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3:08 PM
I'd love to see memes of the president trying to grab the steering wheel or throwing a toddler fit with ketchup
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When she mentioned the ketchup on the wall I imagined a 3 year old tantrum
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Ham_Pants
When she mentioned the ketchup on the wall I imagined a 3 year old tantrum
It's literally like he never grew up
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WojtektheBear 6/28/2022 5:03 PM
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Really feel like they could have been a bit more thorough about how armed the crowd was and that they knew this 6 hours before the first breach
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Noose is tightening isn't it
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WojtektheBear
Really feel like they could have been a bit more thorough about how armed the crowd was and that they knew this 6 hours before the first breach
They were pretty thorough with the radio calls "ARs on Independence and 14th" sounds like a song name
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They were pretty thorough with the radio calls "ARs on Independence and 14th" sounds like a song name
WojtektheBear 6/28/2022 8:17 PM
Maybe I missed it but like…how many guns did they find in total? How many other weapons were seized?
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"ARs on 14th Street" sounds like a band ngl
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WojtektheBear 6/28/2022 8:20 PM
I just feel like hammering home “the crowd was armed with way more than flagpoles” is important but they also wanted to focus on Hutchinson who was probably more important as a witness
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Yeah, have they taken a look at the guys who rocked up with zip-cuffs and planned to take hostages
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For me this is one of the most chilling images from the insurrection
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WojtektheBear 6/28/2022 9:08 PM
Oh yeah the momma’s boy
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WojtektheBear 6/29/2022 2:47 PM
Ginni Thomas is SO EAGER to clear her name that her lawyer sent the Jan. 6 Committee an 8-page letter explaining why that really doesn't need to and shouldn't happen. @woodruffbets and @nicholaswu12 report: https://t.co/4EJPqYO1nV
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Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has ties to insurrectionists via his wife Ginni Thomas and voted to overturn Roe v. Wade. Thomas says LGBTQ+ rights & contraception should be next. SIGN THE PETITION: Justice Thomas must resign or be impeached!
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The Justice Department should not avoid prosecuting Donald Trump in relation to the Jan. 6 Capitol attack if a prosecution is warranted, Rep. Liz Cheney said in an interview with ABC News' "This Week" co-anchor Jonathan Karl. While bringing charges against the former president -- who may challenge President Joe Biden in 2024 -- would be unprece...
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NordicThor_ 7/9/2022 12:26 AM
The Justice Department released new details Friday evening of the alleged extensive planning by the Oath Keepers to prepare for violence in Washington, DC, on January 6, 2021, including lessons to conduct "hasty ambushes," a "death list" of Georgia election officials and attempts to acquire homemade firearms.
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WojtektheBear 7/10/2022 11:31 AM
This is so fucking nuts they really would have gone full SS if Trump has gone to the Capitol and given the order to do so
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WojtektheBear
This is so fucking nuts they really would have gone full SS if Trump has gone to the Capitol and given the order to do so
WojtektheBear 7/10/2022 6:01 PM
Remember it wasn’t just that they had explosives, these people had a full QRF caravan outside DC and comrades already in the building who they would have brought rifles too. Absolutely no way Stewart Rhodes doesn’t send in his people if Daddy Donald was actually there (edited)
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thechromatograph3r 7/11/2022 12:37 PM
Reminder that the Schutzstaffel was pretty ineffective at first…
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thechromatograph3r
Reminder that the Schutzstaffel was pretty ineffective at first…
WojtektheBear 7/11/2022 1:01 PM
Seems sort of besides the point, goofy or not
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And most of these dudes probably had way more training
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WojtektheBear
Seems sort of besides the point, goofy or not
thechromatograph3r 7/11/2022 1:02 PM
I mean to say that the far-right militias seem laughably pathetic now, but just wait
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thechromatograph3r
I mean to say that the far-right militias seem laughably pathetic now, but just wait
WojtektheBear 7/11/2022 1:09 PM
Oh agreed it’s all yucks until they actually start killing people
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thechromatograph3r 7/11/2022 4:39 PM
BREAKING: as predicted, a Fulton county judge has ORDERED @LindseyGrahamSC to appear before the grand jury AUGUST 2nd. Graham says he will fight it. https://t.co/5qMoqbFmOJ
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4:40 PM
Wow — Steve Bannon’s lawyer David Schoen to Judge Nichols: “What’s the point of going to trial if we don’t have any defences”
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4:40 PM
This was an absolute rout for DOJ, winning virtually every motion and leaving Bannon with almost no conceivable defense except, perhaps, that he misunderstood the date of the subpoena deadline.
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TheAnonymousDew 7/11/2022 4:51 PM
Bannon's going to prison, I hope he gets a big and scary tough guy as a cellmate
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Committee aides declined to provide the names of any witnesses who may be planning to testify on Tuesday, citing “concerns we’ve had for witness security and the potential for harassment.”
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WojtektheBear 7/11/2022 8:11 PM
This might be the most interesting and relevant to our purposes hearing yet
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thechromatograph3r 7/11/2022 11:01 PM
Every single Piss Boy, “Patriot” Front, and Oathbreaker should be investigated
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WojtektheBear 7/12/2022 11:42 AM
New evidence expected at hearing. Committee has encrypted messages between Trump allies and members of extremist groups, I’m told. And committee expected to show Pat Cipollone discussing December 2020 meeting where Trump allies discussed ways to overturn election, per sources
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11:42 AM
This is what I expected tbh
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Roger Stone and Bannon for sure #
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WojtektheBear 7/12/2022 1:21 PM
Oh shit the hearing’s today I brought it was Thursday:
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WojtektheBear 7/12/2022 2:04 PM
Anyone else watching live?
2:06 PM
I’m a bit behind, had to grab lunch but it’s a slow day at work
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WojtektheBear
I’m a bit behind, had to grab lunch but it’s a slow day at work
NordicThor_ 7/12/2022 2:06 PM
I'm listening in the background. Scary shit atm
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NordicThor_
I'm listening in the background. Scary shit atm
WojtektheBear 7/12/2022 2:07 PM
They getting to the good stuff with the PBs and OKs?
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NordicThor_ 7/12/2022 2:07 PM
They were reading a bunch of comments from Trump's social media thing
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donald[dot]win
2:09 PM
Exhibits from the hearing
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TheAnonymousDew 7/12/2022 2:11 PM
Holy shit, Twitter knew?!
2:11 PM
More reason to hold big tech accountable
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NordicThor_ 7/12/2022 2:12 PM
2:18 PM
3D interactive of 6 Jan 2021
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TheAnonymousDew 7/12/2022 2:21 PM
Holy shit, Twitter knew Trump was using their platform to incite violence and did nothing?! More reason to hold big tech accountable.
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Heaven only knows Facebook, YouTube, TikTok, and Instagram's roles in causing J6 too (edited)
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To save American Democracy, big tech must pay
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thechromatograph3r 7/12/2022 2:22 PM
Of course Twitter and Facebook knew. They don’t care because republican good 4 biznezz
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RedMoonWarrior 7/12/2022 2:22 PM
Agreed. However, there is also the question of what should have they done, and why
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thechromatograph3r
Of course Twitter and Facebook knew. They don’t care because republican good 4 biznezz
RedMoonWarrior 7/12/2022 2:22 PM
Exactly
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They're like any other company: profit above all else.
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TheAnonymousDew 7/12/2022 2:22 PM
I think Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg should be considered accomplices
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RedMoonWarrior
Agreed. However, there is also the question of what should have they done, and why
TheAnonymousDew 7/12/2022 2:24 PM
Banned Trump and election deniers
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thechromatograph3r
Of course Twitter and Facebook knew. They don’t care because republican good 4 biznezz
WojtektheBear 7/12/2022 2:25 PM
Yeah it was being organized on there (edited)
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TheAnonymousDew 7/12/2022 2:25 PM
And since Twitter knew and did nothing, they were complicit
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NordicThor_ 7/12/2022 2:26 PM
Former Oathkeeper is coming up, and someone else who was at the capitol
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TheAnonymousDew
Banned Trump and election deniers
RedMoonWarrior 7/12/2022 2:27 PM
Yes. But consider this: they have to then apply the same standard to everyone else to maintain their image of non-bias. Then, majority of their platform would be removed, since they thrive off nuts.
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HLMenckenFan 7/12/2022 2:28 PM
They're referencing the Turner Diaries (day of the rope)
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RedMoonWarrior
Yes. But consider this: they have to then apply the same standard to everyone else to maintain their image of non-bias. Then, majority of their platform would be removed, since they thrive off nuts.
thechromatograph3r 7/12/2022 2:29 PM
Simple solution: delete Twitter kek
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thechromatograph3r
Simple solution: delete Twitter kek
RedMoonWarrior 7/12/2022 2:29 PM
Not a bad idea
2:29 PM
Net positive
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Plus, it frees up that prime real estate on Market Street for housing
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WojtektheBear 7/12/2022 2:30 PM
I actually have a friends who work and live and in DC. I remember calling the one who worked on the Hill on January 3rd, I begged him to fake a COVID diagnosis. That they could breach the building and that he was queer and might not be safe. He didn’t listen, “the barricades will hold” he said. Those words legitimately haunt me. The worst part? The rep he was working for voted to decertify AZ while the blood wasn’t dry snd glass shards scattered everywhere. Very important formative moment for me personally. I guilted myself for months after that, I thought I had let my friend down. It was only when I realized that Trump WANTED counter protests so that his people could get violent, blame it on the counter (muh Antifa provacateur) in order to invoke the Insurrection Act that I finally forgave myself. (edited)
2:31 PM
I know J6 affected all of us, but it’s deeply personal to me not only because of the above but because I had interned on the Hill the previous summer, still might wanna work there when I’m done with school.
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HLMenckenFan
They're referencing the Turner Diaries (day of the rope)
It’s unfortunate that they didn’t put that phrase into context, as it comes from the turner diaries which most audiences won’t know
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HLMenckenFan 7/12/2022 2:35 PM
I read the novel. It's the subject of a chapter.
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Struggles
It’s unfortunate that they didn’t put that phrase into context, as it comes from the turner diaries which most audiences won’t know
Audiences should be told the phrase comes from white supremacist literature
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HLMenckenFan 7/12/2022 2:36 PM
I don't need to describe the details of how it happened
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Struggles
Audiences should be told the phrase comes from white supremacist literature
TheAnonymousDew 7/12/2022 2:42 PM
A lot do know
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WojtektheBear 7/12/2022 2:51 PM
Sydney Powell just blabbing fucking nonsense to the committee investigators is actually pretty hilarious
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HLMenckenFan
I read the novel. It's the subject of a chapter.
RaiseRuntimeError 7/12/2022 3:03 PM
God damn, you have read everythng
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TheAnonymousDew 7/12/2022 3:11 PM
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Members of Congress named as co-conspirators to Trump's criminal conspiracy so far: @RepAndyBiggsAZ @RepMTG @RepMoBrooks @RepMattGaetz @replouiegohmert @RepGosar @Jim_Jordan @RepScottPerry Detailed by @DemocracyNowUS Jan6Justice https://t.co/vKYWKpCRW9
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WojtektheBear 7/12/2022 3:12 PM
Get fucked Tim
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3:12 PM
You know he’s gonna lose his shit over this
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thechromatograph3r 7/12/2022 3:13 PM
Oooh I missed some good shit
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NordicThor_ 7/12/2022 3:13 PM
I'd imagine it's safe to add Josh fucking Hawley to that list. Piece of human garbage, that dude.
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thechromatograph3r 7/12/2022 3:15 PM
NEW: Jan. 6 committee says that it was after Steve Bannon first spoke to Trump at 8:57am on Jan. 5 — per call records obtained by the panel — that he said on the War Room podcast: “All hell is going to break loose tomorrow”
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TheAnonymousDew 7/12/2022 3:37 PM
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RaiseRuntimeError 7/12/2022 3:38 PM
Mr. Ayres is too quite
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WojtektheBear 7/12/2022 3:42 PM
Holy shit who would have thought wife beater Brad Parscale would be a a small d democrat at the end of the day
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thechromatograph3r 7/12/2022 3:50 PM
Stephen Ayres said he wasn't planning to march on the Capitol until Trump spoke: "The president got everybody riled up and told everybody to head on down, so we basically were following what he said."
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thechromatograph3r 7/12/2022 4:18 PM
Jan. 6 defendant Ayres now embracing the Capitol Police and DC officers who defended the Capitol from a mob he was part of.
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WojtektheBear 7/12/2022 4:20 PM
Uhhh I’m definitely gonna have to finish this at home later
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thechromatograph3r 7/12/2022 4:31 PM
This fucker isn’t sorry. He’s just embarrassed he got caught
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thechromatograph3r
This fucker isn’t sorry. He’s just embarrassed he got caught
WojtektheBear 7/12/2022 4:33 PM
Yeah I was gonna say this looks fucking weird
4:34 PM
Incredible the kind of benefit of the doubt Whiteness provides
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thechromatograph3r 7/12/2022 4:36 PM
If he had been black, he would have been swiss-cheesed on the 6th.
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thechromatograph3r
This fucker isn’t sorry. He’s just embarrassed he got caught
RaiseRuntimeError 7/12/2022 4:54 PM
Looks like his wife wasnt having much of it ether
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Doesn't treason result in execution?
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Doesn't treason result in execution?
thechromatograph3r 7/12/2022 6:41 PM
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States. (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)
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It does seem that most of these chuds are getting hit with seditious conspiracy and not treason though. Treason, as far as I can tell, is usually reserved for literal wartime. But I'm not a lawyer so take that at what it's worth.
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TheAnonymousDew 7/12/2022 7:26 PM
Yes it is
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And Sedition still carries a heavy sentence
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20 years in prison
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thechromatograph3r 7/12/2022 7:39 PM
Yes. Let me clarify that J6 is more definitionally sedition/conspiracy, not treason. Treason is defined very specifically in the USC.
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thechromatograph3r
Yes. Let me clarify that J6 is more definitionally sedition/conspiracy, not treason. Treason is defined very specifically in the USC.
TheAnonymousDew 7/12/2022 9:33 PM
Though some of the conspirators may have ties to the Kremlin
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If those ties are confirmed, THEN that becomes treason (edited)
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Ayres is in full "cover ass, avoid federal prison at all costs" mode. Motherfucker only feels bad he got caught.
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TheAnonymousDew
If those ties are confirmed, THEN that becomes treason (edited)
thechromatograph3r 7/12/2022 10:28 PM
I believe that only applies in wartime
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HLMenckenFan 7/12/2022 10:38 PM
I'm horrified
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thechromatograph3r
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States. (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)
Interesting, damned shame that it was used against leftists and other people during the red scare who were more than likely innocent due to Mccarthyism(that's coming back) (edited)
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thechromatograph3r
Yes. Let me clarify that J6 is more definitionally sedition/conspiracy, not treason. Treason is defined very specifically in the USC.
Does alliance with Pakistan and Russian government officials not count as treason?
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Rudolph Yankenson 7/13/2022 6:40 AM
Just wanna put out there that the Oath keeper said, under oath, that the group wanted him to make a “deck of cards” of political enemies to kill.
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Rudolph Yankenson
Just wanna put out there that the Oath keeper said, under oath, that the group wanted him to make a “deck of cards” of political enemies to kill.
thechromatograph3r 7/13/2022 7:47 AM
But since they’re right-wing extremists, nothing will happen
8:05 AM
r/Libertarian is discussing January 6. I'm wrong thinking the mods would remove info about it.
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HLMenckenFan
r/Libertarian is discussing January 6. I'm wrong thinking the mods would remove info about it.
thechromatograph3r 7/13/2022 8:53 AM
Bruh. The argument is fracturing the sub
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HLMenckenFan 7/13/2022 8:57 AM
Yes. The subreddit is poorly moderated
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thechromatograph3r
Bruh. The argument is fracturing the sub
HLMenckenFan 7/13/2022 10:53 AM
i wish I could comment
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HLMenckenFan 7/13/2022 12:39 PM
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Not only threatened democracy, it paved a path for others to follow and craft
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HLMenckenFan 7/13/2022 12:50 PM
I posted the article on r/LibertarianUncensored. There are plenty of other places (edited)
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Is it still hard to join r/conservative?
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Not only threatened democracy, it paved a path for others to follow and craft
HLMenckenFan 7/13/2022 12:51 PM
He is enabling the next authoritarian who will be far more competent
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birb
Is it still hard to join r/conservative?
HLMenckenFan 7/13/2022 12:52 PM
You can join, but I bet you will be permabanned in under a month
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FrEe SpeEcH
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HLMenckenFan 7/13/2022 1:27 PM
Ironic
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I know
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It happened to me.
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HLMenckenFan
Ironic
Dr_Diskette 7/13/2022 1:29 PM
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HLMenckenFan 7/13/2022 2:04 PM
Star Wars is a great film series
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HLMenckenFan 7/13/2022 3:53 PM
I've seen all the major films
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HLMenckenFan 7/13/2022 8:02 PM
Damn
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HLMenckenFan 7/13/2022 8:13 PM
A Maryland man who shoved a police officer with a lacrosse stick attached to a Confederate battle flag during the U.S. Capitol riot has been sentenced to five months in prison.
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All these slaps on the wrist piss me off
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HLMenckenFan 7/13/2022 8:28 PM
Me too
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thechromatograph3r 7/13/2022 10:47 PM
My hope is that they're building up to something really, really big.
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RaiseRuntimeError 7/13/2022 10:53 PM
New: Jan. 6 committee is considering a “second series of hearings” sometime towards the end of August, after next week’s prime time finale on Thursday, per source familiar.
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My hope is that they're building up to something really, really big.
HLMenckenFan 7/13/2022 10:56 PM
Like an actual coup
10:57 PM
The storming of the Capitol could have been phase one
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We can only speculate
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thechromatograph3r 7/13/2022 10:58 PM
A Fulton County Superior Court judge has ordered Lindsey Graham to testify in front of the special grand jury in Georgia investigating Trump's attempts to overturn the 2020 election.
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HLMenckenFan
The storming of the Capitol could have been phase one
It was a failed coup. Period. But they'll try again
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The difference between the failed coup here and in every other nation where one has happened: the perpetrators, except for one, are all alive and well.
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Doctor Eval 7/15/2022 9:01 AM
I predict that Trump will be indicted on or before August 1
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15 days
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I hope they have all their ducks in a row if they do
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Doctor Eval
I predict that Trump will be indicted on or before August 1
thechromatograph3r 7/15/2022 9:09 AM
Wishful thinking. I don’t think he’ll ever be indicted. (edited)
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thechromatograph3r
Wishful thinking. I don’t think he’ll ever be indicted. (edited)
Doctor Eval 7/15/2022 9:10 AM
I don't think DOJ has a choice anymore
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Doctor Eval
I don't think DOJ has a choice anymore
WojtektheBear 7/15/2022 12:19 PM
Yeah the hearings have been damning, I don’t really see the point of them if this doesn’t happen
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Braakinthesaddle 7/15/2022 12:30 PM
I read that they are planning another series of hearings for later this year. Can't find the source where I read it tho 😔
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WojtektheBear
Yeah the hearings have been damning, I don’t really see the point of them if this doesn’t happen
thechromatograph3r 7/15/2022 1:29 PM
[In a gentle NPR voice] Because Democrats would rather move on and heal instead of drag this out.
