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Organize against transphobia
on the ground / org-building
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there's notes on what's not yet complete/where im not sure about all the chapters
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/10/2022 2:26 PM
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/14YykvgXE3AfQO8Wr8KquDTh_vhQrSJqh?usp=sharing org building folder. if you want editing access please dm me or another moderator with your email. (edited)
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seb it/they 12/10/2022 2:26 PM
if you mentioned an org in the meeting and have specifc contacts please add yourself to the spreadsheet to contact them
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) pinned a message to this channel. 12/10/2022 2:26 PM
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Sam McKenzie 12/10/2022 2:33 PM
I can't edit the spreadsheet, but I'm the former president of Carolina Equality Alliance, so I can do that one
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Upstate SC SRA, obviously we have people here but we haven't actually been able to talk to the chapter organizer in a while so we probably need to fix that first. Meanwhile just role ping us if you need anything explicitly from us.
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Sam McKenzie
I can't edit the spreadsheet, but I'm the former president of Carolina Equality Alliance, so I can do that one
seb it/they 12/10/2022 2:36 PM
if you give me an email account i can give you access
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drhead
Upstate SC SRA, obviously we have people here but we haven't actually been able to talk to the chapter organizer in a while so we probably need to fix that first. Meanwhile just role ping us if you need anything explicitly from us.
seb it/they 12/10/2022 2:37 PM
yeah if you could contact the chapter organizer that would be fantastic
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seb it/they
if you give me an email account i can give you access
Sam McKenzie 12/10/2022 2:37 PM
Dope, thank you! handmanndragking@gmail.com
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seb it/they 12/10/2022 2:40 PM
you should have access to everything now :)
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Sam McKenzie 12/10/2022 2:45 PM
Thank you!
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seb it/they 12/10/2022 2:53 PM
@Priest can you contact the orgs you mentioned in the meeting?
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@jacklyn @Hayden (he/they) can one of yall work on getting wider DSA contact?
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@Caboose can you reach out to the unicorn party and Jasmine Sherman
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seb it/they
if you give me an email account i can give you access
Brence Walters 12/10/2022 2:55 PM
brence.walters@thefightfor15.org
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seb it/they 12/10/2022 2:56 PM
done :)
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seb it/they
@Priest can you contact the orgs you mentioned in the meeting?
Rog
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seb it/they 12/10/2022 2:56 PM
can you put that in the sheet
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or wait let me give you access or i can do it
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also SRA people: there's only lowcountry and upstate SRA right? I'm not missing a chapter?
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SRA here. There is an Upstate and Low Country SRA chapter. But there's also that Arditi group I mentioned.
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Brence Walters 12/10/2022 2:59 PM
It lets me edit docs but not the sheets for Org contacts for some reason.
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Also getting in touch with the Black Flags to see if they're interested in putting some muscle in
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seb it/they 12/10/2022 3:00 PM
thanks
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Brence Walters
It lets me edit docs but not the sheets for Org contacts for some reason.
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/10/2022 3:01 PM
can you reload the page for uss
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seb it/they 12/10/2022 3:34 PM
okay so the list of orgs we want to contact is complete, if people could help me start contacting them that would be great
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I should point out that Arditi and Black Flags are community defense oriented
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seb it/they 12/10/2022 4:04 PM
Yeah maybe we should wait until our next meeting to contact them
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I'm not sure what makes most sense in that respect
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I think community defense is definitely needed
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lol I'm in Arditi and worked a lot with the Flags
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seb it/they 12/10/2022 4:05 PM
Cool
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seb it/they
yeah if you could contact the chapter organizer that would be fantastic
So, update on that: since we have been trying to contact our CO for a while already and we haven't had elections in a long time anyways I just called for one trying to elect myself as provisional chapter organizer, so we can assess our resources and reorganize. I'll let you know how that goes.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/10/2022 4:15 PM
So is the current CO unresponsive?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
So is the current CO unresponsive?
Yeah, we tried to reach out a couple of weeks ago, and I haven't heard from them since May. Our former CO, who has moved but is still active in our communications channels, suggested calling an election.
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Chapter organizer for what organization?
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Upstate SC SRA
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Oh shit good to see you guys still out and about
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I was in LC SRA, before it collapsed
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Priest
I was in LC SRA, before it collapsed
What exactly happened there? I had been considering establishing communications with other chapters statewide and in adjacent states but it seems that every chapter near us that I know anything about exploded with some drama.
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drhead
Yeah, we tried to reach out a couple of weeks ago, and I haven't heard from them since May. Our former CO, who has moved but is still active in our communications channels, suggested calling an election.
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/10/2022 4:30 PM
good luck to yall. im wishing i had a rifle right about now
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drhead
What exactly happened there? I had been considering establishing communications with other chapters statewide and in adjacent states but it seems that every chapter near us that I know anything about exploded with some drama.
Probably something more for DMs
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seb it/they
@Caboose can you reach out to the unicorn party and Jasmine Sherman
I need to collect some info and put it together, but yes
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I emailed Jasmine Sherman, I'll follow up with her in a live or somethin
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I'll also post any actionable instructions to Stand As 1 fb
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seb it/they 12/12/2022 8:36 PM
Cool thanks
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I just reached out to Asheville SRA by email
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i put it in the spreadsheet, but i'll also share here. cola dsa leadership will be discussing coalitioning with OAT at our excomm meeting on thursday. also reached out to charleston dsa, and the iwwsc gmb and both are internally discussing the same rn. additionally emailed our dsa regional field organizer to request a list of at-large dsa members in the state, so we'll be able to engage them as well
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this following wednesday im going to the trans support group at hhc, and i'll talk with them about it then (edited)
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Y'all are so cool thanks
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I was also thinking... this is probably the largest amount of organization the left has had in this state in decades, isn't it?
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I don't think so
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Also I think I could really easily reach out to the Low Country SRA if it still exists, since I found a link to their discord server. But I want @Priest to sign off on that before I do it to ensure that this won't cause any problems.
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Also if y'all could please make sure the spreadsheet is updated
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Bc the next thing I'm going to start doing is reaching out to folks not yet contacted and i don't want to double contact anyone
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I can't edit it. Also do you want to separate it by state?
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Wdym?
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Like nc vs SC?
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Like, I'm also reaching out to NC orgs and don't want that cluttering the list of SC orgs
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/12/2022 10:20 PM
i think its a good idea
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If you dm me or Athena your email we can add you
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drhead
Also I think I could really easily reach out to the Low Country SRA if it still exists, since I found a link to their discord server. But I want @Priest to sign off on that before I do it to ensure that this won't cause any problems.
Do as you please bro lol
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Alright, just wanted to make sure that yall were still on speaking terms
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I established contact with Lowcountry SRA. Also, I discovered that Upstate SC SRA no longer exists!
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lmao 2
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drhead
I established contact with Lowcountry SRA. Also, I discovered that Upstate SC SRA no longer exists!
A few remnants are in the iww they're already here ^^ I have the email for the charlotte sra if you wanna message them
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Oh, did they break off too? They're not listed here.
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But then again we got surprise deratified so who the fuck knows?
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Hi hello would it be possible to move up the December 18th organizational meeting to december 16th?
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I'd be okay with that
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I think it warrants an everyone ping to check
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The original message is in #mutual-aid
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Or we could have an entirely separate meeting for points of unity on the 16th
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Yeah that may work since points of unity aren’t an MA specific thing
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I mean the original meeting kinda got pushed into being an organizing meeting
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So it would make sense to just split the two
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And make some form of circles
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And then have those circles do their own thing
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Gonna throw a ping in general about having a december 16th meeting to decide points of unity as an organization
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seb it/they 12/14/2022 1:17 PM
Who here has connections with WREN
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@Cyprus i know you've worked with them in the past no
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I dunno that I still have those connections
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seb it/they 12/14/2022 2:22 PM
Okay i might just send a cold email then
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i interviewed someone from wren for a journalism thing once
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but that was over a year ago
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seb it/they 12/14/2022 2:23 PM
Yeah I'm just going to start writing an email then
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Probably later today
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Still recovering from traveling
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Is there an OAT email
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seb it/they 12/14/2022 2:23 PM
Yep
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That's how we have a drive lol
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hahah OAT-mail
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seb it/they 12/14/2022 2:24 PM
I want an oat emoji
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oatmoji
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If we’re emailing orgs we should have an org email
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seb it/they 12/14/2022 2:25 PM
We fo
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Do
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It exists!
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seb it/they 12/14/2022 2:34 PM
You're fine lol i just i already said it a few times
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seb it/they 12/14/2022 7:43 PM
I am not realistically going to be able to write that email tonight, i am not feeling well due to my disability
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I can do it tomorrow though
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no worries- feel better
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/14/2022 8:24 PM
i dont think ill do a good job but i can pull a draft together if desired
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seb it/they 12/14/2022 8:25 PM
Okay if you do that i can edit and look over it Tomorrow
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/14/2022 8:50 PM
draft is done
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people can look at it whenever
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o now its done i had the names wrong*
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send it my way i can copyedit
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/14/2022 9:34 PM
its in the drive
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under org building
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idk if im on the drife
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/14/2022 9:50 PM
send an email you use @char (edited)
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seb it/they 12/15/2022 1:31 PM
looking at the email currently
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do y'all think we should ask them to send a delgate to our meetings? kinda similar to what other orgs are doing?
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it seems like what we're asking for from them is vauge
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I guess what we’re asking for is mutual support mostly
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Having people from them in here would be very cool
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seb it/they 12/15/2022 1:33 PM
i'll put an invite link in the email then
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It is cool and good to have people experienced and somewhat successful at this kind of organizing
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One thing with WREN is their willingness to work with PSL
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seb it/they 12/15/2022 1:33 PM
oop
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It would be detrimental to this organization to work with PSL
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seb it/they 12/15/2022 1:34 PM
i agree
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another thing i wanted to mention is that i think in addition to antifascism, antiracism should be a key point of unity
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it's very important
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i also edited the meetings to reflect what they're really about
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cyp do you want me to make a meeting agenda type deal for the points of unit meeting?
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Don't know about their presence in our state but I know they've been putting some work in in Texas recently:
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seb it/they 12/15/2022 1:39 PM
PSL has a history of ignoring and minimizing abuse
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and coopting otherwise radical movements for their own political gain
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we've had some negative experiences working with them in the past (edited)
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Hayden (he/they) 12/15/2022 1:40 PM
Do we know what the nature of their relationship is? It seems like psl just takes over their events and they don't really know what to do about it
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seb it/they 12/15/2022 1:44 PM
tw sexual assault, instutional coverup of assault https://fashbusters.wordpress.com/2022/11/10/open-letter-to-psl-salt-lake-branch/ (edited)
Republished without permission and with minor edits in brackets. Previous incidents of Party of Socialism and Liberation (PSL) covering up sexual assaults and/or protecting abusers can be found her…
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there's a lot more like this if you're interested in reading about it, i won't spam the chat with it if you aren't
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lol but apparently @felix will
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If you've already had bad experiences with them I won't argue -- I just remember that in north carolina during the roe v. wade protests there was some post-left group who was putting more effort into fighting against PSL than they were fighting for abortion access, which seems pretty counterproductive.
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seb it/they 12/15/2022 1:46 PM
i've seen them almost get a ton of my friends arrested
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more than once
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i'm not going to fight them
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but i'm sure as fuck not going to protest with them
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doesn't seem like a safe thing for me to do
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@Cyprus do you want to put them in the event description :)
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i'll copy the shit over onto them
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TW// sexual assault All the articles @felix posted talk about how they systematically cover up sexual assault committed by org members and blame and harass survivors as well as speak over indigenous voices.
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Hayden (he/they) 12/15/2022 1:52 PM
How does wren work with them
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They have good propaganda
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And Kym smith is good at organizing
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seb it/they 12/15/2022 1:53 PM
i'm poking around to see if i can figure out how they're connected
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Hayden (he/they) 12/15/2022 1:54 PM
Yeah I'm checking their site, nothing yet
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I'd be surprised if wren knew what psl is or any of the above info (no offense to them)
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I think kym smith was the permit holder for that abortion abortion rally in mid may
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Hayden (he/they) 12/15/2022 1:55 PM
Yeah that's their MO, they get permits for when a protest will be
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KS is also very involved in soda city bail, which WREN most recently worked with to hold a screening of the janes
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seb it/they 12/15/2022 1:56 PM
we had discussed contacting soda city bail as well
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We could still contact them just be aware of their ties
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Hayden (he/they) 12/15/2022 1:56 PM
I think we should reach out to them with the above info, including the WordPress that psl wrote with Kim's signature
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seb it/they 12/15/2022 1:57 PM
yeah i just was letting u know
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i think that should be after we get them onboard though
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Hayden (he/they) 12/15/2022 1:57 PM
Seems like her involvement with Wren is tangential at best, and they are a big resource
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Yes
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They have a big platform and judging from their site some cash on hand
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They would be optimal in pushing business to divest
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seb it/they 12/15/2022 1:59 PM
hayden could you pretty please give this email a look
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i need a real editor
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or felix
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Hayden (he/they) 12/15/2022 1:59 PM
Oh sure, I'm at work rn but I'm bored anyway
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Hayden (he/they) 12/15/2022 2:23 PM
I added some rhetorical bits, some changes for clarity and some flourishes. Take what you will and leave the rest
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seb it/they 12/15/2022 2:24 PM
Thanks
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I have to take my mom to the doctor's office
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We might need to have more people looking into getting connections with orgs in NC. The guy I know who has contacts there mostly knows people in PSL, so if we aren't able to work with them then I don't believe that'll do much for us.
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Hayden (he/they) 12/15/2022 3:03 PM
Let me hit up some folks
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seb it/they 12/15/2022 3:03 PM
@lissie ! (pls ping) they/she idk if anyone has asked, do you know anyone in NC org wise?
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I already asked them I think
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Oh, @nickinacage
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seb it/they 12/15/2022 3:05 PM
We can also look for NC chapters of some orgs already listed
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I just put SC based chapters
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Nico (she/her) 12/15/2022 3:15 PM
might be worth looking through some orgs listed here https://www.timeoutyouth.org/youth/resources
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seb it/they
We can also look for NC chapters of some orgs already listed
i'll msg charlotte metro dsa
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seb it/they
@lissie ! (pls ping) they/she idk if anyone has asked, do you know anyone in NC org wise?
lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 12/15/2022 5:44 PM
I don’t : ( I wish I did
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lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 12/15/2022 6:18 PM
Hey so time out youth is really probably not gonna be much help besides the fact they (at least 6/7 years ago) had pretty problematic ways of operating
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Can go more into detail in DMs but don’t rlly feel comfortable doing that publicly ig? TLDR is they’re very authoritarian and some other issues (edited)
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Sorry
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seb it/they 12/15/2022 6:22 PM
Thanks for saying something lissie 💙
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lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 12/15/2022 6:33 PM
Basically it just wasn’t the safe space they claimed it was
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Also they lied to me abt paying me to preform my spoken word at pride one year so. Bleh
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Sorry I got kinda triggered and im low on spoons so words are hard
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lissie ! (pls ping) they/she
Hey so time out youth is really probably not gonna be much help besides the fact they (at least 6/7 years ago) had pretty problematic ways of operating
Nico (she/her) 12/15/2022 6:34 PM
Ah I had no idea, I went to their prom events in high school but never knew much about the org itself
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Nico (she/her)
Ah I had no idea, I went to their prom events in high school but never knew much about the org itself
lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 12/15/2022 6:35 PM
Yeah their proms were fun at least lol! But other than that the actual like. Idk the word. It was all iffy at best when you got to know it
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seb it/they 12/15/2022 7:22 PM
okay i made some more edits to the wren email (edited)
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does anyone else want to give it one last once over and then we can send it?
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add me to the drive and I'll look over it if you need more eyes
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seb it/they 12/15/2022 8:20 PM
i'd like to send it by 9 if possible
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my final suggestion is in do what you will with it
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seb it/they 12/15/2022 8:42 PM
Thanks a lot (edited)
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thanks for all the work on this email seb ik you're busy
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seb it/they 12/15/2022 8:45 PM
@AthenaTheCommie (she/they) could you get into the email and send it
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tomorrow i'm going to try to write a similar one to both planned parenthoods
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/15/2022 8:48 PM
Sure whats the address im sending it to
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seb it/they 12/15/2022 8:48 PM
info@scwren.org
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this is just the general one on their website
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i was trying to find a better one though
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/15/2022 8:48 PM
Ill send it in 30 when im home
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seb it/they 12/15/2022 8:49 PM
great thanks :)
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lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 12/15/2022 9:01 PM
So there’s a chrome extension that will grab emails from linked in and might be useful ? You can always search and org, see if they’re on there, look for relevant employees/positions, and grab their emails? Idk if that’s helpful at all
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seb it/they 12/15/2022 9:03 PM
do you know the name of the extension
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lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 12/15/2022 9:17 PM
Lemme find it my friend told me about it
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Ok it’s called contact out
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Is it free
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/15/2022 9:28 PM
sent
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Cyprus
Is it free
lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 12/15/2022 10:00 PM
Seems to be free up to 40 emails a month
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What if we had regional chapters for coordinating actions
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Midlands, Lowcountry, and upstate or something
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You should add this to the meeting
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*meeting agenda
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Please other people add stuff to those
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I'm not comfy being the only person to write stuff in them, that's not really democratic or fair
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I also thought the point was to be a statewide thing?
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Yeah i think it's more effective if more people harass those reps
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Irregardless of where they're from
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Just like an overwhelming wave of pushback is ideal
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But like
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If we’re doing in person actions
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Or when certain orgs are in certain regions of the state
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A broad, statewide coalition that also has good regional cohesion is good
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I mean even for in person actions it's good if we can get cross regional attendance
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that feels like introducing a lot of bureaucracy when we already don't have a structure tbh
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Like i know for a fact if we had action in cola I'd be trying to help people carpool and pay for gas to get up here
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Etc etc etc
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Fair yeah
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itt - anarchist suggests needless bureaucracy (making fun of myself)
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Lol
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Hayden (he/they) 12/16/2022 10:53 AM
Maybe a good alternative would be region-specific chats in here?
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I like that idea a lot tbh
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Eh that might just make more noise
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I know people already have a hard time keeping track of stuff on discord
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Adding more chats might make that problem worse?
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I'm comfortable enough with discord it wouldn't matter to me, but I'm curious to hear from folks who are less accustomed to discord
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Nico (she/her) 12/16/2022 10:54 AM
I generally have trouble keeping up with discord despite having used it for a while
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I mean you could also argue it could reduce noise bc people would just need to look in one specific location instead of wading through everything
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Hayden (he/they) 12/16/2022 10:55 AM
I think maybe if the chats were in their own section instead of among the "on the ground" ones it might help
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I think the question is what the use case for regional chats is. Is it for planning actions regionally? if so, do we need that in advance or should we wait until it becomes an issue? Are we trying to compartmentalize/organize something that isn't actually a problem? Or is this something that's currently a shortcoming? Would introducing them lead to more stuff being planned? (edited)
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I don't think it's currently a shortcoming tbh
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I think the larger issue is that currently csoc members are dominating discussion and organization
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And so upstate groups are less included in that
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I'm not really sure how to fix that though
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I don't think adding regional chats would really serve to fix that either tbh
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I've been trying to ping and include other people but that doesn't seem to be enough
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I think it’s been working
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I think maybe if we set up circles and circle specific roles that might get better to
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We’ll figure this out on Monday, it’s harder to communicate over text than over call at least for me
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Bc wed be going off more than just the vauge i kinda know this person does social media stuff and is not in csoc
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Hayden (he/they) 12/16/2022 11:06 AM
A simple thing that could help is encouraging people to introduce themselves. Tons of people have joined and not said much
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My main goal for today as far as organization building stuff is to reach out to both planned Parenthoods
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I also think mutual aid/community building type events will hell
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I have some beef with PP’s Protest organizing but I am happy to work with them
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Like what if we all got on call and played a game
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Or something like that
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Cyprus
I have some beef with PP’s Protest organizing but I am happy to work with them
We should at least have contact with them since they're one of the largest providers of HRT in the state afaik
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Yes I agree
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seb it/they
Like what if we all got on call and played a game
Sounds fun!
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It might also be a good idea to write stuff for harassing reps
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Like what if we wrote an annoying email or something
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Like phone call scripts?
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Yes
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I want a rep harassment kit i can hand to people to make it as easy as possible for someone to harass a rep
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I don't have the spoons to make that all by myself today, but i think that's a pretty pressing thing that needs to be done
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Hm maybe i should just ping an org role and ask members of that org to work on it?
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Idk that's probably not the most efficient way of doing things right now but it's something and I'd like to get started
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Actually I'll probably do a general everyone ping
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I think a better question would be who has experience with rep harassment? I would help but idk what I'm doing with that
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Reminding about the meetings, clarifying how they got changed and then asking people for help with this
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I'm still eating breakfast and stuff but once I'm done I'll do that
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seb it/they
I want a rep harassment kit i can hand to people to make it as easy as possible for someone to harass a rep
WhichWitch17 12/16/2022 11:23 AM
This sounds like it’d be fun to both make and use. I’m down for this
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Cool do you have access to the Google drive?
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WhichWitch17 12/16/2022 11:27 AM
Yep I sure do
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Why don't you make a folder for it in the legislation folder
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And then make a list of the stuff you think would go well in a rep harassment kit
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And then start working on it
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If you make like a clear list of what needs to go in i can help start making things and we can spread the work around to other people
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Olivia
I think a better question would be who has experience with rep harassment? I would help but idk what I'm doing with that
Matt Cox he/him 12/16/2022 11:29 AM
I was the organizer for SC Wolf-PAC for two years and we harassed the h*ck out of some legislators. Not that it did much good
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Can you contribute to the rep harassment kit
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seb it/they
Why don't you make a folder for it in the legislation folder
WhichWitch17 12/16/2022 11:30 AM
On it
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Matt Cox he/him 12/16/2022 11:30 AM
Would be happy to, can’t at the moment but when I get home
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Matt Cox he/him
I was the organizer for SC Wolf-PAC for two years and we harassed the h*ck out of some legislators. Not that it did much good
would absolutely fuckin love your input then
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Matt Cox he/him 12/16/2022 11:31 AM
I’ll need to know some things of course and I’m not sure what a kit would consist of, but I can provide whatever experience I have
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WhichWitch17 12/16/2022 11:33 AM
Alright thanks. That would all be super valuable. Let’s harass some legislators together
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/16/2022 12:36 PM
just for legal reasons we should probably call it something other than rep harrassment
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rep re-education?
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That sounds worse lol
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more serious suggestion: rep outreach
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Hayden (he/they) 12/16/2022 12:43 PM
"influence peddling"
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lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 12/16/2022 1:46 PM
Hi I saw the announcement and it said this is the channel for emails
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seb it/they 12/16/2022 1:46 PM
yep hi
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lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 12/16/2022 1:46 PM
I love emails I love writing editing and sending them like i have an unnatural love for emails
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Seb has heard me go on about this before
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seb it/they 12/16/2022 1:47 PM
yes lol that's why i added you here
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i'm currently trying to work on an email to planned parenthood
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i've got a doc in the google drive with nothing in it
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lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 12/16/2022 1:48 PM
But any way I can help lmk 🙂 I can’t do much until Sunday but getting an idea for what I can do to be helpful on Sunday would be wonderful sorry I am very not with it lately and very slow brain from cognitive dysfunction 🙂 but yeah
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seb it/they 12/16/2022 1:48 PM
was going to copy over our email frm last night and edit it to add the new bill and remove the wren specific references
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lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 12/16/2022 1:48 PM
Bet
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seb it/they 12/16/2022 1:48 PM
i'll probably be working on a different email by sunday
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lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 12/16/2022 1:48 PM
It would be rlly good to kinda draw up a template I feel like
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seb it/they 12/16/2022 1:48 PM
i'm trying to do 1-2 a day
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yeah it's basically a template at this point
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just modifying what we already have
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lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 12/16/2022 1:49 PM
Hell yeah
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Would having like a template doc with underscores or whatever where you can insert organization specific things be helpful?
