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CALL TO ACTION / information-management
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Skullmaggot 6/29/2022 1:27 AM
Hello, I am looking for expertise in information management for Iron Front.
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oldfuzybear 6/29/2022 2:19 PM
We have information. It is scattered over 50 excel spreadsheets. Good luck! heh
2:19 PM
Let's start getting things organized
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NordicThor_ 6/29/2022 2:53 PM
What does this entail/what’s needed?
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Skullmaggot 6/29/2022 3:29 PM
@NordicThor_ We’re looking for expertise organizing all the information and people coming in here, to understand what our options are. Already talking about Notion app and a wiki, for starters.
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Dr_Diskette 6/29/2022 3:31 PM
I would say as well collecting information on nazi moments
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GG @austinwiltshire, you just advanced to level 1!
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austinwiltshire 6/29/2022 4:00 PM
Sorry for all the posts, I hope this is useful!
4:00 PM
Should I delete and move to the fitness corner?
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austinwiltshire
Should I delete and move to the fitness corner?
Probably easier to find in the fitness corner in the future.
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austinwiltshire 6/29/2022 4:10 PM
Do we have a medical? or layperson medical?
4:10 PM
I can move that last one there. Or put it in fitness.
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austinwiltshire
Do we have a medical? or layperson medical?
I'll make a medical. I think a lot of medical is going to also fit with protest-resources. If anything this can be discussion for medical issues/tips/tutorials, once it's vetted and approved we can move it to the protest-resources
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austinwiltshire 6/29/2022 9:12 PM
I'll move it wherever it's deemed appropriate, including deleting if it's unwanted
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austinwiltshire
I'll move it wherever it's deemed appropriate, including deleting if it's unwanted
Made medics, just for you! Great post by the way, love the research. Feel free to move it over whenever you got the time.
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austinwiltshire 6/29/2022 9:14 PM
Thanks!
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austinwiltshire 6/29/2022 10:27 PM
TLDR: These are basically stages a psychologist (Tuckman) saw in all groups forming. It's nice to know they are there, so you know what to expect. Forming: Where we are now. Mostly peaceful, folks figuring out what to do. Storming: Drama. People stepping on each others toes. Roles conflicting. If you stick through this stage, you'll make it to... Norming: Peace returning, people starting to get into the grove and finally... Performing: Long enough time in norming and people get good at execution - everyone knows whats expected and the group is gelled
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10:27 PM
Storming may take people by surprise but it's natural - just work on active listening, emotional intelligence, and the like. If you push through, the group does emerge stronger.
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Skullmaggot 6/29/2022 10:42 PM
@Black Magic We're just starting out. Surviving and thriving comes in stages. Our most general expectations at the moment are Tuckman's stages of development: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuckman%27s_stages_of_group_development.
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TLDR: These are basically stages a psychologist (Tuckman) saw in all groups forming. It's nice to know they are there, so you know what to expect. Forming: Where we are now. Mostly peaceful, folks figuring out what to do. Storming: Drama. People stepping on each others toes. Roles conflicting. If you stick through this stage, you'll make it to... Norming: Peace returning, people starting to get into the grove and finally... Performing: Long enough time in norming and people get good at execution - everyone knows whats expected and the group is gelled
Braakinthesaddle 6/30/2022 3:51 AM
Literally just learned about all this last semester in o e of my classes on group therapy facilitation. Great stuff!
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Braakinthesaddle
Literally just learned about all this last semester in o e of my classes on group therapy facilitation. Great stuff!
WojtektheBear 6/30/2022 5:08 PM
We know who everyone is gonna go crying to now lol /j
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Braakinthesaddle 6/30/2022 5:53 PM
5:53 PM
j/k
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SharaHuffle 7/2/2022 6:41 PM
I'd be happy to help; I'm a records manager/archivist in my day job. What kind of assistance are you looking for?
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Doctor Eval 7/3/2022 2:17 AM
patriot front route from their boston march today - data from twitter, news (edited)
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patriot front route from their boston march today - data from twitter, news (edited)
WojtektheBear 7/3/2022 11:00 AM
I’ll take a look later, busy atm but I appreciate the effort
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WojtektheBear 8/18/2022 9:59 AM
Bellingcat is hosting an osint hackathon in September: https://twitter.com/bellingcat/status/1559965974605996039
Over two days in September, we're hosting two remote hackathons for teams to develop digital investigation and network analysis tools to help open source researchers. Find out more about Bellingcat's Global Hackathons and how to apply here: 👇 https://t.co/unU8v8O3aC
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heinz_ketchup 8/27/2022 11:38 AM
for osint/security noobs like me, I found this podcast and set of tools to be super helpful for learning. https://inteltechniques.com/tools/index.html
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heinz_ketchup 9/1/2022 11:48 AM
The O.MG Cable is a hand made USB cable with an extremely advanced implant hidden inside. It is designed to allow your Red Team to emulate attack scenarios of sophisticated adversaries. Until now, a cable like this would cost $20,000 (ex: COTTONMOUTH-I). These cables will allow you to test new detection opportunities f
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thechromatograph3r 9/2/2022 12:14 PM
Because of course they did
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heinz_ketchup 9/2/2022 12:32 PM
given how much of a security problem smart phones are, is there any alternative? some kind of open source linux version of a smart phone that isn't tied into apple or google?