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Braakinthesaddle
I read that they are planning another series of hearings for later this year. Can't find the source where I read it tho 😔
RaiseRuntimeError 7/15/2022 1:34 PM
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Braakinthesaddle 7/15/2022 1:35 PM
Lol I saw that tweet earlier but you beat me to posting it
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TheAnonymousDew 7/15/2022 7:15 PM
Item for future generations about 2022: "A nonprofit led by...Trump cabinet member and World Wrestling Entertainment executive Linda McMahon, has essentially assembled a shadow government for Trump--or, potentially, any other Republican who takes the White House," says Bloomberg.
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Is this even legal? No I'm serious is this s--- even legal?
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TheAnonymousDew 7/15/2022 8:02 PM
I'm not sure
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A shadow government in control of what exactly?
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HLMenckenFan 7/15/2022 10:02 PM
By Luke Broadwater
The House committee investigating the attack announced it would hold its next hearing on Thursday in prime time. It was not clear whether it would be the summer finale, as once expected.
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joe hill’s revenge 7/15/2022 11:23 PM
Do you guys think the Democrats will be willing to obstruct a Republican victory in November or 2024?
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11:24 PM
I could see them declaring the Republican (or certain pro insurrection ones) as anti American, and therefore ineligible to hold office.
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The cowards won't even obstruct Republicans now. All they do is verbally condemn and wring their hands and moan about reaching-across-the-aisle to shake hands with the fascists. (edited)
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11:47 PM
"I'm voting against the climate bill, because we should focus on the economy, not that I disagree with it or anything"
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I don't think there's more than one or two Democrats that would stand up and say or do the things that are necessary in order to absolutely ensure that the Republican party doesn't simply declare itself winner in every single race this November. Trump said a precedent. If you lose, attempt a coup. There's still been no consequences for the people who orchestrated it, only for those people who were actually inside the building or acted with violence in some way. And even then there's still interactionists walking around pretending like nothing happened, or that it was okay, or that there's some sort of awesome patriot or something. They have not been enough consequences giving out to enough people.
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Of course, if the Dems were particularly smart, they would drag the shit out until November. This has to stay fresh in people's minds all the way up until the election. Every Republican is running on the big lie platform needs to be called out, needs to be dragged in before the committee or the department of Justice, and consequences need to be handed out. If nothing happens then the entire federal government is just a waste. (edited)
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No, you want the hearings done, so DoJ can begin their criminal investigations well into November and beyond.
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The next red fuck to get into office will pardon trump anyways
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HLMenckenFan 7/16/2022 9:54 PM
r/CapitolConsequences is a good subreddit
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Post the posts here from that subreddit. They're worth reading (edited)
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Regnion
No, you want the hearings done, so DoJ can begin their criminal investigations well into November and beyond.
TheAnonymousDew 7/16/2022 9:58 PM
Except people's attention spans are short
9:59 PM
You need to keep this in the news cycle because American voters always tend to develop amnesia come election tine
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If the DOJ starts investigating, they can easily drop announcements on progress and prosecutions all the way through 2023.
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A "November surprise" would be trivial.
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HLMenckenFan
r/CapitolConsequences is a good subreddit
thechromatograph3r 7/17/2022 9:48 AM
Less than 10% of those arrested have been sentenced, and less than half of that have received jail time. I’m fucking sick of these slaps on the wrist. Most of these insurrectionists deserve 30 years behind bars
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HLMenckenFan 7/17/2022 9:52 AM
I think the guy who got arrested for 5 months for carrying a Confederate flag should deserve more years behind bars
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I think the guy who got arrested for 5 months for carrying a Confederate flag should deserve more years behind bars
thechromatograph3r 7/17/2022 5:19 PM
That shouldn’t be the reason. The reason should be for engaging in an insurrection
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HLMenckenFan 7/17/2022 5:35 PM
Of course. (edited)
5:36 PM
Our criminal justice system is terrible
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POC with weed? 1000 years in prison. White guy mass murdering? McD's and therapy.
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BLM march? Disappeared in unmarked cars. White boy coup? Say sorry, hold hat, hug cop.
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HLMenckenFan 7/18/2022 10:54 AM
It's all screwed up
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birb
The next red fuck to get into office will pardon trump anyways
I dont think you can pardon people for insurrection, can you?
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Snaggy
I dont think you can pardon people for insurrection, can you?
thechromatograph3r 7/18/2022 4:22 PM
Can’t a sitting president pardon whomever he wants for whatever crime he wants, so long as it’s a federal crime?
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Can’t a sitting president pardon whomever he wants for whatever crime he wants, so long as it’s a federal crime?
I think for when it's a severe crime or destruction of their gov or treason they can't
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Everything else is free reign
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I think for when it's a severe crime or destruction of their gov or treason they can't
A border patrol agent was pardoned after he killed an innocent man. That's a pretty severe crime. Not sure about the other stuff. The power of Google is there but I'm lazy.
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birb
A border patrol agent was pardoned after he killed an innocent man. That's a pretty severe crime. Not sure about the other stuff. The power of Google is there but I'm lazy.
Nah for a 1× murder they can get pardoned :/ ik that much
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thechromatograph3r 7/19/2022 3:25 PM
The Secret Service appears to have violated federal criminal law by destroying texts from Jan. 5 and 6, 2021 after receiving a request for records related to the insurrection from DHS's Inspector General, according to a complaint sent by CREW to the DOJ. https://t.co/2DHWU8UZeb
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The scope of the Fulton County grand jury probe into Trump’s attempt to overturn the 2020 election came into clearer focus as court filings indicate that at least a dozen phony Georgia GOP electors have been told they could face criminal charges. #gapol https://t.co/Klei4wIyjN
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joe hill’s revenge 7/20/2022 12:44 PM
What annoys me are Republicans who support the election fraud myth, but then won’t say January 6 was justified. Cause if they did steal it, any means necessary are justified to overturn
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What annoys me are Republicans who support the election fraud myth, but then won’t say January 6 was justified. Cause if they did steal it, any means necessary are justified to overturn
A political clusterfuck 7/20/2022 12:48 PM
because those ones dont actually support it. they claim they do to stay in power
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the ones who say it was justified DO actually support it
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 6:24 PM
Breaking: DHS Inspector General announces that the investigation of SS deleted texts is now a criminal investigation.
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As someone who buys into the “secret service accidentally shot JFK Theory” this is wild to me
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It is crazy. Even Mother Pence knew better not to get in the car on Jan 6. They need to flush out the Secret Service but I'm sure that would be difficult
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 7:35 PM
@everyone a reminder that the last J6 hearing for the summer is on at 8pm EST, I’ll be watching live but I’m commuting through the early part. Live discussion of that can and should happen here! If I understand it correctly this week’s hearing will be about Trump’s culpability specifically
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Oh god
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It's going to be JUICE
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Here's to hoping they actually do something
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Oh boy let’s go
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WojtektheBear
@everyone a reminder that the last J6 hearing for the summer is on at 8pm EST, I’ll be watching live but I’m commuting through the early part. Live discussion of that can and should happen here! If I understand it correctly this week’s hearing will be about Trump’s culpability specifically
Braakinthesaddle 7/21/2022 7:36 PM
I will have to watch after work tonight
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Aces high
Here's to hoping they actually do something
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 7:36 PM
I also think there’s work we can do to push them but I’m not sure what that looks like yet
7:37 PM
I’ve been surprisingly whitepilled that the hearings can at least move the needle a bit
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It should start at 8EST
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 7:37 PM
Yep
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ima go make some food so ill brb
7:37 PM
neeed popcorn
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AmateurContendr 7/21/2022 7:42 PM
These hearings have unironically been so entertaining.
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 7:43 PM
Dystopian-ly but appropriately so
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AmateurContendr 7/21/2022 7:43 PM
It's like a mob drama but irl
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AmateurContendr
It's like a mob drama but irl
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 7:45 PM
Also a really dark comedy
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AmateurContendr 7/21/2022 7:45 PM
Fr
7:46 PM
I remember watching the Jan 6 stuff unfolding live thinking it couldn't get worse but I was dead wrong as I'm finding out.
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AmateurContendr
I remember watching the Jan 6 stuff unfolding live thinking it couldn't get worse but I was dead wrong as I'm finding out.
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 7:47 PM
Oh friend we live in the Century of Catastrophe, it can always get worse!
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AmateurContendr 7/21/2022 7:47 PM
That's the moto of the era for sure.
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 7:47 PM
I’m not necessarily blackpilled but you’re a fool if you think otherwise (edited)
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AmateurContendr 7/21/2022 7:47 PM
*motto?
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Yo trump asked for all metal detectors to be removed
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birb
Yo trump asked for all metal detectors to be removed
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 7:53 PM
The mob was a weapon and he was trying to sharpen it real good
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MrsKawasaki 7/21/2022 7:57 PM
Should be interesting
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“That could be season 2.” Just… idk man. Shits whack
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I can’t believe Tim pool and salty cracker are part of a congressional investigation
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WattAGame
“That could be season 2.” Just… idk man. Shits whack
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 8:04 PM
Season Finale for American Democracy god reality fucking rules
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8:05 PM
“May you live in interesting times” fuck you
8:07 PM
So it’s a timeline of Trump’s inaction, neat.
WojtektheBear pinned a message to this channel. 7/21/2022 8:08 PM
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 8:12 PM
You know I think it’s underrated how important it is that a Black man from Missouri was Chairman here, we know what happened the last time American democracy fell to internal enemies
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He’s mentioned it once or twice but I wish they talked about reconstruction more
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Looks like we are going to get more
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 8:14 PM
Holy shit they’re taking august recess off to investigate more most of you aren’t DC people but that actually means a lot, at least tu me. And how threatened the feel about the potential new Congress
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Liz Cheney is a fucking badass
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 8:15 PM
The GOP will fucking kill the report and everything else if they can they’re up against the clock
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birb
Liz Cheney is a fucking badass
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 8:15 PM
Really hate how fucking true that is in this specific instance but we can unpack this later she’s a good orator
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WojtektheBear
Really hate how fucking true that is in this specific instance but we can unpack this later she’s a good orator
Agreed. She is still a Republican but holy shit she has been out for blood.
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birb
Agreed. She is still a Republican but holy shit she has been out for blood.
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 8:17 PM
Dick Cheney reborn
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I feel part of this was what trump said about him after he passed
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it pissed her the fuck off
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birb
I feel part of this was what trump said about him after he passed
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 8:19 PM
You mean McCain right?
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LMAO
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 8:19 PM
K for a sec I was gonna say “trust me I would have celebrated” if he croaked (edited)
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Dick Cheney that is
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Cheney is the one who tried killing Harry
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WojtektheBear
K for a sec I was gonna say “trust me I would have celebrated” if he croaked (edited)
LMAO
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 8:23 PM
DJT’s fucking seething if he’s seen Cheney’s speech im 10 minutes behind
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Lol
8:25 PM
Compete with China
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Yeah buddy
8:25 PM
The koolaid
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thechromatograph3r 7/21/2022 8:28 PM
“[Trump] didn’t fail to act. […] He chose not to act.” ~Adam Kinzinger (R-IL)
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“[Trump] didn’t fail to act. […] He chose not to act.” ~Adam Kinzinger (R-IL)
StrideyTidey 7/21/2022 8:29 PM
Great quote
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AmateurContendr
That's the moto of the era for sure.
YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 8:30 PM
I've been using "the Age without Consequences" for a few years now
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“[Trump] didn’t fail to act. […] He chose not to act.” ~Adam Kinzinger (R-IL)
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 8:34 PM
Dishonor and Dereliction of Duty goes hard as fuck I’ll buy that shirt
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 8:38 PM
This is the first time I've watched the hearings, I take it the content isn't announced in advance (other than the highest level)? So, the country is watching braced for surprises?
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WattAGame
Compete with China
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 8:38 PM
God can he not choke on Trump’s entire cock ‘n’ balls Jesus Christ
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Apparently not
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker
This is the first time I've watched the hearings, I take it the content isn't announced in advance (other than the highest level)? So, the country is watching braced for surprises?
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 8:39 PM
Usually the day before some of the basic content it made public
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But they do leave surprises yeah
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 8:46 PM
I kind of hate that I think Adam Kinzinger is attractive lol
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 8:46 PM
Retired DC cop is peak “I’m too old for this shit” (edited)
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 8:47 PM
RIght now it's Cassidy Hutchinson, I'm guessing my feed is behind yours?
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker
I kind of hate that I think Adam Kinzinger is attractive lol
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 8:47 PM
Look I’m straight as fuck but that man is a dream boat
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8:48 PM
He’s the military officer Stars and Stripes thing going too like I’m sorry but homeboy can get it
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Just not from me lmao
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 8:48 PM
Bahahah!
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 8:52 PM
Goddamnit my chromecast is acting the fuck up
8:52 PM
That photo of him in the oval is crazy
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Have you tried turning it off and on?
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 8:53 PM
Genuinely villainous shit
8:53 PM
I was fucking with it yesterday and I reset it with the app and it still wasn’t working
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Shit I’m shocked it’s working now
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NGL they dispersed super quick with the smoke. I mean smart but also dang
8:58 PM
At least 1/3 no longer in formation
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 8:58 PM
I couldn't really tell, the capitol police lit the smoke grenade or the invaders?
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WattAGame
At least 1/3 no longer in formation
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 8:58 PM
They would have been crushed in the hour if Trump had turned
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 9:01 PM
My god....
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“All million of us” fucking larpers
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9:02 PM
“Several hundred thousand people”
9:03 PM
Bro touch grass and learn math.
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Fuck (edited)
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 9:03 PM
touch grass?
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker
I couldn't really tell, the capitol police lit the smoke grenade or the invaders?
Looked like maybe the dude with the fire extinguisher caused that smoke
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Just like - get outside of your own home for a bit
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 9:03 PM
Ahhh hahah
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Doctor Eval 7/21/2022 9:06 PM
Tens of hundreds of millions of magats
9:07 PM
I predicted that DOJ will indict on or before aug 1
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I'm hoping I'm right
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I predicted that DOJ will indict on or before aug 1
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 9:08 PM
With the way people are starting to sing? God I hope so
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 9:08 PM
I can't help but think Garland won't do it
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker
I can't help but think Garland won't do it
Doctor Eval 7/21/2022 9:09 PM
I don't think he has a choice
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 9:09 PM
Yeah especially after tonight
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Doctor Eval 7/21/2022 9:10 PM
The evidence in the public sphere is overwhelming
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 9:10 PM
if this is for anyone it's ole' Merrick
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 9:10 PM
Honestly I figure he's fucked either way, there is no safe call to make. So hopefully he sides on the team of justice but...
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker
Honestly I figure he's fucked either way, there is no safe call to make. So hopefully he sides on the team of justice but...
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 9:10 PM
nah the unsafe call is doing nothing
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We should start preparing now to hit the streets if they don't prosecute. The people have to put the pressure on
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Doctor Eval 7/21/2022 9:11 PM
This is definitely a fucked situation. Merrick Garland is in a terrible spot. The political calculation that has been made over and over again is that if they indict, it might cause nationwide violence. If they don't, there's going to be another j6.
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 9:11 PM
Do nothing and the liberals go crazy, do something and the magats go crazy, no?
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Doctor Eval 7/21/2022 9:11 PM
Yeah
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 9:11 PM
Yeah and you know they won't hold back if there's another J6
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Fuck Jared Kushner
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Doctor Eval 7/21/2022 9:11 PM
But frankly, worrying about another violent insurrection if you bring charges against the head of the last insurrection is a terrible reason not to prosecute
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 9:12 PM
yeah camp lol "I guess so" or "I think so" whatever he said. Milquetoast.
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker
Do nothing and the liberals go crazy, do something and the magats go crazy, no?
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 9:12 PM
those are exactly the people they should be pissing off they're fucking terrorists in waiting
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His demeanor during that interview
9:12 PM
fuck that piece of shit
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But frankly, worrying about another violent insurrection if you bring charges against the head of the last insurrection is a terrible reason not to prosecute
YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 9:12 PM
NO argument from me! I think... Biden is such an establishment figure I rather imagine him privately pleading not to prosecute for some reason.
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 9:12 PM
there very well could be violence over indicting trump, let them come and put them down you're the fucking state for fuck's sake
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Doctor Eval 7/21/2022 9:13 PM
Honestly, if indicting Trump means that I have to lose a few bullets, I'm here for it
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 9:13 PM
I picture Biden rather wishing this would all go away and let him get on with his term or something.
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker
I picture Biden rather wishing this would all go away and let him get on with his term or something.
Doctor Eval 7/21/2022 9:13 PM
Yeah that sounds like some moderate bullshit that would happen
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CaulPartBallMop 7/21/2022 9:13 PM
Me in my trailer park sweating lol
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CaulPartBallMop
Me in my trailer park sweating lol
I don't have 3K rounds of 556 for show
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WojtektheBear
there very well could be violence over indicting trump, let them come and put them down you're the fucking state for fuck's sake
YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 9:14 PM
To be sure, I agree with you and I'm saying this more out of sardonic anger, but "there are fine people on both sides" and hey like 15% of police and military are on their side.
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker
To be sure, I agree with you and I'm saying this more out of sardonic anger, but "there are fine people on both sides" and hey like 15% of police and military are on their side.
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 9:14 PM
Yeah no doubt lot of dangerous motherfuckers could go gamer over this
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 9:14 PM
I'm sorry for my cluelessness tonight, go gamer?
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birb
I don't have 3K rounds of 556 for show
CaulPartBallMop 7/21/2022 9:15 PM
I have three dollars
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Fucking Maddow god dammit
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CaulPartBallMop
I have three dollars
Doctor Eval 7/21/2022 9:15 PM
That's like 8 rounds of 5.56 my man
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GTFOOOOOOOO
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Doctor Eval
Honestly, if indicting Trump means that I have to lose a few bullets, I'm here for it
YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 9:15 PM
Maddow?
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker
I'm sorry for my cluelessness tonight, go gamer?
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 9:15 PM
gamer rage, "in minecraft"= go apeshit IR
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 9:15 PM
Ahhh!
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Thank you Wojtek
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WattAGame
GTFOOOOOOOO
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 9:16 PM
what I miss Cipollone is still talking on mine
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WattAGame
Fucking Maddow god dammit
Doctor Eval 7/21/2022 9:16 PM
Watch cspan
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Lemme get cspan up
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Thanks @birb
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RaiseRuntimeError 7/21/2022 9:16 PM
I watch the January 6th YouTube
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 9:16 PM
Cassidy Hutchinson could make me a con tbh
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I didn’t wanna say nothing but wanted to be part of the community stream.