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I can try and edit one maybe? Shouldnt take me long if there’s already an idea going
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seb it/they 12/16/2022 1:52 PM
I basically marked put the org specific stuff in the planned Parenthood doc
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i bet you could take out the stuff i marked and make a templet very quickly
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Matt Cox he/him 12/16/2022 2:00 PM
Can we have some kind of meeting or an ad hoc channel to discuss the representative outreach kit? I'm curious what people are thinking we need
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seb it/they 12/16/2022 2:03 PM
if you'd like to set up a meeting you can using the event function
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i can create a channel if you'd like, but i think it would also be okay to just discuss it here
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Matt Cox he/him
Can we have some kind of meeting or an ad hoc channel to discuss the representative outreach kit? I'm curious what people are thinking we need
seb it/they 12/16/2022 2:15 PM
i think some sort of email template would be good? maybe a phone script?
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i'm not sure i've never done anythign like this before
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does anyone know about planned parenthood's previously involvment with fighting antitrans bills?
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seb it/they 12/16/2022 2:25 PM
okay @AthenaTheCommie (she/they) i think the planned parenthood emails are ready
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i need to you send two and change out the names for them if possible
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whenver you're avalible
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also hi im back and happy to help draft / edit emails and comms and stuff
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seb it/they 12/16/2022 2:26 PM
could you look at it rq then
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can you share the drive with charchar0130@gmail.com
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seb it/they 12/16/2022 2:30 PM
sent
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tomorrow it's my plan to work on reaching out to PFLAG
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awesome
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seb it/they 12/16/2022 2:30 PM
will probably need a different tone of email for them since this is more like parents of trans folks
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so more substantial editing will be needed
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yeah i can help
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 12/16/2022 2:32 PM
I'm more than happy to edit and send emails, y'all just let me know!
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seb it/they 12/16/2022 2:33 PM
could you look over the planned parenthood one?
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and then help me start editing our template to fit pflag more?
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looking over pp now
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seb it/they 12/16/2022 2:33 PM
that would be amazing
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@A-A-Ron (they/them)
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 12/16/2022 2:33 PM
Yeah, let me try to remember my email real quick 😅
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seb it/they 12/16/2022 2:33 PM
lol good luck
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 12/16/2022 2:35 PM
I'll DM you 👍
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what email for planned parenthood are we contacting?
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seb it/they 12/16/2022 2:39 PM
they
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*they're both in the spreadsheet
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so i worked with some planned parenthood action stuff in the past and i know their action is somewhat separate from their clinics? its kinda hard to explain but this is the site i found https://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/planned-parenthood-votes-south-atlantic
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only thing is i cant find an email besides the media one
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 12/16/2022 2:43 PM
Should I focus on PFLAG since char has PP? Or do you want a second pair of eyes?
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the email looks good tho
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A-A-Ron (they/them)
Should I focus on PFLAG since char has PP? Or do you want a second pair of eyes?
seb it/they 12/16/2022 2:47 PM
yeah working on the PFLAG one is probably more productive, but do whatever you feel is best
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seb it/they 12/16/2022 3:01 PM
i made some vauge notes for how the PFLAG one needs to be changed, but a lot more than what i noted needs to be done
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just busy with other stuff atm
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 12/16/2022 3:26 PM
I'm looking over it, no worries. Thanks for the tips. (edited)
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Also, this may be redundant, but do y'all think it's best to wait until Monday to send these out? They may get buried otherwise.
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seb it/they 12/16/2022 3:30 PM
you're probably right
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the planned parenthood one is probably fine if we get it in before their offices close no?
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seb it/they
i think some sort of email template would be good? maybe a phone script?
Matt Cox he/him 12/16/2022 3:39 PM
Ok, I can start with those.
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seb it/they
okay @AthenaTheCommie (she/they) i think the planned parenthood emails are ready
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/16/2022 3:39 PM
im here
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do you also want me to give you the email login info
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Matt Cox he/him 12/16/2022 3:40 PM
I'm still new at Discord, can we do group DMs? If so, everyone who is interested in a kit for legislator outreach, let me know and I will set up the DM. I've already got two people from the IWW interested in making calls
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
do you also want me to give you the email login info
seb it/they 12/16/2022 3:40 PM
that would porbably be easier
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Matt Cox he/him
I'm still new at Discord, can we do group DMs? If so, everyone who is interested in a kit for legislator outreach, let me know and I will set up the DM. I've already got two people from the IWW interested in making calls
seb it/they 12/16/2022 3:40 PM
group dms are not super transparent
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it's better to make a channel if you want to do that
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seb it/they
the planned parenthood one is probably fine if we get it in before their offices close no?
A-A-Ron (they/them) 12/16/2022 3:50 PM
I don't work for a non-profit, so if anyone has anymore insight then I'm open to it...but I'd say this late on a Friday is probably not the best option.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/16/2022 3:52 PM
i am trying to find where i email these
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seb it/they 12/16/2022 3:53 PM
We should just send them all out Monday morning then imo
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/16/2022 3:53 PM
i think thats a good plan
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 12/16/2022 3:58 PM
Yes. Gives them time to plan. Even if someone opened it today, there's a chance it gets lost in the shuffle. Or that ppl are already out of the office.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/16/2022 3:58 PM
im going to start drafts for a few other orgs
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seb it/they 12/16/2022 3:58 PM
I would recommend editing what we already have
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/16/2022 3:58 PM
yup
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im going to do SC pride next
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/16/2022 4:06 PM
emails drafted for both ACLU and sc pride
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Sam McKenzie 12/16/2022 4:13 PM
SC Pride is currently undergoing a leadership changes and some internal scandals btw. Not that it'll change anything, but idk who will exactly be in charge next year
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Also, the scandals were in regard to personal and professional conflicts that other board members had with the outgoing president, not like transphobia or anything afaik
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 12/16/2022 4:22 PM
I've reached out to a contact at Upstate Pride, waiting to hear back.
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 12/16/2022 8:29 PM
46% of lgbtq+ youth feel unaccepted at home 8% were kicked out of the family home 13% were financially cut off by family Exploring the Needs & Assets of the LGBTQ Community in Upstate, SC HELP US CHANGE THE STATS The last couple of years have seen new
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Also, can go and talk to them on Monday if y'all want me to
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 12/17/2022 11:06 AM
PFLAG email is done, if anyone wants to give some feedback on the parts I wrote. After it's finalized, I can make a separate doc for each of the four chapters in the state.
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I'll look over it shortly thanks so much
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I think I finally got hold of Triad SRA. Apparently there has been a slack channel for all of the SRA chapters in the SRA this whole time.
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I have been wanting something like that for two years 😭
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seb it/they 12/18/2022 2:04 AM
Did you figure out if there's any leadership?
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Or what's going on with regard to that
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 12/18/2022 2:05 AM
They shut that down years ago but I guess brought it back 🤷🏻
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And nah, we're working on it though
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seb it/they
Or what's going on with regard to that
They're one of the leadership members. It was over the forums, they're going to contact me soon over that. I'll let you know.
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seb it/they 12/18/2022 2:05 AM
Okay cool
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I haven't forgotten about the emails that needed to be looked at, just had a bit of an overwhelming day so didn't get to them
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 12/18/2022 2:09 AM
No worries!
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got access to the southeast SRA slack and I have people coming over to help from NC
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Victor (they/them) 12/18/2022 8:55 PM
Has anyone reached out to this organization? They came up when i searched for gay organizations in SC https://www.taagg.org/team
Meet our staff and board members
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I haven’t heard of them, we could definitely reach out
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first ive heard
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Cyprus
I haven’t heard of them, we could definitely reach out
I don't think they do much I've followed them fora while
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Couldn’t hurt to send an email
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From what I know they're a small org that formed within the last few years and hasn't had a huge on the ground presence
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Cyprus
Couldn’t hurt to send an email
Oh for sure, just trying to provide some info :)
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also should we reach out to mental health professionals or mental health professional organizations maybe? i bet they have feelings on the return to the medical model parts of the bill among other things
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/18/2022 8:59 PM
if you have suggestions, add them to the spreadsheet pinned in this channel
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Victor (they/them) 12/18/2022 9:09 PM
Are we wanting just SC therapists? My sibling is a therapist in NC and is queer/trans
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also should we reach out to mental health professionals or mental health professional organizations maybe? i bet they have feelings on the return to the medical model parts of the bill among other things
seb it/they 12/18/2022 9:10 PM
Theres already a tab for this in the spreadsheet (edited)
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Just need to find folks to add
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There's also one for doctors
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seb it/they
Theres already a tab for this in the spreadsheet (edited)
ah didnt see that
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ill add ppl
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George (He/They) 12/18/2022 9:11 PM
Reaching out to those near Charlotte, Augusta, and Savannah would be smart
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Victor (they/them) 12/18/2022 9:14 PM
Okay coolio. I can text liz they practice in charlotte. What exactly are we asking for from mental health people? Sorry if this was already said, i've been out of the loop the past week
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seb it/they 12/18/2022 9:17 PM
Strongly worded letter from the ones in SC
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Not sure about out of state
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Victor (they/them)
Are we wanting just SC therapists? My sibling is a therapist in NC and is queer/trans
Can I dm you about that? I've been meaning to get a new therapist recently
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Victor (they/them) 12/18/2022 10:15 PM
Yeah sure
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Victor (they/them) 12/18/2022 10:38 PM
Another org to add to the list to contact: https://genderbenders.org/programs/
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Also this org has a whole page about anti-trans bills in SC and a bunch of sign on letters: https://www.southcarolinaunited.org/trans-athletes
Find out all the ways you can take action with the SC United for Justice & Equality Coalition!
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/19/2022 12:58 PM
we're making an OAT google site in the drive : ) if anyone wants to help out lmk
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/19/2022 2:15 PM
im going to send the letter to ACLU now if no one has objections (edited)
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i can send the planned parenthood letters too but i still dont have an email to send them to
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seb it/they 12/19/2022 2:16 PM
yeah go for it
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WhichWitch17 12/19/2022 2:17 PM
None here. Send it!
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/19/2022 2:21 PM
i think its important we start getting some social media posts too so we have more of a presence if these orgs want to check what we do
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I'm marking Asheville SRA as completed on the sheet since I have access to all of the local chapters through the slack
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seb it/they 12/19/2022 2:27 PM
i'll finish editing the pflag emails shortly
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PFLAG emails are done :)
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thanks to aaron for the help
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/19/2022 2:32 PM
we got emails for pflag on hand?
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seb it/they 12/19/2022 2:33 PM
yep
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you will need to change out the name at the top for each chapter
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and remove the bolding
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lol i just failed a capcha
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welcome to robot seb era
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cola fnb is on there
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i know some CPP people are familar with them, do they want to get into contact
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@Nico (she/her) @AthenaTheCommie (she/they) uh idk who else cpp is in here
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Nico (she/her) 12/19/2022 2:39 PM
@jacklyn @Hayden (he/they) should have direct contact with cola fnb people I believe
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and remove the bolding
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/19/2022 2:46 PM
do you want the bolding gone on the pfag names or on the emphasis paragraph too
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seb it/they 12/19/2022 2:46 PM
i mean you can leave the emphasis bolding
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just the name
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Nico (she/her)
@jacklyn @Hayden (he/they) should have direct contact with cola fnb people I believe
i'll talk to marris at distro
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/19/2022 2:54 PM
all the pflag emails are sent
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oh, on the sheet, what's supposed to indicate that contact was attempted? do we just assume that based on it being assigned to someone?
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it looks like we might need to reach out to these gruops
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oh, on the sheet, what's supposed to indicate that contact was attempted? do we just assume that based on it being assigned to someone?
seb it/they 12/19/2022 2:56 PM
this is what i was doing
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oh, on the sheet, what's supposed to indicate that contact was attempted? do we just assume that based on it being assigned to someone?
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/19/2022 2:56 PM
it looks like the "response" tab is basically what is currently happening
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/19/2022 6:52 PM
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bu7cxXo7kmdceqqYVVdEkT6ANClg-M1YkywZOsaryYs/edit?usp=sharing proposition for how to restructure the org roles, specifically focusing around the discord roles
draft of org functionality: the "member org representatives" will be a non-hierarchical role within the org. Each representative will be tasked with representing the interests of their member org. There will be one representative per organization. The “security moderator” role will manage the d...
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Victor (they/them) 12/19/2022 7:25 PM
I'm gonna edit a contact letter to include the points of unity cause anyone joining the coalition should know upfront the agreement between the orgs. Then i'll send it to QGSA to see if they want to join.
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seb it/they 12/19/2022 7:26 PM
thanks vic
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i would use the Planned parenthood one
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i think that's the best to edit off of, it's the most recent thats directed at policial orgs
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seb it/they 12/19/2022 7:37 PM
tomorrow i'm going to make a list of HCBU orgs to reach out to
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help very appreciated :)
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Victor (they/them) 12/19/2022 7:39 PM
Here's the list of HBCU's in SC. We will have to dig further to find the contact info for queer groups at each
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Learn about South Carolina's nine historic African-American colleges and universities
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seb it/they 12/19/2022 7:40 PM
thanks vic
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Victor (they/them) 12/19/2022 7:40 PM
Ye
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seb it/they 12/19/2022 7:41 PM
id also like to prep another org contact or two
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tomorrow if possible
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FNB should be easy to knockout
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or soda city bail
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Victor (they/them) 12/19/2022 7:41 PM
I used the WREN one but I editted it down because I don't think we need to explain to queer orgs why this matters and I added the unity points. It's addressed to QGSA, but can be used for any queer student org i think
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seb it/they 12/19/2022 7:41 PM
can you add this to the drive?
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Victor (they/them) 12/19/2022 7:41 PM
I'm not in drive
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seb it/they 12/19/2022 7:42 PM
i can add you if you'd like
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Victor (they/them) 12/19/2022 7:42 PM
ill dm u
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Victor (they/them)
Here's the list of HBCU's in SC. We will have to dig further to find the contact info for queer groups at each
I have a few friends who go to sc state I can ask
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Victor (they/them) 12/19/2022 7:53 PM
I'm going to start going through the HBCU's websites to look for specific student orgs to contact.
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seb it/they 12/19/2022 7:54 PM
okay, i'm probably done working with oat stuff today, but will pick up on this tomorrow if you want to link specific stuff or ping me
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USCB in my hometown has a GSA with an instagram https://instagram.com/uscbgsa?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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Victor (they/them) 12/19/2022 8:13 PM
coolio i'll add them to the excel sheet
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I want to organize the sheet so all student orgs are together i think it will be more readable. But also wanted to ask if people prefer a different method of organization like alphabetical, regional, etc.?
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Victor (they/them) 12/19/2022 9:55 PM
Okay I searched through all the HBCU's and major universities in SC and added queer orgs and dem orgs to the excel sheet. I also fixed formatting and alphabetized within each state so it's easier to find things.
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Has anybody thought about reaching out to the Trevor project or trans lifeline?
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That one is on the sheet, let me grab the link
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oh, it's in the pins
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Ok pog
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A-A-Ron (they/them)
PFLAG email is done, if anyone wants to give some feedback on the parts I wrote. After it's finalized, I can make a separate doc for each of the four chapters in the state.
Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 9:11 AM
Hey - I run PFLAG Spartanburg, and I am strongly connected with Uplift. What can I do to help?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 9:12 AM
we've reached out to all PFLAG chapters. a good start would be to ensure your members are aware of the bill, and if you have a good channel to other pflag chapters, let them know about it too.
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 9:13 AM
Oh yeah we are already working on organizing. I also am an organizer with SC United for Justice and Equality. We are well aware.
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seb it/they 12/20/2022 9:34 AM
Can you also get us contact with SC united for justice and equality
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We're trying to make a "pressure your reps kit" and it would be good to work with someone with that
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Matt Cox he/him 12/20/2022 9:35 AM
I need to get on the scripts
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seb it/they 12/20/2022 9:35 AM
We're also trying to set up mutual aid with family's of trans children which we can talk about more over in #mutual-aid
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seb it/they
We're trying to make a "pressure your reps kit" and it would be good to work with someone with that
Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 9:37 AM
adam@southernequality.org - he is their main comms person. His name is Adam Polaski
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seb it/they 12/20/2022 9:37 AM
Cool I'll add it to my spreadsheet in a bit
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Or not my spreadsheet the spreadsheet
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seb it/they
We're also trying to set up mutual aid with family's of trans children which we can talk about more over in #mutual-aid
Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 9:38 AM
PFLAG was involved in the TX lawsuit that is currently staying their law. My chapter as well as Greenville are revising their bylaws to allow the org to waive membership fees for "special circumstances" should a family with trans youth need protection.
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seb it/they 12/20/2022 9:38 AM
Oh we also had an organizer meeting were we established points of unity
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Might be a good idea to read over that when you get the chance
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If you have any other org members who want to join the discord too that would be great
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Lynnie (she/her)
PFLAG was involved in the TX lawsuit that is currently staying their law. My chapter as well as Greenville are revising their bylaws to allow the org to waive membership fees for "special circumstances" should a family with trans youth need protection.
seb it/they 12/20/2022 9:39 AM
By mutual aid i mean more things like giving trans kids money and materials to help them be themselves
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This legal stuff is also very important though and in really glad you're doing that!
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Lol sorry if I'm misinterpreting, I'm in a different time zone and it is very early in the morning here
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By mutual aid i mean more things like giving trans kids money and materials to help them be themselves
Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 9:40 AM
Uplift helps with this in the Upstate. Gender Benders is another org that helps statewide. Trans Awareness Alliance as well in the Midlands.
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Also We Are Family, AFFA, etc.
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seb it/they 12/20/2022 9:40 AM
Cool i will reach out to all those folks
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Seems like you know a lot of the orgs that we were missing, i really appreciate it
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Do you have any personal contacts with in those orgs
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 9:41 AM
Yes on all fronts. I'll DM you?
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seb it/they 12/20/2022 9:41 AM
/would you be willing to reach out to them on our behalf
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Sounds good
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A lot of us are new to organizing so this experience is pretty invaluable to us
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Or more accurately I'm new to organizing so this is valuable to me :)
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 9:54 AM
I'm a baby at it. I only started in January of this year, but I've learned a lot so far.
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 10:12 AM
Maybe it isn't a topic to touch on with this group, but there are a lot of affirming churches out there. I think dragging the more mainline Christians off of the sidelines could be beneficial as well. There's no question that these bills are motivated by religious extremism. I think having some clergy speak up for us can either help or at least make some of the religious community turn in on itself.
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There's already mention of doing that
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I have some pretty close church contacts through my family and was waiting to meet with said family member to get emails/phone numbers
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Just waiting ~1 week for that contact
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We also already have a Lutheran Church in here
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 10:14 AM
Most affirming pastors I know are hesitant to be loud. In the background (in the meantime), I am speaking to church leaders as they will give me an audience. I've spoken more in churches this year than I had in the 30+ before I came out 😅
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We're also reaching out to doctors and mental health professionals we just haven't had the time to collate a list of those
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infinicommune 12/20/2022 10:15 AM
Boulevard Baptist Church in Anderson
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 10:15 AM
I personally know Dr. Guyton in Greenville - I am positive he's onboard to testify
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Wait you should get added to the drive so you can directly add orgs to it
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I'm being silly
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Let me shower and get ready and then i can start to get you set up
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 10:15 AM
I also know Dr. O'Brien is gearing up to help this year
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Most likely Annie Andrews as well
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infinicommune
Boulevard Baptist Church in Anderson
infinicommune 12/20/2022 10:15 AM
They have a cool pro-trans nietzsche and Marx reading pastor
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infinicommune
They have a cool pro-trans nietzsche and Marx reading pastor
Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 10:15 AM
whoa!!!!
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infinicommune 12/20/2022 10:16 AM
Austin Carty, he's really cool
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 10:16 AM
Yasssss!!!! They are CBF!!!!!
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Those are the cool Baptists
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 12/20/2022 10:17 AM
I'm sure Uplift will talk to Fernwood
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Lynnie (she/her)
I personally know Dr. Guyton in Greenville - I am positive he's onboard to testify
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 10:17 AM
if you dm me an email ill add you to the drive
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If y'all know people specifically it's probably a better idea that y'all use your personal contacts to reach out
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Especially if these are your pastors
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A-A-Ron (they/them)
I'm sure Uplift will talk to Fernwood
Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 10:18 AM
Fernwood has been hesitant to be loud for us, unfortunately. But yes, we will likely be pushing them again this year.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 10:18 AM
i can go bug my childhood church but ive heard they (metaphorically) are on fire and i cant say im mad
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L UU Moment
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I think they're probably still a good idea to contact, bc there's a lot of cool people in there
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Even if their organizational structure is on fire loo
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I might also reach out to my childhood church, but would do that with reaching out to larger denominations like i already mentioned
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Austin Carty, he's really cool
Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 10:21 AM
I have a contact in Anderson that says Boulevard is basically AU's right hand, and have been politically problematic in the past. Is it possible that's BEFORE this pastor joined?
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infinicommune 12/20/2022 10:24 AM
New pastor was within the last year or so and personally he's extremely cool and would probably be willing personally. I'm not sure how the structural interia of AU affiliations would interact with being involved with a group like this tho. I can ask him about it.
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I feel like every church we have signed on still sends a message
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 10:25 AM
I have a NB professor who was fired from AU, so if the church is tightly in bed with them, that's a problem. I'd like to know more.
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infinicommune 12/20/2022 10:25 AM
I mean nevermind
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seb it/they
I feel like every church we have signed on still sends a message
Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 10:26 AM
That's true if they sign that's really all that matters
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Hell, maybe it even shakes AU a little
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 10:27 AM
i think we should add a new tab in the sheet for religious orgs
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like we have with doctors
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There should be one
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Unless i forgor
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We should also reach out to synagogues and other local temples
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 10:28 AM
i cant see one unless im looking at the wrong sheet
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I can reach out to some of the Buddhists in cola
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 10:28 AM
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
i cant see one unless im looking at the wrong sheet
I forgot when i was making it
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Just add it lol my bad
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 10:29 AM
done
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Lynnie (she/her)
I have a NB professor who was fired from AU, so if the church is tightly in bed with them, that's a problem. I'd like to know more.
infinicommune 12/20/2022 10:30 AM
They are not
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 10:30 AM
ok!
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 12/20/2022 10:34 AM
If anybody who is reaching out to churches wants some insight, I'm the child of two preachers. We were CBF (Fernwood, First Baptist Greenville), now they're both in the Methodist church (which is going through a schism over queer issues rn)...so I'm vaguely familiar with some of the issues and how these arguments are being presented. Idk, just if anyone thinks that'd be helpful 🤷🏻🤷🏻
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 10:35 AM
I'm also a PK (Southern Baptist) - as is my wife (Independent Fundamental Baptist)
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infinicommune
New pastor was within the last year or so and personally he's extremely cool and would probably be willing personally. I'm not sure how the structural interia of AU affiliations would interact with being involved with a group like this tho. I can ask him about it.
Agree w this he's very well read
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infinicommune 12/20/2022 10:37 AM
He read Deleuze with me when I first started Spinoza Practical Philosophy :3
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That’s so cute
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 12/20/2022 10:46 AM
Also, I went to the UU in Columbia this past Sunday. They are at least welcoming (they have pronoun pins at the entrance and state that queer people are welcome), not sure if anyone who is local has had any experiences with them though.
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 10:47 AM
PFLAG Spartanburg meets at the local UU. They bend over backwards for us, and have always been extremely affirming. The head of Campaign for Southern Equality is a Lesbian UU pastor.
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 12/20/2022 10:48 AM
Yeah, I've only ever heard good things about them. They were a few tables down from us at Upstate Pride as well (edited)
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"us" being the IWW
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 10:49 AM
I was at Cola Pride!
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Hate we hadn't made the connection yet.
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 12/20/2022 10:49 AM
Oh, I meant Upstate lol my fault
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 10:50 AM
The rainy/miserable one in Spartanburg, or the nice one in Greenville? lol
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 12/20/2022 10:50 AM
Rainy one in Spartanburg
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 10:51 AM
Yeah that's Scott Neely. He's really sweet. His sister is actually our VP at WREN. But fuck that rainy day
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I was there too - sorry we didn't connect (edited)
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Amberlyn can you add more specific contacts for the pride people you know in the spreadsheet
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We have like the org contacts but it's probably much more effective to reach out to specific people
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 10:52 AM
I will when I have a chance, for sure
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Lol yeah no pressure
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I'll go through and add all the info you dmed me and also all the orgs and people that have been mentioned here in a bit
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@Debbie could you talk to Dylan about the agape table possibly joining or working with us, I know you know him personally (edited)
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 11:44 AM
I also know Dylan and will see him Friday. How are you connected @Debbie ?
