VERBALLY RIPPED HIM A NEW ONE ON TWITTER. WHICH PISSED HIM OFF SO MUCH THAT HE MADE A POST WITH CERTAIN KEY BRAND ONLY FOUND IN ROMANIA AND IDIOT'S METADATA WAS READABLE SEMI-PUBLICALLY
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A GRETA GOT HIS ASS
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MisterStompy 12/29/2022 7:24 PM
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so Romania was told to hunt him down basically by GRETA And Greta Thurnberg insulted and roasted his ass so hard, he accidentally gave away his location
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Glorious
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MisterStompy 12/29/2022 7:25 PM
I don't care what anybody says, the internet is cool as shit. Something like this would have NEVER happened pre 98
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nope
7:26 PM
also never underestimate the spite of the Swedish
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MisterStompy 12/29/2022 7:27 PM
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YES
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ok but like
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does this mean every time Greta shows up for her climate talks, people have to talk to her like "Greta Thurnberg, Climate activist, public speaker, also indirect hero in stopping a human trafficking ring"
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also never underestimate the spite of the Swedish
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/29/2022 7:33 PM
Can confirm. Am Swedish and very spiteful.
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especially given from what I understand, this started in part Tate insulted Greta's accent
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which
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yeah
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Tate is going to Romanian jail
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because he shittalked a (now 19) year old who's got shit to do
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/29/2022 7:37 PM
And now the incel is going to be in a cell.
7:38 PM
ba dum tss
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well...let's just say there's a real chance that he won't be alone in the cell
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god damnit that was a terrible pun
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bad, bad pun!
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/29/2022 7:40 PM
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MisterStompy 12/29/2022 7:42 PM
I like how he thought he was safe. You can't stop a Romanian from stealing anything, much less your freedom. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVxn61oITmQ
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I MEAN
7:52 PM
HAD MUSK NOT UNBANNED TATE, THIS WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED EITHER
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seriously Tate and the name Greta is like...did he piss off a witch named Greta or some shit? man got his shit kicked in by two different gretas
7:56 PM
Its almost like Scott Cawthorn and June 10
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MisterStompy 12/29/2022 8:15 PM
Okay shit got really really dark again almost instantly
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well duh. Dude's got human trafficking charges
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/29/2022 8:24 PM
"and as the year draws to a close it looks like elon musk has narrowly beaten liz truss to claim the title of most embarrassed person of 2022 at the last minu-BY GOD IT'S ANDREW TATE WITH A STEEL CHAIR"
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its funny how this abusive motherfucker not only got humilated, but arrested because he did his typical lashing out
8:25 PM
I mean, that ain't wrong
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/29/2022 8:53 PM
wait so he was on the run or something??
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i didn't keep up after he got banned
8:55 PM
@Aces highmonsieur please catch me up on this bald asshat's madness
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alright so
8:58 PM
Romania used to have shit Human trafficking laws
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wait so he was on the run or something??
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/29/2022 8:58 PM
He specifically fled to Romania because they're more lax about prosecuting human trafficking.
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but that changed recently thanks to GRETA
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/29/2022 8:58 PM
Something he was accused of.
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in particular, GRETA had Romania's metaphorical balls in a vice and was forcing them to finally crack down on human trafficking
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so, it happened that Tate was in Dubya(sp?) for a thing and wasn't in Romania
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the plan was, as soon as he got back, they arrest him
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apparently, he was a no show at the airports, at least when they waited for him on his supposed day returning
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the theory atm is someone tipped him off
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but Tate does come back to Romania and hasn't alerted the Romanian officals
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Until he shits on Greta Thurnberg more so then usual and Greta claps back via a tiny dick joke directed at him
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this pissed him off something fierce so he releases a pretty lame clapback... *that A.) has a brand of pizza only found in Romania (Jerry's Pizza) and B.) THE METADATA OF THE VIDEO WAS PUBLIC*
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meaning Romanian police not only realize he was back in Romania, but his rough location as well!
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MisterStompy 12/29/2022 9:03 PM
All I remember about Liz Truss was that she would just straight up post feet pics on main.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/29/2022 9:23 PM
bad bad news
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dad became a fucking tate dickeater
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never thought i would ever say this
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but thank fuck my parents got divorced
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already told him everything i needed to tell him
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Only god can help you now and may he have mercy on your soul
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to quote reviewbrah
9:28 PM
my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
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already told him everything i needed to tell him
did you congratulate him for being a sex trafficking rapist stan?
9:29 PM
In other news, I guess we can figure out why your parents got divorced.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/29/2022 9:29 PM
honestly, i don't want to talk to him
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dad became a fucking tate dickeater
Quick, gather and drink his tears
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In other news, I guess we can figure out why your parents got divorced.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/29/2022 9:30 PM
not really
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the divorce was what lead to this
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and he started
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it
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i think
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never thought i would ever say this
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/29/2022 9:30 PM
If it makes you feel any better, my aunt that I went shooting with still thinks Musk is an "innovator".
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And is scared of antifa.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
If it makes you feel any better, my aunt that I went shooting with still thinks Musk is an "innovator".
AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/29/2022 9:30 PM
how old is she
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tbh I notice most tate "fans" either were incels or already had issues with women
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how old is she
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/29/2022 9:30 PM
60's I think?
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But yeah, it was very interesting explaining to her one of the reasons I bought a gun was in case I got targeted by the local rightoids.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/29/2022 9:32 PM
how did she react?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/29/2022 9:32 PM
She seemed understanding, if a bit stuck in her ways.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/29/2022 9:33 PM
ah
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i see
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/29/2022 9:33 PM
Honestly, it's my mom's side of the family I'm worried about more than my dad's (which this aunt is from).
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/29/2022 9:33 PM
doesn't sound the worst, plus, her fear of antifa could be because of missinformation, but idk, you're the one who know her
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/29/2022 9:33 PM
Alot of them are still huffing Trump fumes.
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doesn't sound the worst, plus, her fear of antifa could be because of missinformation, but idk, you're the one who know her
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/29/2022 9:35 PM
I think it is. I explained to her that antifa is not one group but several groups (some of which hate eachother) and that a lot of their more prolific criminal acts were done by provacateurs.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/29/2022 9:36 PM
alright you can still win her over
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i think
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/29/2022 9:37 PM
She was actually somewhat proud of me for having my own political opinion.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/29/2022 9:37 PM
aw that's nice
9:37 PM
anyways i'll be slaving away at car mechanic simulator to distract me from....you know what
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dad became a fucking tate dickeater
𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 12/29/2022 9:44 PM
Tate as in...Andrew Tate?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/29/2022 9:44 PM
yes
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sadly
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 12/29/2022 9:44 PM
Yikes
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/29/2022 9:45 PM
i wish i was talking about someone else
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but no
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it had to be bald motherfucker #249
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 12/29/2022 9:45 PM
your dad is kill kill bite bite
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AIF Cuirassier regiment
it had to be bald motherfucker #249
𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 12/29/2022 9:45 PM
XD
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TBH People need to play video games more. Anytime I looked at Tate, even before the accusations, MFer gave me strong Frank Fontaine vibes
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 12/29/2022 9:53 PM
Isn't Tate that incel cuck with the podcast?
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Livestreams but I think so yeah
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the divorce was what lead to this
Misogynist assholes are misogynist assholes before they get divorced. Divorce doesn't make someone into a woman hating douchebag. It just makes them feel more justified in taking the mask off.
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Misogynist assholes are misogynist assholes before they get divorced. Divorce doesn't make someone into a woman hating douchebag. It just makes them feel more justified in taking the mask off.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/29/2022 10:13 PM
the latter is what happened
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the mask has slipped
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Divorce drives good men suicidal, bad men were already abusive and just show it more after.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/29/2022 10:16 PM
dad always had a 'i know better than anyone else' attitude so yeah
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/29/2022 10:34 PM
LMAOOOOOOOOO
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/29/2022 10:36 PM
Well, he's been charged now.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/29/2022 10:37 PM
And pundits are already calling it a conspiracy.
10:38 PM
Cope harder. Your tears are delicious.
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And pundits are already calling it a conspiracy.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/29/2022 10:40 PM
cry about it collin
10:40 PM
find someone else's dick to suck
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...Tate was a "elite" you fucking troglodyte
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Aces high
...Tate was a "elite" you fucking troglodyte
Ehh... he was a middleman at best.
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man was committing some tax fraud in addition to human trafficking
11:07 PM
the two crimes go hand in hand
11:07 PM
and in his works, multi-millionare and owned 38 Bugatti's (which I imagine aren't gonna be his for long)
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and in his works, multi-millionare and owned 38 Bugatti's (which I imagine aren't gonna be his for long)
Net worth is only estimated at 350mil. He probably couldn't get Warren Buffet's personal assistant's assistant on the phone.
11:13 PM
Small dog with a big mouth. Most of the real elite probably didn't even acknowledge him as wealthy. Just another pretender playing the rich big man.
11:15 PM
If Romania is anything like the US, his casinos, cars, and villa are probably all assumed to be purchased with human trafficking cash, and will be state property before Jan 1.
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...Tate was a "elite" you fucking troglodyte
𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 12/30/2022 12:01 AM
yeah an elite misogynist and rapist
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Net worth is only estimated at 350mil. He probably couldn't get Warren Buffet's personal assistant's assistant on the phone.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/30/2022 12:06 AM
Still pretty high on the totem pole compared to the rest of us financially.
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Still pretty high on the totem pole compared to the rest of us financially.
It's fairly important to understand the strata of castes in order to understand exactly how the elite manipulate the system. If you just label everyone with a million dollars in assets an oligarch, not only are you wrong, but you end up wasting your time exactly how they want you to... targeting the people they use as armor.
12:34 AM
And in the case of someone like Tate, he's someone they happily feed to the wolves when they want to give the commoners a "win".
12:34 AM
Makes people complacent thinking they accomplished something.
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Simplified a lot... there are three primary castes. The nobility (aka The Oligarchs, aka The Elite) generally their net worth is over several billion, though in some countries that's scaled down some (in China there are oligarchs with networths in the hundreds of millions but their power is made up primarily of party influence). Then there is what I call the "cultivated puppet caste", these are people who manage to, or are allowed to gain significant material wealth to serve a specific purpose... often distraction, or specific function of the system... Most board members are in this caste, most upper level management (VPs Senior VPs etc), a lot of specialist doctors (particularly plastic surgeons), and small business owners (not mom and pop businesses, but think like privately held trucking companies and the like)... this is a vastly larger group of people than the Elite are... but this is the 1% club. Then the peasants. You and I... even middle managers, individual small business owners, down to people on SSI. The Elite literally don't give a fuck about anyone outside of their little club... except how they can use them. Us peasants they have no use for... but the puppet caste is there for a purpose... it's a buffer zone to keep us from beheading all of the Elites. The puppet caste is a distraction for us... they get the attention, they get the blue check on twitter, they distract us from the fact that the Elites have literally stolen 9/10ths of our work. It's why we pay sports figures so much money... distraction... movie stars... distraction... Tucker Carlson... distraction... Trump and Biden... distractions... GOP vs Democrat... distraction.
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Within each caste group there are sub-castes of course... like Elon Musk for example is at a level of power much lower than that of the Saudi Royal Family... but by virtue of his 2021 net worth and his family ties to apartheid South Africa made it into the broad category... which is why he could get several members of the family to go in with him on Twitter (they aren't going to make that mistake again however). The British Royal family has lost a lot of it's pull recently... but it's still probably got more sway than the Johnson Family in the US. Warren Buffet is probably the most powerful oligarch in the US, but he doesn't appear that way because he's got some tact when dealing with pulling strings... also probably doesn't do a lot of overt string pulling to begin with.
12:56 AM
There are probably about 40 families in the US who qualify... another 100 or so in Europe, and so on.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/30/2022 12:56 AM
Jesus Christ, all I said was he has more money than most of us.
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Jesus Christ, all I said was he has more money than most of us.
What was the point of saying that though? Dudes got 30 something Bugatti's yeah he's got more money than anyone on this discord... what's the point of bringing up something so obvious? (edited)
12:59 AM
The subject was the suggestion that he was "The Elite"... and the counter is... no he isn't even close to a part of that club... regardless of how wealthy he is compared to any of us.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/30/2022 1:02 AM
In comparison to us, he is. I don't give a shit about the power struggles and games rich folk play with eachother. They are all assholes hording money, nothing more and nothing less.
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Hell, when push comes to shove, I have no doubt that the elite will gladly sell each other out if it means keeping or gaining power and that sweet sweet coin they covet. (edited)
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Rich folk only care about themselves and their money.
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Hell, when push comes to shove, I have no doubt that the elite will gladly sell each other out if it means keeping or gaining power and that sweet sweet coin they covet. (edited)
Their game is as much about staying alive and in control than their balance sheet. Ever since the dawn of Imperialism/Feudalism/Capitalism the wealthy have been exterminated by the people they oppress... it's a cycle... oppress people enough they rebel and kill you. They are well aware of that fact, and literally everything they do is about ensuring the people don't manage it this time around.
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They may be short sighted, but they know damn well that an average Joe on the street would rather them be death than let them continue stealing their food from their kids mouth.
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People in the puppet caste don't realize the stakes are literally life and death... and they do only care about their balance sheets.
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But the real Elite... yeah they know... that's why they have private security forces they themselves own.
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Or in the case of Saudi Royal Family an entire actual state military.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/30/2022 1:15 AM
I'm not denying the elite are oppressors whose entire existence revolves around beating everyone under them into the dirt. I'm saying that they are just as likely to tear each other apart as the lower class.
1:19 AM
They only tolerate eachother until the opportunity arises to wipe one or more of their rivals off the playing field.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
I'm not denying the elite are oppressors whose entire existence revolves around beating everyone under them into the dirt. I'm saying that they are just as likely to tear each other apart as the lower class.
I believe that's overly simplistic and not indicative of the shared enemy they have and it's effect on their decisions. Remove enough Elites, and the people can gain enough control to get uppity.
1:20 AM
So they might joust with one another, but taking the killing blow would be reserved for someone who really betrayed the caste.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/30/2022 1:22 AM
And such a betrayal would be the exact opportunity I was talking about.
1:24 AM
Why do you insist on arguing with me? We both agree that the elite are parasitic hoarders that should be deposed. This is just semantics.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Why do you insist on arguing with me? We both agree that the elite are parasitic hoarders that should be deposed. This is just semantics.
I was responding to your comment which I still haven't figured out the reason for... was your purpose just to be captain obvious? Am I supposed to be impressed with him for having that net worth? Is it supposed to indicate he's some super villain? I'm not, and he's not. He's just some shithead who capitalized off a sport that got way too popular and turned that winnings into a criminal enterprise, with his biggest money maker according to him is scamming people out of their utility money. It doesn't mean he's some kind of elite power player in the world. Which was the point (made by @Aces high) that I was initially refuting. So who's arguing with who? I'm perfectly fine leaving this at the fact that we both agree that oligarchs are parasites that should have something drastic done to remove their power.
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I was responding to your comment which I still haven't figured out the reason for... was your purpose just to be captain obvious? Am I supposed to be impressed with him for having that net worth? Is it supposed to indicate he's some super villain? I'm not, and he's not. He's just some shithead who capitalized off a sport that got way too popular and turned that winnings into a criminal enterprise, with his biggest money maker according to him is scamming people out of their utility money. It doesn't mean he's some kind of elite power player in the world. Which was the point (made by @Aces high) that I was initially refuting. So who's arguing with who? I'm perfectly fine leaving this at the fact that we both agree that oligarchs are parasites that should have something drastic done to remove their power.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/30/2022 1:44 AM
I meant that even if he's one of the weaker ones, he's still a rich douchebag who got a rightfully deserved kick in the pants and that's a good thing.
1:45 AM
You were the one who jumped at opportunity to lecture me about the power games of the elite which I don't care about because they all should be booted for what they've done. (edited)
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You were the one who jumped at opportunity to lecture me about the power games of the elite which I don't care about because they all should be booted for what they've done. (edited)
shrug I'd hoped you'd learn something from it instead of sticking with reductionist simplifications. There are other people here, and since the elite fucks are directly responsible for fascist authoritarianism, it's better to not mix people up as to who the people really responsible for it is. Tate was some selfish nobody who got to be a rich selfish nobody with a platform to spew bullshit from. He doesn't pull any strings... he just rapes women and forces them to be raped by others. For that he should be killed. But if you are advocating extreme measures to remove people's influence... then it's best to be crystal clear on the specific things they have done to fuck over people. Biden specifically wrote a racist criminal law bill that has caused VASTLY more harm to people than Tate has... and having the money he has isn't enough to take action (other than perhaps taking it all away from him)... So he doesn't deserve being "booted" or "deposed" (what could he be booted from or deposed from)? He needs to be killed for being a slaver and rapist.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/30/2022 2:02 AM
Well, now I know that this entire argument has been in bad faith. Good day.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Well, now I know that this entire argument has been in bad faith. Good day.
Yeah starting with your snark.
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First off, wtf are you on about?? There is a difference between supporting a Shitty law and SLAVERY. Second off, THE RAPE ACCUSER WAS A MAGAT WHO WENT ON TUCKER CARLSON BECAUSE "HE SPOKE THE TRUTH" Seriously, I studder at the thought of you gaining any real power. You talk this big game about overthrowing the elite, which I agree with, and communal living, but how do any of us know if you'll live up to it? How do we know once you gain even a little power you won't become an authoritarian yourself? Gaddafi promised the Libyan people that he'd be the ceremonial head of a direct democracy. Instead he established a brutal fanatical dictatorship. Idi Amin promised his regime would be temporary before the next elections and the restoration of the Ugandan constitution, and he started a war with Tanzania. And so many more. How do we know you won't be the same? Because you're starting to sound like it.
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First off, wtf are you on about?? There is a difference between supporting a Shitty law and SLAVERY. Second off, THE RAPE ACCUSER WAS A MAGAT WHO WENT ON TUCKER CARLSON BECAUSE "HE SPOKE THE TRUTH" Seriously, I studder at the thought of you gaining any real power. You talk this big game about overthrowing the elite, which I agree with, and communal living, but how do any of us know if you'll live up to it? How do we know once you gain even a little power you won't become an authoritarian yourself? Gaddafi promised the Libyan people that he'd be the ceremonial head of a direct democracy. Instead he established a brutal fanatical dictatorship. Idi Amin promised his regime would be temporary before the next elections and the restoration of the Ugandan constitution, and he started a war with Tanzania. And so many more. How do we know you won't be the same? Because you're starting to sound like it.
I didn't even bring up Biden's rape accusation here. What are you talking about. Also I literally don't want any authority... nor do I seek it... nor does anything I work on building have a place for authority. So what the hell are you talking about?
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I didn't even bring up Biden's rape accusation here. What are you talking about. Also I literally don't want any authority... nor do I seek it... nor does anything I work on building have a place for authority. So what the hell are you talking about?
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/30/2022 2:06 AM
You have a chronic habit of moving the goalposts.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/30/2022 2:06 AM
bro are you accusing an anarchist of being power-hungry 💀
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
You have a chronic habit of moving the goalposts.
How is that goal post moving, I never referenced what Tate should be punished for or how before that. (edited)
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bro are you accusing an anarchist of being power-hungry 💀
An anarchist who doesn't sound like he'll keep his word
huh 2
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And if you asked me who he should be killed by, I'd say by one of his rape victims or someone one of his victims chooses. (edited)
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An anarchist who doesn't sound like he'll keep his word
Don't need to keep any word when the structure I work to build has no place for someone to have authority over others.
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Or are you conflating communism with anarchism.
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Because there is a pretty fundamental difference in how to achieve similar end goals between the two. Hell there are a thousand different ways to go about anarchism... none of which have a central authority or leader.
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Heh... in hindsight I guess I can see how someone could think I was referring to Biden... Since he did actually author a bill that enslaved millions of people of color. But interestingly enough I was referring to Tate.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/30/2022 2:24 AM
How stupid do you think I am? The way you framed those paragraphs leaves little room for doubt you were referring to Biden with that statement and are now rolling it back because you got called out. If that isn't the case, then you REALLY need to work on structuring your points. Either way, I am so sick and tired of this ideological purity test bullshit you keep pulling on me.
2:27 AM
Again, we both agree the elites are the problem. Why are we fighting over this?
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How stupid do you think I am? The way you framed those paragraphs leaves little room for doubt you were referring to Biden with that statement and are now rolling it back because you got called out. If that isn't the case, then you REALLY need to work on structuring your points. Either way, I am so sick and tired of this ideological purity test bullshit you keep pulling on me.
There is a block function in discord... you won't need to see what I write at all if you exercise your right to do so. I invite you to do so... because it's very clear that you think I have more malicious intent towards you than I do.
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For what it's worth, I apologize for accusing you of being reductionist and oversimplifying things. I personally think it's better to be far more clear about the subject of caste power structures than you do, that's clear. But I was allowing myself to emotionally react to your argument with me. I should have been better. Also I apologize for using too many pronouns when referencing two different male identified individuals in the same post... my mistake, I'll use names more often from now on. (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/30/2022 2:34 AM
I should apologize as well. You're an anarchist and I'm a soc dem/dem soc, so we're going to have different ways of going about things.
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And I'm a social liberal, even more to the right of anarchism and Social democracy
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So I should apologize as well
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So I should apologize as well
For likening me to authoritarian dictators who were also mass murderers? I think that will take a bit of doing.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/30/2022 2:37 AM
I really do want to help people in America (and elsewhere if possible) and this group seems to be the only one I can do that through that doesn't devolve into bitter rambling or go flying into straight-up terrorism.
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For likening me to authoritarian dictators who were also mass murderers? I think that will take a bit of doing.
I already got fooled and suckered into the far right once already. I'm sorry for accusing you of lying but there have been unfortunately many a revolutionary that have overthrown the previous regime only to become the tyrants themselves.
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@Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy just got heated and misunderstood me... that's a bit different and really just referencing the need to apologize would suffice. Fucking Idi Amin and Gaddafi? Damn.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/30/2022 2:39 AM
C4CD basically said that AIF can go fuck itself because we "don't do enough" while they themselves admit they now do jack shit and BashtheFash is one step away from giving the rightoids the race war they always wanted. (edited)
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Should just throw in Pol Pot while you are at it @archon... I honestly don't give a fuck if you think I'm a liar... those accusations of who I'm like tho... that's patently fucking intentionally offensive. You don't know me or the things I work on enough to know what they are or how they accomplish their goals. So how would you know if I'm a liar or not. But using those names to insult me while calling me a liar... that's next level offensive right there.
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C4CD basically said that AIF can go fuck itself because we "don't do enough" while they themselves admit they now do jack shit and BashtheFash is one step away from giving the rightoids the race war they always wanted. (edited)
C4CD?
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C4CD?
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/30/2022 2:44 AM
Coalition for the Common Defense.
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1uc2 already knows about that whole thing.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Coalition for the Common Defense.
I take it we're not talking about the Veterans organizing org by the name of Common Defense. (edited)
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I take it we're not talking about the Veterans organizing org by the name of Common Defense. (edited)
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/30/2022 2:48 AM
Nope. Didn't even know that existed until now honestly.
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But rather the 146 follower Twitter account that isn't followed by... well anyone I follow but Latino Rifle Association.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/30/2022 2:49 AM
They used to be a group that protected protesters but now they are, as they themselves have said, a glorified discussion board.
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That's a pretty bad apology. Not accepted. Thanks for trying though. Next time you apologize, don't place blame on the person you just offended by likening them to a mass murderer.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/30/2022 2:49 AM
I'm still bitter about that because that was the group that inspired me to get off my ass and do something about the world.
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I'm still bitter about that because that was the group that inspired me to get off my ass and do something about the world.
We all have our starting point. Mine was SHARPs... who were extremely problematic when it came to LGBTQIA stuff.
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Also more than a lot sexist.
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I don't know any today... but back in the early 90s in LA ... yeah... it wasn't good.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/30/2022 2:52 AM
Also happened right after I broke out of the alt-right pipeline, so I, in essence, got suckered twice.
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Also happened right after I broke out of the alt-right pipeline, so I, in essence, got suckered twice.
Don't sweat it too much. We will or have ALL gone or will go through something that makes us revisit what proper vetting looks like. There's probably 10 people on earth I trust with important shit... it's that small because of mistakes I made in trusting people. (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/30/2022 2:54 AM
Almost joined Redneck Revolt as well until you pointed their sexual assault issues.
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So that would have made three.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Almost joined Redneck Revolt as well until you pointed their sexual assault issues.
I did mention that it was a couple years ago and I didn't know what they did to remedy it since... it might be worth finding out.
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Don't sweat it too much. We will or have ALL gone or will go through something that makes us revisit what proper vetting looks like. There's probably 10 people on earth I trust with important shit... it's that small because of mistakes I made in trusting people. (edited)
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/30/2022 2:55 AM
Not hard to see why, honestly.
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Maybe they cleaned up their shit. One would hope.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Not hard to see why, honestly.
Problem with big orgs is... they are big. They want bodies to show they have a valid message that people can get behind. But that also means they intentionally don't vet members as well as they ought to. The people who get real shit done are close tightknit groups who learn to trust one another... to the point where they can trust each other not just with their life (how many of us really give a fuck about living these days), but with their feelings, their breakups, their loves, things that make them laugh and cry.
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The problem is... the big orgs have a message. The small groups have a mission.
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Can those small groups form coalition alliance with others... Absolutely! But you can't have a coalition of tight knit groups of people without the groups coming together in the first place.
3:01 AM
And ultimately @Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy that's why I'm not a Dem/Soc but rather a Free Socialist aka Anarchist. Because I simply don't believe big tent can effect change.
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Skullmaggot 12/30/2022 3:02 AM
Have you tried assembling your own small groups?
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Have you tried assembling your own small groups?
Me? Yep. Done it several times. Best to keep it to less than 20 people... larger and you lose personal connection between everyone.
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Skullmaggot 12/30/2022 3:03 AM
True. I've definitely hit Dunbar's limit a long time ago.
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True. I've definitely hit Dunbar's limit a long time ago.
Yeah, I mean it varies from individual to individual as you know... I think it also sorta depends on how deep in the shit the group is gonna be. Really deep in... 5-10 at most maybe even no more than 4-5. General project with solid consensus approved goals... could push 30. (edited)
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For my Unbroken Circle Ranch residence collectives I plan their construction around no more than 20 people as full time residents. And then only 20 because there are 10 fully independent living spaces where people wouldn't have to interact every day if they didn't want. (edited)
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That's it... had to put it on hold because funding didn't manifest like I'd hoped.
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Skullmaggot 12/30/2022 3:23 AM
So, I'm trying to figure out how to have 1) a flat and decentralized structure per AIF's intent, 2) something that is efficient for structuring itself and its goals, 3) something that is self-propagating and grows, and 4) something that meets the diverse interests of its component ideologies but is able to put those pieces together into a composite whole. So far, I'm looking at forming and networking with groups (that are probably going to be small) and encourage multiple membership so that information and goals transfer from group to group. I'm looking to more form a movement rather than an organization. My main worry is if this will be frustratingly slow to maintain diversity. I think that each group that has a singular ideology has the most engagement to drive growth but ends up hitting the limits of that growth faster due to fewer people sharing that ideology, whereas something with more diverse components, similar to biodiversity in ecosystems, is more robust in its evolution. The challenge is figuring out how all the moving pieces fit together and expand together. I want to pay attention to everything but I need to understand, perhaps mechanically, what inputs each subgroup needs and what they give as outputs. Do you feel like "puzzle pieces" is a good analogy or would it be too restrictive/uncreative to build around such an idea? (edited)
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So, I'm trying to figure out how to have 1) a flat and decentralized structure per AIF's intent, 2) something that is efficient for structuring itself and its goals, 3) something that is self-propagating and grows, and 4) something that meets the diverse interests of its component ideologies but is able to put those pieces together into a composite whole. So far, I'm looking at forming and networking with groups (that are probably going to be small) and encourage multiple membership so that information and goals transfer from group to group. I'm looking to more form a movement rather than an organization. My main worry is if this will be frustratingly slow to maintain diversity. I think that each group that has a singular ideology has the most engagement to drive growth but ends up hitting the limits of that growth faster due to fewer people sharing that ideology, whereas something with more diverse components, similar to biodiversity in ecosystems, is more robust in its evolution. The challenge is figuring out how all the moving pieces fit together and expand together. I want to pay attention to everything but I need to understand, perhaps mechanically, what inputs each subgroup needs and what they give as outputs. Do you feel like "puzzle pieces" is a good analogy or would it be too restrictive/uncreative to build around such an idea? (edited)
I would use the paradigm of the layered council consensus I developed to federate collectives. It requires divorcing yourself of the idea that higher on the pyramid is more "power" or "authority"... but once you get around that it works pretty well. Let's take future AIF chapters as examples. Let's say there is a chapter in Leadville Colorado, another one in Denver, another one in C Springs, and another in Pueblo.
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All authority rests in the individual chapter... but if no one works together there is a limit to each chapter's effectiveness.
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So... lets assume for the sake of argument that they all agree to use a consensus procedure for decision making locally (I have one that has over 94% consensus rate if you want to take a gander)... they each decide they want to work together as a larger AIF presence for <insert thing here>. So they choose a member to represent them to the others. Then at this meeting (open to all members to view, and I'd say have the representatives in a text channel with their own chapter members while it's happening... the representatives identify a goal all of them want to work towards, and outline a plan to do it, their chapter members get a chance to give their consent to the plan, or offer modification suggestions through their rep, and ultimately they collectively agree to pull the trigger on the plan.
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Any one chapter who doesn't have full consensus can opt out of that plan, or make suggestions that would achieve consensus. (edited)
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I also use consensus procedure for vetting as well... if you have 10 people deciding what it takes for them to trust someone... you get a pretty strong and long list of checkboxes folks have to meet to gain the trust of all 10. (edited)
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The trick with this method is... it does become self sustaining... which means that whoever's idea it was to start it all... must by necessity let it fly free from their control in order to work. This is the number one issue I've seen in organizing in any space... the person who's brain baby an idea is doesn't want to let it so far out of their control they can't stop something that mutates it from it's original idea. Yet brain babies cannot exist outside someone's head without mutating. I know from first hand experience how fucking radically hard it is for me to give up control of my brain babies. I still struggle with it.
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The best solution I've come up with is to outline some basic core tenants which are critical to the "mission" of the org/idea etc... and then make sure that those are absolutely crystal clear to anyone coming to contribute... and if they are important enough, then I'd make consenting to uphold those things a fundamental part of being accepted into the collective that makes it happen. Still ten years from now, it might be very different from where it started. I believe that if the core mission/values are valid and valuable... those will still be a part of it in ten years, things just might change on how they are enacted/pursued.
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But back to the structure idea... Those 4 cities are all within a couple hours of each other... but there are other chapters in West and North Colorado that do the same... those groups of chapters can send a rep to a council made up of the Central, North, and West CO federations... and do the same at that level. And so on.
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Skullmaggot 12/30/2022 4:07 AM
The thing I've noticed heavily is that people often independently converge upon what the next step in organizing is--the next step seems to depend on what people know is already there and what their engagement level is, that is, what they are engaged to get done and if others can match their level of engagement. I'm constantly doing things to maintain engagement, but it seems tied to both enacting ideologies and making measurable progress. This combination makes it difficult to keep everybody engaged, and I need to figure out where people not only grow as individuals but as groups.
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I feel like having smaller common problems to tackle helps.
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The thing I've noticed heavily is that people often independently converge upon what the next step in organizing is--the next step seems to depend on what people know is already there and what their engagement level is, that is, what they are engaged to get done and if others can match their level of engagement. I'm constantly doing things to maintain engagement, but it seems tied to both enacting ideologies and making measurable progress. This combination makes it difficult to keep everybody engaged, and I need to figure out where people not only grow as individuals but as groups.
The individual growth part is simple. People most often grow as individuals when it benefits them to do so. Which is often why it's SO important to challenge people on misconceptions... particularly harmful ones... if it's easier for them to keep on with their idea... they will. (edited)
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As groups... there are a lot of ways they grow... but I think the most important one is growing via shared experience, particularly hardships and successes. This is how comradery is developed.
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I feel like having smaller common problems to tackle helps.
This is exactly what I mean.
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As groups... there are a lot of ways they grow... but I think the most important one is growing via shared experience, particularly hardships and successes. This is how comradery is developed.
Skullmaggot 12/30/2022 4:11 AM
ah yup
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Groups which face problems together, and succeed at them, develop an understanding between the individuals that make up that group... they trust one another more because they trust that together they can overcome an obstacle. The more instances of that, the more comradery grows. But also in failures too, if you create the right mindset to deal with mistakes. The Naval Aviation community has a great mindset about that... If you make a mistake that doesn't kill you, everyone is there to try to help come up with a better way... the core assumption is the process is focused on fixing the mistake... everything outside of that in that community might be toxic as fuck... but overcoming failure is a team effort.
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Skullmaggot 12/30/2022 4:19 AM
I don't suppose you can find small problems for us to tackle while we're still online and separated geographically? Right now, my core team is simply developing an organizer's handbook and will be slotting people into roles and setting up training--the main problem of course is having the density in any one place to do anything, so we need to be able to effectively advertise everywhere to draw in new people and build groups...we can set up local social media, but what problems get people engaged? I want to set up some intel but I'm trying to see if that's okay and not overstepping my bounds.
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I should note that some people also grow when growing benefits someone they care about. I strive to change how I grow from the first I mentioned to the second... but it's not easy.
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I don't suppose you can find small problems for us to tackle while we're still online and separated geographically? Right now, my core team is simply developing an organizer's handbook and will be slotting people into roles and setting up training--the main problem of course is having the density in any one place to do anything, so we need to be able to effectively advertise everywhere to draw in new people and build groups...we can set up local social media, but what problems get people engaged? I want to set up some intel but I'm trying to see if that's okay and not overstepping my bounds.
I can certainly... though the first is setting up how decision making/problem solving is going to occur within AIF. Right now, it doesn't seem to have a coherent process, but also I don't think it's had anything to really do. I could throw out some things I've seen that will need to be addressed... but I doubt any of them are things you don't know already need to be. I know all of them have been discussed in various places here already.
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But the best challenges/problems to tackle are the ones that are worthwhile to the goal of the group... even if right now that goal is just setting it up as a coherent structure.
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Skullmaggot 12/30/2022 4:29 AM
Right now there's not been truly a need for decision making since it's been possible to do both A and B--the supply of resources exceeds the demand. I've been making a few decisions (mostly when I was tired and just getting things done, lol), and people have interjected to say that they want to be part of the decision-making process, and I keep note of that. I seek involvement. For other things, I have been receiving rubber stamps from AIF. And, I've been trying to give the go ahead for what individuals want to do to see what can be developed further. Coherent structure is great but best and fastest built with engagement, and problems are good for getting people to jump into action.
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Right now there's not been truly a need for decision making since it's been possible to do both A and B--the supply of resources exceeds the demand. I've been making a few decisions (mostly when I was tired and just getting things done, lol), and people have interjected to say that they want to be part of the decision-making process, and I keep note of that. I seek involvement. For other things, I have been receiving rubber stamps from AIF. And, I've been trying to give the go ahead for what individuals want to do to see what can be developed further. Coherent structure is great but best and fastest built with engagement, and problems are good for getting people to jump into action.
So here's what I would do in your shoes. Every month I'd set an event for a consensus meeting regarding AIF. That meeting would have one topic, initially something you want people to contribute to solving... I'd post the topic of the meeting for the whole month ahead in it's own channel and make it clear that channel was just for that topic. I'd encourage people to post their ideas on solving that problem, and working together over the month to come up with a proposal that several people think is a good rough draft. Then at the meeting I'd go over the proposal line by line and ask folks for their input on each part, suggestions to be edited in, or better wording, or or or... Expect it to go 2 hours. (That's kinda the long end I've seen even for complex problems.) I would use that first test to refine, see where communication could be improved, work on getting more people engaged with the topic before the meeting by posting announcements etc...
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For the first couple times I'd leave the meeting draft up for a week in the channel for it, letting people who missed the meeting contribute, I'd edit the meeting draft (assuming the suggestions didn't contradict something that was a no-go identified in the meeting) and give others time to consent to the final product.
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Maybe the first one could be developing a vetting method for members.
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Once I exhausted problems I knew needed to be addressed I'd start accepting suggestions from vetted members. Maybe if there were more than one suggestion I'd do a week long ranked choice voting to find out which one people thought was more time sensitive, but put channels in to discuss all of them.
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I know the drive to get things done quickly is strong... and for some things it's fine... your experience with people and the scope of the thing in question make it easy to take care of. But for things that really make a lasting fundamental change in the working of the org... I would absolutely take the slower road and involve everyone who wants to be involved. The solution they come up with together will (in my experience) be vastly superior. I'm pretty sure of myself and my knowledge, and I've been humbled MANY times when a proposal I've crafted has been made many times better just by a few small tweaks a few people contributed during the review of the proposal. And a few times where a whole new proposal came that was just hands down better than my own.
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Getting back to the subject of politics... that's why I hate our governmental process so much. A handful of knowitall lawyers craft a bill that deals with things that are so far outside the scope of their experience they don't know how the existing thing works or doesn't, that bill goes before people who in many cases don't even know how to go grocery shopping because they are so wealthy they have someone else do it, and those people make changes just to get their ego needs met, and then the 541 of them decide on it for over 300,000,000 others.
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One more suggestion. I'd make one of the earliest topics of discussion/proposal, a specific limit on the authority of the overall org over individual chapters. What things the org should have say over, what they should be able to step in to do, and why. Like if a chapter has a sexual predator, how much authority does the org as a whole have over dealing with that chapter member. Are there instant removal actions? What is the criteria that has to be met to take action? What is the process for doing so?
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There are a few members here from another org who had to deal with someone (in fact a person in the mod team of the org discord) who terrorized another member's child.
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Same folks had to make a decision on someone who had been accused of stealing firearms from others and accusations of sexual assault, as well as direct witness testimony of physical assault of another member.
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Shit happens even when we all are fighting the same fight... some of us might not be as good a people as we assume we are based on that shared mission. How an org handles that is critical to it's success. Redneck Revolt fucked that up and basically had to start from scratch... and probably only managed it because Socialist Rifle Association fucked themselves up so badly people left in droves and were looking for something else.
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CHAZ screwed the pooch on that so badly people died. And was the direct excuse Seattle had to stomping it out. (edited)
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For the first time since the Mises Caucus takeover, an LP faction finally said something good for once. https://twitter.com/LP_CLC/status/1608819442816884747?t=z2ea8MeVx2M6NgaR84KLUA&s=19
The Classical Liberal Caucus is proud to recognize Boris Fedyukin and the Libertarian Party of Russia (@LprTweets) as our Libertarians of the Year. https://t.co/rEmCbq8E0P
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For the first time since the Mises Caucus takeover, an LP faction finally said something good for once. https://twitter.com/LP_CLC/status/1608819442816884747?t=z2ea8MeVx2M6NgaR84KLUA&s=19
MisterStompy 12/30/2022 3:01 PM
Friendship ended with Libertarian National Party, Classical Liberal Caucus is my new best friend (edited)
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MisterStompy 12/30/2022 3:11 PM
The liberal demands that every person have the right to live wherever he wants. This is not a "negative" demand.
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...technically as someone who's a huge art nerd, the "Tradition" is a form of modernism
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but I agree with the sentiments
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MisterStompy 12/30/2022 3:15 PM
fyi I'm not a classical liberal, I lean toward Social Libertarianism and Civil Libertarianism, but still
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...technically as someone who's a huge art nerd, the "Tradition" is a form of modernism
AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/30/2022 3:16 PM
i always found it funny how modernist architecture from the 20's, 30's and 40's always ends up looking better than current day modern architecture
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YMMV, I like both
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/30/2022 3:17 PM
fair
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but I do agree over simplicity works for some types and not others
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phones? Make that shit streamlined
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tvs? Streamline
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/30/2022 3:17 PM
although i must admit....
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i am a massive fan of art deco architecture
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such a beautiful building style
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your mantle fireplace? 20th century deco build
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/30/2022 3:18 PM
art novaou or however you spell it, is also very nice
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Tate's been held for 30 days planned for Romanian police while they comb his shit
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Libertarianism still embraces capitalism as a model for distribution of basic human needs. Therefore it's still going to rely on authoritarianism to keep the wealth flowing to the capitalists at the expense of those who are too poor to afford it. That's why I can't support it. (edited)
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So libsoftiktok, when she went on Tucker, got identified on Jan 6th
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And now under possible federal investigation
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MisterStompy 12/30/2022 9:35 PM
they didn't even TRY to make it seem like he wasn't reading from cards off camera https://twitter.com/ChudsOfTikTok/status/1608844600449601536
A Gen Z antitrans "activist" from California had an OAN interview & it's exactly what you'd expect
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So here's what I would do in your shoes. Every month I'd set an event for a consensus meeting regarding AIF. That meeting would have one topic, initially something you want people to contribute to solving... I'd post the topic of the meeting for the whole month ahead in it's own channel and make it clear that channel was just for that topic. I'd encourage people to post their ideas on solving that problem, and working together over the month to come up with a proposal that several people think is a good rough draft. Then at the meeting I'd go over the proposal line by line and ask folks for their input on each part, suggestions to be edited in, or better wording, or or or... Expect it to go 2 hours. (That's kinda the long end I've seen even for complex problems.) I would use that first test to refine, see where communication could be improved, work on getting more people engaged with the topic before the meeting by posting announcements etc...
Thanks, I'm reading through all of this now since I was unfortunately nodding off last night and went to bed.
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Shit happens even when we all are fighting the same fight... some of us might not be as good a people as we assume we are based on that shared mission. How an org handles that is critical to it's success. Redneck Revolt fucked that up and basically had to start from scratch... and probably only managed it because Socialist Rifle Association fucked themselves up so badly people left in droves and were looking for something else.
I only hear about how orgs fuck up secondhand, so if you've got written accounts of other orgs' challenges and failures, I'd like to be able to collect them to learn from others' mistakes.
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I only hear about how orgs fuck up secondhand, so if you've got written accounts of other orgs' challenges and failures, I'd like to be able to collect them to learn from others' mistakes.
Sadly from my experience the first hand stuff is REALLY chaotic. Like I have a whole folder of screenshots of an org in KC (I won't name) that is a prominent white member getting called out on trying to take control of black narrative during the 2020 protests, and rather than owning his ego, he goes gaslighty and goalposty and reflects. But like none of the shots are in order, and it took me something like 50 hours of re-reading it, to make sense of it all, and that was with another member having explained the jist. Same member that sex pested another member in a car (stopping only just short of sexual assault)... but that's just hearsay (that I believe, but the org in question was split on, which led to about 30% of their members leaving). The truth is, most of it is one person's word against another.
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TheAnonymousDew 12/31/2022 12:05 AM
CLCs are back to what libertarianism should be
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I hope the CLCs are at least reasonable
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Like leaving masks up to local communities
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Sadly from my experience the first hand stuff is REALLY chaotic. Like I have a whole folder of screenshots of an org in KC (I won't name) that is a prominent white member getting called out on trying to take control of black narrative during the 2020 protests, and rather than owning his ego, he goes gaslighty and goalposty and reflects. But like none of the shots are in order, and it took me something like 50 hours of re-reading it, to make sense of it all, and that was with another member having explained the jist. Same member that sex pested another member in a car (stopping only just short of sexual assault)... but that's just hearsay (that I believe, but the org in question was split on, which led to about 30% of their members leaving). The truth is, most of it is one person's word against another.
Hmm, then aside from improving the quality of evidence, my thought is to both discuss/train within such scenarios and identifying some guiding values that 85% of members will agree with. I had a philosophical discussion with my dad and my sister's fiancé over the holidays about (or at least it was my stance) how societies communally determine what is ethical, but you also can't then prove if something is ethical or not. We all here don't necessarily have the same ideology, but we should definitely keep discussing scenarios so that we understand what values we share and can set up a guiding ethical framework within the organization. (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/31/2022 2:30 AM
A sharply divided federal appeals court on Friday upheld a Florida high school's policy forbidding transgender students from using bathrooms that accord with their chosen identities.
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Hmm, then aside from improving the quality of evidence, my thought is to both discuss/train within such scenarios and identifying some guiding values that 85% of members will agree with. I had a philosophical discussion with my dad and my sister's fiancé over the holidays about (or at least it was my stance) how societies communally determine what is ethical, but you also can't then prove if something is ethical or not. We all here don't necessarily have the same ideology, but we should definitely keep discussing scenarios so that we understand what values we share and can set up a guiding ethical framework within the organization. (edited)
So I've helped orgs where there were hardcore tankies and demsocs and anarchists and just plain old want to help people people all in one. Coming up with a core set of "You will agree not to do these things if you want to participate." Actually isn't hard at all, an hour in a voice chat and most people will come up with the core ones that matter and everyone will generally agree. Deciding what the bar for voluntary disassociation is... that's tough. You're in luck though. You just need to do that on discord, and discord has all the tools an admin needs to see what someone said outside of DMs. Now DM's can be edited on the user's screen, so you just don't accept those as evidence. Get everyone to make a list of things people should be booted from the discord for and call it good there. Ostensibly chapter membership will be the real important structure to be a member of in the next phase of AIF... so... you create a guideline packet with the help of the folks here that chapters can use to organize. And leave vetting, and discipline, and such up to them. IF things get so out of hand that it becomes clear a whole chapter is fucking up (say by covering for a sex pest)... it'll be clear something is up by discussion here in the general discord. Then you can do a one off public investigative thing, and (if I were doing it) have a consensus discussion on what the consequence should be with all the vetted members of all the chapters.
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Just before the curtain would finally drop over the whole macabre spectacle of 2022, Russia adopted two new openly repressive laws: one about the so-called “foreign agents” (whom the law defines as “persons under a foreign influence”), and the other criminalizing most communications about the LGBTQ community, lifestyle, and sexual health as “pro...
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MisterStompy 12/31/2022 3:55 PM
oh dear
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@Skullmaggot side note... one of the best ways for an org to fuck up... is to maintain closed door policy on disciplinary items. It protects the offender, and denies validation to the aggrieved. It creates a wedge between "leadership" and "membership". And has never failed, not once, in my entire life, to create a caste strata within an org.
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oh dear
Are you kidding? Bannon probably routinely masturbated wishing he was Epstein. (You're welcome for that mental picture.) Epstein was a charismatic man with more wealth and power than Bannon would ever see. Bannon is a fucking Warhammer Troll without any of the good parts.
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Are you kidding? Bannon probably routinely masturbated wishing he was Epstein. (You're welcome for that mental picture.) Epstein was a charismatic man with more wealth and power than Bannon would ever see. Bannon is a fucking Warhammer Troll without any of the good parts.
MisterStompy 12/31/2022 3:58 PM
I still think Bannon's idea was to have Epstein be his dark horse and not Trump.
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I still think Bannon's idea was to have Epstein be his dark horse and not Trump.
That's about stupid enough to be a Bannon idea. Epstein never had need of the Presidency... while he didn't have billions in liquid capital... he had oligarchs by the fucking balls because he gave them what they wanted with discretion, and luxury.
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BubsyFanboy 12/31/2022 4:07 PM
Black Eyed Peas did their performance on TVP2 with LGBT armbands and the reactionaries from SP (allied party to PiS) are already malding before midnight
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"Promoting LGBT on TVP2. SHAME! This isn't Sylvester of Dreams, but Sylvester of Perversions!"
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Black Eyed Peas did their performance on TVP2 with LGBT armbands and the reactionaries from SP (allied party to PiS) are already malding before midnight
MisterStompy 12/31/2022 4:09 PM
Rammstein did a similar thing. Liebe Ist Fur Alle Da https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6RK29Ac0zM
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Rammstein did a similar thing. Liebe Ist Fur Alle Da https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6RK29Ac0zM
BubsyFanboy 12/31/2022 4:09 PM
But I don't recall if that was aired on homophobe TV
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But I don't recall if that was aired on homophobe TV
MisterStompy 12/31/2022 4:10 PM
idk either all I know is people were PISSED
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Neo Nazis who couldn't speak German finally looked up translations of their songs and realized it was all aphrodisiacs and buttsex.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/31/2022 4:11 PM
I love that sentence.
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Fuck, Link Link Link is literally a song about how much nazis suck and leftist policies are awesome
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Til fucking HATES nazis
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Neo Nazis who couldn't speak German finally looked up translations of their songs and realized it was all aphrodisiacs and buttsex.
Should listen to Einsterzend Neubauten.
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Til fucking HATES nazis
MisterStompy 12/31/2022 4:18 PM
There's a video of him hocking a loogie at some guy that did a Nazi salute
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Played one of their songs for a Mormon woman who spoke German once. She literally noped out and ran.
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For the record she asked me to let her listen because "I speak German".
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Considering a lot of there songs talk about the fucked up aspects of German culture, yeah I can't blame her
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MisterStompy 12/31/2022 4:28 PM
a general rule of thumb is the more effort a military puts into posturing (for example parades) the less effective they actually are they're puffing their chests up like scared lizards and you fell for it hook line and sinker
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Somebody posted a picture of PLA troops screaming in unison next to some Air Force cadets taking a selfie, and this is the best response I saw. The Russians still do their ww2 victory parade every year and each time they waste more and more money. How many massive parades did we have after WW2? One, and it was just guys waking in the streets and some dog running around trying to get pets. (edited)
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Same thing with the Desert Storm parade we did. Juts some dudes marching and it looks five times as intimidating as anything North Korea puts out.
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Go ahead and put Darksynth over a video of Russian troops doing a choreographed lockstep formation thing. It just doesn't have the same effect.
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Petty shits.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/31/2022 6:51 PM
it impresses me how china is pretty much like the u.s in the 1950's when it comes to race, yet they love to play the race card so often, sure, it can be justified sometimes, but, it comes as something rathwr ironic when it happens
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it impresses me how china is pretty much like the u.s in the 1950's when it comes to race, yet they love to play the race card so often, sure, it can be justified sometimes, but, it comes as something rathwr ironic when it happens
I'm pretty sure Xi just took all his propaganda playbooks from us... we love to tout ourselves as the pinnacle of racial diversity still to this day, and yet the entire country is financially segregated based largely on race.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/31/2022 7:07 PM
You must admit, the U.S is still better than China at that
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MisterStompy 12/31/2022 7:09 PM
"b-b-b-but NATO blew up a tv tower and the KLA slashed my dad's tires!" I don't give a shit. NATO should have just fucking invaded. https://twitter.com/admirim/status/1608926884812951552
Remarkable investigation by @RollingStone. Serbian war criminal who kicks the dead body of a woman in Bosnia in this '92 pic is Srdjan Golubovic aka DJ Max. He walks free & has performed in Serbia's top music festival. He was on the payroll of Serbia's State Security Service.
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"b-b-b-but NATO blew up a tv tower and the KLA slashed my dad's tires!" I don't give a shit. NATO should have just fucking invaded. https://twitter.com/admirim/status/1608926884812951552
AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/31/2022 7:10 PM
NATO did do a pretty big 'oopsie' but overall i agree with you
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but as far as i can tell it was only one
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and it was accidental
MisterStompy 12/31/2022 7:11 PM
I've had people try to tell me that the use of depleted uranium rounds by NATO forces led to like 30,000 Serbs getting skin cancer from radiation poisoning. (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/31/2022 7:12 PM
that i don't know the legitimacy abour cus i know jack about depleted uranium rounds and their effects on people, and i never heard of that claim
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that i don't know the legitimacy abour cus i know jack about depleted uranium rounds and their effects on people, and i never heard of that claim
MisterStompy 12/31/2022 7:13 PM
It was some tankie just blatantly making shit up lmao
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/31/2022 7:14 PM
Lmfao
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as usual
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MisterStompy 12/31/2022 7:16 PM
You ever seen that meme video where the guy in the beret is playing an accordion? That's the music video for "God Is A Serb" and the people performing the song are all members of that "Tiger Squad" that went around lighting up women and children. "Remove Kebab" isn't just some random nonsense thing, it's slang for killing Muslims.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/31/2022 7:16 PM
but yeah there was one accidental bombing that killed a lot of civilians key word: ACCIDENTAL
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You ever seen that meme video where the guy in the beret is playing an accordion? That's the music video for "God Is A Serb" and the people performing the song are all members of that "Tiger Squad" that went around lighting up women and children. "Remove Kebab" isn't just some random nonsense thing, it's slang for killing Muslims.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/31/2022 7:16 PM
yes i too watched that video of the guy explaining his obsession with yugoslav wartime music
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yes i too watched that video of the guy explaining his obsession with yugoslav wartime music
MisterStompy 12/31/2022 7:17 PM
No I learned about it from Bosnian and Albanian friends. We were showing each other dumb videos on YouTube back when we were all still in high school, I'm like "oh let me show you the accordion guy" and they came this close to just knocking me out. I had no idea until they told me.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/31/2022 7:18 PM
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i see
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well, at least you know
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a lot of people do not
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You ever seen that meme video where the guy in the beret is playing an accordion? That's the music video for "God Is A Serb" and the people performing the song are all members of that "Tiger Squad" that went around lighting up women and children. "Remove Kebab" isn't just some random nonsense thing, it's slang for killing Muslims.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/31/2022 7:26 PM
Memetic euphemism for ethnic cleansing directed against Bosnian Turks specifically (kebab is a regional food) and adherents of Islam generally. Originated in Serbia.
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MisterStompy 12/31/2022 7:29 PM
People fail to grasp how utterly horrific the Yugoslav wars were. Mass slaughter of innocents that hadn't been seen in Europe since WW2. The whole thing was Milosevic trying to create lebensraum for ethnic Serbs by killing everyone who was already there. And tankies have the fucking audacity to try and say NATO was evil for stopping it.
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People fail to grasp how utterly horrific the Yugoslav wars were. Mass slaughter of innocents that hadn't been seen in Europe since WW2. The whole thing was Milosevic trying to create lebensraum for ethnic Serbs by killing everyone who was already there. And tankies have the fucking audacity to try and say NATO was evil for stopping it.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/31/2022 7:32 PM
I already knew about the brutality of the whole thing thanks to This War of Mine (which is based on the siege of Sarajevo). I just had no idea about the shall we say... "ethnic" parts of it.
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People fail to grasp how utterly horrific the Yugoslav wars were. Mass slaughter of innocents that hadn't been seen in Europe since WW2. The whole thing was Milosevic trying to create lebensraum for ethnic Serbs by killing everyone who was already there. And tankies have the fucking audacity to try and say NATO was evil for stopping it.
Yeah, I got second hand from the guys I served with who went over there what they saw. 4 of the 6 of them have since committed suicide.
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I already knew about the brutality of the whole thing thanks to This War of Mine (which is based on the siege of Sarajevo). I just had no idea about the shall we say... "ethnic" parts of it.
MisterStompy 12/31/2022 7:33 PM
It was both ethnically motivated and seen as the fifth crusade. The Christian Serbs coming to reclaim holy land occupied by Muslims.
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When that's the reaction of good men not able to do enough to stop something fast enough... that should tell you the scope of how horrific it really was.
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It was both ethnically motivated and seen as the fifth crusade. The Christian Serbs coming to reclaim holy land occupied by Muslims.
And they did all the things the original crusaders did and then some.
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I've never heard/seen him speak on the subject.
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Noam Chomsky drew criticism for not calling the Srebrenica massacre during the Bosnian War a "genocide", which he said would "devalue" the word,[120] and in appearing to deny Ed Vulliamy's reporting on the existence of Bosnian concentration camps. The subsequent editorial correction of his comments, viewed as a capitulation, was criticized by multiple Balkan watchers,[121] including Marko Hoare who extended his elaboration on Chomsky's position in his essay "Chomsky’s Genocidal Denial" from 17 December 2005.
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Bosnian genocide denial is the act of denying that the systematic Bosnian genocide against the Bosniak Muslim population of Bosnia and Herzegovina occurred, or asserting that it did not occur in the manner or to the extent that has been established by the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) and the International Cour...
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/31/2022 7:39 PM
Every time I hear the word "tankie", I think of the moment that inspired my unrelenting hate for them which was when I popped into the subreddit r/shitliberalssay expecting it to be ragging on.. well, shit liberals say. Instead, I got nothing but genocide denial and dictator worship all over the place.
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It's not even funny. It's just flat out horrifying.
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It's not even funny. It's just flat out horrifying.
MisterStompy 12/31/2022 7:39 PM
According to them the Jewish Antifascist Committee were secretly Nazis the whole time!
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/31/2022 7:40 PM
And Russia's doing nothing wrong by invading Ukraine because NATO bad and Mao did nothing wrong.
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I haven't seethed with that much rage since I saw right-wing pundits' response to the Club Q shooting.
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And Russia's doing nothing wrong by invading Ukraine because NATO bad and Mao did nothing wrong.
MisterStompy 12/31/2022 7:41 PM
"Russia invented Ukraine, it's Russian land." If it's Russian land already then why is Putin invading? "SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU REVISIONIST BOOGIE FASCIST CAPITALIST"
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/31/2022 7:43 PM
It'd be funny if it wasn't true.
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They actually do react like that.
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Noam Chomsky drew criticism for not calling the Srebrenica massacre during the Bosnian War a "genocide", which he said would "devalue" the word,[120] and in appearing to deny Ed Vulliamy's reporting on the existence of Bosnian concentration camps. The subsequent editorial correction of his comments, viewed as a capitulation, was criticized by multiple Balkan watchers,[121] including Marko Hoare who extended his elaboration on Chomsky's position in his essay "Chomsky’s Genocidal Denial" from 17 December 2005.
I guess I was too busy in the military to notice what he was saying about it at the time and it never came up. Yeah pretty shit take. That said, Tankies fucking hate Chomsky... even if on this they were seeing eye to eye.
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MisterStompy 12/31/2022 7:44 PM
There's a part of me that secretly hopes Serbia tries to retake Kosovo, because first they'll get absolutely fucksmacked by KFOR, then NATO proper will invade and divide into the Croat, Bosniak and Albanian occupation zones.
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And we'll hear this on the radio on repeat for three days straight https://youtu.be/M2rTafbQepg
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There's a part of me that secretly hopes Serbia tries to retake Kosovo, because first they'll get absolutely fucksmacked by KFOR, then NATO proper will invade and divide into the Croat, Bosniak and Albanian occupation zones.
I have an internet acquaintance who was once a friend who joined the Serbian National Police... I was speaking with him daily as he was going through their training. They were absolutely conditioning him to be a fascist. Previously he'd been warm and speaking well of the "old folks" views on Tito and Yugoslavia as a united whole... slowly he became a Serbian supremist in front of my eyes. It was chilling to watch. Serbia is trying to condition a whole new generation to continue the fight.
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MisterStompy 12/31/2022 7:49 PM
I'm still next to positive that they'll try to invade before the next year is out.
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Weird because we bonded because half of my heritage is Croat... and he was giving me stories he was hearing from the older generations about life under Tito... And then slowly over about a year he became someone I could see doing those atrocities.
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I'm still next to positive that they'll try to invade before the next year is out.
It would be unwise. But genocidal assholes have too much psychopath in them to understand cause and effect well.
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MisterStompy 12/31/2022 7:51 PM
They're taking inspiraton from Russia right now.
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I have another meme about this I want to post but it has actual footage of Belgrade getting bombed and that might be a bit much tbh
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/31/2022 7:53 PM
https://youtu.be/-VZptfte-OM I always wondered why I heard more Albanian and Bosnian music from that time period than Serbian. I think I get why now.
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I have another meme about this I want to post but it has actual footage of Belgrade getting bombed and that might be a bit much tbh
Honestly we didn't let special forces do enough there and relied on air WAY too much. Those six I know who were there were SEALs. The number of times they cried telling me about a mission that was canceled on them, and the bodies they saw after that they could have prevented is overwhelming.
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Honestly we didn't let special forces do enough there and relied on air WAY too much. Those six I know who were there were SEALs. The number of times they cried telling me about a mission that was canceled on them, and the bodies they saw after that they could have prevented is overwhelming.
MisterStompy 12/31/2022 7:57 PM
Back when I lived in a duplex our neighbor downstairs was a guy who joined a foreign volunteer force for Albania and I'm pretty sure he got involved with the KLA later on. Anyway he'd sometimes come upstairs because he was really chill about most stuff and him and my mom were former classmates. One time I was playing Soldier Of Fortune which has a level that takes place during the Bosnian war and he saw me shooting dudes with Black Berets and he basically said that he wished he was allowed to keep doing that. (edited)
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Also Solder of Fortune is just so fucking based. You play as a mercenary (it was sponsered by the Magazine) and the first thing you do is blow Neo Nazis in a subway to bloody ribbons with a SPAS-12.
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Back when I lived in a duplex our neighbor downstairs was a guy who joined a foreign volunteer force for Albania and I'm pretty sure he got involved with the KLA later on. Anyway he'd sometimes come upstairs because he was really chill about most stuff and him and my mom were former classmates. One time I was playing Soldier Of Fortune which has a level that takes place during the Bosnian war and he saw me shooting dudes with Black Berets and he basically said that he wished he was allowed to keep doing that. (edited)
I can relate... fucking hate myself for what I did... but the dream of fighting the right fight for the right reasons is a powerful drug.
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(also this game is really fucking violent lmao)
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Serbs rival southern white evangelicals in most asshole group with a unchecked entitlement complex tbh
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/31/2022 8:03 PM
Now I want to play Ready or Not again but at the same time I remember that the squad AI is a little braindead.
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Also that game has some extremely fucked up shit in it.
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Mafia 3 had a really nice little mission.
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Now I want to play Ready or Not again but at the same time I remember that the squad AI is a little braindead.
MisterStompy 12/31/2022 8:04 PM
Isn't there a scene with biker nazis in it or something? I kinda wan to pick it up myself.
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Isn't there a scene with biker nazis in it or something? I kinda wan to pick it up myself.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/31/2022 8:04 PM
There's a mission where you're busting a right-wing militia that tried to kill a senator, if that's anything.
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Isn't there a scene with biker nazis in it or something? I kinda wan to pick it up myself.
You won't regret it overall for a lot of the content.
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There's a mission where you're busting a right-wing militia that tried to kill a senator, if that's anything.
MisterStompy 12/31/2022 8:05 PM
oh okay
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You won't regret it overall for a lot of the content.
MisterStompy 12/31/2022 8:05 PM
Maybe next week after I get paid
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/31/2022 8:05 PM
Hearing them squirm "We're on your side!" as I slap the cuffs on them never gets old.
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There's a mission where you're busting a right-wing militia that tried to kill a senator, if that's anything.
Oh you were talking about Ready or Not. (edited)
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Oh you were talking about Ready or Not. (edited)
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/31/2022 8:07 PM
To be fair, the senator in that is an asshole too (and possibly a pedo if a later level is correct).
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To be fair, the senator in that is an asshole too (and possibly a pedo if a later level is correct).
Aren't they all.
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Mafia 3 had a really nice little mission.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/31/2022 8:07 PM
never got into it, i was more of a fan of mafia II, but i see why you like 3, the story is pretty good and the world it portrays is, as far as i can tell, pretty realistic
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Aren't they all.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/31/2022 8:07 PM
True.
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never got into it, i was more of a fan of mafia II, but i see why you like 3, the story is pretty good and the world it portrays is, as far as i can tell, pretty realistic
Spent a lot of time in NOLA and families like the main character's in that game are what I came to love the best about it. There is a lot of good folk down there. Just none of them are in charge of nothin'.
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Spent a lot of time in NOLA and families like the main character's in that game are what I came to love the best about it. There is a lot of good folk down there. Just none of them are in charge of nothin'.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/31/2022 8:09 PM
You must admit....Vitto and Joe were really good MC's in Mafia II
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and pretty funny too
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My best friend, Marine buddy I'd die for in a heartbeat is from one of those families.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/31/2022 8:10 PM
But the militamen aren't nice people either. In fact, it's implied that one of them is VERY abusive towards his wife (who is sleeping with one of the hostages in that level).
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You must admit....Vitto and Joe were really good MC's in Mafia II
I never played Mafia or Mafia II... they came out when I was spending most of my life at sea and didn't have a TV or console.
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To be fair, the senator in that is an asshole too (and possibly a pedo if a later level is correct).
MisterStompy 12/31/2022 8:10 PM
Doesn't Ready Or Not take place in an alternate history where all the conspiracy theories are somewhat true and Trump won reelection?
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Or I guess alternate present because it's all modern shit
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Doesn't Ready Or Not take place in an alternate history where all the conspiracy theories are somewhat true and Trump won reelection?
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/31/2022 8:10 PM
Nah, we did go to war with Mexico for water though.
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I never played Mafia or Mafia II... they came out when I was spending most of my life at sea and didn't have a TV or console.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/31/2022 8:11 PM
You should give it a try, much like 3, not afraid to portray the ugly side of the 1940's-50's
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Nah, we did go to war with Mexico for water though.
MisterStompy 12/31/2022 8:11 PM
That's so nice, we had squirt gun fights with Mexico.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/31/2022 8:11 PM
No. I mean we straight up waged war on Mexico because of depleting water reserves.
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MisterStompy 12/31/2022 8:12 PM
oh that isn't nice
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I feel like Ready or Not is pure copaganda.
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I feel like Ready or Not is pure copaganda.
MisterStompy 12/31/2022 8:12 PM
It's not because if you fuck up you get severely punished unlike with actual cops. Most cops wouldn't be able to play SWAT 4/Ready or Not without failing immediately.
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It's not because if you fuck up you get severely punished unlike with actual cops. Most cops wouldn't be able to play SWAT 4/Ready or Not without failing immediately.
Hmmm.
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I feel like Ready or Not is pure copaganda.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/31/2022 8:13 PM
Not really. It portrays being a SWAT officer as extremely stressful and shitty. Also it encourages you to not kill suspects but arrest them instead.
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MisterStompy 12/31/2022 8:14 PM
There's supposedly gonna be a DLC where you stand outside a school and shoot tear gas grenades at parents who are begging you to save their children. (edited)
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There's supposedly gonna be a DLC where you stand outside a school and shoot tear gas grenades at parents who are begging you to save their children. (edited)
See the first part is copaganda... suggesting that that is how policing is/should be. But that DLC would be an actual look into what it really is. (edited)
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There's supposedly gonna be a DLC where you stand outside a school and shoot tear gas grenades at parents who are begging you to save their children. (edited)
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/31/2022 8:15 PM
Funny thing, it had nightclub terrorist attack level that just so happened to drop on the anniversary of the Pulse shooting.
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Devs said it was an accident, no one bought it.
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MisterStompy 12/31/2022 8:16 PM
Yeah that's pretty fucky.
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Alright folks... time to spend the last 5 hours of the year in a totally different universe so I can distract myself from how fucked this one is.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/31/2022 8:18 PM
doesn't ready or not have community content?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/31/2022 8:18 PM
And that level's really fucked up.
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MisterStompy 12/31/2022 8:18 PM
Also just remember that not all Serbs are evil people. The power pop/glam rock band Kerber staged protests against Milosevic when he got "reelected".
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And that level's really fucked up.
I suppose they could have gone more offensive and had bodies in jock straps and harnesses...
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/31/2022 8:20 PM
Actually, that's what some of the hostages are wearing (because they're dancers).
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Look at these glorious bastards https://youtu.be/jfA4Myh5Xsw
So wholesome.
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MisterStompy 12/31/2022 8:21 PM
Now they have to make a Club Q shooting mission where you get there and the suspect is already on the ground bleeding from the head. (edited)
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Now they have to make a Club Q shooting mission where you get there and the suspect is already on the ground bleeding from the head. (edited)
Frankly I'm impressed at the restraint of the two who did the most damage to that guy. I know where I would have been... it would not have been a place where I would have stopped hitting.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/31/2022 8:22 PM
But yeah, I don't play RoN anymore. STALKER's my go to for "realistic" gunplay.
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Frankly I'm impressed at the restraint of the two who did the most damage to that guy. I know where I would have been... it would not have been a place where I would have stopped hitting.
MisterStompy 12/31/2022 8:23 PM
The police basically saved his life.
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The police basically saved his life.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/31/2022 8:23 PM
To the surprise of no one.
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The police basically saved his life.
It's all they are good for. Saving the lives of racist and rich white folks. Stands to reason.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/31/2022 8:24 PM
And traffic tickets.
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MisterStompy 12/31/2022 8:24 PM
This makes me wish there was a remake of Damage Incorporated. It was an old FPS on the Marathon 2 engine and the first guys your mercenary unit went up against were called "The Paladins" whic was basically just the KKK with body armor. (edited)
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And traffic tickets.
Oh right, extortion of money from the poorest. Did you know there was a study done that proves that 1: People who drive cars valued at over 50k are three times as likely to flagrantly ignore traffic laws. 2: Are also ten times less likely to be pulled over for it.
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Needs more study, because it was done in the same area as the cops who were passing around a 14 year old "prostitute". (edited)
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Of course media labeled the little girl a prostitute... because the cops called her that... because they wanted to diminish the horrific nature of what was done by labeling her a criminal.
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As if she had any fucking say in being trafficked.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/31/2022 8:30 PM
I still remember how STALKER caught me off guard with its portrayal of anarchists as generally decent folk who just want to smoke weed, shoot guns and have a good time.
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I still remember how STALKER caught me off guard with its portrayal of anarchists as generally decent folk who just want to smoke weed, shoot guns and have a good time.
Still the most accurate media portrayal... "Here, need some ammo? Food? Sit a while and toke with us you seem cool."
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/31/2022 8:31 PM
I still had the 80's definition of anarchist in my head at the time.
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I still had the 80's definition of anarchist in my head at the time.
1920's on thanks to one idiot who thought it was a good idea to off the VP.
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Now the VP in question deserved it... but still... super bad optics.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/31/2022 8:34 PM
Mind you I still prefer to keep my head out of the Duty-Freedom squabble because, as a Loner, I need all the resources I can get.
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Mind you I still prefer to keep my head out of the Duty-Freedom squabble because, as a Loner, I need all the resources I can get.
A functioning anarchist community (series of federated collectives) would suffice to give all the resources anyone needs or wants. It just takes a hell of a lot of work to build, particularly within a capitalist macro-culture.
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A lot of anarchists think it's impossible (it's not), and that's why they are stuck on traditional ideas of revolution... thinking it'd be easier to rebuild than to build it within the existing structure.
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Loners would be welcome at collectives as long as they wanted to stay and wished a safe journey, or even provided transport to another one when they wanted to go.
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Assuming of course the loner in question didn't act in bad faith while staying.
8:38 PM
Then... well... that's a FAFO situation.
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Loners would be welcome at collectives as long as they wanted to stay and wished a safe journey, or even provided transport to another one when they wanted to go.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/31/2022 8:40 PM
That's pretty much what they do anyway. They even allowed Dutyers to hide from an emission in one of their camps in the third game which was declared a truce zone.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
That's pretty much what they do anyway. They even allowed Dutyers to hide from an emission in one of their camps in the third game which was declared a truce zone.
Quakers and Anarchists have a lot in common in that regard.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/31/2022 8:41 PM
Heck, in the first game, Duty and Freedom have a truce so Freedom can guard against Monolith attacks while Duty purges mutant lairs and bandit camps.
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In fact it could be argued that Quakers are just a variant of anarchism.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/31/2022 8:42 PM
So they may disagree with eachother, but they aren't stupid.
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Same with some sects of priesthood in the Catholic Church.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
So they may disagree with eachother, but they aren't stupid.
That's probably a very realistic look at what happens when ideologies leave theory and have to be put into practice. Something a lot of lefties try to ignore.
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Ironically anarchism allows for that... because it leaves inter-group relationships up to individual groups/individuals to decide for themselves. As opposed to particularly Marxist-Leninism and Maoism which forces decisions like that from the top down.
8:48 PM
Personally I just try to live as close to my ideals as possible, and work on things supporting them which in turn helps others... if someone opposes me helping others... fuck them. If they help, Awesome! If they do their own thing... cool. I hope someone takes my ideas and adapts parts of them into something that benefits them and others... but I don't expect people to take them whole cloth. How should I know what the best way to provide for the needs of a particular group are? They know what they need, and can make alterations, or whole changes to ideas given freely to them. And that to me is the best an anarchist can do... work personally towards a more egalitarian world, let others be good people however they want, and stand up to the people who are obviously being bad to others. (edited)
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If other people think the ideas I want to work towards are good ones, I welcome them to help or take them as their own... don't care so long as people get what they need.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/1/2023 12:11 AM
Donald Trump’s son threatened to “tank” the 2021 Georgia U.S. Senate runoffs if the state Republican Party did not back Trump’s claims of widespread fraud in the presidential election, according to congressional testimony released Friday.
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Tank...too late
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BubsyFanboy 1/1/2023 5:11 AM
Experts say the adoption of the euro will help shield Croatia's economy in a time of high inflation
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...w...what's the economic implications of this?
5:26 AM
good or bad?
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Aces high
...w...what's the economic implications of this?
BubsyFanboy 1/1/2023 5:34 AM
Good. Having a shared currency and removed border checks between EU nations means easier trade and transfer of goods.
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5:34 AM
but does this mean Croatia is EU now?
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but does this mean Croatia is EU now?
They have been for a while iirc. They just hadn't switch to the Euro officially yet.
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5:52 AM
thanks
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BubsyFanboy 1/1/2023 9:41 AM
Outgoing Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro landed in Florida on Friday, after delivering a teary message to his supporters less than two days before his fierce leftist rival Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva is set to take office.
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but does this mean Croatia is EU now?
Croatia has been EU since 2013
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THE NEWS
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brought to by ME,
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knuckles.
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President Jair Bolsonaro has left Brazil and is currently in Florida. His Vice President, now Acting President, gave a New Years address taking some jabs at him while also praising good things he did during his term. Both of them refuse to hand over the presidential sash to president-elect Lula, who will be inaugurated in about three and a half hours from now. Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI (born Joseph Alois Ratzinger), the first pope in 600 years to resign, has died at the age of 95. Journalist Barbara Walters passed away. Soccer/football ⚽ star Pelé died recently as well. Croatia formally adopts the Euro as its currency and joins the Schengen Area, allowing EU citizens to freely travel between Croatia and neighboring EU member states without much interference. The Tigray War comes to a close (so far), with Eritrean forces withdrawing from Tigray and Ethiopian forces entering Tigray peacefully. Tigray rebels have given up many weapons as well and services like flights to and from Tigray have been restored. Hopefully the peace lasts. War in Ukraine rages on. Venezuelan opposition led by Juan Guaido voted to abolish their parallel government. Guaido surrenders his claim to the Venezuelan presidency. The State of New York legalizes composting as an alternative option for human remains in addition to traditional options like burial or cremation. People can now choose to have their remains put in a container full of microbes and turned to soil. Some people even put the soil into pots and grow trees and plants in the soil.
11:43 AM
I'd say more about Ukraine, but we got a channel for it, plus it's more of the same. Russian drone and missile attacks on Kyiv and other cities, often killing innocent civilians
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Modern religious homophobic Christian thought on anyone they don't like. "I don't hate the sinner, I hate the sin. And yours, my friend, is existing."
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My response to that: "and God would be sicken by your sins and would want to puke."
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My response to that: "and God would be sicken by your sins and would want to puke."
Or "May your god have mercy on your soul."
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/1/2023 4:10 PM
Or "Says the guy whose clergy is notorious for hiding sex offenders."
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/1/2023 4:11 PM
pure fire
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/1/2023 4:13 PM
These people think Jesus's line of "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." is an a-ok to commit violence on anyone they don't like.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/1/2023 4:15 PM
it literally was a call for stopping a bunch of guys stoning a prostitute
4:15 PM
for fuck sake jesus jumped in the hole she was in
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/1/2023 4:16 PM
Congratulations, you have a better understanding of the bible than these self-proclaimed "good Christians".
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Congratulations, you have a better understanding of the bible than these self-proclaimed "good Christians".
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/1/2023 4:16 PM
christian education and jesus movies actually made me a better person i guess
4:17 PM
thank you passion of the christ
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/1/2023 4:17 PM
Which them referring to themselves as, by the way, breaks the commandment of taking the Lord's name in vain.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/1/2023 4:17 PM
i was wayyy to young for that but hey, it worked
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My mother the anthropologist was a catholic who's major influences were Jesuit priests... so she was FAR more active in civil rights, egalitarianism, and supporting indigenous practices than other Catholics.
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Characteristics of Jesuit Spirituality: Finding God in everything, Loving Jesus Christ, The importance of service, Spiritual discernment, Education
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Jesuit Priests are largely responsible for supporting indigenous South Americans in seeking independence from Spain as an example.
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They also tended to work alongside indigenous people without attempting to "convert" them actively. (edited)
4:31 PM
It was a Jesuit priest that got my mother the connections needed to be able to witness the forming of the EZLN and who acted as her translator.
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Also there is a pretty serious cultural split between the different groups of Priests within the catholic church... Jesuits aren't typically swayed from their view of service and support for others by other groups. They've survived since before the inquisition era in spite of that period being particularly hostile to them.
4:37 PM
I say all this as an agnostic who thinks religion in general and the catholic church specifically are fundamentally an authoritarian means of manipulating and exploiting people. But I'd fight side by side with a Jesuit (generally speaking). (edited)
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I say all this as an agnostic who thinks religion in general and the catholic church specifically are fundamentally an authoritarian means of manipulating and exploiting people. But I'd fight side by side with a Jesuit (generally speaking). (edited)
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/1/2023 4:43 PM
Hey. I'm an atheist who, even if the catholic church was a-ok, is just generally uncomfortable with the idea that everything I do is predestined. Doesn't mean I'm going to go out and persecute folks simply for believing differently.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Hey. I'm an atheist who, even if the catholic church was a-ok, is just generally uncomfortable with the idea that everything I do is predestined. Doesn't mean I'm going to go out and persecute folks simply for believing differently.
Totally. I'm concerned with actions, not privately held beliefs.
4:45 PM
I can't read people's minds. But I can stop them from hurting someone. Or try at least.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/1/2023 4:48 PM
Helps that my best friend is a Christian with a good head on her shoulders. When her pastor started thanking God for the overturning of Roe V. Wade, in her words: "I wore boots that day. My walk out was nice and loud."
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4:49 PM
I wish I could find the actual message where she said that but it's lost amidst the many many memes we send each other. (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
I wish I could find the actual message where she said that but it's lost amidst the many many memes we send each other. (edited)
That would no doubt be a good meme unto itself.
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She should go the extra mile and full on Martin Luther it. Nail the theses on why that pastor is a heretical little bitch (edited)
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5:07 PM
But good for her
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My mother would have stood up and loudly explained the horrors of the girls that died in spite of her stepfather doing the Christian thing and trying to save them from botched abortions... probably making the congregation throw up a little at the graphic detail of each individual tragedy. A filibuster of foul deaths because of people like him would issue forth like a flogging. I loved my mom, but she was vindictive at times. Though always vindictive for the right reasons. (edited)
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Sounds like my abuela but less public shaming and more cause such a massive fucking slander/rumor ring it tanks the churches credibility and congression numbers. My grandma is spiteful when she wants to be and Hispanic old ladies talk.
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MisterStompy 1/1/2023 5:20 PM
You guys need to take the Episcopalian Pill. It's all the cool clothes of Catholicism but none of the baggage.
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I seriously thought about being a priest, both Jesuit and Episcopalian. But I'm not enough of a hypocrite to be one and also not believe Jesus was divine if he existed at all.
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MisterStompy 1/1/2023 5:22 PM
Also check out this coat of arms it's cool as shit
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She should go the extra mile and full on Martin Luther it. Nail the theses on why that pastor is a heretical little bitch (edited)
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/1/2023 5:22 PM
On one hand, I don't think she'd go that far because she's generally restrained person (and the pastor was only filling in for that day). On the other hand, that restraint comes from knowing and teaching Tae Kwon Do. (edited)
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MisterStompy 1/1/2023 5:25 PM
What's wrong with being Nazbol? They were the largest anti-fascist party in Russia. And you of all people must know the importance of buildiny a multipolar world. It is necessary for STOPPING imperialism.
5:25 PM
>Nazbol >Largest anti-fascist party
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Alternatively... one bullet will do, but make sure they are staked through the heart before you seal them into a sarcophagus.
5:27 PM
On second thought, a second bullet is just easier.
5:29 PM
Nazbol's are a perfect example of why dialectical materialism is just a tool to justify whatever the fuck you want it to.
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You guys need to take the Episcopalian Pill. It's all the cool clothes of Catholicism but none of the baggage.
eh, my big issue with Episcopalins is while they arguably how christians SHOULD be, they also abhor the willingness to call certain secs (namely their biggest rivals/antithesis the Evengelicals) heretics like they fucking should
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eh, my big issue with Episcopalins is while they arguably how christians SHOULD be, they also abhor the willingness to call certain secs (namely their biggest rivals/antithesis the Evengelicals) heretics like they fucking should
Sadly that's part of the whole thing... judge not lest ye be judged. I'm with you for the record, but at that point it violates Christ's teachings in a different way.
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mind you, one of their inspirations, Quakers, fundamentally were pacifist but acknowledge that "self defense was fair game"
6:06 PM
and Quakers were infamous for their aggressiveness and pure too-busy-to-die-got-shit-to-do in the revolutionary war
6:07 PM
be wary of the anger of a peaceful man and all
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WASHINGTON (AP) — With security threats to Supreme Court justices still fresh memories, Chief Justice John Roberts on Saturday praised programs that protect judges, saying that “we must support judges by ensuring their safety.”
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.....nah
6:23 PM
I also like to point out to Roberts that the constitution does not guarantee protection from stupid ass decisions.
6:24 PM
which, funny enough, was Andrew Jackson's logic when explicitly telling Marshell to go fuck off
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Legislators and advocates say they are looking to further regulate social media companies in 2023.
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welp take your bets
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how long before tiktok dies
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OrangeFurious 1/2/2023 7:18 AM
It's a pointless gesture. Government owned devices are usually locked down and can't install most apps anyway. The fact that government employees now can't officially install Tiktok on their devices won't do anything to stop them from using it on personal devices.
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AvoidOblivion 1/2/2023 10:13 AM
I doubt it will get a full ban here. It's used by a lot of people, and would be an incredibly controversial decision.
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BubsyFanboy 1/2/2023 4:58 PM
The global war within libertarianism: https://t.co/Igk8ZlOssa A long one, but an important read. The CIA (& NED subsidiary) recruiting libertarians around the globe to engage in its warmongering narrative. #twitterfiles2 @LPNational @LPMisesCaucus @LprTweets @lpr_tw
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If you wanted to see more of LP Russia dunking on local US counterparts, here ya go. Just scroll to the replies. (edited)
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tbh I suspected it since LP Russians were targeting military posts
5:00 PM
wouldn't surprise me if CIA was courting them since they got wind of the planned invasion
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wouldn't surprise me if CIA was courting them since they got wind of the planned invasion
BubsyFanboy 1/2/2023 5:22 PM
I personally doubt it.
5:23 PM
If you want the slightest real influence into russian politics from the opposition side, you'd better cozy up with much bigger fish (I.e. Yabloko or Navalny's Russia Of The Future)
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LPR is still a small fish compared to them
5:24 PM
They literally even had a split in 2020 (edited)
5:25 PM
It'd be pretty weird for the CIA to try to talk with them specifically
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vitaminWee 1/2/2023 5:40 PM
Devon Henry stepped in to remove almost all of Richmond's Confederate statues after White contractors refused. It changed his life.
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Unintentionally giving POC those gov contracts. Gotta love it.
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vitaminWee 1/2/2023 5:53 PM
The humble Devon Henry reluctantly said yes. Lost some workers who refused. Replaced them. Crane owner’s statue loving investor-father canceled his crane appointment. He couldn’t find one close to rent til CT. So much more. This is a touching story to read. He consulted his kid and wife before deciding. He stayed apolitical during the jobs. He cried finally at one, and his mom was there breaking line to comfort him.
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He is vested and carrying on the job now. Protection is a need.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/2/2023 9:22 PM
A “freedom convoy 2.0” reunion protest set to roll into Winnipeg has been nixed, but protesters vow to assemble in Winnipeg this February under a new banner.
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Guy from mass 1/3/2023 11:15 AM
In this server and the AIF as a whole there Is alot of fear-mongering towards Republicans and other groups that aren't really fascist
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 11:35 AM
idk bro i feel like advocating for the overturn of elections, advocating for violence towards LGBTQ people, media and literature censorship, and turning a blind eye towards political violence is pretty fascist (edited)
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11:36 AM
not to mention their security fetishization
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
idk bro i feel like advocating for the overturn of elections, advocating for violence towards LGBTQ people, media and literature censorship, and turning a blind eye towards political violence is pretty fascist (edited)
Guy from mass 1/3/2023 11:42 AM
I blame that on the higher ups of the republican party, most common Republicans don't agree with alot of that stuff, and if they do its because they have been brainwashed and fed false info
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 11:43 AM
I don’t think it’s the higher ups of the republican party who are shooting up power stations and nightclubs
11:44 AM
I don’t think it’s the higher ups of the republican party who stormed the capitol building two years ago
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I don’t think it’s the higher ups of the republican party who are sending death threats to librarians (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
I don’t think it’s the higher ups of the republican party who are shooting up power stations and nightclubs
Guy from mass 1/3/2023 11:45 AM
Those are crazed extremists, not the common republican
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
I don’t think it’s the higher ups of the republican party who stormed the capitol building two years ago
Guy from mass 1/3/2023 11:46 AM
Those are mostly crazed extremists and brainwashed folks, not the common republican
11:48 AM
How about the anarchists and commies lighting cars on fire in the streets of Seattle and and assaulting police officers because another police officer on another side of the country accidently killed a black guy who was already a criminal (not saying he deserved to die, it was just bad place at bad time with a police officer that had not received proper training) (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 11:55 AM
You’re talking to an anarcho-communist so I’m not one to comment on that lmao
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also it’s really cringe of you to reduce someone’s value to “criminal” instead of “human being”
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 11:57 AM
And being aware that the victim can’t breathe and is struggling to live isn’t “accidental.”
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 11:58 AM
that’s also just a very uncomfortable position to stay in for over 10 minutes
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
You’re talking to an anarcho-communist so I’m not one to comment on that lmao
Guy from mass 1/3/2023 12:00 PM
So what you support all the unnecessary violence that was caused
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And being aware that the victim can’t breathe and is struggling to live isn’t “accidental.”
Guy from mass 1/3/2023 12:01 PM
Not to mention that he had meth in his system and that probably didn't help him live
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 12:01 PM
Meth is a stimulant which would actually only make it easier for him to survive
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Guy from mass
So what you support all the unnecessary violence that was caused
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 12:01 PM
And yea, I do
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
And yea, I do
Guy from mass 1/3/2023 12:01 PM
Why
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I condemn both of the riots by dangerous mobs of extremists
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 12:02 PM
They didn’t listen the last time everyone peacefully protested and begged to stop senseless killing by power-tripping pigs
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So surely they will have to listen when their city burns down
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Guy from mass 1/3/2023 12:02 PM
Your crazy
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 12:02 PM
It’s how it works.
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Protests are threats.
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You need to follow up on threats or else they’re pointless.
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Guy from mass 1/3/2023 12:03 PM
How do you think the Civil right movement was achieved by Martin Luther king
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Not like that
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By peaceful protest
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The right way
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 12:03 PM
It was achieved because people burned the country down for 5 days after he was killed
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Guy from mass 1/3/2023 12:03 PM
Yeah thugs and criminals did
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Burned up their own country and their own neighborhoods
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You folks yell black lives matter then burn down the houses they live in
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And the store they work at
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 12:04 PM
I think you picked the wrong group, pal
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Meth is a stimulant which would actually only make it easier for him to survive
AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 12:05 PM
Which is exactly why Axis soldiers were given meth during WW2. Kept them going even after being shot, and it kept them awake.
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Guy from mass 1/3/2023 12:05 PM
I think I did too
12:05 PM
I thought this group was peaceful and pro America and anti fascism and anti communism
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 12:06 PM
The AIF is not aligned with any particular political group. Discussion and debate are welcome, just don’t let it turn to insults or attacks.
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Guy from mass 1/3/2023 12:06 PM
I know that
12:07 PM
But this group is allowing extremists from the left into the group (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
So surely they will have to listen when their city burns down
Guy from mass 1/3/2023 12:07 PM
Something like this is insanity
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 12:07 PM
I’ve been a member of the server since Jan. 1st. Not my group, just a member.
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Guy from mass 1/3/2023 12:08 PM
Ik it's not your group but it's still rather strange anarchist extremists are allowed
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 12:09 PM
because we’re about as anti-fascist and anti-state-communist as you can get
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
because we’re about as anti-fascist and anti-state-communist as you can get
Guy from mass 1/3/2023 12:09 PM
Let me ask you something
12:10 PM
Are you pro America
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Do you consider yourself a patriotic person at all
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 12:12 PM
I love my nation but hate my country.
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BubsyFanboy 1/3/2023 12:12 PM
WARSAW, Poland (AP) — Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki has surprisingly spoken in favor of the death penalty and admitted he doesn't share the view of the Roman Catholic Church on the matter.
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Guy from mass 1/3/2023 12:13 PM
Tbh I think the death penalty should be re-implemented
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 12:14 PM
i love state-sanctioned murder
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Guy from mass 1/3/2023 12:14 PM
Same
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Kill rapists and murders
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 12:19 PM
Spinner’s gonna have fun with you, christ
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Guy from mass 1/3/2023 12:20 PM
Who is spinner
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 12:28 PM
While I don’t entirely agree with floppunism, I do think that they have a point: Simply by observing history, we can see that violence is, sadly, the answer to a lot. However, violence should just about never be the first response.
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Guy from mass
Kill rapists and murders
AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 12:28 PM
Nah. Let the prison industrial complex have its way with them.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/3/2023 12:29 PM
honestly, with those types of criminals, i'm fine with it
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rape is a crime you got no excuse for (edited)
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that is unless you're being falsely accused
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which sadly happens often
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 12:30 PM
In some cases, maybe. I’m atheist, so it’s my view that killing them would just be letting them off easy. As dark as it is, I’d rather them suffer in prison.
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AvoidOblivion
Nah. Let the prison industrial complex have its way with them.
Guy from mass 1/3/2023 12:30 PM
Yeah but then we need alot more prisons
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AvoidOblivion
In some cases, maybe. I’m atheist, so it’s my view that killing them would just be letting them off easy. As dark as it is, I’d rather them suffer in prison.
Guy from mass 1/3/2023 12:30 PM
Fair enough, I'm a catholic so I think they go to hell but everyone has opinions (edited)
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 12:30 PM
Or, we could reform the way we manage them and not imprison people for simple drug crimes. That’d reduce a lot of the population.
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Guy from mass 1/3/2023 12:31 PM
Agreed
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The prison and police system of the USA needs massive reform
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In some cases, maybe. I’m atheist, so it’s my view that killing them would just be letting them off easy. As dark as it is, I’d rather them suffer in prison.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/3/2023 12:31 PM
as a christian, them getting tortured for eternity by satan is a fun prospect
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Guy from mass 1/3/2023 12:31 PM
And the laws too
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as a christian, them getting tortured for eternity by satan is a fun prospect
Guy from mass 1/3/2023 12:31 PM
Same
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AvoidOblivion
While I don’t entirely agree with floppunism, I do think that they have a point: Simply by observing history, we can see that violence is, sadly, the answer to a lot. However, violence should just about never be the first response.
Guy from mass 1/3/2023 12:33 PM
Well violence to solve a problem that is made to look much bigger then it is isn't the awnser, it would be much safer and better for America to just protest and the like
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 12:35 PM
Agreed, to an extent. The problem is large and widespread, and affects more than Black Americans.
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as a christian, them getting tortured for eternity by satan is a fun prospect
AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 12:36 PM
When I was Christian, I would have agreed. While I do like that idea, I’d rather see punishment and rehabilitation. If rehab doesn’t worm, send them back for punishment.
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AvoidOblivion
When I was Christian, I would have agreed. While I do like that idea, I’d rather see punishment and rehabilitation. If rehab doesn’t worm, send them back for punishment.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/3/2023 12:38 PM
fair fair
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Agreed, to an extent. The problem is large and widespread, and affects more than Black Americans.
Guy from mass 1/3/2023 12:40 PM
In my opinion to say that all police are bad is as true as saying all black Americans are criminals
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 12:44 PM
cops are inherently bad due to serving a system which is built upon slave labor and unjustifiable laws meant to criminalize minorities and political dissidents
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they may be good people on an individual level
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but by wearing the badge they become bastards
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Guy from mass 1/3/2023 12:46 PM
hank2
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 12:46 PM
i can’t think good of someone whose job is throwing people into a system which literally uses slave labor
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Guy from mass 1/3/2023 12:47 PM
Ok then, do we just let rapists and murderers run free?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 12:47 PM
nope
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Guy from mass 1/3/2023 12:47 PM
Then what we gonna do without the police
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 12:48 PM
do it how we’ve done it for thousands of years
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let the community police itself, but also address the reasons behind why those crimes are committed and try to prevent them
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Guy from mass 1/3/2023 12:48 PM
For thousands of years you could get hung if someone accused you of stealing a pig
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So what's your point
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Let mob justice rule?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 12:50 PM
i didn’t say that we’re going to revert to how it exactly was
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i’m saying we’re going to use the same system of mutual accountability
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Guy from mass 1/3/2023 12:51 PM
Mhm
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That can cause problems too
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 12:51 PM
what’s your point of cops not being bastards? it’s okay for them to hand out violence with minimal accountability and ruin lives over victimless crimes because they’re necessary for society?
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Guy from mass 1/3/2023 12:51 PM
Yes
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And no crime is victimless
12:53 PM
I do think that the police system in the US needs a overhaul but abolishing the police is NOT the way to go
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And no crime is victimless
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 12:57 PM
Oh, so Black people staying in town after sundown for many towns in the 1800s and 1900s was a victimizing crime?
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What about vagrancy, the crime of being homeless or not having a job?
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How about possession of marijuana? Am I killing a family of 4 by owning edibles?
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god forbid you’re a runaway slave, imagine all the trauma you caused your master
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dude, the entire war on drugs was created to imprison political dissidents in the 60s
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 1:02 PM
Reagan was one of history’s largest drug dealers.
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that is true thanks to the Iran-Contra affair
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
How about possession of marijuana? Am I killing a family of 4 by owning edibles?
Guy from mass 1/3/2023 1:06 PM
If it's illegal is your choice to possess them
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
dude, the entire war on drugs was created to imprison political dissidents in the 60s
Guy from mass 1/3/2023 1:07 PM
Yeah it was created by the CIA which I fucking hate
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
god forbid you’re a runaway slave, imagine all the trauma you caused your master
Guy from mass 1/3/2023 1:07 PM
That was about 150 years ago and thus not super relevant
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Oh, so Black people staying in town after sundown for many towns in the 1800s and 1900s was a victimizing crime?
Guy from mass 1/3/2023 1:08 PM
Just because some police where bad and commit false arrests doesn't mean all police are bad
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while I don't agree with @floppunism [BOI, ID] or @Spinner on a lot of things, I think they're trying to bring up the fact those few bad apples spoil the whole bunch Even assuming there are good cops, they might not be in the position to enforce needed changes or in their attempts to, bad cops use their ties and power to ruin them
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which has happened before
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while I don't agree with @floppunism [BOI, ID] or @Spinner on a lot of things, I think they're trying to bring up the fact those few bad apples spoil the whole bunch Even assuming there are good cops, they might not be in the position to enforce needed changes or in their attempts to, bad cops use their ties and power to ruin them
Not in a position = getting fired or murdered when they try to out the bad cops.
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Which is then covered up by literally the entire department.
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Guy from mass 1/3/2023 1:10 PM
History repeats it self, if there is a position of power people will abuse it, but if one person does then that doesn't mean they are all bad
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So it's not just a few bad apples... it's a few good ones that get smashed into cider.
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while I don't agree with @floppunism [BOI, ID] or @Spinner on a lot of things, I think they're trying to bring up the fact those few bad apples spoil the whole bunch Even assuming there are good cops, they might not be in the position to enforce needed changes or in their attempts to, bad cops use their ties and power to ruin them
Guy from mass 1/3/2023 1:12 PM
You could use the "bunch of bad apples spoil the whole bunch" on everything, like if black people commit many of the crime in America it doesn't mean that they are inherently bad
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You could use the "bunch of bad apples spoil the whole bunch" on everything, like if black people commit many of the crime in America it doesn't mean that they are inherently bad
What might be applicable in one case, is racist in another. Why? Because police choose that profession, because of the authority they get in the position. POC do not choose their skin color.
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So no... it cannot be applied equally to both.
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Guy from mass 1/3/2023 1:14 PM
POC people get to choose their culture
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The poverty and crime rate of black folk is a mix of culture and social economic scars (edited)
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You have one chance to pull your foot out of your mouth. Try again.
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Guy from mass 1/3/2023 1:15 PM
I have nothing to prove to you
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Just stating the truth
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All you are proving right now is you don't know how systemic racism effects socio-economic status.
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Guy from mass 1/3/2023 1:16 PM
That's funny because your doing the same
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Interesting. Because I'm not arguing that POC choose to be poor, choose to live in redlined districts, choose to be victimized by police enforcing poverty laws.
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You are.
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Guy from mass 1/3/2023 1:20 PM
Black (american) people practice a culture that glorifies crimes, drugs and violence
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I'm not saying that the poverty of most black folk is entirely their fault
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But it is partly
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You are 15 years old, what you don't know about black culture and racism can fill a shelf of books bud. Stop pretending you know anything. At best you've listened to some talking heads and some rap lyrics.
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Guy from mass 1/3/2023 1:24 PM
I work in a city and I know alot of poor POC
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Hell there are countless family stories about government oppression and racism against my family
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One of my good freinds is a cocaine dealer from Puerto Rico with 3 kids
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Who lives in a small house and barely makes above minimum wage
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And imagine looking at someone's introduction so you can attack them personally
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Cool story broski. I'm attacking your ignorance on the subject of race. And the effect of systemic racism on people. It just so happens that your ignorance stems from a lack of experience. Learn more before you start speaking with authority on things you don't know. Signed - someone three times your age who literally grew up in gangland LA in the 80s-90s. And who has since been educating himself on the various cultures and sub-cultures of the US in an effort to identify all the intersectional and individual disparities in lived experience and oppression. (edited)
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Now if you want to learn... ask questions. If you don't... I'd suggest this ain't the right place for you to spout bullshit trying to place blame on POC for what they are experiencing here.
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You won't find it wins you any friends, especially since they are fucking fascist talking points. (edited)
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Guy from mass 1/3/2023 1:34 PM
I'm not gonna waste time arguing with someone who claims to be smart and has a anarchist pfp
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At least I'm not the one using white power talking points to place blame on oppressed people.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
I love my nation but hate my country.
I think I would put it. I love the people in this nation, I hate the government and ideologies that rule it.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
do it how we’ve done it for thousands of years
Actually it's over 9 million years of development in community support, egalitarian distribution of goods, and community response to internal and external aggressors. We sorta peaked at capacity for that around 6 thousand years ago (though some tribes/regional cultures still practice it, or started practicing it again)... it's been in decline overall since, due to the introduction of imperialist authoritarian ideology starting with the sub-continent of India as far as I can find and spreading first east and then west from there.
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So apparently McCarthy failed to get enough votes for speaker. The gop civil war continues.
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 2:19 PM
Hah! Fucker is from my home town. I would love to see him lose. Good to see that the GQP is falling apart. Hopefully it doesn’t spread to harming every-day Americans.
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Hah! Fucker is from my home town. I would love to see him lose. Good to see that the GQP is falling apart. Hopefully it doesn’t spread to harming every-day Americans.
Oh it will, it already has.
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adios motherfucker
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 2:23 PM
It has, but I mean in a more serious sense. As in conflict between Republicans with differing view points, who spread their hatred even more towards other people. Plenty of terrorist attacks have taken place against power stations, and if the main civilian body of the GQP realizes their party is falling apart, it could cause even more to radicalize further.
2:24 PM
Could have been more clear with that, sorry.
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Could have been more clear with that, sorry.
All good I getcha.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/3/2023 2:26 PM
Considering how things are going, I'm pretty sure i'll need to plan a different vacation spot for my 18th birthday
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 2:28 PM
I was motivated to join even more by what happened in Moore County here in NC, and by what’s going on all over. I want to gear up not for war, but for protecting those who need protecting.
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I was motivated to join even more by what happened in Moore County here in NC, and by what’s going on all over. I want to gear up not for war, but for protecting those who need protecting.
Sometimes one is the other. But we also need safe havens for folks escaping centers of conflict. That sure as shit isn't going to be something the government does for us.
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Sometimes one is the other. But we also need safe havens for folks escaping centers of conflict. That sure as shit isn't going to be something the government does for us.
AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 2:31 PM
Sad but true. I would also be up for setting up refuges for said people. Anything to help out.
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Sad but true. I would also be up for setting up refuges for said people. Anything to help out.
If you are serious about that, we should talk... that's been my primary project for 3 years.
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 2:35 PM
Perhaps at a later time. I’m still in high school, but will be done with classes in 2 weeks, (hopefully) college in August. I would like to talk later, though.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 2:37 PM
damn, you're finishing high school early in the year
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i'm out in may
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Perhaps at a later time. I’m still in high school, but will be done with classes in 2 weeks, (hopefully) college in August. I would like to talk later, though.
Drop me a line when you like.
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Looking to avoid another defamation lawsuit.
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Alex Jones likes money more then his batshit insanity
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 4:19 PM
it was a guest
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MisterStompy 1/3/2023 9:05 PM
Since Ted Lieu was born on a military base in to American citizens in Taiwan, doesn't that qualify him to be a presidential candidate? https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/1610386197032968195
Oh yay, I get to make fun of the Twitter Files again while sitting here on the House Floor watching the GOP caucus implode. My take away: @elonmusk way overpaid for Twitter and he has the right to elevate Russian talking points, anti-vaxxers, and that pizza gate dude.
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Good lord those comments. They're obsessed over the Twitter files
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(What are the Twitter files btw? Genuinely curious)
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archon
(What are the Twitter files btw? Genuinely curious)
Some stuff that Musk and Trump stans think say some things they don't say. The intelligence of these people is astoundingly low.
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Some stuff that Musk and Trump stans think say some things they don't say. The intelligence of these people is astoundingly low.
... you have no idea how accurate that is. Coming from an ex rightoid
9:26 PM
Honestly I don't know who's worse, Trump or Elon stans
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Honestly I don't know who's worse, Trump or Elon stans
I think Elon stans are more dangerous. Trump stans are like literally the bottom of the barrel on more or less any scale of aptitude. Elon has some techies among his stans.
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Since Ted Lieu was born on a military base in to American citizens in Taiwan, doesn't that qualify him to be a presidential candidate? https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/1610386197032968195
AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 9:38 PM
Don't you have to be natural born, and 35+ years of age? If he is natural-born and over 35, then I believe he should be able to.
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Don't you have to be natural born, and 35+ years of age? If he is natural-born and over 35, then I believe he should be able to.
MisterStompy 1/3/2023 9:39 PM
Ted Cruz isn't natural born, either.
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I think Elon stans are more dangerous. Trump stans are like literally the bottom of the barrel on more or less any scale of aptitude. Elon has some techies among his stans.
I'm actually suprised. I thought you would say the Trump stans. But at this point I presume there's significant overlap between both
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Ted Cruz isn't natural born, either.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 9:43 PM
he is, his mother’s american
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that’s how he was allowed to run for president in 2016
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
he is, his mother’s american
MisterStompy 1/3/2023 9:44 PM
Well then Lieu qualifies as well.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 9:44 PM
yeah
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he was born on american soil too
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archon
Good lord those comments. They're obsessed over the Twitter files
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/3/2023 9:45 PM
The Biden administration asked Twitter to remove images classified as"revenge porn" of Hunter Biden.
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.... how is that in any way unreasonable?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/3/2023 9:46 PM
In other words, they want to see Hunter Biden's dick pics.
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archon
.... how is that in any way unreasonable?
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/3/2023 9:46 PM
Because Hunter Biden.
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Of [bleep]ing course
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 9:47 PM
what’s their obsession with hunter biden
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like, it’s stalker-y
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I'm actually suprised. I thought you would say the Trump stans. But at this point I presume there's significant overlap between both
Naw, Trump stans might be more prone to violence... but in what I think is coming they will be too stupid to be a serious threat tactically.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
The Biden administration asked Twitter to remove images classified as"revenge porn" of Hunter Biden.
Guy from mass 1/3/2023 9:48 PM
I hope they do, shit like that is nasty
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 9:48 PM
They're jealous that he has a caring father. That is definitely part of it.
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Naw, Trump stans might be more prone to violence... but in what I think is coming they will be too stupid to be a serious threat tactically.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 9:49 PM
don’t forget how there are some smart people though, who know wtf they’re doing and how to do it.
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is that the majority? nah
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
what’s their obsession with hunter biden
MisterStompy 1/3/2023 9:49 PM
"Hunter Biden has a massive schlong. You might not believe this, but it's something happening in this country. Most people are afraid to speak up about this, fearing backlash from the political establishment, but I talk abou it every day. They can't stop me, they can't stop you, either, if you speak up." - Tucker Carlson
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AvoidOblivion
They're jealous that he has a caring father. That is definitely part of it.
Or at least they perceive Biden as being a caring father... doesn't matter if it's true.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 9:49 PM
but i know there are some groups out there which are cunning and smart
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
what’s their obsession with hunter biden
Guy from mass 1/3/2023 9:49 PM
Because some people trying to pin stuff that Biden did on his son to drag his name thru the dirt
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Because some people trying to pin stuff that Biden did on his son to drag his name thru the dirt
MisterStompy 1/3/2023 9:50 PM
Any time new info about Hunter comes out it just makes me wish he was president instead of his dad.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
what’s their obsession with hunter biden
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/3/2023 9:50 PM
Because apparently Hunter made some shady business deals that benefitted his father. Even if that's true, they act like Trump didn't just straight up put his kids into important positions.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
don’t forget how there are some smart people though, who know wtf they’re doing and how to do it.
Ehh... most of those would speak so intelligibly the rest wouldn't see them as a credible leader... so their tactical opinion wouldn't hold any weight.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 9:50 PM
I don’t think they seem him as a credible leader, but a means to an end
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He’s a tool in the normalization of radical right viewpoints (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/3/2023 9:51 PM
Either way, they're massive hypocrites.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 9:51 PM
Of course they are
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MisterStompy 1/3/2023 9:51 PM
guys the fetterman came
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MisterStompy
Any time new info about Hunter comes out it just makes me wish he was president instead of his dad.
Guy from mass 1/3/2023 9:52 PM
Tbh I'm not a big Biden fan, he is a good person but not the best president
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Better then orange man tho
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
I don’t think they seem him as a credible leader, but a means to an end
I'm routinely astounded at the incompetency of Trumpers. It's hard to understate just how predictable and lame they are.
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MisterStompy
guys the fetterman came
AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 9:52 PM
Fetterman is awesome. Very happy he got elected.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Either way, they're massive hypocrites.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 9:52 PM
Any political radical has to do some hypocrisy to appeal to the moderate. I do it sometimes because it’s inconsequential on a lot of things, and effective.
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Tbh I'm not a big Biden fan, he is a good person but not the best president
MisterStompy 1/3/2023 9:52 PM
If he was 20 years younger he'd be one of the best presidents we've ever had tbh, his age is what holds him back
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MisterStompy
If he was 20 years younger he'd be one of the best presidents we've ever had tbh, his age is what holds him back
Guy from mass 1/3/2023 9:53 PM
Totally agree
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 9:53 PM
But I know it, I don’t believe the half-truths I say but I use it as a method of rhetoric
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Guy from mass 1/3/2023 9:53 PM
Personally my favorite president is jfk, him being a fellow catholic and new englander
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AvoidOblivion
Fetterman is awesome. Very happy he got elected.
MisterStompy 1/3/2023 9:53 PM
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 9:53 PM
I don’t like to do it of course nor do I do it often, but its helpful sometimes
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I'm routinely astounded at the incompetency of Trumpers. It's hard to understate just how predictable and lame they are.
You and me both
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
But I know it, I don’t believe the half-truths I say but I use it as a method of rhetoric
Guy from mass 1/3/2023 9:54 PM
Why lie tho
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Yeah it appeals to people better
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 9:54 PM
That is AWESOME.
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AvoidOblivion
That is AWESOME.
MisterStompy 1/3/2023 9:54 PM
That ad probably got him elected
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idk why he didn't just eat Dr Oz though
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Guy from mass
Yeah it appeals to people better
Guy from mass 1/3/2023 9:55 PM
But telling half truths and exaggerations cause alot more polarization when people who tell them come to power
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Guy from mass
Why lie tho
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 9:55 PM
It’s easy if you don’t expect them to call it out. Telling half-truths about stories or data that is more favorable can get a more emotional reaction out of your target for your desired effect
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You can say something that’s true and desirable for your cause (edited)
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Or you can say it in a more powerful way even if it’s less true
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It’s just war propaganda
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You and me both
Like seriously, when you think... "They can't be so fucking stupid they are going to do that? Don't they know it's been tried before and failed?" The end result is always... "Yup they did it anyway. SMH"
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Like seriously... not having people bring firearms on the 6th? If you are going to stage a coup, you stage a fucking coup... you don't half ass it.
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LessthanLoneWolf 1/3/2023 9:57 PM
McCarthy lost the third speaker ballot? Wow the GQP is dysfunctional
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
You can say something that’s true and desirable for your cause (edited)
Guy from mass 1/3/2023 9:57 PM
Your nuts man
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 9:58 PM
A little bit
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Guy from mass 1/3/2023 9:58 PM
Bro was saying burning down buildings was good and now saying this
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I thought extremists were not allowed here but ig not
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Guy from mass
Bro was saying burning down buildings was good and now saying this
You need to keep your opinions of other people here to your self.
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Like seriously, when you think... "They can't be so fucking stupid they are going to do that? Don't they know it's been tried before and failed?" The end result is always... "Yup they did it anyway. SMH"
Heh, have you ever heard of Nestor Makhno?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 9:58 PM
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You need to keep your opinions of other people here to your self.
Guy from mass 1/3/2023 9:58 PM
Why
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archon
Heh, have you ever heard of Nestor Makhno?
Perhaps a lot.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 9:59 PM
I wrote a whole ass paper on him lmao
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Why
Because you are insulting people... this is the sixth time you've personally directly insulted @floppunism [BOI, ID]. This in your first day here.
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Because you are insulting people... this is the sixth time you've personally directly insulted @floppunism [BOI, ID]. This in your first day here.
Guy from mass 1/3/2023 10:01 PM
They are literally advocating for violence
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 10:01 PM
My friend
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@archon What I know of Makhno is not all there is to know, I do know he faced challenges that required decisions that I wouldn't want to have to make... and can't say I wouldn't have made different choices.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 10:02 PM
Wait a few years and I think you’ll see where I’m coming from
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/3/2023 10:02 PM
Not even that. Take a look at right-wingers responses to the Club Q shooting.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Wait a few years and I think you’ll see where I’m coming from
Guy from mass 1/3/2023 10:02 PM
If it's against a real fascist government go ahead
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/3/2023 10:02 PM
They want anyone who doesn't agree with them dead.
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Guy from mass
They are literally advocating for violence
I have scars on my knuckles from beating fash that are twice your age kid. You are in the wrong discord for pacifism.
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I have scars on my knuckles from beating fash that are twice your age kid. You are in the wrong discord for pacifism.
AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 10:03 PM
A true champ. Beating fashies is a good thing.
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AvoidOblivion
A true champ. Beating fashies is a good thing.
Ya do what you need to do.
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 10:04 PM
To quote Ole Blue Eyes, "That's life."
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I don't like violence anymore, I used to... when I was @Guy from mass 's age I fucking loved sucker punching Neos... watching them go down as a bike chain whipped across their face... Lived for it.
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Now I just know it's required at times.
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 10:06 PM
Only fight I ever got in, made the other kid cry just by yelling at him. My voice can get pretty powerful. And the kid was a prick back then who lost every fight he got in...
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/3/2023 10:07 PM
This sticker is on my gun safe for a reason.
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 10:07 PM
He hit me twice, I barely flinched. Kinda got teary-eyed afterwards because I lost control of my emotions and felt a bit bad. Don't anymore.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
This sticker is on my gun safe for a reason.
AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 10:07 PM
I plan on getting a sticker like that at some point.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/3/2023 10:08 PM
I'm not LGBTQ myself but I have plenty of friends who are that I'd gladly kill and die for.
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 10:08 PM
r/liberalgunowners can be a pretty cool place at times. I like a lot of the stickers/patches they post.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 10:10 PM
I should get one of those as a vest patch
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Know they’re around
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 10:10 PM
Helps to show support for those the far-right is trying to oppress, and shows you aren't as afraid of them as they would like.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/3/2023 10:13 PM
Also got this and decorated it appropriately.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 10:13 PM
Oh fuck yeah
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Protip, get baseball catcher armor if it’s in your price range (edited)
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That shit’s S tier body armor
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/3/2023 10:14 PM
Have yet to use it though. Area's pretty quiet.
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 10:14 PM
That is badass. Where did you get it?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 10:14 PM
I’ve taken 70mph fastballs to the chest and didn’t even get a bruise thanks to it
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Guy from mass
Your nuts man
This is a space that is explicitly welcoming of people with different philosophies and political outlooks, as long as we are aligned on opposition to fascism. That means that you’re going to run into people ranging from political centrists to hard-left tankies. It’s okay to disagree, but you should be prepared to do so in a civil way and to listen to the responses.
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That is badass. Where did you get it?
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 10:15 PM
Probably a redecorated police riot shield from global ordnance or something
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 10:17 PM
Those are surprisingly expensive. I guess it makes sense, though.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/3/2023 10:17 PM
Forgot where I got it from but it was only $99.
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It was definitely a very right-leaning site though. (edited)
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 10:17 PM
I am seeing them on globalordnance for more than $140
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/3/2023 10:18 PM
Yeah, they had it on sale in this case.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
It was definitely a very right-leaning site though. (edited)
AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 10:18 PM
Half good, half bad. Means their gear is gonna be used for different purposes than they intended, but it is financially supporting them.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
That shit’s S tier body armor
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/3/2023 10:20 PM
Oh I got that covered.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 10:20 PM
Sticker
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/3/2023 10:20 PM
Also got some kneepads and elbow pads.
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Those are surprisingly expensive. I guess it makes sense, though.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 10:20 PM
it’s for cops, they’ll pay whatever the price tag says lmao
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their other equipment is surprisingly cheap though
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especially vests and pads and the like
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 10:21 PM
My Grandfather brought back a Kar98k, Luger, and FB Vis. Kar98k also came complete with the bayonet.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 10:21 PM
Nice
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 10:21 PM
He served in WW2. Airborne.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 10:21 PM
I’ve got my dad’s M9 bayonet from his time in the air force
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 10:21 PM
Sadly, the Luger was stolen when the house was broken into back in the 60s or so.
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I’ve got my dad’s M9 bayonet from his time in the air force
AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 10:22 PM
Those things are so cool.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 10:22 PM
Mhm
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Also have his PASGT helmet he stole took home from Iraq. Lots of cool shit overall
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/3/2023 10:23 PM
Sadly, my great grandfather never made it back from the war. He died during the Battle of the Bulge.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Sadly, my great grandfather never made it back from the war. He died during the Battle of the Bulge.
AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 10:23 PM
He died fighting for the world. He was a hero.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 10:24 PM
Few ways to go better than in service of killing Nazis
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/3/2023 10:24 PM
He gave his life standing against fascists. I'd be remiss if I wasn't prepared to do the same.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Sadly, my great grandfather never made it back from the war. He died during the Battle of the Bulge.
Grand Uncle died in the South Pacific of disease after leading a company in Guadalcanal. Dad's dad was on the computer development team in UK and helped build Eniac. Mom's dad was a waist gunner on a B-17G (they signed the treaty with Germany while his plane was in transit to UK from Greenland, became an alcoholic because of guilt for not actually seeing combat. Mom's mom was a MASH surgical nurse in Korea.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 10:37 PM
being a waist gunner i’d be glad to not see combat
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Grand Uncle died in the South Pacific of disease after leading a company in Guadalcanal. Dad's dad was on the computer development team in UK and helped build Eniac. Mom's dad was a waist gunner on a B-17G (they signed the treaty with Germany while his plane was in transit to UK from Greenland, became an alcoholic because of guilt for not actually seeing combat. Mom's mom was a MASH surgical nurse in Korea.
AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 10:38 PM
Geeez. My Grandfather never actually saw combat in WWII, but he nearly died a few times. Long stories. Still though, your family has a wonderful history of fighting fash.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 10:38 PM
that shit had average survival time under a month iirc
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 10:39 PM
I saw a photo of a bottom ball-turret that came in on landing with no landing gear. The gunner was trapped inside.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 10:39 PM
Yeah 11 missions was the life expectancy of a B-17 crew
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Geeez. My Grandfather never actually saw combat in WWII, but he nearly died a few times. Long stories. Still though, your family has a wonderful history of fighting fash.
And of absolutely shitty behavior towards family members... Dad's father had his first wife committed because she wasn't subservient enough.
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Then revoked his promise of paying half my college tuition after I got out of the military because he said the offer was only valid if I didn't go into the military. Also horribly abused his second wife, and was a narcissistic asshole to his children (except my dad who was his "golden child")... so yeah he's responsible in part for a lot of computer development and breaking nazi codes, but he's still a fucking asshole who I'm glad is in hell. (edited)
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That sounds about right
10:45 PM
half of WWII vets were cool but the other half were possibly undiagnosed psychopaths or Narcissists
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half of WWII vets were cool but the other half were possibly undiagnosed psychopaths or Narcissists
Well given the prevalence of child abuse and neglect in our culture, the later isn't surprising. I've known more people who've had narcissistic parents, and their own narcissistic traits than not. Myself and my wife included.
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Lead poisoning might also be a factor too
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the symptoms of lead poisoning also can mimic Psychopathy too
10:48 PM
unfortunately
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Yeah, I thankfully didn't get a lot of it from the smog in LA because of the shift to unleaded gas, but boomers are pretty much all fucked.
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For once, my grandparents being from rural Mexico saved their ass lowkey. They got in after LA started the shift to unleaded gas
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and I mean rural
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 10:51 PM
Always nice to meet people who live(d) in southern California. I was born in Bakersfield. Gross, but not as bad as Taft or Tehachapi. or Oildale.
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same. Born and raised Californian
10:51 PM
ditto mom
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but the grandparents are definitely from rural Mexico
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Durango I think
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My grandma was a kid when she moved to California and my grandpa came to LA as a young man (in their words) (edited)
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both are from Durango tho
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 10:53 PM
I've always wanted to visit Mexico. Seems beautiful.
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Always nice to meet people who live(d) in southern California. I was born in Bakersfield. Gross, but not as bad as Taft or Tehachapi. or Oildale.
The first fash I punched was my cousin from Visalia.
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but the grandparents are definitely from rural Mexico
AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 10:53 PM
How rural is rural? 20 miles from the city? Or more like 50?
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its always the fucking farming communities tbh
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How rural is rural? 20 miles from the city? Or more like 50?
I'm not sure on which towns exactly (I gotta ask them next time I see them) but like "didn't get running water til the 80s rural"
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its always the fucking farming communities tbh
My uncle married the daughter of one of the biggest almond farmers there... that whole family was racist as fuck and deserved to die.
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Almond farmers
10:55 PM
and I hate him on sight
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 10:55 PM
My computer sucks. I think it might disconnect me from my wifi soon as it is getting slow. Does this way too much.
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you didn't even need to say racist
10:55 PM
just saying Almond farmer makes me hate his guts
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10:55 PM
Grew up in the LA/San Bernadino area. we don't like almond farmers
10:55 PM
greedy fuckers
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 10:56 PM
My father knew the guy who owned one of the largest something corporations in southern California. Forget what exactly it is they do.
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almond farmers are 100% why I wanna build a victory garden
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Almond farmers
Yeah... Jason the cousin in question was bragging to me about making the JV football team his freshman year and telling me about going migrant farmer beating after practice. He didn't use the term migrant farmer. I started punching and didn't stop till my uncle pulled me off.
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Yeah... Jason the cousin in question was bragging to me about making the JV football team his freshman year and telling me about going migrant farmer beating after practice. He didn't use the term migrant farmer. I started punching and didn't stop till my uncle pulled me off.
AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 10:56 PM
Good man, doing that. Guy deserved it.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/3/2023 10:56 PM
As was deserved.
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If shit goes down, I say we burn the farms
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 10:57 PM
FUCK MONOCROPS.
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It was the first fight I was in that had zero dialogue prior to the punch from me.
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URBAN FARMING SHOULD BE STANDARD. CITIES SHOULD MOVE PAST THE NEED FOR FARMERS HOLDING US HOSTAGE
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That's when I figured out it was better to not say anything before throwing a punch.
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yeah I be the same
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URBAN FARMING SHOULD BE STANDARD. CITIES SHOULD MOVE PAST THE NEED FOR FARMERS HOLDING US HOSTAGE
In an anarchist collective federation rural collectives can produce a variety urban collectives cannot, whereas urban collectives can produce more technical items rural collectives cannot.
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provided, I'm the kind of person who's first response to a peeping tom was to try and cave the guy's head in my response might not be usual
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/3/2023 11:00 PM
Aside from Trump splitting my family in half, I haven't had much fascist experience. Then I hit college and now, out of my most recent friend group, two turned out to be the typical clueless libertarians and the other, an ex-soldier who I trusted greatly, has recently revealed himself as a Trump-supporting transphobic antivaxxer who thinks Ukraine is a waste of money.
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your ex-friend is a shit soldier then
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This is why I'm a free socialist collectivist. Because we need the variety of collectives working together to have the quality of life we want.
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anyone with a inkling of geopolitics realize Ukraine would be a godsend if they win
11:01 PM
crush your enemy, get a good ally and get to reinforce your political influence
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/3/2023 11:01 PM
And this dipshit knows I'm in AIF and an antifascist.
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anyone with a inkling of geopolitics realize Ukraine would be a godsend if they win
Assuming the government doesn't crackdown on lefties after they get done with Russia.
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 11:01 PM
That war has major geopolitical implications that a lot of people don't realize. Way more than anyone can figure out
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assuming the original right wing government even remains'
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Assuming the government doesn't crackdown on lefties after they get done with Russia.
Can't. EU's spywork would ironically keep a eye on them and EU spies got their own sphere of influence.
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assuming the original right wing government even remains'
AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 11:03 PM
Seems like they'd want to step away from right wing governments after being invaded by people trying to start their own right-wing empire who are backed by tons of right-wingers, but people have a habit of doing the unexpected.
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It wouldn't surprise me as we type rn, Germany's building up to a America size army in the future
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Seems like they'd want to step away from right wing governments after being invaded by people trying to start their own right-wing empire who are backed by tons of right-wingers, but people have a habit of doing the unexpected.
Trauma is a hellva teacher imo.
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 11:03 PM
Truly it is.
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hey the civil rights shit got started in part due to how Black vets were treated
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 11:05 PM
I remember reading about that. They wanted equal rights because many of them fought and died in WWII, and so they (rightly) felt that they deserved equal treatment, correct?
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yup
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and they did get some allies in former soldiers
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 11:06 PM
Just need to say it, everyone here seems a lot smarter than the vast majority of fashies and wannabe fashies I have encountered.
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who in turn help craft the tactics in the first, more aggressive protests.
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Hell the gun idea came from Black Panthers, but Panthers got it from their vets
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a lot of people forget that despite their disagreements, Luther and Malcom had a agreement
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Luther's protests would go first, peaceful
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if the town was violent then the armed protests showed up
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the implication was clear, fuck with the peaceful protestors, you get a armed mob in your town real quick
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/3/2023 11:08 PM
As it should be.
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 11:08 PM
That's the way it should be. "We give you a chance to be peaceful. If you don't take it, then you'll get something a bit spicier."
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so basically:
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/3/2023 11:08 PM
Violence should never be the first solution but it should also never be totally off the table.
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11:09 PM
basically
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 11:09 PM
Why is that so fitting yet so ironic
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That specific reference?
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weird comparison but basically it was a sword of Diamolocies but instead of power it was "be a basic decent person you fucking jackass"
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admittedly the tone in my head was Luther channeling Mr Burns ironically even tho Simpsons is a 90s show
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Violence should never be the first solution but it should also never be totally off the table.
The question is... what level of violence is the line. 2020 showed that when you protest peacefully, violence will be used against you. At what point does violence become legitimate given the history of authority enacting violence on peaceful protests?
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my argument is when they shoot first
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weird comparison but basically it was a sword of Diamolocies but instead of power it was "be a basic decent person you fucking jackass"
I love modernizing Greek philosophers with modern slang.
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AvoidOblivion 1/3/2023 11:11 PM
As much as I am enjoying being here, I need to get some sleep. Good night everyone, it was great talking.
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cops have been less likely to be gun ho with armed protestors
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case in point, drag shows in Housin
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Housian*
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my argument is when they shoot first
Houston.
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fuck sorry
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some days I can't spell
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also
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/3/2023 11:12 PM
lol
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I love modernizing Greek philosophers with modern slang.
I believe academia can do some modernizing and cursing is a valid verbal tactic
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MisterStompy 1/3/2023 11:13 PM
I wonder when we're gonna see gunshots. https://twitter.com/patriottakes/status/1610320755278987276
Marjorie Taylor Green is now openly attacking Matt Gaetz, Lauren Boebert, and others over the Speaker vote.
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the irony is the Sword of Damocles was a warning to the ruling class that despite their power, they COULD lose it all and force them to take their job seriously
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Honestly my hope is Boebert tries to take aim at a liberal and hits MTG
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as terrible as that is
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I wonder when we're gonna see gunshots. https://twitter.com/patriottakes/status/1610320755278987276
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/4/2023 12:05 AM
Of course he's pushing this.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/4/2023 12:09 AM
i love how she ignores how that hit was like... perfect for commotio cordis
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it was exactly in the bad spot
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it was in someone who's not too much over 20
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and it's like... perfectly in line with how commotio cordis is?
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I remember before Covid when travelling there was always a warning about travel vaccines, so hearing Covid vaxx stats makes me wonder how it stacks to every other vaccination
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Oh wait, “muh MRNA” vaxx is different. I mean i had hesitancy too but I’m still alive years later with red blood that’s still pumping and not thick orange goo that’s magnetic and HIV (I’ve been tested lmfao)
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I was told by my co workers like a “were so sorry you got vaxxed, here’s what we know” but nothing has happened yet. I respect everyone’s choice when it comes to that until they use “freedom” as a tool for dogwhistling
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/4/2023 1:09 AM
As fewer faculty members are protected by tenure, they’re finding it harder to resist laws that ban certain racial topics. Their students suffer the consequences.
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Fuck. DeSantis.
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I have scars on my knuckles from beating fash that are twice your age kid. You are in the wrong discord for pacifism.
Guy from mass 1/4/2023 6:18 AM
Same here buddy, your under the assumption that I've never seen violence just cause of my age
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I've had knifes pulled on me cause I'm bi and I've been in a couple of scuffles (edited)
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I just don't punch first
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I've seen alot of violence and pain in my life
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I have a hate for causing pain to anyone
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Fuck. DeSantis.
this shit is just straight out of the Nazi playbook. Scary times. (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/4/2023 8:55 AM
my friend, what you misunderstand is that our violence is not for the sake of violence - it’s to end it
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state and capital threatens you with violence on the daily if you don’t comply with it (edited)
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they have no shame in using violence against us to maintain their power and status quo, and nothing is more powerful than violence
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so if they will use it, we must use it in kind or be simply too weak
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it wasn’t the years of marching that brought the 1968 civil rights act; it was the week of unparalleled destruction after the killing of MLK that brought it
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it was people saying “We tried to work within your rules for too long, we’re going to force you to do what we want now.”
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By that point cops and racists had attacked and killed countless peaceful protestors. They didn’t care that they were peaceful, if anything it made them easier targets
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After a certain point, peace becomes pointless.
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The point of riots is not to put violence on people, but to show the leaders that we will get what we want. If they didn’t want destruction; they should’ve complied.
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Riots are what happen when democracy is no longer in service of the people but instead in service of the leader.
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I think you misunderstand and believe that we go out and destroy cities for fun and use killings or similar issues as excuses; No. Many of us abhor violence, but we also recognize that violence necessitates violence to end the violence. Since violence is the most powerful tool someone can use, we will need to meet it equally or it’s pointless.
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It’s all a power dynamic. Violence is a multiplier. The state and capital has no quarrels with using violence against us, so why should we be afraid to use it against them?
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Much like you, we don’t throw the first punch either. (edited)
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Much like you, we don’t throw the first punch either. (edited)
Oh no, I'm too old not to throw the first punch. But I've learned when it's inevitable and when it's not.
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TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 2:35 PM
So much for "free speech"
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Oh wait that only applies to neo-Nazis
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
By that point cops and racists had attacked and killed countless peaceful protestors. They didn’t care that they were peaceful, if anything it made them easier targets
The number of people who have become missing persons, or hung from a tree and had it ruled suicide, is literally uncountable. And the count if you tried would continue to this very day. Peaceful activists are murdered/disappeared even now. Six BLM organizers were murdered in 2020 by literal lynching. (edited)
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I think teachers need to take advantage of the free guns in schools and show up armed in protest. If the GOP gonna be a fascist dumbass, let them be devoured by their own tools
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The number of people who have become missing persons, or hung from a tree and had it ruled suicide, is literally uncountable. And the count if you tried would continue to this very day. Peaceful activists are murdered/disappeared even now. Six BLM organizers were murdered in 2020 by literal lynching. (edited)
And this is why Texas protest started arming up when Texas repealed the regulations. I've seen images of Drag queens packing if anyone gets funny ideas
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If your gonna try to stoke violence, expect violence back
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I think teachers need to take advantage of the free guns in schools and show up armed in protest. If the GOP gonna be a fascist dumbass, let them be devoured by their own tools
TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 2:46 PM
Malicious compliance is a bitch (edited)
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And this is why Texas protest started arming up when Texas repealed the regulations. I've seen images of Drag queens packing if anyone gets funny ideas
TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 2:46 PM
This is what any visibly marginalized group should do
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2:46 PM
My brother's partner already owns a gun
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My brother's gay by the way
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Remember, fascists rely on intimidation and fear to suppress their enemies
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By showing them we aren't afraid of them, they can't intimidate us
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The Nazis did that in Weimar Germany you know
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By showing them we aren't afraid of them, they can't intimidate us
This takes work though. From taking the time to get good with your firearm, to building the networks which support one another.
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TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 2:49 PM
The SA would beat and attack members of rival parties
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My dad's a redneck, so I do know how to shoot and how firearms work
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Tbh I'm in the school of thought that if it's something that can kill people, it should be regulated and yes this includes Guns. However I also believe trauma is the best teacher and if fascists are trying to free up Guns, they are gonna learn one way or another why a civil society needs gun control. Malicious compliance is a hellva tool. Use it
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TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 2:50 PM
A little rusty but I can get back up to speed
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My dad's a redneck, so I do know how to shoot and how firearms work
Yes but even an AR isn't gonna save one person from a mob with clubs. You need people with you. You need places to go after. When someone becomes a direct target they need a place to lay low.
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Tbh I'm in the school of thought that if it's something that can kill people, it should be regulated and yes this includes Guns. However I also believe trauma is the best teacher and if fascists are trying to free up Guns, they are gonna learn one way or another why a civil society needs gun control. Malicious compliance is a hellva tool. Use it
TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 2:51 PM
Yes this. I'm NOT anti-gun, as the 2A does serve a role
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What I'm against is letting any Joe Blow own a gun without any training or education on how to use it safely (edited)
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The Nazis did that in Weimar Germany you know
I hate to be that guy but nazis used gun control argument is unfortunate false https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_gun_control_argument
The Nazi gun control argument is the claim that gun regulations in Nazi Germany helped facilitate the rise of the Nazis and the Holocaust. Historians and fact-checkers have characterized the argument as dubious or false, and point out that Jews were under 1% of the population and that it would be unrealistic for such a small population to defen...
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I created a whole system for replacing police, training volunteers, and making that a requirement for gun ownership.
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I hate to be that guy but nazis used gun control argument is unfortunate false https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_gun_control_argument
TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 2:52 PM
I wasn't referring to gun control
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Yes but even an AR isn't gonna save one person from a mob with clubs. You need people with you. You need places to go after. When someone becomes a direct target they need a place to lay low.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/4/2023 2:52 PM
either go in with a wingman or don’t go at all
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Ah fuck I misread. Sorry, carry on
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TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 2:52 PM
I was referring to beating and intimidating political enemies into silence
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I hate to be that guy but nazis used gun control argument is unfortunate false https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_gun_control_argument
The argument relies upon Jews being the only oppressed population... they were not.
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The argument relies upon Jews being the only oppressed population... they were not.
TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 2:53 PM
I'm Jewish and the Nazis oppressed anybody who wasn't an ethnic German
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Right, there were 7million others who were slaughtered in the chambers/camps. 13 million people would have made for a hell of a resistance force.
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What was the total manpower of the French Resistance?
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Basically and a decent few were armed Guns don't necessarily win wars. Logistics
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TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 2:54 PM
There actually was Jewish resistance
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Logistics do
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Basically and a decent few were armed Guns don't necessarily win wars. Logistics
TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 2:54 PM
Look at WW2 as proof of this
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The Nazis lost the Eastern Front because their supply lines disintegrated
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oh lord, are we back on the "gun control was a Nazi plot" thing? time to mute this channel again 🙂
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The French Resistance totaled 500,000 people... and look at the damage they caused.
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TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 2:55 PM
Japan lost WW2 because they couldn't resupply
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AvoidOblivion 1/4/2023 2:56 PM
The French Resistance members were badass.
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TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 2:56 PM
Y'all get my point though?
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What I'm against is letting any Joe Blow own a gun without any training or education on how to use it safely (edited)
Tbh yeah! I argue that much like a car, you need a license, manditory training, insurance, a ccp and arguably a database to prevent half of gun deaths. And yes, database helps if your gun gets stolen and used in a crime you didn't commit.
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Y'all get my point though?
Reframe it as a single statement please I'm not sure I do.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/4/2023 2:57 PM
logistics wins wars
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idk how it’s relevant to the prior discussion
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Yup
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
logistics wins wars
Right... so I don't know why antifascism is not focused on creating the logistics network it needs to put up a resistance.
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Basically to make a concentrated unified effort with supply lines if shit does go south was the point @TheAnonymousDew was making
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AvoidOblivion 1/4/2023 2:58 PM
I’m absolutely willing to get my ham radio license and a setup if it’d help.
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oh lord, are we back on the "gun control was a Nazi plot" thing? time to mute this channel again 🙂
No, that was me misreading a thing
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Reframe it as a single statement please I'm not sure I do.
TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 2:58 PM
Poor logistics lost WW2
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/4/2023 2:58 PM
we focus on just making organizations and not actually working towards material things unfortunately
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I'm trying to see if I can convincey city to make a urban farm/garden
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Convince*
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TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 2:59 PM
Even if I'm content to have a behind the scenes role, that doesn't mean it's a bad thing
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we focus on just making organizations and not actually working towards material things unfortunately
Well I'd argue that those organizations are focused on direct action (which is a necessary component) but totally lack in the network of logistics needed to put up a sustained resistance.
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Even if I'm content to have a behind the scenes role, that doesn't mean it's a bad thing
For every 1 front line combatant it takes 10 behind them supporting them. It's not a glamorous duty, but a necessary one.
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TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 3:00 PM
We also need a PR wing
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As in handling messaging
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That too
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Someone gotta be a propagandist
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TheAnonymousDew
We also need a PR wing
That's factored into the 10 support people for every front liner.
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TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 3:01 PM
We have to counter the narrative and remind the general public of our cause
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Also, we're going to attract some extremists, we have to be prepared to condemn them if they go too far
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We have to counter the narrative and remind the general public of our cause
AvoidOblivion 1/4/2023 3:02 PM
I can guarantee you that if I went onto Reddit and asked about anarchism, most of the answers would be dis-/mis-information.
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TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 3:02 PM
That's the nature of any resistance movemebt
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I'm no anarchist by the way
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I'm a New Deal progressive
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Also, we're going to attract some extremists, we have to be prepared to condemn them if they go too far
Nope... that's not how that works. You cannot have a centralized authority over a resistance movement. The extremists are on their own if they go too far, but you do NOT address it at all. They are not part of your org.
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Nope... that's not how that works. You cannot have a centralized authority over a resistance movement. The extremists are on their own if they go too far, but you do NOT address it at all. They are not part of your org.
TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 3:03 PM
I see
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Oh I get it,
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A loose coalition
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But wouldn't coordinating attacks without some kind of structure be difficult?
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Hence why the American left has never been able to organize effectively?
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Or why the Paris Commune failed?
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A few things to unpack there. 1: Resistance orgs don't work with a central leadership, they die. 2: Any segment of the whole may have to do things that may seem extreme to others at any given time, or painted in the wrong light by the opposition. 3: If there are any REALLY extremist segments... suggest better targets for it and cut ties.
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But wouldn't coordinating attacks without some kind of structure be difficult?
Federation of autonomous collectives doesn't mean no coordination. It just means no centralized coordination.
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Paris Commune had a lot of problems, not the least of which was their stanning Lewis Henry Morgan.
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TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 3:07 PM
I see
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It would take an entire dissertation to discuss why it fell. I'm sure someone has done one or ten.
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AvoidOblivion 1/4/2023 3:08 PM
Sounds like you’re suggesting that you’ve written something on it.
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Hence why the American left has never been able to organize effectively?
The biggest blow to American Leftists was the assassination of the VP. That said, the accomplishments FAR out weigh it. 8 hour work day, 40 hour work week, OSHA, Unions... etc. (edited)
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Sounds like you’re suggesting that you’ve written something on it.
AvoidOblivion 1/4/2023 3:09 PM
I’ll be honest, I’ve never heard of the Paris Commune.
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Countless lives have been saved by the labor movement of the US.
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TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 3:10 PM
Thing is it's still not enough
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Thing is it's still not enough
Sam Dolgoff Misconceptions of Anarchism 1986 This talk discussed the main principles of constructive anarchism.
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TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 3:10 PM
Even then, American workers are still overworked and underpaid compared to the rest of the world
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It's all a progress. There will never be a utopia.
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TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 3:11 PM
No, I'm not in any way suggesting that
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Movement towards a better world is the goal in and of itself.
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TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 3:12 PM
And to move on, not all MAGAs are our enemies. Many have been misguided
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The racist Southern lost causer wing absolutely are though
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And to move on, not all MAGAs are our enemies. Many have been misguided
I'll acknowledge that, but I've yet to see someone come up with a worthwhile solution that isn't lead by example and show them a better way. Because their cognitive dissonance is so great it's impossible to reason with them, on average. (edited)
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And to move on, not all MAGAs are our enemies. Many have been misguided
I can personally attest to this
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I was one of em
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I'll acknowledge that, but I've yet to see someone come up with a worthwhile solution that isn't lead by example and show them a better way. Because their cognitive dissonance is so great it's impossible to reason with them, on average. (edited)
TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 3:14 PM
We have to counter the misinformation machine that Rupert Murdoch and the like have built (edited)
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But how?
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We have to counter the misinformation machine that Rupert Murdoch and the like have built (edited)
I've seen a lot of people try that, and it always devolves into self aggrandizement and mudslinging.
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TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 3:16 PM
Speaking of Rupert Murdoch, I did have an idea for when we win.
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I don't want to eat Rupert.
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Thanks for the offer though,
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TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 3:16 PM
The idea is to denaturalize and deport Rupert and Lachlan Murdoch and ban them both from ever setting foor in the US again, and then shut Fox News down or nationalize it (edited)
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I think either life in prison or execution. IF we win. We can't be so sure of ourselves that our victory is assured, it isn't.
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TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 3:17 PM
Your thoughts?
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And yes we can denaturalize people (edited)
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Hence why the American left has never been able to organize effectively?
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/4/2023 3:18 PM
we’re too big geographically to organize a resistance nationwide
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Your thoughts?
So long as there is a federal government there is no winning. Both parties are complicit in the rise of fascism in the US. The system itself is designed to have those two parties in power. And for that system to protect the wealthy who have been spending billions of dollars promoting fascism.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/4/2023 3:19 PM
the lovely thing about decentralization is that every local group knows what their area needs
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The idea is to denaturalize and deport Rupert and Lachlan Murdoch and ban them both from ever setting foor in the US again, and then shut Fox News down or nationalize it (edited)
AvoidOblivion 1/4/2023 3:19 PM
This sounds good. You can bet they’d try to flee to Russia if Poopin still controls it.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/4/2023 3:19 PM
when you have enough groups working to help their local community, it has the same results as a strongly centralized system but much more efficient and much more flexible
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and also without any of the beauracracy and power of a centralized movement
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BubsyFanboy 1/4/2023 3:20 PM
https://twitter.com/KrzysztofBrejza/status/1610613235773759490 Remember how the chief officer of the polish police has fired a grenade launched in his office? Well, we now have information that the National Fire Department headquarters has called off the firefighters and forbade them from intervention. This was reportedly done to prevent any spread of information about the subject or the initiation of any security and investigation procedures.
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Our government protects Rupert Murdoch more than it protects us. We don't win against those forces without totally reworking the system.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/4/2023 3:21 PM
when we supply each other and help each other, change will come so much faster when people are no longer afraid of losing their security (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
when we supply each other and help each other, change will come so much faster when people are no longer afraid of losing their security (edited)
Hence why my primary goal in life is to build replacements for capitalist provided needs.
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Without that in a decentralized, and autonomous federation form, we'll never be able to free people of their reliance upon the system that oppresses and kills them.
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And to move on, not all MAGAs are our enemies. Many have been misguided
There is a cure and it's called Sherman marching But more seriously, systematic and generational trauma seems to be the best bet when combating fascist thought. Specifically systematic destruction of the fascist culture, history and iconography except their crimes and repeatingly and aggressively offering them the olive branch...but keep the threat of the sword on hand. If they surrender. Rebuild them. Culture them and teach them empathy and kindness and to see the other as a fellow man. But never forget to remind them of the sword over their heads. E.i. Marshall plan this shit
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In more layman's, both Marshall plan and Sherman marching argue that treasonous and fascist thought will fester if we just killed their soldiers but left the civilians alone, which the enemy could return to and reinforce the fascist thoughts through lies and propaganda and glorification
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Sherman realizes to fully stamp out Confederate sympathies, the war must come to the civilian
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But he didn't necessarily want to give the South more reason to hate the north So Sherman march: spare the civilian But burn everything else to the ground
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The bombing of German during wwii was part a form of war time army crippling but also a form of Sherman marching, for better or worse
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With all due respect to you. Sherman and Marshall both were fucking ignorant on how social change is made.
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Can't be that ignorant considering it worked for the most part
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Can't be that ignorant considering it worked for the most part
Ummm every single cultural belief that led to the Civil War is still alive and well in the south. How well did it work?
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No Literally every single researcher from psychologists to anthropologists can agree on that one point. Force is not the way to change cultural beliefs.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/4/2023 3:52 PM
If anything, it strengthens them.
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Because of the actions of Lincoln's successor "Andrew Johnson" actively sabotaged Restorations (which to be fair, was like a proto-Marshall plan)
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TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 3:53 PM
Reconstruction failed in that respect
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
If anything, it strengthens them.
Tell that to Atlanta
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There is a cure and it's called Sherman marching But more seriously, systematic and generational trauma seems to be the best bet when combating fascist thought. Specifically systematic destruction of the fascist culture, history and iconography except their crimes and repeatingly and aggressively offering them the olive branch...but keep the threat of the sword on hand. If they surrender. Rebuild them. Culture them and teach them empathy and kindness and to see the other as a fellow man. But never forget to remind them of the sword over their heads. E.i. Marshall plan this shit
TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 3:53 PM
Like what we did in post WW2 Germany?
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Yeah basically
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Systematic guilt shaming a country for generations for its crimes
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Tell that to Atlanta
TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 3:54 PM
Thing is post Civil War Atlanta became the city too busy to hate
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Atlanta was the one city in the South that didn't have race related violence during the era of the Civil Rights movement
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it also was one of the first cities to be in the Civil rights movement too and part of that has to deal with the Sherman March and resulting restoration
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
If anything, it strengthens them.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/4/2023 3:55 PM
All that did was temporarily pacify them
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it also was one of the first cities to be in the Civil rights movement too and part of that has to deal with the Sherman March and resulting restoration
TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 3:56 PM
And now look at Atlanta today. It's a wonderful city
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What helped too was that Atlanta was rewarded after segregation ended with an MLB and NFL team
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my point
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Systematic guilt shaming a country for generations for its crimes
And yet Germany has the largest underground fascist movement in Europe... perhaps arguably other than Serbia.
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Source?
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Source?
Where is yours for claiming the south has been cleansed of it's racist and secessionist ideology? Last I checked Texas GOP has secession on their platform.
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I'm telling you that psychologists and anthropologists and sociologists all agree that using force to change culture doesn't work... it promotes the opposite even if the force drives the ideas underground. What works is leading by example, gifting those examples to others so they can benefit from the change.
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I never said that. I said Sherman's goal was that and it inspired Marshall's plan. Which did work. Sherman's March ultimately failed because he wasn't allowed to finish PLUS Restoration was actively Sabotaged
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MisterStompy 1/4/2023 5:17 PM
This is the most fun I've had in a while. https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1610725460861931520
BREAKING: Kevin McCarthy has failed again to secure the votes to be speaker, losing on a *fifth ballot. 20 Republicans voted for someone other than McCarthy.
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MisterStompy 1/4/2023 5:18 PM
BOOM! The results of the SIXTH round: Hakeem Jeffries - 212 Kevin McCarthy - 201 Byron Donalds - 20 Present - 1 Team Hakeem earns the highest number of votes for a sixth time!
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Hilarious.
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AvoidOblivion 1/4/2023 5:22 PM
Six more were needed for Jeffries, correct?
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TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 5:22 PM
Have we already hit the authoritarians destroying themselves through infighting phase?
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TheAnonymousDew
Have we already hit the authoritarians destroying themselves through infighting phase?
Naw, these are all just part of the puppet caste. They are expected to do this.
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wait for it
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TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 5:23 PM
You're giving Trump too much credit
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Uhhhhhh guys???
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rn dems need to unify and get their shit together
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TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 5:24 PM
He's so incompetent he managed to run SIX casinos into the ground
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maybe so, but he's lucky enough to get more money
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a moron can still cause a lot of shit
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TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 5:24 PM
Even running one casino into the ground is an achievement in failure, but SIX?!
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AvoidOblivion 1/4/2023 5:24 PM
I'll admit that Trump is a genius. But only when it comes to destroying things in a spectacular manner.
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Uhhhhhh guys???
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/4/2023 5:25 PM
Wait what did trump do
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MisterStompy 1/4/2023 5:25 PM
Marjorie Traitor Greene disgusts me. Just look at how smug her face is front row with the McStablishment. She really is a cancer in our movement. She is a Trojan horse and she gets paid to undermine America First for RINOS like McCarthy. #NeverKevin
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/4/2023 5:25 PM
Fuck I really want him to run
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That will prevent DeSantis, the real danger from getting office hopefully
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Wait what did trump do
MisterStompy 1/4/2023 5:26 PM
made a half assed endorsement of McCarthy
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/4/2023 5:26 PM
I haven’t kept up with congressional politics for a few weeks who and what is McCarthy? sorry
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That will prevent DeSantis, the real danger from getting office hopefully
TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 5:26 PM
Thing is Trump's ego should prevent DeSantis from winning either way
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I haven’t kept up with congressional politics for a few weeks who and what is McCarthy? sorry
AvoidOblivion 1/4/2023 5:27 PM
In sum: a cockhead from a considerably right-wing city in California who has been a major thorn in the asshole of the nation for some years now. He is a joke. (edited)
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TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 5:28 PM
Ah yes Bakersfield
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archon
Uhhhhhh guys???
Did one of us get outed?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/4/2023 5:28 PM
explain
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TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 5:28 PM
It getting nuked to hell in Fallout was an improvement
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Did one of us get outed?
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/4/2023 5:29 PM
Who’s “They”?
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AvoidOblivion 1/4/2023 5:29 PM
It really was. A friend I knew went back there after he moved away while in grade school, because he thought it was a good place to attend college.
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His opinion was disfigured by rose-tinted lenses and a desire for something that never was.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Who’s “They”?
Absolutely no idea
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And that's my concern with this
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MisterStompy 1/4/2023 5:31 PM
Is it that Mass guy or whatever?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/4/2023 5:31 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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archon
Absolutely no idea
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/4/2023 5:32 PM
I think its the website when they reffer to 'They'
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archon
Uhhhhhh guys???
Gonna need some more context. What is going on in this screenshot that's important? Sorry I'm really lost on what's going on with it
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Gonna need some more context. What is going on in this screenshot that's important? Sorry I'm really lost on what's going on with it
AvoidOblivion 1/4/2023 5:34 PM
I'm wondering the same.
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Gonna need some more context. What is going on in this screenshot that's important? Sorry I'm really lost on what's going on with it
Personally, I have no idea either. My concern is one of us got outed
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But it could be something else entirely
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Hm. Not necessarily from our org. Worth checking on. Maybe move it over to research channel and try to figure out who it is?
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Is that a Twitter handle?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/4/2023 5:36 PM
No one got outed
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OkraMonk
Is that a Twitter handle?
MisterStompy 1/4/2023 5:36 PM
no it's a discord @
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/4/2023 5:36 PM
i can confirm that
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the big news is that trump fans are turning on him
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after he shilled kevin mcarthey
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no it's a discord @
Ah I see. I can't find that name in a search so hopefully they're not ours
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LessthanLoneWolf 1/4/2023 5:38 PM
I really hope the hardcore fans stuck around. I really want trump to split the votes
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I really hope the hardcore fans stuck around. I really want trump to split the votes
MisterStompy 1/4/2023 5:38 PM
If Trump runs independent it will bring most of his fans back, it'll be seen as 4D chess against the establishmen to nominate McCarthy
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If Trump runs independent it will bring most of his fans back, it'll be seen as 4D chess against the establishmen to nominate McCarthy
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/4/2023 5:39 PM
the only time independent will ever make a big splash in the frying pan
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the only time independent will ever make a big splash in the frying pan
AvoidOblivion 1/4/2023 5:39 PM
Which is sad. The two-party system is not a good way of handling politics.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/4/2023 5:40 PM
true....but oh well...if he goes independent, then this will be the one time the two party will be useful for the preservation of democracy
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and even then, we're gonna have to see what new dumbass they put as the face of the republican party
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and even then, we're gonna have to see what new dumbass they put as the face of the republican party
LessthanLoneWolf 1/4/2023 5:42 PM
And the Democrats.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/4/2023 5:42 PM
yyyep
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LessthanLoneWolf 1/4/2023 5:42 PM
Our politics are so fucked and broken
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/4/2023 5:43 PM
honestly i'm still confused as to what the hell happened with bernie sanders
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AvoidOblivion 1/4/2023 5:44 PM
People were afraid of him because he didn't follow traditional party lines. That's part of it.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/4/2023 5:44 PM
damn
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LessthanLoneWolf 1/4/2023 5:44 PM
Too socialist for liberals, not socialist enough for the Left?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/4/2023 5:44 PM
makes sense
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MisterStompy 1/4/2023 5:45 PM
OH MY GOD THEY DID IT. THEY ACTUALLY DID IT.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/4/2023 5:45 PM
whenever i saw what he wanted i said to myself "Hey that makes sense"/"That can better the u.s"
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MisterStompy 1/4/2023 5:45 PM
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/4/2023 5:45 PM
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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no more buggatti
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AvoidOblivion 1/4/2023 5:46 PM
What is that song singing about? I want to make sure I'm not enjoying some fucked up song.
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What is that song singing about? I want to make sure I'm not enjoying some fucked up song.
MisterStompy 1/4/2023 5:47 PM
It's just about Romanians being handsome and going to war
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AvoidOblivion 1/4/2023 5:47 PM
Good. And with that, it is a good song.
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MisterStompy 1/4/2023 5:47 PM
Farewell, farewell, drum is beating, farewell brave Romanians, hooray With the sack strapped to your backs, with the weapons in your hands, hooray Be it sunny day, be it, or a cloudy sky Be it rain or snowing, be it, we walk happily, farewell Farewell farewell drum is beating, farewell brave Romanians, hooray With the sack strapped to your backs, with the weapons in your hands, hooray May the flag shine, the flag, for it we live May the country flourish, the country, for her we die, farewell Farewell, farewell, drum is beating, farewell brave Romanians, hooray With the sack strapped to your backs, with the weapons in your hands, hooray Be it sunny day, be it, or a cloudy sky Be it rain or snowing, be it, we walk happily, farewell
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It was written some time around 1856
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/4/2023 5:53 PM
Law enforcement officers really enjoy performing warrantless searches. To get to that point, however, they need to be in certain places (airports, roadsides) and have one certain thing: “reas…
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and this is gonna be hell in court
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MisterStompy 1/4/2023 6:04 PM
Wait the Romanian government might sell Tate's cars
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Wait the Romanian government might sell Tate's cars
I'll put a bid of 100 on one.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/4/2023 7:13 PM
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I'm surprised this guy just came out of nowhere and gained so muh popularity among the republican party
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LessthanLoneWolf 1/4/2023 7:45 PM
Didn’t he lose a 6th vote?
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When Greta owns you she does it so bad the authorities take your stuff. That's my line and I'm sticking to it
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hey yo Boebort is calling out Trump live
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Its just for fascist brownie points but its hilarious seeing the GOP about to rip itself apart
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was spotted chatting with her GOP congressional colleagues Matt Gaetz and Paul Gosar during Tuesday's votes.
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Nice to see Dem's being the ones to starve the beast
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or more accurately, the Beast is finally biting back
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BubsyFanboy 1/5/2023 11:33 AM
The nationalist party isn’t going to have an easy time winning for a third time this year, but it’s in with a chance.
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I've really been very impressed with the Dems' party discipline here. Quite unexpected.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/5/2023 1:12 PM
.@RepMattGaetz votes for former President Donald Trump for Speaker of the House. #118thCongress
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AvoidOblivion 1/5/2023 1:16 PM
How can he become any more of a clown?
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Gaetz is a backass, but this is him trying to avoid Jeffries as speaker AND McCarthy
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jackass*
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not even Trump has the votes
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just give Jeffries the fucking job
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Frankly don't care so long as it's not the mummy again.
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she's retired
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Oh thank fuck.
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Frankly don't care so long as it's not the mummy again.
AvoidOblivion 1/5/2023 1:17 PM
I assume you mean Pelosi?
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I assume you mean Pelosi?
<insert snark here> (edited)
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tbh I suspect she retired due to nearly being fucking murdered twice
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AvoidOblivion 1/5/2023 1:18 PM
I agree. She has needed to go for a while.
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you may hate her, but she got shit done for dems when needed
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she kept Manchin's balls in vice for dem judges
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and out of the two, I HATE Manchin more
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you may hate her, but she got shit done for dems when needed
Yeah... she did such a great job getting a law codifying Roe V Wade into the books.
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She did a fantastic job getting the average joe stimulus checks in the still continuing pandemic.
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She did a great job supporting the railroad union.
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Manchin's bad too.
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I mean I could give your argument some credibility, if we both acknowledge that what Dems needed wasn't what the people needed.
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The people needed their rights codified into law... Dems didn't do it. The people needed financial support while corporations raked in unparalleled profits and monetary gifts from the government... Dems didn't do it. The people needed extensions on protections from eviction and food stamp programs... Dems didn't do it. The people needed a congress to back their labor efforts against those corporations exploiting them... Dems didn't do that either. (edited)
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So sure, she might have fought for Democrats... but certainly didn't fight for the people.
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She also passed protection for lgbta marriages, making them codified law and crippling the Supreme courts ruling. She also gave groundwork for state dems to work on condifying abortion as a state right too, which, several states did do. She's been the one to keep contraception in medical protection, she's been a huge advocate for weed legalization and taking apart laws punishing those who sell or have weed in their position, she also was instrumental for passing the CHIPs and science act, the infrastructure act and repealed don't ask, don't tell
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She also passed protection for lgbta marriages, making them codified law and crippling the Supreme courts ruling. She also gave groundwork for state dems to work on condifying abortion as a state right too, which, several states did do. She's been the one to keep contraception in medical protection, she's been a huge advocate for weed legalization and taking apart laws punishing those who sell or have weed in their position, she also was instrumental for passing the CHIPs and science act, the infrastructure act and repealed don't ask, don't tell
The LGBTQIA marriage protection doesn't protect anything but existing marriages, states will legally have the right to withhold new licenses once the SCOTUS ruling is overturned.
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I don't like her either, but I know that she got shit done. Roe v Wade's overruling is illegitimate, but they do NOT have the votes to investigate and repeal the Supreme court... Unless you have a way of crippling gerrymandered districts
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Incidentally, that protection is already in the constitution as Equal Protection.
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I don't like her either, but I know that she got shit done. Roe v Wade's overruling is illegitimate, but they do NOT have the votes to investigate and repeal the Supreme court... Unless you have a way of crippling gerrymandered districts
What'd she do leading the charge against Gerrymandering?
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The supreme court is ignoring the Equal Protection (which I argue should have gotten them arrested right then and there) because that covered Roe too
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atm, nothing because she's not speaker anymore
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What DID she do... we've been aware of the gerrymandering the entire time she's been getting rich as a member of congress.
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the problem is gerrymandering is in the domain of the state. It fucking shouldn't. But she didn't have the power to challenge it
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It really is up to the people in the states
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My point is... the shit she got done wasn't shit the people needed... with perhaps the exception of contraception... Legal weed, every effort she pushed locally was centered around corporate ownership and growing models not private ownership of dispensaries and grow houses.
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The LGBTQIA marriage protection doesn't protect anything but existing marriages, states will legally have the right to withhold new licenses once the SCOTUS ruling is overturned.
yeah, except the internet is a thing now and all it takes is a small start up to make online weddings a thing in a legal state. Which would put it out of the Supreme Court's bias hands
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and yes, the marriage protection makes it that if you get married in another state, states that try to ban gay marriages, can't withold it. Because it fucks with another state's right
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and yes, the marriage protection makes it that if you get married in another state, states that try to ban gay marriages, can't withold it. Because it fucks with another state's right
Which is already a core part of the constitution. The MPA bill is just pandering.
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yeah but tell that to the illegit Supreme court
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Especially since SCOTUS is specifically there to be the counter to laws passed by congress. SCOTUS trumps laws.
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Andrew Jackson says otherwise
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but more seriously, the civil war reminds ya'll they tried to repeal a law by congress and it lead to a civil war
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yeah but tell that to the illegit Supreme court
Andrew Jackson didn't write any of the federalist papers.
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the SCOTUS lost a LOT of power in dredd scott
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and I have a hunch that in the upcoming troubles, they're gonna lose more
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Are you trying to convince me that Pelosi is a decent human being who cares about the citizens of the United States? Or just that she wasn't quite as bad as Manchin?
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the later more so
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Okay, I'll grant the second one.
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but I do feel some criticism on her is colored by right wing propaganda
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after all
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this includes you
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Andrew Jackson didn't write any of the federalist papers.
also no, but he showed that if you really REALLY fucking wanted to, you can ignore the Supreme court rulings
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I watched her entire career first hand growing up in California. I didn't need right wing media to tell me what kind of person she is.
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I was ten when she became a congressperson. I remember the hope in my mother's eyes when she won.
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And I watched as she spent her entire career doing exactly what all the other establishment dems did... Pander to their constituents and sell them out when it benefitted them.
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and since she got into office, she's been a target of republican disinfo
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there's a lot of legit criticism of her, namely her refusal to deal with insider trading, part cause of her husband, but also in part because of how common it is in house politics, but she's infinitely better then any GOP fuck
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I gave you that she isn't as bad as Manchin. Take your win, and leave it at that. Or you can keep accusing me of falling for GOP propaganda when I've been alive and politically aware the entire time she's been in power... and also never have trusted GOP news sources.
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But if you keep accusing me of that, we'll have a problem personally. I don't want that. Do you?
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no
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Okay then. Settled. She's not as horrible as Manchin. Glad we're on the same page.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/5/2023 2:29 PM
I feel like the only reason I'm not an anarchist is because I want to see humankind spread amongst the stars. THEN I'll become an anarchist. Because who the fuck's going to tell me what to do when I'm lightyears away from where your laws have jurisdiction?
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I feel like the only reason I'm not an anarchist is because I want to see humankind spread amongst the stars. THEN I'll become an anarchist. Because who the fuck's going to tell me what to do when I'm lightyears away from where your laws have jurisdiction?
Interlinked collectives can work on collective projects together. The only thing preventing egalitarian autonomous collectives from space travel is the capitalist mindset.
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That said, Expanse is a much more likely near future scenario at this point.
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O P A !!!!
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8 fucking rounds
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McCarthy has 8 fucking rounds of not being speaker of the house
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My wife pointed out that this is a clear indication of GOP insanity.
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Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
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your wife be right
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your wife be right
She often is. Just ask her.
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but I do feel some criticism on her is colored by right wing propaganda
just a LITTLE BIT
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STILL NO SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE
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this is going to be the longest Speaker election since the Civil War
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OH MY GOD Ali Alexander, fascist dickweasel, is openly calling MTG a ho and says he has evidence of her committing a crime
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in fighting is beginning
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pass the damn popcorn
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BubsyFanboy 1/5/2023 3:30 PM
https://twitter.com/The_TUC/status/1611028421882122241 Britain is reportedly passing anti-strike legistation.
BREAKING🚨| The government has announced anti-strike legislation. When workers democratically vote to strike, they can be forced to work and sacked if they don’t. This is wrong, unworkable, and almost certainly illegal.
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time for sabotage
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pass the damn popcorn
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YES
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AND ITS GONNA BE 10
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I imagine if six of them get fed up and vote in opposition, they will have rather large targets on their back within minutes.
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That said, it'd be hilarious to have a Dem speaker with a GOP majority.
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If just 11 of them voted Present, that would do it.
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your wife be right
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/5/2023 4:42 PM
the wife is always right
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even when she isn’t
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lmao
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Just found some interesting fashy shit. From 'Democracy The God that Failed' by Hans Hermann Hoppe - Through nondiscrimination laws—one cannot discriminate against Germans, Jews, Blacks, Catholics, Hindus, homosexuals, etc.—the government will want to increase the physical access and entrance to everyone's property to everyone else. Thus, it is hardly surprising that the so-called "civil rights" legislation in the United States, which outlawed domestic discrimination on the basis of color, race, national origin, religion, gender, age, sexual orientation, disability, etc., and which thereby actually mandated forced integration, coincided with the adoption of a nondiscriminatory immigration policy; i.e., mandated international desegregation (forced integration).
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That was my thought Flop.
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https://twitter.com/The_TUC/status/1611028421882122241 Britain is reportedly passing anti-strike legistation.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/5/2023 4:44 PM
Probably in response to the paramedic strike
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That was my thought Flop.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/5/2023 4:44 PM
Yeah. Weird how they don’t specifically call it bad, but really like to draw a connotation to something bad even if I have no clue what point they’re actually making
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Yeah. Weird how they don’t specifically call it bad, but really like to draw a connotation to something bad even if I have no clue what point they’re actually making
It goes on... "The current situation in the United States and in Western Europe has nothing whatsoever to do with "free" immigration. It is forced integration, plain and simple, and forced integration is the predictable outcome of democratic one-man-one-vote rule. Abolishing forced integration requires the de-democratization of society and ultimately the abolition of democracy. "
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/5/2023 4:45 PM
eyebrowcat
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The whole book reads as a manual for a fascist variation of libertarianism... some kind of sick mirror universe version of anarchism.
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Referred to as Hoppean Libertarianism
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/5/2023 4:47 PM
So many words to say "I'm mad Hitler lost.".
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Just found some interesting fashy shit. From 'Democracy The God that Failed' by Hans Hermann Hoppe - Through nondiscrimination laws—one cannot discriminate against Germans, Jews, Blacks, Catholics, Hindus, homosexuals, etc.—the government will want to increase the physical access and entrance to everyone's property to everyone else. Thus, it is hardly surprising that the so-called "civil rights" legislation in the United States, which outlawed domestic discrimination on the basis of color, race, national origin, religion, gender, age, sexual orientation, disability, etc., and which thereby actually mandated forced integration, coincided with the adoption of a nondiscriminatory immigration policy; i.e., mandated international desegregation (forced integration).
What page?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
So many words to say "I'm mad Hitler lost.".
There are little hints at extreme racism too... like assumptions like Gypsies are bad... using the term Gypsy.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/5/2023 4:50 PM
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Do any of you know what page this is?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/5/2023 4:50 PM
I already knew this was going to be some shit with a title like "Democracy: The God that Failed". Sounds like a FOX News op ed. (edited)
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I'd recommend giving the book a read before giving assumptions
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/5/2023 4:53 PM
I think those paragraphs say everything I need to know about the contents.
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Likewise, I highly recommend you read "A libertarian walks into a bear" @Sarunas
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Likewise, I highly recommend you read "A libertarian walks into a bear" @Sarunas
Yeah I've done so
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Hoppe is apparently an ancap scholar at the Mises Institute and cites Murray Rothbard as his mentor, so, yeah.
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The situation in New Hampshire affects regions outside of the Libertarian town and even though the town is populated by lots of Libertarians, New Hampshire is by no means Libertarian or has a Libertarian government running it. It's unfair to discredit Libertarianism based on a region that isn't even Libertarian led and on an issue that affected several regions
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I think those paragraphs say everything I need to know about the contents.
As a person who has read it, it's far, far more than that.
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As a person who has read it, it's far, far more than that.
Yes... yes it is... you are absolutely right about that.
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Hoppe is apparently an ancap scholar at the Mises Institute and cites Murray Rothbard as his mentor, so, yeah.
Meh, even as a rightist I try to judge people more than just black and white
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Yes... yes it is... you are absolutely right about that.
Yup, it's shocking how far democracy can manipulate a nation
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A rightist... do please tell me more.
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You sound like you're in an rp channel lmao
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You sound like you're in an rp channel lmao
No no... I'm genuinely curious what you consider a "rightist" to be.
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Because I've never heard someone refer to themselves that way.
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And given my anthropology background I'm fascinated.
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Economically, I'm far right which means you believe in the means of production and distribution should be privatised without the government intervening, socially I'm centre-right which means you hold a more traditional view to social norms.
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Economically, I'm far right which means you believe in the means of production and distribution should be privatised without the government intervening, socially I'm centre-right which means you hold a more traditional view to social norms.
Define your acceptable traditional social norms.
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@floppunism [BOI, ID] What bit of that was confusing?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/5/2023 5:00 PM
Oh nothing
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Define your acceptable traditional social norms.
Frankly, I don't care much about social norms as long as they don't violate my rights, I'm only slightly to the right because it seems evident that the left are more dominant and laws are being made
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Economically, I'm far right which means you believe in the means of production and distribution should be privatised without the government intervening, socially I'm centre-right which means you hold a more traditional view to social norms.
so, um what are you doing here?
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I want to see the other side's point of view
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/5/2023 5:02 PM
Well first of all our only ideological unity among most of us is anti fascism
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really? so far you seem mostly to have been interested in telling us your point of view
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/5/2023 5:02 PM
You have a range of liberals to anarchists
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really? so far you seem mostly to have been interested in telling us your point of view
I mean, you guys asked me..
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I mean, you guys asked me..
Actually I was pointing out quotes from a text and you inserted yourself in defending it.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
You have a range of liberals to anarchists
Alright 👌
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Actually I was pointing out quotes from a text and you inserted yourself in defending it.
Well yeah, discussion is always best to try finding the best solution
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I mean, you guys asked me..
You didn't have anything to say here until you wanted to tell Spinner that he was reading the book wrong.
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You didn't have anything to say here until you wanted to tell Spinner that he was reading the book wrong.
I only just joined and this was the conversation happening at the time?
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I really don't see why you have such an issue with me joining in discussions
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I only just joined and this was the conversation happening at the time?
Did you not think someone would vet you? See what you were about?
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Did you not think someone would vet you? See what you were about?
I didn't expect that someone would be surprised that a rightist would want to try seeing the other side's point of view, that involves discussion
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I really don't see why you have such an issue with me joining in discussions
I have an issue with someone joining and immediately taking positions that seem to be diametrically opposed to the antifascist goals of this community. If your goal is to "learn more about the Iron Front's point of view", a good way to do that is be quiet for a while and listen to discussions
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Probably in response to the paramedic strike
BubsyFanboy 1/5/2023 5:06 PM
This is really insulting. First Poland not helping labor unions and instead passing laws to ban solidarity strikes and now this.
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I think you could have been more clear in your introduction that you were a fascist and wanted to see our perspective. Because frankly if you see us as "the other side", then you are self identifying as a fascist. And given that you identify yourself elsewhere as a Lithuanian Hoppean Libertarian, it didn't take long to find what that means.
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How did you know I was Lithuanian
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Oh wait u meant Libertarian nvm
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Sarunas
How did you know I was Lithuanian
You really need to learn to internet better.
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I have an issue with someone joining and immediately taking positions that seem to be diametrically opposed to the antifascist goals of this community. If your goal is to "learn more about the Iron Front's point of view", a good way to do that is be quiet for a while and listen to discussions
I think creating discussions is a far more productive way to see whether good ideas work
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Welcome to the Order! We make educational articles, learn more on the-order.uk
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You really need to learn to internet better.
Most people I meet don't check my connections lol, yeah that's my website and channel
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I think you could have been more clear in your introduction that you were a fascist and wanted to see our perspective. Because frankly if you see us as "the other side", then you are self identifying as a fascist. And given that you identify yourself elsewhere as a Lithuanian Hoppean Libertarian, it didn't take long to find what that means.
I'm a Voluntaryist, by no means a Fascist 💀
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I think creating discussions is a far more productive way to see whether good ideas work
I thought your objective was to "learn the point of view", not "to see whether good ideas work"
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I'm a Voluntaryist, by no means a Fascist 💀
I'd believe that if you didn't self identify with someone who suggests that groups of people should be allowed to force others to not live near them.
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I thought your objective was to "learn the point of view", not "to see whether good ideas work"
I want to learn the point of view in order to see if it'd be the preferable option for my goals
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I want to learn the point of view in order to see if it'd be the preferable option for my goals
Okay I'll bite. What are your goals?
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I'd believe that if you didn't self identify with someone who suggests that groups of people should be allowed to force others to not live near them.
Oh, yeah that's my bad. I used to believe in Hoppe but frankly, he's a bit too radical for me, I'll change that because it's outdated. I believe that our goal should be to maximise progress and knowledge, to strive for omniscience.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/5/2023 5:14 PM
i’m curious how you can be a capitalist yet be against coercion and force when that’s what capitalism relies upon to maintain class structure
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capitalism is inherently coercive, is it not?
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Oh, yeah that's my bad. I used to believe in Hoppe but frankly, he's a bit too radical for me, I'll change that because it's outdated. I believe that our goal should be to maximise progress and knowledge, to strive for omniscience.
And yet your first instinct was to defend Hoppe.
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And yet your first instinct was to defend Hoppe.
Yes, I think it's a bit odd seeing people judge him without proper context, nobody in the group had even read the book
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capitalism is inherently coercive, is it not?
Not necessarily
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/5/2023 5:15 PM
How?
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People decide how they spend their money and decide how they work, I don't really see any way it could be coercive
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Imagine thinking a model of distribution that withholds basic human needs from someone in order to force them to work, is not coercive.
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People decide how they spend their money and decide how they work, I don't really see any way it could be coercive
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/5/2023 5:17 PM
and if i don’t spend my money or work a poorly paying job i starve
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There is another economic model that uses that threat of death to coerce people into working.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/5/2023 5:17 PM
that sounds coercive tk me idk
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Sarunas
Yes, I think it's a bit odd seeing people judge him without proper context, nobody in the group had even read the book
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/5/2023 5:18 PM
Oh, I've read it. So far, it's nothing but simping for monarchy. The very thing Iron Front opposes.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Oh, I've read it. So far, it's nothing but simping for monarchy. The very thing Iron Front opposes.
You might have missed it, he backpedaled on the whole being a Hoppean... don't believe his counter suggesting he's a Voluntarian now... but he did. (edited)
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I mean, you may choose to force that person to give but that would be another form of coercion which frankly, I believe is worse. It's simple logic that if person A wants something from person B then person A should do something for person B, not that person B should be forced to give what he got to person A.
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I don't particularly care to judge the author, but I'm fine judging what he wrote that was quoted here, and there's unlikely to be any amount of context that would make it better.
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Sarunas
I mean, you may choose to force that person to give but that would be another form of coercion which frankly, I believe is worse. It's simple logic that if person A wants something from person B then person A should do something for person B, not that person B should be forced to give what he got to person A.
All predicated on private ownership of the production of basic human needs. Which will inevitably be used to coerce those without private ownership of those things into doing what those who do want them to.
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I mean, you may choose to force that person to give but that would be another form of coercion which frankly, I believe is worse. It's simple logic that if person A wants something from person B then person A should do something for person B, not that person B should be forced to give what he got to person A.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/5/2023 5:21 PM
Yet Person A may have to require Person B to do something for them in order to get what they require to live as they also need money to live (edited)
5:22 PM
Even if person A does want to simply give what they have to person B
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All predicated on private ownership of the production of basic human needs. Which will inevitably be used to coerce those without private ownership of those things into doing what those who do want them to.
Both parties are willing to lose something in that agreement, person A works while person B gives, if person B doesn't give enough then there's always person C, D, E, etc
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Yet Person A may have to require Person B to do something for them in order to get what they require to live as they also need money to live (edited)
So lets put this in anarchist terms... some do actually think that for a collective to accept a member that member must be capable of contributing to the collective. The difference is... Anarchists will find a way for someone to do it within their capacity even if they accept that flawed premise (which they don't always). This guy wants to set the burden on the individual who needs to survive to do something the other demands and if it's not something they can do without undue burden/stress/harm to themselves they die. (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Yet Person A may have to require Person B to do something for them in order to get what they require to live as they also need money to live (edited)
The worker may need the employer to work for them? I'm very sorry but could you repeat your point, I think I've misunderstood
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Sarunas
Both parties are willing to lose something in that agreement, person A works while person B gives, if person B doesn't give enough then there's always person C, D, E, etc
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/5/2023 5:25 PM
So in other words, person B is disposable.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
So in other words, person B is disposable.
Yup, always, because if B chooses not to, A can coerce someone else to do it.
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Who is the employer disposable to and how so?
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Sarunas
Who is the employer disposable to and how so?
You've mixed up A and B.
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I think you two mixed up person A and person B, person A is the worker
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You've mixed up A and B.
I'm the one who started this scenario 💀
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Yeah you are right, Flop switched them up by rewriting the scenario and you missed it.
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My bad
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The thing is about a free market, I know it's a misconception but harmful monopolies do not form in a free market. Employees will find better paying jobs, thus causing harmful companies to fail. This process is known as "Economic Darwinism" or the "Invisible Hand". I'll go more in depth tomorrow because it's late here and I've got to go to bed
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The thing is about a free market, I know it's a misconception but harmful monopolies do not form in a free market. Employees will find better paying jobs, thus causing harmful companies to fail. This process is known as "Economic Darwinism" or the "Invisible Hand". I'll go more in depth tomorrow because it's late here and I've got to go to bed
Whew boy... economic darwinism... next we'll be hearing about social darwinism. I think we're done here, I know one of us already blocked you, I think I'm next.
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What a great way of having a discussion
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You've already proven you aren't here to learn anything by spending all your time espousing your beliefs.
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But you asked me-
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I didn't. You inserted yourself into a discussion.
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I defended taking books out of context, you asked me about my political views
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To defend some weird extremist version of libertarian monarchism. Something I'm having a hard time wrapping my brain around. (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
that sounds coercive tk me idk
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5:34 PM
Welp, I joined to try having my mind changed but it’s evident that this server can’t even have a cordial discussion, nevermind convince a person
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/5/2023 5:35 PM
i’m not in the business of mind changing
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Then why even have a discussion?
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AvoidOblivion 1/5/2023 5:36 PM
I’m 18, meaning I have very little in the way of experience, especially compared to you all; but even I can see that “economic darwinism” is bullshit. Just wanted to get that out there. (edited)
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Welp, I joined to try having my mind changed but it’s evident that this server can’t even have a cordial discussion, nevermind convince a person
We're not here to convince anyone... you mistook this as a platform for debate... go to Twitter for that. The people here are working towards a goal. A goal which actually seeks to remove violent and coercive forces from the world.
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I’m 18, meaning I have very little in the way of experience, especially compared to you all; but even I can see that “economic darwinism” is bullshit. Just wanted to get that out there. (edited)
There are several terms to describe the term, I’m sorry but your point isn’t really an argument
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Sarunas
There are several terms to describe the term, I’m sorry but your point isn’t really an argument
Because that 18 year old told you there is no need to argue with something that fucking stupid.
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Sarunas
There are several terms to describe the term, I’m sorry but your point isn’t really an argument
AvoidOblivion 1/5/2023 5:38 PM
I didn't intend for it to be an argument.
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Frankly... the wisdom there is epic.
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We're not here to convince anyone... you mistook this as a platform for debate... go to Twitter for that. The people here are working towards a goal. A goal which actually seeks to remove violent and coercive forces from the world.
Why talk about politics if you’re already certain that you’re right and yet won’t share it with others?
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AvoidOblivion
I didn't intend for it to be an argument.
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Sarunas
Why talk about politics if you’re already certain that you’re right and yet won’t share it with others?
We talk about politics all the time, and methods... if you took time to read the posts here you'd see a lot of that... and you'd learn.
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Because that 18 year old told you there is no need to argue with something that fucking stupid.
Telling me that something is stupid really doesn’t change anything lmao
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We talk about politics all the time, and methods... if you took time to read the posts here you'd see a lot of that... and you'd learn.
I can’t really learn about the other side without discussion, reading an echo chamber in no way shows how your ideology solves the issues that are significant to me
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Sarunas
I can’t really learn about the other side without discussion, reading an echo chamber in no way shows how your ideology solves the issues that are significant to me
You are coming into our space, seeking to learn from us. We're not here so you can insert yourself and debate us. Find another place to troll. Or shut up and listen.
5:42 PM
You are contrary to your post in #general-chat not a god, and we don't owe you debate.
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Lmao, you call people with differing views trolls and somehow believe that people will ever take your views seriously without any discussion
5:43 PM
Good luck with that, it’s a shame that you hold such backwards views sheesh
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Sarunas
Lmao, you call people with differing views trolls and somehow believe that people will ever take your views seriously without any discussion
Backwards views... you don't even know what my views are because you refused to ask, read, or listen.
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I’m referring to the ones that I stated
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nod I'm sure you are... but that is simply not the sum total of me. Like your expectation that we should shut up and listen to your ideology may not be the sum total of you. But it's what we've seen. The difference is. I'm not coming into your discord and making myself your problem. You are coming here and making yourself our problem... and proving yourself a liar in the process. If you wanted to learn as you said you did, you'd have learned a lot more by listening than defending. (edited)
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AvoidOblivion 1/5/2023 5:51 PM
Looks like Order left.
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At least, I am not seeing the account. Could have missed it.
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Sarunas
Lmao, you call people with differing views trolls and somehow believe that people will ever take your views seriously without any discussion
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/5/2023 5:51 PM
When your view is "people should willingly submit to a tyrant because he'll totally handle finances better than you", it's not worth listening to.
5:52 PM
That is some "Mussolini made the trains run on time" bs. (edited)
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AvoidOblivion
At least, I am not seeing the account. Could have missed it.
AvoidOblivion 1/5/2023 5:52 PM
Nevermind. I am wrong. Order is still here.
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nod I'm sure you are... but that is simply not the sum total of me. Like your expectation that we should shut up and listen to your ideology may not be the sum total of you. But it's what we've seen. The difference is. I'm not coming into your discord and making myself your problem. You are coming here and making yourself our problem... and proving yourself a liar in the process. If you wanted to learn as you said you did, you'd have learned a lot more by listening than defending. (edited)
Frankly, it’s a shame that people see it as such a problem to have their views challenged. I provided my points when people brought them up so we can discuss where I may be correct and wrong, it’s a horrible way of learning if only one side gets a say lmao
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
When your view is "people should willingly submit to a tyrant because he'll totally handle finances better than you", it's not worth listening to.
What?
5:56 PM
I said that people can’t expect to get something from someone for free, they’re of course going to do something in exchange, that’s just basic human co-operation
5:57 PM
However, is Spinner correct? Do you all agree that this server is unable to discuss views in a cordial manner?
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AvoidOblivion 1/5/2023 5:57 PM
For one, I want to hear the opinions and views brought by other people who have differing views from me. IF is not aligned with any particular political side, other than that of anti-authoritarianism in any form. But if you become combative and offended easily, that is more your problem.
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Oh yeah of course, there’s no point debating with somebody gets offended very easily
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AvoidOblivion 1/5/2023 5:58 PM
I have only been here, what, four days? I have already seen several people come and leave because they were unable to get along. I want to hear from other people. Views have been discussed both cordially and not. This is leaning to the "not so much" side of things.
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It just seems very odd to me that I’m somehow a nuisance for bringing up that context is needed, I’ll stay for a few more days to see if anybody else can share their views because I genuinely want to see the other side and discuss with them instead of just staying in an echo chamber
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Sarunas
It just seems very odd to me that I’m somehow a nuisance for bringing up that context is needed, I’ll stay for a few more days to see if anybody else can share their views because I genuinely want to see the other side and discuss with them instead of just staying in an echo chamber
The first person to block you is the one who read the most of that book. That should tell you something.
6:01 PM
It didn't get better with context.
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If the person that read the book can’t even discuss it and needs to block me, it really shows how they are as a person (edited)
6:02 PM
Like I understand if they’d rather not talk about it but blocking somebody is a bit too far imo lmao
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Sarunas
If the person that read the book can’t even discuss it and needs to block me, it really shows how they are as a person (edited)
Well great way to make friends with someone who's an established member of the group you wish to learn from.
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I can’t make friends or learn from somebody that blocked me 🤨
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Yeah, because they decided you weren't worth the time, both because of that book, and your attitude in here. It wasn't done in a vacuum. You contributed directly to it.
6:04 PM
Oh didn't you mention actions have consequences at some point?
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I don’t see what your point is lol
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Or something to that effect.
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Sarunas
I don’t see what your point is lol
Hard for a god to see the point of mere mortals. I get it. The world revolves around you, and everyone's reaction to you is just a display of their own character, not something you had any hand in.
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It’s my fault for getting blocked due to wanting to discuss views because somehow you’re telling me that a great way of making friends and wanting to learn is by reading an echo chamber
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Hard for a god to see the point of mere mortals. I get it. The world revolves around you, and everyone's reaction to you is just a display of their own character, not something you had any hand in.
Uhhh, thanks??
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Sarunas
Uhhh, thanks??
Don't mention it.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
When your view is "people should willingly submit to a tyrant because he'll totally handle finances better than you", it's not worth listening to.
???
6:52 PM
The libertarian guy that was banned yesterday did not seem like a troll beyond potentially his username (edited)
6:56 PM
People described conservative viewpoints and ascribed them to libertarianism, the guy replies "You guys don't know what actual libertarians are" and that was the last thing before he was banned
6:57 PM
I wanted to say something but I was afraid of getting banned myself
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Cuz you guys were basically just describing conservative views and conservatives LARPing as libertarians Except for like banning governments from implementing restrictions for COVID like lockdowns... That is a real libertarian view that someone brought up (edited)
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He's not been banned, he was blocked by a few people.
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No, he was banned
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Yesterday
7:04 PM
I'm not talking about @ Order
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Dude was a troll, regardless of his beliefs he was disruptive and only disruptive.
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I wanted to say something but I was afraid of getting banned myself
You are not intentionally insulting people here. That individual was.
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knuckles
No, he was banned
There were multiple libertarian trolls banned yesterday. Are you talking about guy from Mass or urmomisfat?
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Yeah I think he was mostly just banned for being insulting, not ideology but I can't remember to be honest.
7:12 PM
It's ok for us to have a political discussion, and although I really have trouble imagining a libertarian feeling particularly at home here I'm happy to listen. But the folks coming in and trolling are doing it in a very insulting and argument-forward way
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Yeah I think he was mostly just banned for being insulting, not ideology but I can't remember to be honest.
It kinda got all lumped together in my mind, but regardless their end of that conversation just sorta fit with their user name... which itself is a trolling effort.
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Yeah totally. If your first action in a new server is to insult or offend everyone there, you're a troll. It's practically the definition
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Yeah totally. If your first action in a new server is to insult or offend everyone there, you're a troll. It's practically the definition
And to be so lazy about it to make it your user name is kinda extra.
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MisterStompy 1/5/2023 7:14 PM
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Also as someone who's known my fair share of libertarians it's also generally a mark of the more fake/fashy ones. They just immediately come into any conversation with the intent of starting an argument and insulting everyone.
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🤣 can't believe I'm getting tired of winning, but there. I said it. I'm tired of winning.
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But also this is very bad for our democracy
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10 10 VOTES
7:16 PM
Well yes. This just proves one party is absolutely fucked
7:16 PM
But as long as they don't have a speaker, shit can't get ruined by them
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🤣 can't believe I'm getting tired of winning, but there. I said it. I'm tired of winning.
AvoidOblivion 1/5/2023 7:19 PM
I am both: I want it to be over and for a new Speaker to be chosen (Jeffries), but I do love seeing McCarthy lose.
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I swear to God if Jeffries does get it, then that's a double slap in the face to the GOP over the midterm
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AvoidOblivion 1/5/2023 7:28 PM
The "Red Wave" broke about a mile out at sea at maximum height of roughly 2 feet.
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Gop: (BARELY) wins the house but loses the senate, tries to put a republican speaker of the house The house votes: Predominantly Jeffries (a democrat) in the lead 10 fucking times House GOP:
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It's a pretty clear indicator of the state of the party to be sure. a half dozen assholes willing to destroy it all. It's probably intentional tbh.
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If it makes the gop go the way of the Whigs, I'm here for it
7:45 PM
However we still uncomfortably close to a civil war
7:45 PM
The parallel is uncanny tho
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They know by now the only way they can win control of the government is by force. This is absolutely evidence of it. The question is, will they have enough governors to support them. They certainly have enough mayors and other state officials in place... but they need state NG units in addition to their brownshirts.
7:47 PM
How many governors will be willing to take that final step? And for Trump of all people.
7:48 PM
Texas and Florida maybe... I don't know about the others.
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Which I remind you, this midterm broke a LOT of records for dem governor
7:56 PM
And that's not factoring how many would be fascist got kicked out of the military these past couple of years
7:57 PM
McCarthy was able to undo the covid Vax requirement but not until at least 3 years past
7:59 PM
that's a lot of discharges.
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Not saying they won't try shit. But it became considerably more harder
8:00 PM
Fuck, if MTG is the SCOTUS bomber like some rumors propose, shits gonna get real ugly real quick on the GOP side
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/5/2023 8:32 PM
NEW: McCarthy loses an ELEVENTH round. Jeffries- (D) 212 (again) McCarthy- (R) 200 (again) Donalds- (R) 12 Hern- (R) 7 Trump- (R) 1 Present- 1 They’re now voting on whether or not to adjourn until tomorrow.
8:32 PM
If McCarthy were a TV show, he would definitely be "The Biggest Loser".
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
If McCarthy were a TV show, he would definitely be "The Biggest Loser".
At least "Most consistent loser."
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at the rate they're going, if we get a year in and STILL no speaker of the house, do we the citizens get to reenact the forced election of Pope Gregory X?
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at the rate they're going, if we get a year in and STILL no speaker of the house, do we the citizens get to reenact the forced election of Pope Gregory X?
It's possible that one caucus or another can select a non-congress member that might get some members of the other side to switch. The Speaker doesn't have to be a congressperson.
12:13 AM
So Dems might select some well known moderate independent and back them fully at which point some GOP would switch and break the stalemate.
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I think that's what Gaetz was trying to do, but it only got between 1 to 7 votes with Trump but a moderate is also potentially likely. If Jeffries doesn't get it mind you
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also
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for non-catholics or non-history nerds, the Death of Pope Clemente IV lead to a massive in-fighting in the catholic church over who should be the next pope. Basically it was divided into three different fractions, a Pro-French, Pro-Holy Roman Empire, and Pro-italian camp. Well this infighting was so bad that the citizens of the town of Viterbo (where the College of Cardinals were having the vote because Clemente IV died there) were getting pissed as fuck. You see, without a Pope, certain religious rites can't be performed. Add in the fact the Cardinals were eating the people of Viterbo out of house and home for two fucking years So, the people of Viterbo literally locked them inside the house they were having the vote discussions/politiking in, tore the roof off and only fed them water and bread. It took them a fucking year still to decide.
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for non-catholics or non-history nerds, the Death of Pope Clemente IV lead to a massive in-fighting in the catholic church over who should be the next pope. Basically it was divided into three different fractions, a Pro-French, Pro-Holy Roman Empire, and Pro-italian camp. Well this infighting was so bad that the citizens of the town of Viterbo (where the College of Cardinals were having the vote because Clemente IV died there) were getting pissed as fuck. You see, without a Pope, certain religious rites can't be performed. Add in the fact the Cardinals were eating the people of Viterbo out of house and home for two fucking years So, the people of Viterbo literally locked them inside the house they were having the vote discussions/politiking in, tore the roof off and only fed them water and bread. It took them a fucking year still to decide.
While I appreciate the actions... nope, it would take ANOTHER Jan 6th which would have to be armed, and would be slaughtered.
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I think that's what Gaetz was trying to do, but it only got between 1 to 7 votes with Trump but a moderate is also potentially likely. If Jeffries doesn't get it mind you
In the case of Rapey McForehead, his pushing trump is the stalemate action... not an attempt to break it.
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And It would take some serious bribing from oligarchs (I mean lobbyists) to get 6 GOP to swap to support Jefferies. Whereas finding a moderate Republican or Independent put up by Dems could get through relatively cheaply.
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Mass former governor prob be a decent mod republican
12:32 AM
pro-abortion at least
12:34 AM
although a Independent or a moderate democrat would be considerably better
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although a Independent or a moderate democrat would be considerably better
Voting for any dem even moderate would be a career ender for a GOP member right now.
12:39 AM
Has to be a Republican or GOP leaning Independent.
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or pull a Santos, have a fake GOPer, only to switch parties once they get in, Sinema style
12:57 AM
it be a dick movie, but dems need to be dicks sometimes
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it be a dick movie, but dems need to be dicks sometimes
They are incapable of being dicks to anyone but their constituents.
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They can absolutely go to court to justify rigging the primary to fuck over the voters... but they couldn't dirty deal with GOP to save their souls.
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or, they hold out given they are FINALLY unified for once
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or, they hold out given they are FINALLY unified for once
Right now in absence of a better choice that can get GOP members to switch... that's their best option. I think given so far, they know it.
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I doubt they are even looking for another option.
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I only present it because if I were them it's what I would do. But they routinely make the stupid choice... so... obviously I'm not a good metric.
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tbh I suspect they're trying to force the moderates Repubs to vote for a dem speaker, both as a way of splitting the party, but also as a bit of a FU for the midterm house lose
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tbh I suspect they're trying to force the moderates Repubs to vote for a dem speaker, both as a way of splitting the party, but also as a bit of a FU for the midterm house lose
I agree, that's why it's in their best interest barring an alternative candidate to propose to do so. I'm shocked there has been this much unity on it so far.
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Not just unity but fucking glee
1:04 AM
they are cockholding the GOP pretty much politically
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Cuckholding, or cockblocking?
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yes
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Heh.
1:05 AM
It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. Because for damn sure ain't none of us gonna make it go one way or another.
1:05 AM
That said... the longer it goes on... the more likely a bomb or a gunman shows up with a fash manifesto attached.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/6/2023 1:06 AM
Man I am not looking forward to tomorrow.
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We should start hearing grumblings of Jan6 2.0 here soon.
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Would be a damn good psyop to create a fake GQP account to get #162.0 trending actually.
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The ruling by South Carolina's highest court comes more than six months after the U.S. Supreme Court voided the federal right to abortion.
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SC: Not today Satan
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That's gonna piss some folks off.
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good
2:07 AM
I need more tears for my morning coffee
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Gaetz has so much confidence in his assertion that Democrats will never aid Kevin McCarthy’s bid for the speakership that he threatened to resign if it came to pass.
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There goes Rapey McForehead making promises he won't keep.
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You mean US website Wikipedia?
5:47 AM
And aren't the Saudis military not in a good place rn and dependent on US military?
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And aren't the Saudis military not in a good place rn and dependent on US military?
Against China sure... Against anyone else in the middle east, naw they good.
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The threat of withdrawal is still a good one tho
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Shit they own half of the US Oligarchs... they don't need to worry about it.
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Also they're not doing too well againt Yemen. Especially with Yemen damming their river to fuck Egypt over
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Also Iran
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Iran/Saudi relations are....poor
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Also Iran
Iran ain't no threat while they are fighting a civil war in their own country. Saudi can blow the dam with a single air strike.
6:03 AM
SA has more or less every advanced piece of military equipment we have with the exception of F-35s at this point.
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And risk polluting their own river even more? Because that's what going on in Egypt rn. The war, two dams (one in Yemen, the other in Ethiopia), a extremely bad case of the climate change and pollution from their aggressive modernization is laying the groundwork for a potential famine in the future.
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Their influence is bad regardless But Egypt has problems creeping up and fast
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And risk polluting their own river even more? Because that's what going on in Egypt rn. The war, two dams (one in Yemen, the other in Ethiopia), a extremely bad case of the climate change and pollution from their aggressive modernization is laying the groundwork for a potential famine in the future.
As if the Saudi Royal Family gives a damn about the people... they aren't building that massive eco city for their people... they are building it for their wealthy.
6:08 AM
It's actually at this point in their best interest to have less population in SA.
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Ah so repeating the mistakes of the Tsarist Russia then?
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Aces high
Ah so repeating the mistakes of the Tsarist Russia then?
Monarchies being monarchies.
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Welp...we could also cut the water to them too
6:10 AM
They buy water from states (Arizona in particular)
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With automation (and SA funding a lot of research in it) and recycling technology (also something they've been dumping massive cash into), and renewable energy and energy storage (also them leading the way on that through multinational partnerships). They are going to have a utopia for their elite. Literally a modern incarnation of an Ayn Rand novel.
6:11 AM
Only robots take the place of the peasantry.
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Until the A.I. starts becoming sentient
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Easy prevention to that. Never give it enough RAM and hard drive space to do it.
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And then viruses become a issue
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Or file corruption
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Really lots of shit can go wrong with automation
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Especially in the replace the servents kind
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CAN, but also all of it can be expected and prepared to deal with.
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We have people who learned to hack cars to intentionally try to kill people
6:13 AM
This is WITH precautions in place
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Aces high
We have people who learned to hack cars to intentionally try to kill people
Wireless connections are breach points you don't need with programmed AI.
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I worked on the Nuro bot... it has a remote control system, but that won't let you change the programmed AI database... that has to be updated by hard drive swap.
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Fair enough
6:16 AM
But then what if the hard drive gets compromised by external factors Machine servents get repairs, updates etc, etc. All are potential points of breach
6:16 AM
Even if there is a extra step
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That's assuming said would be utopia doesn't end with them ripping each other apart like Rapture
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They murder people in the street for smoking in public during Ramadan... you think security is a problem for them?
6:17 AM
Oh do I think their experiment will succeed, no. Do I think they believe they are untouchable, yes.
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For their citizens? No. For their rivals? Potentially yes.
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Aces high
For their citizens? No. For their rivals? Potentially yes.
Once they move into their strip mall city Big Brother will look like a babysitter who fucks her boyfriend while the kid plays video games.
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Well yeah...until something breaks Because it inevitably does
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Rivals would have a fun time operating covertly in a zero privacy city.
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Like I said... I don't think it will work. But I firmly believe they believe it will.
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And they have the money, and own enough people world wide to back that up.
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At least to some degree.
6:21 AM
What's worse that a monarchist? A Capitalist. What's worse than that? A Monarchist Capitalist.
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Alright, but utopia is a fundamental impossibility. Even for greedy rich bastards. ESPECIALLY for greedy rich bastards They will inevitably either eat themselves (possibly literally, Donner party style IF ANYTHING happens to their supply line) or it runs headfirst into something that can and WILL break it.
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No argument there. But it's a long way off, and will involve a WHOLE LOT of death of innocent and rivals alike before it happens.
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Hell a rival COULD cripple them just but fucking with a basic supply line
6:26 AM
covid showed this for a lot of countries
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They might be the most powerful family on earth, and they certainly have the arrogance to go with it... but they aren't stupid, and they don't make wild mistakes like Putin or Xi does by not listening to people who give them advice.
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Yet
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Hell a rival COULD cripple them just but fucking with a basic supply line
Which rival? US isn't ever going to embargo them. China won't either.
6:27 AM
Iran doesn't give them shit. Egypt doesn't give them enough to matter. Israel is sucking their dick.
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Provided I'm in the school of thought that Putin did get covid and it ramped up his paranoia
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EU is sucking their dick just like US is.
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Tbh, they might not have true rivals yet
6:28 AM
Give it time
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Provided I'm in the school of thought that Putin did get covid and it ramped up his paranoia
It's plausible, but he's always had his sights on being a Tsar even when he was a KGB section chief.
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Especially with the middle east. It's like the OTHER baltics.
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Give it time
Won't be our problem by then, we'll have collapsed.
6:29 AM
We'll have more immediate things to worry about.
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For that matter so to will likely all the other Middle Eastern nations.
6:30 AM
Pretty sure that's their goal. To take over by default.
6:31 AM
No one is taking climate change more seriously than the Saudi Royal Family... and no one is spending more money to ensure no one else does take it seriously like them.
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Looks at CA making its own insulin and possibly more medical stuff to support people in its state as well as solar and wind power installations for Germany rebuilding its military power again(God dammit Putin) and adjusting its policy to aggressive self sufficiency power wise Eh, a civil war maybe stateside. Can't guarantee Europe tho.
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Looks at CA making its own insulin and possibly more medical stuff to support people in its state as well as solar and wind power installations for Germany rebuilding its military power again(God dammit Putin) and adjusting its policy to aggressive self sufficiency power wise Eh, a civil war maybe stateside. Can't guarantee Europe tho.
Even if we don't get a civil war... our food production will decrease by 75% by 2050.
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People will be starving... and when people starve... you'll wish it was a civil war.
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Over 100 million people will be displaced because of the inability to survive summers where they live.
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We are NOT taking climate change seriously. We COULD mitigate ALL of the effects over the next twenty years. But we won't.
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The average daytime high (not high high) in Phoenix will be over 125F... which means the hottest days of the year will be over 135F. Some estimates place the average daytime highs at over 145F. (edited)
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People will die in minutes outside.
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Electrical grids will fail long before that keeping up with AC demands. They are failing already even in California. (edited)
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Southern California won't be much better off at about 7 and 10 less respectively. (edited)
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Side note: This is from NOAA's mild change forecast. The one most optimistic.
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People think border crossings are a problem now. Wait till millions of people a day come over from Mexico because northern Mexico is going to be worse off than us. Even if we accept them, we won't be able to feed them because the dust bowl era will look like a mid summer drought.
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Our greenbelt will run from western Montana to North Carolina, skipping more or less ALL our major agriculture areas currently... south of that line will be MASSIVE spring flooding with zero summer precipitation.
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Again... this is the most optimistic projection.
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So Maybe states like CA invest enough money in infrastructure to support their population... guess what happened in the dust bowl... everyone moved to California. What's a 50 million refugee population increase there look like? They won't spend money to house the homeless they have now... what about when temps in LA go above 120F?
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The system we have simply cannot cope with radical changes like those. Even if that was all that was at play It will break. But then add to that the radical right trying to accelerate a civil war. And further developing a culture of fear/violence in everyone nationwide. Which takes everyone's focus away from solving the problems related to climate change as a side effect. (edited)
6:49 AM
Capitalism of any stripe simply cannot provide the infrastructure we need to survive it. Too many people siphoning off the surplus of labor which should be being spent on the things that we need to counteract it.
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And we won't be giving up capitalism on a national level till it kills us... by the millions.
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Fuck how many people has Covid killed and we couldn't provide a tenth of what people needed to survive it in rent alone for a single year.
6:53 AM
By the time people in charge think "Oh shit we better do something before another 10% of our population dies!" It'll be too fucking late.
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Now you might begin to see why I advocate and devote my entire life (outside of working to survive) to building and trying to get others to build autonomous collectives of about 10-20 people, but that can support over 100 off their production. We can build those for about the price of a single family home through collective non-profit effort... and each one can provide at least sustenance for 10 times their residence number. Maybe even find a way to shelter them in person from the elements over time. Neither the government, nor the capitalists are going to lift a finger to do even that much. (edited)
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vitaminWee 1/6/2023 9:30 AM
“Rights Groups Allege” Saudi’s Infiltrated Wikipedia is more how these headlines should introduce this, I realize after reading a few. https://www.theweek.in/news/world/2023/01/06/saudi-arabia-infiltrated-wikipedia-and-this-is-how-they-did-it.html (edited)
It also imprisoned two for contributing 'critical' information about the country
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/6/2023 9:35 AM
HUH
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/6/2023 12:24 PM
HAH
12:24 PM
good riddance
12:24 PM
never play with fire
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HAH
MisterStompy 1/6/2023 12:27 PM
You know the funny thing is if they hired immigrants to do it, it probably would have gone without a hitch.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/6/2023 12:36 PM
PFFT
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This wasn't Brian Kilmeade's first rebuke of right-wing GOP holdouts — on Tuesday, the "Fox & Friends" host called those representatives "idiots."
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President Biden has announced the U.S. will begin blocking migrants from Haiti, Nicaragua and Cuba from applying for asylum if they're apprehended crossing the U.S.-Mexico border. The asylum seekers will instead be expelled to Mexico without due process. https://t.co/D8qHQyTNBW
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Because Asylum seekers are perfectly safe in their home countries and can get financial backers in the US from there... you know, without being murdered by the government or criminals they seek asylum from. (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/6/2023 5:23 PM
Well, it wouldn't be the Dems if they didn't shoot themselves in the feet with another brainless policy the second they make any progress.
5:24 PM
What choices we have! Incompetent clowns or actual fascists!
5:24 PM
God I hate the two party system.
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The never-ending House speaker vote has further divided Republicans, but it has also exposed a giant rift within Fox News, with Tucker openly calling one colleague a “moron.”
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Just a question for the members: would your ideology maximise progress and knowledge? If so, how?
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Just a question for the members: would your ideology maximise progress and knowledge? If so, how?
In order to maximize progress and knowledge, it must ultimately meet ALL basic human needs first. Because it's been scientifically proven that people who experience anxiety or fear over where their next basic needs come from are less able to participate in critical thinking/reasoning than THEY would be without those anxieties. So all basic human needs would have to be assured to all first, in order to ensure that all human beings could participate at their best in pursuing knowledge and advancement. So to that end I would say my ideology (egalitarianism/anarchism/free socialism) does maximize progress and knowledge by allowing people, freedom of voluntary association, freedom from fear of not having basic needs met, and by encouraging people to think outside the box to resolve problems they face collectively and individually. (edited)
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I don't care if my ideology maximizes progress and knowledge. I want it to maximize happiness and peace. But I'd agree with spinner that egalitarian societies are generally speaking likely to see lots of progress. We see this in corporate microcosms-- companies with more equitable policies are typically more creative and productive.
8:37 PM
I'd argue that knowledge and progress can be bad things if pursued without a good handle on perspective and consequences. Look at what our "progress" has handed us in the form of environmental destruction. Maybe we shouldn't have maximized quite so hard.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/6/2023 8:40 PM
Stop engaging the troll, guys.
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In the end, "progress" is a useless term unless you define what is progressing. Are we making progress on equality? On the ability of individuals to determine their own future? On our ability to feed everyone? On the ability for a person to walk alone safely at night? On the ability for a child to feel safe and secure within their family and neighborhood? All those can be progress, but some people ignore those benchmarks and chase progress in the form of accumulating capital for no reason. Or accumulating pretty but ultimately useless things. Or accumulating power for the sake of it.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Stop engaging the troll, guys.
Eh, they're asking a legitimate, if poorly worded and silly question. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt until they start being rude.
8:43 PM
But I agree it's a troll-like question in that it's asked in the way that you know he has a "right" answer in mind and he's just waiting eagerly to jump all over our "wrong" answers
8:48 PM
I'd encourage him to consider whether operating in such a way might reflect a lack of introspection on his part. I've changed my views before when encountering new information that challenged my old views. I go into environments ready to learn and try to understand others' point of view. I wonder if he's got the guts to do the same? Or is he going to cling to his weirdly conservative views even in the face of contrary information because he's too weak and insecure to admit he was wrong?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/6/2023 8:50 PM
his youtube channel says he wishes for humanity to achieve omniscience so i think this guy's on a bit of a soul-searching journey
8:50 PM
albeit an... interesting one
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Best of luck to him. I hope it's a real journey and not one of those "made up my mind beforehand and now I'm just running around trying to justify it" ones
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8:52 PM
But also we're not actually really a server for forming your political opinions, we are a place for people who have a pretty firm grasp on their stance who want to take action. So I'm not really sure he's going to find what he's looking for here.
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8:53 PM
Not that I'm against talking about politics, it's always fun to hear what everyone's theoretical bases are. But the point is most of us generally agree on the larger points
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Stop engaging the troll, guys.
@Aces high asked me to be a little nicer. So I'm trying.
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Spinner
@Aces high asked me to be a little nicer. So I'm trying.
Remind me never to make you really mad 🤣
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OkraMonk
Remind me never to make you really mad 🤣
Remember that my default happy place from 15-18 was picking fights with Neos aged 18-25. (edited)
8:55 PM
I'm MUCH nicer now.
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Man did we have opposite trajectories. I was full on peace and love eco hippie in high school and just got more angry from there
8:58 PM
Probably because no one listened and the eco situation just kept getting worse
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Man did we have opposite trajectories. I was full on peace and love eco hippie in high school and just got more angry from there
Probably difference of childhood location/circumstance. I grew up in poor neighborhoods in LA as usually the only white kid... so I was the focus of all the people around me's rage towards white folks... but apparently I was pretty enough for them to talk to me more often than beat on me. So I learned pretty quickly what kind of white folks needed the beatings.
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Probably because no one listened and the eco situation just kept getting worse
It really did.
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Yeah I grew up in sheltered white suburbia and my parents were also hippies so that's what I gravitated towards. Moved to the city and witnessed more diversity and also racism, plus the complete failure to act on climate change, and then I had a kid and now I'm just constantly raging trying to get him a slightly better world than he's gonna inherit if things keep going the way they are
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Yeah I grew up in sheltered white suburbia and my parents were also hippies so that's what I gravitated towards. Moved to the city and witnessed more diversity and also racism, plus the complete failure to act on climate change, and then I had a kid and now I'm just constantly raging trying to get him a slightly better world than he's gonna inherit if things keep going the way they are
Felt. So much that I didn't have kids of my own. Just sorta adopted folks younger than me who didn't really have their own father figure to help them earlier.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/6/2023 9:07 PM
For me, it's been a slow burn of getting progressively angrier at the right.
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Yeah. Same. Although I'll also say the pandemic really accelerated that for me
9:09 PM
Nothing like watching the conservatives gleefully chuckling about people dying while denying us basic protection measures because of who we voted for.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/6/2023 9:09 PM
I grew up in a similar way, near-rich kid in a 94% white (wish i was exaggerating) suburbia. I almost fell to the alt-right but my sister managed to pull me out of it, she's an awesome person.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/6/2023 9:11 PM
Normally, I tried to keep my head out of politics since my general view was that they all sucked (which I still somewhat believe).
9:11 PM
Then Trump split my family in half.
9:12 PM
Seeing people you know and love lapping up the blatant lies of a racist wannabe tyrant is... disheartening, to say the least. (edited)
9:14 PM
But one by one, they eventually came off it. Not all of them did, but it still gave me hope that maybe we can change these peoples minds.
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Then the Club Q shooting happened and I saw the right's response to that.
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Now I have nothing but hate and scorn for them and anyone who follows them.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Now I have nothing but hate and scorn for them and anyone who follows them.
I hope you find a path to where I am with that. That it is a sad truth that they are manipulated pawns of others and the harm their actions will bring in service to others will necessitate their being stopped at all costs... it's sad, but it's like killing a rabid dog... it has to be done, you do it quickly and you resolve to stop those who are manipulating them as fast as possible.
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I hope you find a path to where I am with that. That it is a sad truth that they are manipulated pawns of others and the harm their actions will bring in service to others will necessitate their being stopped at all costs... it's sad, but it's like killing a rabid dog... it has to be done, you do it quickly and you resolve to stop those who are manipulating them as fast as possible.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/6/2023 9:27 PM
If I could magically convince all of the rightoids of the harm their actions cause without killing them, I would. Until then, my Glock remains ready.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
If I could magically convince all of the rightoids of the harm their actions cause without killing them, I would. Until then, my Glock remains ready.
If it comes to it, just remember what I said and make it quick. You'll thank yourself ten years down the line.
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If it comes to it, just remember what I said and make it quick. You'll thank yourself ten years down the line.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/6/2023 9:36 PM
Oh, I will. Drawing it out just gives them more ammo to use against us.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/6/2023 10:18 PM
Authorities already had planned to highlight the attacks — then came word of yet another shooting with a political target.
10:19 PM
Welcome to The Troubles, lads.
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Alright how long til someone shoots back
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Aces high
Alright how long til someone shoots back
About the time they start to realize that the police aren't actively doing anything about it.
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So anywhere between a month to a year
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Aces high
So anywhere between a month to a year
Yeah... probably. Two or three of them will need to actually be shot. People are SO loath to shatter the illusion of civilization that they will hold out till quite a few die.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/6/2023 10:32 PM
I imagine it’s a police investigation similar to the Trump taxes one; They said it was ongoing but it only started the day someone asked for details.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
I imagine it’s a police investigation similar to the Trump taxes one; They said it was ongoing but it only started the day someone asked for details.
I doubt even that... these departments are literally filled with family of or the actual fascists themselves.
10:37 PM
They actively use tokenism to distract from that fact. POC officers are chosen for leadership positions from only the MOST loyal most fascist POC officers... they actively block investigations of subordinate white officers for hate crime related abuse of authority incidents. They cover their asses better than anyone did for Trump.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/6/2023 10:38 PM
How easily people forget that there were Jews who aided the Holocaust and Nazi Germany. (edited)
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How easily people forget that there were Jews who aided the Holocaust and Nazi Germany. (edited)
Fascism is good at turning people against their own communities.
10:43 PM
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/6/2023 10:43 PM
Where's that Nietzsche quote?
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so a Ron DeSatan fuck boi tried to crash Newsom's inauguration with a DeSantis for pres sign Idiot got kicked down from his stool and his sign got ripped out of his hands and thrown to the floor and broken Idiot is lucky nobody decided to deliver a good punch to his gut. It was wide open while he held up that sign
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Fucking DeSantis, I lived in Florida before college
10:47 PM
The amount of support he has down there is lowkey scary
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agreeded
10:50 PM
but it was absolutely hilarious seeing two random dudes fucking literally knock this jackass down a peg
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/6/2023 11:01 PM
it's a satire account
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Aces high
but it was absolutely hilarious seeing two random dudes fucking literally knock this jackass down a peg
I’d love to see it, is there a video
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
it's a satire account
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/6/2023 11:04 PM
I thought so but it IS TikTok.
11:05 PM
The stupidity on there makes Reddit look reasonable.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
The stupidity on there makes Reddit look reasonable.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/6/2023 11:06 PM
they make 4chan look like fucking intelectuals
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/6/2023 11:07 PM
they're actually kinda funny sometimes lmao
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/6/2023 11:08 PM
Fair
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/6/2023 11:14 PM
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this shit is funny you can’t tell me otherwise
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/6/2023 11:17 PM
I'm just.....numb to this type of shock humor now
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AvoidOblivion 1/6/2023 11:17 PM
The genuinely sad part is that I know people who legitimately believe things like that. They are not smart people, nor are they some I talk to, but there are those who believe this garbage.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/6/2023 11:18 PM
HUH
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The genuinely sad part is that I know people who legitimately believe things like that. They are not smart people, nor are they some I talk to, but there are those who believe this garbage.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/6/2023 11:18 PM
was about to say stuff like that but yeah, my point
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i beleave its an extreme vocal minority
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And Kevin McCarthy is STILL not the speaker Also nearly threw hands with Matt Gaetz
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/6/2023 11:18 PM
but that minority can always grow
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AvoidOblivion 1/6/2023 11:18 PM
Very extreme minority, very vocal.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/6/2023 11:19 PM
yes
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/6/2023 11:19 PM
i like to believe those people are former 4chan trolls who became leftists and don't dwell on it any further
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AvoidOblivion 1/6/2023 11:20 PM
They still carry the same vitriol and misery, but now directed at a different enemy.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/6/2023 11:20 PM
yyyep
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/6/2023 11:20 PM
these people are the reason the republicans got such a strong foothold in american society
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they are THAT vocal
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and that stupid
11:21 PM
they can be used as propaganda
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/6/2023 11:21 PM
flashbacks to 2016 SJW vs. logic videos
11:21 PM
oh, yeah
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/6/2023 11:21 PM
would not be surprised if it was a fucking republican psyop
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flashbacks to 2016 SJW vs. logic videos
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/6/2023 11:21 PM
huh, forgot about those, wonder if they still hold up(probably not)
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these people are the reason the republicans got such a strong foothold in american society
AvoidOblivion 1/6/2023 11:21 PM
FUCKS News could easily use posts like that as a base for claiming the extremism of the entire left.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/6/2023 11:22 PM
i'm so embarassed with how those sucked me in
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i was such a young idiot i literally nodded along with a lot of the "SJW" talking points until I realized they were the "bad guy"
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flashbacks to 2016 SJW vs. logic videos
AvoidOblivion 1/6/2023 11:23 PM
I will admit, I watched those when I was around 12/13 years old. I was still developing my world views, and was looking for something to follow. Luckily, my brother told me who Ben Shapiro actually is and I quickly stopped.
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MisterStompy 1/6/2023 11:23 PM
HANDS ARE THROWN! Gaetz triggers GOP infighting but this time with actual hands and a physical altercation from a few GOP members. [The 14th Round] #SpeakerVote #McCarthy #HouseofRepresentatives
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
i'm so embarassed with how those sucked me in
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/6/2023 11:23 PM
It was a different time, and hey, I would have second thoughts if I knew the president could be the ugly tempted to say the b word in the statue of happiness in gta IV
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/6/2023 11:23 PM
i got sucked in and was alt-light for a while. Luckily I managed to get away from it when my go-to video creator went on a hiatus
11:23 PM
HOLY SHIT WHAT
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MisterStompy 1/6/2023 11:25 PM
It's old people fighting but it's fighting lol https://twitter.com/chaserpent/status/1611575502073896960
The girls are FIGHTINGGG #SpeakerVote
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It's old people fighting but it's fighting lol https://twitter.com/chaserpent/status/1611575502073896960
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/6/2023 11:25 PM
Awww, their osteoporosis won't allow them to fight for long
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boooooo
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gimme my money back
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/6/2023 11:25 PM
The party of law and order, everyone.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/6/2023 11:25 PM
heh
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MisterStompy 1/6/2023 11:26 PM
I wanna see them pull out switchblades
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Awww, their osteoporosis won't allow them to fight for long
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/6/2023 11:26 PM
If they did, it'd be like the scene from Up.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/6/2023 11:27 PM
Damn the 2016 election really was like So do you wsnt to stick your dick in the gloryhole with Herpes or the Gloryhole with the clap
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AvoidOblivion 1/6/2023 11:28 PM
The GOP party dates back to the 1850s. I guess they do want to go back to the "good ole days," but in this case, the times when real fights would break out.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/6/2023 11:28 PM
lol
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AvoidOblivion
The GOP party dates back to the 1850s. I guess they do want to go back to the "good ole days," but in this case, the times when real fights would break out.
MisterStompy 1/6/2023 11:28 PM
A lot of these guys were alive back then
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/6/2023 11:28 PM
nah that part of history is long gone, tragically
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/6/2023 11:29 PM
https://youtu.be/-okf80X0Nc0?t=35 Live footage of two GOP members getting into an altercation.
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MisterStompy
A lot of these guys were alive back then
AvoidOblivion 1/6/2023 11:29 PM
The oldest one is nearly 90, if I remember correctly.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/6/2023 11:29 PM
bro should not be a politician
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THAT WHAT I SAID EARLIER. THEY NEARLY CATCHED HANDS
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MisterStompy 1/6/2023 11:29 PM
We need younger politicians so that they actually fight
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Alright when do we given them weapons and lock em in, thunderdome style
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The oldest one is nearly 90, if I remember correctly.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/6/2023 11:30 PM
if people are harping on "F-f-f-footholds of the himalayas" why is no one harping on mr I need to change my diapers mid political meeting
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MisterStompy 1/6/2023 11:30 PM
I want to see dudes getting kicked in the kidneys
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/6/2023 11:30 PM
Why do you think they keep striking down healthcare? It means they won't have to take that pesky medicine any more. (edited)
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Alright when do we given them weapons and lock em in, thunderdome style
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/6/2023 11:33 PM
Nah, do it PUBG style and drop them in the middle of nowhere with weapons scattered about.
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Nah, do it PUBG style and drop them in the middle of nowhere with weapons scattered about.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/6/2023 11:33 PM
make them kill eachother by using their fake dentures
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/6/2023 11:34 PM
I would pay to see Matt Gaetz get wacked in the face with a frying pan.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Why do you think they keep striking down healthcare? It means they won't have to take that pesky medicine any more. (edited)
AvoidOblivion 1/6/2023 11:34 PM
Most would have a heart attack after their super expensive dress clothes got dirty.
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MisterStompy 1/6/2023 11:34 PM
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AvoidOblivion 1/6/2023 11:34 PM
His fingers look... wrong.
11:34 PM
I understand it is the angle and movement of the camera, but still.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/6/2023 11:34 PM
Osteoporosis. Not even once.
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AvoidOblivion
Most would have a heart attack after their super expensive dress clothes got dirty.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/6/2023 11:34 PM
As a person who got his own full suit at a discount store for less than 50 bones.....I still understand that
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/6/2023 11:35 PM
I like how it looks like red tie guy is about to get unmasked Scooby-Doo style.
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AvoidOblivion 1/6/2023 11:36 PM
"Lizard Man #23507, you've been pretending to be a Representative!? It all makes sense now!"
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/6/2023 11:36 PM
lol
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They had to vote twice to Adjurn. Because the first vote tied
11:44 PM
Second time seems to be nay
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Jfc Jerreies and McCarthy tied again atm
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/7/2023 12:30 AM
https://youtu.be/FfZDqT_0uPI The perfect voice clip to describe this whole thing.
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McCarthy finally did get it apparently!?!
12:32 AM
But I don't know why he's celebrating He still has a 213 dem vote who have held the fucking line
12:35 AM
And the senate And the fact he gave FUCKING GAETZ a nuclear option to remove him
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/7/2023 12:39 AM
damnit
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Eh. We knew it was gonna happen. Now I can enjoy McCarthy trying in vain to get shit passed and Having Chuck Shumher tell him to go Fuck himself
2:05 AM
For 2 years
2:06 AM
Also the next election isn't looking too hot for gop either
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Meanwhile that's two more years of literally no movement on public investment in climate change safety net, no infrastructure repairs, no well... nothing we desperately need. At this point every year passed without massive spending on preparing to adapt to the climate crisis is countless lives lost before we get a grip on it. The number only goes up exponentially with each passing year.
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It also means no way of existing protections getting wiped either
2:18 AM
And McCarthy is in a house of cards
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Aces high
It also means no way of existing protections getting wiped either
Not "permanently" by passing a law... but the court rulings can be struck down. And they cannot be reinforced by passing a law either. (edited)
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And McCarthy is in a house of cards
Of course he is... he's a Republican... the whole party is a house of cards right now.
2:21 AM
A shockingly resilient one... but fragile all the same.
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We almost saw it collapse into a fight tonight I hate to say this, but we need to flame the Gaetz/McCarthy hate flames..hard
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It also means no way of existing protections getting wiped either
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/7/2023 2:44 AM
the protections that are so bare bones it might not even be a complete skeleton?
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believe or not, yeah
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Yeah and that's not counting the fact that any freedom/protection is worthless without the right to life. Which we do not have in any way shape or form.
2:47 AM
Fetuses have more protections than living humans do.
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fun fact, did you know before the passage of the superfund act, businesses would intentionally hide hazardous toxins in cement or gravel to sell to cities as a way of getting rid of the stuff?
2:47 AM
that's hardcoded into law
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fun fact, did you know before the passage of the superfund act, businesses would intentionally hide hazardous toxins in cement or gravel to sell to cities as a way of getting rid of the stuff?
Didn't know that, but doesn't surprise me in the slightest.
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or that before the clean air act, even rural countrysides would suffer unchecked smog that caused numerous lung development issues?
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or that before the clean air act, even rural countrysides would suffer unchecked smog that caused numerous lung development issues?
Sure... anywhere there was a basin had it I remember well.
2:50 AM
That said, even the antelope valley of CA was always better off than we were in LA on those days. 😉
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Or how about the ESA, which just got strengthened, which help maintain endangered wild species, as well as help keep code with construction of homes and also was a key part in maintaining having FUCKING national forest.
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Or how about the ESA, which just got strengthened, which help maintain endangered wild species, as well as help keep code with construction of homes and also was a key part in maintaining having FUCKING national forest.
The forests are gonna die in 20-30 years... so those protections are kinda moot.
2:55 AM
More just a smokescreen to make people believe Dems care about what their constituents do.
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my point, is that those laws literally prevent a even worse version of victorian standards of living on us masses. And that politically, death by 1000 cuts is a tactic
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my point, is that those laws literally prevent a even worse version of victorian standards of living on us masses. And that politically, death by 1000 cuts is a tactic
Oh sure. It's just not an example of real protection against the dangers we actually face in the coming years. Particularly when inaction completely circumvents those protections.
3:02 AM
None of it protects anyone from fascist violence. Nor fixes the effectively non-existent mental healthcare which leads to random violence.
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In order to maximize progress and knowledge, it must ultimately meet ALL basic human needs first. Because it's been scientifically proven that people who experience anxiety or fear over where their next basic needs come from are less able to participate in critical thinking/reasoning than THEY would be without those anxieties. So all basic human needs would have to be assured to all first, in order to ensure that all human beings could participate at their best in pursuing knowledge and advancement. So to that end I would say my ideology (egalitarianism/anarchism/free socialism) does maximize progress and knowledge by allowing people, freedom of voluntary association, freedom from fear of not having basic needs met, and by encouraging people to think outside the box to resolve problems they face collectively and individually. (edited)
Alright, thanks for sharing! 👍 Most left leaning people I’ve met don’t care much about progress so it’s nice seeing your opinion on this.
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In the end, "progress" is a useless term unless you define what is progressing. Are we making progress on equality? On the ability of individuals to determine their own future? On our ability to feed everyone? On the ability for a person to walk alone safely at night? On the ability for a child to feel safe and secure within their family and neighborhood? All those can be progress, but some people ignore those benchmarks and chase progress in the form of accumulating capital for no reason. Or accumulating pretty but ultimately useless things. Or accumulating power for the sake of it.
By progress, I mean the availability to learn as much as feasibly possible, that would require more advanced technology. I’m not going to argue about which goals are the best goals because they’re purely subjective but I think it’s better having discussions when we have a common goal in mind as people can be more objective when determining points and can find similiar conclusions.
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his youtube channel says he wishes for humanity to achieve omniscience so i think this guy's on a bit of a soul-searching journey
I wouldn’t call it soul searching haha but thank you 👍
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Best of luck to him. I hope it's a real journey and not one of those "made up my mind beforehand and now I'm just running around trying to justify it" ones
It is, I’ve believed in it for 11 years lmao. I understand that most people here don’t really prioritise knowledge or a world encyclopaedia and probably won’t have their mind chanved however I still think it’s important to see and compare their points to have my mind changed. No point believing that my ideology is 100% correct.
6:15 AM
I still don’t understand how challenging people’s views is classed as trolling :/
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Sarunas
I still don’t understand how challenging people’s views is classed as trolling :/
Because you're asking vague questions that seem like they're fishing for certain answers, and in previous discussions you've then followed it up with more relentless questions. That particular trolling tactic is called "sealioning" and it's particularly common with libertarian types and others who are convinced their views are superior/more academic/better. Here's the comic from which the tactic got its name: http://wondermark.com/1k62/
(Click to read the whole comic)
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8:30 AM
That said you haven't been sealioning this particular discussion and it's been wonderful so thanks for that! Discussion prompts in and of themselves aren't bad, it's how you follow up that makes it trolling.
8:33 AM
If you continue to behave more like you're doing now and less like you did when you first entered the server I think we'll have a fine time and get along ok, even if I doubt we'll ever agree.
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I don't see how I was trolling before, I had simply provided my reasonings in a discussion but atleast you don't see me as a troll lmao
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/7/2023 12:10 PM
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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) has activated the state National Guard to provide support to local officials in response to the arrival of hundreds of migrants in the Florida Keys. He signed an execu…
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/7/2023 12:37 PM
what are they gonna do????
12:37 PM
legitimately curious
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/7/2023 12:38 PM
“biden’s lawless immigration policies” literally just passed a law where you will be turned away if you don’t apply for asylum prior to arrival (edited)
12:39 PM
OK
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Does anybody want to continue having a discussion on whether or not your ideology would maximise knowledge
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Sarunas
Does anybody want to continue having a discussion on whether or not your ideology would maximise knowledge
Probably safe to assume no at this point. You put a bad taste in everyone's mouth yesterday. And it hasn't gone away.
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Meh, if people were that sensitive to different views then it's best not to discuss anything with them
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Sarunas
Meh, if people were that sensitive to different views then it's best not to discuss anything with them
Further proving your stated intention for being here is a lie, by refusing to take credit for your part in making people unhappy with your presence. I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, but we're done.
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Sarunas
Does anybody want to continue having a discussion on whether or not your ideology would maximise knowledge
I wasn’t really interested in having this conversation in the first place, so, no.
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topaz
I wasn’t really interested in having this conversation in the first place, so, no.
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Spinner
Further proving your stated intention for being here is a lie, by refusing to take credit for your part in making people unhappy with your presence. I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, but we're done.
Ah yes, because me not wanting to discuss with people that have a bad taste just of the mention of a different view somehow means I'm lying about wanting to have discussion and learn.
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Sarunas
Ah yes, because me not wanting to discuss with people that have a bad taste just of the mention of a different view somehow means I'm lying about wanting to have discussion and learn.
What part of "we're done" don't you understand? Are you going to continue to disrespect other people's boundaries?
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If we're done why do you keep messaging me?
4:14 PM
I'm simply responding to that bogus you sent me, you're the one choosing to continue talking after that
4:14 PM
I mean, you can't expect to call someone a liar and expect no response lmao
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Sarunas
If we're done why do you keep messaging me?
Have you gotten enough last words in yet?
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Yes, I already responded to what you sent me
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Great. Stay the fuck out of my conversations from here out. Don't reply. Don't tag me. Clear?
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You responded to me 💀
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Spinner
Probably safe to assume no at this point. You put a bad taste in everyone's mouth yesterday. And it hasn't gone away.
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Man what happened here?
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Sarunas
Does anybody want to continue having a discussion on whether or not your ideology would maximise knowledge
What ideologies would maximize knowledge?
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knuckles
What ideologies would maximize knowledge?
That's what I'm trying to confirm
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I suppose ones that put a high emphasis on education, including government spending on education?
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Honestly the goal of an idealology being the maximization of knowledge seems to be a dangerous goal. (edited)
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Or ones that focus around technocracy or something
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I'm under the belief that Voluntaryism would maximise knowledge but that's up for discussion
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ooh boy, here we go.
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I don't see it as a dangerous goal, so long as it is not seem as the highest, end goal
5:57 PM
Voluntaryism? How so?
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knuckles
I don't see it as a dangerous goal, so long as it is not seem as the highest, end goal
My statement was based on it being the stated highest end goal. It being a goal isn't bad.
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I haven't heard about or read about voluntaryists or voluntaryism in years
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I admit I phrased my opiniion poorly
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Ah don't worry
5:58 PM
I figured that was what u meant but I wanted to be 100% sure
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Sarunas
I'm under the belief that Voluntaryism would maximise knowledge but that's up for discussion
Voluntaryism as an ideology is based on a very simplistic and entry level interpretation of economics as a discipline, so much so that it explodes violently upon even taking my college econ 101 class.
5:59 PM
Historically it is connected to discredited schools of economics that were abandoned as more work was put into the field but still has devoted cult like followings. (edited)
6:00 PM
Dead-weight loss as a concept sort of kills the idea that a system optimates optimally without intervention. The taxation of winners and compensation of losers can increase the total economic benefit of a system.
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I don't think any society that lacks spending and resources on both public and private education can claim to maximize knowledge. I don't know about voluntaryism though; I'd assume it would be possible but only if every (or a majority of) tax payers in a given school district supported a higher school budget, or if private education was so good and so affordable that everyone could get a good education through the private sector
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Voluntaryism is a type of right wing anarchism.
6:01 PM
I used to be entrenched in hyper-libertarian philosophies during my younger years, I know the philosophy pretty well.
6:02 PM
Based on my reading of the texts earlier I believe Order is attempting to employ a Socratic Method, albeit in a manner that is rather hamfisted.
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knuckles
I haven't heard about or read about voluntaryists or voluntaryism in years
I believe Voluntaryism is the best ideology in maximising knowledge because it maximises freedom of speech, press and ideas which is required when needing to learn. It also limits government power which could prevent people from pursuing interests and passions. Finally, in its place there's a free market and property rights which seem to have been the best systems in incentivising entrepreneurship and innovation in a system that rewards knowledge.
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Sarunas
I believe Voluntaryism is the best ideology in maximising knowledge because it maximises freedom of speech, press and ideas which is required when needing to learn. It also limits government power which could prevent people from pursuing interests and passions. Finally, in its place there's a free market and property rights which seem to have been the best systems in incentivising entrepreneurship and innovation in a system that rewards knowledge.
