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Graphic designer, here.
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I am aware it’s pretty empty in here right now, but it would be a good idea to come up with a branding identity for iron front going forward. Establishing a general color palette and type faces to use for posters, stickers, etc. so that visual communications are unified will create a stronger voice.
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Skullmaggot 6/29/2022 2:26 PM
@Marusya Nice to have you aboard! I’m also a graphic designer, but right now I’m playing at information management and human resources to get ourselves organized! The discord and group are still pretty young. Mostly I’d be asking people at this point what sort of information they may need.
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Skullmaggot
@Marusya Nice to have you aboard! I’m also a graphic designer, but right now I’m playing at information management and human resources to get ourselves organized! The discord and group are still pretty young. Mostly I’d be asking people at this point what sort of information they may need.
Awesome. Hello designer friend! Seems like the initial set up is the hardest part. What sort of things do you need help with right now? Design or else?
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Skullmaggot 6/29/2022 2:39 PM
@Marusya Haha, leadership and recruitment, I guess. Right now, we’re getting a feel for peoples’ expertises and we’re seeing who’s stepping up. I don’t think we’re at the point to have leaders yet, as I’d imagine leadership means taking actions and risks. I think we may have more luck in the coming days as I talk with people in the information management sector and we get organized in terms of our information and personnel. If you want to do something yourself, there are other graphic designers (in the introductions channel). Do you want to speak with them at all and bounce around ideas? People are also asking for graphics for protest resources. I believe we’ve been posting things in the protests channel—there’s already a lot going on, I’m not sure if I can keep track of it all—so maybe direct people there or if you know graphics you can provide yourself, post them. We’re just jumping into everything at the moment, so if you see anyone asking for help then lend a hand.
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Dr_Diskette 6/29/2022 2:41 PM
@Marusya hi! Here are some examples for you to take a look at https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1T8H2VC5J2lP2PSb3DyY8VD72WKiRtH2A
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Skullmaggot
@Marusya Haha, leadership and recruitment, I guess. Right now, we’re getting a feel for peoples’ expertises and we’re seeing who’s stepping up. I don’t think we’re at the point to have leaders yet, as I’d imagine leadership means taking actions and risks. I think we may have more luck in the coming days as I talk with people in the information management sector and we get organized in terms of our information and personnel. If you want to do something yourself, there are other graphic designers (in the introductions channel). Do you want to speak with them at all and bounce around ideas? People are also asking for graphics for protest resources. I believe we’ve been posting things in the protests channel—there’s already a lot going on, I’m not sure if I can keep track of it all—so maybe direct people there or if you know graphics you can provide yourself, post them. We’re just jumping into everything at the moment, so if you see anyone asking for help then lend a hand.
Sounds great. I will take a peek around and see what I can offer to support.
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GG @Marusya, you just advanced to level 1!
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Dr_Diskette 6/29/2022 2:42 PM
we are in the beginning stages of everything while I would love to rush and get things started ASAP a 50 state operation is gonna take some time
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we are in the beginning stages of everything while I would love to rush and get things started ASAP a 50 state operation is gonna take some time
Naturally. I am currently not in school for the summer and am self employed, so I have some time on my hands if/when you need help.
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Dr_Diskette 6/29/2022 2:48 PM
I just finished college as a DA major so I get it
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I just finished college as a DA major so I get it
Is DA data analytics?
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Dr_Diskette 6/29/2022 2:51 PM
Sorry digital arts
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Sorry digital arts
Oh okay, that makes sense. Very cool. Congrats on graduating (:
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NordicThor_ 6/29/2022 2:52 PM
I’ve got GIS skills if we ever need any kind of maps for graphics 👍 definitely not a super whiz but I can definitely get the point across well
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DiscleavingNoise 6/29/2022 5:13 PM
Graphic Designer/comic artist here, part of Cali chapter. Wanting to introduce myself and offer my expertise. I'm bad at being oniline but am pushing myself to engage online more haha
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Hello, sharing a quick flyer mock up. Open to constructive criticism and feedback.
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Skullmaggot 6/29/2022 6:58 PM
@Marusya It looks like we’ll be adding QR codes in the near future, so you might want space for that.
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Hello, sharing a quick flyer mock up. Open to constructive criticism and feedback.
Hm, the lightning bolt should go through the hand imo And maybe make it less ink-intensive aka reduce the graphics of the hand so we're not using more
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Dr_Diskette 6/29/2022 8:35 PM
Ok artist this is most likely gonna be the artwork we are gonna use for this however you are welcome to make others with the QR code aswell
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The QR should send straight to R/ironfrontusa (edited)
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@Marusya I love your design as well so if you want to put a QR on it aswell we will do both pictures
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We are planning a potential event on the 4th, we are working on an official announcement
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Skullmaggot 6/29/2022 11:44 PM
@Dr_Diskette Don't you mean r/IronFrontUSA?
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Dr_Diskette 6/29/2022 11:47 PM
Yes sorry
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Skullmaggot 6/29/2022 11:52 PM
@Dr_Diskette I'm just reading over everything and putting stuff in a text document.
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Dr_Diskette 6/30/2022 12:02 AM
Dig it
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Skullmaggot 6/30/2022 1:18 AM
@Marusya Hello, if in the future we would create an Iron Front website, would you be interested in helping its development?
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@Marusya Hello, if in the future we would create an Iron Front website, would you be interested in helping its development?
Totally! I’m game for that.
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Skullmaggot 6/30/2022 1:30 AM
@Marusya Okay, thank you. We might end up having a wiki up as well.
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NordicThor_ 6/30/2022 1:55 PM
You guys may be working on this already, but it would be great if we had a branding package. The SRA does this as a free resource for its members.
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NordicThor_
You guys may be working on this already, but it would be great if we had a branding package. The SRA does this as a free resource for its members.
I agree. I mentioned this in an earlier message, but it would be great if we could have a design strategy and branding meeting.
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Deleted User 6/30/2022 1:57 PM
i like that idea
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Skullmaggot 6/30/2022 2:04 PM
@NordicThor_ Good idea. Noted.
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@Marusya @NordicThor_ @Deleted User Do you want to just hold your own meeting?
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Marusya
I agree. I mentioned this in an earlier message, but it would be great if we could have a design strategy and branding meeting.
Braakinthesaddle 6/30/2022 2:05 PM
There will be an initial meet and greet meeting tomorrow at 6pm PT if you would like to join that ad well
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@Marusya @NordicThor_ @Deleted User Do you want to just hold your own meeting?
We can do that. Joining the initial meeting would be very helpful imo.
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Deleted User 6/30/2022 2:05 PM
i agree
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The design should be influenced by the mission.
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Deleted User 6/30/2022 2:06 PM
we could also have our own meeting but we need to coordinate
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How do we feel about joining the initial meeting and then planning for a design strat meeting?
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Deleted User 6/30/2022 2:07 PM
i concur
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that makes the most sense
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prehaps for simplicty one of us goes as a rep for everyone
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Skullmaggot 6/30/2022 2:14 PM
@Deleted User There’s a discussion about branding going on in the flyers and stickers channel. I’m going to be getting to work, so I may not be as available for the rest of the day.
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Deleted User 6/30/2022 2:14 PM
ok
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ill go check it out
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@Deleted User @NordicThor_ @vort does anyone have experience using a design sharing platform like figma?
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Deleted User 6/30/2022 3:02 PM
i do not
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If we could start laying out some visual ideas there, we can keep track of what we have explored.
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NordicThor_ 6/30/2022 3:03 PM
No, I honestly have little graphic design skills other than like GIMP and basic shit like that haha
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But I can paint a mean car on Forza! I have the eye, just not the artistic ability :)
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Okay. I’m going to check out if figma is free to use. I’d like to keep the convo going, but in a place that is more constructive to the visual elements that we are discussing
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Marusya
Okay. I’m going to check out if figma is free to use. I’d like to keep the convo going, but in a place that is more constructive to the visual elements that we are discussing
NordicThor_ 6/30/2022 3:05 PM
meaning here, or did you have a different channel or something in mind?
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NordicThor_
meaning here, or did you have a different channel or something in mind?
Figma is an app of sorts.
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Marusya
@Deleted User @NordicThor_ @vort does anyone have experience using a design sharing platform like figma?
Yes, I have some experience with graphic design (not sure if FIGMA is free but I've used it
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NordicThor_ 6/30/2022 3:06 PM
OHHH I gotcha!
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Let’s you drag and drop pictures of things and add comments
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Yes, I have some experience with graphic design (not sure if FIGMA is free but I've used it
Nice.
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NordicThor_ 6/30/2022 3:07 PM
Probably something to mention to InfoSec when they get going, just to make sure they don't see an issue
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NordicThor_
Probably something to mention to InfoSec when they get going, just to make sure they don't see an issue
Good point
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can we get a ping when the meeting is going to start?
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Kryptik
can we get a ping when the meeting is going to start?
For the design strategy meeting?
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yes, I have to head back from work, but should be home around 5 - just wanted to know if/when I need to tune in on the ride
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And could anybody make meeting minutes? I won't have the ability to attend since I'm at work
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yes, I have to head back from work, but should be home around 5 - just wanted to know if/when I need to tune in on the ride
For sure. I don’t think anything will happen today, but I am going to ask infosec if they’re okay with a figma file setup and then try to get going with some asynchronous brainstorming.
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Also need to figure out the preferred method of conducting a meeting for security.
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Skullmaggot 6/30/2022 3:12 PM
Hello, I’m playing at an information management and human resources role. I know direction will be difficult until it is better formalized in the meeting. But, if you ever need anything to succeed, let me know.
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Skullmaggot
Hello, I’m playing at an information management and human resources role. I know direction will be difficult until it is better formalized in the meeting. But, if you ever need anything to succeed, let me know.
How do you feel about me setting up a shared file for designers?
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GG @Marusya, you just advanced to level 4!
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And could anybody make meeting minutes? I won't have the ability to attend since I'm at work
I'll audio record everything for brainstorming - remind me to put it up. It's good to keep records for the various townhalls imo
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Skullmaggot 6/30/2022 3:13 PM
@Kryptik @Farren posted a time in the general channel.
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infosec permitting ofc
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Skullmaggot
Hello, I’m playing at an information management and human resources role. I know direction will be difficult until it is better formalized in the meeting. But, if you ever need anything to succeed, let me know.
We are trying to brainstorm some visuals and get a mood board going. Figma can be secure.
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Skullmaggot 6/30/2022 3:14 PM
@vort @Farren is taking meeting minutes.
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@Kryptik @Farren posted a time in the general channel.
I don't see it?
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GG @Kryptik, you just advanced to level 3!
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Skullmaggot 6/30/2022 3:15 PM
@Marusya Infosec is a top priority in the upcoming meeting. Edit: It was not top priority in the meeting. (edited)
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@Marusya You can go ahead and take initiative. However, I am also attempting to apply some brakes because there’s a lot of things already going to be discussed and formalized.
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@Marusya A shared file is good.
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@Marusya You can go ahead and take initiative. However, I am also attempting to apply some brakes because there’s a lot of things already going to be discussed and formalized.
Okay perfect. Thank you.
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Here is a link to figma for ideas
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You can create a free account and start dropping ideas into the mood board.
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@vort @NordicThor_ @Kryptik @Skullmaggot @Deleted User
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file is locked
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try making it public by link?
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@Marusya
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Try this one
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I will work on the doc when I have access to a pc. ty though👍
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Sounds great @Kryptik
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If this wasn’t one of y’all I might reach out to this person.
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NordicThor_ 6/30/2022 4:18 PM
I'm actually doing that as we speak
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GG @NordicThor_, you just advanced to level 4!
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NordicThor_ 6/30/2022 4:18 PM
he's got some skills!
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@Marusya I'm back!
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Skullmaggot 6/30/2022 11:15 PM
@TalkingFish Hello, are you trying to get in touch with other graphic designers? @Marusya has a shared file set up.
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I love that swastifix, (or crustica?) But it might be a good idea to highlight the cross within a bit more to make it obvious. Some people are kinda fuckin dumb and will just wonder why that swastika has a long leg 🦵
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Caydo 23 Pieces Screen Printing Starter kit Include 3 Different Size of Wood Silk Screen Printing Frame with Mesh, Screen Printing Squeegees, Inkjet Transparency Film, Ink Knife, and Mask Tape
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RE- convo on the flyers channel, "Abort the Court" is an excellent version that is, um, less violent? Could mean anything yknow?
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KaiAt516
RE- convo on the flyers channel, "Abort the Court" is an excellent version that is, um, less violent? Could mean anything yknow?
Good point
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#graphic-designers Since we discussed this a couple of days ago, who has time for a design strategy meeting this week? Since Monday is the 4th, I think Wednesday, Thursday or Friday could be a good time to meet.
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Marusya
#graphic-designers Since we discussed this a couple of days ago, who has time for a design strategy meeting this week? Since Monday is the 4th, I think Wednesday, Thursday or Friday could be a good time to meet.
Dr_Diskette 7/2/2022 2:07 PM
Agreed, I start my new job on the 5th I’ll give y’all a heads up when I find out my job hrs
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RE- convo on the flyers channel, "Abort the Court" is an excellent version that is, um, less violent? Could mean anything yknow?
I like it! anything rhyme-y gets my vote
Marusya started a thread. 7/4/2022 12:50 PM
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Does anyone have a high res image or vector of the logo used for r/ironFrontUSA? I think it is the best design we have for the AIF and I would like to use it in materials.
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This logo features the arrows of the Iron Front, large and prominent, and (without text) conveys that this is the new American faction which is distinct from the original
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The Captain America version has to shrink the arrows to make room for the triple rings -- making them less prominent -- but even then it still isn't completely clear that this logo refers to the American faction and it requires a ring of text to state as much. (edited)
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I do like the 2nd logo, but I think the first one is a more powerful brand. Does anyone have an .svg?
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I don’t have an svg but it would be real easy to make one.
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If I have time to get to it I can make one unless someone finds one before me.
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I personally don’t like the second logo. The font feels really dated and the spacing between the letters needs to be fixed.
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The first one is more refined, and that second one has potential, just needs some work. I will see what I can get to today to help out.
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Skullmaggot 7/5/2022 1:26 AM
@Marusya Hey! First projects!
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@Marusya Hey! First projects!
I know, very exciting
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Skullmaggot 7/5/2022 1:27 AM
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Does anyone have a high res image or vector of the logo used for r/ironFrontUSA? I think it is the best design we have for the AIF and I would like to use it in materials.
I successfully recreated this logo. I guess a concern is, do we know why there are only 7 stars in the logo? I find that number to be a bit arbitrary.
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This is a screen grab of my vector.
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Dr_Diskette 7/5/2022 5:57 PM
Ooo
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That is clean as fuck dawg! Great work, I'll start using it in my materials as soon as I get the svg! (edited)
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Good eye Nordic (edited)
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Marusya
This is a screen grab of my vector.
thechromatograph3r 7/5/2022 6:25 PM
Yum. Vector images.
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The Dozer
That is clean as fuck dawg! Great work, I'll start using it in my materials as soon as I get the svg! (edited)
Quick question though, do you know why there are only 7 stars on it? I haven’t found anything in regards to that. it’s kind of weird.
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I think the 7 stars were just chosen because that number of stars looks appropriate. Even it its arbitrary it still looks great and it communicates 'America' a lot more clearly than the Capitan America logo.
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USA! USA! USA!
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NordicThor_ 7/5/2022 6:33 PM
There’s a star that’s a little messed up on spacing…from the 9 to 10 o’clock position. Nitpicky, yeah, but important
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Otherwise GREAT work! 👍
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Good eye Nordic
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The Dozer
Good eye Nordic
I love your username and avatar lol
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I'm trying to do a lot of writing to influence AIF culture, little posts sort of inspired by the federalist papers. I needed something dope to conclude them with, like a mic drop. (edited)
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I'm trying to do a lot of writing to influence AIF culture, little posts sort of inspired by the federalist papers. I needed something dope to conclude them with, like a mic drop. (edited)
WindandGales 7/5/2022 8:01 PM
If you're comfortable sharing. What do you have so far? We can take this to private chat if you'd like
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AIF Paper 01: What if we sought to hold AIF meetings in public libraries? (edited)
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The Dozer
AIF Paper 01: What if we sought to hold AIF meetings in public libraries? (edited)
You bring up a lot of great points in this. Especially in regards to the proud boys meeting in beer halls. This is a great argument in favor of libraries.
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Thanks. Farren and I co-founded the AIF SF Bay chapter yesterday. We're going to pursue this and try to lead by example. Hopefully others will follow.
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But yeah, I'd like to make a side group just for AIF Papers, short posts which articulate a problem and advocate a clear vision for addressing it. Each paper would be a thread for its discussion. The AIF is a decentralized org and we need a way for the community to identify the hazards in front of us and get everyone oriented towards a solution that we can mostly agree on. The federalist papers envisioned what America could become and charted a path out of a very dangerous and uncertain time. That's what I want these papers to do for the AIF: present compelling visions for what we need to become and then chart the courses we need to follow to become them. Anybody can post an AIF Paper, and the community curates through 👍/👎. Dumb shit gets punted and brilliant shit gets canonized once enough people are actually working to make it happen. #The-AIF-Papers (edited)
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But yeah, I'd like to make a side group just for AIF Papers, short posts which articulate a problem and advocate a clear vision for addressing it. Each paper would be a thread for its discussion. The AIF is a decentralized org and we need a way for the community to identify the hazards in front of us and get everyone oriented towards a solution that we can mostly agree on. The federalist papers envisioned what America could become and charted a path out of a very dangerous and uncertain time. That's what I want these papers to do for the AIF: present compelling visions for what we need to become and then chart the courses we need to follow to become them. Anybody can post an AIF Paper, and the community curates through 👍/👎. Dumb shit gets punted and brilliant shit gets canonized once enough people are actually working to make it happen. #The-AIF-Papers (edited)
If we have enough content, we can start making a monthly/semi-regular zine.
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That would be pretty punk. Go analog
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The Dozer
That would be pretty punk. Go analog
Hell yes.
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A zine would be a fucking brilliant venue for the AIF papers. (edited)
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The Dozer
A zine would be a fucking brilliant venue for the AIF papers. (edited)
Wait wut… we are in the graphic design channel lol
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Now you deleted your comment
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Fuck you were too fast. I thought I was in a DM
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The Dozer
Fuck you were too fast. I thought I was in a DM
Ohhh haha
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So this is what its like to be old. I'll fetch the onions for my belt.
10:52 PM
But fuck yeah! A zine showcasing our best art and our best ideas.
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The Dozer
So this is what its like to be old. I'll fetch the onions for my belt.
It’s okay, I have to look up Gen Z phrases all the time now. I feel you.
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The Dozer
But fuck yeah! A zine showcasing our best art and our best ideas.
Can also get new people interested in iron front if it’s well done.
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NordicThor_ 7/5/2022 10:57 PM
I love this!
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I kind of see this pipeline being most common subreddit > discord > zine
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but maybe you have a point... sharing a zine would be a way for established true believers to quickly onboard friends who they think would be fellow travelers
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NordicThor_ 7/5/2022 11:01 PM
Yeah, and I think it would add legitimacy to the org in the eyes of average people
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Deleted User 7/6/2022 12:52 PM
We should post the zine on social media sites so we can have maximum reach
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Dr_Diskette 7/6/2022 12:57 PM
Thoughts on something similar to this thumbs up if you like thumbs down if not (edited)
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NordicThor_ 7/6/2022 1:12 PM
Thumbs down only because I like the idea of replacing the stars with a big 3A logo on the blue background better
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@Marusya want a power point project? I'm trying to add some AIF flair to a presentation
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Possibly. Im a little busy today. What are you looking to have done?
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Skullmaggot 7/6/2022 1:31 PM
@Marusya Ah, @Nomad jumped on things. I don’t know if you two have been introduced yet. Is your presentation about opsec? (I’m still working on old information, haven’t caught up yet.)
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@Marusya Ah, @Nomad jumped on things. I don’t know if you two have been introduced yet. Is your presentation about opsec? (I’m still working on old information, haven’t caught up yet.)
Someone DM’d me about it
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Skullmaggot 7/6/2022 1:39 PM
@Marusya Okay. @Nomad ‘s doing work on the admin team, so thanks for your help!
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@Marusya Okay. @Nomad ‘s doing work on the admin team, so thanks for your help!
No prob!
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Deleted User 7/6/2022 1:43 PM
We could use 4 stripes to represent the 4 freedoms FDR proposed. They are positive values and are rooted in American traditions
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Deleted User
We could use 4 stripes to represent the 4 freedoms FDR proposed. They are positive values and are rooted in American traditions
What are the four freedoms fdr proposed? Also thank you for posting this in the design channel.
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Deleted User 7/6/2022 1:44 PM
My pleasure
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I can link you them
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The Four Freedoms were goals articulated by U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt on Monday, January 6, 1941. In an address known as the Four Freedoms speech (technically the 1941 State of the Union address), he proposed four fundamental freedoms that people "everywhere in the world" ought to enjoy: Freedom of speech Freedom of worship Freedom ...
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Like freedom but social
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NordicThor_ 7/6/2022 1:45 PM
One caution, I came across a documentary on Netflix and noticed that the traditionalist worker’s party (or something similar) uses/used a symbol that looks similar-ish to the 3A logo
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@Marusya Ah, @Nomad jumped on things. I don’t know if you two have been introduced yet. Is your presentation about opsec? (I’m still working on old information, haven’t caught up yet.)
Yes, the OPSEC presentation
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NordicThor_ 7/6/2022 1:46 PM
The Traditionalist Worker Party (TWP) was a neo-Nazi group that advocated for racially pure nations and communities and blamed Jews for many of the world’s problems. The group was intimately allied with other prominent neo-Nazi and other hard-line racist organizations espousing unvarnished white supremacist views. For a time after 2015, the grou...
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Deleted User 7/6/2022 1:46 PM
We are going to own it no matter what
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It's ours
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NordicThor_ 7/6/2022 1:47 PM
Absolutely, just thinking that we may wanna keep that in the back of our minds
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Deleted User 7/6/2022 1:47 PM
Of course
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But hopefully our logo has more recognition I believe
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Absolutely, just thinking that we may wanna keep that in the back of our minds
I appreciate the awareness surrounding those symbols.
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But hopefully our logo has more recognition I believe
This is why we need a design meeting. To work towards stronger imagery.
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Deleted User 7/6/2022 1:50 PM
Agreed
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This is why we need a design meeting. To work towards stronger imagery.
Yes please, I want to get printing asap!
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also definitely hoping to design/get some hats made. big hat guy 🙃
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also definitely hoping to design/get some hats made. big hat guy 🙃
I happen to have about 30 navy blue hat blanks sitting around. They need to get used.
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also definitely hoping to design/get some hats made. big hat guy 🙃
NordicThor_ 7/6/2022 2:04 PM
Same!
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when we get official color scheme down I know a shop that’ll do nice raised/embroidered logos. would love a 3-arrow (does the symbol have an official name?) embroidered in white on black or navy blue 🙌🏼 #hatdreams
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Ha, yall got a cricut?
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Nomad
Ha, yall got a cricut?
I do.
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My wife does, that thing is NEAT (edited)
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Nomad
My wife does, that thing is NEAT (edited)
It’s dope as fuck
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Shes got the cricut maker
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My wife does, that thing is NEAT (edited)
I also have the maker. Mine is pink (it was cheap), and I’m going to be making stencils with it. Just imagine me creating spraypaint stencils for the revolution on a pink cricut if you want something to laugh about.
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Shes got the cricut maker
Vinyl cutters and cnc routers will also be helpful if people have those.
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Deleted User 7/6/2022 2:17 PM
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Here's a cool poster we could take inspiration from
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I think greed could work as the 3rd arrow based on this
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I also have the maker. Mine is pink (it was cheap), and I’m going to be making stencils with it. Just imagine me creating spraypaint stencils for the revolution on a pink cricut if you want something to laugh about.
NordicThor_ 7/6/2022 2:20 PM
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So that documentary (again lol) featured an organization called Life After Hate. How cool would it be to add a QR on posters/stickers for that too? https://www.lifeafterhate.org/about-us-page
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Like “Stuck in a hate group? Scan here” or something simple
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So that documentary (again lol) featured an organization called Life After Hate. How cool would it be to add a QR on posters/stickers for that too? https://www.lifeafterhate.org/about-us-page
Great idea
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Braakinthesaddle 7/6/2022 2:40 PM
This was the one I was talking about in the psyops convo, good find!
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Deleted User 7/6/2022 2:41 PM
Your welcome, it's a badass poster
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Dr_Diskette 7/6/2022 2:42 PM
When I get home I’m gonna fuck around with the stars and bars and see what I can make
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I think greed could work as the 3rd arrow based on this
I like that, like either “corporate control” or “oligarchy” or something
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Deleted User 7/6/2022 2:46 PM
Those are also good options
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I think corporate greed is a good option because most everyone is familiar with the term
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Not many people may understand what oligarchy is (edited)
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And it's more specific than corporate control
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NordicThor_ 7/6/2022 3:03 PM
With the recent Russian oligarchs getting their shit yoinked, I think more people are familiar with the term, but I’d agree that it’s still probably relatively unknown.
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do we have some sort of graphics repository yet? just looking for high quality or vectorized versions of the 3 arrows to work with
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do we have some sort of graphics repository yet? just looking for high quality or vectorized versions of the 3 arrows to work with
One of the admins created one. Can’t find it right now.
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Skullmaggot 7/6/2022 10:01 PM
@NordicThor_ @Deleted User What’re symbols representative of oligarchies?
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@egaleagle ^^^^^^
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@Marusya Do you happen to know which admin?
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@NordicThor_ @Deleted User What’re symbols representative of oligarchies?
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A look alike of the monopoly man
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Skullmaggot 7/6/2022 10:10 PM
Haha, that’s actually a pretty good one. No historical examples?
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The monopoly man is not necessarily nefarious to people. Could look goofy to fight a board game.
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NordicThor_ 7/6/2022 10:13 PM
Top hats came up in the discussion the other day
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Deleted User 7/6/2022 10:15 PM
Maybe a goatee and eye patch
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The monopoly man's evil twin
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@Marusya Do you happen to know which admin?
Looks like @WindandGales
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@Marusya Do you happen to know which admin?
They posted it under flyers and stickers
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Skullmaggot 7/7/2022 12:29 AM
@Marusya I could double-check, but I don’t think @WindandGales is an admin here. But, good find. I was wondering what repository people were talking about.
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I’ll try to link/coordinate.
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@Marusya I could double-check, but I don’t think @WindandGales is an admin here. But, good find. I was wondering what repository people were talking about.
Makes sense. I wasn’t sure. I don’t know if anything has been uploaded there yet.
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Skullmaggot 7/7/2022 12:30 AM
@Marusya What channel was it again? On my phone and just lost it.
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NordicThor_ 7/7/2022 9:05 AM
Random shower thought…
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Replace the star with the 3A…we used these insignia to fight fascists in WWII, so why not reuse them?
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Replace the star with the 3A…we used these insignia to fight fascists in WWII, so why not reuse them?
Braakinthesaddle 7/7/2022 12:26 PM
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@Marusya When were you thinking of having the call with the graphic designers/psyops crews? I would like to sit in and hear some of the ideas fleshed out that were brought up in previous convos
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@NordicThor_ @Deleted User What’re symbols representative of oligarchies?
It’s probably too detailed for smaller things but a simplified version of this (suit with money sign) or even just a fist clutching cash (like the opposite of the “power” fist)
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also the fleur de lis has been reused for many things but was also used to brand runaway slaves, so I guess in a way could be a symbol of wealthy land/slave owners
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@Marusya When were you thinking of having the call with the graphic designers/psyops crews? I would like to sit in and hear some of the ideas fleshed out that were brought up in previous convos
When are you free this week? I was thinking a meeting tonight or tomorrow evening?
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Skullmaggot 7/7/2022 1:38 PM
@Braakinthesaddle @Marusya Be sure to let graphic designers/psyops people know (preferably far) in advance so that they can work it into their schedules.
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Dr_Diskette 7/7/2022 1:56 PM
Ooo I really like that idea
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When are you free this week? I was thinking a meeting tonight or tomorrow evening?
Braakinthesaddle 7/7/2022 1:57 PM
I can't meet in the evenings during the week. I work 5p-10p AZ time M-F, and I am lifting before that. If you want to meet during the evening, it'll have to be a weekend. Or I can meet earlier during the day on weekdays.
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I can't meet in the evenings during the week. I work 5p-10p AZ time M-F, and I am lifting before that. If you want to meet during the evening, it'll have to be a weekend. Or I can meet earlier during the day on weekdays.
Okay. Maybe Saturday night?
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Braakinthesaddle 7/7/2022 1:59 PM
I can do Saturday evening. I also want to make sure we have enough of the rest of the crew that can make that as well.
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NordicThor_ 7/7/2022 2:29 PM
I’d be okay with Saturday night.
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Skullmaggot 7/8/2022 1:00 PM
@here All those wishing to attend the upcoming design strategy meeting, please be aware that it may be as soon as Saturday night. Contact @Marusya . (edited)
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I will attend.
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I can do Saturday evening. I also want to make sure we have enough of the rest of the crew that can make that as well.
@here Does 5p PST/6p MST/8pm EST tomorrow work for the folks that would like to attend the design strat meeting? (edited)
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Braakinthesaddle 7/8/2022 2:01 PM
Works for me
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Replace the star with the 3A…we used these insignia to fight fascists in WWII, so why not reuse them?