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Debbie is from midlands mutual aid
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 11:45 AM
Gotcha. I will mention this server to him Friday as well
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If anyone wants to connect, I will be attending a Christmas service with Emmaus Church on Friday at 6pm. They are meeting at Crossroads Church on Ashland Road. My family will be with me, and it's an affirming congregation.
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(in Cola)
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Victor (they/them) 12/20/2022 12:27 PM
For cold-emailing, would it be better to use the OAT email or is it okay to use personal emails and just say hey i'm a member of OAT?
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I think it's better to use oat email
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Victor (they/them) 12/20/2022 12:29 PM
Okay. I can use my QGSA formatted letter and edit it to send to all the queer college orgs I found yesterday. Once I've saved them into the drive, who has access to the gmail to send them?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 12:29 PM
I do
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I am at the doctor but i can send them when im home (edited)
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Victor (they/them) 12/20/2022 12:29 PM
Okay I'll start editting and uploading them
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Athena can you get me email access today so we can spread this out a bit more
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Victor (they/them) 12/20/2022 12:39 PM
Okay just uploaded 7 letters for the college orgs who have emails. There are college orgs at Wofford and Newberry College I found that didn't have their email listed and were only on instagram. Do we have a way to reach out to them as well?
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I put "Oat Email" as the contact line so it will be easier to spot in the spreadsheet
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I think we do have an Instagram
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You could ask a #social-media person to set that up, I've got no idea who has access to it or if it's active yet
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Victor (they/them)
Okay just uploaded 7 letters for the college orgs who have emails. There are college orgs at Wofford and Newberry College I found that didn't have their email listed and were only on instagram. Do we have a way to reach out to them as well?
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 1:05 PM
do you want me to go ahead and send em out?
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Victor (they/them) 12/20/2022 1:05 PM
Yea if you can
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 1:15 PM
i think i just sent out all of them
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i marked them off with a "sent"
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seb it/they 12/20/2022 1:16 PM
omg this spreadsheet looks so much better
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a relief
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 1:46 PM
we got a response from ACLU, they gave us the emails of some legislative leaders at SC United for Justice and Equality. ( <phil@fordandfordgroup.com>; adam@southernequality.org <adam@southernequality.org>; Emily Mayer <emily@fordandfordgroup.com>) (edited)
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 1:47 PM
Phil and Emily are the bomb. Josh is my buddy. He takes this shit seriously. Adam is a sweetheart too.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 1:49 PM
ive added the contact info to our spreadsheet
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and here is the response representing ACLU themselves
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 1:51 PM
Yes. ACLU will sue when there's a solid case. Until that time, they network with advocates and lobby.
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seb it/they 12/20/2022 2:04 PM
hm we still haven't found an email for the planned parenthood stuff
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 2:04 PM
yeah
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i went looking and couldnt find one either
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seb it/they
hm we still haven't found an email for the planned parenthood stuff
What do you need? Might be able to help.
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seb it/they 12/20/2022 2:05 PM
we were just trying to establish basic contact with all the clinics in sc that provide hrt
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and their activism/organizing infrastructure
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both for possible clinic defense if needed and to get another org on board
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we have an email written, just no where to send it
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seb it/they
we were just trying to establish basic contact with all the clinics in sc that provide hrt
I know the electoral organizer for PP. I’ll DM you their info
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seb it/they 12/20/2022 2:08 PM
@Victor (they/them) did you look for college orgs for HCBUs or just in general?
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seb it/they
we have an email written, just no where to send it
I can’t DM you apparently, so here is the email: katherine.richert@ppsat.org
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seb it/they 12/20/2022 2:17 PM
oh strange
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one sec i need to find out why
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did it say friends only?
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 2:17 PM
I think you need to be friends
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yeah i had tried to dm you before, you have it set on friends only i think
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Yup
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seb it/they 12/20/2022 2:18 PM
should be fixed now
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lol that's why so many people were sending me friend requests
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 2:19 PM
we just want to be friends 👉 👈
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 12/20/2022 2:19 PM
I mean, yes, but you seem really cool too
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seb it/they 12/20/2022 2:19 PM
lol can someone who is not my friend try to dm me now
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also yes friend requests are good especially if the server gets deleted/something happens
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A-A-Ron (they/them)
I mean, yes, but you seem really cool too
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 2:20 PM
seb is the coolest
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seb it/they 12/20/2022 2:20 PM
which recently happened on another discord i'm in
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aw thanks
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seb it/they
also yes friend requests are good especially if the server gets deleted/something happens
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 2:20 PM
when the feds take me yall gotta communicate somehow
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@Victor (they/them) did you look for college orgs for HCBUs or just in general?
Victor (they/them) 12/20/2022 2:32 PM
Colleges in general
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seb it/they 12/20/2022 6:15 PM
from SC united
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i also can now access the email to send emails if people want/need
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Hayden (he/they) 12/20/2022 6:16 PM
Just a side note, y'all are really cooking with some gas on the organizing side
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Victor (they/them)
Colleges in general
Nico (she/her) 12/20/2022 6:38 PM
am I to understand we still need to contact HBCU's specifically
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Victor (they/them) 12/20/2022 6:42 PM
No I went through the hbcus in sc and put all their queer and social justice groups in the excel sheet. I was saying that I did it for the other college in sc as well
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seb it/they 12/20/2022 7:00 PM
@AthenaTheCommie (she/they) did you send the pp email?
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i don't see it but i just don't want to double email
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seb it/they 12/20/2022 7:14 PM
okay making a note for myself Emails to be sent PP charleston pride charleston black pride PFLAG anderson (edited)
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@AthenaTheCommie (she/they) did you send the pp email?
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 7:34 PM
No i couldnt find an address to send it to
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
No i couldnt find an address to send it to
katherine.richert@ppsat.org
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seb it/they 12/20/2022 7:36 PM
yeah i got it, just trying to get some other stuff together
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will send all these emails tomorrow first thing bc everyone is away rn
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late night seb thoughts: what if we targeted Parent teacher associatioins
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i feel like angry moms are cool and good
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True, and don’t forget teachers themselves
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i'm already looking at professional teacher orginzations
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we've got a potential contact in one major educational org supplied by @Lynnie (she/her)
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but i'm looking for more
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help greatly appreciated
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could work but... it could also backfire. i just tend to assume everyone in this state is reactionary by default until proven otherwise, but that's probably mostly because i'm accustomed to hiding.
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also going to start just emailing my gay teachers
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i mean there's only one way to figure out
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seb it/they
but i'm looking for more
Which one did she point you to?
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not much worse they can do then call us slurs and or not respond
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and either of those things don't really bother me
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COConnell@thescea.org | Colleen O'Connell, Public Affairs Specialist, South Carolina Educators Associate (SCEA)
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3 of my high school English teachers are board members or directors of SC for Ed, which is a teacher advocacy org that’s queer friendly
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seb it/they
i'm already looking at professional teacher orginzations
SC for Ed
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Oh yeah them!
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pretty toothless but they would support this
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have you contacted the FLAG people in Greenville?
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no they're on the list
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i think theyre on the general orginzations one and not specifically education
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not that it really matters
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i wish we had like a single teacher in here
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idk we probably do and dont know it
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also we should contact indigenous orginzations in SC
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i have no idea where to start with that but it's definately a thing we need to do
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okay i've got a nifty little plan
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Find the Right Transgender Therapist in South Carolina - E A Pratt, MDiv, EdS; Sam Diamond, MA, LPC; Emily Howard, LPC-A; Regina Ferris, LMFT; Kate Kleinfelter, PhD; Rooted Therapy, MA, LCMHCS; Krysta Webster Fink, PhD; Tanya Koifman, LCSW
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this allows us to have a list of all the queer friendly therapists in the state
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what if we write one therapist email
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scrape all of these therapists emails
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send it out
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boom therapist army assembled
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@felix summoning you bc you know more about scraping than i do
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i wish they had an api
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o7
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you're so cool
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hmmmMMMMM
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time to start making phone calls
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i'm autistic i can't make phone calls ;-;
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i can do it for the cause
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lol nasty link
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oh i'm so silly
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lawyers
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let's also try to summon an army of lawyers
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if you're calling lawyers ask about legal support for friday
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seb it/they 12/22/2022 1:04 AM
i don't have any yet
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but i will try to get some
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i really need help if i'm making phone calls
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i know @Matt Cox he/him mentioned his wife is a lawyer
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seb it/they 12/22/2022 1:36 AM
okay so todo list for me/others if they would like to help: -write generic lawyer contact email -write generic doctor contact email -write generic therapist contact email -send emails to people listed in this message (https://discord.com/channels/1050225973477515356/1051217908447064174/1054914695150190632) -finish scraping providers from this site: stopped at jenifer bennet https://southernequality.org/resources/transinthesouth/#provider-map (edited)
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/22/2022 2:38 AM
I have contacts in SC for Ed as well as the ProTruth Coalition. Let me get them real quick
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emungai@naacpldf.org | Estherjoy "Est" Mungai, NAACP LDF (steers pro-truth coalition) Colleen with SCEA can connect you with SC for Ed
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/22/2022 2:50 AM
I will say the folks at LDF may initially take a position on trans rights of "not really our main focus," but they often will show up if the bills actually get legs
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i wish we had like a single teacher in here
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/22/2022 10:44 AM
my mother taught in SC for years, is there something i should ask her?
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What orgs to reach out to tbh
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We've already got several
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/22/2022 10:45 AM
ok
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Or just general progressive/radical teacher contacts
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/22/2022 10:45 AM
ill go finish scraping that website
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what criteria am i putting for the search? i put sc and im getting a very different list than whats in the spreadhseet
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Huh strange
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I just out in SC
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I'm getting the same list i got last night
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seb it/they
i know @Matt Cox he/him mentioned his wife is a lawyer
Matt Cox he/him 12/22/2022 10:48 AM
She is, sadly her firm is civil. I'm reaching out to a friend who is a family/criminal lawyer to see if he has any contacts
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Even if it's civil i think it would be a good idea to get as many lawyers as possible involved
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/22/2022 10:49 AM
are you putting hrt?
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No
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Just sc
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/22/2022 10:49 AM
okay im just going to start copying what i see
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It's lawyers, therapists and doctors
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Just make sure to search for duplicates lol
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/22/2022 10:50 AM
im going to copy the provider type too, thats important
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seb it/they
Even if it's civil i think it would be a good idea to get as many lawyers as possible involved
My reasoning here is things like name changes etc are also civil, and we are talking about putting pressure on large businesses which means civil lawyers are a good idea
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
im going to copy the provider type too, thats important
I thought that was already covered by the tab it's in? Or do you mean something different
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/22/2022 10:51 AM
some of them do different thinks
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like mental health
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or hrt
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seb it/they
Even if it's civil i think it would be a good idea to get as many lawyers as possible involved
Matt Cox he/him 12/22/2022 10:51 AM
If there is some way they can help, I'm sure they would be down, but for Friday if we get caught up, we will need criminal attorneys or at least attorneys with criminal experience
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
or hrt
The hrt ones should go in the doctor tab, while mental health should be in mental health tab
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Lawyers in the lawyers tab lol
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/22/2022 10:52 AM
oh
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Idk if you can see that?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/22/2022 10:52 AM
okay'
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i get it
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I added a lot of sub sheets
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Matt Cox he/him
If there is some way they can help, I'm sure they would be down, but for Friday if we get caught up, we will need criminal attorneys or at least attorneys with criminal experience
Oh yes definitely, i was talking more about getting a general lawyer presence in the org/coalition, not specifically for tomorrow
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Matt Cox he/him 12/22/2022 10:53 AM
Got it. The comment right above that was about Friday so I made connections lol
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Very fair lol it's confusing and there's a lot going on
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I also did all this very late at night so i was a bit out of it
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Matt Cox he/him 12/22/2022 10:54 AM
Pretty much standard 2022, that
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Tbh like since 2016
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Matt Cox he/him 12/22/2022 10:54 AM
Time, what is time?
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robin (they/it) 12/22/2022 11:32 AM
my mama is a federal public defender and v supportive. i can ask her stuff if yall want / get some of yall in contact with her. she works in ga but she has a lot of contacts around the us and if she cant directly help with a situation she could help find the right people who can
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Contacts would be great
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/22/2022 12:08 PM
ajdavis76@gmail.com | Anjene "AJ" Davis is a POC activist in the Lowcountry. He's focused on Black Voters Matter and SC for Ed, and is really good at whipping marginalized groups in-line when intersectionality comes into play. He's stood up for trans people on multiple occasions.
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seb it/they
Oh yes definitely, i was talking more about getting a general lawyer presence in the org/coalition, not specifically for tomorrow
Lynnie (she/her) 12/22/2022 12:10 PM
Melissa Moore may be able to (or can direct you to) someone who can show up and be a legal observer to document everything should something pop off.
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WREN does some activism basics training centered around keeping our people safe. Would this group be interested in such a session?
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ooooh I see said Melissa
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Lynnie (she/her)
Melissa Moore may be able to (or can direct you to) someone who can show up and be a legal observer to document everything should something pop off.
pickles- they/them (mel) 12/22/2022 12:15 PM
👋! I connected an organizer from this group with josh from aclu. Josh is sending a training video for LOs . We would be happy to do a train-the-trainers training day on all the pretty organizing things so that folx can skill up their people. We’ll be hosting workshops on street medic, marshal, LO, and advocacy 101 in Jan
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/22/2022 12:15 PM
This is why Pickles is awesome, y'all
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pickles- they/them (mel) 12/22/2022 12:16 PM
For tomorrow, we got videos! Ahem back at you ms amberlyn
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I’m taking rest until Jan 3 so that I can come back strong for session. Until then, I can connect here
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/22/2022 12:17 PM
FYI Pickles I'm doing a marshaling training tonight with a group in Anderson/Greenville. Is the last slideshow we used together still the most accurate one?
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pickles- they/them (mel)
I’m taking rest until Jan 3 so that I can come back strong for session. Until then, I can connect here
Lynnie (she/her) 12/22/2022 12:17 PM
As you should - we've all been beat up hard this year.
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Lynnie (she/her)
FYI Pickles I'm doing a marshaling training tonight with a group in Anderson/Greenville. Is the last slideshow we used together still the most accurate one?
pickles- they/them (mel) 12/22/2022 12:17 PM
Yes it should work! Hell yeah!
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seb it/they
okay so todo list for me/others if they would like to help: -write generic lawyer contact email -write generic doctor contact email -write generic therapist contact email -send emails to people listed in this message (https://discord.com/channels/1050225973477515356/1051217908447064174/1054914695150190632) -finish scraping providers from this site: stopped at jenifer bennet https://southernequality.org/resources/transinthesouth/#provider-map (edited)
Nico (she/her) 12/22/2022 12:56 PM
I can write therapist contact email when I get home later tonight if no one else has yet
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/22/2022 1:12 PM
okay the mental health tab is done
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/22/2022 1:36 PM
im also going to add trans in the south to the website resources
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seb it/they 12/22/2022 3:11 PM
I probably will not be able to do my to-do list today
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My chronic illness is kicking my ass rn and I've been sent to the sleep zone
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is there anything more critical you want us to make sure get done?
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seb it/they 12/22/2022 3:12 PM
Those emails that are already written being sent
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Since they're just sitting there
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/22/2022 3:12 PM
ill shoot off the pflag anderson email
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also i think it should probably be standard practice to link our website with each email from now on
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its our best piece of media so far
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seb it/they 12/22/2022 3:16 PM
I'll be muting so if anyone needs anything ping me
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/22/2022 3:22 PM
im also adding h3351 to all the emails
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okay pflag anderson, and both chs prides have been sent emails
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was still unable to proceed on PP since they dont seen to have public facing emails
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seb it/they 12/22/2022 3:24 PM
It's been linked a few times one sec
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I can’t DM you apparently, so here is the email: katherine.richert@ppsat.org
seb it/they 12/22/2022 3:25 PM
Use this one
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/22/2022 3:25 PM
kay
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seb it/they 12/22/2022 3:25 PM
And only send one and just make it planned Parenthood
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/22/2022 3:25 PM
im on it
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/22/2022 3:43 PM
aight PP has been emailed
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we got this
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seb it/they 12/22/2022 3:51 PM
I crossed it odd
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Off
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/22/2022 6:12 PM
I have one other contact with PPSAT if Katherine doesn't get back to you
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Lynnie (she/her)
I have one other contact with PPSAT if Katherine doesn't get back to you
She will. I gave her a heads up so she’ll be on the look out for the email. If all else fails, there is always Allison (I assume that’s who you mean though).
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She will. I gave her a heads up so she’ll be on the look out for the email. If all else fails, there is always Allison (I assume that’s who you mean though).
Lynnie (she/her) 12/22/2022 6:15 PM
Yup!
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I’m on PPGA’s exec team as well, I was going to bring it up to the rest of the team when we have our meeting to plan the semester
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seb it/they 12/22/2022 6:37 PM
@AthenaTheCommie (she/they) what does the highlighting mean in the stuff you added to the spreedsheet?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/22/2022 6:38 PM
oh it means i forgot to remove the formatting
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ill fix it
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seb it/they 12/22/2022 6:43 PM
Oh okay lol
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Nico (she/her)
I can write therapist contact email when I get home later tonight if no one else has yet
Nico (she/her) 12/23/2022 1:16 PM
I lied I'm just now getting to the letter but what I was thinking was -explanation of laws and why they're harmful (like in our other letters) -points of unity ig my main question is what specifically should we be asking of therapists. like should we ask for signatures opposing these bills, continued support of trans people if these bills are passed?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/23/2022 1:21 PM
Ask them to commit to single-appointment referrals and diagnosis
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So that people can still get access to medical transition (edited)
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seb it/they 12/23/2022 1:22 PM
Also to send letters using their professional knowledge to oppose it
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
Ask them to commit to single-appointment referrals and diagnosis
Nico (she/her) 12/23/2022 1:24 PM
so by this you mean, ask them to diagnose gender dysphoria and refer to place to get hormones at the 1st appointment, I assume this is just in case informed consent goes away
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/23/2022 1:24 PM
Yes
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Nico (she/her) 12/23/2022 1:25 PM
ok, thank you both for ur feedback, I'll write it out and let people look over it
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Nico (she/her) 12/23/2022 1:42 PM
hey I just realized, in a lot of our emails we link s243 twice and don't link s274
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seb it/they 12/23/2022 1:43 PM
Oh wack
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Could you fix that going forward
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Nico (she/her) 12/23/2022 1:43 PM
yep
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seb it/they 12/23/2022 1:43 PM
Cool
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Nico (she/her) 12/23/2022 1:46 PM
are there any emails in the drive that haven't been sent yet? I can fix those as well
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seb it/they 12/23/2022 1:47 PM
i don't think so
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Nico (she/her) 12/23/2022 1:47 PM
ok
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Nico (she/her) 12/23/2022 2:02 PM
I've written the therapist letter @organization_outreach if anyone wants to look over it, highlighted stuff is what I've added that differs from template we've used for other emails
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seb it/they 12/23/2022 2:04 PM
I'll look over it this evening
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Thank you Nico
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Nico (she/her) 12/23/2022 2:11 PM
I'm gonna take a break and write the doctor letter as well, ig I also just have the same question on what specifically we want to ask of them? -ask interest in attending seminar about trans patients -sending letters in opposition to bills anything else?
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seb it/they 12/23/2022 2:12 PM
So we've got multiple different practices of doctors who would need to do different things
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I would just leave it more general honestly
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I think the people who are interested will join with the basic letter
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Nico (she/her) 12/23/2022 3:34 PM
I have a generic letter for doctors, I feel like this one might need some more input than the therapist one, I was a little unsure of what all I should put
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seb it/they 12/23/2022 9:23 PM
@Nico (she/her) these emails look great! thanks
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seb it/they 12/23/2022 9:33 PM
okay so homehow we have like 3 different lists of therapists to contact
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i'm going to combine them
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wait there are two about letters
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also i'm not sure all the ones scraped from the pysch today website are actually trans friendly
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that was more to contact them
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i'd want more verification before posting them as resoucers
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no they just marked the check box on being LGBT positive
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that doesn't mean they actually are good therapists lol or understand trans issues
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my mom for example has that checked on her pyshcology today page
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Call or email and ask during business hours?
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It would definitely take a while, but there’s not an insignificant amount of people here
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seb it/they 12/23/2022 9:37 PM
yeah i think we should work on a more verified list for resources
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i was going to start calling and asking
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that was my plan
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yeah if you don't mind
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working on lawyer letter atm
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kinda struggling
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seb it/they 12/23/2022 9:57 PM
okay legal letter done
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@organization_outreach if y'all could look at it, that would be cool. I feel the flow is a bit clunky still
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/23/2022 10:01 PM
I am tire
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I can look in the morning (edited)
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going to make a new todo for myself/others - add religious organizations to spreadsheet - work on sending emails to each org already listed in spreadsheet - start calling therapists from the list - combine the therapist contact lists -seb: contact church contacts (edited)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
I am tire
yes ofc rest up if y'all went to the action today!
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@Nico (she/her) these emails look great! thanks
Nico (she/her) 12/23/2022 11:46 PM
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We should reach out to these people for help making education resources for doctors and whatnot
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seb it/they 12/26/2022 4:22 PM
interesting...
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i would not recommend following that link
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seb it/they 12/26/2022 4:23 PM
i won't lol
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/26/2022 4:26 PM
weird ass results when i put it in TOR
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(not the link, just a google)
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seb it/they 12/26/2022 4:26 PM
define weird ass results lol
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Looked up the site, the front page is . . . it's a website
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/26/2022 4:27 PM
ok so the actual domain does appear to be some kind of index of fascist groups and other shit (edited)
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but theres a ton of results for other things claiming to be "fascipedia" that metronome between fascist and antifascist
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Jonah Glover 12/26/2022 4:27 PM
They got 845 articles and a clock for Hitler’s birthday
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"antifascistaction9@gmail.com"
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seb it/they 12/26/2022 5:19 PM
i wonder who got antifascistaction 1-8
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/26/2022 5:28 PM
I deleted the email
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robin (they/it) 12/26/2022 5:53 PM
"complaint" lol
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hey I noticed we haven't been contacting democratic party chapters, I think we should do that. They have more money than most of us and may be able to give their reps a better push to oppose the legislation
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I've already added all the ones I've seen to the list of orgs to contact, it's just something I wanted to mention in here too
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Hayden (he/they) 12/28/2022 4:08 PM
I know some DSA members are involved in the state party, I can ask around
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Hayden (he/they) 12/28/2022 4:27 PM
Someone from the cola chapter is getting me in touch with one of the insiders, we can send him official emails and whatnot when I have his contact
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Full disclosure, I'm not too terribly optimistic about this strategy given that SC Dems didn't even bother putting up candidates for state-wide elections in November, but we might as well try
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yeah I think that's a fair assessment I just don't think we should leave stones unturned. Thank you for the work Hayden
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Hayden (he/they) 12/28/2022 5:20 PM
This is the list I was sent
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oh awesome
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thank you Hayden
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Cezar McKnight is a fucking ghoul
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Hayden (he/they) 12/28/2022 5:24 PM
I can start pulling some of that info, I'm guessing we should go for the major counties and any minor ones related to the legislation
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I'm pretty sure trav is party chair for the state or something
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Hayden (he/they)
I can start pulling some of that info, I'm guessing we should go for the major counties and any minor ones related to the legislation
yeah essentially play whip on trans stuff
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oh so we may not get much luck with Oconnee Dems. Hayden Laye is invovled with them and he's on his Gays Against Groomers shit currently
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Hayden (he/they) 12/28/2022 10:04 PM
Ive started working on the media contacts spreadsheet, mostly focusing on Columbia outlets
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Thanks Hayden
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i can work on press releases
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Hayden (he/they) 12/29/2022 10:09 AM
I think the next big event is the start of the legislative session
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How should we prepare for that
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Hayden (he/they) 12/29/2022 10:10 AM
On this front, we should prepare a statement to be sent out to press in the contact sheet
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Hayden (he/they) 12/29/2022 10:26 AM
I put all of the relevant emails I could find in that spreadsheet, I'm sure there's some fancy way to pull all of them and send an email easier
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/29/2022 10:46 AM
we should also be ready to start contacting reps and askign for in person visits with them
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seb it/they 12/31/2022 1:03 PM
Okay so i talked to my grandpa and he gave me some church contacts who I'm going to reach out to when i get back to Columbia
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seb it/they
going to make a new todo for myself/others - add religious organizations to spreadsheet - work on sending emails to each org already listed in spreadsheet - start calling therapists from the list - combine the therapist contact lists -seb: contact church contacts (edited)
okay working on this rn
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for some reason this happened?
