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Did not mean to click that.
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Howdy all
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Logan (he/him) 12/07/2022 8:46 PM
and this is statewide correct?
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Fawny (any) 12/07/2022 8:46 PM
yes
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Hopefully, if this can be spread around to more orgs around the state that would be cool
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Spread it as far as possible
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WhichWitch17 12/07/2022 8:47 PM
Agreed. This needs to reach as far as possible
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Hello everyone. Priest here. Comrade out of CHS.
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statewide signal chat?
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SherHyatt
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discord isn't exactly the most secure platform
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A signal chat might be a good idea for otg organizing
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This is a good chat for spreading information
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seb it/they 12/07/2022 8:55 PM
i'm going to write an email to reach out to midlands mutual aid
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Got a good number of people in here quick
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Just read HB 243. That's horrifying.
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SherHyatt
Just read HB 243. That's horrifying.
look at 274- its even worse
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Sophie (they/them) 12/07/2022 9:03 PM
The link in #senate-bill-s243 is wrong, it's actually https://legiscan.com/SC/bill/S0243/2023 @AthenaTheCommie (she/they) (edited)
Summary (2022-11-30) Gender reassignment [Referred to Committee on Medical Affairs]
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Victor (they/them) 12/07/2022 9:05 PM
Shared the link with grad queer group. Is anyone in OSTEM? or other queer groups on campus. I wanna make sure they get the link to join as well
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seb it/they
i'm going to write an email to reach out to midlands mutual aid
seb it/they 12/07/2022 9:06 PM
sent email to their organizers
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Sophie (they/them)
The link in #senate-bill-s243 is wrong, it's actually https://legiscan.com/SC/bill/S0243/2023 @AthenaTheCommie (she/they) (edited)
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/07/2022 9:06 PM
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Victor (they/them)
Shared the link with grad queer group. Is anyone in OSTEM? or other queer groups on campus. I wanna make sure they get the link to join as well
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/07/2022 9:06 PM
im in OSTEM
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HB 274 is just...wow.
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Sam McKenzie 12/07/2022 9:07 PM
Do y'all mind if I share the link with the law school queer student group and the local drag king group? I think a lot of them will want to help organjze
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do it
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Go ahead
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share it with EVERYONE you know who can help
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Sam McKenzie 12/07/2022 9:08 PM
Thanks!
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This needs to be spread as far as possible
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Let’s also start a signal chat in here for more OTG-focused discussion.
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seb it/they 12/07/2022 9:11 PM
EDIT: DON'T USE THIS, IT'S BEING REWRITTEN if anyone needs to send a message explaining it here's something i wrote
Hello Everyone, I'm not sure y'all are super familiar with me, my name is X and (insert personal introduction) We are currently coordinating a coalition to resist the latest anti-trans bills proposed in the SC legislature. Bills s274 and s243 propose to end all informed consent HRT in the state of South Carolina for anyone under the age of 21. This is devastating to the trans community in South Carolina. Here is the text of the bills: https://legiscan.com/SC/bill/S0243/2021
https://legiscan.com/SC/bill/S0243/2023
We are still in the very early stages of organizing but we have set up this discord as a hub for statewide organization. Here is the invite link to the discord: https://discord.gg/bwnZx4gvr8 If anyone has any questions feel free to ask! Looking forward to working with y'all,
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Summary (2022-06-28) Confidential or unfounded child abuse and neglect reports [Act No. 224]
Summary (2022-11-30) Gender reassignment [Referred to Committee on Medical Affairs]
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seb it/they
EDIT: DON'T USE THIS, IT'S BEING REWRITTEN if anyone needs to send a message explaining it here's something i wrote
Hello Everyone, I'm not sure y'all are super familiar with me, my name is X and (insert personal introduction) We are currently coordinating a coalition to resist the latest anti-trans bills proposed in the SC legislature. Bills s274 and s243 propose to end all informed consent HRT in the state of South Carolina for anyone under the age of 21. This is devastating to the trans community in South Carolina. Here is the text of the bills: https://legiscan.com/SC/bill/S0243/2021
https://legiscan.com/SC/bill/S0243/2023
We are still in the very early stages of organizing but we have set up this discord as a hub for statewide organization. Here is the invite link to the discord: https://discord.gg/bwnZx4gvr8 If anyone has any questions feel free to ask! Looking forward to working with y'all,
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/07/2022 9:14 PM
we should update this, the bills dont ban informed consent under 21. they ban treatment under 21, which is 1000x worse. they ban informed consent for anyone over 21. (edited)
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seb it/they 12/07/2022 9:15 PM
oh whoops
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i don't really have the energy to rewrite it currently
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i am cramming for a 9 am exam tomorrow
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EnbyGrdnGnome (They/He) 12/07/2022 9:15 PM
I’m from Georgia, how do I help
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/07/2022 9:15 PM
i put a prose description of both bills in #bill-introduction but i get it
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seb it/they 12/07/2022 9:15 PM
can someone else rewrite it?
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Sam McKenzie 12/07/2022 9:16 PM
Just a thought, but even as we're trying to get as many people as we can, be mindful of who you share this link with and how far it travels. We don't want the wrong people gaining access to this server, because people who want to undermine us wouldn't hesitate to join either
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Summary (2022-12-07) Biological Sex Constitutional Amendment [Referred to Committee on Judiciary]
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Sam McKenzie 12/07/2022 9:23 PM
No. No fucking way. It's same sex marriage all over again. They want to put it in the damn constitution
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seb it/they 12/07/2022 9:24 PM
do we want to go ahead and set up some sort of meeting to start discussing tactics?
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Logan (he/him) 12/07/2022 9:24 PM
yea
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seb it/they 12/07/2022 9:25 PM
how about friday?
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Plan for sometime this weekend?
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seb it/they 12/07/2022 9:25 PM
yeah more people are probably free on saturday
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How about sat at 12?
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seb it/they 12/07/2022 9:31 PM
okay how's this,
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WhichWitch17 12/07/2022 9:32 PM
I’m unfortunately getting dragged out of town this weekend so I’ll be busy. But I’m wishing y’all luck
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seb it/they
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seb it/they 12/07/2022 9:34 PM
@everyone
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seb it/they
react to this message with a šŸ‘ if the a meeting online on saturday Dec 10th at 12 would work for you, comment a time that would work for you if you're unavailable at this time
i might be driving - sunday afternoon works best for me
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seb it/they 12/07/2022 9:37 PM
oh true i forgot about that -_-
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ugh i don't want to keep pinging everyone
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we could just do monday but folxs have work
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alternatively we could just do two meetings really close together
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/07/2022 9:39 PM
theres sooooo many people
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we arent gonna get everyone
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robin (they/it) 12/07/2022 9:39 PM
i offer to take notes to keep people who arent able to go in the loop
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Victor (they/them) 12/07/2022 9:40 PM
Yea as long as we have detailed notes and action steps it should be fine
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robin (they/it)
i offer to take notes to keep people who arent able to go in the loop
seb it/they 12/07/2022 9:43 PM
thank you!!
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WhichWitch17 12/07/2022 9:44 PM
That’d be great. I hate I have to miss it because I really wanna be there.
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robin (they/it) 12/07/2022 9:45 PM
13:00 is my suggestion
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Victor (they/them) 12/07/2022 9:53 PM
It looks like s243 is the same bill resubmitted from last session by Joshua Kimbrell. It died in committee, so if we can see who is on this years committee versus last year, we can see whether they are likely to pass it https://legiscan.com/SC/bill/S1259/2021
Summary (2022-04-14) Gender reassignment [Referred to Committee on Medical Affairs]
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Hayden (he/they) 12/07/2022 9:54 PM
Also, when other regressive legislation was passed in Georgia, different industries threatened to divest. Are they any businesses in SC that could divest or threaten to?
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Victor (they/them) 12/07/2022 9:54 PM
Bowing, Michelin, car companies? idk if they give a shit about trans people tho
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seb it/they 12/07/2022 9:54 PM
Bmw
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Too
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Nephron
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Hayden (he/they) 12/07/2022 9:56 PM
Get lou Kennedy on the phone
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I know some folks over there
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George (He/They) 12/07/2022 9:57 PM
I have a number of other circles I’m able to share this but I’m not sure if I should blast this to everyone I know or if I should be more cautious with who I speak to on this. Particularly with respect to inviting people to the discord server. Thoughts?
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Max (they/it) 12/07/2022 9:57 PM
tell everyone you think is a good idea, make a judgement call
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Victor (they/them) 12/07/2022 9:57 PM
I would say only invite people that you know are queer or support queer people
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seb it/they 12/07/2022 9:57 PM
it also might be a good second to wait
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until we get some more structure set up
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like some sort of verification/mods so people can be kicked effectively if needed
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athena is currently scrambling to do stuff and is just one (very cool) person
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WhichWitch17 12/07/2022 9:58 PM
I think that’s probably best. Have people who can kick/ban because you never know.
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I’ve got some people but I wanted to wait till this was a bit more organized
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bumping this before i log off for the night
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For what its worth, im the president of the Sexuality and Gender Acceptance Club at Central Carolina Tech in sumter, whatever protests or actions that take place i will pass on to my club and ill share the discord with them in a bit
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thank you
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ofc, we are small for a club but it is a tech college lmao (edited)
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Any outreach is good : ) the more people willing to help stop this, the more likely we are to br able to
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the more the merrier with this
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Logan (he/him) 12/07/2022 10:19 PM
all hands on deck
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people should add stuff to this so we can begin to collate actual ideas
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sent out
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Logan (he/him) 12/07/2022 10:27 PM
hell yea
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Metis Victorian 12/07/2022 10:28 PM
Could we maybe do something at live out loud involving this?
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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maybeeeee
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lets talk about it in the saga discord ahahh
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I'll be in GA this weekend, but I'm down for anything, gotta protect human rights
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seb it/they 12/08/2022 7:53 AM
bumping this again for people who joined overnight
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im gonna be around some journalists from the state today probably- should i tell them about this bill ?
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Absolutely
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I wanna help however I can but my parents make it hard for me to go places because they make me use life360
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WhichWitch17 12/08/2022 10:09 AM
Oh you can freeze that
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It doesn’t show no signal or anything it just freezes you in place
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char
im gonna be around some journalists from the state today probably- should i tell them about this bill ?
done- i talked to two editors from The State, told them the bill numbers and a bit about their contents and both of them wrote them down in their notes
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they also have my email
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/08/2022 11:44 AM
Hello, my name is XXXX I'm not certain how much you have heard about this, I am writing to you now simply because we need all hands-on deck. SC senate Bills s274, s276, and s243 propose to ban HRT and all forms of medical transition for anyone under 21 in SC. They also end all informed consent HRT in the state of South Carolina for anyone over the age of 21 and require mandatory outing of minors. This is absolutely devastating to the trans community in South Carolina, and blatantly strips us of our human rights in a murderous act of genocide that will cost many lives. I urge you to please join and organize against this bill, and resend this message to every sympathetic person you know. Here is the text of the bills: https://legiscan.com/SC/bill/S0243/2023 https://legiscan.com/SC/text/S0274/2023 https://legiscan.com/SC/bill/S0276/2023 We are still in the very early stages of organizing but we have set up this discord as a hub for statewide organization. Here is the invite link to the discord: https://discord.gg/bwnZx4gvr8 If anyone has any questions feel free to ask! hi @everyone, here is a draft message for communication about the bills. please send this to all the queer people and strong allies that you know. (edited)
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/shooting-duke-energy-station-south-carolina-wateree-hydro-station/ sorry if you don't want this here... but this just fucking happened
It was not clear if the facility itself was targeted.
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journalism connections babey
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Hi y’all, some of you from uofsc socialists and Columbia dsa have met me, but it’s Claire, former president of Clemson ydsa. Have shared this group to the upstate allies and trans organizations. Sending love to all ā¤ļø (edited)
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/shooting-duke-energy-station-south-carolina-wateree-hydro-station/ sorry if you don't want this here... but this just fucking happened
Can people just not shoot each other for no reason
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@AthenaTheCommie (she/they) you should post the letter you wrote for usc so other college orgs can use it
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/08/2022 12:22 PM
ok yeah
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done
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Rubin (he/him) 12/08/2022 12:30 PM
Hello all, nick (he/him) Co-chair of CHS DSA.
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Sam McKenzie 12/08/2022 12:41 PM
I'm away from my laptop rn, but I might tweak the letter in other-info to send to deans of the various grad schools (just the age parts for healthcare and not sure if the outing part of the proposed bill applies to adults over 21 but I doubt it) and share it with QGS, if that's okay
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/08/2022 12:43 PM
thats what i wrote it for šŸ‘
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Should we have a role system so we can see what organizations people are involved with?
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I wouldn't mind that personally
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WhichWitch17 12/08/2022 1:10 PM
It’d probably make communication much easier
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/shooting-duke-energy-station-south-carolina-wateree-hydro-station/ sorry if you don't want this here... but this just fucking happened
pinky they/she 12/08/2022 1:12 PM
Omg
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Should we have a role system so we can see what organizations people are involved with?
working on it now
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if you're involved with an organization drop a message here and I'll make a role and add you to it
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pinky they/she
Omg
these are at least just a bunch of dumbass copycats so far, this person didn't even damage anything successfully. should monitor these events but this isn't like the coordinated one in NC. That's the type to be really concerned about.
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Olivia
if you're involved with an organization drop a message here and I'll make a role and add you to it
I'll get you a list of everyone from SRA, hold on
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Olivia
if you're involved with an organization drop a message here and I'll make a role and add you to it
Me, 63vdub, stuart, aaron, chomski, partfire. may have missed some.
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Me, 63vdub, stuart, aaron, chomski, partfire. may have missed some.
thanks for making my life easier :)
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we'll probably figure out a way to automate this but in the meantime I'm doing it manually
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there's reaction role bots you can set up
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Clemson ydsa/ ppl associated with it, @Drew @infinicommune @SailorGator @erik☭ @1bee2a @JessicaM
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May have also missed ppl @Drew mention anyone else who you notice join or thst I missed plz
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Sam McKenzie 12/08/2022 1:22 PM
I'm in law school, @Collin MeDaddie is in grad school (anthro dept), idk how many other grad students have joined yet but we shared it with a bunch
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Sam McKenzie
I'm in law school, @Collin MeDaddie is in grad school (anthro dept), idk how many other grad students have joined yet but we shared it with a bunch
what school?
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Sam McKenzie 12/08/2022 1:24 PM
USC
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
Hello, my name is XXXX I'm not certain how much you have heard about this, I am writing to you now simply because we need all hands-on deck. SC senate Bills s274, s276, and s243 propose to ban HRT and all forms of medical transition for anyone under 21 in SC. They also end all informed consent HRT in the state of South Carolina for anyone over the age of 21 and require mandatory outing of minors. This is absolutely devastating to the trans community in South Carolina, and blatantly strips us of our human rights in a murderous act of genocide that will cost many lives. I urge you to please join and organize against this bill, and resend this message to every sympathetic person you know. Here is the text of the bills: https://legiscan.com/SC/bill/S0243/2023 https://legiscan.com/SC/text/S0274/2023 https://legiscan.com/SC/bill/S0276/2023 We are still in the very early stages of organizing but we have set up this discord as a hub for statewide organization. Here is the invite link to the discord: https://discord.gg/bwnZx4gvr8 If anyone has any questions feel free to ask! hi @everyone, here is a draft message for communication about the bills. please send this to all the queer people and strong allies that you know. (edited)
Nico (she/her) 12/08/2022 2:21 PM
Hey I think the first link to the bills is still incorrect in this message
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/08/2022 2:27 PM
fixed
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Can someone pin it?
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) pinned a message to this channel. 12/08/2022 2:28 PM
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Nico (she/her) 12/08/2022 2:28 PM
also did we wanna add 276 to the message?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/08/2022 2:30 PM
done
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Nico (she/her) 12/08/2022 2:31 PM
thanks athena!
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just trying to go through contacts I have, I can get in touch with some orgs in NC if any of you think that may be helpful.
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Victor (they/them) 12/09/2022 1:23 AM
Yeah that def would be good. In case these do pass, we will need strong connections in NC for people under 21 to have help getting meds
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I can't be certain of what the state of organizing is there right now, I remember back in May when they overturned Roe there was some post-left group there that was directing a lot of energy towards infighting, that has apparently been causing issues for everyone from DSA to PSL. But the people I know will know more about how that situation has developed.
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Thought that just occured to me: we should reach out to doctors and providers of gender affirming care
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great idea
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I bet the "authority" of their degree etc could convince some people this is a bad idea
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Victor (they/them) 12/09/2022 12:26 PM
Very true
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Also has anyone reached out to WREN yet? (edited)
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WhichWitch17 12/09/2022 12:27 PM
I know someone who’s an in state gender therapist. They help people get HRT and do advocacy stuff. If you want me to reach out to her I can try
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Victor (they/them) 12/09/2022 12:29 PM
I will not be able to help much with organizing over the next few weeks since I'm getting top surgery but if someone wants to create a google drive and then an excel sheet with drs in SC who do gender things and their contact info, that would be a great start. Also we do need to focus on who is on the committees that these bills go before because stopping them in committee is best option
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I can also make a list of therapists and mental health professionals most likely
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Victor (they/them) 12/09/2022 12:35 PM
There might exist a list already on sites for helping trans people find doctors
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Yeah i would also just ask a bunch of my mom's friends that i know aren't transphobic
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Is Sarah still working for usc mental health?
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I think she would be a really good ally bc she's got good trans therapist connections
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/09/2022 12:38 PM
We can pull lists of doctors from the harrier hancock center too
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They have several lists on their website (edited)
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I'm adding some of this stuff to the meeting agenda
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I think a good goal for the meeting is to get a list of tasks we want to work on
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And people assigned to those tasks
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Can someone else make sure they can get on the notes?
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should pin it so it's easier to get to
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seb it/they pinned a message to this channel. 12/09/2022 12:41 PM
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Can someone else make sure they can get on the notes?
Victor (they/them) 12/09/2022 12:43 PM
It's on view only mode
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hm wack one sec
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try now :)
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not me using my deadname email
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i need to change that lol
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I won't be able to make the meeting, but will there be a recording and/or notes for it?
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yes, also you can add to the agenda if there's something you'd like us to discuss too
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@char can you add any of the journalismy stuff you've done to the meeting agenda, i'm not really sure what all you've done so far
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Victor (they/them) 12/09/2022 12:55 PM
It still says view only for me
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hmmm
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tactics putting pressure directly on committees create a signal for otg organizing get businesses to divest reach out to other orgs WREN contact professionals to write letters/push back therapists doctors use harriet hancock list
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try this?
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lol cool
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i'll update the pin
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Victor (they/them) 12/09/2022 12:56 PM
That works!
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i think i'll add some of the ideas i was given on building social transitioning support networks.
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probably won't be able to get into contact with the people from NC until after the meeting
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seb it/they 12/09/2022 1:01 PM
also pretty please don't discuss anything illegal in the google doc tied to me :)
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nah, nothing illegal in these resources
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seb it/they 12/09/2022 1:02 PM
(no one is, just want to be really clear about that lol)
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Victor (they/them) 12/09/2022 1:04 PM
I added my notes since I cant be at the meeting tomorrow. Based on these proposed laws, it would still be legal for people to get prescribed hormones in NC so that is a network of resources we should build up. Ie the where/how of getting prescribed in NC
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@seb it/they this is from the same guy I got that list of resources from, probably best to direct quote:
[10:30 PM] Also buy guns and trying to get people to do security to protect the clinics that you exist as violence against them will probably increase after this is passed. And those clinics are our only source of healthcare for trans people, even outside of hrt. We need them, even as they betray us. [10:31 PM] I would also try to advocate hospitals to try and pressure them into having doctors who are somewhat knowledgeable about trans medicine in emergency rooms so that, when those clinics are gone, we can still be treated for broken bones or septic uteri
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seb it/they 12/09/2022 1:22 PM
hm i think we should probably directly contact planned parenthood then
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they already have clinic protections in place i think
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i know there are other providers who provide gender affirming care though
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ack ill be at work for the meeting >:(
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@char can you add any of the journalismy stuff you've done to the meeting agenda, i'm not really sure what all you've done so far
i can make the meeting now!
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seb it/they 12/09/2022 4:40 PM
cool, could you still update the notes so we have some framework lol
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i don't see the message for pronoun selection?
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#role-assign
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...this is what I see, if you insist that it is there I will try restarting discord
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/09/2022 5:43 PM
i am perplexed
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Maybe try restarting? It’s definitely there for me
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Zenith (they/them) 12/09/2022 5:43 PM
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now i see it
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/09/2022 5:44 PM
sorry about that
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dunno what happened
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probably on my end... cant stand the new font so i have betterdiscord installed
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/09/2022 5:47 PM
pronouns will also now display as the primary color of your user
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unless you're an uncool organizer
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Zenith (they/them) 12/09/2022 5:48 PM
Wooo
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/09/2022 5:49 PM
oh and if anyone has accessibility notes about the colors i selected let me know
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@George (He/They) hey this is Luke from Gamecock Lutheran
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George (He/They) 12/09/2022 6:46 PM
Hello Luke thank you for joining!
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You’re welcome 😊
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/09/2022 6:57 PM
welcome to the team yall
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seb it/they 12/09/2022 7:01 PM
if y'all haven't seen we've got a meeting scheduled tomorrow at 12
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Have a good meeting today folks!
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 12/10/2022 1:01 PM
question re: meeting minutes. what's the diffrence between the red and black text?
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robin (they/it) 12/10/2022 1:01 PM
black was planned red is what actually happened
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or was added in the meeting
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seb it/they 12/10/2022 1:03 PM
athena and i are making a gmail account currently so we can get a more intensive drive set up
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I’m gay
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Hey so if we're gonna make a coalition there's some foundational stuff that needs to get done. (1) most importantly there needs to be some kind of unifying principles we all have consensus on. (2) we need to have some ideas of what exactly we are going to be doing with said coalition so we don't have a million conflicting ideas and projects. (3) we need a means by which it is possible to remove coalition members. Of course to do any consensus for all this we need to get all the orgs involved in said coalition with people as organizers and more actively represented. We're gonna have to get representatives regardless of whether we can vouch for them or else it's not really a coalition. If you're willing to represent your org it would be great if you could reach out to an organizer that would be great so we can put this together
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Sorry I know that's not super well said or formatted it's been a long few days and I'm just trying to get stuff going (edited)
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Written points of unity would be awesome
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We don’t have to agree on everything, but if we as a statewide coalition are going to organize, we should have concrete agreements and goals we are working towards
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@everyone hey y'all we're trying to get this place a bit better organized to make sure we can communicate as a coalition rather than just 100+ individuals. If you're part of an organization that would like to sign on, it would be great if you could get a representative so we can figure out how best to run this show and what each organization can contribute (even if it's just people that's worth a hell of a lot) and how to utilize the resources we have available to each of us
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/10/2022 9:35 PM
a great start would be every org that has a role putting forward a representative
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who do i have to talk to about getting my club a role
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i may have missed it
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i see now nvm
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i'll talk with the rest of the coladsa excomm abt it at our meeting this week
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This doesn't have to be a tonight thing if y'all need time to talk with your people but it will be easier in the long run
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I'll just go ahead and unilaterally appoint myself as representative for Upstate SC SRA. Once we get a new CO in place (couple weeks from now) they may replace me, or not.
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ill ask my club about it
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who do i have to talk to about getting my club a role
You’re from Winthrop SSU right?
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Sexuality and Gender Acceptance Club (SAGA) at Central Carolina Tech in sumter
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im also part of DSA columbia
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Ah okay cool
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we'll pause on the role and communication for saga because some of us dont want to get in trouble with our college and we have to consult our advisor about it (edited)
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cctc is like stubbornly Apolitical about everything
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tell them that "being apolitical" is, inherently, a privileged position in support of the status quo, and watch their brains explode
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personally im super fucking against the apolitical stance they take but we just dont want to get into hot water with the college
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they dont allow any political candidates, hosting political talks etc etc no political clubs (edited)
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what a shame, i guess you'll just have to do mutual aid and direct action instead šŸ™‚ but yeah definitely get that cleared up
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QUESTION FOR REFERENCE: Is anyone in here a trained legal observer?
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@SherHyatt do you know if you could get Gary Votour in here?
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https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5v9b7/lgbtq-youth-are-under-attack-why-are-democrats-pushing-a-bill-that-hurts-them-even-more a ton of big organizations are already acting against this, but we should keep track of this bill. if it passes it could make organizing a lot more difficult, and this would be a lame duck period bill
The Kids Online Safety act won’t make kids safer, but it will give bigots new tools to attack queer and trans kids.
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@lissie ! (pls ping) they/she Are you in contact with any organizations in NC? That's mainly what we've been trying to do in NC so far.
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@lissie ! (pls ping) they/she Are you in contact with any organizations in NC? That's mainly what we've been trying to do in NC so far.
lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 12/12/2022 11:32 AM
I’m not unfortunately
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I have a guy I know trying to get me into contact with a few orgs but that may take a while
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Hey Lissie you should try to talk to @char and @Logan (he/him) about social media stuff
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They were the main people working on that i think
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Although other people had also mentioned it
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Also if this takes too many spoons don't worry about it, i just thought you might be interested in helping
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lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 12/12/2022 11:34 AM
I’m interested in helping and social media is something I can do, I’m just worried I won’t be able to help much in many ways.
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That's okay šŸ’™
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We're going to have an organizational meeting pretty soon
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im taking a social media break rn for my mental health so im unable to post or make accounts but i can do graphics
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/12/2022 11:43 AM
i get that, it would be nice if someone would take over that asap
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@drhead i’m from NC so i could ask around if any of my UNC charlotte friends want to join and if they know any orgs we could work with up there!
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WhichWitch17 12/13/2022 10:15 AM
In person or via discord
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Discord
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WhichWitch17 12/13/2022 10:16 AM
Alright cool
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Would you all be able to make an announcement channel? It will help make sure that messages like this doesn't get buried
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Hayden (he/they) 12/13/2022 10:19 AM
Would it make more sense to push the date back to early next week in order to give people time to clear schedules?
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What’s a time that works for people early next week?
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Would you all be able to make an announcement channel? It will help make sure that messages like this doesn't get buried
Done
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Hayden (he/they) 12/13/2022 10:21 AM
We don't necessarily have to do that if Friday works, I just want to make sure as many people can attend as possible
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I think y'all should do after 5 so folks can be off of work
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Assuming 9-5
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/13/2022 10:22 AM
ive been using #deleted-channel as announcements
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someone can rename it if they want
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I made an announcements channel
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/13/2022 10:27 AM
can we move it to the information bracket
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Did that as well
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Changing this to Monday at 6, gonna do the same ping but in #announcements
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Realizing now that works better for me than my original time
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okay so the sunday meeting will focus on mutual aid?
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or do we just want to cancel that meeting???
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i cant make the monday meeting
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Focusing on mutual aid on Sunday sounds good
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People have limited energy especially for online meetings so making meetings focused on specific topics would be good
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Hayden (he/they) 12/13/2022 11:25 AM
What are some specific topics for Sunday? I'm thinking 1. internal mutual aid and 2. community defense
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lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 12/13/2022 11:33 AM
With my illnesses I’m never sure how I’ll be especially in the evening but I’ll try my best : )
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How are all the gay radical people in my phone doing? This bill is hard, there’s a lot going on
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well, we're doing comprehensive reorganization of the entire SRA presence in the state, so that's something I guess
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/13/2022 6:56 PM
Yay
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I am volunteering
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I promise i will not teach the robotics children how to make weapons of mass destruction
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i will
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
I promise i will not teach the robotics children how to make weapons of mass destruction
Why not?
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Matt Cox he/him 12/13/2022 6:57 PM
Localized and targeted destruction, no promises
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
I promise i will not teach the robotics children how to make weapons of mass destruction
i can actually go to meetings this semsester
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/13/2022 7:06 PM
Tay
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Yay
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seb it/they 12/13/2022 8:12 PM
I'm still traveling ;-;
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My flight has been delayef
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Kind of surprised they haven't commented on the bills yet but WREN seems to be waking up. I'm guessing they're waiting for the next legislative session to start again because they like to do their actions at specific meeting times of committees or legislatures https://twitter.com/WRENetwork/status/1603028105190326273?s=20&t=j8wS4rYOd8wgU6wWzUZojA
Are you signed up for our action alerts? Sign up here: https://t.co/6pcBA1xwq6
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There are definitely more guns on the pro-LGBTQ side than there are across the street.
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seb it/they 12/15/2022 8:33 AM
Just months after beginning his attempt to remove transgender youth from their families, Texas AG Ken Paxton attempted to compile a list of every transgender person in the state who had changed the gender marker on their driver's license. No one knows why. https://t.co/uSkLYF1oLF
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/15/2022 10:29 PM
does h3551 look like the house version of s243 to anyone else? (edited)
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yeppp
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From skimming it it does look functionally the same
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it also looks very similar to a previous detransition bill the pushed i believe
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/15/2022 10:30 PM
this one is very specific i notice
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it blocks specific treatments
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From skimming it it does look functionally the same
importantly this one is only minors, not under 21
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/15/2022 10:31 PM
that was 243 too (edited)
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this looks like a more specific and outlined version of s243
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like they did the bare minimum wikipedia research on what hrt is
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Did 243 specify doctors? This one doesn't and it looks like it would cover DIY hormones as well
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from my reading it would onyl cover someone giving hormones to a minor
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I don't think it would criminalize a minor giving themselves diy hrt
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it does specify that it would apply to non-doctors under (3a) (edited)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/15/2022 10:37 PM
really trying not to cry
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And it seems that 243 is specific to physicians only, it does not cover pharmacists (or other providers of medications) or anyone else.
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ughhhhhhhhh
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ughhhhhhhhh
infinicommune 12/16/2022 11:16 AM
So true
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It's still a better idea to make things as hard as possible for any trolls
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And not a good idea to make everyone's info accessible like that
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I agree folks should introduce themselves, putting it in a locked channel is just a tiny bit more secure and so we should do that
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Hayden (he/they) 12/16/2022 11:21 AM
Yeah I don't think anyone is asking for full names a gps coordinates, but just a brief intro even with just a screen name and what you are into
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Yeah that's fine, just locked channel is still better for that
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Plus that's somewhat what people are already doing in #deleted-channel
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I'm not sure how what you want is different Hayden tbh
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Hayden (he/they) 12/16/2022 11:22 AM
I guess the question is how do we vet people to get to the secure channel if we don't know who they are
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I mean we're already "vetting" in #deleted-channel
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Literally asking name org pronouns
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WhichWitch17 12/16/2022 11:23 AM
It really wouldn’t be safe to just let anyone have near full access to the server the second they join. But in all honesty it’s hard to fully gauge people by a short blurb.
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This needs to be a signal discussion please
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Affirm
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In my experience with modding other servers it's pretty easy to spot obvious trolls
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If someone wants to actually infiltrate they will get in
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WhichWitch17 12/16/2022 11:24 AM
Yeah of course it’d weed out obviously trolls. I was more concerned about the people who genuinely wanted to infiltrate. It’s near impossible to prevent that
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Bc trolls will have like a pepe pfp and they'll say something like "hi I'm ihatethegays and my pronouns are suck/this" or something like that
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The solution to that is to make infiltrators do boring shit
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Make them edit emails
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Until we trust them irl/know them bettet
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WhichWitch17 12/16/2022 11:25 AM
You sure that’d work?
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That's why the community building part of this is important
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seb it/they
I mean we're already "vetting" in #deleted-channel
Hayden (he/they) 12/16/2022 11:25 AM
Unless I'm missing something, isn't #bill-introduction read only?
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Not to new members
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Back to the capitalism mines I go. Ping me if something comes up
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#deleted-channel
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Not #bill-introduction
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Two different channels
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I need to go shower and shit
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WhichWitch17 12/16/2022 11:27 AM
Ok see you in a bit then
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we have an introductions, verification, and welcome channel. idk how to fix that but it seems bloated. discord is not my strong suit tbh
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WhichWitch17 12/16/2022 11:28 AM
They all do vastly different things.
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Hayden (he/they) 12/16/2022 11:28 AM
It just seems like a catch 22. In order to know if someone should have access to the locked channel, they have to share info that they would otherwise want in the locked channel
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I mean everyone has already introduced themself in the #deleted-channel channel to get in
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Excluding people who joined in the inetial rush
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WhichWitch17 12/16/2022 11:29 AM
Introductions let’s actual people introduce themselves. Welcome is so the other channels don’t get clogged or a conversation doesn’t get interrupted by someone joining the server. Welcome is just a blurb about the server and what we’re trying to do
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Hayden (he/they) 12/16/2022 11:30 AM
So is there some way we could do some kind of introduction in one of those chats given that people have been vetted?
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Maybe in one that deletes on a reoccurring basis
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Seems unnecessary
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seb it/they
I mean everyone has already introduced themself in the #deleted-channel channel to get in
A-A-Ron (they/them) 12/16/2022 11:32 AM
FWIW, I don't think I did. I don't remember doing that, and I can't see the channel. So there may be a good group of ppl who are in the same boat.
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Hayden (he/they) 12/16/2022 11:33 AM
What part? I'm just suggesting that we try to get to know new people
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FWIW, I don't think I did. I don't remember doing that, and I can't see the channel. So there may be a good group of ppl who are in the same boat.
If you joined before a certain point we didn't have it set up yet
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Hayden (he/they)
What part? I'm just suggesting that we try to get to know new people
Imo the only real way to do this is through mutual aid/hangout type stuff
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I don't really have the memory to remember a bunch of people's names etc from introductions, but if i hangout with folks I'll actually know them
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Hayden (he/they) 12/16/2022 11:56 AM
Yeah that makes sense. I just know that a concern that was brought up is that a few people are driving most of the discussion. It seems like there are a lot of people not associated with an org in here and giving them a chance to just state where they are and what they are interested in contributing to can build more buy-in than just lurking in discord
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And it would give them the impotus to join those hangout activities
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Why don't I go ahead and set up a hangout event
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What would folks want to do
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Let's do a hangout
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 12/16/2022 12:23 PM
Would there be a good idea for a digital hangout or something? Game night...voice chat...something of that nature. (In addition to an in person)
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I think we should keep stuff digital for covid reasons currently
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Cases are real bad rn
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Yeah let's just chill out in VC
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I'll hop on when I get back from my job(tm)
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 12/16/2022 4:33 PM
If I have to read "normal" or "healthy" or anything else like that one more time...
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But, also, getting the bros down for the cause šŸ˜‚
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Matt Cox he/him 12/16/2022 4:38 PM
Bro down for the cause, Bro
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seb it/they 12/16/2022 4:51 PM
Happy early birthday lol
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/16/2022 4:54 PM
i strongly encourage everyone to leave a terrible review on verdin's farm and garden center, make some shit up and have fun : )
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Matt Cox he/him 12/16/2022 5:10 PM
We who are about to troll salute you
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 12/16/2022 5:28 PM
If y'all can help me out with a call and email template by Tuesday that would help lol. Lots of them aren't used to doing political stuff.
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But, ultimately I can handle it if not. No pressure.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/16/2022 5:30 PM
theres a lot of email material hanging around in the #org-building folder
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 12/16/2022 5:31 PM
Great, thanks!
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robin (they/it) 12/16/2022 7:38 PM
who reviewed the garden center under the name Gay Angry Space Dorito because that is a ridiculous name lol. also verdin is going to catch you /j
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i strongly encourage everyone to leave a terrible review on verdin's farm and garden center, make some shit up and have fun : )
UnhingedRESOLVE!!! 12/16/2022 7:47 PM
Why tho? /genq
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I mean I totes will but like whats thee reason?
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Nico (she/her) 12/16/2022 7:48 PM
Owned by Daniel Verdin, sponsor of 2 of the bills
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seb it/they 12/16/2022 7:48 PM
Because hes a Nazi and is a sponsor of the transphobic bills
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robin (they/it) 12/16/2022 7:48 PM
deserves to be trolled and get less business
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UnhingedRESOLVE!!! 12/16/2022 7:49 PM
Oh cool! Any way I did drop a negative review about one how they threw up on a TV I carry on my back (-which I don't but it's for a noble cause!-)
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robin (they/it) 12/16/2022 7:51 PM
^your name is even worse i cant
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^your name is even worse i cant
UnhingedRESOLVE!!! 12/16/2022 7:51 PM
Who me?
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robin (they/it) 12/16/2022 7:52 PM
What do dis do OwO zed worth the chheese .....
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UnhingedRESOLVE!!! 12/16/2022 7:53 PM
Yep thats me lmaooooo!
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/17/2022 11:22 AM
Gonna be in the woods and unavailable for the next 24 hrs
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Enjoy the woods
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Don't freeze
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Matt Cox he/him 12/17/2022 11:32 AM
I am in Anderson at the Starbucks that is protesting unionbusting. There are a lot of folks that would like to join up here. Can I share the discord link?
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yes!
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Matt Cox he/him 12/17/2022 11:53 AM
OK this may be old man problems, but I can’t figure out how to get the link. Can somebody put it in here so I can share it? The mobile version is so much more difficult for me.
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@Matt Cox he/him https://discord.gg/esyEhgkA here!
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Matt Cox he/him 12/17/2022 12:09 PM
Thank you! Got it out to someone will get more contacts
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ill be at the meeting but ill be a bit late! im getting a piercing
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seb it/they 12/17/2022 6:41 PM
Cool
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Terrible news in South Carolina. An appropriations bill forced Medical University of South Carolina to shut down its gender clinic for trans youth. States are going after hospital funding to close clinics nationally.
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CHARLESTON, S.C. (WCBD) – The South Carolina Freedom Caucus said Friday the Medical University of South Carolina (MUSC) is shutting down its pediatric transgender clinic. The group, which is made u…
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Fuck
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Fuck indeed
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Matt Cox he/him 12/17/2022 10:05 PM
Guess it’s time to step up the calls
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seb it/they 12/18/2022 2:53 AM
We should reach out to the doctors in this clinic and ask them to write letters about why this is bad
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I bet they are both passionate and informed already
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seb it/they
We should reach out to the doctors in this clinic and ask them to write letters about why this is bad
They're probably already doing that, I'd bet. If that is the case though, maybe they could send us a copy for us to use/quote in our materials?
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seb it/they 12/18/2022 8:37 AM
It's a good idea to make sure and try to work together
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Matt Cox he/him 12/18/2022 10:05 AM
Does anyone readily have a good source on detransition/transition regret statistics? I'm writing an open letter to the freedom caucus and it would go in there. I also would like to know if I should write this letter myself or on behalf of OAT. Either way I would be happy to receive feedback. I feel like being able to write as a cisgendered, 40-year-old dad I can speak to them as "one of them" in a lot of ways, but if anyone thinks it would be better to come from the group, I can do that too
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I'm fairly sure the latest trans census has these stats
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It's under 1% from last i remember but that was a bit ago
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The USTS documents the lives and experiences of trans and nonbinary people ages 16+ in the U.S. and U.S. territories.
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It's worth looking at the data more in detail as well bc it details people who detransitioned due to social pressures etc
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It's under 1% from last i remember but that was a bit ago
Matt Cox he/him 12/18/2022 10:07 AM
That's what I understand, too, but thank you for providing the link.
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It's worth looking at the data more in detail as well bc it details people who detransitioned due to social pressures etc
Matt Cox he/him 12/18/2022 10:08 AM
That is very much what I want, too! Thank you!
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The percent of people who detransition because they actually just don't want to medically transition is extremely small
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Let me like actually pull up that section
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I'm only seeing the 2015 report huh
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I think they were doing it every 5 years but got messed up by covid
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Matt Cox he/him 12/18/2022 10:10 AM
The front page seems like they are putting out the new one
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It's also probably a good idea to highlight the experiences of trans people of color
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since they will be worst affected by any criminalization of hrt
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Let me get on my laptop so i can wade through this report lol
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pg 112
Thirteen percent (13%) of respondents reported that one or more professionals, such as a psychologist, counselor, or religious advisor, tried to stop them from being transgender. Eight percent (8%) of respondents had de-transitioned temporarily or permanently at some point, meaning that they went back to living as the gender they were thought to be at birth for a period of time. The majority of respondents who de-transitioned did so only temporarily, and 62% were currently living full time in a gender different than the one they were thought to be at birth. Respondents who de-transitioned cited a number of reasons for doing so, including facing too much harassment or discrimination after they began transitioning (31%), having trouble getting a job (29%), or pressure from a parent (36%), spouse (18%), or other family members (26%).
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pg 115
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so yeah 5% of 8% is the number who detransiiton because "transition is not for them"
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which is 0.4% of the overall trans population (edited)
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@Matt Cox he/him does this help?
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Matt Cox he/him 12/18/2022 10:17 AM
So much. Thank you! This will help get it out quicker
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Matt Cox he/him
Does anyone readily have a good source on detransition/transition regret statistics? I'm writing an open letter to the freedom caucus and it would go in there. I also would like to know if I should write this letter myself or on behalf of OAT. Either way I would be happy to receive feedback. I feel like being able to write as a cisgendered, 40-year-old dad I can speak to them as "one of them" in a lot of ways, but if anyone thinks it would be better to come from the group, I can do that too
also just processed your question here, i think it would be best to write it with your name, but make it clear you're part of OAT
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10:18
i really appreciate you doing this
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Matt Cox he/him 12/18/2022 10:18 AM
Can I make myself Official Dad of OAT? lol
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lol i'm fine with that
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Matt Cox he/him 12/18/2022 10:19 AM
ChairDad of the Board
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i could use an extra dad
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as i think could a lot of other folks here
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Matt Cox he/him 12/18/2022 10:20 AM
Well, for what it's worth, I can play catch or teach you to box. Not much for fishing.
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i hate fishing lol
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i do want to learn how to box though
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Was screaming in my apartment and making actionable threats against [redacted] but then my cat came in to calm me down
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aw good kitty
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my cats have also been calming me down
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do yall want to see my chaos creatures
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Now I'm making actionable threats against [redacted] but now my cat is here
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Matt Cox he/him 12/18/2022 10:21 AM
Real talk, I've been thinking about self-defense stuff. I was a competition fighter and have vast experience in martial arts. I would be happy to do some hand-to-hand self defense basics, or a boxing for workout and fashfaces
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could you make it accessible?
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Matt Cox he/him 12/18/2022 10:22 AM
With some patience, yes
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i've got some disabilities that make most martial arts really hard for me (my hands dislocate) and i've been trying to figure something out
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i'm also currently looking into buying a firearm :)
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Matt Cox he/him 12/18/2022 10:22 AM
The self-defense would be more about joint locks and grappling, since most fighting is in close anyway
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seb it/they
i'm also currently looking into buying a firearm :)
Matt Cox he/him 12/18/2022 10:23 AM
I support that, but cannot help as I have never fired a gun
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I did some Krav and Boxing with one of the people here
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seb it/they
i'm also currently looking into buying a firearm :)
infinicommune 12/18/2022 10:23 AM
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Oh! I can help with the firearm.
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my grandpa is helping me
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Guns are my particular strong suit
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lol i might dm you some questions later then
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@Sasha has also been helping me bc it is super cool
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Biggest piece of advice for long guns Don't buy a fucking AK.
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infinicommune 12/18/2022 10:25 AM
They are so cool tho
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Matt Cox he/him 12/18/2022 10:25 AM
I've been thinking about learning some basics, like stripping a firearm and un/loading, more for what to do if I have to take a gun and return fire or something, but that is going to take some effort to schedule. If someone organized a thing where we could avoid reactionaries in shooting ranges and such, I would be down
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one thing i want to discuss is doing an OAT specific firearms class
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infinicommune 12/18/2022 10:25 AM
Stupid and expensive and 7.62 is impossible to get cheaply but
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So neat
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Matters little. The amount of work you need to do to bring an AK up to an AR's standards is wasted when you could just get an AR like everyone else.
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i was going to bring this up in the meeting today
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I also have a fuckton of AK ammo but it's kind of sketchy and unreliable (fucking PSA) I think somewhere in the ballpark of just under 500 rounds
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infinicommune 12/18/2022 10:26 AM
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But it's basically just wasted space at this point
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@Matt Cox he/him it might also be a good idea to include stuff from the "expereinces in school" section of the report
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this particullarly seems like it might be relevant
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it's also damn depressing
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Hell we could do a crash course on shooting. Some PA people have gotten some (albiet limited) tactical training which includes moving and shooting as well as practical gunfighting marksmanship. Could get together and replicate the lessons and teach people the ropes if anyone was interested
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that would probably have to come later, i suggest we discuss this in the meeting lol
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are you coming Priest?
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Where and when?
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today online at 5
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5? Mmmmmaybe, there's some stuff going on but If I can be there I will be
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If you don't have a weapon I do have a rifle I can train people on
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lol i think plenty of people have weapons, we should be careful about we disclose on discord
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just as a general reminder
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i don't mind talking about gun stuff it's just a thing to be extra cautious about
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don't think you're crossing a line or anything just reminding people this is public lol
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Heheheh
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Well, the instruction is available to those interested.
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sign me up lol
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i think something like that goes after the very most basic stuff though
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many people here have probably never been in the same room as a firearm
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First things first needs to be medical
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yeah i know csoc is working on getting a training set up in cola
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and have been for a while
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Also yeah the first lesson would be more of a class going over the basics of guns to people who are entirely unfamiliar
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we're also working on ifak distribution
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but i'm not sure how that should/would fit in with OAT stuff
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Well, excluding the TQs which are gonna be expensive an IFAK can be put together for around 55-60 bucks
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yeah we're looking into bulk purchase of some stuff etc
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athena has done a majority of the work on that, but she's in the woods atm
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Gotta be careful about bulk TQs since the cheap ones have flimsy capstans that break when you look at them wrong
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yeah that's something we weren't going to buy in bulk
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just the bandages seals etc
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I know the surplus store down in charleston typically has quality ones for a reasonable price AND the owners/staff are aligned with us
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oooo
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i may need to go on a road trip
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The two main guys at the store are Bernie Libs that are sympathetic with our causes. That being said, it's still a surplus store so there's chud shit there of course, but, it is what it is
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til the army is the queerest branch
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infinicommune 12/18/2022 10:49 AM
Gotta get those numbers down
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this data is super interesting lol
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i'm just a data nerd so i just started reading the whole report
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a lot of it is really bleak
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>:(
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Matt Cox he/him
Real talk, I've been thinking about self-defense stuff. I was a competition fighter and have vast experience in martial arts. I would be happy to do some hand-to-hand self defense basics, or a boxing for workout and fashfaces
Victor (they/them) 12/18/2022 10:56 AM
I think this would be really awesome and useful. Especially in our day to day life, most people will not be carrying guns on them and having knowledge of other ways to defend against harassment or attacks is really important. We tried to organize a self defense workshop when I was on the IRIS board, but the people we contacted were transphobic so we didnt end up doing it. I probably couldnt attend a workshop until February because I'm currently healing from top surgery
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how's that going vic :)
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seb it/they
>:(
infinicommune 12/18/2022 11:01 AM
Where is this from
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transgender census 2015
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the website is linked here if you want to look at the full report
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Victor (they/them)
I think this would be really awesome and useful. Especially in our day to day life, most people will not be carrying guns on them and having knowledge of other ways to defend against harassment or attacks is really important. We tried to organize a self defense workshop when I was on the IRIS board, but the people we contacted were transphobic so we didnt end up doing it. I probably couldnt attend a workshop until February because I'm currently healing from top surgery
Matt Cox he/him 12/18/2022 11:03 AM
Congratulations on getting the surgery! I hope the convalescence is going well. I'm trying not to get too distracted today, there are so many fires to put out, but I would love to talk about this later. If we want to make a separate server/channel for self-defense, maybe we could do that
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i think that sort of thing should go in #mutual-aid
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WhichWitch17 12/18/2022 11:04 AM
I think a separate channel for it would probably be good too though
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Either way works honestly
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Matt Cox he/him 12/18/2022 11:04 AM
Maybe a subchannel under MA?
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we can definately make one i just want to avoid channel creep
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Matt Cox he/him 12/18/2022 11:04 AM
MAMA, Mutual Aid Martial Arts
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WhichWitch17 12/18/2022 11:04 AM
Valid.
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it can get overwhelming to new members
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seb it/they
how's that going vic :)
Victor (they/them) 12/18/2022 11:04 AM
Going well. I'm in the itchy phase where I really wish I could shower. My drains come out tuesday so I'll be through the worst of it then.
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did you like your surgeon?
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WhichWitch17 12/18/2022 11:05 AM
Hey glad things are going well Vic.
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i need to start like actually looking for a doc
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Matt Cox he/him 12/18/2022 11:05 AM
There are people in the IWW who were talking about self-defense. Maybe a separate server would be a good thing, everyone interested could join and not clog up other server business. Suggested name: Listen to Your MAMA
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i'd be interested if someone else made it
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Victor (they/them) 12/18/2022 11:06 AM
Yeah I liked him. He does informed consent and was better than the other options. But hes in nashville which was a difficult and long trip to make. I can dm you the website i used to help search for surgeons
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i do know we were looking to do more trans specific mutual aid stuff here
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Matt Cox he/him 12/18/2022 11:06 AM
I would appreciate someone taking point on the server, but I can if no one else is available.
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which we'll try to organize more in the meeting today
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Yeah I liked him. He does informed consent and was better than the other options. But hes in nashville which was a difficult and long trip to make. I can dm you the website i used to help search for surgeons
please
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or you could post it in #medical-resources if you're comfy
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Matt Cox he/him 12/18/2022 11:07 AM
I will try to make the call, I have another at 6:30, and I don't want to avoid my family all day
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oh yeah no sweat
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just trying ot make sure folks actually know about it lol
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you can also edit the meeting agenda if you want anythign specific to be discussed and i'll be taking detailed notes
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i added a bit about a nonfirearm oreinted self defense course
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seb it/they 12/18/2022 4:31 PM
@everyone meeting in 30 mins
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pinky they/she 12/18/2022 8:45 PM
I would be down for self defense stuff
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do we know who organized the trans field day that happened a while ago / does anyone else remember that
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SC united
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@everyone meeting in 24 minutes
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Watson Brown 12/19/2022 5:58 PM
I'm a few minutes out. Will get on as soon as I get home
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robin (they/it) 12/19/2022 6:26 PM
i was trying to go to the meeting but some issues came up so ill just read the meeting notes after
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seb it/they 12/19/2022 7:45 PM
lmk if you have any questions about what happened
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the notes are somewhat incomplete in parts
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 12/19/2022 11:50 PM
Thank you!
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We should make something to go against this too
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@legislature research can y'all start figuring this one out?
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We should make something to go against this too
Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 9:55 AM
If we can make some businesses aware of this, they may put the effort into it without us having to spread resources thinner.
09:55
Dennys, Milliken, TD Bank are known allies.
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seb it/they 12/20/2022 9:55 AM
We have #deleted-channel, but no one really knows how to do that effectively
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 9:55 AM
It's a work in progress
09:56
I'll talk to Upstate LGBT Chamber and ask for guidance.
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seb it/they 12/20/2022 9:58 AM
I think for some other antiqueer bills divestment threats were very effective
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If we're dealing as someone slimy as politicians, we have to find someone as slimy as a large corporation to twist their arm
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Yeah it sucks though i don't really want to work with large businesses either
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I think that's a large part of the reason that channel has been more inactive
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None of us really have experience or motivation there even though it could be effective
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 10:00 AM
I agree. Republicans always talk about jobs growth. A business threatening to take jobs away (or campaign donations) may get a Republican's attention more than us screaming at them will
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I don't put a ton of energy into this either, but I do have contacts in allied businesses, and I don't mind at least floating an email to see if they bite. As far as spending weeks begging for meetings? No, I'm not gonna do that.
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Business engagement did help kill the anti-CRT bills this year though.
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Businesses can help but only if it aligns with their goals. Like I've had some success with franchise owners of some businesses donating food to give to homeless people because it made them look good and people wanted to support that business due to it. You basically gotta hope that they see your goal as profitable in some way. I would also narrow down the list to whatever corporations have supported pride in the past. You might get more luck with them.
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Yeah that's the general plan i think
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 10:06 AM
Yes - the Upstate LGBT Chamber of Commerce can help with supportive businesses in the upstate. The ProTruth coalition just made a uniform sign-on letter and had businesses sign it. It makes the ask easier if all you have to do is get a signature from a decision maker.
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Hayden (he/they) 12/20/2022 10:10 AM
I can start digging into the boycott legislation today
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Hayden (he/they) 12/20/2022 10:11 AM
Keep in mind with this we aren't relying on them actually divesting, just the threat of doing so can be effective
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 10:12 AM
No it's definitely a reasonable concern - which is why I suggest something simple like a sign-on letter. Minimal energy needed
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Hayden (he/they) 12/20/2022 10:13 AM
You're not wrong, and to put in my own cynicism, I get the feel that kind of pressure would be more effective than stock standard yelling at the state house holding signs. How many issues have defaulted to those strategies and gotten nowhere
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Why do I keep changing color lol
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Athena is fixing roles so that colors reflect what org you're part of and not your pronoun
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 10:19 AM
yeah that works
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Hayden (he/they) 12/20/2022 10:19 AM
Oh cool. It was like every message I was a different color
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 10:19 AM
ok mods will now default to their highest color role
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we also probably need more mods so its not just seb and i letting everyone into all the stuff (edited)
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God please do not let me be lime green
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Hayden (he/they) 12/20/2022 10:23 AM
Also that dark garnet is brain melting against the dark grey discord background
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 10:23 AM
ill change it
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pls everyone let me know if there are accesibility problems with any of the colors
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Y'all my voice sounds just the tiniest bit deeper and I'm so excited :)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 10:58 AM
yoooo did you take the T? (edited)
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Yes i have been for like 4 weeks lol
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 11:00 AM
Yay! I will send all my remaining beard hairs your way
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Lol i don't want a beard maybe we can find another trans person who wants them more
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Hayden (he/they) 12/20/2022 11:00 AM
A regular James Earl Jones
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Oooo okay maybe i do want a beard
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Lol
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I should get like the mutton chops
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 11:02 AM
beard like a union general
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Hayden (he/they) 12/20/2022 11:12 AM
Beard like burnside, not decision making like burnside
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We don't want a protest to go down like marye's heights at Fredericksburg
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Matt Cox he/him 12/20/2022 11:13 AM
What about Sherman, I heard his beard was so fire, he left the south in ruins šŸ”„ šŸ”„ šŸ”„
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Hayden (he/they) 12/20/2022 11:17 AM
Go with the Joseph hooker sideburns, fights confederates and pro-sex work
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Ideal
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 11:18 AM
at least post pictures for reference yall
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Hayden (he/they) 12/20/2022 11:26 AM
He got the "kill 14k dudes for no reason" look
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 11:26 AM
YEEEEES
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Matt Cox he/him 12/20/2022 11:26 AM
ā€œI came here to brush muh beard and kill rebs, and as you can see, beard is on pointā€
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The jowls on that man
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Impressive
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Hayden (he/they) 12/20/2022 11:31 AM
Don't do the Greeley neck fur
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
pls everyone let me know if there are accesibility problems with any of the colors
https://webaim.org/resources/contrastchecker/ id just recommend checking with this. Dark mode background is #36393E. Shoot for a contrast ratio of at least 4.5:1, ideally 7:1
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If you can get 7:1 then it meets the highest web accessibility standards. At least as long as nobody uses light mode...
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Thank christ for this server. I just tried to organize some of my local friends against the stuff happening in state, but I'm really underequipped and unexperienced at it. Really grateful that I can pull on the resources and coordination here.
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/20/2022 12:35 PM
Yeah I was feeling a little alone and I'm even connected with a bunch of orgs. Seeing grass roots stuff popping up like this already is very encouraging to me
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I should get more involved with my local orgs tbh
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Matt Cox he/him 12/20/2022 2:33 PM
I'm writing the script for calling legislators. Can someone help with points we want to emphasize and resources to back them up? I imagine the USTS will have a lot in there
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seb it/they 12/20/2022 2:33 PM
if you put it in the google drive i can help write/edit
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although i'm doing other stuff atm
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 2:34 PM
ill help too
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Matt Cox he/him 12/20/2022 2:34 PM
No worries, so am I
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seb it/they 12/20/2022 2:34 PM
matt you have access to thedrive right?
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Matt Cox he/him 12/20/2022 2:34 PM
I do, I'll upload it in just a sec
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It's uploaded. Please DM me any issues that should be changed (assuming you can't change them yourself, idk if it will let you)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 2:42 PM
what folder is it under
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found it
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Matt Cox he/him 12/20/2022 2:42 PM
Outreach>Legislators for anyone else looking
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 2:42 PM
we have a legislation folder and a legislation outreach folder, seems overly redundanty
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Matt Cox he/him 12/20/2022 4:37 PM
The phone script has been started in the Outreach>Legislators folder. I would like to thank my collaborators, whose Google handles I didn't recognize and will let them identify themselves. They did a lot with the extremely rough draft I put in to make it useable. We have a basic argument to use when someone is willing to listen. It may be a little long, so if anyone wants to trim it, feel free. Brainstorming some counterarguments to objections raised would be a good idea. Anyone who wants to look at what we have so far and add any common "but what about ____" arguments and suggestions on how to counter them is appreciated. When we start making the calls, we will likely want to update the script. I suggest we take some time to review it and edit it and have some kind of meeting either later this week or early next to discuss whether it's ready or not. Thoughts?
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Matt Cox he/him
The phone script has been started in the Outreach>Legislators folder. I would like to thank my collaborators, whose Google handles I didn't recognize and will let them identify themselves. They did a lot with the extremely rough draft I put in to make it useable. We have a basic argument to use when someone is willing to listen. It may be a little long, so if anyone wants to trim it, feel free. Brainstorming some counterarguments to objections raised would be a good idea. Anyone who wants to look at what we have so far and add any common "but what about ____" arguments and suggestions on how to counter them is appreciated. When we start making the calls, we will likely want to update the script. I suggest we take some time to review it and edit it and have some kind of meeting either later this week or early next to discuss whether it's ready or not. Thoughts?
Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 12/20/2022 4:39 PM
i don't see that folder; what channel is it in?
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Matt Cox he/him 12/20/2022 4:39 PM
Pressure your representatives, pinned comment
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 4:42 PM
its not actually in there one sec
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ok now its there
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hi everyone
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seb it/they 12/20/2022 9:56 PM
Hi
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Logan (he/him) 12/20/2022 9:57 PM
yo
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been dealing with fleas in my bed so i was very sleep deprived but i hope to be significantly more active now, im reading around everything and yall will (probably) see a lot more of me
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seb it/they 12/20/2022 9:58 PM
Oof that sounds really rough
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ooo yeah that sucks
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pest infestations are never fun
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Hayden (he/they) 12/20/2022 10:02 PM
My dad once went to a pet store to get those flea fumigation bombs and he went to a person and asked "do y'all sell bombs... for fleas?"
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Like an uncomfortable length of time between bombs and fleas
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my brother once told me about some really spicey hot sauce while in the airport and told me he couldn't name it without getting security guards to jump him 😳 that was an interesting conversation lol
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 10:12 PM
8 year old me was the kid who would yell bomb in an airport because i wanted to
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my brother once told me about some really spicey hot sauce while in the airport and told me he couldn't name it without getting security guards to jump him 😳 that was an interesting conversation lol
Da bomb?