WojtektheBear 7/8/2022 2:03 PM
Bro please do that we will throw that shit on red bubble so quick
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Bro please do that we will throw that shit on red bubble so quick
NordicThor_ 7/8/2022 2:05 PM
On it 👍
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NordicThor_ 7/8/2022 3:08 PM
here's the first attempt
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here's the first attempt
WojtektheBear 7/8/2022 3:10 PM
Oh absolutely fuck yeah
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@here Does 5p PST/6p MST/8pm EST tomorrow work for the folks that would like to attend the design strat meeting? (edited)
WojtektheBear 7/8/2022 3:12 PM
Unfortunately I’ll be out but I’m excited to hear about it after
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here's the first attempt
WojtektheBear 7/8/2022 3:14 PM
I’d be curious to see why it looks like with wings when you get a chance
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here's the first attempt
Doctor Eval 7/8/2022 3:24 PM
yoooo that's awesome
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NordicThor_ 7/8/2022 3:46 PM
Here's this one too, something to add as a subtle logo
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I'll look for files of the winged versions. Haven't been able to find one yet that would work. Thanks for the input!
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Here's this one too, something to add as a subtle logo
Braakinthesaddle 7/8/2022 3:47 PM
Combat patch energy
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An issue I want to bring up before the design meeting: To the average person, the AIF logo is unrecognizable. It's actually a bit scary looking, and when paired with the flag ring it will probably be mistaken for a fascist symbol that groups like the PB or Patriot Front would use. It's a huge fucking problem for us every time someone sees our logo and makes that mistake -- and I suspect it will happen a lot. I think we should consider some powerful words to accompany the logo that make it impossible for anyone to make that mistake. Something simple and short that would effectively become our GoT house words, our version of "Winter is Coming" Best I've got so far: Democracy over Fascism I think Democracy and Fascism are probably the two strongest keywords we can use to anchor our ideology, and 'over' not only declares which we endorse and which we repudiate, 'over' also implies that we will use democracy to trample fascism under our feet. It would work well in conjunction with our name in a ring around our logo. With just 6 words it would be impossible for anyone to misunderstand who we are and what we're about. - American Iron Front - Democracy Over Fascism - (edited)
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Conveniently, both slugs are almost the exact same length, so they should be able to work as a ring with 3 words on the top and 3 on the bottom
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Excuse my sloppy MS paint, and being the newbie weighing in, but my first reaction to the choice of words was to worry about this particular look at a glance reinforcing the problem with misidentification
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Hold up, I'll clarify with a pic...
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Out of many one
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The dots on the side separate the slugs and add clarity
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maybe the words "democracy over fascism" on top of the arrows
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just so it looks a little less busy
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We should put the words in the circle
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Make the circle solid
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@Marusya Did you finish that SVG of this logo that you were working on? It would be nice to get it so we could work on some variations tonight. If we get some good candidates we could vote on a standard one at the meeting tomorrow? (edited)
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If we put the words inside we will need to shrink the arrows to make space, which would make them less prominent and throw off the balance they bring to the rest of the elements. I don't know what is is about the scale and weight of the arrows in this logo but it just feels right to me, I'm hesitant to throw off that balance but I'll see what I can do if I can get the svg.
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Also, does anyone else prefer Iron Front USA over American Iron Front? Iron Front USA American Iron Front
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Iron front USA is better in my opinion. AIF has similar letters to antifa and tbh I don’t think most people are smart enough to distinguish.
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@Marusya Did you finish that SVG of this logo that you were working on? It would be nice to get it so we could work on some variations tonight. If we get some good candidates we could vote on a standard one at the meeting tomorrow? (edited)
I did. I will upload it to a folder in a few minutes.
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Dr_Diskette 7/8/2022 8:29 PM
Ok
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so (edited)
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An issue I want to bring up before the design meeting: To the average person, the AIF logo is unrecognizable. It's actually a bit scary looking, and when paired with the flag ring it will probably be mistaken for a fascist symbol that groups like the PB or Patriot Front would use. It's a huge fucking problem for us every time someone sees our logo and makes that mistake -- and I suspect it will happen a lot. I think we should consider some powerful words to accompany the logo that make it impossible for anyone to make that mistake. Something simple and short that would effectively become our GoT house words, our version of "Winter is Coming" Best I've got so far: Democracy over Fascism I think Democracy and Fascism are probably the two strongest keywords we can use to anchor our ideology, and 'over' not only declares which we endorse and which we repudiate, 'over' also implies that we will use democracy to trample fascism under our feet. It would work well in conjunction with our name in a ring around our logo. With just 6 words it would be impossible for anyone to misunderstand who we are and what we're about. - American Iron Front - Democracy Over Fascism - (edited)
WojtektheBear 7/8/2022 8:29 PM
This has been an ongoing problem for us and while I don’t see anything wrong with alternative designs that are more clear, for people who know what the three arrows are it’s very evocative
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Dr_Diskette 7/8/2022 8:29 PM
Here me out
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Iron front USA is better in my opinion. AIF has similar letters to antifa and tbh I don’t think most people are smart enough to distinguish.
WojtektheBear 7/8/2022 8:30 PM
Por que no los dos
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I feel like what we’re here for is to clarify that, I’m not overly precious about it but I do prefer AIF and a lot of people who have been rocking gear to events and that type of work refer to it like that
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The pure red and black evokes the red and black flag of antifa, which is a brand we want to do everything we can to differentiate ourselves from. The Red White and Blue speaks a lot more to our mission to recapture American patriotism from the far-right.
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WojtektheBear 7/8/2022 8:33 PM
Again not singularly up to me just my two cents since I’ve been in the shit for a hot minute
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Dr_Diskette 7/8/2022 8:33 PM
I prefer American Iron front more aswell
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We could use both. To each their own, I suppose. Living in my state, I know that if I walked around in a black and red shirt that said AIF, I know I’d get some looks.
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Dr_Diskette 7/8/2022 8:34 PM
let them think we are anti-fa, there gonna call us that anyways for being against them
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The pure red and black evokes the red and black flag of antifa, which is a brand we want to do everything we can to differentiate ourselves from. The Red White and Blue speaks a lot more to our mission to recapture American patriotism from the far-right.
WojtektheBear 7/8/2022 8:34 PM
Yeah I actually agree here while I don’t think anyone here is afraid of Antifa or anything we want to tread carefully about optics
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We could use both. To each their own, I suppose. Living in my state, I know that if I walked around in a black and red shirt that said AIF, I know I’d get some looks.
WojtektheBear 7/8/2022 8:34 PM
RWB would probably be better yeah
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Dr_Diskette 7/8/2022 8:34 PM
I personally Like the RWB one more aswell, just though threw it out a bit
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I don't want us to be associated with antifa. Their brand is radioactive, we need to differentiate ourselves, and we can do that by leaning into the patriotisim.
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Embracing patriotism opens our door to a lot regular people who don't really have a lot of knowledge about what's happening in the world. Its foolish to think we don't need these people, we don't have the numbers to win without them.
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Democracy Always Wins is kind of fucking badass.
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Dr_Diskette 7/8/2022 8:43 PM
I always found it interesting that Antifa has been associated with the tri-arrows, considering GIF where staunch ant-communist
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I took the colors from @NordicThor_ design
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I will always preach the third arrow as being our repudiation of communism. That, our patriotism, and our history of fighting the grandfathers of Antifa, Antifaschistische Aktion, are the 3 most powerful tools we have for cracking through the cynicism of people stuck in the Fox bubble and convincing them we aren't just three commies stacked in a trenchcoat. I believe these three features are essential to our survival and success, and I jumped to join the AIF because I saw so much hope in them. They are best avenue we have to get people on the other side to stop for a moment and listen to us, and that gives us a shot at winning them over to our side. (edited)
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Skullmaggot 7/9/2022 12:43 AM
@The Dozer Hi, I was thinking maybe instead to have brighter colors (such as a white background and green arrows, for example, which would be unmistakably non-fascist but not necessarily anti-fascist design). I don't know who'd be on board for such a change, especially established AIF chapters, but I personally think a good positive-feeling color scheme would be a good consideration. (edited)
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Actually yes Skull, one thing I REALLY liked about this Captain America flag was how vibrant and friendly the colors were. It's the sort of thing someone could carry around with a smile on their face without feeling like they're inviting conflict or painting a target on their back. That's a huge factor for appealing to moderates and it's something we should absolutely consider.
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Skullmaggot 7/9/2022 2:34 AM
@The Dozer Yeah! It’s a good vibrant blue! There’s no black too, so that could be a good start!
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@The Dozer I’m guessing you have other examples to present at the design strategy meeting?
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Compare the colors of the subreddits logo and the preview of the SVG that Marusya is working on. The second one feels a little more serious, but the subreddits feels a little more joyous. I like them both, but I think there is more outreach power in joy as it tempers the scary factor and makes it more friendly and approachable
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Although, the rest Marusyas design is an improvement over the subreddit logo, as the outer blue ring is now correctly balanced with the inner white ring. (edited)
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A thought: When I first learned about the black panthers as a kid, one of the first pictures I saw was of them running a soup kitchen. After that when I saw the pictures of them with rifles I knew I didn't need to be afraid of them because they were the good guys. That stuck with me all my life. It's not a 1-to-1 analogy, but there is so much more power in projecting joy and kindness. (edited)
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Our logo will do so much outreach work on its own if it radiates positivity and patriotism.
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I'm strongly in favor of bright vibrant blues and reds
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Skullmaggot 7/9/2022 2:57 AM
@The Dozer I mean, wouldn't it more resemble the reference by making the black into blue?
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Id say it's worth taking a look at.
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Skullmaggot 7/9/2022 2:59 AM
yup yup
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Again, I'm really keen on the colors in this flag
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Skullmaggot 7/9/2022 3:02 AM
Yeah, I like the brighter blue
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Interesting. I just noticed that the picture of the flag at the parade has a blue circle and I think it looks better than the version above with the black circle. Far more friendly (edited)
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Skullmaggot 7/9/2022 3:19 AM
@The Dozer Yeah, no black on that one. Makes it more positive-feeling. Also, I need to get to sleep to get up early tomorrow. I think it's likely that I'll miss the design strategy meeting, but I like your ideas.
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https://americanironfront.bigcartel.com/product/iron-front-flag I think this is the flag in that picture fwiw (edited)
The American Iron Front flag, featuring the emblem of the group. 3x5 feet
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Yes! Changing the inner circle from black to blue really ramps up the patriotism and positivity factors and almost completely eliminates the scary militia factor. (edited)
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Doctor Eval 7/9/2022 9:11 AM
Idea: productize these designs. Sell merch with the designs. Use money to fund projects
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Again, I'm really keen on the colors in this flag
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I fucking love this
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Bold dark shades of colors come off powerful to me
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https://americanironfront.bigcartel.com/product/iron-front-flag I think this is the flag in that picture fwiw (edited)
I bought one of these flags recently
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Bold dark shades of colors come off powerful to me
We need to project power, but the question is whether to project frightening power or positive power. If we choose colors which project frightening power we're going to be mistaken at first glance for the people we seek to fight. This will be catastrophic for outreach, because most of the time you only get one glance. I really like the new colors you're playing with @Dr_Diskette (edited)
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@Dr_Diskette Can you take your 6:52 post, but make the black ring white? (edited)
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Most people on the sub like this one more^
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Dr_Diskette 7/9/2022 12:25 PM
Dig it
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The brighter colors pop more
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Dr_Diskette 7/9/2022 12:31 PM
@NordicThor_ someone on the reddit asked if someones made a verson of the flag with that design and I just posted it crediting U is that ok?
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Can we see the square one with the pop?
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NordicThor_ 7/9/2022 12:32 PM
I mean, I didn’t make it but sure lol
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Dr_Diskette 7/9/2022 12:32 PM
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oh wait I though u did?
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NordicThor_ 7/9/2022 12:33 PM
I made the roundel thing based on the Air Force insignia.
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Oh yeah, baby!
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Dr_Diskette 7/9/2022 12:33 PM
Oh I knew that lol Thats what they where asking about
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Th bright square one is my favorite! But can you shift the arrows a bit right in the box? They're slightly off balance (edited)
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Dr_Diskette 7/9/2022 12:33 PM
Have you made a variation based on the star and bar logo on military aircraft?
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thats what they asked
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Im gonna edit that with brighter colors is that ok? I personally Like the darker ones
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I like that airforce one too, can we see it with bright colors?
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Dr_Diskette 7/9/2022 12:35 PM
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NordicThor_ 7/9/2022 12:35 PM
For sure. I think it would be cool brighter as well. I just wanted to keep it as close to the original as a draft really
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Braakinthesaddle 7/9/2022 12:35 PM
This concept is my favorite thus far. Absolute 🔥
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We're diggin' gold now lads!
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This concept is my favorite thus far. Absolute 🔥
NordicThor_ 7/9/2022 12:35 PM
Thanks! Sometimes the shower really is the best place for ideas hahaha
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Braakinthesaddle 7/9/2022 12:36 PM
Lol true
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The brighter colors do make it pop more
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Dr_Diskette 7/9/2022 12:36 PM
I am only worried about it as a flag cause well, its not flag shaped
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but DAMN would that be an amazing patch
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NordicThor_ 7/9/2022 12:36 PM
Yeah…but we could but it on a background…maybe the dark navy
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Dr_Diskette 7/9/2022 12:37 PM
lemmy try it
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Ill take the blue u used
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NordicThor_ 7/9/2022 12:37 PM
May look terrible hahaha
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Dr_Diskette 7/9/2022 12:37 PM
yeahhh
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NordicThor_ 7/9/2022 12:38 PM
Then I’d say red or white as a background. If those don’t work then it’ll just be a sticker/patch! 😜
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I’d dick around with it but I’m away from my computer
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Dr_Diskette 7/9/2022 12:39 PM
I'm a bit bias because its my design but damn do I love this for some reason
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What if you took you're 9:39 fav flag, and then rotated the angle of all of the stripes to match the angle of the arrows so the stripes are all like this?
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Dr_Diskette 7/9/2022 12:43 PM
hmm Ill try it rn
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Not much of a fan tbh
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Barber Shop of Horrors
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lol
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Dr_Diskette 7/9/2022 12:49 PM
did see something while editing that that sparked my interest
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one sec
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If you're trying again, maybe make the red ring white?
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Dr_Diskette 7/9/2022 12:51 PM
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Also, I'm gonna try some rounded text like this idea I pitched, does anyone have ideas for fonts we could examine to uses as our standard? Like Microsoft uses Segoe as their font, Apple Helvetica. Or we could just cancel the whole meeting and just go with this because it's basically ready for print.
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Dr_Diskette 7/9/2022 12:52 PM
I personally am not a fan of text on a flag
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Yo, thats way better. Take off the two outside red and white
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The text is for stickers
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Also, I'm gonna try some rounded text like this idea I pitched, does anyone have ideas for fonts we could examine to uses as our standard? Like Microsoft uses Segoe as their font, Apple Helvetica. Or we could just cancel the whole meeting and just go with this because it's basically ready for print.
Braakinthesaddle 7/9/2022 12:52 PM
Can the words curve around the circle?
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Dr_Diskette 7/9/2022 12:52 PM
^
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hold on Ive made patches before
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just gotta find the file
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like this?
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Yo, thats way better. Take off the two outside red and white
Dr_Diskette 7/9/2022 12:58 PM
what do you mean?
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WHOAH! That is getting really fucking close to being a perfect flag (edited)
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Dr_Diskette 7/9/2022 1:04 PM
I dig it too
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@Marusya just sent me the svg and I made the center blue. I think this is almost perfect as our emblem and pairs perfectly with where that flag is going. Just gotta move that one star...
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The stars are lining up for us now!
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That's an emblem of power right there! Could we try putting it inside your latest flag Dr Disk?
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Dr_Diskette 7/9/2022 1:31 PM
Yeah sure I’ll try it later unless you want to do it
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Been up since 5 so my brain is mush
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I barely know how to use inkscape, all my vector skills are in Flash, but if you post the svg I'll try.
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@Dr_Diskette Drop the SVG in the window and I'll take a crack at it 🙂
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I don't know how to format it to flag dimensions and all that but I can manipulate elements. Also I want to match the emblem to your colors.
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NordicThor_ 7/9/2022 2:00 PM
I seem to have woken up with the spicy brain today so I’m gonna be MIA for a little bit. Keep up the good work!
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The colors now shine as bright as democracy itself
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Also, you know how there is a color called, Royal Blue? Hex : #0504aa I say that whatever value of blue we ultimately go with, lets declare it Democracy Blue Because fuck the Royalists!
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The colors now shine as bright as democracy itself
RaiseRuntimeError 7/9/2022 3:53 PM
I liked this enough to order 100 stickers
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Dude, should have spoke up and I'd have gotten you a higher res
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@here reminder of the design strategy meeting tonight at 5p pst/6p mst/8p est (edited)
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I'm also trying to figure out how to do a circle of text, AMERICAN IRON FRON DEMOCRACY OVER FASCISM
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But I'm still learning the software
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Dude, should have spoke up and I'd have gotten you a higher res
RaiseRuntimeError 7/9/2022 5:06 PM
oh thats fine, i just got a bunch of 2"x2"s to cover up other stickers
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Skullmaggot 7/9/2022 5:06 PM
@RaiseRuntimeError Hey, you made it in?
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@RaiseRuntimeError @Doctor Eval has posted on the #job-board , and you can also find him in the #researchers channel. I’ll let him know you’re coming?
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RaiseRuntimeError 7/9/2022 5:08 PM
ok cool
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Skullmaggot 7/9/2022 5:09 PM
@The Dozer If you’re using Illustrator, I believe you can click on the edge of a circle shape with the type tool to do circular text (but I haven’t done it in a while, I don’t exactly recall). There’s always tutorials online though.
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@The Dozer If you’re using Illustrator, I believe you can click on the edge of a circle shape with the type tool to do circular text (but I haven’t done it in a while, I don’t exactly recall). There’s always tutorials online though.
I think they’re using Inkscape but there is an easy way to do it there too.
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Yeah, I'm stuck with inkscape. I've got it working roughly, but it's gonna take a while to get it looking proper right. Also, I think tonight we should make a call between either the fat arrowheads used in Dr D's flag, or the more svelte arrowheads used in the emblem... Then we should use the same arrows in the same blue circle in both the flag and the emblem for consistency. Personally, I think the svelte arrows look more athletic and action oriented, but I'd have to see them on Dr D's flag to really know. (edited)
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Something I made for fun a couple years ago.
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The premise being that Scar was a revolutionary liberator who led a ghettoized people to rise up from bondage and reintegrate with their former oppressors as equals.
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After he was killed by the son of the king he deposed, the The Lion King was crafted as a twisted version of history to demonize him and his ideals.
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Here is a comparison: Fat Arrows vs Svelte Arrows
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Dr_Diskette 7/9/2022 7:31 PM
I kinda like the flat arrows more
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looks more like the OG logo
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I do like the classic fat ones for sure.... but I think there is too much blue space around them on your flag as compared to the classic logo you posted. You can't really make the arrows bigger though because their width is perfectly balanced with the width of the stripes behind them and this looks fucking awesome. If you want to reduce the blue space in the circle you could try deleting the 2 outer white stripes, then flip the colors of every remaining stripe so that the two outside stripes become white again. Then you could shrink the blue and white circles and until you find a find a new balance which is closer to the original.
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Rudolph Yankenson 7/10/2022 1:27 AM
Could I ask a favor on behalf of Ohio. I’m not really artistically inclined and I think a state specific AIF flag would be really cool. I’m envisioning the banner but the big O contains the three arrows.
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Ok, I just modified @Marusya's SVG for the "Patriot Emblem" so you can toggle between Wide Arrows / Narrow Arrows Text / No Text
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Everything is labeled in the SVG and the text is set on 2 separate wheels so its very easy to rotate and modify
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Click the download icon in the bottom right beside < > to get the SVG
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This is just placeholder text. We can use the SVG as a starting point to test out various fonts (edited)
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Could I ask a favor on behalf of Ohio. I’m not really artistically inclined and I think a state specific AIF flag would be really cool. I’m envisioning the banner but the big O contains the three arrows.
Here you go, 2 png's and an svg of the Tri Arrows on the Ohio flag
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Click the download icon in the bottom right beside < > to get the SVG
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Rudolph Yankenson 7/10/2022 3:09 AM
Thank you!
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Skullmaggot 7/10/2022 11:34 AM
@Marusya @here I was only able to stay for the first half of the design strategy meeting. I slept last night on a few ideas: -Lady Liberty/other people or women holding three arrows; people don’t know what three arrows means, so it’s a hook -(armed) diversity poster with minorities/women; who are the faces of the communities we’re protecting? -LGBTQIA+ (drag queen), elderly Asian woman, Black woman, pregnant women, Jewish, and White Christian male, etc. -fist with three arrows, but also connected to the faces of the people wielding the arrows (edited)
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Skullmaggot 7/10/2022 2:23 PM
Meme-y idea: pro-love/inclusivity symbol, heart with three arrows
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Meme-y idea: pro-love/inclusivity symbol, heart with three arrows
WojtektheBear 7/10/2022 2:36 PM
Rainbow heart with the arrows
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That font is
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Bold, legible at a distance, with slight rounding that makes it firm but friendly https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Dosis#standard-styles
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Dr_Diskette 7/10/2022 10:26 PM
I dig it
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Bold, legible at a distance, with slight rounding that makes it firm but friendly
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This beautiful lady's name is
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She's makin' her way in this world and don't need no serifs to get what she wants https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Lato
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Doctor Eval 7/10/2022 11:53 PM
I just saw an iron front poster on the subreddit. I absolutely love the stripes with the diamond shape in the middle and the three arrows.
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This poster totally nailed it in my opinion.
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I like that one too
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This might be fuckin' it lads
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I wonder if I can buy a iron front flag from Amazon
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Not yet, but once we establish a standard our flags will soar! (edited)
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Doctor Eval 7/10/2022 11:56 PM
@Marusya
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If that's the direction we should go for the flag, (and it really could be), here is my rough try at an emblem that would to be its mate. (edited)
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Any ideas where to go?
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I saw someone on the Reddit mention trying to squeeze in all 50 stars
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Don’t think it’s necessary
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Yeah, I don't think 50 stars is viable for an emblem.
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Skullmaggot 7/11/2022 1:46 AM
I do like the full star bar though.
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But, text is a little weird, isn’t it? For a diamond shape?
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Maybe it can just be textless though.
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Yeah I like this particular version textless
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Skullmaggot 7/11/2022 1:48 AM
It’s not always the worst. It’ll just be diagonal. Like “IRON. FRONT. USA. 4TH THING.”
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It’s beautiful
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WojtektheBear 7/11/2022 8:48 AM
People were saying the design looked like the Hitler youth flag and it’s similar in that there’s a diamond on the flag and nothing else
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If that's the direction we should go for the flag, (and it really could be), here is my rough try at an emblem that would to be its mate. (edited)
WojtektheBear 7/11/2022 8:48 AM
Why only have one design?
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Doctor Eval 7/11/2022 9:57 AM
Would the fucking fascists please leave some symbols for the rest of us?
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Fuck
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This is the Hilter Youth logo, right? Its a squishy diamond, and we're working with a square on a 45. I think that's distinct enough.
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Although I do agree with Skull, its gonna be way harder to put out name and some words of power with our square diamond
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Rough Idea
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Although I do agree with Skull, its gonna be way harder to put out name and some words of power with our square diamond
WojtektheBear 7/11/2022 1:47 PM
I’ll just say this again: we can have multiple logos and flag designs and people can use what speaks to them, if we have to compromise to have inventory in the redbubble, we can still have at least a couple designs
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I've been more focused on printable logos for stickers and flyers, but I know @Marusya is big on street style iconography that can be quickly reproduced. You could replicate this logo very quickly with 3 cardboard arrows with sticky tape on the back, a square frame stencil, and a rattle can.
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Alternatively, we could do a negative space stencil, so the arrows are what gets hit, and then do a diamond frame around it.
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I've been more focused on printable logos for stickers and flyers, but I know @Marusya is big on street style iconography that can be quickly reproduced. You could replicate this logo very quickly with 3 cardboard arrows with sticky tape on the back, a square frame stencil, and a rattle can.
NordicThor_ 7/11/2022 2:07 PM
Another idea would be to take a pizza box and cut the arrows out
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Yeah, that would get us the arrows, which would be perfect for tagging over fascist sigils we see -- exactly as the logo was intended to do
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rather than seeking to fully paint over swastikas and erase them, we leave enough of their features showing for people to know what was there, and instead trample it with the arrows. (edited)
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Kind the Ukrainians leaving the copses of invaders out on the road to make a point to the next ones who come along.
Yes, you were here. We have taken our space back
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watchu need?
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You trying to start an AIF chapter? We're in discussions about standardizing some of those materials but I can get you some emergency stuff if you need to get rolling now
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Skullmaggot 7/11/2022 4:04 PM
You may want to speak to @Braakinthesaddle and @WojtektheBear , who are AIF.
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You may want to speak to @Braakinthesaddle and @WojtektheBear , who are AIF.
WojtektheBear 7/11/2022 4:05 PM
He’s doesn’t need to speak to us, if the people in this channel wish to help they don’t need our permission. It would be good if @Deleted User explained more about who the “Freedom Legion” are and what it is that they do
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Yeah you’re good
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The Freedom Legion’s manifesto doesn’t exactly align with the work that I’m interested in doing at this time, but there are others who might be willing to help.
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WojtektheBear 7/11/2022 4:10 PM
Explain your anticommunist position clearly and remember you’re in a server filled with socialists (edited)
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Honestly seems weirdly Proud Boy ish down to the colors
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Honestly seems weirdly Proud Boy ish down to the colors
They are also explicitly anti pedo, which is largely a Q position that I’ve seen.
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WojtektheBear 7/11/2022 4:12 PM
Yeah I was gonna say that too
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Not that we’re pro just that’s extremely vague and also what RW have said about LGBTQ folks
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WojtektheBear 7/11/2022 4:14 PM
What does that mean practically
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WojtektheBear 7/11/2022 4:15 PM
I mean lol, what does that mean
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“Tolerate it to a degree”
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Deeply sus language
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They wouldn’t want to work us if that’s the case.
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WojtektheBear 7/11/2022 4:18 PM
We do too, we just prioritize Antifascism and don’t work with tankies but rhetorically it’s a waste of breath and a poor prioritization to equate fascists who have attempted to overthrow the government to lefties who sometimes smash up a Starbucks
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WojtektheBear 7/11/2022 4:22 PM
If you have tips about fascist activities in your area we’d be glad to have it but as far as doing free labor and working tightly we can’t promise you anything nor will we stop anyone who does want to do so.
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NordicThor_ 7/11/2022 4:48 PM
Is this an organization you created? I’m not finding any info online
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This manifesto reads like you tried to take buzzwords from all sides and pack them in a single paragraph. I'm not sure if I'm being memed on or not lol
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For sure, just seems a bit unfocused
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We're all getting our shit together, but there are aspects of your design that are going to be trouble for you. The black and yellow is owned by the PB at this point. You're going to be mistaken for them frequently and that is going to hurt your mission. Also the site gives off an intimidating conspiratorial vibe. I feel like we're largely aligned based on what I've read... but there are features of your site that scare me and I'm not sure if they are simply design issues or if they indicate some sort of a deeper ideological rift.
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Like, I think I'm a pretty badass dude, but I feel a bit shaken after taking a look around that site, even though you're basically saying shit I agree with.
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Like, the Iron Front was a political party with a history of fighting fascists to try to save democracy. That history is something I can anchor myself to when thinking about the AIF. That history is 'the receipts' that prove we are who we say we are. I look at you guys and you're saying a lot of stuff that resonates with me... but there is no established history to anchor you to. I don't really know who you are. Sure, your site says you're against pedophilia, but what does that really mean? There is a whole movement of people who've weaponized baseless accusations of pedophilia into a broad conspiracy designed to target an entire political party. Not only does that have terrifying implications for democracy, it also takes attention and resources away from fighting actual pedophilia. I don't know what it means, all I have is a hostile looking website that makes me feel like I'm being attacked by hornets. (edited)
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Honestly, I think you've seen a lot of the same shit going on that we have and are just trying to find your own way to fight it.
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But the way you're approaching it is going to hinder you.
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Most of us here are kitted out for a scrap too, but we're leaning into unity and positive civic engagement as hard as we can because we know just how bad things are going to get if we don't.
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Oh. I think he left.
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MisterStompy 7/11/2022 8:54 PM
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Just threw this together, idk I think it's pretty cool
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Shit, that's kind of an elegant way to imply patriotism with just the 3 arrows
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FOR FRANCE!
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But I actually kind of dig the concept. Might be a cool idea for the pizza box cutout artists to hit an arrow with each color.
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Oh. I think he left.
A shame that website sounded like a shitshow, sorry i missed it 🤣
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A shame that website sounded like a shitshow, sorry i missed it 🤣
WojtektheBear 7/11/2022 9:36 PM
We kicked him
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We were going to make an admin post about it in general but it might be more appropriate here
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I didn't quite know what to make of his thing, and that's kind of what makes it unsettling. It was like an uncanny valley version of the Iron Front, a different path that like minded people might forge in isolation. I could see us going down that path as well with the wrong leadership and culture. That's one of the reasons I've become so engaged so quickly. I wanted to help steer our culture away from becoming that kind of thing.
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Love to hear it. Yeah i mean, im a commie so. Pretty offended tbh 😅
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Very odd set of pinciples that def wasnt very well thought out (edited)
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WojtektheBear 7/11/2022 9:41 PM
Properly addressed in #wall-of-shame
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Properly addressed in #wall-of-shame
Yeah hard agree with that assessment.
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Love to hear it. Yeah i mean, im a commie so. Pretty offended tbh 😅
WojtektheBear 7/11/2022 9:49 PM
We will defend you as we will defend our normies right to be cringe (kidding, lol)
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@MisterStompy Design tip! When you have text that is the same color as the background, you need more space between it and the edge of the shape it is inside of. If you make all the arrows thicker, the text won't have the illusion of visual bleed into the space around them.