Corperations are structures of power just like a government is, it simply has a different goal, the maximization of profit rather than the stability of society underneath it.
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Polyester
Voluntaryism is a type of right wing anarchism.
While Voluntaryism in many forms can be Anarchist, Voluntaryism can have a place for a state, albeit a very minimal one.
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Sarunas
While Voluntaryism in many forms can be Anarchist, Voluntaryism can have a place for a state, albeit a very minimal one.
That is a fair statement. It would have been more accurate if I said it was closely related.
6:04 PM
It has been a long time.
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Polyester
Corperations are structures of power just like a government is, it simply has a different goal, the maximization of profit rather than the stability of society underneath it.
They have an incentive to gatekeep knowledge for personal financial gain. There is a reason that many scientific journals have expensive subscription services, they can get away with it. (edited)
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Polyester
Corperations are structures of power just like a government is, it simply has a different goal, the maximization of profit rather than the stability of society underneath it.
That's correct, many people on the right including me agree that companies will always try maximising profit, we just believe that corporations need to take steps such as increasing entrepreneurship and give concessions to beat competition.
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Polyester
It has been a long time.
No worries 👍
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Sarunas
That's correct, many people on the right including me agree that companies will always try maximising profit, we just believe that corporations need to take steps such as increasing entrepreneurship and give concessions to beat competition.
Corporations want competition until they begin to dominate the market. Then they quickly attempt to form trusts and alliances as any other structure of power would.
6:06 PM
The centralization of capital is in the best interests of business owners and shareholders.
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Polyester
Corporations want competition until they begin to dominate the market. Then they quickly attempt to form trusts and alliances as any other structure of power would.
Are you under the assumption that harmful monopolies form under a free market?
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Sarunas
Are you under the assumption that harmful monopolies form under a free market?
I am under the assumption power centralizes unless actively combatted.
6:07 PM
This is a pattern seen in governments, militias, and markets.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/7/2023 6:08 PM
monopolies only make sense under a free market. It’s like how FPTP often becomes two-party; one company gains more attention and therefore more money, and that’s more money to advertise, develop products, and lower prices than their competition
6:08 PM
which would only escalate to the elimination of competition as the public finds no reason to buy from them since the bigger company provides what they want for cheaper
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Flop is correct, somewhat. Markets centralize for the same reasons power in a stabilizing region does. One group does better than the others resulting in a knock on effect that causes it to keep doing better. (edited)
6:09 PM
Monopolies make sense in all market systems unless they are made impossible.
6:09 PM
That is my only disagreement with them on this topic. (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/7/2023 6:10 PM
Oh, poor wording on my part. I didn’t mean that they make sense only in a free market, but instead using “only” to emphasize how it’s still possible in a free market
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No worries, I do the same thing all the time.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/7/2023 6:11 PM
If that makes any sense.
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Polyester
This is a pattern seen in governments, militias, and markets.
While it's true with things such as a state which has coercion as a tool to stay dominant, unless if governments support corporations, corporations rely on people choosing to give value to them. In a free market, a monopoly is a company that is the only supplier of a particular product or service, and therefore has complete control over the price of that product or service. While it is possible for a monopoly to form in a free market, it is not a common occurrence because there are several forces that can work to prevent or break up monopolies. The main reason is that most monopolies that form are harmful. Harmful monopolies will not form in a free market because competition is typically one of the key driving forces in a free market. If a company becomes too dominant and starts to behave in a way that harms consumers or stifles competition, it is likely that other companies will enter the market and try to offer similar products or services at a lower price, which can help to keep prices in check and prevent a monopoly from becoming harmful. If the monopoly chooses to lower its price after taking a loan from a bank, while that would help them momentarily, it does not serve as a long term solution for monopolies and often leads to their stock failing. Once this happens, corporations rather change, fall or turn to the monopoly on violence.
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corporations rely on people choosing to give value to them
This is a nice sounding slogan that doesn't mean anything. All systems of power rely on the public to support them in some capacity. Dictators need their subordinates who need their subordinates who need their foot soldiers. Prime ministers need their parliaments and the millitary, who both get support from the people.
a free market, a monopoly is a company that is the only supplier of a particular product or service, and therefore has complete control over the price of that product or service. While it is possible for a monopoly to form in a free market, it is not a common occurrence because there are several forces that can work to prevent or break up monopolies.
It does not matter if these monopolies break up. No system of power lasts forever. Just as power centralizes unless stops, it also decays unless stopped. Eventually, the decay of power wins out even if it takes decades or centuries.
If a company becomes too dominant and starts to behave in a way that harms consumers or stifles competition, it is likely that other companies will enter the market and try to offer similar products or services at a lower price, which can help to keep prices in check and prevent a monopoly from becoming harmful.
The same comparison can be made for warlords springing up in a failed dictatorship. The core of your argument ignores that a harmful monopoly, when they form, is still harmful. The suffering that the monopoly commits is done, the fact that it eventually decays is not a virtue of the system but an assumption of power.
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6:19 PM
It is better to be proactive in the prevention of harmful monopolies than to rely on entropy.
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Polyester
corporations rely on people choosing to give value to them
This is a nice sounding slogan that doesn't mean anything. All systems of power rely on the public to support them in some capacity. Dictators need their subordinates who need their subordinates who need their foot soldiers. Prime ministers need their parliaments and the millitary, who both get support from the people.
a free market, a monopoly is a company that is the only supplier of a particular product or service, and therefore has complete control over the price of that product or service. While it is possible for a monopoly to form in a free market, it is not a common occurrence because there are several forces that can work to prevent or break up monopolies.
It does not matter if these monopolies break up. No system of power lasts forever. Just as power centralizes unless stops, it also decays unless stopped. Eventually, the decay of power wins out even if it takes decades or centuries.
If a company becomes too dominant and starts to behave in a way that harms consumers or stifles competition, it is likely that other companies will enter the market and try to offer similar products or services at a lower price, which can help to keep prices in check and prevent a monopoly from becoming harmful.
The same comparison can be made for warlords springing up in a failed dictatorship. The core of your argument ignores that a harmful monopoly, when they form, is still harmful. The suffering that the monopoly commits is done, the fact that it eventually decays is not a virtue of the system but an assumption of power.
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Let me rephrase that first point then, corporations take more of an impact on whether people value them or not. When governments impose laws that aren't popular with a larger part of the population, the state won't always have incentives to change the law. If corporations are selling items that are sold at higher than what most people would value them at, people turn to alternatives. As for your second point, I'm sorry but just saying yes it will or not it won't isn't really a point, you didn't really provide reasoning. Moving on, I wouldn't say a harmful monopoly being replaced by companies with cheaper and/or better products can be fairly compared to warlords replacing a dictatorship.
6:26 PM
I'm very sorry to interrupt but I will not be able to respond to your next point, I've got to go sleep lol, I'll give it a read tomorrow morning
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Corperations make decisions that are unpopular all the time. How often have you seen people complain about a change in Discord, Reddit, or any other social media platform? Often times these changes are without recourse even in large backlashes. The assumption people will buy alternative goods runs off the assumption those goods exist. There is no alternative good for Discord, because Discords goods is not so much the software but the communities on it. There is no alternative good for Animorphs. There are other stories with similar themes but there is only one series called Animoprhs written by the authors of the series. The reasoning is in the statements. There is no system of power that has lasted forever. Not in nature, not in government, and certainly not in business. This is not a statement that needs reasoning behind it. (edited)
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Nature has been pretty constant
6:30 PM
Food chain, yo
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How many apex predators have lasted at the top of the food chain from the primordial soup to the modern day?
6:30 PM
How many of those will survive the warming of the sun over the next few billion years?
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Polyester
How many apex predators have lasted at the top of the food chain from the primordial soup to the modern day?
Pretty sure all of them since like the dinosaurs died out
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knuckles
Pretty sure all of them since like the dinosaurs died out
Human have not been around since the dinosaurs died out.
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Either way, I'm kinda derailing here. Sorry
6:31 PM
Humans are not really the apex predator unless we have the help of tools
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But we developed those tools and became the apex predators in a way that, to our knowledge, was never done before.
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True
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If you were an outside observer you would say the rules for what makes an apex species fundamentally changed.
6:33 PM
Because a bunch of hairless meat bags just invented agriculture and no longer cared you were a lion, we have 50 people with bows that will kill you before you hit the floor.
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And then we only got more dominant from there. We build cities, scar the landscape, make species go extinct literally while trying not to sometimes.
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The rules changed.
6:36 PM
Eventually the rules are going to change again. Humanity will change to not being made of flesh, wiping ourselves out, or replacing ourselves and passing the torch of humanity to the next generation of sapient or to the next sapient mega intelligence, depending on whats possible with AI.
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Eventually, everything will sputter out, there will be no energy, there will be nothing. And if we're lucky, there will be another big bang and the wonder of life can continue to exist with new and different rules. (edited)
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Wew this became a tangent.
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Anyway. Point is, harmful monopolies are bad, free markets can make them, we should not allow them to exist.
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MisterStompy 1/7/2023 6:57 PM
OPEN THIS PIT, I WANNA SEE SOME VIOLENCE
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What are your principles MisterStompy?
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What are your principles MisterStompy?
MisterStompy 1/7/2023 7:02 PM
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I didn't ask you what youre position on the political compass was
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I asked what your principles were.
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I didn't ask you what youre position on the political compass was
MisterStompy 1/7/2023 7:05 PM
I thought the top sector showed principles
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My principles are social egalitarianism, free markets and robust welfare.
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Oh and liberal democracy obv (edited)
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Those aren't principles, those are policies and systems.
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MisterStompy 1/7/2023 7:06 PM
MY principles are I don't know what principles are I guess?
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I'm anti racist, anti fascist, anti communist. I don't like prejudice or discrimination based on sexual or gender identity. I believe in freedom of religion.
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Ask yourselves why you support those policies/ideals and peel back the layers. (edited)
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When you can't conceptually figure out why anymore, you have your principles. (edited)
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MisterStompy 1/7/2023 7:08 PM
I guess it just seems like the right thing to do?
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You can go deeper than that
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WHat makes it the right thing to do?
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As an example. My core principle is self-love. I am altruistic and want to do good by people because it makes me feel good. (edited)
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MisterStompy 1/7/2023 7:12 PM
I see people being assholes and I don't like it.
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Anti-fascism and anti-racism, is an extension of the alturism and doing right by the others.
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Excellent, thats a great start.
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MisterStompy 1/7/2023 7:12 PM
Grew up in immigrant neighborhoods and liked hanging out with the kids next door so I never believed in nationalism.
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Keep at it. You wont figure it out by sitting around one day and thinking.
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Keep at it. You wont figure it out by sitting around one day and thinking.
I'm curious what your credentials are to grill a random stranger on a discord you just joined like this.
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Stomp doesn't owe you more detail. And doesn't deserve you telling him that his answers aren't good enough for you. Who are you to decide that for him?
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Stomp doesn't owe you more detail. And doesn't deserve you telling him that his answers aren't good enough for you. Who are you to decide that for him?
You are taking a very hostile and honestly disengenuous analysis of my actions.
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Keep at it. You wont figure it out by sitting around one day and thinking.
MisterStompy 1/7/2023 7:32 PM
What are your principles?
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Its true, he doesn't owe me anything
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However the assumption of having a conversation is that people want to engage with it unless they give signals they want to break it off.
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You are taking a very hostile and honestly disengenuous analysis of my actions.
You leap into the server and start demanding to know someone's values. That's pretty aggressive.
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You leap into the server and start demanding to know someone's values. That's pretty aggressive.
It is very forward, it's not necessarily agressive.
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Don't take a few days to engage in general conversations... get people a chance to know you a bit.
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What are your principles?
Ill respond in a moment.
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Don't take a few days to engage in general conversations... get people a chance to know you a bit.
Thats probably a better way of engaging with a community. I am a very forward person who has this over-forwardness as a problem I work on. Thank you for pointing it out.
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Ill respond in a moment.
MisterStompy 1/7/2023 7:33 PM
wrong answer those aren't principles
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You got me there
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It's almost like you are just another screen name of one of the 5 others we have had in the past 3 days.
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MisterStompy 1/7/2023 7:34 PM
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Did I overstep my boundries Stompy? I apologize if I did. You wanted to see a fight so I took it as an invitation to get nit and gritty.
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It's almost like you are just another screen name of one of the 5 others we have had in the past 3 days.
MisterStompy 1/7/2023 7:34 PM
pretty sure everyone just got off on the wrong foot
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Did I overstep my boundries Stompy? I apologize if I did. You wanted to see a fight so I took it as an invitation to get nit and gritty.
MisterStompy 1/7/2023 7:34 PM
yeah but idk if you intended to
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I apologize. That was not my intention.
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MisterStompy 1/7/2023 7:35 PM
alright I believe you
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To answer your question, my core principle is self love. I can't answer why I love myself in a matter that isn't cyclical, so its as good as a grounding as any. From this self love means to this principle are built up. Love of others, because doing good makes me feel good. Faith in humanity, because a humanity that is fundamentally good is the reality I want to live in. From these other things spring.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/7/2023 10:58 PM
Eyy.
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Can you send the link to that test?
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Can you send the link to that test?
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/7/2023 11:02 PM
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Ask and ye shall receive, my good man.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/7/2023 11:28 PM
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with economy i feel its heavily innacurate as I hold a case of Knowing jackshit about economical policy
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I didn't even know that version of libertarianism existed
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Its part of the left-libertarian group
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I see
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If you all notice, the difference between yall is tiny. And yet each has it's own "title" Titles are bullshit.
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I thought I’d be more Libertarian but oh well
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BubsyFanboy 1/8/2023 4:53 AM
In Belarus, digital piracy against “unfriendly countries” has been legalized. Under the new law, it is allowed to use digital materials without the consent of foreign copyright holders, the Russian editorial office of Deutsche Welle announced on Saturday. The new law allows for pirate use of films, music and computer programs from “unfriendly co...
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as a white hat hacker in training, I go by the philosophy "information wants to be free"
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“A Libertarian in Jersey” -imagine that series confusing the feudals of today. The O.G. libertarian is 🏴🚩🏴
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/8/2023 10:21 AM
that stashe will make any man jealous
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Yo sammity Sam looking ass was the first definitive libertarian -hard left. While in new orleans he was loudly supporting John Brown, them other bangbang boys.
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BubsyFanboy 1/8/2023 2:22 PM
Hundreds of people appear to have overcome security and stormed the National Congress building. Bolsonaro backers have refused to accept leftist Lula's election victory.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/8/2023 2:26 PM
the funny thing is that the congress is in recess
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MisterStompy 1/8/2023 2:46 PM
"would you like to have zero rights or would you like for gays to have rights?" https://twitter.com/navyhato/status/1611624213835812865
If you had the choice, would you rather live in 1970s USSR or 2020s USA?
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Others demonstrators were gathering outside the presidential palace and Supreme Court,
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Not again
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njscjsdnf fuck
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"would you like to have zero rights or would you like for gays to have rights?" https://twitter.com/navyhato/status/1611624213835812865
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/8/2023 2:53 PM
that is 100000% a recruitment ploy i'd bet
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I just saw Flop post that
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that is 100000% a recruitment ploy i'd bet
MisterStompy 1/8/2023 2:56 PM
I mean yeah basically everything they do outside of actual combat is
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"would you like to have zero rights or would you like for gays to have rights?" https://twitter.com/navyhato/status/1611624213835812865
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/8/2023 2:56 PM
i swear to god some people seriously don't know how good we have it in nations like the u.s
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i swear to god some people seriously don't know how good we have it in nations like the u.s
MisterStompy 1/8/2023 2:57 PM
no you don't get it's totally preferable to drive around in a total shitbox and wait two hours to get milk then to have GAAAAAAAAAYS in the army
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/8/2023 2:58 PM
come on man, don't diss the lada like that, they're shit but they aren't as bad as the yugo
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come on man, don't diss the lada like that, they're shit but they aren't as bad as the yugo
MisterStompy 1/8/2023 3:00 PM
yugo had some good apperances in movies though
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/8/2023 3:02 PM
Lol tru
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still, I'd rather drive a pinto
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at least i go out with a bang
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Pintos actually didn't explode that much....at least, straight from factory
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they became bombs when someone was messing with it tho
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Pintos actually didn't explode that much....at least, straight from factory
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/8/2023 3:18 PM
the problem was getting rear ended
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"would you like to have zero rights or would you like for gays to have rights?" https://twitter.com/navyhato/status/1611624213835812865
My parents are from the USSR and while many people have problems with LGBT becoming so mainstream, that is in no way worse than the USSR lmao
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/8/2023 4:52 PM
BRAZIL'S CONGRESS, SUPREME COURT AND PRESIDENTIAL PALACE HAVE ALL BEEN RETAKEN BY SECURITY FORCE, DISLODGING BOLSONARO SUPPORTERS - GLOBONEWS
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TheAnonymousDew 1/8/2023 5:55 PM
This has Bannon and Miller all over it
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MisterStompy 1/8/2023 6:23 PM
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God I fucking hope so. Bolsonaro for Gitmo https://twitter.com/benifalcone/status/1612207070123642885
@JakeSullivan46 Arrest Bolsonaro
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I’m not sure Bannon and Miller needed to feed this frenzy explicitly, after spending 2016-2020 encouraging authoritarianism generally.
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There has been a global shift toward populist autocracy in the last 10 years or so. It’s not just the U.S. and Brazil, it’s Le Pen, it’s Duterte, it’s Meloni. Trump is part of that but isn’t the only or necessarily even the main change agent.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/8/2023 9:21 PM
The House plans to vote this week on a resolution to create a special Judiciary subcommittee on what it calls the “weaponization of the federal government,” a topic that Republicans have signaled could include reviewing investigations into Donald Trump. https://t.co/Lr23MaeSd3
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/9/2023 8:47 AM
Today, 59 years ago, an anti-american riot turned violent, now we pay our respects and commemorate those who were lost https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martyrs%27_Day_(Panama)
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"would you like to have zero rights or would you like for gays to have rights?" https://twitter.com/navyhato/status/1611624213835812865
BubsyFanboy 1/9/2023 12:33 PM
I'm 100% certain he picked this picture because of the woman.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/9/2023 1:58 PM
Why am I not surprised?
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MisterStompy 1/9/2023 5:08 PM
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
smerpyderp 1/9/2023 5:09 PM
Oh hell fuckin yea!
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/9/2023 5:13 PM
oh shit?
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MisterStompy 1/9/2023 5:18 PM
Former Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro was admitted to a hospital on Monday for abdominal “discomfort” related to injuries from a 2018 knife attack during a political rally, according to his wife Michelle Bolsonaro https://t.co/q1WKYotXSp
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has nothing to do with a knife, my dude ate too much colonel
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/9/2023 5:22 PM
Serves you right for eating KFC.
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Serves you right for eating KFC.
MisterStompy 1/9/2023 5:33 PM
KFC has some good stuff, like that chicken mac and cheese bowl. But Popeye's is still superior.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/9/2023 5:41 PM
fun fast food fact, Pizza hut is fucking dying here
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KFC has some good stuff, like that chicken mac and cheese bowl. But Popeye's is still superior.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/9/2023 6:45 PM
and popeyes also only gets better the worse the customer service is
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if they treat you like you killed a child in front of them that’s gonna be some BOMB ass food (edited)
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and popeyes also only gets better the worse the customer service is
MisterStompy 1/9/2023 6:46 PM
brb going to get punched in the teeth by a pissed off Popeye's cashier
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has nothing to do with a knife, my dude ate too much colonel
At least it wasn't hotdogs and root beer.
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And if you get that reference I know what group you are in on Facebook.
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MisterStompy 1/9/2023 7:48 PM
For those who don't know, Teslas have not exactly been performing by optimal standards lately, so Elon has had to do massive price cuts to keep selling them. Recently a bunch of people in China are pissed that they bought a car and then literally the next day the car cost a fraction of the price. https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/107q5se/angry_tesla_customers_in_china_storming_a_tsla/
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/9/2023 8:01 PM
lmfao
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noooo what are they doing?? the teslas will explode at the slightest of tampering!
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/9/2023 9:02 PM
In Texas, at least a dozen anti-LGBTQ+ bills have been proposed in the first week of 2023.
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rathernot123 1/10/2023 2:24 AM
THREAD. One of the main ways the news media distorts our perceptions of public safety is through decisions about the volume of news stories. This is one of the most important, but least discussed aspects of copaganda. I try my best to describe why it is important with examples.
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GODFUCKING DAMNIT MOTHERFUCKING FUCKS!!! Fucking well known fucking anarchist blowhard raped a woman and fucking falls back on fucking mental health problems. No goddamnit... we used to beat motherfuckers who did that into a hospital if they were lucky once upon a time. We don't fucking let them get away with motherfucking rape. And the reason we fucking don't is the fucking Andy Fascist Mouthpiece of the US Ngo will goddamned use the shit to paint us all as fucking rapists... which he fucking has. (edited)
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I'm so fucking livid right now sleep is fucking beyond me.
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GODFUCKING DAMNIT MOTHERFUCKING FUCKS!!! Fucking well known fucking anarchist blowhard raped a woman and fucking falls back on fucking mental health problems. No goddamnit... we used to beat motherfuckers who did that into a hospital if they were lucky once upon a time. We don't fucking let them get away with motherfucking rape. And the reason we fucking don't is the fucking Andy Fascist Mouthpiece of the US Ngo will goddamned use the shit to paint us all as fucking rapists... which he fucking has. (edited)
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/10/2023 2:55 AM
If it's consolation, I just read a comment from ShoeOnHead (AKA: ShitOnHead) that tried paint all Soc Dems and Dem Socs as liking bestiality because a few dipshits who identified as that tried to defend it in a Twitter argument.
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Woman, it's Twitter.
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The only place where you'll find more idiotic individuals is 4chan. Even Reddit doesn't come that close.
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The only place where you'll find more idiotic individuals is 4chan. Even Reddit doesn't come that close.
While Shithead is usually always a good source of schadenfreude... no it's not helpful this time. Thanks though. This issue particularly in the Pacific North West is an ongoing one, these fucking so called anarchists have a history of turning a blind eye to sexual assault and rape. And the worst part of it is, Andy Ngo is fucking right when it comes to them at least in part. If we aren't rapists ourselves, but we don't fucking remove them from our circles, we're no better than those who are.
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BubsyFanboy 1/10/2023 5:23 AM
[Russian article] https://www.severreal.org/a/privet-ot-chvk-vagnera-10-let-za-posty-o-voyne-studentke-iz-arhangelska-/32213271.html
Olesya Kryvtsova, a sophomore from Arkhangelsk, faces 10 years in prison for speaking out in social networks against Russia's military actions in Ukraine. One of the criminal cases against Kryvtsova was initiated on denunciation after she reposted pacifist recordings in a closed chat with classmates. Sever.Realii tells what is known about the case of 19-year-old Olesya Krivtsova and what her classmates have to do with it.
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[Russian article] https://www.severreal.org/a/privet-ot-chvk-vagnera-10-let-za-posty-o-voyne-studentke-iz-arhangelska-/32213271.html
Olesya Kryvtsova, a sophomore from Arkhangelsk, faces 10 years in prison for speaking out in social networks against Russia's military actions in Ukraine. One of the criminal cases against Kryvtsova was initiated on denunciation after she reposted pacifist recordings in a closed chat with classmates. Sever.Realii tells what is known about the case of 19-year-old Olesya Krivtsova and what her classmates have to do with it.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/10/2023 9:29 AM
"Why hasn't there been a new Russian revolution??" T h i s
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KFC has some good stuff, like that chicken mac and cheese bowl. But Popeye's is still superior.
Bojangles 4 EVAHHHHH
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anything that's not hick-fil-a
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GODFUCKING DAMNIT MOTHERFUCKING FUCKS!!! Fucking well known fucking anarchist blowhard raped a woman and fucking falls back on fucking mental health problems. No goddamnit... we used to beat motherfuckers who did that into a hospital if they were lucky once upon a time. We don't fucking let them get away with motherfucking rape. And the reason we fucking don't is the fucking Andy Fascist Mouthpiece of the US Ngo will goddamned use the shit to paint us all as fucking rapists... which he fucking has. (edited)
MisterStompy 1/10/2023 12:54 PM
What happened? Who?
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anything that's not hick-fil-a
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/10/2023 12:54 PM
All i ever need is a mcchicken
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While Shithead is usually always a good source of schadenfreude... no it's not helpful this time. Thanks though. This issue particularly in the Pacific North West is an ongoing one, these fucking so called anarchists have a history of turning a blind eye to sexual assault and rape. And the worst part of it is, Andy Ngo is fucking right when it comes to them at least in part. If we aren't rapists ourselves, but we don't fucking remove them from our circles, we're no better than those who are.
MisterStompy 1/10/2023 12:57 PM
Oh okay I get the gist of it. I got falsely accused of predatory behavior by communists from that area, then anarchists from that area jumped in and threatened to kill me (I saw a few of them irl a few times beforehand so they were doxing me). After them telling me I'm not actually mentally ill and then gaslighting me into thinking I was a rapist I later looked through all the dm's and realized the accusations were bullshit, then several of the anarchists that were threatening to kill me got outed as rapists. One of them targeted an underage trans man. (edited)
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Well the last guy was from Utah and not the PNW but still same sphere of people
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Wow those are some big ass tampons dude https://twitter.com/swandane/status/1610534048488910849
It’s been some day folks cause today is the day i learnt that men can buy tampons. I’ve now officially seen it all. Bookmark this too please @rtralphy .
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those aren't tampons that's old guy underwear
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MisterStompy 1/10/2023 1:00 PM
Where do we put them? Which crevice?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/10/2023 1:01 PM
I love how it has 4 million views but only 680 likes
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/10/2023 3:18 PM
Steve Bannon has long promoted claims of voter fraud on his show, and is now lauding the crowd that stormed Brazil's Congress.
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AvoidOblivion 1/10/2023 3:36 PM
He’s disgusting.
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Oh okay I get the gist of it. I got falsely accused of predatory behavior by communists from that area, then anarchists from that area jumped in and threatened to kill me (I saw a few of them irl a few times beforehand so they were doxing me). After them telling me I'm not actually mentally ill and then gaslighting me into thinking I was a rapist I later looked through all the dm's and realized the accusations were bullshit, then several of the anarchists that were threatening to kill me got outed as rapists. One of them targeted an underage trans man. (edited)
I'm all for killing rapists. As long as it's not a state apparatus overseeing it. But there are really strong indicators for what is and isn't a valid accusation. This was an instance where the victim clearly outlined the nuances of their relationship that pre-existed the assaults and rape and the instances of sexual assault and rape. But the kicker is, the dude fessed up to it, but then blamed his mental illness for it. There are a few diagnosable illnesses that can cause impaired understanding of consent or the revocation of consent. He didn't pick one of those to blame... he picked one that has an opposite effect. Personally...I'd rather be accused of rape and killed when I didn't do it, than have a single rapist be allowed to rape again. It'd send a mighty fine message to rapists if they knew they would die if they did it. Hell I might fess up to it even if innocent if I knew the end result was my death as an example. I've survived too long in this shitshow as it is. Might as well have my death have meaning. (edited)
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I'm all for killing rapists. As long as it's not a state apparatus overseeing it. But there are really strong indicators for what is and isn't a valid accusation. This was an instance where the victim clearly outlined the nuances of their relationship that pre-existed the assaults and rape and the instances of sexual assault and rape. But the kicker is, the dude fessed up to it, but then blamed his mental illness for it. There are a few diagnosable illnesses that can cause impaired understanding of consent or the revocation of consent. He didn't pick one of those to blame... he picked one that has an opposite effect. Personally...I'd rather be accused of rape and killed when I didn't do it, than have a single rapist be allowed to rape again. It'd send a mighty fine message to rapists if they knew they would die if they did it. Hell I might fess up to it even if innocent if I knew the end result was my death as an example. I've survived too long in this shitshow as it is. Might as well have my death have meaning. (edited)
MisterStompy 1/10/2023 7:30 PM
Who are you talking about in particular?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/10/2023 7:32 PM
Rep. Buddy Carter, R-Ga., is reintroducing a bill with several colleagues that aims to repeal the national income tax, implement a national consumption tax and abolish the IRS.
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Who are you talking about in particular?
Formerly twitter user known as dennisispeasant. A serial gatekeeping edgelord so called anarchist who got rather popular thanks to their shit takes, gatekeeping, and being in at the right time during #nocomradeunder1k
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Moderately active in the portland scene.
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Formerly twitter user known as dennisispeasant. A serial gatekeeping edgelord so called anarchist who got rather popular thanks to their shit takes, gatekeeping, and being in at the right time during #nocomradeunder1k
MisterStompy 1/10/2023 7:33 PM
yeah it's usually "not a true leftist" people who do this kind of shit
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yeah it's usually "not a true leftist" people who do this kind of shit
It's certainly a common red flag... pun intended... because it's usually auth-coms who do it, both the gatekeeping, and sexual assault. (edited)
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MisterStompy 1/10/2023 7:34 PM
It's part of why I stopped being a leftist. The big names don't give a fuck about fighting fascism or ending inequality, it's all about clout and image to them. Wanting to look cool and counterculture.
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It's part of why I stopped being a leftist. The big names don't give a fuck about fighting fascism or ending inequality, it's all about clout and image to them. Wanting to look cool and counterculture.
I openly called them out on that in 2020 when many of them got their start on the coattails of the folks participating in the actions on the ground. I was openly cancelled by them and targeted with some interesting things myself (I was smart and got screenshots of full private message histories when the first attempts were made so it was easily refuted). I didn't see it as a reason to stop being a "leftist" you can't just choose to ignore the goal of creating a world free from fear of death by starvation, violence, or exposure... unless you didn't believe in it in the first place. But I did get vastly more careful about who I associated with online. (edited)
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I openly called them out on that in 2020 when many of them got their start on the coattails of the folks participating in the actions on the ground. I was openly cancelled by them and targeted with some interesting things myself (I was smart and got screenshots of full private message histories when the first attempts were made so it was easily refuted). I didn't see it as a reason to stop being a "leftist" you can't just choose to ignore the goal of creating a world free from fear of death by starvation, violence, or exposure... unless you didn't believe in it in the first place. But I did get vastly more careful about who I associated with online. (edited)
MisterStompy 1/10/2023 7:50 PM
I've always been far more interested in fighting fascism in general than revolution or anti capitalist activism.
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I've always been far more interested in fighting fascism in general than revolution or anti capitalist activism.
Fair. I suspect you will learn that the two go hand in hand, as one feeds the other.
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Or you won't, and that's fine.
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Fair. I suspect you will learn that the two go hand in hand, as one feeds the other.
MisterStompy 1/10/2023 7:52 PM
Historically that's not exactly the case. During the early years of WW2 the communists in America kept trying to stop lend lease to the allies.
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Also 9 out of ten fascists hate capitalism just as much as communism. Corporatists are the exception.
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Like if you see capitalist language here, point it out for me.
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Also 9 out of ten fascists hate capitalism just as much as communism. Corporatists are the exception.
I'd love to see where that statistic comes from... since most fash I know see themselves as temporarily disenfranchised millionaires who believe that minorities are the ones preventing them from success. Which is incidentally by design, and funded by capitalists.
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I'd love to see where that statistic comes from... since most fash I know see themselves as temporarily disenfranchised millionaires who believe that minorities are the ones preventing them from success. Which is incidentally by design, and funded by capitalists.
MisterStompy 1/10/2023 7:54 PM
From official fascist literature and fascists themselves. Oswald Mosley, Mussolini, Hitler, Goebbels. They constantly talked shit about capitalism as well as Marxism.
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From official fascist literature and fascists themselves. Oswald Mosley, Mussolini, Hitler, Goebbels. They constantly talked shit about capitalism as well as Marxism.
Meanwhile all of them courted and depended on the capitalists.
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Meanwhile all of them courted and depended on the capitalists.
MisterStompy 1/10/2023 7:55 PM
Hitler depended on capitalists? Capitalists were sending Hitler steel and oil? Capitalists signed multiple trade agreements? Capitalists hosted their soldiers and helped them develop tanks?
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Are you forgetting that fascism is literally all about lying to achieve popular support?
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Are you forgetting that fascism is literally all about lying to achieve popular support?
MisterStompy 1/10/2023 7:56 PM
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Hitler depended on capitalists? Capitalists were sending Hitler steel and oil? Capitalists signed multiple trade agreements? Capitalists hosted their soldiers and helped them develop tanks?
Literally all of Nazi germany industry was privately held corporations.
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I don't know what you are attempting to do here, but it seems rather aggressive.
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Literally all of Nazi germany industry was privately held corporations.
MisterStompy 1/10/2023 7:57 PM
Corporations controlled by the state, not privately owned. What do you think would happen if Porsche started saying "hey guys let's not be mean to Jews"?
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This is why DeSantis for instance is a fascist, not a capitalist or a populist. He's using the state to hinder and control the market.
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I'd argue DeSantis is a corpratist fascist, though. Still clinging to some small bit of capitalism, plus he hasn't full on tried to break Disney up yet.
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So corporations exploiting labor and taking 90% of the profit of labor production for the top executives and shareholders is good in your opinion. Corporations gaining that profit by paying so low a wage that their employees survival needs are supplemented by state welfare. Corporations which receive 1.7 to 2.4 times their profit in government tax breaks and subsidies... These things are examples of a great free society in your opinion I take it.
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MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:00 PM
I mean shit the guy who coined the phrase "late stage capitalism" was basically a strasserist.
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So corporations exploiting labor and taking 90% of the profit of labor production for the top executives and shareholders is good in your opinion. Corporations gaining that profit by paying so low a wage that their employees survival needs are supplemented by state welfare. Corporations which receive 1.7 to 2.4 times their profit in government tax breaks and subsidies... These things are examples of a great free society in your opinion I take it.
MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:01 PM
No? Corporations exploiting labor and taking 90% of profits means the workers feel like shit and aren't doing the best job they can. If you want to be as succesful as possible you have to treat the people who work for you like humans so they actually want to work and don't just need to work.
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Is that a cynical thing to say? Yes. But it seems pretty obvious to me.
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If Amazon didn't treat it's workers like dogshit, I'd argue Bezos would be like 20 times as rich.
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No? Corporations exploiting labor and taking 90% of profits means the workers feel like shit and aren't doing the best job they can. If you want to be as succesful as possible you have to treat the people who work for you like humans so they actually want to work and don't just need to work.
It's also as much a pipe dream as final stage marxist utopia.
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It's also as much a pipe dream as final stage marxist utopia.
MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:03 PM
I don't believe in total unregulated capitalism because I'm not a 13 year old ancap.
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I don't believe in total unregulated capitalism because I'm not a 13 year old ancap.
And I don't believe that politicians will EVER regulate capitalism because they are bought and sold by it.
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Literally live high on the hog flying out to lavish vacations as "gifts".
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For fucks sake Antonin Scalia was famously in the pocket of the elite through kickbacks and gifts.
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And I don't believe that politicians will EVER regulate capitalism because they are bought and sold by it.
MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:05 PM
The US already has more regulations to capitalism than say, China does. Far more. Can we do better in certain areas? Yes, absolutely. But to say we have completely unregulated capitalism is ridiculous lmao. You want completely unregulated capitalism look at those company towns from the 1800's, or kids in coalmines, or meat infected with diseases and shit.
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The US already has more regulations to capitalism than say, China does. Far more. Can we do better in certain areas? Yes, absolutely. But to say we have completely unregulated capitalism is ridiculous lmao. You want completely unregulated capitalism look at those company towns from the 1800's, or kids in coalmines, or meat infected with diseases and shit.
Don't make it seem like I want unregulated capitalism to argue with me.
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I don't want capitalism at all.
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Don't make it seem like I want unregulated capitalism to argue with me.
MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:06 PM
I'm not. I'm saying that it's false to say the US does not have regulated capitalism.
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And I'd gladly kill a motherfucker who tried to send kids into a fucking coal mine in front of me.
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MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:07 PM
There's a video out there from this dude who used to live in China who explains why the United States is more socialist than China is (and no I'm not saying you love China or something, I'm guessing you're way more intelligent than that).
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I'm not. I'm saying that it's false to say the US does not have regulated capitalism.
Are you living in 1979 when EPA and other federal agencies were actually getting funding and authority to do what they are meant to do?
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Are you living in 1979 when EPA and other federal agencies were actually getting funding and authority to do what they are meant to do?
MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:07 PM
I'm wanting to go back to that.
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Do you know what unregulated capitalism would be? No minimum wage, child employees and suicide nets outside of phone factories. That isn't the United States.
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There's a video out there from this dude who used to live in China who explains why the United States is more socialist than China is (and no I'm not saying you love China or something, I'm guessing you're way more intelligent than that).
Naw fuck China, but to say they don't have regulations on capitalism is false too... it's not regulations you'd like... but only loyal party officials are allowed to enter the ranks of their capitalist elite.
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Naw fuck China, but to say they don't have regulations on capitalism is false too... it's not regulations you'd like... but only loyal party officials are allowed to enter the ranks of their capitalist elite.
MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:08 PM
Which is why I'd argue they're a Corporatist Fascist state.
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I'm wanting to go back to that.
You'd need to overthrow both congress and SCOTUS to get it.
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MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:09 PM
The regulations on capitalism in China do not favor the people, they favor individuals in power.
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The regulations on capitalism in China do not favor the people, they favor individuals in power.
As do they here. Just different ways.
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MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:09 PM
That's the difference between fascism and socialism. (edited)
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As do they here. Just different ways.
MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:10 PM
Really, you're saying making it illegal for Microsoft to pay children 10 cents an hour for coding benefits the state?
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Really, you're saying making it illegal for Microsoft to pay children 10 cents an hour for coding benefits the state?
I'm fucking done with you putting words in my mouth.
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I'm fucking done with you putting words in my mouth.
MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:10 PM
>As do they here. Just in different ways.
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The only place that's happening is in Florida, and I already said that DeSantis is a corpratist fascist.
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>As do they here. Just in different ways.
I didn't spell out those ways... you took it upon yourself to do it for me. We're done with this conversation.
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I didn't spell out those ways... you took it upon yourself to do it for me. We're done with this conversation.
MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:11 PM
Alright, fine.
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All I'll say is if it makes you a little less disgusted with me, I think we need better consumer protection laws to protect us from shitty products like this. https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/108q4c2/a_selfdriving_tesla_that_abruptly_stopped_on_the/
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Any group of power will work with whoever will work with them. (edited)
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I do not see the wisdom in stating corperations are uniquely predisposed to working with fascism.
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Or that the left is uniquely predisposed to fighting it because it fights corperations.
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Any group of power will work with whoever will work with them. (edited)
Unless they believe they don't owe those people any say. Which is where we're at. Elon Musk doesn't give a fuck, Besos doesn't give a fuck. Murdoch doesn't give a fuck. The Johnson family doesn't give a fuck. etc etc etc. (edited)
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Nobody ever gave a fuck.
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Yes that is a large exageration
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But by in large power works for its own sake.
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That is why having principles is important.
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Nobody ever gave a fuck.
So no group in power will ever work with anyone unless they are forced to do so. (exaggeration acknowledged)
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Forced to do so in order to gain a benefit is the only caveat i'd add to that statement.
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Very rarely are there exceptions to this.
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All I'll say is if it makes you a little less disgusted with me, I think we need better consumer protection laws to protect us from shitty products like this. https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/108q4c2/a_selfdriving_tesla_that_abruptly_stopped_on_the/
That's not why I'm upset with you. You want a pipe dream, I pity that... but it's a noble half goal even if it's not imo possible. I'm upset with you because you intentionally chose to misrepresent my statement to suit your argument. (edited)
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MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:24 PM
@Spinner I apologize but I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth or anything, I was just providing examples for my case in a rhetorical manner. I was being caustic, though. Might have been better not to do that.
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@Spinner I apologize but I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth or anything, I was just providing examples for my case in a rhetorical manner. I was being caustic, though. Might have been better not to do that.
Accepted.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/10/2023 8:26 PM
Much as I hate political arguments, I'm glad we can have them here without devolving into insults like everywhere else.
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As for regulation. Baby powder is still sold... and it's giving women cancer and killing them. When that is stopped... I might admit there is potential to regulate capitalism to a degree. I still won't be convinced it can be regulated to the degree necessary to save ourselves from it. It's still fast tracking us to starvation and exposure death.
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All I'll say is if it makes you a little less disgusted with me, I think we need better consumer protection laws to protect us from shitty products like this. https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/108q4c2/a_selfdriving_tesla_that_abruptly_stopped_on_the/
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/10/2023 8:26 PM
teslas may be safe for their drivers(when they're not becoming mobile nalpalm bombs) but they sure as hell are not safe for literally everyone else
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teslas may be safe for their drivers(when they're not becoming mobile nalpalm bombs) but they sure as hell are not safe for literally everyone else
MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:27 PM
Tesla cars are like the baby seeking bullet from that WKUK sketch
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teslas may be safe for their drivers(when they're not becoming mobile nalpalm bombs) but they sure as hell are not safe for literally everyone else
On some level with their drivers they are excellent chlorine for the gene pool however. Case in point, the dude who got in the back seat to let the autopilot chauffer him and his best friend around.
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On some level with their drivers they are excellent chlorine for the gene pool however. Case in point, the dude who got in the back seat to let the autopilot chauffer him and his best friend around.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/10/2023 8:28 PM
you saw that dumbass that fell asleep on the AUTOBAHN while on automatic pilot mode?
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the guy was going 60 in a zone where people go double that speed
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On some level with their drivers they are excellent chlorine for the gene pool however. Case in point, the dude who got in the back seat to let the autopilot chauffer him and his best friend around.
MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:28 PM
Has anybody died while fucking in an autopilot Tesla yet?
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you saw that dumbass that fell asleep on the AUTOBAHN while on automatic pilot mode?
No but I'll bet it was hillarious.
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Has anybody died while fucking in an autopilot Tesla yet?
I've not heard of it, but it would only prove my point explicitly.
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No but I'll bet it was hillarious.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/10/2023 8:29 PM
the cops were RIGHT besides him, blaring the sirens and this guy was having a snooooze
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MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:29 PM
See imo calling it "autopilot" is false advertisement because it's actually just "autosteer" in that the car steers itself along google maps routes. It's not like planes that got sensors and shit so they don't crash into each other.
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As for regulation. Baby powder is still sold... and it's giving women cancer and killing them. When that is stopped... I might admit there is potential to regulate capitalism to a degree. I still won't be convinced it can be regulated to the degree necessary to save ourselves from it. It's still fast tracking us to starvation and exposure death.
This actually gets into a very interesting point. Although one may assume capitalists are uniquely predisposed to polluting the environment and making bad products, I'd actually attribute to the industrialization of society. (No, not in that eco fascists sense, I mean the upscaling of industry and degree in which we produce waste.) I don't think simply getting rid of capitalism for some type of socialism would be a solution for this reason, nor do I think we have the time to do it. I do massive change needs to be made at the industrial level though (I wont be able to respond for a while) (edited)
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See imo calling it "autopilot" is false advertisement because it's actually just "autosteer" in that the car steers itself along google maps routes. It's not like planes that got sensors and shit so they don't crash into each other.
Actually it does use video visualization to know surrounding obstacles like cars.
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I think it also has a millimeter wave radar fore and aft to know following distances and calculate closing speed.
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As for regulation. Baby powder is still sold... and it's giving women cancer and killing them. When that is stopped... I might admit there is potential to regulate capitalism to a degree. I still won't be convinced it can be regulated to the degree necessary to save ourselves from it. It's still fast tracking us to starvation and exposure death.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/10/2023 8:32 PM
isn't nestle fucking up children in africa and asia with baby formula with propaganda tactics they got in trouble with decades ago?
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This actually gets into a very interesting point. Although one may assume capitalists are uniquely predisposed to polluting the environment and making bad products, I'd actually attribute to the industrialization of society. (No, not in that eco fascists sense, I mean the upscaling of industry and degree in which we produce waste.) I don't think simply getting rid of capitalism for some type of socialism would be a solution for this reason, nor do I think we have the time to do it. I do massive change needs to be made at the industrial level though (I wont be able to respond for a while) (edited)
MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:32 PM
That reminds of this thread I saw where some tankie was like "CAN YOU IMAGINE IF CHERNOBYL HAPPENED IN A CAPITALIST COUNTRY?!" And multiple people pointed out that "Chernobyl" did happen in capitalist countries several times, and each time was way way WAY less catastrophic than what happened in the USSR, although the Chernobyl disaster wasn't just communism but a whole load of human failures, one of the most overlooked ones being that it was a Russian plant operating in Ukraine and the RSFSR didn't give a fuck what happened in Ukraine so they didn't care about doing everything right.
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See imo calling it "autopilot" is false advertisement because it's actually just "autosteer" in that the car steers itself along google maps routes. It's not like planes that got sensors and shit so they don't crash into each other.
And technically speaking a plane autopilot doesn't use anything to locate air traffic. Autolanding systems don't either, they rely on a signal from the approach tower control center to guide themselves in as well as on board instruments.
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isn't nestle fucking up children in africa and asia with baby formula with propaganda tactics they got in trouble with decades ago?
Wouldn't surprise me.
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MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:33 PM
Like he pointed to the Fukashima (I spelled that wrong I bet) plant disaster and was like "HUNDREDS DIED OF RADIATION" when in reality arguably one person died of radiation and that might not actually even be what happened to him because he was really old and a heavy smoker.
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Like he pointed to the Fukashima (I spelled that wrong I bet) plant disaster and was like "HUNDREDS DIED OF RADIATION" when in reality arguably one person died of radiation and that might not actually even be what happened to him because he was really old and a heavy smoker.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/10/2023 8:33 PM
YEAH NO SHIT THERE WAS A DISASTER, A FUCKING TSUNAMI HIT IT
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MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:33 PM
And like he was in the shit it was an old dude who knew he didn't have much longer on earth so he decided to volunteer.
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That reminds of this thread I saw where some tankie was like "CAN YOU IMAGINE IF CHERNOBYL HAPPENED IN A CAPITALIST COUNTRY?!" And multiple people pointed out that "Chernobyl" did happen in capitalist countries several times, and each time was way way WAY less catastrophic than what happened in the USSR, although the Chernobyl disaster wasn't just communism but a whole load of human failures, one of the most overlooked ones being that it was a Russian plant operating in Ukraine and the RSFSR didn't give a fuck what happened in Ukraine so they didn't care about doing everything right.
Chernobyl happened because it was one of the first ever reactors, and first of it's kind, and nuclear power design was in it's infancy. It's less about the type of government and more about the level of understanding we had as humans using the technology.
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YEAH NO SHIT THERE WAS A DISASTER, A FUCKING TSUNAMI HIT IT
MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:34 PM
I got accused of working for "big nuclear" when I pointed out that almost every modern nuclear power plant is ridiculously safe to the point where it's impossible for a Chernobyl situation to happen again. I'm like "big nuclear, who the fuck is that?"
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I got accused of working for "big nuclear" when I pointed out that almost every modern nuclear power plant is ridiculously safe to the point where it's impossible for a Chernobyl situation to happen again. I'm like "big nuclear, who the fuck is that?"
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/10/2023 8:35 PM
bro, nuclear is SUFFERING
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MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:35 PM
Nuclear power doesn't have Exxon mobile making shit up to make their fuck ups look better lmao.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/10/2023 8:35 PM
let that industry shine goddamn it
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I got accused of working for "big nuclear" when I pointed out that almost every modern nuclear power plant is ridiculously safe to the point where it's impossible for a Chernobyl situation to happen again. I'm like "big nuclear, who the fuck is that?"
Ironically the safest reactors are the ones not owned by corporations. They are operated by the US Navy.
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Ironically the safest reactors are the ones not owned by corporations. They are operated by the US Navy.
MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:36 PM
Jimmy Carter once rappelled into a navy nuclear reactor to keep it from going critical.
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That's pretty based
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Nuclear power doesn't have Exxon mobile making shit up to make their fuck ups look better lmao.
To be fair... the BOP (Blow out Preventer) used in that disaster was a piece of shit sourced through Halliburton. One of the most notoriously evil corporations on earth (if you include their parent company Kellogg Brown and Root, and their fellow subsidiaries).
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That's pretty based
That's literally just Navy training.
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To be fair... the BOP (Blow out Preventer) used in that disaster was a piece of shit sourced through Halliburton. One of the most notoriously evil corporations on earth (if you include their parent company Kellogg Brown and Root, and their fellow subsidiaries).
MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:37 PM
But like how many people have died from US nuclear disasters? Like, three I think.
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Nobody died at 3 Mile Island, but ask anybody about it and they'll be like "oh didn't like 450 people die?"
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MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:38 PM
Coal kills WAY more people than nuclear does when it works properly.
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Nobody died at 3 Mile Island, but ask anybody about it and they'll be like "oh didn't like 450 people die?"
Outright died from the meltdown... few... but you have extremists like me to thank for that... if it weren't for anarchists in the 20th century there would be no OSHA, and none of the safety conditions that saved lives would have been instituted.
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URAAAAAANIUM FEEVER
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But if you account for radiation effects from the meltdowns... how many people's lives were shortened and died of cancer because of them?
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Outright died from the meltdown... few... but you have extremists like me to thank for that... if it weren't for anarchists in the 20th century there would be no OSHA, and none of the safety conditions that saved lives would have been instituted.
MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:40 PM
Have anarchists ever targeted nuclear power plants for sabatoge or was it only Atomic Waffle that did that
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Have anarchists ever targeted nuclear power plants for sabatoge or was it only Atomic Waffle that did that
Never... but we did kill a VP who was trying to kill any movement on labor rights and workplace safety.
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But if you account for radiation effects from the meltdowns... how many people's lives were shortened and died of cancer because of them?
MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:41 PM
idk if that was tracked. Only incident I know of that was tracked was Ben Hur which was less a nuclear disaster and more "Wouldn't it be funny if we had John Wayne run around an atomic weapons test site for a few months?"
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Which to be fair yeah, that was kind of funny.
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Or was it another movie? I know John Wayne wore a shitty beard and got cancer, that's all I remember.
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idk if that was tracked. Only incident I know of that was tracked was Ben Hur which was less a nuclear disaster and more "Wouldn't it be funny if we had John Wayne run around an atomic weapons test site for a few months?"
It probably hasn't been tracked properly. The people responsible for doing so were and are all insane from the levels of lead they ingested.
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Have anarchists ever targeted nuclear power plants for sabatoge or was it only Atomic Waffle that did that
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/10/2023 8:43 PM
that would be antithetical to like… almost everything we believe in
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Or was it another movie? I know John Wayne wore a shitty beard and got cancer, that's all I remember.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/10/2023 8:43 PM
It was The Conqueror.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/10/2023 8:43 PM
ecological destruction, victimization of workers, massive government crackdown on anarchism would only be a few of the consequences in a worst case scenario.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
It was The Conqueror.
MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:44 PM
Right! John Wayne was Atilla the Hun or something like that. The movie was like four hours long and it suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/10/2023 8:44 PM
Someone thought it was a good idea to get John Wayne to play Genghis freaking Khan.
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Right! John Wayne was Atilla the Hun or something like that. The movie was like four hours long and it suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked
Like all John Wayne movies.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/10/2023 8:44 PM
and also it would be pointless considering the DEA has actual fucking death squads at nuclear plants
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Someone thought it was a good idea to get John Wayne to play Genghis freaking Khan.
MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:44 PM
Ghengis Kahn, my mistake.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/10/2023 8:44 PM
like they’re trained and expect to die in a fight
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MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:44 PM
I AM THE FLAIL OF GOD, PILGRIM
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IF YOU DIDN'T WANT THIS PUNISHMENT BESET UPON YOU YOU WOULD NOT HAVE ANGERED GOD, PILGRIM
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CIRCLE THE YURTS, PILGRIM
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/10/2023 8:44 PM
i fear the DEA nuclear protection agents more than any army SOF cause those guys fucking expect to sue
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Someone thought it was a good idea to get John Wayne to play Genghis freaking Khan.
See my statement about lead poisoning.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/10/2023 8:45 PM
Which is kind of funny considering the Duke's track record of being a massive racist.
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MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:45 PM
Audie Murphy was way cooler (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Which is kind of funny considering the Duke's track record of being a massive racist.
Also see my statement about lead poisoning.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/10/2023 8:45 PM
Boy did finding that out put a damper on my childhood.
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MisterStompy 1/10/2023 8:45 PM
Audie Murphy died in a plane crash like a real man.
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And he killed like 200 Nazis or something, too
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
i fear the DEA nuclear protection agents more than any army SOF cause those guys fucking expect to sue
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/10/2023 8:46 PM
i mean DOE lmao
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/10/2023 8:50 PM
My grandparents met John Wayne and always tell me he was super nice to them. I now realize that was likely because they were white.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/10/2023 9:19 PM
By Luke Broadwater and Catie Edmondson
Republicans pushed through a measure to create a powerful new committee to scrutinize what they have charged is an effort by the government to target and silence conservatives.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/10/2023 9:37 PM
so an investigation into use of the federal government against people they like
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BubsyFanboy 1/11/2023 3:21 AM
https://cyberdefence24-pl.translate.goog/polityka-i-prawo/falszywy-telefon-rosyjskich-pranksterow-do-prezydenta-jedna-osoba-stracila-stanowisko?_x_tr_sl=pl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pl&_x_tr_pto=wapp
In mid-November 2022, the President of the Republic of Poland, Andrzej Duda, spoke with two pranksters who impersonated French President Emmauel Macron. The exchange lasted more than seven minutes, although the Presidential Palace claimed that Andrzej Duda realized that "there may have been an attempt at fraud." However, the person who was supposed to be responsible for this connection lost his position.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/11/2023 12:13 PM
The Roberts court is famously anti-union. With Glacier Northwest v. Teamsters, it’s poised to make it easier for employers to sue striking workers.
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alright, to teamsters should absolute do it the old fashioned way armed protests and open sabotaged of the workplace
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also
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Nassau County GOP is calling for the resignation of Santos, calling the house of reps "disgraced"
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alright time to get more popcorn
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AarborneDivision 1/11/2023 3:30 PM
Do you want wildcat strikes? This is how you get wildcat strikes.
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that's my point
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or a mafia
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and wildcat strikes are more damaging to a business long term
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AarborneDivision 1/11/2023 4:10 PM
Truly though. It'll always be funny to me that companies will do whatever they can to clamp down on legal strikes. As though striking is not the diplomatic solution.
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I swear to god, corpos are trying to clamp down on a legal action and end up bringing back a old criminal enterprises with their actions
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like HBOMax purging their shit *Oof, you brought back digital piracy back to golden age numbers again
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/11/2023 4:36 PM
Terribly sorry for the Rant, but, The Tik tok/Youtube shorts method of content is unironically dangerous as shit, one day I started with the usual stuff, content related to the games I play, pretty funny jokes with gta gameplay as background, the works, by midday it started getting into those '15 facts you didn't know' with the minecraft gameplay and more mainstream comedians and by the end of the day i got a fucking BEN SHAPIRO SHORT, i did the smart thing and blocked his channel content, although i'm sure that does jackshit, and got out of the shorts section of yt
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I must also say, that before getting it, I was getting one or two shorts on tbe whole baby its cold outside thing, so I should have seen the warning signs
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AarborneDivision 1/11/2023 5:12 PM
Absolutely. The alt right pipeline thrives on this sort of thing. I've seen creators document getting from regular self help videos to Andrew Tate's brand of misogyny in under an hour
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/11/2023 5:16 PM
It's the reason I keep posting these people in #fascists-online. I want to warn people away from these fucks.
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Algorithm rightwing bias exists
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/11/2023 6:09 PM
Interesting thing I just saw. Most of the conservative right is blaming the recent substation attacks on feds and cops - can y’all think of any way we can spin this for our advantage? (edited)
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Absolutely. The alt right pipeline thrives on this sort of thing. I've seen creators document getting from regular self help videos to Andrew Tate's brand of misogyny in under an hour
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/11/2023 6:11 PM
I think it’s because a fuck ton of tiny “motivation” channels repost it
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Interesting thing I just saw. Most of the conservative right is blaming the recent substation attacks on feds and cops - can y’all think of any way we can spin this for our advantage? (edited)
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/11/2023 6:12 PM
"Why back the blue? They don't back you."
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Or something similar.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
I think it’s because a fuck ton of tiny “motivation” channels repost it
AarborneDivision 1/11/2023 6:12 PM
Yup. Same story as Jordan Peterson. Man masquerades as a "centrist" while spouting far right ideology and cloaking it in self help rhetoric
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/11/2023 6:18 PM
and what’s extra unfortunate is that his self help stuff is actually kinda good
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so it lends him credibility
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AIF Cuirassier regiment
Terribly sorry for the Rant, but, The Tik tok/Youtube shorts method of content is unironically dangerous as shit, one day I started with the usual stuff, content related to the games I play, pretty funny jokes with gta gameplay as background, the works, by midday it started getting into those '15 facts you didn't know' with the minecraft gameplay and more mainstream comedians and by the end of the day i got a fucking BEN SHAPIRO SHORT, i did the smart thing and blocked his channel content, although i'm sure that does jackshit, and got out of the shorts section of yt
MisterStompy 1/11/2023 6:41 PM
The amount of Mosley shit on TikTok is baffling. He's the least effective fascist that ever existed, and when your competition for that is Mussolini that's saying something. Why is he the one so many people are trying to recruit zoomers with? (edited)
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FASCISM WILL CRUSH THE WEAK AND THE DEGENERATES fascism when it clashes with weak degenerates
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The amount of Mosley shit on TikTok is baffling. He's the least effective fascist that ever existed, and when your competition for that is Mussolini that's saying something. Why is he the one so many people are trying to recruit zoomers with? (edited)
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/11/2023 6:43 PM
my closest guess is that they use mosley because he's the least crusty out of all of the famous fascists
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/11/2023 6:44 PM
oh god mentioning mosley gives me flashbacks
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AIF Cuirassier regiment
my closest guess is that they use mosley because he's the least crusty out of all of the famous fascists
MisterStompy 1/11/2023 6:44 PM
Maybe. I'm just used to getting into scuffles with Nazi skinheads who try their best to look threatening and evil. I guess now their thing is they want to look like wimps?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/11/2023 6:44 PM
tik tok fetuses will support the most insane people just because they look 'cute'
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/11/2023 6:44 PM
i play a game which had a server hosted by a gay furry mosleyite (yes i know it’s contradictory af)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/11/2023 6:44 PM
or conventionally atractive
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tik tok fetuses will support the most insane people just because they look 'cute'
MisterStompy 1/11/2023 6:45 PM
--that explains why they're using Ben Shapiro-- (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/11/2023 6:45 PM
dude was smoothbrained enough to temporarily transfer control of the server to an antifascist for a reason i forgot
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i play a game which had a server hosted by a gay furry mosleyite (yes i know it’s contradictory af)
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/11/2023 6:45 PM
its a strange subsection of the Nazi bunch
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/11/2023 6:45 PM
based guy fucking nuked the server and its code
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/11/2023 6:45 PM
LMAOO
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deserved
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
i play a game which had a server hosted by a gay furry mosleyite (yes i know it’s contradictory af)
MisterStompy 1/11/2023 6:45 PM
Garry's Mod? That sounds like Garry's Mod
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/11/2023 6:45 PM
space station 13
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MisterStompy 1/11/2023 6:46 PM
Oh
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There's like 40 Brony roleplay servers on GMod and 40 SS roleplay servers on GMod and sometimes they coalesce.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/11/2023 6:46 PM
bruh
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/11/2023 6:47 PM
bro why has MLP stuck around so much with adult fanbases?? (and in the wrong way might I add)
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SOMETHING'S NOT RIGHT WHEN ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR HOI4 MOD IS A FUCKING BRONY MOD
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MisterStompy 1/11/2023 6:48 PM
One of the SS servers was helmed by a clan called "NSGaming" and for a while they were getting trolled really hard by several different griefing groups. After a while NSGaming made a statement on either the Steam or Facepunch forums that they weren't Nazis and it's all historians messing around. Somebody asked what the "NS" in NSGaming stood for and the representative was like "absolutely NOT national socialism!!!"
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SOMETHING'S NOT RIGHT WHEN ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR HOI4 MOD IS A FUCKING BRONY MOD
MisterStompy 1/11/2023 6:49 PM
The first wave of the alt right remind me a lot of bronies (and to a lesser extent 07'/'08 furries). (edited)
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Bronies back in like 2012/2013 when the fandom was at it's peak would never shut the fuck up about My Little Pony and would go into completely unrelated topics and try to make it about MLP.
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Every meme turned into a pony meme, every character got a pony version of it, every game had somebody saying they were making a pony mod. Every YouTube video had a brony commenting "wow this is like such and such episode of MLP" when it would be literally nothing like it.
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There was like 500,000 MLP themed creepypastas, those were huge at the time as well.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/11/2023 6:51 PM
thank you mom, dad and past me for restricting my internet access to youtube (edited)
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MisterStompy 1/11/2023 6:51 PM
It's the same thing with the Alt Right. If somebody was Alt Right, every single piece of media that was discussed at any corner of the internet had some fucking goofball coming in and saying "oh this is about how the Jews are feminizing white men" or something.
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Like the movie They Live was somehow misconstrued as a story about the white man fighting back against communism and capitalism, and the alien people or whatever symbolized Jews. This ignores the fact that it's not just a white guy who revolts, it's also a black guy alongside him and they frequently get accused of being communists by the media.
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It's the same thing with the Alt Right. If somebody was Alt Right, every single piece of media that was discussed at any corner of the internet had some fucking goofball coming in and saying "oh this is about how the Jews are feminizing white men" or something.
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MisterStompy 1/11/2023 6:54 PM
And one of the scenes in the movie goes directly against their whole "make millions of white babies right now" thing. When Roddy Piper gets the sunglasses for the first time, he looks at a billboard for some cigarette ad that had a sexy woman in it or something and the hidden message is "MARRY AND REPRODUCE", which means that the supposed "Jews" were trying to get white people to make a bunch of babies, but if that was the case then this whole white genocide thing is bullshit, right?
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I mean for fuck's sake how can you look at a movie of a white guy and a black guy teaming up and think "this is clearly about slaughtering Jews to create an Aryan ethnostate"
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/11/2023 6:56 PM
i was a brony and alt-right and i don’t think those two were entirely separate
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can i remember a connection? fuck no
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but i think there may have been
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i was a brony and alt-right and i don’t think those two were entirely separate
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/11/2023 6:57 PM
congrats on getting out of that
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/11/2023 6:58 PM
thank ya
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but i think there may have been
MisterStompy 1/11/2023 6:58 PM
That's because in 2015 the mods on 4Chan wanted to fuck with both the Bronies and the Alt Right by merging the /pol/ and /mlp/ boards together so that they'd essentially kill each other off. The problem was they ended up getting along EXTREMELY well. This led to an actual unironic website called "mlpol" to be created. It's still around iirc. This is there logo. It's not a joke. They're serious. (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/11/2023 6:58 PM
What the fuck
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
thank ya
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/11/2023 6:58 PM
honestly, I beleave we should celebrate people who get out of bullshit like that
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/11/2023 6:59 PM
I think I was very lucky in that I was really too young to truly believe in it
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I was just a dumbass 13 year old nodding along because they sounded right
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MisterStompy 1/11/2023 6:59 PM
The cartoon series My Little Pony is beloved of little girls and grown men alike. In My Nationalist Pony, "brony" blogger Buttercup Dew gives a New Rightist reading to My Little Pony, arguing that it in addition to its wholesome stories of friendship and self-acceptance the series is implicitly Eurocentric, pagan, and deeply conservative.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/11/2023 6:59 PM
It was all mimicry
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MisterStompy 1/11/2023 7:00 PM
"the series is implicitly eurocentric, pagan, and deeply conservative"
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/11/2023 7:01 PM
.....normally i'm not one for book burning.....but
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honestly, I beleave we should celebrate people who get out of bullshit like that
MisterStompy 1/11/2023 7:01 PM
I've noticed a huge problem with a lot of the left is they refuse to let former Nazis work with them and instead just go "this you?" and bring up stuff from like 10 years ago whenever there's a minor disagreement.
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I've noticed a huge problem with a lot of the left is they refuse to let former Nazis work with them and instead just go "this you?" and bring up stuff from like 10 years ago whenever there's a minor disagreement.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/11/2023 7:01 PM
we have a REALLY big problem thanks to social media FUCKING TWITTER where we beleave people CANNOT change no matter what
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I'll be completely honest with you, I fucking hate elon but he's getting a pat on the back if he destroys twitter, followed by a punch to the face
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a sort of "I hate you but thank you"
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MisterStompy 1/11/2023 7:06 PM
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/11/2023 7:07 PM
whatthefuckiswrongwithyougif
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MisterStompy 1/11/2023 7:07 PM
What's funny is apparently the Nazi Bronies and the Nazi Furries fucking hate each other.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/11/2023 7:07 PM
why is she blushing
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What's funny is apparently the Nazi Bronies and the Nazi Furries fucking hate each other.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/11/2023 7:08 PM
not surprised
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normally they don't overlap
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/11/2023 7:08 PM
furries and bronies usually hate each other anyways
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MisterStompy 1/11/2023 7:08 PM
Speaking of Nazi furries like look, no kinkshaming here but you're a fucking furry alright, the last thing you get to do is call gay people degenerates.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/11/2023 7:09 PM
yeah it’s really funny
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Speaking of Nazi furries like look, no kinkshaming here but you're a fucking furry alright, the last thing you get to do is call gay people degenerates.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/11/2023 7:09 PM
.....you cannot beleave how on point you are
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/11/2023 7:09 PM
especially since they’ll also often have the weirdest fucking kinks. don’t ask how i know
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/11/2023 7:09 PM
you hit a fucking bullseye my guy
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
especially since they’ll also often have the weirdest fucking kinks. don’t ask how i know
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/11/2023 7:09 PM
nazi furries that is
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especially since they’ll also often have the weirdest fucking kinks. don’t ask how i know
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/11/2023 7:10 PM
i get you
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/11/2023 7:11 PM
MLP creators be like
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
nazi furries that is
MisterStompy 1/11/2023 7:13 PM
Nazi Furries are getting banned from Elon's Twitter faster than regular Nazis because on top of the anti-semitism and anti LGBT stuff, they post really fucked up art of huskies in SS uniforms.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/11/2023 7:22 PM
not even historically accurate 💀
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fun fact, huskies are one of the hardest dogs to train
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MisterStompy 1/11/2023 7:25 PM
With this last post I'm done with the subject for now.
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But seriously the non-Nazi furries are always like, crazy wealthy because they have these high prestige jobs. Like you look at a regular non fascist furry account and it's always like "Foxkin, He/Him, Nuclear Physicist"
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/11/2023 7:28 PM
its an expensive hobby
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MisterStompy 1/11/2023 7:28 PM
Which you know obviously I have no choice to admire because I didn't even get an English degree lmao, how am I gonna be an Aeronautics engineer or something?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/11/2023 7:28 PM
apparently a well made suit costs the same as a fucking honda accord
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those are really nice cars
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AvoidOblivion 1/11/2023 7:29 PM
I believe it. Needs to be well insulated, properly fitted, made to certain specifications, etc.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/11/2023 7:30 PM
I wonder which one is the most expensive hobby, car enthusiasm, gun enthusiasm, funco pop collector or furry
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cus
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you gotta maintain it right???
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Unintended side effect is, this would delegitimize right to work legislation.
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I wonder which one is the most expensive hobby, car enthusiasm, gun enthusiasm, funco pop collector or furry
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/11/2023 7:51 PM
i’m a furry and i’ve only spent like $150 on it lmao
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/11/2023 7:51 PM
lmao good
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/11/2023 7:51 PM
one of my friends is getting a suit but that’s because he’s a fucking rocket engineer so he has the money for it
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
one of my friends is getting a suit but that’s because he’s a fucking rocket engineer so he has the money for it
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/11/2023 7:52 PM
can your friend lend some cash? Joking
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But seriously the non-Nazi furries are always like, crazy wealthy because they have these high prestige jobs. Like you look at a regular non fascist furry account and it's always like "Foxkin, He/Him, Nuclear Physicist"
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/11/2023 7:53 PM
there’s a whole trope of suspiciously wealthy furries
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guys who will get $200 art pieces on the daily
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apparently a well made suit costs the same as a fucking honda accord
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/11/2023 7:54 PM
an average one will be a thousand to a few thousand but there are some with electronics integration that will cost near 10 grand
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protogens and the like which have screens for faces
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
there’s a whole trope of suspiciously wealthy furries
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/11/2023 9:08 PM
how many corrupt politicans are furries 🤔
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Thoughts?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/11/2023 9:22 PM
i never believed in psychic stuff (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/11/2023 9:29 PM
cops act like they’re psychics anyways
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Thoughts?
There is more about the brain that we don't know than do. There are billions of electrical connections in the brain that are influenced by wavelengths of energy we know about and can detect, and we don't know a fraction of what effects those have on brain processing. There are quantum connections we can hypothesize but cannot test, and some we can... enough to prove we don't know a tiny fraction of what we possibly someday can. The presence of the supernatural existed culturally within humans before we were humans. The existence of psychics may or may not be fact... we just don't know enough yet to prove it... but we know the government did illegal experiments on people trying to figure it out for decades. But a psychic that works with cops, is either a based fraud (milking money from that corrupt system), or a fucking traitor.
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There is more about the brain that we don't know than do. There are billions of electrical connections in the brain that are influenced by wavelengths of energy we know about and can detect, and we don't know a fraction of what effects those have on brain processing. There are quantum connections we can hypothesize but cannot test, and some we can... enough to prove we don't know a tiny fraction of what we possibly someday can. The presence of the supernatural existed culturally within humans before we were humans. The existence of psychics may or may not be fact... we just don't know enough yet to prove it... but we know the government did illegal experiments on people trying to figure it out for decades. But a psychic that works with cops, is either a based fraud (milking money from that corrupt system), or a fucking traitor.
what did those government experiments prove?
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what did those government experiments prove?
That some people had aptitudes that vastly outstrip statistical chance. But that drugs cannot force that to occur.
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They illegally dosed people with psychoactive substances in order to study the increase in potential for psychic ability.
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The legal sides of the experiments showed that some people did display a far higher than statistical chance at "guessing" information they shouldn't know. But even these didn't prove a whole lot, since we later figured out that some people can be trained to become human lie detectors.
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our brains pick up small red flags subconsciously
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its likely for some that being on psychoactive shit can "heighten" that. Probably tied with the occasional increased paranoia
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This could be fun; prep for secession from Russia
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/12/2023 8:32 AM
oh
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AarborneDivision 1/12/2023 10:58 AM
"Wait no it's only okay when breakaway states want to join US"
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Aaron Rouse's victory in the state Senate race comes as Gov. Glenn Youngkin, a Republican, is calling on the Legislature to pass a bill to ban abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy.
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MisterStompy 1/12/2023 1:56 PM
Me: I HATE secessionists and traitors! Also Me: Ingush Republic my beloved
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"Wait no it's only okay when breakaway states want to join US"
MisterStompy 1/12/2023 1:56 PM
West Alaska but real.
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Me: I HATE secessionists and traitors! Also Me: Ingush Republic my beloved
AvoidOblivion 1/12/2023 2:06 PM
There’s a difference between seceding to continue enslaving other humans (Confeda-losers), and seceding because your government has committed genocide against your people and is engaged in a bloody war.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/12/2023 4:00 PM
Amazon now has a legal obligation to bargain with the union, and can face serious penalties if it doesn't.
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BubsyFanboy 1/12/2023 4:21 PM
I was about to text out how this could just be like an independent Chechnya, but nope - he condemns all genocide.
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The question of LGBT+ rights is still in the air for it, but so far they make a good impression.
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The question of LGBT+ rights is still in the air for it, but so far they make a good impression.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/12/2023 4:22 PM
one step at a time
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/12/2023 5:04 PM
is the new york post pro or against biden
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is the new york post pro or against biden
MisterStompy 1/12/2023 6:05 PM
It's basically a tabloid magazine. It's really neither.
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They just report sensational stuff regardless of political leaning for wacky headlines.
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It's officially "conservative" but it will gladly report conservative fuckups if they're crazy enough.
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MisterStompy 1/12/2023 7:26 PM
Also, it looks like the Afghanistan Taliban is giving Pakistan's taliban some of the equipment the ANA abandoned, which means that hilariously, the US is indirectly arming the Pakistani Taliban against Pakistan, just as Pakistan aided the Afghanistan Taliban.
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Also, it looks like the Afghanistan Taliban is giving Pakistan's taliban some of the equipment the ANA abandoned, which means that hilariously, the US is indirectly arming the Pakistani Taliban against Pakistan, just as Pakistan aided the Afghanistan Taliban.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
MisterStompy 1/12/2023 7:29 PM
Blowback is a bitch.
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You can say that again
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And Pakistan should have learned how big of a mistake this was the last time the Taliban were in power
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MisterStompy 1/12/2023 8:10 PM
HUNTER BIDEN IS GONNA BANG MCCARTHY'S MOM
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It would only be more perfect if it included a cocaine binge weekend in the Hamptons.
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With pics and maybe a leaked tape to pornhub.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/12/2023 8:22 PM
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may the public humiliations of McCarthy begin
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BubsyFanboy 1/13/2023 4:25 AM
In Missouri - no joke - the GOP-dominated state legislature wants to ban the right to bare arms. No. Not bear arms. Bare arms. They want a dress code that would ban female legislators from wearing clothes that reveal their arms. 🤯🤬 https://t.co/bRBOWzNVOd
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Ironically there's half a chance their own party might be "no" because horny
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is this guy known fash or something?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/13/2023 3:27 PM
wouldn't be surprised
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Florida Man is a plural entity with a super power. One superpower... coexisting in multiple places at the same time.
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And it makes up nearly all of the male population of Florida, and some of the female population as well.
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And it makes up nearly all of the male population of Florida, and some of the female population as well.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/13/2023 4:56 PM
Florida man and florida woman are two separate entities of extreme likeness
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Florida man and florida woman are two separate entities of extreme likeness
I don't know... I think the entity is both... the similarities are too strong.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/13/2023 4:58 PM
Fair point Dr Spinner...
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the specimen either way plaguds all of florida
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Fair point Dr Spinner...
I'm open to being wrong, but the terrifying ramifications of two such entities... makes me shiver.
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I can't believe the GOP is trying to kick a veteran of WWII, Korea and Vietnam out of its ranks. Major General George Santos does not deserve this kind of treatment. (edited)
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I don't know... I think the entity is both... the similarities are too strong.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/13/2023 5:57 PM
Florida man is beyond such mortal concepts as "gender". They are madness incarnate, chaos made flesh, lunacy made reality. Such concepts are meaningless to them. (edited)
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I can't believe the GOP is trying to kick a veteran of WWII, Korea and Vietnam out of its ranks. Major General George Santos does not deserve this kind of treatment. (edited)
He is the very model of a modern major general to be sure.
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Florida man is beyond such mortal concepts as "gender". They are madness incarnate, chaos made flesh, lunacy made reality. Such concepts are meaningless to them. (edited)
So what you are telling me is... Florida man is an avatar of Cthulu.
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So what you are telling me is... Florida man is an avatar of Cthulu.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/13/2023 6:03 PM
I was thinking more Nyarlathotep but that works too.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/13/2023 6:04 PM
We cannot fight it
6:05 PM
Every man, woman and child has a florida man inside of them
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I'll grant Nyarlathotep... as a more likely candidate for the origin of the avatar known as Florida Man.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/13/2023 6:09 PM
My thesis is that Florida man is a primal insticnt embeded deep within, a sort of insanity that will never leave us for as long as we live. It only comes to light whenever the human mind is under stress, or hardcore drugs, high or low temperatures also help bring out this side of humanity. The florida man in every one of us remains passive, making us do stupid shit from time to time, until it fully triggers, from that? there is no coming back
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Hitler is an avatar of Vishnu apparently
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According to some.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/13/2023 6:26 PM
Shane dawson is living proof that cancel culture does not work, the statement might have been repeated a billion times but its worth saying it
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What did he do?
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I know he's an OG YouTuber but not much else
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What did he do?
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/13/2023 6:31 PM
What hasn't he done?
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You tell me lol. I haven't seen him since like 2013
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Shane dawson is living proof that cancel culture does not work, the statement might have been repeated a billion times but its worth saying it
AvoidOblivion 1/13/2023 6:31 PM
Isn’t that the one who fucked his cat?
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That sounds familiar
6:31 PM
That does sound familiar
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/13/2023 6:31 PM
blackface(multiple times) Jokes about sexual assault on minors, the cat thing yes A fucking horrendous movie, ETC
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And was he ever arrested? Or banned from any sites? Or did his viewership or subscribers drop?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/13/2023 6:33 PM
he's STILL uploading after 3 horrible apologies that said nothing
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And was he ever arrested? Or banned from any sites? Or did his viewership or subscribers drop?
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/13/2023 6:33 PM
He still has a strong subscriber base to this day
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never arrested on any charges
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Bro even EDP still uploads, although no one likes him
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/13/2023 6:34 PM
never banned
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and he uploads on wack sites cuz YouTube banned him
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/13/2023 6:34 PM
yeah, thank fuck he's dying
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Me if he actually dies of kidney problems and this isn't just some publicity stunt in an attempt to cling to relevance
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And was he ever arrested? Or banned from any sites? Or did his viewership or subscribers drop?
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/13/2023 6:35 PM
What if I told you he directed and wrote a movie where a black homeless man eats his own shit and drinks his own piss
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I've heard of worse things happening irl in God forsaken places like Los Angeles or the NYC subway but what the hell is the point of the movie
6:36 PM
Was it supposed to be funny or something?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/13/2023 6:36 PM
it was supposed to be a comedy
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but its not funny
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its basically Racism and Rape funny
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mainly rape
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what do you expect from a man who did literal blackface
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Box office: 36,026 USD (US) Budget: 800,000 USD 14% Rotten Tomatoes 3.6/10 IMDb 3.8/5 Vudu 46% liked this movie (Google users)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/13/2023 6:40 PM
it bombed for a reason
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and this time the rotten tomatoes score is correct
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Over $750,000 lost
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Three quarters of a million dollars
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Wasted
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/13/2023 6:41 PM
What can I say man, Racist youtubers
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god/supernatural is real?
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i remember my christian mom did this once
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were we got a jar and put to apples in it. and one jar we said bad things to one apple. and another we said good things to.
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and the experiment seemed to work
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sooo
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Please some atheist give me an explanation debate me
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MisterStompy 1/13/2023 8:50 PM
BUCHAREST, Romania (AP) — A court in Romania’s capital Bucharest has rejected an appeal by the divisive social media personality Andrew Tate against asset seizures by prosecutors who are investigat…
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/13/2023 8:50 PM
LETS GOOO
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MisterStompy 1/13/2023 8:51 PM
"what color is your bugatti" more like what color is your prison cell
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/13/2023 9:53 PM
"I love raping you." Well, Tate, I'm sure your fellow inmates are going to love raping you as well.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/13/2023 10:39 PM
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/13/2023 10:44 PM
wow
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/14/2023 4:12 PM
New Hampshire bill - HB619 - would do just about everything that every anti trans bill does. Ban gender affirming care for trans youth... Force teachers to out them... Ban trans kids pronouns in schools... Ban them from sports and bathrooms... Ban insurance coverage... Its bad.
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NH House of Reps: 201 Reps 197 Dems 2 vacant NH Senate: 14 Reps 10 Dems
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Governor is also Republican
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MisterStompy 1/14/2023 6:52 PM
"Defending yourself from imperialism? CRINGE!"
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Top 20 Most Cringeworthy Zelensky PR Moments "Here are 20 of the cringiest moments of establishment PR using Zelensky to market the McProxy War to the western world, in no particular order." https://t.co/iPuS1Lm0bs
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Oh yeah also >McProxy war When this is all over and the United States occupies a good chunk of Russian landmass, we will replace all LADA factories with McDonalds restaraunts so she's half right. (edited)
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McDonalds restraunts staffed entirely by nonbinary employees.
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Gay tankies when they go to the Russian Federation and get lynched by NeoTsarist skinheads instead of being welcomed as a member of the rainbow proletariat https://twitter.com/TerceraVenida/status/1614270603610963971
@caitoz I've never seen a world leader exude more cringe
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I'd make a meme about that and post it on the IronFront subreddit but I A: lost my reddit password and B: imagine it would be a little much
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/14/2023 7:03 PM
NNNNOOOOOO not tthe doooog 😭
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NNNNOOOOOO not tthe doooog 😭
MisterStompy 1/14/2023 7:05 PM
bro ordered a fucking WPWW sweater for his dog
7:06 PM
jesus christ
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/14/2023 7:06 PM
I am fucking distraught
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get that dog out of there
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MisterStompy 1/14/2023 7:08 PM
Fuck it
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Functionally there's like zero difference between Neo Nazi skinheads and Neo Tsarist skinheads. Most Neo Tsarists started out as Neo Nazis or some other form of fascism but just got slightly different tattoos after Russia passed anti-Swastika bills and stuff.
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MisterStompy 1/14/2023 7:11 PM
Look up the Russian Imperial Legion, a Neo Tsarist militia that's going around Ukraine committing quite possibly even more war crimes than Wagner. Shortly before the war they had a massive rally in Moscow and Putin just kind of looked at it and went "okay"
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Fuck it
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/14/2023 7:11 PM
Thank you, I was about to make it myself to post it on another server
7:12 PM
People forget how fucking HORRENDOUS the Tsardom was
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Especially when we got to the 20th century. It was just awful.
7:14 PM
These guys made Chekists and KGB look like crossing guards https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okhrana
The Department for Protecting the Public Security and Order (Russian: Отделение по охранению общественной безопасности и порядка), usually called Guard Department (Russian: Охранное отделение) and commonly abbreviated in modern English sources as Okhrana (Russian: Охрана, IPA: [ɐˈxranə] (listen), lit. 'the guard') was a secret-police force of ...
7:15 PM
Let's not forget that the term "Pogrom" originated from the Russian Empire. Pogroms were the official state method of removing Jews from newly conquered territory.
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The only piece of popular media I can think of that deals with how bad the Tsardom was is Iron Storm, and that's like a weird alternate history where the Russian Empire merges with the German Empire during World War 1 and the coalition you play as isn't exactly better than them once you get below the surface so I can't exactly use that as a point of reference except to say "yeah their secret police was that fucking cruel".
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Seriously, there's tons of big movies, video games and songs about how bad the Soviets and the Nazis were, even the Imperial Japanese get their fair share of representation as being evil fucks more recently. Why do people just forget about the Russian Empire? I know they were on our side in WW1 but the Soviets were on our side in WW2. (edited)
7:20 PM
But yeah if you like early 2000's shooters that actually tried something different, check out Iron Storm. It has an amazing story that eventually reveals the whole thing was basically just 1984 - The FPS.
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MisterStompy 1/14/2023 7:58 PM
Were people like this on Tumblr as well, or is this just a Twitter thing? https://twitter.com/Cassandra_Nya/status/1613824972929236992
I genuinely don't understand why leftists hate Mussolini so much. I mean he wasn't perfect, but from everything I've seen he really wasn't that bad.
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Also even I hesitate to call this person a "leftist", becuase they refer to themselves as a "state socialist" which is uhhhhhhhhhh kinda weird but still. It's a trans person talking about how Mussolini was chill
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Oh fucking hell
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Also even I hesitate to call this person a "leftist", becuase they refer to themselves as a "state socialist" which is uhhhhhhhhhh kinda weird but still. It's a trans person talking about how Mussolini was chill
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/14/2023 8:04 PM
yknow what’s another word for a state?
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a nation
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MisterStompy 1/14/2023 8:04 PM
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/14/2023 8:04 PM
so in other words
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they’re a…
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MisterStompy 1/14/2023 8:04 PM
NO
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/14/2023 8:04 PM
national socialist!
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MisterStompy 1/14/2023 8:05 PM
NO IT'S TOTALLY SOMETHING ELSE
8:05 PM
Maybe they're a... social nationalist which is different, right?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/14/2023 8:05 PM
this is someone who called mussolini “not that bad” bro
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MisterStompy 1/14/2023 8:06 PM
I know I'm joking
8:06 PM
Strasserist Twitter is something else https://twitter.com/AltLeftRevolt
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Sources to learn more about Social Nationalist Politics. Institute for National Revolutionary Studies: https://t.co/EYprBgrz4c Revolutionary National Socialism https://t.co/UukBRrytJS Patriotic Socialist https://t.co/ZaTO839e3b #nationalbolshevism #strasserism
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"Social Nationalist Politics" HE FUCKING SAID IT
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Also yeah I figured the "Patsoc" thing was just part of the wider RedBrown spectrum.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/14/2023 8:07 PM
“revolutionary national socialism”
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national bolshevism
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“revolutionary national socialism”
MisterStompy 1/14/2023 8:08 PM
You know like the SA. Everybody knows they did great. Nothing bad happened to them.
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Like being a Neo Nazi is already cringe but a Neo SA Nazi like what?
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If you ever see a Strasserist don't punch them, stab them, they're used to that sort of thing by now.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/14/2023 8:09 PM
good thing is, everyone in the replies is clowning on him
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MisterStompy 1/14/2023 8:10 PM
The best part is he's talking shit about the trans strasserist when he's only mildly less bonkers
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Look up the Russian Imperial Legion, a Neo Tsarist militia that's going around Ukraine committing quite possibly even more war crimes than Wagner. Shortly before the war they had a massive rally in Moscow and Putin just kind of looked at it and went "okay"
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/14/2023 8:10 PM
The Russian Imperial Movement (RIM; Russian: Русское Имперское Движениe, romanized: Russkoe imperskoe dvizhenie, RID) is a Russian ultranationalist, white supremacist, far-right paramilitary organization which operates out of Russia.As of 2015, its leader is Stanislav Vorobyev. It has been designated as a terrorist group by the United States and...
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MisterStompy 1/14/2023 8:10 PM
Yes
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/14/2023 8:13 PM
Of course Russia refuses to designate them as a terrorist group.
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Also even I hesitate to call this person a "leftist", becuase they refer to themselves as a "state socialist" which is uhhhhhhhhhh kinda weird but still. It's a trans person talking about how Mussolini was chill
Ragebait account
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+ barely a month old
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MisterStompy 1/14/2023 8:34 PM
I'm not really "mad", more like a 1600's scientist seeing they don't understand so they attribute it to magic.
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I'm not really "mad", more like a 1600's scientist seeing they don't understand so they attribute it to magic.
Ahahahah
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Ever heard of Maga communism?
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I genuinely don't want to believe these people are real
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Ever heard of Maga communism?
MisterStompy 1/14/2023 8:36 PM
that's just national bolshevism
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Yeah but I can see someone subscribing to nazbol ideology
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Thinking that Trump will bring up communism though, how do you even get there
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Thinking that Trump will bring up communism though, how do you even get there
MisterStompy 1/14/2023 8:42 PM
Salvia?
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Maybe ketamine?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/14/2023 8:45 PM
This has to be a troll account.
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This has to be a troll account.
Yes it's definitely a ragebait account
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And people are falling for it lol
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As is way too often the case with twitter
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Yes it's definitely a ragebait account
MisterStompy 1/14/2023 8:48 PM
I mean Trans Strasserism does exist, but I also don't think this is legit
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There's still like a 10% chance though
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We are not immune to Poe's law sadly
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/14/2023 10:21 PM
A Florida judge has rejected a request by Gov. Ron DeSantis’ administration to dismiss a lawsuit filed after the state flew about 50 migrants from Texas to Massachusetts in September.
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Yes it's definitely a ragebait account
BubsyFanboy 1/15/2023 11:50 AM
Yeah. Thought it was a certain trans strasseranist I knew back when I was a PMC-head, but nah
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UK about to ban conversion therapy
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MisterStompy 1/15/2023 3:31 PM
authoritarian left 🤝 authoritarian right hating America yet refusing to go to the authoritarian dictatorships that they praise in its stead https://twitter.com/AttorneyFren/status/1614032620903628800 (edited)
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authoritarian left 🤝 authoritarian right hating America yet refusing to go to the authoritarian dictatorships that they praise in its stead https://twitter.com/AttorneyFren/status/1614032620903628800 (edited)
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/15/2023 3:34 PM
fun fact, the route of that high speed rail in china is actual DOGSHIT
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fun fact, the route of that high speed rail in china is actual DOGSHIT
MisterStompy 1/15/2023 3:35 PM
Plus that picture isn't even the Chinese high speed rail. It's Taiwan AKA Real China's rail.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/15/2023 3:35 PM
lmfao
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even worse
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MisterStompy 1/15/2023 3:40 PM
A triad (traditional Chinese: 三合會; simplified Chinese: 三合会; Jyutping: saam1 hap6 wui6‑2; Cantonese Yale: sāam hahp wúi; pinyin: sān hé huì) is a Chinese transnational organized crime syndicate based in Greater China with outposts in various countries having significant overseas Chinese diaspora populations. The Hong Kong triad is distinct from m...
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/15/2023 3:41 PM
hey the guys running it are fucking criminals
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wah_Ching These were the folks I had to deal with as a kid, their dai lao was the older brother of one of our worst high school bullies... same kid I kicked from the freethrow line to the half court line in a fight in PE.
Wah Ching (traditional Chinese: 華青; simplified Chinese: 华青; Jyutping: Waa4 Cing1), meaning Chinese Youth, is a Chinese American criminal organization and street gang that was founded in San Francisco, California in 1964. The Wah Ching has been involved in crimes including narcotic sales, racketeering and gambling.
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The story we got then was that Wah Ching were an intentional associate offshoot of Triads. (edited)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wah_Ching These were the folks I had to deal with as a kid, their dai lao was the older brother of one of our worst high school bullies... same kid I kicked from the freethrow line to the half court line in a fight in PE.
MisterStompy 1/15/2023 4:07 PM
The shitty thing is the right wing will romantacize Triads, Wah Ching and Yakuza because they're the "model minority" so they think that somehow makes them better than black gangs. Like no dude they're all fucking awful.
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I saw this thread where a right winger was like "The Yakuza don't do random drive by's so they're leagues better than the Bloods" like no dude the Yakuza traffic children and force them to star in child pornography instead, such honorful people.
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The shitty thing is the right wing will romantacize Triads, Wah Ching and Yakuza because they're the "model minority" so they think that somehow makes them better than black gangs. Like no dude they're all fucking awful.
I could literally attend backyard parties of both Latin and Black gangs without issue... and did. Wah Ching actively threatened my life for no reason other than making their kid brother loose face in front of his classmates.
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MisterStompy 1/15/2023 4:09 PM
Also:
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The Triads were directly responsible for trafficking little girls to Philippines and Thailand when parents sold them under China's One Child Policy. This was not only authorized by the Chinese government, it was facilitated with their aid and using Chinese merchant ships. (edited)
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I could literally attend backyard parties of both Latin and Black gangs without issue... and did. Wah Ching actively threatened my life for no reason other than making their kid brother loose face in front of his classmates.
MisterStompy 1/15/2023 4:10 PM
Where I'm from the "gangs" were either groups subservient to the Aryan Nations in prison or wannabes that served as proxies for the actual gangs like the Surenos, but even then I remember one time going to a house and they were having a big party, I didn't find out until two days later that it was a gang throwing the party.
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Where I'm from the "gangs" were either groups subservient to the Aryan Nations in prison or wannabes that served as proxies for the actual gangs like the Surenos, but even then I remember one time going to a house and they were having a big party, I didn't find out until two days later that it was a gang throwing the party.
For me it wasn't even a big deal knowing... drive by's could happen anywhere anyway... might as well go to a party where most of the people can shoot back.
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MisterStompy 1/15/2023 4:12 PM
I was more worried about getting shot by stray gunfire from some guy who didn't know what the fuck he was doing lmao. The main danger from these guys was that they sold meth and occasionally hurt someone by accident.
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even when the dealers associated with gangs would fight (wannabe Surenos vs the guys working for the Nazis) there was generally no gunfire exchanged because deep down they all knew they didn't have shit for experience with them, so the worst that came out was generally knives, and these fights were rare. It was usually more guys from the other side would show up, so one side would leave and that happened back and forth.
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I was more worried about getting shot by stray gunfire from some guy who didn't know what the fuck he was doing lmao. The main danger from these guys was that they sold meth and occasionally hurt someone by accident.
Generally speaking that's fair. Some of the crews in LA were up to fucked up shit... including pimping (the string them out on drugs and pimp them out kind).
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Generally speaking that's fair. Some of the crews in LA were up to fucked up shit... including pimping (the string them out on drugs and pimp them out kind).
MisterStompy 1/15/2023 4:14 PM
It's amazing how both the "small time" human traffickers and drug pushers in urban areas could be effecitvely eliminated within weeks if prostitution and drugs were legalized. (edited)
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even when the dealers associated with gangs would fight (wannabe Surenos vs the guys working for the Nazis) there was generally no gunfire exchanged because deep down they all knew they didn't have shit for experience with them, so the worst that came out was generally knives, and these fights were rare. It was usually more guys from the other side would show up, so one side would leave and that happened back and forth.
That must have been nice.
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It's amazing how both the "small time" human traffickers and drug pushers in urban areas could be effecitvely eliminated within weeks if prostitution and drugs were legalized. (edited)
It's almost as if there is a concerted effort by the government to keep people impoverished and in fear.
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That must have been nice.
MisterStompy 1/15/2023 4:15 PM
Yeah like I said these guys were very much criminals but calling them "hardened" is a stretch. I'd call them "felony connoisseurs" (edited)
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Yeah like I said these guys were very much criminals but calling them "hardened" is a stretch. I'd call them "felony connoisseurs" (edited)
I'm gonna appropriate that one.
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Somehow that got weaponized. I'll blame Calvin.
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Somehow that got weaponized. I'll blame Calvin.
MisterStompy 1/15/2023 4:19 PM
No, Hobbes did it
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authoritarian left 🤝 authoritarian right hating America yet refusing to go to the authoritarian dictatorships that they praise in its stead https://twitter.com/AttorneyFren/status/1614032620903628800 (edited)
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/15/2023 5:43 PM
that’s the taiwanese high speed rail
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/15/2023 5:44 PM
Well, it's accurate in one way: China ripping off something that actually works.
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TheAnonymousDew 1/15/2023 7:15 PM
MAGAs are mad about the M&M characters, I'm mad at Mars for a different reason The obvious "Pinkwashing" and performative virtue signaling from Mars, who are just clearly using this to distract from their child slave labor lawsuit
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/15/2023 7:19 PM
its a chocolate company, its not surprising that they use slave or child labour
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MisterStompy 1/15/2023 8:12 PM
Heartbreaking: Worst person you know just made a great point https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer/status/1613949738122104832
The Civil War was fundamentally about slavery. Period. Other factors were involved, but slavery was indispensable and sufficient to cause the conflict. Everything mentioned here about Lee is true and interesting but irrelevant. Why lie about history?
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AvoidOblivion 1/15/2023 8:17 PM
I had never heard of him ‘till now. He’s a garbage human, but made a good point.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/15/2023 9:00 PM
a broken clock is right twice a day
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/15/2023 10:50 PM
now they're not even pretending
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ah yes, we're now on to the soros level of brainworms
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/16/2023 1:17 PM
what’s with their obsession over george soros
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who even is he
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what’s with their obsession over george soros
jewish billionaire
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dogwhistle for antisemitism
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Soros is a supporter of progressive and liberal political causes, to which he dispenses donations through his foundation, the Open Society Foundations.[19] Between 1979 and 2011, he donated more than $11 billion to various philanthropic causes;[20][21] by 2017, his donations "on civil initiatives to reduce poverty and increase transparency, and on scholarships and universities around the world" totaled $12 billion.[22] He influenced the Fall of Communism in Eastern Europe in the late 1980s and early 1990s,[23] and provided one of Europe's largest higher education endowments to the Central European University in his Hungarian hometown.[24] His extensive funding of political causes has made him a "bugaboo of European nationalists".[25] The New York Times reported in October 2018 that "conspiracy theories about him have gone mainstream, to nearly every corner of the Republican Party".[26] Numerous American conservatives have promoted false claims that characterize Soros as a singularly dangerous "puppet master" behind many alleged global plots.[26][27][28][29] Conspiracy theories targeting Soros, who is of Jewish descent, have often been described as antisemitic.[30][31][32]
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like he's pretty much the incarnation of social-liberalism and moderation lol, he's even pro 2-states in Israel and has criticized the israeli and american governments on the issue
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So he has become the perfect enemy of the american right wing, as well as some places in eastern europe, like Hungary where he is from
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it may have been sarcastic apparently, still quite the headline
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/16/2023 1:38 PM
That headline hit me like a brick covered in lemon juice
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MisterStompy 1/16/2023 2:10 PM
And now to Orlando, Florida, where Bolsonaristas are singing and praying for their fallen leader from outside the suburban house of the MMA fighter where he is staying
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Also apparently Lula called the Brazilian insurrectionsits Fascists AND Stalinists.
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So I drop all my past criticisms of him and call him based, for now.
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Apparently Bolsanaro's entire cabinet is hanging out in Orlando
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“It’s obviously a lie that trans women are women, and if you want proof, I’d like to refer you to the writings of a certain Adolf Hitler in his seminal work Mein Kampf.” No, fucking seriously. Watch the clip. Are we allowed to call them Nazis yet or…? https://t.co/40ZngpwBvN
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Also apparently Lula called the Brazilian insurrectionsits Fascists AND Stalinists.
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MisterStompy 1/16/2023 2:39 PM
The more I hear about this Hitler fella, the less I like him.
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Watching this thinking "oh she's gonna quote Winston Churchill who had some really bad ideas about people from Ind- WOAH WOAH WOAH WHAT THE FUCK"
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It's Matt Walsh, isn't it?
Surprisingly not
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Remembered the meme a conservative Australian tv chef posted that got him fired
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MisterStompy 1/16/2023 4:13 PM
Taliban start buying blue ticks on Twitter https://t.co/tJ5XM9nopV
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For those who don't know this is in reference to the Scottish trans rights law that got passed recently. It had MASSIVE multiparty support as well.
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Trans people will shatter the United Kingdom. I couldn't be more proud of them. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/01/16/rishi-sunak-strikes-nurses-news-latest-keir-starmer-brexit/
AvoidOblivion 1/16/2023 5:31 PM
What is that law about?
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What is that law about?
MisterStompy 1/16/2023 5:32 PM
Allows them to amend a birth certificate I think.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/16/2023 9:39 PM
The Albuquerque Police Department has arrested Solomon Pena, an unsuccessful Republican candidate for the House District 14 seat in the South Valley, in connection with the shootings at local Democratic politicians’ homes, the police chief announced Monday afternoon. “Pena, an unsuccessful legislative candidate in the 2022 election, is accused o...
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/17/2023 12:19 AM
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/17/2023 12:47 AM
imagine if schools were as progressive as conservatives claim they are
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Albuquerque police have arrested a failed Republican candidate for the recent string of shootings targeting Democratic politicians' homes. Solomon Pena ran unsuccessfully as the 2022 Republican candidate for New Mexico House District 14. After his loss, he claimed that the election was stolen. https://www.abqjournal.com/2565117/solomon-pena-arr...
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BubsyFanboy 1/17/2023 3:53 AM
How it started / How it’s going
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imagine if schools were as progressive as conservatives claim they are
AvoidOblivion 1/17/2023 7:58 AM
That would be incredible. Conservatives would have no one under a certain age supporting them, and this country would be in a far better place; It'd also be a good way of identifying who failed their history classes and who did not.
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BubsyFanboy 1/17/2023 9:43 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CngkEWutzdT/ Navalny's post out of prison on the 2nd anniversary of his imprisonment
Exactly two years ago I returned to Russia. And exactly two years I spent in prison. And when you write a post like this, you have to ask yourself: how many more of these anniversary posts do you have to write? But life and the events around us tell us the answer: no matter how many I have to write. Our unhappy, exhausted Motherland needs saving. It is robbed, wounded, dragged into an aggressive war, and turned into a prison run by the most unscrupulous and deceitful scoundrels. Any opposition to this gang--even if symbolic in my current limited capacity--is important. Like two years ago, I say: Russia is my country. I was born and raised here, my parents are here, and I made a family here - I found a loved one, I had children here. I am a full-fledged citizen and I have the right to unite with those who think like me and to be politically active. And there are many of us, certainly more than corrupt judges, lying propagandists and Kremlin thieves. I am not going to give them my country, and I believe that the darkness will disappear. But as long as it persists, I will do what I can, try to do the right thing, and urge everyone not to give in to despondency. Russia will be happy!
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Israel moment
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/17/2023 3:45 PM
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MisterStompy 1/17/2023 5:17 PM
KEEMSTAR LET'S GET RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT TO THE BEATDOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWNNNN https://twitter.com/KEEMSTAR/status/1615192149879930881
TheQuartering has made 5+ tweets crying that I support trans rights. The origin story for the Quartering’s Hate for the LGBTQ comes from a 2019 incident where a man in a dress punched him. Instead of defending himself like a man he called the police & fund raise a lawsuit.
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If this leads to a boxing match that would be so fucking funny because Keemstar actually knows how to throw a punch somewhat (at least when he's mildly buzzed) and Quartering got his face drilled by a nonbinary RPG dev. Keemstar would probably kill Quartering and go to prison for manslaughter as a result. Win/Win.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/17/2023 5:19 PM
That fucking gnome is still around!?
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That fucking gnome is still around!?
MisterStompy 1/17/2023 5:20 PM
Apparently he supports trans rights now, too. Now I highly doubt he's serious, and he's done horrendous shit in the past he never apologized for, so I'm sorry if I'm not immediately rushing to his corner. I mean he probably just realizes that being transphobic means you lose money.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/17/2023 5:22 PM
No no I get it, we just gotta remember that....he's a fucking borderline psycho
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MisterStompy 1/17/2023 5:22 PM
Which is why I want him to fight The Quartering. He'll beat him to death and eat his fingers.
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Then he'll go to prison which he should have done for how he handled the situation with Etika. (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/17/2023 5:24 PM
Yep, also he almost got Pyro booted off the site in his big era or pedo hunting
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MisterStompy 1/17/2023 5:25 PM
Apparently he's always been pro LGBT? These are tweets from over the course of like 5 years or so
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Still a piece of shit, though.
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@KEEMSTAR bro got visited by the ghosts of trans rights past present and future and had a change of heart
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Apparently he's always been pro LGBT? These are tweets from over the course of like 5 years or so
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/17/2023 5:31 PM
I have my doubts
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exploiting and pretending to support the LGBTQ is extremely lucrative afteral
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I have my doubts
MisterStompy 1/17/2023 5:32 PM
Yeah and regardless there's all that other shit he did which wasn't okay
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/17/2023 5:33 PM
at this point pride month has become a fucking money glitch in real life for big corporatiins
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and people who seek to gain money in similar ways of big corporations
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MisterStompy 1/17/2023 5:34 PM
I mean yeah but like communists always complain about "pink capitalism" which yeah it is cynical and surface deep but, what has communism done for gay rights? Like, ever?
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I mean I can tell you what happened to gay people in certain communist regimes and... it isn't what they want to hear.
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For instance it's not like we were a bastion of tolerance in the 1960's, but there's this propaganda comic that got released in Cuba that says the United States is bad because we're too nice to gay people.
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It said the US Army was full of gays and pedophiles.
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Really the only people that have any right to be bragging about their ideology supporting LGBT rights are like, Swiss Libertarians. And Goldwater, mostly.
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If Goldwater hadn't voted "no" on JFK's civil rights bill he'd be remembered as a progressive icon, he actually regretted voting no later on. Libertarians always have some decent big scale ideas on most social issues, but it's the little stupid fucking moronic things they do for stupid fucking moronic reasons that make them unteneble.
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In other news, Crowder is sabatoging the right wing media ecosystem, probably because a contract wasn't going to give him a bagillion dollars like he thinks he deserves. He's saying it's about media conglomerates not allowing their clients to report on election fraud but like... fucking duh? Of course they won't let you report on something that by and large isn't happening. https://twitter.com/realginnyrobins/status/1615474024263426065
Love this. Good for Steven Crowder. He has woken up to harsh reality that those in Right Wing media are frankly just as bad as those in Left Wing media, and that both don’t care about truth, America or doing the right thing. "Don't make me have to provide receipts.” —@scrowder
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I mean he is right about right wing media not caring about truth, they don't.
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Also I noticed he stopped wearing the holsters lmao
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MisterStompy 1/17/2023 7:45 PM
A 2016 video which purported to show the self-driving capabilities of a Tesla car was staged, a senior engineer testifies He says the autopilot team made the video — a "demonstration of the system’s capabilities" — at the behest of Tesla CEO Elon Musk. https://t.co/vuV6QNbcnN
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MisterStompy 1/17/2023 8:04 PM
Beat the shit out of Groypers and steal their Pit Vipers https://twitter.com/PitViperShades/status/1615424857256374272
We've repeatedly blocked this loser from shopping on https://t.co/Qq3vP24U2H, but he found a way. So here we are again, giving his recent order of $634.50 to the SPLC. When you spread hate in Pit Vipers, we donate your money to a cause that works against you. #pitvipergivesafuck
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/17/2023 8:10 PM
Oh no.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/17/2023 8:34 PM
This anti-trans bill goes a step further than anti-drag bills and outright bans minors from being "exposed" to transgender people.
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MisterStompy 1/17/2023 9:16 PM
So if you let your kid watch Mrs. Doubtfire you become a convicted felon
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Or just exist as a trans person outside and don't pass perfectly.
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And of course cops will be all over enforcing that shit.
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No time to go after sex traffickers... but they will be watching trans folk like white on rice.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/17/2023 9:41 PM
When you manage to make a Reagan Republican look reasonable, you really need to take a step back for a second.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/17/2023 9:54 PM
"It just pushes kids with gender identity questions, or gender dysphoria to the margins," one LGBTQ advocate told Insider. "It isolates them."
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Alright kids, you know what the proper answer to that is
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So this is an interesting but not entirely unexpected development. Serbia's probably got three reasons for this 1. They don't want to piss NATO off anymore than they already have this past year or so 2. If they recognize Crimea and Donbas this will lead to demands for them to recognize Kosovo 3. Russia has been recruiting Serbian police and military to the Wagner group, and they might be getting close to manpower shortage https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1615732085444026376
"For us, Crimea is Ukraine, Donbas is Ukraine — and it’ll remain so", Serbia's president Vucic says
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MisterStompy 1/18/2023 2:50 PM
China's military is just like Russia's: All flash and no fury, this video also goes into detail on how the Chinese and Russian governments attempt to exploit ignorance and bigotry to divide Americans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3UPG8CuPAY&ab_channel=laowhy86
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/18/2023 2:55 PM
saw that some time ago, good video
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MisterStompy 1/18/2023 2:57 PM
Keep in mind that wargame where the US, Japan and Taiwan win with heavy losses is the worst case scenario. The way our wargames work is we have the variables set so that we are at the greatest disadvantage possible and the opposing force has the biggest advantage.
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Also there may come a time in the very near future where it won't be China vs US, Japan and Taiwan. It just might become China vs US, Japan, Taiwan and Vietnam. https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/us-defence-companies-talks-sell-vietnam-helicopters-drones-sources-2022-12-15/ (edited)
U.S. defence firms have discussed supplying military gear, including helicopters and drones, to Vietnam in talks with top government officials, two sources with knowledge of the dialogue told Reuters, a new sign the country may reduce its reliance on Russian arms.
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US Marine: I never thought I'd die fighting side by side with the PAVN. Vietnamese Soldier: Tại sao không sát cánh bên một người bạn? US Marine: ...What?
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slaps face good lord idiot, THAT'S IMPERIALISM
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MisterStompy 1/18/2023 3:07 PM
same guy
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Fuckin CIA gave independent Congolese militants FN-FALs and M-16's for a brushfire war, you're expecting me to believe that we only gave Ukies beanies and slinghots for an op in east Europe? (edited)
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slaps face good lord idiot, THAT'S IMPERIALISM
its only imperialism if its from the west
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if it's not it's just sparkling fascism
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/18/2023 3:16 PM
gotta love dumbass logic
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always certain to give me a good laugh
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same guy
lmao I saw the tweet but the music/reveal is perfect
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lmao I saw the tweet but the music/reveal is perfect
MisterStompy 1/18/2023 3:18 PM
You know it's gonna be bad when they say "History is written by the victors."
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Nothing good ever comes before or after that statement.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/18/2023 3:18 PM
its a pretty old meme but i think its funny
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MisterStompy 1/18/2023 3:20 PM
TRUMP TO RETURN TO TWITTER. TRUTH SOCIAL INVESTORS ARE FURIOUS. LAWSUITS BEING DRAFTED BY TRUMP SUPER-FANS WHO INVESTED THEIR LIFE SAVINGS
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This is gonna be DISASTROUS for keeping the Republican party together (edited)
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And for Twitter, too. Tons of people are gonna drop advertising
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/18/2023 3:23 PM
lmfao
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MisterStompy 1/18/2023 3:24 PM
idk if Meta will let him back on Facebook, tbh, now is not the time for them to bleed advertisers
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Meta, the parent company of Facebook and Instagram, could allow former President Donald Trump back on its platforms as soon as January 7 — just two years after he was suspended for his role in inciting the January 6, 2021, insurrection at the U.S. Capitol.  To demonstrate Trump’s continued risk to public safety, Media Matters has compiled and an...
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He's been pushing more of the "election fraud" thing, which leads more and more right wingers to not want to vote. Although this will most likely lead to more terror attacks like in New Mexico (edited)
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If Trump also runs independent instead of republican then holy shit lol
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It's given him unbearable pain. The whole thing's been very hard on him. He's determined to beat off these allegations. He's going to be very anal in getting evidence for his lawyers. (edited)
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He's gonna reach around for all opportunities to fight back.
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He's not just gonna bend over and take this.
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Okay I'm out, anybody got another one?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/18/2023 5:52 PM
@MisterStompy Victory will soon be within his grasp?
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@MisterStompy Victory will soon be within his grasp?
MisterStompy 1/18/2023 5:52 PM
ehhhhhhhhhhh
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/18/2023 5:52 PM
A good lawyer would come in handy.
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MisterStompy 1/18/2023 5:53 PM
That one works, yeah
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Ohhhhhhhhh
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OHHHHHHHH
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Tiny scoop: We learned today that Twitter’s revenue is down 40 percent year over year (& Musk’s first giant interest payment on the company is due at the end of the month):
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MisterStompy 1/18/2023 6:02 PM
LMAAAAAAOOO
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It turns out "I fucking hate t-------" isn't a good resume even for Elon Musk
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OH MY GOD
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"I understand how computers work." inhales loudly through nostrils
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Musk also fired that guy because he realized CA got some pretty nasty anti-discrimination workplace laws
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Telsa actually got into huge trouble with said laws causing several of their factories to close
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Lol wat.
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The North Carolina substation damaged in the apparent gunfire is not far from Moore County, where two other substations were attacked by gunfire in early December.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/18/2023 6:51 PM
Remember when the closest thing you people had to this was a crazy old lady shooting at a 5G tower?
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good times
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MisterStompy 1/18/2023 7:43 PM
So anyway this is still happening. I think we should be arming these beautiful motherfuckers. https://twitter.com/PopularFront_/status/1615528216277520384
#Myanmar: PDF fighters in the Sagaing town of Monywa reportedly carried out a drive-by attack on a junta checkpoint recently. The fighters are armed with K-09 rifles manufactured by the Kachin Independence Army, who likely supplied the rifles to PDF groups. (via @war_noir)
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Covered Leather Master: Hey boy, that's cute, got any more insults before I make a man out of you?
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Covered Leather Master: Hey boy, that's cute, got any more insults before I make a man out of you?
MisterStompy 1/18/2023 7:46 PM
The last thing a paleo sees before their DEEP DARK FANTASIES are forced to the surface
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While it is not specifically prohibited, it would be nice if we could try to reduce the twitter/youtube/meme (well maybe memes are prohibited) content in this channel. We have #twitter-updates and #youtube for those things, so maybe they making those channels more active. (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/18/2023 9:44 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/18/politics/desantis-covid-policy-florida/index.html This fucker is getting people killed to satisfy his own ego. (edited)
Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis called on state lawmakers to make permanent existing penalties for companies that require all employees get the Covid-19 vaccination, his latest move to curtail pandemic mitigation efforts.
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So anyway this is still happening. I think we should be arming these beautiful motherfuckers. https://twitter.com/PopularFront_/status/1615528216277520384
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/18/2023 10:01 PM
They also use 3D printed guns
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The next few years will be the end of gun control worldwide (edited)
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The only methods left will be ammunition control measures
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https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/18/politics/desantis-covid-policy-florida/index.html This fucker is getting people killed to satisfy his own ego. (edited)
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/18/2023 10:02 PM
anyone else notice he’s been getting a bit oranger as time goes on?
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anyone else notice he’s been getting a bit oranger as time goes on?
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/18/2023 10:15 PM
he's trying to be someone who he is not
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/18/2023 10:15 PM
dude’s trying to become the savior figure trump used to be
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/18/2023 10:16 PM
lmfao
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desantis is an alternate of trump 😳
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/18/2023 10:17 PM
HONESTLY
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that pans out
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dude’s inhuman
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/18/2023 10:18 PM
How did you elect a fucking gangstalker into governme-
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oh yeah its florida
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Deleted User 1/18/2023 11:29 PM
Classic Florida moment.
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anyone else notice he’s been getting a bit oranger as time goes on?
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/18/2023 11:45 PM
Hopefully it's cirrhosis and we don't have to deal with him much longer.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/18/2023 11:45 PM
his eyes would be yellow too :(
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BubsyFanboy 1/19/2023 3:00 AM
We finally have a list of potential days for the polish 2023 parliamentary elections: 15th October 22nd October 29th October 5th November
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/19/2023 3:26 AM
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — Republican Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is asking state universities for the number and ages of their students who sought gender dysphoria treatment, including sex reassignment surgery and hormone prescriptions, according to a survey released Wednesday.
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If you live in Florida and are/know anyone who is LGBTQ+, arm up.
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desantis is an alternate of trump 😳
Imo de santis is way more dangerous than Trump
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Correct me if I'm wrong because I'm a European But Trump comes off as a narcissistic self serving idiot While de santis is more of an ideologue If president he would do imo infinitely more damage than Trump I've always seen Trump as a symptom, a consequence of gop/far right rethoric De santis is more of a cause. It's like if Matt Walsh was president. Way way way more dangerous
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They also use 3D printed guns
btw does anyone know good reporting/osint twitter account from myanmar?
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I'm trying to make a twitter list but I only have @MyanmarWitness, @thechinjournal and @IrrawaddyNews so far
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Correct me if I'm wrong because I'm a European But Trump comes off as a narcissistic self serving idiot While de santis is more of an ideologue If president he would do imo infinitely more damage than Trump I've always seen Trump as a symptom, a consequence of gop/far right rethoric De santis is more of a cause. It's like if Matt Walsh was president. Way way way more dangerous
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/19/2023 7:32 AM
100%. DeSantis is actually smart, while Trump bumbled his way into the presidency
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/19/2023 1:40 PM
Funny how the same people that are booing him are the same people who love to ssy they respect veterans 24/7 https://youtube.com/shorts/NS4k0KWTmJI?feature=share
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alright where's the video
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Found it
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/19/2023 6:23 PM
In 2020, George Santos called "same-sex couples" an "attack" on "the family," and said schools “make excuses” by teaching kids "it's ok” to have single or gay parents. Santos: "They're teaching ...you can have 2 mommies have 2 daddies. I think that's a little much for kids.”
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A group of House Democrats introduced a constitutional amendment on Thursday to overturn a Supreme Court ruling that eliminated restrictions on corporate campaign spending. The Supreme Court’…
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Hey yo?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/19/2023 9:41 PM
What the fuck does this even mean?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/19/2023 9:42 PM
Vengeance for what!?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/19/2023 9:42 PM
Existing and not sucking them off.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/19/2023 9:43 PM
I knew this bitch was something special when my mom, who doesn't have a violent bone in her body, said we should just take her out back and shoot her.
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Time for some heretics to burn
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/19/2023 9:51 PM
A new bill has been filed in Oklahoma that would ban gender affirming care under age 26. Republican states are moving towards banning transition entirely.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
What the fuck does this even mean?
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/19/2023 9:58 PM
terror
9:59 PM
that is so, so, so, so blatantly fucking fascist
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there's literally no other word for it.
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Oklahoma is acting like they're not surrounded by two states that doesn't lowkey hate them
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Texas atm does not count
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The U.S. government hit its $31.4 trillion borrowing limit on Thursday, amid a standoff between the Republican-controlled House of Representatives and President Joe Biden's Democrats on lifting the ceiling, which could lead to a fiscal crisis in a few months.
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Welp. Stock up the dry essentials, withdrawl your stocks, make sure your shit is working, shits about to financially go down
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/19/2023 10:48 PM
Of course this happens right when I get full power back to my house.
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Please, CA will be fine for the most part. Can't say the same for red states
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legit tho, get ready to withdraw any stocks, sooner then later
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if ya got any
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MisterStompy 1/19/2023 10:49 PM
.@RealCandaceO on Steven Crowder: "Unrelatable. People are trying to pay for bacon and eggs right now at the grocery store...and you're over here crying because somebody couldn't meet you at $120 million...It was a total bitch move."
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its just she neglects to mention its her side that's causing it
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and dems are holding out to both punish GOP but also to basically force them to drop several key stances of the GOP
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I know making abortion federal law is on that list
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its just she neglects to mention its her side that's causing it
MisterStompy 1/19/2023 10:51 PM
Oh no I'm talking about Candace Owens calling Crowder a piece of shit for trying to destroy Daily Wire because they wouldn't pay him 120mil for a contract
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ah. Eh, still. Broke clock is right twice a day
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MisterStompy 1/19/2023 10:52 PM
Even Matt Walsh is shitting on Crowder for it https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1616243605089275904
Negotiations ended amicably. Then he called weeks after the fact and secretly recorded the conversation so that he could pull this stunt. It’s one of the lowest things I’ve ever seen in this business. A total betrayal of his friends and people who’ve supported and helped him.
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10:52 PM
But I mean fuck the Daily Wire, too
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ah. Eh, still. Broke clock is right twice a day
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/19/2023 10:52 PM
don’t forget that she’s probably an actor
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getting used for minority representation credits
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MisterStompy 1/19/2023 10:53 PM
Also I'm not personally too worried about the debt ceiling thing, mainly because Biden managed to get that one spending bill passed, he'll be able to get them to pull their heads out of their asses
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And if not then... shit, what can I do to stop it you know?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/19/2023 10:54 PM
fucking awesome that this is all happening when i’m getting into the job market
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Flop, your a EMT
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/19/2023 10:54 PM
at least i have job security in that people aren’t getting healthier but i work for a private company
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your job is near recession proof
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/19/2023 10:54 PM
they’ll find a way to lay us off if necessary
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and decent pay
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/19/2023 10:54 PM
UHHHH
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I make 12/hr bro
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wait you got the emt job, right?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/19/2023 10:54 PM
yes
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i’m taking a pay cut to work it
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ah
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I keep forgetting CA EMTs actually get paid well
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for the most part
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/19/2023 10:55 PM
which is funny because CA EMTs can barely do much relative to most of the US
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since california has such massive systems they have to simplify what EMTs can and cannot do
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i’ll still be making more money if the boss is cool with O/T cause i could work a 72 hour week easily with the 24 hour shift schedule
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true
10:56 PM
but still, your job is likely not gonna get layoffs
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/19/2023 10:56 PM
besides i’m only an EMT as a transient thing. I just want resume padding and experience for paramedic school and eventually being a firefighter
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Yeah fair
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either due to raw necessity or the troubles will keep you busy
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ye
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MisterStompy 1/19/2023 10:57 PM
@scrowder Why was the domain registered in december?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/19/2023 10:57 PM
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MisterStompy 1/19/2023 10:57 PM
Nevermind I'
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I'm on Crowder's side this is hilarious
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MisterStompy 1/19/2023 10:58 PM
Steven Crowder is trying to make it look like the Daily Wire is censoring him, she he released a secretly recorded phone call where the DW told him that A: They won't give him 120 mil for his cotract and B: He can't do his fucked up anti Asian "humor" anymore becaues they'll lose advertisers.
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So he started this thing called "StopBigCon" claiming that he's being screwed by "establishment conservatism" and he's fighting for the little guy, but he's been planning this since BEFORE these negotiations.
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ah yes excellent
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/19/2023 10:59 PM
excellent
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inner GOP cannibalism
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Eyy!
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/19/2023 11:00 PM
btw
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MisterStompy 1/19/2023 11:00 PM
This is way worse for them than just politicians fighting lmao, this is the media apparatus here, it's like if Goebbels got into a pissing contest with his colleagues and grinded the Nazi film industry to a halt
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/19/2023 11:00 PM
how much do y’all wanna bet nothing’s gonna happen in atlanta tomorrow night
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...ok to be fair, the Nazis did have in-fighting later on in the war
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...what's going on in Atlanta?
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@floppunism [BOI, ID]
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/19/2023 11:05 PM
anti-cop city protestor was shot and killed by cops yesterday
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activists called for a “night of rage” tomorrow in retaliation
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MisterStompy 1/19/2023 11:15 PM
Let's be real here, the main reason why the 2020 protests and riots got so fucking bonkers was because people were being cooped up all day from the pandemic. A lot of it was boredom and stir craziness and people having more time than normal to learn about police brutality.
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They were antsy and they had tons of free time which one day the spent learning about the history of violence from law enforcement, mix this with overzealous cops wanting to shoot rubber baton rounds at everyone, and there you go. (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/19/2023 11:26 PM
yeah
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explains why cities weren’t burned over the arguably more egregious murders in 2021
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i remember one where a Black kid was literally executed
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/19/2023 11:27 PM
I still remember that one bodycam video of a cop saying "Be vewy quiet! We're hunting activists.".
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/19/2023 11:28 PM
on his belly and shit, gun to the head
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/19/2023 11:28 PM
hunting
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/19/2023 11:30 PM
that’s just mocking the looney tunes phrase tbf
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I wouldn't necessarily guarantee it be peaceful either. I remember a few anti-abortion churches and areas been suffering a freak case of "spontantious" combustion when Dobbs got leaked. And it kept going til the midterm
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also it was a forest right?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/19/2023 11:33 PM
oh it will not be peaceful
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they openly advocated an eye for an eye policy
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if it follows through somebody will probably die
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plus
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its Atlanta
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This is a city that literally had half of its population descend on one of the whitest neighboring towns because a black dude who was jogging got lynched and the criminals were about to get away with it until they underestimated, oh yeah, I live NEXT TO FUCKING ATLANTA (edited)
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Atlanta is also still home to several very pro-minority owning guns groups
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/20/2023 12:17 AM
evil
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/20/2023 7:52 AM
An offshoot of the now-defunct neo-Nazi terror group Atomwaffen Division is undertaking a propaganda push related to the attack on the power grid earlier this month in Moore County that resulted in widespread power outages affecting about 40,000 customers.The morning after the power grid attack, whi...
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/20/2023 6:08 PM
Fox Corp Chairman Rupert Murdoch will be questioned under oath on Thursday and Friday in a defamation lawsuit over his network’s coverage of unfounded vote-rigging claims during the 2020 U.S. presidential election.
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Oh shit
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/20/2023 10:21 PM
Missouri lawmakers are considering new legislation aimed at prohibiting the teaching of so-called critical race theory in its public grade schools -- even though the state's largest teachers' union says the concept is not presently a part of schools' curricula -- and requiring the state to develop a training program to teach American patriotism.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/20/2023 10:40 PM
"we want to stop indoctrination!" furthers indoctrination
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An administrative review accused the officers of violating multiple policies, including use of excessive force, duty to intervene and duty to render aid.
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well, this is gonna be bad
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I hated being forced to do the pledge every day when I knew my future was bleak
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/20/2023 10:41 PM
if fucking memphis PD fires cops so quickly
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back in school
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Pledge was inspiring to me even though I knew I couldn't do much to fulfill the ideals of it on a grand scale
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if fucking memphis PD fires cops so quickly
rathernot123 1/20/2023 11:39 PM
They will be back though when this blows over
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/20/2023 11:42 PM
I’m glad to be in a school where I feel safe enough not to stand for the pledge
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If I was at my old school I’d be getting death stares from 20 trumpers (edited)
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now i only get a death stare from one lmao
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Pledge was inspiring to me even though I knew I couldn't do much to fulfill the ideals of it on a grand scale
gravybaby420 1/21/2023 12:05 AM
same, it was inspiring to me knowing what it stood for
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
if fucking memphis PD fires cops so quickly
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/21/2023 12:43 AM
The fact that all 5 were black may have something to do with it.
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Texas or Tennessee? Cause depending on the state, that's a John Brown club showing up for the protest
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Texas or Tennessee? Cause depending on the state, that's a John Brown club showing up for the protest
Memphis is in Tennessee.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
I’m glad to be in a school where I feel safe enough not to stand for the pledge
that's true liberty
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/21/2023 12:53 PM
At the Georgia March for Life gathering on Friday, Georgia Director for the National Federation of Republican Assemblies Nathaniel Darnell thanked God in a public prayer for the death of Georgia state House Speaker David Ralston, calling the late lawmaker an "obstacle" to passing more restrictive ab...
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This is just disturbing.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/21/2023 12:54 PM
good god....
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what a bunch of delusional traumatized fascists
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life is a unique thing. you can't just force people to exist into the world and make them do your things and be a certain way
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what ever happened to their civility
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They never had it
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 1:20 AM
pretty cool taking these tests once in a while to see how i’ve changed
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This is what happens when you villainize a man, and not his ideology... Spain spent the last 80 years claiming Franco was the problem when it was the royal nationalist ideology that was the root of the problem.
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Our government apparatus used as a tool of fascism... and why the state will always be a function of fascism. https://twitter.com/ATLSolFund/status/1617271299595714563?s=20&t=1d6WIHhopt3k6-lcwNYzdg
Last night, Atlanta leadership followed Governor Kemp in calling protesters "terrorists". What started as a right-wing talking point from a Republican governor is now being parroted by the city. [thread]
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...In a city well known for a armed minority population...yeah no, the cops had a bad time last night, this won't end well for them (edited)
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Kemp alone nearly had the several police departments lose years worth of cars
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in roughly a couple nights
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...In a city well known for a armed minority population...yeah no, the cops had a bad time last night, this won't end well for them (edited)
Where a state acts in violence against it's people, the people will be forced to act in violence against the state. All state governments act in violence against their people. All of them.
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CA would disagree. Violently. Cops are assholes here, but they know the citizens in CA will give them a bad time. Its why our protests are relatively peaceful, despite most lacking arms
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most of the time
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Its more accurate to say cops and the people..tolerate each other. In part because nobody wants another Rodney King situation
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There will always be a tipping point. And LAPD/LASD has somehow managed to surpass the Rodney King level of violence against people tenfold since.
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It's only a matter of time before my hometown erupts in flames again.
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LAPD has only avoided Rodney King style violence by mostly avoiding or minimizing the damage via letting people a path through
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Its better to just let the mob set a couple cars on fire or a few stores then risk losing a year's worth of equipment again
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 7:40 PM
There have been three egregious attacks by cops in the last few days, the growing tension is palpable.
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yup
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stay safe ya'll
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 7:40 PM
I bet another city will be ablaze by the start of summer
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This is how it usually goes, it seems. Big riot every 3-4 years.
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Almost wish I could join the fun, tbh.
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Flop no
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I won't take that bet @floppunism [BOI, ID] But the outcome will depend on whether or not it's in an area with an armed brownshirt population. Some of them have to be waiting for the chance to go Krybaby Rittenshit on POC.
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the problem with that
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is gun ownership on the left been spiking every year
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 7:43 PM
Yeah… I fear that another large uprising in Seattle or Portland will attract the freaks radicalized over the past few years and see more gunfire than we saw last time.
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Since those areas are surrounded by extremely conservative people
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hell, I've been looking into arms (shits expensive and I want a good starter firearm) and I can tell the next Rittenshit is gonna get clapped
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we already did see a would-be Rittenshit get clapped in Portland last year
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is gun ownership on the left been spiking every year
I don't see that as a problem. It's a natural reaction... and I've personally been a part of making ownership and training accessible. I have several left oriented firearms instructors I send people to.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 7:45 PM
Oh I think he means it’s a problem for the right.
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she*
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 7:45 PM
Shit sorry
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not helped with all my avatars being dude
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hell, I've been looking into arms (shits expensive and I want a good starter firearm) and I can tell the next Rittenshit is gonna get clapped
No one wants to be the dude who lost his bicep because he didn't fire on Kyle when he killed a second person.
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but np
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 7:46 PM
Yeah I think that experience taught a lot of people a lesson; Don’t hesitate
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Kyle almost got clapped too
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If he'd not hit the bicep, he would have been. That was pure fucking luck on Kyles part.
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I think the point I'm trying to make is... If the brownshirts open fire on protesters, there will be a Syria like dissolution of civilization here very quickly. Particularly if one of the brownshirts is identifiable as one of the high profile fash groups.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 7:49 PM
Yeah
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It will invoke retaliation, which invokes more retaliation, which revokes even more retaliation…
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It won't be civil war. But it will exceed our 1920s era corp/labor violence.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 7:50 PM
And just keeps going until it’s basically militia war
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Not a true civil war but, yeah
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
And just keeps going until it’s basically militia war
Except with a hundred militias on 3-10 different sides.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 7:50 PM
Mhm
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Such a situation would be a really interesting study, at least. There would be a lot of issues that the groups would have to solve that would be interesting to look at.
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And then the added chaos of the Federal government trying to pick sides to end it.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 7:51 PM
Things like IFF, cooperation, mutual enemies, etc
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There's a reason I say its more akin to the troubles
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 7:51 PM
Like if boogaloo boys would go free for all or ally with conservative militias
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ally more so
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Like if boogaloo boys would go free for all or ally with conservative militias
We already know boogs will side with PB and the like.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 7:52 PM
Yeah fair
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if only because conservative militias are like greedy wild dogs
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Major Boog voices already showed their colors.
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they eat their rivals, only to screw themselves long term
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 7:52 PM
I mean more, actual capitalist-libertarians who won’t really have any true friends
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I mean more, actual capitalist-libertarians who won’t really have any true friends
brownshirts will cater to them.
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Particularly groups like PB.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 7:53 PM
Yeah, makes sense.
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This is why I spent so long discussing ROE with military friends... to develop what I did. Because it's not a matter of if... but when at this point.
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And the most beneficial thing I think we can do in that case, is prove that we act not to harm civilians, but help them. Words mean shit to those folks, actions mean everything. And they can't justify targeting people who's primary purpose is protecting civilians.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 7:56 PM
What I’m really curious about is where the fighting will happen. Probably just skirmishes, almost like cartel warfare where there is little territory to contest and only enemies to kill
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Hearts and minds
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Cartel warfare is terrorizing rivals, other cartels or innocent civilians because they are in the way
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 7:57 PM
Especially if we go overt with our ideology. Imagine what a positive shock it would be when people hear about anarchists, antifascists, socialists etc giving aid and defending civilians
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hearts and minds only works if someone is not only stable but willing to respect the other
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Hearts and minds
Part of it... but in reality it's the Special Forces Operators we need to prove it to in that scenario. The feds stop relying on SigInt in situations like that and fall back on HumInt.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 7:57 PM
Mhm
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Cartel warfare is terrorizing rivals, other cartels or innocent civilians because they are in the way
Which will be more like what fash groups will do.
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Most operators in the US Special Forces have very strong knowledge of what cartel/terrorist actions/orgs look like on the ground... they don't look like protecting kids from assailants... or shopping centers from shooters... or POC inhabited apartment complexes from armed white folks. They don't distribute food, medicine, or provide shelter.
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It'd be VERY hard for the feds to justify targeting Anti-fascists if that's our primary mode of operation... because all their humint will tell them we're the good guys.
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It's why we (US SOCOM) supported YPG/JPG in Syria. In spite of their anarchist/socialist/egalitarian ethos. (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 8:01 PM
Yeah. Using your ROE would be the best course of action in such a situation, acting defensively and letting them do the hard work
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Yeah. Using your ROE would be the best course of action in such a situation, acting defensively and letting them do the hard work
Ultimately time will tell. And we'll see if enough of the left either develops it on their own, or finds mine and adopts it. Since Community Defense is a pretty central ethic on the far left, I am hopeful.
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ya'll also forgetting a pretty massive, non-gop elephant in the room:the fucking military
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ya'll also forgetting a pretty massive, non-gop elephant in the room:the fucking military
You have one branch of the military able to operate on US Soil. Department of the Navy.
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I spoke directly with Navy and Marine Special Warfare Officers to develop that ROE.
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and need I remind you, the military was not happy with Roe being overturned (to the point that there in the process to allow all bases to ignore state law and have abortion clinics on their soil
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ok good
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but do you know the current navy? what of military bases?
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airbase?
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They can have operators in any major city without us being aware of it in 3 hours.
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if the military splits, that is a issue
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that's why the troubles got as bad as it did, the military of Ireland kinda split along the lines
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We also need to develop a plan for the worst-case scenario; the Federal government sides with our opposition. Because so far what I'm hearing so far is mostly predicated on the federal government staying as it is, which is no guarantee at this point.
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personally I suspect a split, going by the military's reaction to Roe/Dobbs
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plus friendly fire
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friendly fire everywhere
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We also need to develop a plan for the worst-case scenario; the Federal government sides with our opposition. Because so far what I'm hearing so far is mostly predicated on the federal government staying as it is, which is no guarantee at this point.
The goal at that point is to go underground entirely with as much of the most dedicated of us as we can convince. Sadly we're 10 years behind building the infrastructure that requires.
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At that point, what we want as an outcome becomes FAR less important than having people with anti-fascist ideology alive to fight back however possible.
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And that means becoming the French Resistance and hoping some nation state somewhere will be allies.
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I put forth years ago a modern underground railroad plan no one thought was necessary.
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I suspect mostly because the people who heard about it were too comfy in their designer apartment buildings.
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not to be that person, but given the trump admin and Russia's actions actually spurred Europe to get off its ass about its own military building (mostly EU countries provided) in addition a core tenant of any good military is expect the ridiculous. It also wouldn't surprise me if Canada has been also likewise planning stuff should shit go full south. Also, there's the bit about Oh, states ignoring fed rulings because they are bullshit and trying to enforce unpopular ones is a way to get a state to outright ignore and and worse, a mafia-like structure
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CA already has it here that anyone helping someone from another state to get a abortion can act in self defense of that person
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read: Shoot any would be bounty hunter
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not to be that person, but given the trump admin and Russia's actions actually spurred Europe to get off its ass about its own military building (mostly EU countries provided) in addition a core tenant of any good military is expect the ridiculous. It also wouldn't surprise me if Canada has been also likewise planning stuff should shit go full south. Also, there's the bit about Oh, states ignoring fed rulings because they are bullshit and trying to enforce unpopular ones is a way to get a state to outright ignore and and worse, a mafia-like structure
Their military focus has always been on preventing First Nation's uprising... they are in no way to be considered an ally.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 8:17 PM
canada's probably going to get very heavy fisted domestically if anything happens here
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I'd imagine the global repurcussions would be immense, too
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China would probably try and invade Taiwan
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not to be that person, but given the trump admin and Russia's actions actually spurred Europe to get off its ass about its own military building (mostly EU countries provided) in addition a core tenant of any good military is expect the ridiculous. It also wouldn't surprise me if Canada has been also likewise planning stuff should shit go full south. Also, there's the bit about Oh, states ignoring fed rulings because they are bullshit and trying to enforce unpopular ones is a way to get a state to outright ignore and and worse, a mafia-like structure
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/22/2023 8:17 PM
https://imgur.com/gallery/b4MIfB8 Case in point for that last bit.
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The only thing Canada has is VAST quantities of land that would make great hiding spots.
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assuming Canada doesn't claim the great lakes and north themselves
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assuming Canada doesn't claim the great lakes and north themselves
Fuck the great lakes. An underground railroad in Western Montana or Idaho provides a great jumping off point for disappearing into one of the largest forested mountain regions in the world.
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no. The Great lakes states have a fuckton of Canadian nationals
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no. The Great lakes states have a fuckton of Canadian nationals
Canada isn't in a position to take on even .01% of the US military over that territory.
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assuming the military even stays as one group
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assuming the military even stays as one group
Doesn't have to. We've got enough forces to fight a three front world war. We could lose 10% (which is an over estimation of the trumpers there might be in the military at this point) and still have enough to defend against Canada China and Russia.
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I would put the military loss to desertion/treason at about 3-6% in reality.
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With no whole units defecting.
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If states didn't seceed at the same time... they'd have to find eachother (while avoiding prosecution for being AWOL) organize themselves... and then ally with other brownshirts. It's more likely they will absorb into brownshirt groups directly.
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And most of those will probably be POGs.
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Technicians with at best basic firearms/combat training.
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Also "friendly fire" by non-brownshirts in their ranks. It's a actually common problem even now.
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Better yet, POGs who will stolen valor themselves into groups thinking they were High Speed Low Drag Operators.
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Also "friendly fire" by non-brownshirts in their ranks. It's a actually common problem even now.
May it be an ever bigger problem to come.
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Fuck the great lakes. An underground railroad in Western Montana or Idaho provides a great jumping off point for disappearing into one of the largest forested mountain regions in the world.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 8:27 PM
I'd imagine many people would flock here. You can straight up disappear around here.
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There are tens of thousands of square miles of wilderness only accessible by foot here (edited)
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I'd imagine many people would flock here. You can straight up disappear around here.
My first planned intentional community/collective was meant to be specifically a station in a new underground railroad based in the rockies in Montana. (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 8:28 PM
The only issue is figuring out how to survive there.
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My first planned intentional community/collective was meant to be specifically a station in a new underground railroad based in the rockies in Montana. (edited)
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 8:29 PM
That's really interesting.
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We never could find enough backing to buy property, so when I scored a few acres in Colorado cheap we modified the plan for there.
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But still no one thought a network of such rest areas would be necessary. Too hell bent on protecting their cities... not acknowledging that their police forces there rival most nations militaries.
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Where would they go when those militarized cops turn on them mask off?
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I got a lot of "I'll die protecting my peeps."
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Great bud, they'll die with you. Good job.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/22/2023 9:11 PM
Holy fuck
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 9:16 PM
he started at $20T and left at $28T (edited)
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though i mean, it’s a little bit of an unfair statement considering pandemics are expensive as all hell
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fair, but that's still a LOT
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 9:18 PM
that’s an… insane amount of money
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i straight up cant imagine it
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That's enough money to pay for Ukraine's entire monthly budget a hundred times over
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AND revamp their entire country, economy, and military
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and still have probably a few trillion left
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Imagine if we'd spent that on revamping our infrastructure to provide basic food and housing to people instead of lining the pockets of business owners, who still have gotten away with laying off employees while claiming family members on payroll to avoid paying back their "loans".
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We could have built 100% free food infrastructure with a to door delivery system with nearly zero contact for less than half that cost. But Rapey McForehead and Zombie Pelosi among others had to rake in more free fed money. (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/22/2023 9:53 PM
Ain't capitalism grand?
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Ain't capitalism grand?
Yeah, a grand rape of the earth and everyone on it.
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In both old and modern usage of the term rape.
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I like to remind ya'll the reason McCarthy is shitting bricks rn is because the GOP wants to lift the debt ceiling and the dems are hard-core telling him to fuck off and refusing to vote This means if the debt ceiling isn't raised, defunds happen. With defunds come every single business getting assfucked to kingdom come on a global scale (edited)
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The dems are refusing to vote the debt ceiling because they want to punish the GOP for daring to try to vote for a abortion ban AND to cut funding to SS and Medicaid
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I like to remind ya'll the reason McCarthy is shitting bricks rn is because the GOP wants to lift the debt ceiling and the dems are hard-core telling him to fuck off and refusing to vote This means if the debt ceiling isn't raised, defunds happen. With defunds come every single business getting assfucked to kingdom come on a global scale (edited)
Well the final death blow of capitalism will come one way or another.
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And it'll be caused by capitalists.
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Yeah but this is basically forcing Capitalists hand in the fire fix your rabid dogs or lose your livelihood
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And I do mean livelihood here. The entire investor class will get fucking murdered by a global economy collapse
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Yeah but this is basically forcing Capitalists hand in the fire fix your rabid dogs or lose your livelihood
shrug Good. They had many chances to save themselves by saving everyone else by reinvesting in sustainability and egalitarian basic needs. They intentionally made the choice to profit off the deaths of the poor. Let them die.
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That said... someone's hand will be forced here and it'll be because all of those politicians are lapdogs of the top of that caste.
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So this isn't gonna do that, because they will raise the debt ceiling. (edited)
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It's a show, like it always is.
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I doubt it.
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Every Democrat is as deeply bought and paid for as every GOP member of that group. But if I'm wrong... good. Let the capitalists jump out of their high rise windows.
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The dems have been unified with the new head and Biden likewise told McCarthy to fuck off when McCarthy asked him to talk to his party
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 10:10 PM
Every week their donors are gonna offer a little bit more campaign money if they vow to raise the debt ceiling.
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Hey, either I'm right and we're just gonna steady walk towards mass starvation and chaos. Or I'm wrong and a bunch of white assholes commit suicide and we leap into mass starvation and chaos. It all ends the same.
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Every week their donors are gonna offer a little bit more campaign money if they vow to raise the debt ceiling.
Quite possibly hour by hour.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 10:11 PM
Sometimes I wish I was just a blissfully ignorant liberal or moderate still.
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Hey, either I'm right and we're just gonna steady walk towards mass starvation and chaos. Or I'm wrong and a bunch of white assholes commit suicide and we leap into mass starvation and chaos. It all ends the same.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 10:12 PM
The inevitability of this wreaks on me some days.
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Sometimes I wish I was just a blissfully ignorant liberal or moderate still.
Never was... but I imagine it would be nice.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
The inevitability of this wreaks on me some days.
All day every day. Why do you think everything I do and say comes back to decentralized egalitarian food and housing creation.
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At this point I just want to save as many people as possible.
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The more people who survive, particularly because of egalitarian projects, the more likely we advance beyond all this bullshit on the other side. (edited)
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All day every day. Why do you think everything I do and say comes back to decentralized egalitarian food and housing creation.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 10:14 PM
How will food supply be sustained for that, assuming a total breakdown?
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
How will food supply be sustained for that, assuming a total breakdown?
Macro level... it won't. It can't... we're decades passed the infrastructure change needed to save everyone. On a micro level 10 people can grow enough food for 100 with minimal investment comparatively.
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You can have 20 person collectives which provide food for 100 people and do other projects besides to assist other collectives and themselves. Which allows 4 other 20 person collectives to work full time on other projects to enrich everyone.
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And if you do that you exponentially inspire others to follow the same model.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 10:18 PM
Makes sense
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On the short end we've got a few years. On the long end we've got 2 decades. The longer we have to build that and inspire others to build it... the more people we save.
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And the more people we have to defend it from chaos.
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And the longer we have to build trust in one another as collectives, and work out intercollective federated support.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 10:19 PM
MIT said we’d collapse around 2040… seems about right. Fuck, man. This shit is scary.
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So I'm hoping I'm right and they will cave and raise the debt ceiling. I'm hoping right wingers are as cowardly as I think and they won't spark the nightmare they could spark. And ultimately all we have working against us is climate change.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
MIT said we’d collapse around 2040… seems about right. Fuck, man. This shit is scary.
I didn't see that, but I'd like to see the study. I'm curious what data they used so I can compare it to my own.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 10:21 PM
It was a thing done in the 70s, let me see if I can find more than news articles discussing it.
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It was primarily an analysis of economic and hard factors and not really societal ones if what I’m seeing is right
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
It was primarily an analysis of economic and hard factors and not really societal ones if what I’m seeing is right
Makes sense. The failure of capitalism is one that can literally be determined with math. There are sustainability metrics capitalism ignored since they figured them out.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 10:25 PM
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“The report concludes that, without substantial changes in resource consumption, "the most probable result will be a rather sudden and uncontrollable decline in both population and industrial capacity". Although its methods and premises were heavily challenged on its publication, subsequent work to validate its forecasts continue to confirm that insufficient changes have been made since 1972 to significantly alter their nature.” (edited)
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TYRE NICHOLS VIDEO IS COMING OUT TOMORROW AFTERNOON
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Place your bets is memphis gonna burn or nah
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Place your bets is memphis gonna burn or nah
I think that's even odds... But put me down for 4 fatal or nearly fatal (life support required) injuries of protestors, and two dozen more minor casualties.
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And you'll have to define burn... like a building or two... yeah for sure. Half the city (hopefully the white half) probably not.
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But this does give WP groups enough time to get serious instigators into place.
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As well as UC police.
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Put me for someone steals a cop car/vehicle
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It's gonna have some shit ensuing
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Put me for someone steals a cop car/vehicle
I'll bet whoever does that is one of the 4 fatal or near fatal injuries.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 10:34 PM
Yeah that’s how you get shot
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Probably
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/22/2023 10:35 PM
Not to mention it will ruin your life beyond simply stealing a car cause that’s two stolen firearms charges added on
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Not to mention it will ruin your life beyond simply stealing a car cause that’s two stolen firearms charges added on
If you are lucky to make it out of the car alive at any-rate.
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BubsyFanboy 1/23/2023 6:09 AM
Russia has passed a new law banning so-called "propaganda of non-traditional sexual relations".
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unfathomably based
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/23/2023 11:43 AM
A former top FBI official in New York has been arrested over his ties to a Russian oligarch, law enforcement sources told ABC News Monday.
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BubsyFanboy 1/23/2023 12:17 PM
Czechia, Median poll: Presidential run-off election: Pavel (*): 58% (-3) Babiš (ANO-RE): 42% (+3) +/- vs. 27 - 29 December 2022 Fieldwork: 20 - 22 January 2023 Sample size: 1,161 ➤ https://t.co/YXilM4HWUi
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MisterStompy 1/23/2023 5:54 PM
我一直梦想有一天高唱美国国歌,今天晚上我做到了! 今天大年初一,我为NBA开场演唱国歌,这是我演唱事业的高光时刻,也是我人生的荣耀! 请为我鼓掌! 兔年快乐! https://t.co/faRRsRmcim
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Translation: I've always dreamed of singing the American National Anthem one day, and tonight I did it! Today, on the first day of the new year, I sang the national anthem for the NBA opening. This is the highlight moment of my singing career and the glory of my life! Please applaud me! Happy Year of the Rabbit!
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Reply from what I'm guessing is an immigrant now serving in the US Marines
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/23/2023 7:59 PM
Teachers in Manatee County, Florida, are being told to make their classroom libraries — and any other "unvetted" book — inaccessible to students, or risk felony prosecution. The new policy is part of an effort to comply with new laws and regulations championed by Governor Ron DeSantis (R). It is based on the premise, promoted by right-wing advoc...
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AvoidOblivion 1/23/2023 8:01 PM
How is that not unconstitutional? Does it not violate the First Amendment?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/23/2023 8:01 PM
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how the
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How is that not unconstitutional? Does it not violate the First Amendment?
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/23/2023 8:05 PM
Bold of you to assume he gives a shit about either of those things.
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AvoidOblivion 1/23/2023 8:06 PM
A true American doesn’t care about what the Constitution or Bill of Rights say.
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Or the Declaration of Independence. And no one on the Right who’s Christian gives a shit about the Bible, either.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/23/2023 8:15 PM
Ron DeSantis is speaking to Florida sheriffs. He just said that people should be executed when "8 out of 12" agree because requiring "everyone is just too much."
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My boss tried to not all cops me today. I acknowledged his points, stating that I too have met officers that seem to have a decent heart and good intentions. But then countered with... "But I can't trust even <local deputy I speak to regularly> to report another deputy if he found out that deputy planted drugs on me. Because there are nearly zero examples of police ratting on other police nationwide, that don't include the whistleblower being fired, or found dead in an 'apparent suicide'. "However there are daily examples of cops who are fired for abuse of force, who are nearly immediately rehired by another department."
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continued with "<local cop> has a property he's paying on, a home construction loan he's paying on, which amount to over 600k, a young stay at home mother wife, and a newborn. You think he's going to risk death or being terminated to rat out a fellow cop because of little old me?"
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/24/2023 12:33 AM
And on today's episode of "Who the Fuck Asked?"...
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SIngapore is also a literal city-state able to make millions by lowkey running a LOT of other countries money. Also they have a mostly healthy middle class, high taxes and believe it or not, don't execute drug dealers or petty vandals, they have rights even there
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they have a death penalty, but also generally try to not use it
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Also as a art major, Singapore has nice things because THEY REALIZE AESTHETIC IS IMPORTANT TO REINFORCING THE TRUST IN A SOCIETY
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SIngapore is also a literal city-state able to make millions by lowkey running a LOT of other countries money. Also they have a mostly healthy middle class, high taxes and believe it or not, don't execute drug dealers or petty vandals, they have rights even there
They are also one of the most corrupt trade capitals of the world, through which officials allow all manner of trafficking including weapons, and humans.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/24/2023 1:24 PM
A lawyer for former Vice President Mike Pence discovered about a dozen documents marked as classified at Pence's Indiana home last week, and he has turned those classified records over to the FBI, multiple sources familiar with the matter told CNN.
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Just how shit is White House security?
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Just how shit is White House security?
MisterStompy 1/24/2023 4:24 PM
fuck I confused my Sonic OC drawings with schematics for the new stealth bomber again
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Also two IRGC guys supposedly got merked by partisans in Iran
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It probably won't be too long before we'll be partisans in the same position as the ones that killed those two.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/24/2023 8:51 PM
We read George Washington’s farewell address today in class and it’s stuck with me all day because his warnings are almost exactly how it is today
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Fucking slave owning asshole who promoted genocide... but on some things he was absolutely spot on.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/24/2023 9:06 PM
Yeah, he’s a shit person ofc
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Most of our founding "fathers" had a really really good grip on the concept of politicians who could use a system to institute proto-fascism. Hamilton outlined Trump as a particular reason for the 2nd Amendment in the Federalist papers.
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I think it was 19-21 that talked about 2nd Amendment, and one of them basically describes Trump to a T.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/24/2023 9:11 PM
Microsoft has changed some settings on game consoles to make them more eco-friendly. Some Republicans say this means the "woke brigade" is after your Xbox.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/24/2023 9:20 PM
bitch whay the fuck
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what is this mickey mouse bullshit i see before my very eyes
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/24/2023 9:21 PM
huh
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Republicans being the very thing they project; triggered snowflakes
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/24/2023 9:21 PM
Right on point
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/24/2023 9:27 PM
At what point do Republicans eventually devolve back into cavemen only capable of screaming "Woke!" at anything they don't like? (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/24/2023 9:28 PM
You mean they aren’t doing that already?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/24/2023 9:28 PM
i'm pretty sure they're already at that point
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i mean, back when the trailer for shits row 2022 released everyone was screaming "WOKE WOKE WOKE", the game was fucking shit and the characters looked blander than a fucking Christmas hallmark movie for sure, but, a lot of people seeeriously criticized a wrong aspect of the trailer
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/24/2023 9:47 PM
Chiewelthap Mariar, 26-year-old Sudanese refugee, shot dead after police called to escort him from Seaboard Foods factory in Guymon
so according to someone who filmed the incident and was fired for doing so, the company called the cops on a worker, the cops find him holding a knife because that’s his job—it’s a meatpacking plant!—and after they kill him, production isn’t even paused https://t.co/pq6hTgKn2s
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The anti-cop tension is palpable now (edited)
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Manager : "You're fir... " bang bang bang "what the fuck?!" Cop 1: "He had a knife." Manager: "No shit he had a knife he was still working as a butcher." Cop 2: "Oh... oh well." Manager to other employees... "What are all you looking at back to work!"
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Capitalism meets fascism.
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The anti-cop tension is palpable now (edited)
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/24/2023 10:35 PM
The whole city has been destroyed. Nothing left but rubble.
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Or at least, FOX thinks it has.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/24/2023 10:37 PM
the
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they set one car on fire and broke a few windows
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that was saturday
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/24/2023 10:40 PM
Seriously?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/24/2023 10:43 PM
yeah
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it barely even counts as a riot
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TheAnonymousDew 1/24/2023 11:10 PM
Oh brother.. Nobody's forcing these mouthbreathing man-toddler to use it (edited)
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the irony here is like...xbox is A.) a american console and B.) Microsoft games is REALLY in deep legal shit rn
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like
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piss off fandoms and their workers rn legal shit
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/24/2023 11:13 PM
what happened with massivehard
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they set one car on fire and broke a few windows
MisterStompy 1/24/2023 11:29 PM
I thought right wingers were lazy when they rioted, Georgia Anarchists are basically just trashcan tippers lmao
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MisterStompy 1/24/2023 11:32 PM
Ted Cruz seethes as Cortana comes out as nonbinary
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Get it because Cortana is an AI so you'd assume she'd be made up of binary code so it would be a shock for her to become they/them
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/24/2023 11:33 PM
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MisterStompy 1/24/2023 11:41 PM
leave me alone
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this is the pun police...the Punlice
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/24/2023 11:50 PM
You've committed a crime. Time for your punishment.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 10:25 AM
Bro really think he's father John
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/25/2023 12:37 PM
Jesus fucking christ
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50 years of war on drugs worked so well
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the right-wing dogma of doubling down is so strange
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 12:58 PM
it's been 50 years?
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wow
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"capitalism isnt working well enough people are poor" "PRIVATISE MORE! FREE THE MARKET! CRUSH THE UNIONS!" "the banking system collapsed after messing with money they didnt have, destroying the housing market" "THATS BECAUSE OF REGULATIONS WE SHOULD EMBRACE LIBERTARIANISM (only on economics though, fuck the hippies)" "sir we have a global pandemic and the economy is collapsing" "ANARCHO CAPITALISM WILL SAVE US!"
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their only equivalent would be tankies doubling down on stalinism, but at least they arent mainstream
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"capitalism isnt working well enough people are poor" "PRIVATISE MORE! FREE THE MARKET! CRUSH THE UNIONS!" "the banking system collapsed after messing with money they didnt have, destroying the housing market" "THATS BECAUSE OF REGULATIONS WE SHOULD EMBRACE LIBERTARIANISM (only on economics though, fuck the hippies)" "sir we have a global pandemic and the economy is collapsing" "ANARCHO CAPITALISM WILL SAVE US!"
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/25/2023 1:00 PM
"Maybe we should try something other than capitalism?" "COMMUNIST!!! REEEEEE!!!!"
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"Maybe we should try something other than capitalism?" "COMMUNIST!!! REEEEEE!!!!"
"can we at least like socialized healthcare and reinforced unions" "VENEZUELAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/25/2023 1:07 PM
“can we maybe try to curb an easily defensible virus?” “FASCIST COMMIE!!!!!!!!!”
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 1:09 PM
"Maybe we can start offering more mental health programs for all who need it?" "SHUT THE FUCK UP SNOWFLAKE, JUST MAN UP"
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also each time theres a school shooting "damn that mental health problem, really the issue here"
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/25/2023 1:12 PM
"So if mental health's the issue, surely we should change up our healthcare to make it more affordable and accessible?" "FUCK OFF WOKE FREELOADING LIBTARD SOYBOY BETA!!" (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/25/2023 1:34 PM
it isn’t a mental health issue btw
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there’s no proven association between diagnosed mental health issues and commission of mass shootings
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Switzerland has a lot of guns and almost no shootings japan and korea have awful mental health and yet no shootings either
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/25/2023 1:36 PM
Czechia allows civilians to own automatic rifles and concealed carry and the last mass shooting there was over 5 years ago (edited)
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Gun violence rates there are also significantly lower
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and yet i'm also pretty sure gun shops arent candy shops
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switzerland is also famous for lots of gun and big gun culture, but its not insanely easy to get a gun either, there's a few procedures to follow
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/25/2023 1:37 PM
It’s easier to get a gun in Czechia than in a few US states
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tbf czechia also allows you to buy tanks
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/25/2023 1:38 PM
You can buy tanks in america too lmao
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just need to have an inoperable main gun
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T 55 AM2 military and army vehicles and spare parts for sale Price on demand
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We have in stock: MIG 21 military and army vehicles and spare parts for sale Price on demand
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ancapistan going strong
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/25/2023 1:39 PM
There's a reason neither side mentions the Czech Republic. For the Dems, it proves that the type of weapon and its features have little to no bearing on the amount of violence happening. For the Repubs, it shows that restrictions and rules are/can be reasonable. (edited)
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tbf it's also a cultural problem, which dems and even leftists often dont want to acknowledge
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/25/2023 1:40 PM
it 100% is a cultural problem
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/25/2023 1:40 PM
Gun culture in the US does suffer from testosterone poisoning. (edited)
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violence is just omnipresent in american media in general, and school shootings have had a snowball copycat problem
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/25/2023 1:41 PM
An interesting thing is that there is an incredibly significant association between committing mass shooting and domestic violence
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TAKE ALL MY MONEY
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LYNCH NO
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 1:48 PM
TAKE MY FUCKING HOUSE
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NONE OF YOU ARE STOPPING ME FROM GETTING MY FAVORITE JET
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
it 100% is a cultural problem
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 1:50 PM
100% agree, Panama although stricter, still has pretty free gun laws
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and we've NEVER had a school shooting
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we've only had 1 mass cassualty event And that was a literal powder keg exploding a hundred years ago
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
it 100% is a cultural problem
I argue its a mix of gun culture in US being toxic as fuck, the fact that it's is way too easy to get weapons that can inflict a lot of harm in a short period of time, lack of proper mental illness handling resources and a very bad entitlement complex with right wingers
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 1:54 PM
the problem with guns that we face stem from crime/drivebys
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Also a lot of the more lax gun law cultures tend to also either have good mental health care or are in situations where guns are a unfortunate necessity (case in point, of of Czech's neighbors is russia)
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E.i. gun culture there is less toxic/idealized because they know the cost of it all
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The baltics also have s gun culture, but based less in toxic entitlement and more based in "I would LIKE to disarm, but Russia is my fucking neighbor. I trust a crackhead with my bank account number more then I trust Russia"
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I really think that the modern interpretation of the 2nd Amendment as guaranteeing an individual personal right to own firearms is inextricably linked with the toxic individualism that has made our gun culture so deeply unhealthy
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Like y'all said, Switzerland and Czechia (among others) have high rates of firearm ownership even without a 2nd Amendment to guarantee that right, and the lack of a constitutional right there is one of the things that permits those countries to demand a basic degree of training and responsibility from gun owners
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/25/2023 6:19 PM
They're really doubling down on the psychotic rhetoric today.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 6:24 PM
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They're really doubling down on the psychotic rhetoric today.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 6:25 PM
i really wanna use some MW2 lobby language on this guy but that era is long past
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They're really doubling down on the psychotic rhetoric today.
Russian puppets, all of TPUSA/90% of the GOP
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Russian puppets, all of TPUSA/90% of the GOP
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 6:58 PM
That AND he's just a fucking Brainlet
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a very dangerous brainlet sadly
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 6:59 PM
A lot of them are in fairness
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/25/2023 7:58 PM
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Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) has introduced a bill that would ban members of Congress from trading and owning stocks, using the name of his legislation to take a jab at Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.). Ha…
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it won't pass
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not because of how tempting it si
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but Hawley gonna get raw-fucked by GOPers who who own stocks
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also
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Omar told reporters many Republicans have spoken with her privately and said they believe the move to deny her a spot on the Foreign Affairs Committee is "unjust."
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speaking of infighting
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NONE OF YOU ARE STOPPING ME FROM GETTING MY FAVORITE JET
Approximately 10k per hour in expenses to fly it.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 9:53 PM
i do not care
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(Jk)
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Ugly lawn ornament. Understood.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 9:54 PM
man
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/25/2023 9:54 PM
Fuck the HOA, I’m getting a platform for my house and putting it on the roof
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 9:54 PM
you just don't call a man's favorite jet ugly
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/25/2023 9:55 PM
spinner, are you really one to speak about ugly jets considering you like the A-6? she’s lovely but she’s certainly not elegant
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you just don't call a man's favorite jet ugly
Mine is famously called ugly all the time. Nicknames like flying guppy, and tadpole.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 9:55 PM
that's some disrespect
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
spinner, are you really one to speak about ugly jets considering you like the A-6? she’s lovely but she’s certainly not elegant
That's exactly why I have the footing to make such statements.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/25/2023 9:56 PM
Lmao fair
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 9:56 PM
can't be as bad as the guy getting his favorite jet called the f slur
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/25/2023 9:56 PM
MiG-15?
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can't be as bad as the guy getting his favorite jet called the f slur
I don't know any slur starting with F that applies to a jet aircraft.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 9:57 PM
yes, its one letter off
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but
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you get where i'm going
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I don't know any slur starting with F that applies to a jet aircraft.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 9:57 PM
the mig-15's called F*got by NATO lmao
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Ahhh... well it's missing a letter.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 9:58 PM
you're telling me no one's gonna abuse that?
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hell yes they are
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Pretty sure the only reason they abused it was because it killed quite a lot of US Airmen.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 9:59 PM
fair
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Not as many as it should have given how good an airframe it was... but enough.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 10:00 PM
isn't that the soviet design motto?
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just good enough
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"Make up for lack of money spent in training with fantastic design."
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 10:00 PM
hey i have every right to shit on the soviet designs
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favorite jet's the fishbed
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Pretty sure that's what Mikoyan-Gurevich translates to in English.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 10:01 PM
lol
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USSR didn't do much right... but outside of some spectacular failures their aviation advancements were one of the few things they did right.
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Of course nearly all of them were piggybacked on stolen US technical docs... but hey.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 10:02 PM
you gotta give credit where credit is due
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/25/2023 10:03 PM
It’s amazing how brilliant they were in aerospace
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They went from a feudal nation to leading the world in aerospace in a span of 40 years
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 10:03 PM
honestly, if it wasn't for the fact that they were only interested in funding dickwaving material or military aircraft, we would have some really cool shit by now
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/25/2023 10:04 PM
like, they were so ahead of their time that the first orbital rocket they built is basically a simplified version of the rocket they still use today
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
They went from a feudal nation to leading the world in aerospace in a span of 40 years
And for a while outstripping US advancements in the field. Despite us throwing insane amounts of money at it. That all changed around the Mig-19 era... but the 29, and the SU-27 kinda regained the crown... thanks to the fucking Hornet.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
like, they were so ahead of their time that the first orbital rocket they built is basically a simplified version of the rocket they still use today
To be fair they killed almost as many people they sent into space as those that returned because of it.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/25/2023 10:06 PM
Yeah fair
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I'm just bitter that the fall of the USSR meant I never got to fly the Dorito.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 10:06 PM
many of us are....
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let my boy fly
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That's what I joined the Navy for... to fly the A-6, and transition to the A-12.
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No A-12... meant no motivation for me to appeal my Med Board and submit for Mustang...
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 10:08 PM
my only question is
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when will you people replace the a-10
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the b-52 I understand, that shit's fucking badass
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/25/2023 10:08 PM
The A-10 is a reserve plane for all intents and purposes i’m pretty sure
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when will you people replace the a-10
Pretty sure they will transition to the F-35 as the last of the A-10 IIs get retired.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/25/2023 10:09 PM
Mhm
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My local air wing which is A-10s almost got replaced with 35s a few years ago
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 10:10 PM
the fact multi-role fighters have replaced a shit ton of aircraft has me torn on the one hand: Cool, its efficient and tactical on the other hand: ...the amount of jets we could have got...
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
The A-10 is a reserve plane for all intents and purposes i’m pretty sure
They have a few active Air Farce A-10 squadrons left. But I don't think there are plans to purchase new ones. And the Upgrade program got scrapped.
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the fact multi-role fighters have replaced a shit ton of aircraft has me torn on the one hand: Cool, its efficient and tactical on the other hand: ...the amount of jets we could have got...
The Super Tomcat... and it's possible 5th Gen replacement are ones I lament losing the most. An F-14 with Mach 1.3 Super Cruise and AESA radar system.
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And then a 5th Gen Stealth version after that.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 10:11 PM
imagine all the cool shit we could have got
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why must reality be so boring 😭
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/25/2023 10:12 PM
Specialized jets are cool af
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I want a 5th gen F-111
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
I want a 5th gen F-111
NO
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Anything but that one.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 10:12 PM
goddamn
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/25/2023 10:12 PM
ohok
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but it go fast!
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Well... okay I'll give you that as long as we can consign the A-7 and A-8 to the annals of history. (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/25/2023 10:13 PM
Yes of course
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But the Super Tomcat F-21 would have been better than an upgraded F-111.
10:14 PM
Mainly because it can land on a Carrier and still intercept bombers better.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 10:15 PM
lets face it, these people have never served or gotten close to service
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lets face it, these people have never served or gotten close to service
Facts
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/25/2023 10:15 PM
Tbh I like the F-111 half for the capsule ejection system
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For some reason ejection seats have always been as massive fixation for me
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Absolute facts. And the few who did never fired a gun outside of mandatory training.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 10:16 PM
the only ejection i will allow is helicopter ejection, mmmm, people smoothie
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
For some reason ejection seats have always been as massive fixation for me
Because when you absolutely have to fucking get the fuck out, you want it to happen right the fuck now.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/25/2023 10:16 PM
Russian helicopters have ejection seats!
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The Ka-50 and Ka-52 have explosives on the rotor blades
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
The Ka-50 and Ka-52 have explosives on the rotor blades
Was just gonna say, they blow the rotors off as part of the sequence.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/25/2023 10:17 PM
I’m honestly curious as to why that’s not a thing here. Just deemed not worth the engineering?
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Russian helicopters have ejection seats!
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 10:17 PM
shoves Mi-24 bodypillow behind wall I know nothing of russian helicopters
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/25/2023 10:17 PM
lmao
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/25/2023 10:18 PM
my lawyers have adviced me to keep quiet
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
I’m honestly curious as to why that’s not a thing here. Just deemed not worth the engineering?
Autorotation is a skill we teach our pilots. (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
I’m honestly curious as to why that’s not a thing here. Just deemed not worth the engineering?
Come to think of it... it's because our helicopters can auto-rotate and keep lift enough to safely land. Russian helicopters are like 4 times as heavy as ours... they become rocks.
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lets face it, these people have never served or gotten close to service
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/25/2023 10:29 PM
"Man, kids these days really need to experience taking lives and watching their friends get splattered all over the dirt for a war they barely understand."
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lets face it, these people have never served or gotten close to service
Oh yea, and seriously degrade our armed forces by filling it with pissed off teenagers that don't want to be there That's a receipt for military unrest, not anything remotely healthy
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friendly fire
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friendly fire everywhere
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friendly fire everywhere
100% that too
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Officers would pretty quickly learn how not to be shitheads again... like during Vietnam.
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My main concern though is moral and unit quality. You can have the most advanced military in the world, as long as your soldiers are poorly trained with low moral that edge means jack s---
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/26/2023 12:56 AM
It’s why the U.S. can’t sustain casualties
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We invest so damn much into training
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And why we have a volunteer force. The moment the draft is re-implimented expect a noticeable and sharp decrease in effectivness from the armed forces.
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The only situation where a draft works is in the case of Isreal or Ukraine, with active threats to their existence that, conscript or not, would motivate the soldiers to fight to the last. We don't have that.
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We don't have that by far
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Korea too
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Although it's more akin to pre-invasion Ukraine. A in case thing
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Yea, Korea too. I was just using Ukraine and Isreal as examples as they seem to be more well known
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Although it's more akin to pre-invasion Ukraine. A in case thing
Overall point is that we don't have such a justification. Any re-implimentation of the draft will be very unpopular and the quality of the draftees will be much more inferior to volunteer troops
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Yup
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Plus like as you pointed out. Low moral troops with guns is a dangerous combo
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And unlike Russia, I can guarantee with some degree of certainty we would gladly turn them against the government
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Russia is suffering it too
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keep in mind quite a few recruiters got shot
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Point stands though; reinstating the draft would be a military disaster waiting to happen. Whoever made that tweet has no idea what madness he's thinking
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And why we have a volunteer force. The moment the draft is re-implimented expect a noticeable and sharp decrease in effectivness from the armed forces.
I have to disagree with the premise a bit. Yes all our military "chooses" to join. But they do so through economic and social coercion. It is still marginally better than a draft, but it isn't valid consent. It's like a rich dude saying... "I'll pay for your share of a room you share with 90 people, and give you marginally good food, and pay for you to learn a trade skill, so long as you fuck me every night." Yes a woman might agree to that, but it's not really consenting... it's coercion. (edited)
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Soldiers and sailors are just Sugar Baby's who's sexual trade is murder.
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And then if they survive their time and remain alive... they have been subjected to abuse from both the sugar daddy and outsiders, and when they age out, they are left to their own devices for the most part. (edited)
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That's a really thin veneer of "volunteer" covering a whole lot of abuse, neglect, and with the potential of forever facing the fact that they did horrible things to satisfy their abuser.
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I have to disagree with the premise a bit. Yes all our military "chooses" to join. But they do so through economic and social coercion. It is still marginally better than a draft, but it isn't valid consent. It's like a rich dude saying... "I'll pay for your share of a room you share with 90 people, and give you marginally good food, and pay for you to learn a trade skill, so long as you fuck me every night." Yes a woman might agree to that, but it's not really consenting... it's coercion. (edited)
It's a common right wing trope to minimize social/economic coercion or even deny it's existence
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Like how libertarian/ancap believe that when the market is fully free you get to make all the choices you want which will force the companies to adapt
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But you can't just leave your home to get a new job across the country... you can't go without food for long periods of time, etc...
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So companies will always hold power over us this way
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Which is why I will vehemently die on the hill that ancap is not anarchism, since the hierarchies will always be there systematically
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/26/2023 11:45 AM
Pope Francis criticized laws that criminalize homosexuality as 'unjust,' saying God loves all his children just as they are and called on Catholic bishops who support the laws to welcome LGBTQ2S+ people into the church.
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Does this mean it's legal to say Homophobia is a Heresy?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/26/2023 12:35 PM
yeah
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Alright you heard it fellows, being homophobic is heresy
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/26/2023 12:44 PM
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/26/2023 12:46 PM
I shall not regret the heresy eliminating tbat will happen
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/26/2023 12:55 PM
By Dan Christensen, FloridaBulldog.org - Ron DeSantis is accused of torture against Guantanamo detainees when he was a Navy JAG officer
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/26/2023 3:59 PM
Oh look, another false flag.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/26/2023 5:14 PM
UPDATE: On Tuesday evening, the Manatee County School Board discussed this policy for about a hour. Things are even worse than they appeared. Follow along if interested. 🧵
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2. First, Dr. Laurie Breslin, the head of curriculum for the school district, confirmed that all books in classroom libraries must be vetted before they can be made available to students. She also confirmed the TEACHERS and LIBRARIANS have NO TIME to do this So what happens?
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3. The district is recruiting VOLUNTEERS to come into classrooms and review the teachers books. Who is likely to volunteer? The same right-wing activists who are pushing the idea that teachers are using books to "groom" or indoctrinate students
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4. During the meeting, Cindy Spray, a member of the school board who recently won election with the endorsement of @RonDeSantisFL and @moms4liberty, called for a "mass exodus" of books from classroom libraries
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@RonDeSantisFL @Moms4Liberty 5. Spray seized on the use of volunteers to promote her agenda. She says teachers have used books to "infiltrate" the classroom with ideas that are inappropriate for students. "Sign up we need to get these books out of these schools"
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TLDR: It's fascism.
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AvoidOblivion 1/26/2023 5:21 PM
Now is one of the times I wish the Supreme Court was actually capable of its job. How the fuck is this legal?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/26/2023 5:22 PM
Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) says Florida will challenge U.S. Supreme Court precedent Kennedy v. Louisiana and push for capital punishment in sex crimes cases involving children.
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And considering what the GOP calls LGBTQ folk...
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Yeah.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/26/2023 6:31 PM
He needs to be stopped from becoming president at all fucking costs.
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In my opinion he represents the biggest danger American democracy (for what its worth) has ever faced
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He needs to be stopped from becoming president at all fucking costs.
Berzelius "Buzz" Windrip
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Every single thing the GOP has done is in line with 'It Can't Happen Here' so far... And his popularity right now places him in the position of Berzelius "Buzz" Windrip in the book. No matter how ill fated that character is in the long run, the process by which US became a Christo-fascist nation was a resounding success. And the author was absolutely right about how well it can work. We're seeing it play out right now.
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I'm frankly surprised It Can't Happen Here hasn't been banned in Florida.
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Maybe they know it would be too clear a sign that they are using that tactic.
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LessthanLoneWolf 1/27/2023 1:15 AM
In search of a magic formula to win over the working class, some ‘Marxist’ commentators have called for the left to pander to patriotism. The labour movement must ignore these siren calls and fight for socialist internationalism.
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Good article I got recommended. I’ve gone down the Leftist rabbit hole, and have started questioning literally everything
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Keir Starmer would barely be on the left of the Tories let alone a socialist lol
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Here in Europe we are losing the proles, unemployed and impoverished to the far right with gotcha slogans about immigration and it might be one of the most tragic political development in western society
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Here in Europe we are losing the proles, unemployed and impoverished to the far right with gotcha slogans about immigration and it might be one of the most tragic political development in western society
LessthanLoneWolf 1/27/2023 1:18 AM
Same thing in the US. Lots of unions even are on the right
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The State Supreme Court’s overturning of the state’s six-week, heartbeat abortion law earlier this month is still reverberating through the State House.This week Gov. Henry McMaster again criticized the court’s decision as did some conservative legislators, and a proposed new abortion law has already advanced in the House of Representatives.
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Some local news from sc, but because of the Supreme Court finding the abortion ban unconstitutional, law makers are trying to get rid of judicial independence/ curtail power of the court. Reminds me of what happened Hungary and what is proposed in Israel. They want to remove judges if they rule for something they don't like.
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The story attached describe the situation in more detail.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/27/2023 12:20 PM
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BubsyFanboy 1/28/2023 9:19 AM
#BREAKING: Petr Pavel is newly-elected #CzechRepublic president, @CNNPrima projects. Projection: Petr Pavel - 58,01 % Andrej Babiš - 41,99 %
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Peter Paul.
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President Peter Paul.
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as far as eastern european politicians go he seems pretty great on paper
10:37 AM
lets hope he lives up to expectations
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🐓Theisman🐓 1/28/2023 10:38 AM
@Zed-Juron SC is trying again too. new bill passed the House. We have a bunch of fucking idiots in office here. and too many running unopposed. Hell I'd run in my district if I had any disposably income.
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a lot of people who would be at least decent in office don't want to run, and among those who want, few can so we're left with a bunch of assholes sadly (edited)
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@Zed-Juron SC is trying again too. new bill passed the House. We have a bunch of fucking idiots in office here. and too many running unopposed. Hell I'd run in my district if I had any disposably income.
haha yeah, I listed to a couple of state senator get mad that the judiciary was independent and could strike down laws it deemed illegal. as if thats not one of our core checks and balances
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He purposefully deepened his drawl for that vid.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/28/2023 4:56 PM
The bill would also extend the right to reproductive health options such as birth control and family planning and would bar local governments from enacting policies that infringe on those rights.
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Explosions are being reported in multiple Cities across Iran tonight including Hamedan, Isfahan, and Karaj; there are also reports that Air Defenses have been Activated at Hamadan Airbase in the Northwest of the Country.
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wtf is happening
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This is the first I'm hearing of this, IDFK(know)
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Wargonzo is (of course) reporting that the explosions in Isfahan was carried out by a drone from Azerbaijan
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wargonzo is unreliable af but it comes after an attack on the AZ embassy in Teheran and the tension between the two countries are high
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Explosions are being reported in multiple Cities across Iran tonight including Hamedan, Isfahan, and Karaj; there are also reports that Air Defenses have been Activated at Hamadan Airbase in the Northwest of the Country.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/28/2023 6:10 PM
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OK so it might be israel striking nuclear and drone facilities in Iran
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When was the last time israel striked Iran like that if ever?
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Iraq Syria Lebanon I know of but Iran seems something new
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/28/2023 8:03 PM
Seems like we'll have to see
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Seems most likely to be israel tbqh
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But that's quite an escalation
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Striking drone plants is pretty good for ukraine tho so I don't mind much
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Isreal or Azerbaijan
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Those are my guesses
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Yeah but it feels way too dangerous for AZ
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They are dealing with the Armenians at the moment starving them out in karabagh
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Waiting for an opportunity to conquer the rest of it by force and get their bridge to nakchevan
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And I'm pretty sure Iran supports Armenia against turkey, but idk for sure
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They do but it's really more of an alliance of opportunities than a real thing
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And Azerbaijan is heavily supported by Israel
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The reason they won the war against Armenia is 2 names: Bayraktar and Harop
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Bayraktar you know of it by now lol
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Harop is Israeli kamikaze loitering drone
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Absolutely ravaged the Armenian army who could have held their own otherwise
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Like not have won but definitely not get rolled over like they did
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For those asking, this is not the same facility that is reported to be producing drones being supplied to Russia. The facility from tonight's incident is located at 32.719265,51.592860. The facility producing the drones is at 32.623346, 51.694685. H/t @obretix @TheIntelLab
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/28/2023 9:06 PM
oh damn
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/29/2023 3:49 AM
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: Israel carried out a clandestine drone strike targeting a defence compound in the Iranian city of Isfahan, according to U.S. officials and people familiar with the operation
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MisterStompy 1/29/2023 12:12 PM
Rocky Hayes a former GOP County chairman in South Dakota has been charged with 3 counts of child pornography.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/29/2023 12:13 PM
He needs to be locked up and looked at, young man
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: Israel carried out a clandestine drone strike targeting a defence compound in the Iranian city of Isfahan, according to U.S. officials and people familiar with the operation
MisterStompy 1/29/2023 12:15 PM
Iran thought they could get in on the drone striking business 😔
12:16 PM
Honestly it's a little bit tasteless in my mind, but keep spamming how the GQP is full of child diddlers is probably one of our best campaign strategies
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One of the very few things that can turn away some of their brainwashed electorate
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Honestly it's a little bit tasteless in my mind, but keep spamming how the GQP is full of child diddlers is probably one of our best campaign strategies
MisterStompy 1/29/2023 12:21 PM
How? They're the ones calling everybody who doesn't worship the ground Trump walks on a baby rapist. They're the ones who say that every LGBT person is a pedophile. They've thrown away all semblence of civility.
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Oh it's just a personnal thing, since everything CP related makes me very uncomfortable
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But that's why I say its probably one the best strategies to use, not only do they keep using it to target minority people, they're fucking projecting all the time
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It's wicked tasteless. But the alternative means getting through police to get inside a jail and killing him while in custody while live streaming doing so. Which is rather difficult. (edited)
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That said I do hold the very controversial take that there should be better mental health structures in place for people with mental illnesses attracted to children seeking treatment, which is a pretty fucking hard thing to do with the very much understandable social stigma associated with it. But as soon as you advocate for it, try to downplay it, start debating the age of consent, or have acted on it in any way, straight to the lowest fucking pit available
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And honestly with all these nut heads in conservative/far right groups that talk about how "fertile" 16 yo have i'm sure the FBI would have a field day with their browser histories
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Oh it's just a personnal thing, since everything CP related makes me very uncomfortable
MisterStompy 1/29/2023 12:26 PM
This is personal for me because I'm a survivor of CSA. The politicization of my suffering make me violently fucking infuriated.
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This is personal for me because I'm a survivor of CSA. The politicization of my suffering make me violently fucking infuriated.
Understandably so, sorry for you
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MisterStompy 1/29/2023 12:28 PM
There might be a video of me out there where I'm about to deck this shithead outside of the Boise pride festival because he said people were "dressed like pedophiles"
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idk if it got recorded, but I'm not gonna lie it was satisfying scaring him lmao
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There's no such thing as "dressed like" or "looking like" a pedophile, jokes about beards and trenchcoats or whatever aside.
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I know that better than anyone.
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Nobody ever thinks women "look like" pedophiles but hey, what happened to me?
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There might be a video of me out there where I'm about to deck this shithead outside of the Boise pride festival because he said people were "dressed like pedophiles"
You do logically see a difference between that and calling out Libertarians and GQP for being pedophile hypocrites though.
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You do logically see a difference between that and calling out Libertarians and GQP for being pedophile hypocrites though.
MisterStompy 1/29/2023 12:29 PM
Yeah obviously
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The whole thing just reminds me of this comic
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Nobody ever thinks women "look like" pedophiles but hey, what happened to me?
I know this first hand too.
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MisterStompy 1/29/2023 12:31 PM
Everyone that isn't a pedophile has a natural aversion and disgust for them. That shit's heinous. So if you feel the need to constantly tell everyone "Boy I sure hate pedophiles, I hate pedophiles more than anyone else has ever hated pedophiles!" then... well I mean you look extremely suspicious.
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And no, saying that pedophiles should seek therapy before they do something fucked up isn't "liking" them, although I will admit it took me a while to accept that
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And no, saying that pedophiles should seek therapy before they do something fucked up isn't "liking" them, although I will admit it took me a while to accept that
It's already very strong of you to have accepted it imo
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It's kind of a different subject but it's similar to how I can have compassion for the average russian soldier whose losing his legs in a drone strike, but totally understand why the average ukrainian doesnt give a fuck at all and is cheering for their deaths
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I agree that our mental health care system needs a lot of work. Jesus Christ the only so far effective treatment for kids at risk of being adult Psychopaths was neutered if not killed outright now. I would love to be able to find these folks before they harm someone and get them effective treatment. But we don't have that structure in place, we only find them after they have victimized someone. (edited)
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Which in turn makes any attempt to help people before they do wrong hard, because it gives social stigma from the criminality itself
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Idk how much that is the case in america but where I live schizophrenia has long been associated with being an utterly deranged person that might be dangerous/murdery
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it took a long ass time for help structures to be put in place for what is a disease
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Idk how much that is the case in america but where I live schizophrenia has long been associated with being an utterly deranged person that might be dangerous/murdery
Socially the US is still there.
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Even though scientifically it knows otherwise. That said, I personally know a psychotic schizophrenic. With medication he can only barely maintain a hold on reality.
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It's tragic because he's a very good hearted person... but without his medication he is a very real danger to others.
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yeah its just sad
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and its so hard to get this opinion accross without sounding like a pedophile defender, but thats the thing, I dont want children to be hurt! And this is how we help prevent it!
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It's worse in that while medicated and in therapy he knows he's a danger and has caused harm. This isn't the case with psychopaths however... there is no medication that can make them aware of their danger to others. A lot of active pedophiles are psychopaths as well. It's the lack of empathy and understanding consequence that makes them able to act on their impulses despite the social stigma.
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Same holds true for serial rapists.
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The people who create child porn, the people who actively attack children... there is a lot of overlap within that group with psychopathy.
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And psychopathy cannot be cured, if you get a child young enough you can condition them to behave within social guidelines through positive reinforcement (literally a 24 hour a day 7 day a week six month inpatient treatment program two therapists per patient) which dramatically reduces violent recidivism. But no program has yet been able to decrease recidivism in adult psychopaths. (edited)
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and its so hard to get this opinion accross without sounding like a pedophile defender, but thats the thing, I dont want children to be hurt! And this is how we help prevent it!
What I'm saying is... proper treatment can help the consumers of child porn... but it's unlikely to have much if any effect on adults who make it or engage in serial child molestation.
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I don't know much about psychology, my field of study being biology, but yeah it's terribly tragic we cant do much about that
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I don't know much about psychology, my field of study being biology, but yeah it's terribly tragic we cant do much about that
Tragic is a very good way of putting it. You should actually look into the research at The Mind Institute in New Mexico... they've been studying both the presentation of and causes of various mental disorders including Schizophrenia and Psychopathy... Psychopathy has been solidly classified as a genetically linked trait. They are still working on identifying how particular genes interact to cause it.
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(Side note, not all psychopaths are violent offenders, they've identified that usually a person must both be a psychopath and have trauma that develops paraphilia in order to cross the barrier. But since it's genetically linked there is often some parent or grandparent who is abusive in childhood to the individual, otherwise psychopaths just commonly end up in positions of authority where they care nothing about those beneath them CEOs COOs and other executive corporate positions.) (edited)
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Still... even the non-violent ones can get you killed. Case in point, the psychopathy researcher who decided it'd be fun to take his brother to the cave where Ebola originated.
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"Come with me on Safari to Africa brother, there is a cave I want to see." (the thought that they would both die of Ebola never even crossed his mind)
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Thankfully for his brother they were scared away by lions stalking them one day out from the cave.
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MisterStompy 1/29/2023 2:05 PM
Brandon w
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Yeah everyone hates him in Belgium lmao
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/29/2023 2:53 PM
Oh wow
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nice (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/29/2023 4:25 PM
President Biden exactly a week ago: "When it comes to public safety, we know the answer is not to defund the police...They need more funding and they need ancillary help as well." This is the problem. https://t.co/X8SXAByWfq
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Biden, you fucking moron.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/29/2023 5:10 PM
we all know the funding isn't gonna go to more training
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it's gonna go to getting new EOtechs on their rifles and new ballistic helmets
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/29/2023 5:20 PM
And AP rounds to better shoot minor-I mean, criminals.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/29/2023 9:28 PM
Mother Jones reported being unable to locate the names or addresses listed on Santos' campaign finance filings.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/29/2023 9:44 PM
jesus
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fucking
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christ
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/29/2023 9:50 PM
The fuck!?
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Good lord
9:57 PM
What the hell is this??
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you know its pretty bad when even some (abet not enough for literal decades) GOP's are trying to get rid of him
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MisterStompy 1/30/2023 1:22 AM
A Ohio couple has been unmasked as leaders of the neo-Nazi “Dissident Homeschool” Telegram channel that distributes lesson plans to 2,400 members.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/30/2023 11:02 AM
can he just.....die please
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MisterStompy 1/30/2023 1:47 PM
fucking based Lula if true, still don't like his past associations with some groups but this definitely means he's distanced himself from them if it's the case
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/30/2023 1:47 PM
BRICS doesn’t really exist anyways tbf
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MisterStompy 1/30/2023 1:48 PM
wait nevermind apparently he also said that Zelensky is equally at fault which is cringe tbh
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That a--hat is also a fascist painted red and a Ztard
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MisterStompy 1/30/2023 1:48 PM
still Hinkle is angy lmao
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wait nevermind apparently he also said that Zelensky is equally at fault which is cringe tbh
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/30/2023 1:48 PM
how
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wait nevermind apparently he also said that Zelensky is equally at fault which is cringe tbh
When?
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
how
MisterStompy 1/30/2023 1:49 PM
something about being too nice to NATO, apparently
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He's essentially taking an isolationist position
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/30/2023 1:49 PM
ah
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MisterStompy 1/30/2023 1:50 PM
regardless of anything Ukraine was never in NATO nor were they on the path of joining so either way it's a stupid thing to say
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Guess I'll just have to stick with "at least he's not Bolsanaro" 🤷
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Guess I'll just have to stick with "at least he's not Bolsanaro" 🤷
Which is already better in of itself
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MisterStompy 1/30/2023 1:56 PM
I'm in this picture! The teacher assistant after the class thought he happened to be a high schooler crashing in on the class. Actual class clown.
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He's basically Nazbol Fuentes
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/30/2023 2:20 PM
who the fuck would believe that lmaooo
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If someone said "Putin did nothing wrong" in a class room I would be throwing hands. no hesitation. Your bitchass ain't learning so gtfo
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who the fuck would believe that lmaooo
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/30/2023 2:23 PM
The amount of coincidences that had to ocurr just to even let that happen
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/30/2023 6:15 PM
https://twitter.com/MEM_Fire/status/1620187423530700800 So not only did the cops beat him to death but now the paramedics and EMTs may or may not have let him die.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/30/2023 6:16 PM
Only the EMTs on the fire engine
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It’s fucking atrocious and has no explanation
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Cops are partially at fault for giving them a bullshit call reason but they still fucked up by lollygagging their assessment
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Engine 55 is also a notoriously shit engine company in Memphis (edited)
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It's a bit mainstream but I think it doesn't hurt
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It mainly focuses on the whatsapp groups that the bolsonarists used
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And as I said in #ukraine-russia-war we are reaching insane levels of delusions and echo chambers in social media, but en masse
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It's pretty insane ngl
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/30/2023 8:00 PM
but also consider
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social media is powerful for breaking echo chambers
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it makes you much more likely to be exposed to an opposing view than if it was an in-person thing
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Yeah its a double edged sword
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/30/2023 8:01 PM
honestly, i think true leftism will start to reach a critical mass in the next 10 years
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8:01 PM
The internet brought about a massive resurgence in leftism
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It amplifies all social movements like we've never seen before
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/30/2023 8:01 PM
As the two newest generations finish and start maturing they will only become more left as time goes on
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Honestly not just leftism just all ideologies are finally reaching their audiences
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But yeah leftism was very much shut up in the US
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So you are definitely going to have some big changes there
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/31/2023 1:57 AM
A proposed bill that was heard last this month in North Dakota's House Judiciary Committee that seeks to ban what it calls sexual content in public libraries and send librarians who refuse to jail.
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Once upon a time I would have said that could never make it past the SOCTUS... but here we are.
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Honestly idk if it would be covered under the First Amendment or not. Public libraries are government-funded, so wouldn't the government be legally allowed to add or remove things as they see fit?
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It should be protected though; I'm not saying it shouldn't. (edited)
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but I don't know if it is
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Honestly idk if it would be covered under the First Amendment or not. Public libraries are government-funded, so wouldn't the government be legally allowed to add or remove things as they see fit?
hot take
9:08 AM
but outside of extreme cases
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Honestly idk if it would be covered under the First Amendment or not. Public libraries are government-funded, so wouldn't the government be legally allowed to add or remove things as they see fit?
That makes it more 1st Amendment. Privately funded press can censor itself. But Libraries are publicly accessible archives. I think the mistake you are making is, in reference to the Bill of Rights... the government is the people, not the politicians who represent them. So politicians censoring libraries is explicitly barring free speech/expression.
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the constitution might as well be null and void now lol
9:09 AM
it just depends on who sits on SCOTUS and which party put them there
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20 years ago I argued that the Supreme Court was the last barrier in the way of corpo/christo-fascist US.
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And 20 years ago it might have been.
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North Dakota Bill Would Jail Librarians for Not Removing Certain Books Congress shall make no law (...) abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press
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if the bill requires to remove the books, I would argue it is not under 1A
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but it is jailing librarians for not removing some books
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which imo DEFINETLY falls under 1A
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no legal background so my opinion only binds me
9:12 AM
but if that doesnt break 1A nothing does
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From what I remember of constitutional law. Librarians and Libraries are part of the same institution and thus one applies to the other. Can't ban books, can't punish librarians.
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The institution of a Library is both the building, it's contents, and the people who maintain it.
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like I guess restricting the access of some books (like children cant access x type of books) could make it through but banning books outright, there should be 0 legal standing allowing this to happen
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A private library can decide what books to stock. A public library must make an effort to not choose to not stock books based on content. The choice should be based on the readership's preferences.
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the private library choosing which books to stock or not is actually exercising their free speech imo
9:15 AM
but a public library, its the government deciding it, and therefore 1A should struck that law down
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but a public library, its the government deciding it, and therefore 1A should struck that law down
In essence yes.
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then again for about a third of the US the only amendments that exists are the 1st and 2nd and the 1st only applies when you want to insult someone and they complain about it
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Might be a bit of hyperbole... but I can't argue against it.
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That's why having neutral supreme court judges is so important, but making them appointed by the president and approved by the senate makes it an inherently partisan thing (edited)
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I don't really know how it could be better though, maybe requiring larger majorities in the senate
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I don't really know how it could be better though, maybe requiring larger majorities in the senate
You can't. Democracy is the dictatorship of the majority. It's a flawed system from the start... the founders spend literal years trying to fix flaws inherent in it, and this "experiment" has ultimately proved they failed.
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AvoidOblivion 1/31/2023 9:21 AM
@Evo Yout aren’t an American, but understand American politics and laws better than a lot of Americans. I can’t tell if that’s sad or impressive.
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@Evo Yout aren’t an American, but understand American politics and laws better than a lot of Americans. I can’t tell if that’s sad or impressive.
Yes
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aka
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I spend a lot of time with american-speaking people, including my GF 😄
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Por que no los dos.
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I think there are also good things to learn from either side of the atlantic
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I think there are also good things to learn from either side of the atlantic
I think both sides of the atlantic have proven that neither can get past their ethnocentric biases.
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The USA feels way more flawed than Europe on almost every matter, but also filled with so much untapped potential On the other hand, Europe is very entrenched in its old structures and its very hard to change things in any meaningful ways
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There is a good part of that, but the framework of the European Union has forced us to work together, in relationships that for 2000 years have been utterly unnatural
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I consider the EU, as flawed as it is right now, one of the greatest geopolitical accomplishments in history
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Go tell someone in 1890 that France, Britain (kind of), Spain, Germany, Italy, Austria, the Netherlands, Sweden, would now all be working together, be allies, allow the free passage of goods and people, that would have been insane at the time
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Go tell someone in 1890 that France, Britain (kind of), Spain, Germany, Italy, Austria, the Netherlands, Sweden, would now all be working together, be allies, allow the free passage of goods and people, that would have been insane at the time
given that these people were willingly painting their faces with mercury and arsenic... that's not a rather large leap.
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I am kind of fatalist about the influence geography has on politics
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Japan and Britain were doomed to become naval superpowers and colonisers, for exemple
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That makes it more 1st Amendment. Privately funded press can censor itself. But Libraries are publicly accessible archives. I think the mistake you are making is, in reference to the Bill of Rights... the government is the people, not the politicians who represent them. So politicians censoring libraries is explicitly barring free speech/expression.
Gotcha
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Makes sense
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Russia is always gonna try to access warm water ports and get buffer states in eastern europe because its so easy to invade otherwise
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A few times in history, an anomaly happen, a thing that doesn't make much sense based on that premise
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And the EU is one of those
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If we can expand on that framework (the EU's) to the entire world (not as in a single entity, but the principles of the EU for other regions), we would all be better off
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There has been a lot of (justified) criticism of the EU for favoring the larger states over the smaller ones (Germany and France mostly), but the reality is that any country joining the EU has been uplifted into wealth and stability in a few short years it shocks me every time
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Look at where Romania was a decade ago, or Poland two decades ago
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Evo
If we can expand on that framework (the EU's) to the entire world (not as in a single entity, but the principles of the EU for other regions), we would all be better off
Hard disagree. First it's also a very flawed framework, being that it is dependent on democracy... Second, Europe has dictated to the rest of the world how they should live for too long already.
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Look at where Romania was a decade ago, or Poland two decades ago
Yeah, now they are capitalist oligarchies which use wage slavery to control their population and steal their labor. Marked improvement I tell ya.
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I'm not saying we should impose it, it's not on us to decide, nor that the institutions themselves work, being the hot mess it is now (maybe framework wasnt the right word? I sometimes struggle finding the right ones) But like, the basis of economic interdependancy with political interdependency has worked so far for almost the entire continent
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And that's why I understand Germany's failed approach with Russia
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It's the first time it actually straight up just fails
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We've always assumed economic dependancy prevented war because it's been true for 70 years here now
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I'm not saying we should impose it, it's not on us to decide, nor that the institutions themselves work, being the hot mess it is now (maybe framework wasnt the right word? I sometimes struggle finding the right ones) But like, the basis of economic interdependancy with political interdependency has worked so far for almost the entire continent
For the elites... sure it's worked great. They only gave a social network because otherwise the people would have figured out how to build guillotines again.
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For the elites... sure it's worked great. They only gave a social network because otherwise the people would have figured out how to build guillotines again.
You say that as is Eastern European corruption happenned when they joined the EU
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Pacification of the labor class is the only way the EU continues to exist.
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They were much worse off before that
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They were much worse off before that
Having no say in their government and 90+% of their labor stolen from them isn't better off... it's just slightly less deadly when they have food and shelter security.
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once again, how was Romania before that?
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for as much as eastern europeans like to shit on us, the EU has some of its highest approval ratings there
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Now, they don't necessarily have good views of the EU comission, the EU parliament, the EU treaties But the concept of the Union, in general, is muuuuch more appreciated in eastern europe than in western europe
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You sound like a 1950's American, just the subject is EU rather than 'murrica'.
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I mean, go ahead and tell me why eastern europeans prefer the EU over western europeans
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I'm not saying the EU hasn't contributed to some worsening factors in our everyday lives
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the comission is pretty fucking undemocratic, the parliament is weak (and often corrupt), the bank is the most rigid in the world and the treaties don't allow us to do what we want with our economies, especially trying left wing approaches
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I'm saying "Europe is corrupted by a broken democratic system that intentionally enriches the wealthy and enslaves the poor while preventing rebellion by placating the labor class." You're responding with... "But the white folk here love it."
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the white folks would also love to break up the EU to get back control over their countries and corrupt it as they please
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they just happen to like EU funding more
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I am pretty sure the non whites and immigrants love the EU way more than the average white person who is getting so frustrated by it they fall into far right parties demanding the end of the union
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A system designed to enrich the wealthy at the expense of the poor will stick it out till it collapses.
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so any system that sticks out is a broken system?
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once again I am by no mean saying the EU is perfect AT ALL
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but what is the alternative?
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so any system that sticks out is a broken system?
Don't intentionally misrepresent what I'm saying by intentionally disregarding the corruption of capitalist theft of labor.
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(realistic alternative, I too would love for us to leave in self governed communities relying on peace and good will but tough chance getting there anytime soon)
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Don't intentionally misrepresent what I'm saying by intentionally disregarding the corruption of capitalist theft of labor.
and that never happenned before the EU???
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you are arguing as if the EU is the cause of that
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its a prolongation of it
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its not a problem it addresses
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what country has ever shit on google, apple, facebook, and other multi billion dollar car companies?
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Evo
you are arguing as if the EU is the cause of that
European countries that exist to this very day are the origin of capitalism as it is practiced today.
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has independant switzerland ever done shit about that?
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has malawi ever done shit about that?
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has... anyone ever done shit about that?
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Cuba I guess maybe possibly
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I've got to go to work. Check your biases. As far as self governed communities... you can build them now within the structure that is in place with minor restrictions... you can't inspire others to do the same till you do it yourself.
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that is in my life plans indeed
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even shall that happenned, as many other people have tried before in europe or elsewhere, I just don't see the average person leaving their comfy standards of life for it
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it is my belief that the average people doesn't like radical change, unless their current conditions are unbearable
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and I don't want to sound like an accelerationist that I am not, but for most people, life is simply not unbearable enough for it
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it is my belief that the average people doesn't like radical change, unless their current conditions are unbearable
You don't need to live in a mud hut to live under egalitarian practices. You show the people that change like that is desirable by doing it and showing it is desirable.
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Work time. See ya.
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And so to get back to the EU It IS flawed, I am aware of that It IS a capital of capitalism, I am aware of that It IS corrupt, I am aware of that It IS undemocratic, I am aware of that But compare it to what people were living in before, and after. The only genuine open fire conflicts in Europe have happenned outside of it. The standards of living for the people in it tends to stagnate that is an undeniable truth, but for people joining it, the standards of living skyrocket for at least a decade after joining it, and the people are genuinely thankful for it, the approval ratings for it are sky high, while it is western europe who doesn't want to "get dirt poor eastern euros and immigrants here, we should focus on our homeless first!" (not my opinion, but the opinion of way too many uneducated white people here, just like you guys have in the states) I am not arguing for the EU as a tool of socialism (LMAO), or even as a tool for democracy (Hungary or even Poland have showed us about that) but it is a tool of international stability, as in, no wars. Now you can argue it makes it too hard to change our national societies, which I would somewhat tend to agree (but once again point out the individual countries are much more guilty of it than the EU itself), but it is not what I like the EU for
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(even if we disagree I like conversations like these, it forces me to question my belief and as such is a good thing, we can continue it later if you want, or if you don't that's fine as well, see ya!)
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From what I remember of constitutional law. Librarians and Libraries are part of the same institution and thus one applies to the other. Can't ban books, can't punish librarians.
If they really care about stuff being too sexual, then imo they should just have it so that you need to show ID to rent books deemed too sexual or pornographic, and have an appeals system so that people can appeal books they think are unfairly deemed as such. That should be the Democratic counter-proposal, because conservative citizens should, in theory, support it, and it can clearly be demonstrated that any Republican politicians who are against it are just in favor of unreasonable censorship (edited)
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There will still be conservative citizens who support the politicians anyways though, but it might wake a decent amount of people up
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MisterStompy 1/31/2023 11:48 AM
lmao
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economists: don't do brexit it's a bad idea british: "OI AN YOU THINK I WAN BUNCH O TURKS COMIN IN ERE OPENIN UP THEIR KEBAB SHOPS AN TRICKIN US INTO THINKIN BANGERS AN MASH TASTES LOIKE SHET?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!"
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/31/2023 12:58 PM
Arizona trying to make performing Shakespeare a felony, it seems
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Despite public outcry, the Florida High School Athletics Association is standing by its decision that girls submit menstruation info to schools: including age of their first period, how many days are typically in between their perio… 💖 3084 🔁 1575
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/31/2023 2:34 PM
What percentage of total national wealth does the Top 1% in Europe own? Highest: 🇷🇺 Russia 48% Lowest: 🇧🇪 Belgium 15% Europe as whole: 🌍 26% #dataviz
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AvoidOblivion 1/31/2023 3:14 PM
Now they should do the US. I want to see that.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/31/2023 3:19 PM
In the US it’s roughly 36%
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Poorest 50% only own 2.6% of wealth though
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Poorest 50% only own 2.6% of wealth though
I think this is a much more insightful metric
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We should really compare countries by the 1st, 2nd and 3rd quartile of wealth, PPP
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This is such an invasion of privacy that if I were the father of a daughter in Florida and a school administrator asked for that information, I'd go to the school and beat the administrator to death screaming that they were clearly a fucking pedophile and deserved the beating.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/31/2023 5:53 PM
that's fucking creepy
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Like I don't give a flying fuck what someone's position on transfolk is... that's WAY crossing a fucking line.
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Particularly because this culture stigmatizes women and mensuration so hard, and sex particularly.
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Like I don't give a flying fuck what someone's position on transfolk is... that's WAY crossing a fucking line.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/31/2023 5:54 PM
"This is just like George Orwell's book 1984" -Some guy on the internet probably
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and this time, they're kinda right
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and this time, they're kinda right
Was just gonna suggest that.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/31/2023 5:55 PM
not fully there, but shits getting creepy with how close its getting
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not fully there, but shits getting creepy with how close its getting
We're already there on a lot of aspects... past it on some others. Throw out the right keywords and someone starts recording this discord... probably already has at that. (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/31/2023 5:56 PM
gotta love a good ol slippery slope
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We've already got police conducting midnight raids to detain protest organizers, and even people who just attended one but got id'd.
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This is one of those stories that you both like and hate at the same time.
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On one hand... fuck the police.
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On the other... fuck drug cartels
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/31/2023 6:00 PM
yeah, the north of mexico right now is a goddamn warzone
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Well, if Mexico didn't spend so much of it's time shitting on indigenous folks... maybe they wouldn't have this problem.
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But Castilians gonna do what Castilians gonna do.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/31/2023 6:02 PM
gotta love a shitty second world governemnt
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you know fucking Martinelli is trying to run for president in 2024?
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gotta love a shitty second world governemnt
Same as it ever was...
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/31/2023 6:03 PM
when that motherfucker should not be allowed to be the leader of a fucking home owner's assosiation
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when that motherfucker should not be allowed to be the leader of a fucking home owner's assosiation
The big pharma asshole?
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The big pharma asshole?
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/31/2023 6:04 PM
nope, he was doing a lot of blackmail during his presidency with a wire tapper and doing enough money laundering to cover a meth empire with projects HE HIMSELF didn't want to let happen years ago
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he's linked to the odebretch case
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one of the biggest corruption cases in documented latin american history
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Oh the Panamanian asshole.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/31/2023 6:05 PM
yeah
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who else would i be talking about lol
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Wasn't the fucker who skyrocketed the price of epipens named Martinelli?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/31/2023 6:08 PM
not sure
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look at him, who the fuck is voting for this asshole
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The people he's paying to swap ballot boxes.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/31/2023 6:27 PM
lmao
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hey, i'll be honest with you, ballot fraud isn't that big of a thing here
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he's probably gonna run independent since the CD and PRD don't want him
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and the independents never get any votes
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as independents often do
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hucklebearer 1/31/2023 6:57 PM
Beyond the distrust many in the “Stop Cop City” movement have toward police, six people who knew Tortuguita told the AP that authorities’ allegations about the protester's final encounter do not match up with the person they knew.
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hucklebearer 1/31/2023 7:06 PM
I'm sure some have heard of this: but here is some background not readily available. APD stated that the protester opened fire on Georgia State Patrol hitting one police officer. This is more than likely not the case as the protestor was a pacifist. The charge that he fired at the GSP was due to the officer who took a round, caliber 9mm which happens to be the same as the 'peace officer's' standard issue firearm. He was more than tagged by friendly fire as there was no escalation, and no shots fired before all officers on scene opened fire. Georgia State Patrol is not required to wear body cameras. And all APD officers turned their cameras off. The only link between the weapon that was 'found at the scene' was that it was a 9mm. No further forensics were performed on the fire arm. This along with the Memphis pigs will bring protests ranging from Memphis to Atlanta. If you have the ability, find a protest, stand as one. Thanks,
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/31/2023 8:05 PM
"[ending] sex and gender transition at any age." Allies, this is not a drill. One of the frontrunners for President just declared the end of trans people, and the party that has tasted his boots for nearly eight years will continue to echo him. Silence is literally deadly.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/31/2023 9:17 PM
Investment firms are showing a growing interest in an increasingly scarce natural resource in the American West. For some, that's concerning.
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This is fucking dystopian
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/31/2023 9:22 PM
So is this.
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Jesus H. Christ.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/31/2023 9:28 PM
huh, i’ve never heard charlie drop “globalist” before
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he forgot the echoes
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They even include the shoulder banner thingy
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Dogwhislting the stolen election this way
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TPUSA is probably the most dangerous organisation in the US after fox News
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MisterStompy 1/31/2023 10:19 PM
this is the smartest thing Trump has ever done https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1620484836774354957
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/31/2023 10:54 PM
because they want you to screw up in the confession
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/1/2023 5:35 AM
The FBI is asking the public for information in a series of attacks targeting reproductive health facilities across the country.
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BubsyFanboy 2/1/2023 9:51 AM
Today is an important day. By providing same-sex marriage with the same rights as heterosexual marriage, Slovenia 🇸🇮 is joining the most progressive and open democracies in the world.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/1/2023 10:35 AM
ok thats a pretty smart graphic design
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/1/2023 11:31 AM
.@rooster_ohio, aka "Juan Harding," crows again
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Based af
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/1/2023 12:44 PM
Massive turnout in London today to support striking workers 👊 The message to the government is clear: #EnoughlsEnough https://t.co/6qQEc61CzJ
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BubsyFanboy 2/1/2023 4:24 PM
Olesya Krivtsova, a first-year university student from the northern Russian city of Arkhangelsk, is facing more than 10 years in a penal colony for publicly opposing the war in Ukraine on social media.  Krivtsova, 19, stand accused of “justifying terrorism” and repeatedly “discrediting the Russian armed forces” for posts she made on her personal...
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/1/2023 8:01 PM
One of my closest friends just got laid off from her job with 1 day notice.
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I am
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So fucking pissed off
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/1/2023 8:14 PM
Listening to one of the strongest persons I know sound so ill thanks to someone else’s greed is nothing short of enraging (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/1/2023 9:10 PM
Christ I hope she finds a better job....
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NEW: Dozens of Minneapolis Police cars from all five precincts, including SWAT officers, bike patrol, undercovers and a Minnesota State Patrol helicopter, suppressed a lightly attended protest for #TyreNichols before it could start. [Videos] https://t.co/2kvaJoS5JT
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whats the status on Minneapolis activist stuff? a friend of mine has been saying that protests basically serve a social function of expressing collective anger, and that the repression can kinda serve as a pressure cooker
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especially considered historically during periods of heavy state repression on public political displays and the resulting product of intensified radicalization
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so i wanted 2 test the waters if any minneapolis citizens are familiar with the state of affairs
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/1/2023 11:13 PM
Not in minneapolis, but I’m guessing that they’re just afraid of it boiling over. Minneapolis PD was traumatized by the riots of 2020 and don’t want anything like it to happen again
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If it was a large demonstration, yeah it would be a bad idea
11:13 PM
But if it’s small enough, you can squash it
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the whole area is militarized isn't it? it doesnt seem like there will be any large demonstrations
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/1/2023 11:15 PM
Uhhh, I think it was Atlanta which called up the military but Minneapolis PD is still heavily militarized
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how do activist politics go through under states of siege?
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"siege" might be an exaggeration but if you cant organize protests, what's the show plan
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/1/2023 11:49 PM
do it anyways. only the most corrupt judges can ignore something explicitly written in the 1st amendment (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/2/2023 6:16 AM
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From r/democraticsocialism.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Not in minneapolis, but I’m guessing that they’re just afraid of it boiling over. Minneapolis PD was traumatized by the riots of 2020 and don’t want anything like it to happen again
Pretty much this, people forget that during the protests the PD lost a precinct.
11:30 AM
Also MN definitely called up the guard in 2022 but hasn't recently. One trooper got let go for claiming their rifles were chambered iirc.
11:32 AM
As far as organization of protests go. It usually happens on some kind of social media. Probably telegram/what's app/ snap or whatever. Never got that far into the organization to meet any of the organizers. I was just another person participating.
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TheAnonymousDew 2/2/2023 4:35 PM
Daily reminder that left wing rage gave us the weekend, the minimum wage, and the 40 hour work week. Right wing rage gave us the Holocaust, the bloodiest war in human history, and the KKK
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What the actual fuck?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/2/2023 5:25 PM
.....you're not China Massachusetts
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I understand the logic behind it...
6:42 PM
But how the fuck did they not think it through and realize how shitty of an idea it is?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/2/2023 8:19 PM
You know damn well there are going to be some Organ harvesting operations
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AarborneDivision 2/2/2023 8:37 PM
Welp, guess the GOP has advanced to the "openly calling for suppression of an entire demographic" stage of fascism
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/2/2023 8:49 PM
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Welp, guess the GOP has advanced to the "openly calling for suppression of an entire demographic" stage of fascism
floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/2/2023 9:07 PM
there's another word for that phrase
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one which gets the point along much more succinctly
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Welp, guess the GOP has advanced to the "openly calling for suppression of an entire demographic" stage of fascism
AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/2/2023 9:08 PM
I know some people often disagrew wirh the following phrase, but this time its deserved..... FACE THE FUCKING WALL
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/2/2023 9:13 PM
A high-profile incident in which a Seattle Police officer doused a 7-year-old boy with pepper spray at a Black Lives Matter protest was “lawful and proper,” the results of a police probe released Friday said.
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And we know who their henchmen will be.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/2/2023 9:41 PM
such....high tech chinese spy equipment isn't it
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How did that even get there? Idk
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/2/2023 9:44 PM
chinese spy agency be like "Super high tech spying equipment"
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/3/2023 2:23 AM
Well, fuck you too.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/3/2023 2:43 AM
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The House on Thursday approved a resolution denouncing socialism in a bipartisan vote that fractured the Democratic caucus. The resolution overwhelmingly cleared the chamber in a 328-86-14 vote. Th…
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God our representatives are fucking morons.
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Well, fuck you too.
Hot take but does it matter that much? Dems in swing states have no incentive to say they like socialism when most Americans see it as, at the best of time, a very charged word
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It's honestly already incredible 87 of them voted no
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Hot take but does it matter that much? Dems in swing states have no incentive to say they like socialism when most Americans see it as, at the best of time, a very charged word
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/3/2023 2:55 AM
I'm more worried about what they're going to use this for.
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People are already talking about it being the groudwork for gutting social security and medicare.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
People are already talking about it being the groudwork for gutting social security and medicare.
I mean they would do it regardless
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It's not like they need that as an excuse, when has that ever stopped them?
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My point is, let them have their gotcha, it really doesn't matter that much overall
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oh right they could fuck the DSA w this
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Taliban fighters from rural Afghanistan struggling with integrating into the group’s administrative structure in Kabul is fascinating. TB ministry personnel with little to do spending their days scrolling on Twitter & complaining about fixed office hours
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ok I didn't have "Talibans complain about desk job and working schedule" on my 2023 bingo list
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Welcome to being in government.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/3/2023 10:29 AM
You do not know how fucking funny this is
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AarborneDivision 2/3/2023 10:52 AM
It's all fun and games until you have 8 hours of meetings that could've been emails
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Israel will sign peace deals with at least one and perhaps as many as three countries in the coming year, Israel's Foreign Minister says
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Get ready to invade Iran boys
2:56 PM
party like its 1991
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BubsyFanboy 2/3/2023 5:07 PM
Prosecutors have launched an investigation into the claims but the prison authorities have expressed doubts about the "objectivity" of the report.
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This should be the loudest case right now.
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Clearest photo of the Chinese Spy Balloon so far. This extremely close shot was taken by @Stormchaser_TS over Washington, MO. Tried to enhance the quality as best as I could! #ChineseSpyBalloon
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According to International Atomic Energy Agency alongside Western Intelligence they have discovered that Iran is currently Enriching Uranium up to 60% at the Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant which according to France and the U.S is in contempt of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/3/2023 5:58 PM
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis violated US and state constitutions in removing elected state attorney, judge finds.
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Evo
My point is, let them have their gotcha, it really doesn't matter that much overall
The more the federal government wants to prove it's fascist, it's fine by me. Yes it will suck... but at least the mask is coming down and people will start seeing it as it really is.
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The more the federal government wants to prove it's fascist, it's fine by me. Yes it will suck... but at least the mask is coming down and people will start seeing it as it really is.
It's no different from 1950 Mccarthyism imo Except this time at least some people have the guts to push back Not enough, but it's a start
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Left wing ideas have been seeded in the American political debate and they'll be hard to remove
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Internet decentralization and anonymity makes sure no matter how hard they try they won't be able to crush it down with a few assassinations and police Crack down this time
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A woman is auctioning off sand from the “exact” spot Tom Brady announced his retirement from on eBay. Bids have now reached $15,500.
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Labor theory of value? Explain this, socialist (/s to be clear)
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The more the federal government wants to prove it's fascist, it's fine by me. Yes it will suck... but at least the mask is coming down and people will start seeing it as it really is.
AvoidOblivion 2/4/2023 7:56 AM
This is Rep. Jeff Jackson's take on it. He's the rookie representative for the Charlotte area here in NC, and commented this on Reddit, as he is very active on social media and incredibly transparent:
I think I see this a little differently, having been through some campaigns. The true purpose of this resolution, as many of you have pointed out, was to try to conflate being a Democrat with being a Socialist. The idea was to use any ‘No’ votes to create a citation for future attack ads along those lines. This was a moment for them to manufacture some misinformation. We should be on guard against efforts like this because the downstream consequences in terms of both elections and agenda-setting can be decisive. They were waiting for any Dem in a remotely competitive seat to vote the other way, but I don’t think any did because their trap was so obvious.
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This is Rep. Jeff Jackson's take on it. He's the rookie representative for the Charlotte area here in NC, and commented this on Reddit, as he is very active on social media and incredibly transparent:
I think I see this a little differently, having been through some campaigns. The true purpose of this resolution, as many of you have pointed out, was to try to conflate being a Democrat with being a Socialist. The idea was to use any ‘No’ votes to create a citation for future attack ads along those lines. This was a moment for them to manufacture some misinformation. We should be on guard against efforts like this because the downstream consequences in terms of both elections and agenda-setting can be decisive. They were waiting for any Dem in a remotely competitive seat to vote the other way, but I don’t think any did because their trap was so obvious.
Yeah exactly what I said
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The dems in competitive seats shouldn't have, and they didn't, vote no
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It's more dangerous if they lose their seats because of that
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rip balloon
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BALLOON IS DOWN. I REPEAT. THE BALLOON IS DOWN.
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biden brings war to the american skies for the first time since ww2
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fucking democrats
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/4/2023 2:56 PM
mfr put down thw dart thrower
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/4/2023 9:18 PM
Ok so, apparently that time rednecks attacked top gear in Alabama it was not scripted
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Yeah, though they were also probably annoyed at the reasons behind the slogans.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/4/2023 9:25 PM
most likely
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/4/2023 9:32 PM
What were the slogans?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
What were the slogans?
AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/4/2023 9:39 PM
very 'woke' stuff
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let me look up a pic
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lol
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you know
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the lads doin a little trolling
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/4/2023 9:41 PM
Top Gear's brand, in other words.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/5/2023 1:31 AM
Talking heads on cable TV were up in arms about the Chinese spy balloon that was shot down over the Atlantic Ocean on Saturday. But Chinese balloons were flying over the U.S. when former President Donald Trump was in office too.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/5/2023 8:36 PM
By Grace Ashford and Michael Gold
The complaint was made by a man seeking work as a House aide, whose bid for a job was rejected because he faced criminal wiretapping charges in Ohio.
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He's a true Republican after all.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/6/2023 9:07 AM
So its basically a TGV 2.0
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/7/2023 12:06 AM
Free markets "made America the most free and prosperous country in the world," the proposal asserts.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/7/2023 8:45 AM
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A Chicago-based publishing house will offer free e-books focused on Black history after the College Board revised its Advanced Placement African American studies course earlier this month. And Haym…
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omg tankies are just so unsufferable
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how can you say, with a straight face, that stalin made the USSR a fucking democracy
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like what is the pipeline that gets you there
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I can understand more easily someone falling for nazi rethoric than tankie rethoric, I just dont get it at all
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TheAnonymousDew 2/7/2023 1:11 PM
And they accuse "us" of indoctrinating kids..
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/7/2023 1:11 PM
bruuuhhhhh
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TheAnonymousDew 2/7/2023 1:12 PM
Every accusation is a confession
1:51 PM
Small government conservatives take over corporate estate to protect Floridans from corporate communism
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Amirite
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BubsyFanboy 2/7/2023 5:05 PM
Sources tell Middle East Eye artillery struck the town of Marea less than two hours after devastating quake
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At least a dozen cities across Iran were again the scene of overnight protests, as the Islamic Republic is marking the 44th anniversary ...
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/7/2023 5:36 PM
Mickey Windecker encouraged violence, accused activist leaders of being police cooperators, and tried to draw demonstrators into elaborate stings.
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BubsyFanboy 2/8/2023 3:06 AM
A Russian court in the Siberian city of Chita has fined a local man for speaking to the press about the fine he had previously received for sharing a dream he had about Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky, the independent Mediazona news website reported Tuesday.
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ahhahhahahah
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fucking genius
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AvoidOblivion 2/8/2023 10:01 AM
He played them so well.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/8/2023 11:28 AM
And in true Democratic fashion, he shot all that goodwill to hell by talking about an assault weapons ban.
11:28 AM
God damn it, Joe. You were so close.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
And in true Democratic fashion, he shot all that goodwill to hell by talking about an assault weapons ban.
AvoidOblivion 2/8/2023 11:31 AM
Good choice of words.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/8/2023 8:46 PM
The organization’s board is considering removing O’Keefe from his leadership position, according to current and former employees.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/8/2023 10:28 PM
According to Tucker Carlson, if you publicly support the right to an abortion, "you are promoting an ancient religious rite called human sacrifice."
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/8/2023 10:31 PM
ancient?
10:31 PM
the Aztecs were practicing it not even 600 years ago
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
the Aztecs were practicing it not even 600 years ago
AvoidOblivion 2/8/2023 10:31 PM
Oh, but the Aztecs weren't Europeans! They were untamed savages who ran around killing everyone!
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/8/2023 10:32 PM
agonylimitless
10:33 PM
it’s funny how people actually think that while the Aztecs and Mayans built grandiose cities and examples of civilization (edited)
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Unfortunately they didn't have disease there, which was ultimately a huge chunk of the cause of their downfall (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
the Aztecs were practicing it not even 600 years ago
AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/8/2023 11:12 PM
"Its not ok/possible because they're not white" -Ancient Aliens
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BubsyFanboy 2/9/2023 5:04 AM
My cartoon on 🇨🇳#Balloon 🇺🇸
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/9/2023 6:58 AM
Looks like they either shot Tortuguita due to friendly fire or friendly fired eachother killing him.
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AvoidOblivion 2/9/2023 8:52 AM
All I see is scum preparing to murder a civilian looking to protect the last true bastion of nature in the Atlanta area. (edited)
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Funny enough, I am currently listening to an anti-war song, and the music video includes cave-like drawings (inspired by real Scandinavian rock art) of invaders "hurting" the women and children of the land they conquer. (edited)
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Wrote this a while back.
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An American Anarchist Aesthetic: It would be the collective down the street with an over-sized garage/shop where you go to get your vehicles serviced and visit with when you bring them eggs from your chickens. It would be that apartment building with the daycare and doctor on the ground floor. It would be the park that is a community garden and livestock pen that folks volunteer to make produce. It would be the nomadic collective that brings in pallets of flour weekly from the rural collectives in the enclosed trailer behind their RV. It would be the collective on the cul-de-sac down the way that has an apiary, berry bushes all over what used to be yards and the grass between the sidewalk and street, and a brewery with an outdoor stage and shade structure in the former street where you go to imbibe. It would be the members of every collective who are capable of hard labor who pitch in to build a new home, or workshop or other building for the new folks who came in with nothing. It would be the class of kids and their teacher spending a few hours every day walking around learning from the folks going about their lives. It would be that 5 acre sister collective out in Colorado that you know you can go to in case you need to escape your trauma for a while. It would be the collective on the Gulf Coast you visit once a year to go sailing with your family. It would be the comrade who served in the now gone military who teaches what they learned to everyone who wants to defend the community... who themselves are a cautionary tale of the horror of war. It would be the laughter, the shoulder to cry on, the never worrying about losing your home or your child going hungry. It would be the often spirited community consensus meetings where representatives of each collective and the members hash out the best solution to a given problem without dictating the proper solution to anyone. (edited)
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It would be the stories each member tells of how their collective began... the folding table in a park handing out sandwiches told from 5 different perspectives story... or the foreclosure that made them homeless so they decided to build a home for themselves and 18 others. It would be the songs old and new sung solo or together, and the sculpture the artists down the way carved with the help of a dozen kids from the lightning struck oak that died last year.
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I tried out 9axes
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felt very biased in may aspects
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very little questions about markets vs capitalism too which always annoys me
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/9/2023 9:37 PM
Over calls of racism and recollections of the state's dark past, the Mississippi House passed a bill to create an unelected court within Jackson.
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This won't cause any problems whatsoever, not.
10:47 PM
Also, Mississippi's government is acting like a 2nd or 3rd world government hiding in the trenchcoat of the usa.
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3rd world. Actually that probably goes for most red states now too
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/9/2023 10:56 PM
Texas especially.
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Especially Texas
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/10/2023 2:20 AM
The Ohio homeschoolers who are feeding Nazi propaganda to children are not doing anything illegal, according to Ohio Department of Education officials in a statement obtained by VICE News on Thursday.The two parents, who run a Telegram channel and a network to help other parents instruct their child...
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BubsyFanboy 2/10/2023 4:14 AM
Responding to the UK, the US, Canada, and Norway urging Sri Lanka to decriminalise same-sex relationships by repealing Sections 365 and 365A of the Penal Code,
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BubsyFanboy 2/10/2023 4:30 AM
The envoys of the United Kingdom and all 27 European Union member states except Hungary and Poland have boycotted a Tehran meeting marki ...
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BubsyFanboy 2/10/2023 6:36 AM
The Munich Security Conference (MSC) has invited Iranian and Russian opposition members instead of the governments to participate in its 59th annual meeting.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/10/2023 9:54 AM
Have any of you ever watched Ancient Aliens and realized that um.... They mostly cover non-white civilizations? their basic argument is "These 'people' could not have done it! it was A l i e n s" and Idk man, that sounds kinda racist to me. Like seriously man, was it hard for the Incas to build those irrigation systems? or the Egyptians to build such monuments? sure with the egyptians its hard even for us, but the loss of knowledge is not an uncommon thing, hell the Rgyptians loved to destroy records or y'lnow, not record anything at all
9:54 AM
But no it must have been Aliens
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/10/2023 10:30 AM
Federal scientists would largely be barred from publicly discussing research, which could have a ‘chilling effect’, experts say
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Oh look, the Dems are shooting themselves in the feet.
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Again.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment
Have any of you ever watched Ancient Aliens and realized that um.... They mostly cover non-white civilizations? their basic argument is "These 'people' could not have done it! it was A l i e n s" and Idk man, that sounds kinda racist to me. Like seriously man, was it hard for the Incas to build those irrigation systems? or the Egyptians to build such monuments? sure with the egyptians its hard even for us, but the loss of knowledge is not an uncommon thing, hell the Rgyptians loved to destroy records or y'lnow, not record anything at all
AvoidOblivion 2/10/2023 10:51 AM
I used to watch those shows. I read, some time ago, someone say essentially just that: shows like Ancient Aliens, and others that cover archaeology from ancient civilizations, are rooted entirely in racism. Their whole belief, everything they talk about, is how these primitive peoples had no way of constructing things that weren’t mud huts. It follows the same belief that Europeans are better than other ethnic families/groups, and that Europeans owe it to said groups to advance them and teach them how to be civilized. And if anything of importance existed or happened before Europeans arrived, well, it couldn’t have been the natives! Or, in other words, it’s the excuse that Europeans used for colonialism.
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Have any of you ever watched Ancient Aliens and realized that um.... They mostly cover non-white civilizations? their basic argument is "These 'people' could not have done it! it was A l i e n s" and Idk man, that sounds kinda racist to me. Like seriously man, was it hard for the Incas to build those irrigation systems? or the Egyptians to build such monuments? sure with the egyptians its hard even for us, but the loss of knowledge is not an uncommon thing, hell the Rgyptians loved to destroy records or y'lnow, not record anything at all
Thought it was becoming common knowledge at this point
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but yeah, most of it boils down to "these backward brown people cant possibly have done that themselves, they surely needed help from a greater power"
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Thought it was becoming common knowledge at this point
AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/10/2023 12:14 PM
I'm happy to see that it is
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Honestly I never liked the show as a kid and I was obsessed with the History Chanel
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But no it must have been Aliens
There's also Stonehenge though
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There's also Stonehenge though
AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/10/2023 2:35 PM
pretty sure the only one they covered
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Have any of you ever watched Ancient Aliens and realized that um.... They mostly cover non-white civilizations? their basic argument is "These 'people' could not have done it! it was A l i e n s" and Idk man, that sounds kinda racist to me. Like seriously man, was it hard for the Incas to build those irrigation systems? or the Egyptians to build such monuments? sure with the egyptians its hard even for us, but the loss of knowledge is not an uncommon thing, hell the Rgyptians loved to destroy records or y'lnow, not record anything at all
there was a pretty good video about it by knowing better a while back
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there was a pretty good video about it by knowing better a while back
AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/10/2023 3:26 PM
I think we watched the same video
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knowing better is goated
3:29 PM
his neoslavery video is so hard
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/10/2023 3:35 PM
Thats a subject that needs to be covered by a lot more people
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pretty sure the only one they covered
What miracles of the world are in Europe though?
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Like in the whole world there's Stonehenge, the Pyramids of Egypt, Pyramids of Mesoamerica, the Moyai (Easter Island Heads)... the rest of the stuff they cover is mythical like Atlantis or the Garden of Eden, or it's stuff like crystal skulls and giant skeletons found across the world (edited)
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They talk about the visions of Isaiah and Ezekiel, and even the Transfiguration of Jesus, relating to UFOs
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(my dad puts it on the TV when there's nothing else to watch)
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Like the show sucks and it's a bunch of pseudoscience. Even the actual facts in the show are cherry-picked. But the claim that it's racist is pretty weak imo, given the fact that they covered what there is to cover in Europe and the Middle East. At the very least, I don't think it's intentionally racist; perhaps there is subconscious bias. But I don't think there's much of that
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The only thing that I know of in Europe besides Stonehenge is some dirt mounds in Bosnia
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although they cover some man-made stuff like the Shroud of Turin and Roman structures and stuff I think
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/10/2023 6:09 PM
The FBI removed several documents, including one with classified markings, during a search of former Vice President Mike Pence’s Indiana home.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/10/2023 8:49 PM
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
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THATS COMEDY MOVIE TYPE EVIL
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/10/2023 9:05 PM
THE FUCK
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This is 99 Dalmatians level of horrific
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knuckles
The only thing that I know of in Europe besides Stonehenge is some dirt mounds in Bosnia
That's entirely bupkiss.
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Also hyperdiffusionism is nonsense.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/10/2023 9:41 PM
aaalright, another word i gotta look up
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ah
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i get it now
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Also hyperdiffusionism is nonsense.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/10/2023 9:42 PM
yeah it is nonsense
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Also hyperdiffusionism is nonsense.
The heck is hyperdiffusionism?
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The heck is hyperdiffusionism?
AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/10/2023 9:49 PM
Hyperdiffusionism is a pseudoarchaeological hypothesis suggesting that certain historical technologies or ideas originated with a single people or civilization before their adoption by other cultures. Thus, all great civilizations that share similar cultural practices, such as construction of pyramids, derived them from a single common progenito...
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Good lord that is stupid
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Oh and here is the Bosnian pyramids and why they are pseudoarcheology. Forgive me, studying pseudoarcheology is a hobby of mine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_pyramid_claims
The Bosnian pyramid complex is a pseudoarchaeological notion to explain the formation of a cluster of natural hills in the area of Visoko in central Bosnia and Herzegovina. Since 2005, Semir Osmanagić, a Bosnian-American businessman based in Houston, Texas, has claimed that these hills are the largest human-made ancient pyramids on Earth. His cl...
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Oh and here is the Bosnian pyramids and why they are pseudoarcheology. Forgive me, studying pseudoarcheology is a hobby of mine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_pyramid_claims
AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/10/2023 9:52 PM
don't blame you, its like studying ants...very stupid ants
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It's also useful for writing up homebrew for call of chuthulu or mage the ascension.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/10/2023 9:57 PM
fair point
9:57 PM
learn from the crazy to write crazy
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Is anybody else wondering if there's classified documents on Clinton, Bush or Obama properties?