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Technically laptops can be customized to be but...well...custom laptops
2:00 PM
As a aspiring animation major myself, customizing a laptops is a pain in the ass
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Steve Mike 9/3/2022 3:27 PM
I got my laptop partitioned into a dual boot system with Windows and Linux. I never use Windows anymore, only kept it on there for an old job where I needed it. I use Ubuntu and while it's not perfect, it works for the majority of what I need, also works really well for programming
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Skullmaggot 9/15/2022 11:28 PM
@1uc2 We can discuss here, as what I'm trying to do is collect materials for people and store them in a knowledge base. It might also be good to start an "antifascist wiki" if we're to work only with publically available information. Are you interested in anything, @LessthanLoneWolf ?
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LessthanLoneWolf 9/16/2022 12:03 AM
@Skullmaggot I can see what I can contribute. I’ve got plenty of Army FM’s and TCCC info; I can pick apart to see what might be useful for quick reference sheets, and do a brief PowerPoint/worksheet on basic medical care. Still waiting on my “stop the bleed course” but I’ll see if I can put some info on that too
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@Skullmaggot I can see what I can contribute. I’ve got plenty of Army FM’s and TCCC info; I can pick apart to see what might be useful for quick reference sheets, and do a brief PowerPoint/worksheet on basic medical care. Still waiting on my “stop the bleed course” but I’ll see if I can put some info on that too
Skullmaggot 9/16/2022 12:17 AM
We do have "medical information" on the medics channel, but it's not organized succinctly in any way. I think I do want to do something like a wiki with everything accessible to the public because that sort of information I don't need to protect and instead it needs to be handed out freely. However, I've never done a wiki project before and would require lots of help, I'd imagine. In the meantime, if we're only thinking about sharing information internally, we have a secure knowledge base that we can use as cloud storage, but it's clunky/buggy and lacks file editing 😦 . It'd be nice to find a file editing system that's free, secure, and supports unlimited users. Also, it should have a large amount of (free) storage. Police can unfortunately access a Google drive. (edited)
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LessthanLoneWolf 9/16/2022 12:19 AM
I’m not that tech savvy, unfortunately, so working on a wiki is beyond my skills. I can try to organize medical info for laypersons by category, and get an article/sheet for a wiki entry?
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LessthanLoneWolf
I’m not that tech savvy, unfortunately, so working on a wiki is beyond my skills. I can try to organize medical info for laypersons by category, and get an article/sheet for a wiki entry?
Skullmaggot 9/16/2022 12:21 AM
We can definitely piece it together over time, and I'll put out an ask for wiki capability. All of these projects can be moved forward incrementally but get faster the more people we can get.
12:22 AM
It's never an insurmountable task by any means. People want to help, all that we need to do is ask and make sure they too can get something out of it.
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I can set up a wiki. I can set up whatever kind of server you want. I kinda think a private GitHub project might be a good idea, to make all the choices collaborative, and if you don't have GitHub skills, I guess I will need to offer to teach as well.
1:00 PM
I was just going to ask if we could pick a collaboration tool and start compiling a FAQ and glossary of terms.
1:02 PM
GitHub would be the place to keep all the changes to web content, discussion, and publishing flow.
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I was just going to ask if we could pick a collaboration tool and start compiling a FAQ and glossary of terms.
Skullmaggot 9/17/2022 1:13 PM
Exactly, I want a FAQ for stuff and to get a sort of pipeline going. All this would be the sort of stuff that is publicly available information. We wouldn’t be putting OSINT stuff but rather how to get involved and where to find resources. We got a meeting tomorrow if you would like to attend, but I’ll at least bring it up.
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Sure. Invite me. I'll be a fly on the wall unless you want to put me on the agenda. I'm ok just being available to answer questions or make suggestions in a consulting role.
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Sure. Invite me. I'll be a fly on the wall unless you want to put me on the agenda. I'm ok just being available to answer questions or make suggestions in a consulting role.
Skullmaggot 9/17/2022 1:59 PM
K. We’ve been doing public meetings fairly regularly every 2 weeks at 9 AM PST/12 PM EST on the Meeting Room voice chat channel. It’ll probably be a busy one, and meetings haven’t yet gotten so hectic that they need to be structured (though we might want to structure it or put in a soft time limit now with so many things going on). Either you or I can bring up a wiki at the end. I’ll be typing up a summary of stuff I’m looking at and put it in the chat towards the beginning. It’s a lot and I’m almost always muted. (edited)
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I'm also a bit of a seasoned organizer. There's a trick to managing these meetings when they start to get full and busy. You need to have a series of steps from informal chat to full blown Roberts Rules, each with incrementally stricter rules, and always be strict about letting everyone know which set of rules is in effect for each meeting. That's actually built into Roberts Rules in a protocol called "calling for the orders of the day" for example.