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probably? i dont remember sndmsnd
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it was something with bomb in it
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Jonah Glover 12/21/2022 10:55 AM
The hottest I have ever had is "Pain"
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go like and share
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we should have a trans heart emoji for this server. not pressing at all but still
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/21/2022 4:31 PM
if people wanna send me images for emotes ill add them
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pick a heart any heart
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seb it/they 12/21/2022 4:31 PM
All of them
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/21/2022 4:31 PM
i cant turn those into emotes
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i can give you the file dw
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/21/2022 4:32 PM
i need a jpeg or a png
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yeah thats why i was asking you to pick
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grabbing the files brb
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/21/2022 4:32 PM
ohhhhhhhhhhhhh
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I like the one with the gold sparkles
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ask and you shall recieve
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i also have
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transmeow
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trans_pride
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antifatrans
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i have so many trans emojis
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homie you are strapped up with trans emojis
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seb it/they 12/21/2022 4:37 PM
i need the hammer and sickle one
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and the antifa one
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pls pls pls all i want for christmas is sick trans emotes
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does this work?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/21/2022 4:42 PM
wrong file format
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should work now
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/21/2022 4:44 PM
819136812073091074
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yay
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homie you are strapped up with trans emojis
you have no idea
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TPA_Trans_Gameboytrans_kittenTransCrabtranscommietranscomfetransButterflytransguntransnyatranspentagramtransoltltranssockstransturtle9021_TransBeetransraccoonTPA_TransButterflyTPA_TransBerry_WingsblobtransfemletransratscalatransscalatranshetteeniTransFlagbeetransatranssheepTPU_Pokemon_DittoTransTPU_Minecraft_SoupTrans
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i have probably >100
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transButterfly2
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robin (they/it) 12/21/2022 4:49 PM
i love trans rats <3
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TPA_Trans_NoUTPA_Trans_YouTooTPA_Trans_OopsTPA_Trans_Based
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
i cant turn those into emotes
can we do enby ones too since trans umbrella
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we need a blahaj emote
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translemon
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we need a blahaj emote
blahaj blahaj blahaaj
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can we do enby ones too since trans umbrella
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/21/2022 6:39 PM
Course
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Just start slinging some png’s
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Blahaj BlahajHug BlahajTinyHeart BlahajBlanket BlahajHeart BlahajPrideHeart BlahajSadReach
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aTransFlag pensive_trans_pride transCroc (edited)
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Is that a ferret omg
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Yeah, it's trans ferret poggers
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I need to learn rust
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WhichWitch17 12/21/2022 11:04 PM
What’s with y’all and just having the best emotes-
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I love it
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enbee GoodBean HappyTransShork heartShorkRight cth1_transpoggers cth_transbingus cth_transfloppa cth_transrathappy meowtrans cth_transroach TransCarl transCommunism TransFerris TransGhost transGuillotine transSame transSolidarity transuminati
check our servers in common lol
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wait do you know ferrets (edited)
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check our servers in common lol
Oh I'm barely active on that one
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me neither
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It just seems boring
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im just there for the resources
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/22/2022 8:11 PM
i am once again going to attempt to have my legal documents changed
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gl Athena!!!
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/22/2022 8:13 PM
i have ordered several birth certificates and ill probably go to sled after christmas
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solvent (they/she) 12/24/2022 8:54 AM
oh damn this servers bigger than i was expecting sick (edited)
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seb it/they 12/24/2022 8:58 AM
Yeah it got big fast
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solvent (they/she) 12/24/2022 9:01 AM
so glad to see people organizing, was feeling pretty hopeless tbh
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seb it/they 12/24/2022 9:03 AM
Yeah it's pretty overwhelming and soul crushing
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solvent (they/she) 12/24/2022 9:04 AM
was really hoping we had a year more at least until stuff in SC really stated to go to shit but its all happening pretty fast
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well, even more shit than SC already is lol
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Yeah I’m glad we’re all here for eachother
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Logan (he/him) 12/24/2022 9:06 AM
yea queer solidarity and community is important durin shit like this
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Jonah (SC CPUSA) 12/24/2022 7:55 PM
Hey have pictures from last night been posted/linked anywhere yet?
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I found photos here, there are Faces in them though so if you’re in these and dont want to be maybe message the photographer
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Jonah (SC CPUSA) 12/24/2022 7:59 PM
I don't mind my face being in them, but it's something everyone involved should check to be sure.
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Merry Christmas everyone
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Matt Cox he/him 12/25/2022 8:34 AM
Make the Yuletide gay y’all. Merry Xmas
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George (He/They) 12/25/2022 10:55 AM
And don all your Gay apparel!
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Can I get the PNG for that intersectional hammy-siccy emoji? Also do you have different versions?
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oh, in case anyone missed it on christmas day: https://twitter.com/MyTPU/status/1607058912993284097
Early this morning, two Tacoma Power substation facilities were attacked in east Pierce county. Currently, 7,300 customers are without power as a result. Law enforcement has been notified. We are working as quickly and safely as possible to restore power. https://t.co/DsH127j1sY
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solvent (they/she) 12/27/2022 4:08 PM
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yes cutting power to thousands is praxis šŸ¤”šŸ¤”
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any word on a motive or who did it?
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cnn frames it as a """"""burglary"""""" and """"""vandalism""""""
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we don't know who did it and most likely will not know at least for some great length of time if ever, but at least to me it seems pretty obvious that if three power stations are attacked at once, it's coordinated, and probably domestic terrorists doing it.
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it's been about as long as I would expect it to take for other groups to learn from the north carolina attack and plan their own. i would be careful on new years and january 6th, i would not be surprised if multiple independently coordinated attacks happen on jan 6
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solvent (they/she) 12/27/2022 4:15 PM
wait if it happened on christmas then this must be that war christmas ive been hearing about
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yeah, doing an accelerationism on christmas day is a particularly smooth-brained move on their part
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fascists are unbelievably stupid at times though so...
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I know there are a lot of anarchists in here, so here's ABC's of Anarchism, kids version
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Put that in #news
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Need to adjust perms on that channel
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I'll put it and any future somewhat relevant stories like it in there once I have permissions to use the channel
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It should be working now
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So this is a big tent coalition; one which has grown pretty rapidly. As such, let us all take a moment and remember why we are here before we feel tempted to engage in the time honored leftist tradition of the circular firing squad. Peace and love y’all. (edited)
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it's been about as long as I would expect it to take for other groups to learn from the north carolina attack and plan their own. i would be careful on new years and january 6th, i would not be surprised if multiple independently coordinated attacks happen on jan 6
Watson Brown 12/27/2022 5:02 PM
There had been other, less successful attacks on substations in the PNW in late Sept., before the Moore county attack, and the idea goes back to the Turner Diaries.
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oh yes, i'm aware of the history behind it. i have been drawing a distinction between those attacks and the coordinated simultaneous attacks that have to be planned because that part is new and overall far more concerning
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Sorry i haven't been more active yall
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Family stuff is bogging me down
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It's all good, gotta give yourself time to rest and handle other things if we want to keep a project like this going šŸ™‚
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/28/2022 11:18 AM
yeah ive been taking a break too
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think a lot of us needed it
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humblepirate 12/28/2022 2:14 PM
Good afternoon friends! As some of you may have heard, Mira Bellwether, author of the zine Fucking Trans Women, passed away a few days ago after a long struggle with cancer. If you would like to purchase a PDF of the zine, you can do so here: http://fuckingtranswomen.org/ I personally struggle to read on screens, so I was planning to print it out for myself and make copies for friends who are unable to purchase the zine. For each copy I make I will donate to the family. I contacted Mira's partner Callan and got their permission to do so. They'll be getting back to me in a few days with details on where money can be donated (currently Mira has a live GFM for her treatment and the money is now going to medical and funeral expenses, but I don't trust GFM). If anyone would like a physical copy, I can afford to make up to five of them and I will mail them to you for free and donate in your name! If you have purchased the zine and want a physical copy but don't have access to a printer, please send me proof of your purchase and I'll mail you a copy. DM me if you have questions 🄰
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Oh shit, I actually hadn't heard she'd passed... fuck.
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humblepirate 12/28/2022 2:27 PM
Yeah it was on Christmas 😄 At least she passed peacefully in her loved ones' arms. Y'all, make sure you let the trans women in your life know every day how much you support and love them ā¤ļø
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Good afternoon friends! As some of you may have heard, Mira Bellwether, author of the zine Fucking Trans Women, passed away a few days ago after a long struggle with cancer. If you would like to purchase a PDF of the zine, you can do so here: http://fuckingtranswomen.org/ I personally struggle to read on screens, so I was planning to print it out for myself and make copies for friends who are unable to purchase the zine. For each copy I make I will donate to the family. I contacted Mira's partner Callan and got their permission to do so. They'll be getting back to me in a few days with details on where money can be donated (currently Mira has a live GFM for her treatment and the money is now going to medical and funeral expenses, but I don't trust GFM). If anyone would like a physical copy, I can afford to make up to five of them and I will mail them to you for free and donate in your name! If you have purchased the zine and want a physical copy but don't have access to a printer, please send me proof of your purchase and I'll mail you a copy. DM me if you have questions 🄰
Thanks for the rec, just bought it
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I have another book rec, any chance we could do a book channel or something like that?
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seb it/they 12/28/2022 5:20 PM
it's probably fine to just add that here rather than make a new channel
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Alrighty, I just wanted to recommend this. Talks about discrimination, history, stonewall, etc
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10000% off topic but. Is it better to wait to make credit card payments or is it equally good if i pay it immediately?
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I'd try to never let it accrue interest, your cards go on your credit score as % utilization. A lower percent is good for your credit because it shows available credit. (edited)
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Jonah (SC CPUSA) 12/30/2022 1:28 PM
Making payments is better for your score than paying it at once. Infact paying off in it's entirety can make your credit score go down
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10000% off topic but. Is it better to wait to make credit card payments or is it equally good if i pay it immediately?
Victor (they/them) 12/30/2022 2:01 PM
I have 1 credit card and I have it set up with autopay so the full balance is paid every month from my debit account. On time payments every month is what helps build good credit. Do not pay it off before they have issued the bill at the end of the month, or it wont count for anything.
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Happy new year (preemptively)
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Nico (she/her) 12/31/2022 10:46 PM
Happy new year, I miss the funny gay people in my phone
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Yeah same
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happy new years yall !!!
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The state Supreme Court has thrown out South Carolina's law that bans abortions at roughly six weeks into a pregnancy, calling it unconstitutional. https://t.co/VK1hK2d212
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/05/2023 11:40 AM
YUP!
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Hayden (he/they) 01/05/2023 11:40 AM
Hell yeah
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Let's hope that they knock out the death penalty too
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Jonah (SC CPUSA) 01/05/2023 2:50 PM
Our State Supreme Court has found a right in our Constitution which was never intended by the people of South Carolina. With this opinion, the Court has clearly exceeded its authority. The people have spoken through their elected representatives multiple times on this issue.
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George (He/They) 01/05/2023 2:59 PM
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CnDaXZ7sxTg/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY= anything we can do to support those in Oklahoma?
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here’s the actual post for those who don’t want to click the link
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/05/2023 10:58 PM
saw this
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i dont know what i have in me personally (edited)
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south carolina's already a lot
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yeah that’s definitely understandable, I don’t want you to get burned out
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We should make a social media post in solidarity
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/05/2023 11:08 PM
yeah
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i have precisely 22 minutes until my meds put me out for 8 hours so i can help in the morning
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Yeah we can deal with this tomorrow for sure
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I’m free all tomorrow so if you all need anything just give me a ping
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Mhm
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If people see mutual aid stuff coming out of OK share it in here too so socials can boost it
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Matt Cox he/him 01/06/2023 8:31 AM
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So a video came across my feed this morning from that Milo wannabe that was in N Charleston
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I'm struggling to comprehend that comment
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My brain will not parse it at all
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The commenter is (jokingly) wondering if they’re high class enough to perform sex work for Corey Allen (local fash in Charleston)
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Pls don’t dox yourself
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Matt Cox he/him 01/06/2023 11:31 AM
Oh they didn’t know it was me but I’ll be more careful in the future
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This is a publicly accessible discord server and your real name is in your account
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Sorry for being a bit uptight about this
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Matt Cox he/him 01/06/2023 11:46 AM
The saying, ā€œbetter safe than sorryā€ exist for a reason. I appreciate you.
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seb it/they 01/08/2023 9:31 AM
Back from family :3
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I can finally do shit again
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welcome back seb
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seb it/they 01/08/2023 9:34 AM
Yeah I'm also in town if anyone wants to hangout (although I'm pretty busy already ;-;)
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 9:34 AM
Time to learn!
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seb it/they 01/08/2023 9:35 AM
I've got anatomy this semester I'm scared
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im actually on my way back to Columbia rn im in cayce
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seb it/they 01/08/2023 9:36 AM
Oh i learned how to knit
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/08/2023 9:36 AM
i gotta go get books n stuff
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seb it/they 01/08/2023 9:36 AM
Idk if you saw @regan-they
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yarn reveal!!
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/08/2023 9:37 AM
i am still tired after yesterday
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seb it/they 01/08/2023 9:37 AM
One sec let me grab my knitting bag
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 9:37 AM
https://bigwords.com/ For cheap books if other means are not available
Buy cheap college textbooks by comparing prices with BIGWORDS.com. Save $1,000/yr finding the best prices to buy, sell, or rent textbooks anywhere online. BIGWORDS.com is the best way to buy or sell textbooks
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/08/2023 9:37 AM
oh i completely forgor textbooks fuck
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seb it/they 01/08/2023 9:38 AM
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those colors are gorge! that looks nice
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robin (they/it) 01/08/2023 9:38 AM
i like yarn work
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i do crochet though
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oh me 2
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robin (they/it) 01/08/2023 9:39 AM
i also do embriodery
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im still a beginner though
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seb it/they 01/08/2023 9:39 AM
Crochet is next on my list
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I'm a beginner embroiderer
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robin (they/it) 01/08/2023 9:40 AM
i dont know what the difference between beginner and intermediate ... and stuff are but i just see things in my mind and figure out how to make it
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ive been into tapestries lately
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oooh nice
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robin (they/it) 01/08/2023 9:41 AM
i made a frog and fish skeleton one and now im working on a girl
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THATS AWESOME
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robin (they/it) 01/08/2023 9:42 AM
i have so many projects im working on. maybe we should do oat project days?
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thatd be pretty neat
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im working on a granny square sweater currently
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robin (they/it) 01/08/2023 9:43 AM
ooh
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ive have been thinking about making one of those
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seb it/they 01/08/2023 9:43 AM
It's so good
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I also do mending
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So if anyone has clothes they want mended i will do it (for anyone in cola)
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hehe yes pls
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seb it/they 01/08/2023 9:44 AM
Seriously just dm me and send photos of the clothes
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Rn My mending pile is pretty large though so it might take me a seconf
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im working on a granny square sweater currently
robin (they/it) 01/08/2023 9:45 AM
i made one for a friend a while ago but it turned out a bit smaller than i expected
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 2:53 PM
Who wants one
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Hayden (he/they)
Who wants one
Omg where did you get those? I need some for my megaphone
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 2:53 PM
A source
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People say what they want, I'll put em in an envelope with your name
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I need the yallidarity and the black and red slick antifa
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 2:55 PM
The black and pink flag under trans iww has a gun on it, I'll take a better one in a sec
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Did you make em, can I compensate?
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 2:55 PM
I got them from Jacklyn, I'm just the post office for them
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they're all @Kiral 's work (:
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Omg where did you get those? I need some for my megaphone
keep ur megaphone plain for opsec imo
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Hayden (he/they)
People say what they want, I'll put em in an envelope with your name
I would love one of the antifascist ones!
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 3:00 PM
Specify
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I'm not picky any of them work for me
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 3:01 PM
Sold
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ty :)
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i can make more if we need em at my work, or make any other new design, just lemme know ^^ [ps that batch wasnt cut great so you kinda have to dig to peel the sticker off šŸ’€ ]
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Matt Cox he/him 01/08/2023 3:06 PM
I assume you've made the calculations, but you're sure that is a safe thing for you to do at work?
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 3:07 PM
Just print more with guns, they'll leave you alone
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AwakenedWorldCat im good :p i work alone in an isolated corner of a warehouse/printshop on second shift
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 3:16 PM
Slightly better pic
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 3:16 PM
Sold
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seb it/they 01/08/2023 3:18 PM
can i have the queer antifa one
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 3:19 PM
Gun or no gun
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Gun also says "soda city" on it
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seb it/they 01/08/2023 3:20 PM
no gun
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 3:20 PM
Sold
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 3:33 PM
I still have many left
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Step right up
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robin (they/it) 01/08/2023 3:34 PM
i would like a yallidarity
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and a pink antifa w/out gun
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 3:35 PM
Okay
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seb it/they 01/08/2023 3:35 PM
oh wait can i have several
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like 5?
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 3:36 PM
Of what
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seb it/they 01/08/2023 3:36 PM
queer antifa no gun
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 3:36 PM
Yeah I've got a decent stack
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seb it/they 01/08/2023 3:38 PM
I've also got literally a thousand 1 inch x 2 inch trans flag stickers
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If anyone wants some just lmk
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/08/2023 3:38 PM
Cooool
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 3:39 PM
It looks like a measuring tape where trans is the metric
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/08/2023 3:39 PM
How many trans stickers does it take to cover a trans person
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Important questions
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Hayden (he/they)
It looks like a measuring tape where trans is the metric
Based
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
How many trans stickers does it take to cover a trans person
At least 7
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 3:43 PM
"bro we can't walk that far, it's like 24 million transes away"
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/08/2023 9:07 PM
hello all
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hope you're having a good night
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seb it/they 01/08/2023 9:07 PM
athena and i have talked
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and we've decided that we probably need an extra mod to help us out
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/08/2023 9:08 PM
^^^^
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seb it/they 01/08/2023 9:08 PM
how would yall like to select who gets to be a mod?
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and is anyone interested?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/08/2023 9:08 PM
we are very open for suggestions on who it should be and how we should go about the process
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seb it/they 01/08/2023 9:08 PM
neither of us are sure what to do yeah
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ig if you're interested say something here or dm me or athena
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seb it/they
athena and i have talked
robin (they/it) 01/08/2023 9:12 PM
guys the parents are disappointed
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seb it/they 01/08/2023 9:13 PM
lol
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robin (they/it) 01/09/2023 1:04 PM
oatklahoma
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oatklahoma
Matt Cox he/him 01/09/2023 1:54 PM
Where the wind comes sweeping fash off the plain!
nice 2
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seb it/they
I've also got literally a thousand 1 inch x 2 inch trans flag stickers
Yo can I snag like 20 from you??
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seb it/they 01/09/2023 4:10 PM
Yes
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You'll be in town for the class no? I'll get them to you then
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Yee yee, thank you so much!
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I don't know anything about SC IRI
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IRIS
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It’s basically not a queer affinity group at UofSC because that’s silly it’s a student org don’t mind the edit (edited)
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It’s not really an affinity group
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It’s a student org
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Yes this
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My words are not very good at this time
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/09/2023 7:43 PM
IRIS is basically USC's GSA
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but cooler because i never know what GSA means
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What is this, alphabet soup
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seb it/they 01/09/2023 7:44 PM
It's gay college students
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
but cooler because i never know what GSA means
I’m pretty sure most of our members don’t know what IRIS stands for either 😭
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seb it/they
It's gay college students
Beautifully put
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Bernie has discord mod experience on other servers
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This is true. I’m not confident about most things, but that is one area I do feel relatively experienced in and could help with.
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I’m pretty sure most of our members don’t know what IRIS stands for either 😭
Individuals respecting identities and sexualities?
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WhichWitch17 01/09/2023 8:09 PM
Yay.
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You got it right
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Individuals respecting identities and sexualities?
You are a legend and a hero
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šŸ™‹ā€ā™€ļø i also have several years of modding exp (: the other thing is, rn both mods are based on usc campus. maybe we want someone not in college to cover gaps when school gets busy?
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Anyone going to this? I'll be in cola that night, looks fun
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Sam McKenzie 01/12/2023 12:09 PM
Ayyy that's my show! I'm Han D. Mann
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Hayden (he/they) 01/12/2023 12:09 PM
Hell that does seem legit
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What's the cover
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Sam McKenzie 01/12/2023 12:11 PM
$10
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Hayden (he/they) 01/12/2023 12:11 PM
Hmm
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Sam McKenzie
Ayyy that's my show! I'm Han D. Mann
Fuck yeah, nice, me and my partner are gonna go
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Probably bring some friends
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Anyone going to this? I'll be in cola that night, looks fun
Matt Cox he/him 01/12/2023 12:53 PM
Finally something we can all go to for enjoyment, not potentially defending people from violence šŸ˜µā€šŸ’«
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You know, unless it comes up...
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Matt Cox he/him
You know, unless it comes up...
Doubtful, it's pretty chill there, there's lots of drag shows happening all the time, but the fash don't pay attention and they freaked out about that one because it was a tour
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Matt Cox he/him 01/12/2023 2:00 PM
And of course the Christmas theme
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WhichWitch17 01/12/2023 2:01 PM
who doesnt love "putting the drag back in christmas"
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seb it/they 01/12/2023 2:01 PM
Put the Hrt in christmas
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christmas without hrt is just cismas
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WhichWitch17 01/12/2023 2:02 PM
and who wants that?
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not me
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Matt Cox he/him 01/12/2023 2:04 PM
Honestly if I had to go to drag show or a nativity play, I'd say go sling your manger
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Kudzu
christmas without hrt is just cismas
HOLY FUCKING SHIT (edited)
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That's genius, for the rest of my life that's my favorite Christmas joke
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thanks, I stole it from tumblr lmao
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you can't steal from tumblr, it's god's gift to the internet
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As a communist, I support the seizing and redistributing jokes and memes, as I do not believe in intellectual property
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Matt Cox he/him 01/12/2023 2:30 PM
From each according to ability, to each according to meme
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Caboose
As a communist, I support the seizing and redistributing jokes and memes, as I do not believe in intellectual property
the hoard of treasures in my camera roll agrees with you
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Bernie
the hoard of treasures in my camera roll agrees with you
I think I have like 10k pics and videos on here... and so many pdfs lol, like I deleted all tge games off my phone for storage and now it's all books and videos šŸ™ƒ
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seb it/they 01/12/2023 2:32 PM
I have to take a whole class on IP this semester;-;
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Matt Cox he/him 01/12/2023 2:32 PM
Object on religious grounds
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seb it/they 01/12/2023 2:32 PM
It's like "how to become a big pharma employee: the class"
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seb it/they
I have to take a whole class on IP this semester;-;
Like the computers?
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seb it/they
I have to take a whole class on IP this semester;-;
oh fun! Fantasy is such a fun topic to learn about
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Like the computers?
seb it/they 01/12/2023 2:33 PM
Intellectual property, not internet protocol lol
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I'm imagining someone taking a whole college class to learn how to format their home address now... like "so the zip code comes last? Interresting"
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seb it/they 01/12/2023 2:34 PM
Lol
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Zip codes did confuse me for the longest time as a child
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I still don't know what the numbers after the dash are for after a zip code lol
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Caboose
I still don't know what the numbers after the dash are for after a zip code lol
so the main five number zip code shows where the letter should be sent in terms of state to region to blocks of addresses in that area, and the four digits after that can narrow it down even more to specific blocks or buildings. I've never used one but I know some businesses like them bc they can make sorting and delivery go faster
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so the main five number zip code shows where the letter should be sent in terms of state to region to blocks of addresses in that area, and the four digits after that can narrow it down even more to specific blocks or buildings. I've never used one but I know some businesses like them bc they can make sorting and delivery go faster
Hmmmm.... only a mail person would know that... real quick is usps feds?! šŸ‘€ sus /j
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they do have mail cops šŸ’€
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Wait what, that can't be a thing lol
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WhichWitch17 01/12/2023 2:44 PM
Also bernies secretly a cop
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thats why they know
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USPIS, they don't fuck around from what I hear
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seb it/they 01/12/2023 2:45 PM
you know they got someone real bad when the usps gets them
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yeah they're pretty brutal
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No, Paul blart was a MALL Cop
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Matt Cox he/him 01/12/2023 2:45 PM
MCAB
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almost every agency has their own enforcement officers but for the agencies you wouldn't think have cops, it's the sort of thing where they rarely come into play but if the mail cops show up? they know EXACTLY what you did and you're fucked
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WhichWitch17 01/12/2023 2:46 PM
nothing more dangerous than an angry mail cop (edited)
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Matt Cox he/him 01/12/2023 2:47 PM
There was a Brooklyn 99 episode about USPIS, sadly no GIFs on hand. I feel failed, internet
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Also bernies secretly a cop
wow if you hate me just say so ;-;
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WhichWitch17 01/12/2023 2:47 PM
no Bernie i love you but you have to be honest with people
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Bernie Sanders was a CI
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Caboose
Bernie Sanders was a CI
WhichWitch17 01/12/2023 2:48 PM
you mean Bernies favorite person?
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Matt Cox he/him 01/12/2023 2:48 PM
betrayal
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I just made it up and have 0 proof, but prolly lol
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Matt Cox he/him 01/12/2023 2:49 PM
Using the FOX verification system, eh? "Is that true?" "Probably!"
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Idk, think about it, Bernie was at protests then became a congress person. That's enough for me lmao
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Bernie Sanders is a menace Not a month has gone by since 2016 when I haven't been the victim of a Bernie Sanders joke. That old man doesn't know it, but he's my arch-nemesis.
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Jonah (SC CPUSA) 01/12/2023 2:55 PM
Oh no
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We had a "shipping incudent" when a usps LEO came to my work last month lmao It is illegal to use usps pallets for any other use and they will shoot you lol
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seb it/they 01/12/2023 2:57 PM
what's a LEO? (edited)
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seb it/they
what's a LEO? (edited)
Law enforcement officer
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seb it/they 01/12/2023 2:58 PM
ah
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Mailman, but with a gun šŸ”«
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seb it/they
what's a LEO? (edited)
someone born in late July/early August
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Matt Cox he/him 01/12/2023 3:10 PM
Sup, my wild OATs? As you are all aware, Saturday is the first session of the unarmed self-defense class. Many of you have had questions about what to expect, myself included. I've put together a small syllabus (sure you student types are super happy for another one) to give everyone an idea of what to expect. Please feel free to ask any questions about anything, here or in DM. Check the event for date/time/place. Looking forward to it!
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seb it/they 01/12/2023 3:11 PM
(i'll repost this is #announcements for you )
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(but edit your name into it as well :))
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or actually
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Matt Cox he/him 01/12/2023 3:13 PM
TY!
seb it/they pinned a message to this channel. 01/12/2023 3:14 PM
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Matt Cox he/him 01/12/2023 3:16 PM
I have sent it to the other groups I'm in as well, the more the bashier!
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Does anyone need to carpool to the class tomorrow?
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If you need a ride I can drive you
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Matt Cox he/him 01/13/2023 12:07 PM
I will be traveling from near Irmo, so I can also pick folk up
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anyone from lexington who needs a ride hmu (edited)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/13/2023 7:23 PM
I would not mind riding with friens
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From Hayden laye’s twitter
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This snuck up on us
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Someone start researching the language of HB 6316 and how it defines drag please
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probably the same as all of the other copy-pasted bills in several other states, I would imagine
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I'm not seeing a 6316?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/13/2023 10:03 PM
on it
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They are not copypasted
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i must not be good at this
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/13/2023 10:03 PM
It’s the wrong bill number
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Ah okay cool
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/13/2023 10:03 PM
It’s 3616
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Bill Number Sponsors Summary Recommendations S.29 - https://www.scstatehouse.gov/billsearch.php?billnumbers=29&session=125&summary=B Sen. Hutto A BILL TO AMEND THE SOUTH CAROLINA CODE OF LAWS BY ADDING CHAPTER 140 TO TITLE 44 OF THE SOUTH CAROLINA CODE, TO PROVIDE THAT A WOMAN MAY HAV...
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These are all the bills we’re tracking
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ofc they couldn't type the right bill number
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"Drag show" means a performance in which a performer exhibits a gender identity that is different than the performer's gender assigned at birth using clothing, makeup, or other physical markers and sings, lip syncs, dances, or otherwise performs before an audience for entertainment, and is intended to provide sexual stimulation or sexual gratification which are distinguished or characterized by an emphasis on matter depicting, describing, or relating to nudity or state of nudity, seminudity or state of seminudity, specific sexual acts, or specific anatomical areas.
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so... a bunch of shit that drag shows open to children already don't do?
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(not that I expect it to be enforced in good faith)
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It would remove public funding from any venue that hosted drag shows I think I may be misreading I’ve got a lot going on rn
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/13/2023 10:07 PM
thank you for this list
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this is so broadly worded, I hate it it's well made, but trash
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/13/2023 10:07 PM
i think another bill on here that oat in particular needs to fight is s332 https://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess125_2023-2024/bills/332.htm
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Matt Cox he/him 01/13/2023 10:07 PM
Taking ā€œDiscernably Turgid Stateā€ for a band name dibs
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/13/2023 10:07 PM
marriage licenses must say "bride and groom" according to s332
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Oh wow that’s an interesting one
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/13/2023 10:08 PM
they know they cant win an explicit gay marriage battle so they're being cruel (edited)
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This feels like one of those things they want to pass and battle up to the supreme court to undo gay marriage
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/13/2023 10:10 PM
i dont get that vibe
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cause it doesnt officially challenge the marriage
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it requires that at least one person misgender themself to get a license
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i think?
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Bride and Groom, to me, feels like explicitly making it exclusively heterosexual. But then again ig they're not legal terms
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i remember my husband and i had a chuckle over deciding who got to be husband #1 and husband #2...
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/13/2023 10:11 PM
it absolutely is but its the other wording
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i remember my husband and i had a chuckle over deciding who got to be husband #1 and husband #2...
who won?
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i'm husband 1
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/13/2023 10:12 PM
i feel like id take no 2 as a power move
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i am THE bottom
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Matt Cox he/him 01/13/2023 10:12 PM
But if you’re one flesh aren’t you both husband 1
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/13/2023 10:12 PM
perform husband voltron
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Matt Cox he/him 01/13/2023 10:12 PM
And I’ll form the head
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anyways since i already know this off hand and it's topical -- if they do overturn obergefell, same-sex marriages in this state are null ab initio -- as far as the law is concerned they never happened. but since DOMA got fully repealed you can get a marriage license from any other state that will give you one and they have to honor it as if it were their own. so, vegas drive thru wedding would be one way to do that
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/13/2023 10:15 PM
who wants to get married real quick
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
who wants to get married real quick
in sickness and in health? too bad I'm always in sick fits šŸ’…
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oh, also worth checking your health insurance and anything else like that that is shared and see how they handle same sex marriage being illegal, i know my husband's insurance allows it to be shared with a cohabiting partner as if you were married if same sex marriage isn't allowed, but that might not be the case for everyone, i think ours was one of the first to do that
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Matt Cox he/him 01/14/2023 9:41 AM
Hey comrades: A friend offered me a chance to meet Ro Khanna this Wednesday and now that I've made sure I can make it (barring some tragedy knocks on all the wood) I was wondering: Does anyone have anything they would want me to ask/tell/make him aware of? As a guest of a friend, I'll be keeping it diplomatic, but hand me any truth bombs you want me to lob
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Matt Cox he/him 01/14/2023 11:43 AM
I have just arrived at the park, the wind is a little chilly. We will try out here, and if it is insufferable, we will move into the building nearby. (edited)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/14/2023 11:44 AM
It’ll warm up too
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You guys in the parking lot?
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Matt Cox he/him 01/14/2023 11:45 AM
I am at the green space where we will be practicing. I’m in black paint stain, sweatpants, and a navy blue hoodie. There’s one other person here.
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It’ll warm up too
Matt Cox he/him 01/14/2023 11:46 AM
The sun is absolutely cozy, it’s the wind that is cutting through me
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My ears are freezing
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I might be a smidge late
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Food took longer than expected
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Matt Cox he/him 01/14/2023 11:47 AM
No worries! Anyone who hasn’t left yet, dress warm
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Did you go down the walk way by the river?
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Matt Cox he/him 01/14/2023 11:52 AM
If you cross the bridge and go right that green space on your left
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I’m walking up to the parking lot now
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/14/2023 12:05 PM
We are here
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Matt Cox he/him 01/14/2023 2:16 PM
Thank you all for coming out! We talked about doing this every two weeks, so let's go ahead and plan for Saturday the 28th at noon. If a different time will work, please let us know and we can rework it.
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seb it/they 01/14/2023 2:29 PM
Thank you for teaching the class
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I really enjoyed it
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Matt Cox he/him 01/14/2023 2:31 PM
I'm glad! I did too, did not realize how long it had been since I'd been choked like that, lol
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seb it/they 01/14/2023 2:33 PM
Are you okay lol?
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Matt Cox he/him 01/14/2023 2:37 PM
Yes, lol part of the territory!
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seb it/they
I really enjoyed it
Same here
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I might tag along next time. Sounds like yall had a good time
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Matt Cox he/him 01/14/2023 2:55 PM
We would welcome your experience!
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Small experience lol, don't expect much, but if yall got stun guns, and wanna play with em, yall can taze me and spray me and it won't affect me a whole lot
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If it needs to be practiced lmao
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Hayden (he/they) 01/14/2023 7:53 PM
I think if we are going to pepper spray and tase caboose, we should at least sell tickets as a fundraiser
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/14/2023 8:24 PM
I like this idea
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ā€œTaze a cishet man, raise money for the gaysā€
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Matt Cox he/him 01/14/2023 8:40 PM
Like a dunking booth at a carnival, but electricity
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During the Iran/Iraq War, the Iraqis would toss electrical power lines into this big ass swamp area the Iranians were trying to push through
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When the Iranians made one of their classic, banger advances, the Iraqi commander ordered the power switched on, electrifying hundreds of advancing Iranian troops
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Hayden (he/they) 01/14/2023 8:44 PM
Thanks for sharing lol
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Matt Cox he/him 01/14/2023 8:44 PM
Why fuck around if you don't have to
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Dunking booth but with electricity reminded me of that
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Cyprus
ā€œTaze a cishet man, raise money for the gaysā€
I 100% support this lmao
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found in the stall at art bar <3
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comrade kalia (she/her) 01/18/2023 5:19 PM
hewwo friends does anyone know a good place to take a cwp class in the Charleston area
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found in the stall at art bar <3
HA! Holy shit!
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comrade kalia (she/her) 01/18/2023 5:19 PM
if there’s not a queer friendly/safe place i can either pass or boymode
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My design is being used for light p r a x i s
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cwp?
comrade kalia (she/her) 01/18/2023 5:20 PM
concealed weapons permit
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Concealed Weapon Permit
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comrade kalia (she/her) 01/18/2023 5:21 PM
you can open carry with a cwp in SC - provided it’s a concealable weapon
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comrade kalia (she/her)
hewwo friends does anyone know a good place to take a cwp class in the Charleston area
https://www.blazingsword.org/instructor-list-page/ would recommend searching blazing sword, they have a list of safe instructors
Offering Gun Education to the LGBTQ Community
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I took mine at the Quickshot in Charleston if you can tolerate the dumbass boomers and their dipshitted jokes and terrible advice.
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comrade kalia (she/her) 01/18/2023 5:28 PM
thanks friends šŸ’œ (edited)
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Hayden (he/they) 01/18/2023 5:31 PM
If anyone needs one in Columbia, the local cops offer a free class
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Not great because cops, but free
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Hm. Free is enticing.
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Hayden (he/they) 01/18/2023 5:32 PM
Its city police, so I can only imagine the quality of instructorship lol
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Then again it's like saying you can get free pastrami from your local SS unit
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Enticing, but
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https://www.blazingsword.org/instructor-list-page/ would recommend searching blazing sword, they have a list of safe instructors
comrade kalia (she/her) 01/18/2023 5:32 PM
is there a way to suggest updates to this? also how do they vet instructors? looked up the three listed in my area in the SLED database and their location info is wrong
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Its city police, so I can only imagine the quality of instructorship lol
comrade kalia (she/her) 01/18/2023 5:33 PM
might b worth going to if you have weapons training already and just need the class for the permit in that case
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Hayden (he/they) 01/18/2023 5:33 PM
Yeah they also offer some pistol profiency class that is recommended beforehand, but I would definitely skip out on that
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comrade kalia (she/her)
is there a way to suggest updates to this? also how do they vet instructors? looked up the three listed in my area in the SLED database and their location info is wrong
I think it's on the instructor to update their info there... if you're not sure of their location, I would say contact the instructor. I don't have any way of knowing how they vet instructors, I haven't used any of their services myself either.
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I think it's on the instructor to update their info there... if you're not sure of their location, I would say contact the instructor. I don't have any way of knowing how they vet instructors, I haven't used any of their services myself either.
comrade kalia (she/her) 01/18/2023 5:45 PM
valid! the sled database has a contact phone number for instructors, so worst case I can call the ones listed and ask
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required slightly more effort but better than getting hate crimed
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/18/2023 6:15 PM
we need to add this bill to all our lists and website immediately
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this is the worst one so far. gender affirming care ban up to 26 years old (edited)
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comrade kalia (she/her) 01/18/2023 6:18 PM
holy shit
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ronnie (he/him) 01/18/2023 6:19 PM
Jesus Christ
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comrade kalia (she/her) 01/18/2023 6:20 PM
almost threw up reading it
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comrade kalia (she/her)
almost threw up reading it
Cass (she/her) 01/18/2023 6:45 PM
same wtf
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Lynnie (she/her) 01/18/2023 6:50 PM
Beach works for the SC Baptist Convention, so this tracks. We actually just launched a PFLAG chapter in his back yard. Interesting they define gender as a social construct. I think Beach is in the Freedom Caucus, which has vowed to gridlock the legislature if they don't get concessions this session. Hopefully that ends up being a feature and not a bug for us.
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WhichWitch17 01/18/2023 6:51 PM
i think they refer to gender as a "social construct" in this context is because it fits their needs more, its more vauge
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but thats just a guess
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Lynnie (she/her) 01/18/2023 6:56 PM
I hope the impression I get tomorrow is that this dies in committee
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Hayden (he/they) 01/18/2023 6:56 PM
In light of this bill, I'll make it to the 8:30 legislation coffee do-dad tomorrow
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/18/2023 6:56 PM
I will also be there
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i'll come as well
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WhichWitch17 01/18/2023 6:57 PM
i wish i could, but i have morning classes
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I hate getting up before noon, but yeah this is beyond ridiculous
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what is the actual event
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/ where am i meeting ppl
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comrade kalia (she/her) 01/18/2023 6:58 PM
notifying my comrades in the sc general membership branch of the iww - want me to pass along meeting info to them for coordination?
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(no is okay)
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WhichWitch17 01/18/2023 6:58 PM
i feel like the more people we have there the better
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ill try my best to be there
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its v early for me but ill try
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Lynnie (she/her) 01/18/2023 7:02 PM
I'll be dressed as a femme fatale inspector gadget
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/18/2023 7:02 PM
Theres 3 sub events too
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I'll be dressed as a femme fatale inspector gadget
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/18/2023 7:02 PM
Every time i decide to wear a dress its to fight bullshit at the capital it seems
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Ill be going fem
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i'll be there tmrw fuck this
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Lynnie (she/her) 01/18/2023 7:04 PM
I'll probably be hung over. Yay fun
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humblepirate 01/18/2023 7:05 PM
Side note,does anyone know of a group/forum/etc to get more info on actions in Charleston? I can't get to Columbia on my own but want to be involved on the ground where I can
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Hayden (he/they) 01/18/2023 7:05 PM
CHS DSA is one
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Lynnie (she/her) 01/18/2023 7:06 PM
Keep an eye on AFFA and WAF as well. One of WRENs employees live in Charleston as well so they usually turn up at events down there
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
Ill be going fem
Same. Either leather and metal or Donna Reed vibes
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Hayden (he/they) 01/18/2023 7:57 PM
Are we thinking a statement is necessary for this bill? I'll put my hat in for a draft if so
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i would like to put one out
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can help draft tmrw
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Hayden (he/they) 01/18/2023 8:21 PM
I'll get crackin
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Hayden (he/they) 01/18/2023 8:29 PM
Make sure when we publish anything about this bill we include the year, last year's h.3730 had to do with train signals
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Hayden (he/they) 01/18/2023 8:39 PM
SC House Bill 3730 Legislation Update Press Release 18 January 2023 Even as multiple senseless bills are filed for this legislative session that restrict the rights of trans individuals of our state, one bill has stood out as uniquely cruel and unnecessary. House Bill 3730 (2023) would make...
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The down payment
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Hayden (he/they) 01/18/2023 8:58 PM
I tried to be a little more bombastic
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Love the tone. Correct me if I'm wrong, but do we want to cite the US News and World Report? their methodology is a little 😐 (Idaho and Utah ranked in the top five recently)
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Hayden (he/they) 01/18/2023 9:02 PM
Oh we can look for better sources as well
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I'm sure there's no shortage of stats about how shitty this state is
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we're the best at being the worst, it's our god-given right
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We are getting to be number 1
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Matt Cox he/him 01/19/2023 2:27 AM
If I have a suggestion, it would be to emphasize that this bill, unlike other bills, does not hide behind the false notion of protecting children and exposes these actions as motivated by a desire to (CW) end trans people
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Otherwise very good!
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 9:17 AM
Its hard enough to find a healthcare provider to take my insurance, taking away licenses is just going to make it impossible for everyone to find a doctor.
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Max (they/it) 01/19/2023 11:22 AM
we are here because we read the bill, we went to an office room in a random state house building on a Thursday morning, who is this meeting for?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 11:25 AM
More people are masking now at least
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40-50%
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Max (they/it)
we are here because we read the bill, we went to an office room in a random state house building on a Thursday morning, who is this meeting for?
I guess people who don’t know? Specifics? I - Thought this would be more skills training based in terms of committee meetings and media stuff
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 12:24 PM
Has anyone gone to the truesdale medical center. It's the only clinc I could get into before my prescription runs out and I want to know if there's anything I should be worried about
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solvent (they/she) 01/19/2023 2:38 PM
my friends and i go there
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its pretty great
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better than the other clinics like PP
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would recommend
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theyll give u pretty much whatever u ask for (edited)
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 2:40 PM
Awesome to know, I got dropped by my last clinic cause my body absorbs estrogen like crazy and they got scared cause even after lowering my dosage my estrogen levels were still super high
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So they got scared haha
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solvent (they/she) 01/19/2023 2:40 PM
ah damn thats shitty
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 2:41 PM
Yeeeah. I've been surviving off of old bottles I kept and my PCM gave me a single one time prescription
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You were so powerful they got scared šŸ’€
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 2:42 PM
Honestly haha. My levels didn't even really go over what's considered dangerous, just the outdated guidelines
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solvent (they/she) 01/19/2023 2:43 PM
i was able to get my first prescription in like 3 days after my appointment
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so u should be able to get some quick if ur almost out
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my friends and i got a lil stockpile of meds too if u need some
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ColorfulKnoll
Awesome to know, I got dropped by my last clinic cause my body absorbs estrogen like crazy and they got scared cause even after lowering my dosage my estrogen levels were still super high
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 2:44 PM
Thats the worst. My body does the same and i got bounced around on merely 1mg/day for months before a doctor finally let me take a reasonably amount again šŸ«‚
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solvent (they/she)
my friends and i got a lil stockpile of meds too if u need some
ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 2:45 PM
Thankies, it's mostly just spiro I'm low on
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I need to check how much I have
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 2:45 PM
I MIGHT have spiro if you want some
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solvent (they/she) 01/19/2023 2:45 PM
i got a lot extra
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 2:45 PM
I dont use it anymore
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Im on bica now
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Thats the worst. My body does the same and i got bounced around on merely 1mg/day for months before a doctor finally let me take a reasonably amount again šŸ«‚
ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 2:46 PM
I do injections cause I forget to take pills and patches get dirty
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 2:46 PM
I do patches + pills
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
Im on bica now
solvent (they/she) 01/19/2023 2:46 PM
hows bica, u recommend switching?
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solvent (they/she)
hows bica, u recommend switching?
ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 2:46 PM
^ this
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 2:46 PM
Bica is better for me because my body makes superhuman amounts of T and so blocking the receptors is better than blocking production (edited)
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ColorfulKnoll
I do injections cause I forget to take pills and patches get dirty
You are a braver soul than I, good for you. Needles are terrifying
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 2:47 PM
This is also why my E is so high, excess T is converted to E in the body
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Bernie
You are a braver soul than I, good for you. Needles are terrifying
ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 2:47 PM
Haha, I've been poked and propded my entire life. Lots of test done cause I used to be very sickly
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 2:48 PM
I have to switch to needles bext month : /
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Im used it to as well but doing it myself is gonna be new
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
This is also why my E is so high, excess T is converted to E in the body
ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 2:48 PM
I didn't know that, that a beat little fact
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 2:48 PM
Yup
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I forget the name of the lil chemical thats responsible for it
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 2:49 PM
I'm vegtarian so that may explain the extra E. I'm not sure if phytoestrogens are taken into account during testing
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Oof. cw for needles I’ve had a needle break off inside of me twice and doctors and nurses taking minutes one time and almost an hour the other trying to fish them out with fingers and tweezers has left me with a refusal to ever. I’d like hormones, but not that much
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Oof. cw for needles I’ve had a needle break off inside of me twice and doctors and nurses taking minutes one time and almost an hour the other trying to fish them out with fingers and tweezers has left me with a refusal to ever. I’d like hormones, but not that much
ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 2:49 PM
You poor thing, I'm sorry you had to deal with that
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seb it/they 01/19/2023 2:50 PM
i don't think being veggie gives you actual E lol
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the body cannot convert phytoestrogens into estrogens afaik
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(they can be converted through industrial biochemical processes though) (edited)
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 2:50 PM
Yeah but depending on testing methods I'm not sure if it's counted as E
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seb it/they 01/19/2023 2:51 PM
it would not be
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it would not enter your blood
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Oof. cw for needles I’ve had a needle break off inside of me twice and doctors and nurses taking minutes one time and almost an hour the other trying to fish them out with fingers and tweezers has left me with a refusal to ever. I’d like hormones, but not that much
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 2:51 PM
There’s pretty much always alternatives to needles, just in case you want it
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 2:51 PM
Then my body just absorbs estrogen too easily then. Cause I was at like 654 during my last test
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seb it/they 01/19/2023 2:52 PM
yeah it could also be converting T into E like athena said
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 2:52 PM
My T is low
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seb it/they 01/19/2023 2:52 PM
hormones are funky and cool lol :)
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I’d like no hormones, sounds sexy and cool
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seb it/they 01/19/2023 2:52 PM
i actually have a friend who tried that
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you can't do it long term bc your bones need hormones
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and a lot of the rest of your body too lol
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No bones?
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Bernie
I’d like no hormones, sounds sexy and cool
ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 2:53 PM
Including stuff like cortisol?
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Me after no hormones
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seb it/they 01/19/2023 2:53 PM
become unable to feel stress or live
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 2:53 PM
That's one way to deal with anxiety
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Any sciencey people know what would happen if you had a bunch of every hormone? What’s the opposite of no hormones?
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 2:56 PM
I think death in both occasions
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But im not a sciency person
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I’m a social science person, which basically means I get to claim to be an expert on anything. My career as a public intellectual starts now
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Bernie
I’m a social science person, which basically means I get to claim to be an expert on anything. My career as a public intellectual starts now
ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 3:05 PM
The first step is a youtube account and creating beef with a fringe community
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I’ll create beef with the fringe community. It’s not coming back, stop trying to make it a thing.
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seb it/they 01/19/2023 3:05 PM
no first you need to sound like kermit the frog
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1. Take voice acting classes 2. Be a messy bitch on the internet 3. ??? 4. Profit!
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E-Z
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 3:10 PM
Don't forget step 5. Of having an invetiable downfall and disappearing in obscurity
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 01/19/2023 3:10 PM
Damn that sounds like the best career honestly
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 3:21 PM
Acne is one of the baines of my existence
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ColorfulKnoll
Acne is one of the baines of my existence
Acne is reactionary, we must unite to defeat it
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 3:23 PM
Agreed
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Sandpaper and peroxide šŸ‘€ /j (edited)
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Caboose
Sandpaper and peroxide šŸ‘€ /j (edited)
ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 3:24 PM
That's how you get rid of the bones in the bathtub
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ColorfulKnoll
That's how you get rid of the bones in the bathtub
You're young and your body is changing, you'll prolly grow out if it fr tho
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 3:25 PM
I have perfect skin majority of the time tbh. It's just this one little thing
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But ofc it has to be on the face
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WhichWitch17 01/19/2023 3:26 PM
I will say excess hormones does sometimes cause acne to appear
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I experienced that a lot and still kinda do
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 3:26 PM
I wouldnt doubt if it's stress
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I will say excess hormones does sometimes cause acne to appear
I thought that was like the primary reason it exists
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WhichWitch17 01/19/2023 3:26 PM
oh yeah thatll cause it too definitley
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I am not a doctor lol
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I thought that was like the primary reason it exists
WhichWitch17 01/19/2023 3:27 PM
hormones is a big factor yes, but also activity levels, hygiene, stress levels, and a few other factors all contribute
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 3:28 PM
Tho stress and horomones technically go hand and hand tbf
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WhichWitch17 01/19/2023 3:29 PM
very true, in some cases thats exactly it
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nothings ever one isolated variable when it comes to humans
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theyre always interconnected in some way
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 3:29 PM
Biochemistry sucks
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Max stress, hormones, activity Min hygiene Break the dial
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WhichWitch17 01/19/2023 3:30 PM
yeah its a nightmare fr
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 3:31 PM
Destroy it
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Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 3:38 PM
Any updates on this? Changes before publishing? I'm working late so I unfortunately can't really futz with it
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Then my body just absorbs estrogen too easily then. Cause I was at like 654 during my last test
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 4:15 PM
Goddamn i hold about 500
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My T has broken 1300 thougg
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 4:16 PM
My T is consistently >5L. I dont know why my E is so high
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 4:16 PM
I had to run a whole bunch of tests for mine
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They said the most likely causes are a malfunction in the testicals or a benign brain tumor
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Didnt find them
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 4:17 PM
It's never a tumor
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 4:17 PM
I know someone with this problem with a pituitary tumor
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 4:17 PM
It's an outdated movie reference
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 4:17 PM
Okay
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Im not old enough, try hayden
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 4:18 PM
Haha
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Hopefully they figure out what's producing the extra T since they didn't find the cause
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 4:21 PM
I think they have given up
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I have already had one mri in 2022 im not paying for another to check for a tumor
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 4:22 PM
Haha fair
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Those aren't fun, EKG are even worse
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 4:23 PM
My brain is struggling is that not a heart monitor
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Or is that an ECG
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 4:23 PM
Oh my bad
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I was thinking of an EEG
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seb it/they 01/19/2023 4:29 PM
It's and EEG for brain
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EKG and ECG are both heart
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My head, my heart šŸ’œ
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seb it/they 01/19/2023 4:49 PM
Just got out of a lecture on some research in my extremely small feild of research
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And there were trans people in the lab this prof runs
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Very exciting
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Hayden (he/they)
Any updates on this? Changes before publishing? I'm working late so I unfortunately can't really futz with it
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 4:49 PM
i just got out of class ill take a look
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me when I smell another transgender in the wild
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ok, edited the press release (edited)
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added a sentence or two
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 5:23 PM
Can't focus on school too tired, professor assigned the assignments due at 5pm and 6pm, haven't seen a single professor do that
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I'll take the hit on the late points
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Nap time
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 5:24 PM
thats kinda me rn
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i have a solid mechanics assignment due at midday tomorrow
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its going to take like 5 hours
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 5:25 PM
I take asynchronous online classes. I thought the point of them was to be more flexible
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 5:29 PM
i did most of highschol asynchronous and it killed me
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 5:30 PM
Due to issues I had to register late and take what I could get. Also can't do in-person classes cause my car kind of caught fire and blew up
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Asynchronous sucks but had to do it
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I failed most of my classes senior year of HS because they were Async lol
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 5:31 PM
oof that was me for freshman-junior
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luckily when you fail classes in homeschooling it doesnt mean much
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 5:32 PM
Nice
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Don't have to worry about the GPA drop
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I really didn't either cause the senior class did so bad online ( cause this was the start of the pandemic ) a lot of the bad grades were forgiven by the teachers and school
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 5:33 PM
yeah
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Oof. Spring 2020 was my senior year, dropped off the face of the earth. Idk how you lot did high school like that
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Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 5:39 PM
Same lol
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robin (they/it) 01/19/2023 5:44 PM
i mostly didnt the teachers kind just gave us not a lot of work and the work they did give us was mostly busy work. i went biking with my friends almost every day and hopped on trains and stuff loke that
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 5:44 PM
I just goofed off and did no homework until my mother was notified I wasn't doing any of the work haha
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 5:45 PM
sounds familiar
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I graduated hs in 07 šŸ‘“šŸ™ƒtiredeyes
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 5:51 PM
i wonder if you knew hayden from school
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i mostly didnt the teachers kind just gave us not a lot of work and the work they did give us was mostly busy work. i went biking with my friends almost every day and hopped on trains and stuff loke that
You weren’t #quarantining ??? 😷 šŸ’€ There’s a plague on, you know
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 5:56 PM
Did anyone else do teacher cadet in hs? It taught me how much I hated the paperwork side of education
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WhichWitch17 01/19/2023 6:15 PM
I did like two weeks of it. Then realized ā€œoh I hate kids and this much paperwork is tediousā€ so I noped out
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 6:20 PM
Haha, im fine with taking care of kids, my issue is the paperwork, and it's the reason I didn't go into education for a career
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The paperwork was defo tedious
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Very annoying
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WhichWitch17 01/19/2023 6:23 PM
No that’s totally valid
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I just can’t handle screaming. I really can’t
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And also kids are really mean for no reason sometimes- (edited)
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 6:25 PM
They certainly can be a handful. Being trans certainly doesn't help. I wasn't transitioning at the time but we had a trans man who had in our class and he was advised by the teacher not to mention anything relating to being trans
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WhichWitch17 01/19/2023 6:26 PM
Oh yeah I’m sure that’s really hard. Especially if you work with younger kids
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 6:27 PM
Depending on the parent too, you could be hunted down like a fox
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So I totes don't blame you for switching after 2 weeks
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Not fun
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Kid issues are adorable tho haha. I can't say anything about them due to a non-disclosure agreement but they were cute
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You weren’t #quarantining ??? 😷 šŸ’€ There’s a plague on, you know
robin (they/it) 01/19/2023 6:29 PM
we was masked, outside, and distanced
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Depending on the parent too, you could be hunted down like a fox
WhichWitch17 01/19/2023 6:34 PM
Yeah honestly I feel like parents are worse than the kids sometimes
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 6:35 PM
It's cause they hold actual power, worst a kid can do is maybe physical or mental harm, but a parent in that situation can ruin your life
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ColorfulKnoll
Did anyone else do teacher cadet in hs? It taught me how much I hated the paperwork side of education
Oh and yes. Now they’re basically an indentured servant to the state of South Carolina, owing four years of work to the state in exchange for their education in education
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 6:38 PM
Makes me sad, I remember that one giant protest that happened in like 2019.
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Ig it didn't do much
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My school had a ton of teachers missing cause of that protest
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Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 6:39 PM
SC for Ed just needs to become an actual union
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Hayden (he/they)
SC for Ed just needs to become an actual union
Tbhhhh Their board of directors are almost solely made up of my high school English teachers šŸ’€ covid really took the wind out of their sails
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Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 6:40 PM
Good lesson for us to learn, no amount of shouting in front of the statehouse will change things. We need to make that change inevitable
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There was another event last year and we barely got 50 people there
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 01/19/2023 7:00 PM
Yeah, I worked in education for a little bit and I can say that the school I worked at definitely skewed heavily conservative. I'm not sure how it goes throughout the state though (edited)
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A-A-Ron (they/them)
Yeah, I worked in education for a little bit and I can say that the school I worked at definitely skewed heavily conservative. I'm not sure how it goes throughout the state though (edited)
holy shit
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im sorry to interrupt
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i saw yr name pop up i was like HELLO
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 01/19/2023 7:03 PM
Lol no worries. But yeah, idk, it may have just been my experience, but I just did not feel like I was in any place where I could do any organizing.
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I saw the writing on the wall with regards to queer teachers as well and just got out while I could.
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I saw the writing on the wall with regards to queer teachers as well and just got out while I could.
ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 7:41 PM
I think that was probably a good call
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ColorfulKnoll 01/20/2023 5:19 PM
One of the great things about walking a big dog is that people are more interested in the dog than you, so you don't get stares while going down the street
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Anyone need tickets tonight? We aren't able to go
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Hayden (he/they) 01/20/2023 8:26 PM
Just paid bucko
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Hayden (he/they) 01/20/2023 8:40 PM
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ColorfulKnoll 01/20/2023 8:41 PM
Love the outfit
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Hayden (he/they) 01/20/2023 8:42 PM
I'm going to rustle some cattle after this
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yee haw? šŸ‘€
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Hayden (he/they) 01/20/2023 8:43 PM
Yeah colonizing Colorado is hard work
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Colorado?
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ColorfulKnoll 01/20/2023 8:45 PM
Colorado loves its cowboys
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this is true
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robin (they/it) 01/20/2023 8:48 PM
hay - den
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used to live around CO Springs and it felt like an obsession sometimes
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hay - den
. . . I hope you're proud of yourself, Robin
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robin (they/it) 01/20/2023 8:50 PM
i am its really funny
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/20/2023 8:50 PM
robin banned fron oat
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mod abuse??
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seb it/they 01/20/2023 8:50 PM
We all agree /j
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robin (they/it) 01/20/2023 8:50 PM
this is transphobia
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/20/2023 8:50 PM
the council has decided\
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robin (they/it)
this is transphobia
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/20/2023 8:51 PM
yes'
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yes it is
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seb it/they 01/20/2023 8:51 PM
Athena comes out as transphobic
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/20/2023 8:51 PM
so true
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used to live around CO Springs and it felt like an obsession sometimes
ColorfulKnoll 01/20/2023 8:51 PM
Oh, that's very odd. I have family in Raton, NM, you don't even see the cowboy history there even tho they're very close. Tho Raton is basically just a run down coal town now.
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yes it is
This was never Organise Against Transphobia just organise against robin
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robin (they/it) 01/20/2023 8:51 PM
yall were playing the long game
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oar
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seb it/they 01/20/2023 8:52 PM
My family is from eastern Oregon
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/20/2023 8:52 PM
we need a giant 3d sign of the OAT logo where the A slowly flips around to reveal an F
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seb it/they 01/20/2023 8:52 PM
Literally Oregon trail cowboy shit
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/20/2023 8:52 PM
Organize For Transphobia, OFT
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seb it/they 01/20/2023 8:52 PM
They have speed shooting as a sport at the high school my little sister is going to go to
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Oh, that's very odd. I have family in Raton, NM, you don't even see the cowboy history there even tho they're very close. Tho Raton is basically just a run down coal town now.
ooh yeah, the springs is on the eastern side and in that kind of conservative stretch south of Denver, there's a lot more of that "pioneer" celebration, esp with tourist-y stuff
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/20/2023 8:52 PM
there's schools here that do skeet shooting
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private, but they exist, so ive been told
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ooh yeah, the springs is on the eastern side and in that kind of conservative stretch south of Denver, there's a lot more of that "pioneer" celebration, esp with tourist-y stuff
ColorfulKnoll 01/20/2023 8:53 PM
That's very interesting to know, thank you for sharing
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Colorado?
Hayden (he/they) 01/20/2023 8:53 PM
Going for the whole "native American genocide angle"
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Going for the whole "native American genocide angle"
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hay - den
Hayden (he/they) 01/20/2023 8:54 PM
Got my ass
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Going for the whole "native American genocide angle"
ColorfulKnoll 01/20/2023 8:54 PM
If you really want to go all out add a bison skull
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/20/2023 8:55 PM
needs one of those little neck dangly things
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the cowboy lanyards
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idk what they're called
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. . . Athena
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/20/2023 8:55 PM
what
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bolo, bossbabe
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Is that what you mean?
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Hayden (he/they) 01/20/2023 8:56 PM
Lasso?
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I think it's a noose when it's a neck dangly thing
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bolo, bossbabe
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/20/2023 8:57 PM
yes
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a cowboy lanyard
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ah. naturally.
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ColorfulKnoll 01/20/2023 8:57 PM
Like the bow tie Doug dimmadome wears?
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wait I'm still confused why we're dressing like cowboys in the oat
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I don't do hats unless it's stealing max's
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/20/2023 8:59 PM
when you say it like "The OAT" it has the same vibes as "the IRA"
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/20/2023 9:00 PM
Writing "Kinky Boots 2" but i added even more homophobia
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
Writing "Kinky Boots 2" but i added even more homophobia
I - how??
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Matt Cox he/him 01/21/2023 8:43 AM
Where the hell was this for our protests??
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Matt Cox he/him
Where the hell was this for our protests??
Canon
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Matt Cox he/him 01/21/2023 9:00 AM
Canon Cannon, fire that shit at some Christianists
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....... I have a can cannon
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....... I have a can cannon
Matt Cox he/him 01/21/2023 10:47 AM
does the cancanon
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boom boom boom
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Canon Cannon, fire that shit at some Christianists
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/21/2023 10:58 AM
think i can fit a rolled up bible into a 21mm barrel?