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TL:DR - Make arrows fatter.
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Posting a couple pics of a pamphlet draft.
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Some language taken from @The Dozer and reworked
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Suggestions: Add something about supporting immigrants to the support/protect Add something about housing being a human right to the "we believe" section. Center the logo and text on the front "flap". These are just suggestions, I'll take no offence if they are not taken. (edited)
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The whole thing is great overall. I love that it looks good in grayscale.
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Suggestions: Add something about supporting immigrants to the support/protect Add something about housing being a human right to the "we believe" section. Center the logo and text on the front "flap". These are just suggestions, I'll take no offence if they are not taken. (edited)
WojtektheBear 7/12/2022 7:47 PM
Look as much as I agree with the housing thing I really don’t think it’s relevant
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I love puppies and rainbows too but that just feels like a whole other agenda
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No worries. Like I said, just suggestions.
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No worries. Like I said, just suggestions.
WojtektheBear 7/12/2022 7:50 PM
Sorry if that came off harsh, I’m trying to focus on groups they’re targetting like immigrants
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We're good..... But for future reference, I am also pro puppy.
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We're good..... But for future reference, I am also pro puppy.
WojtektheBear 7/12/2022 8:03 PM
Me too
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We can make an introductory zine that goes into further detail about specific beliefs and ideas.
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We can make an introductory zine that goes into further detail about specific beliefs and ideas.
WojtektheBear 7/12/2022 8:13 PM
Look I think most people here can get onboard with a social Democratic program, I also think there’s a point at which economics is too abstract and irrelevant to the fash
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RaiseRuntimeError 7/12/2022 8:36 PM
Honestly I think letting groups like the DSA focus on pushing socialist agendas would be better. Fascist/reactionaries are not actively taking peoples homes away but they are taking LGBT+ rights away and promoting violence against minorities while limiting voting rights. That should be easy to convince people of while not really getting distracted on discussing the viability of an economic system. FYI i love puppies too
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Yup. I agree. Nothing wrong with KISS. (keep it simple, stupid) I really do mean it when I say my suggestions are just that.
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RaiseRuntimeError 7/12/2022 8:40 PM
Oh yeah i understand. Also, picking the wrong language could alienate allies that we could work with. If a real conservative wanted to work with us i dont think they should feel like they dont belong if they want to help save democracy
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I say "real conservative" because i dont consider many in the Republican party are actually conservative but much further down the line
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RaiseRuntimeError 7/12/2022 8:45 PM
I came up with an idea. You know how the original three arrows were used to deface propaganda? Well we should make a design that could be printed on clear stickers that could be used in the same way to slap over other stickers. Like if the center blue background was transparent instead.
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That's fucking brilliant.
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RaiseRuntimeError 7/12/2022 8:47 PM
Yeah i think it would look really cool too
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I came up with an idea. You know how the original three arrows were used to deface propaganda? Well we should make a design that could be printed on clear stickers that could be used in the same way to slap over other stickers. Like if the center blue background was transparent instead.
You can print a png with a transparent background on transparent sticker paper.
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You can also carry around black paint pens - like for tagging - and write on stickers like that.
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I have a infographic somewhere on his to make paint markers from cheap materials, like PVC and sponges.
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I have a infographic somewhere on his to make paint markers from cheap materials, like PVC and sponges.
That's cool. Def share when you find it.
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If you have a paint pen though, don't bother writing on a transparent sticker. Just draw right over the fash shit.
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RaiseRuntimeError 7/12/2022 8:53 PM
yeah its not the most effective idea, its just the cool factor
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My printer fucked up but here are some transparent stickers.
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I came up with an idea. You know how the original three arrows were used to deface propaganda? Well we should make a design that could be printed on clear stickers that could be used in the same way to slap over other stickers. Like if the center blue background was transparent instead.
If you have a printer, buy transparent sticker paper and print them off.
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Found the thing!
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That kind of marker device can be scaled down as well to make something that is bigger than a normal sharpie. (edited)
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My printer fucked up but here are some transparent stickers.
Deleted User 7/13/2022 11:22 AM
Those look raw af
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A better one would be a fire extinguisher, imo, unless this is for mass covering of something in a secure area
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@Snaggy I believe the intent isn't just covering but creating giant graffiti and street art. Not that it wouldn't cover effectively. A clever person could even make three linked together so that drawing all three arrows at once could be possible.
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If you have a printer, buy transparent sticker paper and print them off.
And transparent sticker paper works w an ordinary printer?
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And transparent sticker paper works w an ordinary printer?
Yep. Make sure to look at the label on the sticker paper, but I bought the transparent paper at a local craft store. The ones I printed out were with an inkjet printer. Works like a charm.
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Note: make sure your printer doesn't use water soluble ink, or the second it's humid the ink will run off the clear sticker.
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Skullmaggot 7/16/2022 7:52 PM
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ᶻᵃⁿᵉ 7/18/2022 1:37 AM
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The squad do be dancin tho
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ᶻᵃⁿᵉ 7/18/2022 4:04 AM
New mascot
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SOMEONE FIND A WAY TO PUT A GIF ON A FLAG.
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John Paul Jones 7/19/2022 7:04 AM
Not the best at graphic design but I'm thinking about using something along the lines of the "Double V" campaign that popped up after WW2.
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Not the best at graphic design but I'm thinking about using something along the lines of the "Double V" campaign that popped up after WW2.
WojtektheBear 7/19/2022 12:20 PM
Love the idea
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FREETHEPOTATOES 7/19/2022 3:37 PM
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Modified version of a flag I saw on the subreddit a while ago wdyt
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A third V would be three arrows. Just saying. ;)
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@FREETHEPOTATOES I would suggest uploading that as some other format. Not everybody has Photoshop or a program that can read it.
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FREETHEPOTATOES 7/23/2022 7:39 PM
Thanks
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Yeah, I really want that, but shouldn't it be going left?
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We tread upon the treaders
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I guess that works. Arrows striking right. (edited)
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Deleted User 7/25/2022 11:26 AM
Maybe remove the border around the flag Otherwise badass
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FREETHEPOTATOES 7/25/2022 1:13 PM
i made the arrows move to the right cause i think it shows more forward progress
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i made the arrows move to the right cause i think it shows more forward progress
The problem is that it comes off as bottom right political
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FREETHEPOTATOES 7/25/2022 1:22 PM
Oh i see
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I had understood the origin of the arrows to be pointing towards the bottom left of germany so figured there wasn't an important distinction
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I had understood the origin of the arrows to be pointing towards the bottom left of germany so figured there wasn't an important distinction
The arrows to the bottom left mean that we're like social democrats or in the bottom left sphere, the 3 arrows represent different enemies we are against, fascism, authoritarian statists(like auth socs or pat socs), and capitalists
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It's important as the bottom right the iconography can be misconstrued and utilized by like Minarchists(libertarians) for their stuff (edited)
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The arrows to the bottom left mean that we're like social democrats or in the bottom left sphere, the 3 arrows represent different enemies we are against, fascism, authoritarian statists(like auth socs or pat socs), and capitalists
WojtektheBear 7/25/2022 1:28 PM
I mean I don’t think the Iron Front existed at the same time as the compass
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FREETHEPOTATOES 7/25/2022 1:28 PM
it didn't
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WojtektheBear 7/25/2022 1:28 PM
Like the left arrows are important because of tradition not that
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it didn't
WojtektheBear 7/25/2022 1:28 PM
Exactly
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Like the left arrows are important because of tradition not that
Yeah ik, but minarchists have been using the iconography, but the arrow bottom or up distinction didn't exist but the left and right one did
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FREETHEPOTATOES 7/25/2022 1:30 PM
i thought that the had pointed to the threats from Nuremburg and the bottom left of Germany, the origin of fascism
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Yeah ik, but minarchists have been using the iconography, but the arrow bottom or up distinction didn't exist but the left and right one did
WojtektheBear 7/25/2022 1:30 PM
Fair the arrows should be left for sure
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i thought that the had pointed to the threats from Nuremburg and the bottom left of Germany, the origin of fascism
Didn't it come from the right side of Germany??
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FREETHEPOTATOES 7/25/2022 1:31 PM
bottom left i thought but i could be wrong
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Yeah I'm not too certain either
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FREETHEPOTATOES 7/25/2022 1:32 PM
Munich, the location of two fascist Puschs, was bottom left from berlin but bottom right overall
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but regardless i do understand the need for making the arrows point the other direction
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i already made the patches but i will put them on the right shoulder of my tac gear so that they face forward
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i can make some left ones too
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i already made the patches but i will put them on the right shoulder of my tac gear so that they face forward
It's fine because it's just like a boggle, nothing too serious haha. One thing though is since it's in a way like a don't tread on me flag remix doesn't the snake face the other way too? (edited)
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FREETHEPOTATOES 7/25/2022 1:37 PM
yes technically. i am just going to say i took artistic liberty
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but yeah good point lol
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Its cool haha, I still love the design, it's an easy redesign too, just flip the snake and arrows
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FREETHEPOTATOES 7/25/2022 1:40 PM
yeah, thanks for the feedback
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I would love to see how the patches come out
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FREETHEPOTATOES 7/25/2022 1:44 PM
I can take a picture of my set up when they arrive
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I know it's not centered and shit (I'll fix it) but I hope you guys think the message is good, I want to paste it up around town
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It's vague enough that anyone can use it to support their beliefs.
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I'd be more clear.
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Resist Fascism. Protect our Democracy. Embrace Equality.
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I want to keep the critical thinking part, because I think lack thereof makes people fall into extreme viewpoints. I agree I should change it to resist fascism though
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Practice critical thinking?
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Don't want to accuse anyone. lol
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Good point
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I'm bad at saying what I want to say lol
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Nah.
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Everyone needs an editor sometimes.
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I know it's not centered and shit (I'll fix it) but I hope you guys think the message is good, I want to paste it up around town
WojtektheBear 7/25/2022 3:02 PM
I like the English to Spanish 🙂
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I live in a largely spanish speaking area so
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I figured it was a good idea, plus it works with the number of stripes
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I live in a largely spanish speaking area so
WojtektheBear 7/25/2022 3:07 PM
We have some of the posters in the sider translated somewhere I think @Braakinthesaddle posted them earlier too
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Braakinthesaddle 7/25/2022 3:09 PM
One sec, I'll find em. I have the images saved on my phone
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Those are super cool, thanks! Are these artworks free use for friends of AIF or CCed by the creators?
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Those are super cool, thanks! Are these artworks free use for friends of AIF or CCed by the creators?
Yes to both
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i have a denim jacket that i want to put something large and AIF on the back off, any suggestions on what to put? i could just look back into the chat and find some but i thought i would ask
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There's the 'ol faithful
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WojtektheBear 7/28/2022 10:45 AM
Yeah that’s sick as a patch I’m considering doing that
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thechromatograph3r 7/28/2022 1:27 PM
Has anyone designed a recruitment poster?
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Has anyone designed a recruitment poster?
We have flyers and posters, but what do you mean when you specifically say recruitment poster?
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We have flyers and posters, but what do you mean when you specifically say recruitment poster?
thechromatograph3r 7/28/2022 1:49 PM
For instance, we have some nice stuff on the Drive, but, say I wanted to post flyers or stickers on lamp posts or electrical poles. Would any of those really spell out who/what we are and how to engage with us?
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For instance, we have some nice stuff on the Drive, but, say I wanted to post flyers or stickers on lamp posts or electrical poles. Would any of those really spell out who/what we are and how to engage with us?
Okay I think I see what you mean. You're thinking of something with info about who/what we are rather than what we believe?
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Okay I think I see what you mean. You're thinking of something with info about who/what we are rather than what we believe?
thechromatograph3r 7/28/2022 1:56 PM
Yea. Something that has more of a "stand against fascism; join Iron Front" message than a "solidarity makes America great" or "alt-right not welcome here" message. See what I'm getting at?
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A call to action
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A call to action
thechromatograph3r 7/28/2022 1:58 PM
That
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A few of the flyers we have can be easily tweaked or reworked to make them more about "recruitment" than "hey look!"
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Skullmaggot 7/29/2022 11:03 PM
Hi, who's got graphic design experience here? We'd be looking for more graphic designers.
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shout out to u/CathodeRayNoob on reddit for making these
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shout out to u/CathodeRayNoob on reddit for making these
loving lady liberty
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we love to see it
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Skullmaggot 7/30/2022 3:49 PM
I saw those, and we need more graphic designers, so I’ll probably reach out to CathodeRayNoob.
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@Kraite Are you a graphic designer?
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@Kraite Are you a graphic designer?
Yes I am
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I mean I'm not a professional but I've got a knack
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I mean I'm not a professional but I've got a knack
Skullmaggot 7/30/2022 5:03 PM
I’m trying to assemble graphic designers. I’ll be posting on the r/IronFrontUSA subreddit later to see if I can find more. Would you want to work with other designers? Can I send people who need designs (e.g. flyers and stickers) made your way? Also, do you have examples of your work/a portfolio?
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JohnBrosGhost 7/30/2022 5:57 PM
Krat designed most of the OG IFUSA materials. Good shit
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Skullmaggot 7/30/2022 6:01 PM
Oh nice, like the logos and things? Have they done flyers? Do you have links?
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Skullmaggot 7/30/2022 7:50 PM
@YourFriendlyNeighborhoodHacker @Deleted User @Eightman @leo Hi, sorry for not reaching out sooner, I have finally gotten back to looking at intake. My team and I are performing a Human Resources role for the collaboration Discord. I'm @ ing you all because you've written that you do graphic design on your introductions. We are looking for graphic designers and leaders for a design strategy. Would any of you be willing to help with graphic design work? @leo You do A/V stuff too? Do you want to branch into that more? (edited)
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How do I volunteer my services? I have some graphic design skills and would be interested in lending them to this purpose.
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How do I volunteer my services? I have some graphic design skills and would be interested in lending them to this purpose.
I need some flyers to post opposing right wing extremist actions
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A big one recently was the right voting down a bill to aid vets
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I need some flyers to post opposing right wing extremist actions
Can you send me content? Also, are there any branding guides or logo files I could access?
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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Thursday said the widespread GOP opposition to the veterans' bill "has an immorality to it."
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We have a couple logos but not sure if we have png files of them. I can make some though if we don't.
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I'm not sure at this point if marking these flyers with AIF would be wise as they may cause some folks to think it is fabricated.
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We could possibly add a url bar code for mobile phones to direct to a credible news source for further reading
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Fair
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I'll be home later today and can take a look
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Also, I'd be happy to make EPS files of AIF logos so they can be reproduced well
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Fantastic. Thank you!
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shout out to u/CathodeRayNoob on reddit for making these
thechromatograph3r 7/31/2022 2:20 PM
That username is amazing
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thechromatograph3r 7/31/2022 2:27 PM
There isn’t a single “troop” Republicans “support” that they won’t fuck over
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How do I volunteer my services? I have some graphic design skills and would be interested in lending them to this purpose.
Skullmaggot 7/31/2022 4:58 PM
You can let me and the Human Resources Team know you exist, and if people need help with graphic design then they’ll post here or I’ll send them to you.
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You can let me and the Human Resources Team know you exist, and if people need help with graphic design then they’ll post here or I’ll send them to you.
Sounds great! Consider this official notice that I exist
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Skullmaggot 7/31/2022 7:15 PM
@Kraite Do you need people for any sort of projects? Graphic designers? Writers? Do you need people to place/hand out flyers? (edited)
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I’m trying to assemble graphic designers. I’ll be posting on the r/IronFrontUSA subreddit later to see if I can find more. Would you want to work with other designers? Can I send people who need designs (e.g. flyers and stickers) made your way? Also, do you have examples of your work/a portfolio?
Yes I would be down for colaborating w other designers and all that! As for my portfolio, I'm the designer of most of the existing AIF prop (edited)
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Yes I would be down for colaborating w other designers and all that! As for my portfolio, I'm the designer of most of the existing AIF prop (edited)
Skullmaggot 7/31/2022 7:30 PM
Yeah, JohnBrosGhost told me that. That’s cool. You also do the Twitter, right? Do you have projects/desires for media expansion? Do you need people for anything? I’ve been meeting with users and collecting names and skills for the past month, along with the rest of my small Human Resources Team.
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shout out to u/CathodeRayNoob on reddit for making these
I fuckin love these
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Yeah, JohnBrosGhost told me that. That’s cool. You also do the Twitter, right? Do you have projects/desires for media expansion? Do you need people for anything? I’ve been meeting with users and collecting names and skills for the past month, along with the rest of my small Human Resources Team.
Yeah, I can DM you
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Braakinthesaddle 8/2/2022 3:22 AM
Has potential. I'm not a GD tho
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Steve Mike 8/2/2022 6:48 AM
What do you all think of making t-shirts in the style of this AIF patch? I'm thinking the logo larger and centered on the chest. In a few of the typical "camo" colors like greens, browns, black. https://discord.com/channels/990403086675759136/992095909754187917/1003792902863982612
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possumtrot 8/2/2022 8:13 AM
I get where you're coming from, but it didn't immediately register to me as AIF
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Usually, a logo should not be altered significantly.
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"Big Oil against fascism" now there's a new one. kek (edited)
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possumtrot 8/2/2022 8:25 AM
For Texas, my mind goes to replacing the lone star on the flag with the three arrows
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Hate it. Oil is evil for many reasons including genocide on Texas soil.
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Using a couple big buzz words there. How about, the oil industry does not have a good track record for supporting democracy. Oil actively funds and bribes the fascists, and does everything in their power to protect their income, at the expense of society? This is true for most of the energy industry.
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Using a couple big buzz words there. How about, the oil industry does not have a good track record for supporting democracy. Oil actively funds and bribes the fascists, and does everything in their power to protect their income, at the expense of society? This is true for most of the energy industry.
Sorry if there are buzz words but it is the simplest way I can describe how Stephen F Austin favored genocide of Native Americans for their land in order to drill.
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The Osage tribe in Oklahoma became spectacularly wealthy in the early 1900s — and then members started turning up dead. David Grann's Killers of the Flower Moon describes the dark plot against them.
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I get how others use it, I just dont like it.
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Oil here in Texas came with a price
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and it wasnt on the those searching for it.
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It's just bad juju in my brain
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I would suggest looking at some natural things that are here in Texas
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I mean, it is already here and there is not much you can do about it. It does support an economy.
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I just don't want to include it on a flag the represents ant-fascism when that industry has bred it.
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You should dig into Stephen F Austin
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that dude was a big ol piece of shit
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yea man :/
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They dont teach this stuff in Texas History
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It's just bad juju in my brain
WojtektheBear 8/4/2022 2:11 PM
Look up the resource curse you’re not wrong
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Skullmaggot 8/8/2022 1:26 AM
@Graphic Designer can send prints to @Access to Printer/Mail
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possumtrot 8/8/2022 7:38 AM
You rang?
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@Graphic Designer can send prints to @Access to Printer/Mail
thechromatograph3r 8/8/2022 8:38 AM
I appear to be the only person in Northeast Ohio, so I don’t know how effective I’ll be at the moment.
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Well if you're willing to ship stuff farther, you can still help
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I am not a good graphic designer, so maybe you all can help with this. The idea is to have an AIF logo stencil that can be airbrushed, spray-painted, etc. My skills are limited to Powerpoint level editing, so here's where I'm at:
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Obviously it would be better if we could get those four blocks to be cut out of the file as transparent space
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Another idea I had would be to eliminate the circle around the arrows, to just have the 3 arrows as a stencil
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Skullmaggot 8/8/2022 12:06 PM
@possumtrot Want to help Steve Mike with the above?
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I appear to be the only person in Northeast Ohio, so I don’t know how effective I’ll be at the moment.
Skullmaggot 8/8/2022 12:08 PM
So, I’m going to be networking as aggressively as I can. Normally we’ve been getting people from the r/IronFrontUSA subreddit. Would you like a post for finding other people in Northeast Ohio?
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@possumtrot Want to help Steve Mike with the above?
Yeah, I think I can help with that. @Steve Mike do you have a size in mind?
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Skullmaggot 8/8/2022 12:24 PM
@Steve Mike Hey, possumtrot is here to help you out! Discuss what you need. (edited)
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Yeah, I think I can help with that. @Steve Mike do you have a size in mind?
So, the use cases for a stencil that I can think of would be 1.) covering up Nazi shit, and 2.) Decorating our own stuff, making quick signs for protests. So for #1 maybe we make a few sizes that are the most common for all those fashy stickers. Maybe a 3" and 5" We should determine the most common sizes for stickers. For #2, I think 12" or 18" would be good for a large protest sign. So if we chose those 4 sizes or something similar, we could produce stencil packs of multiple sizes, in a durable plastic material. Shipping would be pretty cheap
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18" might be hard to fit in a mail envelope
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But even if you can come up with just the files, local groups might be able to print them off individually (edited)
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And resizing them locally for specific cases shouldn't be too hard
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Alright, sounds good. I'll create a scalable EPS file, then use that to produce PDFs at various sizes that folks can download, print, and use
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Alright, sounds good. I'll create a scalable EPS file, then use that to produce PDFs at various sizes that folks can download, print, and use
Skullmaggot 8/8/2022 1:05 PM
Thanks!
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lmk what y'all would like next
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lmk what y'all would like next
Steve Mike 8/8/2022 6:22 PM
This is awesome! Thank you
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possumtrot 8/8/2022 6:22 PM
Happy to help!
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Steve Mike 8/8/2022 6:23 PM
Mission Possum-able
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OHHH!
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I'm sorry I'll see myself out
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possumtrot 8/8/2022 6:33 PM
Lol
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So, I’m going to be networking as aggressively as I can. Normally we’ve been getting people from the r/IronFrontUSA subreddit. Would you like a post for finding other people in Northeast Ohio?
thechromatograph3r 8/8/2022 9:44 PM
Absolutely
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Absolutely
Skullmaggot 8/8/2022 9:47 PM
Noted
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Absolutely
Skullmaggot 8/8/2022 9:48 PM
Though, what specifically were you hoping to be effective at in Ohio?
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possumtrot 8/8/2022 9:52 PM
Do y'all need an Ironfront Ohio flag?
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Though, what specifically were you hoping to be effective at in Ohio?
thechromatograph3r 8/8/2022 9:59 PM
Spreading awareness, anonymous recruitment
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Do y'all need an Ironfront Ohio flag?
thechromatograph3r 8/8/2022 9:59 PM
That would be great
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I will. Illustrator keeps crashing on me, so it won't be tonight.
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Do y'all need an Ironfront Ohio flag?
Braakinthesaddle 8/9/2022 4:25 AM
AZ flag? 👉👈
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Mission Possum-able
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J/k
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AZ flag? 👉👈
possumtrot 8/9/2022 8:27 AM
Added to the list
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This is a concept I had made awhile back in paint.net. kek It could be a lot prettier.
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possumtrot 8/9/2022 8:40 AM
I like that idea. I was going to replace the star in the center with the circle logo in appropriate colors
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This is a concept I had made awhile back in paint.net. kek It could be a lot prettier.
thechromatograph3r 8/9/2022 6:39 PM
I think this one's too subtle
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If it were bigger, you know?
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Longer arrows.
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I wanted it to be a Discord icon or pfp, so it's small.
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I kind of like the subtlety. Longer arrows wouldn't hurt though. I think it's pretty cool.
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If anyone is looking for inspiration and how to turn things into localized representations, check these out:
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Rochester one is mine, the other one is Krat's.
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possumtrot 8/9/2022 7:53 PM
Looking for feedback on these, if anyone's willing
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Designs that incorporate the arrows are best. (edited)
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The three arrows are meant to be slapped onto things to deface them, so literally slapping them onto a flag is kind of saying the flag is fascist, you know? Needs to be integrated somehow.
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possumtrot 8/9/2022 8:22 PM
I'm not quite sure what you mean. I don't see how what I posted above is different from what you have in your pfp
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I don't think he's just slapping them on. It looks like they are trying to be incorporated into the designs using the colors at the very least.
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I'll have some suggestions later this evening when I have time.
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The 1st flag specifically.
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It "interrupts" the design.
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That's what I mean.
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possumtrot 8/9/2022 8:34 PM
Because it replaces an element of the original design?
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That, and the transparency breaks up the sun rays.
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The 2nd flag is better, but hard to see.
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possumtrot 8/9/2022 8:35 PM
Makes sense
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Looking at Ohio and Kansas below, because those are more clear, what are your thoughts there?
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Those are great, I feel.
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I just can't emote them individually.
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possumtrot 8/9/2022 8:36 PM
Eh?
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It's all one big post.
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possumtrot 8/9/2022 8:37 PM
Oh, gotcha. Want me to share them individually? Or DM them to you?
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If I put a 👍 you wouldn't know to which I meant. safethink
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possumtrot 8/9/2022 8:37 PM
Ohhh
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I see
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Sorry
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No, not at all. Do as you please.
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Eightman's Buffalo flag is a perfect example of playing with the existing design, without interrupting or breaking it up.
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possumtrot 8/9/2022 8:38 PM
I get you
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Not every flag is going to be conducive to it, but sometimes the creative spark presents a solution. Now try one for Massachusetts Maryland that doesn't break anything. kek (edited)
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possumtrot 8/9/2022 8:40 PM
lol
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I don't think I'll touch the seals in bedsheets
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Not every flag is going to be conducive to it, but sometimes the creative spark presents a solution. Now try one for Massachusetts Maryland that doesn't break anything. kek (edited)
possumtrot 8/9/2022 9:28 PM
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A thought...
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Also messed around a bit with Iowa
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possumtrot 8/9/2022 9:41 PM
Also idk if this is anything
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@possumtrot Is that Maryland?
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possumtrot 8/9/2022 9:51 PM
Yep
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It was a response to the challenge to try making one for Maryland that didn't break anything
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Looking for feedback on these, if anyone's willing
Braakinthesaddle 8/9/2022 9:53 PM
For the AZ flags, I like the 4th one best
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possumtrot 8/9/2022 9:53 PM
The squarish icon with the arrows in the star?
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Braakinthesaddle 8/9/2022 9:53 PM
Still keeps the primary elements of the flags design, with AIF flair
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2nd one is close behind
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possumtrot 8/9/2022 9:54 PM
Thanks
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Very interesting!
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@Regnion Buffalo flag is Krat
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Thanks
Braakinthesaddle 8/9/2022 10:08 PM
The square one (#4) would make a good sticker, and the 2nd one, with its smaller star and arrows feels like a morale patch.
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Also idk if this is anything
WojtektheBear 8/10/2022 12:48 PM
Post some of these on the sub they’re cool
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Here's my feedback: The first design that has the circle in three arrows is okay, but the orange and yellow and red get lost in each other due to the transparent negative space. It still has possibilities though. I dig the second with the star and the blue arrows. The blue on the orange creates really nice contrast. You run into the same issue along the edge of the star where the orange and the red and the yellow are very similar in intensity and all warm colors, so you lose the top of the star a little bit. The third and fourth designs work a bit better because the focus is so much more on the center, and you have less of the red and yellow to visually bleed into the orange star. The second star and arrows design works really well. I wonder if adding a concentric blue line around the star with a bit of negative space between it and the orange might make it stand out more? I really dig the triangular design on the second flag. It looks really sharp. Even close up. I feel like you could make the arrows a bit beefier on the sunflower design? I like that one as well though. The yellow and blue create a good contrast. I think the Maryland one is really sharp and easily recognizable. I wonder what it would look like with a ring of color around the white with the Maryland flag design behind it, mimicking how you have the arrows. Or perhaps making the arrows a bit thicker. It still looks really good regardless. I like both of the Iowa designs, and I really like the second one in particular. I would suggest trying a slightly darker hue of red, but other than that it looks really good.
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Skullmaggot 8/10/2022 2:04 PM
Hi, we’re looking for bilingual/multilingual speakers who can help use type up distributable materials in multiple languages (Spanish, Mandarin, Vietnamese, etc.)!
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RedMoonWarrior 8/10/2022 2:55 PM
Reporting for duty, sir.
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但是,沒有那麼多華人以為美國的政治問題。如果他們以為這些事有趣,他們能講英文。
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thechromatograph3r 8/10/2022 3:12 PM
These are amazing!
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Braakinthesaddle 8/10/2022 3:57 PM
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These are a couple of the older flyers translated into Spanish. Feel free to use.
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It'd be good to add a QR code to the designs
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thechromatograph3r 8/10/2022 4:04 PM
Which general flyer works best for spreading awareness of our organization?
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Braakinthesaddle 8/10/2022 4:08 PM
There are several on the Google Drive. It's on the sidebar of the subreddit. Most of them have been around for awhile tho, so if you want some that are newer, there are some on here, or we can put out a call for new designs. I'm not skilled at GD, or I'd be making more myself.
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Reporting for duty, sir.
Skullmaggot 8/10/2022 6:07 PM
Haven’t gotten quite the go ahead yet! 😂
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@Kraite So, there’s the capacity to make stuff (e.g. flyers) in multiple languages. @RedMoonWarrior here knows Mandarin.
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Who’s been doing the Spanish stuff?
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Here's my feedback: The first design that has the circle in three arrows is okay, but the orange and yellow and red get lost in each other due to the transparent negative space. It still has possibilities though. I dig the second with the star and the blue arrows. The blue on the orange creates really nice contrast. You run into the same issue along the edge of the star where the orange and the red and the yellow are very similar in intensity and all warm colors, so you lose the top of the star a little bit. The third and fourth designs work a bit better because the focus is so much more on the center, and you have less of the red and yellow to visually bleed into the orange star. The second star and arrows design works really well. I wonder if adding a concentric blue line around the star with a bit of negative space between it and the orange might make it stand out more? I really dig the triangular design on the second flag. It looks really sharp. Even close up. I feel like you could make the arrows a bit beefier on the sunflower design? I like that one as well though. The yellow and blue create a good contrast. I think the Maryland one is really sharp and easily recognizable. I wonder what it would look like with a ring of color around the white with the Maryland flag design behind it, mimicking how you have the arrows. Or perhaps making the arrows a bit thicker. It still looks really good regardless. I like both of the Iowa designs, and I really like the second one in particular. I would suggest trying a slightly darker hue of red, but other than that it looks really good.