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@AthenaTheCommie (she/they) did you do this on purpose?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/02/2023 9:26 AM
No
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seb it/they 01/02/2023 9:57 AM
Huh do you know what happened then?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/02/2023 10:03 AM
i do not
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Hmm does anyone else have access to the drive?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/02/2023 10:03 AM
are people unable to access stuff now?
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Yeah it made like most of the drive unaccessible
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I can fix it i just wanted to figure out what happened so it doesn't happen again
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/02/2023 10:04 AM
i can still access everything on my personal account
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Huh
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ronnie (he/him) 01/03/2023 7:09 PM
sorry just saw this, i uploaded the clips in case athena wanted to edit something with them, took them off just now, sorry it gummed things up
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didn't know it would do that 🥲
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seb it/they 01/03/2023 7:13 PM
Oh that's done it just changed some other access permissions too somehow
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ronnie (he/him) 01/03/2023 7:14 PM
ah alrighty, sorry again 🙏
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i did finish the video for now though, i posted a copy in the social media folder and a link in the tab on here if you want to take a look and give me any feedback
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i added the tl:dr to the orgs to contact sheet, but also wanna share here. i spoke with Gee from HHC about OAT this afternoon. she seemed less than enthused, and immediately started asking if we were affiliated with Soda City Queers/Columbia Bash Back. then she shared some news articles that in her opinion made them look bad. i told her we weren't, but if both orgs show up to something, we weren't going to fight with them while there are fascists to worry about. she then volunteered the information that HHC is coordinating with CPD and other law enforcement against Columbia Bash Back... so... yk i didn't rly have high hopes for HHC but wow is that next level awful
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Victor (they/them) 01/09/2023 1:19 PM
They are such shitbags
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i added the tl:dr to the orgs to contact sheet, but also wanna share here. i spoke with Gee from HHC about OAT this afternoon. she seemed less than enthused, and immediately started asking if we were affiliated with Soda City Queers/Columbia Bash Back. then she shared some news articles that in her opinion made them look bad. i told her we weren't, but if both orgs show up to something, we weren't going to fight with them while there are fascists to worry about. she then volunteered the information that HHC is coordinating with CPD and other law enforcement against Columbia Bash Back... so... yk i didn't rly have high hopes for HHC but wow is that next level awful
Hayden (he/they) 01/09/2023 1:26 PM
Remind me what hhc is again
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Victor (they/them) 01/09/2023 1:26 PM
Harriot Hancock Center
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/09/2023 1:27 PM
fuck that
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jacklyn
i added the tl:dr to the orgs to contact sheet, but also wanna share here. i spoke with Gee from HHC about OAT this afternoon. she seemed less than enthused, and immediately started asking if we were affiliated with Soda City Queers/Columbia Bash Back. then she shared some news articles that in her opinion made them look bad. i told her we weren't, but if both orgs show up to something, we weren't going to fight with them while there are fascists to worry about. she then volunteered the information that HHC is coordinating with CPD and other law enforcement against Columbia Bash Back... so... yk i didn't rly have high hopes for HHC but wow is that next level awful
Hayden (he/they) 01/09/2023 1:28 PM
What news is she even reading?
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she emailed me an article lol
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ill post it hold on
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big mad about the anarchist symbol
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/09/2023 1:29 PM
we have literally sent QBB a single message about IFAKS but of course all the leftist orgs are one big antifa or something etc etc
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Hayden (he/they) 01/09/2023 1:30 PM
I'd love to know their exact issues with the article, and what they plan to do about fascist violence beyond voting and posting
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Did they even respond to the message
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Hayden (he/they)
Did they even respond to the message
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/09/2023 1:31 PM
QBB or HHC
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Hayden (he/they) 01/09/2023 1:32 PM
Qbb about the ifaks, I know a few people in cola who are stb trained who could use equipment
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/09/2023 1:32 PM
yeah i messaging with them and i did get a response, its buried somewhere in mutual aid\
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the short of it is they currently have very minimal funds and are struggling to procure ifaks
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Hayden (he/they)
I'd love to know their exact issues with the article, and what they plan to do about fascist violence beyond voting and posting
she read like 5 articles and their Wikipedia page to me ;-; it was everything from their "communist/anarchist imagery" to their "use of violence" smh
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the lady read me testimonials of ppl who claim to have been "assaulted" by Columbia Bash Back.. so, fashys..? ig
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/09/2023 1:40 PM
sounds like a great person
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 01/09/2023 1:40 PM
So, not wanting to be associated is one thing...actively working with the police is something else
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the lady read me testimonials of ppl who claim to have been "assaulted" by Columbia Bash Back.. so, fashys..? ig
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/09/2023 1:40 PM
im not an expert or involved in the columbia branch but havent they existed for like 3 months (edited)
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where are all these conviently assaulted people coming from i wonder (edited)
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That article makes BB sound cool as hell, tbh
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Max (they/it) 01/09/2023 1:41 PM
the article is literally in support
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also she was rly upset that that a few bash back folx came to the vigil they held at the statehouse a few months ago, and had communist and "racist" imagery on a sign so they "had to recall" their pictures
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/09/2023 1:41 PM
racist????
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lemme go find that banner its all over the articles
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this one????
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thats the sign she was talking about???
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/09/2023 1:43 PM
idk
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its all over qbb page, its the only banner of theirs ive ever seen
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20 dollars this lady has no idea what she's looking at and thought that the hammer and sickle in the middle is something racist
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good chance
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are they at least calling NATO racist too?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/09/2023 1:45 PM
cop lovers when the racism
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also she was rly upset that that a few bash back folx came to the vigil they held at the statehouse a few months ago, and had communist and "racist" imagery on a sign so they "had to recall" their pictures
Hayden (he/they) 01/09/2023 1:45 PM
The one Leon lott attended?
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id assume so
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Hayden (he/they) 01/09/2023 1:46 PM
Gee whiz
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Bash Back! was a network of queer, insurrectionary anarchist cells active in the United States between 2007 and 2011.Formed in Chicago in 2007 to facilitate a convergence of radical trans and gay activists from around the country, Bash Back! sought to critique the ideology of the mainstream LGBT movement, which the group saw as assimilation into...
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I think the organization they’re referencing is a different bash back and they have the two confused since bash back! Only existed until 2011
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So they didn't investigate and are speaking nonsense? Damn, I wonder if anyone wrote something about that. lMao But I suspect their real issue, based on the article they linked, is that they are averse to radical identity politics based movements demanding liberation and want to just do corporatized respectability politics. If I'm right about that then I suspect we are not missing out on too much.
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Especially if they are coordinating with the cops, like holy shit these people are massive libs and I hate them. (with sincere apologies to any liberals here -- we may disagree but you are most certainly not the target of this statement if you are here ❤️ )
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Hayden (he/they) 01/09/2023 3:22 PM
So what does hhc do exactly
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/09/2023 3:22 PM
They’re basically a community center
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And they do some lawyering
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and lobbying
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Hayden (he/they) 01/09/2023 3:22 PM
Neat
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Could be a powerful ally if turned
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But I assume they will do that without our prompting
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they could be but they wont
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/09/2023 3:23 PM
^
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They are a very old org that is very stuck in their ways
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They are explicitly anticommunist lmao
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Hayden (he/they) 01/09/2023 3:24 PM
Ugh I know the type
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they could be but they wont
Hayden (he/they) 01/09/2023 3:24 PM
They haven't said anything about upcoming legislation? (edited)
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Gee told me they're at the statehouse everyday lobbying against it
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Hayden (he/they) 01/09/2023 3:25 PM
The statehouse isn't even open everyday I don't think
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hyperbole
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Hayden (he/they) 01/09/2023 3:25 PM
Ah well, shame
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but even if they're there a lot, imo it's limited effectiveness (edited)
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They are explicitly anticommunist lmao
Matt Cox he/him 01/09/2023 3:45 PM
Explicitly anticommunist worked well for LGBTQ+ folk in the 20s and 30s didn't it? First, we will fight the people with the ideological gumption to fight the people who want to destroy us, then our oppressors will love us, amirite?
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Sorry I'm salty today.
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seb it/they 01/12/2023 8:19 PM
we need to meet with SC united (edited)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/12/2023 8:20 PM
yeah im going to draft an email but i dont have the brainwidth to make it good or ready to send tonight
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
yeah im going to draft an email but i dont have the brainwidth to make it good or ready to send tonight
robin (they/it) 01/12/2023 8:37 PM
brain too skinny
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/12/2023 8:37 PM
so true
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Nico (she/her) 01/14/2023 11:28 PM
Idk if this is on anyone's radar but this might be a group worth connecting with? https://twitter.com/ResistanceTrans/status/1556032700909342721?t=W_hfXhg5Y8tTLiEgLzLYVA&s=19
We are a forming a collective group of people and groups organizing at the grassroots level for trans-survival. Join us! We need volunteers of all kinds as well as those willing to share mutual aid. Visit our temp website to sign up or message us here. https://t.co/SNbgKG2p5w
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Nico (she/her)
Idk if this is on anyone's radar but this might be a group worth connecting with? https://twitter.com/ResistanceTrans/status/1556032700909342721?t=W_hfXhg5Y8tTLiEgLzLYVA&s=19
seb it/they 01/23/2023 6:41 PM
filling out their contact sheet right now :)
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i just put in my personal phone number
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not really sure what to check here
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just checked these boxes bc i think the make the most sense for now
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form sent :)
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just checked these boxes bc i think the make the most sense for now
Nico (she/her) 01/23/2023 7:34 PM
yeah those look good for what we've been doing thus far, thanks seb
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I'm deleting the empty folders from the google drive it's too hard to find shit
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seb it/they 01/31/2023 4:19 PM
Could you actually wait on that
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oops too late
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I can remake them if you would like, it just seems to clutter it to have empty folders
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seb it/they 01/31/2023 4:21 PM
There used to be things in them, it seems they got maliciously or accidentally deleted
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Mods are working on piecing together what happened
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/31/2023 4:43 PM
yeah
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/06/2023 7:30 PM
is anyone in the charleston area familiar with we are family? are they worth reaching out to? i also think they have affirming clothing programs (https://wearefamilycharleston.org/)
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seb it/they 02/06/2023 7:30 PM
they're on our org list afaik
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meaning that at somepoint we decided we wanted to reach out with them
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/06/2023 7:31 PM
cool
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i figure im going to put the mon the website under resources too
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for their free clothes stuff
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seb it/they 02/06/2023 7:31 PM
okay cool
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if you want you can go ahead and write an email to them, i've been meaning to get back to the org emails but have been swamped
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/06/2023 7:34 PM
one day
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They are a good source for clothes. They work with trans and queer youth primarily.
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seb it/they 02/17/2023 9:50 PM
The Trans Formations Project tracks hateful anti-trans bill proposals in the United States and provides actionable information for holding legislators accountable.
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Came across this
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T - Time: Myrtle Beach transgender support group, Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. 266 likes · 2 talking about this. Open Trans Gender support group and discussion forum in Myrtle Beach, SC. We also...
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seb it/they 02/22/2023 1:25 PM
Hello We Are Family, We are Organize Against Transphobia (OAT), a brand new coalition in the Carolinas formed to combat bigotry. We are trans people protecting trans people, and we ask for your support and offer our support in return. We are writing to you now because we need to establish a sta...
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here is a very very rough draft of the email to we are family, if someone could look over it that would be great
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i want to make it shorter and also flow a bit better, just most likely can't finish today
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@organization_outreach
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/22/2023 1:26 PM
giving it a read now
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/22/2023 1:37 PM
got most of my edits on there
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seb it/they 02/22/2023 1:37 PM
cool
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Victor (they/them) 02/22/2023 1:54 PM
okay i added edits and comments as well. Overall, it looks good
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/23/2023 12:33 PM
https://www.gofundme.com/f/upstate-sc-queer-youth-prom Wasn't sure where to put this. I'll also share on socials later today but just wanted to throw this out there.
Please join us in making a difference for Queer Youth! Many queer youth don't have the luxu… Debra Foreman needs your support for Upstate SC Queer Youth Prom
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Uplift Outreach Center is who is putting it on
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James Harley 02/23/2023 12:37 PM
Now I wanna go to prom!
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seb it/they 02/23/2023 4:24 PM
yes I can send it right now if we want
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or better yet schedule it to get sent out tomorrow morning
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email will send tomorrow at 8 am
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Hello T-Time, We are Organize Against Transphobia (OAT), a brand new coalition in the Carolinas formed to combat bigotry. We are trans people protecting trans people, and we ask for your support and offer our support in return. OAT exists as a coalition of organizations opposing anti-queer legis...
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/23/2023 4:35 PM
added an answer to the sole comment
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seb it/they 02/23/2023 4:35 PM
can yall read over this one :)
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@organization_outreach
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/23/2023 4:35 PM
on it
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seb it/they 02/23/2023 4:35 PM
it's a bit shorter, and weaker lol
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i'm tired rn so just kinda wanted to get something together
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think it looks good
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/23/2023 4:38 PM
added one comment and fixed up a spot or two
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was t-time the group that we met at the statehouse?
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seb it/they 02/23/2023 4:39 PM
yes
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/23/2023 4:39 PM
ok cool no more comments from me, looks good
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seb it/they 02/23/2023 5:00 PM
the next big thing we need to do is reach back out to sc united and set up a meeting
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seb it/they
the next big thing we need to do is reach back out to sc united and set up a meeting
pickles- they/them (mel) 02/23/2023 5:01 PM
Anything I do to help?
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seb it/they 02/23/2023 5:02 PM
we've emailed previously, i think it would just be a good idea to get some representitives from oat to sit down with SC united people to figure out if/how the orgs can effectively work together
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i'd prefer that meeting to be open to as many oat members as want to be invovled, but don't know how best to set up a time/date/location that's widely accessible to both OAT people and SC united
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we've emailed previously, i think it would just be a good idea to get some representitives from oat to sit down with SC united people to figure out if/how the orgs can effectively work together
Being blunt, it seems like we're currently working together lol
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seb it/they 02/23/2023 5:03 PM
i mean yes
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lol we should just be more intentional about it
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and establish better communication i think
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pickles- they/them (mel) 02/23/2023 5:04 PM
Ok I’m on sc United steering committee and can help set up a meeting
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seb it/they 02/23/2023 5:04 PM
okay cool, could we do something online?
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do you feel like this meeting would be beneficial? (edited)
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do you feel like this meeting would be beneficial? (edited)
pickles- they/them (mel) 02/23/2023 5:06 PM
What outcomes are we hoping for? I heard better/more intentional communication as one goal.
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I think a meeting would be a step toward that
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seb it/they 02/23/2023 5:07 PM
i think maybe a more reciprocal flow of supporting each other's events
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pickles- they/them (mel) 02/23/2023 5:07 PM
Sure. Are there events that you would like for sc United to support?
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Online would be the easiest to organize i suppose.
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seb it/they 02/23/2023 5:08 PM
i think some of our upcoming mutual aid events could use some support, but i'd have to talk more to everyone, and don't entirely know what SC united could offer functionally
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
is anyone in the charleston area familiar with we are family? are they worth reaching out to? i also think they have affirming clothing programs (https://wearefamilycharleston.org/)
pickles- they/them (mel) 02/23/2023 5:08 PM
I used to run waf lol. And they’re on sc United steering committee
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seb it/they 02/23/2023 5:09 PM
we just sent an email to their director
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or it's scheduled to be sent tomorrow
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pickles- they/them (mel) 02/23/2023 5:11 PM
Ok I can bring it up tomorrow during our steering committee meeting. There’s a full sc United coalition meeting if you wanna join (edited)
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12p
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seb it/they 02/23/2023 5:11 PM
i'm personally going to be busy then, is it okay if we invite all OAT members to join?
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pickles- they/them (mel) 02/23/2023 5:11 PM
Sure
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seb it/they 02/23/2023 5:12 PM
alright, do you have more details about it? I can post an annoucement
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pickles- they/them (mel) 02/23/2023 5:12 PM
Hang on I’m looking…
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Sorry not at my desk
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seb it/they 02/23/2023 5:14 PM
you're fine :) thank you
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pickles- they/them (mel) 02/23/2023 5:14 PM
Want me to announce?
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seb it/they 02/23/2023 5:15 PM
you can if you'd like, but i am at my desk so it may be easier for me to do
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pickles- they/them (mel) 02/23/2023 5:16 PM
Yes!!!!
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Please do and thank you
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seb it/they 02/24/2023 1:16 PM
T-time email scheduled to send on monday morning
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pickles- they/them (mel)
I used to run waf lol. And they’re on sc United steering committee
and they did a very good job
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/27/2023 7:09 PM
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N_jaY_FZkB5R8LLLK_R6jm_a8Ds32RHv8M6yqmKRI9w/edit?usp=sharing @organization_outreach can some people look over this email to WAF? it is a response to the email in the image above.
Hello We Are Family, We will gladly share your Affirming Gear Program with our members. For the potential fundraising, we are reaching out to the Capital Club in Columbia, who have offered to fundraise for LGBTQ programs monthly at drags shows they host. For meetings, we focus on a variety of...
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/27/2023 7:11 PM
I'll look at it shortly!
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Did the WAF response ever get sent
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/01/2023 11:42 AM
i didnt send it
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@Hayden (he/they) what does "dominico" mean
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Hayden (he/they) 03/01/2023 11:43 AM
That's the name of the person who sent the first email
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It would be weird to respond to an email he signed off on with the name of the group
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/01/2023 9:05 PM
Hey, found the orgs list and just had a couple of updates: I will take responsibility for reaching out to Wofford's groups, FNB Upstate, and the groups at Newberry College (for FNB i can reach out individually, the others may need to be OAT email). I also added SC for Ed to the list, and I will also add Lowcountry Action Committee and the SC Housing Justice Network. I'm also curious if y'all think reaching out to labor unions would be worthwhile? I know we have connections to some, and maybe we could ask those members to reach out, but even so, it might be worth it to send out those emails (I do also have a connect to an employee of USSW, if need be). Likewise, I'm on "spring break" half of next week, so I'll see if I can take some initiative on a few others. I didn't realize there were so many on this list, that's my bad. (edited)
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/01/2023 9:28 PM
Also, are any of the Sunrise Movement chapters worth thinking about? I think the one in the Upstate is inactive rn, but I could touch base. Idk what it's like across the state.
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seb it/they 03/01/2023 9:34 PM
Sc for ed is on there already under the education tab (edited)
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Sorry if that wasn't super clear
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I would love to reach out to labor unions!!
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Another really big thing I think personally is a priority is reaching out to lawyers and dovtors
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It's something I plan to work on next week as well (also my spring break)
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Ussw is in here already as well
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Also, are any of the Sunrise Movement chapters worth thinking about? I think the one in the Upstate is inactive rn, but I could touch base. Idk what it's like across the state.
seb it/they 03/01/2023 9:38 PM
I'm not familiar with this org at all, could you explain a bit?
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Lol sorry it's taking me a second to process your message
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They’re a youth org based around climate change if I’m remembering right
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seb it/they 03/01/2023 9:39 PM
oh neat ig
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/01/2023 9:43 PM
Yeah, I don't know much about them, other than they show up places and just annoy the fuck out of ppl. In SC they went to Lindsay Graham's house. I think they came to prominence when they sat outside Nancy Pelosi's office with AOC to talk about the GND. I'm not necessarily very high on them, but if they've had an impact anywhere locally within the state it might be worth it to reach out.
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seb it/they 03/01/2023 9:43 PM
if they're actually doing stuff i really respect that
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and i think that is valuable
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that goes for basically any org
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/01/2023 9:44 PM
I'll see if I can find anything
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seb it/they 03/01/2023 9:44 PM
okay cool
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i really appreciate your help on this
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/01/2023 9:44 PM
Yeah I didn't see the tabs either. Sorry if I added things unnecessarily
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seb it/they 03/01/2023 9:45 PM
it's fine! I just like tabbed spreadsheets bc i'm a spreadsheet nerd
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oh another group i personally would like to reach out to more is therapists/mental health professionals
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/01/2023 10:26 PM
Hmm...okay. I can always ask my therapist lol. I also have a friend who is a therapist in NC, I'll talk to her and see if she has any suggestions. I also do know one (1) lawyer in the Upstate, and may have connections to a few. I can ask around and see if I can come up with anything. There's also SC Appleseed if we don't have them added.
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What exactly would you want me to talk to them about?
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if the law passes we will need people who can write HRT letters
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but also this community just needs accessible mental health support and having therapists directly invovled seems like one of many good ways to make that possible
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also professionals like lawyers, mental health care providers, and doctors may have more sway with legilators
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pickles- they/them (mel) 03/02/2023 12:57 PM
864Pride, amaryllis counseling works out of pridelink in the upstate. It’s a bunch of queer and trans therapists (edited)
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idk that's my thinking on wanting therapists/lawyers/docs
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pickles- they/them (mel)
864Pride, amaryllis counseling works out of pridelink in the upstate. It’s a bunch of queer and trans therapists (edited)
i'll add them to the spreadsheet to contact thanks
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/02/2023 1:00 PM
Sounds good 👍
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Also, great timing lol
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seb it/they 03/02/2023 1:01 PM
in sync lol
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pickles- they/them (mel) 03/02/2023 1:02 PM
Haha YES! I feel like we’re starting to get our shit together
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seb it/they 03/02/2023 1:03 PM
Slowly but surely
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N_jaY_FZkB5R8LLLK_R6jm_a8Ds32RHv8M6yqmKRI9w/edit?usp=sharing @organization_outreach can some people look over this email to WAF? it is a response to the email in the image above.
seb it/they 03/03/2023 7:57 PM
this email is scheduled to send on monday morning!
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i think it could be a cool idea to try to get an email blast sent out by monday morning
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like just go on a spree of contacting a lot of orgs and pushing to get more interconnected
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 8:00 PM
what all else is on the list?
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 8:01 PM
Organizations Organization,Contacted?,Contact Person,Status,Email,Phone,Website,Social Media ACLU,athena,working against bill with SC United for Justice and Equality AIGA SC,https://southcarolina.aiga.org/contact-us/ Alliance for Full Acce...
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this is our outreach spreadsheet
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i can't find the generic letter to mental health professionals we wrote
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@Nico (she/her) @AthenaTheCommie (she/they) i think y'all were involved in that do you know where it got to?
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 8:22 PM
I wrote this email to reach out to chapters of the NAACP, i would love extra eyes on it! https://docs.google.com/document/d/10WkZpTJ04WNir_nZW_Et3-CSnDTjXsRXAQsYIgO6_c0/edit?usp=sharing @organization_outreach (edited)
Hello X NAACP, We are Organize Against Transphobia (OAT), a brand new coalition in the Carolinas formed to combat bigotry. We are trans people protecting trans people, and we ask for your support and offer our support in return. OAT exists as a coalition of organizations opposing anti-queer legi...
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/03/2023 8:29 PM
Awesome! Idk if y'all saw the Dwayne Wade/Gabrielle Union speech at the NAACP awards but I'd been thinking it might be good to prioritize them
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I'll check it out when this storm passes and I can bring it up on my computer
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@Nico (she/her) @AthenaTheCommie (she/they) i think y'all were involved in that do you know where it got to?
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/03/2023 8:29 PM
Our email folder was one of the ones deleted, ill look for the email
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 8:30 PM
Hello X Food Not Bombs, We are Organize Against Transphobia (OAT), a brand new coalition in the Carolinas formed to combat bigotry. We are trans people and queer allies protecting trans people, and we ask for your support and offer our support in return. OAT exists as a coalition of organization...