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A confetti cannon, but it’s filled with bible verses/Jesus AU fanfics
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
think i can fit a rolled up bible into a 21mm barrel?
Matt Cox he/him 01/21/2023 11:06 AM
At least a Chick Tract
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/21/2023 11:06 AM
why are we shooting baby chickens
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Matt Cox he/him 01/21/2023 11:08 AM
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For those who are not familiar with Mr. Jack and his tracts, Jack Chick wrote and published a whole bunch of shitty religious pamphlets in comic book form. He even has one where he admits his tactic was stolen from Communist, China, who stole it from the US comic industry.
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ColorfulKnoll 01/21/2023 11:10 AM
I'm not very well versed in socialist and communist information. What's a Scab?
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Matt Cox he/him 01/21/2023 11:10 AM
A worker who breaks the picket line and works during a strike
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ColorfulKnoll 01/21/2023 11:11 AM
Oh I see, thank you both
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Don’t know why the word is scab though?
11:12
Because they peel off?
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Matt Cox he/him 01/21/2023 11:12 AM
At a meeting of Variety editors the other day, we got to talking about "scabs" and wondering how that term came to be used to describe a strikebreaker. Being wordsmiths, we couldn't …
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Ooh lowlife creep, love that.
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Matt Cox he/him 01/21/2023 11:16 AM
A lot of union terms are very old, English slang. Strike comes from the first work stoppage movements on ships. When the captain would not listen to reason, they would stop working by striking the sales so the ship couldn’t go anywhere.
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ColorfulKnoll 01/21/2023 11:17 AM
That's a very interesting historical fact
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Matt Cox he/him 01/21/2023 11:18 AM
Reason to keep us old people around
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Reason to keep us old people around
For now! šŸ‘¼
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Matt Cox he/him 01/21/2023 11:20 AM
Whippersnappers
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ColorfulKnoll 01/21/2023 11:35 AM
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Planted it a few weeks ago and it's already growing new leaves
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Matt Cox he/him 01/21/2023 12:22 PM
Not sure where this would go but just found this and can’t wait to dive in
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I’d be happy to support by buying but it’s $50+ for a kindle or pback
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Matt Cox he/him 01/21/2023 12:56 PM
Would anyone be interested in doing a book club reading of Patrick Cheng’s Radical Love? It would be available to anyone in Columbia/Richland County (and possibly Lexington and others) on hoopla, so copies aren’t a problem
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I think it would be useful to have an arsenal of Bible/Christian-centric language to approach these issues for the legislature (I’ve used them at protests too)
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ColorfulKnoll 01/21/2023 1:02 PM
Even if I couldn't attend I'd love to read it. I may buy myself a copy
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Matt Cox he/him 01/21/2023 1:03 PM
I know there are other clubs in our group(s) and wouldn’t want to overload the already overloaded. Maybe we could go through some of the essays in the collection above? RadLove is a quick read tho, and super thorough for its length and scope
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ColorfulKnoll 01/21/2023 1:07 PM
How many pages is RadLove?
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Matt Cox he/him 01/21/2023 1:07 PM
176 on hoopla
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I can get the text length at home from my physical copy
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Currently chaperoning a trampoline party
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ColorfulKnoll 01/21/2023 1:09 PM
Haha, hope you have fun with that. But yeah doesn't seem too long. Like a weekend read. I just finished reading strait is the gate a little bit ago so it's good to get a new suggestion
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Matt Cox he/him 01/21/2023 2:46 PM
From Radical Love
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I think this gets at the failure of mainstream Christianity to be Christian. At its heart it’s about breaking down boundaries between ourselves and the universe, including each other. Like a tapestry made of different color threads, but instead of taking pride in the beauty of the tapestry, they take pride in their individual color and those who share it
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seb it/they 01/21/2023 7:48 PM
thanks to everyone who came to the firearms class today and special thanks to @Hayden (he/they) @Olivia and @Kudzu for making the whole thing possible :)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/21/2023 7:49 PM
how did it go
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seb it/they 01/21/2023 7:49 PM
it went well
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Hayden (he/they) 01/21/2023 7:49 PM
Sure did, no casualties
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/21/2023 7:50 PM
not even a wittle casualty šŸ‘‰ šŸ‘ˆ
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. . . were you expecting casualties?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/21/2023 7:50 PM
the only casualties allowed are nazis
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Matt Cox he/him 01/21/2023 7:51 PM
That’s not casualty, that’s accuracy pew pewwwww
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Hayden (he/they) 01/21/2023 7:53 PM
It's a good metric for success
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We also had a pretty good range day
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I guess you could say You were at Home on the Range?
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Matt Cox he/him 01/21/2023 7:55 PM
Os-tra-cized on the raaaaange…
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Nico (she/her) 01/21/2023 7:55 PM
It was nice meeting everyone today!
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It’s the best disney movie, I will not be taking questions at this time
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No one died, every new shooter made first round hits at 10y, and others made some pretty immediate improvements! All in all, an excellent day
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Made it back home a bit ago, thanks to everyone who came out and contributed time, ammo, and resources!!
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comrade kalia (she/her) 01/22/2023 12:17 AM
i am pissing myself look at this please
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No notes, honestly madman
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It gets even better if you look at the blog
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Amazing
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Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 11:55 AM
From Radical Love
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BRITAIN ISN'T REAL
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Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 12:03 PM
They got my sign on the left lol
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Trans people are valid, Britishness is not, omg I found Jesus in the corner of a protest sign #killwhitey
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George (He/They) 01/22/2023 12:23 PM
A graphic I came up with
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From Radical Love
ColorfulKnoll 01/22/2023 12:32 PM
Bought a copy, should be coming in on the 27th
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Bought a copy, should be coming in on the 27th
@Matt Cox he/him Who is it by? Is it this?
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@Matt Cox he/him Who is it by? Is it this?
ColorfulKnoll 01/22/2023 1:36 PM
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It's this one, Amazon has some pretty cheap used copies but you can also find it on ebay
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Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 2:24 PM
If your library has hoopla, the ebook is always available. If a comrade has hoopla they may give you access to their account were you to DM them on Signal
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Not sayin just sayin
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/22/2023 2:35 PM
i am supposed to but the richland library is obsessed with deactivating my library card every 2 months
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Does the Richland county library have hoopla?
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Does the Richland county library have hoopla?
robin (they/it) 01/22/2023 2:36 PM
yeah
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Wow I’m so in the loop šŸ’€
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
i am supposed to but the richland library is obsessed with deactivating my library card every 2 months
robin (they/it) 01/22/2023 2:36 PM
transphobia
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Wow I’m so in the loop šŸ’€
robin (they/it) 01/22/2023 2:37 PM
loopla
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Lol I just use Libby
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i am supposed to but the richland library is obsessed with deactivating my library card every 2 months
Hayden (he/they) 01/22/2023 2:43 PM
Did you get an online card? I had to renew mine in person
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Did you get an online card? I had to renew mine in person
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/22/2023 2:43 PM
i have both an online one and one ive had since i was a kid, neither works
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Hayden (he/they) 01/22/2023 2:48 PM
Yeah they emailed me with my online one to get renewed, it works now
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If I'm not mistaken, it's tied to your address as you have to be a resident of Richland county
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/22/2023 2:50 PM
ive got a residents one and student one
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Click to see attachment šŸ–¼ļø
Not really a pleasing version but here
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Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 4:12 PM
-If your card is inactive for a few years, it gets shuffled out of the system. You can reactivate it as long as your info still has you in Richland -As a student you can get a student one for the year, present proof of local address etc. -If you sign up online, you have three months to come to a branch to get your card updated to a full-service card if you present proof of address (edited)
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seb it/they 01/22/2023 4:30 PM
If you're part of CofC TSA, y'all have your own role now :)
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@CofCTSA
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ColorfulKnoll 01/22/2023 4:36 PM
What's CofC TSA?
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Nico (she/her) 01/22/2023 4:36 PM
college of charleston trans student alliance
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ColorfulKnoll 01/22/2023 4:37 PM
Oh neat
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Thank you
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What's CofC TSA?
the trans student alliance and the college of charleston
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Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 6:33 PM
Thought I’d go ahead and kick this out: our next self-defense meeting is the 28th. Do we want to move that for the campaign event? If people want to go and protest or whatever.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/22/2023 6:35 PM
whats on the 28th? is that when trump is here?
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Max (they/it) 01/22/2023 6:36 PM
yeah
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/22/2023 6:36 PM
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh
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Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 6:36 PM
Yeaaaaaaah
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Do we know what time they’re in public?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/22/2023 6:36 PM
that is going to be a pain in the ass
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they booked the capital for like 7 hours
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lemme find the info
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Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 6:37 PM
Don’t these ppl have joerbs
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/22/2023 6:37 PM
Former President Donald Trump will be joined by two of his highest-profile South Carolina supporters.
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Don’t these ppl have joerbs
ColorfulKnoll 01/22/2023 6:37 PM
Being public nuisances is their job
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/22/2023 6:37 PM
3am-10pm
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Way worse
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That’s almost 20 hours
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On the bright side, they’re struggling to find SC political people to agree to attend
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Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 6:39 PM
Tell me that’s a typo goddamnit anyway
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/22/2023 6:39 PM
is it possible they put the wrong am/pm
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maybe its 3pm-10pm
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ColorfulKnoll 01/22/2023 6:39 PM
Would be a shame if something happened with all three of them there
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Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 6:39 PM
Nice rally y’got there
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
is it possible they put the wrong am/pm
Nah, I have no doubt they reserved it for the whole time bc secret service and security and to block protestors and the like
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Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 6:39 PM
Shame if something were to…happen to it
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ColorfulKnoll 01/22/2023 6:42 PM
I hope it's not a closed door meeting so media can get coverage of what goes on during it
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/22/2023 6:42 PM
its a rally innit it
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so i think they're going to be outside
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on the lawn
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I heard it’s not, or most of it isn’t
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/22/2023 6:42 PM
oh
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but 500 people?
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thats too many to fit in the state house
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I’m sure there’s some sort of outside component though, bc duh
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ColorfulKnoll 01/22/2023 6:43 PM
It's at least partially too strengthen ties with repub leaders here in SC especially with potential rivials in SC
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
thats too many to fit in the state house
It’s says they’re reserved spaces inside, outside, and around the state house
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/22/2023 6:43 PM
lawns = pointless waste of space = american dream
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Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 6:43 PM
Anybody know of anyone making a stink? Honestly if all the things were involved in I’m not sure this makes the top of my list. As such if there’s enough people going I’m cool with tagging along and repping OAT
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/22/2023 6:43 PM
gotta have a good old american bbq
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It’s a campaign rollout, so probably some public speaking stuff then a bunch of closed door ā€œplz just say you support meā€ begging
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lawns = pointless waste of space = american dream
Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 6:44 PM
Pointless Waste of Space? Has he chosen a running mate then?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/22/2023 6:44 PM
idk if i want to hang out around a trump rally for hours
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Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 6:44 PM
ā€œGive me money this is not just for money but give me it bigly.ā€
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/22/2023 6:44 PM
what good would we do, we arent going to convert any of his zealots
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Sounds like hell, if there’s nothing larger organised to oppose it idk if it’s worth it to be there
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Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 6:44 PM
Seconded.
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Aight well if that’s the group consensus I’ll see y’all at noon on the 28th!
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Pointless Waste of Space? Has he chosen a running mate then?
ColorfulKnoll 01/22/2023 6:45 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot Pence and him are fighting.
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Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 6:47 PM
Anyway if they’re going from dawn till dusk we can do our training then go in and out as we please. Eager to know if it’s as big a cluster as it sounds
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Hayden (he/they) 01/22/2023 6:47 PM
If it's anything like last time, SS will have to close roads between the state house and airport, which could cause issues
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ColorfulKnoll 01/22/2023 6:47 PM
Oh gosh the traffic
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Hayden (he/they) 01/22/2023 6:48 PM
Last time is was Benedict, so it caused delays all over town
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If it's anything like last time, SS will have to close roads between the state house and airport, which could cause issues
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/22/2023 6:48 PM
i read SS as like the nazis and given the event i was like yeah ok makes sense
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Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 6:48 PM
ā€œYou mean Nazis?ā€ ā€œNo, but yes.ā€
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ColorfulKnoll 01/22/2023 6:50 PM
I live fairly close too the columbia airport so I'm not looking forward to it
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Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 6:51 PM
I lived by the fairgrounds for years i understand traffic blues
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Hayden (he/they) 01/22/2023 6:52 PM
Tbf last time he was still president
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ColorfulKnoll 01/22/2023 6:52 PM
Oh gosh, the fairgrounds. I couldn't even imagine
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Logan (he/him) 01/22/2023 6:53 PM
I live p close to where he came last time it was absolute hell
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I live p close to where he came last time it was absolute hell
ColorfulKnoll 01/22/2023 6:53 PM
Off topic, but your pfp is very cute I love turtles and tortoises
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True, it might not be as bad for a former president But a former president also running for president . . . idek what that would look like
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Off topic, but your pfp is very cute I love turtles and tortoises
Logan (he/him) 01/22/2023 6:53 PM
thank you :D
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ColorfulKnoll 01/22/2023 6:54 PM
Lexington county is still fairly pro-trump too, I see signs and flags all over. So it's probably gonna be a pain
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True, it might not be as bad for a former president But a former president also running for president . . . idek what that would look like
Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 6:54 PM
Also former President beefing with other candidates
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Wonder how many of those are reluctant but wanting to trigger the libs
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And DeSatan signs and banners haven’t come out yet
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Logan (he/him) 01/22/2023 6:55 PM
I was forced to go to the rally when he came it was not fun lol
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Joshua (He/Him) 01/22/2023 6:55 PM
I just can't.
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I was forced to go to the rally when he came it was not fun lol
Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 6:55 PM
TY 4 ur sevrice
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Wonder how many of those are reluctant but wanting to trigger the libs
ColorfulKnoll 01/22/2023 6:57 PM
I hope a good bit, but it also wouldn't surprise me if they were all unironic supporters
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Where my bf lives it's even worse, even businesses publicly supporting trump. It's wild
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Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 6:58 PM
Ugh
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ColorfulKnoll 01/22/2023 6:58 PM
Yeah, it's upstate tho, so shouldn't be too surpising
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Logan (he/him) 01/22/2023 6:59 PM
L state
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Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 6:59 PM
Lestat*
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And DeSatan signs and banners haven’t come out yet
Little Florida Man isn’t as good at the game. I’m very fond of the framework where the presidency can be analysed by means of comparison to professional wrestling. It’s all spectacle, where policy is a means to accruing more power. Trump is horrifying because he is very good at spectacle. He surrounds himself with a circus of a support team, he can whip a crowd to a fever, and make virtually anyone a heel to his strong man antics. His 2020 loss dulled some of that sheen, but idk I think he has more power than most people are considering atm. Politicians are tired of him, but he has a big base and they can be scary people. I’m not super into national politics, but challengers are going to have a beast of a time taking him down, in all likelihood.
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Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 7:05 PM
That is better analysis than I’ve seen on cable like ever
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Lol I just finished up a political science major, so a ton of research and years of discussions on current events are all still fresh and shiny in my mind (edited)
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Also cable news analysis sucks šŸ’€
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Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 7:08 PM
Backhanded compliment, I know.
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ColorfulKnoll 01/22/2023 7:09 PM
Cable news itself is just spectacle, whatever gets views
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Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 7:09 PM
ā€œCongratulations on completing step one before making a million billion dollarsā€
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Lol I just finished up a political science major, so a ton of research and years of discussions on current events are all still fresh and shiny in my mind (edited)
ColorfulKnoll 01/22/2023 7:10 PM
Also, thanks for reminding me to do remainder of this week's work
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And DeSatan signs and banners haven’t come out yet
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/22/2023 7:14 PM
honestly dont think he's going to run in 2024
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he can (unfortunately) outlive trump he doesnt have to compete with him
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may desantis have a short miserable life pls
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Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 7:16 PM
Seriously any deities, alive dead or in between, interested in answering that prayer contact my lawyer
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/22/2023 7:17 PM
dont worry im on it
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*in my capacity as a deity this is a joke
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
*in my capacity as a deity this is a joke
Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 7:18 PM
Too late shut up and take my supplications!!!
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/22/2023 7:18 PM
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
he can (unfortunately) outlive trump he doesnt have to compete with him
ColorfulKnoll 01/22/2023 7:27 PM
Hopefully he loses political steam tho
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Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 7:28 PM
Any series of events which end in t and d being deflated like the windbags they are is a positive
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Matt Cox he/him
Any series of events which end in t and d being deflated like the windbags they are is a positive
ColorfulKnoll 01/22/2023 7:38 PM
I think im dumb cause I've been thinking about this for awhile and still don't get it (edited)
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Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 7:39 PM
Sorry i miss the mark regularly. Losing their ā€œwind,ā€ their support
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ColorfulKnoll 01/22/2023 7:39 PM
No no, the issue is the T and D haha (edited)
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I'm just dumb maybe
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Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 7:39 PM
Sorry, Trump and DeSantis
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ColorfulKnoll 01/22/2023 7:40 PM
Ooooh, okay thank you sorry haha
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seb it/they 01/22/2023 7:40 PM
it's okay to misunderstand/not get things
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Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 7:40 PM
Old man goes too obscure is not a commentary on yourself, none of that
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seb it/they 01/22/2023 7:41 PM
that in no way ever makes you "dumb" or "stupid"
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Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 7:42 PM
These are words of control like so many others
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ColorfulKnoll 01/22/2023 7:42 PM
Thanks for the reassurance
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seb it/they 01/22/2023 7:42 PM
yeah if you want to learn more about that type of language i've got a good blog post
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Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 7:42 PM
I’d read that
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seb it/they 01/22/2023 7:43 PM
i also can have a much longer discussion about ableist language bc disability activism/politics is very central to my personal politics and sphere of knowledge
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give me a sec i'm digging for the post
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/22/2023 7:43 PM
if its the one im thinking of its pinned in csoc disability
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FUCK
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itzs gone
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noooooooo
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seb it/they 01/22/2023 7:44 PM
Thoughts on disability justice, neurodiversity, intersectional activism from Lydia Brown, queer, autistic, east asian activist, writer, public speaker
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lol i delete my messages regularly
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but yes this is the same blogpost
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you should repost it in there and pin it so it survives my next discord deep clean
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you should repost it in there and pin it so it survives my next discord deep clean
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/22/2023 7:44 PM
i did pin it
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i think it was my message so i probably told undiscord to delte pins by accident
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seb it/they 01/22/2023 7:45 PM
oops lol
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ColorfulKnoll 01/22/2023 7:47 PM
Thank you for sharing, I'll make sure to give it a read when I'm not suddenly dizzy
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Matt Cox he/him 01/22/2023 7:47 PM
Everything ok?
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seb it/they 01/22/2023 7:48 PM
mhm and if you ever want to discuss ableist language/disability justice stuff feel free to give me a ping or dm me
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also yeah you good?
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ColorfulKnoll 01/22/2023 7:48 PM
I think so haha, just sudden dizziness
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No worries
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/22/2023 7:48 PM
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seb it/they 01/23/2023 7:35 AM
Just finished unmasking autism by Devon price, strongly recommend to anyone who wants to understand autism better or thinks they might be a masked autistic
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solvent (they/she) 01/23/2023 9:46 AM
ive been wanting to read that book, how long/difficult of a read is it?
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seb it/they 01/23/2023 9:48 AM
It was a bit longer, but all of the concepts were written in fairly plain language and it was well organized and broken down into manageable chunks
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It took me 2 weeks to read it
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comrade kalia (she/her) 01/23/2023 10:07 AM
my gender is Non-Binary (United States of America)
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Matt Cox he/him 01/23/2023 10:12 AM
USA, UK: These are the two genders
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USA, UK: These are the two genders
ColorfulKnoll 01/23/2023 10:14 AM
If these are the two genders I really want to tear down the gender binary now
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Matt Cox he/him 01/23/2023 10:14 AM
Ikr, like it wasn't bad enough
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Then what's his face comes out with his own binary theory: cops and crackheads
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Face is like he's trying to hold a wet fart
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"no whammies, no whammies..."
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ColorfulKnoll 01/23/2023 10:16 AM
Cops and crackheads sounds like a bad steam game you get for 0.99
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Matt Cox he/him 01/23/2023 10:17 AM
Plants vs Zombies: Cawl A Crayckhyead version
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ColorfulKnoll 01/23/2023 10:17 AM
I'd play it
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Matt Cox he/him 01/23/2023 10:18 AM
"Every time I contact tech support, I am advised to 'call a crayckhyead.' 2/10, would not recommend" (edited)
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"Every time I contact tech support, I am advised to 'call a crayckhyead.' 2/10, would not recommend" (edited)
ColorfulKnoll 01/23/2023 10:20 AM
Have youve ever tried calling a crayckhyead?
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Matt Cox he/him 01/23/2023 10:21 AM
I keep getting put on a phone tree that's so confusing it could have been designed by a cop
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seb it/they
Just finished unmasking autism by Devon price, strongly recommend to anyone who wants to understand autism better or thinks they might be a masked autistic
May i ask where did you read it?
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seb it/they 01/23/2023 1:09 PM
I pirated an epub off of libgen
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Face is like he's trying to hold a wet fart
George (He/They) 01/23/2023 4:31 PM
He and Henry McMaster are both similar in the fact they both talk like Foghorn Leghorn
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George (He/They)
He and Henry McMaster are both similar in the fact they both talk like Foghorn Leghorn
Matt Cox he/him 01/23/2023 4:33 PM
A-heya, ah say, cawl a crayckhyead! User, that is!
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Matt Cox he/him 01/23/2023 5:07 PM
Hey all, in case you're interested, I've done gone and looked for some of the books referenced in Radical Love. Got a dropbox link right heyah for you.
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The cover for Sex Lives of Saints and Queer Theology have me šŸ’€
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"I am so done with this baby"
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Like they're so pale his eyes are šŸ˜–
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ColorfulKnoll 01/24/2023 12:40 PM
Copy of Radical love came in, I'll start reading it when I have time
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Hayden (he/they) 01/25/2023 8:59 AM
Du Bois asks us, ā€˜Is it so easy to give up the dream of democracy?’
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Giving this one the rounds today
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Matt Cox he/him 01/25/2023 9:33 AM
I just found that a college friend has a SubStack and wrote a thing about the stuff
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Written testimony for today's House K-12 Subcommittee Meeting on H. 3728
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/25/2023 9:34 AM
They always accept written testimony
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We have fingers and pens and keyboards and such
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Matt Cox he/him
I just found that a college friend has a SubStack and wrote a thing about the stuff
Oh my god šŸ’€ he was my English and AP Seminar teacher What a small world
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Matt Cox he/him 01/25/2023 9:41 AM
Oh man, very small!!!
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Also, that was very well worded. It’s nice to see teachers getting involved against these bills
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Matt Cox he/him 01/25/2023 9:42 AM
Steve is a good dude. We've had disagreements, but I've always had major respect for him.
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Good writer and musician too
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Yeah, he was one of the teachers that had to fight with our principal to get a GSA in our school and had us reading some killer books that weren’t just the ā€œclassicsā€. Moderately iconic, hard grader though smh
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Matt Cox he/him 01/25/2023 9:44 AM
Totally tracks, lol
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ColorfulKnoll 01/25/2023 10:55 AM
Just got out of my doctor's appointment. Highly recommend trusdale medical for anyone looking for a new doctor. Nurse, receptionist, and doctor were really nice
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/25/2023 5:32 PM
getting fingerprinted for my name change tomorrow
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with a bit of luck maybe a legal gender change too
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Hayden (he/they) 01/25/2023 5:33 PM
Commit some crimes tonight
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They will never find you
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Now is the time
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Get printed and then burn them off
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
getting fingerprinted for my name change tomorrow
Where are you going to get your fingerprints done?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/25/2023 5:36 PM
saint andrews road
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Cass (she/her) 01/25/2023 5:37 PM
no
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My grandmother used to print people at the Richland County sheriff’s department for name and legal gender changes
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Lol I was about to say
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My grandmother used to print people at the Richland County sheriff’s department for name and legal gender changes
Cass (she/her) 01/25/2023 5:38 PM
Where I went
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Ye
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They process the background checks along side DSS (edited)
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I got my fingerprints done by my CWP instructors
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They were charging 5$ to do it but I distracted them with conversation and got out of there with the prints paying nothing
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Cass (she/her) 01/25/2023 5:40 PM
It’s like $10 in cash at Richland county
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They insulted my gun so all bet were off
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mine we're $10 per copy ;-;
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It’s not theft if you want it
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never insult my Beretta
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Cass (she/her)
It’s like $10 in cash at Richland county
It’s robbery tbh They just keep it in a big pouch of the fingerprinting money rattling around someone’s office and it’s stuffed with cash until they empty it every few weeks after fingerprinting days. It’s wild bc their internal security and camera placements suck. Getting in the back is the only trouble, but someone could so easily just get their hands on all kinds of stuff in there Not that you should obviously because it’s wrong and illegal to trespass
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Just idle speculation
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I just ordered an AMD-65 handguard for the AK. But I'm also gonna get a kit to convert it from an underfolder to a fixed, AR style stock
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/25/2023 6:00 PM
ah yes
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firearms
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i know this
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Oh my god actually For like two years they did The fingerprinters just keep the cash until it’s time to send it to a bank or whatever they do with it, and my grandmother used to keep it in this little piggy bank back from when Wachovia was still a place that existed
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though I may wind up not using the AMD-65 handguard
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So if anyone wants to burn the fuck out of their hand and has an AK, I'll let you know
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/25/2023 6:01 PM
if someone wants to buy me an AK i would not object šŸ‘‰ šŸ‘ˆ
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I can buy you an A or K, but you have to pick
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though I may wind up not using the AMD-65 handguard
Hayden (he/they) 01/25/2023 6:03 PM
Doesn't it have a different length than a standard ak one
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Also why
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I maintain my AK both for sentimental reasons since it's been with me through a couple community defense actions, and to hand off to a buddy if they don't have a rifle and should have one
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Hayden (he/they)
Doesn't it have a different length than a standard ak one
It should be fine but if it's not, I'm a blacksmith and welder. I can make it do as I please.
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Hayden (he/they) 01/25/2023 6:04 PM
Make sure to get the dong with it
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The dong?
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Hayden (he/they) 01/25/2023 6:05 PM
yes
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If I can get the shitty chinese underfolder stock off, and get that fixed stock adapter, what I'll probably wind up doing is cloning the appearance of the MW2 AK47 (edited)
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Hayden (he/they) 01/25/2023 6:06 PM
Hungarian AMD-65 AK Stamped Steel Handguard and plastic Foregrip, in Good condition. Sold Individually (as pictured).These issued parts show some marring on grips and wear on the handguard finish.The set includes the steel handguard, plastic foregrip, screw and
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With the dong affixed
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Though the AK is an obsolete platform, having it is better than not having a rifle at all in a pinch
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Hayden (he/they) 01/25/2023 6:07 PM
Liberal lies
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AK is going nowhere
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Having used both, the AR is better.
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I'm ignoring all the exotic rifles like the G36 and F2K because they are irrelevant and I don't like bullpups
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/25/2023 6:56 PM
have i mentioned how much i hate blue state liberals
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every single time one of these bills drops, i put info on it in all queer spaces im in, and get told to "stop panicking" or "it will never pass"
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these are trans libs too
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Hayden (he/they) 01/25/2023 6:58 PM
Yeah if you check out that account I dropped a while back they are following in real time how some of these bills pass
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
these are trans libs too
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/25/2023 7:03 PM
we have exceeded my expectations, a trans person just told me that trans medical care shouldnt be available until 18
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i am dead
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
we have exceeded my expectations, a trans person just told me that trans medical care shouldnt be available until 18
ColorfulKnoll 01/25/2023 7:11 PM
As someone who cried for days at a time when In elementary and middle school about dysphoria I say this a bull take.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
we have exceeded my expectations, a trans person just told me that trans medical care shouldnt be available until 18
Matt Cox he/him 01/25/2023 7:13 PM
The internalized is strong with that one
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/25/2023 7:13 PM
california lib
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WhichWitch17 01/25/2023 7:13 PM
It just makes me sad honestly. Maybe that person didn’t need/want care until they were 18+ but other people definitely do.
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ColorfulKnoll
As someone who cried for days at a time when In elementary and middle school about dysphoria I say this a bull take.
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/25/2023 7:14 PM
i didnt even have the words or the expression for mine, i didnt know why i felt awful. i hate people.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
california lib
ColorfulKnoll 01/25/2023 7:15 PM
Explains alot honestly, they haven't experienced an actual risk too hrt being restricted
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
i didnt even have the words or the expression for mine, i didnt know why i felt awful. i hate people.
ColorfulKnoll 01/25/2023 7:15 PM
People are terrible I'm sorry you had to experience that šŸ«‚
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
i didnt even have the words or the expression for mine, i didnt know why i felt awful. i hate people.
Matt Cox he/him 01/25/2023 7:15 PM
I hate what power has done to people.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/25/2023 7:15 PM
shoutout to random cis guy in this server im in for being a better trans advocate than the trans person
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true comrade
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WhichWitch17 01/25/2023 7:16 PM
I remember having to talk with my brother about it because he didn’t know how to put his feelings into words. It’s heartbreaking that people can be so apathetic. Especially other people in the trans community (edited)
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shoutout to random cis guy in this server im in for being a better trans advocate than the trans person
WhichWitch17 01/25/2023 7:16 PM
We love true comrades out here.
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I remember having to talk with my brother about it because he didn’t know how to put his feelings into words. It’s heartbreaking that people can be so apathetic. Especially other people in the trans community (edited)
ColorfulKnoll 01/25/2023 7:17 PM
They won't be so apathetic when their rights are under threat
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WhichWitch17 01/25/2023 7:18 PM
Maybe. But it shouldn’t take something like that for people to care
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They won't be so apathetic when their rights are under threat
Matt Cox he/him 01/25/2023 7:18 PM
And I did not speak up, because I was not XYZ (edited)
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Eventually there will be no one to speak up for us if we don't speak up now
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Maybe. But it shouldn’t take something like that for people to care
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/25/2023 7:18 PM
i feel awful for it, but i cant help but want to switch places with them all for a while
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Maybe. But it shouldn’t take something like that for people to care
ColorfulKnoll 01/25/2023 7:18 PM
Sadly people only usually take action when it involves them directly
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/25/2023 7:18 PM
let them feel fear on where they will get their lifechanging medication tomorrow
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
let them feel fear on where they will get their lifechanging medication tomorrow
Matt Cox he/him 01/25/2023 7:19 PM
It's an understandable feeling. Best to be honest with it like you are now.
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It's the inner demons you fight that tear you apart. The ones you learn to understand become angels (edited)
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Had to change that to allow space to fight the external demons šŸ‘Š
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/25/2023 7:20 PM
this person just called mastectomies cosmetic surgery (cw transphobia towards transmascs) (edited)
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im even more dead]
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WhichWitch17 01/25/2023 7:21 PM
That is horrible.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
let them feel fear on where they will get their lifechanging medication tomorrow
ColorfulKnoll 01/25/2023 7:21 PM
The goverment already made it a hell of a challenge to find medication for me since the only place near me that accepted my insurance was connected to MUSC and since they got shot down so did the medical park. (edited)
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this person just called mastectomies cosmetic surgery (cw transphobia towards transmascs) (edited)
ColorfulKnoll 01/25/2023 7:22 PM
Oh gosh, I've seen people just straight up say transmasc weren't valid and they were just pretending
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People can be cruel
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/25/2023 7:23 PM
i will bite the shit out of anyone who hurts my transmasc friends and comrades
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ColorfulKnoll 01/25/2023 7:23 PM
I support this
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Matt Cox he/him 01/25/2023 7:23 PM
why
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do we not have
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a bite emoji
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nom nom nom
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WhichWitch17 01/25/2023 7:23 PM
Fuck we need to have one
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Matt Cox he/him 01/25/2023 7:24 PM
Should be standard. Call Discord, tell them to figger it out
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:trans_bite:
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Matt Cox he/him
Should be standard. Call Discord, tell them to figger it out
ColorfulKnoll 01/25/2023 7:25 PM
Theyre too busy with ignoring valid complaints on their platform
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We need that
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Matt Cox he/him 01/25/2023 7:25 PM
like a set of choppers in rainbow
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blue/pink/white...bow
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:trans_bite:
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/25/2023 7:25 PM
https://twitter.com/ozarkhowIer/status/1613199695152664576 i do have this really awesome image (cw vicious dog)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
https://twitter.com/ozarkhowIer/status/1613199695152664576 i do have this really awesome image (cw vicious dog)
ColorfulKnoll 01/25/2023 7:26 PM
Puppies
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
https://twitter.com/ozarkhowIer/status/1613199695152664576 i do have this really awesome image (cw vicious dog)
Matt Cox he/him 01/25/2023 7:26 PM
And I've found m'next tattoo....
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
https://twitter.com/ozarkhowIer/status/1613199695152664576 i do have this really awesome image (cw vicious dog)
rt'd from the cola dsa acc (:
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/25/2023 7:29 PM
sorry to just
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bring my rant in here
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
bring my rant in here
ColorfulKnoll 01/25/2023 7:29 PM
I say all the more power to you
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
bring my rant in here
Matt Cox he/him 01/25/2023 7:30 PM
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seb it/they 01/25/2023 7:34 PM
I need a rage emoji
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/25/2023 7:35 PM
yes
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
every single time one of these bills drops, i put info on it in all queer spaces im in, and get told to "stop panicking" or "it will never pass"
comrade kalia (she/her) 01/25/2023 7:54 PM
https://twitter.com/erininthemorn/status/1617976661714296833?s=46&t=ru9XW__OoclPu4qTH8p62g don’t wanna hear anyone say ā€œthese will never passā€ in my presence again
The first anti-trans drag ban has just passed the Arkansas Senate. 29-6. Terrifying.
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seb it/they 01/25/2023 7:55 PM
God i need a hug
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Or maybe a drink
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Someone should make a cocktail that also gives you a hug at the same time
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comrade kalia (she/her) 01/25/2023 7:56 PM
isn’t that what absinthe is
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/25/2023 7:57 PM
im taking my sleeping meds
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seb it/they
God i need a hug
will briskly walk to your apartment if needed
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/25/2023 7:57 PM
im going to not exist for a little while
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seb it/they 01/25/2023 7:57 PM
Eh I've got people here who could give me a hug
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How about we like do something fun after self defense this weekend
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Like idk I'm just so burnt out rn and tired and upset about all thos
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I just want to vibe
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comrade kalia (she/her) 01/25/2023 8:00 PM
wish i was in canada again so i could just go buy a couple joints for CA$3
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(not sure if that needed a spoiler but better safe than sorry)
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seb it/they 01/25/2023 8:01 PM
Yeah i would just out of courtesy
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Ik some people here have delt with substance issues (myself included) so it's a good thing to be careful about
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comrade kalia (she/her) 01/25/2023 8:01 PM
e
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seb it/they 01/25/2023 8:02 PM
Oh happy two months on T to myself :3
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congratulations!!
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/25/2023 8:03 PM
wowowowowowowowo
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seb it/they 01/25/2023 8:03 PM
I'm getting a little moustache
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/25/2023 8:04 PM
hell yeah
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comrade kalia (she/her) 01/25/2023 8:05 PM
that’s p gay of u
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/25/2023 8:06 PM
funky lil gay mustache indeed
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robin (they/it) 01/25/2023 8:06 PM
guys people chat too much and then i dont read all the 100+ messages. are all the important things in the announcements ?
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seb it/they 01/25/2023 8:07 PM
Mostly
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O would read #pressure-your-representative
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A bit more
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robin (they/it) 01/25/2023 8:08 PM
thank you
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seb it/they 01/25/2023 8:08 PM
Mhm and if you have any questions i read everything and can answer them or help figure out :)
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robin (they/it) 01/25/2023 8:09 PM
also are generally the hearings that people are allowed to speak at generally on weekdays because i have classes for the majority of the day. there are a few days i get out at 2 but most at 5. i want to speak where i can, but the times seem unfortunate
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seb it/they 01/25/2023 8:10 PM
Yes, but they also take written testimony
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robin (they/it) 01/25/2023 8:11 PM
alright thank you
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seb it/they 01/25/2023 8:11 PM
Mhm I'll make sure to put details about that in the next announcement on this sort of thing
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Also just asking but would you feel like it would have been beneficial to have an everyone ping for that?
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I was on the fence and wanted input from folx who were a bit less active in the server
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robin (they/it) 01/25/2023 8:14 PM
i try to be active when i can its just hard with everything all the time. it probably couldnt hurt and it seems like probably a lot of people are interested or would potentially be interested in speaking or writing. i also know a lot of people are full-time students or have jobs so they would not be able to speak randomly in the middle of the day.
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seb it/they 01/25/2023 8:15 PM
Oh yeah no that wasn't intended to be a dig or anything at all
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https://twitter.com/erininthemorn/status/1617976661714296833?s=46&t=ru9XW__OoclPu4qTH8p62g don’t wanna hear anyone say ā€œthese will never passā€ in my presence again
ColorfulKnoll 01/25/2023 8:15 PM
@comrade kalia (she/her) just read the bill, it essentially says you can drag but you're not allowed to have fun in any bussiness establishments cause it'll be considered "adult" (edited)
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robin (they/it) 01/25/2023 8:15 PM
i also know pickles is giving us the best info they have but it feels like even if i wanted to write something the day before might not be enough
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seb it/they
Oh yeah no that wasn't intended to be a dig or anything at all
robin (they/it) 01/25/2023 8:16 PM
understandable have a nice day
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seb it/they 01/25/2023 8:16 PM
Yeah it's very a intentional tactic to reduce engagement
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That's why non legislative steps are also so important
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@comrade kalia (she/her) just read the bill, it essentially says you can drag but you're not allowed to have fun in any bussiness establishments cause it'll be considered "adult" (edited)
comrade kalia (she/her) 01/25/2023 8:16 PM
it also has far reaching implications tho so it’s not exactly comforting
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robin (they/it) 01/25/2023 8:17 PM
i dont know if it would be possible or a good idea to write testimonies for the remaining bills so they are able to go out as soon as we learn about the meetings
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seb it/they 01/25/2023 8:17 PM
Yes that's probably a good idea
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it also has far reaching implications tho so it’s not exactly comforting
ColorfulKnoll 01/25/2023 8:18 PM
Right, it says performers tho, so hopefully if a court rules in the bill's favor at the very least it won't count towards just regular trans people just trying to express their idenity as a way of life
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That's up to court interpretation tho
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seb it/they 01/25/2023 8:18 PM
I don't trust the courts
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ColorfulKnoll 01/25/2023 8:19 PM
Neither do, I especially since they got packed by republican aligned judges within the last couple of years
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But the hope is since this is part of bussiness codes it won't apply to private citizens not running or participating in a bussiness' activities (edited)
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robin (they/it) 01/25/2023 8:20 PM
@seb it/they i missed the testimony practice from pickles so i dont know what was discussed there but maybe if people wanted some could be on vc and do a little writing and hang out session or something?
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not today but eventually
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not today but eventually
comrade kalia (she/her) 01/25/2023 8:21 PM
no let’s do it right now immediately šŸ˜…
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that’s a real good idea tho in all seriousness
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seb it/they 01/25/2023 8:23 PM
Yeah it really is
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ColorfulKnoll 01/25/2023 8:24 PM
Rereading through it, it luckily has a stipulation saying that certain actions have to take place in addition to drag. This still takes away freedoms from trans people and nonconforming cis people tho, but luckily it's not banning crossdressing all together. What can come out of it tho is potentially more bills piggybacking off of it (edited)
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robin (they/it) 01/25/2023 8:24 PM
we could do it during the afternoon saturday or sunday
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seb it/they 01/25/2023 8:25 PM
i think sunday is probably better since we already have self defense stuff on saturday
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robin (they/it) 01/25/2023 8:26 PM
if we didnt want to make it an official meeting or something we could just at everyone and say if your writing during the weekend get on vc and hope some one else is there
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seb it/they 01/25/2023 8:26 PM
if you want to write a little blurb for the event and figure out what time works best i can create an event
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or we could do that, that has just resulted in no one showing up in the past
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robin (they/it) 01/25/2023 8:28 PM
"need some help writing testimony to counter upcoming bills? want to chat with some queers? why not kill 2 birds with one stone get on vc sunday at 1 to wrelax and write." and the title of the event would be wrelax and write
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it is funny because it is both wr words
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seb it/they 01/25/2023 8:28 PM
cool i'll make it now and ping ever one :)
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robin (they/it) 01/25/2023 8:29 PM
thats called taking initiative
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seb it/they 01/25/2023 8:30 PM
event created
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/25/2023 8:33 PM
is there a reason for 1pm
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i want to make it but mutual aid ends at 2
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doesnt matter ig i shouldnt go to both anyway'
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ill get too tired
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seb it/they 01/25/2023 8:36 PM
we can move it late/i write slow so i will be hanging out for a very long time
20:36
we can also do more than one of these types of events
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robin (they/it) 01/25/2023 8:41 PM
i didnt know there was another event woops
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seb it/they 01/25/2023 8:41 PM
that other event is for a different org athena is part of
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it's for CPP
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robin (they/it) 01/25/2023 8:42 PM
we can move the time i just picked one i thought people might be able to make
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seb it/they 01/25/2023 8:42 PM
idk it's up to you if you want to move it
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robin (they/it) 01/25/2023 8:43 PM
well i can make one or later seems like it is up to athena wanting to go to both or not
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seb it/they 01/25/2023 8:44 PM
she said it wouldn't be a good idea bc she would get too tired, so i think it's probably okay
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robin (they/it) 01/25/2023 8:45 PM
alright well it seems like we can keep one unless other people have beef
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IRIS has actually been talking about using our numbers to have a letter writing event during a meeting in the next month or so. About what bills will probably be what’s still relevant at the time, but it’s coming up if you wanted to make sure you have a chance to write with others.
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seb it/they 01/25/2023 8:47 PM
when that happens do y'all want to advertise in here?
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If you’ll have it, absolutely. It’s an open campus, the more the merrier.
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seb it/they 01/25/2023 8:48 PM
yes just ping me or send me a dm when y'all are ready to advertise
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same for any other member orgs :) if you have an event yall want to advertise to OAT just let me know
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i'll include it in my everyone pings and also the events
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Hayden (he/they) 01/25/2023 8:49 PM
Keep in mind for CPP, a comrade from DSA is cooking, so it should be a light week on my end
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robin (they/it) 01/25/2023 8:52 PM
that sure is some words you wrote
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my neurodivergent brain is unable to extract any meaning from that
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seb it/they 01/25/2023 8:53 PM
columbia people's programs (the org that is doing distro) is having their food cooked by a democratic socialists of america member, so hayden won't be the one cooking and will have more free time
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does that help lol?
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robin (they/it) 01/25/2023 8:54 PM
yes thank you
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Hayden (he/they) 01/25/2023 10:02 PM
I was thinking mainly in terms of athena's attendance at prep
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Matt Cox he/him 01/26/2023 8:28 AM
If anyone wants to get coffee or lunch after training, I would totally be down. Bring lappies and/or notebooks and collab.
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I try to pack as much as I can in the times I already commit to, so I can preserve fam time
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Hayden (he/they) 01/26/2023 10:19 AM
They're just outright admitting it on the record to the NYT that the focus on trans youth were just a pretext to eventually ban all gender affirming care. They never cared about children. We told you so. https://t.co/wMRUba5eMI
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News to nobody
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/26/2023 10:21 AM
The false binary shit just gets me. Intersex people exist. Trans people exist
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I think the goal is for us to not
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Ideologically these people think we don’t
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I think the goal is for us to not
pickles- they/them (mel) 01/26/2023 10:22 AM
We are everywhere. Good luck with that
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Hayden (he/they) 01/26/2023 10:22 AM
Surprising they would say the quiet part out loud on the record
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ColorfulKnoll 01/26/2023 10:31 AM
I dont understand what trans people have to do with family principles. Why is a conservative family principles lobbiest group going after adults. It seems a bit off mark of their stated goal
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Hayden (he/they) 01/26/2023 10:31 AM
Just jingling the keys of culture war to keep ripping off poor people
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I’m gonna try to explain the ideology here, I don’t believe this but I was taught this as a child. These people believe the purpose of sex and marriage is only to raise children. They think that children should be raised in married, two parent homes (the nuclear family) and so any subversion of that of ANY KIND is bad. That’s why they’re against contraception, it’s why they’re against gay marriage and against gay people adopting and it’s why they’re against premarital sex. In their minds, we DO subvert their family values simply by existing. It’s a core part of their ideology
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It’s like
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Fundamental to their perspective and their worldview
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Hayden (he/they)
Just jingling the keys of culture war to keep ripping off poor people
It’s a lot easier to keep people from stopping you when they’re too busy fighting each other
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Our very existence challenges the way they see reality and that makes them scared
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ColorfulKnoll 01/26/2023 10:35 AM
I'm glad they're scared but I also hate how much power they have
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Our very existence challenges the way they see reality and that makes them scared
ColorfulKnoll 01/26/2023 10:37 AM
Also thank you for answering my question, I appreciate it.
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comrade kalia (she/her) 01/26/2023 10:42 AM
i grew up in that orbit (but not in a cult) and yeah that’s the gist of it
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i do think a fair amount of it is also about control over other people
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10:43
that was the main thing for my parents and what you described was just a vehicle for that
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cw abuse it’s funny bc i was more religious than they were so when they kicked me out of their house they tried to say they couldn’t understand because i was so religious and i talked scriptural circles around them until my dad was like ā€œdon’t preach at me sonā€
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ColorfulKnoll 01/26/2023 10:46 AM
Fought fire with fire
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Lol
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ColorfulKnoll 01/26/2023 11:28 AM
Good satirical bill
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Hayden (he/they) 01/26/2023 11:28 AM
So far we have fallen from "reals over feels" conservativism
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Hayden (he/they)
So far we have fallen from "reals over feels" conservativism
ColorfulKnoll 01/26/2023 11:50 AM
Has it ever been close? (edited)
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Hayden (he/they) 01/26/2023 11:51 AM
It's really sad how just a few years ago they were railing against safe spaces before enshrining them into law
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ColorfulKnoll 01/26/2023 11:52 AM
Safe spaces are okay when it's for them
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Hayden (he/they) 01/26/2023 12:24 PM
I don't see how the verbage in the bill won't bite them in the ass. Like what if a parent doesn't want their kid learning about Robert e Lee or Andrew Jackson?
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Hayden (he/they)
I don't see how the verbage in the bill won't bite them in the ass. Like what if a parent doesn't want their kid learning about Robert e Lee or Andrew Jackson?
ColorfulKnoll 01/26/2023 12:25 PM
Theyre probably banking on the conservative justices and school boards
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WhichWitch17 01/26/2023 12:26 PM
the more we can hide children from Ronald Reagan the better, i say we try it
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Matt Cox he/him 01/26/2023 12:26 PM
This is why I've taken so hard to Christian language, particularly idols. What they have done is reduce the infinite to the finite. "Human" has a rigid pattern it must follow, or be destroyed. I came up with the metaphor of the tapestry in this server. The totality of the human experience, God, whatever you want to call it, is this massively varied, near-infinite expression of every possibility. These folks see that, and get overwhelmed and frightened, and they start to identify only with the parts of the tapestry that closely reflects them. As blue threads, they seek other blue, or they'll stretch to blue-ish, but anything that doesn't fit in with their idea of what is close to themselves, and therefore valid, has to be altered or ripped out. That's idolatry, taking a finite portion of possibility and forcing everything else to conform to that. That's why corporate culture is destructive, there is no sense of caring unto the seventh generation, just short term profits and someone else can clean it up, none of their business once the money is made. Drain the blood and leave the body, eventually no one is left to bleed. The problem with capitalism is eventually you run out of other people's blood
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the more we can hide children from Ronald Reagan the better, i say we try it
ColorfulKnoll 01/26/2023 12:26 PM
Let them know how much an idiot his economic policies were. Man used the war in Grenada as way too boost the economy to hide his failure of trickle down economics
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WhichWitch17 01/26/2023 12:27 PM
very valid, mine was more of a sarcastic joke lol, im all about people learning how terrible he was
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Hayden (he/they)
I don't see how the verbage in the bill won't bite them in the ass. Like what if a parent doesn't want their kid learning about Robert e Lee or Andrew Jackson?
Matt Cox he/him 01/26/2023 12:27 PM
I tried to put in my speech that I applauded their efforts to remove teaching about capitalism since it's an ideology and any teacher who supports it in class would be taken to the gulag
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This is why I've taken so hard to Christian language, particularly idols. What they have done is reduce the infinite to the finite. "Human" has a rigid pattern it must follow, or be destroyed. I came up with the metaphor of the tapestry in this server. The totality of the human experience, God, whatever you want to call it, is this massively varied, near-infinite expression of every possibility. These folks see that, and get overwhelmed and frightened, and they start to identify only with the parts of the tapestry that closely reflects them. As blue threads, they seek other blue, or they'll stretch to blue-ish, but anything that doesn't fit in with their idea of what is close to themselves, and therefore valid, has to be altered or ripped out. That's idolatry, taking a finite portion of possibility and forcing everything else to conform to that. That's why corporate culture is destructive, there is no sense of caring unto the seventh generation, just short term profits and someone else can clean it up, none of their business once the money is made. Drain the blood and leave the body, eventually no one is left to bleed. The problem with capitalism is eventually you run out of other people's blood
WhichWitch17 01/26/2023 12:28 PM
also this was super well worded, i love this
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so accurate
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Matt Cox he/him 01/26/2023 12:28 PM
Yeah, I don't agree with suppressing all the shitty things, because eventually they will be presented and without prior exposure, they won't be able to argue against it.
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Things should be shown critically, but people see "critical thinking" as "much talk till someone agrees with me"
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WhichWitch17 01/26/2023 12:30 PM
absolutely, like i said my little thing was just a joke
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but it really feels like the definition of "critical thinking' and "debate" have been warped
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Matt Cox he/him 01/26/2023 12:30 PM
Sorry, not confronting, just adding a couple o' cents šŸ™‚
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WhichWitch17 01/26/2023 12:30 PM
nah youre good!
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i assumed you werent, i just wanted to make sure i was being clear on that is all
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Matt Cox he/him 01/26/2023 12:31 PM
The whole world is upside down. Power forces the world to spin on its axis, not the world's
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ColorfulKnoll 01/26/2023 12:32 PM
I feel like the education system has also failed with teaching the word theory. A theory doesn't mean it hasn't been provened. The same argument against CRT that a theory is just a theory has also been used against evolution and its such a terrible talking point but people still follow it (edited)
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Matt Cox he/him 01/26/2023 12:34 PM
I hadn't heard the "just a theory" about CRT, I mostly hear "destroy the white race" but I'm not surprised
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WhichWitch17 01/26/2023 12:34 PM
you mean teaching kids about racism wont cause the distruction of all white people? (edited)
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you mean teaching kids about racism wont cause the distruction of all white people? (edited)
Matt Cox he/him 01/26/2023 12:35 PM
sadly no
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WhichWitch17 01/26/2023 12:35 PM
i dont know about that- that sounds like some propaganda to me
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Matt Cox he/him 01/26/2023 12:35 PM
I just got done talking to my mother for a few hours, which always reminds me why we don't talk that long often. I don't want to say it's worse having a liberal parent than a conservative one, it isn't, but seeing their ideology as a mind-prison is very disheartening.
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WhichWitch17 01/26/2023 12:36 PM
oh my moms super conservative, shes stopped talking about politics to me because she saw how it was affecting our relationship
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Matt Cox he/him 01/26/2023 12:36 PM
Everything she said was based on the assumption "this is the best of all possible worlds"
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Mom always says we aren't going to talk about it any more, but she's big into news and Dem politics, and I'm...well, you know me, and it has to come up eventually
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WhichWitch17 01/26/2023 12:37 PM
were objectively better off than we were 100 years ago sure ill give you that, but saying there isnt any more work to be done is just ignorance tbh
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Matt Cox he/him 01/26/2023 12:37 PM
I'm glad you guys have settled into a rhythm at least.
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Has anyone read Kahlil Gibran's The Prophet?
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Matt Cox he/him
I'm glad you guys have settled into a rhythm at least.
WhichWitch17 01/26/2023 12:38 PM
oh nah it still happens, she just doesnt bring it up as often
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Matt Cox he/him 01/26/2023 12:38 PM
If you are struggling with parental relationships (in either direction) the section On Children is a great framing device
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WhichWitch17 01/26/2023 12:38 PM
but sometimes ill laugh at some of Ben Shapiros opinions when mom comes across them on TikTok
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she uh- does not like that
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because she takes him seriously, somehow
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Matt Cox he/him 01/26/2023 12:39 PM
And a woman who held a babe against her bosom said, Speak to us of Children.
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because she takes him seriously, somehow
Matt Cox he/him 01/26/2023 12:39 PM
I would love to take your mom out to dinner and discuss how the ever-loving fudge she can look at that ghoul and do anything but cringe/scream/wet herself
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That's my fight/flight response to his voice
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WhichWitch17 01/26/2023 12:40 PM
its mine too, i just laugh so i dont do those things in front of her
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Matt Cox he/him 01/26/2023 12:40 PM
He's like a chihuahua with fur wraps for eyebrows
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WhichWitch17 01/26/2023 12:41 PM
thats the most apt description of him ive ever read
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Matt Cox he/him 01/26/2023 12:42 PM
The part in The Prophet where he said children's souls "dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you can never visit, not even in your dreams" is a great lesson to all of us aging folk that we need to step aside and let children be themselves
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Guide, sure. We can house their bodies, as he says, but not their souls. We can give them our love, but not our thoughts.
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WhichWitch17 01/26/2023 12:42 PM
thats really beautiful
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Matt Cox he/him 01/26/2023 12:43 PM
I quote it often, and I've been trying to do so against these bills and shit. Let them dwell in the house of tomorrow, we are not invited. We had our time, and now it is time to plant the trees of tomorrow
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Mixing my references, but there you go
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ColorfulKnoll 01/27/2023 1:49 PM
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Btw Trump rally all day at the state house, they got the permit from 3am go 10pm
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Hayden (he/they) 01/28/2023 4:27 PM
Is it a rally? I heard private meeting
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He's inside but all around, and lots of ppl outside
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Couple counterprotestors sort of, I was gonna walk up and say hey
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ColorfulKnoll 01/28/2023 4:40 PM
Time to burn down the state house, for legal reasons this is a joke
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seb it/they 01/29/2023 1:47 PM
is anyone coming to relax and write lol
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i'm just studying rn and can hop back on whenever, it was just draining my phone battery to sit in hangouts
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Matt Cox he/him 01/29/2023 1:48 PM
Oh snap completely forgot
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seb it/they 01/29/2023 1:48 PM
i might put out a ping
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Matt Cox he/him 01/29/2023 1:48 PM
We had an intense night and we’re having a relaxing one. I am running out to grab lunch and I’ll see when I get back
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seb it/they 01/29/2023 1:49 PM
if you can't join it's nbd
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take care of yourself
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/29/2023 1:52 PM
i cannot
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i Can join after I finish my Spanish
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seb it/they 01/29/2023 1:53 PM
i'm just studying for other stuff rn ;-;
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so many things to do
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academic weapon
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seb it/they 01/29/2023 9:22 PM
Strongly recommend Belly Of The Beast: The Politics of Antifatness As Antiblackness by Da'Shaun L. Harrison
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It was very good
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i Can join after I finish my Spanish
apologies for not joining
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seb it/they 01/29/2023 9:29 PM
No problem
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seb it/they 01/30/2023 8:31 PM
how are yall doing?
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ronnie (he/him) 01/30/2023 8:46 PM
Mid but better than Bad
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Gonna try and finish new video tonight/tomorrow
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I think I’m gonna start looking for exit plans
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Nico (she/her) 02/01/2023 11:26 AM
Godspeed comrade
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If anyone needs info on passport stuff I'm already in the process of doing that
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Usc also has resources
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Internal displacement is also a short term option
11:29
Minnesota or california
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Or Colorado
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WhichWitch17 02/01/2023 11:30 AM
ive always thought about the idea of moving to Cali
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Can someone post Erin in the morn’s list of states with trans protections
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WhichWitch17 02/01/2023 11:30 AM
might need to now
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Oregon isn't awful if you go to the right parts
11:31
But DO NOT go to eastern oregon
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This map helps you determine the likelihood your state will pass anti-trans legislation in the next 2 years. If you are moving or looking to move, or make other decisions, please use this map!
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Yep here’s the January version
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But DO NOT go to eastern oregon
Although eastern Oregon is significantly cheaper, it's politically similar to Idaho (white supremacist and scary on the same level as here) and there have been a bunch of murders of trans folks
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But DO NOT go to eastern oregon
same with western colorado or most of the south tbh
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Hayden (he/they) 02/01/2023 11:38 AM
My uncle lives up in Illinois too, might could figure something out
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/01/2023 11:55 AM
I just want to not fear for my life for 5 minutes
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ColorfulKnoll 02/01/2023 12:20 PM
I hate this man more and more with each word he says. I hope he gets thrown into prison
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WhichWitch17 02/01/2023 12:23 PM
seriously, I dont understand how this man has such a big following ans so much power, its so disturbing to me
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ngl, I think thats the scariest part of this, that theres so many people who hang on to and believe his every word
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i might head to colorado when i graduate
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WhichWitch17 02/01/2023 12:24 PM
wouldnt blame you
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ive considered Cali
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ngl, I think thats the scariest part of this, that theres so many people who hang on to and believe his every word
ColorfulKnoll 02/01/2023 12:24 PM
Reactionaries too change. People don't like change
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definitely using that map when i decided where to look for jobs
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Reactionaries too change. People don't like change
WhichWitch17 02/01/2023 12:25 PM
true, a lot of people hate change and see it as a threat
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its a wild rabbit hole to go down
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definitely using that map when i decided where to look for jobs
ColorfulKnoll 02/01/2023 12:26 PM
A big issue with alot of those states tho is that it's also a high cost of living so a lot of people poorer and less educated cant easily settle in those areas. So try to keep income in mind when choosing a place
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yeah exactly thats the issue
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ColorfulKnoll 02/01/2023 12:27 PM
Michigan isn't too bad on the cost of living tho there's no legal protections atm
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Hayden (he/they) 02/01/2023 12:28 PM
Illinois at least has a high minimum wage, and smaller cities have a lower cost of living
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it's important to keep in mind that there will always be people who cannot leave and so it's also important to fight for eachother where we are (but getting out is also very valid)
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Hayden (he/they) 02/01/2023 12:28 PM
My grandma recently left Decatur which wasnt bad
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And legal weed
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i might even go to a low / moderate risk state as well
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just somewhere thats not here
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if i can find a job
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Nico (she/her) 02/01/2023 12:29 PM
My partner and I are moving to nj in June, I could see how they feel about hosting trans refugees once we get established up there
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seb it/they
it's important to keep in mind that there will always be people who cannot leave and so it's also important to fight for eachother where we are (but getting out is also very valid)
WhichWitch17 02/01/2023 12:29 PM
right, thats why ive never been of the mindset that "hey everyone can just move its fine" because its not
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if not ill fight here til i can’t anymore
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WhichWitch17 02/01/2023 12:30 PM
so will I
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but as someone who’s jewish and knows a lot about this kind of rhetoric- im fucking scared
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Hayden (he/they) 02/01/2023 12:30 PM
My attitude is: at risk people who can leave should, not-as-at risk people should stay
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I'm not going anywhere
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i think it's important that we work more on mutual aid stuff
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WhichWitch17 02/01/2023 12:31 PM
im sorry Char, im scared too so I cant even imagine
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and try to get the community more prepared (this includes cis people who will stay behind)
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Hayden (he/they) 02/01/2023 12:31 PM
It's good to set concrete goals on what that mutual aid stuff is and timetables
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WhichWitch17 02/01/2023 12:32 PM
agreed, mutual aid is gonna be one of if not the most important things to focus on, both in and out of state
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maybe we should have another meeting to check in? idk i'm feeling very overwhelmed/that there's too much to do
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yes i agree
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I’m at a very high risk, I’m under 21 and I use tricare (government healthcare)
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does someone want to schedule something?