I appreciate you taking the time!
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@Kraite So, there’s the capacity to make stuff (e.g. flyers) in multiple languages. @RedMoonWarrior here knows Mandarin.
That's a great idea!
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Who’s been doing the Spanish stuff?
Braakinthesaddle 8/10/2022 6:47 PM
Not sure. They were already translated when I joined
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anyone know the name of the font that's used on this idaho militia logo? i know for a fact that it's available on windows but sudddenly i can't find it anywhere
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this is what i'm trying to do with it
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Here are results from What the Font
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Stencil Bold has my vote
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huh, I must have been imagining things. Thanks!
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For sure
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If you need a similar one and you need a source, try DaFont.com
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Incredible
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I feel like putting "Moron Labia" on the Iron Front symbolism sends the wrong message, by accident. Would be better as a stand-alone thing. (edited)
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It's like putting "Idiot" on your own photo.
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It's like putting "Idiot" on your own photo.
Honestly I would probably do that
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I feel like putting "Moron Labia" on the Iron Front symbolism sends the wrong message, by accident. Would be better as a stand-alone thing. (edited)
thechromatograph3r 8/11/2022 2:20 PM
My thoughts exactly. Still funny, though
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i'd love something like this on a patch for my state
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I feel like putting "Moron Labia" on the Iron Front symbolism sends the wrong message, by accident. Would be better as a stand-alone thing. (edited)
Seconded. The design itself looks badass - Maybe a cool bumper sticker to subvert expectations of fellow motorists (not sure id wear it as a patch tho bc it looks very Patriot Front) (edited)
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Yeah, you don't put derogatory things on your own logos. You put things like "democracy" and "fight fascism" and "equal rights" and so on.
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You would send a mixed message and people will assume the worst; that you're confidently incorrect, and a fascist. (edited)
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CaulPartBallMop 8/12/2022 7:38 PM
Can anybody here make a shitty boomer meme pushing this narrative (don't vote desantis he's part of the deep state) to proliferate on Facebook for trolling/psyop purposes?
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"Nobody wants to molon your labe."
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 8:39 PM
@NotJohnElway Hi! We haven’t weaponized bees yet, but come check out the graphic-designers channel! Would you like to be sent any graphic design work?
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Skullmaggot 8/13/2022 10:43 PM
@possumtrot Hi, just letting you know ahead of time of the possibility of Chinese-language materials. I’m looking at Chinese fonts that are clean and fit our work, like Heiti: https://design.tutsplus.com/articles/the-complete-beginners-guide-to-chinese-fonts--cms-23444
What's the story of Chinese typography? What are some popular Chinese fonts? Find out these answers and more in this complete guide!
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Skullmaggot 8/14/2022 1:23 AM
@possumtrot I think we're going to start translating a few flyers on the subreddit into Mandarin with the help of @RedMoonWarrior . It looks like a big job, so I'll see if I can also get some more graphic designers.
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@Skullmaggot I will see if/how I can help. I have exactly zero experience with any Mandarin
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@Skullmaggot I will see if/how I can help. I have exactly zero experience with any Mandarin
Skullmaggot 8/14/2022 11:25 AM
Same here. I think we’ll stick to established fonts. RedMoonWarrior will look at the flyers for revisions before we would publish them. It’s also the case that existing flyers appeal much more to Whites, where it would be more useful to have imagery that would appeal to Chinese Americans. (For example, in California use Golden Gate imagery.)
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Ok
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Braakinthesaddle 8/14/2022 12:09 PM
If we need something translated to Russian, I can help with that. Idk if that'll be necessary tho lol
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I took all your suggestions into account and redid this one a bit. Does the design itself still seem fashy? Remember that the original idea was to take the piss out of the idaho militia, which is why it looks the way it does (edited)
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inverted colors; let me know if there are other color schemes i should consider (edited)
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also, if the design is okay, if anyone wants a variation for their state let me know (edited)
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I took all your suggestions into account and redid this one a bit. Does the design itself still seem fashy? Remember that the original idea was to take the piss out of the idaho militia, which is why it looks the way it does (edited)
This is nice. I would try using the same color scheme as the original 3-percenters logo, that way at first glance it looks like one of theirs, but then you read it and go "wait a minute" Like how parodies of famous brands are in the same style and color, but the text is different (edited)
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Skullmaggot 8/14/2022 7:01 PM
I think you're missing "Iron"?
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I think you're missing "Iron"?
RedMoonWarrior 8/14/2022 9:16 PM
Oh shoot yes I am
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I wrote too fast lol
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WojtektheBear 8/14/2022 9:20 PM
This is very cool, nice work. Do you have a place you'd want to distribute it in mind?
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This is very cool, nice work. Do you have a place you'd want to distribute it in mind?
RedMoonWarrior 8/14/2022 9:26 PM
Not a clue.
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I’m just a translator. But I can give it some thought.
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This is nice. I would try using the same color scheme as the original 3-percenters logo, that way at first glance it looks like one of theirs, but then you read it and go "wait a minute" Like how parodies of famous brands are in the same style and color, but the text is different (edited)
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I’m just a translator. But I can give it some thought.
WojtektheBear 8/14/2022 9:28 PM
@braak has talked about distributing Spanish language materials in immigrant neighborhoods, that sort of thing
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Not a clue.
Skullmaggot 8/14/2022 9:28 PM
Haha, not anywhere in California? Not your own community?
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WojtektheBear 8/14/2022 9:28 PM
the colors pop the fuck off I love it more
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hell yeah. again, if anyone wants a variation for their state, let me know
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Skullmaggot 8/14/2022 9:29 PM
Pretty cool
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Not a clue.
Skullmaggot 8/14/2022 9:30 PM
Actually, I wonder if I can post it around here myself! (edited)
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hell yeah. again, if anyone wants a variation for their state, let me know
WojtektheBear 8/14/2022 9:35 PM
massachusetts
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also a broader new england one would be nice, we have regional devils
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cool, i'll get started on them when i get home from work tomorrow
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Haha, not anywhere in California? Not your own community?
RedMoonWarrior 8/14/2022 10:23 PM
They either speak English and are dems or they’re not onboard with democracy.
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Actually, I wonder if I can post it around here myself! (edited)
RedMoonWarrior 8/14/2022 10:24 PM
Go ahead, once I make the correct my dumbass move lol and it’s processed into a proper poster.
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Skullmaggot 8/14/2022 10:39 PM
@JB Oh, did I get you organized yet? Do you want to be sent design work?
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RedMoonWarrior 8/15/2022 12:10 AM
Here is a crude mockup of the translated Lady Liberty poster that I have edited to remove the hilarious typo. I have attempted to follow the spirit of the original poster by preserving the three rows of joined nouns, giving us: to American all people Iron Front with freedom and Justice
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I took all your suggestions into account and redid this one a bit. Does the design itself still seem fashy? Remember that the original idea was to take the piss out of the idaho militia, which is why it looks the way it does (edited)
thechromatograph3r 8/15/2022 8:31 AM
It says “fight fascism,” so I think you’re good
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Anyone interested in helping design a flyer to hand out about Boston Children's Hospital being targeted/general Nazi awareness in Massachusetts?
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Anyone interested in helping design a flyer to hand out about Boston Children's Hospital being targeted/general Nazi awareness in Massachusetts?
thechromatograph3r 8/18/2022 6:36 PM
Sure… I think. I’m better at tweaking existing designs than de novo, though. We also need to make sure that the design doesn’t spread panic.
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Yeah. I've got a draft of the text/layout I can share if you want to see what I'm thinking. I'd definitely love a second set of eyes for editorial stuff too, not just graphics
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thechromatograph3r 8/18/2022 6:50 PM
Sure thing!
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Ok I'll dm you the link in a minute
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Ok I'll dm you the link in a minute
WojtektheBear 8/19/2022 11:04 AM
Me too?
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Sure just a sec
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MisterStompy 8/21/2022 12:29 PM
Anybody interested in putting AIF stuff on this?
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thechromatograph3r 8/22/2022 2:45 PM
Can probably be done in MS Word
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Anyone interested in helping design a flyer to hand out about Boston Children's Hospital being targeted/general Nazi awareness in Massachusetts?
Is this still needed?
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Is this still needed?
Nope! All set. Here's the result if you're interested.
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Nice! (edited)
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Nope! All set. Here's the result if you're interested.
thechromatograph3r 8/28/2022 11:49 AM
I’m satisfied with our final result here. Nice QR code
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I’m satisfied with our final result here. Nice QR code
Yeah! Thanks for all your help. 😊 If you're looking for another thing to work on, I'd love to get the qr code on more of the classic/non-issue-specific iron front flyers eventually so we can hand them out at MA events.
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Ok I've got another job! Anyone want to help design an invite image for a protest to be shared around social media?
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Skullmaggot 9/12/2022 2:35 AM
@possumtrot Hi, I've gotten the go-ahead to ramp up a few things. I'm going to eventually put in a project manager for a graphic design team, just someone who I can have organize graphic designers. We're also going to do a website and graphic design help would be appreciated on that if you're still active and interested.
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I would be happy to help, just let me know what the needs are
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I would be happy to help, just let me know what the needs are
Skullmaggot 9/12/2022 2:41 PM
So, right now, people are figuring out how to do a website on the #web-development channel. 444aidan is a web developer and could use help. Steve Mike is project manager, and curcale is helping out with ideas. If you have questions and I’m not available, refer to curcale or C.J.
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Skullmaggot 9/14/2022 1:36 PM
@joe hill’s revenge @austinwiltshire Hiya! I’m introducing vibeshifter, who has been coming up with all sorts of good ideas and wants to get a flyer drive going. They’re in New Jersey looking to make connections and do some student organizing. Austinwiltshire, you’re moving to Maryland, maybe? How’s that been? You looking for a house or apartment?
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austinwiltshire 9/14/2022 4:21 PM
We need to see how this election in Texas goes
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We're looking in the silver spring/DC area
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I'd be happy to help advise/consult on any issues people have on organizing and managing volunteers. My background is as a management consultant
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Just dm me or at me in a public channel
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Skullmaggot 9/15/2022 1:53 AM
@here So, I'm looking to establish a project manager for a Graphic Design Team. This could be a bigger role because I would need the project manager to be able to find and guide graphic designers towards project goals as well as keep a team together during downtime. I think at the moment we don't have too many regular graphic designers. I need to put time into finding more. I apologize for the wait but things will be ramping up now. (edited)
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Quelque Fleur de Lis s'il vous plait (edited)
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hm very cool
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thechromatograph3r 9/26/2022 9:46 AM
Gives me commie vibes
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Oh, I've seen the black and red used commonly by anti fascists. The fleur de lis is common in Louisville, New Orleans, other places with French heritage
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Might actually have French monarchies vibes, but the idea is putting an anti fascist spin on a common symbol people are used to seeing
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Got a request for some help with the website: On the home page, in the image carousel that scrolls through the flyers, we want to replace those with powerful photos, both historical and current, of resistance, protest, etc. Emotionally charged images to inspire and motivate people. Black and white or color. What should we add? Post images here you'd like to see on the home page! http://ironfrontusa.org
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IvanAlbright 10/7/2022 10:42 AM
Is there a copyright limitation? I like that graphic artwork btw.
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That's a good point. We have to have permission from the owners unless the image is in the public domain or has a creative commons license allowing use. To make sure we cover our asses, how about we all include the URL when you find a good photo to use and I'll make sure we have permission
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IvanAlbright 10/7/2022 12:46 PM
Something like this?
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IvanAlbright 10/7/2022 12:55 PM
I was playing around with putting the fists back in with the three arrows. I don't know how I feel about it. A bit cartoony maybe. Thoughts?
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Well those PNG exports from Illustrator aren't uniform but you get the idea
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Honestly, don't know how I feel about it. But here it is in red anyway 🙂 (edited)
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Also made this because I wanted my own T-shirt. Recreated his custom sharp's rifle in Illustrator. Can we make John Brown one of our American Iron Front Patron Saints?
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Something like this?
That's rad. Do we have permission to use that? Did you take those photos? (edited)
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IvanAlbright 10/8/2022 12:54 PM
Sorry, I found the photos online. (edited)
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Sorry, I found the photos online. (edited)
That could be ok still, we just need to see what kind of license the owner is using. You can send me the link to where you found them and I'll investigate
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joe hill’s revenge 10/12/2022 9:06 PM
I'm in a couple art servers, would it be worth it to ask if anyone is down to do comissions for the group
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go for it
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i mean there's not much reason not to
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Also made this because I wanted my own T-shirt. Recreated his custom sharp's rifle in Illustrator. Can we make John Brown one of our American Iron Front Patron Saints?
WojtektheBear 10/13/2022 2:45 PM
Always has been
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We actually have a JB design we made for Juneteenth last year in the Google drive
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We actually have a JB design we made for Juneteenth last year in the Google drive
IvanAlbright 10/13/2022 2:47 PM
Google drive? Missed that link.
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Google drive? Missed that link.
WojtektheBear 10/13/2022 2:47 PM
Sidebar of the subreddit under flyers
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Sidebar of the subreddit under flyers
IvanAlbright 10/13/2022 2:54 PM
Those flyers are great! (edited)
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Those flyers are great! (edited)
WojtektheBear 10/13/2022 2:55 PM
Yeah we could definitely do with other figures, tailoring them to the local area
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Yeah we could definitely do with other figures, tailoring them to the local area
IvanAlbright 10/13/2022 2:56 PM
Totally agree. Recently moved to Ohio, which has a rich history of anti-slavers, Confederate slayers, and heroes of the civil rights, so on. This state desperately needs a reminder of that.
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i mean there's not much reason not to
joe hill’s revenge 10/15/2022 11:28 PM
A few people said they’d do it for free cause they support our cause
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And one person joined the server
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hell yea awesome
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Heey I’m looking to have a couple Canadian Iron Front images I can post on my startup instagram page, I can send someone money or even Ethereum if they can make a few images for me. I just don’t want to use google images and then run into conflict later for using someone else’s images
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Here are the fonts and colors used on the website http://ironfrontusa.org In case you all want to match them with other content you create Fonts: "LinLibertine_aDRS" - body text - Font used in the paragraphs "BebasNeue-Bold" - header text - Font used for titles of sections Colors: rgb(72, 61, 139) "Dark Slate Blue" - Banner color rgb(60, 59, 110) - text hyperlink color (matches the blue in the flag) rgb(255, 255, 255) - full white for text in banner
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Dr_Diskette 11/1/2022 9:20 AM
Y’all real shit killing it in here so damn proud as a GD teacher
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I'm no graphic designer, but I would like to send an image I really enjoy:
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The center of the seal of the Dept of Veteran's Affairs has a great one
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Perhaps it could be used
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in some AIF content
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(with the text cropped out of course)
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Roughest of rough digital mock-up:
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I'm thinking it can be a good use of symbols to show support for reproductive rights for women and those who have uteruses. (edited)
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I'll be sharpening it, adding details, etc.
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Any input or suggestions are always appreciated.
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The trouble I have with combining the Iron Front logo with other stuff is how the three arrows are so frequently used over top of other things (like swastikas) that anything like this feels like the arrows are being used against the thing you're trying to combine with
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I'm going to make a few versions to see how they look with the shield, so it won't be the three arrows alone. I'm going for a message of reproductive rights being an anti-fascist ideal.
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Oo, maybe I can use a hanger instead of a reproductive system. Three arrows over a hanger.
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This would be cool with a different background flag
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I might try to edit it and put a Gadsden flag behind it or something. Some other patriotic but non- or anti-fascist flag
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Fun fact: I made that. XD
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But Gadsen is generally appropriated by terrible people for the worst reasons. I still have the files though, so I could get in and change the flag relatively easily. (edited)
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Fun fact: I made that. XD
You're the "Relentless" guy? (edited)
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@knuckles Yup! Where did you find it? (edited)
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The stars took forever. :/
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@knuckles Yup! Where did you find it? (edited)
Some random forum
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Via Google images
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I'm no graphic designer, but I would like to send an image I really enjoy:
JohnBrosGhost 11/17/2022 10:36 PM
here's a copy of the US seal I made with the eagle carrying three arrows.
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JohnBrosGhost 11/17/2022 11:07 PM
Here's an AIF version
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Cool concept
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I had an idea a while back of the eagle flying and pointing the arrows at something (perhaps a swastika), or piercing something with them, but still holding the olive branch in the other talon
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Never got around to making it
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This is really good though. Someone who isn't familiar with the three arrows might not even notice it, but that's not necessarily a bad thing either. It's more subtle
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will definitely use this come dec 3rd
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will definitely use this come dec 3rd
JohnBrosGhost 11/18/2022 8:04 AM
Let me rework it a tad, over in #flyers-and-stickers it was pointed out a little to close to American Identity Movement's old logo
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LessthanLoneWolf 11/18/2022 8:22 AM
This is badass!
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What's happening December 3rd?
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What's happening December 3rd?
joe hill’s revenge 11/20/2022 3:32 PM
Flyer drive
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Has anybody made a Betsy Ross flag with the three arrows in the center of the ring of stars? I think it could look good. If not, I'll make some versions of it later
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Has anybody made a Betsy Ross flag with the three arrows in the center of the ring of stars? I think it could look good. If not, I'll make some versions of it later
i gotchu, one minute lemme find it
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Thanks
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@knuckles
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That looks pretty good
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@here @UnknownHey folks, we are going to create an AIF 'zine! We have a new channel #zine, please join if you would like to contribute to the design!
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Any site/program you folks can recommended to someone wanting to start designing like I see here?
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@horhay Canva is good for a quick start, and Adobe is the gold standard. Inkscape is a great free option, if less intuitive and powerful than Illustrator.
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Krita is fine for photo stuff and some digital painting, considering it's free.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 11/23/2022 6:31 PM
oh yeah canva is pretty good
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Ok I have a random mystery that maybe y'all will be able to help me solve. What's up with the Pitchfork media logo? Is it intentional that it's so similar to the Iron Front arrows? I've been searching online and haven't found anything yet. Like... Did their designers do it on purpose? I can't imagine they wouldn't be aware of the significance...
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joe hill’s revenge 11/24/2022 1:42 AM
I think it’s meant to be a pitchfork
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They should use a better pitchfork. May I suggest this one?:
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but yeah nah, it's a pitchfork stylized to have arrows; nothing to do with Iron Front
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a reversed three arrows would be weird. signalling being pro-fascism, pro-monarchism and pro-authcommunism simultaneously? (edited)
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Got back into making flags, made one for iron front as a test
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Interesting design
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Thanks. Not much of a fan of "in the corner" style of flags, so I usually try to put stuff in the center to keep it balanced
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Thanks. Not much of a fan of "in the corner" style of flags, so I usually try to put stuff in the center to keep it balanced
joe hill’s revenge 11/25/2022 2:44 PM
Hey could u do a tutorial on flag making?
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I'm not very much of a teacher, but the software I use has a tutorial about flag making and using their software
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Flagmaker & Print is a vexillology service featuring a free online flag designer that helps you design and print your own fictional country flags. Founded by Vexillology enthousiasts and historical fiction fans, FM&P is the world's first flag making service tailored exclusively to the vexillology audience.
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joe hill’s revenge 11/26/2022 4:30 PM
Hey would anyone be able to@make a logo for the Ohio chapter?
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It wound meld aif imagery with Ohio state
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Hey would anyone be able to@make a logo for the Ohio chapter?
Perhaps try KASIZAH
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6L3THAL also seems to do art but I haven't spoken with them much.
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6L3THAL#0663 11/27/2022 12:51 PM
Hi hi! Sorry for the delayed response
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Yeah I'd love to help out
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6L3THAL#0663 11/28/2022 2:46 AM
This is a bit of a simple flag design but I think it looks ok
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Ehh too much association with colonial/post colonial atrocities for my liking. But very well executed as a design. But why 17 stars?
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Hey would anyone be able to@make a logo for the Ohio chapter?
JohnBrosGhost 11/28/2022 10:18 AM
simplified design
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6L3THAL#0663 11/28/2022 2:04 PM
Oooh I like that!
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joe hill’s revenge 11/28/2022 3:28 PM
Only thing is it needs to be a square logo for social media
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Trying my hand at some Canadian themed anti fascist styles, this one is my favourite so far
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JohnBrosGhost 12/2/2022 1:19 AM
Putting this in here to remind myself to design a bumper sticker in the style of “legalize it” but with three arrows instead of a pot leaf and “normalize it” as the text
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Cool idea for QR codes
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JohnBrosGhost 12/2/2022 9:04 AM
Removed
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JohnBrosGhost 12/2/2022 3:18 PM
posting these Pride Arrows for folks to use:
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last one
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/2/2022 3:57 PM
nice, I think the ones were the arrows are not painted are better, it gives contrast
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/2/2022 3:57 PM
personally, I think this one is the best
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JohnBrosGhost 12/2/2022 3:58 PM
yep, me as well. Just wanted to give options
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/2/2022 4:05 PM
nice
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Very very pretty
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The best one
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yeah i think the last two are the best as they are instantly identifiable as Pride-related. Good to have both options depending on the specific use
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Lord B00F II 12/2/2022 5:07 PM
I need this.
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I need this.
It's on RedBubble!
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Happy to send you the file, too
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Lord B00F II 12/2/2022 5:23 PM
Many thanks fam, as a Kansan I fucking love it.
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Originally meant for today, but someone else already completed what they needed, so here's my quarter sheet.
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@Renée What do you think about making the text white, and having a red, a white and a blue arrow? It might make it more easily readable.
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@JohnBrosGhost I like the last two the most!
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@Renée What do you think about making the text white, and having a red, a white and a blue arrow? It might make it more easily readable.
Sure
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Is that on a patch?
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Noo just a random design but it should be
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Noo just a random design but it should be
I made it so if anyone likes it feel free to reproduce
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Hey would anyone be able to@make a logo for the Ohio chapter?
BuckEye-ronFront
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Literally everything about Ohio centers around that fucking college don't it.
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Crude Ohio
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Sorry for spam 😅 my save file format doesn’t match my actual design for some reason
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Inverted Ohio
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*awareness
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*awareness
Good thing I didn’t post that anywhere else
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Skullmaggot 12/8/2022 5:41 PM
What do the upside-down Canadian leaves represent?
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What do the upside-down Canadian leaves represent?
Separating from the monarchy, King George
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Well not abolishment through violence but through democratic processes
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Separating from the monarchy, King George
Skullmaggot 12/8/2022 5:43 PM
Oh, interesting. The leaf is a symbol of the monarchy? I never knew that.
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I don’t think anyone commonly knows that the leaf or flag even means, I’ll have to look it up
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Skullmaggot 12/8/2022 5:44 PM
Canadian flag = hockey
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Canadian flag = hockey
I’m one of the anomalies that grew up on a ranch and around hockey fans and went on to not like country or hockey
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The canadian government can be pretty Orwellian about history
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/8/2022 5:50 PM
specially native history
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Skullmaggot 12/8/2022 5:52 PM
My Dad plans to move us all to Vancouver if the fascists take over.
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My Dad plans to move us all to Vancouver if the fascists take over.
If that happens we could team up, I’m just a few hours north
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I’m going there for winter break
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Skullmaggot 12/8/2022 6:00 PM
How is Vancouver?
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We got family there but I’ve never personally been.
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We got family there but I’ve never personally been.
It’s actually not bad depending on who you hang out with considering I’m more of a rural guy, there’s definitely more activism going on Vancouver/Victoria and the island compared to where I’m at
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Skullmaggot 12/8/2022 6:11 PM
I ought to reach out more to antifascist groups in other countries, especially Canada and Europe. There was a Qanon plot to replace the government in Germany that was foiled, if you’ve seen that in the news.
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I ought to reach out more to antifascist groups in other countries, especially Canada and Europe. There was a Qanon plot to replace the government in Germany that was foiled, if you’ve seen that in the news.
Yeah I saw that, the “Wexit” movement and the sov-cit movement (ancaps) want to separate west Canada into its own conservative sovereign body, backed by far right militants
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BC is the only left leaning province of the 4 western provinces, the rest are hotbeds for fascists
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Skullmaggot 12/8/2022 6:46 PM
Need to eventually come up a model of how fascism spreads in some areas and not as much in others.
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Rural echo chamber life, one highschool for 3 towns life
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This just confirms to me that rural life, is indeed, the worse lowkey
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Skullmaggot 12/8/2022 8:49 PM
That’s a pretty interesting experience. My town used to be a cowtown and still does plenty of agriculture but has only in the last couple years gotten some affordable housing and with it come in more ethnicities. We for some reason have a decent Asian population but no Asian grocery, so I end up going to a nearby town to stock up on supplies. And, it’s not even a Southeast Asian grocery but an East Asian one (and there’s also South Asian groceries I go to). I guess it’s a little weird but the culture of my town is White+Chinese+Vietnamese+Indian+Mexican built on the backs of cowboys, now with new peoples rolling in. We’re the smallest town for miles but our county punches above its weight in terms of diversity. Far cry from the cities, though. Cities never feel natural for me in terms of just no green spaces.
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My town’s suburban now but I’ve always lived in a multicultural pocket.
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I grew up in a cowtown too
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provided, it kinda grew into a Suburban town later but growing up while it wasn't necessarily the worse, there was issues with discrimination and some right wing fuckery until basically the population of the surrounding cities/towns started to affect it more seriously. But it requires more or less said small town forced to adapt or get absorbed by the other areas
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but considering the outskirts of said town are still red as alabama...in a sea of purple-blue
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yeah I'm not one for rural small town experiences
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I don't see it in a romantic light. Almost the polar opposite in fact
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Where I’m from is all corn but the corn is for animal feed and groceries are expensive enough that it’s cheaper for me to drive 15 mins to the next town for groceries
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Skullmaggot 12/8/2022 10:37 PM
We got orchards and strawberries and cows over here. Corn is on the other side of the hill. My sister learned how to ride horseback in middle school, but I never had the inclination. Do they have horses in Canadian ranches? @Aces high Farms are exploitative. Seasonal laborers are underpaid. Good food though at the market. But if we’re just talking about aesthetics, it’s not like I’m in love with the country (though I do enjoy the outdoors sometimes), it’s more that cities feel claustrophobic, move around too busily, and smell weird :D. And there’s a more overt homeless problem. And the food’s too expensive. I think I’d just be super stressed being in a city too long.
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We got orchards and strawberries and cows over here. Corn is on the other side of the hill. My sister learned how to ride horseback in middle school, but I never had the inclination. Do they have horses in Canadian ranches? @Aces high Farms are exploitative. Seasonal laborers are underpaid. Good food though at the market. But if we’re just talking about aesthetics, it’s not like I’m in love with the country (though I do enjoy the outdoors sometimes), it’s more that cities feel claustrophobic, move around too busily, and smell weird :D. And there’s a more overt homeless problem. And the food’s too expensive. I think I’d just be super stressed being in a city too long.
I live on a horse ranch & am trained yeah 🤣 I rode a horse recently but it’s not my hobby of choice
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Skullmaggot 12/9/2022 12:31 AM
Cool
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Yeah, I've never been to a rodeo either, not my thing.
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We got orchards and strawberries and cows over here. Corn is on the other side of the hill. My sister learned how to ride horseback in middle school, but I never had the inclination. Do they have horses in Canadian ranches? @Aces high Farms are exploitative. Seasonal laborers are underpaid. Good food though at the market. But if we’re just talking about aesthetics, it’s not like I’m in love with the country (though I do enjoy the outdoors sometimes), it’s more that cities feel claustrophobic, move around too busily, and smell weird :D. And there’s a more overt homeless problem. And the food’s too expensive. I think I’d just be super stressed being in a city too long.
cattle farmers in all areas of the world use horses
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also with other livestock like sheep
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cattle farmers in all areas of the world use horses
Skullmaggot 12/9/2022 3:19 PM
Oh yeah! I’ve been meaning to ask you about your pony picture! Is it one of yours or just visiting?
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Oh yeah! I’ve been meaning to ask you about your pony picture! Is it one of yours or just visiting?
Oh I take riding lessons and trail ride whenever I can, I would love to own a horse someday but for now I just do a half-lease
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Of this dude
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Skullmaggot 12/9/2022 5:00 PM
That’s cool. I don’t know horse breeds at all though!
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I adore horses, but they require SO much specialized knowledge for their basic maintenance.
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I adore horses, but they require SO much specialized knowledge for their basic maintenance.
I adore learning that shi-
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And doing it
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I do miss horse riding.
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Except when I'm getting frustrated with myself, horseback is my happy place
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It's really a great activity if you can do it
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Horses I believe will be necessary by about 2050. So that's awesome!
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I like my iron horse : ) but real horses are cuter
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I like my iron horse : ) but real horses are cuter
Felt.
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spacewolf05 12/9/2022 11:06 PM
Hello
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I was recommended here by @Skullmaggot many months ago and I have just repliied.
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I was recommended here by @Skullmaggot many months ago and I have just repliied.
@spacewolf05 hey! And welcome! We've got some awesome artists here. You can scroll back through and see what they've made to get a feel for what others are working on. I think right now I think our biggest needs are: 1. Flyers, especially flyers for specific states and more specific issues (pro trans rights, pro gay rights, pro-abortion, pro indigenous sovereignty, anti-racism) 2. Social media avatars and banners for state chapters 3. Any other anti-fascist art you wanna make, we'd love to share it on our social media and/or turn it into flyers!