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If they've been found on Trump, Pence and Biden's properties
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(although the Trump & Pence ones are the most concerning)
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50-75% sure there might be
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Also Dick Cheney, Al Gore
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James Danforth Quayle
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Could've been "Jim Quayle" but I guess he decided on "Dan Quayle"
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/10/2023 10:50 PM
Ronald Reagan
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If he hasn't been already.
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It's possible
10:51 PM
unlikely though
10:52 PM
I don't think there's any real chance Carter (or Mondale's family too) have any
10:52 PM
Now I wonder if the descendants of dead presidents have secret documents hidden in some safe that gets passed down through generations
10:53 PM
Something actually secret and not known by the public, the government, historians etc
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Illegal or not
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shrugs who knows
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"trump subpoenaed!" "pence investigated!" Fuck you, news media. Let me know when there's arrests or major court hearings or something
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Stop edging me for two years straight
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Chances are low, but even in France they put a recent ex-president in jail
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/10/2023 11:00 PM
that's how they get their money man
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Probably rich person jail, but it's something
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/10/2023 11:01 PM
make all the articles saying "thing could happen!" and they get money because you view advertisements on the page (edited)
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Fuck it, I'm getting my information from Conservapedia from now on
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Fuck it, I'm getting my information from Conservapedia from now on
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/10/2023 11:03 PM
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It's a really funny site ngl
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Even though it's supposed to be serious
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Is anybody else wondering if there's classified documents on Clinton, Bush or Obama properties?
AvoidOblivion 2/10/2023 11:25 PM
What about buried in the grave of Ivana after her "accidental" death?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/11/2023 3:32 AM
The memo, from Texas Gov. Greg Abbott's office, said diversity efforts in hiring "proactively encourage discrimination."
3:33 AM
Really, Abbott? That's what your focusing on right now?
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BubsyFanboy 2/11/2023 7:20 AM
WARSAW, Poland (AP) — Poland’s President Andrzej Duda said Friday he is sending a controversial new law on judicial accountability for constitutional review instead of rejecting it, because it could help unfreeze billions in European Union funds earmarked for Poland.
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Is anybody else wondering if there's classified documents on Clinton, Bush or Obama properties?
I think this is just a case of document proliferation. When someone leaves government, just make them clean out their house. It's a security problem.
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The problem with reporting on problematic bills is that the news does not name the people who support such bills on a state level in the state congresses. I do not know who to call or email with my grievances. Other than the entire republican party of this state. I diffuses responsibility, I just want to know who is the primary source of the bills in question. I want to know who is responsible.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/11/2023 3:22 PM
200 students walked out of class at an Alabama high school after they were reportedly told their student-led Black History Month program could not reference slavery or the civil rights movement "because one of our administrators felt uncomfortable" https://t.co/75aqp1HvjA
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/11/2023 4:12 PM
Pete Buttigieg’s Transportation Department has no plans to revive an Obama-era safety rule that could help prevent future train accidents.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/11/2023 4:15 PM
we have a killer on the run
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If you want to see it at a more conspiratorial level
4:16 PM
This could be a move to make trains even more unpopular in the states
6:03 PM
These guys are such trolls, I love it
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/11/2023 6:17 PM
LPNH is so bad they got shunned by basically every other branch of the libertarian party iirc
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/11/2023 7:36 PM
Lmfao
7:36 PM
you know shit gets BAD
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arent these also the "libertarians have real solutions: 1. repeal the civil rights act"
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arent these also the "libertarians have real solutions: 1. repeal the civil rights act"
Also responsible for making a community under siege by bears.
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Like not even joking.
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People literally getting killed by bears marauding into homes.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/12/2023 12:30 AM
Wasn't the book about that posted here?
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Yup.
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I found the story in 2020 I think... but yes good read.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/12/2023 12:33 AM
There's a fine line between being optimistic and dangerously naive.
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And Libertarians pole vault over it.
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I'm pretty sure there's a "Free State Project" still going
12:33 AM
getting libertarians to go to NH
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although the LP NH Twitter was taken over by Hoppeans
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
And Libertarians pole vault over it.
While simultaneously running right into the wall clearly marked with "Hitting this wall makes you a fucking racist fascist asshole." (edited)
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While simultaneously running right into the wall clearly marked with "Hitting this wall makes you a fucking racist fascist asshole." (edited)
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/12/2023 12:35 AM
Oh yeah. One thing I particularly remember of my Libertarian friends in college was how they didn't hate trans folk but just wished hospitals would stop mutilating kids because they might get over their gender dysphoria.
12:36 AM
I wanted to deck them both and shout "THAT'S NOT HOW ANY OF THAT WORKS!!".
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Oh yeah. One thing I particularly remember of my Libertarian friends in college was how they didn't hate trans folk but just wished hospitals would stop mutilating kids because they might get over their gender dysphoria.
Libertarians doing Libertarian things.
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I wanted to deck them both and shout "THAT'S NOT HOW ANY OF THAT WORKS!!".
I'm not sure I would have not done so.
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Isn't that a non-issue anyways? I don't think you can get reassignment surgery when you're a minor, yet conservatives and other right wingers love to bitch about it as if it happens every day (edited)
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Isn't that a non-issue anyways? I don't think you can get reassignment surgery when you're a minor, yet conservatives and other right wingers love to bitch about it as if it happens every day (edited)
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/12/2023 12:37 AM
The lowest age is sixteen and you have to have a note of consent from both the parents and a doctor.
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I'm not sure I would have not done so.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/12/2023 12:37 AM
Well, the teacher was still in the room, so...
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yeah
It's also almost never done in a hospital. Most surgeons who do that have their own private surgical suites... specifically because hospital regulations prevent a lot of plastic surgery.
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Well, the teacher was still in the room, so...
Fair... but when I was in college I was as old as many of the non-tenured professors.
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So I don't know that that would have stopped me.
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Also most of my profs were anthropologists so they might have just turned their backs.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/12/2023 12:40 AM
Ironically, something that happened to them also solidified my disillusionment with cops because one of them had a stalker that got so bad he was sneaking into class to get close to them. The campus police's response? "Well, maybe he just likes you. You know how boys are."
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My favorite professor was my Magic Religion and Witchcraft prof... opened the class day one with a discussion on female genital mutilation. There were 24 people in class that day (Monday). Wednesday we had 6.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/12/2023 12:41 AM
Excuse me, officer, maybe that's how YOU are but not the rest of us.
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Excuse me, officer, maybe that's how YOU are but not the rest of us.
Well they literally are not legally required to protect anyone who isn't actively in their custody... so they have to justify it somehow.
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@Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy It was perfect... that class isn't for people who are unable to divorce themselves of their particular ethics... you have to be able to take in the "why" something happens and understand it.
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You don't need to agree with it... but you do have to acknowledge the reasons something culturally developed.
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The people who didn't come back were expecting some easy credit where they study a few rare religious practices... the 6 who were left really wanted to understand why humans human.
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Why humans mutilate genitals
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Since you took the class, can you tell me why?
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Since you took the class, can you tell me why?
It's complicated, as of the time of that class, most indications of why it still occurred was because the women of the culture who had it done to them demanded that their daughters go through the same thing. A combination of the belief that they are purified by it, and it being a right of passage. (edited)
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Most men in the cultures in question interviewed (over 90%) thought it was barbaric and horrible and didn't want their daughters to experience it.
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How it came about is a much longer story... and involves the religious belief that women's enjoyment of sex is a temptation sent by the forces of evil to coerce men into sin.
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But that's really the simple answer.
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There are hundreds of papers which go into specific regional origin points for the practice and the varying severity of the mutilation by region and culture.
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There are anthropologists who literally did their doctorate on the subject. Incidentally a few of those pioneered what is called "Applied Anthropology". Specifically as a means of using Anthropological study to find the most effective way of guiding cultural change.
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I was working on a variant of Applied Anthropology specific to changing US culture with regards to extremist ideology and how to turn away people from trying to apply it to government with my mother before she got cancer.
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@knuckles for context my mother was an Anthropologist who focused on indigenous cultures of North and Central America... specifically in relationship to how they opposed and adapted to colonization by Europeans.
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We wanted to find a way to more effectively turn people away from colonizer beliefs and foster growth of collectivist/egalitarian beliefs within the general population of the US.
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Sadly on the subject of Applied Anthropology... it's been applied more to marketing than what it was intended for.
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And sadly I lost my mother to cancer before we could make a whole lot of headway on our project. (edited)
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That being said, everything we did talk about and research has gone into another 6 years of my own study to try to half ass an attempt on my own. Which is why I promote what I promote and work to do what I do. Why I believe that building collective replacements for for-profit infrastructure even if it's on a small scale, is the right way to move to promote change. People need their survival needs met. They are willing to work to do it. If you can create a community where they can do something they "want" to do and get full value in return for their efforts... it will appeal to most people. You just need to show them it's possible to break them of their conscious reliance on the existing system... maybe one in ten will become early adopters of the ideas and either join others or create their own variant. Another 2-3 will join as they see it works in person, and 3-4 more will join in as the existing system collapses. The reason so many will do so is because that sort of system is in line with our genetic development particularly in interpersonal interactions. It will feel more natural to them.
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BREAKING: A "unidentified flying object" has been spotted in the waters near the coastal city of Rizhao in China's Shandong Province. Authorities are preparing to shoot it down, Local maritime authorities say - Global Times
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Ball in your camp china
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AvoidOblivion 2/12/2023 9:38 PM
Moscow, Feb 13 (UNI) NATO websites were targeted by a cyberattack on Sunday, German news agency dpa reported, citing the bloc''s spokesperson.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/12/2023 11:55 PM
A dozen people with links to a French far-right group went on trial on Tuesday, accused of plotting to assassinate President Emmanuel Macron and commit a string of other attacks.
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They're really stepping it up.
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They're really stepping it up.
Funny thing is... Macron is pretty fucking fash himself behind his mask.
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Funny thing is... Macron is pretty fucking fash himself behind his mask.
From watching the situation very closely (i am a French speaking belgian so we almost care more about French elections than our own lol) I can confirm that
6:52 AM
Most of his party are disgusting social traitors
6:53 AM
They were part of the French socialist party until 2017 (macron himself was a minister of Hollande), and while the left wing of the party (the "frondeurs") opposed the neoliberal government, Holland and his governments literally ignored parliament (article 49.3 of the constitution, government doesn't care about parliamentary vote, but parliament can oust them, which is just too risky of a maneuver)
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After 2017 since the PS was insanely unpopular they made their new party and despite no program, were first in the polls thanks to media help
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Against Le Pen it was easy to win the second round
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Now the guys who used to be in the PS call the current PS (now allied in a true leftist coalition) "lobotomised by the far left"
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And while they have done some progressive laws here and there, they also complain about the "wokes"
6:57 AM
So we are getting to the point where the electorate is "well is the far right really worse than macron? At least they oppose the retirement age change too"
6:57 AM
The media is hard bent on making it a macron v le Pen and I bet in 1 or 2 election cycles she can be president
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Black Magic 2/13/2023 7:43 AM
So. The Chinese Response to the Balloon Mishap shows us that the Chinese Government isn't talking to it self. For what ever reason, the Diplomatic response shows the Diplomatic department isn't in contact with the rest of the Government.
7:45 AM
Also the very idea of using a balloon, and this is just speculation, but it screams that some one in high position thought they were being clever, and No one had the authority to tell them no, or even ask serious questions.
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It worked for awhile apparently which makes that even more terrifying!
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Black Magic 2/13/2023 7:46 AM
Imagine your self for a moment in the seat of U.S. Intel
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there's good reasons to tell the president not to blow it up.
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For one, by watching it, we get to figure out what it's doing. What kind of information it's trying to gather. who it's sending signals too and how.
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Knowing what kind of questions the Chinese were trying to answer tells us ALOT about the state of their intelligence network
7:48 AM
and its probably not hard to prep the sites ahead of the baloons path to ensure we don't leak any vital intelligence
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Which to my understanding is what the gvmt did. Only surprise there was that information about the balloon was given so quiclly
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Black Magic 2/13/2023 7:53 AM
Even knowing how many phones are connected to a cell tower is potentially valuable intel even if you cnt get access to the data it self.
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There are teams of extremely clever people who spend their day expertly working backwards from clues, in ways that puts the mythical sherlock to shame. (edited)
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Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu, who is close to Itamar Ben Gvir and the father of a far-right minister, says disaster 'cleanses the world, makes it better'; some rabbis aghast at comments
10:31 AM
Is there Jewish excommunication? If so, can we get enough rabbis to make this guy an outcast?
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Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is set to propose legislation that would block any state pension investment banking decisions he and his Republican allies in leadership consider "woke," Orlando Sentinel reports. The proposal announced this week "would block all investment decisions based on 'environme...
11:07 AM
it appears that fascist economics are starting to immerge in the US.
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I don't understand how this dude can so blatantly punish people for their politics
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I don't understand how this dude can so blatantly punish people for their politics
Because half of American voters only have that for politics? "Own the libs"?
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Fair
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/14/2023 12:21 PM
Things are going to get really bad....that flag just says it all
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Things are going to get really bad....that flag just says it all
what?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/14/2023 12:47 PM
"Don't tread on florida" people who use the 'Don:t tread on me' are often fash disguising themselves as Libertarians
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or Libertarians who are just, bad people in general
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I think the Gadsden flag is easy to take from people who are authoritarian
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I remember this one account called "Liberty Hangout" or something and they used libertarian and ancap symbolism almost exclusively while making the most batshit insane posts about making Trump a monarch and how America should be a Catholic theocratic monarchy
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and they weren't even joking
12:51 PM
but they kept using "liberty" and the Gadsden flag for some reason despite them not even attempting to masquerade as libertarian or anarchist any more
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Ah yeah poopy pants girl
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and everyone saw right through it because of how antithetical it is
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but they kept using "liberty" and the Gadsden flag for some reason despite them not even attempting to masquerade as libertarian or anarchist any more
Being against liberty is just not socially acceptable that's all
12:52 PM
Same reason the Nazis called themselves socialists in the party name, it was just popular branding at the time
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The only "libertarians" to support them were the Hoppeans, who are just an insane weird authoritarian-ancap hybrid
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like "the only way to have true freedom and anarchy is to 'physically remove' authoritarians" meaning they want to execute communists and fascists
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and then some were just actual fascists who called themselves Hoppeans
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Which is fine and dandy until you call everyone you don't like a nazi or a communist
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"Don't tread on florida" people who use the 'Don:t tread on me' are often fash disguising themselves as Libertarians
ahh, weird
1:08 PM
what wull desantis do next?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/14/2023 1:09 PM
idfk
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probably more transphobic/homophobic/racist shit
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i think it might be either greater economic control
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or jailings
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or a run of propaganda
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More likely try to push AP courses out of FL entirely since college board shot back at his bs
2:36 PM
he might try to implement more anti education policy
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/14/2023 6:19 PM
OH BOY, time to hear how another good looking plane is actually a hot piece of junk https://youtube.com/shorts/hHHwQtkaq5c?feature=share
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AIF Cuirassier regiment
OH BOY, time to hear how another good looking plane is actually a hot piece of junk https://youtube.com/shorts/hHHwQtkaq5c?feature=share
Let's take the old plans we got from the US for the B-1B... and fuck them up.
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Matt Walsh and Ben Sharpo being pissy over asexuals today
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/15/2023 3:02 AM
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/15/2023 3:10 AM
The former president wants to expand the use of the death penalty, and expand the federal government’s options for carrying out death sentences
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This is how you get cops shot in the street
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"Don't tread on florida" people who use the 'Don:t tread on me' are often fash disguising themselves as Libertarians
BubsyFanboy 2/15/2023 8:42 AM
Speaking of, Vermin Supreme recently denounced LPUSA. Guess the Mises Caucus is insuffereable for him too.
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BubsyFanboy 2/15/2023 8:43 AM
Someone's been copying the Nazis lately...
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As fucked as that is. It's the worst thing they can do. They got maybe 5-10% of the population that's half to all the way on board with them as is. With 30% only sorta accepting it because it's better than Libs. Do that and the numbers drop by 90%.
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provided, I argue leftists should absolutely weaponize this if the Supreme court decides to strike down section 230
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literally this makes the net prone to getting SLAPPed
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but we could use this to our advantage...namely SLAPPing right wing sites and circles for libel
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Group executions are horrible but ngl firing squad is probably cheaper, quicker and less painful than the shitty way they do lethal injections today ... but it's better to solve that by just doing lethal injections in a better way
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They choose these rare and expensive chemicals to use, and sometimes it doesn't work and the person is immobilized but awake and in agony for a while
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It's insane
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ofc I'd rather get rid of the death penalty altogether, but if we're gonna have it, we might as well do it right
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like fucking hell, how much trouble is it for them to get anesthesia for surgery to put them to sleep and then some cyanide? Or maybe it's more complicated than that, idk
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The Buffalo shooter got life in prison btw. Idk if it was said here yet
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I say "shooter" but he was a racist terrorist, not just a regular mass shooter
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The Buffalo shooter got life in prison btw. Idk if it was said here yet
floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/15/2023 2:30 PM
good
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life in prison and the death sentence are the same thing but your punishment is shorter with the death penalty
2:31 PM
you’re not getting out of prison either way but you’re only in punitive confinement for a few years at most with the death penalty if you don’t appeal it (edited)
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I don't support state retribution of any kind. But a simple bullet stops a rapist or murderer from ever doing it again.
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Any state retribution will be subject to the whims and desires of a small minority of the population as they apply it to the masses, largely without their consent. But the victim or victims advocate can speak and act directly for the victim.
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you’re not getting out of prison either way but you’re only in punitive confinement for a few years at most with the death penalty if you don’t appeal it (edited)
Don't forget that life in prison means decades of state expenditure of victim's tax money at the rate of 7 times or more the average income of a citizen per year.
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It costs some 400k to keep someone in prison at cost to the state. Per year.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/15/2023 3:53 PM
Former Vice President and rumored 2024 presidential contender Mike Pence said “we need to” ban abortion pills in audio obtained by Jezebel. The comments came during a book signing event on Monday in Houston, Texas.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/15/2023 3:54 PM
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how about no
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It costs some 400k to keep someone in prison at cost to the state. Per year.
That's ridiculous
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Imo it should depend on the type of prisoner. Like if someone is getting life in jail without parole, we should spend the bare minimum possible on them
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For a minor crime? Spend a bunch on rehabilitation
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Corrective, rehabilitative justice not just punitive justice
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AvoidOblivion 2/15/2023 5:32 PM
"We need to ban medicine."
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/15/2023 5:40 PM
the urge to
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Capitalism is the current system in most countries. This is how it works basically. Individuals can own private property. Let's say you own a house, for example. You have a deed that formally, legally says that you own said house. You pay taxes on the house to the government, and in exchange, the government protects it by force. This means that if some stranger breaks into your house, burns it down intentionally, steals things from it, etc., the police will come and forcefully take this person away & lock them up. Now since you live there, this property is residential. Now, let's say you have a lot of money. Hundreds of thousands of dollars. So you buy a bunch of empty land that is good for farming. This is also private property, but it is commercial because you intend to use it for producing and selling goods. You buy the land, then you buy machinery, tools, seeds, water, sprinklers and other farming necessities. This, along with the land, is also your legal property and because it is used to produce goods, they are means of production. So you got all your stuff set up, now you need workers to prepare the fields, plant the seeds, water them, harvest them, repair the machines and so forth. So you get a bunch of people and pay them each a wage, let's say $12 per hour and they each work eight hours a day, five days a week for a total of 40 hours a week. You're at a net loss right now. You lost money by buying the land and the equipment and now you're losing money each week by paying your workers ($12/hour, 40 hours a week, so $480 a week per person). These are expenses. So, you need to make revenue/income in order to have a net gain, or profit. So, you have your workers grow the crops and harvest them and then you sell them to other companies like bakeries, mills, grocery stores and other places which sell them to the end consumers, individuals like you and your workers who purchase (consume) products. .
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These companies pay you money, let's say you earn $100,000 a week. Now once the amount of money you spent on the land and the equipment is regained, you are making a net gain. However, you continue to pay expenses constantly, the most important of which being taxes and your workers' wages. You have 10 employees, so each week you spend $4,800 on payroll. Your remaining profit is $5,200 (before taxes are taken out; just for the sake of simplicity). This is your money (or technically your company's money; once again, this is simplified). Let's say you decide to sell the crops you produce to a company in another country because they're offering to pay you more money. So you sell the crops to this company and ship them to the foreign country. This is exporting. Now, let's say it's cheaper to use machinery made by a company in another foreign country, like China. So you buy machines from this company and have them shipped to your farm in America. This is importing. On a global scale, imports and exports make up what is known as international trade, with "trade" simply meaning buying, selling and exchanging goods and currency. If a country imports more than it exports, it is at a trade deficit. This generally has negative connotations because it means that a country relies on other countries in order to get its goods. The country you sell your crops to, for example, may not be able to produce enough crops of its own, therefore companies there need to purchase from foreign countries like America. The opposite of this—when a country exports more than they import—that is a trade surplus. It is generally considered positive, because it means your country has enough goods for itself plus extra (a surplus) to sell away to other nations. .
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The government is run like a business in many ways. Taxes are its income. The taxes you pay on your properties, the taxes you and your workers pay on your income, the taxes you pay when you ship your goods to a foreign nation—these are how governments make their money. Governments have expenses as well. They pay public workers like legislators, police officers, public school teachers, firefighters and soldiers. They invest in building and maintaining infrastructure like public roads and railroads. They invest in public services like garbage collection and animal control, as well as aforementioned things like policing and public schooling. In economics, anything "public" is basically anything to do with the government, especially any services the government offers to the public. But your farm? That is in the private sector of the economy. You are the private owner of your private property and business. Your workers are private citizens. However, because you are still under the government's jurisdiction and the government protects your farm from thieves, arsonists and the like, you are taxed and regulated by them. Capitalism is a broad system and there are various political and economic theories and beliefs regarding how things should specifically be run. Generally, there are two categories under which economic policies fall: Left-wing and right-wing. The left wants more government involvement in the economy. It wants more taxation, more government spending and more government regulation. It is more collectivist than individualist. It advocates more for "negative freedom," meaning "freedom from," rather than "positive freedom" / "freedom to." For example, they believe it is better to be "free from pollution" meaning that the government should intervene in order to prevent companies from polluting than to have the freedom to pollute. There is a big elephant in the room though:
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Socialism and communism are "left-wing," often called "far-left." I will get to them later. For now, I am talking about this strictly within the framework of capitalism. There are various "left-wing" capitalist ideologies. Social democracy and progressivism are the main ones. In America, it also known as liberalism, however this can be confusing because the right-wing is known as "liberal" abroad, although there are other words for the right such as "libertarian" or "right-libertarian," and there is also the important term of "classical liberal." In America, the Democratic Party consists of social democrats, progressives and American liberals. It is the left-wing of the capitalist system in America. The right-wing generally wants the opposite. Their ideas are more "laissez-faire," a French term in economics basically meaning "hands-off." Less taxation, less government spending, less government regulation, more individualism, more "freedom to" than "freedom from," — ultimately, less government involvement in the economy. There are a range of beliefs with anarcho-capitalism and (right-)libertarianism being the most extreme. In America, the right-wing is the Republican Party and they are generally called conservatives. However, recently, there have been more left-wing (meaning "more government involvement in the economy" in this case) economic beliefs being popularized by right-wing politicians such as Donald Trump, namely protectionism. Protectionism is the idea that the government should have high taxes on imports (tariffs) and should punish companies for outsourcing (meaning moving factories and therefore jobs to foreign countries like Mexico and China, where less taxation and regulation allows them to make goods cheaper and faster in order to increase profits) or implement measures like tax breaks to persuade companies to stay in America. Thus "protecting" American industry.
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The opposite of protectionism is free trade. The terms "free trade" and "free market" imply less government intervention. Less taxes, especially less or no tariffs, and less regulations. No punishment for outsourcing and often no persuasion for not outsourcing either. This allows companies to move across the world more easily and promotes more trade between countries. It was the main economic ideology of the Republican Party for a long time and still is in some factions.
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Over time, governments across the world, especially in the United States but even moreso in Europe, have become more left-wing economically. Taxes, spending and regulation in 1823 was nothing compared to 1923, and 1923 is nothing compared to 2023. The left-wing believes that the government should expand and utilize its powers in order to protect vulnerable citizens, the environment and smaller businesses. For example, in the late 1800s, monopolies were practically legal and quite common. One company would get rich enough to buy out the competition and rapidly expand, and then it would buy all the companies along the production chain. It would be like if you bought out all rival farms so all grocery stores have to buy your crops, and then you buy out all the farm machinery companies, and then the delivery companies shipping your crops to the stores, and eventually possibly even the stores themselves. This would give you total control over the farming industry. Workers back then had little-to-no protections. You pay them $12 an hour now, but you could've paid them $12 per day back then if you wanted to, or even $1 per day. Rival companies could increase their pay to attract more employees, but if you buy out all the rivals first, then who could do such a thing? Your employees work 8 hours a day too, but back then you could've made them work 12 hours a day if you wanted to. Or 10 hours or 16 hours; it was up to you. The left-wing argued that this was total and unreasonable exploitation, and that it was not allowing for any fair competition, thus it was not really a "free market" system. So they implemented laws starting in the 1890-1920 period to break up monopolies, increase workers' rights and so forth. This continued throughout the years periodically. 1933-52 and 1960-69 were not able periods of left-wing rule in America. They established social safety nets, things like unemployment and Social Security.
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That was my unnecessarily long and yet still very simplified explanation of capitalism
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It's not even complete imo (edited)
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Communism will be next
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Ooo
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I have written one on communism a few months ago!
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During the American and French Revolutions (1765–1800), philosophers, politicians and economists had varying ideas on where things would go in the future, after feudalism and monarchy fell. The terms "socialism" and "communism" were first coined and used during this time to describe a future state of society in which people would collectively own the land, tools and machinery, and would work together as a community to provide for each other. Other people disagreed and created/promoted the (more dominant) ideas of individualism, (classical) liberalism and capitalism. They envisioned a society in which individuals could privately own land, tools and machinery, and could hire people to work for them and then buy and sell the products of this labor. This is what came out on top and is what the United States implemented. The US also adopted a "laissez-faire" (meaning "hands-off") approach to the economy; people believed it wasn't the government's job to get too involved in economic matters. However, over the following decades, more people came to believe that government intervention in the economy was necessary. During the early-to-mid 1800s, the socialists/communists were split on the issue of how to achieve a socialist/communist society. During 1836-46, a socialist named Karl Marx (died 1883) began to get involved in politics, philosophy and economics and began developing what would later be known as "Marxism." This was a very radical form of socialism/communism that advocated for the violent overthrow of the capitalist class by the working class. Other socialists were vehemently opposed to Marxism and created or promoted forms of anarchism instead. (It's much more complicated than just this, but I'm simplifying).
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Fast forward
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I am writing more
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It is 1900-17. Marxism has spread to Russia along with other ideas like social democracy. A man named Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, who goes by the name Lenin begins to create his own theories based on Marxism. Other men, such as Leon Bronstein (Trotsky) and Joseph Dzhugashvili (Stalin), joined him and formed what became known as the Bolsheviks. They were radical Russian communists who believed that a group of "professional revolutionaries" must awaken the masses and take full control of the country and its economy as the "vanguard party." They succeeded and after a revolution and civil war (1917-24), they took complete control over Russia and some surrounding nations, forming the Soviet Union. Lenin was its first ruler, and after his death, Stalin took control and forced Trotsky to go into hiding. During the era of 1917-53, there was a process of collectivization. All private property—all the farms and factories, all the stores and markets—were under the direct control of the government led by the Bolsheviks. The economy became centrally planned, meaning the state gave orders to the managers and workers on what they should produce, how much they should produce and how quickly they should do so. Payment was often in rations of food, which was seized from farms and redistributed. Money still existed in the USSR though, and there was still some buying and selling of goods, especially after Stalin died in 1953. This was Leninism (or "Marxism-Leninism") and Stalinism in action. Instead of true workers' ownership, there was state ownership of the economy, of the property and of the means of production. It was attempted in various forms in various countries, but always failed eventually. The countries that succeeded, such as China, were ones that liberalized and adopted capitalistic policies over time, privatizing their industries and allowing for more business freedom.
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The theory was that the government would be a workers' government, a "dictatorship of the proletariat" which would represent the interests of the working people. It ended up just being a dictatorship of the party. The "vanguard party" just used their power to enrich themselves and keep all opposition down as their system struggled to survive.
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So,
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across the world, especially in Europe and America, many other socialists and communists, even self-proclaimed Marxists, advocated against Leninism and the USSR. They envisioned societies where workers really have direct control over their businesses. This was not really implemented on a large scale in many places, but it was attempted in varying degrees. Yugoslavia under the dictatorship of Josip Broz Tito was one of them. Parts of Spain during the 1936-39 civil war as well. Some African countries tried similar ideas too, I believe Burkina Faso and Tanzania are among them. (edited)
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Today, the goal of many American socialists and communists, is to have a system where workers own the businesses and the means of production, and use them to benefit the collective. Those who want the government to have the control (i.e. Marxist-Leninists, Stalinists, Maoists) are not welcome in our server. (edited)
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There have been many other alternative economic theories as well that are similar to this but have not been implemented. Distributism, geoism/Georgism, syndicalism and mutualism are among them. (edited)
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Capitalism is the current system in most countries. This is how it works basically. Individuals can own private property. Let's say you own a house, for example. You have a deed that formally, legally says that you own said house. You pay taxes on the house to the government, and in exchange, the government protects it by force. This means that if some stranger breaks into your house, burns it down intentionally, steals things from it, etc., the police will come and forcefully take this person away & lock them up. Now since you live there, this property is residential. Now, let's say you have a lot of money. Hundreds of thousands of dollars. So you buy a bunch of empty land that is good for farming. This is also private property, but it is commercial because you intend to use it for producing and selling goods. You buy the land, then you buy machinery, tools, seeds, water, sprinklers and other farming necessities. This, along with the land, is also your legal property and because it is used to produce goods, they are means of production. So you got all your stuff set up, now you need workers to prepare the fields, plant the seeds, water them, harvest them, repair the machines and so forth. So you get a bunch of people and pay them each a wage, let's say $12 per hour and they each work eight hours a day, five days a week for a total of 40 hours a week. You're at a net loss right now. You lost money by buying the land and the equipment and now you're losing money each week by paying your workers ($12/hour, 40 hours a week, so $480 a week per person). These are expenses. So, you need to make revenue/income in order to have a net gain, or profit. So, you have your workers grow the crops and harvest them and then you sell them to other companies like bakeries, mills, grocery stores and other places which sell them to the end consumers, individuals like you and your workers who purchase (consume) products. .
Start up here, @𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐. It is very simplified but still includes a lot of details, likely unnecessary ones, but please ask me questions about any you don't understand or don't agree with
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Everyone here please give feedback
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This is me writing almost entirely from memory
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State or CEO/Board it amounts to the same authoritarian ideology.
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And I have no college education in the field
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Particularly because "democracy" within "capitalism" is universally just bribery of politicians by Capitalists. Using fancy terms like "Lobbying".
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Start up here, @𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐. It is very simplified but still includes a lot of details, likely unnecessary ones, but please ask me questions about any you don't understand or don't agree with
𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 2/15/2023 7:58 PM
So, another question I have is, what does "woke" mean? And is it a good or a bad thing?
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Your choices in the world today are. Means of production controlled by an Oligarchy. (Literally every country on earth currently... with the only variation being between whether or not the oligarchy controls the government, or the government is the oligarchy.) Live where they have rebelled and created an egalitarian collective structure. (Currently that I know of there are only three, A collective community inside India but autonomous from it, The Zapatista Controlled section of Chiapas Mexico, and Kurdish territory within Syria).
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"woke" was originally used in Black nationalist and conspiracy theorist circles to mean someone who was like-minded to them (AKA "awake"). But then it somehow became associated with anything socially liberal or progressive, or anything perceived as such. It is a buzzword. Anything could be "woke." Having a gay character in a TV show, for example, is "woke." It generally has negative connotations
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So, another question I have is, what does "woke" mean? And is it a good or a bad thing?
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/15/2023 8:00 PM
"Woke" refers to being aware of the problems within society and attempting to fix them.
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^ that's the definition Florida Governor Ron DeSantis's lawyer came up with
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and he is self-proclaimed "anti-woke"
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/15/2023 8:01 PM
Repubs (and some Dems) hate this because they'd rather sweep those problems under the rug while profiting off the misery they cause.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 2/15/2023 8:01 PM
From my observations, conservatives use it as an insult, leftists use it as a compliment.
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Yes ^
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That is true
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"woke" was originally used in Black nationalist and conspiracy theorist circles to mean someone who was like-minded to them (AKA "awake"). But then it somehow became associated with anything socially liberal or progressive, or anything perceived as such. It is a buzzword. Anything could be "woke." Having a gay character in a TV show, for example, is "woke." It generally has negative connotations
I don't think it was specific to Black Nationalist or conspiracy circles. My earliest experiences with the term were average everyday black folk calling out ignorant ass white folk who needed to get woke to figure out they were fucking blind.
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Although leftists generally use it in a joking fashion
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I don't think it was specific to Black Nationalist or conspiracy circles. My earliest experiences with the term were average everyday black folk calling out ignorant ass white folk who needed to get woke to figure out they were fucking blind.
Ah.
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Ah.
This was about 30 years ago.
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I'm probably wrong then. That's just where I saw it used before it became a mainstream thing
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Yeahhhh my experience was like ten years ago
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To about 20... when it started getting used to describe more social justice awareness.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 2/15/2023 8:03 PM
So, when altright extremists rant about "woke propaganda" in the media, what exactly do they mean?
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐
So, when altright extremists rant about "woke propaganda" in the media, what exactly do they mean?
Just a couple years ago.
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Anything depicting homosexuality, interracial couples, disabled people...
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at least in a positive light
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 2/15/2023 8:03 PM
Ohhh
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that sounds about right
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/15/2023 8:03 PM
Anything that isn't straight, white, and christian.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐
So, when altright extremists rant about "woke propaganda" in the media, what exactly do they mean?
They claim that exposing people to social justice topics threatens white supremacy. (edited)
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anything depicting anything socially liberal/progressive or anything to do with any kind of minorities (racial, religious, sexual, etc)
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Though they don't say it like I put it.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 2/15/2023 8:04 PM
What are they against gay people, interracial couples, and disabled people for?
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Having a gay character in a TV show is "woke" and "indoctrinating kids to be gay"
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Because they see these people as threats to their own power and their own system
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐
What are they against gay people, interracial couples, and disabled people for?
Because in general social justice/human rights is a threat to their ability to murder people they don't like.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 2/15/2023 8:05 PM
Those groups never did anything, so why are they so frowned upon?
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐
Those groups never did anything, so why are they so frowned upon?
They are a tool to "other" someone to get people like them engaged against an enemy.
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Some are average people who are simply fooled by propaganda (not saying they're victims though; and just saying they're dumbasses but not necessarily powerful) claiming shit like "people want to make the White race go extinct!" or whatever
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐
Those groups never did anything, so why are they so frowned upon?
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/15/2023 8:06 PM
Because they aren't straight, white, and christian.
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Conservatives absolutely cannot stand anyone or any ideology other than their own existing.
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That too. Get people distracted from real issues and riled up about these fake ones focused on people who don't have much real power
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 2/15/2023 8:07 PM
It's not like gay and disabled people had a choice to be different... I really don't get why altrights are so pressed about their existence.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Because they aren't straight, white, and christian.
Even that's just a tool. Fascism occurs in countries where there aren't any Cis-Het White Christians. There their "master race/society" is something different.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/15/2023 8:07 PM
Also of note, @𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐, their definition of "communist" means basically anyone left of Reagan.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Also of note, @𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐, their definition of "communist" means basically anyone left of Reagan.
Which is to say "left" of someone who thinks poor folks should starve to death or freeze to death, or die of disease. (edited)
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Even that's just a tool. Fascism occurs in countries where there aren't any Cis-Het White Christians. There their "master race/society" is something different.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/15/2023 8:08 PM
I know, I was referring specifically to the American brand of fash.
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like they'll claim gay people have more privilege than straight people and that they are attempting to force homosexuality on your children and then somehow lead it into pedophilia, so that gets people angry. These people believe that being gay is a choice despite scientific evidence proving the opposite. What's their response? "Scientists make these lies up because they have an agenda, or they're paid off, or they don't want to offend gay people and be socially outcasted, or becahse opposing science is suppressed because gays want to suppress it"
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
I know, I was referring specifically to the American brand of fash.
Fair... but even here white Christian is just a tool of convenience ... because that's the largest segment of the population... the largest recruiting pool.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 2/15/2023 8:09 PM
Huh? Why do they associate homosexuality with pedophilia??
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I never understood that
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It gets people angry
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐
Huh? Why do they associate homosexuality with pedophilia??
Just a propaganda tool.
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Makes them riled up against gays
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/15/2023 8:09 PM
Same with trans people,.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 2/15/2023 8:09 PM
ESPECIALLY trans people
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The people passing that message don't actually believe transfolks or homosexuals are pedos... they just know the stupid people they talk to will believe it.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/15/2023 8:10 PM
They need an excuse for their base to murder anyone that isn't them.
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It's the reason Hitler came up with "blood libel" for the Jewish people.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 2/15/2023 8:11 PM
I often see a lot of them saying how trans people are "turning kids trans," so what do they mean by "turning them" trans?
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This is a British cartoon but it depicts it perfectly
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Literally if we confronted 200 fash on the street... none of them would be anything but a puppet conditioned by the people who are actually trying to take over the country.
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Not one of them would be a leader of anything after the fact.
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Admittedly some do believe it, but it doesn't matter because they refuse to accept outside info that doesn't already conform to their belief.
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Admittedly some do believe it, but it doesn't matter because they refuse to accept outside info that doesn't already conform to their belief.
Possibly, but it's more likely they are just mouthpieces of the people who told them to say it.
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This is a British cartoon but it depicts it perfectly
𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 2/15/2023 8:12 PM
Oh I think I understand!
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐
I often see a lot of them saying how trans people are "turning kids trans," so what do they mean by "turning them" trans?
Again, this is just a lie they use to try to piss off their target audience to get them to do their dirty work for them.
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They don't even actually know what the fuck it means.
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They believe that depictions of trans people in media and allowing actual trans minors to begin transitioning will somehow "make" other kids trans. They believe teaching about transgenderism in sex ed classes and such will also "indoctrinate" kids into being trans and such. It's nonsense. No one is actually forcing transgenderism on cisgender people and transgenderism isn't actually a choice; it's a condition people are born with. A cis person who is forced to transition will just have dysphoria and want to revert back to their normal selves, much like how trans people forced to live cisgender have dysphoria and want to transition.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐
I often see a lot of them saying how trans people are "turning kids trans," so what do they mean by "turning them" trans?
Some are of the opinion (either truly or just as propaganda) that the only way someone can be gay/trans is via SA in their childhood.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 2/15/2023 8:13 PM
Why do they think transgenderism is an "ideology"?
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐
Why do they think transgenderism is an "ideology"?
They don't. It's just a lie they spread.
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It's the same answer as before basically
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Call it an ideology instead of a condition so it is easier to get people to hate it
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 2/15/2023 8:15 PM
I'm trans FTM actually, which is why I'm asking
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It is like saying being handicapped or disabled is a "choice" and that it is "ideology" to accommodate, teach about and depict these types of people, and that there is an agenda to encourage children to make themselves disabled/handicapped
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 2/15/2023 8:16 PM
We don't want to turn people trans, we just want to be accepted
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Exactly
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐
We don't want to turn people trans, we just want to be accepted
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/15/2023 8:17 PM
Good luck telling a GOP'er that.
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But they don't want people to know that. They tell people you are just a liar who is hiding your subversive agenda
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/15/2023 8:17 PM
They don't listen because they don't want to listen.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 2/15/2023 8:17 PM
I remember a time I was called a groomer for defending trans people on a transphobic tiktok
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The person who made the post had Trump in the pfp
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/15/2023 8:18 PM
In their eyes, because a "trustworthy" source told them you're raping kids and turning them trans/gay/whatever, you have to suffer and die.
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It is like saying being handicapped or disabled is a "choice" and that it is "ideology" to accommodate, teach about and depict these types of people, and that there is an agenda to encourage children to make themselves disabled/handicapped
Which is actually a fash development through Republican funded think tanks in the 80s... They looked at the messaging that the Nazi party used and developed a way to make it more acceptable to a larger group of people.
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They say "first it starts with tolerating these people, then it becomes accepting them, then it becomes indoctrinating other people to be like them!"
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐
I remember a time I was called a groomer for defending trans people on a transphobic tiktok
Don't bother on most of these types of posts
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/15/2023 8:18 PM
Yeah, it's just an echo chamber.
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knuckles
They say "first it starts with tolerating these people, then it becomes accepting them, then it becomes indoctrinating other people to be like them!"
𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 2/15/2023 8:19 PM
I've actually seen people saying things like that
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Talk to people in person. Not violently hateful strangers of course, but people who can be talked to
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It usually works a decent bit
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/15/2023 8:20 PM
Just try to be a decent person around them.
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knuckles
They say "first it starts with tolerating these people, then it becomes accepting them, then it becomes indoctrinating other people to be like them!"
𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 2/15/2023 8:20 PM
This tweet is that in a nutshell
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You can find plenty of stories of people that were against LGBT rights until they actually realized someone close to them was part of it.
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Of course you also hear plenty of stories of parents disowning their kids over it, so it's not always a safe bet
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/15/2023 8:21 PM
And if that don't work, let's just say there's a reason I own a Mossberg Maverick 88 and a Glock 17.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 2/15/2023 8:21 PM
Wait, people disown their gay kids just because they're gay!?
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yes
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/15/2023 8:21 PM
All the time.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 2/15/2023 8:21 PM
I genuinely didn't know about that
8:22 PM
That's horrible
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Indeed
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/15/2023 8:22 PM
You ever hear of conversion camps, @𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐?
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It's less and less over the years but it still happens.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
You ever hear of conversion camps, @𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐?
𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 2/15/2023 8:22 PM
Yes I have
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐
Wait, people disown their gay kids just because they're gay!?
Gay, Trans, Anarchist, Poly, yeah... or worse than disown them... more than a few have been murdered by their parents.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 2/15/2023 8:22 PM
They're disgusting and morally wrong
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/15/2023 8:22 PM
Damn right.
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Gay, Trans, Anarchist, Poly, yeah... or worse than disown them... more than a few have been murdered by their parents.
𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 2/15/2023 8:24 PM
That's awful, I just wish they could understand that all we want is for things like that to stop happening. We want to be treated the same as straight cis people. But then straight cis people want to claim we're trying to make them the minority and ourselves the norm. In fact, it's not like that at all.
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Queer people want equality, not supremacy!
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Don't worry, everyone here knows that.
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I think what I just wrote sounds dismissive, but it's not meant to be.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 2/15/2023 8:27 PM
Oh no I completely understand what you meant
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐
Oh no I completely understand what you meant
Also keep in mind that these people doing all these horrible fucking things are intentionally brainwashed by a segment of the population that are only doing so so they can be seen as the "leaders"... so they can control the course of social change in the world for their benefit.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 2/15/2023 8:29 PM
That's awful but it makes sense
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Religious leaders... wealthy fascist business leaders... politicians... etc.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/15/2023 8:29 PM
Exactly. People align with fascism because they think they won't be on the receiving end of the the oppression.
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Religious leaders... wealthy fascist business leaders... politicians... etc.
𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 2/15/2023 8:30 PM
Sorry, could you elaborate on religious leaders?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Exactly. People align with fascism because they think they won't be on the receiving end of the the oppression.
They are afraid they will be on the receiving end if they don't adhere to the standards.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐
Sorry, could you elaborate on religious leaders?
Religion often aligns itself with power. Not always mind you, but using God to enforce your laws, or using laws to enforce God is a common trend.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐
Sorry, could you elaborate on religious leaders?
Not to get too deep into it because I believe all major religions are intentionally created to manipulate people on a mass level... But specifically, a brand of Christianity stemming from a religious philosopher named Calvin, has been used specifically to con people out of money since... well about the development of Capitalism actually.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 2/15/2023 8:32 PM
Oh yeah, that's one of the reasons I had this phase where I was an "extreme athiest"
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Here it is referred to commonly as evangelical christianity.
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Religious leaders are based when they're not hypocritical
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 2/15/2023 8:33 PM
You guys know what I mean by extreme athiest right?
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Calvinism is the worst form of Christianity. I don't get it. God creates eternal souls and an eternal Hell, and then predestines people to go to said Hell and even if they want to believe in Him but He doesn't make them believe, then they can't believe and go to Hell for eternity? What's the point?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/15/2023 8:34 PM
And then there's the whole "prosperity gospel" which just makes me sick.
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Anglicanism isn't as bad but it is just stupid
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Prosperity gospel is mega heresy
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Outright contradictory to the Bible
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And yet so many people believe it
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cuz they just want money, or some even just want to meet their basic needs and think faith will solve it
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knuckles
Religious leaders are based when they're not hypocritical
Jesuit Priests often have in the past participated in and aided indigenous rebellions in fact.
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Or they're in a rut or have cancer or something and these preachers take advantage of them
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/15/2023 8:35 PM
Every time I walk into of those massive fancy churches, I always think about how all that money should've gone to the poor like the Gospel preaches.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 2/15/2023 8:36 PM
What is it called when they believe that christians automatically go to heaven and you go to hell if you aren't christian?
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I mean that's basically just Christianity, at least most forms of Protestantism
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John 3:16
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐
What is it called when they believe that christians automatically go to heaven and you go to hell if you aren't christian?
Faith based salvation
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Every time I walk into of those massive fancy churches, I always think about how all that money should've gone to the poor like the Gospel preaches.
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But Matthew 25:31-46 is important and forgotten. Recommend everyone here read it, you will understand what true Christianity is supposed to be like
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Jesus Christ Superstar is the most based telling of that story I know. Particularly because of it's portrayal of Judas.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 2/15/2023 8:38 PM
So in their eyes, a rapist could go to heaven because he was christian. But an athiest who was a decent person would go to hell?
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐
So in their eyes, a rapist could go to heaven because he was christian. But an athiest who was a decent person would go to hell?
Yup
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 2/15/2023 8:38 PM
That doesn't make any sense at all
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It doesn't
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐
That doesn't make any sense at all
Calvinism in a nutshell bud. (edited)
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I mean, most people believe that if you don't repent and genuinely feel sorrow for what you have done and tried to make amends, then you don't truly have faith
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knuckles
I mean, most people believe that if you don't repent and genuinely feel sorrow for what you have done and tried to make amends, then you don't truly have faith
But not in modern calvinist based churches... If you are wealthy, obviously god approves of your behavior.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 2/15/2023 8:40 PM
If God existed and calvinism were true, that would make God a pretty selfish god, wouldn't it?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/15/2023 8:41 PM
Like Father Alexander Anderson from Hellsing says: "You've quit serving God. You're only serving his power."
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐
If God existed and calvinism were true, that would make God a pretty selfish god, wouldn't it?
There is nothing... literally nothing... to suggest that Calvin was speaking truth about whatever God is/wants.
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In fact, even words attributed to Christ denounce anyone who would alter the perception Christ supposedly gave "us" of God.
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Mind you, I'm an Agnostic that believes if there is a God... every perception mankind has of it is purely our own making.
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So literally nothing is actual "gospel" in my eyes.
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I have in the past, and to a degree now, also believe that we not only create our perception of God... but also that we manifest whatever divine spirit we believe in via our faith alone.
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It is the only way I have been able to evaluate my own spiritual experiences with the context of those of the countless cultures I've studied over the years. (edited)
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Despite his generally conservative positions, Pence was the keynote speaker at a political strategy retreat for the Koch Brothers, who take left-wing positions on several issues, particularly illegal immigration and globalism.[34] In the early morning hours of January 7, 2021, Pence illegally certified the results of the 2020 presidential election in favor of Democrat candidate Joe Biden, even though Biden illegally benefited from massive amounts of voting fraud committed by the Democrats and their operatives to steal the election from President Trump.[35] In doing so, however, Pence fully exposed himself as being a liberal RINO, effectively ending his political career, as well as a traitor to America. Trump subsequently responded to Pence's betrayal in a statement publicized via Trump's White House Deputy Chief of Staff Dan Scavino
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These people are so detached from reality
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The fucking Koch brothers were/are responsible for several fascist think tanks which have progressed fascist messaging to the point of where it is.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/16/2023 10:13 AM
>Koch brothers >left wing Lolwat.
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The only Koch I approve of is Heckler & Koch.
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Contender also says civil war – fought over slavery – was one side ‘fighting for tradition’ and the other ‘fighting for change’
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Wow reading this article, this woman does not understand the us constitution. The us constitution does not say that states can secede, we settled that over 150 years ago.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 2/16/2023 2:04 PM
"FiGhTiNg fOr tRaDiTiOn" - I absolutely f#cking hate this. Which Tradition Nkki?
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General Sherman's greatest failing was stopping before the job was done. These Neo-Confederates and Neo-Nazis would sooner destroy the Union than allow it to grow.
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Sherman should have finished the job
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Wrecking the south would have accomplished nothing, people like nikki are not the fault of the old confederates. Or if they are it's at least tertiary.
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Wrecking the elites of the south absolutely would have
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If figures like the daughters of the confederates didn't have their money and estate to propagate the great lie then we wouldn't have this issue
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Someone else would have, the reason the people of the south believed the lie is that they wanted to. It was already there and lies tend to take on lives of their own.
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Then why were only the rich trying to propagate it after the civil war? Even during the war poor white southerners thought it was bs
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Sigh, perhaps their estates should have been divided up. But, this is pointless. How do we deal with people like her now?
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Expose the lie and prevent the right from further eroding education. There is nowhere in the constitution or bill of rights that says it's okay to restrict certain rights to certain groups of people nor does it say anywhere that states have the right to restrict education. Call them out on their bullshit
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The issue with that is that a lot of people do believe that private is better than public. They believe in the power of the market and capitalism to all those who work for it. Because the people peddling that lie believe in it. Because capitalism has largely worked out for them.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/16/2023 4:08 PM
An Australian family belonging to an extreme fundamentalist Christian movement murdered police officers in a bizarre terrorism plot — and the movement has a following in the United States as well, reported The Daily Beast on Thursday."Gareth, Nathaniel and Stacey Train died in a stand-off after kill...
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The issue with that is that a lot of people do believe that private is better than public. They believe in the power of the market and capitalism to all those who work for it. Because the people peddling that lie believe in it. Because capitalism has largely worked out for them.
You still have to expose the lie. If nothing is done then well, nothing is done
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How do we deal with the cognitive dissonance though?
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Keep educating until it comes to breaking point. Most people aren't delusional, but until they hear enough voices contradicting their preferred sources then they have no reason to question anything
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Articulated analysis of the difference between a peace officer and law enforcement
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Laguz24
The issue with that is that a lot of people do believe that private is better than public. They believe in the power of the market and capitalism to all those who work for it. Because the people peddling that lie believe in it. Because capitalism has largely worked out for them.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 2/16/2023 6:23 PM
The solution is that reality does not agree. As propagandized and deluded as some folks are, the quickest way to convince them is to put their hand in his side -
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The liar and the lunatic.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
The liar and the lunatic.
AvoidOblivion 2/16/2023 8:06 PM
Don’t forget about Santos in that description, you could just double it and remain accurate.
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The Main Radio Frequency Center, an entity overseen by Russia’s federal censorship agency, announced Monday that it has launched a new automated system called Oculus that will search the Internet for photo and video content that’s banned under Russian law.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/17/2023 12:02 AM
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/17/2023 12:40 AM
WHAT
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/17/2023 1:37 AM
Sticker
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i am going to lose it
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BubsyFanboy 2/17/2023 2:12 AM
We have some good news  out of Virginia about the anti-trans bills state Republicans have been attempting to make into law.  From The Advoca...
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WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?
BubsyFanboy 2/17/2023 2:12 AM
No more public education? Are they nuts?
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No more public education? Are they nuts?
AvoidOblivion 2/17/2023 7:35 AM
They are fully aware that educated people are harder to control and indoctrinate. They know exactly what they are doing.
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BubsyFanboy
No more public education? Are they nuts?
Public education is socialist and socialism bad
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Duh
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AvoidOblivion 2/17/2023 8:35 AM
The party of small government is showing the first example of actual small government by destroying public education. Other than this, it's just government encroaching upon and restricting the rights of the people in favor of the company.
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The only difference between this and what the Dems have been doing for the past 40 years is that this won't pass the Senate. Politicians have been killing education slowly and methodically already.
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And yes, it is explicitly because they know educated people are harder to control and indoctrinate.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/17/2023 10:00 AM
Last year, DeSantis authorized flying two planes filled with migrants to Martha's Vineyard in a stunt opposing President Joe Biden's border policy.
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Jfc
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Send illegal immigrants to sanctuary cities and sanctuary states
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Not based for the illegal immigrants waiting on a court date and being tricked into going somewhere else, also not based he is using taxpayer dollars for a political stunt while Floridians are still struggling with housing and especially insurance
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Ehh, money would be spent either way. Jail them? Money. Deport them? Money. Give them aid? Money
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I'm not sure you understand how much illegal immigration isn't a problem in Florida. All he is doing is trying to rile up his fanboys so they worship him as the next Republican messiah
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The dude literally spent taxpayer money to move immigrants from a completely different state
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/17/2023 4:31 PM
A judge confirms the five defendants are pleading not guilty to charges including murder and assault.
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@knuckles Those court dates are usually set at federal offices in places like Miami, New Orleans, Houston etc... Forcing them to relocate forces them to get their appointed attorney to relocate the trial... or forces them to find money to return for their court date. Moving the case to another city means getting a new lawyer assigned who knows nothing about them, often a new interpreter, and a whole host of other issues. Nothing about this is "based".
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/18/2023 1:44 PM
The US has over 1000 train derailments per year, or about 3 per day, which is around what most countries have in a year. Japan had 5 train derailments last year. Here's the data for 27 EU countries which had 78 derailments in total combined. Germany had 6. https://t.co/sLhqJ7rJlW
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/18/2023 8:12 PM
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of course it's in Lakeland
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Terrible
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AvoidOblivion
They are fully aware that educated people are harder to control and indoctrinate. They know exactly what they are doing.
TheAnonymousDew 2/18/2023 10:10 PM
And because an educated working class is less susceptible to corporate propaganda and more likely to develop a sense of class conciousness
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They are fully aware that educated people are harder to control and indoctrinate. They know exactly what they are doing.
TheAnonymousDew 2/18/2023 10:11 PM
Why else do you think Donald Trump said he loved the poorly educated?
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Carter is going into palliative care
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Certainly the least bad modern US president (as in post ww2) (edited)
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AvoidOblivion 2/19/2023 11:41 AM
He was ineffective and not firm enough in his policies and execution of the job, but he is a very good man who has lived a long and fulfilling life. He is the type of person every president should aim to resemble in their non-presidential life, and as caring as they should be in their job.
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Yeah I'm not calling his mandate a success, but as a person, definetly the best post-war
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The work of his foundation, against Guinea worm disease in particular, is commendable
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International atomic monitors in Iran last week detected uranium enriched to levels just below that needed for a nuclear weapon, according to two senior diplomats - Bloomberg
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/19/2023 4:07 PM
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/19/2023 4:08 PM
Who are they
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/19/2023 4:11 PM
Adam Kinzinger is essentially the only tolerable Republican left
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He's vehemently anti-Trump for one.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/19/2023 4:15 PM
Lmao nice
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AIF Cuirassier regiment
Who are they
AvoidOblivion 2/19/2023 4:51 PM
Charlie Kirk is a pathetic little man who promotes far-right ideology and is one of the founders of Turning Point USA, which is far-right itself. TPUSA is also known as Toilet Paper USA, due to its nature of being shitty.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/19/2023 4:52 PM
Not a shocker
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TPUSA is one of the biggest threat to US democracy
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Most of the far right grifters you know are in some way related to them
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It's a fairly small circle
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AvoidOblivion 2/19/2023 5:09 PM
So is FUCKS News.
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Yeah, it's the other one
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With a few others like PragerU
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But as I say they are all related to some extent (edited)
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Nah, he just wants to move ap classes into the private school system.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/20/2023 11:06 AM
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THE UNION FOREVER HURRAH BOYS HURRAH
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BubsyFanboy 2/20/2023 11:28 AM
CHISINAU, Moldova (AP) — Several thousand protesters rallied in Moldova’s capital Sunday to demand that the country's new pro-Western government fully cover citizens' winter heating bills amid a cost-of-living crisis and skyrocketing inflation.
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BubsyFanboy 2/20/2023 11:28 AM
Yeah, because diving the US more has clearly worked out in the past.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/20/2023 11:44 AM
that should be the national anthem tbh
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
that should be the national anthem tbh
AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/20/2023 11:44 AM
Not my field to comment but I did make it the anthem in my good enclave run in OWB
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Marjorie Taylor Greene is in Idaho calling Mitch McConnell “a Democrat.” Someone in the audience yelled that he’s “a communist.” In case you were wondering how far right the GOP has gone.
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Get popcorn folks
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/20/2023 3:39 PM
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sadly this is the less stupid thing that's happened in Idaho today
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idiots are trying to criminalize the covid vax
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sure, make yourself open to a potential biological attack, that won't effect you anytime soon
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but in Idaho destroying itself...
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moscow-backed protestors
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they've got very little legitimacy
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then again half of the moldovan political sphere, like the communist and socialist parties, are moscow backed parties
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they ran the country for most of its history but got their ass handed over in the last election and the europhile liberal PAS crushed them
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TIL that since 2013 (thank you SCOTUS) in the US you do not have the right to remain silent anymore
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You must invoke the 5th, otherwise it can be used against you
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On 17 June 2013, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Salinas v. Texas that, prior to being arrested, an individual must specifically invoke the Fifth Amendment right to "remain silent", otherwise selective silence can be used against him or her in court
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Aces high
idiots are trying to criminalize the covid vax
floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/20/2023 4:19 PM
no no no, all mRNA medical technology
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i fucking love this state
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ah
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they're gonna get themselves killed in a generation
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sorry Flop
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/20/2023 4:20 PM
and i have to work on their ambulances Big_Smile
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fucking hell
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...abuse their vehicle homicide laws?
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
no no no, all mRNA medical technology
cant wait for them to ban mRNA and make all people find holdnig mRNA executed, starting by the government ...
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assuming someone doesn't unleash viral agents to fuck with the state
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because that's how you get bioterrorism at your door
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/20/2023 5:49 PM
I hear that's a real gas.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
I hear that's a real gas.
Naw, but it really does bug folks.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/20/2023 10:13 PM
Gov. DeSantis has talked about finding alternatives to the College Board, which administers the SAT and Advanced Placement classes.
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That christian and classical test will be useless outside of what colleges accept it. Or which ones DeSantis can bully into accepting.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/20/2023 11:39 PM
If polling locations are banned from college campuses, some students say they will struggle to vote.
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AvoidOblivion 2/21/2023 8:22 AM
some students say they will struggle to vote
Yes, that's the point.
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how do voting works in the US? here in belgium, the municipality is responsible for it. A few days before voting day, every citizen receives a paper telling them to vote, and where. This way, the polling stations are adapted to the number of people
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Voting is also mandatory and you can be fined for not voting, but in practice sanctions are rare
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how do voting works in the US? here in belgium, the municipality is responsible for it. A few days before voting day, every citizen receives a paper telling them to vote, and where. This way, the polling stations are adapted to the number of people
AvoidOblivion 2/21/2023 8:30 AM
I haven't been allowed to vote for long, but I have accompanied my parents on several occasions, so I can only offer so much info: You find out where you have to vote based on the location of your residence, and can find this info by visiting the state's voting information website or something similar. You go to the location, and there are often many signs posted around promoting certain candidates and information booths about them. You'll have to wait in line, and if it is a highly populated area, probably a long line. You go in, are given the ballot you use to vote, and told to head to a certain location. You go there, fill out the ballot, and turn it in to a machine that counts the ballots (at least in voting locations where I have been to). You're then free to go, and are probably given a sticker that says "I Voted" or something similar. If you want to go with mail-in ballots instead of voting in-person, you request to do so before voting begins. There is certain information you have to fill out. When the time for voting by mail comes, they will send you your ballot, you fill it out, and then mail it back. It will then be counted.
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It is important to remember, this knowledge is based around my experiences alone. While it is generally similar across the US, it could vary.
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Yeah that is the voting process and it is mostly the same here, but I was more asking about the voting organization
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AvoidOblivion 2/21/2023 8:31 AM
Oh, ok. I am not too certain about that and can't offer much.
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I am also aware that the US, especially red states, do everything they can to disenfranchise urban minorities
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Comitted a felony? Cant vote ever again Live in a highly dense population? here is one polling station for 10,000 of your people
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AvoidOblivion 2/21/2023 8:32 AM
They absolutely do, as right-wingers are aware that minorities will typically vote left-wing, and are afraid of losing their power.
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Hence why I am mostly asking, who decides where the polling stations are, and based on what?
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AvoidOblivion 2/21/2023 8:32 AM
That I do not know.
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Here in Belgium, losing your electoral rights is a very serious legal punishment
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AvoidOblivion 2/21/2023 8:34 AM
Because over there in Belgium, your government seems to actually care about democracy.
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Voting is also mandatory and you can be fined for not voting, but in practice sanctions are rare
floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/21/2023 8:34 AM
that kinda sucks, abstainment is a valid democratic choice
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In Germany, all convicts are allowed to vote while in prison unless the loss of the right to vote is part of the sentence; courts can only apply this sentence for specific "political" crimes (treason, high treason, electoral fraud, intimidation of voters, etc.) and for a duration of two to five years
this is the german exemple over wikipedia but its mostly similar accross western europe
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
that kinda sucks, abstainment is a valid democratic choice
you can cast a blank vote
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/21/2023 8:34 AM
ohhh cool
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yeah uhh, anyone who commits a higher-level crime here loses their right to vote
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any felony
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there is a very strong argument in favour of mandatory vote, that is to fight against voter apathy which is a very dangerous situation
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/21/2023 8:35 AM
you also can’t vote in prison
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not voting is easy voting blank requires a conscious choice
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/21/2023 8:35 AM
but you can run for president from prison
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even then, more and more people in belgium are not voting, about 10% of the electorate last time
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
yeah uhh, anyone who commits a higher-level crime here loses their right to vote
AvoidOblivion 2/21/2023 8:35 AM
This makes me wonder about just how many people here have lost the right to vote due to wrongful convictions.
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which must still be shocking for an american to hear that 90% participation is low ahah
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/21/2023 8:37 AM
yyyeah lmao
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it also somewhat buffers political extremes
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most people don't vote for radical parties usually but with voter apathy, the average person, which would vote for a moderate, doesnt vote while the "radicalized" definetly will
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something you have seen in 2016
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The key Flemish parties on the right wish to abolish compulsory voting, and did so for compulsory voting in Flemish local elections, starting with the 2024 elections. In French-speaking Wallonia the social democrats and the other parties, which form the majority, adamantly support compulsory voting
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fucking pieces of shit
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I hate the flemmish nationalists so much
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the christian democrats made a pact with the devil in 2004
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they allied themselves with the Volksunie, aka the "moderate" flemmish nationalists, and won a big victory
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But the Vlaams Blok, straight up former neonazi sympathisers, capitalised on this
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After 2007, the Volksunie left the alliance, the more moderate/left winger groups were fed up with the increasingly right wing rethoric and melted into the other parties (liberals, socialists, greens)
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the volksunie became the N-VA (New Flemmish Alliance), going more and more right wing to compete against the Vlaams Blok, now renamed Vlaams Belang (Flemmish Interests), which led them to very large victories in 2010/2014
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if you know anything about Belgium, its how we stayed YEARS without a federal government
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the flemmish nats were so big making a coalition without them was hard
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in 2010 after over a year without a gov we managed, but while they werent in government we basically surrendered to their demands
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in 2014 the flemmish right wing, Social Christians, Liberals, and NVA allied with the French speaking right wing, the MR (liberals, but also our only right wing party so a few conservatives sometimes)
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The MR only had ~25% support in the french speakign part of belgium!!!!!!
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our constitution forces governing parties to have at least one party from each side of the linguistice border, and 50/50% on ministers
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in 2019 we once again stayed over 540 days without a government, then covid forced our hand into basically a super-alliance of the moderates (socdem, greens, liberals, and flemmish christian democrats), along with a surprising boost in vlaams belang vote (but little reduction in NVA vote) and yet the flemmish nats are bitching because our government only got 48% support in Flanders
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like come on, you force your right wing politics on us with 25% support in half the country for 5 years, but when we have 48% support in the north thats not enough for you
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sorry for the rant, hope it gives you a good idea of the state of belgian politics
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/21/2023 10:14 AM
A bill introduced by Florida Republicans would make it easier for DeSantis to sue the press and stifle investigative reporting. Definitely unconstitutional.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/21/2023 10:16 AM
But how will I get a cheap boat
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(Jk)
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BubsyFanboy 2/21/2023 1:22 PM
THE PEOPLE DEMAND PEACE! END THE WAR! NUKE THE KREMLIN NOW!
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/21/2023 1:37 PM
Anyone else feel like January 6th was the American equivalent of the Beer Hall Putsch?
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Anyone else feel like January 6th was the American equivalent of the Beer Hall Putsch?
AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/21/2023 1:40 PM
I agree witb you but... Holy shit this caught me off guard, like bro, I was watching some of those Hitler rant parodies and you casually just mention him
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/21/2023 1:41 PM
Lmao
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Lmao
AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/21/2023 1:42 PM
how did you get in my grandma's house's walls
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how did you hear the FEGELEIN, FEEEGELEIN
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Anyone else feel like January 6th was the American equivalent of the Beer Hall Putsch?
Feels like it, and it made way too many people way too comfortable with it
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/21/2023 1:43 PM
Mhm
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More and more extreme GOP rhetoric will be mainstream, kinda like the NSDAP in its time
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And we can't expect the democrats to win every single election
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/21/2023 1:46 PM
Sometimes it really does feel like the question is When is the next civil war starting instead of is the next civil war going to start
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I don't think its a guarantee it will get there
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But it's probably closer than it's been since the civil war
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/21/2023 1:47 PM
yeah
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Civil rights Era was also kind of messy but I don't think the union was ever at risk
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/21/2023 1:47 PM
Something like that would be absolutely devastating for everyone
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Here we have federal lawmakers advocating for it once again...
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/21/2023 1:47 PM
The absolutely massive power vacuum holy shit
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And I don't expect these harpies to quiet down anytime soon
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/21/2023 1:48 PM
North Korea and China would probably try getting away with their shit too
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The absolutely massive power vacuum holy shit
Worldwide famine
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A large portion of the world is reliant on American food
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I think maybe Europe might be fine
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Global trade collapse would wreck our economies but I don't think it's an existential threat
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China would actually suffer very hard from it
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And I don't expect these harpies to quiet down anytime soon
AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/21/2023 1:50 PM
"What did I do to you"
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A US Civil War might seem like an opportunity for US enemies but they would regret it extremely quickly
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Even at the height of the cold war the US was still selling food to the USSR
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Hell even north Korea is reliant on the US for food
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That's one of the reasons they are so reckless, feed us or we nuke you
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Hell even north Korea is reliant on the US for food
AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/21/2023 1:51 PM
Lets face it, that goes to big Kim
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Not something a lot of people know
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Because neither government want to tell their population they trade with the arch enemy lol
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/21/2023 1:52 PM
he's just trying to beat Göring at weight
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lmao true
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China would actually suffer very hard from it
And they're already having economic problems as is. We go down, they go down with us
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Aka the German strategy
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It didn't stop Russia
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But it will sink them
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Russia economic resilience is still surprising so far but it won't last them forever
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A US Civil War might seem like an opportunity for US enemies but they would regret it extremely quickly
floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/21/2023 1:55 PM
it would just be backing a scared dog into a corner
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And Russia spent a long time preparing for this
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China however is a trade nation
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They're fucked if the west collapses
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
it would just be backing a scared dog into a corner
Oh I'm not even talking about the military aspect
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Just the economic aspect
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I can't even begin to think how bad these people would live should the GOP go forward with their plan to secede again
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They already don't have money to begin with
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Imagine cutting federal aid on top of that
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The utter misery the south would be in
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
it would just be backing a scared dog into a corner
AvoidOblivion 2/21/2023 3:14 PM
A rabid dog.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/21/2023 11:46 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/21/us/biden-asylum-rules.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes Oh look, the Dems are shooting themselves in the feet again.
By Miriam Jordan
A tough new immigration measure could disqualify the vast majority of migrants from being able to seek asylum at the southern border.
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Really?
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Guess that fake ass "border crisis" that Fox is hyping up is working to some extent.
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BubsyFanboy 2/22/2023 8:17 AM
https://nowemedium-pl.translate.goog/wiadomosci/polityka/janusz-kowalski-chce-odznaczenia-dla-donalda-trumpa/?_x_tr_sl=pl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pl&_x_tr_pto=wapp
I trust that during his next visit to the USA, the President of the Republic of Poland, Andrzej Duda, will meet his great friend Donald Trump. Donald Trump for supporting the Republic of Poland, like few others deserved the Grand Cross of the Order of Merit of the Republic of Poland.
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The guy who says is himself a whole another pack of beans
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This man was fired from his ministry after robbing someone of sand
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And is now obsessed with de facto opposition leader Donald Tusk and Germans
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Also he admitted on TV that he sees "LGBT ideology" in kids' crayons
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So yeah, he does seem to be a truly obsessed far-right personality, regardless of how self-unaware and stupid his beliefs are.
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yeah the PiS is pretty much everything the GOP is trying to model itself after
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they took control of the judiciary and state media
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vehemently nationalist, religious and anti-gay
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yeah the PiS is pretty much everything the GOP is trying to model itself after
BubsyFanboy 2/22/2023 8:20 AM
Which is funny considering PiS themselves are modeling themselves off Fidesz, the Viktor Orban party.
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They are the thorns in the EU's side
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Orban made one mistake however, that is siding with Russia
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vehemently nationalist, religious and anti-gay
BubsyFanboy 2/22/2023 8:20 AM
And more than happy to ban abortion, even in extreme instances.
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Regardless of how Russia supports the far right accross Europe, there are 2 places where pro russian rethoric will ALWAYS fail: Poland, and the Baltics
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so the EU is currently going overdrive in punishing Poland and Hungary because they are too angry at each other over Russia to support one another as they have been doing for the past few years
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Orban made one mistake however, that is siding with Russia
BubsyFanboy 2/22/2023 8:22 AM
Yeah. He just reminded everyone of the awful human being he is and he even temporarily caused the severing of real diplomatic ties between Poland and Hungary. Suffice to say, he'll be a nobody after the 2023 Polish parliamentary elections, after which the democrats will most likely take the government role.
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Polls in Poland do not favor the opposition
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BubsyFanboy 2/22/2023 8:23 AM
It doesn't matter if the big tent and liberal KO will pick the agrarians and light conservatives of PSL-PL2050 or the social democrats and progressives of Lewica - they're all still democrats. Orban is screwed in such an instance.
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Polls in Poland do not favor the opposition
BubsyFanboy 2/22/2023 8:24 AM
They may not show KO "leading", but once calculated into parliament seats, PiS get no real way of getting a parliamentary supermajority that they require to rule.
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You'd need a complete union of opposition forces
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They may not show KO "leading", but once calculated into parliament seats, PiS get no real way of getting a parliamentary supermajority that they require to rule.
BubsyFanboy 2/22/2023 8:25 AM
Nowadays even a coalition with GOP crazies-style Konfederacja party at this point could save them
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I remember how Hungary went
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BubsyFanboy 2/22/2023 8:25 AM
Mind providing me that graph's site?
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I haven't seen that
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always a good resource for polling aggregates outside the USA
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KO + Lewica + P2050 + PSL miiiigggghtttt just be enough
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are you polish? @BubsyFanboy
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are you polish? @BubsyFanboy
BubsyFanboy 2/22/2023 8:29 AM
Yeah.
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I had heard from another polish person that Lewica was mostly busy being idiots but I can't remember the specifics
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Also, unrelated but I made my own subreddit for European Iron Front news, r/IronFrontEurope, if you're interested
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I had heard from another polish person that Lewica was mostly busy being idiots but I can't remember the specifics
BubsyFanboy 2/22/2023 8:34 AM
Ah, yes. I recalled last December the Internet was collectively panicking over the prospect of a flawed new conscription law that could introduce mandatory military training among citizens. Most of Lewica was quiet, but one congresswoman decided to be very vocal - an awful PR choice that could've sunk the whole party if it weren't for the party's later damage control. Among the awful messaging was "there are Citizens and citizens" and shielding herself by pointing out her disability.
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That said, I could honestly say the same that almost the entire Polish political scene - it felt like just about everyone fired their own 1% protocol (stupid statement that sinks support right before elections; term popularized by Korwin-Mikke's behavior) a little less than a year before elections. (edited)
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In the run up to the 2023 Polish parliamentary election, various organisations carry out opinion polling to gauge voting intention in Poland. Results of such polls are displayed in this article. The date range for these opinion polls are from the 2019 Polish parliamentary election, held on 13 October, to the present day. The next general electio...
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BubsyFanboy 2/22/2023 9:00 AM
Yeah, I finally found it, thanks
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Politico also does fairly decent polls of polls
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POLLING FROM ACROSS EUROPE. UPDATED DAILY. Poland — National parliament voting intention What is Poll of Polls and how does it work? Read more here. Poland — 2019 general election more polling from…
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/22/2023 10:44 AM
The recently revived Florida State Guard would more than triple in size and add aviation and maritime equipment.
10:46 AM
mind; this is NOT the national guard
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/22/2023 10:49 AM
because he’s an actual fascist
10:49 AM
it would basically be his own paramilitary above the regulations of the national guard
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Every single bill Desantis has endorsed has primarily served to give him power
10:54 AM
HB7 is basically a shit load of grandstanding and giving him more power
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small state republicans btw
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Every single bill Desantis has endorsed has primarily served to give him power
AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/22/2023 11:13 AM
Seems like the Next Richmond will be Miami then
11:13 AM
Looks like we'll have to call aquatic sherman in that case
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I would put my money Gainesville or Jacksonville
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Both cities have a history for sure
11:13 AM
Gainesville more so
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/22/2023 11:13 AM
Fair
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small state republicans btw
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/22/2023 11:26 AM
By "small state", they mean "their own piece of land to rule over like feudal lords".
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
By "small state", they mean "their own piece of land to rule over like feudal lords".
nah it just means they dont want to be forced to sell wedding cakes to gays
11:54 AM
and also yeah be free to oppress minorities in their red states
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"Every day, you see a man you know committing a very serious crime for which millions of people suffer. You cannot take him to court or report him to the police because he is the law in the country. Would you remain silent and let him continue with his crime or would you do something to stop him? You are guilty not only when you commit a crime, but also when you do nothing to prevent it when you have the chance."
By Dimitri Tsafendas, the man who assassinated South African Prime Minister Hendrik Verwoerd, largely considered the architect of Apartheid
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AvoidOblivion 2/22/2023 1:56 PM
Based Dimitri.
1:57 PM
For what he said.
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Do you think we should seize the means of production and redistribute wealth and goods?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/22/2023 6:22 PM
yes but that’s beyond this group’s point
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Do you think we should seize the means of production and redistribute wealth and goods?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/22/2023 9:36 PM
Damn the woke agenda ruining... toilet paper?
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The Southern Baptist Convention has ousted Saddleback Church, the Orange County megachurch founded by Rick Warren, for having a woman pastor.
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of course
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Ironically Saddleback is infamously anti-lgtba
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Damn the woke agenda ruining... toilet paper?
a PSA = tyranny
10:23 PM
like afaik there's nothing about that dispenser that's stopping you from pulling all the paper out and throwing it right in the trash
10:24 PM
it's just a sign
10:24 PM
It's not even like they made some kind of ridiculous paper towel dispenser
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TheAnonymousDew 2/23/2023 12:01 AM
Rightoids get REALLY mad when you use originalist logic against them
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I said this and they got pretty pissed. "You believe the Constitution should be interpreted verbatim, do you not? So tell me, where in the First Amendment are private companies mentioned at all? Find me just one sentence where private companies are mentioned.."
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I never get a straight answer
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I like using their tactics against them
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name calling, cursing, making rude noises or gestures while they try to get a word then, rudely interrupting them during said "Speeches", mocking them and their believes, cheerfully telling them to recite their sources, especially biblical ones then immediately (again, rudely) reminding them the proper translation
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not rude for the sake of rude
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but rude to psychologically fuck with them
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They crave validation.
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the best way to crush it is to seem like your listening...then crush them
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If they run, make a show of it
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I like using their tactics against them
Reclaiming their memes make them mad
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So keep using dark brandon lol
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🇺🇸#USA, President Biden approval rating poll: ⏫Approve: 49 % (+4) ⏬Disapprove: 45 % (-3) This is the first Masist poll with a positive net approval rating for President Biden since July 2021. Marist College, 16/02/23
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BubsyFanboy 2/23/2023 6:39 AM
The Tony Blair Institute is calling for a change of course in the government’s digital ID program to provide a comprehensive digital identity.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/23/2023 4:52 PM
Fuck no
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/23/2023 5:17 PM
there's literally a whole r/Piracy lmao they can just do it themselves if they want (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/23/2023 5:38 PM
And that's not counting what you can find using Tor and similar browsers.
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or the pure spite of the entire Philippines internet
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or the pure spite of the entire Philippines internet
I mean they were the capital of the VHS and then DVD piracy world... 35 Peso for any Jackie Chan flick on VHS back in the day. All you had to do was ignore the guy blocking the camera when he gets up to piss mid film. Incidentally that's like a dollar back in 95'. (edited)
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As someone who isn't against using Piracy to punish media owned by right wing shitheads, their standards of Piracy have become a LOT better
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You can get some straight up studio copy shit now, thanks to them figuring out how to copy streamed shows
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Damn the woke agenda ruining... toilet paper?
WOKE. GAY AGENDA. GLOBALISTS. MARXISTS. LIBERALS. ANTI CHRISTIANITY. (edited)
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lol
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Anyone got any info on that supposed day hate that's might be happening tomorrow?
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TheAnonymousDew 2/24/2023 1:16 PM
Used logic against a MAGA today: He claimed because social media platforms are used by the government for some of their platforms, that makes them a government agency, so I responded with: "Using your logic then, is Blackwater a federal agency? The government outsourced defense to them and employed Blackwater Mercs in Afghanistan. Does that make Blackwater a federal agency, since the government does have a Constitutionally mandated function to raise and support an army"
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Never got a straight response
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I love that
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/24/2023 1:35 PM
does that make Hershey’s a government agency? we use their products for MREs
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TheAnonymousDew 2/24/2023 1:38 PM
They deflected to claiming US government actions against US Citizens
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Used logic against a MAGA today: He claimed because social media platforms are used by the government for some of their platforms, that makes them a government agency, so I responded with: "Using your logic then, is Blackwater a federal agency? The government outsourced defense to them and employed Blackwater Mercs in Afghanistan. Does that make Blackwater a federal agency, since the government does have a Constitutionally mandated function to raise and support an army"
taschenrechner 2/24/2023 4:00 PM
I mean Congress flies back and forth between home and DC, so clearly the airlines are all government agencies now, too.
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Not to mention tax dollars keep the airlines afloat
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Used logic against a MAGA today: He claimed because social media platforms are used by the government for some of their platforms, that makes them a government agency, so I responded with: "Using your logic then, is Blackwater a federal agency? The government outsourced defense to them and employed Blackwater Mercs in Afghanistan. Does that make Blackwater a federal agency, since the government does have a Constitutionally mandated function to raise and support an army"
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/24/2023 4:20 PM
So because they frequently tend to government officials, we should nationalize healthcare?
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TheAnonymousDew 2/24/2023 4:21 PM
We never will get a straight answer
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/24/2023 4:21 PM
Yeah but it'd be funny to watch what little remains of their brain slough out their ears from that one.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
So because they frequently tend to government officials, we should nationalize healthcare?
Actually congress members get free healthcare via the military medical system.
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Same as the President.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/24/2023 9:21 PM
love how people get it while in the military but they say “fuck you have fun” after subjecting people to body-destroying work once they leave (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/24/2023 9:36 PM
On top of the horrors of war as well.
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So your mind gets fucked as well as your body and all you can do is hope it somehow gets fixed before you get kicked out and left to the vultures that make up privatized healthcare.
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If universal healthcare is communism, then call me Vladimir Lenin.
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Folks on my campus have been campaigning hard against it
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It's going to need a lot more attention, all of it
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Aggressive and constant
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/24/2023 11:40 PM
Tell 'em to keep going.
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We plan on it
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Protests have been going on almost daily
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/24/2023 11:40 PM
I'd help if I could but I'm on the other side of the continent.
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I mean the fact that you know about it does help
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talk about it
11:41 PM
Shit like this NEEDS to hit the fan
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/24/2023 11:41 PM
Oh I will. Running my mouth is my specialty.
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"ban majors" Yeah enjoy crashing your state economy you idiot
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also, real talk, protest...but show up armed
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its Florida
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its not a matter of if but when some jackoff needs to meet "Castle doctrine"
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and lookie here, Florida's Castle doctrine is stand your ground
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In the street? Sure. On public grounds that don't allow guns to begin with? Good way to get fucked in multiple ways
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ye
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street
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but ideally in a way to...say make access to leaving said public grounds quite difficult. like occupying the streets that connect to the state gov building but not past the "Gate"
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but leaving it is hard without helicopter
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Sorry @floppunism [BOI, ID] we're gonna have to deal with Idaho
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The battle between insurgent progressives in Nevada and the Harry Reid machine began building in 2016.
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Damn I wasn't aware that that happened
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I'm sorry, EVERY SEAT?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/25/2023 2:28 AM
"Insurgent progressives".
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Good to know they see fit to slap us dem socs with the same label as the fucking Taliban.
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For fucks sake
2:43 AM
regardless, the fact dem soc WON means this is a good sign
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it shows dem soc is the way to go
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I'm sorry, EVERY SEAT?
every leading seat in the state party yes
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Aces high
it shows dem soc is the way to go
we need to see if they can win state elections now
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Possibly
2:50 AM
but the Reid machine has always been a huge issue for Nevada
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while they did win the 2022 senate seat, Masto is of the reid faction
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its a state that, despite having a lot of seemingly right wing behaviors, also has a contempt for hardcore right wing shit
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if the dem soc poach guns then GOP is shit outta luck
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also, DeSatan, in his attempts to ban anything that can undermind him, tried to ban "any major based in science" which....
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SIR
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YOU HAVE NASA IN YOUR STATE
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OH AND HE MIGHT HAVE SEMI-ACCIDENTALLY BANNED MATH
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NICE JOB DESATAN, YA MANAGED TO PISS OFF THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SPHERE
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also the GOP got a majority of the vote in the house races
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funnnily enough
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only got 1 seat out of 4 though
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FPTP is fun isnt it
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its hilarious sometimes because the GOP would have a LOT to gain from proportionnal vote
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sssssh
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all those republicans living in cities or in very blue, very gerrymandered states like Illinois would get to vote now
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SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSH
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2:54 AM
we're trying to get them to leave for Idaho!
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you cant do that to Flop!
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You monster
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I DON'T HAVE TO, IDAHO ATTRACTS THE BATSHIT
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FLORIDA GONNA DROWN IN A DECADE OR SO, THE VAGUELY SMARTER ONES ARE FLEEING TO IDAHO
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/25/2023 2:55 AM
Can we have them go to Utah instead?
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no no, Utah almost went purple
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I am only starting the video now (was on my watch later) but saying france still owns mali is kind of a hilarious take
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oh yeah its about the currency, right
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btw Mali and BF are going towards unification at the moment
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ironically europe would gain a lot in modernising subsaharian africa NOW, because when climate refugees start pouring, we're going to bite ourselves again
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which word is, they are looking into
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especially in the situation with Russia/Ukraine and China actually having a really bad time rn with trying to modernize africa
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I think it's kind of unreasonnable to paint French operations in the Sahel as colonialism
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Regional police mentality, absolutely
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But like, do you really think letting Boko Haram and Isil run rampant was the way to go?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/25/2023 3:09 AM
Virginia will review College Board's AP African American studies course amid nationwide debate following Florida's rejection of the course.
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DeSatan's shit is catching on.
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Virginia about to break its economy again
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and in a state surrounded by leftist states
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Virginia GOP about to kill itself for second time in a decade?
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Evo
Virginia GOP about to kill itself for second time in a decade?
As a Virginian, I hope so
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I hope so too
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I'm CA, my tax dollars go to these chucklefucks and I would like it if they didn't
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On February 26, 2022, the DSA issued a statement condemning Russia's invasion of Ukraine while arguing that the United States provoked Russia.[162] The statement called for the United States to withdraw from NATO and "end the imperialist expansionism that set the stage for this conflict".[
Why are they ALWAYS like this 🙄
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I'm glad european soc-dems aren't that stupid, but they're also very neoliberal so....
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BubsyFanboy 2/25/2023 6:47 AM
Police in New York, Chicago and Los Angeles, among other cities, are stepping up patrols this weekend in response to the threat of nationwide neo-Nazi action.
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How come there's mass shootings at synagogues, gay bars and stores in minority areas, but no mass shootings at things like Nazi rallies?
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How come there's mass shootings at synagogues, gay bars and stores in minority areas, but no mass shootings at things like Nazi rallies?
AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/25/2023 8:18 AM
In a videogame *Looks directly into the camera
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like why can't some psychopath choose them as a target instead of a damn kindergarten or something
8:19 AM
I'm not saying anyone should go do it, I'm just asking why it's always the most innocent people getting shit instead of scummy people
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/25/2023 8:20 AM
Bad people always target the deffencless, or people who think are deffenceless
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True
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Aces high
and in a state surrounded by leftist states
AvoidOblivion 2/25/2023 9:13 AM
I wouldn’t say surrounded. West Virginia is decently red, Kentucky is red, and NC is purple with stronger red leanings.
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Sorry @floppunism [BOI, ID] we're gonna have to deal with Idaho
floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/25/2023 10:55 AM
please, at any cost
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I'm not saying anyone should go do it, I'm just asking why it's always the most innocent people getting shit instead of scummy people
6L3THAL#0663 2/25/2023 11:40 AM
Sometimes I do wish I could just see some of these Nazi fuckers swing (In Minecraft)
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How come there's mass shootings at synagogues, gay bars and stores in minority areas, but no mass shootings at things like Nazi rallies?
floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/25/2023 12:08 PM
who do you think perpetrates those mass shootings, knuckles?
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like why can't some psychopath choose them as a target instead of a damn kindergarten or something
It's almost like they agree with racist, fascist shit heads
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well we could always take the club q method of dealing with them...
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/25/2023 1:29 PM
fair
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/25/2023 1:46 PM
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man got the shit beaten outta him
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he was still bruised like a rotting fruit at his trial
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It's almost like they agree with racist, fascist shit heads
Not all mass shooters are. Most are just generic psychopaths who think shooting up schools or movie theaters will get them fame
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
who do you think perpetrates those mass shootings, knuckles?
Gee, I have no idea who could be shooting up the synagogues and gay bars
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Not all mass shooters are. Most are just generic psychopaths who think shooting up schools or movie theaters will get them fame
AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/25/2023 2:16 PM
in all fairness, school shooters tend to be case by case and not blanket cases
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all are entitled fuckers tho
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/25/2023 3:01 PM
friendly reminder that the occurrence of mental illness in mass shooters is the same as the rest of the population, and that by far most mass shooters don’t have a related mental illness
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/25/2023 3:03 PM
again, case by case
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AvoidOblivion 2/25/2023 4:24 PM
The After School Satan Club, hosted by the Satanic Temple, was banned in Saucon Valley, Pennsylvania, for violating district policy… because someone called in a threat to the county for allowing the club in. https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/bethlehem/2023/02/after-chaos-threat-that-canceled-classes-after-school-satan-club-barred-from-schools.html (edited)
Saucon Valley schools Superintendent Jaime Vlasaty shared the announcement Friday night.
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A far-Right “Christian” was angery that the club was allowed in the schools and called in a threat that caused classes to be cancelled for the day. This led to the superintendent banning the club for violating district policy.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/25/2023 4:33 PM
ASS club
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I smell lawsuit
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I would love it if they did
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They did make a valid argument, but if they are saying all it takes is a threat that suspends school activities is enough to ban a club then I say they just opened a can of worms
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/25/2023 5:22 PM
yeah, it makes me glad that they at least banned it for a good reason
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though i’d imagine some people there were looking for reasons to ban it
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I wouldn't call it a good reason. If anyone wants any club out they can just call in a threat
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/27/2023 12:15 AM
The future congressman was questioned after his address was found in a car tied to the suspect in an ATM skimming case.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/27/2023 1:07 AM
The Texas judge said the exhibit documents cited by the commission seeking to disbar Powell "did not match the documents described in the brief."
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/27/2023 7:46 AM
There recently has been an uptik in Nationalism in Panama, yes it always existed and they have gotten elected before, but its got the people talking recently
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The "Panama for the Panamanians" type of Nationalism
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Sounds like Russian psy op
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Trying to cripple the western trade
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/27/2023 12:38 PM
America would go to war before it loses access to the canal
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Sounds like Russian psy op
AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/27/2023 12:44 PM
Nah, Nationalism has been here for....a while
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
America would go to war before it loses access to the canal
AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/27/2023 12:45 PM
we would be very happy without another 1989 please
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The Nationalist party has been here since 1931
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Yeah even I'm agreeing with flop here. And the sad thing is America would technically have the right to, given how much the rest of the world needs the canal and America kinds owns it
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Yeah even I'm agreeing with flop here. And the sad thing is America would technically have the right to, given how much the rest of the world needs the canal and America kinds owns it
AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/27/2023 1:18 PM
Agree with you there on the first half America does not own a square feet of the canal
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In theory. In practice...
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America doesnt own the canal anymore
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Provided fair enough
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But yeah they'd defo go to war over it
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/27/2023 1:19 PM
yep
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Aces high
In theory. In practice...
AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/27/2023 1:19 PM
They left in 99, cry about it
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I'm not. Just pointing out that if Panama were to try to cut off access to the canal it go very poorly for them
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/27/2023 1:21 PM
yeah
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that I agree
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It's like a Taiwan situation. Generally let the country in question own the important thing and even benefit from it. Cut it off tho... (externally or otherwise)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/27/2023 1:23 PM
Mhm
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oh shit
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Brazil no
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/27/2023 3:23 PM
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Monday signed a bill that gives him control of Walt Disney World's self-governing district, punishing the company over its opposition to the so-called “Don't Say Gay” law. The bill requires DeSantis, a Republican, to appoint a five-member board to oversee the government services that the Disney district provides in ...
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TheAnonymousDew 2/27/2023 3:43 PM
Small government my ass.
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It's "Toe the line or else" with DeSantis..
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By Jeremy W. Peters and Katie Robertson
The conservative media mogul made the remarks under oath last month in a $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit against Fox by Dominion Voting Systems.
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It actually might be more then that
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It means they're open for libel lawsuits
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AvoidOblivion 2/27/2023 11:19 PM
Gavin Newsome called out NIMBYs (“a person who objects to the siting of something perceived as unpleasant or hazardous in the area where they live, especially while raising no such objections to similar developments elsewhere.”) who are preventing the construction of student housing at UC Berkeley.
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BubsyFanboy 2/28/2023 4:54 AM
Vladimir Putin has awarded Steven Seagal the Order of Friendship for his contribution to “international cultural and humanitarian cooperation.” Seagal’s only global humanitarian act has been to stop making movies in the West.
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BubsyFanboy 2/28/2023 8:09 AM
Marjorie Taylor Greene and Thomas Massie vote against a resolution that mourns the loss of life in Turkey and Syria caused by the earthquakes
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MisterStompy 2/28/2023 9:17 AM
Trump leads Florida Governor Ron DeSantis by about 15 points in a new Republican presidential poll, with Nikki Haley and ex-VP Mike Pence trailing far behind.
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He also tweeted something implying he'd run third party if he lost lol
MisterStompy 2/28/2023 10:16 AM
inshallah
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/28/2023 11:09 AM
inshallah trump will ruin the republican party
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IAEA confirms that they found uranium particles enriched to up to 83.7% in modified cascades supposed to enrich to up to 60% at Iran's Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plan - Reuters
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I smell strike on Iran in the not too distant future ngl
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/28/2023 1:33 PM
for a moment i thought that said IKEA
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It's amazing to me the Iranians are dumb enough to show highly enriched uranium to the fucking iaea
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Like you have no credibility now
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MisterStompy 2/28/2023 5:07 PM
Critical support for Comrade Gaetz and his glorious anti capitalist crusade https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1630621020393553943
"As a general matter I don't take Beijing's propaganda at face value" -- Absolutely amazing: Matt Gaetz tried to use literal Chinese propaganda during a congressional hearing, and got called on it by a witness
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
inshallah trump will ruin the republican party
so should we encourage it?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/28/2023 7:23 PM
…hmmm
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#psyops
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/28/2023 7:41 PM
The Florida Democratic party would not exist if a new Senate bill is passed and signed into law.
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As requested.
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I know Florida is America's std covered dick, but even I feel like this is likely gonna backfire
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Oh yeah, this is illegal.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/28/2023 10:21 PM
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at this point im just going to start saving up for trips to the army navy store since they have cheap ass gear
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the responder ain't wrong
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this IS how you ruin a entire fucking economy of a state
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especially if doctors decide to take all of their skilled and talented staff over
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Holy shit guys
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I need a bit of backstory for the story
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/1/2023 1:21 AM
what now
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The leader of the walloon right wing party, Georges-Louis Bouchez, is going to "debate" member of the flemmish nationalist party Theo Francken
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Only a few miles from where I live
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Theo Francken was our "minister" for migration in 2014
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And just before the government was sworn in, it was revealed by the communist party he had been present at the birthday of Bob Maes
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A famous flemmish collaborationist during ww2
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One of the leaders of Volksunie, the previous iteration of Francken current party the NVA
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Never condemned the murder of a French speaking politician in Brussels by their Para wing
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Dude who made the "eulogy" when they got staf de clercq body back in belgium
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The leader of collaborationist Flanders
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And after the Francken incident Maes said he didn't regret collaboration
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Only a few miles from where I live
AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/1/2023 1:27 AM
Suvmit to the voices
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(Don't)
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I need to do something about it At least ask Bouchez what he thinks of that
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Expose him in front of his party
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This is so fucking wrong
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See you soon on Belgian TV if I can make it happen lol
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OK it's at 7pm so I will probable make it
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This needs to be exposed
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/1/2023 1:39 AM
Bring a box of rotten tomatos and some friends
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Others will take care of that and it gives them an east way out
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Wahh wahh lazy leftist walloons don't want democratic debate to happen
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/1/2023 1:47 AM
Also bring a bullhorn.
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I'd rather force the leader of the sole walloon right wing party to publicly back down or publicly align himself with fascists
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Throwing tomatoes will do nothing for or against his party
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Well actually it would rather help him solidify his base, to feel so persecuted by leftists
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I'd much rather have him exposed online
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He condemn it, and it spoils the alliance between the two parties
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He doesn't and we can paint it as a pro fascist position
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de oplossing... la solution...
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Evo
I'd rather force the leader of the sole walloon right wing party to publicly back down or publicly align himself with fascists
Good idea. Do you think you'll get a chance to ask the question though?
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knuckles
de oplossing... la solution...
Why do so many althis maps want to give the Ardennes to Germany lol
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They're French speakers
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knuckles
Good idea. Do you think you'll get a chance to ask the question though?
Hopefully
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If not let's resort to plan tomato lol
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Evo
I need to do something about it At least ask Bouchez what he thinks of that
AvoidOblivion 3/1/2023 7:41 AM
Do that. Call him out, make people know who he supports.
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One action, however small one may think it is, can change everything.
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Thing is bouchez often has debate with the commies too
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So it doesn't mean much about him
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But yeah exposing francken is important
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the chinese REALLY wanna fuck around and find out recently (edited)
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South China Sea?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/1/2023 8:43 AM
yessir
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Ngl I feel we'd do some shit like that if the Chinese were in the Gulf of Mexico or some shit
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or like wayyy too close to the West Coast or Hawaii
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Shit still scary cuz all it takes is one shot from one person and it could turn into a battle
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Shit still scary cuz all it takes is one shot from one person and it could turn into a battle
AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/1/2023 8:45 AM
and 1 battle into a war
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and China really wants one, but they want to be on the deffensive to get brownie points
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or at least thats what I'm thinking
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Idk
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China is way more powerful than Russia but I feel like they genuinely want to be left alone in their own little sphere, with their only military ambition being Taiwan
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and shit like the Solomon Islands and Australia they want to subvert
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To make them passive and more neutral
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Meanwhile Russia is actively trying to destabilize all of Europe and doing shady shit with mercs in Africa, cooperating with Iran and Syria in the Greater Middle East
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/1/2023 8:48 AM
I have my doubts because you know
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Taiwan
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I said that
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End of the first message I sent
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China sees it as the last Chinese territory to regain
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/1/2023 8:53 AM
yeah
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They have Macao, they have Hong Kong. They got Qingdao, Weihaiwei, Guangzhouwan, Manchukuo, Mengukuo, Xinjiang and Tibet by 1950-1960. They settled their dispute with Mongolia in that era too, 1940s-50s.
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I guess there's Arunachal Pradesh still but nobody gives a fuck about it
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/1/2023 8:54 AM
They're still fighting with rocks and sticks over it so eh
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as long as no escalation comes from that
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South China Sea islands are dumb af
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Senkaku/Diaoyu islands too
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/1/2023 8:55 AM
literally fake islands they made to get more bases
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smart idea, but they're doing it in international waters
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Spratly islands were already there
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But ye the artificial islands are crazy
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China is way more powerful than Russia but I feel like they genuinely want to be left alone in their own little sphere, with their only military ambition being Taiwan
It's very much not true
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China is expending outwards and making strategic allies and bases around SEA, the middle east and Africa
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Especially to deny India trade
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The String of Pearls is a geopolitical hypothesis proposed by United States political researchers in 2004. The term refers to the network of Chinese military and commercial facilities and relationships along its sea lines of communication, which extend from the Chinese mainland to Port Sudan in the Horn of Africa. The sea lines run through sever...
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They've been corrupting out European politicians so that they would oppose criticism of China, such as Portugal and Greece
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And are buying our strategic infrastructure like harbors en masse
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China definitely wants to be a hegemon, they just don't have the capabilities to just invade people like the US does... yet
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/1/2023 9:44 AM
china’s military is dysfunctional anyways
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they’ve had no major doctrinal development since the 70s where they still used human waves and horrible combined arms
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to put it into perspective how bad they were,
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a single Vietnamese machine gun nest was able to hold off THE ENTIRE FUCKING ADVANCE
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The whole army. I wish I was exaggerating
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because they just kept fruitlessly throwing men at it
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/1/2023 10:04 AM
lmfao
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
because they just kept fruitlessly throwing men at it
Tbf that was 50 years ago
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But yeah I don't expect much from China in a direct confrontation
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Best they can do is maybe take our a carrier if they attack first with ballistic missiles and it has a reduced escort
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Maybe
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Group speaks out after hospitals refused to offer treatment for a woman who had a near deadly miscarriage citing ambiguous law
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I....I'm not sure if I'm just "no no, suffer the consequences" or "We could convincingly argue abortion back into Louisiana through this"
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Based
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Unbased law though, ofc
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ye
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but the doctors are alright SUFFER
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Yeah wtf
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Being liable for "performing an abortion" is far better than letting a person die
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honestly I'm chuckling because they're realizing "okay maybe exceptions are fine"
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It's not really an exception though, because it's not really an abortion to remove an already dead fetus from a woman's body
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I don't think it was banned intentionally, I think it was just dumbasses writing super vague laws, primarily so people can't use loopholes to get around it
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and doctors are punishing them for their vague dumb ass
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as they should tbh
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
they’ve had no major doctrinal development since the 70s where they still used human waves and horrible combined arms
is combined arms bad? or are they doing combined arms badly? (edited)
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is combined arms bad? or are they doing combined arms badly? (edited)
they are doing combined arms bad
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like real bad
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Evo
they are doing combined arms bad
thats what i thought
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combined arms can be good
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Evo
they are doing combined arms bad
what are they even doing?
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its not "can be good", its not a special tactic or anything, its just the standard post ww2
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how badly is china doing?
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zim
what are they even doing?
nowadays, hard to tell since they havent fought in a real war since vietnam
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but yeah, it also means they have absolutely 0 experience
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/1/2023 3:21 PM
probably poorly, they have zero recent combat experience and combined arms requires constant innovation and experience in order to stay updated with the modern battlefield
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we should not underestimate china, certainly not
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but they havent given any evidence they'd fare any better than russia
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just like russia, they like to show their more modern troops and equipment
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the reality is that they still heavily rely on outdated equipment for the time being
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there are other fields where they really feel like the USSR
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for exemple in chips manufacturing
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they always lag behind the US & allies
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/1/2023 3:24 PM
i don’t lend much credibility to a country that does this
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and the recent initiatives to start developping new chips in the US, and tech embargoes, are only going to make things worse (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/1/2023 3:24 PM
and also gives their ground troops BLUE CAMO
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ngl I love chinese camo tho
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usually
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their stuff is ANGULAR and i'm all for it
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/1/2023 3:25 PM
blue camo just makes no sense though
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look at this dood
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/1/2023 3:27 PM
i heard about that some time ago
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horrible
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
and also gives their ground troops BLUE CAMO
AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/1/2023 3:29 PM
"The fuck did you just say motherfucker"
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/1/2023 3:30 PM
he says and then gets proceeded to be mowed down by a german machine gun because he marched into battle in line formation
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/1/2023 3:30 PM
lmfao
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Jacobin being fucking tools again
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/1/2023 3:36 PM
the thing about war is that you have to be slightly authoritarian to maintain domestic stability
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the bitter irony of it all
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the paradox of tolerance
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I mean even other than that they banned straight up pro russian parties even post 24/02
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/1/2023 3:37 PM
its war baby, what are you gonna do
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to prevent intolerance, you must be a bigot towards intolerance
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lmao
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jesus christ
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BubsyFanboy 3/2/2023 5:10 AM
The painting over of the fresco represents further "destruction of Polish cultural heritage in Belarus by the Lukashenko regime", says Poland's foreign ministry.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/2/2023 5:21 AM
Volusia Sheriff Mike Chitwood fumed that it was an “honor” to be included on the “hit list” of an organization behind a string of disturbing antisemitic incidents.
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In Volusia? Damn that's surprising
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Some update on the situation with the liberal/fascist debate in belgium
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I found an antifascist page in belgium that reports on stuff like that
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and turns out, the liberal politicien had recently RT a tweet from french far right politician Damien Rieu lmfao
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In case you don't know, it's the dude who spread on twitter that the dude who killed Shinzo Abe was a marxist But it was a 4chan hoax and it was a picture of Kojima with a Che TShirt
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"the far left kills"
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/2/2023 10:49 AM
Lmfao I remember that
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not surprised a politican fell for it
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If the Tories went through with this plan and then still held office parties, what do you think their polling numbers would be at?
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BubsyFanboy 3/2/2023 2:14 PM
That is huge.
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They offer to fly people from Iraq, Somalia, Syria, Afghanistan, etc into Minsk and then they bus them to the border with Poland
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Sometimes they have guards force them over the border
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BubsyFanboy
That is huge.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/2/2023 2:16 PM
ikr?
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knuckles
The thing is that Belarus has been weaponizing migrants
BubsyFanboy 3/2/2023 2:17 PM
Yeah, that we know.
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BubsyFanboy
Yeah, that we know.
BubsyFanboy 3/2/2023 2:17 PM
A very shameful play by Lukashenko.
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That happened? For real? In my life time? In this decade?
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I mean we're still going to be giving them a billion dollars a year but that's progress at least
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That happened? For real? In my life time? In this decade?
BubsyFanboy 3/2/2023 2:18 PM
Yup. I guess even the US is getting tired of defending them 24/7.
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Europe's a mixed bag when it comes to recognizing Palestine as a country, btw
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the palestine situation is such a mess
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like even if the 2 state solution could be agreed on by isreal (lmao), there is barely a territory that palestine could claim as theirs
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they got bantustan'd
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this is like the worse of both world
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if israel annexed palestine, they would have a massive voting block, and its actually the reason why israel doesnt do it
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also, aside from the territory problem, a palestinian state would also have 0 border in the west bank, and be completely surrounded by israel still, which is obviously a problem as well (negotiating a corridor to jordan could help I guess?)
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Remember Trump's plan? Lmfao
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knuckles
Remember Trump's plan? Lmfao
yeah lol
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WE GONNA DIG A BIG TUNNEL
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Evo
the palestine situation is such a mess
AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/2/2023 2:26 PM
its a headache
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AIF Cuirassier regiment
its a headache
like kurds and armenians, a fucking mess
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Establish a Christian confessional state and sort everything out from there
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knuckles
Remember Trump's plan? Lmfao
AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/2/2023 2:30 PM
wait what did he propose
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knuckles
Establish a Christian confessional state and sort everything out from there
FOR THE GRACE FOR THE MIGHT OF THE LORD
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/2/2023 2:30 PM
i missed that
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FOR THE GRACE FOR THE MIGHT OF THE LORD
makes me laugh how this sabaton song is used as some sort of glorification of christiannism
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even though its depicting the habsburg christian army sacking rome lmfao
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"deal of the century" it was called
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/2/2023 2:32 PM
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Arabs and Israelis alike laughed at it
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/2/2023 2:32 PM
lmfao
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unlike Reddit Armchair 'political scientists' I'm gonna stay in my fucking lane and let the proffessionals deal with this(they don't know either)
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It was more of Kushner's plan than Trump's
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you gotta love the fucking desert tech plant lmfao
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BubsyFanboy 3/2/2023 4:03 PM
Russia bans Teams, Discord, WhatsApp, Telegram, Snapchat, Skype. Via @AlexandruC4
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BubsyFanboy 3/2/2023 4:12 PM
CORRECTION: This currently only applies to state-affiliated companies and agencies.
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TheAnonymousDew 3/2/2023 4:34 PM
Holy shit. Republicans just introduced their "Parent's Bill of Rights" legislation — and it's somehow worse than expected. This bill would destroy public education, empower book banning, and harm LGBTQ+ youth. This is yet another attack against Gen Z. We have to fight back.
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The Christian Right has wanted secular education gone for years You see in addition to racial reasons, they want a dumbed down population that are obedient workers, kept in line by the prosperity gospel horseshit the religious right loves to push. So the workers can't ask questions about why their lives suck so bad
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So...seize the churches?
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It won't fucking pass because these fuckers don't have the senate
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his daughter Alaina was killed in the parkland shooting
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
is this too far
TheAnonymousDew 3/2/2023 5:13 PM
Nah
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Damn
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AvoidOblivion 3/2/2023 7:52 PM
That is a brutal response. It is not too far. “Too far” is destroying the futures of millions of kids in order to push your own personal agenda. Ryan Petty has taken it too far.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/2/2023 9:18 PM
Information pertaining to the Iowa Legislature as well as the Executive and Judicial branch in as much as they relate to the legislative branch
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AvoidOblivion 3/2/2023 9:47 PM
“Separation of Church and State” would like a word. The Supreme Court needs to do its fucking job.
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@Iowa
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those borders gave me a stroke
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ever feal that the term "maga communism" is the modern version of "national socialism"?
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a far right ideology adding a socialist term to its name, while using a false definition of socialism
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Ehh
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kinda
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the ones I've seen genuinely want a socialist economy
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although I've only met like two and can't stand these types of people so it might not be representative of the whole group
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Florida is straight up a fascist state
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/3/2023 3:40 AM
Petition for initiative that would secure constitutional right to abortion will now go to state’s ballot board for approval
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CLAIM: The U.S. Supreme Court will hear a case to remove President Joe Biden from office and reinstate former President Donald Trump in his place. AP’S ASSESSMENT: False.
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BubsyFanboy 3/3/2023 4:44 AM
No separation of Church and State and a ban on gay marriage. I've seen it all now.
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BubsyFanboy 3/3/2023 5:45 AM
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time to end the seal on blue fields flag
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Evo
Florida is straight up a fascist state
AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/3/2023 6:46 AM
Send in the airborne
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AvoidOblivion 3/3/2023 7:44 AM
Full translation with DeepL: "The conditions that required the elaboration of the draft law result, undoubtedly, from the necessity and obligation to implement some considerations with constitutional value, contained in the acts of the High Court of Constitutional Jurisdiction and which establish an indisputable postulate, namely that the state language of the Republic of Moldova is Romanian. The present legislative initiative is not an ordinary initiative to amend the Constitution, but a technical one, resulting from the obligation to execute and/or implement the acts of the Constitutional Court", it is stated in the information note of the draft Law on the implementation of the recitals of some decisions of the Constitutional Court. The draft provides for the obsolete text "operating on the basis of the Latin spelling" in Article 13 of the Constitution. Also, within 30 days of the entry into force of the law, the public authorities with competence to adopt, approve or issue normative acts inferior to the law will make the necessary amendments. The draft also provides that the National Holiday "Our Language", as it is currently named in the Parliament Decision on commemorative days, holidays and rest days and in the Labour Code, will be called "Romanian Language". Credit to u/adyrip1 on r/Europe for the post and translation. https://www.jurnal.md/ro/news/d62bd002b2c558dc/vot-istoric-sintagma-limba-romana-va-lua-locul-limbii-moldovenesti-in-toate-legile-republicii-moldova-doc.html
În toată legislația Republicii Moldova, sintagma „limba română” va lua locul „limbii moldovenești”. Vor fi înlocuite și sintagmele „limba oficială”, „limba de stat” și „limba maternă”. Un proiect de lege în acest sens, propus de PAS, a fost votat astăzi de Parlament. „Pentru” au votat 56 de deputați. BCS a organizat un mini-protest la tribuna ce...
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Full translation with DeepL: "The conditions that required the elaboration of the draft law result, undoubtedly, from the necessity and obligation to implement some considerations with constitutional value, contained in the acts of the High Court of Constitutional Jurisdiction and which establish an indisputable postulate, namely that the state language of the Republic of Moldova is Romanian. The present legislative initiative is not an ordinary initiative to amend the Constitution, but a technical one, resulting from the obligation to execute and/or implement the acts of the Constitutional Court", it is stated in the information note of the draft Law on the implementation of the recitals of some decisions of the Constitutional Court. The draft provides for the obsolete text "operating on the basis of the Latin spelling" in Article 13 of the Constitution. Also, within 30 days of the entry into force of the law, the public authorities with competence to adopt, approve or issue normative acts inferior to the law will make the necessary amendments. The draft also provides that the National Holiday "Our Language", as it is currently named in the Parliament Decision on commemorative days, holidays and rest days and in the Labour Code, will be called "Romanian Language". Credit to u/adyrip1 on r/Europe for the post and translation. https://www.jurnal.md/ro/news/d62bd002b2c558dc/vot-istoric-sintagma-limba-romana-va-lua-locul-limbii-moldovenesti-in-toate-legile-republicii-moldova-doc.html
yeah because moldovan isnt a real language lol
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its just romanian but in cyrillic, made up by the soviets to justify cutting them off romania
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AvoidOblivion 3/3/2023 7:49 AM
According to Russian propaganda it is.
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AvoidOblivion 3/3/2023 7:50 AM
From what I understand, Moldova is essentially Romanian in ethnicity and language. It was cut off from Romania by the Soviets. Would Moldovans be willing to join Romania?
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there's about a 50/50 split
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The unification of Moldova and Romania is a popular concept in the two countries that began during the Revolutions of 1989. The Romanian Revolution in 1989 and the independence of Moldova in 1991 further contributed to the development of a movement for the unification of the two Romanian-speaking countries. The question of reunification is recur...
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Ironically Romania is much more in favour of the union than Moldova
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a lot of those polls also ask transnistrians though
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moldova is one of the countries most brainwashed by Russia though, their political establishment (socialist and communist parties) are strongly pro russia and anti unfication
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Moldova minus Transnistria should join Tomania
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would be the best outcome yeah
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but I dont think anyone wants transnistria so they'd be forced to be independant lol
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The Bloc of Communists and Socialists (Romanian: Blocul Comuniștilor și Socialiștilor; Russian: Блок коммунистов и социалистов, BCS), previously known as the Electoral Bloc of Communists and Socialists (Romanian: Blocul electoral al Comuniștilor și Socialiștilor; Russian: Избирательный блок коммунистов и социалистов, BECS), is a communist and d...
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It makes the most sense for Ukraine to have Transnistria... but that's never happening lol
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yeah its about a third russian and vehemently pro russia
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with current polls it would be a pro-russian majority, only the liberals of PAS are against Russia, and as the party in power ofc their popularity goes down
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BubsyFanboy 3/3/2023 1:42 PM
Another Polish politician is said to have had their device hacked by government agents using the controversial Pegasus spyware.
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sounds like they need to get some anti-virus shit
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or a better password
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also
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Trump, apparently forgetting he said in 2020 that cutting social safety net programs would one day be on his “plate,” has warned DeSantis would gut Medicare and Social Security if elected president.
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MisterStompy 3/3/2023 7:40 PM
"FBI probe links to hate groups" gee you know it really makes you wonder if the guys with 350 fucking Nazi flags in their house are Nazis
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/3/2023 7:41 PM
Exclusive: employee says manager told her to stop marking cars for repair, as Ohio derailment brings hard look at industry’s record of blocking safety rules
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MisterStompy 3/3/2023 7:50 PM
This is why DeSantis is boned if he goes toe to toe with Trump, if you've seen him debate you know he's horrible at it, he's really skittish when somebody disagrees with him in person
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MisterStompy
"FBI probe links to hate groups" gee you know it really makes you wonder if the guys with 350 fucking Nazi flags in their house are Nazis
to be fair, their house might look like a klan rally, but they might make it a point to actively avoid looking fashy externally
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This is why DeSantis is boned if he goes toe to toe with Trump, if you've seen him debate you know he's horrible at it, he's really skittish when somebody disagrees with him in person
yup
7:52 PM
that's why its important to pit the two into a fight while dems get unified
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/3/2023 7:53 PM
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Two California men who pleaded guilty to plotting to firebomb the state Democratic Party’s headquarters and other buildings in Northern California after the defeat of former President Donald Trump were sentenced Wednesday to federal prison.
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MisterStompy 3/3/2023 7:55 PM
wait for it
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/3/2023 7:55 PM
I'm happy the crowd is that small
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MisterStompy 3/3/2023 7:56 PM
I've seen bigger crowds at powerviolence shows
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/3/2023 7:56 PM
XD
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MisterStompy 3/3/2023 8:49 PM
"horseshoe theory isn't a thing you guys, that's just liberal bullshit" https://twitter.com/RedPillGangTV/status/1631316135009308676
Nick Fuentes simps HARD for Joseph Stalin while denying the Holodomor: "I think it's overstated how many people died"
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MisterStompy
This is why DeSantis is boned if he goes toe to toe with Trump, if you've seen him debate you know he's horrible at it, he's really skittish when somebody disagrees with him in person
TheAnonymousDew 3/3/2023 8:56 PM
But Trump can't win the general
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No, but trump can fuck over GOP chances to win the general
9:02 PM
even if he ain't primaried
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good?
4:06 AM
I mean, isn't abortion illegal in poland atm?
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I mean, isn't abortion illegal in poland atm?
BubsyFanboy 3/4/2023 5:28 AM
For the most part, yeah. It's still legal in case of endangerment or life or health of the mother and in cases of rape. Abortions for malformed fetuses though were recently outlawed and deemed unconstitutional, making the draconian abortion laws in Poland even more restrictive. This is why there were such massive protests in 2020 and why you could hear stories of polish women dying from septic shock - some doctors were too scared to operate. (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/4/2023 8:45 AM
Appatently the Mayor of Maryland got caught with CP
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Oof
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Wait what
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Mayor?????
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/4/2023 9:19 AM
Yes
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THE mayor
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So we're not talking about the state????
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/4/2023 9:25 AM
the mayor
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MisterStompy 3/4/2023 1:44 PM
These people are fucking scum. Think they'll stop with trans people? Think again. https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1632057198577606657
Michael Knowles tells CPAC that "there can be no middle way in dealing with transgenderism. ... Transgenderism must be eradicated from public life entirely."
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1:44 PM
There is no hope for the republican party anymore.
1:46 PM
Tread on them before they tread on us.
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MisterStompy 3/4/2023 2:05 PM
All Americans should have equal rights regardless of trans or cis or whatever.
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I think calling mexicans rapists and criminals should have been the warning bell imo so I'm not surprised they're trying to genocide shit again
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2:20 PM
Time to behead the snake
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I'd argue that the Republican party was lost the moment Trump got nominated. We all just failed to see it at the time.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/4/2023 3:01 PM
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oh boy, more israeli fascism
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MisterStompy
These people are fucking scum. Think they'll stop with trans people? Think again. https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1632057198577606657
floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/4/2023 3:07 PM
next paycheck i'm buying a plate carrier
3:07 PM
this is it.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/4/2023 3:08 PM
They may not like it if we use their song but fuck them, Keep your rifle by your side
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/4/2023 3:08 PM
How much longer until we get the revised version of Goebbel's "Do you want total war?" speech?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/4/2023 3:09 PM
Hmmmm, not long
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wasn't that speech Goebbel admitting, aside from genocide, that the Nazis were starting to lose. Badly?
3:25 PM
hence total war?
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See, that's the reason I have no sympathy for Qanon nuts.
4:54 PM
I have anxiety
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I am clinically diagnosed that I am fearful of a lot of shit
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Life is a constant battle of panic attacks for me
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I literally am hardwired to be fearful
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but I am not a conspiracy nut. I have a healthy skepticism of shit, but I also know that people can be bias, even unintentionally, and its a real problem. Plus most Qanon nuts have a type of "special" complex
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4:59 PM
ironically despite calling us all snowflakes, they are the ones who feel entitled to get special treatment
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They are the ones who want to feel right, to feel vindicated, to feel Special
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but they aren't
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they are plain, bog standard fuckboys
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and internally, it fucking kills them
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they HATE not feeling special, but they don't want to work on improving themselves, so they demonize and drag the other down
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because fuck those who just wanna live and do what they like, right? (/s)
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MisterStompy 3/4/2023 8:01 PM
Biggest biden W so far
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/4/2023 8:02 PM
lmao
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eh, I still stick to sneaking anti-lyching laws as fed hate crimes as a huge understated win but I take this too
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CAROLVS III DEI GRATIA BRITANNIARVM REGNORUMQVE SUORVM CETERORVM REX CONSORTIONIS POPULORVM PRINCEPS FIDEI DEFENSOR (edited)
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SHIT THEY SPEAKING TONGUES, GET THE SALT
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/5/2023 12:46 AM
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TheAnonymousDew 3/5/2023 12:54 AM
I had fun with a MAGA earlier
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I accused them of "socialism" over the Dr. Seuss books and they got really mad.. (edited)
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"You mean the legal owners of Dr. Seuss' estate, who owned the books' copyrights and thus could do whatever they wanted with them? Amazing, how copyright and private property rights work. I thought Conservatives were all for both. Unless you want to force them to keep publishing the books against their will. I thought you were against socialism for that very reason. Yet here you are advocating for the same tactics you accuse "socialists" of employing"
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MisterStompy
Tread on them before they tread on us.
Nahhhhhhh we must compromise, you silly radical leftist /s
1:59 AM
The intolerant left strikes again! We can't have an opinion in this country!
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Richard Shirreff, former commander of NATO forces in Europe, said in an interview with the BBC that the Western support for Ukraine is insufficient.
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8:57 AM
NEXTA is very pro-Ukr source
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But I think Shirreff is right (edited)
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Issue is that too many Americans disagree and the government isn't doing too much to ramp up aid
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/5/2023 9:22 AM
Social media sites are inundated with police requests for user data and may cooperate even if not legally required to, one legal expert told Insider.
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BubsyFanboy 3/5/2023 9:50 AM
70 years ago, Holodomor Man died
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BubsyFanboy
70 years ago, Holodomor Man died
AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/5/2023 9:53 AM
Talking about that, you saw the movie?
9:53 AM
"The death of stalin" ? absolute laugh riot
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BubsyFanboy
70 years ago, Holodomor Man died
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/5/2023 10:06 AM
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"The death of stalin" ? absolute laugh riot
BubsyFanboy 3/5/2023 10:06 AM
Haven't seen it, but I know another laugh riot - The Fall Of Berlin. That stalinist film can also be very comedic.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/5/2023 10:08 AM
The death of stalin is an acutal comedy lol
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The death of stalin is an acutal comedy lol
MisterStompy 3/5/2023 10:10 AM
I'm off to represent the Red Army at the buffet. You girls have fun.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/5/2023 10:11 AM
XD
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/5/2023 10:12 AM
Ahh, Zhukov. The best thing to come out of the USSR along with the AK and Mosin.
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Years after the war, a newspaper asked Zhukov what the proudest moment of his life was. He said "Killing Beria".
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/5/2023 4:46 PM
Really weird thing I recently found
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In Idaho, every able-bodied male between 18-45 is a member of the state militia
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it's a part of the state constitution
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that's not gonna end well
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/5/2023 4:48 PM
no no no, this is interesting.
4:48 PM
perhaps that would mean that people here in Idaho could form a proper militia and get away with it, and just say we're acting as members of the Idaho state militia
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/5/2023 7:59 PM
Christopher Justice broke it down into incredible details most of us probably weren't even aware of.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/5/2023 9:03 PM
Former U.S. president headlines ousted autocrat double-header by following Brazil's Jair Bolsonaro at annual far-right convention.
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AvoidOblivion 3/5/2023 10:17 PM
NEW YORK (AP) — A former U.S. Army private from Kentucky who was devoted to a violent extremist group seeking to erode or destroy Western civilization was sentenced to the maximum 45 years in prison Friday for plotting a murderous terrorist attack on his paratrooper unit.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
In Idaho, every able-bodied male between 18-45 is a member of the state militia
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knuckles
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Hard disagree.
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My state has unfortunately not had a militia or state defense force since shortly after the end of WWII
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knuckles
My state has unfortunately not had a militia or state defense force since shortly after the end of WWII
No state (State or state) should have a military force, let alone a forced conscription based one. (edited)
10:42 PM
The only purpose of a state military is to enforce it's authority over it's citizens.
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Incidentally, with the exception of a very small minority of the founding fathers, virtually all of them held that opinion. Which is why the Continental Army was disbanded... and the law prohibiting the US Army from conducting military operations on US soil outside of declared war against an invader was created.
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The only purpose of a state military is to enforce it's authority over it's citizens.
Defense against invaders is another purpose
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Defense against invaders is another purpose
The last time someone invaded the US was before rifled barrels were fitted on firearms outside of custom crafted pieces.
10:49 PM
With over 120 million gun owners and over 400 million guns in the US, no one would be stupid enough to invade us even if we had no Army.
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Wanna see US citizens set aside all their differences? Yeah... drop some paratroopers over one of our states...
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Last time we were attacked in a major way, however, was 2001 (edited)
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by a state actor? 1941
10:51 PM
We have nuclear weapons as well and some of the most advanced tech in the world
10:51 PM
Invasion is not a main fear, but we should have some level of preparedness
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by a state actor? 1941
I said invaded. 2001 was a terrorist attack, and 1941 they attacked a territory by air... not a State by ground forces.
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We have nuclear weapons as well and some of the most advanced tech in the world
So does China, but they could literally land their entire military on the West Coast, and at best they'd make it to the Cascades and Sierra Nevada's before they were massacred, tech and all.
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The US military has also been used to defend allies and potentially useful neutral countries
10:53 PM
South Korea, Kuwait, Bosnia, Kosovo
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The US military has also been used to defend allies and potentially useful neutral countries
Was any of that our business to become involved in? Kuwait we only defended because they were a primary oil supplier. South Korea we got involved in because of the "red scare" which was problematic at best.
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Bosnia/Kosovo we didn't do half of what we could have done to stop the killing.
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Was any of that our business to become involved in? Kuwait we only defended because they were a primary oil supplier. South Korea we got involved in because of the "red scare" which was problematic at best.
Why wouldn't it be?
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Why wouldn't it be?
First, if we'd not been neck deep in capitalist ties to Kuwait, we'd have let Saddam have it.
10:56 PM
But our oligarchs said jump, and we did.
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I don't think we should get involved in every conflict, but when the lines between who the aggressor is and who the victim is are pretty clear and other factors are considered, why not?
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First, if we'd not been neck deep in capitalist ties to Kuwait, we'd have let Saddam have it.
No shit. If Kuwait had no economic potential whatsoever, we wouldn't have cared. At least our government wouldn't have
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South Korea was just the prelude to Vietnam... another conflict we should never have been involved in. The French fucked those people over for 200 years.
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We still should've cared either way, whether it was profitable or not
10:58 PM
Vietnam was supposed to hold a referendum on reuniting, but the South prevented it and the US backed the South in doing so
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We still should've cared either way, whether it was profitable or not
A volunteer force could have been organized to offer to Kuwait... not using standing army to send poor kids duped into enlisting to die for oil profits.
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Vietnam was supposed to hold a referendum on reuniting, but the South prevented it and the US backed the South in doing so
Arguably every group of people in Vietnam would have been better off if we'd never sent advisors or CIA into the country in the first place.
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We lost lives in Kuwait, but it was not nearly as bad as other wars we've fought. Especially unjustifiable ones like Vietnam. I believe we lost about 150 soldiers out of 750,000 in that war
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We lost lives in Kuwait, but it was not nearly as bad as other wars we've fought. Especially unjustifiable ones like Vietnam. I believe we lost about 150 soldiers out of 750,000 in that war
I lost a best friend to the "embargo" afterward... and I lost my soul a second later.
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Embargo?
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The NFZs?
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We boarded every single ship heading to Iraq/Kuwait to check for contraband for a long time after we pushed Iraq out of Kuwait.
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Our VBSS teams cleared each ship compartment by compartment terrorizing civilian mariners while manifests were checked and cargo was inspected.
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Holding civilians at gunpoint for simply being on a ship heading to a port our oligarchs didn't like.
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Some of those teams were led by Coast Guard specialists in drug interdiction, and they set the tone for the boarding. Ours was a Coast Guard version of Derek Chauvin.
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We should not have been there. I should not have been there.
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I put quotes around "embargo" because it was called an embargo... but in practice it was an old school blockade with guns trained on ships ready to sink them in a heartbeat, and firearms trained on civilian sailors ready to kill them in the same amount of time.
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Do you think we shouldn't have been involved with Kuwait at all in 1990-91?
11:10 PM
Not the embargo and so on afterwards
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Do you think we shouldn't have been involved with Kuwait at all in 1990-91?
Saddam was a motherfucker. But that led to his eventual death and the power vacuum it caused created a monster 100 times worse.
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That was caused over a decade later
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That was caused over a decade later
It was a chain of events. Set in motion by oligarchs looking to secure oil rights in Iraq.
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Saddam gave them the catalyst by invading Kuwait.
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But it was their goal all along.
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I know, I just mean that it was quite possible for us to push them out of Kuwait, make them pay reparations and leave it at that
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Saddam was set to give his oil to Russia in 2003.
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I know, I just mean that it was quite possible for us to push them out of Kuwait, make them pay reparations and leave it at that
Not so long as oligarchs had Bush Sr. to do their dirty work.
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There can be no "what if's" without taking into account the fact that our government is entirely bought and paid for by the wealthy.
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Of course
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But okay, I'll play along. Let's say the US was made up entirely of federated anarchist collectives, and had a community defense network they all participated in. No money, no oligarchs, literally no corruption in the structure at all by powerful people. And Kuwait begged us for help. We could open up a call to the population for volunteers. I got 10 bucks says almost none would go, because Kuwait is a Monarchy... it's a very wealthy monarchy that treats it's people like shit, has a middle class they use to subjugate the rest... basically just like Saudi Arabia.
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Why would we ever volunteer to defend a fucking monarchy that exploits it's people?
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Because their people are facing a threat 10x worse than their emir
11:20 PM
Iraq basically just looted and pillaged the place
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Iraq basically just looted and pillaged the place
So? Why force our poorest kids to risk their lives to stop the pillaging? Because it's the right thing to do? Maybe, but that assumes that we have authority over every place on earth... American Exceptionalism + Ethnocentrism + Oligarchs.
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you said this would be voluntary?
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even in the real world, it was sort of voluntary
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There was no draft
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people already in the military had no choice of course
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but by that point, we had already just fought in Panama
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The US military relies on grooming people in poverty to coerce them into joining.
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and the war was not just the US against Iraq; the authority came from the UN
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but by that point, we had already just fought in Panama
Because of the Canal, which is only important to the very wealthy.
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It was about the drug trade as well
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Noriega was involved in drug trafficking for the CIA, iirc
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It was about the drug trade as well
Yeah, so they could funnel hard drugs into innercity neighborhoods to prevent a race war and further impoverish POC.
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Yeah
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It got "out of hand" like ALL our foreign policy did. We used the Marine Corps to massacre entire governments down there for corporate interests.
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"Banana Republic" isn't just a clothing store.
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As early as 1910-14 too (edited)
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All following the Adams Doctrine regarding the Caribbean and Central/South America... going back to when John Quincy was Prez.
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A motherfucker with Daddy Issues and a taste of power based on legacy.
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Even IF Kuwait was just... and IF we
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had just stopped at the boarder.
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And if we'd never embargo'd Iraq.
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The first is arguable, the rest never happened...
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We've still used our military forces (kids duped into joining because it was that or a life in poverty, ironically the vast majority remained impoverished after serving) to impose our capitalists will on other nations with millions of gallons of blood as the price paid.
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I wouldn't call it imposing "our capitalists' will on other nations" considering this would be siding with an oppressed people against a nation that directly imposed its will upon it
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But otherwise, I think I agree
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I wouldn't call it imposing "our capitalists' will on other nations" considering this would be siding with an oppressed people against a nation that directly imposed its will upon it
That one instance. But what of virtually all of South America, where we bayonetted and massacred thousands of people a month to force regimes willing to allow plantation owners to operate there?
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That fits your description perfectly
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No state should have a standing military. It will be used to oppress. Even the most vehemently opposed founding fathers of this country agreed on that point. Adams, Jefferson, Washington, Hamilton, and on and on and on.
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Frankly it's one of the only things I agree with them on without reservation.
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In fact I think of the major players at the time of the writing of the Constitution... only Madison was in opposition.
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And even the guy he rode coattails on, Jefferson, disagreed with him on that point. It was about the only thing Jefferson, Hamilton, and Adams agreed on. (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/5/2023 11:49 PM
Unrelated, but I do like the whole militia thing because it’s totally unenforced from what I’ve seen and it would give you the capability of actually doing militia things and being able to get away with it (if the courts are friendly to you) by saying you’re acting as members of the Idaho state militia
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Unrelated, but I do like the whole militia thing because it’s totally unenforced from what I’ve seen and it would give you the capability of actually doing militia things and being able to get away with it (if the courts are friendly to you) by saying you’re acting as members of the Idaho state militia
They have literally no State office responsible for managing it?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/6/2023 12:09 AM
…oh shit there’s actually a bill moving forward right now to repeal militia prohibitions in idaho. But yeah, I found literally nothing else on it except for a little excerpt about it in the constitution, but somehow militias are also banned, but there are also self-proclaimed militias openly doing stuff in Idaho.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
…oh shit there’s actually a bill moving forward right now to repeal militia prohibitions in idaho. But yeah, I found literally nothing else on it except for a little excerpt about it in the constitution, but somehow militias are also banned, but there are also self-proclaimed militias openly doing stuff in Idaho.
And all of those appear to be 3%r assholes.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/6/2023 12:10 AM
Yup.
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Lots and lots of threepers here
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My RSO last month when I shot an M249 was one
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But the whole Called by the Governor is the real issue I have... Too bad so sad, Republican Gov. wants you to massacre transfolk because they are "groomers"... are you 18-45? Don't want to do it? Great we've got a firing squad for traitors like you.
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One of my native buddies online from east Oregon said Idaho is a hotspot for klansmen when I grilled them for info
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/6/2023 12:13 AM
It is
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One of my native buddies online from east Oregon said Idaho is a hotspot for klansmen when I grilled them for info
Oh yeah... and Oregon was literally founded as a white haven.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/6/2023 12:13 AM
It’s not as bad as it was in the 90s, but Idaho is still incredibly fascist
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Especially up in the north
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I think 10-15 years ago a Hispanic woman got murdered up there because her car broke down and jackasses saw it as an opportunity
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Especially up in the north
Right smack dab where it would be perfect to have an underground railroad station.
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As it goes north into Montana, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba
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Militias are quite cool
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Idaho is awful
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and it's getting bigger
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/6/2023 12:14 AM
the immigration here has slowed down, thankfully
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(although there's hopefully not as many nazis in eastern Oregon)
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/6/2023 12:15 AM
there’s probably more (edited)
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anywhere outside of the the Oregon coast cities are EXTREMELY fashie
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There’s even a movement there to redraw the borders and become part of Idaho
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I just said that
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Idaho is getting bigger
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Idaho is getting bigger
time to John Brown them?
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BubsyFanboy 3/6/2023 2:42 AM
The 15-year-old took his own life less than two months after state media reported on his case.
In order to take revenge on the mother, Polish state media, with help from the prosecutors office - both now controlled by the extremist far-right - decided to reveal details of the boy's case. He was identified. He committed suicide.
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Similar attacks, similarly coordinated, have been launched against adults in Poland, as I have written before and personally experienced. But this is the first to result in the death of a child. The name of the ruling party, "Law and Justice,' has truly descended into farce.
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Polish alt right about to have a bad time?
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"The name of the ruling party, "Law and Justice,' has truly descended into farce." Naw bro, it was always there.
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BubsyFanboy 3/6/2023 4:36 AM
Exactly. Turns out the land scandal from their 2005-2007 government with LPR and Samoobrona was just a warning of things to the things to come a decade later
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By this point, their name was already questionable
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But the first real major they've done in 2015 was make their name look stupid by breaking the rule of law.
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BubsyFanboy 3/6/2023 8:57 AM
Russia last month halted oil exports to Poland one day after Poland became the first country to donate modern Leopard tanks to Ukraine.
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There is a story unfolding in Poland now so awful I can hardly write it. It concerns a young boy who was the victim of a pedophile. The pedophile was convicted; the boy's name was kept anonymous, as the law requires. Unfortunately, the boy's mother is an opposition politician.
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Pretty sad story out of Poland
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BubsyFanboy 3/6/2023 3:18 PM
Yeah. It is awful.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/6/2023 8:06 PM
By Eileen Sullivan and Zolan Kanno-Youngs
President Biden has turned to increasingly restrictive measures as his administration prepares for the end of Title 42, which has allowed border authorities to swiftly expel migrants.
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"Kneeling roses disappearing Into Moses' dry mouth Breaking into Fort Knox Stealing our intentions Hangers sitting dripped in oil Crying, "freedom" Handed to obsoletion Still you feed us lies from the tablecloth"
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"Blast off, it's party time And we don't live in a fascist nation Blast off, it's party time And where the fuck are you?" There's a /s after and we don't live in a fascist nation.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/6/2023 8:23 PM
every time I listen to that song I say "You sure?" after the "we don't live in a fascist nation" line lmao
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every time I listen to that song I say "You sure?" after the "we don't live in a fascist nation" line lmao
The line is spoken by one of the "totally not burningman party goers" they talk about earlier.
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Generally a liberal techie who thinks they are hard core for spending a week in the desert burning art. (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/6/2023 8:31 PM
ahhhhh, makes much more sense that way
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Yeah they are ripping on the people who thought that BurningMan was hard core anarchist. The work ranch back then was... kinda... but that's not who they were talking about. They were talking about all the glitter covered naked fucks who show up a couple days into it and get drunk/high and rape all the drunk/high party girls. (edited)
8:34 PM
Alternatively you can apply the same to all the college kids who still believe in American Exceptionalism while pretending to be "woke". "US has it's problems, but it's not fascist like those other countries."
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/6/2023 9:11 PM
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Spoiler: He's not actually kidding.
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Holy fucking shit. This is where we are at.
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One side wants to commit genocide and isn't even trying to hide it anymore. The other suggests we don't need to fight back and actively strips our means to do so away from us while giving more funding to those who put the boot to our necks.
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What is it going to take for this nightmare to end?
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One side wants to commit genocide and isn't even trying to hide it anymore. The other suggests we don't need to fight back and actively strips our means to do so away from us while giving more funding to those who put the boot to our necks.
Meanwhile both sides are so steeped into American Exceptionalism that they cannot see that both capitalism, and the environment are collapsing around them.
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What is it going to take for this nightmare to end?
The fall of capitalism via it's inability/unwillingness to prepare for climate change. People will starve to death, die of heat stroke, dehydration, and hypothermia as the systems they relied upon fail.
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And as those death tolls rise, so will the violence people resort to to prevent it.
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The thin veneer of "civilization" will come crashing down neighborhood by neighborhood.
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And the government when it finally acknowledges the million people have died from something they could have prevented with just an ounce of foresight... will do only enough to protect the wealthy white folks.
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Brighter minds than mine have warned us of all this for about a hundred years.
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One side wants to commit genocide and isn't even trying to hide it anymore. The other suggests we don't need to fight back and actively strips our means to do so away from us while giving more funding to those who put the boot to our necks.
It's regarding Knowles' response to genocide accusations
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BubsyFanboy 3/7/2023 5:09 AM
Jesus, the sheer copium
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BubsyFanboy 3/7/2023 2:01 PM
Türkiye, ORC poll: Presidential election Kılıçdaroğlu (CHP-S&D): 57% (+7) Erdoğan (AKP~NI): 43% (-7) +/- vs. 2-5 January 2023 Fieldwork: 4-6 March 2023 Sample size: 1,850 ➤ https://t.co/0NuW7xTmmj #anket
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/7/2023 2:45 PM
piss poor sample size
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but it looks promising
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
piss poor sample size
1k-1.8k is standard sample size for polls in europe
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/7/2023 2:50 PM
ahh
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sometimes you have a few at 10k, but if you take french or german polls, most of them were between 1 and 3k
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/7/2023 3:52 PM
Excuse me what
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/7/2023 3:53 PM
That's a funny way to say Herbert Hoover.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/7/2023 3:53 PM
yeah people think FDR was a socialist
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tbf he was
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/7/2023 3:53 PM
so they automatically find reasons to hate him
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for his era's standards at least
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God forbid man scared the shit outta the supreme court
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and did not give a fuck about the rich for the most part
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it helps he had a deep DEEP hatred of Ford
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tbf he was
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/7/2023 3:54 PM
And in comparison to most politicians nowadays, he still is.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/7/2023 3:55 PM
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also was a cripple
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/7/2023 3:55 PM
Polio was a bitch
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grandma has polio, can confirm
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had*
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/7/2023 3:56 PM
Imagine if FDR was a politician today.
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The GOP would fucking lose their minds.
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Man would be like a more stubborn Bernie, with a tendency to try to blackmail the supreme court to do what he wanted
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/7/2023 3:57 PM
I feel everyone would try to find a way to hate him for something
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also not above threatening people
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/7/2023 3:57 PM
Namely the terminally online of Twitter
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Bold of you to assume FDR, being old money, wouldn't lowkey sue twitter into oblivion
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/7/2023 3:58 PM
He would definately do that
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just stating the obvious lol
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Bold of you to assume FDR, being old money, wouldn't lowkey sue twitter into oblivion
AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/7/2023 3:58 PM
That alone would get me to vote for him lmao
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man was the democratic version of obligation of nobility, in a fashion
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man had the FBI at his beck and call
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man was so beloved, its why the GOP introduced Term limits
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/7/2023 4:08 PM
XD
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TheAnonymousDew 3/7/2023 4:09 PM
We need another FDR instead of what I call the "Wimpycrats"
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I call them that because many are terrified of using the power they do have to reign in the QAnon and MAGA lunatics that have taken over the GOP (edited)
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so someone well off, manipulative yet considerate on their subjects/voters, wants to kill elon musk most likely and has a buddy not above kidnapping people?
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TheAnonymousDew 3/7/2023 4:11 PM
MAGA and QAnon are running around with AK47s and they're playing with water pistols
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so someone well off, manipulative yet considerate on their subjects/voters, wants to kill elon musk most likely and has a buddy not above kidnapping people?
TheAnonymousDew 3/7/2023 4:11 PM
Well, TBF, a lot of people want Musk dead
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Well, TBF, a lot of people want Musk dead
AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/7/2023 4:13 PM
Count me in :D
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in minecraft that is
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wink wink nudge nudge
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everyone who wants Musk in the dirt
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TheAnonymousDew 3/7/2023 4:16 PM
Point is FDR is who we need right now
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MisterStompy 3/7/2023 5:10 PM
Protesters in Georgia's capital Tbilisi have broken the barriers at the main entrance to the Georgian parliament.
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These are pro west protesters who hate how the government is supposedly cozying up too much to the Russians
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idk too much about it that's why I say "supposedly"
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Not trying to imply they're controlled opposition or something lol
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Woman holding an EU flag facing water cannon by herself. Happening now in #Tbilisi. Georgian people are out in the streets to defend the country’s European future amid ruling party’s adoption of Russian foreign agent law. Georgia’s future will be European. #NoToRussianLaw
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The situation in Tbilisi is escalating - protesters started throwing "Molotov's cocktails" at police. President of Georgia will address the nation soon.
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Protesters in Tbilisi have reached the steps of the parliament building. Situation is derailing. Reason for the protest is a law which is a copy of the Russian “foreign agent” law and which is basically a wild card to discredit any opposition. #Georgia https://t.co/nUWZ50JaMm
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⚡The President of Georgia addressed the people of the country. “I am with you because you represent free Georgia. A country that belongs to free Europe, and no one can take it away. Nobody needs this law, it was written under the dictation of Moscow.”
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idk too much about it that's why I say "supposedly"
floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/7/2023 5:35 PM
the parliament passed an extremely protectionist bill
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Supposedly the "Russian foreign agents law" proposed by Georgia is not too different from ours either
5:37 PM
I don't know if this is true though, or just propaganda
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Or it's modeled off of an older US law
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What is the closest an organization can legally be to a militia without being a militia? Just a fitness and military enthusiast group that doesn't use real firearms?
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It seems like laws against militias in the US generally go unenforced anyways, unless a group is consistently committing crimes or violating firearms regulations or something
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Oath Keepers have been around for like 15 years at least now
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/7/2023 8:47 PM
if they want you gone they’ll use the fact that you’re a militia to sack you
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so it doesn’t matter if it’s unenforced or not
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militias are about to be legalized in idaho tho
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
militias are about to be legalized in idaho tho
Won't change the federal law. Feds could ignore that state law to prosecute.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/7/2023 9:15 PM
Fair.
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It seems like laws against militias in the US generally go unenforced anyways, unless a group is consistently committing crimes or violating firearms regulations or something
bat'koMakhno 3/7/2023 9:20 PM
I think the last time the militia law was enforced was in Texas about 40 - 50 years ago. but that was a militia of a few thousand that was actively causing problems. owning and training with firearms and being part of a group isn't considered a "militia" necessarily. from a legel perspective its usually just too hard to differentiate that from the 2A.
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I think the last time the militia law was enforced was in Texas about 40 - 50 years ago. but that was a militia of a few thousand that was actively causing problems. owning and training with firearms and being part of a group isn't considered a "militia" necessarily. from a legel perspective its usually just too hard to differentiate that from the 2A.
While true, they can still do so particularly if the organization is intent on protecting oppressed citizens. A lot of the time they won't bother with prosecuting them, they will just massacre them.
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Also... welcome to the discord.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/7/2023 9:25 PM
He contacted me off the Idaho instagram page, pretty glad to have a third guy here in the state. Hoping to get stuff going but I'm having a hard time thinking up ideas for him to do solo, since we're really geographically separated. (edited)
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Also... welcome to the discord.
bat'koMakhno 3/7/2023 9:26 PM
Thanks! Glad to be here
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Thanks! Glad to be here
floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/7/2023 9:27 PM
By the way, this is a totally horizontal place. Don't think of me as somewhere in a heirarchy above you just because I run the page lmao, you're totally free to do whatever you want. We have flyers and stickers that I encourage you to print out and post around town, for a start.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
By the way, this is a totally horizontal place. Don't think of me as somewhere in a heirarchy above you just because I run the page lmao, you're totally free to do whatever you want. We have flyers and stickers that I encourage you to print out and post around town, for a start.
Well, it might not have been horizontal if you and I weren't such vocal anti-hierarchical annoyances. 😉
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/7/2023 9:29 PM
lmao
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It's not totally horizontal
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Everyone is equal, but I'm above everyone else
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/7/2023 9:29 PM
true
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we're all socially equal but you just have a step stool
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Everyone is equal, but I'm above everyone else
I love that for you.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
we're all socially equal but you just have a step stool
I might have suggested a booster seat... but that works too.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/7/2023 9:30 PM
pffff
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Everyone is equal, but I'm above everyone else
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/7/2023 9:32 PM
Meanwhile I'm burrowing through the dirt.
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Everyone is equal, but I'm above everyone else
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/8/2023 12:54 AM
Fox News host Tucker Carlson privately expressed contempt for former President Trump in text messages revealed in court filings as part of the network’s ongoing legal fight with Dominion Voti…
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Trump got a lotta ammo for the trail
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PiS would face 0 consequences
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Imagine
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China?
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China?
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/8/2023 2:05 PM
South Korea.
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Honestly, my guess was Japan.
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Ah
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I was gonna say wait don't Asian countries have a serious overwork problem? (edited)
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auto correct WHY
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Honestly, my guess was Japan.
MisterStompy 3/8/2023 2:08 PM
Japan is getting better about this sort of thing. Apparently Microsoft employees over there are the happiest and most productive in the world because of a 4 day work week.
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CaulPartBallMop 3/8/2023 2:21 PM
I work 4x10s and it's literally the only thing keeping me at this job
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MisterStompy 3/8/2023 2:56 PM
There's a reason the right is drifting more and more towards terrorism. Their ideas just aren't resonating with people anymore. They know they can't win in elections, so they're just going to kill people instead.
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Most people really don't give a fuck about trans people. They don't care of Bill becomes Beth, they're far more concerned about if they'll be able to feed their kids.
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Happening now, HB7 in New Mexico would make New Mexico a safe state for gender affirming care and would protect the right to access gender affirming care and abortion. Should this pass, New Mexico will be added to a list of the top states for transgender people.
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some good news, sorry for twitter link but this is good!
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MisterStompy 3/8/2023 3:18 PM
Hasn't New Mexico basically completely flipped on social issues in the past 5 years?
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also, given the rivalry of New Mexico and Texas, I imagine at least half of this is just New Mexico shitting on texas
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MisterStompy 3/8/2023 3:19 PM
Also I would still highly reccomend you don't move to New Mexico, there's a research facility there doing really crazy shit with teleportation technology, it just seems like a bad idea.
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Hasn't New Mexico basically completely flipped on social issues in the past 5 years?
Arguably they've always politically been neutral, but in recent years they've been slowly blue-ifying. I do think part of it was all the lefts peeps from texas moved there
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also mexicans
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a LOT of mexicans there
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also mexicans
MisterStompy 3/8/2023 3:19 PM
Mexicans live in Mexico? What?
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New Mexico*
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MisterStompy 3/8/2023 3:20 PM
Mexico 2
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the state new Mexico
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MisterStompy 3/8/2023 3:20 PM
Mexico: Remastered
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GOD DAMNIT STOMP
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MisterStompy 3/8/2023 3:20 PM
Mexico without the yellow filter
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/8/2023 3:22 PM
Mexico 2: The Mexicaning.
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MisterStompy 3/8/2023 3:34 PM
ay Tone
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3:34 PM
Tony Soprano says "Trans Rights"
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Tony Soprano would not say that
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Tony Soprano would not say that
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/8/2023 3:35 PM
Yeah, the whole point of that show was that the mob is anything but nice.
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They don't care if you're trans, cis, straight, or gay. If you fucked with them, you WILL die.
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Hell, you might die regardless of fucking with them.
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MisterStompy 3/8/2023 3:43 PM
Speaking of mafias, I don't think it's a good idea to get into a shouting match with a Teamster. https://twitter.com/MorePerfectUS/status/1633515575921057803
We're in a new era of labor. Teamsters President @TeamsterSOB refuses to take disrespect from Republican Senator Markwayne Mullin in front of the Senate today. Because unions are ready to fight back. via @People4Bernie
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Just a few days ago I saw a short documentary about the production of the first Dolemite film. Teamsters strongarmed the film crew into signing onto their union. There was physical altercations involved with that.
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teamsters are all ex mob most of the time
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or learned their tactics from them
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Its something I've pointed out before, that ironically unions do have to take some mob like approach to shit
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mostly in circumventing their power
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TheAnonymousDew 3/8/2023 5:19 PM
Sure, but the Teamsters are corrupt
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America needs unions sure, but maybe the Teamsters aren't the right ones
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Of course not. But I'm just pointing out how the Teamsters tend to stay in power often uses very aggressive tactics Legal or otherwise
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/8/2023 5:32 PM
i mean, in france cops are scared of the big union enforcers
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should be the same here
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Its something I've pointed out before, that ironically unions do have to take some mob like approach to shit
MisterStompy 3/8/2023 7:25 PM
I mean the Teamsters are the most agregious example. They're the reason we can't find Jimmy Hoffa. I just don't understand why somebody thinks it's a good idea to get uppity with a Teamster.
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MisterStompy 3/8/2023 7:26 PM
>Interracial See if they just dropped that one they'd probably have gotten away with it. Unfortunately for them, that's the only one Clarence Thomas opposes for some reason.
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MisterStompy 3/8/2023 7:33 PM
Me: I HATE forced entry into government buildings for the purpose of radical political change! Also me: GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO https://twitter.com/saintjavelin/status/1633545769222283278
In Tbilisi, about 50 thousand people gathered at the square in front of the parliament, they blocked all exits from the building, and tried to break through one of them.
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MisterStompy 3/8/2023 8:26 PM
Man who spraypainted "GROOMER" outside of a library and was given hate crime charges has just had his rapsheet upgraded for possession of child pornography. https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/library-vandalism-child-porn-charles-sutherland/65-e36e6a7f-5503-436d-8f8e-5f3c59b5e09f
Charles Sutherland faces at least seven charges of possessing child pornography, according to a charging document.
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Every. Fucking. Time.
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Worthless if they don't also provide residences and job placement for those people... it's not like they can go back to the communities they came from without facing violence.
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Every. Fucking. Time.
Not even hyperbole. This is fact.
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Not even hyperbole. This is fact.
MisterStompy 3/8/2023 8:34 PM
We need to fund an ad for TV that talks about these guys. Put it on FOX
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/8/2023 8:35 PM
My favorite argument to use against the "gays are groomers" crowd: "So by your own logic, we should also ban catholicism?"
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We need to fund an ad for TV that talks about these guys. Put it on FOX
Waste of money. About all they deserve is about a buck's worth of brass and lead.
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If these fucks just stopped showing up... and were found with a little pedobear pinned to their clothing... the message would be clear enough.
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Spinner is there anything worthwhile you wanna bring up? Just forming a network of allies to hide out won't be a successful long term investment
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Spinner is there anything worthwhile you wanna bring up? Just forming a network of allies to hide out won't be a successful long term investment
You got another plan to save lives when capitalism fails to provide basic needs to people? When militias start hijacking what few food trucks do make deliveries? Or is posting stickers enough?
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I can focus on one aspect... others gotta take up other projects... no one person can do what needs to be done. I can't even do what I want to see alone.
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Actually Yeah I do It's called getting involved into local politics and organizing a community garden
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I want half of these fucks to drop dead too, but I'm more then willing to lend a hand out for those who find the ability to challenge the bullshit they've been fed
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And one way to do that is to get involved in the local politics in your area
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Wanna know where a LOT of these fascist fucks come from? Schoolboards
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Actually Yeah I do It's called getting involved into local politics and organizing a community garden
What do you think a sustainable collective is? Mutual fucking aid. But... we differ on one thing. I don't see any way for local politics to be a source for change. ALL local governments are controlled by people who are on the take from their local business magnates.
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Getting "involved" in local politics is about as effective as begging Musk to abide by California Labor Laws.
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Wanna know where a LOT of these fascist fucks come from? Schoolboards
Yeah and school board candidates campaigns are funded by outside their districts. Who do you think is putting that money towards those candidates? (edited)
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The whole goddamned motherfucking system always has, and always fucking will be corrupted by capitalist influence. Top to bottom.
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And it's going to come crashing down because the one thing propping it up was a nearly universal sense of obligation to the community. That's been gone my entire 46 years of life or more... and what we're seeing now is the outcome. And it's only going to get worse.
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I say nearly... because at least in the 50s and early 60s politicians felt an obligation to some degree towards their working class white folks... they never had it for minorities.
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After Boomers started entering politics however... that nobles oblige died quick.
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The response I always get to pointing this out is... "Well what would you replace it with." Exactly what I'm trying to build. Autonomous federations of sustainable collectives which work together on larger projects. Starting with one... to show people the value of that kind of life. How it can provide their basic and even luxury needs better than the existing single family household consumerist/wage slave cycle.
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That's how culture changes... people individually see the benefit to them directly... and adopt it, and they tell others, and show others, who adopt it. (edited)
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Community Gardens are a part of that change, and I applaud you for working on them... because it also produces the same result. As would a mutual aid garage... or a mutual aid roadside assistance project... or a mutual aid primary care medical clinic.
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They are all valid means of pushing towards the same end goal.
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Yeah but here's the thing Still gotta interact with local politics to do so Need land to own, water, gates to prevent razing (that was a thing that happened in LA. Twice) and convince enough people "Hey dipshits, we need to grow our own food in case another chain disruption like Covid and inflation"
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Yeah but here's the thing Still gotta interact with local politics to do so Need land to own, water, gates to prevent razing (that was a thing that happened in LA. Twice) and convince enough people "Hey dipshits, we need to grow our own food in case another chain disruption like Covid and inflation"
I'll leave that to the people who can stomach talking to those two faced bribery ridden fucks.
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I know my strengths and weaknesses. I'm no superman who can be nice to every corrupt fucker on earth... I'll design and build things for people... I'll let other people do the public speaking that requires giving happy endings to rich assholes.
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I'll leave that to the people who can stomach talking to those two faced bribery ridden fucks.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/8/2023 8:58 PM
And if you don't, you get to taste the boots, batons, and bullets of law enforcement.
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I only don't like woke because it was co-opted from primarily talking about racial struggles in the US... now it's used WAY more to talk about other oppressed groups. Might be a net gain for everyone... but it is an example of white folks taking black community terms.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/8/2023 8:59 PM
Seriously, I hate politicians as much as you do, but sometimes you have find ways to work around problems in order to deal with them later.
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Seriously, I hate politicians as much as you do, but sometimes you have find ways to work around problems in order to deal with them later.
What I haven't said is that I'm a fucking genius at code loopholes.
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Minimum SqFt for housing in Costilla County Colorado is 630sqft (might be 615 I can't remember). What counts as a single construction building in the same county? A structure which shares a contiguous foundation and roof. I can thus build 10 independent 400 sqft rooms connected by a breezeway, and it counts as a single building in the code.
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Politicans make construction codes... NOT contractors or architects... they fuck up A LOT.
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I can build a residence for any number of people at 10% of the average cost, within code/zoning, in every county I've looked into except one. No begging the city council "Please mister my brother is the primary contractor for the county, can I please get a parcel rezoned to allow medium density residential using alternative construction methods thus fucking your brother and you out of a big payday?!" (edited)
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What I'm looking at currently is a company that makes 3d house printing machines. That also have a team of lawyers who will work to get the construction method approved in any County in the US you ask them to.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/8/2023 9:08 PM
And what makes you think these politicians will suddenly care about these laws in lieu of the other umpteen thousand they aren't caring about?
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And what makes you think these politicians will suddenly care about these laws in lieu of the other umpteen thousand they aren't caring about?
If it's in their zoning and code, if they violate it a judge can tell the local government to fuck off prohibiting it.
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MisterStompy 3/8/2023 9:09 PM
This is a leak of thousands of emails between the Alliance Defending Freedom, the American Principles Project, Liberty Counsel, WoLF, and other anti-trans groups detailing strategy and coordination on anti-trans bills with politicians and conversion therapists. Have at it.
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Have fun, kids.
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Yeah saw that... that's serious white hat work there... kudos to whomever stole it.
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Side note... if you do something within the LAW... code or zoning or whathaveyou... and a judge doesn't side with you... you prove the system is corrupt beyond the justification for its existence. The farmers outside of Colorado Springs for example... everything they have done is legal, but the entire system there is racist and corrupt. Therefore the system looses it's mandate for existence. (edited)
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We're supposed to be a nation based on the "rule of law"... when the system ignores the Law... it no longer has the right to retain authority.
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Assuming you grant that a state has the right to have authority in the first place. Which I do not.
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That said, I'm perfectly comfortable working within a just and fair law based state structure. Such a structure would not seek to impede any mutual aid or collectivist project I would seek to build. And the process of building and educating others on the benefits and processes of adopting those projects on their own, would invariably end up changing the way culture as a whole views them. A revolution of culture via individual minds and their feelings will produce a more lasting change than any change forced on others by an outside authority. Eventually over generations, the "state" would just be a figurehead... and eventually a few more generations and other states would be just figureheads... and eventually there would be no need for states at all.
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It is also a net benefit to the destruction of capitalism... because for every 20 people you remove from relying on for profit basic needs... you remove at least ~420,000 dollars from the revenue of those capitalist entities.
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Per year.
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If you get 5% of the population off reliance of capitalist basic needs... that's 336,000,000,000 of lost revenue to capitalists per year.
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One third of a trillion dollars 90% of which no longer going to wealthy fucks who sit on their ass and do nothing productive for society.
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Per year.
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Just in the US.
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Just 5 people out of every hundred who don't shop at supermarkets, or pay rent or mortgage, or buy electricity or heating oil/natural gas.
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Have fun, kids.
Time to spread this everywhere and to all the lawyers
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Especially NAACP
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Especially NAACP
Pretty sure they have downloaded the whole thing and paralegals are going over it with a fine toothed comb as we speak.
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Definitely
9:53 PM
Also God to be a fly on the wall of every gop fuck on that list
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There ain't no cup big enough for all the tears
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Also God to be a fly on the wall of every gop fuck on that list
I don't think the politicans care. Their lawyers however are probably drafting cancelation of association letters as we speak though.
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Well... their paralegals are.
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If they didn't care, then Paralegals wouldn't be involved
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These fucks are sweating bullets given not only did their game plan get exposed but given to everyone with a axe against them
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If they didn't care, then Paralegals wouldn't be involved
Exactly... when you absolutely need your legal letter to be forged in titanium... you have the paralegal do it.
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These fucks are sweating bullets given not only did their game plan get exposed but given to everyone with a axe against them
Honestly I don't believe they have enough "what if" capacity in their brain to sweat it. Yes I'm accusing them of being psychopaths.
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Their lawyers however... they are sweating it... because those firms are gonna lose clients like my mom lost weight when she got cancer.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/8/2023 9:57 PM
Damn, that metaphor got dark quick.
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Damn, that metaphor got dark quick.
Intended... intended to convey how serious I believe those law firms that represent those fucks are taking it... Because they also represent wealthy libs.
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And libs walk when given enough motivation to do so.
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Imagine a major law firm losing 50% of it's revenue in a month/
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/8/2023 11:57 PM
Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) was Caught On Tape arguing for Republicans to Cut Social Security and Medicare. in his 2012 race, Ron DeSantis said he supported privatizing Medicare and said we should do “the same thing” to
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These people want you to slave away for the system until you die.
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A system that has only ever benefitted the rich and powerful.
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This is me, playing devils advocate but they imagine a system where everyone is focused on making money all the time. Everyone has an entrepreneurial spirit. However, I don't want to dedicate my life to merely having nicer things or the accumulation of wealth. It seems rather pointless.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/9/2023 12:41 AM
that’s forgetting that this is probably because the companies in which those regulations are cut are rich as fuck and probably paid her out for it
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/9/2023 1:08 AM
Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell has tripped and fell at a hotel and was hospitalized, a spokesman for the senator says. https://t.co/Dc7h9ghT0L
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McConnell, 81, was attending a private dinner at a local hotel when he tripped. He was admitted to a hospital for treatment, spokesman Doug Andres said.
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FUCK
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but yes, seems the turtle had a fall
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very sus
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also, not suggesting anything, but Kentucky has a dem governor
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BubsyFanboy 3/9/2023 7:04 AM
The solution is to reinforce traditional values, including attending church, to help young people better distinguish between good and evil, he says.
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BubsyFanboy 3/9/2023 8:39 AM
https://fxtwitter.com/gromotapl/status/1633717602940747776 Today marks the 20-year anniversary since the Ultra-Capitalist Moustache Man said Poland will not join the EU and the EU will collapse.
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https://fxtwitter.com/gromotapl/status/1633717602940747776 Today marks the 20-year anniversary since the Ultra-Capitalist Moustache Man said Poland will not join the EU and the EU will collapse.
EU collapsing any day now
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TheAnonymousDew 3/9/2023 9:33 AM
Always projection with these people
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Today is the day of the lib/fasc meeting here in Belgium
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wish me luck lol, I printed some 54 belgian iron front cards, the socialist union said they would make a protest outside so i'll try having an effect
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AvoidOblivion 3/9/2023 10:13 AM
Good luck. Hopefully it goes well and you have a decent impact. Is the Socialist Union any decent?
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I dig up all the dirty shit the faf did during the last government they were in to ask the lib leader what he thinks of that, in front of his entire party lol
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Good luck. Hopefully it goes well and you have a decent impact. Is the Socialist Union any decent?
they're super cool
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remember the student strikes for climate? they helped us (we were an indenpendant organisation) print the posters
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same with the social christian union
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AvoidOblivion 3/9/2023 10:14 AM
That was nice of them to do.
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I think the social christian union will be protesting as well
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AvoidOblivion 3/9/2023 10:16 AM
If we see a rise in people joining from Belgium over the next few days, you'll know you reached some people. Even if not many join, you will still have had an impact, which is what matters. Even just a few minds reached is good.
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"we want, in a pacific but resolute manner, oppose their neoliberal and antisocial policies" "we do not see the point of this meeting which is not a debate since they share the same values of exclusion and contempt towards the unemployed, long-term disabled, migrants but also walloons"
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If we see a rise in people joining from Belgium over the next few days, you'll know you reached some people. Even if not many join, you will still have had an impact, which is what matters. Even just a few minds reached is good.
the cards I printed have a QR code with links to a link tree which goes towards a facebook page and insta page I set up with some friends, + the european iron front subreddit
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I think i'll print the photo of the far right politicians with the collaborator
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I think i'll print the photo of the far right politicians with the collaborator
AvoidOblivion 3/9/2023 10:19 AM
Do it.
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MisterStompy 3/9/2023 10:29 AM
at first I thought this was a pro American intervention post, "Democracy Empire" sounds like something everybody should like lmao
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at first I thought this was a pro American intervention post, "Democracy Empire" sounds like something everybody should like lmao
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MisterStompy 3/9/2023 10:31 AM
EMBRACE DEMOCRACY OR YOU WILL BE ERADICATED
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MisterStompy 3/9/2023 10:40 AM
By Trevor Hunnicutt and Kanishka Singh WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House said on Wednesday that Fox News anchor Tucker Carlson "is not credible," after the right-wing commentator showed footage from the Jan. 6, 2021, attacks on the U.S. Capitol that portrayed rioters as peaceful. "We agree with the chief of the Capitol Police and the wide r...
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/9/2023 10:41 AM
was he ever credible? Fox literally said in court that what he says is so outrageous that it shouldn’t be considered actual news
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No, but fox continues to sell him like he was. And that's the whole problem.
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at first I thought this was a pro American intervention post, "Democracy Empire" sounds like something everybody should like lmao
Are....are we making a liberal version of Rome here?
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Ahahahahahahahahahah
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I am at the lib fach debate
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It hasn't started yet
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There's a shitload of policemen
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They didn't let us go with the syndicalists
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"Uhhh go back inside"
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They were just calmly protesting outside
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But nahhhhh can't let the masses meet
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Syndicalists?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/9/2023 1:31 PM
anarcho-trade unionists
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H...how
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/9/2023 1:35 PM
don’t worry about it
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I am worrying immensely about it
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/9/2023 1:36 PM
Gun
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Are....are we making a liberal version of Rome here?
MisterStompy 3/9/2023 1:41 PM
I fucking wish that would rule tbh, They/Them centurions going around cancelling problematic barbarians.
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Well to be fair for the time Rome was pretty mixed
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I think people forget that Rome was a mix of white, African and middle eastern
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A LOT
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anarcho-trade unionists
Not anarchists
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Soc dem dem soc
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Bad translation in French we say syndicalists for all trade unionists sorry
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Aaaah
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That makes more sense
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They were protesting outside peacefully near the car entrante
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I think people forget that Rome was a mix of white, African and middle eastern
MisterStompy 3/9/2023 1:46 PM
I mean that's what happens when your empire stretches across continents. The Romans were (for the most part) smart enough to know that in order to avoid revolts you need to let conquered people keep their culture and shit. You're not vassal subjects, you're a CITIZEN OF ROMEtm.
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Me and my friend drove to the parking then went back to meet them
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Except German tribes
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But the police asked us to go back so I couldn't give the flyers
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I am surrounded by liberals ahhhhh
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It's honestly somewhat scary
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Except German tribes
MisterStompy 3/9/2023 1:47 PM
Well the German tribes weren't even united with each other 95% of the time. It was basically Rome's Afghanistan. Same thing with the Celts. It's not like the Celts were explicitly better at fighting the Romans than anybody else, it was just getting too expensive to stay in Scotland/Germany. (edited)
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The libs got so scared shitless they asked for police reinforcements lol
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Including cavalry
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For like 20-30 protesters
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So fucking scared
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MisterStompy 3/9/2023 1:55 PM
UPDATE TO THIS STORY: Lt. Governor Randy Mcnally has issued a statement blaming us for calling out his hypocrisy - but, importantly, not denying he's the one who made these comments, not claiming he was hacked, and not blaming an underling. You can watch our interview with Franklyn, the man in the p
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When was the last time a major GOP politician got outed for trying to bang a twink? Like 2009, right?
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We're playing the classics now, boys.
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AvoidOblivion 3/9/2023 1:57 PM
I was about to link the same article. Is it really all that shocking?
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I was about to link the same article. Is it really all that shocking?
MisterStompy 3/9/2023 1:58 PM
inb4 Randy McNally is completely heterosexual
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I guess I'll hand over my flyers at the uni instead
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Probably safer too
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AvoidOblivion 3/9/2023 1:59 PM
This is his PR team’s response. The classic “I was just talking to them!”
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Probably safer too
AvoidOblivion 3/9/2023 1:59 PM
That is a good idea. What about heading to the debate and asking a question about the fashie’s relationship with the collaborator?
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This is his PR team’s response. The classic “I was just talking to them!”
MisterStompy 3/9/2023 2:00 PM
>He has no intention of stopping. Fucking BASED talk your shit, king.
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You get that boywife, you deserve it buddy.
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That is a good idea. What about heading to the debate and asking a question about the fashie’s relationship with the collaborator?
That's what I'm doing
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I am not with the trade unionists I signed up for the actual debate to ask that question
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They're 30 min lates already tho and there's 300 ppl so idk if I'll get to ask it
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If not I'll ask in private with the lib leader
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Still, asking that type of question when you are surrounded by the liberal party is scary ahahah, but I'll turn my question in a way that's nice for them but also pressure them in admitting what they think of it
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AvoidOblivion 3/9/2023 2:03 PM
That is a good idea. The most important of all is your safety.
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wait....didn't TN just tried to make gay marriage illegal?
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how long til gay...relations (edited)
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minor correction for legal reasons
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/9/2023 3:58 PM
On Wednesday, the Michigan House voted to expand the Elliott-Larsen Civil Rights Act to include protections for LGBTQ people.
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K I'm still alive so far
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They were angry at my question lol
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Michigan is not fucking around
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Faf guy defended nazi guy but condemned collaboration
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/9/2023 3:59 PM
Meanwhile in West Virginia...
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Lib guy said I was brave to even ask the question but its better to discuss ideas than let them in their corner and complained far left wasn't treated the same
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Alright time to call West Virginia pedoland
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But Jesus fuck I hit them deep lol
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Also they both got applause
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I've got it recorded so I'll transcribe it later
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MisterStompy 3/9/2023 4:52 PM
Key takeaways: Americans trust Biden and Democrats more than Republicans on looking out for children and caring for children’s well-being. Top priorities for kids are safety from gun violence and learning what’s needed for success. Top school concerns are education quality, mental health, funding, and teacher pay. Democratic priorities on childcare and education, like affordable childcare, paid family and medical leave, and universal preschool are much more popular than Republican priorities, like banning critical race theory and restricting the rights of transgender students. https://navigatorresearch.org/americans-are-prioritizing-safety-and-quality-education-while-rejecting-book-bans-and-restricted-curriculums/
Americans want children to learn the things they need to in order to be successful in life; strongly oppose proposals to ban books and AP African American history
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Meanwhile in West Virginia...
The Republican-dominated House passed the bill 84-13, sending it to the state Senate. The regular session ends March 11. Currently, children can marry as young as 16 in West Virginia with parental consent. Anyone younger than that also must get a judge’s waiver. The bill would establish that 18 is the age of consent. It removes the ability of a minor to obtain consent through their parents, legal guardians, or by court petition. Existing legal marriages, including those done in other states, are unaffected.
The bill was killed by a 9-8 vote in a State Senate committee
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/9/2023 10:45 PM
Rep. George Santos (R-N.Y.) has been accused of orchestrating a credit card skimming operation in which he schemed to steal information from ATM and credit cards, according to a sworn statement fro…
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The evil of mankind has limits, it's stupidity does not.
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LMFAO
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AvoidOblivion 3/10/2023 12:03 AM
I fall under various schools of anarchist thoughts, due to my varying beliefs and ideals dependent on situations. One such I fall under, as I just learned of it, is eco-anarchism.
The main tendencies of green anarchism are: social ecology, which argues that environmental issues stem directly from social issues; deep ecology, which critiques anthropocentrism and advocates instead for biocentrism; and anarcho-primitivism, which advocates for the abolition of technology and civilization.[3]
I placed in bold the main area I agree with. Here is the article: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_anarchism
Green anarchism, also known as eco-anarchism, is an anarchist school of thought that puts a particular emphasis on ecology and environmental issues. A green anarchist theory is normally one that extends anarchism beyond a critique of human interactions and includes a critique of the interactions between humans and non-humans as well. Beyond huma...
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I fall under various schools of anarchist thoughts, due to my varying beliefs and ideals dependent on situations. One such I fall under, as I just learned of it, is eco-anarchism.
The main tendencies of green anarchism are: social ecology, which argues that environmental issues stem directly from social issues; deep ecology, which critiques anthropocentrism and advocates instead for biocentrism; and anarcho-primitivism, which advocates for the abolition of technology and civilization.[3]
I placed in bold the main area I agree with. Here is the article: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_anarchism
The main thing I disagree with regarding Anarcho-Primitivism (aka return to monkee) is that they focus on technology as a negative force, which I patently disagree with as hard and for the same reasons as those who want to remove guns. We can absolutely use technology to achieve bio-centric homeostasis.
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Otherwise I do advocate more ancient social models, considered "primitive" by most today.
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AvoidOblivion 3/10/2023 12:08 AM
A “perfect world,” if such a thing were possible, would be one where intelligent species such as humans do not exist. The tendencies of humans to becomr greedy, the constant lust for power and control, the complete lack of care present in many for the Earth which has given us life, is proof that it is not truly possible for a healthy planet to exist with intelligent beings living in societies upon it. Of course, there is no such thing as a perfect world. Advancements in intelligence and technology will always be made. That is why I also fall in the school of anarcho-communism. It would be best for us to live in small clusters, villages in a way, where we support each other and private ownership (but not personal property) does not exist. Money, and other forms of currency whose power comes from the mind, would be abolished.
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The main thing I disagree with regarding Anarcho-Primitivism (aka return to monkee) is that they focus on technology as a negative force, which I patently disagree with as hard and for the same reasons as those who want to remove guns. We can absolutely use technology to achieve bio-centric homeostasis.
AvoidOblivion 3/10/2023 12:09 AM
I completely understand your position. I have not learned enough about biocentric homeostasis to confidently talk about it, however. Though I do agree that removing guns is a terrible idea.
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A “perfect world,” if such a thing were possible, would be one where intelligent species such as humans do not exist. The tendencies of humans to becomr greedy, the constant lust for power and control, the complete lack of care present in many for the Earth which has given us life, is proof that it is not truly possible for a healthy planet to exist with intelligent beings living in societies upon it. Of course, there is no such thing as a perfect world. Advancements in intelligence and technology will always be made. That is why I also fall in the school of anarcho-communism. It would be best for us to live in small clusters, villages in a way, where we support each other and private ownership (but not personal property) does not exist. Money, and other forms of currency whose power comes from the mind, would be abolished.
I disagree with the assumptions in the first part. But could be relatively happy in an anarcho-communist world... that said... none of that is going to come overnight. All we can do now is work locally to inspire others (by demonstrated shared success) to adopt more egalitarian means of social structures.
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I completely understand your position. I have not learned enough about biocentric homeostasis to confidently talk about it, however. Though I do agree that removing guns is a terrible idea.
We're swiftly moving technologically to the point where true High Energy Physics is possible. We've already proven that matter can be altered through high energy physics, we've proven matter can be transported instantly through high energy physics. Which means we're really a few technological breakthroughs from things like matter replicators and teleportation.
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I disagree with the assumptions in the first part. But could be relatively happy in an anarcho-communist world... that said... none of that is going to come overnight. All we can do now is work locally to inspire others (by demonstrated shared success) to adopt more egalitarian means of social structures.
AvoidOblivion 3/10/2023 12:11 AM
That is very true. We must make do with the time we are given. I have accepted that the world I desire will not come to exist in my time in this body, save for extremely extreme circumstances. I
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Maybe not of living matter... but certainly of inorganic matter.
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AvoidOblivion 3/10/2023 12:13 AM
Inorganic matter, potentially. I will never willingly teleport myself. No matter how it is done, it is in essence annihilating your body, molecule by molecule, and rebuilding it. You are killed, and a clone is created. The clone thinks it is you, but you are dead. No thanks.
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Inorganic matter, potentially. I will never willingly teleport myself. No matter how it is done, it is in essence annihilating your body, molecule by molecule, and rebuilding it. You are killed, and a clone is created. The clone thinks it is you, but you are dead. No thanks.
That's why I put that caveat on it... we're a ways off from dealing with that ethical dilemma. But Cobalt from Carbon... totally doable.
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Lithium from Hydrogen... yup.
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Of course the tech advancement necessary to get there would make batteries obsolete... because Fusion.
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Mother Earth will survive our climate change even if we do not. The question in my mind is... What do we do now to ensure that people survive our own idiocy? I don't see capitalists doing what is necessary to save anyone but themselves in the coming climate changes... they certainly aren't putting money towards what we know will need to be done to mitigate the effects for everyone.
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AvoidOblivion 3/10/2023 12:17 AM
Developing safe fusion batteries would be a massive step forward. (edited)
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So if they are the only ones doing anything... the vast majority of people will be left to die of the crisis they created.
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AvoidOblivion 3/10/2023 12:18 AM
Indeed.
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Developing safe fusion batteries would be a massive step forward. (edited)
Totally... but we're about 100 years from that. 90% of the population will die in 50 if we don't do something.
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That's why I promote what I promote, and work towards building what I want built... if we can get even an equal number of people to survive as the wealthy and their direct lacky's... we have a shot at pushing culture towards a more egalitarian world coming out the other side of climate change.
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AvoidOblivion 3/10/2023 12:20 AM
I have always had trouble talking about the climate crisis without sounding depressing or pessimistic. But yes. Most will die far too soon if we fail to act. Major changes need to be made internationally, involving every single corporation that has a hand in manufacturing, disposal, transport, or really anything else.
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I have always had trouble talking about the climate crisis without sounding depressing or pessimistic. But yes. Most will die far too soon if we fail to act. Major changes need to be made internationally, involving every single corporation that has a hand in manufacturing, disposal, transport, or really anything else.
The second worst day of my life was when I read the conservative climate projections in detail from NOAA.
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Like not even their median effect projections... the most positive ones.
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50% of the US Population facing food shortages by 2040, loss of at least 50% of US population to starvation alone by 2050.
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Heat related deaths skyrocket exponentially from 2030 on.
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AvoidOblivion 3/10/2023 12:23 AM
For me, that’s just a monthly update. It has not been too shocking or jarring to hear as it has been all I have heard. Seeing my favorite animals slowly die out, watching massive amounts of land be turned to monocultures through slash-and-burn clearing, hearing of once-in-a-lifetime disasters happening several times a year? That’s life for the Gen Z who pay attention.
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That's not even factoring chaos that occurs when people start starving.
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For me, that’s just a monthly update. It has not been too shocking or jarring to hear as it has been all I have heard. Seeing my favorite animals slowly die out, watching massive amounts of land be turned to monocultures through slash-and-burn clearing, hearing of once-in-a-lifetime disasters happening several times a year? That’s life for the Gen Z who pay attention.
AvoidOblivion 3/10/2023 12:24 AM
My heart goes out to Gen Alpha. They will know less and see worse. They can do nothing about it.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/10/2023 12:24 AM
And even then, people will not come to anti-capitalism. They will rally around rich “philanthropists” who make huge food warehouses and create their own fiefdom.
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For me, that’s just a monthly update. It has not been too shocking or jarring to hear as it has been all I have heard. Seeing my favorite animals slowly die out, watching massive amounts of land be turned to monocultures through slash-and-burn clearing, hearing of once-in-a-lifetime disasters happening several times a year? That’s life for the Gen Z who pay attention.
For GenX that's just another day.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
And even then, people will not come to anti-capitalism. They will rally around rich “philanthropists” who make huge food warehouses and create their own fiefdom.
Not doing what they are doing right now... most of them will be stuck with at best 20-50 people around them as servants.
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My heart goes out to Gen Alpha. They will know less and see worse. They can do nothing about it.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/10/2023 12:25 AM
Those kids scare me. In the way that I don’t think they truly know what’s going on.
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Gen Z was given a wake-up call, for those kids it’s just a fact of life.
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Saudi Arabia is doing the most for their upper crust... they will have about a million people in a religious fascist utopia wall city.
12:26 AM
Basically a terrarium writ large.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Those kids scare me. In the way that I don’t think they truly know what’s going on.
AvoidOblivion 3/10/2023 12:26 AM
I don’t think they do, either. The oldest are still so young.
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Saudi Arabia is doing the most for their upper crust... they will have about a million people in a religious fascist utopia wall city.
AvoidOblivion 3/10/2023 12:26 AM
I heard about that. It is nothing but a terrible idea.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/10/2023 12:26 AM
Ehh, we’re kind of the last year of Gen Zers I think
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I don’t think they do, either. The oldest are still so young.
It all depends on their parents... sadly.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/10/2023 12:27 AM
I can see a significant cultural difference in the lower class men in my school for sure
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Ehh, we’re kind of the last year of Gen Zers I think
AvoidOblivion 3/10/2023 12:28 AM
Various sources put Gen Z as ending around 2010 or 2015. I recognize a large difference between a child born in 2010 and one born in 2015, so there is definitely a sub-generation, I think. I agree most with the 2015 end point, which makes the oldest 8.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/10/2023 12:28 AM
By the time the kids of our generation grow to maturity it will be too late for them to do anything but brace for impact IMO
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Various sources put Gen Z as ending around 2010 or 2015. I recognize a large difference between a child born in 2010 and one born in 2015, so there is definitely a sub-generation, I think. I agree most with the 2015 end point, which makes the oldest 8.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/10/2023 12:29 AM
ahh, fair
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I heard about that. It is nothing but a terrible idea.
I give it 10 years once they close the doors before it burns down... once wealthy businessmen becoming basically maintenance techs to serve the Royal Family by keeping their AI running.
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It can't last.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
By the time the kids of our generation grow to maturity it will be too late for them to do anything but brace for impact IMO
AvoidOblivion 3/10/2023 12:29 AM
That is true as well. Being an ‘04 kid myself, I’m right at that point where I am just a bit too late to do anything major but early enough that I have a little time to do something.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/10/2023 12:30 AM
It’s never too late, my friend
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It can't last.
AvoidOblivion 3/10/2023 12:30 AM
It won’t last.
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That is true as well. Being an ‘04 kid myself, I’m right at that point where I am just a bit too late to do anything major but early enough that I have a little time to do something.
You've got to be kidding me. I want people like you and Flop beside me helping me build these sustainable collectives.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/10/2023 12:30 AM
To quote Zach de la Rocha; It has to start somewhere, it has to start some time. What better place than here, what better time than now?
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
It’s never too late, my friend
AvoidOblivion 3/10/2023 12:31 AM
Never too late… until the point there are no humans remaining.
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People like you two are the only way these things will get built... I'm WAY too old to muster the passion to do it all by myself. (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/10/2023 12:31 AM
And we are at the perfect points in our lives to fight like fucking hell to keep those people alive.
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And we are at the perfect points in our lives to fight like fucking hell to keep those people alive.
Absolutely true as well.
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AvoidOblivion 3/10/2023 12:32 AM
To share a great quote from a not-so-great man: “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It’s not.”
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Saying nothing of the physical labor demands it will take that will leave me unable to walk by 60.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
And we are at the perfect points in our lives to fight like fucking hell to keep those people alive.
AvoidOblivion 3/10/2023 12:33 AM
That fight takes courage, ambition, and a willingness to step out of one’s comfort zone. I have the ambition, but am lacking in courage and willingness to leave comfort.
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I'm already pushing myself WAY beyond my capacity to function in older age... my knees will be completely gone in 5-10 years if I'm lucky. My shoulders are both on their way out.
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I'm already pushing myself WAY beyond my capacity to function in older age... my knees will be completely gone in 5-10 years if I'm lucky. My shoulders are both on their way out.
AvoidOblivion 3/10/2023 12:34 AM
Aging is a bitch. I may be 18, but I already have back, knee, ankle, elbow, shoulder, and wrist problems due to some very strange issues with my joints and years of poor exercise and a poor diet.
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That fight takes courage, ambition, and a willingness to step out of one’s comfort zone. I have the ambition, but am lacking in courage and willingness to leave comfort.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/10/2023 12:34 AM
And that’s okay; it all takes time. For me, I just don’t know where to start. Putting up stickers and going to protests is great, but there has to be something more. I’ve gotten some hints but I need a network for that idea. All comes with time, I guess.
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That fight takes courage, ambition, and a willingness to step out of one’s comfort zone. I have the ambition, but am lacking in courage and willingness to leave comfort.
Not everyone needs to pick up a gun to fight. And the sustainable collectives might be rough the first couple years... but for 250k I can build a fucking paradise for 20 people... every common luxury you have today and more.
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Aging is a bitch. I may be 18, but I already have back, knee, ankle, elbow, shoulder, and wrist problems due to some very strange issues with my joints and years of poor exercise and a poor diet.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/10/2023 12:35 AM
Wanna be body doubles to keep each other on track to start exercising? I know as hell I need to start on it.
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Aging is a bitch. I may be 18, but I already have back, knee, ankle, elbow, shoulder, and wrist problems due to some very strange issues with my joints and years of poor exercise and a poor diet.
AvoidOblivion 3/10/2023 12:35 AM
I also left out toes and fingers.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Wanna be body doubles to keep each other on track to start exercising? I know as hell I need to start on it.
AvoidOblivion 3/10/2023 12:36 AM
I do 30 push ups a night and am looking to increase it to 35 per night soon. If I remember, I also do 20 squats and 15 crunches. It isn’t much, but it’s something. I do need to get to the gym more often.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/10/2023 12:36 AM
By the way Oblivion; it’s pretty late over there, you should get some sleep.
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I even have a design for a bathhouse dome that is a waterpark writ small.
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I do 30 push ups a night and am looking to increase it to 35 per night soon. If I remember, I also do 20 squats and 15 crunches. It isn’t much, but it’s something. I do need to get to the gym more often.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/10/2023 12:36 AM
fuck it, i’ll go try and knock those out right now. gotta start somewhere
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I even have a design for a bathhouse dome that is a waterpark writ small.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/10/2023 12:36 AM
we going back to ancient greece? lmao
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
By the way Oblivion; it’s pretty late over there, you should get some sleep.
AvoidOblivion 3/10/2023 12:36 AM
I should. Stress is keeping me up, brought me to research different schools of anarchism, then here.
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I even have a design for a bathhouse dome that is a waterpark writ small.
AvoidOblivion 3/10/2023 12:37 AM
That sounds… cool?
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
we going back to ancient greece? lmao
Imagine a 20' diameter half circle jacuzzi with a hot waterfall and a small slide. With four private shower/baths behind them.
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AvoidOblivion 3/10/2023 12:38 AM
Well that’s certainly something.
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You want comfort... I've designed it... Head to breakfast from your private dome house through a greenhouse tunnel and pick your strawberries and grapes on the way.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
By the way Oblivion; it’s pretty late over there, you should get some sleep.
AvoidOblivion 3/10/2023 12:39 AM
Alright. I will finish my nightly workout, which includes a few minutes of yoga for relaxation and flexibility, then go off to sleep. I won’t be on much tomorrow, then won’t be on at all.
12:40 AM
I will notify you when I return. Expect mid to late March. I won’t leave the server or anything, though.
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Take care of yourself @AvoidOblivion
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We'll be here.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/10/2023 12:41 AM
Best of luck to you, my friend. (edited)
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AvoidOblivion 3/10/2023 12:44 AM
For reference: my knees when squatting.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/10/2023 12:56 AM
crispy
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yeap my body doesn’t like the fact that i actually did a dedicated workout sesh for the first time in 3 years lmao
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12:58 AM
i could try and push past 30 push-ups and crunches but my legs chose to threaten my family if i went any further
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BubsyFanboy 3/10/2023 6:13 AM
This kind of attitude towards Russia's opposition pisses me off
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All it takes is the smallest controversy and everyone's jimmies are rustled and they demand Russia to be broken up
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News flash: the tiny siberian nations you want to see would not survive on their own
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And no - Russia's hard opposition does exist and there are most of them are non-imperialist democrats
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But no, let's generalize all of Russia and call for destroying the country.
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BubsyFanboy 3/10/2023 7:55 AM
The tragic death of an opposition MP's 15-year-old son has in the past few days become a matter of great public concern in Poland. In an open protest call, some 200 journalists urge their fellow colleagues not to accept invitations from state-controlled media until the circumstances are clarified.
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Together, Amazon and One Medical will help more people get better care, when and how they need it. For a limited time, One Medical membership is available to new U.S. customers for $144 (28% discount) for the first year—the equivalent of only $12 per month
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I don't trust like that
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/10/2023 5:01 PM
Fun fact: Amazon has a habit of trying to forbid ambulance crews from their warehouses because they’re afraid that heart monitors could somehow collect information about the inside (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/10/2023 5:28 PM
In the first lawsuit of its kind since Roe v. Wade was overturned, a husband seeks damages from women who allegedly helped his ex-wife obtain the medications to terminate her pregnancy.
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More than two dozen Republicans on the House Oversight and Accountability Committee have refused to join Democrats in signing a letter denouncing white supremacy.  Earlier this week, ranking m…
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/10/2023 11:26 PM
Holy shit, guns got drawn at a Sacramento rally earlier today
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/10/2023 11:33 PM
Source?
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With the Republican-run state in disarray, polls suggest Brandon Presley has a real shot at defeating Governor Tate Reeves this year.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/11/2023 12:24 AM
does he want a little less conversation and a little more action?
12:24 AM
wait that's actually a good campaign slogan wtf
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Source?
floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/11/2023 1:43 AM
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AIF Cuirassier regiment
does he want a little less conversation and a little more action?
1:57 AM
WRITE THAT DOWN
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/11/2023 1:58 AM
Fuck me. And she went right back to the cops without being busted.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/11/2023 2:06 AM
West Virginia’s Republican supermajority Senate followed a growing national trend of GOP opposition to health care for transgender youth by passing a bill that would ban certain treatments and therapies, while approving a significant change to add exce...
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wait that's actually a good campaign slogan wtf
It's also one of the most cringe songs in rock history. "Don't procrastinate, don't articulate Girl, it's getting late, gettin' upset waitin' around A little less conversation, a little more action, please All this aggravation ain't satisfactioning me A little more bite and a little less bark A little less fight and a little more spark Close your mouth and open up your heart and, baby, satisfy me (Satisfy me) Satisfy me baby (satisfy me)"
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Lame
10:45 AM
TFW I agree with Clarence Thomas
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TheAnonymousDew 3/11/2023 12:01 PM
The Democratic Party needs more Trump esque populists
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Nah. We need more for the people typed but far smarter then Trump
12:55 PM
And ya know
12:56 PM
Not a racist dick
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/11/2023 1:35 PM
yep
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He's really going for it.
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It's actually a right wing tactic
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Something about fornication causes young cis white men to calm the fuck down. Meaning George Constanza on Seinfeld had a bit of a point
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The Democratic Party needs more Trump esque populists
Black Magic 3/11/2023 7:04 PM
We need more teddys
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History nerd here: Teddy was a Republican (although after term #2 he tried to run as a third party) (edited)
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although he was a progressive Republican
7:12 PM
Is the Lincoln Project the only major liberal Republican organization to exist nowadays?
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further history: Once upon a time, Republicans were once the socially conscious ones
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Despite still being pro-business, they believed that women should have the right to vote, black should be allowed to achieve the American dream and generally the belief that people should not terrorize people on basis of ethnicity or color (edited)
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[Bleep] you Nixon and [bleep] you Reagen
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However, they forgot a important lesson of their religious inspiration:
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Blessed are old people who plant trees knowing that they shall never sit in the shade of their foliage.
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Black Magic 3/11/2023 7:32 PM
Teddy is big dick progressive energy
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My bet is that AOC will eventually be remembered as our FDR
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if she lives past the likely troubles comes up
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Guys he's not gay he's actually a born again progressive, for real
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he gay
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MisterStompy 3/11/2023 7:44 PM
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only if your a bigot about it
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especially a hypocritical bigot (edited)
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Black Magic 3/11/2023 8:13 PM
I asked Midjourney to show me Teddy running for president in 2024
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you're welcome.
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" Vote for Teddy, or HE WILL FIND YOU."
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Amazing
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Black Magic 3/11/2023 8:24 PM
Teddy memes are gonna be my thing for a while now
8:24 PM
I'm on a kick
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Black Magic 3/11/2023 8:36 PM
Alg-gen art might be one of the most complicated subjects in the world.
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On one hand, it is impossible to un-make a tool once it has been made. And regulation is needed, but also... regulation is garunteed to favor the multi-billion dollar IP holders, and also be pretty much unenforceable in real terms. Just like their efforts to get rid of P2P file sharing.
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The ethics are complicated.
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Black Magic
" Vote for Teddy, or HE WILL FIND YOU."
AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/11/2023 8:40 PM
Teddy roosevelt is the only gringo that can convince me to sing the star spangled banner
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Black Magic 3/11/2023 8:41 PM
FDR was dope too. Kennedy was both great and terrible. There's a few.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/11/2023 8:41 PM
Yes
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Black Magic 3/11/2023 8:43 PM
anyone that takes a bullet and keeps talking, is the real deal.
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' fuck you too buddy, where was I?'
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Black Magic 3/11/2023 9:20 PM
Also! My attitude towards the newsof bank failures is kind of
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" Well that's nice"
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Nah. We need more for the people typed but far smarter then Trump
TheAnonymousDew 3/11/2023 10:11 PM
I meant as in Trump like populists as far as fiery rhetoric
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On one hand, it is impossible to un-make a tool once it has been made. And regulation is needed, but also... regulation is garunteed to favor the multi-billion dollar IP holders, and also be pretty much unenforceable in real terms. Just like their efforts to get rid of P2P file sharing.
The problem with A.I. art and it's a rare case where both the little guy and corpos have a issue with, is AI art does not create images, it steals parts of other artworks and rather crudely posts them with other stolen art assets (edited)
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I'm trying to get into my school's animation department and quite a few of them are part of animators unions and animator unions are very keen on cracking down on A.i. art
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Animator unions have also making reaches into game development and its why these development teams are suddenly unionizing left and right
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It's believed the explosion of A.I. art is particularly cause game development ceo/shareholders/nft cryptobro types/ publishers are pissed that artists are demanding fair pay for their work
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It be one thing if it used public domain images and designs (edited)
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But it steals art from other artists
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I asked Midjourney to show me Teddy running for president in 2024
Woodrow wilson is worse then Teddy
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I have no idea where he is getting this from but its not true. Also there is nothing wrong with Feminism it has given women more rights. Also the Sexual Revolution isn't "Anything that is sexual is good" Pedophilia and beastophilia are wrong and always have been and liberals are not asking for those people to join the LGBT. Also Homosexual has not weaken families Heterosexual families still exist are not going anywhere. Gay people should not be forced into marriage that they don't want and should be given the same rights has Heterosexuals. Also none of this is based on logic and all of it is based on just unjustified hatred towards the LGBT. (edited)
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Woodrow wilson is worse then Teddy
AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/11/2023 10:37 PM
"Getting shot in the dick is worse than getting hugged"
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"Getting shot in the dick is worse than getting hugged"
Woodrow Wilson Supported the KKK (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/11/2023 10:38 PM
yeah no shit
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bro was so racist people back then told him to chill out
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/11/2023 10:38 PM
In fairness, Teddy Roosevelt also stole credit from the Buffalo Soldiers at San Juan Hill.
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They did most of the heavy lifting.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/11/2023 10:39 PM
idk man, that vs super racism? i think I know who I'm picking
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/11/2023 10:39 PM
True. I'm just saying he wasn't perfect.
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but like Theodore Roosevelt had dinner with a black man and was less racist.
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but i still dislike Theodore Roosevelt since he was imperialist.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/11/2023 10:41 PM
he got shit done
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shame wilson won
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I think Modern America would be better if Woodrow Wilson never became president. And Theodore Roosevelt won.
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In fairness, Teddy Roosevelt also stole credit from the Buffalo Soldiers at San Juan Hill.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/11/2023 10:49 PM
he was also a gi-fucking-gantic imperialist
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/11/2023 10:53 PM
That too.
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I think Modern America would be better if Woodrow Wilson never became president. And Theodore Roosevelt won.
I argue the bane of America was fucking Reagan winning through what I suspect was some very backhanded tactics
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I argue the bane of America was fucking Reagan winning through what I suspect was some very backhanded tactics
AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/11/2023 10:58 PM
I'm more in the woodrow wilson is the fucking devil crowd
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although reagan is very bad too
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Reagan was such a greedy cheap fuck that he basically facilitated a genocide attempt against queer folk
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/11/2023 10:59 PM
my brother in christ Woodrow Wilson set back racial tensions so far back its fucking unreal
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like, HOW DO YOU ACHIEVE SUCH RACISM
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also he had his thumb up his ass in ww1
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up until zimmerman
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Reagan aided and abetted terrorist actions including the whole cluster fuck that was Iran-contra, intentionally took the drugs from Iran-contra and intentionally dumped them in black neighborhoods to break them, let the right wing religious fucks take control, let AIDS spread, and allowed the war criminal Henry Kissinger to exist repeatingly with full knowledge with what he was doing. (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/11/2023 11:02 PM
Woodrow wilson gave ground to the KKK
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like, bro was openly supporting them
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he was so racist people back then were telling him to chill the fuck out
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sometimes you ever just wanna go back in time and assasinate a candidate for president of the united states?
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in minecraft of course
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/11/2023 11:11 PM
Can we just agree they're both total shitheels who set America back years with racism and underhanded tactics? (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/11/2023 11:11 PM
duh
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if you can't tell, my absolute hatred for Wilson runs deep
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When LGBTQ Floridians, their families and their supporters arrive in the state capital to start two days of what organizers are calling pride, passion and resistance, they’re more likely to encounter a brick wall of opposition than a welcome mat and an open door.
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ey yo, any floridians with firearms?
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ya'll might be wanted
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/11/2023 11:42 PM
@Florida
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not criminally
11:45 PM
john brown style wanted
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Black Magic 3/12/2023 12:01 AM
Hm.
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The organizers of that event would need to ask for an escort for it to be legit. An unannounced armed guard might not go over well.
12:09 AM
When the B license comes through, I'd be happy to start coordinating with any groups that feel threatened by extremists. at that point I will be licensed,insured and legit. (edited)
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My bet is that AOC will eventually be remembered as our FDR
REALLY wishful thinking. AOC hasn't done anything yet to prove she's more than a progressive mouthpiece who votes centrist. And the longer she stays in Congress the more likely it is statistically that she will be nothing more radical than Bill Clinton.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/12/2023 1:24 AM
I never really paid AOC much mind as anything else honestly.
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REALLY wishful thinking. AOC hasn't done anything yet to prove she's more than a progressive mouthpiece who votes centrist. And the longer she stays in Congress the more likely it is statistically that she will be nothing more radical than Bill Clinton.
bruh, they said the same shit about fdr. Never count your chickens before they hatch
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it goes both ways
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bruh, they said the same shit about fdr. Never count your chickens before they hatch
Yo the dude who locked up Japanese Americans who died in droves due to malnutrition and improper healthcare or basic needs like insulation or heating? Despite his wife literally screaming at him publicly to not do it?
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Just checking if we're talking about the same dude in glasses with a cane here.
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And then later wheelchair.
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Yo the dude who locked up Japanese Americans who died in droves due to malnutrition and improper healthcare or basic needs like insulation or heating? Despite his wife literally screaming at him publicly to not do it?
And also created social security. And most anti-monopoly laws, letting the ground work for unions and worker rights to flourish sides, You literally call yourself an anarchist. You wanna know what the father of anarchist thought said about minorities? Worse then FDR
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all founders are rotten
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/12/2023 1:31 AM
Pierre-Joseph Proudhon (UK: , US: , French: [pjɛʁ ʒɔzɛf pʁudɔ̃]; 15 January 1809, Besançon – 19 January 1865, Paris) is considered by many to be the "father of anarchism". His background was as a French socialist, politician, philosopher, economist and the founder of mutualist philosophy. He was the first person to declare himself an anarchist, ...
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and sure as fuck a good start
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/12/2023 1:32 AM
Dude was a borderline christofascist.
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And a massive misogynist.
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You can't call everyone else a piece of shit while acting like your founder is perfect, you dickhead. (edited)
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Noone is perfect.
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It's called being human.
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Think of that the next time you try to hop on your high horse, you pompous doomer.
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And also created social security. And most anti-monopoly laws, letting the ground work for unions and worker rights to flourish sides, You literally call yourself an anarchist. You wanna know what the father of anarchist thought said about minorities? Worse then FDR
Have you ever seen me quote Proudhon, or literally any member of the Paris Commune? No. Because all of them were fucked one way or another and basically not applicable in any way shape or form. Also I call myself a Free Socialist, other people think of that as Anarchism. My beliefs are based on people who actually did shit to further the process of social evolution towards the natural state of human existence... that of social and economic egalitarianism. Which has been hominids state of organization for about 9 million years.
1:36 AM
I fully acknowledge the ethnocentrism of the members of the Paris commune as well as their flawed idealizing of Lewis Henry Morgan, and their belief in social darwinism.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/12/2023 1:36 AM
Oh look, you're suddenly not an anarchist when it's convenient to you.
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Oh look, you're suddenly not an anarchist when it's convenient to you.
Are you intending to engage with me in a hostile manner? Because we can fucking go there. What the fuck did I do to piss in your cheerios? Frankly I thought we were good.
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My point here
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is all founders and people to aspire to, can and often are, rotten
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that doesn't mean their virtues aren't worth pursuing
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is all founders and people to aspire to, can and often are, rotten
Agreed, which is why I don't support the great man syndrome of any kind.
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no that's just being basically knowing basic history
1:41 AM
great man syndrome is how libertarians see history, not the actual grit and detail to get there. No man's a island and no nation is truly self sufficient
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no that's just being basically knowing basic history
If you hold up someone as a pinnacle of an ideology, and don't point out their flaws, you create a false narrative. FDR is someone who needs to be remembered not just for the good, but also for the absolutely horrific.
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Are you intending to engage with me in a hostile manner? Because we can fucking go there. What the fuck did I do to piss in your cheerios? Frankly I thought we were good.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/12/2023 1:42 AM
I WANT to be good, but with you being such a cynic towards literally everyone and every thing that isn't your brand of anarchism/free socialism/etc. , it's very difficult.
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I WANT to be good, but with you being such a cynic towards literally everyone and every thing that isn't your brand of anarchism/free socialism/etc. , it's very difficult.
You can feel like I'm a cynic towards everyone and everything. But it's hyperbole I assure you to characterize me that way. There are people who live the values they preach. I adore them. But they usually aren't popular figures... rare exceptions being exceptions.
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FDR wasn't an exception.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/12/2023 1:44 AM
Let’s not forget everyone here is probably quite a bit tired; near midnight for all of us. Our brains aren’t gonna be saying things in the most eloquent manner.
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FDR was a man who was wise to read the labor movement writing on the wall... Particularly since labor issues were at a state even more critical than they were when McKinley was assassinated. (edited)
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He was faced with a choice, let the country tear itself apart in yet another civil war, or side with labor which would benefit the most people and diffuse some of the tension.
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He still didn't go far enough... and more or less every thing he did has been undone since.
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Let’s not forget everyone here is probably quite a bit tired; near midnight for all of us. Our brains aren’t gonna be saying things in the most eloquent manner.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/12/2023 1:50 AM
Admittedly, I'm also still a little hurt that my hair cutter who I've known since I was a child asked me if I was a "confrontational person" because only people who get into confrontations own guns. It's... not a good feeling when someone you've known for a long time basically says they now think you're a violent person.
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Admittedly, I'm also still a little hurt that my hair cutter who I've known since I was a child asked me if I was a "confrontational person" because only people who get into confrontations own guns. It's... not a good feeling when someone you've known for a long time basically says they now think you're a violent person.
Ouch, that sucks.
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He was faced with a choice, let the country tear itself apart in yet another civil war, or side with labor which would benefit the most people and diffuse some of the tension.
you're also forgetting FDR and the conservative supreme court at the time hated each other's guts AND he also had some very understandable beef over the Business plot
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you're also forgetting FDR and the conservative supreme court at the time hated each other's guts AND he also had some very understandable beef over the Business plot
Very good point. Though I can't really nail down how much of his opposition to robber barons was practical or personal because of Butler's testimony.
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both
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historically both
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I mean sure, but I don't know enough to quantify actions to one or the other.
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FDR was old money himself but he WAS a cripple in a era where people were trying to kill cripples for just existing
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FDR was old money himself but he WAS a cripple in a era where people were trying to kill cripples for just existing
He was actually older money than some of the robber barons at the time IIRC. Must have irked him more than a little.
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while I can't speak for him, I can still make good estimates
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Back at a time when the number of generations of wealth really mattered. Certainly a lot more than now. (edited)
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while I can't speak for him, I can still make good estimates
I'd ask Elenore before him about what caused what. I think she was far more in tune with his motivations than he was.
6:27 AM
Wtf
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Armenian news site Lurer reports that Azerbaijan has accumulated a large number of troops and military equipment on the Artsakh/Nagorno-Karabakh border with Azerbaijan. Bayraktar drones have reportedly also been brought near the border
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9:18 AM
i love capitalism
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Gringos ☕
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In Iowa, legislative proposals would allow children at least 15 years old to sell alcohol and children at least 14 years old to work specific jobs in meatpacking plants. The Iowa bill would also protect companies from liability if a child got sick or injured or died while at work.
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Law weakens state’s oversight of child labor and represents latest attempt in mostly Republican-led states to ease regulations
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the whole thing is insane
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even in blue states lol
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even in blue states lol
WHAT
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Antifa
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minnesota + bipartisan support in ohio
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TheAnonymousDew 3/12/2023 10:31 AM
Biggest mistake FDR ever made was not pushing for labor reform in Constitutional amendments
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/12/2023 1:14 PM
Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.) is announcing that she’ll soon be “a 36-year-old grandmother,” while praising “rural conservative communities” that “value life.” The Colorado Republican revealed that…
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Ew.
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Biggest mistake FDR ever made was not pushing for labor reform in Constitutional amendments
Blame the supreme court, Dude wanted to, but he and the Supreme court were at each other's throats. Fuck they tried to repeal Social Security but Hoover (the fbi head, not the president) may or may not have threatened to kill the supreme court if they even looked at cases to try to repeal it.
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WILMINGTON, Del. (AP) — Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen said Sunday that the federal government would not bail out Silicon Valley Bank , but is working to help depositors who are concerned about their money .
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/12/2023 1:29 PM
fuck yeah
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Suffer the consequences of your actions
1:33 PM
that said, given there's rumor of some insider trading causing this mess, how hard would it be to buy a couple of key stock parts of the bank and just sit on them?
1:34 PM
Rumor is, Peter Thiel was the one who intentionally started the run to buy its assets up...
1:40 PM
I want to A,) see how long I can fuck with Wall street fucks and B.) This group needs money to enforce economic and physical needs for communal support
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Rumor is, Peter Thiel was the one who intentionally started the run to buy its assets up...
TheAnonymousDew 3/12/2023 4:38 PM
Peter Thiel needs to be federally charged if true
4:39 PM
That's a pump and dump
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yyuuup
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TheAnonymousDew 3/12/2023 4:52 PM
These RW billionaires think they are above the law, time to send these fuckers crashing down to Earth
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tbh the bank runs might be doing most of that
5:27 PM
ditto Yellen being no at the bank
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TheAnonymousDew 3/12/2023 7:15 PM
No I mean they'll do it elsewhere
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Unless we draw a line in the sand
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Black Magic 3/12/2023 7:29 PM
Yellen says no bail out, means they are relatively confident that contagion will be limited
7:30 PM
so the fed isn't currently worried about Capital one imploding, or the like.
7:31 PM
But there is definitely more bad news to come from groups like Vangaurd, Black rock/stone , and investment funds like Charles Shcwabb
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Black Magic 3/12/2023 7:32 PM
There's a really simple Demographics thing here. It's easier to raise kids in rural environments. On a farm, kids are free labor. In a city, kids are very expensive pets.
7:33 PM
The balance between rural and city areas is a boon
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/12/2023 7:38 PM
if blackstone goes under i will be so happy
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Black Magic 3/12/2023 7:44 PM
indeed
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There's a really simple Demographics thing here. It's easier to raise kids in rural environments. On a farm, kids are free labor. In a city, kids are very expensive pets.
That used to be the case, but insurance and medical bills alone made having kids expensive
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Mom used to work in insurance Kids were a absolutely expense
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Black Magic 3/12/2023 7:50 PM
it's true that the rural areas are also being impacted by poor medical care and insurance costs; but the fundamentals are still true.
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In the modern cities, there are additional complications when it comes to young people meeting each other and having kids. by and large, Cities are richer and more populaus but not sustaianble without large rural areas to feed the cities
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...arguable
8:38 PM
current cities? Likely true...to a extent
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there's a reason I point out cities need to normalize urban gardens/farms
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because there is enough potentially farm friendly land to potentially offset rural areas.
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Detriot, while stiff suffering the effects of capitalism screwing them over, have been making a surprisingly decent come back via urban farming
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the big issue with city's is soil quality
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TheAnonymousDew 3/12/2023 8:46 PM
Decades of industrial pollution
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yup
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but ironically greenry has been show to help clean it yup
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That used to be the case, but insurance and medical bills alone made having kids expensive
It's funny that you think these people have insurance for their kids or pay for doctor's visits.
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Dying is expensive
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So yeah
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debt gonna sink them
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one way or another
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shrug it's not like that twatwaffle gives a fuck about her constituents... she's there for the grandiose fix... and to collect the bribe money.
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Black Magic 3/12/2023 11:06 PM
Another bank went down
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Prepare your anus for Monday (edited)
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calmly gets my wallet
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Imma try to buy stock cheap
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/12/2023 11:15 PM
if you wanna short, here's a table of companies tied to sivb
11:39 PM
also I want to desperately fuck with Thiel's day
11:41 PM
even if its only for short term, I do think the gamestop fuckery shows how weak wall street really is
11:42 PM
for quick clarification
11:44 PM
seriously tho wallstreet bets can be assholes, but they did point out that democratic collect stock power can fuck with a banks day
11:45 PM
it should be a valid tactic to punish right wing billionaires.
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How do you get that many people to spend their money though?
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hmm
11:54 PM
well the bet got started when a lotta fucks decided A.) Gamestop stock was dirt cheap and B.) How badly can we fuck up hedge bets (bets designed to basically bet which company was gonna fail/close)
11:55 PM
the trick is to never sale til you bankrupt the hedge bet
11:57 PM
we find thiel's hedge bets, we know which stock to invest in
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plus, the financial risk is smaller if its a large group doing it all at once taking a bit at a time
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/13/2023 2:42 AM
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TheAnonymousDew 3/13/2023 3:02 AM
People like Thiel think because they are powerful that they are above the law.
3:03 AM
Fuck no, time to send those fuckers crashing down to Earth
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exactly
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time to bankrupt wall street
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TheAnonymousDew 3/13/2023 9:59 AM
Fuckers had it coming for years
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"Investors in the banks will not be protected," Biden said. "They knowingly took a risk and when the risk didn't pay off, the investors lose their money."
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Aces high
time to bankrupt wall street
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It's odd
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Democrats usually intervene in the economy and do the bailouts, no?
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But Republicans do as well, especially because of lobbying and shit
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MisterStompy 3/13/2023 5:54 PM
They should take the investors' money and just give it all to me. I can take care of it. You can trust me. I never buy stupid things.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/13/2023 5:56 PM
XD
5:57 PM
We all have our fantasies
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They should take the investors' money and just give it all to me. I can take care of it. You can trust me. I never buy stupid things.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/13/2023 5:58 PM
Did I hear something about "redistribution of wealth"?
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Did I hear something about "redistribution of wealth"?
MisterStompy 3/13/2023 5:58 PM
It's not socialism because it's going to me and me alone. You think I'm sharing it with you guys?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/13/2023 5:59 PM
So I'm not getting my 1977 chrysler new Yorker Brougham?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/13/2023 5:59 PM
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MisterStompy 3/13/2023 5:59 PM
lol no, I'm getting 2 tons of plastic Army Men, however
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/13/2023 5:59 PM
Good way to spend money
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MisterStompy
It's not socialism because it's going to me and me alone. You think I'm sharing it with you guys?
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/13/2023 6:00 PM
Who said you have any say whether you're sharing it with us or not, bourgeoisie scum? (edited)
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Who said you have any say whether you're sharing it with us or not, bourgeoisie scum? (edited)
MisterStompy 3/13/2023 6:00 PM
Biden because he's giving me all the money. Just called me up and said "Listen Jack, buy those little green people, make a diorama."
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Biden because he's giving me all the money. Just called me up and said "Listen Jack, buy those little green people, make a diorama."
AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/13/2023 6:02 PM
So its not Joever
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MisterStompy 3/13/2023 6:02 PM
It's never Joever.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/13/2023 6:05 PM
lol
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MisterStompy 3/13/2023 6:09 PM
oh my god I fucking LOVE IT
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MisterStompy
oh my god I fucking LOVE IT
BASED
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/13/2023 6:12 PM
ITS JOEVER FOR THEM
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MisterStompy 3/13/2023 6:13 PM
6:13 PM
God I just wish he wasn't 342 years old, if he was in his 50's or something he'd be the best president since Eisenhower.
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oh my god I fucking LOVE IT
BubsyFanboy 3/13/2023 6:16 PM
Holy shit, it's real too
6:16 PM
Investors in the banks will not be protected. They knowingly took a risk, and when risks don’t pay off, investors lose their money. That’s how capitalism works.
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Black Magic 3/14/2023 1:05 AM
Jim Cramer gave the kiss of Death to JP Morgan
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First Republic bank is on Death watch
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Charles schwabb, Citi , JP Morgan, all under extreme stress.
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A Trillion Dollars disappeared on Monday
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in stock money?
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Black Magic 3/14/2023 1:09 AM
Part of the problem is, yea, it was Unicorn money
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it was never "real"
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oh good
1:11 AM
only rich fucks can afford "unicorn money"
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Black Magic 3/14/2023 1:17 AM
We'll see how it affects normal people.
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tbh I suspect not much
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Black Magic 3/14/2023 1:18 AM
A lot of businesses might go down from lack of liquidity or loss of funds in banks meant to be safe bets.
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the banks in questions were stockbroker banks as I call them
1:19 AM
they tend to carter to stocks and shit
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Black Magic 3/14/2023 1:19 AM
Mortgage backed Securities turned into Toxic assets, again, proving that no lessons are ever learned by anyone; ever.
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do agree start ups are mildly fucked atm tho
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Black Magic 3/14/2023 1:20 AM
So Black rock / Stone might go down. and good riddance
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But also consumer credit is going to become basically none-existant
1:21 AM
lots of consumers have Ludacris credit carddebt and also high car payments in underwater car loans.
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I see Delinquency ticking up in car loans, almost 1-in-10 car loans are 30 days delinquent
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ALLLLLSooooooo if there becomes a public perception that the house of cards is coming down, than there will be in crease in intentional delinquencies Becaue why pay a bank that's about to go under anyways.
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If you stop paying your car bills, it's your problem, but if half of everyone stops paying their car bills; it's the Banks problem
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Black Magic 3/14/2023 9:58 AM
So, stocks are rallying on the cocaine addicted fantasy of rate cuts; but also.. There are atleast 4 more banks poised to fail
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If the Fed DOES cut rates; price inflation would almost immediately come roaring back on a wave of huge gains in the markets, and real-estate asset prices bouncing faster than ever before back to their highs; and it would be a disaster
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Hmm, in the right wing mind the LGBTQ+ community and pornography are inextricably linked or associated. How do we decouple this association in right wing culture?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/14/2023 11:10 AM
I don’t think thats the case; its what they’re searching for as a justification for their hate.
11:43 AM
Kazakhs just straight up jacked a Russian space center lmao
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They use statistics from outdated and flawed studies to claim that homosexuals are more promiscuous as well
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Some of these studies are from the 1970s and most were taken in clubs, bars, brothels and other places where the people surveyed are more likely to be promiscuous (edited)
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More recent studies and even data from dating app questionnaires (which isn't as scientific) show that homosexuals aren't much more promiscuous than heterosexuals
12:13 PM
but right wingers intentionally ignore these studies
12:17 PM
Right-wing talking points, propaganda and messaging in general are based heavily around outrage. What they do is post photos of children being exposed to fetishists at gay pride parades, post ridiculous (but true) stories (like of that one MtF middle school teacher up in Canada with Z cup prosthetic breasts or whatever the hell it was), post tweets from fringe people talking about "killing all men" and saying "White people are evil," and so on and so forth. That's the strategy
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Selectively using things that are true and outrageous—but are still fringe, rare and condemned by most normal people—and presenting them as being "what the left wants" or "what the gays want" or, in the most extreme circles (which even most normal right wingers typically condemn), "what the Jews want" and they get people to believe it
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‘While not currently on an active assignment, the teacher remains employed with’ school board, spokesperson says
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Or this
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Or this
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12:28 PM
They post this stuff to get people angry and falsely represent these things as common, accepted or wanted by leftists, centrists, LGBT+ people, minorities, etc
12:33 PM
There's a few ways to combat it: 1. Talk about real issues that affect everybody, like wages, working conditions, social safety nets, housing, gas prices, violent crime, pollution, childcare, college accessibility and debts... Love him or hate him, this is supposedly the main strategy being used by Biden right now, and many people believe it will work in the next election. 2. Condemn these ridiculous things that right-wingers try to portray us as supporting and make it crystal clear that 99% of the general public, including 99% of people left-of-center, 99% of LGBT+ people, etc do not support these ridiculous things. 3. Show people that these incidents are extremely rare, extremely fringe and ultimately inconsequential. This relates back to methods #1 and #2.
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4. Weaponize outrage yourself. Show the right wingers are blood hungry lunatic who wanna do horrible things to your kids
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Fuck yes
12:39 PM
Absolutely
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Here's the kicker, reality has a liberal bias and as such it's true
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/14/2023 12:59 PM
I really hope that teacher with the Z cup thing got kicked out
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Armenian source: "The Azerbaijani Armed Forces are moving heavy equipment to the line of contact with Armenia and Artsakh/Nagorno-Karabakh
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BubsyFanboy 3/14/2023 3:21 PM
Although India remains a conservative country, acceptance of same sex relationships has been slowly growing among sections of society
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I just re learned about the marshall islands. Wow this is depressing and I don't know what else to do aside from what I have already been doing.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/14/2023 6:21 PM
Question
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Wtf is a sovereign citizen (edited)
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Bullshit
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/14/2023 6:23 PM
lmao
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not surprised
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/14/2023 6:25 PM
The bill could effectively reinstate a blocked ban on certain transition-related medical care for minors.
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Arkansas speed running a population crisis
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Wtf is a sovereign citizen (edited)
It's a movement of people who believe in various conspiracy theories and non-existent legal loopholes, and use these things as justifications for actions like not paying taxes and driving without a license.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/14/2023 6:32 PM
they sound annoying
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and dangerous
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They'll say "my birth certificate says 'John Doe,' but this court document says 'JOHN DOE' and since it is all caps it is therefore different and not me"
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or "the US flag in the court has gold fringe on it, therefore this court is an admiralty court and has no jurisdiction over me"
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or "I'm not driving, I'm traveling, and I do not need a license to travel"
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/14/2023 6:33 PM
ok these sound like very punchable people
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They are
6:34 PM
Watch compilations of them on YouTube, it's funny
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/14/2023 6:34 PM
lol
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caught my attention because i got a video on my front page "The wild world of sovereign citizens"
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Some guy who rammed his car through a Thanksgiving or Christmas Parade last year tried sovereign citizen shit in court and it disgusted everyone (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/14/2023 6:36 PM
normally, i wouldn't wish self harm on people, but......
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In Germany, they have a similar movement
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Reichsburger
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Citizens of the Reich
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Germany was officially known as the German Reich from 1871 to 1945, and these people claim that the Reich still exists and the Bundesrepublik is illegitimate (edited)
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although they're generally not Nazis, instead they're like some form of monarchist
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Sovereign citizens are like a bizarre form of right-wing libertarians/minarchists/anarchists
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although they're generally not Nazis, instead they're like some form of monarchist
bold of you to assume they aren't related
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keep in mind, Nazi's biggest upper class supporters were monarchist nobles until the nazis turned on them
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Some guy who rammed his car through a Thanksgiving or Christmas Parade last year tried sovereign citizen shit in court and it disgusted everyone (edited)
I remember that! Every GOP nutjob tried to paint him as a blm/antfi protestor but it turns out dude was a right wing libertarian asshole type
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Ehh
6:57 PM
He was a Black Hebrew Israelite
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which usually overlaps with sovereign citizens but not always
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still dude was NOT leftist
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or even liberal
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MisterStompy 3/14/2023 7:45 PM
Anybody who says Democrats and Republicans are "the same" is actively lying and they know it, and they are doing so because they want the far right to take over and pave way for a revolution that is very much not going to happen. It's literally point for point the German Communist Party's strategy in the late 20's and early 30's. "Well when you think about it, comrades, the SPD and the National Socialists are the same thing!"
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Another good one is "Democrats only exist to stop the left from taking over" Really? Is that true? Please tell me why my deeply conservative state that hasn't had a democratic majority in... well, ever, is currently not under the control of the Party for Socialism and Liberation. There's no democrats! Come on! Take over! You said you would! (edited)
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Go ahead and tell me that this guy is LITERALLY THE SAME!!!11! as Trump and DeSantis who very blatantly just want to fucking kill trans people. https://twitter.com/PunishedLink/status/1635711331163570187
European moderates: "welllll i think we should only suppress half of minorities" American moderates: "touch one trans person and god will come to earth and kill every conservative"
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/14/2023 8:00 PM
As does Michael Knowles and he's proud of it.
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He was a Black Hebrew Israelite
TheAnonymousDew 3/14/2023 8:04 PM
Ah yes, them..
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As a Jew myself, I hate how they are approprate MY culture (edited)
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MisterStompy
Anybody who says Democrats and Republicans are "the same" is actively lying and they know it, and they are doing so because they want the far right to take over and pave way for a revolution that is very much not going to happen. It's literally point for point the German Communist Party's strategy in the late 20's and early 30's. "Well when you think about it, comrades, the SPD and the National Socialists are the same thing!"
This is what I keep telling people. Stop bitching, get involved in local politics and keep the democrat voter block strong.
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you don't have to like them
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
As does Michael Knowles and he's proud of it.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/14/2023 8:05 PM
“not one of them has been able to identify any flaw in my argument” what fucking argument? that wasnt even an argument it was a statement
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but the democrats are leagues better
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MisterStompy
Anybody who says Democrats and Republicans are "the same" is actively lying and they know it, and they are doing so because they want the far right to take over and pave way for a revolution that is very much not going to happen. It's literally point for point the German Communist Party's strategy in the late 20's and early 30's. "Well when you think about it, comrades, the SPD and the National Socialists are the same thing!"
TheAnonymousDew 3/14/2023 8:05 PM
The Democrats are corrupt, but the Republicans have been taken over by Christian Fundamentalists, Conspiracy Nutcases, Neo-Nazis, and Klannies (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/14/2023 8:05 PM
an argument uses claims, evidence, and analysis of the evidence
8:06 PM
without one of those factors it ain’t an argument
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TheAnonymousDew 3/14/2023 8:06 PM
The parties are NOT the same
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MisterStompy
Anybody who says Democrats and Republicans are "the same" is actively lying and they know it, and they are doing so because they want the far right to take over and pave way for a revolution that is very much not going to happen. It's literally point for point the German Communist Party's strategy in the late 20's and early 30's. "Well when you think about it, comrades, the SPD and the National Socialists are the same thing!"
floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/14/2023 8:06 PM
to be fair, it heavily depends on your point of view.
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TheAnonymousDew 3/14/2023 8:06 PM
That's my stance
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/14/2023 8:07 PM
for me for example, there is much less of a perceived difference between the parties than a social democrat would see because im much further left and anti-state
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i still acknowledge they’re not the same ofc
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
to be fair, it heavily depends on your point of view.
Unless your point of view is a stalinist tankie, no they're not the same
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TheAnonymousDew 3/14/2023 8:07 PM
Remember, when anybody pulls the "Both sides are the same" card, remind them of this fact: Right wing rage gave us the KKK, the Civil War, the Holocaust, and World War II, while left wing rage gave us the weekend, the 40 hour work week, and OSHAA (edited)
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MisterStompy
Anybody who says Democrats and Republicans are "the same" is actively lying and they know it, and they are doing so because they want the far right to take over and pave way for a revolution that is very much not going to happen. It's literally point for point the German Communist Party's strategy in the late 20's and early 30's. "Well when you think about it, comrades, the SPD and the National Socialists are the same thing!"
Leftists who say this believe that social democrats and such are evil because they want to reform capitalism rather than abolish it, and reforming it will keep it alive longer. They believe that unregulated, laissez-faire, right-libertarian capitalism is preferable to regulated, socdem forms of capitalism because the lack of regulation will eventually lead to the downfall of capitalism
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TheAnonymousDew 3/14/2023 8:08 PM
Unregulated capitalism will always destroy itself and turn into fascism (edited)
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Thing is regulated capitalism does work
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and me, a staunch dem soc, think the idea of anti-state is fundamentally impossible, but none the less, I still make it a goal to fuck over a fucking gop fascist fuck
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These people believe that by wanting to reform capitalism, you are a "class traitor" and an ally of the "bourgeoisie" and "fascists" whether you know it or not
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/14/2023 8:08 PM
regulated capitalism “works” as in it functions but it does not provide for the needs of every member of society
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TheAnonymousDew 3/14/2023 8:08 PM
Norway, Sweden, Germany, hell most of Europe
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/14/2023 8:09 PM
it relies on someone being hungry
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No no, I just factor in human greed
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
regulated capitalism “works” as in it functions but it does not provide for the needs of every member of society
TheAnonymousDew 3/14/2023 8:09 PM
Which is why I'm a SocDem
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Markets are there for needs the state can't fulfill
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And to fill in gaps
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and you shouldn't necessarily allow the state to fulfill everything but neither should the market
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TheAnonymousDew 3/14/2023 8:10 PM
I myself believe any critical national infrastructure should be nationalized for the common good
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hybrid economic situations tend to work best
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TheAnonymousDew 3/14/2023 8:10 PM
Stuff like freight rail, the power grid
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I myself believe any critical national infrastructure should be nationalized for the common good
this too
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healthcare
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TheAnonymousDew 3/14/2023 8:10 PM
Reasonable, right?
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ye
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TheAnonymousDew 3/14/2023 8:10 PM
Stuff that is vital to keep the nation functioning
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The nation functioning and its citizens healthy
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TheAnonymousDew 3/14/2023 8:11 PM
I'm fine with supermarkets, commercial rail and air travel, etc. being privatized though
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With some regulations of course
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To ensure safety and protection of labor and consumers (edited)
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MisterStompy 3/14/2023 8:12 PM
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TheAnonymousDew 3/14/2023 8:12 PM
You guys would agree right?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/14/2023 8:13 PM
this is why accelerationism is stupid
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the government will never let itself collapse
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TheAnonymousDew 3/14/2023 8:14 PM
As we have seen in East Palestine, Ohio, Texas, and Paradise, California, private companies will only answer to shareholders who only care about profits and nothing else, which leads to catastrophic results (edited)
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@floppunism [BOI, ID] @archon @Aces high
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/14/2023 8:16 PM
well yeah but also no
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you’re speaking to an anticapitalist lmao i disagree with any upholding of the capitalist system but i will still respect your idea as its progressive and this isn’t a server to worry about capitalism much anyways
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MisterStompy 3/14/2023 8:17 PM
Exactly we all agreed that the money people invested into SVB should be just given to me as a present anyway.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/14/2023 8:18 PM
true
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capitalism but its actually stompyism and he owns everything
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
you’re speaking to an anticapitalist lmao i disagree with any upholding of the capitalist system but i will still respect your idea as its progressive and this isn’t a server to worry about capitalism much anyways
TheAnonymousDew 3/14/2023 8:19 PM
Fair enough..
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That happened because one of the bastards that caused the 2008 Financial Crisis wasn't held accountable
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
you’re speaking to an anticapitalist lmao i disagree with any upholding of the capitalist system but i will still respect your idea as its progressive and this isn’t a server to worry about capitalism much anyways
TheAnonymousDew 3/14/2023 8:20 PM
What's your stance on Yugoslav style market socialism?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/14/2023 8:20 PM
don’t know enough about it to have an opinion
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i’ll take a look
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TheAnonymousDew 3/14/2023 8:22 PM
Basically, unlike the command economies we saw in the USSR and Maoist China, Market Socialism is what the name implies
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As we have seen in East Palestine, Ohio, Texas, and Paradise, California, private companies will only answer to shareholders who only care about profits and nothing else, which leads to catastrophic results (edited)
Fuck, considering Musk, only listening to share holders won't always the case either. It wasn't that long ago when generations of wealth could cause rich people in fighting and I have a gut feeling that disorder to be rich will bring that back up in the future. Shareholders vs ceo is a thing that happens and can get ugly
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TheAnonymousDew 3/14/2023 8:26 PM
@floppunism [BOI, ID] Basically, market socialism works by instead of the state controlling production like in the Soviet Union, workers co-ops control it
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There is still the drive for profit, but instead of the profits funneling up, the workers share it
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/14/2023 8:32 PM
Oooh
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MisterStompy
Another good one is "Democrats only exist to stop the left from taking over" Really? Is that true? Please tell me why my deeply conservative state that hasn't had a democratic majority in... well, ever, is currently not under the control of the Party for Socialism and Liberation. There's no democrats! Come on! Take over! You said you would! (edited)
That's a very good argument against accelerationism
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Leftists who say this believe that social democrats and such are evil because they want to reform capitalism rather than abolish it, and reforming it will keep it alive longer. They believe that unregulated, laissez-faire, right-libertarian capitalism is preferable to regulated, socdem forms of capitalism because the lack of regulation will eventually lead to the downfall of capitalism
I utterly despise people who would rather see millions of people suffer because "it creates the conditions for people to revolt, and then MY system will rule society and everything will be better!"
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And then their system is shit and everything is just as bad if not worse
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These people need to learn humility
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@floppunism [BOI, ID] Basically, market socialism works by instead of the state controlling production like in the Soviet Union, workers co-ops control it
Market socialism, with co-ops but a market that is controlled by the state with some nationalized infrastructure is imo the most reasonably achievable perfect society
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And strong safety net too
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Business should be allowed to fail, but you also need to make sure it doesn't affect the people's lives too much
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Any experiment even in the USSR and North Korea showed that in forced collectivized farms, yields were FAR better in the small areas farmers were allowed to use for themselves
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Since they had an incentive to make it grow better
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Since they had an incentive to make it grow better
TheAnonymousDew 3/14/2023 9:26 PM
And means no shortages
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And you do reward success
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oy, Florida doing some real scum shit, anyone in a blue state, contact your dem reps: https://wesh.com/article/trans-child-custody-bill-florida/43300540
The bill would require licensed facilities to attest that they are not providing such treatments to patients under 18.