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here's another one to contact all the food not bombs people would love more eyes
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A-A-Ron (they/them)
Awesome! Idk if y'all saw the Dwayne Wade/Gabrielle Union speech at the NAACP awards but I'd been thinking it might be good to prioritize them
seb it/they 03/03/2023 8:30 PM
i'm not familiar with this, could you explain/link it?
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/03/2023 8:31 PM
They have a trans child. Let me see if I can find a tweet
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My service is awful so trying to send a video might be a lot
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 8:31 PM
oh neat
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 8:31 PM
oh thanks ren
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:)
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np!
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I hope the weather improves Aaron!!
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Nvm that was easy lol
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 8:34 PM
this is going to make me cry ;-;
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Hello X Democratic People Idk, We are Organize Against Transphobia (OAT), a brand new coalition in the Carolinas formed to combat bigotry. We are trans people and queer allies protecting trans people, and we ask for your support and offer our support in return. OAT exists as a coalition of organ...
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okay another one for dems
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i feel a lot less confident about this one
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/03/2023 8:39 PM
Yeah, rich people giving speeches is...ya know, rich people giving speeches. But it hits the points and is very powerful.
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 8:39 PM
i also just cry very easily lol
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i also just cry very easily lol
A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/03/2023 8:39 PM
Me too lol
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 8:40 PM
i'm just going to keep editing these emails for each specific group, and then make a compliation post with all the ones i do
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it's so weird not having homework urgently due lol (edited)
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/03/2023 8:43 PM
I have reached out to a comrade in Upstate FNB, we're chatting, I'll see if any member wants to join the Discord. If there's any specific ask lmk. But y'all don't need to worry about sending them an email.
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 8:44 PM
i'll check them off of the spreadsheet
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/03/2023 8:44 PM
They have a great community up there. Just a little smaller than they'd like. But they're on the ground doing good work
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 8:45 PM
oop i already did!
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look at me lol
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or maybe you did
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/03/2023 8:45 PM
Lol that was me
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 8:51 PM
Hello DOCTOR NAME, We are Organize Against Transphobia (OAT), a brand new coalition in the Carolinas formed to combat bigotry. We are trans people and queer allies protecting trans people, and we ask for your support and offer our support in return. OAT exists as a coalition of organizations opp...
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new doctor email
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Hello THERAPIST NAME, We are Organize Against Transphobia (OAT), a brand new coalition in the Carolinas formed to combat bigotry. We are trans people and queer allies protecting trans people, and we ask for your support and offer our support in return. OAT exists as a coalition of organizations ...
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therapist email
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lol i am fucking going hopefully these aren't all horrible
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Hello LAWYER NAME/LAW FIRM NAME, We are Organize Against Transphobia (OAT), a brand new coalition in the Carolinas formed to combat bigotry. We are trans people and queer allies protecting trans people, and we ask for your support and offer our support in return. OAT exists as a coalition of org...
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lawyer email
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i'm actually crashing now time for a compilation post
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/03/2023 9:02 PM
I'm sure they aren't. Thank you and keep that engine going, I understand how you can just get that energy to push things out. A template is better than doing it from scratch, at least for me.
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:02 PM
yes for certain, and these are basically all slightly edited versions of the same template
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Big ol’ warning, don’t read that comment section unless rampant transphobia really doesn’t faze you
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Bernie
Big ol’ warning, don’t read that comment section unless rampant transphobia really doesn’t faze you
same thing with the shaderoom comments everytime they post about her.
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Basically any media that allows for comments is bound to be a cesspool on topics like these
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the fact people can be so hateful to a young girl is un fathomable
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/03/2023 9:14 PM
i will give everything a look over
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sometime
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i just got back from robotics : (
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the fact people can be so hateful to a young girl is un fathomable
I had to read Fox News comments sections regularly for a few months for a project (just political science fun ✨), and even to me these comments are among the worst I’ve seen on mainstream media outlets. It was a lovely speech and the commenters entirely miss the point. I wish the sheer comfortable ignorance and flippancy with which they dismiss the humanity of trans people was more shocking, but it just feels like business as usual and that kinda definitely really sucks.
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 9:16 PM
what a terrible fucking project concept
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/03/2023 9:16 PM
common poli sci L
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common poli sci L
This tbh
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 9:17 PM
you better werk with all those emails tho seb! great great work
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:17 PM
i welcome and encourage gramatical and content nitpicking
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my dyslexic ass cannot edit effectively so i really need help lol
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 9:19 PM
i didn’t realize we were a coalition of organizations; but now that i think about it there’s a lot of overlapping circles in here huh
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cade (he/him)
what a terrible fucking project concept
oof yeah no, it was very interesting but very bad. It was a class on the interactions between media and public opinion and the policy process. That same professor later offered me the chance to join a research project scraping Twitter for a project on foreign policy and I straight up had to refuse (edited)
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cade (he/him)
i didn’t realize we were a coalition of organizations; but now that i think about it there’s a lot of overlapping circles in here huh
seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:20 PM
yep we're weird in that we're both a coalition of people and orginizations, basically the only rule is if you agree with the points of unity and want to stop transphobes then you're in :)
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i welcome and encourage gramatical and content nitpicking
Are the increasing link indents on the bill texts intentional?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/03/2023 9:21 PM
yes
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i cannot for the life of me read coinciding URLs
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 9:23 PM
as far as i can tell these emails all hold up in grammar and consistency, especially the recycled first halves
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i mean it was written right once so naturally
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:24 PM
yeah i'm mostly concerned about the changed bits
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/03/2023 9:24 PM
i am gonna make the last h3730 URL legiscan so its consistent
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On the first 243 bullet, should it be “state” and not “state’s”?
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seb it/they
yeah i'm mostly concerned about the changed bits
cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 9:24 PM
those hold up too as far as i can tell; but i’m probably not the best proofreader 😭
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I might be reading wrong, midterms have my brain soft and sad
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:25 PM
lol that's why there's a lot of us, together it will be edited good enough
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seb it/they
yeah i'm mostly concerned about the changed bits
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/03/2023 9:25 PM
yeah i have some major concerns about the lawyer one. basically i think we need to reformat out ask. it doesnt really make sense to just ask lawyers to come into the discord, i think we need to target historically trans-friendly lawyers, and then basically ask them to leave contact info with us so we can direct people to them. i just dont want to end up with a blob of people in the discord who are only here as potential services
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ill look over the others later and see if the same issue is there
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:25 PM
i want them to show up to events and meetings so people actually know them
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/03/2023 9:25 PM
ig
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idfk what lawyers do lol
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im imagining a bunch of old people in suits who wont talk to us
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 9:26 PM
maybe take the discord out of it? we can just keep them posted on meetings if they request or are open to it?
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:26 PM
lawyers also have other orgnizational skills which are helpful for like mutual aid and not just law stuff
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We have their contact, we could always invite them to things without having to be here? (edited)
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:26 PM
tbh i think this discord is where the most stuff is getting done?
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idk
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We have their contact, we could always invite them to things without having to be here? (edited)
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/03/2023 9:26 PM
i dont want to email people every time we have a thing
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 9:26 PM
that’s a good point too
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/03/2023 9:27 PM
its already a lot of work keeping track of everything we have going on
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 9:27 PM
the pros and cons are both proing and conning on this one
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:27 PM
i honestly think that having more people in here would not hurt
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like
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as long as they aren't fash
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/03/2023 9:27 PM
yeah
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i had some ideas on how to improve the workflow after you left the meeting
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:27 PM
ah i've not heard those
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/03/2023 9:29 PM
which is more or less to increase the amount of filtering between roles like @.organization_outreach so that only people who opt into these roles see the majority of working channels. it basically allows us to maintain a community of people who can utilize all the resources we conglomerate, but we have a more concrete and centralized group of people who have volunteered to do stuff
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:29 PM
fair lol i just want to reduce barries to entry for doing stuff
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whcih adding additional roles etc might make that harder
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/03/2023 9:29 PM
this was as an alternative to kicking out people who didnt do anything which i heavily am against
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:30 PM
i also really do not have the energy to discuss this rn, my chronic illness is kicking my ass and typing words is getting more and more difficult
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/03/2023 9:30 PM
yeah
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ill present this again later
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i need to work it out
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This is also true. I’m not sure what it’s like for older professionals, but another thing I wonder is how people who might be interested who are doctors and lawyers and therapists and things would feel about discord? Would they have/be willing to make an account? Or know what it is, even. The idea of an email list or something to keep people up to date if they sign up might be something to explore? I’m not very tech-knowing about things, so take what I say with many salt grains. A whole shaker, a whole mine.
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:31 PM
i think we should still at least offer lol
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like offering a link won't help, we've got older people in here who have succesfully learned how to use discord
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at the very least establishing some sort of positive contact is good either way
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Definitely all cool people use discord, and all people who support trans rights are cool, it should be fine
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 9:32 PM
discord’s also the best app imo for straight up communication that’s not as shady as whatsapp or kik
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:32 PM
even if it's just superifically over email i'm pro that
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also we already have collected emails and record what type of responses we get in the spreadsheet
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 9:32 PM
god i love spreadsheets
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:32 PM
so if we got a positive response but no discord join that would be documented for the future
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 9:32 PM
data >>>
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cade (he/him)
discord’s also the best app imo for straight up communication that’s not as shady as whatsapp or kik
This is very true, and I know it’s grown a lot, I just don’t know how far past “that silly gamer chat app” it’s gone for most people not on it who have heard about it
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/03/2023 9:33 PM
im thinking about moving USC's robotics org to discord
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 9:33 PM
also true
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/03/2023 9:33 PM
its just more efficient
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:33 PM
i don't think it's really feasibile for us to move from discord at this point
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 9:34 PM
i’d imagine most robotics ppl probably already have accounts too
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:34 PM
like we can and should do more non discord stuff, in person events etc
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
im thinking about moving USC's robotics org to discord
The fact a stem-focused group isn’t using discord Disgraceful Be the hero your team deserves
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:34 PM
i don't have the energy to write out like a weekly email or something
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cade (he/him)
i’d imagine most robotics ppl probably already have accounts too
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/03/2023 9:34 PM
the only hold out is our 65 year old engineering mentor yes
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:34 PM
but that could be a solution
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i just simply am already doing all i can
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i am very overloaded currently
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seb it/they
i don't think it's really feasibile for us to move from discord at this point
Oh no, I am definitely not saying that 💀
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/03/2023 9:36 PM
if anything ever needs to get done just ping me and ill probably do it within 24hrs
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im just usually doing stuff during the day
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:36 PM
yeah that's not directed at you athena, i just think a core people are doing most of the work
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and we're all getting burnt out
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/03/2023 9:37 PM
lol i havent been to food prep in like 2 months : (
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:37 PM
and there are 200+ people in here so that should not be the case, so we need to get those people involved and also not add more to our own plates at the same time
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/03/2023 9:37 PM
yeah
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im gonna go eepy
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:37 PM
nini eep well
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Sorry for not doing more tbh. After Birdcage is done and the legislature isn’t in their busy season, I will hopefully have more time to focus on things like oat and sleep and such.
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:38 PM
yeah i'm not trying to like guilt trip you bernie
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i honestly don't think you need to apologize
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Lol it’s okay, you’re not guilt tripping, I just look forward to the day when I have more time and mental energy to focus on working on things that aren’t my mandatory work things If that made any sense
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:40 PM
yes definately
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i hope you get that
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Slay, I’m so eloquent
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:40 PM
i also really really want to emphasize, i want the work that OAT does to be sustainable over a long time
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no one should be burning themself out to work on OAT
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I feel like getting everything started is a huge hurdle. There’s so much work to be done now, being only a few months old and trying to establish connections and put systems in place to make future work easier. But over time those systems and having done to work to get things in place will make it easier and less consistently labor intensive like it is now, no?
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:46 PM
yes definately
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 9:47 PM
i know i’m relatively new and not really as involved yet; but i really wanna help more when i can so if y’all ever need extra hands or eyes or- you get the idea, another person 💀 i can always see what i can do for what it’s worth
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:47 PM
yeah
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 9:47 PM
cause it’s not fair for 20ish ppl to be carrying the weight of a 200 person org
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:47 PM
i would really reccommend you look at the todo list tbh
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/03/2023 9:47 PM
the best thing people can do is just start knocking stuff off the to-do list
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:47 PM
like there's a ton of stuff on there that i just need to start
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/03/2023 9:47 PM
ask for help if you need it, but pick stuff and just go
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 9:47 PM
lemme go take a looksie
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:47 PM
and i've found that starting the task is the best way to get people to help
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and pinging people
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/03/2023 9:47 PM
^^^^^^
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 9:48 PM
sorry where’s the todo list 💀
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:48 PM
generally how i've gotten things done is - do the bare minimum to start a task - ping people and ask them to help me finish the task - follow up to make sure it gets done (edited)
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tends to work
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Legislature outreach set up a meeting with democratic caucus first get into contact with LGBTQ caucus (email in spreadsheet) email sent seb 2/8 make a short 5 minute presentation about how we would be affected contact the heads of each committee and meet with them about OAT and the bills send hay...
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if you need drive access lmk
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i think the todo is a bit out of date too and need help updating it a bit
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 9:54 PM
oh these are
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these are like real down to business type things
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:55 PM
yes lol
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 9:55 PM
as they should be ofc, there’s a lot of real business to be done here
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:55 PM
if you need any explanation let me know
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 9:58 PM
lemme dm you a couple questions as to 1) not flood the chats even more than i have and 2) make sure i understand some of these tasks
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:59 PM
okay sure
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you're not flooding the chats by being invovled, it's fine to ask them pubically if you want
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 10:03 PM
oh okay
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so just going down the list from the top down: 1. this 5 minute presentation for the democratic caucus should be like a powerpoint or google slides right? that highlights all of the key points of how these bills would affect trans ppl both directly and indirectly? 2. we still need email scripts for the house and senate right? and those could likely be loose rewrites of the phone scripts adjusted more appropriately in slightly different context? 3. how would a support system for designated rep meeters work? like a group chat or more of a text this number when you need it? are there already a number of ppl who have agreed to be designated rep meeters?
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yeah if you have a question there's a good chance other people might have the same question
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although i'm getting ready for bed so i might respond like tomorrow morning
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 10:04 PM
oh no worries, i’m busy for the next day or two anyways so none of the answers would be needed until then anyways
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1. yep, the USSW did a similiar presentation, oliva just linked a similar thing in #agit-prop that we're working on currently, we emailed the caucus but didn't get a response but will be presenting to other groups
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(oh also feel free to edit the todo list to make these things more clear, as i said i think it's a bit out of date)
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2. yes we need email scripts, yes this would be ideal
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3. we honestly haven't figured any of this out yet
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or at least not that i'm aware of for 3
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 10:06 PM
meeting face to face with reps and having prepared points and the wits to have fast on your feet remarks and answers does seem very hard
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yeah some people have done it well in here, personally that type of action is not my thing, so i know less about it
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 10:07 PM
i understand, i’ll eye the presentation olivia has worked on and probably work on drafts for the email scripts more than anything in the next few days
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 10:08 PM
thank you for da answers!! i’ll lyk how my little workin on this stuff goes
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here's the message link to the presentation
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feel free at any point to ask more questions in here, and we'll do our best to sort things out
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(dms are also fine for me)
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Bernie
This is very true, and I know it’s grown a lot, I just don’t know how far past “that silly gamer chat app” it’s gone for most people not on it who have heard about it
This is a major failing in discords branding. They have a really powerful app with a lot of functionality but it's so juvenile. I'm still young and I find it annoying how it presents itself
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Hey, do we know of groups in other states doing similar types of work to what we do? I've been trying to do outreach and engagement with people in other queer spaces hoping to get more people involved and I have found people who want to get involved, but so far I haven't been able to point people in any direction other than "get in touch with queer/left-wing organizations in your area".
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cade (he/him) 03/12/2023 8:03 AM
scunited off the top of my head
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Sam McKenzie 03/12/2023 10:51 AM
I'm not too sure about other states. I have some friends that are really vocal about NC bills, I can ask them
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cade (he/him) 03/12/2023 11:10 AM
oh i’m so dumb i didn’t read other states at all 💀
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seb it/they 03/12/2023 9:38 PM
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this was sent a bit ago, i didn't see it bc i was in the woods
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Sam McKenzie 03/13/2023 11:03 AM
@drhead my activist friends in Charlotte say that Transcend is a charity in NC that fights for trans rights (but their political expression is limited bc of their 501c3 status), and Gender Education Network works with trans families and youth. They say they don't know of any grassroots orgs in NC doing similar work to ours, though
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We should have a few people who can speak at some venues about this group. Could one of the @Moderator or anyone who feels comfortable speaking publicly do a bit of public speaking this Sunday at Hideout drag brunch to talk about and represent oatsc.org? Pass out some stickers, exchange contact info, offer mutual support and defensive bodies for any event they may put on? @Sam McKenzie can announce you. (edited)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/14/2023 7:13 PM
it would be best to extend this beyond moderators (edited)
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anyone whose been working here knows about as much as we do
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I mean just anyone really but I don't know the tags lol
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/14/2023 7:14 PM
we dont really have a tag for that yeah
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I would but as a cishet white-presenting man, idk if I'd be the right person for speaking on oatsc
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Also I'm in GA this weekend
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seb it/they 03/15/2023 6:54 AM
I'm willing to go if someone else comes with me
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@Midlands SC who would be willing to go with me
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What time is the brunch?
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i might be able
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if it ends before 11 i can
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pickles- they/them (mel) 03/15/2023 9:25 AM
I’ll need first and last names. Dm if uncomfortable sharing in the group?
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seb it/they 03/15/2023 9:25 AM
(did you mean to post in #legislature-and-representatives)
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pickles- they/them (mel) 03/15/2023 9:26 AM
It should end by 10:30
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There’s a press conference at 12:30 at the statehouse
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What time is the brunch?
Sam McKenzie 03/15/2023 2:44 PM
There's two shows, one at 10am and another at 1230! I'll be there, I'm hosting the brunches. You could come to either or both, and we could talk about OAT at whatever time you can be there, it's totally flexible
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seb it/they 03/15/2023 5:42 PM
i can definately go to the one at 12:30
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what all would like talking be like? I've actually never been to a drag event like that
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i'm a bit worried about covid exposure too, i'm immunocompromised and it's probably a lot of people
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I probably can speak (edited)
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i can make the 10am one but id need to leave by like 10:30?? might not be ideal
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yeah I'm just assuming if I did the 10 am one I would have to miss prep, but I think that's probably alright
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seb it/they 03/15/2023 5:47 PM
i've still got posters printed out
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id be trying to do both but i could miss prep too
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depends on the headcount for that day
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do you have anything you need to bring Sunday? you could leave it with me on Friday and then I can make sure it gets there on sunday
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no was just going to be another hand
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Sam McKenzie 03/15/2023 7:45 PM
There's a large backstage space that's separate from the crowd, and only performers are back there, and it's super spaced out, so feel free to stay back there to avoid too much exposure. The mic will be set up in the corner, so you don't have to be close to the crowd to speak
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seb it/they 03/15/2023 7:45 PM
Okay I will do that, that you
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Is there any way I could also have a chair available? I have some mobility concerns
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Sam McKenzie 03/15/2023 7:46 PM
If anyone can bring OAT stickers or anything printed that can be passed out, I think that would make a great impression!
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seb it/they 03/15/2023 7:46 PM
I will bring trans flag stickers and posters
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Sam McKenzie 03/15/2023 7:50 PM
As far as accessibility goes, that is our hugest and only gripe with this venue. It's not accessible enough, and the space we use is up a flight of stairs. Both of our DJs are disabled, and it just so happens that two people in our cast have mobility issues as well, so we're getting creative this time around as almost everyone putting on the show will face difficulty getting up the stairs. I wish I had a better response to that. We're bringing it up to the owner and trying to offer solutions, and we hope he'll listen
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But yes, absolutely can do a chair
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seb it/they 03/15/2023 7:51 PM
Okay, if it would help to have an extra voice on that I can contribute my input to thay
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Always willing to help my disabled siblings fight to make places better for us
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depends on the headcount for that day
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/16/2023 2:03 PM
i was intending to return to prep/distro on sunday, so you could probably skip
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i would need a ride though cause my car is going to the shop sunday
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pickles- they/them (mel) 03/16/2023 6:08 PM
Hey do y’all want me to add the oat logo to the meet me at the statehouse graphic? Y’all have been to every one lol
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seb it/they 03/16/2023 6:09 PM
I'm fine with that
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seb it/they 03/18/2023 8:12 PM
I am in an email sending mood, going to start doing stuff to send out on monday
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setting up doctor emails to send out monday morning
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seb it/they 03/18/2023 8:32 PM
emails for all doctors in the spreadsheet with emails listed, emails are scheduled to send on monday morning
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cade (he/him) 03/18/2023 8:32 PM
thank you seb!!
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can i add my therapist to the email list
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seb it/they 03/18/2023 8:39 PM
yep
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they just might be in here, idk if you're comfortable with taht
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idk what to do with therapists names
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like i don't want to use their full name, using their first name seems a little presumptious, but calling them ms or mr or whatever seems like a quick way to misgender someone
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full name it is
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seb it/they 03/18/2023 9:10 PM
okie emails scheduled to be sent
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robin (they/it) 03/18/2023 9:56 PM
yay good job
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Sam McKenzie
If anyone can bring OAT stickers or anything printed that can be passed out, I think that would make a great impression!
seb it/they 03/19/2023 7:29 AM
So unfortunately I can't come today, I've got an apartment tour that got moved to the same time
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Other people are able to make the 12 one right?
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seb it/they 03/19/2023 8:38 AM
@Olivia @jacklyn are either of y'all going to both times
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i am not
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im also very low on stickers period
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Hayden (he/they) 03/19/2023 8:45 AM
We should have enough hands for prep and distro if you want to do both
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im already committed as someone's ride, so i wont be able to make it
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i might be able
Hayden (he/they) 03/19/2023 8:58 AM
Are you still available?
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not anymore sorry
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Hayden (he/they) 03/19/2023 9:32 AM
Not to shift gears, but do we know what's going on with the tabling at yallmart?
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We just need to make sure we can cover the whole time. I can take the later few hours
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i can help
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Hayden (he/they) 03/19/2023 9:34 AM
Okay the event is 1-5, I can get 3-5 at least
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Do we know what's going on the table? I was thinking leftovers from the clothing swap if we have any
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stickers definitely
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maybe flyers
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I have no stickers or flyers or anything, I can probably make it to the one at 12:30 if someone can get me details
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Olivia
I have no stickers or flyers or anything, I can probably make it to the one at 12:30 if someone can get me details
https://discord.com/channels/1050225973477515356/1051217908447064174/1085339468397023302 Starts here and goes down, it’s a drag brunch at The Hideout as far as I know
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/19/2023 10:13 AM
i have a small amount of stickers but i have no vehicle currently
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i have a bunch of stickers, and can print posters, someone would just need to come and get them
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I can come get them, print a bunch of flyers (edited)
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When are you leaving for your tour?
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11:30
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@jacklyn can you grab stuff and bring it to prep
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Are you good on people for the 12:30? I’d need a ride, but I can be available
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posters printing
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I don't have time to go into it a lot right now but I really feel like we should've been more coordinated on this in advance. If we're going to hand out flyers and whatnot, we need to print them out earlier and know how it's getting there
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i was going to handle it, and had flyers printed out in advance, but my appointment got changed last minute and i realized it was teh flyers with the wrong QR code
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so that's my fault, sorry (edited)
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Hayden (he/they) 03/19/2023 10:51 AM
I think it's also a collective failure to A. know definitively who is going to be where and when and B. making sure resources are spread out so the people going can do the outreach well
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A good learning experience ahead of the tabling next week
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yeah, i feel a bit frustrated because i have been trying to distribute posters and stickers, and then people have been forgetting that they asked, or not following up with me so they've never actually gotten them also i am not the only person with the ability to print posters, or distribute stickers
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Bernie
Are you good on people for the 12:30? I’d need a ride, but I can be available
I won't have time to come pick you up but I should be fine on my own. Thank you for volunteering
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Sam McKenzie 03/19/2023 10:59 AM
I'll post the flyer for info @Olivia
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It's at the Hideput in WeCo, on State Street
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1230 will be a much better time to come anyway bc there will be more people there
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Most people at 10am already know and are pretty politically involved already
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Cool, how do you want me to get in? I definitely can't afford a ticket lol
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Sam McKenzie 03/19/2023 11:06 AM
Dw, door person is expecting you, you won't have to pay!