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Channel 3 gang here
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 9:16 PM
this is not relevant she's just up on mine
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 9:17 PM
Ah
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There ya go
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Doctor Eval 7/21/2022 9:17 PM
Cassidy Hutchinson is a tool of Trump's Whitehouse, but at least she has a fucking conscience
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🙌🏼❤️
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Steve Mike
Channel 3 gang here
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 9:17 PM
PBS Newshour or death
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I meant to switch over when it started. MAH BAD
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 9:17 PM
I fucking love Judy Woodruff
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Cassidy Hutchinson is a tool of Trump's Whitehouse, but at least she has a fucking conscience
RaiseRuntimeError 7/21/2022 9:17 PM
Not enough people with a conscience
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Doctor Eval 7/21/2022 9:18 PM
I always watch congressional hearings on cspan. No ads, no commentary, just that sweet sweet parliamentary procedure
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Cassidy Hutchinson is a tool of Trump's Whitehouse, but at least she has a fucking conscience
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 9:18 PM
also as someone who was in DC for a time, she's basically torched a whole alternate life for herself
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also as someone who was in DC for a time, she's basically torched a whole alternate life for herself
Doctor Eval 7/21/2022 9:18 PM
Oh yeah, she's done. She snitched on Daddy
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 9:19 PM
I like public news and grew up on newshour but C-SPAN is the other s-tier choice
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Wow you guys Fox is not showing the hearing at all!!!
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That's like 8 rounds of 5.56 my man
CaulPartBallMop 7/21/2022 9:19 PM
I do have a hammer too. Now if I just set up some sort of pulley system... 🤔
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 9:19 PM
ABC cucks are encouraged to leave
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Steve Mike
Wow you guys Fox is not showing the hearing at all!!!
You are telling me the number one news network for conservatives, republicans, and democrats are not showing the hearing???
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Steve Mike
Wow you guys Fox is not showing the hearing at all!!!
RaiseRuntimeError 7/21/2022 9:20 PM
What about NewsMax?
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Hmmm let's check
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NOPE
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They actually ran an ad that said that on siriusxm
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Number one news network for conservatives, republicans, and democrats
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about drove off the road laughing
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Doctor Eval 7/21/2022 9:21 PM
I find it a little bit unfortunate that nobody's talked about the fact that the only day of the year where the next three successors in line for the presidency are in the same place at the same time is January 6th on an election year
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 9:22 PM
It's crazy how Meadows basically slow walked being a fascist
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Doctor Eval 7/21/2022 9:22 PM
And the reality that if the insurrectionists were successful, and they killed Mike pence and Nancy pelosi, they would have killed the next to immediate people in the line of succession
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 9:22 PM
like he wasn't enthused but he couldn't be bothered to grow a spine
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Doctor Eval 7/21/2022 9:23 PM
And also the fact that if you wanted to commit a successful coup against the government of the United States, January 6th of an election year would be the only viable time to do it
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WojtektheBear
like he wasn't enthused but he couldn't be bothered to grow a spine
Haha like a dad whose kids have just sapped him dry
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Look at these piranas
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They are multiplying
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Look at these piranas
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 9:25 PM
it's Washington mate I'd rather they be filming
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Kinzinger just dropped an F bomb
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker
I kind of hate that I think Adam Kinzinger is attractive lol
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 9:27 PM
I CAN'T NOT NOTICE THIS NOW LOL
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NOICE
9:27 PM
lol
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RaiseRuntimeError 7/21/2022 9:29 PM
"this is one you go to the mattresses on." What the hell does that mean?
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Suppose to be go to the mat
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You have sex to think about it? I have no fucking clue...
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Like wrestling but that guy is too dumb
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9:31 PM
Lol I'm loving this shit rn
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Crackin another beer
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CaulPartBallMop 7/21/2022 9:32 PM
Holy shit can't even answer a straight forward question on that one
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Steve Mike
Crackin another beer
Same
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CaulPartBallMop
Holy shit can't even answer a straight forward question on that one
Everyone except the president? “Privilege” ☠🤣
9:33 PM
Like - okay buddy
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CaulPartBallMop 7/21/2022 9:33 PM
"you said staff" DAWG!
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It’s that kind of hand wringing that will doom the democracy as a whole
9:33 PM
Like come ON
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You are being given a GIMMY question.
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CaulPartBallMop 7/21/2022 9:34 PM
interviewer clarifies question Looks at lawyer This is like if a friend of mine got caught with fireworks or something when I was a kid
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“He is not leaving office” bro they had no planning and thought they’ve topple it all. They got so fucking close
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Crackin another beer
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 9:38 PM
same g
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that oathkeeper audio
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wabisabilover 7/21/2022 9:38 PM
“Tear gas in the rotunda” … the thing that shocks me most is that only one of those traitors got shot.
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For real
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that oathkeeper audio
wabisabilover 7/21/2022 9:39 PM
“OUR side”. Jesus h Christ
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@wabisabilover because they were all right-wingers. BLM bodies would have littered the streets if it had been the other way around.
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This is why we have such an uphill battle. We have to oppose the chuds and the cops
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@wabisabilover because they were all right-wingers. BLM bodies would have littered the streets if it had been the other way around.
wabisabilover 7/21/2022 9:41 PM
Flashbacks to the George Floyd protests in 2020. If we’d fought the cops like that they would have gone absolutely nuts
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This is why we have such an uphill battle. We have to oppose the chuds and the cops
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 9:41 PM
and the sheriffs, and chunks of the security state and their homies in suits
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WojtektheBear
and the sheriffs, and chunks of the security state and their homies in suits
wabisabilover 7/21/2022 9:42 PM
Can’t trust them to defend the constitution for sure
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WojtektheBear
and the sheriffs, and chunks of the security state and their homies in suits
"So you're saying there's a chance..."
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Lloyd
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 9:43 PM
yes!
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RaiseRuntimeError
"this is one you go to the mattresses on." What the hell does that mean?
YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 9:43 PM
The term was used in either a Godfather movie or the Last Don. The idea is when you go to the mattresses, you throw mattresses on the floor for your mob soldiers to sleep on, so they are ready immediately when needed. It's a war footing in mob terms
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thechromatograph3r 7/21/2022 9:43 PM
Holy
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Fucking
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Shit
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Those Oathbreakers walkie-talkie audio clips
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 9:44 PM
Where are you hearing them?
9:44 PM
Damn it was that while I was in the bathroom lolol
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thechromatograph3r 7/21/2022 9:45 PM
I’m about 10-20 min behind
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker
The term was used in either a Godfather movie or the Last Don. The idea is when you go to the mattresses, you throw mattresses on the floor for your mob soldiers to sleep on, so they are ready immediately when needed. It's a war footing in mob terms
wabisabilover 7/21/2022 9:46 PM
“Mattresses “ are places to lay a body. It’s in the first movie as they’re preparing for a war and need places to hide bodies. “Take it to the mattresses “ means kill your enemies.
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 9:46 PM
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Doctor Eval 7/21/2022 9:47 PM
Kushner is a fucking sociopath
9:47 PM
Something is wrong with that guy
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 9:47 PM
Yeah. You can see it in his dead soulless eyes
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BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 9:47 PM
Either definition implies a serious fucking problem
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 9:48 PM
Actually, as I heard it, it was a good thing. He told Mark Meadows to hold no restraint in getting Trump to stop it
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker
Yeah. You can see it in his dead soulless eyes
wabisabilover 7/21/2022 9:48 PM
Like his criminal daddy
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Doctor Eval
Something is wrong with that guy
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 9:48 PM
yeah his utter detachment from everything, some american psycho shit
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wabisabilover
Like his criminal daddy
Doctor Eval 7/21/2022 9:48 PM
No, Trump is an emotional monster. A sad, angry, loveless child. Kushner is the opposite
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 9:49 PM
A sad angry loveless adult?
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Doctor Eval 7/21/2022 9:49 PM
A cold, emotionless stone
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 9:49 PM
Oh!
9:49 PM
Oh, you know, yes
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BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 9:49 PM
Being able to morally detach yourself is how you get to the places Kushner got
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No, Trump is an emotional monster. A sad, angry, loveless child. Kushner is the opposite
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 9:49 PM
yeah trump has deep seated issues and kushner is a spoiled psycho
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 9:49 PM
I hadn't thought of it that way before, but you are right, he is just stone cold and unemotional
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BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 9:50 PM
Trump is more of a Homelander: a bottomless pit of insecurities that he’ll destroy anything to fill
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RaiseRuntimeError 7/21/2022 9:50 PM
Does C-SPAN have the sign language person?
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Doctor Eval 7/21/2022 9:51 PM
Trump is a classic example of an unloved, neglected child who had more money than attention growing up.
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BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 9:52 PM
That type of insecure is like being a crack addict chasing a high you can approach, but never reach
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Doctor Eval 7/21/2022 9:53 PM
Dude. One cop with an AR-15 could have fixed j6
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 9:53 PM
I realize this is a weird ass question, but Rep Luria there, she seems like she's wearing a tiny medal around her neck, anyone know what it is?
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“One good guy with a gun” if Uvalde is any sign cops are wholly ill-equipped to handle anything like this.
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Doctor Eval 7/21/2022 9:53 PM
I still don't understand why they weren't all summarily executed on the spot as an invading military force
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BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 9:53 PM
Maybe with a drum mag and sandbags; that’s still too many people
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Trump is a classic example of an unloved, neglected child who had more money than attention growing up.
RaiseRuntimeError 7/21/2022 9:54 PM
Most people who are malignant narcissists like Trump suffer mommy issues. Learned that from the book The Cult of Trump
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I still don't understand why they weren't all summarily executed on the spot as an invading military force
YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 9:54 PM
Becaue they were white, and because the cops were cavorting with them in the halls at times
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BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 9:54 PM
But even if they laid them out with a heavy MG nest, that probably would’ve just made them martyrs.
9:54 PM
I can tell you right now, they’d be dead if they had been left-wing
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I know I would have got my ass kicked but I kind of wished I could have been a Capitol Policeman that day, just to get to bash as many of those fuckers as possible
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BrutusBrutus
I can tell you right now, they’d be dead if they had been left-wing
Always are
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Steve Mike
I know I would have got my ass kicked but I kind of wished I could have been a Capitol Policeman that day, just to get to bash as many of those fuckers as possible
BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 9:56 PM
It wouldn’t be worth it, for that reason.
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Also talk about one of the hardest 27’s ever
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 9:56 PM
man the producer who made this needs the civilian medal thing and an emmy
9:56 PM
she's scared
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BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 9:56 PM
That type of engagement is pretty harrowing
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 9:56 PM
matthews
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Definitely scared.
9:57 PM
Just strange to see how age/working in government hits some people.
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 9:57 PM
she know's they're coming for her i hope she has security and a place to bug out too
9:57 PM
none of them are safe from a worse case scenario
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BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 9:57 PM
Her life will be a chase until the Trump cult is dead
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 9:58 PM
Especially if he's indicted (edited)
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I live-streamed that whole day. This is def some bad memories
10:00 PM
Fucking “landslide”
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WattAGame
I live-streamed that whole day. This is def some bad memories
I recorded everything from it
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BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 10:00 PM
People are telling me I’m paranoid for being armed less and less often
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WattAGame
I live-streamed that whole day. This is def some bad memories
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 10:00 PM
screamed at my mom
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BrutusBrutus
People are telling me I’m paranoid for being armed less and less often
Nah. People should feel silly for not wanting to be armed
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Seriously
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BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 10:01 PM
“I knew it would come to this… I knew. And no one believes me”
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Believed*
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WattAGame
I live-streamed that whole day. This is def some bad memories
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 10:02 PM
I was live from 2pm onwards but I knew what was happening almost immediately I was monitoring the situstion
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BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 10:02 PM
My girlfriend sent me the videos while I was at work.
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WojtektheBear
I was live from 2pm onwards but I knew what was happening almost immediately I was monitoring the situstion
Yeah I was on like 8 different sites tracking shit but watching CSPAN look absolutely bewildered was crazy.
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 10:02 PM
went to bed happy about georgia but early because i knew I'd need it
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This is cancer trying to take your democracy
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BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 10:04 PM
I will remember that day forever as well…
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 10:04 PM
goddamn clip show in the second half
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we all will
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BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 10:04 PM
And so will the country
10:05 PM
Speaking of which, be on the watch for gimmick accounts posting in left-wing spaces posing as left-wing people pushing for voter apathy.
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 10:05 PM
man rudy going all in on the coup thing is hilarious in a death of stalin absurd way
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He's a worthless washup turd from 9/11
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BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 10:06 PM
Rudy is both a coward and an idiot, and that combo usually gets you eaten.
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WojtektheBear
man rudy going all in on the coup thing is hilarious in a death of stalin absurd way
He saw that and Field Marshal Zhukov and was like, “that’s gonna be me, bitches.” (edited)
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 10:07 PM
wdym
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BrutusBrutus
Rudy is both a coward and an idiot, and that combo usually gets you eaten.
wabisabilover 7/21/2022 10:07 PM
Naw. His career eliminates idiocy and cowardice. This man is a traitor
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 10:07 PM
america's mayor heel turn lmfao
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10:08 PM
like you couldn't write this
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WattAGame
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Rudy in his dreams.
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WattAGame
Rudy in his dreams.
BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 10:08 PM
That, and fucking a teenage intern.
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BrutusBrutus
That, and fucking a teenage intern.
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Rudy and the "clown car"!
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Steve Mike
Rudy and the "clown car"!
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 10:12 PM
ikr fantastic
10:13 PM
excellent witness question
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BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 10:13 PM
Our politics, at this point, is a fucking circus, so it’s fitting
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 10:13 PM
Truth
10:14 PM
I foolishly paused it while in the bathroom so I'm like 5 minutes behind
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 10:14 PM
panem et circenses
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Bro cannot stop sucking that dick
10:14 PM
Good lord
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Ugh this dude can stfu
10:15 PM
Auditioning for his next job
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WattAGame
Good lord
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 10:15 PM
gay🥵
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WojtektheBear
gay🥵
I mean I’m Beyond okay with that but don’t be a witness and slobbing on that knob.
10:16 PM
… on that note what is it with conservative women and thin lips?
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WattAGame
I mean I’m Beyond okay with that but don’t be a witness and slobbing on that knob.
thechromatograph3r 7/21/2022 10:17 PM
Cursed statement
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BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 10:17 PM
To be fair, it’s not a lot of area for his mouth to cover
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I’m not saying I’m just saying.
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WattAGame
… on that note what is it with conservative women and thin lips?
thechromatograph3r 7/21/2022 10:17 PM
I didn’t know that was a thing
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WattAGame
… on that note what is it with conservative women and thin lips?
I said the same thing earlier, just about her in general
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I mean I’m willing to accept that it isn’t, but I think it’s a fact.
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WattAGame
… on that note what is it with conservative women and thin lips?
BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 10:18 PM
Because conservative men have small penises
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Hahaaha holy shit
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BrutusBrutus
People are telling me I’m paranoid for being armed less and less often
thechromatograph3r 7/21/2022 10:18 PM
I carry literally everywhere that doesn’t have metal detectors, sniffer dogs, or a giant magnet (like our NMR spectrometer)
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Listen to this dummy
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I don’t want to be misogynistic but I get the feeling that conservative women do not as a general rule have DSL. And that’s a failure of national policy.
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I wish I could watch trump watch this right now
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Lol Jesus grandpa (edited)
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I bet he is near stroke
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Fucking read the script
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prob punching a pillow
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TheAnonymousDew 7/21/2022 10:19 PM
More like "I'm so fucked"
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Stable genius
10:19 PM
I'm dead
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4D chess
10:20 PM
He so mad he had to admit he’s wrong
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God that’s, long term, fucking nice to see
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TheAnonymousDew 7/21/2022 10:20 PM
^
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Trump's furious
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And is probably shitting his pants
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WattAGame
I don’t want to be misogynistic but I get the feeling that conservative women do not as a general rule have DSL. And that’s a failure of national policy.
thechromatograph3r 7/21/2022 10:20 PM
DSL?
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Hamburger launched
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BOY SHUT THE FUCK UPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
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thechromatograph3r
DSL?
Dick-sucking-lips
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TheAnonymousDew
And is probably shitting his pants
thechromatograph3r 7/21/2022 10:21 PM
Or throwing his ketchup-covered well-done steak at a wall
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Or throwing his ketchup-covered well-done steak at a wall
BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 10:21 PM
Everything about that is sinful
10:22 PM
Hank Hill shed a tear
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“Propane can’t fix this problem.”
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“Or, not the amount I can get from Strickland’s.”
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BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 10:22 PM
He would politely, but firmly, ask him to leave.
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The idea of a pro-democracy king of the hill episode would be such a salve for my soul.
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TheAnonymousDew 7/21/2022 10:23 PM
Hank would HATE Trump
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BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 10:23 PM
I think Johnny2Cellos did a video on why Hank wouldn’t tolerate Trump
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TheAnonymousDew 7/21/2022 10:24 PM
Hank would hold his nose and vote Biden
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BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 10:24 PM
My grandpa is basically a Midwest-style Hank Hill and switched parties because of Trump
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Depending on if he voted before I’d bet he chose to not vote at all.
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 10:24 PM
natsec guy was sweet
10:24 PM
based dare i say
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BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 10:25 PM
…and Charlottesville. Nazis need to grfo if America 🇺🇸
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Gtfo*
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Fuuuuuuucking gotta get the pro cop message in there
10:26 PM
They should be commemorated. But c’mon.
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BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 10:27 PM
Yeah… welcome to America’s bad spots
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It’s nothing but a condemnation of the failure to give them backup.
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BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 10:27 PM
The cops who did stay and not help the fucking rioters were honorable, though, even if I don’t trust cops
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TheAnonymousDew 7/21/2022 10:27 PM
I mean the Capitol Police for once did their jobs
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They fired far too few bullets
10:28 PM
But ostensibly you’re correct.
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WattAGame
They fired far too few bullets
BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 10:28 PM
That’s a hard call. Killing them could martyr them
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And the right already martyred the one woman who was killed while assaulting an officer
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If every cop is antifa I’d be happy
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WattAGame
If every cop is antifa I’d be happy
BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 10:28 PM
Me too
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I was gonna say Ashley babit is already a champion of idk what (edited)
10:29 PM
Fascism. I guess.
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TheAnonymousDew 7/21/2022 10:29 PM
Ashley Babbit played a stupid game and won a stupid prize
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BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 10:29 PM
Hell, I considered working in law enforcement, at one point, but hate the culture and corruption
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 10:29 PM
look the cop stuff is necessary moderate stuff and also shows they were a lawless mob from the start
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I became a firefighter instead.
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BrutusBrutus
That’s a hard call. Killing them could martyr them
wabisabilover 7/21/2022 10:30 PM
Attempt to overthrow the government is one of those rare instances when law enforcement should shoot any who rush forward
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True
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TheAnonymousDew 7/21/2022 10:30 PM
She breached the FUCKING Capitol Building in an attempt to overthow the government and destroy 200+ years of American democratic tradition (edited)
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Ashley Babbit played a stupid game and won a stupid prize
I was watching it happen live and they showed her getting rolled out on the stretcher, dead as fuck bleeding out her neck, and the news anchor was like what the fuck!?!?
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wabisabilover
Attempt to overthrow the government is one of those rare instances when law enforcement should shoot any who rush forward
BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 10:30 PM
They should have… but there’s always politics
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TheAnonymousDew 7/21/2022 10:30 PM
She breached the FUCKING Capitol Building in an attempt to overthow the government and destroy 200+ years of American democratic tradition, she got what she deserved
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BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 10:31 PM
She did
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Recommendations for laws?