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this is also again, violating other state laws...and a good way to cause the second parent to be "missing"
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Unless your point of view is a stalinist tankie, no they're not the same
They are not the same, but they share many commonalities over the whole of both parties. 1: They both place the will of their big money donors over that of their constituents. 2: They both participate in election rigging through micromanaging the primary process... and the courts have ruled that they are allowed to do so. 3: They both manipulate their constituency with a wide variety of tactics, rather than allow the constituency to dictate to them the party direction. 4: They both utilize mainstream media to do all of the above... because mainstream media is controlled by their big money donors. 5: They both not only condone, but exploit the fuck out of lobbying and inside trader information, and outright bribery in the form of their family members being gifted 7+ figure a year jobs, and all expenses paid vacations to resorts exclusive to the super wealthy. They differ on methods of manipulation, and they differ on positions relative to what will inflame their constituency the most any given election cycle. And they differ in that Republicans are willing to make good on their threats to pass laws that further their agenda and embolden their base... but Democrats are content to play hide and seek when it comes to their promises... using the ever present threat created by the GOP to motivate their constituents... without ever actually using their power to nullify those threats by passing laws to enshrine the freedoms they talk up so much. They are not the same. They are two sides of a coin, and one cannot exist without the other, and the coin's purpose is to allow their owners to rape and pillage not only within the United States, but across the entire world. (edited)
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Then... there are extremists within the GOP who are even more willing to escalate the threats they use to pander to their base... so instead of being just a corrupt party willing to sell out their own voters to become rich beyond imagining... there are parts of the party who are also willing to incite people to murder to further increase the flames. But there is no opposite part of the Democratic Party... in fact they will gladly sell out each and every one of their constituents who are in direct opposition to those GOP extremists... to satisfy the white liberals who call for non-violence. Ironically proving every black civil rights leader of the 60's and every black freedman of the 1800s correct.
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So when someone claims, the parties are the same... they are technically wrong. But they both serve the same master, and their opposition to one another is a function of the process by which we all lose... not a genuine opposition of beliefs.
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LINCOLN, Neb. (AP) — It was a mundane, unanimously supported bill on liquor taxation that saw state Sen. Machaela Cavanaugh take to the mic on the Nebraska Legislature floor last week. She offered her support, then spent the next three days discussing everything but the bill, including her favorite Girl Scout cookies, Omaha's best doughnuts and ...
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this woman woke up the chose to channel her inner untitled goose and I am here for it
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BubsyFanboy 3/15/2023 5:24 AM
She sent self-administered abortion pills to a pregnant woman, whose husband discovered them and reported the case to police.
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MisterStompy 3/15/2023 2:16 PM
wtf the British did something smart for once?! https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1635997690092814336
“Nuclear power will be classed as environmentally sustainable,” the Chancellor says, giving it access to same investment incentives as renewables Jeremy Hunt also launches "Great British Nuclear" aimed at bringing down costs of producing nuclear power https://t.co/SGJJtCPJXF
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/15/2023 2:23 PM
love how people mention three mile island as a nuclear disaster when it really just… wasnt
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nobody died
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no significant damage occurred
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MisterStompy 3/15/2023 2:33 PM
And the only guy to die from the Fukushima disaster iirc was an old guy who volunteered to clean up material, and he very well might have died from complications due to being a lifelong smoker.
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Weren't multiple cases of cancer attributed to the incident?
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Republicans who control the Wisconsin Assembly have voted to allow therapists and others to attempt to change a person's sexual orientation or gender identity. The discredited practice is known as
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/15/2023 3:56 PM
i just read the background for Warren vs DC which was the initial case saying that cops don’t have to protect you and holy shit it is awful
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i just read the background for Warren vs DC which was the initial case saying that cops don’t have to protect you and holy shit it is awful
I forget the name of the other case, but a woman's kid was under threat from either her ex boyfriend or ex husband she had recorded threats on the child's life and the police refused to ask. Supreme Court ruled that the responsibility to protect citizens by police is limited to citizens placed under arrest. Cops literally have no legal responsibility to do anything they justify having the right to kill for.
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The dude did kill the daughter and the police knew it was going to happen and never did anything to stop it.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/15/2023 4:23 PM
i absolutely love the state of law enforcement in this country 😀
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Isn't it grand!
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/15/2023 4:25 PM
I tried explaining this to my mom. You know what she told me? "Well, become a cop then." I love my parents but they are so out of touch it hurts sometimes.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/15/2023 4:27 PM
tbh for a while i wanted to be a cop because my personality really aligns with the in-a-perfect-world job description and to offset the “bad apples” but then i realized that you cannot be a good cop while being a cop
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become a judge
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/15/2023 4:27 PM
i’ve a friend jn another server who’s a former cop, very similar story and he left after a year because he realized all he was doing was 95% hurting people and 5% actually helping people
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MisterStompy 3/15/2023 4:28 PM
You're really better off just playing SWAT 4 or something.
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I was around 14 when I realized the only place where all cops are decent is video games and comic books and shit.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/15/2023 4:32 PM
yeah i have 200 hours in ready or not lmao
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MisterStompy 3/15/2023 4:32 PM
Yeah sorry bud, none of the nightclub shooters are getting taken in alive.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/15/2023 4:33 PM
Especially seeing as they shoot up a hospital later.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Especially seeing as they shoot up a hospital later.
MisterStompy 3/15/2023 4:34 PM
Best part about the hospital is you can just turn them into spontaneous blood doners. I mean all the machinery is right there.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/15/2023 4:34 PM
Lmfao
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I gotta get my hands on swat 4
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because like fuxking hell is my PC gonna run ready or not
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MisterStompy 3/15/2023 4:35 PM
I still think that if they do actually put that school mission into the game, there has to be another SWAT team that was too afraid to go in. Or there should be a mission where you can accidentally raid the wrong house.
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I still think that if they do actually put that school mission into the game, there has to be another SWAT team that was too afraid to go in. Or there should be a mission where you can accidentally raid the wrong house.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/15/2023 4:38 PM
Honestly, I really think they should do it. I like the game because it makes you properly horrified of the events taking place.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/15/2023 4:39 PM
Btw if anybody actually wants to play some RON, hmu. I've been trying to play it solo but the squadmate AI apparently trains with the Uvalde PD.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/15/2023 4:39 PM
yeah lmao I just play solo now
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I just make them stay outside
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Btw if anybody actually wants to play some RON, hmu. I've been trying to play it solo but the squadmate AI apparently trains with the Uvalde PD.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/15/2023 4:39 PM
I’m up for it whenever!
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Btw if anybody actually wants to play some RON, hmu. I've been trying to play it solo but the squadmate AI apparently trains with the Uvalde PD.
MisterStompy 3/15/2023 4:42 PM
I'm about to get way better internet, I'll try to remember to hit you up
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/15/2023 4:55 PM
Well, seems like the most annoying type of year is coming up here, the ElEcTiOnS, lets see what happens on Next year's shitshow, coming with a Trash crisis too!
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What is it about the conservative mindset is that they take everything they perceive as bad and try to wall it off or shove it someplace else. While everything good they try to wall in with them in a curated bubble? Why is it that solution and no other solutions?
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What is it about the conservative mindset is that they take everything they perceive as bad and try to wall it off or shove it someplace else. While everything good they try to wall in with them in a curated bubble? Why is it that solution and no other solutions?
As an ex "conservative", no idea
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sexism usually
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What is it about the conservative mindset is that they take everything they perceive as bad and try to wall it off or shove it someplace else. While everything good they try to wall in with them in a curated bubble? Why is it that solution and no other solutions?
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/15/2023 5:43 PM
It's the "Fuck you, I got mine." mentality that permeates the party.
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Yes, but wouldn't they want to keep the people they don't like around to keep on stealing from them?
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Why spend all of this money on walls and gated communities and laws/ rules designed to drive away anyone and everyone republicans don't like?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/15/2023 5:45 PM
You're expecting conservatives/fascists to use logic.
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Why spend all of this money on walls and gated communities and laws/ rules designed to drive away anyone and everyone republicans don't like?
floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/15/2023 5:46 PM
Because they hate those people and don’t want them around
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It would take less money and effort to move themselves to a place where they can exist without people they don't like. Like the american redoubt in idaho or montana.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/15/2023 5:52 PM
Again, you're expecting reactionaries to use their brains.
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It would take less money and effort to move themselves to a place where they can exist without people they don't like. Like the american redoubt in idaho or montana.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/15/2023 5:52 PM
That's what they're trying. There's been a massive amount of conservatives moving to Idaho in the past 7 years.
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They don't know that we're here, too. And that's why they're angry.
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Still, some republicans are capable of logical thought, and so somewhere in there is a philosophy. I just poke holes through it all the time. I'm just looking for a coherent ideology. That isn't they hate certain people and want them gone. The base ideology that I have currently found is they want the right people to be in charge over the wrong people and the wrong people out of power. With the right people being themselves and the wrong people being everyone that disagrees with them.
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I gotta get my hands on swat 4
You should play This Land Is My Land... You play as the original Homeland Defense.
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Still, some republicans are capable of logical thought, and so somewhere in there is a philosophy. I just poke holes through it all the time. I'm just looking for a coherent ideology. That isn't they hate certain people and want them gone. The base ideology that I have currently found is they want the right people to be in charge over the wrong people and the wrong people out of power. With the right people being themselves and the wrong people being everyone that disagrees with them.
You misspelled white.
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You should play This Land Is My Land... You play as the original Homeland Defense.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/15/2023 6:46 PM
one problem
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Fair ... Wishlist it and buy it on sale. The devs suck anyway.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/15/2023 6:47 PM
lmao
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Me trying to find a devteam that isn't sucky
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But the game as far as it is is pretty good. It's a what if sort of game on the premise that all the nations have volunteers to join to put a stop to white colonization. It rewards scaring them off over just killing them. Like you can literally knock them out and dose them with a psychedelic kinda like the scarecrows .
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/15/2023 6:49 PM
Seems like an interesting game
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OH think I saw it on my steam page a while back
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When people say they don't care if you're X type of minority group either Do care and get absolutely fucking butthurt/really angry about it for no real reason Are completely fine with it
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/15/2023 9:18 PM
Arguing against a bill to bar the practice in public schools, Oklahoma Rep. Jim Olsen (R) quoted a Bible verse from Proverbs: "The rod and reproof give wisdom."
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/15/2023 9:44 PM
my brother in christ there is a lot of stupid shit in the bible, c h i l l
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When people say they don't care if you're X type of minority group either Do care and get absolutely fucking butthurt/really angry about it for no real reason Are completely fine with it
huh?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/16/2023 12:08 AM
First Amendment experts say attacks on free speech rights are escalating across the United States
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WELL NO SHIT
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/16/2023 12:13 AM
YA FUCKIN THINK??
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/16/2023 12:14 AM
Leave it to the news to downplay it until it's too late.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/16/2023 1:06 AM
Experts are concerned that if clinics stop providing abortions, hospitals’ comparatively higher costs of care and staffing shortages will make it harder to get legal abortions in Utah.
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And here we see what allowing a select few authority over things does. Democracy in action. This isn't an aberration of the system, or even a corruption of it. This is exactly how the founders intended it to work. They virtually all believed that the landowning white men were all better equipped to decide every aspect of law than the individual citizen.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/16/2023 3:45 AM
The Eichenfeld massacre was a 1919 attack against the Mennonite colonists of Eichenfeld by the Revolutionary Insurgent Army of Ukraine. Rising tensions between the native Ukrainian peasantry and Mennonite landowners had culminated with attacks on the latter, as insurgents took control of southern Ukraine and began carrying out reprisals against ...
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Just gonna leave this here.
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Your beloved Makhno wasn't a hero either.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Your beloved Makhno wasn't a hero either.
Not my beloved. I don't recall ever claiming he was infallible. Maybe you are mistaking me for someone else. Not all anarchism exists within the framework of over a hundred years ago. Nor should any today do so.
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Not my beloved. I don't recall ever claiming he was infallible. Maybe you are mistaking me for someone else. Not all anarchism exists within the framework of over a hundred years ago. Nor should any today do so.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/16/2023 4:25 AM
So in other words, we shouldn't base our opinions on the older and likely more flawed versions of something.
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Also, can we at least give Thomas Paine a little credit?
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And here we see what allowing a select few authority over things does. Democracy in action. This isn't an aberration of the system, or even a corruption of it. This is exactly how the founders intended it to work. They virtually all believed that the landowning white men were all better equipped to decide every aspect of law than the individual citizen.
Democratic republic
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The Founders wanted a republic rather than a pure democracy because it is easier for their elite group to maintain control in a republican system
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
So in other words, we shouldn't base our opinions on the older and likely more flawed versions of something.
Makhno was a product of years of prison, with many of those who fought by him also former political prisoners, the rest of his forces were also a product of the brutality of the Tzar. We cannot look back on his decisions (rarely made by consensus of the whole), nor the actions of those who gave him authority (also not the whole) as applicable today. Whatever happens in the future is uncertain, we can only act with the knowledge we have now. Which includes identifying the differences in position we are in from those who walked before us, the flaws in their original philosophy, and make plans and take action applicable to now. We can strive for better decision making practices, which will mitigate mistakes made in the past. Learn what people like Makhno did. But don't copy it. Learn from the successes and mistakes, and build a better plan of action.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/16/2023 11:00 AM
what we should copy though is the impeccable drip of his right-hand man
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Also, can we at least give Thomas Paine a little credit?
Thomas Paine was influential, but largely only on the poorest, but he was a hopeless idealist the founders used to inflame the poor (which did the bulk of the fighting). His words did not change the minds of people like Adams or Jefferson, they appreciated his ability to speak to the common man... and get them to see the injustices. The nation Thomas Paine wanted to see never came about. And since he's been used to propagate a lie... similarly to his role while alive... that the country was based on equality for everyone.
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Make no mistake, I like Thomas Paine's work. It's passionate, and well reasoned. But it didn't influence our founders like we've been taught. It was used to mobilize the masses of poor.
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We should learn that if you want to dress to get the ladies... follow the lead of the sailor in the group. Also, a ceremonial dagger across the chest makes a hell of an impression.
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Thomas Paine was influential, but largely only on the poorest, but he was a hopeless idealist the founders used to inflame the poor (which did the bulk of the fighting). His words did not change the minds of people like Adams or Jefferson, they appreciated his ability to speak to the common man... and get them to see the injustices. The nation Thomas Paine wanted to see never came about. And since he's been used to propagate a lie... similarly to his role while alive... that the country was based on equality for everyone.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/16/2023 2:47 PM
If that nation hasn't come about, I intend to do my damnedest to make sure that it does and no old rich white asshole, dead or living, is going to stand in my way. "...my country is the world and my religion is to do good."
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/16/2023 5:18 PM
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/16/2023 7:58 PM
A new Florida bill criminalizes not just undocumented Floridians but anyone who associates with them.
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If that nation hasn't come about, I intend to do my damnedest to make sure that it does and no old rich white asshole, dead or living, is going to stand in my way. "...my country is the world and my religion is to do good."
So long as there is a nation, there is authority over the people within it and without. Wherever that is true there will never be the nation Thomas Paine wrote to try to bring about.
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Idaho House passed bill to ban teens from getting abortions in other states. All red states are a threat to freedom. It's never been about 'pro-life.' It's always been about controlling women.🤬 #VoteGopOut https://t.co/AFgY1vSDIS
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/16/2023 11:07 PM
GOD DAMNIT I FUCKING HATE THIS STATE
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...ok One
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why is Vanity Fair just not giving a fuck and calling it like it is. Second, WHY IS THAT SUCH A GOOD TITLE
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/17/2023 1:01 AM
"we gotta vote them out guys!!!1!" yeah lmao in this state where only two counties are blue and those counties had a combined population of 7,000? fucking liberals man
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To be fair, statistically there is a argument that there are more liberal leaning folk, but they don't vote nor poll.
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hell, 2022 being such a fucking gutpunch to the GOP was them seriously underestimating dems willingness to poll
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BubsyFanboy 3/17/2023 8:50 AM
The German federal parliament, the Bundestag, is bursting at the seams. Now the ruling parties have pushed through legislation to make it smaller and limit its size. But the opposition argues that is unconstitutional.
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Yeah I kinda agree. Bigger parliament may make voting a nightmare but it also decreases corruption fuckery
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/17/2023 3:16 PM
The way I see it, you don't seek vengeance because of what they've done but because they might do it again.
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TBH, Vengeance is bad, especially if you want to avoid a cycle of violence...but that doesn't mean immediately removing someone that poses as a threat to the greater whole is vengeance. That's pragmatism
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/17/2023 3:28 PM
Eye for an eye is not sustainable
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nope
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but don't take shit either
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/17/2023 3:29 PM
exactly
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there's fighting evil and then there's being Theodore N. Kaunfman
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(Fun fact his book was used as propaganda by the nazis)
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so uh, probably prolonged the war there mr ted
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/17/2023 3:49 PM
A Florida textbook publisher removed all references of race from a lesson about civil rights icon Rosa Parks in order to get a Florida committee’s approval, according to The New York Times.  P…
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Maybe it'll make them see that such laws cannot be maintained
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But I doubt it
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/17/2023 10:22 PM
Y'all, I have some good news. West Virginia adjourned Sine Die. With it, 17 anti-trans bills die. HB2007 - a medical ban with an exception for "severe dysphoria" did pass. But the drag ban, legal health discrimination, forced misgendering, book bans, birth cert ban all fail.
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hi spinner!
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AT THE ANTI TRANS BILL
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NOT SPINNER
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/17/2023 10:23 PM
LMAO
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
The way I see it, you don't seek vengeance because of what they've done but because they might do it again.
Vengeance is bad because it stems from emotion, and thus makes most people prone to do stupid things, make stupid mistakes... not because it's unethical. Violence against someone for the purpose of preventing them from committing violence on others is something you can both approach logically, and is ethically justified.
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NOT SPINNER
Look, just because I'm poly doesn't mean I'm a ho. At least not in this reality... in the alternate universe where I wasn't a complete fucking idiot, I absolutely probably still am a ho.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/17/2023 10:26 PM
lmao
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nice to find someone else who's poly!
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I WAS CALLING THE GOP VIRGINIA AND THEIR ANTI TRANS BILL THOTS
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Also it's a pain level 9 day... I'm barely able to keep from crying right now... and that only due to the medical edible I saved for days like today.
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I WAS CALLING THE GOP VIRGINIA AND THEIR ANTI TRANS BILL THOTS
Oi! Leave my actually somewhat sane state legislature out of this!
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
nice to find someone else who's poly!
Everyone is poly till they find out they have to learn how to process their insecurities to overcome jealousy and gain consent.
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Also it's a pain level 9 day... I'm barely able to keep from crying right now... and that only due to the medical edible I saved for days like today.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/17/2023 10:28 PM
Oh shit, I'm sorry man. Those days fucking suck, but at least we're at the tail end of today.
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Oi! Leave my actually somewhat sane state legislature out of this!
I guarantee nothing til you bully your neighboring sister state into behaving
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/17/2023 10:29 PM
Anything I can do to help you?
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Oi! Leave my actually somewhat sane state legislature out of this!
They aren't even a little sane... they still passed a ban with very high bar for overcoming it.
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The senate is under control of the democrats, what ban ate you talking about? Can you specify? And can you not constantly put 3 dots at the end of sentences?
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I guarantee nothing til you bully your neighboring sister state into behaving
WV ain't a sister state, not in the slightest
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The senate is under control of the democrats, what ban ate you talking about? Can you specify? And can you not constantly put 3 dots at the end of sentences?
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I'm Virginian
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Not west Virginian
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Anything I can do to help you?
Naw thanks for the offer though. The issue is that the pain is a cascading one... it's gulf war related muscle pain overlayed over all my other crap... hurts, but then hurts more when I tense... but I tense my muscles when I'm in pain... so it just fights.
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Not west Virginian
The only difference is a little less cousin fucking and more tobacco. (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/17/2023 10:34 PM
And no Mountain Mama.
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And no Mountain Mama.
Fair.
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Though one set of those mountains is the boarder with Virginia... so Mountain Mama could be in Virginia too.
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Naw thanks for the offer though. The issue is that the pain is a cascading one... it's gulf war related muscle pain overlayed over all my other crap... hurts, but then hurts more when I tense... but I tense my muscles when I'm in pain... so it just fights.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/17/2023 10:37 PM
Hell man, I've never heard of a guy who comes out of the military without some sort of chronic pain. Don't forget about ibuprofen if you have some, I know I'm a guy who's prone to forgetting that exists so just wanna make sure lol (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Hell man, I've never heard of a guy who comes out of the military without some sort of chronic pain. Don't forget about ibuprofen if you have some, I know I'm a guy who's prone to forgetting that exists so just wanna make sure lol (edited)
Took a dose of Ibuprofen, but can't take too much. It's done it's own damage over the years.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/17/2023 10:38 PM
Oh yeah, for sure.
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There were years when I popped six at a time twice a day or more day in and day out.
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Now I have more pain, but less bleeding stomach/intestines. (edited)
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I "accidentally" recommend a foot up said Legislator's ass as a valid alternative to saluting
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/18/2023 3:52 AM
https://youtube.com/shorts/9mYC0gc_K6s?feature=share This clip is a perfect example of why you can never have a reasonable debate with a conservative.
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This woman posed a perfectly legitimate question, asking Knowles why he keeps pushing the "Us vs. Them" dynamic, and was met with mockery.
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They will always argue in bad faith if they have any faith at all.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/18/2023 10:51 AM
isn’t it curious how 2 years ago heroin was the big scary drug but now that we pulled out of occupying one of the biggest opium-producing countries in the world it suddenly disappeared?
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NEW YORK (AP) — Donald Trump said he expects to be arrested Tuesday and called on supporters to protest as a New York grand jury investigates hush money payments to women who alleged sexual encounters with the former president.
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Trump's calling for "protests"
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Jan 6th 2.0?
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I want to counterprotest this, but I also don't want to be there if this winds up looking like Jan 6th again
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/18/2023 11:36 AM
oh shit.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/18/2023 11:47 AM
Cool picture from the hearing yesterday
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I want to counterprotest this, but I also don't want to be there if this winds up looking like Jan 6th again
Yup, called it. Getting my axe
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Allegedly Human 3/18/2023 12:12 PM
I'll believe he's getting arrested when I see it 🫤
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We’ll see what happens. Assuming he is detained and there are protests it could be violent
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Also raises a good question about the president and the law. Of course no president is above the law but there voice is powerful and out of all the things he fully deserves to be in jail for this one seems the least important and only fuels people who believe in the witch hunt
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MisterStompy 3/18/2023 3:21 PM
All I know is that a lot of Trump's supporters are saying DeSantis set this whole thing up, and we should definitely encourage that kind of rhetoric, mainly because it's funny tbh
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/18/2023 3:30 PM
i love when the enemy infights :D
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MisterStompy 3/18/2023 3:55 PM
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At this point it's not even coherent.
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MisterStompy 3/18/2023 4:18 PM
President Trump will be arrested during Lent—a time of suffering and purification for the followers of Jesus Christ. As Christ was crucified, and then rose again on the 3rd day, so too will @realDonaldTrump. Violence is never the answer. Winning the election is. Vote for Trump!
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/18/2023 4:53 PM
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/18/2023 4:53 PM
"Violence is never the answer." - Party that encourages violence towards its enemies
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If they want Trump to rise on the 3rd day, they gotta make sure he's crucified first
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Since I don't personally believe in comparing Trump to Jesus, I will not personally advocate for crucifying Trump, but I think anyone who believes that Trump will rise on the 3rd day should act to make it possible.
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reminds me of this story that's been floating around lately
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Oh god
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Literally OH GOD
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/18/2023 5:03 PM
you think he said
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"OH ME"
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And that's a paddlin' smiting
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/18/2023 5:07 PM
i deserve that lmao
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MisterStompy 3/18/2023 5:32 PM
ooooof
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/18/2023 5:39 PM
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We’ll see what happens. Assuming he is detained and there are protests it could be violent
floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/18/2023 6:20 PM
It will 100% be violent
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People shot up FBI offices what MAL got raided
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It will 100% be violent
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/18/2023 7:17 PM
And that's why I went out and bought some extra ammo today.
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Trump knows his cult followers. By calling for them to “Protest, take our nation back!” he’s implicitly urging them to riot in the streets. Trump is growing increasingly desperate. To save himself from the justice he fears is coming, he’s hoping for a repeat of January 6th —…
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sorry for the twitter but yup, he's aiming for riots
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Lmao
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HOW DARE YOU ARREST RICH PEOPLE
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/18/2023 10:02 PM
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also, gonna remind ya'll, its legal to hit protestors with your car in Florida https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/04/ron-desantis-anti-riot-bill
Ron DeSantis apparently has a problem with the constitutionally enshrined right to assemble.
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also, gonna remind ya'll, its legal to hit protestors with your car in Florida https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/04/ron-desantis-anti-riot-bill
AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/18/2023 10:04 PM
double edged sword if they protest, bring out the fucking tahoe
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in beamng drive
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exactly my point
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AIF Cuirassier regiment
double edged sword if they protest, bring out the fucking tahoe
AlexanderthePrettyGood 3/18/2023 10:10 PM
woah woah woah - it's 2023 buddy
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bring out the Hummer EV
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it's twice the weight
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/18/2023 10:11 PM
me when EV 🤮
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i have a better proposition
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large luxo barge sedans
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 3/18/2023 10:11 PM
oh you dead wrong there friend. Electrics are the future, and the future is here.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/18/2023 10:11 PM
they have hood ornaments
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oh you dead wrong there friend. Electrics are the future, and the future is here.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/18/2023 10:11 PM
no my dear brother, train transport is the future
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 3/18/2023 10:11 PM
I'll use the scalps of traitors as my hood ornaments
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/18/2023 10:11 PM
cars are shit
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
I'll use the scalps of traitors as my hood ornaments
AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/18/2023 10:12 PM
old hood ornaments are basically knifes lmao
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AIF Cuirassier regiment
no my dear brother, train transport is the future
AlexanderthePrettyGood 3/18/2023 10:12 PM
cars represent an independence of movement that Americans will never give up
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cars represent an independence of movement that Americans will never give up
AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/18/2023 10:12 PM
I fucking love cars, they are probably my favorite type of transport, but they are absolutely horrendous
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mass transport trumps cars 10/10 times
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 3/18/2023 10:13 PM
on a train, I can only go from specific point A to specific point B at only specific times - I live in a major city with over a dozen subway lines, I still prefer my electric even in all the traffic
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America just isn't densely populated enough for huge high speed networks like Europe and China. I'd love it if we did Amtrak is cool, but it's just not right for us
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/18/2023 10:14 PM
america was built on great railways that the great car conglomerates took from you
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trams were bought out by car companies and thrown to the trash
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 3/18/2023 10:15 PM
This is solely because trains were invented first
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/18/2023 10:15 PM
america has some really dense cities that could use a lot of mass transport
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and some de-suburbanification
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 3/18/2023 10:16 PM
yeah but it's only viable inside those dense cities, most of our population is suburban
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/18/2023 10:16 PM
a lot of de-suburbanification
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 3/18/2023 10:17 PM
nah, just open up zoning laws for suburbs, I want a lebanese immigrant family bodega in every goddamn subdivision 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🦅 🦅 🏈
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/18/2023 10:19 PM
We can agree to disagree
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 3/18/2023 10:20 PM
this is America, you have the freedom to be wrong -
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Suburbs based to live in
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People are like "suburbs are so horrible, you live 30 minutes away from the nearest store" like stfu that's not a suburb, that's rural imo
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my suburb has every main type of place within 20 minutes walking distance, often 5 minutes for most things
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That's the way it ought to be
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as someone who lives with fam in suburbs yes everything is fucking 30+ minutes away
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You live in a farm town to me
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your case is not typical
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lol
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it should be, damn it
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they're trying to urbanize my burb though
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dance studio went out of business, they build apartments
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apartments get filled up, gotta expand the schools
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built apartments on a baseball field too
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It'll take several decades for things to get horrible though
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I live in CA...next to one LA county city while keeping it vague. Car culture is a mistake
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Idk. I take the back roads to work instead of the highway. Extra 10 minutes but it's very nice
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Side roads and back roads are cool
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Highways are only nice early in the morning or super late at night when no one is on the road and you can go 80 MPH
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Being miles away from things is dumb too
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One day, there will be no more cities inshallah
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We will disperse cities into the suburbs and the rural areas and turn them all into suburbs that are almost cities but not cities
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so everything is within ≤20 minute walking distance from everyone's house
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everyone will have a yard, even just a small yard
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it'll be perfect.
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some day.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/18/2023 11:47 PM
Here suburbs kinda work since everything is so fucking small
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but then again traffic is fucking horrible
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america was built on great railways that the great car conglomerates took from you
Every railroad tie you roll over on a train is the life of someone capitalists exploited to death, or killed to build their empires.
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There are a lot of railroad ties in our rail network.
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MisterStompy 3/19/2023 11:20 AM
Supporters of Donald Trump said Ron DeSantis should prevent the arrest of the ex-president by any means necessary on Saturday. The post ‘Send The Florida National Guard To Mar-a-Lago’: MAGA Demands DeSantis Defy Any Trump Arrest By Force first appeared on Mediaite.
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Not happening, First of Ron Desantis is an invertebrate. Also, he despises T****.
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Not happening, First of Ron Desantis is an invertebrate. Also, he despises T****.
I would hope DeSatan would know that would be a losing proposition. If he did that, they would send an FBI tac squad... who are usually recruited from, and trained as well as any of our special forces. No Florida Man with a NG uniform is gonna do shit but let them pass or die.
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Yep it would clear the republican primary field of his biggest opponent.
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Yep it would clear the republican primary field of his biggest opponent.
Also true... Florida Windrip is certainly willing to let chumps die for him... but not to protect his rival. I'm just gonna refer to DeSantis by the fictional character he represents best... "Buzz" Windrip from It Can't Happen Here.
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Yep it would clear the republican primary field of his biggest opponent.
And cost the gop the Maga vote
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/19/2023 11:54 PM
The Gideon v. Wainwright ruling, which guarantees lawyers for criminal defendants, just turned 60. Justice Clarence Thomas isn’t a fan of the precedent it set.
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I'm not a fan of Clarence Thomas not being handed over to john browners and the black panthers (the og ones, not the new black party. Those guys are assholes)
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/20/2023 11:46 AM
Steel barricades arriving outside Manhattan Criminal Court @CBSNews
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/20/2023 12:12 PM
Gov. Ron DeSantis is cracking down on drag shows around the state, including a ‘Drag Queen Christmas’ event where undercover officers said no ‘lewd acts’ took place.
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wait the FEDS GOT INVOLVED
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Yeah, turns out acting like a dictator gets the doj involved, you know, due to civil liberties.
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well duh
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but the fact they revealed they've been watching DeSatan
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sorry for the twitter link but
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Trump basically calling on NYPD not to do their job. We shouldn't underestimate the extent to which Trump and MAGA are going to try to undermine the law-abidingness of law enforcement in the U.S. over the next year and a half.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/20/2023 3:42 PM
Every time I hear "Soros-backed", I know the person saying it is a nazi.
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but for real
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its like
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really fucking obvious
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/20/2023 3:59 PM
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/20/2023 4:48 PM
unsurprising
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And he lost the Maga vote
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This is gonna be ugly, one way or another
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MisterStompy 3/20/2023 7:30 PM
"I have no idea about paying off a pornsta-" "YEAH WELL YOU'RE GAY YOU FUCKING GROOMER" https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-goes-scorched-earth-on-desantis-raises-questions-about-his-sexuality-and-peddles-groomer-smear/
Donald Trump reacted to Ron DeSantis' comments on his upcoming potential indictment by once again raising "groomer" insinuations against the Florida governor.
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Seriously a debate between these two would just be nonstop verbal abuse from Trump and he'd just stand there and take it while trying to look unbothered.
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"Now onto the confusion about my stance on Medicai-" "I KNOW WHAT YOUR STANCE IS ON GIVING MEN BLOWJOBS, MEATBALL."
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/20/2023 7:59 PM
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Fascist activists are seeking to exploit a fracture on the left over the war in Ukraine to grow their movement.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/21/2023 12:43 AM
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to be fair, I hate to say it, but we gotta be sus of anti-war folk for a bit
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/21/2023 12:55 AM
Esp because “anti-war” really means “pro-russia” 4/5 times
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Esp because “anti-war” really means “pro-russia” 4/5 times
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 3/21/2023 1:04 AM
I really wish I didn't have to be pro-war, but if it means kicking in Fascists, then I'm down with a good war
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/21/2023 1:47 AM
By Nicholas Confessore and Katie Robertson
The producer, Abby Grossberg, said in a pair of lawsuits that the effort to place blame on her and Maria Bartiromo, the Fox Business host, was rooted in rampant misogyny and discrimination at the company.
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to the surprise of no political female or female presenting
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BubsyFanboy 3/21/2023 5:37 AM
I mean, the various Soviet and Russian flags, Unite The Right chairman, Z-labeled backpacks and post-MC takeover LPUSA chairman being there should've raised many red flags to begin with.
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MisterStompy 3/21/2023 7:19 PM
Things are developing pretty much exactly how I was hoping they would. https://twitter.com/DylanBurns1776/status/1638316747101970432
The MAGA Jihad against Ron DeSantis has begun
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MisterStompy
Things are developing pretty much exactly how I was hoping they would. https://twitter.com/DylanBurns1776/status/1638316747101970432
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Things are developing pretty much exactly how I was hoping they would. https://twitter.com/DylanBurns1776/status/1638316747101970432
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/21/2023 10:04 PM
On a scale of 1-10 how bad is Erdogan? from an uninformed viewpoint, it looks to be like a 7-8 from what I can see
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/21/2023 10:34 PM
he's an actual fascist
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/21/2023 10:41 PM
LINCOLN, Neb. (AP) — Debate that began Tuesday on a Nebraska bill to ban gender-affirming care for minors, which led one lawmaker to stage an epic weekslong filibuster, quickly grew contentious, with supporters and opponents angrily voicing their frustration and admonishing each other for a lack of collegiality.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
he's an actual fascist
AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/21/2023 10:44 PM
Short and concise, thank you
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
he's an actual fascist
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/21/2023 10:46 PM
LMAO
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MisterStompy 3/21/2023 11:17 PM
yeaaaah he ain't making it past the primaries https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1638370484961067009
DESANTIS: "I don't know how to spell 'Desanctimonious,' I don't really know what it means ... You can call me whatever you want, I mean, just as long as you, you know, also call me a winner" https://t.co/zGiy7Oxpcb
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Still, mock him and plan for his fascist bullshit
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Things are developing pretty much exactly how I was hoping they would. https://twitter.com/DylanBurns1776/status/1638316747101970432
This means MAGA has to start opposing all of DeSatans political movements right? Trump's narcissism being the key to moving MAGA left was not on my Bingo card.
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IT WAS IN MINE
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/22/2023 2:10 AM
The far-right White Nationalist movement, funded by powerful billionaire families that want to turn the United States into a fascist theocracy, is making progress in its efforts to erase the ugly p…
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that's it
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Iowa goes first
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/22/2023 4:08 AM
The former Florida lawmaker who sponsored the controversial law critics call “Don’t Say Gay” pleaded guilty Tuesday to committing $150,000 in COVID-19 relief...
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MisterStompy 3/22/2023 1:14 PM
Because he's a fucking wimp. Like that video I posted of him very nerviously laughing at his own "call me a winner" joke. Look up ANY debate footage of him and he's meek and terrified of having to talk to anybody who disagrees with him. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-is-ron-desantis-slipping-in-the-polls/ar-AA18W6mY?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=db2734e850cc44cfa366da64e0232295&ei=17
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If he does manage to get the nomination, all Biden has to do during the debate is say "Will you shut up, man?" and immediately he'll curl up like a baby on the floor. DeSantis just isn't built for this. (edited)
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Allegedly Human 3/22/2023 1:52 PM
I'd pay to see that
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Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg's office has "canceled" the grand jury meeting Wednesday as part of the investigation into former President Trump, two sources said.
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I don't trust like that
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that's the face of a woman who realize she's gonna need to flee the country soon
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/22/2023 3:34 PM
mhm
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Rwanda, anyone?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/22/2023 6:37 PM
Holy shit crowder
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Seriously a debate between these two would just be nonstop verbal abuse from Trump and he'd just stand there and take it while trying to look unbothered.
imagine GOP primary debate where Trump is speaking on the phone from a prison cell
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I really wish I didn't have to be pro-war, but if it means kicking in Fascists, then I'm down with a good war
The "anti-war" people who are complaining about arming Ukraine are either idiots or liars. Anyone actually pro-peace and anti-war should realize that failing to punish Putin for his actions in Ukraine will signal a new era of wars started by totalitarian dictatorships. This war ending in a Russian victory does not mean "peace"; it means the beginning of the next war somewhere else.
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Aggressors must be stopped before they can begin new wars.
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Supporting the arming of Ukraine in this war does not make you "pro-war". It makes you against aggression.
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Aggression is the disease, war is the symptom. (edited)
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 3/22/2023 8:21 PM
Very true
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I absolutely love the German Greens right now
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reputation for being full of "pacifists", but they've been the most vocal within the German government for arming Ukraine
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/22/2023 8:44 PM
pacifists annoy me to hell and back
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
pacifists annoy me to hell and back
Same
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
pacifists annoy me to hell and back
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/22/2023 8:56 PM
I get not wanting to resort to violence but there are times when violence is, regrettably, necessary.
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You may not want to harm others but that doesn't necessarily mean others don't want to harm you.
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As the LGBTQ+ community can attest.
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The "anti-war" people who are complaining about arming Ukraine are either idiots or liars. Anyone actually pro-peace and anti-war should realize that failing to punish Putin for his actions in Ukraine will signal a new era of wars started by totalitarian dictatorships. This war ending in a Russian victory does not mean "peace"; it means the beginning of the next war somewhere else.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/22/2023 9:05 PM
When you find people like them, send them this picture, i think you know what to do with it(thats chamberlain)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/22/2023 9:17 PM
More like Chamberlame.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/22/2023 9:30 PM
I have a deep hatred towards chamberlain 💖
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/22/2023 9:37 PM
i’ve literally called someone chamberlain before lmao, it worked to change their mind surprisingly
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MisterStompy
If he does manage to get the nomination, all Biden has to do during the debate is say "Will you shut up, man?" and immediately he'll curl up like a baby on the floor. DeSantis just isn't built for this. (edited)
If Biden can manage that. He's so far gone a large percentage of the time that it would be the shortest presidency in history before they pulled him.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
As the LGBTQ+ community can attest.
And every minority in this country, as well as every indigenous person in virtually every nation.
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Yet another expose of FBI cointelpro operations during the 2020 protests just dropped. The UC actively tried to engage leftists in a gun running operation... among other attempts to act as an agent provocateur. Yet more proof our federal government is actively fascist. https://twitter.com/theintercept/status/1638120094801747971?s=20 (edited)
The FBI used an undercover cop with pink hair to spy on activists and manufacture crimes https://t.co/BvwptwtL1v by @trevoraaronson
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/23/2023 3:30 AM
In the letters, Jordan asserted that the schools may have contributed to the Biden administration’s “censorship regime by advising on so-called misinformation.”
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Yet another expose of FBI cointelpro operations during the 2020 protests just dropped. The UC actively tried to engage leftists in a gun running operation... among other attempts to act as an agent provocateur. Yet more proof our federal government is actively fascist. https://twitter.com/theintercept/status/1638120094801747971?s=20 (edited)
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/23/2023 4:05 AM
Even with the psychopath that was J. Edgar Hoover gone, the FBI continues to remind us whose brainchild it was.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/23/2023 7:04 AM
Is anybody remotely aurprised?
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Allegedly Human 3/23/2023 9:07 AM
Not at all 😕
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Black Magic 3/23/2023 11:47 AM
Bush strikes me as a man that knows he’s going to hell.
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So there’s that
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Bush strikes me as a man that knows he’s going to hell.
I agree, I think he's dumb as dogshit, but also aware enough to know he's got thousands of gallons of blood on his hands.
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Allegedly Human 3/23/2023 1:15 PM
I wonder if he thinks his painting was his way of washing the blood off
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I wonder if he thinks his painting was his way of washing the blood off
Naw, I don't think he's that delusional yet. I think it hit him in the last year of his term and he's suffering silently in the hell of his master's makings. I'm pretty sure he also is coming to terms with the fact that he was just a pawn of his father and his father's owners.
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Not to say I feel bad for him, if he was stupid enough to be manipulated by them it's his own doing and he deserves all the hell he gets.
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Now if he came out and apologized to all of the vets he sent off to kill for his masters... that would be awesome. But just like me, he gets to suffer his sins regardless.
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Allegedly Human 3/23/2023 1:24 PM
I would have a lot of respect if he did apologize, but everything he does publicly does have that veneer of polish on it.
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I would have a lot of respect if he did apologize, but everything he does publicly does have that veneer of polish on it.
There is a reason oligarchs pick their pawns... it's for their ability to shut up and present the oligarchs interests with sincerity. "We 'have to' charge combat vets 250 bucks per visit to the VA if the visit isn't directly related to their service connected disability... it's the only way we can keep the VA alive." Okay but why are you 400 billion over budget on a Chinese knockoff version of the F-22? "Costs are high I'll grant, but it's necessary for the security of our nation."
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Allegedly Human 3/23/2023 1:31 PM
ah, the lovely VA
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the one in Tulsa has newsmax on half its tvs
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So why did you authorize our forces to go in and murder civilians on intentionally drummed up evidence? "We made the best decision based on the information we had at the time."
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Dealing with the VA is my hell for taking a life I shouldn't have been in a position to have to take. I'm sure of it.
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It's not fucking bad enough that I have to see his terrified eyes every night... nope... let's toss in dealing with the VA as a kicker.
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Allegedly Human 3/23/2023 1:35 PM
I can't imagine what that's like, I am so sorry you have to deal with that
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/23/2023 1:36 PM
My father worked for the VA for a few years, it fucking destroyed him both with overworking and morally with how screwed up everything was. He changed jobs and it was like a switch flipped, it’s such a fucked up organization both for those working for it and using it
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Allegedly Human 3/23/2023 1:38 PM
I've had a lot of luck and disappointment regarding my VA experience, I suppose that's luckier than most
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I suspect a couple of my breakdown moments in a VA hospital caused the workers there who wanted to help but couldn't some of that kind of trauma.
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Allegedly Human
I've had a lot of luck and disappointment regarding my VA experience, I suppose that's luckier than most
I'm giving it another go... with the help of a county Veterans rep... and the PACT act... My knees are supposed to be service connected, but virtually all the rest of my shit is either PTSD or Gulf War Illness related. Aside from tinnitus... but is there a veteran that doesn't have that?
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Allegedly Human 3/23/2023 1:43 PM
I didn't claim tinnitus, oddly enough. I didn't get that one documented before getting out. It was literally two weeks between deciding and bouncing out of the corps.
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My TMJ evaluation is a hilarious anecdote though 🤣
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I didn't claim tinnitus, oddly enough. I didn't get that one documented before getting out. It was literally two weeks between deciding and bouncing out of the corps.
I didn't even know what tinnitus was till I'd been out 20 years... I just assumed everyone had a tube style TV on static channel in their head. I joked that I could hear my brain cooking itself... I didn't get it that the stares people gave me when I said that meant they didn't know what I was talking about. (edited)
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My TMJ evaluation is a hilarious anecdote though 🤣
Do tell!
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Allegedly Human 3/23/2023 1:49 PM
My right jaw clicks very loudly, dentist said, "yep, you've got TMJ for sure." pretty quick eval and his assistant starts gathering their tools to wrap up. The dentist then asks if this affects my ability to work. I reply, "well I won't have a very fulfilling career as a call girl" and the assistant drops a tool and starts laughing.
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My right jaw clicks very loudly, dentist said, "yep, you've got TMJ for sure." pretty quick eval and his assistant starts gathering their tools to wrap up. The dentist then asks if this affects my ability to work. I reply, "well I won't have a very fulfilling career as a call girl" and the assistant drops a tool and starts laughing.
I'd have come up with that one... but like an hour later. Bravo Zulu.
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You musta ate the green crayola that day. (edited)
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Allegedly Human 3/23/2023 1:51 PM
thank you! it's rare when I can have a good reply hit the mark
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thank you! it's rare when I can have a good reply hit the mark
Felt.
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Resisting the urge to rip tankies a new asshole as they come after veterans. Don't they know the only reason the communist revolution in Russia worked was because they had hundreds of thousands of combat veterans leading the fight?
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Resisting the urge to rip tankies a new asshole as they come after veterans. Don't they know the only reason the communist revolution in Russia worked was because they had hundreds of thousands of combat veterans leading the fight?
Not only that, but they were far more unified and competent than the whites. But yea it couldn't have gotten off the ground without the legions of ex-tzarist officers and troops that went "screw it! We're communists now"
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Not only that, but they were far more unified and competent than the whites. But yea it couldn't have gotten off the ground without the legions of ex-tzarist officers and troops that went "screw it! We're communists now"
As if those soldiers didn't do absolutely horrific shit in the service of the Tzar prior to that.
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I get it... really I do... I lived it and carry the scars internal and externally... and the period of time when I was moments away (for years on end) of pushing the 22/day statistic to 23. Bush Sr./Clinton/Bush/Cheney as puppets of the MIC and Oil barons were the hammer, the Kurdish/Kuwaiti massacring Saddam was the anvil, and US soldiers and sailors and Iraqi soldiers/civilians were caught between the two. (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/23/2023 8:27 PM
Former President Donald Trump appeared to mock calls for his supporters to remain "peaceful" as he stares in the face of a potential indictment.
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Allegedly Human 3/23/2023 8:57 PM
Ask me about my lack of surprise
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joe hill’s revenge 3/23/2023 9:50 PM
North Korea and Iran both need nukes. If I was president I’d give the entire USA arsenal to those to states
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North Korea and Iran both need nukes. If I was president I’d give the entire USA arsenal to those to states
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/23/2023 9:54 PM
Please tell me you're joking.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Please tell me you're joking.
joe hill’s revenge 3/23/2023 9:54 PM
Only partly
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They both need nukes
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/23/2023 9:55 PM
No they do not.
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We do not need more tyrannical dictatorships with nukes.
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joe hill’s revenge 3/23/2023 9:56 PM
Nukes are the only garuntee againsg USA backed regime change
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North Korea and Iran both need nukes. If I was president I’d give the entire USA arsenal to those to states
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I'm gonna stop you right the fuck there
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joe hill’s revenge 3/23/2023 9:57 PM
If saddam and gadaffi had nukes those countries wouldn’t be in shambles now
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Isis wouldn’t exist if saddam had nukes
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I will not elaborate further
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/23/2023 9:57 PM
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Tankie trash.
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One, North Korea has committed numerous war crimes and has, often, threatened to the same to South Korea if given the chance this includes shit like rape, killing entire generations, and starvation/possibly forced cannibalism
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/23/2023 9:58 PM
Saddam and Gadaffi also did several of those things.
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Two, Iran rn is dealing with a massive protest-turned defacto violent revolution/in fighting because the population was being abused by the previous regimes and they've had enough of their bullshit and likewise, also committed human rights violations. (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/23/2023 10:00 PM
Just because I find the US's "foreign policy" highly questionable does NOT mean I'm going to start simping for dictators.
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likewise, I think the US foreign policy can be hot garbage, but I ain't tolerating no tankie shit
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and I'm a hardcore dem socialist
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/23/2023 10:01 PM
As am I.
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Take your tankie bullshit somewhere else.
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joe hill’s revenge 3/23/2023 10:04 PM
Bro if the USA has nukes, I don’t see how u can argue that countries targeted by the USA can’t have them. I don’t simp fir either country but a USA backed regime change would be so@much worse for both nation’s populations
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/23/2023 10:05 PM
Then why do you think giving nukes to psychotic dictators is a good idea?
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Fascist is Fascist
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/23/2023 10:05 PM
No one should have nukes. Period.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/23/2023 10:05 PM
we seriously need total nuclear dearmament
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while pushing for nuclear energy
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tbh will never happen, not openly at least
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/23/2023 10:06 PM
Sadly.
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But nuclear proliferation is even worse.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/23/2023 10:06 PM
yep
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we can at least contain it
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the idea isn't bad, but it won't happen because there are valid arguments against it
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/23/2023 10:07 PM
fair
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why risk disarming yourself if your political enemy likely will lie?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/23/2023 10:07 PM
This
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/23/2023 10:07 PM
While idealistic/utopian ideas are unachievable in nature we should strife to at least come close to it
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I do, however, think trying to prevent more out there, IS valid
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but GIVING TWO FASCIST COUNTRIES NUKES IS A BAD FUCKING IDEA
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/23/2023 10:10 PM
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but really
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out of all the countries, Iran and North Korea are worse to have nukes
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bad enough Russia and china have them
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we don't need those two either
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joe hill’s revenge
If saddam and gadaffi had nukes those countries wouldn’t be in shambles now
Gaddafi? Our airstrikes helped the rebels, but nukes wouldn't have stopped the rebellion either
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You can't stop coups and internal rebellions with nuclear weapons. Only foreign invasions and possibly foreign interventions
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joe hill’s revenge
Nukes are the only garuntee againsg USA backed regime change
The US hasn't been able to overthrow Iran yet and it's been over 40 years. Even so, nukes can only prevent invasion and direct intervention, as I said
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Couldn't do anything to North Korea too and they didn't have nukes till the '90s iirc
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We would've completely defeated them in 1950-51 if it weren't for the Chinese though
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Sorry if I tagged you in those messages btw. Discord been glitching like a mf recently and I can't select whether or not to tag people when I reply to messages
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At least not most of the time
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I love people making assumptions about historical events without A: Living through them. Or B: doing a shred of research on the subject. "Iraq is in shambles, we never should have ousted Saddam." I'll bet the Kurds his sons were massacring are happy he's gone.
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Like for real, every dictator who has ever lived has had a middle class who benefitted from their regime... and those are the voices calling out against regime changes. We did absolutely do a lot of fucking horrible things, here and abroad... no doubt. And hindsight shows we could have done a lot better in a lot of cases.
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Give fucking nukes to a powermad dictator hell bent on taking over their neighbor at all costs... are you fucking kidding me?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/24/2023 1:27 AM
With a son even more psychotic than he is to boot.
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South Korea is toxic as fuck, particularly towards women and LGBTQIA folks... but do they deserve to become a nuclear fucking wasteland?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/24/2023 1:27 AM
Fuck no
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With a son even more psychotic than he is to boot.
Wait that fucking chode managed to knock someone up when I wasn't paying attention? (edited)
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Wait that fucking chode managed to knock someone up when I wasn't paying attention? (edited)
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/24/2023 1:28 AM
Uday Saddam Hussein (Arabic: عدي صدام حسين; 18 June 1964 – 22 July 2003) was an Iraqi politician and the eldest son of Saddam Hussein. He held numerous positions as a sports chairman, military officer and businessman, and was the head of the Iraqi Olympic Committee and Iraq Football Association, and head of the Fedayeen Saddam. Uday Hussein was ...
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/24/2023 1:28 AM
Uday Hussein is... a charac- yeah.
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Wait that fucking chode managed to knock someone up when I wasn't paying attention? (edited)
AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/24/2023 1:29 AM
Aren't mad dictarors known for being absolute sex pests?
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it was gonna happen
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/24/2023 1:29 AM
I don't remember exactly what he did, all I know is that he has a rap sheet about a mile long of objectively rephrensible things
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Oh no I was speaking of North Korea... yeah Uday was a fucking mass murdering fuck.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/24/2023 1:29 AM
Ohhh
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/24/2023 1:29 AM
Also they tend to be kid diddlers too(Dictators)
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Oh no I was speaking of North Korea... yeah Uday was a fucking mass murdering fuck.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/24/2023 1:30 AM
Ah, my bad.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/24/2023 1:30 AM
Mao was fucking a 14 year old girl at 60 something
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I don't remember exactly what he did, all I know is that he has a rap sheet about a mile long of objectively rephrensible things
Well, he used Iraqi Republican Guard to rape and massacre Kurds... and participated himself in the festivities.
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Mao was fucking a 14 year old girl at 60 something
Of course he was.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/24/2023 1:31 AM
Yeah, I thought I remembered he did a lot of murder but I didn't want to throw it out there without knowing 100%.
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Yeah, I thought I remembered he did a lot of murder but I didn't want to throw it out there without knowing 100%.
If Uday had gotten a degree in medicine, his experiments would rival both the Japanese and Germans.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/24/2023 1:31 AM
TLDR some motherfuckers out there need to be deposed but we must know how to make those places better too
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/24/2023 1:31 AM
Uday was so insane that even his dad thought he was too much and forbade him from taking the throne should he die. (edited)
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That should tell you something.
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Uday was so insane that even his dad thought he was too much and forbade him from taking the throne should he die. (edited)
But kept him around to do the dirty work.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/24/2023 1:32 AM
True.
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TLDR some motherfuckers out there need to be deposed but we must know how to make those places better too
Yeah, and it's not the US's responsibility to do it... but sometimes it needs doing. Not the way we did it in Iraq... particularly not by drumming up support for it by openly lying to the people and manufacturing false evidence... but yeah sometimes you just gotta kill a motherfucker.
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Black Magic 3/24/2023 2:40 AM
America is not perfect. It is very far from perfect.
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Some of our greatest strengths are linked to our weaknesses
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The same free press and irreverent culture that resists Putin like figures; also lead in part to the modern gop
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Our first amendment might be the most assertive in legal terms in the world… it gave us the Jewish space laser lady.
2:45 AM
To some extent you take the bad with the good. You should note this is not a argument for complacency, just a point of fact I think.
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Oh no I was speaking of North Korea... yeah Uday was a fucking mass murdering fuck.
AvoidOblivion 3/24/2023 9:11 AM
Kim Ju-ae (Korean: 김주애; born c. 2012–2013) is the daughter of North Korean supreme leader Kim Jong-un and his wife Ri Sol-ju.
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Bro if the USA has nukes, I don’t see how u can argue that countries targeted by the USA can’t have them. I don’t simp fir either country but a USA backed regime change would be so@much worse for both nation’s populations
MisterStompy 3/24/2023 9:34 AM
If the United States was "targetting" Iran right now, there wouldn't be an Iran right now.
9:36 AM
I don't think you quite fathom how hilariously powerful the US military is. Literally nobody could stop us if we were serious about Pax Americana.
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MisterStompy 3/24/2023 9:52 AM
BREAKING: Biden blocks Turkey and Hungary from attending its upcoming Summit for Democracy https://t.co/v2ldhhiBtH
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big things happening in turkey
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presidential elections are soon
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a turkish islamist candidate is standing down in favour of erdogan
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the leftist, pro kurd alliance meanwhile is also standing down, and while they havent given official support its obvious they do it in favour of the anti-erdogan candidate
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erdogan is currently behind in the polls
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BubsyFanboy 3/24/2023 10:41 AM
https://tvn24.pl/polska/youtuber-casey-neistat-w-polsce-polska-fundacja-narodowa-podala-koszt-wizyty-6857327 [Polish article] In 2018 the Polish government spent 1,1 million PLN (1,497426 PLN or 320400 EUR in today's money) to... fund Casey Neistat's vlog.
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Azerbaijan's Ministry of Defence says that Armenian forces have opened fire on Azeri troops on the Azerbaijan-Armenia "conditional border" and in Karabakh this evening
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I'm pretty sure Iraq is better now than it was in 2002 anyways. I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's recovered from the US invasion and civil wars so far (edited)
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If the United States was "targetting" Iran right now, there wouldn't be an Iran right now.
We are undoubtedly targeting Iran, but we are not doing nearly as much as we could be doing (which is a good thing imo)
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AvoidOblivion 3/24/2023 5:41 PM
From u/_Abe_Froman_SKOC:
People become cops because they want to exploit the poor and the vulnerable. People join the military because they don't think they have any other option. The brass at the top of the pile and a majority of the officer corp of the military are all fuck faces, but the regular person from Bumfuck South Dakota that joined up to get away from their methhead stepdaddy are not your enemy. They are victims of our society because a "volunteer" force only works if you can make people desperate enough to join up. There is a distinct difference between being a state agent of violence and cannon fodder.
5:43 PM
This misses the fact that many soldiers in the military are closing in on far-Right or are already far-Right. Yes, most of those who join are doing so out of desperation, or for something to do with their lives (take every veteran in here as an example), but the military is filled with far-Right assholes, some branches more than others.
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This misses the fact that many soldiers in the military are closing in on far-Right or are already far-Right. Yes, most of those who join are doing so out of desperation, or for something to do with their lives (take every veteran in here as an example), but the military is filled with far-Right assholes, some branches more than others.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/24/2023 5:45 PM
True, but this person is saying ALL vets are war criminals and quoting an infamous tankie to do so.
5:47 PM
And judging by the fact that they themselves support Russia's invasion because "US imperialism" and "Ukraine is full of nazis", it's safe to classify this guy as a tankie.
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MisterStompy 3/24/2023 6:05 PM
If this guy thinks he's gonna be pulling off an armed revolution without any help from combat veterans he's very sorely mistaken. Seems like every tankie out there has the same fallacy in their heads that the US military went soft because of gay people or something. No, the nonbinary Abrams crew will be just as effective as a completely cisgender Abrams crew.
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Also their whole refolushion is just as destined to fail as any far right one. Both tankies and fascists very rarely use their firearms outsidce of secured indoor gun ranges. Hitting a moving target for them is gonna be a huge challenge, and a moving target that fires back? Yeah, they're fucked.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
True, but this person is saying ALL vets are war criminals and quoting an infamous tankie to do so.
AvoidOblivion 3/24/2023 6:07 PM
Just to be clear, we are calling the Twitter user a tankie, correct? I want to make sure we’re on the same page before delving further into this.
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Just to be clear, we are calling the Twitter user a tankie, correct? I want to make sure we’re on the same page before delving further into this.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/24/2023 6:07 PM
Both the Twitter user and the guy posting his stuff.
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MisterStompy 3/24/2023 6:07 PM
Those who are eager for mass violence are 99% of the time the first ones to get pasted when the mass violence actually starts.
6:08 PM
Also this comment was funny
The guy who repairs humvees does not have the same political aspersions and goals as Henry Kissinger.
Yeah, tankies like him now, so maybe not the best example to use.
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Both the Twitter user and the guy posting his stuff.
AvoidOblivion 3/24/2023 6:09 PM
Ok good, we’re on the same page. I completely agree with you. Claiming that all war vets are war criminals is disgusting and flat-out wrong.
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MisterStompy 3/24/2023 6:12 PM
Yeah I'm thinking the grunt who carried an M249 at Fallujah is a bit more competent than the fucking nerd who signs his reddit comments with his online handle.
6:12 PM
This whole conversation just REEKS of right wing media influencers who say "well if the Taliban beat the Army then so can we!"
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Literal horseshoe theory lmao
6:13 PM
And for the record, neither the Vietcong nor the Taliban "beat" the US Military. Both of them waited until the Americans were leaving to start another invasion because they kept getting their shit pushed in when the countries were occupied by US troops.
6:15 PM
Also your average western leftist is not the fucking Vietcong. They don't know what it's like to sit in a jungle for like six hours straight waiting for a Marine patrol to walk by. Same thing with right wingers who compare themselves to the Taliban. You're not a grizzled desert warlord. The minute you lose access to the internet is the minute you surrender lmao.
6:15 PM
If you're trying to fight the US Military in the United States, you can't wait for the yankees to run home because they're already home.
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Black Magic 3/24/2023 7:01 PM
There is a difference between a political victory and a military victory
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a Military victory is when the opponent's ability to resist is effectively eliminated. A political victory is when you get what you wanted form the war.
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As we all know in 2023. One is not a gatuntee of the other
7:04 PM
You can blast the enemy back into the stone age; but if their repsonse is to pick up sticks and stones at some point you just have to admit your options are to give up or glass the place.
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In Afghanistan. The British Tried ruling it.. that didn't work
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The Soviets tried hearts and minds; and when that din't work, they tried to glass it.
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Than the Americans tried to nation build
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now the Chinese are trying hearts and minds.
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Black Magic 3/24/2023 7:34 PM
As for fighting at home
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If shit went sideways; there's a number of scenarios where rebellions could make some sense.
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The most likely scenario is one where the Federal government becomes permanently deadlocked and incapable of functioning on a day to day basis.
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If the wheels of beaucracy stop turning in earnest; we're one good whammy of a disaster away from shit just breaking down.
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Currently, those wheels are grinding. But they're still turning
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If the federal government DOES break down to the point of not functioning in day-to-day tasks the last body still functioning would be the military. Whaat would the results of that be? who knows
7:42 PM
A Junta is not an optimal outcome.
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U.S. Military though would continue to operate for some time as a global force even if the U.S. it self was turned into a radioactive hellscape.
7:43 PM
it's kind of designed to do that.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
SRA in general always has had one.
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Also your average western leftist is not the fucking Vietcong. They don't know what it's like to sit in a jungle for like six hours straight waiting for a Marine patrol to walk by. Same thing with right wingers who compare themselves to the Taliban. You're not a grizzled desert warlord. The minute you lose access to the internet is the minute you surrender lmao.
This is actually a really critical skill that is part of combat training. Being able to wait for the right moment to strike and remain absolutely fucking quiet. And sitting on your ass at base waiting for the green light on an op without rushing off to do something else you think is a better use of your time. These fucks won't stand a chance.
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That said, they can fuck up civilians pretty fucking good if they set their minds to it. Portland OR and KCMO are great examples of places where minority and poor folks are fubar if right wing decide to act, a couple million people could be starved to death in a couple weeks with just a few thousand right wingers stopping transportation of food to certain neighborhoods. Their police are corrupted as fuck and would support the insurrectionists.
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And it's not just a simple give an order to send troops in to a place. Marines and Navy can operate on US soil, but Army can't unless against a declared war against a nation that has invaded.
8:34 PM
It'll take weeks of stagnation in Congress for commanders to take initiative to go after insurrectionists. Though some special forces units will already be infiltrating those insurrectionists and non-tankie leftist groups alike within days.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/24/2023 8:51 PM
the green berets would probably have a field day/year in such a scenario
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SRA in general always has had one.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/24/2023 8:58 PM
Wish I wasn't surprised.
9:36 PM
Could've had the Patton-Eisenhower-Bradley junta
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Or the Patton-MacArthur junta. Could've taken Berlin and nuked Moscow but noooo "we can't win a war like that," "that's too dangerous," blah blah blah said Truman
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/24/2023 10:11 PM
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you concern me sometimes
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you concern me sometimes
AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/24/2023 10:22 PM
we all let out our Inner schizo from time to time
10:22 PM
No shame in it
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Sometimes I think "maybe I should put /j or /s in my joke comments so people know it's a joke" and then I think "nah that's stupid, people should be able to tell" and then I think some more and realize that it's probably not the case
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especially for new people and people who just don't know me well enough and whatnot
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/24/2023 11:05 PM
lol
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Sometimes I think "maybe I should put /j or /s in my joke comments so people know it's a joke" and then I think "nah that's stupid, people should be able to tell" and then I think some more and realize that it's probably not the case
floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/25/2023 12:27 AM
i’ve heard enough stupid shit be serious on the internet that i straight up cant tell anymore lmao, sorry
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/25/2023 1:39 AM
"No one in the world cares less about being petty than me. I don't care. I don't like you," said Sen. Megan Hunt.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/25/2023 2:06 AM
And of course I get banned for calling out tankies.
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And of course I get banned for calling out tankies.
Once upon a time the SRA had a Member Welfare Chairperson. Member Welfare was an investigative body where each and every investigator's findings went through the Chair before they were sent on to the Chairperson committee. This individual was a full blown Maoist... his right hand dude... also a Maoist. I'll tell you an anecdote about these two. Our chapter had a camping trip, I had to arrive Saturday morning due to work. I brought with me breakfast for 20 people for two days. I arrived before anyone was awake, and started cooking breakfast for everyone. After breakfast we all went to a nearby range to shoot. The Right hand dude, asked me for a ride to the range... after he ate my breakfast. Then proceeded to tell me (knowing I'm an anarchist) while in my car transporting him and his gun to the range, after eating my breakfast... that he thinks Stalin and Mao were right to condone and facilitate the massacre of anarchists because "Anarchists never do anything for their comrades."
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Then they proceeded to attempt to have me kicked from the chapter and SRA for "sectarian antagonism", because while we were making dinner that evening... I was asked to explain why I don't like Marxist Leninism, and I outlined all my concerns with it. But that was inciting division in their eyes.
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Now those two were removed from the org eventually for abuse of authority. But then the org refused to release financial records (as required by law)... among plenty of other things. When I left for good, they were still bleeding whole chapters, and hadn't done anything to address real shitheads in the org, or update their financials.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/25/2023 2:58 AM
You know, Morbid and I were having a convo as to why there's a noticeable amount of anarchists in AIF and the answer I posited was that alot of other leftist groups don't really like them courtesy of the tankies in them. Starting to think I was right.
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I tried doing the things lefties wanted me to do, like working with giant authoritarian umbrella orgs. It always ends the same... they filch hundreds of thousands of dollars from folks and only ever use it to pay the people at the top.
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You know, Morbid and I were having a convo as to why there's a noticeable amount of anarchists in AIF and the answer I posited was that alot of other leftist groups don't really like them courtesy of the tankies in them. Starting to think I was right.
Tankies are the universal self cointelpro op. They ALWAYS infect an org and divide it.
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I tried doing the things lefties wanted me to do, like working with giant authoritarian umbrella orgs. It always ends the same... they filch hundreds of thousands of dollars from folks and only ever use it to pay the people at the top.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/25/2023 2:59 AM
Just like the "communists" they worship.
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Oh yeah... absolutely. And they always seem to think they will be one of the ones at the top, and act with that authority before they've ever gained it. Because they are strong in the dialectical materialism... which in short is really just a fancy way of deciding what minutia of fact you want to cherry pick at the moment to prove your position on the data is correct, regardless of what the other data points say. (edited)
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The best part is, they tag team. If one person gets fucked in a debate they started, another tankie comes in to take a tiny fraction of what you said out of context and deflect the topic from that to the little nitpick they found. It extends to extremes though... One person gets kicked from being a dick, another one who passively supported the dick starts picking apart the decision to kick the dick and try to bully, or cult of personality other people onto their side. And these are just part of their incredibly successful Counter Intelligence tactics... I could write a paper on the subject.
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Who needs the FBI to ruin leftist orgs when you've got tankies. (edited)
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The best part is, they tag team. If one person gets fucked in a debate they started, another tankie comes in to take a tiny fraction of what you said out of context and deflect the topic from that to the little nitpick they found. It extends to extremes though... One person gets kicked from being a dick, another one who passively supported the dick starts picking apart the decision to kick the dick and try to bully, or cult of personality other people onto their side. And these are just part of their incredibly successful Counter Intelligence tactics... I could write a paper on the subject.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/25/2023 3:06 AM
Exhibit A:
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You don't debate tankies for the same reason you don't debate conservatives. It's always in bad faith.
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Same reason you don't debate capitalists.
3:08 AM
It's really just best not to debate I think. I'd rather do, and let people decide if the doing benefits them.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/25/2023 3:09 AM
I forget who said it, but someone described debating as "the intellectual equivalent of WWE".
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
I forget who said it, but someone described debating as "the intellectual equivalent of WWE".
That's about white.
3:19 AM
Err... I mean right... really.
3:19 AM
But for real, you know what most tankies, conservatives, and capitalists have in common? They are white.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/25/2023 3:21 AM
And/or astoundingly privileged. (edited)
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But for real, you know what most tankies, conservatives, and capitalists have in common? They are white.
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Now that I think about it, I haven't met a tankie who wasn't White. I know a few conservatives who aren't, but not tankies
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
And/or astoundingly privileged. (edited)
Tokenism. It's an incredibly powerful tool of all three to pretend they aren't racist.
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Now that I think about it, I haven't met a tankie who wasn't White. I know a few conservatives who aren't, but not tankies
Again tokenism, particularly among conservatives/capitalists. They allow "the right" minorities into the club to "prove" the system isn't racist.
11:31 AM
"the right" can also be "the white" minorities. You'll notice that in nearly all cases of wealthy black conservatives, they are all whitewashed as fuck.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/25/2023 11:49 AM
it’s the “but i have a black friend” excuse
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In the past, circa 2016, I was invited by a friend to a neo-nazi Discord server and immediately given the role of "token Asian" or whatever; then I saw that their role in the server, in addition to being a moderator, was "Token K***" because they were Jewish (edited)
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I later got to watch as that friend left the alt-right after coming out as trans and finding their previous political affiliations to be incompatible with their gender identity
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but that was pretty wack to watch
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maybe the role immediately assigned to me after joining that server was actually "token Chink"; I don't really recall (edited)
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that seems more likely, after thinking about it a bit
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That friend seems to have had to detransition for a bit, at least on their public social media, but has now transitioned again, I think.
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MisterStompy 3/25/2023 1:04 PM
I got banned from one server for saying "Oh, you mean the honkycaust?" when somebody was talking about white genocide or some other dumb shit
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Now that I think about it, I haven't met a tankie who wasn't White. I know a few conservatives who aren't, but not tankies
the token minorities that conservatives rely on are often the result of immigration waves of people fleeing Stalinist-style countries, which means these people and their children are less likely to turn into tankies.
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I have a good friend who is also Chinese-American like me, children of immigrants from Mainland China. His relationship with his parents is kind of strained to some extent, and he invited me to a server with his IRL friends, where all his IRL friends are effectively tankies. He was also somewhat influenced by them until around March 2022, where the fracturing of "leftists" on the topic of the war in Ukraine caused him to see tankie idealogy as unaccceptable. (edited)
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1.5 years ago, he was complaining that America demonizes the PRC and CCP in an unreasonable way
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But today, his opinion of the CCP is extremely hostile.
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*All of his IRL tankie friends are white, I think
1:11 PM
Mao and Stalin did horrible things to their people
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To idolize Mao post-revolution, you have to be able to overlook the deaths of 15-55 million Chinese people during the Great Leap Forward.
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This is hard to do if you are also proud of being of Chinese descent.
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This friend of mine still considers himself a leftist, but he wants absolutely nothing to do with anyone who tries to justify Mao's actions past the defeat of the KMT
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Mao, of course, joked that there were still too many Chinese people, even after killing tens of millions of them (edited)
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Chairman Mao: The trade between our two countries at present is very pitiful. It is gradually increasing. You know China is a very poor country. We don’t have much. What we have in excess is women. (Laughter) Dr. Kissinger: There are no quotas for those or tariffs. Chairman Mao: So if you want them we can give a few of those to you, some tens of thousands. (Laughter) Prime Minister Chou: Of course, on a voluntary basis. Chairmain Mao: Let them go to your place. They will create disasters. That way you can lessen our burdens. (Laughter)
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Chairman Mao: Do you want our Chinese women? We can give you ten million. (Laughter, particularly among the women.) Dr. Kissinger: The Chairman is improving his offer. Chairman Mao: By doing so we can let them flood your country with disaster and therefore impair your interests. In our country we have too many women, and they have a way of doing things. They give birth to children and our children are too many. (Laughter) [Page 132] Dr. Kissinger: It is such a novel proposition, we will have to study it. Chairman Mao: You can set up a committee to study the issue. That is how your visit to China is settling the population question. (Laughter) Dr. Kissinger: We will study utilization and allocation. Chairman Mao: If we ask them to go I think they would be willing. Prime Minister Chou: Not necessarily. Chairman Mao: That’s because of their feudal ideas, big nation chauvinism. Dr. Kissinger: We are certainly willing to receive them.
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I got banned from one server for saying "Oh, you mean the honkycaust?" when somebody was talking about white genocide or some other dumb shit
Allegedly Human 3/25/2023 1:39 PM
Note to self - add honkycaust to the vocabulary 🤣
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Chairman Mao: The trade between our two countries at present is very pitiful. It is gradually increasing. You know China is a very poor country. We don’t have much. What we have in excess is women. (Laughter) Dr. Kissinger: There are no quotas for those or tariffs. Chairman Mao: So if you want them we can give a few of those to you, some tens of thousands. (Laughter) Prime Minister Chou: Of course, on a voluntary basis. Chairmain Mao: Let them go to your place. They will create disasters. That way you can lessen our burdens. (Laughter)
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Chairman Mao: Do you want our Chinese women? We can give you ten million. (Laughter, particularly among the women.) Dr. Kissinger: The Chairman is improving his offer. Chairman Mao: By doing so we can let them flood your country with disaster and therefore impair your interests. In our country we have too many women, and they have a way of doing things. They give birth to children and our children are too many. (Laughter) [Page 132] Dr. Kissinger: It is such a novel proposition, we will have to study it. Chairman Mao: You can set up a committee to study the issue. That is how your visit to China is settling the population question. (Laughter) Dr. Kissinger: We will study utilization and allocation. Chairman Mao: If we ask them to go I think they would be willing. Prime Minister Chou: Not necessarily. Chairman Mao: That’s because of their feudal ideas, big nation chauvinism. Dr. Kissinger: We are certainly willing to receive them.
Prime Minister Zhou* I remember reading this though. It was funny cuz of how many times he brought it up
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Prime Minister Zhou* I remember reading this though. It was funny cuz of how many times he brought it up
Yeah, he brings it up again near the very end as they're saying farewell, lmao
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At the time, the US population was around 200 million, so the sudden addition of 10 million Chinese women would've actually been ~5% of the US population
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https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76v18/d12 this is a transcript of talks between Mao and Kissinger
Shortly after, they started selling their girls as young as 10 to Chinese brothel owners in PI and elsewhere.
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To be fair, I'm not sure they "sold" them, I'm sure there facilitated their transfer from their families to the papasans and mamasans. And know for a fact they were turned out as prostitutes as soon their first period came. (edited)
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Some daughters of party leaders got a good education in California schools (went to school with a few dozen who were being groomed to be pop stars)... But otherwise it was human trafficking time.
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Is this in Russia?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/25/2023 7:00 PM
The u.s
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What state @AIF Cuirassier regiment
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/25/2023 7:01 PM
no clue
7:01 PM
probably a red state
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I can't see a license plate anywhere unfortunately, not one readable or discernable at least
7:02 PM
True. Although I live in a blue state and I've seen some pretty crazily decked out Republican cars
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/25/2023 7:02 PM
yeah
7:02 PM
the crazy political stickerbombing knows no sides
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it only knows stupid or annoying people
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I've never seen a Z in person either so far
7:05 PM
Thankfully
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Is there a word for something adjacent to toxic positivity? Toxic mental well being, like can I just be sad or angry for once without people asking what's wrong with me?
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Idk. I think that's just empathy, or something ingrained in us by society, or both
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like I get what you mean, and I usually just don't show that I'm sad or angry if I don't want people bothering me about it, or I lie to them or ask them for privacy. But I don't think it's a "toxic" thing necessarily, just a natural concern for other people's wellbeing
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Sometimes it's probably just people being nosey
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I can't see a license plate anywhere unfortunately, not one readable or discernable at least
36-37 seconds... definitely a European plate.
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36-37 seconds... definitely a European plate.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/26/2023 1:25 AM
Thats surprising
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Thats surprising
They got their fash too.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/26/2023 9:56 AM
Fair
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 3/26/2023 10:51 AM
Not sure if this belongs, and it’s in the UK, but it just makes my blood boil
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/26/2023 10:53 AM
yeah it belongs here
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I wanna do very violent things to them
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Capitalist/Corpo-Fash are just as bad as Christo-fash. Their method of killing undesirable people is just more subtle.
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And who they define as undesirable is slightly different. Arguably Corpo-Fash have a larger group of people they identify as undesirable.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/26/2023 12:34 PM
Literally everyone who isn't at least high middle class? I'm being too generous, probably anyone bellow High class society
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MisterStompy 3/26/2023 1:13 PM
CPI Summit Against Hypocrisy Opening Ceremony!
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/26/2023 1:18 PM
huh
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MisterStompy 3/26/2023 1:25 PM
Musk told Twitter workers about stock grants that value the company at about $20 billion, Platformer reported, far lower than the $44 billion he paid.
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So it's worth like a quarter probably
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MisterStompy 3/26/2023 2:56 PM
Is there gonna be a civil war in Israel soon or am I just looking too deep into this. I've had Jewish friends tell me jokes about how fragile any government in Israel is. Is it just more of the same? https://twitter.com/FridaGhitis/status/1639710739177906178
Israel Defense Minister breaks with Netanyahu. “The rift within our society is widening and penetrating the Israel Defense Forces…This is a clear and immediate and tangible danger to the security of the state. I shall not be a party to this.” https://t.co/Dl6FKzBcwq
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2:58 PM
Apparently he doesn't have majority anymore because 4 Likud guys more or less changed their minds. iirc Likud is pretty right wing, right? Bibi's gotta fuck up bad to lose their support in that case.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/26/2023 3:24 PM
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AvoidOblivion 3/26/2023 3:28 PM
Kentucky Democratic Gov. Andy Beshear on Friday vetoed a Republican-led bill that would prohibit transgender minors from receiving gender-affirming care, such as surgical procedures or the use of certain hormones, bucking against a growing trend of states restricting access to the treatments.
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Is there gonna be a civil war in Israel soon or am I just looking too deep into this. I've had Jewish friends tell me jokes about how fragile any government in Israel is. Is it just more of the same? https://twitter.com/FridaGhitis/status/1639710739177906178
they've had like 4 elections in 5 years
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netanyahu going full on fascist mode to avoid accountability
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netanyahu going full on fascist mode to avoid accountability
MisterStompy 3/26/2023 3:32 PM
So Trump, right? He's just Trump but without the wacky tweets?
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So Trump, right? He's just Trump but without the wacky tweets?
Yes, except he has the legal authority to do so
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The Israeli judicial is very informal, and that's why Netanyahu wants to kill it, because he can and it makes him safe
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If adopted, the reform would grant the Knesset the power to override Supreme Court rulings that deem legislation passed by the Knesset as unconstitutional, by reintroducing the legislation and approving it with a majority of Knesset Members. The reform would additionally diminish the ability of courts to conduct judicial review of the Basic Laws, and change the makeup of the Judicial Selection Committee so that a majority of its members are appointed by the government and effective control over the appointment of judges is given to the government.
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Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu maintains that the reform is necessary because the judiciary has too much control over public policy, and a better balance is needed between democratically elected legislators and the judiciary
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MisterStompy 3/26/2023 3:36 PM
So who are the Likud guys that bailed? Also isn't he Likud?
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MisterStompy 3/26/2023 4:14 PM
most honest British person
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The Home of Israeli Prime Minster Benjamin Netanyahu in the City of Jerusalem is currently being Stormed by Protesters.
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A crowd of demonstrators, consisting of dozens of people, succeeded in reaching #Netanyahu's residence on Gaza Street.
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AvoidOblivion 3/26/2023 4:20 PM
Oh boy.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/26/2023 4:20 PM
holy shit
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MisterStompy 3/26/2023 4:23 PM
#BREAKING Protests outside Netanyahu's house in Jerusalem
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/26/2023 4:24 PM
i'm seeing so many israeli flags that i'm confused though
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who's doing this?
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MisterStompy 3/26/2023 4:25 PM
#BREAKING Israel consul in New York resigns over the judicial coup
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
i'm seeing so many israeli flags that i'm confused though
MisterStompy 3/26/2023 4:26 PM
Anti Netanyahu protesters (edited)
4:27 PM
He fired the defense minister, wonder how the IDF will react
4:28 PM
Their house of parliament is called the Knesset, right?
4:29 PM
Looks like he isn't home, that doesn't mean protesters can't smash all his shit up
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Then breach the Knesset
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All universities in Israel have announced that they are shutting down classes "indefinitely" from tomorrow - Channel 12
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
who's doing this?
israeli people
4:39 PM
they don't all like netanyahu, far from it
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/26/2023 4:39 PM
holy shit, this is serious
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The Israeli Police are using Water Cannons against Protesters in the Capital of Jerusalem in an attempt to push back the Crowds from the Residence of Prime Minister Netanyahu.
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MisterStompy 3/26/2023 4:43 PM
The Israeli Defense Minister Director General, Eyal Zamir who has been meeting with Defense Officials in the United States has just announced that he will be returning back to Israel Immediately.
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BREAKING 🇮🇱 : Likud Party official: "#Netanyahu has lost control" Senior officials in the coalition: "We are in complete shock, the Prime Minister made a mistake"
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MisterStompy 3/26/2023 6:46 PM
How much you wanna bet this guy cheered on the J6ers https://twitter.com/tkdylan/status/1640122720305180674
This is an insurrection led by a left-of-centre mob, aided and abetted by the Israel Defense Forces with the support of the Biden administration, to stop the duly-elected government of Israel from passing a law in the Knesset to reaffirm parliamentary sovereignty. It is shameful.
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AvoidOblivion 3/26/2023 6:47 PM
IDF? Helping out the Left? That sounds impossible considering their track record.
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IDF? Helping out the Left? That sounds impossible considering their track record.
MisterStompy 3/26/2023 6:49 PM
Netanyahu or however you spell his name just fired the defense minister. I imagine that's the reason they're part of the protests.
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It seems that now some police officers are siding with the protests in #Israel right now, including recently fired Tel Aviv superintendent Ami Ashad.
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FUCKING READ THE ROOM, WAIT UNTIL TOMORROW https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1640125440269381642
North Korea has just launched a Ballistic Missile in the direction of the Sea of Japan.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
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Well, I guess Obama could then just kill the motherfucker. You know if any Dem had balls enough to do such a thing.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/26/2023 9:14 PM
Oooh shit
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That’s good, very good
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Damn. Shit is getting rael
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IDF? Helping out the Left? That sounds impossible considering their track record.
The IDF is leftier than the government that's for sure
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A lot of former officers run in centrist parties, famously enough recently Benny Gantz
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A reminder that the far right orthodox jews avoid the army, while the mostly secular mostly leftier kibbutzim are over represented
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That said it wasn't always like it, I think everyone remembers Ariel Sharon, or even Netanyahu's family
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/27/2023 4:25 AM
Also there's a group dedicated to calling out Israel's atrocities that's comprised mostly of IDF vets.
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"Break the Silence" I think it's called?
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UPDATE - The meeting of the heads of Israel's governing coalition is over: Netanyahu is determined to stop the judicial legislation
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The entire country is striking
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Schools to airports
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Kaplan Street in Jerusalem was blocked by the police ahead of the demonstration in front of Israel's parliament at 14:00. Right-wing organizations have announced a demonstration in support of the judicial reform at 18:00.
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The violent far-right fan group of Beitar Jerusalem La Familia has announced that they are going to Tel Aviv at 8PM "We will not give up on the country"
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In any case the government is guaranteed to fall
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Israel PM Netanyahu decides to halt the judicial overhaul: Israeli media
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/27/2023 8:23 PM
The Church of England appears to have inadvertently declared Charles King of France
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He has the rightful claim to it
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Every English King up until 1801 claimed it
9:05 PM
It was part of a peace treaty with napoleon I think wasn't it?
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Maybe
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 3/27/2023 9:06 PM
He has no right to claim it, as France has, rightfully, deposed the Monarchy
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Hm. Maybe because the UK recognizes France
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even when Napoleon was around, they considered him a usurper and his government illegitimate, and claimed that the crown still existed
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 3/27/2023 9:08 PM
I mean like, 1871
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you can always say the crown still exists if you're the rightful pretender to the throne but the monarchy was overthrown
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Yeah
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Idk. I just like long titles and weird claims
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The British royal title has been lacking
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/27/2023 9:10 PM
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Oh no.
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Didn't you post about this already?
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MTG's tweet
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She's blaming hormones and medication for it
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/27/2023 9:12 PM
Yeah, but now FOX is talking about it.
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And the rest of the conservative talking heads are about to pick up on it
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/27/2023 9:12 PM
As is their base.
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Stay safe out there everyone.
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They haven't released the manifesto or any motives yet but they say they have a whole bunch of info that's being prepared
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I don't even think there is a manifesto
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I think Fox is lying about it
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more so then usual
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like actual full on bullshit lying about this
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/27/2023 9:23 PM
would not be surprised
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at all
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It's not a lie
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It's what the police said, not something Fox made up (edited)
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according to other news outlets
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/27/2023 9:59 PM
Surprising, well, we'll have to wait if it gets released or burned
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honestly I preffer Burned or locked away as anything school shooters shouldn't really have any ground to stand on about anything
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Yeah
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I don't think the shooter released it, they just left it at their house for the cops to find
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the other mass shootings with manifestos got spread around cuz the shooter uploaded it first and then did the shooting
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I don't think the shooter released it, they just left it at their house for the cops to find
AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/27/2023 10:08 PM
prolly
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Assuming it is a manifesto Keep in mind, TN been doing a lot of anti-trans shit
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It's what the police said, not something Fox made up (edited)
floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/27/2023 10:32 PM
we all know cops never lie
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/27/2023 10:33 PM
true
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that's my suggestion
11:07 PM
cops have lied
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especially in red states
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/27/2023 11:12 PM
T r u
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There's a reason I think the supposed Manifesto is bullshit
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and if it is, it will be used as a excuse. Time to stone wall them
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in more ways then one, if need to be
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I swear to god Idaho, we will burn you down first
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I swear to god Idaho, we will burn you down first
floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/28/2023 1:48 AM
pleading
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sorry Flop, we gotta burn Idaho
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/28/2023 1:52 AM
not if i do it first
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godspeed, you crazy bastard (/s)
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
we all know cops never lie
That's just tinfoil hatting for the sake of it
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I don't think we need that here
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That's just tinfoil hatting for the sake of it
floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/28/2023 8:27 AM
cops lie so much and so thoroughly that i think it’s a valid thing to keep in consideration tbh
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like in january, we had 3 high-profile police killings and the cops were caught lying in all of them
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ok but that's them covering their ass, not the same thing
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Not necessarily
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That Lynching in Georgia, the DA was lying on behalf of the men responsible until one of their lawyers fucked up bad and the video got released to the net, showing them lying
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The name of the victim unfortunately escapes me
1:12 PM
Cops and DA can lie if they feel they can get away with it
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John Oliver even talked about how common cops lying is
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That Lynching in Georgia, the DA was lying on behalf of the men responsible until one of their lawyers fucked up bad and the video got released to the net, showing them lying
Ahmaud Arbery?
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I was going to say earlier that I hoped bodycam footage would be released
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Lo and behold, it was
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You can see the cops shoot the child murdering bastard
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Ahmaud Arbery?
Yes! Thank you
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That Lynching in Georgia, the DA was lying on behalf of the men responsible until one of their lawyers fucked up bad and the video got released to the net, showing them lying
ok but we're talking about an active shooter that was filmed on live
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i'm not saying "cops not bad" or that they're incapable of doing that
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I am saying that immediately going for "must be a cop plot, can't be real" is tinfoil hatting
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Oh I'm not denying the possibility
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But you ALSO need to factor the state and its anti trans bullshit at the time
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Although who knows with cops given even they're pissed at TN legislation rn
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They made it legal to conceal carry Ak-47s (edited)
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My point is, right wingers will use any excuse to attack trans people and it should be considered a valid tactic that anything they say could be bunk
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They made it legal to conceal carry Ak-47s (edited)
AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/28/2023 1:56 PM
so that bit of being able to conceal carry if its something cool like a slick machinegun from the Onion all the way back became true
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I am saying that immediately going for "must be a cop plot, can't be real" is tinfoil hatting
floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/28/2023 1:56 PM
sorry, think there’s a misunderstanding. I’m not saying it’s fake because the cops said it, I’m just saying to have some skepticism and that cops aren’t infallible sources
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Seconding Flop here
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so that bit of being able to conceal carry if its something cool like a slick machinegun from the Onion all the way back became true
I think that's why cops are fucking pissed/terrified of it, because that is within the slight realm of possibility
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sorry, think there’s a misunderstanding. I’m not saying it’s fake because the cops said it, I’m just saying to have some skepticism and that cops aren’t infallible sources
yeah
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I'm just saying to be a bit careful with communication
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then again it's just us here so it's fine
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/28/2023 5:29 PM
At the mainstream Conservative Political Action Conference in the USA on March 4, American actor-turned-pundit Michael Knowles announced that “for the good of society… transgenderism must be eradicated from public life entirely” to loud applause and shouts of support. The Lemkin Institute is horrified by Knowles’ statement, which is part of a mu...
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Why do I feel the sound of Germany reloading their guns?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/28/2023 5:46 PM
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MisterStompy 3/28/2023 8:03 PM
TRUMP: "Ron came to see me, tears in his eyes...'Will you endorse me?'...I said, 'Ron, you're so far behind, I can't imagine that if you got George Washington's endorsement combined with the late, great Abraham Lincoln...I don't think you could win'"
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/28/2023 8:39 PM
Lincoln died??? How did I not hear this wtf
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Lincoln died??? How did I not hear this wtf
MisterStompy 3/28/2023 8:39 PM
I literally saw him in my wallet like 15 minutes ago, it's so sudden.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/28/2023 11:03 PM
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Florida Democratic Party Chair Nikki Fried has filed an ethics complaint against Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), accusing him of accepting gifts from his political committee in violation of state law. The c…
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 3/28/2023 11:14 PM
LETS GO!!!
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TAKE HIS ASS OUT!
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/29/2023 12:15 AM
Something really fucking weird is happening.
12:16 AM
There’s evidence to support that the Nashville shooting was… manufactured. I’m not saying it is but what’s being shown makes no sense otherwise
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 3/29/2023 12:18 AM
Could also have stolen them
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Not saying it’s likely
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But it’s a possibility
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
There’s evidence to support that the Nashville shooting was… manufactured. I’m not saying it is but what’s being shown makes no sense otherwise
So in filmmaking there is a position on set called the Script Mistress. Regardless of gender of the position this position's primary job is to maintain continuity between scenes and even between takes. They are nitpicky super anal retentive people who obsess over things like "that glass is filled to 1/5th of it's capacity in this shot, this take is after the character drinks a gulp of it so it's down to 1/6th in this next take." There are probably a dozen people out there right now going. "Fucking amateurs'."
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So if this is such an instance... whoever set it up missed not only the shoes (seriously is any gunman going to change shoes in the middle of killing people?) But they also didn't do their homework to find out that the school had at least several students from the time the shooter supposedly went there who were victims of molestation and rape... which in a lot of people's minds is worthy of killing over.
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A narrative could easily be created contrary to the obviously intended one that paints the shooter as a victim who clumsily sought justifiable vengeance for something that is a MUCH bigger issue in this country than school shootings.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 3/29/2023 12:28 AM
I think we should wait for more evidence before jumping to conclusions; It’s a real possibility at this point, and definitely worth considering and keeping in mind, but let’s remain skeptical to everything at the moment until we have more really solid evidence
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Specifically the shoe thing
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We don’t want to be the next Alex Jones
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking
I think we should wait for more evidence before jumping to conclusions; It’s a real possibility at this point, and definitely worth considering and keeping in mind, but let’s remain skeptical to everything at the moment until we have more really solid evidence
Oh sure, I'm not saying that it was manufactured... but I wouldn't be shocked if it was. But the counter narrative is a solid one regardless that can easily deflate the claims of transfolk being mass murderers.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 3/29/2023 12:29 AM
Agreed
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It definitely seems weird
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But we don’t have enough evidence to work from yet to draw any kind of conclusions
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/29/2023 12:30 AM
They could have also decided "Well, since I'm going to die anyway, might as well wear these shoes I found.".
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People do funny things when they believe their life is at its end.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/29/2023 12:30 AM
Where would you find shoes for your adult feet like that in a school though?
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Kid’s shoes wouldn’t fit, faculty wouldn’t wear that
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Where would you find shoes for your adult feet like that in a school though?
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 3/29/2023 12:31 AM
It was a highschool, and they don’t need to be an exact fit
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I still wear the same sized shoe I did in higher tbf
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/29/2023 12:31 AM
Ahhh, that makes sense.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 3/29/2023 12:32 AM
Again though, it’s fucking weird no matter what
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/29/2023 12:33 AM
There’s also no evidence of blood anywhere in the videos, and I find it kinda weird that they shot out the windows. Maybe shooting at police cars?
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I’d expect to see blood after yknow, getting shot 3 times with 5.56 and 9mm
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But we don’t have enough evidence to work from yet to draw any kind of conclusions
You cannot fight propaganda with facts... you have to target people's emotions to counter propaganda. Don't make decisions based on your counter propaganda... but this is directly attempting to paint transfolk as mass murderers as a whole. Gloves can come off when countering that kind of violent speech. (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
There’s also no evidence of blood anywhere in the videos, and I find it kinda weird that they shot out the windows. Maybe shooting at police cars?
I've been curious about that myself, I've seen pics, but not the videos... 5.56 will exit an unarmored human with a fairly sizable spray pattern anywhere it hits... maybe not with the bullet intact, but it isn't going to stop inside. It takes a long time to die from 5.56 it doesn't have a wide wound characteristic... even if immobilized your heart is still pumping... it's hard to believe that out of all of the videos there isn't any noticeable blood spray, or pooling of any kind. (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
People do funny things when they believe their life is at its end.
Seems like a really far stretch. I've been shot at, and shot at people. I never looked at someone's boots in the middle or even afterward and went... "You know what, I'm just gonna stop here and take these boots they are cooler than mine." (edited)
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I've been curious about that myself, I've seen pics, but not the videos... 5.56 will exit an unarmored human with a fairly sizable spray pattern anywhere it hits... maybe not with the bullet intact, but it isn't going to stop inside. It takes a long time to die from 5.56 it doesn't have a wide wound characteristic... even if immobilized your heart is still pumping... it's hard to believe that out of all of the videos there isn't any noticeable blood spray, or pooling of any kind. (edited)
floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/29/2023 12:42 AM
Yeah, considering how they dropped like a brick I’d expect a head shot, and those are fucking MESSY
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Yeah, considering how they dropped like a brick I’d expect a head shot, and those are fucking MESSY
Audio comparison perhaps with other body cam footage of gunshots... check audio levels... if the 9mm round fired by the officer in this video is louder than others it could indicate a blank was used.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/29/2023 12:44 AM
Oh- shit yeah, I was gonna say that the 5.56 was weirdly loud on the second officer’s bodycam
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I say that as someone who used to watch bodycam footage day and night as a former copsucker (edited)
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It'll have a hollow feel to the sound, louder with a sort of hollow tambour.
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Like a starter pistol rather than a gunshot.
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In fact the pitch would be similar to a starter pistol, but the tone would be different, and the volume much louder.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/29/2023 12:47 AM
Oh, no, you can see debris from the second officer’s bodycam when he shoots
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Debris?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/29/2023 12:47 AM
Stuff shooting up from the ground where he’s aiming when he shoots
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Bullet impact
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That’s the word
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And yet the shotgunner had his trigger finger off the trigger while covering the fallen shooter.
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Are you fucking kidding me?
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Yeah I see some flecks of something coming up from the 9mm shots.
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Of course I didn't see the shooter firing at officers when they came around that corner... and yet the official police statement states that the officers on the second floor were under fire as they approached the shooter.
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Cops just so used to covering their own ass with lies they can't help but imagine gunfire at them when there isn't any.
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BubsyFanboy 3/29/2023 11:10 AM
Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen is expected to meet US House Speaker Kevin McCarthy in California next month.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/29/2023 11:50 AM
Everybody knows the CCP is full of shit
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China's State Council Information Office on Tuesday issued a report to expose the truth about human rights abuses in the United States.
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ok buddy
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look who's talking
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Xi Jinping met former Taiwanese president Ma Yingjiu the other day, but he's GMD/KMT and believes in the "One China Principle"
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Unlike Tsai Ing-wen
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MisterStompy 3/29/2023 4:26 PM
Gov. Ron DeSantis’ board overseeing Disney World’s government services is gearing up for a potential legal battle over a development agreement they say effectively renders them powerless.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/29/2023 4:28 PM
Nammo, an ammo manufacturer co-owned by the Norwegian government and a Finnish state-controlled defense company, cannot meet the increasing demand for its artillery rounds because a local...
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/29/2023 4:28 PM
Florida slowly turning into a shithole as usual
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Florida slowly turning into a shithole as usual
MisterStompy 3/29/2023 4:29 PM
Disney just made it so that DeSantis' board of puppets that were supposed to control everything can do literally nothing for like 80 years lmao
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Disney about to raw fuck DeSatan hard
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THEY'RE COMING IN DRY
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MisterStompy 3/29/2023 4:36 PM
Wait hold on, Disney also stacked the board with their own lawyers lmao
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It's a double whammy
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Yup
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Hey gonna be gay and are BEGGING for DeSatan to fuck around and find out
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Disney just made it so that DeSantis' board of puppets that were supposed to control everything can do literally nothing for like 80 years lmao
AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/29/2023 4:58 PM
Oh fucking nice
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too much power for a fucking corporation but still, really nice
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specially the one the size of disney
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wait a minute.....
4:59 PM
we're getting Bioshock florida! And Walt is coming back! holy shit!
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TheAnonymousDew 3/29/2023 7:32 PM
We have an old saying in Florida: "DON'T FUCK WITH THE MOUSE"
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too much power for a fucking corporation but still, really nice
TheAnonymousDew 3/29/2023 7:32 PM
It's mixed, I'm no fan of it either but it humiliates that would be dictator
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It's mixed, I'm no fan of it either but it humiliates that would be dictator
AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/29/2023 7:35 PM
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MisterStompy 3/29/2023 8:08 PM
GOOD LORD
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MisterStompy 3/29/2023 8:30 PM
Collectivism, such as calling #Trans people "mentally ill" and using that to curtail their #SecondAmendemnt rights, is bullshit. Bigots are allies of the state. Hating or fearing people based on innate characteristics leads to big government violations such as gun bans.
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It's so weird seeing an official libertarian party that isn't just deepthroating Putin.
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I toured a defense contractor executive’s home
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/29/2023 8:53 PM
this one goes way too hard jesus christ
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D...Did the Libertarians of Louisiana just get Scrooged last night or something?!
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We have an old saying in Florida: "DON'T FUCK WITH THE MOUSE"
Not entirely DeSatan related, but even the fashy fucks in the Mouse/Marvel itself are gettin' purged https://twitter.com/Nash076/status/1641138349124599808
There's a lot going on here. First and foremost, the idea that Perlmutter was canned over "cost-cutting" is laughable. This was Disney CEO Chapek getting rid of the old ghoul who as recently as February tried to proxy his way back int power. https://t.co/MTq40OlSul
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 3/29/2023 9:11 PM
Wild how we as leftists are now allied with Libertarians and the Military Industrial Complex
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D...Did the Libertarians of Louisiana just get Scrooged last night or something?!
MisterStompy 3/29/2023 9:11 PM
It's one of the few that haven't bowed down to the Mises Caucus, although shockingly even the Mises Caucus opposed disarming trans people (although they still very much hate them tbh)
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Military saw how many queer folk are willing to join and is not against them, especially as customers
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Military saw how many queer folk are willing to join and is not against them, especially as customers
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 3/29/2023 9:13 PM
True
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ironically if I was a gun manufacting kinda gal, I be courting the lgbta and left so SO hard rn
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MisterStompy 3/29/2023 9:13 PM
Conservatism as we know it today is dying. At some point we're only gonna be seeing liberalism, democratic socialism, social democracy and libertarianism
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 3/29/2023 9:14 PM
THE LOCKHEED MARTIN PRIDE MONTH SOCKS STAY ON DURING SEX! (edited)
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especially with the genocide warning
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Conservatism as we know it today is dying. At some point we're only gonna be seeing liberalism, democratic socialism, social democracy and libertarianism
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 3/29/2023 9:14 PM
Let’s hope
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problem is its death throws will kill us all if given the chance
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Conservatism as we know it today is dying. At some point we're only gonna be seeing liberalism, democratic socialism, social democracy and libertarianism
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 3/29/2023 9:14 PM
I’ll happily take liberalism as the new idea of what right wing means
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problem is its death throws will kill us all if given the chance
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 3/29/2023 9:14 PM
True
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I’ll happily take liberalism as the new idea of what right wing means
TheAnonymousDew 3/29/2023 9:22 PM
As will I. Liberals suck, but they're not advocating for theocracy or legalized homophoba
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Not entirely DeSatan related, but even the fashy fucks in the Mouse/Marvel itself are gettin' purged https://twitter.com/Nash076/status/1641138349124599808
TheAnonymousDew 3/29/2023 9:26 PM
Good riddance
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/29/2023 9:40 PM
critical support to comrade libertarian party of louisiana
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/29/2023 9:42 PM
Broken clock, anyone?
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Libertarians socially I can get along with, it's their economics or lack thereof that drive me nuts.
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Libertarians who aren't Hoppeans or Mises-ites are generally good, it's just their economic philosophy that is an issue Edit: just realized someone above me said the same thing (edited)
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How many state parties got taken over by Mises though? And how many states have like two opposing LPs in schism?
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Wild how we as leftists are now allied with Libertarians and the Military Industrial Complex
Never confuse parallel positions on individual topics with alliance. You can bet Libertarians and MIC won't.
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God's law, huh? You mean a genderless god with genderless servants who do not say anywhere Drag is sin? Those heretics
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/30/2023 4:05 AM
Yeah, between the GOP and the rest of us. I call 'em "prison walls".
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God's law, huh? You mean a genderless god with genderless servants who do not say anywhere Drag is sin? Those heretics
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/30/2023 4:06 AM
Imagine showing them theatre in the ancient times where women were played by men.
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They'll claim its pagan
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Wild how we as leftists are now allied with Libertarians and the Military Industrial Complex
BubsyFanboy 3/30/2023 4:21 AM
Temporary aligning of interests, not alliance.
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Although it'd be nice to see libertarians (the non-reactionary kind) partnering with the left.
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Temporary aligning of interests, not alliance.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/30/2023 4:35 AM
AKA: Realpolitik
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God's law, huh? You mean a genderless god with genderless servants who do not say anywhere Drag is sin? Those heretics
A woman shall not wear a man's garment, nor shall a man put on a woman's cloak, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the LORD your God.
Deuteronomy 22:5
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^ this is the justification they use
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Never confuse parallel positions on individual topics with alliance. You can bet Libertarians and MIC won't.
Normal libertarians can be our allies against authoritarians, but I don't know how many are actually interested in it
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MIC isn't anyone's ally
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It's good that they're arming Ukraine ig
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but they're the #1 threat to peace in the world
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once this is over, they'll look to start new wars if there aren't any already beginning
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Deuteronomy 22:5 is also believed to been mistranslated too
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It should be "men's armor' not men's clothes
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Yes, the word used in the verse is mostly translated as "armor," but the word it uses for "clothing" when it says a man cannot wear a woman's clothing/garment is only ever translated as "clothing"
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So it would be "A woman shall not wear a man's armor, nor shall a man put on a woman's garment"
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"We have been receiving news since early morning that the Azerbaijani armed forces have invaded Armenian territory several kilometers since yesterday and reached the outskirts of Tegh village" - Armenian news outlet Hraparak
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Normal libertarians can be our allies against authoritarians, but I don't know how many are actually interested in it
Normal Libertarians want to use free market capitalism as the basis for subjugating us. They are the Johnson family who's responsible for millions of cases of cancer in women. They are the railroads responsible for polluting our homes and streams and rivers.
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They are the oil companies fraking our watersheds. There is no future for humans if Libertarians have any say at all.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/30/2023 12:09 PM
Libertarians want to transfer the oppressive power of the state to the oppressive power of themselves
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MisterStompy 3/30/2023 1:46 PM
Fight happening now on far-right twitter. Bronze Age Pervert attacking Varg Vikernes for potentially having future mixed grandchildren and Varg accusing BAP of being circumcised and Jewish
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Normal Libertarians want to use free market capitalism as the basis for subjugating us. They are the Johnson family who's responsible for millions of cases of cancer in women. They are the railroads responsible for polluting our homes and streams and rivers.
MisterStompy 3/30/2023 2:02 PM
Real libertarianism died with Goldwater tbh, but at least we still have Penn and Teller.
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"These immigrants don't speak the language" "THEN DON'T TALK TO THEM!"
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Lmao
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Whole departments in my store speak like only Spanish and a little broken English, so sometimes it causes some minor logistical problems but I don't understand fearmongering mfs who are like "OUR NATION IS COLLAPSING!" because of it. Some of these ppl I work with have kids who are bilingual and their grandkids will prob only speak English as a first language anyways. It's what happened with everyone else
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My great grandparents didn't speak English well, but my grandparents were basically monolingual English speakers except one was more bilingual. Then my parents spoke only English
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but we're White so we're not a threat to "national identity" or whatever ig
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Everyone assimilates
2:11 PM
but every time these people are like "they're not assimilating! they'll never assimilate!" and then like a generation or two later they're fully Americanized
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Real libertarianism died with Goldwater tbh, but at least we still have Penn and Teller.
The South Park guys are as well, I think
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The South Park guys are as well, I think
MisterStompy 3/30/2023 2:17 PM
Yeah, them too. They're pretty chill.
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When I said "normal libertarians," I was talking about normal people, not CEOs and shit. Middle class people who want to be free from authoritarianism but have a misguided economic philosophy
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CEO libertarians only believe in what they believe in because it will make them richer
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Normie libertarians believe in what they believe in because of dated economic theories
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I've literally never met a libertarian in real life that is willing to accept consequences for shitty actions. Not one. Every one of them thinks the consequences for poisoning people would be the failure of their company. No mother fucker the consequences of poisoning people is motherfucking death. If you can accept that, cool call yourself a libertarian. If not, you are just another capitalist wannabe who refuses consequences for actions.
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Wow a tankie willing to throw Uncle Ho under the bus to protect Pol Pot. That's a new one on me.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/30/2023 4:12 PM
Pol potters are quite rare
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Black Magic 3/30/2023 4:43 PM
Do they signify their allegiance by wearing pots? Would make as much sense
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A constant reminder of why we need the third arrow
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/30/2023 4:53 PM
Mhm
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/30/2023 5:31 PM
Mr. Trump will be the first former president to face criminal charges. The precise charges are not yet known, but the case is focused on a hush-money payment to a porn star during his 2016 campaign.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/30/2023 5:35 PM
HOLY SHIT
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wait...WAIT SHIT, I NEED MY MUG AND AXE
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mug for conservative tears
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but the axe is for self defense til I can buy a gun
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SORRY FOR TWITTER LINK, BUT FOX NEWS FUCKING GASPED WHEN THE NEWS GOT TO THEM https://twitter.com/brenonade/status/1641555295926099969
Audible gasps let out in Fox News' studio as they announce the Trump indictment news
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Thousands, not hundreds. Awesome turnout. Keep the pressure on.
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HEY YO, SHIT'S GOING ON IN NASHVILLE (edited)
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AMAZING: Hundreds of fed-up protesters filling the halls of the Tennessee Capitol, protesting the latest school mass shooting and demanding meaningful change to protect children from gun violence. https://t.co/JjnAJkXNFc
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MisterStompy 3/30/2023 7:23 PM
HOLY FUCK IT'S HAPPENING
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INDICTMENT
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Everyone stay inside, just point at the screen and laugh.
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I HAVE TO RUN GROCERIES RN BUT SAME
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MisterStompy 3/30/2023 7:24 PM
Jesse Watters is fuming: "This cannot stand ... Something feels TERRRIBLE."
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Watters won't do shit, he's a little bitch. This is just him encouraging viewers to go bonkers. https://twitter.com/aliciasadowski6/status/1641556625134702592
Fox's Jesse Watters reacts to Donald Trump's indictment: "The country's not going to stand for it. And people better be careful, and that's all I'll say about that."
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NYT reports the grand jury voted to charge Trump on a “felony indictment,” now “filed under seal.” https://t.co/XcYqfpUB1R
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FELONY
7:31 PM
NO MORE PRESIDENCY
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MisterStompy 3/30/2023 7:31 PM
NO MORE 19 DOLLAR FORTNITE CARD
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NOOOOOOO MOOOOORE TROOOOLLS
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The politically motivated indictment of the 45th President of the United States marks a dark moment in American history. It will undermine public trust in our electoral system & justice system. It is un-American for the ruling party to use police power to arrest its political…
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MisterStompy 3/30/2023 7:34 PM
A porn star and a convicted felon are the "star witnesses" in this Trump indictment... in case you're wondering if it's politically motivated or not.
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7:36 PM
Former President Trump’s indictment is a disgrace and I don’t think the Left understands what they’re getting themselves into. This, of all things to do, on a charge that no other prosecutor was even considering bringing, really lights a fire under this country.
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March 30, 2023 is the day that the United States of America officially ceased to exist. With the indictment of President Donald J. Trump, this country has lost all meaning. The Constitution is nothing but parchment at this point. Our freedoms mean nothing when a weaponized…
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I am somewhat concerned, they have a martyr now and they now have only one candidate for president /God Emperor Messiah Savior King etc.
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Call em the Heretics they are and if they start shit, deal with them
7:40 PM
No quarter for traitors
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MisterStompy 3/30/2023 7:41 PM
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Also sow discord among hard-core trump fanatics and DeSatan supporters NOW
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/30/2023 7:42 PM
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MisterStompy 3/30/2023 7:42 PM
When one party is constantly faced with indictments and arrests while the other never faces any consequences, you don't live in a democracy. You live under authoritarian rule.
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USA USA USA USA USA
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A decline you and the GQP caused asshole
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MisterStompy 3/30/2023 7:55 PM
Guys I found a leaked copy of the indictment documents
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MisterStompy 3/30/2023 7:58 PM
NOOOOOO, I WANNA SEE WACO 2.0, DON'T TAKE THIS FROM ME YOU BASTARD https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1641577328869244928
BREAKING on @MSNBC: Trump will surrender next week, according to his defense attorney.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 3/30/2023 7:58 PM
USA USA USA USA USA USA USA
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/30/2023 7:59 PM
OHHH SAY CAN YOU SEEEEEE
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BY THE DAWNS EARLY LIIIGHT
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(I don't know the rest of the song help me out here)
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 3/30/2023 8:02 PM
WHAT SO PROUDLY WE HAILED AT THE TWILIGHT'S LAST GLEAMING
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MisterStompy 3/30/2023 8:02 PM
WHOSE BROAD STRIKES AND BRIGHT STARS
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The right proving they're the snowflakes
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/30/2023 8:03 PM
got to yell “get fucked” at the people with a trump flag cause they were outside their house
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WHAT SO PROUDLY WE HAILED AT THE TWILIGHT'S LAST GLEAMING
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NOOOOOO, I WANNA SEE WACO 2.0, DON'T TAKE THIS FROM ME YOU BASTARD https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1641577328869244928
I WANT MY PERP WALK YOU CHEAP CHEETO HITLER WANNABE
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MisterStompy 3/30/2023 8:10 PM
let's just say that hypothetically I was the Muffin Man, would I let the feds take Trump from my hosue on Durey Lane? Absolutely not. Completely out of the question. https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1641555429363974144
An act of legal absurdity https://t.co/dS89gQ9XuH
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let's just say that hypothetically I was the Muffin Man, would I let the feds take Trump from my hosue on Durey Lane? Absolutely not. Completely out of the question. https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1641555429363974144
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/30/2023 8:11 PM
Let's say that hypothetically that you gag on my balls, you treasonous slime.
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let's just say that hypothetically I was the Muffin Man, would I let the feds take Trump from my hosue on Durey Lane? Absolutely not. Completely out of the question. https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1641555429363974144
AvoidOblivion 3/30/2023 8:11 PM
I’ll be honest, I forgot Ben Shartpiro existed for a moment. It took me a second to remember who he was.
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Let's say that hypothetically that you gag on my balls, you treasonous slime.
Bold of you to assume he has any
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MisterStompy 3/30/2023 8:14 PM
BREAKING: The Turkish Parliament just voted to approve Finland’s NATO membership application. 276 MPs voted for it, 0 were against. All 30 NATO member states have now approved it. Finland is certain to join. NATO expansion just became a fact. 🇹🇷🇫🇮
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GOD TODAY IS A GREAT DAY FOR NAZIS TO GET PUNCHED IN THE FACE
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Bold of you to assume he has any
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/30/2023 8:14 PM
I was referring to my own balls but that being said...
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In my defense, you impersonated him so I thought it was satire of him
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 3/30/2023 8:19 PM
USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🦅 🦅 🦅 🏈 🏈
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/30/2023 8:20 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Oh yeah also Finland's in NATO now. https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1641550132142276609
TheAnonymousDew 3/30/2023 8:21 PM
What of Sweden
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MisterStompy 3/30/2023 8:26 PM
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What of Sweden
MisterStompy 3/30/2023 8:26 PM
idk, might take a bit longer though because there's tons of animosity between the two
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TheAnonymousDew 3/30/2023 8:26 PM
Fair
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CSI: MIAMI
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Sweden and Finland or Sweden and Turkey?
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Sweden and Finland or Sweden and Turkey?
MisterStompy 3/30/2023 8:27 PM
Sweden and Turkey
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Fair.
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MisterStompy 3/30/2023 8:27 PM
the comments here are a goddamn warzone https://twitter.com/ManhattanDA/status/1641579988360019968
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Sweden and Finland (mostly) get along. At least in the face of Russian aggression.
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TheAnonymousDew 3/30/2023 8:27 PM
Except in ice hockey
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/30/2023 8:29 PM
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) on Thursday called the indictment of former President Trump “un-American” and said the state would not assist in any extradition request. “The weaponization of t…
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Found Trump's cellmate.
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SOMEONE IS PICKING THE WORSE FIGHTS TODAY
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MisterStompy 3/30/2023 8:33 PM
Everyone's making fun of him for this, especially Trump supporters.
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TheAnonymousDew 3/30/2023 8:33 PM
He has no case.. The Constitution says he has to
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He has no case.. The Constitution says he has to
MisterStompy 3/30/2023 8:37 PM
Watch as DeSantis tanks even lower in the polls once Trump gets extradited
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 3/30/2023 8:37 PM
since when has DeSantis given a rat's ass about the Constitution. That shitstain is a wanna be Tyrant. He'll make trouble, mark my words.
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since when has DeSantis given a rat's ass about the Constitution. That shitstain is a wanna be Tyrant. He'll make trouble, mark my words.
TheAnonymousDew 3/30/2023 8:42 PM
And he'll lose
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Also Gonna bring Disney even more shit staining to Florida
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Disney is already seeing how his shitty policies are affecting them
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And he'll lose
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LMFAO
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since when has DeSantis given a rat's ass about the Constitution. That shitstain is a wanna be Tyrant. He'll make trouble, mark my words.
Good, it's not a fight he can win. If Trump doesn't surrender himself, and DeSantis moves in any way to prevent extradition, DeSantis commits an act of open sedition against the United States government. One that no part of the Federal Government can ever allow to go without reprisal, because allowing DeSantis to get away with it would set a precedent that would absolutely lead to a Civil War.
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Good, it's not a fight he can win. If Trump doesn't surrender himself, and DeSantis moves in any way to prevent extradition, DeSantis commits an act of open sedition against the United States government. One that no part of the Federal Government can ever allow to go without reprisal, because allowing DeSantis to get away with it would set a precedent that would absolutely lead to a Civil War.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/30/2023 11:41 PM
https://www.rte.ie/news/2023/0330/1367300-biden-visit/ Meanwhile Biden's trying to get hit with a car bomb.
US President Joe Biden is set to begin a five-day visit to the island of Ireland in Belfast on 11 April.
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https://www.rte.ie/news/2023/0330/1367300-biden-visit/ Meanwhile Biden's trying to get hit with a car bomb.
No see this is awesome. It's stating that Belfast is in Ireland, and not Northern Ireland. Maybe Star Trek was right afterall.
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Start you own car do ye?
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Start you own car do ye?
Jaysus Mary mudder and Joesef, if someone were ta set me alight with a pack o' plastique in me car, I'd thank the bastered wit dun it when he joined me in hell. I'm sick ta deat of this god fersaken world.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/31/2023 2:38 AM
To the surprise of literally no one.
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MisterStompy 3/31/2023 12:18 PM
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trans rights are fucking human rights
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also, best to prep
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MAGA and GOP are extra salty today
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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Thursday teased future, unspecified action against Disney after the entertainment giant appeared to thwart his attempts at a takeover of its special governing powers.
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speaking of salty
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I WANT MY PERP WALK YOU CHEAP CHEETO HITLER WANNABE
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 3/31/2023 12:47 PM
My dad’s reaction
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TELL YOUR FATHER HE HAS MY ETERNAL THANKS
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 3/31/2023 12:51 PM
BRING THE GOOD OLD BUGEL BOYS AND SING ANOTHER SONG! SING IT WITH THE SPIRIT THAT WILL START THE WORLD ALONG!
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TELL YOUR FATHER HE HAS MY ETERNAL THANKS
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 3/31/2023 12:52 PM
My dad is quite based
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They're not doing perp walk
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He's being brought into the court house through an underground tunnel
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Likely won't be handcuffed. He'll be fingerprinted and they'll take his mugshot, but they might not release the mugshot publicly
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not willingly
2:17 PM
but New yorkers hate Trump
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the only supporters he has are cops there
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and they're scared shitless of a city the population size of New York taking cues from Rodney King (edited)
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This is why animation unions are trying to fucking curb that shit
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/31/2023 2:19 PM
is2g embed
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ironically, the problem is
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meta data gives away its modded
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for once, genuinely, thanks Photoshop for making metadate a feature
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its causing twitter's warning alarms to go right the fuck off
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kwadington
Sen. Lindsey Graham (S.C.) joked on Twitter that former President Trump should “smash some windows, rob a few shops and punch a cop” on his way to the Manhattan district attorney’s office as a tact…
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...is that a threat Ladybug?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/31/2023 2:30 PM
sounds good to me
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MisterStompy 3/31/2023 7:47 PM
Fuck the commies. Trans Rights.
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Hence, again, why we have 3 arrows instead of 2
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MisterStompy 3/31/2023 8:09 PM
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Yup
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MisterStompy
Fuck the commies. Trans Rights.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/31/2023 9:13 PM
You, liar, are hit by the second arrow!
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Jessica Long's 9-year-old didn't want her goat, Cedar, to be slaughtered at the county fair. Officials sent deputies with a search warrant to get it back.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/1/2023 3:00 PM
Did you expect anything less from these people? (edited)
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Kentucky passed the worst Anti-Trans bill in the country, which will: - Force doctors to medically detransition all trans kids - Allow teachers to misgender trans students - Ban trans kids from going to the bathroom of their gender identity - Ban ANY mention of s-xual orientation and gender identity in the classroom - Ban STI and human s-xualit...
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Sorry for Tiktok but we gotta burn Kentucky
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/2/2023 6:44 PM
South Dakota became the 2nd state to pass a gender affirming care ban for trans youth. The ban has a new and terrifying clause specifying how forced detransitions should happen.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/2/2023 7:24 PM
How about we systematically reduce your brain matter
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The Trump administration has approved the first-ever deal for an American firm to develop and modernize oil fields in northeast Syria under control of the US-backed Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces.
7:54 PM
What neo colonialism looks like.
7:55 PM
Do I think we should abandon the Kurds, no. But doing this to make money and deny the region to russia isn't the reason we should do this.
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Fr. It's beyond twisted that the same countries insane over border lines on a map then will use breakaway groups, no matter how right or wrong they are, to do things they want to abandon later. Like Kurds, Chechens, and Pashtuns are all cool until we don't need them anymore or cultural ADHD takes attention elsewhere.
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Then get all surprised Pikachu when they might express some resentment over it.
10:18 PM
US became the gaslighting, abusive police officer boyfriend of the world, lol. Plz rewind.
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Before that it was the soviets, and before that it was the british/ french and before that it was the ottomans. Post colonial sovereignty, is always difficult.
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The US should lead by example and have an entirely defensive and most reconciliatory foreign policy. Limit the ability of the government and military to send troops places without Congressional permission. Implement a Constitutional amendment mandating a referendum of only able-bodied, military-aged citizens for entering a war. Pull all troops out of all countries where they are not given explicit permission by the legally-recognized, UN member state government to be in (Syria, for example). Cut aid to Israel and the Arab states. Pay some amount (not excessive) of reparations to countries like Iraq and do what it can to salvage ties with them. Have limited rapprochement with Iran and formally apologize for the 1950s coup and Shah regime, but don't get too close to the current regime either. Just make certain things right and curtail anti-Americanism there to a degree. Focus on defensive measures within NATO and EU states. Keep aiding Ukraine, Moldova, Bosnia, Kosovo and Georgia; possibly Serbia too. Maintain good relations with Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Nigeria, Brazil, South Africa and other rising developing nations. Try to make deals with PR China and Taiwan/ROC in order to prevent war but maintain Taiwan's de facto independence & sovereignty. Pressure France and other allied states into taking measures to end neo-colonial policies and practices. Encourage independent domestic development of African and Latin American nations. Help them to make their own products and such, for which they will keep all of the profits instead of having other countries leech off of them. These things can't be done without insane fundamental changes to the US though. It's just a dream (edited)
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What neo colonialism looks like.
This is how it's been since 2011, or even as far back as 2001 if you count the planning and subversive actions taken beforehand. From day one, we cared about two things and two things alone: profits and geopolitical power. Our bases in Syria have been built to protect oil fields, which we've been sucking dry, not "freedom fighter" Kurds or anything else. For a decent amount of time, our aid literally went to jihadist and jihadist-aligned groups under the "FSA" umbrella. One of the only good things Trump did as President was limiting the scope of these programs so our aid could only go to SDF groups... but we still never cared about SDF. Even Trump abandoned them in 2019 and let the Turks invade parts of SDF-controlled Syria (edited)
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I'm tired and just writing what comes to mind. I know you, and 99% of the people here, don't think we were helping the Kurds out of benevolence or whatever else
11:42 PM
I'm just saying it cuz the entire situation pisses me off
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Everything about it. Especially everything since 2001, but you can go as far back as 1945 or 1898 or fuck it, even the dawn of man, and still see the same things everywhere. It's not impossible to be different though
11:49 PM
It's not impossible to restrain the government and prevent these wars from happening
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/3/2023 1:51 AM
Law enforcement officers have used Clearview AI's facial recognition database nearly a million times, Hoan Ton-That, the company's CEO, told the BBC.
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BubsyFanboy 4/3/2023 7:04 AM
https://www.facebook.com/libertarianie/posts/pfbid022aRgLZuqFKEPfzBCzpHGr3e6SF866osxcQpKbheC3zfCKE7WFmcULpCHRXwZybmXl?__cft__[0]=AZVxl_TCJnta83cs4rdBhc1SxPEjtXWkCLrQ0IDMbWnE1RTfkzPEP23-xgcdE5aI7Orgp4cq1CmRy12xj1nRghjIjsBhHL22Yehhvm5KkqwT4EnR7L7uOvtfKY5fArVh2Z8KsPcYUMyjEQwUpe3WmEkd8mGDRnwmK9haFENfAeL4uGO-fT78Tj65UzCfrBJxi81YAQ384Gb0H6CwV3LYaCys&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R Sorry for super long link, but:
Some commentators may say that the Polish railways have problems. Disastrously operating systems, ticket prices higher than in Germany, delays worse than in Ukraine... and in a market without competition (because the offices block the entry of competition from the Czech Republic). However, the authorities decided to take care of the most important issues that bother every Pole... by handing out cream cakes on Pendolino trains. Cream that lies in cardboard boxes, next to hot air from radiators 🤢 Enjoy your meal! The railroad will definitely help. And the cult of the pope too.
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I'll believe it when I see it, honestly.
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AvoidOblivion 4/3/2023 7:52 AM
Finland’s main conservative party has claimed victory in a parliamentary election in an extremely tight three-way race where right-wing populists took second place, leaving popular Prime Minister Sanna Marin’s Social Democratic Party third, dashing her hopes for reelection. The center-right National Coalition Party claimed victory Sunday evening...
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The party self-statedly bases its politics on "freedom, responsibility and democracy, equal opportunities, education, supportiveness, tolerance and caring" and supports multiculturalism and LGBT rights. Their foreign stances are pro-NATO and pro-European orientated, and they are a member of the European People's Party (EPP).
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"conservative" parties in Europe moment
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So liberals won this election
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although the chance of them making a coalition with the Finns Party is pretty damn high
8:24 AM
more likely, it's going to be "confidence and supply" like in sweden
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honestly I think it's a somewhat good thing for the medium term for the nordics
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the left is suffering very minor defeats
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and the right wing governments who succeed them crumble within months
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(or in the case of denmark, the """socdems""" are getting shafted in the polls for allying with the right)
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like look at swedish polls since the election lol
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red green coalition now enjoys a 6-10 point lead in the polls (vs 1 point trail for the last election)
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Black Magic 4/3/2023 10:09 AM
The Swedish left was pretty much unbearable, so says family in umea.
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can anyone help me win this argument?
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im trying to convince a hardliner that you dont need to be dirt poor to be a socialist
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i an electricalstomach
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DevilTheAutopoet 4/3/2023 7:40 PM
"Read Marx" you mean the guy who never had to work a day in his life because his buddy Engels had family money and financed his lifestyle?
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Also gotta love the snuck premise that because you don't think petit bourgeoisie and bourgeoisie should be excluded from socialist movements that you are necessarily a reformist and a social democrat.
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Not to mention the blatant essentialism of this person's whole line of reasoning. Fucking hell. This person is about one step away from saying we must exclude Jews from the movement because their bourgeois nature would compromise its revolutionary potential.
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This sort of essentialism is why the tankie to nazbol pipeline exists.
9:14 PM
Sarcasm for those who can't tell.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/3/2023 9:16 PM
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"Read Marx" you mean the guy who never had to work a day in his life because his buddy Engels had family money and financed his lifestyle?
yeah, im a semi-revolutionary/centrist marxist
9:38 PM
i just want everyone to be able to join the cause
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yeah, im a semi-revolutionary/centrist marxist
DevilTheAutopoet 4/3/2023 9:45 PM
Centrist Marxism? There's one you don't see a lot of anymore.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
https://www.mediamatters.org/tucker-carlson/tucker-carlson-claims-america-under-government-run-anarchy-thanks-soros-inspired Good news, @floppunism [BOI, ID], @Spinner, and all other anarchists. You've won apparently.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/3/2023 9:50 PM
"Anarcho-tyranny" Yes that is definitely a thing that exists. /s (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/3/2023 9:50 PM
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how do you get state-sponsored anarchy
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/3/2023 9:53 PM
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basically
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Anarchy = chaos
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in this case
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/3/2023 10:05 PM
What i know about anarchy is that it gives you 0% stability in hoi4
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/3/2023 10:09 PM
anarchy’s the mother of order
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that’s why the symbol is an A in an O
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Centrist Marxism? There's one you don't see a lot of anymore.
really? why is it so rare?
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
that’s why the symbol is an A in an O
based symbology
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I feel like most self-described Marxists I know are quite hard on the "dictatorship of the proletariat" and such. Like we just need to literally eat all bosses and landlords. Not saying they're great examples of all out and out Marxists but seem to be the most common.
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I feel like most self-described Marxists I know are quite hard on the "dictatorship of the proletariat" and such. Like we just need to literally eat all bosses and landlords. Not saying they're great examples of all out and out Marxists but seem to be the most common.
then they arent marxists
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because they have abandoned materialism for ideology
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none of these people need to be killed
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they would only need to be killed if they were trying to kill you
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Or the vehement hate against religious people. I'm like vaguely religious, I do my own thing, but I see no reason to like violently hate people just because they think there's more to the universe.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/3/2023 10:40 PM
A lot of it is probably hold over from how oppressive the church used to be during the advent of the ideas of communism and how that was represented in theory
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thats more justified
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im anti organized relgion
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there should be no priests ir pastors
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though maybe monastic groups can stay
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i dont want people having authority over beliefs like that (edited)
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Hard-core Marxists, even Marx himself, advocated that not all could be brought to to the Marxist ideal and would have to die. I find that both cynical and not particularly conducive to the best society, personally.
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most marxists dislike religion, but marx himself didnt dislike religion
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he thought it was almost essential for easing the pain of human existance (edited)
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hense the term "opium of the masses" (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/3/2023 10:43 PM
I thought he meant that it was used to pacify the people and therefore must be destroyed
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With that line
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I won't disagree his works are some of the most abused writings ever, but he also held some fringe out there ideas. Overall a centrist seems more agreeable, but more rare for sure.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
I thought he meant that it was used to pacify the people and therefore must be destroyed
he ment both technically
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he generally thought the state used it to pacify people
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but that relgious belief was invented as a coping mechanism for humanity
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
I thought he meant that it was used to pacify the people and therefore must be destroyed
I think that individual line can be taken by itself as vaguely positive, but in the context of all his works there was some angst there.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/3/2023 10:45 PM
yeah
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thats always how i viewed it
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/3/2023 10:45 PM
personally i love my ¿religion? (i don’t even know if i’m religious at this point) because it has legitimate help beyond the spirituality of it
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It's just such a personal, abstract thing like how do you enforce one over another or exclude them entirely? There's a lot of spooky personal experiences out there. I just say leave folks be as long as they don't feel the need to dump on my life for just living.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
personally i love my ¿religion? (i don’t even know if i’m religious at this point) because it has legitimate help beyond the spirituality of it
whats your religion?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/3/2023 10:49 PM
i’m kinda buddhist, kinda not buddhist
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i personally dislike organized religion, but dont like beliefs
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if that tracks
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/3/2023 10:49 PM
don’t dislike beliefs?
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i mean myself
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i dont dislike beliefs
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/3/2023 10:49 PM
ah
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even if you are not religious, you can still be a buddhist
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since many branches view buddhism as both a philosophy and a religion
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Hard-core Marxists, even Marx himself, advocated that not all could be brought to to the Marxist ideal and would have to die. I find that both cynical and not particularly conducive to the best society, personally.
And most rational modern anarchists believe that it is the consistent process of demonstrating egalitarian (anarchist) ideals in practice that bring communities on board with the ideals and thus creates the change bottom up, spreading as more people see the personal value in living with a more collective mindset. Which ironically is far more common more or less everywhere else but the western countries.
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since many branches view buddhism as both a philosophy and a religion
Generally it's only a "religion" to white liberals and people who's state made it their formal religion.
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It's got some good stuff. But it has some really fucked interpretations of the stuff that makes it up.
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burma...
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American or Western Buddhism is seriously fucked in it's interpretations.
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Particularly regarding harm.
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there they have a buddhist government and recently tried to genocide a religious minority.
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Particularly regarding harm.
how so?
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i am not a theologin
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or however its spelled
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Generally speaking western buddhist practitioners believe that harming another should never happen regardless of the circumstances. Where more traditional practitioners believe that circumstance matters and personal choice is necessary. Example: Person A is a rapist or murderer... lets go so far as to say they are a diagnosable criminal psychopath... which usually means a Psychopath who has additional paraphillia which make them more prone to violent acts than normal everyday corporate style psychopaths. Psychopaths past the age of ~18 cannot be treated with any currently available process. Persona A for example is 30, and was picked up for killing his girlfriend because "She pushed my buttons." He followed her into the bathroom after she called him fat, and slammed her head against the shower wall till she died. *Note this is an actual case example from real world. He then drove her body to a wooded area and carried her about 50ft into the trees. "I was gonna take her about a mile out, but have you ever tried to carry a body and a shovel? It's damn hard work." If released this guy will kill again... period... because someone else will "push his buttons". If you ask a western buddhist adherent what should be done with the person, they will say he should be treated and released as soon as possible (totally ignoring the fact that there is no treatment that would change this person's behavior) If you ask a traditional Buddhist what they would do... they might say... well I'd kill him so that others might not suffer the fate of his previous victims, and I acknowledge the harm I would be doing to myself by doing so and see it as a fair trade to protect others.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/3/2023 11:16 PM
yeah, i haven’t looked too hard jnto the pacifism aspect of it because it irked me and certainly not something i’d subscribe to
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I wouldn't say I'm a Buddhist... but every time I hear a really nuanced statement by a reputable practitioner of traditional Buddhism I tend to agree with them without reservation.
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Example:
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I had a very good friend, and several times mentor in the Gay Leather community. He decided to dedicate his life to the study of buddhism.
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We were talking about violence one day and he decided I was harmful to him because of my view (see the traditional Buddhist response to the above example) on punishment and violence to protect others.
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Four years later, after no communication, he texts me to explain that his teacher finally started teaching him about the subject... and his teacher told him the same thing I did... explaining that they don't discuss nuances like that with new students because they don't have the framework regarding living in harmony with others that they need to understand it. (edited)
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We still don't talk, but he did acknowledge the mistake he made.
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It does make sense that teachers withhold the nuances of the principles of choosing to do no harm to others... but it also led western practitioners to never learn those nuances because almost all of the founders of the practice who are not of asian origin only ever spent a few months or a year or two studying from traditional Buddhists before they decided they got enough to teach others.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/3/2023 11:24 PM
I’m not really even interested in Buddhism for the spirituality aspect of it, but more the mental aspect of it. Specifically what got me interested what learning about the self-immolation of Thich Quang Duc and how he never made a move of pain while he burned to death. That sort of immense self control is something I want to at least have a sliver of, and following what I do proved to help significantly already.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
I’m not really even interested in Buddhism for the spirituality aspect of it, but more the mental aspect of it. Specifically what got me interested what learning about the self-immolation of Thich Quang Duc and how he never made a move of pain while he burned to death. That sort of immense self control is something I want to at least have a sliver of, and following what I do proved to help significantly already.
Mindfulness meditations, then expanding into altered consciousness meditations. He wasn't present for the burning mentally I guarantee. His mind was probably in some far off temple in the jungle far from other people feeding and playing with orangutans.
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I have immense respect for people who can achieve that state. I've never met one, but the stories like his tell me there are some.
11:31 PM
I will also state that Iga Ryu school of Jujitsu/Ninjutsu teaches similar ideas. There it's referred to The Void. It's a state of mind where consciousness is only aware of facts of a present situation and the body acts in accordance with their word for muscle memory... it is the goal of the student to achieve this state deliberately. It's unwittingly entered cousin is "Seeing Red" or "losing control".
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For example. If you were to deliberately enter The Void state you could be aware of FAR more than you would if you were otherwise (I hate to say emotionally engaged, but it's the best western word for it), it could be described as an altered awareness and akin to what we think of Jedi having regarding a combat precognition.
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While there a person could tell their body to react to things with a dispassionate awareness of the appropriate response. You might be aware of a bow being drawn behind you for example because you aren't focused on something else (say like staying hidden). And thus you could tell your body to roll backwards to face your enemy.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/3/2023 11:36 PM
cringe western religions: doge3 god will give you a miracle if he wishes to do so chad eastern religions: dogechad you can train your mind to have the precognition of a jedi
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That needs to be a meme.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/3/2023 11:37 PM
give me 5 minutes
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But absolutely true.
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Particularly regarding harm.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/3/2023 11:46 PM
Wasn't there a Buddhist extremist group that believed killing Communists didn't count because Communists are subhuman?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Wasn't there a Buddhist extremist group that believed killing Communists didn't count because Communists are subhuman?
No idea. But Japanese among others (regarding their own cultural identity) didn't see anyone but Japanese (and specifically Southern Japanese) as human either... so it wouldn't shock me to know there was some sect that put that very common eastern idea directed at communists. Particularly considering what communists did to anyone who wasn't. (edited)
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really? why is it so rare?
DevilTheAutopoet 4/3/2023 11:57 PM
I think the last major organisation that held Centrist Marxist views dissolved in like 1980. I'm honestly not familiar enough with the history of it to know why exactly that happened, but it seems like that pretty much spelled the death knell for the ideology itself.
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I think the last major organisation that held Centrist Marxist views dissolved in like 1980. I'm honestly not familiar enough with the history of it to know why exactly that happened, but it seems like that pretty much spelled the death knell for the ideology itself.
Doesn't make creating a new oligarchic hegemony easier when you seek to simply revolutionize thought.
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Far easier to install your preferred oligarchs when you kill the previous ones.
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Funny part is, I'll bet Trump literally doesn't know all those things were criminal.
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Like if you got the chance to ask him if he'd done anything wrong he'd list off a hundred names of more wealthy/powerful men than him who did the same or worse. So obviously it can't be wrong.
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Not that he'd admit those people were more wealthy or powerful than him... but still.
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Ironically, he's right. If he'd not tried to become king... he'd probably not be charged with anything... can't have the oligarchs bow to a king afterall.
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Like if you got the chance to ask him if he'd done anything wrong he'd list off a hundred names of more wealthy/powerful men than him who did the same or worse. So obviously it can't be wrong.
If Trump accidentally takes down several Oligarchs with him, I'll fucking thank him (in the meanest and spiteful way possible) In front of a pro trump church near where I live
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"Thank you illegit President Trump for taking down half of the gop with you!"
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During DeSantis’ evening address inside the venue, the governor was heckled by at least one very vocal Trump supporter.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/4/2023 5:06 AM
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/4/2023 10:49 AM
Place your bets; shots gonna be fired related to trump’s arrest today?
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DevilTheAutopoet 4/4/2023 10:53 AM
I only vote no because the leaders of all of the biggest MAGA militias are either on trial or in prison now, so there's nobody to really lead the charge. Though I suppose it would only take one crazy asshole.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Place your bets; shots gonna be fired related to trump’s arrest today?
trump was arrested?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/4/2023 10:54 AM
god damn they even have FDNY staging
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trump was arrested?
floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/4/2023 10:54 AM
how have you not heard lmao
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he got indicted a few days ago
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
how have you not heard lmao
hes been arrested?
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indictments dont mean arrestment
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/4/2023 11:04 AM
not yet but he’s about to be
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this guy really is more stupid then i remember
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i just checked the conversation and he actually said that
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not yet but he’s about to be
was there an announcement saying he would be?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/4/2023 11:08 AM
yes
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he literally said he’s surrendering himself today
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
he literally said he’s surrendering himself today
what?
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i need a source
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/4/2023 11:16 AM
that’s why i just don’t get into arguments on reddit. they never go anywhere, are pointless, and just make people upset
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what?
floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/4/2023 11:17 AM
bad reception so i can’t upload screenshots but a 5 second google search basically screams it at you
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
that’s why i just don’t get into arguments on reddit. they never go anywhere, are pointless, and just make people upset
teah
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he was not the smartist
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when im wrong i try to learn
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it seems like his ideology has closed his mind
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this guy really is more stupid then i remember
DevilTheAutopoet 4/4/2023 11:18 AM
Yeah, I loved when the OP asked him "Do you even know what private property is?" And his response was "Property owned by one or several entities." Like... no. That's just... property. If that's what "private property" means then the term itself is redundant, because that's literally just property.
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Yeah, I loved when the OP asked him "Do you even know what private property is?" And his response was "Property owned by one or several entities." Like... no. That's just... property. If that's what "private property" means then the term itself is redundant, because that's literally just property.
i dont think he reads theory
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RebelKitty 4/4/2023 1:51 PM
Mt. Dew Komacho is now the one going to jail. The Idiocracy remake is pretty lit so far 🔥
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21st Century be wildin'
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Real shame we passed on this guy imo. Truly not the hero we deserved.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/4/2023 1:55 PM
BASED
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SO BASED
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He is quite
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Emphatically Based.
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RebelKitty 4/4/2023 3:16 PM
If fragile masculinity was a country it'd be the 21st Century Russian Federation fr.
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Hey can y'all help me understand the appeal of anarchy
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I like the idea of a government not telling me what to do, and the idea that communities protect themselves without the need for police, but I don't like the idea of no government at all
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Who's gonna run the post offices n shit?
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I like the idea of a government not telling me what to do, and the idea that communities protect themselves without the need for police, but I don't like the idea of no government at all
I think you sorta misunderstand it a bit.
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Who's gonna run the post offices n shit?
floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/4/2023 4:27 PM
who’s gonna do the dishes?
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it doesn’t matter who, but at some point someone’s gonna
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either everyone works together on it or someone agrees to do it themselves
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So there would still be some organization, at least collective residences and workspaces. Those would make up all the things capitalism or government do currently.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/4/2023 4:28 PM
that’s a good analogy i’ve heard
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That said things like USPS won't really be necessary. You'll likely have nomadic collectives or individuals who like living in the road that do most of solid good transport as a byproduct. Most of mail is for legal or check delivery. Or capitalist marketing spam... Remove money, remove contract law, and remove corporate marketing, you'll have very little post.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/4/2023 4:32 PM
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Currently socialized things like fire fighting would be communalized like in rural volunteer FDs.
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What's the difference between socialized and communalized?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/4/2023 4:34 PM
ooh yeah, volunteer fire departments are a great example of how some things would be under an anarchist system
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What's the difference between socialized and communalized?
Socialized means a government controls it. Communalized means the community controls it. Usually via consensus.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/4/2023 4:36 PM
anarchism can really be thought of like making the national government downsized 15,000x to your local neighborhood
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and in a voluntary manner
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it’s not nothing, it’s just a lot of very tiny things
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Socialized means a government controls it. Communalized means the community controls it. Usually via consensus.
But how is that consensus reached? A vote?
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I live in CT and in New England we use a town system that apparently isn't used in the rest of the country
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The town is the basic unit of local government and local division of state authority in the six New England states. Most other U.S. states lack a direct counterpart to the New England town. New England towns overlay the entire area of a state, similar to civil townships in other states where they exist, but they are fully functioning municipal c...
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But how is that consensus reached? A vote?
floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/4/2023 4:56 PM
yeah, though of course if you’re busy you’d probably be able to delegate a representative or someone else to vote or decide on your behalf
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but this is talking about a hypothetical commune whose rules are processes are not remotely universal in any sense
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I've been thinking about this since my gf mentioned she thinks "there shouldn't be countries"
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Like we shouldn't have national identities
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I understand why people think that, since over inflated national identities is how we get facism, but idk if throwing out the idea of government would be progress
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I'm coming at the perspective of "would this be physically possible to have at the scale of the current United States?" Rather than just hypothetically speaking about far fetched ideas
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Eventually I'd like to run for local government and when that happens I want a good Socialist pitch
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I want to be able to launch a political career that makes my community better, without alienating all the stupid affluent white people who think the ghost of stalin is guiding my policy
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/4/2023 5:19 PM
If you can talk socialist policy without using socialist words, most people will agree
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i’ve seen videos of guys at trump protests getting them to agree with a redistribution of wealth
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I'm coming at the perspective of "would this be physically possible to have at the scale of the current United States?" Rather than just hypothetically speaking about far fetched ideas
DevilTheAutopoet 4/4/2023 5:21 PM
Well, currently the largest anarchist-ish intentional territory is Rojava. Which has a population of about 2 million. There's also the Sarvodaya Shramadana, who don't hold territory but have about 11 million beneficiaries of their anarchism inspired self-governance system. And, if you include unintentional territories, there's Zomia, a name given to the Southeast Asian Massif where state programs have difficulty reaching and where enforcement of state policy is next to impossible due to cultural and geographic conditions. People in that territory have lived largely by anarchic means of organization since before the dawn of civilization. And there's about 100 million people that live there.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/4/2023 5:25 PM
Don’t forget Chiapas, which is very anarchistic
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i’ve seen videos of guys at trump protests getting them to agree with a redistribution of wealth
DevilTheAutopoet 4/4/2023 5:25 PM
That's true, and there's definitely an extent to which we can play to that. A lot of rural people actually already live in fairly socialist ways, often organizing through the Church or town hall to ensure that everyone's needs are met. That's part of why you'll occasionally hear the odd Trumper saying, for example, that they don't understand why we need money.
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Don’t forget Chiapas, which is very anarchistic
DevilTheAutopoet 4/4/2023 5:26 PM
It is. Smaller in population though. About 300,000 iirc.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/4/2023 5:26 PM
Ah, fair
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Honestly I’ve never even heard of Zomia, I’ve got to read about that
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But how is that consensus reached? A vote?
I posted a consensus proceedure process that has been in use in several organizations over the past 3 years with a 94% consensus success rate the first time through. It should be in #organization
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Don’t forget Chiapas, which is very anarchistic
The Zapatista are a true modernized indigenous egalitarian federation of collectives. Probably the best current example I know of. (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/4/2023 9:19 PM
Weren't you down there for a while?
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Weren't you down there for a while?
No my mother, she was invited to witness the forming of the EZLN over the 8 years leading to their declaration of war against Mexico. (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/4/2023 9:20 PM
Ahhh
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But Ashanti Alston former Black Panther Maoist went down there and came back all "I'm an Anarchist now."
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You can see and hear the awe he had for them in his speech on his experience. https://youtu.be/kYQ8N6sit2E
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The first year my mother came back from spending 6 months there, she was terrified they would be crushed by the Mexican government. The 8th year she came back she was certain they'd succeed. It took 8 years for them to plan, create, and organize their rebellion. And that's with the active participants in the planning spending nearly all day every day talking to the members of their pueblos, and taking those concerns and ideas back to the table to continue planning. The whole time they were covertly gathering weapons, medicine, stockpiling food, building shelters, creating the foundation for the community that would be... doing the work to be independent of Mexico.
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BubsyFanboy 4/5/2023 6:58 AM
The close ties between Poland’s ruling Law & Justice party and the church appear to be alienating voters, says Maria Skóra, a research associate at Institut für Europäische Politik
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this stalinist is a top tier idiot
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all i said is that karl kautsky would have supported the second answer on the definition of the state
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and he tried to start a tirade
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DevilTheAutopoet 4/5/2023 9:59 AM
Kautsky was one of the closest contemporary students of Marx. He was counted amongst the Orthodox Marxists. You can disagree with him as much as you want, I do, but to say he was revisionist is a little ridiculous. By any standard by which Kautsky could be called a revisionist, Lenin would also be a revisionist, much less Stalin.
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Kautsky was one of the closest contemporary students of Marx. He was counted amongst the Orthodox Marxists. You can disagree with him as much as you want, I do, but to say he was revisionist is a little ridiculous. By any standard by which Kautsky could be called a revisionist, Lenin would also be a revisionist, much less Stalin.
exactly, he is anything but a revisionist
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so its more revisionist of him to hate on kautsky as a stalinist
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honestly that whole exchange left me confused
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but now i believe that stalinists cant read
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also the guy called him an imperialist
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which is funny
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because he left the spd due to opposing the first world war
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honestly that whole exchange left me confused
DevilTheAutopoet 4/5/2023 10:05 AM
Yeah, cause he himself said in a separate comment that the second answer was the Marxist answer.
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So it seems really weird for him to get upset at you pointing out that Kautsky would agree with that answer.
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hes likely made that i made him remember that kautsky was both an anti statist and orthodox marxist
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alot of people dont realise how similar the original forms of communism and anarchism are
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now this guy is saying kautsky was reformist
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he was a centrist
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centrist support reform and revolution
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/5/2023 10:37 AM
Tbh I think most communists are frauds. All the communists I've known couldn't be bothered to do their own dishes, or do anything to meaningfully contribute to their own households and communities even when called out of their hypocrisy. Hard to agree with folks who never walk the walk.
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I will say they absolutely skewer our current capitalistic system, correctly identifying many of our problems. But their solutions I don't have a ton of faith in. I think we're better off acting like European Nations, where we put in guardrails and strong safety nets to rein in the worst parts of capitalism and to lift up the common man like the best parts of socialism.
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Tbh I think most communists are frauds. All the communists I've known couldn't be bothered to do their own dishes, or do anything to meaningfully contribute to their own households and communities even when called out of their hypocrisy. Hard to agree with folks who never walk the walk.
Looool. This is too true. At least for the majority I know.
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DevilTheAutopoet 4/5/2023 12:49 PM
Yeah, I disagree about social democracy being a better system, but I've definitely noticed a trend of armchair Marxists, especially online, who never do shit because "muh material conditions" and who dismiss all of their shitty behavior with either "no ethical consumption under capitalism" or "so is socialism when no...?" or, my personal favorite, "harm reduction deflates political consciousness and delays the revolution". So basically they want to feign moral and intellectual superiority over everyone else while taking no serious action whatsoever and not changing anything about the way they live.
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Yeah, I disagree about social democracy being a better system, but I've definitely noticed a trend of armchair Marxists, especially online, who never do shit because "muh material conditions" and who dismiss all of their shitty behavior with either "no ethical consumption under capitalism" or "so is socialism when no...?" or, my personal favorite, "harm reduction deflates political consciousness and delays the revolution". So basically they want to feign moral and intellectual superiority over everyone else while taking no serious action whatsoever and not changing anything about the way they live.
They are waiting for their moment to rise above the common role they've been assigned by capitalism, to become part of a glorious revolution where their name will be immortalized by their heroic deeds. And also too goddamned cowardly to instigate the moment, partly because they know those instigators will almost certainly die, and partly because it means creating a false flag that attacks innocents. But they don't want to admit that their ideology requires that to kick off the revolution because then it exposes them for the bloodthirsty fucks they are.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/5/2023 4:14 PM
Hi so was nobody else told about the immigrant detention center fire last week that killed 40
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AvoidOblivion 4/5/2023 5:15 PM
I read about that on the news. Workers there were seen walking away just before/as the fire started.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/5/2023 5:39 PM
ATLANTA (AP) — A new Georgia commission to discipline and remove wayward prosecutors would be the latest move nationwide to ratchet up oversight on what Republicans see as “woke prosecutors” who aren't doing enough to fight crime.
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Yeah, I disagree about social democracy being a better system, but I've definitely noticed a trend of armchair Marxists, especially online, who never do shit because "muh material conditions" and who dismiss all of their shitty behavior with either "no ethical consumption under capitalism" or "so is socialism when no...?" or, my personal favorite, "harm reduction deflates political consciousness and delays the revolution". So basically they want to feign moral and intellectual superiority over everyone else while taking no serious action whatsoever and not changing anything about the way they live.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/5/2023 6:23 PM
Devil what do you think the better system is then?
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Imo our current system of crony capitalism looks, smells, and tastes like worship of mammon. Aside from Social Democracy to put the worst parts of human greed into check while preserving the individual incentive - I really don't have any better ideas myself.
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Tbh I think most communists are frauds. All the communists I've known couldn't be bothered to do their own dishes, or do anything to meaningfully contribute to their own households and communities even when called out of their hypocrisy. Hard to agree with folks who never walk the walk.
hey
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im lazy
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but that doesnt change my ideology
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/5/2023 7:12 PM
If you can't bother to contribute to your own personal direct community of people that you see and interact with on a daily basis without personal incentive, how can you expect an entire society to contribute to their fellow countrymen without personal incentive?
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My point is if you can't walk the walk as a believer, how can you expect your ideology to actually work for anyone?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/5/2023 9:30 PM
"Young people in some parishes were preyed upon by multiple abusers over decades," the state's top prosecutor said after a 4-year investigation.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Hi so was nobody else told about the immigrant detention center fire last week that killed 40
You weren't watching, listening to or reading the news last week? (edited)
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I read about that on the news. Workers there were seen walking away just before/as the fire started.
Not surprising
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Wonder if they'll actually investigate it
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Although I think it was on the Mexican side of the border
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AvoidOblivion 4/5/2023 9:52 PM
It was.
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Does the republican party run on policy, performance, or culture?
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AvoidOblivion 4/5/2023 10:07 PM
Fear.
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I'm noting their inability to change and be flexible in changing times.
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Fear.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/5/2023 10:10 PM
And Loathing.
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I'm noting their inability to change and be flexible in changing times.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/5/2023 10:10 PM
That's the whole point of conservatism: being resistant to change.
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Sigh, I just somewhere hope that they are at least pragmatic enough to change in order to avoid becoming irrelevant.
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Personal suggestion: don't get your hopes up. The GQP would rather burn the country to the ground than give even a inch to the "left"
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It isn't about giving an inch to the left, it's about becoming more moderate to win more votes and beat the left.
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It isn't about giving an inch to the left, it's about becoming more moderate to win more votes and beat the left.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/5/2023 10:20 PM
Have you seen their rhetoric lately?
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They don't become more moderate. They double the fuck down.
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LessthanLoneWolf 4/5/2023 10:21 PM
Rep. Tricia Cotham was once a leading opponent of Republican abortion restrictions in North Carolina. As of yesterday, she’s a Republican.
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Fucking wolves in sheep’s clothing. I’d love to know how they slipped through the cracks
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/5/2023 10:21 PM
Their response to the Club Q shooting was basically "This is gonna keep happening until the left stops mutilating kids.".
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They want every single person who doesn't follow their ideology dead.
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It isn't about giving an inch to the left, it's about becoming more moderate to win more votes and beat the left.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/5/2023 11:27 PM
That doesn't seem to be their strategy. Rather, they seem to instead be trying to do whatever they can to limit the number of people able to vote and gerrymander as much as they can so they can have an increasingly outsized level power relative to their dwindling support base.
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Does the republican party run on policy, performance, or culture?
Culture, I suppose
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That's what they focus on
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Dems want Biden to do a strat of just focusing on "real issues" like wages, pollution, social security, college accessibility, etc instead of the drag queens shit and whatnot that Reps obsess over
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Devil what do you think the better system is then?
DevilTheAutopoet 4/5/2023 11:40 PM
Well I'm pretty big on democracy and consent. So economic democracy systems rooted in consensus decision-making processes is my preference. Of course that still leaves a wide range of potential models. Being a student of the Sraffian school of economic thought myself, I naturally tend to be fond of Robin Hahnel and Michael Albert's ParEcon model. It's just... so beautifully efficient. Enough to render the math/game theory geek in me absolutely starstruck. But, I also recognise that as a revolutionary socialist I can only really be so prescriptive. The truth is the conditions of the post-revolutionary economy will be determined by the conditions of the revolution itself. This is why it's necessary to engage in self-crit and analysis as we seek to build dual power systems. Whether it be worker coops, consumer coops, labor unions, tenant unions, mutual aid, community gardens, RRFM's, common storehouses of goods, libraries of things, food banks, or whatever else, we must be conscious of what systems we're relying on more, which we're finding more success with, and ensuring that we're setting them up in a way that is simultaneously efficient and humane so that as many people as possible are having their needs and wants met, as these systems that we set up in the shadow of capitalism as forms of dual power and counterpower will be the systems that drive the post-capitalist economy. (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/5/2023 11:49 PM
what i love about anarchy is that it is so ultimately customizable and tailorable (edited)
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If you can't bother to contribute to your own personal direct community of people that you see and interact with on a daily basis without personal incentive, how can you expect an entire society to contribute to their fellow countrymen without personal incentive?
i try to contribute to the community (edited)
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but in my house im lazy
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
what i love about anarchy is that it is so ultimately customizable and tailorable (edited)
DevilTheAutopoet 4/5/2023 11:58 PM
It's why I despise the infighting I see over petty economic bullshit amongst anarchists. Mutualists, Syndicalists, Collectivists, Communists, and whatever else at each others' throats over their imagined visions of what optimal anarchist society would look like. As I said, the conditions of the post-revolutionary economy will be determined by the conditions of the revolution itself. So rather than bitching at each other about which currently imaginary economic system we should be striving for, we should be discussing what we're going to do together for the revolution.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/5/2023 11:58 PM
Exactly!
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It's why I've forgone the label of anarcho-communist and just call myself an anarchist now
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Prefixes preclude praxis
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If you can't bother to contribute to your own personal direct community of people that you see and interact with on a daily basis without personal incentive, how can you expect an entire society to contribute to their fellow countrymen without personal incentive?
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/6/2023 12:11 AM
That's why I joined the SRA. I want to do more than sit on my ass and type. I can only hope my chapter actually allows me to do so.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/6/2023 12:24 AM
If nothing else, they can hopefully give you some training even if it’s not the best environment for much else
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Imo our current system of crony capitalism looks, smells, and tastes like worship of mammon. Aside from Social Democracy to put the worst parts of human greed into check while preserving the individual incentive - I really don't have any better ideas myself.
Are you referring to the capitalist line that capitalism incentivizes productivity via wages? Because that's absolutely untrue. I can introduce you to a hundred people tomorrow who all could be making more money doing something other than what they are doing, and they are happier and more productive than they ever were doing the other things.
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My point is if you can't walk the walk as a believer, how can you expect your ideology to actually work for anyone?
You are aware aren't you that the existing capitalist wage slavery makes it virtually impossible for most people to have energy or spare time to devote to working for others? The whole system is designed to keep people working for the capitalists, and occupying any free time they may get with innocent good capitalist actions like watching sports, or going to the movies, as a distraction from their existence as a wage slave.
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It is vastly irresponsible to assume that a collectivist ideology cannot work when your only context to put it in is the existing corporate slave state system.
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If you show people how, provide a blueprint for them to use, to escape that financial slavery, there will be a lot of people who jump at the chance. After which they will have the spare energy and time to do more things for their community. (edited)
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Are you referring to the capitalist line that capitalism incentivizes productivity via wages? Because that's absolutely untrue. I can introduce you to a hundred people tomorrow who all could be making more money doing something other than what they are doing, and they are happier and more productive than they ever were doing the other things.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/6/2023 1:00 AM
case in point; i'm way more productive working on an ambulance compared to working at Sonic even though I make less money, because I love being an EMT.
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i'm going out of my way to do chores and menial stuff at the station because even being there gives me a sense of purpose
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case in point; i'm way more productive working on an ambulance compared to working at Sonic even though I make less money, because I love being an EMT.
And you'd probably do the job even if there wasn't any financial compensation, if in turn giving that money to capitalists wasn't necessary for survival.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/6/2023 1:01 AM
exactly
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i'd do it for free if i had to live at the station 24/7 (edited)
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I would design and build collective residences for others to use, and aid them in developing their internal decision-making processes... I'd do that very well... and as long as all my needs were met I wouldn't need financial compensation.
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Or for that matter I would captain a transport ship forever for free supporting collectives... so long as they provided what I needed to operate the ship.
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In the first case, my incentive would be the joy in someone's eyes knowing they would forever have a roof over their head and a way to support their basic needs. In the second, the ocean would be my primary reward. The secondary would be the welcoming greetings I would get from a collective I delivered stuff too.
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I could die happy doing either without a single dime worth of personal wealth.
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It is vastly irresponsible to assume that a collectivist ideology cannot work when your only context to put it in is the existing corporate slave state system.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/6/2023 1:22 AM
A quote I like that's not totally relevant but definitely related: "Watching people living under capitalism and saying it's human nature to be selfish and greedy is like watching people underwater and saying it's human nature to drown."
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BubsyFanboy 4/6/2023 4:17 AM
Source: the American Asspull Institute
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This was in response to Elon Musk talking about NPR being state-owned
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BubsyFanboy 4/6/2023 4:49 AM
So... why is NPR being labeled as US state-affiliated media, but the actual US state-affiliated media orgs aren't?
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Black Magic 4/6/2023 6:44 AM
It’s human nature to be lazy and laziness allows selfishness and greed to prosper
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Corruption is easy, maintaining strong bearucratic institutions is hard
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BubsyFanboy 4/6/2023 8:16 AM
In Russia, authorities have arrested an LGBTQ couple for allegedly violating the country's homophobic 'gay propaganda' law.
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It’s human nature to be lazy and laziness allows selfishness and greed to prosper
DevilTheAutopoet 4/6/2023 8:24 AM
People are only lazy when they're not rewarded for their labor. The average worker in the US produces about $152,000 in value per year. Meanwhile the median annual earnings in the US is $41,535. In contrast, the average worker in the US working in a coop, where they're actually paid in accordance to the value of their labor, produces about $325,000 in value per year.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/6/2023 8:47 AM
jesus christ the cops in Florida abducted a kid for posting this fucking meme
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JFK's nephew said his top priority would be to "end the corrupt merger between state and corporate power".
Democrat Robert F. Kennedy Jr., an anti-vaccine activist and scion of one of the country’s most famous political families, has announced he will run for president. Kennedy filed a statement of candidacy Wednesday with the Federal Election Commission. The 69-year-old’s campaign to challenge incumbent President Joe Biden for the Democratic nominat...
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If you show people how, provide a blueprint for them to use, to escape that financial slavery, there will be a lot of people who jump at the chance. After which they will have the spare energy and time to do more things for their community. (edited)
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/6/2023 12:20 PM
Happy to move this to a more private discussion, as I'm genuinely interested in hearing you out. However, from what I'm understanding here, you're chalking up the Free Rider Problem as a consequence of people being tired from work? Please understand, as a wage slave myself I am not at all unsympathetic to our shared plight of having our time stolen from us only to be rewarded with pennies and more time stolen - But living without these shackles doesn't necessarily mean people will automatically become less self-centered and be more willing to contribute time and energy to their communities without direct personal reward. To be clear, I would love for a collectivist ideology to work because I myself regularly take the time and energy to contribute towards my community and it is a thankless role that I would sooner not undertake so seemingly alone. It just seems radically ignorant of human nature, much like capitalism in that regard... (edited)
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Corruption is easy, maintaining strong bearucratic institutions is hard
You are simply wrong about human nature.
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Happy to move this to a more private discussion, as I'm genuinely interested in hearing you out. However, from what I'm understanding here, you're chalking up the Free Rider Problem as a consequence of people being tired from work? Please understand, as a wage slave myself I am not at all unsympathetic to our shared plight of having our time stolen from us only to be rewarded with pennies and more time stolen - But living without these shackles doesn't necessarily mean people will automatically become less self-centered and be more willing to contribute time and energy to their communities without direct personal reward. To be clear, I would love for a collectivist ideology to work because I myself regularly take the time and energy to contribute towards my community and it is a thankless role that I would sooner not undertake so seemingly alone. It just seems radically ignorant of human nature, much like capitalism in that regard... (edited)
Again your basic premise is false. You are parroting propaganda from capitalists.
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Our nature determined by over nine million years of hominid evolution is to help one another. Our ancient predecessors would voluntarily tend injured members of the clan such that they could recover. We have hominid skeletons from millions of years ago with healed femur breaks. Any other species before or since except hominids would leave such a member of the family behind to die. We have an entire section of the brain responsible for giving us what amounts to a cocaine bump whenever we help someone else. It is culture, specifically capitalism and it's feudal predecessors which contradicts that. And almost universally only those at the top ever really demonstrate truly selfish actions.
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I believe you are seeing the result of a sick and dying society, raped by the greedy elite and assuming everyone would do the same if given the chance. Only narcissists and psychopaths are prone to that. And they do not make up the majority of the population.
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Everywhere, every day, most people do something to help their nearest community members. In spite of being overworked and used by the elites they help one another. It might not be in big ways... But if it weren't for the little assistances we give we'd have died as a species long ago.
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Our nature determined by over nine million years of hominid evolution is to help one another. Our ancient predecessors would voluntarily tend injured members of the clan such that they could recover. We have hominid skeletons from millions of years ago with healed femur breaks. Any other species before or since except hominids would leave such a member of the family behind to die. We have an entire section of the brain responsible for giving us what amounts to a cocaine bump whenever we help someone else. It is culture, specifically capitalism and it's feudal predecessors which contradicts that. And almost universally only those at the top ever really demonstrate truly selfish actions.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/6/2023 1:17 PM
This is actually why, amongst the wealthy, it's counterintuitively the case that people who come from family money are often better people than those who truly started from the bottom. To make your way to the top from the bottom in capitalism, you have to scrape and claw your way up, stepping over and exploiting people as you go. To have family money, you just have to be born in the right circumstances (or the wrong ones depending on your perspective). One of the best examples of this is Oprah, who is one of the very few truly self-made billionaires. But in her journey to the top, she did things like, for example, helping Harvey Weinstein to rape other women. The system blatantly rewards soullessness. (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/6/2023 1:25 PM
human nature is extremely collectivist; it has to be so, with the evolutionary examples Spinner gave.
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If you were on a rural road and saw the person in front of you lose control and hit a tree head on, you wouldn’t just drive by and say “Damn, sucks to be them.” You’d get out and at least call 911 for them, you wouldn’t worry about getting money for it.
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We’re made to help each other as the first thought that comes to our mind; artificial scarcity on physical and emotional needs created by capitalism has polluted that.
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If you were on a rural road and saw the person in front of you lose control and hit a tree head on, you wouldn’t just drive by and say “Damn, sucks to be them.” You’d get out and at least call 911 for them, you wouldn’t worry about getting money for it.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/6/2023 1:31 PM
This^^^ The very fact that so many examples of mass altruism exist even in spite of capitalism incentivizing the exact opposite is the ultimate proof of what human nature actually is. For example the abundance of open-source software and torrent hosting. Why do these things exist? For the same reason that we hold the door open for each other. It's natural, and it feels good.
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Our nature determined by over nine million years of hominid evolution is to help one another. Our ancient predecessors would voluntarily tend injured members of the clan such that they could recover. We have hominid skeletons from millions of years ago with healed femur breaks. Any other species before or since except hominids would leave such a member of the family behind to die. We have an entire section of the brain responsible for giving us what amounts to a cocaine bump whenever we help someone else. It is culture, specifically capitalism and it's feudal predecessors which contradicts that. And almost universally only those at the top ever really demonstrate truly selfish actions.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/6/2023 1:35 PM
I would contend though that we're far from the only taxon that engages in altruistic behavior. We're the only altruistic taxon with opposable thumbs and high intelligence, which is why we're the only ones that engage in medicine and healing as a particular altruistic behavior. We're literally the only ones capable of it. But there's many other species that probably would if they could.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/6/2023 2:20 PM
Thank you everyone for sharing your viewpoints. I'm not entirely convinced honestly, but I will say I'm rather touched by your faith in the Human Race, as well as who and what we could become if unshackled from this worship of Mammon.
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I simply don't have the confidence that there is the unseen well of Human Altruism simply waiting to burst forth if we weren't crawling over each other to survive. It's a lovely thought, but an untested one as what you are suggesting really hasn't occurred in large scale human society in the industrial age. Y'all are asking us to bet it all that the Human Race is much nicer than we appear to be.
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Course, with Climate Change posing an existential threat to the survival of our species, maybe it's time for a hail mary -
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I simply don't have the confidence that there is the unseen well of Human Altruism simply waiting to burst forth if we weren't crawling over each other to survive. It's a lovely thought, but an untested one as what you are suggesting really hasn't occurred in large scale human society in the industrial age. Y'all are asking us to bet it all that the Human Race is much nicer than we appear to be.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/6/2023 2:40 PM
Actually it has occurred on a mass scale before. In fact, it was the norm for most of human history. Remember that capitalism is an extremely recent phenomenon. I highly recommend reading Dawn of Everything by David Graeber.
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I simply don't have the confidence that there is the unseen well of Human Altruism simply waiting to burst forth if we weren't crawling over each other to survive. It's a lovely thought, but an untested one as what you are suggesting really hasn't occurred in large scale human society in the industrial age. Y'all are asking us to bet it all that the Human Race is much nicer than we appear to be.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/6/2023 2:44 PM
As for the caveat of "in the industrial age", I would point to examples such as the Zapatistas, Rojava, the Sarvodaya Shramadana, and Zomia.
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Thank you everyone for sharing your viewpoints. I'm not entirely convinced honestly, but I will say I'm rather touched by your faith in the Human Race, as well as who and what we could become if unshackled from this worship of Mammon.
I'm certainly not saying we're saints or anything, people fucked up as kids by parents and other adults aka Narcissists, people with trauma based paraphernalia, and people with CPTSD who never get help can be fucking horrible to others. And those with impaired paralimbic systems are literally monstrous. But on average we have over 9 million years of reinforced genetic development that promotes the opposite while nothing in our development supports being shitty to one another. Except imperialist or capitalist structures. Which are contrary to our development.
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Actually it has occurred on a mass scale before. In fact, it was the norm for most of human history. Remember that capitalism is an extremely recent phenomenon. I highly recommend reading Dawn of Everything by David Graeber.
Well capitalism's precursors have been around in various forms since about 4000BC. But then they were highly influenced by the existing egalitarian structures. It took mass murder, imperialism, and genocide to start to eradicate egalitarianism in the east and west.
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Black Magic 4/6/2023 2:55 PM
Guys.. we are more than one thing
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And... 8k years over the over 120k history of H.Sapien is really small.
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Well capitalism's precursors have been around in various forms since about 4000BC. But then they were highly influenced by the existing egalitarian structures. It took mass murder, imperialism, and genocide to start to eradicate egalitarianism in the east and west.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/6/2023 2:55 PM
True, and I would also point out that in the grand scheme of human existence, even taking all of "civilization" and "civilized economies" as capitalism's predecessors, that still makes it a mere blip in the 300,000 years of the existence of anatomically modern humans. (edited)
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Black Magic 4/6/2023 2:56 PM
We have complex interests that make us both cooperative and competitive
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We have complex interests that make us both cooperative and competitive
Competitive I argue against. Particularly in the manner it's used today. Once upon a time competition was reserved for bettering the tribe/clan by inspiring individuals to be the best they can be. We've corrupted that.
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The difference is perspective. You rejoiced in someone else beating you at something because you knew it made the clan/tribe as a whole better. We place individual importance on competition now, because it's how we train kids to be cutthroat.
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Even in team sports capitalist ideology has driven out the collective viewpoint that was around even as recently as the 90s.
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Competitive I argue against. Particularly in the manner it's used today. Once upon a time competition was reserved for bettering the tribe/clan by inspiring individuals to be the best they can be. We've corrupted that.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/6/2023 3:02 PM
Same with debates. Originally it was an exchange of ideas and the goal was to get the other person to see things your way for a while. Now it's all about proving your side correct and being "intellectually superior", whatever that means.
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I will say though that the most successful teams are the ones that ignore that even as their marketing teams push it to the public. KC Chiefs are a great example, as a team they celebrate the whole and work as a team well. But the public only hears Mahomes this and Mahomes that.
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Actually it has occurred on a mass scale before. In fact, it was the norm for most of human history. Remember that capitalism is an extremely recent phenomenon. I highly recommend reading Dawn of Everything by David Graeber.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/6/2023 3:11 PM
Checked it out of the digital library and will give it a read thanks
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I'm certainly not saying we're saints or anything, people fucked up as kids by parents and other adults aka Narcissists, people with trauma based paraphernalia, and people with CPTSD who never get help can be fucking horrible to others. And those with impaired paralimbic systems are literally monstrous. But on average we have over 9 million years of reinforced genetic development that promotes the opposite while nothing in our development supports being shitty to one another. Except imperialist or capitalist structures. Which are contrary to our development.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/6/2023 3:17 PM
My concern with appealing to genetic influences for cooperation is that we're literally progressing faster technologically than our genetics can keep up with. We're predisposed to personally give a shit about a few hundred people at the maximum, and yet we are in Nations of hundreds of millions and number in the billions. While we may have acted differently in the dawn before human civilization, the game has changed now, and the old rules of our species may not apply the same way. Taking Climate Change as an example, on a 4ºC Earth, "Return to Monke" is simply no longer possible.
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We have complex interests that make us both cooperative and competitive
DevilTheAutopoet 4/6/2023 3:36 PM
I agree with this actually. In fact, I would personally take this further and assert that "human nature" itself is a bit of a facetious narrative. In fact, part of the point of the quote that I gave earlier was to mock the concept of "human nature" as some static thing that exists independently of external conditions. To this, I would suggest that this reality itself justifies the construction of society and the economy with the intent of fostering cooperative behaviors over competitive behaviors. Or at least of only fostering competition when it's healthy to do so, as opposed to the toxic dog eat dog style of competition found in capitalism. What I find interesting here is that you only suddenly became willing to admit to the complexity of people as a counterpoint to the notion of "human nature" after we asserted the existence of altruistic tendencies amongst humans as a challenge to the capitalist narrative that human nature is necessarily competitive. Before that point, you were perfectly willing to make blanket statements about human nature to defend capitalism, asserting that it is human nature to be lazy and that this fosters selfishness and greed. So, in your mind, does a static and consistent human nature only exist when its characteristics are beneficial to the metanarratives of capitalism? Or are you simply alternating between contradictory claims as necessary to suit your perspectives and preexisting biases?
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My concern with appealing to genetic influences for cooperation is that we're literally progressing faster technologically than our genetics can keep up with. We're predisposed to personally give a shit about a few hundred people at the maximum, and yet we are in Nations of hundreds of millions and number in the billions. While we may have acted differently in the dawn before human civilization, the game has changed now, and the old rules of our species may not apply the same way. Taking Climate Change as an example, on a 4ºC Earth, "Return to Monke" is simply no longer possible.
Don't devolve my statements to Return to Monkee.
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My concern with appealing to genetic influences for cooperation is that we're literally progressing faster technologically than our genetics can keep up with. We're predisposed to personally give a shit about a few hundred people at the maximum, and yet we are in Nations of hundreds of millions and number in the billions. While we may have acted differently in the dawn before human civilization, the game has changed now, and the old rules of our species may not apply the same way. Taking Climate Change as an example, on a 4ºC Earth, "Return to Monke" is simply no longer possible.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/6/2023 3:55 PM
I've heard this assertion made before that we're only genetically predisposed to care about a handful of people, but I haven't actually seen scientific research to back that up. Rather, it seems to be more of an assumption made by certain evolutionary psychologists based on the fact that the human population used to be a lot smaller. Putting aside the fact that this necessarily discounts how quickly we can and do adapt to change, it also seems contrary to the empirical reality of other species and of how species evolve. For example, hymenoptera, due to their haplodiploid reproductive systems, maintain a level of cohesion amongst even very large numbers that even we can't replicate (yet). But... many of these species are not that much older than we are. And by the nature of these things, they would've started out in small numbers as well. But that very clearly doesn't preclude them from caring about more than a few hundred people. Furthermore, this argument about technology evolving faster than we do fails to consider the fact that this also acts as a benefit. You and I are conversing and coordinating through this server together despite a massive distance barrier. And that's only feasible because of the development of communications technology. So I don't see how technology developing faster than we do precludes us from coordinating to solve large problems. If anything, it seems to facilitate it. (edited)
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It's also vastly fucked to suggest that pre historical societies were primitive or simplistic. They were not. And the presentation of them as such is remarkably ethnocentric.
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They were complex and diverse... But a nearly universal shared trait was egalitarianism with a multitude of variations.
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I've heard this assertion made before that we're only genetically predisposed to care about a handful of people, but I haven't actually seen scientific research to back that up. Rather, it seems to be more of an assumption made by certain evolutionary psychologists based on the fact that the human population used to be a lot smaller. Putting aside the fact that this necessarily discounts how quickly we can and do adapt to change, it also seems contrary to the empirical reality of other species and of how species evolve. For example, hymenoptera, due to their haplodiploid reproductive systems, maintain a level of cohesion amongst even very large numbers that even we can't replicate (yet). But... many of these species are not that much older than we are. And by the nature of these things, they would've started out in small numbers as well. But that very clearly doesn't preclude them from caring about more than a few hundred people. Furthermore, this argument about technology evolving faster than we do fails to consider the fact that this also acts as a benefit. You and I are conversing and coordinating through this server together despite a massive distance barrier. And that's only feasible because of the development of communications technology. So I don't see how technology developing faster than we do precludes us from coordinating to solve large problems. If anything, it seems to facilitate it. (edited)
The US Army did several studies regarding the Monkey Circle. Their conclusion was that everyone was capable of empathizing with 4 other individuals as individuals, many more could see more people that way, but 4 was the universal lowest common denominator. Which is why the reorganized infantry units into fire teams the way they did. 4 members of a fire team, 4 fire teams to a squad, 4 squads to a company and so on. But their studies were shit and using prejudices as far as their assertions went. Still 4 ended up being a safe bet. I've seen 30 people including some hard core tankies be able to come to consensus on a topic like how a group does justice procedures. So I can say with relative certainty that the Monkey Circle theory is vastly under estimated as far as how big a group can see individuals as individuals. There are towns across the country where hundreds of people know and at least respect as individuals one another.
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MisterStompy 4/6/2023 5:49 PM
BREAKING: Supreme Court lets transgender girl remain on middle-school track team. Justices Alito, Thomas dissent. It's the first time the court has acted on a wave of new state restrictions on athletic participation.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/6/2023 5:51 PM
...HOLY SHIT WHAT?!
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2-7 holy s---
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/6/2023 5:52 PM
IN THIS SUPREME COURT?
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IN THIS SUPREME COURT?
MisterStompy 4/6/2023 5:52 PM
AT THIS TIME OF DAY AT THIS TIME OF YEAR LOCALIZED ENTIRELY WITHIN YOUR KITCHEN?!
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2-7 holy s---
This is 2 TO 7 IN FAVOR
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MisterStompy 4/6/2023 5:53 PM
It turns out discrimination against trans people is unconstitutional. Like everyone has inalienable God given rights or something who would have thought.
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OK DID SOMEONE GOT BLACKMAIL AGAINST KAVAUGH AND THAT BARRETT?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/6/2023 6:20 PM
HOLY SHIT THAT GRINDR THREAT WORKED WHAT THE FUCK
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GRAB EM BY THE PORN, ITS A WEAK SPOT!
6:25 PM
wait hold on
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could we used this in TN and Texas for their posse shit?
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because Texas is trying to ban being trans
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and with this ruling, you legally can't do that
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won't stop them trying
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but it be hilarious to fuck up their systems in trying too
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could we used this in TN and Texas for their posse shit?
MisterStompy 4/6/2023 6:38 PM
We should do it right when another storm knocks out their power grid. Texas legislature wakes up to the entirety of Texas being pissed off and on top of that now they have to treat trans people like human beings lmao
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/6/2023 6:38 PM
lawyer friend says it’s not as good as it seems sadly
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We should do it right when another storm knocks out their power grid. Texas legislature wakes up to the entirety of Texas being pissed off and on top of that now they have to treat trans people like human beings lmao
so Jan then
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lawyer friend says it’s not as good as it seems sadly
oh no, but its still law of the land
6:40 PM
and with the SCOTUS unintentionally giving it a boost, state laws can be challenged til they try to fuck with it
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lawyer friend says it’s not as good as it seems sadly
MisterStompy 4/6/2023 6:41 PM
But if it does get taken to the Supreme Court directly, SCOTUS will probably rule against it from what I gather
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IN THIS SUPREME COURT?
The SCOTUS is textualist, not necessarily conservative
7:56 PM
Or at least if they are conservative in their personal views, they generally do a decent job at keeping it out of their rulings
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Considering the roe overturning ignores Roe was argued on the basis of the 14th amendment
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Considering the roe overturning ignores Roe was argued on the basis of the 14th amendment
DevilTheAutopoet 4/6/2023 11:28 PM
Actually if you read their decision, they didn't ignore it. They just disagreed with the argument. Which... honestly even as a very pro-choice person I have to admit that the 14th Amendment based argument in the original Roe decision was at best pretty shaky and at worst a total asspull. It actually would've been a much stronger case imo had they argued from the 9th Amendment rather than the 14th.
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This should have been ratified decades ago but they just had to keep using it as wedge issue.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/6/2023 11:37 PM
the democrats are the party of stopping the country from moving right but not actually moving us left
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(and in many cases, moving us right but just slower)
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The SCOTUS is textualist, not necessarily conservative
DevilTheAutopoet 4/6/2023 11:40 PM
Also this is true but there's also very different types and degrees of textualism as well, and the Justices currently sitting on SCOTUS are kinda the perfect example of that. For example, Barrett seems to be a Textualist more in the style of Antonin Scalia. Whereas Clarence Thomas is more of a Strict Constructionist. So like let's say they had to rule on a case where someone attempted to trade an unloaded gun for cocaine, and the law said that there should be an additional penalty for "the use of a firearm in the commencement of a crime related to drug trafficking". Thomas would probably say that that punishment should apply because in the strictest sense the person did "use a firearm". Whereas Barrett would probably rule that it shouldn't apply because no reasonable person means that when they talk about "using a firearm in the commencement of a crime". Still textualist, but willing to engage in good faith interpretation of the text rather than strict semantics.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
the democrats are the party of stopping the country from moving right but not actually moving us left
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DevilTheAutopoet 4/7/2023 8:55 AM
"Remember kids, if you see a girl you like, just grab her by the pussy and shove your tongue down her throat. Asking for consent is woke."
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/7/2023 9:53 AM
They had the biggest target, a target almost everyone had hit perfevtly and they still missed
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/7/2023 11:06 AM
he Republican Party of Florida launched the "Blue County Strategy Committee," which will be laser focused on "picking off" Democrat-held seats at every level of government.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/7/2023 11:10 AM
You see, this is why I always try to nuke Florida in hoi4
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You see, this is why I always try to nuke Florida in hoi4
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 11:40 AM
I hate this attitude honestly. These are Americans, our People, and y'all laugh and joke while they're being slowly subjected to absolute despotism under a Tyrant.
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"Remember kids, if you see a girl you like, just grab her by the pussy and shove your tongue down her throat. Asking for consent is woke."
This shit is why if I find out if someone touching kin inappropriately, my first response is to break their fucking hands
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I WILL make examples out of you
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They have to know that makes them look like the groomers right? They've gotta know.
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I hate this attitude honestly. These are Americans, our People, and y'all laugh and joke while they're being slowly subjected to absolute despotism under a Tyrant.
Yeah, people always say “just move away from there” as if we can just give up, It’s my home I won’t have fascists taking it over without resistance.
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I wish everyone in Florida luck, I really do. But the vast majority of non-fash Floridians allowed this to happen by siding with appeasement Dems for decades. And y'all are 8 to 10 years from having an organized resistance.
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Assuming you start today and dedicate yourself to the process 100%.
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I wish everyone in Florida luck, I really do. But the vast majority of non-fash Floridians allowed this to happen by siding with appeasement Dems for decades. And y'all are 8 to 10 years from having an organized resistance.
I think your also seriously underestimating how much Cubans fuck over the dems here plus Florida dem party is BAD at messaging. Seriously as a Mexican American, the amount of hate Cubans get by other latino/a/x has to be seen to be believed. They hate them for being fash bastards
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(As a rule, not all Cubans obviously but Florida Cubans get some shit)
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DeSatan won, in part, on the Cuban Americans getting scared with socialism because they refuse to acknowledge their own fuckery that lead Castro seizing power And for context:, I fucking hate Castro
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I think your also seriously underestimating how much Cubans fuck over the dems here plus Florida dem party is BAD at messaging. Seriously as a Mexican American, the amount of hate Cubans get by other latino/a/x has to be seen to be believed. They hate them for being fash bastards
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 2:58 PM
Honestly Florida Democrats don't even try to win over Cubanos. Conservatives have Spanish speakers spewing their talking points constantly, while Florida Democrats pretend Spanish speakers don't exist.
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I wish everyone in Florida luck, I really do. But the vast majority of non-fash Floridians allowed this to happen by siding with appeasement Dems for decades. And y'all are 8 to 10 years from having an organized resistance.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 3:00 PM
You're making it sound like they deserve to live under Tyranny because "they had it coming" or "they let it happen". In my opinion this is flat out shameful. They are our Countrymen, they are Americans. I'm not bailing on half of my own People because they had no alternative to 40 years of constant propaganda aided and abetted by Democrat's incompetence.
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This is honestly my biggest problem with Progressives as a whole. Y'all often no sense of National Identity or solidarity with other Americans you disagree with, all too willing to paint them as the enemy that deserves their fate, despite 49.2% of voters going for Gillum in 2018.
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Floridians are Americans, that means we have a duty to do the hard work of winning them over. I will not abandon our Fellow Countrymen to fucking Conservative Fiefdoms of Tyranny just because it's 'too hard' to win over voters.
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Conservatives agree with Progressives on more than you think, especially when it comes to stuff like Climate Change - Democrats simply don't even bother making the case.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/7/2023 3:11 PM
i’ve no sense of national identity because the national identity is often so toxic i just refuse to associate with it
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 3:12 PM
Forge your own that's more accurate to what you believe America ought to be. That's what I've done.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/7/2023 3:13 PM
To quote Thomas Paine again: "My country is the world and my religion is to do good."
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 3:15 PM
You know where I recognize my Nation? You know where and when I see my National Identity? It's when my pasty white cracker ass listens to what this black woman has to say.
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That's my People, right fucking there. Ain't no matter our skin different, our ancestors different, no creed, or language, nor faith gonna separate me from being the same People as her. That's what makes this Country different - we destroy Human Tribalism on a level our species has never before witnessed.
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That's also why I hate Confederates and Trumpanzees so much, they try to tell me that black folks, asian folks, latino folks don't belong here and that they ain't my People.
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You're making it sound like they deserve to live under Tyranny because "they had it coming" or "they let it happen". In my opinion this is flat out shameful. They are our Countrymen, they are Americans. I'm not bailing on half of my own People because they had no alternative to 40 years of constant propaganda aided and abetted by Democrat's incompetence.
That and, talking from experience as a Mexican American is a very Democrat heavy Mexican American family (sans Uncle), Cubans been counted by gop for a long LONG time. You gotta factor in they all came when communist hysteria was high (edited)
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That's my People, right fucking there. Ain't no matter our skin different, our ancestors different, no creed, or language, nor faith gonna separate me from being the same People as her. That's what makes this Country different - we destroy Human Tribalism on a level our species has never before witnessed.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/7/2023 3:30 PM
If by "destroy Human Tribalism on a level our species has never before witnessed", you mean "systematically wipe out entire tribes for the sole purpose of stealing their land and resources" then yes, we do. Those are human values. Not just American values.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 3:31 PM
I wasn't referring to our Sins of wiping out Indians, to drive them from their land and to break every promise and treaty made with them, no.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/7/2023 3:31 PM
In fact, I'd argue America has barely resembled those values throughout its history.
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In fact, I'd argue America has barely resembled those values throughout its history.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 3:32 PM
Correct. And this has been our struggle as it has for generations before us - to make America the Nation we should have been all along.
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Correct. And this has been our struggle as it has for generations before us - to make America the Nation we should have been all along.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/7/2023 3:33 PM
Precisely. I'm loyal to the idea of America "A land where all are equal and free from tyranny", not what it is.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 3:34 PM
But while failures are acknowledged, let's not ignore our successes. This is also a Nation where black, white, latino, asian, jew and gentile all live and work together. A Nation without Nationality. A Tribe of the Tribeless.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/7/2023 3:34 PM
And because of that, we need to be willing to call out those problems when we see them.
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And because of that, we need to be willing to call out those problems when we see them.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 3:35 PM
I couldn't agree more.
3:36 PM
You can't know where you're going until you know where you've been. That's why Conservatives are attacking education, denying history, to stop this Chrysalis of a Country.
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But this is also why we must never let them win, by allowing ourselves to ever think of ourselves as separate and distinct from Conservatives, to feed into this idea that we are not a Union of many Peoples. For by giving up on any of our Fellow Americans, we are giving up on the Idea of America. And that is something I cannot abide. The Union prevailed before, and the Union shall prevail again.
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Black Magic 4/7/2023 4:13 PM
They’re not conservatives anymore
4:13 PM
Just cons
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RebelKitty 4/7/2023 4:40 PM
And ironically hold the opinions of King James over their own Constitution which is just all kinds of cosmically hysterical. Most of these sheepdips aren't even literate at all, but will commit heinous violence and dumbfuckery in the name of written words. It physically hurts my brain it's so stupid.
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But this is also why we must never let them win, by allowing ourselves to ever think of ourselves as separate and distinct from Conservatives, to feed into this idea that we are not a Union of many Peoples. For by giving up on any of our Fellow Americans, we are giving up on the Idea of America. And that is something I cannot abide. The Union prevailed before, and the Union shall prevail again.
My only counterpoint to this, is fash shouldn't be tolerated. Mfers should be made examples out of. That their way of "life"- is wrong and selfish. A path of self destruction that the adults in the room have to literally drag them to progress
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My only counterpoint to this, is fash shouldn't be tolerated. Mfers should be made examples out of. That their way of "life"- is wrong and selfish. A path of self destruction that the adults in the room have to literally drag them to progress
AvoidOblivion 4/7/2023 5:30 PM
I will not tolerate the people whose entire identity and belief system is built around a desire to brutally murder me and my entire family.
5:31 PM
I know little about them, but I imagine my ancestors who were killed by the Nazis would not want me to tolerate the Nazis.
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Exactly. Violence is a last resort,, but a resort none the less
5:37 PM
If I can successfully convince the other to see my way, awesome. But do not mistake my desire for peace for weakness
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 5:47 PM
Oh y'all misunderstand, the Soul of John Brown marches in me as well. We punch the Nazis, no question about it. The point is to reject that idea of abandonment: to let the Confederates leave the Union. (edited)
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Shit like this bothers me.
5:51 PM
I'm not going to give up on 22 million Americans, because 4.6 million voted for a pathetic, wannabe Tyrant.
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To be fair, that 4.6 million are trying to genocide said 22 million
5:52 PM
Or at least really REALLY fuck em over personally
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 5:52 PM
Doesn't mean the remainder aren't worth saving. To leave them in the hands of Tyranny and Oppression and yes Genocide too -- it's unconscionable.
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Oh I agree
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But part of that is having to admittedly force that 22 mil to get off their asses and do shit
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And I am not above taking cues from John Browners
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 5:53 PM
For sure, but that's the Holy Work we are called to perform.
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I will be the first to don the Union Blue to put down Confederates, but the last to accept such a notion as Destroying the Union itself.
5:56 PM
Also I have no idea why y'all fixate on "Fascist" when "Tyrant" is another accurate word, and an even more charged description that is steeped in American History.
5:57 PM
But as much as I love 90% of what y'all stand for, none of y'all could sell water to a wildfire.
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Fascist and Tyrant are one in the same
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 5:57 PM
then use Tyrant!
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Literally a Fascist is trying to be a Tyrant of old
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No
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Fascist also has a more harsher meaning in American pop culture
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 5:57 PM
You want to get all Americans on board with rejecting fascism, call them the name that was used in our Declaration.
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We went to war with fascist
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And is in more recent memories
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 5:59 PM
We went to war with Nazis. Were they fascist, sure. But they didn't storm the beaches of normandy to defeat fascism, they did it to defeat the Nazis.
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Tyranny more accurately reflects the dangers on our own shores, of subjecting the American People to absolute despotism.
6:00 PM
Not opposed to calling them Nazis either mind you. But calling them Tyrants? You will stir up folks you hadn't reached yet.
6:03 PM
You think Conservatives are pissed when you call them Nazis, but truly I say to you, you will enrage them to label them Tyrants.
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TheAnonymousDew 4/7/2023 6:03 PM
I call them what they are, Tyrants and dictators
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 6:05 PM
The words we use matter, use the right words and you could pull heartstrings you couldn't imagine.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
In fact, I'd argue America has barely resembled those values throughout its history.
TheAnonymousDew 4/7/2023 6:05 PM
That is true, but there have always been people fighting to make sure America does live up to it's promises. The suffragettes and the Civil Rights marchers and leaders
6:05 PM
As well as the abolitionists
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 6:05 PM
Their Souls still marching on!
6:06 PM
It's our job to hold the line, and make sure their sacrifices were not in vain.
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TheAnonymousDew 4/7/2023 6:06 PM
I'll always love the ideals of what America is supposed to represent
6:07 PM
Without it's ideals, what is a nation but arbitrary lines?
6:08 PM
Too many people have been brainwashed by the Authortiarian Right and their lackies already. In their guise of "protecting liberty", they are destroying it entirely
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We build spaces for people who want to leave dangerous areas and become sustainable. Those fools who's identities depend on a geographic region for their sense of self get what they get. You don't stay while jackboots are knocking down doors near you. You run, you arm, you regroup, and you kill those fascist fucks.
6:22 PM
There is no place in this fight for misplaced valor. A postage stamp plot of land isn't worth dying over.
6:23 PM
And it certainly isn't worth dying over when it's going to be inhospitable swampland in 20 years because the other fascists in this nation refuse to do anything about climate change.
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And it certainly isn't worth dying over when it's going to be inhospitable swampland in 20 years because the other fascists in this nation refuse to do anything about climate change.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 6:28 PM
It ain't about the land. It's about the People.
6:29 PM
If I gotta don the Union Blue, by all that is good there will be another March to the Sea.
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The people are gonna die or move anyway inside 20 years If they are too stupid to realize that that's not on me.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 6:30 PM
It is on you. It's on all of us. Everything that follows in Human History is dependent on what we do in our days here.
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If my Countrymen lack education, that is on me.
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If my Countrymen lack clean drinking water, that is on me.
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If my Countrymen cheer on Traitors and blindly follow Tyrants, that is on me.
6:31 PM
We are One People, Spinner.
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It is on you. It's on all of us. Everything that follows in Human History is dependent on what we do in our days here.
Bullshit. People write their own history and future. I'm not responsible for the masses who have their heads in the sand. I can do what I can do. And that's it. If others do what I do, then we accomplish more.
6:31 PM
Don't go making your white knight syndrome my problem.
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Don't go making your white knight syndrome my problem.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 6:32 PM
Letting America fall to Tyranny because you decided whole chunks of it wasn't your responsibility is absolutely your problem, and will become the problem of every Nation on this Planet.
6:33 PM
You can do what you can do. Don't you dare tell me, throwing up your hands and saying nothing is all you can do.
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This ain't about white knighting jack shit. It's about who and what we're fighting for, and fighting to prevent.
6:34 PM
Point is, Progressives love to say not my job not my prob - when it's both. We have a Civic Duty to each other.
6:35 PM
That Civic Duty includes punching Nazis and defying Tyrants, but never includes washing your hands of your own People and leaving them to it.
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6:37 PM
Like are you really going full "Solidarity for all Workers, except Floridians they made their bed"? Do you not realize how hollow and self-serving it makes your ideology sound?
6:39 PM
I thought the whole point of Solidarity was recognizing there were things more important than yourself, because we are all the same. Spinner all you're doing is putting a gigantic asterisk on that belief, because you're taking on one of the worst parts of conservatism, "personal responsibility" or more accurately put, "why this is all your own fault so fix your own problems"
6:40 PM
Imo that's just hypocrisy. If you're going to be a Progressive, then be a Progressive.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/7/2023 7:50 PM
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The Texas judge’s ruling was quickly contradicted by another federal judge in Washington State who ordered the F.D.A. to keep mifepristone available.
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i swear on my fucking god
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Ironically that ruling got thrown out but ANOTHER Judge
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
Letting America fall to Tyranny because you decided whole chunks of it wasn't your responsibility is absolutely your problem, and will become the problem of every Nation on this Planet.
Fuck you you strawmaning self-righteous piece of shit Who fucking said let the county fall to fascism? I sure fucking didn't. Check your fucking attitude.
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Fuck you you strawmaning self-righteous piece of shit Who fucking said let the county fall to fascism? I sure fucking didn't. Check your fucking attitude.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 8:23 PM
You're the one literally saying Florida deserves what they get.
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You're the one literally saying Florida deserves what they get.
Florida ain't the only fucking place in this country... Not that Floridians know that obviously.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 8:24 PM
"I'm not responsible for the masses who have their heads in the sand."
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We have a Civic Duty to our Countrymen.
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You swoop in here and start talking mad shit. None of it backed with a single solid fucking plan. Get on with yourself.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
We have a Civic Duty to our Countrymen.
We have a civic duty to our neighbors. Fuck this nation, they took my body and my soul already.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 8:26 PM
Who is your neighbor?
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
Who is your neighbor?
Bite me instigator.
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Florida ain't the only fucking place in this country... Not that Floridians know that obviously.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/7/2023 8:27 PM
You do realize some of those Floridians are leftists like us, right? And are probably dirt poor because of DeSatan's bs.
8:27 PM
Even if they wanted to leave, they likely can't.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 8:28 PM
Your neighbor is anyone in your vicinity that you can help. Withholding your hand because you think some Americans deserve Tyranny makes you little better than the Tyrants themselves.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
You do realize some of those Floridians are leftists like us, right? And are probably dirt poor because of DeSatan's bs.
I do, but I'm hardly able to fucking help all of them now am I? It is up to each of us to do what we can. Not make like a white fucking knight and take on the responsibility for everyone.
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I do, but I'm hardly able to fucking help all of them now am I? It is up to each of us to do what we can. Not make like a white fucking knight and take on the responsibility for everyone.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 8:29 PM
Just 1/330,000,000th of the responsibility for everyone.
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Your neighbor is anyone in your vicinity that you can help. Withholding your hand because you think some Americans deserve Tyranny makes you little better than the Tyrants themselves.
You haven't been here long enough to talk about what I do for my community.
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You haven't been here long enough to talk about what I do for my community.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 8:29 PM
I'm not. I'm simply arguing against your own words, which are of despondency and contempt towards our own People. (edited)
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I'm not. I'm simply arguing against your own words, which are of despondency and contempt towards our own People. (edited)
My contempt is for your instigator ass, if someone in Florida has a plan and they want my help with it they can ask But you motherfucker don't get to brow beat me with some vague notion of responsibility.
8:31 PM
Fucking step up for Florida. Don't expect people who have their own villains to deal with to do your work for you.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 8:32 PM
My contempt is for frauds who claim one thing and live another. Don't claim to be a Progressive, if you aren't willing to be a Progressive.
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I would question why you're so defensive, if not because you fear my words are true.
8:33 PM
It's Liberty and Justice for all, not Liberty and Justice for those who pull themselves up by their political bootstraps.
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You don't know me, you don't have a fucking shred of knowledge of what I have or haven't done. You are an instigator who has done nothing since you got here but sow division.
8:34 PM
And with that you are blocked.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 8:34 PM
I think that's a bit egocentric of you, when I've only attacked your notion we should bail on other Americans instead of having Solidarity with our own People.
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Straw man arguments are bullshit and you know it. You cherry picked and strawmanned the whole time you've been here. Get the fuck out you wannabe op.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 8:36 PM
"Those fools who's identities depend on a geographic region for their sense of self get what they get."
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You condemn them instead of trying to reach out to them. Have you ever considered their identities have depended on a geographic region* for their sense of self because we have failed to present a modern sense of American Identity that includes them? (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/7/2023 8:38 PM
And like I said before, some of those "fools" can't leave because they're poor.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 8:38 PM
I don't think anyone should "get what they get" when it comes to Tyranny and Oppression under Fascism Spinner. (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
And like I said before, some of those "fools" can't leave because they're poor.
I have spent years developing a plan specifically that would allow us to move people from danger. Someone else wants to help me implement that plan fantastic... But it ain't gonna happen on my own.
8:40 PM
And I sure as hell can't save everyone, nor should anyone try to claim it's anyone's responsibility to do so.
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I have spent years developing a plan specifically that would allow us to move people from danger. Someone else wants to help me implement that plan fantastic... But it ain't gonna happen on my own.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/7/2023 8:40 PM
Again, no one is questioning that. I'm just saying not to judge people whose circumstances are unknown to you.
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And I sure as hell can't save everyone, nor should anyone try to claim it's anyone's responsibility to do so.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 8:41 PM
"Those fools who's identities depend on a geographic region for their sense of self get what they get." Yeah it sure as hell doesn't sound like you're trying to save everyone, that's painfully clear.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Again, no one is questioning that. I'm just saying not to judge people whose circumstances are unknown to you.
Not judging, just telling that blowhard that it's not my fucking responsibility to save every motherfucker in danger. He comes up with a plan, I'll listen. Till then I don't want to hear his bullshit.
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Dude still cherry picking I see
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 8:42 PM
You're taking this really personally, and I'm honestly not sure why. I'm not condemning you, simply exhorting you to remember these are our own People, who don't deserve Tyranny and Fascism.
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We have to remember we're fighting for them.
8:43 PM
King Theoden of Rohan didn't say Gondor deserved to die and abandon them in their hour of need. Why do you say the same of your Fellow Americans?
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Dude still cherry picking I see
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 8:44 PM
Words matter, use them with care if you do not wish to be quoted.
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I just find it strange you can't accept when you're a bit out of line and re-evaluate, instead of doubling down and being aggressive and insulting towards me when all I've done is point out that nobody deserves what's coming for us if we fail.
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"Nobody deserves Fascism" is a hill I'm willing to die on, and you can insult me all you like, it won't change my belief here.
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Look I'm not saying you're a bad guy, but "eh those guys deserve it" is never going to be a take that I leave unanswered.
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It's not just "geographic identity"
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My home is my home, I have lived it in my entire life. I'll likely have to leave it some day, but it is not the same to be forced out
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and my home is not necessarily "New Jersey," but my house, and my town
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If you send me somewhere else in the state, or somewhere else in the county, it's not the same. It's not my home. I can make it my home, but I'm not gonna like it if I'm forced to
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Most people are the same way
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It's not like they're some kind of Floridian chauvinists, it's just that they have lived in these areas their whole lives and don't want to be forced out by shitty politicians and hate groups
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 8:57 PM
I would go so far as to say the Democratic Party in Florida is so utterly incompetent and lethargic they might as well be Controlled Opposition. It's not exactly their fault for re-electing DeSantis, when the best Florida Democrats could offer is Charlie fucking Crist, a grossly unpopular former Republican, to oppose him -
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Hell we lost a Senate seat because Bill fucking Nelson couldn't be bothered to actually run a serious campaign and now we have Skeletor in the United States Senate.
8:59 PM
Condemning entirely a state that voted 49.2% for a Progressive in 2018 seems rather fucked up to me.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/7/2023 9:15 PM
Justin Jones called out the double-standard in the Tennessee House by citing several lawmakers with controversies
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Went right for the fucking throat.
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Good for him.
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I say someone aught to put that burn out, but witches are supposed to burn
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/7/2023 9:26 PM
Let's be fair, if Conservatives didn't have double standards, they wouldn't have any standards at all.
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If you send me somewhere else in the state, or somewhere else in the county, it's not the same. It's not my home. I can make it my home, but I'm not gonna like it if I'm forced to
Over 1% of the population currently has no home. When those people in those enemy territories are driven from their homes and killed, they won't need their home anymore. And even if you got all 93 online people here with guns to go to any one of those places, that still wouldn't be enough to stop it. You don't build a resistance by demanding someone 1800 miles away throw away their life on a suicide mission. You build the network to get people out of those danger areas. And you don't make promises to people you can't keep. What I can do is build the places people who are smart enough to know when to get the fuck out can go. I can design the network to get them there. I can't do either by myself. This notion that I owe some vague everything to everyone is what I'm calling bullshit on. Community members owe something to their community. I owe something to my co-workers and other impoverished people here where I am to help them overcome the crushing weight of capitalism. I don't owe people in Florida shit. I gave more than enough to this "nation" already and I'll be damned if I'm going to let some loudmouth fucker who just joined claim I owe him or anyone else anything. Particularly since he hasn't been here long enough to know what I do or even what I'm about. Anti-fascism isn't some game played like Risk... where you manipulate pawns to do your dirty work for you. It's local groups working within their communities to ensure fascism doesn't crush the people of THEIR community. No anti-fascist organization in history operated any other way, because it's barely possibly to organize that way under the boot of fascism. And I really don't think many people here get it. We are already living in a fascist nation. The only question is... Is the Christo-fascist white supremacist faction going to take over from the corpo-fascist faction in charge currently. We're fucked no matter who is in charge, the only difference is the speed at which death comes. (edited)
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How do you define "fascism?"
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No one is saying that you or anyone else is a "pawn" who must do whatever someone on the other side of the country asks of you. The main point the guy was making is that we can't completely abandon people in other states and say they deserve to be under tyranny and such
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No one is saying that you or anyone else is a "pawn" who must do whatever someone on the other side of the country asks of you. The main point the guy was making is that we can't completely abandon people in other states and say they deserve to be under tyranny and such
No... his main point was that I can't abandon people in other states. His wording was VERY clearly personally directed at me, and my response was to that. We? Who's we? Anti-fascist participants in Florida or nearby states? Sure... absolutely... they must work together to protect people within their sphere of influence if they want to accomplish doing so. But I'm not a part of those circles. I have my own people to worry about, my own projects I see as necessary to protect people to devote my time to. I can't run off to Florida to protect some Leather Bar hosting a drag show... even if I wanted to. There are a thousand reasons I cannot. And basically every one of them means that fucker doesn't know a goddamned thing about me. As for fascism... any way you cut it the existing capitalist oligarchy is fascist... they actively do things which kill people via their corporate decisions... their goal is to consolidate all power within the hands of a very small minority of people... and they will and do kill to do it. Christo-fascists want to achieve the same goal, different people at the top, but same goal. Their rhetoric is different in target, but not terribly different in method. Corpo-fascists use the same techniques to kill people as Christo-fascists use to get people to kill for them. It's all marketing. Christo-fascists know they don't have the same wealth backing them as corpofascists... so they motivate the "good" (read white) poor folks to attack other disenfranchised folks. Corpofascists use the same techniques to get us to buy products that will kill us, or manufacture consent to wage war elsewhere for their gain.
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No... his main point was that I can't abandon people in other states. His wording was VERY clearly personally directed at me, and my response was to that. We? Who's we? Anti-fascist participants in Florida or nearby states? Sure... absolutely... they must work together to protect people within their sphere of influence if they want to accomplish doing so. But I'm not a part of those circles. I have my own people to worry about, my own projects I see as necessary to protect people to devote my time to. I can't run off to Florida to protect some Leather Bar hosting a drag show... even if I wanted to. There are a thousand reasons I cannot. And basically every one of them means that fucker doesn't know a goddamned thing about me. As for fascism... any way you cut it the existing capitalist oligarchy is fascist... they actively do things which kill people via their corporate decisions... their goal is to consolidate all power within the hands of a very small minority of people... and they will and do kill to do it. Christo-fascists want to achieve the same goal, different people at the top, but same goal. Their rhetoric is different in target, but not terribly different in method. Corpo-fascists use the same techniques to kill people as Christo-fascists use to get people to kill for them. It's all marketing. Christo-fascists know they don't have the same wealth backing them as corpofascists... so they motivate the "good" (read white) poor folks to attack other disenfranchised folks. Corpofascists use the same techniques to get us to buy products that will kill us, or manufacture consent to wage war elsewhere for their gain.
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Example: Manufacturing consent to invade Iraq was done explicitly to prevent Gazprom and Lukoil from making good on the contracts they signed with Saddam Hussain to extract Iraqi oil. We fucked Iraq up and made Iraq give that oil at pennies on the dollar to Exxon/BP.
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We killed at least a million civilians doing that. How is that not fascist?
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We = anyone here, in AIF
AIF is not nor will it ever be a single entity. If it does, we're all about to go to prison or be killed. Jesus Christ this isn't a goddamned game. Death is on the table... and the fucking organization that inspired the name is a great example of that.
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I never said it was
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It is a movement, not a single organization
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They not only failed to accomplish anything, but many of them were killed, all of them spent time in prison. Look to the French Resistance, or the Yugoslav or Italian Partisans for inspiration. "We" as a concept needs to be focused locally not broadly. (edited)
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Are we responsible for keeping people safe from murder? Or death? Are we responsible for keeping people safe from oppression? Or just oppression by the people we claim are the most immediate oppressors? Because to ignore one for the other is kinda narrow minded. Where I am more people die of lack of proper shelter each year than the number of trans folk shot each year. More people have died from Johnson and Johnson's baby powder than in ALL gun violence in the past probably 20 years suicides not included. What oppression is worthy of our attention? What oppression is not? If we don't fight all oppression then we just leave a vacuum someone else can fill. But I can't fight all of that oppression myself, nor can even the combined might of everyone on this discord. The people themselves have to be shown what oppressions are and they have to be inspired to fight it with or without us. AIF cannot be the savior, it can be an inspiration.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/8/2023 1:48 AM
Is saying they "get what they get" inspiring Floridians to fight against Oppression? I'm pointing out your goals and your rhetoric are completely at odds with each other.
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RebelKitty 4/8/2023 1:53 AM
I do kind of agree in order to most efficiently accomplish this it'd take focus at the local levels. That's not to say for all eternity screw anyone else, but simply that you have to start with the things you can control in your immediate community first before moving to the big. The proverbial "Floridians" would presumably, by their own volition, eventually be much easier to engage with if not already more outright sympathetic. (edited)
1:59 AM
In the hierarchy of needs a lot of us are missing fundamental safety in community. There's little to no outreach for these kinds of groups in rural areas in particular. There needs to at least be some baseline level of needs met for individuals before they can best serve a larger community outside their own. I do think sincere efforts are being made towards this in AIF, however.
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I do kind of agree in order to most efficiently accomplish this it'd take focus at the local levels. That's not to say for all eternity screw anyone else, but simply that you have to start with the things you can control in your immediate community first before moving to the big. The proverbial "Floridians" would presumably, by their own volition, eventually be much easier to engage with if not already more outright sympathetic. (edited)
You cannot help people who are intent on paths of self destruction. Once Germany got to the point of putting Jews in Ghettos, they were fucked. On the whole, it's only slightly wrong to say that all of those died. Who survived? Those who left beforehand... saw the writing on the wall and GTFO
2:23 AM
Many of those were dirt fucking poor and walked their asses out. Begged for crew positions on ships in the boiler rooms shoveling coal.
2:26 AM
Anti-fascism is not in this country at a point where it can prevent a holocaust. We're a decade or more, and not making much progress, from having the network needed to do so. I want people to be safe. And logistically speaking right now, that's to get people out of harms way. It's too bad that they lose their home (if they have one) in the process... they will be alive to fight back somehow later.
2:27 AM
And if they don't GTFO when all signs point to that being the only way they will survive. Well nothing we do is going to protect them as a whole. The most we'll be able to do is save a few here and there. Or none at all if we don't start creating the network needed to do so and the places needed to keep them safe.
2:28 AM
But you cannot create those safe zones within those areas. You need a network to get them from those areas to a safe place.
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So, where is the counter proposal, the plan to create a resistance that can oppose the might of the 97,000 police, the Florida National Guard ~10,000, the Florida Militias ~1000, and the vast number of armed trumpettes that want nothing more than to kill whomever they are pointed at this week in open conflict in a territory that is several hundred miles at best from even kinda allied territory? Does mister we should save all Floridians have a plan to wage that war? How about the logistics army to do so? Or even the bullets? Just the number we can count in Florida is about 100k of armed and trained people ready to kill us at the drop of a hat. How are we AIF supposed to wage that war? Or are we talking about some other totally nebulous method of helping these people that is just vaporware at this point? I've got a plan, I'm working on that plan, I've stated my plan openly. I've dedicated my entire life to that plan starting several years ago. Let's hear an alternative from mister holier than thou. (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/8/2023 2:54 AM
So by your own logic, the German Jews who perished in the Holocaust deserved what they got because they didn't see the warning signs and leave?
2:57 AM
You self-righteous fucking hypocrite. Nobody was specifically saying it was just you that had to help these people. Alexander said it was our duty as an antifascist org to aid others against fascism, specifically in the USA, however we can.
2:59 AM
You may not have a plan but someone in Florida might and if they do, then this org should do it's part to either help this plan along or at the very least connect them to people who can.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
You self-righteous fucking hypocrite. Nobody was specifically saying it was just you that had to help these people. Alexander said it was our duty as an antifascist org to aid others against fascism, specifically in the USA, however we can.
Actually go back and read it... he did say me specifically. And accused me of a lot of things specifically on that note alone.
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Actually go back and read it... he did say me specifically. And accused me of a lot of things specifically on that note alone.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/8/2023 3:05 AM
He was saying it was our duty as an antifascist org. You are part of this antifascist org. Therefore, it is as much your duty as it is mine, Alexander's, and everyone else involved.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
He was saying it was our duty as an antifascist org. You are part of this antifascist org. Therefore, it is as much your duty as it is mine, Alexander's, and everyone else involved.
He was stating me personally... and never ever retracted that. Never did he suggest he was speaking generally of AIF... never did he suggest a general duty to everyone. It was directed specifically at me, and regarding people in Florida. Don't repaint the painting he created because you took it differently.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/8/2023 3:12 AM
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There is no logical means to protect the ~20 million people in Florida from the actions of their politicians. They have the means to do it themselves. The best we can do as an org is to show them they need to... but history has proven time and time again that no matter what warnings you give, the vast majority of people will ignore them. So I believe it's most effective to plan for the most likely scenario... in this case that Florida goes full on genocidal fascist including trans folk, homosexuals, bisexuals, democrats, liberals in general, and people of color. And there ain't nothing we can do as an org to stop that... stopping it is only something people IN Florida can do... if it's even possible for them to do it at this point. We can build safe havens for them to run to. We can build a network of transportation to make it easier for them to get there. We can even build a network for organizing future internal resistance. But don't delude yourself into thinking we can STOP fascism there... it's there already. It's just not at 100% operational effectiveness yet.
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You mean to cherry pick the parts where he's already decided I don't do shit? Ok.
3:14 AM
Incidentally without knowing a fucking thing about me.
3:15 AM
Yeah, I don't give a fuck about that, those were all just personal attacks or worthless self aggrandizement. (edited)
3:19 AM
"That's on me..." right because he's responsible for natural gas fraking or the politicians who fucked up water supplies. No that's bullshit grandstanding... he has no power to change those things, to prevent those things, nor fix those things.
3:19 AM
Nor does AIF have the power to make those changes.
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There is no logical means to protect the ~20 million people in Florida from the actions of their politicians. They have the means to do it themselves. The best we can do as an org is to show them they need to... but history has proven time and time again that no matter what warnings you give, the vast majority of people will ignore them. So I believe it's most effective to plan for the most likely scenario... in this case that Florida goes full on genocidal fascist including trans folk, homosexuals, bisexuals, democrats, liberals in general, and people of color. And there ain't nothing we can do as an org to stop that... stopping it is only something people IN Florida can do... if it's even possible for them to do it at this point. We can build safe havens for them to run to. We can build a network of transportation to make it easier for them to get there. We can even build a network for organizing future internal resistance. But don't delude yourself into thinking we can STOP fascism there... it's there already. It's just not at 100% operational effectiveness yet.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/8/2023 3:19 AM
If it's something only people in Florida can do, then it our job to help them in any way we can. That is what we do as an antifascist org. No one is saying not to do this except you Mr "Those fools who's identities depend on a geographic region for their sense of self get what they get." .
3:20 AM
I honestly think you're grossly misreading what Alexander was criticizing you for.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
I honestly think you're grossly misreading what Alexander was criticizing you for.
I believe you. I don't believe that you are correct.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
If it's something only people in Florida can do, then it our job to help them in any way we can. That is what we do as an antifascist org. No one is saying not to do this except you Mr "Those fools who's identities depend on a geographic region for their sense of self get what they get." .
You are missing the part where I explicitly said if they come up with a plan we help them. But go on.
4:13 AM
WI about to get a kick in the dick
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I believe you. I don't believe that you are correct.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/8/2023 7:40 AM
Uni is right here. You're letting your ego get away from you friend. This work is too important for ego.
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Progress could be made here if responses were less inflammatory, less personal and more about the actual difference in the philosophy of organizing
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7:46 AM
or maybe given what's been said already, we're past that point. Idfk. This has been getting pretty fucking stupid
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/8/2023 7:47 AM
Agreed. Said my piece, am willing to stop arguing.
7:50 AM
Just feels like Spinner is focusing on what we can do after a huge disaster, meanwhile I think we ought to focus on preventing it from happening in the first place. The former treats America's fall to Tyranny as a foregone conclusion, and that is a cynicism I don't think is helpful. Why are each of us here, if not in hope? (edited)
7:52 AM
I think we ought to be organizing active resistance to policies that seek to reduce us under absolute despotism, sabotaging and destroying anti-homeless public works for instance.
7:54 AM
Here in NYC, we have benches that are actively built to keep homeless people from sleeping on them. What if we organized to discreetly saw that hateful shit off?
7:56 AM
Jumping straight to forming an Underground Railroad, while an admirable goal, feels like shit we should be doing if or when in 10 years after everything else we've done to prevent this calamity has failed.
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Nah. It is good to have these things prepared far ahead of time (edited)
8:06 AM
Plus I'm pretty sure Spinner helps get homeless people into houses or shelter in general, which is more important than destroying anti-homeless infrastructure
8:07 AM
of course destroying anti-homeless infrastructure is still a good thing and necessary for us to do
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/8/2023 8:07 AM
Fair enough, and good point that.
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Everything that each person does here contributes to our common goal in some way, even small things like advertising. The only thing I take issue with is the "[group] deserves it" type of rhetoric. Otherwise there is nothing wrong with having a different philosophy based around dedicating yourself 99% or 100% to local organizing and things like helping local homeless people get shelter and making preparations for future internal refugees
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/8/2023 8:16 AM
Completely with you here.
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Progress could be made here if responses were less inflammatory, less personal and more about the actual difference in the philosophy of organizing
AvoidOblivion 4/8/2023 8:18 AM
I spent an unhealthy amount of time thinking about a response to write here. After I realized it was far too lengthy, I spent some more time shortening the response into something simple: Healthy communication skills really need to be worked on. These arguments contained far too many personal attacks, from all sides.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/8/2023 8:20 AM
@Spinner, if I was doling out personal attacks, I'm sorry. That wasn't my intent. My intent is doing my part in Restoring the Republic. (edited)
8:20 AM
Nothing more, nothing less.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/8/2023 8:50 AM
My personal belief is that with the window to address Climate Change rapidly shrinking, simply planning and waiting to save whom we can after the Fall is not sufficient. I would prefer to dedicate my energies towards prevention, as I feel strongly that John Brown would have rathered fought to prevent slavery than fighting to free the enslaved. Your viewpoint that we are already under Tyranny I don't believe is accurate, as I doubt we'd be even able to talk like this otherwise. I feel like such a viewpoint encourages despondency and passivity, and despondency and passivity are the last things we need right now. There are many things we can do for states like Florida we are not in, we can organize phone banks and canvasses for candidates and issues we support to let us lobby them directly for instance. (edited)
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To talk about moderate republican's desires for less taxes and less government interference in their lives. I don't think they have actually deeply thought about the impact of those desires on the world around them. After all, someone needs to pay for the schools and the roads and the homeless shelter. Also less government interference? What does that mean?
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tbh they're mean they want corpos to own them
1:42 PM
the problem is, what happens if the corpos decide to go against them, as seen with Disney and DeSatan rn
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/8/2023 5:43 PM
Didn’t this fucker lose custody?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/9/2023 12:18 AM
While teachers' unions have opposed the governor's crackdowns on public schools, police and firefighters have largely stood by the governor.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/9/2023 9:54 AM
Just let me nuke the site pleaaaase
9:54 AM
i beg
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BubsyFanboy 4/9/2023 10:30 AM
classic Twitter moment
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classic Twitter moment
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BubsyFanboy 4/9/2023 10:37 AM
https://innpoland.pl/192794,ile-osob-otrzyma-doplaty-z-bezpiecznego-kredytu-2-proc-oto-wyliczenia [Polish article]
The government trumpeted success by announcing a new subsidy program for housing loans. The editors of INNPoland.pl conducted a simulation to check how many people will gain access to 2% Safe Credit. This year, the government wants to allocate so little money to this program that only 729 people will receive subsidies.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 4/9/2023 11:14 AM
Matt Walsh be like: TrAnS pEoPlE aNd DrAg QuEeNs ArE gRoOmInG kIds!!!!1!1!1!1!!!1!!111 source: just trust me bro1!1! ALSO Matt Walsh 🤡: girls are most fertile at 16 ALSO ALSO Matt Walsh: it's normal for 40-year-old men to be attracted to teenage girls Matt Walsh once-a-fucking-gain: 16-year-olds should be forced to carry babies to full term, no matter what
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/9/2023 11:16 AM
Fucking disgusting
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 4/9/2023 11:16 AM
he talks about biology as if he actually knows shit about it, really he just uses biology as his scapegoat to be a bigot when in reality, he doesn't know shit about biology and he wouldn't know biology if it kicked him in the balls
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11:18 AM
if he truly WAS concerned with biology, he would know that the thing he said about 16-year-old girls being "most fertile" is 600% bullshit
11:19 AM
girls are most fertile when they're WOMEN
11:23 AM
and i can assure you that 16-year-olds shouldn't be considered full-on women, and anyone with more than one braincell should know that, if you disagree i'm just gonna say you're a pedophile and im not hearing anyone out on this. i WILL be dying on this hill, this is not, I repeat, NOT up for debate. i'm blocking ANYBODY who tries to convince me otherwise on this. thank you.
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Generally all humans reach physical maturity and full brain development between 21 and 24. However we have many laws which would be extremely oppressive to early twenty somethings if the age of "majority" was raised to match that. So the answer is... it's complicated because of capitalism and legal systems.
11:27 AM
Because the brain isn't fully developed (particularly the centers responsible for empathy are the last to develop) should we make voting age 24? Should the age of consent be 24? Hell I didn't know how to say No till about 34.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/9/2023 11:29 AM
Brain development can be really fucky and it changes from person to person
11:29 AM
A LOT
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Brain development can be really fucky and it changes from person to person
Yes, however the paralimbic system is the last to develop, and it is the center responsible for empathy and consequence.
11:30 AM
Which are critical centers for things like consent and understanding ramifications of large things... like laws.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/9/2023 11:31 AM
I can confirm, we are teenagers are remarkably stupid when it comes to consequence
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 4/9/2023 11:31 AM
I believe I remember Matt Walsh stating something along the lines of "if 16-year-olds are too young to give birth, are they old enough to change their gender? And I know what your answer is to that question."
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/9/2023 11:31 AM
and other stuff like it
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DevilTheAutopoet 4/9/2023 11:32 AM
Also, I feel like talking about biological maturity kinda misses the point. Teenagers are autonomous individuals with rights and they don't deserve to be coerced or baited or groomed by some creepy older fuck into having sex, no matter how fertile they are.
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So the question governments have to face is, what is the happy median? Small autonomous communities have the ability (through direct experience with someone) to determine someone's capacities to be a contributing member of the whole. Thus "rights of passage".
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 4/9/2023 11:32 AM
He genuinely thought that was a good argument, he genuinely thought that was a gotcha moment.
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Also, I feel like talking about biological maturity kinda misses the point. Teenagers are autonomous individuals with rights and they don't deserve to be coerced or baited or groomed by some creepy older fuck into having sex, no matter how fertile they are.
Matt Walsh is a fuckwit, no doubt. And absolutely people should not predate upon younger people or people in positions of lower hierarchy.
11:34 AM
But what is the best way to do that? Currently we have Age of Consent laws to do that... but that doesn't protect people in their late teens or twenties from it.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 4/9/2023 11:35 AM
He does realize that regretting transition is a thing? Right? Right? He does know that transitions aren't permanent, right? He does know that there's more than just medical transition, right? He knows all that, right? He knows that giving birth and stating your gender identity are nowhere near comparable, right??
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And you don't get good results from "acceptable age range" rules... such as "within 4 years of the younger person's age" as was Hawaii's law a while back.
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He does realize that regretting transition is a thing? Right? Right? He does know that transitions aren't permanent, right? He does know that there's more than just medical transition, right? He knows all that, right? He knows that giving birth and stating your gender identity are nowhere near comparable, right??
Some effects are permanent however after a period of time, particularly for Trans-masc folks.
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But what is the best way to do that? Currently we have Age of Consent laws to do that... but that doesn't protect people in their late teens or twenties from it.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/9/2023 11:37 AM
Well a lot of age related power dynamics are a result of capitalism and the legal system itself. But not all are by any stretch. Personally I'm a big fan of the half your age plus seven rule.
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Some effects are permanent however after a period of time, particularly for Trans-masc folks.
𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 4/9/2023 11:37 AM
Correct but my point still stands
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He does realize that regretting transition is a thing? Right? Right? He does know that transitions aren't permanent, right? He does know that there's more than just medical transition, right? He knows all that, right? He knows that giving birth and stating your gender identity are nowhere near comparable, right??
AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/9/2023 11:38 AM
He doesn't <3
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Well a lot of age related power dynamics are a result of capitalism and the legal system itself. But not all are by any stretch. Personally I'm a big fan of the half your age plus seven rule.
Agreed on the first part. But at some point you need to give autonomy to someone to decide who they want to fuck. Rather than demand they stay within their rough age group. If I'd been forced to stay within my age group and not have sex with women 20 years my senior I would never have A: enjoyed sex, or B: learned what I have. So at what age does the government get the fuck out of my sex life? (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/9/2023 11:41 AM
I feel the more permanent processes of transition, while still available, should be consulted first cus y'know, effects might be permanent
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He doesn't <3
𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 4/9/2023 11:42 AM
Exactly!! So him being ignorant to all that, that means that he's just blindly chosing to be against a community he barely knows anything about!! That's what most transphobic people do! I know Matt Walsh and his delulu fans don't have the brain capacity to think this through, but do they not realize that some trans people DON'T transition at all? Other than when they TELL people what they are?
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐
Exactly!! So him being ignorant to all that, that means that he's just blindly chosing to be against a community he barely knows anything about!! That's what most transphobic people do! I know Matt Walsh and his delulu fans don't have the brain capacity to think this through, but do they not realize that some trans people DON'T transition at all? Other than when they TELL people what they are?
AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/9/2023 11:43 AM
Can I get an Amen to that?
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 4/9/2023 11:45 AM
You see, from my observations, I've learned that most transphobes have no idea what they're talking about, they speak from a place of ignorance.
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Agreed on the first part. But at some point you need to give autonomy to someone to decide who they want to fuck. Rather than demand they stay within their rough age group. If I'd been forced to stay within my age group and not have sex with women 20 years my senior I would never have A: enjoyed sex, or B: learned what I have. So at what age does the government get the fuck out of my sex life? (edited)
DevilTheAutopoet 4/9/2023 11:45 AM
I mean, I'm not big on government enforcement in general. That is itself a form of coercion. I like the half age plus seven rule a rough guide. But think that in general we as a collective society are pretty decent at sussing out what's innocent and consensual and what's creepy and predatory. From there we can isolate offending individuals and require them to change their behaviours, provide rehab and therapy if necessary, and if they refuse we can ostracize and outcast them from society so that they can't harm anyone else.
11:46 AM
Or some guy gets pissed off about his daughter getting preyed upon and shoots the fucker. I'm honestly fine with that too.
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DevilTheAutopoet
I mean, I'm not big on government enforcement in general. That is itself a form of coercion. I like the half age plus seven rule a rough guide. But think that in general we as a collective society are pretty decent at sussing out what's innocent and consensual and what's creepy and predatory. From there we can isolate offending individuals and require them to change their behaviours, provide rehab and therapy if necessary, and if they refuse we can ostracize and outcast them from society so that they can't harm anyone else.
I think that's a totally plausible scenario in tight knit communities. But we don't have those anymore. We can build them however if we stopped buying into the notion that we have to be entirely self sufficient.
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DevilTheAutopoet
Or some guy gets pissed off about his daughter getting preyed upon and shoots the fucker. I'm honestly fine with that too.
In tight knit communities that wouldn't really be an issue very often. Also a lot of "fatherly" anger towards sexual partners of their daughters is based on the concept of parents owning their children and more than a little repressed sexual desire towards their children. MANY cases of that also involve the father being predatory towards their daughter.
11:48 AM
And the same actually holds true for mothers and sons.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐
You see, from my observations, I've learned that most transphobes have no idea what they're talking about, they speak from a place of ignorance.
𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 4/9/2023 11:49 AM
Adding on to this, transphobes don't ever form their own views, they get their views from others. What I'm trying to say here is that hatred/bigotry is taught. That's a sad thing, so we need to break the cycle.
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DevilTheAutopoet
Or some guy gets pissed off about his daughter getting preyed upon and shoots the fucker. I'm honestly fine with that too.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/9/2023 11:49 AM
Tbc, I'm not an advocate of punishment and retribution, but in this sort of scenario it's also kinda hard to judge someone for acting on their vengeful urges.
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In tight knit communities that wouldn't really be an issue very often. Also a lot of "fatherly" anger towards sexual partners of their daughters is based on the concept of parents owning their children and more than a little repressed sexual desire towards their children. MANY cases of that also involve the father being predatory towards their daughter.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/9/2023 11:50 AM
I'm aware of that. I was moreso just using it as an example because it's the cliché.
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Black Magic 4/9/2023 12:30 PM
Trans hate is a thing of political connivence; an easy way to build an out group from a minority that usually can’t defend it self. Trans haters dont form their own opinion as stated above; they don’t have their own reasons for hating trans people; they’re part of a clique and following the clique
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Humans as a rule prefer to not exert energy either mentally or emotionally; and so will largely gravitate towards the minimum energy state of following their clique
12:33 PM
There’s a cruel kind of mechanical flow to all of it.
12:34 PM
It’s a crime to say out loud what I think the solution is
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/9/2023 12:47 PM
We sure love our scapegoats and history can confirm that
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DevilTheAutopoet
Tbc, I'm not an advocate of punishment and retribution, but in this sort of scenario it's also kinda hard to judge someone for acting on their vengeful urges.
Insert video of a father destroying 21 year old daughter's car with a Bobcat because he saw her making out with a guy in it. Insert father who molested his daughter for years killing the now boyfriend who wants to help her cut ties with her abuser. And claiming the guy was grooming her because he was ten years older than her. (edited)
1:29 PM
Parents are more often a problem than not.
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And if not a parent, then a near relative or family friend.
1:31 PM
The vast majority of predators of minors and young adults are people related to either by blood or social circles.
1:32 PM
They get away with it because our social circles are so small and compartmentalized.
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Black Magic 4/9/2023 1:39 PM
Unfortunately there’s not much to do except expose them and hold them accountable when you can.
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The vast majority of predators of minors and young adults are people related to either by blood or social circles.
AvoidOblivion 4/9/2023 1:46 PM
Similar to how most abductions involve trusted family and friends.
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Black Magic 4/9/2023 1:47 PM
There is a psychic disease ( I use the term loosely) that we all get infected with as a result of capitalism, toxic identities and exploitation by the insatiable 1%
1:49 PM
I have a conspiracy theory that fox and it’s clones are literally vampiric.
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They get away with it because our social circles are so small and compartmentalized.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/9/2023 1:55 PM
And very often structured very hierarchically as well. What you're describing here is the fundamental problem with the nuclear family unit as a concept.
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I believe I remember Matt Walsh stating something along the lines of "if 16-year-olds are too young to give birth, are they old enough to change their gender? And I know what your answer is to that question."
floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/9/2023 1:56 PM
here in Idaho you can be an EMT at 16 and make life-changing decisions for others, so why can’t you make them for yourself? (edited)
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And very often structured very hierarchically as well. What you're describing here is the fundamental problem with the nuclear family unit as a concept.
Which is a convenient way to isolate family units from their neighbors and would be community.
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Which means they are less likely to feel emboldened enough to stand up to oppression in general. (edited)
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here in Idaho you can be an EMT at 16 and make life-changing decisions for others, so why can’t you make them for yourself? (edited)
And we have one hella cool person here dedicated to the good fight and working hard who has to fear for their survival needs if their parents find out they do this stuff. That's why I ask, what's the line we draw for people to give them autonomy of self?
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There are cases for both older and younger and situationally dependent ones as well.
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I can tell you from my experience that women taking advantage of my youth and naivety was both good and bad, but the older the women, the better the experience. Should I have been forced to only abusive interactions with 20 somethings? And never have been blessed with good kind loving partners in their 30s and 40s because I was 17 to 25?
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I couldn't drink even after I killed someone "in service" to this country.
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Which is a convenient way to isolate family units from their neighbors and would be community.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/9/2023 3:01 PM
It's also a particularly potent force in Christofascist ideals even over other fascist ideals. Secular fascists support the nuclear family as a vehicle for control, and like you said to adapt the youth to the presence of authority and isolate people so that they don't have the means to resist. For Christofascists it actually goes beyond that though, because the fundamental argument against the nuclear family is actually antithetical to their entire metaphysics and epistemics. The argument against the nuclear family is that children could have the opportunity to be raised by a variety of people in their community and gain access to the learning experiences that that brings. They'll be exposed to a wide variety of ideas that will better allow them to grow and shape who they are as autonomous individuals by discerning what ideas make the most sense to them. But Christofascists don't want their children being exposed to a variety of ideas, because in Protestant, and especially in Evangelical, theology, there is only one idea worth having because all other ideas will get you sent to hell. So, for any parent who believes this, of course they would fight tooth and nail to prevent their children from being exposed to other ideas and thus preserve the nuclear family, because otherwise they risk their children becoming apostates and going to hell.
