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Id love to get involved in politics and protests but idk where to start. I barely use social media idk where you hear about upcoming protests

Adm Trevor

Id love to get involved in politics and protests but idk where to start. I barely use social media idk where you hear about upcoming protests

No problem at all. There's a couple locations folks will post for our states and I'll be sure to keep an eye out for yours. We got this set up recently, so give it time for more folks to join in your chapter. Feel free to chat and talk to those outside your state too, there are ways to support outside your own state

Any of you within the Chicagoland area?

11:21 PM

Tryna to get out and protest overturning roe

11:21 PM

But not sure where to go

Same here

_Max

Tryna to get out and protest overturning roe

Due to the high profile nature and wider appeal of protesting the overruling, a lot of protests will be posted openly on various civil rights groups websites. While many focus on gaining petition signatures en masse, some are also more direct-action oriented and (these tend to be less openly displayed as far as I have seen so look out for flyers and listen up online and on wour way about!)

@Illinois

6:18 PM

https://twitter.com/AlexMillerNews/status/1544077121596825601?t=4E6G7eiDtcFVnd98BD-lwQ&s=19

Alex Miller (@AlexMillerNews)

NEW: SUSPECT: Robert "Bobby" E. Crimo III, 22 Driving a 2010 Silver Honda Fit LICENSE PLATE: IL DM80653

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This shit bag is in custody

birb

This shit bag is in custody

Link?

It was a police briefing I was watching

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God I hope he Rots

Dr_Diskette

Link?

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birb

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Good fuck that cunt

_Max

Any of you within the Chicagoland area?

I am! Looking to start a ironfront chapter here. There seems to be so much anti-fascist sentiment in Chicagoland but not much organization. Let's change that.

WindandGales

I am! Looking to start a ironfront chapter here. There seems to be so much anti-fascist sentiment in Chicagoland but not much organization. Let's change that.

I'm down hmu

11:19 PM

I go to school in Central Illinois, just here for the summer

11:19 PM

That an issue for you?

_Max

I go to school in Central Illinois, just here for the summer

Not at all. Where abouts in the city are you for the Summer?

Hiyo, I'm from the suburbs of Chicago

YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker

Hiyo, I'm from the suburbs of Chicago

Great to have you. Just joined?

Yep!

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WindandGales

Not at all. Where abouts in the city are you for the Summer?

Suburbs rn

I’m from Lake County. I go to college in Boston right now but I’ll be home for the summer

Rockford here

Cpt. Benjamin Sisko

I’m from Lake County. I go to college in Boston right now but I’ll be home for the summer

Oy when you’re back in civilization let us know I’m the AIF MA point person. I haven’t discussed this widely yet but we want to do a lot of propaganda drops on campuses across the country. I work at one of the universities and will take clases starting in January here so I can help

WojtektheBear

Oy when you’re back in civilization let us know I’m the AIF MA point person. I haven’t discussed this widely yet but we want to do a lot of propaganda drops on campuses across the country. I work at one of the universities and will take clases starting in January here so I can help

Oh great sorry was busy I’ll type up a quick intro now. You can get to know me more later too

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Cpt. Benjamin Sisko

Oh great sorry was busy I’ll type up a quick intro now. You can get to know me more later too

We’ll definitely be doing a lot of meet ups and I’m still a student so I’m excited for that

WojtektheBear

We’ll definitely be doing a lot of meet ups and I’m still a student so I’m excited for that

Awesome, I got some skills and hobbies I’d love to contribute. I made my intro. I can help out in both Illinois and Massachusetts

4:33 PM

Happy to drill in combatives or go shooting too. Finally found a militia that isn’t radical right and bigoted

Cpt. Benjamin Sisko

Happy to drill in combatives or go shooting too. Finally found a militia that isn’t radical right and bigoted

Wouldn’t exactly call us a militia but we are pro 2A and community defense. Local SRA does a lot of training in NH for obvious reasons. I’ll reach out to my connection there.

4:36 PM

Also are you also Thucydides or a different dude lol

WojtektheBear

Wouldn’t exactly call us a militia but we are pro 2A and community defense. Local SRA does a lot of training in NH for obvious reasons. I’ll reach out to my connection there.