10:31 PM
Oh shit
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That’s… new?
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TheAnonymousDew 7/21/2022 10:31 PM
Oh shit
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More should have followed
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TheAnonymousDew 7/21/2022 10:31 PM
This is a big one
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And also bad for leftist organizers
10:31 PM
But it’s better than fascist overlords
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TheAnonymousDew 7/21/2022 10:31 PM
Which is why most leftist organizers are morons
10:32 PM
I'm sorry but the truth is the truth
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Which is why most leftist organizers are morons
BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 10:33 PM
Unfortunately true. Also, “defund the police” was a slogan created by the right because they knew we’d use it, and the public would misinterpret it
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TheAnonymousDew 7/21/2022 10:33 PM
And the left tool the bait
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wabisabilover 7/21/2022 10:33 PM
Loved the Al for Gore reference. He went down easy for the good of the nation. Fucking horrible…until the alternative comes into focus
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*Al Gore
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TheAnonymousDew 7/21/2022 10:34 PM
Gore stood down and respected the law
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Even if he knew he won
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Gore didn't try to overthrow Democracy
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 10:34 PM
Luria's speech is really important
10:34 PM
plenty of people still did and still do have murder on their minds
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WojtektheBear
Luria's speech is really important
She’s really hammering the nail, glad to see it.
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TheAnonymousDew
Gore didn't try to overthrow Democracy
wabisabilover 7/21/2022 10:34 PM
He did win. He didn’t try to overthrow the Constitution (edited)
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 10:34 PM
including the president
10:35 PM
ex-preident
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wabisabilover
He did win. He didn’t try to overthrow the Constitution (edited)
TheAnonymousDew 7/21/2022 10:35 PM
That's the point
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WojtektheBear
including the president
10:35 PM
Jkjk ❤️
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TheAnonymousDew 7/21/2022 10:35 PM
Trump should be going to ADX Florence over this
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 10:35 PM
she's about to cry (edited)
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TheAnonymousDew 7/21/2022 10:36 PM
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I’m thankful to have you folks to throw around our anger
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 10:36 PM
luria
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wabisabilover 7/21/2022 10:36 PM
Anger? In vibrating.
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I mean same.
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wabisabilover
Anger? In vibrating.
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 10:36 PM
maybe lol
10:37 PM
one hopes
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WattAGame
I’m thankful to have you folks to throw around our anger
We are united for this reason
10:37 PM
Use this frustration to make progress
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 10:37 PM
you get the wall for this in civilized places
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50,60,70 lol SHOTS FIRED (edited)
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10:38 PM
Fuck you career Bureaucrats
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 10:38 PM
hey shay moss shout out we love to see it
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wabisabilover 7/21/2022 10:38 PM
We’ve barely begun to see the consequences of Jan 6. A lot more people are going to die before this is done. I wish it weren’t so, but nobody chooses how interesting you time will be
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Damn Cheney
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 10:38 PM
actually we should rewatch that one as a server
10:39 PM
to spur local action to protect your election workers
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10:39 PM
and to see the little people who get hurt
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Oh shit they brought THAT QUOTE up?
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BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 10:39 PM
Use anger to motivate
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WojtektheBear
to spur local action to protect your election workers
VDV Swim Squad Coach 7/21/2022 10:40 PM
election workers are fuckin saints man
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 10:40 PM
I've done it
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VDV Swim Squad Coach
election workers are fuckin saints man
BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 10:40 PM
Yes, so make sure people fucking vote
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HLMenckenFan 7/21/2022 10:40 PM
This hearing was essential
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VDV Swim Squad Coach 7/21/2022 10:40 PM
It may be a long and drawn out process, but god damn I am so glad to have the aus election commision running shit down under
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 10:40 PM
volunteer stuff but I still had to get up at like 5 and help the abuelitas
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VDV Swim Squad Coach 7/21/2022 10:41 PM
genuinely if there is one part of the australian democratic process that should be exported, its our electoral commission
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genuinely if there is one part of the australian democratic process that should be exported, its our electoral commission
WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 10:42 PM
explain Kangaroo Man
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explain Kangaroo Man
VDV Swim Squad Coach 7/21/2022 10:42 PM
basically, we have a federal body called the australian electoral commision that runs our elections
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BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 10:42 PM
Speaking of voting, investigate anyone posting anything promoting voter apathy “both sides are fascists” horseshit. A lot of them are alts of far right account, and some aren’t even alts
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VDV Swim Squad Coach 7/21/2022 10:42 PM
they are very independent
10:43 PM
it is basically impossible for a political body to interfere with their operations
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they draw up our district maps
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they tally the votes
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TheAnonymousDew 7/21/2022 10:43 PM
We need that in America
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 10:43 PM
neat I hope the workers are fucking pampered
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Speaking of voting, investigate anyone posting anything promoting voter apathy “both sides are fascists” horseshit. A lot of them are alts of far right account, and some aren’t even alts
wabisabilover 7/21/2022 10:43 PM
Totally. Broken bones and cancer are both bad…doesn’t mean they are comparable
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neat I hope the workers are fucking pampered
VDV Swim Squad Coach 7/21/2022 10:44 PM
eh, they catch some shit occasionally but its pretty good overall
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thechromatograph3r 7/21/2022 10:44 PM
“Do you really think that Bill Barr is such a delicate flower that he would wilt under cross-examination?” ~Liz Cheney
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Totally. Broken bones and cancer are both bad…doesn’t mean they are comparable
BrutusBrutus 7/21/2022 10:44 PM
These accounts are active mostly on Reddit, I’ve seen so far, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re elsewhere. There are also some YouTube videos I’m suspect of
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VDV Swim Squad Coach 7/21/2022 10:44 PM
basically, they have a small number of full time staff, and some trained up people
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and then they hire people in to help count and run shit come election day
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WojtektheBear 7/21/2022 10:45 PM
someone use the word fucking treasons ffs
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VDV Swim Squad Coach 7/21/2022 10:45 PM
every count is scrutineered by reps from each party in a race
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who will catch issues
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there is basically like 4+ eyes on every ballot counted
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they are very independent
wabisabilover 7/21/2022 10:47 PM
I’m a big fan of parliamentary systems, but we Patriots need to work with the country and constitution we have…not what we wish at had. Idk much about AUS elections but there are huge divergence structurally
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thechromatograph3r 7/21/2022 10:48 PM
Justice Dept seeks 15-year prison sentence for 1st Capitol riot defendant convicted at trial. Guy Reffitt had gun on his waist as he confronted police His letter seeking leniency is... quite something Page 12: https://t.co/5rAKSejUpE
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someone use the word fucking treasons ffs
thechromatograph3r 7/21/2022 10:48 PM
“Treason” is defined very specifically in the USC. “Sedition” would be a proper word.
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I’m a big fan of parliamentary systems, but we Patriots need to work with the country and constitution we have…not what we wish at had. Idk much about AUS elections but there are huge divergence structurally
First off, they have Christmas during the summer
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thechromatograph3r 7/21/2022 10:49 PM
Y’all got anymore of those Trump bloopers #January6thHearing
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💀 💀 💀 let's all remember that this is the guy who was complaining about how men are no longer manly. Y'all remember that? #HawlinAss
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I’m a big fan of parliamentary systems, but we Patriots need to work with the country and constitution we have…not what we wish at had. Idk much about AUS elections but there are huge divergence structurally
VDV Swim Squad Coach 7/21/2022 10:51 PM
oh yeah
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I mean we use a different voting system lol. We use single transferable vote (edited)
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 10:51 PM
What is he even going on about with his fucking resume
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"My family is suffering" Well that's your fucking fault soooo.....
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VDV Swim Squad Coach 7/21/2022 10:53 PM
Honestly tho I think one of the important things that can be done rn is probably trying to force the dems into actually make some fuckin legislation to try and help defend the electoral process
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 10:53 PM
"He hurt my daughter" He who?
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"My family is suffering" Well that's your fucking fault soooo.....
VDV Swim Squad Coach 7/21/2022 10:54 PM
yeah
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It's unfortunate that other peoples lives are getting fucked over by his actions
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but he chose that path
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he should blame himself, not the courts
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but that level of self-awareness would be unbecoming of an insurrectionist
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Honestly tho I think one of the important things that can be done rn is probably trying to force the dems into actually make some fuckin legislation to try and help defend the electoral process
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VDV Swim Squad Coach 7/21/2022 10:56 PM
yeah saw that
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It's a good start
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And I do like that it was drafted and brought by a bipartisan group
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wabisabilover 7/21/2022 10:56 PM
All very moderate leaders on that
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VDV Swim Squad Coach 7/21/2022 11:01 PM
I am not particularly well versed on where state and federal jurisdiction lies in the US in regards to elections, but from what I know, there aren't many more moderate legal changes that could be brought through congress. As far as I know a lot of the changes would have to be made at the state level. anyone here better versed on the law here?
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 11:02 PM
That's something highly in dispute right now, actually
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Because our supreme court is probably going to support the ridiculous Indepedent Legislature theory
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Right now the bulk of the authority is with the feds, but SCOTUS wants to give it to the states, so they would have the power to throw out any election results they don't like
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VDV Swim Squad Coach 7/21/2022 11:03 PM
:/
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wabisabilover 7/21/2022 11:04 PM
It’s a mix of state law, federal Law, and constitutional law. Not an expert either, but at least proposed this makes it clear that the VP is little more than a master of ceremonies over the counting of the EC votes
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What we really need is to repeal and replace the 12th Am…but that’s not a practical option
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Because our supreme court is probably going to support the ridiculous Indepedent Legislature theory
thechromatograph3r 7/21/2022 11:05 PM
SCOTUS conservatives know they can get away with whatever they want now. They’re emboldened. All they have to do is hope Democrats remain under 60 Senate seats (edited)
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SCOTUS conservatives know they can get away with whatever they want now. They’re emboldened. All they have to do is hope Democrats remain under 60 Senate seats (edited)
YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 11:06 PM
Only for a few more months or so, when they will ensure Democrats never get 60 seats again... 😦
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That's part of what kills me the most about all of this
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These fuckers have no fear
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It would be almost tolerable if any of them were afraid of repercussions
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But it's the brazen way they are so comfortable and sure of their machinations, so cocky and carefree, which kills me. And the fact they know the Dems will never resort to violence or extreme legal maneuvers. And they are right.
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But it's the brazen way they are so comfortable and sure of their machinations, so cocky and carefree, which kills me. And the fact they know the Dems will never resort to violence or extreme legal maneuvers. And they are right.
wabisabilover 7/21/2022 11:10 PM
Don’t be so sure. It’s not our preference, that isn’t the same as unwilling. Consider, for instance, the most radical wings of our protests. They have no issue with violence in principle
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Only for a few more months or so, when they will ensure Democrats never get 60 seats again... 😦
thechromatograph3r 7/21/2022 11:12 PM
This tbh
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wabisabilover 7/21/2022 11:14 PM
Watching Fox rn. They cut direct from saying that the hearings were inadequate for criminal charges against Trump to the knife attack on the GOP candidate for NY Governor…clearly blaming mainstream Dems for the attack
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They will cover for Trump treason if they can
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And they’re trying
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Now linking it to the national DNC convention
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A day after an angry mob of his supporters stormed the Capitol, the then-president filmed a three-minute video at the White House condemning the violence. But he pointedly refused to say the election was over in new footage obtained by the House panel.
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YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker 7/21/2022 11:33 PM
This tweet omg
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This tweet omg
thechromatograph3r 7/22/2022 3:54 AM
LMAO
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@thechromatograph3r hey, youre supposed to be sleeping
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@Nomad go to bed
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I would get fired Or fussed at, probably fussed at, its like.... impossible to get fired
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Trump ignored close allies who told him that his claims of widespread election fraud were untrue, and when the followers who believed his false accusations stormed the Capitol, he sat back and watched. That was the narrative the House of Representatives' select committee investigating the attack laid out in eight hearings over six weeks, which wrapped up with a study of the former president's actions during the 187-minute assault on Congress by thousands of his supporters. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-capitol-probes-season-finale-focus-trump-supporters-three-hour-rage-2022-07-21/ https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/jan-6-us-capitol-riot-hearings-lay-blame-trumps-feet-2022-07-22/
Donald Trump sat for hours watching the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol unfold on live TV, ignoring pleas by his children and other close advisers to urge his supporters to stop the violence, witnesses told a congressional hearing on Thursday.
After losing the 2020 election, Donald Trump ignored close allies who told him that his claims of widespread election fraud were untrue, and when the followers who believed his false accusations stormed the U.S. Capitol, he sat back and watched.
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@thechromatograph3r hey, youre supposed to be sleeping
thechromatograph3r 7/22/2022 7:37 AM
I was awoken at 3:30 am by the LOUDEST lightning strike
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You gotta sleep like me man. I dont get a lot. So when i do i am dead weight
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thechromatograph3r 7/22/2022 9:41 AM
I talked to former D.C. police officer Michael Fanone outside the #Jan6thHearings. Here is his response to seeing video of Sen. Josh Hawley running away from rioters after fist bumping them earlier in the day on Jan. 6 : "Josh Hawley is a bitch", said Fanone.
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thechromatograph3r 7/22/2022 9:53 AM
Wow
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HLMenckenFan 7/22/2022 2:51 PM
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They changed it to "All hearsay" (edited)
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Then they took it down
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Bannon has been found guilty of contempt of congress
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HLMenckenFan 7/22/2022 3:35 PM
Great news
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Steve Bannon found guilty on two counts of contemp of congress.
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HLMenckenFan 7/22/2022 3:46 PM
Damn
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TheAnonymousDew 7/22/2022 3:56 PM
I hope Bannon gets a big scary tough guy as his cellmate
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They changed it to "All hearsay" (edited)
thechromatograph3r 7/22/2022 4:21 PM
I was thinking the same thing last night, BUT it doesn’t matter because this isn’t a court of law; it’s not a trial. He-said-she-said is just the starting point—to see if it’s worth bringing in the sources of the “hearsay.” Then, if/when it comes to a trial, then hearsay matters.
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Also, that tweet was made 15 minutes before the hearing began(?)
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HLMenckenFan 7/22/2022 5:21 PM
I know
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Braakinthesaddle 7/22/2022 5:58 PM
https://twitter.com/The_Mal_Gallery/status/1550289866411634689?t=EiUejEOU5llMlgebkEDbYA&s=19 Shut it down, y'all. This is the greatest thread ever composed on Twitter dot com 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Josh Hawley running away to a variety of soundtracks. Pt. 1: Chariots of Fire #January6thCommitteeHearing
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thechromatograph3r 7/22/2022 5:59 PM
Media: @January6thCmte's @RepKinzinger tells @jimsciutto about threats against his family: "I'm a Christian. Don't ever talk to me about you being a Christian and then threaten to kill a 6-month-old baby. ... A tough man doesn't need to call and threaten a man's wife and child."
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Doctor Eval 7/22/2022 6:43 PM
Man this cold war sure is getting warm
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HLMenckenFan 7/22/2022 7:58 PM
I loved that game as a kid
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Doctor Eval 7/22/2022 8:44 PM
This is 100% true
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I happen to know from personal experience that NSA names their projects in this way. I also happen to know that the secret service is the federal government's premier mobile forensics department. They didn't "lose" anything. They are covering up
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NSA projects are always named ADJECTIVENOUN
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Or at least "WORDWORD"
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Often times randomly
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HLMenckenFan 7/22/2022 8:52 PM
Indeed
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#FreeSnowden
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joe hill’s revenge 7/22/2022 8:57 PM
The fact that trump isn’t in prison should mean that the laws are null and void. But they still arrested me for shoplifting smh
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HLMenckenFan 7/22/2022 10:17 PM
We need more Metal Gear memes
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Wait a minute
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IRONFRONT
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Holy shit bois, we're the NSA now
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Holy shit bois, we're the NSA now
TheAnonymousDew 7/22/2022 11:03 PM
Kept ya waiting huh
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What a thrill...
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thechromatograph3r 7/22/2022 11:36 PM
Snowden continues to be based.
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HLMenckenFan 7/22/2022 11:44 PM
Snowden's book Permanent Record is good
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CaulPartBallMop 7/22/2022 11:52 PM
Holy shit... It's... SHADOW JEEZUS
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What a thrill...
TheAnonymousDew 7/23/2022 2:42 PM
WITH SILENCE AND DARKNESS
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Holy shit bois, we're the NSA now
I don't get this
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thechromatograph3r 7/25/2022 5:07 PM
“To anybody that still believes these conspiracy theories [about Jan 6] that it was Antifa or FBI-directed, then obviously Pres. Trump loves Antifa…” ~Rep. Adam Kinzinger
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January 6 Committee member Representative Adam Kinzinger (R-IL), joins Andrea Mitchell to address some of the outstanding questions facing the select committee, which may be answered with information from Ginni Thomas and the personal phones of some Secret Service personnel. The agency says text messages on agents’ work phones from key dates wer...
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Good video. Kinzinger wants to subpoena Ginni Thomas. (edited)
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“We’re curious to find out what she knows.”
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thechromatograph3r 7/25/2022 5:21 PM
“Yes, it’s very dangerous to prosecute last administrations; we don’t want to get into that as a habit. But if you try a failed coup in this country, and you are not prosecuted, […] I think that sends for the long-term viability of this republic.”
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TheAnonymousDew 7/25/2022 7:04 PM
I think Ginni Thomas wasn't the only Thomas involved
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Doctor Eval 7/25/2022 7:14 PM
Success plan for America: 1. Subpoena Ginni Thomas 2. Impeach Clarence Thomas 3. Indict Trump and his coconspirators 4. Destroy the filibuster 5. Pack the court 6. Issue executive orders like no tomorrow
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No balls
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TheAnonymousDew 7/25/2022 7:24 PM
Expel the seditionist Senators and representatives (edited)
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thechromatograph3r 7/25/2022 7:35 PM
Not a single one of these things is going to happen
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TheAnonymousDew 7/25/2022 7:36 PM
Nope, the DNC are spineless
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Afraid of appearing "partisan"
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When do we resort to pitchforks?
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When do we resort to pitchforks?
Depends on who you ask: Homeland says late November / early december Gallup polls say next Supreme Court sessions By the local talk? I'd say make sure your pantry is full & your ammo topped up by October in just in case. Remember to buy some black block clothes & never wear patches, graphic shirts, designer shoes, or carry handmade signs. Stick to ultra-common rhetoric & use stick on letters for signs. Make sure to use a heavy stick / pitchfork to hold it in case things get spicy. Bring lots of water & a first aid kit. (edited)
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Depends on who you ask: Homeland says late November / early december Gallup polls say next Supreme Court sessions By the local talk? I'd say make sure your pantry is full & your ammo topped up by October in just in case. Remember to buy some black block clothes & never wear patches, graphic shirts, designer shoes, or carry handmade signs. Stick to ultra-common rhetoric & use stick on letters for signs. Make sure to use a heavy stick / pitchfork to hold it in case things get spicy. Bring lots of water & a first aid kit. (edited)
WojtektheBear 7/26/2022 1:15 PM
November of this year?