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DevilTheAutopoet 4/9/2023 3:07 PM
People do the same shit with Anonymous that they do with Rage Against the Machine. They ignored much of the messaging and only cared about the select bits they like, usually just the vague anti-government shit since a lot of these people used to be vaguely libertarian leaning centrist liberals, then later when their own ideals have shifted towards fascism they now look at these groups being as anti-fascist as ever and actually see the messages for what they are, and then trick themselves into thinking that it's these groups that have changed.
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Black Magic 4/9/2023 3:44 PM
Having an authority worth respect is an important part of having a functioning society
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I’ve seen lots of adults who I assume were spoiled as children; break down when someone tells them what to do
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I can confirm, we are teenagers are remarkably stupid when it comes to consequence
Based on how some poorly healed injuries feel that I had sustained from the ages of 13 to 20. Can confirm.
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I’ve seen lots of adults who I assume were spoiled as children; break down when someone tells them what to do
Define break down
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Black Magic
Having an authority worth respect is an important part of having a functioning society
Any respect beyond that of individuals who know one another personally is quite simply falsified. It is manipulated by marketing, or falsely gifted based on assumption. This is why authority cannot be assumed, and must be by consent of individuals. Our system is based entirely on the false assumption of consent. Fuck our society is based on that in basically everyway. From the assumption that we consent to being forced to pay for food, to the assumption that a man is down for sex with anyone who has a cunt. From the assumption that we consent to our right to grow food being taken away from us, to the assumption that any woman should feel honored to be fucked by a man.
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There is no valid authority here. There is no valid respect for those who have authority... because those who have authority didn't fucking earn that respect.
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Saved it, just for the next time I see someone on twitter bitch about school lunches... So I can do the "This you?"
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Saved it, just for the next time I see someone on twitter bitch about school lunches... So I can do the "This you?"
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/9/2023 9:28 PM
Same.
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Black Magic 4/9/2023 10:03 PM
Every home subsistence farming would be a waste; a huge loss in quality of living and probably worse for the environment. But you talk about not paying for food; what other option do you have?
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Black Magic 4/9/2023 10:12 PM
As per your sexually charged monologue; I sense trama that is better left alone. So I’m gonna leave it alone
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Every home subsistence farming would be a waste; a huge loss in quality of living and probably worse for the environment. But you talk about not paying for food; what other option do you have?
As someone who want to set up groundwork for Urban farming, land mass hogging farming is worse
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literally
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water hogging, land scape fucking, backstabbing fuckers
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Quality of life is arguable given for many, urban farming and home subsistence farming is literally a god send in numerous ways
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Every home subsistence farming would be a waste; a huge loss in quality of living and probably worse for the environment. But you talk about not paying for food; what other option do you have?
Divorce thyself of your nuclear family rugged individualist preconceptions. They are but tools of oppression forged and levied upon you by your overlords. Half joking aside... There is zero reason to have single family dwellings outside of a communal residence... it breeds segregation from community, isolates and destroys one of our greatest species traits. In a community of 10-30, it takes less than half to produce WAY more food than the whole needs, quality of life you say? First of all growing food is actually quite enjoyable... but even if not everyone wants to participate in it, it doesn't take all that much time. We have VASTLY more knowledge about agriculture than even those people at the turn of the last century did. Victory Gardens during WWII were neighborhood affairs... with daily work being done by one person and the block coming together to harvest together as a social event. If we built housing that harnessed the value of the climate and geography to limit energy use, and we build individual homes within a collective whole, where families or individuals were part of a group which worked together... the quality of life would very rapidly surpass that of capitalist family isolationism. Even if it took a tremendous amount of labor to begin, it would reap huge benefits as time went on. @Aces high Ron is the shit. Literally someone everyone who refuses to leave urban areas should emulate and learn from. He was even picked to be a part of the MasterClass online project... and their list of experts is highly refined and vetted... For example Neil Gaiman is one of their writer experts. The FBI's leading body language reader/negotiator is their picked expert on negotiation. Ron is theirs on urban gardening.
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Also, as a Californian, It long term fucks over those (rich wealthy landowning) farmers in Central Valley
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also hydroponic gardening has been shown to be able to adapt to city life just fine and you can recycle the water very VERY easily
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get the popcorn
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Also, as a Californian, It long term fucks over those (rich wealthy landowning) farmers in Central Valley
Another note on that front. Achieving even 80% sustainability for 20 people removes over 400k from the pockets of rich elite every year. Even if you can achieve only 30% sustainability in an urban setting, but get a large percentage of people involved, then ya, you take a huge quantity of money out of the hands of the people who (at least in California) are literally sucking the state dry of water.
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Don't get me started on the fucking almond growers.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/10/2023 9:55 AM
Shooting in Louisville
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Shooting in Louisville
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/10/2023 10:11 AM
FBI's involved.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Shooting in Louisville
AvoidOblivion 4/10/2023 10:20 AM
Louisville Metro Police 3 – Divisions 1 and 2 Live Audio Feed on Broadcastify.com
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Confirmed, it is in Old National Bank. Multiple casualties so far. 10:24 EST: Governor is being taken to the Main Concourse in Louisville according to the scanner. (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/10/2023 10:25 AM
Bank robbery?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/10/2023 10:37 AM
Humphrey says the active shooter was dead upon police arrival. 5 people are dead, 6 transported to the hospital – including an officer with various injuries. No active danger to the public at this time @LMPD will be answering questions at another update at 11:30 @WHAS11
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/10/2023 10:47 AM
how did a cop get injured with the shooter DOA?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/10/2023 10:50 AM
Probably one that was on scene
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thats my guess
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Really wish people would stop holding rally's in the middle of the workday. Like common guys, Saturday is right there.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/10/2023 12:53 PM
yeah i always wonder about that
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WeLl YoU sHoUlD tAkE tHe DaY oFf is my favorite. Most who actually pay their own bills don't have this an option.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/10/2023 2:12 PM
yep
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WeLl YoU sHoUlD tAkE tHe DaY oFf is my favorite. Most who actually pay their own bills don't have this an option.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/10/2023 2:14 PM
Voting should be a paid holiday. Period. Full stop. A day you can take off no matter what, and with a full 8 hours of pay
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You are legally allowed to take the day off, buy it’s not paid
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It needs to be
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/10/2023 2:16 PM
if nothing else, employers should be forced to give the option of a break to vote
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Voting should be a paid holiday. Period. Full stop. A day you can take off no matter what, and with a full 8 hours of pay
Okay voting especially. I had work during most elections as an adult with no time given otherwise. That's a total ripoff.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/10/2023 2:17 PM
my company allows us to take time to vote but idk if we’d be out of service to do that
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It specifically disenfranchises poor working people which is a bit twisted. Aren't those the ones "pulling up by the bootstraps"? Probably why they don't want them voting, lol
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Okay voting especially. I had work during most elections as an adult with no time given otherwise. That's a total ripoff.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/10/2023 2:22 PM
You LEGALLY have the right to take that day off without penalty, but it’s unacceptable that it’s not paid
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You LEGALLY have the right to take that day off without penalty, but it’s unacceptable that it’s not paid
Yeah rent and family are where that gets tricky. You can leave, but unless you're making that up it can be some shit.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
if nothing else, employers should be forced to give the option of a break to vote
In CA, this is actually the law!
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They have to give you a couple of hours to vote
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/10/2023 2:30 PM
curious how that works for emergency services
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that would be a lot of trucks out of service
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MisterStompy 4/10/2023 2:30 PM
I'm very proud of the fact that I helped bring this to fruition via making random fake conservative accounts on various social medias and just posting the wackiest bullshit I could think of before they got nuked https://twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1645484995287343107
Republican voters are now threatening to boycott voting if Donald Trump loses in 2024: “If he doesn’t win in 2024, I’ll never vote again.” https://t.co/jc2OoFGhwd
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I think they're highly encouraged to drop off/mail in votes
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DON'T THREATEN ME WITH A GOOD TIME
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I'm very proud of the fact that I helped bring this to fruition via making random fake conservative accounts on various social medias and just posting the wackiest bullshit I could think of before they got nuked https://twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1645484995287343107
floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/10/2023 2:30 PM
PROMISE??
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My job at the last one was chill thankfully but I've got stuck at the polling places for hours before. 2016 was balls.
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Mail-ins and COVID in 2020 kind of kept it down, but not the drama sadly, lol
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CA?
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I know in CA, from both my mom's experience of using the rule and from friend's experiences your boss HAS to let you vote if you go out to vote (edited)
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a hour to two hours is the general time given
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Mail-ins and COVID in 2020 kind of kept it down, but not the drama sadly, lol
MisterStompy 4/10/2023 2:33 PM
Nah I wasn't doing anything then, I just saw the discourse and around 2022 started making burner Twitter accounts that did nothing but post conspiracy shit about DeSantis being a communist and responding to liberals with Sanford and Son gifs
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The fact that we would accept mailed in ballots before authenticated online votes is hilarious to me though. As if one is somehow secure because... paper? Idk lol
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the idea is they vote early in their shift and can spend the rest of the day working
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MisterStompy 4/10/2023 2:34 PM
That's a conservative thing I noticed, they think using reaciton gifs with black people in them makes it okay for them to be racist sometimes
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The fact that we would accept mailed in ballots before authenticated online votes is hilarious to me though. As if one is somehow secure because... paper? Idk lol
it goes through the post office
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who does NOT fuck around
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the postman got Bannon after all
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MisterStompy 4/10/2023 2:35 PM
The US mail service has it's own private police force
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Except when mailing drugs, losing packages, and being pretty susceptible to local manipulation. USPS be sussy a lot.
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MisterStompy 4/10/2023 2:35 PM
In the event of governmental collapse there will be a three way war between the US Postal Service, the IRS and the Church of Scientology
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probably
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MisterStompy 4/10/2023 2:35 PM
Mormons might get involved too
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Eh, the church side will see Mormons, Evangelicals and Scientologist try to kill each other
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Mormons might get involved too
There you go. + Bohemian Grove/Illuminati guys in the bunkers, don't forget!
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also drugs tend to be Fedex from what I heard
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Seem like realistic Fallout factions though, lol
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MisterStompy 4/10/2023 2:37 PM
That reminds me of this really cool alternate history thing I read where there was a nuclear war in 1983 and New York is controlled by a bunch of vigilantes called The Rangers
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also drugs tend to be Fedex from what I heard
I know from... people lol that USPS was the way to go. AliBaba and Silk Road used to do alllll kinds of illicit sales through post and even drug dealers would use it to ship between distributors. They don't sniff the packages.
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MisterStompy 4/10/2023 2:38 PM
A bunch of kids playing hockey beat bandits to death with hockey sticks, then they break into an old NHL facility and get helmets and uniforms of The New York Rangers
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Like a good version of Caesar's Legion
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I can believe it
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Hockey players and fans are a special kind of crazy and durable
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You can straight mail a gun, I know someone who did it in just a standard box. That's nono but it happens.
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MisterStompy 4/10/2023 2:39 PM
They patrol neighborhoods with rifles and these custom battle axes made out of ice skates strapped to hockey sticks
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They patrol neighborhoods with rifles and these custom battle axes made out of ice skates strapped to hockey sticks
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considering Ice skates are sharp enough to potentially decap a guy, that is a very valid weapon
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MisterStompy 4/10/2023 2:41 PM
Look, can't we just get BEYOND Thunderdome,already?
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You can straight mail a gun, I know someone who did it in just a standard box. That's nono but it happens.
Then someone dun fucking up. Can't mail guns in CA directly cause our post office does NOT fuck around
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also gun control laws (although mailing them to gun shops IS valid)
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No I'm sure that's not how it's supposed to work but I knew people well that were making income sending weird stuff. Mail seemed almost deliberately insecure to me, but that's my sort of anecdotes on it.
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I don't endorse it either I thought they were nuts. Bold af though 😹
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/10/2023 2:50 PM
Oh for fuck's sake.
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MisterStompy 4/10/2023 2:50 PM
Wasn't he an employee?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Oh for fuck's sake.
eyes rolling
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Gtf over this shit, people. They want it to be a problem so desperately.
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also he COULD be a cis man trying to clairify "yeah, I'm cis"
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also
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that reminds me
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Gtf over this shit, people. They want it to be a problem so desperately.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/10/2023 3:00 PM
Sorry, this shit makes my fucking blood boil to an unbelievable degree. They so desperately want an excuse to commit genocide.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/10/2023 3:02 PM
Domino’s spent $50 million to market that they gave local businesses $100,000 total
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Everything is a spectacle.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Sorry, this shit makes my fucking blood boil to an unbelievable degree. They so desperately want an excuse to commit genocide.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 3:17 PM
Nazis and Tyrants look for the meekest and most vulnerable of people to harm first, as a trial run to amass power and control.
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the problem is
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as club q showed
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Oh for fuck's sake.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 3:18 PM
This is just a compelling reason to delete the corporate whoring social media site known as LinkedIn.
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America's trans folk...aren't as meek as they think
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but yes, we should definitely have these chucklefucks dealt with as soon as possible
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America's trans folk...aren't as meek as they think
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 3:19 PM
I split with Progressives heavily when it comes to Firearms. I believe most LBTQ+ folks should arm themselves for self-defense.
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tbh I'm pro gun control AND pro breaking out a shot gun to deal with a fash getting "uppity"
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you CAN be both
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 3:21 PM
It's not just about gun control though, it's more a fear of and refusal to learn and understand firearms.
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I grew up learning God may have made Man, but it was Samuel Colt who made Man Equal.
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tbh it is NOT helped with the honest fact the left as a whole (even the gun owning left) has failed to challenge the gun nut culture in the US
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it is EXTREMELY toxic
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they talk of the right training all the time, but they give no means of left having a safe space to do the same (edited)
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that said, quite a few national parks have free ranges
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part of hunting culture
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 3:24 PM
Gun Culture is a symbol of rural life, as there are enormous parts of the Country you cannot rely on police for your defense. There's a whole host of things the Left as a whole has failed to challenge these Tyrants on - especially when it comes to Patriotism, and American Identity, which in my opinion has led to everything we've seen here.
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IMO y'all wanna get serious show up to the range with AIF patches on your gear.
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I think it ought to be less about challenging gun nut culture, and more about absorbing gun nut culture into leftist ideals. Wasn't it Marx himself who said the Working Class must never be disarmed?
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but yes, we should definitely have these chucklefucks dealt with as soon as possible
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 3:30 PM
My preferred term is Chickenhead.
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Gun Culture is a symbol of rural life, as there are enormous parts of the Country you cannot rely on police for your defense. There's a whole host of things the Left as a whole has failed to challenge these Tyrants on - especially when it comes to Patriotism, and American Identity, which in my opinion has led to everything we've seen here.
and its toxic as fuck
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that's my issue with it
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/10/2023 3:32 PM
Idk how to change it, though.
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Especially since we’ve been trying to tell the right that we have guns too in the first place
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you don't
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and its toxic as fuck
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 3:32 PM
It's toxic because we ceded this ground to toxic people.
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exactly
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we need to purge the toxic elements from it
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Especially since we’ve been trying to tell the right that we have guns too in the first place
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 3:33 PM
Don't tell them. Show them at the range.
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yup
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same rules as furries
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purge the chuds out
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I do think a more valid approach is less making guns more "acceptable" and more "This is a tool with the intent to commit harm. That is what it is for. However, sometimes you must inflict harm on someone who can't be argued with"
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"Someone with no hesitation to harm you"
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 3:37 PM
I think that's a bit more aggressive than you ought to go for. These are weapons, which are tools designed to kill folks. The people who want to use them to kill you have them, the only question is whether or not you will have them yourself to even the odds.
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that's basically what I'm saying
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duh
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also, "Gun control must be enforced at gun point"
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 3:38 PM
Your statement felt a little like you were condoning preemptive strikes, which isn't a great look imo
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nah
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Just pointing out sometimes you gotta fight back was my intention
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you shouldn't if you can
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but there's situations where its death or attack
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 3:40 PM
I ascribe to the Malcolm Reynolds School of Gun Philosophy. "If somebody ever tries to kill you, you try to kill 'em right back."
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basically
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Don't tell them. Show them at the range.
I make sure to wave every time I drive by folks out there 😹
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Or in my case: (and yes this happened to me) chase your would be attacker with a baseball bat screaming in tongues and possibly sticking said bat in places that a bat shouldn't go like you got possessed (edited)
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Or in my case: (and yes this happened to me) chase your would be attacker with a baseball bat screaming in tongues and possibly sticking said bat in places that a bat shouldn't go like you got possessed (edited)
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yeah so like
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I once had a peeping tom who was peeking on me while I was at my desktop. I saw him, and instead of getting scared, I very calmly walked away, grabbed my bedside bat, and walked to the back of my house, telling my parents to call the cops. I walk outside, see the dude trying to climb the fence and I start, in my mom's words "Either screaming tongues like Satan himself possessed me or very VERY angry threats of me doing terrible things to him, likely involving the bat or gouging his eyes" and running to beat this asshole off the fence
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my stepdad grabbed me and dragged me inside before I could, but then he gave chase to the dude, only for the dude to jump the fence to a neighbor's party (where he was from) and hauled ass outta there
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I once told my friend this story, and he said I was this fucking video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=328TbiUlv60
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Black Magic 4/10/2023 3:53 PM
I once had one of my sisters drug addict friends try to break in through my back door
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I opened the back door with a Glock in my hand; but she was so far gone she didn’t realize how close she was to getting capped
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I am glad I didn’t have to, but the words “ can I help you” while pointing a gun at the person I didn’t know at the time. Stick with me
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I am glad I didn’t have to, but the words “ can I help you” while pointing a gun at the person I didn’t know at the time. Stick with me
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 3:59 PM
points for politeness
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I've only ever drawn a gun on some weirdo sneaking in our pasture at night. I came around on him and he deuced right tf out when I yelled, "How the fuck you doin'?" Didn't even put a shell in yet 😹
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Usually it's just animals and I'm not on edge but nope. Creepy looking white Boomer dude.
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I will generally try everything to deescalate a situation. Shotguns give +10 Intimidation though.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 4:08 PM
racking a 12 gauge pump action will put the Fear of the Lord into the most hateful and scum-sucking of bigots and Nazis
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/10/2023 4:29 PM
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TheAnonymousDew 4/10/2023 5:06 PM
My stance on gun control is simple, I have no problem with law abiding citizens owning them, issue is a lot of people in this country have guns that shouldn't have them, and perhaps getting semi-automatic high capacity (Holding 20 or more rounds) weapons like the AR-15 off the streets as a long term goal (edited)
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Remember, Eugene Stoner himself never intended for the AR-15 to be in civilian hands
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Note: I said long term
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And yes that would include the Ruger Mini 14 , and M14
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 5:23 PM
Yes but the Right is weaponizing the State to abuse gun control laws solely to keep them out of the hands of Black folks.
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And while y'all are equivocating about the issue, the Right is arming themselves to openly murder Americans.
5:26 PM
My stance on gun control is also simple. If you're LBTQ+, you ought to try an AR-15.
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My stance on gun control is simple, I have no problem with law abiding citizens owning them, issue is a lot of people in this country have guns that shouldn't have them, and perhaps getting semi-automatic high capacity (Holding 20 or more rounds) weapons like the AR-15 off the streets as a long term goal (edited)
I literally don't give two shits about legality. And no one here ought to either. There is a US code which can be applied to literally anyone here... not the same one, but there are literally libraries full of laws they can prosecute you for that you don't know about. And they are making more specific to anti-fascism as we speak.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 5:28 PM
Doesn't mean I'm going to help Law Enforcement. Anyone advocating for defying serious laws is going to get patriots locked up and taken out of the fight. Not to mention the field day Neo-Goebbels will have on Faux News...
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I literally don't give two shits about legality. And no one here ought to either. There is a US code which can be applied to literally anyone here... not the same one, but there are literally libraries full of laws they can prosecute you for that you don't know about. And they are making more specific to anti-fascism as we speak.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 5:38 PM
This is a very foolish notion to openly advocate for. Everyone here ought to arm themselves through legal means.
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I literally don't give two shits about legality. And no one here ought to either. There is a US code which can be applied to literally anyone here... not the same one, but there are literally libraries full of laws they can prosecute you for that you don't know about. And they are making more specific to anti-fascism as we speak.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/10/2023 5:38 PM
Isn’t anarchism illegal on the books, just unenforced?
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Isn’t anarchism illegal on the books, just unenforced?
Oh yeah absolutely, but I wasn't even mentioning that because not all of us are. Also I'm just stating facts... any defense lawyer will tell you, you are a walking criminal, you just don't know it.
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It would not hold up in court if it were
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I think CPUSA is officially banned too technically
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knuckles
It would not hold up in court if it were
An Anarchist killed a president. It'll hold up at the Supreme Court and that's all that matters.
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Certainly this SCOTUS.
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Spinner
Oh yeah absolutely, but I wasn't even mentioning that because not all of us are. Also I'm just stating facts... any defense lawyer will tell you, you are a walking criminal, you just don't know it.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 5:44 PM
I swear to god you talk like a fed trying to take pieces off the board through this kind of buffoonery.
5:46 PM
Keep shit above board y'all. You ain't helping nobody from a jail cell.
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I'm kinda wondering where I advocated for criminal action. Because all I did was state a fact. There are SO MANY laws on the books right now that literally anyone anywhere in this country can be charged with at least a few.
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I literally don't give two shits about legality. And no one here ought to either. There is a US code which can be applied to literally anyone here... not the same one, but there are literally libraries full of laws they can prosecute you for that you don't know about. And they are making more specific to anti-fascism as we speak.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 5:52 PM
Right here. Where you said nobody here ought to give 2 shits about legality.
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They'd have to try pretty hard to get you arrested AND convicted for total bullshit and not get their asses kicked in court
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unless you live in a city where cops don't wear bodycams and it's so corrupt they just plant crack on you with impunity or some shit
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They'd have to try pretty hard to get you arrested AND convicted for total bullshit and not get their asses kicked in court
For some charges sure. But the point stands... there are zero "law-abiding citizens" in this country.
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unless you live in a city where cops don't wear bodycams and it's so corrupt they just plant crack on you with impunity or some shit
Pretty common outside of cities.
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could be anywhere
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Spinner
For some charges sure. But the point stands... there are zero "law-abiding citizens" in this country.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 5:58 PM
You're literally normalizing thinking of yourself as a criminal, perhaps to prime folks here into committing criminal acts? Starting to wonder if there is a damn good reason why you rub me the wrong way so much Spinner.
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could be anywhere
Especially since the worst retribution a pig will face for turning off a body cam is a stern talking to.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 5:59 PM
Arm yourselves through legal means y'all. You ain't gonna do nothing but destroy your future and keep you from being able to make a difference when it counts.
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You're literally normalizing thinking of yourself as a criminal, perhaps to prime folks here into committing criminal acts? Starting to wonder if there is a damn good reason why you rub me the wrong way so much Spinner.
Why are you spending your time on here pulling out techniques from the COINTELPRO Manual? Like you didn't even waste a day before you started shit.
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Also I didn't say anything about how anyone arms oneself. This strawman you've built regarding me is very telling about your purpose here.
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You're literally normalizing thinking of yourself as a criminal, perhaps to prime folks here into committing criminal acts? Starting to wonder if there is a damn good reason why you rub me the wrong way so much Spinner.
You know who's been here longer and contributed more than you here? Literally nearly every motherfucker on this discord. You have zero credibility, you've earned zero respect. Stop trying to tear me down to elevate yourself, particularly with such childish fallacious arguments like cherry picking and strawmanning. It's just weak.
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Why are you spending your time on here pulling out techniques from the COINTELPRO Manual? Like you didn't even waste a day before you started shit.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 6:03 PM
I've been here almost a year, been starting shit since the day I got here because you have a responsibility to do this right. You're literally commenting that folks shouldn't care about legality when talking about owning firearms and that everyone is a criminal.
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I've been here almost a year, been starting shit since the day I got here because you have a responsibility to do this right. You're literally commenting that folks shouldn't care about legality when talking about owning firearms and that everyone is a criminal.
Strawman again.
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I literally don't give two shits about legality. And no one here ought to either. There is a US code which can be applied to literally anyone here... not the same one, but there are literally libraries full of laws they can prosecute you for that you don't know about. And they are making more specific to anti-fascism as we speak.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 6:04 PM
Why should nobody give 2 shits about legality when it comes to arming yourselves?
6:05 PM
It's not a strawman, it's your own words.
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You gonna try to put more words in my mouth and make you sound like more of an idiot?
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 6:05 PM
You put the words in your mouth.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
It's not a strawman, it's your own words.
I didn't once mention arming anyone in that message, strawman. fuck off.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 6:05 PM
You were commenting in the context of folks arming themselves, don't lie.
6:06 PM
You were directly replying to somebody talking about arming themselves.
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I also wasn't responding you your trolling ass, I was responding to the idea that law abiding citizens should have access to guns. There is no law abiding citizen in this nation, there cannot be, everyone does something every day that is illegal per US or state or county or municipal law.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 6:07 PM
Again, I don't know who needs to hear it. Y'all should be arming yourselves through legal means. Do not listen to anyone like @Spinner who is telling us that we shouldn't care about legality and that everyone is already a criminal.
6:08 PM
That's common sense
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 6:08 PM
One of the rarest things in the Universe.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/10/2023 6:11 PM
He never said anything about people being armed in the first place, pretty sure it was in response to AnonymousDew advocating for combat rifles to be held behind legality
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For example, medical marijuana card holders in California cannot get their CCP. There is zero reason for that, but carrying concealed as a marijuana medical card holder is illegal.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/10/2023 6:14 PM
I think what he really means is that if they want to persecute us for what we're doing, they already have enough, and that it doesn't matter if you've done 1 crime or 10 crimes, you're still a criminal in their eyes. It's not advocacy for violating laws, but saying that we're kinda already past that point.
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Ofc not trying to put words in your mouth
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 6:15 PM
What we're doing isn't illegal -
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They cannot magically throw you in prison for jaywalking when you're actually an agitator
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Ofc not trying to put words in your mouth
You're good, I was done talking to that schyster.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
What we're doing isn't illegal -
floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/10/2023 6:16 PM
you put too much faith in the government when they want to get dirty
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Spinner
You're good, I was done talking to that schyster.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 6:17 PM
I do not care for you much either Spinner. I find you vain, egotistical, and self-indulgent.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/10/2023 6:17 PM
not to make an appeal to authority / experience, but i'd really trust the guy who's been doing this sort of stuff for longer than i've been alive when it comes to how this shit goes
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
you put too much faith in the government when they want to get dirty
Like when they picked up people walking the streets legally at gunpoint just because there was a protest that night.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/10/2023 6:17 PM
yeah, remember how the FBI prawled portland in white vans and snatched people in 2020?
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
yeah, remember how the FBI prawled portland in white vans and snatched people in 2020?
And held those people without arraignment while grilling them for dozens of hours about antifa.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 6:19 PM
Which is why it's that much more important for everything that you're doing to be 110% above board.
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They're literally looking for excuses to lock folks up.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/10/2023 6:19 PM
they didn't even have excuses back then is the thing
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
I do not care for you much either Spinner. I find you vain, egotistical, and self-indulgent.
Love that for you. smoochies
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they didn't even have excuses back then is the thing
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 6:20 PM
Which indicative of the progress we've made.
6:24 PM
We have a serious and somber role to play in the days ahead, that is why I'm so critical. Me? I'm nothing. I'm trailer trash from bullfrog creek, and have zero interest in elevating myself like Spinner has claimed. I do, however, have all the interest of my soul, in preserving this Republic. A Republic which, while deeply, deeply flawed, connects this dumb white cracker to different cultures, believes, languages, and ideals that I would have never been exposed to otherwise.
6:24 PM
A Republic that makes out of many, one.
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We have a duty and obligation to realize that Republic in full, and by fucking around, we're squandering something really really important. I'd encourage you all to walk with foresight and intent.
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TheAnonymousDew 4/10/2023 6:26 PM
We have a duty to preserve true American ideals.. Democracy, one person one vote
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Go join the FBI... they are concerned with saving the Republic. We're concerned with protecting people. And that includes from that Republic.
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TheAnonymousDew 4/10/2023 6:26 PM
I'm no anarchist
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By no means am I one
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If you cannot identify the fascism in your own government, you aren't anti-fascist either.
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TheAnonymousDew 4/10/2023 6:27 PM
My state's governor is acting like a fascist for example
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But I wasn't talking about you Dew.
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TheAnonymousDew 4/10/2023 6:28 PM
Oh
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We have to build a broad coalition, Spinner
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We are in no place to gatekeep
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I'm not gonna have someone at my back who will shoot me when a Fed tells him to.
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TheAnonymousDew 4/10/2023 6:28 PM
This doesn't mean we should be blind to fascism
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Spinner
If you cannot identify the fascism in your own government, you aren't anti-fascist either.
You missed the "deeply, deeply flawed" part
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TheAnonymousDew 4/10/2023 6:29 PM
America is flawed, there is no denying that
6:29 PM
But nobody was
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Spinner
I'm not gonna have someone at my back who will shoot me when a Fed tells him to.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 6:29 PM
Where on earth do you get this from
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TheAnonymousDew 4/10/2023 6:29 PM
No just government would order their own citizens to kill each other
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Or try to get their own citizens to kill other citizens
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Or try to get their own citizens to kill other citizens
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 6:30 PM
No, but Abbott is literally going to pardon a convicted murderer who murdered a BLM protester. We're not far off.
6:31 PM
But until the rule of law collapses entirely, by straying outside the law, we aren't helping the Cause. (edited)
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
No, but Abbott is literally going to pardon a convicted murderer who murdered a BLM protester. We're not far off.
TheAnonymousDew 4/10/2023 6:31 PM
Which is undermines one of our own principles of rule of law
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Thing is it wasn't even the Castile Doctrine, it was straight up premeditated
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 6:31 PM
Agreed. It's a rapid acceleration of the coming events, possibly outdoing the expulsion of the Tennessee House members.
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TheAnonymousDew 4/10/2023 6:32 PM
There's a fine line between self-defense, which was what happened with Rittenhouse (as much as we don't like it, it technically was), and that, which is straight up murder (edited)
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TheAnonymousDew
No just government would order their own citizens to kill each other
It's not just citizens murdering others, The original Iron Front was brought down by a member from inside who gave them up like a rat... with ironically the same ideologies that Alex just espoused.
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It's not just citizens murdering others, The original Iron Front was brought down by a member from inside who gave them up like a rat... with ironically the same ideologies that Alex just espoused.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 6:33 PM
Now I understand what your part in this is. Thank you for outing yourself so early on.
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And the US makes very good use of citizens turning on other citizens.
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TheAnonymousDew 4/10/2023 6:34 PM
We must not infight
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TheAnonymousDew
We must not infight
Too late, that motherfucker been picking that infight for a while now.
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Too late, that motherfucker been picking that infight for a while now.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 6:34 PM
This is actually correct. Since I've joined I've picked a number of arguments.
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TheAnonymousDew 4/10/2023 6:34 PM
Anybody ever learn about the French Resistance?
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
This is actually correct. Since I've joined I've picked a number of arguments.
Glad you admit your intent to instigate infighting. Love that for you.
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Spinner
Glad you admit your intent to instigate infighting. Love that for you.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 6:35 PM
If you're going to do this, you have to do it right.
6:36 PM
I will gladly draw ire for pointing out dipshittery.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
I will gladly draw ire for pointing out dipshittery.
You mean intentionally misrepresenting people's statements in order to create discontent.
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You mean intentionally misrepresenting people's statements in order to create discontent.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 6:37 PM
Literally quoting your own words at face value.
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And saying hey maybe not.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
Literally quoting your own words at face value.
Not once did you use my words without inserting a few of your own to change the intent and meaning. But go on.
6:38 PM
Either way, I'm out for the day, let the narcissist find another black sheep to attack to make himself feel better.
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You know who's been here longer and contributed more than you here? Literally nearly every motherfucker on this discord. You have zero credibility, you've earned zero respect. Stop trying to tear me down to elevate yourself, particularly with such childish fallacious arguments like cherry picking and strawmanning. It's just weak.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 6:42 PM
Methinks the Lady doth protest too much.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/10/2023 7:06 PM
Hate to be the guy to get into shit here he has no business getting in, but I think Alex, as much of a dick as he’s been in the convo so far, is in the right here
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking
Hate to be the guy to get into shit here he has no business getting in, but I think Alex, as much of a dick as he’s been in the convo so far, is in the right here
I'm curious what he was right about? Arm ourselves legally? Yeah. Not do anything that is currently high visability illegal? Sure. His assertions that I suggested the opposite? Not at all accurate.
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I can see why he thought that you meant it though
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The issue is, he tossed in fairly universally accepted as true statements alongside his accusations that were not based on anything that was said. So the conversation got muddled and the two things were juxtaposed.
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knuckles
I can see why he thought that you meant it though
But did I actually say that? Did I even respond to him when saying what I did which sparked his accusations? (edited)
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My stance on gun control is simple, I have no problem with law abiding citizens owning them, ...
Your reply was
I literally don't give two shits about legality. And no one here ought to either ...
So he seems to think you meant "it doesn't matter if you get a gun legally or illegally"
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/10/2023 7:25 PM
we4 can hear you @TheAnonymousDew
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He actually did the same thing with Reg back on August 4th of last year, and then he sparked a fight with Wotjek a few days later resulting in him being put in a time out... disappeared for a while after that except for a few attempts to make changes to the server unilaterally.
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My stance on gun control is simple, I have no problem with law abiding citizens owning them, ...
Your reply was
I literally don't give two shits about legality. And no one here ought to either ...
So he seems to think you meant "it doesn't matter if you get a gun legally or illegally"
If he acknowledged his misunderstanding what I said, instead of resorting to arguing in bad faith, I'd have simply said "Hey no worries, we make mistakes, I can see how you misinterpreted that." It wouldn't be the first time here I've done that.
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Absolutely
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He actually did the same thing with Reg back on August 4th of last year, and then he sparked a fight with Wotjek a few days later resulting in him being put in a time out... disappeared for a while after that except for a few attempts to make changes to the server unilaterally.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 7:33 PM
In case anyone was curious as to what "make changes to the server unilaterally" is disingenuously referring to. I asked the mods several times if we could do shit like this to get us more organized for making a difference in the election.
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Not sure how asking for permission and fostering discussion is construed as making unilateral changes, but hey at least you'll drop the bs about being here before me now?
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
Not sure how asking for permission and fostering discussion is construed as making unilateral changes, but hey at least you'll drop the bs about being here before me now?
This you?
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 7:34 PM
Yes! Yes, it is.
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God I'm so proud.
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I don't care if you're a mod or an admin I will mouth off to you if you're in the wrong.
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Yeah, you were talking shit... and left for over a month after you got your peepee slapped for the same things you've done today and yesterday.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 7:35 PM
I was actually doing the work.
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You also harassed a member of the discord by DMing them without permission.
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And refused to stop or admit fault when they called you out publicly.
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Which incidentally led to that little break you were given.
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And refused to stop or admit fault when they called you out publicly.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 7:36 PM
No, you move.
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Some things you don't compromise on, a power tripping admin is one of them.
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I am absolutely loving this though, by all means air all my dirty laundry.
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Harassment is harassment bud. You engaged in it, you refused to cease when asked to. I don't know why you are here still tbh.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 7:37 PM
Because other Admins felt that punishment was extremely excessive.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
Because other Admins felt that punishment was extremely excessive.
Yeah... that's why you were gone for over a month.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 7:38 PM
I was actually doing the work.
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And the dude gave you a one day time out.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 7:38 PM
Not just talking on discord.
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Yeah ok bud.
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And the dude gave you a one day time out.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 7:38 PM
it was a week actually, if memory serves.
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Okay here's the deal. I get that you were mistaken about my intention earlier today. I forgive you for that. Do not @ me, do not message me, do not respond to me. Otherwise I will consider it harassment.
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Spinner
Harassment is harassment bud. You engaged in it, you refused to cease when asked to. I don't know why you are here still tbh.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 7:40 PM
Okay, I will talk about you as if you aren't present.
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How's everyone else doing?
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That's harassment right there by responding to me. And it's harassment to speak about someone as if they aren't there to spite the request not to speak to them. (edited)
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 7:41 PM
I'd like to start a public education on what the definition of harassment is, in case there are some poor souls who have no idea.
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I have been wondering about Spinner's motives though guys, I readily admit this. Dude has a ton of free time apparently, claims to be a Navy combat vet (lots of questions there), and has been politically active since before joining the military. A curious career. I don't know many political activists who went on to join the Navy and see combat. I'd be curious to know what his job was.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/10/2023 7:46 PM
I could say the same to you; it seems every time you come on this discord, you end up in a fight with someone for some reason.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 7:47 PM
AIF has a part to play in the coming events. I believe we have a responsibility and a duty to get it right. Question me as much as you like.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/10/2023 7:48 PM
didn’t you even get a mute from the mods a bit ago over the exact same thing going on today?
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 7:48 PM
I got a mute last year because a power tripping mod wanted me to submit to his authoritah and I refused.
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I have problems with folks who abuse power.
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I'm stubborn as a mule, and have no problem being the sacrificial lamb to make a point.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
I'm stubborn as a mule, and have no problem being the sacrificial lamb to make a point.
Just a little news for you. No one here thinks @WojtektheBear was in the wrong for giving you a time out. And that includes the actual anarchists.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 7:52 PM
I pointed out the admin in question was allowing others to advocate for violence and got muted.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
I have been wondering about Spinner's motives though guys, I readily admit this. Dude has a ton of free time apparently, claims to be a Navy combat vet (lots of questions there), and has been politically active since before joining the military. A curious career. I don't know many political activists who went on to join the Navy and see combat. I'd be curious to know what his job was.
WojtektheBear 4/10/2023 7:52 PM
Veterans aren’t inherently sus, you have absolutely every right to dissociate from AIF if that offends you. He’s done nothing wrong and it seems you’re causing trouble again. I will absolutely time you out again if you continue to cause trouble and attack members who don’t (edited)
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
I pointed out the admin in question was allowing others to advocate for violence and got muted.
Interesting reframing of the events.
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Spinner
Interesting reframing of the events.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 7:53 PM
You can read for yourself if you like.
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I think everyone should just cool it and cut this off here. This argument has gone on for long enough.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/10/2023 7:54 PM
Seconded. This is not helping anyone.
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Focus on fighting the fash, not eachother.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 7:55 PM
I fear he is the fash
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
I fear he is the fash
WojtektheBear 4/10/2023 7:55 PM
You’re making outrageous accusations
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 7:56 PM
I didn't accuse anyone, just expressed a fear.
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the both of you give me bad juju
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
I didn't accuse anyone, just expressed a fear.
WojtektheBear 4/10/2023 7:57 PM
So you’re making an assumption and airing it publicly. A distinction without a difference. Please refrain from that type of talk unless you have actual evidence.
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WojtektheBear
So you’re making an assumption and airing it publicly. A distinction without a difference. Please refrain from that type of talk unless you have actual evidence.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 7:57 PM
A fear isn't an assumption.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
A fear isn't an assumption.
WojtektheBear 4/10/2023 7:58 PM
Look man I’m just begging you to stop triggering useless infighting. Please.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/10/2023 7:58 PM
Can we PLEASE stop this screaming match now?
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WojtektheBear 4/10/2023 7:58 PM
Everyone else stand down
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That’s a mod request
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/10/2023 8:03 PM
jesus christ on the goddamned cross what the fuck happened while I was gone
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AIF Cuirassier regiment
jesus christ on the goddamned cross what the fuck happened while I was gone
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/10/2023 8:04 PM
An argument.
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I'd advise keeping your head down at this point.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/10/2023 8:04 PM
a pretty big one
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yeah imma just....not scroll any further
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 8:05 PM
Spinner shitting on me while being helped by an admin, an admin I specifically reported to the other admins for sweeping calls to violence under the rug.
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Spinner shitting on me while being helped by an admin, an admin I specifically reported to the other admins for sweeping calls to violence under the rug.
WojtektheBear 4/10/2023 8:06 PM
Lol man do not start spreading absolutely untrue rumors
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 8:07 PM
I'm happy to share screenshots with everyone if you wanna go that route Woj. I would say it's been too long, but in truth, it really hasn't been long enough.
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WojtektheBear 4/10/2023 8:07 PM
@AlexanderthePrettyGood I’m not checking vc but I recommend you think very carefully about how unpleasant you are being to people who are supposed to be your comrades
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I have been wondering about Spinner's motives though guys, I readily admit this. Dude has a ton of free time apparently, claims to be a Navy combat vet (lots of questions there), and has been politically active since before joining the military. A curious career. I don't know many political activists who went on to join the Navy and see combat. I'd be curious to know what his job was.
I was a Quartermaster who left the Navy with an honorable medical discharge after 3 years during which I participated in VBSS team boarding actions during the Iraq Embargo Blockade (Operation Iron Siren + Operation Southern Watch), during those boarding actions I was either topside security or shotgunner in two man sweep teams. After that I spent some time driving small craft earning my Coxswain pin in addition to my already attained Enlisted Surface Warfare pin. I saw combat 3 times, once was something I regret, the second was defensive and I am still horrified by, and the third left me with multiple disabilities. Prior to my service I was a punk and anthro-nerd, who still believed the US could be redeemed but spent a lot of time at punk shows where there were a lot of fights with boneheads. I also was dirt poor and the only way I could achieve my dream of flying was to serve in the military and make officer through the Mustang Program. After the Navy I started studying anthropology more (thanks to my mother being one) and learning that there is nothing that will redeem the nation, it's crimes too great, it's politicians totally unwilling to make amends for the actions of their forebarers. I studied alternative modern construction and sustainability techniques, I studied many forms of decision-making processes, and started developing projects people can use to enact direct action change for their and their community benefit. I also spend more than a little bit of my time educating in the BDSM community and participating in mutual aid projects and protests. I grew very disgruntled with protesting because where I have been it wasn't used to the effect I would have liked to see, and the organizers of those protests were more interested in getting people put in jail to make a statement rather than do anything meaningful. During Covid, I dropped out of capitalism entirely to dedicate my life to building sustainable housing collectives for people to help and educate. (edited)
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I'm happy to share screenshots with everyone if you wanna go that route Woj. I would say it's been too long, but in truth, it really hasn't been long enough.
WojtektheBear 4/10/2023 8:08 PM
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I would really just stop dude. Nothing has happened that can’t be forgotten (unless I scroll back and find abusive language, that will be a problem).
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Can we PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, END THIS?
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@AlexanderthePrettyGood I’m not checking vc but I recommend you think very carefully about how unpleasant you are being to people who are supposed to be your comrades
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/10/2023 8:09 PM
I'm actually not even speaking in VC right now, and when I was, we were cracking jokes and having a good time. Not sure what you're talking about.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
I'm actually not even speaking in VC right now, and when I was, we were cracking jokes and having a good time. Not sure what you're talking about.
WojtektheBear 4/10/2023 8:10 PM
Good. I wasn’t sure if you were also arguing with people there. Carry on.
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I was a Quartermaster who left the Navy with an honorable medical discharge after 3 years during which I participated in VBSS team boarding actions during the Iraq Embargo Blockade (Operation Iron Siren + Operation Southern Watch), during those boarding actions I was either topside security or shotgunner in two man sweep teams. After that I spent some time driving small craft earning my Coxswain pin in addition to my already attained Enlisted Surface Warfare pin. I saw combat 3 times, once was something I regret, the second was defensive and I am still horrified by, and the third left me with multiple disabilities. Prior to my service I was a punk and anthro-nerd, who still believed the US could be redeemed but spent a lot of time at punk shows where there were a lot of fights with boneheads. I also was dirt poor and the only way I could achieve my dream of flying was to serve in the military and make officer through the Mustang Program. After the Navy I started studying anthropology more (thanks to my mother being one) and learning that there is nothing that will redeem the nation, it's crimes too great, it's politicians totally unwilling to make amends for the actions of their forebarers. I studied alternative modern construction and sustainability techniques, I studied many forms of decision-making processes, and started developing projects people can use to enact direct action change for their and their community benefit. I also spend more than a little bit of my time educating in the BDSM community and participating in mutual aid projects and protests. I grew very disgruntled with protesting because where I have been it wasn't used to the effect I would have liked to see, and the organizers of those protests were more interested in getting people put in jail to make a statement rather than do anything meaningful. During Covid, I dropped out of capitalism entirely to dedicate my life to building sustainable housing collectives for people to help and educate. (edited)
Id really love a job with a real purpose behind it if you ever find yourself hiring.
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Or however you go about it. I just don't want to sit on the couch and do nothing anymore.
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Id really love a job with a real purpose behind it if you ever find yourself hiring.
I feel ya, sadly it's all non-profit, I still have to work a job to keep us in an RV spot for the time being. But I'm making connections locally and even starting to organize a workforce housing union where I am.
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Hmm.
10:15 PM
I seen a guy on tiktok who wanted to do something similar.
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I seen a guy on tiktok who wanted to do something similar.
If you can find him again, I'd be interested to know if it's someone I already am in contact with or not. There are more than a few of us doing similar things, and many are at least friendly to the others. I don't want to pioneer something, I want to inspire others to do what I do but better, do it themselves, find better ways to do the things, share them inspire more. Every 20 people living sustainably is 400K or more a year out of the hands of capitalists. It adds up quick.
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But he already has the company but he wants to build directly for people affordably
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So that might help.
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I'll look here in a bit. I'm grabbing food atm
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But he already has the company but he wants to build directly for people affordably
Yeah I have a few fully fledged business plans to do that through a capitalist structure. I would much rather do it through mutual aid however so I don't gatekeep people who don't have the cash to buy in.
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Co-op moment
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Co-op moment
That's one of the business plans... it even has a method for people without financial equity to earn their equity through effort. But it still takes some financial equity to make happen (~250k) and I had a backer to get it off the ground in 2020, but his dad got cancer right before we got to the site to begin work.
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Another business plan I did the numbers for is a 3D home printing business. More money up front, but ~10 weeks of work would provide income for everyone involved and pay the startup loan... leaving ~40 weeks to build ~400,000 square feet of living space pro-bono.
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Black Magic 4/10/2023 11:01 PM
Got docs?
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If you can find him again, I'd be interested to know if it's someone I already am in contact with or not. There are more than a few of us doing similar things, and many are at least friendly to the others. I don't want to pioneer something, I want to inspire others to do what I do but better, do it themselves, find better ways to do the things, share them inspire more. Every 20 people living sustainably is 400K or more a year out of the hands of capitalists. It adds up quick.
How did you start out?
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With self sufficient living and such
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Got docs?
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/11/2023 9:12 AM
I'd be curious to see this as well.
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MisterStompy 4/11/2023 9:27 AM
It turns out the Nashville shooter didn't have a manifesto, just a tierlist of other school shooters and bizarre esoteric rants. https://twitter.com/AriDrennen/status/1645497379796262946
It was incredibly irresponsible for Nashville police to tease the existence of a "manifesto" from the covenant school shooter only to reveal later that what they actually had amounted to disorganized ramblings about other mass murderers https://t.co/blLRmkm8B9
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And here I am utterly shocked that the person who shot children was incredibly unstable.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/11/2023 9:43 AM
okay what the fuck
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fascists are posting baby photos on twitter
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of themselves
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It turns out the Nashville shooter didn't have a manifesto, just a tierlist of other school shooters and bizarre esoteric rants. https://twitter.com/AriDrennen/status/1645497379796262946
floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/11/2023 9:43 AM
the cops lied? who’d ever expect that!
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How did you start out?
In a broken down barely water tight 1980s RV that we had to ditch because there was no way to keep it warm when temps went to neg20. But seriously. We had been planning it for months, we were going to be evicted (foreclosure) because the job I could get during Covid was slowly leaving us behind. The goal was to survive the winter homeless while I worked entirely on finding mutual aid support for the project, with the money I got from selling my motorcycle lift and snap-on box we bought 5 acres in Colorado (down payment), I also sold my Harley and was using that money to go through the RV we were being gifted to make it run again. Over the next 3 months following the foreclosure we just tried to survive the winter on 15amps of electricity gifted by a neighbor next to where the RV was parked. That winter around Feb temps dropped to neg 20 and we had to rely on friends to survive. After the thaw I had gotten the RV we were gifted to run, but that freeze had popped a freeze plug that I couldn't get to with the engine in the RV. Then a comrade agreed to put up half of what we needed to do phase 1 of construction and gifted us 2 grand to buy a running RV. We found someone who needed to get rid of an RV that was old, but ran. Packed everything we could and started the drive across Kansas and Eastern CO. 5 flat tires and a month later with only 200 cash left we climbed the mountain with the RV barely managing 5mph most of the climb. We layed over at a property not terribly far from Tenacious Unicorn Ranch till things warmed up up here with the intention of heading down to the property. During that 2 months that comrade who was going to put up the cash found out his father had cancer, so he had to put his spare money towards his dad's treatment. We lost the property due to lack of being able to make the mortgage payments. And put the project on hold while we regrouped and I took a job for a local business owner that I became friends with.
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Note on the foreclosure. The moratorium on evictions and foreclosures did not apply to owner financed mortgages, so we had no help there to prevent us from losing our home. When I was budgeting out after getting settled into my Covid job I found that job was shorting me about 300 a paycheck which had put us in an unstable position financially, I resolved that with the company but they informed me that they were going with the rule that caused them to short me in the first place and I could take it or leave it. So we had about 2 months knowing that foreclosure was coming, and then 3 months of the foreclosure process. A slow march towards inevitable homelessness. Partly due to the fact that a friend who was living with us kept losing his jobs and I was having to cover his portion of the bills. That's when I decided I didn't want to make any motherfucker more wealthy anymore, and started working hard to put together what would become the Unbroken Circle Ranch project, with the goal of giving people with PTSD or escaping domestic violence a free place to call their community, live sustainably and without fear of ever being evicted. (edited)
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The first RV was not running when we were gifted it. As I was diagnosing it I found It needed a carb rebuild, all the vacuum hoses replaced, the mechanical fuel pump replaced, a fuel cell with a new fuel line and inline pump installed to bypass the chassis electric fuel pump and tank. I didn't get all that done before the first hard cold snap... and didn't know that the radiator had been filled with straight water so the 50/50 I used to top it off and lack of being able to run the engine long enough to cycle the coolant to distribute the antifreeze caused a pocket of pure water to blow the freeze plug. I can't tell you how horrible that day was when I got the engine running smoothly, only to step out of the coach to inspect underneath and found a steady stream of coolant draining out of the engine block.
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It was for the best in the long run, we found a super reliable old RV with that 2k (though it had 6 dry rotten tires and had basically been a cat litter box for a decade... seriously the internal battery compartment had a half inch thick layer of partially congealed cat piss, and we spent two full days with a rented carpet cleaner cleaning the carpet). And we lived in that for all of 2021 and most of 2022. I sold that to a single father who needed shelter for himself and his daughter last summer for a little less than we paid for it, and we got the 5th wheel we're in now. (edited)
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With a small but growing network of local allies and friends we've developed since we've been up here, we've had a chance to regroup finally.
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With self sufficient living and such
So that was the story on how it came to be. When we're off grid (boondocking), we're on a 400W solar system with ~160AH of usable Lead Acid Deep Cycle battery storage. We use about 70 Gallons of fresh water a week. And hauled our black tank waste to a nearby RV park to dispose of it while we topped off a 250gal fresh water transport tote. The solar system gave us enough power to use laptops and charge phones and once a day use the microwave and electric kettle. We were sharing space on some land with a friend doing the same as us, boondocking in an RV, so we got about two weeks of water between us each trip, and our shit tank tote needed to be emptied every month.
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Food was/is nearly all from foodstamps. The RV had a 70lb propane tank, it took a year to go through it because the furnace didn't work in the RV. Our 5th wheel has 2 30lb tanks, but a working furnace... which certainly helped us survive this past winter. I did end up taking full time work, up here, but refused to work for corporations. So we're back on a decent financial footing and the job is for a friend... and he runs his business more in line with how I'd run an auto shop and similar to how I did run my motorcycle shop... he pays salary, and there is no rushing... do the work right even if it takes you longer than book hours. And salary goes up in line with the amount of completed hours you do consistently.
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Got docs?
Was that for me? My wife's computer in storage has the full plans, but I can outline them, the numbers would just be estimates from memory. (Though I always estimate pessimistically.) Which would you like to know more about? The egalitarian co-living community? The co-op owned RV park? The 3D house printing business? The cooperative auto shop? The nomadic excavation collective? The urban community home renovation and gifting project? The urban cooperative grocery delivery service? (edited)
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/11/2023 10:53 AM
That's convenient.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
That's convenient.
Still trying to pick fights I see. Even after I asked you to stop engaging with me. Even after a moderator told you to stop?
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/11/2023 10:57 AM
Asking you to stop replying to me, that's harassment.
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Just think it's strange some people here never have the ability to back up what they say with any real evidence, despite claiming to have so much going on.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
Just think it's strange some people here never have the ability to back up what they say with any real evidence, despite claiming to have so much going on.
WojtektheBear 4/11/2023 11:04 AM
What are you talking about
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/11/2023 11:05 AM
I think that's self-evident Woj, please stop replying to me.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
I think that's self-evident Woj, please stop replying to me.
WojtektheBear 4/11/2023 11:07 AM
As long as you give Spinner and the rules the respect they deserve you won’t hear from me. Do not play victim here.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/11/2023 11:07 AM
I asked you to stop replying to me, please respect that.
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Find it especially strange that we're supposed to assume everyone here is entirely above board, there are absolutely no fascists or cops here, and if you ever question anyone's credibility or statements, you get shouted down by a specific admin.
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Very strange indeed.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/11/2023 11:09 AM
I find it even more strange how you seem to come here for the sole purpose of antagonism.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
I find it even more strange how you seem to come here for the sole purpose of antagonism.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/11/2023 11:10 AM
I'm easily antagonized, I readily admit this.
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Find it especially strange that we're supposed to assume everyone here is entirely above board, there are absolutely no fascists or cops here, and if you ever question anyone's credibility or statements, you get shouted down by a specific admin.
WojtektheBear 4/11/2023 11:10 AM
Really man? If you had specific concerns you would share them with an admin discretely rather than publicly being a nuisance. You don’t have the right to not be replied to on this server. I’m happy to not interact with you provided you don’t give me a reason to.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
I find it even more strange how you seem to come here for the sole purpose of antagonism.
I find it strange that people who make themselves a "victim" seem to always be the one on the attack.
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I find it strange that people who make themselves a "victim" seem to always be the one on the attack.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/11/2023 11:11 AM
All I said was your lack of evidence is very convenient, if not downright strange.
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WojtektheBear
Really man? If you had specific concerns you would share them with an admin discretely rather than publicly being a nuisance. You don’t have the right to not be replied to on this server. I’m happy to not interact with you provided you don’t give me a reason to.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/11/2023 11:11 AM
I have. Nothing was done.
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Which is also very strange.
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Wow now we're into the subtle accusations that the entire discord is an Op.
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WojtektheBear 4/11/2023 11:12 AM
Obviously there are probably fash and others here, it’s a public server and we don’t have the ability to vet every person who comes in. This is why flinging accusations publicly is damaging and not correct
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That escalated quickly.
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WojtektheBear
Obviously there are probably fash and others here, it’s a public server and we don’t have the ability to vet every person who comes in. This is why flinging accusations publicly is damaging and not correct
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/11/2023 11:13 AM
Thanks for clarifying that there are definitely pigs among us here.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
Thanks for clarifying that there are definitely pigs among us here.
WojtektheBear 4/11/2023 11:13 AM
Welcome to the internet buttercup
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If you’re so sussed you’re welcome to leave
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/11/2023 11:14 AM
Everyone please take note accordingly, and make sure to be safe and secure even on these servers. They readily admit they're not vetting everyone.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/11/2023 11:14 AM
Yeah no shit sherlock
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We can’t do a damn FBI background check and give people a security clearance
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Yeah no shit sherlock
But we can and have given individuals tools they can use to vet people locally.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
Everyone please take note accordingly, and make sure to be safe and secure even on these servers. They readily admit they're not vetting everyone.
WojtektheBear 4/11/2023 11:15 AM
We have an introductions page people are required to fill out and regularly purge inactives. We do what we can realistically do
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But we can and have given individuals tools they can use to vet people locally.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/11/2023 11:15 AM
Exactly
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/11/2023 11:15 AM
Background checks are actually very cheap and easily done, less than $10/pop.
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But we can and have given individuals tools they can use to vet people locally.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/11/2023 11:15 AM
Such as?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/11/2023 11:15 AM
facepalm
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facepalm
IKR?
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/11/2023 11:16 AM
So let me get this straight. We know fascists are here among us, we're supposed to be cool with it, and never question anyone's credibility ever?
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Background checks are actually very cheap and easily done, less than $10/pop.
WojtektheBear 4/11/2023 11:16 AM
It is not reasonable to spend $6000 on a volunteer discord server where everyone is pseudo anonymous
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Absolutely no one is making you stay here dude
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/11/2023 11:17 AM
Just answer the question Admin.
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So let me get this straight. We know fascists are here among us, we're supposed to be cool with it, and never question anyone's credibility ever?
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It is not reasonable to spend $6000 on a volunteer discord server where everyone is pseudo anonymous
Apparently he doesn't understand that this discord isn't where AIF operates, it operates at the personal and local level, because there is no central authority.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
So let me get this straight. We know fascists are here among us, we're supposed to be cool with it, and never question anyone's credibility ever?
WojtektheBear 4/11/2023 11:19 AM
No one said you’re not allowed to. I said publicly making accusations isn’t helpful. Though you’re implication that the server is swarming with fascists is unreasonable
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No one said you’re not allowed to. I said publicly making accusations isn’t helpful. Though you’re implication that the server is swarming with fascists is unreasonable
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/11/2023 11:20 AM
I did not make a single accusation. I said it's convenient to not be able to supply any actual evidence.
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@knuckles where's that meme you were posting?
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/11/2023 11:20 AM
I never said the server was swarming with fascists. Though I would wonder if the likely perpetrators were power users who were here constantly.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
I never said the server was swarming with fascists. Though I would wonder if the likely perpetrators were power users who were here constantly.
WojtektheBear 4/11/2023 11:21 AM
I mean how is this not public speculation man?
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WojtektheBear
So you’re making an assumption and airing it publicly. A distinction without a difference. Please refrain from that type of talk unless you have actual evidence.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/11/2023 11:22 AM
You asked us to refrain from this type of talk yesterday, and now saying it's allowed. Wondering which is it? Is it allowed or not allowed?
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I mean how is this not public speculation man?
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/11/2023 11:22 AM
It's more fostering discussion for folks here to think about.
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"I'm not accusing anyone." Goes on to accuse people. This is some impressive stuff.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/11/2023 11:23 AM
i’m gonna go cook some popcorn
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
You asked us to refrain from this type of talk yesterday, and now saying it's allowed. Wondering which is it? Is it allowed or not allowed?
WojtektheBear 4/11/2023 11:23 AM
*with discretion in private with mods. This isn’t complicated
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
i’m gonna go cook some popcorn
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/11/2023 11:23 AM
butter it up
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WojtektheBear
*with discretion in private with mods. This isn’t complicated
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/11/2023 11:24 AM
It is when you leave things out, contradict yourself, and are not clear with what unwritten rules you decide to selectively enforce.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
i’m gonna go cook some popcorn
I think I'm gonna go with a croissant.
11:24 AM
Oh hey more direct accusations of abuse of authority by a mod.
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Major escalation on the Armenia-Azerbaijan border today, near the start of the road from Armenia to Karabakh. KIAs reported on both sides, as well as ominous implications of more fighting to come. Details still emerging.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood
It is when you leave things out, contradict yourself, and are not clear with what unwritten rules you decide to selectively enforce.
WojtektheBear 4/11/2023 11:25 AM
I literally didn’t scroll up. I specifically said you can bring this up to us in prívate and that’s obviously what’s bestz But if you want. We will very specifically add this to the rules and vigorously enforce.
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@floppunism [BOI, ID] So far we've got, Woj is abusing his authority, all the mods are enabling fascist infiltration, I'm a fed or fash infiltrator, and it's his responsibility to challenge everyone. Am I missing anything?
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I literally didn’t scroll up. I specifically said you can bring this up to us in prívate and that’s obviously what’s bestz But if you want. We will very specifically add this to the rules and vigorously enforce.
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/11/2023 11:26 AM
Why expect an Admin to do their due diligence right? Well thanks for clarifying pal.
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@floppunism [BOI, ID] So far we've got, Woj is abusing his authority, all the mods are enabling fascist infiltration, I'm a fed or fash infiltrator, and it's his responsibility to challenge everyone. Am I missing anything?
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/11/2023 11:27 AM
Just the point.
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And now admitting he's made those assertions after denying he's made the assertions.
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AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/11/2023 11:28 AM
I'm merely ignoring your disingenuous mischaracterizations of my words.
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But please keep piling onto me, you got an Admin on your side after all.
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And now denying he's made the assertions again.
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Why expect an Admin to do their due diligence right? Well thanks for clarifying pal.
WojtektheBear 4/11/2023 11:28 AM
You don’t know what you’re talking about whic is why I am going to ignore this. Refrain from antagonizing other users or you will hear from me again today
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@floppunism [BOI, ID] So far we've got, Woj is abusing his authority, all the mods are enabling fascist infiltration, I'm a fed or fash infiltrator, and it's his responsibility to challenge everyone. Am I missing anything?
floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/11/2023 11:29 AM
oh, you have to provide evidence of your incredibly detailed stories being true even though he admitted in my DMs yesterday that it’d be unreasonable to get that
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You don’t know what you’re talking about whic is why I am going to ignore this. Refrain from antagonizing other users or you will hear from me again today
AlexanderthePrettyGood 4/11/2023 11:29 AM
oh nooo is daddy admin gonna spank me?
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
oh, you have to provide evidence of your incredibly detailed stories being true even though he admitted in my DMs yesterday that it’d be unreasonable to get that
Oh that's right.
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are we in a "antagonizing people for the sake of it" competition??
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are we in a "antagonizing people for the sake of it" competition??
Nope. Just not allowing a bully to run rampant over people.
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WojtektheBear 4/11/2023 11:31 AM
He’s already been timed out for a day, no one interact with him
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Nope. Just not allowing a bully to run rampant over people.
I didn't say it was you lol
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I didn't say it was you lol
Fair.
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He’s already been timed out for a day, no one interact with him
smh my head admin power abuse
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(/s just in case)
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smh my head admin power abuse
Careful don't shake your head too hard, TBI is real.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/11/2023 11:33 AM
i’m not on the clock don’t get hurt
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I think that last "oh nooo is daddy admin gonna spank me?" was my favorite of the whole thing. As a former Leather Daddy... this amuses me to no end.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/11/2023 11:34 AM
LMAO
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i’m not on the clock don’t get hurt
Safety Third!
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DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 11:40 AM
Where do sanity and consent rank then?
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I've had to deal with ppl like that before, who just shit up channels and throw accusations left and right
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The admins of the server I was in dealt with it somewhat faster
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But people like that will NEVER fucking stop bothering the server they just shit up
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The other dude went on a personnal crusade to badmouth our group for YEARS
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Was in a video game, so not nearly as problematic, but still
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The admins of the server I was in dealt with it somewhat faster
WojtektheBear 4/11/2023 11:59 AM
We’re not on 24/7 and I was trying to give the guy a chance since he didn’t seem as combative to me yesterday but there is no way I can take any of that behavior in good faith. It’s pretty clear (and by his own admission) that Alex is easily antagonized. So he’s either emotionally immature (possibly neurodivergent). Or he himself is a RW troll. Either way he’s someone who does not belong here.
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DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 12:00 PM
The way he's acting is kinda wigging me out. Like... he's literally acting exactly the way that counterintelligence guys are taught to act when they're undercover. Obfuscate, play the "moderate", distract and redirect every discussion, and accuse those around you of being infiltrators.
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I highly doubt that he is counterintelligence tbc. It just makes me bristle when I see that sort of thing. But it's much more likely that he's just a troll. Trolls often adopt similar patterns of behaviour to genuine feds inadvertently.
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We’re not on 24/7 and I was trying to give the guy a chance since he didn’t seem as combative to me yesterday but there is no way I can take any of that behavior in good faith. It’s pretty clear (and by his own admission) that Alex is easily antagonized. So he’s either emotionally immature (possibly neurodivergent). Or he himself is a RW troll. Either way he’s someone who does not belong here.
oh it wasn't an accusation at all, quite the opposite
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I command you for being able to bear it for so long
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I highly doubt that he is counterintelligence tbc. It just makes me bristle when I see that sort of thing. But it's much more likely that he's just a troll. Trolls often adopt similar patterns of behaviour to genuine feds inadvertently.
Auth-Coms do the same thing intentionally and unintentionally. Fucked up part is... narcissists do the same thing too, but unintentionally.
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MisterStompy 4/11/2023 12:06 PM
Nonbinary people are so fucking based they're going to destroy the UK https://twitter.com/KatyMontgomerie/status/1645722648792498179
A non-binary person from California is suing the UK government over our contradictory and broken gender recognition system In many cases it is illegal to provide false information. Ryan is legally non-binary in California, but the UK gov is making a mess https://t.co/vGicmmDnOa
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"THIS IS IDEOLOGICAL IMPERIALISM!" said the goddamned Brit
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"Red Guard" back before they had to disband often pulled this shit on servers, but they did it in a coordinated manner, with 1-2 open supporters, and 1-2 "impartial" supporters. (edited)
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"Red Guard" back before they had to disband often pulled this shit on servers, but they did it in a coordinated manner, with 1-2 open supporters, and 1-2 "impartial" supporters. (edited)
MisterStompy 4/11/2023 12:07 PM
I'm assuming the online Red Guard were three times as cringe as the irl ones
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Auth-Coms do the same thing intentionally and unintentionally. Fucked up part is... narcissists do the same thing too, but unintentionally.
WojtektheBear 4/11/2023 12:08 PM
See I legitimately lean toward narcissism or some other pathology
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It’s just not a normal way to interact
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I'm assuming the online Red Guard were three times as cringe as the irl ones
I don't know... brigade beating 70 year old DSA folks and then filming a manifesto speech is not quite as cringe as it gets... but it's worse than what you can do online.
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See I legitimately lean toward narcissism or some other pathology
The rapid shifts in what is reality was what had me leaning that way too.
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I don't know... brigade beating 70 year old DSA folks and then filming a manifesto speech is not quite as cringe as it gets... but it's worse than what you can do online.
MisterStompy 4/11/2023 12:10 PM
it definitely was cringe when those commie bastards thought they were hardasses for concussing a literal geriatric (edited)
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It’s just not a normal way to interact
My wife was raised by an alcoholic narcissist that I had the displeasure to have to deal with for years before my wife really decided to tackle the fact that she herself was becoming one and had to remove the abuser from her life.
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Auth-Coms do the same thing intentionally and unintentionally. Fucked up part is... narcissists do the same thing too, but unintentionally.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 12:13 PM
I think with AuthComs it's partly paranoia built up from a very long history of ML orgs getting infiltrated. Keep in mind, while Anarchists and Democratic Socialists definitely took some shit during the McCarthy and COINTELPRO years, ML's definitely got the brunt of it. I do however find it ironic that they're so damn dogmatic that they're reaction to that history is to become so paranoid rather than critiquing the methods of organization they use that make infiltration so fucking easy.
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It’s just not a normal way to interact
MisterStompy 4/11/2023 12:13 PM
authoritarianism attracts narcissists, all supports of totalitarian ideologies think they'll be the ones in control when the takeover happens
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I think with AuthComs it's partly paranoia built up from a very long history of ML orgs getting infiltrated. Keep in mind, while Anarchists and Democratic Socialists definitely took some shit during the McCarthy and COINTELPRO years, ML's definitely got the brunt of it. I do however find it ironic that they're so damn dogmatic that they're reaction to that history is to become so paranoid rather than critiquing the methods of organization they use that make infiltration so fucking easy.
Ironically none of the ML/MLMs doing this shit have ever experienced that infiltration themselves. The still around members of the BPP aren't pulling that shit... Ashanti Alston who went to jail because of it is now a pretty based as fuck Anarchist.
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MisterStompy 4/11/2023 12:16 PM
They don't get infiltrated for the same reason Hitler or Stalin's inner circles never got infiltrated, they're doing more than enough damage to their ideology without any outside help (edited)
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WojtektheBear 4/11/2023 12:16 PM
To be fair, I don’t think the guy was an ML, just behaved very poorly
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To be fair, I don’t think the guy was an ML, just behaved very poorly
Oh yeah no... even MLs have a more coherent ideology.
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They don't get infiltrated for the same reason Hitler or Stalin's inner circles never got infiltrated, they're doing more than enough damage to their ideology without any outside help (edited)
I think humint was just harder back then, formal introductions because of nearly life long knowledge of a person makes for very good vetting naturally.
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Like if you didn't know and work with someone directly for a decade, you didn't introduce them to those circles.
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We had deep cover agents in the USSR that stayed inactive for decades before finding ways up the chain.
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MisterStompy 4/11/2023 12:21 PM
Modern communist groups don't even need to be infiltrated by CIA, they just think everyone is a CIA agent so they don't get anything done
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Modern communist groups don't even need to be infiltrated by CIA, they just think everyone is a CIA agent so they don't get anything done
Or they don't give a fuck and they go the way of the Red Guard.
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And then end up in the Socialist Rifle Association.
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MisterStompy 4/11/2023 12:23 PM
I remember talking about beating up Nazis that would show up to metal shows and some guy would always chime in with "but did you beat up any communists?" Like yeah I would have probably but communists never leave the fucking house because they think grasshoppers are Homeland Security controlled drones
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Ironically none of the ML/MLMs doing this shit have ever experienced that infiltration themselves. The still around members of the BPP aren't pulling that shit... Ashanti Alston who went to jail because of it is now a pretty based as fuck Anarchist.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 12:24 PM
Yep. Lorenzo Kom'boa Ervin same thing. And I will give credit where it's due, MLM orgs across the world have engaged in enough self-crit over the years that they've adapted their organisation structures to be more difficult to infiltrate. Still not as difficult as Anarchist groups, but pretty damn difficult nonetheless. Of course, a lot of MLM orgs have also been self-criting to the point that they lean much more libertarian in general now than they used to. I've legit met some MLM's who are basically just anarchists in denial. (edited)
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Yep. Lorenzo Kom'boa Ervin same thing. And I will give credit where it's due, MLM orgs across the world have engaged in enough self-crit over the years that they've adapted their organisation structures to be more difficult to infiltrate. Still not as difficult as Anarchist groups, but pretty damn difficult nonetheless. Of course, a lot of MLM orgs have also been self-criting to the point that they lean much more libertarian in general now than they used to. I've legit met some MLM's who are basically just anarchists in denial. (edited)
MisterStompy 4/11/2023 12:25 PM
We've still got aftershocks of the second red scare so there's tons of people out there who are like democratic socialists or whatever, but they call themselves communists because far too many people legitimately think democratic socialism is the same thing as bolshevism
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Yep. Lorenzo Kom'boa Ervin same thing. And I will give credit where it's due, MLM orgs across the world have engaged in enough self-crit over the years that they've adapted their organisation structures to be more difficult to infiltrate. Still not as difficult as Anarchist groups, but pretty damn difficult nonetheless. Of course, a lot of MLM orgs have also been self-criting to the point that they lean much more libertarian in general now than they used to. I've legit met some MLM's who are basically just anarchists in denial. (edited)
I do always wonder how much of that is long term Coin ops. Because there are multiple tactics outlined in the manual... disruption is a big and easy one to do fast... but infiltration to modify ideology is also outlined.
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MisterStompy 4/11/2023 12:26 PM
Anyway closest I ever got to beating up a communist was the time a fucking Nazbol of all things showed up to some basement hardcore show, I thought my mind was gonna turn into ash talking to this goddamned maniac
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He mentioned something about race mixing because I was hitting on an Asian girl who showed up, then he said that we need working class unity for REAL WHITE AMERICANS and I just kinda stared at him in confusion before casually pushing him down some stairs and walking away
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Anyway closest I ever got to beating up a communist was the time a fucking Nazbol of all things showed up to some basement hardcore show, I thought my mind was gonna turn into ash talking to this goddamned maniac
I've never found one that was willing to back up their bullshit with fists.
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Much to my regret.
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MisterStompy 4/11/2023 12:28 PM
Well no he wasn't expecting me to get violent, he thought he was converting me because I didn't argue with him or anything
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Like he didn't realize I wasn't quiet because I was silently agreeing, I was speechless because I genuinely didn't understand what the fuck he was talking about (edited)
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Well no he wasn't expecting me to get violent, he thought he was converting me because I didn't argue with him or anything
No I get ya, I'm just saying when it came time for me to punch them they curled up like babies or ran away. And I just can't hit someone who's in a fetal crouched position.
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MisterStompy 4/11/2023 12:30 PM
Remember that scene from King of The Hill where Hank Hill goes to the christian metal concert?
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"You're not making fascism any better, you're just making communism worse."
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Remember that scene from King of The Hill where Hank Hill goes to the christian metal concert?
Not familiar with that one.
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But it sounds hilarious.
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I do always wonder how much of that is long term Coin ops. Because there are multiple tactics outlined in the manual... disruption is a big and easy one to do fast... but infiltration to modify ideology is also outlined.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 12:31 PM
Yeah, but it'd be kinda weird for CoIn ops to be pushing them in that direction though wouldn't it? Like I'd think the push would be more towards parliamentarianism and DemSoc type ideology (which you do see in a growing number of ML orgs in general nowadays tbf, though not as much with MLM), not towards an ideology and method of organization that's further left, more anti-state, more violent, more decentralised, more theory heavy, and much harder to infiltrate. Like that just seems like the opposite of the direction they'd want to push.
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Yeah, but it'd be kinda weird for CoIn ops to be pushing them in that direction though wouldn't it? Like I'd think the push would be more towards parliamentarianism and DemSoc type ideology (which you do see in a growing number of ML orgs in general nowadays tbf, though not as much with MLM), not towards an ideology and method of organization that's further left, more anti-state, more violent, more decentralised, more theory heavy, and much harder to infiltrate. Like that just seems like the opposite of the direction they'd want to push.
I think the most dedicated FBI agents who study anarchism understand that it's not actually about radical violent revolution anymore... they know that if shit hit the fan anarchists would absolutely organize to take advantage of it, but VERY few anarchists of any reputation at all are accellerationists like in the first part of last century.
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I think the most dedicated FBI agents who study anarchism understand that it's not actually about radical violent revolution anymore... they know that if shit hit the fan anarchists would absolutely organize to take advantage of it, but VERY few anarchists of any reputation at all are accellerationists like in the first part of last century.
MisterStompy 4/11/2023 12:34 PM
There was a leaked FBI report that said anarchists weren't a problem because they mostly just hornypost and never talk about blowing up banks anymore
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Like he didn't realize I wasn't quiet because I was silently agreeing, I was speechless because I genuinely didn't understand what the fuck he was talking about (edited)
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 12:34 PM
Bro I vibe with that so much. So often when I talk to right-wingers, especially fascists, they think they're such good debaters because they say shit and I go quiet afterwards, so they think I don't have a counterargument. In reality I'm just so baffled by the pure stupidity of what they just said that I don't even know where to start.
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There was a leaked FBI report that said anarchists weren't a problem because they mostly just hornypost and never talk about blowing up banks anymore
Yeah that was the main takeaway from that report, which I loved... because the preceeding two years or so there was a GIANT increase in anarchist camgirls/onlyfans/fansly producers.
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I just imagined that one or more of my wife's videos were bought by a Fed and smiled.
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Bro I vibe with that so much. So often when I talk to right-wingers, especially fascists, they think they're such good debaters because they say shit and I go quiet afterwards, so they think I don't have a counterargument. In reality I'm just so baffled by the pure stupidity of what they just said that I don't even know where to start.
Facts... deadass facts.
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MisterStompy 4/11/2023 12:37 PM
There's proobably an FBI fund dedicated specifically to buying anarchist fansly content
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There's proobably an FBI fund dedicated specifically to buying anarchist fansly content
I wouldn't doubt it. One of our comrades was literally putting out free vids of nude readings of Kropotkin and Goldman and hiding the hard core stuff behind the paywall. You know some of those subs were feds. (edited)
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MisterStompy 4/11/2023 12:39 PM
See I won't clown on anarchists for making onlyfans content because anarchists have generally been pro sexwork, historically communist regimes have definitely not
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See I won't clown on anarchists for making onlyfans content because anarchists have generally been pro sexwork, historically communist regimes have definitely not
Emma actually got hard core into it with Bakunin once though over sexual liberation though.
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Or maybe that was Kropotkin.
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Can't remember but she basically accused him of being anti-sexual liberation because his dick didn't work anymore.
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There was a leaked FBI report that said anarchists weren't a problem because they mostly just hornypost and never talk about blowing up banks anymore
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/11/2023 12:41 PM
Anarchists are really just all about theory and occasionally show up to stuff; good people, but they don’t do enough in my mind
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Can't remember but she basically accused him of being anti-sexual liberation because his dick didn't work anymore.
MisterStompy 4/11/2023 12:41 PM
lmao
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking
Anarchists are really just all about theory and occasionally show up to stuff; good people, but they don’t do enough in my mind
MisterStompy 4/11/2023 12:42 PM
When I was an anarchist I was like one of four people in the local scene that actually did shit irl
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Plus I studied history so I always just laughed when they said capitalism and fascism were the same
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Never was an ancap though they're just annoying
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When I was an anarchist I was like one of four people in the local scene that actually did shit irl
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/11/2023 12:43 PM
Yep; again, good ideas, but they oversimplify things too much, and they don’t do enough imo; like, you talk about mutal aid and shit, but like, why aren’t you doing it?
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Anarchists are really just all about theory and occasionally show up to stuff; good people, but they don’t do enough in my mind
Easy now... you are generalizing about a group of people, and the truth is there is a lot that happens that people don't see. Though I will admit I would rather see anarchists focusing on mutual aid that provides for more basic needs long term rather than focusing on the easy immediate needs efforts.
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Never was an ancap though they're just annoying
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/11/2023 12:43 PM
Literally everyone hates AnCaps
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Literally everyone hates AnCaps
The venn diagram of AnCaps and Incels is a circle. Even they hate themselves.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/11/2023 12:44 PM
AnCaps are what happens when Incels get into politics
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AnCaps are what happens when Incels get into politics
Or have their daddy start their first business for them.
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Or have their daddy start their first business for them.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/11/2023 12:45 PM
Why not both
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Why not both
Fair
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/11/2023 12:46 PM
True
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But like, seriously, when a 12,000 year old Catholic is doing more to alleviate the systemic struggles of the poor, you may want to re-evaluate your methods
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anarchists also make some pretty good music https://youtu.be/zorRzhEoNG0
Nice, they are using the Russian made Makhno miniseries footage. (edited)
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/11/2023 12:47 PM
I want to like anarchists, but y’all can be annoying
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I want to like anarchists, but y’all can be annoying
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I want to like anarchists, but y’all can be annoying
But for real though yeah, we can be.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/11/2023 12:49 PM
Not entirely but sometimes you do get a little intense and it can be off putting
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anarchists also make some pretty good music https://youtu.be/zorRzhEoNG0
Also this slaps.
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But for real though yeah, we can be.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/11/2023 12:49 PM
That’s the kind of self reflection I need to work on
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No I get ya, I'm just saying when it came time for me to punch them they curled up like babies or ran away. And I just can't hit someone who's in a fetal crouched position.
Fuck that I would.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/11/2023 12:50 PM
I think we as a movement need to adopt it more thoroughly, and especially myself
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Also, I’m gonna get real political now: Onions, great flavor, but there is no way to serve or prepare onions where their texture doesn’t suck ass
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There are a VAST number of accepted truths, that anarchists are just absolutely not on board with... and it's in our opinion the existance of those false truths that prevent people from making the leap to a more collective oriented mindset and thus a more egalitarian worldview.
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So we are vocal about those because we see them as inherently harmful to people.
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And that's often very annoying.
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Also, I’m gonna get real political now: Onions, great flavor, but there is no way to serve or prepare onions where their texture doesn’t suck ass
powdered.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/11/2023 12:52 PM
I consider that a spice, but true
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I think the most dedicated FBI agents who study anarchism understand that it's not actually about radical violent revolution anymore... they know that if shit hit the fan anarchists would absolutely organize to take advantage of it, but VERY few anarchists of any reputation at all are accellerationists like in the first part of last century.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 12:52 PM
Yeah, and nowadays "Post-Left Anarchism" is becoming more and more popular, at least in the US. Which is good on the one hand. I think Post-Leftist actually do have some really solid theory and good criticisms of how anarchists and the left more broadly have traditionally done things. But as far organisation goes... the only postie's whose ideas I have any respect for are the Insurrectionists and Nihilists. All the academia and post-structuralist inspired anarchists who literally wanna anarchism into a personal philosophy rather than a political theory and really do embody what Bookchin was referring to when he talked about "lifestylists" can all fuck off imo. I'm all for practicing an anarchist lifestyle, but that can't be all you do. Ironically a lot of the figures these people look up to like Renzo Novatore, Alfredo M Bonnano, and Luigi Galleani would probably beat the fuck out of them, call them "bourgeois fake egoists", and then steal their shit.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/11/2023 12:52 PM
I’m talking about making onion dishes
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Fuck that I would.
There is a time to run, and a time to fight, and a time to keep your mouth shut... tankies are incapable of the second or last.
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Food was/is nearly all from foodstamps. The RV had a 70lb propane tank, it took a year to go through it because the furnace didn't work in the RV. Our 5th wheel has 2 30lb tanks, but a working furnace... which certainly helped us survive this past winter. I did end up taking full time work, up here, but refused to work for corporations. So we're back on a decent financial footing and the job is for a friend... and he runs his business more in line with how I'd run an auto shop and similar to how I did run my motorcycle shop... he pays salary, and there is no rushing... do the work right even if it takes you longer than book hours. And salary goes up in line with the amount of completed hours you do consistently.
I'm on disability and would like to spend my time productively. Can I possibly come out and help this summer?
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I'm on disability and would like to spend my time productively. Can I possibly come out and help this summer?
Mind if I DM you?
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Can't remember but she basically accused him of being anti-sexual liberation because his dick didn't work anymore.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 12:56 PM
That was Kropotkin. He took it on the chin like a champ though. Cause what she said was "Maybe if you were still as sexually active as in your youth you would see why it's important.". According to her, he just smiled and said "Maybe", with a twinkle in his eye that told her that he was reminiscing internally about his own sexual escapades from his youth.
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Yeah, and nowadays "Post-Left Anarchism" is becoming more and more popular, at least in the US. Which is good on the one hand. I think Post-Leftist actually do have some really solid theory and good criticisms of how anarchists and the left more broadly have traditionally done things. But as far organisation goes... the only postie's whose ideas I have any respect for are the Insurrectionists and Nihilists. All the academia and post-structuralist inspired anarchists who literally wanna anarchism into a personal philosophy rather than a political theory and really do embody what Bookchin was referring to when he talked about "lifestylists" can all fuck off imo. I'm all for practicing an anarchist lifestyle, but that can't be all you do. Ironically a lot of the figures these people look up to like Renzo Novatore, Alfredo M Bonnano, and Luigi Galleani would probably beat the fuck out of them, call them "bourgeois fake egoists", and then steal their shit.
You probably aren't wrong. But the flaws in older traditional anarchism go deeper, and it largely stems from the original writers lack of understanding of indigenous cultures or egalitarianism.
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That was Kropotkin. He took it on the chin like a champ though. Cause what she said was "Maybe if you were still as sexually active as in your youth you would see why it's important.". According to her, he just smiled and said "Maybe", with a twinkle in his eye that told her that he was reminiscing internally about his own sexual escapades from his youth.
Thank you, I didn't want to look it up.
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@DevilTheAutopoet What we know now, that we didn't know then, is how human culture evolves, and what influences that evolution (especially in positive ways).
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We know now that the most effective and rapid lasting changes to culture are done through people directly experiencing a change gifted to them from outside, adopting it, and passing it on because it has value.
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I've had to deal with ppl like that before, who just shit up channels and throw accusations left and right
He strikes me as an op tbh. The instigating, gaslighting, sowing discord.
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By all means.
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He strikes me as an op tbh. The instigating, gaslighting, sowing discord.
Sadly the explanations for it can be way too numerous to know for sure.
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The way he's acting is kinda wigging me out. Like... he's literally acting exactly the way that counterintelligence guys are taught to act when they're undercover. Obfuscate, play the "moderate", distract and redirect every discussion, and accuse those around you of being infiltrators.
Thats what I thought but I didn't want to start shit.
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Sadly the explanations for it can be way too numerous to know for sure.
I agree which is why I didn't want to jump to conclusions.
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You probably aren't wrong. But the flaws in older traditional anarchism go deeper, and it largely stems from the original writers lack of understanding of indigenous cultures or egalitarianism.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 1:05 PM
Yep. And that's one of the things I do find very valuable in Post-Left theory, is the analysis of that sort of thing, especially from the Post-Civ camp (not AnPrims though, those guys are just racist ecofascists in denial) and figures like Graeber.
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Yep. And that's one of the things I do find very valuable in Post-Left theory, is the analysis of that sort of thing, especially from the Post-Civ camp (not AnPrims though, those guys are just racist ecofascists in denial) and figures like Graeber.
I don't really understand AnPrims. We can achieve a more homeostatic relationship with one another and the environment with technological advances than we can without.
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I don't really understand AnPrims. We can achieve a more homeostatic relationship with one another and the environment with technological advances than we can without.
MisterStompy 4/11/2023 1:10 PM
All I know is Anprims and Ecofascists are constantly fighting over who gets to claim the Unabomber as an ideologue and I've never seen people with optics that fucking bad
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I don't really understand AnPrims. We can achieve a more homeostatic relationship with one another and the environment with technological advances than we can without.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 1:10 PM
Yeah. I am personally more of Degrowth than a Green Growth person, but honestly within that divide the lines get pretty blurry and there's certainly a broad range of what falls into each. And I definitely think we can do Degrowth without doing "return to monke".
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All I know is Anprims and Ecofascists are constantly fighting over who gets to claim the Unabomber as an ideologue and I've never seen people with optics that fucking bad
Thankfully those don't run in the same circles as I do.
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Yeah. I am personally more of Degrowth than a Green Growth person, but honestly within that divide the lines get pretty blurry and there's certainly a broad range of what falls into each. And I definitely think we can do Degrowth without doing "return to monke".
Well degrowth on a population level is inevitable at this point. People are going to starve unless radical changes happen in the next 5-10 years.
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And neither AnPrims, eco-fascists, nor Post-Civs will have anything to do with it. That's ALL capitalism baby. (edited)
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All I know is Anprims and Ecofascists are constantly fighting over who gets to claim the Unabomber as an ideologue and I've never seen people with optics that fucking bad
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 1:12 PM
Ah yes. Let's all worship the guy who thought he could solve the climate crisis by assassinating individual scientists and engineers without doing anything to actually attack ecocidal infrastructure or systems.
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Ah yes. Let's all worship the guy who thought he could solve the climate crisis by assassinating individual scientists and engineers without doing anything to actually attack ecocidal infrastructure or systems.
Don't forget the ignorant of the circumstances Killdozer stans.
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What a waste of welding talent though.
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As far as Degrowth or Green Growth as economic ideas... In my opinion we're long past any benefit adopting either of those can do. It's kinda like Free Market Capitalism as an idea... sounds great on paper (if you ignore ALL the things it ignores to make possible)... but in practice the whole house of cards is going to come down before any viable change is going to be made through attempting to adopt it. (edited)
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I never did make my croissant @floppunism [BOI, ID]... you get your popcorn?
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And neither AnPrims, eco-fascists, nor Post-Civs will have anything to do with it. That's ALL capitalism baby. (edited)
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 1:25 PM
Yeah which is... concerning. In theory Degrowth efforts within the framework of Capitalism is possible in the same sort of way that Social Democracy is possible but... I don't see it happening. A) Because the countries that would need to do the most are also the most ideologically possessed against things like Degrowth, and B) Degrowth and Circular Economics attacks the very function and intent of capitalism in a much more fundamental way than Social Democracy does. Social Democracy doesn't tell companies that they need to massively scale back their profit margins and produce less. In fact it generally encourages more growth and profits so that there's more tax revenue to fund the social programs (and yes I'm aware that that's not really how government budgets work but I'm simplifying for the sake of brevity here). In contrast, Degrowth, even within the framework of Capitalism, would still by necessity require a massive scaling back of profits in favor of wages in conjunction with investment in capital saving, labor-using technology which would be more expensive with higher wages, and effectively the near elimination of entire industries through various infrastructure shifts.
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Yeah which is... concerning. In theory Degrowth efforts within the framework of Capitalism is possible in the same sort of way that Social Democracy is possible but... I don't see it happening. A) Because the countries that would need to do the most are also the most ideologically possessed against things like Degrowth, and B) Degrowth and Circular Economics attacks the very function and intent of capitalism in a much more fundamental way than Social Democracy does. Social Democracy doesn't tell companies that they need to massively scale back their profit margins and produce less. In fact it generally encourages more growth and profits so that there's more tax revenue to fund the social programs (and yes I'm aware that that's not really how government budgets work but I'm simplifying for the sake of brevity here). In contrast, Degrowth, even within the framework of Capitalism, would still by necessity require a massive scaling back of profits in favor of wages in conjunction with investment in capital saving, labor-using technology which would be more expensive with higher wages, and effectively the near elimination of entire industries through various infrastructure shifts.
Yup and the people with authority to make those changes would have to effectively shoot themselves in the foot to do so. I think the capitalism post-mortem will show a lot of things, but I'll bet the straw that really broke the financial camel's back will be AirBnB and VRBO.
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I don't really understand AnPrims. We can achieve a more homeostatic relationship with one another and the environment with technological advances than we can without.
I believe that abandonning tech is just gonna cause a lot of human suffering for purely ideological reasons
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think of all the medical technologies we need to help cure a lot of people
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/11/2023 1:28 PM
hell, without modern technology i’d be fundamentally disabled. With it however, I lead a perfectly able life
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how machines have made our work so much easier, allowing us to pursue other activities (except that our society doesnt like it so we do bullshit jobs for the sake of it)
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
hell, without modern technology i’d be fundamentally disabled. With it however, I lead a perfectly able life
same, I can't see unblurry past 5cm
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I never did make my croissant @floppunism [BOI, ID]... you get your popcorn?
floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/11/2023 1:28 PM
unfortunately, no
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and there are people with far worse disabilities than me
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same, I can't see unblurry past 5cm
floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/11/2023 1:28 PM
yep, same
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its not things you can cure with a few sticks
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information technologies have also allowed us to share knowledge and thoughts regardless of distance, imo it's a great thing when correctly used
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double edged sword though I recon
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For centuries residential and commercial real estate was isolated from one another. Home prices rose in accordance with other home sales. AirBnB and VRBO have brought profit margins into residential home prices, without introducing taxes related to businesses into their communities. So a home is no longer valued at what the nearest similar home sold for, it's valued at the total revenue it can generate over 7 years as an AirBnB.
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unfortunately, no
Damnit.
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I believe that abandonning tech is just gonna cause a lot of human suffering for purely ideological reasons
100% agree. What you are talking about is ableism among leftists... and yeah it can get pretty fucked.
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people with a hard on for anarcho primitivism seem to forget that european forests almost disappeared after the middle ages too
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and we have faaaaar more people now
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people with a hard on for anarcho primitivism seem to forget that european forests almost disappeared after the middle ages too
Not wrong. In fact the reason the US has so many national parks is because we saw the effects of loss of those natural environments in Europe.
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unless they want to reduce human population by 7 orders of magnitudes, our way of live just requires too much energy to be sustainable without some form of industrial technologies
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unless they want to reduce human population by 7 orders of magnitudes, our way of live just requires too much energy to be sustainable without some form of industrial technologies
We probably are heading for that anyway with lack of food production looming. Conservative estimates are a 50% decrease in world population by 2050.
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so we can either genocide people let them starve continue as we do and ruin the planet or push on for other technologies that can produce the energy with minimal environmental impact
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Imagine 4 billion people dying of starvation worldwide.
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We probably are heading for that anyway with lack of food production looming. Conservative estimates are a 50% decrease in world population by 2050.
2100 maybe
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2050 is way too soon
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things are bad but not "billions about to starve within 2 decades" bad
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2050 is way too soon
2030 is when we start seeing dramatic crop losses world wide.
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And that's from US NOAA's most optimistic reports.
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yield losses
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Both decline in yield and entire crop losses in many places.
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the amazon rainforest will keep being destroyed to compensate for quite some more time, to just give one place as an exemple
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the amazon rainforest will keep being destroyed to compensate for quite some more time, to just give one place as an exemple
Which will only increase the speed at which we die.
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I'm not saying it's a good thing
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ironically enough, tropical rainforest soil is one of the least productive out there
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despite having massive amounts of biodiversity on top of it
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It's not gonna take 50% of the population starving to fuck our shit up though. People lose their minds out of fear of starving.
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its one of the main reasons why subtropical countries struggle so much
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its one of the main reasons why subtropical countries struggle so much
And not every region is like that of Mexico City where nutrients built up a storage over millenia.
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without an agricultural basis, other societies just didn't develop the same way that, say, china, northern india, japan, mdidle eastern crescent, or europe developped
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north america being the sole exception
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I just want to give people a place they can live and grow food and care about one another and protect one another before shit hits the fan. Maybe if people see the value in that, they will copy and improve on it. Is that too much to ask? (edited)
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DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 1:43 PM
@Spinner What are your thoughts on the Solarpunk vs Collapsitarian divide? I can kinda guess based on stuff you've said, but I'm curious about specifics.
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Brown earth is a type of soil. Brown earths are mostly located between 35° and 55° north of the Equator. The largest expanses cover western and central Europe, large areas of western and trans-Uralian Russia, the east coast of America and eastern Asia. Here, areas of brown earth soil types are found particularly in Japan, Korea, China, eastern A...
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this is what I'm talking about but I can't quite find the maps I had in my pedology classes
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but anyway the point was that most imperialist countries came out from this type of land
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I just thing it's an interesting thing to take into account
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@Spinner What are your thoughts on the Solarpunk vs Collapsitarian divide? I can kinda guess based on stuff you've said, but I'm curious about specifics.
I never heard of Collapsitarian so I had to look it up. I kinda feel from what I've seen that Collapsitarian is not really interested in what the causes of collapse are, just that it's both desirable and inevitable that it happens. Almost Posadist but without the nuclear accelerationism and aliens. I would FAR rather we use the resources we have at our disposal, particularly renewable ones (especially hemp and mycelia based since they are both VERY rapid growth renewables) to prevent a collapse of humanity. I do think the economic system of capitalism will collapse regardless, we're overdue for it, we're overburdened from it, and all the distractions in the world won't help when people no longer can be distracted by them. Sports is a distraction, but if you don't have a living room anymore to relax and watch the game in... you can't be distracted by it. And capitalism is rapidly increasing it's impoverishment of people to that point and beyond. Solarpunk is awesome. And maybe in another lifetime a couple hundred years from now we'll have reached it. (edited)
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The sad truth is from my perspective, we're actually on track to make advances that make solarpunk possible... but not fast enough. (edited)
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Personally I concern myself with what we can do now to inspire and manifest egalitarianism as much as we can. Rather than theories that rely on far off hopes and dreams.
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but anyway the point was that most imperialist countries came out from this type of land
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 1:56 PM
A lot of the imperialist countries were historically also wintery fucking hellscapes that humans were never really supposed to be able to live in in the first place. The sort of resources we rely on are more scarce in these areas, forcing people in these regions to rely on environmentally destructive practices such as monocropping, and also, as those practices create desertification, on exploiting other regions and extracting resources from there. Also, part of the reason they were able to do so is because war technology developed so much more rapidly in these regions. Why did it develop more rapidly? Because people in these regions were constantly warring with each other over resources. Basically, the insistence of some humans on leaving the Edenic equatorial and subtropical environments for the hellworld of the frozen north manifested in them becoming warlike barbarians who proceeded to take over the world, and then export their bullshit to the rest of the world, so that now we're all fucked.
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A lot of the imperialist countries were historically also wintery fucking hellscapes that humans were never really supposed to be able to live in in the first place. The sort of resources we rely on are more scarce in these areas, forcing people in these regions to rely on environmentally destructive practices such as monocropping, and also, as those practices create desertification, on exploiting other regions and extracting resources from there. Also, part of the reason they were able to do so is because war technology developed so much more rapidly in these regions. Why did it develop more rapidly? Because people in these regions were constantly warring with each other over resources. Basically, the insistence of some humans on leaving the Edenic equatorial and subtropical environments for the hellworld of the frozen north manifested in them becoming warlike barbarians who proceeded to take over the world, and then export their bullshit to the rest of the world, so that now we're all fucked.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 1:57 PM
Sorry, I feel like I turned into my grandpa there for a second. 😅
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If there is an enormous collapse and 90% of the population dies or more... I want to know that I had a part in giving at least a few people a chance to survive it. If there isn't a collapse, then that same effort might inspire others to do similar. Win win.
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A lot of the imperialist countries were historically also wintery fucking hellscapes that humans were never really supposed to be able to live in in the first place. The sort of resources we rely on are more scarce in these areas, forcing people in these regions to rely on environmentally destructive practices such as monocropping, and also, as those practices create desertification, on exploiting other regions and extracting resources from there. Also, part of the reason they were able to do so is because war technology developed so much more rapidly in these regions. Why did it develop more rapidly? Because people in these regions were constantly warring with each other over resources. Basically, the insistence of some humans on leaving the Edenic equatorial and subtropical environments for the hellworld of the frozen north manifested in them becoming warlike barbarians who proceeded to take over the world, and then export their bullshit to the rest of the world, so that now we're all fucked.
To be fair most of H.Sapien's existence was in a wintery hellscape.
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A lot of the imperialist countries were historically also wintery fucking hellscapes that humans were never really supposed to be able to live in in the first place. The sort of resources we rely on are more scarce in these areas, forcing people in these regions to rely on environmentally destructive practices such as monocropping, and also, as those practices create desertification, on exploiting other regions and extracting resources from there. Also, part of the reason they were able to do so is because war technology developed so much more rapidly in these regions. Why did it develop more rapidly? Because people in these regions were constantly warring with each other over resources. Basically, the insistence of some humans on leaving the Edenic equatorial and subtropical environments for the hellworld of the frozen north manifested in them becoming warlike barbarians who proceeded to take over the world, and then export their bullshit to the rest of the world, so that now we're all fucked.
wintery hellscapes?
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the only ones that might fit the bill are like russia and imperial sweden
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china, most of europe, midwest and japan are far from super cold regions
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wintery hellscapes?
Siberia, Northern Europe, Northern North America... all very large centers of populations for early man. The first imperialist conquest was from Siberian Aryan tribes conquering the Sub-Continent of India. That we know of. (edited)
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though it is true their start of imperialist expansion correlated with the little ice age
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for europe at least
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I never heard of Collapsitarian so I had to look it up. I kinda feel from what I've seen that Collapsitarian is not really interested in what the causes of collapse are, just that it's both desirable and inevitable that it happens. Almost Posadist but without the nuclear accelerationism and aliens. I would FAR rather we use the resources we have at our disposal, particularly renewable ones (especially hemp and mycelia based since they are both VERY rapid growth renewables) to prevent a collapse of humanity. I do think the economic system of capitalism will collapse regardless, we're overdue for it, we're overburdened from it, and all the distractions in the world won't help when people no longer can be distracted by them. Sports is a distraction, but if you don't have a living room anymore to relax and watch the game in... you can't be distracted by it. And capitalism is rapidly increasing it's impoverishment of people to that point and beyond. Solarpunk is awesome. And maybe in another lifetime a couple hundred years from now we'll have reached it. (edited)
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 2:00 PM
I would personally add algae to your list of great renewable resources for us to rely. Algae is one of the most woefully underutilized resources we have at our disposal imo.
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but for china, or even say the muslim conquest or the roman empire it was the opposite
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wintery hellscapes?
floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/11/2023 2:00 PM
Permanent human society only really existed in the last 10,000 years because we’re in an interglacial period
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I would personally add algae to your list of great renewable resources for us to rely. Algae is one of the most woefully underutilized resources we have at our disposal imo.
Totally fair. Also utterly disgusting.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/11/2023 2:01 PM
Homo sapiens was around for a few hundred thousand years before that in the midst of an ice age glacial period
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Permanent human society only really existed in the last 10,000 years because we’re in an interglacial period
ok but that's doesnt really correspond though
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/11/2023 2:01 PM
That was a wintery hellscope
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its unrelated to the topic of imperialist nations living on brown soil
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/11/2023 2:01 PM
sorry i missed the context
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I wouldn't really count early human migrations within imperialism debate
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its not a unified group of people trying to impose hegemony to vast swaths of land to serve them and exploit their ressources in a coordinated effort (edited)
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DevilTheAutopoet
Ah yes. Let's all worship the guy who thought he could solve the climate crisis by assassinating individual scientists and engineers without doing anything to actually attack ecocidal infrastructure or systems.
And he was a genius by most metrics. Its ridiculous
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/11/2023 2:03 PM
guy has cancer now
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it’s a deserving way to go out
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though it is true their start of imperialist expansion correlated with the little ice age
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 2:04 PM
Yeah. I should have been more clear in what I meant, but yeah these areas that have become the major imperialist powers all used to be much fucking colder and more hellish than they are now. Even places like Japan. A lot of times we think of the ancient samurai fighting in the middle of idyllic green springs amidst falling cherry blossoms, but in reality a lot of samurai battles were fought in knee deep fucking snow.
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japan is a lot bigger than people think lol
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I wouldnt want to spend winter in sapporo, i wouldnt want to spend summer in nagasaki
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:06 PM
I mean hell, Britain didn't even have agriculture before Rome
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Explain Rome though
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Italy's not a wintery hellscale @Spinner
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I mean hell, Britain didn't even have agriculture before Rome
what
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thats just no true
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:07 PM
Weren't the Pre-Roman tribes hunter-gatherers though?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/11/2023 2:07 PM
nope
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we went past hunter-gatherers surprisingly long ago
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Caesar even went to britain twice and had a few battles
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:08 PM
Oh, so Roman records were wrong
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no you just didnt read the right ones lol
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/11/2023 2:08 PM
roman records about barbarians need to be taken with a metric ton of salt
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ceasar gives good account on how he fought with some briton tribes
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/11/2023 2:08 PM
they wanted to downplay the barbarians as subhuman and primitive
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they even were very good at using chariots in combat
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Caesar even went to britain twice and had a few battles
TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:08 PM
Uh, that doesn't mean they have agriculture though. The Mongols weren't known for agriculture
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which was the bronze age superweapon, but they were quite behind the curve
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still, made a great use of it
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:09 PM
But I get it
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he made some deals with local kingdoms as well
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:09 PM
Thing is explain Rome's imperialistic urges, as Italy is generally not a wintery hellscape (edited)
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True. They have a ton of mountains but it's by and large not wintery
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even before rome there were greece, persia, babylon, egypt
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:11 PM
I mean even today, Italy has one of the largest agricultural sectors in Europe
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the po valley is very productive
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and one of the most contested places in the history of europe
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:11 PM
So, the Italian peninsula generally has very fetile soil
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so many times france and austria dunked it out there
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:12 PM
Even France has a lot of fertile soil
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so does germany
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:13 PM
How do you think France has such a famous culinary scene and wine industry?
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so does poland, so does ukraine, most of non-balkan europe really
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before relying on egypt, rome relied a lot on sicily too for food
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:13 PM
So, I don't understand French imperialism using Spinner's logic
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not spinner, devil I believe said it was the wintery places
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:14 PM
Oh still, it's not always true
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but the point is more broad than that, really, what you first need is an agricultural society
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:14 PM
And cold temperatures alone don't mean bad for agriculture
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north america truely is the only major exception, in that it had incredible soil yet no large sedentary powers rose
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indian tribes were strong but not in the same way by any stretch of the imagination
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on the american continents, the mayan, aztec and peruvian societies managed it though
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:15 PM
I mean look at the American Midwest, it really gets cold yet the Great Plains have some of the most fertile farm land on Earth
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egypt is extremely hot and yet it was the breadbasket of the mediterranean for centuries
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temperatures arent quite the thing
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It also was the source of water for a good chunk of the Mediterranean
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Weren't the Pre-Roman tribes hunter-gatherers though?
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 2:16 PM
Some were, but many certainly were not. Keep in mind, we're talking about the people that built stonehenge here. Not to say that hunter-gatherers don't build large structures, because that's certainly not necessarily the case, but stonehenge was also originally built in like 3100BC, so they had a lot of time to shift and develop from there as well. (edited)
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:16 PM
I mean the American Farm Belt is a huge reason why the Allies won WW2 (edited)
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Some were, but many certainly were not. Keep in mind, we're talking about the people that built stonehenge here. Not to say that hunter-gatherers don't build large structures, because that's certainly not necessarily the case, but stonehenge was also originally built in like 3100BC, so they had a lot of time to shift and develop from there as well. (edited)
TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:16 PM
I see
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but if you want to see as to why, for exemple, subsaharian africa never really rose to prominence (not to say no great society emerged there: ethiopia and ghana were fabulously rich) their agriculture is shit because subsharian soil is garbage
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the only way to use tropical soil is to burn the trees and grow crops on it, and after a few years you need to move on
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This water (the nile) is also in part WHY Eypt is such a dickweasel to its neighbors (to the point the one of them are building dams to especially fuck with them)
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:17 PM
Lend lease food aid is what kept the British, Free French, and Soviets from starving
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This water (the nile) is also in part WHY Eypt is such a dickweasel to its neighbors (to the point the one of them are building dams to especially fuck with them)
yeah there is a constant risk of war with ethiopia and sudan
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the only way to use tropical soil is to burn the trees and grow crops on it, and after a few years you need to move on
TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:18 PM
Thing is Hawaii doesn't have that problem
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Ethiopia is the one who's building the dam to basically put Egypt in a VERY BAD place
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:18 PM
Hawaii very much has a tropical climate, yet they don't have to resort to Slash and Burn
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Thing is Hawaii doesn't have that problem
once again you can develop societies on any type of terrain but hawaii never really became a world power, did it?
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:19 PM
Same with the region I call home, South Florida
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once again you can develop societies on any type of terrain but hawaii never really became a world power, did it?
TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:19 PM
No
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I mean the native tribes here in Florida did practice agriculture (edited)
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Well not the Tequesta
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One thing that does surprise me is why no pre European society developed into a powerhouse in the Mississippi River watershed
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@knuckles where's that meme you were posting?
Which one? The Jamiroquai one?
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:23 PM
Given just how fertile those lands are, and the amount of navigable waterway that is on the Mississippi
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Thing is explain Rome's imperialistic urges, as Italy is generally not a wintery hellscape (edited)
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 2:23 PM
So Italy and Greece are both interesting in that regard because both peninsulas, even during the little ice age, were fairly idyllic. But, it's also the case that both peninsulas didn't originally develop in the same way as the rest of Europe. Their styles of agriculture were very different and they mostly organized in very loose collections of city-states. I think that in both cases much of their drive towards imperialism was based on two factors. One was threats from external empires that wanted their land forcing them to centralize and militarize. The other was their slave systems. While it wasn't quite the same as the antebellum south, it is the case that when you have a caste system of that sort, whether based on ethnicity or debt or both, it kind of necessitates expansion by its very nature, as the protected class living the relative good life will inevitably grow faster than the segment of the populace slowly working themselves to death in the fields. Thus, more slaves are needed. Thus, invasions. (edited)
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:24 PM
I see
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knuckles
Which one? The Jamiroquai one?
Time has passed for it... but yeah that one.
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:26 PM
My opinion is that once the US bought the Louisiana Territory from France, it's rise as a power would have been inevitable whether the Westward expansion happened or not
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Are we all forgetting that the Sub-continent of India was conquered thousands of years before Rome was founded? The first imperialist conquests were Aryan (Siberian) and Persian.
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:27 PM
The Mississippi River watershed and the city of New Orleans are just too advantageous
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Especially all the fertile land in it
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Yeah lots of that happened this morning.
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I reread it all
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I'm on break at work
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:28 PM
So.. uh, am I necessarily wrong?
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So.. uh, am I necessarily wrong?
What are you referencing?
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north america truely is the only major exception, in that it had incredible soil yet no large sedentary powers rose
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 2:28 PM
Well... actually there is evidence that such sedentary powers did likely rise in North America, but that they were actually overthrown, and that much of the way that Indigenous groups organized thereafter was with the express intent of not allowing such powers to form again. Thus the extremely egalitarian social structure of the sedentary peoples in the north like the Haudenosaunee and Wendat, and the more nomadic living structures of the more socially authoritarian groups of the southeast, such as the Chatah and Chicksah.
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:29 PM
That the Louisiana Purchase made the US's rise into a great power inevitable
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Yeah idc about proof for personal stories I just wanted to know how you got started off and everything with off the grid living and that was comprehensive enough for me lol. I just want to figure out how to become more self sufficient and sustainable. Live in suburbs though. The first and only step I can really think of without leaving my house would be to get solar panels and grow my garden
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Already got it rototilled
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That the Louisiana Purchase made the US's rise into a great power inevitable
I might argue that it was inevitable that acquiring that territory by any means would happen. But I don't think anyone would disagree generally.
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Already got it rototilled
That's a start, if you want I can help develop sustainability with you regardless of what space you have available.
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north america truely is the only major exception, in that it had incredible soil yet no large sedentary powers rose
AvoidOblivion 4/11/2023 2:31 PM
I learned about why no major Native American tribes became incredibly powerful recently: it’s because their copper was too good. Copper in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan and that general area is very pure, and there were large deposits of it. Native Americans in the area began to use that copper around the same time, or potentially even earlier, than Europeans or Asians. What set them behind was their lack of using and developing stronger metals. The impurity of copper found in Eurasia meant the people living there eventually discovered new alloys and other metals, which led to more development and more progress. As the Native Americans did not discover other alloys, they never developed much further. My source: https://youtu.be/cpmMY_Rcbd8
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:32 PM
For reference, quite a few of the modern states that were part of the Louisiana Territory, are agricultural powerhouses, such as Kansas, Nebraska, and Iowa (edited)
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Not too mention parts of the modern Canadian province of Saskatchewan
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Which is the breadbasket of Canada
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we should reclaim those lands
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My opinion is that once the US bought the Louisiana Territory from France, it's rise as a power would have been inevitable whether the Westward expansion happened or not
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 2:37 PM
I could see that argument. Although I'd argue that by that point westward expansion was also somewhat inevitable anyway unless they abolished slavery much earlier.
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I learned about why no major Native American tribes became incredibly powerful recently: it’s because their copper was too good. Copper in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan and that general area is very pure, and there were large deposits of it. Native Americans in the area began to use that copper around the same time, or potentially even earlier, than Europeans or Asians. What set them behind was their lack of using and developing stronger metals. The impurity of copper found in Eurasia meant the people living there eventually discovered new alloys and other metals, which led to more development and more progress. As the Native Americans did not discover other alloys, they never developed much further. My source: https://youtu.be/cpmMY_Rcbd8
interesting
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I know fairly little about north american history, aside from a few things about the iroquois confederacy
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AvoidOblivion 4/11/2023 2:39 PM
I do too, to be honest. Very little of it is taught here.
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I know fairly little about north american history, aside from a few things about the iroquois confederacy
If those things are from Lewis Henry Morgan or his disciples, they are VERY wrong.
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it was a few years ago but iirc they do acknowledge that?
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AvoidOblivion 4/11/2023 2:41 PM
The memes are true: We are essentially taught that the Natives were here, the Europeans arrived, started to settle, and destroyed many Native tribes. Over recent years states have become less afraid of teaching the real history, and my American History teacher made sure we knew that the Europeans committed genocide while settling. The period between the arrival of Europeans and the start of the Revolutionary War is hardly talked about, though.
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i dont remember very well
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DevilTheAutopoet
I could see that argument. Although I'd argue that by that point westward expansion was also somewhat inevitable anyway unless they abolished slavery much earlier.
TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:41 PM
Perhaps,
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The memes are true: We are essentially taught that the Natives were here, the Europeans arrived, started to settle, and destroyed many Native tribes. Over recent years states have become less afraid of teaching the real history, and my American History teacher made sure we knew that the Europeans committed genocide while settling. The period between the arrival of Europeans and the start of the Revolutionary War is hardly talked about, though.
TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:41 PM
We were taught something similar
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That the natives were here first
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Mostly the Miccosukee
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AvoidOblivion 4/11/2023 2:42 PM
Recent evidence has claimed they have been here far longer than we thought. One claim stated the very first arrived 50k years ago.
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:42 PM
We even got to visit tribal lands belonging to the Miccosukee tribe
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AvoidOblivion 4/11/2023 2:43 PM
If you are interested in learning about the history of pre-Colonial Americas, I highly recommend Ancient Americas on Youtube. The videos are very well-made, very in-depth, and cover a wide variety of information.
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:43 PM
Had the civilization that built Cahokia survived, they probably would have become an incredibly powerful civilization in the Americas
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DevilTheAutopoet
I could see that argument. Although I'd argue that by that point westward expansion was also somewhat inevitable anyway unless they abolished slavery much earlier.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 2:44 PM
Actually, that's an interesting alt-history concept. Lousisiana purchase never happens. Slavery abolition happens much earlier because the inability to expand westward makes it almost completely inviable over time. Mexico retains much if not all of its territory from the days of the First Mexican Empire. The Trail of Tears doesn't happen because there's no territory to push the Five Tribes into. France technically maintains sovereignty over the Louisiana territory, but in practice much of it remains under indigenous control, at least for a while. You wanna talk about a fucking butterfly effect...
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:44 PM
Thing is France was going to sell it or get rid of it anyway
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I could also see the US taking it by force anyway
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:45 PM
Their debts from their Revolution made keeping the territory infeasible
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So France was faced with the prospect of selling it or losing it to Britain
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Thing is France was going to sell it or get rid of it anyway
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 2:47 PM
Yeah, they couldn't afford it. So if they US didn't buy it, then it probably would have either been Mexico or some privateers like Stephen F. Austin. Or they would've just left and let the natives have it. Or... they could have tried to make it viable by settling further north in the territory and basically do their own version of the Trail of Tears.
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:48 PM
Or the British would have seized it
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Remember at the time, Britain still saw France as an enemy
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Yeah, they couldn't afford it. So if they US didn't buy it, then it probably would have either been Mexico or some privateers like Stephen F. Austin. Or they would've just left and let the natives have it. Or... they could have tried to make it viable by settling further north in the territory and basically do their own version of the Trail of Tears.
Gods fucking help whoever is in the hellscape timeline where Steven F Austin bought it.
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Or the British would have seized it
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 2:50 PM
I don't think that's as likely just because by that point I don't think Britain would've been particularly gunning for another war with France. They were still kinda licking their wounds from the last... like... six. (edited)
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:50 PM
Issue was France wouldn't have been able to defend the territory
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I don't think that's as likely just because by that point I don't think Britain would've been particularly gunning for another war with France. They were still kinda licking their wounds from the last... like... six. (edited)
And that would have almost certainly started another war with the US.
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Which was inevitable, but it wouldn't have been settled so quickly had there been territory occupied to the west. (edited)
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:52 PM
Which could have resulted in the British losing Canada and their remaining North American holdings earlier then in OTL
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Expansionism was still very much on the US' mins by then
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Which could have resulted in the British losing Canada and their remaining North American holdings earlier then in OTL
Very true, the US didn't really want the war of 1812, but if there was MORE british on the continent and surrounding the US... it would have been an all or nothing war.
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And that would have almost certainly started another war with the US.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 2:53 PM
Maybe. Would've depended on who was in office at the time. The different political parties in the US at that time had very different views on what US relations with France should be like. The Anti-Federalists were generally on good terms with France. The Federalists... not so much. And subsequently with the Whigs and Democrats respectively.
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:54 PM
Or even Bermuda
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Gods fucking help whoever is in the hellscape timeline where Steven F Austin bought it.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 2:55 PM
Yeah, I would prefer not to think about that timeline because... that would get so fucked up so goddamn fast.
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Maybe. Would've depended on who was in office at the time. The different political parties in the US at that time had very different views on what US relations with France should be like. The Anti-Federalists were generally on good terms with France. The Federalists... not so much. And subsequently with the Whigs and Democrats respectively.
True, but it was only a few years later that the Chesapeake-Leopard incident happened... British territory surrounding the States, and forcing the surrender of a US ship to pressgang sailors on top of it... It would have been all out. We might even have invaded Britain via Liberating Ireland. (edited)
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:56 PM
Imagine that crazy timeline
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And France would have absolutely helped particularly since Britain would have taken the Louisiana territory from them by force.
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For that matter Spain might have as well.
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TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:57 PM
Also, heaven help anybody who lives in any timeline where the Nazis won World War II
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Also, heaven help anybody who lives in any timeline where the Nazis won World War II
We have a whole book about that (turned amazing TV show).
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Imagine that crazy timeline
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 2:58 PM
Yeah if France and the US had gone to war with Britain at that juncture... fuck that would basically be the new First World War. In, like... the mid 1800's.
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We have a whole book about that (turned amazing TV show).
TheAnonymousDew 4/11/2023 2:58 PM
Not just that but the new Wolfenstein timeline
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Either way, those are bleak
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Yeah if France and the US had gone to war with Britain at that juncture... fuck that would basically be the new First World War. In, like... the mid 1800's.
France, US, Spain, and possibly Portugal... Which also means all of South America would be against Britain.
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The Tsar might have sided with the British, but the Dutch wouldn't. Though both might have stayed neutral.
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Italy still butt hurt over Britain going proddy would join against them.
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Yeah... WWI but a hundred years earlier.
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Either way, those are bleak
Yeah but I just want to get back to the Berenstein bears timeline I came from.
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This timeline is pretty fucking bleak as it is.
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DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 3:04 PM
Yeah, it would probably have been a lot more one sided than the actual First World War. Unless Russia joined the British. That... would shift things a bit. Especially depending on where Prussia and the German Confederation came out as well.
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Yeah, it would probably have been a lot more one sided than the actual First World War. Unless Russia joined the British. That... would shift things a bit. Especially depending on where Prussia and the German Confederation came out as well.
I think you'd have to look to what royal marriages had occurred in the previous 50 years or so to decide that... I'm not up on the genealogy of all of those inbred fucks. (edited)
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I think you'd have to look to what royal marriages had occurred in the previous 50 years or so to decide that... I'm not up on the genealogy of all of those inbred fucks. (edited)
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 3:10 PM
My guess based on that and also on religious-political factors, Austrian Empire joins with Spain, France, the US, and Ireland, while both Russia and Prussia, and also most of the unaligned German territories, would side with Britain. (edited)
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Yeah but I just want to get back to the Berenstein bears timeline I came from.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/11/2023 3:12 PM
i’m convinced it was always berenstein and berenstain is a psyop
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My guess based on that and also on religious-political factors, Austrian Empire joins with Spain, France, the US, and Ireland, while both Russia and Prussia, and also most of the unaligned German territories, would side with Britain. (edited)
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 3:13 PM
The Great Plains indigenous people would be a toss up, but I'd imagine that most of them would have sided against Britain because by that point, especially if the US hadn't gotten to do the trail of tears, most of the Indigenous people would just be thinking in terms of the fact that being Indigenous under British rule pretty consistently fucking sucked.
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Would they fight in behalf of the french?
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My guess based on that and also on religious-political factors, Austrian Empire joins with Spain, France, the US, and Ireland, while both Russia and Prussia, and also most of the unaligned German territories, would side with Britain. (edited)
Possibly, but if Napoleon felt he had a chance to invade and win in Britain ... he might have brokered for peace with Russia and Prussia to keep them out of it.
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Because historically the French were less prone to dehumanizing them as a whole
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Would they fight in behalf of the french?
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 3:14 PM
Probably, yeah. While Spanish relations with Indigenous peoples was highly complex, France was actually the European power that had the most consistently positive or at least not batshit genocidal relations with the Indigenous peoples.
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Because historically the French were less prone to dehumanizing them as a whole
Countless tribes adopted French traders officially, and had vast networks of trade with other French traders. French were very good to Native Americans on the whole... unlike French in the Pacific and Indonesia.
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Why the dichotomy between the treatment of indigenous people in North America vs South Pacific and Indonesia... I don't know.
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i’m convinced it was always berenstein and berenstain is a psyop
Maybe... but someone would have found an old book or Highlights Magazine issue by now debunking it.
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Possibly, but if Napoleon felt he had a chance to invade and win in Britain ... he might have brokered for peace with Russia and Prussia to keep them out of it.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 3:18 PM
Russia possibly, but if France was getting help from Austria then there's almost no way he could have kept Prussia out of it. Prussia at that point was just gunning for an excuse to go to war with Austria, and this war would've given them the absolute perfect excuse.
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Countless tribes adopted French traders officially, and had vast networks of trade with other French traders. French were very good to Native Americans on the whole... unlike French in the Pacific and Indonesia.
thats why i wish new france survived and beat the british in the french and indian war (edited)
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Russia possibly, but if France was getting help from Austria then there's almost no way he could have kept Prussia out of it. Prussia at that point was just gunning for an excuse to go to war with Austria, and this war would've given them the absolute perfect excuse.
I'll defer to you on that.
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thats why i wish new france survived and beat the british in the french and indian war (edited)
Nothing says the vast corruption of France either as monarchists or fascists wouldn't have infected the new world in time. France was toxic as fuck, particularly their authority figures.
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Like Les Misérables is fiction... but only just in that it doesn't have specific historical reference.
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And if they treat the peasants like that... well... we know their abuses of SE Asian people quite well... so eventually the First Nations would have gotten their taste of French betrayal.
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britain was worse
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DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 3:26 PM
One thing I wonder about is how this would have affected religion in the US. In this alternate timeline, just due to the various political and immigration factors, one could easily foresee the US proceeding to develop as a predominantly Catholic country. Which... Catholicism has always had influence in the US, but the US being predominantly Catholic would have changed a lot historically, especially in terms of cultural history.
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Depends on the school of catholicism too
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There ARE different forms of catholicism
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French style is a VERY different politics and mores from say, Spainard
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DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 3:34 PM
True. And Catholicism is even theologically a lot more broad than what many people realize. Catholic theology gave us both liberation theology and the divine right of kings. So there's definitely a few different affects that it could've had. Although my money is on it being influenced by a weird sort of bastard hybrid influence of French Catholicism and Irish Catholicism. Which would be... interesting...
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zim
britain was worse
It's nuanced by location... but I won't argue more... Both were fucking horrific.
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DevilTheAutopoet
True. And Catholicism is even theologically a lot more broad than what many people realize. Catholic theology gave us both liberation theology and the divine right of kings. So there's definitely a few different affects that it could've had. Although my money is on it being influenced by a weird sort of bastard hybrid influence of French Catholicism and Irish Catholicism. Which would be... interesting...
Jesuits had the majority following in North and South America, I imagine that would only have continued. And Jesuits are responsible for or instrumental in all of the South American independence wars against Spanish control. (edited)
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And while Jesuits have their good and bad points... they are the most Christ sermon focused sect of Catholicism... the most likely to see independence of people from colonizers as Jesus's will.
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I'm not gonna say they are based... because fuck Catholicism... but Jesuits are responsible for much of the white new englander participation in the civil rights movement. And inspired my mother's participation in that, and to go on to study Anthropology.
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I'm not gonna say they are based... because fuck Catholicism... but Jesuits are responsible for much of the white new englander participation in the civil rights movement. And inspired my mother's participation in that, and to go on to study Anthropology.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 3:45 PM
They're also generally pretty big on liberation theology and have had deep, if often under the table, connections to many of the Marxist, Anarchist, and Anti-colonialist movements in South and Central America.
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They're also generally pretty big on liberation theology and have had deep, if often under the table, connections to many of the Marxist, Anarchist, and Anti-colonialist movements in South and Central America.
It was a Jesuit Priest in Mexico City which brought Marxists to Chiapas to advise them on forming the EZLN.
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And the Jesuits who have spearheaded the public information campaign which is largely responsible for the Mexican government not having enough support to roll into Chiapas and kill everyone.
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sounds like a net positive
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I think overall, a Jesuit Catholic majority in the US would have been a net benefit compared to where we are. It's also possible that at the point where we were tipping the scales ourselves between three choices... Christo-fascism, Robber Barrons, and Labor socialism... that would have tipped us into labor controlled socialism pretty solidly. Probably sparking a second civil war with the south I'll grant... but the Rust belt was very close to going that way in the very early part of the late 1890s-1900s.
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That being said... the first one might never have happened because the southern states wouldn't have had enough resources to actually fund it.
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Nor might would it have been necessary, because Jesuits were among the most vocal abolitionists and a Jesuit majority would have outlawed slavery probably sometime in the 1820s.
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zim
sounds like a net positive
I mean yes, the forming committees of the revolution didn't adopt marxism wholly, but it did both force the Marxists to think outside the box if they wanted to stay and help, and give the Zapatista some of the better ideas of Marxism to adapt to the indigenous practices they were founding it on. But the public information campaign was absolutely a net benefit, without the Mexican people's love of the Zapatista, they'd have been exterminated man woman and child back in 1995 or so.
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how did they make people love them?
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That said... they did have to contrast the EZLN by demonizing other revolutionary groups (somewhat justifiably) in order to accomplish that.
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how did they make people love them?
Because (paraphrasing) "they are the indigenous underdogs ground under the heel of wealthy Castillian landowners. They aren't like the other revolutionary terrorists. They are men women and children who simply want to live peacefully in their ancestral lands. And that they are willing to fight to defend that is a noble cause, not something to shame them for."
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Virtually all Mexicans (especially those who aren't in the upper middle to wealthy castes) have indigenous family (if they aren't entirely indigenous themselves)... and they know that those are the slave labor of the Spaniards. (edited)
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Nor might would it have been necessary, because Jesuits were among the most vocal abolitionists and a Jesuit majority would have outlawed slavery probably sometime in the 1820s.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 4:06 PM
Right, I think the Civil War as we know it wouldn't have happened, but rather a different Civil War would have, as you described, between the heavily socialist Rust Belt regions, and the increasingly Fascistic Deep South, with Appalachia probably being caught in the middle as the main battleground area.
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Because (paraphrasing) "they are the indigenous underdogs ground under the heel of wealthy Castillian landowners. They aren't like the other revolutionary terrorists. They are men women and children who simply want to live peacefully in their ancestral lands. And that they are willing to fight to defend that is a noble cause, not something to shame them for."
thats quite a good image
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zim
how did they make people love them?
Side note, Jesuits are largely responsible for the church switching to sermons in local languages. And Spanish is an amazing language for impassioned speaches about god's underdogs fighting against capitalists who have forsaken Christs words.
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Imagine mass at ten different churches in Mexico City alone, all impressing that message upon the people... and those sermons being rebroadcast via the Catholic radio stations all over Central America and the Southern US. Weekly for several years. (edited)
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It was as much a PR coup as it was a military one if not more.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/11/2023 4:13 PM
Florida's Republican-led Senate passed a bill on Monday to outlaw most abortions after six weeks of pregnancy, bringing the state a step closer to joining others across the U.S. South in banning almost all abortions.
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And there goes Florida about to have a bad time
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Here come the lawsuits~
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If only checks and balances actually worked.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/11/2023 4:17 PM
A conservative advocacy group challenged the book, saying it minimized the Holocaust.
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Right, I think the Civil War as we know it wouldn't have happened, but rather a different Civil War would have, as you described, between the heavily socialist Rust Belt regions, and the increasingly Fascistic Deep South, with Appalachia probably being caught in the middle as the main battleground area.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 4:18 PM
What's cool for me is that if I was, by some miracle of circumstance, still born in this alternate timeline I'd probably have been born and raised in the predominantly socialist Northern Appalachia or Rust Belt regions. Or on an Indian Reserve... which would probably be less ideal.
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DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 4:23 PM
So... they felt that the inclusion of parts of the original diary that were excluded from the mass published version... that just so happen to be the parts relating to her sexual development... somehow minimized the Holocaust? I don't... how does that... what?
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If only checks and balances actually worked.
Reminder, Florida banned abortion earlier, only to get it overturned when a Trump era Judge was like "yeah no, Florida has a fuckton of Jewish people who incidentally are heavily armed, I'm not picking that fight"
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Very well off jewish people who already have Incentive to fuck with DeSatan for the abortion ban
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/11/2023 4:27 PM
THEY WHAT
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well, at least they don't try to hide that they're nazis.....
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So... they felt that the inclusion of parts of the original diary that were excluded from the mass published version... that just so happen to be the parts relating to her sexual development... somehow minimized the Holocaust? I don't... how does that... what?
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 4:27 PM
It really does seem like conservatives think it's possible to keep anyone under the age of 18 from knowing what sex is or anything about it.
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Despite the fact the Song of Solomon has very explicit instructions to appease your wife. In several ways
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And numerous ways to treat people with stds
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well, at least they don't try to hide that they're nazis.....
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 4:30 PM
In fairness, they're keeping the actual Diary of Anne Frank in the library and other books related to it. It seems like their real objection to this is that it includes parts of the original diary that were excluded from the mass published version such as a point where Anne Frank, in a relatively common act of adolescent sexual curiosity, suggested to her friend that they should compare their breasts. So it's more anti-sex than anti-semitic in this particular case.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/11/2023 4:31 PM
Still pretty bad lmao
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Lets be honest, they are itching to do it
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Despite the fact the Song of Solomon has very explicit instructions to appease your wife. In several ways
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 4:32 PM
To me, Song of Solomon is proof that Shakespeare didn't write the Bible, because if Shakespeare was gonna throw in a random erotic poem in the middle of all that other shit, he would've written it way fucking better, and it would've been actually sexy and not just deeply uncomfortable. (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/11/2023 4:47 PM
Reminds me a lot of those pre-ww1/early-ww1 political cartoons
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I don't trust like that
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/11/2023 5:04 PM
Good, we gotta educate people who don't know
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I wonder jow many people have been manipulated by these fucks into thinking that "Yes, Authoritarian communism is the way to make the world a better place"
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Why don't they just censor the sexual parts of the diary?
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(For school, not in general)
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^ talking about when the actual Diary itself gets banned or removed from curriculum
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Why don't they just censor the sexual parts of the diary?
DevilTheAutopoet 4/11/2023 5:59 PM
Well in the original mass published version of the diary, those parts were completely taken out. Keep in mind, they were publishing a teenage girl's diary. She never knew that shit would be made public. So it was with an eye towards her privacy that they left those parts out when they published it. It's just that when they made this graphic novel version of it, they decided for some reason to include those parts. I don't know why they decided to include them, other than maybe to give teens reading it solace in that they're not alone in those sorts of experiences, but who's to say. But yeah, the stuff being objected to in this particular version isn't actually in the original publication of the diary anyway. (edited)
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Gov. Ron DeSantis’ tourism oversight board is looking to exert its authority over development in Disney World’s special district.
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Idaho like, "O noes mah Gibson!"
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Time to further fuck with Idaho
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The Biden administration on Wednesday proposed new privacy protections to prevent women's health information from being used to investigate or sue people who obtain or facilitate abortions.
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Biden says Idaho and Texas can fuck right off
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/12/2023 2:45 PM
The free State of Florida is considering a bill that will give doctors and insurance companies more freedom. It’s the freedom to drop a patient and not pay for their health care based on what they're calling "conscience-based objection."
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Alexa, set a timer for when a Florida doc gets John Q'd
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Thought, the degree business complex has created every conservative's worst nightmare by producing an army of underemployed intellectuals with a grudge against the status quo.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/13/2023 1:01 AM
Have to wonder if a direct democratic style of government might be more feasible now due to smartphones allowing for instant voting
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Have to wonder if a direct democratic style of government might be more feasible now due to smartphones allowing for instant voting
Even if it was 100% free of virii it would still be directly influenced by money through marketing campaigns regarding specific referenda. Whether that marketing was Internet, TV, Radio, or Churches... it would just transition back to whoever spends the most money gets their way.
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So long as capitalism exists within a political entity (even state capitalism as in Marxist Leninist/Maoist communism) there can be no true democratic process. And what's more, democracy is by its very nature prone to the oppression of the minority by the majority, even if there ever was a direct democratic state, which there has not been. It is as fictitious as "Free Market Capitalism". And lastly... we have a better form of decision making at our beck and call. Consensus. The trick to consensus is however that you need to 1: make the basis of your authority bottom up, 2: You need to think more collectively rather than selfishly. 3: You need to divorce yourself of fallacies like "Great Man Theory" and the like. Grant authority to the smallest level of community... the home... organize by block (in suburbia) or apartment building floor, with each home having a representative on a consensus based council. Think collectively so you aren't making community decisions based solely on your desires, account for yours and others needs over your desires in making decisions. And don't think some leader is gonna come out of no where and save the day by doing that work for you. The Zapatista are doing that, and very well. The Kurds in Syria are doing something very similar, and doing well all things considered. There are actually many examples of this world wide, not counting the indigenous communities which have never stopped doing it. In fact, out of the whole world, North America stands alone in it's ridged adherence to radical individualism resulting in the idea of the "Fuck you Ima get mine." attitude. Even Europe as fucked as it is thinks more collectively than either USA or Canada does. And generally they are more better off for it. (edited)
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BubsyFanboy 4/13/2023 4:46 AM
Speaking of abortion issues and attacking conservatives... https://wiadomosci.gazeta.pl/wiadomosci/7,114884,29653253,kaja-godek-porownuje-politykow-do-hitlera-na-czarnej-liscie.html [Polish article] Kaja Godek's bill meant to ban merely informing about getting an abortion was given the bin. It seems PiS is scared of the abortion topic now, since elections are near and abortion rights was the issue that severely tanked PiS support. The woman behind the bill though seems to be mad about this...
Kaja Godek, in response to the Sejm's rejection of the bill "Abortion is murder", launched a social campaign in which she published a list of deputies of "aborters". She compared them to Adolf Hitler. The "infamous" group included, among others: Jarosław Kaczyński, Marek Kuchciński, Michał Dworczyk, Elżbieta Witek. The pro-life activist believes that "opponents of life" do not deserve the votes of voters.
Ah, argumentum ad hitlerum, I thought I wouldn't see you in a while since Korwin-Mikke retired from Konfederacja co-leadership, but alas your beauty is still here! Speaking of Konfederacja though, how curious that they're the only party she hadn't attacked yet. Perhaps she's thinking of running on their lists again...
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Possibly, but if Napoleon felt he had a chance to invade and win in Britain ... he might have brokered for peace with Russia and Prussia to keep them out of it.
I mean Napoleon did try to invade Britain
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Trafalgar made sure it wouldnt happen but he had his army ready
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I think overall, a Jesuit Catholic majority in the US would have been a net benefit compared to where we are. It's also possible that at the point where we were tipping the scales ourselves between three choices... Christo-fascism, Robber Barrons, and Labor socialism... that would have tipped us into labor controlled socialism pretty solidly. Probably sparking a second civil war with the south I'll grant... but the Rust belt was very close to going that way in the very early part of the late 1890s-1900s.
where I live in western europe, social christiannism was, and to an extent still is, pretty strong
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they've often been the swing party between the liberals and socdems
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I wonder jow many people have been manipulated by these fucks into thinking that "Yes, Authoritarian communism is the way to make the world a better place"
people with a lot of rage against the system for w/e reason
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and so they fall for an opposition that will pander to these feelings
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a lot of people, both in left and right, could have gone the other way if just a few changes in their lives happenned
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change the media they consume a bit and you can get a tankie or a fascist, or even sometimes an anarchist
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they'll convince themselves it was a conscious personnal choice but it really wasn't
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BubsyFanboy 4/13/2023 9:42 AM
Excellent tutorial.
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If they were to pass it, I'd hope that at least like Poland they'd mandate the doctors to send the patients to someone who will perform those abortions. If the GOP have their hands in it though, I have no hope for it.
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True pro-life party = American Solidarity Party True small government party = Libertarian Party
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Conservative party claiming to be both while being neither = Republican Party
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Bruh. Black women are several times more likely to get an abortion than White women
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What is this guy smoking
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Bruh. Black women are several times more likely to get an abortion than White women
This fact is literally an argument that pro-lifers, including Republicans, use
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also over the (In) Justice Thomas bribe scandal going on, @Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy and I coined a slogan that I feel we should send to every democrat in fucking power rn: Revenge for Roe, Thomas must go
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Avenge Roe might sound better
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(although it's not proper usage)
4:21 PM
that's a great slogan tho
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/13/2023 4:36 PM
How about "Justice for Roe, Thomas must go"?
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that's a great slogan tho
exactly A core problem with leftist politics is honestly ya'll suck at short sweet and memorable slogans. Sometimes being a filthy capitalist can be used to do good, like slogans which not only can be used to sum up stances, but also stick it to people's head
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facts are absolutely important, but you gotta remember people had limited attention spans (thanks TIktok) unless it directly pertains to them
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also, I like both Avenge or Justice tbf, but admittedly Revenge for Roe is also lowkey insulating so called political witch hunt attacks accusations for Dems
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and its a open secret a LOT of the lower courts are finding the current Supreme court illegit (mostly the judges specifically)
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Someone gonna die (I mean this is a metaphorical sense)
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Someone gonna die (I mean this is a metaphorical sense)
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/13/2023 5:26 PM
Either way, they likely aren't seeing the outside of a box for a while.
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Yup
5:27 PM
Either or, dude won't be dead But he sure as fuck gonna be in box for awhile (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/13/2023 7:12 PM
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) on Thursday took to Twitter to defend Air National Guardsman Jack Teixeira, who was arrested Thursday over his alleged role in leaking Pentagon files.  “Jak…
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apparently PBS is leaving twitter too, following NPR
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this might be the true beginning of the end for twitter, since its main use has always been to be first on the infos
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i couldnt give a shit about whoever thinks they're important enough that someone might enjoy their tweets about their daily lives
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/13/2023 9:21 PM
Conservatives urged the court to take up the case, which addresses Biden’s power to cancel student debt
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/13/2023 10:18 PM
A Travis County judge Thursday unsealed court records that revealed more anti-protester social media posts that a jury did not see during the trial.
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⚡️NEW LEAKED AUDIO: TN House Republicans infighting over #TennesseeThree votes. CEPICKY: “You gotta do what’s right even when you think it might be wrong.”🤔 Leadership says Barrett made them look racist, Cepicky says they're at "war", etc. must-listen. https://t.co/mUkzwWXvav
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massive MASSIVE leak from TN's caucus meeting
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BubsyFanboy 4/14/2023 7:43 AM
Photo of the Day: Anti-CCP protest spotted in Taipei https://t.co/zKjnNXQ6UX
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/14/2023 8:39 AM
Love the costumes
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/14/2023 10:35 AM
The Tennessee House of Representatives today voted to allow government discrimination against interracial and same sex marriages. Republican assurances that cases like Loving v. Virginia and Lawrence v. Texas were safe after the Dobbs decision were...
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/14/2023 12:57 PM
Arkansas’ top law enforcement official has advanced new measures that from a civil rights standpoint would bring a large swath of a state with a history of discrimination back to the future. Attorney General Tim Griffin earlier this week filed four briefs that aim to repeal federal desegregation sup...
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Sherman intensified
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Time to burn some meat plants down
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Real talk
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If these dumbasses try to repeal loving vs, that's a war
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Do you KNOW how many mixed race people are there?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/14/2023 4:34 PM
@Spinner What do you think the chain of events leading to collapse would be? I know you talk a lot about famine and how that would kill, do you think that would be through environmental factors or artificial ones?
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got into a discussion about collapse on another server and i know you’re quite knowledgeable on it
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@Spinner What do you think the chain of events leading to collapse would be? I know you talk a lot about famine and how that would kill, do you think that would be through environmental factors or artificial ones?
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/14/2023 5:09 PM
Having come from the south, I’d love the see a lot of it ravaged by war, so long as it is forcibly rebuilt into a functioning first world nation
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It’s infuriating seeing people who were driven into poverty and fucked over by big business and conservative governments fight so fanatically to defend their own misery
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Id like to return to the mountains from whence I came one day. Im really hoping its not nuked out or a battleground by then.
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@Spinner What do you think the chain of events leading to collapse would be? I know you talk a lot about famine and how that would kill, do you think that would be through environmental factors or artificial ones?
Well crop yields will decrease steady over the next decade. Not much of a problem right now because we make so much excess. But compound loss of yield over time will add up quickly. Mostly due to drought conditions, and increased topsoil erosion from heavy spring rains after long dry summer/winter. This will steady get worse over the next decade to two decades till basically nothing can grow in our current majority of farmland. This will be worse than we think because currently mandated renewable fuels take precedence over food, so what corn does grow will go to ethanol production first... foodstuffs second. The number one cause for a collapse will be isolated pockets of food insecurity which lead to humans acting out of fear. These isolated pockets will become more frequent and widespread as production decreases. Accelerationism from the Christo-fascists will increase and become more violent. They are already shooting at power substations. They are already murdering innocent people. The protests are going to become more outright riots, or attempted massacres. This is intentional, fascism needs to breed fear, more violence, more chaos where we had complacency, makes for more fear. More people responding out of fear to that, will respond more strongly out of fear to things that threaten their survival (see food shortages). Whether they gain control of the government or not, the Federal government must respond with fascist actions to counter those Christo-fascists. Further causing distrust in the federal government (justified). Propaganda from Christo-fascists will cause more distrust (unjustified) which will compound and inflate the optics of the justified distrust. And they will continue to be ineffective at stopping the christo-fascist extremists... further degrading trust. State and local governments are largely already under the thumb of conservatives, neo-liberals, or christo-fascists already. (edited)
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Local and state executives and lawmakers will continue to do the things they already are doing. 1: Make laws and decisions which enrich them and their friends and family without thought to consequence. 2: Do exactly as their wealthy donors tell them to regardless of consequence. 3: Crack down HARD on anyone who dares oppose them. 4: Don't crack down on whomever their wealthy donors tell them to let slide. So we'll see tacit approval from local and state governments for the actions of right wing and white power insurrectionary actions. But swift and violent opposition to liberal and anti-fascist actions.
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People who do not disentangle themselves from the nuclear family isolationist mentality of capitalism will be the hardest hit as they will have zero community support when they face the challenges that come.
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Though they may not be in an overtly targeted for violence minority group, they will have less support in general than those who are.
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The next hardest hit will be those who are of a targeted minority group who have a supportive community to fall back onto.
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But with law enforcement doing what law enforcement does best, which is defend the property of wealthy power players... they will continue to have more and more people see them as no better than the right wing militias... till they have no social authority at all, but law enforcement will always respond to the lack of social authority with enforced violent authority. Step by step escalation of fear, and anger, and rage, will continue to grow in the US.
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Then some right wing militia will get the timing right, and pull off some violent action which exacerbates the situation. They could among many possible things, blackout a state, hijack food trucks, blockade black or brown neighborhoods, or gayborhoods... the list is endless as to what they could do, but if it's done at the right time... the façade of civilized interaction between people will collapse.
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From there... first, financial institutions will collapse as people stop spending money on anything, let alone mortgages (nearly our entire banking system is dependent upon the cash flow received by mortgage payments to make good on short term loans taken out by banks for operating capital). The value of the dollar will plummet, prices for everything will skyrocket so fast that it will make the past 10 years look like a golden age of prosperity. When people have to spend a whole day's pay to feed themselves for that day... people will stop going to work. We'll see a lot of a variety of responses. We'll see people coming together (because it's built into humans to do so) to rapidly create mutual aid/community defense groups. We'll see people scrambling to build sustainable decentralized food production. We'll see envious/hateful people trying to destroy those mutual aid/food production efforts. We'll see well meaning people violently attacking whomever they see as the cause of their misfortune. We'll see aberrant people extorting innocent people for their own benefit. We'll see violence in public this country probably hasn't seen since the early 1820's and then only in New York City. Criminal organizations will spring up everywhere, existing ones will openly recruit. Christo-fascists will see this as their moment to engage in open conflict with their particularly hated targeted groups. (edited)
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There literally won't be enough law enforcement to put a dent in any of the violence going on (though they will try, and in so doing target minority and poor folks disproportionately), their municipal leaders if they are smart will assign them instead to protecting the wealthy neighborhoods and the infrastructure which supports them. (edited)
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And then, things will get worse from there. (edited)
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My current estimation is that by 2040 we'll be at the point where the shit really hits the fan. Assuming of course right wing groups don't accelerate the decline any more than they are.
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Addendum: Regarding local and state laws... as things decline tax revenue will decline. Thus local and state authorities will increase taxes to compensate. Further increasing the financial burden on the average citizen within those municipalities/states.
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Politicians have an amazing capacity to mimic ostriches. They will react to changes with the wrong move, because their heads are so deeply in the sand they can't see past their nose.
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There MIGHT be individual cities, or communities who take actions appropriate to the situation. They do have the authority to seize land and use funds to build anything they deem good for their population. A municipality could for example seize a nearby soybean or corn farm from an agracorp and build a community aquaponics/hydroponics greenhouse farm, distribute that food to the residents of the community.
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But I'd say those wouldn't make up 1% of municipalities in the US.
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Personally. I hope I'm wrong. Even though the best thing that could happen to humanity long term is the collapse of capitalism... the amount of suffering and horror kids now will face as young adults is beyond my real capacity to imagine... and I'd rather us have a hundred years to do egalitarian based alternatives to just show people a better way rather than have capitalism collapse. (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/14/2023 6:38 PM
Thank you very much man, you’re like the old wise wizard of this server 😂
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Thank you very much man, you’re like the old wise wizard of this server 😂
I'm honored at least one person thinks so. 😉
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Out of curiosity, What is the grand republican hierarchy? I know that they believe that rich > poor. Man > Women. Cis > Trans. Straight > Gay. White > POC. Old > New. God/ Their opinions > Science/Reality. But how does it all fit together? Does a poor white man have authority over a rich black woman? Etc. I know there is no formalized thing but what is an example of the generalized agreement? (edited)
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Out of curiosity, What is the grand republican hierarchy? I know that they believe that rich > poor. Man > Women. Cis > Trans. Straight > Gay. White > POC. Old > New. God/ Their opinions > Science/Reality. But how does it all fit together? Does a poor white man have authority over a rich black woman? Etc. I know there is no formalized thing but what is an example of the generalized agreement? (edited)
Ultimately it falls back onto "Ima get mine, fuck you." I think. There is no other formalized hierarchy that I can tell other than the wealthy dictate to the poorer members how they should feel about whatever thing strikes their fancy to make a decree about.
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There are interpersonal relationships between the oligarchy class members, and that class and their puppet caste... but beyond personal relationships I don't think the folks at the top of the party give a fuck about their "base" beyond the authority having them in their pocket gives them. (edited)
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I disagree, since their puppet class has a nasty tendency to become the oligarch class. Case in point, the gqp vs the remainder of the republican party or what the gqp calls rinos.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/14/2023 6:53 PM
ah, spinner has released another Politics royale novel, time to get my coffee and sit down on my living room couch
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I disagree, since their puppet class has a nasty tendency to become the oligarch class. Case in point, the gqp vs the remainder of the republican party or what the gqp calls rinos.
Well, I'm still undecided how much of the oligarchy caste is actually down with Q.
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Since all we see is the puppet caste... it's hard to say.
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ah, spinner has released another Politics royale novel, time to get my coffee and sit down on my living room couch
I prefer to think of them as impromptu essays, thank you very much. 😉
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Out of curiosity, What is the grand republican hierarchy? I know that they believe that rich > poor. Man > Women. Cis > Trans. Straight > Gay. White > POC. Old > New. God/ Their opinions > Science/Reality. But how does it all fit together? Does a poor white man have authority over a rich black woman? Etc. I know there is no formalized thing but what is an example of the generalized agreement? (edited)
floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/14/2023 7:16 PM
Yes, a poor white man has authority over a rich black woman, because a woman and especially a black one shouldn't be rich
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Yes, a poor white man has authority over a rich black woman, because a woman and especially a black one shouldn't be rich
I mean yes, but that could change pretty quickly if the rich black woman was the wife of some token GOP elite black man. (edited)
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There's also Candace Owens
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/14/2023 7:19 PM
yeah, true
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y'know i wonder how much candace owens is being paid to live her life as an actor
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the daily wire has a suspicious track record of hiring former or aspiring actors
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Well crop yields will decrease steady over the next decade. Not much of a problem right now because we make so much excess. But compound loss of yield over time will add up quickly. Mostly due to drought conditions, and increased topsoil erosion from heavy spring rains after long dry summer/winter. This will steady get worse over the next decade to two decades till basically nothing can grow in our current majority of farmland. This will be worse than we think because currently mandated renewable fuels take precedence over food, so what corn does grow will go to ethanol production first... foodstuffs second. The number one cause for a collapse will be isolated pockets of food insecurity which lead to humans acting out of fear. These isolated pockets will become more frequent and widespread as production decreases. Accelerationism from the Christo-fascists will increase and become more violent. They are already shooting at power substations. They are already murdering innocent people. The protests are going to become more outright riots, or attempted massacres. This is intentional, fascism needs to breed fear, more violence, more chaos where we had complacency, makes for more fear. More people responding out of fear to that, will respond more strongly out of fear to things that threaten their survival (see food shortages). Whether they gain control of the government or not, the Federal government must respond with fascist actions to counter those Christo-fascists. Further causing distrust in the federal government (justified). Propaganda from Christo-fascists will cause more distrust (unjustified) which will compound and inflate the optics of the justified distrust. And they will continue to be ineffective at stopping the christo-fascist extremists... further degrading trust. State and local governments are largely already under the thumb of conservatives, neo-liberals, or christo-fascists already. (edited)
DevilTheAutopoet 4/14/2023 7:32 PM
One thing I'd point out in this regard. Many of the highest level neoliberal figures have long had Malthusian lines of thought to their rhetoric. And so especially through the influence of people like the Rockefeller's and groups like the Club of Rome, one could easily see American neoliberalism evolving into outright Ecofascism as things progressively get worse. So even if the Christofascists don't succeed in taking over, it'll get to the point where the alternative isn't much better.
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One thing I'd point out in this regard. Many of the highest level neoliberal figures have long had Malthusian lines of thought to their rhetoric. And so especially through the influence of people like the Rockefeller's and groups like the Club of Rome, one could easily see American neoliberalism evolving into outright Ecofascism as things progressively get worse. So even if the Christofascists don't succeed in taking over, it'll get to the point where the alternative isn't much better.
Assuming the rest of the descent into chaos doesn't happen, yeah I agree. I just don't see the neoliberals as being adaptable enough to rapidly do the things necessary to make that shift before people start dying of starvation and chaos takes over.
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Also that would require them decisively winning both the House and Senate, and Presidency, with a margin enough to enact anything they wanted to do.
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Out of curiosity, What is the grand republican hierarchy? I know that they believe that rich > poor. Man > Women. Cis > Trans. Straight > Gay. White > POC. Old > New. God/ Their opinions > Science/Reality. But how does it all fit together? Does a poor white man have authority over a rich black woman? Etc. I know there is no formalized thing but what is an example of the generalized agreement? (edited)
DevilTheAutopoet 4/14/2023 7:37 PM
I would agree with Spinner on this, but I'd also say that if I was to create a list from most important to least important for them based on what I've seen it'd be: Gender Conformity Sexuality Wealth Race Religion Sex Age But it does vary heavily from conservative to conservative. This is just a general trend based on what I've seen.
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I would agree with Spinner on this, but I'd also say that if I was to create a list from most important to least important for them based on what I've seen it'd be: Gender Conformity Sexuality Wealth Race Religion Sex Age But it does vary heavily from conservative to conservative. This is just a general trend based on what I've seen.
I'll agree with that, but I think it's mostly due to what they think is best to manipulate the base with. I don't think the power brokers of the party really give two shits about any of these things other than a normal wealthy white perspective on race.
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Like of course wealthy white men are going to rule, and minorities and women are to be subservient in their eyes. But it's baked into their paradigm so deeply it's passé' to speak of it amongst one another.
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I'll agree with that, but I think it's mostly due to what they think is best to manipulate the base with. I don't think the power brokers of the party really give two shits about any of these things other than a normal wealthy white perspective on race.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/14/2023 7:42 PM
It's also insane when you look at it, realize that age is at the bottom, and think about that in the context of how absurdly ageist conservatives are towards young people. And that's probably the one they care about the least.
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It's also insane when you look at it, realize that age is at the bottom, and think about that in the context of how absurdly ageist conservatives are towards young people. And that's probably the one they care about the least.
I think it depends on the caste of conservative. Like a wealthy conservative will mentor/hire a young one from the right breeding stock over someone with multiple degrees and the wisdom of age. All other things being equal. (edited)
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It's also insane when you look at it, realize that age is at the bottom, and think about that in the context of how absurdly ageist conservatives are towards young people. And that's probably the one they care about the least.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/14/2023 7:47 PM
I've literally heard a conservative utter the words "Young people don't have rights, they have privileges. Young people being allowed to speak freely and vote doesn't mean that they have a right to. Just like how a child can be grounded when they act up, young people need to realize that we can take their so-called 'rights' away if they keep fucking shit up."
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I've literally heard a conservative utter the words "Young people don't have rights, they have privileges. Young people being allowed to speak freely and vote doesn't mean that they have a right to. Just like how a child can be grounded when they act up, young people need to realize that we can take their so-called 'rights' away if they keep fucking shit up."
I've never heard it exactly that way, but similar yes.
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I think it depends on the caste of conservative. Like a wealthy conservative will mentor/hire a young one from the right breeding stock over someone with multiple degrees and the wisdom of age. All other things being equal. (edited)
DevilTheAutopoet 4/14/2023 7:49 PM
True. I was more referring to the general tendency to blame as much as they feasibly can on young people, treat young people like shit, and then expect automatic deference and respect in return. To varying degrees, I've seen that sort of ideology and mindset around age a lot from conservatives. Especially in the baby boomer generation. Silent gen weirdly less so.
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GenX conservatives are also more chill on the ageism shit. Which is weird because in my experience GenX conservatives have like zero chill on anything else. Some of them make Boomer conservatives look sane.
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True. I was more referring to the general tendency to blame as much as they feasibly can on young people, treat young people like shit, and then expect automatic deference and respect in return. To varying degrees, I've seen that sort of ideology and mindset around age a lot from conservatives. Especially in the baby boomer generation. Silent gen weirdly less so.
Because the Silent Generation was fighting a world war when they were 16-35 years old and had probably been spending most of their youth working hard labor jobs to support their parents who couldn't get work.
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Boomers didn't do shit as kids except get everything gifted to them by their parents who wanted them to have better than they had as kids.
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Because the Silent Generation was fighting a world war when they were 16-35 years old and had probably been spending most of their youth working hard labor jobs to support their parents who couldn't get work.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/14/2023 8:00 PM
I thought Silent Gen was mostly Korea? I know some of them fought in WW2 by lying about their age (both of my great grandad's on my dad's side did that) but I thought it was mostly Korea and early Vietnam that they were known for?
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I thought Silent Gen was mostly Korea? I know some of them fought in WW2 by lying about their age (both of my great grandad's on my dad's side did that) but I thought it was mostly Korea and early Vietnam that they were known for?
Boomers were in Vietnam, Silent Gen was WWII and Korea.
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My mother was born in 49, her mother was a MASH surgical nurse in Korea, father waist gunner on a B-17 in WWII.
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Mother - Boomer Grandparents - Silent Gen.
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But something to keep in mind about Boomers and vietnam. Nearly every Boomer with any authority at all right now evaded the draft by getting powerful parents to get friends to defer or disqualify them. The boomers who did serve, well they are dying slowly and painfully with almost no help... and ONLY just got presumptive Agent Orange qualification from the VA. I see Boomers as two separate coexisting generations. The ones who have died, or are dying, who were probably dirt poor and worked their ass off. And the ones who've held authority since the late 70s/80s who haven't done shit. (edited)
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Boomers are such because they are the generation that never saw the Great Depression and most were born either during or immediately after WWII when everyone came home and started fucking.
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Boomer for both Boom times, and Baby boom.
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The boomer generation did live through the stagflation times of the 70's and the oil shocks.
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Also there may be survivorship bias but the boom times of the baby boom generation wasn't evenly shared.
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MisterStompy 4/14/2023 8:16 PM
Well I certainly don't want them. Someone else can have them. https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2023/04/12/patriot-front-members-appear-idaho-wanted-list
Judges in Kootenai County, Idaho, have issued arrest warrants for five members of white nationalist hate group Patriot Front, and the men have been added to a wanted list circulated by that county’s sheriff.
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But something to keep in mind about Boomers and vietnam. Nearly every Boomer with any authority at all right now evaded the draft by getting powerful parents to get friends to defer or disqualify them. The boomers who did serve, well they are dying slowly and painfully with almost no help... and ONLY just got presumptive Agent Orange qualification from the VA. I see Boomers as two separate coexisting generations. The ones who have died, or are dying, who were probably dirt poor and worked their ass off. And the ones who've held authority since the late 70s/80s who haven't done shit. (edited)
DevilTheAutopoet 4/14/2023 8:17 PM
That's definitely an interesting way of looking at it. Especially since, despite what a lot of younger people tend to think, liberal Boomers do exist. Hell, leftist Boomers do exist. They're not even that small in number. Though the generation as a whole has definitely shifted to the right as they've gotten older. The Hippie to QAnon pipeline has been fascinating to watch. And I think there's a myriad of factors around that, but the two biggest ones I think are that the Boomers were the last generation to get substantially wealthier as they got older (a portion of GenX has been able to do that, but to my understanding even most GenX will be lucky if they can retire by 70). Also, I think a lot of Boomers who were hippies back in the day did so without really understanding much about the actual values of the movement they were a part of. I honestly think a lot of the hippies were kinda just along for the party, and sheer numbers in the gatherings because of that gave the false impression that there were massive numbers of young people actually supporting these radical ideas. And don't get me wrong, I think a lot of them truly did. But I think many, if not the majority, were mostly just there for a good time.
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There are also commonalities in that the "establisment" is trying to control you and the medical mainstream is not to be trusted.
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MisterStompy 4/14/2023 8:21 PM
I think this might be a little bit of an overreaction you guys
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Also there may be survivorship bias but the boom times of the baby boom generation wasn't evenly shared.
Absolutely true. Which is why I kinda view Boomers as two coinciding generations.
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With a focus on alternative sources of knowledge being more true than what the state and the news media puts out.
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MisterStompy 4/14/2023 8:22 PM
I don't even know who Dylan Mulvaney is
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Transgender bud light influencer, I think.
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I think this might be a little bit of an overreaction you guys
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/14/2023 8:22 PM
And that's how you know Matt Walsh was involved in this.
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MisterStompy 4/14/2023 8:23 PM
So the boycott's going well I guess
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It's the reason. That the far right is destroying all the bud light it buys in a massive temper tantrum.
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Transgender bud light influencer, I think.
MisterStompy 4/14/2023 8:23 PM
what the hell is a bud light influencer, fuck I'm getting old
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I don't even know who Dylan Mulvaney is
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/14/2023 8:23 PM
Trans influencer who did a promotional bit for Budweiser dressed as Audrey Hepburn.
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Needless to say, the rightoids had a shit fit.
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So the boycott's going well I guess
Take a look at 5 years, bud light has been slowly going down due to craft beer.
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That's definitely an interesting way of looking at it. Especially since, despite what a lot of younger people tend to think, liberal Boomers do exist. Hell, leftist Boomers do exist. They're not even that small in number. Though the generation as a whole has definitely shifted to the right as they've gotten older. The Hippie to QAnon pipeline has been fascinating to watch. And I think there's a myriad of factors around that, but the two biggest ones I think are that the Boomers were the last generation to get substantially wealthier as they got older (a portion of GenX has been able to do that, but to my understanding even most GenX will be lucky if they can retire by 70). Also, I think a lot of Boomers who were hippies back in the day did so without really understanding much about the actual values of the movement they were a part of. I honestly think a lot of the hippies were kinda just along for the party, and sheer numbers in the gatherings because of that gave the false impression that there were massive numbers of young people actually supporting these radical ideas. And don't get me wrong, I think a lot of them truly did. But I think many, if not the majority, were mostly just there for a good time.
Very well stated. Regarding Gen X, the difference there regarding wealth is when the Gen X was born. Early Gen X still had super low tuition, and computer science jobs that didn't require degrees to enter. Late Gen X had all the disabilities financially Millenials had.
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Take a look at 5 years, bud light has been slowly going down due to craft beer.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/14/2023 8:24 PM
If anything, the whole boycott has resurrected the brand a little bit.
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Nice going, rightoids.
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MisterStompy 4/14/2023 8:24 PM
I hear the word "influencer" and my first thought is of those prank channels from the mid 2010's
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you know like that one guy who pretended to get shot by ISIS in front of his best friend
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Also there may be survivorship bias but the boom times of the baby boom generation wasn't evenly shared.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/14/2023 8:25 PM
That's actually very true. When we talk about conservatism and the Boomer generation, it's definitely worthy of note that we're mostly talking about white Boomers. Black Boomers grew up quite literally legally classified as second-class citizens. They spent much of their youth literally fighting for their own basic human rights. There's definitely conservatism to be found amongst Black Boomers, and a lot of that can be traced to religion, but even despite religious influence, a lot of Black Boomers are actually a fuckton more chill than their GenX successors. Sometimes I've talked to older Black people expecting to have the same sort of convo I have with white Boomers only to be completely floored when they start saying some of the most radical lefty shit like it's no big deal. So yeah, there's definitely more complexity to all of this.
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MisterStompy 4/14/2023 8:26 PM
It wasn't even an ad campaign apparently Bud Light just gave Dylan a beer can and took a picture of them, that's all they did, this was marketing genius
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Nice going, rightoids.
They have not heard of the Streisand effect.
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That's actually very true. When we talk about conservatism and the Boomer generation, it's definitely worthy of note that we're mostly talking about white Boomers. Black Boomers grew up quite literally legally classified as second-class citizens. They spent much of their youth literally fighting for their own basic human rights. There's definitely conservatism to be found amongst Black Boomers, and a lot of that can be traced to religion, but even despite religious influence, a lot of Black Boomers are actually a fuckton more chill than their GenX successors. Sometimes I've talked to older Black people expecting to have the same sort of convo I have with white Boomers only to be completely floored when they start saying some of the most radical lefty shit like it's no big deal. So yeah, there's definitely more complexity to all of this.
Certainly, but those black boomers are not the boomers in charge. If they are black and have authority they have adopted white boomer mentality, and become tokens.
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Sorry, that was off topic.
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On the subject of Boomer leftists... my mother was absolutely one, worked with BPP in NYC, became an Anthropologist to uncover and preserve the truth about North American indigenous people, etc... But she's dead. And the few other white boomer leftists I know of have put their foot in their mouths so badly they are irrelevant now.
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But there are shining examples of boomer leftists over time. I think however they are the exception that proves the rule.
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My father, is a bit of a boomer. As in he doesn't want his tax dollars to go pay for gender reassignment surgery.
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My father, is a bit of a boomer. As in he doesn't want his tax dollars to go pay for gender reassignment surgery.
How old is he?
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Just retired a year or two ago.
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So, late 60's.
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So very old Gen X or very young boomer... yeah they often are the worst of what looks like boomers. (edited)
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Older Gen X even claim to be boomers face to face. Will get really fucking pissed if you suggest they aren't. (edited)
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And then out comes the ageism.
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Being a boomer, isn't an age, it's a mindset.
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Boomer is pretty broad, 1945-65 I think
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My parents are very late boomers
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Same.
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Saw the moon landings in school on a little TV
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Boomer is pretty broad, 1945-65 I think
Like with all generation groups the definitions change... in the 90s they taught the Boomer generation went from 41 to 60.
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Yeah
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'41 is weird to me though, because I thought the actual "baby boom" happened after the war ended
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'41 is weird to me though, because I thought the actual "baby boom" happened after the war ended
Naw women were doing their "duty" with the guys going off to war.
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In fact, at the time it was seen as a patriotic duty.
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Makes sense
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And condoms were made of lambskin (intestine actually)... marginally effective at best. (edited)
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I remember learning about old timey birth control in middle school health class
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They'd put a sponge up in there sometimes
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late 1800s I think
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Possibly early 1900s
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Older Gen X even claim to be boomers face to face. Will get really fucking pissed if you suggest they aren't. (edited)
DevilTheAutopoet 4/14/2023 8:40 PM
And, like I said, a lot of GenX conservatives, especially those in the older half of GenX, make Boomer conservatives look sane by comparison. Like, I don't wtf happened from 1965 to 1972 (I do know but that's besides the point), but those fucking years bred some craziest goddamn people, like holy shit.
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(perhaps)
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They'd put a sponge up in there sometimes
That was still used in the 40s... women would put it in before going out to the jazz club, on the way they'd meet and be chatted up by a soldier or sailor on leave.
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Lead and pollution
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No joke.
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MisterStompy 4/14/2023 8:43 PM
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And a healthy amount of parental abandonment
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Lead and pollution
And growing up with a TV that was showing combat at dinner time.
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And a healthy amount of parental abandonment
And parental abandonment.
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MisterStompy 4/14/2023 8:44 PM
GLORY FUCKIN BE, BOYS
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Nahh I gotta diverge there. I grew up watching people get killed on demand via the internet
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My parents and grandparents didn't see shit compared to what I have.
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Nahh I gotta diverge there. I grew up watching people get killed on demand via the internet
Seeking out that stuff, and having it a daily part of your background ambiance is different.
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My Great gramps.mightve in Korea, my dad in Iraq but as far as I know they didn't dust anyone off.
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The "combat" footage, at least the stuff we have surviving today, that aired on US television was nothing
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during Vietnam
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I mean, for the time, it was horrifying
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It was by necessity more tame and 3 wars have gone on my entire life.
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And it's still horrific today, but it's not gore. It's gunfire and guys running around
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They made me watch the second tower fall live.
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To a TV viewer, it's not like watching someone get shot or beheaded on camera
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I mean, for the time, it was horrifying
MisterStompy 4/14/2023 8:47 PM
Me waving to the CBS cameras and saying "MOM, HEY MOM I'M IN NAM!" and getting my whole squad pasted by the cong
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The "combat" footage, at least the stuff we have surviving today, that aired on US television was nothing
That might be part of the problem. These are all the people who think it's cool to send folks off to war for glory, never having been in it to begin with.
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Anyone who did go to war and was born in 1965-72 probably went to one in which we absolutely fucking steamrolled the enemy, took minimal casualties and left after a few months, like Grenada or Panama
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I don't get Boomers and Gen Xers like that. Some didn't even serve when a war was going on, or they did and did some dumb shit like repair refrigerators and then they're like "why don't you wanna go to Iraq? I served my country, now it's time for you to serve it too"
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Anyone who did go to war and was born in 1965-72 probably went to one in which we absolutely fucking steamrolled the enemy, took minimal casualties and left after a few months, like Grenada or Panama
MisterStompy 4/14/2023 8:52 PM
I mean that's basically how the combat part of Vietnam went. same with Afghanistan. People here "America lost Vietnam" and assumed that meant the NVA was mowing down Marines
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I don't get Boomers and Gen Xers like that. Some didn't even serve when a war was going on, or they did and did some dumb shit like repair refrigerators and then they're like "why don't you wanna go to Iraq? I served my country, now it's time for you to serve it too"
I gotta tell you, the first question I ask of anyone I meet who glorifies war as a veteran is. "What'd you do while you were in." Invariably it's some stolen valor super soldier bullshit, or "I was an HVAC Tech."
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MisterStompy 4/14/2023 8:52 PM
There's a reason that in both the Vietnam and Afghanistan wars, the enemy waited until the American military was gone to begin their final offensive
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There's a reason that in both the Vietnam and Afghanistan wars, the enemy waited until the American military was gone to begin their final offensive
Lessons to be held very close to our hearts in coming years I feel.
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MisterStompy 4/14/2023 8:53 PM
There's footage of a Taliban commander smacking one of their soldiers in Kabul upside the head because he's firing his AK in the air wildly and he basically tells him "if you hit one of the soldiers at the airport all of this is for nothing, we lose"
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One of the more sane things about the us is that we don't go for outright imperialism anymore. We just go for neo imperialism.
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MisterStompy 4/14/2023 8:54 PM
That's why it's so fucking funny to me when some larper goes "If the Taliban can wait out the US army so can I!" Wait them out... until what? Until they go home? This is America. This is their home. They aren't leaving.
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And if it gets to the point that you have the army killing American citizens who have acted as insurgents, the gloves are fucking off. You'll see chemical weapons deployed among other things, I almost guarantee it
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God help us all if shit gets that bad
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And if it gets to the point that you have the army killing American citizens who have acted as insurgents, the gloves are fucking off. You'll see chemical weapons deployed among other things, I almost guarantee it
There are ways to handle those scenarios for people in our shoes. I spent a long time talking to officer friends I have on that specific subject.
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It won't be cut and dry military against all civilians... they will seek out civilian groups they can work with just like they did in Syria.
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There are ways to handle those scenarios for people in our shoes. I spent a long time talking to officer friends I have on that specific subject.
MisterStompy 4/14/2023 8:57 PM
I just hope I'm not too old to sign up for the army should that come around. I'd rather actually be doing something than just hoping I don't get caught in the crossfire, and I'm certainly not joining the fucking insurgents
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It won't be cut and dry military against all civilians... they will seek out civilian groups they can work with just like they did in Syria.
MisterStompy 4/14/2023 8:58 PM
So like Bleeding Kansas but I get guns from the CIA? Okay, I can live with that.
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So like Bleeding Kansas but I get guns from the CIA? Okay, I can live with that.
Not from the CIA... but yes kinda that situation... only in a hundred or more different places with different groups. What the Feds will see as insurgents will be the right wing militias.
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It'll be special operations folks infiltrating orgs to decide who's who.
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Not from the CIA... but yes kinda that situation... only in a hundred or more different places with different groups. What the Feds will see as insurgents will be the right wing militias.
MisterStompy 4/14/2023 9:00 PM
There's some anarchist war journalist who normally writes good shit, but he had this podcast about a scenario like this and he said the feds would help the militias out and this whole time I'm just thinking "What are you fucking high?"
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He does that "Behind The Bastards" podcast too
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There's some anarchist war journalist who normally writes good shit, but he had this podcast about a scenario like this and he said the feds would help the militias out and this whole time I'm just thinking "What are you fucking high?"
Some militias they might help... but there would be very strict terms.
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MisterStompy 4/14/2023 9:01 PM
No he has anarkiddie brain so he thinks "US Government bad therefor they would work with Nazi Skinhead Militia"
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Like no dude they're probably gonna gas those fuckers, ironically
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Robert Evans is his name
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Never really paid attention to Evans enough to know how he thinks. I'm on the fence about him in general.
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MisterStompy 4/14/2023 9:03 PM
He usually knows what he's talking about but he has a very black and white view of things
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He genuinely doesn't remember that during the 80's and 90's there were DOZENS of far right militias that were trying to overthrow the government and the reason they never succeeded is because the FBI stopped them all
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Like sometime after Reagan got reelected the National Front and the Aryan Nations had this big meeting where they word for word declared war on the United States government.
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So from the words of a Marine SOF/JTAC officer... they will make contact with local community defense orgs first... set up agreements that the orgs restrict their operations to defensive operations only... and may possibly supply them with support if they cooperate.
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MisterStompy 4/14/2023 9:04 PM
But Robert Evans actually thinks that those guys are gonna team up with the ATF to kill him becauase he has anarkiddie brain
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Then they will infiltrate militias to determine if they are anti-Fed, or pro-genocide, or more like community defense orgs.
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Anti-fed and pro-genocide become targets.
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MisterStompy 4/14/2023 9:05 PM
Can't wait until I meet my NSA agent gf
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Or would it be DHS?
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Can't wait until I meet my NSA agent gf
I wonder if the NSA/FBI mistress they give me is going to balk at meeting my wife because we're poly.
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I wonder if the NSA/FBI mistress they give me is going to balk at meeting my wife because we're poly.
MisterStompy 4/14/2023 9:06 PM
Your safeword is the exact coordinates of your tannernite stash.
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Your safeword is the exact coordinates of your tannernite stash.
Naw... I'm a top we don't get safewords.
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That's a luxury of subs.
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I'm off to play Carrier Command 2... Have fun, hope your NSA GF is cute.
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Then they will infiltrate militias to determine if they are anti-Fed, or pro-genocide, or more like community defense orgs.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/14/2023 10:02 PM
I've heard it said that when collapse happens the US government would likely become willing to ally with, and even negotiate things like local autonomy with, certain anarchist and socialist groups in order to focus more on fighting the fascist groups that would inevitably crop up. Do you think that's true? Cause personally I'm... skeptical.
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I've heard it said that when collapse happens the US government would likely become willing to ally with, and even negotiate things like local autonomy with, certain anarchist and socialist groups in order to focus more on fighting the fascist groups that would inevitably crop up. Do you think that's true? Cause personally I'm... skeptical.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/14/2023 10:07 PM
Personally, I feel like that depends on how much law enforcement and military personnel side with the government.
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Because if they have enough manpower, they will just bulldoze anyone in the way of restoring order.
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But if enough people defect to various factions, they might be more willing to negotiate in order to avoid a prolonged conflict.
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Personally, I feel like that depends on how much law enforcement and military personnel side with the government.
Yea that's my view of it too.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/14/2023 10:18 PM
The former president called school shootings a “spiritual problem” and not a “gun problem” during a NRA speech on Friday
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/14/2023 10:22 PM
we already know what his conclusion will be
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Because if they have enough manpower, they will just bulldoze anyone in the way of restoring order.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/14/2023 10:26 PM
If the US government was able to muster all active duty personnel, all reserves including the entire national guard, and every LEO, that'd put them at a total of about 3 million iirc. However... it's definitely worth noting that a pretty substantial portion of the reserves and especially of the LEO's wouldn't exactly be in "fighting shape". In contrast, if we presume about 20% of Americans hold substantially radical or reactionary political views (which I think statistically is a lowball estimate) and of those about 25% are willing and able to fight, that would still have the government's forces outnumbered nearly 5 to 1. So even at that point, I don't know as though you could say definitively that they would bulldoze. I mean, it's certainly possible. A group of 5 trained combatants taking on 25 Larpers isn't that big of a challenge. But that does mean that it necessarily depends on exactly what level of discipline the insurgent populace is capable of bringing to the table.
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MisterStompy 4/14/2023 10:34 PM
In US speech, former PM says her economic policy faced resistance at home as well as ‘from the IMF, and even from President Biden’
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If the US government was able to muster all active duty personnel, all reserves including the entire national guard, and every LEO, that'd put them at a total of about 3 million iirc. However... it's definitely worth noting that a pretty substantial portion of the reserves and especially of the LEO's wouldn't exactly be in "fighting shape". In contrast, if we presume about 20% of Americans hold substantially radical or reactionary political views (which I think statistically is a lowball estimate) and of those about 25% are willing and able to fight, that would still have the government's forces outnumbered nearly 5 to 1. So even at that point, I don't know as though you could say definitively that they would bulldoze. I mean, it's certainly possible. A group of 5 trained combatants taking on 25 Larpers isn't that big of a challenge. But that does mean that it necessarily depends on exactly what level of discipline the insurgent populace is capable of bringing to the table.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/14/2023 10:47 PM
I feel I should clarify here, because in text this probably comes across as me being very sure of myself and argumentative as I say these things. I'm not. I'm not a vet, or a soldier, or anything of the sort. I'm a redneck MMA fighter with a fetish for math and horticulture (weird combo, I know). My only experiences fighting for my life, thank God, didn't involve firearms. They involved fists, knives, and blunt weapons, which aren't used as much when guns are in play. My closest experience to battle is shit like paintball and airsoft. So if anyone with real combat experience wants to correct me on this shit, please do. I'm happy to shut up and learn.
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I've heard it said that when collapse happens the US government would likely become willing to ally with, and even negotiate things like local autonomy with, certain anarchist and socialist groups in order to focus more on fighting the fascist groups that would inevitably crop up. Do you think that's true? Cause personally I'm... skeptical.
I know the military will be, from the horses mouth. They have a VERY effective strategy working with Indigenous Forces elsewhere, and it'll only be more effective when there isn't a language barrier. The basic rules they have are. Do not go on the offensive on your own. Focus on defense of your own territory and people. Do not make them look like shit for siding with you (fash shit). And if they ask for help they think you can provide you should make efforts to give it.
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But the military will have different priorities than the Federal government. Military will in an anti-insurrection action will. 1: Secure and defend military installations, and armories. 2: Secure and defend communications hubs. 3: Protect non-combatant civilians (these are their neighbors friends and family after-all). 4: Prevent offensive attacks on civilian support infrastructure (water, power, food distribution, sewage treatment etc.) 5: Identify hostile organizations to those above objectives. 6: Identify friendly organizations to those objectives. 7: Destroy hostile organizations. 8: Support friendly organizations. 9: Report everything to their chain of command.
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Probably in roughly that order of importance.
1:28 AM
This depends on the continuation of the neo-liberal/neo-con Federal government. If the radical right takes power, then I'll be honest I think the military would become so disorganized from resignations of flag officers and desertions of enlisted that it would cease to have any capacity to do anything of note.
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If the US government was able to muster all active duty personnel, all reserves including the entire national guard, and every LEO, that'd put them at a total of about 3 million iirc. However... it's definitely worth noting that a pretty substantial portion of the reserves and especially of the LEO's wouldn't exactly be in "fighting shape". In contrast, if we presume about 20% of Americans hold substantially radical or reactionary political views (which I think statistically is a lowball estimate) and of those about 25% are willing and able to fight, that would still have the government's forces outnumbered nearly 5 to 1. So even at that point, I don't know as though you could say definitively that they would bulldoze. I mean, it's certainly possible. A group of 5 trained combatants taking on 25 Larpers isn't that big of a challenge. But that does mean that it necessarily depends on exactly what level of discipline the insurgent populace is capable of bringing to the table.
Law Enforcement are not at all beholden to anyone but the municipality they serve. And even in that they do more or less whatever they want and only begrudgingly help FBI and DHS because they have to. They will protect the wealthy, they will likely extort every dollar they can from the poor. Of course in the form of citations to bolster local municipality revenue. So don't count the million or so LEOs... of course in rural areas they will absolutely be on the side of the insurrectionists... because they don't see themselves as such... they see themselves as saviors. (edited)
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Black Magic 4/15/2023 6:11 AM
I captured a confederate flag
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Explain?
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Black Magic 4/15/2023 11:16 AM
Nope! a local flew a confederate flag on his flag pole, and I relieved him of it.
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Not the first time i've done it; which is why I don't make posts about it
11:19 AM
Since it is literally theft and also doing ir is not something I want to recommend the kids try at home
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stand your ground and all
11:21 AM
One day I will post my collection
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so far it's four confederate flags, 2 nazi flsgs, 1 "don't tread on me" ( I don't target these, usually )
11:23 AM
collected over a period of about 5 years
11:26 AM
I had considered replacing one of these with something cheeky like BLM or pride flag; but decided I was already tempting fate enough. (edited)
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Anything to make them spend more money on Chinese imported flags.
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Black Magic 4/15/2023 11:38 AM
my contribution to the Keep City beautiful campaign
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Black Magic 4/15/2023 11:47 AM
Guilty of rambling.
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Black Magic 4/15/2023 12:26 PM
Got myself worked up again
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/15/2023 1:16 PM
I’m just gonna drop a real Spicey take here: If you’re political opinion is “Both Sides bad, don’t use the system” then you are the problem, and your are genuinely too stupid to be taken seriously on matters of politics, and have forfeit your right to be take seriously
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Because, and this might be a controversial opinions but both sides are most certainly not the same, and one is willing to take your side, they just think the other side is too powerful
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/15/2023 1:25 PM
The thing that allows European countries to have socialist and communist parties that actually do stuff is coalition politics, which we here in the American left suck at doing
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Because, and this might be a controversial opinions but both sides are most certainly not the same, and one is willing to take your side, they just think the other side is too powerful
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/15/2023 1:26 PM
I would like to add, however, that this doesn't mean your side is exempt from criticism. Politics is not a team sport, so don't play it like one.
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I would like to add, however, that this doesn't mean your side is exempt from criticism. Politics is not a team sport, so don't play it like one.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/15/2023 1:28 PM
Of course, this is mostly venting, because of a person I deal with in another discord who thinks you shouldn’t vote, and thinks the “Both sides bad” is a genuine political opinion
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I’m just gonna drop a real Spicey take here: If you’re political opinion is “Both Sides bad, don’t use the system” then you are the problem, and your are genuinely too stupid to be taken seriously on matters of politics, and have forfeit your right to be take seriously
AvoidOblivion 4/15/2023 1:49 PM
Remaining silent and not choosing a side is choosing the side of the oppressors.
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A side must be taken, even if it’s the wrong one.
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I’m just gonna drop a real Spicey take here: If you’re political opinion is “Both Sides bad, don’t use the system” then you are the problem, and your are genuinely too stupid to be taken seriously on matters of politics, and have forfeit your right to be take seriously
floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/15/2023 1:59 PM
That’s why I disagree with anti-electoralism. Even if it reinforces the system us anti-statists hate, it furthers the reactionary position.
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Both sides bad, but one side is significantly worse rn
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lesser evil is still evil but if you refuse to vote for the lesser evil, you enable the greater evil to take office
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Both sides bad, but one side is significantly worse rn
MisterStompy 4/15/2023 2:20 PM
b-b-but muh revolutionary crisis!
2:21 PM
(for those who don't know the German communist party in the late 20's and early 30's worked to help the Nazis take control of government because they thought it would jumpstart a "revolutionary crisis" which would lead to a communist revolt)
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(for those who don't know the German communist party in the late 20's and early 30's worked to help the Nazis take control of government because they thought it would jumpstart a "revolutionary crisis" which would lead to a communist revolt)
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/15/2023 2:30 PM
“B-b-b-ut mah SDP! They caused the Nazis because (incoherent rambles)!”
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Based on another person I know from a third discord
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“B-b-b-ut mah SDP! They caused the Nazis because (incoherent rambles)!”
MisterStompy 4/15/2023 2:30 PM
mfw I try to violently overthrow the government and get shot (time to work with the Nazis)
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mfw I try to violently overthrow the government and get shot (time to work with the Nazis)
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/15/2023 2:30 PM
They got REAL mad when I pointed that out
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b-b-but muh revolutionary crisis!
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/15/2023 2:33 PM
That's the thing, I don't want a revolutionary crisis. I want as peaceful a transition to socialism as possible. Revolutions are usually bloody and messy no matter how well-intentioned they are. (edited)
2:35 PM
That being said, if channeling my inner Frenchman/Blair Mountain miner is the only way to secure a better world, I will happily do it.
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That's the thing, I don't want a revolutionary crisis. I want as peaceful a transition to socialism as possible. Revolutions are usually bloody and messy no matter how well-intentioned they are. (edited)
MisterStompy 4/15/2023 2:35 PM
You'd get called a fascist by tons of self proclaimed communists because you don't want to slaughter a bunch of people in purges lmao
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BubsyFanboy 4/15/2023 2:35 PM
The body would be empowered to ban people from office if it found that they had acted under Russian influence to the detriment of Poland.
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You'd get called a fascist by tons of self proclaimed communists because you don't want to slaughter a bunch of people in purges lmao
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/15/2023 2:36 PM
More material for r/tankiejerk. lol
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking
“B-b-b-ut mah SDP! They caused the Nazis because (incoherent rambles)!”
Experienced that firsthand
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/15/2023 2:37 PM
There's a difference between "wanting a cause to fight for" and "wanting a cause to fight".
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Experienced that firsthand
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/15/2023 2:39 PM
Same
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Tried to use the insane line of "the SDP worked with the nazis" when all their """evidence""" either didn't involve the nazis, or they didn't even exist at the time
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/15/2023 2:44 PM
State Rep. Randy Fine's wife is hosting "an evening filled with sultry performers." There’s no mention of the event's excluding minors.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/15/2023 3:07 PM
To think we were this 🤏 close of hitler getting shot in the head like, before he gained power back in the beer hall putsch makes me so angry (edited)
3:08 PM
they should have gone for the center chest or the head
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I’m just gonna drop a real Spicey take here: If you’re political opinion is “Both Sides bad, don’t use the system” then you are the problem, and your are genuinely too stupid to be taken seriously on matters of politics, and have forfeit your right to be take seriously
That's right there with "I don't believe in science."
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That’s why I disagree with anti-electoralism. Even if it reinforces the system us anti-statists hate, it furthers the reactionary position.
It's one thing to acknowledge that electoralism is irrevocably corrupt and useless to further egalitarian ideals, and another to not acknowledge it's value at least in trying to limit damage.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/15/2023 6:05 PM
We are the poor and working class. We are the wretched huddled masses of the system that has passed us by. We do not stand against you as…
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/15/2023 8:27 PM
Tankies are so much fun to observe...
8:27 PM
So according to this guy japanese people are not Asian?
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also if the Chinese had kept up with the west, who knows what ungodly large empire they would hsve tried to build up
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also the Mughal Empire
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and the Monghol Empire
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and the other couple hundred empires that have risen and fallen in Asia
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/15/2023 8:30 PM
Isn't this the same country whose wars are infamous for their comically large casualty numbers?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/15/2023 8:32 PM
Victoria 2 is extremely accurate when it comes to the Chinese having over 600 fucking brigades all of a sudden made up of farmers and other poor people
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China literally mass murdered and destroyed like 6 sovereign nations to become China of today. They attempted to do so to Mongolia and failed because their reign of terror was even too much for USSR to condone.
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and the other couple hundred empires that have risen and fallen in Asia
The first imperialists were the Aryan tribes of Siberia who conquered India three times before they developed the Proto Hindu beliefs that finally pacified the indigenous people. For some reason they believed the whole elevate your caste through reincarnation bullshit.
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Incidentally, the same beliefs that has India refusing to make marital rape a crime, and that erode every previous effort to disestablish the caste system.
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MisterStompy 4/15/2023 9:21 PM
fucking "Irish Need Not Apply" shit right here https://twitter.com/BrookesTimes/status/1646448882014986241
My cartoon Thursday @TheTimes. Where the emphasis of Blarney Biden’s visit lies. `#JoeBiden #Ireland
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/15/2023 9:23 PM
lmfao
9:24 PM
the only war they got involved in and they still got buttfucked
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MisterStompy 4/15/2023 9:24 PM
Did you know that the Chinese Army helped set up farms to feed Vietnamese citizens after the devastation left by the Americans? It's true! Just look up "China Tong Chup Farm" to learn more!
9:26 PM
Me deciding to do a little trolling by going to the Indochina region and screaming "I LAY CLAIM TO PARACEL ISLANDS"
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MisterStompy 4/15/2023 9:35 PM
Attorney General Ashley Moody came up empty on a public records request about agreements the Reedy Creek Improvement District’s board made with Disney.
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fucking "Irish Need Not Apply" shit right here https://twitter.com/BrookesTimes/status/1646448882014986241
Irish people are White, so ethnic stereotyping of them is somehow considered okay to society at large Although, this really isn't that racist of a cartoon. It's just kinda cringe, and I don't get the message either. He was in the Republic anyways, not Northern Ireland
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Tankies are so much fun to observe...
This is too dumb for me to even attempt to comment on
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Me deciding to do a little trolling by going to the Indochina region and screaming "I LAY CLAIM TO PARACEL ISLANDS"
Tfw eight countries are fighting over uninhabited sand bars
9:38 PM
Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines are involved too
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Irish people are White, so ethnic stereotyping of them is somehow considered okay to society at large Although, this really isn't that racist of a cartoon. It's just kinda cringe, and I don't get the message either. He was in the Republic anyways, not Northern Ireland
its relatively safe and sane so far
9:51 PM
Keep in mind, the nazis next plan after they purged the jews, roma and other undesirables, was to purge "lesser Aryans"
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just saying, these fuckers aren't above demonizing the irish
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/15/2023 9:52 PM
yeah the plan really was 'kill everyone that isn't us' taken to the next level
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which would be interesting considering how high the Irish Diaspora is in America
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Aces high
which would be interesting considering how high the Irish Diaspora is in America
The reason they wanted to purge the Irish is because of the Moorish conquests of the Island after taking Spain. White Supremacists have since purged that from their history of Europe as utter nonsense... so that might not hold true anymore.
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for now
9:56 PM
the core problem with White supremacists is they are ALWAYS moving goal posts
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its why I think weaponizing in-fighting is a valid tactic with disinfo
9:57 PM
it makes more enemies then they could handle
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the core problem with White supremacists is they are ALWAYS moving goal posts
Very true. That said, the Irish fucked literally everyone regardless of origin after the diaspora... and even before... so if they did try to purge Irish blood... they wouldn't have many members left.
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exactly my point
10:00 PM
fuck, screw the amount of mixed race of irish descent (myself included), there's Irish Everywhere
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The reason they wanted to purge the Irish is because of the Moorish conquests of the Island after taking Spain. White Supremacists have since purged that from their history of Europe as utter nonsense... so that might not hold true anymore.
The Moors conquered Ireland?
10:02 PM
Ik if you look at the genes of Icelandic people, their matrilineal line is all Celtic/Irish origin and their patrilineal line is all Nordic/Scandinavian origin. It's interesting
10:02 PM
Another Celtic island
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Ireland #2
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and then the Vikings came
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TBF most anti-Irish hate tends to come from Britain (and the Reformation) but it runs deep
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It's mostly dead outside of Britain though
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The Moors conquered Ireland?
The theory is... when the moors conquered Spain, they intended to also Conquer the British Isles. The tale is the Moors got to slightly north of Dublin before the kingdoms of Celts banded together to defeat them. The moors also famously raped and pillaged anywhere they conquered, which is the basis of the theory behind why Irish descended from clans in the south tend to have darker curly hair and brown or hazel eyes. (edited)
10:12 PM
It would also explain why Basque genetics have been found among the Irish.
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MisterStompy 4/15/2023 10:25 PM
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/15/2023 10:28 PM
what the fuck
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did he....
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get replaced or something?
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Naw just narcissistic attack on a rival for what he sees as his due glory.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/15/2023 10:40 PM
Seems like he forgot to hit caps lock this time.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/15/2023 10:41 PM
lol
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the iranian regime is disgusting
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/16/2023 12:53 AM
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/16/2023 1:44 AM
Wake up babe, some insane asylum escapee posted something on twitter
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Where does one even begin to analyze this.......thing
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Least mentally unstable twirter user
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This is one of those images which if you try to analyze it, you legit lose your mind.
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I'm not gonna try.
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Wake up babe, some insane asylum escapee posted something on twitter
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/16/2023 1:47 AM
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/16/2023 1:47 AM
You know its bad when the Hammer and Syckle, the Monarchist flag and the Orthodox cross are in the same flag
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You know its bad when the Hammer and Syckle, the Monarchist flag and the Orthodox cross are in the same flag
Please, for the love of your sanity stop.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/16/2023 1:48 AM
I will
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Wake up babe, some insane asylum escapee posted something on twitter
1:58 AM
Time to exterminatus
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/16/2023 1:58 AM
Can we please, just....shut down twitter
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tbh at this point Musk is trying to
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tbh at this point Musk is trying to
And all because his baby momma left him for a woman.
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tbh at this point Musk is trying to
AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/16/2023 10:52 AM
The one good thing he is trying to do
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/16/2023 2:09 PM
New guidance from the Conservative government will see teachers forced to ‘out’ trans and non-binary pupils to their parents.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/16/2023 2:09 PM
that is just a next level of fucked
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what state
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/16/2023 2:15 PM
I'd also like to point out that Sunak at one point tried to classify "hate of Britain" as a terroristic threat.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/16/2023 2:17 PM
That's a bit foolish innit mate
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BubsyFanboy 4/16/2023 2:19 PM
Bundestag (German parliament) division of SPD: "Nuclear energy? Goodbye!" Żukowska (Lewica MP; Polish parliament): "Idiots."
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Wake up babe, some insane asylum escapee posted something on twitter
BubsyFanboy 4/16/2023 2:20 PM
Pretty sure this is trolling the guy with the Russian flag.
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what state
floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/16/2023 2:22 PM
all of britain
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Scotland, AGAIN:
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Scotland has trans folk protected btw
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the Brits tried to stop them, but Scotland is laying groundwork for independence and "burning the bridge" for their fuckery
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especially given the rules is Brit can't fuck with Scottish politics
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LONDON (Reuters) - The Scottish Government on Wednesday said it would seek a judicial review of the British government's decision to block a proposed Scottish law that makes it easier for people to change their legal gender. In January, the British government said it would block the Gender Recognition Reform Bill passed by the Scotland's devolve...
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Oh they figured out how to make the secession vote pass.
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MisterStompy 4/16/2023 4:59 PM
That happened about three days ago I think
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I believe the next change would be to change it from a popular vote to a referenda of counties. Where the majority in a county counts as one vote.
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I believe the next change would be to change it from a popular vote to a referenda of counties. Where the majority in a county counts as one vote.
MisterStompy 4/16/2023 5:02 PM
Electoral college but for state elections
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Yeah guys just make shit even more complex that'll go over real well
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It doesn't matter, Republicans outside of Texas would never let them secede even if they could because without Texas the Republicans never win another presidency
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The point would be to make Houston Dallas and Austin not matter when it comes to secession.
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It doesn't matter, Republicans outside of Texas would never let them secede even if they could because without Texas the Republicans never win another presidency
At that point it's moot. None of the Red states would remain in the Union.
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MisterStompy 4/16/2023 5:04 PM
idk I'm not too worried about it getting that far at all tbh, in about a month Texas will have another power outage and start begging for Federal funds and then Biden will make fun of them for it during a press conference
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Totally fair.
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MisterStompy 4/16/2023 5:13 PM
If I become a billionaire somehow I'll carpetbag places like Texas by paying tons of liberals and socdems and shit to move there so they can tip the scales every election
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Like everything the right blames George Soros for I would do irl
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At that point it's moot. None of the Red states would remain in the Union.
Until Texas gets invaded for Oil if the US even lets them leave
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Like everything the right blames George Soros for I would do irl
Based. I was just gonna buy every property in the mountain valley I'm in and gift the deeds to service industry workers for a sale price of a dollar. Drive the property value down.
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And then pay off the county and town commissioners to leave and never return. Ban all short term rentals.
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And then institute mutual aid programs via the county to cover all basic needs.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/16/2023 8:47 PM
There are two types of twitter schizos
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/16/2023 9:37 PM
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/16/2023 10:24 PM
I find Neville Chamberlain so pathetic its hilarious to me
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BubsyFanboy 4/17/2023 2:29 AM
Genocide stage 9
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BubsyFanboy 4/17/2023 2:30 AM
Would you look at that - yet another guy who believes in right unity on that left pic
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Its weird that they left the anarchist out on that one.
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Black Magic 4/17/2023 10:01 AM
I get a perverse laugh when I hear Cubans complain that Gautamalians are taking their jobs
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Oh damn we were talking serious stuff
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/17/2023 11:28 AM
liberals bruh 💀
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.... and he dares to use Ukraine as a supposed """example"""
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/17/2023 12:18 PM
Liberals when fascists decide to start killing everyone:
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Just keep voting blue guys.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/17/2023 12:44 PM
Florida Republican lawmaker Randy Fine has appeared to call for the eradication of all queer people, while defending his drag-ban bill.
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AvoidOblivion 4/17/2023 1:17 PM
The Department of Justice is holding a press conference to announce charges and arrests related to a "significant national security matter" Monday.
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The DOJ arrested two people involved in operating a Chinese Police Station in NYC. They operated troll farms, crashed online meetings, "repatriated" some, harassed Chinese people living in New York who spoke out against the CCP, and spread disinformation, among many other things.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/17/2023 5:17 PM
Oklahoma Gov. Kevin Stitt (R) has called for the McCurtain County sheriff and multiple county officials to resign after leaked audio showed the county leaders discussing killing local reporters and…
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Black Magic 4/17/2023 11:50 PM
I’ll say two things about the Chinese stuff
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1. The ccp is an ethnostate and it does some horrifically fucked up stuff so I absolutely believe they tried to run a state sponsored gang in NY
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2. War with China is seen by both sides as a when not an if. Be aware of that as anti-sino tensions get ratcheted up bit by bit
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So… even though it’s real, it’s also bullshit, and you have to somehow balance that in your understanding of events
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So… even though it’s real, it’s also bullshit, and you have to somehow balance that in your understanding of events
I did get the personal impression this was more politically to gear people towards this. The "secret police stations" have been open discussion for many years, but I thought the timing for them to crack down finally was ultra convenient.
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I did get the personal impression this was more politically to gear people towards this. The "secret police stations" have been open discussion for many years, but I thought the timing for them to crack down finally was ultra convenient.
When something like that happens they have to take a very long time to investigate and dot all I's and cross all T's. If it were Wa Ching that was operating these kinds of things they could be a little looser, but they have to not only prove the shit is happening, but also prove it's the CCP behind it. It's like the Trump Indictments... we all knew he was fucking corrupt as fuck, we knew he was bribing people to keep their mouth shut... but you gotta have an air tight case before you pull the trigger on it.
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Particularly since they only found evidence of them targeting Chinese nationals... that's a tricky situation. Gotta make damn sure they were violating the law and that it applies to them simply by occurring here... not against a citizen of the US.
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That being said... I'd hate to be a tankie finding out that their literal heros are operating openly in the US and don't give a fuck about helping them.
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That being said... I'd hate to be a tankie finding out that their literal heros are operating openly in the US and don't give a fuck about helping them.
That part is a little hilarious. I get DOJ doesn't exactly operate at the speed of light too. Still, to me it seems like there's something afoot. The "balloon" goof was pretty great at ramping up China angst, and there appears to be at least some real effort to psychologically condition folks to be adversarial to them. I believe there is a real impending threat to Taiwan and perhaps it is in the interest of certain factions that we as Americans are ready to jump in on a conflict. Even if I personally agree with Taiwan's self determination the willingness to fight isn't held by all Americans, but I see making this highly public as a way to "prime" folks otherwise on the fence.
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That part is a little hilarious. I get DOJ doesn't exactly operate at the speed of light too. Still, to me it seems like there's something afoot. The "balloon" goof was pretty great at ramping up China angst, and there appears to be at least some real effort to psychologically condition folks to be adversarial to them. I believe there is a real impending threat to Taiwan and perhaps it is in the interest of certain factions that we as Americans are ready to jump in on a conflict. Even if I personally agree with Taiwan's self determination the willingness to fight isn't held by all Americans, but I see making this highly public as a way to "prime" folks otherwise on the fence.
Doesn't take much to manufacture consent to fight China when the primary aggressor is China and US national identity is "Protecting the little guy from the big baddies." (regardless of how off the mark that really is) China does plenty of putting themselves in those shoes (big baddie) by constantly showboating their willingness to kill over Taiwan. I think they are patently unwilling to learn nuances of US psyche... kinda like GOP is. Their obvious propaganda being so stupidly far off the mark from their actions and threats. As if their propaganda arm doesn't talk to the shot callers. The balloon thing... I believe the US literally had the filter too high on the entire radar network, and someone finally went... are we sure we would be able to see one of their hypersonic missiles? Maybe we should turn down the filter... suddenly balloons. Why was that filter up in the first place? Commercial and civilian air traffic and NOAA weather balloons (which are shockingly common like daily from 80 different locations in the US alone)... clutters up the radar picture makes Air Traffic Controllers life a living hell.
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Still it's useful to make sure everyone knows how fucking shitty the CCP is. So yeah, they make a point of highlighting just how shitty China is to it's people and everyone else.
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Side note, I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that CCP is telling all Chinese that the US is making that whole thing up to ensure their people don't believe it.
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@floppunism [BOI, ID] Ah, there's Michael Knowles statement catching on. I fucking dare anyone to claim he wasn't calling for genocide. Stupid cunts like Fine are picking up that thread as planned.
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@floppunism [BOI, ID] Ah, there's Michael Knowles statement catching on. I fucking dare anyone to claim he wasn't calling for genocide. Stupid cunts like Fine are picking up that thread as planned.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/18/2023 8:36 AM
what’d he say again?
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"We must eliminate transgenderism from all levels of society".
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BuT iT's NoT gEnOcIDe!
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/18/2023 8:38 AM
ohhh
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The excuse is that it's "the idea" of transgender people, and not a call for murder, but it clearly is. Fine is just stating the obvious. Knowles is the guy who is getting invited by YAF college groups.
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Side note, I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that CCP is telling all Chinese that the US is making that whole thing up to ensure their people don't believe it.
That assessment seems 100% correct. From what I've been able to listen in on it seems CCP is playing it way down as Americans overreacting. Media there is such that they don't even bring up if it was actually spying or not and instead focus on our stereotypical need to shoot problems.
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those beards 💀
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Just makin' up words like 13 year old girls up in this mf'r.
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Now it's transtifa.
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Which ngl sounds based as fuck.
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"Yo!!! It's the Transtifa Brigade!!! Fuck yeah!!! Go get those phobic fucks!!!"
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/18/2023 1:05 PM
The beards of cousin-fuckers.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/18/2023 1:29 PM
Jebbediah and Moses got out of the amish community
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BubsyFanboy 4/18/2023 1:50 PM
His fuckin beard is weird
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(felt like doing a music reference)
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But yes, that is a real choice.
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AvoidOblivion 4/18/2023 3:56 PM
GOP-backed bill would criminalize drag performances in North Carolina, proposing possible felony charges for public and sometimes private shows.
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MisterStompy 4/18/2023 5:05 PM
Ralph Yarl will survive but the man who shot him is apparently on the run https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1648107940950290434
NEW: The Clay County prosecutor has charged 84-year-old Andrew Lester in the shooting of Ralph Yarl, a 16-year-old Black boy in Kansas City who went to the wrong address to pick up his siblings last week. The prosecutor announced that Lester has been charged with first-degree…
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Also a trade unionist helped keep him alive until an ambulance showed up https://twitter.com/UnionDrip/status/1648121894565212160
Respect to our brother James Lynch from Operating Engineers Local 101 for aiding Ralph Yarl until the ambulance came. May Ralph and his family find justice.
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Kansas City man charged in Ralph Yarl shooting has surrendered - The Kansas City Star https://t.co/KTGJTFMfwJ
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The man who has been accused of shooting 16-year-old Ralph Yarl has turned himself in to authorities.  The sheriff’s office for Clay County, Mo., tweeted on Tuesday that Andrew Lester, a white…
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Ralph Yarl will survive but the man who shot him is apparently on the run https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1648107940950290434
floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/18/2023 5:25 PM
he looks exactly how i fucking expected him to
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MisterStompy 4/18/2023 6:23 PM
This is disgusting textbook predation of underage boys. And Nick Fuentes was in on it. #NickKnew “In exchange for recanting his accusation, [Nick] Fuentes and [Ali] Alexander offered to get him a job in politics.” @FBI should investigate. https://t.co/prvdViu2iZ
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/18/2023 8:57 PM
So I took the 8 values test again and uh...
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/18/2023 9:05 PM
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Welcome to the Free Socialist club. We have cookies.
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Welcome to the Free Socialist club. We have cookies.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/18/2023 9:09 PM
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no political test can be as complex and nuanced as it needs to be to truly explain someone's positions, but I like them anyways
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they're fun
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and generally accurate
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Eat all you want, we'll bake more, there's always someone in the collective who loves to bake.
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is this a political position
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Eat all you want, we'll bake more, there's always someone in the collective who loves to bake.
What do they want in return for the cookies
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Same results as the last guy basically lol
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Go join the collective
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is this a political position
AvoidOblivion 4/18/2023 9:16 PM
Not as good as the Chocolate Chocolate Chip position.
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no political test can be as complex and nuanced as it needs to be to truly explain someone's positions, but I like them anyways
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/18/2023 9:17 PM
To be fair, Libertarian Socialism is a very broad banner which encompasses some forms of democratic socialism. (edited)
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Neat.
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What do they want in return for the cookies
That's not how things work in a collective. People who love to bake, bake. People who love to garden, garden. People who love to code, code. People do what they love to do and the product of their labor is gifted to the others.
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If no one loves doing something that needs to be done, everyone does a part of it that they can so it is shared among them all.
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Like I don't know personally anyone that loves taking out the trash... not that there isn't a person who does... but assuming there isn't everyone takes a turn doing it so it gets done.
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That's not how things work in a collective. People who love to bake, bake. People who love to garden, garden. People who love to code, code. People do what they love to do and the product of their labor is gifted to the others.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/19/2023 12:27 AM
exactly this. i’m an EMT not because i want something material in return (if i wanted that i’d work literally anywhere else, mcdonald’s pays more) because what i get in return is knowing that i at least tried to alleviate someone’s suffering
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capitalism has fouled our minds with the idea of exchange being omnipresent
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it doesn’t have to be
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you can just accept what someone gives you and the smile they see on your face would be all the payment in the world
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2016, 2020 Presidential election maps (edited)
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2012 was the same
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2008 had some Dem counties
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House is R 89–11 D Senate is R 31–3 D Both federal Representatives are Dems, Senators are split 1 Dem and 1 Republican
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and the Dem is Joe Manchin
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BubsyFanboy 4/19/2023 7:06 AM
Shops have exploited loopholes in the law to remain open on Sundays by offering reading clubs, travel services or sports equipment rental.
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Bro went to the lego store and chose violence, fucking pathetic
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mossouri mad a transgender list
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spam it
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/19/2023 1:38 PM
So the Florida legislature kidnapped a bunch of non-binary and trans kids today. They refused to let them out and they refused to let the parents in to get them. We are officially there folks
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Yeah, the person at the end is right. It's time to either make a get the fuck out plan or to enact a get the fuck out plan. Particularly parents of trans kids, but trans-folk in general.
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AvoidOblivion 4/19/2023 1:47 PM
My blood was boiling just watching that. I have to commend those parents for not punching their child's kidnappers.
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SonitusInanis 4/19/2023 1:50 PM
Seconded on the boiling blood. This shit is infuriating
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3rd. They're mad-drunk on power
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AvoidOblivion 4/19/2023 1:52 PM
I want to commit so many crimes right now. But I will not. They need to face justice.
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Yup, wish we could trust the cops but... this is FL we are talking about
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There's cops, and then there's Florida cops (edited)
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Is kid napping a federal crime? Or do you need to cross borders for that
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/19/2023 1:54 PM
Just... why?
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Is kid napping a federal crime? Or do you need to cross borders for that
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Is kid napping a federal crime? Or do you need to cross borders for that
AvoidOblivion 4/19/2023 1:54 PM
Considering it's government workers kidnapping a large amount of children, I hope it is a federal crime the FBI gets involved in.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/19/2023 1:54 PM
I think this is plain and simple kidnapping
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Considering it's government workers kidnapping a large amount of children, I hope it is a federal crime the FBI gets involved in.
Nope still state.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/19/2023 1:55 PM
some motherfuckers seriously need to get shot over in florida
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AvoidOblivion 4/19/2023 1:55 PM
Each and every parent needs to file a federal lawsuit against each legislator in that building, every security guard working there, every single person involved. (edited)
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Each and every parent needs to file a federal lawsuit against each legislator in that building, every security guard working there, every single person involved. (edited)
Civil suits always start at the state level and only appeal eventually to federal.
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Unless one of the parties is a branch or department of the Federal government. (edited)
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The entire system is designed to protect the government from the people. There is no means of reform, never has been.
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AvoidOblivion 4/19/2023 1:59 PM
Remember, everyone: The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.
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Remember, everyone: The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.
And they don't have to identify as Nazi's to be such.
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Is it illegal to arrest a minor for something like disturbing the peace and not release them to their parents upon demand?
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At least in Florida
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Robert Kennedy jr is primarying Biden
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Robert Kennedy jr is primarying Biden
what?
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i need a source
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i need a source
SonitusInanis 4/19/2023 3:10 PM
Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the nephew of former President John F. Kennedy and a prominent anti-vaccine activist, announced on Wednesday that he will run for president as a Democrat in 2024. The news of…
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whats his economic policy?
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Black Magic 4/19/2023 3:39 PM
"The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers".
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Florida will be subject to alot of brain drain if these policies stand
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No young woman is going to want to stay in Florida, no corporation will want to move to Florida.
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Who would do business in a state that randomly threatens to open a prison next to your business
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Black Magic 4/19/2023 3:46 PM
I don't like Cohen; but yea, It was predictable.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/19/2023 3:57 PM
she looks fucking deranged
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she looks fucking deranged
I mean you'd have to be to work for DeSatan.
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Black Magic 4/19/2023 4:18 PM
I may never forgive the DEMs for charlie christ
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/19/2023 6:59 PM
...the "kink at pride" discussion this year is going to be horrendous
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...the "kink at pride" discussion this year is going to be horrendous
Fucking whitewashed capitalized fucking pride bullshit. As if the whole fucking basis for pride wasn't Transwomen, drag queens, and Gay Leather fighting fucking pigs in the streets.
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...the "kink at pride" discussion this year is going to be horrendous
Blahaj Blaster 4/19/2023 7:14 PM
My existence is a kink to some people -_-
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Ron DeSantis ally & GOP donor, Kent Stermon, committed suicide, shortly after the father of a minor he tried to exploit turned down a five-figure hush money deal & reported Stermon to the police.
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Why does this keep happening? Is there smth that causes pedophiles to be right wingers and/or vice versa?
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Why does this keep happening? Is there smth that causes pedophiles to be right wingers and/or vice versa?
Protection
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Why does this keep happening? Is there smth that causes pedophiles to be right wingers and/or vice versa?
I think @archon is right, but I think it goes deeper than that. There has always been a long history of the most authoritative individuals being the most likely to commit acts like that, they use the authoritative position to shield themselves from accusation... "I can't possibly be a pedo... I would kill them all if I had the chance." They do end up gravitating to the same side because of their authoritarian positions and eventually their secret is outed among the other members, who incidentally have their own skeletons to keep in the closet, so they cover one another's ass so they don't get exposed themselves for their shit.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/19/2023 7:49 PM
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/19/2023 7:59 PM
OH I WONDER WHY
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Why does this keep happening? Is there smth that causes pedophiles to be right wingers and/or vice versa?
"pedocon" people call it
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Pedo conservatism
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Pedo conservatism
AvoidOblivion 4/19/2023 10:35 PM
So just regular conservatism? Just plain old Conservative Christianity?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/19/2023 10:39 PM
welp
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let's fix that, shall we?
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this tankie assumed i was pro america because im from the US
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Black Magic 4/20/2023 12:14 AM
I think you're kind of an idiot if you're not pro-american with a couple-dozen asterisks.
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I think you're kind of an idiot if you're not pro-american with a couple-dozen asterisks.
well hes still an idiotic weirdo for making such assumptions
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well hes still an idiotic weirdo for making such assumptions
The only people I've seen make such accusations are tankies
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The only people I've seen make such accusations are tankies
thats my experience
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@archon @zim It's what they do. It's what they have done since the Spanish Civil War, and in Ukraine before that. It's all tankies can do... villainize those who aren't them.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/20/2023 1:12 AM
And sometimes those who are them but just "not enough".
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As the Kronstadt sailors can attest. (edited)
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Ask any commune who dared demand their fair portion of the production of labor. Can't have counter revolutionaries fucking up your power grab now can you?
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The only group that others people better, are capitalists. (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/20/2023 8:48 AM
BREAKING: The Texas House has approved a bill outlawing virtually all city and county worker protections. Under the bill, any local measures that go beyond state law—i.e., sick benefits, wage protections, even water breaks for construction workers—will be overturned and barred.
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Texas law also forbids strikes and stoppages.
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BubsyFanboy 4/20/2023 9:56 AM
Yet another fascist check - no respect for labor unions
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2. War with China is seen by both sides as a when not an if. Be aware of that as anti-sino tensions get ratcheted up bit by bit
DevilTheAutopoet 4/20/2023 1:23 PM
Yes and no. The thing is, everyone on both sides kinda assumes that it will happen, but also nobody on either side wants it to happen. So they give themselves pretty much every "out" that they possibly can. For example, that's why the official US policy on whether we'll step in if China invades Taiwan is "Maybe we will, maybe we won't."
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DevilTheAutopoet 4/20/2023 2:25 PM
In practice that basically just means workers in Texas are now only protected by federal law. Afaik, Texas has no additional workers' protections beyond those required by federal law.
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In practice that basically just means workers in Texas are now only protected by federal law. Afaik, Texas has no additional workers' protections beyond those required by federal law.
Not Texas, but Dallas and Harris Counties did IIRC.
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Galveston had some specific rules regarding tipped workers that went above Federal rules.
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Not Texas, but Dallas and Harris Counties did IIRC.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/20/2023 4:58 PM
Right, but under this new law, those will be revoked. It says that the state-level protections will apply universally within the state, and no further protections at the local level will apply anymore. Since Texas as a state has protections for workers beyond those that are federally mandated, this functionally reduces the protections for all workers in the state of Texas to only those that exist at the federal level. That's what I was trying to say.
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Right, but under this new law, those will be revoked. It says that the state-level protections will apply universally within the state, and no further protections at the local level will apply anymore. Since Texas as a state has protections for workers beyond those that are federally mandated, this functionally reduces the protections for all workers in the state of Texas to only those that exist at the federal level. That's what I was trying to say.
Yep, big govment is bad except for big state gov... Big fed gov is bad, big local gov is bad. FML
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Yep, big govment is bad except for big state gov... Big fed gov is bad, big local gov is bad. FML
DevilTheAutopoet 4/20/2023 7:07 PM
Also, only when "big gubment" refers to things like civil rights, workers rights, social programs, schools, infrastructure, healthcare, or anything that actually makes people's lives better. But things like police militarization, the surveillance state, the military industrial complex, and the prison industrial complex? "That's not big gubment! That's protecting our freedom!"
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Also, only when "big gubment" refers to things like civil rights, workers rights, social programs, schools, infrastructure, healthcare, or anything that actually makes people's lives better. But things like police militarization, the surveillance state, the military industrial complex, and the prison industrial complex? "That's not big gubment! That's protecting our freedom!"
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DevilTheAutopoet 4/20/2023 7:12 PM
It's always insane to me when I look at American history and see just the sheer volume of points where things could've happened that would've put us on a much better trajectory... but then they didn't. Like the stars practically had to align in the perfect way to put us in the shitty timeline we're in.
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Granted, things could also have been horrifyingly worse. See our conversation about the timeline where France sold the Louisiana territory to Stephen F. Austin.
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It's always insane to me when I look at American history and see just the sheer volume of points where things could've happened that would've put us on a much better trajectory... but then they didn't. Like the stars practically had to align in the perfect way to put us in the shitty timeline we're in.
I swear on the great mother bear that saved my ass from dying from exposure this is not the timeline I began in.
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Who's Austin?
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Who's Austin?
Stephen F. Austin?
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More or less the reason Texas is what it is... particularly all the bad. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_F._Austin
Stephen Fuller Austin (November 3, 1793 – December 27, 1836) was an American-born empresario. Known as the "Father of Texas" and the founder of Anglo Texas, he led the second and, ultimately, the successful colonization of the region by bringing 300 families and their slaves from the United States to the Tejas region of Mexico in 1825. Born in V...
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There are few people who's entire family lines should be erased from existence for the crimes of their ancestors. But the line of his sister and the families of the original 200 colonists and "The Old Three Hundred" should absolutely be eradicated and their history only placed in the annals of history under Genocidal Fucks who stole everything they got. (edited)
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Oh god... thanks
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Oh for the love of christ, why us?!
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Oh for the love of christ, why us?!
I mean... Virginia. Why else?
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.... sighs We really are the menace of 19th century America, huh?
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.... sighs We really are the menace of 19th century America, huh?
I mean... yeah.
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There are few people who's entire family lines should be erased from existence for the crimes of their ancestors. But the line of his sister and the families of the original 200 colonists and "The Old Three Hundred" should absolutely be eradicated and their history only placed in the annals of history under Genocidal Fucks who stole everything they got. (edited)
AvoidOblivion 4/20/2023 8:30 PM
Do the "200 colonists and 'The Old Three Hundred'" refer to Mayflower colonists? If so, I'd like to avoid the purge of those lines if possible. I may be related to Stephen Hopkins, but I want nothing to do with the crimes against humanity he partook in and those of many of his descendents. (edited)
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Arguably one of the best things he did was allow men to drink alcohol in his tavern on Sundays.
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MisterStompy 4/20/2023 8:38 PM
Whose the mouse stopping Ron's fascist tyranny? M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E https://www.newsweek.com/ron-desantis-disney-tourism-board-utilities-1795525
The Central Florida Tourism Oversight District revealed a Disney subsidiary negotiated an agreement allowing Disney to set its utility rates until 2032.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/20/2023 8:39 PM
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/20/2023 9:01 PM
Stompy are you secretly an agent of tbe definately still alive in an undetground bunker Walt Disney?
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(He is)
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Stompy are you secretly an agent of tbe definately still alive in an undetground bunker Walt Disney?
MisterStompy 4/20/2023 9:02 PM
I know the reason Pixar doesn't wanna go independent. We'll leave it at that.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/20/2023 9:05 PM
Lmfao (edited)
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MisterStompy 4/20/2023 9:28 PM
I'm just waiting for him to be stripped of his parental rights after he tries to marry off his daughter to a 40 year old or something. https://www.mediamatters.org/matt-walsh/youtube-strips-ad-revenue-matt-walsh-show-after-repeated-vitriol-against-dylan-mulvaney
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/20/2023 9:34 PM
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Black Magic 4/20/2023 9:58 PM
Happy 420
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Do the "200 colonists and 'The Old Three Hundred'" refer to Mayflower colonists? If so, I'd like to avoid the purge of those lines if possible. I may be related to Stephen Hopkins, but I want nothing to do with the crimes against humanity he partook in and those of many of his descendents. (edited)
DevilTheAutopoet 4/20/2023 10:30 PM
It refers to the various empressario families who came to Texas in the early 1800's to buy massive tracts of land for cheap so that they could set up slave plantations there. (edited)
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It refers to the various empressario families who came to Texas in the early 1800's to buy massive tracts of land for cheap so that they could set up slave plantations there. (edited)
AvoidOblivion 4/20/2023 10:35 PM
Thanks for the info. And thank you to @Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy for the link.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/20/2023 11:49 PM
Florida lawmakers have passed legislation backed by Gov. Ron DeSantis that would permit the death penalty for those convicted of sexually abusing children.
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Not long
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BubsyFanboy 4/21/2023 4:35 AM
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Deleted User 4/21/2023 4:39 AM
we can murder politicians now?
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we can murder politicians now?
The state can. This is a license for Florida state to kill homosexuals and transfolk.
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Deleted User 4/21/2023 4:43 AM
when do i get to kill ppl no fair
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AvoidOblivion 4/21/2023 7:38 AM
The conservative author said abortion bans should only apply to Republicans as she ramps up attacks on procedure restrictions.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/21/2023 8:13 AM
That’s simultaneously the dumbest and most brilliant idea I’ve ever seen
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BubsyFanboy 4/21/2023 8:54 AM
These are the people who voted against or abstained from calling for universal decriminalisation of homosexuality in light of Uganda's hardline anti-LGBTQI+ bill. (edited)
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In more tidbits about RFKJr. Amaryllis Fox and Gavin de Becker are both playing a part in RFKJr's Campaign. Fox spent 8 years undercover for the CIA posing as an Art Dealer working on counterterrorist activities (that we know of). Gavin De Becker's company is the leading personal security contractor for the wealthiest elite in the nation. This isn't looking good for proving my synopsis of our shithole timeline wrong. https://twitter.com/gumby4christ/status/1648773686655057928?s=20
In his speech today announcing his run for the presidency, RFK Jr. reveals that former CIA officer Amaryllis Fox (who also happens to be his daughter-in-law) is "one of the top officers on [his] campaign."
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/21/2023 12:10 PM
Bit of a rant here but "That's just how it is." is, in my opinion, the "I was just following orders." of politics.
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If that's "how it is" and it's fundamentally wrong, should you not fight to change and/or stop it?
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Just as you should disobey an order that seems fundamentally wrong?
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Either way, it's a lousy excuse to justify inaction.
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MisterStompy 4/21/2023 12:35 PM
GET FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKED
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/21/2023 12:56 PM
It was an honor and a privilege to troll the government with you all.
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That’s simultaneously the dumbest and most brilliant idea I’ve ever seen
DevilTheAutopoet 4/21/2023 1:17 PM
I mean... it's not even unprecedented actually. For example a lot of Muslim countries have Sharia Law but it's only enforced for Muslims. Everyone else just has to follow the secular laws.
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It was an honor and a privilege to troll the government with you all.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/21/2023 1:20 PM
We are proud of our Trolling Service
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MisterStompy
GET FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKED
We did it fellas
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As long as it isn't abused, it's based. But given that this is DeSantis... We'll have to see if they're gonna try to abuse it (edited)
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I kept reporting the AG for fascism and Hawley for impersonating a man.
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GET FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKED
Black Magic 4/21/2023 4:43 PM
I sent a few dozen forms in as Ron Desantis reporting transsexual thoughts.
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I sent a few dozen forms in as Ron Desantis reporting transsexual thoughts.
The MO governor is most certainly abusing testosterone injections in an attempt to pass as a man.
5:08 PM
I might have also accused him of getting a double mastectomy.
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Black Magic 4/21/2023 5:24 PM
Is it transphobic if we're trolling transphobes? I'll let someone else figure that out.
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Dr_Diskette 4/21/2023 5:47 PM
What the actual fuck
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Bring in the fake phone numbers
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Dr_Diskette
What the actual fuck
floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/21/2023 6:01 PM
thought it went down?
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Dr_Diskette 4/21/2023 6:02 PM
It did but I just saw it now lol
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/21/2023 6:14 PM
Let’s do it again
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MisterStompy 4/21/2023 7:17 PM
BREAKING: Supreme Court stays order banning mifepristone. This means mifepristone remains 100% legal and accessible in states where it is legal. Thomas and Alito dissent. https://t.co/Fmn64gkbOS
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MisterStompy 4/21/2023 8:09 PM
Thomas Robb, The Leader of The KKK, Has died at the age of 77.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/21/2023 8:17 PM
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the court realize that unlike DeSantis, trying to fight a corpo with money to burn, in this case, big Pharma, would be a bad BAD idea
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especially big pharma
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pretty sure they've killed people
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not in overdose way either (edited)
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like actually whacking people like a mafia
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LessthanLoneWolf 4/21/2023 8:58 PM
Fuck yeah! Now to “water” his grave
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here ya go
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to start
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There's like 20 KKK leaders, why do they call him "The Leader of the KKK"
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Either way this is a certified packwatch moment
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Florida lawmakers have been accused of kidnapping trans kids after a defiant protest against anti-trans laws in the House of Representatives.
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oy, we got a John Brown club in Florida, time for a march
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I don't get it. Ppl will do shit at protests that is illegal and then cry that they're the victim when they get arrested. But part of the point of protesting is that you know the potential consequences of your actions, but deem the laws you're protesting to be so unjust that it is worth facing these consequences in order to fight them (edited)
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that's not the point
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the point is, Florida legalized kidnapping trans kids
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and they are intentionally harassing and terrifying them
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hence why I say bring in Pink pistols or John Browners
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cops don't fuck around when they are surrounded by guns
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Idk I'm focused on some stupid shit instead of the main issue
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/21/2023 11:01 PM
The poll also shows Trump beating DeSantis 51% to 38% among likely Republican primary voters in a hypothetical matchup.
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Black Magic 4/21/2023 11:19 PM
Funny, they want to be told they are fighting woke... but they hate all of the anti-woke stuff that gets done
11:20 PM
Because the modern right wing doesn't have any actual ideals.
11:20 PM
they have a fog of believes.
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Black Magic 4/22/2023 12:35 AM
It’s deeply ironic that the party that so loaves democracy is internally more democratic than democrats
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Trump is the legit choice of knuckle heads the nation over.
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By contrast the position of the DNC is “ you will get who we give you , and you’ll like it.”
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Also. This will be the end of desantis career 😂 he can’t run for governor again and trump is going to crush his nuts. The Florida senators seats are filled too
12:42 AM
So his career path going forward will like like gullioni’s probably
12:44 AM
Than again who knows. Tallahassee might change the laws to make him governor for life
12:45 AM
Or his Allies might straight up merc trump, or trump might just keel over
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If Trump gets merc, you get a fucking gop civil war
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/22/2023 12:13 PM
Concerned citizens armed with fanfiction and the "Bee Movie" script took down a government-run website in Missouri.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/22/2023 1:51 PM
I saw that earlier; I’m glad my Navy Seal copy pasta spam contributed
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Black Magic 4/22/2023 5:10 PM
Missouri AG knows alot about the transsexual feeling Ron Desantis has at night
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/22/2023 5:20 PM
And all that makeup Donnie wears.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/23/2023 1:38 AM
What the fuck?
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BubsyFanboy 4/23/2023 9:36 AM
Guessing some bullies
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Or edgelords who find this hilarious.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
What the fuck?
AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/23/2023 9:38 AM
My golden rule normally sticks to not harm children but these types of times it is completely fine by me to bring out the shin breaker and the kidney stealer
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
What the fuck?
AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/23/2023 9:38 AM
ALSO WHY IN MY FAVORITE CITY FFS
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
What the fuck?
1:25 PM
real talk tho, my city has a similar issue (nobody's flesh used as a cutting board yet) but definitely people making fun of black kids with some racist shit. (without giving it away, there's a lawsuit at my city's school district over this and its all over local news) I told my stepdad's grandson (he's afro-Hispanic) that if anyone starts shit with him, tell me who they are and I would no hesitation beat their ass. With a paddle
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I ain't one for much physical punishment. This shit is the exception
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I honestly have no idea how I would want to handle this if something like it happened in a collective. But I do know that whatever choice would determine the lasting fate of said collective.
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If it was an adult who did something like that, I'd advocate for a beating into a hospital and exile. But a kid... Godsdamn.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/23/2023 2:43 PM
They can learn, but there are some people that simply don't want to learn
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/23/2023 2:53 PM
What is a historical figure that you would go back in time and Kill? outside of the obvious bunch this time, we all wanna kill Hitler, Stalin and or Mao, but what are some other less hated figures you would go to and give the JFK/Trotsky treatment too? in my top 3 is Beria Woodrow Wilson Third spot is in a Tie between Oskar Dirlewanger and Stepan Bandera
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/23/2023 2:54 PM
i watched death of stalin last night so 100% beria
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/23/2023 2:55 PM
You still get two shots floppa, cmon, tell me who you want to waste
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or two more ice pickaxes if thats more of your taste
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/23/2023 2:58 PM
reagan and hitler
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oh you already said hitler i’m dumb
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/23/2023 2:58 PM
Lol
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kond of tbe point
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/23/2023 2:59 PM
idk for a third tbh
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OHHH
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jefferson davis
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/23/2023 3:06 PM
lemme look him up
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OH
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the traitor
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Cunt was also Virginian so I'd gladly join you flop
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What is a historical figure that you would go back in time and Kill? outside of the obvious bunch this time, we all wanna kill Hitler, Stalin and or Mao, but what are some other less hated figures you would go to and give the JFK/Trotsky treatment too? in my top 3 is Beria Woodrow Wilson Third spot is in a Tie between Oskar Dirlewanger and Stepan Bandera
AvoidOblivion 4/23/2023 3:13 PM
That's a tough question. I'll agree with Flopp: Jeff Davis is in my top 3. After that, an unexpected one: Conrad von Hötzendorf. He's the Austrian who tricked and manipulated Austria-Hungary and its leaders into declaring war on Serbia. Emperor Franz Joseph had no plans or desire to enter into a war, but Conrad's trickery and burning desire for war caused WWI. Without the first world war happening when it did, 15-20 million people would not die in the war; Hitler would never rise to power in the interwar period, inspired and angered by the Great War; Russia would not collapse into revolution as soon as it did, meaning the Soviets would not have the same government we know; and WWII would never have happened in the way it did, meaning over 100 million lives would not be lost in wars directly and indirectly caused by WWI. In this universe, because of the lack of a Jeff Davis, Woodrow Wilson would likely never have been elected. But if he is, I will add him onto my list. (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/23/2023 3:14 PM
Honestly Woodrow Wilson will ALWAYS be on my list
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/23/2023 3:15 PM
I'll add Rutherford Hayes for being the prick that stopped Reconstruction.
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That's a tough question. I'll agree with Flopp: Jeff Davis is in my top 3. After that, an unexpected one: Conrad von Hötzendorf. He's the Austrian who tricked and manipulated Austria-Hungary and its leaders into declaring war on Serbia. Emperor Franz Joseph had no plans or desire to enter into a war, but Conrad's trickery and burning desire for war caused WWI. Without the first world war happening when it did, 15-20 million people would not die in the war; Hitler would never rise to power in the interwar period, inspired and angered by the Great War; Russia would not collapse into revolution as soon as it did, meaning the Soviets would not have the same government we know; and WWII would never have happened in the way it did, meaning over 100 million lives would not be lost in wars directly and indirectly caused by WWI. In this universe, because of the lack of a Jeff Davis, Woodrow Wilson would likely never have been elected. But if he is, I will add him onto my list. (edited)
floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/23/2023 3:16 PM
I was considering Gavrilo Princip but WW1 de-monarchized Europe
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/23/2023 3:16 PM
When I go back to the states in december, one of you needs to fly me out to wherever wilson's gravr is
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I'm going to fucking piss on it
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I was considering Gavrilo Princip but WW1 de-monarchized Europe
AvoidOblivion 4/23/2023 3:16 PM
It did, but it also created Hitler, gave a chance for the Bolsheviks to take over, and killed countless scores.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/23/2023 3:16 PM
kek
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that’s very fair
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When I go back to the states in december, one of you needs to fly me out to wherever wilson's gravr is
AvoidOblivion 4/23/2023 3:17 PM
I'd say it was the first public restroom in the United States, but I think that honor goes to Jefferson Davis. Or perhaps even Stonewall.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/23/2023 3:17 PM
I'll be in las vegas for my 18th birthday, you guys need to fly me to his grave
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I wanna start adulthood well
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/23/2023 3:19 PM
Josef Mengele is another one.