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@mutual_aid
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WhichWitch17 02/01/2023 12:38 PM
we could try and find a time that works for most if not all of the people who need it
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yeah i'm not entirely sure how to effectively do that
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maybe a when2meet? idk
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stuff should definately be online
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yeah i'm not entirely sure how to effectively do that
WhichWitch17 02/01/2023 12:40 PM
neither am I, but w2m is good for it, I just dont want someone who really needs this to miss it
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I’m at a very high risk, I’m under 21 and I use tricare (government healthcare)
Okay I’m also under 21 and use the Healthy Connections medicaid program Healthcare policy is way out of my wheelhouse, I’d love if anyone with any knowledge could explain how these sorts of state legislative efforts could affect my healthcare from a national program that’s administered at the state level
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Every time I try and understand insurance my brain starts bleeding
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neither am I, but w2m is good for it, I just dont want someone who really needs this to miss it
could you please make one?
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Trump wants to cut federal funding to any program that does gender affirming stuff
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And so that would include healthcare not covering HRT
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Like it already doesn’t in Florida
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I’m more asking in the immediate, if our state passes something on not using funds for gender affirming stuff, how would that affect my healthcare Bc I’m not sure the federal-state interaction on that stuff
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You wouldn’t be able to get any gender affirming medication on insurance
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Well that’s not very sexy and fun ;-;
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And your insurance wouldn’t cover HRT appointments
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Also, trump wants to prosecute doctors that prescribe HRT
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There are very direct parallels between this and the holocaust.
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Insurance would also likely not cover things like gender affirming surgeries
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ColorfulKnoll 02/01/2023 12:44 PM
Spiro and estradiol would be like 260 dollars each month plus needles. That's terrifying. And I'd be one of the first targets since I'm directly under goverment health insurance
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Also, trump wants to prosecute doctors that prescribe HRT
Well isn’t that super cool Fun fact about South Carolina, we’re currently facing a shortage of healthcare workers. By 2030 it’s expected by MUSC that there’s only going to be enough people to hire about 2/3 of the number of people our state needs to even maintain the bad levels we have. But sure, throw good doctors in jail or fine them into oblivion or discredit them. That’s fine. (edited)
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ColorfulKnoll 02/01/2023 12:47 PM
Trump seems like he's taking notes on Putin's play book, Putin has already made it basically impossible to survive as a trans person there. I wouldn't be surprised if trump says he's going after Mexico cause of the large American population there
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Well isn’t that super cool Fun fact about South Carolina, we’re currently facing a shortage of healthcare workers. By 2030 it’s expected by MUSC that there’s only going to be enough people to hire about 2/3 of the number of people our state needs to even maintain the bad levels we have. But sure, throw good doctors in jail or fine them into oblivion or discredit them. That’s fine. (edited)
ColorfulKnoll 02/01/2023 12:48 PM
Isn't there a national shortage too?
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We've had entire departments that haven't been adequately staffed for over a year
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thanks covid :)
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nothing like burning through medical staff like they're dry timber in a fucking firezone
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How hard is it to get estrogen in Mexico?
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Unfortunately the nurse shortage was already happening before 2020, but covid just REALLY made it worse
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How hard is it to get estrogen in Mexico?
ColorfulKnoll 02/01/2023 12:52 PM
Have a friend in Mexico, they said it was fairly easy. Just stay sway from northern Mexican states cause they're more aligned with the US south
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How hard is it to get estrogen in Mexico?
robin (they/it) 02/01/2023 12:52 PM
i know most medication is wayyyy cheaper in mexico but i dont know how available it is
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Isn't there a national shortage too?
I’m pretty sure. I just know these numbers for the state bc I was reporting on the house ways and means healthcare subcommittee the other day and it came up. On the bright side, heard today in a criminal justice closed meeting that across the state, there is currently a 5k+ shortage of LEOs, about 1/10 new police quit in the first year out of the academy, and revenues are down on tickets because they can’t enforce petty nonsense as well without thousands of cops on the streets. But these people are also requesting over $600k to turn a school in I think Lexington into a school shooter training facility, so And ofc SLED wants more money for pay raises
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I’m pretty sure. I just know these numbers for the state bc I was reporting on the house ways and means healthcare subcommittee the other day and it came up. On the bright side, heard today in a criminal justice closed meeting that across the state, there is currently a 5k+ shortage of LEOs, about 1/10 new police quit in the first year out of the academy, and revenues are down on tickets because they can’t enforce petty nonsense as well without thousands of cops on the streets. But these people are also requesting over $600k to turn a school in I think Lexington into a school shooter training facility, so And ofc SLED wants more money for pay raises
ColorfulKnoll 02/01/2023 12:54 PM
600k, Jesus
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Oh, and they’re bringing in Homeland Security and asking for millions in counterterrorism operations stuff ;-; Or, rather, just north of a million in recurring funds (re-granted every time a set amount of time passes, usually annually)
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600k, Jesus
Yeah, it’s wild what happens in state government you never heard about
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ColorfulKnoll 02/01/2023 12:55 PM
Why does SC need counter terrorism. Worst we have is the far right they seem to love
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I’m glad there is a 5k shortage of LEOs, there should be a larger shortage of LEOs šŸ™‚
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Why does SC need counter terrorism. Worst we have is the far right they seem to love
People like us Also they just want money and power
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Do a public service, tell a cop to quit their job
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People like us Also they just want money and power
ColorfulKnoll 02/01/2023 12:57 PM
Can't wait to see the dumb raids on "terrorist"
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I’m glad there is a 5k shortage of LEOs, there should be a larger shortage of LEOs šŸ™‚
Dw, there will be. They’re obviously getting the pay raises, but that’s SLED. Localities and county departments are refusing to pay their cops more for the most part and it’s just the state cops scrambling to try and cover the growing patches. It was really nice to hear.
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The chief of sled is literally going to city and county departments and trying to demand they raise their cop salaries 🤣
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Spiro and estradiol would be like 260 dollars each month plus needles. That's terrifying. And I'd be one of the first targets since I'm directly under goverment health insurance
have you looked into goodrx? I get my 40mg/mL estradiol valerate suspension without insurance for $90 with it. lasts me 6 months (edited)
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have you looked into goodrx? I get my 40mg/mL estradiol valerate suspension without insurance for $90 with it. lasts me 6 months (edited)
ColorfulKnoll 02/01/2023 1:01 PM
With insurance it's like 12 bucks for each. So I'm not worried atm. My issue is after funding isn't available since I use goverment health insurance since my dad is retired military
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Hey y'all I know this is scary but we need to avoid panicking. Trump does not currently hold office and a lot of his preferred candidates failed recently. Don't let his words hold more power than they do. What the fascists want is for us to panic and in doing so be less effective
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Trump doesn’t currently have power
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But his rhetoric was policy positions
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He made genocidal campaign promises that other Republican politicians are going to have to match or respond to
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It wasn’t just him saying shit it was him advocating policy
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That state legislators are going to copy and that other Republican candidates are going to copy
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ColorfulKnoll 02/01/2023 1:03 PM
Nikki Haley has already matched the same type of rhetoric
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These are mainstream ideas within the Republican Party
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Matt Cox he/him 02/01/2023 1:04 PM
The introduction of extreme policy is almost if not always to make less extreme policy more palatable. Trump says "border wall" Hillary says "maybe a fence." Trump says "eliminate transfolk" DeSantis says "ban teaching gender in schools."
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i have always found the line of argument that "big pharma" is pushing this completely ridiculous....like all hrt meds (aside from gnrh agonists) are generic medications that are available for relative pennies compared to other medications that big pharma push
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Matt Cox he/him 02/01/2023 1:04 PM
While this isn't a statement of policy in itself given that he's just a toad without a swamp, it has a dramatic effect on the populace (edited)
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yeah this looks pretty bad tbh. definitely take care of yourself and don't go all doomer but it warrents concern and demand action I think (edited)
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Yes I understand that Cyprus, but he is also just trying to flex. Trans rights are more popular than they ever have been so he's trying to match that. Campaign promises are famously unreliable
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There is open debate of the ā€œtrans questionā€
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There has been my entire life
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It’s never been this explicit in recent memory (edited)
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Yes it was. I grew up hearing people talk about killing us I promise it's not new
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In Florida, HRT is no longer covered under state health insurance
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ColorfulKnoll 02/01/2023 1:06 PM
Another big issue is the laws are now actually being passed
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Books are being taken out of classrooms
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Matt Cox he/him
The introduction of extreme policy is almost if not always to make less extreme policy more palatable. Trump says "border wall" Hillary says "maybe a fence." Trump says "eliminate transfolk" DeSantis says "ban teaching gender in schools."
i expect desantis to match this rhetoric
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Matt Cox he/him 02/01/2023 1:07 PM
Would not be surprised. But even that is with the hope of if it's defeated, something close to as horrible will pass
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Teachers are being threatened with felonies for having books in classrooms that talk about queer stuff
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What trump is advocating for is already happening in parts of the US
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ColorfulKnoll 02/01/2023 1:07 PM
I hope to god Desantis stays in flordia cause he has the actual power to take Trump's political votes which is currently separating and weakening the republic party
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I'm not claiming it's not bad or getting worse, I'm saying maintaining calm is the best way to ensure our actions are deliberate and effective. Trying to convince me to freak out helps how exactly?
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I’m not trying to convince you to freak out
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I’d just prefer that we take this as seriously as it is and not minimize it
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What trump is advocating for is already happening in parts of the US
Yes so rather than giving a decrepit old man more power than he has let's focus on what we can actionably do to prevent that here, fuck what trump says, how can we fight the current bills here? What more can we do?
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personally I feel like there is a distinction between making people's freak out or being doomer and being serious about the dangers of things. one invited apathy and despair, the other urges organization and action
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I’m not trying to convince you to freak out
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wrong reply oops
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I’d just prefer that we take this as seriously as it is and not minimize it
I'm telling you about the death threats I've heard please don't claim I'm minimizing anything (edited)
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Yes so rather than giving a decrepit old man more power than he has let's focus on what we can actionably do to prevent that here, fuck what trump says, how can we fight the current bills here? What more can we do?
seb it/they 02/01/2023 1:09 PM
i think we need to focus on contacting legilatures from the commitiees like hayden was working on
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and also work more on mutual aid in a sustainable way
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Yes so rather than giving a decrepit old man more power than he has let's focus on what we can actionably do to prevent that here, fuck what trump says, how can we fight the current bills here? What more can we do?
ColorfulKnoll 02/01/2023 1:10 PM
I suggest we don't become public nuisances for legal reasons
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 1:10 PM
in addition to making sure our response is more widespread across the state and not so columbia focused
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in addition to making sure our response is more widespread across the state and not so columbia focused
ColorfulKnoll 02/01/2023 1:11 PM
Midlands Technical College has already expressed LGBT support in the past and is connected to USC . Might be something to look into
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 1:11 PM
i think we have some people from midlands in here
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ColorfulKnoll 02/01/2023 1:11 PM
I'm one of them
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 1:11 PM
the main issue is most of the events have been columbia focused
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mostly because most of the people who are organizing events just happen to be in cola
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Matt Cox he/him 02/01/2023 1:12 PM
Not to mention the state house
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Midlands Technical College has already expressed LGBT support in the past and is connected to USC . Might be something to look into
seb it/they 02/01/2023 1:12 PM
also it would be really cool if you could invite more people if you know them šŸ’œ
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also it would be really cool if you could invite more people if you know them šŸ’œ
ColorfulKnoll 02/01/2023 1:13 PM
I'll try my best to see if I could connect with anyone in my classes. I have issues gaining friends tho so I'm not very well connected
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 1:13 PM
yeah no pressure at all ā¤ļø
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Not to mention the state house
ColorfulKnoll 02/01/2023 1:14 PM
Yeah, the state house is a big thing. But even for downtime events like get togethers columbia and Charleston are the two main hubs for entertainment. South Carolina is kind of barren with activities to do
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I think you’re partially correct @Olivia , I think there’s a way to share information that’s more responsible than how I’ve been doing it. I also think that these threats are very real and credible and I’m not sure what we can do to stop them other than supplementing our (as yet minimally impactful) legislative action with direct action and helping people get out of state/out of the country.
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 1:16 PM
i think there's a bunch of stuff that i personally have identified as small manageable stuff that needs to be done to build to a larger response
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i just haven't had the time to do it or the energy to really communicate well
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I think we have not focused enough on the legislation we created all this to fight against tbh, what phone banking can we do? Should we set up days to do it so that people don't feel so isolated and scared when they call a bad guy? Do we have scripts written?
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Will (He/Him) 02/01/2023 1:17 PM
Is there another source for the nuclear family trump video? I want to send it to people but I’d want a more official source than a twitter video
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 1:18 PM
1. phone banking resources in sc united, trying to get indivual orgs to schedule their own events for this
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seb it/they
i think there's a bunch of stuff that i personally have identified as small manageable stuff that needs to be done to build to a larger response
Post and pin a to do list so everybody can work through it?
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 1:18 PM
i've posted a few
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and they're rotting
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i can keep doing so though, or make a new unified one that won't get burried in the channels
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if that would be useful
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Is there another source for the nuclear family trump video? I want to send it to people but I’d want a more official source than a twitter video
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Will (He/Him) 02/01/2023 1:19 PM
Thank you!
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ColorfulKnoll 02/01/2023 1:19 PM
You're welcome
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Logan (he/him) 02/01/2023 1:19 PM
Warning don't look at the comments of that video
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 1:19 PM
i will be making a aunified todo list
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i think more focus on direct action would serve us well. only speaking for myself but the legislative action can be pretty disheartening to engage with, whereas direct action is cathartic and energizing
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Hayden (he/they) 02/01/2023 1:20 PM
To quote Grant again, worry less about what bobby Lee is going to do to you and worry more about what you are going to do to him
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These fuckheads are going to be around whether it keeps us up at night or not, let's meet about mutual aid stuff asap and work on a plan
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i think more focus on direct action would serve us well. only speaking for myself but the legislative action can be pretty disheartening to engage with, whereas direct action is cathartic and energizing
Ok then let's organize protests, just anything besides writing the state off as a loss
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too many folx i care about live here to write it off
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Logan (he/him) 02/01/2023 1:22 PM
same
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/01/2023 1:23 PM
Statements with a black square were made during meetings, those without were points brought in beforehand. Our to-do list for post-meeting is at the bottom of this page. Statements for specific bills direct delivery to reps? Statements for socials/website on each of the bills Bill for start of...
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i think we should put it somewhere more accessible and update it
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i will be making a aunified todo list
A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/01/2023 1:23 PM
Yes please, sorry I only check in here every so often so I think I miss those (I'm also pretty busy but I'll offer time when I do have it)
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 1:25 PM
i'm working on a unified one, can we just use that??
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i don't want to have conflciting ones
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i'm getting really overwhlemed rn
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/01/2023 1:25 PM
sure
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At least what I've thought we were intending with direct action wasn't protests as much as it was directly building support networks so we can help people who would be most impacted by these bills if they pass and to help in general with living in an increasingly hostile world regardless of whether that happens. There's lots of angles to tackle that problem from and every bit helps at any point in time.
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por que no los dos
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ColorfulKnoll 02/01/2023 1:30 PM
Have we've done any research on the dirty side of Politics like how much we can donate too campaigns as a lobbiest group
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I do not like the idea of my community having to rely on DIY medicine because we weren't willing to fight for our right to real healthcare (edited)
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Have we've done any research on the dirty side of Politics like how much we can donate too campaigns as a lobbiest group
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/01/2023 1:31 PM
where are we going to get money
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i dont have any
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and i think trying to match the capitalists dollar for dollar isnt a good use of it anyway
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The right is funded by institutions
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/01/2023 1:31 PM
i dont want to donate a thousand to a campaign when we could get someone a passport and get them out
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By churches and businesses and billionaires
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Hayden (he/they) 02/01/2023 1:33 PM
These two processes should flow like water, work on diy as a backup but don't give up on traditional care as it's more accessible to most people
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 1:37 PM
hayden is there any way you could edit/update the todo
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i'm not entirely sure where things are at on the legislation side bc i'm struggling to process atm
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Access Google Docs with a personal Google account or Google Workspace account (for business use).
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here's the broad list i've made
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there is definately more that is not on there i would appreciate other people's input and help
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some of the tasks are also way too large and need to be broken down into more small tasks
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hayden is there any way you could edit/update the todo
Hayden (he/they) 02/01/2023 1:39 PM
Sure
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Lynnie (she/her) 02/01/2023 1:44 PM
If anyone has questions about passports, I can help as I went through the process recently. This is a path to update your gender marker on your SCDL as well.
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I'm also working on a seminar in the Upstate for faith community to have a safe space to ask questions about the queer community. Hopefully this contributes in the long run to turning the tide on some of the discourse from the religious right because I'd sure as fuck like to see a Baptist pastor stand up for us right now
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 1:47 PM
lynnie could you please look at my legilature todo list section
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i think you could add stuff to it better than i can rn
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lynnie could you please look at my legilature todo list section
Lynnie (she/her) 02/01/2023 1:47 PM
Sure I'll try
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 1:47 PM
thanks
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I'm also working on a seminar in the Upstate for faith community to have a safe space to ask questions about the queer community. Hopefully this contributes in the long run to turning the tide on some of the discourse from the religious right because I'd sure as fuck like to see a Baptist pastor stand up for us right now
Matt Cox he/him 02/01/2023 1:48 PM
Can I help with this? I think it would dovetail with a lot of what I am reading and such. As a cissie, Idk if this is the place for me, but I've been heaping faith language in my skull
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 1:48 PM
i've got some church contacts in cola i need to reach out to, but if you successfully do that upstate there's a chance we could recreate that event here in cola
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/01/2023 1:49 PM
@Lynnie (she/her) if you're open to it, I would be down to help with this however I can
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ColorfulKnoll
Have we've done any research on the dirty side of Politics like how much we can donate too campaigns as a lobbiest group
I wouldn't try to beat our opposition at their own game. Like, this is just going to have to be accepted as a fundamentally asymmetric fight on at least some level, where we have to use different tools to achieve our goals. Looking at groups that try that approach like HRC, where last I heard they don't really offer any public facing way for people to "get involved" beyond letting people throw money at them... that approach just hasn't done much for us that hasn't shown that it will readily evaporate with a strong enough push from the other direction. That'll always just be a fight between billionaires who want to uphold existing social hierarchies for their benefit versus billionaires who think we can be exploited for profit. When it comes down to it being exploited for profit is fantastic compared to the alternative and it is the clear choice in times of crisis and few alternatives. But there's limits to that which fall short of liberation, and selling too much of our soul to that side kind of weakens us in the long run, giving us shit like the corporate whitewashed version of Pride.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/01/2023 1:50 PM
im going to go ahead and make the regional roles. im feeling a little overwhelmed and powerless and its just something i can do
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seb it/they
i've got some church contacts in cola i need to reach out to, but if you successfully do that upstate there's a chance we could recreate that event here in cola
Lynnie (she/her) 02/01/2023 1:52 PM
Yes you can because one of the orgs I am partnering with us based in Cola
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Be aware though I am targeting spring. But we will try to do it as fast as possible. But I want it to be right
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Can I help with this? I think it would dovetail with a lot of what I am reading and such. As a cissie, Idk if this is the place for me, but I've been heaping faith language in my skull
Lynnie (she/her) 02/01/2023 1:53 PM
I'm a PK and went to seminary myself lol... Ofc you can help! Once I get some logistics laid out next week I will report back.
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 1:54 PM
okay, i can dm you more about my personal contacts later (edited)
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i'm a double Preacher grand kid lol
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Lynnie (she/her) 02/01/2023 1:54 PM
My wife is a PK as well.... My family is a whole damn problem for this Legislature
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/01/2023 1:56 PM
my brain will not stop reading PK as pluralkit
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Matt Cox he/him 02/01/2023 1:57 PM
I'm wondering how all of you grew up as Penalty Kicks
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Soccer youth is hard to unbrain
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/01/2023 1:57 PM
I don't have a lot of skills, but church is one thing I understand šŸ˜‚
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Lynnie (she/her) 02/01/2023 1:58 PM
Customer: "You're a pastor's daughter, married to a pastor's daughter? Almost everyone I meet from the US is a pastor's kid. Is like, 80% of the US pastors?" Me: .... *Thinks about her own ordination certificate*.... "Yeah that's about right."
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Matt Cox he/him 02/01/2023 1:59 PM
I'm not a pastor, but I play one on the internet
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/01/2023 2:00 PM
i think my mom got herself internet ordained as a joke
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Lynnie (she/her) 02/01/2023 2:01 PM
I did so I could gay marry people
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Matt Cox he/him 02/01/2023 2:02 PM
Reminds me of Chris Hedes's father and the speech that got him excommunicated from the Presbys: Marriage is a sacrament, it is not a reward for being heterosexual, and any church that does not honor the sacrament does not deserve to call itself Christian.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/01/2023 2:04 PM
lol and my parents still like the presbyterians
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(its the denomination i was raised in mostly)
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 2:04 PM
some presbyterians are based!
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(shout out to my grandpa)
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/01/2023 2:05 PM
Mr. Rogers (edited)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/01/2023 3:03 PM
time to try and salvage the burning husk of my academic career while trying to hold my brain together yay
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Hayden (he/they) 02/01/2023 3:49 PM
We have some good news out of Arkansas. All references to drag have been removed from SB43 in a passed amendment. This is no longer a drag ban but is now an "adult nudity" ban in public, which is something nobody has ever advocated for. This would save Pride.
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ColorfulKnoll 02/01/2023 4:00 PM
They got backlash and had too do something to make themselves look decent so they didn't lose their career (edited)
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WhichWitch17 02/01/2023 4:05 PM
Ok but like why specifically ā€œadult nudityā€
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Isn’t that already not allowed for so many reasons? (edited)
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So dumb
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Hayden (he/they) 02/01/2023 4:15 PM
Yeah most places have ordinances against it
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ColorfulKnoll 02/01/2023 4:16 PM
I'm guessing it's just to try and save someone's political career
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Camryn Aisling 02/01/2023 4:18 PM
What would count as semi-nude?
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ColorfulKnoll 02/01/2023 4:19 PM
Topless probably
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Tho I hope it'd account for both men and women equally but you know that isn't happening
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 6:38 PM
Here is the Big Todo list for all tasks that need to get done for OAT at the current moment, feel free to edit, add, or change tasks as needed :) https://docs.google.com/document/d/17MS0ZuhoBYZLY0Bp0J56aA6AyLQ3DtmEH2bJdtdbRZU/edit
Access Google Docs with a personal Google account or Google Workspace account (for business use).
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ronnie (he/him) 02/01/2023 6:39 PM
Thank you this helps
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Matt Cox he/him 02/01/2023 6:40 PM
It really does, thank you Seb! (edited)
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 6:44 PM
yeah np
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i'm going to log off of OAT stuff for the night, need to do homework ;-;
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check-in, how are folx doing tonight?
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 7:55 PM
Not doing homework even though I should be
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/01/2023 7:56 PM
i do not have more homework in me today
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comrade kalia (she/her) 02/01/2023 7:56 PM
playing fo4 and getting over covid
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trying to pretend like the world doesn’t hate me
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Hayden (he/they) 02/01/2023 7:57 PM
Ready to go comet hunting
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comrade kalia (she/her)
trying to pretend like the world doesn’t hate me
feel that
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/01/2023 7:57 PM
i am so ready for my 4 exams next week
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(i am not)
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Also I'm preparing myself for general beauregard lee's prediction
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Hayden (he/they)
Also I'm preparing myself for general beauregard lee's prediction
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Hayden (he/they) 02/01/2023 7:58 PM
General Beauregard Lee is a groundhog in the US state of Georgia widely considered to be the Groundhog Day weather prognosticator for the Southern United States.General Beauregard Lee's predecessor was known as General Robert E. Lee, named after the American Confederate General Robert E. Lee of the same name, and began prognosticating in 1981. G...
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We are in his groundhog jurisdiction
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Look at his little house
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lmaoo
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Hayden (he/they) 02/01/2023 7:59 PM
Its called "weathering heights"
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/01/2023 8:00 PM
when the groundhog has better housing than most americans
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i bet he doesnt pay rent
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Hayden (he/they) 02/01/2023 8:00 PM
Oh no
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He's named after two confederate generals, neither of which are from georgia
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Balzac Billy (not to be confused with the adult film star of the same name) is the "Prairie Prognosticator", a man-sized groundhog mascot who prognosticates weather on Groundhog Day. He lives in Balzac, Alberta, 8 km north of Calgary, Alberta, Canada.According to the legend of Groundhog Day, the groundhog's behavior is a way of forecasting the w...
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At least he isnt this guy
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/01/2023 8:01 PM
adult film star of the same name
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he wishes he was that guy
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/01/2023 8:01 PM
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check-in, how are folx doing tonight?
Going to get more than three hours of sleep tonight, I feel it in my bones. I don’t have to go to work tomorrow, so I get five hours back in my life and don’t have to talk to any politics people šŸ’•
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Was in a room full of SLED agents and people from the DoC today and I forgot how out of practice I am being around those people after growing up surrounded by LEOs
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yikes that sounds super stressful
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I mean, yeah. I’ve never had any bad interactions with law enforcement in an official capacity (dealt with some who were assholes personally), but it still made me feel angry how much more money they wanted and funny in a bad way and stressed they were just all over the place.
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 8:45 PM
i do not understand thermodynmaics ;-;
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seb it/they
i do not understand thermodynmaics ;-;
It’s hot and changing That’s my best guess
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 8:45 PM
so true
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actually correct
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Oh damn, maybe I should be the stem major
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 8:46 PM
bernie is a better thermodynamicist than me and i've literally been researching this shit for 2 years now
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/01/2023 8:49 PM
bernies prolly better than me who managed to get a C average and we only have 2 grades in for thermo (edited)
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 8:50 PM
yo that's really good
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/01/2023 8:50 PM
its really not
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 8:50 PM
i got a 20 on my first thermo quiz
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/01/2023 8:50 PM
cyrus does not teach thermo
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 8:50 PM
no one teaches thermo
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/01/2023 8:50 PM
he teaches physics one and rambles about his job
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A C in something I couldn’t pronounce or spell? That’s a slay
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 8:50 PM
if you want i can go find some lectures the prof i did research with made about thermo
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/01/2023 8:51 PM
i got well below the class average for both assignments i think
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 8:51 PM
they have a biomedical focus but he's the only thermo lecturer i've found that makes any sense
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/01/2023 8:51 PM
he makes sense, he just doesnt faking teach thermo
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we are doing gravity and KE problems
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 8:51 PM
also willing to share any notes/textbooks/other reserouces
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oh that's definately not thermo wtf
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/01/2023 8:52 PM
we have FINALLY got to pistons and its week 4 i think?
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this is the first time i have seen anything related to thermo in this class
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 8:52 PM
uhh...
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/01/2023 8:52 PM
which is fine ig because solid mechanics is doing its best to kill me
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šŸ™ƒ one again facing the fear that i am not capable of graduating and im going to be ruined by debt
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/01/2023 8:53 PM
It's a shame y'all can't share the readings with the group. I wish academia wasn't hidden behind a paywall 😢
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 8:54 PM
oh
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/01/2023 8:54 PM
oh i will absolutely share the readings
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 8:54 PM
i Definately can and will
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It’s not illegal if you don’t get caught
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/01/2023 8:54 PM
I try all the time but you just can't get around it
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Y'all
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 8:54 PM
academia is only behind a paywall if you're using the wrong websites
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/01/2023 8:54 PM
I was trying to be discrete
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 8:54 PM
scihub my beloved
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If you haven’t shared free academic resources with people, you aren’t college-ing right
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havent used this book once btw
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 8:55 PM
also you can always 100% of the time dm me for an instituationally limited resource and I will grab it for you
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Literally same
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 8:55 PM
ew looks yucky
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/01/2023 8:55 PM
Also if you see a paper you want, email the authors of it. They'll send it to you for free, they don't make any money from the journals
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/01/2023 8:56 PM
on a broad level, i am very dissapointed that emch 290 is not actually thermo so far, cause i know that means i just have to pick up the slack in later courses. on a specific level its keeping me alive rn
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 8:57 PM
Library Genesis is a scientific community targeting collection of books on natural science disciplines and engineering.
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this is the book we used
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A-A-Ron (they/them)
Also if you see a paper you want, email the authors of it. They'll send it to you for free, they don't make any money from the journals
seb it/they 02/01/2023 8:57 PM
this often doesn't work bc their emails are flooded (at least for stem stuff in my personal experience)
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not to be negative lol
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/01/2023 8:58 PM
Oh damn. Mine have all been ecology based, so maybe that's the difference. I've always been able to get the papers though. I definitely see how that might be different for different fields though
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 8:58 PM
so many email ;-;
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/01/2023 8:59 PM
Ecology-based and ecology/based, just to be clear
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No one ever emails PoliSci people ;-; Plz email, we’re lonely šŸ˜”
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 9:00 PM
dear poly sci people,,,,what units do i use for "polticial satisfaction" (SI only) thanks, sad engineer (edited)
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seb it/they
dear poly sci people,,,,what units do i use for "polticial satisfaction" (SI only) thanks, sad engineer (edited)
Poly sci sounds wayyyy more interesting than poli sci šŸ‘€ Fun fact, there is no such thing as political satisfaction. Everyone is always angry and sad and on the verge of burning the entire system down
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 9:02 PM
poly science is when i go on dates
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/01/2023 9:02 PM
uwu?
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seb it/they
poly science is when i go on dates
Matt Cox he/him 02/01/2023 9:03 PM
I would think it’s more of a poly art. Is it hard finding a control group?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/01/2023 9:03 PM
error the control group keeps adding new members
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was not able to measure benchmark
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If you have met a PoliSci person who doesn’t think we need to burn it down, you’re talking to someone who wants to be a senator
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Matt Cox he/him 02/01/2023 9:03 PM
ā€œNo we have to go on three more, sample size is pathetic!ā€
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Matt Cox he/him
I would think it’s more of a poly art. Is it hard finding a control group?
seb it/they 02/01/2023 9:04 PM
no, i unironically have had spreedsheets abou tthis in the past bc i am mentally ill lol
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If you have met a PoliSci person who doesn’t think we need to burn it down, you’re talking to someone who wants to be a senator
Matt Cox he/him 02/01/2023 9:04 PM
Wow putting it like that makes more sense than anything I’ve ever heard
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no, i unironically have had spreedsheets abou tthis in the past bc i am mentally ill lol
Matt Cox he/him 02/01/2023 9:04 PM
Lol withdraw the question
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/01/2023 9:05 PM
me when romance
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Matt Cox he/him 02/01/2023 9:05 PM
Roam Ants
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 9:06 PM
athena and i are the ace/aro forces holding everything together
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I wanted to be a senator for a while. Not for any good reason, I just wanted to upstage my mortal enemy, that other political Bernie. I will go to Vermont and unseat him šŸ—”ļø Never shall I hear another Sanders joke again NEVER
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/01/2023 9:07 PM
We don't have the Bernie laser eyes but I'd be reacting that way if we did
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But also critique the hell out of Bernie
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 9:08 PM
which one
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Bernie
I wanted to be a senator for a while. Not for any good reason, I just wanted to upstage my mortal enemy, that other political Bernie. I will go to Vermont and unseat him šŸ—”ļø Never shall I hear another Sanders joke again NEVER
Matt Cox he/him 02/01/2023 9:08 PM
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seb it/they
which one
Me šŸ˜”
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seb it/they 02/01/2023 9:08 PM
i need to make the cool bernie mittens that are better than bernie sanders mittens
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you will win the mittens based battle
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Not to be vain But I’m hotter than Bernie Sanders That’ll get me votes Put on a pair of cat ears and it’s OVER for him
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If the people who need access to the Todo list could dm me their emails i can go ahead and give people access to the whole drive
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Hayden (he/they) 02/02/2023 12:04 AM
Update: the comet could not be seen 😦
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Hayden (he/they) 02/02/2023 12:13 AM
But I did use the opportunity to practice some long exposures with my camera
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Keep in mind thats on a bridge around 10pm
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Looks like the cover of an album I’m not cool enough to have listened to
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Spooky
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Hayden (he/they) 02/02/2023 12:27 AM
We also randomly found an old graveyard along the road
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Oh exciting
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Hayden (he/they) 02/02/2023 12:29 AM
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ronnie (he/him) 02/02/2023 12:29 AM
Spookay
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Hayden (he/they) 02/02/2023 12:30 AM
Probably scared the locals but still a cool 19th century graveyard
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I don’t think the locals saw much from six feet under
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seb it/they
If the people who need access to the Todo list could dm me their emails i can go ahead and give people access to the whole drive
bumping this
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There's a petition drive in Canada with over 12,000 signatures to "extend the right of asylum" to transgender people in unsafe areas of the globe. It includes ""Western democracies" which have historically been presumed safe;" Go sign, Canadians. https://t.co/iHX6pYRAAj
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/02/2023 1:57 PM
@Max (they/it) go sign
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ColorfulKnoll 02/02/2023 11:53 PM
Hope it happens would be very easy to decide where I'd be moving too if our rights get restricted even more with these legislations passing. Hoping I can at least get my associates first
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Camryn Aisling 02/02/2023 11:59 PM
I do have some anchors in canada, so it'd be comparatively easy to relocate there
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Will (He/Him) 02/03/2023 10:39 AM
Is there going to be a recording of the sc legislature 101?
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Matt Cox he/him 02/03/2023 10:41 AM
That would be very nice since a lot of people want to do a thing at the same time. I would hate to ask folk to choose
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Will (He/Him) 02/03/2023 10:43 AM
Yea I really wanted to join but I’m busy unfortunately
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Will (He/Him)
Is there going to be a recording of the sc legislature 101?
If everyone in the zoom call consents to the recording then yes :)
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i cant make it anymore sorry!
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pickles- they/them (mel) 02/03/2023 5:35 PM
Hey we’re getting started
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seb it/they 02/06/2023 5:30 PM
Anyone getting on phone banking right now? (edited)
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seb it/they 02/06/2023 6:34 PM
how is everyone doing today?
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chillin
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/06/2023 6:39 PM
i got like
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a 50
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on a solid mechanics exam
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which i think is pretty good
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Cass (she/her) 02/06/2023 6:40 PM
applying to jobs and doing homework
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/06/2023 6:40 PM
i gotta study for my diff eq exam tomorrow : (
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and then thermo friday
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seb it/they 02/06/2023 6:43 PM
so many exams ;-; i got an 80 on my anat one today
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/06/2023 6:44 PM
thats pretty good
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the solid mechanics one could be a C if he likes my partial work
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seb it/they 02/06/2023 6:44 PM
we all pray for partial credit
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/06/2023 6:45 PM
yeah
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seb it/they 02/06/2023 6:45 PM
@Cass (she/her) what is your major again? i don't remember
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/06/2023 6:45 PM
i just got to a statically indeterminate problem with multiple solid beams and ropes and about 11,000 unknowns and i died
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seb it/they 02/06/2023 6:45 PM
oughhhhH
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/06/2023 6:45 PM
Cass is CIS
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seb it/they 02/06/2023 6:46 PM
computer integrated systems?
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or is that CS with a typo
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/06/2023 6:46 PM
idk i just know the acronym because its funny
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Cass (she/her) 02/06/2023 6:46 PM
Computer Information Systems
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
idk i just know the acronym because its funny
Cass (she/her) 02/06/2023 6:46 PM
T_T
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seb it/they 02/06/2023 6:46 PM
ah i was close
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how come i never see you in swearingon
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Cass (she/her) 02/06/2023 6:46 PM
I never go in there
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seb it/they 02/06/2023 6:46 PM
oh wait bc i hide in my office all the time so i never see anyone
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/06/2023 6:47 PM
i also never see cass
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Cass (she/her) 02/06/2023 6:47 PM
I avoid that building and most engineering buildings in general
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/06/2023 6:47 PM
maybe she is an AI
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Cass (she/her) 02/06/2023 6:47 PM
yes
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that or i'm just really really sneaky
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Cass (she/her)
I avoid that building and most engineering buildings in general
seb it/they 02/06/2023 6:47 PM
very wise
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/06/2023 6:47 PM
fashion gays and sneaking do not mix
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and you have fashion to rival bernie
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Cass (she/her) 02/06/2023 6:48 PM
wait
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that's actually really sweet I love Bernie's fashion
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/06/2023 6:48 PM
cass you literally have professional makeup like 24/7 i cant even be jealous because i know you must put a ton of work into it
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fashion gays and sneaking do not mix
Cass (she/her) 02/06/2023 6:49 PM
I only show myself when I actually put effort in my look to give the illusion I actually have it together
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
cass you literally have professional makeup like 24/7 i cant even be jealous because i know you must put a ton of work into it
Cass (she/her) 02/06/2023 6:49 PM
T_T
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time to cry
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thank you <3
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/06/2023 6:50 PM
u welcome
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i tell no lies
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Cass (she/her)
that's actually really sweet I love Bernie's fashion
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Cass (she/her) 02/06/2023 9:23 PM
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comrade kalia (she/her) 02/08/2023 6:54 PM
@AthenaTheCommie (she/they) @jacklyn is there a list of spoiler/tw requests? can’t find one in any of the channels
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seb it/they 02/08/2023 6:54 PM
We don't have one yet
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comrade kalia (she/her) 02/08/2023 6:54 PM
/ can it be pinned in either #public-moderation or #deleted-channel
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seb it/they 02/08/2023 6:54 PM
I think Athena just started working on one
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comrade kalia (she/her) 02/08/2023 6:55 PM
ah oki
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seb it/they 02/08/2023 6:55 PM
I think the basic idea is "if it could trigger severe trauma for a large number of people put a spoiler"
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/08/2023 6:55 PM
i want to but its also pretty impossible to make a comprehensive cw list as one person
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so if people could put suggestions in #public-moderation
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that would help
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seb it/they 02/08/2023 6:55 PM
And a lot of folx here have been the victims and center of gun violence
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So
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Also i think it's good to say what you are spoilering
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comrade kalia (she/her) 02/08/2023 6:57 PM
i mean i have autism so things like that aren’t necessarily obvious to me, especially since we talk about firearms and hold trainings the way it’s worked in servers ive been in previously is mayhaps have a channel for spoiler requests and a pinned post in #public-moderation that can be edited when someone posts in the spoiler request
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Also i think it's good to say what you are spoilering
comrade kalia (she/her) 02/08/2023 6:58 PM
also yes, for images or words
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/08/2023 6:58 PM
yeah gonna work on it
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comrade kalia (she/her)
also yes, for images or words
seb it/they 02/08/2023 7:00 PM
Both (edited)
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comrade kalia (she/her) 02/08/2023 7:01 PM
oh i meant both yes
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images /and/ words
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seb it/they 02/08/2023 7:01 PM
If you ever are unsure id something should be spoilered you can send me a DM and ask me rq
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I'm also autistic so i get it and am glad to accommodate that
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comrade kalia (she/her) 02/08/2023 7:02 PM
thank; i often don’t know when to ask but if i have uncertainty i will
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https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/3849734-oklahoma-lawmaker-lowers-age-limit-in-proposed-gender-affirming-care-ban/ saw this and thought it might end up being relevant to us down the line... I strongly suspect that this may have been the plan from the start with the age 26 bans. Door-in-the-face technique, start with an absurd and unprecedented age with the intent of lowering it so that it seems more reasonable than it would if proposed alone.
An Oklahoma state senator plans to revise proposed legislation to bar transgender adults up to 26 years old from accessing gender-affirming health care, lowering the age threshold to 18 amid backla…
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Hayden (he/they) 02/09/2023 10:50 PM
This person is visually unpleasant
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Matt Cox he/him 02/10/2023 8:30 AM
Hey all, im canceling the self-defense class tomorrow. Feel free to get together and practice what we’ve learned but this situation seems to be persisting. I’m sick as a dog and desperately hoping it doesn’t interfere with my new job, and I’ll need to save my energy for getting through that
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hope u feel better soon! prideheart
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Matt Cox he/him 02/10/2023 8:31 AM
Thank you. It’s been…an experience
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Fighting germs is harder than fighting people. Have you tried punching them?
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Matt Cox he/him 02/10/2023 9:09 AM
Palm-striking*
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Don’t want to break knuckles, remember
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Smh can’t break knuckles when you have god and anime on your side, that’s just science But please feel better soon ;-;
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Matt Cox he/him 02/10/2023 9:10 AM
Thank you!
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Hayden (he/they) 02/10/2023 9:12 AM
Do the double fisted arm swing attack from star trek tng
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Hayden (he/they)
Do the double fisted arm swing attack from star trek tng
you will break bones you didn’t realize you had
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you will break bones you didn’t realize you had
I sold my bones to the swamp hag for more gender
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/10/2023 2:29 PM
its true, im the swamp hag
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Nico (she/her) 02/10/2023 7:38 PM
I'm gonna be hanging out in the voice chat if anyone wants to join
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seb it/they 02/11/2023 4:32 PM
how is everyone doing?
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anyone need anything or have anything interesting going on?
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Hayden (he/they) 02/11/2023 4:33 PM
Im getting a goofy purchase in tomorrow
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seb it/they 02/11/2023 4:34 PM
what's that
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/11/2023 4:34 PM
i have
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done nothing all day
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for once
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Hayden (he/they) 02/11/2023 4:34 PM
Its a secret
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Until tomorrow
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Hayden (he/they)
Im getting a goofy purchase in tomorrow
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/11/2023 4:35 PM
you think you can hide your actions?
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seb it/they 02/11/2023 4:35 PM
hayden comes out as an adult disney fan
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Hayden (he/they) 02/11/2023 4:36 PM
I can think of few things more embarassing
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/11/2023 4:36 PM
hayden "worst taste ever" asked to leave The Left
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Hayden (he/they) 02/11/2023 4:36 PM
Cancelled for being a disney adult
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seb it/they 02/11/2023 4:37 PM
my older sister is a disney adult
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/11/2023 4:38 PM
cancelling your sister
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seb it/they 02/11/2023 4:40 PM
shes also tw ableism an ABA therapist soooo
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not ideal
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/11/2023 5:25 PM
I do not like your sister
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Hayden (he/they)
Im getting a goofy purchase in tomorrow
Hayden (he/they) 02/12/2023 5:19 PM
Behold
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seb it/they 02/12/2023 5:20 PM
how big is that
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Hayden (he/they) 02/12/2023 5:21 PM
About ernie-sized
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1/16 scale
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It's rc šŸ™‚
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seb it/they 02/12/2023 5:21 PM
what type of tank is that
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Hayden (he/they) 02/12/2023 5:24 PM
A t-34
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Sweet T-34-85!
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Arnold Karr 02/12/2023 5:31 PM
I'm slowly moving into my new place - taking advantage of the free washers and dryers. Deciding where everything will go. Does anyone have a microwave or a hide-a-bed they don't need?
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Arnold Karr 02/12/2023 5:45 PM
"[C]ommunity is at the heart of all we pursue." Keisa Reynolds "Everything worthwhile is done with other people." Mariame Kaba (edited)
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Reading the March edition of In These Times
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Matt Cox he/him 02/12/2023 6:08 PM
Haven’t cracked it yet!
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I'm slowly moving into my new place - taking advantage of the free washers and dryers. Deciding where everything will go. Does anyone have a microwave or a hide-a-bed they don't need?
Hayden (he/they) 02/12/2023 7:25 PM
I might have an extra microwave
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Hayden (he/they) 02/12/2023 9:34 PM
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"[C]ommunity is at the heart of all we pursue." Keisa Reynolds "Everything worthwhile is done with other people." Mariame Kaba (edited)
I did a Mariame Kaba reading tonight during a TT live, truly an amazing activist, love her works on community accountability programs and reformative justice, abolitionist mindset
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"Let this radicalize you rather than lead you to despair." -Mariame Kaba Need it in a tatoo lol
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Hayden (he/they) 02/13/2023 9:09 PM
Hey yall, we had a discussion during the social media chat that we should remove or alter the post about our range day. The image features a gun, which is CW-able in this chat. Are there any issues with removing or altering that post? @everyone
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imo we could just private it
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seb it/they 02/13/2023 9:13 PM
what is the issue with it being up?
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Watson Brown 02/13/2023 9:13 PM
Do I need to CW any time I mention the name of the group that I represent?
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seb it/they 02/13/2023 9:13 PM
no
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it's just images of guns
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Is that for discord in general, or for this group specifically?
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seb it/they 02/13/2023 9:14 PM
this group specifically
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seb it/they
what is the issue with it being up?
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/13/2023 9:14 PM
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seb it/they
what is the issue with it being up?
Hayden (he/they) 02/13/2023 9:14 PM
Its a trigger we already protect from in here
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seb it/they 02/13/2023 9:15 PM
i personally feel like it's fine to leave it, but that's just me
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i am also not impacted in any negative way by depecitions of guns, i think people who actually find that upsetting should have more say in this
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I feel like something out in the wild, so speak, is different from a more curated space like this with the expectation of providing warnings and rules to avoid triggers I am someone who just has problems with guns in person tho, not images, so echoing seb there
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seb it/they 02/13/2023 9:18 PM
is it possible to edit the post or repost with a CW for images of guns?
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that might be the best call tbh
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bc i really don't want cw to prevent us from posting about a topic, to me it's very intentionally not a means of censorship but a way of allowing people to consent and prepair themselves to address a topic
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/13/2023 9:19 PM
i also do not want it to be taken down, twitter has a spoiler feature similar to discord
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i am also not impacted in any negative way by depecitions of guns, i think people who actually find that upsetting should have more say in this
Hayden (he/they) 02/13/2023 9:19 PM
I am simply repeating the words of someone affected by this
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/13/2023 9:19 PM
i just dont know how to retroactively apply it
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seb it/they 02/13/2023 9:19 PM
i think it would definately have to be taken down and reposted
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/13/2023 9:20 PM
yeah
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I understand the sentiment, but the post has also been up on social media for almost a month. This should have been a discussion before the original post went up.
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Watson Brown 02/13/2023 9:27 PM
There's no edit button on Twitter without the blue checkmark
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I understand the sentiment, but the post has also been up on social media for almost a month. This should have been a discussion before the original post went up.
Hayden (he/they) 02/13/2023 9:27 PM
I agree, but I only bring it up because someone brought it up to me
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Totally fair to bring up. That being said, the entire point of a range day is to get people familiar and comfortable around firearms, especially if they weren't previously. A content warning is a good idea for future range days, but changing the one from last month doesn't seem like the best use of time
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Hayden (he/they) 02/13/2023 9:33 PM
This specifically has to do with moderating the twitter, since that image is one of the first on the right (edited)
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Sorry I did not specify that earlier
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Feedback from the affected person: "its a barrier to entry for people in the org who want to help with social media, and not okay for others with gun trauma who stumble across it w/o a cw. just bc we didnt have the guidelines in place at the time, doesn't mean we should grandfather in a lack of care and caution towards those who need it"
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/13/2023 9:38 PM
It is something that we can delete, and should be able to be tweeted with the content hidden unless someone clicks on it
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But if ppl dont want gun content at all that is also perfectly fine
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Hayden (he/they) 02/13/2023 9:39 PM
The way I see it is this: Imagine if we had some other content that we expect a CW in here on public social, like ableist language or a spider or something. I dont think we would want to keep it up in that case, so I think that same consideration applies here. Granted, that should have been brought up when advice was solicited the first time, but its too late for that anyway
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So, the plan is to CW any pictures of firearms in any future range day posts?
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Hayden (he/they) 02/13/2023 9:46 PM
If that's what the consensus is
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/13/2023 9:46 PM
i think its reasonable and appropriate to do so
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/13/2023 9:46 PM
There's not a reason not to
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Hayden (he/they) 02/13/2023 9:47 PM
I can also indict myself as the person who wanted to bring this up here so that we are all on the same page with content guidelines and the specific post
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/13/2023 9:48 PM
It's respectful to people's trauma and good op sec, there's no reason not to.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/13/2023 9:49 PM
okay
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so we need someone to repost the existing tweet
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(i have promised i will not touch the social media so i cannot do it)
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/13/2023 9:52 PM
I deleted it
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Hayden (he/they) 02/13/2023 9:56 PM
Can you repost the info without the problem photo, or by replacing it with a non-gun flag?
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/13/2023 9:57 PM
I have all the info, I'll do it again.
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Watson Brown 02/13/2023 9:57 PM
It can be reposted as is with a CW, no?
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/13/2023 9:58 PM
I should be able to
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Give me a little bit
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Watson Brown 02/13/2023 9:59 PM
I'm not clear on how it's an OPSEC matter, but whatever
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yeah i think not posting the photos would be an opsec matter, cwing them has no impact on opsec
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/13/2023 10:01 PM
Serial numbers, ppl involved
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Serial numbers, ppl involved
Watson Brown 02/13/2023 10:04 PM
I'd have hoped that any images like that would have been appropriately blurred anyway
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Yeah spoilering images doesn't permanently blur them
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/13/2023 10:06 PM
I'm saying to do both, sorry.
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Ah okay good
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Blurring faces and identifying info is good opsec, adding CW's to posts that need them is good social media management. Both are important, but let's not confuse the two ideas
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What is CW?
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A cw is a content warning
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for example CW: talking about CW this is a content warning, this text is spoilered so that if something upsetting is discussed a person can decide their level of engagement with it
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I'm not objecting to the decision to delete a particular post, but as a general rule, how far are we obliged to go in protecting individuals from their own feelings? Almost anything can be a trigger for someone. Can we anticipate them all? (edited)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/14/2023 12:41 PM
We do not have to anticipate, we have a list maintained in #public-moderation that people can request be added to (edited)
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Thanks. I'll check it out.
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I think it's also relevant to say that protecting abuse survivors and survivors of trauma by creating a consent based space is really important to the work we're doing (edited)
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This isn't to avoid talking about sensitive topics, but just to give people the tools to be able to navigate those topics
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Especially given the prevalence of trauma in the trans community
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Arnold Karr 02/14/2023 1:33 PM
RE: Horrific Images My brothers and I would go to Saturday matinees together and I remember one in particular from the 1961 Vincent Price classic The Pit and the Pendulum. The protagonist finds a crypt where Price's character had entombed his wife alive and there are multiple flash close-ups of her face frozen in terror. I think that's the most a film has ever frightened me.
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seb it/they 02/14/2023 1:34 PM
I've heard pretty good things about Vincent price, maybe I'll give it a watch
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Arnold Karr 02/14/2023 1:34 PM
It's on YouTube for free.
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seb it/they 02/14/2023 1:35 PM
Oo nice, I'll definitely check it out
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Arnold Karr 02/14/2023 1:37 PM
There's another great Roger Corman film based on 3 Poe stories: Tales of Terror, with Price, Peter Lorre, and Basil Rathbone.
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V.P. is an example of a terrible anti-Semite who gave some stellar screen performances.
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seb it/they 02/14/2023 1:39 PM
Oh i didn't know he was antisemitic :/ that sucks
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Arnold Karr 02/14/2023 1:40 PM
Yeah. His daughter talked about it in an interview I heard a few years back.
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Hey y'all! Just a heads up, if you're going to any events feel free to take a few photos we'd love to share them on our social medias! Try to avoid faces if you can but if you can't we'll censor them :)
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/16/2023 3:41 PM
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seb it/they 02/16/2023 3:42 PM
@psyduck
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/16/2023 9:45 PM
Violence against the transgender community has been rising dramatically in recent years. With the murder of Brianna Ghey, it is important to be proactive and stand up against the ongoing issue.
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They cut me out of it 😫
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I guess that means I can talk to post and courier
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Somebody feed me talking points
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/16/2023 9:56 PM
no pictures either
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It’s really weird why they’re framing this as a gun violence issue
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Framing things honestly is not a reporter's strongest suit
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BenjaminIsaac 02/16/2023 10:00 PM
guns weren’t involved in Brianna’s murder right? that’s super weird to frame it as (edited)
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Didn’t mention that Brianna ghey was a child except for in @Morgan (they/them) ā€˜s Interview
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guns weren’t involved in Brianna’s murder right? that’s super weird to frame it as (edited)
No she was stabbed
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Really liberalized our positions even in the interviews they put in the story
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Somebody feed me talking points
Hayden (he/they) 02/16/2023 10:06 PM
I started the talking points doc and put one down already
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seb it/they 02/17/2023 3:16 PM
how is everyone doing :)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/17/2023 3:17 PM
glad its the weekend
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Fixed three major crises today, feeling surprisingly good uwu šŸ’•
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Which crises?
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Some stuff with a class, some personal stuff, and some Birdcage stuff
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It all worked out and we’re feeling sexy and fun and thriving
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seb it/they 02/17/2023 3:20 PM
it's always nice when problems happen and then they stop happening
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Sometimes you have to beat a problem into submission šŸ’Ŗ šŸ³ļøā€āš§ļø
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seb it/they 02/17/2023 3:22 PM
here at oat we endorse this
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seb it/they 02/17/2023 7:26 PM
Legislature outreach set up a meeting with democratic caucus first get into contact with LGBTQ caucus (email in spreadsheet) email sent seb 2/8 make a short 5 minute presentation about how we would be affected contact the heads of each committee and meet with them about OAT and the bills send hay...
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just a reminder to folks that this exists, if you need something to do help would be greatly appreciated :)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/17/2023 7:27 PM
I should have time saturday to knock stuff out
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seb it/they 02/17/2023 7:28 PM
If anyone needs permissions for the drive feel free to send a mod a dm with your email as well
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i'll get on some of that tmrw too, today i just needed to rest
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seb it/they 02/17/2023 7:52 PM
Rest is important, take as much time as you need
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/17/2023 9:34 PM
If anyone ever wants feedback and editing advice on a personal statement, I am always available. Though I'm very much in favor of the group option mentioned on the list. (edited)
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seb it/they 02/17/2023 9:40 PM
we've tried to set up an online session for writing and no one came,
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i'm wonderinf if something in person works a bit better
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/17/2023 9:40 PM
okay, my fault. "Always" might not have been the best word
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seb it/they 02/17/2023 9:41 PM
lol no that wasn't intended as a personal acusation
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i'm just trying to figure out what would work better for people (edited)
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/17/2023 9:41 PM
And something in person could, I've also had discord groups where we've pulled off doing things together online. But yes, whatever works best for everyone!
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I'm available online at least lol
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seb it/they 02/17/2023 9:42 PM
yeah i personally prefer online for plauge reasons
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/17/2023 9:45 PM
That, most definitely, and I also live an hour from everywhere
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seb it/they 02/17/2023 9:46 PM
I don't really personally have the energy to get a time nailed down but i think it's a pretty easy thing for us to figure out
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/17/2023 9:49 PM
Yeah, even if it's just a couple people who are all on campus, getting together and sitting quietly in a room together to write actually makes it a lot easier, in my experience at least. (edited)
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on the big todo under "binder exchange program" it says to reach out to @Charleston DSA, are yall already doing this?
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 02/18/2023 11:52 AM
hi! we're currently not doing it afaik. is there like a guide that anyone has on how we could run one? i think @Rubin (he/him) would know more about like, what is the process of getting funding for that. i can also loop in kennedy, the president of cofcs trans student org, to see if we could run one at the college
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i have no clue how the red tape works at DSA but for cofc i'm on okay terms with kennedy
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she is cool and all
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I don't really know of a guide or of anyone who has run one tbh (binder exchange program)
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I've given people old binders before though
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The basic idea is find people who are getting top surgery, get their binders that they no longer need, wash them, give them to people who need binders
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Which i guess step one would be to get into contact with like a surgeon or someone where there's a lot of top surgery occuring
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I don't really know of a guide or of anyone who has run one tbh (binder exchange program)
seb it/they 02/18/2023 2:27 PM
i asked some folx about this, will see if anyone has anythign
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/18/2023 2:53 PM
house/senate specific phone kits are complete and in the drive under legislation
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im also going to make some forms to get members signed up for the legislator contact lists
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pickles- they/them (mel) 02/18/2023 3:01 PM
Hey all! What would you like the phone script to say for the oat patch through? We could make a general ā€œsupport trans people, don’t ban abortions, don’t indoctrinate school children into white supremacyā€ message. Here’s an example of a live phone campaign for reference: https://p2a.co/i2bxsp9 (edited)
I just asked my lawmakers to protect abortion access in South Carolina, join me! http://p2a.co/I2bxSP9
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pickles- they/them (mel)
Hey all! What would you like the phone script to say for the oat patch through? We could make a general ā€œsupport trans people, don’t ban abortions, don’t indoctrinate school children into white supremacyā€ message. Here’s an example of a live phone campaign for reference: https://p2a.co/i2bxsp9 (edited)
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/18/2023 3:02 PM
https://www.oatsc.org/legislation/outreach-kit ive been working off our script from the website page here
This kit is a general guideline. Please feel free to modify it to your personal needs.
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pickles- they/them (mel) 02/18/2023 3:02 PM
K! I’ll make a patch today
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The senate bills will most likely hit senate medical affairs and the house bills, 3M. I can prioritize committee chairs and constituent-to-rep and senator
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pickles- they/them (mel) 02/18/2023 4:00 PM
How’s this? https://p2a.co/nIC5Adw
I just asked my lawmakers to protect gender affirming healthcare in South Carolina, join me! http://p2a.co/nIC5Adw
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As soon as the patch gets some action, I’ll share the reports
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/18/2023 4:08 PM
looks good to me
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/18/2023 4:18 PM
when its done ill embed it in the website too
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pickles- they/them (mel) 02/18/2023 4:18 PM
It’s ready to roll!
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pickles- they/them (mel)
It’s ready to roll!
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/18/2023 4:26 PM
awesome, when i put this on the website, how do you want me to refer to it? should i call it OAT's patch, sc united, etc? im not very familiar with this process but i want to be as transparent as possible.
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sorry forgot the @pickles- they/them (mel)
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pickles- they/them (mel) 02/18/2023 4:32 PM
You can say it’s oat’s patch through, but it’s going through wren’s software license. They will likely be added to wren’s legislative action center, and you probably want to be transparent about that. I can forward the contact lists to you so that you can build your base. Lemme see if I can segment them into a special group for OAT so that they don’t get added to wren’s lists
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pickles- they/them (mel) 02/18/2023 4:43 PM
Another thing to consider is that people hate making calls lol. Calls and in-person meetings are the most effective tactics to influence legislators, but everyone hates to do those things. We’ve found it helpful to do the calls in community with people. (edited)
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We’ve also been successful emailing past action takers with the patch through links. If you have access to lists of people taking action through your website, it’s a safe bet they’ll make calls. (edited)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/18/2023 5:56 PM
okay, its on the unpublished website. im not very happy with the page yet so im going to hold off publishing it until i can figure out how to make it less cluttered
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hihi how is everyone doing today?
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James Harley 02/19/2023 12:15 PM
I’m fine, how are you?
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pretty good just studying
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called my grandpa today and that was really nice
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James Harley 02/19/2023 12:16 PM
Cool, went shopping at the gas station today
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oh cool
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did you get some good snacks
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James Harley 02/19/2023 12:17 PM
Yep, smarties!
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ooo those are some of my favorites
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I’m fine just debating what I want for lunch
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seb it/they
ooo those are some of my favorites
James Harley 02/19/2023 12:18 PM
Mine too!
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doing okay, just finished cpp prep & about to start distro
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hm i should think about lunch
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oh have fun with distro
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hope everything goes well
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we always do lol thx
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my favorite comments from ppl that we sometimes get at finlay is that we act like a big family (:
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aw yeah
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i miss going to distro
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/19/2023 2:03 PM
Spotted on blossom and main st
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seb it/they 02/20/2023 9:32 PM
how's everyone holding up?
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Nico (she/her) 02/20/2023 9:34 PM
tired but overall pretty good, had to go grocery shopping straight after work cause I didn't over the weekend šŸ™
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I made Alfredo and it was good
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Nico (she/her) 02/20/2023 9:34 PM
tho they raised our base pay at work again so that's good
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/20/2023 9:34 PM
i am looking at 30+ hours volunteering for robotics this week
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its hell week
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Nico (she/her) 02/20/2023 9:37 PM
why so much volunteering this week
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/20/2023 9:37 PM
well theres the usual meetings which are about 6-8 hrs of work
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then we have an extra meeting for +4hrs
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and then finally theres competition which runs from about 3-9pm friday, and 6am-8pm sunday
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seb it/they 02/20/2023 9:38 PM
robotics tends to run on a crunchy schedule
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Nico (she/her) 02/20/2023 9:38 PM
oof
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seb it/they 02/20/2023 9:38 PM
so competition week you just live there lol
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Nico (she/her) 02/20/2023 9:39 PM
this is reminding me I need to do work for a nonprofit I'm supposed to be volunteering for sometime this week
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/20/2023 9:39 PM
my cunning plan to remind you
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Nico (she/her) 02/20/2023 9:39 PM
šŸ™
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they sent a message in slack basically like "if you haven't said anything for 2 weeks we'll assume ur inactive and offboard you" and I technically started at the beginning of the month
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but haven't done anything cause I started my new job at the same time basically
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seb it/they 02/20/2023 9:42 PM
hows your new job going?