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I think they’ll wait until 2024 frankly
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November of this year?
Yes, homeland is predicting WE, not the Republicans, will be pitchforking over the midterms. Mostly because they think the Republicans are going to snap seats & get their fascism on. I'll link the security bulletin when I wake up.
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I think mid terms will cause kindle the fire of both sides, especially if states start turning blue.
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The continued proliferation of false or misleading narratives regarding current events could reinforce existing personal grievances or ideologies, and in combination with other factors, could inspire individuals to mobilize to violence. Some domestic violent extremists have expressed grievances related to their perception that the U.S. government is unwilling or unable to secure the U.S.-Mexico border and have called for violence to stem the flow of undocumented migrants to the United States. We assess that there is increased risk of domestic violent extremists using changes in border security-related policies and/or enforcement mechanisms to justify violence against individuals, such as minorities and law enforcement officials involved in the enforcement of border security. Given a high-profile U.S. Supreme Court case about abortion rights, individuals who advocate both for and against abortion have, on public forums, encouraged violence, including against government, religious, and reproductive healthcare personnel and facilities, as well as those with opposing ideologies. As the United States enters mid-term election season this year, we assess that calls for violence by domestic violent extremists directed at democratic institutions, political candidates, party offices, election events, and election workers will likely increase.
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Several recent violent attacks by lone offenders against minority communities, schools, houses of worship, and mass transit have demonstrated the dynamic and complex nature of the threat environment facing the United States: Individuals in online forums that routinely promulgate domestic violent extremist and conspiracy theory-related content have praised the May 2022 mass shooting at an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas and encouraged copycat attacks. Others have seized on the event to attempt to spread disinformation and incite grievances, including claims it was a government-staged event meant to advance gun control measures. The suspect in the grocery store attack in Buffalo, New York in May 2022 claimed he was motivated by racist, anti-Black, and anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, often referred to as the “great replacement” or “white genocide.” These theories claim that minorities, multiculturalists, and a ruling elite are deliberately threatening the existence of the white race. The alleged 2019 attacker at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas cited similar grievances and inspiration for the attack, and both the Buffalo and El Paso attackers indicated they were inspired by the 2019 attacker of two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand. A violent attack in May 2022 in Laguna Woods, California targeted congregants of a church that serves the Taiwanese community. The attack killed one individual and wounded five others. According to the lead investigative agency, the suspect also placed Molotov cocktail-like devices around the church and secured the doors with chains and super glue. In April 2022, an individual wearing a gas mask threw two smoke canisters and opened fire on a New York City subway during morning rush hour, resulting in injuries to dozens of individuals. Following the shooting, a number of pro-al-Qa‘ida and ISIS users celebrated the attack, which remains under investigation.
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I think mid terms will cause kindle the fire of both sides, especially if states start turning blue.
WojtektheBear 7/26/2022 1:47 PM
This is what I meant when I was comparing it to the Years of Lead in Italy, someothing we can discuss more in literature
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thechromatograph3r 7/27/2022 9:40 PM
A West Virginia man initially charged with assaulting a police officer who died after defending the U.S. Capitol from a mob pleaded guilty on Wednesday to misdemeanor offenses that could allow him to avoid more jail time.
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TheAnonymousDew 7/27/2022 9:55 PM
NOW: A MAGA insurrectionist from Pennsylvania who called the FBI hotline "to clear his name" and admit he stormed the Capitol...has been arrested.
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thechromatograph3r 7/27/2022 11:41 PM
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In February, a federal judge ruled that Trump could be sued over the Capitol riot, a decision the former president is appealing.
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I hate his face with a burning passion
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I want to punch it just as much as you I bet
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thechromatograph3r 7/28/2022 1:38 PM
He's in my top-10 list of most punchable faces.
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Braakinthesaddle 7/28/2022 1:56 PM
Ja, er hat ein backpfeiffengesicht
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TheAnonymousDew 7/28/2022 9:07 PM
NOW: Brandon Straka, the "Stop the Steal" speaker and MAGA insurrectionist has provided "significant information" to the FBI about January 6 rally organizers according to newly unsealed filings.
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thechromatograph3r 7/29/2022 3:29 PM
So the top 2 officials at Homeland Security under Trump also have missing text messages leading up to January 6? Subpoena the ever living bejesus out of these people. This is the biggest conspiracy in American history.
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It really is the biggest conspiracy.
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This makes Watergate look like nothing
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thechromatograph3r 7/29/2022 3:34 PM
It's so big that we aren't even slapping "-gate" to the end of it. Think about it.
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It's so big that we aren't even slapping "-gate" to the end of it. Think about it.
WojtektheBear 7/29/2022 4:00 PM
Yeah people are taking it seriously
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Let's go Brandon!
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thechromatograph3r 7/30/2022 11:03 AM
JUST IN: Oath Keeper Thomas Caldwell has been accused by prosecutors of keeping a “death list” that included the names of election officials on it (he calls it a benign “doodle pad.”) In a filing tonight, Caldwell revealed the names on his pad: Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss
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Ladies and gentlemen, shit is about to go down 🔥🔥🔥
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TheAnonymousDew 7/31/2022 8:24 PM
As far as I'm concerned, there's a good chance Thomas and Alito were involved
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JohnBrosGhost 8/1/2022 5:40 PM
A federal judge on Monday sentenced Guy Reffitt, who brought a gun to the US Capitol during the January 6, 2021, riot and threatened House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, to more than seven years in prison, the longest insurrection-related sentence to date.
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Get fucked. 7 years!
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His family casually saying it was Trump's fault is golden...... "Reffitt’s wife and two daughters were in the courtroom when the sentence was handed down. Reffitt’s younger daughter, Peyton, told the judge that her father is “not a threat to my family,” and that her family “turned a blind eye” to his mental health issues. “My father’s name wasn’t on all the flags that were there that day, that everyone was carrying that day. He is not the leader,” Peyton said through tears, at times pausing with her hand on her heart."
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That is it?
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meanwhile a dude did life for 1.5 ounces
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JohnBrosGhost 8/1/2022 6:38 PM
I mean, on one hand, yes. Dude is literally a domestic terrorist. But compared to the 30 day probation plea deals a lot of them have been getting, 7 years is sounding a whole lot better. But yes, it’s more evidence that we are not treating J6 like the coup attempt it was
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thechromatograph3r 8/1/2022 7:10 PM
Yea, this fucker got seven years. Should be 10 in my opinion, but still, finally some delicious fucking sentencing
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His family casually saying it was Trump's fault is golden...... "Reffitt’s wife and two daughters were in the courtroom when the sentence was handed down. Reffitt’s younger daughter, Peyton, told the judge that her father is “not a threat to my family,” and that her family “turned a blind eye” to his mental health issues. “My father’s name wasn’t on all the flags that were there that day, that everyone was carrying that day. He is not the leader,” Peyton said through tears, at times pausing with her hand on her heart."
joe hill’s revenge 8/1/2022 7:19 PM
Can we get some lock him up posters
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The mother of Ashli Babbitt, the pro-Trump rioter who was shot and killed by police on January 6, also was in the courtroom at times on Monday.
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Judge Friedrich added "The officers at the Capitol are the patriots, as well as those who fought and even died to protect our democracy, our rule of law ... those in the mob are not. Not only are they not patriots, they're a direct threat to our democracy and will be punished as such."
Get fucked traitor mom
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Former Obama Attorney General Eric Holder said a Georgia prosecutor is more likely to act sooner than the Justice Department against Donald Trump.
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Can we get some lock him up posters
WojtektheBear 8/7/2022 8:54 PM
#graphic-designers
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https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/15/inside-the-war-between-trump-and-his-generals It turned out that the generals had rules, standards, and expertise, not blind loyalty. The President’s loud complaint to John Kelly one day was typical: “You fucking generals, why can’t you be like the German generals?” “Which generals?” Kelly asked. “The German generals in World War II,” Trump responded. “You do know that they tried to kill Hitler three times and almost pulled it off?” Kelly said. But, of course, Trump did not know that. “No, no, no, they were totally loyal to him,” the President replied. In his version of history, the generals of the Third Reich had been completely subservient to Hitler; this was the model he wanted for his military. Kelly told Trump that there were no such American generals, but the President was determined to test the proposition. (edited)
How Mark Milley and others in the Pentagon handled the national-security threat posed by their own Commander-in-Chief.
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Steve Mike 8/8/2022 5:14 PM
I cant believe how fucking stupid Trump is
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Insane
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I cant believe how fucking stupid Trump is
WojtektheBear 8/8/2022 6:11 PM
Really does take your breath away sometimes lmao
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WojtektheBear 8/15/2022 3:36 PM
NOW: Sentencing is underway in Jan 6 case of John Cameron. Feds say on Jan 6, Cameron described a" “fun, exciting, interesting, historic event”... and has recently portrayed himself as a "political prisoner" Justice Dept seeks 30 days in prison
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3:36 PM
He plead guilty and is actively contradicting that publicly
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WojtektheBear 8/15/2022 3:48 PM
Feel like Trump complaining about how the FBI confiscated his passport is one of those moments where the non-crazy GOP people are gonna back off for a couple days and think about whether they want to be involved in this.
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Hell no, this is when they double down and froth HARDER about lib-rulz and trans and commies or something (edited)
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WojtektheBear 8/15/2022 4:18 PM
Idk you’re seeing DeSantis and Crenshaw push back on this and they’re not exactly fringe
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Crenshaw's been wavering for awhile, to be fair.
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Man sided with Liz Cheney but DeSantis is trying to rid of a rival for power
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Braakinthesaddle 8/15/2022 5:36 PM
Yea Ron is gearing up for 2024 I think. Wouldn't be shocked to see Crenshaw or Josh Hawley as his choice for VP.
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Hawley for sure
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Idk you’re seeing DeSantis and Crenshaw push back on this and they’re not exactly fringe
joe hill’s revenge 8/15/2022 6:46 PM
Desantis wants to replace trump
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Yea Ron is gearing up for 2024 I think. Wouldn't be shocked to see Crenshaw or Josh Hawley as his choice for VP.
joe hill’s revenge 8/15/2022 6:48 PM
Desantis’s pitch is “trump, without the baggage.”
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and Trump likewise doesn't want that so hopefully infighting happens
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especially with that "DeSatntis approved the fbi of going after trump" Rumor going on
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Desantis wants to replace trump
WojtektheBear 8/15/2022 10:04 PM
Yeah IK but that actually makes me think he wants to push the “if trump himself actually did crimes we should let the Feds do their job” train because it saves him the MAGA mauling he’s in for
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TheAnonymousDew 8/16/2022 7:49 AM
I want the two to destroy each other
7:50 AM
In a perfect scenario, Trump tells his voters to stay home on election night
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thechromatograph3r 9/1/2022 1:28 PM
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1565352447253524483 PDF WARNING: Link in tweet is a direct link to a PDF file of the indictment
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thechromatograph3r 9/1/2022 4:21 PM
Baltimore couple charged in connection with US Capitol riot | WBAL NewsRadio 1090/FM 101.5 💖 1 🔁 2
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“NEWS: MEHTA sentences Webster to 10 years (120 months), the longest sentence yet handed down in a Jan. 6 case.”
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Thomas Webster, a retired New York City officer, was convicted of several felonies for attacking a D.C. officer with a flag pole and tackling him to the ground on Jan. 6.
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JohnBrosGhost 9/1/2022 5:41 PM
10 years baby.
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Still seems very light for literally assaulting an officer
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But I hope it starts to send the message that these cases are being taken seriously
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they really wanted to set a example with him god damn
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WojtektheBear 9/1/2022 8:18 PM
I think it’s very funny that he did the cop thing and lied about crime he did and it just fucked him over more
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thechromatograph3r 9/1/2022 10:12 PM
“NEWS — the Jan. 6 committee is seeking testimony from former House Speaker Newt Gingrich Story TK w/ @woodruffbets”
“NEWS: Jan. 6 committee is seeking testimony from former House Speaker Newt GINGRICH, who counseled Trump’s top advisers to air TV ads that would generate distrust of election results, leading to pressure on state legislatures and governors. https://t.co/teF2hkzT1V”
Gingrich tells @CBSNews that Jan. 6 is a "Stalinist show trial" and "I'll have my attorney talk with them" about their request. "It tells you everything you need to know about them that I'm hearing this from you right now. Publicity stunt." "I have no idea what this is about."
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Figures that bastard would be involved
thechromatograph3r 9/2/2022 1:07 PM
That fucker almost single-handedly destroyed bipartisanship in the 90s
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That fucker almost single-handedly destroyed bipartisanship in the 90s
TheAnonymousDew 9/2/2022 1:07 PM
Which is why I had a feeling he was involved
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Which is why I love the Dark Brandon shit
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thechromatograph3r 9/2/2022 1:08 PM
Ex-Trump White House counsel Pat Cipollone and ex-deputy counsel Pat Philbin are appearing TODAY before the federal grand jury investigating Jan. 6.
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The search inventory released showed that classified documents had been mixed in with personal items and other materials in the boxes in which they were stored. Federal investigators also retrieved more than 11,000 non-classified government documents.
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TheAnonymousDew 9/3/2022 1:45 AM
You know how you know January 6th failed? Because the screwup that sold steaks at an electronics store and managed to SOMEHOW run casinos, which are basically the most idiotproof business, into the ground, planned it
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I dont honestly think he screwed up running a casino. I think it was money laundering and it served its purpose and was shut down before any evidence could be collected
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You know how you know January 6th failed? Because the screwup that sold steaks at an electronics store and managed to SOMEHOW run casinos, which are basically the most idiotproof business, into the ground, planned it
I could get behind being served a steak when I buy a cell phone or laptop, though.
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TheAnonymousDew 9/3/2022 5:29 PM
No as in he sold uncooked steaks there
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No as in he sold uncooked steaks there
Raps [PDX,OR] 9/4/2022 10:59 PM
Theres a tire store in my area that used to do beef giveaways when you bought tires from them. Genius marketing if I say so.
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FAFO
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"ruling that the attack on the Capitol was an insurrection and that Griffin’s participation in it disqualified him under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. This decision marks the first time since 1869 that a court has disqualified a public official under Section 3, and the first time that any court has ruled the events of January 6, 2021 an insurrection."
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Taco Avenger 9/7/2022 7:35 AM
yes
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thechromatograph3r 9/11/2022 12:02 AM
When FBI special agents asked Robert Keith Packer why he wore a Camp Auschwitz sweatshirt, he replied "because I was cold."
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joe hill’s revenge 9/11/2022 6:27 PM
Is it bad if I kinda chuckled at that
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Is it bad if I kinda chuckled at that
thechromatograph3r 9/11/2022 9:18 PM
Nah
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MisterStompy 9/21/2022 9:03 PM
BREAKING: A three-judge panel of the 11th Circuit has granted DOJ's motion for a partial stay, allowing them to continue using classified materials seized from Mar-a-Lago as part of their criminal investigation.
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Trump is not having a good day legally. Special master also told him to prove that he declassified the documents.
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thechromatograph3r 9/21/2022 9:53 PM
News: The Jan. 6 Committee has come to an agreement with Ginni Thomas, wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, to be interviewed in the coming weeks, a source close to the panel tells @jamiegangel.
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Thomas’ lawyer: “I can confirm that Ginni Thomas has agreed to participate in a voluntary interview with the Committee. …Mrs. Thomas is eager to answer the Committee’s questions to clear up any misconceptions about her work relating to the 2020 election.” https://t.co/uop2zQjrh6
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LessthanLoneWolf 9/21/2022 10:07 PM
Good! Now we need her husband to resign
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Braakinthesaddle 9/22/2022 12:27 AM
🗓️ The Select Committee will hold a hearing on Wednesday, September 28th at 1:00pm.
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thechromatograph3r 9/22/2022 4:16 PM
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A judge on Thursday sentenced Stephen Ayres, who entered the Capitol during the Jan. 6, 2021, riot and testified before the House panel investigating the attack, to two years of probation. Ayres’s …
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That’s it? Fucking probation?
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Former Jan. 6 committee staffer told 60 Minutes the White House switchboard connected a call to a rioter's phone while the Capitol was being attacked.
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oh shit
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There's another hearing this week iirc.
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There's another hearing this week iirc.
thechromatograph3r 9/26/2022 9:49 AM
Correct
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thechromatograph3r 9/26/2022 9:49 AM
What was on that call?
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thechromatograph3r 9/28/2022 9:05 AM
https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1574771512988639232?s=46&t=nS_v4xqos8Nh0k2pGBbUFw https://twitter.com/jordanonrecord/status/1574787466564878346?s=46&t=nS_v4xqos8Nh0k2pGBbUFw Regard J6 Defendant Kyle Fitzsimons of Maine Judge Contreras finds Kyle Fitzsimons of Maine GUILTY on all 11 counts, including 6 felony counts: civil disorder, obstruction of an official proceeding and 4x of assault. Also finds Fitzsimons guilty of enhancement for causing bodily injury to Sgt. Aquilino Gonell.
New: Judge finds Jan. 6 defendant Kyle Fitzsimons GUILTY of felony civil disorder, GUILTY of obstruction of an official proceeding. Judge still going through the rest of the charges.
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🚨 VERDICT: Judge Contreras finds Kyle Fitzsimons of Maine GUILTY on all 11 counts, including 6 felony counts: civil disorder, obstruction of an official proceeding and 4x of assault. Also finds Fitzsimons guilty of enhancement for causing bodily injury to Sgt. Aquilino Gonell.
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NBC News: Kyle Young, a 38-year old Trump fan who brought his teenage son along as he assaulted then-D.C. police officer Mike Fanone and another officer at the Capitol on Jan. 6, was just sentenced to more than seven years — 86 months — in prison. @MSNBC
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"I am not honored by what I did. It eats me every day," Young said during his sentencing.
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thechromatograph3r 9/28/2022 4:15 PM
Just a reminder that this resource exists: https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases
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suspiciously_suspicious 10/3/2022 5:25 PM
US authorities are unsuccessfully trying to track down Jon Schaffer to deliver court documents relating to the Capitol Riots
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 10/3/2022 6:15 PM
Because he's a TrUe PaTrIoT!!
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thechromatograph3r 10/6/2022 4:28 PM
WASHINGTON (AP) — North Carolina man becomes 1st Proud Boys member to plead guilty to seditious conspiracy in Jan. 6 U.S. Capitol attack.
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It’s happening
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JohnBrosGhost 10/12/2022 8:39 PM
A veteran and member of the Oath Keepers testified Wednesday that the far-right group amassed more weapons outside Washington, DC, on January 6, 2021, than he had seen since his days in the military.
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TheAnonymousDew 10/13/2022 3:31 PM
Trump got subpoenaed
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The Jan. 6 select committee aired previously unseen footage from Fort McNair, the DC-area Army base where congressional leaders took refuge during the insurrection and scrambled to respond to the unfolding crisis.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 10/13/2022 9:11 PM
The Jan. 6 committee played footage of the longtime Trump ally detailing how the former president planned to declare himself the winner of the election
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WojtektheBear 10/14/2022 12:08 PM
While I appreciate Nancy’s grace Chuck’s incandescent anger (which I’m sure she also felt) just really meets the moment for me
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JohnBrosGhost 10/14/2022 3:08 PM
Someone just posted this but like…. Who the fuck planted the pipe bombs on J6?? Like there have been zero developments in that case?