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Don't think I have to say why.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/23/2023 3:20 PM
Yep
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We may have different nazis we want to kill, but we both wanna kill very evil nazis
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I wanna start adulthood well
floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/23/2023 3:53 PM
y'ain't gonna be able to get into many places in vegas at 18 lmao
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/23/2023 3:53 PM
Quite literally there just to shoot guns lmao
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/23/2023 3:53 PM
ah
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/23/2023 3:54 PM
Hey I'll figure out what I can and can't do there
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plus
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i gotta get that flight to wherever his grave is
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Enjoy some of the legal greenery down that way while your there.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/23/2023 5:02 PM
eh
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never liked alcohol/smoke related stuff
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Sad truth is that I don't think non-existing folks makes much difference... McKinley was absolutely worthy of being on such a list, but his death actually had a negative effect on labor rights and egalitarian ideals.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 4/23/2023 5:54 PM
Common Oli London L
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AvoidOblivion 4/23/2023 6:32 PM
That “all do respect” is annoying me more than it should.
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Sad truth is that I don't think non-existing folks makes much difference... McKinley was absolutely worthy of being on such a list, but his death actually had a negative effect on labor rights and egalitarian ideals.
How so? Didn't his death result in the presidency of Theodore Roosevelt
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/23/2023 7:23 PM
he has no grounds to comment on anything
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 4/23/2023 7:24 PM
Like bro aint no way OLI LONDON think he has room to talk
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/23/2023 7:24 PM
he seriously does not
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i honestly thought he would have been supportive
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I forgot he existed
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He tried to make himself Korean and was never heard from again (for me)
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after the entire world laughed at him for about a week or so a few years back
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/23/2023 7:38 PM
yeah
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oh shit I just got the memory of another weirdo who changed his race
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some dude from NY or NJ i don't remember that well
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he went from white to black
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and started spouting some really weird rhetoric
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"I beleave we are all human" minutes later he states "White is a mutation"
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i need to find this guy
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Out of all names
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Nuka Zeus!?
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How so? Didn't his death result in the presidency of Theodore Roosevelt
It did, but it set labor rights movement back so that they had to settle for half measures. It's likely that had McKinley not been assassinated, the entire labor force would have adopted an all or nothing attitude towards labor rights in the face of the extreme government sponsored terrorism against their movements.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/24/2023 1:19 AM
In a surprising twist, Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk's attempt to debunk the existence of his family's emerald mine backfired when his own father, Errol Musk, stepped forward to confirm its existence
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Suck it Elon
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Black Magic 4/24/2023 1:41 AM
The Sudan conflict has already drawn Egypt and Ethiopia into a shadow war
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Also, they are genociding non Muslim Sudanese minorities… so religion of peace my ass
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/24/2023 1:44 AM
Oh god
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Black Magic 4/24/2023 1:51 AM
Opinion | The Violence in Sudan Is Partly Our Fault - The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/23/opinion/sudan-violence-conflict.html
By Jacqueline Burns
The international community should not stop trying to end violent conflicts, but future efforts must consider who matters for peace and who does not.
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The jist: international peace brokers are incompetent in ways that make them worse than useless
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Also, generational hatred between certain groups is so fierce that sometimes it's better to not involve others because there's no way anyone is going to fix it.
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Also, generational hatred between certain groups is so fierce that sometimes it's better to not involve others because there's no way anyone is going to fix it.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/24/2023 10:49 AM
Former Yugoslavia, anyone?
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Former Yugoslavia, anyone?
Tito's biggest failure was not actively addressing those animosities.
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FUCK YES (edited)
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Do hannity next
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HOLY SHIT
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TIME TO PARTY
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/24/2023 12:17 PM
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MisterStompy 4/24/2023 5:18 PM
Tucker Carlson is out at Fox. This is very sudden: he signed off on Friday with, "We'll see you Monday". I don't think it was just the Dominion settlement: Tucker was their rain-maker. I'm guessing something else explosive will drop soon. My guess is sexual misconduct.
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MisterStompy 4/24/2023 5:48 PM
some real wacky shit is about to happen
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Don Lemon was also fired by surprise, although it's likely because he was accused of being an asshole, and of sexism (he said sexist shit before)
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Fox claimed on the air that Tucker leaving was a mutual Tucker-Fox decision
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I have trouble believing it
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Considering the suddenness; it's almost certainly a lie
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/24/2023 8:47 PM
holy shit i only realized it was fake at the end with the shit transition
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Wait that was fake
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
holy shit i only realized it was fake at the end with the shit transition
Actually yea I noticed the transition. Plus the fuzziness of it
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WAIT TUCKER CARLSON GOT FIRED?!
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Aces high
WAIT TUCKER CARLSON GOT FIRED?!
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/25/2023 12:57 AM
He did indeed. (edited)
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Black Magic 4/25/2023 2:19 AM
China is having a weird rascist melt down about ice cream at a car show
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They’ve literally attacked and destroyed cars at bmw dealers there…
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It's hilarious somewhat that a guy assassinated the prime minister and everyone was like "fuck he's got a point"
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Black Magic
China is having a weird rascist melt down about ice cream at a car show
Can I get a link
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oh biden is announcing reelection bid
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Fuck.
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Heavy sigh
11:33 AM
It'll be against Trump or DeSantis or some other dictatorial abomination from the void.
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With how desantis is polling, a repeat of 2020 is seeming likely
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Also Biden VP pick is going to be super important given his age
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/25/2023 11:52 AM
i wish this was a a joke but nope
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/25/2023 11:54 AM
I need to get into DND
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
i wish this was a a joke but nope
DnD fans are hardcore
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And very VERY VERY SPITEFUL
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I've been taking notes on how they've been able to take control of the narrative to combat corpo abuse fuckery
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Don't fuck with our board games. Its the only thing keeping a lot of us off of drugs and out of prison lmao
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Black Magic 4/25/2023 2:38 PM
BMW has apologized in China following a backlash over its ice cream giveaway promotion at the Shanghai auto show, where it was accused of discrimination against Chinese attendees.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/25/2023 3:10 PM
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/25/2023 3:14 PM
Russia Today invited Carlson to join their network to "question more" after Fox News announced his departure on Monday.
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Black Magic 4/25/2023 3:40 PM
ALSO
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huge colleteral runs are happening behind the scenes.
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20-point drop in bill yields is crazy
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Treasury bond yields are trading at such a premium they're yielding barely 3%
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BubsyFanboy 4/25/2023 4:05 PM
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/25/2023 4:24 PM
Chief economist Huw Pill says workers and firms should stop trying to pass on rising costs by hiking prices or demanding better wages
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AvoidOblivion 4/25/2023 4:35 PM
Just received this text. My name isn’t Thomas.
4:35 PM
Here’s the video if you’re interested.
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Black Magic 4/25/2023 5:20 PM
Tom hates you
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who ever he is
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Not gonna lie, it'd be hilarious seeing RT suddenly calling Tucker based.
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SonitusInanis 4/25/2023 7:58 PM
It'd be a shame if someone showed this guy Mrs Doubtfire
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SonitusInanis
It'd be a shame if someone showed this guy Mrs Doubtfire
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/25/2023 11:17 PM
Knowles played a gay man back when he was an actor. He doesn't give a shit.
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Actually, you know what's very American? punching Nazis
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and you know who burns books?
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nazis
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Black Magic 4/26/2023 1:45 AM
My favorite Nazis are from the blues brothers
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Black Magic
My favorite Nazis are from the blues brothers
SonitusInanis 4/26/2023 1:46 AM
Illinois Nazis
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Black Magic 4/26/2023 1:50 AM
“ I’ve always loved you.”
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I should sit and watch that, GF never seen it
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His argument is just "we had obscenity laws from colonial times until recently"
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Except his explanation for why we got rid of them is just "muh liberal courts"
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instead of us taking a more absolutist approach to the First Amendment (edited)
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which is what should be considered more American
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MisterStompy 4/26/2023 12:46 PM
By the end of this Florida will be controlled entirely by Snow White and those little dudes she hangs out with. https://www.theverge.com/2023/4/26/23699196/disney-sues-ron-desantis-florida
“Disney regrets that it has come to this,” the company writes.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/26/2023 1:58 PM
I am loosing my mind with these people
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AIF Cuirassier regiment
I am loosing my mind with these people
🇨🇳 flag lol
2:15 PM
100% a troll
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/26/2023 2:19 PM
lol
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/26/2023 3:49 PM
Aimenn Penny has been charged with violating the federal Church Arson Prevention Act for allegedly throwing Molotov cocktails at a church planning a drag event.
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Is sex reassignment surgery legal for minors in any state?
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Specifically meaning "bottom surgery" here (edited)
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Is sex reassignment surgery legal for minors in any state?
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/26/2023 6:49 PM
The youngest I believe is 15 and it requires a note from the doctor and the parents.
6:50 PM
So republicans are lying as usual.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 4/26/2023 7:00 PM
Typical. ._.
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Is sex reassignment surgery legal for minors in any state?
floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/26/2023 7:25 PM
exceedingly rare but it does happen in single-digit numbers per year iirc
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My favorite Nazis are from the blues brothers
TheAnonymousDew 4/26/2023 11:00 PM
Mine are dead ones
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Black Magic 4/27/2023 2:00 AM
I have changed my mind about death and the death penalty
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Even for monsters, I just don’t see it as worth it
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Jokes aside, right. I think the state isn’t component enough to pass a death sentence justly. And because I don’t trust it with everyday people, I am unwilling to let it kill even the monsters
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This has been a big change for me and it’s somewhat recent
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Jokes aside, right. I think the state isn’t component enough to pass a death sentence justly. And because I don’t trust it with everyday people, I am unwilling to let it kill even the monsters
I'm all for justice which prevents harm to innocents (or relative innocents, just to nip the whole no one is innocent argument in the bud). If killing a rapist stops them from raping anyone, if killing a psychopath stops them from killing anyone (or their actions from causing death to someone/many), then by all means... kill them. But... and this is a big but. The state should have no part in such things. Should never have authority to decide the fate of anyone. Because you are right, it is not only incompetent, but it's also corrupted by racism, greed, and false assumptions which prevent justice from occurring.
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The sister, brother, father, or mother of a victim, or the close friends of a victim are FAR more capable of determining what Justice would look like. And what steps should be taken to prevent the individual from harming another person. I'll trust an angry parent over a Judge any day of the week.
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Black Magic 4/27/2023 2:16 AM
That’s poetic but it just causes as many problems as it solves
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That’s poetic but it just causes as many problems as it solves
At least the problems will be on a local level, and thus be able to be dealt with by the people locally. But I'm pretty sure most people won't have much of an issue with a rapist being ex'd.
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Instead we have systemic problems that the people have literally zero control over fixing.
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Black Magic 4/27/2023 2:23 AM
The salemn witch trials were local too
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Black Magic
The salemn witch trials were local too
I didn't say anything about witches or any form of religious practices.
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I'm talking about people like Mr. His life will be ruined if we give him too harsh a punishment for raping a girl behind a dumpster.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/27/2023 4:53 AM
Fox News prime-time host Tucker Carlson called a senior executive the c-word in a redacted missive, and the network grew wary of further possible embarrassment.
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AvoidOblivion 4/27/2023 7:16 AM
Noah Edwin Anthony, 23, had evidence of a preliminary self-titled “operation,” found on his electronic devices, with the goal “to physically remove as many of [black and brown people] from Hoke, Cumberland, Robeson and Scotland Counties by whatever means need be,” according to a release from U.S. Attorney Michael Easley for the Eastern District of North Carolina.
https://www.cbs17.com/news/local-news/cumberland-county-news/fort-bragg-soldier-with-genocidal-goal-to-eliminate-minorities-pleads-guilty-to-gun-charge-us-attorney-says/
A soldier had evidence of a preliminary self-titled “operation,” found on his electronic devices, with the goal “to physically remove as many of [black and brown people]” as possible.
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AvoidOblivion 4/27/2023 8:15 AM
The Party of Small Government proving once again its desire for small government. https://www.wral.com/story/nc-bill-would-allow-police-to-track-phones-without-warrant/20830182/
Supporters say it would help find kidnapping victims or runaway children. Critics fear that it would further extend the government's ability to secretly surveil people.
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Yeah, let's not do that. You shouldn't be able to track a phone without a warrant.
8:18 AM
We already know the folks at the NSA abused the fuck out of their tools for personal reasons (tracing family members or exes, etc), police have even less accountability.
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They'll do an internal investigation and find themselves innocent of wrongdoing.
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AvoidOblivion 4/27/2023 8:32 AM
It also completely violates the Fourth Amendment.
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It also completely violates the Fourth Amendment.
It's not like our constitutional rights haven't been gutted before, like with the Patriot Act, and other similar bills.
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Getting kicked out for speaking up, what the actual fuck.
9:26 AM
They acted like they were scared because she said they would be responsible for harming trans youth.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/27/2023 10:08 AM
It’s fucking horrible, and the worst part about statehouse fascists is that we can’t get away with kicking their asses on the streets
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 4/27/2023 12:50 PM
This may not exactly be "political" (well, it shouldn't be), but I found this edgy altright comic page called "Znoflats," came across this gem as a result of searching "genderfluid." ☠️ No words. (edited)
12:52 PM
How much ya'll wanna bet the creator of this comic is white?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/27/2023 1:27 PM
jeeesus christ
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐
How much ya'll wanna bet the creator of this comic is white?
floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/27/2023 1:45 PM
100%? pretty obvious that it’s insanely racist
1:45 PM
especially with the mocking use of AAVE
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especially with the mocking use of AAVE
AvoidOblivion 4/27/2023 3:23 PM
What is AAVE?
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What is AAVE?
BubsyFanboy 4/27/2023 3:34 PM
African-American Vernacular English
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AvoidOblivion 4/27/2023 3:34 PM
Ok. Thanks.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 4/27/2023 3:45 PM
so not only is that comic transphobic and degrading but also incredibly racist
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐
This may not exactly be "political" (well, it shouldn't be), but I found this edgy altright comic page called "Znoflats," came across this gem as a result of searching "genderfluid." ☠️ No words. (edited)
𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 4/27/2023 3:47 PM
This looks like a meme created by a 15-year-old "intimidating" discord troll
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/27/2023 6:00 PM
rzilbermints
Senate Republicans on Thursday blocked a measure that would have allowed the Equal Rights Amendment (ERA) to be added to the Constitution. Senators voted 51 to 47 to invoke cloture on a motion…
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hmm, does this belong in memes....
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Why do republicans seem to desire small t tyranny, as in the ability to control people around them in their immediate social circle. Why is that?
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Why do republicans seem to desire small t tyranny, as in the ability to control people around them in their immediate social circle. Why is that?
Insert 20+ different studies showing the effects of being isolated from a healthy supportive local community by capitalist manipulation to isolate people from such communities in order to prevent labor revolt.
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aka: It's complicated. Add in many studies that show conservative beliefs are an indicator of mental illness and lack of critical reasoning capacity.
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Oh, yeah, but how do we construct an environment that is more conducive to mental wellness?
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Oh, yeah, but how do we construct an environment that is more conducive to mental wellness?
Create collective living communities with egalitarian consensus rather than democratic processes where individuals can be themselves, and also contribute to a larger collective goal. (edited)
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Democratic processes are inherently biased against the minority, someone will always feel left out. Consensus however promotes the group listening to and addressing individual concerns while creating the basic choices presenting to the whole.
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In short, even if only one person identifies a problem with a proposal, their problem must be addressed by everyone in order for the proposal to go through. No one feels left out. Everyone feels like they are a part of a supportive group. Confidence and sense of security in their place within the group grows, and the collective support structure creates a more stable living situation.
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Black Magic 4/28/2023 2:05 AM
Local communities are capable of being shitty too
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Local communities are capable of being shitty too
They take work, some people are content to complain and do no work to fix the problems, mostly because they feel they have no power. A consensus based community gives them that feeling of control over their own situation and fosters a feeling of comradery with their fellow community members. So yes, local communities can be shitty, but starting from a point of providing all the things capitalism and democracy strips away helps mitigate that chance.
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Local communities are capable of being shitty too
I've lived in shitty racist communities. One town I lived in arrested black people at least 2400% more often compared to the population (had less than 1% black folks, but more than 10% of arrests were black folks).
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Right now, I'm trying to just kinda keep up with local LGBT folks, because all of us are a little scared about possibilities right now.
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This looks like a meme created by a 15-year-old "intimidating" discord troll
Probably a milquetoast white boy
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 4/28/2023 6:28 PM
A what
7:19 PM
What the fuck
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/28/2023 7:21 PM
And they wonder why teachers are being told to hide trans kids from their parents.
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Dr_Diskette 4/28/2023 7:21 PM
yep
7:22 PM
one of my students almost got removed from my school from their parents because their friends called them by different pronouns and “I’m not gonna let my daughter be brainwashed by you rapist”
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Still hiding the fact I’m queer to my school, but it’s becoming impossible to stay here in Florida anyways
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one of my students almost got removed from my school from their parents because their friends called them by different pronouns and “I’m not gonna let my daughter be brainwashed by you rapist”
That's so fucked up.
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Dr_Diskette
one of my students almost got removed from my school from their parents because their friends called them by different pronouns and “I’m not gonna let my daughter be brainwashed by you rapist”
It's disgusting that it nearly came to that (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/29/2023 2:06 AM
Oh my fucking god.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Oh my fucking god.
Yeah I saw that. Like at least she's not claiming Jews are bathing in baby's blood to stay youthful looking... but it's the same vibe just aimed at a different target. (edited)
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Oh my fucking god.
joe hill’s revenge 4/29/2023 2:23 AM
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/29/2023 2:24 AM
GOOD
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AvoidOblivion 4/29/2023 7:03 AM
In a trio of opinions totaling 436 pages, the N.C. Supreme Court has restored North Carolina’s voter ID law, ruled that state courts cannot consider partisan gerrymandering claims, and ended voting for felons who have not completed their sentences. Each ruling issued Friday divided the court, 5-2. Republican justices supported the majority opini...
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 4/29/2023 9:33 AM
This is why Im scared of coming out
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Looks like #PatriotFront is up to some bullshit today. Which means, it’s time to watch their training video again.
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This is so wrong but so right
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/29/2023 5:32 PM
I do love that video.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/29/2023 6:45 PM
I feel like I just witnessed an SA.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/29/2023 7:21 PM
Lmao
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/29/2023 7:25 PM
Brokeback Patriots
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AvoidOblivion 4/29/2023 8:19 PM
The homoeroticism is strong with them. But of course it is, considering they are very homophobic.
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This is so wrong but so right
Most homoerotic patdown I've ever seen to be sure.
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I hope they all sort out who's bottom and top among them and they just go ahead and get laid.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/29/2023 9:13 PM
LMAO
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AvoidOblivion 4/29/2023 9:20 PM
“Tall dom gently caresses skinny sub.” Does that work?
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AvoidOblivion
“Tall dom gently caresses skinny sub.” Does that work?
Probably, but you know they will resort to calling service tops cucks.
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“Tall dom gently caresses skinny sub.” Does that work?
Lol.
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BubsyFanboy 4/30/2023 3:31 PM
Chinese authorities are preparing to release a man who disappeared three years ago after publicizing videos of overcrowded hospitals and bodies during the COVID-19 outbreak. That's according to his relative and another person familiar with his case. Fang Bin and other members of the public who were dubbed citizen journalists posted details of th...
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MisterStompy 4/30/2023 5:05 PM
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/30/2023 6:08 PM
LMAO!!!
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/30/2023 6:59 PM
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BubsyFanboy 5/1/2023 10:15 AM
This is your country on car dependency
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And yes, I'm putting this here because infrastructure of this scale is a political matter too.
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And yes, I'm putting this here because infrastructure of this scale is a political matter too.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/1/2023 10:37 AM
no no, you're right to put it here
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Fuck cars
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10:54 AM
This city sucks because it's all built around cars, and good forbid there be a little bit of traffic.
10:54 AM
Why do we need 4 lanes per side on a highway through a city of less than 2 million, including the whole region?
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Fuck cars
AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/1/2023 11:03 AM
I love cars but I also understand they are godawfull for us
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I genuinely like my car, but cars shouldn't define cities.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/1/2023 11:05 AM
I just want my pfp car
11:06 AM
i love it so much
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I am reminded I really need to look into getting the lift installed for my car like I wanted to do.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/1/2023 11:11 AM
shouldn't this be in memes?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/1/2023 11:11 AM
i hate cars too but i have one big issue with radical anti-car stuff, like removing roads and stuff: what about emergency vehicles
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oh shit i thought it was memes
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/1/2023 11:12 AM
Agreed
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I like how it was in Madison WI: roads in the main part of the city were for bikes, buses, and emergency vehicles only.
11:18 AM
I think it changed recently, but it was cool while it was a thing.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/1/2023 11:21 AM
I feel its rather hilarious that for once, looking to how we did things in the past is the best option now
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Trains
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trams
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more buses
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human designed cities
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BUT
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the reactionaries don't want any of it
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AvoidOblivion 5/1/2023 12:00 PM
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/1/2023 12:01 PM
I can't fucking read any of that man
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Same here. Discord compresses images that are particularly large.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/1/2023 12:03 PM
TLDR
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Any system which allows for the creation of such a thing is inherently fascist.
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Democrats be like:
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/1/2023 1:11 PM
Gee, Matt, it's almost like both are arbitrary social constructs meant for the purpose of segregation. (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/1/2023 1:13 PM
thats just hideous, just have the two flags separated
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it looks like super Chile or something
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it looks like super Chile or something
BubsyFanboy 5/1/2023 1:15 PM
Or like a Confederate flag
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/1/2023 1:16 PM
Oh god
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or like some Totalitarian European Union and the other states are vassals
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or like some Totalitarian European Union and the other states are vassals
Which is just about right on the money.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/1/2023 5:25 PM
pornhub is a shitty company sure, but the reasons these people bring up to ban stuff always end up not being worthy of hearing them
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/2/2023 12:02 AM
@Spinner I’m really starting to see the magic of what happens when a community comes together for stuff in solidarity with each other. The May Day event I was at today was absolutely awesome; everyone was there with friends smiling and laughing, the music was great, everyone was having an awesome time. Got to talk with my friend on all sorts of topics from simple anticapitalist shit to how he converted to Hinduism and the nature of life, and also got to meet RebelKitty. I can’t believe I missed out on this for so long.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
@Spinner I’m really starting to see the magic of what happens when a community comes together for stuff in solidarity with each other. The May Day event I was at today was absolutely awesome; everyone was there with friends smiling and laughing, the music was great, everyone was having an awesome time. Got to talk with my friend on all sorts of topics from simple anticapitalist shit to how he converted to Hinduism and the nature of life, and also got to meet RebelKitty. I can’t believe I missed out on this for so long.
Fantastic. Now imagine living in such a community. 😉
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Trump retweeted a county singer's post that suggested the Florida governor wouldn't be backed by Trump supporters if he's the GOP's presidential candidate.
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please be dumb enough to actually happen
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Michael Knowles explicitly called for the “extermination of transgenderism” at CPAC this year
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The rhetoric is getting increasingly genocidal
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Michael Knowles explicitly called for the “extermination of transgenderism” at CPAC this year
AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/2/2023 3:43 PM
can he get shot already
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rathernot123 5/2/2023 3:43 PM
TLDR federal anti trans bill
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Ban on gender affirming care for minors
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And a bunch of other things related
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MisterStompy 5/2/2023 4:14 PM
Aaaaaaaand there it is.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/2/2023 6:05 PM
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They’re plotting to overturn democracy in broad daylight
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Time for John Brown?
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Listen, Texas is a kindling box
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something is gonna be a spark
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Especially given they were dumb enough to think no gun regulation wouldn't backfire horribly
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That said, given the SCOTUS is gonna be in hearing for a bit
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The chance of the SCOTUS getting involved now is pretty low
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Especially with the news cycle in full SCOTUS IS ILLEGIT mode rn
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Black Magic 5/2/2023 8:46 PM
Don’t pipe up unless you can put up
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Do it yourself or don’t talk about it
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...what?
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...what?
While the comment was very tactlessly put. I think the point is, folks in Texas need to do the thing themselves, and at this point doing the thing means going completely underground and not discussing the thing openly. The thing being the thing you do when your government goes mask off fascist.
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When your government is at the stage Texas government is... opsec becomes number one priority. I suspect there will be a time when messages here dwindle because most of us will be doing the thing.
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assuming Discord even exist at that point
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as Pornhub is showing, the internet is looking to blueball the red states
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btw, most of the internet's core servers are in CA
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just a reminder
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btw, most of the internet's core servers are in CA
AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/2/2023 9:50 PM
what if....we do a little funny thing if shit hits the fan
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Pornhub gonna BLUE BALL the fucking Beast
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Aces high
as Pornhub is showing, the internet is looking to blueball the red states
Do I even want to know what you are referring to?
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People in Utah who visit Pornhub will now be greeted by adult performer Cherie DeVille asking them to tell their representatives to change their age verification law.
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and people think the writer's strike is gonna have some serious cultural impact
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which
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it will
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I have a theory that the writer's strike of 2007 lead to basically possibly Obama being president
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Do I even want to know what you are referring to?
AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/2/2023 9:54 PM
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derived from the sexual action of a similar name
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I know what blueballs is, but thanks. 😉
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but yeah so like
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I hate the owners of pornhub and their stranglehold over the porn industry and continued support of content producers who treat performers like shit. But this is based.
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Pornhub can sometimes have a point
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you can be a capitialist and have a valid point
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but yes, they can be problematic. Won't lie tho
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they go below the belt
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in more ways then one
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you can be a capitialist and have a valid point
Valid point or no... they deserve to be X'd.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/2/2023 9:58 PM
Yup
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I think people underestimate how much porn is consumed
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like
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its a lot yeah
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but people don't realize how much
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/2/2023 9:59 PM
isn't porn ~30% of the internet?
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like a actual porn ban with serious consequences will fucking lead to civil war
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/2/2023 9:59 PM
or is that an outdated statistic
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possibly more
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I know many people personally who have taken up shady pornhub backed producers on their "Florida Trip" and the stories are fucking horrible. A close friend of mine was a very popular performer, and she's absolutely fucked in the head from addiction and the exploitation she experienced through that route into porn.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/2/2023 10:00 PM
and- yeah, although it is so widely consumed... i wouldn't complain at the downfall of it. The porn industry is so insanely exploitative
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problem is
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porn is damn near recession proof
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as long as there is horny, there will be porn
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it might be more recession proof then prison
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plus, historically, porn has been the leftists ally, whether they like it or not
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and- yeah, although it is so widely consumed... i wouldn't complain at the downfall of it. The porn industry is so insanely exploitative
As someone who has earned quite a bit of money from that industry... I agree one hundred percent. That said... @Aces high is right, and there is a place for individual ethical content creators and creating new less problematic distribution sites.
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porn's got the funds, will and tendency to fuck over fash. IN THE NOT FUN AWAY
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UNLESS SEEING PEOPLE'S HUMILATION IS YOUR KINK APPARENTLY
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As someone who has earned quite a bit of money from that industry... I agree one hundred percent. That said... @Aces high is right, and there is a place for individual ethical content creators and creating new less problematic distribution sites.
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Some of the current wave of popular performers are VERY left.
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as long as there is horny, there will be porn
AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/2/2023 10:03 PM
I am definitely part of the problem
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Don't consume the stuff myself, I got no drive, but hey, I'm for unionizing work, regardless of where its from
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/2/2023 10:04 PM
i wouldn't say that about yourself. we literally exist for the sole biological purpose to have sex, of course our brains are attached to media of it
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i wouldn't say that about yourself. we literally exist for the sole biological purpose to have sex, of course our brains are attached to media of it
well, everyone but asexuals
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/2/2023 10:04 PM
yeah fair
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Tbf, some asexuals do masturbate and have sex sometimes
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i wouldn't say that about yourself. we literally exist for the sole biological purpose to have sex, of course our brains are attached to media of it
I'm demi-sexual, but I have romance kinks. 😉
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yeah but they are literally hardwired to not have a drive for it
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Sedna
Tbf, some asexuals do masturbate and have sex sometimes
floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/2/2023 10:05 PM
i was gonna say that i just didn't want to get into what a long convrsation it is
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like its not a all consuming thing
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Aces high
yeah but they are literally hardwired to not have a drive for it
floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/2/2023 10:06 PM
EHHHHHHH
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Like the girl I'm talking to gets horny as fuck at times and is also ace
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coming from a likely aroace
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/2/2023 10:06 PM
my bf is ace and has massive libido
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Ig it's more a lack of sexual attraction and not a desire for sex
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/2/2023 10:06 PM
yeah
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Aces high
yeah but they are literally hardwired to not have a drive for it
I'm not sure there has been enough studies to determine a common cause. I know a lot of folks (probably myself included) have a lack of sexual attraction to people in general because of sexual assault/abuse/coercion.
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as someone who is ace, and likely aroace at that, I do think ace is its own spectrum into itself
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Sedna
Ig it's more a lack of sexual attraction and not a desire for sex
That's more or less where I am. I have a desire for sexual and non-sexual intimacy, but zero sexual attraction unless there is an existing emotional intimacy.
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I would say that's more demi but you know your identity better than I do
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you got sex positive, sex neutral and sex repulsed aces, and that's NOT getting into romantic preferences
10:09 PM
there's a reason I say Ace is a spectrum into itself
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@Aces high and @Sedna you are both right in my opinion... I've done a lot of work in kink education and have lots of contacts among sex/kink educators, and they all agree, it's a spectrum and however you identify yourself as part of that spectrum is healthy.
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The point is not which term is more right in other people's eyes, it's in that you personally take the time to learn you and your particular relationship to sex/sexuality.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/2/2023 11:36 PM
Turns out the reason Tucker was canned is because he was starting to realize what a piece of shit he'd become.
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By Jeremy W. Peters, Michael S. Schmidt and Jim Rutenberg
The discovery of the text message contributed to a chain of events that ultimately led to Tucker Carlson’s firing.
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Hateful cowards tried to get Zooey Zephyr killed
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/3/2023 12:14 AM
Of course they did.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/3/2023 12:23 AM
i hate people who do SWATings
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unironically would love to show them the loving end of a world war 2 artillery piece
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how to deal with swaters
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unironically would love to show them the loving end of a world war 2 artillery piece
Nah I would show them the loving end of an A10 thunderbolt
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Sedna
Nah I would show them the loving end of an A10 thunderbolt
AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/3/2023 12:27 AM
hear me out
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quicklime shells
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i've been playing too much empire total war
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Sedna
Nah I would show them the loving end of an A10 thunderbolt
AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/3/2023 12:28 AM
too quick of a death
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AIF Cuirassier regiment
too quick of a death
Only if the rounds impact the torso or head... it fires fast, but not fast enough to ensure a clean body shot... probably a leg or arm.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/3/2023 12:34 AM
True
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Also it's accurate enough to hit roughly center mass on an MBT... but a person is a lot smaller.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Turns out the reason Tucker was canned is because he was starting to realize what a piece of shit he'd become.
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unironically would love to show them the loving end of a world war 2 artillery piece
I may hate cops for being lazy corrupt bums, but even SWAT hates SWATTING
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Turns out the reason Tucker was canned is because he was starting to realize what a piece of shit he'd become.
The amount of self introspection and awareness in those text... man. Too bad he doubled down in everything.
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Of course they tried to get her killed.
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So I don't want to simp for an evil mega corporation, but this is kinda neat to see.
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Eh, a core aspects of fighting fascism is getting big dollars to have a active invested interest in hating fascist
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As is why myself and a few other trans people are badgering the DEI folks at my company to be publicly and specifically against the anti-trans laws throughout the US.
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So, especially as a Owl House fan, I may have serious issues with Disney, I CAN appreciate them for this. This ain't about the mouse winning, this is making sure DeSatan loses
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As is why myself and a few other trans people are badgering the DEI folks at my company to be publicly and specifically against the anti-trans laws throughout the US.
DEI?
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Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion.
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Basically the folks there to make sure they treat minorities decently. Or at least make things have the appearance of it.
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Ah
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Provided I remind people, corps aren't allies
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They love money
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So make it being a decent fucking human being will earn you all the fucking money
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/3/2023 2:42 PM
After a surprise announcement last night, Republicans in NC could pass a 12-week abortion ban today or tomorrow. Deliberations, which went on for months, were so secret that lawmakers had to turn in their papers after every meeting, a source told me. https://t.co/su3NwImZwk
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Provided I remind people, corps aren't allies
floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/3/2023 3:09 PM
Not allies, but tools nonetheless
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exactly
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hope you like losing those few red districts, you dumb fucks
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 5/3/2023 6:45 PM
Since this is sadly considered a political sensitive subject can ya'll guess who this screenshot is about?
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐
Since this is sadly considered a political sensitive subject can ya'll guess who this screenshot is about?
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/3/2023 6:46 PM
Dylan Mulvaney.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 5/3/2023 6:46 PM
Bingo. /neg
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/3/2023 6:47 PM
Could put this in #fascists-online.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 5/3/2023 6:51 PM
I don't know why she gets so much hate, she's so sweet and kind and she did nothing wrong to deserve all this hate
6:52 PM
It really is super unfair how being transgender is reason enough for someone to hate you
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/3/2023 8:02 PM
Local police said they received a distress call from an FBI tip line.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 5/3/2023 9:10 PM
It's Matt Walsh so you cant really expect a rational take from him
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Every time I look at Matt Walsh, even not factoring his "politics"/hate speech, gives me the vibes of a man with several terabytes of illegal shit on his computer
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And not the drugs kind The Epstien kind
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But worse, somehow
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But worse, somehow
Yeah, strikes me as a far more vile Jared Fogel
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I feel a more disturbing Ron Brown actually
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/3/2023 11:27 PM
I get wannabe Josef Mengele vibes from him.
11:28 PM
You just know this fucker would carve up LGBTQ folk under the pretense of "trying to find what's wrong with them".
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Assuming he would even know HOW to cut someone up correctly That said, may he suffer the same fate as the guards of the camps?
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Assuming he would even know HOW to cut someone up correctly That said, may he suffer the same fate as the guards of the camps?
I certainly wish that over the fate of those at the Japanese versions... pretty sure they still haven't made a horror film which approaches the level of absolutely fucking twisted horror that the Japanese "scientists" did to Chinese civilians.
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And those motherfuckers got off scott free.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/4/2023 1:40 AM
Ah, good ol' Unit 731.
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To be fair, pretty sure half of them got cancer from the nukes
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Ah, good ol' Unit 731.
Had we not forced an unconditional surrender, there is no telling how long that fucking horrorshow would have operated. There is no possible estimate to the total numbers of lives that would have been lost had their research been allowed to continue, both in the "research" and as a result thereof. It's not out of the realm of possibility that there would be no mammal left alive on earth as a result. I don't know that there will ever be a better example of state sponsored psychopaths than that was. If there is a god, each and every person assigned there, each and every official who knew of it, and each and every member of the families of those people would be struck dead and forever burn in hell.
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To be fair, pretty sure half of them got cancer from the nukes
Who? Unit 731 was in mainland China.
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Ah fair, must be thinking of the soldier's then
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Tbh Japan compared to everyone else, got off relatively light but to be fair, they are the only country so far to suffer two fucking nuclear strikes
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And, generally speaking, it did traumatize them to not raise a hand against America
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generally speaking
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Then again with three different generations see their friends and family being around during a normal, if wartime, day, then blink and everyone and everything is a fucking shadow on the wall that is arguably a example of punishment enough
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And I do mean traumatize Japanese media before and after (not factoring propaganda) is a fun exercise in seeing how a traumatic incident can completely alter a culture
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And, generally speaking, it did traumatize them to not raise a hand against America
I need to get to sleep, but they fucking didn't see anyone but Japanese as human... literally. There was a hard decision to be made, we knew if Japan negotiated a peace treaty they would keep some of China, and continue Unit 731 as well as other horrific actions against the Chinese. I don't know that I would have made a different choice with the bombs if I'd been in those shoes. I might make the same choice and fully acknowledge the evil of it and all the possible consequences thereof just to ensure an unconditional surrender.
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That was the core argument. Ironically in a way, it's a more morbid argument Sherman made in his March
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Sometimes, you just gotta traumatize a people so they DON'T do a horrible stupid thing, even if the actions could be arguable
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Even more ironic is... it's a Bhuddist argument. Just on a scale no Bhuddist had ever envisioned.
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Harmful action taken to ensure further harm doesn't befall others can be taken if the actor is willing to take upon the harm it will cause them personally to do it.
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Violence as self-defense/defense of others but on a scale humanity never thought of before.
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Sometimes, you just gotta traumatize a people so they DON'T do a horrible stupid thing, even if the actions could be arguable
I think it was the only way to shake the Japanese people out of their... racism isn't the right word for someone who literally doesn't believe another human is human... but you get my meaning. The VAST majority of Japanese never questioned the actions of their leaders. Like the local opposition voice numbers were so small you can literally find all of their names and actions in a few days of research. Hint: most of them were killed.
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Religious, racist and cultural superiority complex
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Religious, racist and cultural superiority complex
Even that feels... small for the extremity of their belief at the time. (edited)
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Historically, Japan has had beef with its Asian neighbors for years to give Kansas and Missouri a run for their money
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That hatred in the 30s and 40s boiled over something nasty, but the hate was always there
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Aces high
Historically, Japan has had beef with its Asian neighbors for years to give Kansas and Missouri a run for their money
Well aware. And at no point did they acknowledge those neighbors were human beings.
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You know shit is gonna happen when both sides call the others barbarians
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You know shit is gonna happen when both sides call the others barbarians
Barbarian (well the Japanese word for it) has a connotation that makes it more like calling someone a Neandertal or Florensian.
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Literally less developed as a species than them.
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Yup
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But still
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My point stands is that Japanese hate for their Asian neighbors boiled over something nasty
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Anyway... point is... the people responsible for Unit 731 did not get a fraction of the justice they deserved. Had their entire families been at ground zero of the two bombs, they still wouldn't know the horror they caused. Had their ancestor spirits forced them to suffer the effects of being at ground zero in slow motion over and over again for eternity, they would only start to catch a glimpse of it.
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Valid but oof
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Aces high
My point stands is that Japanese hate for their Asian neighbors boiled over something nasty
Absolutely true.
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Valid but oof
Yeah, finding out about that place had a rather strong effect on my development as a child. I'm a little salty.
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Crow paid for private school for a relative Thomas said he was raising “as a son.” “This is way outside the norm,” said a former White House ethics lawyer.
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BubsyFanboy 5/4/2023 1:11 PM
https://wiadomosci-wp-pl.translate.goog/nowy-stan-wrzenia-na-prawicy-nieoficjalnie-pis-i-ziobro-zrywaja-umowe-zaczynaja-sie-targi-o-listy-wyborcze-6894404367416096a?_x_tr_sl=pl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pl&_x_tr_pto=wapp
According to unofficial information from Wirtualna Polska, the current coalition agreement concluded between Solidarna Polska (today Sovereign Poland) and PiS is no longer in force. So it is not certain what places - in the event of a joint clash with PiS - the Ziobrists could count on the electoral lists
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What does that mean, for those of us not completely up on polish politics
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...you want dead cops?
2:52 AM
cause that's how you get dead cops
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Aces high
cause that's how you get dead cops
That's absolutely not something I would lose sleep over. My problem is, for every one cop that dies, there is potentially 3+ civilians that might die in the resulting gun battle.
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in a state swimming in guns to the point its a matter of time it WILL spill to the streets
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TN cops started swearing a storm when TN GOP thought making AKs legal to concealed carry was a good idea because they realize this would be a problem, justified or not
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Florida has even looser gun laws
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and, if Douglas showed me anything, Florida Gun shop owners are fucking stupid as shit
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and will sell guns to anybody
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I can hear Newsom quietly expanding CA self defense laws already
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yeah so fun fact
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for non CA?
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If you see someone getting snatched for so called "abortion crimes", it counts as stand your ground to pop a cap into the kidnapper's ass
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it was surprisingly a pro-gun move from a more typically pro-gun control gov
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like even Newsom was like "It is not enough to make Abortion a state right in CA, I must give people the right to teach those fuckers a lession"
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also its under kidnapping charges
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but fuck, lets not just make this about JUST the trans kids
3:16 AM
what we are going to see is murder spike like fucking crazy in Florida
3:17 AM
the Divorces over one parent being supportive and the other a piece of shit? Yeah the supportive parent now has several incentives to fucking have the pos partner disappear in the swamps
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trans kids who wanna run away to support networks now have to deal with their parents in less then legal ways
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or fuck, maybe we'll see would be trans bounty hunters suddenly found dead in blue states, likely in the desert
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DeSatan, aside from clear over reach of power to the point he should be deemed a national threat and take the fuck out for this stunt, ideally in the legal method mind you, is about to get a crash course on what happens if a people decide murder the assholes fucking their own personal lives, like Missouri learned when they fucked with Kansas.
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like is this a genocide attempt?
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absolutely
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the problem is, Hitler was A.) smart enough to get corpos on his side and B.) explicitly glorified the rural german people and demonized the liberals and cities because he pegged them as weaklings to basically pick on, but homicidial
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American minorities have a history of being very very underhanded in their tactics if the idiots ignore the olive branch
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....motherfucker this ended up a essay
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FUCK
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the problem is, Hitler was A.) smart enough to get corpos on his side and B.) explicitly glorified the rural german people and demonized the liberals and cities because he pegged them as weaklings to basically pick on, but homicidial
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/5/2023 3:44 AM
Was also a talented speaker.
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true
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but that is arguable
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some people just had gut feelings to not trust the motherfucker
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 5/5/2023 6:58 AM
Well, damn, now they can't say they're "just worried about the kids." Also, isn't that literally a crime?? (edited)
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the Divorces over one parent being supportive and the other a piece of shit? Yeah the supportive parent now has several incentives to fucking have the pos partner disappear in the swamps
AvoidOblivion 5/5/2023 7:39 AM
Unfortunately, the crazy scum will be the first to act in most cases. I foresee many murders of supportive parents and trans kids in the future. Yes, the supportive parent and the kid have more reason to defend themselves, but the unsupportive one is the one most detached from reality and thus the most dangerous.
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but fuck, lets not just make this about JUST the trans kids
That's fair. We're just the first step, the easiest to fuck with and set a precedent with.
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Well, damn, now they can't say they're "just worried about the kids." Also, isn't that literally a crime?? (edited)
Sadly the Federal Kidnapping Act only allows feds to step in if the child is transported across state lines.
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Sadly the Federal Kidnapping Act only allows feds to step in if the child is transported across state lines.
AvoidOblivion 5/5/2023 10:17 AM
The point of the Florida bill is to allow them to kidnap trans children outside of Florida and take them there to be “cured” or whatever it is they want.
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The point of the Florida bill is to allow them to kidnap trans children outside of Florida and take them there to be “cured” or whatever it is they want.
Well then, open season on the motherfuckers if they set foot out of Florida.
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"I'm sorry officer, I had to kill him he was attempting to kidnap a child that was over there." "Where'd the kid go? Ran off that way after I told her to run."
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 5/5/2023 10:23 AM
Matt Walsh: "Trans people are going on and on about imaginary genocides, but the majority of people are protecting them even though they're going after our kids!" Trans people: ^
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You (Matt Walsh) say trans people aren't going through a genocide, but the child in the picture begs to differ.
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The annual global list of gender diverse people murdered is released for Transgender Day of Remembrance, held on November 20 each year.
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The Everytown for Gun Safety report found that 73% of transgender murder victims were killed with a gun.
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2022 has also been marked by a "shocking wave of anti-transgender legislation" nationwide.
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Before even completing the first quarter of this year, 12 transgender individuals have been violently killed. Since 2017, there have been 148 reported murders of transgender individuals in the United States.
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The numbers were already overwhelming even before an alleged hate crime renewed terror in a besieged community.
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love it when we're called liars with no source backing up that bullshit claim
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I'm going to just add a little context: most of the people who were murdered were people of color, and sex workers.
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Really gotta remember it's not just that they're trans, but it's also that sex workers get killed frequently and have unsafe work conditions due to prohibition, and people of color have less safe neighborhoods and conditions due to systemic racism.
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Really gotta remember it's not just that they're trans, but it's also that sex workers get killed frequently and have unsafe work conditions due to prohibition, and people of color have less safe neighborhoods and conditions due to systemic racism.
That's not something he's been exposed to yet. In fact at his age, the fact that there is sex work should probably be something he hasn't found out yet.
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Fair enough.
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Fair enough.
But you are absolutely correct, the prohibition on sex work is a direct and major factor in the harm that is caused to many people in this demographic. Faced with alienation in the workplace, trans folk often have no other means to facilitate their transition or even survival other than sex work (because as hated as transfolk are, those same people fetishize them and thus pay for sex with them). And a population which cannot seek protection from society while doing something society wants them to do (privately of course) is going to be a main target for the insanity that exists in those people who both fetishize and hate them (a paraphilia). It has always been true in the Gay and Trans communities, it has always been true for cis-female sex workers. And it's the number one reason why decriminalization of sex work is absolutely a necessary priority for anyone on the anti-fascist side of the spectrum to advocate and work for. (edited)
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Criminalization of sex work in general is purely a fascist tool to oppress the people the government wants to oppress. It is inherently fascist.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/5/2023 11:20 AM
as usual, with prohibition, you can't regulate it
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so you get awful people running the business
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it happened with alcohol
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its happening with drugs
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and it has been happening for a long time with sex work itself
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so you get awful people running the business
That's actually secondary in sex work. Yes there are pimps and sex traffickers, but the vast majority of escorts are either self managed, or managed through fellow sex workers these days. The main violence comes from johns who know they can get away with abusing their provider. (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/5/2023 11:23 AM
i see
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I'm not saying we shouldn't tackle sex traffickers... in my opinion they should be killed on sight. Just saying that there are a lot more sex workers who work themselves or work with other sex workers collectively.
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Well, damn, now they can't say they're "just worried about the kids." Also, isn't that literally a crime?? (edited)
It is, and technically kidnapping is a good ground for Stand your ground is most states. Just pointing that out
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Unfortunately, the crazy scum will be the first to act in most cases. I foresee many murders of supportive parents and trans kids in the future. Yes, the supportive parent and the kid have more reason to defend themselves, but the unsupportive one is the one most detached from reality and thus the most dangerous.
eeeeh normally I agree, but as I pointed out, desperation makes people consider some shit. Cause and point, Burning Kansas
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case*
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Burning Kansas, if your state education failed you, was a series of violent attacks and battles (literally, it was like a mini civil war that lead to the actual Civil war. John Brown was spurred to action by Burning Kansas) where pro-slavery citizens of Missouri literally invaded, occupied and basically attacked the Kansas for the crime of daring to side with the abolitionists and make slavery illegal in their state law and part of Missouri's crimes involved repeat and violent raids and killing every man woman and child
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it was so bad that Kansas citizens, regardless of political views, might have a legit genetic hatred of Missourians
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it was so bad that Kansas citizens, regardless of political views, might have a legit genetic hatred of Missourians
That's honestly reasonable.
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Fuck Missouri
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Also, as a Californian, Missouri is responsible for Dobbs and hogging our tax money because they refuse to get their shit together so valid
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But more seriously, that civil war in a state bit wasn't a joke. Abolitionist Kansasians got so fed up with pro-slavery gangs that they started to straight up murder them when they git identified
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I think murdering pro-slavery groups is probably perfectly ethical.
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Hell, that's how John Brown got started. Pro-slavery gangs burned down several pro-abolitionist towns, towns that John Brown happened to do business in, and he and his two sons literally kidnapped the local pro-slavery sheriff and possibly a head of that slavery gang and his two sons and killed them. (edited)
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Like Their corpses were pretty much publicly available to see
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move it to #memes as spicy as these are
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Florida's Senate on Thursday passed a bill that will allow a tourism board appointed by Governor Ron DeSantis to cancel development agreements its predecessor body signed, the latest salvo against the Walt Disney Co from the conservative leader.
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....DeSatan is gonna be a gator's meal
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No way that doesn't get thrown out in court. It's blatantly unconstitutional to retroactively cancel a contract
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Then again, Clarence Thomas doesn't seem to care
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and Unfortunate for Thomas, Disney has money
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more money then most GOP backers
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/5/2023 2:14 PM
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and Matt Walsh is now on China's shitlist
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don't fuck with the Pandas
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/5/2023 3:04 PM
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has accused his political rival, Kemal Kilicdaroglu, of being “LGBT,” ahead of next week’s elections.
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You know what, I never thought of agree with him on anything, but yeah, they probably should be let go. They are extremely expensive to try to save, don't reproduce reliably in ways that support sustainability, and the focus on them draws funds from animals with greater impact on their environment.
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I'd rather see that money help support species that would see more benefit.
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and Matt Walsh is now on China's shitlist
AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/5/2023 3:10 PM
the one good thing about current chinese government
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Technically fits memes more so imo
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Slansky trial
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You know what, I never thought of agree with him on anything, but yeah, they probably should be let go. They are extremely expensive to try to save, don't reproduce reliably in ways that support sustainability, and the focus on them draws funds from animals with greater impact on their environment.
AvoidOblivion 5/5/2023 9:30 PM
This was a topic we covered in my AP Environmental Sciences class. The benefits of switching funding that goes to koalas, pandas, and other “national icons” that are endangered to multiple other species. Preserving koalas and pandas is incredibly expensive, and the money we spend on them could go to many other endangered species.
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The prosecutor investigating possible illegal meddling in the 2020 election in Georgia has agreed to immunity deals with at least eight Republican fake electors who signed a certificate falsely stating that then-President Donald Trump had won the state. Defense attorney Kimberly Debrow revealed the existence of the immunity deals in a court fili...
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No way that doesn't get thrown out in court. It's blatantly unconstitutional to retroactively cancel a contract
If it doesn't get thrown out in court, we're talking killing money sums. DeSatan won't be long for the world.
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10:19 PM
There's a reason animators call Disney Mouse Mafia
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There's a reason animators call Disney Mouse Mafia
Animators, performers at the parks, concessioners, any business which supplies Disney...
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Any business Disney owns
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SAG/AFTRA, WGA, DGA, all the film support unions. (edited)
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Animator unions Actor unions Writer unions
10:23 PM
Provided in those, it's a bit more prickly, but Disney tries to keep it relatively civil
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Animator unions Actor unions Writer unions
SAG/AFTRA is the actor union. WGA is the Writer's union, DGA is the Directors union.
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10:24 PM
Just....all of hollywood
10:24 PM
In some capacity or another
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I'm not sure who animators are a part of... never saw that side of the industry.
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Animators have several unions depending on type, era and studio
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Animation Guild is the OG thi
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But yeah... all the other actors I worked with who'd been employed in any way by Disney... Mouse Mafia... usually in conjunction with jokes about how the MM will kill you if you don't keep the Disney Smile on your face.
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sounds about right
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A lover of mine a while back was one of Disneyland's Sleeping Beauty's... and the horror stories she had were eye opening.
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Of the customers or Disney themselves?
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Executives using actresses from the parks as sex dolls and you just had to shut up and take it if you wanted to keep your shot at working in Hollywood.
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I've heard Castmembers who had the costume jobs had to deal with some shit
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There is a whole underground to Disneyland, and within it are plenty of places they regularly sexually assaulted performers.
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I'm aware, especially customers. It's such a problem certain characters got retired due to harassment I pity the Jessica Rabbits and Tarzans
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Like no one should have any love for Disney at all... I'm just going out on a limb to say... they are slightly less bad than Florida's politicians.
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I'm aware, especially customers. It's such a problem certain characters got retired due to harassment I pity the Jessica Rabbits and Tarzans
Yeah.
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Like no one should have any love for Disney at all... I'm just going out on a limb to say... they are slightly less bad than Florida's politicians.
Tbh, I have nothing but respect for its cast members, its animators, its artists, and yes, even a good chunk of its workers. I just hate Disney execs fundamentally. But I hate DeSatan more
10:35 PM
So, I consider the artists the true Disney, but the suits are unfortunately the hogging ticks of the Disney name
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So, I consider the artists the true Disney, but the suits are unfortunately the hogging ticks of the Disney name
Ehhh... dude was a racist, and there is the fact that in 1938, a month after Kristallnacht, Disney personally welcomed Nazi director Leni Riefenstahl to his studios
10:42 PM
So pretty much everything is tainted by that legacy. It's morphed from nearly Nazi to simply Capitalist over the years... but the world would have likely been better without Disney (the man and the company).
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/5/2023 11:10 PM
And my dad wonders why I don't want to work there.
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Eh, Ford is still worse imo
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Oh god, him
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/5/2023 11:25 PM
Good ol' Henry "Won a medal from the Nazis" Ford.
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BubsyFanboy 5/6/2023 10:35 AM
Some of the guests, including US first lady Jill Biden, also wore yellow and blue as they arrived at Westminster Abbey for the service
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10 bucks they engineered the attacks in order to justify the disarmament. Serbia has been going the way of fascism for a long while now, and they know intimately well how effective partisans are at fighting it.
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Idk. That's what people say about terror attacks and mass shootings here even, but I think there's enough mentally disturbed people in the world for there to be events like this
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I wouldn't rule out that theory completely though
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and USA is different from Serbia ofc but still, all it takes is one psychopath with one gun
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Idk. That's what people say about terror attacks and mass shootings here even, but I think there's enough mentally disturbed people in the world for there to be events like this
floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/6/2023 2:47 PM
quick reminder that there is no correlation between mental illness and mass shootings
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10 bucks they engineered the attacks in order to justify the disarmament. Serbia has been going the way of fascism for a long while now, and they know intimately well how effective partisans are at fighting it.
AvoidOblivion 5/6/2023 3:47 PM
The school shooting could not have been government orchestrated. The second one? A hateful neo-Nazi. I’d be open to the idea that the second was gov’t-made to push gun control, but won’t actively push it. It could very well be true.
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The school shooting could not have been government orchestrated. The second one? A hateful neo-Nazi. I’d be open to the idea that the second was gov’t-made to push gun control, but won’t actively push it. It could very well be true.
It is Serbia we're talking about. I really wouldn't put it past them.
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AvoidOblivion 5/6/2023 5:44 PM
Serbians aren’t often chill until you mention Kosovo.
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Serbians aren’t often chill until you mention Kosovo.
There is a whole lot of Milosevic stanning there. Don't forget that their cultural sense of superiority over the other southern slavs goes back to before WWI... and the majority sided with the capitulation government after Nazi occupation willingly. The only state there more inherently fascist is Slovenia... though recently it's been told to me that Croatia has been leaning right.
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quick reminder that there is no correlation between mental illness and mass shootings
Source por favor
6:14 PM
or is this something that defines a "mass shooting" as like "a shooting where more than two people are shot"
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It's complicated. To get an official diagnosis of Psychopathy they must score 30 or higher on a 40 point psychopathy checklist after multiple 2 hour interviews and dozens of hour long interviews with people who knew the person as a child and adult as well as access to all childhood records and public records as an adult (or at least as much as possible), it takes an evaluator weeks to decide on the final score. And then all the interviews and records have to be reviewed by someone else also qualified to score the checklist. The average score for an adult human is 4 out of 40. So aside from a huge part of the population just not ever being diagnosed at all who would score 30+ (an estimated 6% of men and 3% of women)... there is about 30% of the population who wouldn't be diagnosed as a psychopath even though they for example entirely lack empathy, an understanding of consequence, and have zero capacity for guilt. (edited)
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So many of these people could be psychopaths but cannot be officially diagnosed as such?
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And because a diagnosis of psychopathy inherently means a person can never be treated for it and overcome it, the vast majority of the psychiatric population shits on the research because it means there is no point for them to try to help "fix" these people.
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So many of these people could be psychopaths but cannot be officially diagnosed as such?
Cannot be or will not be because of the labor intensive process of diagnosing them... Absolutely. And those who are not diagnosable, are almost certainly somewhere in that 5-29 point range. (edited)
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Interesting
6:25 PM
I didn't know this much was required to be diagnosed
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I mean, it makes sense
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I didn't know this much was required to be diagnosed
That's why the DSM-5 doesn't include it as a diagnosis. Instead it relies on a much easier to diagnose Anti-Social Personality Disorder... something psychs believe can be treated, and doesn't require nearly as strict a diagnostic criteria.
6:27 PM
Wanna know something really fucked?
6:31 PM
The research into Psychopathy done from 1990 to 2015 (which is the latest date I've seen though I haven't had access to anything newer), shows that a roughly hour long session in an F-MRI machine can diagnose it. Because universally in people who have been diagnosed with a score of 30+ on the PCL-R (Psychopathy Checklist - Revised), an F-MRI imaging of their brain while being subjected to specific audio and visual stimuli will show a lack of brain function in the paralimbic center of the brain. (The part responsible for "What if" and guilt among other things.) It's just not functional in Psychopaths. Density studies show that that grey matter area is VASTLY less dense than people who score within the norm (0-4 points).
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The consensus among the researchers studying it is... that it is genetically linked, and the lack of brain density in those regions is irreparable currently. Caught early enough it's possible to do effectively brain physical therapy... teaching children with this problem to use those regions and thus develop more brain density. However there is a catch 22... most people do not develop this region till ~16-24 years old normally. So anyone under 24 shouldn't be diagnosed as a psychopath at all. Last I heard they were trying to isolate the gene-sequence combination responsible for this under-development and they had a good idea of which ones, but needed more study to be sure.
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Ultimately they are not getting any assistance from the psychology sectors because psychologists more or less all ascribe to the dogma that any disorder of the brain can be therapied away... so this research tells them they are not all godlike beings who can fix anyone... and they don't like that.
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you don't therapy away problems
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But eventually they will have to change that dogma... because there are other disorders that have been proven to be genetically linked, particularly those that they believe they should be able to fix, but cannot... like generational PTSD.
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therapy helps you adjust and deal with problems, but it does not cure it
6:40 PM
no therapist worth their fucking salt thinks their "godlike beings who can fix anyone"
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therapy helps you adjust and deal with problems, but it does not cure it
To go from disordered, to ordered.
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that's a red flag and likely to get your ass to lose your license
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no therapist worth their fucking salt thinks their "godlike beings who can fix anyone"
Well sadly the good therapists are practicing, while the shitty ones are deciding policy.
6:42 PM
Ask a psychologist in a casual setting their thoughts on the research done at the Mind Institute in NM in conjunction with UNM and the NM Prison system.
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and to be frank, is Psychopathy is basically a brain disorder, for lack of better terms, and the brain is basically a chemical machine
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a very incredibly one able to define its own meaning
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but still, chemicals and neuronetworks and shit
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and to be frank, is Psychopathy is basically a brain disorder, for lack of better terms, and the brain is basically a chemical machine
It may be a disorder, but it's one that is based on the lack of specific neuronal-networks.
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we just haven't figured out how to "build" those neuronal networks yet
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It's like being born with undersized livers.
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good arguement for stem research btw
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good arguement for stem research btw
I'm all for finding ways to stimulate growth in the paralimbic system... SO MANY lives would be saved.
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stem and stem cell btw
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both
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I'm also really glad I don't have any authority in the government, because I'd literally force every executive and capitalist to undergo that treatment.
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agreed... The Mind Institute also believes that the answer lies in stem-cell research.
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stem cells have potential to become new cells....would it be that hard to figure out to create the new pathways so..
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stem cells have potential to become new cells....would it be that hard to figure out to create the new pathways so..
IF one could figure out how to trigger stem-cells to become greymatter cells, and one could reliably figure out how to inject those cells into the paralimbic circuit of the brain without damaging other parts of the brain... sure. But the Paralimbic system is within the physical core of the brain starting deep within the frontal lobe, there is no path to it that doesn't go through other parts of the brain. (edited)
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yet
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Yeah. In the meantime, people with impaired paralimbic systems are breeding, their impairment is creating trauma in their children which creates a layer of paraphilia, which is the recepie for violent psychopathic behavior... especially rape, and exploitation of others.
6:53 PM
These people literally destroy other people's minds and bodies. They become executives and create starvation and death by exposure as well as destruction of the environment.
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What is the solution in the 20-200 years it will take us to figure that shit out?
6:54 PM
It is my belief that when you get past all the bullshit, this paralimbic system impairment spectrum is ultimately responsible for everything from rape to climate change.
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my counterpoint tho, is to be fair, this impairment doesn't necessarily affect their free will. Not every psychopath is a murderer, after all.
7:01 PM
I agree it probably leads to more problematic and selfish behaviors, but I also point out they still make that choice, its still on them
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my counterpoint tho, is to be fair, this impairment doesn't necessarily affect their free will. Not every psychopath is a murderer, after all.
The least problematic psychopath I know of led his brother to the Ebola cave because it sounded fun.
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I agree it probably leads to more problematic and selfish behaviors, but I also point out they still make that choice, its still on them
If a person cannot comprehend cause and effect, they cannot make informed choices.
7:29 PM
And the vast majority of diagnosable psychopaths totally lack the ability to imagine the outcome of an action.
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"I followed her into the bathroom and slammed her head against the shower wall several times and the bitch had the nerve to die."
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"So why did you kill her?" "I didn't, she died, I hit slammed her head against the wall because she was pushing my buttons."
7:33 PM
I've met a few in my life, and the conversations are always this weird flip between normal if disjointed conversation, and totally unable to grasp something a 5 year old should understand like if you drop a glass of milk, the glass will shatter and there will be milk everywhere. (edited)
7:35 PM
If you ask a psychopath what happens when they drop a glass of milk (if they've never done it before) they more than likely just stare blankly at you.
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my counterpoint tho, is to be fair, this impairment doesn't necessarily affect their free will. Not every psychopath is a murderer, after all.
Also murder is not the only way to totally fuck over people. Rapists who have been diagnosed as psychopaths usually have over 100 victims. Executives with some paralimbic impairment can make choices like... oh... keep making baby powder even though their own research lab tells them they will be responsible for giving millions of women cancer that only has a 4% survival rate.
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And then... market it to women as a feminine hygiene product.
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Managers with paralimbic impairment can deny their employees time off to be with their dying child.
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you don't therapy away problems
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Well. Don't tell that to the folks responsible for the DSM-5 or the psychs fighting against neurological research into everything from aphasia to Schizophrenia.
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Well. Don't tell that to the folks responsible for the DSM-5 or the psychs fighting against neurological research into everything from aphasia to Schizophrenia.
ive only ever met transphobic therapists
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ive only ever met transphobic therapists
nod also imagine trying to find a therapist who understands polyamory.
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Fuckers actually testify to get kids taken away from parents because of that same as they do in custody battles with a trans parent. (edited)
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Fuckers actually testify to get kids taken away from parents because of that same as they do in custody battles with a trans parent. (edited)
sigmund freud was wrong
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psychology is flawed
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at the roots
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and today its just a weapon to make young people look, feel, and eventually become crazy
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Generally I agree. Though it is steady moving away from those roots. I still prefer solid neurological research to psychoanalytical pseudo-science. (edited)
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the mental health system is just a gateway to institutions and so biotech and pharma can make a killing
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and today its just a weapon to make young people look, feel, and eventually become crazy
Well, I think it depends a lot on where you are seeking the treatment. My wife has some really complex shit going on and through Colorado's Medicaid program she's getting seemingly good help.
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Well, I think it depends a lot on where you are seeking the treatment. My wife has some really complex shit going on and through Colorado's Medicaid program she's getting seemingly good help.
im not saying no one can benifit
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but its a toxic slip and slide
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/7/2023 1:08 AM
It's like everything else in this system; a gamble.
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I was lucky enough to get diagnosed by a psychologist who wasn't a total asshat (was actually really chill).
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I was lucky enough to get diagnosed by a psychologist who wasn't a total asshat (was actually really chill).
I'm really hoping mine proves to be as she seemed on our first meeting. But yeah... it's absolutely a gamble.
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BubsyFanboy 5/7/2023 1:53 PM
PESHAWAR, Pakistan (AP) — Rallygoers for a political party in Pakistan beat to death a participant for allegedly making a blasphemous speech, police said Sunday. Local police officer Iqbal Khan said Maulana Nigar Alam, 40, was killed Saturday night by demonstrators in Sawaldher village of Mardan district northeast of Peshawar in Khyber Pakhtunk...
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This isn't uncommon in Pakistan
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Some people just can't take a joke.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/7/2023 4:44 PM
Jesus.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Jesus.
These fucks go hard when they are hiding behind a computer.
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Which is why it's important to expose them
4:50 PM
Hence why shit like gop groups and hate groups getting hacked to hell and back
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You also don't have to be a nazi to say that something is really f-ing stupid (edited)
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But it helps
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You also don't have to be a nazi to say that something is really f-ing stupid (edited)
And it's a hell of a good indicator of who you'll side with when it comes down to it.
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True. It is.
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The suspected gunman behind a mass shooting at a Dallas-area mall reportedly wore a patch on his chest that said “RWDS”—an acronym for Right Wing Death Squad.
10:38 PM
yesterday's shooter was a fucking Nazi, called it
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AvoidOblivion 5/7/2023 10:58 PM
Authorities are investigating a report of gunshots fired inside the St. Charles Towne Center in Waldorf, Maryland on Sunday.
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Now, how did that kid get a gun?
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considering Maryland, idiot parent who didn't lock their fucking guns
10:59 PM
there's a reason as soon as I get a gun, I'm getting a case/safe for it
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even if I plan to keep my guns and bullets separate 24/7 I don't want to risk shit with kids around
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/8/2023 1:34 AM
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AvoidOblivion 5/8/2023 7:15 AM
A suspect has been arrested after a Friday shooting at a Mississippi restaurant left one man dead and six people injured, according to local police.
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even if I plan to keep my guns and bullets separate 24/7 I don't want to risk shit with kids around
That's smart. I'm not as cautious, but no kids here, no kids come to my place.
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I'm okay with this actually. I think people should have the right to be armed for defense. With recent right wing violence on the rise, the one place I wish I could carry recently was my voting location.
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I'm okay with this actually. I think people should have the right to be armed for defense. With recent right wing violence on the rise, the one place I wish I could carry recently was my voting location.
You don't understand Texas has a history of voting intimidation.
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Sue them. They violated several fed discrimination clauses
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You don't understand Texas has a history of voting intimidation.
It just seems like having a group opposed to those fascist fucks would help, and it's better if they can be armed.
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It just seems like having a group opposed to those fascist fucks would help, and it's better if they can be armed.
A huge number of the fucks who want LGBTQIA+ folks dead are the ones who volunteer as election workers.
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That's messed up. Didn't think of that.
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this
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tbh I argue this is where groups like John Brown need to get involved in local politics and volunteer as poll workers and drive these fuckers out
11:26 AM
can't threaten them because they're armed and unified for the most part
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tbh I argue this is where groups like John Brown need to get involved in local politics and volunteer as poll workers and drive these fuckers out
While I don't think our system allows for anything to happen via electoralism... I do think that particularly as those people start dying (most are retirees) they should be replaced with allies. The issue is the same however as with voting. The most in need are the least free to do the thing. How many people here could take the day off to sit at a poll all day? I'd bet it's almost none.
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I could maybe do one day, my work might okay it.
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do it
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But I have a decent guess someone's going to make a dumb comment about the tall woman with the wrong gender marker on her license (fuck the Wisconsin DMV)
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But I have a decent guess someone's going to make a dumb comment about the tall woman with the wrong gender marker on her license (fuck the Wisconsin DMV)
They might, they might not. But that's probably all they will do. Most will honestly just respect that you are doing it. Serving as an election volunteer is seen as valuable community service by most of the folks who do it.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/8/2023 1:54 PM
Hey, so I have a friend from Nashville, and I’m wondering if any of our Tennessee friends have sources I get them to reach out to. NB of Color, and they have been worrying about their safety as well as health concerns lately, and I want to make sure they can get help if they need it
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NB as in non-binary, or as in non-black POC.
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AvoidOblivion 5/8/2023 5:06 PM
It's because the cartels can be hit and damaged by American policies and actions should Americans be killed by them. The cartels would lose power and money if they were to anger the US government. The police get away with it because when they do it, people protest and riot against them, and the police end up with more funding than before.
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NB as in non-binary, or as in non-black POC.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/8/2023 6:07 PM
Enby PoC
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They are black
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Enby PoC
Thanks for the clarification. Any specific concerns for them? I don't know if I know people near there, but I can ask around
6:17 PM
Can you check in the channel for the state?
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Thanks for the clarification. Any specific concerns for them? I don't know if I know people near there, but I can ask around
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/8/2023 6:28 PM
None explicitly, they’re just very concerned about the rising tide of the right
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Can you check in the channel for the state?
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/8/2023 6:32 PM
I’m not in the southern census region, but I’ll add it so I can keep them posted
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MisterStompy 5/8/2023 7:19 PM
Continuing the tradition of totalitarian death squads being massive fucking pussies that only shoot at people who can't shoot back.
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anyone paying attention to the debt ceiling situation?
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All my plans have asterisk on them: “*assuming the GOP doesn’t force the US to default, causing an enormous global depression”
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anyone paying attention to the debt ceiling situation?
Not really. This has been happening every few years for as long as I can remember
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They shutdown for a while and then raise the debt ceiling
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They shutdown for a while and then raise the debt ceiling
floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/8/2023 10:07 PM
Oh no, this is very different
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Those government shutdowns are when they run out of money in the yearly budget and can’t agree to add money
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This is an increase to the amount of money we can ever owe
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That is a whole different beast
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Once we hit that, we can’t keep borrowing money
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We’re done
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It’s a catastrophic thing
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We’re done
EVERYONE is done. Enemy of the US or not
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/8/2023 10:15 PM
true
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If getting cut from swift was a nuke, this would be the tzar bomba
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anyone paying attention to the debt ceiling situation?
AvoidOblivion 5/8/2023 10:19 PM
I’ve been paying some attention. Rep. Jeff Jackson, who represents the Charlotte area in the House, has been giving many updates on social media. He’s incredibly transparent compared to every single other politician I am aware of. (edited)
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Tbh I think Biden's gonna use the 14th and force the house to raise the ceiling.
10:39 PM
If they're dumb enough to sue and the SCOTUS is dumb enough to fucking say they have the right to, they earn the ire of every Corp on the God damn planet
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/8/2023 11:01 PM
The elements of capitalism shall be used to bring about its destruction
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Said by a shitty person but by God he seems to be right
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Aside from rank cruelty the debt ceiling limit doesn't make any sense. But screw you got mine has been the order of the day in the gop for a while now.
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yeah but now they fucked over Wall Street in doing so
11:52 PM
its like Disney vs DeSatan
11:52 PM
these idiots are gonna be beaten to death by pissed off corpos
11:53 PM
I swear to god, if Citizen United ends up being the GOP's undoing, I'll lose my shit
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It won't be the gop's undoing, it will be their reorganization. Corpos will go for the dems since they aren't the party of white nationalism with a dash of stupidity. Nationalism doesn't care for profit margins only to hurt everyone who isn't in the in group.
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Assuming the gop doesn't split
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it almost is like a more darkly fucked up reflection of the Whig party's demise
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The National Association of Government Employees (NAGE) filed a lawsuit to block enforcement of a law that sets the nation’s debt limit, arguing it is unconstitutional as a political divide over ra…
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congrats
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you just gave Biden the lead
11:59 PM
he gonna use the 14th NOW
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I’m not in the southern census region, but I’ll add it so I can keep them posted
I also saw on a related server they have a state specific channel, might be worth joining and pinging them there: https://discord.gg/fpQX2Rx7
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I also saw on a related server they have a state specific channel, might be worth joining and pinging them there: https://discord.gg/fpQX2Rx7
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/9/2023 12:08 PM
I'd be careful. That server is dangerously close to becoming a terrorist group.
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Didn't see that, I'll be careful.
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Didn't see that, I'll be careful.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/9/2023 12:10 PM
They've also got an IRA stan in there.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
They've also got an IRA stan in there.
I might need context here to understand that one.
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I might need context here to understand that one.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/9/2023 12:12 PM
There was none. They literally said this out of nowhere.
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Like I said, either a terrorist group or seriously infested by feds.
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No, I mean like I don't necessarily get how that links them to the IRA, I wasn't sure if there was context I'm missing.
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Being for an independent Ireland isn't exactly the same thing.
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No, I mean like I don't necessarily get how that links them to the IRA, I wasn't sure if there was context I'm missing.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/9/2023 12:17 PM
Most of their posts were glorifying the IRA in some capacity.
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I think I got in an argument over it with them once.
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Idk, I'm mostly there for the memes, and to keep an ear out for stuff going on.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
They've also got an IRA stan in there.
joe hill’s revenge 5/9/2023 2:53 PM
Ira is based
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Ira is based
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/9/2023 2:53 PM
Maybe at the start but not now.
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Ira is based
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joe hill’s revenge 5/9/2023 3:06 PM
Why not
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Why not
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/9/2023 3:06 PM
Collateral damage for one.
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Being so inept that your bomb winds up at a kid's birthday is anything but based.
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MisterStompy 5/9/2023 3:49 PM
uh oh
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/9/2023 5:02 PM
So I thought of something
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A “Bathroom bill” that mandates a set minimum for bathrooms, like a set number of stalls for certain building sizes, and then buried deep inside a subheading or some shit deep in the middle or something that band anti-trans bullshit, and explicitly protects trans rights, like the rights to use the right bathrooms, and play on the correct sports teams for their gender (edited)
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uh oh
floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/9/2023 5:06 PM
what’s he even talking about
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what’s he even talking about
MisterStompy 5/9/2023 5:06 PM
Jury found him responsible for sexual assault and defamation.
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Donald Trump sexually abused magazine writer E. Jean Carroll in the 1990s and then defamed her by branding her a liar, jurors decided on Tuesday and awarded her $5 million in damages.
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Yeah was a civil suit. No prison time, no sex offender registration, and more importantly... no felony which would disqualify him from running.
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Federal prosecutors have filed criminal charges against New York Rep. George Santos, the Republican lawmaker whose astonishing pattern of lies and fabrications stunned even hardened politicos, according to three sources familiar with the matter.
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joe hill’s revenge
Why not
Irish unification doesn't make much sense either. Most of Northern Ireland wanted to remain in the UK during the 1910s-20s and still do today
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At least he's a few million dollars poorer... but his idiotic supporters will likely donate enough money to cover this in time
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Irish unification doesn't make much sense either. Most of Northern Ireland wanted to remain in the UK during the 1910s-20s and still do today
I'm not so sure it's as cut and dry as it was then. Besides, We've got a year before Star Trek prophesized the unification.
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CALLED IT
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Santos has been arrested
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BREAKING: Rep. George Santos was arrested on federal criminal charges including wire fraud, money laundering and lying to Congress, the U.S. attorney's office says. The New York Republican became infamous for fabricating key parts of his life story. https://t.co/W9cYBcSti2
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/10/2023 10:43 AM
WAIT
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REALLY???
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LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO
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MisterStompy 5/10/2023 12:57 PM
I can't believe they did this to one of the inventors of the airplane.
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dont they know he has an orphan fundation to run?
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to think that just next week he was about to fly to the moon for a caritative fundraising for victims of ligma 😔 THE DEMONRATS HAVE NO SHAME
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dont they know he has an orphan fundation to run?
MisterStompy 5/10/2023 1:17 PM
He also got Bin Laden.
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He also got Bin Laden.
a national hero, and that's how the libs treat him!
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honestly i'm rereading his accusations and there is not even a need to make things up lmfao, dude literally claimed he was jew(ish) and catholic at the same time, fucking hilarious
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his false claim issues entry on wikipedia is longer than my prime minister wiki page 🤣
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honestly i'm rereading his accusations and there is not even a need to make things up lmfao, dude literally claimed he was jew(ish) and catholic at the same time, fucking hilarious
AvoidOblivion 5/10/2023 1:23 PM
I don't see too much of a problem with having Jew(ish) blood and being a practicing Catholic. I am strongly Jewish in blood, but was baptized and raised Lutheran. My father is also Protestant.
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I don't see too much of a problem with having Jew(ish) blood and being a practicing Catholic. I am strongly Jewish in blood, but was baptized and raised Lutheran. My father is also Protestant.
oh yeah by ethnicity + religion it could make sense, except that he also claimed the religious part too
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/10/2023 1:24 PM
My mother was raised Catholic yet we have some Jewish blood, and now I’m some weird amalgamation of Buddhism and Sikhism
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ethnicity and religion is simply a coincidence
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dude seems to be a pretty advanced pathological liar though
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to think that just next week he was about to fly to the moon for a caritative fundraising for victims of ligma 😔 THE DEMONRATS HAVE NO SHAME
CRY HARDER, YOUR TEARS FEED MY VICTORY GARDEN /s obviously
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demon cats?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/10/2023 2:46 PM
Honestly it’s the fight we need to dig our teeth into the hardest
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Unfortunately that's already proven to be impossible amongst communists
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hmmm, the taste of gop tears
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It's almost like they've always just been full of hot air.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 5/10/2023 3:32 PM
Fascists be like; "Transgenderism must be eradicated!" Also fascists: "Oh, trans people have a higher chance of self-harm or suicide attempts? Eh, must be because they're insane. Definitely not because the government is trying to fucking kill them or anything." ALSO ALSO fascists: "Trans people are the most protected group in America!"
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/10/2023 3:35 PM
Doublethink is a hell of a thing.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 5/10/2023 3:35 PM
They'll tell you that the government protects us and with no source backing up that claim... wonder why.
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Like, if we're so protected, how come it's socially acceptable to say we should be ERADICATED?? WHICH IS ANOTHER WORD FOR KILLED OR EXECUTED.
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KILL IS LITERALLY ONE OF THE SYNONYMS, YOU CAN'T TELL ME THAT MICHEAL KNOWLES WASN'T IMPLYING HE WANTS US DEAD.
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Funny, what Micheal Knowles is saying about trans people is the same thing Hitler was saying about jews. Yet people say there's no trans genocide.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/10/2023 5:07 PM
Yikes
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A U.S. Army sergeant was sentenced to 25 years in a Texas prison on Wednesday for killing a man at a protest against police brutality in 2020, setting the stage for Governor Greg Abbott to make good on a pledge to grant a pardon.
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SemiReliable 5/10/2023 5:49 PM
If you ain't standing with the trans homies, I'm not standing with you, full stop
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Funny, what Micheal Knowles is saying about trans people is the same thing Hitler was saying about jews. Yet people say there's no trans genocide.
And trans people and gay people. Not like we were spared.
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Sense of dread whenever I hear "Texas" in the news. "What fresh hell is this?"
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SemiReliable 5/10/2023 7:38 PM
If anyone is unaware, the most dangerous Jew in Germany (according to Hitler) was a man named Magnus Hirschfeld. He was a doctor and the world authority on sex, sexuality, and gender, back when psychology was barely a field of study. The books the Nazis burned (the first round, anyway) was all of the research from the Institute for Sexual Science. The American right has put their own spin on it, but the playbook is the same. I think trans folk are the easiest targets to otherize because of their low demographic percentage and the easy association with sexual "deviancy" You mix in the antisemitism (the Jews are weakening our strong, white men by sissyfying them or whatever) and it's just more of the same shit from the 30s.
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A leading researcher of sex, sexuality, and gender, German Jewish doctor Magnus Hirschfeld was forced to live in exile after the Nazi rise to power.
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Further reading on my boy Dr. Hirschfeld
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It was just the anniversary of the burning of the institute a few days ago.
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Florida is gonna bankrupt itself in a few days. Literally no fields are being picked, and no construction sites are being built, and warehouses are devoid of all employees. Because if you can't show your greencard or social security card each day you work, you don't work that day. Gotta be billions of dollars per day lost revenue.
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Incidentally, all the workers left the state... permanent strike. Gone to a state where they can work without harassment.
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Got ten bucks Florida expands their Recall law to include state level elected officials pretty quickly.
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And piss off the farmer of other state
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Even wealthy mother fuckers will eat other wealthy motherfuckers
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Florida is gonna bankrupt itself in a few days. Literally no fields are being picked, and no construction sites are being built, and warehouses are devoid of all employees. Because if you can't show your greencard or social security card each day you work, you don't work that day. Gotta be billions of dollars per day lost revenue.
As great as sticking it to desatan is, do you have any information on this?
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As great as sticking it to desatan is, do you have any information on this?
Videos of empty fields and construction sites all over Florida, Empty warehouses too... it's all over spanish speaking twitter.
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Oh. I don't have Twitter so I wouldn't know
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The first day his law went into effect all the migrant/undocumented workers showed up for work but weren't allowed to do so... this is just the continuation of that. If they can't work in Florida... they will go elsewhere.
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Videos showed sites with hundreds of workers just standing around wondering what to do next that first day.
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And now videofeed is showing them gone? (edited)
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Am I getting this right?
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And now videofeed is showing them gone? (edited)
Literally entirely devoid of workers other than a few management/foremen. Yup.
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Local documented folks who stayed behind are sharing videos of their totally shutdown workplaces.
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And the law extends to literally every industry/business. So it will/does effect everything from agriculture to tourism. (edited)
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Alright. Thanks; I'm a bit skeptical of claims like this so I wanted to ask if you had anything concrete.
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Apoligies if it came off as dismissive
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Apoligies if it came off as dismissive
No worries, the videos are impressive in their wasteland feel... huge apartment complex construction sites half finished empty today where last Friday there were thousands of workers. Warehouses completely empty of people but full of goods. All mid day during the week.
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Why don't the employers just lie and say these people showed ID?
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or are they afraid of inspectors and such?
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considering DeSatan literally trying to investigate disney for crimes, its a valid fear
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surprisingly
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that said, it wouldn't surprise me if Florida tries to lower the working age too
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which brings to mind a Idea I've been musing but I don't want to say it here
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AND ITS HIT THE NIGHTLY NEWS
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/11/2023 12:24 AM
By Sarah Mervosh and Dana Goldstein
The state objected to content on topics like the Black Lives Matter movement, socialism and why some citizens ‘take a knee’ during the national anthem.
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BubsyFanboy 5/11/2023 4:31 AM
The Kremlin said on Wednesday that Poland's decision to rename the Russian city of Kaliningrad in its official documents was a "hostile act", as ties continue to fray over the Ukraine war.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/11/2023 9:59 AM
Pentagon has reportedly made plans for hitting opponents with genetically engineered weapons. The genomic data of Asian Chinese, European Aryans and Middle Eastern Arabs all on a list to be collected by the US military.
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BubsyFanboy 5/11/2023 10:08 AM
Someone pointed out how stupid it is to call Canada a "communist dictatorship" and got this in return
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Side note: some of their mods are legit Nazis (edited)
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Side note: some of their mods are legit Nazis (edited)
I mean they are Libertarians afterall.
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BubsyFanboy 5/11/2023 10:37 AM
I still remember when their moderation was mostly hands-free
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Then they let some notoriously abusive moderator in and it became locked exclusively to people who agree 100% with the Mises Caucus.
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Then they let some notoriously abusive moderator in and it became locked exclusively to people who agree 100% with the Mises Caucus.
Playbook move.
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I still remember when their moderation was mostly hands-free
I miss the days where you could mock libertarianism all day on that sub and the mods were too libertarian to care
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Mises Libertarians are just conservatives with further right wing economics
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/11/2023 10:13 PM
North Carolina Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson, the state's first Black lieutenant governor and the GOP front-runner for the 2024 gubernatorial race, repeatedly lambasted the "so-called" 1960s Civil Rights Movement, lamenting that "so many freedoms were lost during the civil rights movement."
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Why do republicans choose religion to hide behind?
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That is not for people like me to decide. I learned long ago that the black community does just fine calling out their problematic members without my help.
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Why do republicans choose religion to hide behind?
Because religion placed/places itself (ironically via violent force in literally all cases, as far as major religious groups go) as the supreme moral authority on earth. When a god tells you that you are in the right whatever your actions are, then no mortal can claim you are wrong. (edited)
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Someone pointed out how stupid it is to call Canada a "communist dictatorship" and got this in return
Hello fellow "banned from r/libertarian" member.
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I miss the days where you could mock libertarianism all day on that sub and the mods were too libertarian to care
Thought it was still like that. LOL NOPE.
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which is good but also makes sense
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they acknowledged earlier trans kids do have the right to sign up for their gendered sport
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(aka a trans girl can play girl sports)
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tbh they probably did it in part to avoid the absolute raw fucking Dobbs gave them
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Alito is corrupt as fuck but he knows his decision was a bad one and that as soon as he steps outside of the courthouse, he's gonna get ripped apart
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also likely to brace themselves for the deal with the 14th
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A bill backed by right-wing extremists such as Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene would remove special no-fly zones from Disney World and Disneyland.
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aaand here comes the rich people infighting
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/12/2023 10:58 PM
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis signed several "medical freedom" measures into law on Thursday.
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George Santos’s listed treasurer Andrew Olson hasn't been identified as a treasurer to any political committee outside of Santos's.
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if i was george santos i would simply not be a pathological liar
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/13/2023 12:45 AM
The state’s education department also forced another textbook to remove a reference to “social justice” in the Hebrew Bible.
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You don't agree? Ok, maybe the Holocaust can be mentioned in schoolbooks once, but only in the sentence, "America single-handedly stopped the Holocaust and killed the socialist dictator Adolf Hitler in 1945."
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Black Magic 5/13/2023 3:47 AM
Desantis grandfather stormed the beach along with his friends, fought the socialist nazis with his bare hands. Personally defeated herman goring in a dog fight and when hitler learned he was coming, he killed him self, ending the war
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President Roosevelt wanted to congratulate Grandpa desantis, but he was too woke, so he instead had a glass of wine with his good friend Patton, who helped him end the war. Grandpa desantis was sad when his friend was killed and he always suspected woke president Roosevelt
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Next year in history we learn about the birth of dear governor, and how he defeated Michael Jordan in a pick up game as a kid of just 8years.
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And those Pacifist enablers who just love to hate the west, I've got them on the list, I've got them on the list!!!
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And those Pacifist enablers who just love to hate the west, I've got them on the list, I've got them on the list!!!
No 👏 more 👏 Mikado👏
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/13/2023 12:12 PM
XD
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Sadly, Pacifism is not viable in this world
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beware when someone says that they are a pacifist
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beware when someone says that they are a pacifist
Pacifist is just liberal hot white girl summer.
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But seriously, it's almost entirely just white yoga instructors who's brand is female empowerment and who host all girl yoga retreats up where I am. Open bumble or tinder up in the rockies and you will find them by the score.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/13/2023 12:19 PM
I'm sure they'd not be missed
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I'm sure they'd not be missed
The manbun rafting "guides" would miss them.
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Who else would they be able to convince to come back to their tent or van conversion off grid for a quickie?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/13/2023 12:22 PM
lol
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President Roosevelt wanted to congratulate Grandpa desantis, but he was too woke, so he instead had a glass of wine with his good friend Patton, who helped him end the war. Grandpa desantis was sad when his friend was killed and he always suspected woke president Roosevelt
as if Patton wouldn't kick DeSantis' grandpa's ass. Man was relatively ahead of his time and also was one of the people who proposed killing all nazis for their crimes.
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Pacifist is just liberal hot white girl summer.
as a technical pacifist, gonna have to disagree. Pacifism is good, but I believe it should be of the technical variety. It works as a good inner-circle method, but those who wish to ruin peace should be racked among the coals otherwise.
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I want to be chill and hang out
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never mistake that for being weak
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its a fatal mistake
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/13/2023 1:26 PM
Oh I completely understand that, I was refrering to the 'You know who's' of the political world if you know what I mean
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/13/2023 1:34 PM
A commitment to non-violence is admirable but one must also realize that not everyone will share that commitment.
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In fact, some are committed to violence first and foremost.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/13/2023 1:39 PM
Yup
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Likewise, Violence...is a privilege Arguably
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Some people can get away with violence more with lesser consequences and I argue that while it is a tool, it SHOULD be the last resort
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/13/2023 2:00 PM
I can agree to that
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Likewise, Violence...is a privilege Arguably
and the state has a monopoly on it baby
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Technically that's not entirely true either
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The state having the monopoly is civilization 101. You HAVE to have it
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/13/2023 2:13 PM
anarchism has entered the chat
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Communist? State still has monopoly Anarchist? state still has power
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If a system is in control, regardless of political leanings, that IS the state
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So yes, a Anarchist Commune is still a state
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That said, I do believe (dem soc) that the people SHOULD be the state, and by extension, that monopoly of violence is in their hands, but likewise I also believe said violence should, ya know, be regulated
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But when I say that's not always the case, I often refer to criminal elements being another group with a monopoly of violence
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When I say Violence is a privilege, I don't always refer to the state, but anyone who can manipulate the consequences of using Violence as a method
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So yes, a Anarchist Commune is still a state
this makes as much sense as the average haz argument
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If this country, any country, were to be replaced with Anarchist style government period then they are a state.
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State just means whatever system is in place dude.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/13/2023 2:49 PM
A state is a centralized political organization that imposes and enforces rules over a population within a territory. There is no undisputed definition of a state. One widely used definition comes from the German sociologist Max Weber: a "state" is a polity that maintains a monopoly on the legitimate use of violence, although other definitions ...
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/13/2023 2:59 PM
Hot ass take: What-A-Burger is fucking ass, and the only reason people think they’re good is because it’s the only vaguely successful Fast Food Place from Texas, and Texans are just narcissistic cultist who don’t t know what good food is
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I’m posting this here because I hate Texas, and their food is ass
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/13/2023 3:00 PM
Never had What-A-Burger so I can't comment
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If this country, any country, were to be replaced with Anarchist style government period then they are a state.
>anarchist style >government
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/13/2023 3:01 PM
either way, I'm a very happy man with my Mcchicken and ice tea
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/13/2023 3:02 PM
You want quality burgers? Go to The Habit.
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Seconded
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>anarchist style >government
Do you have a system that lay-out ground rules for people to follow? Congrats, you're running a system of government.
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Do you have a system that lay-out ground rules for people to follow? Congrats, you're running a system of government.
the body of persons that constitutes the governing authority of a political unit or organization: such as; the officials comprising the governing body of a political unit and constituting the organization as an active agency… See the full definition
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either way, I'm a very happy man with my Mcchicken and ice tea
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/13/2023 3:11 PM
McChicken is surprisingly good, and McDonalds has shockingly good sweet tea
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/13/2023 3:11 PM
Yessss
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its simple but sooo goood
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literally the only thing I order when I go there
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/13/2023 3:12 PM
You ever see two people making arguements so unconvincing that you can’t help but feel like they’re both wrong? Cause that’s how I feel seeing @dest @Aces high argue this
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You ever see two people making arguements so unconvincing that you can’t help but feel like they’re both wrong? Cause that’s how I feel seeing @dest @Aces high argue this
i'm barely even making an argument bro's just digging their own grave
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/13/2023 3:13 PM
No shade to either of you, I have no stake here, but like, neither of you are being convincing to someone
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Outside the arguement
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I'm not making a argument. Just pointing out a logic here that he seems to take offense to
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Sides, his definitions don't go against what I said either
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bro you just don't understand anarchism we get it
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/13/2023 3:17 PM
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And you don't understand definitions of words
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Oh, and I get anarchist thought just fine. Strongly disagree with it due to personal experiences and think it's doesn't factor human nature imo, but I can understand it.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/13/2023 3:20 PM
I second @floppunism [BOI, ID]
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And you don't understand definitions of words
"Anarchism is a political philosophy and movement that is skeptical of all justifications for authority and seeks to abolish the institutions it claims maintain unnecessary coercion and hierarchy, typically including, though not necessarily limited to, governments, nation states, and capitalism."
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wikipedia
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shit's crazy
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Oh, and I get anarchist thought just fine. Strongly disagree with it due to personal experiences and think it's doesn't factor human nature imo, but I can understand it.
centuries of anarchist theory vs "but what about human nature tho"
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And how well has that theory done in practical applications in real life and actual governance without compromise or conceding to other leftist thought? It works small scale but once you expand past that, problems will show up.
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And how well has that theory done in practical applications in real life and actual governance without compromise or conceding to other leftist thought? It works small scale but once you expand past that, problems will show up.
and where has democratic socialism worked
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"A democratic socialist believes that the government should provide a range of essential services to the public for free or at a significant discount, such as health care and education. Unlike socialists, democratic socialists do not believe the government should control all aspects of the economy, only help provide basic needs and help all of its citizens have an equal chance of success."
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are we sure this website is accurate
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yes
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because even fucking wikipedia has a list
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"A democratic socialist believes that the government should provide a range of essential services to the public for free or at a significant discount, such as health care and education. Unlike socialists, democratic socialists do not believe the government should control all aspects of the economy, only help provide basic needs and help all of its citizens have an equal chance of success."
so you're not a fucking socialist you're a socdem with a funny name
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I said I was a dem soc
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but the soc part seems to not come into play
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...yeah it does
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do the workers own the means of production
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in any of those countries
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I just think essentials should be provided by the government and that workers ARE the government
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do the workers own the means of production
indirectly, most of them yes, or at least are unionized to hell and back
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so true socialism is when unions and when everyone's in a big union that's communism
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....no that's not it at all wtf
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socialism has everything working for the government but is still, in theory, voted in via unions
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....no that's not it at all wtf
that was a very obvious joke
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communism is...communism not tolerated here because fuck tankies but in theory its the state is everyone's boss and serves the people. In theory because of course that shit inevitably fucks up.
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dest
that was a very obvious joke
use /s
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that is serious, use /s
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your shit can be taken out of context and used against you
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bro take it out of context all you want
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communism is...communism not tolerated here because fuck tankies but in theory its the state is everyone's boss and serves the people. In theory because of course that shit inevitably fucks up.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/13/2023 4:04 PM
Look, this is the political channel, not the fucking shit-show Circus channel. Ffs you too, chill the hell out, you’re both making you’re opinions look terrible
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking
Look, this is the political channel, not the fucking shit-show Circus channel. Ffs you too, chill the hell out, you’re both making you’re opinions look terrible
bro he just said communism is a tankie ideology do you want me to let that slide
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/13/2023 4:14 PM
I’d expect you to not argue in such an ass hat way
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Yo, I don't check this channel for a couple hours and what the fuck did I return to?
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I can't even begin to respond to this shitshow.
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@floppunism [BOI, ID] Can you decipher this shit for me?
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Yo, I don't check this channel for a couple hours and what the fuck did I return to?
i got in an argument with some guy
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dest
i got in an argument with some guy
But what the fuck about? Because I'm not seeing anything coherent. Something something Anarchism is bad mmmkay because human nature?
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He threw a fit when I pointed out that a anarchist commune could be defined as a type of state and by extension, an government
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He threw a fit when I pointed out that a anarchist commune could be defined as a type of state and by extension, an government
i said two things and one of them was a meme
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He threw a fit when I pointed out that a anarchist commune could be defined as a type of state and by extension, an government
Ummm a decision-making group is not inherently a state or government.
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i would largely not qualify that as "throwing a fit"
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Ummm a decision-making group is not inherently a state or government.
that's what i'm fuckin sayin
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Ummm a decision-making group is not inherently a state or government.
but it can become such, especially if its the only sense of order around
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@floppunism [BOI, ID] Can you decipher this shit for me?
floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/13/2023 4:23 PM
i'm honestly not in the mood to engage with a conversation like this and have been ignoring it
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but it can become such, especially if its the only sense of order around
The crux is, does the decisionmaking body make decisions for people who aren't part of the body.
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If yes, then state.
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If no, then not state.
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i'm honestly not in the mood to engage with a conversation like this and have been ignoring it
Fair.
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If no, then not state.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/13/2023 4:25 PM
Frankly, I have some issues with that definition, but same as flop, I’m not interested in engaging, and so I’ll take that for now
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same
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that said, I would have ignored him, but then he said I was digging my own grave, taking my shit outta context I was trying to explain
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Okay but why the hyperbolic bullshit about human nature as a foil to anarchism?
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I guess I need to break out the link again.
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Sam Dolgoff Misconceptions of Anarchism 1986 This talk discussed the main principles of constructive anarchism.
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Chew on that a while before discussing anarchism again. Particularly if a person is intent on breaking out tired old debunked propaganda on the subject as a means to shit on it.
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Oh, and I get anarchist thought just fine. Strongly disagree with it due to personal experiences and think it's doesn't factor human nature imo, but I can understand it.
First, your personal experiences with humans are coated in humans living within extreme isolation socially, and under conditions of failing capitalist oligarchic control, with a strong conditioning towards radical individualism. And it appears your understanding of "human nature" is based entirely on that context. When the scientific reality of it is, human nature is based on the structure of the brain as it has developed from our earliest primate ancestors. Primarily concerning the Limbic/Paralimbic system of the brain. This is the center of the brain responsible for the majority of our human capacity that is not shared with all other mammals. This is the center of the brain that can determine cause and effect, it can as what if and imagine an answer, it can feel based on external input (IE: empathy), and absolutely critically to this conversation, it rewards us with a chemical high when we help others... or even when we see other people help others... and it's not limited to helping other humans, it's also helping animals. This is what separates humans from nearly all other animal life on earth. And thus IS "human nature". This was the structure of the brain responsible for primates 4 million years ago nursing an injured member of their tribe back to health when the subject's femur was broken. It was protected from predators, fed, and sheltered till the break healed and the primate went on to die of old age. So if you want to argue against anarchism... use some other means than "human nature"... because anarchism is absolutely centered on the fact that these brain systems operate normally within the majority of the population. Ask what ifs if you like regarding people with genetically deficient paralimbic systems (like psychopaths), or who's paralimbic system was impaired by childhood trauma (like narcissists). But don't pretend human nature is the cause of anarchism's weaknesses... it's really not.
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Every natural disaster brings a new wave of examples of this "human nature"... millions of people dedicating a portion of their time to helping people afflicted by that disaster. It is why flawed or not charity has been a universal aspect of human cultures as far back as we have records of it. Every language on earth has a term for charitable acts... some of them have dozens of nuanced terms for it.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/13/2023 5:01 PM
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Should be in memes but valid
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/13/2023 5:16 PM
Shut up
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This is about you, Spinner, and Des
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I agree with you politically in general, but you made the criticism I have look like shit
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elon musk moment
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free speech absolutist defending censorship again 🤣
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/13/2023 6:40 PM
look who's talking about having their brain falling out
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/13/2023 7:29 PM
Abortion providers feared they’d see an increase in harassment and threats if Roe v Wade was overturned. They were right.
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MisterStompy 5/13/2023 10:24 PM
Nobody wants to be around him
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If the governor does not act on the bill within thirty days after the adjournment of the reconvened session, the bill shall become law without his signature.
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welp, I hope ya'll Virginians stocked up on fap material, your not gonna have access to pornhub or similar sites for awhile (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/14/2023 1:13 AM
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/14/2023 1:15 AM
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A quick guide for how to follow a Turkish election. Voting is now underway and closes at 5pm Turkish time. From 6pm to 9pm, only results from the Supreme Election Council can be shared. From 9pm onwards, the media can start commentating on results and venture predictions.
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Please not erdogan 🙏
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CHP observers in Adıyaman claim they were forced away from the ballot boxes and that multiple people entered the cabin to vote
CHP claims that in one Urfa village their ballot box attendants were beaten up - then later a video emerged of the AKP contingent stamping all the votes for Erdoğan
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"its not a gun problem its a mental health problem" btw
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"wait why are they denying us medical care"
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MisterStompy 5/14/2023 11:45 AM
Refuse to treat Trump supporters, it's very simple
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The Montana Supreme Court unanimously extended abortion protections in the state on Friday – amid an ongoing effort by the GOP governor and legislators to erode women's medical rights.
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The LGBT community in Montana should take the new laws to the supreme court. They'll probably side with them.
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Leftist anarchist views of small government seem to be an entirely different view than conservative small government. Conservative small government just seems to be removing restrictions for large organizations.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 5/14/2023 12:43 PM
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRK47LT7/ Matt Walsh and Elon Musk together is a shit sandwich
#duet with @Amaury Guichon #elonmuskisthegreatest #elonmuskisadouche #mattwalshistheworst #Mattwalsh #jordanneely
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preliminary results are trickling in in turkey
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current trends may mean we might have an opposition victory today for the presidential election, but it might not be the case
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erdogan at 52% with 30% of the votes. Last time, at 30% votes he had 58% and his final result was 52%
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election going to second round most likely, with erdogan around 49% and kilicdaroglu around 45%
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likely to be a victory for erdogan in second round....
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Black Magic 5/14/2023 4:58 PM
It does seem like there’s some Fuckery going on
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Will be interesting to see
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AvoidOblivion 5/14/2023 5:00 PM
Is anyone going to be surprised if Erdogan wins by a considerable margin despite trailing in pre-election polls?
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Black Magic 5/14/2023 5:07 PM
I’m not sure that would fly
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Black Magic 5/14/2023 5:29 PM
Turkey could squander it’s destiny if Erodgan does anything too obvious
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/14/2023 5:49 PM
That is 150% unconstitutional. It’s unbelievably illegal and unethical
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That is 150% unconstitutional. It’s unbelievably illegal and unethical
They've been shown to give zero shits about the constitution.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/14/2023 7:09 PM
Well, let’s see if we can’t sue them
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@waltermasterson For people curious, this is the dude in question. I'm in TEARS!!! 😂
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Apparently gays against groomers is run by a proud boy
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/15/2023 2:18 AM
What are those fucking names?
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Hell if I know
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/15/2023 3:17 PM
A case of a mistaken counterfeit leaves woman without cash or the pre-WWII item
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MisterStompy 5/15/2023 6:49 PM
OH DEAR
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Elon Musk is the latest big name issued a subpoena by the U.S. Virgin Islands for its lawsuit against JPMorgan Chase over sex trafficking by Jeffrey Epstein.
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I mean yeah lots of rich people met up with Epstein because that's what rich people do, but idk about any of them getting subpoena'd over it (edited)
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I mean yeah lots of rich people met up with Epstein because that's what rich people do, but idk about any of them getting subpoena'd over it (edited)
i want all of them to get subpoena'd over it
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i want all of them to get subpoena'd over it
MisterStompy 5/15/2023 7:05 PM
I mean yeah
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i want all of them to get subpoena'd over it
There isn't a single reason any one of them could have met with him that wasn't absolutely immoral if not outright evil. I'm good with every single one of them dying as a result of meeting him.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/15/2023 7:47 PM
A%20former%20associate%20is%20suing%20Rudy%20Giuliani%20for%20sexual%20assault%20and%20harassment.
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wait did we not already know he was a sexual harasser
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i remember this being a thing a while back
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/15/2023 10:21 PM
BREAKING: sexual abuse suit against Rudy Giuliani includes bombshell allegation Giuliani told alleged victim he was "SELLING PARDONS" for $2,000,000 each "which he and Trump would split" AND SHE HAS RECORDINGS AND EMAILS https://t.co/WxyEPaJamK
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Well that's not the MOST illegal thing done under that presidency, but it's pretty well up there in the top 10.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/16/2023 2:09 AM
In a secret audio recording, a GOP official outlines plans — tinted by hints of violence and the assurance that God is on their side — to turn Kansas into a conservative sanctuary.
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Somebody get John Brown.
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fuck this state but at the same time at least we aren't florida
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fuck this state but at the same time at least we aren't florida
yet
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florida would vote in hitler himself as governor
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we would only go up to like margaret thatcher
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BubsyFanboy 5/16/2023 8:24 AM
Taiwan’s legislature passed a bill Tuesday that granted same-sex couples the right to jointly adopt a child neither of them are related to, clearing one of the final hurdles in achieving full marriage equality.
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Frederick Piratin 5/16/2023 11:55 AM
Hey, is anyone here part of DSA? I ask because the national convention is this year, and I'm worried about the convention being dominated by tankies. I'm going to be a delegate to the convention myself this year, and I'm particularly worried about stopping the passage of the anti-Ukraine proposal that I know is being put forward by the tankies in the International Committee (the tankies love to gravitate towards foreign policy). https://s3.amazonaws.com/actionkit-dsausa/dsa/2023_DSA_Convention_Compendium.pdf (edited)
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I have the same questions
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/16/2023 2:40 PM
Satire from what I've heard.
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Damnnn, yeah their posts seem very cointelbro / pro cop
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/16/2023 3:02 PM
bro has our symbol nooo
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got banned for being too funny
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love that guy
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Seems op-ish
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/16/2023 3:28 PM
What kinda op tho? Like Pro-Us or Like, Pro-Tankie, Anti-Us? What the hell
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Like anti anti fascist, slander
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/16/2023 4:06 PM
Ah gotcha
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/16/2023 4:08 PM
pretty sure it’s just a joke
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MisterStompy 5/16/2023 4:38 PM
This battle became one of the rare occasions American and Russian combatants exchanged fire—one of the deadliest battles the Americans had faced in Syria.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/16/2023 6:21 PM
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) signed a bill into law Monday barring the state’s colleges and universities from spending money on diversity, equity and inclusion programs, and limiting how race can be discussed in many courses. “If you look at the way this has actually been…
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I receive: PTSD You receive: 55-100 dead + up to 200 wounded + PTSD
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The only thing that gives me a bigger erection than this is looking at the Gulf War stats and Operation Inherent Resolve stats.
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OIR was like 70 Allied troops and civilians dead vs 70,000 jihadists dead
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Hey, is anyone here part of DSA? I ask because the national convention is this year, and I'm worried about the convention being dominated by tankies. I'm going to be a delegate to the convention myself this year, and I'm particularly worried about stopping the passage of the anti-Ukraine proposal that I know is being put forward by the tankies in the International Committee (the tankies love to gravitate towards foreign policy). https://s3.amazonaws.com/actionkit-dsausa/dsa/2023_DSA_Convention_Compendium.pdf (edited)
good
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im a member
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but i dont know if i could make it
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cannot travel currently
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Republicans and Evangelicals in particular seem to have the idea that they are the "Right" people and everyone they disagree with them are the "Wrong" people. Where did they get that idea from?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/17/2023 12:16 AM
YES, THIS IS SO ON POINT IT IS FUCKING PERFECT
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YES, THIS IS SO ON POINT IT IS FUCKING PERFECT
Frederick Piratin 5/17/2023 1:45 AM
Yes, because supporting the military regime (which hosts an American military base) is clearly the pro-freedom and anti-imperialist position. Sometimes, I have to remind myself that these people are real, and not just psyops, because it honestly is hard to believe these peopel are real.
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Seriously, what crazy mind leads you to supporting the Thai military regime? It doesn't even make sense if you're just anti-American, as the military regime sides with America geopolitically.
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wishing the best to the thai people (edited)
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YES, THIS IS SO ON POINT IT IS FUCKING PERFECT
average pro china ML tbqh
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i can very much give a pass to someone defending cuba considering the hands they have been given (like, its not shocking to me that a latam country is neutral about the ukraine issue since they need investments from china for exemple, or it makes sense that cuba is pro CN/RU because they are under embargo)
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but at least cuba is making some progress and their situation is understandable
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china is actively going backwards, is socialist pretty much in name only, and is an imperialist threat to the region, only prevented from expanding by the already existing other imperialist powers there (russia, USA)
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remove US troops from taiwan or south korea and look how quickly they invade those countries
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Seriously, what crazy mind leads you to supporting the Thai military regime? It doesn't even make sense if you're just anti-American, as the military regime sides with America geopolitically.
DevilTheAutopoet 5/17/2023 10:23 AM
They're not just Anti-American. I mean... they are that. But they're just as much anti-democracy. Tankies often view "liberal" concepts like democracy and human rights as antithetical to socialism. They believe socialism must operate via authoritarian means, so that it can act as an unstoppable bullet train of "progress" bowling over anything that gets in its way.
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also, lmao at ML defending the literal monarchist conservative party
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just because its more pro-china
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red fash moment
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that aside this wave of pro democracy activism in south east asia is as heartwarming as its opposition is soul crushing the people of myanmar are still fighting an active civil war against the junta
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now thailand, where a lot of the myanmar democrats are hiding, is also having this wave of democratic movement for the past few years
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Aside from the mind boggling decisions of tankies supporting a monarchy, I do want to give a shout out to certainSC lawmakers who are holding up a 6 week abortion bad in the state house right now. They are currently in day 2, after stoping the vote for 12 hours yesterday
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They're not just Anti-American. I mean... they are that. But they're just as much anti-democracy. Tankies often view "liberal" concepts like democracy and human rights as antithetical to socialism. They believe socialism must operate via authoritarian means, so that it can act as an unstoppable bullet train of "progress" bowling over anything that gets in its way.
Frederick Piratin 5/17/2023 10:42 AM
That is true. Every discussion I've had with tankies suggests that they believe human rights and democracy in-general to be a "bourgeoisie notion", which I'm pretty sure is antithetical to everything socialism was founded on (the original socialists literally fought for universal suffrage). However, many will still claim to care about such things (especially when it benefits them), so it really surprises me that they'd take this position of all things. It'd be like supporting Erdogan (the authoritarian right-wing leader of Turkey who suppresses left-wing movements) because he dislikes Biden. That'd be a new mind-boggling low even for them. (edited)
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That is true. Every discussion I've had with tankies suggests that they believe human rights and democracy in-general to be a "bourgeoisie notion", which I'm pretty sure is antithetical to everything socialism was founded on (the original socialists literally fought for universal suffrage). However, many will still claim to care about such things (especially when it benefits them), so it really surprises me that they'd take this position of all things. It'd be like supporting Erdogan (the authoritarian right-wing leader of Turkey who suppresses left-wing movements) because he dislikes Biden. That'd be a new mind-boggling low even for them. (edited)
There are credible arguments against democracy, since it's never truly democratic anymore. I see "democracy" as the same sort of pipe dream as "free market capitalism".
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If you want a decision-making process that isn't problematic or inherently corruptible, you have to go to bottom up autonomous collectives operating on consensus.
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that aside this wave of pro democracy activism in south east asia is as heartwarming as its opposition is soul crushing the people of myanmar are still fighting an active civil war against the junta
Frederick Piratin 5/17/2023 10:45 AM
I heard about that. Honestly I wish the Myanmar rebels got more attention, their cause is legit, and the groups fighting are pretty neat in how they break from the traditional molds of rebels movements. The PDF for instance is considered to be a true Gen Z army, which is honestly pretty interesting to see.
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Aside from the mind boggling decisions of tankies supporting a monarchy, I do want to give a shout out to certainSC lawmakers who are holding up a 6 week abortion bad in the state house right now. They are currently in day 2, after stoping the vote for 12 hours yesterday
Frederick Piratin 5/17/2023 10:46 AM
Props to them. Here's hoping they continue to hold out.
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That is true. Every discussion I've had with tankies suggests that they believe human rights and democracy in-general to be a "bourgeoisie notion", which I'm pretty sure is antithetical to everything socialism was founded on (the original socialists literally fought for universal suffrage). However, many will still claim to care about such things (especially when it benefits them), so it really surprises me that they'd take this position of all things. It'd be like supporting Erdogan (the authoritarian right-wing leader of Turkey who suppresses left-wing movements) because he dislikes Biden. That'd be a new mind-boggling low even for them. (edited)
i legit heard of pro erdogan leftists, not kidding 🤣
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If you want a decision-making process that isn't problematic or inherently corruptible, you have to go to bottom up autonomous collectives operating on consensus.
Frederick Piratin 5/17/2023 10:50 AM
I suppose it depends on how we define "democracy". Technically what you describe is just democracy, but in it's truest and most pure form. If you define democracy as how it's usually carried out in-present day, which I would argue is a partial and incomplete form of democracy, then I can see your point.
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i legit heard of pro erdogan leftists, not kidding 🤣
Frederick Piratin 5/17/2023 10:51 AM
Oh no, I was afraid of that. I would ask what other unlikely regimes they support, but at this rate I really don't want to know.
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Frederick Piratin
Oh no, I was afraid of that. I would ask what other unlikely regimes they support, but at this rate I really don't want to know.
anything that they think is mildly anti american
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Frederick Piratin
I suppose it depends on how we define "democracy". Technically what you describe is just democracy, but in it's truest and most pure form. If you define democracy as how it's usually carried out in-present day, which I would argue is a partial and incomplete form of democracy, then I can see your point.
The question we should ask is "why" does consensus get lumped into the concept of democracy when literally no state on earth is willing to use it. I would surmise that "democratic" states benefit from lumping it in as an "ideal" to strive for, without any real goal to actually try to strive for it.
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That is true. Every discussion I've had with tankies suggests that they believe human rights and democracy in-general to be a "bourgeoisie notion", which I'm pretty sure is antithetical to everything socialism was founded on (the original socialists literally fought for universal suffrage). However, many will still claim to care about such things (especially when it benefits them), so it really surprises me that they'd take this position of all things. It'd be like supporting Erdogan (the authoritarian right-wing leader of Turkey who suppresses left-wing movements) because he dislikes Biden. That'd be a new mind-boggling low even for them. (edited)
DevilTheAutopoet 5/17/2023 11:29 AM
I think tankies do support Erdogan.
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DevilTheAutopoet 5/17/2023 11:56 AM
To my mind, consensus democracy, participatory democracy, collaborative governance, spokescouncil models, and deliberative policy-building, are really the best examples of true democracy in the sense of the etymological meaning of the word, which is "power to the people". To that end, any form of majoritarian, coercive, and/or statist system could only ever really be "semi-democratic". And in all reality, most systems that claim the "democracy" title are barely worthy of even being called "semi-democratic".
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To my mind, consensus democracy, participatory democracy, collaborative governance, spokescouncil models, and deliberative policy-building, are really the best examples of true democracy in the sense of the etymological meaning of the word, which is "power to the people". To that end, any form of majoritarian, coercive, and/or statist system could only ever really be "semi-democratic". And in all reality, most systems that claim the "democracy" title are barely worthy of even being called "semi-democratic".
Ironically every state (whether they identify as democratic or not) will attempt at great expense to destroy any of those examples of "true democracy". Including and especially the USA.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/17/2023 1:38 PM
Threats of violence against the LGBTQIA+ community are on the rise and are intensifying, according to a new briefing by the Department of Homeland Security.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/17/2023 1:39 PM
YA THINK???
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Ironically every state (whether they identify as democratic or not) will attempt at great expense to destroy any of those examples of "true democracy". Including and especially the USA.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 1:53 PM
I’m going to be honest, and I don’t want to be mean or rude or anything, but that does seem to strike me as a “No True Scotsman” Fallacy
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking
I’m going to be honest, and I don’t want to be mean or rude or anything, but that does seem to strike me as a “No True Scotsman” Fallacy
I don't think you understand that the fallacy doesn't apply in reverse. The fallacy applies to isolating something from something else by virtue of a point of contention. Ignoring shared commonalities. I'm specifically referencing the violence and corruption which seeks to isolate power in the hands of a few individuals in every existing or historical example of a state government. In fact the fact that any exception has been violently opposed by other states only proves the rule. Even Tito's Yugoslavia had to capitulate power to an oligarchy made mainly of Serbian oligarchs in order to not be subsumed by USSR control. Every state in the eastern bloc that has tried to give power to it's people was invaded by Russia in spite of their already being a part of the USSR.
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I would challenge you to name a state which exists or has existed which has had a bottom up power structure which has not been destroyed by internal forces seeking totalitarian oligarchy or external ones seeking to impose their will on them.
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I would challenge you to name a state which exists or has existed which has had a bottom up power structure which has not been destroyed by internal forces seeking totalitarian oligarchy or external ones seeking to impose their will on them.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 2:34 PM
Switzerland.
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That said, I think this is also a flaw with anarchist organization, simply because of human nature, that people are inherently greedy and self interested, and will seek to advance their own interests
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The other issue is that Tito was himself corrupt, as Dictators tend to be; the man took advantage of his power to enrich himself; I think regardless of our ideas of societal organization, be we statist or Anarchist, we need to learn how to develop and adopt systems to curb the actions of people acting in people looking to advance their own interests at the expense of the broader community
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That said, I think this is also a flaw with anarchist organization, simply because of human nature, that people are inherently greedy and self interested, and will seek to advance their own interests
floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/17/2023 2:41 PM
I think it’s hard to properly judge human nature as that when we live in a system which encourages and rewards that behavior, and downright punishes you for not acting like that
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I think it’s hard to properly judge human nature as that when we live in a system which encourages and rewards that behavior, and downright punishes you for not acting like that
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 2:42 PM
As an anthropology student, I may be a bit cynical, but to me it seems like people when they have positions of power, they will abuse it to get ahead
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I may be biased however
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/17/2023 2:43 PM
you make a good point, and that’s precisely why i’m an anarchist; because you can’t trust people in power to be just
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that’s why you minimize authority as much as possible
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 2:44 PM
One thing, I believe it was @LouisiAnarchist mentioned was that a lot of Indigenous societies have methods of state structure that limit the potential for abuses by people in power, and I think we need to study these more
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/17/2023 2:45 PM
I think it was @Spinner, he’s very wise on indigenous societies and anthropology about that
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LouisiAnarchist 5/17/2023 2:45 PM
They talk about cyclical structures, seasonal forms of political organization, in The Dawn Of Everything by David Graeber and some poor fellow whos name I do not remember
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that’s why you minimize authority as much as possible
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 2:45 PM
I’m not sure myself that this is sufficient for doing so, but I could well be wrong, and so I think people ought to try setting up communes and what not to see if they can work
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LouisiAnarchist 5/17/2023 2:45 PM
But I will say that it should be taken with a grain of salt to read that
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 2:46 PM
I am somewhat skeptical, and I think rules and mechanisms to enforce them are probably something we need at least in this day and age
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I’m not sure myself that this is sufficient for doing so, but I could well be wrong, and so I think people ought to try setting up communes and what not to see if they can work
LouisiAnarchist 5/17/2023 2:46 PM
Honestly I don't think any of us will end up "setting up" anything. What's coming is probably going to be social adaptations to collapse and calamity, which tbh favors anarchist models, but supplemented by centralized resource hubs as well.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 2:47 PM
But I do deeply respect anarchism, and it’s adherents
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LouisiAnarchist 5/17/2023 2:47 PM
Like we will probably just be riding the wave
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Same, I do as well, I'm a commie deep down tho lol maybe it's creeping parentalism on my part as a dad lol
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/17/2023 2:47 PM
oh totally
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 2:47 PM
I think we who support the idea of a state really should learn more about it, perhaps if nothing else than to steal ideas and incorporate change
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LouisiAnarchist 5/17/2023 2:48 PM
if yall haven't listened to the GrillStreams that Matt Christman did about Dawn of Everything, they're worth a listen
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 2:50 PM
My main issue with anarchism is that I am uncertain what methods it has to prevent someone from organizing a band of their followers and grabbing some trucks and guns and basically setting themselves up as a neo-feudal lord, since historically, a lot of people tend to be very uncomfortable with anarchy, even if it literally is just “No Government to tell you what to do”, and they tend to flock to someone who claims to be able to provide protection and stability
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And I’m not sure what the methods of preventing that exist
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LouisiAnarchist 5/17/2023 2:51 PM
I think the important thing when thinking about this is, "how do we see us embodying these values today?" way more than planning for a future organizational schema (edited)
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I think the important thing when thinking about this is, "how do we see us embodying these values today?" way more than planning for a future organizational schema (edited)
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 2:52 PM
That’s very fair, and the thing I mostly deeply respect about you guys, that it’s mainly driven by the desire to have as fair a system as possible while doing away with any form of coercion
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LouisiAnarchist 5/17/2023 2:54 PM
Lol I used to be an anarchist, I much more adhere to stuff like Communization theory and really just a "whatever works right now" outlook towards stuff like Christian Communism, now (edited)
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 2:54 PM
My main criticism of it is purely mechanical, as I’m really all about how things work, and I think that’s why I’m skeptical of it, since I’m not sold on how the process works.
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Lol I used to be an anarchist, I much more adhere to stuff like Communization theory and really just a "whatever works right now" outlook towards stuff like Christian Communism, now (edited)
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 2:54 PM
Honestly, as a non-Communist, non-Christian, I gotta say that’s pretty fucking based
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Switzerland.
A country which exists entirely to safeguard the wealth of oligarchs of all nations. And whose financial security was ensured by safeguarding money stolen from literally 11 million people who were massacred in the holocaust. And who has never once acknowledged or made reparations for their complicity in that atrocity nor it's complicity in the attrocities caused by those who use it for financial gain. So even if their poorest people have power to shut down governmental processes (they don't)... they are still an example of a state that uses violence to subject others... their violence is just done through capitalism. (edited)
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 2:57 PM
Honestly, I really appreciate this conversation, it was very nice, and it definitely made me much more super to you guys; I’ve had bad experiences with people calling themselves Anarchists before, and I think this chat really did a lot to drive home that it’s just a few annoying teenagers I had experiences with (edited)
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A country which exists entirely to safeguard the wealth of oligarchs of all nations. And whose financial security was ensured by safeguarding money stolen from literally 11 million people who were massacred in the holocaust. And who has never once acknowledged or made reparations for their complicity in that atrocity nor it's complicity in the attrocities caused by those who use it for financial gain. So even if their poorest people have power to shut down governmental processes (they don't)... they are still an example of a state that uses violence to subject others... their violence is just done through capitalism. (edited)
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 2:58 PM
Excellent points, I retract my answer
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/17/2023 2:58 PM
as an annoying teenager i’m glad i could deceive you so
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking
One thing, I believe it was @LouisiAnarchist mentioned was that a lot of Indigenous societies have methods of state structure that limit the potential for abuses by people in power, and I think we need to study these more
Those are inherently not state power structures. I think you misunderstand the use of the term state. A state inherently controls decisions on some level for a portion or all of it's population.
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Honestly, I really appreciate this conversation, it was very nice, and it definitely made me much more super to you guys; I’ve had bad experiences with people calling themselves Anarchists before, and I think this chat really did a lot to drive home that it’s just a few annoying teenagers I had experiences with (edited)
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 2:58 PM
I’m still a statist, but mad respect to y’all
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Those are inherently not state power structures. I think you misunderstand the use of the term state. A state inherently controls decisions on some level for a portion or all of it's population.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 2:59 PM
The issue is then any form of social organization could then be considered a state if we want to be pedantic
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I don’t think that’s the intention, but it is something that makes that definition insufficient
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The issue is then any form of social organization could then be considered a state if we want to be pedantic
Negative. Only if your only lens to view it is through imperialist propaganda.
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Those are inherently not state power structures. I think you misunderstand the use of the term state. A state inherently controls decisions on some level for a portion or all of it's population.
LouisiAnarchist 5/17/2023 3:00 PM
Fair, I didn't consider that
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Negative. Only if your only lens to view it is through imperialist propaganda.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:00 PM
No, I’m saying that JUST that definition, without clarification, is too vague
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The first step is acknowledging that giant political structures are not a necessity for human co-existence.
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The first step is acknowledging that giant political structures are not a necessity for human co-existence.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:01 PM
I agree there, at least to some degree
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LouisiAnarchist 5/17/2023 3:01 PM
Well to a degree globe spanning institutions that are not states per se are probably beneficial for directing the sharing of rare or geographically unavailable resources
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No, I’m saying that JUST that definition, without clarification, is too vague
State is a poor term, I'll agree. But when everyone wants to frame the argument as statist or anti-statist, that's where the line is drawn for me and most anarchists.
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LouisiAnarchist 5/17/2023 3:02 PM
"Institution" can suffice as a stand in, if we're willing to grant that there's a level of trust in a form of institutional power (not a monopoly on violence of course) (edited)
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Well to a degree globe spanning institutions that are not states per se are probably beneficial for directing the sharing of rare or geographically unavailable resources
A non-hierarchical alliance of federated collectives can serve that purpose just fine. As well as minutia of providing for the transfer simply of product one collective grows that another one doesn't. (edited)
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LouisiAnarchist 5/17/2023 3:03 PM
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Those are inherently not state power structures. I think you misunderstand the use of the term state. A state inherently controls decisions on some level for a portion or all of it's population.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:04 PM
Also, many native groups were indeed states, such as the Iroquois confederacy, the Native Alliances of the NorthEast, and the Cherokee
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Also, many native groups were indeed states, such as the Iroquois confederacy, the Native Alliances of the NorthEast, and the Cherokee
States-ish.
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LouisiAnarchist 5/17/2023 3:04 PM
Are tributary regimes necessarily states?
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Good denotational question tbh
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Are tributary regimes necessarily states?
define tributary regimes.
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A non-hierarchical alliance of federated collectives can serve that purpose just fine. As well as minutia of providing for the transfer simply of product one collective grows that another one doesn't. (edited)
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:04 PM
That would fall under my definition of a state, but I think the problem we are reaching in thins conversation is that the definition of a state is too broad and vague
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And that we all have differing ideas on what it is (edited)
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That would fall under my definition of a state, but I think the problem we are reaching in thins conversation is that the definition of a state is too broad and vague
As I said, the term lacks in many ways.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:05 PM
Very true
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A non-hierarchical alliance of federated collectives can serve that purpose just fine. As well as minutia of providing for the transfer simply of product one collective grows that another one doesn't. (edited)
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:06 PM
Because this would fall under my definition of a state, but it’s very much something I think we should have
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Here is the structure I could see us working towards, particularly as capitalism collapses as it is currently doing.
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define tributary regimes.
LouisiAnarchist 5/17/2023 3:06 PM
Organized groups that have a quota of demanded(or requested) goods intended to be sent without trade to a central group or individual. That might need more work but that's what I got in the fly
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:08 PM
Since I think we need some form of institution to ensure the prosperity of everyone and redistribute resources, to enforce collectively agreed on decisions, and to prevent the seizure of power by any individual or individuals, as well as the mechanisms for collective decision making
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I’m gonna dip real Quick, gotta take care of my mead
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Note: Power lies at the lowest level, any participation in decisions made above is purely voluntary. (Also this is very simplified compared to the writeups I've done in the past.) 1: Households/workplace collectives. 2: Block/floor councils. 3: Neighborhood/Apartment Building councils. 4: District/town councils. 5: City/Region councils 6: State councils 7: National council 1: decides everything of specific reference to their perview. 2+: are simply representative bodies using consensus to decide on collective efforts/distribution of excess production.
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Assuming Households/workplace collectives have the right to not participate, this would be acceptable as a basic outline in my mind.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:13 PM
I think we’re on the very cusp of realizing that we all kinda want the same thing, we just have SLIGHTLY different flavors of it, SLIGHTLY different ideas on how to achieve it, and they aren’t even mutually exclusive (edited)
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LouisiAnarchist 5/17/2023 3:13 PM
I think we'll have much less need for it at the point we've organized something like what you mention but we definitely need some group to investigate and mitigate violations of people's life and personal effects/goods (notice I didn't say property lol) We need forms of detectives basically but decoupled from carceralism and the State as oppressor.
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I think we'll have much less need for it at the point we've organized something like what you mention but we definitely need some group to investigate and mitigate violations of people's life and personal effects/goods (notice I didn't say property lol) We need forms of detectives basically but decoupled from carceralism and the State as oppressor.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:14 PM
Dick Jett?
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I think we’re on the very cusp of realizing that we all kinda want the same thing, we just have SLIGHTLY different flavors of it, SLIGHTLY different ideas on how to achieve it, and they aren’t even mutually exclusive (edited)
LouisiAnarchist 5/17/2023 3:15 PM
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I think we'll have much less need for it at the point we've organized something like what you mention but we definitely need some group to investigate and mitigate violations of people's life and personal effects/goods (notice I didn't say property lol) We need forms of detectives basically but decoupled from carceralism and the State as oppressor.
Not if the authority lies within the household/workplace collectives. It's simple. Fuck up and you get kicked out or killed (if it's bad enough). Get kicked out of too many places and you just lost the one benefit of being human... having a society at your back.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:15 PM
I wouldn’t consider myself an anarchist, but like I getcha
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Not if the authority lies within the household/workplace collectives. It's simple. Fuck up and you get kicked out or killed (if it's bad enough). Get kicked out of too many places and you just lost the one benefit of being human... having a society at your back.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:16 PM
The issue with that is how do you prevent blood feuds or abuse by shitty members of a family
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Those are real problems and I don’t think this is sufficient to address them
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LouisiAnarchist 5/17/2023 3:16 PM
I mean that's fair if we have a pretty transparent society without much alienation or opportunities to be secretive in harming people. I do think our society is why we have so many murders not "hUmaN nATurE" of course
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I wouldn’t consider myself an anarchist, but like I getcha
LouisiAnarchist 5/17/2023 3:17 PM
I meant the point that anarchism and communism are the same thing. It's all stateless classless and moneyless
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The issue with that is how do you prevent blood feuds or abuse by shitty members of a family
Well, let's say you have a kid who is being abused. Another collective can adopt them. Blood feuds work themselves out eventually, and frankly people who are dead set on participating in them probably will benefit from the outcome in the most socially beneficial way. Death.
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I meant the point that anarchism and communism are the same thing. It's all stateless classless and moneyless
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:18 PM
I wouldn’t call myself a commie either, but again, I getcha
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That's simplistic, but still my personally feeling on it.
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LouisiAnarchist 5/17/2023 3:18 PM
I get you and I have also felt the same.
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But I'm also like, "there needs to be paperwork and a record of things"
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Well, let's say you have a kid who is being abused. Another collective can adopt them. Blood feuds work themselves out eventually, and frankly people who are dead set on participating in them probably will benefit from the outcome in the most socially beneficial way. Death.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:18 PM
As a historian of the Viking age, I can say YOU DO NOT WANT a blood feud to “Work itself out”
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LouisiAnarchist 5/17/2023 3:19 PM
We're also getting pretty abstract and more philosophical than sociological at this point btw lol
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:19 PM
People tend to lash out and target people who aren’t involved in beyond tangential connections to someone who is
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LouisiAnarchist 5/17/2023 3:19 PM
I gotta dip and go pick up our half way house guys from work.
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We're also getting pretty abstract and more philosophical than sociological at this point btw lol
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:19 PM
Yeah, true
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:20 PM
I think we should call it here folks
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I think my point is, this isn't some utopia we are creating from scratch. If this comes about it will be at the long end of a very painful recovery from climate change disaster based famine and the collapse of the veneer of civilization brought about by the collapse of capitalism.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:20 PM
Good convo, but as trey said, I think we’re getting kinda off the rails, and we’re really getting into the weeds at this point
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This is the sorta stuff we debate over glasses of coffee and absinthe, and I’m not drunk yet (edited)
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This is the sorta stuff we debate over glasses of coffee and absinthe, and I’m not drunk yet (edited)
Totally fair. And because of capitalism and religion I cannot either afford, nor find the good absinthe.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:22 PM
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But I'll brew some bad ass mead. 😉
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Totally fair. And because of capitalism and religion I cannot either afford, nor find the good absinthe.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:22 PM
Brandy works too
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But I'll brew some bad ass mead. 😉
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:22 PM
I’m doing that rn
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Waiting for my must to cool down
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I’m doing that rn
Don't have room to do so right now living in 250sq ft with a wife and dog. But my previous batches from when we had a house were the best thing I've ever tasted.
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Waiting for my must to cool down
What'd you use for a nutrient tea? Our last batch used black tea, orange peel, and raisins.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:26 PM
I think I used the wrong word
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Im waiting for the mead to cool down to add the yeast
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The must is the water/honey base.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:27 PM
Ok, I did use the right word
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Yeah.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:27 PM
Memory Loss go BRRRRR
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My meds cause me to have memory issues, so I tend to fuck words up
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I tossed in the tea we brewed into the must and waited for it to cool to pitch the yeast. I used a Lalvin Champaign yeast the last batch, the previous one was a perishable sweet wine yeast mix.
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What'd you use for a nutrient tea? Our last batch used black tea, orange peel, and raisins.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:28 PM
Answering this, I just use the dregs from previous batches with a bit of honey and sugar to keep it going
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I tossed in the tea we brewed into the must and waited for it to cool to pitch the yeast. I used a Lalvin Champaign yeast the last batch, the previous one was a perishable sweet wine yeast mix.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:29 PM
Oh, I’m just making a plain batch atm
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Answering this, I just use the dregs from previous batches with a bit of honey and sugar to keep it going
Fair, I found I like having a little more "mouth feel" so that's why the tannins from raisins and black tea.
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Stops it from being too "clingy"/"cloying" on the tongue. (edited)
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:30 PM
I might add some cinnamon, but I’m really unsure; I’m trying out a different fermentation/aging schedule, and I’m kinda worried about adding stuff in that might change the results
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Stops it from being too "clingy"/"cloying" on the tongue. (edited)
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:30 PM
Neat, I’ll give that a go with my next batch
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I typically keep two going at anyone time, so I’ve always got fresh dregs to work with
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For some reason (probably the Memory thing) I thought you were asking what I used to keep my yeast alive
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I might add some cinnamon, but I’m really unsure; I’m trying out a different fermentation/aging schedule, and I’m kinda worried about adding stuff in that might change the results
Totally understand. I knew I didn't want just a straight mead off the bat, so I started with a specific tea to nuance it a bit, each batch I change just one thing but do the same in every other respect.
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Only had time to play with different yeasts before we got foreclosed on and I lost my space to work in.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:33 PM
Tea sounds like it would slap, add a bit of astringency and almost a souther sweet tea style flavor to it
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Maybe we should move to #happy-hour tho,
3:33 PM
More fitting channel I feel
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Maybe we should move to #happy-hour tho,
Someone will come in and complain about alcohol being poison and it'll be right back on track for the channel.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:34 PM
Wait, who does that?
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No one I'm just snarking.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:34 PM
Ah gotcha (edited)
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Actually given that mead is literally the first alcohol humans produced and by accident at that, and directly relates to our ancestors egalitarian practices... I think it's fine to be here. 😉 (edited)
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:36 PM
Fair enough
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I’m actually at my grandparents house making it, since my own is too cramped and has too many animals for me to feel comfortable making it at home; my Grandparents live like 2 miles from me, so it’s super easy to swing by to make a batch and then just spend a few hours with them
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It’s really nice
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Okay, so let's use mead as an example for collective organization. Let's say a residence collective has two brewers. How does the collective decide what kind of mead they want the brewers to brew?
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Actually given that mead is literally the first alcohol humans produced and by accident at that, and directly relates to our ancestors egalitarian practices... I think it's fine to be here. 😉 (edited)
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:38 PM
If/when society collapses, I’m going to become a mead magnate and use my fortune to establish myself as a Neo-Feudal Viking Lord.
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If/when society collapses, I’m going to become a mead magnate and use my fortune to establish myself as a Neo-Feudal Viking Lord.
I'd wage a gorilla war against you just for maintaining capitalism.
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Okay, so let's use mead as an example for collective organization. Let's say a residence collective has two brewers. How does the collective decide what kind of mead they want the brewers to brew?
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:39 PM
Obviously an in person discussion
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I'd wage a gorilla war against you just for maintaining capitalism.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:40 PM
I’m just picturing a militia of guys all wearing party city ape costumes, and that is such a great mental image Ngl
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Obviously an in person discussion
Generally I'd let the brewers brew whatever mead they wanted to. Brewers will experiment and some of it is gonna slap, and some of it is gonna suck.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:40 PM
Sorry, ADDH brain. Thanks for getting back on topic
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I’m just picturing a militia of guys all wearing party city ape costumes, and that is such a great mental image Ngl
Exactly where I was going with it. Shouting "Return to monkee!!!" as they beat your servants on their way to you.
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Generally I'd let the brewers brew whatever mead they wanted to. Brewers will experiment and some of it is gonna slap, and some of it is gonna suck.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:42 PM
I think we agree on this; I think my main concern is really with the nitty gritty mechanics of a social organization, which as an Anthropology guy, are something I’m kinda biased to be concerned about (edited)
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But seriously... things generally work out for the best in that situation... the one thing all brewers don't want is no one drinking their mead.
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So they will in fact tend towards a mead or range of meads which satisfy their residence members.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:43 PM
Right
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I would argue that that applies to almost every situation regarding collective social organization.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:44 PM
Sure
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Like you aren't gonna grow food people don't want to eat.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:44 PM
Yeah
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Like Okra... only child abusing oklahoma fucks eat that shit.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:45 PM
You take that back
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I've got the scars on my ass to prove it 36 years later.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:45 PM
It’s a staple in the south
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Yeah... the south.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:46 PM
That’s, that’s fair
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I spent 18 years of my adulthood there. I looked at it from an anthropology mindset. And frankly, I'm not sure they can survive what's coming. And I'm pretty sure their hateful shit is because on some level they know it.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:48 PM
I’d also say, and I’m probably biased as a former Lost Causer, that the Re-Establishment of white supremacy following the failure of reconstruction and the ravaging of the civil war also lent a major part
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The south could be wonderful, but it’s become a deeply backwards area that if it doesn’t change is doomed to stagnation and failure
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The south could be wonderful, but it’s become a deeply backwards area that if it doesn’t change is doomed to stagnation and failure
Billions of dollars have been spent by white supremacists (including those of the original german american bund families) to ensure that it won't change.
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Frankly, their culture is as hollow as their statues of Lee et al.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:51 PM
I’d like to be optimistic, and I really hope it can as a former resident, but It definitely looks like it might end up collapsing
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Frankly, their culture is as hollow as their statues of Lee et al.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:51 PM
They really do need to just move on from the Antebellum nonsense and the lost cause that clings to that order
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They really do need to just move on from the Antebellum nonsense and the lost cause that clings to that order
When literal billionaires keep "marketing" (propaganda), there can be no moving on.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:52 PM
I’m kinda getting depressed now, you don’t mind if I bow out for a bit?
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I’m kinda getting depressed now, you don’t mind if I bow out for a bit?
All good.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/17/2023 3:53 PM
See ya around
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 5/18/2023 1:02 AM
{CW!!}: [sexualized infant clothing] Fascists: "LGBT PEOPLE ARE ALL GROOMERS! WE CAN'T HAVE THEM AROUND OUR KIDS!" Also them: ah yes, perfectly appropriate outfit for a baby (not sure if homophobia counts as fascism but i felt like that was the right word to use)
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I'll remove this if it doesn't belong here
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I'll remove this if it doesn't belong here
given that fascism tends to include homophobia (it's a very easy us vs them issue) i'd argue it's chill here (edited)
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 5/18/2023 1:07 AM
that isn't even the worst one i've seen, i've got like tons more examples of baby clothes like this. like seriously, who thought this would be appropriate for a legitimate infant to wear??
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there's this one as well, but it's the liberals and drag queens who are the pedos? (fair warning, this one has.. kind of a rape implication? but i'm not sure)
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^ this issue isn't exactly that political, but i just find it funny how the same people saying LGBT and drag queens are grooming kids, are the same people who buy their kids this type of outfit:
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there's this one as well, but it's the liberals and drag queens who are the pedos? (fair warning, this one has.. kind of a rape implication? but i'm not sure)
I mean, I could see it if the mother really wanted to out her husband as a rapist without risking being beaten to death.
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𖤐 𝕊𝕒𝕘𝕖 𖤐 5/18/2023 1:28 AM
Wait, now that I think about it, that actually makes a lot of sense
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Wait, now that I think about it, that actually makes a lot of sense
But let's be real, this is a hot white yoga instructor self-identified milf product.
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So it's at best using a casual rape accusation to hide her (what is in her eyes) whorish desires.
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{CW!!}: [sexualized infant clothing] Fascists: "LGBT PEOPLE ARE ALL GROOMERS! WE CAN'T HAVE THEM AROUND OUR KIDS!" Also them: ah yes, perfectly appropriate outfit for a baby (not sure if homophobia counts as fascism but i felt like that was the right word to use)
MisterStompy 5/18/2023 10:56 AM
mfw neofascists say that Nazi Germany worked tirelessly to punish degeneracy and pedophilia
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/18/2023 10:57 AM
i love how this one man discredits everything
10:57 AM
if i had a time machine this guy is on my top 10 kill list
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and i can assure you they'd none of them be missed
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MisterStompy 5/18/2023 10:58 AM
But then the Polish Home Army wouldn't get to kick him to death during the Nuremberg trials.
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But then the Polish Home Army wouldn't get to kick him to death during the Nuremberg trials.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/18/2023 10:58 AM
my goal is to stop him doing all the stuff he did lmao
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kill him when he's 10 or something lmao
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MisterStompy 5/18/2023 10:59 AM
"Unlike the degenerate capitalists and conniving communists, we national socialists punish child predators mercilessly!" gives them guns and lets them rape all of Warsaw
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/18/2023 11:00 AM
oh he and his goons raped a lot more
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i fucking hate him so much
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you know you're evil when other evil men think you're scum
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MisterStompy 5/18/2023 11:01 AM
Pretty sure there's actually a section in this very book that talks about how American Capitalism promotes pedophilia.
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The SS published it in the early 30's, then republished it in 1944 to try and raise morale.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/18/2023 11:02 AM
bruh
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you know you're evil when other evil men think you're scum
MisterStompy 5/18/2023 11:02 AM
Adolf Hitler was friends with the guy who commissioned the Dirlewanger Brigade and personally intervened to stop them from being disbanded iirc
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Adolf Hitler was friends with the guy who commissioned the Dirlewanger Brigade and personally intervened to stop them from being disbanded iirc
AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/18/2023 11:02 AM
talking about other ss officers who hated him, still hate them myself but he was THAT bad
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MisterStompy 5/18/2023 11:03 AM
Oh I know just saying
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Also that book's title roughly translates to "Americanism: A Global Threat"
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/18/2023 11:03 AM
ah oki
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he had to register in the sex offender list quite a lot
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MisterStompy 5/18/2023 11:04 AM
It talked about American society being irreprably degenerated by black culture ie: ragtime and jazz music, how capitalism had made us weak and lazy degenerates, and how our "mongrel army" could never stand against a racially pure military in prolonged warfare.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/18/2023 11:05 AM
how dare they speak of jazz like that
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another reason to hate nazis
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MisterStompy 5/18/2023 11:06 AM
Pretty sure they were wrong about that last part at least
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/18/2023 11:06 AM
yup
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LouisiAnarchist 5/18/2023 1:03 PM
Unfounded speculations that black protesters might be linked to terrorists exposed activists to the risk of additional police violence.
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Try clicking this one and see what happens, this is STRANGE https://theintercept.com/2019/04/08/black-protesters-terrorism-threat-isis/
Fearless, adversarial journalism that holds the powerful accountable.
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like wtf
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Using state authority to villainize a specific group of people who's only crime is asking to not be murdered by state authority. Yeah, not fascist enough.
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1:15 PM
Go and protest any matter in China/Russia and call back from wherever you end up being sent to
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Especially protesting state authority abuse
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So yeah, america is a shit place. Not all piles of shit smell the same though
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LouisiAnarchist 5/18/2023 1:19 PM
My state, Louisiana, ALONE incarcerates people at a rate 10x that of China
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sure, america is a pile of shit, not denying that
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LouisiAnarchist 5/18/2023 1:19 PM
Guess they only imprison protestors or something
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10x homie
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and the crime situation is among its worst aspect
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LouisiAnarchist 5/18/2023 1:20 PM
Literally caging people, definitionally a "site of concentration"
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now I dont have any number to back it up, but police in america seems like its the most likely to get away with rights infringement than any other police force in the west
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LouisiAnarchist 5/18/2023 1:20 PM
And their political crime? Being born poor
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and YET, they can SOMETIMES face prosecution for doing so
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that's the whole core of my point
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america is a shit place because laws have little values, state authority gets away with too much shit it shouldnt be allowed to, and its very hard, by nature, to dislodge the people in power
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BUT, it is possible
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and YET, they can SOMETIMES face prosecution for doing so
LouisiAnarchist 5/18/2023 1:21 PM
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They have police accountability councils on the local level there
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I'm sure the people who killed protesters in hong kong faced prosecution
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and not likely a round of applause from whoever the CCP appointed as the leader of the local police force
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LouisiAnarchist 5/18/2023 1:22 PM
Magistrate approves opposition lawmaker Ted Hui’s legal pursuit of officer who opened fire with live round last November.
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Actully they did
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at the end of the day, all police forces are the armed hand of the state
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LouisiAnarchist 5/18/2023 1:23 PM
I'm pointing to things that directly contribute to my point that the US is in fact worse
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i'll disagree but fine
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at least its reasonnable
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then again i'm probably sheltered from how bad it is in the US by the fact that here in belgium, any police intervention that ends in a fatalities is pretty much automatically investigated and ends in a lawsuit of some sort
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and sure, belgium is small, but it would still be in like the top 10 most populated states if it was a US state
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LouisiAnarchist 5/18/2023 1:25 PM
Here it's literally almost never even investigated by anyone but the police department itself
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ok it would be above ohio making it the 6th most populous state
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LouisiAnarchist 5/18/2023 1:25 PM
They routinely investigate themselves and find no wrongdoing
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yeah, because they dont have independant oversight
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or barely
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france has the same problem and well, they have one of the worst police forces in western europe
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then again i'm probably sheltered from how bad it is in the US by the fact that here in belgium, any police intervention that ends in a fatalities is pretty much automatically investigated and ends in a lawsuit of some sort
LouisiAnarchist 5/18/2023 1:26 PM
and we can't even sue our police officers civilly because of something called Qualified Immunity that prevents lawsuits
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LouisiAnarchist 5/18/2023 1:26 PM
We live under the most pervasive police oppression of any time in history
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they're an occupying force of armed thugs who murder with no reprisals
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the criminality system in the US is definetly among it worst aspects, along with like healthcare, election system, or foreign policy to name a few
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judicial system too, like, I just straight up hate common law
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LouisiAnarchist 5/18/2023 1:27 PM
I would take not being able to shit talk joe biden, over this
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Or shit talk trump or whoever
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Freedom to impotently complain is no real freedom
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hot take once again but there is a point that roe v wade should be a law. Now its a massive, terrible loss for millions of women accross america that are now victim of predatory religious nutjobs that is the GOP, but really, law should be ruled by... laws
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not because the supreme courts decided to do some shit one day
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LouisiAnarchist 5/18/2023 1:28 PM
A court system that our own "Putin" managed to rig in favor of massive amounts of reactionary judges
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Freedom to impotently complain is no real freedom
I absolutely understand the sentiment, that said, I would argue that by doing "useless protest" at the very least, if nothing else, you raise awareness
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LouisiAnarchist 5/18/2023 1:28 PM
Our judicial branch is essentially fascist
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Awareness doesn't change things tho
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which is why the first amendment is so important
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LouisiAnarchist 5/18/2023 1:29 PM
Free speech ends where it impacts one's ability to get a job
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I cannot in fact say anything I want and expect to have an income to live on
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would the story of rosa parks ended up starting the chain that ended up with civil rights, if not for free press and protests? Sure the civil rights protests werent exactly super peaceful and there was a lot of waves, but it did happen
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Our judicial branch is essentially fascist
that I will agree
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would the story of rosa parks ended up starting the chain that ended up with civil rights, if not for free press and protests? Sure the civil rights protests werent exactly super peaceful and there was a lot of waves, but it did happen
LouisiAnarchist 5/18/2023 1:30 PM
Funny thing about this, Rosa wasn't even the person who initially did it. It was a single mother who did it and the NAACP thought she wasn't sympathetic enough so they got Rosa to do it in order to get arrested
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Go and protest any matter in China/Russia and call back from wherever you end up being sent to
DevilTheAutopoet 5/18/2023 1:30 PM
Ok... and? Like, what's even the point of mentioning this? "You don't have it as bad as North Korea, so stop complaining and be content with what you have." That's genuinely the type of vibe you're giving with this bizarre whataboutism.
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judges should not have a right to decide
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LouisiAnarchist 5/18/2023 1:30 PM
America is Unique, I will agree, but it is not Exceptional
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their only right is to interpret, not actually make up effectively new laws that will end up creating precedent for the foreseeable future... until they change their mind
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Ok... and? Like, what's even the point of mentioning this? "You don't have it as bad as North Korea, so stop complaining and be content with what you have." That's genuinely the type of vibe you're giving with this bizarre whataboutism.
(its a continuation from a discussion in #ukraine-russia-war , I agree it comes off as whataboutism if you only read from here)
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LouisiAnarchist 5/18/2023 1:31 PM
America is probably better in the minds of people who think about it, than it ever has been in reality. far better
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america is founded on a lot of commendable ideals, and utterly disastrous implementation, often on purpose sadly
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it was not made in mind for people other than the WASP who created it (edited)
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would the story of rosa parks ended up starting the chain that ended up with civil rights, if not for free press and protests? Sure the civil rights protests werent exactly super peaceful and there was a lot of waves, but it did happen
DevilTheAutopoet 5/18/2023 1:32 PM
You know that for all of that "right to protest" Rosa still got arrested right? For that matter, so did virtually all of the major civil rights figures at some point. And not for doing anything violent or destructive either, but literally just for existing in the wrong spaces.
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LouisiAnarchist 5/18/2023 1:32 PM
The point, and I will really drop it after this, to me is that if we are looking for a villain in the world, some country that is a threat to other countries and their global stability and national sovereignty, it is not China, and until the USA falls it will be no other country but the USA
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america is probably, considering the ressources it has, the closest thing to a heaven, yet the way its ruled is closer to hell ngl
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some of the most fertile land on earth, enough ressources on its own to sustain billions, and its all going to waste
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in many ways, yes, in that aspect, its very similar to russia and china
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the thing is that I could see america become better
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not fast enough, never fast enough
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but I can see america change to a better, if not perfect, future, without the need of millions of innocents dying for it. Probably still a lot of blood to spill, but the blood of people who mostly deserved it
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their only right is to interpret, not actually make up effectively new laws that will end up creating precedent for the foreseeable future... until they change their mind
DevilTheAutopoet 5/18/2023 1:35 PM
This is the difference between a common law and civil law system. America is technically a hybrid, but it operates predominantly on common law. The UK is actually even worse, since they operate entirely on common law. The bulk of the law in the UK was actually never even passed by legislation. It's just precedent.
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I can't say that about China and Russia though. The only way I can see them improve is through fiery civil wars. This is why I consider them different.
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LouisiAnarchist 5/18/2023 1:35 PM
I have to get back to my job which is entering the information of people who have been bonded out on bail by my boss. I hope yall have a pleasant day.
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Have a nice day too
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idk maybe its too idealistic or even wrong, but since america is not ruled by a single person but rather a class of individuals who want to maintain their power, I see it as way more likely that, when threatened, it could go either way: full on fascism, or compromise. Usually, although you need to press them a shit ton, they have resorted to compromise. I could see a vast social democratic movement making an actual healthcare system and widespread reforms. Of course its hard and relying too much on the goodwill of the people in power, but if FDR did some of that, surely it can happen again. When it comes to autocracies like Russia, China, or Hungary too, they are mostly one-people autocracies. China hasnt always been like this, it has changed over time, but now with Xi its definetly getting back there. And so, if people demand change, a single person, imo, is more likely to feel threatened and ask the tanks to roll in to crush dissent in complete impunity (see tian an men). Which is why I can't see widespread change in those countries without tragic civil wars with the death of hundreds of thousands, or even tens of millions, for them. Now, I will definetly concede that America is on the verge of fascism. Imo its only ever one election away. But it's not quite there yet.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot and of course, they don't always compromise
The Business Plot (also called the Wall Street Putsch and The White House Putsch) was a political conspiracy in 1933, in the United States, to overthrow the government of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and install Smedley Butler as dictator. Retired Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler asserted that wealthy businessmen were plotting to cre...
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but its more likely if the power is shared, than if the power is consolidated around a very small group of people, or even a single person
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it was not made in mind for people other than the WASP who created it (edited)
DevilTheAutopoet 5/18/2023 1:43 PM
That's... something of a false narrative. It erases a lot of very important POC from American history, going all the way back to the revolutionary war. Black people were disproportionately represented in the revolutionary army, because they believed that separation from the crown would lead to abolition. The first person to die for the revolution was a black man, Crispus Attucks. The entire model for the structure of the US government was lifted from the Haudenosaunee. Many of the ideals that became foundational for the revolution came from indigenous statesmen like Kandiaronk. America was founded on cross-cultural interests of mutual liberation. It was then corrupted nearly from onset by particular groups wielding outsized levels of power, namely the merchants in the north and the planter class in the south.
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That's... something of a false narrative. It erases a lot of very important POC from American history, going all the way back to the revolutionary war. Black people were disproportionately represented in the revolutionary army, because they believed that separation from the crown would lead to abolition. The first person to die for the revolution was a black man, Crispus Attucks. The entire model for the structure of the US government was lifted from the Haudenosaunee. Many of the ideals that became foundational for the revolution came from indigenous statesmen like Kandiaronk. America was founded on cross-cultural interests of mutual liberation. It was then corrupted nearly from onset by particular groups wielding outsized levels of power, namely the merchants in the north and the planter class in the south.
ok you say it better than me
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I meant in that yes the constitution and the institutions as they were made, especially for their time, were unquestionnably incredible
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but it got corrupted so incredibly fast
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a lot of it even during the lifetimes of the people who made it
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a lot of it even during the lifetimes of the people who made it
DevilTheAutopoet 5/18/2023 2:02 PM
Shays' Rebellion and the Whiskey Rebellion both consisted mostly of Revolutionary War vets, many of them POC.
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Shays' Rebellion and the Whiskey Rebellion both consisted mostly of Revolutionary War vets, many of them POC.
these are not things I knew about so thank you for that (edited)
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these are not things I knew about so thank you for that (edited)
DevilTheAutopoet 5/18/2023 2:18 PM
No problem. I very much enjoy history, and I particularly like finding out all the myriad of ways in which the version of US history we're taught in schools is completely backwards and wrong.
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i'm not american so i sure as hell wasn't even taught about the articles of confederation lol
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oh god
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tbqf our history classes here in belgium were mostly focused on being able to use documents we were provided and make analysis of it, exercising critical judgement
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The articals....
2:23 PM
As an American: Thank God we got rid of that mess
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more so than trying to (badly) pack as much historical knowledge in 2 hours a week, point was more so to be able to learn on our own
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i'm not american so i sure as hell wasn't even taught about the articles of confederation lol
AvoidOblivion 5/18/2023 2:24 PM
We aren’t taught much about the Articles in North Carolina. We’re told, in short, that they acted as the precursor to the Constitution and were not good at their job.
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with obviously a bunch of background knowledge, but I have probably consumed more history documentaries than I have had history classes, time wise
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We aren’t taught much about the Articles in North Carolina. We’re told, in short, that they acted as the precursor to the Constitution and were not good at their job.
Understatement
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AvoidOblivion 5/18/2023 2:25 PM
You likely know as much, if not potentially even more, about the Articles of Confederation than many Americans do.
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Some probably don’t even know of their existence.
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so many things to cram in school schedule main language, 1 or even 2 foreign languages, sports, physics, biology, chemisty, math, history, geography, its just so hard to give enough historical background sadly
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We aren’t taught much about the Articles in North Carolina. We’re told, in short, that they acted as the precursor to the Constitution and were not good at their job.
Let's not forget that disaster of a document is what we went through the revolutionary war with and part of the reason why the continental army was a hairsbreath away from mutiny about 90% of the time because congress couldn't pay them because they literally didn't have the power to impose taxes on the states
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Let's not forget that disaster of a document is what we went through the revolutionary war with and part of the reason why the continental army was a hairsbreath away from mutiny about 90% of the time because congress couldn't pay them because they literally didn't have the power to impose taxes on the states
Which led to the formation of the first elite caste as the entire nation depended upon donations from wealthy merchants and slaveowners.
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Before we were even a nation, we were sucking wealthy fucks dicks.
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Not a great footing to start on.
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AvoidOblivion 5/18/2023 2:31 PM
Iowa Democrats say a review by the U.S. Department of Labor confirms what they knew all along: Iowa's child labor bill runs counter to federal labor laws.
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Which led to the formation of the first elite caste as the entire nation depended upon donations from wealthy merchants and slaveowners.
DevilTheAutopoet 5/18/2023 2:36 PM
I'm personally of the camp that thinks we would've been much better off amending the Articles themselves than switching to the Constitution. The Constitution was largely an authoritarian project to solidify the power of the elites against the discontent of the masses exemplified by Shays' Rebellion, not so much to mitigate the actual problems with the Articles causing this discontent in the first place. The Bill of Rights was a compromise that had to be negotiated into it. Originally the Constitution was only going to massively centralize power without any mention of rights of the people. (edited)
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Really, the best outcome would've been if Shays' Rebellion had succeeded.
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I highly recommend looking into the work of William Appleman Williams on this topic.
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I'm personally of the camp that thinks we would've been much better off amending the Articles themselves than switching to the Constitution. The Constitution was largely an authoritarian project to solidify the power of the elites against the discontent of the masses exemplified by Shays' Rebellion, not so much to mitigate the actual problems with the Articles causing this discontent in the first place. The Bill of Rights was a compromise that had to be negotiated into it. Originally the Constitution was only going to massively centralize power without any mention of rights of the people. (edited)
Gov. Bowdoin and his gold silk and velvet garb pretty much exemplified the issue at hand. I don't disagree. I would like to note, that if it weren't for privately funded militiamen by the wealthy it would have succeeded. Further proof that the whole system was destined to support violence by capitalists against labor. I don't think reforms would have helped, because I don't think the reforms it would have gotten would have been the ones needed. Everyone deciding what those reforms would be were wealthy landowners or businessmen. Therefore ALL the reforms would have codified their control.
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MisterStompy 5/18/2023 3:17 PM
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A new office complex, and relocation of a division from California, would have created more than 2,000 jobs but was scuttled as the company and Gov. Ron DeSantis continue to feud.
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MisterStompy 5/18/2023 6:36 PM
Republican City Council member Matthew Reilly of Cranston, RI was arrested after he was found behind the wheel passed out holding a crack pipe with crack and fentanyl in the car.
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But seriously I hope he gets help
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Yeah, drug addiction is a disease, not a crime.
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Question for people who think the USA is already currently fascist: In your opinion, which countries are not currently fascist?
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Question for people who think the USA is already currently fascist: In your opinion, which countries are not currently fascist?
There are over 170 nation states in the world. I don't think it's necessary to become an expert on all of them to find the few who aren't at least a few stages down the path of fascism in order to justify calling out the US for it's fascist actions.
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Or the fact that we exported fascism to the rest of the world and men who did so are still seen as national heros.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/18/2023 10:42 PM
The only reason I don't consider the US itself fascist is because it lacks a centralized dictatorship controlling everything. That being said, I DO consider the US to be a plutocracy where any "representative" is bought and paid for by their wealthy donors who are truly in charge and beholden to no one.
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Once upon a time I decided it was a Totalitarian Oligarchy.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/18/2023 10:43 PM
And we have indeed exported fascism to other nations in the name of "fighting communism".
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And we have indeed exported fascism to other nations in the name of "fighting communism".
Ish... I'd say that the German American Bund actions and Lindbergh was more motivated by racist ideology.
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There are over 170 nation states in the world. I don't think it's necessary to become an expert on all of them to find the few who aren't at least a few stages down the path of fascism in order to justify calling out the US for it's fascist actions.
About 200 countries in the world. No, you do not have to be an expert about every single one to make a judgement. Basic knowledge of a handful is all that's really necessary. I'm just asking which you believe are not fascist, if any examples could be provided. I didn't say anything about calling out the US either What American "national heroes" exported fascism elsewhere?
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/18/2023 10:52 PM
I’d say Kennedy, but he sucked dick
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The Bund and its predecessor organizations were officially sponsored by Nazi Germany and Rudolf Hess was the one who gave Germans here permission to make such a group
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Hm, true
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/18/2023 10:53 PM
But yeah, Unu is frankly misrepresenting things pretty drastically imo
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Most Cold War presidents were responsible for it ig
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/18/2023 10:55 PM
Yeah
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/18/2023 10:55 PM
Operation Condor (Spanish: Operación Cóndor, also known as Plan Cóndor; Portuguese: Operação Condor) was a United States-backed campaign of political repression and state terrorism involving intelligence operations, CIA-backed coup d'états, as well as assassinations of left-wing socialist leaders in Latin and South America from 1968 to 1989. Hig...
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/18/2023 10:56 PM
Frankly, I think Kraut put it best: “Realism is just an excuse for and re-branding of imperialism”
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Once upon a time I decided it was a Totalitarian Oligarchy.
Here's where the disconnect is. I don't disagree with the fact that the US is an oligarchy, a plutocracy, a corrupt quasi-democratic state bought and paid for by the rich and so on. But totalitarian? I don't understand how anyone living here could think we are
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/18/2023 10:58 PM
I don’t deny these events, but I’d consider it imperialism rather than fascism
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Though you could argue they aren’t mutually exclusive
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Though you could argue they aren’t mutually exclusive
I believe Spinner meant that we export fascism elsewhere by installing and propping up authoritarian & fascist states like we did in Chile with Pinochet and his coup
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/18/2023 10:59 PM
I think its more appropriate to point out that the Government felt like it had right to lord over and meddle with these regions, and they felt it was there
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which is true
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/18/2023 11:00 PM
But I’m frankly just drunkenly arguing semantics at this point
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I don’t deny these events, but I’d consider it imperialism rather than fascism
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/18/2023 11:00 PM
I'm not saying the US is fascist, rather we exported it by propping up tin pot dictators because they didn't like the USSR.
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I'm not saying the US is fascist, rather we exported it by propping up tin pot dictators because they didn't like the USSR.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/18/2023 11:00 PM
That’s fair
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Again, drunken Semantics
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I’m not making a lot of sense
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/18/2023 11:01 PM
Again, I feel like we all have the same goal but are just caught up in the minutiae.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/18/2023 11:01 PM
I’m just gonna go to be d
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The USSR also often supported regimes that weren't necessarily Marxist-Leninist, but just opposed to the US, like Libya and Syria, although they openly professed themselves to be "socialist" countries We did the same, but these were often fascist or almost-fascist countries. Authoritarian capitalist dictatorships. Or even 'communists'/Marxist-Leniniststhat opposed the USSR, like China (during and after the Nixon era) and Yugoslavia. It was just realism (and imperialism) (edited)
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The USSR also often supported regimes that weren't necessarily Marxist-Leninist, but just opposed to the US, like Libya and Syria, although they openly professed themselves to be "socialist" countries We did the same, but these were often fascist or almost-fascist countries. Authoritarian capitalist dictatorships. Or even 'communists'/Marxist-Leniniststhat opposed the USSR, like China (during and after the Nixon era) and Yugoslavia. It was just realism (and imperialism) (edited)
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/18/2023 11:01 PM
Hell, ML is just fascism with a slightly shorter list of undesirables
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like I don't disagree with anyone here on our main goal, I'm just puzzled by people who say we're totalitarian or already fascist or whatever else. It doesn't make sense to me. But it doesn't affect our shared end goal, of our shared allies and shared enemies, and so on and so forth. It's just something to discuss
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why is everything in california so restrictive
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like I don't disagree with anyone here on our main goal, I'm just puzzled by people who say we're totalitarian or already fascist or whatever else. It doesn't make sense to me. But it doesn't affect our shared end goal, of our shared allies and shared enemies, and so on and so forth. It's just something to discuss
I'm going to say this once. Your privilege which keeps you from being the target of American fascists is not proof that we aren't well along the fascism scale. Just because you aren't being targeted personally. Doesn't mean that other citizens don't feel the steel toed boot of it every day.
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why is everything in california so restrictive
Because neo-liberals can be fascist.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/18/2023 11:52 PM
Because dems want a police state while repubs want a fascist theocracy.
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I say this as someone who was almost made a felon due to their recent attempt to ban body armor.
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Because dems want a police state while repubs want a fascist theocracy.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/18/2023 11:53 PM
One has slightly less zealotry involved. (edited)
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One has slightly less zealotry involved. (edited)
Just zealotry of a different flavor imo.
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like I don't disagree with anyone here on our main goal, I'm just puzzled by people who say we're totalitarian or already fascist or whatever else. It doesn't make sense to me. But it doesn't affect our shared end goal, of our shared allies and shared enemies, and so on and so forth. It's just something to discuss
For the record, I also don't think it matters with regards to our main goal. I think that everyone here whether or not they stan the US government or not, will acknowledge wrong action taken by the government and oppose it in their own way. But I'm pretty sure that some of you folks are going to assume good intention on the part of the government where there isn't any. And someone will probably end up paying for it.
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Because neo-liberals can be fascist.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/19/2023 12:12 AM
Californians when a deeply problematic issue imbedded into American culture isn't as black and white as Banning x thing or replacing it with an alternative that's literally just the same thing with a slightly cleaner coat of paint
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Californians when a deeply problematic issue imbedded into American culture isn't as black and white as Banning x thing or replacing it with an alternative that's literally just the same thing with a slightly cleaner coat of paint
Literally everyone when it comes to crime. There is only one way to remove the majority of crime from any culture. Remove poverty. But that would mean admitting capitalism isn't "The Way".
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/19/2023 12:21 AM
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/19/2023 12:33 AM
As someone on Reddit said, "Hey I love having the 1 percent decide what’s ethical while they let literal Enron turn off my heat".
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Hits particularly hard for me with how the HOA has relentlessly skirted doing... anything to help when our house flooded courtesy of a rainstorm and a clogged drainpipe. (edited)
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Hell, they tried to say we purposefully flooded the damn place just so they wouldn't have to pay for damages.
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Anybody who tries to say California's a paradise is more full of shit than a cesspit.
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Sorry for the tangent.
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Sorry for the tangent.
Naw you're good. This is peak capitalism working as intended. SNAFU
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Question for people who think the USA is already currently fascist: In your opinion, which countries are not currently fascist?
DevilTheAutopoet 5/19/2023 12:46 AM
I don't consider the US to be currently fascist, though it is well on its way. What I do consider the US to be, and unfortunately to have been since shortly after its foundation, is an empire. And I feel like that label is more apt for critique of the actions of the US through history, both in foreign and domestic policy.
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The 'empire' label I can get behind
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Anybody who tries to say California's a paradise is more full of shit than a cesspit.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/19/2023 12:49 AM
more full of shit than california itself
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Does it really matter? At the end of the day, the governmental authority sanctions their paramilitary forces beating and murdering civilians in the street without due process of law, and the law has been corrupted so that it is regularly used both to subjugate people based on their differences from the norm, and to put profits in the hands of billionaire oligarchs. Every level of our country's politicians use the threat of violence, and propagandized fearmongering to promote their agenda. Every voting district in the nation is to some degree gerrymandered in order to minimize the voice of the people through voting. And that's just shit that is universally true around the country.
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Then you have parts of the nation which have even more overtly fucked takes on how to deal with citizens.
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And absolutely zero effort from the federal government to stop it.
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And that's just legal shit... actually codified into the working of the government by law and judicial judgement.
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Does it really matter? At the end of the day, the governmental authority sanctions their paramilitary forces beating and murdering civilians in the street without due process of law, and the law has been corrupted so that it is regularly used both to subjugate people based on their differences from the norm, and to put profits in the hands of billionaire oligarchs. Every level of our country's politicians use the threat of violence, and propagandized fearmongering to promote their agenda. Every voting district in the nation is to some degree gerrymandered in order to minimize the voice of the people through voting. And that's just shit that is universally true around the country.
DevilTheAutopoet 5/19/2023 1:00 AM
It matters for the same reasons that linguistics and semantics always matter when engaging in these discussions. You can drive people away or bring them in by your choice of words. You can make your message much more clear or much more obscure. You can make your movement very appealing, or very repulsive. A difference in word choice is very often the difference between being perceived as brilliant and insightful and being perceived as the rambling village idiot. Words matter.
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It matters for the same reasons that linguistics and semantics always matter when engaging in these discussions. You can drive people away or bring them in by your choice of words. You can make your message much more clear or much more obscure. You can make your movement very appealing, or very repulsive. A difference in word choice is very often the difference between being perceived as brilliant and insightful and being perceived as the rambling village idiot. Words matter.
Sure, but when it talks like a duck, and walks like a duck, it's a fucking duck. Federal Agents literally pulled people off the street at gunpoint and held them for days questioning them about their affiliations with BLM. Not because they committed a crime, not because they were witnessed committing a crime, not because they knew someone who committed a crime. Simply because they were on the fucking sidewalk within a few blocks of a protest.
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6 BLM organizers were found hung from trees within a few weeks of one another. All of them ruled a suicide by the authorities.
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And absolutely zero effort from the federal government to stop it.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/19/2023 1:05 AM
Or in the dems case, saying they'll stop it and then doing it in the most slowballed way possible so they can say they did something and get voted in for another term.
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Or in the dems case, saying they'll stop it and then doing it in the most slowballed way possible so they can say they did something and get voted in for another term.
Fearmongering... vote for me or the GOP is gonna take away all your freedom. Meanwhile never passing any laws codifying things like Roe v Wade etc... so they can continue to milk that fear of the GOP.
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Sure, but when it talks like a duck, and walks like a duck, it's a fucking duck. Federal Agents literally pulled people off the street at gunpoint and held them for days questioning them about their affiliations with BLM. Not because they committed a crime, not because they were witnessed committing a crime, not because they knew someone who committed a crime. Simply because they were on the fucking sidewalk within a few blocks of a protest.
DevilTheAutopoet 5/19/2023 1:06 AM
Sure, but that's more indicative of authoritarianism and corruption more broadly than fascism specifically. Fascism is a very particular set of ideals, and it can only have utility for analysis when we use it on that basis. If we use fascism as a blanket term for all authoritarianism and corruption, then we eliminate the means with which to discuss what fascism actually specifically refers to. Which is bad precisely because of the fact that fascism is a particularly insidious form of authoritarianism.
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That's not to say that the government's actions specifically in regards to BLM aren't indicative of fascistic ideals being present in our government, and becoming moreso, particularly among law enforcement. But I would approach the issue on that basis, not on the basis of the US as a whole presently being a fascist country.
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Sure, but that's more indicative of authoritarianism and corruption more broadly than fascism specifically. Fascism is a very particular set of ideals, and it can only have utility for analysis when we use it on that basis. If we use fascism as a blanket term for all authoritarianism and corruption, then we eliminate the means with which to discuss what fascism actually specifically refers to. Which is bad precisely because of the fact that fascism is a particularly insidious form of authoritarianism.
I think it's the other way around brother. When you decide that fascist actions are not worth fighting because they don't fit the narrow view of what fascism is... then what is happening is far more insidious. No one is stupid enough to try to be the next Hitler or Mussolini (except those who are and thus are doomed to fail cough Trump/DeSantis/MTG etc), they have however spent billions of dollars studying how to institute totalitarian control over the past 40 years or so in a way that the public will buy it. They changed the playbook while you are still waiting for Hitler part 2. (edited)
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Except that there isn't a single Palpatine... but rather a couple hundred of them.
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I think it's the other way around brother. When you decide that fascist actions are not worth fighting because they don't fit the narrow view of what fascism is... then what is happening is far more insidious. No one is stupid enough to try to be the next Hitler or Mussolini (except those who are and thus are doomed to fail cough Trump/DeSantis/MTG etc), they have however spent billions of dollars studying how to institute totalitarian control over the past 40 years or so in a way that the public will buy it. They changed the playbook while you are still waiting for Hitler part 2. (edited)
DevilTheAutopoet 5/19/2023 1:14 AM
I'm not saying to wait for Hitler part 2, nor am I saying these actions aren't worth fighting. Nor do I define fascism as narrowly as you seem to think I do based on this comment. I'm simply saying that we should use fascism to mean what fascism has been used to mean since its foundation, and what it continues to mean and present itself as even now, not as a blanket term for authoritarianism in general. Authoritarianism in general is worth fighting. Imperialism specifically is even moreso. Fascism more specifically even moreso than that. Nazism even more specifically even moreso than that. But these terms all have meanings, and while those meanings are integrally connected, they are not the same. (edited)
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Thankfully Nazism doesn't seem to be the most prevalent form that Fascism is taking in the US. Christofascism is. Not a vast improvement admittedly. But... it's something ig. Though Nazism definitely does have a disturbingly large presence within American fascism regardless.
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"Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy." From it's inception the United States has been exactly this, and the only thing it lacks is the single dictator. Every other part of that definition can be applied to the United States of America.
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Authoritarian - Rule of Law (but only applied so it effects everyone but the ruling class), Centralized Autocracy - Congress, militarism - look at nearly every military action we've done, forcible suppression of opposition - literally every single time someone wants to change anything of importance, belief in a natural social hierarchy - slavery/classism/incarceration/redlining, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race - again over and over, strong regimentation of society and the economy - again from the beginning using laws police and many times propaganda which inspires civilians to violence against those who dare go against the norm or even just violence to inspire fear in order to gain public consent to crack down on freedoms. (edited)
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"Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy." From it's inception the United States has been exactly this, and the only thing it lacks is the single dictator. Every other part of that definition can be applied to the United States of America.
DevilTheAutopoet 5/19/2023 1:36 AM
Well let's dissect it. Far-right: This largely depends on how we're defining right and left. Are we speaking in absolute terms or relative ones? Are we speaking economically, socially, civically, or internationally? American policy has varied massively over the centuries so I would honestly hesitate to say that we were always "far-right". Even now, I'd definitely say we're right-wing, but relatively speaking I definitely don't think far-right is apt in anything other than economics. Authoritarian: I'll give you that one. Ultranationalist: We definitely have been at multiple points. And we're getting there again. But I wouldn't say we've always been ultranationalist. Nationalist, sure. Ultranationalist, no. Dictatorial leader: So, we actually have had incidences where for one reason or another the President was able to act largely unchecked and thus it could be said we fulfilled this role. This mainly occurred in times of total war, with Abraham Lincoln and FDR being the main examples. But for the most part no. Centralized Autocracy: See Dictatorial Leader. Militarism: Originally actually, no. In fact, at the start that was one of the big problems we kept running into. We didn't even have a standing army. But over time this definitely became more true, and definitely since the early twentieth century it's been the case. Forcible suppression of opposition: This was more off and on in the early years, but definitely since the First World War this has been pretty constant. Belief in natural social hierarchy: Yes and no. This has definitely been a prevalent feature in American politics, but precisely in that it's been at the core of most major conflicts in American politics. There's always been factions that support it, but there's always been factions that oppose it too, and those factions do trade off power pretty regularly. It's also heavily regional. Subordination of individual interests for the nation: Yeah I'll give that one. Subordination of individual interests for the race: See natural social hierarchy. Strong regimentation of society: I'll give you that one. Strong regimentation of the economy: No, and the absence of that is arguably part of the problem. It's a capitalist system where the capitalists are allowed to do basically whatever. But, because it's not strictly regimented, things like co-ops and unions and community land trusts are allowed to exist. They're just not super common because in unregimented capitalism it's hard for them to survive.
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Correction: The US Army was formalized as a standing army in 1789. We went a whole 6 years without a standing army.
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Correction: The US Army was formalized as a standing army in 1789. We went a whole 6 years without a standing army.
DevilTheAutopoet 5/19/2023 1:41 AM
Yes, but even after the standing army was established it took a while before it became a substantial force. Even longer before it became anything approaching the core piece of American politics and identity that it is now.
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Another point of contention... In fact capitalism is reinforced by law to the detriment of non-capitalist means of supplanting capitalist endeavors. While Co-Ops and Unions and Community Land Trusts are allowed to exist technically there are laws surrounding all of them which limit their ability to act... from resource rights to actually functioning as their purpose.
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Yes, but even after the standing army was established it took a while before it became a substantial force. Even longer before it became anything approaching the core piece of American politics and identity that it is now.
Yeah, it took a while for Madison to get his goal of a standing military capable of wielding our stick elsewhere. But it was the goal of Madison and others from the start. I'm not giving you that point.
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On Autocracy, I'll grant that it doesn't fit at all times. But I will state that the tiny difference of oligarchy vs autocracy is insignificant. Particularly given the relatively impossible nature of forging an autocratic dictatorship within the US culture. Less possible after WWII. This is a minor point however since power and decisions are in fact in the hands of a very small group of people who have zero vested interest in the well being of the population as a whole, and less so with minorities that they almost all universally see as inferior.
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Another point of contention... In fact capitalism is reinforced by law to the detriment of non-capitalist means of supplanting capitalist endeavors. While Co-Ops and Unions and Community Land Trusts are allowed to exist technically there are laws surrounding all of them which limit their ability to act... from resource rights to actually functioning as their purpose.
DevilTheAutopoet 5/19/2023 1:46 AM
Sure. I'll grant that a truly free market is intrinsically socialist. Anyone familiar with Mutualist theory and the history of anarchist economics knows that much. But you have to grant that within the framework of capitalism there's not only a lack of regimentation of firms within that context, but that it's precisely that lack that causes many of the problems that are unique to us that countries with more regulated capitalism don't have.
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Sure. I'll grant that a truly free market is intrinsically socialist. Anyone familiar with Mutualist theory and the history of anarchist economics knows that much. But you have to grant that within the framework of capitalism there's not only a lack of regimentation of firms within that context, but that it's precisely that lack that causes many of the problems that are unique to us that countries with more regulated capitalism don't have.
I think you are still looking at it from the wrong direction. Absence of regulation on capitalists is not absence of regulation on the economy. The regulation is there in VAST quantities of laws and codes and prohibitions. Everything from food to textiles to utilities to housing is regulated specifically for the benefit of capitalist extortion of the population. It's even in the food service codes and laws prohibiting distribution of food outside of restaurants. It's in the laws prohibiting people from growing food in their front yards. It's in the laws prohibiting people from capturing rain water. It's in the water rights charging insane prices to individuals for going over their water allotment, but charging corporations nothing for taking it all and bottling it.
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Literally thousands upon thousands of codes and statutes specifically regulating against the ability for people to feed and shelter themselves without dependency upon capitalism.
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7,200,000,000,000 - the approximate amount of money citizens spend on basic needs like food, shelter, and utilities yearly. All of that is regulated... specifically in favor of them paying that to capitalists. (edited)
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On Autocracy, I'll grant that it doesn't fit at all times. But I will state that the tiny difference of oligarchy vs autocracy is insignificant. Particularly given the relatively impossible nature of forging an autocratic dictatorship within the US culture. Less possible after WWII. This is a minor point however since power and decisions are in fact in the hands of a very small group of people who have zero vested interest in the well being of the population as a whole, and less so with minorities that they almost all universally see as inferior.
DevilTheAutopoet 5/19/2023 1:56 AM
I would disagree with this on two fronts. One is that this group has zero vested interest in the well being of the population as whole. They have vested interest in so far as that population is their workforce. Furthermore, healthy and educated (but not too educated) people make for better workers than completely uneducated and starving people. Furthermore, precisely because the US is a pseudo-representative semi-democracy, there is some extent to which these people have to throw the masses a bone every once in a while. I'd also contend with your seeming characterization of this group of elites as a monolith. They're not and actually they do have distinct sub-groups with opposing interests (which if we're tactically astute we can take advantage of). The easiest example to give of this is the fact that in terms of economic and foreign policy, Democrats generally represent the interests of capitalists in the Financial and Service Sectors, while Republicans generally represent Capitalists in the Manufacturing, Agricultural, and Resource Extraction Sectors. The social policies of the parties are partly based on the different values of these different sets of capitalists and partly just on the different values of the people in the areas where these different sectors tend to be prominent in general. (edited)
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I would disagree with this on two fronts. One is that this group has zero vested interest in the well being of the population as whole. They have vested interest in so far as that population is their workforce. Furthermore, healthy and educated (but not too educated) people make for better workers than completely uneducated and starving people. Furthermore, precisely because the US is a pseudo-representative semi-democracy, there is some extent to which these people have to throw the masses a bone every once in a while. I'd also contend with your seeming characterization of this group of elites as a monolith. They're not and actually they do have distinct sub-groups with opposing interests (which if we're tactically astute we can take advantage of). The easiest example to give of this is the fact that in terms of economic and foreign policy, Democrats generally represent the interests of capitalists in the Financial and Service Sectors, while Republicans generally represent Capitalists in the Manufacturing, Agricultural, and Resource Extraction Sectors. The social policies of the parties are partly based on the different values of these different sets of capitalists and partly just on the different values of the people in the areas where these different sectors tend to be prominent in general. (edited)
I think you have too high an opinion on their ability to perceive what would benefit them. These people make decisions daily that shoot themselves in the foot regarding their workforce and it's ability to be productive. They constantly ignore hard data analytics about productivity and long term value of investment in health and education. They ignore hard data about crime and it's causes and how living in poverty effects productivity of their labor force. There is in fact almost no data at all that suggests they actually acknowledge a vested interest in the well being of the population as a whole.
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Covid's still active... yet we're years passed the lockdown, and corporations are almost universally forcing their employees to go back to work in the office. This isn't government, this is the decisions of those oligarchs and their puppet caste directly.
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I think you are still looking at it from the wrong direction. Absence of regulation on capitalists is not absence of regulation on the economy. The regulation is there in VAST quantities of laws and codes and prohibitions. Everything from food to textiles to utilities to housing is regulated specifically for the benefit of capitalist extortion of the population. It's even in the food service codes and laws prohibiting distribution of food outside of restaurants. It's in the laws prohibiting people from growing food in their front yards. It's in the laws prohibiting people from capturing rain water. It's in the water rights charging insane prices to individuals for going over their water allotment, but charging corporations nothing for taking it all and bottling it.
DevilTheAutopoet 5/19/2023 2:05 AM
Ok. Let me ask you this then. Is that the sort of economic regulation that tends to define fascism? Many know that the term privatisation was invented in reference to Hitler's policies. What many don't know is that Hitler was somewhat uniquely pro-capitalism for a fascist. Many also don't know that the tripartite and corporatist system that we today know as Social Democracy or as the Nordic Model originated with Fascism. Generally, Fascists want a broadly capitalist system, but they want a capitalist system that serves the interests of the nation first and foremost, not the interests of whoever the individual capitalists happen to be. Capitalists have historically mainly supported fascists when the other option is socialism. And often they push for liberalisation away from fascism as quickly as they feasibly can. (edited)
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They are not a monolith as viewed from amongst their ranks... sure... but when it comes to the people, there is one universal truth. Labor is inferior to them. Nothing labor has to say has value because if their voice was worth listening to, they'd be part of the 1% and not labor.
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Ok. Let me ask you this then. Is that the sort of economic regulation that tends to define fascism? Many know that the term privatisation was invented in reference to Hitler's policies. What many don't know is that Hitler was somewhat uniquely pro-capitalism for a fascist. Many also don't know that the tripartite and corporatist system that we today know as Social Democracy or as the Nordic Model originated with Fascism. Generally, Fascists want a broadly capitalist system, but they want a capitalist system that serves the interests of the nation first and foremost, not the interests of whoever the individual capitalists happen to be. Capitalists have historically mainly supported fascists when the other option is socialism. And often they push for liberalisation away from fascism as quickly as they feasibly can. (edited)
I think that's picking at nits to be honest. The end result is a system which puts 7.2 Trillion dollars or more into the hands of capitalists by way of laws which prohibit or incredibly cost prohibit people from putting that money directly into their own family/community infrastructure. (edited)
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And that's just counting regulations on basic needs goods and services.
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I think that's picking at nits to be honest. The end result is a system which puts 7.2 Trillion dollars or more into the hands of capitalists by way of laws which prohibit or incredibly cost prohibit people from putting that money directly into their own family/community infrastructure. (edited)
DevilTheAutopoet 5/19/2023 2:10 AM
Well, the whole argument is over semantics, so picking at nits is kinda the name of the game here. I'm not arguing that our economic system doesn't suck. I'm arguing that it's not the type of "heavily regimented economy" meant when defining what constitutes or is indicative of fascism.
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If I were to agree that the USA wasn't "fascist", then I'd argue that we're mutating into some new form of totalitarian regime that is not only more insidious, but also potentially VASTLY more deadly. Especially considering the USA is pretty much at the back of the pack when it comes to trying to moderate the effects of climate change. We're still on course for losing over 250 million people to starvation and violence between 2050-2070.
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I think you have too high an opinion on their ability to perceive what would benefit them. These people make decisions daily that shoot themselves in the foot regarding their workforce and it's ability to be productive. They constantly ignore hard data analytics about productivity and long term value of investment in health and education. They ignore hard data about crime and it's causes and how living in poverty effects productivity of their labor force. There is in fact almost no data at all that suggests they actually acknowledge a vested interest in the well being of the population as a whole.
DevilTheAutopoet 5/19/2023 2:15 AM
Yes and no. This varies a lot, both country to country and firm to firm. Also, going to the division among the parties I was talking about, there's definitely a tendency for Manufacturing, Ag, and Mining capitalists to not see the benefit of investment in health and education and lowering crime rates and poverty and so forth. Financial sector and Service sector capitalists are more likely to see the value in it. That's partly because the Financial and Service sectors are much less impacted by labor costs. In fact, the Financial sector is practically completely isolated from labor costs, since it's basically an entire economic sector of capitalists finding new ways to sell money to each other.
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Yes and no. This varies a lot, both country to country and firm to firm. Also, going to the division among the parties I was talking about, there's definitely a tendency for Manufacturing, Ag, and Mining capitalists to not see the benefit of investment in health and education and lowering crime rates and poverty and so forth. Financial sector and Service sector capitalists are more likely to see the value in it. That's partly because the Financial and Service sectors are much less impacted by labor costs. In fact, the Financial sector is practically completely isolated from labor costs, since it's basically an entire economic sector of capitalists finding new ways to sell money to each other.
It's been a pleasure. You haven't convinced me... I've seen and felt the fear from people who are daily subjected to the jackbooted paramilitary thugs the government unconditionally supports. I've been thrown across the hood of my car by one for the crime of driving with a black passenger.
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If I were to agree that the USA wasn't "fascist", then I'd argue that we're mutating into some new form of totalitarian regime that is not only more insidious, but also potentially VASTLY more deadly. Especially considering the USA is pretty much at the back of the pack when it comes to trying to moderate the effects of climate change. We're still on course for losing over 250 million people to starvation and violence between 2050-2070.
DevilTheAutopoet 5/19/2023 2:18 AM
I can get on board with that. In fact, I've argued as much from a few different angles before (with other people on other servers).
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Also thank you for not resorting to American Exceptionalism, nor steamrolling, nor fallacious arguments that I woke up to this morning.
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It's been a pleasure. You haven't convinced me... I've seen and felt the fear from people who are daily subjected to the jackbooted paramilitary thugs the government unconditionally supports. I've been thrown across the hood of my car by one for the crime of driving with a black passenger.
DevilTheAutopoet 5/19/2023 2:22 AM
I once had to let it slide when a commissioned officer in the Army manhandled and threatened two of my friends. I didn't want to, but my friends held me back (literally) and told me that attacking a commissioned officer would land me in prison. I also have another friend who was raped by a cop. Who's still a cop. Trust me, there's no love lost between me and this system.
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Also thank you for not resorting to American Exceptionalism, nor steamrolling, nor fallacious arguments that I woke up to this morning.
DevilTheAutopoet 5/19/2023 2:23 AM
Of course. I have no interest in engaging in any such petty behaviour.
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Black Magic 5/19/2023 3:27 AM
Corruption is easy
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/19/2023 7:06 AM
now I think that is a record for how long two people talked about politics and without insulting eachother, unless I missed something (edited)
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now I think that is a record for how long two people talked about politics and without insulting eachother, unless I missed something (edited)
AvoidOblivion 5/19/2023 7:30 AM
I agree. It’s refreshing to see a civilized conversation.
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AvoidOblivion 5/19/2023 8:00 AM
This is part of why I respect Fetterman.
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He wears what we wants, not what others say is proper.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/19/2023 8:09 AM
lmao, if I was a politician you'd be seeong me
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This is part of why I respect Fetterman.
MisterStompy 5/19/2023 11:14 AM
"how dare he dress like the average American?!?!?!?!"
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/19/2023 11:15 AM
XD
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bro is a dad at his son's football game
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YEAH ITS FOOTBALL NOT SOCCER
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MisterStompy 5/19/2023 11:16 AM
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/19/2023 11:17 AM
ITS FOOTBALL
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YOU KICK
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TJE BALL
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WITH THE FOOT
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cry about it
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/19/2023 1:19 PM
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) opened and called for an investigation into Anheuser-Busch over its collaboration with transgender influencer Dylan Mulvaney, saying that the company was potentially marketi…
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YEAH ITS FOOTBALL NOT SOCCER
It's makes much more sense to be called football than American football which really should be handegg.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/19/2023 2:43 PM
I've proposed renaming american football to "tackleball" or something similar.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/19/2023 2:43 PM
American football
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cry about it
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/19/2023 2:43 PM
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He wears what we wants, not what others say is proper.
LouisiAnarchist 5/19/2023 3:02 PM
Me too, I wear what I please because it's comfortable
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Futbol Americano
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LouisiAnarchist 5/19/2023 3:12 PM
Futbol Europa
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Make both of them have a qualifier
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LoL
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I'm annoyed that Duolingo makes me translate fútbol into soccer.
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It's football, not soccer.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/19/2023 3:29 PM
I will burn duolingo to the ground
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that little green shit thinks Im scared of him?
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Honestly though, it's been working well for how I learn best. Give me new concepts then sprinkle them in slowly with the ones you've already introduced, that way I practice old stuff and new stuff.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/19/2023 3:45 PM
its good, but looking through spanish written media is a really good option too
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movies
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books
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etc
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thats how I learned english lol
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cus my schools program was fucking dogshit
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Either way its completely fine if you're having trouble cus of language groups
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I mean, I didn't really get the option to learn another language in high school. I want to be able to read more in Spanish, but I'm still kinda just building on the fundamentals right now.
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At the moment, i don't quite have the vocabulary for even fairly basic media. I honestly only started learning fairly recently.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/19/2023 3:56 PM
Good luck then, Spanish can be hard
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I'm picking it up faster than I thought I would.
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It helps that it shares some similarities with English.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/19/2023 3:59 PM
Some
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
I've proposed renaming american football to "tackleball" or something similar.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/19/2023 3:59 PM
it’s technically called gridiron football
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so i just call it gridiron
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It helps that it shares some similarities with English.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/19/2023 3:59 PM
if you wanna learn slang its gonna get hard
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Oh, I get that.
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Slang and idioms are confusing in any language, English included.
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I want to at the very least get to a point that I can have basic conversations in Spanish.
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I started a bit over a week ago and I got through the first section and started on the second one which I'm about 1/4 of the way through.
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Oh, I get that.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/19/2023 4:11 PM
Marica which is literally the F slur is a way to call someone a friend here and in Venezuela
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close friends of course
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i'm not joking
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YEAH ITS FOOTBALL NOT SOCCER
soccer originates from association football. therefore, playing football in a competitive environment is soccer
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/19/2023 4:12 PM
i will slap you
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through the computer screen?
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bitchass
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Marica which is literally the F slur is a way to call someone a friend here and in Venezuela
Like calling someone a cunt in Australia?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/19/2023 4:15 PM
yeah
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When you say "here", I'm not sure where you live. Mexico is my guess?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/19/2023 4:15 PM
Panama
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lmao
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Is Panama said the same way in Spanish?
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Or is it a bit different?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/19/2023 4:17 PM
entonation
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Panamá
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the funny little lines above letters are gonna be a pain for you :D they already are a pain for me
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How so?
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Don't they just indicate a stressed sound?
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Or do you mean with typing?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/19/2023 4:23 PM
nope
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the "tilde" is for entonation
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and every word has entonation
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How so?
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I guess I'm not quite sure what you mean?
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A dozen poor countries are facing economic instability and even collapse under the weight of hundreds of billions of dollars in foreign loans, much of them from the world’s biggest and most unforgiving government lender, China.
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LouisiAnarchist 5/19/2023 4:44 PM
China has been bailing out risky loans it made for its Belt and Road Initiative, new research shows. The U.S. should see an opportunity, writes Elaine Dezenski.
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Seems like a financial news website is gloating that it's more like the subprime lending crisis than a pushy bookie situation. They loaned to countries that were the least credit worthy in the world.
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I was listening to coverage of the Belt and Road Initiative from a podcast (I think True Anon ) to the effect that since infrastructure is not a profitable and is often a risky investment countries like the US and groups like the EU just will not bother to loan the money to so called "developing nations" so they can develop the means to create more efficient use of their resources that will bring cash in to govts who can pay back the loans.
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Seems like a financial news website is gloating that it's more like the subprime lending crisis than a pushy bookie situation. They loaned to countries that were the least credit worthy in the world.
MisterStompy 5/19/2023 5:33 PM
I think they were betting on their military might being able to force those countries into either paying them back or just ceding more land to the Chinese state, but they're watching how Russia is performing and not wanting to take that risk.
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I keep having to remind everyone that ever since the late 90's at least the Chinese army has been doing drills with the Russians nonstop. They have the same tactics and a lot of the same equipment, and China potentially has even MORE corruption in their military considering the issues with nepotism.
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It's hilarious how so many tankies will lift China up as this bulwark against American imperialism when their actions for the past 10 years or so have just been them trying to do soft colonialism in the form of predatory loans. Xi Jinping thinks that China should have colonized Africa alongside the European powers during the 1800's, so that's what he's been attempting all this time.
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LouisiAnarchist 5/19/2023 6:29 PM
Fair and it can also be more complex than that. I just wish coverage like this wouldnt do the milquetoast "well the US 'could be doing more for developing countries" like there's not a moral lens on this shit all it's just dick measuring
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Fair and it can also be more complex than that. I just wish coverage like this wouldnt do the milquetoast "well the US 'could be doing more for developing countries" like there's not a moral lens on this shit all it's just dick measuring
MisterStompy 5/19/2023 9:22 PM
I think the food we donate to the world food bank is good enough atm. We've seen what happens when we get involved in "nation building"
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The US will do more for developing countries when doing more for developing countries proves to be more profitable
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MisterStompy 5/19/2023 11:52 PM
"Guys the democrats don't actually do anything they're exact same thing as the republicans you guys they just want to stop our revolution" https://twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1659669139768631298
Minnesota Democrats just passed guaranteed paid family and medical leave after winning full control of government. They have already used their new full control to protect abortion rights, LGBTQ rights, and pass common-sense gun safety reform. https://t.co/aH9KkQK4fR
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"Guys the democrats don't actually do anything they're exact same thing as the republicans you guys they just want to stop our revolution" https://twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1659669139768631298
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/20/2023 12:07 AM
By Hannah Dreier
The White House and federal agencies were repeatedly alerted to signs of children at risk. The warnings were ignored or missed.
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Correct.
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Probably some "insurgent democrats" in Minnesota's case.
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Correct.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/20/2023 12:25 AM
Not saying to not vote. I'm saying to not trust them implicitly.
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They are political meat shields and nothing else.
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MisterStompy 5/20/2023 12:25 AM
Fair
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Not saying to not vote. I'm saying to not trust them implicitly.
Actually decent take. Thanks unu
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/20/2023 12:27 AM
https://www.npr.org/2022/11/11/1135878576/the-democrats-strategy-of-boosting-far-right-candidates-seems-to-have-worked Especially given how they've sometimes boosted fascists for the sole purpose of making themselves look better.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/20/2023 12:31 AM
Pretty much.
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I'd rather the transition to a better society be as peaceful as possible and that's got a much higher chance of happening with the dems than the fascists of the GOP.
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I'd rather the transition to a better society be as peaceful as possible and that's got a much higher chance of happening with the dems than the fascists of the GOP.
Better hope they get off their ass and do something serious about climate change then. Because, it won't matter who's in charge when people start getting worried about feeding their kids. Peaceful will be a thing of the past. Civility ends when basic needs can't be attained. And we're gonna get to the point where whole percentages of the population cannot find enough food.
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how anti semetic is this comment?
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if you think its anti semetic
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feel free to report bomb it
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It is. It's a common talking point: "Jews are a group that don't assimilate, don't mix with others, encourage endogamy and sometimes even support Jewish supremacy over gentiles. Jews protect themselves but promote diversity and mixing among other peoples to destroy them." They pretend to care about racism by Jews, whether real (mainly in the case of Haredim, which are a minority of Jews) or imagined (which is the case most of the time), in order to look like they're non-biased anti-racists and Jews are the "real racists." It's anti-Semitism under a weak disguise. (edited)
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It is. It's a common talking point: "Jews are a group that don't assimilate, don't mix with others, encourage endogamy and sometimes even support Jewish supremacy over gentiles. Jews protect themselves but promote diversity and mixing among other peoples to destroy them." They pretend to care about racism by Jews, whether real (mainly in the case of Haredim, which are a minority of Jews) or imagined (which is the case most of the time), in order to look like they're non-biased anti-racists and Jews are the "real racists." It's anti-Semitism under a weak disguise. (edited)
so should we try to report bomb him?
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ive reported his comments multiple times and they have not been removed
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/20/2023 12:20 PM
Yes
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ive reported his comments multiple times and they have not been removed
AvoidOblivion 5/20/2023 5:24 PM
It often takes a day or two, in some cases more, for Reddit to respond.
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It often takes a day or two, in some cases more, for Reddit to respond.
i only reported to the subreddit
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only once or twice to admins
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In fantastic news, the owners of Star Garden in North Hollywood finally gave up fighting the dancers who were trying to unionize. All of the dancers they fired for attempting to unionize will be rehired, the dancers are now a local union of Actor's Equity which means they are officially stage performers. And in ~30 days Actors Equity will negotiate the first contract prior to the club's re-opening. (edited)
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MisterStompy 5/20/2023 11:45 PM
Serbians are currently protesting in huge numbers against their president.
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MisterStompy 5/20/2023 11:46 PM
Aleksandar Vučić is a an extremely far right former member of multiple neofascist parties and was a prolific member of Milosevic's propaganda apparatus during the Kosovo war.
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oh crap
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MisterStompy 5/20/2023 11:47 PM
He's also VERY pro Putin and lets Wagner do combat drill shit out in the forests.
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oh crap
MisterStompy 5/20/2023 11:50 PM
This is a very common thing in Serbia. Their government hasn't changed much at all since the 90's. There's still tons of resentment against the west due to NATO bombing them during the Bosnian and Kosovo wars. In the Bosnian war there were NATO air strikes on Serbian artillery positions and airbases in Bosnia and during the Kosovo war strategic bombing was done on Serbia proper. Keep in mind Milosevic very much started this, both wars were started by Serbia/Yugoslavia (it depends on who you talk to but "Yugoslavia" at that point was just Serbia) and featured literally every war crime imaginable, with most of them being performed either by the Serbian army or by Bosnian-Serb militants. The Kosovo war was notorious because eventually the regular Serbian army got sick of being told to do atrocities all the time, so instead ultranationalist volunteer militias started to supplant them on the battlefield. (edited)
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This is a good sign, though. Protests haven't been this big since the pro democracy protests between the Bosnian and Kosovo wars when Milosevic "won" something like 130% of the vote.
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The Narrative on Twitter is cope, saying it's because he's in the WEF, but that's not the case.
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This is a very common thing in Serbia. Their government hasn't changed much at all since the 90's. There's still tons of resentment against the west due to NATO bombing them during the Bosnian and Kosovo wars. In the Bosnian war there were NATO air strikes on Serbian artillery positions and airbases in Bosnia and during the Kosovo war strategic bombing was done on Serbia proper. Keep in mind Milosevic very much started this, both wars were started by Serbia/Yugoslavia (it depends on who you talk to but "Yugoslavia" at that point was just Serbia) and featured literally every war crime imaginable, with most of them being performed either by the Serbian army or by Bosnian-Serb militants. The Kosovo war was notorious because eventually the regular Serbian army got sick of being told to do atrocities all the time, so instead ultranationalist volunteer militias started to supplant them on the battlefield. (edited)
Oh no, I'm aware of this. I wasn't aware the current Serbian president participated
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MisterStompy 5/20/2023 11:56 PM
In all fairness to Serbian voters, they don't have much choice because anybody who runs for president is some form of a war crime denier/celebrator.
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This is a good sign, though. Protests haven't been this big since the pro democracy protests between the Bosnian and Kosovo wars when Milosevic "won" something like 130% of the vote.
Sadly I know a guy who became a cop there and will by now be one of the fascist thugs taking it out on the people. His being dead set on becoming a cop was why we stopped talking. Especially once he started claiming to learn the truth about Milosevic at the academy and how Milosevic was framed via false flag ops.
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Oh no, I'm aware of this. I wasn't aware the current Serbian president participated
Participated, and after the fact was a major mover in the movement to whitewash Milosevic and his underlings crimes.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/21/2023 1:40 AM
Good ol' Slobberdong Crylosebitch. (edited)
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yikes
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for context: N-VA are flemmish nationalists. They used to be more multi-factions but since 20 years ago they took a sharp turn right. Vlaams Belang is straight up fascist, former Nazi collaborator party. Both of them combined nears 50% in the polls
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(in flanders)
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The Vlaamsch Nationaal Verbondcode: nld promoted to code: nl (Dutch for "Flemish National Union" or "Flemish National League"), widely known by its acronym VNV, was a Flemish nationalist political party active in Belgium between 1933 and 1945. It became the leading force of political collaboration in Flanders during the German occupation of Bel...
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In case anyone wants to lose a few brain cells this fine sunday https://twitter.com/InRangeTV/status/1660325220136124422
This is a real email that was forwarded to me. We continue to love Red Lobster.
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MisterStompy 5/21/2023 3:03 PM
So two things 1. Ron is FUCKED the minute he gets on stage with Trump 2. I'm actually taller than Ron DeSantis lmaaaao
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everyone's taller than desantis
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/21/2023 3:13 PM
Manlet
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can someone upvote me and report this person?
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they seem to be getting away with anti jewish comments
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on a leftist subreddit
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/21/2023 3:19 PM
Not surprisdd whatsoever
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Its reddit did you expect them to not be full of shit
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holy shit
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reddit just 1984ed his account
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AIF Cuirassier regiment
Not surprisdd whatsoever
not so fast
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look at the thread again
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/21/2023 3:37 PM
I saw
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jeeeesus
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They got Stalin'd lmfao (edited)
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sifferent comment
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I saw
wdym?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/21/2023 3:38 PM
I went in a bit later and saw it was all gone
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i saw a message saying u/nocturnal rainbow
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I went in a bit later and saw it was all gone
you jusr gotta look
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i linked the thread instead of the comment
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/21/2023 3:39 PM
Oh they back
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and change the downvote ratio
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its bad that hes more upvoted then me
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also found a likely hamas supporter
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this guy is avoiding the question like the plague
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/21/2023 7:22 PM
Christ what a fucking dick
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Christ what a fucking dick
hamas are like the prime fascists of the middle east
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alongside those hezbo guys in lebenon
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/21/2023 8:29 PM
not surprised
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also found a likely hamas supporter
Why bother caring about some rando on Reddit? Who cares if he supports Hamas? Who is he that his support would matter?
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Why bother caring about some rando on Reddit? Who cares if he supports Hamas? Who is he that his support would matter?
it angers me (edited)
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the saga of idiocy continues
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AvoidOblivion 5/21/2023 9:46 PM
That person seems almost delusional with how they are responding.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/21/2023 9:49 PM
he's so full of shit....
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i hope he justs says it, that he supports hamas
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the nazis of the middle east
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/22/2023 12:01 AM
The two men had joined an online neo-Nazi community before planning the attack.
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this guys posts are some of the most bigoted ive ever seen
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i hope he justs says it, that he supports hamas
I favour the resistance of the palestinian people toward the genocidal, terrorist, settler-colonial and apartheid state of Israel, also when that resistance is conducted by Hamas. I do not favour islamic fundamentalism.
This seems like your answer
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AvoidOblivion 5/22/2023 12:55 PM
@Andrium if you have any further questions or want to discuss this more, I will be in here.
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@Andrium if you have any further questions or want to discuss this more, I will be in here.
i dont have questions, just telling you to not say that other people are "tankies" or "tankie adjasent " when they are just saying that communist theory is more complex than "we will have a totalitarian state and that is when we will do the good"
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its not even that it is more "complex" than that
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that guy just straight up lied about what marx thought
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i dont have questions, just telling you to not say that other people are "tankies" or "tankie adjasent " when they are just saying that communist theory is more complex than "we will have a totalitarian state and that is when we will do the good"
AvoidOblivion 5/22/2023 1:01 PM
That is a good point. I haven’t read Marx so I won’t comment on his teachings. I will be reading No Gods, No Masters by Daniel Guerin soon, and I will be able to better comment on what he says.
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That is a good point. I haven’t read Marx so I won’t comment on his teachings. I will be reading No Gods, No Masters by Daniel Guerin soon, and I will be able to better comment on what he says.
if you need any recommendations on understanding marx i can make you a short reading list
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i am not a marxist but it is helpful to at the very least understand what the dude is saying
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AvoidOblivion 5/22/2023 1:04 PM
Knowledge is power. I thirst for more.
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Knowledge, that is.
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Knowledge is power. I thirst for more.
so is that a yes?
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AvoidOblivion 5/22/2023 1:06 PM
Yes please.
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Yes please.
1. Critique of the gotha programme is hella important 2. Civil war in france is also a necessary work 3. Communist manifesto (although do read the prefaces on this one, they have some very important info, after the paris commune marx's views changed a lot, which is evident in the civil war in france too) those three are absolutely essential I would say, with marx's critiques of such things as egalitarianism and reformism and most fundamental tenets of marxism layed out
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there are a lot more of course
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but these are the most important by far
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might also want to read "Principles of Communism" and "Socialism: utopian and scientific" by engels
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AvoidOblivion 5/22/2023 1:15 PM
Do you have any specific versions in mind, or just whichever ones are available?
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i am not aware of a specific translation making a huge difference on the meaning of the text
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i have read the marxists.org versions but since you cant copyright this stuff there are plenty of versions online
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and again there are a lot of books from marxists that are also worth reading but i think that reading marx and engels is way better as it is the primary source
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and marx has written a lot more stuff like the "The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte" and "Poverty of philosophy" which are also good
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but the three first ones are absolutely essential
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I favour the resistance of the palestinian people toward the genocidal, terrorist, settler-colonial and apartheid state of Israel, also when that resistance is conducted by Hamas. I do not favour islamic fundamentalism.
This seems like your answer
sound lik he supports hamas
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but doesnt support hamas
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/22/2023 1:29 PM
he wouldn't say yes, but he wouldn't say no
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he sounds guiltier than sin
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he sounds guiltier than sin
guilty of hamas support (edited)
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SINAN OĞAN ANNOUNCED THAT HE WILL SUPPORT RECEP TAYYIP ERDOĞAN IN THE 2nd PRESIDENT ELECTIONS.
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SINAN OĞAN ANNOUNCED THAT HE WILL SUPPORT RECEP TAYYIP ERDOĞAN IN THE 2nd PRESIDENT ELECTIONS.
shit fucking shit (edited)
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also hamas guy has now resorted to accusing me of supporting the israeli government.
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shit fucking shit (edited)
honestly as soon as erdogan was ahead in first round, no way he loses
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honestly as soon as erdogan was ahead in first round, no way he loses
ogan likely did it so he wouldnt end up in a jail cell
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it gets only worse
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this person refuses to believe i can have a nuanced opinion
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/22/2023 3:26 PM
Leaked Fox News policies indicate Fox permits employees to use bathrooms that align with their gender identity, rather than their biology.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/22/2023 3:36 PM
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/22/2023 3:44 PM
where's the curve your enthusiasm theme
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AvoidOblivion 5/22/2023 4:21 PM
If you took the shot, make your peace, ask for forgiveness. All Vaccinated people will die within 2 years Nobel Prize Winner Luc Montagnier has confirmed that there is no chance of survival for people who have received any form of the vaccine. In the shocking interview,
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/22/2023 4:22 PM
Source?
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for her claims
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AvoidOblivion 5/22/2023 4:33 PM
She provided one… from 4chan.
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Both posted source links bring you to error messages.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/22/2023 4:38 PM
Ah yes, the most trusted fountain of knowledge
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luc_Montagnier He died (albeit at the age of 90)
Luc Montagnier (US: MON-tən-YAY, MOHN-tahn-YAY, French: [lyk mɔ̃taɲje]; 18 August 1932 – 8 February 2022) was a French virologist and joint recipient, with Françoise Barré-Sinoussi and Harald zur Hausen, of the 2008 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for his discovery of the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV). He worked as a researcher at th...
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He started spreading bullshit around 2009, after winning his Nobel award in 2008
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My last vaccination was like New Years 2021, so I passed the two year mark a few months ago
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I knew you'd like it
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I knew you'd like it
Hey I want you to be alive. Don't always agree with ya, but I like having you around.
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I meant the song
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But thank you
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I appreciate it
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The song would have been one I liked except that it was hella overplayed back in the day.
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AvoidOblivion 5/22/2023 7:37 PM
What song is it?
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Alive by Pearl Jam, from 1991 @AvoidOblivion
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AvoidOblivion 5/22/2023 9:26 PM
I thought it sounded similar. Thanks.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/23/2023 10:26 AM
Considering Martinelli has an actual chance of winning the election because people are fucking stupid, what's a good state for me to move into
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/23/2023 10:57 AM
trolling equipment (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/23/2023 1:28 PM
Great for Stonewalling opposition.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/23/2023 1:45 PM
When are we forming the AIF Brickadeer regiment
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/23/2023 2:04 PM
Disclaimer: Do not actually brick deers.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/23/2023 2:24 PM
fuck I spelt it wrong
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Brickadiers
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Disclaimer: Do not actually brick deers.
Awwwww so I can’t throw bricks at deers?
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Sadge
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AvoidOblivion 5/23/2023 8:16 PM
The Florida governor will announce he is running for president on Twitter Wednesday evening in a conversation with Musk.
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MisterStompy 5/23/2023 9:09 PM
9/10 chance this is gonna be DeSantis' "Pokemon Go To The Polls" moment
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Also Kari Lake has been told to shut the fuck up https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1660831475623772161
🚨BREAKING: Arizona Court REJECTS Kari Lake's last legal challenge to the 2022 election for governor. Court confirms "the election of Katie Hobbs as Arizona Governor." https://t.co/tDIqBbqghq
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looks luke an ugly ass building they built on top of a demolished mosque
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AvoidOblivion 5/24/2023 8:27 AM
The billionaires and large corporations backing "No Labels" are deeply invested in maintaining the status quo and opposing Democrats' agenda for working people.
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More shocking is, they think Dems are effective enough to oppose.
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MisterStompy 5/24/2023 1:23 PM
I've decided that if I'm ever caught committing a crime, like if I assault somebody or something, when the cops are putting me in handcuffs I'll just say "hey woah woah woah, why are you focusing on me here? you seem to be forgetting that time America invaded Iraq in 2003."
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"it looks like you've fallen for the western media narrative, officer"
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/24/2023 1:40 PM
lmao
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Ron desantis has finally announced his run for president.
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Ron desantis has finally announced his run for president.
MisterStompy 5/24/2023 6:26 PM
It's not going over well with the right on Twitter, people are mostly shitting on him
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It's not going over well with the right on Twitter, people are mostly shitting on him
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I was at the gym during the announcement, so I probably have missed most of the good stuff by now
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MisterStompy 5/24/2023 9:07 PM
The citibike Karen’s redacted “receipt” has been debunked and it turns out it was a hoax to smear the black man who rented it (Allegedly). @AttorneyJMarino if you’re down bad for more billable hours, feel free to waste your client’s money and take me to court 🤷‍♂️
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Honestly it would be amazing if this whole thing was set up by both parties just to fuck with people.
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Anyway Ron's Twitter space crashed like six times and he barely said anything, the comments on this post are telling, it's people either calling him a fascist or Trump supporters calling him a rino, there's like four people with positive comments. https://twitter.com/RonDeSantis/status/1661491799393964034
I’m running for president to lead our Great American Comeback.
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He's going to get annihilated by Trump in the debates
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No matter what happens, you can hear Ron DeSantis’ agenda loud and clear.
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They're actually using Ron's soyjak in campaign ads
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they just want the dept to default it seems
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what does that mean?
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what does that mean?
MisterStompy 5/24/2023 9:26 PM
it's pretty self explanatory
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it's pretty self explanatory
as in?
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as in?
MisterStompy 5/24/2023 9:32 PM
they're making fun of Ron DeSantis
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they're making fun of Ron DeSantis
ah
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Anyone able to help me brand a collective residence construction costs as something the reactionary right will throw money at? Because these people raking in the cash for utterly stupid shit has got to be something we can exploit.
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MisterStompy 5/25/2023 1:18 AM
On DeSantis' site theres a scrolling bar of names who have "just donated" However its just a scrolling list of the same names repeating
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/25/2023 1:35 AM
@joe hill’s revenge YOU DONATED???!!!
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/s
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@joe hill’s revenge YOU DONATED???!!!
joe hill’s revenge 5/25/2023 4:18 AM
I am desantises strongest soldier!
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BubsyFanboy 5/25/2023 6:10 AM
He should respond with this (edited)
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AvoidOblivion 5/25/2023 8:01 AM
The hacker group Anonymous has claimed to have taken over the website for Moms for Liberty. A TikTok video from one of their accounts made the claim about an hour ago. We confirmed that the website is indeed down. In the video, they incorrectly reference Moms for Liberty as “Moms OF Liberty,” but the appropriate […]
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Welcome to the PolitiScales, the online political test. You will be confronted to a series of affirmations and for each of them you will have to click on the button which corresponds the most to your opinion.
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also this is a cool political test
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one of the best ones out there
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It's funny, I think I took this a few years ago and got the same or a very similar flag
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Politicians are already caricatures of humans, but that fool goes past it to be a caricature of a clown.
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DevilTheAutopoet 5/25/2023 12:28 PM
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MisterStompy 5/25/2023 1:22 PM
I'm honestly kind of pissed how much I like democrats now (edited)
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I'm honestly kind of pissed how much I like democrats now (edited)
Okay, but it's funny as hell.
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Okay, but it's funny as hell.
MisterStompy 5/25/2023 1:41 PM
I know that's why I like them lmao
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MisterStompy 5/25/2023 5:08 PM
A unanimous Supreme Court has given a 94-year-old Minneapolis woman a new chance to recoup some money after the county kept the entire $40,000 when it sold her condominium over a small unpaid tax bill. The justices ruled Thursday that Hennepin County, Minnesota violated the constitutional rights of the woman, Geraldine Tyler, by taking her prope...
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/25/2023 5:12 PM
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MisterStompy 5/25/2023 5:42 PM
If you're going to confront fascists at pride, call them pedophiles. Loudly. Repeatedly. All the time. Every one of them. They do it to everyone else, why not do it back? You're far more likely to be making an accurate accusation than they are, regardless. https://twitter.com/JUNlPER/status/1661793130830594058
just found out the guy who is lying about the trans flag being the “MAP flag” was charged in court as a pedophile
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MisterStompy 5/25/2023 5:56 PM
Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton is facing a historic impeachment vote after years of scandal, criminal charges and corruption accusations. A Republican-led House investigative committee on Thursday recommended impeaching the state’s top lawyer. Only two officials in Texas’ nearly 200-year history have been impeached. The state House of Represe...
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Lots of paper, maybe some documents on fire in the dumpster outside the Texas Attorney General's office #txlege
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/25/2023 6:01 PM
they don't even hide it
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thats a crime even if they can't recover anything
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I am desantises strongest soldier!
Please please convince him to run independently after Trump becomes the Republican nominee for POTUS (edited)
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Anonymous still exists?
Anonymous never existed, I surely don't know what you are talking about.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/26/2023 1:46 PM
Alr lets get political
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favorite modern day MBT?
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mine is the challebger 2
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favorite modern day MBT?
This is political?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/26/2023 1:48 PM
not really, but it could start shit
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This is political?
AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/26/2023 1:48 PM
answer anyways
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answer anyways
I know close to nothing about tanks
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/26/2023 1:49 PM
understandable
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tank discussion can get very toxic
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MisterStompy 5/26/2023 4:45 PM
For those asking "why did the Texas GOP suddenly decide to impeach Paxton now after eight years of his scandals being known?" This thread explains why: he allegedly just tried to bribe whistleblowers with taxpayer money, and GOP lawmakers would have had to sign off on that bribe.
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favorite modern day MBT?
MisterStompy 5/26/2023 4:46 PM
Tie between Abrams and Lelerc.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/26/2023 4:46 PM
personally, mine's the challenger
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i got a soft spot for that boxy french lad
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MisterStompy 5/26/2023 4:47 PM
Challenger is Bri'ish
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Lelerc is French
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Wait I was spelling it wrong, it's Leclerc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leclerc_tank
The Leclerc is a third-generation French main battle tank developed and manufactured by Nexter Systems. It was named in honor of Marshal Philippe Leclerc de Hauteclocque, a commander of the Free French Forces, who led the 2nd Armoured Division in World War II. The Leclerc is in service with the French Army, Jordanian Army and the United Arab Emi...
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We are at Defcon fucking 1, people. Libertarians are now calling out Republicans for their pedophilia. https://twitter.com/LP_CLC/status/1661819934546993155
@FDRLST remember when The Federalist published an article arguing that grooming kids for sex is perfectly normal and Alabama should elect groomers to the United States Senate Pepperidge Farms remembers
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/26/2023 4:53 PM
HOLY SHIT
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We are at Defcon fucking 1, people. Libertarians are now calling out Republicans for their pedophilia. https://twitter.com/LP_CLC/status/1661819934546993155
BubsyFanboy 5/26/2023 5:00 PM
More like the last decent caucus of the Party left.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/26/2023 5:17 PM
The right: "LOL! THE LEFT ARE SUCH EASILY OFFENDED SNOWFLAKES!!" Also the right:
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/26/2023 6:34 PM
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anyone want a politics themed challange?
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if so try this
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the year is 1947
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you are put in charge of the palestine partition project
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your job is to make the borders for a jewish and arabic state
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taking geography into account, while carefully considering demographics and land ownership, you must attempt to make the ideal partition
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(if you like this i can do one for india tomorrow) REMEMBER TO USE A SIMPLE PROGRAM LIKE ME PAINT TO DRAW YOUR MAPS AND NOT JUST COMMENT YOUR IDEAS (edited)
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That is a nightmare map
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/26/2023 8:55 PM
well i have a solution for myself, it involves a pistol and one round
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i am NOT dealing with that
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FUCK THAT
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here is my first try
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the borders are contigious and populations mostly homogenous
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but i sacrificed fairness for smooth borders
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smooth borders do not benifit palestinians
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due to their more scattered distribution
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my second try will be more fair
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but janky
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also forgot to add that old city jerusalem is presumed to be an international zone in this map
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DevilTheAutopoet 5/26/2023 9:20 PM
It's basically tankie speak for "music degenerate thugs listen to".
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/26/2023 9:21 PM
that
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is
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a pure yikes moment
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here is my balanced map
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but with janky borders
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did anyone else try this?
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did anyone else try this?
Not touching that with a 10 foot pole.
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Not touching that with a 10 foot pole.
you will fail then?
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you will fail then?
No matter how you draw the lines the experiment was damned to fail.
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Yea.... not with that make up
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No matter how you draw the lines the experiment was damned to fail.
obviously
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and this may sound synical
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but the population exchanges caused by the nakba actually made the borders easier to draw
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(if you like this i can do one for india tomorrow) REMEMBER TO USE A SIMPLE PROGRAM LIKE ME PAINT TO DRAW YOUR MAPS AND NOT JUST COMMENT YOUR IDEAS (edited)
DevilTheAutopoet 5/26/2023 11:30 PM
Balkanization ftw.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/26/2023 11:31 PM
AH
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Balkanization ftw.
DevilTheAutopoet 5/26/2023 11:35 PM
On this map Jerusalem is an autonomous city-state, sort of akin to the Vatican, administrated by a council of elected leaders from each of the three main Abrahamic religions.
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On this map Jerusalem is an autonomous city-state, sort of akin to the Vatican, administrated by a council of elected leaders from each of the three main Abrahamic religions.
Congrats, you just set the Zionists on a warpath. 🙂
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Of course that's the outcome in any scenario so I guess it's not a problem.
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Congrats, you just set the Zionists on a warpath. 🙂
DevilTheAutopoet 5/26/2023 11:58 PM
My other solution was to just not draw any lines at all, not cater to anyone's bigotry, and basically say the Arabs and Jews who can stand to be around each other get to stay, those who can't should go elsewhere.
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That would set the Zionists on a warpath.
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That would set the Zionists on a warpath.
Yes, but again... that's going to always happen no matter what. Doesn't help that Christians are pro-Zionism because it will fulfill the end times prophesy. (edited)
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Yes, but again... that's going to always happen no matter what. Doesn't help that Christians are pro-Zionism because it will fulfill the end times prophesy. (edited)
DevilTheAutopoet 5/27/2023 12:22 AM
I never understood that shit. Like... who tf reads Revelations and thinks "Ooh, I can't wait for that shit to happen!"
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you are put in charge of the palestine partition project
I advocate pillarisation within one state
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Pillarisation (from the Dutch: verzuiling) is the politico-denominational segregation of a society into groups by religion and associated political beliefs. These societies were (and in some areas, still are) divided into two or more groups known as pillars (Dutch: zuilen). The best-known examples of this have historically occurred in the Nethe...
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Essentially, each group (Arabs, Jews) set up Arab or Jewish schools, housing blocks, hospitals, trade unions, companies, and everything else, which collectively form their “pillar” Both pillars get the same amount of government funding. There can be a third “general” pillar for Arabs and Jews wishing to live together (in which case all three pillars would get equal amounts of state funding) (edited)
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Splitting up the land will anger somebody no matter how well you do it; encouraging the people to split up voluntarily is a better idea (and most of them are going to do exactly that, unless they don’t want to) (edited)
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DevilTheAutopoet 5/27/2023 12:49 AM
Yeah... we tried something like that in the US at some point. There was even a slogan for it. "Separate but equal". As I recall, it didn't actually go very well.
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Yeah... we tried something like that in the US at some point. There was even a slogan for it. "Separate but equal". As I recall, it didn't actually go very well.
Difference being “separate but equal” 1) wasn’t equal and 2) wasn’t voluntary. As implemented in Belgium and the Netherlands, pillarisation went okay. (edited)
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I never understood that shit. Like... who tf reads Revelations and thinks "Ooh, I can't wait for that shit to happen!"
Think about it this way. Every one of the motherfuckers who wants that shit believes they will be swept away before literally all the bad shit happens to live in what amounts to (ironically) a communist utopia with superpowers. Complete with mystic god driven innate ability to replicate literally anything they want on a whim. The language of creation will become theirs. And they believe that all the sinners left behind will suffer for their sins. It's ultimately God's justice and reward they seek. They truly believe that the undeserving of God's grace will be the only ones who have to suffer the consequences of the end of days. (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/27/2023 4:16 AM
The right-wing instigator, Ethan Schmidt, plans disruptions at Target stores around Phoenix and says LGBTQ supporters are 'not safe.'
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BubsyFanboy 5/27/2023 5:36 AM
Poland's lawmakers have approved a contentious law targeting the opposition. Critics say the law approved Friday violates a number of provisions in Poland's constitution and is a clear example of how the right-wing ruling party is using the law to its own ends. The the lower chamber approved the law by a slim majority. It is generally seen as ta...
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Think about it this way. Every one of the motherfuckers who wants that shit believes they will be swept away before literally all the bad shit happens to live in what amounts to (ironically) a communist utopia with superpowers. Complete with mystic god driven innate ability to replicate literally anything they want on a whim. The language of creation will become theirs. And they believe that all the sinners left behind will suffer for their sins. It's ultimately God's justice and reward they seek. They truly believe that the undeserving of God's grace will be the only ones who have to suffer the consequences of the end of days. (edited)
DevilTheAutopoet 5/27/2023 9:19 AM
Right, except the problem is that those who believe that the construction of the Third Temple in Israel would fulfill the prophecy are necessarily adopting a historical premillennialist narrative. But in historical premillennialism, the Rapture doesn't happen until after the Tribulation. So they'd have to experience seven years (at least) of hell on earth first. Would be much easier to die beforehand then. So if you want to bring Revelations, generally that would imply you believe in dispensational premillennialism. But dispensational premillennialism necessarily sees a distinction between Israel and the Church. Which would mean the construction of the Third Temple in Israel would be irrelevant. So it seems like these people are kinda mixing up their eschatological narratives here.
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DevilTheAutopoet
Balkanization ftw.
thats the original plan actually
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the border aread where they meet together ar a single point would have hoasted border crossings
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Congrats, you just set the Zionists on a warpath. 🙂
dont forget the mufti, he was even more radical.(he was literally a hitler stan)
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I advocate pillarisation within one state
so basically like belgium or bosnia?
10:00 AM
thats my ideal
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but i just dont think a confederation is possibl
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/27/2023 10:06 AM
I have an idea: The Holy Roman Empire of Palestine
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zim
so basically like belgium or bosnia?
Mid-century Belgium, yeah
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking
I have an idea: The Holy Roman Empire of Palestine
Death to Israel Death to Palestine Long live the Kingdom of Jerusalem Deus Vult!
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/27/2023 10:07 AM
A confederation of small Jewish and Arab states under one elected official who is chosen by ranked choice voting to help moderate candidates
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Death to Israel Death to Palestine Long live the Kingdom of Jerusalem Deus Vult!
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/27/2023 10:07 AM
Cringe-saders (edited)
10:10 AM
That way, there are many Jewish and Palestinian states with autonomy and their own laws, but on the proviso that anyone of any state can travel and live in any other, similar to the EU
10:10 AM
This will either be the best solution possible or the worst
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking
A confederation of small Jewish and Arab states under one elected official who is chosen by ranked choice voting to help moderate candidates
thats exactly what i imagine
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/27/2023 12:56 PM
lets do a little sherman on Indiana shall we?
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MisterStompy 5/27/2023 5:02 PM
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/27/2023 5:10 PM
utterly fucked
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zim
taking geography into account, while carefully considering demographics and land ownership, you must attempt to make the ideal partition
Everything there becomes one state, just like the Mandate, except it is a Christian state with rights for Druze, Jews and Muslims. Problems solved.
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Everything there becomes one state, just like the Mandate, except it is a Christian state with rights for Druze, Jews and Muslims. Problems solved.
Except of course child abuse, molestation, and rape actually skyrockets. (edited)
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I didn't say Catholic :^)
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I didn't say Catholic :^)
It SO doesn't need to be.
6:01 PM
I'd be hard pressed to find a Christian minister in the world who hasn't promoted, or actively done one or all three of those things.
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Everything there becomes one state, just like the Mandate, except it is a Christian state with rights for Druze, Jews and Muslims. Problems solved.
worst outcome
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MisterStompy 5/27/2023 6:22 PM
THE TALIBAN IS ATTACKING IRAN WITH THE WEAPONS WE LEFT IN AFGHANISTAN
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WE HAVE JUST TURNED THE TALIBAN INTO A PROXY ARMY AGAINST IRAN
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BIDEN PLAYING 4D CHESS
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WE HAVE JUST TURNED THE TALIBAN INTO A PROXY ARMY AGAINST IRAN
If that was the intention in leaving behind all that equipment... that was a master stroke on the part of the US State Department.
6:27 PM
But I don't think they are that brilliant.
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If that was the intention in leaving behind all that equipment... that was a master stroke on the part of the US State Department.
MisterStompy 5/27/2023 6:27 PM
Taliban released this video from today’s attack showing that they reached close to an Iranian base in the border area.
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But I don't think they are that brilliant.
MisterStompy 5/27/2023 6:27 PM
Honestly if Biden rolls with that narrative I'll let him have it though
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Yeah I know it happened... I just don't think we intended for it to happen.
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MisterStompy
Honestly if Biden rolls with that narrative I'll let him have it though
I don't think he's got enough wits left to see the value of doing so. (edited)
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MisterStompy 5/27/2023 6:28 PM
Biden is playing Hearts of Iron 4 right now, actually.
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Biden is playing Hearts of Iron 4 right now, actually.
Sus
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I'd be honestly shocked if he could use a PC.
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Can barely drive his 30 year old vette.
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MisterStompy 5/27/2023 6:30 PM
"Will take Tehran within few hours if Ameer ul Momineen(Taliban Supreme leader)allows." -Abdul Hamid Khorasani (Deputy defence minister of Afghanistan) "We will fight Iran with more enthusiasm than we did USA. If our elders declare Jihad we will take the entire Iran in 24 hours".
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Can barely drive his 30 year old vette.
MisterStompy 5/27/2023 6:31 PM
That vette's like 50+ years old if it's the one I'm thinking of
6:32 PM
Genuinely curious as to why they're doing this though. My best guess is that they just don't know what else to do and really need money/resources.
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They've been begging the American government for money for like two years now.
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Middle East after WWI would very roughly look something like this ideally, with Israel being autonomous province of an Arab state under Husayn ibn Ali al-Hashimi
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MisterStompy 5/27/2023 6:40 PM
wait I just realized this whole thing would technically be a Trump w because Trump was the one who released 5,000 Taliban fighters in 2020
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fuck
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Now I want Biden to take credit for it so Trump will get mad and say "NO JOE YOU DIDN'T UNLEASH THE WRATH OF THE TALIBAN ON THE MIDDLE EAST AGAIN I DID THAT WAS ME JOE"
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Wonder who the tankies are gonna support.
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Wonder who the tankies are gonna support.
Whoever proves to be the most violently repressive of homosexuality and women. Since their normal go-to is off the table. And frankly it's kinda a toss up, with the Taliban pushing for the lead on being repressive authority figures. Like the Iranian state tacitly allows violations of Sharia law in private because it knows it can't really police everyone. Taliban won't limit itself to policing Sharia Law in public. I don't think the Taliban can pull this off however, lack of air support, not fighting on their home turf, fighting a war of aggression, none of that means a very high likelihood of success.
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MisterStompy 5/27/2023 6:56 PM
Yeah Taliban are gonna get fucking stomped
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Interestingly enough, it could distract Iran enough however to allow the democratic and anarchist organizations in country to pull off regime change.
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MisterStompy 5/27/2023 6:57 PM
and maybe groups like the NRF will pull off some funny business
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If I had a grand to bet, I'd be willing to put it on EU and US covert support of those groups in the chaos.
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MisterStompy 5/27/2023 6:57 PM
also I think Russia is gonna be short some shahed drones for a bit
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Iran/Iraq war but with even more war crimes
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Iran/Iraq war but with even more war crimes
If I was CIA, I'd absolutely be planning ops that made Iran believe their citizens were aiding the Taliban... forcing Iran to commit even more vile acts against it's own people and accelerating the inevitable revolution.
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MisterStompy 5/27/2023 7:00 PM
You've... put some thought into this.
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You've... put some thought into this.
Actually no. That's just how my brain works. It's also a large part of why I believe no one should have that kind of authority. If I can come up with really vile shit to accomplish things like that... others can too... and no one should be allowed to put such things into action.
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I actually only found out about the attack by the Taliban like 90 minutes ago after I got off work, it was this conversation that made me think about it at all.
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MisterStompy 5/27/2023 7:04 PM
ah okay
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It's a pretty minor skirmish
7:04 PM
3 dead and they're probably negotiating
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Ken Paxton has been impeached by Texas state house
7:22 PM
Now it's too the senate
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Hopefully it passes the senate too.