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seb it/they
yeah, i feel a bit frustrated because i have been trying to distribute posters and stickers, and then people have been forgetting that they asked, or not following up with me so they've never actually gotten them also i am not the only person with the ability to print posters, or distribute stickers
Hayden (he/they) 03/19/2023 12:15 PM
If you'd like to print out like 100 posters and hand them off with stickers, I don't mind holding onto a stash here since my place is frequented a lot
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Currently Jacklyn has all my stickers but I'm more than willing to do that
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I have the oat stickers now (edited)
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i still have the roll
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Hayden (he/they)
If you'd like to print out like 100 posters and hand them off with stickers, I don't mind holding onto a stash here since my place is frequented a lot
I need to bring you like 250 stickers and the key to the ice chest, found it on my spice rack the other day 🤣🤣
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Hayden (he/they) 03/19/2023 12:44 PM
Oh lmao
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I wondered where that got to
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It's been like a year
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Hayden (he/they) 03/19/2023 12:47 PM
I figure since multiple people have a key to mine I can leave the stash in a spot multiple people can get at
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I'll print posters now :)
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Hayden (he/they) 03/19/2023 4:15 PM
Would you be able to hand them off at the oat-luck? I got the stickers this afternoon
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seb it/they 03/19/2023 4:17 PM
yes
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How did the brunches go?
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Sam McKenzie 03/19/2023 6:49 PM
Great! Olivia talked about OAT and its work at the 1230 one, and everyone got a flyer and a sticker. I also hung up one of the flyers on the community board in the cafe downstairs
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The crowd was like 40% trans people, and they seemed really engaged. We did a little trivia thing later on to educate about the bills being pushed rn, and they were engaged in that too
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/19/2023 6:58 PM
That's awesome, great job on that everyone!
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Glad to hear that it went really well, I think that's an effective way to keep things growing is communication with the affected community and supporters to increase engagement and commitment. Some of those people are sure to join the discord or pay attention to events and show up, tell their friends. Big W for the Coalition I think
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seb it/they 03/20/2023 7:04 AM
Yo we really need to work on coordinating tabling, we need a table, maybe like stuff printed out for donations (funneling funds to WAF? that other fundraiser they sent us) stickers, maybe some cool zines/easy to pass out info on what's going on
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Hayden (he/they) 03/20/2023 8:04 AM
I looked back at the messages sent you Jacklyn, seems like yallmart will have a table for us
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I'm thinking 100 fliers, 100 info sheets, stickers, and any leftover gender affirming clothes from the previous day
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can we add any zines we want to the mix
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i dont think we have any oat zines on hand rn
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do we have zines already to print bc i can print a bunch
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not to my knowledge
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i can make one
08:13
what info do we need
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maybe like name, description of oat, stuff about what we've done so far and plan to do, and the bills we're fighting against
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ok i’ll work on copy today
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ty!
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seb it/they 03/20/2023 8:23 AM
I think we should have a qr code to domate to the trans love fund and whoever else needs it too
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yeah, front or back of the zine?
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seb it/they 03/20/2023 8:27 AM
I was thinking just on the table
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random thought, would it be worth making a link.tree account to link to
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oh
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OH
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yea
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seb it/they 03/20/2023 8:27 AM
But anywhere on the zine is fine
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We also already have a link tree
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nice
08:28
which channel
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oh nice i found the to do list
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seb it/they 03/20/2023 8:29 AM
Pinned in #social-media
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okie ty
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Is this posted already anywhere
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Its an archive of queer zines and it appears to have a lot of them
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Hayden (he/they) 03/22/2023 9:09 AM
chloesalsameda
A new billboard located off I-385 is intended to promote a message of inclusion and acceptance, according to the organization Alliance for Full Acceptance (AFFA).
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seb it/they 03/22/2023 9:10 AM
they're on our spreadsheet
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Hayden (he/they) 03/22/2023 9:10 AM
Nice
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seb it/they 03/22/2023 9:10 AM
p sure we've sent them an email already, feel free to check
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Hayden (he/they) 03/22/2023 9:13 AM
I didn't spot them on the org spreadsheet and I didn't see an email to them. I can add them to it soon
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seb it/they 03/22/2023 9:14 AM
oh huh
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one sec
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Hayden (he/they) 03/22/2023 9:14 AM
I could just be missing something
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seb it/they 03/22/2023 9:14 AM
at some point i think lynnie dmed me a more specific email for them
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it's there, i highlighted it,
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Harper (they/she) 03/22/2023 9:27 AM
I have also seen one of these billboards on I-126 btw
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Prescott (he/they) 03/22/2023 4:34 PM
Really glad they at least got two comments from LGBT orgs to outweigh the nasty from the Laurens county GOP
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seb it/they 03/23/2023 8:07 AM
I want more furries in the org, going to reach out to some of my local friends
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Roxy she/her 03/23/2023 2:21 PM
@miss altava and I are furries!
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miss altava 03/23/2023 2:22 PM
🐱
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seb it/they 03/23/2023 2:23 PM
owo
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Do you have any ties to other local furries? I know a few but they moved
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I'm also a furry :33
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miss altava 03/23/2023 2:24 PM
I'm in a couple furry telegram chats for SC and the midlands
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seb it/they 03/23/2023 2:25 PM
I used to be in palmetto state furs
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It would be cool if you could say something about oat
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miss altava 03/23/2023 2:25 PM
Ok yeah I can do that
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I'm not super active in there but I've been to a couple meet ups
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seb it/they 03/23/2023 2:26 PM
Cool our link tree is pinned in #social-media
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/23/2023 2:29 PM
uwu
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Hayden (he/they) 03/23/2023 6:41 PM
Like I said after the event, Liv and I gave our contact to the p&c journalist on the ground, I assume that might get shared around
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/23/2023 6:43 PM
im willing to give my name and number
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if anyone else wants to shre theirs let us know
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WhichWitch17 03/23/2023 6:44 PM
im also willing if its needed
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seb it/they 03/23/2023 6:45 PM
can y'all give me your info in dms / write an email for me to respond with
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/23/2023 6:45 PM
i can put a draft in the drive
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seb it/they 03/23/2023 6:45 PM
i've got a migraine and am about to go to the potluck so it might take me a second but it would be nice to have something sent by tomorrow morning
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/23/2023 6:45 PM
excuse me, ill put it directly in the gmail
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theres a draft email reponse now (edited)
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seb it/they 03/23/2023 6:52 PM
okay @Hayden (he/they) can you dm athena actually since she wrote the response
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/23/2023 6:52 PM
yeah thats fine
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anyone can dm me and ill send it out
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Hayden (he/they) 03/23/2023 6:52 PM
Oh yeah sure
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/23/2023 8:13 PM
email sent with all names i received on it
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uwu id love to connect with the local furry community
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Atticus (he/him) 03/24/2023 7:04 AM
I have been attempting to connect with the local furry community for years and have only met exactly one other fursuiter/fursuit maker (DeadlyCreations) in Columbia. But they’re very cool and typically show up at various pride events, so I might see if they’re interested in joining here.
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seb it/they 03/24/2023 8:26 AM
Please do!!
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seb it/they
I want more furries in the org, going to reach out to some of my local friends
I'm Also a furry and a fursuit maker!
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seb it/they 03/25/2023 9:26 AM
:3 hai, invite anyone else you think would be cool
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yoo im a new furry! would love to connect with others
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i forgot this ones name but they were very cool
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char
yoo im a new furry! would love to connect with others
Atticus (he/him) 03/25/2023 10:20 AM
Yo, if you ever want to chat about furry shit, I am always open to it. I’ve been a fur for over a decade and I would love to know more in the area.
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we desperately desperately desperate need to be doing more outreach again, especially to NAACP and Black groups
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seb it/they 03/27/2023 1:26 PM
i've got the email written
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it literally just needs to get sent
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/edited
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Hayden (he/they) 03/27/2023 1:26 PM
I'm off work today, I can help with that
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seb it/they 03/27/2023 1:26 PM
it's pinned in messages here along with lawyer emails, dems emails etc
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ray also sent me the email of the voice coach iris used, i need help writing an email for that/will work on it after thursday
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if anyone else can do that sooner i would appreciate it
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seb it/they
if anyone else can do that sooner i would appreciate it
Nico (she/her) 03/27/2023 1:33 PM
I could probably write an email for that in a bit
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seb it/they 03/27/2023 1:34 PM
you can ping me when you're done//whenever and i'll send it through the OAT email thanksss
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Hayden (he/they) 03/27/2023 1:35 PM
I added some notes to the NAACP one
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seb it/they 03/27/2023 1:36 PM
thanks :)
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Hayden (he/they) 03/27/2023 1:39 PM
I can get going with one to SC Black Pride, but I imagine it will be almost a copy/paste of the NAACP one
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seb it/they 03/27/2023 1:39 PM
that's why i started on the NAACP one first, i figured it would be pretty similar for multiple other orgs and was a good place to start
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also if we find more therapist's emails we can send them out to them pretty easily, it's just a matter of finding more email addresses to contact
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Hayden (he/they) 03/27/2023 1:50 PM
Good Afternoon/Morning Mr. Jones, This is a contact email sent to you by Organize Against Transphobia (OAT), a coalition of queer activists in the Carolinas that was formed to fight against transphobic bills introduced in the SC Legislature this session. As you and your organization are aware, ...
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Heres a draft of that email, short and sweet
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seb it/they 03/27/2023 1:52 PM
I like it
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Arnold Karr 03/27/2023 1:58 PM
If you can break through the NAACP hangup or fear of their membership's hangups about gay and trans humans, I will worship at your feet.
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seb it/they 03/27/2023 1:59 PM
i am not confident in my abilities over just email
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tbh
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or anyone here
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i think it's still worth it to email them though
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Arnold Karr 03/27/2023 2:03 PM
I think you might enlist the support of the SC Christian Action Council on this. There are several predominantly Black denominations that are in leadership and need to push harder on their congregants.
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seb it/they 03/27/2023 2:07 PM
can you get me their information?
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Arnold Karr
If you can break through the NAACP hangup or fear of their membership's hangups about gay and trans humans, I will worship at your feet.
A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/27/2023 2:34 PM
I said this earlier on, but considering the pro-trans messaging at the NAACP awards last month, I'm hoping that might be easier. But we'll have to see.
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seb it/they
can you get me their information?
Arnold Karr 03/27/2023 2:40 PM
See posts, photos and more on Facebook.
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seb it/they 03/28/2023 3:00 PM
looked over the NAACP email and responded to some of teh comments, was a bit unsure about one thign @Hayden (he/they) said, as soon as that gets resolved we can send them out
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Hayden (he/they)
Heres a draft of that email, short and sweet
Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/28/2023 4:03 PM
i think that it's good
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Nico (she/her) 03/29/2023 6:39 PM
ok I've wrote the voice coach contact email @seb it/they you can look at it and send it if it looks good when u get a chance, and ofc if anyone else has any input feel free
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seb it/they 03/29/2023 6:39 PM
i can look at it now :)
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can you link it
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Nico (she/her) 03/29/2023 6:39 PM
oh sorry hold on
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/29/2023 6:39 PM
Oh shit I knew I forgot something 😅😅. Sorry y'all
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seb it/they 03/29/2023 6:39 PM
we've got it handled :)
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lol i type :) way too often
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Nico (she/her) 03/29/2023 6:40 PM
Dear Voice Coach We are Organize Against Transphobia (OAT), a new coalition in the Carolinas formed to combat bigotry. We are trans people and queer allies protecting trans people, performing mutual aid, community building events and outreach. We are writing to you to expand our network of reso...
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seb it/they 03/29/2023 6:41 PM
looks great
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i'll schedule it to send out tomorrow morning
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scheduled to send
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Nico (she/her) 03/29/2023 6:44 PM
Thanks seb
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seb it/they 03/29/2023 6:46 PM
thank u
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okay so i need help
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we need to build more support with dems and get more directly into contact with them, i'd like to ask them to veto/use more aggressive tactics when the oppourtinty comes against the legislation, i just don't really know what to do in order to make this happen
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i'm not very politically expereinced and so any input is really appreciated
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i know one state house dem
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Hayden (he/they) 03/30/2023 10:27 AM
Senate is the first up. We should try to meet with hutto, kimpson, Rutherford, any other dem senator who might be willing to listen
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I can send out a barrage of emails from my personal just to reach out
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okay i'm willing to meet with people, and send out contact emails from the OAT account
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Fanning is one of the friendliest. He’s not in any of our key committees, but I’ve seen him working with unions and he is a huge supporter of education, sponsoring bills like a teacher bill of rights and giving them more freedom in the classroom. He would be someone to consider reaching out to especially when thinking about these educational censorship bills
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Sam McKenzie 03/30/2023 11:20 AM
Mia McLeod is awesome and might be open to it. We had her for a speaker event at the law school when she was running for governor
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Todd Rutherford might be someone else to consider
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Ah, Hayden said him
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Mia McLeod is pretty good, she's my senator and spoke to my class in high school a few times.
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She's also worked with groups like SC for Ed and cares about education
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/30/2023 1:28 PM
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Here you go. names, pictures, phone numbers. i don't think i have emails though
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if anyone wants to upload to google drive
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/30/2023 1:38 PM
https://instagram.com/undertheumbrellac?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Just followed us on Insta, added them to the contact sheet
Welcome back to Instagram. Sign in to check out what your friends, family & interests have been capturing & sharing around the world.
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seb it/they 03/30/2023 1:54 PM
You should send them a dm with an invite link
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/30/2023 1:55 PM
Also looking at some of the other college groups (Wofford and Newberry), they haven't posted in over a year 😢. I'll see if I can do some digging on them when I have the time
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seb it/they 03/30/2023 1:56 PM
Thank you
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AsterTheDisaster 03/30/2023 3:08 PM
Hey y'all I'm the president of a trans student group at Clemson. Would love to build some connections 🙂
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seb it/they 03/30/2023 3:10 PM
Cool, we can make you an org role in a bit
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Feel free to invite all of your members
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AsterTheDisaster 03/30/2023 3:13 PM
We're called under the umbrella!
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Hayden (he/they) 03/30/2023 3:39 PM
Tom Corwin is looking to write a story about OAT. Would anyone like to be a subject of the article?
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He is from the post and courier by the way
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AsterTheDisaster
Hey y'all I'm the president of a trans student group at Clemson. Would love to build some connections 🙂
Hey Aster lol
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Hayden (he/they) 03/30/2023 3:48 PM
Also there's a discussion to be had about safety with media portrayals, if we want to give real names, etc
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Irabella (Leilah)(she/fae) 03/30/2023 4:13 PM
I think best practices for the future long run is to have a person or team who act as the orgs public facing rep(s) that have media trained (or wants to learn) and willing to have their face and name out there. (edited)
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Hayden (he/they) 03/30/2023 4:21 PM
I would agree that this would be optimal, but since this story is about the organization the author probably wants a look at different members, various motivations, etc
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I certainly don't mind talking, but I'm at the bottom of the list because I'm not trans
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comrade kalia (she/her) 03/30/2023 4:22 PM
i’d be down to talk
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i haven’t been able to contribute much else yet since my life has been a shitshow but i speak fairly well
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I'm willing to talk, I don't mind giving my name (edited)
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seb it/they 03/30/2023 4:23 PM
I'm willing to talk but with a fake name
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Or just seb
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Yeah I gave my full name to the state with oat attached so I’m already a bit burned
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Cyprus
Yeah I gave my full name to the state with oat attached so I’m already a bit burned
Hayden (he/they) 03/30/2023 4:23 PM
Might be good to get diversity in that case
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comrade kalia (she/her) 03/30/2023 4:24 PM
i can give my name since it’s not my legal name
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yet, at least
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By burned I mean I took a security risk it’s fine
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I don’t own a house and it’s not my legal name
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comrade kalia (she/her) 03/30/2023 4:25 PM
homeownership? in this economy?
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Hayden (he/they) 03/30/2023 4:31 PM
Yeah I just mean if you've already talked to press we should let someone else who hasn't volunteer first
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So we don't get the same 3 people talking to the press
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Personally I think people who spoke at the state house would be good candidates
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/30/2023 4:32 PM
spoke yesterday?
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Hayden (he/they) 03/30/2023 4:32 PM
Yes
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/30/2023 4:32 PM
the only person i recognized yesterday was pickles
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there wasnt a large OAT showing
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im willing to talk to a reporter but i dont know if shouting at a senator counts as speaking
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shouting = double speaking
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Yeah, you get extra credit
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im willing to talk to a reporter but i dont know if shouting at a senator counts as speaking
Hayden (he/they) 03/30/2023 4:37 PM
I'd say that would make them extra interested
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/30/2023 4:38 PM
do you want me to give you name and contact info to send over then?
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comrade kalia (she/her) 03/30/2023 4:39 PM
i can do the same if y’all want more than one person to talk
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Hayden (he/they) 03/30/2023 4:41 PM
With press, there's no such thing as too many people reaching out to them. The worst they will do is say "I have enough people"
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comrade kalia (she/her) 03/30/2023 4:42 PM
valid
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Hayden (he/they) 03/30/2023 4:55 PM
Before I get everyones info though I think it's important that everyone seriously consider any risk you might be taking by talking publicly about this, either in your personal and professional lives
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I will ask our contact, but I imagine this piece is going to be a profile. Meaning he will want to know about you, ask questions about your identity, the bills, any pushback etc.
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comrade kalia (she/her) 03/30/2023 5:00 PM
im down w that
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I'd be down to talk to em, but I also feel not qualified too lol
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Kiral
I'd be down to talk to em, but I also feel not qualified too lol
Hayden (he/they) 03/30/2023 5:04 PM
Its all good, just send me whatever contact info you would like to share.
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So far I have @comrade kalia (she/her) , @Olivia , @Cyprus , @AthenaTheCommie (she/they) speaking and willing to give full info. I have @seb it/they down to talk with a fake name, not sure about @Kiral but we can figure it out. (If you give me fake info I wont really have a way to know anyway). If anyone else would like to, just lmk either here or in the dm's
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Hayden (he/they) 03/30/2023 5:17 PM
Tom Corwin is based in Charleston, so I'd expect a zoom call or phone call request from him.
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Hayden (he/they) 03/30/2023 5:54 PM
South Carolina lawmakers like Rep. R.J. May, a co-founder of the hardline conservative Freedom Caucus, say these children have been influenced by "social media, TikTok, Instagram, YouTube" into identifying as
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Tom wrote this article earlier this month
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comrade kalia (she/her) 03/31/2023 12:02 PM
they made an attempt
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an interesting attempt, but an attempt
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/31/2023 12:03 PM
I feel like we could get some free yoga 👀
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Hayden (he/they) 03/31/2023 12:06 PM
Complimentary goat yoga
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/31/2023 12:09 PM
Realized I posted that with her phone number hold on
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But yeah, if anyone has an idea of what we might be able to do, let me know! Might be worth bringing up in the @mutual_aid meeting.
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We should also just reach out to see what they had in mind
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/31/2023 12:30 PM
I did reach out and said I was gonna bring this to the group to see what we thought. But I can send another message
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Yeah I would just get a better idea of their intentions because the insta message is opaque asl
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/31/2023 5:10 PM
@Olivia you're in demand again lol
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Intergenerational organizing ftw
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Hey hey! So as some of you may know, IRIS at USC hosts an annual drag show called Birdcage that attracts about 400-500 attendees each year. In this year’s programme as an insert, we have been wanting to provide information on the legislation going on in the state (especially about drag shows, given the nature of the event) and provide links to resources for ways to donate or get involved. My question is two part: 1. If we can get this past the university (we should, better to ask forgiveness than permission and all that), would OAT want to be a “get involved” type resource to link, and what part of the organisation would we want linked (website, discord, etc.)? 2. Are there any other particularly prominent resources/funds that should be featured, particularly ones focused on the Midlands and Columbia area, where we and the vast majority of our university attendees will be?
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I didn’t really know where to put this one tbh, it’s a bit of an odd topic
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/31/2023 5:19 PM
i definitely think we should advertise OAT if thats an option
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link to our website if you do (edited)
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A-A-Ron (they/them)
@Olivia you're in demand again lol
happy to make something work, but I need a day or two away, I'm very overwhelmed by stuff going on in my life
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/31/2023 5:25 PM
Her number is in the earlier message, you just reach out however whenever you're able! (edited)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/31/2023 5:28 PM
liv also shouldnt be the only one doing these events
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if others feel informed and willing, they are capable too
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Hayden (he/they) 03/31/2023 5:29 PM
I am happy to as well
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I thought about that and I think a good idea would be to start doing them in pairs. Bring someone who wants to start doing them along (maybe someone in the upstate if I drive up there to talk to yoga people?) and that way we have one person we know is good on the info and then they "train up" someone who is less confident. (edited)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
liv also shouldnt be the only one doing these events
A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/31/2023 5:32 PM
Very true.
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I'm happy to go in a pair. I'm not a particularly good public speaker, but I'm willing to try
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I thought about that and I think a good idea would be to start doing them in pairs. Bring someone who wants to start doing them along (maybe someone in the upstate if I drive up there to talk to yoga people?) and that way we have one person we know is good on the info and then they "train up" someone who is less confident. (edited)
A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/31/2023 5:46 PM
I was also wondering how we'd wanna do it since they're in Greenville. Maybe we can ask some of the new Clemson ppl! It'd be a good way to get them involved.
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Obviously not to put anyone on the spot. Just an idea.
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wa hah?
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are we planning outreach events?
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I was also wondering how we'd wanna do it since they're in Greenville. Maybe we can ask some of the new Clemson ppl! It'd be a good way to get them involved.
I don't mind going up to Greenville because I can visit my parents and I don't see them enough, happy to meet people there or bring them along
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are we planning outreach events?
nvrmnd idk what outreach meant i mean just spreading the word about oat
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are we planning outreach events?
A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/31/2023 5:51 PM
Greenville Yoga reached out and wants us to do the presentation that Olivia put together!
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ah ok!
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one of us in clemson may be able to arrange a trip to greenville if needed
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@AsterTheDisaster is the under the umbrella organizer so i point you to xem for anything official!
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/31/2023 5:53 PM
We'll get it all sorted in a couple days, but that'd be a great way for us to touch base since we're so spread out
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We'll need to see if we can get y'all some stickers and such as well
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AsterTheDisaster 03/31/2023 5:58 PM
I'm pretty much booked till the end of school (Clemson does campus pride events in April!) But I'll be here during the summer for a job. I don't have a car/don't drive tho so I'm not sure how much help I'd be lol
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for resources, i would start with: the trans love fund https://wearefamilycharleston.org/tlf closet case thrift store https://wearefamilycharleston.org/closetcasethrift
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I got my first binder from closet case 😍😭🥺
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Hayden (he/they) 03/31/2023 5:59 PM
I've got family up in g-vegas so I can help out if need be
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if anyone else is willing to drive from the clemson group, then i may be able to go up with them if within my schedule
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there are also busses that go up there as a plan b option, we'd just get picked up from CU-ICAR
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/31/2023 7:53 PM
I'm an hour away, so depending on the time/date I could also potentially be there!
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seb it/they 04/01/2023 4:04 PM
@ClemsonUnderTheUmbrella are one of y'all willing to work as an org representative between y'all and the wider OAT?
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AsterTheDisaster 04/01/2023 4:29 PM
I'm super open to it. I'm still new to learning about this organization but I'd love to help connect students to advocacy opportunities.