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Someone clearly knew what was going to happen that day and wanted to cause chaos
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While I appreciate Nancy’s grace Chuck’s incandescent anger (which I’m sure she also felt) just really meets the moment for me
Nancy Pelosi is a boss 🔥 It’s even better up close. I could watch this all night long on loop.
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joe hill’s revenge 10/14/2022 11:36 PM
By Luke Broadwater and Maggie Haberman
In a rambling, 14-page restatement of false claims and conspiracy theories, the former president did not indicate whether he would testify before the House panel investigating the Capitol riot.
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TheAnonymousDew 10/16/2022 1:46 AM
Then send the House Sargeant At Arms after him and throw him in jail until he testifies
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They can do that
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If someone did one of those early 2010's autotune remixes of this clip, I would legit play it on repeat.
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thechromatograph3r 10/21/2022 3:15 PM
WASHINGTON (AP) — The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol formally issued its extraordinary subpoena o Donald Trump on Friday, demanding testimony from the former president who lawmakers say “personally orchestrated” a multi-part effort to overturn the results of the 2020 election.
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Here's the subpoena they issued to Trump. They're asking for all communications he made regarding the election, particularly mentioning those made on Signal
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WojtektheBear 11/3/2022 4:59 PM
Rhodes just going full anime villain with the eye patch and growing more erratic in prison https://twitter.com/glennkirschner2/status/1588201292920389632
The last words the jury heard before the prosecutors rested their case - Defendant Elmer Rhodes saying: “We should have brought rifles. We could have fixed it right then & there. I’d hang f**king Pelosi from the lamppost.” In the courtroom, you could have heard a firing pin drop.
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Rhodes just going full anime villain with the eye patch and growing more erratic in prison https://twitter.com/glennkirschner2/status/1588201292920389632
TheAnonymousDew 11/5/2022 7:58 PM
These deluded fools can't help but make it worse for themselves can they?
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Warm Thoughts: The more the GOP fractures the greater the chance we can destroy Trump legally.
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We need to encourage the infighting
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#chaos-monkeys we call upon you
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We need to encourage the infighting
RedMoonWarrior 11/9/2022 6:15 PM
Indeed. DeSantis vs. Trump is already shaping up quite well.
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And something tells me that the other hangerons like Ron Johnson will just leapfrog to the next big boy in the room when it becomes convenient.
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WojtektheBear 11/11/2022 8:59 PM
@NoPasaran Welcome! I’m not from DC but I did go to school there and interned at the Capitol. Not to put you on the spot but I’m curious, where were you on J6?
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Rhodes just going full anime villain with the eye patch and growing more erratic in prison https://twitter.com/glennkirschner2/status/1588201292920389632
Doctor Eval 11/12/2022 6:52 AM
Sounds like a likely conviction to me
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JohnBrosGhost 11/13/2022 10:34 PM
Former Vice President Mike Pence said in an exclusive interview with ABC's "World News Tonight" anchor David Muir that former President Donald Trump's rhetoric was "reckless" as a mob of his supporters ransacked the Capitol last year -- with Pence and others temporarily forced into hiding. Pence said he was "angered" over a tweet from Trump as ...
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They've officially turned on trump.
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They say that the Unselect Committee of Democrats, Misfits, and Thugs, without any representation from Republicans in good standing, is getting ready to recommend Criminal Charges to the highly partisan, political, and Corrupt “Justice” Department for the “ PEACEFULLY & PATRIOTICLY” speech I made on January 6th. This speech and my actions were mild & loving, especially when compared to Democrats wild spewing of HATE. Why didn’t they investigate massive Election Fraud or send in the Troops? SCAM! Our Country is SICK inside, very much like a person dying of Cancer. The Crooked FBI, the so-called Department of “Justice,” and “Intelligence,” all parts of the Democrat Party and System, is the Cancer. These Weaponized Thugs and Tyrants must be dealt with, or our once great and beautiful Country will die!!! Republicans and Patriots all over the land must stand strong and united against the Thugs and Scoundrels of the Unselect Committee. It will be a dark period in American history, but with darkness comes light!!! I’M JUST FIGHTING TO SAVE OUR COUNTRY!
Trump is getting more unhinged by the day
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Especially since news about Jan 6 Committee recommending charges to DOJ
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What do you guys think? Will anything come of this?
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Will Trump be charged with any crimes?
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I hope he does. Do I think he will? No.
3:29 AM
If he was only a businessman then 100%, but he was a president of the US, and for that reason alone they're not going to prosecute as an excuse that it sets a poor precedent for the future
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Pretty sure France threw their ex president in jail semi-recently
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I use it as an example when people say "it looks bad" or whatever
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China also threw out their old president from their party congress about a month or two ago, I can't remember. The bottom line is half of America could not give a shit if it happens in other countries.
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It sucks but that's the reality. "Why prosecute a president when we have real issues in America like immigration and inflation? It's a waste of money."
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I hate people who say "why do X instead of Y with tax money??" My basic philosophy is that if the government is going to spend money, it should be spent on the most useful things possible... But this isn't the reality. Instead, the government wastes billions or trillions of dollars each year on tons of wasteful, useless or immoral things that people never really care about or never bring up. They just use this argument whenever something happens that they don't like. "Why are we spending money on Ukraine instead of helping people here?" for example, as if we haven't been borrowing & printing trillions to spend on misadventures in the Middle East or dicking around in outer space for decades while also spending money on social programs, infrastructure, subsidies and other things to help people at the same time. This sounds a little ramble-y and not as precise as I want it to, but it's late here and I'm pretty tired (edited)
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Point is they say "why spend on X and not Y?' only when they dislike X. Government is so far in debt that it doesn't really matter how much we spend on X or Y; we can basically spend as much as we want on both and keep kicking the can of paying back our debts down the road like we've always done.
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That's better.
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But people don't get this, or they don't care
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I fully agree, we spend the fake money regardless and are in debt no matter what. But it's purely a focus of "these are the REAL issues" to deflect off any argument
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Will Trump be charged with any crimes?
I do think that he will be charged. I think that's the point of having the committee make a criminal referral: both the committee and DOJ can spread responsibility around, to defuse the argument that the Attorney General is on a personal vendetta against Trump. But I'm not sure where I expect it to go after that.
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LessthanLoneWolf 12/19/2022 9:49 AM
If they don’t charge him, it sets an awful precedent
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LessthanLoneWolf 12/19/2022 2:34 PM
The House select committee investigating the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol has concluded that former President Donald Trump was ultimately responsible for the insurrection, laying out for the public and the Justice Department a trove of evidence for why he should be prosecuted for multiple crimes.
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They recommend charges. Balls in your court justice department
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If he was only a businessman then 100%, but he was a president of the US, and for that reason alone they're not going to prosecute as an excuse that it sets a poor precedent for the future
floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/19/2022 4:14 PM
i mean, there’s also the huge threat of violence from it
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Remember how a few FBI offices got shot up after the raid on MAL?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/19/2022 5:50 PM
Rep. Zoe Lofgren said a lawyer affiliated with Trump offered a witness a well-paying job if she refused to talk to the committee.
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I hate people who say "why do X instead of Y with tax money??" My basic philosophy is that if the government is going to spend money, it should be spent on the most useful things possible... But this isn't the reality. Instead, the government wastes billions or trillions of dollars each year on tons of wasteful, useless or immoral things that people never really care about or never bring up. They just use this argument whenever something happens that they don't like. "Why are we spending money on Ukraine instead of helping people here?" for example, as if we haven't been borrowing & printing trillions to spend on misadventures in the Middle East or dicking around in outer space for decades while also spending money on social programs, infrastructure, subsidies and other things to help people at the same time. This sounds a little ramble-y and not as precise as I want it to, but it's late here and I'm pretty tired (edited)
The government doesn’t waste enough money
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I propose devoting 900 billion per year to a New Year’s Eve bonfire
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It’ll cut inflation
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The government doesn’t waste enough money
AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/19/2022 7:04 PM
just do what the onion did and throw it into a massive pit
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If you see what "the government" people see, throwing the money into a big pit doesn't even sound ironic. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M1V
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They recommend charges. Balls in your court justice department
I have to ask, if he is charged and convicted, it makes me ask these questions: What crimes in particular? Clearly his actions were criminal, but what crimes do they push for charges of? Does these crimes make him ineligible to run for presidency again (if convicted)? If so, the GOP will almost certainly push for DeSantis, and I fear he will be more popular with the GOP than Trump is currently. Am I just too drunk to be trying to think about politics right now?
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LessthanLoneWolf 12/20/2022 10:30 PM
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I didn’t want to type it all out.
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I’m pretty confident if convicted of a felony, he may be ineligible to run again. While him in jail would definitely put DeSantis out front, that’s not happening for years still.
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And the inability to charge a president might make him push for the office even more
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Of course desantis could always pardon him if they win
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Of course desantis could always pardon him if they win
With how trump bashed DeSantis recently, I don't see that happening, altho it wouldn't surprise me.
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LessthanLoneWolf 12/20/2022 10:34 PM
Remember how trump spoke of Cruz’s wife? Same thing
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I’m pretty confident if convicted of a felony, he may be ineligible to run again. While him in jail would definitely put DeSantis out front, that’s not happening for years still.
Does the prospect of DeSantis being in the running without trump worry you that 2024 may go horribly?
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Remember how trump spoke of Cruz’s wife? Same thing
I don't, however I'm googling it now...
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LessthanLoneWolf 12/20/2022 10:36 PM
What happens will happen. I don’t think Biden should run again, but I’m not sure who’s a better option. Trump I hope splits the Republican vote from desantis. However, if desantis gets in, the fallout of another fascist potus would simply accelerate what’s happening.
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Remember how trump spoke of Cruz’s wife? Same thing
WTH! And Cruz still defends trump. That's goofy behavior. The GOP being GOP I guess
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What happens will happen. I don’t think Biden should run again, but I’m not sure who’s a better option. Trump I hope splits the Republican vote from desantis. However, if desantis gets in, the fallout of another fascist potus would simply accelerate what’s happening.
With the Democrats, I've noticed if you think presidency you rarely think of someone qualified or popular enough to have a true fighting chance... Biden isn't a great choice, neither is Hillary. Obama can't run again. With the GOP we got Cruz who previously said he'd run again, DeSantis, Trump, and I'm sure there's another "household" name that they could put forward.
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WTH! And Cruz still defends trump. That's goofy behavior. The GOP being GOP I guess
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/20/2022 11:32 PM
Pence is still on the side of the people who built a fucking gallows for him on January 6. This is nothing.
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Desantis is vulnerable to "Florida Man"
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No limits to what one will do.
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It's very dangerous to attract their attention without sufficient distance.
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If you see what "the government" people see, throwing the money into a big pit doesn't even sound ironic. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M1V
M1 velocity is a spook
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Most useless metric in economics
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M2 Velocity is (maybe) credible but still a functionally worthless metric if banks prefer borrowing money from the fed to interbank lending (which most banks have preferred since ‘08) (edited)
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Velocity’s purpose is only to give the MV = YP equation a constant but since the Graham-Lilley-Beach Act, US money creation and destruction have become mostly endogenous meaning M is an obsolete function
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The only way you can realistically model the money supply is the credit markets and total economic demand equilibriums at each point with federal interest rate increases to determine inflationary pressures.
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TLDR: The Fed needs to stop using Keynesian economic metrics that are like 40 years out of date
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Reagan lives!
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/22/2022 4:14 PM
WHERE IS HE
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WHERE THE FUCK IS HE
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/22/2022 4:21 PM
I want a Burgess Folding Shotgun so bad.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/22/2022 4:31 PM
for real
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imagine getting mugged and pulling out an entire fucking shotgun lmao
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/22/2022 4:32 PM
"It's okay, I have a CCW."
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/22/2022 4:32 PM
i wonder if they count as AOWs or SBSs?
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Reagan lives!
If that was @ me look look look, a broken clock is right twice, and as much as we can rag of the Chicago Boys fiscal policy prescriptions they generally knew what they were doing when it comes to monetary policy. Keynes was great at introducing how government intervention into the economy can provide net welfare benefits but his prescriptions took little account for why that doesn’t translate into the monetary space (edited)
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If that was @ me look look look, a broken clock is right twice, and as much as we can rag of the Chicago Boys fiscal policy prescriptions they generally knew what they were doing when it comes to monetary policy. Keynes was great at introducing how government intervention into the economy can provide net welfare benefits but his prescriptions took little account for why that doesn’t translate into the monetary space (edited)
I was more suggesting that Reagan/Thatcher era policy pushed control of money supply to credit markets, agreeing with you that the Fed's old metrics are weak.
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I mean at the end of the day monetarism makes more sense than the Keynesian fiscal regime. No matter what engineering you do changing the money supply will not affect long-term economic growth but volatility in the money supply will destroy consumer/capital confidence which craters short-term growth
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I was more suggesting that Reagan/Thatcher era policy pushed control of money supply to credit markets, agreeing with you that the Fed's old metrics are weak.
Oh gotcha
5:56 PM
Yeah Plaza accord-era policy was whack af
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Which M number is credit card limits/balances, for example?
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Which M number is credit card limits/balances, for example?
M4 iirc which the fed has never even tracked in history lmao
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M4 is stuff like interest rate swaps.
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1uc2
M4 is stuff like interest rate swaps.
I don’t think it’s in M3 though and I definitely know it’s not M2
6:00 PM
Lemme check
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M1 is supposed to be spendable cash-equivalents.
6:02 PM
The fed and banks have done a fantastic job destabilizing cryptocurrency exchange rates, which prevents pizza shops from accepting Bitcoin or Ethereum.
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M1 is supposed to be spendable cash-equivalents.
Credit accounts aren’t hard money though
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I personally believe that most of the time, when people are paid to talk about inflation, they are using it as a dog whistle for labor prices.
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The fed and banks have done a fantastic job destabilizing cryptocurrency exchange rates, which prevents pizza shops from accepting Bitcoin or Ethereum.
If I'm being honest, crypto has to go
6:04 PM
All of it
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In its entirety
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Like I think L or Total Liquidity is the only definition of money where credit balances are accepted
6:04 PM
Which is the broadest possible definition
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My point in muddying the money definition with credit is that money isn't the same transactional medium that they act like it is.
6:06 PM
So their control over markets' behavior using strict hard money supply control is blunted.
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I personally believe that most of the time, when people are paid to talk about inflation, they are using it as a dog whistle for labor prices.
You can argue that on the business side but a lot of my friends in logistics tend to say that demand is currently insane for products that supply is extremely limited for or where supply chains are currently janky af so there is legit comment to be made on orthodox depictions of inflation
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What they CAN do is shake the stock market because the Fed rates are backed into the Black-Scholes options pricing model and those markets are very tightly coupled to equities.
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Globalization swift reversal over the last few years has pretty much created a glut of money and not enough stuff in every country
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Well... We lost access to cheap labor from India and China, so labor supply is a huge factor in supply chains. Also Russia is trying really hard to jack up energy cost for personal gain, and American pain.
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So their control over markets' behavior using strict hard money supply control is blunted.
Oh completely agreed, like the Fed is genuinely actually pretty good at responding to major crisises but that’s because their last resort is OMO’s which mainly target the credit markets
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Labor cost and energy cost can dominate the inflationary function. Look at the strategic petroleum reserve releases...
6:11 PM
We're basically at war, as far as accounting is concerned.
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I think standardizing RFR instead of tying it to the federal funds rate would help and lending to banks with beta-inclusive lending policies would help
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Ha! That would introduce accountability to the princes of the modern economy.
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1uc2
Ha! That would introduce accountability to the princes of the modern economy.
Fair fair haha
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Not going to happen without an incredibly destructive calamity.
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Not going to happen without an incredibly destructive calamity.
True, I was just spitballing my thoughts on fed reform
6:16 PM
I mean I also believe consumer banking divisions should be nationalized and placed in public trusts as well but that’s neither here nor there
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like Sberbank?
6:17 PM
Consumer banking is so slimy.
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Certainly better than crypto (edited)
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@archon what's your personal beef with cryptocurrency? (Disclosure: I don't touch the stuff)
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It's a scam riddled mess with very low actual liquidity, with ""leaders"" that have 0 incentive to actually be a decent business and it's entirely held up on hopium, delusion, and cult-like adherence to the group
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@archon cryptocurrency is a casino mess because the banking system can't control it, and actively suppresses it.
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like Sberbank?
Ehhhh not quite, like a company that is still technically fully private but mandated to be a non-profit, fixed executive salaries, and zero equity holdings so it’s beholden to neither government or shareholder interests. Sberbank is just partially state-owned but otherwise functions like a traditional private bank in ownership structure iirc
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Ehhhh not quite, like a company that is still technically fully private but mandated to be a non-profit, fixed executive salaries, and zero equity holdings so it’s beholden to neither government or shareholder interests. Sberbank is just partially state-owned but otherwise functions like a traditional private bank in ownership structure iirc
So like a Federal Reserve Bank, but for consumer accounts instead of interbank lending accounts?
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@archon cryptocurrency is a casino mess because the banking system can't control it, and actively suppresses it.
It's a Casino mess because crypto has 0 regulations and it burnt itself down. The current banking system didn't have to do Jack, the crypto industry was a house of cards on the start and I'm glad it's in pieces.
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@archon you may be out of your depth on the facts.
6:25 PM
I know for a fact that all the big 3 US banks were allowed to run up investment banking crypto balances, and I also know they engage in furious market manipulation, of the pump-and-dump variety on everything they trade.
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@archon cryptocurrency is a casino mess because the banking system can't control it, and actively suppresses it.
I disagree, at the end of the day crypto is an asset based purely on speculation, even if it was standardized it would either A. have to build completely privatized regulatory systems that would make it inferior to fiat or B. maintain no regulation in its environment and be incapable of developing as anything more than a speculative asset
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If the Bitcoin price of a delivery pizza were stable, then people would accept Bitcoin as payment for labor, and this labor force would back the denomination.
6:28 PM
All they had to do was pump and dump crypto a bunch of times, and the gamblers showed up and scared off all the hard working people.
6:29 PM
I can't say much, but I had a ringside seat to the 2008 housing crisis, and I saw how the machine works.
6:30 PM
I agree the people involved in crypto these days are not people I ever want to transact with.
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I'll ask you a question 1uc2, what do Luna, Terra, and FTX have in common?
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Are they all crypto exchanges/casinos?
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They all were scams of their maker's own creation and collapsed because of it
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Ok I just looked them up. Terra is the network and Luna is the coin, and FTX was the exchange pumping real money into the system from consumer/gambler accounts.
6:40 PM
That stuff is child's play compared to the pyramid schemes made of small banks and retirement funds run by the big banks... It's ignorable so I do.
6:41 PM
The pyramid would still be inflating if the CCP didn't decide the Chinese must exit.