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Middle East after WWI would very roughly look something like this ideally, with Israel being autonomous province of an Arab state under Husayn ibn Ali al-Hashimi
damn
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that green state shouldnt exist at all (edited)
10:13 PM
it would fall apart immediatly
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Greek?
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Red is Turkish
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Orange is Armenian but it has Greek and Georgian areas, probably Kurdish ones too
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It's not good, it needs to be fixed
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Red is Turkish
i ment green
10:23 PM
The Arab state
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the green state squishes tons of ethnicitied together
10:24 PM
arab speaker =|= arab (edited)
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Tons of Arab tribes, with some Armenians and Assyrians and such
10:24 PM
but it's primarily tribes not ethnicities
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true arabs would be bedouin if not form arabia
10:24 PM
the rest are arabized peoples
10:24 PM
though historically ruled by arab clans
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They still saw themselves as divided into artificially-created nations by Western powers
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those people considering themselves arabs firzt and formost is a product of pan arabism. originally people ascociated with their regions primarily, not their language
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The Peninsula could easily be unified
10:26 PM
Perhaps Peninsula and Levant as two separate states
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that could be
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as long as its secular
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Perhaps Peninsula and Levant as two separate states
levant could be a stare
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if it was highly tolorent
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very diverse region
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syrians palestinians alawites druze syriacs maronites jews and kurds
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thats just a few of the ethnicities
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the mesopotamian state would be more homogenous
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more easily surviving even in a climate of intolorence
10:28 PM
is that textwall digestable?
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It's not a text wall
10:30 PM
looks like a wall on my end
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but yes, although Syrians and Palestinians are not that different afaik
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must be the phone scree and the font
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but yes, although Syrians and Palestinians are not that different afaik
yes, they are north and south syrians
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all semetic muslim ethncities share alot in common due to arabization in the umayyad and abbasid eras
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but dont underestimate the differences
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the differences will shine especially bright when clan rule is ended
10:32 PM
the mesopotamian state would primarily need to overcome the sunni shia divide
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/27/2023 10:47 PM
As House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) continues to negotiate a deal to avoid a debt crisis, members of the far-right Freedom Caucus are growing furious with him over broken promises he made to them.According to MSNBC political analysts Steve Benen, with a slim GOP majority in the House, McCarthy is...
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Another video from a VERY solid comrade of mine, that should explain pretty well why people are VERY angry with the USA... not just the GOP, or Dems, but the government of the nation, since it's very start. Please take the time to watch this, all of the information presented is fact based, and Pierce does a very good job of presenting it without rhetoric. https://youtu.be/mhzaX7CEIA4
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MisterStompy 5/28/2023 11:38 AM
We did it guys, we got control of the Taliban https://twitter.com/ManiacMagic1/status/1662736405036949510
Russian Z now claims that the Taliban's Special Jihad Operation is direct by the USA to hurt Iran's support in other Russian wars.
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Yeah, that's about the size of it.
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DevilTheAutopoet 5/28/2023 1:51 PM
Yeah... that sounds about right.
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BubsyFanboy 5/29/2023 7:48 AM
🇵🇱⚖️More from me on this tomorrow, but a quick thread: President Duda just signed into the law the bill on establishing a parliamentary committee to examine Russian influence in Poland in the years 2007-2022. It's bad news. 1/
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/29/2023 9:51 AM
Hot take: Advertising should be banned from Memorial Day parades; it’s tasteless, disrespectful, and frankly vile to use a holiday to remember the dead to sell products and advertise your organizations
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Hot take: Advertising should be banned from Memorial Day parades; it’s tasteless, disrespectful, and frankly vile to use a holiday to remember the dead to sell products and advertise your organizations
AvoidOblivion 5/29/2023 10:02 AM
This is America, advertising is put anywhere it can be.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking
Hot take: Advertising should be banned from Memorial Day parades; it’s tasteless, disrespectful, and frankly vile to use a holiday to remember the dead to sell products and advertise your organizations
AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/29/2023 12:20 PM
that should not be a hot take
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Hot take: Advertising should be banned from Memorial Day parades; it’s tasteless, disrespectful, and frankly vile to use a holiday to remember the dead to sell products and advertise your organizations
You misspelled propaganda
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/29/2023 12:26 PM
do you guys ban the sell of Alcohol during days of mourning?
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/29/2023 12:26 PM
Ngl, I think we should
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/29/2023 12:26 PM
Yeah, i think thats a good idea
12:27 PM
we do that with days like these
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As someone who probably only avoided suicide on this holiday specifically because he was drunk as fuck. Fuck that.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/29/2023 12:33 PM
its more to avoid people from partying during a day of mourning yknow
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doesn't really make sense
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I get that, but respect the only medicine some of us Vets who attended those funerals of people who had our backs and we let die have.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/29/2023 1:10 PM
yeah
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i can see that
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MisterStompy 5/29/2023 5:14 PM
NATO has announced that at least 25 Soldiers from the NATO Peacekeeping Mission in Kosovo (KFOR) have been Injured during “Violent Clashes” with Ethnic-Serbians in the City of Zvečan in Northern Kosovo today; the Injuries reportedly occurred after Explosive and Incendiary Devices…
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Footage from Northern Kosovo earlier today which shows what began as a Peaceful Protest against the Election of an Albanian Mayor in the City of Zvečan, evolving into a Massive Riot and Violent Clashes between Ethnic-Serbs and Kosovo Federal Police alongside NATO Peacekeeping…
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The Italian Foreign Minister has stated that out of the 25 NATO Peacekeepers who were Injured in Northern Kosovo earlier today 11 are with the Italian Army while at least 3 were Seriously Injured.
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5:16 PM
We're about to see some shit, people
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The President of Serbia, Aleksandar Vučić stated during an Address to the Nation earlier tonight that he has ordered the Serbian Armed Forces be Deployed to the Border with Northern Kosovo once again and that he is planning to meet with Diplomats from the Quinet (U.S, U.K,…
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5:21 PM
They do NOT wanna be fucking around while Biden is in office.
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MisterStompy 5/29/2023 7:04 PM
We might have to open a new channel for the second Kosovo war https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1663292794562048001
A Convoy of at least 4 Pandur I APCs being Operated by NATO Peacekeeping Forces were spotted on the move tonight in the City of Mitrovica in Northern Kosovo.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/29/2023 9:04 PM
Yugoslav Wars 2: Ethnic Cleansing Boogaloo? (edited)
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Yugoslav Wars 2: Ethnic Cleansing Boogaloo? (edited)
I don't think there ever was any doubt it would happen eventually... I mean Serbia will always be what it always has been.
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The generation might have changed of the leaders there, but the families in control are the same ones that got on their knees to suck Hilter's dick.
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A furry fandom con in Florida just announced it would ban minors based on the governor’s ridiculous laws
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the Furries are coming after DeSatan
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the Furries are coming after DeSatan
That's gonna cause a rift among Furries when the Nazi Furries go against the grain on it.
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Banning minors from furry cons is a step in the right direction
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It will hinder the growth of furry-ism among the younger generations
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MisterStompy 5/30/2023 10:51 AM
NATO has ordered the Deployment of Rapid-Response Units to Kosovo after over 30 NATO Peacekeepers were Injured yesterday some Severely during the ongoing Civil Unrest in the North of the Country near the Border with Serbia; while other Units have been placed on Standby in case…
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USAF B-1B above #Sarajevo.
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Operation Merciful Angel Part 2: Srebrenica's Vengeance
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Seeing as those things can fly high enough to look like a speck of black... this one is down low for a specific reason... and that reason is. "Motherfucker we haven't forgotten what you did to those women and children in the 90s... you should remember this aircraft."
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Seeing as those things can fly high enough to look like a speck of black... this one is down low for a specific reason... and that reason is. "Motherfucker we haven't forgotten what you did to those women and children in the 90s... you should remember this aircraft."
MisterStompy 5/30/2023 11:32 AM
Especially with Belgrade Biden in office rn
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Now he won't just be suggesting anymore.
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That's gonna cause a rift among Furries when the Nazi Furries go against the grain on it.
I have a feeling this is also a anti-lgbta move and the majority are approaching it as such. Still A suicidal move considering how many furries in IT there are.
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I have a feeling this is also a anti-lgbta move and the majority are approaching it as such. Still A suicidal move considering how many furries in IT there are.
MisterStompy 5/30/2023 11:34 AM
Don't forget the furries in the defense industry
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Banning minors from furry cons is a step in the right direction
You realize they're attacking furries because Furry folk are pro lgbta and are a safe heaven for those folk? Right?
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Don't forget the furries in the defense industry
Ah yes. There furs in the military. Keep forgetting those
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Now he won't just be suggesting anymore.
Yeah I don't think he'd stop with infrastructure damage this time. And no it wouldn't be suggestions. "Joint Chiefs, draw up a plan to attack Serbia, give me 4 options with total annihilation of their infrastructure ranging from least civilian casualties to I don't give a fuck."
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Yeah I don't think he'd stop with infrastructure damage this time. And no it wouldn't be suggestions. "Joint Chiefs, draw up a plan to attack Serbia, give me 4 options with total annihilation of their infrastructure ranging from least civilian casualties to I don't give a fuck."
MisterStompy 5/30/2023 11:37 AM
Joe Biden and John Bolton merging into a single entity then transforming into a B-1B that blasts Slayer's "Payback"
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Partially. There's nothing specific about furries in the law, which is part of the problem: the furries don't know if their convention will be considered an "adult performance" or not, so they decided to avoid the problem altogether by banning minors from it
While SB 1438 does not specifically target minors dressing as furries, it prohibits children from attending adult performances, which it defines as “a presentation that depicts or simulates nudity, sexual conduct, or specific sexual activities.” And, like drag, there are pervasive misconceptions that this mode of expression is inherently sexual.
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Meanwhile Croatia and Montenegro are going... "And we'll totally let your task forces refuel in our ports." then aside to one another "All that American sailor deployment money will be ours!!!"
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MisterStompy 5/30/2023 11:39 AM
I have a Bosnian friend that's pissed that he joined the Navy and not the Army or Mariners rn lol
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"I WANT MY BOOTS ON THE FUCKING GROUND"
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Joe Biden and John Bolton merging into a single entity then transforming into a B-1B that blasts Slayer's "Payback"
I don't think that would improve the combined being's chances to avoid sliding further into dementia... but yes.
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MisterStompy 5/30/2023 11:39 AM
"ĆU DA UBIJEM ČETNIKE"
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I have a Bosnian friend that's pissed that he joined the Navy and not the Army or Mariners rn lol
This is how I know your friend hasn't seen combat. If he really wants to, tell him to get into small craft.
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This is how I know your friend hasn't seen combat. If he really wants to, tell him to get into small craft.
MisterStompy 5/30/2023 11:40 AM
He kind of did. One time some dumbass kids snuck onto his destroyer and they went on high alert thinking it was insurgents
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Every Navy has a small craft division of some kind. He'll get to plug the holes in a friend with fingers of one hand and try to drive the boat with the other soon enough.
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MisterStompy 5/30/2023 11:41 AM
idk Bosnians are just natural born guerillas, they can survive for months with nothing but plaster to eat and sheer hatred (edited)
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Partially. There's nothing specific about furries in the law, which is part of the problem: the furries don't know if their convention will be considered an "adult performance" or not, so they decided to avoid the problem altogether by banning minors from it
While SB 1438 does not specifically target minors dressing as furries, it prohibits children from attending adult performances, which it defines as “a presentation that depicts or simulates nudity, sexual conduct, or specific sexual activities.” And, like drag, there are pervasive misconceptions that this mode of expression is inherently sexual.
The bigger problem with that, is a con could hypothetical be mostly family friendly but if they have one panel that's potentially lewd, they could be shut down
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idk Bosnians are just natural born guerillas, they can survive for months with nothing but plaster to eat and sheer hatred (edited)
They did fight like motherfuckers against the Nazi's as partisans along side Croats.
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Even if it wasn't selective enforcement, every con organizer much REALLY hate Florida rn
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The bigger problem with that, is a con could hypothetical be mostly family friendly but if they have one panel that's potentially lewd, they could be shut down
Yes
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The bigger problem with that, is a con could hypothetical be mostly family friendly but if they have one panel that's potentially lewd, they could be shut down
As someone who's taught at BDSM conventions, as a teacher I'd suggest the con only verbally promote my class and suggest one of them rents a suite at the hotel under their name and not the Con, and hold any of those classes in that suite.
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That way legally it can be kept separate from the convention... but still take place.
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True, and likely is what will happen til DeSatan gets yeeted out
11:46 AM
Because the man is STILL on the shitlist for Disney
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If The Mouse Mafia doesn't put a hit on him.
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They're playing it legal
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For now
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I suspect Disney is only waiting to see if he gets ousted in the next election. After that if he doesn't get voted out his plane will crash while he's flying to vacation in Bermuda. (edited)
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Most likely
11:49 AM
Although realistically, Disney will give funds to his opponents for his reelection
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And if that don't work, THEN the "accidents"
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Aces high
Although realistically, Disney will give funds to his opponents for his reelection
Oh sure. Probably more money than it would cost to make both engines fail on the charter jet.
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Due to pilot error.
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Eh, Your forgetting the lawsuit DeSatan's wife would likely use
11:50 AM
So failed engine's might be MORE expensive lowkey
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Eh, Your forgetting the lawsuit DeSatan's wife would likely use
She'd be on the flight... unless his underage mistress is.
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That said, Disney IS investigating all legal options first
11:52 AM
No Need for blood if you can avoid it
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No Need for blood if you can avoid it
You aren't thinking like a psychopathic corporate executive. Even if they don't have a comorbid paraphilia which makes them choose killing first... they don't think of it as any more distasteful an act than buying a company and selling all it's assets while laying off thousands of people who's kids will starve to death.
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MisterStompy 5/30/2023 12:06 PM
We have a problem. Chick-Fil-A just hired a VP of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion. This is bad. Very bad. I don’t want to have to boycott. Are we going to have to boycott?
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AvoidOblivion 5/30/2023 12:06 PM
Chick-Fil-A is playing both sides.
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MisterStompy 5/30/2023 12:06 PM
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Chick-Fil-A is playing both sides.
MisterStompy 5/30/2023 12:07 PM
Chik Fil A setting up a deathmatch between leather daddies and proud boys with half off chicken sandwiches
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AvoidOblivion 5/30/2023 12:08 PM
Chick-Fil-A has always been overrated, mediocre, white-Suburban-mom fast food. I have refused to support them since I learned of their political donations, and I urge everyone who cares about their rights to do the same.
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I got money on the leather daddies
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Chick-Fil-A has always been overrated, mediocre, white-Suburban-mom fast food. I have refused to support them since I learned of their political donations, and I urge everyone who cares about their rights to do the same.
bold of you to assume I ever ate there
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Aces high
I got money on the leather daddies
AvoidOblivion 5/30/2023 12:09 PM
Same here. They are actually tough, not fake-tough like the Proud Boys.
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But also, there ARE better chicken sandwiches
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AvoidOblivion 5/30/2023 12:09 PM
There absolutely are.
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AvoidOblivion
Chick-Fil-A has always been overrated, mediocre, white-Suburban-mom fast food. I have refused to support them since I learned of their political donations, and I urge everyone who cares about their rights to do the same.
MisterStompy 5/30/2023 12:09 PM
There's literally no point when McDonalds exists, just get a McChicken for a dollar
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They also scam you on the size of their nuggets
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MisterStompy
There's literally no point when McDonalds exists, just get a McChicken for a dollar
AvoidOblivion 5/30/2023 12:10 PM
Tastes just as good, much less money being spent.
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MisterStompy 5/30/2023 12:10 PM
Actually no what you do is get a McChicken and a McDouble and take the chicken and lettuce off of your McChicken and put it on the McDouble
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I only enjoy the finest of dining
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AvoidOblivion
Tastes just as good, much less money being spent.
MisterStompy 5/30/2023 12:11 PM
Also McDonalds just did a lesbian commercial
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And they speak Tagalog in it
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AvoidOblivion 5/30/2023 12:11 PM
Ford did a pride commercial a few weeks ago. It was a good one.
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MisterStompy 5/30/2023 12:12 PM
OH MY GOD THERE IT IS AGAIN
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MCdonalds is like Disney Still fucking corpos But ones who realized "hey, shouldn't our product also be catering to ALL clients, regardless of gender and race?" Aka they realize being tolerant is at least economical profitable
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MisterStompy 5/30/2023 12:12 PM
there's a slur in here btw
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Oh boy
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MisterStompy 5/30/2023 12:12 PM
WHAT IS WITH THESE FUCKING PEOPLE
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They don't want to confront their kinks and so blame the people they are attracted too instead of themselves?
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Also self entitlement
12:13 PM
Mostly that
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MisterStompy 5/30/2023 12:13 PM
Well it's because they see all LGBT people entirely through the lens of pornography that they watch
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AvoidOblivion 5/30/2023 12:13 PM
“Every accusation is a confession.”
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MisterStompy 5/30/2023 12:14 PM
Like when I think of trans people I think of like you know Chelsea Manning or those chicks who did the Matrix, I don't think of... you know... that.
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Well it's because they see all LGBT people entirely through the lens of pornography that they watch
AvoidOblivion 5/30/2023 12:14 PM
Red states do consume large amounts of transgender porn.
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MisterStompy 5/30/2023 12:15 PM
Like when I see a rainbow I'm like "oh good the gays can get married God Bless America" my first thought isn't fucking Steve Rambo
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Yup
12:18 PM
I won't lie tho, WALMART of all fucking places has a t-shirt for Pride that I want to get because surprisingly goes hard? But like fuck they don't sell it on the ones I have near me
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It's a t shirt that says Pride in big rainbow font, but underneath it says "or Die" in thick black letters, abet not as big as the Pride
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MisterStompy 5/30/2023 12:23 PM
Apparently both WalMart and North Face are doubling down on their support of pride stuff because of how everyone shat on Target
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but I also am like: I dislike Walmart for being anti-uniom bastards so extremely conflicted noises from me
12:23 PM
Walmart too, wants to get ride of the fascist assholes
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Begone Away with thee You lower their worth
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MisterStompy 5/30/2023 12:23 PM
Also I dare one of these douchebags to go into Disneyland and try to destroy some pride display stuff lmao it's gonna be amazing watching Goofy and Donald Duck beat the shit out of them
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Walmart too, wants to get ride of the fascist assholes
MisterStompy 5/30/2023 12:24 PM
Fascists hate both communism and capitalism.
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Screw the Mascots, the cashier will likely lay down the whoopass, if the ninja security doesn't first
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MisterStompy 5/30/2023 12:25 PM
Have you seen that video of the Popeyes employees swarming that lady like a hive of wasps after she throws a drink at them or something?
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Nope
12:28 PM
Also; as someone who often looks into high quality travels shit, North face knows that boycott will do shit given they can't even afford their stuff
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MisterStompy 5/30/2023 12:29 PM
LMAOOO the whole Popeyes staff joined in to fight her 😭😭😭
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Sometimes worker solidarity isn't asking for more pay, or more dignity at work. Sometimes it's swarming a Karen like a hive of homicidal bees (edited)
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I got money on the leather daddies
This, speaking as a Leather Daddy, is a safe bet. "Rough Body Play" is really just a lot of practice beating someone with your fists and feet, you get VERY good at controlling your aim. I don't know another group of people that spends as much time practicing punching actual squirming human beings.
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Martial artists?
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Professional boxers
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Masseuse?(sp?)
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The last one is supposed to be the guys who do massages
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Aces high
Martial artists?
Naw, spend most of their time practicing on bags or cardio... unless it's right before a fight and they get their sparring partner.
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Masseuse?(sp?)
Masseur
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Thank you
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But like we aim not for the "chest" but rather the "right/left pectoral" when we practice.
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So rather than just aiming at a squirming target with an strike area of like 2sqft... we aim for an area of about 8 sq inches.
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And then most boys like to be thrown around a lot... and most like to fight back. I'd just enter a fight with a PB as a fight with someone who's explicitly consented to and desires to die by rough body play without any hard limits. There's a not small part of me that would find it really fun trying to make their dream come true.
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there's a slur in here btw
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/30/2023 1:45 PM
Funny considering the founder/CEOs views on LGBTQ folk.
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Wanna bet there's Corpo in fighting?
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And Ken Paxton admits to intentionally losing 2.5 million mail in ballots...which means it's possible that the entire Texas election in 2020 is illegit and Texas likely would have gone to Biden and Beto
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And we know this specifically because Paxton ADMITTED IT
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Every accusation is a f-ing confession
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MisterStompy 5/30/2023 3:13 PM
A Convoy of NATO Peacekeeping Vehicles consisting of at least 8 Austrian Pandur l APCs were spotted moving into the Southern District in the City of Mitrovica which is roughly 4 Miles from the Protests/Civil Unrest that is expected soon in Zvečan.
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Oh boy
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MisterStompy 5/30/2023 5:40 PM
Fox News host Jesse Watters speculates that the Pentagon has pictures of Ron DeSantis committing war crimes: "I'm sure the Pentagon probably has a picture of him stacking up Iraqi bodies in a Baghdad prison cell."
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I mean I wouldn't put it past him but I doubt he did this. As far as I know the only thing we're pretty sure he did do is oversee the torture of gitmo inmates.
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Keep in mind this is Jesse Watters trying to make DeSantis sound like a badass. Look, not that personally partaking in the murder of POW's is "badass" or anything, but Meatball Ron would shit his pants the minute he heard gunfire regardless of who was on the recieving end of it. He doesn't have tha capability of shooting anyone, regardless of their status as a legal combatant.
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MisterStompy 5/30/2023 6:37 PM
Remember that time that dude sent everyone in Hawaii a text saying they were gonna get nuked? https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1663669087703113729
The South Korean Interior Ministry has announced that the “Wartime Alert” for the Capital City of Seoul stating that Residents should prepare to Evacuate was an Error and was Accidentally Broadcasted.
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Also in other news, Kim Jong Un cannot into space 😔 https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1663669582907809792
The Japanese Coast Guard has stated that the Long-Range Ballistic Missile which was reportedly carrying a “Space Launch Vehicle” containing a Spy Satellite has already crashed into the Ocean.
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These municipalities should've remained part of Serbia to begin with, but the Serbs there are dumb as shit. Boycott an election then cry that an Albanian won, then riot and cry again when the riot is put down. And then the US sanctioned Kosovo lmao
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Remember that time that dude sent everyone in Hawaii a text saying they were gonna get nuked? https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1663669087703113729
Yee I remember that
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These municipalities should've remained part of Serbia to begin with, but the Serbs there are dumb as shit. Boycott an election then cry that an Albanian won, then riot and cry again when the riot is put down. And then the US sanctioned Kosovo lmao
MisterStompy 5/30/2023 6:39 PM
We should just make all of Serbia Kosovo if they don't want to take part in elections then
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Anyway I think in the long run, North Korea probably wouldn't come out on top if it crossed the DMZ.
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Yikes. That 1990s famine must've stunted his growth
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I forget what it was called, but they have an official term for it because the Party acknowledges it. "Two years of struggle" or something
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MisterStompy 5/30/2023 6:42 PM
Yeah there's really bad malnutrition in North Korea to the point where they've regressed to the height of medieval European peasents.
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Which I mean, they basically are so
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Arduous March / March of Suffering of 1994-98
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I ain't a 6ft tall giant of a soldier but I have good chance to snapping that poor NK soldier in two accidentally
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Anyway I think in the long run, North Korea probably wouldn't come out on top if it crossed the DMZ.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/30/2023 6:43 PM
.....I'm probably taller than that guy
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Famines can long term fuck you up
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MisterStompy 5/30/2023 6:43 PM
As much as I dislike communism, calling North Korea a "communist" country isn't accurate. It's a nightmarish, misshapen jelly like thing composed of fascism and monarchy.
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Famines can long term fuck you up
AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/30/2023 6:43 PM
you can ask post-rome europe
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And post wwii china
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/30/2023 6:44 PM
many of china's historic periods tbf
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And Ethiopia in the 90s, although they bounced back pretty alright
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MisterStompy 5/30/2023 6:45 PM
And Ukraine in the 20's
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/30/2023 6:46 PM
and so on and so forth
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the list just goes on and on
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and on
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and on
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and on
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and on
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MisterStompy 5/30/2023 6:46 PM
WE DIDN'T START THE FIRE
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Russia in the 20s too, abet more so one specific part of Russia that was their breadbasket
6:46 PM
Food oasis are important, mkay?
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MisterStompy
WE DIDN'T START THE FIRE
AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/30/2023 6:47 PM
IT WAS ALWAYS BURNING SINCE THE WORLD'S BEEN TURNIN
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The famine began in the same year that the Eternal President of the DPRK, Great Leader Comrade Kim Il-Sung, had passed away. The Earth must have been mourning for him.
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That is the only plausible explanation
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/30/2023 6:48 PM
lmao
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The famine began in the same year that the Eternal President of the DPRK, Great Leader Comrade Kim Il-Sung, had passed away. The Earth must have been mourning for him.
MisterStompy 5/30/2023 6:49 PM
It has nothing to do with them running out of the food that the Soviets were giving them.
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USSR was 1919-21 and 1930-33 mainly, and I think one more in the '40s
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MisterStompy
It has nothing to do with them running out of the food that the Soviets were giving them.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/30/2023 6:49 PM
definately :)
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USSR was 1919-21 and 1930-33 mainly, and I think one more in the '40s
MisterStompy 5/30/2023 6:49 PM
The US helped stop the one in the 40's iirc, we gave them a bunch more spam right after ww2.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/30/2023 6:49 PM
spam my beloved
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And once again, spam saves people's ass
6:50 PM
Shit is surprisingly versatile
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MisterStompy 5/30/2023 6:50 PM
People will shit on the US for voting against the UN mandate making food a human right but we give more food to the World Food Project than any other country by like a MASSIVE margin.
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We also tend to overgrow
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Like a LOT
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MisterStompy 5/30/2023 6:50 PM
Still shouldn't have voted against it though
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If the resolution passed, what would've happened anyways? C'mon.
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Be realistic
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UN resolution ends world hunger
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There's a reason world wide people are pissed at DeSantis over the Florida immigration status thing
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MisterStompy 5/30/2023 6:51 PM
"Americans are cultural imperialists" nah bro we're just feeding you.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/30/2023 6:51 PM
hey mickie d's is pretty good
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MisterStompy 5/30/2023 6:51 PM
I remember some dude in St Petersburg handcuffed himself to McDonalds when he found out it was closing down after the invasion
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I mean it also opens the door of concerns if one party has control over who gets food...yeah I can see issues with it
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/30/2023 6:52 PM
lmfao that would be me
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like hell am i letting that go
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no way in hell are they taking away my mcchicken with ice tea
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I remember some dude in St Petersburg handcuffed himself to McDonalds when he found out it was closing down after the invasion
That is a man with a severe love affair with McDoubles
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It was the communists' foolhardy attempt to outpizza the hut that became their undoing.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/30/2023 6:53 PM
damn right
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I remember when pizza hut was still good
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i was very young though
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Double or nothing or death
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I'm bias towards local chains tbh
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/30/2023 6:56 PM
yeah, traditional pizza is best
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MisterStompy
WE DIDN'T START THE FIRE
I love Billy Joel... but that song was nothing but boomers excusing themselves from responsibility. Which is the most boomer thing ever.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/30/2023 8:15 PM
lol
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hey mickie d's is pretty good
I swear some Mac sauce on a McGangbang (without the extra bread in the middle) is one of the best damn things from there.
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I’ve made many a midnight run for those. Lol
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I’ve made many a midnight run for those. Lol
Propaganda works.
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Sorry they call it marketing now... my bad.
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How is it buying into propaganda If I’m hungry and they just happen to be open at literally midnight? Sometimes I just don’t feel like cooking my own food and am in the mood for some garbage. 🤷‍♂️
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How is it buying into propaganda If I’m hungry and they just happen to be open at literally midnight? Sometimes I just don’t feel like cooking my own food and am in the mood for some garbage. 🤷‍♂️
Literally all of those things have been a part of their marketing campaign for decades. How is it not buying into propaganda?
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Because it’s the only burger place that’s near my house that’s open at midnight?
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I mean except they don't outright say it's garbage food.
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Neon
Because it’s the only burger place that’s near my house that’s open at midnight?
I mean that's a shame, and I get what you are saying... But literally marketing/propaganda is meant to make you think a certain thing in certain circumstances... Like you could take an hour out of your week to prep some patties however you like and toss them in the freezer so when you get a craving at midnight you can fire up a skillet and cook yourself a burger in less time than it would take to motor over to McDs.
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But we ALL don't think like that... we hop in the car and drive to McDs.
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Effective propaganda.
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I get where you’re coming from, people are saturated in marketing, no matter where they go. But also, I could just like things.
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And gods help you if there are a lot of bars around that McDs and you show up between 1:30 and 2:30.
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I think there’s like maybe two bars? But I’ve never been to either one, also, I keep my home bar stocked well enough.
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I get where you’re coming from, people are saturated in marketing, no matter where they go. But also, I could just like things.
I can't imagine liking McDs more than the burger you actually once tasted and went "this is the best burger ever"... For me, it's a burger with Lipton Onion Soup mix and about a tablespoon per lb of worchestershire sauce, with teryaki drizzle on the bun. Takes less than an hour to make up 6 patties from 2lbs of ground beef, and ~10 minutes to cook from lighting the stove. (edited)
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You’re right I likely could make something I would also enjoy. But also, sometimes I don’t want to make anything, and I don’t mind the taking the like two minute trip down the road. You raise good points, but for me it’s not that complicated, I just like different things. (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/30/2023 8:50 PM
Question, who the hell thought liking grape soda would be a good stereotype for black people, Grape soda is so fucking good
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kist grape flavour my beloved
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Honestly, food stereotypes are weird. I’s almost always just a food that everyone likes anyway.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/30/2023 8:51 PM
i may not like watermelons, but i love a well cooked chicken piece with a side of grape soda
8:51 PM
coca cola is overrated honestly
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AIF Cuirassier regiment
Question, who the hell thought liking grape soda would be a good stereotype for black people, Grape soda is so fucking good
If you think that's good, find Grape Nehi.
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Which I mean, they basically are so
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/30/2023 8:57 PM
Not even; medieval Peasents were on average 5’7” or 5’8”, depending on where and when, while the average North Korean Man is 5’5”
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Pre Little Ice Age, the average height was slightly taller, with heights dropping due to the colder weather leading to more food shortages and a substant decline in height
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/30/2023 8:58 PM
its what's cheapest and most popular so eh
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its what's cheapest and most popular so eh
I get that... and it's good... But Grape Nehi is the pinnacle of grape soda. Technically "NEHI Grape". "NEHI Orange" is good too, but not substantially better than other alternatives. (edited)
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/30/2023 8:59 PM
Artificial grape is proof that Artificially flavored foods are a gift from god
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All Hail the Divine Chemical Grape!
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking
All Hail the Divine Chemical Grape!
If it's the same flavonoid chemical... is it artificial? Is the nature of "grape" it's flavor, or it's other physical properties?
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/30/2023 9:03 PM
Idk and i don’t care; it slaps
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Good answer.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment
Question, who the hell thought liking grape soda would be a good stereotype for black people, Grape soda is so fucking good
Back to the original question... I'm pretty sure it's black families who decide these things, and they got propagated by the best comedian who ever lived... Richard Pryor. When I showed up to my buddies mothers house and she asked if I wanted some grape soda, fried chicken, and watermellon to refresh myself after riding a motorcycle 200 miles... and I replied... "Maam, you don't have enough of those three things for me to get tired of any one of them." She declared me the whitest black man she'd ever met.
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Not even; medieval Peasents were on average 5’7” or 5’8”, depending on where and when, while the average North Korean Man is 5’5”
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/30/2023 9:10 PM
To elaborate on this, the Average Medieval English circa 1200, was around 172cm, or 5’7”, the average Frenchman was about 174cm (5’8”), Scandinavians, Germans, and Poles were about the same, and Italians, Iberians, and Balkaners were about 173cm. Following the Beginning of the Little Ice Age, heights dropped to about 171-173cm, which remained the case until around the early to mid 1600s, when heights dropped as low as the 169cm, owing to that being the peak of climatic cooling and famine caused by the 30 Years War, and afterwards, heights would slowly rise again until today
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In addition, skeletal examination indicates that the average farmer was relatively sturdy, with heavy bone ware, but few signs of arthritis, and most of the ware head able to heal, and many of the bones are very sturdy, with especially high calcium levels, likely owed to a diet high in dairy products
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On top of this, more recent examination shows the average peasent had would have likely been quite strong, thanks to the routine of heavy labor
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So in other words, a medieval Peasent could probably kick a North Korean Soldier’s ass
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking
So in other words, a medieval Peasent could probably kick a North Korean Soldier’s ass
Well they certainly could form a line in a pike formation better.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/30/2023 9:19 PM
True
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But I’m talking Mono on Mono
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And Unarmed So the medieval Peasent’s superior weapons technology is irrelevant (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/30/2023 9:19 PM
i think a better comparison would be post roman collapse european peasant
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seriously you gotta see the data of how much people and cattle shrinked
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its insane
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Ehhh Peasents didn't get much martial training... they could brawl with the best of them, but I'm willing to bet whatever martial art NK armed forces is teaching them is probably based on low center of gravity and speed rather than strength.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/30/2023 9:21 PM
as long as its not steven seagal's bullshido, i think it can work
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i think a better comparison would be post roman collapse european peasant
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/30/2023 9:21 PM
Depending on where and when; the Irish, Scandinavians, Baltic, and Eastern Europeans were largely unaffected, but areas close to or part of the Roman Empire were hit bad
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/30/2023 9:21 PM
basically
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that
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Could a Medieval peasent lift an NK soldier over their heads? Yeah sure... but could they lay hands on them to do so in the first place? I'm not gonna take that bet.
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Ehhh Peasents didn't get much martial training... they could brawl with the best of them, but I'm willing to bet whatever martial art NK armed forces is teaching them is probably based on low center of gravity and speed rather than strength.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/30/2023 9:22 PM
True, but we’re talking average vs average, not whatever they consider special forces
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/30/2023 9:22 PM
the NK army is bad sure, but their soldiers at least can beat up eachother? i guess??
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking
True, but we’re talking average vs average, not whatever they consider special forces
I mean NK has their foot soldiers drilling kata constantly at least for propaganda photos... and they are all wiry as fuck so I suspect it's not just for the photos/videos.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/30/2023 9:23 PM
probably
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who knows with how they are fed
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an army marches on its stomach afteral
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They do have the advantage of knowing the necessity of being prepared for war at any moment.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/30/2023 9:24 PM
that too
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in a one to one with South korea I feel that they would be matched thanks to their rather....large conscription
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that is just my prediction
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prolly bad
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I'll put it this way. I'm a big guy, with a whole lot of brawling experience from a very young age supplemented by martial arts training, and I've seen combat. I still wouldn't want to take on an average NK solider hand to hand. (edited)
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Even if I won, I wouldn't come out without a whole host of more hurts.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/30/2023 9:25 PM
could be real, could be all smoke and mirrors, that just comes with it being the hermit kingdom
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very important emphasis on both hermit and kingdom
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that describes them really well
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that describes them really well
Yeah, I also wouldn't want to get into a tavern fight with a peasant in the medieval period.
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Though that might end more amicably.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/30/2023 9:27 PM
i wouldn't wanna get in a fight with my noodle arms
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i do have to improve that
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i do have to improve that
Take a manual labor job. Hell go push laundry carts for a hospital... those things weigh 900lbs and often have fucked up castors.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/30/2023 9:29 PM
alr, I'll see what i can do after i graduate from school
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I dropped 30lbs of fat and seriously increased my lean muscle mass in two months working as a laundry driver for a commercial linen service.
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And it was surprisingly rewarding, if my knees weren't so bad already I'd probably still be doing it.
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Like after my last hospital delivery for a night I'd have moved 25-29 linen carts out... and 25-29 linen carts in... moving each cart an average of about 200 feet through the hospitals. I felt good except for the knee pain.
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And if you have good knees it's actually pretty low impact.
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I love Billy Joel... but that song was nothing but boomers excusing themselves from responsibility. Which is the most boomer thing ever.
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AvoidOblivion 5/31/2023 9:07 AM
Kosovo’s Prime Minister Albin Kurti told CNN on Tuesday that he would not surrender the country to what he described as a Serbian “fascist militia,” following violent protests in its north over the installation of ethnically Albanian mayors in a disputed election.
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does anyone want to hear mu little gripe about a term?
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its the term "people of colour" people use it to refer to nonwhites
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but its an exclusionary term
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there are minorities who face racism and are light skinned
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jews
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middle eastern and north african people
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and lighter hispanic people
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none of those groups are considered white, all of them face racism
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but the word "people of colour" automatically excludes them. (edited)
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does anyone agree? (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/31/2023 11:24 AM
I have to agree
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does anyone want to hear mu little gripe about a term?
AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/31/2023 11:25 AM
I have the same thing with the word Jew honestly, I preffer to use Jewish, it feels less derrogatoty but thats just my thing
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lets face it, saying 'That jew' feels more dirty than saying 'That jewish guy'
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I have the same thing with the word Jew honestly, I preffer to use Jewish, it feels less derrogatoty but thats just my thing
technically we are yehudans
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or yisraelites
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because those terms are the true transliterations
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jew is a derivitive of yid
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which is short for yiddish
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which is the yiddish equilvilent to yehudan
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or "judean" as the idiots call it
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I have to agree
yeah, whiteness in america is more then colour
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technically we are yehudans
My wife prefers "Jew...ish". (edited)
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My wife prefers "Jew...ish". (edited)
is she george santos?
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is she george santos?
Are you intentionally insulting my wife?
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Are you intentionally insulting my wife?
no, ive just never heard anyone else call themselves "jew-ish" and not "jewish".
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MisterStompy 5/31/2023 12:25 PM
The Georgia Republican Party may have tipped Pence’s hand Wednesday in an email explaining he could no longer deliver the keynote address at a June 9th event.
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no, ive just never heard anyone else call themselves "jew-ish" and not "jewish".
Okay well, so in order for you not to make the mistake of insulting my wife again I'll explain the joke. First, her father was a very good comedian, some of that rubbed off, not as much as she thinks sometimes however. Second, her mother was adopted by a Jewish family,,, so they don't know mom's genetic lineage. Third, my wife is not religious at all, but does practice the rituals on occasion. Thus... Jew... ish.
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Okay well, so in order for you not to make the mistake of insulting my wife again I'll explain the joke. First, her father was a very good comedian, some of that rubbed off, not as much as she thinks sometimes however. Second, her mother was adopted by a Jewish family,,, so they don't know mom's genetic lineage. Third, my wife is not religious at all, but does practice the rituals on occasion. Thus... Jew... ish.
i guess that makes sense
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also you dont need to be so standoffish
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im simply a confused person navigating peoples "stuff".
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also you dont need to be so standoffish
Likening a person's wife to a serial liar who happens to also be a reprehensible human being in literally every way, is probably going to make someone a little fucking standoffish. Own your fucking actions, I didn't respond to nothing. And making this statement is more than a little gaslightey. I believe if you can't see how the offense can be taken from the comment, then you need to do a whole lot of introspection. "I'm sorry I equated your wife to George Santos. That was callous and inconsiderate on a whole host of levels." Would be a great next line of text out of you.
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Likening a person's wife to a serial liar who happens to also be a reprehensible human being in literally every way, is probably going to make someone a little fucking standoffish. Own your fucking actions, I didn't respond to nothing. And making this statement is more than a little gaslightey. I believe if you can't see how the offense can be taken from the comment, then you need to do a whole lot of introspection. "I'm sorry I equated your wife to George Santos. That was callous and inconsiderate on a whole host of levels." Would be a great next line of text out of you.
its not about the person
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its not about the person
Don't respond to me again. I revoke my consent to communication between us.
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perminently?
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im sorry if i upset you
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sometimes im insensitive
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Don't respond to me again. I revoke my consent to communication between us.
i am sorry that i upset you, i did not think through what i said
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I gave you the chance to apologize. I explained exactly why what you said was offensive, I even gave you a valid apology for the circumstance. And you responded by arguing with it. You have consistently shown a lack of basic respect for people here (and to me in particular), not even limited to when you disagree, sometimes just seemingly because of a willful lack of consideration of others. That's more toxicity than I wish to voluntarily associate with. Keep your thoughts in regards to anything I say, to yourself. That's the boundary I'm setting here.
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i did apolize
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im not sure why you refuse to aknowlage this
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its not about the person
This was where you should have apologized. Now if you can't respect my request, I'll fucking leave. You are deflecting, which is another fucking toxic ass trait, in addition to the arguing with someone you offended. Do not respond to me again. Period. End of story.
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This was where you should have apologized. Now if you can't respect my request, I'll fucking leave. You are deflecting, which is another fucking toxic ass trait, in addition to the arguing with someone you offended. Do not respond to me again. Period. End of story.
im trying to
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i am not trying to deflect
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i am trying to apologize
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its very hurtfull that you refuse to accept my apology
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it is quite genuine
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i truely regret making the comparison
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i mean no harm, and im trying to be direct
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i suck at speaking on internet
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its the term "people of colour" people use it to refer to nonwhites
It's just the "politically correct" version of the term "non-White" basically
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you have a good point with it
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idk any alternatives though
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"minorities" works I guess
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for the US
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for the next couple decades
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It's just the "politically correct" version of the term "non-White" basically
yeah, i just say nonwhite
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"people of colour" is about as cringe as BAME
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But even nonwhite excludes most Jews, White Hispanics, many Middle Easterners and more
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Which are complicated because they sometimes benefit from biases (since they count as "White" to some people) and sometimes suffer because of it
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But even nonwhite excludes most Jews, White Hispanics, many Middle Easterners and more
middle easterners and jews are considered white in some contexts, but are over all non white
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socially non whitr
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even though MENA people (i include jews in mena peoples) are lighter skinned
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the irish were considered nonwhite
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same with italians
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MisterStompy 5/31/2023 6:53 PM
This is a huge deal. I consider the Church of Scientology to be a genuine threat to democracy. The fact that they weren't able to bail him out of this is BIG. In the past, celebrity Scientologists were able to get away with everything either because the "Church" paid them off or simply intimidated their accusers. https://twitter.com/AP/status/1664020169876815872
BREAKING: A jury found “That ’70s Show” star Danny Masterson guilty of two counts of rape Wednesday in a Los Angeles retrial in which the Church of Scientology played a central role. The 47-year-old actor faces up to 30 years in prison. https://t.co/lAMdzPAHZq
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currently jews and middle easterners are also
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but european descended hispanics are very close to becoming the next italians an irish
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though as long as antisemitism and islamophobia are common jews and middle easterners will still be considered non white
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This is a huge deal. I consider the Church of Scientology to be a genuine threat to democracy. The fact that they weren't able to bail him out of this is BIG. In the past, celebrity Scientologists were able to get away with everything either because the "Church" paid them off or simply intimidated their accusers. https://twitter.com/AP/status/1664020169876815872
Good. I hope he stays in jail for the rest of his life, at least until he is old and losing his mind
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MisterStompy 5/31/2023 6:56 PM
These people are fucking scary. The fact that they haven't tried a coup yet astounds me. https://youtu.be/aAHPaQlafSI
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This is a huge deal. I consider the Church of Scientology to be a genuine threat to democracy. The fact that they weren't able to bail him out of this is BIG. In the past, celebrity Scientologists were able to get away with everything either because the "Church" paid them off or simply intimidated their accusers. https://twitter.com/AP/status/1664020169876815872
AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/31/2023 6:57 PM
One of those few times I think to myself "Yeah Imma burn a religious site" although calling scientology a religion would be.....quite insulting in of itself
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/31/2023 6:57 PM
consider it the biggesr MLM to ever MLM
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One of those few times I think to myself "Yeah Imma burn a religious site" although calling scientology a religion would be.....quite insulting in of itself
MisterStompy 5/31/2023 6:57 PM
They make Heaven's Gate seem benevolent.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/31/2023 6:58 PM
Eh, heaven's gate actually went out and crucified people and skinned part of their bodies as a mere entrance fee
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i'd take any monetary punishment over punishing my own body
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MisterStompy 5/31/2023 6:59 PM
There's still somebody maintaining their website.
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Oh no, what happened, guys?
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MisterStompy 5/31/2023 7:22 PM
turn that poop into wine turn that poop into wine TURN THAT POOP INTO WINE
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These people are fucking scary. The fact that they haven't tried a coup yet astounds me. https://youtu.be/aAHPaQlafSI
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/31/2023 8:21 PM
Operation Snow White was a criminal conspiracy by the Church of Scientology during the 1970s to purge unfavorable records about Scientology and its founder, L. Ron Hubbard. This project included a series of infiltrations into and thefts from 136 government agencies, foreign embassies and consulates, as well as private organizations critical of S...
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MisterStompy 5/31/2023 8:26 PM
I'm just glad the new Dead Space remake goes so hard on Sciento- oh excuse me, Unitology which has no similarities whatsoever.
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Epsilon
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Kifflom!
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 5/31/2023 8:56 PM
Kifflom!
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/1/2023 12:18 AM
Student ‘Lina E’, 28, and three male accomplices sentenced amid chaotic court scenes for attacks that injured 13
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/1/2023 4:42 AM
Laughter erupted in the room after Sen. Markwayne Mullin’s declaration, with another lawmaker joking they “got it on tape.”
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Trump: "I don't like the term 'woke," because I hear the term 'woke woke woke' -- it's just a term they use, half the people can't define it, they don't know what it is."
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This is a broken clock moment
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/1/2023 2:09 PM
fair
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MisterStompy 6/1/2023 2:46 PM
A Japanese court ruled on Tuesday that not allowing same-sex marriage was unconstitutional, a decision activists welcomed as a step towards marriage equality in the only Group of Seven nation with no legal protection for same-sex unions.
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anime pfp's on suicide watch
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Japanese queers, drag queens and lgbta who have been fighting for literal years to be recognized seriously:
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ok but Japan has a very...tense history with lgbta folk
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Japanese queers, drag queens and lgbta who have been fighting for literal years to be recognized seriously:
MisterStompy 6/1/2023 3:21 PM
honestly I'm just laughing at all the western fascists screeching because Japan isn't the trad loli paradise they want it to be
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/1/2023 3:23 PM
Which is funny as this is the same place that gave us this.
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MisterStompy 6/1/2023 3:25 PM
"THE EAST HAS FALLEN TO WESTERN INFULENCE!!!" motherfucker it fell over 80 years ago, cry about it you little weeb shitter
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These fucking goofballs actually think Hideki Tojo was watching Yu Gi Oh while plotting the annexation of Manchuria
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"THE EAST HAS FALLEN TO WESTERN INFULENCE!!!" motherfucker it fell over 80 years ago, cry about it you little weeb shitter
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/1/2023 3:29 PM
And before that, it went on a massive imperialism spree that made Europe blush.
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And before that, it went on a massive imperialism spree that made Europe blush.
MisterStompy 6/1/2023 3:30 PM
Which was ironically the result of western influence. Tojo went to Europe and heard about what Mussolini was doing and went "I wanna do that but three times more violent"
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Which was ironically the result of western influence. Tojo went to Europe and heard about what Mussolini was doing and went "I wanna do that but three times more violent"
Well to be fair Tojo didn't see his own people as human, let alone the various cultures of China.
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MisterStompy 6/1/2023 3:32 PM
"We're not even at the best part, my dear Tojoboo friend."
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"You see, us libtards were always ten steps ahead of you."
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MisterStompy 6/1/2023 5:14 PM
The Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division has just filed a challenge to Kentucky's ban on gender affirming care. https://t.co/nTU2gcHIWc
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MisterStompy 6/1/2023 5:25 PM
PATRIOTS ARE IN CONTROL
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this is a decent video on china
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vitaminWee 6/1/2023 6:45 PM
The antifascist movement emerged in Russia in the late 1990s – early 2000s as a response to neo-Nazis’ violence: back then, the far-right was attacking migrants, homeless people, punks and anyone they didn’t like almost daily. Over the past couple of decades, the movement has changed significantly, having gone through murders of its participants...
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MisterStompy 6/1/2023 9:20 PM
uh oh
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MisterStompy 6/2/2023 1:06 PM
Ron's wife took the podium and he's SEETHING because of it oh my God
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so this confirms he and his wife hate each other
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how long til we find out she's cuckholding him?
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seems to be a real problem with right wing men lately
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/2/2023 3:49 PM
so he sits in the cuck chair
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every hotel got the ron desantis chair 😳
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/2/2023 3:51 PM
In a new ruling, the Court sided with a company that sued its union for property damage because it went on strike. That sets a precedent that if a union strikes, it has to ensure the company won't lose any money.
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Not surprised. But it's nice to have proof that we live in a fascist totalitarian capitalist oligarchy.
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AvoidOblivion 6/2/2023 4:39 PM
“In the 40-page complaint, Ford said the alleged scheme to curb competition among Blue Cross Blue Shield organizations deprived the vehicle manufacturer of ‘the opportunity to purchase health insurance products and services from a lower cost competitor and/or at a price set by the free market.’” https://www.reuters.com/legal/ford-motor-co-sues-blue-cross-blue-shield-antitrust-case-over-astronomical-2023-06-01/
Ford Motor Co sued Blue Cross Blue Shield Association in U.S. court on Wednesday, accusing it of a price-fixing conspiracy that caused the automaker to pay inflated costs for health insurance products for its employees.
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joe hill’s revenge 6/2/2023 5:05 PM
Scumbags
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Not surprised. But it's nice to have proof that we live in a fascist totalitarian capitalist oligarchy.
Yeah except people tend forget this is gonna increase actual fucking sabotaging. You think losing some cars is bad, boy, now they got reasons to bankrupt you into nonexistence.
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Hard to get lawyers when all your shit is fucked
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MisterStompy 6/3/2023 1:43 AM
BREAKING: Late Friday night, a federal judge declared Tennessee’s anti-drag Adult Entertainment Act to be unconstitutional following a two-day trial last month. More to come at Law Dork: https://t.co/oFbD0ZqTha
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apparently Trump appointed the judge as well lmao
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GO SUCK IT FLORIDA
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AND TEXAS
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TEXAS ESPECIALLY
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Georgia’s investigation in Trump’s efforts to overturn the election is expanding to D.C. and other states, according to a report from The Washington Post
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oh lord
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/3/2023 1:29 PM
China is definately the good guys guys, trust them, Tianamen square? whats that? Uyghurs? they love dancing! etc etc
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AvoidOblivion 6/3/2023 10:19 PM
“There was no literature being produced that intellectualise the conversation around queer people.” That’s because they were killed or imprisoned.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/3/2023 10:20 PM
basically
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/4/2023 2:17 AM
NEW YORK (PIX11) — New York City’s Department of Correction will no longer notify the public when a person dies in their custody on Rikers Island.  “The Commissioner wants to respect tho…
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I mean, I do see a point when it comes to privacy and such... but I don't trust it
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They're in jail, it's already public information that they're in jail
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I think when they get released, it's public information that they've been released
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Might as well make/keep the death records public too (edited)
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Not "public information" as in "the news websites report on it," but public as in "you can look up their name/number on the prison website"
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BubsyFanboy 6/4/2023 6:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/live/3YZELAk_4qs?feature=share The Grand March of the Polish opposition
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AvoidOblivion 6/4/2023 11:25 AM
Daily News Reported is a satirical news site.
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Daily News Reported is a satirical news site.
BubsyFanboy 6/4/2023 11:27 AM
whoops, okay, thx
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I want an investigation into who these people are. This group, just like the Patriot Front group that marches in DC, looks like a fed operation trying to create racism, white supremacy, and racial division where none exist. Take your masks off you cowards.
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Isolated and astronomically unlikely MTG W
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MisterStompy 6/4/2023 8:39 PM
By Andrew Higgins
The country’s largest antigovernment gathering in years sought to reclaim the legacy of the Solidarity movement that led the struggle against a Communist system imposed by Moscow.
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joe hill’s revenge 6/4/2023 9:12 PM
not really, they aren't feds
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PF is infiltrated by feds
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but she's insinuating that it's a fed-run or majority-fed group
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joe hill’s revenge 6/4/2023 9:19 PM
yes, and the racism is real not invented by the feds
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AvoidOblivion 6/4/2023 9:39 PM
She’s actually making sense… What happened? Did a “donor” forget to make a payment and she became normal for a bit? I have to actually agree with her; those white supremacists have no place here and this country has fought hard against racism.
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She’s actually making sense… What happened? Did a “donor” forget to make a payment and she became normal for a bit? I have to actually agree with her; those white supremacists have no place here and this country has fought hard against racism.
The fallout amongst her 'peers' of her backing McCarthy perhaps? (edited)
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Realistically she's actually trying to lay the groundwork that any hate crimes by these groups is fake or lay the groundwork the fbi can't be trusted (which, given one of its heads told the gop investigation committee to go fuck itself and refuse to testify...)
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Realistically she's actually trying to lay the groundwork that any hate crimes by these groups is fake or lay the groundwork the fbi can't be trusted (which, given one of its heads told the gop investigation committee to go fuck itself and refuse to testify...)
So more GQP delusion against the left
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yes but it will make the fbi hate her more
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I know that the fbi has an institutional hatred of leftists and protestors, but they dislike fascists even more.
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I know that the fbi has an institutional hatred of leftists and protestors, but they dislike fascists even more.
At least now they dislike fascists more
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Progress.
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At least now they dislike fascists more
no no, they hate them as much as leftists, The FBI hated the Klan possibly more then Black Panthers. barely more, but still
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BubsyFanboy 6/5/2023 7:20 AM
Indeed. Turnout figures are in hundreds of thousands.
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Xi is a filthy capitalist in communist skin tbh. The worse of both
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Xi is a filthy capitalist in communist skin tbh. The worse of both
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/5/2023 3:45 PM
In other words, he's like most communist leaders.
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She could start by throwing Musk and any anti-woke Twitter out
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/5/2023 4:01 PM
no no
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let it all crumble
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Stolas_of_the_Stars 6/5/2023 4:53 PM
I am totally OK with it if twitter goes bye bye.
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I am totally OK with it if twitter goes bye bye.
I mean valid. But I have friends who got a good commission for art that Twitter is really good for going on and they are PISSED at Musk
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Stolas_of_the_Stars 6/5/2023 5:03 PM
Yea I mean it had potential to be such a great democratizing influence. Alas not now 😦
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No
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Is it just me or are many multinational corporations run by victory addicts, or hustle addicts, or making money addicts?
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Yes
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I mean don't they realize that they are forever unhappy no matter how much money they make or how much more money they make. Even beyond comprehension. Even if they see themselves as winners, they are still unsatisfied and they need to keep on winning. Looking for that same high as when they first "won" it's classic addict behavior.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/5/2023 10:40 PM
An employee at Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence drained the resort’s swimming pool last October and ended up flooding a room where computer servers containing surveillance video logs were kept, sources familiar with the matter told CNN.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/5/2023 10:43 PM
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nuke it
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I mean don't they realize that they are forever unhappy no matter how much money they make or how much more money they make. Even beyond comprehension. Even if they see themselves as winners, they are still unsatisfied and they need to keep on winning. Looking for that same high as when they first "won" it's classic addict behavior.
The lack of being able to what if due to their psychopathy prevents them from being able to process that sort of thing.
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Like not even kidding, the same center of the brain responsible for telling you when you've fucked up, is the same one responsible for questioning what will happen if you do X. When you are capable of dooming someone to poverty based death because you have no ability to feel guilt, you also cannot process why doing something better would result in long term benefits.
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And executives are hired explicitly for their ability to do heinous things to people without remorse.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/6/2023 10:16 AM
An american twitch streamer known for being racist to Japanese people got assaulted and called racial slurs in Japan Fuck around and find out I guess (edited)
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MisterStompy 6/6/2023 11:48 AM
Yesterday, the Out and About ladies (their word) dropped their line of Pride Month merch. The main Barstool twitter posted the video. And a slice of stoolies...evacuated. "Not my Barstool!" they raged...
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AIF Cuirassier regiment
An american twitch streamer known for being racist to Japanese people got assaulted and called racial slurs in Japan Fuck around and find out I guess (edited)
MisterStompy 6/6/2023 11:49 AM
Honestly my favorite part of all of that drama is the racists on Twitter saying "omg I can't believe a black Twitch streamer would be so disrespectful to the Japanese" as if there aren't like 30 fucking white dudes who stream themselves going around yelling slurs at black people here in the US. (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/6/2023 11:49 AM
basically
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more twitch streamers need to Find out after fucking around so much
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MisterStompy 6/6/2023 12:08 PM
The only way this "irl streamer" thing is gonna stop is if all of these guys are repeatedly sent to the ICU
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Judge outright accuses defense of bigotry, and uses the legislative comments made in the committee hearings against the defense. Remember when the Florida lawmaker called trans people "mutants, demons, and imps"? That played a role in taking down this law!
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/6/2023 12:09 PM
Yup
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MisterStompy 6/6/2023 12:12 PM
We have it in writing in a court case now: "The great weight of medical authority supports these treatments"
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joe hill’s revenge 6/6/2023 12:50 PM
Afghanistan's leaders are following through on their anti-drug decree to stop cultivation.
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Common taliban W
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/6/2023 12:56 PM
@Moderator
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/6/2023 12:57 PM
The epitome of "america bad" brainrot.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/6/2023 12:58 PM
should have guessed
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/6/2023 12:58 PM
Again, why the fuck are you even here if you're just going to deepthroat the very tyranny we stand against?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/6/2023 12:59 PM
there's a reason taliban controlled Afghanistan is REALLY low on the happyness scale
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MisterStompy 6/6/2023 12:59 PM
lmao you're fucking high if you think the Taliban is actually gonna stop the production of opium
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/6/2023 1:00 PM
profit is profit
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not that its a good statement
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MisterStompy 6/6/2023 1:00 PM
It's literally their only way to make money rn, especially now that they realize we're not gonna be giving them any money
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/6/2023 1:01 PM
obviously
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who the hell would want to give a gov like the taliban a cent
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unless you're russia or something
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and even then the taliban don't like russia XD(if i remember correctly)
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and even then the taliban don't like russia XD(if i remember correctly)
MisterStompy 6/6/2023 1:02 PM
or Iran either lmao, the new tankie line is that the CIA controlled the Taliban this whole time
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/6/2023 1:02 PM
excuse me what
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I'm sorry but that seriously caught me off guard
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what the fuck si that line of thinking
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AIF Cuirassier regiment
excuse me what
MisterStompy 6/6/2023 1:03 PM
After the Taliban and Iran got into a border conflict the tankies didn't know who to support so they just freaked out and said that the Taliban got "compromised"
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/6/2023 1:04 PM
I'm not sure if i should laugh or just be disapointed
1:04 PM
how are people this stupid
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MisterStompy 6/6/2023 1:04 PM
this is your brain on "america always bad"
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/6/2023 1:04 PM
yeah
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MisterStompy
this is your brain on "america always bad"
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this is your brain on "america always bad"
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/6/2023 1:05 PM
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MisterStompy 6/6/2023 3:25 PM
Republican lawmakers past statements over transgender people and committee hearing records are heavily referenced in a new court case to overturn a gender affirming care ban in Idaho.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/6/2023 4:09 PM
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/6/2023 4:22 PM
Holy fuck lmfao
4:22 PM
that is incompetence of the highest order!
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MisterStompy 6/6/2023 4:43 PM
oh my god
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"my yuri hentai doesn't get me off anymore because it's too woke" (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/6/2023 4:52 PM
You gotta be shitting me
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this HAS to be a troll
4:55 PM
SUCK IT DESATAN
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BubsyFanboy 6/6/2023 5:08 PM
London je Srbija
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/6/2023 5:34 PM
I saw that one. There's another comment complaining about how Hollywood's always been woke and they're only just now realizing it.
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London je Srbija
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/6/2023 5:36 PM
Being the vanguard of colonialism, I'd imagine there's more than a couple folks whose dads are war criminals.
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MisterStompy 6/6/2023 5:50 PM
What's so upsetting about this video? Maybe she just doesn't like Earth Wind and Fire? https://twitter.com/jessicahodlr/status/1665832346153545728
Oh look another ad for homeschooling.
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What's so upsetting about this video? Maybe she just doesn't like Earth Wind and Fire? https://twitter.com/jessicahodlr/status/1665832346153545728
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/6/2023 5:51 PM
And these people give the left crap for being easily offended...
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What's so upsetting about this video? Maybe she just doesn't like Earth Wind and Fire? https://twitter.com/jessicahodlr/status/1665832346153545728
AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/6/2023 6:14 PM
Earth wind and fire fucking slap
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/6/2023 6:24 PM
Shocking Exclusive: Atlanta Police Officers Admit Law Enforcement Illegally Raided,Arrested, and Targeted Citizens Who Opposed Cop City, Money Was the Reason
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What's so upsetting about this video? Maybe she just doesn't like Earth Wind and Fire? https://twitter.com/jessicahodlr/status/1665832346153545728
Another woman to put down for CPS. Homeschooling really should either be illegal or heavily heavily regulated
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Another woman to put down for CPS. Homeschooling really should either be illegal or heavily heavily regulated
AvoidOblivion 6/6/2023 7:00 PM
Or at least require some form of certification for parents wishing to homeschool and standardized tests for the children, to ensure they are receiving a proper education.
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hence, regulation
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MisterStompy 6/6/2023 7:15 PM
This tweet's still up, btw
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/6/2023 7:19 PM
I fucking hate twitter
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MisterStompy 6/6/2023 7:21 PM
He's either in New York or Charlotte, North Carolina btw
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currently looking for his instagram
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looks like his website is down
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Got raided most likely
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/6/2023 11:50 PM
Jairo Rodriguez, the right-wing protester and Trump supporter whose disputed police report to the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department led to the controversial arrests of queer volunteers at West Hollywood Pride this weekend, has been confirmed as...
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We love hearing from our existing friends and clients, as well as all our new friends, we make from around the world every day! If you’d like to contact us, please refer to the block below, c…
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phone number and address of the radio host who threatened to shoot up the school with pride flags
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^^^
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AvoidOblivion 6/7/2023 6:48 AM
The FBI has its problem, but you can report him to the FBI for making threats of terrorist acts.
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phone number and address of the radio host who threatened to shoot up the school with pride flags
#chaos-monkeys
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This is the type of person who should end up on a watch list.
To be fair, it's likely he is on a watch list already but still, sometimes being a snitch is fine
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Or at least require some form of certification for parents wishing to homeschool and standardized tests for the children, to ensure they are receiving a proper education.
I'm fully in favor of homeschooling with standardized testing to make sure they are on par with their peers, and some amount of training for the parents to make sure they understand how to educate. Homeschooling networks (when not horrifically religious) are a good way to allow parents to work with each other to each focus on certain subjects to teach so they aren't trying to pretend to be competent with everything.
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I'm fully in favor of homeschooling with standardized testing to make sure they are on par with their peers, and some amount of training for the parents to make sure they understand how to educate. Homeschooling networks (when not horrifically religious) are a good way to allow parents to work with each other to each focus on certain subjects to teach so they aren't trying to pretend to be competent with everything.
DevilTheAutopoet 6/7/2023 2:25 PM
It's also best when there's actually a preset curriculum constructed by actual experts and not just the parents making shit up as they go.
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There's also a tendency of homeschooling parents to try to "unschool" their kids without having any real concept of how unschooling or self-directed education is actually supposed to work, and so they basically just let the kids do whatever and expect them to just spontaneously educate themselves with no input. (edited)
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When I was homeschooled and took part in the groups, the kids ranged from doing calculus at 14 all the way down to "What's an integer?". And I'm not even talking about intelligence differences, I could tell these kids could actually absorb info at similar levels, it's just that some of them were actually being given info to absorb and some just weren't.
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That's fair. I would have probably been a decent kid for that given the right environment. Most of the time I had for English classes could have been better spent on another language.
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Mostly I'm just annoyed that learning another language now seems like it takes effort instead of how it felt effortless to learn English. (edited)
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MisterStompy 6/7/2023 5:06 PM
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) claims Republican leadership is considering “canceling” the contempt of Congress vote against FBI Director Christopher Wray to “stick it” to the Freedom Caucus for blocking the House rule vote on gas stoves.
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Gas stoves
MisterStompy 6/7/2023 5:14 PM
Gas stoves
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joe hill’s revenge 6/7/2023 5:15 PM
This is what our elected leaders care about
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?
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please be dumb enough to be THAT petty
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MisterStompy 6/7/2023 5:25 PM
"Governor, this man helped stop the Axis from conquering the world!" visibly disgusted https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1665774279256940546
It's worth reading the whole anecdote: "Governor, I think there's a World War II veteran back there!" an aide told DeSantis as the crowd swarmed. DeSantis gave a nod in the veteran's direction, flashed a thumbs-up, thanked him for his service and turned back to someone else…
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This is a solution.
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BubsyFanboy 6/8/2023 4:37 AM
The secretary of the director of Russian federal aviation agency is gonna be appointed as the overseer of airworthiness, quality of civilian airliners and stuff. She's a philologist, she doesn't know anything about planes! https://www-moscowtimes-eu.translate.goog/2023/06/07/sekretarshu-glavi-rosaviatsii-postavyat-sledit-zaletnoi-godnostyu-samoletov-a45390?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pl&_x_tr_pto=wapp
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MisterStompy 6/8/2023 12:00 PM
WHOA! The Supreme Court's final decision of the day is a 5–4 ruling that AFFIRMS the Voting Rights Act's protection against racial vote dilution! Roberts and Kavanaugh join the liberals. This is a HUGE surprise and a major voting rights victory. https://t.co/qMN96f0FXr
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MisterStompy 6/8/2023 12:00 PM
NYPD: If you aren't nice to us we'll quit our jobs! NY: You will?!
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to be fair, its a fine NY tradition to bully the fuck outta their cops
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cop respect on 9/11 was a rarity, namely because it was the one time in NY where cops actually did the whole "protect and serve" bit
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MisterStompy 6/8/2023 3:06 PM
lmao get bitchslapped by the invisible hand of the free market
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The action from YouTube comes as the platform is trying to navigate conservative pundits’ increasing focus on LGBTQ+ people.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/8/2023 3:09 PM
When people tell me there's no racism in Europe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Romani_sentiment
Anti-Romani sentiment (also called antigypsyism, anti-Romanyism, Romaphobia, or Antiziganism) is a form of bigotry which consists of hostility, prejudice, discrimination, racism and xenophobia which is specifically directed at Romani people (Roma, Sinti, Iberian Kale, Welsh Kale, Finnish Kale, Horahane Roma, and Romanichal). Non-Romani itinerant...
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/8/2023 3:11 PM
Progressive Europeans when they see a Romani man minding his own business
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joe hill’s revenge 6/8/2023 3:32 PM
These two have killed people
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MisterStompy 6/8/2023 3:32 PM
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joe hill’s revenge 6/8/2023 3:37 PM
These two r just idiots
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These two have killed people
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joe hill’s revenge 6/8/2023 5:13 PM
What
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/8/2023 5:14 PM
Thats what I wanna do to them
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a little hit and run
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life for a life and all that
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MisterStompy 6/8/2023 7:01 PM
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/8/2023 7:03 PM
New Wojak just dropped
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MisterStompy 6/8/2023 7:04 PM
what exactly does Dr. Witnesser "witness" anyway?
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is he witnessing his best friend and his wife or something?
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If you haven't seen it yet, go watch it now! It's #Fortnite Edition of #WhatIsAWoman! Full video here: https://t.co/zoIpSay0hD
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MisterStompy 6/8/2023 7:42 PM
Donald Trump is gonna be indicted for the classified documents he took
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Lmao
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/8/2023 7:42 PM
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OK BUT THE CHARGES ARE
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CONSPIRACY TO DEFRAUD THE UNITED STATES INTERFERENCE IN A PEACEFUL TRANSFER OF POWER CONSPRIACY TO OVERTURN A FED ELECTION CONDPRICACY TO VIOLATE THE ESPONAGE ACT OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE ACTUALLY VIOLATING THE ESPONAGE ACT
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AND I THINK...MAYBE LYING UNDER OATH?
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seriously feel free to correct me, info flying fast and hard
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CONSPIRACY TO DEFRAUD THE UNITED STATES INTERFERENCE IN A PEACEFUL TRANSFER OF POWER CONSPRIACY TO OVERTURN A FED ELECTION CONDPRICACY TO VIOLATE THE ESPONAGE ACT OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE ACTUALLY VIOLATING THE ESPONAGE ACT
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YES
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/8/2023 11:10 PM
can someone tell me the espionage part? i didn't keep up with that one
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basically the esionage act is to prevent people in high gov positions from taking classified shit from the fbi, military and cia. It was done, in part, when the nuke secrets got stolen for the Soviets.
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its a pretty fucking serious charge
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only right underneath treason
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fuck, that light treason ain't wrong either
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given that's exactly what its for
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I cannot escape the conclusion that for all the conservatives ranting about how feminism and LGBTQ+ culture is killing the family. The capitalist system of employment actually separates and alienates more people for longer.
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Not sure if this belongs here or in another channel
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Looking forward to the circus
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Not sure if this belongs here or in another channel
AvoidOblivion 6/9/2023 11:30 AM
“They are acting like he sold military secrets to an agent of a foreign power.” Yes, that is because it looks like he did exactly that.
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did not think i would find someone like that on tankiejerk
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seems to think that "racists" need to be kicked out of american and palestine
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i oppose expulsions full stop
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Looking forward to the circus
My issue is, this is shaping up to be a more violent false flag protest like what happened with Bush vs Gore if I had to make a guess. We might need counterprotestors possibly to sow a narrative that yes, the real people actually want this
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The special counsel investigating former President Donald Trump unsealed the federal indictment and revealed more details about the charges.
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yeah...yeah Trump's got a good chance of getting fucked
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don't fuck with Military or CIA nuke secrets
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My issue is, this is shaping up to be a more violent false flag protest like what happened with Bush vs Gore if I had to make a guess. We might need counterprotestors possibly to sow a narrative that yes, the real people actually want this
I'm already planning to be there and take pictures and try for video. Anyone you hear about wanting to link up let me know
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maybe call for Florida members and call to action?
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jburch
Special counsel Jack Smith is delivering his first remarks Friday afternoon after a federal indictment against former President Trump over his handling of classified documents after leaving office …
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University of Chicago research finds support for violence to achieve political goals and general distrust of democracy
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the homicial crazies are out in full force
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be careful
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It’s hard to believe this is where our country is today, but here we are as our forefathers spin in their graves and the GOP sits on their hands. FJB
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Wow I’m not defending the baddies but this is poor taste
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eh, already shown in #memes and yes, the chat ripped it apart
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also definitely a GOPer made this
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also, while Trump is definitely the big story today, don't forget, this shit is still going on and we should brainstorm methods to combat it https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2023/06/small-town-pride-organizer-forced-to-flee-state-after-groomer-group-targeted-him/
Alex Keen wanted to show support for his local LGBTQ+ community. Now he's afraid to even enter his home...
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DevilTheAutopoet 6/10/2023 9:38 AM
Rep. Clay Higgins (R-LA) mystified many social media users with his response to Donald Trump's indictment, but one militia expert interpreted his tweet as a call to arms.The Louisiana Republican tweeted out a seemingly inscrutable message Thursday after the former president confirmed he had been ind...
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MisterStompy 6/10/2023 1:45 PM
Can't wait until Biden starts his own Killing Fields (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/10/2023 1:52 PM
the dark brandon fields if you may
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/10/2023 10:00 PM
Several Targets in the Oklahoma City metro are being evacuated after a threat
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i have a suspicion that this persons definition of racism is a bit broad
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if you know what i mean
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MisterStompy 6/10/2023 10:52 PM
That's so weird, who would have thought giving terrorists exactly what they want would only embolden them even further?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/11/2023 7:40 PM
President's son is shown naked and with drugs in images published online by Right-wing activist
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When are we going to put at least a majority of both families in jail?
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MisterStompy 6/11/2023 8:41 PM
God I want Hunter to be president so bad.
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That doesn't look like hunter biden. Also I want someone to look at if for a deepfake.
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An american twitch streamer known for being racist to Japanese people got assaulted and called racial slurs in Japan Fuck around and find out I guess (edited)
AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/11/2023 11:16 PM
He got punched again lmao
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BubsyFanboy 6/12/2023 2:25 AM
2019 was a heck of an election
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Should've let them banned.
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MisterStompy 6/12/2023 2:13 PM
Over the past year, the far right’s obsession with accusing its opponents of pedophilia has become a staple of the modern Republican playbook. Conservative media stars and GOP elected officials have used baseless accusations of sexual abuse and child “grooming” to attack Democrats and demonize the LGBTQ rights movement across the nation.  A revi...
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/12/2023 4:23 PM
Apparently someone has thrown a Milkshake at Nigel Farange, thats fucking hilarious
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Apparently someone has thrown a Milkshake at Nigel Farange, thats fucking hilarious
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/12/2023 4:40 PM
Got the Nick Fuentes treatment, I see.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/12/2023 4:40 PM
yup
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a child told him "My mommy told me you hate foreigners" on live tv too
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that hit a spot that makes me very very happy
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/12/2023 9:10 PM
By Jeremy W. Peters and Benjamin Mullin
The network and its former star host have been engaged in an increasingly bitter dispute over Mr. Carlson’s Twitter videos, which Fox says violate his contract.
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Oh this is going to be good.
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Sue, sue, sue.
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Why was Nicola Sturgeon arrested?
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I know two things about her: 1. She's been leader of Scotland for like ten years 2. She got arrested recently
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BubsyFanboy 6/13/2023 3:40 AM
Very disappointed to learn that a Polish documentary called “re-set” where I was interviewed is being used to attack @radeksikorski as pro-Russian and try to exclude him from Polish politics. I can’t think of many people who have been more effective in countering Putin than Radek
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Why was Nicola Sturgeon arrested?
AvoidOblivion 6/13/2023 6:49 AM
There is currently an on-going investigation of the Scottish National Party (SNP) over the whereabouts of several hundred thousand pounds. The money was intended to be used for another vote on independence but went missing. Sturgeon has been complying with authorities thusfar. She was asked to report to the investigators for further questioning (I am not sure if they informed her they would be arresting her beforehand), at which point they arrested her. Her husband, as well as the lead treasurer of the SNP, were also arrested. During the investigation, the police seized a £100,000 RV from her parents’ property in Fife.
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Interesting
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Well last time they said it would be a "once in a generation" vote so I guess they figured they'd spend some of that money in the meantime
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It's only been 10 years, barely
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Maybe 9
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Lol
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Buy a fancy RV
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Maybe some jetskis
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BubsyFanboy 6/13/2023 7:10 AM
BREAKING: Japan has passed a new law allowing it to start exporting weapons for the first time since WW2. The new law also makes it possible to produce more weapons for the needs of the Japanese military itself.
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MisterStompy 6/13/2023 11:45 AM
"Hunter Biden’s legal team says that they also plan to seek depositions of several others in the case, including former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and Steve Bannon, who allegedly had roles in spreading news of the data stored on the device." https://www.rawstory.com/hunter-biden-deposes-shop-owner/
The Delaware computer repair shop owner who was in possession of Hunter Biden's laptop, the contents of which would later become public, was deposed by Hunter Biden's' lawyer on Wednesday, Axios reported. John Paul Mac Isaac sued Hunter, as well as President Joe Biden and CNN, for defamation in 2022...
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/13/2023 2:03 PM
A newly declassified report from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence reveals that the federal government is buying troves of data about Americans.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/13/2023 2:17 PM
Former President Trump is riding in his car alone as he makes his way to the courthouse, sources tell me & @Santucci. His legal team is in the car behind him-- Todd Blanche and Chris Kise. Trump aide Walt Nauta is also riding in that car with his attorney Stanley Woodward.
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Japan also wants in on fucking Russia over. They want their islands back you motherfuckers.
2:33 PM
also NK is...a issue
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eh, we knew that was gonna happen. The issue is, everyone is. Even us.
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DONALD TRUMP IS NOW UNDER ARREST
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Former President Donald Trump is under arrest at the federal courthouse in Miami, where he'll face 37 criminal charges related to his handling of classified documents. Follow here for the latest live updates.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/13/2023 3:01 PM
HOLY SHIT
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THEY FUCKING DID IT
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now where the fuck is that champagne bottle I stashed
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MisterStompy 6/13/2023 3:41 PM
Grandparents attending a school track meet in Kelowna stopped the event and demanded a 9 year-old female student be examined to make sure they weren't a boy competing in a girls event. https://t.co/c93UYF8pBJ
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/13/2023 3:46 PM
bruh
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MisterStompy 6/13/2023 3:49 PM
If I saw something like this take place it'd get physical instantly.
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First degree manslaughter, at the very least.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/13/2023 3:55 PM
they're old, you only need to slap them around a bit
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go for the knees!
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Its a old person's weakpoint!
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BubsyFanboy 6/13/2023 5:58 PM
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You know you've made your country way too anti-choice on abortion when both progressive right-libertarians and social-democrats team up against you.
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You know you've made your country way too anti-choice on abortion when both progressive right-libertarians and social-democrats team up against you.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/13/2023 7:14 PM
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/13/2023 8:34 PM
Update: both Trump and his codefendant are being released on their own recognizance, they are free to leave. Trump is expected to return to New Jersey and speak to reporters tonight. #CNN
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Assuming this is A.) Legit and B.) His ass gets a No flight risk
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And for this, this is a automatic no flight risk
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Mr_Pi_Man314 6/14/2023 4:39 PM
man whats he doing up here in nj find another state to go to boooo
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MisterStompy 6/14/2023 8:16 PM
the virgin fascist vs the chad homosexual https://twitter.com/Stumptown161/status/1668848617023471616
Evergreen Active Club and Rose City Nationalists made a paltry showing at Lewis County Pride last weekend, and were clowned out of town by the locals. In this first video, you can see one of the EAC nazis being brutally murdered by a Pride attendee as the crowd cheers.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/14/2023 8:46 PM
House Republicans are plowing forward with plans to mark up their funding bills at lower levels than the limits agreed upon with Democrats just weeks ago, teeing up what could be a nasty spending b…
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NEW: There were repeated exit ramps to avoiding indictment that Trump didn’t take, per interviews with current and former advisers. Instead of striking a more cooperative pose and giving back documents, he went the opposite way. W/⁦@JaxAlemany⁩: https://t.co/POETAgbrlZ
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MisterStompy 6/14/2023 9:36 PM
Lauri Hussar, the newly elected president of Estonia, has suggested a change in law could be introduced within weeks.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/14/2023 9:47 PM
Esti is homo
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AvoidOblivion 6/14/2023 10:01 PM
I posted it in #north-carolina and I will post it again here: The NC State House is going to be voting on HB600 in the future, a bill that would, in essence, allow for unlimited dumping of chemicals like PFAS into the Cape Fear River Basin. Linked is a letter you can fill out to send to state representatives in protest of the bill. https://actionnetwork.org/letters/free-flowing-pfas-allowed-under-hb-600-please-reject?source=direct_link&
Practically speaking, this amendment would mean that toxic chemicals without numeric standards (like PFAS, 1,4-dioxane, etc.) could not be limited in discharge permits -- resulting in free -flowing toxic contamination. This is in blatant violation of the Clean Water Act which requires that technology-based limits be the “minimum level of cont...
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/14/2023 10:43 PM
A new version of the famous Holocaust diary is being called ‘Anne Frank pornography’ and is in turn getting banned from schools in Texas and Florida.
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I posted it in #north-carolina and I will post it again here: The NC State House is going to be voting on HB600 in the future, a bill that would, in essence, allow for unlimited dumping of chemicals like PFAS into the Cape Fear River Basin. Linked is a letter you can fill out to send to state representatives in protest of the bill. https://actionnetwork.org/letters/free-flowing-pfas-allowed-under-hb-600-please-reject?source=direct_link&
Stolas_of_the_Stars 6/14/2023 11:38 PM
Some of my students wrote letters about this and we're in a neighboring state.
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welp....Texas gonna get kidnapping charges
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welp....Texas gonna get kidnapping charges
Anyone knowingly involved can get charged, right?
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MisterStompy 6/15/2023 11:12 AM
Advocates for transgender rights have been racking up early legal victories over states that are trying to ban gender-affirming care for minors, as every court to have considered a ban so far has blocked it.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/15/2023 1:31 PM
The latest version of the Ohio Senate's state budget bill would prohibit student members of the Ohio State University Board of Trustees from having voting rights or being able to attend executive sessions.
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ya'll (Russian lawmakers) getting killed in the streets because of a war that is deeply unpopular You want to die? You gonna die?
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ya'll (Russian lawmakers) getting killed in the streets because of a war that is deeply unpopular You want to die? You gonna die?
MisterStompy 6/15/2023 3:06 PM
"Sir, footage just leaked of us gunning down retreating soldiers in Ukraine, what should we do?" "Outlaw gender transition."
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next headline: Russian recruitment center on fire again
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MisterStompy 6/15/2023 10:11 PM
WHAT ARE YOU DOING
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Damn Ive always wanted the kids to starve
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There is no bottom to how low they can go. Look, the end of the day is that we just give republicans all of our money.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/15/2023 11:28 PM
Republicans: Because fuck them kids literally and figuratively.
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BubsyFanboy 6/16/2023 9:33 AM
The word "Jude" alongside a Star of David was daubed on a shop window in the Bulgarian capital after a tense standoff with supporters from the far-right, nationalist Revival party, whose pugilistic leader and heavy-handed stunts have propelled it to nearly 14 percent support nationally.
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BubsyFanboy 6/16/2023 9:55 AM
It's baffling that this is a stance they're willing to turn into a promise.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/16/2023 12:25 PM
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/16/2023 12:26 PM
Implying their fat asses could get close enough to someone without passing out or being shot.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/16/2023 12:41 PM
lmao
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/16/2023 12:56 PM
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MisterStompy 6/16/2023 1:06 PM
Robert Bowers, the gunman who killed 11 worshippers at Pittsburgh’s Tree of Life synagogue in 2018, was convicted by a federal jury on all 63 charges against him. This was the deadliest attack ever on Jewish people in the US.
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I say we give him the Anton Dostler treatment.
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I say we give him the Anton Dostler treatment.
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As is they want everyone to hate them
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Oddly bold for a man who's neighbor is having a rash of alt right fuckheads gettin' their heads caved in.
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that's not a hyperbole either, Germany been reporting a rash of various alt right figures and nazis found violently beaten
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MisterStompy 6/16/2023 4:56 PM
🏳️‍⚧️MAJOR VICTORY: A federal judge has blocked Indiana's new law banning gender-affirming care for trans youth that was set to take effect July 1. This life-saving care will remain legal for trans Hoosiers of all ages while our lawsuit against the ban moves through the courts.
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that's not a hyperbole either, Germany been reporting a rash of various alt right figures and nazis found violently beaten
MisterStompy 6/16/2023 4:56 PM
Is that really happening though? iirc a while back an AFD politician claimed he was jumped by antifa but it turns out he just slipped and fell on ice.
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German police are preparing to mobilize in cities across the country on Saturday, with protests expected amid a mounting backlash after a court sent several left-wing militants to prison over attacks on neo-Nazis.
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CNN so keep the bias in mind, but neo nazis getting attacked is a thing that's been going on in Germany
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/16/2023 8:03 PM
this
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this makes me happy
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that's not a hyperbole either, Germany been reporting a rash of various alt right figures and nazis found violently beaten
BubsyFanboy 6/17/2023 1:50 AM
I doubt the german antifa folk would travel hundreds of kilometers just to beat up fash in Bulgaria.
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in Germany
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Hence the phrase "who's neighbor" in my statement
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MisterStompy 6/17/2023 10:35 AM
Conservatives shocked to discover the first amendment isn't just there so they can scream racial slurs at protests https://twitter.com/adamsteinbaugh/status/1669895986943066112
Federal court in Utah rules that drag shows are protected by the First Amendment, orders City of St. George to issue permit. https://t.co/d986AFKtZB
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AvoidOblivion 6/17/2023 4:42 PM
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Is this person actually complaining that somebody realized they were a terrible person and went from Nazi to Iron Front?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/17/2023 4:56 PM
You see
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fucking piece of shit morona who love to split communities appart don't like to think stuff like "Innocent until proven guilty" or "People can change" are real
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Hereby, i theorize Rats is a fed
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rather fitting
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Tbh one could be vaguely right wing then swing leftist thought usually cause they grew up or had something traumatic involving right wing politics happen to them Either or, nice to see outreach is working (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/17/2023 7:43 PM
yup
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fucking piece of shit morona who love to split communities appart don't like to think stuff like "Innocent until proven guilty" or "People can change" are real
BubsyFanboy 6/18/2023 2:57 AM
Exactly.
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By this guy's standard, I should've remained close to the neo-Nazis and beaten people up for being gay in public.
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He has to understand that being an Internet user means changing political opinions is inevitable, especially if you're young.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/18/2023 3:36 AM
Seann Patrick Pietila discussed the attack on Instagram, court documents said, where he frequently posted anti-semitic remarks about hating Jews.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 6/18/2023 4:51 AM
Yep, saw that in my local newspaper
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Sounds like the UP
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MisterStompy 6/18/2023 6:49 AM
Alright so Gosar's plan to set up a batallion of brownshirts aside, people are saying that his behavior is signs that he has Parkinsons, but personally I think he has SEVERE tardive dyskinesia, probably from the abuse of psych meds https://twitter.com/patriottakes/status/1670198215445037056 (edited)
Republican Rep. Paul Gosar wants to “make everybody deputies” and offer them “a bounty” for every “undercover” law enforcement and “antifa” they can identify from the January 6th Capitol footage.
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I'd say he was mixing smack with Seroquel
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Usually tardive dyskinesia is just mouth movements, but when "normal" people use psych meds the symptoms are way worse. Psych meds on their own don't really get you "high" because they're usually used to block dopamine, but supposedly people mix it with other drugs to enhance the effects. idk how that works because I haven't tried it (or any drug outside of prescribed medications tbh), but I have had tardive dyskinesia before.
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I mean I'm not a doctor though so I could just be talking out of my ass here, take everything I say with a grain of salt lol
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Regardless of what the issue is, all those people shitting on that Fetterman dude sure are quiet now, aren't they? https://twitter.com/gary_kline/status/1670217511030202369
@NoLieWithBTC @patriottakes There is something clearly neurologically wrong with Rep. Paul Gosar. He needs to step down and get himself sorted out. And maybe a psychologist to help him understand that his racist white supremacy leanings is unbefitting a member of US Congress.
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No it isn't.
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After the murder of George Floyd, many MPD officers stopped recording the race of people they pull over, as required by law and policy.
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(minneapolis PD, this is a thread)
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Can't argue with this logic. A supervisor found that some MPD cops' use of force must have been reasonable because if it wasn't reasonable force, they wouldn't have used it.
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The whiter the neighborhood, the fewer traffic stops MPD made for minor offenses. This was true even among neighborhoods with similar accident rates.
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MPD conducts "pretextual" traffic stops of Black and Native American motorists at about six times the rate of white motorists, even though well less than 1 percent of such stops recovered guns (the main justification for conducting them).
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/20/2023 12:52 AM
Conservative podcaster Charlie Kirk dedicated his Monday program to opposing Juneteenth, a holiday commemorating the freeing of slaves in the United States."So it's Juneteenth," Kirk announced at the opening of his show. "Very few people are willing to actually call this out.""It's about a certain s...
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BubsyFanboy 6/20/2023 5:43 AM
#FreeJoeyy💔
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I am so shocked! Must be the liberal cabal hunting us instead of the real pedophiles in the democrat party right? /s
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Every Accusation A confession
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BubsyFanboy 6/20/2023 5:54 AM
BREAKING: MARRIAGE EQUALITY - GAY MARRIAGE BECAME THE LAW OF THE LAND IN ESTONIA AFTER A VOTE OF 55 MPS IN FAVOUR AND 34 AGAINST. GAY MARRIAGE IS NOW LEGAL IN ESTONIA! #Estonia #Riigikogu #LGBT #LGBTQ #PrideMonth #Pride2023 #Pride #gaymarriage #marriageequality
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So Tennessee is pulling records of trans people it appears, and Florida passed their bill to steal trans kids from their families. It really is looking bleak in the South. Fuck.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/20/2023 11:29 AM
shouldn't they just roll him around? christ he's big boned
11:30 AM
he's a "Hell no!" in the fluffy scale!
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MisterStompy 6/20/2023 11:56 AM
NSC-131, a neo nazi group based here in New England, is having a really bad week. Their second in command died and a member was just arrested for participating in the insurrection. The charging docs shows that the feds have an informant within the group. https://t.co/sFY4O5Lppp
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Just learned of the death of a friend. His brothers have put together a funeral fund for the family, there is also a separate place to leave a prayer for free. Goodbye Leo, and thank you for helping me when I needed it. https://t.co/qhaaY5wL4Z
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MisterStompy 6/20/2023 12:32 PM
Recently, we learned Leo has had quite the trouble. After being badly injured in a fight outside a Nashua, NH bar, Leo attacked and threatened healthcare workers trying to treat him, for which he was arrested. He ridiculously tried to file a lawsuit against the hospitals.
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Dude got fucking Heydrich'd
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Survived an attack but refused treatment, then later died of horrible pain from infection. I'm reading it was sepsis.
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MisterStompy 6/20/2023 3:01 PM
Leo Cullinan is said to have died. People are curious to know more about the cause of his death. You will get complete details about the cause of death of Leo
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BubsyFanboy 6/20/2023 4:21 PM
Apparently she’s running for re-election in the EU Parliament Her Twitter banner looks so💀
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/20/2023 4:51 PM
why can i smell the pixels
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MisterStompy 6/20/2023 5:32 PM
I LOVE RIGHT TO REPAIR I LOVE RIGHT TO REPAIR
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/20/2023 5:40 PM
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOO
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FUCKING FINALLY
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NOW MAKE CHARGE PORTS EASILY REPLACABLE
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/20/2023 5:41 PM
everything and anything to bend over apple and fuck them in the ass
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yup
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which, to be fair, Samsung has been a bit more friendly with the option to customize, abet begrudgingly and as such is my phone of choice admittedly, but still this is good
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now apply it to laptops too
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MisterStompy 6/20/2023 5:43 PM
Laws like this will eventually put Apple out of business because so much of their revenue comes from this kind of shit
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/20/2023 5:43 PM
Never in my life do I want to own an I-Shit/I-poor
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yup
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MisterStompy 6/20/2023 5:46 PM
Nah you guys their foray into the VR market is gonna save them, just look at this reasonable price
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/20/2023 5:47 PM
i already thought the standard vr stuff was expensive
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MisterStompy 6/20/2023 6:32 PM
BREAKING: A federal court permanently blocked an Arkansas law that would have banned gender-affirming care for transgender youth, finding the law violates the constitutional rights of transgender youth, their parents, and their medical providers.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/20/2023 11:35 PM
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last thing you should do when entering a corrupt country to do crimes is to claim loud and high you're entering a corrupt country to do crimes
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Survived an attack but refused treatment, then later died of horrible pain from infection. I'm reading it was sepsis.
nice
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I LOVE RIGHT TO REPAIR I LOVE RIGHT TO REPAIR
Common EU W against US megacorps
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EU is faaaaaaar from perfect but its such a fucking step up
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Laws like this will eventually put Apple out of business because so much of their revenue comes from this kind of shit
hopefully printers are next on the chopping block
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how do i talk to someone who things nazi germany was centrist?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/21/2023 9:38 AM
You tell him that he's denser than a block of Osmium and probably needs to do everything from his bed because he can't get up by himself
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/21/2023 9:54 AM
Question
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what in the fuck was disney thinking when they released "Oye primos"
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THEY NAMED ONE OF THE CHARACTERS CUQUITA!?!?
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THE YOUNGEST ONE!?
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MisterStompy 6/21/2023 4:16 PM
At issue was a 2021 Biden administration memo that interpreted a federal anti-discrimination housing law as protecting transgender Americans.
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MisterStompy 6/21/2023 8:28 PM
A feud has been boiling between Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert for months. It finally reached a new level on Wednesday.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/21/2023 9:02 PM
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And that's a fed violation
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Privacy laws
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Especially given trans care bans are being set up to be fed repealed
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BubsyFanboy 6/22/2023 9:36 AM
All main opposition parties - most of whom have leaders who are practising Catholics - support ending the current near-total abortion ban.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/22/2023 3:42 PM
Who thought it was a good idea to put Pride zebra crossings
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LouisiAnarchist 6/22/2023 4:31 PM
Liberation Theology is the natural endpoint of 3rd wave ska. It's possible I have that backwards.
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Late but very interesting article
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/22/2023 4:37 PM
I just realized i misread that
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i thought it said that those who voted against
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i feel
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stupid
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deeply stupid
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/22/2023 4:41 PM
imma just
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/23/2023 2:41 AM
The right-wing network has been caught engaging in high unethical behavior.
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AvoidOblivion 6/23/2023 12:00 PM
I don’t exactly know where to put this, so I’ll put it here.
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Lmfao
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/23/2023 8:40 PM
After months of negotiations, the IBEW’s Railroad members at four of the largest U.S. freight carriers finally have what they’ve long sought but that many working people take for granted: paid sick days.
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MisterStompy 6/24/2023 1:04 AM
Apparently the unions are thanking Biden because he continued to work outside of the spotlight https://twitter.com/DeLoach_NC/status/1672070514792079361
The far left roasted Biden for not getting rail workers sick days in initial negotiations when the national supply chain was on the line. But long after the far left stopped caring because it was no longer trending, Biden was still working, and in the end he won for workers.
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Joe Biden: Union Thug
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I mean I wouldn't call your average Union worker "far left" though, guy posting the Tweet is a bit of an ass
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AvoidOblivion 6/24/2023 8:25 AM
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“Disorderly Conduct,” and “Miscellaneous.” $910 bond.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/24/2023 8:29 AM
Certain people don't deserve bail
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MisterStompy 6/24/2023 10:23 AM
"All Cops Are Bastards" mfs when Sheriff Mike Chitwood walks into the room:
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Yes I know he's one of the few exceptions to the rule, I just think it's a funny meme
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Apparently the unions are thanking Biden because he continued to work outside of the spotlight https://twitter.com/DeLoach_NC/status/1672070514792079361
I get it. The strong left narrative was criticizing biden to do the right thing. Loudly representing. Don’t dismiss “the left” for doing this good steer though, and recognize too that what 🔥 biden actually was doing here that is now revealed will be celebrated by the left. He was on the side of the union negotiators, on this one bolt. He just might have had a hell of a fight to loosen the grip that the Norfolk Southern bosses kept. (edited)
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"All Cops Are Bastards" mfs when Sheriff Mike Chitwood walks into the room:
DevilTheAutopoet 6/24/2023 3:06 PM
Sheriffs and Sheriffs' Departments are a bit different from regular police organisations. Sheriffs are elected officials, who usually are required to live in the areas they serve. Thus, Sheriffs' Departments tend to have much more of a connection to the communities they serve than regular police do. It's still far from a perfect system, but it's a lot better than PD's.
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It's also a much older system, with its history having roots in certain town and city guard systems going back to at least the middle ages, with said systems originally being implemented to help protect townsfolk from dangerous animals and from being ransacked by warlords and their mercenary thugs. Whereas modern police departments have their origins with slave-catching bounty hunters in the antebellum South.
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Sheriffs and Sheriffs' Departments are a bit different from regular police organisations. Sheriffs are elected officials, who usually are required to live in the areas they serve. Thus, Sheriffs' Departments tend to have much more of a connection to the communities they serve than regular police do. It's still far from a perfect system, but it's a lot better than PD's.
to be fair, historically, sheriffs being elected officials was to combat corruption. However it lead to problems of Sheriffs using their elected status to terrorize mayors into doing what they want (see Seattle and Chicago)
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(ironically, some cities, chicago being the biggest, are using the police corruption fuckery as a way to clean up their neighborhood so they don't need cops)
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sheriffs could work in a smaller town with strong oversight and numerous removal options, but the current system is at best outdated, at worse, very prone to abuse
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and I make it a point to make sure I vote for the less fucked up person in elections for Sheriff
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MisterStompy 6/25/2023 12:53 PM
Proud Boys get into fight with the "Rose City Nationalists" https://twitter.com/ErikIsland3/status/1672804440456466432
Proud Boys beating Nazi ass in Oregon City!!!% POYB !!!% F Rose City Nationalist F Patriot Front !!!% this is Patriot Territory 👌
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/25/2023 12:57 PM
let them fight
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MisterStompy 6/25/2023 1:32 PM
@ErikIsland3 Proud Boys are cowards who attacked peaceful activists who showed up to hand out literature exposing the homosexual agenda. Proud Boys in Portland don’t care about protecting children from the homosexual agenda, they just want to get drunk, do coke and fight.
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MisterStompy 6/25/2023 1:45 PM
Proud boys beating the shit out of nazi inbred punks Rose City Nationals!!!% POYB!!!%
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AvoidOblivion 6/25/2023 1:55 PM
Infighting among the scum? This should be entertaining.
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Infighting among the scum? This should be entertaining.
MisterStompy 6/25/2023 1:55 PM
Like I said in VC if all the Proud Boys did was snort coke, drink booze and fight each other I wouldn't give two shits about them
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Go ahead and get blitzed, my issue with them is all the terrorism and shit, like when they swarmed DC and started randomly beating black people and tearing up black churches.
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MisterStompy 6/25/2023 2:13 PM
Okay guys, funniest fucking plot twist just dropped
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Guess who the leader of the Rose City Nationalists is?
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Casey James Knuteson, a Proud Boy
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Hearing word that the fight got started because the RCNC swung first https://twitter.com/Johnnthelefty/status/1672759664537374720
#ProudBoy that I believe was Daryl or Dylan Johnson is casing the Pride event on a scooter. I said your boys chased out RCN huh? He confirmed it was because RCN "started a fight" not because they were Nazis. 2/ https://t.co/zYCUjwdnNf
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Edit: It was started because Casey left the Proud Boys https://twitter.com/Johnnthelefty/status/1672839421014716417
Close up of #ProudBoys fucking up the Nazis. PBs obviously instigated this, and I'm not mad about it. RCN sure is quiet today. You can hear one PB yell "you're a fa**ot Casey, talk shit about me now". Casey is a former PB.
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Okay so mainstream conservatives and leftists are working together to dox these guys after they got beaten up, this is so wholesome https://twitter.com/Johnnthelefty/status/1673009365220208640
Rose City Nationalists holding each other after getting messed up
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Bronx Conservative to JohnTheLefty: "LET'S EXPOSE THEIR NAZI TIES!"
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MisterStompy 6/25/2023 3:17 PM
Casey Knuteson as both a Proud Boy (left) and a Rose City Nationalist (right)
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DevilTheAutopoet 6/25/2023 3:29 PM
Hey, why they dragging punks into this?
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Infighting among the scum? This should be entertaining.
BubsyFanboy 6/25/2023 4:15 PM
Should make up for at least a 100th of the Wagner's putsch ending so abruptly and quickly
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/25/2023 5:01 PM
cmooooon, let me pimp slap her
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A good reminder, even thouh this is the chior. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/top-9-lies-that-big-corporations-tell/
Corporations (especially big ones) often seem to be pathological liars. Here are the most obvious falsehoods that most of them tell their employees.
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The populist AfD party has won a district council election for the first time with Robert Sesselmann elected in Sonneberg. This was despite all other parties urging their supporters to vote for the other candidate.
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AfD is leading the polls in Thuringia, Saxony and Brandenburg, with regional elections later this year...
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brandenburg sitll polling the same as last time its more of the collapse of other parties but it shouldnt increases their seats share
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Assuming they even remain in power, given Germany is making the moves to ban AfD
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MisterStompy 6/26/2023 12:36 PM
Guys, guess who just came out against the unfair advantage trans women would have in sports? https://twitter.com/lancearmstrong/status/1672775272217849856
Is there not a world in which one can be supportive of the transgender community and curious about the fairness of Trans athletes in sport yet not be labeled a transphobe or a bigot as we ask questions? Do we yet know the answers? And do we even want to know the answers?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/26/2023 1:19 PM
mr drugs
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thought i'd never see him again
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It wouldn't be negative in any way to ask that question if he wasn't such a crappy athlete.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/26/2023 2:42 PM
yep
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It wouldn't be negative in any way to ask that question if he wasn't such a crappy athlete.
AvoidOblivion 6/26/2023 3:18 PM
Indeed. Asking a question out of pure curiosity, with only a craving to learn and no ulterior motives, is never a bad thing; asking with dark intentions at heart will only hurt.
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MisterStompy 6/26/2023 3:55 PM
Looks like Bud Light saw how well Target did after they gave in to terroristic demands. https://twitter.com/GrahamAllen_1/status/1673103945013637126
Bud Light has not learned a thing.
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Bud light has embraced the gay in spite
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which, eh, valid for a corpo
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MisterStompy 6/26/2023 5:48 PM
HEY THERE HI THERE HO THERE YOU'RE AS WELCOME AS CAN BE M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E
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BubsyFanboy 6/27/2023 9:50 AM
A US institute alleges it lost 25 years of work because a man wanted to stop "annoying" alarms.
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BubsyFanboy 6/27/2023 10:39 AM
Declassified negotiations between US President George W. Bush and Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk; fragments regarding anti-missile shield
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MisterStompy 6/27/2023 12:08 PM
I was pretty sure this was gonna be the outcome, but still. https://twitter.com/DemocracyDocket/status/1673697414765592579 (edited)
BREAKING: U.S. Supreme Court issues decision in Moore v. Harper. The Court rejects the independent state legislature theory, ruling that state courts have the power to review election laws and maps enacted by state legislatures. https://t.co/g6UJySp48L
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I was pretty sure this was gonna be the outcome, but still. https://twitter.com/DemocracyDocket/status/1673697414765592579 (edited)
Not suprised too. What I am surprised was that it was 6-3 against
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MisterStompy 6/27/2023 4:06 PM
Okay so yes, his position is unreasonable but also he sounds like utter DOGSHIT. Biden is like 20 years older than him and is much more legible. https://twitter.com/billmaher/status/1673391336802893824
Is @RobertFKennedyJr's position on vaccines that unreasonable?
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Also Bill Maher is a dumbshit, don't listen to him on really anything.
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I was pretty sure this was gonna be the outcome, but still. https://twitter.com/DemocracyDocket/status/1673697414765592579 (edited)
DevilTheAutopoet 6/27/2023 11:51 PM
I think this is the best national news I've heard this week. Possibly this month. Gooddamn I'm so fucking glad they rejected that bullshit. (edited)
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Braakinthesaddle 6/28/2023 12:32 PM
I have a lot of questions about that. Like, how many people did they ask in each country? What are the socio-economic statuses of the people polled? What occupations do they have? The answers to questions like those would have an impact on the validity and generalizability of that study.
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I have a lot of questions about that. Like, how many people did they ask in each country? What are the socio-economic statuses of the people polled? What occupations do they have? The answers to questions like those would have an impact on the validity and generalizability of that study.
BubsyFanboy 6/28/2023 12:39 PM
I dug up their methodology site https://www.pewresearch.org/methods/interactives/international-methodology/all-survey/all-country/all-year/ Most of it appears to be the standard 1,000 people sample. I'm pretty sure the socio-economic statuses and occupations vary wildly.
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Someone did make the comment as to why Poland has such a favorable view to the United States of America:
Poland is a country to which the US has never done anything wrong and even helped in many situations. Poland is also not yet at the stage where the US would be an economic rival - because Poland is much lower in the value added chain, Americans live from innovation/design, we rather from production, or we introduce our solutions in some niches.
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Braakinthesaddle 6/28/2023 12:50 PM
It helps to know those data points for sure. I try to keep a healthy skepticism of most studies, esp. opinion studies like that. It's too easy for them to be spun into propaganda pieces. Not saying that is occurring here, but I've seen it before.
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DevilTheAutopoet 6/28/2023 2:24 PM
This seems like a somewhat cherrypicked list...
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It helps to know those data points for sure. I try to keep a healthy skepticism of most studies, esp. opinion studies like that. It's too easy for them to be spun into propaganda pieces. Not saying that is occurring here, but I've seen it before.
BubsyFanboy 6/28/2023 2:54 PM
And that's only fair
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Heck, I myself was offered a supposed study about how puberty blockers are supposedly irreversible (edited)
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I could've taken it at face value
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But I chose not to
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I looked who made it
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And in their About page it turned out to be an anti-trans/anti-NB think tank behind it
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And in their About page it turned out to be an anti-trans/anti-NB think tank behind it
Braakinthesaddle 6/28/2023 3:03 PM
I wish I was surprised tbh...
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Good on ya for using a little critical thinking. It's always good to ask questions like that.
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Good on ya for using a little critical thinking. It's always good to ask questions like that.
BubsyFanboy 6/28/2023 3:35 PM
Yeah. That and if it were a legitimate study then why has no major American medical association publicly expressed that they're reconsidering their views on puberty blocker medicine.
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I pointed it out and got short, unfounded cop-out responses "money" or "sweet summer child".
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In general though, I'm beginning to see some things are going wrong in r/worldnews
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My recent activity's getting downvoted more often. First by transphobes and now seemingly by Xi stans when I questioned how long the NZ-China ties will last.
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In general though, I'm beginning to see some things are going wrong in r/worldnews
Braakinthesaddle 6/28/2023 3:40 PM
Ah Reddit, that bastion of critical thinking and reasonable takes (he says on Discord)...
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My recent activity's getting downvoted more often. First by transphobes and now seemingly by Xi stans when I questioned how long the NZ-China ties will last.
Braakinthesaddle 6/28/2023 3:41 PM
Yea the brigading has gotten worse since the whole 3rd party apps/API controversy started.
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Yea the brigading has gotten worse since the whole 3rd party apps/API controversy started.
BubsyFanboy 6/28/2023 3:42 PM
So far it's been an awkward mixed bag of (presumably) Polish nationalists, transphobes and CCP defendants.
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And mind you, Poles aren't fans of China as much, so the fact that I'm getting this regardless tells me it's mostly seperate communities (edited)
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Maybe that or it's just trolls, who knows (edited)
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MisterStompy 6/28/2023 9:21 PM
I LOVE THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION I LOVE THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/1674190379048992768
BREAKING: A federal judge has blocked a Tennessee law banning gender-affirming care for trans youth. Every federal court so far has blocked or rejected these bans as discriminatory and dangerous.
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Elward, the officer accused of shooting Jenkins, was previously involved in the death of Damien Cameron.
A grand jury declined to indict Elward last year, citing a lack of evidence.
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MisterStompy 6/29/2023 12:48 PM
Heartbreaking: The Worst Person You Know Just Made A Great Point https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1674437508262768640
Sorry to the say it but the Desantis campaign was dead on arrival and it’s time to admit it. Tons of mistakes. Needed to be more upfront about his intention to run. Doesn’t come across as honest and he’s boring. (You can say it shouldn’t matter but it does). He also needed…
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Although I wouldn't say DeSantis is "boring", he's interesting but not in a good way
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He's like that headless chicken that they kept alive for a few months. He's an anomaly. A curiosity.
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MisterStompy 6/29/2023 4:01 PM
I imagine that Matt Walsh absolutely blames Jews for all of society's ills, but as long as he works for Ben Shaprio he can't say that out loud. https://twitter.com/Esqueer_/status/1672207296770760705
Matt Walsh named a bunch of Jewish doctors as being pedophiles and nazis who invented trans people. His neo nazi followers were upset because he didn't actually "name the Jew" and explicitly denounce the Jews. Even Matt Walsh isn't transphobic enough for these people.
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MisterStompy 6/29/2023 5:18 PM
CW: Violence, gunfire, death Here's bodycam footage of a cop mercing the Allen, TX shooter. If only he was at Uvalde and Parkland, too. https://twitter.com/buddy_broussard/status/1674176909092036608 (edited)
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Also notable in that the Allen shooter was a Neo Nazi, and a black guy dropped him.
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America is part socialist, and he is anti american
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/29/2023 11:26 PM
Welcome to the PolitiScales, the online political test. You will be confronted to a series of affirmations and for each of them you will have to click on the button which corresponds the most to your opinion.
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AvoidOblivion 6/30/2023 10:28 AM
r/Palestine being blatantly anti-semitic.
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AvoidOblivion 6/30/2023 10:35 AM
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/rcna68629/
The justices, divided 6-3, said that Lorie Smith, as a creative professional, has a free speech right under the Constitution’s First Amendment to refuse to endorse messages she disagrees with. As a result, she cannot be punished under Colorado’s antidiscrimination law for refusing to design websites for gay couples, the court said.
The court issued a major ruling on whether businesses can refuse to sell certain products and services if they disagree with the message the customer wishes to convey.
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A climate activist in New Zealand faces 10 years in jail after a court found her guilty of forgery for sending a fake letter to the speakers at an oil industry conference, telling them it had been postponed due to the climate crisis.
10:37 AM
Wtf
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AvoidOblivion 6/30/2023 10:39 AM
"Lobbying."
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/30/2023 12:14 PM
Sick flag bro
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12:49 PM
there's a lot of flawed questions on that one, i've been doing it for years lol
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like the "hormone differences between men and women", if you ever met a trans person on HRT you'll know there is a difference lol
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/30/2023 12:52 PM
lol
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yeah
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and yet if you say "there are differences" it classes you in essentialism, which is a bit stupid
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same with the GMO questions, GMOs are GOOD. How they are used however is a different question
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/30/2023 12:53 PM
Eh, no test is perfect tbh
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SCOTUS is speed running how to get your ass Marshall'd
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/30/2023 2:24 PM
Imma be completely real with ya'll Fuck civility, if you got a problem with someone, confront them head on
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well yes
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I'm more partial to ruining a fash's life
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MisterStompy 6/30/2023 9:19 PM
Okay so I did some reading into the statements of the majority on the discrimination ruling and it looks like in theory it simply says that businesses don't have to CREATE something for someone, not that they have a right to flat out refuse to serve someone, that being said there will be more court cases related to this wherein people try to refuse service to someone for being gay or Jewish or trans, etc. as a direct result of this ruling. Now nother issue is that you have to understand that obviously multiple justices are not acting with impartiality here, they're doing stuff based on religious or personal beliefs, not on the law. (edited)
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In theory as somebody who supports free markets without government interference outside of consumer protection (IE punishing false advertising) I don't have any problem with the ruling whatsoever as it stands in the sense that they don't have to make somebody for something, as in refusing to sell somebody something. In a perfect America, civil services such as healthcare, public transportaiton, schools, etc. would not be allowed to discriminate and would be forced to serve any citizen because everyone pays for it, right? Private businesses would be exempt from that and thus if they really really wanted to go out of business they could hang a sign that says "No Irish Or Dogs" (edited)
9:22 PM
My issue is that there are absolutely justices on the court who didn't do this because they support free speech and free markets, but because they want this to snowball into legal discrimination against the LGBT
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MisterStompy 6/30/2023 9:30 PM
Roberts and Thomas are both taking bribes so neither of their opinions on anything can be trusted as impartial regardless of how they rule. Thomas is most certainly just ruling things based on personal beliefs as during the Roe V Wade opinion he explicitly stated he was gonna go after everything from birth control to gay marriage but stopped just short of interracial marriage because he's in an interracial marriage. Barret is another beast entirely because she's part of a Christian sect that demands a wife's total obedience to the husband, so she isn't actually making any of the decisions she votes on, her husband is.
9:31 PM
As far as Kavanaugh goes the guy's a total prick but idk about any corruption atm
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MisterStompy 6/30/2023 9:43 PM
Also yeah, as much as I talk about how much I love the free market and I like the idea of racists just going out of business (and these days they usually do becuase word travels fast), there's a story about a guy back in the late 1800's who set up shop outside of a reservation and refused to sell Native Americans food. He would just tell them to eat grass instead. He went missing for a while and nobody knew where he went, so the cops went looking for him and they found him in his store. His corpse was on the floor, mutilated almost beyond recognition and somebody had shoved a bunch of grass up his ass.
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Now would I personally kill that guy and shove grass up his ass? Well, maybe not, but I do think it's very funny that somebody killed him and shoved grass up his ass and I'm glad the people who did it never got caught.
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And if I ever met the people who killed the guy and shoved grass up his ass, I certainly wouldn't tell police about it.
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Not because I'm afraid of retaliation but because it was really funny and I appreciate a good joke more than anything else.
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DevilTheAutopoet 6/30/2023 9:49 PM
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/30/2023 9:52 PM
hello my fellow equality•humanity•socialism guy
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hello my fellow equality•humanity•socialism guy
DevilTheAutopoet 6/30/2023 9:53 PM
I think everyone so far has gotten those three values, just in different orders.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/30/2023 9:53 PM
lol
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 7/1/2023 4:30 AM
The Indiana Supreme Court on Friday upheld a law banning nearly all abortions in the state, lifting a lower court order that had blocked the law in response to a lawsuit by Planned Parenthood and other abortion providers.
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Indiana You share a border with Chicago
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TBH Illinois should do what CA is doing, making their own state owned Phrama And flood the state with abortants
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Fugitive abortion act will definitely be a thing I think
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Reminder, preventing a kidnapping is a stand your ground law
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MisterStompy 7/1/2023 12:13 PM
Looks like the Supreme Court is flat out refusing to hear most trans related cases which is... good I guess? Better than them hearing them and ruling in the favor of bigoted tyrants https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/u-s-supreme-court-won-t-weigh-gender-dysphoria-s-status-under-disability-law/ar-AA1dgA9u?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=1f922a50124c44f2820f5357ffc3c7c7&ei=14 (edited)
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That and I suspect they're trying to avoid another Roe backlash
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Which won't help em because they keep making enemies that isn't a Nat C
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But they're like Ok let's NOT have our neighbors try to fucking get us killed
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AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
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Man just fucked Twitter hard
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Twitter being rationed is incredibly based
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They should have a message pop up when you reach the limit that just says "Go Outside"
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 7/1/2023 5:43 PM
Hot take, but there was 1 (ONE!) good cop, and he was murdered by corporate thugs
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 7/1/2023 7:36 PM
Yes, he was very heroic when he shot his lawyer's daughter in the face.
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Yes, he was very heroic when he shot his lawyer's daughter in the face.
MisterStompy 7/1/2023 7:36 PM
I'm not being serious
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 7/1/2023 7:36 PM
You'd be surprised how many folks are.
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MisterStompy 7/1/2023 7:37 PM
I'll delete it just in case, then
7:40 PM
My friend had a shirt that says "Don't shoot, I'm not Christopher Dorner!"
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MisterStompy 7/1/2023 8:24 PM
Wait a minute, has there been any legislature put forward to add LGBT people to the civil right's act?
8:24 PM
That would counter any wider damage from the Supreme Court's latest ruling
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I mean...that one cop who incidentally was a trump supporter yet realized J6 attacks was a coup attempted and tried to stop the mob, only to be violently beaten to death is probably moderately alright, if in a sad poor bastard way (edited)
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Wait a minute, has there been any legislature put forward to add LGBT people to the civil right's act?
I think it is already or in the process of numerous states?
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I think it is already or in the process of numerous states?
MisterStompy 7/1/2023 11:43 PM
Nah I mean federal
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I mean...that one cop who incidentally was a trump supporter yet realized J6 attacks was a coup attempted and tried to stop the mob, only to be violently beaten to death is probably moderately alright, if in a sad poor bastard way (edited)
MisterStompy 7/1/2023 11:44 PM
There were several cops that killd themselves in the days following J6 and it's widely believed that they were Trump supporters. What they saw that day just crushed their psyche.
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Or were in on it
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Or somehow both
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Like a mixture of both
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It's a start. I argue the Proud boys deserve jailtime considering the intention to harm a predominantly black church alone is a hate crime red flag, but it's a start
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AvoidOblivion 7/2/2023 8:03 PM
This was most definitely a targeted attack.
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MisterStompy 7/2/2023 9:06 PM
Geovanny Villalba-Aleman, 24, is international student who recently graduated from University of Waterloo
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A Nike store, an ATM, and a molotov into a Safeway.
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Lame.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 7/3/2023 2:33 PM
A Howard County judge on Tuesday sentenced a former chief of police to consecutive life sentences in prison for a string of targeted arson fires.
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He retired then tried to burn down the house of the new police chief
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Why the fuck would you care about the new guy if you're retired?
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And now they're prob digging into stuff from when he was chief looking to see if he abused his power, at least I hope they are
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 7/3/2023 10:48 PM
By Stephanie Saul
After the Supreme Court banned race-conscious affirmative action, activists filed a complaint, saying legacy admissions helped students who are overwhelmingly rich and white.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/3/2023 11:06 PM
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Get rid of legacy admissions
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BubsyFanboy 7/4/2023 1:51 AM
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MisterStompy 7/4/2023 7:40 PM
Okay I still despise communism but I think I might have found a communist party that's pretty chill
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The Japanese Communist Party are wacky as fuck and I can't help but love them despite everything
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Virgin Chinese Communist Party: Ethnonationalist Militaristic and Expansionist Anti LGBT Basically just fascist at this point Chad Japanese Communist Party: Funny anime girl Sick techno beats Anti racist Pro gay
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Virgin Chinese Communist Party: Ethnonationalist Militaristic and Expansionist Anti LGBT Basically just fascist at this point Chad Japanese Communist Party: Funny anime girl Sick techno beats Anti racist Pro gay
To add to that Chad list: DOESN'T DO A VIOLENT REVOLUTION THAT KILLS MILLIONS OF PEOPLE
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MisterStompy 7/4/2023 7:45 PM
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To add to that Chad list: DOESN'T DO A VIOLENT REVOLUTION THAT KILLS MILLIONS OF PEOPLE
MisterStompy 7/4/2023 7:45 PM
I mean they did get violent for a while there was a Japanese communist terrorist group that did really really bad things
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But sick techno beats and the funny anime girl make up for it, all is forgiven
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True. The Japanese red army faction. But there's a reason why the JCP didn't want a violent revolution and the crackdown on the Communist hardliners was exactly the reason why
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MisterStompy 7/4/2023 7:51 PM
Okay I looked up the rest of their policies and they're more or less in between democratic socialism and left communism which is... not the worst.
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Still, least worst communists counts for a lot in my mind.
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MisterStompy 7/5/2023 12:22 PM
Oh my GOD somebody fucking shut down The Young Turks already
12:23 PM
I wish the "trans movement" was half as violent as people like her say it was because if anybody is deserving of the violent oppression they delude themselves into thinking they suffer, it's the current wave of transphobes.
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The civil rights movement was non violent as a warning. A lot of people forget that King and X, while they disagreed on a LOT of shit, none the less had each other's back
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Attack King's protestors, the Panthers come into town
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2pm Central Europe Time is 8am Eastern Standard Time -correct?
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While world democracies squabble, Putin and his deranged philosopher are plotting to bring about an autocratic world order
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 7/5/2023 5:48 PM
Attorney Lin Wood, who filed legal challenges seeking to overturn Donald Trump’s 2020 election loss, is relinquishing his law license, electing to retire from practicing rather than face possible disbarment.
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A new Senate report calls out the FBI for lying to Congress about its social media monitoring, pointing out the FBI’s hiring of ZeroFox.
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vitaminWee 7/6/2023 5:47 PM
What they call “surveillance” is interference on the democratic process, on the people & with their taxes
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/6/2023 8:30 PM
HAH
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 7/6/2023 8:34 PM
Florida's Brevard Public School District board banned attire mimicking "non-human characteristics," a move associated with concern about "furries."
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/6/2023 8:35 PM
THE FURRIES ARE UNDER ATTACK
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more like Florida gonna get the assfuck of the century
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/6/2023 8:36 PM
yes
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Furries who can afford these things are fucking powerfull
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Once again I bring this out as a Art nerd
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Doxxers
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At least they’re kinda desperate it’s looking super bad for Trump
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and about to get slapped with threatening legal officals
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which is a felony in most states
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 7/7/2023 8:09 PM
Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin’s (R) administration recently pulled resources for LGBTQ youth from the state’s Department of Health website, after receiving an inquiry from a conservative outlet, acc…
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The Republican attorney general in Kansas is asking a state court to block transgender residents from changing their sex on their driver's licenses.
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Aces high
Summon the femboys
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BubsyFanboy 7/8/2023 5:48 AM
The resignation of Prime Minister Mark Rutte, the longest-serving premier of the nation, means the country will face a general election later this year. Rutte and his government will remain in office in a caretaker capacity until a new ruling coalition is chosen.
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TRUMP: When I return to office, the travel ban is coming back. The United States will not be condemned to the same fate as France" https://t.co/3JOhM9jQPZ
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This guy sounds like McCarthry.
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He was friends with red scare mccarthy’s lawyer
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The travel ban was shit
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Let's see, where have foreign terrorists that have attacked America came from? Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Lebanon, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, maybe Qatar (edited)
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none of which are affected by travel ban
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so who did it affect? Nigeria, Myanmar, Kyrgyzstan, Iran, Eritrea
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Syria, Yemen
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but for those countries, you could enter the US so long as you're not trying to immigrate. Got a business, tourist or student visa? You're allowed in.
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Some travel ban.
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He was friends with red scare mccarthy’s lawyer
AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/8/2023 8:54 PM
i find it funny that trumpers love to shit on biden for being old, which, fair i guess, But you shouldn't be able to say shit when you where friends with fucking Joseph R. McCarthy's lawyer
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It was just an immigration ban for Iran, Syria and half-dozen random African and Asian countries (edited)
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where anti-American terrorists have never came from so far
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i find it funny that trumpers love to shit on biden for being old, which, fair i guess, But you shouldn't be able to say shit when you where friends with fucking Joseph R. McCarthy's lawyer
Oldest presidents: 1. Biden 2. Trump 3. Reagan
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Trump isn't even that much younger
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He's just less dementia-y
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More just narcissistic and egoistical
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i find it funny that trumpers love to shit on biden for being old, which, fair i guess, But you shouldn't be able to say shit when you where friends with fucking Joseph R. McCarthy's lawyer
Irony being that lawyer became famous and got his big break from making sure the rosenbergs were executed for leaking classified docs to the soviets. You’d think Trump woulda figured to take that seriously
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Lmfao
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/8/2023 8:57 PM
lmao
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/8/2023 9:02 PM
Trump throwing united states inner stability in 2016
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 7/9/2023 1:12 PM
The bill will reportedly apply to suspects in crimes that are punishable by a minimum of five years in jail.
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suddenly faraday bag sells go way up
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AvoidOblivion 7/9/2023 9:10 PM
Cops being cops. https://www.reddit.com/r/NorthCarolina/comments/14v4las/high_point_police_department_shoots_family_dog_4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1 Cop shoots a family’s dog four times after being called about a “problem dog” that lived four houses away. The murdered dog was doing nothing wrong.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/9/2023 9:23 PM
cops killing dogs is such a universal thing
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i hate it
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Tispy musings time, "The problem with Justice in America is that it's slower than a tortoise with a bum leg."
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BubsyFanboy 7/10/2023 8:22 AM
Russia’s first transgender politician Yulia Alyoshina has announced that she will not run for governor as she had planned earlier. She failed to get the support of municipal deputies because of the new law banning “sex change”. https://t.co/mlDcBEFsPX
Russia’s first transgender politician and former head of the Altai branch of the Civic Initiative Party, Yulia Alyoshina, has announced that she will not run for governor as she had planned earlier.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/10/2023 9:22 AM
in all fairness, she'd probably be killed if she tried, I don't blame her for pulling ouy
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where was the abortion held? Because while cops are assholes, this will lead to shit like Telegram getting a foothold
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and fash like telegram
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/10/2023 5:08 PM
GIMME GIMME GIMME A NATO BY MIDNIGHT
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WONT SOMEBODY HELP ME DRIVE THE RUSSIANS AWAY
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GIMME.GIMME GIMME A NATO BY MIDNIGHT
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/10/2023 10:58 PM
J aubrey my beloved 😍
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The world's need for fossil fuels is "desperate", Shell's chief executive told the BBC.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 7/11/2023 10:01 AM
A state-court judge has ordered Kansas to stop allowing transgender people to change the listing for sex on their driver’s licenses.
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MisterStompy 7/11/2023 11:25 AM
Today marks the anniversary of the beginning of one of the deadliest chapters in the Bosnian genocide and the Yugoslav wars, the Srebrenica massacre. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre
The Srebrenica massacre (Serbo-Croatian: Masakr u Srebrenici / Масакр у Сребреници), also known as the Srebrenica genocide (Serbo-Croatian: Genocid u Srebrenici / Геноцид у Сребреници), was the July 1995 genocidal killing of more than 8,000 Bosniak Muslim men and boys in and around the town of Srebrenica, during the Bosnian War.The killings were...
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Both the Bosnian and Albanian genocides at the hands of the Serbian military are far too often forgotten by most people.
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Or if you're Chomsky, excused away
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MisterStompy 7/11/2023 4:43 PM
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/11/2023 4:46 PM
Lmfao
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/11/2023 4:57 PM
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MisterStompy 7/11/2023 5:01 PM
Dylan Mulvaney has a higher favorability rating (50%) than Florida Governor Ron DeSantis (32%)
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MisterStompy 7/11/2023 5:02 PM
I'm still not entirely sure who Dylan Mulvaney is.
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I mean she must be cool though if she pissed off all the right people
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/11/2023 5:07 PM
Still a big hypocrite though
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if i was a two bit gangster er, I mean politician, I would not put up some shitty façade
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I'm still not entirely sure who Dylan Mulvaney is.
Wasn't she the one that bud light hired for promoting equality and inclusion?
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Wasn't she the one that bud light hired for promoting equality and inclusion?
MisterStompy 7/11/2023 10:32 PM
I guess they didn't actually hire her, just sent her a custom beer can
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I guess they didn't actually hire her, just sent her a custom beer can
trans influencer. they sent her a pride only can (along with other lgbta focused influencers) and GOP fuckheads tried to boycot...terribly
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MisterStompy 7/11/2023 11:45 PM
Florida state Representative Fabian Basabe has also been arrested for drunk driving, and accused of calling people the n-word and “a sand negro.”
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judicial proteste in israel continue
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and holy shit they are getting creative
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i brouse the israel subreddit to see news on the protests now (edited)
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its the thing ive been following in thr backround for a while
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BubsyFanboy 7/12/2023 10:26 AM
✅ Yes! We pushed back EPP’s boycott of the #NatureRestorationLaw ✊ The majority of MEPs have not been deceived by EPP's half-truths. The misleading tactics of Manfred Weber have failed. The 🇪🇺 Parliament must seize this chance to stand up for nature and biodiversity.
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WE DID IT! We won the battle to save our biodiversity and our climate. This fight for #NatureRestorationLaw shows that everyone who believes in a future for nature is connected, organised & not giving up lightly. Together, we'll keep on mobilising to protect climate & nature.
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BubsyFanboy 7/12/2023 10:29 AM
I'd laugh, but I'd prefer to just not let such people enter politics. Not state ones anyway.
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I feel like sexual harassment should be a good enough reason to bar you from any real office.
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MisterStompy 7/12/2023 1:59 PM
Okay hold the fuck on
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 7/12/2023 2:01 PM
He constantly looks like he just shit his pants.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/12/2023 2:35 PM
I want to beat him with a baseball bat
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I want to atomize that c--t
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/12/2023 2:39 PM
wouldn't it be really really funny if we poured gold down his throat
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The Crassus approach (edited)
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BubsyFanboy 7/12/2023 3:47 PM
Young Italians object to the acquittal of a school caretaker who admitted groping a teenage student.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/12/2023 3:56 PM
WHAT
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Okay hold the fuck on
That is like asking Jeffery Dahmer, how to not eat people.
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AvoidOblivion 7/13/2023 7:34 AM
Trump isn’t looking good. Perhaps the stress of knowing that he committed treason and is on trial for it is reaching him.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/13/2023 8:21 AM
Good lord he looks older than biden
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Sen. Tommy Tuberville, R-Ala., who has blocked hundreds of military nominations over the Pentagon's abortion policies, spoke to Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin Thursday.
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Now the fascists are starting to get in the way of the military
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so much for supporting our troops
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They only say that to sound patriotic
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so much for supporting our troops
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 7/13/2023 4:55 PM
Oh they support them being used as cannon fodder in Wall Street's pointless wars.
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They should have Force Recon raid Tuberville's office lmao
But they pull this shit quietly all the time and when you show their supporters, they don't believe or care
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 7/14/2023 12:02 AM
This fucking troglodyte
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This fucking troglodyte
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 7/14/2023 1:01 AM
It really pisses me off how they appropriate leftist language.
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I see two politicians about to piss off the MIC
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badly
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very badly
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More of Marge being useless.
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BubsyFanboy 7/14/2023 8:27 AM
The Russian State Duma has passed a law banning gender reassignment in the final reading.
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Trump isn’t looking good. Perhaps the stress of knowing that he committed treason and is on trial for it is reaching him.
BubsyFanboy 7/14/2023 8:27 AM
Nah, it's just him lacking makeup.
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MisterStompy 7/14/2023 11:47 AM
Why
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MisterStompy 7/14/2023 11:48 AM
Republicans took huge inspiration from Russia's "anti gay propaganda" laws. It only makes sense that they'd follow along with this as well.
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thats exactly what i thought, " help Floridians during emergencies" my ass he just wants his own little army
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And if that artical is anything to go by it's not going well
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nothing Ron dose goes well
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 7/14/2023 5:31 PM
Considering what they go through in boot camp, one has to wonder how bad it was for them to see the training and think "This is going way too far.".
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Considering what they go through in boot camp, one has to wonder how bad it was for them to see the training and think "This is going way too far.".
I have an answer: very
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Considering what they go through in boot camp, one has to wonder how bad it was for them to see the training and think "This is going way too far.".
They were called out by a disabled retired Marine Corp Captain. When a Marine is calling you out, something is definitely wrong.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/14/2023 8:31 PM
whats something the rich do that makes you wanna guillotine them even more, me personally, poverty tourism
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Yachts
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I can appreciate a good boat but yachts are just obnoxious
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And excessive
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You’re either on a boat or in a house pick one geez
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Wait I didn’t consider house boats
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Oh well
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Why
joe hill’s revenge 7/14/2023 10:58 PM
Did he do it?
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They were called out by a disabled retired Marine Corp Captain. When a Marine is calling you out, something is definitely wrong.
MisterStompy 7/14/2023 10:59 PM
Tankies: EVERY AMERICAN VETERAN IS A FASCIST THAT MUST BE PUBLICLY EXECUTED! American Veterans: Guys this militia seems extremely fascist and I cannot in good consience become part of it.
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joe hill’s revenge 7/14/2023 11:08 PM
I can’t believe they are doing this blatant fascism and Biden hasn’t done anything to stop it
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I can’t believe they are doing this blatant fascism and Biden hasn’t done anything to stop it
MisterStompy 7/14/2023 11:19 PM
Legally there isn't much he can do. State militias are allowed, New Jersy has had one since the 90's for instance.
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Why
It "Just Isn't Fair," says the man who got away with murder
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(supposedly)
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A "state guard" is a militia, no? Although it's sort of like the Coast Guard where the focus is shit like search and rescue
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Legally there isn't much he can do. State militias are allowed, New Jersy has had one since the 90's for instance.
I don't think ours is active
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I think most state defense forces (SDFs) shut down around 1946-50
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New York has one though, with 400 members
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I can’t believe they are doing this blatant fascism and Biden hasn’t done anything to stop it
32 U.S.C. § 109
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Johnson & Johnson has sued four doctors who published studies citing links between talc-based personal care products and cancer, escalating an attack on scientific studies that the company alleges are inaccurate.
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BubsyFanboy 7/15/2023 11:34 AM
The AfD are reappropriating a Nazi symbol in a campaign to ban gender inclusive language
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@derJamesJackson Zur Referenz:
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Only the pink was used for homosexuals
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I thought
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AfD is practically nazi anyways
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MisterStompy 7/16/2023 1:37 AM
This man has people dissolving in barrels of acid in his basement. https://vxtwitter.com/Acyn/status/1680359102147629056
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MisterStompy 7/16/2023 12:47 PM
Why would you delete this? This is amazing.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/16/2023 12:56 PM
Lmfao
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the israeli judicial reform is close to passing
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but thr protests are cranking up
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and the supreme court is considering the possibility of removing binyamin netanyahu from office
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I hope they do
11:36 PM
this is their chance to stop their democracy from backsliding
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Plus, the Supreme Court has its own incentive to act as this ""reform"" takes away a lot of their power. Sure, the system isn't great, but what the government is proposing is even worse (edited)
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Horseshoe theory has gone too far. A guy I know who's way too into QAnon and loves Trump was recently defending Stalin and the Soviet Union in a convo I had with him. "Stalin wasn't as bad as you're saying . . ." and all that.
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And yes, he supports Russia in the war in Ukraine
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This war has caused fascists and tankies to cross-pollinate on propaganda and rhetoric to the extent that they're actually kind of merging together in some cases. I hate it.
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BubsyFanboy 7/17/2023 9:20 AM
I may have procrastinated on Wikipedia and found out that the LGBT-free zones in Poland have been drastically reduced in size in the last 3 years (Green) with Red as what remains and Yellow as potential of establishment
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Why would you delete this? This is amazing.
BubsyFanboy 7/17/2023 9:21 AM
I hate everything about this
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AfD is practically nazi anyways
Aren't they as close to Nazis as legally allowable?
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Aren't they as close to Nazis as legally allowable?
MisterStompy 7/17/2023 11:47 AM
Might not be legal, the federal government is ramping up rhetoric against them and is close to banning their youth wing.
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I'd say that's probably good then.
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Aren't they as close to Nazis as legally allowable?
I think that's another party called NDP or something (edited)
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But AfD is close
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Nvm NDP rebranded to Heimat (meaning Homeland) this year
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The Homeland (German: Die Heimat), commonly known by its official name until 2023, the National Democratic Party of Germany (German: Nationaldemokratische Partei Deutschlands), is a far-right Neo-Nazi and ultranationalist political party in Germany. The party was founded in 1964 as successor to the German Reich Party (German: Deutsche Reichspart...
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Idaho pastor Joe Jones to a group of trans rights activists: “I don’t want to put anyone in a camp. I want you dead.”
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BubsyFanboy 7/17/2023 4:25 PM
Some of the emails reportedly contain sensitive information such as passwords and medical records.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/17/2023 4:26 PM
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 7/17/2023 5:41 PM
You know, I wonder if the old medieval model of the Shore Reeve (the early concept of a sheriff) could work as an alternative to our deeply flawed police systems
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Because early on, sheriffs were either elected by the local shire, or chosen by the local nobles from well respected community members
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/17/2023 5:42 PM
At this point, Im.willing for a revolver toot'in sheriff with a sharp jaw, convince me
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 7/17/2023 5:53 PM
They were less there to crack heads and take names, and more to settle land disputes, collect duties on trade, and to chase off bandits (also get murdered by Vikings); they weren’t nobility, and weren’t accountable to them, but were part of the laity and were considered commoners, and didn’t own castles, but they’re homes were expected to be used as a meeting place for whatever reason needed. They were also always permitted to own and carry weapons (except inside of churches), though the price of them meant they often had just an axe, mace, club, or spear, or if they had a sword, they were generally smaller and of lower quality
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They weren’t a judge in and of themselves, but had some limited authority to resolve legal disputes, such as over livestock and poaching, and would typically refer anything else to either the local judge, clerical officer, or Noble, depending on when and where, and what the dispute was
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that actually endangers peoples lives
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I sure fucking hope the church as an institution burns up and dies. (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 7/18/2023 2:52 AM
Can a town write and enforce a private set of laws?
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This article is from 1995 btw.
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New York Times article that, in very sanitized language, basically discusses Trump's plans to outright establish himself as a dictator if he's elected.
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ok
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make a unsanitized version of this and spread it everywhere
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ideally in pretty much a tone of pure contempt
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spite is a hellva motivator
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use it
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also trying to put the CIA under direct control of the pres is a good way to get your ass coup'd
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/18/2023 4:09 PM
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yes
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bomb a beloved british icon
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in a country that has a thing against people attacking their bridges
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surely this won't do wrong
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/s for the love of god
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also
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isn't the UK part of NATO?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/18/2023 4:25 PM
yes
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isn't the UK part of NATO?
DevilTheAutopoet 7/18/2023 4:29 PM
Yep. If they did that it would pretty much be instant WWIII.
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oh no
7:23 PM
Trump stole Israeli artifacts
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MisterStompy 7/18/2023 7:26 PM
Dude's like fucking five feet tall I'm gonna go have a talk with him
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DevilTheAutopoet 7/18/2023 7:32 PM
You have to love that he was saying this as a defense. Like he's saying it as though wanting someone dead is better than wanting to imprison them.
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You have to love that he was saying this as a defense. Like he's saying it as though wanting someone dead is better than wanting to imprison them.
MisterStompy 7/18/2023 7:33 PM
"I'm a big fan of your work, Mister Hitler!" - Steven Anderson
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"Super good!"
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 7/18/2023 7:51 PM
Many of the senator’s constituents hadn’t heard what he was doing in interviews with NBC News, even as his actions have gripped Washington.
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...you mean surrounded by military basis Alabama
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where military joining is common to get the fuck outta Alabama?!
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https://www.axios.com/2023/07/17/young-americans-blame-student-loan-debt-scotus Welp....gotta place a bet we gonna get the house again
Conservatives are taking the heat after the Supreme Court killed Biden's student loan relief plan.
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now the ratio is up in the air
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/18/2023 8:38 PM
wait what
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isn't greene full republican or something
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yes
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but basically
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she said all this stuff in criticism
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/18/2023 8:40 PM
Lmfao
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how many braincells does she fucking have
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This is her grand attack on Joe Biden, repurposed as a Biden campaign ad
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/18/2023 8:40 PM
Hey I would gladly continue a program FDR started
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lemme dig up a less edited version; it's amazing how little editing had to be done to get the speech into this form
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The main piece of editing that happened in this ad is that they took MTG's criticism of LBJ (who she was introducing to her audience as an antecedent to Biden) and applied it directly to Biden instead
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/18/2023 8:45 PM
On another note We(Panama) have a candidate for next years elections who is currently VP, THIS is the type of situation where critisizing someone for holding that title is understandable because our current administration is Fucked
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his story is really weird
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Private 2nd Class Travis King had just been released from a South Korean prison where he had been held on assault charges and was facing additional military disciplinary actions in the US.
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>assault
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 7/18/2023 11:17 PM
Looks he fled there to avoid being charged. (edited)
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Hoo boy is he in for a treat.
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BubsyFanboy 7/19/2023 6:06 AM
https://natemat.pl/499622,donald-tusk-po-akcji-policji-ws-joanny-ktora-usunela-ciaze-to-poczatek [Polish article] Tusk got upset over the recent case with police trying to arrest the woman who tried to get a day after pill. She was forced to strip herself naked and had her laptop confiscated and when she did reach another genealogist, she was again met with police who now demanded her phone. Tusk's reaction: "The attack of the prosecutor's office and the police on a woman seeking help in the hospital is just the beginning. Want to vote for PiS or Konfederacja? Say that, you coward, to your wife, girlfriend, daughter!"
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I wanted to see it for myself: It's absolutely true. They are astroturfing the QAnon #soundoffreedom movie. #Q #qanon #fakes @jimstewartson
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She thought it looked funny that seats were sold out for Sound Of Freedom when getting tickets to somethings else not also sold out so she reports looking in the theater and seeing it bare of viewers, claims distant money is buying out the tickets to create buzz
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https://www.axios.com/2023/07/17/young-americans-blame-student-loan-debt-scotus Welp....gotta place a bet we gonna get the house again
MisterStompy 7/19/2023 11:32 AM
I still can't believe Republicans thought this would make people dislike Democrats
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also it's good to know there's one Green party out there that isn't run by a bunch of fuckin hippies that shill for the Kremlin https://allianceforscience.org/blog/2022/05/finland-green-party-nuclear/
In a historic shift, Finland’s Green Party voted overwhelmingly to adopt a fully pro-nuclear stance at its national meeting. The party manifesto now states that nuclear is “sustainable energy” and demands the reform of current energy legislation to streamline the approval process for SMRs (small modular reactors). Finland’s is the first Green Pa...
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Then again it's Finns and they've been pretty good about not wanting to shill for the Kremlin in the past
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Private 2nd Class Travis King had just been released from a South Korean prison where he had been held on assault charges and was facing additional military disciplinary actions in the US.
MisterStompy 7/19/2023 11:33 AM
Theoretically, how long would he be under some form of detainment had he just accepted punishment from the US military?
11:34 AM
Because I mean... now he's going to fucking die which is probably worse than being held in jail.
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Theoretically, how long would he be under some form of detainment had he just accepted punishment from the US military?
I think he already served his prison sentence in SK
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I think he was mostly facing potential unemployment upon returning to the US
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I think most people are of the opinion that this man is some kind of idiot
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also it's good to know there's one Green party out there that isn't run by a bunch of fuckin hippies that shill for the Kremlin https://allianceforscience.org/blog/2022/05/finland-green-party-nuclear/
German Greens
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Russia meddled in the last German elections against them
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so they've been on the warpath against Russia ever since
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*well, they had their problems with Russia before too, which is why Russia meddled against them, but they're on really bad terms rn
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The German Greens haven't outright endorsed nuclear power yet, unfortunately.
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But in the short term at least, they've expressed a willingness to keep existing nuclear plants running beyond their original planned shutdown dates: https://www.dw.com/en/nuclear-power-german-greens-put-pragmatism-before-core-values/a-63521581 During the first week after Russia invaded Ukraine, they also endorsed temporarily increasing coal-based power production IIRC.
The Green Party has seen challenges to its core principles ever since it became part of Germany's three-party government. Pragmatism is forcing painful decisions on weapons exports, fossil fuels, and nuclear power.
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But what we've been seeing for the last 1.5 years in Germany is that the Greens there are a pragmatic and diverse party, as opposed to the stereotype of a niche uncompromising idealistic party with a narrow scope.
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On further inspection though, I think one potentially alarming problem the German Greens have is that the party has its roots in anti-nuclear activism, and it's been hard enough for the party to leave these roots that the Greens wanted to continue shutting down 1 of Germany's nuclear plants while reactivating multiple coal-burning plants: https://ip-quarterly.com/en/german-greens-identity-crisis
Germany’s Greens have been forced to compromise on many of their core beliefs while in government. To maintain their electoral support, they need to continue to combine pragmatism with climate-centered policies.
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Because I mean... now he's going to fucking die which is probably worse than being held in jail.
AvoidOblivion 7/19/2023 12:20 PM
No, not just die. He’s an American soldier in North Korea; if a civilian was tortured for years, a soldier will be given unimaginably horrific treatment.
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I think he planned on defecting and enjoying a comfortable life as a propaganda piece (edited)
12:20 PM
NK's token former US soldier, paraded around and etc.
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I expect NK to offer him the carrot or the stick, and I expect him to take the carrot. He tells them whatever they want to hear, and then he spends the rest of his life being shown in NK government propaganda and spewing random shit about how life in America and SK sucks.
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I think there's like a 60% chance that happens
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But I think he'll realize after a bit that such a life is not always fun
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MisterStompy 7/19/2023 2:47 PM
Internet Communists 🤝 Internet Fascists "Actually the world was better when we were forced to serve a feudal lord."
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Also these people are the same ones that say that capitalism and the free market is just neofeudalism, yet here they are praising a system in which you work to produce a product you never get to enjoy all to barely stave off starvation so that you don't incur the wrath of a ridiculously welalthy oligarch you will never meet in your life.
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MisterStompy 7/19/2023 3:02 PM
"My ancestors in 1252 or whatever never knew what a banana was and they fucked and drank and had a good time (presumably)."
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DevilTheAutopoet 7/19/2023 3:04 PM
Imagine how ignorant of history you have to be to think the average European peasant in the Middle Ages was spending their days fucking and drinking and having a good time.
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how many braincells does she fucking have
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 7/19/2023 3:18 PM
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/19/2023 3:18 PM
accurate
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 7/19/2023 3:19 PM
I’d pay to see a fight between her and Lauren Boebert
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Imagine how ignorant of history you have to be to think the average European peasant in the Middle Ages was spending their days fucking and drinking and having a good time.
I often remind people that historically, while Lords have been shitbirds, there are some signs that indicate they were keenly aware the peasants could kill them anytime and the smarter ones often had them do non-farming jobs to basically keep them fed least they end up beheaded. Especially in wars. especially in wars where the peasants were archers
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yeah so peasants weren't knights but they did play a huge support role and secondary role as Archers
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it wasn't until Crecy when they realise arrows could be a problem for knights (edited)
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Crecy was a war (that technically was part of the 100 years war) in medivial Europe between the english and france (edited)
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archers played such a huge role, it killed the concept of knighthood
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And Agincourt, where English longbowmen practically wiped out the flower of French nobility
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yup
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although france returned the favor later
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especially given the war was their fault, by all rights
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the English
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it wasn't until Crecy when they realise arrows could be a problem for knights (edited)
DevilTheAutopoet 7/19/2023 4:04 PM
I remember reading a theory that part of the reason for the introduction of concepts like chivalry and honor in warfare and the use of those to paint archery as wicked and dishonorable even to the detriment of wartime strategy was to keep peasant archers from realising just how absurdly powerful of a force they could actually be and rising up against the knights and lords. Which would also explain why there such contrasting views on the Robin Hood myth amongst the different castes in Europe at that time.
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I remember reading a theory that part of the reason for the introduction of concepts like chivalry and honor in warfare and the use of those to paint archery as wicked and dishonorable even to the detriment of wartime strategy was to keep peasant archers from realising just how absurdly powerful of a force they could actually be and rising up against the knights and lords. Which would also explain why there such contrasting views on the Robin Hood myth amongst the different castes in Europe at that time.
DevilTheAutopoet 7/19/2023 4:05 PM
I imagine that the popularity of the Robin Hood myth amongst the peasantry probably scared the piss out of the aristocrats.
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Internet Communists 🤝 Internet Fascists "Actually the world was better when we were forced to serve a feudal lord."
joe hill’s revenge 7/19/2023 8:47 PM
R both of those people communists or fascists? Tbhthis is accurate re: the pampered American suburban middle class (edited)
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BubsyFanboy 7/20/2023 5:10 AM
Man, her painting all of that as a bad thing is almost comedic
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BubsyFanboy 7/20/2023 1:02 PM
Hmm...
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If the Robin Hood myth roots at a 12th century defrauded marcher lord in wales, Falk III FitzWarin, then it’s not the sexier a story of an archer robbing the rich to give to the poorer
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Robin hood is a relatable figure tbh
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a dude who knows his worth, robbed of it, and took it personally to redistribute the wealth
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likewise, he had allies, communal support and technically support from the local down to earth religion figure who had concerns of the rich not paying their fair share
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 7/20/2023 2:11 PM
In Florida, up is apparently down, and students at Florida public schools will now find out that slavery was good for Black people because it taught them skills. Kids won’t learn that these “skills” were often learned from the crack of a whip or the butt of a gun. Nope. They’ll learn some fairy tale […]
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...isn't that against fed school policy?
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also
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you want black panthers in Florida?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/20/2023 2:58 PM
DO WE NEED TO BRING SHERMAN BACK TO LIFE DESANTIS!?!?
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tbh
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The Union's biggest mistake was not stopping until all of the south was smoke and rubble
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arguablly it was a mistake they learned to not make with German post WII
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Agreed. And that comment is coming from a southerner. The Union should have been harsher. Far harsher.
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eeeh I argue the Reconstruction/occupation was more important. The south was razed and losing Atlanta basically crushed the CSA economy AND war effort. Had Reconstruction not been fucked by a southern president after Lincoln, the South would be in a better place
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Sherman wasn't burning for burning sake. but he sure as fuck pointed out that if you want to make sure nobody will do such shit again, you crush their spirit
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Reconstruction would have done that, had it not been sabatoged
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Reconstruction would have done that, had it not been sabatoged
DevilTheAutopoet 7/20/2023 5:47 PM
And then the fucking Half-Breeds started criticising the Radical Republicans, calling them "Stalwarts" for wanting to, y'know, actually do Reconstruction and do it right. According to them the fact that it went badly had nothing to do whatsoever to do with Johnson's bullshit, and was purely because Grant was corrupt and Reconstruction was just a bad idea and not worth it. Bastards.
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MisterStompy 7/21/2023 12:51 AM
Every problem in America that we have today could have been avoided had it been made legal to hunt Redshirts and Klansmen.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 7/21/2023 1:43 AM
Overnight Donald Trump promoted a video featuring an extreme close-up photo of his face in black and white, and audio of him making an obvious threat: “If you f— around with us, if you do something bad to us, we are going to do things to you that have never been done before.” Trump “retruthed” t...
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/21/2023 11:53 AM
"Lindon B Johnson is very similar to Joe Biden" oh? (edited)
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eeeh I argue the Reconstruction/occupation was more important. The south was razed and losing Atlanta basically crushed the CSA economy AND war effort. Had Reconstruction not been fucked by a southern president after Lincoln, the South would be in a better place
this
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Lincoln led the moderate republican plan of reforming the south
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His death caused power to shift to radical republicans who wanted to punish the south, but also for Andrew Johnson and his borderline-treasonous ass to become president and severely obstruct that process.
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So you wound up with this bizarre situation where the president was a Southern sympathizer while Congress was trying to raze it
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And this led to an incoherent policy towards the south that let former slave holders return to political power soon after
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Destruction of the Southern economy, but not its political leadership
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The latter spared by Johnson
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Destruction of the Southern economy, but not its political leadership
DevilTheAutopoet 7/21/2023 12:04 PM
In fairness, that's kinda been the US's MO in regards to "regime change".
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hahaha
12:06 PM
Lincoln's assassination was probably a tragedy for the average Southerner
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unless you were part of the political ruling class
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Lincoln's assassination was a tragedy for everyone but the slaver class
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When Lincoln was asssassinated, there were also plans to assassinate Johnson, but the guy who was supposed to do that got cold feet
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The guy who would've taken over after that is a guy who barely has a Wikipedia article
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can't find anything about his political views
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Lafayette Sabine Foster (November 22, 1806 – September 19, 1880) was a nineteenth-century American politician and lawyer from Connecticut. He served in the United States Senate from 1855 to 1867 and was a judge on the Connecticut Supreme Court from 1870 to 1876.
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I was writing an alt history scenario like a month ago where the US wound up in a war with France and Britain shortly after the end of the Civil War, and part of the scenario involved Andrew Johnson's feud with Grant reaching its peak earlier, causing an earlier (and successful) impeachment and causing Lafayette S. Foster to become US president.
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which was kind of useful because we know almost nothing there's no popular conceptions about the dude's political leanings (edited)
12:12 PM
so he's kind of a blank canvas for the alt-history scenario
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_John_Temple,_3rd_Viscount_Palmerston this guy was British PM during the US Civil War
Henry John Temple, 3rd Viscount Palmerston, (20 October 1784 – 18 October 1865) was a British statesman who was twice Prime Minister of the United Kingdom in the mid-19th century. Palmerston dominated British foreign policy during the period 1830 to 1865, when Britain stood at the height of its imperial power. He held office almost continuously...
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/21/2023 12:14 PM
all i know, is funni streetname man
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when it started, he was convinced that the whole Civil War thing was a cover for the US to rapidly militarize in preparation for invasion of Canada
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soon after the US Civil War ended, he won an even larger majority in parliament than he previously had, and ordered plans to negotiate an alliance with France against the US, because he was absolutely convinced that the US was now going to invade Canada and Ireland
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He caught a cold the next month and died.
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He caught a cold the next month and died.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/21/2023 12:16 PM
that is the most 19th century thing ever
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A few months later, the US threatened to go to war with France and Austria if France and Austria did not leave Mexico.
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But had Palmerston lived through that cold and arranged a secret alliance with France?
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Would Napoleon III have left Mexico?
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weird alt-history scenario that literally starts with some dude not dying of a cold
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/21/2023 12:17 PM
this is why i love modern day medicine
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quildtide
can't find anything about his political views
DevilTheAutopoet 7/21/2023 12:18 PM
Iirc, he was a former Oppositionist and had previously been associated with the Free Soil and Whig Parties. But he was also referred to as relatively conservative, although not really in line with Johnson or the Half-Breeds. I think he probably aligned most closely with Lincoln's Moderate camp.
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That's the best I could guess
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this is why i love modern day medicine
AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/21/2023 12:18 PM
cus we don't die of actual stupid bullshittery like a cold
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Mfw a cold derails a timeline where Grant and Bismarck fight a war together
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One thing I did run into trouble with in this alt history timeline was figuring out the implications on reconstruction. What policy would the US take towards the South if it wound up at war with Britain and France less than a year after the end of the Civil War? (edited)
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its very likely reconstruction could get delayed
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at best
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because south would be forced to join to defend the country
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One route that I think would have been plausible would've involved reviving much of the Confederate command structure, with Grant advocating for either Longstreet (a good friend of Grant's) or Lee (more credible for gaining former-Confederate support) taking charge of the Mexican front while Grant commanded the Canadian front.
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unless the British really fuck with the South first
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One of the reasons the US really wanted France to leave Mexico ASAP (aside from the Monroe Doctrine) was because Confederate exiles were actually heading to Mexico to join the imperial forces
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and trying to start a second confederacy from Mexico
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The New Virginia Colony was a colonization plan in central Mexico, to resettle ex-Confederates after the American Civil War. The largest settlement was Carlota, approximately midway between Mexico City and Veracruz, although other settlements were planned near Tampico, Monterrey, Cuernavaca, and Chihuahua.The venture was conceived by Commodore M...
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It wasn't actually very significant or successful, but rumors about it were concerning for the US
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So I could see a perceived need to bring back Lee as a US officer in order to keep southern sentiment from drifting towards a second insurrection.
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On the other hand, there's a chance something that far might've been unnecessary; shortly before the end of the Civil War, Southern negotiators suggested a temporary truce and alliance in order to go to war against France: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hampton_Roads_Conference
The Hampton Roads Conference was a peace conference held between the United States and representatives of the unrecognized breakaway Confederate States on February 3, 1865, aboard the steamboat River Queen in Hampton Roads, Virginia, to discuss terms to end the American Civil War. President Abraham Lincoln and Secretary of State William H. Sewar...
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So maybe there was a national appetite to reforge American unity via war with France 🤷 (although this idea was, based off of its timing, almost definitely just a desperate stalling tactic proposed by Confederate leaders)
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But it could be politically disadvantageous to have Grant, Sheridan, or Sherman (especially Sherman) commanding the front in Mexico and depending on logistics flowing through the former Confederacy.
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If the political situation was relatively stable, Longstreet might've been the most natural former Confederate general to lead that front, since he was good friends with Grant both before and after the war. Longstreet is kind of strange. Confederate general that, after the war, commanded forces including an black militia in the Battle of Liberty Place: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Liberty_Place
The Battle of Liberty Place, or Battle of Canal Street, was an attempted insurrection and coup d'etat by the Crescent City White League against the Reconstruction Era Louisiana Republican state government on September 14, 1874, in New Orleans, which was the capital of Louisiana at the time. Five thousand members of the White League, a paramilit...
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/21/2023 1:47 PM
I'm sorry what?
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MisterStompy 7/21/2023 1:56 PM
COUER D'ALENE, Idaho -- A jury has found five members of the white supremacist group Patriot Front guilty of criminal conspiracy to riot, a misdemeanor.
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When Lincoln was asssassinated, there were also plans to assassinate Johnson, but the guy who was supposed to do that got cold feet
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 7/21/2023 2:42 PM
He got drunk instead
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 7/21/2023 10:32 PM
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 7/21/2023 10:51 PM
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/1409/text#toc-id6bf0ab45-cf69-44d3-ae9e-afa4b86201c9 Dodgy as hell bill that essentially amounts to the government wanting your data to "protect kids".
Text for S.1409 - 118th Congress (2023-2024): Kids Online Safety Act
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..... Those idiots really didn't learn from Temecula, didn't they?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/1409/text#toc-id6bf0ab45-cf69-44d3-ae9e-afa4b86201c9 Dodgy as hell bill that essentially amounts to the government wanting your data to "protect kids".
call your reps, especially democrat controlled senate, and tell them that this well lead to trans kids getting killed by bigots in state govs
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its a anti-trans bill
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ditto a anti-abortion bill
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play it like that
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MisterStompy 7/22/2023 6:21 AM
YouTuber Paul Joseph Watson is being investigated by police after multiple girls have come forward to accuse him of rape.
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wow in the netherlands the GroenLinks (left wing greens) and PvdA (soc dem) announced they will run together and that puts them ahead in the polls
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but its kind of a three way race with the VVD (liberals of the outgoing, retiring prime minister Rutte) and BBB, right wing populists pro-farmers who came out of nowhere to finish first in the senate election
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with all those parties expected to have 20-30 seats in the current polling each (out of 150) close behind are the fascists of the PVV (15 seats more or less), D66 soclibs (>10 seats and collapsing), PvdD (vegan party, about ten seats), then you have SP (socialists), FA21 (fascists) and Volt (european federalists) in the upper single digits, its quite a meess
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In the run-up to the 2023 Dutch general election, various organisations are carrying out opinion polling to gauge voting intentions in the Netherlands. Results of such polls are displayed in this list. The date range for these opinion polls are from the 2021 general election, held on 15–17 March, to the present day. The next election was schedul...
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so that makes, with current polling, the far right (PVV, FvD, JA21 & BVNL) at around 25 seats right wing populists (BBB, SGP) at around 30 seats the "classic" center right of liberals/christdems (VVD, D66, CDA, CU) at around 45 seats the center-left wing (PvdA/GL, SP, Volt, Denk) at around 52 seats
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(that goes over 150 but i'm taking multiple polls to take averages)
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MisterStompy 7/22/2023 9:27 AM
Fun fact, if you scratch a fascist then communists will call you a reactionary imperialist for daring to defend liberal democracy!
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also, elections in spain tomorrow
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out of 350 seats, the projections are as such: 110 for the socdems (-10) 35 for the leftists (~) 130 for the conservatives (+45) 35 seats for the fascists (-15)
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the fascists said they would support a minority conservative government
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but most of the smaller parties tend to be left wing, such as the catalonian independantists, so its not gonna be easy and we may have yet another hung parliament
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some pollings however do have the conservatives in the 150s and the facists in the 30s which might just work
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Fun fact, if you scratch a fascist then communists will call you a reactionary imperialist for daring to defend liberal democracy!
the french communist party only started active resistance after operation barbarossa
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the french communist party only started active resistance after operation barbarossa
MisterStompy 7/22/2023 9:40 AM
This is true. Some of them actually tried to collaborate with the fucking Nazis. It didn't go well for them.
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to their credits, many started resisting before that, and after that, they were some of the most ardent fights in the resistance, but that doesnt change much for what the party itself did
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MisterStompy 7/22/2023 9:40 AM
Also Stalin sent German communists who fled the Nazi regime back to Germany.
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if as a leftist, you're authoritarian, then you're not a leftist, simple as
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a temporary truce with conservatives and whatnot to fight another fascist invader (such as is the case in ukraine)? fine fighting with the fucking nazis to invade several sovereign states in a purely imperialistic drive? lmao fuck off
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poland and finland gets the highlight but lets not forget that the soviets also pactised with the nazis to get the baltics and moldova
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a temporary truce with conservatives and whatnot to fight another fascist invader (such as is the case in ukraine)? fine fighting with the fucking nazis to invade several sovereign states in a purely imperialistic drive? lmao fuck off
MisterStompy 7/22/2023 9:46 AM
Keep in mind the rhetoric communists use against sending aid to Ukriane (It's just prolonging the war, it's a proxy war between imperialist powers, you're forcing Ukraine to fight) is the SAME EXACT SHIT the communists said in opposition to military aid to the British and French. They even did the whole "Now it's not like I support the Nazis or anything I'm just saying, England can't win!"
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i mean, it is a fight between imperialist powers and we're not gonna let them win this time 😎
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ngl i still have no idea which way this war will end up
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i think the west is able to supply ukraine muhccccccccccccch longer than russia is
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MisterStompy 7/22/2023 9:47 AM
If it's a fight between "woke globalism" and fascist imperialism, guess who gets my support?
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but what happens when russia breaks tho
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MisterStompy 7/22/2023 9:48 AM
Free markets Free gays Free trans NO FUCKING EXCEPTIONS
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and overall i really dont like NATO and I very much wish the european union was far more left wing
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but its by far the best side to be in jesus fucking christ
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the alternatives are... fucking china and russia, fuck that
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MisterStompy 7/22/2023 9:49 AM
You hate Che Guevera because hipsters wear his face on T-shirts. I hate Che Guevara because he was violently homophobic. We are not the same.
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che was a very meh revolutionnary
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that said, as far as socialist regimes go, Cuba is certainly the best of them and is overall doing better
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and the US should fucking cease their illegal blockade
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MisterStompy 7/22/2023 9:50 AM
Yeah there's a reason Castro kicked him out lol
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Oh absolutely it's fucking cringe
9:51 AM
If we drop the blockade more and more people will get tired of the government's shit over there because one of the main reasons they have the support they have is because of the blockade so they support the government out of spite.
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If we drop the blockade more and more people will get tired of the government's shit over there because one of the main reasons they have the support they have is because of the blockade so they support the government out of spite.
i very much disagree lol
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i very much disagree lol
MisterStompy 7/22/2023 9:54 AM
I mean there were all those protests in 2021 because they weren't getting treatment for covid
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cuba is no US but it's also pretty much better than the other central american countries
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MisterStompy 7/22/2023 9:56 AM
Oh yeah absolutely, like I'd rather live in Iran than Afghanistan, I can make that decision without any hesitation.
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Just because something is shitty doesn't mean it couldn't be way worse
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and if i was dirt poor i'd rather live in cuba than in florida lol
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MisterStompy 7/22/2023 9:56 AM
I mean Cuba has more LGBT rights than Florida does rn
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or any US state for that matter
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MisterStompy 7/22/2023 9:57 AM
Ehhh no I'd rather live in Vermont or Minnesota than Cuba any day of the week
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if I was born in the US, i'd currently be homeless or dead considering the family i grew up in
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at least in cuba i would have had a chance
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MisterStompy 7/22/2023 9:57 AM
There's homeless people in Cuba
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Not many but they're out there
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there's homeless people where i live too
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Evo
cuba is no US but it's also pretty much better than the other central american countries
AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/22/2023 9:57 AM
Hey, only we get to talk shit about ourselves(Joking)
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MisterStompy 7/22/2023 9:57 AM
Yeah where are you from Evo
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If you aren't from America then make like a tree and FUCK OFF
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but we do have an extensive social security system so if you do become homeless you fucked up on quite a number of levels
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but we do have an extensive social security system so if you do become homeless you fucked up on quite a number of levels
MisterStompy 7/22/2023 9:58 AM
Okay so that leaves like ten countries, I like this game
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It's like Guess Who but for western and central Europe
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I was kidding about the Make Like A Tree thing btw
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that includes free school, free university, government supported social housing and so on
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It's like Guess Who but for western and central Europe
and thats the cool thing its not even unique lol
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MisterStompy 7/22/2023 9:59 AM
Okay so Germany, France or Czech Republic
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MisterStompy 7/22/2023 9:59 AM
Possibly Sweden?
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MisterStompy 7/22/2023 9:59 AM
Belgium?
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MisterStompy 7/22/2023 9:59 AM
gross
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also france is quickly becoming garbage in those aspects
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macron does rhyme with moron tho
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MisterStompy 7/22/2023 9:59 AM
Czech Republic would be so fucking rad to live in
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Culture there is great, there's tons of fun shit to do and the women are so fucking gorgeous dude god damn
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gross
AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/22/2023 10:00 AM
if you get it you get it
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yesterday was our national holiday btw so long weekend lol
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MisterStompy 7/22/2023 10:00 AM
Aw yes the "People Think We're French" day
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/22/2023 10:00 AM
Lmfao
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MisterStompy 7/22/2023 10:00 AM
I'm sorry I'm being really mean right now lol
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french speaking people are not even a majority in belgium
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but i dont expect american to know much about geography lol
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MisterStompy 7/22/2023 10:01 AM
But no one time I met this chick from the Czech Republic and I swear to god it was like looking at Medusa I just fucking froze in place and started making those weird primate noises
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funnily enough we even had our revolution for pretty much the same reasons as the US
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MisterStompy 7/22/2023 10:01 AM
(Medusa was really hot btw, feel like most people dont' know that)
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(Well I mean she wasn't real but you get the idea)
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people like to call Belgium a french/british buffer state but we did revolt because the government (the dutch one) had unequal representation for us in parliament and overtaxation
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on top of religious difference (we're catholics, they're protestants)
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MisterStompy 7/22/2023 10:02 AM
I was trying to do a google search for how you say "Mommy" in Czech but I couldn't get my phone out
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/22/2023 10:02 AM
I got u bro
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máma
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MisterStompy 7/22/2023 10:03 AM
How is it pronounced though
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it's got that thing on the top
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/22/2023 10:03 AM
MAma
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MisterStompy 7/22/2023 10:03 AM
oh okay so I just scream the first syllable
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/22/2023 10:03 AM
its funny how in spanish its the opposite
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we say Mamá
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for mom tho
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its mami for mommy
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MisterStompy 7/22/2023 10:04 AM
I knew that
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Don't ask me how
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Don't ask me how
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with all those parties expected to have 20-30 seats in the current polling each (out of 150) close behind are the fascists of the PVV (15 seats more or less), D66 soclibs (>10 seats and collapsing), PvdD (vegan party, about ten seats), then you have SP (socialists), FA21 (fascists) and Volt (european federalists) in the upper single digits, its quite a meess
DevilTheAutopoet 7/22/2023 2:06 PM
You should check out the projections in the UK.
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Opinion polling for the next United Kingdom general election is continually being carried out by various organisations to gauge voting intention. Most of the polling companies listed are members of the British Polling Council (BPC) and abide by its disclosure rules. The dates for these opinion polls range from the 2019 general election on 12 Dec...
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You should check out the projections in the UK.
i know lol
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honestly quite a few socdem parties doing pretty well at the moment i'm surprised
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if one had looked at the late 2010s it was looking like left wing politics in europe were about to be wiped out
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DevilTheAutopoet 7/22/2023 2:07 PM
It's entirely possible the Tories will get swept so hard they get bumped down to #3 behind the SNP.
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but they're bouncing back in belgium, somewhat france, UK (though Starmer is a fking blairite), netherlands, ..
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It's entirely possible the Tories will get swept so hard they get bumped down to #3 behind the SNP.
SNP isnt doing too well either since Sturgeon left though
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projections have a labour surge in scotland too
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from 50 seats (60 last time around) to 26 in the last seat projection
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MisterStompy 7/22/2023 4:15 PM
Isn't the SNP the Scottish National Party?
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I think so. That scandal must have hit them hard
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but they're bouncing back in belgium, somewhat france, UK (though Starmer is a fking blairite), netherlands, ..
If I had to guess; it's probably because of Russia
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/22/2023 5:10 PM
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 7/22/2023 5:18 PM
The five members of the Patriot Front group will spend three days in jail, an Idaho court has ruled.
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Three days.
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Fucking really?
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 7/22/2023 5:30 PM
Better than nothing ig, but ya know how crooked the US justice system is
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If I had to guess; it's probably because of Russia
MisterStompy 7/22/2023 6:22 PM
The Scottish National Party colluded with Russia? I know one of the Irish greens is doing that, but I didn't know Scotland was.
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The Scottish National Party colluded with Russia? I know one of the Irish greens is doing that, but I didn't know Scotland was.
I mean regarding the revival of socdem fortunes in Europe
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joe hill’s revenge 7/22/2023 9:11 PM
Anyone know how to contact Idaho prison gangs?
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Black Magic 7/22/2023 9:41 PM
Fun fact... Scottland would never be allowed back into the EU by it self
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because old people in Scottland didn't have enough sex.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/22/2023 9:49 PM
what
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Black Magic
because old people in Scottland didn't have enough sex.
AvoidOblivion 7/22/2023 9:55 PM
Youth population is too low for a successful referendum that would end in Scotland rejoining the EU?
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joe hill’s revenge
Anyone know how to contact Idaho prison gangs?
They are the prison gangs.
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Also they did the shower guy dirty.
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If I had to guess; it's probably because of Russia
I mean the Russia loving far right is on the rise too
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Youth population is too low for a successful referendum that would end in Scotland rejoining the EU?
Scotland is vehemently pro EU
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I mean the Russia loving far right is on the rise too
Oh, I know, I wasn't trying to deny that
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Youth population is too low for a successful referendum that would end in Scotland rejoining the EU?
DevilTheAutopoet 7/23/2023 9:33 AM
No, cause old people in Scotland want back in the EU too. I think maybe what she's getting at is that because of the expected drop in workforce over the coming years they won't be able to meet the economic criteria to rejoin the EU.
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This is their population pyramid.
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BubsyFanboy 7/23/2023 1:26 PM
🇳🇴 It's 12 years today since the Oslo bombing and Utøya massacre. A reminder that far-right terrorist Anders Breivik was smitten with Jussi Halla-aho the current Speaker of Parliament in #Finland and quoted him in his writings. https://t.co/kjGgrXCpDD
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In the long term
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See the Israeli far right
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From banned for assassinating Rabin to running the nation
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MisterStompy 7/23/2023 2:27 PM
Holy fuck DeSantis' campaign team just tweeted out an esoteric naziism meme https://twitter.com/ltthompso/status/1683126430534598656
The @desantiscams account just deleted this video after at least one campaign staffer RT'd it. I wonder if this was also made in-house.
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MisterStompy 7/23/2023 2:45 PM
"DeSantis is more electable than Trump because he understands optics." Desantis: https://youtu.be/ZJ26fFLNLB4
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Stolas_of_the_Stars 7/23/2023 2:48 PM
Still one of the best sequences on TV!
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 7/23/2023 2:54 PM
My reaction
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My reaction
MisterStompy 7/23/2023 2:57 PM
Me: I HATE communists Also Me:
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 7/23/2023 2:58 PM
If I ever get enough money I'm going to visit the Balkans just to visit the funni pit
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Fun fact... Scottland would never be allowed back into the EU by it self
joe hill’s revenge 7/23/2023 3:27 PM
EU members like Spain don’t want to allow in separatist states, cause it would encourage Catalonia
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EU members like Spain don’t want to allow in separatist states, cause it would encourage Catalonia
DevilTheAutopoet 7/23/2023 3:42 PM
I think some of their people have said they'd be fine with it as long as the separation was constitutional. Because then they can say the London agreed to it. They just won't accept it if it's a messy split, which afaik isn't even on the table anyway.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 7/23/2023 4:07 PM
In the national reckoning that followed the police killing of George Floyd three years ago, about 2,000 protesters took to the streets in a St. Louis suburb.
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Vice put together an in-depth documentary exploring DeSantis’ time at Guantanamo Bay. Showtime suddenly shelved the documentary one day after DeSantis declared for president.
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EU members like Spain don’t want to allow in separatist states, cause it would encourage Catalonia
Black Magic 7/23/2023 7:24 PM
that's true, but it's ust one problem on the heap of problems; the biggest one is that Scottland is a state that takes in more money from the U.K. than it sends back. it's a tax burden state.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 7/23/2023 7:56 PM
Already posted, my bad
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that's true, but it's ust one problem on the heap of problems; the biggest one is that Scottland is a state that takes in more money from the U.K. than it sends back. it's a tax burden state.
DevilTheAutopoet 7/23/2023 8:33 PM
That's not strictly that much of an issue. As it stands, Scotland contributes more in tax revenue per capita than the rest of the UK. It's just that UK pretty consistently runs in the red. And if you look at Scotland's excess contributions vs its excess public funding, especially if you account for interest payments on the debt, Scotland actually slightly subsidizes the rest of the UK, not the other way around. Plus, if Scotland goes independent but doesn't immediately join the EU, it's likely that they'll have to create their own currency in the meantime, which will give them currency sovereignty. Which would actually put them in a better position for dealing with debt than what they're in now.
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MisterStompy 7/23/2023 8:49 PM
lol
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All the projections said Vox was gonna sweep Spanish parliament. Looks like it was a repeat of the "red wave" of 2022.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/23/2023 8:50 PM
spanish civil wae 2.0 here we go
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this really is a repeat of the post ww1 period
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russia does a fucking stupid invasion and gets humiliated
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spain starts to head towards political instability
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lmao
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AIF Cuirassier regiment
spanish civil wae 2.0 here we go
MisterStompy 7/23/2023 8:51 PM
More like Spanish years of lead
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/23/2023 8:52 PM
could be
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MisterStompy 7/23/2023 10:17 PM
DeSantis is done. It's over.
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When Sargon thinks you're too cringe, you've gone beyond the pale. There is no coming back.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/23/2023 10:53 PM
should we just call him Denazis now?
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or just denazi
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What in the fuck am I looking at
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MisterStompy 7/23/2023 11:32 PM
Ron DeSantis' campaign shared a video where the black sun appears behind him
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Aka Nazi symbol
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what the fuck
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Yup
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Oh the democrats in Florida are running with this image rn
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Quick, get DeNazi trending rn
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The showdown between Texas Gov. Greg Abbott and the Biden administration intensifies as the Department of Justice threatens legal actions.
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BubsyFanboy 7/24/2023 8:26 AM
The standards, which were blasted by a statewide teachers' union as a "step backward," were approved Wednesday by the State Board of Education.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 7/24/2023 10:58 AM
The measure restricts the ways in which judges can overrule the government. The plan has deeply divided Israelis, and opponents are petitioning the Supreme Court to intervene.
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aaand that's a riot in your streets
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and a way for the Court to deny your ass
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Texas wants to drown migrants
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and idiots put it on fed property
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Biden has every right to order the army to remove them
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/24/2023 1:08 PM
take em down
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rio grande is a co-shared river between mexico and the us gov
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it sounds like he is
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or planning too
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/24/2023 6:52 PM
Big news guys
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 7/24/2023 9:18 PM
The Justice Department is suing Texas Republican Gov. Greg Abbott over a floating barrier that the state placed on the Rio Grande to stop migrants from entering the U.S.
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here we go
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/24/2023 9:26 PM
YESS
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Cmon Texas, listen to daddy Joe Or else
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MisterStompy 7/25/2023 9:56 AM
"DeSantis is not saying that slavery wasn't that bad, and to prove it I'll say the holocaust wasn't that bad." https://vxtwitter.com/DecodingFoxNews/status/1683605276472008705
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/25/2023 10:44 AM
good fucking lord above
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"DeSantis is not saying that slavery wasn't that bad, and to prove it I'll say the holocaust wasn't that bad." https://vxtwitter.com/DecodingFoxNews/status/1683605276472008705
joe hill’s revenge 7/25/2023 12:52 PM
Being the token liberal on the five is a horrible job
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"DeSantis is not saying that slavery wasn't that bad, and to prove it I'll say the holocaust wasn't that bad." https://vxtwitter.com/DecodingFoxNews/status/1683605276472008705
Jewish Defamation league in the distance:
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but also congrats for the new citizens!
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MisterStompy 7/25/2023 4:35 PM
Breaking News: Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida is sharply cutting the size of his presidential campaign staff, according to people with knowledge of the decision. https://nyti.ms/3OaFw5E 💖 199
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so shits about to go down or he knows he's fucked presidential wise
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fuckkkk
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"DeSantis is not saying that slavery wasn't that bad, and to prove it I'll say the holocaust wasn't that bad." https://vxtwitter.com/DecodingFoxNews/status/1683605276472008705
"You survived by being useful. No, you delayed your death by being useful." What you just described is capitalism.
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MisterStompy 7/25/2023 7:13 PM
Nate Hochman's dismissal is the latest instance of internal disorder inside the DeSantis campaign.
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It wasn't just shared by a campaign staffer lmao
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Desatan is in a cash crunch?
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For the love of God, shut up you fascist SOB
7:21 PM
I swear, Kirk's face is looking VERY punchable rn. With a power-fist
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MisterStompy 7/25/2023 7:28 PM
Here's his Twitter account in case anybody wants to archive it https://twitter.com/njhochman
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The rise in unfavorability amongst the GOP comes after the 45th president was indicted twice and currently faces a potential third indictment.
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In-fighting in the GOP?
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https://newrepublic.com/post/174555/desantis-staffer-reportedly-shares-video-desantis-giant-nazi-symbol the video got spread throughout the campaign office. Long knives is putting it mildly
“Calling DeSantis a fascist isn’t hyperbole, it’s defining what he is.”
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DeSatan is shittin' bricks on that video getting public in privacy because Florida dems got off their ass and smell blood in the water
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A leading election denier is accused of preying on minors, and a white nationalist is accused of covering for him.
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I knew that there were pedophiles and white nationalists in the far right as you all know. Now I am wondering if there is anything else?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/25/2023 10:02 PM
I say we don't eat the rich i say we just fucking kill them
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what are they gonna do
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pay me to not kill them
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/26/2023 12:03 AM
the other ethnic group he wanted wiped, arizonans
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technically should be in #youtube but Ironically, if your CA, farmers here are rich bastards.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/26/2023 12:16 AM
lmao
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its true
12:17 AM
farmers here are land owning rich bastards who hog water for water wasting plants, and beat and abuse their poor farmhands, many of them illegal immigrants trying to support their families.
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now, small one acre farmers tend NOT to be this, but even then, there are arguments they're more closer to blue collar middle class.
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farmers here are land owning rich bastards who hog water for water wasting plants, and beat and abuse their poor farmhands, many of them illegal immigrants trying to support their families.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/26/2023 12:22 AM
reminds me of a certain group of people that triggered a whole civil war over bottom line
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ironically these one acre farms are seeing a resergence of sorts in popularity due to their sheer usefulness in a post-covid world
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its a form of urban food oasis by proxy
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reminds me of a certain group of people that triggered a whole civil war over bottom line
honestly with the way they act, especially back in the 60s, they might have well been reincarnation of those bastards
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farmers here are land owning rich bastards who hog water for water wasting plants, and beat and abuse their poor farmhands, many of them illegal immigrants trying to support their families.
DevilTheAutopoet 7/26/2023 7:50 AM
This is true everywhere. Farmers are the richest poor people you'll ever meet. Asset rich and cash poor. Agriculture is an industry that works on very high revenues and very high expenses, resulting in a constant stream of capital reinvestment and very slim profit margins. It's not uncommon for farmers to be sitting on 10 million+ dollars of land and equipment while struggling to keep the lights on in their house. And this is also part of what leads them to being abusive to their employees in many cases. Similar to a lot of small business owners really. Ironically, employees are very often treated better working for big corporations than working for small businesses or farmers. Which is also why small business owners and farmers are overwhelmingly conservative and some of the ones who push the hardest against workers' rights.
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Nobody has more reason to hate the working class than people who are asset rich and cash poor. Ironically, mutualisation would actually solve all of their problems. But they don't see it that way for various different reasons.
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ITS ON THE NEWS
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/26/2023 3:14 PM
what
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what happened
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McConnell had a stroke
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/26/2023 3:16 PM
AW COME ONNN WHY DIDN'T IT KILL HIM
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that would have been fucking sick
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man is punished by the hand of god mid fucking conference
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/26/2023 4:00 PM
Too real
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MisterStompy 7/26/2023 5:04 PM
huh
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ah yes, nazi trash
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AvoidOblivion 7/26/2023 8:40 PM
NEW BERN, N.C. (WNCT) – A self-proclaimed founder and leader of a white supremacist gang, known as the Aryan Kings, was sentenced Wednesday to 25 years in prison for trafficking heroin and methamph…
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/26/2023 9:46 PM
AYYYEEEE
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leys fuckimg goooo
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The hell is Surrogacy??
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One, how are they gonna enforce that in the fucking EU? two, Third Trump indictment is coming
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I'm sorry, how in sam hell is this in any way enforceable abroad??
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yeah no way in hell
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especially in the EU
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You know how fascists seek to bewilder people through the sheer volume of atrocities they commit? Once you have comprehended and understood one atrocity they have committed five more, etc. Now, they seek to bewilder people though the sheer absurdity of their atrocities. It's no longer kill the [insert ethnic group here], it's kill the government because they made a sky dome to keep people from seeing god or some other such nonsense.
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They have weaponized their own followers disconnect from reality.
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You know how fascists seek to bewilder people through the sheer volume of atrocities they commit? Once you have comprehended and understood one atrocity they have committed five more, etc. Now, they seek to bewilder people though the sheer absurdity of their atrocities. It's no longer kill the [insert ethnic group here], it's kill the government because they made a sky dome to keep people from seeing god or some other such nonsense.
the problem is, this bewilderment soon sets into anger once it sets in. And its really easy to turn bewilderment into spite, Reality cares not for the fascists feelings and its our moral imperative to enforce that. On all fronts
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its why I argue on the "Street" level, we should be sowing spite and distrust towards conservatives. they can not be trusted.
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its why Democrats have such power in CA
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CA democrats be spiteful motherfuckers
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Incidents are coming
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wait
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ANOTHER ACCOUNT OF WILLFUL WITHHOLDING OF INTEL?!
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Honestly, republicans should go back to high school.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 7/28/2023 12:44 AM
"Matt Gaetz! I got you the underaged girl!" Michael Picard shouted as he interrupted the congressman's speech.
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In January 2022 however, party leader Jörg Meuthen resigned his party chairmanship with immediate effect and left the AfD, as according to him the party had developed very far to the right with totalitarian traits and in large parts was no longer based on the free-democratic basic order
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damn i didnt even hear about it
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and since then the AFD has exploded in the polls, sitting at 20% currently and aiming for 1st place in the polls
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behind the "more right wing than they've been in decades" CDU and CSU
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scary stuff
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.....pinga
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Headcannon Biden watched oppenheimer and got inspired
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BubsyFanboy 7/28/2023 12:08 PM
It found that the law may lead to violation of many humans irghts and might negatively impact the playing field ahead of this autumn's elections.
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Headcannon Biden watched oppenheimer and got inspired
nah, this is a cold war intimidation tactic
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/28/2023 1:54 PM
Ik ik, just headcannon
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MisterStompy 7/28/2023 6:23 PM
Black Republicans are getting torched because they don't like DeSantis' new education curriculum
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.@RonDeSantis, #1: slavery was not CTE! Nothing about that 400 years of evil was a “net benefit” to my ancestors. #2: there are only five black Republicans in Congress and you’re attacking two of them. My brother in Christ… 🤦🏾‍♂️ if you find yourself in a deep hole put the shovel… 【QRT of Marc Caputo (@MarcACaputo):】 '1/2 First … 💖 1004
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Black Republicans are getting torched because they don't like DeSantis' new education curriculum
ah the leopards are eating the faces again
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be a good time for community outreach
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Twitter says it has “a zero-tolerance child sexual exploitation policy.” Musk apparently doesn’t.
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Musk gets a german knocking in 3..2...
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Musk gets a german knocking in 3..2...
Good news is when he changes the name to X he’ll effectively self destruct what’s left there
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AvoidOblivion 7/28/2023 8:43 PM
The Australian government is subjecting refugees and asylum seekers to an elaborate and cruel system of abuse – brazenly flouting international law – just to keep them away from its shores, a new Amnesty International report says today. Based on months of research, including interviews with more than 100 people in Nauru and Australia, Amnesty […...
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MisterStompy 7/29/2023 4:55 PM
We continued "operating" them in the sense that a lot of people interned in them had literally nowhere else to go, but we didn't operate them in the style that the Nazis did. Even the gay prisoners we locked up after liberation (which we should not have done) got treated vastly better by allied guards than Nazi ones. And then later on we started throwing arrested SS guys in the camps to await trial which is really really funny.
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You wanna know who did continue to operate a concentration camp damn near exactly how the Nazis did after the war was over? The Soviet Union, with Buchenwald. (edited)
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We continued "operating" them in the sense that a lot of people interned in them had literally nowhere else to go, but we didn't operate them in the style that the Nazis did. Even the gay prisoners we locked up after liberation (which we should not have done) got treated vastly better by allied guards than Nazi ones. And then later on we started throwing arrested SS guys in the camps to await trial which is really really funny.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 7/29/2023 4:58 PM
Those guard barracks were pretty comfy, and if you need to figure out how to get the survivors home, not a bad idea to convert them into somewhere for them to stay
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Those guard barracks were pretty comfy, and if you need to figure out how to get the survivors home, not a bad idea to convert them into somewhere for them to stay
MisterStompy 7/29/2023 4:59 PM
Yeah I remember somebody else made a post about Americans being cruel because they "refused to feed the prisoners" but like, for a while you couldn't feed them more than like a slice of bread a day because their digestive system got so fucked up from starvation that if they started eating too much their stomachs would explode from the stress.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 7/29/2023 4:59 PM
Stick the guards in those prisoner “living” quarters, and give them what they deserve
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Stick the guards in those prisoner “living” quarters, and give them what they deserve
MisterStompy 7/29/2023 5:00 PM
That's what Eisenhower did with a bunch of surrendering SS guys, which led to a conspiracy theory that the REAL holocaust was America starving like 30 trillion German soldiers to death.
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I mean yeah they were cold and they didn't get much to eat but... fuck em.
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Ike's Teutoburg Retreat for Wayward Hitler Youth
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Yeah I remember somebody else made a post about Americans being cruel because they "refused to feed the prisoners" but like, for a while you couldn't feed them more than like a slice of bread a day because their digestive system got so fucked up from starvation that if they started eating too much their stomachs would explode from the stress.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 7/29/2023 5:02 PM
My great grandfather helped liberate one, and he wrote about that in his diary. They did give them basically as much as they wanted, but they got incredibly sick because of that, so the army medics had to come up with a regime to get them back to real food
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I mean yeah they were cold and they didn't get much to eat but... fuck em.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 7/29/2023 5:02 PM
Should have fucking hung them from piano wire from the camp gates IMO
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MisterStompy 7/29/2023 5:03 PM
Yeah I read this book about the liberation of Auschwitz and this one Soviet tank driver gave all of his spam and stuff to this little boy and he just died halfway through the meal. He was devastated, didn't know what he did wrong.
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Yeah I read this book about the liberation of Auschwitz and this one Soviet tank driver gave all of his spam and stuff to this little boy and he just died halfway through the meal. He was devastated, didn't know what he did wrong.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 7/29/2023 5:06 PM
He personally didn’t do anything wrong, just didn’t know what that kid went through. He wasn’t a doctor, and didn’t know what happened
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MisterStompy 7/29/2023 5:08 PM
There's a scene in Big Red One where this exact thing happens as they're liberating the Falkenau (?) concentration camp.
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Okay it was part of the Flossenburg camp, so I was more or less right.
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We continued "operating" them in the sense that a lot of people interned in them had literally nowhere else to go, but we didn't operate them in the style that the Nazis did. Even the gay prisoners we locked up after liberation (which we should not have done) got treated vastly better by allied guards than Nazi ones. And then later on we started throwing arrested SS guys in the camps to await trial which is really really funny.
that, and tbh, they were less prisoners and more "jfc what the fuck happened here" and it was easier to keep a eye on ex-prisoners in one place while they took reports and statements. and half "alright, time to line up the nazi guards and send em to their maker."
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and, as someone pointed out before, the nazis fucked up shit so much for them, that they had to figure out where they originally were from
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I'm pretty sure we also got the Nuremburg trials, in part, so Soldiers could stop just shooting or beating nazis to death every time they liberated a camp. Can't get total numbers or names from a corpse after all then we kill em Except Paperclip. Stupid Paperclip
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that was mentioned already
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earlier
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 7/29/2023 5:25 PM
Oops.
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np
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MisterStompy 7/29/2023 6:43 PM
"Taiwan is just standing there... BESIEGINGLY!"
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I mean
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when isn't Taiwan standing there Besiegingly? China been threatening them for a long time
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MisterStompy 7/29/2023 6:47 PM
let's just install a few minutemen silos in Taiwan
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/29/2023 7:49 PM
let them get a little bit silly with them
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 7/29/2023 8:59 PM
https://zapier.com/blog/you-cant-pull-yourself-up-by-your-bootstraps/ Even corporations admit that "pulling yourself up by your bootstraps" is impossible.
Pulling yourself up requires relying on something, or someone, else. You need help, which is why you can't "pull yourself up by your bootstraps." Here's why that matters.
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https://zapier.com/blog/you-cant-pull-yourself-up-by-your-bootstraps/ Even corporations admit that "pulling yourself up by your bootstraps" is impossible.
DevilTheAutopoet 7/29/2023 9:29 PM
I mean... that's literally the point of the saying. You can't pull yourself upward by way of the part of you that's on the ground. So the whole original point of the saying was to reference something that isn't possible.
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I mean... that's literally the point of the saying. You can't pull yourself upward by way of the part of you that's on the ground. So the whole original point of the saying was to reference something that isn't possible.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 7/29/2023 9:30 PM
The article mentions that. Apparently conservatives didn't get the memo.
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The article mentions that. Apparently conservatives didn't get the memo.
DevilTheAutopoet 7/29/2023 9:32 PM
It's kind like the saying "blood is thicker than water". The original saying was "the blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb". It literally has the exact opposite meaning of what people use it for.
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how do i explain how bad hamas is to this guy? he cant grasp the fact that they would be worse then israel if they control the region
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how do i explain how bad hamas is to this guy? he cant grasp the fact that they would be worse then israel if they control the region
joe hill’s revenge 7/30/2023 10:11 AM
Controversial opinion alert
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But Hamas deserves military support against Israel
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But Hamas deserves military support against Israel
DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 7/30/2023 10:14 AM
Hell no, Hamas is anti semitic.
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Fund secular groups like Fatah, PFLP and the PLO.
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But Hamas deserves military support against Israel
eww no
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thats fucking moronic
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like too the next level moronic
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA]
Hell no, Hamas is anti semitic.
joe hill’s revenge 7/30/2023 11:07 AM
Sure but isn’t real is genocidal and hamas was elected by the people in Gaza
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And Israel os besieging Gaza for their democratic vote
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its equal to saying "the kahanists deserve our military dupport"
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And Israel os besieging Gaza for their democratic vote
thsts not at all wbats happening
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they blockade the region because they think it makes them safer
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they could care less about elections
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in gaza
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they blockade the region because they think it makes them safer
joe hill’s revenge 7/30/2023 11:08 AM
Because the people they elected hamas
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of course its debable if it even makes them safer
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Because the people they elected hamas
hamas got more votes in the west bank then gaza ironically enough
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they couped the government in gaza when the PA refused to concede the election to such an islamist party
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i think that if palestine was given more at oslo hamas wouldnt have been nearly as popular
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA]
Fund secular groups like Fatah, PFLP and the PLO.
joe hill’s revenge 7/30/2023 1:21 PM
Why they r just as violent and probably the average member is just as anti semetic
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Why they r just as violent and probably the average member is just as anti semetic
DevilTheAutopoet 7/30/2023 7:00 PM
Fatah isn't at all. They support a two-state solution and are generally pretty moderate. PFLP has some issues of anti-semitism, but mostly they're just a Marxist-Leninist party. And PLO is an umbrella group that includes almost all Palestinian groups that oppose Hamas.
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And within the PLO, Fatah is the biggest by a large margin.
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Fatah isn't at all. They support a two-state solution and are generally pretty moderate. PFLP has some issues of anti-semitism, but mostly they're just a Marxist-Leninist party. And PLO is an umbrella group that includes almost all Palestinian groups that oppose Hamas.
joe hill’s revenge 7/30/2023 7:05 PM
I mean that’s the official line, but 1) fatah exercises a sort of dictatorship over the West Bank Palestinians and mostly manages the occupation on behalf of Israel
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2) all these groups engage in violence including violence against civilians and the average Palestinian probably doesn’t draw a clear line between Zionism and Jews because they live under an occupation that claims to act on behalf of the Jewish people as a group
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Especially now with the rise of the new groups like JB and LD
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DevilTheAutopoet 7/30/2023 7:10 PM
So which is it? Is it a group that operates a dictatorship on Israel's behalf, or is it a militant rebel group that engages in violence against Israel?
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you two better keep things civil
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also I agree with Devil
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Last group you'd want to support is Hamas
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DevilTheAutopoet 7/30/2023 7:12 PM
Cause it seems more like the latter, and their "cooperation" in the management of the territory with Israel is more of a necessity. And, personally, I'm inclined to think that violence committed in an attempt to liberate oneself from an apartheid state generally speaking is justifiable.
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2) all these groups engage in violence including violence against civilians and the average Palestinian probably doesn’t draw a clear line between Zionism and Jews because they live under an occupation that claims to act on behalf of the Jewish people as a group
DevilTheAutopoet 7/30/2023 7:12 PM
As for this, I think that's taking a very belittling view of Palestinians and their capacities for critical thinking.
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So which is it? Is it a group that operates a dictatorship on Israel's behalf, or is it a militant rebel group that engages in violence against Israel?
joe hill’s revenge 7/30/2023 7:12 PM
Both, just like prison gangs fight guards while ultimately defending the prison authority
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joe hill’s revenge
Both, just like prison gangs fight guards while ultimately defending the prison authority
DevilTheAutopoet 7/30/2023 7:13 PM
Generally speaking they do neither of those things.
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 7/30/2023 7:14 PM
Something interesting to add, this is a poster of a Christian Fatah martyr with the poster saying "In the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit"
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Graphic design is my pasion
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So which is it? Is it a group that operates a dictatorship on Israel's behalf, or is it a militant rebel group that engages in violence against Israel?
joe hill’s revenge 7/30/2023 7:16 PM
Fatah/the PA aren't elected, they haven't had elections in many years and they do engage in repression agaisnt critics and wide scale corruption. In fact, Fatah cancelled recent elections. Fatah's/PAs relationship to Israel is complex, but over the last few decades they have overseen the settling of Palestine by illegal settlements and haven't been able to stop them
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 7/30/2023 7:16 PM
Also, PLO fighters protecting a Lebanon synagogue.
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joe hill’s revenge 7/30/2023 7:16 PM
and they work with Israeli authorities in some areas; albeit less and less as Israels need to deal with any palestinian group diminishes
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Generally speaking they do neither of those things.
joe hill’s revenge 7/30/2023 7:19 PM
I didn't deploy that analogy correctly, i'm sorry. Some prison organizations in some prisons operate in line with the wardens, appointing trustees and trying to prevent some rioting and keeping out competition. They maintain rough law and order and settle beefs between themselves, and that makes prisons governable by the authorities. At hte same time of course, prison gangs break the law and prison rules everyday.
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Fatah/the PA aren't elected, they haven't had elections in many years and they do engage in repression agaisnt critics and wide scale corruption. In fact, Fatah cancelled recent elections. Fatah's/PAs relationship to Israel is complex, but over the last few decades they have overseen the settling of Palestine by illegal settlements and haven't been able to stop them
joe hill’s revenge 7/30/2023 7:21 PM
Postponed elections: https://carnegieendowment.org/sada/84509 On corruption:
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Wasta (favouritism) and nepotism constitute the most common manifestations of corruption, in particular in relation to appointments in public institutions. Corruption in economic sectors that have monopolistic features such as the petroleum sector and in land management remain issues of major concern
https://knowledgehub.transparency.org/assets/uploads/helpdesk/314-Overview_of_corruption_in_Palestine.pdf
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The PA has been violently obstructing prisoner release celebrations and confiscating party banners in recent months.
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Abbas only recently ended security cooperation with Israel, because of massive anger at Israeli attacks on the Temple Mount. https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/06/palestinian-authority-israel-west-bank-security-cooperation-suspended-mahmoud-abbas/
West Bank coordination is vital to Mahmoud Abbas’s and the Palestinian Authority’s survival. It’s also hugely unpopular among ordinary Palestinians.
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Fundmentally, the fact is that Israel is moving in for the kill on Palestine, they've won and all they need to do now is consolidate that victory
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joe hill’s revenge
Fatah/the PA aren't elected, they haven't had elections in many years and they do engage in repression agaisnt critics and wide scale corruption. In fact, Fatah cancelled recent elections. Fatah's/PAs relationship to Israel is complex, but over the last few decades they have overseen the settling of Palestine by illegal settlements and haven't been able to stop them
DevilTheAutopoet 7/30/2023 7:24 PM
I didn't say they weren't authoritarian. The PNA is absolutely an authoritarian government. I simply asserted they don't operate on Israel's behalf. Which, apart from them not deporting or imprisoning Jewish migrants, I don't think there's much evidence to say that they are. And that's not really evidence of cooperation with Israel so much as just, y'know, not being violently anti-semitic.
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I didn't say they weren't authoritarian. The PNA is absolutely an authoritarian government. I simply asserted they don't operate on Israel's behalf. Which, apart from them not deporting or imprisoning Jewish migrants, I don't think there's much evidence to say that they are. And that's not really evidence of cooperation with Israel so much as just, y'know, not being violently anti-semitic.
joe hill’s revenge 7/30/2023 7:26 PM
They have overseen the defeat of the Palestinian cause, maybe saying they operate on behalf of Israel is wrong. However, Israel is able to establish facts on the ground that the PA responds to
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So in effect, they are always forced to accept whatever new outrage the Palestinian people are forced to endure and sell it to their base
7:27 PM
The PA exists at Israel's discretion, all it would take is a few tanks and bombers to disperse the PA in the West Bank and establish direct rule from Tel Aviv (edited)
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA]
Fund secular groups like Fatah, PFLP and the PLO.
they arent good either
7:29 PM
funding groups is not a solution
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at least not governing groups
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best we can do is offer support to the israel left and secular palestinian groups
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secular is extra importsnt
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joe hill’s revenge 7/30/2023 7:30 PM
The only solution besides Israeli victory is a regional solution
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binational confederalism?
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thats my ideal
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but i dont think its currently viable
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two states is easier in the short term
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ideally we could try for two dates with trigger laws that slowly phase in a confederation
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So in effect, they are always forced to accept whatever new outrage the Palestinian people are forced to endure and sell it to their base
DevilTheAutopoet 7/30/2023 7:33 PM
The reason that the PNA has to be selective about what they do is precisely because we back Israel. They can't start an outright war, because they can't win one. They'd just end up getting the West Bank blown to shit by bombers just like Gaza Strip.
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best we can do is offer support to the israel left and secular palestinian groups
DevilTheAutopoet 7/30/2023 7:34 PM
All of the groups @DeepSouth [ATL, GA] listed are secular Palestinian groups.
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DevilTheAutopoet
All of the groups @DeepSouth [ATL, GA] listed are secular Palestinian groups.
whats their position on other things?
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do they support deportations? attacking civilians? democracy?
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etc
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Something interesting to add, this is a poster of a Christian Fatah martyr with the poster saying "In the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit"
martyrism is poison on society
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do they support deportations? attacking civilians? democracy?
DevilTheAutopoet 7/30/2023 7:36 PM
No, generally not, and theoretically yes but in practice no.
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DevilTheAutopoet
No, generally not, and theoretically yes but in practice no.
i personally think that if i ruled a country i would try to put funding towards creating a group
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you know, astroturfing (edited)
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Last group you'd want to support is Hamas
best you can manage is groups like the israeli left, or a few smaller palestinian groups
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i personally think that if i ruled a country i would try to put funding towards creating a group
DevilTheAutopoet 7/30/2023 7:38 PM
That takes a lot more resources and time than just influencing an existing group via material support.
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we need to find a group on each side to support
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shift things towards our goals
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DevilTheAutopoet 7/30/2023 7:39 PM
Best thing to do would be to support the PLO but leverage that support towards the implementation of democratic reforms.
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also the israel left
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they have a few seats
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and could gain support from the more secular and urban ashkenazi voters
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also they generally ally with arab parties in government
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but arab parties, with the expetion of communists, all have issues with conservatism religiousity or general obstinence.
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also the israel left
DevilTheAutopoet 7/30/2023 7:43 PM
The Israeli left are still Zionists. The only groups in Israeli politics that aren't Zionists are the ones that specifically represent Israeli Arabs.
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but arab parties, with the expetion of communists, all have issues with conservatism religiousity or general obstinence.
DevilTheAutopoet 7/30/2023 7:47 PM
This is the other thing. Israeli Arab groups are all either fundies or commies. And not the cool hippie/libertarian kind of commies either, but like send you to the gulag to get fucked in the ass with a shiv kind of commies. (edited)
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The Israeli left are still Zionists. The only groups in Israeli politics that aren't Zionists are the ones that specifically represent Israeli Arabs.
the israeli left are mostly post zionists, not zionists
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dont confuse the left with the "left"
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when i say left i mean actual socialists
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The reason that the PNA has to be selective about what they do is precisely because we back Israel. They can't start an outright war, because they can't win one. They'd just end up getting the West Bank blown to shit by bombers just like Gaza Strip.
joe hill’s revenge 7/30/2023 9:17 PM
That’s why I say the only solution is regional; a new United arab republic that claimed Palestinians as citizens and treated any attack on them the way israel treats an attack on its civilians.
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As long as it’s a war between stateless Palestine and the state of israel it will be a slow genocide
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uhh two states at war isnt good either
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joe hill’s revenge 7/30/2023 9:18 PM
Until someone can disperse the illegal settlements by force and return them to Palestinians tye settlements will expand
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uhh two states at war isnt good either
joe hill’s revenge 7/30/2023 9:19 PM
They’ve been at war fir 75 years; a state at war with a population
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its still war either way
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neither are good
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a peacefull option is a solution
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more war is just a shift in the shittyness
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this overly hyperbolic view of the situation makes it impossible to actually analize it
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the israeli left are mostly post zionists, not zionists
DevilTheAutopoet 7/30/2023 10:13 PM
Uh, no. Most of the Israeli left, by which I do mean socialists, are explicitly Zionists. Specifically, they're Labor Zionists.
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Uh, no. Most of the Israeli left, by which I do mean socialists, are explicitly Zionists. Specifically, they're Labor Zionists.
thats simply not ttue
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labor zionism is practically a dead ideology
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post zionism has been rising in the israeli left for a long time
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i am saying this as someone who actually knows people from the israeli left
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a peacefull option is a solution
joe hill’s revenge 7/30/2023 10:32 PM
There’s no peaceful option besides the defeat of Israel
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Arabs already tried that, and it went poorly. Very poorly
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labor zionism is practically a dead ideology
DevilTheAutopoet 7/30/2023 10:34 PM
Dude it's really not. Both the Israeli Labor Party and the left factions of National Unity appeal to Labor Zionism.
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Arabs already tried that, and it went poorly. Very poorly
joe hill’s revenge 7/30/2023 10:39 PM
Yes, because Israel is more United and because it’s backed by American imperialism
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Is this accurate?
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post zionism has been rising in the israeli left for a long time
DevilTheAutopoet 7/30/2023 10:45 PM
Post-Zionism was rising in the Israeli left. It's been in decline since the second Intifada. At this point any leftist group espousing Post-Zionism will be accused of being self-hating Jews and anti-Zionists and effectively excluded from the possibility of having any real political influence.
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Arabs already tried that, and it went poorly. Very poorly
yep
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Post-Zionism was rising in the Israeli left. It's been in decline since the second Intifada. At this point any leftist group espousing Post-Zionism will be accused of being self-hating Jews and anti-Zionists and effectively excluded from the possibility of having any real political influence.
slightly, but it has leveled out
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joe hill’s revenge
Is this accurate?
also this is shockingly accurate
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Yes, because Israel is more United and because it’s backed by American imperialism
We didn't back Isreal until the Yom-Kippur war, we weren't involved before then so by and large that doesn't count. And it's less the Isreali strength, more Arab weakness. Take for example the 6 day war, where the Egyptians lost tens of thousands of men because the IDF managed to carve its way through heavy resistance and the Egyptian command effectively caused a route via giving vague orders to fall back to the Suez. (edited)
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If the Arabs were competent, Isreal would have lost. But they were far from competent.
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We didn't back Isreal until the Yom-Kippur war, we weren't involved before then so by and large that doesn't count. And it's less the Isreali strength, more Arab weakness. Take for example the 6 day war, where the Egyptians lost tens of thousands of men because the IDF managed to carve its way through heavy resistance and the Egyptian command effectively caused a route via giving vague orders to fall back to the Suez. (edited)
this is correct
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also this is shockingly accurate
joe hill’s revenge 7/30/2023 11:03 PM
I don’t understand most of it tbh
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We didn't back Isreal until the Yom-Kippur war, we weren't involved before then so by and large that doesn't count. And it's less the Isreali strength, more Arab weakness. Take for example the 6 day war, where the Egyptians lost tens of thousands of men because the IDF managed to carve its way through heavy resistance and the Egyptian command effectively caused a route via giving vague orders to fall back to the Suez. (edited)
joe hill’s revenge 7/30/2023 11:04 PM
Before that uk support
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That still invalidates your statement. The US was not involved when it mattered in the late 40s-60s when it came to isreal, and the Yom Kippur war wasn't to destory Isreal, but to reclaim the Golan hights and the Sinai for Syria and Egypt respectivly, which Egypt was successful in. (edited)
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And I'm just going to put this out there: All the support in the world means jack s--t if the troops you're aiding don't want to fight.
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Maybe if the Arabs didn't have the clear intention of wiping Isreal off the face of the earth then the IDF wouldn't have felt the need to fight to the last bullet and drop of blood. (edited)
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Maybe if the Arabs didn't have the clear intention of wiping Isreal off the face of the earth then the IDF wouldn't have felt the need to fight to the last bullet and drop of blood. (edited)
exactly
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joe hill’s revenge
Before that uk support
the UK support was minimal
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LouisiAnarchist 7/31/2023 3:27 PM
Faith leaders around the country are building a resistance movement against Christian nationalism.
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DevilTheAutopoet 7/31/2023 3:44 PM
Damn. Whipping out the Proudhon. I like it.
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LouisiAnarchist 7/31/2023 4:10 PM
Proudhon's writings like that are really good, just wish I could endorse the author too lol
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Proudhon's writings like that are really good, just wish I could endorse the author too lol
DevilTheAutopoet 7/31/2023 5:07 PM
Yeah, both Proudhon and Bakunin were kinda shitty people unfortunately. Proudhon moreso than Bakunin.
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LouisiAnarchist 7/31/2023 5:08 PM
True, just a good reminder to judge work on its merits rather than on its creator
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True, just a good reminder to judge work on its merits rather than on its creator
DevilTheAutopoet 7/31/2023 5:13 PM
Yeah I'm a pretty big "death of the author" guy. And I say that as an author.
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MisterStompy 7/31/2023 6:36 PM
Israel was founded mainly by socialists, they actually tried to act as somewhat of a bridge between the Soviet Union and the United States for some time, it wasn't until the Soviet Union backed Arab forces during the Yom Kippur war that they shifted towards being a United States ally.
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Blame Stalin's crusade against "rootless cosmopolitans" for Israel's push to the right.
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I just left the interview of Devon Archer and I was the only member who stayed for the whole time. These are the facts: 1) Archer testified that Joe Biden NEVER discussed any business with Hunter and his associates. 2) there was no bribe from Burisma to Joe or Hunter. 💖 10681
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Hey can anyone helpfully debunk this article?
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MisterStompy 7/31/2023 10:52 PM
That's an... odd piece of advice to have to give so frequently. https://vxtwitter.com/aaronsibarium/status/1686035822850555904
Whenever I’m on a career advice panel for young conservatives, I tell them to avoid group chats that use the N-word or otherwise blur the line between edgelording and earnest bigotry. I’m often asked afterwards why I made a point of saying so. This is why.https://freebeacon.com/elections/in-private-messages-desantis-ally-pedro-gon… 💖 88
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DevilTheAutopoet
Damn. Whipping out the Proudhon. I like it.
didnt that guy want to exterminate the jews?
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Israel was founded mainly by socialists, they actually tried to act as somewhat of a bridge between the Soviet Union and the United States for some time, it wasn't until the Soviet Union backed Arab forces during the Yom Kippur war that they shifted towards being a United States ally.
if they stayed more leftist things would be better
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though many of their instatutions and organs if the state show marks of their former leftism
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didnt that guy want to exterminate the jews?
DevilTheAutopoet 7/31/2023 11:19 PM
Yeah, I mentioned he was a really shitty person.
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primarily groups like the histadrut and welfare programs
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and they did build entire towns to house immigrants
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(they turned out kinda bad, but they were still unique)
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AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 11:42 AM
@LouisiAnarchist I worded my phrasing in that message poorly. I'll have another go at it: The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact is an excellent example of how Stalin profited off the murder and genocide of minorities in Germany and Austria, as well as eventually Poland and the rest of Eastern Europe. Stalin did not care about Hitler's evil actions, and he may have actually preferred he do those over not; Stalin was making a profit and was allowed, albeit temporarily, to continue to kill minorities and political dissidents just as Hitler was doing without punishment. (edited)
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I'm sorry for the ping Trey, I forgot you were not in the US currently. I'll avoid it again in the future until you return to the US. (edited)
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@LouisiAnarchist @AIF Cuirassier regiment alright lets move it here then
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you start going on a rant about how stalin is a good dude saving us from the nazis
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despite enabling his wars for 3 years
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there are 3 arrows here for a reason
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im not gonna shit endlessly on cuba, i disagree with some stuff but any criticism of them is abotu the same criticism i'd give of a western european country
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and they're overall trending in a good direction too (edited)
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but lmfao fucking defending stalin in an iron front discord
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AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 11:45 AM
I'm content with letting Trey continue his arguments at a later point when it is not the early hours of the morning. What say you, @Evo?
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I'm content with letting Trey continue his arguments at a later point when it is not the early hours of the morning. What say you, @Evo?
i'm western european, i responded to his take when i woke up
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the US spans multiple timezones, people are free to reply whenever they want
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AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 11:46 AM
I saw it last night and decided to not engage. I saw it just recently and was not aware that it was 4:00 AM where he is and so engaged with him.
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yeah no i'm not gonna let people spout stalinist propaganda
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tankies have ruined too many leftist groups
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but lmfao fucking defending stalin in an iron front discord
LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 11:47 AM
Go fuck your self, keep my name out your mouth and your Nazi opinions to yourself
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AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 11:47 AM
I don't want it to happen either, but I do want to follow the rules of the server and engage in good faith debate. I may entirely disagree with the views that Trey has shared recently, and consider them tankie propaganda that is just as harmful as neo-Nazi propaganda, but I want any debate that happens to be in good faith.
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 11:47 AM
Fuck off y'all done escalated me beyond my fucking likity
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you start a rant in the meme channel and you get pissy when people reply back to you with evidence instead of fairy tales
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great stalin who didnt go in a breakdwon when the germans betrayed him lol
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great stalin who didnt try to join the axis lol
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 11:48 AM
I don't want a debate asshole you worked me up by @ing me at 4 AM
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i posted these messages 6 hours ago lol
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 11:48 AM
Its 10 am now ya
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I had to feed my kids and do shit this morning
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But you blowing up.my phone w your nonsense
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i tend to turn down my phone at night for discord
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 11:49 AM
Yeah wish I had.
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Don't @ me
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Fuck Hitler
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Stalin did a couple things good
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Bye
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yeah fuck hitler, papen and thalmann
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thats the whole thing
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 11:50 AM
Fuck western European gladio
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welcome to the iron front
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and ill say fuck to the USA, CIA, NSA and all other 3 letters group too if you want to
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 11:50 AM
And the SPD AND Social Fascist Democrats
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even the KPD opposed luxemburg at times lmao
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 11:50 AM
Luxembourg is a martyr
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and our dear friend stalin shipped back german communists to the reich
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our great leader
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 11:51 AM
Fuck you
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Bye
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Fuck Hitler
AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 11:51 AM
I agree. Hitler killed millions of people, and started a war that killed many more. Stalin allowed Hitler to continue with his war as he profited from it. Stalin's programs also killed millions of people. The University of Hawaii's highest estimate is that through famine, plague, and murder, Stalin killed upwards of 128 million.
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 11:51 AM
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I agree. Hitler killed millions of people, and started a war that killed many more. Stalin allowed Hitler to continue with his war as he profited from it. Stalin's programs also killed millions of people. The University of Hawaii's highest estimate is that through famine, plague, and murder, Stalin killed upwards of 128 million.
seems like an exaggeration, that would be half of the USSR population at the time
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AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 11:51 AM
Well, so much for debate.
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seems like an exaggeration, that would be half of the USSR population at the time
AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 11:52 AM
Those numbers are not just in the USSR, but countries that were under USSR influence, if I recall correctly.
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i mean if you intake china and korea and the like then maybe
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but i wouldnt attribute those to stalin directly
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but i wouldnt attribute those to stalin directly
AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 11:54 AM
You're correct, it was not direct, but much of it indirect. It can not be denied that Stalin himself ordered the systematic killing of millions of people without descending into the world of fairy tales and lies.
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I always find it entertaining when tankies think they can infest a location and get angry when called out.
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I always find it entertaining when tankies think they can infest a location and get angry when called out.
yeah
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and lets be clear, the US embargo of cuba is fucking awful garbage shit and should be ended right away
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the USSR did play the main role in defeating the nazis in combat
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and lets be clear, the US embargo of cuba is fucking awful garbage shit and should be ended right away
AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 12:03 PM
I absolutely agree. It's a petty move by the US government.
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but god damnit that doesnt give them a clean pass
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the USSR did play the main role in defeating the nazis in combat
AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 12:04 PM
They did indeed play a major role, and the number of soldiers present on the Eastern Front no doubt eased pressure on Allied forces in the other theaters of war.
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iirc about 80% of german combat death were caused by the soviets
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iirc about 80% of german combat death were caused by the soviets
AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 12:05 PM
I wouldn't be surprised, but as you said, it does not give them a clean pass.
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The point that was made here that just supports my accusations of a tankie being present is the claim that we are Nazis for saying that Stalin was a bad person.
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That close-minded and immature claim is of a type that I have only ever heard from authoritarian political extremists, be they left or right. The insistence that if you say one thing, it must mean you support another and nothing else, is just stupid.
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i typically have a somewhat nuanced take over the USSR under lenin and krushtchev because they did a lot of great things for their people, improving their livings conditions, progressive laws and such
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but, respectively, the crushing of krondstadt, and the crushing of hungary, invalidate those regimes
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the former is probably the most ironic one to me because the so called "soviet" unions left no real power to the actual soviets
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i typically have a somewhat nuanced take over the USSR under lenin and krushtchev because they did a lot of great things for their people, improving their livings conditions, progressive laws and such
AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 12:12 PM
The USSR did do a very few good things, mostly those which you just stated, but most of their acts were heinous and evil. (edited)
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The USSR did do a very few good things, mostly those which you just stated, but most of their acts were heinous and evil. (edited)
i think the one that annoyed me the most is "yeah but they turned russia and china from peasant backwater economies into superpower"
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sure but did it really require the deaths of millions?
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and for china it wasnt really true before after mao anyway
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AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 12:13 PM
I completely agree. The Great Leap forward is widely agreed upon as a failure that killed tens of millions of civilians in China.
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"them birds are eating the grains, lets kill the birds" the insects that the birds ate eat the grain "FUCK"
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it would be hilarious if it wasnt so fucking terrible
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and to get back to WW2 russia would have certainly won more easily if stalin hadnt executed two thirds of the officers in his purges too
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including the fucking dude who reformed the army in a way that allowed them to beat germany in the first place
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Mikhail Nikolayevich Tukhachevsky (Russian: Михаил Николаевич Тухачевский, tr. Mikhail Nikolayevich Tukhachevskiy, IPA: [tʊxɐˈtɕefskʲɪj]; 16 February [O.S. 4 February] 1893 – 12 June 1937), nicknamed the Red Napoleon, was a Soviet general who was prominent between 1918 and 1937 as a military officer and theoretician. He served as an officer in W...
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sure the dude definely wasnt a strong believer in communism lol, but he was a visionnary in terms of military strategy
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meanwhile this fucking dude survived because he was loyalist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semyon_Budyonny
Semyon Mikhailovich Budyonny (Russian: Семён Миха́йлович Будённый, tr. Semyon Mikháylovich Budyonnyy, IPA: [sʲɪˈmʲɵn mʲɪˈxajləvʲɪdʑ bʊˈdʲɵnːɨj] (listen); 25 April [O.S. 13 April] 1883 – 26 October 1973) was a Soviet cavalryman, military commander during the Russian Civil War, Polish-Soviet War and World War II, and politician, who was a close po...
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dude who thought the horses were better than tanks got the tank man executed
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Budyonny was a staunch proponent of horse cavalry. During the Great Purge, he testified against Mikhail Tukhachevsky's efforts to create an independent tank corps, claiming that it was so inferior to cavalry and illogical that it amounted to "wrecking" (sabotage). After being told of the importance of the tank in the coming war in 1939, he remarked, "You won't convince me. As soon as war is declared, everyone will shout, "Send for the Cavalry!"
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(spoiler: he got millions of soviet soldiers killed in the battle of kiev)
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sure the dude definely wasnt a strong believer in communism lol, but he was a visionnary in terms of military strategy
(and tbqf its not like most of the soviet "communists" didnt rush to become oligarchs the second the berlin wall fell)
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I completely agree. The Great Leap forward is widely agreed upon as a failure that killed tens of millions of civilians in China.
DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 12:24 PM
Personally my take on Mao is that he was a brilliant revolutionary, but when it came to being a political leader... he was a brilliant revolutionary. I generally like to compare him to George Washington. Both led revolutions against tyranny to great success and became hailed as heroes for it. However, once the revolution was over, people no longer needed revolution, they needed politics. I think neither Washington nor Mao particularly wanted to be political leaders, but it was a position they were thrust into by the circumstance of being heroes of the revolution. And once in that position, they had no idea what the fuck they were doing and their administrations ended up heavily marred by inefficient bureaucratic structures, authoritarian advisors with outsized leeway, and lack of infrastructure for communications and reporting. The big takeaway here, someone being a good revolutionary doesn't make them a good political leader. Stop making revolutionary heroes into political leaders by default, it doesn't work.
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reminds me of the red army fraktion (RAF). It was a west german based communist terrorist group. To their credit sometimes they were based, for exemple executing a former nazi turned banker. But then they got arrested by the government and sent to prison. They asked the PFLP (palestinian communists) to help them, and the PFLP hijacked a plane. Eventually the german special forces managed to rescue the passengers (but the terrorists had executed the pilots in the meantime). Learning of that, the RAF killed themselves in prison
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some of them survived, and guess what they became?
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Horst Mahler (born 23 January 1936) is a German former lawyer and political activist. He once was a far-left militant and a founding member of the Red Army Faction who later became a Maoist, before switching to neo-Nazism. Between 2000 and 2003, he was a member of the far-right National Democratic Party of Germany. Since 2003, he has repeatedly ...
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He once was a far-left militant and a founding member of the Red Army Faction who later became a Maoist, before switching to neo-Nazism. Between 2000 and 2003, he was a member of the far-right National Democratic Party of Germany. Since 2003, he has repeatedly been convicted of Volksverhetzung ("incitement of popular hatred") and Holocaust denial, and he served much of a twelve-year prison sentence.
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Personally my take on Mao is that he was a brilliant revolutionary, but when it came to being a political leader... he was a brilliant revolutionary. I generally like to compare him to George Washington. Both led revolutions against tyranny to great success and became hailed as heroes for it. However, once the revolution was over, people no longer needed revolution, they needed politics. I think neither Washington nor Mao particularly wanted to be political leaders, but it was a position they were thrust into by the circumstance of being heroes of the revolution. And once in that position, they had no idea what the fuck they were doing and their administrations ended up heavily marred by inefficient bureaucratic structures, authoritarian advisors with outsized leeway, and lack of infrastructure for communications and reporting. The big takeaway here, someone being a good revolutionary doesn't make them a good political leader. Stop making revolutionary heroes into political leaders by default, it doesn't work.
Mao was a fantastically succesfull military leader and revolutionnary, and on paper, the basic principle of maoism makes sense (china was too backwards for a revolution from the workers so they mainly targted the peasants for recruitment)
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And the KMT under Chiang were complete morons and I definetly sympathise with anyone who chose mao over chiang
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but yeah, after the civil war... jesus fuck what a fucking disaster
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AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 12:29 PM
The only thing Horseshoe Theory gets correct is that authcoms are very close to fascists. It is no surprise that a tankie terrorist turned into a neo-Nazi. Other than that, the Horseshoe Theory is utter garbage.
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The only thing Horseshoe Theory gets correct is that authcoms are very close to fascists. It is no surprise that a tankie terrorist turned into a neo-Nazi. Other than that, the Horseshoe Theory is utter garbage.
horseshoe theory only makes sense if you consider politics as a binary left/right thing
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then yeah, a tankie and a fascist arent too far appart in terms of how they act lol
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and while i'm not gonna give credit to the political compass, it sure is certain that politics is more than a single left right axis
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horseshoe theory only makes sense if you consider politics as a binary left/right thing
AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 12:31 PM
Indeed. Politics is not binary, and just like sexuality/gender, any shape it could be accurately given is incomprehensible. It is never a constant, and defining the shape is an impossible task.
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turns out people who agree that authoritarianism is the way to go, that the jews control the world, that the USA must be destroyed, and so on, might end up liking each other more than they hate each other
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and this is how you end up with the weirdest, most fucked up things such as in ukraine, with, on the russian side, conservatives, fascists, monarchists, communists and on the ukrainian side fascists, liberals, conservatives, anarchists
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though for ukraine its more like that they tolerate each other than actually work together, in russia its really because they have a hard on for imperialism
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russian anarchists are pretty much the only ones doing actual work against the russian government (edited)
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And the KMT under Chiang were complete morons and I definetly sympathise with anyone who chose mao over chiang
DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 12:34 PM
Chiang was a fucking bastard. The KMT would've established libertarian socialism in China if not for him (by the time Chiang started to gain power, the KMT was almost entirely run by anarchists).
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The Combat Organization of Anarcho-Communists (Russian: Боевая организация анархо-коммунистов, romanized: Boyevaya organizatsiya anarkho-kommunistov; BOAK) is a militant anarcho-communist organization in Eastern Europe, part of the Belarusian and Russian partisan movement. It aims for social revolution and a libertarian socialist society. Since ...
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DevilTheAutopoet
Chiang was a fucking bastard. The KMT would've established libertarian socialism in China if not for him (by the time Chiang started to gain power, the KMT was almost entirely run by anarchists).
yep, after all the CCP was part of the KMT for a long time
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until he decided to fucking murder them
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/1/2023 12:35 PM
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omg nuanced takes!
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 12:37 PM
I've noticed more and more organizations like BOAK fusing elements of Post-Left and Social Anarchist analysis and praxis.
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AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 12:38 PM
I do love political discussions that stay civilized.
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AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 12:38 PM
I've heard of them before. They're quite small, but even small sparks can contribute to a great fire.
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I've noticed more and more organizations like BOAK fusing elements of Post-Left and Social Anarchist analysis and praxis.
i'd like to know more about if if you have any ressources
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i'd like to know more about if if you have any ressources
DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 12:40 PM
About the Post-Left/Social divide and re-synthesis?
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About the Post-Left/Social divide and re-synthesis?
yeah
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 12:40 PM
Yeah, I can gather some stuff together. It's... a lot though.
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no worries, i'm not much of a theory reader because from experience the "read theory persons" often tend to be the most unsufferable persons ever and i probably do have ADD, but sometimes you end up on people who link actually helpful ressources and interesting reads
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 12:42 PM
As proud as Marxists are of their theory and how frequently they bitch at anarchists to "read theory", the body of anarchist theory actually fucking dwarfs that of Marxism.
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i think i read a comment recently that has stuck with me, "reading theory that is 150 years old and taking it at face value is about the same as reading the "origin of species" from darwin himself and expect to have an accurate representation of evolution theory"
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theres a lot of things that marxists got wrong, but that doesnt mean there was no basis to build upon either, but it had to evolve over time
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often bugs me how "scientific socialists" use das kapital as a gospel for exemple
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like i typically often "change my ideology" over experience. I don't do 180s obviously lol, i'm never gonna be in support of laissez faire capitalism or authoritarianism, but i do make more and more nuance to think about what type of society i would like to live in and what i can do to make my life, and the live of those around me, better
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 12:50 PM
This book by Daniel Guerin is a really good explainer of the history of Anarchism.
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This book discusses the history of how Marxism and Anarchism have influenced each other, and takes a deep dive into the theoretical divides of anarchism as a result.
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To get into the dirt and grime of it, we have to go back to the origins of anarchism as a political current.
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To get into the dirt and grime of it, we have to go back to the origins of anarchism as a political current.
thank you very much!
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 12:58 PM
Pierre-Joseph Proudhon was the one who coined the term anarchism. He was largely inspired by Fourier and the thought of Utopian Socialists and Classical Radicals.
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His thought was systemic and realist. He argued on the basis of analysis of collective systems and social constructs for the deconstruction of human society and the implementation of society built on the elimination of coercion and authority.
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interestingly where i live, we talk about proudhon and fourier in high schools!
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very much surface level of course
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it was quite a many years ago so i couldnt tell you where we learned but we basically had a quick glance at the evolution of socialism, with utopian socialism in particular
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 1:01 PM
Max Stirner was one of the Young Hegelians, and a contemporary of Marx. He was predominantly inspired by the works of skeptical philosophers of the Enlightenment era and by the Chinese philosophy of Taoism.
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This book by Daniel Guerin is a really good explainer of the history of Anarchism.
AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 1:03 PM
I'm currently reading this book. It's been a month or so since I last picked it up, but I believe I am still early on reading Stirner's writings, or perhaps the one after him. It is excellent and interesting to read, but I do disagree with some of what has been said and struggle to understand it in some places.
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 1:04 PM
Stirner arrived at many of the same conclusions as Proudhon, but took an entirely different route in getting there. His analysis is psychopolitical. He analyses the individual, the mind, and engages in an ontology derived from the destruction of the fact-value distinction, engaging in a prototypical form of eliminative materialism to deconstruct various social constructs on an entirely individualist basis. (edited)
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This was the very first divide amongst anarchists. Egoists vs Mutualists. Every divide in anarchism since then stems back to these two, and the evolution of those strains of thought due to analysis of changing conditions and influence from other philosophies and political theories.
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Out the Egoist/Mutualist divide came the Individualist/Collectivist divide. And out of that came the Post-Left/Social divide. Now we're increasingly seeing an outgrowth from that into the Accelerationist/Collapsitarian divide. I'll expand on what that evolution has looked like and what each of those has entailed in a bit. For now I have to attend to something irl.
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this all sounds very interesting, if a bit daunting. the one from Prichard & co seems interesting to start with, and well proudhon too
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this all sounds very interesting, if a bit daunting. the one from Prichard & co seems interesting to start with, and well proudhon too
AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 1:15 PM
It is daunting. There is much to be learned so I recommend reading them, even if in just small bursts at a time. No Gods, No Masters is a long book to read.
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omg nuanced takes!
LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:01 PM
Wow crazy yall start doing that AFTER I leave, really kind of all of yall to think you can school me completely then backtrack on all the shit you said after I'm muted, this is why I told yall to fuck off right here.
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In future You both can leave me out of discussions, because you show your true colors when someone is trying to be nuanced themselves, and then backtrack and start parroting the same shit I said, albeit Oblivion is INSANE for saying those 128 million are even indirectly linked to the Comintern
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That's literal Black Book Of Communism Nazi propaganda
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That's parroting the line of Nazis
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Supported the Iraq and Vietnam wars, what a source for facts yall
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"global warming is a scam for power"
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That's literal Black Book Of Communism Nazi propaganda
Pretty much what I suspected yes
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:09 PM
So why are we giving Stalin QUINTILLION deaths and doing Holocaust apologism by making Stalin the worse of the two of them
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Why don't we just blame FDR for the great depression and count all those deaths and every one in south america killed by a fruit company
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Because millions did die because of him, and oblivion did say most of those are not attributable to Stalin directly
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Why don't we just blame FDR for the great depression and count all those deaths and every one in south america killed by a fruit company
I would blame FDR for the Japanese internment camp though
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:10 PM
They're not even indirect, he did not rule the place without a bureaucracy he had people under him who made decisions independent of him
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People act like he was stamping ever damn document
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He personally signed off on a large portion of the great purges
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Like, yeah he quite literally did sign up for those
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:11 PM
Capitalism as engineered and controlled by the heights of the wealthy has been responsible for more human death and misery than the entirety of the communist project, it is no comparison
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Ok but I didn't say otherwise
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:12 PM
What Stalin did was both bad things and good things the USSR was responsible for the greatest uptick in living standards IN HISTORY before Mao
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You can whatabout a leftist as much as you want it won't get you very far
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:12 PM
That is what I maintained the whole time
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Yeah capitalism sucks hard and should be removed
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:12 PM
Communism was deadly because it competed with a deadlier system of exploitation
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not because it's like "the authcom demons"
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Doesn't mean I'll sign up for paranoid dictatorships who proudly destroy the environment then wonder where the bad harvests come from
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:13 PM
Whether or not Stalin is better or worse than Hitler is of no consequence to me. Asking me "would you rather have Stalin or Hitler" is like asking me "would you rather have HIV or full blown AIDS?"
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(Aka the 4 pest campaigns)
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:13 PM
Holy shit is anyone suggesting we do stalinism again in this chat?
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NOt me
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You did say it was the largest standards of living increase
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:13 PM
I'd much rather prefer neither, thank you very much.
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If thats true why not do it again
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Evo
You did say it was the largest standards of living increase
LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:13 PM
Because it's true
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BECAUSE WERE NOT FUCKING PEASANTS
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2:14 PM
1917 russia wasnt much different from 1517 russia
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Ah so we need to strong arm the "fucking peasants" because they're too stupid
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:14 PM
No
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what
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how
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how could you get that from what i sadi
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LouisiAnarchist
1917 russia wasnt much different from 1517 russia
MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:14 PM
Stalin didn't take power in 1917 and neither did the Bolsheviks. The Bolsheviks took power by overthrowing an interim government because Lenin was asshurt that he didn't win an election.
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MisterStompy
Stalin didn't take power in 1917 and neither did the Bolsheviks. The Bolsheviks took power by overthrowing an interim government because Lenin was asshurt that he didn't win an election.
LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:14 PM
Shittalk Lenin and we are done talking you and I
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MisterStompy
Stalin didn't take power in 1917 and neither did the Bolsheviks. The Bolsheviks took power by overthrowing an interim government because Lenin was asshurt that he didn't win an election.
The name bolshevik itself is a lie lol
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Same for the soviet union tbqh
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Evo
Ah so we need to strong arm the "fucking peasants" because they're too stupid
LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:15 PM
I am saying because both Mao and Stalin had to industrialize nations for war against them, they did alot of the same dumb mistakes capitalists did (edited)
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LouisiAnarchist
Shittalk Lenin and we are done talking you and I
MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:15 PM
I just fucking did. If Lenin had any balls he would have capped Stalin when he had the chance.