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Also other folks please chime in if I missed other types of stuff we're looking for currently
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Hey! Does anyone want to help me design a visually-appealing informational flyer? Someone with experience in infographics or the like might be the best fit if that helps give a sense.
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Of this dude
Arabian?
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Arabian?
More of a mutt really. Arabian is definitely his dominant breed though
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/13/2022 4:00 PM
Quick request; can someone make one of the AIF roundels with “FASCISM KILLS” on the top and “KILL FASCISM” on the bottom?
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a design similar to this
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I can try to take a quick stab at it. Do we have blank templates to start with?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/13/2022 6:19 PM
kill fascism. while i don’t necessarily disagree, our movement needs to maintain legitimacy via not advocating violence. it’s also just a bit too jarring. Thanks, though! (edited)
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Ack, my bad, sorry and that is a good point
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I’m in the car now but I can fix it when I get home
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/13/2022 6:27 PM
Awesome, thanks man.
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@floppunism [BOI, ID] ^^
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/13/2022 8:05 PM
perfect
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many thanks
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I've been trying to come up with a stylized/graffiti letter AIF logos wherein the letters and arrows are combined. But every time, my F looks like an E. So here's a little challenge: who can draw an F that has an arrow as the vertical line or merging with the vertical line, in a way that it works but be read as the letter E, using only black lines? (edited)
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I've been trying to come up with a stylized/graffiti letter AIF logos wherein the letters and arrows are combined. But every time, my F looks like an E. So here's a little challenge: who can draw an F that has an arrow as the vertical line or merging with the vertical line, in a way that it works but be read as the letter E, using only black lines? (edited)
I don’t suppose you have an example of what you’re talking about? I’m having trouble visualizing it.
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It ain't much, but I muse it could make a decent sticker
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It ain't much, but I muse it could make a decent sticker
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 12/16/2022 11:45 PM
AIF looks a little like ATF but otherwise it's fine.
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Don't join the ATF by the way.
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font choice probably
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might change it to just Ironfront
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in pc monitor you can read it as a I but shrunken down it does look vaguely like a T
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/17/2022 1:48 AM
iron front, yeah
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abbreviations are confusing and make it harder to gain understanding
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it also muddies meaning. BLM could mean Black Lives Matter or the Bureau of Land Management
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/17/2022 8:33 AM
I must admit
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before joining, I had no idea what the group was
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and I got really concerned because I thought this was some sort of....far right group until Archon explained to me what it was (edited)
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and I got really concerned because I thought this was some sort of....far right group until Archon explained to me what it was (edited)
Public image is important 🙂
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/17/2022 9:48 AM
true that
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I was confused too. I like bringing back the Iron Front in a modern context. It feels like the right spirit to bring to the fight. But we should be mindful that people who don’t already have that context will jump to alarming conclusions when they hear “Iron Front”
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I'm not against maybe a less fashy looking logo tbh. I know it was meant to be mocking 3%ers but I do think we need a proper explicitly anti-fash logo
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I still think the biggest problem in that respect is the use of stars
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I'm not against maybe a less fashy looking logo tbh. I know it was meant to be mocking 3%ers but I do think we need a proper explicitly anti-fash logo
This is what we've used for most stuff before. The Captain America imagrey is suposed to more anti fash bc punching Hitler and all that
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As much as the arrows in the stars looks cool I agree it's way too visually similar to the III% emblem
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And thank you for making the Captain America imagery explicit — I vaguely noticed the resemblance but didn’t think through exactly how appropriate that makes it
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/17/2022 5:42 PM
new movement, new symbol!
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/17/2022 5:54 PM
maybe we should do a thing where people design a new symbol that’s derivative or similar to the three arrows and the server votes on a winner? or maybe even a whole new thing
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we can obv maintain the iron front symbol for action but we need a more… palatable symbol, as well
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I would rather not choose a symbol by discord poll.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/17/2022 9:48 PM
How else do you propose it’s done, then?
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As a general matter, I’d prefer to delegate the task of choosing a logo or logos to folks who have experience in PR, communications and graphic design But I don’t know that this is an issue at all right now anyway
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/17/2022 10:53 PM
this is an organization based around decentralization
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we need to apply it as widely as possible
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even for things as important as that.
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I like the coyote with a snake in its mouth idea
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this is an organization based around decentralization
floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/17/2022 10:57 PM
I’ve an idea off this - still the three arrows, but they start going at 12, 3, and 6 o’clock, but all curve down to 4:30 o’clock (edited)
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we’re going down different paths in different manners but we all have the same goal
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Decentralization, sure, but decentralization doesn’t mean that we have to abandon expertise.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/17/2022 11:05 PM
Expertise is good for creation, but decision making of something that will define our movement should be by the members of it. Can you elaborate on the downsides of a popular vote? (edited)
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I like the coyote with a snake in its mouth idea
still suggest the Secretary bird
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Expertise is good for creation, but decision making of something that will define our movement should be by the members of it. Can you elaborate on the downsides of a popular vote? (edited)
Choosing a logo to symbolize an organization is a form of communication. It’s a very specific style of communication, and being effective in it requires understanding how people process visual information and having a good grasp of what existing images mean to the reader. It’s not a skill that everyone is equally good at, and — more importantly — it’s not one that everyone is equally good at evaluating. The collective is just as likely to get this wrong as to get it right. Perhaps more likely. Anyway, like I said, it’s not clear to me that this is an issue at all right now. But I would prefer to leave symbol design to people with demonstrated expertise.
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How does one make a circular image file without the corners?
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How does one make a circular image file without the corners?
if I understand what you mean, by putting a circular image on a transparent background?
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Choosing a logo to symbolize an organization is a form of communication. It’s a very specific style of communication, and being effective in it requires understanding how people process visual information and having a good grasp of what existing images mean to the reader. It’s not a skill that everyone is equally good at, and — more importantly — it’s not one that everyone is equally good at evaluating. The collective is just as likely to get this wrong as to get it right. Perhaps more likely. Anyway, like I said, it’s not clear to me that this is an issue at all right now. But I would prefer to leave symbol design to people with demonstrated expertise.
Here is an elitism scared of the people. People not in school might have drawn something more relevant than what you drew. Elitist. Letting it go, let’s diversity strengths become the organization.
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if I understand what you mean, by putting a circular image on a transparent background?
That would work
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Here is an elitism scared of the people. People not in school might have drawn something more relevant than what you drew. Elitist. Letting it go, let’s diversity strengths become the organization.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/19/2022 4:20 PM
This. I see literally zero harm in allowing everyone to participate in both production and choosing our symbol, as we will both have the capabilities of those who are more skilled, and the more diverse perspectives, skills, and knowledge of the wider community.
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That would work
floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/19/2022 4:21 PM
if it’s on a solid background, I just ensure it’s a separate color, magic wand it and erase.
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I’m trying to badge this edit but with a circle instead of a square file
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/19/2022 8:28 PM
ahhh, no clue about that then. watch for the off-color blotch below the woman’s hand
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Here is an elitism scared of the people. People not in school might have drawn something more relevant than what you drew. Elitist. Letting it go, let’s diversity strengths become the organization.
LessthanLoneWolf 12/21/2022 2:14 AM
How does that make him an elitist? He raised some decent points; no need for name calling.
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something I came up with recently
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I particularly thought defining for others how the public is unskilled a couple ways was an untruth but about anxiety to keep a special club of influence for the special people. It is possible people get the school degree merit badge but less so the skill. Defining to others that a large group of people is incapable feels creepy to me. When it comes to hammering out decisions, inclusion works and thoroughly I’d there’s structured inclusion of all heads. ↙️ ↙️ ↙️ ( the text below is not from me but a copy paste of the text I’m talking about ) (edited)
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I think some people have skill and experience with, say, handling firearms and some people do not. If we were in a group that was making decisions about how firearms should be handled and stored, I would want the people with more expertise at handling firearms to make those decisions. PR is not a life-or-death skill the way firearms handling is, but it is nonetheless a skill that people can learn, and some people are better at than others. I don't consider myself to have this skill. That doesn't mean that I can't learn it. But it does mean that, until I do, I probably shouldn't be making decisions about PR or communications for the group. I don't really see why this is controversial.
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joe hill’s revenge 12/21/2022 12:03 PM
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spacewolf05 12/21/2022 1:09 PM
Idea for a flyer
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Switch monarch to autocrat and you can do a series of bond villain wannabe world dominators.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/21/2022 7:06 PM
lol
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 12/21/2022 7:07 PM
Referencing the Charles II omegachin would be a fun adition
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rathernot123 12/21/2022 11:06 PM
I could probably turn it into A electronic flyer @spacewolf05
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rathernot123 12/21/2022 11:33 PM
Just ping if intrested
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@rathernot123 Great idea. I'll most likley refine the sketch by remaking it digitally and then you can work from there.
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rathernot123 12/22/2022 1:01 AM
I can do digitizing part idk I’m not really creative type
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Mainly modify photos
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rathernot123 12/22/2022 1:08 AM
I have A few ideas but they require pictures fash
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Originally meant for today, but someone else already completed what they needed, so here's my quarter sheet.
Deleted User 12/22/2022 2:32 PM
Do you want credit for use/if so where would you like folx to credit?
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Yes!
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Yes!
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What is the way you'd prefer to be credited?
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You can use Karis Caruso or KASIZAH
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Whichever you prefer
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 12/22/2022 11:18 PM
Can someone make a drive folder or even just a channel here of sticker designs?
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spacewolf05 12/23/2022 1:45 AM
@rathernot123 here ya go
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rathernot123 12/23/2022 1:46 AM
It looks good
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sup, if any group here or elsewhere needs posters/logos/designs/etc done up, I’m avaliable to do some stuff
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/1/2023 3:13 PM
@topaz do you think you could add a rocker to this which says “ American Iron Front”? Sorry for inundating you with requests but I’m planning on slapping a few of these around and I want people to know the org
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I think probably, sure. A rocker underneath the whole she bang?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/1/2023 3:20 PM
Ye!
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American Iron Front rocker over the top. Idaho in a rocker underneath.
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Just make sure they are "attached" to the center circle and not offset.
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joe hill’s revenge 1/1/2023 7:07 PM
What’s a rocker (edited)
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A curved box with lettering usually a radius that suggests it would form a circle around the image in the center. Literally because it resembles rocking chair rockers. (edited)
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What’s a rocker (edited)
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/2/2023 12:01 AM
the section of this which says “advanced EMT” is a rocker, for example
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first example that came to mind lmao
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Is there a preferred storage location where we should supply assets like this? A dropbox or cryptpad or what have you?
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I'm working on the rocker now
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Usually if the lower rocker text is smaller than the upper, the rocker is sized to match the upper. Sometimes the empty space is embellished.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/2/2023 4:19 PM
fuck yeah, thank you very much!!
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Usually if the lower rocker text is smaller than the upper, the rocker is sized to match the upper. Sometimes the empty space is embellished.
good point. I can try to work it that way ("Idaho Chapter" on the bottom maybe?)
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good point. I can try to work it that way ("Idaho Chapter" on the bottom maybe?)
That would work with Idaho... but not for longer name states. I'd just stick with state name and leave the space blank, the border will fill the space enough.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/2/2023 4:45 PM
@Braakinthesaddle Could one of y'all possibly make a channel dedicated to storing these stickers and stuff? Somewhere that they can be put down without discussion hiding them through eons of scrolling.
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@Braakinthesaddle Could one of y'all possibly make a channel dedicated to storing these stickers and stuff? Somewhere that they can be put down without discussion hiding them through eons of scrolling.
Skullmaggot 1/3/2023 1:43 AM
Think a Google Drive will be alright to upload stuff?
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Think a Google Drive will be alright to upload stuff?
Google is a snitch. jussayin
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Worse than discord.
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Skullmaggot 1/3/2023 4:18 AM
Guess cryptpad then
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Guy from mass 1/4/2023 11:38 AM
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Ooh we have one like this somewhere in the flyer folder I think. Similar to an old WWII prop poster
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Millions of unique designs by independent artists. Find your thing.
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But yeah I like the smash the fash one that's a nice design
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the boot, the arrows, the broken fasces -- very good
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Guy from mass 1/4/2023 11:49 AM
I was just bored in class
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I'll properly design it on pc later
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/6/2023 12:30 AM
Idea!
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“They can’t vote for a speaker, Why would they vote for you?” (edited)
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Above and under a republican elephant with the three arrows over it
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If someone could make something up like that, I’ll see if I can find a place to put a few flyers of it downtown this weekend. (edited)
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it’d be even cooler if someone could find a way to put a QR code for the iron front website on it
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sup, if any group here or elsewhere needs posters/logos/designs/etc done up, I’m avaliable to do some stuff
Sorry bout the delay, got any ideas for flyers? Hope it’s not too late 🤣
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I want to flyer bomb my region
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Strategically
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Sorry bout the delay, got any ideas for flyers? Hope it’s not too late 🤣
nothing immediately comes to mind but I’ll start looking for references
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
“They can’t vote for a speaker, Why would they vote for you?” (edited)
floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/8/2023 2:12 AM
this perhaps?
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I made this one a while ago but I’m pretty trash
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You can really stir the pot with anti PPC / CPC stuff too
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Liberals, Tories, PPC, hell even the NDP in some provinces, can all be called out
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when I get my laptop tomorrow, I’ll do up a few designs
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Sweet!
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@horhay Have you seen theeeeese?
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@horhay Have you seen theeeeese?
The red one was my first profile pic on the IG, I like them
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AvoidOblivion 1/11/2023 8:25 AM
Excuse me if this is slightly off-topic, but would anyone be willing to help me design something? I would do it myself, but I am terrible with graphic design. It’s nothing complicated.
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Excuse me if this is slightly off-topic, but would anyone be willing to help me design something? I would do it myself, but I am terrible with graphic design. It’s nothing complicated.
joe hill’s revenge 1/11/2023 11:54 AM
What do u need
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AvoidOblivion 1/11/2023 12:26 PM
I’m looking for the Iron Front logo, specifically like the one attached. I’d like the words “WELL I KNOW WHAT’S RIGHT” wrapped along the top, and “I GOT JUST ONE LIFE” wrapped along the bottom. Looking to sort of pull a Fetterman.
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joe hill’s revenge
What do u need
AvoidOblivion 1/11/2023 5:06 PM
Any thoughts on that?
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Any thoughts on that?
joe hill’s revenge 1/11/2023 5:29 PM
I could draw it
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Quick and dirty
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AvoidOblivion 1/11/2023 5:32 PM
Yeah, like that.
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joe hill’s revenge 1/11/2023 5:32 PM
Is that lyrics,
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?
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AvoidOblivion 1/11/2023 5:33 PM
Yep. From "I Won't Back Down," originally sung by Tom Petty.
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I prefer Johnny Cash's rendition.
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@AvoidOblivion like this? let me know if you want the font or color different
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AvoidOblivion 1/11/2023 7:45 PM
Could the font be just slightly larger? Other than that, it’s great.
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yeah, also it looks a little pixellated, Ill try to fix that
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AvoidOblivion 1/11/2023 7:46 PM
That’s not much of a worry for me.
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joe hill’s revenge 1/11/2023 7:49 PM
Is this fur a hoodie?
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AvoidOblivion 1/11/2023 8:02 PM
A tattoo.
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AvoidOblivion 1/12/2023 7:34 AM
Perfect. Thank you.
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yeah buddy! I've got that song stuck in my head now. Petty was a legend
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If anyone wants to make these kinds of things, it's super easy. Inkscape is a free software similar to Adobe Illustrator. Here's a tutorial on how to make text "rockers" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFFZXgBtNlg
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If anyone wants to make these kinds of things, it's super easy. Inkscape is a free software similar to Adobe Illustrator. Here's a tutorial on how to make text "rockers" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFFZXgBtNlg
AvoidOblivion 1/12/2023 8:09 AM
Thanks. I’ll look into that.
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LessthanLoneWolf 1/14/2023 5:24 PM
I’m trying to make a logo for some posters, but can only do so much in Word. Is there a way to save a word document as a picture?
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I’m trying to make the three arrows, and the words, an image I can use on other things
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You can always export as PDF, and from there convert to image format, but why do you want to save it as an image file specifically?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/14/2023 5:35 PM
PDF is the best way, but i’d just screenshot it and save that
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i think it’s win ctrl shift
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You can always export as PDF, and from there convert to image format, but why do you want to save it as an image file specifically?
LessthanLoneWolf 1/14/2023 5:50 PM
So I can use the arrows, and the definitions, for stickers, etc
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So I can use the arrows, and the definitions, for stickers, etc
If I can suggest you a software to make some graphical designs it would be paint.net (not the actual website, be careful) It is free, as easy to use as Microsoft paint, as powerful as photoshop, and you can use add-ons for more possibilities. (edited)
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Photopea is a good free in-browser Photoshop replacement
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@Steve Mike Put em on a toque, eh?
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@LessthanLoneWolf Canva and Inkscape are good to use if you don't have Adobe (and nobody should have Adobe. Fuck that greedy company)
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What is a toque?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/18/2023 2:14 AM
canadian word for a beanie
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
canadian word for a beanie
Don't they have to have the little ball on top though?
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Gonna get a QR code for the bottom corner
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 1/26/2023 6:47 PM
Looks great!!
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Nice work Horhay
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Thanks! It was a collaboration
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AvoidOblivion 1/26/2023 7:40 PM
Once I can truly get started putting flyers up, I’ll definitely go with that design. It looks great and sends a strong message.
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Sweet! Feel free to reproduce freely
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Skullmaggot 1/27/2023 3:13 AM
Some one-sided business card stuff if people want them.
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Some one-sided business card stuff if people want them.
joe hill’s revenge 1/27/2023 4:32 PM
Put in a QR code
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So the discord link works
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Put in a QR code
Skullmaggot 1/27/2023 5:52 PM
Ah! Yep, I’ll do that tonight.
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Put in a QR code
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@Steve Mike update on business cards, now with QR codes ^^^^^^
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@Steve Mike update on business cards, now with QR codes ^^^^^^
Nice I'll do an update to the Resources page tomorrow, I'll add those and some of the other things posted recently. Lots of good work lately everybody!
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joe hill’s revenge 2/5/2023 12:44 PM
Hey could someone make an Instagram logo for iron front nj
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Whatdo y’all think of my anarchist take on the original IF flag
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I like it
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I think the second one in particular is pretty cool
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 2/7/2023 10:01 AM
I feel the second one should have the arrows in the middle but thats just my opinion
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I think the second one in particular is pretty cool
The first one is the original
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Not sure why my sent images have trash resolution
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Not sure why my sent images have trash resolution
I was skeptical about the color contrast on the white arrows but it turns out extremely well
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Not sure why my sent images have trash resolution
Don't like it, tradition has images or text centered on the triangles... not the center of the flag.
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@horhay I like the second image better than the second version.
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@horhay I like the second image better than the second version.
I thought so too!
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Example... created by folks attempting to create a Kansas City Autonomous Zone back in 20'.
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Oh that’s cool asf
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The "fountain" is the stylized symbol KC Missouri uses for it's logos.
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I like the asymmetrical look personally
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Just made a couple knockoffs for the lulz
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Just made a couple knockoffs for the lulz
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"The south will wise again UWU!!" (edited)
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Just made a couple knockoffs for the lulz
AvoidOblivion 2/8/2023 10:04 AM
The flags of the confused.
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Partially-"decommunized" victory flags... just the most simple edit ever made out of boredom rather than anything serious
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Apparently Yeltsin tried to implement one in 1996
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It was just a red flag with a gold star in the corner. No text. (edited)
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unsurprisingly, no one used it or liked it
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as it turns out, waving a 🇻🇳 variant doesn't really do much to distance yourself from Soviet symbolism
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Looks like someone was inspired by the art
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That's a painted-over version of our early draft of the poster. (edited)
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joe hill’s revenge 2/13/2023 4:36 PM
I like it
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Just replace the US flag with a CSA one
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Just replace the US flag with a CSA one
Naw it works as is.
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Sends the opposite message of our group lol
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Sends the opposite message of our group lol
Not at all... it is important for all citizens to point out the flaws and evil in their own government. Otherwise they condone the actions of that government. And if you condone the actions of the government of the United States of America... you are fascist.
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That would be true if the flag exclusively represented the government
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I mis-phrased that
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I mean that patriotism and patriotic symbolism are core to our group, so having a bayonet through the US flag is mixed messaging. The flag represents the people, the nation as an idea, and the ideals we strive to achieve as well as the government
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Rather than just the government
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If you want to avoid conflating the people with the government you could try replacing the american flag with the great seal, as the seal is still recognizable but isn't a symbol that represents the population at large
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Not at all... it is important for all citizens to point out the flaws and evil in their own government. Otherwise they condone the actions of that government. And if you condone the actions of the government of the United States of America... you are fascist.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/13/2023 8:40 PM
When it comes to flyers however, it can send the wrong message
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It can send a message of being totally anti-American, not simply being critical of it
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I know you and I agree with the former part but it can still be a bit too much for a group like this
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Plus, this is generalization at its worst. There IS much to be opposed to the US government on and about, I'll agree with that much, but generalizing anyone that supports the US government as fascist is not a way an organization makes friends. Because I can guarantee that there are supporters of the Federal government that aren't fascist.
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Use a 🏛️ or Capitol building silhouette (edited)
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or White House
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Or the flag of the GOP
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It can send a message of being totally anti-American, not simply being critical of it
I'm pretty well aware of US History, and the vast majority of the choices made by the Federal Government through it's existence (and of our founders prior to) are pretty fucking atrocious. What it means to be "American" is a lie... a figurative whitewashing of the vile shit we've done through our entire history. And, we've only been walking backward most of my 46 years on this planet. Police are killing more people in extrajudicial murder with Less accountability. Corporations are impoverishing more people, not less. People are dying of totally treatable medical conditions (mostly caused by corporations feeding them poison) because they don't have access to health care. Fascists aren't just celebrities flying to other countries to export the idea or taking white kids aside and teaching them the "others" are the cause of their trouble... they are literally in congress now and openly fascist. These are all features, not side effects. And none of that addresses the literally dozens or hundreds of millions of people our government knowingly killed through slavery and genocide, the land taken from people, the rapes, the murders, the beatings... The wealth of the nation was built if not on slavery alone... then using wage slavery and horrific working conditions. Listen... I served this fucking country... nearly died following it's orders. I lost 6 friends who died following it's orders. I joined because I believed there was redemption to be found in spite of the horror. 26 years after getting out... what I've seen has only proven one thing. The atrocities, the hate, the two party system, it's all a feature... not a byproduct. It's a feature intentionally used to keep the people from uniting to create a better way for themselves. I give a fuck about the people of the US. Not the fucking government. Because they prove time and time again they don't give a fuck about us.
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And The PEOPLE of the US is the America we should be concerned with protecting, and elevating. Not the fucking millionaires in congress or the White House.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/13/2023 9:33 PM
All I'm going to say on this is the same thing I said before: I joined because I am loyal to the idea of America, a land where all are equal and free from tyranny. If the government has ceased being loyal to that idea, than I agree they should be booted out of power. They do not represent what that flag was meant to represent and they should be kicked out. I absolutely refuse to burn down an entire country and the ideals it was meant to represent simply because a few jackasses in suits decided to abuse their positions.
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We're American Iron Front, damn it.
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Ok, but I don't think anyone here was trying to protect the millionaires or the government. The point that a bunch of people above you were saying is that to most americans the american flag represents more than just the government, it also represents the people and america in it's entirety. Making a design that is showing someone attacking the flag will be interpreted by the average passerby as an attack on them, even if they themselves hate the government, because they are included under that flag. Sure, I think a huge portion of what runs america, both the government and the businesses, is rotten to the core, but a flyer is supposed to attract those outside the group, not merely reaffirm the beliefs of those already committed to the cause.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/13/2023 9:37 PM
If the government has ceased holding "...these truths to be self-evident that all men (and women) are created equal", then it is up to us to either make them or remove them from power.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
All I'm going to say on this is the same thing I said before: I joined because I am loyal to the idea of America, a land where all are equal and free from tyranny. If the government has ceased being loyal to that idea, than I agree they should be booted out of power. They do not represent what that flag was meant to represent and they should be kicked out. I absolutely refuse to burn down an entire country and the ideals it was meant to represent simply because a few jackasses in suits decided to abuse their positions.
Never have I ever said anything to the effect of "burn down an entire country" Even if I don't think the "ideals" were ever meant to be pursued and were only ever a means of brainwashing people through clever marketing.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
If the government has ceased holding "...these truths to be self-evident that all men (and women) are created equal", then it is up to us to either make them or remove them from power.
I agree in principle even if I don't hold your belief that the founders ever intended to make good on pursuing those "truths".
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Ok, but I don't think anyone here was trying to protect the millionaires or the government. The point that a bunch of people above you were saying is that to most americans the american flag represents more than just the government, it also represents the people and america in it's entirety. Making a design that is showing someone attacking the flag will be interpreted by the average passerby as an attack on them, even if they themselves hate the government, because they are included under that flag. Sure, I think a huge portion of what runs america, both the government and the businesses, is rotten to the core, but a flyer is supposed to attract those outside the group, not merely reaffirm the beliefs of those already committed to the cause.
We use symbols all the time, their meaning changes as we change... and we find out what they meant as we learn. That symbol is one that meant freedom for white men to profit off poorer white men, women, and slaves without a king taking a portion of it. Our country has done FAR worse to us in the time that flag has flown than King George ever did to the colonists who massacred millions of people. Now I don't go around burning it because I agree it sends the wrong message. I don't go around posting the image that sparked this for the same reasons. But here, among fellow anti-fascists. It's important that we don't delude ourselves in thinking that flag means anything but corporate greed at the expense of anyone who would stand in their way.
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Yes there are people who are still deluded by the propaganda of the state that this is supposed to be a free country. It takes baby steps to spoon feed them into waking the fuck up. But ain't no one here supposed to be that asleep.
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The flag means a lot more than that. It is the purpose of this specific type of anti-fascist group
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We use symbols all the time, their meaning changes as we change... and we find out what they meant as we learn. That symbol is one that meant freedom for white men to profit off poorer white men, women, and slaves without a king taking a portion of it. Our country has done FAR worse to us in the time that flag has flown than King George ever did to the colonists who massacred millions of people. Now I don't go around burning it because I agree it sends the wrong message. I don't go around posting the image that sparked this for the same reasons. But here, among fellow anti-fascists. It's important that we don't delude ourselves in thinking that flag means anything but corporate greed at the expense of anyone who would stand in their way.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/13/2023 10:23 PM
Did you fucking read any of what I just said? If that symbol has been corrupted, then it is up to us to take it back from those who corrupted it and, as MLK said, "make real the promise of democracy.". And did you seriously just say that England AKA: the people that colonized and enslaved half the fucking world didn't do anything as bad as we did?
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But hey, I know nothing because I'm "asleep", whatever the fuck that means.
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Like I said before, the flag represents the people, the nation and the ideals as well. Just because we have not lived up to our ideals yet does not make it evil or hypocritical or whatever else. It is simply what we strive to achieve
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Did you fucking read any of what I just said? If that symbol has been corrupted, then it is up to us to take it back from those who corrupted it and, as MLK said, "make real the promise of democracy.". And did you seriously just say that England AKA: the people that colonized and enslaved half the fucking world didn't do anything as bad as we did?
To the people of the American colonies that rebelled against them... no they didn't do even a quarter of the shit that the US Federal Government has done to the people of the states that came of that rebellion. The most that happened to the colonists was some were pressed into naval service, and a few were killed when a kid got hit by a rock and fired a shot into a crowd that was already violent. Oh but the real sin King George did was demand taxes from the wealthy without providing direct representation... to the wealthy. Absolutely outside of the US they are possibly the greatest example of evil to befall the earth in the form of imperialism. But in the American Colonies about the worst they did was cut into the profits of the wealthy. (Hell the British even treated the native Americans better than the colonists did, ever wonder why many tribes of Native Americans supported the British in both the revolutionary war and the War of 1812?) Don't mistake my pointing out that King George was a relative saint to American Colonists compared to the evils he condoned elsewhere and the evils the colonists and later US Government enacted. (edited)
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Use the flag if you want. In public I'm not going to shit on you for it. But I'm certainly not going to sit here and pretend that it means what you think it means after 4+ decades of witnessing how it represents corpo-fascism.
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And is quickly becoming a flag of christo-fascists as well.
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As far as taking symbols back. About the only thing I can find Buddhists doing with the swastika is raising awareness that it was stolen from them and corrupted. And their symbol started off entirely good. Unlike ours which started off with enslaving women and Africans, and enacting genocide against indigenous people.
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And went on to slaughter tens of thousands of people in Central and South America purely to create regime change that would allow wealthy US profiteers to grow produce to ship to the US using effectively slave labor. And... and... and... and... There literally has not been a point in our history with the exception of WWII (which we were dragged into kicking and screaming like whiny babies, and we created by exporting the concept of fascism to Germany and Italy), when we have actively fought for the ideals we've been duped into believing that flag stands for.
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Unlike the swastika which has thousands of years of history of being meant as a good luck/well being symbol. There is literally more argument for Bhuddhists to take that back than us taking back the US Flag.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 2/13/2023 11:57 PM
Since we do not agree on what the US means, can we at least agree that the principles it was originally founded upon of all being equal and free from tyranny should be upheld?
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Regardless of whether it flies under an old or new banner? (edited)
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy
Since we do not agree on what the US means, can we at least agree that the principles it was originally founded upon of all being equal and free from tyranny should be upheld?
Has there been any doubt as to my position on whether or not people should be equal and free from tyranny? We just disagree on the belief that the country was founded on those principles. I don't believe it was because there is no evidence in action that it was anything more than a fancy line that played well to the masses.