I see, I mean we won’t be agitators at all, we will be the opposite of the Oathkeepers, or provoke people but it will strictly be defensive. And yeah I’ll check out SRA which can be for members who actually want to train. AIF can include more roles for those who don’t (edited)

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WojtektheBear

Also are you also Thucydides or a different dude lol

Sorry I changed my name

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4:37 PM

I felt like k shouldn’t have a realist political philosopher as my profile if I profess to be an egalitarian liberal idealist.

Cpt. Benjamin Sisko

I felt like k shouldn’t have a realist political philosopher as my profile if I profess to be an egalitarian liberal idealist.

I’m no fan of the supposed inevitability of the Melian dialogue as an IR student for sure

WojtektheBear

I’m no fan of the supposed inevitability of the Melian dialogue as an IR student for sure

Mearsheimer is getting btfo now that Putin actually invaded and didn’t rationally calculate the security dilemma at hand.

Cpt. Benjamin Sisko

Mearsheimer is getting btfo now that Putin actually invaded and didn’t rationally calculate the security dilemma at hand.

Mearsheimer is completely full of shit.

4:42 PM

No one who had a 15th century style painting of themselves should be taken seriously

WojtektheBear

No one who had a 15th century style painting of themselves should be taken seriously

Oh in his lectures he prides himself “oh I get on well with the Chinese. Oh they and Russia see things in an early modern era style.” Well guess what John, hybrid and asymmetric warfare and globalization and technological elements and influence operations did not exist on that scale then in the first place.

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4:44 PM

The way I see it now is that because of globalization, every point on the planet could possibly be a sphere of influence due to ehhh cyberattacks or jet aircraft dropping in delta force into a foreign internal defense mission?

4:44 PM

So the framework just got eroded. I think constructivism is interesting.

4:45 PM

As Varys for GoT says: power resides where people believe it resides

4:46 PM

In the age he references the closest thing perhaps could be Catherine’s Flying squadron.

Cpt. Benjamin Sisko

So the framework just got eroded. I think constructivism is interesting.

I’d probably identify as liberal constructivist, my politics can best be described as militant social democracy as transitional step to Space Anarchy (which I won’t live to see but I can at least move the Overton window such that it becomes possible eventually)

WojtektheBear

I’d probably identify as liberal constructivist, my politics can best be described as militant social democracy as transitional step to Space Anarchy (which I won’t live to see but I can at least move the Overton window such that it becomes possible eventually)

Militant social democracy interesting. I think regime change and offensive war rarely works so I’m “anti imperialist.” In a sense, but most of the online left gets their view of foreign policy from Red-Brown populist figures who never actually studied or worked in foreign policy institutions and who can’t extensively critique the actions of the US or NATO. I doubt any official WANTS to kill civilians but they are characterized as delighting in the suffering of Iraqi children or whatever. I think certain war crimes or acts of imperialism occur out of desperation or stupidity more so than actual desire for human suffering. And so I’m kind of hawkish but believe in solidarity between democracies, multilateralism and smart power. Offensive and/or unilateral war only as a last resort, just war theory. I support NATO as an institution more broadly.

4:53 PM

The left just has no alternative prescriptions… they don’t know an alternative solution to ensure security or hold terrorists or authoritarians accountable in the absence of NATO or American hegemony. The power vacuum if america also withdraws could be an opening for a lot of violence too so it’s a double bind (edited)

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4:54 PM

The don’t even commentate in the field of IR aside from vaguely perhaps world systems theory, they don’t participate

Cpt. Benjamin Sisko

The don’t even commentate in the field of IR aside from vaguely perhaps world systems theory, they don’t participate

There’s a growing heterodox left wing FoPo scene but it can be a mixed bag. But you’ll also find some of the clearest criticisms of The Blob and MIC, check out the American prestige podcast good example of what I’m talking about

WojtektheBear

There’s a growing heterodox left wing FoPo scene but it can be a mixed bag. But you’ll also find some of the clearest criticisms of The Blob and MIC, check out the American prestige podcast good example of what I’m talking about

American prestige podcast alright.

5:00 PM

The MIC definitely is also from a rational amoral basis a security threat if it lobbies outside of the national interest but just for profit. Of course there is waste fraud and abuse too. I maybe have the idea of drawing down the military budget, letting the EU federalize and boost its own military spending and then rebalancing the budget to more agile or advanced tech and platforms, quality over quantity. As for the MIC itself idk whether to nationalize it or regulate or trust bust it.