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LouisiAnarchist
Shittalk Lenin and we are done talking you and I
Krondstadt Bye bye I guess lol
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:15 PM
Yall are Nazi apologists dude
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Ahahahahaha
2:16 PM
I was waiting for it so hard
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:16 PM
str8 up would rather be living under a world where hitler won
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Stalin defeated Germany
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Period
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 2:16 PM
I don't think the Kronstadt rebels were Nazis...
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It started because I pointed out the ussr working with hitler
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Evo
Krondstadt Bye bye I guess lol
MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:16 PM
Me when I mercilessly slaughter farmers who want to take a break (they are counterrevolutinaries working for the British government)
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:16 PM
No Krondstadt also bad
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how
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So now I'm the nazi supporter instead of your guys
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:16 PM
hwo could I endorse them oppressing revolutionaries
2:17 PM
Yall keep ignoring me
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:17 PM
US: The Soviet Union shouldn't have given all those resources to the Nazis You: SO YOU WANTED THE FUCKING NAZIS TO WIN?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:17 PM
Yall keep putting words in my fuckign mouth and its really immature and gross
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I'm done arguing w sub 25 mushbrains
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grow up
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US: The Soviet Union shouldn't have given all those resources to the Nazis You: SO YOU WANTED THE FUCKING NAZIS TO WIN?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
That + his comment below
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Golden
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:17 PM
let your brain set up for good
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then talk to me when you're an adult
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:17 PM
Sir I'm 67 years old and I've been doing nothing but eating cauliflower for the past 20 years, my brain is made of solid protein.
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Hey were not the ones butthurt about the third arrow, read the room
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:18 PM
I'm 36 yrs old w 2 kids to raise, aint raising yalls parents kids
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When you hit 26 DM me
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Done this debate and tango for a 5 yrs now
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yall do the same dance moves as every radlib and psued anarchist befor you
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It's exhausting to have the same debate for half a decade
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 2:19 PM
I don't think "You disagree with me and therefore you must be an immature child" is a strong argument.
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:19 PM
I'm not gonna have somebody "America bad" nonstop while attempting to downplay the atrocities of the Soviet Union and Joseph Stalin. If you don't like one, then don't approve of the other.
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:19 PM
when I know ultimately I'm right and yes it's because they're kids
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LouisiAnarchist
I'm 36 yrs old w 2 kids to raise, aint raising yalls parents kids
So when you're done with your ageism will you start touching grass or are you just begging for a ban through antagonizing the entier server?
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:20 PM
Noone downplayed anything but I keep getting accused of it
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DevilTheAutopoet
I don't think "You disagree with me and therefore you must be an immature child" is a strong argument.
DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 2:20 PM
In fact, I think it's technically an ad hominem.
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Evo
So when you're done with your ageism will you start touching grass or are you just begging for a ban through antagonizing the entier server?
LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:20 PM
Sorry that age is a real number not just a state of mind (edited)
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:20 PM
I am going to personally resurrect Sablin and have him come down here.
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DevilTheAutopoet
In fact, I think it's technically an ad hominem.
LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:20 PM
Yes I did something that violated the debatelord pedant mind palace
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LouisiAnarchist
Sorry that age is a real number not just a state of mind (edited)
Too bad you didn't use your additional decade over all of us to accomplish socialism then
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:20 PM
I would also love to restrict the free speech of actual nazis, not you foolish children but dangerous people
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:21 PM
Dude I'm not a "debatelord", I am not somebody who does debates. The only debates I watch are the hilarious ones where people scream at each other, kind of like this one.
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Evo
Too bad you didn't use your additional decade over all of us to accomplish socialism then
LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:21 PM
Yall aren't even researching anything yere
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BashTheFash is doing actual work
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I see actual results from what they do
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This third arrow nonsense won't get you anywhere it's fighting phantoms, Zstans and Hazdorks are a frittering minority of "communists" they arent even real communists
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Stop trying to fix history and work on the present like mature people would
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All this shit is armchair
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Evo
The name bolshevik itself is a lie lol
AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/1/2023 2:22 PM
wasn't it meant to be the majority but they where not popular?
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LouisiAnarchist
This third arrow nonsense won't get you anywhere it's fighting phantoms, Zstans and Hazdorks are a frittering minority of "communists" they arent even real communists
MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:22 PM
Dude even I think that the third arrow should be replaced with theocracy, I'm just saying I don't want tankies to subvert our movements.
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LouisiAnarchist
Yall aren't even researching anything yere
Why are you even here if you're only here to shit on the basic principles that keep us all here (the three arrows) and antagonize everyone who has a 1% disagreement with you
2:23 PM
You're just looking for a fight
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MisterStompy
Dude even I think that the third arrow should be replaced with theocracy, I'm just saying I don't want tankies to subvert our movements.
LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:23 PM
The "tankies" are barely 1000 people
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how many subs does Haz have
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:23 PM
Listen, don't let this argument distract you from the fact that in 1998, The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer's table.
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:23 PM
that's how many tankies exist
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Evo
Why are you even here if you're only here to shit on the basic principles that keep us all here (the three arrows) and antagonize everyone who has a 1% disagreement with you
LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:23 PM
Because people have been chasing me w this debate for like 3 days
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And before that more days
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:24 PM
The issue is that tankies and accelerationists try to promote apathy in response to encroaching fascism, similar to the KPD in the 20's and 30's.
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:24 PM
I said one thing like a week ago and it wont stop
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All I did was reply to your yesterday comment on my morning and you've been acting bitchy since
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MisterStompy
The issue is that tankies and accelerationists try to promote apathy in response to encroaching fascism, similar to the KPD in the 20's and 30's.
LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:24 PM
But again it's like 1000 people
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it's not even a majority of the CPUSA
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It's a frittering minority'
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Lmao cpusa
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:24 PM
CPUSA does more than this org does, guaranteed
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They fight fash on the ground in Nola and kicked out all the Haz tankies too
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Yeah they're great if you wanna know who is a fed lmao
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LouisiAnarchist
it's not even a majority of the CPUSA
MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:25 PM
Bro I'm not worried about CPUSA, they're a fucking meme. I'm worried about people like Party for Socialism and Liberation who show up to counterprotests against Nazis, take a few selfies, and then just fucking leave ten seconds later while saying nobody else does anything.
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Talking of which, you're currently applying the CIA strategy of destroying leftist group to the letter rn
2:25 PM
Congratulations
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:25 PM
PSL is a goofball org too, just as small as the Haz fandom
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LMAO
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LouisiAnarchist
PSL is a goofball org too, just as small as the Haz fandom
MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:25 PM
holy shit thank you
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:25 PM
sure Evo, I'm the glowie
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MisterStompy
holy shit thank you
LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:25 PM
I'm in DSA
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You're calling me a nazi supporter
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I'm allowed to call you a fed
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:26 PM
Come on I don't think Trey is a glowie, I'm the one who advocated for a militant suppression of Florida, if anybody's an agent it's me.
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:26 PM
I called you one for saying that you think Stalin was as bad as Hitler and continuing with it
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MisterStompy
Come on I don't think Trey is a glowie, I'm the one who advocated for a militant suppression of Florida, if anybody's an agent it's me.
LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:26 PM
Hey that's an idea
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MisterStompy
Come on I don't think Trey is a glowie, I'm the one who advocated for a militant suppression of Florida, if anybody's an agent it's me.
Florida is a GOP invention, it's not real
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:26 PM
Honestly we just need to extract our comrades from florida then beseige them so they can't get supplies
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Once the coffee and donuts run out, the boomers will concede to our demands
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:27 PM
Florida is now experiencing Nazi Germany's brain drain, they'll be fucked in five years.
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LouisiAnarchist
I called you one for saying that you think Stalin was as bad as Hitler and continuing with it
"Stalin is as bad as hitler" "Therefore you support Hitler????" No wonder you think your 6yo has more maturity (edited)
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Which, tbf I didn't say
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"Stalin is as bad as hitler" "Therefore you support Hitler????" No wonder you think your 6yo has more maturity (edited)
LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:28 PM
Because you're saying you'd rather Stalin didn't exist so you're saying you don't want the Allies to win WW2
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:28 PM
Speaking of brain drain, you wanna know the difference between American anti-communism and Nazi anti-communism? America encouraged people to leave communist countries and come to the US so that they could help us fight the Soviets, the Nazis just thought everyone who was Slavic was genetically predestined to be communists.
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I said he supported his regime through economic links and a will to join the axis
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They're different evils
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:28 PM
2 years
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:28 PM
That's how you win wars, by winning over the people of the other country, not slaughtering everyone.
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:28 PM
how many years did IBM and IG Farbin have US backing and money
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AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 2:28 PM
Trey, I have one question to ask you, that has a second part to it. After that I just have some comments to make: How can you call a group of people who have almost solely focused on taking down Nazis and fascists, Nazis, just because they pointed out that Stalin also killed millions of people? Why do you have so much trouble understanding a little something called "nuance?"
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LouisiAnarchist
how many years did IBM and IG Farbin have US backing and money
Ok but I haven't said anything about that Keep whatabouting it lol
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And why did it only last two years?
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Was it because the ussr grew balls and opposed the Nazis?
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:29 PM
And my final thought on this is that Hitler and Stalin were both evil but completely different in their motivations. Hitler knew exactly what his end goals were when he did the shit he did, but Stalin mostly decided to purge and massacre on a paranoid whim. The only time Stalin did something that was calculated with a clear political goal in mind was the Katyn massacre.
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Or, you know, what really happened lol
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Evo
Ok but I haven't said anything about that Keep whatabouting it lol
LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:29 PM
Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.
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I didn't say anything about that
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That's bad too
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:30 PM
I will keep whatabouting the difference in time length of the Nazis and the Soviets "alliance" (hostage situation)
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:30 PM
And I've already made perfectly clear how "antifascist" communists were before Operation Barbarossa.
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There were many collaborators in the west too, I didn't say anything else, you're just trying to whatabout it
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Evo
There were many collaborators in the west too, I didn't say anything else, you're just trying to whatabout it
LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:30 PM
for 2 years
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2 years
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two fucking years
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:30 PM
Well, communists aligned with the Soviets anyway, the commies in Italy were usually pretty on top of opposing Mussolini.
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LouisiAnarchist
for 2 years
WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THOSE TWO YEARS????
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:31 PM
not a decade not 3 years 2 mothefucking years
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DID THE USSR REVOKE THEM
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:31 PM
It doesnt matter what happened it was two fucking years
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DID THE USSR OPPOSE GERMANY
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NO
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DID THEY GET FUCKING INVADED? FUCKING YES
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LouisiAnarchist
I'm 36 yrs old w 2 kids to raise, aint raising yalls parents kids
AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/1/2023 2:31 PM
doesn't this make your argument worse, you can't just agree to disagree or let it go or tke the fucking loss
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AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 2:31 PM
Trey, something you have said is that the USSR did some good things and bad things; that is a nuanced take. When we present you with nuanced takes, you ignore them and attack us. Why should we take you seriously anymore? Your arguments consist of calling us Nazis, Nazi sympathizers, immature, and various other attacks while providing nothing of substance. You present a nuance take, we agree with the nuance. We present one, you attack.
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:31 PM
While America was giving guns and tanks to the people fighting the Nazis, the Soviets were giving food, rubber, oil and steel to the Nazis.
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2:32 PM
The last rubber shipment to Nazi Germany from the Soviet Union took place literal hours before Operation Barbarossa.
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MisterStompy
While America was giving guns and tanks to the people fighting the Nazis, the Soviets were giving food, rubber, oil and steel to the Nazis.
Which was gonna be used to invade them lol Fucking idiots
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MisterStompy
The last rubber shipment to Nazi Germany from the Soviet Union took place literal hours before Operation Barbarossa.
Despite british warnings of an imminent invasion too
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Evo
Which was gonna be used to invade them lol Fucking idiots
AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/1/2023 2:32 PM
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:32 PM
Yall refuse to acknowledge that the Pact was made to prevent invasion by the Germans
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:33 PM
Were the soldiers of the Red Army and the command staff such as Zhukov instrumental in crushing the Nazi war machine? Absolutely. But Stalin had very little to do with that outside of maybe the only smart thing he did in his life, that being staying the fuck out of it when shit hit the fan.
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:33 PM
To prevent the USSR from being invaded
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Worked so well
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/1/2023 2:33 PM
They still got invaded tho
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lmao
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:33 PM
Yall act like it was some thing that's natural to communism to ally w nazis
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LouisiAnarchist
To prevent the USSR from being invaded
MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:33 PM
The joint invasion of Poland and the annexation of Baltic countries was just a bonus.
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No one said that
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Stop the strawmen
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LouisiAnarchist
Yall act like it was some thing that's natural to communism to ally w nazis
MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:33 PM
Hey man, quick question, can you tell me which SDP figure stated "After Hitler, our turn!"
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/1/2023 2:33 PM
Was the soviet union really communist?
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i have my doubts about that
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Hey man, quick question, can you tell me which SDP figure stated "After Hitler, our turn!"
LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:34 PM
I can tell you which one put down the revolution in germany
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MisterStompy
Hey man, quick question, can you tell me which SDP figure stated "After Hitler, our turn!"
And which SPD politicaks shipped german communists to Hitler
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:34 PM
in ALLIANCE WITH THE FREIKROPS
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LouisiAnarchist
in ALLIANCE WITH THE FREIKROPS
MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:34 PM
Guys why are they shooting us we just tried to violently overthrow the government
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:34 PM
The SPD were the best friend the NDSP could ever have
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Nsdap didn't exist at the time
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AIF Cuirassier regiment
Was the soviet union really communist?
AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 2:34 PM
Spinner argued some months ago that the USSR was not communist as their authoritarian government ran in direct opposition of the heart of communist belief.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/1/2023 2:35 PM
Yeah I agree with that
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LouisiAnarchist
Yes I did something that violated the debatelord pedant mind palace
DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 2:35 PM
Because you have to be a pedantic debatelord to argue in good faith?
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:35 PM
The Spartacus League (German: Spartakusbund) was a Marxist revolutionary movement organized in Germany during World War I. It was founded in August 1914 as the International Group by Rosa Luxemburg, Karl Liebknecht, Clara Zetkin, and other members of the Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD) who were dissatisfied with the party's official pol...
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Spinner argued some months ago that the USSR was not communist as their authoritarian government ran in direct opposition of the heart of communist belief.
Inb4 "socialist state before we can be communist"
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Any day now
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LouisiAnarchist
in ALLIANCE WITH THE FREIKROPS
MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:35 PM
Also the KPD sided with the Freirkorps, Der Stahlhem and the NSDP against the SDP in multiple attempts to to overthrow local governments via flash referendum.
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Look at china, they'll be communist within 10 years or something lmao
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/1/2023 2:36 PM
Soon!™
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:36 PM
I'm so tired, yall are so tiring w this dogpiling bulshit
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:36 PM
And when their revolution got put down they were all just sitting around playing Grateful Dead songs in a jam circle in Berlin, right? They were doing absolutely nothing else?
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:36 PM
They were doing the People's work
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Overthrowing the shitty weimar govt
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LouisiAnarchist
I'm so tired, yall are so tiring w this dogpiling bulshit
AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/1/2023 2:36 PM
Then why did you not stop while you had the chance
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:36 PM
because it's too tempting to keep yall going
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LouisiAnarchist
Overthrowing the shitty weimar govt
MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:37 PM
That was elected by the people.
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:37 PM
By the Bourgois election yes
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/1/2023 2:37 PM
Mfr Germany got figuratively shot in the legs after their 1914-1918 fucky wucky of course its gonna be an awful time
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LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:37 PM
Alright fr now stop @ing me I'll leave
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i'm leaving this convo
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:37 PM
The communists in Germany almost collectively decided that the Nazis would be better than the Weimar government. They were wrong.
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MisterStompy
The communists in Germany almost collectively decided that the Nazis would be better than the Weimar government. They were wrong.
LouisiAnarchist 8/1/2023 2:38 PM
You're thinking of the SPD
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You're thinking of the SPD
MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:38 PM
Literally the opposite of the truth.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/1/2023 2:38 PM
"I'm leaving this convo" Adds to the convo
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LouisiAnarchist
Alright fr now stop @ing me I'll leave
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:39 PM
The KPD viewed the SPD as the "real fascists" and said that "One should not let a forest of Nazis overshadow the Social Democrat threats". They believed that the Nazis needed to come to power in order to enact "revolutionary crisis" because the Weimar government wasn't bad enough to coax people into a communist revolution.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/1/2023 2:39 PM
very silly of you
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hehe
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:39 PM
Multiple times the SPD attempted to form a voting block with the KPD against the Nazis, the KPD refused every single time.
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very silly of you
Idk I'm just tired of this revisionist bullshit, antagonism, surface level knowledge of history, strawmen and whataboutism to avoid replying pertinant answers, and a huge amount of cognitive dissonance really
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AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 2:40 PM
Trey has been stating since the start of this that he doesn't think or care about us, and that he doesn't have the time. The results are in: that was a lie.
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:40 PM
Adolf Hitler once said "You can turn a communist into a nationali socialist, and perhaps a national socialist into a communist, but I have yet to turn a social democrat into a national socialist."
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Someone who refuses to change their mind when presented with evidence isn't worth discussing in good faith, because they are not discussing in good faith
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Use every fucking fallacy in the book including ad hominems
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:43 PM
I'm ending with this: Yes, there were communists that resisted the Nazis before and after their takeover of Germany and during the early years of World War 2, but they were NOT the ones connected to the Soviet controlled comintern. Stalin was not an antifascist until the fascists came for him.
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I'm ending with this: Yes, there were communists that resisted the Nazis before and after their takeover of Germany and during the early years of World War 2, but they were NOT the ones connected to the Soviet controlled comintern. Stalin was not an antifascist until the fascists came for him.
By and large, western communist parties often refused to oppose Germany openly before barbarossa (notable exceptions : dutch communists) Nevertheless, as you said many communists did engage in resistance before that and, especially after barbarossa, the communists would prove themselves to be the most fervent résistants, and that should never be forgotten That doesn't absolve the ussr and Stalin of their crimes of imperialism and other crimes against humanity and collaboration with the nazi war machine
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By and large, western communist parties often refused to oppose Germany openly before barbarossa (notable exceptions : dutch communists) Nevertheless, as you said many communists did engage in resistance before that and, especially after barbarossa, the communists would prove themselves to be the most fervent résistants, and that should never be forgotten That doesn't absolve the ussr and Stalin of their crimes of imperialism and other crimes against humanity and collaboration with the nazi war machine
MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:47 PM
Italian communists were also opposing Germany for obvious reasons.
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Norwegian ones too, iirc.
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Communists? Often brave and courageous people fighting for their fellow people The Soviet government and their tools both nationally and internationally? A bunch of morons Tldr
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Italian communists were also opposing Germany for obvious reasons.
Yeah they'd been fighting fascism for two decades at this point
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 2:49 PM
Anyway I gotta go, catch you later. Love you 😙
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 2:55 PM
So I've been thinking about this for a while. I get why we're opposed to tankies. I mean I certainly am. But it does seem like the Three Arrows could stand to be updated. I mean, the original Three Arrows represented communism, nazism, and monarchism. Monarchism hasn't been relevant in American politics since the revolution. It's a non-threat. Tankies exist in American politics, but they're extremely small in number, to the point that they end doing most of their politics through the GOP and American fascist movements. And Nazism does exist and is a threat in America, but it's a minority within American fascism. Nazism as an ideology was way to specific to German conditions and ideals to ever gain much more than a niche following within the American fascist movement. So I feel like the Three Arrows should be updated to reflect the authoritarian threats that actually exist in the context of contemporary American politics. (edited)
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I've typically seen the third arrow to be used for right wing authoritarianism in general
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Well, first one? Idk
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So I've been thinking about this for a while. I get why we're opposed to tankies. I mean I certainly am. But it does seem like the Three Arrows could stand to be updated. I mean, the original Three Arrows represented communism, nazism, and monarchism. Monarchism hasn't been relevant in American politics since the revolution. It's a non-threat. Tankies exist in American politics, but they're extremely small in number, to the point that they end doing most of their politics through the GOP and American fascist movements. And Nazism does exist and is a threat in America, but it's a minority within American fascism. Nazism as an ideology was way to specific to German conditions and ideals to ever gain much more than a niche following within the American fascist movement. So I feel like the Three Arrows should be updated to reflect the authoritarian threats that actually exist in the context of contemporary American politics. (edited)
AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 2:56 PM
I feel that the Three Arrows represent Anti-Fascism and Anti-Authoritarian Communism, with the third being up for interpretation (monarchy, theocracy, oligarchy, etc). I expand it beyond just Nazism and Communism.
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Then anti nazi, then anti "authoritarian communism"
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Also, and I say that as a European, keeping the three arrows "open in meaning" helps with internationalising the movement
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Talking of which I really need to revive the European iron front subreddit but it's hard to get to the point of "natural posting" since it's not exactly easy to advertise lol, and also reddit is becoming more and more shit
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Lemmy seems nice but so little activity
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I really wished decentralized websites got more traction, such as mastodon But alas twitter and reddit will stay the most popular, and you just have to see how people are jumping to threads or blueskye instead to see how fucked up we are
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So I've been thinking about this for a while. I get why we're opposed to tankies. I mean I certainly am. But it does seem like the Three Arrows could stand to be updated. I mean, the original Three Arrows represented communism, nazism, and monarchism. Monarchism hasn't been relevant in American politics since the revolution. It's a non-threat. Tankies exist in American politics, but they're extremely small in number, to the point that they end doing most of their politics through the GOP and American fascist movements. And Nazism does exist and is a threat in America, but it's a minority within American fascism. Nazism as an ideology was way to specific to German conditions and ideals to ever gain much more than a niche following within the American fascist movement. So I feel like the Three Arrows should be updated to reflect the authoritarian threats that actually exist in the context of contemporary American politics. (edited)
AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 3:01 PM
I've heard the Iron Front be described as "open tent," taking in anyone who wants to fight fascism and authoritarian communism. Updating the Three Arrows to be more open to interpretation but firm in what it stands for is a good way of doing that. If a center-right person isn't happy with the rise of fascism in the US, they should be able to join without being pushed out. While really all of us may disagree with their political leanings, what matters is their fight against fascism. The same thing goes with center-left people who do not align themselves with some of the more mainstream names and ideologies.
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 3:01 PM
I definitely think one of the arrows should be anti-imperialism, since imperialism is at the core of so much of the authoritarian activity of the American state.
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I definitely think one of the arrows should be anti-imperialism, since imperialism is at the core of so much of the authoritarian activity of the American state.
AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 3:02 PM
Imperialism is at the core of nearly every state. I agree that it should be represented with an arrow in some pieces.
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I've been trying to throw around some leaflets here for the belgian iron front and I used them for anti Rex (pro nazi ww2 walloon party) anti vnv (pro nazi ww2 flemmish party) anti vlaams belang (modern flemmish fascist party)
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 3:03 PM
Also one could be Prosperity Gospel. The fusion of neoliberalism and fundamentalist Christianity that's at the core of so much of America's hyperconservstive thought.
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I am tempted to go on an "offensive" against the new far right walloon party
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But on the other hand I don't want to give them too much publicity, they're still fringe so far
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Always funny when the local far right nationalist anti eu party is actually heavily funded by the French, flemmish, Dutch and German far right
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I've been trying to throw around some leaflets here for the belgian iron front and I used them for anti Rex (pro nazi ww2 walloon party) anti vnv (pro nazi ww2 flemmish party) anti vlaams belang (modern flemmish fascist party)
DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 3:11 PM
Yeah it's a little bit harder with the US because of the two party system. Almost all of the authoritarian threats that are relevant are tied to a single political party. Like, if you wanted to do it on a party basis, all three arrows would just represent the GOP.
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Yeah it's a little bit harder with the US because of the two party system. Almost all of the authoritarian threats that are relevant are tied to a single political party. Like, if you wanted to do it on a party basis, all three arrows would just represent the GOP.
yeah, and its terrifying because the GOP is impossible to dislodge and alternance ensures they will eventually get the power they want
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so you can only hope they eventually lose enough elections that they change directions but i dont see it happening any time soon, its just the culmination of what was started under reagan (well mostly nixon but reagan is really the one that made it a thing)
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like, i posted this in memes a few days ago but i think its relevant here lol
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so you can only hope they eventually lose enough elections that they change directions but i dont see it happening any time soon, its just the culmination of what was started under reagan (well mostly nixon but reagan is really the one that made it a thing)
DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 3:29 PM
The good news in that regard is that young people fucking hate them. Something like 65% of Millennials and 74% of GenZ vote Democrat. And unlike previous generations, they're both moving further left over time, not further right. So unless something major happens to change the trajectory of things, the GOP's days are numbered. And I think they know that, and that that's part of what's been driving their wild-ass antics recently. Particularly in regards to voting rights and education. They're hoping to suppress the vote of Millennials and Zoomers long enough for them to indoctrinate Gen Alpha and have a new crop of voters to fall back on.
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hard to not move further left when the right wing actively and continously fucks with future and current gen's lives over the stupidest of shit (edited)
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Stolas_of_the_Stars 8/1/2023 3:35 PM
For me the monarchists get replaced by theocrats.
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The good news in that regard is that young people fucking hate them. Something like 65% of Millennials and 74% of GenZ vote Democrat. And unlike previous generations, they're both moving further left over time, not further right. So unless something major happens to change the trajectory of things, the GOP's days are numbered. And I think they know that, and that that's part of what's been driving their wild-ass antics recently. Particularly in regards to voting rights and education. They're hoping to suppress the vote of Millennials and Zoomers long enough for them to indoctrinate Gen Alpha and have a new crop of voters to fall back on.
tbf the progression of nazi rethoric in zoomer and gen alpha demographics worries me
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eh, its more accurate Monarchist replaced theocrats
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see the entirity of the English civil war for that
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Stolas_of_the_Stars 8/1/2023 3:36 PM
Sorta, however in the US we have theocratic authoritarians.
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tbf the progression of nazi rethoric in zoomer and gen alpha demographics worries me
true...but that's why I'm not against Paddlin' a little shit.
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normalize scaring assholes into behaving
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Sorta, however in the US we have theocratic authoritarians.
true, but tbh that's what happens if you don't let Sherman finish his job. Slave holders festered in the churches in the south and the bias is still there
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there's a reason I keep making heresey jokes
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because it is
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Stolas_of_the_Stars 8/1/2023 3:39 PM
Oh for sure. I had a student in my class last year that quote "wanted the US to have a christian version of the iranian revolution."
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perchance where is this student
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also the Iranian revolution was supported by outside forces partially
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hard to not move further left when the right wing actively and continously fucks with future and current gen's lives over the stupidest of shit (edited)
DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 3:40 PM
Yeah, and so far the GOP's scattershot efforts have only had middling level of success. Mostly in Texas and Florida. I think 2024 is their last shot at being able to survive as is. Failing that, the GOP will likely either become increasingly irrelevant in the face of Democrat dominance, or they'll have to return to previous era of Rockefeller Republicans and Progressive Republicans, which will provide room for the Democrats to move further left.
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realistically if the US did do some dumb shit like that, see more emphasis on CA, Washington, Oregon and other blue states thinking of outright seperation
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well
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not seperation
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more so "restoration"
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you want a civil war
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you gonna get a civil war
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tbf the progression of nazi rethoric in zoomer and gen alpha demographics worries me
DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 3:43 PM
That does exist, largely because of how shit the education system is and how good the right's been at online propagandizing. But a very consistent pattern is that GenZ kids that are right-wing as kids do a complete 180 pretty much the instant they go off to college and start actually learning and touching grass.
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and lets be honest, I'm pretty sure Ukraine's war gave some much needed arms to the rest of europe
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That does exist, largely because of how shit the education system is and how good the right's been at online propagandizing. But a very consistent pattern is that GenZ kids that are right-wing as kids do a complete 180 pretty much the instant they go off to college and start actually learning and touching grass.
or life kicks them in the balls
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both are valid tactics
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Yeah, and so far the GOP's scattershot efforts have only had middling level of success. Mostly in Texas and Florida. I think 2024 is their last shot at being able to survive as is. Failing that, the GOP will likely either become increasingly irrelevant in the face of Democrat dominance, or they'll have to return to previous era of Rockefeller Republicans and Progressive Republicans, which will provide room for the Democrats to move further left.
if they lose 2024 that would be 16 years of democrat dominance interrupted by 4 years of... trump lol
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metaphorically
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oof
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and if people associate trump with gop to the point of German cultural ptsd style...
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honestly the extreme polarization of the USA leads me to think a civil war is not impossible at all
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or at least an actual coup attempt
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I call the growing anti-gop backlash the Californian mexican effect, see Pete Wilson and his fuckery for why CA is so fucking blue
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2024 is gonna be a fucking terrifying election
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oh it is
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but that also depends where you live too
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im not american but my girlfriend (MtF...) is from indiana
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suffice to say she want to fucking get out
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yeah don't blame here
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I got a non-political friend from fandom shit who wants to gtfo of there too and she's NOT trans
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if they lose 2024 that would be 16 years of democrat dominance interrupted by 4 years of... trump lol
DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 3:46 PM
Honestly, if they lose 2024, I could see the Dems maintaining their dominance until 2040 or even 2044. If they win 2024 then it's a crapshoot.
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weirdly enough her evangelical parents have become pretty progressive over time and dont want anything to do with the GOP anymore
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2024 is gonna be a fucking terrifying election
Stolas_of_the_Stars 8/1/2023 3:47 PM
TBH i might just sabbadical in Europe or something
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Honestly, if they lose 2024, I could see the Dems maintaining their dominance until 2040 or even 2044. If they win 2024 then it's a crapshoot.
too hard to predict that far ahead imo
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we are living in extremely unpredictable times
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one thing that i am absolutely worried about is the, in my opinon almost unavoidable, societal collapse we are headed towards
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Stolas_of_the_Stars 8/1/2023 3:48 PM
No more global warming. We now in the global boiling phase that is gonna displace A LOT of people.
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luckily for me im a biologist and somewhat working on ways to alleviate food shortages and into bioplastic production
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one thing that i am absolutely worried about is the, in my opinon almost unavoidable, societal collapse we are headed towards
DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 3:48 PM
Because of climate change induced migrant waves and wars over drinkable water and arable land?
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No more global warming. We now in the global boiling phase that is gonna displace A LOT of people.
ive been rereading about the bronze age collapse over the past week
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to think entire civilisations collapsed in the span of 50 years and then took centuries to get back on their feet...
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yeah
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Stolas_of_the_Stars 8/1/2023 3:50 PM
Yea. Reading a book on the social collapse from an archeaological perspective. Very fascinating.
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things i'd like to do with my life, once i'm properly settled, with groups of other people: make a database of human knowledge (sci hub and maybe even wikipedia), work into sustainable microbial food sources (working on purple non sulf bacteria, but also spirulina is great), stuff like that
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Stolas_of_the_Stars 8/1/2023 3:50 PM
A lot of known social collapses had climate as the big instigator. (edited)
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A lot of known social collapses had climate as the big instigator. (edited)
yep exactly
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arghhhh
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elon musk renamed tweetdeck into "Xpro"
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fucking forgot the remove the comma LOL
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Stolas_of_the_Stars 8/1/2023 3:54 PM
Jesus. I just can't understand how people still stan for that guy.
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weirdly enough her evangelical parents have become pretty progressive over time and dont want anything to do with the GOP anymore
Joke answer: Jesus came to them in a dream in his end of days form chewing their ass out for being hellbound pieces of shit. Serious answer: they read the actual proper translation of the Bible and some proper history books and went:
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2024 is gonna be a fucking terrifying election
AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 4:05 PM
Many extremist/accelerationist conservatives are discussing fighting if they do not win in 2024. Trump said they "wouldn't let it happen" again. Not as in, "We let them win the next election," but more of a "We will try to kill anyone who doesn't let us destroy the country" way. The 2024 election cycle is the one that is going to decide the fate of the United States. Far-right extremism has gone up unbelievable amounts over the past two decades or so, with a sharp rise in the past five years. For America to survive beyond the 2020s, the left must win in 2024; regardless of who wins the election, there will be terrorist attacks, just like we have seen here against the power grid and against LGBTQ+ centers.
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Many extremist/accelerationist conservatives are discussing fighting if they do not win in 2024. Trump said they "wouldn't let it happen" again. Not as in, "We let them win the next election," but more of a "We will try to kill anyone who doesn't let us destroy the country" way. The 2024 election cycle is the one that is going to decide the fate of the United States. Far-right extremism has gone up unbelievable amounts over the past two decades or so, with a sharp rise in the past five years. For America to survive beyond the 2020s, the left must win in 2024; regardless of who wins the election, there will be terrorist attacks, just like we have seen here against the power grid and against LGBTQ+ centers.
i have the exact same opinion on the matter
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i think terrorist attacks before, during and after the elections are likely too
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i could very much see terrorist attacks in places like phoenix, detroit or atlanta to prevent a democratic victory by scaring voters away
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i really hope the biden administration is seriously considering the threat situation and is prepared to act swiftly to prevent this
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but terrorism isnt always preventable
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AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 4:12 PM
The Biden admin must take the threat of right-wing terrorism seriously. Voter intimidation and attacks in left-leaning cities and places where minorities vote are going to happen. Biden and the democrats will be seen as weak if nothing is done about it.
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regardless of being seen weak or not
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if terrorism happens in the weeks before the elections a lot of people will be afraid to vote
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and with how insanely close 2020 was, i wouldnt risk any more closeness
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No more global warming. We now in the global boiling phase that is gonna displace A LOT of people.
MisterStompy 8/1/2023 4:49 PM
I'm of the opinion that we're gonna fix the climate in like five or six years, but those five or six years are gonna suuuuuuuuuuuck https://youtu.be/TBYDgJ9Wf0E
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I'm of the opinion that we're gonna fix the climate in like five or six years, but those five or six years are gonna suuuuuuuuuuuck https://youtu.be/TBYDgJ9Wf0E
even if we stopped climate change RIGHT NOW, no more CO2 or anything, the planet is already 1.5C hotter than it was before the industrial revolution
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I'm suprised it took this long
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I'm of the opinion that we're gonna fix the climate in like five or six years, but those five or six years are gonna suuuuuuuuuuuck https://youtu.be/TBYDgJ9Wf0E
DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 4:59 PM
Fixing climate change at this juncture would require a complete overhaul of our entire economic productive system. An overhaul that would effectively kneecap the ability of capitalists to profit. So unless we can somehow get capitalists to magically agree to diminishing their profit margins, it'll require at least a partial overthrow of the capitalist system.
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Fixing climate change at this juncture would require a complete overhaul of our entire economic productive system. An overhaul that would effectively kneecap the ability of capitalists to profit. So unless we can somehow get capitalists to magically agree to diminishing their profit margins, it'll require at least a partial overthrow of the capitalist system.
MisterStompy 8/1/2023 5:01 PM
Alternative energy is becoming more and more profitable and fossil fuels are less profitable, and that something like 90% of investment into clean energy is from the private industry.
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Fixing climate change at this juncture would require a complete overhaul of our entire economic productive system. An overhaul that would effectively kneecap the ability of capitalists to profit. So unless we can somehow get capitalists to magically agree to diminishing their profit margins, it'll require at least a partial overthrow of the capitalist system.
Frankly, as optimistic that Stompy is being, if I had to put my 2 cents, we could probably get equilibrium, but anything more would require the oil to run out
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Frankly, as optimistic that Stompy is being, if I had to put my 2 cents, we could probably get equilibrium, but anything more would require the oil to run out
MisterStompy 8/1/2023 5:02 PM
I'm not saying everything is gonna be okay because it isn't, we're going to have a really, REALLY bad late 2020's
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There will be climate wars
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We won't get like snowpiercer or something, though
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even if we stopped climate change RIGHT NOW, no more CO2 or anything, the planet is already 1.5C hotter than it was before the industrial revolution
DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 5:02 PM
Even if we reduced our net CO2 emissions to zero, the legacy load of carbon would still cause warming. We literally need to undo the damage we've done by reaching a drawdown state (negative net CO2) in order to avoid climate catastrophe in the long run.
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We won't get like snowpiercer or something, though
I sure hope not. Snowpiercer is even worse!
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Even if we reduced our net CO2 emissions to zero, the legacy load of carbon would still cause warming. We literally need to undo the damage we've done by reaching a drawdown state (negative net CO2) in order to avoid climate catastrophe in the long run.
ice sheets runaway effects yes
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Even if we reduced our net CO2 emissions to zero, the legacy load of carbon would still cause warming. We literally need to undo the damage we've done by reaching a drawdown state (negative net CO2) in order to avoid climate catastrophe in the long run.
MisterStompy 8/1/2023 5:04 PM
What if we could pull carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere in order to stop climate change? Learn how researchers are developing ways to do this.
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ice sheet melting -> less reflection of sunlight -> more warming -> ice sheet melting
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 5:04 PM
What we need to do is get billionaires to put more and more money into shit like nuclear power and carbon capture instead of solar and wind
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also geoengineers are often idiots
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we can, but thats being insanely over optimistic
MisterStompy 8/1/2023 5:04 PM
We need to develop the technology further
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besides im not comfortable with the implication that we can fuck up the environment, but its fine because we'll fix it later
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if i break your legs but then magically heal you i doubt you would like it
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 5:06 PM
We just need to use all of the oil at once so that we're forced to shift to nuclear
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Like in a week, all of the oil
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avoid the sarcasm it makes it hard to have a meaningful discussion
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Alternative energy is becoming more and more profitable and fossil fuels are less profitable, and that something like 90% of investment into clean energy is from the private industry.
DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 5:06 PM
That's great. And how about emissions from lithium mining? Or rare earth mineral mining? Or any of the other myriad of unintended consequences of these profitable alternatives? Also, how is that gonna stop desertification from mass monocropping? Or ocean acidification? Or the inhibition of biosequestration from deforestation? The problems are lot more vast and complex than what simply switching electric vehicles and using solar power can account for. And most of these problems simply don't have profitable solutions.
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That's great. And how about emissions from lithium mining? Or rare earth mineral mining? Or any of the other myriad of unintended consequences of these profitable alternatives? Also, how is that gonna stop desertification from mass monocropping? Or ocean acidification? Or the inhibition of biosequestration from deforestation? The problems are lot more vast and complex than what simply switching electric vehicles and using solar power can account for. And most of these problems simply don't have profitable solutions.
MisterStompy 8/1/2023 5:07 PM
N U C L E A R
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We need to stop fucking with solar power
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nuclear is super expensive, uranium isnt infinite, and it takes a decade to build a reactor
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 5:07 PM
Also iirc there's some development into an alternative for lithium batteries, but it's in its early stages
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solar is cheap and could be done with much fewer environmental footprint than other solutions when combined with hydro and nuclear and connected powergrids
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 5:07 PM
Yes we can. Humans did it for thousands of years. It regenerative agriculture and permaculture. We just don't do it much anymore because it's not profitable.
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 5:08 PM
It becomes profitible when you develop the technology more
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Yes we can. Humans did it for thousands of years. It regenerative agriculture and permaculture. We just don't do it much anymore because it's not profitable.
something i'm currently working on (as in scientific work) is the usage of bacterias too
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they are insanely better than plant and much more nutriant rich
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something i'm currently working on (as in scientific work) is the usage of bacterias too
MisterStompy 8/1/2023 5:09 PM
wait like training a germ to eat carbon?
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not releasing that shit in the environment though, thats what geoenginners constantly try to do - and keep failing
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wait like training a germ to eat carbon?
cyanboacterias, literally the oldest oxygenic photosynthetic organisms on earth
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its somewhat for unrelated reasons, but when they appeared the earth cooled down so much it literally went ice ball for millions of years lol
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 5:09 PM
One could make a robot that does that but I don't think that's a good idea
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nanomachines just don't seem like a good idea in general tbh
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(released the oxygen, which broke methane into CO2, which is a less potent greenhouse gas, so earth cooled down massively)
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combined with the fact that oxygen was toxic for most lifeforms on earth, cyanobacterias almost ended life on this planet single handedly
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they're also the reasons why we have iron deposits
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 5:10 PM
Nuclear is a valid option, but declaring any singular energy source as "the solution" is devoid of basic civic engineering principles. And this sort of carbon tunnel-vision and liberal environmentalist thinking based on fanciful notions over grounded scientific principles is a big part of the problem. We need a heavily varied energy diet in order for it to be sustainable and logistically viable.
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a big advantage of solar, on top of being cheap, is that you can install it everywhere basically
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 5:11 PM
Solar should be for individual and consumer, NOT for industrial though
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dont have to dedicate land to it, unless you're an idiot who makes solar farms which alas often is the norm
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MisterStompy
Solar should be for individual and consumer, NOT for industrial though
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industrial
MisterStompy 8/1/2023 5:12 PM
I mean like solar farms
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you think industries have their own little dedicated power plants
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its part of the powergrid
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 5:12 PM
For lack of a better term
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It becomes profitible when you develop the technology more
DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 5:12 PM
Or we could just not waste our time trying to find solutions that benefit rich people and instead just tell the rich people to go fuck themselves so that we can actually make real progress before shit gets too much worse.
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Or we could just not waste our time trying to find solutions that benefit rich people and instead just tell the rich people to go fuck themselves so that we can actually make real progress before shit gets too much worse.
MisterStompy 8/1/2023 5:12 PM
okay how are you gonna do that
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The invisible hand of the market has given us higher rents, monopolies, social misery, and so on
5:15 PM
After Fukushima the last thing I want is a private nuclear reactor
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dont have to dedicate land to it, unless you're an idiot who makes solar farms which alas often is the norm
DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 5:15 PM
Solar farms are horrible for the soil health of whatever plots of land they're put on. And logistically they just make no fucking sense. Just put them on top of existing infrastructure to supplement the energy that's pulled from elsewhere.
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They'll cut costs and kill us all and themselves, oceangate style
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Which is exactly whats happening with the climate
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Solar farms are horrible for the soil health of whatever plots of land they're put on. And logistically they just make no fucking sense. Just put them on top of existing infrastructure to supplement the energy that's pulled from elsewhere.
Yep exactly
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Combination of nuclear, solar, wind and hydro is perfect
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 5:16 PM
plus solar farms just look fucking lame
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And hoping useable nuclear fusion will one day work out but I have little hopes lmao
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 5:17 PM
We'll get nuclear fusion in like a decade and a half at the soonest, that's not something to lean on (edited)
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That's a very optimistic time frame still
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We need for the process to output like 20 times what we input for energy to be gained in the first place
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We barely broke the 1x mark like a few years ago
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okay how are you gonna do that
DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 5:19 PM
I would prefer a bloodless revolution built on bottom-up organisation and grass roots movements to build dual power and counterpower systems and enact civil disobedience as a means of resistance. Failing that, I'm amenable to the use of more violent methods.
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That's a very optimistic time frame still
MisterStompy 8/1/2023 5:19 PM
it's not really optimistic at all, if we just go "it's cool we'll have nuclear fusion in fifteen years" then fifteen years will basically screw us for like 40 years
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Combination of nuclear, solar, wind and hydro is perfect
DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 5:20 PM
Geothermal can be good in certain areas too. Also second-order biofuels that don't compete with food crops for space.
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MisterStompy
it's not really optimistic at all, if we just go "it's cool we'll have nuclear fusion in fifteen years" then fifteen years will basically screw us for like 40 years
That's basically what I said yeah?
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That's basically what I said yeah?
MisterStompy 8/1/2023 5:20 PM
oh okay I was saying it's not me being optimistic
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thought you were implying I was
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DevilTheAutopoet
Geothermal can be good in certain areas too. Also second-order biofuels that don't compete with food crops for space.
The US policy of subsidizing corn farming is the dumbest in existence
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 5:20 PM
Like I'm optimistic but not about fusion
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No I meant 15y is optimistic for fusion to work
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 5:21 PM
which is why relying on it is not a good idea, because even that "short" of a time is far too long
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The US policy of subsidizing corn farming is the dumbest in existence
DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 5:21 PM
Literally one of the worst crops you could possibly use for synthesizing biofuels.
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 5:21 PM
that's like if we dumped literally all the money into it
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I feel like I read somewhere that ants could be used as biofuels but maybe I'm just a dumbass and got confused
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 5:23 PM
I don't know about ants. But the best thing we could use for biofuels is probably algae.
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 5:23 PM
algae would be perfect that shit's everywhere
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florida would be useful for once
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 5:23 PM
Algae can be synthesized produce like 70% of its original mass in biofuel.
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 5:23 PM
BRO WHAT
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THAT'S INSANE
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THAT'S LIKE
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 5:23 PM
And it doesn't compete with food crops for space.
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 5:23 PM
SILVER BULLET SHIT
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Why aren't we using that instead of coal?!
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I mean I know why
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I'm being rhetorical
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 5:25 PM
Also when it's put through the synthesis process, the byproduct is spirulina, which is extremely high in protein and makes for excellent dietary supplement. It also tastes good.
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 5:26 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algae_fuel#Environmental_impact >Microalgae production also includes the ability to use saline waste or waste CO 2 streams as an energy source. This opens a new strategy to produce biofuel in conjunction with waste water treatment, while being able to produce clean water as a byproduct.[117] When used in a microalgal bioreactor, harvested microalgae will capture significant quantities of organic compounds as well as heavy metal contaminants absorbed from wastewater streams that would otherwise be directly discharged into surface and ground-water.[108] Moreover, this process also allows the recovery of phosphorus from waste, which is an essential but scarce element in nature – the reserves of which are estimated to have depleted in the last 50 years.[118] Another possibility is the use of algae production systems to clean up non-point source pollution, in a system known as an algal turf scrubber (ATS). This has been demonstrated to reduce nitrogen and phosphorus levels in rivers and other large bodies of water affected by eutrophication, and systems are being built that will be capable of processing up to 110 million liters of water per day. ATS can also be used for treating point source pollution, such as the waste water mentioned above, or in treating livestock effluent.[91][119][120]
Algae fuel, algal biofuel, or algal oil is an alternative to liquid fossil fuels that uses algae as its source of energy-rich oils. Also, algae fuels are an alternative to commonly known biofuel sources, such as corn and sugarcane. When made from seaweed (macroalgae) it can be known as seaweed fuel or seaweed oil. In December 2022, ExxonMobil, t...
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DUDE THIS IS SCI FI SHIT
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 5:27 PM
And when I say it's high in protein, I mean short of literal pure protein powder spirulina's got more protein by volume than basically anything else humans consume.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algae_fuel#Environmental_impact >Microalgae production also includes the ability to use saline waste or waste CO 2 streams as an energy source. This opens a new strategy to produce biofuel in conjunction with waste water treatment, while being able to produce clean water as a byproduct.[117] When used in a microalgal bioreactor, harvested microalgae will capture significant quantities of organic compounds as well as heavy metal contaminants absorbed from wastewater streams that would otherwise be directly discharged into surface and ground-water.[108] Moreover, this process also allows the recovery of phosphorus from waste, which is an essential but scarce element in nature – the reserves of which are estimated to have depleted in the last 50 years.[118] Another possibility is the use of algae production systems to clean up non-point source pollution, in a system known as an algal turf scrubber (ATS). This has been demonstrated to reduce nitrogen and phosphorus levels in rivers and other large bodies of water affected by eutrophication, and systems are being built that will be capable of processing up to 110 million liters of water per day. ATS can also be used for treating point source pollution, such as the waste water mentioned above, or in treating livestock effluent.[91][119][120]
DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 5:28 PM
You can use dead algae as an excellent biofertilizer for other crops, since it's extremely high in nitrogen.
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 5:29 PM
How expensive is it to synthesize? I'm genuinely considering starting a consumer algefuel business, like just sell this shit to people with household generators
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And when I say it's high in protein, I mean short of literal pure protein powder spirulina's got more protein by volume than basically anything else humans consume.
Yeah spirulina is insane
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Only flaw, no b12 vitamin
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But guess what this is literally my job
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I work on a bacteria, rhodospirillum rubrum (it has a wikipedia page) that can feed off literal shit, produces green hydrogen, make bioplastics, or can be used as food where it's just as rich as spirulina but also has the b12 vitamin in copious amounts
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How expensive is it to synthesize? I'm genuinely considering starting a consumer algefuel business, like just sell this shit to people with household generators
DevilTheAutopoet 8/1/2023 5:34 PM
So the problem isn't so much the synthesis as the growth. Growing it requires fucktons of water, energy, and, if you're monocropping, fertilizer. And because the fuel it produces burns quicker than other biofuels, you'd have to produce a fuckton of it to make it worth buying. So it's prohibitively expensive. But according to the USDA's research, it's pretty much a vital component of any currently viable path towards moving beyond fossil fuels.
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My university is involved in a big project to make food based off that
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And make plastics cheaper than oil
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So the problem isn't so much the synthesis as the growth. Growing it requires fucktons of water, energy, and, if you're monocropping, fertilizer. And because the fuel it produces burns quicker than other biofuels, you'd have to produce a fuckton of it to make it worth buying. So it's prohibitively expensive. But according to the USDA's research, it's pretty much a vital component of any currently viable path towards moving beyond fossil fuels.
MisterStompy 8/1/2023 5:34 PM
ah, okay
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And for working with them daily I can tell you these little shits grow fast
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And make plastics cheaper than oil
MisterStompy 8/1/2023 5:35 PM
wait have we mastered oil free plastic yet?
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MisterStompy
wait have we mastered oil free plastic yet?
So to make a bacteria you need carbon, nitrogen, water and minor amounts of metals
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Carbon and nitrogen is always the problem for the cost
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Historically we gave them fucking sugar
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Which is expensive as hell
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But turns out these can use volatile fatty acids aka literal shit
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And we are working on using molasses which are often wastes
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So cheap as hell
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Spirulina and rubrum have been considered for the melissa project
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 5:36 PM
didn't a bunch of people drown in molasses like back in the 20's
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not really related but I got reminded of that
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European space agency project to make a loop so that astronauts are independant on food
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MisterStompy
not really related but I got reminded of that
Yes
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 5:37 PM
god that would blow
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Rubrum got removed because it didn't fulfill its role well (instead of producing CO2 sometimes it fixes it... great for us but not adapted to the loop)
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In the West spirulina is a niche healthfood product, but it can be used to fight malnutrition and empower the farmers in developing countries
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I am 100% gonna have a spirulina tank in my backyard
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(Fun fact you can even feed them with your own piss lol, provided you take the necessary precautions)
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A federal grand jury has voted to charge the former president for his role in the effort to overturn the 2020 presidential election
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HEY YO
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MisterStompy
Why aren't we using that instead of coal?!
assuming coal isn't actively trying to fuck over gas corps who do want to use this, I heard storing it is a big issue. don't want the genetically engineered algae in the wild which...begrudgingly fair.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/1/2023 6:26 PM
Isn't coal gonna be fucking gone in the next 20 years
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we need to do some space mining tho
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eeeh you can make coal in a lab tbf
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we're more likely to shift lab grown coal
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/1/2023 6:29 PM
I preffer if we ditch coal
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nuclear ftw
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eh, I think all approach to be fair (edited)
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nuke, wind and solar
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nuke should carry us til we get fully long term functional wind and solar
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nuclear may give us a ton of power, but if someone is sloppy at their job, thousands at minimum could be at risk
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even with safety improvements
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incidements are out
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Didn't have africa starting wwiii on my card...although I do feel like its not really a world war. Not saying this isn't important, but this seems more like the coup holders to step down or get all of west africa on your ass With aid from France and possibly the US
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now if it somehow spills outside of Africa? Yeah, yeah it is
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as a (admittedly iffy) rule, World wars tend to require fighting on more then one continent
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 10:23 PM
URAAAAANIUM FEVER HAS DONE AND GOT ME DOWN URAAAAANIUM FEVER IS SPREADIN ALL AROUND With a geiger counter in my hand-
  • I'm goin out to stake me some government land URANIUM FEVER HAS DONE AND GOT ME DOOOOOOWN
https://vxtwitter.com/NuclearHazelnut/status/1686170832345972740
Plant Vogtle Unit 3 has officially reached commercial operation!!🇺🇸 Becoming the first newly constructed nuclear reactor deployed in the United States in over 30 years & one that can power ~500,000 homes and businesses. 💖 3304
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/1/2023 10:31 PM
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MisterStompy
URAAAAANIUM FEVER HAS DONE AND GOT ME DOWN URAAAAANIUM FEVER IS SPREADIN ALL AROUND With a geiger counter in my hand-
  • I'm goin out to stake me some government land URANIUM FEVER HAS DONE AND GOT ME DOOOOOOWN
https://vxtwitter.com/NuclearHazelnut/status/1686170832345972740
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YYYYYYYOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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BubsyFanboy 8/2/2023 8:04 AM
One of them helped dismantle democracy, broke the constitution and encouraged harassment against minorities in the country The other is Donald Trump
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You do realize hwo little that narrows it down right.
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BubsyFanboy 8/2/2023 8:56 AM
Right
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And Duda also refused to acknowledge Biden as the president-elect until the inauguration, as I recall
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damn i said the other day i was interested in looking how much data storage is human knowledged so i looked at some numbers here and there
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turns out english wikipedia, text only uncompressed, is only 22 GB!
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Obviously metadata is in the dozens of TB (such as edit history, file description, ...) and media, but i dont find values for wikimedia itself
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As for Sci Hub, they host about 100 TB of data, for 89 million documents, 80% of which are research papers
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I was expecting much more than that, it's a fairly pleasant surprise imo
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Stolas_of_the_Stars 8/2/2023 9:57 AM
All those works lost when the CHUDs burned down the library of Alexandria. 😦
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ngl the amount of human knowledge that is forever lost to us because a bunch of idiots decided to burn down libraries is terrible
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Stolas_of_the_Stars 8/2/2023 9:58 AM
A shameful thing we can be as a species. 😦
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Check the mods of r/afghanistan lol
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AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
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also this is the worrying shit I have been talking about the other day, ALTHOUGH it should be noted lib + con < 50%
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so hell know what the other 55% said
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and should be contrasted with this too
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BubsyFanboy 8/2/2023 10:54 AM
The Russian president has signed a law banning all trans healthcare, and removes adoption, fostering and marriage rights from trans people.
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/2/2023 11:20 AM
Probably a lot of leftists/progressives identifying as neither.
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Pollsters and political scientists really need to stop tracking it as a "conservative/liberal" dichotomy. It's just not useful anymore.
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Probably a lot of leftists/progressives identifying as neither.
yep exactly my thought
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yep exactly my thought
DevilTheAutopoet 8/2/2023 11:55 AM
I think it'd be better for pollsters and political scientists to start breaking it out into four. "Progressive/Liberal/Conservative/Nationalist"
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BubsyFanboy 8/2/2023 1:22 PM
Next time you hear any Putin-pleasers:
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BubsyFanboy 8/2/2023 1:30 PM
Rudy Giuliani's former assistant, Noelle Dunphy, who accused the former NY mayor of sexual abuse, harassment and wage theft, has filed a series of transcripts of audio files and ... wow.
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MisterStompy 8/2/2023 2:01 PM
I LOVE THE FREE MARKET I LOVE BEING ABLE TO DESTROY INTOLERANT PEOPLE'S LIVES VIA ECONOMIC MEANS
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 8/2/2023 2:01 PM
You know what I find funny? That trump flooded his cabinets and with all these yes men and bumble brainless thugs, but managed to pick exactly one extremely good choice for a Sec of defense
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You know what I find funny? That trump flooded his cabinets and with all these yes men and bumble brainless thugs, but managed to pick exactly one extremely good choice for a Sec of defense
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 8/2/2023 2:02 PM
Mattis
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I LOVE THE FREE MARKET I LOVE BEING ABLE TO DESTROY INTOLERANT PEOPLE'S LIVES VIA ECONOMIC MEANS
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 8/2/2023 2:03 PM
Yeah, she tried that in traverse, which is a pretty queer friendly town, so I’m not surprised she’s being bullied for it
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MisterStompy 8/2/2023 2:03 PM
average pink capitalism w
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average pink capitalism w
yeah, "pink capitalism" works when you're in a progressive city
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if she'd been in a conservative town she'd have been hailed as a hero
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this is no PC W lmao
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if she'd been in a conservative town she'd have been hailed as a hero
MisterStompy 8/2/2023 2:15 PM
It's her suppliers, doesn't matter if she has customers if she has no product to use
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She could be in Alabama or something and she'd still be screwed
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same thing really
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pink capitalism only works if you're ok to wait decades for people to change their mentality, in the meantime pink capitalism isn't gonna bring back abortion to alabama or protect their queer people
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its not a motor of change, it just enforces the status quo, thats all it does, because the status quo is more profitable than pandering to a minority
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MisterStompy 8/2/2023 2:21 PM
I love Middle East it's my favorite country
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yeah, "pink capitalism" works when you're in a progressive city
to be fair, depending how far you could go, you could technically buy up a bunch of property in conservative towns (because they're cheapish) and intentionally jack up prices on conservative businesses to drive them out of town. (edited)
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its something I've pitched as a psychological and basically reverse gerrymandering tactic
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try to vote in your illegit red blocks now with no money, you stupid bigots
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listen sometimes you gotta be the asshole landlord tbh
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pink capitalism has its issues, but we can and should weaponize it
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source: see Temecula in CA. MAGA schoolboard tried to pash anti-trans shit, and is getting literally and financially beating the fuck out of rn because funding as well as a army of livid parents decided to make said schoolboard's life hell
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to be fair, depending how far you could go, you could technically buy up a bunch of property in conservative towns (because they're cheapish) and intentionally jack up prices on conservative businesses to drive them out of town. (edited)
sure that would work but its not really free market then is it
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im all for weaponising capitalism against itself, no doubt about it
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tbh, a free market is ironically a well regulated one
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or at least
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a very healthy one
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absolutely, my personnal ideal society is market socialism
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free market of goods and services have historically showed themselves to work well
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even the north koreans had to give up and allow farmers to have their own private plots of land which, surprise surprise, turned out having much better yields than the collectivized ones. Same conclusions in the soviet union.
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its also not really a free market is one group actively boobytraps the field to benefit them
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things like infrastructure and critical public services (health, education, water, electricity, roads) cant be free markets because you cant exactly shop where you live
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but if they're gonna play that game, we can and should weaponize capitialism to eat its current self
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if your life or death depends on it you dont go to whichever hospital is the cheapest, you go to the closest one to not fucking die
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or at least, eat fascism
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as for infrastructure, cant really compete when there's a single road, you aint gonna start building 50 roads between DC and philly and let people decide which one to use
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ye
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"privatized" railroads are just government telling X company can run X train, but they still have a monopoly on that train if you live in lancaster and need to work in manchester at 9AM, you aint gonna take the train 6 hours in advance because that one company is cheaper
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my rule is "Is it a absolute necessity for a society to function fully? The public/not up for sale"
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my rule is "Is it a absolute necessity for a society to function fully? The public/not up for sale"
mine is more "does it lead to a natural monopoly? if so, no privatisation"
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tbh fair
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you can go to a different store to buy food, thats doable
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you wont get your kids to a school 50 miles away because its cheaper thats stupid
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you aint gonna have 50 companies putting water lines in the streets to have you compete which one you buy
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etc
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yup
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that said, I also believe in a robust regulation for everything
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and I do mean everything yes even the capitalist goods you buy
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regulations are written in gore and blood and I remind people of this
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its why people who complain about regulations, regardless of who they are, boil my blood
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exactly
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lets relax train regulations! toxic train derails and poison an entire city
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technically happened in CA, but ironically nobody did get poisoned thankfully
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but yeah that was a thing recently
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A railcar full of ammonium nitrate, loaded in Wyoming, was reported missing when the train arrived in eastern Kern County last month.
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of course its Kern
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and well the socialist aspect of it is that i think worker owned companies would work well
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with profit flowing back to every worker, they all have incentive to make the company work
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and if the company goes bust, not a big deal! let it fail
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companies must be allowed to fail
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and thats the job of the government to provide a strong safety net so that unemployment isnt the end of your life
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tbh
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saids, you can't be successful without experience of failure
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MisterStompy 8/2/2023 4:41 PM
ngl I'm really fucking sick of the chapo guys and most of the "dirtbag left" constantly whining because they were wrong about all of their predictions, thinking Trump wasn't gonna be that bad and then thinking Trump would beat Biden, now they're mad Trump got indicted
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Like I wish they'd just come out and admit to their accelerationism already
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They were never progressive, it was always just a ratfuck movement
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"I don't like Putin, I swear"
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tbh I always thought Dirtbag left was a much of idiots anyway
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mind you, I am for being a verbal dick to traitors
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its only fair
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but they seemed to just whine and not take some actual action
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https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/zhanna-samsonova-vegan-influencer-dies-starvation-water/ to move it out of #memes , here is an article about that crazy fruit diet lady
A raw food influencer who died from ‘starvation and exhaustion’ after switching to an extreme diet could ‘barely walk’ in the lead up to her death.
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reminder, she wasnt 70, she was 39
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/2/2023 5:52 PM
Fucking christ
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 8/2/2023 6:23 PM
Jesus, she was thin
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/2/2023 6:26 PM
and i thought i used to be skinny
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MisterStompy 8/2/2023 10:28 PM
"Why is Biden personally killing this guy who slaughtered Jews? What a fucking fascist!" https://vxtwitter.com/PushBidenLeft/status/1686801153084846100
Biden promised to abolish the death penalty, yet his administration is joining Trump in pushing for the execution of Robert Bowers, even in direct opposition to the wishes of the community he targeted.
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man's a fash. He deserves to be bashed
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MisterStompy 8/2/2023 10:32 PM
Authoritarian left: KILL NAZIS! BASH THE FASH! Also authoritarian left: Noooo Biden, noooo please save the Neo Nazi's life Biden, all he did was gun down 11 unarmed Jewish people, he's just a smol bean, just a baby boy. (edited)
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/2/2023 10:36 PM
I'm not big on the death penalty myself. Letting the state execute people is dangerous. Hell even without the state, it shouldn't be on society to carry out vengeance. Restorative and rehabilitative justice is better. That said, if one of the individuals related to one of the victims wanted to personally put this piece of shit out of his misery, I don't think that'd necessarily be the worst thing.
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MisterStompy 8/2/2023 10:37 PM
I don't think they realize that implying Biden is personally driving down to Pittsburgh and mag dumping a Neo Nazi makes Biden look fucking cool as fuck.
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/2/2023 10:39 PM
Also, I ran the numbers on where the value the average worker in the US produces goes: Labor Productivity- $250,000 Operating Costs- $118,300 Administration- $46,707 Corporate Taxes- $21,768 Net Profits- $22,225 Income Taxes- $3,146 Payroll Taxes- $2,542 Wages (after taxes)- $35,312 Translation: Value of the shit you do- $250,000 Cost of the shit you do- $118,300 What gets kicked up the corporate ladder- $46,707 Uncle Sam's cut- $21,768 What the shareholders walk away with- $22,225 Uncle Sam's other cut- $3,146 Old and poor people's cut- $2,542 What you walk away with- $35,312
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MisterStompy 8/2/2023 10:40 PM
"Listen, Jack. We don't take kindly to racism and bigotry in America." opens fire
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I'm not big on the death penalty myself. Letting the state execute people is dangerous. Hell even without the state, it shouldn't be on society to carry out vengeance. Restorative and rehabilitative justice is better. That said, if one of the individuals related to one of the victims wanted to personally put this piece of shit out of his misery, I don't think that'd necessarily be the worst thing.
restorative and rehabilitative justice does not work if the guilty party is consumed by irrationality and hatred. You can not rehabilitate everyone.
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restorative and rehabilitative justice does not work if the guilty party is consumed by irrationality and hatred. You can not rehabilitate everyone.
DevilTheAutopoet 8/3/2023 12:15 AM
The only people that can't be rehabilitated are those with genetic neurological disorders inhibiting the thalamocortical neural pathways responsible for conducting the experience of empathic thought. In layman's terms psychopathy. Not every violent mass murderer has such a disorder and, in fact, most don't. And even if full rehabilitation of the convicted is impossible, that's not the entirety of what restorative justice entails. Furthermore, even if they can't be rehabilitated, that doesn't mean that punishment is an effective alternative. In fact, the data on that is out. It isn't. The only purpose punitive measures actually serve is sating and validating the bloodlust and vengeful impulses of everyone else. (edited)
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BubsyFanboy 8/3/2023 4:02 AM
"LGBT Ideology usurping the scientific title, but really comes from Marx and Engels" "Lech Kaczyński paid the highest price for opposing Russian imperialism" "Many people did and do believe that an assassination took place, but that version appears to be taking an official form." "Ewa Kopacz* did not prove herself in any of the positions, she was far from the truth" *former Prime Minister, currently in opposition Tell me, does this sound like it should be put in a history book for children? Our minister of education & science surely thought so, calling it "truthful" and allowing this to be in the next mandatory literature for the history & modern times subject.
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BubsyFanboy 8/3/2023 4:03 AM
He forgot to mention the InfoWars interview.
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"I like Hitler." and Holocaust denial, making even Alex Jones uncomfortable. (edited)
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Also, the unspoken rule of celebrity drama is the good old "S.T.F.U. and nothing bad will happen to U"
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But Ye continued to be a blithering idiot and tried to flex how Adidas won't drop him after this
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Guess what happened next
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Adidas is now reselling the old stock, but it appears no new deals will be made anytime soon.
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He's got it in the bag.
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MisterStompy
AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/3/2023 2:34 PM
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talking of west africa it looks very likely that ECOWAS is gonna intervene in niger
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or more accurately, nigeria is gonna intervene in niger
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and well, it's not even close
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most of the dark green is really just nigeria (the other 3 ecowas countries who said they would intervene are benin, cote d ivoire and senegal) (edited)
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"LGBT Ideology usurping the scientific title, but really comes from Marx and Engels" "Lech Kaczyński paid the highest price for opposing Russian imperialism" "Many people did and do believe that an assassination took place, but that version appears to be taking an official form." "Ewa Kopacz* did not prove herself in any of the positions, she was far from the truth" *former Prime Minister, currently in opposition Tell me, does this sound like it should be put in a history book for children? Our minister of education & science surely thought so, calling it "truthful" and allowing this to be in the next mandatory literature for the history & modern times subject.
joe hill’s revenge 8/3/2023 7:20 PM
I mean marx and Engels were homophobic and had nothing to do with lgbt ideology
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"LGBT Ideology usurping the scientific title, but really comes from Marx and Engels" "Lech Kaczyński paid the highest price for opposing Russian imperialism" "Many people did and do believe that an assassination took place, but that version appears to be taking an official form." "Ewa Kopacz* did not prove herself in any of the positions, she was far from the truth" *former Prime Minister, currently in opposition Tell me, does this sound like it should be put in a history book for children? Our minister of education & science surely thought so, calling it "truthful" and allowing this to be in the next mandatory literature for the history & modern times subject.
joe hill’s revenge 8/3/2023 7:22 PM
Who is leah kaczńsky and who was assassinated or not?
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:34 PM
Are we gonna go in, too? I've heard something about France getting involved but I doubt it. It would do great for Macron's numbers though, putting down a Russia backed coup.
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I personally think if there's any involvement from the west it should be NATO air support and logistical stuff for relief efforts like food and medicine.
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Although it doesn't look like they need much help tbh, if there's any western involvement it'll just be for bragging rights and to remind the Russians of what we're capable of
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Nigeria 🇳🇬, Senegal 🇸🇳, Côte d'Ivoire 🇨🇮, and Benin 🇧🇯 have all agreed to partake in a possible military intervention by #ECOWAS. Mali 🇲🇱 and Burkina Faso 🇧🇫 have both stated that they will support #Niger 🇳🇪 if there is an intervention.
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Are we gonna go in, too? I've heard something about France getting involved but I doubt it. It would do great for Macron's numbers though, putting down a Russia backed coup.
I have followed the statements and it doesn't look like France and the US will intervene directly
7:39 PM
Ecowas, especially Nigeria, should be more than able to deal with this themselves
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:39 PM
Yeah like I said I wouldn't want troops on the ground, just maybe air strikes or something
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But also they don't really need the help
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Benin in particular made a statement that this is not intended to be a war against the country of Niger, but an intervention to free the democratically elected president from the forces that were supposed to protect him but have taken him hostage (their words not mine)
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So it would likely be a fairly small scale operation to put the president back and then done
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Benin in particular made a statement that this is not intended to be a war against the country of Niger, but an intervention to free the democratically elected president from the forces that were supposed to protect him but have taken him hostage (their words not mine)
MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:41 PM
Operation: Uphold Democracy but African
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Niger s army is small and ill equipped
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Nigeria on the other hand has one of the most powerful in Sub-Saharan Africa
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:41 PM
For those who don't know, Uphold Democracy was the good American intervention in Haiti, not the cringe one.
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But, Burkina Faso and Mali have said if ecowas attack Niger they will consider it a war against themselves too
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And guinea, another former ecowas coupd a few years ago is kinda ambiguous but said they didn't approve an intervention
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But, Burkina Faso and Mali have said if ecowas attack Niger they will consider it a war against themselves too
MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:42 PM
I mean what are they gonna do? ECOWAS is the most powerful coalition in Africa militarily.
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Chad is also a coup country but not ecowas and is used as an intermediary to mediate with Niger
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I mean what are they gonna do? ECOWAS is the most powerful coalition in Africa militarily.
I'm just relaying what has been done so far
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Chad is also a coup country but not ecowas and is used as an intermediary to mediate with Niger
MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:43 PM
Yeah but that's just kind of the way Chad has always been
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Only thing I'm worried about are the islamists taking the opportunity to retake territory in Mali for exemple
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But the juntas themselves are not much of a strong threat
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:44 PM
Honestly I think the west should just remain completely hands off, let this be exposed as the Russian colonialism that it is.
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That would be better for optics
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:45 PM
None of this will ever be crazier than Grenada was, though.
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Tho imo it's just western imperialism vs Russian imperialism, I couldn't care less
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France is a burden on the entire region, has almost complete control over their economies
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What we need more of are botswanas or at worse rwandas
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:46 PM
Yeah France just need to put it's dick away, they've caused wayyyy too many issues trying to retain their empire
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Not whatever the fuck this all is
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:46 PM
Vietnam was their fault
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Ho chi Minh was based Tho lol
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Even the Cia liked him lol
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:47 PM
Slightly related, a lot of African armies look fucking rad, I like how they kept the 80's/90's camo patterns (they probably don't have much choice, but still) https://vxtwitter.com/Megatron_ron/status/1687127273638408192
BREAKING: The Senegalese Government has announced today that it will send Military Forces to Support any kind of Armed Intervention led by ECOWAS against Niger. So far the ECOWAS (controlled by USA and France) Members of Nigeria, Senegal, and Ivory Coast have all stated they… 💖 3730
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Dude was a big fan of France and the US way of governance
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Even the Cia liked him lol
MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:47 PM
Ho Chi Minh liked us, he was hoping we'd juts leave France to their own devices like we should have
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South Vietnam should have just let been crumbled like the shit state it was
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Slightly related, a lot of African armies look fucking rad, I like how they kept the 80's/90's camo patterns (they probably don't have much choice, but still) https://vxtwitter.com/Megatron_ron/status/1687127273638408192
joe hill’s revenge 8/3/2023 7:47 PM
Will this be the next front of the new Cold War?
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:48 PM
We could have had Ho Chi Minh as our little pet communist fucking with the Chinese and the Soviets, it would have been funny
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joe hill’s revenge 8/3/2023 7:48 PM
It seems to pit Russia against France
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And by extension usa vs Russia
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The US even gave diplomatic support to the khmer rouge because grr Vietnam thars how cringe us policy in Asia was
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We could have had Ho Chi Minh as our little pet communist fucking with the Chinese and the Soviets, it would have been funny
Unironically yeah
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Will this be the next front of the new Cold War?
MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:48 PM
Not nearly in the same scale as the 50's-80's, lol. At least not with the current actors. Russia is not going to be the threat they once were, there WILL be confrontations with China in Africa, though.
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Yeah there is a big scramble for Africa with US vs China, mostly in East Africa
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:49 PM
After China comes in to collect their "belt and road" debts with military force, expect tons of American weapons in the hands of African guerillas
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Russia is mostly focusing on the coup belt (guinea to sudan)
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Through wagner
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:50 PM
We might have a military confrontation with Wagner and uhhh yeah, we'll have no issue with that
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Like in Somalia
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And Syria
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:50 PM
Oh yeah no, I meant like if we have one in the future, it will be in Somalia
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We fucked them up in Syria hard
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After China comes in to collect their "belt and road" debts with military force, expect tons of American weapons in the hands of African guerillas
Why do you think China is building those carriers for
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Carriers are an offensive tool
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:51 PM
I almost expect China to try and "liberate" African countries before they go for Taiwan
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At best you can claim they're defensive if you have overseas territories but lmao
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Good reason why us, uk and France were bigggg on having carriers in the jet age
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:51 PM
I hope that US SOF ends up in close quarters firefights with Wagner, it will be so fucking based having Force Recon and Green Berets slaughter Russian Neo Nazis
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It would be like an 80's action movie
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The USAF will bomb them to smithereens before they get the chance
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The USAF will bomb them to smithereens before they get the chance
MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:52 PM
idk, most of the fighting would be Falujah style with house to house clearing
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It wouldn't be like Khasham where there's a big desert between them
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See the above
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:53 PM
I know but a lot of the anti terrorist operations in Somalia are close quarters
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I mean sahel is not much different in terms of landscape to Syria
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:53 PM
Some of it is urban too
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I still don't know why so many people got mad about the Six Days in Fallujah game, btw. Like, that was one of the times where we did a really good job of avoiding civillian casualties, that's why it took so fucking long
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Talking of Syria Iran is building drone bases on the south Bank of the euphrates, likely to strike us troops on the northern bank
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:54 PM
Although Hasan thought that Fallujah was in Afghanistan which is fucking hilarious
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Can't wait for them to be blown up the second they try a funny
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:54 PM
Maybe that's why they got confused, a lot of people were saying "HAHA THE TALIBAN TOOK OVER AGAIN ANYWAY"
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or "YOU JUST ENDED UP LOSING DIDN'T MATTER"
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Like it or not, we won the Iraq war. It was an unjust war and we shouldn't have gone in, but we won.
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Counter insurgency sucks and the US is likely never gonna win any such conflict through military might
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Counter insurgency sucks and the US is likely never gonna win any such conflict through military might
MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:55 PM
I mean we can it just takes like 10 years (Iraq war)
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The more you bomb the people the more will join the cause
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That should have been the main takeaway from vietnam
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The more you bomb the people the more will join the cause
MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:55 PM
Which is why Fallujah went so well, we didn't bomb, it was mostly grunt work.
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I mean we can it just takes like 10 years (Iraq war)
The second they leave isis will be back
7:56 PM
Just like in 2011
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The second they leave isis will be back
MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:56 PM
No? We only have troops around the embassy now.
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And air support but sure
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:56 PM
Yeah that's based in the autonomous Kurdistan region.
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Based kurds
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:57 PM
Iraq proper is all Iraqi army
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If only the us could stop stabbing them in the back for 5 seconds
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:57 PM
Surprisingly we didn't backstab them with the recent Turkey thing, we only backstabbed the PKK but I mean... they aren't exactly the nicest guys so
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Trump fucking let erdogan pretty much exact a genocide for free
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:58 PM
YPJ and PKK aren't the same thing, they were allies of convenience against ISIS
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YPG and PKK are somewhat the same but the YPG did a lot of effort to try not to cause shit with turkey
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Because they knew they had to rely on US support
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:58 PM
No YPG are libertarian socialist and PKK are ML militants who use child soldiers
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Meanwhile turkey was definetly buying ISIS oil while doing nothing when isis controlled half the border
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No YPG are libertarian socialist and PKK are ML militants who use child soldiers
They have the same historical roots
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:59 PM
They took different paths 🤷‍♂️
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Ocalan the founder of pkk has been trying to veer the pkk into what the ypg is now
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Ypg cared more
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 7:59 PM
He's not doing a very good job lol
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Yeah was gonna say
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Legit the only good guys in the region
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 8:00 PM
Erdogan is a fuckhead but he ain't wrong when he calls PKK terrorists
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He's not doing a very good job lol
He's literally in turkey equivalent of alcatraz lol
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Been there for decades
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He's literally in turkey equivalent of alcatraz lol
MisterStompy 8/3/2023 8:00 PM
then just swim away bruh
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YPG ain't perfect there are some dubious stuff about Kurdish favoritism here and there
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But they have reopened the schools and even got some students to graduate university
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A lot of which women
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People are suffering much less than in government controlled areas
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Except when turkey decides to bomb them of course
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 8:02 PM
Plus there's that video of the YPJ sniper chick dodging an ISIS bullet and that little grin she does gives me butterflies 🥴
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The only reason turkey attacked isis in 2016 was to prevent the YPG from linking afrine to kobane
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Legit the only reason
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He's literally in turkey equivalent of alcatraz lol
DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 8/3/2023 8:03 PM
His clone is, yes.
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Made it easier for them to invade afrine and enact cultural genocide in 2018
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Thanks Trump
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 8:03 PM
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Then he let them do it again in North East Syria
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/3/2023 8:03 PM
i don't get it
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Pushing YPG into the hands of Assad and putin because they had no other choice
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i don't get it
MisterStompy 8/3/2023 8:04 PM
Kurdish YPJ sniper who was taking pot shots at ISIS fighters, an ISIS sniper tried to get her but missed by like an inch and she just laughed
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And erdogan was about to invade kobane a few months ago but didn't do it in the end
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 8/3/2023 8:04 PM
These people are the same change my mind
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And erdogan was about to invade kobane a few months ago but didn't do it in the end
MisterStompy 8/3/2023 8:04 PM
Biden probably told him to fuck off
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We don't know what happens but I'm sure dark Brandon had convincing arguments
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 8:05 PM
We'll pull YPG back into our sphere, give it time
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Let's give the straights to Greece like God intended and ditch turkey lol
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These people are the same change my mind
AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/3/2023 8:05 PM
my wife
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 8:05 PM
I was the one guy I know who was certain Russia was going to perform disastrously in Ukraine. I'm smarter than any military geopolitics expert.
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You can trust me on this
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Honestly I was thinking they would achieve their main objectives but would be obliterated by insurgency
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By all means Russia should have destroyed Ukraine regular army
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 8:06 PM
"But MisterStompy, how did you know the Russians would get their asses kicked? What information did you have access to that the Pentagon didn't?" I didn't have any special knowledge, I just fucking hate Putin and the morons that suck him off all the time.
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Material wise they had more than enough
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But thankfully they lacked the brain cells
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But thankfully they lacked the brain cells
And money
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And logistics
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And competent air power
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And decent officers
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 8:07 PM
We should have the CIA pay Russian generals money to buy nukes from other Russian generals and then buy those nukes and just bring them all to the United States
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They could have done an equivalent of desert storm and destroyed Ukraine from the sky for a few weeks
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Before doing the land invasion
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But the VKS are a bunch of fat pussies
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They could have done an equivalent of desert storm and destroyed Ukraine from the sky for a few weeks
MisterStompy 8/3/2023 8:07 PM
They claimed they did that but it was all bullshit
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Remember Russian MOD was saying that all Ukrainian air assets and ground defenses were destroyed in the first 24 hours
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Russia had no reason to not have air superiority
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That would have taken losses yes but they would have won the conventional part of the war thanks to that
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 8:08 PM
They couldn't even gain air superiority when they invaded Georgia and Goergia doesn't have an air force
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Instead they let the Ukrainians blast them from the sky and get bayraktard
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 8:08 PM
The true master stroke was when they dropped like 400 VDV into the black sea
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Absolute fucking geniuses
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And now it's too late Ukraine is filled with western anti air
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The true master stroke was when they dropped like 400 VDV into the black sea
Im pretty sure we still have no evidence of that
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Same thing as the IL76 shot down, it didn't happen
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Im pretty sure we still have no evidence of that
MisterStompy 8/3/2023 8:09 PM
The only evidence I need is how funny it is
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Honestly reality is funny enough for me I don't need made up things
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The moskva was sunk
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Kerch Bridge got bombed... twice
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 8:10 PM
VDV - take off the strip Two hundred men on a one-way trip didn't even do the anti-air supperession now who is the twat who planned this mission? VDV - in the Heaven I'll meet Fallschirmjägers from the battle of Crete This whole mission was a bloody disgrace Airborne drops in contested airspace? Hostomel airport needst to be taken Port of Odessa needs to be awaken who else to send but the VDV? Day, night, drop us where you need VDV - no braver men you'll get Jumped in the Black Sea after sunset tried our best to swim to the shore Didn't quite make it and they're flying out more VDV, any casualties? Javelins cooking off our BMDs under heavy fire at the airport what the hell happened to our air support? (We need air support!) New orders came from top brass up high looks like it's time to say goodbye Loading up the jet, we're packed like sardines still no air superiority, you know what it means! VDV - the missle hit our jet! looked around and most of my squad are dead those who made it are hunted like sport what the fuck happened to our air support? VDV - our lives thrown away! Another drop in the middle of the day posted on the Twitter before we touch down why did we jump into this goddamned town?
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Russia got pushed out of kharkiv oblast and kherson
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It's fucking incredible
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 8:11 PM
I saw a phonk edit of bloated VDV corpses and the condition they were left in by their comrades, fucking hell
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They just left dead bodies under cardboard boxes
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Oh and let's not forget the valiant VDV raids on convenience stores to get food
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Russian spirit is truly dead. If this was 1917 the reds would be in Moscow already with putin head on a pile
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Pike
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One thing I must give to putin is how he has completely lobotomized Russia (edited)
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They just don't care anymore
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Some heroes here and there like BOAK who are based beyond beliefs but they are a rounding error of the population
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 8:13 PM
I mean it's not surprising with shit like this
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Russia has lost more men there than in Afghanistan and Chechnya combined and those wars had huge ramifications and protests from the population and cultural impact
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But nowadays they don't give a fuck anymore
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 8:14 PM
These are alternate history novels about a Russian guy taking over Hitler's mind in the 30's and teaming up with a modern Russian army to conquer England and America
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 8:14 PM
All of them promoted by the government to promote patriotism
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Based Trotsky pickaxings Stalin lol
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 8:19 PM
But Stalin protects himself with a portrait of Lenin (and also Darth Vader helps)
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Best timeline would be a draw with both pickaxing each other
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MisterStompy 8/3/2023 8:21 PM
My personal Isekai is I'm reborn as an American airplane racer/adventurer/stuntman/daredevil who is shot down over occupied france and joins in with an all female group of Maquis to fight the Nazis
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Also I have a pet husky that can talk
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Actually wait, no, my Isekai is just the movie Stargate
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I'm Kurt Russel in Stargate
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MisterStompy
He's not doing a very good job lol
DevilTheAutopoet 8/3/2023 8:34 PM
Kinda hard when he's imprisoned on an island.
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MisterStompy
I mean it's not surprising with shit like this
DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 8/3/2023 8:55 PM
what the fuck
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We might have a military confrontation with Wagner and uhhh yeah, we'll have no issue with that
joe hill’s revenge 8/3/2023 10:29 PM
Wagner is more powerful than putin at this point
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I mean we can it just takes like 10 years (Iraq war)
joe hill’s revenge 8/3/2023 10:32 PM
The moment the USA withdraw isis emerged and drew the USA in.
10:33 PM
America is still occupying Iraq tbh; because trump murdered soulemani on Iraqi soil.
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Who is leah kaczńsky and who was assassinated or not?
BubsyFanboy 8/4/2023 2:21 AM
Former President of Poland, died in 2010 after plane crash near Smoleńsk. Lech's former colleagues in PiS since then started spreading conspiracy theories that Donald Tusk and his party PO (PiS's bitter rival) conspired with Russia to assassinate him.
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Former President of Poland, died in 2010 after plane crash near Smoleńsk. Lech's former colleagues in PiS since then started spreading conspiracy theories that Donald Tusk and his party PO (PiS's bitter rival) conspired with Russia to assassinate him.
joe hill’s revenge 8/4/2023 2:46 AM
Thx
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west africa is on the verge of a regional war
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niger has faced a coup
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the ECOWAS alliance is threatening to send an expeditionary force in 6 days if the military of niger backs down
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while the blue countries (russian aligned dictatorships) say they will counter intervine if ECOWAS intervines
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those actions would mean declaration of war between the two groups
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Jesus fucking christ
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As a European it's often hard to grasp just how fucked up the US police is
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while the blue countries (russian aligned dictatorships) say they will counter intervine if ECOWAS intervines
The Nigerian military alone is orders of magnitude stronger than the juntas
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It's not gonna be even close
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But it's yet another tragedy in this unstable region
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The Nigerian military alone is orders of magnitude stronger than the juntas
the jundas have wagner mercenaries on their side
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the jundas have wagner mercenaries on their side
only in mali, very few of them, and they don't have much of an airforce
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MisterStompy 8/4/2023 1:27 PM
It brings me great displeasure to once again inform you that terfs are the stupidest fucking people on the planet
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It brings me great displeasure to once again inform you that terfs are the stupidest fucking people on the planet
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/4/2023 2:29 PM
I see your terfs and raise you tankies masquerading as anarchists.
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BubsyFanboy 8/4/2023 2:39 PM
Navalny, one of the leading Russian voices against Vladimir Putin before he was locked up, has now been convicted of promoting "extremism."
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only in mali, very few of them, and they don't have much of an airforce
thats good
4:07 PM
lets hope they lose
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Nigeria, while not the best, had also been getting better with corruption. I'm not sure how better, but certainly better than the Malians
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
I see your terfs and raise you tankies masquerading as anarchists.
Lol dude literally fought the soviets
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MisterStompy 8/4/2023 8:59 PM
DUUUUUUUDE
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WT ACTUALLY F?!
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MisterStompy 8/4/2023 9:01 PM
Okay none of this is true but still lmao
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This is what you get for trying to hitch onto Trump
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why
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why is this an account
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Like it's a good game but
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MisterStompy
Okay none of this is true but still lmao
Ok good
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Ok good
MisterStompy 8/4/2023 9:05 PM
Yeah this guy is a notorious Qanon poster
9:06 PM
He also recently posted screenshots from some of the most horrific CP in the world, so yeah he's a pedophile himself
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Of course it's the fucking Qtards
9:06 PM
Who else would it be?!
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/5/2023 1:54 AM
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MisterStompy
DUUUUUUUDE
my bet is that all the comments are blue checkmarks isnt it
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
I see your terfs and raise you tankies masquerading as anarchists.
DevilTheAutopoet 8/5/2023 9:38 AM
"As so called anarchists, we obviously don't oppose all states. Only the united ones."
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we have some sources claiming some wagner instructors made it to niger
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The Nigerian Senate rejects the army’s military intervention in Niger under ECOWAS mandate
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lmao the idiots
3:26 PM
i only glossed over it because i'm pretty sick but someone made a peer reviewed article about the difference in audience targeting between pro china and anti china leftists media outlets (edited)
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and one of the main takeaway is that you have almost no overlap between the two audiences
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"How China Divides the Left: Competing Transnational Left‐Wing Alternative Media on Twitter" my newest peer-reviewed article w/ @OuzhouAdi & @brianhioe is available now at @CogitatioMaC: A🧵on how the left is divided on Chinese politics & foreign policy: https://t.co/rpNxu0c5AV
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twitter thread might be easier to read
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unsurprisingly the h&s crowd is fully biting the pro CCP apple lol
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MisterStompy 8/5/2023 7:49 PM
I know how to solve this problem give Taiwan nuclear missiles (edited)
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This seems prone to backfiring.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/5/2023 10:38 PM
Yeah, wouldn't that just be escalation?
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I'd really rather not see brinkmanship make a return.
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BubsyFanboy 8/6/2023 11:41 AM
Refugees and activists tell the BBC intimidation tactics are tearing apart Uyghur communities overseas.
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Hopefully we won't need another X-X War chanel on the discord
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Republicans in #Ohio are trying squash democracy by requiring ballot initiatives have a 60% majority for passage rather than a simple 50%. And they are trying to do this through a special election on August 8, a time when many people are busy with summer plans. Please help spread the word and get out the vote. Here’s three ways to pitch in. ht...
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wtf
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and the polls are like 50/50
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even fucking kasich opposes the amendment, but all the current Rs are balls deep in
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The Nigerian Senate rejects the army’s military intervention in Niger under ECOWAS mandate
joe hill’s revenge 8/6/2023 4:04 PM
Why? Don’t want death and destruction and young men to kill and die
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MisterStompy 8/6/2023 11:33 PM
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The lack of participation makes me happy.
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MisterStompy 8/6/2023 11:48 PM
Right wing: THE BLACKS IN SOUTH AFRICA ARE GOING TO PUT BOERS INTO CONCENTRATION CAMPS! Left wing: That's never happened before and it will never happen in the future. The British: "Hmm, yes. Quite silly, isn't it?"
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It was white British people who put Boers into concentration camps lmao
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"I'LL TELL YOU WHAT RULE WE APPLIED WHILE FIGHTING THE BOER, SIR. WE APPLIED RULE .303"
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Another group within Germany's security structures has been found to be inclined toward Nazi imagery. Recklinghausen officials are concerned by this incident, the second in recent months.
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AvoidOblivion 8/7/2023 7:04 AM
Shocking. Absolutely shocking, I tell you. Who could have guessed that police would idolize Nazis? Or share cp? /s.
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BubsyFanboy 8/7/2023 10:18 AM
"How do you feel about a system in which the ministry publicly discloses the medical data of people who criticise its actions," the body that represents the country’s doctors commented on the case.
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The conservative education ministry has criticised the "absurd decision" by a state body to finance a study on "transfemininity and sadomasochism".
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YOU COULD HAVE IT ALL MY EMPIRE OF DIRT
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The needle tears a hole, the old familiar sting.
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god it had been too long since i had listened to that, thank you
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its a great one
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MisterStompy 8/8/2023 2:22 PM
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AvoidOblivion 8/8/2023 3:38 PM
My name isn’t Thomas, and this is not a non-partisan poll.
7:32 PM
Portland anarchists can do some really dumb shit sometimes, and smacking Andy upside the head was exactly what he wanted to happen to him, but that doesn't change the fact that Ngo brings all this shit on himself.
7:35 PM
One of these days he's gonna get killed, but it won't be by "Antifa", it'll be by one of the Proud Boys or Nazi skinheads he's always hanging out with.
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honestly I'm surprised nobody sown misinfo showing Ngo as a antifa spy like they do with Rowling (edited)
7:55 PM
he's asian, has the gay flag on his twitter
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you could sow some discord in doing so
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On the ballot is Issue 1, a proposal to raise the threshold for passing future changes to the state's constitution from a simple majority to 60%.
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OHIO VOTES NO
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TELLS MAGA GOP TO GO FUCK THEMSELVES
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Not all of the votes have been counted
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Don't get your hopes up just yet
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MisterStompy 8/8/2023 8:56 PM
There are no "red states", there are gerrymandered states and states where too many people don't vote.
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Not all of the votes have been counted
true, but this is like the newsom recall, so many people got pissed off that in a matter of minutes the vote was called for. There was that many nos
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There are no "red states", there are gerrymandered states and states where too many people don't vote.
this also shows that people in so called red or rural states might be increasingly frustrated with the gop, which doesn't bode well in the election
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MisterStompy 8/8/2023 9:00 PM
As goes Ohio, so goes the nation.
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YUP
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Still going with 40% counted
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that's still strongly No
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Ok, now I'm getting a little more confident
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I TOLD YOU
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ITS A RECALL NEWSOM REACTION
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OHIO DEMS CAME IN COOKIN'
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Yea, but there's a lot of room for things to change at 20%
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WAIT FOR IT
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ohio is getting a ton of flack from its liberal neighbor states too, and that is a factor
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plus, Ohio voted to keep abortion as a right, and the maga gop state gove actively ignored their vote
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fuck, this illegal august election was to make sure they could actively punish those sections who voted to keep abortion
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they just told Ohio state gov "Abortion is a right, and you can go fuck off"
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66% counted, no in the lead by about 270 thousand
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This is special for me because I have a lot of relatives from the state
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good
9:48 PM
there is hope for Ohio
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74-75%. Unless things take a sudden turn south No wins
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Map makeup is as expected
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Safe to say that No wins with about 300 thousand votes. A blow out failure for Columbus
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No wins!
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Now almost by 400 thousand votes!
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joe hill’s revenge 8/8/2023 11:58 PM
Leave the technocratic tinkering to Obama. Weak movements need strong demands. They shock and capture the imagination; they give meaning to our short-term projects; they forge our supporters into a revolutionary oppositional counterculture. Back in the 1960s, the Black Panthers demanded a nationwide plebiscite to establish black self-determination in the United States. How many members did they have when they raised that demand? Ten thousand? Twenty thousand? Two. It was just Huey P. Newton and Bobby Seale sitting in a dining room, drafting a founding document. That audacity—that strategic insanity—won them the respect of millions. For all its shortcomings, they built a nationwide revolutionary organization that captivates the American Left to this day.
https://cosmonautmag.com/2021/03/fight-the-constitution-demand-a-new-republic/
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LETS FUCKING GOOO
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For once good job ohio
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If only it wasn't gerrymandered to hell it wouldn't have been proposed to begin with
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I have relatives, lots of them, that live in Ohio so I was paying extra attention to this one
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Steve Mike 8/9/2023 8:36 AM
Fuck yeah Ohio
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BubsyFanboy 8/9/2023 8:55 AM
Iraq’s official media regulator on Tuesday ordered all media and social media companies operating in the Arab state not to use the term “homosexuality” and instead to say “sexual deviance,” a government spokesperson said and a document from the regulator shows.
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There are no "red states", there are gerrymandered states and states where too many people don't vote.
DevilTheAutopoet 8/9/2023 10:26 AM
Going off of party preference data from each state, if there was perfect representation/turnout, this is what the Presidential election map would look like.
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Going off of party preference data from each state, if there was perfect representation/turnout, this is what the Presidential election map would look like.
blue texas and louisianna 😳
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Going off of party preference data from each state, if there was perfect representation/turnout, this is what the Presidential election map would look like.
DevilTheAutopoet 8/9/2023 10:27 AM
(Important Note: The data I used underreports the youth vote, as polls in general tend to do.)
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blue texas and louisianna 😳
DevilTheAutopoet 8/9/2023 10:28 AM
Both of those states have more Democrats than Republicans now. It's just a matter of turnout and districting.
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Both of those states have more Democrats than Republicans now. It's just a matter of turnout and districting.
i know
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blue texas is kind of a meme because its always nextelection ™️ but then democrat voters just dont vote
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/9/2023 10:29 AM
Hell, Paxton admitted that Texas would've gone blue in 2020 if he hadn't interfered.
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Also, with the exception of Alabama, the Dakotas, Tennessee, and Wyoming, the Republican leads in their states are all pretty small.
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even idaho?
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and utah?
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and WV lol
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/9/2023 10:34 AM
Oh shit, forgot Idaho and Utah. No those are strong too. But West Virginia's Republican lead is shockingly small.
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Only like 2%.
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damn, that's a state that went to trump with 68%
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second only to wyoming
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and a 63% turnout
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damn, that's a state that went to trump with 68%
DevilTheAutopoet 8/9/2023 10:38 AM
Appalachia was historically a rural Democrat stronghold, but a lot of Appalachian voters got swept up in the idea of Trump as a representative of the working class. He spoke to issues that directly affected them and managed to pull a lot of them over. It's much more to do with Trump's marketing than any actual affinity for the Republican Party.
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Appalachia was historically a rural Democrat stronghold, but a lot of Appalachian voters got swept up in the idea of Trump as a representative of the working class. He spoke to issues that directly affected them and managed to pull a lot of them over. It's much more to do with Trump's marketing than any actual affinity for the Republican Party.
alright
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damn they voted 45.6% for al gore
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and 42.6% for obama in 2008
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its really with obama's second term that they completely lost it
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35.5%, then 26.5% for clinton
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/9/2023 10:45 AM
I think 2012 it was less to do with opposition to Obama and more to do with the fact that his opponent was Romney. That election was basically "Obama vs white Republican Obama".
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tfw romney could now run as a democrat and we wouldnt even see the difference for the democratic party
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/9/2023 10:47 AM
The slogan of those two's debates could've been "I fundamentally agree with you, but I would do it slightly differently."
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MisterStompy 8/9/2023 12:45 PM
STUNT ON THESE HOES, MISTER FUKUYAMA
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/9/2023 12:51 PM
lmfao
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Twitter’s initial resistance to complying with the warrant resulted in a federal judge holding the company in contempt and levying a $350,000 fine.
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I feel like if they were dumb enough to do that, that would be a drone target very very quickly
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Going off of party preference data from each state, if there was perfect representation/turnout, this is what the Presidential election map would look like.
Arizona is more purple-blue. Native vote has become a real shift maker in Arizona politics
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and the tribes there really really hate the GOP
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I feel like if they were dumb enough to do that, that would be a drone target very very quickly
AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/9/2023 1:08 PM
Normally, I don't like drone warfsre this, this is an exception
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not only that. part of Ukraine's warfront has been actively targetting sources of disinfo
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like finding a disinfo farm, seizing/firing/arresting them and throwing them into prisoner of war jails (or their equivalent) and seizing their desktops for both evidence but also intel
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BubsyFanboy 8/9/2023 1:15 PM
Since August 7, numerous Russian Internet users have reported experiencing technical problems with VPN services. The issues have affected customers of mobile operators like MTS, MegaFon, Beeline, Tele2, Yota, and Tinkoff Mobile, while VPNs on fixed line providers like Rostelecom seem to be operating fine, according to the site SecurityLab.
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suddenly vpns start aggressively donating to Ukraine
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MisterStompy 8/9/2023 1:58 PM
OH MY GOD
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MisterStompy 8/9/2023 2:07 PM
for those who don't get it
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/9/2023 2:22 PM
...I really hope they do. And I hope people go. That would be fucking awesome.
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Arizona is more purple-blue. Native vote has become a real shift maker in Arizona politics
DevilTheAutopoet 8/9/2023 2:24 PM
I based the map off of party preference data from Pew Research.
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Pew is normally pretty good, but polls can be cheesed (edited)
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best to not trust them too much
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Pew is normally pretty good, but polls can be cheesed (edited)
DevilTheAutopoet 8/9/2023 4:17 PM
Yeah. As I pointed out above, almost all polls that don't directly target young voters tend to underrepresent young voters. Which is becoming a bigger and bigger issue as more of GenZ reaches voting age. GenZ is possibly the most politically active youth generation in American history.
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GenZ is basically entirely responsible for stemming the red wave in the 2022 midterms, and there'll be several million more of them in 2024. Meanwhile there'll be several million fewer boomers.
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Millennials too. I actually have a theory that the lack of polls factoring anyone under 40 is due to spam calls (edited)
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we're hardwired to not trust any weird or unknown numbers (edited)
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and polling is originally done by phone
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MisterStompy 8/9/2023 5:16 PM
"Finally, they are free of the degeneracies of western influence!" "WHAT THE FUCK WHY WON'T THE WEST GIVE THEM ANY MONEY?!?!?!?!?!" https://vxtwitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1689058903592669185
BREAKING: World Bank says there will be no new financing to Uganda due to its adoption of the Anti-Homosexuality Act 💖 13446
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MisterStompy 8/9/2023 5:34 PM
Anyway do the Saudis next lol
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Millennials too. I actually have a theory that the lack of polls factoring anyone under 40 is due to spam calls (edited)
DevilTheAutopoet 8/9/2023 5:37 PM
True, though Millennials aren't as heavily left-skewed as GenZ. Iirc, about 60% of Millennials vote Democrat, as opposed to like 75% of GenZ.
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true, but there's also the factor of Millennials being overworked rn, comparatively.
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jobs can fuck you up voting wise
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jobs not letting enough time to vote is why CA passed the state right of "your boss has to give you 2+ hours to vote. If he doesn't report him and keep in line"
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the increased normalization of drop off and mail in likewise also helps combat this
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drop offs have been a god send on our end every election
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it helps I have a drop off near both the fire station and, ironically, the cops
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but even then, quite a few drop offs are near schools, which in turn means trying shit is frowned upon, to say the lease
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/9/2023 6:07 PM
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MisterStompy 8/9/2023 6:34 PM
Matt Walsh really isn't worth that much money, come on
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/9/2023 6:34 PM
He isn't worth a drop of piss in a public toilet.
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Yeah. As I pointed out above, almost all polls that don't directly target young voters tend to underrepresent young voters. Which is becoming a bigger and bigger issue as more of GenZ reaches voting age. GenZ is possibly the most politically active youth generation in American history.
AvoidOblivion 8/9/2023 6:35 PM
Unfortunately, I believe only around 1/4 of eligible voters among Gen Z have registered to vote. In my senior year english class our teacher asked who in the class was 18, and seven or eight of us raised our hands. He followed it with a question about how many of us were registered to vote, and at most two other people raised their hand. I preregistered to vote before obtaining my license.
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This man needs his children taken away.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/9/2023 7:40 PM
MAP Walsh being a pedo again.
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FBI special agents shot and killed a Utah man Wednesday while attempting to arrest him for allegedly making threats against President Joe Biden ahead of the president’s trip to the state.
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MAP Walsh being a pedo again.
AvoidOblivion 8/9/2023 9:37 PM
Don’t use the term “MAP.” It legitimizes pedophilia.
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Don’t use the term “MAP.” It legitimizes pedophilia.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/9/2023 10:08 PM
Like Matt Walsh is trying to do. Hence the name.
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Don’t use the term “MAP.” It legitimizes pedophilia.
tbh as someone who wants to get into animation, I have a deep loathing of MAPs
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go straight to jail, ya'll waste of organs and skin
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but yeah I second don't use MAP or use it in a more explicitly blunt MAP=Pedos way
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One of ecuador's presidential candidates juste got assassinated
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what?
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what?
https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1689434905199972352?s=20 its not graphic but, well, its the footage
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https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1689434905199972352?s=20 its not graphic but, well, its the footage
From what I've read dude was a socdem who opposed Ecuador's former leftist movement in some ways, but probably got hit because he was investigating/publicizing the links between the current right wing gov and the ascendant narcos
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From what I've read dude was a socdem who opposed Ecuador's former leftist movement in some ways, but probably got hit because he was investigating/publicizing the links between the current right wing gov and the ascendant narcos
yeah its likely a narco stuff
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Where we sit now, 88 days since 70% of Thailand voted for change, is that the winner of the election has been barred from forming government, and its 'democratic' coalition partner has drunk from the poisoned chalice by partnering with the junta for power. Political suicide.
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fucking traitors
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TLDR: thailand had an election in may, in which 70% of the population voted for pro-democracy parties
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the two main parties were Pheu Thai, the more "classic" pro democracy party, basically liberals
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and Move Forward, a very much radical (comparatively) social democratic party, which came first with 38% of the vote (pheu thai got 28%)
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however, in thailand you don't need a majority of the house to get the prime ministership, you need a majority of PARLIAMENT. So house + senate
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and the senate is made of 250 people appointed by the military junta
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so you need something like 85% of the vote to bypass the senate
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inevitably, that failed
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and now, Pheu Thai is going for an alliance with the fucking pro-junta party!
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(move forward: orange, pheu thai: red, the blue parties are pro junta)
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thai civil war?
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the military said they wouldn't try to coup
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but they don't need to, the system is about as rigged as elections in hong kong
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if they have managed to fucking buy pheu thai out, then its donezo for the pro-democracy camp
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rest assured that, next election, pheu thai will fucking cease to exist
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that level of backstabbing holy shit
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that but I also mean the population
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Thailand has a ugly history of civil wars and constant revolutions tbh
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it happens when your country keeps ending up with dictators, one way or another
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BubsyFanboy 8/10/2023 5:41 PM
"I want fuck you sex sex sex" is so absurd that it becomes hysterical
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joe hill’s revenge 8/10/2023 7:02 PM
Why is ECOWAS putting so much pressure on Niger? They haven’t threatened to invade Mali or Burkina Faso even though they both had coups against elected governments.
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Niger coup is russian fascist backed
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and its a message to france, who have been pretty fucking open on Fuck Russia
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plus, even so, other african countries know that it won't just stop at Niger, so they want to make examples of why its a bad idea
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joe hill’s revenge 8/10/2023 9:11 PM
Wagner was involved in the other two coups I mentioned, and less than in Niger actually.
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I'm not sure what I think about the Niger situation, it seems very complicated but I don't want war
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But Niger is one of the poorest countries on earth, and the people of Niger deserve more than just being a battleground between European countries
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/10/2023 9:32 PM
Guess what, the people of Niger don't like the coup and the Junta could have simply ceeded to the demands of ECOWAS
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The Junta fucked around and is about to find out
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Play stupid games and win stupid prizes if you may
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/10/2023 10:04 PM
Well, would you look at that. (edited)
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 8/10/2023 10:15 PM
this suprised me
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA]
this suprised me
AvoidOblivion 8/10/2023 10:48 PM
I love to see it.
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA]
this suprised me
AvoidOblivion 8/10/2023 10:58 PM
The results it gave me for centralization and international vs. national were not what I was expecting. I'll admit that the wording of some of the questions was confusing, and that with several of the questions I was not knowledgeable enough to give an answer in any direction. It aligned me most with eco-anarchism as well, but said I matched most with democratic socialism, which is my acceptable temporary alternative before we can reach the anarcho-communist society I would like.
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Guess what, the people of Niger don't like the coup and the Junta could have simply ceeded to the demands of ECOWAS
joe hill’s revenge 8/10/2023 11:06 PM
“The people of Niger” how do you know that? All the reports I’ve seen are of supportive demonstrations
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Im sure anti coup voices exist, but who represents them?
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The state department line is “restore the constitutional order.” That’s not good enough when the constitutional order failed so badly. How about we focus on how to get France to buy into being a good partner with its former African colonies instead of practicing pure neo colonialism
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/10/2023 11:51 PM
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joe hill’s revenge 8/11/2023 12:24 AM
Link pls
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Link pls
DevilTheAutopoet 8/11/2023 12:25 AM
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joe hill’s revenge 8/11/2023 12:27 AM
72 questions no thank you
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Also political personality tests in general are just horoscopes for redditers
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AvoidOblivion 8/11/2023 7:33 AM
The party managers of GroenLinks and PvdA officially nominated Frans Timmermans to lead their joint left-wing bloc in the parliamentary elections in November. He is the only candidate NOS reports.
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Idk I'm not dutch I don't know all their politicians
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AvoidOblivion 8/11/2023 7:35 AM
I guess I mistook it for Belgium.
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Also political personality tests in general are just horoscopes for redditers
DevilTheAutopoet 8/11/2023 9:40 AM
Then why ask for the link?
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Then why ask for the link?
joe hill’s revenge 8/11/2023 10:40 AM
I was curious
12:43 PM
all my homies hate trump 😎 🇧🇪
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MisterStompy 8/11/2023 2:41 PM
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/11/2023 3:08 PM
These people aren't actually Christian in any real sense. They couldn't give less of a fuck about the teachings of Christ. For them, being "Christian" is just a matter of essential identity. To them it's a term for "their people" who think, talk, look, and act like them. It's the vague "us" in their "us vs them" mindset. So they have no problems disregarding the doctrine and philosophy of the Christian religion entirely if they feel doing so is necessary for the preservation of the interests of the "Christian people" and the establishment and empowerment of the "Christian nation".
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These people aren't actually Christian in any real sense. They couldn't give less of a fuck about the teachings of Christ. For them, being "Christian" is just a matter of essential identity. To them it's a term for "their people" who think, talk, look, and act like them. It's the vague "us" in their "us vs them" mindset. So they have no problems disregarding the doctrine and philosophy of the Christian religion entirely if they feel doing so is necessary for the preservation of the interests of the "Christian people" and the establishment and empowerment of the "Christian nation".
its just tribalism really
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These people aren't actually Christian in any real sense. They couldn't give less of a fuck about the teachings of Christ. For them, being "Christian" is just a matter of essential identity. To them it's a term for "their people" who think, talk, look, and act like them. It's the vague "us" in their "us vs them" mindset. So they have no problems disregarding the doctrine and philosophy of the Christian religion entirely if they feel doing so is necessary for the preservation of the interests of the "Christian people" and the establishment and empowerment of the "Christian nation".
Biblical Christianity is like one step away from anarcho-syndicalism at worst
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Speaking of which, what do y’all think about a social media effort idea that’s been percolating in my mind - trying to promote progressive or at least anti-fascist values by using Christianity to argue for those things (with the goal of deradicalizing potential fundamentalists)
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Well THAT'S new
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IN FIGHTING
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I don't trust these fuckers. Gotta be some kind of strategy "Donald Trump cannot be president — cannot run for president, cannot become president, cannot hold office — unless two-thirds of Congress decides to grant him amnesty for his conduct on Jan. 6." Sounds like they are saying, in order to save their god-king, they have to take over congress. Like they are signaling the next plan to their base (edited)
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Turn out the vote vibes
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Or they are saying that they have to get him acquitted of the charges
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Free Speech For People and Mi Familia Vota are now urging Secretaries of State and chief election officials across the country to follow the mandate of Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment and bar Trump from any future ballot.  This campaign is about more than January 6th and it is about more than DonaldRead More
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I don't trust these fuckers. Gotta be some kind of strategy "Donald Trump cannot be president — cannot run for president, cannot become president, cannot hold office — unless two-thirds of Congress decides to grant him amnesty for his conduct on Jan. 6." Sounds like they are saying, in order to save their god-king, they have to take over congress. Like they are signaling the next plan to their base (edited)
Oh, I don't either...but my first thought was "Trump will see this as a negative and attack them"
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MisterStompy 8/12/2023 12:47 PM
"yeah I'm a populist, I'm just concerned with the people of my nation" sucks up to and gets tons of monetary support from foreign dictatorships https://www.dw.com/en/china-courts-germanys-far-right-populist-afd/a-66504263?maca=en-rss-en-all-1573-rdf
The far-right populist Alternative for Germany party rejects a values-based foreign policy, just as much as it rejects NATO and the US. That approach has attracted the attention of Beijing.
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MisterStompy 8/12/2023 1:24 PM
both parties are not the same
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yup
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/12/2023 10:57 PM
Rebecca Smith
California Gov. Gavin Newsom is proposing an end to public disclosure of investigations of abusive and corrupt police officers.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/12/2023 11:05 PM
Dems are not your friend. They are a political meat shield against the very people they like to signal boost for "easy wins". Nothing more.
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But the GOP is your enemy
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But the GOP is your enemy
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/13/2023 1:36 AM
Fascism is my enemy, no matter what party espouses or supports it.
1:36 AM
Just because the GOP is comprised of repugnant fools does not mean dems are absolved of their own sins.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/13/2023 1:44 AM
Don't fall into hero worship.
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True. But right now the GOP are our enemy. When/if we survive them, then we deal with the dems BS
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exactly
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1 opponent at a time people. 1 opponent at a time
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i swear debating antivaxxers is less productive than a talking to tantruming toddler
5:28 AM
le independant swing voter but somehow everything is biden's fault lol
5:29 AM
they're so untrusting of the government i sent them a few NCBI research articles as bait. NCBI is a .gov website, but all 4 articles I sent are not from americans, first one is european, 2nd is russia, 3rd is bengladesh and 4th is iranian
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so i'm just waiting for the BUT ITS .GOV
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aaaaaand they did lmao
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wtf
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BubsyFanboy 8/13/2023 10:43 AM
Poland’s ruling party wants to ask voters in a referendum if they support accepting “thousands of illegal immigrants from the Middle East and Africa” as part of a European Union relocation plan.
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MisterStompy 8/13/2023 3:26 PM
When it comes to China, we have something in common with the great 18th-century intellectuals Adam Smith and Voltaire. The latter once called China “the wises
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oh no
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OH NO
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MisterStompy 8/13/2023 4:08 PM
Man who saw that being a bad idea?
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"Prosecutors involved in the Georgia investigation into former President Trump’s attempts to stay in power in 2020 have obtained evidence showing a 2021 voting machine breach was part of a “top-down push” by Trump’s legal team to access sensitive voting software" HHHMMM THAT SOUNDS LIKE A BIT OF LIGHT TREASON
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BubsyFanboy 8/14/2023 8:26 AM
A Moscow court fined transgender blogger Milana Petrova (born Andrey Petrov) 250,000 rubles (€2500) for “discrediting” the Russian army and spreading “LGBT propaganda”, local news outlets and head of Russia’s “Safe Internet League” Ekaterina Mizulina reported on Monday.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/14/2023 1:05 PM
Europeans ☕
3:58 PM
Wake up babe new ecosystem just dropped
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I think we are not talking enough about what just happened in argentina
4:26 PM
That fash party who took the lead in the primaries would make boebert and MTG look like progressive leftists in comparison jfc
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Straight up being the lawyers to defend the former junta during their prosecution for crimes against humanity
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Level of fucked up
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As a Mexican American, I'm not surprised Argentina did that shit, but as a Mexican American, I might be a bit bias in my lack of surprise.
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Argentina has a history of admittedly fashy shit and any neighbors of their have to deal with the mess after
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As a Mexican American, I'm not surprised Argentina did that shit, but as a Mexican American, I might be a bit bias in my lack of surprise.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/14/2023 5:06 PM
Same thing here, although perspective comes from a little more down south
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the not surprised bit
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/14/2023 5:08 PM
its not just in Argentina tbf, Latam as a whole has a history of very fashy shit
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its not just in Argentina tbf, Latam as a whole has a history of very fashy shit
AvoidOblivion 8/14/2023 5:09 PM
It's always either the fash or the red fash.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/14/2023 5:09 PM
Ayup
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You look to every country here and they have had a taste of that
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with us was Noriega
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In my case, general history and some understanding of inner Latin American countries rivalries and socio political clashes are a big factor in the whole Mexico vs Argentina stuff Or Cubans vs other Latin American people
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its not just in Argentina tbf, Latam as a whole has a history of very fashy shit
Oh fair, absolutely valid, but Argentina has a history of both fashy shit and harassing other Latin American countries with their fash shit. Plus there is a cultural double standards they historically have had. (This varies per person, obviously)
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In my case, general history and some understanding of inner Latin American countries rivalries and socio political clashes are a big factor in the whole Mexico vs Argentina stuff Or Cubans vs other Latin American people
AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/14/2023 5:11 PM
Eh, tbf in general, we have a tendency to hate eachother a lot
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In my case, general history and some understanding of inner Latin American countries rivalries and socio political clashes are a big factor in the whole Mexico vs Argentina stuff Or Cubans vs other Latin American people
AvoidOblivion 8/14/2023 5:12 PM
Is this going to continue into the Willie meme from The Simpsons? Where he is listing every person that Scots hate, including other Scots?
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exactly but there's some common ground. Argentina is one of those countries who's shenanigans against other Latin countries everyone else can agree with "god damnit Argentina!"
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Is this going to continue into the Willie meme from The Simpsons? Where he is listing every person that Scots hate, including other Scots?
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Ok but more seriously nah, just pointing out that historically Latin countries have a history of some in fighting
5:15 PM
Especially if one neighbor is in fascist state
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‘If a grand jury presents an indictment, that’s usually in the afternoon, and you can film and photograph that,’ judge tells media
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welp time to put down trump trial on my bingo card
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popcorn intensifies
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Live updates and latest news coverage of the 4th indictment of Trump by Georgia grand jury for election interference
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WE GOT A LIST PEOPLE
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41 INDICTMENTS TOTAL
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THEY GOT EM FOR RICO
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HE AIN'T GETTING PARDONED FOR SHIT
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RICO charges are unpardonable in Georgia law btw
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That fash party who took the lead in the primaries would make boebert and MTG look like progressive leftists in comparison jfc
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/14/2023 11:44 PM
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 8/15/2023 3:59 AM
The Biden administration is canceling student loan debt for 804,000 borrowers who qualify under income-driven repayment plans but haven't received it because of errors
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It's always either the fash or the red fash.
DevilTheAutopoet 8/15/2023 10:35 AM
In some cases it's red fash in the most literal way possible. Like Argentina in particular seems really adamant about proving horseshoe theory right with all the variations of Peronism.
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That fash party who took the lead in the primaries would make boebert and MTG look like progressive leftists in comparison jfc
DevilTheAutopoet 8/15/2023 10:44 AM
Did he take the lead? I thought JxC was still ahead?
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Did he take the lead? I thought JxC was still ahead?
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/15/2023 10:49 AM
Why are UP and JxC splitting their votes amongst multiple candidates?
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Also, how tf did LLA rise in popularity so quickly? Didn't they only get like 2 seats in the chamber last election?
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Why are UP and JxC splitting their votes amongst multiple candidates?
because its the primary
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Also, how tf did LLA rise in popularity so quickly? Didn't they only get like 2 seats in the chamber last election?
honestly not unheard from with the far right, one election they have 5% and 2 seats, next one 35% and half the congress, i mean look at bolsonaro
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honestly not unheard from with the far right, one election they have 5% and 2 seats, next one 35% and half the congress, i mean look at bolsonaro
DevilTheAutopoet 8/15/2023 11:14 AM
True. And I guess most of Latin America is still in the stage of industrial development wherein it's possible for political coalitions to obtain sweeping victories through class collaborationist promises of productive investment in key labor-intensive sectors. When the US was in that phase from the 30's to the 80's, almost every election was a total blowout, but the victor shifted pretty frequently.
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True. And I guess most of Latin America is still in the stage of industrial development wherein it's possible for political coalitions to obtain sweeping victories through class collaborationist promises of productive investment in key labor-intensive sectors. When the US was in that phase from the 30's to the 80's, almost every election was a total blowout, but the victor shifted pretty frequently.
nevertheless
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Javier Gerardo Milei (Spanish pronunciation: [xaˈβjeɾ miˈlej] (listen); born 22 October 1970) is an Argentine politician and economist serving as a federal deputy of Buenos Aires and leader of the political coalition La Libertad Avanza. Since December 2021, Milei has been a National Deputy (member of the Argentine Chamber of Deputies) in Buenos ...
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this guy is absolutely fucking terrifying
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dude
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is literally ok
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with selling children
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and organs
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with selling children
DevilTheAutopoet 8/15/2023 11:34 AM
Oh wow, so he just absorbed everything Rothbard wrote with like zero independent thought then. Cause most AnCaps I've come across still objected to most of Rothbard's takes on children. Unless they're Hoppeans, but that's really its own thing.
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Oh wow, so he just absorbed everything Rothbard wrote with like zero independent thought then. Cause most AnCaps I've come across still objected to most of Rothbard's takes on children. Unless they're Hoppeans, but that's really its own thing.
I also really enjoyed the "fiat currency is a scam but it's cool if we dollarize the economy"
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I also really enjoyed the "fiat currency is a scam but it's cool if we dollarize the economy"
DevilTheAutopoet 8/15/2023 11:36 AM
It seems like he wants that for the sake of access to crypto? Which... why would they need to dollarize for that?
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It seems like he wants that for the sake of access to crypto? Which... why would they need to dollarize for that?
🤷‍♂️ utter lunatic
11:37 AM
i remember reading a comment from someone from latam or something that was like "well for a lot of argentines who voted for him they're either extremely stupid or they believe he will finally burn the whole thing down for good"
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i swear accelerationists are the dumbest people on the planet
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🤷‍♂️ utter lunatic
DevilTheAutopoet 8/15/2023 11:40 AM
Also, I don't understand by what metric one could conceivably denote fiat currency as a scam, but crypto as completely legit? They basically operate the exact same way, except that one is produced by central banks staffed by expert economists and the other is produced by rich dickheads who can afford to have warehouses full of processing units consuming massive amounts of energy. (edited)
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i remember reading a comment from someone from latam or something that was like "well for a lot of argentines who voted for him they're either extremely stupid or they believe he will finally burn the whole thing down for good"
DevilTheAutopoet 8/15/2023 11:40 AM
So they're voting for him in hopes that he'll fuck shit up so badly it'll spark another revolution?
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Also, I don't understand by what metric one could conceivably denote fiat currency as a scam, but crypto as completely legit? They basically operate the exact same way, except that one is produced by central banks staffed by expert economists and the other is produced by rich dickheads who can afford to have warehouses full of processing units consuming massive amounts of energy. (edited)
yes absolutely
11:42 AM
both only have as much value as we give them
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So they're voting for him in hopes that he'll fuck shit up so badly it'll spark another revolution?
well not necessarily for a revolution but more so to burn the whole country down and "finish it off" and starts something better afterwards kind of stuff
11:42 AM
instead of the constant state of collapse argentina is currently suffering (edited)
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when i say accelerationists i dont necessarily mean leftists here
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just people who are like "oh i just want the country to collapse once and for all and we can start again from a blank slate" as if thats how it works
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when i say accelerationists i dont necessarily mean leftists here
DevilTheAutopoet 8/15/2023 11:43 AM
No, I don't imagine l/Acc's would support this guy.
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anyone remembers what was the event when white southerners overthrew a black city council or something?
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i forgot the name of the event and cant find it back with google
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The Wilmington insurrection of 1898, also known as the Wilmington massacre of 1898 or the Wilmington coup of 1898, was a coup d'état and a massacre which was carried out by white supremacists in Wilmington, North Carolina, United States, on Thursday, November 10, 1898. The white press in Wilmington originally described the event as a race riot c...
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Honestly I thought of Tulsa
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Although Tulsa was more akin to white racists assholes who where pissed Black people could get rich
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Like
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robber Baron rich
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Honestly I thought of Tulsa
yeah also that
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The term ACAB has only hurt its own agenda due to its literal meaning being the opposite of what its ment to convey
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good
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The ex-president operated like a Mafia boss and, thanks to a new racketeering charge, may go down like one too.
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speaking of fucked right wing parties
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Judge Beryl Howell lit into Twitter for taking steps to give Donald Trump advance notice about the search warrant.
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A fringe website featured the purported names and addresses of the Fulton County grand jury that indicted Trump and 18 others for their efforts to overturn the 2020 election.
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GOP is shittin' bricks to get additional charges
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/16/2023 9:27 PM
Daily reminder that the official Harry Potter world map for schools of wizardry is definitely very imperialist
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................ what in the god damn-
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/16/2023 9:53 PM
Are we really surprised Rowling turned out to be a dip shit?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/16/2023 9:56 PM
no
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Jk rowling is the one true friend of the Soviet union, Greater German Empire, the Qing dinasty and the greater Ottoman Empire
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shit world building. Not even once
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also she's a british bigotted asshole
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shit world building. Not even once
AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/16/2023 11:27 PM
Ah...hahaha
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hahahaa
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HAAHAHAHA
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HAHAHAAH
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Daily reminder that the official Harry Potter world map for schools of wizardry is definitely very imperialist
I like how it all matches up except for the three guineas.
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joe hill’s revenge 8/16/2023 11:57 PM
Anyone following the Myanmar conflict
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?
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Insurgencies have been ongoing in Myanmar since 1948, the year the country, then known as Burma, gained independence from the United Kingdom. The conflict has largely been ethnic-based, with several ethnic armed groups fighting Myanmar's armed forces, the Tatmadaw, for self-determination. Despite numerous ceasefires and the creation of autonomou...
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Daily reminder that the official Harry Potter world map for schools of wizardry is definitely very imperialist
Also worst politics ever, Argentines brazilians and chileans in one school. Irish and British people together. Vietnamese and Chinese together. Pakistanis and Indians together. Ukranians, Kahzaks, and Russians together. Spanish and French together. The balkans. Those are not schools those are warzones. The only school that somehow works is Ilvermoney.
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At least it isn't as bad as the map that shoved koreans and japanese together.
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Watching this rn
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Anyone following the Myanmar conflict
I do
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Daily reminder that the official Harry Potter world map for schools of wizardry is definitely very imperialist
DevilTheAutopoet 8/17/2023 1:08 PM
Wtf are these divisions?
1:10 PM
Also, Mercator map bad.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/17/2023 1:43 PM
Ex-president and co-defendants, including Giuliani, can ‘turn themselves in at any time’, sheriff’s office says
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LouisiAnarchist 8/17/2023 3:11 PM
I found all of this wild documentary footage about a wildcat strike at Mead Corporation in Atlanta, GA, in 1972. Many of the workers were also members or involved with A communist org called the October League, which gave the strike a lot of interesting militancy.
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Wildcat strike, strong militant tactic
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oh, oh this gonna be good
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Also, Mercator map bad.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/17/2023 3:40 PM
eh, i don't really care about other maps, I think Mercator is a very simple and efficient way of portraying the more political aspects of the planet
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eh, i don't really care about other maps, I think Mercator is a very simple and efficient way of portraying the more political aspects of the planet
DevilTheAutopoet 8/17/2023 4:43 PM
Mercator bad. Winkel Tripel ftw.
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Kavrayskiy VII and Robinson are also acceptable.
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Eckert VI is also okay, but very ugly.
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MisterStompy 8/17/2023 4:57 PM
The fact that people are just ignoring these glorious motherfuckers toppling the junta to restore their democracy is heartbreaking. Guns to the Myanmar rebels NOW.
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MisterStompy 8/17/2023 5:07 PM
Alright, who wants to catfish Steven Crowder? https://vxtwitter.com/SammiRaeMurray/status/1692243992732225773
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femboy time?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/17/2023 6:27 PM
Break out the Astolfo.
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MisterStompy 8/17/2023 7:01 PM
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/17/2023 7:02 PM
good christ
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i get that the child should have been aborted but that is just plain cruel
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MisterStompy 8/17/2023 7:02 PM
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/17/2023 7:03 PM
get me one aswell will you?
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i get that the child should have been aborted but that is just plain cruel
Ideally abortion was the answer. Along with the removal of Seth Dillon's own....limb imo
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But yeah that's a paddlin' shotgun
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MisterStompy 8/17/2023 7:10 PM
Like I don't say this about many people, but Seth Dillon is one of those guys where you could do literally anything to him, anything at all, and it would not make you a worse person than he is should you do it. You would always be "the better person" no matter what action you took against him. Everything is on the table.
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Fair
7:18 PM
Matt Walsh is mine
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/17/2023 7:20 PM
The cruelty is the point.
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Matt Walsh is mine
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/17/2023 7:21 PM
I'll take Benny Johnson or Michael Knowles.
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I mean
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If you're a sketchy ass, of course people gonna think your sketchy
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the egyptian government just murdered a thousand protestors in cold blood
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they massacred a tent city
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the egyptian government just murdered a thousand protestors in cold blood
joe hill’s revenge 8/17/2023 9:37 PM
I think u misread
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It was 10 years ago today
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why dont we talk about it more?
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MisterStompy 8/17/2023 9:56 PM
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joe hill’s revenge 8/17/2023 9:59 PM
Is that a Babylon Bee article (edited)
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joe hill’s revenge 8/17/2023 10:00 PM
They can’t be telling on themselves
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Like that
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/17/2023 10:00 PM
I feel like I need a shower after reading that.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/17/2023 10:19 PM
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/17/2023 10:44 PM
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Smells vaguely fake. And that's assuming the Department is acting with Biden knowing, which to be fair, I doubt
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Yeah that last til the upper admin is informed
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And Harris being digging in the Department of education to break DeSatan's knees, so definitely on their radar soon enough
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/17/2023 11:15 PM
This happened days ago.
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Exactly
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But more seriously sounds like the "University" needs a visit from some UC Davis style shenanigans
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I'll bring the umbrellas
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/17/2023 11:20 PM
You mean to tell me no one informed the upper echelon in the days following something this big of a PR nightmare?
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Yes
11:21 PM
And similar shit has happened before
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As J6 showed, all it takes is a couple of assholes to fuck up a moderately decent machine
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I am expecting someone gonna get fired from this once it comes to their attention
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Fuck, Kennedy had a similar problem with the Military during Nam!
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Real hand shooting foot bullshit
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Bit of context on Vietnam, the military was admittedly downplaying the difficulty they suffered to the public including the President who was Kennedy at the time
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However Kennedy was pissed when he found out
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Alas, he got assassinated by Oswald
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/17/2023 11:29 PM
Technology has advanced considerably since then.
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True, but never underestimate the sheer stupid of some people sometimes
11:32 PM
That said, the skeptic in me isn't wondering if this is a form of entrapment
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/17/2023 11:46 PM
The oldest article I found on this is from almost a week ago.
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I still find it hard to believe no one told him in that time.
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That said, I don't fully agree with the poster's comments on libs.
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MisterStompy 8/18/2023 1:00 AM
"Sure our economy is in the shitter and we're on the verge of an unprecedented housing crisis, but gay people can get married in the west so they're way worse off!" https://vxtwitter.com/JChengWSJ/status/1692175468127248578
Chinese leader Xi Jinping has called for patience in a speech released as the ruling Communist Party tries to reverse a deepening economic slump and said Western countries are “increasingly in trouble” because of their materialism and “spiritual poverty.” https://apnews.com/article/china-economy-xi-jinping-31f7da267b90d5b9c0136734… 💖 166
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"Sure our economy is in the shitter and we're on the verge of an unprecedented housing crisis, but gay people can get married in the west so they're way worse off!" https://vxtwitter.com/JChengWSJ/status/1692175468127248578
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/18/2023 1:28 AM
"Spiritual poverty" from the guy creating concentration camps for religious minorities.
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Shut the fuck up, Xi.
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to be fair, this intervention is also to send a message to powers like China and Russia
2:50 PM
coup of our governments are not tolerated
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DeSantis pushed an aspect of the independent legislature theory, a fringe legal idea the Supreme Court has rejected.
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MEANING HIS ASS COULD BE CHARGED WITH RICO
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now, there needs mroe evidence but this is pretty big
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I am so angry now, this is how communist revolutions get started.
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Also we need to change our definition of ownership, those who use something have ownership of something that supersedes capitalist notions of ownership. This only applies to property however.
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the problem is SCOTUS, (until its dealt with, legally or otherwise) who are wanting to strengthen land owners
4:32 PM
but yeah that's a good way to get a Terror
4:33 PM
these landlords be wanting to enact the French Revolution of Maui
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Dans la médecine
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Très expert et très malin
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Fit une machine
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Pour purger le corps français
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De tous les gens à projets
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C'est la guillotine, ô gué
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C'est la guillotine
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joe hill’s revenge 8/18/2023 5:01 PM
Pro coup demonstrator in Niger
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/18/2023 5:14 PM
Explore this post and more from the ToiletPaperUSA community
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Also, Mercator map bad.
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MisterStompy 8/20/2023 11:44 AM
A clothing store owner in California was shot and killed over a pride flag hanging outside her store.
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She had nine children.
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her killer got arrested
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currently in jail rn
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does this person have a personal grudge or something?
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good
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How would a socialist society deal with flash mob retail robberies, aside from distributing resources enough so that people didn't feel the need to do this? https://www.cbsnews.com/video/los-angeles-leaders-establish-task-force-to-address-spike-in-retail-flash-mob-robberies/
Los Angeles has seen a recent spike in flash mob robberies at high-end retailers, part of an ongoing issue that has prompted L.A. officials to announce a new multi-agency task force to crack down on the problem. Tina Patel has more.
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How would a socialist society deal with flash mob retail robberies, aside from distributing resources enough so that people didn't feel the need to do this? https://www.cbsnews.com/video/los-angeles-leaders-establish-task-force-to-address-spike-in-retail-flash-mob-robberies/
for starters, rather controversially, I argue that we target the getaway drivers
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can't flash mob when your ride is gone
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likewise, I argue that the stories should imo have more stricter guidelines over their merch being so easy to grab. Yes, I know this is a controversial but there is a argument on keeping more expensive stuff behind locked behind cases. I do wonder tho, if this is a more...organized effort then expected
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cops think its because bail release is too low
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but this is too organized for a bunch of petty thieves
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I'm thinking long term organizing criminal groups behind this, like that train robbery that stole a fuckton of guns
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likewise, I suspect some level of inside men goin' on
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Indeed, this takes three cars and something like this takes effort to execute in any meaningful timeframe. I do also think a for lack of a better person a "steve" is involved aka someone completely average is on site to tell people when it is go time and when the police are coming.
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a inside man
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investigate the staff of these malls
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the thieves are quick, generally don't want to actively harm, no guns, no hardcore weaponry, just bear mace
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just get in, get out
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that's easier if they got a inside man
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they also know to deal with security first
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it reminds me of the hole-in-the-wall gang
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bunch of wiseguys and made men who where stationed in Las Vegas to help the Mob's operations there. They felt like, because the Mob kept Vegas pretty safe, it was untapped for thievery and protection rackets
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fuck it wouldn't surprise me if they have a inside man in the cops
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not the first time organized crime rings have one or two cops as spies/snitches
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Nah, I don't think they are making enough for that sort of thing.
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you'd be surprised
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we're talking huge name brands that go for like 200 a pop
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True, but why would the police do that when they can just steal money and claim it as a municipal violation or just rob people while serving a warrant.
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lower on the totem pole, possibly pissed at their bosses for whatever reason, basic greed
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/20/2023 9:35 PM
ok thats it, I'm into anarchism a lot more now
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idk why, i kinda stopped liking capitalism a lot recently
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ok thats it, I'm into anarchism a lot more now
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/20/2023 10:54 PM
https://youtu.be/h_T7bD4pAlE Join us. We have a cool theme.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment
ok thats it, I'm into anarchism a lot more now
BubsyFanboy 8/21/2023 7:22 AM
fair enough
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I personally got out of it not too long ago
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My journey from ancap to economically ambivalent happened lasted one second
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And all it took was me asking "if people can self-organize an anarcho-capitalist society*, then who's to stop them from making an anarcho-communist one?" *nowadays I think trying to make one is quite dangerous (edited)
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https://youtu.be/h_T7bD4pAlE Join us. We have a cool theme.
AarborneDivision 8/21/2023 12:26 PM
Mommy Anarchy Loves Her Sons
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/21/2023 12:34 PM
M-Mommy? sorry, Mommy? sorry, Mommy? sorry
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/21/2023 3:35 PM
no
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you can't tell me what to do
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M-Mommy? sorry, Mommy? sorry, Mommy? sorry
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Monke Mountgomerierium Moker 8/21/2023 8:29 PM
Capitalism... is bad.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/21/2023 9:07 PM
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Honestly what we need to do is to get rid of the sexualization of the lgbtq+ people in the republican party's minds. Because their first thought after hearing trans is, threesome. Or gay, which means bdsm. It's annoying and stupid.
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Good luck with that
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The GOP are horny and instead of processing it healthy they instead blame the people that make them horny
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Some real Frollo shit
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/22/2023 2:51 AM
I did a deep dive into the Lake Arrowhead shooter’s social media and found exactly what you’d expect.
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Shooter was a far-right religious zealot whose dad was a cop.
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BubsyFanboy 8/22/2023 5:13 AM
why does this exist
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why does this exist
joe hill’s revenge 8/22/2023 5:36 AM
People support iy?
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People support iy?
BubsyFanboy 8/22/2023 5:37 AM
Not a whole lot
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But it is building structures across Poland
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And it is still part of Konfederacja (the coalition)
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So it wouldn't be too surprising if next time they got more seats in parliament
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I think this is an interesting video not only by itself, but because it's very much exactly how fascists take power in governments
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TIL evangelicals used to be pro-abortion
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From the American Revolution to the mid-19th century, abortion was legal in every state under the common law until quickening, not an issue of significant controversy, and most Americans held to the traditional Protestant Christian belief that personhood began at ensoulment rather than conception Connecticut was the first state to regulate abortion in 1821; it outlawed abortion after quickening and forbade the use of poisons to induce one post-quickening Evangelical Christians were initially overwhelmingly either supportive or indifferent to Roe — citing what they saw as a lack of biblical condemnation on the matter, its perceived affirmation of religious liberty, and furthering of non-intrusive government
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From the American Revolution to the mid-19th century, abortion was legal in every state under the common law until quickening, not an issue of significant controversy, and most Americans held to the traditional Protestant Christian belief that personhood began at ensoulment rather than conception Connecticut was the first state to regulate abortion in 1821; it outlawed abortion after quickening and forbade the use of poisons to induce one post-quickening Evangelical Christians were initially overwhelmingly either supportive or indifferent to Roe — citing what they saw as a lack of biblical condemnation on the matter, its perceived affirmation of religious liberty, and furthering of non-intrusive government
DevilTheAutopoet 8/22/2023 11:57 AM
The church actually used to be an overwhelmingly progressive force in the US. There were a handful of conservative churches such as the Southern Baptist Church which split from the Baptist convention specifically to cater to white supremacy. But for the most part churches were actually heavily involved in many of the movements for expanding civil rights and liberties throughout US history.
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/22/2023 12:13 PM
The Fourth Great Awakening and televangelism really fucked shit up.
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Yes
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We need another Houdini
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for those that don't know, a factor in the failure of the third great awakening was Harry Houdini. Yes, seriously. Man hated spiritualist which a good chunk of the third Great awakening was, and made it his life's goal to debunk their bullshit when he could
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/22/2023 4:15 PM
We did have another great Houdini, James Randi https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Randi
James Randi (born Randall James Hamilton Zwinge; August 7, 1928 – October 20, 2020) was a Canadian-American stage magician, author and scientific skeptic who extensively challenged paranormal and pseudoscientific claims. He was the co-founder of the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry (CSI), and founder of the James Randi Educational Foundation (JRE...
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sadly, his hard work was in vain
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anyone willing to moderate a subreddit i created?
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dm me if you want more information
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its a political subreddit
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anyone willing to bite?
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in case you wonder, this is the subreddit
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i will seriously consider any applicatiob
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anyone willing?
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why does this exist
Monke Mountgomerierium Moker 8/22/2023 5:36 PM
poland even has a popular monarchist movement?
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Monke Mountgomerierium Moker
poland even has a popular monarchist movement?
BubsyFanboy 8/22/2023 5:44 PM
Not really popular
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But part of a popular far-right coalition unfortunately is true
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/22/2023 5:46 PM
A federal judge ruled against an attempt to have an AI-generated artwork copyrighted, saying "human authorship is a bedrock requirement."
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But part of a popular far-right coalition unfortunately is true
Monke Mountgomerierium Moker 8/22/2023 6:31 PM
thankfully the polish far right is weakening past 2020
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they've probably gotten more radical, but definitely not larger
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/22/2023 8:39 PM
Fun fact, he has his own fucking unhinged comic
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AIF Cuirassier regiment
Fun fact, he has his own fucking unhinged comic
AarborneDivision 8/22/2023 9:05 PM
What in the United Fruit Fuck?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment
We did have another great Houdini, James Randi https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Randi
Stolas_of_the_Stars 8/22/2023 10:10 PM
I show videos of Randi in my classes to talk about skepticism as a means of scientific thinking. The one particularly where he debunks the televangelist is so money.
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Ah I bet this is on r/badcopnodonut. Don't go on there it will destroy your faith in police.
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Ah I bet this is on r/badcopnodonut. Don't go on there it will destroy your faith in police.
AvoidOblivion 8/23/2023 11:15 AM
You assume my faith in police hasn't already been destroyed.
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Ah I bet this is on r/badcopnodonut. Don't go on there it will destroy your faith in police.
MisterStompy 8/23/2023 3:22 PM
>implying I had much faith in them to begin with
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/23/2023 3:39 PM
As a certain rapper once said, "Fuck da police.".
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/23/2023 3:41 PM
song still slaps
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 8/23/2023 5:15 PM
We got Rudy’s Mugshot (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/23/2023 5:22 PM
charges?
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 8/23/2023 5:36 PM
Not sure yet
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AvoidOblivion 8/23/2023 5:48 PM
I have one comment to add right now regarding the "discussion" in #memes: Trey claimed that he hasn't seen anyone "picked on" for, at the least, sharing views that could be regarded as tankies. Does he not remember the time I called out Ian H./joe hill's revenge? I brought up many instances of tankie views and tankie-esque views and asked that he be removed from the server. Nothing came of it from what I am aware of, which I am personally fine with, as Ian H./joe hill's revenge has been very helpful with growing the server and hasn't shared any tankie comments that I am aware of. Trey's comment also just shows that this server has not been around long enough for it to happen often. I can only hope that such things never happen again. I agree with Ian H./joe hill's revenge's comment saying that not everyone who votes Republican is an enemy. I disagree with the second part of that comment if one is looking at US politics and relations strictly. Democrats do not just "end up supporting fascism" in the US, BUT it is accurate with US international policy. Saudi Arabia is an excellent example of that. If anyone would like to continue this peacefully, I'd be happy to. If one enters into it in bad faith, they will be alone.
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High def version.
AvoidOblivion 8/23/2023 6:06 PM
Is this beautiful or ugly?
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I have one comment to add right now regarding the "discussion" in #memes: Trey claimed that he hasn't seen anyone "picked on" for, at the least, sharing views that could be regarded as tankies. Does he not remember the time I called out Ian H./joe hill's revenge? I brought up many instances of tankie views and tankie-esque views and asked that he be removed from the server. Nothing came of it from what I am aware of, which I am personally fine with, as Ian H./joe hill's revenge has been very helpful with growing the server and hasn't shared any tankie comments that I am aware of. Trey's comment also just shows that this server has not been around long enough for it to happen often. I can only hope that such things never happen again. I agree with Ian H./joe hill's revenge's comment saying that not everyone who votes Republican is an enemy. I disagree with the second part of that comment if one is looking at US politics and relations strictly. Democrats do not just "end up supporting fascism" in the US, BUT it is accurate with US international policy. Saudi Arabia is an excellent example of that. If anyone would like to continue this peacefully, I'd be happy to. If one enters into it in bad faith, they will be alone.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 8/23/2023 6:06 PM
Honestly, nothing to add. You summed it up pretty well
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Is this beautiful or ugly?
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 8/23/2023 6:07 PM
I think it’s a context thing
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Ugliness is beauty in the right context
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Monke Mountgomerierium Moker
they've probably gotten more radical, but definitely not larger
Ironically the right wing cozying up to Russia made the possibility of a leftist Poland a real thing
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Ironically the right wing cozying up to Russia made the possibility of a leftist Poland a real thing
Monke Mountgomerierium Moker 8/23/2023 6:27 PM
they got too obsessed with "owning le libs" that theyre literally killing their supporterbase to be contrarian
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for no good reason
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they got too obsessed with "owning le libs" that theyre literally killing their supporterbase to be contrarian
good
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Monke Mountgomerierium Moker 8/23/2023 6:28 PM
let them go down with the russians i guess
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probably gonna be the death of all these russophilic nazi parties and movements (edited)
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cant wait to see that finally
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/23/2023 6:54 PM
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Monke Mountgomerierium Moker 8/23/2023 6:55 PM
real?
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real?
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/23/2023 6:55 PM
Attorney General Dave Yost announced the settlement after state investigators found a fake charity raised thousands more than previously thought.
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Monke Mountgomerierium Moker 8/23/2023 6:56 PM
that sounded way too villainous to be real holy shit
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/23/2023 6:56 PM
Well, Republicans are basically moustache-twirling cartoon villains at this point. (edited)
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Well, Republicans are basically moustache-twirling cartoon villains at this point. (edited)
Monke Mountgomerierium Moker 8/23/2023 6:57 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/us/biden-admin-gets-burned-after-considering-study-block-sun then they say shit like "JOE BIDEN IS PLOTTING TO BLOCK OUT THE SUN"
Twitter users expressed confusion over a released document revealing that the Biden administration is studying how to block sunlight to prevent climate change.
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like hes some comical supervillain
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Tbh blocking the sun to ease up on climate change actually sounds vaguely something the JL would do
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Monke Mountgomerierium Moker
https://www.foxnews.com/us/biden-admin-gets-burned-after-considering-study-block-sun then they say shit like "JOE BIDEN IS PLOTTING TO BLOCK OUT THE SUN"
Sorry you are looking for Mr. Burns. Also putting some particulates in the atmosphere would be useful. If it didn't potentially damage the ozone layer.
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here in belgium a few days ago a cop killed a man who was on a quad, after the quad drove towards them and started rolling over his colleague during a routine control
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it seems to be a pretty obvious case of self defense, but the policer will still be investigated to make sure the facts are as described
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just saying... aint that hard to have police accountable
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(also the fact that a police killing, even in a situation of self defense, is national news for over a week in a country more populated than new jersey)
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quite a lot of riots and threats against cops and even the mayor since though
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/biden-admin-gets-burned-after-considering-study-block-sun then they say shit like "JOE BIDEN IS PLOTTING TO BLOCK OUT THE SUN"
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Have you lot heard of this song that is a hit among Regressives titled “Rich Men North of Richmond”? Given that Richmond was the capital of the CSA, this seems to be very clearly pandering to Neo-Confederates along the North-South divide. Yet, I see no articles acknowledging this. Thoughts? https://www.npr.org/2023/08/24/1195566500/rich-men-north-richmond-republican-primary-debate (edited)
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Yeah, it's being heavily astroturfed too lol (edited)
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definitely a neo-Confed dogwhistle
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Have you lot heard of this song that is a hit among Regressives titled “Rich Men North of Richmond”? Given that Richmond was the capital of the CSA, this seems to be very clearly pandering to Neo-Confederates along the North-South divide. Yet, I see no articles acknowledging this. Thoughts? https://www.npr.org/2023/08/24/1195566500/rich-men-north-richmond-republican-primary-debate (edited)
DevilTheAutopoet 8/24/2023 10:16 AM
I think because it's mainly conservatives listening to it and promoting it, nobody who cares about it is particularly inclined to point out that it's confederate apologia. Also, as mentioned, it's one of the most blatantly astroturfed songs I've ever seen.
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Astroturfed?
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It's "popularity" is manufactured by right-wing organizations
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Making it seem as if it's got much more support than it actually does
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Like when the buy their own books in mass to make it a “best seller”?
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exactly
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It's no surprise that all the books by conservative pundits on the NYTimes Bestseller List have suspiciously timed mass orders
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Mass orders should be banned from best seller listing tbh
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MisterStompy 8/24/2023 3:36 PM
95% sure this is bait.
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but there's always that 5%
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95% sure this is bait.
joe hill’s revenge 8/24/2023 3:43 PM
I love how this statement is made from a place of utter powerlessness. “My obscure internet phenomena must forgive the Nazis” like dude who cares
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MisterStompy 8/24/2023 3:44 PM
MAGA Communists: We forgive you, comrades Nazis: Who the fuck are you?
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joe hill’s revenge 8/24/2023 3:44 PM
Definitely not the Nazis
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Also dude u weren’t at Stalingrad
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What are you forgiving?
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joe hill’s revenge 8/24/2023 3:51 PM
@Eazy8 Antifa Viking
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Right now the American regime is exceptionally weak
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 8/24/2023 3:52 PM
I think that there would be enough public support that the military would be able to use the ruthless tactics you need to employ to truly crush an insurgency
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I think that there would be enough public support that the military would be able to use the ruthless tactics you need to employ to truly crush an insurgency
joe hill’s revenge 8/24/2023 3:53 PM
It would depend on who was doing it and what tactics they used
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Insurgency is a broad term
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Insurgents can range from mostly non violent to full on terrorists
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Look at how the bundy standoffs went down
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It’s a fact that if large numbers of armed white right wing militants take over a spot they’ll be able to stand down the federal police
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I think that an insurgency that focused on creating autonomous zones and didn’t actively fight the government could gain a lot of ground shockingly quickly
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But yes if they went full ira they’d be crushed.
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However the third possibility is s three way fight right wing insurgents vs left wing insurgents vs the army that could go very badly
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 8/24/2023 9:26 PM
HE FOT HIS MUGSHOT
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joe hill’s revenge 8/25/2023 2:27 PM
Mikhail Podoliak has claimed that Ukraine will retake the peninsula within seven months Ukrainian Presidential adviser Mykhailo Podolyak...
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Cultural genocide
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Crimea shouldn't have been in Russian hands. It's Ukraine's. While the wording was poor, the aide is right that given Russia astroturfing efforts makes the Russian influence suspect in any non Russian country. Likewise Crimea's recent (circa new 10s) pro Russian influence likewise needs to be re-evaluated to see if it's genuine or not.
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Plus Russia DID basically steal a whole ass part of Ukraine with the goal of actually seizing the rest of it
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Also, just gonna remind you all, Russia has been using intentional pro-Russian influence to normalize and encourage cultural genocide against anything non-Russian Like the Ukrainians
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Research your sources and make sure you aren't falling for bias news, especially with Russia trying to demonize Ukraine rn
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/25/2023 5:52 PM
Pro-Russian sentiment in Crimea predates the Russian invasion of 2014, and the vast majority of Crimeans when polled by Western sources, including literal US state department sources like VOA, have said that they believe the results of the polls the Russians did after the invasion do reflect an actually existing consensus amongst Crimeans.
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I feel like we need to stop examining geopolitics in a neorealist way and claiming liberal ideals like self-determination as post hoc justification. Either be blatantly self-serving in your geopolitics, or be actually consistent in your principles, but people need to stop trying to mask realpolitik with false idealism. (edited)
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/25/2023 6:09 PM
As for me, I do support self-determination. To that end, Crimea is Russian not Ukrainian, Donetsk and Luhansk are Ukrainian not Russian (for that matter Ukraine is Ukrainian not Russian), Taiwan is Taiwanese not Chinese, the West Bank is Palestinian not Israeli, Scotland is European not British, and Catalonia is Catalan not Spanish, and Texas, much to the ire of many white conservatives, is American not independent.
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I feel like we need to stop examining geopolitics in a neorealist way and claiming liberal ideals like self-determination as post hoc justification. Either be blatantly self-serving in your geopolitics, or be actually consistent in your principles, but people need to stop trying to mask realpolitik with false idealism. (edited)
i agree, that said i wonder how the "mood" has now changed in crimea since the feb 2022 invasion
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on one hand, in ukraine proper, the invasion has turned most of the pro russians into fierce pro ukrainians
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on the other hand, many ukrainians and minorities have fled crimea and many russians have settled there
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a big problem i have with self determination is: what if you had large population shifts, what do you do then?
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be it israeli settlers or russian ones, where is the line drawn between "these are illegal settlers and should be ousted" and "they have lived there long enough, this is their land now"
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in the case of israeli, my personnal opinion is: get the fuck out of west bank and most of east jerusalem, but israel as of its 1948-1967 border can stay, and im not quite sure about the golan heights (though i must say i believe a two state solution wouldnt solve much and if thats the end solution, conflict WILL persist)
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/25/2023 6:15 PM
The problem with the two state solution is it's the status quo framed as something new. It should be called the two state problem.
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for crimea i think russia should be kicked out of the peninsula, and an actual, transparent, internationally observed referendum should be held there, between "crimea as a ukrainian autonomous oblast respecting russian language and culture" and "russia as a russian autonomous republic respecting ukrainian, tatar, greek, ... language and culture"
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and probably kick out anyone who settled there since 2014 tbqh while allowing the return of those who lived there before the annexation, so long as they can prove beyond a doubt they indeed lived there at the time
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(for the vote i mean, not necessarily physically kicking them out of their homes) (edited)
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because otherwise all the illegal russian settlers who came there in the past 9 years would skew the vote
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The problem with the two state solution is it's the status quo framed as something new. It should be called the two state problem.
west bank and gaza strip would insanely suffer as an independant nation because of their geography, gaza has almost nothing to support an economy, the west bank is somewhat better but still very isolated and landlocked
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but they cant be let under the israeli boot either
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its a very complex situation to solve, if possible to solve at all
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be it israeli settlers or russian ones, where is the line drawn between "these are illegal settlers and should be ousted" and "they have lived there long enough, this is their land now"
DevilTheAutopoet 8/25/2023 6:20 PM
I feel like what generally ends up being the line in practice for me is "if your grandparents were there before they conceived your parents, you can make a legit claim". Basically, after two and a half generations it becomes difficult to say people should get booted.
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I feel like what generally ends up being the line in practice for me is "if your grandparents were there before they conceived your parents, you can make a legit claim". Basically, after two and a half generations it becomes difficult to say people should get booted.
yeah, these people were born there, had no say in the matter, and possibly nowhere to go back to (in the case of israel)
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MisterStompy 8/25/2023 6:22 PM
BREAKING: A Texas district court blocked the state's unconstitutional medical care ban targeting transgender youth, finding the law likely violates the rights of parents under the Texas state constitution.
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I FUCKING LOVE THE CONSTITUTION RAAAAAAGH
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when you use the abusive parental rights law to destroy the abusive anti-trans laws
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west bank and gaza strip would insanely suffer as an independant nation because of their geography, gaza has almost nothing to support an economy, the west bank is somewhat better but still very isolated and landlocked
DevilTheAutopoet 8/25/2023 6:25 PM
I feel like the best case for the Palestinian people would be for the West Bank to be absorbed into Jordan and the Gaza Strip to be absorbed into Egypt. Problem is Israel would absolutely flip the fuck out at that suggestion.
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I feel like the best case for the Palestinian people would be for the West Bank to be absorbed into Jordan and the Gaza Strip to be absorbed into Egypt. Problem is Israel would absolutely flip the fuck out at that suggestion.
that... or a genuine one state solution, maybe a la bosnia
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utterly unrealistic though
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mentalities on both sides would have to change tremendously for it to even be thinkable
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but well, one of the main reasons why israel never outright annexed gaza and west bank is because that would give the arabs a LOT of political power in elections, and also because it allows them to to extralegal bs, a la guantanamo
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that... or a genuine one state solution, maybe a la bosnia
DevilTheAutopoet 8/25/2023 6:26 PM
Binat confed?
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Binat confed?
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yeah
DevilTheAutopoet 8/25/2023 6:28 PM
If well set up it could work beautifully. If not...
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Well it would basically just turn out exactly like what we have now really.
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So ig nothing much to lose?
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If well set up it could work beautifully. If not...
yeah hence why i said its just unthinkable as of now, both sides utterly despise each other way too much for it to work, and both sides have been radicalising fast since the 90s with likud on one side and hamas on the other
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Binat confed?
AvoidOblivion 8/25/2023 6:29 PM
Would that be similar to Austria-Hungary in terms of structure?
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i mean, i am belgian and we kinda of are a very weird and complex federation
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with all federated entities enjoying a large amount of autonomy
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so thats not entirely impossible, but we also dont hate each other that much, especially compared to palestine
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i think regardless of what is attempted, conflict and hatred will stay for decades to come
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i despise hamas, but the problem is that hamas has so far been the only effective palestinian organization
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unlike the PLO/Fatah who sold out to israel in the eyes of the palestinian people, hamas managed to force the israeli out of the gaza strip and there are no settlers there anymore
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so the palestinians have little reason to stop supporting them
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Would that be similar to Austria-Hungary in terms of structure?
DevilTheAutopoet 8/25/2023 6:34 PM
Kinda? I would say... think like the structure of the Russian Federation, but if it only had two republics. And hopefully with a better and less corrupt legislative-executive structure.
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in my opinion, israel has to take a step forward, they are the side that holds the power here, but as i said the israeli politics have gotten more and more radicalized over the past few decades and there is pretty much no party that even wants to solve the problem
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israel or the USA lol
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also, unrelated, but Niger's junta has asked the french and US ambassadors to leave
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/25/2023 6:35 PM
TAMPA, Fla. (WFLA) — “Rich Men North of Richmond” singer Oliver Anthony said in a new YouTube video on Friday that his song being mentioned in the GOP debate was funny because he …
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He's just on a mission to piss everyone off and I love it
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not available in my country, whats it saying?
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MisterStompy 8/25/2023 6:44 PM
"alright, the lefties are mad, now I just have to make a very mild statement about how it's okay to have a black person about your neighbor and get the other guys"
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not available in my country, whats it saying?
MisterStompy 8/25/2023 6:44 PM
The guy who wrote "Rich Men North of Richmond" is mad that republicans used his song at their debate because the song is also about them lmao
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when you use the abusive parental rights law to destroy the abusive anti-trans laws
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I feel like the best case for the Palestinian people would be for the West Bank to be absorbed into Jordan and the Gaza Strip to be absorbed into Egypt. Problem is Israel would absolutely flip the fuck out at that suggestion.
In Israel's defense, Egypt being at their border is begging for shit about to go down. Those two have a history. A ugly history, and with Egypt's antics with its own shitty expansionist behavior, that's a BAD idea. (edited)
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I feel like we need to stop examining geopolitics in a neorealist way and claiming liberal ideals like self-determination as post hoc justification. Either be blatantly self-serving in your geopolitics, or be actually consistent in your principles, but people need to stop trying to mask realpolitik with false idealism. (edited)
Tbf, I hate realpolitik. Genuinely. But you'd be a idiot to not know how that works. Ideals are good, but you can't afford to be stupid nor claim idealism will work without some effort or cunning on your behalf. And yes, much like firearms as a method of self defense, you must understand realpolitik to challenge its dominance. As for Crimea, as a rule, I'm against separation completely unless its explicitly a dictatorship they are splitting from. But even back in 2014, I argue those numbers should be held under suspect given the history of the Region (Crimea has always belong to Ukraine, the so called Russiaifican is arguably due to Stalin's attempts of ethnic cleansing of the Tartars who originally held the land, along with systematic demonization of their Ukrainian roots, something that has plagued the area well before, not helped with Putin using them as a testing ground for his disinfo campaign.) (edited)
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Also sorry for this, you can blame empire total war but Return of the Crimean Khanate when
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oh GOD
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/25/2023 7:20 PM
lmao
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I have opened the floodgates!
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/25/2023 7:20 PM
Indeed you have
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MisterStompy 8/25/2023 8:45 PM
Rich men North of Richmond singer says “it’s aggravating seeing people on conservative news try to identify with me like I’m one of them.” He says it’s funny they used it in the GOP debate because “I wrote that song about them.”
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 8/25/2023 9:29 PM
You know what, I’m thinking of forming my own political ideology, Progressivism. Basically a more left wing version of what TR espoused
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You know what, I’m thinking of forming my own political ideology, Progressivism. Basically a more left wing version of what TR espoused
be very careful
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i wanted to change things up and ive been hurt. leftists cannibalize them selves when one doesnt fall in line. (edited)
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Charlie Gerow is calling for investigations into the group’s top leader and its financial practices.
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/26/2023 12:07 PM
Are people on the left really gonna start cheering this guy just because he says he doesn't like Republicans?
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Are people on the left really gonna start cheering this guy just because he says he doesn't like Republicans?
MisterStompy 8/26/2023 12:07 PM
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I'm not cheering him I just think it's a funny situation
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I like the drama
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/26/2023 12:16 PM
I've seen some lefties acting like he's a hero for saying this. But like... no. I'm not gonna buy the fake populism of a guy who spent more time in his NeoConfederate song bitching about fat people on welfare than anything else.
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MisterStompy 8/26/2023 12:21 PM
The guy is an industry plant after all, that got exposed a few days ago
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/26/2023 12:34 PM
what
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AN OUTSIDER WITH SWAGGER
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MisterStompy 8/26/2023 12:36 PM
The exaggerated swagger of a political outsider
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/26/2023 12:37 PM
Lnfao (edited)
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based
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unbelievably based
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can we appreciate this absolute mad lad for a moment though?
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BubsyFanboy 8/26/2023 4:25 PM
Lowkey this is kinda sweet of Trump
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Still gotta keep a thin and cursive font tho
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Can't trick the grandmas otherwise
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In Israel's defense, Egypt being at their border is begging for shit about to go down. Those two have a history. A ugly history, and with Egypt's antics with its own shitty expansionist behavior, that's a BAD idea. (edited)
I'd differ to be honest, Egypt and Israel are for all practical matters allied. Neither capital nor military dared to break the status post Camp David, but have actually sought to strengthen it. The two states have infamously been on rather friendly terms since the Sinai was returned, in spite of a hostile Egyptian populace. I'd say the main issue with Egyptian annexation of Gaza is that last time it happened, the Gazans were pretty much sidelined. Relations have been even more strained after Egypt's participation in the Gaza blockade. As for Jordan, yeah, Black September.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/28/2023 10:27 AM
Pope Francis has blasted the “backwardness” of some conservatives in the U.S. Catholic Church, saying they have replaced faith with ideology and that a correct understanding of Catholic doctrine allows for change over time. Francis’ comments were an acknowledgment of the divisions in the U.S. Catholic Church, which has been split between progre...
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/28/2023 10:41 AM
you know you're fucked when the pope says you're a piece of shit
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MisterStompy 8/28/2023 2:06 PM
DeSantis was booed relentlessly after he showed up and hijacked a community vigil to honor the victims of the racist mass shooting in Jacksonville.
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Does that mean this is now technically officially heresy to be a gop and catholic and that US catholic fash are Interdict? (edited)
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Auto correct why
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/28/2023 7:04 PM
I mean... you have Protestant pastors saying that people are coming up to them after sermons and preaching "liberal nonsense" when they literally quote Jesus. So it's really not surprising this is happening with Catholics as well.
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So it's heresy then
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Welp
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MisterStompy 8/28/2023 10:10 PM
Look at Buttigieg's eyes here. This man does not register the faces of people he aims that rifle at. Everything from the neck up is just a blur.
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He looks like a hardened killer but all he did was drive around bases. I don't get it.
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You can't fake an expression like that.
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BubsyFanboy 8/29/2023 7:19 AM
Roman Giertych, who founded and led the nationalist All-Polish Youth and was once an ally of Jarosław Kaczyński, will now stand for the opposition.
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MisterStompy 8/29/2023 12:32 PM
All Kyle had to do was shut the fuck up and lay low for a few years but instead he made his entire personality about what happened that night. I fully believe that everybody involved in that situation was a moron, and that just because Kyle was legally acting in self defense doesn't mean he's some hero. If he hadn't let all of this go to his head, he wouldn't be getting sued right now. https://twitter.com/ThisIsKyleR/status/1695206874344476714 (edited)
I’m being sued again for defending my life. https://t.co/6CrN40Y6tB
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You don't want to "go on with your life". You want a spotlight, this is what it looks like.
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And regardless of anything, anybody who believes he didn't go there with the express intention of putting himself in a situation in which he would get to shoot somebody is a fucking idiot. Saying that doesn't mean I'm "siding" with the people he shot, either.
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MisterStompy 8/29/2023 12:46 PM
In other news, Lance Armstrong is concerned that trans people might gain an unfair advantage in sports due to hormone usage. https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2023/08/adam-rippon-felt-wildly-uncomfortable-over-lance-armstrongs-trans-athlete-views
Rippon, the winner of ‘Stars on Mars,’ said “everything changed” when Armstrong “brought up his opinions on trans athletes and sports.”
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Yes, that Lance Armstrong.
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Up next, Jared Fogle expresses his concerns that trans people are a danger to children.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/29/2023 12:50 PM
lmfao
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up next, Harvey Weinstein expresses concerns about workplace harassment
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MisterStompy 8/29/2023 12:51 PM
Shirley Phelps expresses her belief that the trans movement is inherently homophobic.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/29/2023 12:51 PM
works with elon too
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i was gonna say it about workplace harassment but that one works too
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MisterStompy 8/29/2023 12:53 PM
Elon Musk accuses trans people of forcing lavish gifts on their harassment victims.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/29/2023 12:53 PM
lmao
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Elon musk accusses trans people of racism
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MisterStompy 8/29/2023 12:54 PM
Clarence Thomas believes there's an issue with wealthy trans individuals bribing state officials to influence legal policy.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/29/2023 12:57 PM
Acme conglomerate raises concerns over faulty products
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MisterStompy 8/29/2023 12:58 PM
The Grinch is tired of trans people ruining the spirit of Christmas
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And regardless of anything, anybody who believes he didn't go there with the express intention of putting himself in a situation in which he would get to shoot somebody is a fucking idiot. Saying that doesn't mean I'm "siding" with the people he shot, either.
AarborneDivision 8/29/2023 1:21 PM
Yup, homeboy decided he wanted to take the opportunity to become an icon. Now he gets to live with that decision, and the consequences that come with it
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Yup, homeboy decided he wanted to take the opportunity to become an icon. Now he gets to live with that decision, and the consequences that come with it
MisterStompy 8/29/2023 1:28 PM
I don't have any pity left for him. At this point he's just digging himself deeper despite his own lawyers saying he should have just stayed off the grid for a while.
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MisterStompy 8/29/2023 1:36 PM
Okay so random hot take: Mark Cuban for president.
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All Kyle had to do was shut the fuck up and lay low for a few years but instead he made his entire personality about what happened that night. I fully believe that everybody involved in that situation was a moron, and that just because Kyle was legally acting in self defense doesn't mean he's some hero. If he hadn't let all of this go to his head, he wouldn't be getting sued right now. https://twitter.com/ThisIsKyleR/status/1695206874344476714 (edited)
Look this wouldn't have happened if you didn't try to milk your actions for all they were worth.
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polish election looking to be very tight
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as of now, the most likely outcome according to polls would be united right (PIS basically) + confederation coalition
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MisterStompy 8/30/2023 8:41 AM
Look at that, the Neo Nazi loves modern China.
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Look at that, the Neo Nazi loves modern China.
lmao dude really thinks we dont have open air markets
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idk about the US but here in belgium we got these markets every single week
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idk about the US but here in belgium we got these markets every single week
MisterStompy 8/30/2023 12:35 PM
we have them here too lol
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(the merchants move locations every day)
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(its even better when your city is actually walkable just sayin')
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walkable cities is really not just about cities being walkable, here in western europe (i imagine some parts of the US too) every village is built around a square and thats not only a great place for social gatherings, events, markets, but also great travel hubs making easy public transportation possible
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sadly we're seeing more and more american suburbias popping up everywhere making it harder to actually have public transportation that can reach everyone
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idk about the US but here in belgium we got these markets every single week
AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/30/2023 12:42 PM
a large part of our workforce is based around small quiosk shops
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my grandma has a quiosk
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a lot of restaurants here are fondas, which are basically walk up, get your food and fuck off
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you mean kiosk?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/30/2023 12:43 PM
yeah, these
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we have a lot of them
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food is banger most of the times
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sometimes you'll get food poisoning
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but this isnt really what im talking about
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/30/2023 12:43 PM
yeah, still
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liberalism is when stores have locks
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idk about the US but here in belgium we got these markets every single week
DevilTheAutopoet 8/30/2023 12:44 PM
We do in some places. In any sort of urban environment it generally has licensing requirements that can be prohibitive, and of course there's spatial difficulty due to American infrastructure. So it's mostly in more suburban or rural areas. But you occasionally see it in certain cities like Austin, Madison, Nashville, etc.
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like, i'm talking about an actual square, which is often simply called the townsquare, and the whole village build itself around it
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if a city gets too big, we'll just have more squares, and thats where most of the shops are, where the busstops are, ...
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its really hard to be more than a km away from one
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MisterStompy 8/30/2023 12:44 PM
A Current Affairs article, in a crusade to shit on Pete Buttigieg, is pushing a lie that Matthew Shephard, the gay teen brutally lynched in Wyoming, was actually a drug kingpin. Horseshoe theory prevails yet again. https://twitter.com/curaffairs/status/1696224627717194162
‘I Have Something to Tell You’ by @Chasten provides a blueprint for an LGBTQ politics whose only challenge to American empire and capitalism is that our most oppressive institutions should be queer-affirming. by @NairYasmin https://t.co/97fkaroE35
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liberalism is when stores have locks
AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/30/2023 12:44 PM
and communism is when open air market
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(according to the dude lol)
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like, i'm talking about an actual square, which is often simply called the townsquare, and the whole village build itself around it
AvoidOblivion 8/30/2023 12:45 PM
We don’t get those. If we did have them at some point, they would have been destroyed for vehicle-centered infrastructure.
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and communism is when open air market
tbf, here in belgium we are so left wing that even the priests make communist apologia sometimes lmao
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/30/2023 12:45 PM
lmao
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A Current Affairs article, in a crusade to shit on Pete Buttigieg, is pushing a lie that Matthew Shephard, the gay teen brutally lynched in Wyoming, was actually a drug kingpin. Horseshoe theory prevails yet again. https://twitter.com/curaffairs/status/1696224627717194162
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my grandma died in early 2023, and during the funeral ceremony, the priest (not technically a priest since there's a huge shortage these days since pretty much no one cares about religion anymore) wanted to tell some stories and whatever, you know the usual stuff
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and he wanted to showcase the "christian love", and for that he took the exemple of early christians who, according to him "always helped each other, shared everything... its a bit like communism if you will"
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imagine a catholic priest saying that lol
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well where i live the left wing parties (and i mean actual left wing parties) get like 70%+ of the vote so.... it reflects on the people lol
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we have streets like Salvatore Allende streets and even fucking USSR street
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bunch of streets named after american presidents too, especially the roosevelts, its quite something
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welcome to wallonia, the two things we love the most are left wing politics and whoever freed us during the last world wars lmao
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almost more UK/US/Canada flags flying around than Belgian ones
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MisterStompy 8/30/2023 12:49 PM
There's a giant Bill Clinton statue in Kosovo
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which I mean, yeah, it's understandable as to why they have that
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There's a giant Bill Clinton statue in Kosovo
AvoidOblivion 8/30/2023 12:50 PM
I’m proud to call Kosovo an ally. We know the struggle of fighting for independence against a more powerful government.
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which I mean, yeah, it's understandable as to why they have that
and the bosnian serbs still suck putin's dick hard
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they're kinda like southerners, they didnt get the lesson taught hard enough
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I’m proud to call Kosovo an ally. We know the struggle of fighting for independence against a more powerful government.
there are always some shenanigans with the serb majority municipalities and sometimes it get a bit ugly, but aside from that kosovo is pretty ok
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they're kinda like southerners, they didnt get the lesson taught hard enough
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Beginning on 31 July 2022, tensions between Serbia and Kosovo heightened due to the expiration of the eleven-year validity period of documents for cars on 1 August 2022, between the government of Kosovo and the Serbs in North Kosovo. Kosovo, which declared independence in 2008, signed an agreement with Serbia in 2011 that determined the use of l...
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walkable cities is really not just about cities being walkable, here in western europe (i imagine some parts of the US too) every village is built around a square and thats not only a great place for social gatherings, events, markets, but also great travel hubs making easy public transportation possible
DevilTheAutopoet 8/30/2023 12:51 PM
That used to be more common here. Also, historically most towns, villages, and neighborhoods in the US were built around a town hall, church, community center, YMCA, or 3rd place which served those purposes. However, the Reagan administration shut a lot of those institutions down to prevent something like the Civil Rights movement from happening again (the Civil Rights movement was largely organised out of 3rd places). So now, it's much more common to see communities without a real "center", whether they were built that way or because said center was torn down.
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MisterStompy 8/30/2023 12:52 PM
>Kosovar Serbs are encouraged not to vote in elections >Kosovar Albanians win all the elections WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING?!
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AvoidOblivion 8/30/2023 12:52 PM
I remember when a NATO bomber flew over Serbia, just as a little reminder.
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That used to be more common here. Also, historically most towns, villages, and neighborhoods in the US were built around a town hall, church, community center, YMCA, or 3rd place which served those purposes. However, the Reagan administration shut a lot of those institutions down to prevent something like the Civil Rights movement from happening again (the Civil Rights movement was largely organised out of 3rd places). So now, it's much more common to see communities without a real "center", whether they were built that way or because said center was torn down.
yeah and from what i see this city structure is still common in the north east/rust belt/new england etc... because they had a very similar development to what we have here in western europe
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but the south and ESPECIALLY the sun belt was colonised during the car era... and it fucking shows
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MisterStompy 8/30/2023 12:53 PM
A Bosniak friend of mine made this
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honestly i dont know if this place is strategic
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but if kosovo could let go of these municipalities they would be MUCH better off
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but the south and ESPECIALLY the sun belt was colonised during the car era... and it fucking shows
DevilTheAutopoet 8/30/2023 1:01 PM
Certainly urban areas in the south. You see a lot of smaller towns and whatnot in the south that definitely seem to have been built around... something. But that something is often no longer there, or has been replaced by a supermarket or high school football field or whatever.
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joe hill’s revenge 8/30/2023 2:39 PM
I think that this is a very informative report about what’s going on at one Florida liberal arts school. Desantis Allie’s took it over and they are changing it. Might be a good video to watch in voivcr chat sometime
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MisterStompy 8/30/2023 4:26 PM
Okay so I finished looking into this Current Affairs piece that tries to claim Matthew Shepard wasn't murdered for being gay, and it just reaffirms one of the main reasons I stopped being a radical leftist. Now obviously this isn't the case with some of the more - we'll say "passionate" - people here, but FAR too many socialists and whatnot have this absolutely braindead and naive belief that inside every violent bigot is a working class comerade, and all it takes is a little class conciousness to bring it out.
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So when shit like the Matthew Shepard lynching happens, an uncomfortably large amount of lefties will say "well no it wasn't a hate crime, it was economic anxiety and a drug deal gone wrong"
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I remember some dumb commie fuck on Twitter tried to say the Q Club shooting was the direct result of capitalism, and capitalism is what stressed out the shooter and made him homophobic and transphobic.
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And then you get the Chapo Traphouse dickheads trying to argue that if we had universal healthcare then the Proud Boys would stop beating the shit out of trans people, etc.
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This is the mindset of middle class priveleged fuckheads who grew up in deep blue states. They're usually white and straight and have never encountered a Neo Nazi or a Proud Boy or an Aryan Knight or whatever. (edited)
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These well off Maine socialists or wherever they're from need to pull their fucking heads out of their asses. Fascists are NOT your friends. They want you dead. You genuinely think all it takes is a quick browse through Das Kapital or some shit and then they'll slap their forehead and go "oh, so it WASN'T Jews and black people making my life miserable?" (edited)
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THAT ISN'T HOW IT FUCKING WORKS
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They KNOW that voting for far right politicians rarely if ever directly benefits them. They aren't looking to improve their own lives, they're looking to ruin somebody else's.
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So until I see the idiots from the Red Scare podcast standing side by side with me while I'm trading blows with a Hammerskin, I don't wanna hear another goddamn word about "economic anxiety".
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And they have the fucking gall to say that liberals coddle fascists.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/30/2023 4:35 PM
Damn if that is radical leftism then Idfk what I am but yeah, I get the point you're trying to make, these people just seem like piker-ists to me or that dude protesting capitalism while standing on a supercar in an add i saw once in GTAV
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This is the mindset of middle class priveleged fuckheads who grew up in deep blue states. They're usually white and straight and have never encountered a Neo Nazi or a Proud Boy or an Aryan Knight or whatever. (edited)
AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/30/2023 4:36 PM
I gotta say, considering the criteria I ended up somewhere good
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Prolly thanks to my moms parenting
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MisterStompy 8/30/2023 4:38 PM
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Okay so I finished looking into this Current Affairs piece that tries to claim Matthew Shepard wasn't murdered for being gay, and it just reaffirms one of the main reasons I stopped being a radical leftist. Now obviously this isn't the case with some of the more - we'll say "passionate" - people here, but FAR too many socialists and whatnot have this absolutely braindead and naive belief that inside every violent bigot is a working class comerade, and all it takes is a little class conciousness to bring it out.
DevilTheAutopoet 8/30/2023 5:45 PM
I think too many of the leftists you interact with are ML's. Likely white ML's from either the northeast or northern midwest. Cause I gotta tell you, I've not seen any of these tendencies amongst the leftists I interact with on a regular basis. Nor do I see the sort of mindset displayed in this current affairs article typically displayed in radical media, or at least certainly not the type of radical media I tend towards (Crimethinc, Dissent, IGD, CounterPunch, etc.). Maybe in more Marxist leaning rags like Jacobin or New Left Review, but I wouldn't really know since I don't read those much. (edited)
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I think too many of the leftists you interact with are ML's. Likely white ML's from either the northeast or northern midwest. Cause I gotta tell you, I've not seen any of these tendencies amongst the leftists I interact with on a regular basis. Nor do I see the sort of mindset displayed in this current affairs article typically displayed in radical media, or at least certainly not the type of radical media I tend towards (Crimethinc, Dissent, IGD, CounterPunch, etc.). Maybe in more Marxist leaning rags like Jacobin or New Left Review, but I wouldn't really know since I don't read those much. (edited)
MisterStompy 8/30/2023 5:45 PM
Jacobin is another offender in this regard. idk about New Left Review
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Jacobin is another offender in this regard. idk about New Left Review
DevilTheAutopoet 8/30/2023 5:50 PM
Jacobin is a weird rag man. Combination of RadLib, Marxist (especially Trotskyist and Kautskyist), Utopian Socialist, and Democratic Socialist sentiment. Which unfortunately is representative of the leanings of a substantial portion of the American left that exists in the regions I mentioned. But it comes across as very bizarre, out of place, and tone-deaf to nearly all leftists from outside of those regions.
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Michael Harrington fucked the American left.
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/30/2023 6:09 PM
From what I've seen, the further north and east you go in the US, the more Trotskyist, Kautskyist, and Utopian influence you see amongst the left. The further south and west you go, the more Anarchist, Syndicalist, Guevarist, and, kinda weirdly, Maoist influence you start to see.
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Also, in the north and east the Christian left is Protestant, while in the South and West the Christian left is usually Catholic.
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With the general sort of shift, this shows they don't think of their own politics as political while anything that they don't like is political window dressing. They also view colleges as places that make money through athletics.
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These well off Maine socialists or wherever they're from need to pull their fucking heads out of their asses. Fascists are NOT your friends. They want you dead. You genuinely think all it takes is a quick browse through Das Kapital or some shit and then they'll slap their forehead and go "oh, so it WASN'T Jews and black people making my life miserable?" (edited)
Well yeah that's one of the reasons that, while I'm sympathetic to their cause I don't consider myself an anarchist Even if you start with the idea that your ideal society will remove all "material crimes" (theft and so on), there will always be other crimes, such as crimes of passion (due to cheating,...) or just other reasons that you will need a law enforcement for. I doubt an anarchist society will somehow fix DUIs, so you'd need a group of people to patrol the roads for exemple. Now, of course any serious anarchist I've come across have typically told me they still want a law enforcement, they just want it to be extremely accountable to the people, so I don't think this is unsolvable at all. However I do think that people, in general, are very easy to fear monger, easily swayed by populist rethoric, and so on. So even in an ideal society i believe you will always have ambitious individuals rallying a crowd behind them using any ideology they might use to get to power, and I think that it's one of the main danger to any society. Don't take it as an argument against democracy, but sometimes it's just way too easy to brainwash people. And it is my opinion that societal change will always continue and that people will always be fairly naturally resistant to it, now I don't think most people are bigot I just think a lot of people are resistant to change and that it can be used for populist rethoric.
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So I still think that overall you would need ways to be able to oppose that. As you put it better than I could, fascists won't have an epiphany just because they read Das Kapital, so I think fighting against this kind of people will just be somewhat of an eternal struggle. Now I know anarchists often have solutions for those as well, mostly that they don't actually want to have no central institutions because sometimes you need it for policies affecting a lot of people (such as infrastructure, health,...) but I've never found them super convincing or appealing hence why I mostly consider myself democratic libertarian socialist
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Well yeah that's one of the reasons that, while I'm sympathetic to their cause I don't consider myself an anarchist Even if you start with the idea that your ideal society will remove all "material crimes" (theft and so on), there will always be other crimes, such as crimes of passion (due to cheating,...) or just other reasons that you will need a law enforcement for. I doubt an anarchist society will somehow fix DUIs, so you'd need a group of people to patrol the roads for exemple. Now, of course any serious anarchist I've come across have typically told me they still want a law enforcement, they just want it to be extremely accountable to the people, so I don't think this is unsolvable at all. However I do think that people, in general, are very easy to fear monger, easily swayed by populist rethoric, and so on. So even in an ideal society i believe you will always have ambitious individuals rallying a crowd behind them using any ideology they might use to get to power, and I think that it's one of the main danger to any society. Don't take it as an argument against democracy, but sometimes it's just way too easy to brainwash people. And it is my opinion that societal change will always continue and that people will always be fairly naturally resistant to it, now I don't think most people are bigot I just think a lot of people are resistant to change and that it can be used for populist rethoric.
DevilTheAutopoet 8/31/2023 12:45 PM
The thing is... yes people might do that. But it wouldn't matter. Same as how someone attempting to become an aristocrat/warlord in contemporary American society would have no luck in doing so and being seen as legitimate. Even they have the sorts of bloodlines and connections that would've allowed for it back in the day, there simply doesn't exist a systemic mechanism for them to lay claim to that sort of power and title. That's quite simply not how our society works anymore. It would be a similar thing in a libertarian socialist society. The systems in place would be specifically designed to disincentivize people from legitimising or accepting the acquisition of power by individuals, and to not provide a pathway for anyone to acquire systemic power. This is the benefit of the structural analysis of power anarchism as a framework is built on. It allows for the construction of systems designed to maximize horizontality and minimize the possibility of the various issues of statist power politics. Someone could declare themselves king all they want, and perhaps even garner some followers, but there'd be no mechanism for them to attain any actual systemic power unless they successfully wage a violent counterrevolution. This is why there's never been an anarchist project that collapsed from within. In every case where an anarchist project fell, it was due to invasion by an external force, usually fascist or tankie or both.
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The thing is... yes people might do that. But it wouldn't matter. Same as how someone attempting to become an aristocrat/warlord in contemporary American society would have no luck in doing so and being seen as legitimate. Even they have the sorts of bloodlines and connections that would've allowed for it back in the day, there simply doesn't exist a systemic mechanism for them to lay claim to that sort of power and title. That's quite simply not how our society works anymore. It would be a similar thing in a libertarian socialist society. The systems in place would be specifically designed to disincentivize people from legitimising or accepting the acquisition of power by individuals, and to not provide a pathway for anyone to acquire systemic power. This is the benefit of the structural analysis of power anarchism as a framework is built on. It allows for the construction of systems designed to maximize horizontality and minimize the possibility of the various issues of statist power politics. Someone could declare themselves king all they want, and perhaps even garner some followers, but there'd be no mechanism for them to attain any actual systemic power unless they successfully wage a violent counterrevolution. This is why there's never been an anarchist project that collapsed from within. In every case where an anarchist project fell, it was due to invasion by an external force, usually fascist or tankie or both.
I agree with the last part, but the
The systems in place would be specifically designed to disincentivize people from legitimising or accepting the acquisition of power by individuals, and to not provide a pathway for anyone to acquire systemic power.
my problem with this line of thinking which is common in left wing current is "my ideal society can do that and will fix X cause therefore X problem wouldn't exist anymore", and I'm not gonna say it's naïve but it's simply dangerous. My line of thinking is to always have a society ready for whatever might come. As for the comparison to feudalism I think it's not a pertinent comparison. We're past the age of feudalism not just because the power dynamics don't exist anymore, it's just that ideologies made them irrelevant. As far as I know, anarchism is also an ideology. This is why I mention societal change: societies, cultures, etc... will keep changing forever, they always have and I see no reason why it should ever stop. I don't think anyone here could predict what societal issue will be the topic of the day in 50 years let alone a century - I think most people of the 1920s didn't think transgender people would be a societal topic for exemple. And I believe that ill-meaning individuals will always try to take advantage of these topics for personnal gain, because even if you manage to make 99% of people to be completely disinterested in taking power for themselves, there will always be amibitious leaders. You might only need some idiot reading a book about Rome and be like "I wanna be like this guy Ceasar!". Grossly oversimplifying of course, but I heavily doubt that we will ever, in any situation, somehow get rid of amibitious, power-hungry people trying to brainwash a mob to get them what they want
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And even outside of such radical, backwards idea, people will just simply often disagree on many policy topics - I'm sure there would be many ways to mitigate the damage these disagreements might cause, and it's exactly why democracies fare better than dictatorship because its exactly the problem they're made to solve, but I don't quite believe these ideological conflicts will ever disappear
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Also, and I promise I stop the wall of text there lol, it's assuming the entire world subscribe to the same ideology, because otherwise foreign agents will absolutely sow the seeds of chaos. Iran is a favourite exemple of mine - fucked up homegrown islamists replaced the fucked up monarchy installed by the US/UK, and then proceeded to pretty much send the whole middle east back to warring religious states along with their favourite frenemies Saudi Arabia. Not all of that can be solely blamed to the west, the middle east as a whole took a massive step back, and its not the only region to have suffered such a fate
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I agree with the last part, but the
The systems in place would be specifically designed to disincentivize people from legitimising or accepting the acquisition of power by individuals, and to not provide a pathway for anyone to acquire systemic power.
my problem with this line of thinking which is common in left wing current is "my ideal society can do that and will fix X cause therefore X problem wouldn't exist anymore", and I'm not gonna say it's naïve but it's simply dangerous. My line of thinking is to always have a society ready for whatever might come. As for the comparison to feudalism I think it's not a pertinent comparison. We're past the age of feudalism not just because the power dynamics don't exist anymore, it's just that ideologies made them irrelevant. As far as I know, anarchism is also an ideology. This is why I mention societal change: societies, cultures, etc... will keep changing forever, they always have and I see no reason why it should ever stop. I don't think anyone here could predict what societal issue will be the topic of the day in 50 years let alone a century - I think most people of the 1920s didn't think transgender people would be a societal topic for exemple. And I believe that ill-meaning individuals will always try to take advantage of these topics for personnal gain, because even if you manage to make 99% of people to be completely disinterested in taking power for themselves, there will always be amibitious leaders. You might only need some idiot reading a book about Rome and be like "I wanna be like this guy Ceasar!". Grossly oversimplifying of course, but I heavily doubt that we will ever, in any situation, somehow get rid of amibitious, power-hungry people trying to brainwash a mob to get them what they want
DevilTheAutopoet 8/31/2023 1:14 PM
The reason that it's common in left wing currents is because the left is vastly more consistently analytical of behaviour and social structure than the right, who rather more often operate on abstract value judgements and dogma. The reason we're past feudalism isn't because of ideology. That's putting the chicken before the egg. Material conditions evolved such that feudalism was no longer viable or desirable as a system. That's what lead to the process of enclosure and the growing role of merchants and traders in European society, which is what in turn led to ideological discussion regarding whether or not these changes were just. It was ongoing societal changes that led to the Enlightenment. Those ideas then fed back into it in the form of people looking to either accelerate or decelerate or reverse these changes, but placing ideology as the driving factor is ahistorical and unrealistic. To that end, determining that anarchism is an "ideology" really depends on how broadly you wanna define that term. Anarchism is a framework of analysis that examines the consequences of social power structures and hierarchical organisation. As a result of this analysis, anarchists generally promote libertarian socialism as a method of organization that would yield more desirable results to a greater amount of people. It's not based on dogma or assertions about some idealistic moral system or vague abstract principles like most things that would be called "ideology". As far as the rest of your response, again this is just a misunderstanding of how reality moves, and also of what anarchism is and assets. Ideas don't drive history. Material conditions drive systemic shifts, which in turn drives dialogue, which results in idea shifts used to either justify or challenge these shifts. That said, Anarchism is not Marxism, and unlike Marxists, Anarchists don't believe that history is linear nor do they believe in an "end of history". Yes, people will continue to disagree. Yes, there will be fighting. Yes, no society is perfect. None of those are things anarchists disagree with. What anarchists contend is that by designing systems based on horizontality, it becomes possible for people to generally address these disagreements inuch more desirable and less coercive ways than is possible through statist politics, and that this in turn can yield systems that are generally more sustainable even in the wake of shifting material conditions, albeit adaptation and evolution of human society will of course persist. In fact most anarchists would argue that what they seek is actually a broadening of human politics, not a narrowing of it. As Graeber rather beautifully pointed out in Dawn of Everything, the potential mechanisms of human organisation actually become much more adaptable and diverse when they're not constrained by the bounds of statist politics.
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Interesting See that's always something I like with most anarchists I've had the chance to discuss with is that they're very open minded and open to discussions, as well as being very pragmatic and not just purely dogmatic (unlike most marxists ive met...) so let me start by thanking you for that And well yeah I'm aware material conditions drive history, I was just mostly meaning a big reason why they're not acceptable anymore is that ideologies made it non viable. Of course I may be wrong in that as you point out but I believe that ideals of governance will always be a contentious topic All I was mostly meaning is that: even if you fix the root causes of a problem, problems won't necessarily go away and they will definelty not go away quickly. If nothing else for the inertia most people have in their habits. And during these transitional years, a society is always pretty vulnerable. Of course MLs always use that as an argument to justify the warcrimes of their favorite dictatorship which is beyond stupid, but I nevertheless do think that a society must be very ready to face threats, be they from within (ambitious populist assholes) or, more importantly, from the outside. Overall, if there should be a revolution leading to an anarchist society where I live I would absolutely support them. It's a society ideal I wholeheartedly support. I'm just saying I'm not totally convinced about its stability without making some compromises in the way it works, but nevertheless it's something I don't oppose, simply something I'd like to help make resilient to threats if that makes sense.
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MisterStompy 8/31/2023 1:27 PM
COMRADE BIDEN UNITES THE PROLETARIAT or something idk, I just think it's funny because commies really like Lula even though I'm fairly certain he's just a demsoc at this point https://twitter.com/apagliar/status/1696727375743008871 (edited)
"It's the first time I deal with a [US] president who is interested in workers. His policies and speeches about the world of labor are like music to my ears, and together we can inspire other leaders to look at workers' issues." – Lula on Biden, 8/16/23 https://t.co/1pru3xhqRx
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And well, yeah of course there won't ever be a "end of history" unlike what a lot of Marxists seem to profess For all its flaws I like that some founding fathers had this line of thinking, with the whole "rewrite the consitituon regularly". But well, despite their intent that did not materialize so it's also something to learn from.
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COMRADE BIDEN UNITES THE PROLETARIAT or something idk, I just think it's funny because commies really like Lula even though I'm fairly certain he's just a demsoc at this point https://twitter.com/apagliar/status/1696727375743008871 (edited)
Well Lula is pretty much a demsoc
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Well Lula is pretty much a demsoc
MisterStompy 8/31/2023 1:28 PM
He used to be involved in communist groups, iirc
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Lots of demsoc started this way ahah
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Commies mostly like him because sometimes he opposes the US on some stuff
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But at the end of the day he often proves himself to be pragmatic and avoid his country being associated to one camp or another, so I think he does that pretty well
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MisterStompy 8/31/2023 1:29 PM
Yeah I don't like how he's been bending over for Putin
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Not full on fellating him to be fair, but he's gone out of his way to "both sides" the issue
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Yeah I don't like how he's been bending over for Putin
Well he hasn't been too much, as i said its mostly about balancing their position on the global stage and also a lot of understandable distrust of the US
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They did offer to investigate the prigozhin crash for exemple- of course Russia refused
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MisterStompy 8/31/2023 1:34 PM
I just hope Brazil sends an expeditionary force to march side by side with NATO troops in red square at some point
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like in WW2
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That would be unfathomably based of course
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Interesting See that's always something I like with most anarchists I've had the chance to discuss with is that they're very open minded and open to discussions, as well as being very pragmatic and not just purely dogmatic (unlike most marxists ive met...) so let me start by thanking you for that And well yeah I'm aware material conditions drive history, I was just mostly meaning a big reason why they're not acceptable anymore is that ideologies made it non viable. Of course I may be wrong in that as you point out but I believe that ideals of governance will always be a contentious topic All I was mostly meaning is that: even if you fix the root causes of a problem, problems won't necessarily go away and they will definelty not go away quickly. If nothing else for the inertia most people have in their habits. And during these transitional years, a society is always pretty vulnerable. Of course MLs always use that as an argument to justify the warcrimes of their favorite dictatorship which is beyond stupid, but I nevertheless do think that a society must be very ready to face threats, be they from within (ambitious populist assholes) or, more importantly, from the outside. Overall, if there should be a revolution leading to an anarchist society where I live I would absolutely support them. It's a society ideal I wholeheartedly support. I'm just saying I'm not totally convinced about its stability without making some compromises in the way it works, but nevertheless it's something I don't oppose, simply something I'd like to help make resilient to threats if that makes sense.
DevilTheAutopoet 8/31/2023 1:54 PM
That's fair. Sorry if I came across as overly aggressive. And yeah, I get the point that you're making. One last point of contention though, at the risk of being pedantic. Many people use the terms "Libertarian Socialism" and "Anarchism" as synonyms, but this dilutes the utility of them as distinct terms. It's more useful to say that Anarchism is a theoretical framework of analysis based on structural critique of power dynamics, while Libertarian Socialism is a model of society one might seek to bring about. To that end, while virtually all Anarchists are Libertarian Socialists, not all Libertarian Socialists are Anarchists. Some are Marxists, some are Democratic Socialists, some are Utopians, some are Left-Populists, some are even just Radical Liberals who see Libertarian Socialism as the ultimate manifestation of liberal ideals and values. So this is why I blanche a little when people talk about "Anarchist societies", as it eliminates some of the nuance of the terms.
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That's fair. Sorry if I came across as overly aggressive. And yeah, I get the point that you're making. One last point of contention though, at the risk of being pedantic. Many people use the terms "Libertarian Socialism" and "Anarchism" as synonyms, but this dilutes the utility of them as distinct terms. It's more useful to say that Anarchism is a theoretical framework of analysis based on structural critique of power dynamics, while Libertarian Socialism is a model of society one might seek to bring about. To that end, while virtually all Anarchists are Libertarian Socialists, not all Libertarian Socialists are Anarchists. Some are Marxists, some are Democratic Socialists, some are Utopians, some are Left-Populists, some are even just Radical Liberals who see Libertarian Socialism as the ultimate manifestation of liberal ideals and values. So this is why I blanche a little when people talk about "Anarchist societies", as it eliminates some of the nuance of the terms.
DevilTheAutopoet 8/31/2023 1:59 PM
It's kinda like the distinction of Democratic Socialists vs Social Democrats. Almost all Democratic Socialists are Social Democrats, but the inverse is not true. Many Social Democrats are Liberals who view Social Democracy as the best and most sustainable form of Liberal Capitalism, whilst Democratic Socialists see Social Democracy as a stepping stone on the way to actual Socialism.
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That's fair. Sorry if I came across as overly aggressive. And yeah, I get the point that you're making. One last point of contention though, at the risk of being pedantic. Many people use the terms "Libertarian Socialism" and "Anarchism" as synonyms, but this dilutes the utility of them as distinct terms. It's more useful to say that Anarchism is a theoretical framework of analysis based on structural critique of power dynamics, while Libertarian Socialism is a model of society one might seek to bring about. To that end, while virtually all Anarchists are Libertarian Socialists, not all Libertarian Socialists are Anarchists. Some are Marxists, some are Democratic Socialists, some are Utopians, some are Left-Populists, some are even just Radical Liberals who see Libertarian Socialism as the ultimate manifestation of liberal ideals and values. So this is why I blanche a little when people talk about "Anarchist societies", as it eliminates some of the nuance of the terms.
don't worry that did not come out this way to me, quite the opposite actually yeah its an important nuance you're right
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MisterStompy 8/31/2023 2:59 PM
After a judge ruled against him in his criminal contempt case, former Trump advisor Peter Navarro attempts to snatch a "Trump lost" sign from a protester at his press conference.
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joe hill’s revenge 8/31/2023 4:14 PM
The "Kids Online Safety Act" (KOSA) is a bill that was introduced to the United States Senate in February 2022 and reintroduced in May 2023; the bill "sets out requirements" to protect minors from harm on social media platforms. The bill charges individual state attorneys general with enforcing the bill. The bill has been criticized by civil rig...
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Opinions on the online kids safety act?
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The "Kids Online Safety Act" (KOSA) is a bill that was introduced to the United States Senate in February 2022 and reintroduced in May 2023; the bill "sets out requirements" to protect minors from harm on social media platforms. The bill charges individual state attorneys general with enforcing the bill. The bill has been criticized by civil rights organizations for potentially enabling censorship of material important to marginalized groups.
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The conservative think tank The Heritage Foundation has written that the initial 2022 iteration of KOSA doesn't go far enough, as the bill doesn't explicitly list transgender healthcare as a harm. The inclusion of the phrase "consistent with evidence-informed medical information" could be used by attorneys general to cherry-pick anti-trans sources as justification, since there is no definition of what "evidence-based medical information" can include. Senator Blackburn, co-author of the bill, has argued that some education about racism and the civil rights movement overlaps with critical race theory, which she labels a "dangerous ideology" that can inflict "mental and emotional damage" upon children.
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DevilTheAutopoet 8/31/2023 5:13 PM
Do you really need to ask?
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joe hill’s revenge 8/31/2023 9:40 PM
I’m asking cause I think we might want to join the opposition to the bill
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BubsyFanboy 9/1/2023 1:26 PM
A leak of Libertarian Party leadership communications reveals crude remarks – including a talking point from anti-LGBTQ+ conspiracy theories and discussions of the Colorado Libertarian Party’s collaboration with the GOP – and raises questions about the party’s adherence to Federal Election Commission rules.
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joe hill’s revenge 9/1/2023 6:38 PM
Trial balloon for the next far right offensive
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tldr police cannot arrest organizers of a pride event in Tennessee
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tldr police cannot arrest organizers of a pride event in Tennessee
AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/2/2023 1:06 PM
YYYYEESSSSS
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MisterStompy 9/2/2023 1:06 PM
conservatives when they find out that the 1st amendment protects more than just their right to scream racial slurs at children while driving past a school zone
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/2/2023 1:11 PM
lmao
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tldr police cannot arrest organizers of a pride event in Tennessee
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Ok but good news tho
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“White power” chants from members of the ‘Blood Tribe’ and ‘Goyim Defense League’, out holding flags with swastikas in Altamonte Springs, Florida this afternoon
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Stolas_of_the_Stars 9/2/2023 10:33 PM
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 9/2/2023 10:34 PM
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Didn't these fucks also try shit near Disneyworld entrance?
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the car one
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not the gate
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BubsyFanboy 9/3/2023 7:28 AM
🚨 | NEW: A number of Tory MPs have now submitted fresh letters of no confidence in Rishi Sunak "It just feels like we have completely lost control, the country is falling apart. Nobody really believes the PM can win the election anymore.” [@DavidPBMaddox]
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there are rumors in armenia that azerbaijan might start a new offensive against artsakh
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there have been clashes here and there for quite a while but now artsakh has been blockaded for months and tensions seems to be escalating, with artsakh PM resigning like 2 days ago
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MisterStompy 9/3/2023 10:28 AM
The US says it will support Vietnam with technology, know-how, and capital to turn the country into an economic powerhouse and a semiconductor hub - a key manufacturing node in the global supply chains.
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AMERICA WINS AGAIN
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I mean yes
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I mentioned it before in #ukraine-russia-war but Vietnam trusts China so little that they are willing to ally with the same country that bombed them with Agent Orange and Napalm
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And become staunch allies at that Just...let that sink it
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MisterStompy 9/3/2023 1:18 PM
The only way to stop this is to beat the shit out of them until they’re on the edge of their life. No more tolerating them.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/3/2023 1:20 PM
AMEN
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CAN I HAVE A HALLELUJAH
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MisterStompy 9/3/2023 6:26 PM
There isn't a single thing DeSantis has done that wasn't constitutional ever since he took office.
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no, but to be fair, this is a blow to Florida gop
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Oh look, a MAGA schoolboard needing the Temecula treatment
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(this is in Cincinnati area)
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This reminds me of that one ghenshin impact mural that the magats destroyed.
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I'm sorry what?
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MisterStompy 9/4/2023 5:47 PM
"all billionaires are evil" mfs when I tell them about Mark Cuban
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Can't wait until somebody calls him a shill for big pharma or something lmao
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MisterStompy 9/4/2023 6:07 PM
oh shit
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/4/2023 6:34 PM
Can anyone confirm
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𝔉𝔞𝔯𝔞𝔡𝔞𝔶 9/4/2023 6:35 PM
Yeah florida sucks
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Miami is the worst part
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"all billionaires are evil" mfs when I tell them about Mark Cuban
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 9/4/2023 9:35 PM
The exception that proves the rule. An exception that also happens to be a crypto shill and an Ayn Rand fan.
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Remember, if billionaires actually cared, they would not be billionaires.
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all billionaires are evil
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death to america('s corrupt and evil government that is controlled by billionaires and oppresses black people, trans people, indigenous people, and arabs, but not death to the average person or American culture) (edited)
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the american people themselves are victims of the ruling class, the ruling class and its evil actions do not reflect the average american
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/5/2023 6:47 AM
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I'm an anarchist and I'm not that filled with hatred
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Can anyone confirm
Florida is garbage, Miami is being taken over by Cuban republicans that are afraid of Democrats because they're being told it's communism, Orlando is barely able to stay blue because of USF, but it's changing. Tampa goes back and forth, Jacksonville, Tallahassee, and Gainesville are purple because the surrounding areas are all red.
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Can anyone confirm
I love Florida on a special level. Love the Everglades, the beaches, the keys. It’s my home, but even despite my deep love for Florida I got to admit it’s shit for most people and the politicians that run the place are some of the worst in the whole country, it makes me really sad to see and to admit but yeah it’s a shit hole and no one should move here or go to school here
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Can anyone confirm
BubsyFanboy 9/5/2023 8:56 AM
There are certainly a lot of social issues there
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/5/2023 10:04 AM
understatement of the century
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BubsyFanboy 9/5/2023 10:42 AM
"We will not stop" until Johan Floderus is freed, Josep Borell said on Tuesday, confirming the identity of the Swedish national held prisoner in Iran. #EuropeNews
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they've held a belgian journalist working with NGOs for months and he only got released recently, and he had been sentenced to like 74 lashes
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talking of belgium i think we have the dumbest political scandal ever
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talking of belgium i think we have the dumbest political scandal ever
AvoidOblivion 9/5/2023 4:36 PM
Dumber than a US President getting flak for wearing a tan suit?
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during a birthday party, the liberal interior minister had a few friends who went outside to pee on a police van
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multiple parties (mostly far right) are now asking for him to step down because of that
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im so confused lmao
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AvoidOblivion 9/5/2023 4:37 PM
That's just funny. He gave the van the shower it deserved.
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i know right
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it wasnt even him, it was his friends
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during a birthday party, the liberal interior minister had a few friends who went outside to pee on a police van
Man should has told them to Piss off.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/5/2023 5:44 PM
Explore this post and more from the tankiejerk community
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Kraut isn't always right but this account is, as far as I know, accurate
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TLDR: the French police has a lot of heritage from the Vichy police and the people responsible of jews deportations during the war often ended up being police officers after the war, infamously Papon in particular
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and it's not exclusive to France, it's also the case for exemple in Greece
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or Germany with former stasi officers
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TLDR: the French police has a lot of heritage from the Vichy police and the people responsible of jews deportations during the war often ended up being police officers after the war, infamously Papon in particular
That explains the inexplicably violent rage French protesters have quite a bit. Also speaking of cops, reminder Germany has it basically cops can be spied on by their own government because too many simps for fascism tend to flock there. And they have purged them before.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/5/2023 8:31 PM
Part of the wall running through China's Shanxi province was dug open, causing severe damage.
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Mainland China construction workers are something else i swear to god
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I'm an anarchist and I'm not that filled with hatred
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i mean i do hate the ruling class and the american state
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the state is not the nation however
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/5/2023 8:58 PM
Alright then, fair
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/5/2023 8:58 PM
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I yield
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the state is not the nation however
and well i should say country instead of nation
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the country is all the land governed by the american state, and there is a lot of cultural differences between different areas of the us
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most countries are really several nations in a trench coat
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I yield
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/5/2023 9:02 PM
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BubsyFanboy 9/6/2023 4:24 AM
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what a fucking shame how history repeats itself
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TLDR: prime minister uses the potato famine to repeal the corn laws, which was a protectionnist law to forbid the import of cheap american crops, arguing the cheaper food would help feed the irish because of that, the issue of famine in ireland becomes a partisan issue, and the pro-corn laws start to dismiss the famine in ireland as exaggerated then a report comes in that "only 40% of crops died instead of the projected 80%" so its seen as a non-issue, and eventually the food shipments are cancelled
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Any ressemblance to the covid (the video is a year older than covid btw) is purely fortuitous right...
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"see, the virus is not that deadly, now repeal the mandates for the sake of the economy" and so on...
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The famine is one of the reasons the Irish has such bad beef with the Brits historically so that checks out (edited)
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common EU W
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BubsyFanboy 9/6/2023 1:20 PM
A top court ordered an alternative framework to same-sex marriage to be formulated within two years.
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joe hill’s revenge 9/6/2023 8:00 PM
It is now targeting full-year adjusted earnings, before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization, of $10.5 billion to $11 billion, down by $500 million.
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Good
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MisterStompy 9/6/2023 11:57 PM
US Army soldiers during subterranean warfare exercises
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/7/2023 12:09 AM
MY ASS IS HEAVY
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 9/7/2023 8:11 AM
FREEMAN
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echo chamber moment lol
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Tbh the hardest supporters for Ukraine imo have been blacks and Mexicans Russia spreading misinformation against Mexicans especially likely earn the ire of a few of them at least
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Seriously the russocritical in Mexican and to a lesser extent other Hispanic circles has been fast (edited)
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Tbh the hardest supporters for Ukraine imo have been blacks and Mexicans Russia spreading misinformation against Mexicans especially likely earn the ire of a few of them at least
AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/7/2023 2:45 PM
i got a mexican friend, can confirm he is very pro ukraine
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Minor edit change: auto correct changed Russocritical to russophobic. Sorry about that
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/7/2023 2:46 PM
yeah thats a better word fof it
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i got a mexican friend, can confirm he is very pro ukraine
To be fair a core chunk of the Mexican and yes this includes the Mexican American experience too, has had beef with Russia due to Stalin's fuckery pissing off the Mexican communists post revolution
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But it's been open
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Minor edit change: auto correct changed Russocritical to russophobic. Sorry about that
AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/7/2023 2:48 PM
its important to note the latter is real and there are some genuinely hatefull people out there that have it out for Russians for the completely wrong reasons but these people are usually just horrible people already or chronically online people seeking attention through rage from normal people and so on, stuff like that
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Ye ye. Hence Russocritical
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/7/2023 2:48 PM
yeah, one thing is not liking the current political situation
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the others just being racist
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thats why i always say the CCP instead of China
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Ye
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Also, if you wanna get iffy about the Taiwan situation, Taiwan IS Chinese Possibly even a better claim to it then CCP China
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Ergo, China should be Taiwanese
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/7/2023 2:51 PM
lmao
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i mean...there were people that came before the Chinese who lived in Taiwan and yadiyadiyada colinization business happened but at the point we are now its not really worth it getting worked up over, its done and we can try to fix it
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That and CCP pulled a Japan and Korea They made two groups who have legit beef with each other bury the hatchet for the long term because fuck you CCP
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joe hill’s revenge 9/7/2023 3:06 PM
In an interview with The Associated Press, Fain left open the possibility of avoiding a strike. He acknowledged, more explicitly than he has before, that the union will have to give up some of its demands to reach agreements. Contracts with the three companies will all expire at 11:59 p.m. Sept. 14. https://apnews.com/article/auto-strike-gm-stellantis-ford-fain-uaw-d11dfb266ce962d1e3a4582d404ba27f#
The head of the United Auto Workers warned that the union plans to go on strike against any Detroit automaker that hasn’t reached a new agreement by the time contracts expire next week.
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MisterStompy 9/7/2023 3:21 PM
fucking hell
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/7/2023 3:22 PM
bro lost me at 'How Jewish is the war against russia'
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They're mad that Ukraine leader (he's Jewish) is fucking destroying Daddy Putin
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/7/2023 3:26 PM
lmao
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Elons a fascist and should get the fascist treatment
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right, so buried somewhere while the gov nationalizes starlink (which mind you, they should do already)
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(man fucked with Navy)
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(he's risking being found of a "Suicide" while somehow trapped in a suitcase)
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The special grand jury in Fulton County investigating the 2020 presidential election in Georgia recommended charges against Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and former GOP Sens. David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler of Georgia, according to the special counsel grand jury report released Friday.
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war very likely in armenia again
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this follows artsakh (armenian separatists in azerbaijan) holding a presidential election
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oh lord
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And that's a lawsuit
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Send this to the defamation league
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MisterStompy 9/9/2023 8:45 PM
BUT KYLE, WE HAVE TO LET THE REPUBLICANS WIN AND PUT ALL THE TRANS PEOPLE IN GAS CHAMBERS, KYLE, IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO LIBERATE ALL OF THE MINORITY GROUPS IN THE UNITED STATES, KYLE https://twitter.com/toronai22/status/1700269370294042976
When you're a nuanced leftist online, delivering fact after fact, and you encounter LARP:
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BUT KYLE, WE HAVE TO LET THE REPUBLICANS WIN AND PUT ALL THE TRANS PEOPLE IN GAS CHAMBERS, KYLE, IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO LIBERATE ALL OF THE MINORITY GROUPS IN THE UNITED STATES, KYLE https://twitter.com/toronai22/status/1700269370294042976
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 9/9/2023 9:19 PM
An example of LARP.
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MisterStompy 9/9/2023 9:19 PM
>China is a Marxist Leninist success
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 9/9/2023 9:22 PM
MLs try not to have delusions of grandeur challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
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MisterStompy 9/9/2023 9:30 PM
Each and every one of these people has purchased hammer and sickle stickers from Amazon https://twitter.com/KyleBrovloski00/status/1699600575183085934 (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/9/2023 9:37 PM
severe cringe
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/9/2023 9:59 PM
question, how do you guys feel about your own flag? i'm asking over different culture stuff
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/9/2023 10:06 PM
as for me, i've never seen a Panamanian flag being burned or destroyed by ourselves intentionally, hell, the only real results of a Panamanian flag getting damaged where the ones relating to the 9th of january, where during a students protest carried out by Panamanians, things got hostiles with the 'zoneitas' where they tore it in half, this lead to riots and some of the students being killed and the famous photo of the flag being raised in the canal zone
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hell we have a big flagstaff in mount Ancon, an area that used to be in the canal zone
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Each and every one of these people has purchased hammer and sickle stickers from Amazon https://twitter.com/KyleBrovloski00/status/1699600575183085934 (edited)
joe hill’s revenge 9/9/2023 11:07 PM
Who r any ov those
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/9/2023 11:25 PM
no clue, i don't interact with twitter people
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/10/2023 12:35 AM
Chaotic good
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chaotic evil
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simple as
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An example of LARP.
DevilTheAutopoet 9/10/2023 5:03 AM
"China has a nation." ...and...? So did the Nazis.
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MisterStompy 9/10/2023 10:37 AM
Shit man, maybe I should try going to college again. https://twitter.com/TheMindScourge/status/1700211010072883244
This picture from an NYT article on women outnumbering men on campus is just too good
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The NYT is like "there's four women for every man isn't that terrible?"
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Yeah that's... that's just... the worst...
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/10/2023 10:39 AM
you know
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in college
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the least horny place ever(jk)
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Nazis are too woke for these people now.
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joe hill’s revenge 9/10/2023 8:36 PM
New Walmart employees who join the digital or stocking teams now make about a dollar an hour less than they would have if hired several months ago.
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BubsyFanboy 9/11/2023 3:43 AM
BREAKING: The California Assembly just voted in favor of AB 957 which will require judges take into account whether a parent "affirms" a child's "gender identity or gender expression" in determining custody. The Senate already approved it so it's heading to Gavin Newsom's desk.
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@greg_price11 This bill is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. What it actually means is that if you disagree with the other parent about sterilizing your child, you lose custody. Utter madness!
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Shut up Elon
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/11/2023 9:06 AM
Ron Denazi at it again
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Ron Denazi at it again
wtf
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is this true?
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/11/2023 10:23 AM
Prolly, idk, someone shared the screenshot with me
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i don't use shwitter afterall
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i dont see any suchthing on his twitter account and nothing on news from google search
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as a meme i think its funny, but be careful because this is, imo, spreading fake news
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/11/2023 10:24 AM
Fair
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my bad
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its fine, everyone gets got once in a while
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theres a chance it may have happenned and got deleted, but i see no such thing at the moment
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Azerbaijan is making up false flags
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Armenian Prime Minister Pashinyan and Turkish President Erdogan had a telephone conversation regarding long-term peace and stability in the region. Ankara reiterated the terms of the Azerbaijani side to Yerevan.
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SCOREBOARD
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MisterStompy 9/11/2023 1:11 PM
I LOVE SOFT POWER. I LOVE FORMING POSITIVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH FORMER ENEMIES. I LOVE THE PEACEFUL COEXISTENCE OF ALL NATIONS ON EARTH.
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excellent. It means supportive parents can claim kidnapping if transphobic parents try shit. And more legal cover for preventing kidnapping laws which includes stand your ground
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just saying
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I LOVE SOFT POWER. I LOVE FORMING POSITIVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH FORMER ENEMIES. I LOVE THE PEACEFUL COEXISTENCE OF ALL NATIONS ON EARTH.
to be fair, Soft power is valid tactic. So is America owning its role in Vietnam's ratfuckery, apologize, and generally try to form a genuine allyship with the nation. China being a ratfucking dickweasel to Vietnam is just a nice bonus.
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joe hill’s revenge 9/11/2023 3:10 PM
“Surely the ADL is why I’m losing advertising.”
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TBH ADL ads are the worse fucking thing
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I report them every time I see it
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MisterStompy 9/11/2023 5:04 PM
I know where I'll be and what I'll be watching at 6:00 pm EASTERN time today! 💖 272
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"Black ethnonationalists aren't the enemy, Stompy, you just have internalized anti black racism" SHUT THE FUCK UP JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP
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joe hill’s revenge 9/11/2023 5:13 PM
Implying that David duke represents white people
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/11/2023 5:24 PM
WAIT I HAVE THE PERFECT PICTURE FOR THIS
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joe hill’s revenge 9/11/2023 5:24 PM
Niger says France is gathering troops, equipment in Senegal, Ivory Coast and Benin with a view to military intervention.
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Death to French imperialism up with national freedom (edited)
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/11/2023 5:24 PM
I can't find it
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it was a black and white picture of a black and white man holding up a sign that said "Whites and blacks against Jews" or something
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 9/11/2023 6:18 PM
Isn't ECOWAS backed by China? Gonna be fun watching the Russaboos and Chinaboos tear each other apart over this one.
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Death to French imperialism up with national freedom (edited)
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 9/11/2023 6:18 PM
"National freedom" through a military junta backed by Wagner?
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Fuck French imperialism but this ain't the way to do it.
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Hate to be the bearer of shit news, but the Coup is illegit and backed by Wagner and racists russian fuckheads chief. I don't like imperialsim in general, but the Coup is clearly a act of russian imperialism.
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Doctors who specialize in reproductive health care are being forced to move from red states that have strict abortion bans. In many states, this exodus has worsened what was already a reproductive healthcare crisis. Dr. Leilah Zahedi-Spung was a maternal-fetal specialist in Tennessee. She chose to relocate to Colorado after the Dobbs decision. S...
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Where doctors go, others will follow.
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yup
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/12/2023 8:31 PM
I FUCKING FOUND IT
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AFTER LOOKING EVERYWHERE I FOUND IT
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MisterStompy 9/12/2023 8:32 PM
fucking hell that's cursed
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MisterStompy 9/12/2023 9:13 PM
Bro we NEED more democrats that are like this https://twitter.com/lizbrownkaiser/status/1701630833398821106
.@SenFettermanPA reacts to Speaker McCarthy moving forward with a House impeachment inquiry into POTUS… (Just watch)
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Seriously, democrats need to be assholes
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Seriously, democrats need to be assholes
The democrats do need to stop clutching their pearls every time the republicans do something loud and noisy but pointless.
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Click to see attachment 🖼️
No matter what group or time in history there will always be people from oppressed groups joining the oppresser against another, "new" group to oppress in hope of being treated as equals
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Something something logcabin, something something gay terfs, and so on
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Bro we NEED more democrats that are like this https://twitter.com/lizbrownkaiser/status/1701630833398821106
Holy shit what a legend
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/13/2023 10:18 AM
A Saudi court has sentenced a man to death based solely on his Twitter and YouTube activity.
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MisterStompy 9/13/2023 11:04 AM
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/13/2023 11:11 AM
Lmao
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 9/13/2023 12:37 PM
Tommy Tuberville aims to block policy offering aid to service members and dependents forced to travel for abortions
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MisterStompy 9/13/2023 5:53 PM
look at ye, postin cringe
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/13/2023 5:53 PM
how about no, and how about you drop that flag off you larper
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MisterStompy 9/13/2023 5:56 PM
best part is apparently the dude lives in Kuwait
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/13/2023 5:56 PM
BRO 💀
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MisterStompy 9/13/2023 6:00 PM
Kuwaiti Baathism, my favorite neurodivergence
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MisterStompy
look at ye, postin cringe
DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 9/13/2023 6:08 PM
S-saddam wasn’t even a fascist?????
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/13/2023 6:09 PM
dictator=fascist
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA]
S-saddam wasn’t even a fascist?????
MisterStompy 9/13/2023 6:25 PM
third positionist, yes, but him being a fascist is highly debateable
6:27 PM
When you get down to brass tacks, describing Ba'athism as an Arab form of Strasserist Nazism is far more accurate than calling it "fascism"
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MisterStompy
look at ye, postin cringe
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 9/13/2023 8:11 PM
That Trudeau on the bottom right?
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I think that's Mosely
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MisterStompy 9/13/2023 8:13 PM
It's neither, it's a Romanian fascist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corneliu_Zelea_Codreanu
Corneliu Zelea Codreanu (Romanian: [korˈneliu ˈzele̯a koˈdre̯anu] ; born Corneliu Codreanu, according to his birth certificate; 13 September 1899 – 30 November 1938) was a Romanian politician of the far right, the founder and charismatic leader of the Iron Guard or The Legion of the Archangel Michael (also known as the Legionary Movement), an ul...
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Ah, thanks Stompy
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MisterStompy
When you get down to brass tacks, describing Ba'athism as an Arab form of Strasserist Nazism is far more accurate than calling it "fascism"
Strasserism is a type of fascism tho
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Strasserism is a type of fascism tho
MisterStompy 9/13/2023 9:15 PM
some would argue it's too socialist to be fascist but you're not really wrong
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I mean not all fascists are opposed to socialist policies
9:16 PM
There are some people I've met who are okay with people getting welfare as long as POC don't get it
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Sedna
There are some people I've met who are okay with people getting welfare as long as POC don't get it
MisterStompy 9/13/2023 9:24 PM
Tucker Carlson basically said he'd like that word for word once
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Looks like Armenia is gambling on western support to make Azerbaijan stand down
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Tbh I welcome the future fucking over of Russia considering the damage Russia has done imo
12:29 PM
The current gov mind you
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 9/14/2023 5:37 PM
Elon's a tankie now.
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Leeja Miller on the Regressives’ attempts at dismantling public education: https://youtu.be/MHkmQfnNQ1w
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BubsyFanboy 9/15/2023 9:08 AM
They say that, in four years, cumulative inflation has reached 45%, the minimum wage has risen 65%, but public sector salaries have only increased by 18%.
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Special counsel Jack Smith has asked a judge to impose a "narrowly tailored" gag order against former President Trump in his 2020 federal election interference case.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/15/2023 7:18 PM
how about
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he doesn't
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Galactic_Obama 🇺🇸 9/15/2023 7:18 PM
If some chud hopped out and started assaulting my kid at an athletic event, they're probably getting shot lol
7:19 PM
"all I was doing was trying to kill your kid, how could you"
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/15/2023 7:22 PM
looks like a nonce
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Yeah that's a man who's gonna get a slug in the gut
8:36 PM
Not a punch slug btw
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 9/15/2023 8:43 PM
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Yeah that's a man who's gonna get a slug in the gut
AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/15/2023 8:46 PM
i think canister shot from a blunderbuss would be more painfull
8:46 PM
since its literally throwing a bunch of sharp garbage down the barrel and shooting the person
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joe hill’s revenge 9/15/2023 9:05 PM
A friend invited me to this event
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MisterStompy 9/15/2023 11:51 PM
rebels in Myanmar are balls to the fuckin wall, dude https://twitter.com/nicholas6284/status/1702620569219321902
Another fascist army column wipred out in Hpruso, Karenni. Those un-alived include a Lt Col (btln cmder) + 20++ weapons seized. #MyanmarRevolution
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11:51 PM
I was thinking "shit why doesn't America air drop these glorious bastards some ordinance?" but maybe they don't actually need it
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nah, that's Germany
11:55 PM
sorta
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MisterStompy 9/15/2023 11:55 PM
twitter commies: posts a meme saying only communists have the balls to fight fascists Myanmar liberals and anarchists: https://youtu.be/6ODNxy3YOPU
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at least german citizens and a LOT of 3-d printers
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twitter commies: posts a meme saying only communists have the balls to fight fascists Myanmar liberals and anarchists: https://youtu.be/6ODNxy3YOPU
AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/15/2023 11:56 PM
those myanmar lads are simply built different
11:57 PM
they do not fuck around
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those myanmar lads are simply built different
MisterStompy 9/15/2023 11:57 PM
there's this absolutely BALLER video somewhere out there where some Myanmar zoomers in one of those little Nissan e-vehicles do a driveby on a military checkpoint with a kalashnikov
11:57 PM
like literal spiky haired they/thems
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/15/2023 11:58 PM
lmfao
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lets goo
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my generation out there doin something
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to be fair, Myanmars been dealing with fash BS for a lot long time
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they are willing to kill a bitch
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also many of them (not entirely wrong) see the coup as China* related antics (edited)
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and much like Vietnam, they have a history of China* trying to screw em over (edited)
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*(the gov, not the people necessarily on China)
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*(the gov, not the people necessarily on China)
AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/16/2023 12:02 AM
of course
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Plus the government that got coup's was moderately liked
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joe hill’s revenge 9/16/2023 12:10 AM
Provocative group rallies are part of an effort to consolidate a white supremacist movement that has been largely decentralized since the disastrous “Unite The Right” rally in 2017, said Hannah Gais, a senior researcher at the Southern Poverty Law Center.
“The movement hasn’t really recovered from that,” Gais told The Daily Beast. She noted that many current groups rely on tactics like vandalism, flier distribution, and small (but extensively photographed) rallies to give off the impression of a thriving movement.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/maine-wants-blood-tribe-neo-nazi-squatters-gone
The group “Blood Tribe” is vying for national attention with a swastika march in Florida. In Maine, they’re the latest out-of-state headache.
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That definitely sours the masses against you
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Provocative group rallies are part of an effort to consolidate a white supremacist movement that has been largely decentralized since the disastrous “Unite The Right” rally in 2017, said Hannah Gais, a senior researcher at the Southern Poverty Law Center.
“The movement hasn’t really recovered from that,” Gais told The Daily Beast. She noted that many current groups rely on tactics like vandalism, flier distribution, and small (but extensively photographed) rallies to give off the impression of a thriving movement.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/maine-wants-blood-tribe-neo-nazi-squatters-gone
Unleash the bears
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/16/2023 1:16 AM
I find it funny how people who are pro death sentence will pick the most modern yet extremely unreliable methods of execution ever made At least grow a pair of fucking balls and suggest the guillotine, that is really the quickest and most painless form of execution ever made
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It's actually arguably not. There's arguments of a moment of consciousness after the head severs
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Death is not painless
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/16/2023 1:30 AM
Closest
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Fair
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/16/2023 1:30 AM
there is far more room for error with electrocution
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Firing squad too
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/16/2023 1:30 AM
or death needle
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Aces high
Firing squad too
AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/16/2023 1:31 AM
Tru
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I find it funny how people who are pro death sentence will pick the most modern yet extremely unreliable methods of execution ever made At least grow a pair of fucking balls and suggest the guillotine, that is really the quickest and most painless form of execution ever made
Galactic_Obama 🇺🇸 9/16/2023 1:36 AM
They're only unreliable because doctors cannot design or administer them. And it's a big reason why modern methods are ethically no different than the old methods
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We like to pretend we have advanced as a species and are not as barbaric now as we used to
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But we have found no such enlightenment, just more clever ways to kill
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/16/2023 1:38 AM
Executions peaked at the guillotine/firing squad you cannot convince me otherwise of course you can just not kill the guy but thats just plain obvious lol
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Death is not painless
AvoidOblivion 9/16/2023 7:53 AM
The best way to achieve a painless death is sudden, incredibly fast, and extreme crushing of the brain.
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Stolas_of_the_Stars 9/16/2023 12:18 PM
We were required to euthanize rodents when I studied zoology. The spinal disbar was the preferred method. You put a pencil behind its neck and pull its tail. Instant KO. When there werent standards the old way was to put them in a sack and smash them against a tree.
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MisterStompy 9/16/2023 12:24 PM
Trump believes the vaccine saved lives!!!! What are you kidding me
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Megyn Kelly: Can a man become a woman? Trump: Ummmmmmmmm ..... Defend this crap! I dare you! We are about to find out who all the frauds are on the right. This is indefensible.
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joe hill’s revenge 9/16/2023 12:25 PM
SPLIT! SPLIT! SPLIT!
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MisterStompy 9/16/2023 12:26 PM
Trump has gone woke 😔
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joe hill’s revenge 9/16/2023 12:27 PM
I mean he wants to be electable abd he know that transphobia isn’t populist with most votes
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MisterStompy 9/16/2023 12:29 PM
He's pushing away anybody who wants to vote for him tho
12:31 PM
still who would have thought Trump would end up being the most rational out of any of the Republican candidates this time around
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He's pushing away anybody who wants to vote for him tho
joe hill’s revenge 9/16/2023 12:32 PM
It’s a tightrope
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He has ti be radical@for his base and moderate for the general election.
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MisterStompy 9/16/2023 12:46 PM
This is what happens when you don't have enough bullying in schools. https://twitter.com/fasizmas91/status/1634145094864453637
What ideologies have influenced your own beliefs the most? For me, it's; • fascism • futurism • marxist leninism • socialism with chinese characteristics • kimilsungism-kimjongilism • strasserism • irish republicanism • catholicism • pan europeanism
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oh my god i just noticed the little ascii fasces in his username
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• Fascism • Traditionalism/Perennialism • Juche • "Nazbol" type ideologues like Freda • National Socialism • French New Right • Marxist Leninism Maoism • Sorelianism • Ba'athism • Duginism/Fourth Positionism (however I haven't read much of him. Only a few articles)
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This is what happens when you don't have enough bullying in schools. https://twitter.com/fasizmas91/status/1634145094864453637
joe hill’s revenge 9/16/2023 12:50 PM
How schizo do you want to be? Yes
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Wtf is perennialism
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joe hill’s revenge 9/16/2023 12:51 PM
“Dharmaduce”
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MisterStompy 9/16/2023 1:04 PM
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/16/2023 1:05 PM
lmfao
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#thebrainwashingofmydad @davidsedarisbooks @nprfreshair
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/16/2023 4:07 PM
yeah, andrew tate did that to my dad
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and jordan peterson
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etc
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Galactic_Obama 🇺🇸 9/16/2023 4:13 PM
I was much different politically in 2016 and thru 2018 or so
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Voted for trump in 2016. Lots has changed since then.
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I was in the online pipeline back then. But I had a pretty big upending in my political ideology and world view after I met my wife
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Not afraid to say I was wrong then.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/16/2023 4:16 PM
2016 was fucking wild man...
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Galactic_Obama 🇺🇸 9/16/2023 4:18 PM
I'm still convinced that if trumps opponent was anyone less universally hated than fuckin Hillary then he would have lost
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/16/2023 4:33 PM
Agreed
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This is what happens when you don't have enough bullying in schools. https://twitter.com/fasizmas91/status/1634145094864453637
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 9/16/2023 9:09 PM
Or too much.
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or better yet, becausing bullying is shit, we normalize beating the fuck out of fash idiots?
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I'm still convinced that if trumps opponent was anyone less universally hated than fuckin Hillary then he would have lost
tbh I've been skeptical against the Hillary hate since the disinfo campaign came out. But tbh I argue Hillary should have pulled a founding fathers and made Bernie her VP.
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seriously had she made Bernie her VP, there's a chance the Trump era could have been avoided
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joe hill’s revenge 9/16/2023 11:17 PM
VICE News created a database of demonstrations involving members of hardline neo-Nazi groups and identified nearly two dozen such events in 2023 so far—already outpacing the number of events we logged from all of last year. Even more striking, we logged a fraction of public demonstrations by hardore Nazi groups in 2021 and 2020 compared to those in 2022. https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7byyd/2024-election-neo-nazis-visible-on-streets
VICE News built a database out of the public neo-Nazi actions over the last four years and it shows a dramatic increase year over year that's only growing.
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and, to be fair, Trump under covid in particular pissed off so many center-left to going liberal or later full on leftists, its a matter of time before a backlash against the GOP happens
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VICE News created a database of demonstrations involving members of hardline neo-Nazi groups and identified nearly two dozen such events in 2023 so far—already outpacing the number of events we logged from all of last year. Even more striking, we logged a fraction of public demonstrations by hardore Nazi groups in 2021 and 2020 compared to those in 2022. https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7byyd/2024-election-neo-nazis-visible-on-streets
we need to organize a Philly welcome, Find where they're going and flush em out. (edited)
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joe hill’s revenge 9/16/2023 11:20 PM
Hate crimes typically fluctuate in peaks and valleys, and the peaks have historically coincided with general election years, said Levin. Last year, hate crimes in America’s 10 biggest cities hit record highs. The largest increases in hate crimes were targeting non-white people, Jewish people, and the LGBTQ community. Hate crimes in 2023 have seen a slight downturn—as have the number of organized hate groups, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center. But the temperature remains very high, and the downturns are not as steep as they should be ahead of 2024. “I haven’t seen anything like this in my 37 years of tracking it,” said Levin. “This accelerating aggressive Nazism and other types of bigotry is a warning that we are not heeding.”
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we need to organize a Philly welcome, Find where they're going and flush em out. (edited)
joe hill’s revenge 9/16/2023 11:20 PM
How do we do that?
11:20 PM
If we could do that, it would catipult AIF to new heights
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tbh we need to outright have a active, grassroots boots on the ground network
11:21 PM
this is AIF's fatal flaw with being more online imo
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invest in local politics, build your networks, stock up on bricks
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joe hill’s revenge 9/16/2023 11:35 PM
Im trying to organize something
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But it’s like herding cats
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joe hill’s revenge 9/17/2023 1:25 AM
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 9/17/2023 1:27 AM
my boy
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charge your phone
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I mean he wants to be electable abd he know that transphobia isn’t populist with most votes
Trump used to be in favor of Healthcare "like the Canadians have", I'm not kidding He has 0 ideological basis outside of "I want to be in power and be praised wherever I go" and being super petty "muh Obama made fun of me so I'm going republican" Which is why, while dangerous I don't consider him as dangerous as other right wing ideologues, like de Santis for exemple
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Auth-everything lol "What's your ideology? Idk I just want to oppress people"
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