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Nico (she/her) 02/20/2023 9:42 PM
I originally started with them to gain nonprofit experience and now I'm working for a nonprofit so šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø
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pretty good
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as I mentioned they raised our base pay again so money is looking good
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literally making more than double my previous job
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/20/2023 9:43 PM
from what ive heard you're making more than i ever have as an engineer
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i saw a position yesterday that was paying juniors 15 an hour
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for people with most of a bachelors degree
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Nico (she/her) 02/20/2023 9:43 PM
job itself isn't too hard I just get anxious about it cause I gotta talk to random people all day essentially
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seb it/they 02/20/2023 9:44 PM
yeah that would be rough
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/20/2023 9:44 PM
i could not
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seb it/they 02/20/2023 9:44 PM
i did it when i was a cashier and would go home and never talk to anyone at all
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and hide
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Nico (she/her) 02/20/2023 9:44 PM
yeah I feel like I lucked out, tho this does end march 26th
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/20/2023 9:44 PM
i have a pretty hard limit of 1 new person interaction per day
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Nico (she/her)
job itself isn't too hard I just get anxious about it cause I gotta talk to random people all day essentially
my class made me do that
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bc journalism
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Nico (she/her) 02/20/2023 9:44 PM
but I'm hoping it will be a jumping off point for other nonprofit shit
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i got p good at it and now i dont mind anymore which is cool
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/20/2023 9:45 PM
become an engineer we just hide in the dark and work on computers
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Nico (she/her) 02/20/2023 9:45 PM
I talked about oat to get the job tho lmao
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seb it/they 02/20/2023 9:45 PM
lol nice
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char
i got p good at it and now i dont mind anymore which is cool
Nico (she/her) 02/20/2023 9:45 PM
yeah I feel like this job is making me deal with my anxiety in a very direct way
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i kinda works!
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Nico (she/her) 02/20/2023 9:46 PM
I'm definitely better about getting myself to calm down with social anxiety than before I feel like
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Nico (she/her) 02/20/2023 9:53 PM
also if anyone needs a job and can work any 3-5 days mon-sat 11:30-6:30 a week hmu
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(I also get bonuses for referrals if you work at least one week)
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lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 02/21/2023 10:14 AM
Hey y’all, I know I haven’t been active like… at all but i saw about the clothing swap and I have a ton of plus size feminine clothes I’d love to bring to it and meet some folks! @seb it/they said I could ask if anyone wanted to carpool? I’m legally blind so I can’t drive, but I live in Rutherford County NC (abt 3 hours from Columbia apparently), so if any NC or upstate ppl wouldn’t mind carpooling I can definitely pitch in for gas !! If nothing else I’ll mail them :3
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/21/2023 10:15 AM
@Upstate SC
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another thing lissie and i had been discussing was doing an accessible hike to chimney rock. we're still trying to pin down a saturday where the weather would be good, but if you're interested we're going to be posting about it as soon as we get a definite date
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id love that
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lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 02/21/2023 10:20 AM
Yes!! It’s an elevator ride up the most of it, and the 40 stair steps to the top of the rock. Just to where the elevator stops has a gorgeous view, and the step climbing we would keep pace with the slowest person so no one gets left behind, as many breaks as needed, etc
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If anyone in the upstate would want to take a trip to Asheville at any point as well, the cradle of forestry opens for the season in April iirc and is completely paved and smooth trails :3
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it could be cool to plan another trip to asheville and hike and also visit firestorm
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lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 02/21/2023 10:40 AM
That would be rad
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Matt Cox he/him 02/21/2023 1:34 PM
Hey folks, I had to cancel the last self-defense class and then I got busy and forgot about scheduling a new one. I’ll go ahead and put an even for this weekend, hope to see you all there!
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seb it/they 02/21/2023 1:34 PM
If you want i can make an announcement advertising it as well
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Do you have specific skills you want to focus on? Same location?
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Matt Cox he/him 02/21/2023 1:38 PM
Footwork and parrying/counter striking. Same time/loc. I’m trying to do the event on my phone but can’t seem to figure it out. I’ll get it at home
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seb it/they 02/21/2023 1:38 PM
How's your new job going?
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Matt Cox he/him 02/21/2023 1:52 PM
Thank you for asking! Ups and downs. Will talk more about it when I’m not there šŸ™‚
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Matt Cox he/him 02/21/2023 7:22 PM
Hey do we need admin privileges to create an event? I accidentally made the event in another discord (cause I'm smooth) and I can't find "create event" here
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Also working construction is hard. We're doing home repairs and renovations, and while it's good learning I am TIRED.
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you do
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what time again? 11 was it
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seb it/they 02/21/2023 7:50 PM
Oh yeah that sounds exhausting
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Do you have like proper protection and gear and stuff
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jacklyn
what time again? 11 was it
Matt Cox he/him 02/21/2023 8:42 PM
It has been at 12 I believe but 11 is fine by me. Let me know what everyone thinks
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seb it/they
Do you have like proper protection and gear and stuff
Matt Cox he/him 02/21/2023 8:43 PM
Not really, it’s home repair mostly, some reno. We’re spending the week raising a sunken floor up about 7ā€.
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seb it/they 02/21/2023 8:45 PM
Oof are you on your knees a lot?
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That's brutal and your back and knees
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Matt Cox he/him 02/21/2023 8:47 PM
Yeah, I’m used to protecting my back. I’ve had problems since high school. This project has me squatting but we did a ceiling job last week
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comrade kalia (she/her) 02/22/2023 11:53 AM
psst friends i need advice
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Hi
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comrade kalia (she/her) 02/22/2023 11:53 AM
my car was stolen a month ago and im gonna go buy a new one
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i know women get ripped off by car salesmen but im like 20 months on E and idk if i can pass as a man anymore
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should i just like. fully doll up or what
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Doll up, fuck the car salesman, don't be afraid to walk away if it's not a deal you want
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id do whatever makes u feel comfortable
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Certainly be prepared to walk away.
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whatever you want to do and feels comfortable is a better answer than I gave lol, listen to jacklyn
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If you need someone to fake being your husband/boyfriend/knowledgeable manā„¢ļø I'm sure we can make that happen too
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Caboose
whatever you want to do and feels comfortable is a better answer than I gave lol, listen to jacklyn
comrade kalia (she/her) 02/22/2023 11:57 AM
i mean they’re basically the same answer since that’s what im most comfortable with šŸ˜…
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seb it/they
If you need someone to fake being your husband/boyfriend/knowledgeable manā„¢ļø I'm sure we can make that happen too
comrade kalia (she/her) 02/22/2023 11:57 AM
oh i hadn’t even considered that, thanks for the offer
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dear google how much tits to show to the car salesman for best car price
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At least five
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Reasonable metric
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Tbh if you had five boobs i would give the car away for free
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Pretty sure they meant 5 by weight
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WhichWitch17 02/22/2023 12:00 PM
gonna have to agree with seb, thats very impressive
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Pretty sure they meant 5 by weight
. . . No.
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Five
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Just 5, got it 🤣🤣
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comrade kalia (she/her) 02/22/2023 12:01 PM
same energy
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WhichWitch17 02/22/2023 12:04 PM
its a fair question
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Is there a recording of the renters rights zoom? Sorry if i missed it!
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/22/2023 1:07 PM
I'll see if I can find one!
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I don't see it anywhere as of now. I also wasn't able to attend, so if anybody else did they might know.
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comrade kalia (she/her)
should i just like. fully doll up or what
This is more general/long term advice but there's a book called Influence by a social psychologist which I recommend for situations like this. It not only explains how salespeople pressure and influence but gives strategies for resisting such influence
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comrade kalia (she/her) 02/22/2023 1:12 PM
thx comrade
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/22/2023 1:13 PM
does it tell me how many tits i need
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very interested in this answer
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No prob! It is good to take a friend as well, someone whose sole job is to play devil's advocate lol
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
does it tell me how many tits i need
Bernie was right, it's 5
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According to ScIeNcE
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Btw if I can I will dig up a pdf of influence on zlibrary this afternoon and share it here
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OAT should have business cards to give to legislators
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seb it/they 02/22/2023 1:27 PM
added to the todo list :)
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Rad !
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seb it/they 02/22/2023 1:27 PM
idk if i could print them with my printer...
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Currently in statehouse for meet me at the statehouse
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seb it/they 02/22/2023 1:28 PM
how is that going
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Apparently there’s a freebusinesscards.com
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seb it/they 02/22/2023 1:28 PM
huh seems fake
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This is more general/long term advice but there's a book called Influence by a social psychologist which I recommend for situations like this. It not only explains how salespeople pressure and influence but gives strategies for resisting such influence
Robert Cialdini?
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It is going !
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OAT should have business cards to give to legislators
Oh yeah, these people work old school The amount of times I’ve been talking to a legislator or agency person and been asked for a business card And I’m just like šŸ•“ļø
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seb it/they 02/22/2023 1:31 PM
i'm going to throw a QR code at them
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lol that would not work but
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comrade kalia (she/her)
dear google how much tits to show to the car salesman for best car price
comrade kalia (she/her) 02/22/2023 4:04 PM
in case anyone’s wondering here’s the car buying fit
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seb it/they 02/22/2023 4:05 PM
Aw you look super good
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Fuck ā€˜em up Make them pay you to take one of their cars
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comrade kalia (she/her) 02/22/2023 4:05 PM
$10,821 after negotiations and fees for a used Hyundai Elantra with 104k miles on it
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thats not bad
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whats the car history look like
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comrade kalia (she/her) 02/22/2023 4:06 PM
drives nice, looks nice, and i can put the whole 10k down since my last car was stolen & insurance paid me for it
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whats the car history look like
comrade kalia (she/her) 02/22/2023 4:07 PM
not bad actually!! one minor collision but averaged like 15k miles a year for the 7 years it’s been on the market for
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and lots of service history so well taken care of
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yeah not horrible
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im actually getting a car too
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Subaru?
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my civic was totaled so im getting a subaru
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yep!! white outback
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Subaru!
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It’s such a fun brand name
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seb it/they 02/22/2023 4:09 PM
Subaru :3
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Gayest car
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exactly
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comrade kalia (she/her) 02/22/2023 4:09 PM
i was gonna say that’s the lesbian car
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subuwu
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Add in a dog with a bandana and you have a lesbian experience right there
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comrade kalia (she/her)
i was gonna say that’s the lesbian car
TRUE
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comrade kalia (she/her) 02/22/2023 4:11 PM
is my car gay enough
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Paint it hot pink
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Blind literally everyone on the road
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Dazzle them
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comrade kalia (she/her) 02/22/2023 4:12 PM
i can’t it would cost too much to insure 🄲
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Ooh, bedazzle your car? That seems very practical and reasonable
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comrade kalia (she/her) 02/22/2023 4:13 PM
hell yeah that’s the way to go
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Robert Cialdini?
Yup!
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robin (they/it) 02/22/2023 5:43 PM
has anyone seen the micarah tewers video where she makes her car and scooter bright pink and barbie themed
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seb it/they 02/22/2023 5:43 PM
yes
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Max (they/it) 02/22/2023 5:43 PM
yes, love it
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robin (they/it) 02/22/2023 5:44 PM
amazing video just do that to the car
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heres my car most likely
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robin (they/it) 02/22/2023 5:50 PM
pinkify it
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cade (he/him) 02/22/2023 5:50 PM
that’s a nice ass car !
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seb it/they 02/22/2023 5:50 PM
yooooo white subaru (edited)
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you should name it
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oh i absolutely will
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/22/2023 5:50 PM
jiffary
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seb what subaru do u have
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the name has to come natrually
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cade (he/him) 02/22/2023 5:50 PM
a sebaru
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a sebaru
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/22/2023 5:50 PM
banned from oat
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now
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seb it/they 02/22/2023 5:50 PM
i don't really want to put my wholeass car make and model on the internet where i don't have to lol
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cade (he/him) 02/22/2023 5:50 PM
NOOOOOO
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seb it/they
i don't really want to put my wholeass car make and model on the internet where i don't have to lol
understandable
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seb it/they 02/22/2023 5:51 PM
don't worry i'll sneak u back in
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i welcome the seb puns
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/22/2023 5:51 PM
too powerful
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seb it/they 02/22/2023 5:51 PM
this is what happens when you organize hierarchically kids
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i make puns and you can't get rid of me
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or more accurately someone else makes puns, i like them, and you can't get rid of us
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/22/2023 5:52 PM
we must decentralize the mods
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seb it/they 02/22/2023 5:52 PM
tbh it does make me uncomfortable to like
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have modness
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/22/2023 5:53 PM
i pretend it doesnt exist
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seb it/they 02/22/2023 5:53 PM
does anyone here have resume writing expereince?
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specifically for engineering companies
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not for engineering no
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/22/2023 5:53 PM
i just got mine rewritten with the career center if you want me to share it
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seb it/they 02/22/2023 5:53 PM
general resume help is also apprecaited
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/22/2023 5:53 PM
i can cut out all the personal stuff
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seb it/they 02/22/2023 5:54 PM
yes that would be helpful (you can also just dm it to me)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/22/2023 5:54 PM
ofc i am not posting my resume here
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seb it/they 02/22/2023 5:54 PM
i'm going to hit up Ray as well, but i need one by tomorrow (edited)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/22/2023 5:54 PM
there are about 12 ways i could dox myself with this document
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seb it/they 02/22/2023 5:57 PM
i love how i as a full adult in an engineering program have coloring pages as a homework assignment ;-;
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/22/2023 5:58 PM
honestly that sounds pretty cool
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seb it/they 02/22/2023 5:58 PM
i'd send photos, but it's anatomy stuff
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/22/2023 6:00 PM
currently imagining a society of sentient bridges where civil engineers are doctors
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-athena's brain
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heres my car most likely
Camryn Aisling 02/22/2023 11:33 PM
Yoooo, what model year? If it's a 2021, make sure to get the recall issues fixed before picking it up, if you can
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Oh wow, you rock! Our internet went down tonight, so thanks!
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how is everyone doing
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i'm waiting for a telehealth appointment atm
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/23/2023 11:34 AM
I wanna take a nap 😓
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oof same
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James Harley 02/23/2023 11:36 AM
My crush gave me a flower after class yesterday!
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oh rad
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/23/2023 11:37 AM
I am in bio lab
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James Harley 02/23/2023 11:37 AM
Yeah, I’m protecting it better than my last flower!
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im resting before class, gl with your appointment I hope it goes well
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thanks, it's just my T appointment so it should go well
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planned parenthood is already 8 minutes late though :/
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/23/2023 11:39 AM
Oofers
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Hold in there
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My HRT doc was 20 minutes late once
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i'm supposed to go to a job fair today so i hope they don't take tooo long
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/23/2023 11:44 AM
Lol I'm going to a job fair as well
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ooo good luck
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/23/2023 11:45 AM
I'm just taking photos lol. Good luck to you though!
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thanks
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There’s only two uniformed officers in the public hearing I’m in rn, which is blessedly fewer than expected. And tbh they’re kinda old, I could probably take them in a fight So a good day so far
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planned parenthood is offically 20 minutes late :/
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i finally heard back from another landlord this morning (:
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oh cool
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//a sentence i never thought id say with glee//
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Hayden (he/they) 02/23/2023 11:55 AM
Pleading for his life?
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if only
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uhh in minecraft ofc
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seb it/they
planned parenthood is offically 20 minutes late :/
any word?
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nope
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wondering at what point i should just give up
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i dont' want to get charged as like a noshow or anything like that
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Hayden (he/they) 02/23/2023 11:58 AM
They should do like dominos and give you free hrt if it's not 30 minutes or less
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i agree
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they should give me an extra vial
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mfw hrt should just be free (edited)
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i feel like after 30 minutes they cant charge u but idk fs
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mine basically is with insurance
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idk
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i'm just coloring for my class lol
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but the job fair started uhhh right now....
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/23/2023 12:02 PM
So many cops and military at this job fair. SO many. šŸ˜“
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yeah mine is going to have both the Navy, FBI, and army :/
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i will avoid them
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Hayden (he/they) 02/23/2023 12:04 PM
Does the CIA still table on campus?
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yeah i think they're also listed as one of the employers coming too
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ugh
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still nothing
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i give up
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i guess i should just reschedule
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Hayden (he/they) 02/23/2023 12:21 PM
I sorry about that Seb
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Are they just super understaffed?
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seb it/they 02/23/2023 3:21 PM
apparently their power went out today??
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i got the appointment rescheduled and the person on the phone was super nice
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i hope nothing bad happened
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i might have a week or two that i can't take T :/
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The People's repurposed reinforced Walmart shopping cart
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lol what do you use it for
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Moving steel and tools around the factory
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Neat
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cade (he/him) 02/24/2023 1:07 PM
just remembered i tried telling this lady about OAT and she thought i said Organized Transphobia šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€ i was like NO! the opposite!!
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Was she interested in OT?
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seb it/they 02/24/2023 1:08 PM
Haha I've had the same thing happen
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cade (he/him) 02/24/2023 1:13 PM
she didn’t sound specifically interested, more so unopposed to the idea of OT… so she’s on very thin ice
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/24/2023 2:06 PM
OT isnt even a good acronym smh (edited)
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Which reminds me that our next decal design 100% should be a bowl of oats in trans colors
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/24/2023 2:19 PM
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robin (they/it) 02/24/2023 3:03 PM
didn't someone make a cheeri oats one a while ago
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Low tier original content lmao (edited)
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Hayden (he/they) 02/24/2023 4:59 PM
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/24/2023 5:05 PM
Idk I feel like there's something here as well...
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lol i was wondering when the quaker oats memes were going to come
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Matt Cox he/him 02/25/2023 8:51 AM
@everyone Hey all, I’m sure you’ve noticed the soggy ground and threatening sky. There is a covered, concrete stage at the place we usually meet, we could use that. If anyone has any other ideas feel free to put them here. Otherwise see you there!
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/25/2023 7:03 PM
aaaaaaaaaaaaa
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i am finally home
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12 hour robotics shift yaaaaaaaaaaay
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robin (they/it) 02/25/2023 7:07 PM
your 12 hour robot drives manual ?
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seb it/they 02/25/2023 9:56 PM
How is everyone doing?
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Image Id: a sweater turned inside out with a patch being applied
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I am resurrecting this sweater
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/25/2023 9:58 PM
i am exhausted beyond all reason
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i have spent 10 hours on my feet today
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seb it/they 02/25/2023 9:58 PM
Oh jesus
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/25/2023 9:59 PM
robotics life grind
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😢
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Build robot feet?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/25/2023 9:59 PM
the team lost btw
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seb it/they 02/25/2023 9:59 PM
There's a reason i don't do it anymore lol
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/25/2023 9:59 PM
very sad
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but they did well
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best bot on the field, they just got unlucky
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they did have a boston dynamics dog at the event which was i guess kind of neat
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Hey all
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Fought the extreme urge to get a musket today
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seb it/they 02/26/2023 7:48 AM
My best friend from high school has one
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It's pretty cool
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It's finally time! Trans girl scout cookies! Trans kids are under attack nationwide. The Girl Scouts has accepted trans girls and non-binary kids for years now. Let's make the lives of some trans scouts a little bit better and get tasty cookies to boot. Thread of links here! 🧵
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Just another day of being a blue collar industrial shmuck
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sadge
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It's okay tho. I'm a welder so I get to have the unearned ego of a fighter pilot and the god complex of a surgeon
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/27/2023 2:34 PM
cool
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if USC could hurry up and finish their makerspace im going to learn welding
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
if USC could hurry up and finish their makerspace im going to learn welding
why wait? get a torch and start practicing, there's plenty of cars around, I'm sure they won't miss a few
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cool
I also have access to a workshop to teach a bit of welding
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/27/2023 2:43 PM
yoooooooooooooooooo
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My old blacksmithing boss gave me a key to the shop as payment for a favor
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/27/2023 2:44 PM
ive got access to a couple campus workshops but none of them do welding
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What do they do?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/27/2023 2:46 PM
the RPL mostly does 3d printing with a lil bit of electronics
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300 sumter has a bunch of real heavy duty stuff, they have a 2.5 axis mill and various other cnc machines
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Ooooo machinists (edited)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/27/2023 2:47 PM
but you cant use most of the 300 sumter machines without a work order : (
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The thing about being a welder on a jobsite is that you know you're the most important person on site and everyone else might as well not show up
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(ego problems)
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seb it/they 02/27/2023 2:49 PM
what type of welding do you do?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/27/2023 2:49 PM
ive got a couple friends in construction, none of whom are welders, all of which say the same thing about their job lol
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seb it/they
what type of welding do you do?
Underwater playing card holders.
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seb it/they
what type of welding do you do?
I've done a little bit of everything coming into welding from Blacksmithing and French Baking
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I'm certified in every process
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I've done a little bit of everything coming into welding from Blacksmithing and French Baking
Baguettes are lethal
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seb it/they 02/27/2023 2:52 PM
i've always wanted to be better at machining/welding/building things
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but i'm consistenly not good at it lol
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better than some people ig
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there's a reason i do computational work
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/27/2023 2:53 PM
you can take my computations
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i just want to CAD stuff all day
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seb it/they 02/27/2023 2:53 PM
ew
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cad
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/27/2023 2:53 PM
except when the software doesnt cooperate, then i want to reach through the PC and strangle autodesk
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Welders tend to be paid a far bit more than their peers in the same factory (edited)
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Which causes friction
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seb it/they 02/27/2023 2:54 PM
i am learning how to do PCR this week
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that's my practical technical skill of the week
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I wanna learn machining so I can start drilling out AR-15 receivers
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/27/2023 2:55 PM
i want a lathe
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very badly
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JB Weld is superior to all versions of heat welding @Priest
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I wanna learn machining so I can start drilling out AR-15 receivers
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/27/2023 2:56 PM
this wouldnt be too hard with a competent computerized mill probably
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on the downside those are going to run you 10k
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Can't hear your non welder cope underneath my hood homeboy
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Can't hear your non welder cope underneath my hood homeboy
Real welders don't need hoods
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... or eyes I guess
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"Be the bead"
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/27/2023 3:03 PM
i may not know how to weld
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but i have a hand riveter
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fear my hand cramps
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if USC could hurry up and finish their makerspace im going to learn welding
Arnold Karr 02/27/2023 4:19 PM
Too bad there's no Boilermakers' local here. I met a woman in Seattle back in '77 who was learning to weld for free. There was a huge shipyard there back then- I don't know if it's still there.
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robin (they/it) 02/27/2023 5:39 PM
i learned to weld in my garage im not good at it but ive made a couple animal statues from scraps
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seb it/they 02/27/2023 8:56 PM
@lissie ! (pls ping) they/she i think you posted in the wrong channel
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lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 02/27/2023 8:56 PM
Shit
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My b
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Hi, poking my head in again! I’m starting to go thru my closet for the clothing exchange. If there’s any requests for types of clothes etc, feminine sized xxxl-4x / 24-28, pls dm or ping me! I want to bring what’s most needed. I have a lot of various aesthetics and styles as well. I can also bring some unused makeup and perhaps gently used jewelry if anyones interested. Still looking for a ride (rutherford county, NC) but may be able to get one myself and if not I can mail them to @seb it/they šŸ™‚
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Thanks for pointing out my blind ass wouldn’t have noticed
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Lmao
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seb it/they 02/27/2023 8:57 PM
(lizzie you should post photos in #queer-joy so people can know how stylish you are)
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lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 02/27/2023 8:57 PM
sighs in where have my spoons gone
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(lizzie you should post photos in #queer-joy so people can know how stylish you are)
lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 02/27/2023 8:57 PM
Ok omg
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lissie ! (pls ping) they/she
sighs in where have my spoons gone
the racoons stole them
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they like shinies
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Bernie
the racoons stole them
lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 02/27/2023 9:07 PM
Damn raccoons >: (
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CW:triggers and academia I don't know what is going to become of the academic world as we have known it as we on the left advocate for increased or, in some cases, demand safe spaces when addressing real-world issues in a way that fosters higher order thinking. The most recent case that comes to mind, where an institution made the wrong call, in my opinion, is the professor of art history who announced in a course syllabus that religious art would be a major component of the lectures. She specified that an image of the Prophet Muhammad from the middle ages would be shown during one lecture and that any students who believed they would find that offensive would be allowed to skip that lecture with no penalty. She stressed that again prior to the lecture in question beforehand and at the beginning of that lecture, so no one would be caught unawares. Nevertheless, a student who attended the lecture complained to the university administration that they had found the display offensive and the administration responded by firing the professor. --- The university is a place where young adults are prepared for life in a world from which many of them have been sheltered by parents, public and private schools, and politicians with an axe to grind. The term "liberal arts" refers to the freedom that comes from the honest pursuit of knowledge, in the sense that "the truth makes you free:" free to inquire, to discover, and speak whatever proves to be true. That necessitates uncomfortable conversations about hot-button issues. I carry no debilitating emotional scars that I know of, I can share two experiences of being on both sides of intense academic discussions. The first was my senior year in high school. It was the first year that Greenville County schools had been fully integrated following a second semester integration in January of 1970, pursuant to a SCOTUS order to implement an 80/20% balance of White/Black students statewide.
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cw: continued One of the curriculum adjustments that was made the following year involved allowing 4th year English Lit. students to choose 3 six-week courses, one of which was titled Black Literature. In one of the class sessions, I made a comment I thought at the time was very reasonable and tolerant, to which one of the Black students told me in somewhat less inflammatory language that I was full of shit. It was the bare beginning of an awakening for me. The second experience was an intro to Philosophy class at Furman. The professor and one of his colleagues had chosen a particular text that covered every major period in the history of philosophy and argued each philosopher's position as if it were the absolute truth. It was one of the most mind-bending experiences of my life, as one week we were indoctrinated with platonic dualism and the following with rational materialism, as well as contradictory attitudes toward morality and religion, not to mention the nature of reality itself. The only reply we were given when we asked what the real truth was, "It's on the back of your diploma," and I think that blank page is the most valuable takeaway from my school years. We have our experiences that give rise to our questions, with some very wrong answers but none that are absolutely right.
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cw: P.S. I failed to mention that the Black Lit class was a White BJU grad. Not that there were no Black teachers in the school. It just goes to show has stupid school administrators can be.
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/28/2023 11:58 AM
So...I've thought about this a lot over the years, even as I've left school. I think there's definitely some good things to think about...but I also think the framing of this conversation within mainstream media and administrations has gotten away from the people who actually request things like safe spaces and content warnings. The focus should be on trauma, not "offensive" "hot topics" or "controversial topics" etc. Etc.. Now, that gets hard to pin down, and there is definitely overlap. I can't speak to the example you cited here. And I think it's actually something that teachers and students should have a lot more solidarity and conversations around...idk. I think the issues that arise from how this plays out has a lot more to do with the structure of the academy than an issue with trying to keep from re-traumatizing people, if that makes sense.
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Things like mental health care being stuck behind a paywall (and having its own issues as an institution) is also very key to this discussion.
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The academy is also a business, its bottom line is not educating the public...it is making money and creating more managers. At the end of the day, it wants to protect its bottom line...not the people that make up its community.
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So...I've thought about this a lot over the years, even as I've left school. I think there's definitely some good things to think about...but I also think the framing of this conversation within mainstream media and administrations has gotten away from the people who actually request things like safe spaces and content warnings. The focus should be on trauma, not "offensive" "hot topics" or "controversial topics" etc. Etc.. Now, that gets hard to pin down, and there is definitely overlap. I can't speak to the example you cited here. And I think it's actually something that teachers and students should have a lot more solidarity and conversations around...idk. I think the issues that arise from how this plays out has a lot more to do with the structure of the academy than an issue with trying to keep from re-traumatizing people, if that makes sense.
All very true. The student debt gravy train was nothing like it is now. The SC Tuition Grant and NDSLs left me and I presume most students who came from middle class backgrounds with manageable debt and a solid education, in my opinion. What Congress has done in the years since is create a system that involves no risk to the schools that get their money up front with no accountability to graduates or dropouts who are unprepared to earn a living and lenders who know they'll get their money with interest from the debtors or the Treasury. All the risk is borne by students who cannot get out from under the debt unless except by dying. So the universities hike the prices and the banks lend the money.
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/28/2023 12:47 PM
Yeah, sorry, I didn't directly respond to your stated concerns...but I think it's bc of how much of those concerns can really only be addressed in institutions that generally value people and education as such. And the university as it stands does not lol. Idk, I do currently work at a university, but I would be interested in seeing what current students have to say on the matter.
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See that's why I never bothered with any of that academia shit
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If you don't need it to figure out who you are or how to get what you want, it's a waste.
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Slag crunching and smoke breathing, figured that out when I first saw Mad Max Fury Road
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/28/2023 12:58 PM
Lol. Yeah, it's a mixed bag I'd say. If someone wants to pursue some sort of education I'd always encourage it. There's lots of things I'd do differently to make it more worthwhile though.
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And it seems like a lot of the ppl in here are doing cool stuff that I'm really jealous of lol
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Literally saw that movie and realized then and there what I wanted to do with the rest of my life
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Nico (she/her) 02/28/2023 6:49 PM
Met my representative David O'Neal today by coincidence, one of the sponsors of hb 3551
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Nico (she/her)
Met my representative David O'Neal today by coincidence, one of the sponsors of hb 3551
cade (he/him) 02/28/2023 6:54 PM
how’d that go?
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Nico (she/her) 02/28/2023 6:58 PM
I was working so I didn't get a chance to talk about the bill really but he did sign the environmental petition (my job is to get signatures for environmental regulations)
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pro environmentalism but anti transgenderism is an interesting approach to politics lol
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Peter singer moment
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Nico (she/her) 02/28/2023 7:42 PM
I got a guy reading breitbart to sign the other day too šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø
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cade (he/him) 02/28/2023 8:15 PM
ayy you sound good at your job
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seb it/they 02/28/2023 8:22 PM
How is everyone doing
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a little overwhelmed thinking about my next ~48 hours but alright overall
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seb it/they 02/28/2023 8:26 PM
Yeah me too
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What have you got coming up?
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I've got an exam and a lab report
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moving into a new place tmrw morning, then work, then a date, and then work + the potluck the next day
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aside from work its not bad just wall to wall stuff
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/28/2023 8:31 PM
Moving is so fucking stressful though, but I am glad you got a place!!!
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I've got an exam and a lab report
gl on the exam + report
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/28/2023 8:31 PM
im actually pretty excited for spring break
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i get to do stuff with friends!!!!
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ive never had an actual spring break before
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i usually just spend it alone
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 02/28/2023 8:33 PM
Holiday breaks were always so weird for me, bc I couldn't go anywhere, so why not work? But the places I worked would close, so then I'm losing money. Basically spent the whole time catching up on schoolwork. That's all to say, enjoy your spring break! šŸ’œ
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i usually just spend it alone
Lol same, I’ve never actually spent time with people over breaks It’s horrifying but in a sexy way?
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pro environmentalism but anti transgenderism is an interesting approach to politics lol
Eco-fascism in a nutshell lol
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I interrupt this broadcast to post one of Trotsky's personal train troops
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Eco-fascism in a nutshell lol
A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/01/2023 9:57 AM
Yeah...American environmentalism is historically uh...not great. I think they've done some good to reckon with it over the years but I am still hesitant about a lot of environmental ppl.
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/01/2023 2:36 PM
To the Trans folks being targeted, know that Kansas City stands with you. šŸ³ļøā€āš§ļø
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Love a good skyline.
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seb it/they 03/01/2023 8:58 PM
How is everyone doing tonight?
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Nerak1 Dave 03/01/2023 8:59 PM
I'm good. Had a decent b-day.
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robin (they/it) 03/01/2023 9:08 PM
happy birthday šŸŽ‰šŸŽ‚
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/01/2023 9:14 PM
🄳🄳🄳🄳
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Matt Cox he/him 03/01/2023 9:31 PM
T🄳🄳T!
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/02/2023 9:22 AM
That was last night
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Oh oops
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/02/2023 9:32 AM
No worries lol.
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i had an idea- i make trans flag bracelets along with other pride flags. i think it could be cool to do something with them for oat?
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id need to get more beads tho
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/03/2023 8:38 AM
I've been wanting to make myself a bracelet lol thanks for reminding me.
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 8:38 AM
I have some you can use char
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i have plenty rn im just out of pink , light blue and white
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 9:20 AM
I've got letters
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sharing this project for a friend of mine doing amazing work! ✨ [sparkle emoji] from the website: This zine is looking for collaborators to contribute art that directly confronts and exists in dialogue with our medical records. Any work that confronts psychiatric authority through exploring different explanatory models for understanding our mad...
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/03/2023 1:40 PM
yay done with my last exam : )
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yay done with my last exam : )
ronnie (he/him) 03/03/2023 1:41 PM
Congrats!!!!
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robin (they/it) 03/03/2023 1:59 PM
spring break !!!!!
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 3:51 PM
wanted to confirm: in terms of fundraising we’re still looking for more opportunities right? i wanna make sure because i’m seeing if i can connect us with the ppl at the capital club or even new brookeland tavern or pt’s 1109. they all do a lot of shows, many of which feature trans ppl, so i think if we can set it up and make it work, it would be worth it and be a win/win
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also sorry i don’t really know the specific ppl to go to about these things, if there are any šŸ’€
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Hayden (he/they) 03/03/2023 3:56 PM
One strategy we talked about is finding and vetting a trans fund that we could then signal boost. That way the funds go directly to someone in need and doesn't have to touch us, which is a weird legal grey area
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And we don't really have overhead costs at this point anyway
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 3:58 PM
gotcha, smth already more established
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 3:59 PM
We had discussed funneling funds to the trans love fund that we are family maintains
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 4:01 PM
that would be a good one that we could follow up with, also off the top of my head, maybe the harriet hancock center? they’re very columbia-centric; but i’m not too aware of their reputation or anything like that. they’re one of the biggest ones around as far as i know tho
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 4:02 PM
We do not like them
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 4:02 PM
o h
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 4:02 PM
They work with cops and have said some very antagonistic things to us
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 4:03 PM
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yikes
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maybe we are family would be the one to pursue then
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cade (he/him)
that would be a good one that we could follow up with, also off the top of my head, maybe the harriet hancock center? they’re very columbia-centric; but i’m not too aware of their reputation or anything like that. they’re one of the biggest ones around as far as i know tho
they also have a history of transphobia and racism, although from my understanding they are making steps to address the transphobia
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 4:05 PM
them not making steps to address the racism šŸ’€
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very good info to know all around tho!
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I don't know that they aren't trying to fix the racism, but I'm more familiar with the transphobia stuff in regards to them
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 4:19 PM
so in terms of how that might work, i imagine one would need to confirm interest with the club or venue first, then either let them follow through in contacting we are family directly/or contact them on their behalf as a middle man, and then after it’s set up between those two parties and whatever performers they would book, OAT would just promote the event and that’d be that?
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a better question maybe: how do we initiate a club fundraiser for we are family
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 4:31 PM
We have sent WAF an email and they responded and we've written a response but not sent it yet
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Their email response and the original email are linked in #org-building
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 4:35 PM
oh hell yeah it says they’d be open to as many good fundraising opportunities as possible
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thank y’all for all the help btw!
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 4:37 PM
Of course
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It would be useful if you would look at the response email
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I'd love to send it out Monday morning
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 4:40 PM
it looks good and ready as far as i can tell! so we’ve already contacted the capital club; but they haven’t gotten back is what i’ve heard right?
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 4:40 PM
I think so @jacklyn knows better than I do
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 4:46 PM
i’m tryna see if i can push for an event or at least a response about one through a few performers that work with the capital club and are interested in being a part of fundraising for this. it may take a bit; but i’ll let y’all know if it goes anywhere
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 4:50 PM
I think you should also try to reach out to preformers here
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@Sam McKenzie might be able to help with that?
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 4:51 PM
that’s actually the one i’ve spoken to so far!! they’ve shown some good interest in wanting to help if possible; but we’ve only talked on ig tho
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 4:52 PM
Oh neat
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 4:53 PM
i think they have a lot of connections tho so hopefully with the info of WAF wanting to work with us or at least have more fundraisers, at least one can go through
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it looks good and ready as far as i can tell! so we’ve already contacted the capital club; but they haven’t gotten back is what i’ve heard right?
we havent directly contacted capital club to my knowledge. ik of the fundraising opportunity thru TAA
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cade (he/him) 03/03/2023 5:54 PM
so TAA has tried the capital club?
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and if so, do you know whether or not they still were unresponsive?
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capital club just offers this to non-profits once a month
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TAA is willing to act as our fiscal sponsor and let us use their non-profit status
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we have yet to reach out to capital bc we havent yet decided to pursue fundraising as an org
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 8:26 PM
how is everyone doing tonight?
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im doing okay just resting
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do you hve a recipe for the doodles they were v good
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 8:27 PM
oh yeah one sec
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Score all the bear hugs from the cinnamon lover in your life with this easy recipe for tangy, chewy, cinnamon-sugar-crusted snickerdoodles.
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i'd love to bake them again with friends if anyone wants
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seb it/they
how is everyone doing tonight?
im doing alright, had dinner with my folks
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it was.. only a little uncomfortable
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but not terribly bad
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seb it/they 03/03/2023 8:54 PM
that's good, glad it wasn't intolerable
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/04/2023 10:02 AM
The era of anarchist rats is coming to a close, so you know what that means! It is time again to choose anew for March 2023! Who would you like to be next in the series? RANKED CHOICE VOTE HERE: https://t.co/QlJcaZ5McJ
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seb it/they 03/04/2023 9:11 PM
How is everyone doing tonight?
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Folk punk in somebody’s basement
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James Harley 03/04/2023 9:12 PM
I wrote two songs today, I’m doing great!!!!
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I’m watching a movie with my cat
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seb it/they 03/04/2023 9:14 PM
Nice
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Being trapped
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seb it/they 03/04/2023 9:16 PM
Hehe creature
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Hehe creature
He gets upset with me if I stay up late
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seb it/they 03/05/2023 7:49 AM
You're disrupting his bed time
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I would be upset too
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seb it/they 03/07/2023 7:20 AM
Y'all I'm finally actually on break
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I feel so relieved ;-;
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seb it/they 03/07/2023 7:31 AM
I'm going to learn about conflict mediation and transformative and restorative justice stuff over the break
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Does anyone have any resources
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/07/2023 10:35 AM
Ummm, I have a couple of digital zines I could send over your way later tonight.
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Cool thanks :)
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/07/2023 10:41 AM
Mariame Kaba is also probably the more obvious answer.
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Building Your Abolitionist Toolbox: Everyday Resources for a Punishment-Free World
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https://www.akpress.org/creative-interventions-toolkit.html Sure you could maybe find a free PDF on the interwebs for this too
A practical guide to community-based interventions to interpersonal violence, a process also known as community accountability or transformative justice.
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i want to read this now
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/07/2023 2:56 PM
I bought another workbook for like $40 and when I started reading it, it told me on the first page that I needed to read this one first lol. It's like, they should tell you that before you buy it. But, I just stuck with the zines and haven't looked for a PDF of the book. I'll check and see if I can find one tonight if nobody else can find one.
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seb it/they
I'm going to learn about conflict mediation and transformative and restorative justice stuff over the break
You're in my study group right?
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seb it/they 03/07/2023 3:42 PM
no i'm not
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seb it/they
no i'm not
I'll dm you
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seb it/they 03/07/2023 3:42 PM
okay
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Anyone is open to it, but I don't wanna look like I'm promoting my server lmao
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seb it/they
I'm going to learn about conflict mediation and transformative and restorative justice stuff over the break
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For the revolution starts at home: Here is a solid outline for principles of an accountability program from "The Revolution Starts at Home" zine page 64: Taking risks: implementing grassroots community accountability strategies
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I had a pitch, I think every activist group needs an accountability program outline on hand
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My pitch is very triggering, so I'll dm it to ppl if they want it
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is it ok if i make a poster/flyer for OAT?
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I'm back into drawing and wanna do something for the project
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A-A-Ron (they/them)
I bought another workbook for like $40 and when I started reading it, it told me on the first page that I needed to read this one first lol. It's like, they should tell you that before you buy it. But, I just stuck with the zines and haven't looked for a PDF of the book. I'll check and see if I can find one tonight if nobody else can find one.
ty!
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/07/2023 6:56 PM
Go for it
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No one needs permission to work on oat stuff
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okay cool, i'll still post it for input
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Anyone wanna grab some stickers for tomorrow? Anyone in town tonight that will be there tomorrow?
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My partner will be there but probably not at 8, I gave them some stickers and put them in 20 sticker bags to hand to interested people
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I got like 800 more stickers if anyone wants to grab a bunch tonight or meet up tomorrow to grab a bunch, just dm me
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cade (he/him) 03/08/2023 1:33 PM
what was our policies on lawyers and their relationships w oat, if any?
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iirc, we didn’t really need the help but could use the contacts to be safe right?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/08/2023 2:44 PM
I dont really think theres a conglomerated plan for it
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The primary benefit of connecting with lawyers in my opinion is to make accessible legal transition resources for the trans community, and to possibly educate lawyers so that there is a larger pool of people willing to aid with legal transition (edited)
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Sam McKenzie 03/08/2023 2:59 PM
I'd love to help with any efforts to educate lawyers
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I'm graduating from the law school in May
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I started a spreadsheet of LGBTQ+ and allied lawyers in and around Columbia as a resource for queer/trans law students, but they could be useful contacts for us as well, maybe?
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cade (he/him) 03/08/2023 3:06 PM
i ask cause i met a great WREN lawyer at the statehouse today and feel like if we needed anything. she could be the one to go to. her name’s ashley crary lidow, she really knew how to get things done and was just badass tbh
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Sam McKenzie
I started a spreadsheet of LGBTQ+ and allied lawyers in and around Columbia as a resource for queer/trans law students, but they could be useful contacts for us as well, maybe?
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/08/2023 3:08 PM
Can you share this spreadsheet in the OAT drive?
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Sam McKenzie 03/08/2023 3:08 PM
Did y'all peep Colleen Condon at the statehouse as well today šŸ‘€
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As in THE Condon if Condon v. Haley, which gave us gay marriage in SC
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/08/2023 3:08 PM
These sound like great people to contact
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
Can you share this spreadsheet in the OAT drive?
Sam McKenzie 03/08/2023 3:08 PM
Yes indeed!
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/08/2023 3:08 PM
Yay!
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Thank you law person, i do not understand laws (edited)
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Hey y'all
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I got some news
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a collection of emails from 2019-2021 between dozens of anti-trans expert witnesses, US right-wing lawmakers and conservative legal groups
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Is this the same person that released the no fly list?
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This is a 60 mg file containing emails from a transphobic think tank that is responsible for all of the transphobic legislation that is currently being passed in the United States
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Is this the same person that released the no fly list?
Yes
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I would definitely download this Put it on a thumb drive Spread it around
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I'm not bold enough to role ping legislature research but I think they might want to see this as soon as possible
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From my own cursory search I don't see anything about SC specifically in here. Compare 290 hits for South Dakota to 0 for Carolina or South Carolina, or for SC as a whole word. That either means that the think tanks doing this are not directly involved in our state and our state is just following what others are doing, or the organizations working on our state are not in this dump.
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Probably the latter case because the emails mostly cover 2019 and 2020. I'd say, search for the names of people we know are doing things in our state, and look at the strategies being used in general. There has probably not been a major shift in their strategy in the past year or so. But also be warned that this is full of a lot of transphobic rhetoric
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Matt Cox he/him 03/08/2023 6:37 PM
Hey all, is anyone up for self defense this weekend? I need to get better about scheduling these
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/08/2023 6:52 PM
i will be out of town
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quick question...im not sure where exactly to ask this but my best friend is trying to begin the process of changing his name and just wants the simplistic rundown of the process. I think all of the long documents are a bit confusing to fully understand
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quick question...im not sure where exactly to ask this but my best friend is trying to begin the process of changing his name and just wants the simplistic rundown of the process. I think all of the long documents are a bit confusing to fully understand
For divorces it's just handled by a clerk at the courthouse getting a copy of the divorce decree and a paper of some kind showing the previous or desired name, then just go to all the different ID places with proof of the name change. Idk if it helps, but maybe something similar?
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I'm reading that for marriage and divorce, it's a simplified process, so this may not be helpful
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Matt Cox he/him 03/09/2023 7:14 AM
You have to pay a filing fee and submit an action. I’m trying to find which court you would do that in. The fee should be $150. You should be able to call the clerk of court and they can tell you what court to ask
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A South Carolina name change form is completed by individuals in pursuit of a legal name change so that they can petition their case before a judge. Aside from name...
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Matt Cox he/him 03/09/2023 7:15 AM
Oh family court, there it is
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Learned something new today, like holy shit that's so much to do
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Yeah..and really all he wants to do is change his deadname to his preferred. It’s so many things you have to check or do šŸ˜…
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Also what the fuck with the cost barrier. That's more than the cost of starting an LLC, getting access to restricted areas with a TWIC, getting a cdl with all your endorsements, getting a passport, getting your cwp, it's more than like everything just to submit the name change then you still gotta pay all the bullshit with each ID.
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Really do hate this country
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Matt Cox he/him 03/09/2023 7:21 AM
You don’t have to ban the [insert marginalized group of choice] just charge more than anyone can reasonably afford and pretend there’s no such thing as economic class. I give you, meritocracy!
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Sam McKenzie 03/09/2023 10:11 AM
Here's that directory of allied law firms btw: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iHDgeIVImDW0mK7ow7R-jdfLUY17RhmRHAEO1qvq37E/edit?usp=sharing The list on this doc is smaller than the actual amount because people have been unresponsive, but it's a growing list
Directory Name of Firm,Hiring Partner?,Email,Phone,Address Burnett-Shutt-McDaniel,Nekki Shutt,nshutt@burnettshutt.law,8039047912,912 LADY STREET, PO BOX 1929 COLUMBIA, SC 29202 Cromer, Babb, Porter, & Hicks,Kate Benoit | J. Paul Porter,kate@cbphlaw.com paul@...
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Also the "hiring partner" stuff is more geared towards law students looking to network lol pay no mind
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Sam McKenzie
Here's that directory of allied law firms btw: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iHDgeIVImDW0mK7ow7R-jdfLUY17RhmRHAEO1qvq37E/edit?usp=sharing The list on this doc is smaller than the actual amount because people have been unresponsive, but it's a growing list
@earthmxmafellowship I know you were looking for something like this
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Matt Cox he/him
Hey all, is anyone up for self defense this weekend? I need to get better about scheduling these
i’ve been working on my stamina lately and i think im up for something like this now
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Sam McKenzie
Here's that directory of allied law firms btw: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iHDgeIVImDW0mK7ow7R-jdfLUY17RhmRHAEO1qvq37E/edit?usp=sharing The list on this doc is smaller than the actual amount because people have been unresponsive, but it's a growing list
Matt Cox he/him 03/09/2023 1:30 PM
(My wife works at Burnette Shutt & McDaniel, nbd)
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Sam McKenzie 03/09/2023 3:54 PM
Ahh I love them! I'm friends with Nekki
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i’ve been working on my stamina lately and i think im up for something like this now
Matt Cox he/him 03/09/2023 6:36 PM
Awesome, we will go ahead and have one then. @seb it/they or @jacklyn can someone make an event?
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I was thinking we should do 11-1, one hour really is too short
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seb it/they 03/09/2023 6:39 PM
I can't currently I'm just getting back from being in the woods
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Matt Cox he/him 03/09/2023 6:40 PM
No rush, just didn't want it to slip my mind...again...
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Matt Cox he/him
Awesome, we will go ahead and have one then. @seb it/they or @jacklyn can someone make an event?
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Matt Cox he/him 03/09/2023 6:42 PM
Thank you!
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seb it/they 03/09/2023 8:15 PM
FREE MERCH: - if you’re trans - AND you live in TN, MS, SD, UT, AK, MS, or SC (US states that have anti-trans bills passed & signed into law) DM me your address and I will send you free Mx Wander merch ā¤ļø no need to say anything else, honor system here, just DM the name you want on the package & the address. - Mx Wander
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pickles- they/them (mel) 03/10/2023 3:59 PM
@everyone we’re working with queer mental health counselors at 864Pride to offer a FREE 2-day hybrid peer emotional support and mental health first aid training! https://discord.gg/7U7jATdT?event=1083856260534894752
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seb it/they 03/10/2023 4:00 PM
Do you mind if I cross post in announcements?
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pickles- they/them (mel) 03/10/2023 4:00 PM
Sure!
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/10/2023 4:40 PM
This sounds awesome!
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Matt Cox he/him 03/11/2023 10:41 AM
@everyone hey all self-defense is in 20 if you’re interested! If you’re worried about being late, come on in, we’ll be there till 1!
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Matt Cox he/him 03/11/2023 10:53 AM
Also, I’m running a tad late, so don’t worry I will be there
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im here
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oh lol
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Opinions on this? Thinking about putting as the Thursday evening study session in my group
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Sam McKenzie 03/11/2023 2:31 PM
I'm a huge Leslie Feinberg fan. Haven't had a chance to read trans liberation yet, but I've heard great things
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We'll be starting it next Thursday evening, spreading it out over 2 months, if you'd want to join in
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Caboose
Opinions on this? Thinking about putting as the Thursday evening study session in my group
add testojunkie too
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seb it/they 03/11/2023 3:54 PM
I read Testo junkie and it was inscrutable tbh
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cryborg
add testojunkie too
Looked it up, I'll skim through it and might add it in towards the end of the year or for next year's works
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seb it/they
I read Testo junkie and it was inscrutable tbh
Now i wanna read it more
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Looked it up, I'll skim through it and might add it in towards the end of the year or for next year's works
Okie dokie
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whats on the list rn? is it in the channel, i'll look...
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wait
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when/where
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Sure I'll add you to it, this is this week
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oh cool uwu
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Anyone wanna grab some of these stickers tonight or tomorrow?
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i will be around tomorrow probably
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i'll take a few
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anyone want to get first aid certified with me
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theres like a course online i think
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Nico (she/her) 03/11/2023 6:35 PM
Yes
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or this?
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i need to
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Find First Aid Classes and Training in Columbia. The Red Cross First Aid program gives you the skills to help in an emergency situation.
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ah here
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if i'm understanding this you take the online class first then go to an in person?
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Anyone wanna grab some of these stickers tonight or tomorrow?
I would love some
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I appreciate the sympathetic author providing accurate information
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Where do we sign up for the meeting
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it's in the events
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okie dokie
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ColorfulKnoll 03/14/2023 2:45 PM
The current surpreme court is werid on trans rights
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Hopefully they rule in favor of trans rights
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They passed on hearing a transgender bathroom case awhile ago which was actually a win on trans' rights. Alito and Thomas are the two judges most opposed to trans rights (edited)
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Judges like Roberts have ruled in favor for trans' rights so it's entirely possible for it to still be in favor but it's a 50/50 chance
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the only hope is for Gorsuch to come through again like he did in Bostock
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ColorfulKnoll 03/14/2023 2:59 PM
He's a big if, it entirely depends if he recognizes that trans people existed when the Civil rights act was passed and should be protected on it
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oh no
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As the Court held in Cleburne v. Cleburne Living Center (1985), groups that have experienced a ā€œhistory of purposeful unequal treatmentā€ which ā€œfrequently bears no relation to ability to perform or contribute to society,ā€ should enjoy enhanced protections against discrimination. These enhanced protections are known as ā€œheightened scrutiny.ā€
this passage from the article does present an alternative way he could rule in favor of trans people, how stringent is he about the originalist bullshit?
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ColorfulKnoll 03/14/2023 3:06 PM
Pretty harsh honestly at least vocally
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Tho I'm not sure how his rulings compare to his words (edited)
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Looking it up tho it seems he has some opponents who say he isn't originalist so he can't be too radical if the radicals aren't on his side
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Judicial precedents seems to be on our side as well tho so hopefully they recognize that tho this surpeme court isn't really known for that (edited)
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Can anyone who works at or does drag at capital club, PTs 1109, The Woody on Main, WEs on Meeting DM me? And anyone on the Columbia Pride Council? (edited)
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seb it/they 03/15/2023 8:56 AM
Good luck to everyone going to the state house today
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/15/2023 9:09 AM
i can’t find the education subcommittee building on gervais
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oh
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it’s grösser
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i’m on my way to the statehouse we just got confused and headed to a different building
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seb it/they 03/15/2023 9:13 AM
is anyone there rn who can find anabelle?
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@AthenaTheCommie (she/they) @jacklyn @Bee(she/they/fae/it) (pinging the people who said they were interested)
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i'll fix the building name šŸ’œ
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it might actually be a different building? I know somone linked it in #legislature-and-representatives
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers)
it’s grösser
seb it/they 03/15/2023 9:20 AM
okay so it's definately gresset, and not grosser
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pickles- they/them (mel) 03/15/2023 9:20 AM
308 Gressette
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@AthenaTheCommie (she/they) @jacklyn @Bee(she/they/fae/it) (pinging the people who said they were interested)
i may be able to come later in the day depending on how long it runs
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/15/2023 9:33 AM
okay i’m parked and nearby i’m gonna head to the room
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/15/2023 9:42 AM
the person in the front said they’re not accepting any more people because they’re at capacity @AthenaTheCommie (she/they) @jacklyn
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we’re watching it from the lobby on the tv
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pickles- they/them (mel) 03/15/2023 9:42 AM
I’m on the hall
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Come on! People are still showing up
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/15/2023 9:43 AM
do we take the elevator?
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i regurgitated the message, they’ve told us we aren’t allowed to go in and that we have to wait in the lobby. they’ve said if someone comes down one of us can go up
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he’s saying the third floor is at capacity
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pickles- they/them (mel) 03/15/2023 9:48 AM
Damn
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If anyone wants to speak, I can come down stairs
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Not guaranteed you’ll be able to tho
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/15/2023 9:49 AM
yeah. i’m watching from downstairs. i’m not sure i’d want to remove you from the room
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pickles- they/them (mel) 03/15/2023 9:52 AM
A couple of people have left the room
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the person in the front said they’re not accepting any more people because they’re at capacity @AthenaTheCommie (she/they) @jacklyn
thanks for the heads up
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Bee(she/they/fae/it) 03/15/2023 9:55 AM
there's also some crowding in the lobby
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Realised I must have passed by you all in the lobby, but thank you so much for showing up. I’m in a Fish, Game, and Forestry meeting on 2 right now, but it sounds like you have it covered šŸ’•
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cade (he/him) 03/15/2023 10:03 AM
yeah as someone who can’t, thank y’all for being there! give ā€˜em hell
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Bee(she/they/fae/it) 03/15/2023 10:04 AM
we'll do what we can
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Realised I must have passed by you all in the lobby, but thank you so much for showing up. I’m in a Fish, Game, and Forestry meeting on 2 right now, but it sounds like you have it covered šŸ’•
Hayden (he/they) 03/15/2023 10:05 AM
Committee on turning the frogs gay
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Realised I must have passed by you all in the lobby, but thank you so much for showing up. I’m in a Fish, Game, and Forestry meeting on 2 right now, but it sounds like you have it covered šŸ’•
A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/15/2023 10:05 AM
What's that about?
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A-A-Ron (they/them)
What's that about?
Just some regulatory stuff on Sunday hunting and wildlife management areas, nothing too exciting There were like six tree cops here earlier. idk why they need guns, but they had them. For the cocaine bears, probably
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Hayden (he/they) 03/15/2023 10:09 AM
DNR is just the worst (edited)
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I didn't realize you couldn't hunt on the lord's day
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My prof canceled class
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Everyone got excited
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And then he told us he's posting a lecture online
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And that it's mandatory
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Freaking evil
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/15/2023 10:15 AM
Wtf
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Just some regulatory stuff on Sunday hunting and wildlife management areas, nothing too exciting There were like six tree cops here earlier. idk why they need guns, but they had them. For the cocaine bears, probably
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And that does sound exciting idk what you mean
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Hayden (he/they)
I didn't realize you couldn't hunt on the lord's day
The new regulations are about allowing Sunday hunting in a few of their wildlife management zones from mid October to the end of January. But it also comes with their request for 48 more officers to make it 350 forest cops out there ;-; One Senator brought up the need to rest/go to church on Sunday though, which is a fun insight into the mindset of state government officials.
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cade (he/him) 03/15/2023 10:46 AM
conservatives love citing the constitution when it works for them but keep crossing that separation of church and state line with every other breath šŸ’€
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Oh, and I guess warning about turkey: get it while you can, yields are declining all across the South and it’s getting worse at an apparently exponential rate (SC alone is down 40% since peak years in the early 00s)
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/15/2023 11:07 AM
The Left's War on Thanksgiving smh
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/15/2023 1:35 PM
Just sharing, saw on Facebook. First image: Bash Back 2023: INTL Convergence, Chicago, Sept 8-11. Second: Fifteen years from the original gathering Chicago will host the 2023 Bash Back Convergence from September 8th-11th. Comrades, old and new, are invited to discuss what's still vital in the past and what's needed in the present. In keeping with tradition, the convergence will include presentations, workshops, distro tables, parties and assorted other opportunities to make trouble. If you are interested in attending, especially if you'd like to propose programming or tabling please email us and introduce yourself at bashback2023@riseup.net Please send by June. Check bashback.info for updates. (edited)
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/15/2023 1:57 PM
oooo
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riseup.net is cool
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seb it/they 03/15/2023 5:04 PM
what was the outcome of the bill stuff today?
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what was the outcome of the bill stuff today?
From what I heard, there was no vote and there will be another public comment period sometime this week or next
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/15/2023 10:13 PM
it was honestly really dispiriting to see so many moms testify
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hopefully next time i can, get in the room
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emma and i are very sad that we live in a capitalist dystopia and we are coping by listening to communist propaganda /gen
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Yeah I really wish there were more parents of trans kids in here
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That would be really meaningful to have them as part of our community
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(ig what I'm saying is shout out to Matt Coxx for being a cool dad)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/15/2023 10:31 PM
matt is very cool
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I didn’t know matt was a parent
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thats cool uwu
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I’m working on some poster sketches today and will post for feedback later
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if anyone wants to give their perspective or critique please feel welcome to (edited)
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seb it/they 03/16/2023 7:54 PM
Both chambers of Kentucky’s legislature have approved a bill that bans gender-affirming care for minors, among several other provisions targeting trans youth. Shouts of ā€œyou’re all pieces of shitā€ and ā€œyour god will not forgive youā€ could be heard after the vote.
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tackysapphic 03/16/2023 10:56 PM
hey everyone. im new to mutual aid and stuff but i really admire what yall have set up and i wanna help out. where should i start what should i know?
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#mutual-aid has some pinned resources that could be useful
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tackysapphic 03/16/2023 10:57 PM
sick
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hey everyone. im new to mutual aid and stuff but i really admire what yall have set up and i wanna help out. where should i start what should i know?
we have mutual aid meetings at 6:30 on mondays, those would be a great time to come get to know us, learn about ongoing projects, and contribute :)
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tackysapphic 03/16/2023 11:16 PM
oh awesome! i saw some mentions of past meetings but couldnt figure out when/how often yall do them. i'll try and be at the next one :)
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sounds good! no homework required of course but we do have notes from previous meetings in the channel if you want some idea of what to expect
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tackysapphic 03/16/2023 11:18 PM
oo yeah i'll definitely look at those lol im completely in new territory here
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that's actually one of the reasons we started doing weekly meetings, so we had something we could point people who wanted to get involved towards and collaborate easily
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tackysapphic 03/16/2023 11:20 PM
oh nice!