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I do think there were some folks back then who were actually that idealistic... Thomas Paine for one... some of Hamilton's retinue... Maybe even Hamilton and Adams (even if he was a shit father).
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But Adams even wrote about the hypocrisy of the Declaration in letters to his wife... well to be honest Abigail brought it up first in the letters, but he pointed out that going against the rest of the people on such things would be the end of all progress at the convention. So even our founders capitulated to a default of slavery of women and people of color.
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Elijah Grace 2/21/2023 7:35 PM
Hello! A friend designed this and I wanted to get peoples thoughts. 3%er arrows turned into Iron Front arrows.For antifascists who do organizing focused more around Collective Armed work,prepping, ect
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/21/2023 8:01 PM
I like the reappropriation of it (edited)
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threepers are fascist and their iconography comes from a mythologized hypermasculinity so idk about this one
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The symbolism comes from a historical myth, something like "only 3% of colonists rose up against the British" or "only 3% of colonists were armed" iirc
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It looks nice. A little weird on ancom background tho. Try one that's all black background and see how it looks
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Although tbh the red and black isn't too bad. Idk
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I think it's nice but the misalignment of the arrows and the red black diagonal annoys me 😄
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Lanky_Pomegranate530 2/25/2023 3:02 AM
Just made this what do you guys think?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 2/25/2023 4:49 PM
I don’t like comparisons to hitler even if it’s apt. The political moderate, the person we want such a graphic to influence, will scoff and say “That would never happen in America” (edited)
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And then those who do want him in power will be able to say “Look at those antifascist lunatics comparing him to hitler, can you really trust them if they make such wild claims?”
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so I need help for the meeting next week
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I have setup a Belgian Iron Front Facebook page quickly + a link.tree
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and I made these to make some sort of flyer to hand to people that might be protesting there
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It's something like that, front and back
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it's very crude and I need help on how to make it better but I have 0 idea how to, but the basic ideas are there
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it would approximately be the size of a bank card, so that people can easily place it in their wallet
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since it might take time to print, I would like to have it finished by tomorrow since the debate is on thursday and my printing shop told me they would have to send it to the factory because they cant do it themselves on the spot
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Made this one awhile back with the Alt National Forest Service’s rendition of Smokey Bear. Based org that unfortunately fell apart and I got the scan of the bear from. If anyone wants the pic of just Smokey, just ping me.
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I’ve been digging my heels in with some native folks on discord trying to drum up anti fascist action on both sides of the border, what do y’all think of my ancom anti fascist fusion of their symbol (edited)
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I’ve been digging my heels in with some native folks on discord trying to drum up anti fascist action on both sides of the border, what do y’all think of my ancom anti fascist fusion of their symbol (edited)
joe hill’s revenge 3/3/2023 1:47 AM
It looks cool except the top arrow is further away from the bottom one
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joe hill’s revenge
It looks cool except the top arrow is further away from the bottom one
Hmmm you’re right, thanks for pointing that out
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/5/2023 9:48 AM
I found this thumbnail on a meme compilation, have fun with it
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/5/2023 12:14 PM
We're looking at getting a proper graphic design team going, but Skullmaggot is simply too busy to properly manage one. Anyone willing to step up to the plate of managing a graphic design team?
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After I graduate come May i'd definitely be interested in being part of the graphic design team
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/7/2023 1:41 PM
Do we have a list or place of designs for flyers or stickers?
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I really like the “keep your neighborhood fascist free” one
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6L3THAL#0663 3/7/2023 8:27 PM
I mean there's the resources tab on the IFUSA website, but that's the only place I can think of so far
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6L3THAL#0663
I mean there's the resources tab on the IFUSA website, but that's the only place I can think of so far
joe hill’s revenge 3/7/2023 11:53 PM
Just that tbh
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/8/2023 12:02 AM
thanks!
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Do we have a list or place of designs for flyers or stickers?
Skullmaggot 3/8/2023 2:13 AM
You also can post to Discord and then link it on the GitHub wiki, I've found out. A sort of indirect storage. (edited)
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Idea: Snake with body coiled up but head lashing out, and either the teeth, forked tongue or spitting venom stylized into the three arrows
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/13/2023 10:12 AM
could someone make a quick, simple iron front thing you could put on a shirt? I like our current design but it’s a bit too much and i don’t want myself being identified with the AIF name when i wear it
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
could someone make a quick, simple iron front thing you could put on a shirt? I like our current design but it’s a bit too much and i don’t want myself being identified with the AIF name when i wear it
Like what do you want the design to include
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
could someone make a quick, simple iron front thing you could put on a shirt? I like our current design but it’s a bit too much and i don’t want myself being identified with the AIF name when i wear it
I designed my own tattoo. Pretty simple but I still have the original vector graphic that can be resized for print very easily
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Minus the upsidedown cross, obvs
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Can be tweaked, depending on preference, but I think the distressed, rough look works well
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Can be tweaked, depending on preference, but I think the distressed, rough look works well
floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/14/2023 5:08 PM
Oh yeah, I love that.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Oh yeah, I love that.
I just remembered I had the design on my store, waiting to get published. It's up! 🙂 https://honeybadgerapparel.com/products/iron-front-white-unisex-heavy-cotton-tee
The unisex heavy cotton tee is the basic staple of any wardrobe. The specially spun fibers provide a smooth surface for premium printing vividity and sharpness. No side seams mean there are no itchy interruptions under the arms. The shoulders have tape for improved durability. .: 100% cotton (fiber content may vary for
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You'll find a bunch of stuff on there, all my own designs. The Iron Front T-Shirts come in Unisex (regular cut) and "Women's" fit, along with Unisex hoodies, cropped hoodies and badges.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Oh yeah, I love that.
And thanks! I'm glad you like it
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If you like, I can put together a discount for members of this channel and anyone in the network, something like 10% off everything with code "AMERICANIF" ?
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I'll stop the shameless plugs now 😆
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I just remembered I had the design on my store, waiting to get published. It's up! 🙂 https://honeybadgerapparel.com/products/iron-front-white-unisex-heavy-cotton-tee
floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/14/2023 7:23 PM
Got one!
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Got one!
Alright, badass! I'll get the order sent through tonight. If there's anything else you like the look of, let me know and I'll make sure you're looked after
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/14/2023 7:35 PM
Hopefully I’ll get it in time to wear it for the local music festival I’ll be performing at
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Hopefully I’ll get it in time to wear it for the local music festival I’ll be performing at
Awesome! What's the band?
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joe hill’s revenge 3/14/2023 8:28 PM
I have an iron front shirt idk if they make it anymore it’s got a grafity/distressed style
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joe hill’s revenge
I have an iron front shirt idk if they make it anymore it’s got a grafity/distressed style
Nice! Are you looking to get another one printed?
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Awesome! What's the band?
floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/14/2023 8:33 PM
Its a school band! I go to a performing arts high school and graduate this year, every year we get to play at my city’s music festival and it’s awesome.
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That's rad! I missed my chance with music - I got a BTech in Music Technology, decided to get in to Design instead, though I was in a band myself for a few years, just for the shits 'n giggles
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We played a few larger venues but nothing like a festival. I bet that's such a great buzz
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Well your shirt's gone to production @floppunism [BOI, ID]. My best guess is you'll get it this Saturday. Turnaround time is usually 3-5 days 👍
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Nice! Are you looking to get another one printed?
joe hill’s revenge 3/14/2023 9:27 PM
Not unless we start a chapter
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Well your shirt's gone to production @floppunism [BOI, ID]. My best guess is you'll get it this Saturday. Turnaround time is usually 3-5 days 👍
floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/14/2023 9:35 PM
Hell yeah man, thanks! (edited)
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joe hill’s revenge
Not unless we start a chapter
You mean like a local chapter?
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joe hill’s revenge
Not unless we start a chapter
floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/14/2023 9:40 PM
The joy of decentralization is that the only person you need permission from is yourself.
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You mean like a local chapter?
joe hill’s revenge 3/14/2023 9:45 PM
Yea
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
The joy of decentralization is that the only person you need permission from is yourself.
I was gonna say, isn't that kinda not what the Iron Front is about? Lol
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I suppose even saying "American Iron Front" is antithetical to the original cause, but it was founded in Germany, so I get it
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
The joy of decentralization is that the only person you need permission from is yourself.
joe hill’s revenge 3/14/2023 11:56 PM
I’ve done some local activism
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But mostly flyering
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hey guys, i cant @ the graphic design role but ill just put this here so you can see it. In the interest of organizing ourselves, I think we should all make https://cryptpad.fr/ accounts, so we can collaborate on projects more efficiently. I'm in the process of making a schedule spreadsheet to keep track of where we are on designs/whos doing what. skullmaggot suggested I use cryptpad, since it works a bit like google drive but is encrypted
CryptPad: end-to-end encrypted collaboration suite
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/16/2023 12:16 AM
Could someone make a trans version of the iron front flag? Seems like we're focusing a lot on trans issues and it'd be nice. Something like the three arrows with a circle around it, and the circle has the same stripes as the trans pride flag. Maybe have the arrows have the pink, white, and blue of the flag too? No clue if that would look good with only three arrows, though.
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I already have a version of the pride flag that I re-tweaked for my store... https://honeybadgerapparel.com/products/lgbtqia-unisex-heavy-cotton-tee I'll put together something a bit more Iron Front friendly
The unisex heavy cotton tee is the basic staple of any wardrobe. The specially spun fibers provide a smooth surface for premium printing vividity and sharpness. No side seams mean there are no itchy interruptions under the arms. The shoulders have tape for improved durability. .: 100% cotton (fiber content may vary for
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Some options here @floppunism [BOI, ID]
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/16/2023 11:49 AM
All of those go hard AF, But I particularly love the top left
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Same. I prefer fewer bands - looks tidier
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love them, is it possible to send me the project file? I would like to make my own versions of the logo
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Sure! You using Illustrator?
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@floppunism [BOI, ID] - goes without saying these look pretty tasty on various garms... https://honeybadgerapparel.com/search?q=Iron+Front+Trans+Pride&options%5Bprefix%5D=last
T-Shirts, Hoodies, Clothing & Accessories | For Lovers Of Punk, Pop Culture & Subculture. Be The Honey Badger: Live Fierce!
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/16/2023 12:19 PM
Next paycheck Im 100% gonna get some more of your stuff, looks awesome
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Awesome! Well, at some point we have to talk about setting up a central vendor for the American Iron Front group. It'd be nice to see proceeds going directly to the cause. Do we have anyone on board who can print in-house? @Skullmaggot - wanted to copy you in on this in case you know anyone... (edited)
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I'm in talks this week with some investors, and I'm hoping to get setup myself by the end of this year, I just need the DTG equipment and some stock
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FYI - I'm currently running on a dropship model, so there's a few third parties taking a cut which isn't ideal
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hi i’m looking to gather people for a group chat about: -propaganda -psyops -media pushes -recruitment We are looking for people with a skillset in: -graphic design -copywriting // writing -tech (we can train if needed) -people skills // communicators -others (can’t list them all, but likely you would be able to help) please add me as a friend // dm me // respond to this message if you’re interested
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played around with a logo for Libertarians who support the AIF
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thanks @IIT0NE for the file
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really dig the eagle one!
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thanks! that was the hardest one to make haha
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grAvity
played around with a logo for Libertarians who support the AIF
Nice work!
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Awesome! Well, at some point we have to talk about setting up a central vendor for the American Iron Front group. It'd be nice to see proceeds going directly to the cause. Do we have anyone on board who can print in-house? @Skullmaggot - wanted to copy you in on this in case you know anyone... (edited)
Skullmaggot 3/17/2023 1:26 AM
I wanted to see if we can partner up with offcolordecals.com to make a starter kit. I haven't spoken with them at all yet, just looked at their website. They seem amiable. They need money to do anything, so it'll likely sink whoever contributes thousands of dollars for startup, I'm guessing. Althooooooooooooough, what do you have going on? (edited)
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Kattt
hi i’m looking to gather people for a group chat about: -propaganda -psyops -media pushes -recruitment We are looking for people with a skillset in: -graphic design -copywriting // writing -tech (we can train if needed) -people skills // communicators -others (can’t list them all, but likely you would be able to help) please add me as a friend // dm me // respond to this message if you’re interested
Skullmaggot 3/17/2023 1:28 AM
I've given usbt a list of people you can reach out to. You'd also want to check with people in #zine and pay attention to anyone coming through #introductions . I unfortunately don't know psyops or chaos monkey people as much. You could probably check immediately with Revolae and TheAnonymousDew for propaganda.
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Kattt
hi i’m looking to gather people for a group chat about: -propaganda -psyops -media pushes -recruitment We are looking for people with a skillset in: -graphic design -copywriting // writing -tech (we can train if needed) -people skills // communicators -others (can’t list them all, but likely you would be able to help) please add me as a friend // dm me // respond to this message if you’re interested
Skullmaggot 3/17/2023 1:30 AM
Creatives you might be interested in (not all might be active): Just-in Time eurycek ☈ ☈ Revolae Xulff (haven’t spoken with them yet) KASIZAH spacewolf05 bat’koMakhno (photography, haven’t spoken with them yet) Jessi (video editing) franknfurtr2 (inactive?) egaleagle (photography, inactive?)
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Skullmaggot
Creatives you might be interested in (not all might be active): Just-in Time eurycek ☈ ☈ Revolae Xulff (haven’t spoken with them yet) KASIZAH spacewolf05 bat’koMakhno (photography, haven’t spoken with them yet) Jessi (video editing) franknfurtr2 (inactive?) egaleagle (photography, inactive?)
based list ty
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based list ty
Skullmaggot 3/17/2023 1:33 AM
I'm also a graphic designer but I'm spending most of my time organizing. But if you have anything you need that can be done quick, feel free to hit me up.
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Skullmaggot
I'm also a graphic designer but I'm spending most of my time organizing. But if you have anything you need that can be done quick, feel free to hit me up.
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I wanted to see if we can partner up with offcolordecals.com to make a starter kit. I haven't spoken with them at all yet, just looked at their website. They seem amiable. They need money to do anything, so it'll likely sink whoever contributes thousands of dollars for startup, I'm guessing. Althooooooooooooough, what do you have going on? (edited)
I'm in talks with local business advisors at WKU who are pretty confident they can get funding to get me started with print/production equipment and stock. I'll need a large format printer, a vinyl cutter, an embroidery machine, DTG machine and a heat press. If all goes well, I'll be setup to print and produce almost anything we need. Early days yet but watch this space.
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hello!!! since a few of you have access to the graphic design folder in https://cryptpad.fr, I thought I'd start brainstorming projects with y'all in here. there's a group chat in progress, so if you want to join that please send @Kattt a friend request! @IIT0NE and @grAvity have already worked on logos and stuff, which is awesome, so I was thinking our first project while things are getting going could be some fliers to put around various cities? since people in here are all over the place, it would be a good idea to make generic fliers, and also ones that can be edited to include specific calls to action for different places. like having a section that references problems specific to wherever the person printing the flier is. it would be good for anyone who wants to call attention to local legislature, and rep iron front at the same time
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Great idea. I can get some drawn up and proofed. Happy to print from home
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Great idea. I can get some drawn up and proofed. Happy to print from home
awesome! if it's possible to put the files in the cryptopad folder that would be great, so we all have access. at this point i dont think we need the scheduling sheet, since we're starting small
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I'll get to work on something tonight
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In the meantime, here's a 2.5" square sticker...
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Sticky Brand are having a sale right now - 100 x 2.5" square stickers for $19. I'm guessing that's not including shipping & tax though...
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awesome! if it's possible to put the files in the cryptopad folder that would be great, so we all have access. at this point i dont think we need the scheduling sheet, since we're starting small
Skullmaggot 3/17/2023 7:22 PM
I don’t yet know, but I don’t think Cryptpad does image hosting or general files. (I could be completely wrong, I need to try it out.) There should be e2e encrypted image hosting sites but I have not investigated them yet. Google docs might be okay for some collaboration since graphic design can be fairly public anyway. Usually, though, I try to persuade people away from using Google if they’re trying to be secure or simply because people often forget to sign out of their personal emails and then we end up seeing their identities :/.
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played around with a logo for Libertarians who support the AIF
AIF Cuirassier regiment 3/18/2023 9:58 AM
the porkipine one looks unironically adorable
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love it
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also the eagle one looks really cool!!
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Awesome! Is it cool of we add this to our Google Drive of prop files?
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Awesome! Is it cool of we add this to our Google Drive of prop files?
Of course! I meant to do it myself but forgot. Go ahead
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/20/2023 12:18 PM
@IIT0NE shirt’s out for delivery, thanks man! (edited)
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
@IIT0NE shirt’s out for delivery, thanks man! (edited)
That's awesome. Taking a while longer than usual but I'm glad it's on the way. How'd the hearing go?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/20/2023 2:02 PM
Wasn't able to speak, unfortunately. Ran out of time. Surprisingly few people for the bill and many pediatricians and similar experts against it, but it passed nonetheless.
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Went to a protest about it yesterday and a surprising amount of people showed up, got to do a bit of networking for that.
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Wasn't able to speak, unfortunately. Ran out of time. Surprisingly few people for the bill and many pediatricians and similar experts against it, but it passed nonetheless.
Great news! Sorry you didn't get to have your say but it's a good sign that enough people are on the same page
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
Went to a protest about it yesterday and a surprising amount of people showed up, got to do a bit of networking for that.
That's rad! Nice work
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Gotta apologize my end for not being too active. Some personal issues have come up, plus I'm super busy trying to get a business off the ground. Nothing insurmountable, I'll just need some time, then I can sink my teeth into things here
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/20/2023 2:18 PM
Not an issue at all. We're on a bit of a slow burn, this is actually as fast-paced as things have been for a while.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 3/21/2023 1:03 AM
Unfinished Half-assed project I started like 1 hour ago; Its for my reenactment group, but I figured y'all might like it
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking
Unfinished Half-assed project I started like 1 hour ago; Its for my reenactment group, but I figured y'all might like it
bat'koMakhno 3/21/2023 9:27 PM
Keep working on it!
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 3/22/2023 4:23 PM
I’ll probably change the handle back to wood, but I’m now making the Swastika Smashed and I he added a shadow to the text
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looks awesome!
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 3/22/2023 6:23 PM
Thanks
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 3/23/2023 12:44 AM
Getting close to done; just need to finish the hammer decoration
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Got my new printer dialled in nicely with expensive glossy paper, really excited about being able to do flyers now. QR code links to my activism instagram
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 3/27/2023 1:43 PM
I think this is finished
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Allegedly Human 3/27/2023 1:57 PM
that is beautiful!
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that is beautiful!
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 3/27/2023 2:30 PM
Thanks!
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 3/31/2023 8:11 PM
could someone make a shirt design that says “american iron front” with arrows in the Os that is red white and blue or trans colors
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@IIT0NE perhaps
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
@IIT0NE perhaps
Sure! Could you draw me up a quick sketch?
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floppunism [BOI, ID]
could someone make a shirt design that says “american iron front” with arrows in the Os that is red white and blue or trans colors
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 3/31/2023 9:23 PM
I thought of something similar; it was the American Flag with the three bottom white stripes as the arrows extending from it piercing a confederate flag, a Nazi Flag, and some modern authoritarian symbol, and has the words “Sic Semper Tyrannis” one word in each stripe, with the words in blue; the flag would probably have to be at an angle to make it work, but it shouldn’t be too hard
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I thought of something similar; it was the American Flag with the three bottom white stripes as the arrows extending from it piercing a confederate flag, a Nazi Flag, and some modern authoritarian symbol, and has the words “Sic Semper Tyrannis” one word in each stripe, with the words in blue; the flag would probably have to be at an angle to make it work, but it shouldn’t be too hard
DevilTheAutopoet 4/1/2023 1:25 AM
I'd feel like "Sic Semper Tyrannis" might be a bit of mixed messaging there considering it's what John Wilkes Booth yelled when he shot Abraham Lincoln.
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6L3THAL#0663 4/1/2023 3:14 AM
I spent the last hour and a half or so designing the flag of the Virginia chapter, any thoughts?
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Getting close to done; just need to finish the hammer decoration
6L3THAL#0663 4/1/2023 3:15 AM
Also as a Norse Pagan wanting to reclaim the religion from Nazis, this looks fucking fantastic!!
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I'd feel like "Sic Semper Tyrannis" might be a bit of mixed messaging there considering it's what John Wilkes Booth yelled when he shot Abraham Lincoln.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/1/2023 9:44 AM
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Also as a Norse Pagan wanting to reclaim the religion from Nazis, this looks fucking fantastic!!
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/1/2023 9:45 AM
Thanks! Feel free to use the finished on, a bit below, for your own purposes
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I spent the last hour and a half or so designing the flag of the Virginia chapter, any thoughts?
so so based
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6L3THAL#0663
I spent the last hour and a half or so designing the flag of the Virginia chapter, any thoughts?
I don't see what the middle thing is, just swastika and snake
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I love the trident though
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knuckles
I don't see what the middle thing is, just swastika and snake
A bird of some kind.
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knuckles
I don't see what the middle thing is, just swastika and snake
joe hill’s revenge 4/2/2023 5:37 PM
A rat?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/2/2023 6:01 PM
a kiwi?
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/2/2023 6:11 PM
A crab?
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Isn't the snake supposed to be anti authoritarian?
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I guess it's a rat but it kinda looks like it has a beak
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6L3THAL#0663
I spent the last hour and a half or so designing the flag of the Virginia chapter, any thoughts?
Is the woman (I assume) on the flag supposed to be anyone in particular? Like Columbia or Lady Liberty
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It looks badass either way
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/2/2023 6:15 PM
it’s an amazon
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Cool
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Gotta learn my state flags. I usually see the typical seal on a blue field and ignore it cuz there's like 30 of them
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And then 20 unique flags
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Looks like Virginia unlocked the Displacer glove, nice get🤘
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joe hill’s revenge 4/3/2023 2:24 AM
Could someone improve this flyer?
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Skullmaggot 4/3/2023 3:05 AM
Also, we need to update the flyers with QR codes for the current website(s)!
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joe hill’s revenge
Could someone improve this flyer?
Skullmaggot 4/3/2023 3:05 AM
I'm pumping something out for you.
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joe hill’s revenge
Could someone improve this flyer?
Skullmaggot 4/3/2023 3:43 AM
Here you go if it's on short notice, though the QR code goes to the old site.
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DevilTheAutopoet 4/3/2023 11:55 AM
I would maybe change "talking about white supremacy" to "rejecting white supremacy".
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Skullmaggot 4/3/2023 12:26 PM
“Critical Race Theory”>”Analyzing White Supremacy”?
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joe hill’s revenge
Could someone improve this flyer?
Soros backed=jewish conspiracy
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joe hill’s revenge
Could someone improve this flyer?
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/3/2023 1:49 PM
Traditional values they mean violent bigotry
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Here you go if it's on short notice, though the QR code goes to the old site.
joe hill’s revenge 4/3/2023 1:50 PM
thanks!
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“Critical Race Theory”>”Analyzing White Supremacy”?
DevilTheAutopoet 4/3/2023 3:27 PM
What about "Critiquing White Supremacy". I feel like it needs to convey that they're not upset that we're talking about it, they're just upset we're talking about it in a negative light.
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I prefer "calling out abusive assholes"
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What about "Critiquing White Supremacy". I feel like it needs to convey that they're not upset that we're talking about it, they're just upset we're talking about it in a negative light.
Skullmaggot 4/3/2023 4:08 PM
Maybe “Examining”? It depends on the audience. If you’re trying to convince people on the fence, making people feel criticized will push them away towards people who will validate their feelings. People aren’t going to side with the people who are yelling at them or pointing out the flaws they don’t have the capacity to resolve. We ought to use carrots as well as sticks. An argument is not simply about ideas but about how to construct a series of arguments so that the blow of introspection is tolerable.
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Maybe “Examining”? It depends on the audience. If you’re trying to convince people on the fence, making people feel criticized will push them away towards people who will validate their feelings. People aren’t going to side with the people who are yelling at them or pointing out the flaws they don’t have the capacity to resolve. We ought to use carrots as well as sticks. An argument is not simply about ideas but about how to construct a series of arguments so that the blow of introspection is tolerable.
DevilTheAutopoet 4/3/2023 4:34 PM
Ok, but wouldn't the only ones who feel personally criticized by us rejecting or critiquing white supremacy already be white supremacists? Like, if you had put the term "whiteness" instead of "white supremacy" I would see what you mean by that, but in this case I don't think that stepping on eggshells is really necessary.
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Ok, but wouldn't the only ones who feel personally criticized by us rejecting or critiquing white supremacy already be white supremacists? Like, if you had put the term "whiteness" instead of "white supremacy" I would see what you mean by that, but in this case I don't think that stepping on eggshells is really necessary.
Skullmaggot 4/3/2023 6:11 PM
No, you’re right, they would be. But, we do have ex-alt-right people in here who were able to break from the pipeline of radicalism. People are still people, but I’m not stepping on eggshells for their sake. Stopping people requires either understanding how they think in detail to think of arguments to change their minds or organizing to more directly overpower them, which only addresses a problem superficially. If we knew in detail why people are fascist we can change the situation. What are fascist arguments and what are the bases of their beliefs?
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No, you’re right, they would be. But, we do have ex-alt-right people in here who were able to break from the pipeline of radicalism. People are still people, but I’m not stepping on eggshells for their sake. Stopping people requires either understanding how they think in detail to think of arguments to change their minds or organizing to more directly overpower them, which only addresses a problem superficially. If we knew in detail why people are fascist we can change the situation. What are fascist arguments and what are the bases of their beliefs?
DevilTheAutopoet 4/3/2023 6:14 PM
I understand that, but I was moreso taking the flyer as something directed at liberals and moderates. Someone who's already definitively on the right isn't likely to be swayed by a flyer like this. In fact, I can predict a number of bad faith arguments they would make to either reject outright or try to twist what it's saying into an attack on the left. (edited)
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I understand that, but I was moreso taking the flyer as something directed at liberals and moderates. Someone who's already definitively on the right isn't likely to be swayed by a flyer like this. In fact, I can predict a number of bad faith arguments they would make to either reject outright or try to twist what it's saying into an attack on the left. (edited)
Skullmaggot 4/3/2023 7:45 PM
Sure, sure. The language can be redone. I was mostly just pumping out something late last night using the original language of the first flyer. That said, if you want to write up text, I/we can spiff it up with some graphic design.
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I don't see what the middle thing is, just swastika and snake
6L3THAL#0663 4/5/2023 7:10 PM
Just saw this now, but it's the severed head of the snake
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I updated it by shattering the swastika
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AvoidOblivion 4/5/2023 7:20 PM
"Sic semper tyrannis" is a badass motto for a state... but it is a shame the state with that motto has a history with far-Right politicians.
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"Sic semper tyrannis" is a badass motto for a state... but it is a shame the state with that motto has a history with far-Right politicians.
As a resident of that state, very
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"Sic semper tyrannis" is a badass motto for a state... but it is a shame the state with that motto has a history with far-Right politicians.
Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/5/2023 7:24 PM
And that motto is associated with John Wilkes Booth.
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And that motto is associated with John Wilkes Booth.
AvoidOblivion 4/5/2023 7:32 PM
Ironic, considering what he supported.
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 4/5/2023 7:32 PM
Wouldn't be a fascist if they didn't appropriate/ruin something great.
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The fasces, the swastika, neoclassical art and architecture, good uniforms, the goosestep march...
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The fasces is still up in the House or the Senate iirc
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The fasces, the swastika, neoclassical art and architecture, good uniforms, the goosestep march...
DevilTheAutopoet 4/6/2023 12:53 AM
My personal favourite thing fascists somehow managed to co-opt... the word "freedom".
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Like... fucking how?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/6/2023 12:56 AM
work will set you free
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DevilTheAutopoet 4/6/2023 12:57 AM
Oh, and in a similar vein "small government". Because I guess minmaxing with no programs that actually help people in any way combined with absurdly militarized police, a panopticon surveillance state, and a military so bloated they can't even pass a basic fucking audit to save their lives, is somehow "small government". (edited)
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Been trying to make three arrows with the crown replaced by a Russian "Z"
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haven't been able to make it well
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Florida iron front flag, not perfect but a good first one i just whipped up (edited)
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hey ik not all of you are in the propaganda division server, but i dropped a message with some avenues for propaganda in there so i figure ill do the same here if people need inspiration! firstly, we think educational propaganda would be a good place to start, so in those lines we were thinking "it could happen here" type stuff, maybe using parallels between the USA now and pre fascism germany and italy. I have looked into this and there are some very real similarities. it would be important to emphasize what went wrong in those eras, to showcase that we can have a different outcome now. for this we would have to do some research. Another possible angle, though not so directly related to fascism, would be showcasing how our current system isnt working. There are a lot of relatable, prescient examples of that in the current state of healthcare, so that could be a focus. this would be more in line with agitative propaganda. It's also becoming increasingly clear that the most extreme example of modern fascism in america is the ongoing attack on trans rights, and queer rights more broadly. between banning books and healthcare, legal consequences for social transition and a lot more, it's clear that the scapegoat of the modern fascist movement in america is trans people. this should be the focus of a good chunk of our propaganda, and we can cover it from a variety of angles. i just copy/pasted so sorry for the repetition if ur in the other server as well :)
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/9/2023 11:43 AM
If we can find a way to engage people who are more centered than us, maybe; the problem is, we tend to be overly focused on explaining that a lot of our stuff is excessively long and clunky, and just doesn’t engage people
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Or it could end up looking like a right wing Facebook meme format
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But if we can find a way to do it while it’s snappy, then let’s do it
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^^^ good ideas! something similar to political cartoons might work for that. single panel, easy to understand, evocative stuff
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Put up a poster revealing the local “active club” in a spot where they filmed propaganda 😅
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Unfinished Half-assed project I started like 1 hour ago; Its for my reenactment group, but I figured y'all might like it
joe hill’s revenge 4/9/2023 12:55 PM
Hey imma send u a dm
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is there a QR code for the website i can use on posters?