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You have it the other way around. And honestly, I dare you to tell those that permanently lost tens, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars on crypto ponzi schemes that crypto is a good thing. At least the traditional banking system, although it does suck, is actually bloody regulated and you can actually get some of your money back. As long as crypto is the unregulated, cowboy, free-for-all unstable mess that it is, it's never replacing fiat.
6:46 PM
And I for one am glad it's all burning down to ash.
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If the Bitcoin price of a delivery pizza were stable, then people would accept Bitcoin as payment for labor, and this labor force would back the denomination.
You’re not going to stop market speculation if you don’t have a regulatory system though. And Bitcoin is just structurally inferior as a currency.
7:20 PM
If your currency is inherently deflationary in the long term people will end up hoarding it instead of investing it or buying with it, making it lose its usability and creating a confidence crisis that creates mass selloffs (thus volatility)
7:24 PM
Crypto is self-destructive and volatile by nature, because unlike fiat which can be backed by civil institutions enforcing a currency regime, crypto has no capability to enforce its own system and even if it could its would be a completely unsustainable regime that would have no legal enforcement capabilities which would eventually lead to a market collapse either by crisis in confidence as a medium of exchange or within the mediums that exchange it (edited)
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Crypto is self-destructive and volatile by nature, because unlike fiat which can be backed by civil institutions enforcing a currency regime, crypto has no capability to enforce its own system and even if it could its would be a completely unsustainable regime that would have no legal enforcement capabilities which would eventually lead to a market collapse either by crisis in confidence as a medium of exchange or within the mediums that exchange it (edited)
Also very, very prone to scams and ponzi schemes. Heck, it's practically tailor made for it!
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Yes you can argue institutional finance has been trying to manipulate the market (though given hedge funds have a much larger stake and have being legitimately using it as a VIX or commodities alt for years now I doubt a lot of institutional players actually want to destroy crypto, more just profit off of the bigger blue chips like firms like Akuna and Optiver already do with corn price contracts or shit like that.) but that does leave the point open: Crypto has absolutely no safeguards against institutional actors or even internal actors, and will only work with the good will of its users, producers and exchanges
7:40 PM
At the end of the day crypto is the perfect display of why ideologies like anarcho-capitalism or libertarianism will always fail in practice
7:41 PM
Self-regulatory systems will almost always either become cartels or collapse in functionality
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You’re not going to stop market speculation if you don’t have a regulatory system though. And Bitcoin is just structurally inferior as a currency.
What stops speculation is low volatility.
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If the protocol had volatility brakes, then there would be too little margin for speculating.
8:17 PM
I'm not in disagreement with the gist of unregulated systems though.
8:17 PM
Don't pen the coyotes with the sheep..
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Doesn't help when every so called ""leader"" in crypto is a coyote dressed as sheep
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Doesn't help when every so called ""leader"" in crypto is a coyote dressed as sheep
Almost as if it was a scam this whole fucking time.
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Almost as if it was a scam this whole fucking time.
My exact point.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/28/2022 9:36 PM
“New: Jan. 6 committee withdraws subpoena to Donald Trump as it concludes its investigation, per letter obtained by @guardian”
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/29/2022 3:42 PM
William J. Walker, who was the head of the D.C. National Guard during the insurrection, also indicated he thought more people in the crowd would have died if the mob had been largely Black instead of overwhelmingly white.
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He ain't wrong
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/29/2022 3:44 PM
Sadly.
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TheAnonymousDew 12/30/2022 3:08 PM
And RWers are purposefully obtuse about Ashli Babbit, she broke into the fucking Capitol, we have it on film, yet those fucking knuckledragging morons continue to believe the bullshit that "she was let in"
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Ashli Babbit's grave should be deemed a all genders public restroom for her bullshit (edited)
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TheAnonymousDew 12/30/2022 3:24 PM
Abso-fucking-lutely
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/30/2022 3:39 PM
They're all for "muh secund amendment" and "bak da bloo" until they're the ones getting shot by cops. (edited)
3:39 PM
Eat your words with a side of lead, traitors.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/3/2023 3:30 AM
An attorney for Seattle Proud Boy Ethan Nordean argues the government failed to notify the defense in time that prosecutors planned to use the video.
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I really really hope investigators are following up on this one. https://www.vice.com/en/article/k7bjxv/libsoftiktok-capitol-ri
After appearing in an on-camera interview with Tucker Carlson, some experts think they've now placed Chaya Raichik at the Capitol riot.
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LessthanLoneWolf 1/3/2023 5:25 PM
For real. Fuck that lady. Her rhetoric led to violence
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/3/2023 5:28 PM
And she has the gall to say the left are the violent ones. People tend to get violent when you repeatedly threaten them, dipshit.
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any right winger who gets shot by trying to attack a innocent person deserves it tbh
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self defense goes both ways asshole
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/3/2023 8:56 PM
Several retired military officers criticized Trump during his presidency, which Milley said sparked talks about retaliation that he advised against.
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LessthanLoneWolf 1/3/2023 10:00 PM
That is fucked
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LessthanLoneWolf
For real. Fuck that lady. Her rhetoric led to violence
Guy from mass 1/4/2023 6:22 AM
Anyone who advocates for violence is stupid
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Fuck her.
Anyone who advocates for violence is stupid
Ehh. I don't exactly advocate for violence against extremists who are not violent themselves, but I'm indifferent towards those who do. Like if you want to swing first at a nazi, racist, tankie or jihadi, then go ahead. idgaf.
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Guy from mass 1/4/2023 8:48 AM
I never swing first
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Unless I need to
8:49 AM
And I'll punch violent anarchists and commies who are burning down buildings too
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I feel the same way
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Cops killing civilians, capitalists letting people die of starvation, landlords evicting people in a blizzard... and this 15 year old thinks it's cool to shit on people pointing out violence is necessary to stop violence.
2:17 PM
That tracks.
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Although idk, if there was a nazi march or something, I might swing first if there's people alongside me
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Cops killing civilians, capitalists letting people die of starvation, landlords evicting people in a blizzard... and this 15 year old thinks it's cool to shit on people pointing out violence is necessary to stop violence.
I can't speak for him but I'm pretty sure he's talking about senseless violence, not violence against cops who kill innocent people and shit
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I can't speak for him but I'm pretty sure he's talking about senseless violence, not violence against cops who kill innocent people and shit
That's not been my take from the overgeneralized ignorant statements made so far.
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knuckles
I can't speak for him but I'm pretty sure he's talking about senseless violence, not violence against cops who kill innocent people and shit
Guy from mass 1/4/2023 3:33 PM
cops who are proven to have done stuff like that
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go ahead
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eye for an eye tooth for a tooth
3:34 PM
but cops who havent done wrong, aka the majority are getting harmed for crimes they havent commited
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TheAnonymousDew 1/4/2023 3:35 PM
Issue is many have been intimidated into silence
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/4/2023 3:36 PM
idk man i feel like furthering a system of penal slave labor is a crime
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the majority of cops don't speak up when their mates commit violence against unarmed civilians, so I submit to you they are, in fact, doing wrong
3:38 PM
as they say, the expression "a few bad apples" isn't intended to mean that the majority of cops are innocent: the full expression is that "a few bad apples spoil the barrel", a.k.a. corruption tends to spread.
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as they say, the expression "a few bad apples" isn't intended to mean that the majority of cops are innocent: the full expression is that "a few bad apples spoil the barrel", a.k.a. corruption tends to spread.
Guy from mass 1/4/2023 3:40 PM
again i hate when people mention that
3:41 PM
violent extremists tend to spoil anti fascist groups
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violent extremists tend to spoil anti fascist groups
Oh speak to us from your font of immortal wisdom and boundless experience oh great one. Please enlighten us with the many decades of experience you have!
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Oh speak to us from your font of immortal wisdom and boundless experience oh great one. Please enlighten us with the many decades of experience you have!
Guy from mass 1/4/2023 4:05 PM
whats with your mindless vendetta against me
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Guy from mass
whats with your mindless vendetta against me
Nothing, you've not done a single thing wrong since you got here yesterday. You've been polite and engaged honestly without resorting to insulting people personally at all. Why would I have a vendetta against you?
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Nothing, you've not done a single thing wrong since you got here yesterday. You've been polite and engaged honestly without resorting to insulting people personally at all. Why would I have a vendetta against you?
Guy from mass 1/4/2023 4:07 PM
my brother in Christ your defending mindless violence
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Please continue explaining to us how extremists spoil anti-fascist groups... I would love to hear your first hand account of examples.
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none of this is helpful, really
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/4/2023 4:09 PM
And before you start citing examples, check my pinned comment in #general-chat.
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my brother in Christ your defending mindless violence
That's why I created a rules of engagement after speaking for dozens of hours with special forces operators/officers with first hand experience on the ground fighting fascist forces in other countries. Yup... mindless violence. (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/4/2023 4:09 PM
Quite a few examples of antifascists being violent were actually right-wingers masquerading as them.
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4:11 PM
And for the record, I've actually seen violent extremists ruin an antifascist group. This is nothing.
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The first one standing on it's own isn't a big deal. The second one... oof.
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AvoidOblivion 1/4/2023 4:18 PM
That second one is disgusting. Major red flags present.
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I'm agnostic but big fucking OOF
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/4/2023 4:20 PM
BashTheFash is one step away from becoming a terrorist group in my eyes.
4:20 PM
Whether that's due to some cointelpro bs, I can't be sure.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
BashTheFash is one step away from becoming a terrorist group in my eyes.
Examples?
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Whether that's due to some cointelpro bs, I can't be sure.
I'm pretty good at spotting them.
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are those examples of fed plants? 🙂
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are those examples of fed plants? 🙂
Out of context can't be sure... but if it looks like a fed, and talks like a fed.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/4/2023 4:22 PM
I think the first one might just be a dumb kid. The second one though, maybe.
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Examples?
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/4/2023 4:24 PM
I didn't screencap it due to me noping the hell out of that group after seeing it, but an alarming amount of folks were behind the burning churches suggestion. (edited)
4:25 PM
When I tried to explain it to the admin, he asked if I "thought this was debatethefash" and blocked me. (edited)
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I didn't screencap it due to me noping the hell out of that group after seeing it, but an alarming amount of folks were behind the burning churches suggestion. (edited)
Ahh that was from bashthefash... ok.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/4/2023 4:26 PM
At the very least, nobody in the group said "Whoa, wait a minute, tone it down there." or the like.
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Guy from mass 1/4/2023 4:28 PM
UP THE RA!!!
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The first one standing on it's own isn't a big deal. The second one... oof.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/4/2023 4:29 PM
all that would do is piss them off further anyways
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UP THE RA!!!
Guy from mass 1/4/2023 4:31 PM
in the troubles the ira was pretty fucked up but before that they where good (edited)
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in the troubles the ira was pretty fucked up but before that they where good (edited)
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/4/2023 4:44 PM
What happened to "not advocating violence"?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
What happened to "not advocating violence"?
Guy from mass 1/4/2023 4:48 PM
unless necessary
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in the troubles the ira was pretty fucked up but before that they where good (edited)
LessthanLoneWolf 1/4/2023 4:56 PM
That’s because there was a split in the IRA between the traditional IRA snd the Provisional IRA, the “ Provo’s” of the troubles
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
BashTheFash is one step away from becoming a terrorist group in my eyes.
LessthanLoneWolf 1/4/2023 4:56 PM
Really? Kinda glad I didn’t go to that discord then
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
all that would do is piss them off further anyways
And make every single grandmother and fence sitting centrist mobilize against them.
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Really? Kinda glad I didn’t go to that discord then
I'm curious, but not curious enough.
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LessthanLoneWolf 1/4/2023 5:01 PM
There’s definitely a morbid curiosity about seeing how deranged it may be, but my faith in mankind can take only so much anymore
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/4/2023 5:01 PM
Churches have been places which are never attacked for millenia now
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Soldiers in antiquity might be executed if they tried to get into a temple during the sack of a city (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/4/2023 5:05 PM
The only churches I'd be fine with being "attacked" are the massive megachurches where the pastor is clearly following the prosperity gospel. And even then, it should just be a little light vandalism.
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Churches have been places which are never attacked for millenia now
AvoidOblivion 1/4/2023 5:06 PM
That’s been a rule of war for a long time. The fact that there are people who dare call themselves anything remotely positive who also think that is disgusting.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/4/2023 5:06 PM
Even then, if you want to do it you should also recognize how abhorrent it is for your cause.
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It will do NOTHING good for it
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It won’t demoralize them, it will only anger them
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5:07 PM
Putin expected Ukraine to crumble and to terrify them but they simply became angry and look where he is now
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it also kinda conjures images of Kristallnacht
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also Evangelicals will see it as vindication for their bullshit
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
The only churches I'd be fine with being "attacked" are the massive megachurches where the pastor is clearly following the prosperity gospel. And even then, it should just be a little light vandalism.
LessthanLoneWolf 1/4/2023 5:21 PM
I hate that those are considered churches. It’s gross. If any of those parishioners actually studied their own religion they’d be appalled
5:22 PM
Nothing better than getting the opposition riled up than attacking churches, especially since it’s so integral to their identities
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/4/2023 5:23 PM
it’s so interesting how protestantism was made in part to stop the idolatry of the clergy, yet that’s exactly what’s going on in modern American protestantism
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and the current Pope, while definitely not ideal, ironically fits the Protestant humbleness more
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AvoidOblivion 1/4/2023 5:25 PM
He is surprisingly progressive. I welcome it, but he still is not doing enough to out and evict pedos, as of when I last heard.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/4/2023 5:29 PM
Also, replace "churches" with "synagogues" and this starts to sound familiar.
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LessthanLoneWolf 1/4/2023 5:29 PM
That’s because the Catholic Church is rotten to the core. You can only be so “progressive” in that kinda place
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Plus don’t evangelicals not like the pope because of the whole catholic vs Protestant… everything?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/4/2023 5:30 PM
Never forget that Nietzsche quote about monsters.
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Never forget that Nietzsche quote about monsters.
AvoidOblivion 1/4/2023 5:31 PM
I'm not in the know. What is it?
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I'm not in the know. What is it?
Those who fight monsters must beware in case they become the monsters they fight
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5:31 PM
Or something like that
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AvoidOblivion
I'm not in the know. What is it?
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/4/2023 5:32 PM
"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."
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also a good one: "Best to be mindful that when looking into the abyss, the abyss glares back"
5:32 PM
ah thank
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AvoidOblivion 1/4/2023 5:32 PM
I have heard the last part of that quote. I am certain I heard the full quote at some point, but must have forgotten it.
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I'm not a fan of Nietzche (for a lot of reasons) but that quote is spot on
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AvoidOblivion 1/4/2023 5:33 PM
That quote highlights why the left-wing will have a lot of trouble taking control from the right. The right is not afraid to get dirty and hurt innocents.
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That quote highlights why the left-wing will have a lot of trouble taking control from the right. The right is not afraid to get dirty and hurt innocents.
LessthanLoneWolf 1/4/2023 5:34 PM
And you can only do so much before you turn into that which you fought against
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TBH that quote does have...limitations I argue
5:35 PM
there's a reason I prefer more of Sartre's approach
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And you can only do so much before you turn into that which you fought against
AvoidOblivion 1/4/2023 5:36 PM
You can go only so far before you "become the very thing you swore to destroy," in the words of beautiful warrior-monk.
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MisterStompy 1/6/2023 7:20 PM
smoke that Babbitt pack today
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/11/2023 5:43 PM
A federal judge ruled Wednesday that prosecutors can use video of then-President Donald Trump telling the far-right group the Proud Boys to "stand back and stand by" in the trial against several of the group's leaders charged with seditious conspiracy.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/11/2023 9:55 PM
U.S. and Brazilian lawmakers are looking for ways to cooperate on an investigation into violent protests that rampaged through Brasilia this weekend, sharing lessons from inquiries into the attack on the U.S. Capitol, people familiar with the talks said.
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does this mean Santos gotta flee to Russia?
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I just want to see Kevin McCarthy trying to explain how it's okay to keep Santos as a sitting member of Congress even while he's sitting in a Sao Paulo jail
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joe hill’s revenge
What annoys me are Republicans who support the election fraud myth, but then won’t say January 6 was justified. Cause if they did steal it, any means necessary are justified to overturn
Not to reply to a super old comment but: Yes. I agree. And, relatedly, I have never liked the willingness to villainize the act of storming Congress in of itself, because it implies Americans can never be justified in resorting to what is one of the last defenses against tyranny. In a hypothetical where an election has been stolen and Congress is going along with a fraudulent process that will see someone unfit and tyrannical installed to power, the act of putting your life on the line to attack the capitol, however foolish or in vain, could be seen as one of the most patriotic things an American could do.
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Not to reply to a super old comment but: Yes. I agree. And, relatedly, I have never liked the willingness to villainize the act of storming Congress in of itself, because it implies Americans can never be justified in resorting to what is one of the last defenses against tyranny. In a hypothetical where an election has been stolen and Congress is going along with a fraudulent process that will see someone unfit and tyrannical installed to power, the act of putting your life on the line to attack the capitol, however foolish or in vain, could be seen as one of the most patriotic things an American could do.
The only way you know that they don't really believe the election was stolen is that they didn't storm the Capital building guns blazing. They knew their premise was false and showed it in their unwillingness to do much more than see it as a semi-violent party. We all know (or should) damn well that if they knew they were in the right, they'd have killed a lot more folks. (I'd argue that the ones who did kill the cop probably believed wholly that they were right in their violence that day.)
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/14/2023 3:22 AM
yeah, i’m really surprised gunfights didn’t break out that day
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So one truth about the civil war was that MANY soldiers in firing lines subconsciously fired high. On some level killing fellow citizens is just something that is hard for the average person to do, so much so that they subconsciously avoid it. I think that played a part, their conviction just wasn't strong enough to really "other" their fellow citizens. I also think the people pulling strings on that side are doing everything they can to fix that oversight.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/16/2023 9:28 PM
The video shows Twitter managers shrugging off staff warnings of coming violence — one day before the attack on the Capitol
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/21/2023 2:16 AM
Three active-duty Marines who work in intelligence -- one of whom allegedly espoused support for a second civil war -- were arrested this week for breaching the US Capitol building with a mob of Trump supporters on January 6, 2021.
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In fairness, I'd be a little pissed too if my last name was "Coomer".
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Those three were fed a steady diet of white crayolas.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/21/2023 5:50 AM
The Navy reservist from Virginia accused of storming the Capitol on Jan. 6 was convicted on separate charges that he illegally possessed silencers disguised to look like innocuous cleaning supplies.
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Hatchet Speed sounds like a Native name
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lol
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Oh.
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I wonder if what his birth name was
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(Assuming he wasn't given his current name) (edited)
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Chuck McWhitey
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/21/2023 2:17 PM
Dick P. Ness (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/22/2023 11:35 PM
ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — Democratic lawmakers in a handful of states are trying to send a message two years after the violent attack on the U.S. Capitol: Those who engage in an attempted overthrow of the government shouldn’t be allowed to run it.