5:01 PM

Oh cool the prestige actually looks like it has credentials

Cpt. Benjamin Sisko

Oh cool the prestige actually looks like it has credentials

Yeah I don’t agree with everything the hosts think but they have really great interviews with experts and the he hosts themselves are quite knowledgeable

Cpt. Benjamin Sisko

The MIC definitely is also from a rational amoral basis a security threat if it lobbies outside of the national interest but just for profit. Of course there is waste fraud and abuse too. I maybe have the idea of drawing down the military budget, letting the EU federalize and boost its own military spending and then rebalancing the budget to more agile or advanced tech and platforms, quality over quantity. As for the MIC itself idk whether to nationalize it or regulate or trust bust it.

Hard agree but definitely details to be worked out

We can talk more later I feel like we can go on and on about this if we both study IR

Cpt. Benjamin Sisko

We can talk more later I feel like we can go on and on about this if we both study IR

Lmfao yeah especially when you’re back in town

WindandGales

I am! Looking to start a ironfront chapter here. There seems to be so much anti-fascist sentiment in Chicagoland but not much organization. Let's change that.

Hello! I am from Human Resources. I’m looking to find point people who are interested in establishing a chapter in this locale. Are you interested in being a point person for Illinois? Do you have other group members?

Skullmaggot

Hello! I am from Human Resources. I’m looking to find point people who are interested in establishing a chapter in this locale. Are you interested in being a point person for Illinois? Do you have other group members?

Hey! Thank you for reaching out. Yes I am interested in being point on this. So far none in chicago through here but looking for more. Looks to be a few in IL in general.

WindandGales

Hey! Thank you for reaching out. Yes I am interested in being point on this. So far none in chicago through here but looking for more. Looks to be a few in IL in general.

Weren’t @_Max and @YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker in Chicago and interested?

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Hi! Yep

9:53 PM

Man, a lot of stuff to read and understand in the past two days in here haha

YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker

Man, a lot of stuff to read and understand in the past two days in here haha

Good problems to have

WojtektheBear

There’s a growing heterodox left wing FoPo scene but it can be a mixed bag. But you’ll also find some of the clearest criticisms of The Blob and MIC, check out the American prestige podcast good example of what I’m talking about

What does FoPo mean?

Foreign Policy

Aha, thanks!

Skullmaggot

Weren’t @_Max and @YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker in Chicago and interested?

Yeah

YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker

Man, a lot of stuff to read and understand in the past two days in here haha

Yo! Sorry I totally forgot you were also in the area. We should chat sometime about meet ups

_Max

Yeah

Same to you as well!

Def! I'm down

@WindandGales @_Max @YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker What sort of information/resources do you think you need to get internally organized? AIF appears to be looking for skilled or active people. There’s also a lot of people to work with and at least the Human Resources Team has too few people to meet with everyone individually. That’s why I’m at least trying to establish point people. We currently don’t have enough people to organize everyone efficiently, so we’re looking out instead for those who are self-organizing. Emerging groups also seem to be fairly individual in their needs. One size does not fit all. So, what do you think you need to advance in your functionality as a group so far?

We probably need to discuss what activities we want to do. Then we can extract our needs, and then plan their fulfillment

YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker

We probably need to discuss what activities we want to do. Then we can extract our needs, and then plan their fulfillment

Sounds good. There is a survey coming out soon that will assess the entire Discord’s values and what we stand for. Definitely discuss what activities you’re interested in so that I can provide you with people and resources.

YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker

We probably need to discuss what activities we want to do. Then we can extract our needs, and then plan their fulfillment

Oh, also, a couple of encrypted messaging apps are Element and Telegram if you need to have secure conversations.

Skullmaggot

Sounds good. There is a survey coming out soon that will assess the entire Discord’s values and what we stand for. Definitely discuss what activities you’re interested in so that I can provide you with people and resources.