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is there a QR code for the website i can use on posters?
joe hill’s revenge 4/9/2023 1:16 PM
Is the website working yet
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thats how i found the discord
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well if there wasn't a QR code before here's one
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@╣Xan╠ Rotate them arrows to align with the cross lines and you're golden.
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@6L3THAL#0663 I'm liking the logo so far. It suffers in the text however. The black on red is almost illegible because it's not only thin, but changes width. It works on the white lettering because there's more contrast and the letters are larger. You could even go bolder on the white letters, making them thicker. Maybe try shifting the Sic Semper Tyrannis to be thinker, and a sans-serif font. Maybe have Tyrannis on the bottom?
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I made some meh attempts at something
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originally 1000x500 then I increased height to 750
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I started with making just this
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then I experimented with different things and made this, although the lines aren't properly aligned
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I spent hours trying to make arrows and broken swastikas and stuff, trying to find things online, trying to incorporate all three 'enemy symbols' into it... but it never amounted to anything
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The orange lines are just for making it align well
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I honestly wasn't sure what to make originally, like I don't remember what my original plan was, but the US flag wasn't part of it
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I tried my snake idea but I'm not good enough at this for it
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AvoidOblivion 4/9/2023 10:29 PM
It looks good so far.
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something ive been playing with
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What program do you use
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/10/2023 10:44 PM
I recommend Krita; it’s like illustrator, but free, and slightly easier to use
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Thx
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i use photoshop
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getting the cracked version is pretty easy that’s what i did at least
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Inkscape is also a great free alternative. Cracks of Adobe have been increasingly janky and trojaned as time has passed.
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getting the cracked version is pretty easy that’s what i did at least
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/11/2023 8:38 AM
Can you send a crack
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/11/2023 8:40 AM
damn we’re soliciting ass pics in this server now?
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking
Can you send a crack
i just got it off cmacked, i didnt really know what i was doing. i was so suprised it worked lol
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Hey @floppunism [BOI, ID] did you get your shirt OK?
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Hey @floppunism [BOI, ID] did you get your shirt OK?
floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/15/2023 1:57 PM
I did! I love it.
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Looks dope my man! Glad you like it 😎
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joe hill’s revenge 4/15/2023 4:52 PM
Can any of our organizations fantastic graphic designers attend tomorrows general meeting? Date: Sunday 4/16 When: 9 AM PST/12 PM EST (noon) Where: Meeting Room voice chat channel Topics: mutual aid (I got a list of people who seem to have connections, and we can probably put together a network), marketing, networking (National Lawyers Guild?) (edited)
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Not sure if this counts as stealing
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Does anyone here love urban fantasy? Vampires and Werewolfs (and other were creatures) your jam artistically? My wife has an RPG/Novel world called Nightlands, and she needs an artist or two to do some promo art for it. The art will be used in a kickstarter to get funding to allow her to work full time on writing the novels and RPG setting background info. And she'll need even more art for the RPG game book release. (edited)
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Totally willing to negotiate on price for the art. Could offer percentage of kickstarter revenue/book sales profit.
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@Spinner What style of art are they looking for?
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Sketchy pencils? Painterly full color illustrations? If you have images the you like the look of, it could help clarify the expectation and pricing.
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Probably a mix of both kinda showing a work in progress state. Maybe two full color, rest can be sketches, I'll ask her for example images and see what she comes up with.
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@Eightman
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I NEED ANTI AUTHORITATIVE COMMUNST PROPAGANDA ON THE DOUBLE
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Much love to my siblings of anarchy
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Ya Nay Kommunist
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I NEED ANTI AUTHORITATIVE COMMUNST PROPAGANDA ON THE DOUBLE
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/19/2023 9:16 AM
So anti-tankie?
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Maybe a guy shooting a javelin at a tank with a like a propaganda poster of like Stalin Lenin, Mao, that sorta thing
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Like the tank is a cutout of the poster, and the shooter is a cut out of an anarchist flag
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking
So anti-tankie?
yeshh (edited)
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yeshh (edited)
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking
So anti-tankie?
like full on prop
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/25/2023 7:22 PM
So the Monday after next Friday, I will be hosting a meeting to teach people how to make posters and propaganda in Krita. I will be staring at about noo. and going to 2:30pm est
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I’ll be hosting it in the meeting room vc
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Krita is free, so if your interested and want to follow along, pick it up
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an edit of someone else's work (dont know who, but i found it online)
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which in turn is an edit of that original poster from like 1932 iirc
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^ I loved this modernized version
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but the crown isn't really necessary plus four arrows doesn't exactly go well with the whole "three arrows" thing
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it has a credit in the bottom right-hand corner but it's impossible to read
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it has a credit in the bottom right-hand corner but it's impossible to read
AvoidOblivion 4/25/2023 8:51 PM
I believe it reads something like “neoliberallyproject.org.” I can only make out what appears to be “Rom” for their twitter handle.
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Romaniami followed by something else, perhaps.
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/25/2023 9:59 PM
yeah monarchies are not really a thing anymore, the nations that are influenced directly by monarchies are not powerful that either
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Absolute Monarchies: Brunei, eSwatini, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Vatican City State. Mixed Monarchies: Bahrain, Jordan, Kuwait, Liechtenstein, Monaco, Morocco.
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and then there's Thailand which is a weird situation
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and UAE which is the only federation of monarchies in the world
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 4/26/2023 12:05 AM
I thought bhutan was a monarchy too?
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I don't know if it's absolute
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Yeah Bhutan is mixed
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Semi-constitutional
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Good catch
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Bhutan is cool tbh.
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joe hill’s revenge 4/26/2023 1:00 PM
hey can anyone help me turn this zine I'm working on into a nice looking article using graphic design?:
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Bhutan is cool tbh.
AIF Cuirassier regiment 4/26/2023 4:20 PM
Watch out before they pull a Deus-Ex Machina out their asses and become the Thunder Dragon Empore
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So the Monday after next Friday, I will be hosting a meeting to teach people how to make posters and propaganda in Krita. I will be staring at about noo. and going to 2:30pm est
AvoidOblivion 4/26/2023 5:11 PM
Would that be May 1st?
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/26/2023 5:11 PM
maybe, let me check my calender
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Would that be May 1st?
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 4/27/2023 1:06 AM
Monday after, the 8th
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joe hill’s revenge
hey can anyone help me turn this zine I'm working on into a nice looking article using graphic design?:
You put : but nothing after it
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Did you mean to send the article?
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Watch out before they pull a Deus-Ex Machina out their asses and become the Thunder Dragon Empore
Bhutan conquering Tibet, Sikkim and Arunachal Pradesh
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joe hill’s revenge 4/27/2023 10:04 AM
I’ll dm you
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If you can help
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joe hill’s revenge 4/27/2023 11:50 AM
So what I'm working on is a short zine about why trump should be brought to justice quickly. Its currently been written, I'm happy with the text but before I publish it; I need to make sure the visuals are on point. Currently, the only visuals I know I want to include would be on page 2, but I want the whole thing to include visuals. Here is the text and the zine layout: zine layout (I know the top is upside down): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IJVyE4aDR6nGwo8tcwEmphRDT7jFSRBv/edit#heading=h.gjdgxs zine pages for editing: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pF6tmX5Q-PqAkHf1BO4ew5KkLxM7htQQ87rISTbNoQc/edit
TDT: 1: America is a country that prides itself on its values of justice and equality, yet the top 1% continues to be held unaccountable for their crimes by the legal system. In a truly fair and just society, former President Donald Trump would be incarcerated. Trump has currently been charged...
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joe hill’s revenge 4/27/2023 12:16 PM
@OPRacoon helped write the text
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Public Meeting Date: Sunday 4/30 When: 9 AM PST/12 PM EST (noon) Where: Meeting Room voice chat channel Topics: TBA
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joe hill’s revenge
So what I'm working on is a short zine about why trump should be brought to justice quickly. Its currently been written, I'm happy with the text but before I publish it; I need to make sure the visuals are on point. Currently, the only visuals I know I want to include would be on page 2, but I want the whole thing to include visuals. Here is the text and the zine layout: zine layout (I know the top is upside down): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IJVyE4aDR6nGwo8tcwEmphRDT7jFSRBv/edit#heading=h.gjdgxs zine pages for editing: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pF6tmX5Q-PqAkHf1BO4ew5KkLxM7htQQ87rISTbNoQc/edit
Skullmaggot 4/29/2023 1:42 AM
What do you mean by "on point?" Would you have any examples of other people's layouts because it's relatively simple to emulate a layout rather than come up with one.
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Skullmaggot 4/29/2023 2:21 AM
@IIT0NE Heya! If you still need funding for sticker production, would you have something anonymous like CashApp where we can send you money?
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What do you mean by "on point?" Would you have any examples of other people's layouts because it's relatively simple to emulate a layout rather than come up with one.
joe hill’s revenge 4/29/2023 2:33 AM
I do have examples
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I can share them tomorrow
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I can share them tomorrow
Skullmaggot 4/29/2023 2:33 AM
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Finally finished this piece: 14 x 17, sharpie and colored pencil.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/8/2023 8:53 PM
Have we put any thought into a formalized AIF logo? Like something a little more America-Specific than just a plain Three Arrows? I think we ought to have like a formalized logo if we’re going to establish ourselves as a formal group, something we can stick on patches and shit to let people know at a glance at protests and events that We’re the Good Guys™️
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If we do have a formal symbol, please correct me and point it out to me
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My thoughts is that we should have our own symbol, and we should be collaborating across borders, and each nations individual group should have their own so we can recognize each other across borders
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/8/2023 9:06 PM
I concur, and I want to have some significant change in the symbol enough that it can be easily recognized as more than simply the three arrows
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/8/2023 9:07 PM
Ngl, the Version In your food is pretty solid
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Maybe swap out the text for like, idk, just leave it blank? Maybe some more stars or a white stripe?
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I like the Red White and blue; it helped attract me as a more center left Soc-Dem/Dem-Soc (not super sure where I fall) who likes Biden feel more comfortable joining in, and made it more appealing to me. I think a good way to drive recruitment might be to moderate our language and outward appearance to bait in libs and Dems who are becoming more and more upset with the right wing bullshit and want a faster and more direct way to fight it
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I like the Red White and blue; it helped attract me as a more center left Soc-Dem/Dem-Soc (not super sure where I fall) who likes Biden feel more comfortable joining in, and made it more appealing to me. I think a good way to drive recruitment might be to moderate our language and outward appearance to bait in libs and Dems who are becoming more and more upset with the right wing bullshit and want a faster and more direct way to fight it
floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/8/2023 9:22 PM
Oh yeah, we’ve just got a strike a balance. The exact same thing almost drove me away thinking it was gonna be a very liberal thing, but I took my chances anyways.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/8/2023 9:26 PM
Tbf, we really should be trying to recruit libs. Even if we can’t radicalize them, they’re going to at least be Allies, and we all have pretty different economic and political ideas here ourselves, so those differences don’t matter imo
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but yes, I agree
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although, there are a couple of libs here
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/8/2023 9:29 PM
I think we need more
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Plus, it would force us to explain our positions better to people who may not have read up on certain types of history and literature
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And to better defend our position’s against people who maybe more hesitant or against it, though less aggressively
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don't use radicalize
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/8/2023 9:32 PM
I mean that term in the sense of Going from Liberal to Dem-Soc/Commie/Anarchist
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But you have a point
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radicalize will get us on a watchlist
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even sarcastically
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better to inform or educate
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/8/2023 9:36 PM
True
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“Leftify” perhaps (edited)
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Or at least ally with
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Have we put any thought into a formalized AIF logo? Like something a little more America-Specific than just a plain Three Arrows? I think we ought to have like a formalized logo if we’re going to establish ourselves as a formal group, something we can stick on patches and shit to let people know at a glance at protests and events that We’re the Good Guys™️
joe hill’s revenge 5/8/2023 9:55 PM
Maybe we could have a contest with a small cash prize
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/8/2023 9:55 PM
Sounds like not a bad idea
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/8/2023 10:03 PM
Maybe we ask for like a 1-5 dollar donation for the prize? Basically everyone entering puts a set small amount into the pot, and the winner gets it
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don't use radicalize
I think this is a really important point
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We are not radicals
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We’re fighting against extremism and radicalization on the right, and if we want to appeal to a broad antifascist coalition we can’t be seen as “just as bad but on the left”
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/9/2023 5:02 PM
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There is nothing radical about believing people should be free from being terrorized or killed by fascists and acting to stop it. The majority of the world united against that once upon a time.
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If our goal is to get as many people as we can to join in the fight against authoritarianism it might not be the best idea to suggest we are all anarchist or promote the idea people who join generally become more left. Maybe I’m bias because I’m not a fan of anarchy but to me the message “we oppose authoritarianism” is a lot easier to get behind than “we support X or Y ideology” I also think using the word “authoritarian” is a better and broader term than “fascism” even though we are against both
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If our goal is to get as many people as we can to join in the fight against authoritarianism it might not be the best idea to suggest we are all anarchist or promote the idea people who join generally become more left. Maybe I’m bias because I’m not a fan of anarchy but to me the message “we oppose authoritarianism” is a lot easier to get behind than “we support X or Y ideology” I also think using the word “authoritarian” is a better and broader term than “fascism” even though we are against both
joe hill’s revenge 5/12/2023 9:45 PM
I think we are more of a United front not a radicalizing org
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Our goal is to accomplish our shared goals, not turn people into libertarian socialists
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I think we are more of a United front not a radicalizing org
yea, exactly my point
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joe hill’s revenge 5/12/2023 9:46 PM
Except in the sense that libertarian socialists members win debates in the org and convince individuals to their side. The reverse can also happen
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Maybe in the future we will have internal caucuses and factions
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If our goal is to get as many people as we can to join in the fight against authoritarianism it might not be the best idea to suggest we are all anarchist or promote the idea people who join generally become more left. Maybe I’m bias because I’m not a fan of anarchy but to me the message “we oppose authoritarianism” is a lot easier to get behind than “we support X or Y ideology” I also think using the word “authoritarian” is a better and broader term than “fascism” even though we are against both
That being said. There is nothing at all radical about anarchist ideals... particularly egalitarian resource sharing. You can literally just quote Christ's sermons.
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To each their own ig
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If our goal is to get as many people as we can to join in the fight against authoritarianism it might not be the best idea to suggest we are all anarchist or promote the idea people who join generally become more left. Maybe I’m bias because I’m not a fan of anarchy but to me the message “we oppose authoritarianism” is a lot easier to get behind than “we support X or Y ideology” I also think using the word “authoritarian” is a better and broader term than “fascism” even though we are against both
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/15/2023 12:21 PM
I’m also not an anarchist, so it’s also not accurate to say so either, since a lot of us are either commies or Dem-Socs or Social Democrats. Also, hard agree with using Authoritarianism. It doesn’t matter what type of authoritarianism, we oppose it; Facism is just the biggest threat rn
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AvoidOblivion 5/15/2023 12:29 PM
The Three Arrows generally stand for anti-authoritarianism: Anti-Fascism, Anti-Communism (Specifically authcom), and Anti-x. The third varies a lot. One that I often have seen is Anti-Monarchy.
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joe hill’s revenge 5/15/2023 12:43 PM
Painted this using stencils on a garbage bag
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The Three Arrows generally stand for anti-authoritarianism: Anti-Fascism, Anti-Communism (Specifically authcom), and Anti-x. The third varies a lot. One that I often have seen is Anti-Monarchy.
floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/15/2023 12:54 PM
Anti-Reaction
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Painted this using stencils on a garbage bag
AvoidOblivion 5/15/2023 12:54 PM
What is 161?
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/15/2023 12:57 PM
AFA = 161
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Anti Fascist Action
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AvoidOblivion 5/15/2023 12:57 PM
Ok. Code.
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floppunism [BOI, ID] 5/15/2023 12:58 PM
ACA / Anti Communist Action is 131 and why it’s used by nazis
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Painted this using stencils on a garbage bag
Dr_Diskette 5/16/2023 9:42 AM
Sick af
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I’m also not an anarchist, so it’s also not accurate to say so either, since a lot of us are either commies or Dem-Socs or Social Democrats. Also, hard agree with using Authoritarianism. It doesn’t matter what type of authoritarianism, we oppose it; Facism is just the biggest threat rn
There are Authoritarian regimes all around the world that are not fascist that exist today and more are falling. Hungary has already fallen head first into it. (edited)
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There are Authoritarian regimes all around the world that are not fascist that exist today and more are falling. Hungary has already fallen head first into it. (edited)
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/16/2023 7:50 PM
And we need to support the democratic movements in these place to the best of our ability
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joe hill’s revenge 5/19/2023 2:01 PM
Could someone make a poster that says “being woke is good”
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Could someone make a poster that says “being woke is good”
color scheme in mind?
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joe hill’s revenge
Could someone make a poster that says “being woke is good”
this is a good start
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@joe hill’s revenge this is the poster format but lmk what it needs
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/20/2023 9:32 AM
Be woke or be broke
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Be woke or be broke
yo
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Realitywarp 5/21/2023 3:21 PM
Can someone whip up a version of this flyer suitable for printing on 11x17 (ledger) paper? I have a large format printer and want to make it BIGGER without sacrificing quality
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Can someone whip up a version of this flyer suitable for printing on 11x17 (ledger) paper? I have a large format printer and want to make it BIGGER without sacrificing quality
AvoidOblivion 5/21/2023 4:16 PM
Scroll through the “Flyers” subsection. There is one there. Hopefully that is suitable. https://www.ironfrontusa.org/resources
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Scroll through the “Flyers” subsection. There is one there. Hopefully that is suitable. https://www.ironfrontusa.org/resources
Realitywarp 5/21/2023 6:06 PM
I did but it's sized for 8.5x11 and looks blown out when printed at 11*17
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Gotta use them sweet, sweet vectors. I might be able to do something tomorrow.
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joe hill’s revenge 5/27/2023 5:28 PM
Can anyone make a flyer using these lyrics from the song Lincoln and Liberty Too Success to the old-fashioned doctrine That men are created all free And down with the power of the despot Wherever his stronghold may be!
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 5/31/2023 10:39 PM
I thought of a potential pro-Nato Propaganda poster
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Lemme whip it up
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Put this together last night. It should fit nicely on shipping labels so you can print your own
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I'll also make variations of it that say "Patriot Front NOT Welcome" etc
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 6/1/2023 4:31 PM
I'm making some pro-NATO propaganda, and I have a few ideas for punchy text, tell me which y'all think is best 1. Together We Stand, Together We Fight 2. Thirty One (or 31) Stand United 3. Tyrants Will Perish, We Shall Endure 4. Together As One/United As One 5. One For All, All For One 6. In Peace, There Is Strength
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Another option: No One Fights Alone
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3 and 5 go hard and fit NATO's goal
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ditto 6
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 6/1/2023 5:53 PM
This is my Test so far
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Repost them where ever you want or print them off and use as you see fit
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 6/1/2023 9:01 PM
More NATO propaganda underway
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40% of Cops 6/1/2023 9:10 PM
What's the symbol for? I've think this is the one I've seen someone call fascist.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 6/1/2023 9:26 PM
It’s NATO, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization
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40% of Cops 6/1/2023 9:30 PM
Oh, so that's why they were calling it fash lol
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I was under the impression it was some white supremacist shit
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 6/1/2023 9:31 PM
nope
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Oh, so that's why they were calling it fash lol
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 6/1/2023 9:31 PM
Probably a Vatnik or tankie
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40% of Cops 6/1/2023 9:31 PM
Some Romanian "leftist" account that proceeded to say a bunch of transphobic shit
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 6/1/2023 9:32 PM
yep
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@40% of Cops Nato is a military treaty who's job it is to make sure Russia don't Russia and invade its neighbors. It also kinda helps with preventing future world wars at the moment In fact, if someone calls Nato a fascist, they're probably a tankie, a right wing idiot, or a Russian of courst, those three aren't always necessarily exclusive in some combination.
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joe hill’s revenge 6/2/2023 3:44 PM
I don’t agree with any of this
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 6/2/2023 4:05 PM
NATO is objectively the best foreign policy decision the US Government made during the Cold War
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That and Carter Embargoing South Africa
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Yup
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And As the Ukrainians can attest, NATO is fucking important
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NATO been helping them indirectly with armaments and raw battle data without setting a foot because Ukraine is right the fuck next door to Poland
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And As the Ukrainians can attest, NATO is fucking important
joe hill’s revenge 6/2/2023 6:05 PM
If nato didn’t exist the Ukraine war wouldn’t have happened and putin wouldn’t dominate Russia. The real threat of American aggression keeps putin in power
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AvoidOblivion 6/2/2023 6:17 PM
I’m starting to hear Tankie Talk.
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Or more realistically Putin would be invading Germany right now if there was No Nato. Nato only exist because of Russia's very real history of invading and forcibly colonizing its neighbors
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Or more realistically Putin would be invading Germany right now if there was No Nato. Nato only exist because of Russia's very real history of invading and forcibly colonizing its neighbors
AvoidOblivion 6/2/2023 6:18 PM
Exactly this. NATO was formed in response to the Soviet Union and the threat it posed to Europe and the US.
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I’m starting to hear Tankie Talk.
joe hill’s revenge 6/2/2023 6:18 PM
I’ll debate anyone on this topic in Vc but imma limit my comments via text
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AvoidOblivion 6/2/2023 6:19 PM
I’m not able to VC right now, and am also not in the mood to do so.
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Can't VC. Live in a household of multiple people and no privacy
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Can't VC. Live in a household of multiple people and no privacy
AvoidOblivion 6/2/2023 6:21 PM
Same here.
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joe hill’s revenge
If nato didn’t exist the Ukraine war wouldn’t have happened and putin wouldn’t dominate Russia. The real threat of American aggression keeps putin in power
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 6/2/2023 9:39 PM
No; Putin got into power because Boris Yeltsin was a drunk who allowed corruption to fester, and lost 2 wars. Most of the NATO expansion happened after Putin, with the ones who joined before hand were all in Central Europe. Putin portrayed himself as a sober capable strongman who would fight corruption. Remember, NATO had made moves to court Russia before 2006, though it fell through.
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More over, NATO is STRICTLY defensive, and it does not do anything unless a member is attacked first. If America wanted to slug it out with Russia, and attacked first, then NATO would not trigger Article 5
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Besides, you don’t get a country threatening to build nukes if they don’t get in if they don’t feel like there is a legitimate danger
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On top of all of this, the idea of getting Russia to join nato was a very real concept in the early 2000s, but as Yeltsin pointed out, the average Russian would find it unacceptable due to the perceived humiliation of the fall of the Soviet Union
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 6/2/2023 10:05 PM
Yes, Russia perceived NATO expansion as a threat, but as two different kinds of threats. Those in power saw it as a threat to their ambitions in Eastern Europe, and they sell it to the Russian people as a threat to them, which is is not, because 1. Prior to the invasion, Russia only had 3 Borders with NATO states, all very Defensible (Norway, the Baltics, and Kaliningrad) 2. Russia has Nuclear weapons, so land borders are meaningless anyway 3. Only Poland had more than a token American force, and even then only with short range Artillery and armor 4. NATO is purely defensive and requires a first strike on a member state to trigger. But the Russian people were sold this to justify the bloated expenditure on the military at a time when the economy was floundering, and the authoritarian crackdown on dissent internally. The Military was purly for show as well, as corruption was allowed to shift into turbo-corruption, enriching himself and his cronies, while gutting the fighting capacity, and crippling its ability to actually make new equipment (T-14, SU-57/75, AK-12, etc, hence why they’re still using soviet hand-me-downs and upgrades of such, but at this point the average Russian feels unable and uninteresting it doing anything about it, while Putin has cemented himself into a position built on hundreds of years of authoritarianism and corruption
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 6/3/2023 1:31 PM
Fascists don’t need a real threat, just a scapegoat, and that’s what nato is for Russian imperialism
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 6/4/2023 12:27 AM
that's the beauty of politics, blame your own faults on something and everyone falls for it
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by beauty i mean horror of course
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 6/4/2023 1:32 AM
Yep
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6L3THAL#0663 6/4/2023 9:58 PM
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AvoidOblivion 6/4/2023 9:59 PM
Looks great.
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6L3THAL#0663 6/4/2023 9:59 PM
Thank you!
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joe hill’s revenge 6/4/2023 11:17 PM
FIRE!
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40% of Cops 6/4/2023 11:48 PM
Hell yeah
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NJP?
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NJP?
joe hill’s revenge 6/5/2023 12:07 AM
National Justice party
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40% of Cops 6/5/2023 12:12 AM
Never heard of them, I'll do some googlin
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Never heard of them, I'll do some googlin
joe hill’s revenge 6/5/2023 12:34 AM
Post what u find we are doing research
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6L3THAL#0663 6/5/2023 1:27 AM
The National Justice Party is a Neo-Nazi organization created by Mike Peinovich of The Right Stuff in 2020.
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Also thank you Ian!
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joe hill’s revenge 6/5/2023 12:18 PM
Could someone turn this into@a poster: With pride month just around the corner and the rise of hatred, ignorance, and violence towards the LGBTQ+ community, it is important for those that go to rallies to film protestors. With Matt Walsh's ominous and vague threat of being excited for pride month and death threats towards Target's employees, we can't take any chances. It's important to get to the rallies and parades early and find where they park their trucks. Catch their faces and license plates while they're gearing up in their Walmart body armor. A good photo or video is the best weapon to wield against people like the Proud Boys, Patriot Front, Three Percenters, those neo nazis in red shirts harassing drag shows, and many others. Don't allow them to hide their faces from the country. Their communities deserve to know and identify the faces of evil among them.
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So,I live in FL and ive been thinking about printing up a bunch of these yard signs and sticking them up all over town.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 6/8/2023 10:41 AM
Stick them up in people with pro-DeSantis yard signs
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I like that idea but I'm worried about psychos shooting me for trespassing. Lol
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I was thinking high traffic areas. Major intersections. Anywhere I know they'll be seen. This is actually just kind of a crude idea I slapped together. I'd probably put a little more work into the finished product. I just wanted to see what you folks thought. Or even if it was a good idea to begin with.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 6/8/2023 11:05 AM
It’s kinda brilliant
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Thank you. I really appreciate that. I feel like a visual similar to this would probably cause casual supporters to examine their beliefs.
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Or at lest their choices
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joe hill’s revenge 6/8/2023 12:46 PM
I mean they did endorse him Florida national socialist group supports him
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I like that idea but I'm worried about psychos shooting me for trespassing. Lol
to be fair, Florida's gun laws are so loose, you could take advantage of them as a deterrent (which related, even in public spaces, you should definitely have some arms on you in the hell state of Florida)
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to be fair, Florida's gun laws are so loose, you could take advantage of them as a deterrent (which related, even in public spaces, you should definitely have some arms on you in the hell state of Florida)
I have a CCW, I'm just more interested in making a broader public statement with these signs than a targeted one.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 6/8/2023 7:10 PM
Weird request, but does anyone think they could make an Atun Shei Films Chad-Jak?
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I have a meme idea
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 6/11/2023 2:49 AM
Desantis has the Nazi vote On him the squirming fascists dote On this we frown So take him down With a good punch in the scrote
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Stolas_of_the_Stars 6/11/2023 11:00 PM
Personally, I think we need to keep pushing pudding hands or meatball.
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Not sure if this counts as stealing
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I'll also make variations of it that say "Patriot Front NOT Welcome" etc
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As promised
joe hill’s revenge 6/14/2023 12:29 AM
Can u make a generic fascists/racists not welcome? (edited)
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joe hill’s revenge 6/14/2023 12:30 AM
Could u put the text on top? It’s hard to read?
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Also it looks a little fash
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Could u put the text on top? It’s hard to read?
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k
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joe hill’s revenge 6/14/2023 12:36 AM
That’s cool, but maybe include something to clarify we aren’t saying we r the Nazis and we endorse desantis?
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That’s cool, but maybe include something to clarify we aren’t saying we r the Nazis and we endorse desantis?
Skullmaggot 6/14/2023 12:56 AM
DeathSantis has the nazi vote?
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That’s cool, but maybe include something to clarify we aren’t saying we r the Nazis and we endorse desantis?
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DeathSantis has the nazi vote?
joe hill’s revenge 6/14/2023 12:38 PM
It could be seen as being Nazis saying they like desantis, maybe include something like “don’t vote for him”
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I’m also leery of anything with Nazi imagery (edited)
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It’s good as a shitpost
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joe hill’s revenge 6/14/2023 3:27 PM
@Eazy8 Antifa Viking @Skullmaggot could one of you turn this into a flyer? With pride month just around the corner and the rise of hatred, and violence towards the LGBTQ+ community, it is important for those that go to rallies to film anti lgbt protesters. With Matt Walsh's ominous and vague threat of being excited for pride month and death threats towards Target's employees, we can't take any chances. Scout social media in the days leading up to the event for any potential threats, and contact event organizers about past threats (if any) It's important to get to the rallies and parades early find where the fascists park Catch their faces and license plates while they set up A good photo or video is the best weapon against any violent group Confrontations should be deescalated quickly and recorded, but any video of violence shouldn’t be shared with the police or posted to unsecure platforms (no matter how much you think it makes you look like you're in the right!) If anyone draws a weapon, back up and yell “he’s got a weapon.” Do not engage with violent individuals
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@Eazy8 Antifa Viking @Skullmaggot could one of you turn this into a flyer? With pride month just around the corner and the rise of hatred, and violence towards the LGBTQ+ community, it is important for those that go to rallies to film anti lgbt protesters. With Matt Walsh's ominous and vague threat of being excited for pride month and death threats towards Target's employees, we can't take any chances. Scout social media in the days leading up to the event for any potential threats, and contact event organizers about past threats (if any) It's important to get to the rallies and parades early find where the fascists park Catch their faces and license plates while they set up A good photo or video is the best weapon against any violent group Confrontations should be deescalated quickly and recorded, but any video of violence shouldn’t be shared with the police or posted to unsecure platforms (no matter how much you think it makes you look like you're in the right!) If anyone draws a weapon, back up and yell “he’s got a weapon.” Do not engage with violent individuals
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 6/14/2023 3:29 PM
Like, print that text on a flyer?