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@tackysapphic hey broski whats up
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tackysapphic 03/17/2023 1:27 AM
oh shit hey man
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whats uppp
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tackysapphic 03/17/2023 1:28 AM
yknow just getting into mutual aid n whatnot. had no idea you were part of this that’s sick man
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im more involved in columbia dsa and sc iww but yeah OAT is fucking awesome dude
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if your interested in doing other mutual aid stuff too, theres a thing called CPP or columbia peoples program (i think) and they make sandwiches and related stuff and distribute them
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theres a bunch of people here who are involved in it
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Ima be in GA this weekend, anyone in COLA that I can hand off some stickers to? Leaving tomorrow AM, so can hand off today (edited)
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Matt Cox he/him 03/18/2023 9:39 AM
@everyone my wife is an employment attorney in Columbia, and would like to volunteer some time to the group as a know your rights type seminar on disability discrimination and accommodation. Would anyone be interested in attending?
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seb it/they 03/18/2023 9:40 AM
I would be interested
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fun ways to refer to cops if you wanna get creative
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Many police-related slang terms exist for police officers. These terms are rarely used by the police themselves. Police services also have their own internal slang and jargon; some of it is relatively widespread geographically and some very localized.
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Los pacos
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Cuntstable did it for me
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its a good one
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/18/2023 11:35 AM
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Me-ow, kitty cat
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That name is too fun
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Arnold Karr 03/18/2023 4:46 PM
Thanks to Olivia, Hayden, and Jacklyn for all the help with moving today. You're all rock stars!
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https://twitter.com/ettingermentum/status/1637160856566870016 hey, this is a decent article to show to anyone who has gotten involved more recently or hasn't been keeping track of this for particularly long. ive been trying to keep track of trans legislative issues since at least 2017 and it seems fairly accurate in terms of its historical account.
Ettingermentum Newsletter: The Modern Electoral History of Transphobia https://t.co/elE1tf0Ch9
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Matt Cox he/him
@everyone my wife is an employment attorney in Columbia, and would like to volunteer some time to the group as a know your rights type seminar on disability discrimination and accommodation. Would anyone be interested in attending?
Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/18/2023 7:59 PM
yes!!!
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Matt Cox he/him
@everyone my wife is an employment attorney in Columbia, and would like to volunteer some time to the group as a know your rights type seminar on disability discrimination and accommodation. Would anyone be interested in attending?
Arnold Karr 03/18/2023 8:24 PM
I would.
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Anyone else following this trump arrest stuff?
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Stellar BoBellar 03/19/2023 4:20 AM
Loosely lol.
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I don't think he's actually ever going to see the inside of a cell.
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But I absolutely wouldn't mind being surprised.
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Absolutely
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I just wanna see the Trumpsters rise up to defend their big wet president
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Stellar BoBellar 03/19/2023 4:29 AM
On one hand, I kinda feel bad for anyone who still supports trump because they do just live in an alternate reality and it's just an actual cult at this point, but on the other hand a lot of them are just bad people who aren't brainwashed but know exactly how they're hurting people and they take joy in it.
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So whatever makes them seeth doesn't make me cry lol
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I'd love to see something happen to Ron Desantis though.
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Bad dude
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On one hand, I kinda feel bad for anyone who still supports trump because they do just live in an alternate reality and it's just an actual cult at this point, but on the other hand a lot of them are just bad people who aren't brainwashed but know exactly how they're hurting people and they take joy in it.
Arnold Karr 03/19/2023 4:36 AM
Maybe desantis will wind up shooting himself in a bunker: there's precedent.
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Liberals will brag about the system "working" when Trump gets some kinda punishment. "As common to all historical royalty, those in power generally make the rules, not follow them. Of course, to ensure the appearance of democracy, examples must be made and every now and again a very powerful, rich figure will be prosecuted, with great fanfare, in lieu of addressing the modern epidemic of corporate crime." - "The New Human Rights Movement" by Peter Joseph page 151
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@Sam McKenzie forgive me if you’ve answered this one before but what type of law are you studying?
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Sam McKenzie 03/19/2023 7:24 PM
@regan-they I focus primarily on employment and labor law, and my specific interest is employment discrimination law!
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oh neat, im extremely pre law but I’m interested in environment law studies
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Sam McKenzie 03/19/2023 7:30 PM
Oh, are you thinking about USC? It's a good school for that, Professor Eagle is really highly respected in that field and a great prof. I took his coastal law class
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ooh neat, thank you for the suggestion
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how are u folx doing tonight?
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robin (they/it) 03/19/2023 10:11 PM
my sibling went on a date today and now i get to gossip with all his friends about it . hehe .
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uwu niice
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robin (they/it) 03/19/2023 10:13 PM
he runs in a similar circle to me but kinda on another side of it so really its an excuse to talk to and keep in touch with some friends who i dont talk too often
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Yo, a 16 year old boy reached out to me on tiktok because of an oats thing I shared and asked me how to deal with something at school about being trans and their trans friend and I'm clueless. Can someone help in a mentorship aspect? DM me? (edited)
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cade (he/him) 03/20/2023 6:32 AM
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idk if this would be helpful; but a professor was handing these out at the last meet me at the statehouse event?
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seb it/they 03/20/2023 6:44 AM
Huh I wonder if someone could reach out to the group and get them in here
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@cade (he/him) are you willing to do this
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cade (he/him) 03/20/2023 6:53 AM
oh yeah sure, the other side looks like it’s advertising a group for parents of trans youth; but i haven’t followed either link so it could be a joint effort of the same one group
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i can definitely look into getting them to join the server later today tho
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morning all
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Max (they/it) 03/20/2023 8:55 AM
morning
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gm yall
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šŸ’€šŸŽ€ ā˜†š’œš’¹š‘’š“š’¶š’¾š“ƒš‘’šŸ„šŸ§šŸ©ā˜† š”°š”„š”¢/š”„š”¢š”Æ šŸŽ€šŸ’€ 03/20/2023 8:58 AM
Good morning
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/20/2023 8:58 AM
Morning!
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It’s morning?
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seb it/they 03/20/2023 9:05 AM
Unfortunately
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I was afraid this would happen
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cade (he/him) 03/20/2023 10:13 AM
an email has been sent to TAAGG (the org that runs the groups for trans youth and their parents)
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George (He/They) 03/20/2023 3:49 PM
TW Transphobia; To those around USC Columbia: The school’s Turning Point USA chapter is doing a talk about ā€œTransgenderismā€ on March 22nd at 7:15PM in Russel House 205. (edited)
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ew TPUSA…. (edited)
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seb it/they 03/20/2023 3:50 PM
can you remove the vomit emoji?
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it's against the rules to use that emoji without a trigger warning
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of course! my bad, i was unaware
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makes total sense
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seb it/they 03/20/2023 3:52 PM
yeah you're good šŸ’œ I agree that TPUSA is gross as fuck (edited)
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seb it/they
it's against the rules to use that emoji without a trigger warning
James Harley 03/20/2023 3:52 PM
Is the emoji for a warning of something gross or unsettling?
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well i know that what that emoji depicts can be a pretty immediate and visceral trigger for some people
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seb it/they 03/20/2023 3:53 PM
no you just shouldn't use that emoji unless its like this tw emto🤮
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it can trigger gagging/vomiting for some people
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/20/2023 3:53 PM
The list is pinned in #public-moderation for those who have not seen it yet
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just didn’t give it enough though before sending
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James Harley 03/20/2023 3:54 PM
Okay
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how do you do the censor thing?
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seb it/they 03/20/2023 3:54 PM
I think we should try to do something against this
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for future reference
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seb it/they 03/20/2023 3:54 PM
(the meeting)
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Oh you do ||text|| (edited)
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Sorry lol I used the wrong escape character
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It's the pipes
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schweet šŸ‘
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seb it/they
I think we should try to do something against this
seb it/they 03/20/2023 3:56 PM
But yeah this isn't acceptable on USC campus
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And doesn't go with the like diversity code or whatever
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George (He/They)
TW Transphobia; To those around USC Columbia: The school’s Turning Point USA chapter is doing a talk about ā€œTransgenderismā€ on March 22nd at 7:15PM in Russel House 205. (edited)
As the former mascot cocky for USC just know cocky very much despises this
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seb it/they 03/20/2023 3:58 PM
I'm going to be in a lab until 6
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But after that and at the mutual aid meeting we can plan a response
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i might be on campus for work that day
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seb it/they
And doesn't go with the like diversity code or whatever
Unfortunately, they don’t care about that and it would lose out against first amendment stuff if it came to it Yee haw ;-;
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tackysapphic 03/20/2023 4:19 PM
I go to USC Cola, this is absolutely disgusting :(
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We should plan a response.
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seb it/they 03/20/2023 4:20 PM
If you want to be involved in planning a response we're going to do so at the mutual aid meeting at 6:30
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so i thought adding some general information from the site as copy and gathered what i'm gonna add in a word doc, anyone have suggestions? I also found a zine program that i'm going to mess with. Link here: https://alienmelon.itch.io/electric-zine-maker
The Electric Zine Maker (āš”ļøšŸ“āœ‚ļø) is a printshop and art tool for making zines.
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seb it/they
If you want to be involved in planning a response we're going to do so at the mutual aid meeting at 6:30
seb it/they 03/20/2023 5:25 PM
I might be a few minutes late my lab is going over ;-;
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Click to see attachment šŸ–¼ļø
Basically i'm gonna rework the main info from the site to make it fit the context of the booklet
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seb it/they
If you want to be involved in planning a response we're going to do so at the mutual aid meeting at 6:30
George (He/They) 03/20/2023 5:52 PM
Where will the mutual aid meeting be?
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George (He/They)
Where will the mutual aid meeting be?
in the meetings voice chat
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George (He/They) 03/20/2023 5:54 PM
Cool cool
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just messing around
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its got some neat tools and saves
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do the symbols say anything? looks like windings
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it is i'm just seeing what it can do
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seb it/they
If you want to be involved in planning a response we're going to do so at the mutual aid meeting at 6:30
robin (they/it) 03/20/2023 6:35 PM
this meeting is now
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does anyone have the april 8th statehouse graphic
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this is the kind of look i'm doing, inside will be more simple of course but here's a cover i just made (edited)
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going to treatment now, gonna sketch the panels and work on them when im back home
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lmao i made a typo (edited)
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will fix that too 😭
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lmao i made a typo (edited)
Didn’t even notice it 🤣
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Hayden (he/they) 03/21/2023 10:57 AM
Missouri’s Republican attorney general sidesteps GOP-led state senate as it struggles to pass legislation
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gonna be in hangout making oat buttons cause bored (edited)
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Matt Cox he/him 03/22/2023 9:08 AM
Good luck to everyone going to the thing today. If I did not have to coach soccer, I would be right there. Stay safe, stay strong!
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seb it/they 03/22/2023 9:09 AM
hope soccer goes well
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Hey good morning everyone. I'll be attending CofC in the fall, who in here is also at CofC so I know who to get with in August?
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seb it/they 03/22/2023 9:10 AM
@CofCTSA
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/22/2023 9:12 AM
hihi!
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i'm at cofc
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comrade kalia (she/her) 03/22/2023 9:13 AM
im an alumna and in the area
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/22/2023 9:13 AM
ye! kalia is cool
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comrade kalia (she/her) 03/22/2023 9:14 AM
allegedly
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/22/2023 9:14 AM
emma (@Emma) is also trans and cool. there's like, two trans student orgs (t time, tsa) and one general queer org (prisim)
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seb it/they 03/22/2023 9:15 AM
does prisim have members in here that aren't in the other orgs?
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/22/2023 9:15 AM
i don't think so? but maybe
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seb it/they 03/22/2023 9:15 AM
if they want an org role just lmk
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/22/2023 9:15 AM
ye
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@kennedy runs both t-time and tsa and she is cool
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dms are open if yall want to chat with me
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(metaphorically at least, i forget if they're open in the mechanical sense but if not just send a req)
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Sam McKenzie 03/22/2023 7:34 PM
My partner had an awful day, so I stayed back bc we didn't have the spoons today. I heard that queer folx flooded the trans talk today, though. I hope y'all managed to drown them out! How'd it go?
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It’s ongoing, they’re outnumbered by a lot
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Sam McKenzie 03/22/2023 7:39 PM
GOOD!
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Work was excruciating today
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So many pokestops lmao
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Spoke to The State (newspaper) about OAT, talked about our involvement in legislative action and drag defense and community defense more broadly, as well as the context of the Tpusa transgenderism event (edited)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/22/2023 9:27 PM
home safe : )
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Spoke to The State (newspaper) about OAT, talked about our involvement in legislative action and drag defense and community defense more broadly, as well as the context of the Tpusa transgenderism event (edited)
Sorry I interrupted, I just really wanted to leave lmao
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seb it/they 03/22/2023 9:52 PM
I also talked to the state
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And will be getting future contact info
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Nice
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Hayden (he/they) 03/22/2023 9:58 PM
Liv and I have our contact to the p&c journalist as well
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Spoke to The State (newspaper) about OAT, talked about our involvement in legislative action and drag defense and community defense more broadly, as well as the context of the Tpusa transgenderism event (edited)
Sam McKenzie 03/22/2023 10:11 PM
Oh this reminds me, I spoke to a journalist at the Lexington Chronicle about a week ago about the drag bills, and I also mentioned the trasnphobic bills and listed a few orgs who organize to fight bills like that, including OAT
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Does anyone in here professionally print banners
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We should have an oat banner printed for events and such
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/22/2023 11:17 PM
uh
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gimme a sec
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theres a literal print shop in here somewhere
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I will be starting this project in earnest at a near future time that isn’t this one I’m currently too eepy
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But a big OAT banner (or multiple big OAT banners
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Would be so slay
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tackysapphic 03/23/2023 10:27 AM
good god
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cade (he/him) 03/23/2023 10:29 AM
i hate that and them
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how’s he gonna say ā€œy’all are big fans of the first amendment aren’t youā€ after asking y’all to be quiet 😭 conservatives are never gonna understand that the amendment doesn’t just mean you can say whatever and be 100% heard for it are they
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We rly made them look like a bunch of bumbling dorks
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Big ups to Roxy, world’s baseline for woman
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Most biological woman in existence
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I’ve never seen so much biology, it was overwhelming
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Jesus fuck
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The event was positively splooging with biology
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Oh god not splooging I really wish it wouldn’t šŸ’€
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/23/2023 10:50 AM
They've all been watching too much Ben Shapiro, that one dude sounds exactly like him
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Precisely
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Aaron you would’ve loved it
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He’s apart of the yelling=funny school of comedy
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robin (they/it) 03/23/2023 10:51 AM
imagine watching ben shapiro and being like that is who i want to be
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Max (they/it) 03/23/2023 10:51 AM
there was a point where Dylan started yelling the names of logical fallacies from the back of the room as if anyone actually cares about that outside of reddit
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Hayden (he/they) 03/23/2023 10:51 AM
Seeing that dork upfront turn around quick as hell and go "that'sadifferentargument" was surreal
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I will say at least the republican guy at the end was somewhat of a good sport
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/23/2023 10:55 AM
Someone already said it, but how do they think that video makes them look good?
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And why were they talking about Bill fucking Clinton?
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Hayden (he/they) 03/23/2023 10:55 AM
Is there a way to save the video in case they delete?
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robin (they/it) 03/23/2023 10:55 AM
they were saying donald j trump wasnt the only pedophile or something
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/23/2023 10:56 AM
Let's just continue our friendly interactions and ask them for it? They wouldn't have a problem with it I'm sure
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A-A-Ron (they/them)
Someone already said it, but how do they think that video makes them look good?
They picked out the moments where we were the loudest (and therefore wrong?) and I guess they featured what they thought were their best points
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All in all, big win
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They mentioned they’ll be having an abortion talk soon
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Hayden (he/they) 03/23/2023 10:58 AM
Personally I doubt that will happen lol
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After that very poor showing
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I think they may have been scared off from public talks
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Hayden (he/they) 03/23/2023 10:58 AM
Event title might as well be: watch Dillion have a heart attack live on stage
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robin (they/it) 03/23/2023 11:00 AM
i don't understand what the meeting would have been if we didnt show up. "what is a woman? [whatever bs answer they have] everyone agree ? yes. "
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/23/2023 11:00 AM
"go tell Aliyah Boston that she can't have an abortion."
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I imagine it would’ve been a 1984 style hate session
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Which would rly suck and im glad we kept it from happening
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// turning point posted this, faces shown https://www.instagram.com/reel/CqInVWbPtUd/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
James Harley 03/23/2023 11:12 AM
See this is why when we do this we have not let our emotions get to us, we all knew what they were doing with this meeting, and we came to voice our opinions, they were kind enough to give us a chance to speak, but they were still waiting to get a reaction they look for in us. We’re just lucky they weren’t hostile towards us.
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To be frank, They want to kill us no matter how we present ourselves.
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There's not really a point to being respectful to fascists.
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See this is why when we do this we have not let our emotions get to us, we all knew what they were doing with this meeting, and we came to voice our opinions, they were kind enough to give us a chance to speak, but they were still waiting to get a reaction they look for in us. We’re just lucky they weren’t hostile towards us.
one of their leadership called us a groomer before the meeting even started lol (edited)
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also them letting us be there wasn't "kind" it was something that they are forced to do because of the university
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i doubt if it was up to them/there was a different context that we would be allowed in that room
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one of their leadership called us a groomer before the meeting even started lol (edited)
robin (they/it) 03/23/2023 11:15 AM
and repeatedly throughout the meeting
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they were also ableist towards mentally ill people
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and there was a thread of tangible white supremacy under everything they said
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both of which are things that impact every single member of our group
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Max (they/it) 03/23/2023 11:17 AM
they're also a white supremacist group that's pushing genocidal ideas even if they try to be kind about it
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also the antisemitism
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To be frank, They want to kill us no matter how we present ourselves.
James Harley 03/23/2023 11:19 AM
I get that, but there doing this and trying to get reactions out of us to make us look bad, which is why I said to not let our emotions get to us. We had a safe space to go to if things went wrong for any of us.
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Oof bringing what Judaism had to say on gender and them talking on it had me equally interested and scared
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I get that, but there doing this and trying to get reactions out of us to make us look bad, which is why I said to not let our emotions get to us. We had a safe space to go to if things went wrong for any of us.
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/23/2023 11:20 AM
at the end of the day, this boils down entirely to crowd dynamics
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,,, why did they bring thst up
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/23/2023 11:20 AM
it is functionally impossible to control a crowd of 80 (rightfully) angry people
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,,, why did they bring thst up
I think it was after religion in general was brought up
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inch resting
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/23/2023 11:21 AM
much as they like to pretend that our anger is a symptom of our raging liberal radicalism, for a crowd, this was a pretty tame event overall
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also apparently anything written after jesus died is no longer canon for christianity
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(google when the bible was written yall)
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Getting the talmud and Torah mixed up was kind of disappointing, I don't remember if it was one of ours or not, but googling mid meeting on a religion you don't know isn't ideal in my opinion, if that's okay to say
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sage 🌿 03/23/2023 11:24 AM
Yeah those are two different things (I hope its alright im cutting in a little, cause i am converting to judaism currently)
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James Harley 03/23/2023 11:26 AM
All I’ll say is I’m glad this was still peaceful. We voiced our opinions and experiences, and we made it out unharmed. They may do something like this again, but we’ll at least be ready. Good job to everyone yesterday.
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Yeah those are two different things (I hope its alright im cutting in a little, cause i am converting to judaism currently)
Absolutely lol, I'm not a religious person, I just grew up with religiously more devoted family members. You have as much right as anyone to speak
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lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 03/23/2023 12:01 PM
Hi, since @seb it/they has a student box UPS won’t deliver to them. I’ve got the package with clothes, makeup, and accessories ready to go, I just need the address of someone near the clothes swap to mail it to. UPS is the only option to get it there tomorrow that won’t cost like $60
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Dm I’ll give an address you can ship to
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Cyprus
Dm I’ll give an address you can ship to
lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 03/23/2023 12:01 PM
Thank you so much!!
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Dm I’ll give an address you can ship to
lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 03/23/2023 12:03 PM
DM’d btw
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Getting the talmud and Torah mixed up was kind of disappointing, I don't remember if it was one of ours or not, but googling mid meeting on a religion you don't know isn't ideal in my opinion, if that's okay to say
It was one of ours. I always hate it when people I agree with make rhetorical mistakes
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Aw shucks (edited)
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George (He/They) 03/23/2023 12:22 PM
Yeah, it happens
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Nova šŸ’• 03/23/2023 12:31 PM
Is there a protest for the 31st
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There is in Greenville
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Nova šŸ’• 03/23/2023 12:31 PM
Do you have the details?
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Your voice can change the world! Come out March 31st to support on this years Trans Day of Visibility! We will be peacefully rallying in Greenville SC from 3pm to 5pm. We’ll have snacks, water, and masks for everyone. Feel free to reach out for more info.
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purple could you make this into an annoucement/event
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and is there any way we can get into contact with that account?
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Oat account could probably DM them and ask what kind of support is needed, repost their graphics etc
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yeah for sure, i'll make an announcement now
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Event posted
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Nova šŸ’• 03/23/2023 12:39 PM
Do you have an address for blatt campus for the clothing thing?
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Do you have an address for blatt campus for the clothing thing?
It’s 1300 Wheat St, Columbia, SC It’s a PÉ center and the location is the field right next to it
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Matt Cox he/him 03/23/2023 12:42 PM
Yeah what do Judeo-Christian values have to do with Judaism silly wokes
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Really wish I could have been there
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This weekend I’m doing the self-defense class, and I hope everyone will be there! I’m cutting it a little short because we have a get together with the SC IWW. Hope to see y’all at the park!
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are there any details you want me to promote about the self defense event matt?
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Matt Cox he/him 03/23/2023 12:48 PM
I don’t think so. I’m not sure what we will be doing as of now, but I’m going to go back over what we’ve done and think about other techniques. If it happens to be all new folk, or majority new folk, we will go over the things we have already gone over.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/23/2023 12:49 PM
Keep an eye on the event too
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Currently no one has rsvp’d, i dont want to waste your time
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i think it's because the cltohing shop is at the same time
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*swap
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cade (he/him) 03/23/2023 12:51 PM
someone under the tpusa video just commenting ā€œ@charliekirk thoughts?ā€ 😭😭😭
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Matt Cox he/him 03/23/2023 12:51 PM
Oh man, I didn’t realize I was conflicting with another event. We can think about moving it after this one.
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the clothing swap is a one off event
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we might do another one at some point, but as of right now it's not reoccuring
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someone under the tpusa video just commenting ā€œ@charliekirk thoughts?ā€ 😭😭😭
Matt Cox he/him 03/23/2023 12:52 PM
Lol, Charlie Kirk and ā€œthoughtsā€
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cade (he/him) 03/23/2023 12:52 PM
never been in the same sentence before
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Matt Cox he/him 03/23/2023 12:52 PM
OK, no worries. I’m happy to keep the time slot open if people are still interested, but just have trouble making it to all of the meetings.
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Yeah no problem
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Nova šŸ’• 03/23/2023 5:15 PM
I plan on driving down from Greenville with my gf for the clothing thing this Saturday
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seb it/they 03/23/2023 5:16 PM
Excited to see you there :)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/23/2023 5:22 PM
i gotta get my donations organized lol
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Lol same, I need to go through my racks
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Hayden (he/they) 03/23/2023 5:36 PM
I doing some loads of laundry
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Camryn Aisling 03/23/2023 10:46 PM
I already don't like that title
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Errr, headline
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cade (he/him) 03/23/2023 10:49 PM
definitely favors done for tpusa in there, and an almost too neutral pov; but i like the last few parts from seb and cyprus. really shows why y’all turned out and showed up the way you did (edited)
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attributing peer-reviewed studies to both sides šŸ’€
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They made it seem too much like an even debate than a mostly one-sided beat down and the numbers on each side
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cade (he/him) 03/23/2023 10:52 PM
imo it’s not a bad look for our side; but not as accurate as it could be
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attributing peer-reviewed studies to both sides šŸ’€
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/23/2023 10:52 PM
bitches those were my studies, they didnt cite a single one
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cade (he/him) 03/23/2023 10:53 PM
ā€œif mike tyson transitioned and fought girls he’d kill them!!!ā€
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he already damn near killed the men he fought like???
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wait what??????
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cade (he/him) 03/23/2023 10:55 PM
mike tyson is just a very violent man 😭 literally famous for biting a man’s ear off
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not to mention his out of the ring behavior too, my point is even their cited part is a shit argument
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i wonder what ear tastes like
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cade (he/him) 03/23/2023 10:56 PM
oh
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It tastes like chicken Especially if it’s a chicken’s ear
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Camryn Aisling 03/23/2023 11:00 PM
It tastes like corn
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
bitches those were my studies, they didnt cite a single one
Ofc they didn’t cite anything. Facts apparently don’t care about your feelings, and feelings were all they had
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Arnold Karr 03/24/2023 2:37 AM
Nothing about how TPUSA is to the MAGA right what Hitler Youth was to the Third Reich.
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The State should be renamed The Status Quo. They've never taken a stand for human rights before it was fashionable.
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I have to wonder if the person who wrote this article was even present or had any idea what was going on, what the fuck
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Arnold Karr 03/24/2023 2:42 AM
They cited individual protesters who were there, so TSQ had a presence, though not a journalistic one.
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I mean I know they were there, I saw ppl taking interviews, but the narration around what was said was rediculous.
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Arnold Karr 03/24/2023 2:45 AM
Keep it bland is TSQ's M.O.
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I mean not even it being bland, for instance they said both sides came armed with facts, only quoted TP on what is a woman, reduced the legislation discussion to talking about gender affirming surgeries for minors, and wrote "facts don't care about your feelings" without saying it was a trans person citing a peer reviewed study making it sound like a dig at trans people instead of calling out the people with 0 facts.
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The person there wrote the article in an offhand way to insult OAT (edited)
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They changed facts to fit their own narrative, the journalist is a pile of dogshit (edited)
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Arnold Karr 03/24/2023 2:52 AM
100%
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where is the clothing swap? blatt field still?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/24/2023 8:14 AM
Yes
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Matt Cox he/him 03/24/2023 10:26 AM
@everyone Hey all, due to circumstances beyond control we are nixing the self defense class. Cancel culture strikes again! Seriously, no class this week.
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Arnold Karr
Nothing about how TPUSA is to the MAGA right what Hitler Youth was to the Third Reich.
Lynnie (she/her) 03/24/2023 11:15 AM
I had an editor from Greenville News kick back an op-ed one time, saying "Everyone compares politicians they don't like to Nazis. You can't do that." Frustrating that they refuse to see what is in front of us.
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robin (they/it) 03/24/2023 11:16 AM
its almost like a lot of politicians are nazis
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You most certainly can do that if you can cite the specific similarities. For instance: Hitler loved Bratwurst. Arnold loves Bratwurst. Arnold has the same opinion of Bratwurst as Hitler.
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Matt Cox he/him
@everyone Hey all, due to circumstances beyond control we are nixing the self defense class. Cancel culture strikes again! Seriously, no class this week.
James Harley 03/24/2023 11:32 AM
Goddamn it Cancel Culture!
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scary ass question with whats happening I clicked decline to answer anyway fuck that
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That’s cute. Look at the government ā€œtryingā€
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Arnold Karr
You most certainly can do that if you can cite the specific similarities. For instance: Hitler loved Bratwurst. Arnold loves Bratwurst. Arnold has the same opinion of Bratwurst as Hitler.
Woopsiedoodle, cancelled
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That’s cute. Look at the government ā€œtryingā€
The scarry thing is that we don't know if it's inclusive, it could be compiling a watchlist
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tackysapphic 03/24/2023 1:05 PM
does anyone answer those truthfully because any time I see them like not even just on gov websites it just feels like a trap
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/24/2023 1:06 PM
Nope. It's so rare that anytime it is an option I'm just like "not today Satan"
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tackysapphic 03/24/2023 1:07 PM
same. And same when forms ask my pronouns or anything like mmm no thank you I’m not putting that information on this website form. If need be I’ll disclose in person when I’m sure it’s safe but you are not about to catch me slipping
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ronnie (he/him) 03/24/2023 1:08 PM
I’m always as vague as I can be about it without seeming suspicious I don’t want to be outed by an online form
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Woopsiedoodle, cancelled
Arnold Karr 03/24/2023 1:16 PM
Ban-the-Bratwurst.woke
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Sam McKenzie 03/24/2023 1:47 PM
I don't tend to answer honestly to the government, but I do for like school or other things bc I'm pretty sure it goes to show demographic data. Schools like USC and other institutions in general will be like oh we don't have any trans/nb students/members, that's not something we have to be concerned about, in part because no one self-identifies as such in surveys. So there's a lot of really great reasons to decline to give them that info, but I want the institutions I'm a part of to know there's trans people within them, so that's why I tend to self-identify
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If I feel safe to do so. It's still on a case-by-case basis
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Arnold Karr 03/24/2023 2:40 PM
If they don't have a way of collecting demographic data anonymously, it's their own fault they don't know and probably indicates they don't want to know.
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Where do I sign up to testify Wednesday
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If I’m not mistaken, sign ups happen at the door usually
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Ok cool
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Looks like it’s based on who they didn’t get to last time due to time and then if there’s time, they’ll let new speakers go
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I see
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Looks like it’s based on who they didn’t get to last time due to time and then if there’s time, they’ll let new speakers go
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/24/2023 3:37 PM
this isnt the right bill?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
this isnt the right bill?
There’s another one? This one is integrity in education meeting on the 29th
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/24/2023 3:39 PM
yeah thats the wrong meeting bernie
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we're there for the medical affairs comittee, senate
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So this one?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/24/2023 3:40 PM
yep
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Also shame how they’re overlapping like that
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/24/2023 3:41 PM
wait a sec what the fuck
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they only let you sign up in favor of the bills
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are the others full
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Arnold Karr 03/24/2023 3:43 PM
Why do people who are so ignorant about the bible talk so much about biblical values? The whole idea of being "woke," as I understand it, comes from a reading of Isaiah 26:19: Those who dwell in the dust will awake and shout for joy! which is adapted by the early Christian hymn in Ephesians 5:14: Sleeper, awake! Rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you. So Christians, of all people, should be "woke." One more quotation - not from the bible, apropos pontificating on things one knows nothing about: "Classic" - a book which people praise and don't read. Mark Twain https://share.newsbreak.com/3edtgu9n
NORTH CHARLESTON, S.C. — Republicans who are seeking to lead their party in the 2024 presidential race gathered in South Carolina this weekend with a goal...
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
are the others full
Camryn Aisling 03/24/2023 3:43 PM
??????
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
are the others full
I’d send an email to the committee email. Staff members usually are the ones checking those and you may get a response
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/24/2023 3:44 PM
@pickles- they/them (mel) do you know anything as far as why we cannot sign up to speak against s627 and s623
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robin (they/it) 03/24/2023 4:07 PM
say you will speak for it and then just dont ?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/24/2023 4:12 PM
they replace you with walk-ins if that happens
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I’d send an email to the committee email. Staff members usually are the ones checking those and you may get a response
robin (they/it) 03/24/2023 5:15 PM
is this going to happen ?
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is this going to happen ?
If it was rigged then it doesn’t really matter (except maybe to have a paper trail that there was a request to fix the issue), that was just if they made a mistake with the form and forgot to add the right options (which given the general tech-savvy of almost anyone in state government, could actually have been an honest mistake)
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Prescott (he/they) 03/24/2023 6:12 PM
Hey y'all šŸ‘‹ (especially @Upstate SC folks!) I wanted to invite you to the job fair that Pride Link and the LGBT Chamber of Commerce are hosting on April 12th. Last year we had a fantastic turn out and a few queer and trans people got offered jobs day of. If you're looking for work or know people who are looking please invite them. ā¤ļø https://fb.me/e/2oyKmpVro
According to the Center for American Progress, HALF of LGBTQ+ adults reported facing some kind of employment discrimination in 2022. Additionally, UCLA research indicates that pre-pandemic LGBT...
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Hey y'all šŸ‘‹ (especially @Upstate SC folks!) I wanted to invite you to the job fair that Pride Link and the LGBT Chamber of Commerce are hosting on April 12th. Last year we had a fantastic turn out and a few queer and trans people got offered jobs day of. If you're looking for work or know people who are looking please invite them. ā¤ļø https://fb.me/e/2oyKmpVro
seb it/they 03/24/2023 6:30 PM
Do you mind if we out this in announcements and make it into an event
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seb it/they
Do you mind if we out this in announcements and make it into an event
Prescott (he/they) 03/24/2023 6:36 PM
Please do! Sorry if I put this in the wrong spot.
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seb it/they 03/24/2023 6:36 PM
No you're fine! Thanks for posting about it
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if youre interested dm me
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Gave a misprinted oat sticker to a coworker who is based and cool and she thought i said organize Against trans and got super mad and threw it at me lmao.
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seb it/they 03/24/2023 8:45 PM
lollll
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/24/2023 8:46 PM
At least you know she is an ally
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The scarry thing is that we don't know if it's inclusive, it could be compiling a watchlist
Oh, hence the sarcasm for sure
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/25/2023 8:07 AM
Im here at blatt
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I'll be there soon
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Cass (she/her) 03/25/2023 8:20 AM
^
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
Im here at blatt
robin (they/it) 03/25/2023 8:25 AM
me too
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Matt Cox he/him 03/25/2023 11:14 AM
Does anyone know who’s this is?
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Hayden (he/they) 03/25/2023 11:16 AM
The chair is mine
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I just can't come down there due to where my car is
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Matt Cox he/him 03/25/2023 11:16 AM
Ok Liv has it
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Of course
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Matt Cox he/him 03/25/2023 11:18 AM
ā€œThis is Political hysteria,ā€ man that is NOT a self aware take
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Liar Tuck is concerned; see his concerned face?
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Matt Cox he/him 03/25/2023 11:18 AM
Is that what that is? I thought he had a particularly stubborn poop
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Although that would cause me concern, mind you
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// genocide So what he’s doing is he’s making pretext for armed right wingers to murder trans people in the street. He’s saying that since we’re armed, we’re a threat to them and a threat has to be dealt with. Our self defense is seen as offensive action against them.
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Matt Cox he/him 03/25/2023 11:25 AM
Cw violence Yup. He’s the worst. That’s how we need to understand all this. To quote Oi Polloi, ā€œdon’t talk to me bout free speech with murdering fascist thugs.ā€
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Oi Polloi, what a great name. Gotta look them up.
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Matt Cox he/him 03/25/2023 11:48 AM
The song is let the boots do the talking
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James Harley 03/25/2023 11:54 AM
I where boots, they speak for themselves!
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trans girl friend of mine making music
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/25/2023 7:19 PM
trans girlfriend? 😳
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no just trans girl friend
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lol
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Prescott (he/they) 03/27/2023 10:24 AM
@Upstate SC friends anyone planning on coming to the Greenville library board of trustees meeting today?
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/27/2023 10:32 AM
Unfortunately I'm working. But I did share with some comrades who are gonna show up.
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Unfortunately I'm working. But I did share with some comrades who are gonna show up.
Prescott (he/they) 03/27/2023 10:53 AM
Hell yeah. I'd love to meet them I've got some trans flag pins in the shape of SC to give them. Got my hair in bun and a navy blue button up shirt.
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if there's any support i can give frm here in cola please let me know
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libraries were my safe queer space growing up and it's very important we protect them (edited)
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WhichWitch17 03/27/2023 11:27 AM
agreed, i lived in my local library as a high schooler, the sweet old lady in charge was so nice and accepting, i loved her so much
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it really hurts to see libraries under attack recently, those places are safe spaces for so many people
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What do you suppose the chances are of getting library staff to stage a walkout if required to discriminate?
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WhichWitch17 03/27/2023 11:53 AM
Honestly probably pretty high. Most libraries are chill places
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From my experiences library staff tends to be pretty radical and cool
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/27/2023 12:59 PM
Just found out that one of the organizers from the Freedom for Libraries Advocacy Group came to a teach-in I helped organize last year and they've been using information we shared to help organize these events. I'm gonna cry y'all 🄹
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love otlat just casually roasting all the transphobes in the toilet paper ig post
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/27/2023 1:04 PM
They make it pretty easy, tbf
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seb it/they 03/27/2023 1:16 PM
is there any way you could get them in here aaron?
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i think we need some cool radical librarians in here
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/27/2023 1:17 PM
Hmmm let me see
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Damn, woulda been nice to have some OAT stickers and QR codes to pass out at the event, now that I'm thinking about it.
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they have their own discord as well
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/27/2023 1:18 PM
Oh cool. And I was thinking, I'll just message them on Insta and invite them to join.
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robin (they/it) 03/27/2023 1:18 PM
merge the discords
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I can also post in their facebook group if we want
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seb it/they 03/27/2023 1:22 PM
please :)
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made a post, will update when updates happen (edited)
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Logan (he/him) 03/27/2023 2:24 PM
Are we planning on having another clothing swap soon or was it just the past weekend for rn?
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seb it/they 03/27/2023 2:25 PM
Id like to do another one when it's not raining
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Hayden (he/they) 03/27/2023 2:27 PM
I was thinking on that after the last one. Its kinda an awkward time because finals are coming up at the end of April, and after the first few weeks of may a lot of college people go home
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jules (she/they) 03/27/2023 8:31 PM
hey, introducing myself real quick! i do library stuff, watch a lot of reality tv, etc. i started the greenville library's first queer program, which im extremely proud of. idk how much bandwidth i have for showing up for stuff, BUT im a very good researcher so always happy to help there.
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Hey! We'd also like to offer any support we have for y'all, I know how much it seems like things are heating up a bit in Greenville
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jules (she/they) 03/27/2023 8:52 PM
thanks! i think right now, we're trying to figure out what's going on + what next steps are. its all a bit confusing at the moment.
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seb it/they 03/27/2023 8:55 PM
please keep us in the loop if we can help with anything specific
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jules (she/they) 03/27/2023 8:55 PM
absolutely! and same goes here.
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yall
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we're at tios
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and tpusa ppl are here
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Make a scene
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Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!
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call them pussies
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Nico (she/her) 03/27/2023 9:29 PM
Oh gosh I gotta pee but they're here šŸ‘€
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Hayden (he/they) 03/27/2023 9:29 PM
"Is this marg tower a woman?"
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jules (she/they) 03/27/2023 9:30 PM
oh lord tios marg towers... thats a name i havent heard in a long time... (edited)
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ronnie (he/him) 03/27/2023 9:31 PM
It’s so funny the waiter heard one of us say ā€œtpusaā€ and they were like PSST THEYRE OVER THERE…
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Nico (she/her) 03/27/2023 9:32 PM
I was talking about how I saw Dylan and a coworker tried to canvass him
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And then the waitress told us they're here
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they're headed south towards longstreet theatre
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js
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robin (they/it) 03/27/2023 9:35 PM
the titties building 😮
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seb it/they 03/28/2023 3:04 PM
@jules (she/they) in the flag instagram post it mentions writing a letter to the board of the library What would we need to do for that? can this be done by people not in greeneville?
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if there's not a generic letter written already we can do that and get people to send them in
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jules (she/they) 03/28/2023 3:15 PM
so, that call to action is over. the board voted to remove the language about gender from the policy. thats a win for now! BUT it will probably still go back to a committee and could be voted on again as soon as next month, so we're not out of the woods yet. anyone could write to the board but if youre not a greenville resident, id just keep that detail to yourself. thanking them for removing language about gender could be good, as well as asking them to please not include it in later policies. the board members are here with all of their emails: https://www.greenvillelibrary.org/board-of-trustees
The library system is governed by eleven board members appointed by the Greenville County Council.
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I'm willing to be a mod, but I'm not super educated on discord so I would basically just be a pair of hands, not big ideas or implementations. If others feel more strongly about wanting to do it please prioritize them (edited)
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seb it/they 03/28/2023 5:26 PM
i can also bully you into learning (teach you things)
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i think we should try to do a non CSOC person so it's not all CSOC though
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seb it/they
i can also bully you into learning (teach you things)
earlier I couldn't figure out how to log into my email from my phone
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I also agree with that point. part of why I wanted others to be prioritized, I just want to make sure we can spread the load
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I’m also willing to be a mod. I’m fairly well-versed in discord’s functions and am a moderator or have had some sort of management role in quite a few servers over the years. I’m not an expert on a lot, but Discord is something I do know and can help with. I don’t have an excess of time atm, but Birdcage planning is what’s taking up most of my free time at the moment and that will end one way or another by April 12th. I’m also frequently able to pop in for minutes here and there every day, have to be on discord for a number of things including OAT. I am a USC student though, and while not explicitly associated with CSOC, it was brought up last time that it might be good to not have all the mods be USC students. (edited)
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Olivia
earlier I couldn't figure out how to log into my email from my phone
Truly, the world’s youngest boomer
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Victor (they/them) 03/28/2023 9:15 PM
Saw this on insta, does anyone know of plans in SC? I have been out of the loop but wanted to ask
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seb it/they 03/28/2023 9:15 PM
I know there will be a march in Greenville (edited)
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Nova šŸ’• 03/28/2023 9:16 PM
What are the details on that?
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seb it/they 03/28/2023 9:18 PM
Your voice can change the world! Come out March 31st to support on this years Trans Day of Visibility! We will be peacefully rallying in Greenville SC from 3pm to 5pm. We’ll have snacks, water, and masks for everyone. Feel free to reach out for more info.
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Also you can ask @ariawinter
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We’re having a rally in Greenville. There’s also going to be a march in Columbia. https://queeryouthassemble.org/southeast/
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seb it/they 03/28/2023 9:35 PM
do you know who is coordinating in cola?
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( i think they are messaging us on insta maybe lol)
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Transgender awareness alliance
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seb it/they 03/28/2023 9:36 PM
ah okay cool
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Ed Kelly is a Charleston county school board member who has talked about violent acts against trans teachers. The person who publicly shared his comments sent us a petition for him to resign https://www.change.org/p/demand-ed-kelley-s-resignation?redirect=false&fbclid=PAAaajkblb4NPOmtTM3rVfkmQ3S-lFrfH8ES8T_4CpuVkWkBdm3sy3DGgOXjs
Demand Ed Kelley's Resignation
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so much stuff going on its hard to keep up
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Ed Kelly is a Charleston county school board member who has talked about violent acts against trans teachers. The person who publicly shared his comments sent us a petition for him to resign https://www.change.org/p/demand-ed-kelley-s-resignation?redirect=false&fbclid=PAAaajkblb4NPOmtTM3rVfkmQ3S-lFrfH8ES8T_4CpuVkWkBdm3sy3DGgOXjs
Hey! This link doesn’t work. Can you relink?
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Oh I lied
22:29
I’m the problem
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Ignore me
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lai
so much stuff going on its hard to keep up
Is there anything I can do to make stuff clearer or less overwhelming?
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seb it/they
Is there anything I can do to make stuff clearer or less overwhelming?
I appreciate it but it’s more so not being able to commit time personally šŸ˜ž I think it’s great y’all have lots of stuff going on it gives me hope
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Yeah that makes sense
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Everything is very busy right now
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Oh neat, I'll be able to catch the tail end of that Friday, maybe the last 30 mins to an hour. With 77 North down, it's taken me an hour to get home after work where it took 20 minutes before, cause I live downtown and work in Gaston lmao
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seb it/they 03/29/2023 8:28 AM
Good luck to everyone at the medical affairs committee today
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I will be next door in 207 for transportation, but give them a whole lot of hell
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robin (they/it) 03/29/2023 8:37 AM
trans portation ? šŸ‘€
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The gayest part of government
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 8:58 AM
Im a little upset because not a single person testifying against the bills looks under 40
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But it's a great turnout, at least there's that
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 9:01 AM
Even if some of these people are trans none of them are young enough to be affected
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 9:02 AM
sorry for backing out, i am sicky
09:02
will be watching the stream though!
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oh also! good luck testifying!!!
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I’m here but I don’t think they’re letting anyone else in
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 9:05 AM
yeah.
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Not unless you're on the list to speak or someone else leaves
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 9:05 AM
Only the 48 testifiers are allowed in the room
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 9:06 AM
that happened last time i went to testify
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They take a break for a week and then shove all the controversial legislation into tiny meeting rooms to make participating in the process as hard as possible
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I love government so much
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 9:08 AM
is this why they also make it so that you have equal amount of testimony for each side?
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They know they are outnumbered so they limit slots and make it even to give themselves and their beliefs a leg up from where they are in the gutter
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Very sexy, very cool
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I’m here but I don’t think they’re letting anyone else in
Harper (they/she) 03/29/2023 9:09 AM
Oops i also just got turned away
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Harper (they/she)
Oops i also just got turned away
In the lobby or on 2?
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Hayden (he/they) 03/29/2023 9:10 AM
Do they not have an overflow room?
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The hallway is just crowded and they cancelled the meeting next door
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In the lobby or on 2?
Harper (they/she) 03/29/2023 9:11 AM
Lobby
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Like security told me at the desk that it's speakers only, so i left (edited)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 9:12 AM
Lie idk
09:12
I got up there anyway
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Might be late to lie?
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Harper (they/she) 03/29/2023 9:13 AM
They have a list of names soooooo...
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Say you're going to Senate finance hhs subcommittee in 307 and take the stairs down
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Or just get off at 2 lol
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 9:15 AM
People speaking in favor of the bill who arent trans, have no trans relatives, and are literally reading off stories from the internet
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Very cool
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Bernie
Or just get off at 2 lol
Harper (they/she) 03/29/2023 9:15 AM
Sorry I'm already gone
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Hayden (he/they) 03/29/2023 9:15 AM
Live stream^
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
People speaking in favor of the bill who arent trans, have no trans relatives, and are literally reading off stories from the internet
Yeah, it's less than ideal
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 9:17 AM
i love the casual ableism of the second speaker "there's an explosion of young people who are autistic or have adhd, that are finding information online that tells them they're trans" (edited)
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seb it/they 03/29/2023 9:17 AM
Whoop
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BenjaminIsaac 03/29/2023 9:17 AM
ugh the jk rowling effect
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seb it/they 03/29/2023 9:17 AM
This is why we take ableism seriously
09:18
Also why y'all should wear a mask and actually protect and fight for disabled people :)
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BenjaminIsaac 03/29/2023 9:18 AM
finding info online that convinces us to be trans was never part of the findings, all we know is there’s a correlation (and it’s a COOL and GOOD correlation too)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 9:18 AM
Bernie and i are the only ones here masked šŸ™ƒ
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There's one hero in orange
09:19
But it's bleak
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Hayden (he/they) 03/29/2023 9:19 AM
Hell yeah disability rights speaker
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 9:19 AM
the chair is really not happy that people signed up to speak in support of the bill and then showed up to speak against it
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Sucks to suck
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Hayden (he/they)
Hell yeah disability rights speaker
seb it/they 03/29/2023 9:20 AM
Are they wearing a mask
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 9:20 AM
he's saying that people who sign up to speak for a bill who testify against it will bump off other people who want to testify agianst it
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seb it/they
Are they wearing a mask
Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 9:20 AM
no
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seb it/they 03/29/2023 9:20 AM
Wtf
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Hayden (he/they) 03/29/2023 9:20 AM
Yes, they only took it off to speak
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 9:20 AM
oh
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seb it/they 03/29/2023 9:21 AM
Oh okay
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 9:21 AM
sry
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Hayden (he/they) 03/29/2023 9:21 AM
Y'all know EK right?
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seb it/they 03/29/2023 9:21 AM
No? Maybe
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Hayden (he/they) 03/29/2023 9:21 AM
EK Hoffman? Surprised if they aren't in here
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 9:21 AM
"this person all signed up to speak for the bill"
09:22
wow they're really getting pissed at people signing up to speak for it who don't do that (edited)
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Hayden (he/they) 03/29/2023 9:23 AM
Throwing a hissy fit lol
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Oh no the catholics
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That institution famous for protecting children
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 9:26 AM
"puberty blockers are reckless, the process cannot be reversed if the individual changes their mind"
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seb it/they 03/29/2023 9:27 AM
Lol we love misinformation
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 9:27 AM
ā€œRadical attack on human dignityā€
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Also referencing TWO count them TWO whole detrans people
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An epidemic, truly ;-;
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 9:34 AM
"state-ruled transition"
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150 sc folk were prepared to deliver remarks but the process changed on friday at a moment's notice.
i can't beleive that they just did that
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 9:39 AM
ā€œClassical genitaliaā€
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 9:40 AM
personally i prefer my postmodern genitalia
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 9:40 AM
Yeah uh my favorite genre of genitals is punk, but you do you
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What the hell is going on (I slept in and am not there)
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 9:41 AM
there's a livestream here
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Cyprus
What the hell is going on (I slept in and am not there)
Medical Affairs meeting for the Senate, they’re doing dangerous nonsense again
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 9:41 AM
committe is whining about people not respecting the 12 people for, 12 people against rule they created on friday
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think most proponents are Concerned Christians
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robin (they/it) 03/29/2023 9:43 AM
cant get tattoo or drink till youre old cant be trans till youre old ...
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 9:43 AM
They did another ableism
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Autistic people arent developed until we are 25
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
They did another ableism
A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/29/2023 9:44 AM
Anyone have BINGO yet?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
Autistic people arent developed until we are 25
What did they say?
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 9:45 AM
autistic people are getting transed by their teachers and parents
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 9:45 AM
And that we are unable to govern ourselves while our cis peers can
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That is beyond infuriating
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lumenbos (they/he) 03/29/2023 9:46 AM
my most frustrated lmao
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 9:46 AM
my favorite part was when the pastor went up and said that god gave man the responsibility to manage his familly
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I think that lady came from the pediatrician hate group, they're researched by the SPLC (edited)
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I think that lady came from the pediatrician hate group, they're researched by the SPLC (edited)
Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 9:46 AM
what's the name?
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seb it/they 03/29/2023 9:47 AM
The American College of Pediatricians (ACPeds) is a fringe anti-LGBTQ hate group that masquerades as the premier U.S. association of pediatricians to push anti-LGBTQ junk science, primarily via far-right conservative media and filing amicus briefs in cases related to gay adoption and marriage equality.​
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It's these fuckers
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 9:48 AM
Yall im in the room
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 9:48 AM
ye
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robin (they/it) 03/29/2023 9:49 AM
bro just straight up lying
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 9:50 AM
athena thank you for showing up
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i would be fuming in the room if i were not a sleepy bitch
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I had to leave for a meeting about septic tank permits And somehow that’s still not the grossest thing being discussed at the State House today
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 9:52 AM
Lol this person is just a tomboy
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Tomboys against transsexuals
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Harper (they/she) 03/29/2023 9:53 AM
not the "reformed" skater T_T
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Please tell me no one actually said that
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 9:54 AM
said what?
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robin (they/it) 03/29/2023 9:54 AM
she was like i used to thing i was a boy because i was awkward and was a skater hehe
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers)
said what?
ā€œReformed skaterā€ šŸ’€ I wonder if they used roller skates to wean themselves off
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 9:55 AM
she brought a picture of herself as a skater tomboy and was like "i'm so much happier now as a woman"
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we need to talk more about the tomboy -> transexual pipeline
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seb it/they 03/29/2023 9:55 AM
Hi it's me
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ya me too bestie
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seb it/they 03/29/2023 9:56 AM
Reformed tomboy ... Now I am transfem
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I’m not usually in favour of pipelines, but this seems promising
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lumenbos (they/he) 03/29/2023 9:56 AM
me now I'm a feminine man and it's awesome
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 9:56 AM
She literally said no one supported her as a kid and now she’s grown up all sad, but if she was born now she would be trans
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Like wow i wonder if that might’ve helped you out bestie
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we need to talk more about the tomboy -> transexual pipeline
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 9:57 AM
Ok but what about the transsexual to tomboy pipeline
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(Me)
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at this point I'm working on tomboy -> transsexual -> tomboy, it's rough out here
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Olivia
at this point I'm working on tomboy -> transsexual -> tomboy, it's rough out here
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 9:58 AM
Truly such a confused and lost youth
09:58
This is a joke
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seb it/they 03/29/2023 9:58 AM
Abusing my mod power to remove the skateboards that Felix got so I can have more
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 9:58 AM
Just because you said that i added 1 more to felix
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Idk about all this trans stuff, I just lost my gender to that place where loose socks go to disappear forever
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Harper (they/she) 03/29/2023 10:00 AM
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 10:03 AM
They just kicked out a trans kid
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 10:04 AM
the chair committe refused to let the last 5(?) people who were signed up to testify against the bill speak
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robin (they/it) 03/29/2023 10:05 AM
coup
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 10:06 AM
there is not a single person here for s623
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Fuck yeah
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this dude is a baller
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 10:07 AM
"is there anyone here who wants to speak for the bill?" > Silence
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literally nobody wants to support his stupid fucking bill
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the one speaker who spoke for it said: "don't listen to the people you represent, listen to the bible.... sure, we have the constitution, and no religion should influence legislation but don't you read genesis, god creatted men and women" (edited)
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oh hey athena
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 10:08 AM
Where are you
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 10:09 AM
i'm at home sorry
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 10:09 AM
Oh
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I thought you were here
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 10:09 AM
no
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 10:09 AM
Im in the green dress if im on camera
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 10:09 AM
you are not
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 10:10 AM
Oofers im in the 2nd row
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 10:10 AM
i love how the camera is panned so that you can't actually see the people who are in the room
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yeah
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this is what happens when you ask cis people to livestream
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers)
this is what happens when you ask cis people to livestream
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 10:12 AM
Error 404 no IT transfemmes found
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 10:13 AM
i think it would be 401 unauthorized
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if they pull this shit in the future, i think it would be cool to sign up to testify for the bill and just testify very poorly
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I think that is a bad idea
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 10:15 AM
why
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They will take any testimony as a success, and cannot understand nuance or irony
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Or will chose to not understand nuance or irony
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The camera angles are pre-set, they can theoretically change but it's like this for most meetings
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 10:16 AM
oh also this is the bill that is missing the section K
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or f?
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it refers to a part of itself that does not exist
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F, I think
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Motherfuckers can't even copy paste
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers)
if they pull this shit in the future, i think it would be cool to sign up to testify for the bill and just testify very poorly
robin (they/it) 03/29/2023 10:17 AM
ive seen videos of people doing this where they just very much exaggerate the meaning behind the bills... like im against abortion because i hate women and want more of them to die ... things like that works best if a normie cis passing man does it
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 10:17 AM
oo
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that's a good idea
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Motherfuckers can't even copy paste
The problem is they can, but when they change things, they’re too lazy to edit anything that would change Legislators are not always the most thinking people
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Copy and paste is how this hate legislation spreads so fast
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robin (they/it)
ive seen videos of people doing this where they just very much exaggerate the meaning behind the bills... like im against abortion because i hate women and want more of them to die ... things like that works best if a normie cis passing man does it
robin (they/it) 03/29/2023 10:19 AM
bro also goes to trump rallys and just acts really stupid to bring the credibility of the whole group down
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 10:23 AM
This church bishop is killing it
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Shoutout to them
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I'm so glad the Episcopalian bishop is here tbh transheart
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 10:27 AM
i don't talk to cis male allies a lot but i think it's cool that people like him are willing to show up
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 10:28 AM
Not sure why this guy isnt letting his daughter speak
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 10:29 AM
it's unfortunate
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robin (they/it) 03/29/2023 10:29 AM
maybe child is afraid of talking to old men
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tiredeyes "Not different, just not normal..."
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 10:29 AM
yeah
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i support confused cis allies
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but it's understandable to be upset
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robin (they/it) 03/29/2023 10:30 AM
"you have not been recognized"
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I recognised myself
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 10:31 AM
they're refusing to use the rest of the time they have to let the people speak (including the people who signed up to speak and were bumped off the list through no fault of their own)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 10:32 AM
I want to stand and say something but if i do im going to get kicked out
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 10:32 AM
yeah
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it's ur call
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Yea don't get arrested Athena @.@
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 10:32 AM
They arent arresting people i dont think
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 10:33 AM
what are the committe members doing?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 10:33 AM
I have no clue
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Debating stuff
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Fuck i think they want DHEC to withdraw proposals to make gender changes easier
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 10:35 AM
bernie do these rooms have senographers in them?
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers)
bernie do these rooms have senographers in them?
They have clerks, but no stenographers.
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robin (they/it) 03/29/2023 10:35 AM
watching this is making me so sad and angry
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 10:35 AM
i can't understand the shitty zoom rebroadcast audio
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ah
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 10:35 AM
Ok cool they want DHEC to testify thats good
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My company is supposed to have someone in there taking notes on it, though
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I may be able to get those if it’s not a legal conflict
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 10:36 AM
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Ah, DHEC! They’re everywhere recently trying to justify their existence before the legislation to have them broken up gets to the floor. They’re saying good stuff?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 10:37 AM
I think so?
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theyre trying to get rid of DHEC?!?
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Hayden (he/they) 03/29/2023 10:38 AM
I think trying to break it up into a few agencies
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Like splinters in the wind
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theyre trying to get rid of DHEC?!?
They’re trying to break apart the health and the environment parts of them. Some functions are set to become their own departments, some are going to be absorbed into other agencies that perform similar functions.
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Hayden (he/they) 03/29/2023 10:38 AM
South Carolina Senators are renewing a push to split up the state's health department.
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I’ve been in committee meetings on it, some stakeholders are okay with it, some aren’t, but generally nobody is really for it strongly. The tenor from what I can tell is that it won’t end up passing, or not in its current state
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 10:39 AM
it seeems that the senate subcommitte on medical affairs's official stance on medicine is "no"
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Veterans Affairs is especially against it because they lack anyone on staff with clinical expertise and this would put all medical resources for veterans that DHEC currently handles under VA
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 10:40 AM
Yeah DHEC wants to make this an admin process instead of court
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Which is a good thing
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One meeting was basically the chief of that department begging for a few years to hire people who might know what they’re doing or people will almost certainly die unnecessarily
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Just in case you were worried things were going better in literally any other part of this government
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 10:41 AM
why is state politics so soul crushing
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It’s incredibly hegemonic and insular in its functioning. We’re not with the mainstream views of the state legislature, so it’s always going to be a fight to get anything.
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i thikn it's designed that way
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so only souless ghouls can have power
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But I’m a ghoul and all I have is great hair and stress ;-;
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 10:45 AM
does dhec require proof of grs or just "completed transition"
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 10:47 AM
They are discussing 627
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robin (they/it) 03/29/2023 10:47 AM
wooo
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers)
does dhec require proof of grs or just "completed transition"
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 10:47 AM
Its vague, its permanent physical transition or whatever
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robin (they/it) 03/29/2023 10:47 AM
that one guy said he was gonna vote no
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 10:49 AM
the bill as written mandates that everyone at the school has to notify parents, no matter the relationship between the staff member and student
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Hutto’s a solid guy
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Shane Martin sucks ;-;
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 10:51 AM
what was the black man who voted no but had to leave Kevin L. Johnson?
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i couln't hear his name
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Hayden (he/they) 03/29/2023 10:52 AM
Hutto was one of the senators who looked in at the trans meeting day at the state house, stood around for a second, and left lol
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Did that reporter talk to anyone?
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robin (they/it) 03/29/2023 10:57 AM
✨ multitasking ✨
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Are these clowns mature enough to legislate this marx
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 10:57 AM
I feel sick
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 10:59 AM
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robin (they/it) 03/29/2023 10:59 AM
every child has issues
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Hutto is staying some pretty good things, by legislator standards. Not quite the right point, but it’s the sort of track and almost halfway there? Don’t love the emphasis on parents and doctors acting in the best interest of kids, but at least he wants the government out of it, which could be a good vote here
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robin (they/it)
✨ multitasking ✨
Not the rate limiting step ;-;
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robin (they/it)
every child has issues
Some kids get an F on their math test, some kids eat glue, some kids are trans You know, issues šŸ’€
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 11:01 AM
is that a quote? please tell me that's not a quote
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ā€œSome of the testimony is conflictingā€ - when you only let people talk in even numbers ā€œI do researchā€ - comparing trans kids to starving neglected children buying cigarettes (edited)
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Oh god and now he’s an HRT expert after a google search This is a different guy, btw
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers)
is that a quote? please tell me that's not a quote
robin (they/it) 03/29/2023 11:02 AM
"every child has issues" is a quote what bernie said is not
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers)
is that a quote? please tell me that's not a quote
Lol no, just an exaggeration of something rude Hutto said He was supportive in general, but in that not-quite-getting-it way
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Athena went out a hero
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robin (they/it) 03/29/2023 11:04 AM
mans just said trans kids are spoiled because their parents give them whatever surgeries they want
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Oh my god someone just said ā€œthis is why children are seen and not heardā€ about Athena’s comments and walk out
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 11:04 AM
was athena the one who said that autistic people deserve autonomy
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers)
was athena the one who said that autistic people deserve autonomy
Yep, it was amazing
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 11:05 AM
hell yes
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athena thank you
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robin (they/it) 03/29/2023 11:05 AM
how many votes was that for and against
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Oh my god someone just said ā€œthis is why children are seen and not heardā€ about Athena’s comments and walk out
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 11:06 AM
One of the senators?