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Basically, someone says "call for the orders of the day" and the meeting facilitator acknowledges the ask, and after that the agenda list trumps all random chatter. Usually that means first, regular reports due at the meeting, then old business deferred from prior meetings, then new business can be opened up for discussion, primarily to make sure there's time given to prior promises THEN open discussion. I often see that level of rules, and rarely anything more strict or ritualistic. The requirements for that start with keeping open meeting records (minutes), and having a template for meeting agenda to follow.
2:53 PM
Those would likely be good first pages to put up on a Wiki.
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After that, it gets easier to make decisions on plans, and delegate responsibilities, and keep track of changes to progress and priorities.
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I'm also a bit of a seasoned organizer. There's a trick to managing these meetings when they start to get full and busy. You need to have a series of steps from informal chat to full blown Roberts Rules, each with incrementally stricter rules, and always be strict about letting everyone know which set of rules is in effect for each meeting. That's actually built into Roberts Rules in a protocol called "calling for the orders of the day" for example.
Skullmaggot 9/17/2022 5:18 PM
Oh, be sure to @ me because I'm bouncing around a lot and may not see your messages. I just saw this now and will read it.
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I'm also a bit of a seasoned organizer. There's a trick to managing these meetings when they start to get full and busy. You need to have a series of steps from informal chat to full blown Roberts Rules, each with incrementally stricter rules, and always be strict about letting everyone know which set of rules is in effect for each meeting. That's actually built into Roberts Rules in a protocol called "calling for the orders of the day" for example.
Skullmaggot 9/17/2022 5:24 PM
Right, I was having one of our admins/mods bring me up to speed on Robert's Rules, but right now they're away due to family business. Do you have a particular pdf to recommend? There's several online. I'll stick it on the startup channel.
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I have an old paperback book! I'm such a dinosaur.
5:26 PM
I think this one is official: https://robertsrules.org/robertsrules.pdf
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austinwiltshire 9/19/2022 6:02 PM
TBH, related to what I mentioned in organization, simply providing a clean, navigable reference and tutorial system for how to organize (tying in the best resources we find, we don't have to write that much ourselves) could be a huge part of the AIF value proposition. And I think the brand, like, not necessarily far left (but not not far left) can be seen as more approachable to a lot of folks wondering what to do that haven't found their way into joining their local john brown gun club. To sum up, this seems like a good strategy.
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LouisiAnarchist 5/15/2023 2:52 PM
This is the org that is working with Moms for Liberty in East Baton Rouge Parish
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LouisiAnarchist
This is the org that is working with Moms for Liberty in East Baton Rouge Parish
That dude wears a white hood on Sunday nights.
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Unsure if this is where to ask, but does anyone have experience with GPG or something similar? Looking to create an emergency info file that needs multiple people to unlock, but not the full group of people with keys. (edited)
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str8 up demon 7/19/2023 6:57 PM
KeepNote: note-taking and organization. KeepNote is a note taking application that works on Windows, Linux, and MacOS X. With KeepNote, you can store your class notes, TODO lists, research notes, journal entries, paper outlines, etc in a simple notebook hierarchy with rich-text formatting, images, and more. Using full-text search, you can ret...
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40% of Cops 8/8/2023 6:40 PM
Here's a zine containing the personal information of Cop City's major supporters. Feel free to distribute 🏴
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If someone could share to the Georgia channel, that would be great
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 8/8/2023 6:41 PM
will do
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So I follow a guy on instagram that deals with a lot of spam/scam stuff and gives a lot of great info named Ryankellycomedy and he just posted something about whitepages.com so I'm putting the info here. I'll post the link to the video too.
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He says to go on whitepages.com, search your name, find your record, and copy the link to the page. Search for whitepages suppression request, then paste the link for your profile and follow the steps. You'll get a robo phone call that will ask you info.
1:29 PM
Creator friends do this! Everyone else… also do this! It takes time but is worth not having your data or address out there.
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He says to go on whitepages.com, search your name, find your record, and copy the link to the page. Search for whitepages suppression request, then paste the link for your profile and follow the steps. You'll get a robo phone call that will ask you info.
AvoidOblivion 9/1/2023 2:02 PM
I've requested that my info be wiped from these websites before. It's added back the moment they get more information on you.
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I've requested that my info be wiped from these websites before. It's added back the moment they get more information on you.
koala_kabob 9/3/2023 11:19 AM
That sucks. It's an uphill battle. Given the address history they listed for me, I think Amazon has to be a source. Discover card has a free service to scan 10 of the bigger sites for one's personal info every month and auto-request removal. It's not perfect but it helps with the re-adding problem.
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