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joe hill’s revenge 6/14/2023 3:30 PM
yes
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 6/14/2023 3:30 PM
K, I’ve got an idea, let me put it together when I get home
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Skullmaggot 6/15/2023 2:54 AM
How 'bout this? (edited)
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joe hill’s revenge 6/15/2023 11:28 AM
Love it
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@Eazy8 Antifa Viking @Skullmaggot could one of you turn this into a flyer? With pride month just around the corner and the rise of hatred, and violence towards the LGBTQ+ community, it is important for those that go to rallies to film anti lgbt protesters. With Matt Walsh's ominous and vague threat of being excited for pride month and death threats towards Target's employees, we can't take any chances. Scout social media in the days leading up to the event for any potential threats, and contact event organizers about past threats (if any) It's important to get to the rallies and parades early find where the fascists park Catch their faces and license plates while they set up A good photo or video is the best weapon against any violent group Confrontations should be deescalated quickly and recorded, but any video of violence shouldn’t be shared with the police or posted to unsecure platforms (no matter how much you think it makes you look like you're in the right!) If anyone draws a weapon, back up and yell “he’s got a weapon.” Do not engage with violent individuals
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 6/15/2023 2:06 PM
So I’m thinking for this, we have a black background, and we have the text set to a rainbow pattern, for pride and all, and we have something like “PSA from the American Iron Front” or “Brought to You by the American Iron Front” or “Safety Advice from the American Iron Front” or similar, and we have our little QR. code in the bottom corner
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@Eazy8 Antifa Viking Canva made that ready for me to do on the Rochester Lookbook.
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By "that", i mean adding qr codes easily.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 6/17/2023 1:35 AM
@joe hill’s revenge thoughts on this so far
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 6/17/2023 2:08 AM
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I like the massage. The text and color have a "Graphic Design Is My Passion" feel, though. XD If anything is going to print, having a solid black background is usually not the best idea, because it is costly. Instead of any rainbow colors, maybe select the specific colors on the pride flag? If I have time, I might be able to mess with it on Tuesday.
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joe hill’s revenge 6/20/2023 2:14 PM
How to help fight fascism! Share info Spread this with everyone you know. Learn via the links below and other independent sources of information. Speak out Stand up when you hear hateful ideas, and demand that politicians address systemic injustices! Protest against peddlers of bigoted and harm...
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@Eightman @Eazy8 Antifa Viking could u make this into a flyer?
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 6/20/2023 2:26 PM
Let me see what I can do
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking
Let me see what I can do
joe hill’s revenge 6/20/2023 2:27 PM
Dope
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking
Let me see what I can do
joe hill’s revenge 6/20/2023 2:31 PM
Actually let me edit first
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 6/20/2023 2:36 PM
I was about to ask if I may cut down a bit? It’s rather wordy
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Propaganda needs to be snappy and eye catching; if we can shorten it down, it might be more effective
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I was about to ask if I may cut down a bit? It’s rather wordy
joe hill’s revenge 6/20/2023 3:17 PM
Its a response to a fascist flyer that's pretty word itself
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 6/20/2023 3:38 PM
Gotcha
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joe hill’s revenge 6/20/2023 3:39 PM
It’s more for sticking under car windshields so I think it can afford to be wordier
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6L3THAL#0663 6/22/2023 6:07 PM
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We should also have a list of fash active clubs for our gym attending folk
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6L3THAL#0663 6/22/2023 7:26 PM
Agreed, if you could send me a list of them, I would really appreciate it. I only know a couple
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:)
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Can someone make an ancom/ansynd Nebraska flag? K thx
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joe hill’s revenge 6/26/2023 6:59 PM
Made by a comrade
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joe hill’s revenge 6/26/2023 8:15 PM
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Here's a question: what separates white supremacists from neonazis? I'm trying to pin down a good delineation, but I know there's a ton of overlap.
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Here's a question: what separates white supremacists from neonazis? I'm trying to pin down a good delineation, but I know there's a ton of overlap.
AvoidOblivion 6/27/2023 4:01 PM
That is one I have been wondering for a while. I think the key difference is their beliefs on what to do with people who don’t fit into their narrow worldview: enslave and oppress, or exterminate?
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Here's a question: what separates white supremacists from neonazis? I'm trying to pin down a good delineation, but I know there's a ton of overlap.
Neo-nazis are a type of white supremacist. 'National-socialism' is one specific breed of something that comes in many forms (edited)
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Like a squares and rectangles type thing
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for ex: Before the '60s (iirc) the US neonazi movt and the Ku Klux Klan were two distinct and separate movements (edited)
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 6/28/2023 6:43 PM
Neo-Nazis specifically want a form of authoritarian dictatorship, while WS don’t always want a full on Dictatorship, they only want authoritarianism for everyone they don’t like. In addition, NNs are often much more broad in their bigotry, while WS might be willing to tolerate gay or Jewish white people. NNs also typically have a “Tier system” for their definition of white people, while most WS generally aren’t that complicated about it, with some exceptions
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Basically, Neo-Nazis are generally have more complex beliefs, and more strongly held anti-democratic views
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joe hill’s revenge 6/28/2023 8:06 PM
Some wns might identify with American and hate Nazis because of ww2 (less true now)
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I’d say wns might also be slightly stupider on average and cruder
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Most neo Nazis in America hide their nazism anc pretend to “just” be wns (pf for example)
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MisterStompy 6/29/2023 3:05 PM
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 6/29/2023 9:53 PM
Holy shit that’s based
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I’ve been awol for some time but have some fun stuff going on
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40% of Cops 7/3/2023 4:02 PM
Baaed
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I'm curious if there's a particular group or state that might use that logo?
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40% of Cops
I'm curious if there's a particular group or state that might use that logo?
Braakinthesaddle 7/4/2023 3:28 AM
If you switched out Wild West with Bluegrass, could be good for Kentucky. In this iteration, really any western state could use it
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40% of Cops 7/4/2023 1:04 PM
Cool if I share it around for free use?
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Go for it! I’m going to get stickers
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DevilTheAutopoet 7/19/2023 9:30 PM
Any way we could use this for stuff? It's the flag design that was used for Shays' Rebellion.
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Any way we could use this for stuff? It's the flag design that was used for Shays' Rebellion.
joe hill’s revenge 7/19/2023 9:42 PM
It’s just so ugly tho
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But we need a national graphic design
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It’s just so ugly tho
DevilTheAutopoet 7/19/2023 9:46 PM
Iirc, it had to be simple since they kinda had to organise and move very quickly.
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 7/22/2023 7:12 PM
Something I cooked up
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not the best
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as the quotes too long
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Don't stretch graphics like that. XI
7:26 PM
Take a look at AIFs Juneteenth posters, like the one with Frederick Douglas.
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I do like the lil 3 arrows shield in the QR code.
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 7/22/2023 8:44 PM
ty
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Something I cooked up
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 7/23/2023 3:57 PM
Maybe date the quote too
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 7/23/2023 8:40 PM
Going to work on some flyer mockups
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 7/23/2023 9:04 PM
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brochure idea
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a bit crowded imho
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joe hill’s revenge 7/23/2023 11:01 PM
Thanks for making this
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This will be a game changer for the org if we can push it and get it printed
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It's a good start, but design wise it could be pushed more
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If I have time, I can maybe photoshop a concept real quick
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Using your text, if that's okay? @DeepSouth [ATL, GA]
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 7/24/2023 2:47 AM
W.I.P.
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Using your text, if that's okay? @DeepSouth [ATL, GA]
DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 7/24/2023 9:57 AM
Sounds good
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 7/25/2023 3:09 AM
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 7/25/2023 12:27 PM
Feel free to use it politically, but I’m also using this as a logo for my mead
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Is there an antifa two flag’s design but with alligators instead?
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I feel like iv seen it before but can’t remember
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Is there an antifa two flag’s design but with alligators instead?
I was able to throw this together if thats something close
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That’s fantastic thank you very much
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 8/1/2023 3:31 AM
Very florida (edited)
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AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 12:32 PM
@str8 up demon This is an early version that I have. I want to add further details and put the AIF website QR code in the corner.
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AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 12:40 PM
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That's strange, it didn't upload the first time. Any and all constructive criticism is welcome. This is not the final version, just the first steps.
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 8/1/2023 12:49 PM
Goes hard
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Goes hard
AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 12:50 PM
It does. I'm not fully happy with the letters I put in, they feel too disconnected. I need to work on their spacing.
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AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 1:00 PM
I found a way to get the letters to fit better. I'm much happier with this.
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I want the word "FASCISM" to be a different color and font so it sticks out more. I'd go with a better font but I don't feel like paying absurd prices for one.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 8/1/2023 1:02 PM
I think the VERY edge of the original font is slightly softer, because it looks slightly different than the other text
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“Only you” seems to have a slightly fuzzier edge than “can prevent fascism”
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“Only you” seems to have a slightly fuzzier edge than “can prevent fascism”
AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 1:04 PM
Yes, I realized when researching the fonts that they are two different types. The transition from large lettering and one font to smaller lettering and a different font is what I believe gives it that fuzziness.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 8/1/2023 1:05 PM
Gotcha
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Looks good though, I think it’s just the autism making me pedantic
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But like, if you do want to give it the fuzzies, go over it with that one tool in PS or Krita
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Idr what it’s called, and it’s Defo not necessary
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But like, if you do want to give it the fuzzies, go over it with that one tool in PS or Krita
AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 1:10 PM
I'm using Krita. I may use that tool to make it blend in more. I do agree, it is nagging me as well. It looks good, but out of place.
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These are the borders of the T and F, respectively. You can see how compression has made it fuzzier.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 8/1/2023 1:39 PM
Yeah, exactly
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@str8 up demon This is an early version that I have. I want to add further details and put the AIF website QR code in the corner.
str8 up demon 8/1/2023 4:05 PM
FUCK YEA
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FUCK YEA
AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 4:08 PM
I just had an idea: I'm going to try to find a copy of this symbol in black and white and replace the "I" with it.
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str8 up demon 8/1/2023 4:10 PM
aight
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which symbol?
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AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 4:10 PM
The fasces. Sorry, my computer has been acting up. I'm not sure why it hasn't been sending images that I paste.
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AvoidOblivion 8/1/2023 4:29 PM
@str8 up demon Here is the Bash The Fash version, an early iteration.
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I'm rather happy with it. I can go in tomorrow to add the QR code if I can get a copy of it.
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str8 up demon 8/1/2023 4:37 PM
sweet
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thank you
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I'm rather happy with it. I can go in tomorrow to add the QR code if I can get a copy of it.
Could I upload this to my regional iron front account?
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Could I upload this to my regional iron front account?
AvoidOblivion 8/2/2023 11:42 AM
Yes, absolutely. Anyone can feel free to use it. You can expect more variations to come in the future.
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Could I upload this to my regional iron front account?
str8 up demon 8/2/2023 2:44 PM
ill be doing the same for my instagram
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ill be doing the same for my instagram
AvoidOblivion 8/2/2023 3:03 PM
I'm in the process of adding "IRON FRONT" with three arrows to the belt buckle and will add a QR code onto the top-right corner. I can set up a QR code myself, but that involves money that I'm not 100% willing to spend. If anyone can find one that leads to the website and that works, as all the others posted to the server I could find were no longer working, it would expedite the process.
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AvoidOblivion 8/2/2023 4:11 PM
This is the latest update. Constructive criticism is encouraged.
American_Iron_Front_Emblem 4
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 8/2/2023 4:24 PM
Goes fucking hard, just try to stretch the bottom text and maybe put a swastika where the hole in the O is with the line running through it
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str8 up demon 8/2/2023 5:02 PM
fuck yeah
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Goes fucking hard, just try to stretch the bottom text and maybe put a swastika where the hole in the O is with the line running through it
AvoidOblivion 8/2/2023 5:31 PM
I struggled just to put the QR code in the corner, but I'll see what I can do. Stretching the bottom lettering is easy, the swastika might be difficult.
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Goes fucking hard, just try to stretch the bottom text and maybe put a swastika where the hole in the O is with the line running through it
AvoidOblivion 8/3/2023 3:05 PM
I'm unable to do it. I've spent several hours now working to find a way but do not have the skill or knowledge to be able to do it. If anyone else is willing to make one in a similar fashion to the one in the original, I can share the measurements and color codes to ensure accuracy, and will put it in.
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joe hill’s revenge 8/4/2023 2:10 AM
Online shop for the Working Class History project: radical, union, labor, socialist, communist, feminist, Black history, anti-colonial, LGBT+, disability rights, anarchist and anti-racist products and merchandise. Purchases support the WCH project.
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Could Someone make a poster/sticker for Working Class History?
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str8 up demon 8/5/2023 1:28 AM
police badge
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(top) protect and serve
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(middle) not
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(bottom) harass and kill
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(top) protect and serve
Protect capital and serve the bottom line
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str8 up demon 8/5/2023 10:43 AM
i had the idea of having this overlayed on a badge
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Unu51, Syndicalizer of Anarchy 8/5/2023 5:30 PM
Protect the rich and serve them the poor.
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joe hill’s revenge 8/5/2023 9:32 PM
Could someone make a modernized version of this
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This is the latest update. Constructive criticism is encouraged.
kicks down door, out of breath THREE pant ARROWS pant IN THE pant "O" IN YOU!
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kicks down door, out of breath THREE pant ARROWS pant IN THE pant "O" IN YOU!
AvoidOblivion 8/6/2023 11:12 PM
That’s a good idea. I’ll give it an attempt tomorrow.
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I like the implication that Smokey is about to go to town on someone with that shovel too.
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I like the implication that Smokey is about to go to town on someone with that shovel too.
str8 up demon 8/7/2023 10:28 AM
lol good point
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can we have an uncle sam poster that says "I want you to stop fascism"
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@AvoidOblivion
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(ive post up 4 posters of smokey both variants around town)
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This is the latest update. Constructive criticism is encouraged.
str8 up demon 8/7/2023 10:37 AM
can i have the other version above with the QR as well
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can i have the other version above with the QR as well
AvoidOblivion 8/7/2023 11:07 AM
I’ll do that later today. I have some house work to do currently. I’ll let you know when it’s done.
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str8 up demon 8/7/2023 11:18 AM
aight
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Similarly the Smokey text might turn out well as ”Only you can stop fascism”.
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Or “prevent” in lieu of “stop” to maintain the original Smokey motto, presuming the text fits well in that space.
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AvoidOblivion 8/7/2023 2:47 PM
These are the newest renditions. Constructive criticisms are always welcome.
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@str8 up demon Here is the version with the QR code. @Eightman Here are the posters with the Three Arrows inside the O. I made them red, white, and blue for patriotism reasons.
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joe hill’s revenge 8/7/2023 3:07 PM
Anyone still working on this
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str8 up demon 8/7/2023 3:11 PM
fuck yeah
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Stolas_of_the_Stars 8/7/2023 3:21 PM
So we are thinking of starting an online fitness accountability club for AIF. Tentatively called the The Iron Front Heavies. Is there someone with experience that might be able to help with a logo? Cause I am absolutely SHITE when it comes to art.
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So we are thinking of starting an online fitness accountability club for AIF. Tentatively called the The Iron Front Heavies. Is there someone with experience that might be able to help with a logo? Cause I am absolutely SHITE when it comes to art.
AvoidOblivion 8/7/2023 3:27 PM
I am as well. All the work I have done that you can see above is simple resizing, coloring, and text editing. If anyone wants to draw something up, I can edit it in whatever way I can to pitch in.
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So we are thinking of starting an online fitness accountability club for AIF. Tentatively called the The Iron Front Heavies. Is there someone with experience that might be able to help with a logo? Cause I am absolutely SHITE when it comes to art.
joe hill’s revenge 8/7/2023 3:46 PM
I’ll join
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These are the newest renditions. Constructive criticisms are always welcome.
str8 up demon 8/8/2023 4:51 PM
they turned out amazingly i got 2 of both for the time being
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they turned out amazingly i got 2 of both for the time being
AvoidOblivion 8/8/2023 4:59 PM
Thanks. Let me know if there’s anything else you want added/changed.
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can we have an uncle sam poster that says "I want you to stop fascism"
str8 up demon 8/8/2023 5:01 PM
???
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maybe??
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this looks based
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 8/8/2023 5:36 PM
I thought of an idea
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Bash the fash
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 8/8/2023 5:52 PM
Once I’m home, I’ll work on something
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Bash the fash
AvoidOblivion 8/8/2023 5:54 PM
I'm interested.
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I'm interested.
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 8/8/2023 6:15 PM
So, one of the interesting quirks of Viking axes is the bearded shape of them (edited)
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Now one of the things attested to in the sagas is using them in a close uo brawl by Choking up on the axe haft, then punching with it, with your fist right under the blade, like the world’s nastiest knuckleduster
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And as a Viking reenactor, it really scrunches my bunches to see these fashie losers trying to steal viking imagery, so that’s why I tend to focus on Viking themed anti-fash stuff
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So anyway, bash the fash, based on this poster, with a Viking axe-punching a Nazi in the face
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 8/8/2023 6:58 PM
criticisms?
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 8/8/2023 6:59 PM
Slaps hard
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criticisms?
joe hill’s revenge 8/8/2023 7:36 PM
Goes hard
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New posters
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str8 up demon 8/8/2023 10:55 PM
omfg
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Bash the fash
str8 up demon 8/8/2023 10:55 PM
YAAAS
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Bash the fash
Stolas_of_the_Stars 8/9/2023 1:31 PM
Now that is an object d'art!
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Now that is an object d'art!
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 8/9/2023 1:57 PM
It’s an album cover in using as a base
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Stolas_of_the_Stars 8/9/2023 1:58 PM
Yea Sabaton is amazing.
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AvoidOblivion 8/9/2023 1:59 PM
If someone ever falsely claims that Sabaton is a neo-Nazi band, point to the album cover for Heroes, where we can see an American soldier punching a Nazi.
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Stolas_of_the_Stars 8/9/2023 2:01 PM
I mean I could see them being accused of Swedish nationalism. But I mean patriots are patriots. They ain't no jingos.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 8/9/2023 2:08 PM
Worst case scenario, they’re harmless liberals, and we ought to be more supportive of harmless and sympathetic liberals
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I mean I could see them being accused of Swedish nationalism. But I mean patriots are patriots. They ain't no jingos.
AvoidOblivion 8/9/2023 2:15 PM
One argument in Sweden that supports their supposed far-right views is the album Carolus Rex. Charles XII is viewed by Swedish ultranationalists as an icon, a figure to be celebrated for conquering Sweden's enemies and dominating the country. The title song itself is more critical of Charles, taking place from his point of view with him stating highly egotistical things.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 8/9/2023 2:16 PM
Also, more of the album is about the 30 years war, and is really hostile to it
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Also, Long Live the King basically goes on about how he basically doomed Sweden when he died
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One argument in Sweden that supports their supposed far-right views is the album Carolus Rex. Charles XII is viewed by Swedish ultranationalists as an icon, a figure to be celebrated for conquering Sweden's enemies and dominating the country. The title song itself is more critical of Charles, taking place from his point of view with him stating highly egotistical things.
Stolas_of_the_Stars 8/9/2023 3:31 PM
Album is a banger tho!
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Album is a banger tho!
AvoidOblivion 8/9/2023 3:35 PM
Indeed.
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Eazy8 Antifa Viking 8/10/2023 7:22 PM
Wait! I thought of something
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Swastika made from Z
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Russia Zs
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joe hill’s revenge 8/10/2023 7:43 PM
Pin this @WojtektheBear
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joe hill’s revenge 8/10/2023 7:44 PM
Thx
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AIF Cuirassier regiment 8/18/2023 10:43 PM
I found something to post in october, art is not mine btw
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@Graphic Designer hey all, would anyone be down to have a little informal brainstorming session over Discord at some point in the near future? Kind of thing where we can spit ball ideas and bounce stuff off of each other
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@Graphic Designer hey all, would anyone be down to have a little informal brainstorming session over Discord at some point in the near future? Kind of thing where we can spit ball ideas and bounce stuff off of each other
DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 8/22/2023 2:59 PM
Sure
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@Graphic Designer hey all, would anyone be down to have a little informal brainstorming session over Discord at some point in the near future? Kind of thing where we can spit ball ideas and bounce stuff off of each other
Eazy8 Antifa Viking 8/22/2023 3:27 PM
Sure I’d be down
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Cool. How does first or second week of September sound? Idk if any of y'all are students, if so we cam accomadate for scheduling
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 8/22/2023 3:42 PM
Good
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@Graphic Designer hey all, would anyone be down to have a little informal brainstorming session over Discord at some point in the near future? Kind of thing where we can spit ball ideas and bounce stuff off of each other
joe hill’s revenge 8/22/2023 3:50 PM
yea for sure
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@Graphic Designer hey all, would anyone be down to have a little informal brainstorming session over Discord at some point in the near future? Kind of thing where we can spit ball ideas and bounce stuff off of each other
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Mon-Tues-Wed are generally my days off work. Probably afternoon rather than morning if possible
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if anyone has a more specific preference of date and/time, let us know
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Mon-Tues-Wed are generally my days off work. Probably afternoon rather than morning if possible
joe hill’s revenge 8/22/2023 7:03 PM
Wednesday I’m off
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joe hill’s revenge 8/22/2023 7:48 PM
3 ideas I have for graphic design projects: 1. Advertisements for specific teams like filmmaking etc 2. Comb through og iron front posters for things to modernize and Americanize 3. Make some templates for use in specific cases (defend education, stop@this fash marsh, this person is a Nazi)
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joe hill’s revenge
3 ideas I have for graphic design projects: 1. Advertisements for specific teams like filmmaking etc 2. Comb through og iron front posters for things to modernize and Americanize 3. Make some templates for use in specific cases (defend education, stop@this fash marsh, this person is a Nazi)
Great ideas! As per the second one, I have a file full of old anti-fascist, anti-racist, left-wing political posters that have collected over the years to use as inspiration
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Also, are y'all on the IF Prop Div discord? I'm thinking we could have to call over there
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joe hill’s revenge 8/23/2023 12:57 PM
I was but I left
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Also, are y'all on the IF Prop Div discord? I'm thinking we could have to call over there
joe hill’s revenge 8/23/2023 5:42 PM
I'm not
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what time @Kraite
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joe hill’s revenge 8/23/2023 6:17 PM
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r we meeting tonight
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joe hill’s revenge
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Sorry sorry I missed the pings, I was thinking we could meet in a week or two, my bad (edited)
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str8 up demon 8/25/2023 11:01 AM
work harder so your boss retires earlier
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can we have that as like a sticker or poster??
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 8/29/2023 5:48 PM
Alright, how does this look?
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Looks pretty good to me
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA]
Alright, how does this look?
got a typo in the left column "authortarian". Needs an "i"
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 8/30/2023 8:11 AM
😭
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 8/30/2023 8:07 PM
I completely redid the flyer, took a couple of hours. Thoughts? (First one is what would be on the outside, 2nd is what would be on the inside)
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A couple of mockups of what it would look like.
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA]
I completely redid the flyer, took a couple of hours. Thoughts? (First one is what would be on the outside, 2nd is what would be on the inside)
Nice. Are we sure about "neither left nor right" though? Because realistically speaking where definitely on the left? (edited)
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Not necessarily the far left, but still leftward
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Nice. Are we sure about "neither left nor right" though? Because realistically speaking where definitely on the left? (edited)
DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 8/30/2023 9:25 PM
Well, the AIF is a big tent group?
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Yeah for sure
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 8/30/2023 9:25 PM
Ik most aif members are left wing
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Like big tent doesn't mean not left. Im down with the sentiment - you don't have to be an anarchist to be anti authoritarian- maybe we could think of a different way of phrasing it?
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But as far as like the graphic design goes I think it's awesome
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Very bold and clear
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 8/30/2023 9:30 PM
Yeah, I'll edit it
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In any case you have a winning design format, works really well as the trifold pamphlet
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 8/30/2023 9:31 PM
Thanks!
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I'll post some either tommorow or later
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sorry
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meant
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like
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distribute some
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA]
I completely redid the flyer, took a couple of hours. Thoughts? (First one is what would be on the outside, 2nd is what would be on the inside)
joe hill’s revenge 8/30/2023 9:44 PM
Could u replace anti communist with anti authoritarian communist or something
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We have ancom and other communist members (edited)
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 8/30/2023 9:46 PM
I just put it like that cuz putting authoritarian communist would be really long
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I’d put tankie but nobody offline knows what that means lol
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joe hill’s revenge 8/30/2023 9:46 PM
I’d also remove neither left nor right and replace it with “we want to bring together everyone who believes in the values of the American revolution.”
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I’d put tankie but nobody offline knows what that means lol
joe hill’s revenge 8/30/2023 9:47 PM
Anti Stalinist
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Anti Stalinist
Anti stalinist is good, it conveys the point succinctly enough (edited)
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 8/30/2023 9:50 PM
I just deleted the neither left nor right part
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joe hill’s revenge 8/30/2023 10:23 PM
Pls remove the anti communist part
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 8/30/2023 10:23 PM
I am
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joe hill’s revenge 8/30/2023 10:23 PM
Thx
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA]
A couple of mockups of what it would look like.
Monke Mountgomerierium Moker 8/31/2023 3:37 PM
these mockups look really nice, what did you use for it?
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Monke Mountgomerierium Moker
these mockups look really nice, what did you use for it?
DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 8/31/2023 3:43 PM
Canva
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 8/31/2023 8:04 PM
Final version of the brochure is done.
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joe hill’s revenge 8/31/2023 9:39 PM
Do u have a printable version?
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 8/31/2023 9:56 PM
That is the printable version
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just print it two sides
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@DeepSouth [ATL, GA] I like the outer jacket, but the inside is tough to read because of the contrast and white/red/white/grey colors. You might want to try lowering the contrast on the background images to make them look a bit less busy. I'd also suggest playing with the fonts on the inside, particularly with the white with red border. Stick with sans-serif like you have already, but maybe not Impact for the informational text. Consider also leaving some more visual space around the edges of each section on the inside. It keeps the eye directed to the text instead of looking disorganized with the panphlet is opened. I'd also increase the leading between the text at the top of each section and the body text, again just to make it looks more organized. Please take my critique as positive encouragement, not dissing your work. It's a solid product, and will look absolutely professional with some tweaking. I might have time to play with it if you send the file to me in Illustrator or other editable format. (edited)
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA]
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Great work!
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@DeepSouth [ATL, GA] I like the outer jacket, but the inside is tough to read because of the contrast and white/red/white/grey colors. You might want to try lowering the contrast on the background images to make them look a bit less busy. I'd also suggest playing with the fonts on the inside, particularly with the white with red border. Stick with sans-serif like you have already, but maybe not Impact for the informational text. Consider also leaving some more visual space around the edges of each section on the inside. It keeps the eye directed to the text instead of looking disorganized with the panphlet is opened. I'd also increase the leading between the text at the top of each section and the body text, again just to make it looks more organized. Please take my critique as positive encouragement, not dissing your work. It's a solid product, and will look absolutely professional with some tweaking. I might have time to play with it if you send the file to me in Illustrator or other editable format. (edited)
DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 9/1/2023 10:53 AM
Will do, thank you.
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@DeepSouth [ATL, GA] I like the outer jacket, but the inside is tough to read because of the contrast and white/red/white/grey colors. You might want to try lowering the contrast on the background images to make them look a bit less busy. I'd also suggest playing with the fonts on the inside, particularly with the white with red border. Stick with sans-serif like you have already, but maybe not Impact for the informational text. Consider also leaving some more visual space around the edges of each section on the inside. It keeps the eye directed to the text instead of looking disorganized with the panphlet is opened. I'd also increase the leading between the text at the top of each section and the body text, again just to make it looks more organized. Please take my critique as positive encouragement, not dissing your work. It's a solid product, and will look absolutely professional with some tweaking. I might have time to play with it if you send the file to me in Illustrator or other editable format. (edited)
DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 9/1/2023 4:07 PM
How does this look?
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Big improvement! You can read it much more easily
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 9/2/2023 10:17 AM
Ty
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 9/2/2023 9:01 PM
Something I did for images of activism to show what state they were in, how does it look?
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Scoot the logos off of the panphlet, and have the panphlet slightly more to the left and I think you're golden.
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 9/4/2023 9:01 PM
Flyer sheet
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@DeepSouth [ATL, GA] bro that looks dope. Makes me patriotic as fuck and I love adore it🦅
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DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 9/5/2023 9:41 PM
Pro-LGBTQ flyer sheet
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Pro-LGBTQ flyer sheet
I dig the messaging but I got to be honest that kind of hurts my eyes
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My neurodivergent brain has trouble reading over top all those colors
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Maybe turn down the opacity of the rainbow flag so it's a little fainter, then it would be easier to read the text
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Maybe turn down the opacity of the rainbow flag so it's a little fainter, then it would be easier to read the text
DeepSouth [ATL, GA] 9/6/2023 1:31 PM
Yeah, I’ll do that, sorry, I did it at like 11 last night lmao
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