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers)
was athena the one who said that autistic people deserve autonomy
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 11:06 AM
Yea that was me
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I got kicked out after
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lumenbos (they/he) 03/29/2023 11:06 AM
thank you athena
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
One of the senators?
Nope, the audience, some old person to the left in the first or second row
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
I got kicked out after
You stormed out, they had to get out of your way šŸ’…
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 11:08 AM
Yes they did
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robin (they/it) 03/29/2023 11:09 AM
bernie what happened its really hard to hear the legislators and then the video stopped
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robin (they/it)
bernie what happened its really hard to hear the legislators and then the video stopped
They said some more things, no vote from what I could hear, and adjourned
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robin (they/it) 03/29/2023 11:10 AM
they voted no or there was no vote
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Bernie
Nope, the audience, some old person to the left in the first or second row
Correction, she said it again, called it an ancient ideology, and had the absolute worst dye job and highlights I’ve ever seen
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robin (they/it)
they voted no or there was no vote
They were both voted out of committee, it moves so fast ;-; It was 4-3, now they go to full committee. It’s not the end, just a next step
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 11:18 AM
wait what
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Camryn Aisling 03/29/2023 11:18 AM
What
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 11:18 AM
how did the vote for the bill fail but the vote to remove them from the committe pass
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Hayden (he/they) 03/29/2023 11:19 AM
This is the subcommittee. The most important folks in full committee. Sounds like it passed this small group for a vote by the full committee.
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 11:20 AM
what subcommitte was this?
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ColorfulKnoll 03/29/2023 11:20 AM
Medical I think
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Medical Affairs, yeah
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Hayden (he/they) 03/29/2023 11:22 AM
So who voted yes/no in the 4-3
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No idea, but safe to assume a R/D split
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robin (they/it) 03/29/2023 11:24 AM
the only black person and hutto voted no, from what i could tell
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Heya I'd like to throw my hat in for moderator šŸ™‚
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Nova šŸ’• 03/29/2023 11:53 AM
Same
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Please šŸ™šŸ¼
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My math says we'd have to flip 3 Rs for medical affairs committee to not push these bills forward
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Nova šŸ’•
Same
To clarify you'd like to be a moderator?
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Nova šŸ’• 03/29/2023 12:16 PM
Sup yes
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Okay cool :)
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Nova šŸ’• 03/29/2023 12:16 PM
Ignore sup
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We have 2 main strategies for preventing pogroms: 1. Build and strengthen ties within and between communities. This means talk to people, show up for meetings and events, make contacts among organizers and regular members of communities. All kinds of workers can aid in comdef:
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tackysapphic 03/29/2023 3:04 PM
hey so i was in class this morning when the hearing or whatever was held and i read through y’all’s messages but am a bit confused, what happened?
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Hayden (he/they) 03/29/2023 3:05 PM
Both bills discussed at the Senate subcommittee of medical affairs passed, meaning they are up for a vote by the full medical affairs committee
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After that it goes to the full senate, afaik
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Cool beans tonight at 7pm an event?
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tackysapphic 03/29/2023 3:15 PM
great šŸ™ƒ
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 3:24 PM
had to skip therapy to make up a quiz today after everything that happened this morning 🫠
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im a tiny little puddle of slime on the floor
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Caboose
Cool beans tonight at 7pm an event?
Hayden (he/they) 03/29/2023 3:25 PM
Oh yeah I've read in front of mind gravy before, it's a good group
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Hayden (he/they)
Oh yeah I've read in front of mind gravy before, it's a good group
Never heard of em, but always a good opportunity to meet ppl/groups, gonna give em some stickers
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Hayden (he/they) 03/29/2023 3:26 PM
It's a bunch of cool older people, I used to go pre-pandemic when I lived at Cornell arms
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seb it/they 03/29/2023 4:44 PM
if y'all are going to go you should make sure to invite them here :)
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Nico (she/her) 03/29/2023 5:56 PM
anyone have any advice for (cw weight loss) gaining weight, I've lost like 10 lbs in 2 months and I was already pretty underweight, I haven't gained weight since I was 16
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 6:10 PM
ive been on medications and diets for weight gain if thats what you're looking for?
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Nico (she/her) 03/29/2023 6:12 PM
maybe not medications but diets yes
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Nico (she/her)
maybe not medications but diets yes
I've had to deal with being underweight most of my life, largely from ADHD treatment and related habits... what worked for me to an extent was calorie counting. You don't really have to stick with it permanently, but mainly long enough to get a vague idea of what things have in them so you can just get more in and have some idea of a target. Definitely not the healthiest advice but drinking soda does make it easy to get more calories in -- my doctor literally recommended ice cream as a healthier alternative since that at least has some protein, so maybe try that instead (if it doesn't violate any dietary restrictions you have). Make sure calorie dense snack foods are available, nuts in particular are a good choice, just anything that you can easily grab and eat so when you do get the urge to eat something it doesn't take much effort to do it.
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I'm the one with the kid lol
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So many ppl here, gave some stickers with the QR code to the older fella with the white face hair who was talking and to some of the people around
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Hayden (he/they) 03/29/2023 10:07 PM
At least 11 states have now enacted laws restricting or banning gender-affirming care for minors.
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Hey everyone, I RSVPed for the Make up class on the 1st but I can't make it, if someone wants to take my spot they can (edited)
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there are two slots open now!! pls come if u want
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can we make an announcement?
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seb it/they 03/30/2023 9:04 AM
You have the power char
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omg i do (edited)
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Lynnie (she/her) 03/30/2023 9:13 AM
Hey y'all. I saw some familiar faces yesterday. Thank you for coming. It was SUCH a shitty day. I'm so sorry we all had to experience that. All fights worth fighting experience setbacks. We will continue to fight as we can, and care for others when we can't. I'm proud to know this group!
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seb it/they 03/30/2023 9:35 AM
not the god bless you
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Lynnie (she/her) 03/30/2023 9:35 AM
Do we know if they are being arrested/charged, or just forcibly removed? In case bail needs to be raised
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They were detained and released
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Lynnie (she/her) 03/30/2023 9:35 AM
Thank you
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Maybe we should start looking at doing things like civil disobedience as these bills start advancing
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/30/2023 9:44 AM
the crowd at the state house yesterday wasnt terribly far off
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seb it/they 03/30/2023 9:45 AM
I think it's doable
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This would be for when bills reached the full floor so like a month from now
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seb it/they 03/30/2023 9:53 AM
i think a prority would be to get more concerte support from Dems in whatever area we're speaking in
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Cyprus
They were detained and released
Arnold Karr 03/30/2023 9:54 AM
Like sport fishing-just for the fun of it?
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Hayden (he/they) 03/30/2023 9:54 AM
A filibuster would be more likely and relevant on the Senate floor, could require some teeth pulling but not impossible
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Dingo (they/them) 03/30/2023 9:55 AM
Holy shit
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I didn't think that many people had signed on
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Sorry I muted this server for a second cause I got some kinda bad news yesterday about a legal case.
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Arnold Karr
Like sport fishing-just for the fun of it?
Probably the protocol for being disruptive in the house/senate chambers is just being forcibly removed
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Cyprus
Maybe we should start looking at doing things like civil disobedience as these bills start advancing
Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/30/2023 12:23 PM
i emphatically agree. It's one thing to inconvience people trying to testify, but they're denying us access to the public meetings for these bills. When i went two weeks ago i had to sit in the lobby and wasn't allowed in.
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yeah i think for those types of actions we definately need to build up a bit more structure/get some things in place first
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/30/2023 12:27 PM
that's fair.
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i'm probably going to just, show up and see what happens tomorrow? i understand why you'd be hesitant as like, one of the mods.
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oh i don't think tomorrow is going to be a time for that quite honestly
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this was more for like the next time the bills come up in the house or senate
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/30/2023 12:28 PM
oh yeah
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i'm showing up tommorow to meet up with friends at the capitol. i hope people come.
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seb it/they
yeah i think for those types of actions we definately need to build up a bit more structure/get some things in place first
Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/30/2023 12:29 PM
what structures do you to building up, and how can we help?
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lumenbos (they/he) 03/30/2023 12:30 PM
If we start organizing more for disruptance and disobedience, we should consider using encrypted platforms to plan and communicate as well.
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i think we need more concrete contact and support from dems as discussed in #org-building, i think we need to have access to a bail fund, i think we would need to do pretty extensive planning
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lumenbos (they/he)
If we start organizing more for disruptance and disobedience, we should consider using encrypted platforms to plan and communicate as well.
this already exists :)
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/30/2023 12:31 PM
Bail fund is a good idea
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soda city bail is run by a member of PSL
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which is somewhat of an issue
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seb it/they
soda city bail is run by a member of PSL
Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/30/2023 12:31 PM
psl?
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party for socialism and liberation
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they're a leftist org, but they have some issues with swooping other peoples events, covering up sexual harassment, and anti-indigenous racism
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seb it/they
i think we need more concrete contact and support from dems as discussed in #org-building, i think we need to have access to a bail fund, i think we would need to do pretty extensive planning
Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/30/2023 12:33 PM
what communications should we be sending to try and gain dem allies? should we send senate reps an email saying "thank you for voting against this bill, it's a sham that they didn't let us speak, we'd love to have you at a protest sometime?"
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seb it/they
they're a leftist org, but they have some issues with swooping other peoples events, covering up sexual harassment, and anti-indigenous racism
Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/30/2023 12:33 PM
ah
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/30/2023 12:33 PM
It's ironic they run the bail fund when one of the things they are criticized for is getting ppl arrested.
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/30/2023 12:33 PM
thank u for de-previewing the links
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers)
what communications should we be sending to try and gain dem allies? should we send senate reps an email saying "thank you for voting against this bill, it's a sham that they didn't let us speak, we'd love to have you at a protest sometime?"
i think you should read the convo in #org-building basically we need to meet in person with some specifc reps, i think the first step is sending them emails to coordinate irl meetinsg
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/30/2023 12:35 PM
i took a look at it earlier. i can throw together a spreadsheet of those names and draft emails if that'd help
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i think another thing that would be really important is getting large numbers of people to show up, for example in the kentucky video they mentioned they had 500 people there
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers)
i took a look at it earlier. i can throw together a spreadsheet of those names and draft emails if that'd help
this would be very helpful yes
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/30/2023 12:37 PM
i think even if it were like, 12 of us i'd be okay with it. one idea that came to my head is just, doing a die-in (laying on the floor) during the public comment subcomitte meeting if they don't let us talk. although that may just be me doing an autism. or just, chanting outside iwith a megaphone.
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Chanting outside with a megaphone is useless
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Chanting inside with a megaphone (knowing arrest risks!!!) might be good and disruptive
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Minus megaphone they won’t let us bring that in
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Getting a megaphone in would definitely be a no
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the state house has a pretty good infrastructure in place for making sure that protest is neutralized and doesn't actually do anything
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A die in sounds like a cool idea but that carries about the same risks as being loud inside
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soda city bail is run by a member of PSL
PSL here (and many places tbh) is so inconsistent 😫
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Nah they definitely stick to their party line
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Chanting inside with a megaphone (knowing arrest risks!!!) might be good and disruptive
Having people inside and outside and quiet and loud all at once might be cool. Diversity of tactics and various roles for people with various levels of arrest ability
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also numbers is not necessarily for people doing the most extreme actions, even if a few people are willing to get arrested/high risk action we'd need people willing to come for support
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yes lol glad we're on the same page
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James Harley 03/30/2023 12:42 PM
We’re doing another event thing?
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Getting a megaphone in would definitely be a no
You would be shocked lol
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Nah they definitely stick to their party line
This is true, problem is that their party line is siding with the state over the masses, inaction, and covering up/denying allegations
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Yes precisely
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Olivia
You would be shocked lol
Past the metal detectors and security people? Consider me impressed
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Camryn Aisling 03/30/2023 12:55 PM
Don't need an electronic megaphone, can just use one of those cheer cone things (edited)
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If you're inside, that should be more than enough
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Nova šŸ’• 03/30/2023 12:57 PM
Anyone going to be going to the Greenville event tomorrow?
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Camryn Aisling 03/30/2023 12:57 PM
Also has the advantage of being easily assembled on site with just a sheet of plastic and some tape or something similar
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Anyone going to be going to the Greenville event tomorrow?
A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/30/2023 1:03 PM
@Upstate SC
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jules (she/they) 03/30/2023 1:04 PM
im planning on going, as long as im able to get off work
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Nova šŸ’• 03/30/2023 1:04 PM
Oof my bad
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/30/2023 1:05 PM
Lol don't apologize, you're good. Just helping you out there.
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Nova šŸ’• 03/30/2023 1:05 PM
Omg there’s been 126 shootings this year
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That’s more than the days we had in the years I far
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There’s a shooting 43 minutes ago in
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Also has the advantage of being easily assembled on site with just a sheet of plastic and some tape or something similar
Camryn Aisling 03/30/2023 1:05 PM
Also consider alternative noisemakers like a makeshift rain stick
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Nova šŸ’• 03/30/2023 1:06 PM
Do we expect a lot of opposition?
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In Greenville
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Also consider alternative noisemakers like a makeshift rain stick
robin (they/it) 03/30/2023 1:07 PM
when i was a kid me and my dad made a horn out of vitamin bottles and a balloon it was so fuckin loud .
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Camryn Aisling 03/30/2023 1:08 PM
Yeah
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jules (she/they) 03/30/2023 1:08 PM
i dont think so, nova. i keep pretty good tabs on the local Bad Eggs and havent seen anything
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Nova šŸ’• 03/30/2023 1:09 PM
Okay thanks
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Camryn Aisling 03/30/2023 1:09 PM
I would recommend party poppers, but some of those use gunpowder instead of compressed air, which uhhhhhhh probably isn't a good idea to bring
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There are other methods, but I probably shouldn't share them in public for legal reasons v_
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robin (they/it) 03/30/2023 1:12 PM
i think there is an oat signal
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probably could get in there to share but idk who to ask about that
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Has anyone heard of a tdov thing around Charlotte/Rock hill?
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Past the metal detectors and security people? Consider me impressed
It didn't make it into the Senate chamber but it was close (edited)
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Past the metal detectors and security people? Consider me impressed
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/30/2023 1:43 PM
Its been done : )
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/30/2023 3:17 PM
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Twitter says it has removed thousands of tweets showing a poster promoting a ā€œtrans day of vengeanceā€ protest in support of transgender rights in Washington, D.C., on Saturday.
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this would be very helpful yes
Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/30/2023 3:21 PM
i can compose some emails to these people. is two weeks out a good time to try and meet? should we ask for zoom / in person? are there any bullet points we want to hit in our conversations?
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Hayden (he/they) 03/30/2023 3:25 PM
In person would be more impactful, depends on where you are though
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Slapped this like a month ago lmao
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robin (they/it) 03/30/2023 6:09 PM
the oat ones i have put up have been staying a while too
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Nova šŸ’• 03/30/2023 6:10 PM
I need some for Greenville where do I get them?
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robin (they/it) 03/30/2023 6:10 PM
caboose orders them in bulk and passes them out
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I should have another box in like 2 or 3 days. But I think ima get a couple with my taxes
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Irabella (Leilah)(she/fae) 03/30/2023 6:26 PM
The trans flag being inside the SC outline confuses the chuds. Only the higher level ones can break the spell. (most of the ones I'v thrown up have stayed too)
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/30/2023 6:27 PM
Confusion is the best tactic at our disposal
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I have noticed a lot of half-ripped off trans flags around the USC campus or ones with question marks written on them, glad the oat ones are faring well
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Also true
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tackysapphic 03/30/2023 7:45 PM
there’s flag ones all over campus, I haven’t seen any ripped yet all the ones I’ve seen are in tact
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/30/2023 7:46 PM
salute the troops 🫔
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What people who wear Soviet legacy clothing and equipment to community defenses will be buried in
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/31/2023 9:17 AM
are there safety issues with soviet legacy clothing or is it uncomfortable politics
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are there safety issues with soviet legacy clothing or is it uncomfortable politics
Waste of money. Better served acquiring modern kit
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On top of a heap of other factors. (edited)
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Hayden (he/they) 03/31/2023 9:28 AM
Idk my 6b5 keeps me warm
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That titanium filled thing from the 90's?
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Hayden (he/they) 03/31/2023 9:34 AM
Might be thinking of the sfera
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Sfera is a helmet, 6B5 is a vest
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Hayden (he/they) 03/31/2023 9:36 AM
Yes I understand that, I'm saying you might be thinking of a sfera
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6b5 can usually be found with ceramic tiles
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6B5 or 6B45
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45 is the modern one
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Hayden (he/they) 03/31/2023 9:39 AM
I know what a 6b5 is lol
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And as I recall, I can only think of one person who did something like that at an action
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Huh, I'm only aware of them carrying Titanium
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I use a Slickster with a few other helpful things
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Hayden (he/they)
I know what a 6b5 is lol
Purchased from someone selling their equipment on eBay or Greyshop ?
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Hayden (he/they) 03/31/2023 9:45 AM
I don't actually have one, it's a joke
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But I always feel like equipment is secondary to training and awareness. Sure ergonomics is a benefit for two people on an even playing field, but all the stuff in the world is useless if you don't know how to use it
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Of course
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We've got a sort of... anarchist-ish gun club that does training in a more professional environment
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Hayden (he/they) 03/31/2023 9:50 AM
Although I feel like a trans platoon pulling up in these would scare them off
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Moving and shooting, shooting after running around carrying a heavy weight, etc.
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Also, I could never like the Sfera
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/31/2023 9:52 AM
guns scary. thank you all for arming yourself so i don’t have to (edited)
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Hayden (he/they) 03/31/2023 9:55 AM
I highly recommend everyone do a stop the bleed training and get a trauma kit
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Doesn't require a scary gun, literally anyone can do it
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Yeah closing holes is much more practical and useful knowledge than making them
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Hayden (he/they) 03/31/2023 9:56 AM
Also the digital front, things like Intel and counter-intel are also very important
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On the topic of gear though, check this AK rig out
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Hayden (he/they) 03/31/2023 9:57 AM
Serbian?
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I think it's Bosnian based on the camo pattern
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Hayden (he/they) 03/31/2023 9:57 AM
They love their push snaps over there
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Whole thing is hand made
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Hayden (he/they)
They love their push snaps over there
This thing is definitely.... uniquely made. Note the holster on the left
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Hayden (he/they) 03/31/2023 10:03 AM
A weird one I have is a Kaskad vest from the 90s. It has pockets too small to reasonably hold anything, mag pouches too small, and is paper thin
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A weird one I have is a Kaskad vest from the 90s. It has pockets too small to reasonably hold anything, mag pouches too small, and is paper thin
Kaskad, a classic. I used to use a 6B46 but sold it
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Hayden (he/they) 03/31/2023 10:06 AM
I do still love my smersh, even if it's clunky
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Smersh holds up, still valid
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My oldest piece of equipment comes from my more troublesome edgy teenage days
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South African M83 battle jacket
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I do still love my smersh, even if it's clunky
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Hayden (he/they) 03/31/2023 10:13 AM
Terrible
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Hayden (he/they)
Terrible
It remains in the shame corner of the closet
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Tsk I should add, my particular one is a little redeemed. Buddy used it during his time in the YPG
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Idk where to post this so if it’s not the right spot please tell me
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🚨 🚨 CALL TO ACTION!!!!! šŸ³ļøā€āš§ļøšŸ³ļøā€āš§ļøšŸ³ļøā€āš§ļø If you or someone you love takes testosterone, or if you consider yourself an ally; please read this and leave comments TODAY. The comments close TODAY, March 31st! The DEA is trying to make testosterone harder to get across the board. Starting November 2023 anyone starting testosterone will have to meet in person with a DEA certified clinician in order to get a prescription. This would force many trans men and non binary people to potentially detransition or not have access to their medical care, especially in rural areas where Telehealth is a necessity. ACT NOW!! This would DIRECTLY impact me if passed and allowed in North Carolina! https://getplume.co/blog/act-now-to-protect-transgender-health-care-access/?fbclid=IwAR3t-0Pjy1Pi636T8DLTgcev7E4JApDEBWeQvS99iv6T8pV951oaUFEf1JI
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solvent (they/she) 03/31/2023 11:53 AM
commented, thanks for sharing
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do you guys know of any subtle ways to show for tdov? I have a trans friend in texas that wants to do something while at work but is afraid of her regulars (edited)
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What else can I do to advocate for trans health care access? Many groups, including Plume, are advocating for your access to gender-affirming health care. President Joe Biden, HHS Secretary Xavier Becerra, and your state’s governor have the ability to allow doctors to prescribe testosterone via telemedicine. If you want to advocate for trans health care access, you can reach out to these decision-makers and share your story. Make your voice heard. You can call on our leaders to create additional protections for our community, including making some of the PHE rules permanent.
... Contact your state governor and ask them to protect your health care. https://www.usa.gov/state-governor
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Contact your state's governor or the mayor of the District of Columbia.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/31/2023 2:27 PM
yeah uh
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Headed to the statehouse
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/31/2023 2:27 PM
mcmaster aint doing that
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tackysapphic 03/31/2023 2:28 PM
McMaster is content to sit and laugh as he watches every south carolinian collapse around him. he ain’t doing shit
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McMaster would prefer marginalized people go extinct, it is his ideology
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Actually, no, he prefers watch the suffering
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He's a sick man
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sadly :/ the other option was to contact the president himself lmoa
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lmao
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I’ve met him a few times for various award and/or work things Every time he has to shake my hand he gets this angry/uncomfortable look on his face because I’m taller than him and a femme lil lady when at work (lil lady is a misrepresentation, I’m hovering at a touch over six feet when in bare feet) (edited)
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I consider that a win for the trans agenda
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sadly :/ the other option was to contact the president himself lmoa
Not that the president gives a shit about any of this, their policy is to only do enough to look like they care while allowing the threat to human rights to exist so they can use it for a political reality TV show.
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Fucking hate this country
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tackysapphic 03/31/2023 2:35 PM
this is fully just a power trip on their end to get rid of people they deem ā€œnot realā€ or whatever, they can all go to hell they don’t care about people they care about profit and getting what They want
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What kind of fucking seagull manager did Biden put in charge of the DEA??? They sure are doing a lot to fuck with prescription access
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sadly :/ the other option was to contact the president himself lmoa
this is much more useful than contacting mcmaster tbh
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The difference between emptying the ocean with a bucket rather than a spoon
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🚨 🚨 CALL TO ACTION!!!!! šŸ³ļøā€āš§ļøšŸ³ļøā€āš§ļøšŸ³ļøā€āš§ļø If you or someone you love takes testosterone, or if you consider yourself an ally; please read this and leave comments TODAY. The comments close TODAY, March 31st! The DEA is trying to make testosterone harder to get across the board. Starting November 2023 anyone starting testosterone will have to meet in person with a DEA certified clinician in order to get a prescription. This would force many trans men and non binary people to potentially detransition or not have access to their medical care, especially in rural areas where Telehealth is a necessity. ACT NOW!! This would DIRECTLY impact me if passed and allowed in North Carolina! https://getplume.co/blog/act-now-to-protect-transgender-health-care-access/?fbclid=IwAR3t-0Pjy1Pi636T8DLTgcev7E4JApDEBWeQvS99iv6T8pV951oaUFEf1JI
its at the bottom of the link here!
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The difference between emptying the ocean with a bucket rather than a spoon
Love this tbh
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eh Biden has done some pretty good stuff for trans rights through executive powers, I think it's not impossible that pressure on him here could work
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I doubt Biden has a nice easy contact line that doesn't get sorted through like hell
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fair i just imagine how would he ever see our letters how many underpaid interns they got or what is it
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fair i just imagine how would he ever see our letters how many underpaid interns they got or what is it
yeah that's reasonable I just think at least he can be swayed, whereas McMaster relishes in the opportunnity to take our rights
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eh Biden has done some pretty good stuff for trans rights through executive powers, I think it's not impossible that pressure on him here could work
Biden is good in that he’s better than who he was and will be up against. That’s promising, I hope he will and if you think that’s a good strategy then I trust your judgement, I just don’t hold my breath. Executive actions and power use is temporary and cheap and often simply a tool to push the power of the executive and erode congressional control. He is much more likely to be swayed, but it will be based on what will be good for his career.
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I doubt Biden has a nice easy contact line that doesn't get sorted through like hell
Also this, the higher the office the less likely it is to reach them. It is heavily dependent on the representative, but it’s hard enough to see our state people
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Biden is good in that he’s better than who he was and will be up against. That’s promising, I hope he will and if you think that’s a good strategy then I trust your judgement, I just don’t hold my breath. Executive actions and power use is temporary and cheap and often simply a tool to push the power of the executive and erode congressional control. He is much more likely to be swayed, but it will be based on what will be good for his career.
you're right it is very temporary, but in terms of his career trans rights is more popular than it ever has been before and a majority of Americans now know a trans person, so there's no going back on it. I'm not gonna defend Biden too much, but I think in terms of stuff he'll bend to public pressure on, LGBT stuff is pretty high up the list because it's easy points that liberals love and lets him score progressive points while not having to undermine corporations at all
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If you know any ADHD advocacy groups, might want to forward this to them too because this same rule change does affect ADHD meds, and everyone I know who has been on them more than a year or two has definitely noticed doctors getting more strict about how they are prescribed.
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you're right it is very temporary, but in terms of his career trans rights is more popular than it ever has been before and a majority of Americans now know a trans person, so there's no going back on it. I'm not gonna defend Biden too much, but I think in terms of stuff he'll bend to public pressure on, LGBT stuff is pretty high up the list because it's easy points that liberals love and lets him score progressive points while not having to undermine corporations at all
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/31/2023 2:45 PM
ive been questioning biden on trans rights recently
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i dont understand why he hasnt done anything about the wave of healthcare bans
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back when it was just texas he did a thing or two but now its mostly radio silence
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
i dont understand why he hasnt done anything about the wave of healthcare bans
i dont understand why he hasnt done anything about the wave of healthcare bans
I think this is sort of the root of the issue
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he did a lot of really good pro-trans stuff at the beginning of his term but honestly I feel like he's just completely stalled out momentum wise for a little bit now on most stuff (edited)
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the problem is that he has to deal with the "oh won't someone think of the children 🄺" and while that isn't hard to deal with, ig it isn't high on his priorities (edited)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
back when it was just texas he did a thing or two but now its mostly radio silence
and hasn't been for a while
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/31/2023 2:51 PM
me, the 20 year old child who cant decide my own medical affairs
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i am writing my own response and oh how much I wish I could just tell them that their useless agency should be abolished...
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i dont understand why he hasnt done anything about the wave of healthcare bans
ColorfulKnoll 03/31/2023 3:17 PM
Alot of his attempts have been blocked by trump appointed judges, so it's likely he gave up
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Last thing he did was virtue signal to congress to pass an act
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Hey, so I work at DHEC and I’m currently in a town hall thing with the director. Do y’all think there’s anyway I could help by talking to him/have any questions I may could ask? (edited)
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Irabella (Leilah)(she/fae) 03/31/2023 3:39 PM
Dems (nationally) are expecting the courts to do most of the heavy lifting right now. They expect the "sound judgment of the bench" to do the work, just like they did before Obergefell v. Hodges.
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Hayden (he/they) 03/31/2023 3:59 PM
That's one thing that I think is important to press with any meeting with dem politicians: ask them specifically what the strategy is for dealing with these bills
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They will be all too happy to "see and hear" us, but we shouldnt accept that as an answer
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Yoo. I just talked to the director of DHEC. He gave me his info so we can set up a meeting for next week to talk about what DHEC is doing about these bills. He’s seems pretty open to hearing what I have to say so I’m hoping some good could maybe come of it
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well, i just gave the DEA a long rant about all of the issues I already face getting my medication and the fucking audacity they must have to think it needs to be harder for me and others (in much more polite terms)
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robin (they/it) 03/31/2023 4:24 PM
some one at the state house events asked me to share these
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cade (he/him) 03/31/2023 4:36 PM
they gave those out at the meet at the statehouse too! i already emailed them about oat but they haven’t gotten back to me
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robin (they/it) 03/31/2023 4:37 PM
i think a bunch of the people running it are already in here but i gave the person who gave me the flyer the qr code
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Hope all is well at the state house! Been in nonstop classes or meetings today, but I strapped on my six inch platforms for extra trans visibility to compensate
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well, i just gave the DEA a long rant about all of the issues I already face getting my medication and the fucking audacity they must have to think it needs to be harder for me and others (in much more polite terms)
A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/31/2023 5:09 PM
Me too!
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Felt cathartic at the very least.
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James Harley 03/31/2023 7:44 PM
I need jobs, side hustles, stat!!! If anyone knows who’s hiring for whatever dm me immediately!
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James Harley 03/31/2023 8:16 PM
Wait, I know one never mind
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Hi everyone! Sorry I havent been more active, but y'all should come to this amazing event at Clemson if you can!
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Would you like me to make this a discord event ?
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yes please!
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I'll be there, albeit around 7:45 bc I'm on-call until then (im an RA)
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I'll be there, albeit around 7:45 bc I'm on-call until then (im an RA)
Hey hey, same here ✨ currently bored at a desk contemplating my life choices
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yes please!
event has been made! you can click interested and look at the tab to see an estimated turnout
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Hey hey, same here ✨ currently bored at a desk contemplating my life choices
been there for sure
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AsterTheDisaster 03/31/2023 10:42 PM
Ill be there tabling for my org šŸ™‚ come say hi
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āš ļø Important collective announcement! Please read! After nearly 15 years as a worker-owned project, we've made the difficult decision to move away from the collective model. There were simply too many meetings, too many needs and opinions to balance. It all came to a head at our general meeting this week during a particularly heated collective...
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@robin (they/it) can I dm you
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robin (they/it) 04/01/2023 4:01 PM
yeah
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We balkanizing in here?
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I'm otw, I'll be the guy in the tan Clemson pride shitt and jorts; I'd love to meet some of y'all in-person today!
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seb it/they 04/02/2023 8:12 AM
Reading "the future is disabled" and really enjoying it
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Hayden (he/they) 04/02/2023 11:20 AM
Hey @everyone ! Thanks to @Kiral we have some new OAT merch. We aren't sure yet what to do with them yet, but I have the boxes full of samples at mine.
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Dingo (they/them) 04/02/2023 11:20 AM
Huh!
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woahhh
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Hayden (he/they) 04/02/2023 11:21 AM
The candle is nothing scented
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Victor (they/them) 04/02/2023 11:21 AM
Trans palmetto tree is gorgeous!
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Dingo (they/them) 04/02/2023 11:21 AM
It really is. I think it'd look cute against an off white-pinkish background if we ever make a shirt for it.
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How do we get our hands on this merch?!
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Hey @everyone ! Thanks to @Kiral we have some new OAT merch. We aren't sure yet what to do with them yet, but I have the boxes full of samples at mine.
these would be good to use for a fundraiser
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Dingo (they/them) 04/02/2023 11:22 AM
The candle is either t or e scented it government assigns you a gender before it ships off--
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Hayden (he/they) 04/02/2023 11:22 AM
We talked about it at prep today, we can probably hand them out at in person things as a thank you for showing up, or we could use them to fundraise for a particular project
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Dingo (they/them) 04/02/2023 11:22 AM
I love that idea omg
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Later down the line it'd be a good fundraiser
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I’m Charleston county based, but I’d pay for shipping if y’all used them for fundraising
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Hayden (he/they) 04/02/2023 11:24 AM
The ones with OAT on them also come with a metal straw
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Hayden (he/they)
Hey @everyone ! Thanks to @Kiral we have some new OAT merch. We aren't sure yet what to do with them yet, but I have the boxes full of samples at mine.
Amazing! I could for one use the water bottle
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Hayden (he/they) 04/02/2023 12:13 PM
I am of the opinion that @Kiral should drop their Venmo or something for these. I don't have a whole lot of bottles and candles, but I imagine they take resources to make and we should incentivize more being made (edited)
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Hayden (he/they)
Hey @everyone ! Thanks to @Kiral we have some new OAT merch. We aren't sure yet what to do with them yet, but I have the boxes full of samples at mine.
I didn't know /exactly/ what yallmart was so I just made em in case they were applicaple lmao. There's white versions of the bottle and tumbler as well as the SC logo and palmetto in the other color ^^
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I am of the opinion that @Kiral should drop their Venmo or something for these. I don't have a whole lot of bottles and candles, but I imagine they take resources to make and we should incentivize more being made (edited)
I'm good not getting money. These are things I make at work so I just uhhh made em lol
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Hayden (he/they) 04/02/2023 12:18 PM
Yeah it's up to you, I just feel like you deserve it
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Hayden (he/they) 04/02/2023 8:23 PM
So an idea I had during to social media meeting is to host photoshoots for trans people in the area. It would be a way to humanize trans people and photograph them on their terms so to speak. I want to do it in 35mm, but I have a DSLR as well. If anyone would like to participate, feel free to dm. (reposted from #social-media )
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seb it/they 04/02/2023 8:24 PM
we could set it up as a mutual aid event maybe?
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Hayden (he/they) 04/02/2023 8:24 PM
I am willing to travel to people, so dont feel like you have to be in Columbia to participate. Like I said in the other chat, I do have a roll still left to shoot
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we could set it up as a mutual aid event maybe?
Hayden (he/they) 04/02/2023 8:24 PM
Thats not a bad idea, I'll add it to the agenda for tomorrow
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Omg look how they packed it this time, it's like half the size the last box was and so satisfying
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Dingo (they/them) 04/02/2023 10:17 PM
pbpbpbpb i'm normal i'm better
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okok hi hello yes i'm alive-- how are you all tonight
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Ehhh
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Dingo (they/them) 04/02/2023 10:18 PM
same
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Hailey (she/they) 04/02/2023 10:19 PM
I am ~vibing~
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I made oatmeal bars though
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Dingo (they/them) 04/02/2023 10:19 PM
oooo
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Lol I am coping with the world by baking a lot
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Dingo (they/them) 04/02/2023 10:19 PM
omg... transcolored oatmeal bars/cakey type things...
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that's such a good idea...
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but i'm glad someone is vibing
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Oo those would be cute
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/02/2023 10:21 PM
im doing alright
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the week was stressful so im glad ive had a weekend to chill
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Dingo (they/them) 04/02/2023 10:24 PM
yaaay
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ironically today was supposed to be my rest day but my brain had other plans ig adklsfhlkjhdf
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AsterTheDisaster 04/02/2023 10:40 PM
I have two exams tomorrow 😭 and of course I just had to be pushed into drama and had a whole emotional freak out this weekend. But at least I studied a bit before everything so hopefully my memory works 🤣
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Dingo (they/them) 04/02/2023 11:06 PM
god i'm so sorry gl to you :\
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Dingo (they/them) 04/02/2023 11:50 PM
no longer crying for bad reasons now crying bc i'm healing the little cracks with cheesy 60s romance music :))
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Lynnie (she/her) 04/03/2023 9:14 AM
@Upstate SC y'all.....
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oh hell no
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Lynnie (she/her) 04/03/2023 9:14 AM
Would love some creative input and organize something.
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Hailey (she/they) 04/03/2023 9:15 AM
•_•
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seb it/they 04/03/2023 9:15 AM
do we know the venue?
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Lynnie (she/her) 04/03/2023 9:15 AM
No details yet. I imagine they will play close to chest
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So it'll need to be mobile and flexible
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/03/2023 9:16 AM
Spartanburg Spartanburging
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If it's a campaign event, I'd imagine the auditorium but yeah we'll have to see
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god why couldn't him running for president stay as a worst case scenario joke
10:03
I'd be willing to drive others to spartanburg from clemson to do a protest on site if that happens anytime (edited)
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/03/2023 10:11 AM
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it's always him..
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/03/2023 10:12 AM
literally
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Roman
god why couldn't him running for president stay as a worst case scenario joke
Camryn Aisling 04/03/2023 10:17 AM
Because the other worst case joke might be in prison
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/03/2023 10:23 AM
i wonder like, what gets republican lawmakers to not pass bills (edited)
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is it buisness interests? fear of harrassment? belief that their base would be upset?
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i like, if these people are going to be anti-democratic and not listen to us in committees, it makes me want to examine more guerrilla approaches
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Camryn Aisling 04/03/2023 10:25 AM
Money, generally
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/03/2023 10:26 AM
but like, what corporation is telling them to focus on shitting on trans people?
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Lynnie (she/her) 04/03/2023 10:27 AM
They're not - it's groups like Palmetto Family Council, Heritage Foundation, etc
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/03/2023 10:27 AM
hehe i love that the !! emoji is called bangbang, silly bash reference
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Lynnie (she/her) 04/03/2023 10:27 AM
And then they throw bones to corporations so they give their money too
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Churches EXPECT their parishioners to give no less than 10% of their income to the church. Those churches give a portion of that money to their cooperative orgs (like the SC Baptist Convention), and then those orgs give to PFC, Focus on the Family, etc. A lot of money comes from corps, but religious think tanks own most of these guys.
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/03/2023 10:30 AM
interesting
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is this like, collections basket funding?
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Camryn Aisling 04/03/2023 10:31 AM
I've been out of the loop on the money trail for a while, but isn't charles koch still an extremely active donor
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Lynnie (she/her) 04/03/2023 10:32 AM
Basically. Last year, Tony Beam from SC Baptist Convention effectively walked up to the podium for the trans sports ban and said "This is what we are paying you for" and sat back down
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Camryn Aisling
I've been out of the loop on the money trail for a while, but isn't charles koch still an extremely active donor
Camryn Aisling 04/03/2023 10:33 AM
Or did that stop once his brother died
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Irabella (Leilah)(she/fae) 04/03/2023 10:34 AM
Evangelical Churches tend to be money laundering centers for funs to secretly move from the rich to political action. Lobbyists often, in general, just hand local and fed politicians whole cloth bills that are often presented with no alteration to the legislative committees .
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Camryn Aisling
Or did that stop once his brother died
Irabella (Leilah)(she/fae) 04/03/2023 10:35 AM
No the surviving Koch Dragon still funnels money to thinktanks, online commentators, and politicians.
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Camryn Aisling 04/03/2023 10:36 AM
Koch Dragon is a good term
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Lynnie (she/her)
@Upstate SC y'all.....
robin (they/it) 04/03/2023 11:30 AM
can you link the post
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robin (they/it) 04/03/2023 11:32 AM
read the replies it gets funnier
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Nico (she/her) 04/03/2023 11:32 AM
JFWFJTS
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"i think you have to worship trump to be considered conservative"
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lolll
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TBH fascist infighting might be the thing that saves us
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robin (they/it) 04/03/2023 11:36 AM
"keep relying as this could become quite comical"
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Hailey (she/they) 04/03/2023 11:37 AM
True, trump insulting desantis was literally one of the best things that could have happened
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it threw people like my dad for a loop lol
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Dingo (they/them) 04/03/2023 12:21 PM
it's cause ppl too lost in the sauce usually can't recognise people like trump just care about themselves. Not whatever weird righteous crusade they keep projecting onto him lol
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it'd be funny if it weren't sad
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cw: (legal) question regarding firearms Does anyone know any queer friendly or leftist gun shops that I could purchase a hand gun from in SC or online? I really dont want to support Palmetto State Armory or other chud shops
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Dingo (they/them) 04/03/2023 12:40 PM
unfortunately I can't think of anything off the top of my head? Cause in cola I know everyone usually hits up places like dicks and ace's sporting goods for guns. (edited)
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Yeah that makes the most sense for me rn
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Palmetto state armory is a disgusting institution
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Dingo (they/them) 04/03/2023 12:41 PM
yeye cause it might be going to a big corp but at least it's not going directly to the pocket of like. A small business willing to shell out for the NRA y'know?
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>:P god don't get me started
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I remember when I was a student journalist I wrote an article on like. The history of guns in America. It's kinda interesting, cause the NRA started out as a militia group meant to teach people how to shoot in case we ever have another civil war
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now look at em :,))
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Before i transitioned i went to PSA with my chud brother a couple times and i felt so out of place and now apparently they sell shirts that say like "keep gender ideology out of schools"
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WhichWitch17 04/03/2023 12:42 PM
old habits die hard i guess
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Dingo (they/them) 04/03/2023 12:42 PM
YIIIIIIKES
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WhichWitch17 04/03/2023 12:42 PM
thats uh- that sure is something
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i truly do not wish to know anyone who would wear those shirts in public
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Dingo (they/them) 04/03/2023 12:43 PM
frfr
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WhichWitch17 04/03/2023 12:43 PM
or just in general
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Nico (she/her) 04/03/2023 12:43 PM
Idk their politics but sportmans warehouse might also be a good option
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Im gonna hit up dicks today on the way to work and see if they have anything in stock but i think the other outdoors shops in charleston closed
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Nico (she/her) 04/03/2023 12:44 PM
any idea what you plan on getting
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/03/2023 12:45 PM
I thought Dick's stopped selling them years ago? šŸ¤”šŸ¤”
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But, also, this conversation might be more suitable for #deleted-channel
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Ah didnt see
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ty
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/03/2023 5:07 PM
hey question
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anyone here a tax laywer?
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If someone would like to add to events, this is coming up tomorrow. Some of us from YDSA are going to this for a bit and then heading to the actual event to push back against her reactionary ideology. Fyi you have to get tickets beforehand (you can look up "Candace Owens Clemson" and find them)
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/03/2023 5:07 PM
i'm looking at the palmetto family org, and they're registered as a 501c3, which would seem to prohibit them from like, endorsing certain candidates or engaging in lobbying
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which like,
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i don't know if this qualifies as an endorsement but there's a bunch of stuff on the website that makes me go "hey maybe this isn't an educational charity"
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robin (they/it) 04/03/2023 5:14 PM
@YoBecca is a public defender and might know a tax lawyer idk
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Drew
If someone would like to add to events, this is coming up tomorrow. Some of us from YDSA are going to this for a bit and then heading to the actual event to push back against her reactionary ideology. Fyi you have to get tickets beforehand (you can look up "Candace Owens Clemson" and find them)
seb it/they 04/03/2023 5:39 PM
@Organizer
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Oh nvm I read the graphic
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Dingo (they/them) 04/03/2023 5:46 PM
omg that's a 2 hour drive
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dammit
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I absolutely would but I don't feel safe driving out that far without at least having someone with me ://
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Dingo (they/them)
I absolutely would but I don't feel safe driving out that far without at least having someone with me ://
I should have room in my car if you wanna join me; I'm leaving from Clemson
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Dingo (they/them) 04/03/2023 6:52 PM
Sorry are you suggesting coming out and grabbing me or??? Sorry I'm multi tasking dklfjhsjlk
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Hayden (he/they) 04/03/2023 7:02 PM
I understood it as a craft and gossip circle
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Robin was interested in organizng it as well
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the stitch n bitch?
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Hayden (he/they) 04/03/2023 7:08 PM
Yes sorry I put that in the wrong chat
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do you guys know of any other organizations like this one for other states? im mainly thinking for ga and texas
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Dingo (they/them) 04/03/2023 7:10 PM
Immediately for Georgia the rainbow house in Atlanta comes to mind
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I cant remember their name but they organize the Atlanta pride parades
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thank you!
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Dingo (they/them) 04/03/2023 7:11 PM
They also offer resources for youngsters who might be homeless or in danger
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Mhm
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im an out of state student from ga, so im hoping to find something there
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i have a friend in tx that's very interested in a group like this, so i was wondering if anyone knows of one
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Roman
im an out of state student from ga, so im hoping to find something there
robin (they/it) 04/03/2023 7:58 PM
same we need a ga chapter of oat
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Hayden (he/they) 04/03/2023 7:59 PM
goat?
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robin (they/it) 04/03/2023 8:00 PM
goat !!!!
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To confront the legislative assault on trans freedom, we must shift from a discourse of rights to create the conditions for gender self-determination.
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Hayden (he/they)
goat?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/03/2023 10:30 PM
GOAT
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Hailey (she/they) 04/03/2023 10:30 PM
OMG THATS THE BEST THING EVER
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Hayden (he/they) 04/03/2023 10:31 PM
Do goats eat oats?
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robin (they/it) 04/03/2023 10:31 PM
yes
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/03/2023 10:37 PM
starting a new org named GOAT but it stands for Gotta Organize Against Transgenderism
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because GOATs eat OATs
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BenjaminIsaac 04/03/2023 10:38 PM
i think they’re going for Georgia Organize Against Transphobia
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Png can be part of a logo
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Hayden (he/they) 04/03/2023 10:39 PM
I think black phillip should be the mascot
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Trans icon
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BenjaminIsaac
i think they’re going for Georgia Organize Against Transphobia
That makes us SCOAT and that's an interesting term Don't love the sound of it
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I'd put that on the back end of a Ram Pickup
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WhichWitch17 04/03/2023 10:47 PM
Honestly that goes hard
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Bernie
That makes us SCOAT and that's an interesting term Don't love the sound of it
COAT just for Carolina
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regan-they
COAT just for Carolina
Oh boo, Georgia gets their own and we have to share with our upstairs neighbours? lame
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i actually recon we absorb them
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Return to Carolina
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Too many states anyways
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Caboose
I'd put that on the back end of a Ram Pickup
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/03/2023 10:48 PM
yes but it should just be georgia organize against transphobia
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that way its an org
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The United State
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Bernie
Oh boo, Georgia gets their own and we have to share with our upstairs neighbours? lame
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/03/2023 10:48 PM
do you really wanna be SCOAT
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BenjaminIsaac 04/03/2023 10:48 PM
i think as the OGs we can stay with just OAT
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
yes but it should just be georgia organize against transphobia
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/03/2023 10:49 PM
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
do you really wanna be SCOAT
.... The Original Organise Against Transphobia TOOAT alternatively, we turn to the dark side and be The Original Organising Transphobia a lil TOOT
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Hayden (he/they) 04/03/2023 10:49 PM
Flood the statehouse with real livestock as a form of protest
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I have been called a child for my comment and I do not care
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Hayden (he/they) 04/03/2023 10:49 PM
Real OAT vs Provisional OAT
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BenjaminIsaac
i think as the OGs we can stay with just OAT
As the originals, South Carolina REEEAAALLLYYY Organizes Against Transphobia... SCROAT
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Good evening everyone
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I have jury duty tomorrow
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/03/2023 10:50 PM
we need to partner more with the local quakers
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Priest
I have jury duty tomorrow
Declare them innocent, or fuck up the trial some how
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/03/2023 10:50 PM
then we can call ourselves quaker OAT
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
we need to partner more with the local quakers
Hayden (he/they) 04/03/2023 10:50 PM
Arnold is great resource for them
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Florida could be FLOAT
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When they ask me if I have any biases that will proclude me from being an impartial juror, I am tempted to say
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
then we can call ourselves quaker OAT
GOAT SCROAT FLOAT
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"I am a radical anarchist militant, I fucking hate cops and judges and state structures. I spit on every government vehicle I see regardless of it's function. I hate BMW owners, I want to drive Kias off the road. If I find this person goes 60 along the I-95 in the left lane I will pull out a pistol in court and kill them myself."
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GOAT SCROAT FLOAT
Signature chilled beverage, like neopolitan, cept with HRT
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/03/2023 10:54 PM
OAT's engineering department will get right on infusing a milkshake with hormones
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AsterTheDisaster 04/03/2023 10:55 PM
now with ya'll talking about oats I'm hungry again
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I started using MSG as salt
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and it's made me violent
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AsterTheDisaster 04/03/2023 10:56 PM
Currently on slide 25 of a presentation and regretting all life choices
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I used to be such a level headed, peaceful individual
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/03/2023 10:56 PM
oat is so much better than the group's original name tbh (edited)
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OATSCS243 (edited)
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AsterTheDisaster 04/03/2023 10:56 PM
what.
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S242 must be some kinda bill
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AsterTheDisaster 04/03/2023 10:57 PM
ohhhhhhh
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that makes sense (edited)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/03/2023 10:58 PM
yeah it was for s243 or whatever
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remember when there was only one bill yall : /
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AsterTheDisaster 04/03/2023 10:59 PM
It's like they're obsessed or something
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
remember when there was only one bill yall : /
ah yes, the bad-but-less-bad-than-now-somehow old days
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AsterTheDisaster 04/03/2023 11:01 PM
me just existing who can't even remember to shower some days: 🤷 state legislator: look at this dangerous trans person who's going to indoctrinate everyone we must stop them
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AsterTheDisaster
me just existing who can't even remember to shower some days: 🤷 state legislator: look at this dangerous trans person who's going to indoctrinate everyone we must stop them
also I just read your bio! we’re both in earth sciences šŸ˜Ž
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AsterTheDisaster 04/03/2023 11:12 PM
lol I forgot bios exist (edited)
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yeah im studying geology. Planning on going into a student affairs masters program after graduation tho. Kinda feel like a traitor lol
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no don’t feel that way, it’s your life and your education take control!
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i have like a middle of the road idea what I want to do (I’m environmental studies) but yknow 🤷
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AsterTheDisaster 04/03/2023 11:19 PM
oooh I love environmental science
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I have a field trip this week will definitely send photos here
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regan-they
also I just read your bio! we’re both in earth sciences šŸ˜Ž
Earth scientists support social revolution for sustainability purposes
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
remember when there was only one bill yall : /
yea :/
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robin (they/it) 04/04/2023 7:02 PM
should i make a guide to robin reaction emojis or do yall get it ?
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robin (they/it)
should i make a guide to robin reaction emojis or do yall get it ?
Please, document your genius
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robin (they/it)
should i make a guide to robin reaction emojis or do yall get it ?
only one i'm confused about is šŸŽ·
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robin (they/it) 04/04/2023 8:17 PM
all emotion get boiled down to rad, glad, mad, and zad so each has an emoji . 🦓 (rad) because bones are rad, šŸ’ˆ (glad) because i love barber poles, šŸŽ· (mad) because saxophones make me mad, šŸ„„ (zad) because i have a complicated relationship with spoons and they make me zad
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AsterTheDisaster 04/04/2023 8:21 PM
I never have enough spoons
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yeah ive been confused on the spoons and barber poles
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seb it/they 04/04/2023 8:40 PM
I thought you were using spoons in like a spoon theory way
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Which is how I use them
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robin (they/it) 04/04/2023 8:41 PM
no i just have spoon beef
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robin (they/it)
all emotion get boiled down to rad, glad, mad, and zad so each has an emoji . 🦓 (rad) because bones are rad, šŸ’ˆ (glad) because i love barber poles, šŸŽ· (mad) because saxophones make me mad, šŸ„„ (zad) because i have a complicated relationship with spoons and they make me zad
can you further expound on the rad/glad/mad/zad compass?
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Nico (she/her) 04/04/2023 8:42 PM
What does zad mean
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ColorfulKnoll 04/04/2023 8:42 PM
What did Saxophones do?
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Nico (she/her)
What does zad mean
robin (they/it) 04/04/2023 8:42 PM
sad but zaxbys
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what the fuck
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ColorfulKnoll
What did Saxophones do?
robin (they/it) 04/04/2023 8:42 PM
they are annoying
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robin (they/it)
sad but zaxbys
Nico (she/her) 04/04/2023 8:42 PM
Now I'm more confused
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seb it/they 04/04/2023 8:43 PM
So true
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robin (they/it)
no i just have spoon beef
you eat beef with a spoon? or is it a spoon made out of beef /j
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BenjaminIsaac 04/04/2023 8:44 PM
it’s a beef made out of spoons
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BenjaminIsaac
it’s a beef made out of spoons
thanks for clarifying
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ColorfulKnoll 04/04/2023 8:45 PM
A cultured meal
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Nico (she/her)
Now I'm more confused
robin (they/it) 04/04/2023 8:46 PM
zaxbys had good marketing for their chichen zalads and then i started replacing some of the Ss im my speech with Zs but only zad and zandals stuck ...
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confusion
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robin (they/it) 04/04/2023 8:50 PM
get good lol idk it all makes sense to me
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robin (they/it)
sad but zaxbys
Camryn Aisling 04/04/2023 9:00 PM
I intuitively understand this
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Nico (she/her) 04/04/2023 9:01 PM
I can appreciate the vibes based emoji usage
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BenjaminIsaac 04/04/2023 9:02 PM
I thought the barber pole was universal in here because it always got so many reacts and I didn’t get it but I was afraid to ask
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Nico (she/her) 04/04/2023 9:02 PM
I think once robin reacted with it people just joined in
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robin (they/it) 04/04/2023 9:02 PM
im just a trend setter šŸ’ā€ā™€ļø
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seb it/they
I thought you were using spoons in like a spoon theory way
i though that too
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BenjaminIsaac
I thought the barber pole was universal in here because it always got so many reacts and I didn’t get it but I was afraid to ask
i just started picking up on robin's emote dialect and thought it was fun
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robin (they/it)
they are annoying
Saxophones are so nice we need Ska music 😮
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robin (they/it) 04/04/2023 10:47 PM
i have known 2 people who played sax they were both incredibly annoying. and one of them was my civinomics teacher who gave me very adult comics at the age of 13/14 which was weird ... but they were really good comics
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my step dad plays the sax
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and he is an army lawyer...i think the sax emoji is appropriate
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counterpoint: wayne shorter is pretty cool
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I'll attach videos and pics from yesterday's event later, including my grilling of Candace Owens on Palestine. Don't let me forget!
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Lynnie (she/her)
They're not - it's groups like Palmetto Family Council, Heritage Foundation, etc
Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/05/2023 10:39 AM
I've been looking into this group recently & compiling my research in a wiki-like document. It's still a work in progress, but i feel pretty happy with what i have so far to share. Later this week, i should have a letter to the IRS drafted along with a completed a "form 13909" (the "Tax-Exempt Organization Complaint" form), requesting that the IRS audit the PFC's non-profit status as an "educational foundation". Once i have the letter drafted i'll post it here if people want to read it and cosign.
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Please post here if there is anything else we can do to help you
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/05/2023 11:25 AM
Definitley! thank y'all for help
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community work cool
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/05/2023 11:44 AM
actually! if anyone can find more breadcrumbs about the 504(c)4 Palmetto Family Alliance, can you shoot me a dm? i'm trying to find their tax returns and ther tax identification number
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actually! if anyone can find more breadcrumbs about the 504(c)4 Palmetto Family Alliance, can you shoot me a dm? i'm trying to find their tax returns and ther tax identification number
@legislature research
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Dingo (they/them) 04/05/2023 1:48 PM
fun fact whenever I hear/see something really stupid it's aggravating my back starts hurting
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So I'm making a video on a certain tatertot and you can only imagine the pains
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AsterTheDisaster 04/05/2023 2:12 PM
I feel you. My chronic pain flares up with anger/stress too.
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I feel you. My chronic pain flares up with anger/stress too.
Dingo (they/them) 04/05/2023 2:26 PM
Omg I thought that was just a me thing akldfjgjlskhdf It's funny, I only recently kinda started accepting the fact that like-- yes I have chronic pain even if i don't really notice it. So I'm like learning new things all the time. I have lower spinal lordosis! My spine is really shallow in my back so if you press down it gives sharp needle pains
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/05/2023 2:29 PM
I have finally started to make some progress on treating my chronic pain after about 8 years and holy hell it's amazing
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cade (he/him) 04/05/2023 2:35 PM
i’m finally meeting with someone who works on shows with the capital club tonight to see if they could make a fundraiser happen, for WAF’s trans love fund. i’m gonna have our emails with WAF and their openness to collab on fundraisers on hand; but is there anything else i should know just to make sure i make the best use of the meeting?
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seb it/they 04/05/2023 2:37 PM
You should probably contact the leader of WAF
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I think they are in here?
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i’m finally meeting with someone who works on shows with the capital club tonight to see if they could make a fundraiser happen, for WAF’s trans love fund. i’m gonna have our emails with WAF and their openness to collab on fundraisers on hand; but is there anything else i should know just to make sure i make the best use of the meeting?
Sam McKenzie (Han D. Mann) has a show tonight for Gouda Judy’s Wildcard Wednesdays at CC, they might know more about capital club meeting stuff, or I could put you in contact with Gouda or another queen on the CC rotation if they’re willing to answer questions (they’re all super sweet and love to help out the community) (edited)
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Also fun show tonight, I can’t get in that damn club yet but dying to see Honey Dew one of these days
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cade (he/him) 04/05/2023 2:44 PM
i’m actually doing the meeting with sam and it’s gouda we’re talking to!
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i’m also excited to see honey dew perform, i don’t think i have yet
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Gouda is a delight and a pleasure to work with, you’re going to do great.
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cade (he/him) 04/05/2023 2:45 PM
thank you!
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You should probably contact the leader of WAF
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oh wait would you happen to know their name?
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seb it/they 04/05/2023 2:50 PM
@druggerio
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cade (he/him) 04/05/2023 2:52 PM
gotcha, thank you! i’ll dm them to make sure i don’t miss anything
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Yall seen the April 18th "Protest for everything" nationwide stuff?
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Just more performative liberal shit to protest for the sake of protesting
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we need change, and we have to act to get it. gather at your state capital on the 18th and protest. #april18 #abortionrights #guncontrolsaveschildrenslives #icwa #transrights #costofliving #universalhealthcare #revolution #womensrights #equalrights #protest
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We're protesting for #revolution sibs!
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Eh, who has the time to protest? May as well get it all out of the way at once so you don’t have to worry about it anymore
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Hailey (she/they) 04/05/2023 5:01 PM
Exactly! Big brain energy is protesting everything for like an hour so you don’t have to do it again for the rest of the year.
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The least effective actions get the most participants because they require the least work and risk. Fucking liberals
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Some liberals mentioned April 18th to me when I mentioned this Saturday šŸ™ƒ
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"Trans rights, but make red flag laws to disarm them." "Revolution, but disarmed" "SAFE SCHOOLS" -says the anti-gun activists, anti-crt, and don't say gay activists all together Reminds me of that bullshit "antiviolence" demonstration a few months back Willow project and activists show up for both sides (edited)
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Exactly! Big brain energy is protesting everything for like an hour so you don’t have to do it again for the rest of the year.
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/05/2023 5:06 PM
just like mutual aid
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feed the homeless 1 day a year and then fuck off
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definitely works that way /j
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"I don't agree with everything, but I do agree with a few people here on this one thing" says the liberal, nazi, terf, etc.
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yea this reads as a #generalstrike type thing
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yea this reads as a #generalstrike type thing
Some of the ppl in the comments were saying general strike 🤣🤣🤣
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Leftist meme incoming [lots of text]
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Fucking hate the monthly calls for general strike, because like they never actually come into fruition, but people do play it out and ruin/lose their lives from playing along with some "leftist influencer"
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But... even though I know it's performative liberal bullshit.... ima still go and talk to people, maybe we should pass off a couple pamphlets, stickers, books, etc.
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Hailey (she/they) 04/05/2023 5:18 PM
I also love how there is no time. You are supposed to just follow your heart.
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I also love how there is no time. You are supposed to just follow your heart.
If you ever press any of the people "declaring" this, they'll say "talk to your local activists" or "you're just mad at people actually doing stuff" and I'm just like but I am my local activists, that's me and nothing is arranged lmao
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I always ask "general strikers" where I can sign up for strike funds/support so I can participate 🤣
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/06/2023 10:25 AM
critique is cool when it gets people to improve their tactics, methods, etc, but it often feels like online discourse is just critique for critique’s sake. i think that this response (if given unironically) is way cooler than telling them to fuck off; you’re telling them that you’re aligned with their goals, but asking them to like, follow thru and actually organize something
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/06/2023 10:35 AM
like i dunno. in 2020 we had someone stand up in front of a giant crowd saying ā€œwe can’t just fight the cops, we need to go back and organizeā€. but like, that organizer didn’t say what needed to be organized. he could have said that we needed bail funds, black block clothes, elected leaders, whatever. instead he basically just gave a reverse pep talk. from what i remember, our momentum fizzled out really shortly afterwards. and like, i’m kindof scared of that happening to protest groups like this.