Agree with @YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker Once we have something like that we can effectively begin to plan. Right now we'd just kinda be spinning our wheels on ideas/meetings/etc. Outreach I think is super important. Getting ourselves with the right established community leaders, organizers and such. We need to use what's already been established here to help build out our messaging as well as lend a hand to those doing similar work/work we'd also want to do ourselves. I am also personally interested in working with a chicago chapter to help create videos to help pump out specific anti Fascist content. That's where personal skills can best be used. In the mean time I'm happy to stay active on this page and help organize as much as I can.

WindandGales

Agree with @YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker Once we have something like that we can effectively begin to plan. Right now we'd just kinda be spinning our wheels on ideas/meetings/etc. Outreach I think is super important. Getting ourselves with the right established community leaders, organizers and such. We need to use what's already been established here to help build out our messaging as well as lend a hand to those doing similar work/work we'd also want to do ourselves. I am also personally interested in working with a chicago chapter to help create videos to help pump out specific anti Fascist content. That's where personal skills can best be used. In the mean time I'm happy to stay active on this page and help organize as much as I can.

Right. As for outreach, we have that values survey coming out to establish an identity and what we want to defend. That will be ultimately useful for presenting to other organizations who we are and what we stand for. Videos and content can also follow from establishing our group’s values. We can of course set up a “Media Team” concurrently for a test run, if you like. (edited)

Skullmaggot

Right. As for outreach, we have that values survey coming out to establish an identity and what we want to defend. That will be ultimately useful for presenting to other organizations who we are and what we stand for. Videos and content can also follow from establishing our group’s values. We can of course set up a “Media Team” concurrently for a test run, if you like. (edited)

That all sounds great to me. Thank you for keeping us informed on all of that.

WindandGales

Agree with @YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker Once we have something like that we can effectively begin to plan. Right now we'd just kinda be spinning our wheels on ideas/meetings/etc. Outreach I think is super important. Getting ourselves with the right established community leaders, organizers and such. We need to use what's already been established here to help build out our messaging as well as lend a hand to those doing similar work/work we'd also want to do ourselves. I am also personally interested in working with a chicago chapter to help create videos to help pump out specific anti Fascist content. That's where personal skills can best be used. In the mean time I'm happy to stay active on this page and help organize as much as I can.

Actually, we do have a variety of media that can be organized (social media, YouTube, print publications, etc.). Do you want to focus on videos specifically? A Video Team? What sort of help with projects would you need?

Skullmaggot

Actually, we do have a variety of media that can be organized (social media, YouTube, print publications, etc.). Do you want to focus on videos specifically? A Video Team? What sort of help with projects would you need?

Yes I would. Help from that would be writers, editors, and graphic designers (which I know we already have a good handful of) I am an editor and writer myself so I can handle a few projects at a time. But it would be awesome to have a smaller group of creatives with those skills, meet up have a channel to communicate from and create some concise work. That way we can pump out videos to be used by all the members across all the socials. Really nail down some campaigns for us.

WindandGales

Yes I would. Help from that would be writers, editors, and graphic designers (which I know we already have a good handful of) I am an editor and writer myself so I can handle a few projects at a time. But it would be awesome to have a smaller group of creatives with those skills, meet up have a channel to communicate from and create some concise work. That way we can pump out videos to be used by all the members across all the socials. Really nail down some campaigns for us.

Okay, got it. I can get you those people. Just know that I’m a little backlogged at the moment. I’m organizing the various states, so I may seem a little slow.

WindandGales

Yes I would. Help from that would be writers, editors, and graphic designers (which I know we already have a good handful of) I am an editor and writer myself so I can handle a few projects at a time. But it would be awesome to have a smaller group of creatives with those skills, meet up have a channel to communicate from and create some concise work. That way we can pump out videos to be used by all the members across all the socials. Really nail down some campaigns for us.

Do you mind if I use what you’ve typed here as a “help wanted” ad?

Skullmaggot

Do you mind if I use what you’ve typed here as a “help wanted” ad?

Awesome thank you. And not at all! Feel free

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WindandGales

Awesome thank you. And not at all! Feel free

I plan on making a channel for you in the Call to Action category as a rough rough dedicated workspace. What should it be called (as a job category) if it's focusing on video? Also, if you make additional workspaces, please link me to them. (edited)

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Skullmaggot

I plan on making a channel for you in the Call to Action category as a rough rough dedicated workspace. What should it be called (as a job category) if it's focusing on video? Also, if you make additional workspaces, please link me to them. (edited)

Video production campaigns. And or, campaigns and video edits. Could be good names for it for now.