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@Lowcountry SC hmu if you’re interested in helping organize an oat / trans potluck in Charleston
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I'm super open to it. I'm still new to learning about this organization but I'd love to help connect students to advocacy opportunities.
seb it/they 04/01/2023 4:43 PM
idk how y'all are organized, but the org rep position is basically just meant to be a way of communication between the orgs
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just let us know who y'all think is best suited for the role and i can give it to whoever y'all select
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we'd also like to get y'all stickers and posters if you want
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AsterTheDisaster 04/01/2023 4:50 PM
Oh awesome, yeah currently that would probably be me 🙂
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seb it/they 04/01/2023 4:51 PM
cool
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AsterTheDisaster
Oh awesome, yeah currently that would probably be me 🙂
seb it/they 04/01/2023 5:16 PM
you've got the org rep role :)
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AsterTheDisaster 04/02/2023 1:38 AM
Hey y'all so this is super last minute but I'm doing a presentation with utu about the anti LGBTQ legislation and a part of the night I am running a discussion but so basically it was originally targeted to informing members of my organization but I got offered the opportunity to have greater impact and bringing all this up to allies and more of Clemson and now a lot of the discussion points I had are too specific to engage a wide audience variety. I was wondering if anyone had any advice. The presentation is going over more broadly categories of bills being pushed, state specific details and then resources for finding information about this legislation stuff. The discussion I want it to be centered on "community resilience and how to keep moving forward" does anyone have any good ideas of how to approach the discussion portion to a broader audience? And tips on moderating a discussion. (This is like my first time doing this kind of thing and I'm super nervous)
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Also I love the irony of me accidentally scheduling this the same night as TPUSA campus org is having Candace Owens speak 💀 🤣
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seb it/they 04/02/2023 7:52 AM
Weve given similar presentations and can link you to ours, @Olivia might be able to help a bit more
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Hey y'all so this is super last minute but I'm doing a presentation with utu about the anti LGBTQ legislation and a part of the night I am running a discussion but so basically it was originally targeted to informing members of my organization but I got offered the opportunity to have greater impact and bringing all this up to allies and more of Clemson and now a lot of the discussion points I had are too specific to engage a wide audience variety. I was wondering if anyone had any advice. The presentation is going over more broadly categories of bills being pushed, state specific details and then resources for finding information about this legislation stuff. The discussion I want it to be centered on "community resilience and how to keep moving forward" does anyone have any good ideas of how to approach the discussion portion to a broader audience? And tips on moderating a discussion. (This is like my first time doing this kind of thing and I'm super nervous)
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1kYNMoZU4I75NPku_s7j3X4qrq53XLtpzKZuwXvvLvV4/edit?usp=sharing here's the powerpoint we made. My thought process when making it was to give people both an understanding of the bills and how best to advocate against them, so I clumped them by the type of bills and did 1 slide of info, then the next slide with talking points that could be used to argue against them, which should transfer to any context needed. There's also a slide at the end about how to prepare for if these bills pass and one for what to do in the meantime which I wanted to have ideas for allies, I'd suggest looking at both of those for community resilience. We're happy to be on there as a resource for finding info about legislative stuff. You're free to use info from the powerpoint, but I haven't had a chance to update it. Updates are minor, just adding a few bills and switching out the section about H.3728 for another bill that will be coming up whenever it next gets presented
CONTENT WARNING: -Transphobia -Homophobia -Abusive households -Racism -SC Legislature
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I'm very busy today but I've done a few in person outreach/education events so feel free to reach out in here and we might be able to get you some more tips/advice/info, I know when I presented about this stuff I got a lot of questions about local/personal ramifications of these laws (edited)
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Nico (she/her) 04/03/2023 10:50 AM
According to the big todo we still need email templates for house and senate outreach tho it looks like there's already a sample email, should those be crossed off?
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robin (they/it) 04/03/2023 10:51 AM
i dont think big todo is up to date
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Nico (she/her) 04/03/2023 10:51 AM
ah ok
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it is very not up to date
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i've been meaning to fix it but have not
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Nico (she/her) 04/03/2023 11:13 AM
ok it looks like the dems, and fnb emails have not been touched since they were made so I'm gonna edit those
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Nico (she/her) 04/03/2023 12:24 PM
also for clarification, the dems email is just supposed to be for the sc democratic party as a whole right, not like specific legislators or anything
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Nico (she/her) 04/03/2023 12:32 PM
also fixing links to bills on email formats, s274 was left off ans s276 was linked twice
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also for clarification, the dems email is just supposed to be for the sc democratic party as a whole right, not like specific legislators or anything
It's specifically for the democratic parties/smaller groups listed in the google sheet
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Nico (she/her) 04/03/2023 1:06 PM
ok finished with dem email, fnb email and fixing bill inks
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very minimal changes to fnb email but I added a decent bit to the dem email
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AsterTheDisaster 04/03/2023 8:12 PM
I would love some advice about fund raising and handling money for student organizations if anyone has any experience 🙏 just beginning to form our trans org and it's been radio silence from anything at our university.
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seb it/they 04/03/2023 8:12 PM
@Bernie may be able to help
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I feel like this is maybe their area of expertise, or someone from iris
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Lol just saw this and was thinking
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seb it/they 04/03/2023 8:13 PM
But I'd imagine how USC works is different from Clemson
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AsterTheDisaster 04/03/2023 8:14 PM
We have a student funding board we can request funding from, however they require anual funding request and specific budgeted things and often times opportunities come up during the year that we'd love to be a part of that don't really have opportunity because of the way funding works.
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Yeah, I was trying to think of things that are more transferable across universities. Our budget is mostly just whatever we can raise and then we partner with campus institutions that receive an official budget (OMSA for Drag Brunch, CP for Birdcage, etc.) to pay for things we organise.
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AsterTheDisaster 04/03/2023 8:15 PM
Idk if restaurant proceed nights would work for trans orgs and I've still got to learn my universities policies.
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And like how do I raise money if I don't have money to prepurchase things to sell lol. Idk money is mega confusing.
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Idk if restaurant proceed nights would work for trans orgs and I've still got to learn my universities policies.
Could reach out to upstate LGBT chamber of commerce about potentially friendly local businesses
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AsterTheDisaster
We have a student funding board we can request funding from, however they require anual funding request and specific budgeted things and often times opportunities come up during the year that we'd love to be a part of that don't really have opportunity because of the way funding works.
So it all has to be done annually? Here we petition the student senate for money from their general activities fund whenever we need it. Idk how Clemson works, but fundraising ideas like restaurant proceed nights can only get you money, no overhead, so they’re good if you can get them. There’s that upstate queer CoC that could help, I think someone from there is in the server. I also know we’ve had offers from drag queens to host fundraiser brunches or shows where sone proceeds would go to us, it may be worth reaching out to your local community to see if anyone is interested. I saw you have an annual drag show going on ten years, does your org have any involvement in that?
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AsterTheDisaster 04/03/2023 8:18 PM
No, the drag show is actually through our campus wide entertainment organization.
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If you ever want to send me what you have to look over your university policies, feel free. These institutions can be designed to be opaque so they don’t have to give you money unless they want to
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No, the drag show is actually through our campus wide entertainment organization.
Ah yeah, we have had to wrestle back control of our show over the years, but now we’re basically in charge and they just pay for it and provide the manpower for the venue
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But consider hosting your own event if they’re taking budget proposals!
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Never hurts to ask, at least, and I have past budgets, contracts, and experience with running something like that in a university setting if you did need advice or someone to walk you through the process and necessary considerations. (edited)
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AsterTheDisaster 04/03/2023 8:24 PM
There is literally so much behind running a club that's been so confusing and learning everything from scratch has been intimidating. Thanks so much for your input!
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I've literally learned so much in one year I have like 6 pages of planning and connections to work for next year lol
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Being on the board of IRIS is enough, starting an org from scratch is incredibly daunting and it’s very impressive that you’ve managed to do it. If you ever need help or the event arises that you’d want to work with a queer group at USC, rivalry or no, just let me know. I’ll be our president for the next year and I’m trying to get IRIS more involved with the wider world around us
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seb it/they 04/03/2023 8:29 PM
Ditto with OAT
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AsterTheDisaster 04/03/2023 8:52 PM
Lol My parents went to USC no animosity here 🤣
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AsterTheDisaster
Lol My parents went to USC no animosity here 🤣
speak for yourself we burn a massive tiger effigy every autumn for a reason 🗡
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AsterTheDisaster 04/03/2023 8:53 PM
Dang yeah pretty sure we have a cocky funeral some time.
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Probably around the rivalry game? Idk I don't sports
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lol same
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but again, if you ever need help just lmk
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I just don't like that color of 🍊 orange 😢
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Also, are you a DSO or an ISO? I'm looking at the surprisingly user friendly Clemson site (curse you, arcane USC online resources!) and am working on reading stuff about your student org funding
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It looks like there is a process aside from annual funding called a contingency funding request, it just has to be submitted 45 days in advance (which should be more than fine, any project/event that needs funding should be planned out decently far in advance anyway)
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I just don't like that color of 🍊 orange 😢
What would you prefer?
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Bernie
What would you prefer?
New logo dropping.
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... I wouldn't want to fight that
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looks like the cheetos mascot but more feral
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Hayden (he/they) 04/03/2023 9:05 PM
Dang what did they put in tony's frosted flakes
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speak for yourself we burn a massive tiger effigy every autumn for a reason 🗡
A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/03/2023 9:05 PM
Easy plan some anti-Clemson thing on campus, charge ppl to get in, then donate all the money to Clemson ppl
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Still a tiger but not as orange idk ><
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Chester the Cheetah went to college and became a gay communist
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Easy plan some anti-Clemson thing on campus, charge ppl to get in, then donate all the money to Clemson ppl
reveal it at the end with all of their money in a hot air balloon that starts flying off to Clemson like I'm the villain in some old kids movie
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/03/2023 9:07 PM
i tried to help build the tiger one year
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its a lot
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you would have made it too strong
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its a lot
idk just slap some sticks together boom, engineering easy, give me my degree
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BenjaminIsaac 04/03/2023 9:09 PM
it burned very nicely last year
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I’m told some years it doesn’t burn at all
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I personally know some people at Clemson that can help with the funding aspect of Clemson's senate @AsterTheDisaster, we had to fight for funding for the gardens
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Click to see attachment 🖼️
Hayden (he/they) 04/03/2023 9:10 PM
You've heard of the orange order, now get ready for the garnet order
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it looks so sad ;-; it's also on fire, which I guess doesn't help matters I too would be a bit miffed if a bunch of people stood around cheering after they set me on fire. It's a bit rude, really
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I personally know some people at Clemson that can help with the funding aspect of Clemson's senate @AsterTheDisaster, we had to fight for funding for the gardens
We were able to skirt by some by technically being apart of EcoReps, but they could still help with general insight and knowledge on how it all works
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it looks so sad ;-; it's also on fire, which I guess doesn't help matters I too would be a bit miffed if a bunch of people stood around cheering after they set me on fire. It's a bit rude, really
BenjaminIsaac 04/03/2023 9:14 PM
he was sad before the burning too
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horrific really
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AsterTheDisaster 04/03/2023 9:16 PM
Perfect interpretation of a Clemson student during finals week
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I never went to tiger burn because they make the tiger too cute
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I love cats too much to see them suffer
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seb it/they 04/03/2023 9:18 PM
I always think it's really funny when USC engineering department is too incompetent to put a large dry wooden structure on fire (edited)
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BenjaminIsaac 04/03/2023 9:18 PM
it’s such a strange event
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this time they had music and beamer there trying to get the energy up but no one was listening to him
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and as soon as the flames went up people started surging towards the exit to get to the bus first
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Camryn Aisling 04/03/2023 9:24 PM
Tiger burn is always a massive disappointment
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I want a tiger like one of those giant goats in sweden
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(That always winds up burning down)
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BenjaminIsaac 04/03/2023 9:25 PM
i got some really cool pictures this year though
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Camryn Aisling
(That always winds up burning down)
Tom Scott moment
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AsterTheDisaster 04/04/2023 4:59 PM
Does USC still have a trans student alliance? I'm reading some 2016 article and it mentions one. Or is IRIS sort of like a overarching org
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seb it/they 04/04/2023 4:59 PM
it no longer exists sadly
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i was on the last board
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Jonah Glover 04/04/2023 5:02 PM
They still have IRIS (Individuals Respecting Identities and Sexualities)
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seb it/they
it no longer exists sadly
Nico (she/her) 04/04/2023 5:04 PM
I was in it my freshman year and it already seemed pretty dead then, curious tho when exactly it disbanded
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seb it/they 04/04/2023 5:04 PM
uh it was disbanded last year (edited)
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AsterTheDisaster 04/04/2023 5:06 PM
Gotcha good to know
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seb it/they 04/04/2023 5:07 PM
both CSOC and IRIS pretty much fill the gap of what it was
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and have a lot of the same membership
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Nico (she/her) 04/04/2023 5:08 PM
I remember when I was in it there was never time set aside from socializing which I came there wanting to get to know other trans people
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seb it/they 04/04/2023 5:08 PM
in the end it was only time for socializing lol which i think is part of why it fell apart
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Nico (she/her) 04/04/2023 5:08 PM
It was just someone presenting a topic the whole time (normally the same person every week)
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Oh interesting
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seb it/they 04/04/2023 5:08 PM
that and the board (myself included) was really disorganized
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AsterTheDisaster 04/04/2023 5:09 PM
Honestly student leadership is pretty messy
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seb it/they 04/04/2023 5:09 PM
yeah it was a good learning expereince for me for sure
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I was in it my freshman year and it already seemed pretty dead then, curious tho when exactly it disbanded
asher was controlling and when they left it kinda just fell apart
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Nico (she/her) 04/04/2023 8:52 PM
Yeah that's exactly why I left
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seb it/they 04/06/2023 2:08 PM
going to go ahead and schedule the NAACP emails to send unless anyone has any objections
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seb it/they 04/06/2023 2:18 PM
someone had wrote a sheet of which dems we thought pressuring/contacting would be most effective
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does anyone know where that got to?
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this one ??
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seb it/they 04/06/2023 2:23 PM
uh it says i don't have access to that
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robin (they/it) 04/06/2023 2:24 PM
bruh ... give me a second
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seb it/they 04/06/2023 2:32 PM
need to write a response to the voice training person too
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danielle
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seb it/they 04/06/2023 2:43 PM
sending this now
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Hayden (he/they) 04/07/2023 12:37 PM
If you haven't got an email from Tom yet, this is why
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That's so relatable, i hope he's enjoying his autism stuff
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tackysapphic 04/07/2023 12:46 PM
incredibly relatable (edited)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/07/2023 1:07 PM
A touch of the tism (edited)
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Hayden (he/they) 04/07/2023 1:08 PM
Also this email was sent at 1am
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WhichWitch17 04/07/2023 1:08 PM
happens to all of us honestly-
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Just like me frfr
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seb it/they 04/11/2023 2:43 PM
Discover unique opportunities at Garnet Gate! Find and attend events, browse and join organizations, and showcase your involvement.
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are we in contact withthese peopel?
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You guys are already connected with 864 pride yeah? They are tabling at the live out loud eventually and i can talk to them about oat if need be
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seb it/they 04/13/2023 2:42 PM
I don't think we have actually
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Let me check the org contact spreadsheet
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nope we have not connected with them
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I'll talk to them a little about oat just in case someone contacts them so they expect it
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I'll give them the website as well
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seb it/they 04/13/2023 2:49 PM
can you get me an email and their website
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and put it in the contact spreadsheet
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Picture uploading and I'll do an alt text in a bit after talking
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Yuh
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seb it/they 04/13/2023 2:49 PM
Organizations Organization,Contacted?,Contact Person,Status,Email,Phone,Website,Social Media ACLU,athena,working against bill with SC United for Justice and Equality AIGA SC,https://southcarolina.aiga.org/contact-us/ Alliance for Full Acce...
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Not on computer atm so can't go on spreadsheet
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Spencer Beeson Chief operations officer He/him/his Spencer@864pride.org 864-518-4740
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seb it/they 04/13/2023 2:56 PM
added
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lumenbos (they/he) 04/13/2023 4:05 PM
for Together SC you can add pstephenson@uwpiedmont.org. She's the head chair of the board. you can also try mhuggins@richlandlibrary.com. Melanie Huggins is the director of the Richland library and pretty active on the board
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seb it/they 04/13/2023 4:08 PM
can you add tehse directly to the spreadsheet?
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lumenbos (they/he) 04/13/2023 4:09 PM
I can't make changes
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seb it/they 04/13/2023 4:11 PM
oop, if you give me a gmail i can add you to the google drive
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feel free to dm me
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either0rgans 04/14/2023 10:55 AM
Yo yo anyone care to start an upstate Urban Survivors Union?
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@Upstate SC
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either0rgans 04/14/2023 10:57 AM
Gville, Anderson , Pendleton, Clemson area
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Idk if we got any other junkies in here but hmu
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Hayden (he/they) 04/14/2023 11:08 AM
That does remind me, I do have a stock of certain medical supplies for individuals that need needles and syringes. We tried to give them out to the unhoused here in Columbia, but nobody was a taker. If anyone needs that, just dm me
seb it/they pinned a message to this channel. 04/14/2023 11:36 AM
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@Lowcountry SC are any of you from bft/jasper?
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seb it/they 04/17/2023 6:20 PM
did we ever write an email to reach out to TAA and sc united about the mother's day event
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seb it/they 04/17/2023 7:48 PM
@Hayden (he/they)
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thanks, i thought it was a fever dream lol ;-;
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Hayden (he/they) 04/17/2023 7:48 PM
What all needs to get planned for yallmart this sunday?
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seb it/they 04/17/2023 7:49 PM
oh fuck i forgot about that
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we need posters, a version of our donation QR codes printed out (i think dillon made a thing for this) stickers and whatever merch
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p sure they are supplying the table
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Hayden (he/they) 04/17/2023 7:49 PM
Im thinking two events, one for each shift. I can hand off the buttons and posters to whoever does the first one
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seb it/they 04/17/2023 7:50 PM
i can go for the first bit would love company
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Hayden (he/they) 04/17/2023 7:53 PM
Is it cool if I make an announcement
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seb it/they 04/17/2023 7:58 PM
yes
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you have the organizer role bc it is cool if you make an annoucement
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you have the power
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Hayden (he/they) 04/17/2023 8:00 PM
Will do
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I'll give it a little time after the picnic announcement
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we need posters, a version of our donation QR codes printed out (i think dillon made a thing for this) stickers and whatever merch
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/17/2023 8:02 PM
i still have these from the last time
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seb it/they 04/17/2023 8:02 PM
also might more sense to ping midlands
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since lowcountry folks most likely cannot table
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where is it happening?
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Hayden (he/they) 04/17/2023 8:07 PM
Its at art bar in columbia
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AsterTheDisaster 04/17/2023 8:12 PM
when you're from the Columbia area so everything sounds familiar but then you remember you are stuck in Clemson 😭
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tw sanism, transphobia
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email in the oat inbox, from Charlie Daniel, saying "you are mentally ill"
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apparently we're big enough to get hate email now lol
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i reported it as spam
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BenjaminIsaac 04/19/2023 11:27 AM
one singular mentally ill
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robin (they/it) 04/19/2023 11:27 AM
i think that this is a little funny we should send spam to this email
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i love the google auto reply options
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is there a specific definition for sanism? I Can assume but i just want to make sure i understand correctly
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tw sanism, transphobia
I love the autoresponses
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it's descrimination against people for having mental illness
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that’s what I thought, thank you
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specifically a lot of the time it is dismissing what someone says because they are mentally ill, institutionalization for being mentally ill etc etc
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but it also overlaps with other isms
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robin (they/it) 04/19/2023 11:29 AM
i take pride in being a mentally ill
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often it overlaps with transphobia, misogyny, and racism
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robin (they/it)
i take pride in being a mentally ill
So true
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i take pride in being a mentally ill
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/19/2023 11:32 AM
At one point last night i told harut I’m insane and i have the diagnosis to prove it when he got ableist
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Cope harder conservatives
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Love how personally the auto-replies took it
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What? No, I’m not. Why?
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Confusion, denial, curiosity
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Tbh asking why am I mentally ill is something I do every day
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/19/2023 11:34 AM
Why are a bunch of ostracized trans people ill? The answer may surprise you
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i think that this is a little funny we should send spam to this email
lumenbos (they/he) 04/19/2023 11:34 AM
just thinking how nice it is of them to provide a personal email address
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Why are a bunch of ostracized trans people ill? The answer may surprise you
Fanon moment
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someone send them resources to get help or something so they get mad. maybe even use them. (edited)
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apparently we're big enough to get hate email now lol
If I look down on someone for not completing a thought ([personal pronoun]+[being verb]+[adjective modified by adverb]....(no predicate)], am I a sentencist, a grammarist, or a pedant?
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If I look down on someone for not completing a thought ([personal pronoun]+[being verb]+[adjective modified by adverb]....(no predicate)], am I a sentencist, a grammarist, or a pedant?
A prescriptive linguistic authoritarian. Liberate yourselves from 'standard english' and you liberate the mind oatbert
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Say Yes to Respect: Demand Accountability for Inviting Laura Loomer to Speak on Campus
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Here is the link
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cade (he/him) 04/19/2023 10:45 PM
449 SIGNATURES!!!
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James Harley 04/19/2023 11:38 PM
450
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remember not to donate "to the petition" it all just goes into the site
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it doesn't go to the MSA
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/20/2023 4:50 PM
Damn, just found out their used to be an LGBTQ student club where I work....they're looking for an advisor (I think I could do it??) But they only had two students interested and they just joined the Social Work Club instead...🤔 (edited)
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/20/2023 4:58 PM
Y'all think it'd be worth it for me to see if I can be an advisor and then link the students up with groups at other schools while trying to build it more on campus? I wasn't a part of any club in college, much less a queer group in small-town SC, so idk what all I'd be getting into. (edited)
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seb it/they 04/20/2023 4:59 PM
i feel like you should talk to both @Bernie and @AsterTheDisaster about this as they are both presidents of queer clubs
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Where do you work?
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/20/2023 5:17 PM
Limestone University, up in Gaffney. Technically they are a non-denominational Christian school, but that's kinda a mixed bag (there's no required religious instruction, etc. I think it's mostly branding and appeasing the old guard/alums). They have openly gay staff and students, and apparently a professor who passed recently was a very important person for Upstate Pride. 80% of the student population are athletes, so a lot of Europeans and Yankees (presumably ppl who are more sympathetic) and then the stereotypical lesbian softball/lacrosse/etc. players as well. But the politics of athletics is always weird as well. The fact that so many students are 1) always busy and 2) have built in social groups is what makes it hard to convince ppl to join clubs and do other things like that. Idk, I think it'd be cool to see if I could advise if there are some interested students, and then see if I can maybe sneak in some more radical queer politics as well.
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Tbc, I cringed typing "stereotypical lesbian softball/lacrosse/etc. players"...but it's just true here lol.
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seb it/they 04/20/2023 5:28 PM
i think that could be really valuable tbh
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like a student group
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/20/2023 5:32 PM
I have confirmation that I can be an advisor, I'd just have to find a way to get in contact with the students who were originally a part of it. Hopefully they aren't graduating seniors.
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twould also mean basically outing myself...which i've been hesitant to do, but doing something "for the students" is probably the best way to maybe open that door. Idk...the school is gay-friendly, not necessarily queer friendly. (edited)
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seb it/they 04/20/2023 5:39 PM
you'd have my full support in it
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i'd be willing to help you set things up/ get y'all resources
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/20/2023 5:41 PM
awesome, thank you. I have until the 28th to volunteer, so I'm gonna think on it some more. Obviously anybody else who has thoughts please share. Gaffney is just in an very interesting location and I think there's potential within leftist organizing...i'm trying to think of ways to push things in that direction.
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At the very least, I'd love to at least have an avenue to get queer students in touch with everyone in here.
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Absolutely, and I can put you in contact with our sponsor here at USC who may have more insight into the process of how to be an effective club sponsor and things on the back end that students don’t see as much. In terms of being a university queer org, if you ever need help setting things up or partnering on anything at any point, let me know 💕
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Limestone University, up in Gaffney. Technically they are a non-denominational Christian school, but that's kinda a mixed bag (there's no required religious instruction, etc. I think it's mostly branding and appeasing the old guard/alums). They have openly gay staff and students, and apparently a professor who passed recently was a very important person for Upstate Pride. 80% of the student population are athletes, so a lot of Europeans and Yankees (presumably ppl who are more sympathetic) and then the stereotypical lesbian softball/lacrosse/etc. players as well. But the politics of athletics is always weird as well. The fact that so many students are 1) always busy and 2) have built in social groups is what makes it hard to convince ppl to join clubs and do other things like that. Idk, I think it'd be cool to see if I could advise if there are some interested students, and then see if I can maybe sneak in some more radical queer politics as well.