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AS YOU SHOULD
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gravybaby420 1/23/2023 9:32 AM
it's actually wild they haven't all been charged with treason
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imagine if that crowd was waving antifa flags
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there would be a damn civil war
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/23/2023 9:33 AM
they would’ve shot us at the door
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gravybaby420 1/23/2023 9:34 AM
do you ever see a picture and wonder how it smelled where it was taken
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i actually wanted to vomit when i saw those pics of 1/6
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i just know it smells like ball sweat and dr squatch
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/23/2023 12:08 PM
A federal jury found Gravette’s Richard “BigO” Barnett, 62, guilty of eight federal charges for his participation in the January 6, 2021 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol.
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MisterStompy 1/23/2023 3:23 PM
WASHINGTON (AP) — Four members of the Oath Keepers were convicted Monday of seditious conspiracy in the Jan. 6, 2021 Capitol attack in the second major trial of far-right extremists accused of plotting to forcibly keep President Donald Trump in power.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/23/2023 3:23 PM
Good progress
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Me: I hate federal raids! Also Me: When do we get a Ready or Not map based on taking down the rest of these traitorous fucks? https://apnews.com/article/oath-keepers-seditious-conspiracy-conviction-2b9fb724c9839524d00ee389959e0e62?taid=63cee476056e6000019f1d76&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/23/2023 5:58 PM
There is the penthouse map where you're busting a right-wing militia that tried to kill a senator.
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The Left Behind is a ultra-nationalist domestic terrorist group in Ready or Not that is composed of veterans and service-people. This group is proud of their service and believe they deserve better treatment for their status. The Left Behind won't hesitate to use weapons and violence in an attempt to get what they want. Kevlar or Ceramic armor C...
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/23/2023 6:11 PM
i heard the game's comunity content is pretty good
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/23/2023 6:26 PM
Also the game pokes fun of the "good guy with a gun" fantasy as someone tried that in the convenience store robbery level and got shot dead for it by the robbers. (edited)
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So RoN may be prime copaganda, but at least it's willing to rag on rightoids.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/23/2023 8:17 PM
RoN is good anti-copaganda too because it shows how they’re a reaction force in many situations and don’t actually improve the outcome (edited)
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Like in the night club one
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/23/2023 8:18 PM
Carmen Hernandez, attorney for Zach REHL, now asking the FBI case agent about this part of the Proud Boys initiation manual.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/23/2023 8:18 PM
LMAO WHAT???
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 1/23/2023 8:20 PM
No wonder these meatheads are so angry.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
No wonder these meatheads are so angry.
By design.
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Me: I hate federal raids! Also Me: When do we get a Ready or Not map based on taking down the rest of these traitorous fucks? https://apnews.com/article/oath-keepers-seditious-conspiracy-conviction-2b9fb724c9839524d00ee389959e0e62?taid=63cee476056e6000019f1d76&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter
AIF Cuirassier regiment 1/23/2023 10:02 PM
I would like to suggest a form of punishment for those convicted https://youtu.be/SJsabkWqwTs
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Ban nationalism from public office. Public office is for the citizen -inevitably internationalist and our infrastructure is “for all”. We paid the price already winning ww2 -a not easy war against nationalism. Lessons from that should be realized. Expressions of nationalism should be regulated out of infrastructure including office. Expression among the public are another thing.
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This is conservative
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Define nationalism
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Define nationalism
Honestly it's such a fuzzy and complex word
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Can mean a lot of different things
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But my guess is that vitamins' would probably be the idea that you are part of a group of similar people, based on ethno-linguistic-religious-cultural-... lines and that your group deserves a place to live at the expense of people outside of this group, and that they should get preferential treatment
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Unpopular opnion but imo there is no "American nation" for exemple. You can have white nationalism, black nationalism, protestant nationalism, Latino nationalism, etc... but what unites America is a set of ideals
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Just like in Russia, you don't have a Russian nationality as in everyone living in Russia, but the Russian ethnigroup in particular, which is going to place itself in a position of power at the expense of Ukrainian, turks, chechens, etc....
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Similarly america has so many different groups with different culture, religion, etc... that there is no "standard American" person if that makes sense
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Define nationalism
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/25/2023 3:07 PM
Toxic patriotism.
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Yeah. National symbolism. Nationalist talk. Patriotism that’s symbolized. Allegiance pressure. It’s used politically to dehumanize an other, inevitably. Media control, and populace control happens. Going far it spins off against communities even within the country. Institutions can exist without it.
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Performances of patriotism in infrastructure. In mainstreams. Building the patriot performance contest. The invasion of iraq 2003 used hazardous nationalism that build antimuslim narratives -as an example. That nationalism tolerated… spinning out now a hazard eating at even gop appreciation of the constitution. They’ll loudly perform as “the real patriots” as they work to end voting and more.
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Don’t let dehumanizing anyone happen.
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Don’t let “special people” talk carry in infrastructure. Turns into dehumanizing another.
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joe hill’s revenge
Hatchet speed?
Someone who got kicked out of being a Juggalo but kept his nickname out of spite?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/9/2023 9:38 PM
Former Vice President Mike Pence has been subpoenaed by the special counsel overseeing investigations into efforts by former President Donald Trump and his allies to overturn the results of the 2020 election, according to a person with direct knowledge of the event.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/13/2023 5:16 AM
He doesn't breathe fire or hog the limelight like other Trump loyalists — but that's Scott Perry's secret weapon
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/19/2023 5:45 PM
Text messages released Tuesday between Proud Boys leader Henry “Enrique” Tarrio and a lieutenant from the Washington, D.C., Metropolitan Police Department’s (MPD) Intelligence Bureau (IB) shed light on the department’s relationship with the Proud Boys ahead of the Jan. 6 insurrection.
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time to weaponize disinfo to sabotage proud boys?
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It's about time we do that
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I propose a fake version of libsoftiktok that gives fake coordinates to split them
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bonus if we use gop strongholds as the coordinates
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takes them a moment to realize they've been played
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That might work until they realize they're getting played though
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then change accounts
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maybe some "fake" meetings that look like antifia was there, bait them with seemingly true sites
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then target with fakes
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Hmmmmmmm.... that could work
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By Danny Hakim
She would not discuss specific indictments in the special grand jury’s report but noted that its recommendations were “not going to be some giant plot twist.”
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/27/2023 12:05 PM
guy at jan 6th with a panda head got arrested
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Henry ‘Enrique’ Tarrio aligned plans with Trump ‘stop the steal’ campaign organizers, knowing by Jan. 6 that followers might explode into violence, U.S. says.
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Terrorism by state definition is one I see
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“I want them to be fearful,” Tarrio reassured
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Explicit claims to be ‘the fall guy for tomorrow’s cause’ supply intent and reason
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/7/2023 4:02 PM
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell called the Fox News host's portrayal a "mistake," while Sen. Kevin Cramer said it was “just a lie” to compare Jan. 6 to a peaceful protest.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/7/2023 4:04 PM
I love infighting
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Is it just me or do I want a republican party that didn't view democracy or human rights as obstacles. Now some republicans that believe in republicanism still exist, like Mitt Romney, they are just on the outs and are getting replaced by radicals.
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Depending on what you mean by "democracy," technically no, that is opposed to core Republican principles
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Republicans want more republicanism instead of more democracy. They want representatives doing more things and ordinary voters doing less things
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But if you mean shit like questioning the validity of elections that were reviewed a million times, or intentionally suppressing the vote with ID laws... Then yeah, this is something the Republicans must turn away from
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Republican losers in the past didn't do the shit they've been doing since 2016 and especially 2020
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They just conceded
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and tried again next election cycle
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We also had a society more willing to literally punch someone for doing and saying stupid shit
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Hell, it depends on what you mean by "human rights" even. If you count things like gay marriage as human rights, then no, it is quite impossible to be a conservative political party and not want to infringe on "human rights," if that is your definition
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Even if the law didn't give consequences to their actions, a good punch to the face was a good substitute
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Tbh wasn't there proof that the DNC was biased against Bernie in 2016?
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and Bernie and his supporters didn't go nearly as crazy as Trump did
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imo the best form of conservatism is simply personal conservatism, not political
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Holding conservative views personally and living by them,
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but being liberal/libertarian politically, not caring about enforcing conservatism on others via government
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Tbh wasn't there proof that the DNC was biased against Bernie in 2016?
Not just biased but openly conspired to prevent his nomination. Also Hilary created a funding contract with the DNC and State Dem Parties that allowed her to threaten to withhold all of the DNC funding from state and national candidates if the state parties backed anyone but herself. Then she used that contract to threaten them with that exact outcome when it looked like Bernie was catching up.
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The DNC was taken to court over multiple counts of this, and it was found that Yes, they did all this... but also that because it was internal to the Party, they had a right to. Proving that the "Primary" election process is a sham. Incidentally, the Democrats created this so they wouldn't have another upset of Dem Status Quo like before (I think it was McGovern that upset Dem party leadership to take the nomination in 1972 and losing to Nixon). The history of Democrat leadership putting up milquetoast centrists to oppose right wing GOP is certainly older than I've been alive. And the fact that a progressive upset the party oligarchs once was enough for them to ensure it never happened again.
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Former Vice President Mike Pence on Saturday harshly criticized former President Donald Trump for his role in the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol, widening the rift between the two men as they prepare to battle over the Republican nomination in next year's election.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/12/2023 4:38 PM
“JUST IN: Prosecutors offered their fullest repsonse to Tucker Carlson's Chansley footage, noting that the aired portion covers about 4 minutes of his 1 hour inside the Capitol And it omits the vast evidence that is damaging to Chansley, they say. https://t.co/SaQyIJrqx7”
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TheAnonymousDew 3/12/2023 10:49 PM
They're wasting their time
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Tucker Carlson will only show his viewers what they want to see
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not necessarily. Its to smear Carlson
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to sow distrust of him in those few centralists
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or older, not quite lost
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TheAnonymousDew 3/14/2023 8:34 PM
But I hope Dominion and Smartmatic lay the hammer on Fox (edited)
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Force them on air during every show admit they were lying to viewers
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Dominion is having a Field day in court
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They're just as rich as Murdoch
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Aces high
They're just as rich as Murdoch
Aren't they also responsible for like half of all ATMs used in banking world wide?
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I think so
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Fox fucked up
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they fucked up bad
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I'm thinking of Diebold...
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regardless, they got their machines in VERY state
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they got money to burn
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Dominion Voting Systems, owned by Staple Street Capital, the founders of which are former executives of The Carlyle Group. About all Murdoch has to cover his ass on this one is what got him into trouble in the first place. Once Staple Street Capital calls in their Carlyle Group favors, Murdoch might have to sell Fox.
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so we might see the collapse of fox
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my god
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 3/15/2023 3:06 AM
I'll make sure to chug water beforehand so I have plenty of piss for the ashes.
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Dominion Voting Systems, owned by Staple Street Capital, the founders of which are former executives of The Carlyle Group. About all Murdoch has to cover his ass on this one is what got him into trouble in the first place. Once Staple Street Capital calls in their Carlyle Group favors, Murdoch might have to sell Fox.
TheAnonymousDew 3/15/2023 12:07 PM
That takes away one huge arm of the RW misinformation machine
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Newsmax and OAN are also being sued and have even less money than Fox doess
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TheAnonymousDew 3/15/2023 12:17 PM
The Dominion lawsuit could destroy the entire RW misinformation machine
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I hope to god it does
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it be beautiful
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TheAnonymousDew
The Dominion lawsuit could destroy the entire RW misinformation machine
Fingers crossed.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/15/2023 4:15 PM
Can someone summarise this for me?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/15/2023 4:16 PM
Fox news lied about the reliability of Dominion voting machines, Dominion is suing them for defamation and almost certain to win
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@AIF Cuirassier regiment
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The financial losses alone are going to be substantial, plus punitive damages pushed for by the Carlyle Group Lawyers...could be the largest damaged awarded in such a case in history. Billions possibly.
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Given the reach of Fox News Network and the number of different affiliates and on air personalities involved in the attempt to defame Dominion.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Fox news lied about the reliability of Dominion voting machines, Dominion is suing them for defamation and almost certain to win
AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/15/2023 4:31 PM
Oh shit, thats going to be one of the few defamation cases that actually go through then
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Given the reach of Fox News Network and the number of different affiliates and on air personalities involved in the attempt to defame Dominion.
TheAnonymousDew 3/15/2023 5:33 PM
And would be a powerful deterrent against this happening again
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Fox is the most powerful RW rag
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It'll totally depend on the judge/s because Fox will appeal to the SCOTUS
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And dominion could buy out and crush the Federalists
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And dominion could buy out and crush the Federalists
Not sure the company itself can, even being the primary provider of voting systems in this hemisphere doesn't bring in a huge revenue stream... but the investment group that owns it probably can.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 5/5/2023 11:28 PM
The sentencing recommendations come a day after jurors in a different case also convicted four leaders of the Proud Boys of seditious conspiracy in connection with the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.
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AvoidOblivion 5/25/2023 7:39 AM
A photo of Richard Barnett seated at a desk in then-Speaker Nancy Pelosi's office became one of the most indelible images of Jan. 6.
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MisterStompy 5/25/2023 4:45 PM
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/9/2023 9:35 PM
Jay Johnston, an actor who appeared in many comedies, was arrested Wednesday and charged with felony obstruction of officers, as well as several misdemeanors.
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Braakinthesaddle 6/26/2023 8:51 PM
It is not known what the agents’ proximity to Trump was on Jan. 6 or what information they may have provided to the grand jury.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 7/6/2023 5:23 PM
Trump was indicted on 37 felony counts stemming from one of two federal investigations overseen by Smith.
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joe hill’s revenge 7/6/2023 5:42 PM
“Put out to rest” that’s a death threat right?
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yup
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 7/6/2023 5:43 PM
Sounds like it.
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and Smith is actually good at his job and knows how to charge a b*tchs
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see every time Cannon tries to ratfuck the case
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joe hill’s revenge
“Put out to rest” that’s a death threat right?
even earlier
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Truth Social is America's "Big Tent" social media platform that encourages an open, free, and honest global conversation without discriminating on the basis of political ideology.
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Called on his supporters to "explain to . . . Jack Smith, his family, and his friends"
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as if Smith doesn't have a case against said supporters
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at this point, they're giving him free evidence
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even earlier
DevilTheAutopoet 7/19/2023 3:17 PM
The Espionage Act has been used numerous times in very high profile cases. It applies to everyone, including Presidents. And there is literally nothing whatsoever in the Presidential Records Act that allows a former President to willfully remove classified documents from the White House, retain them in spite of subpoenas from the NARA, keep them in insecure locations, and display them to people who don't have clearance.
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SORRY FOR TWITTER POST BUT OY, GEORGIA CASE FINALLY UPDATED
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 7/21/2023 6:08 PM
Oh great, this means he will be in Atlanta.
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If/when Trump is forced to go to prison, I will eagerly await the drooling magats attempt to violently storm said prison or federal offices. Because there's no way any LEO or CO that isn't chugging the same Kool aid is going to tolerate that bullshit again at J6.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 7/22/2023 10:05 PM
they will fuck around, and they will find out that they are not allowed past the pearly gates
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We can only hope they try
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Stolas_of_the_Stars 7/27/2023 1:39 PM
I'm game! FAFO time soon!
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Former US President Donald Trump has been criminally charged with conspiring to defraud the US by trying to overturn 2020 election result Follow live ⬇
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also appropriate
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for several reasons
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MisterStompy 8/1/2023 11:58 PM
"The Enforcement Act of 1870 is still on the books, but there are no more Confederates to prosecute" 💖 744
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MisterStompy 8/2/2023 5:07 PM
OH FUCK THEY FOUND THE SINGLE FLAW, WE'RE SCREWED
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MisterStompy
OH FUCK THEY FOUND THE SINGLE FLAW, WE'RE SCREWED
DevilTheAutopoet 8/2/2023 5:26 PM
It's so over. /s
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DevilTheAutopoet
It's so over. /s
MisterStompy 8/2/2023 5:26 PM
It's Joever 😔
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/2/2023 6:31 PM
Oh no, he made a typo.
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OH FUCK THEY FOUND THE SINGLE FLAW, WE'RE SCREWED
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MisterStompy 8/2/2023 7:52 PM
Today's indictment serves as an important reminder: anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be President of the United States. 💖 65098
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IN FIGHTING
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/2/2023 9:31 PM
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How many more indictments can he get this month
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Seems like it’s just about everything
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Gonna be interesting to see if GOP do a lot of “oh no I wasn’t in on it I’m not fash like Trump” and throw him under the bus and then more of them be like “Wut u mean? This is only happening cuz Trump wasn’t fash enough u woke guy”
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They'll triple down.
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and break
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DeSatan made too much waves against Democrats, and as such might be a easier target then Trump
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but his supporters and Trump's supporters will fight
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Gonna be interesting to see if GOP do a lot of “oh no I wasn’t in on it I’m not fash like Trump” and throw him under the bus and then more of them be like “Wut u mean? This is only happening cuz Trump wasn’t fash enough u woke guy”
really depends on a person per person basis
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pence is a douche, but he's been pretty consistent in opposing trump since jan 6
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RaiseRuntimeError 8/5/2023 9:47 PM
I made an audio version of the recent indictment for Trump. Feel free to share it. download it, use it however you want. https://soundcloud.com/nugrorkfogthorn/united-states-of-america-v-donald-trump
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/6/2023 3:08 AM
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Honestly I'd very much like them to try shit now in one go so they can easily be crushed
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my fucking god
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Yeah, like if you care about evidence the case is essentially air tight
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MisterStompy 9/1/2023 5:13 PM
Jurors reach verdicts in a long-running trial of members of the far-right group over Jan 6 riots.
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Former Proud Boys Chairman Enrique Tarrio was sentenced Tuesday to 22 years in prison for seditious conspiracy and leading a failed plot to prevent the transfer of power from Donald Trump to Joe Biden.
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Yay!!! 🎆🎆🎆
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One bit: Before he was sentenced, Tarrio apologized for the “pain and suffering” that law enforcement, legislators, and others suffered on January 6, and vowed to have “nothing to do with politics, groups, activism or rallies.”
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100% he's lying
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100% he's lying
Totally agree
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Honestly I'd very much like them to try shit now in one go so they can easily be crushed
All of this has set the stage for RICO against extremist groups of which trumpers are classified as. Seriously with the social media posts just available now there is enough to count every right wing extremist org as a criminal org. They pull the trigger on their threats... it'll be game over, prison population will boom with a whole lot of white folks.
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And likely the morgue with it
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All of this has set the stage for RICO against extremist groups of which trumpers are classified as. Seriously with the social media posts just available now there is enough to count every right wing extremist org as a criminal org. They pull the trigger on their threats... it'll be game over, prison population will boom with a whole lot of white folks.
tbh I'm for this, absolutely. Legally right wing fash groups work hilariously like a idiot mafia. It fits. Likewise, doesn't rico also fuck with corrupt cops?
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And likely the morgue with it
my question: who's bodies?
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Preferably the fascists's. But in all reality the answer is probably yes
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All of this has set the stage for RICO against extremist groups of which trumpers are classified as. Seriously with the social media posts just available now there is enough to count every right wing extremist org as a criminal org. They pull the trigger on their threats... it'll be game over, prison population will boom with a whole lot of white folks.
PopeHat is about to have an aneurysm
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It's actually RICO
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