WindandGales

Video production campaigns. And or, campaigns and video edits. Could be good names for it for now.

They’re actually more like titles, like “filmmaker.”

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Skullmaggot

They’re actually more like titles, like “filmmaker.”

Filmmaker, or content creator is good too

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@joe hill’s revenge The above thread in the illinois channel discusses it a bit more, but you can of course ask @WindandGales more about her ideas.

Hello! I am with the Human Resources Team. We are looking to find those interested in working with the AIF to do open source intelligence (OSINT). If you are interested, please reply to this message.

Best state

As someone who has driven your turnpike through Chicago...helllll naw

As someone who has flown thru O'Hare, I second the hell naw lol

thechromatograph3r

As someone who has driven your turnpike through Chicago...helllll naw

Good lord

7:06 PM

My condolences

Braakinthesaddle

As someone who has flown thru O'Hare, I second the hell naw lol

Atlanta is even worse lol

Captain AmericanBurger1775

Atlanta is even worse lol

Flown thru ATL once, at least they have AC lol

Heads up

4:22 PM

I go back go uni in like 5 days ish

4:22 PM

So I will be down in Central illinois

4:22 PM

Anyone else down there?

4:22 PM

Would love to meet and organize

4:22 PM

I'm part of the local dsa so I can help recruit manpower for protests and such

Imagine living in Illinois. F

thechromatograph3r

Imagine living in Illinois. F

Trueeeeee

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Anyone near rockford?

Just wanted to say, if shit ever hits the fan in your state, like J6 or Unite the Right level shit, post callouts on neighboring states channels. Some cities in Illinois are only 1.5 hours from Indy.

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Yea they have a chapter in crystal lake not too far from me.

yikes man, stay stay

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Stay strapped

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curcale

yikes man, stay stay

lol i meant stay safe

Hey Illa folks, I know I’m a neighbor but we have this coming up and I’m sure people near you will also be affected.

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3:38 PM

Pontoon beach? That's an unincorporated area between podunk and mud flat.

11:28 PM

That area is SUPER racially segregated though. Remember Ferguson? This is farm towns outside that area.

most people in illinois that far south think they are "southerners" lol

Everywhere south of Joliet is "Southern Illinois" to most people where I live. I72 is kinda mason/dixon line though.

https://antifascistchicago.noblogs.org/post/2022/08/09/nick-fuentes-berwyn-building/nick-fuentes-berwyn-home/ <-- I'm researching this for IF OSINT

CAFA

Nick Fuentes Berwyn home

12:16 PM

https://crs.cookcountyclerkil.gov/Document/Detail?dId=MjYxMzE0NzE1&hId=YjcxYTc4OTg2ZTMyMWVjZjVmM2RjNjhlMjc2ZWRkNjBiYTk3YTIwNzZjZjk5YmI0OGVkMzQ5MmRlODgxM2JiMA2 <-- found this coroborating public record

12:17 PM

https://crs.cookcountyclerkil.gov/Search/ResultByPin?id1=16193110310000&sr=d <-- and all the other documents in the trail

12:21 PM

Berwyn has super restrictive sign ordinances. This gives me an idea. https://www.berwyn-il.gov/home/showpublisheddocument/252/637840895242830000

12:23 PM

I had helped out Chicago Fair Trade when they were first getting started, and they ran a campaign to get the Chicago City Council to pass a "Fair Trade City" ordinance, declaring pro-fair-trade principles.

Illinois hates nazis. Anyone remember Matt Hale? https://beltmag.com/punks-in-peoria-making-a-scene-in-the-american-heartland/

4:23 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_F._Hale

Matthew F. Hale

Matthew F. Hale (born July 27, 1971) is an American white supremacist, neo-Nazi leader and convicted felon. Hale was the founder of the East Peoria, Illinois-based white separatist group then known as the World Church of the Creator (now called The Creativity Movement), and he declared himself its Pontifex Maximus (Latin for "highest priest") in...

OSINT: https://www.bnd.com/news/state/illinois/article269997612.html

1uc2

OSINT: https://www.bnd.com/news/state/illinois/article269997612.html

yup right here in my home town.. sigh...

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