It might be worth thinking about and asking interested students in what they’re interested in this club being. IRIS swings towards being more of a social gathering of queer people, but we also host educational and more advocacy focused meetings and events that have been very popular and are something we intend on leaning harder into next year after feedback and observations of what our members want to see. If students have social groups, consider how this org might lean in and be oriented as a way for queer students to meet, or else think about framing it as something more along the lines of treating it as a service and advocacy group focusing on queer issues.
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robin (they/it) 04/21/2023 10:29 AM
found this outside my class. might be a good org to look into working with ?
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It might be worth thinking about and asking interested students in what they’re interested in this club being. IRIS swings towards being more of a social gathering of queer people, but we also host educational and more advocacy focused meetings and events that have been very popular and are something we intend on leaning harder into next year after feedback and observations of what our members want to see. If students have social groups, consider how this org might lean in and be oriented as a way for queer students to meet, or else think about framing it as something more along the lines of treating it as a service and advocacy group focusing on queer issues.
A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/21/2023 10:31 AM
It's listed as being a "social and educational club" but yeah, considering it be re-vamped it'd definitely be worth taking stock of what they wanna do. Thanks! I'll keep yall updated
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found this outside my class. might be a good org to look into working with ?
A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/21/2023 10:32 AM
And yes definitely
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Can I ask who runs the @queer grad student association ?
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There’s one that’s trying to grow in Clemson and I’m curious to see what is working for QGSA
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robin (they/it) 04/23/2023 5:41 PM
according to garnet gate it is stacy phillips who i dont believe is in here
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but the email listed is stacyp@email.sc.edu
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seb it/they 04/23/2023 5:42 PM
@Victor (they/them) and @Sam McKenzie are invovled i believe
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Victor (they/them) 04/23/2023 6:48 PM
I am on the board of qgsa along with stacy, kai, and Anne Laure.
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Hi @Victor (they/them) ! I’m the president of Lavender Graduate Association at Clemson, and I’d love to learn more about what y’all do at USC. Does qgsa have like a website or anything to reference?
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Hi @Victor (they/them) ! I’m the president of Lavender Graduate Association at Clemson, and I’d love to learn more about what y’all do at USC. Does qgsa have like a website or anything to reference?
Victor (they/them) 04/23/2023 7:03 PM
No we dont have anything online. We might have an instagram I dont remember. We were started a couple years ago by Archie and Ruthanne and are still a very new org. I'm free to talk in Dms about events we've done, what worked and what didnt, etc over DMs. I've only been here the past year tho so I dont have the perspective on how to start the org
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seb it/they 04/23/2023 7:03 PM
is archie in here?
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Victor (they/them) 04/23/2023 7:05 PM
No I dont think so
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seb it/they 04/23/2023 7:05 PM
they definately should be invited if they want to come
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Victor (they/them) 04/23/2023 7:08 PM
I sent an invite link to OAT in the qgsa discord a while back but I dont think many people joined. Everyone is a grad student so no one has time to volunteer. This is part of problems qgsa has had where people are just too busy to invest in student orgs or show up to meeting.
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Okay cool, we’re pretty new here too. I’d be happy to talk about stuff in DMs (edited)
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There will be a Jamal Sutherland Mental Health Fair on June 10th in Charleston. Stand As One Activist Group is organizing it. I need to find groups to table the event. I'll need to find Mental Health Groups, Mutual Aid groups, activist groups, legislative groups, pride groups, whoever would be somewhat related to this sort of thing to table to pass out info. Also anyone wanna handle tabling for OAT in Charleston then?
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Also does anyone want to represent another org for tabling? (edited)
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robin (they/it) 04/23/2023 7:51 PM
can you also make an event for this ?
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June 10th i should definitely be able to help with it to some capacity
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I'll be going down too from columbia, but I may be going down the night before if anyone wants to ride with me
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robin (they/it)
can you also make an event for this ?
Done, just made the event
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robin (they/it) 04/23/2023 8:03 PM
ty
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@pickles- they/them (mel) would wren wanna table this too?
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AsterTheDisaster 04/24/2023 2:52 PM
Alt: a photo of a sticker with a palm tree graphic with colors of the trans flag. Is this a specific organization's sticker or a general sc trans sticker?
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seb it/they 04/24/2023 2:52 PM
Oat made those im fairly certain, but they're not like a specific org thing
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AsterTheDisaster 04/24/2023 2:53 PM
Cool thanks!
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My entire day was made getting stickers from O.A.T in the mail. I'm so happy
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can someone else add alt to this?
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one sec let me get the doc too
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Is there a pdf that can be linked?
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EMAIL TEXT READS AS FOLLOWS
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For immediate release Attached is a letter concerning USC student organization Uncensored America and USC Students Brendan Connors and Hunter Hughes. Connors is the UA USC president and Hughes is the treasurer. Connors, Hughes, and Uncensored America as a whole have displayed conduct unbecoming of University of South Carolina Students, including repeatedly posting transphobic slurs online, as well as hosting proudly transphobic and islamophobic speaker Laura Loomer. They have received no consequences for this from the University or otherwise. Sincerely, Concerned Trans and Queer University of South Carolina Students
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That's really damaging for Uncensored America / Brendan Connors
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Do we want to use the OAT accounts / website to publish and share it, and just say it was sent to us anonymously?
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Hayden (he/they) 04/25/2023 9:04 AM
Was this also sent with a title IX complaint?
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I'm not sure if title 9 would count here
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Hayden (he/they) 04/25/2023 9:32 AM
It would probably fall under discrimination
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Biden administration is interpreting Title IX to include trans and gay people right? If any of that stuff is directed at USC students it seems like a clear case for a complaint
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Hayden (he/they) 04/25/2023 9:35 AM
Even if it technically doesn't, it doesn't hurt to submit a form
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Would putting my real name on a title IX complaint form put me at risk
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Hayden (he/they) 04/25/2023 9:36 AM
Submitting a name isn't required, just a phone number
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And Google voice exists
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Would putting my real name on a title IX complaint form put me at risk
I think the complaint is anonymous
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Yeah
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Idk you could do discrimination but i think that section of title 9 is meant for if your trying to get a job with the campus or dealing with the campus.
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Hayden (he/they) 04/25/2023 9:39 AM
Yeah the form specifically has options for student actions
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And these folks could possibly be employed by or seeking employment with the school
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I think a better one to do would be harassment because of a hostile environment
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Gotcha alright
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Could do both
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Hayden (he/they) 04/25/2023 9:41 AM
Yeah idk if the exact details matter as much as a form getting submitted
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There will be a Jamal Sutherland Mental Health Fair on June 10th in Charleston. Stand As One Activist Group is organizing it. I need to find groups to table the event. I'll need to find Mental Health Groups, Mutual Aid groups, activist groups, legislative groups, pride groups, whoever would be somewhat related to this sort of thing to table to pass out info. Also anyone wanna handle tabling for OAT in Charleston then?
@social_media I'd love for us to make a flyer/graphic for this if no one's mentioned anything! sorry, i'm getting caught up on messages rn ❤️
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Biden administration is interpreting Title IX to include trans and gay people right? If any of that stuff is directed at USC students it seems like a clear case for a complaint
yes for sure, any type of gender and sexual orientation discrimination or harassment is included
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@social_media I'd love for us to make a flyer/graphic for this if no one's mentioned anything! sorry, i'm getting caught up on messages rn ❤️
robin (they/it) 04/25/2023 10:31 AM
im going to the statehouse rn but maybe after if no one has worked on it i can put one together
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Presumably stand as one will have a flyer since they're putting the event together (edited)
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I texted Hasan and forwarded the MSA the email since I figured they should see it
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That's true, we can just share the one they share with us whenever and we have plenty of time before it still
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/28/2023 9:39 PM
it was suggested to me today that we should attempt to reach out to the satanic temple to see if they want to join OAT
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the satanic temple are not the religious ones iirc
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it was suggested to me today that we should attempt to reach out to the satanic temple to see if they want to join OAT
im not sure if there is a chapter in SC, theres a "Friends of TST SC" I THINK
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theres probably an ATL chapter tho
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Didn’t they do some bad things
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Like afaik they did abortion stuff in New Mexico without speaking to organizers who were already there
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Yeah theyre generally disconnected from class struggle in the US because its a bunch of suburban reddit atheists
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it was suggested to me today that we should attempt to reach out to the satanic temple to see if they want to join OAT
I've already reached out to them about speaking at the Friends meeting. They're willing. I'm planning to visit them if they're cool with it.
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im not sure if there is a chapter in SC, theres a "Friends of TST SC" I THINK
I'm in touch with a congregation co-head who lives in Columbia. Maybe you can come when they speak at the Friends Meeting. I'm hoping for mid-May.
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oh nice alright
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Didn’t they do some bad things
Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/29/2023 12:03 AM
yeah anton levay is icky, @Emma knows way more about it than i do. i personally think satanists are cool even though the people who run the org are a bit 🥴 . personally i'd be cool with having a group of satanists in here
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anton levay is not the right org
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different kind of satanism
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/29/2023 12:10 AM
oh sorry lucien greaves runs TST (edited)
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he is also bad though
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white supremacist
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he has been extensively critiqued within the organization though i'm not sure they align with him as a whole but he was the main founder
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/29/2023 12:11 AM
do you think that we should have a like, role for tst members?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/29/2023 12:12 AM
that depends entirely on them coming on board first
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I'd want to look into the new mexico stuff before making a decision myself but i do know they're big on bodily autonomy
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thats like, their main thing
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/29/2023 12:12 AM
we've got orgs in here without roles cause they only have 2 people
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/29/2023 12:12 AM
o oki
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/29/2023 12:13 AM
ill freely say i have never once interacted with them before, it was just suggested to me today
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Interestingly, Anton LaVey died in a Catholic hospital
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/29/2023 12:14 AM
"accidentally" put holy water in the IV
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Can you imagine the jokes
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/29/2023 12:15 AM
instantly kill any satanist
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"Father, this man is dying, please read him his last rites." "With pleasure."
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he has been extensively critiqued within the organization though i'm not sure they align with him as a whole but he was the main founder
Nothing to do with Lavey & the CoS. He was a Randroid with rituals. TST is a secular organization that promotes being decent for the hell in of it, so to speak. https://thesatanictemple.com/
The Satanic Temple encourages benevolence and empathy, rejects tyrannical authority, advocates practical common sense, opposes injustice, and undertakes noble pursuits. The Satanic Temple uses Satan as a symbol of the eternal rebel fighting arbitrary authority and oppressive social norms.
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thats, what i was saying?
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lucean greaves is also a terrible person
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im not talking about lavey lol
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TST was founded by lucean greaves
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im confused
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I don't know Lucien Greaves but people can grow and change. I'm willing to let the local people speak for themselves but whether OAT wants to associate with them is not my call. I was only saying I can put you in touch.
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i mean yeah im not saying we cant talk to them
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they align a lot with trans folks
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but its worth acknowledging the white supremacist history
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im not just talking, he said a slur once or something
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he had a podcast with the Californian head of KKK
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like
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its bad
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i looked into it a while back because of how much hate TST gets from religious folks
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but its a legitimate critique (edited)
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I do think they're actually probably worth reachout out to
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considering their organization with bodily autonomy as a religious freedom
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yeah in the 2000s he said some slurs which is a big critique but im not sure if he is still that way now
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TST as a whole seems to be a pretty good org, besides Lucien and his past, and yeah like 1/3rd of them are reddit atheists "checkmate christians" but different chapters have done some great stuff so i think its worth asking around
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Dingo (they/them) 04/29/2023 9:24 AM
Satanism as a religion isn't bad because their tenants rely on promoting peace over harm (do what you will, as long as you don't harm anyone) but unfortunately like most good things it's been overrun by posers who like to kill animals :')) The temple themselves function as a quasi-religious political organization meant to combat the removal of the church/state boundary. For instance, at the beginning of all this mess (abortion rights), they sued a few states on grounds of religious freedom.
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Which is a clever loophole I will say
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/29/2023 4:16 PM
we have some @we are family people in here right? ive got an angle on getting some decent donations to the trans love fund from a local church here in cola, would be a pretty big sum and it might repeat every once in a while too. would that interest yall?
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we have some @we are family people in here right? ive got an angle on getting some decent donations to the trans love fund from a local church here in cola, would be a pretty big sum and it might repeat every once in a while too. would that interest yall?
hiya - dom from waf here. i’m happy to connect to learn more about the opportunity to raise funds for trans love fund (edited)
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hiya - dom from waf here. i’m happy to connect to learn more about the opportunity to raise funds for trans love fund (edited)
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/29/2023 4:29 PM
could you dm me a good email to bring into the loop?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
could you dm me a good email to bring into the loop?
will do!
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
we have some @we are family people in here right? ive got an angle on getting some decent donations to the trans love fund from a local church here in cola, would be a pretty big sum and it might repeat every once in a while too. would that interest yall?
puppygirl blair 04/29/2023 4:35 PM
I just applied for it
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Woof woof
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/29/2023 4:36 PM
hopefully we'll be able to send more funds that way then
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im not sure how much were talking, but if i understand right its a whole church's donations and they swap off charities every week (edited)
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seb it/they 04/29/2023 4:43 PM
What church is it?
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puppygirl blair 04/29/2023 4:47 PM
Sorry if I act weird I'm really attention whorey and lonely rn
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Also I'm in full puppymode
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Woof
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What church is it?
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/29/2023 5:01 PM
UUCC
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Sorry if I act weird I'm really attention whorey and lonely rn
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/29/2023 5:01 PM
how you want to be is your business far as im concerned (edited)
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that was meant in a positive way
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fuck
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this sounds asshole-y
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Also I'm in full puppymode
either0rgans 04/29/2023 5:04 PM
Never heard of it but I used to be afraid of the catbois until I read nyx land
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puppygirl blair 04/29/2023 5:04 PM
I'm a therian
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I'm a therian
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I appreciate you
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I appreciate you
puppygirl blair 04/29/2023 5:06 PM
Ty woof woof
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I don't hear that much
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It helps alot
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Especially that I've been depressed for at least a month
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I rarely get out of the house
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I rarely get out of the house
either0rgans 04/29/2023 5:09 PM
Sometimes taking a walk can really help even for just five minutes i end up doing the same thing with staying in too much
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And it's not weird for that to feel scary
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puppygirl blair 04/29/2023 5:13 PM
Ty
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/30/2023 4:05 PM
met the lead organizer of reformation lutheran's safe space program today
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hopefully can get them on board with OAT
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seb it/they 04/30/2023 4:19 PM
do you need any help athena?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/30/2023 4:48 PM
i gave them OAT's email
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if they respond we can see about sorting it all out as a group
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robin (they/it) 05/01/2023 11:02 AM
ok so one of the urgents on the to do list is to reach out to hbcus about oat what needs to be done for that ? i can put some time into that now
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i think that may have already been done
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the org building spreadsheet
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is the best place to check
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robin (they/it) 05/01/2023 11:03 AM
oh woops should i mark it finished ?
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i would chekc the spreadsheet first
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but maybe yes, we still need to intetionally reach out to more Black orgs and Black queer people
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/01/2023 3:21 PM
alright
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had another meeting with the safe space columbia leadership today
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went pretty well
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following up on maybe getting them some funding from the UUCC or capitol club
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i went ahead and shared OAT's socials and discord with their organizers
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they also requested we advertise safe space within our community and on our socials as soon as they send over the material, they have physical material we can hand out in person too
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robin (they/it) 05/01/2023 3:28 PM
i can make a post about that tomorrow or whenever we get the materials. coincidentally in the social media meeting yesterday we talked about helping advertise projects and things other groups are doing
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/02/2023 11:04 PM
we knocking stuff out today
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@druggerio you should see a new email from me, ive started communication to hopefully get the trans love fund put into a donation rotation from the UUCC church.
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ive also done the same for safe space columbia for the record
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/03/2023 9:35 AM
🙃 they already donating to the harriet hancock center
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no spots available till 2024
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seb it/they 05/03/2023 9:38 AM
Great
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We should target other churches too though
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seb it/they 05/03/2023 8:49 PM
@AthenaTheCommie (she/they) there was a new email from the people you emailed
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i don't have the spoons to read everything and respond
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/03/2023 8:50 PM
https://tenor.com/view/running-running-man-gif-26341322 the gif depicts a man running comically on a basketball field (edited)
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on it
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robin (they/it) 05/04/2023 9:09 AM
i made an email draft to reach out to local artists about the art swap if anyone wants to read over it
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Hi, We are OAT (Oraganize Against Transphobia) an organization dedicated to fighting transphobia and aiding the trans community in South Carolina. This summer we are planning to do an art swap and fundraiser to build community and to raise money for our various mutual aid projects. We were wonder...
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robin (they/it) 05/04/2023 9:21 AM
@organization_outreach if you know some artists that we should reach out to for the art fundraiser add them to this spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1smR-6B42b4BvEJBLQe8A74x4yxkr9Qe05dArNbh7OBo/edit?usp=sharing
Sheet1 artist name,way to contact them
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seb it/they 05/04/2023 9:22 AM
someone signed the OAT email up for trump campaign emails
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robin (they/it) 05/04/2023 9:23 AM
who is lia lol
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unsub
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seb it/they 05/04/2023 9:24 AM
there's not like an unsub button??
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i blocked the address lol
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robin (they/it) 05/04/2023 9:25 AM
ok works i guess
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robin (they/it)
who is lia lol
My guess would be Lia Thomas is the name they put
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seb it/they 05/04/2023 9:25 AM
?? what is that from lol
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robin (they/it) 05/04/2023 9:26 AM
tpusa "debate"
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seb it/they 05/04/2023 9:26 AM
ah
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Lia Catherine Thomas (born 1999 or 2000) is an American swimmer. In 2017, she began studying at the University of Pennsylvania, from which she graduated in May 2022. She competed on the university's men's swim team from 2017 to 2020, and on its women's swim team from 2021 to 2022. In March 2022, she became the first openly transgender athlete to...
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Transgender swimmer
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seb it/they 05/04/2023 9:27 AM
yeah i'm just bad at names
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i think for us talking about H3738 we could just use the SC united fact sheet
09:27
and have several on teh table
09:28
what do you think @Olivia
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When was that fact sheet last updated? It may be out of date for the most current amendment assuming I'm thinking of the same fact sheet (edited)
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Honestly I was gonna prioritize limited tables for other stuff and just set up a sign and talk
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seb it/they 05/04/2023 9:30 AM
or wait yeah i don't think there is one
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i'm reading the bill rn
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But if we have enough tables then that works for me
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seb it/they 05/04/2023 9:30 AM
i think our table space is kinda limited atm so that makes more sense
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robin (they/it) 05/04/2023 9:41 AM
for the welcome committee were we thinking the video call introduction or just like a person to get people involved and asking questions and such?
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seb it/they 05/04/2023 9:42 AM
idk i would ask kiral and aaron
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robin (they/it) 05/04/2023 9:42 AM
@Kiral @A-A-Ron (they/them)
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 05/04/2023 9:46 AM
Hmmm, I mean either would potentially work. Kiral and I haven't talked about it, though. We can get together and hash it out.
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A-A-Ron (they/them)
Hmmm, I mean either would potentially work. Kiral and I haven't talked about it, though. We can get together and hash it out.
Call me up when you get home from work adawg and we'll talk
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 05/04/2023 10:52 AM
...we'll need to talk about you calling me "adawg" first, but sounds good.
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seb it/they
there's not like an unsub button??
p sure that's illegal 💀 opt-in marketing has to be opt-out-able?? (edited)
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use ctrl + f
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also so fucking disgusting to do.
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sometimes they make the text white so it blends in
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TRUE it could be in white/unreadable yeah
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it's blocked already so nbd lol
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still not really legal but when have they ever cared about tht
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tbh i think it's kinda funny
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like oh no you subscribed me to an email service i don't need aaaa scary (sarcastic ) (edited)
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let's subscribe them to a bigot rapist terrorist-inciting man who wants them all dead probably. that'll show 'em
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I’d be terrified if Bed, Bath, and Beyond started sending me promotional materials out of nowhere
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Spam is one of my greatest fears
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https://tenor.com/view/spam-spam-lite-food-spinning-gif-17955332 spam meat block stop-motion rotating in place on a table beside the can it came from assumedly (edited)
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Jessica pleazedee 😭 🏃‍♀️ 😱
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Now imagine that in your email and say it wouldn’t be scary
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i just realized it's not on something like a placemat it's just made a wet spot 😭 but no i'm the same way spam emails and shit make me anxious. omg my house that doesn't exist has a warrant out for its arrest /joking 😭
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anyone here know why its called spam?
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not the meat- the email kind
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BenjaminIsaac 05/04/2023 1:28 PM
its named after a monty python sketch right
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BenjaminIsaac 05/04/2023 1:28 PM
I read that in a book but I have 0 idea what book it was lol
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it was a sketch about spam and ppl would quote it relentlessly on early message boards and chats
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Cw for uh, members of monty python dressed as women [tho that's not the butt of the joke, but just a warning!] https://youtu.be/duFierM1yDg
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robin (they/it) 05/05/2023 9:03 PM
im going to an art festival on sunday even though it is in atl ill going to see if people would be willing to mail in art for the art fundraiser
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seb it/they 05/05/2023 9:03 PM
i'm also down to have atlanta people join oat
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if you want to invite cool people
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robin (they/it) 05/05/2023 9:05 PM
ok ill see what happens
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https://instagram.com/lowcountrypridesc?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ== could someone put this on the spreadsheet? I’m considering going to one of their events near me
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robin (they/it) 05/08/2023 8:38 AM
sc for ed wants to support us but does not feel comfortable in the discord so they offered to repost our stuff on instagram if we need it
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Dr. Dc dr#d fed r. Dr @ d. Do c. Even. Fed. R 🚘🚛🚛🛞🚜
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robin (they/it) 05/08/2023 9:44 AM
?
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Pocket text
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robin (they/it) 05/08/2023 9:44 AM
oh wow
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seb it/they 05/08/2023 9:44 AM
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Can we get a trans tractor
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Dr. Dc dr#d fed r. Dr @ d. Do c. Even. Fed. R 🚘🚛🚛🛞🚜
Camryn Aisling 05/08/2023 12:31 PM
Our top cryptographers are working night and day to crack the code
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seb it/they
someone signed the OAT email up for trump campaign emails
that's awful, i signed up for a rally in sc a while back doing the tiktok "sign up and make him think a bunch of ppl are coming" and literally have tried to unsubscribe at least five times but for some reason i keep getting emailed (at least to my junk email so its fine but still)
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there's like a really hidden unsub button but it doesn't work bc his campaign will just keep sending them... blocking is good though
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seb it/they 05/11/2023 2:13 PM
Growing community defense, mutual-aid, and alternative systems of care for gender diverse people.
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i filled out their online form a while ago, but i think we should send them an email as well
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seb it/they 05/12/2023 1:04 PM
we should add a signature to the oat email
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seb it/they
i filled out their online form a while ago, but i think we should send them an email as well
robin (they/it) 05/12/2023 1:07 PM
for this what would be the goal of the email ? getting registered as a part of the network ?
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(clarifying question)
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seb it/they 05/12/2023 1:08 PM
yes and to get more communication between us
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basically be like "we have resources we need to get to queer people help"
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seb it/they 05/12/2023 3:11 PM
i sent our linktree and an OAT discord link
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robin (they/it) 05/12/2023 3:12 PM
awesome
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robin (they/it) 05/12/2023 5:21 PM
I'm Looking For A Faith Community I'm Looking For A Faith Community WELCOMING FAITH COMMUNITIES This directory is a resource for finding LGBT-welcoming faith communities in Virginia. We’re proud to work with a network of affirming faith communities to counter the idea
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found this to should i add all of them to the contact list ?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/15/2023 6:36 PM
we now have an email signature in the gmail
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ColorfulKnoll 05/16/2023 7:23 PM
This conversation started in #midlands-general but I'm moving it here, just to get everyone on the same boat midlands tech is having a small pride event on the 14th from 1pm-3pm. Contact options are midlands tech's mutual aid group and office for student life. The office for student life is the organizers of the event so I personally think it'd be most helpful if I contacted them about anything oat can do and get more details but if anyone has contacts to the mutual aid group contacting them would help too. @Debbie sorry for the ping but if you come online can you inform me more about the midlands mutual aid group
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Just for clarification I'm also a midlands tech student
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