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my goal is that this is never just a "protest group" but like an acutual community of people that takes care of each other, idk if that's where we're at yet but eventually
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Finally had some time to make the post about my grilling of Candace Owens on Israeli genocide of Palestine. Here it is!šŸ‡µšŸ‡øšŸ‡µšŸ‡øšŸ‡µšŸ‡ø https://www.instagram.com/reel/CqtR5Q4gkva/?igshid=ZGVhYjU3OTE=
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Finally had some time to make the post about my grilling of Candace Owens on Israeli genocide of Palestine. Here it is!šŸ‡µšŸ‡øšŸ‡µšŸ‡øšŸ‡µšŸ‡ø https://www.instagram.com/reel/CqtR5Q4gkva/?igshid=ZGVhYjU3OTE=
long well spoken question "um i dont know, and i dont like ad hominem attacks. good bye"
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Hey everyone, it is International Asexuality Day and I just wanted to throw some love and support to any and all ace friends and comrades here. I'm demisexual/grey asexual myself and only realized that a few years ago. Hope everyone has a great day ^^
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Hailey (she/they) 04/06/2023 5:05 PM
Asexual superiority šŸ’Æ
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long well spoken question "um i dont know, and i dont like ad hominem attacks. good bye"
haha exactly!
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Camryn Aisling 04/06/2023 6:45 PM
TW: transphobic sports bans Biden fucked us again https://fxtwitter.com/ErinInTheMorn/status/1644086884316971008
Biden just betrayed the trans community. Biden allows trans athlete bans if it is "important to achieving an educational objective" and "minimizes harms to the athlete" Specifically, allows bans that: - Use gender markers - Use physical exams - Other "sex-related criteria"
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robin (they/it) 04/06/2023 6:45 PM
L us
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/06/2023 6:46 PM
fuck you too biden
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Fuck Joe Biden
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ColorfulKnoll 04/06/2023 7:01 PM
Physical exams? Did he just say genital checking was okay? (edited)
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robin (they/it) 04/06/2023 7:03 PM
but how else will they know about the secret dicks ? /s
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comrade kalia (she/her) 04/06/2023 7:13 PM
cw: parents, emotional abuse wish me and my gf luck they’re going to confront their abusive cunt of a mother
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Hey all!
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seb it/they 04/06/2023 7:30 PM
Hii
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Using leftover chinese takeout white rice w/ Japanese Vermont Hot Curry w/ potatoes and mushrooms
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to make curry rice
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seb it/they 04/06/2023 7:33 PM
Oh yummy
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For the potluck, if I come to one... what kinda shit do I bring, what if I'm dogshit at cooking and wanna buy something
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Hayden (he/they) 04/06/2023 8:02 PM
Bring a Pepsi
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I will bring a Coke and Dr pepper to the next one lmao
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Hayden (he/they) 04/06/2023 8:07 PM
"your momma brings Pepsi to the potluck" is an old southern insult
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I am a 30 year old kid, I bring paper plates and drinks lmao
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I will probably bring mashed potatoes w/ chili oil and chopped green onion
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well, would
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dino nuggets are a queer crowd pleaser
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"your momma brings Pepsi to the potluck" is an old southern insult
things like this are why i like being born and raised here
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/06/2023 8:56 PM
Forecasts are calling for an inch of rain on Saturday, so for the safety and comfort of participants, we’ve decided to postpone Saturday’s protest to a later date. Check back this week for more details on the event and our thanks to everyone who’s reached out with their concerns.
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abortion protest postponed
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dino nuggets are a queer crowd pleaser
What if I bring them frozen still in the box lmao
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why are reactions disabled
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sorry didnt meant to interrupt you caboose
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why are reactions disabled
No, is fine, your question is more important, mine is silly lol
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What if I bring them frozen still in the box lmao
chicken flavoured dino pops
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AsterTheDisaster 04/07/2023 1:07 AM
DINO NUGGIES
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I need to remeber to buy some when I go shopping bc ✨ mental health✨
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why are reactions disabled
seb it/they 04/07/2023 8:24 AM
Are reactions not working for you somehow?
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Wait maybe I need to update my discord
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Hayden (he/they) 04/07/2023 10:29 AM
Big news for trans people! The Supreme Court has just denied a request to block an injunction on West Virginia's sports ban, 7-2! It is a big moment as it's our first supreme court decision over major anti-trans laws being pushed around the country!
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I think my discord is busted
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I think my discord is busted
if you're on android, the entire app UI has been very unhappy with my phone recently, so it may be related
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Yeah I'm on android
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I don't know what's goinggg onn (edited)
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Camryn Aisling 04/07/2023 12:01 PM
Yeah, I'm on the beta branch and it's been broken for a while
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Did they push to main before fixing any of this
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robin (they/it) 04/07/2023 2:14 PM
at the beans
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OK I can see reactions now
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at the beans
I leave a handful wherever I go, during the cool beans trans poetry day, I even left 5 in the bathroom and on a couple tables lol
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robin (they/it) 04/07/2023 4:20 PM
me and my theater friends go beaning almost every friday
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Is that what you call drinking coffee?
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Is this a youth thing? Am I old now?
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I’ve never heard the term before it might be a robinism
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Is this a youth thing? Am I old now?
what how have you never heard this before???
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robin (they/it) 04/07/2023 4:28 PM
we just exist at at the beans for a while and scheme and be wild and gossip
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carabeaning is what we call hiking know
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if you drink coffee at camp it's beaning carabeaning
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robin (they/it) 04/07/2023 4:30 PM
i saw cyprus while beaning today
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I think I'll drink some coffee today 😤
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I'll be beaning, as the young hip cats say, at home
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AsterTheDisaster 04/07/2023 6:47 PM
are you referring to cool beans in columbia or something else
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robin (they/it) 04/07/2023 6:57 PM
that is where the beaning generally happens
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How often do you spill them?
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robin (they/it) 04/07/2023 6:58 PM
every friday
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Well yes, beaning happens every Friday, but how often are the beans spilled?
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robin (they/it) 04/07/2023 6:59 PM
that usually happens in the sonic parking lot after rehearsal
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every day we have rehearsal
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Hayden (he/they) 04/07/2023 7:02 PM
Too young to watch challenger blow up, too old to use bean as a verb
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There was a coffee shop on main st in Pineville [suburb of charlotte basically] called "hip to the Java bean" that was very popular with my crowd of weirdos. I hate yall have forced this memory to resurface lmao
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robin (they/it) 04/07/2023 7:13 PM
glad or zad ?
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AsterTheDisaster 04/07/2023 7:37 PM
Dang I wish I was in Columbia. That's where my dad used to take me for poetry Wednesdays if I'm not mistaken.
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Dang I wish I was in Columbia. That's where my dad used to take me for poetry Wednesdays if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah, we went there last week for it
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When do yall bean usually? Cause I legit live in front of the rotc building lmao
Cyprus pinned a message to this channel. 04/08/2023 10:46 AM
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Pinning emoji guide because I keep forgetting what spoons mean
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.... that did not help my understanding 🤣🤣
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We have to pin the Zaxbys zalad post too for clarity ^^
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robin (they/it) 04/08/2023 12:47 PM
i am slowly corrupting everyone to use emojis in a way that makes more sense to me
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We have to pin the Zaxbys zalad post too for clarity ^^
You have the power to do this
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Dingo (they/them) 04/08/2023 4:56 PM
hey, what's y'all's stance on the following: A minor comes out to an adult, the adult doesn't tell the minor's parent. Another adult finds out because they see the minor, and then tells the adult. Is the first adult in the wrong
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James Harley 04/08/2023 4:57 PM
No
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An adult doesnt have any reason to betray a kids trust, nah
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Dingo (they/them) 04/08/2023 4:59 PM
ok yeah no
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sorry I'm like A bit high rn but I got chewed out a bit just now cause my younger cousin had confided in me she was bisexual and I hadn't told her dad
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and her teacher told him instead
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fortunately he's accepting
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I'm learning to trust my own judgement more! But sometimes I just need the extra reassurance.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/08/2023 5:19 PM
yeah the first adult (you) is perfectly fine. outing someone without their consent is what it would have been if you'd told her father, which is wrong
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BenjaminIsaac 04/08/2023 5:20 PM
the teacher shouldn’t have told him either
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you did the right thing leaving it up to your cousin because it should be her choice
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if he’s really accepting he should understand why someone wouldn’t want to come out and appreciate that you protected his kid
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"I saw Goody Proctor with the devil!" What a bad teacher, glad your cousins dad is good about it, but oof situation.
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Dingo (they/them) 04/08/2023 6:29 PM
sggshdkf
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appreciated
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yeah no, if I could I'd give that teacher an ear full >:/
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Dingo (they/them) 04/08/2023 6:57 PM
šŸ’ƒ (edited)
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on the brighter side
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I'm nearly done with my new video :3
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:rearranging furniture:
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Dingo (they/them) 04/08/2023 6:58 PM
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KJDSFJLKHD
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Dingo (they/them) 04/09/2023 12:45 AM
extremely excited to say that I'm in the final stretch of editing
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I'm on track for posting the video around dinner time tomorrow ā¤ļø I didn't think I'd make it haha
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Trans court victories are here. We have seen three big victories in court over trans rights in schools, sports, and drag. Morale will likely swing for activists as the focus shifts from anti-trans bills to court victories. Subscribe to support my work. https://t.co/oS9wobeS2x
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friend of mines go fund me!
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Prescott (he/they) 04/10/2023 1:48 PM
@Upstate SC Would love to see y'all here! As a reminder this is THIS Wednesday ā¤ļø https://fb.me/e/2oyKmpVro
According to the Center for American Progress, HALF of LGBTQ+ adults reported facing some kind of employment discrimination in 2022. Additionally, UCLA research indicates that pre-pandemic LGBT...
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@Upstate SC Would love to see y'all here! As a reminder this is THIS Wednesday ā¤ļø https://fb.me/e/2oyKmpVro
seb it/they 04/10/2023 1:48 PM
@Organizer can someone make this an event and put something in annoucements?
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robin (they/it) 04/10/2023 1:51 PM
i gotchu
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Nerak1 Dave 04/10/2023 3:00 PM
Who is working on the classes for physicians/healthcare providers? I'd like to join them. And would it make sense to have a channel for it within "on the ground?"
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seb it/they 04/10/2023 3:06 PM
It was @WhichWitch17 and myself
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@Organizer can someone make this an event and put something in annoucements?
Prescott (he/they) 04/10/2023 3:55 PM
Thanks for sharing! ā¤ļø Super excited about helping queer and trans people get work.
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seb it/they 04/10/2023 3:59 PM
Yeah if you have any future events you want us to promote just let us know
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Prescott (he/they) 04/10/2023 5:44 PM
Lots of them are super in the weeds about business issues lol but I will for sure reach out ā¤ļø
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is anyone from clemson wanting to try to go to the USC drag show with the spaces IRIS has reserved? I would loveeeee to go but don't have a car or way to get there 😭 luxx performing gagged me a bit, for sure (a quote from her)
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is anyone from clemson wanting to try to go to the USC drag show with the spaces IRIS has reserved? I would loveeeee to go but don't have a car or way to get there 😭 luxx performing gagged me a bit, for sure (a quote from her)
You say, getting Lady Camden and not inviting us 😭 šŸ«‚
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Rigged, I say, rigged!
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I didn't know we were getting lady camden 😭 that's so cool!! i knew the drag show was coming up here, just not who was coming. monet x change coming last time was the best fucking thing. I'd love to invite others, its not like we don't have room in the auditorium we used last time 😭 (edited)
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Hayden (he/they) 04/10/2023 7:37 PM
Please tell me lady Camden is a rev war themed drag act
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Lol no, she’s like a spice girl fashion queen
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cade (he/him) 04/10/2023 7:37 PM
ā€œā€ā€fashionā€ā€ā€ queen
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Very good, she lost to Willow Pill last season if I’m remembering right
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Yeah, lost in the finale ;-;
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Please tell me lady Camden is a rev war themed drag act
that's jinkx monsoon
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…. you’re not entirely wrong and I love it
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Click to see attachment šŸ–¼ļø
Also that losing her wig fake-out was iconic and legendary
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It’s giving Sasha Velour rose petals energy, it’s a game changer in the best way
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I feel like Sasha’s win kind of made people do reveals without purpose, but oh when something can match that energy with a reason for existing and is executed well, it’s magic
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that's true, too many do a reveal just for the sake of a gag but with no good reason like you're saying. its great when they utilize reveals to reveal to the same thing below. pussycat wig to a pussycat wig. gag
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I didn't know we were getting lady camden 😭 that's so cool!! i knew the drag show was coming up here, just not who was coming. monet x change coming last time was the best fucking thing. I'd love to invite others, its not like we don't have room in the auditorium we used last time 😭 (edited)
Do you know how involved queer orgs in Clemson are with the drag show? At USC IRIS has clawed back a lot of the power but it seems like the Clemson one is something no one knows as much about from what I’m seeing
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AsterTheDisaster 04/10/2023 8:50 PM
unfortunately our organizations are not that involved. This falls under Tiger Live our campus entertainment organization. In my opinion this is actually the best org currently to host giving our college's student funding board allocations they get the best resources.
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I am not quite sure how/why but this is the 10th annual drag show.
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lol wait words
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I am not quite sure how/why we are not more involved, but this is the 10th annual drag show.
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No its multiplying 😮 oatbert oatbert oatbert oatbert oatbert
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appeals to ur authority (edited)
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ads ur hominem
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strawmans u
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Uwu
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God has given me a keyboard and it’s my divine mandate to use it
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notices ur fallacy
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Hayden (he/they) 04/11/2023 9:28 PM
She post hocs on my ergo propter hoc
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Oh god Modelo is so fucking good
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I am under 21 I don't know what alcohol is
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Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 9:30 PM
My brother is obsessed with modelo
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there was a time it was like the only thing he drank
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my brother is obsessed with ginger ale he collects the cans
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Hayden (he/they) 04/11/2023 9:30 PM
High life or bust
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Today was actual torture
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had to use a tool that sent several THOUSAND tiny metal shavings into my skin meat
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seb it/they 04/11/2023 9:31 PM
Id love some of that extra spicy gingerale rn
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communizes ur council
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seb it/they 04/11/2023 9:31 PM
In a cold glass with ice
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Neeeeeed
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had to use a tool that sent several THOUSAND tiny metal shavings into my skin meat
Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 9:31 PM
huh
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had to use a tool that sent several THOUSAND tiny metal shavings into my skin meat
IM SO SORRY
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hope yr doing okay !!
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had to use a tool that sent several THOUSAND tiny metal shavings into my skin meat
seb it/they 04/11/2023 9:31 PM
Did you get them out
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Abolishes ur hierarchies'
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critiques ur theory
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Meet the DeWalt Die Grinder
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conquests ur bread
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Meet the DeWalt Die Grinder
Camryn Aisling 04/11/2023 9:32 PM
Oh one of those
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ay ay ron
IM SO SORRY
I'm in Modeloville, I'm fine
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Sobriety is for people who want to be sober who aren't me
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ouh
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at this moment
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seb it/they
Did you get them out
I found one in between my fingers just now
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Cointelpros ur org
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People at the plant are freaking out about the possibility of a mass layoff
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Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 9:34 PM
:/
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People at the plant are freaking out about the possibility of a mass layoff
Are y'all union
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People at the plant are freaking out about the possibility of a mass layoff
the tinky town plant?
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(georgetown papermill)
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Are y'all union
haha
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South carolina moment
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Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 9:35 PM
The place that laid off my partners dad wants him back now cause they let go of most of their skilled workers and now customers are catching on to how scummy/shit quality they've become
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I'm not concerned. There's not exactly a ton of welders in the city that are competent and nobody is really banging their door down to come work here
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Nico (she/her)
The place that laid off my partners dad wants him back now cause they let go of most of their skilled workers and now customers are catching on to how scummy/shit quality they've become
Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 9:36 PM
(this is the harley-davidson shop in florence)
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welds ur door
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If I were to get a motorcycle it would be a Royal-Enfield
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seb it/they 04/11/2023 9:36 PM
I've always wanted an old Indian bike
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They're so iconic but unfortunately named
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I want a loud and dangerous racing bike that I can do wheelies on (edited)
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kawasakis ur ninja
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seb it/they 04/11/2023 9:37 PM
My uncle used to sell motorcycles
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And do like motorcycle tricks
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I'm already going to be sinking money into my truck to make it a technical
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Oh shit
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seb it/they 04/11/2023 9:37 PM
They called him Dan the motorcycle man
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ur truck is so cool already that'll be rad
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seb it/they 04/11/2023 9:37 PM
Oooo
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seb it/they
They called him Dan the motorcycle man
Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 9:38 PM
I have an uncle that used to be a fireman, and we'd call him uncle dan the fireman
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unfortunately uncle dan the fireman is a fascist
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seb it/they 04/11/2023 9:38 PM
Lol this is a whole class of people
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I have multiple unclesšŸ˜Ž
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seb it/they 04/11/2023 9:38 PM
My motorcycle uncle is also a fascist
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And he used to own a gun shop
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Falling down moment
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seb it/they 04/11/2023 9:38 PM
(yes this man is from Florida)
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ur truck is so cool already that'll be rad
I need to clean the whole fucking thing down, fix the front end, fix the bumper, fix the lights, etc. etc.
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seb it/they
(yes this man is from Florida)
id b shocked if he was from anywhere else but florida
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I'm also distracted with the whole moving in with Shay
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Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 9:39 PM
My uncle dan lives in texas and he married a woman who is in this one offshoot of lutheranism called WELS (Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod)
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So excited for you and shay to live together ill have to visit
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Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 9:39 PM
they have some interesting beliefs
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Priest would you and shay be interested in hosting a Charleston OAT potluck
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She's going to get the AK with a drum mag
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Nico (she/her)
My uncle dan lives in texas and he married a woman who is in this one offshoot of lutheranism called WELS (Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod)
She synonds on my lutheran
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I'll have to ask, I'm going in for the leasing interview tomorrow
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In 6th grade I attended a lutheran school that was part of the Missourri synod
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not that that has anything to do with that
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Brain go brrrrr
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Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 9:41 PM
same
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I've almost got my equipment just how I want it
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multicam, AR-15 and a Beretta
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nice and boring
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Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 9:41 PM
I cleaned and lubed my 1911 today so that was fun
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Did anyone else catch the new John Wick?
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he's wicking on my john
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Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 9:42 PM
Cyprus I'm choking on my water cause of this
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Modernized M1 Thompsons
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She's choking on her water
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it's posting on my discord
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*theyre touching my grass 😳 *
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Ghost in the Shell also used modernized Thompsons
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She's tabling my discussion
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She's tabling my discussion
HA
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(╯‵▔′)╯︵┻━┻
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(╯°ā–”°)╯︵ ┻━┻
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Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 9:46 PM
恵悀恵悀
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multicam, AR-15 and a Beretta
i'm finally moving off campus so i'm gonna be in the market for a rifle this year
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She's purchasing my firearm (We are committing a felony)
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ar-15 for sure, but i still gotta hunt around
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She's purchasing my firearm (We are committing a felony)
i'm 21 !
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You're not allowed to straw purchase a gun that is what I'm referencing
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oh no i'm going to purchase it with US dollars
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If someone bought me a gun because I couldn't buy a gun for whatever reason both of us would get in trouble
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i don't think most places accept straw (joke) (edited)
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a lot og
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So true
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Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 9:49 PM
I need to get a 16" barrel before I move to jersey since all nfa items are banned there and my ar is now an unregistered sbr (I have until the end of may to register or modify it to not be an sbr)
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i'm parentheses pilled now instead of tone indicators
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since it's a tone indicator, but it's like literally the intent of the message
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i'm jan misali pilled
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it's indicating my tone
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they tone on my indicator
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what in the blue fuck does hj mean
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half-joking
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well, that's what it stands for
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it is not what it "means" though
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lmfao I thought it was "highly joking"
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which is the opposite
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watch the video !!!
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that's one of the problems with tone indicators
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and you read it and it sounds like "heej"
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same with /s and /srs
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you gotta pull out the fuckin road atlas and flip open the double page insert to consult the relevant abbreviation
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instead of just like, typing the word out
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cade (he/him) 04/11/2023 9:52 PM
sers
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Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 9:52 PM
felix u seem like the kind of person who would do conlanging
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clocked
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both could believably be sarcastic or serious
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Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 9:52 PM
have u tho šŸ‘€
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Nico (she/her)
felix u seem like the kind of person who would do conlanging
i have been watching jan misali for eons
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Nico (she/her)
have u tho šŸ‘€
i own sonja lang's toki pona book
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Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 9:53 PM
I see
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clocks ur conlang owo whats this
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who gave cypie italics
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Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 9:53 PM
I took the conlang class at usc, it was very fun and I probably learned more about linguistics in that class than in most of the other linguistics classes I took
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Reaching unprecedented levels of posting
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I took the conlang class at usc, it was very fun and I probably learned more about linguistics in that class than in most of the other linguistics classes I took
i'm currently in ling 301 and it's incredibly boring
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robin (they/it) 04/11/2023 9:53 PM
i read congalining and thought we were having a different conversation
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fails ur class
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french linguistics has been mildly more interesting
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felix
i'm currently in ling 301 and it's incredibly boring
Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 9:54 PM
who's the prof
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cheng xiao
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it's not her fault tho
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Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 9:54 PM
oh Idk who that is
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i just have read too much wikipedia to be taking it
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i just have read too much wikipedia to be taking it
Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 9:54 PM
mood
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also watched too many jan misali videos
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edits ur wikipedia article
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Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 9:54 PM
are u a ling minor?
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no, i'm just taking it for a misc college credit
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Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 9:55 PM
I see
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edits ur wikipedia article
i've edited wikipedia
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Deletes ur account oops wrong button
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Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 9:55 PM
I'm obsessed with linguistics so if u ever wanna talk about it
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felix
i've edited wikipedia
Woooow
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i fixed typos !
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i'm a saiint
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I had to make up an entire conlang for aliens in the tabletop I'm running
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Camryn Aisling 04/11/2023 9:55 PM
Oh see
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Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 9:56 PM
what if I drop the conlang doc
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Do it
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i was more into conlanging at one time, but it's been a while
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Camryn Aisling 04/11/2023 9:56 PM
I'm from the cesspits of the internet, so, to me, /hj is an entirely different tone indicator with a very different meaning
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tha'ts what i'm saying!!!!
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also i read /lh (light hearted) as left-handed
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i can't reform that synapse
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Camryn Aisling
I'm from the cesspits of the internet, so, to me, /hj is an entirely different tone indicator with a very different meaning
what the fuck is this meaning
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reforms ur synapse
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does someone have a picture of all the tone indicators i could have cause im not on twitter so i dont know some
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cade (he/him) 04/11/2023 9:57 PM
what sides of the internet are you on that’s abbreviating handjob
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She's indicating my tone
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Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 9:57 PM
Working Grammar of Bvarish 1 Phonology 1.1 Consonants Bilabial Alveolar Palatal Velar Glottal Stop p b t d k ɔ Nasal m n Trill Tap or Flap ɾ Fricative ɸ β s z x ɣ h Approximan...
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what sides of the internet are you on that’s abbreviating handjob
Camryn Aisling 04/11/2023 9:57 PM
LITERALLY THIS
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Not necessarily a cesspit
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Camryn Aisling 04/11/2023 9:58 PM
But in like the "so fucking smug sense"
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Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 9:58 PM
thank u
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Who here can digest corn
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there's a hold at the usc climbing wall that's literally a piece of corn
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like it's not real corn, but it looks like corn
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The body cannot digest corn you are incorrect
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Camryn Aisling
But in like the "so fucking smug sense"
Camryn Aisling 04/11/2023 9:59 PM
Relatedly: /cj
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That's fun
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cornjob
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thank u
agglutinates your conlang
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cade (he/him) 04/11/2023 9:59 PM
country boys make do
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nico canceled
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country boys make do
So true
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cade (he/him)
country boys make do
:flag_iowa:
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Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 10:01 PM
btw @felix for romanization of my conlang /œ/ is ë, /y/ is ü, /x/ is kh, and /É£/ is gh, I think everything else should be self explanatory
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nico canceled
Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 10:01 PM
oh fyuck
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cancels u
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Nico (she/her)
btw @felix for romanization of my conlang /œ/ is ë, /y/ is ü, /x/ is kh, and /É£/ is gh, I think everything else should be self explanatory
that's ipa, not romanization lol
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Today I touched the corn 😳
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i also used the corn hold today
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it's on rope 5 if anyone is interested in visiting the corn
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This is me I have jesters privilege (I am legally mandated to be goofy)
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A.Goofy.Movie.1995.1080P.BluRay.MHD.X264.DD.5.1-DDR.mkv
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Someone photoshop him into the trans colors
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one sec
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felix
that's ipa, not romanization lol
Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 10:04 PM
no I mean that's how I am romanizing those phonemes in my conlang
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ohh icic (edited)
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Y'all are nerds
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even
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Someone photoshop him into the trans colors
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im jealous bc i don't know ipa
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Actually I do know ipa
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Kinda
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Hmm I meant his outfit but this is also cool
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Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 10:05 PM
I learned it by reading a lot of wikipedia when I was younger
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The broad ones
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Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 10:06 PM
well not all of it
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Felix taught me
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Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 10:06 PM
ipa is cool and sexy
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I know some IPA from looking at the different futharks
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i know all of the relevant things for transcribing french and some of it for english
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inb4 >do you mean indian pale ale lol
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there's all the rhoticity stuff and whatnot that french does not have (edited)
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robin (they/it) 04/11/2023 10:07 PM
my physy teacher from high school gave me a wikipedia sticker that i like too much to put anywhere
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Put it on wikipedia
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robin (they/it) 04/11/2023 10:07 PM
no
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you wouldn't put a sticker on wikipedia
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robin (they/it) 04/11/2023 10:07 PM
its too special
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I used to be like semi addicted to Wikipedia
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me when im neurodivergent for french
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Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 10:08 PM
my brother and I used to read wikipedia for fun when we were kids
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Would read a hundred or more pages a day
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wikipedia rabbit holes are fantastic
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wikipedia reader's anonymous
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if it was a semi addiction you'd only need six
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Yes I prayed to God and a higher power and found a way to stop (sarcastic
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Rust is a multi-paradigm, high-level, general-purpose programming language that emphasizes performance, type safety and concurrency. It enforces memory safety—that is, that all references point to valid memory—without requiring the use of a garbage collector or reference counting present in other memory-safe languages. To simultaneously enforce ...
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im looking at Wikipedia right now
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We should make wikipedia have a profit incentive
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Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 10:09 PM
this is some good shit
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you wouldn't profit incentive a 501c3
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Reading marx to become more efficient at separating my workers from their surplus value (edited)
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they did profit on a grape (the grapes are commodities)
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profits from ur labor
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socially necessary naptime
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Sooooo true
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telling chatgpt to explain the value form
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Someone get Rowan
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it would probably do a fairly good job since that's just a wikipedia page away
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it will definitely just randomly lie to you and make shit up, so just read das kapital or something something
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or get a geography major and vaguely absorb tidbits of marx here and there
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Chatgpt on the value form
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The value-form is a concept from Marxist economics that refers to the social form that the exchange of commodities takes under capitalism. It describes the way in which the value of a commodity is expressed through its exchange with other commodities, and how this process creates a universal equivalent that can be used to measure the value of all commodities in terms of money. In capitalist societies, goods and services are produced for exchange in the market, where they are traded for money. This means that their value is not determined by their usefulness or the labor required to produce them, but by their ability to be exchanged for money. The value-form emerges from this process of exchange, in which the value of a commodity is expressed as its exchange value, or its price. The value-form is significant because it is a key element in the reproduction of capitalist social relations. It creates the illusion that the value of a commodity is simply a natural attribute of the thing itself, rather than a socially determined relationship between people mediated by the market. It also obscures the exploitation that takes place under capitalism, by concealing the fact that the value of goods and services is ultimately derived from the labor of workers. Overall, the value-form is an important concept for understanding how capitalist societies function, and how the exchange of commodities contributes to the reproduction of capitalist social relations.
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So true
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The reproduction ofdaily life by freddy perlman is a pretty good marxist zine written by an anarchist that explains some of this ngl (edited)
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Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 10:14 PM
values your form
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The value-form is a concept from Marxist economics that refers to the social form that the exchange of commodities takes under capitalism. It describes the way in which the value of a commodity is expressed through its exchange with other commodities, and how this process creates a universal equivalent that can be used to measure the value of all commodities in terms of money. In capitalist societies, goods and services are produced for exchange in the market, where they are traded for money. This means that their value is not determined by their usefulness or the labor required to produce them, but by their ability to be exchanged for money. The value-form emerges from this process of exchange, in which the value of a commodity is expressed as its exchange value, or its price. The value-form is significant because it is a key element in the reproduction of capitalist social relations. It creates the illusion that the value of a commodity is simply a natural attribute of the thing itself, rather than a socially determined relationship between people mediated by the market. It also obscures the exploitation that takes place under capitalism, by concealing the fact that the value of goods and services is ultimately derived from the labor of workers. Overall, the value-form is an important concept for understanding how capitalist societies function, and how the exchange of commodities contributes to the reproduction of capitalist social relations.
the money/value-form distinction is more subtler in marx than this afaik
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this is a rowan ramble i've heard a few times
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The reproduction ofdaily life by freddy perlman is a pretty good marxist zine written by an anarchist that explains some of this ngl (edited)
Post itt
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marxists dot org have a not dogshit website challenge
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anarchist lib could have slightly better aesthetics too
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The reproduction ofdaily life by freddy perlman is a pretty good marxist zine written by an anarchist that explains some of this ngl (edited)
Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 10:15 PM
Is this like how target helps families find the joy of everyday life, which is a slogan that I've only heard in the context of being trained at target and never since
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They can't help it
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just don't become libcom dot org (edited)
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Nico (she/her)
Is this like how target helps families find the joy of everyday life, which is a slogan that I've only heard in the context of being trained at target and never since
What
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All the anarchists are stealing the programmer socks (edited)
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Damn did all the graphic designers form a splinter party
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So true
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oh no i'm going to purchase it with US dollars
Omg yes 🤣🤣 I'll use this response forever
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not to be sectarian, but the anarchist library is a better website
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If someone bought me a gun because I couldn't buy a gun for whatever reason both of us would get in trouble
Private market is a little more flexible tho btw
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being able to export writings to zine printable formats, epubs, pdfs, etc. is fantastic
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also having a reasonable content width out of the box
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Anarchist library making everything printable in a zine format is awesome
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Nico (she/her)
I need to get a 16" barrel before I move to jersey since all nfa items are banned there and my ar is now an unregistered sbr (I have until the end of may to register or modify it to not be an sbr)
Right 😩 I was hoping that'd get repealed
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Anarchist library making everything printable in a zine format is awesome
there's also a book builder thing which is kinda neat
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you can add entries on the library to a "book"
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and make a compendium, or an anthology
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diy collected works
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Right 😩 I was hoping that'd get repealed
Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 10:19 PM
I'm also going to have to modify it in several ways so it complies with the assault weapons ban in nj (I can't have a bayonet mount 😦 )
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Right 😩 I was hoping that'd get repealed
Have you heard of Ground Branch?
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they also have the wikis in a bunch of languages that all use the same site
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marxists dot org, not so much
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Have you heard of Ground Branch?
No, but I'm gonna now lol
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Also I mean marxists.org is ran by Trots, you think as many newspapers and websites they do that trots would be better with website design
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well that's just the thing. must be much better with print media than digital
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they are not !
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Caboose
No, but I'm gonna now lol
Tactical barbie w/ realistic mechanics
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she sam on my shankland
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they are not !
That's why they made all the theorists look hard af on the front page, but have lenin turned around, it's a conspiracy, also putting Trotsky on the front page? Sus. Also no stalin pictured on main? SUS. They list many works tho, so I mean they don't seem biased in their content
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who else is excited for match three of the world chess championship tomorrow morning
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lol maybe they aren't proud of stalin,,,he did kinda do a lot of not good things
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She's joseph on my stalin
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That's why they made all the theorists look hard af on the front page, but have lenin turned around, it's a conspiracy, also putting Trotsky on the front page? Sus. Also no stalin pictured on main? SUS. They list many works tho, so I mean they don't seem biased in their content
wheres stalin???????? /hj (edited)
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ding fans in shambles
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Pls no more discourse
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not now
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joke halfing
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lol maybe they aren't proud of stalin,,,he did kinda do a lot of not good things
Nah, stalin is Bae, his mustache would shiver me timbers lmao
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Hobbit joke
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she ding on my liren til i lose match 2 of the world chess championship 2023
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deletes ur message
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wheres stalin???????? /hj (edited)
Camryn Aisling 04/11/2023 10:30 PM
There's actually an entire section dedicated to why they don't include stalin/mao on the main page, but they do actually have extensive separate collections for those two
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There's actually an entire section dedicated to why they don't include stalin/mao on the main page, but they do actually have extensive separate collections for those two
I was wondering why they wouldn't include some of the best to ever do it
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On the front page lol
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Camryn Aisling 04/11/2023 10:31 PM
Short answer: optics
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does anyone else here play chess
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not very well but i like to
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nah yeah makes sense
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i play chess
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it's not fun tho when someone rips my cock and balls off with like a 3 move gambit
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That's why they made all the theorists look hard af on the front page, but have lenin turned around, it's a conspiracy, also putting Trotsky on the front page? Sus. Also no stalin pictured on main? SUS. They list many works tho, so I mean they don't seem biased in their content
Where comrade oatbert oatbert
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so i only play with other people who "just think its neat"
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this is why i don't play with felix
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my cokcnballs=z
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i just think it's neat but i'm too autistic to not take it seriously
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they special on my interest
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i think its neat, ill get super into chess for like a month and then leave it alone for a while
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I lost every game at a high school chess tournament once (edited)
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somebody has to
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lichess > chess dot com
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real true fact certified by american patriots
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felix
lichess > chess dot com
FACTS
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felix
real true fact certified by american patriots
Brandon sends his regards
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felix ReTruthed this message
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i like lichess cause it looks better and i like its puzzles
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I like chess it's neat and I enjoy passing the time like that sometimes. The problem is that I get distracted if a game takes too long or my opponent takes too long making moves. The key to chess is all move, no think.
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caboose you should play bullet
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its chess but fast
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no oh my god no
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That sounds delightful
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bullet is how you get terrible at chess and have a bad day
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i'm sworn off of it
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i made a new account with zero bullet allowed
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What account?
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oh on lichess
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i just wanted to start anew
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Oh I thought lichess was a dairy treat
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omg i love bullet
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bullet is evil and should be avoided
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Anyone wanna play something? I just clicked the site
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I'm on the main screen. I'll make an account
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Ok I made an account, I'm CabooseSC
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i like the puzzles they have if no one wants to play, you can tailor what you can practice on (edited)
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I actually have to feed my flesh form
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felix
bullet is how you get terrible at chess and have a bad day
I like bullet that's how I play. No strat just vibes anarchy
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Whew I suck ass at bullet I suppose lol
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It's more about making moves quickly while avoiding checkmate and whoever runs out of time first loses
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Weird, no completion
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it's mostly about intuition once you build some
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how i think about bullet is "whats the move thats PROBABLY not gonna get me fucked over"
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there's also lots of bullet tricks that take advantage of the format
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eg premove shenanigans
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Ahh, so like 0 time use
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i do premoves sometimes but it keeps backfiring
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She pre my move tiredeyes
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Bout to go into downtown and find food, anyone want some stickers at 11pm? Lmao
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oh shit it's a lot later than i realized ;-;
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I'm a couple beers down, I'm going to bed
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I'm a couple beers down, I'm going to bed
Fake news
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real news
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time to be comfy
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George (He/They) 04/11/2023 10:51 PM
The Anti Choice group ā€œAdvocates for Lifeā€ is doing a fundraiser at Baked Bear tomorrow from 6-9 Pm (edited)
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Yuck
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George (He/They)
The Anti Choice group ā€œAdvocates for Lifeā€ is doing a fundraiser at Baked Bear tomorrow from 6-9 Pm (edited)
This title is misleading
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I was like "nice, eating ice cream and cake with big hairy gay men, sounds like my kinda evening out" but then it's just bigotry
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The Anti Choice group ā€œAdvocates for Lifeā€ is doing a fundraiser at Baked Bear tomorrow from 6-9 Pm (edited)
Damn I liked baked bear
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Logan (he/him) 04/11/2023 10:57 PM
Their food looks like it would instantly kill me if I tried to eat it
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Cyprus
Damn I liked baked bear
George (He/They) 04/11/2023 10:57 PM
I know me too šŸ˜ž
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i'm jan misali pilled
im an hour late to this but he's one of my favorite video essayist and is the entire reason i plan on learning like 3 languages in the near future (toki pona, esperanto, ASL, maybe a tactile language idk) (edited)
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I need to learn more asl
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My New Year's resolution is to be more nonverbal tbh
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im an hour late to this but he's one of my favorite video essayist and is the entire reason i plan on learning like 3 languages in the near future (toki pona, esperanto, ASL, maybe a tactile language idk) (edited)
George (He/They) 04/11/2023 10:59 PM
Omg I didn’t even realize they’re nonbiney!
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and autistic
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seb it/they
My New Year's resolution is to be more nonverbal tbh
unironically 50% of the reason i want to learn it
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George (He/They) 04/11/2023 11:01 PM
I watched their video on why /hj is worse than useless that’s when I found out they’re autistic
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yeah i did too, despite following their channel for a while
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George (He/They)
Omg I didn’t even realize they’re nonbiney!
Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 11:08 PM
wait jan misali is nb, did not know
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it's in their about page on yt, probably on tumblr too, and they're another he/they user
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Nico (she/her) 04/11/2023 11:09 PM
ohh
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George (He/They) 04/11/2023 11:11 PM
I also recently found out that Xploshi is trans!
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George (He/They) 04/11/2023 11:12 PM
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does anyone know any good dermatologists in the midlands area
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Fae’s neo on my pronoun
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Any inexpensive vpn recommendations
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seb it/they 04/12/2023 2:00 PM
@felix
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/12/2023 2:00 PM
I just use TOR
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tor isn't a vpn
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/12/2023 2:01 PM
Im aware
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Any inexpensive vpn recommendations
Mullvad is a VPN service that helps keep your online activity, identity, and location private. Only €5/month - We accept Bitcoin, cash, bank wire, credit card, PayPal, and Swish.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/12/2023 2:01 PM
Achieves the same endgoal though
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thank you
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seb it/they 04/12/2023 2:01 PM
not always, you can't for example watch french netflix using tor or whatever
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Any inexpensive vpn recommendations
proton vpn is free and run by a reputable group (edited)
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Thanks
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Will check out
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I use Proton VPN but the paid version so i can torrent
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$5 a month is worth it honestly
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Also proton mail is really good
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I suggest everyone get a proton email account (which is free)
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Speaking of, I'm not really plugged into trans social media, but does anyone know any trans focused hobbyist servers for tech and diy stuff
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seb it/they 04/12/2023 6:48 PM
Learn rust join the rust official server
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(half joking)
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the arch linux discord server is fairly trans friendly, but not much goes on in there
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seb it/they 04/12/2023 7:11 PM
Oop
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Yeah ive been around my fair share in the linux servers despite being a Windows user
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Im looking for a mechanical keyboard server specfically but thats so niche
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seb it/they 04/12/2023 7:14 PM
I know trans people who are also very into mechanical keyboard but not a specific discord server they congregate in
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robin (they/it) 04/12/2023 7:16 PM
make one šŸ‘ļø
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/12/2023 7:16 PM
i know the basics of the keytypes but im not an enthusiast (i dont have hundreds of dollars for high end mechanical keyboards lol)
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Lol same
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I wish i did
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Im looking for a mechanical keyboard server specfically but thats so niche
r/mechanicalkeyboards has a server
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Hey everyone, if some of you are going to the Live Out Loud event tomorrow and dont live in sumter, you can @ me for help to find the event area on campus. Its a small tech college but it can be kinda weird
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Hey everyone, if some of you are going to the Live Out Loud event tomorrow and dont live in sumter, you can @ me for help to find the event area on campus. Its a small tech college but it can be kinda weird
760-499-4067 if I don't respond on discord
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Oh my god. Missouri AG just essentially banned gender affirming care for most trans adults via emergency rule. Requires 3 years of dysphoria, 18 months of therapy sessions, doesn't allow people with autism/depression. This is what elimination of transgender people looks like.
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Thebrokebnetwork 04/13/2023 3:35 PM
Ok that's fucked up, especially since a people with autism are more likely to be trans then nerotypical people. Jesus fuck.
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what the fuck
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WAIT DEPRESSSION???? THAT TOO?
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FUCL
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Nico (she/her) 04/13/2023 3:36 PM
[redacted redacted]
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seb it/they 04/13/2023 3:37 PM
Terrifying
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the point under #21 makes no sense to me
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robin (they/it) 04/13/2023 3:39 PM
if they aren't allowed to transition they are more likely to not transition
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yeah exactly like thats just how that works - its not like proof that kids don't need to transition
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it's possible this is tied to the st louis children's hospital if yall have been following that story (the missouri AG has been directly involved in this)
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seb it/they 04/13/2023 3:41 PM
I have not, could you fill us in?
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tldr a whistleblower came out from the transgender center there claiming poor screening practices for trans youth, people disputed the whistleblower's allegations, the missouri AG and state government started an investigation and sided with the whistleblower
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Arnold Karr 04/13/2023 3:42 PM
There's a whole lot of text missing. The 2nd page begins with fn 20.
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This is the full text
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sage 🌿 04/13/2023 3:58 PM
What makes it even worse imo is that it’s literally autism acceptance month This is so fucked
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comrade kalia (she/her) 04/13/2023 4:06 PM
the actions i wish to perform cannot be described in a public forum
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especially since i’ll be starting a federal contracting job on Monday
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Thebrokebnetwork 04/13/2023 4:07 PM
Oppppppp
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sprinkled MSG on pizza and it rules
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was it plain pizza otherwise?
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Camryn Aisling 04/13/2023 5:38 PM
Sweet jesus fuck, missouri
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was it plain pizza otherwise?
Yea
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>Huh gee why is Aisling saying 'jesus fuck missouri'
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>find out
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Jesus fuck, missouri
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/14/2023 10:14 AM
hey does anyone have a screenshot of the tweet where some president of some genetics foundation ratioed a random dude who was upset that they talked about trans/intersex people? (edited)
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?
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i love arguing with people who are so convinced that "le basic biology" owns trans ppl (edited)
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Could you censor the 4chan slur
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I think the emojis really sell it
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"I know what I'm talking about and you can tell by the hospital, microscope, books, and lightbulb"
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"Source?" "šŸ„šŸ”¬šŸ“ššŸ’”"
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Well well well Lying on our resume, are we, Phillip?
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Appreciate the support, but let’s not make up stories, now
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If this is older than 2018 maybe he stepped down
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My screenshot is from the IGF website as of now, but I wouldn’t put it past either him to have not updated, them to not have updated, him to have been making a point to win an internet fight, or any other combination
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(About the new president from their website) "Professor Marcia Margis-Pinheiro . . . President of the International Genetics Federation (since September 2018)."
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The wayback only has snapshots starting in 2022 :/
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I like to believe he was never the president, has been calling himself the president for years, and no one ever noticed
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I like to believe he was never the president, has been calling himself the president for years, and no one ever noticed
Alt: pic of Dave strider DAVE: well shit DAVE: thats a hell of a mystery no one thought was a mystery and didnt even really need solving DAVE: but damn if it didnt just get solved so nice work
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Alt: pic of Dave strider DAVE: well shit DAVE: thats a hell of a mystery no one thought was a mystery and didnt even really need solving DAVE: but damn if it didnt just get solved so nice work
I like knowing stuff
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comrade kalia (she/her) 04/14/2023 1:38 PM
good news: i start my first big girl software developer job on Monday bad news: i feel woefully unprepared and like i am not enough of a real adult to do this
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is anyone here a point of contact for ydsa clemson?
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@Drew i believe
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cool thx
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Not South Carolina. But. Missouri basically just banned gender affirming care for adults… If you have any pre existing conditions that are not ā€œresolvedā€, including depression and autism, you cannot receive care. + a fuck load of more horse shit.
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It’s an emergency order. Like our existence is equivalent to fucking 9/11 or COVID 19
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The state’s Attorney General Andrew Bailey announced an emergency regulation that erects enormous barriers to care for trans people of all ages.
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/14/2023 11:25 PM
fucking scary
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The emergency rule makes it impossible for transgender people of all ages to access gender-affirming care unless they have exhibited a medically documented ā€œlong-lasting, persistent and intenseā€ pattern of gender dysphoria for three years. They also have to prove they’ve received ā€œa full psychological or psychiatric assessmentā€ and ā€œ15 separate, hourly sessionsā€ of therapy, at least 10 of which must be with the same therapist. This follows several anti-trans lobbyists and lawmakers, who’ve attempted to falsely equate transness with ā€œsevere mental illness.ā€ People seeking such care will have to be screened for autism and other pre-existing issues, such as anxiety and depression, and pre-existing conditions must ā€œhave been treated and resolvedā€ before a person can access gender-affirming care. Health care providers also have to check that a minor who is trans has received a comprehensive screening annually and isn’t suffering from ā€œsocial media addiction.ā€ Care is also prohibited if healthcare workers don’t check yearly whether a patient is ā€œexperiencing social contagion with respect to the patient’s gender identity.ā€ This is likely based on yet another GOP-spread myth that transness is a trend or craze. The proposal will go into effect on April 27 until February 6, 2024. ā€œThis is what elimination of transgender people looks like,ā€ transgender activist and researcher Erin Reed tweeted.
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/14/2023 11:35 PM
link to full bill
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CW bill text disclosing conspicuously—on its website, physically in writing, and orally in person by the prescribing provider, to the patient and (if the patient is a minor) to the patient’s parents or legal guardians, by means of information that includes language materially identical to each point below, that: 1. The use of puberty blocker drugs or cross-sex hormones to treat gender dysphoria has been described as experimental by researchers and is not approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA);8 2. The use of puberty blocker drugs or cross-sex hormones to treat gender dysphoria has been recognized by medical authorities in Europe, after independent reviews, to be experimental or lacking sufficient evidence and has been substantially restricted in countries such as Sweden, Finland, Norway, and the United Kingdom;9 3. The U.S. Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality has determined, ā€œThere is a lack of current evidence-based guidance for the care of children and adolescents who identify as transgender, particularly regarding the benefits and harms of pubertal suppression, medical affirmation with hormone therapy, and surgical affirmationā€;10 4. A study spanning 5 decades of almost 5,000 transgender people who had received cross-sex hormones, regardless of treatment type, nevertheless showed a ā€œtwo- fold increased mortality risk,ā€ which ā€œdid not decrease over timeā€;11 5. An article in the International Review of Psychiatry found that, according to ten different studies, the vast majority of children, 85.2%, experiencing gender dysphoria grew to become comfortable with their natal sex, and the Endocrine Society found that ā€œthe large majority (about 85%) of prepubertal children with a childhood diagnosis did not remain GD/gender incongruent in adolescenceā€;12 6. A scientific article in the Journal of Infant, Child, and Adolescent Psychotherapy concluded that ā€œencouraging mastectomy, ovariectomy, uterine extirpation, penile disablement, tracheal shave, the prescription of hormones which are out of line with the genetic make-up of the child, or puberty blockers, are all clinical practices which run an unacceptably high risk of doing harmā€;13 7. Sweden’s National Board of Health and Welfare (ā€œNBHWā€) recently declared that, at least for minors, ā€œthe risks of puberty suppressing treatment with GnRH-analogues and gender-affirming hormonal treatment currently outweigh the possible benefitsā€;14 8. A systematic review of the evidence by researchers in Europe regarding natal boys concluded that there is ā€œinsufficient evidence to determine the efficacy or safety of hormonal treatmentā€ and that certain hormonal interventions can potentially cause or worsen depression;15 9. One scientific study noted that an individual whose friend identifies as transgender is ā€œmore than 70 timesā€ as likely to similarly identify as transgender, suggesting that many individuals may ā€œincorrectly believe themselves to be transgender and in need of transitionā€ because of social factorsā€;16 10. A follow-up study recently determined, ā€œYouths with a history of mental health issues were especially likely to have taken steps to socially and medically transitionā€;17 11. A study of 1,655 parental reports found that ā€œparents tended to rate their children as worse off after transitionā€ and ā€œthat parents believed gender clinicians and clinics pressured the families toward transitionā€;18 12. The FDA has issued a warning that puberty blockers can lead to brain swelling and blindness;19
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continued 13. Puberty is associated with profound developmental maturation of the brain, and researchers have expressed concern that interruption of normally timed puberty may therefore be harmful to the brain;20 14. Multiple observational studies conclude that nearly all children prescribed puberty blockers for gender dysphoria have later been prescribed cross-sex hormones. For example, an independent review of gender transition interventions based on data from multiple countries determined that ā€œalmost all children and young people who are put on puberty blockers go on to sex hormone treatmentā€;21 15. After performing a systematic review, the Endocrine Society was unable to draw any conclusions on whether hormone therapy reduces death by suicide among individuals identifying as transgender;22 16. A summary of available evidence written by medical societies ā€œfrom around the globeā€ found that ā€œthere are no proven methods to preserve fertility in early pubertal transgender adolescentsā€;23 17. Researchers have suggested that allowing a child to go through puberty without medical intervention may resolve gender dysphoria, whereas puberty suppression may improperly influence and worsen gender dysphoria;24 18. Puberty suppression presents a risk of stunted growth and failure to attain normal peak bone density;25 19. There is a lack of understanding in the medical community of the causes of gender dysphoria, as well as an admission that more research is needed to fully understand the effects, especially long-term effects, of puberty suppression and cross-sex hormone treatment;26 20. A significant number of children and adolescents who begin gender transition interventions desist in their desire to transition, although the actual number is unknown because of low rates of follow up;27 21. The Endocrine Society has acknowledged that children experiencing gender dysphoria are more likely to identify with their natal sex if they do not socially transition;28 22. The World Professional Association for Transgender Health (ā€œWPATHā€) has acknowledged, ā€œIn most children, gender dysphoria will disappear before, or early in, pubertyā€;29 and 23. Many medical, hormonal, or surgical transition interventions are irreversible.30
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doctors have to say all of that, verbatim, orally, to parents and patients
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comrade kalia (she/her) 04/15/2023 8:39 AM
i, too, love picking factoids that support my position id: a screenshot from the wikipedia app that reads: ā€œEfforts to ban puberty blockers are opposed by the American Medical Association, the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry (AACAP), the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Psychiatric Association, the Endocrine Society, the Pediatric Endocrine Society, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, the American Psychological Association, the American College of Physicians, the American Academy of Family Physicians, the American Osteopathic Association, the American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists, the American Nurses Association, the US Professional Association for Transgender Health, and the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH). In Australia, the Royal Australasian College of Physicians, the Royal Australian College of General Practitioners, the Australian Endocrine Society, and AusPATH also all support access.ā€ (edited)
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the difference being i have a whole lot more than those 23 silly points
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plus every single one of them leaves out something about the information it cites, like how even in Scandinavian countries where trans youth care is discouraged it’s still allowed, performed, and covered by their national health programs
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seb it/they 04/15/2023 8:41 AM
Can you add alt text to this image please?
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seb it/they
Can you add alt text to this image please?
comrade kalia (she/her) 04/15/2023 8:42 AM
was typing it
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seb it/they 04/15/2023 8:42 AM
Cool thanks :)
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It's a long one for sure lol
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comrade kalia (she/her) 04/15/2023 8:43 AM
wait i have a genius idea
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seb it/they 04/15/2023 8:43 AM
Oh you should include the actual text in the alt ideally
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comrade kalia (she/her) 04/15/2023 8:43 AM
i can just copy the text
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seb it/they 04/15/2023 8:43 AM
Yes
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comrade kalia (she/her) 04/15/2023 8:43 AM
i have the stupid
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seb it/they 04/15/2023 8:43 AM
No
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Alt text is a hard thing to learn don't call yourself stupid
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/15/2023 8:44 AM
it's me, i'm the stupid
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seb it/they
Oh you should include the actual text in the alt ideally
comrade kalia (she/her) 04/15/2023 8:44 AM
i did a brief one while i was typing the whole thing so that it would be immediately accessible in some way
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seb it/they 04/15/2023 8:44 AM
Lol okay cool
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You're just operating on a higher plane than I am
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comrade kalia (she/her)
the difference being i have a whole lot more than those 23 silly points
Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/15/2023 8:45 AM
i love that they cited wpath as a reason to ban puberty blockers
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seb it/they 04/15/2023 8:45 AM
Wpath care standards have never been anything but a method to avoid giving trans people care tbh
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Like they've gotten better but they're pretty bad
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/15/2023 8:47 AM
i haven't read the latest SoC, and i think informed consent is the gold standard, but like, idk. i don't have contempt for wpath
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for me like the scary thing is that this regulation came from the executive branch
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like the time from us knowing that this exists to it being enforced is five days (i think it was announced on thursday and goes into effect on monday)
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and like, it's so unorthodox and weird. ike, AGs and goveners using executive power (in this case, under a consumer protection law) to ban trans affirming procedures is not something i've thought about.
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hearts go out to any trans people in missouri. really scary shit. (edited)
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robin (they/it) 04/15/2023 8:55 AM
i am confused why it has an end date ? is this just a temporary ban until they can get it solidified into law or something ?
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robin (they/it)
i am confused why it has an end date ? is this just a temporary ban until they can get it solidified into law or something ?
comrade kalia (she/her) 04/15/2023 10:11 AM
presumably, that or there may be a weird rule that specifies an executive action has to have a set period
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id have to look into Missouri law specifically but some states do that as an extra check on executive power
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robin (they/it)
i am confused why it has an end date ? is this just a temporary ban until they can get it solidified into law or something ?
there are GAC bans making their way through the missouri government rn which could replace the function of the emergency order
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i dont think its irrational to call this trans genocide tw transphobia
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robin (they/it) 04/15/2023 10:59 AM
it isnt the current legislation and stuff meets 3 of the 5 parts of the definition of genocide, and meeting only one is what constitutes genocide
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seb it/they 04/15/2023 1:54 PM
I think we should start to get a plan in place in case Alan Wilson does something similar here
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Transgender genocide or trans genocide is a term used by scholars and activists to describe an elevated level of systematic discrimination and violence against transgender people. The term is related to the common meaning as well as the legal concept of genocide, which the Genocide Convention describes as an intentional effort to completely or p...
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robin (they/it)
i am confused why it has an end date ? is this just a temporary ban until they can get it solidified into law or something ?
It has an end date because it’s an emergency order.
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i dont think its irrational to call this trans genocide tw transphobia
How do I do one of those messages
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Use these || at the ends of what you want to say
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You gotta use two
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Use these || at the ends of what you want to say
Tysvm
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front and ends to indicate what section of the message
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furniture on greene st in cola (image description: a photo of a street with some furniture. from left to right there is a leather loveseat, a frame, a storage shelf, two chairs, a desk and a corner seat (edited)
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furniture on greene st in cola (image description: a photo of a street with some furniture. from left to right there is a leather loveseat, a frame, a storage shelf, two chairs, a desk and a corner seat (edited)
seb it/they 04/15/2023 6:46 PM
can you add alt text please?
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furniture on greene st in cola (image description: a photo of a street with some furniture. from left to right there is a leather loveseat, a frame, a storage shelf, two chairs, a desk and a corner seat (edited)
either0rgans 04/15/2023 6:53 PM
Dam I'm want loveseat
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i sat in iy
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its comfy
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either0rgans 04/15/2023 6:54 PM
Nice
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cade (he/him) 04/15/2023 7:07 PM
love seat headrest
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seb it/they 04/15/2023 8:13 PM
can you add alt text to this please? (edited)
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Do they not understand that tipping is a thing….
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Also if the performer and attendee both consent to a dance then I don’t see the issue
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seb it/they 04/15/2023 8:15 PM
"sacred place of higher learning" šŸ’€
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Camryn Aisling 04/15/2023 8:17 PM
How many members do they even have
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BenjaminIsaac 04/15/2023 8:17 PM
they did this AGAIN ??
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because it went so well last year… give it a rest clemson
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College republican groups are pathetic
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BenjaminIsaac 04/15/2023 8:20 PM
I love the images in the replies about how drag performers are ā€œreceiving cashā€ oh god forbid we tip performers
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acting like it’s an under the table exchange lmao
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Maybe they’ve never tipped any worker ever
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BenjaminIsaac 04/15/2023 8:22 PM
probably
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lai
College republican groups are pathetic
robin (they/it) 04/15/2023 8:34 PM
they are restarting the usc one
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cringe
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when i was at USC Upstate i tried disrupting TPUSA there as much as possible
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it was only like 5 members lmfao it was pathetic
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valid
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No idea how big ours is but I think most meetings r pretty sparse
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seb it/they 04/15/2023 9:01 PM
when we confronted them they were only able to scare up ~20 (edited)
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and that was very clearly all hands on deck
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tbh 20 might be an exaggeration??
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When I get to USC next semester I want to annoy the hell out of their meetings or protests or whatever dumb stuff
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seb it/they 04/15/2023 9:02 PM
come join us :)
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Oh of course i love deviancy and mischief
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my roommate will also be down ofc
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seb it/they 04/15/2023 9:03 PM
speaking of mischeif...we need to work on planning our counter to laura loomer more
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thats this tuesday
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and then de santis is directly after that
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My dad just coming in with "Russia's domestic abuse is overblown" and making apologia for Russian OMON cracking down on feminist protesters
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seb it/they 04/15/2023 9:04 PM
i do not feel like stuff is adequately prepaired right now
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My dad just coming in with "Russia's domestic abuse is overblown" and making apologia for Russian OMON cracking down on feminist protesters
seb it/they 04/15/2023 9:04 PM
yuck
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And he wonders why my sister refuses to talk to him
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lai
When I get to USC next semester I want to annoy the hell out of their meetings or protests or whatever dumb stuff
exciting what are you studying
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seb it/they
speaking of mischeif...we need to work on planning our counter to laura loomer more
In terms of "counter protesting" (i use this term lightly) ive always found the situationist international inspiring with repurposing capitalist media into something new and diverting attention from ~~
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exciting what are you studying
philosophy :)
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my dad used to teach a philosophy class when I was in elementary
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but that’s cool! happy to have you next year
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lai
In terms of "counter protesting" (i use this term lightly) ive always found the situationist international inspiring with repurposing capitalist media into something new and diverting attention from ~~
sometimes it can be really hard to be safe in SC with this kind of stuff sadly
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but that’s cool! happy to have you next year
tysm!
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lai
In terms of "counter protesting" (i use this term lightly) ive always found the situationist international inspiring with repurposing capitalist media into something new and diverting attention from ~~
seb it/they 04/15/2023 9:10 PM
I'm curious do you have any specific tactics in mind? I know about some of the historically used situationist tactics but in curious about what you're thinking here
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seb it/they
I'm curious do you have any specific tactics in mind? I know about some of the historically used situationist tactics but in curious about what you're thinking here
Thinking specifically about the DeSantis event it wouldnt be too hard to print out a bunch of pamphlets with trans media/satirical material and stand at the doors handing them out (ofc the cover and other stuff would look legit?)
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but outside of the actual events i think "legal street art" and just media around campus/town that makes people question these things are a great method of getting people actually involved with politics, besides just voting (edited)
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i dont have any experience organizing so take my words with a grain of salt
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seb it/they 04/15/2023 9:18 PM
No i think it's a pretty good idea tbh
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I don't think standing at the doors and handing out posters is super effective mostly just bc the people going to see De santis probably have drank the Kool aid a bit
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I'm coping with my best friend in the whole wide world
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someone that's always been there for me through thick and thin
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my truest of comrades
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400 Conejos Mezcal
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seb it/they 04/15/2023 9:21 PM
Sounds rough
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seb it/they
I don't think standing at the doors and handing out posters is super effective mostly just bc the people going to see De santis probably have drank the Kool aid a bit
yeah this is true ^^ Good to keep in mind for the future ofc
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seb it/they 04/15/2023 9:21 PM
Sorry your dad is being so shit priest
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seb it/they
Sounds rough
Mezcal is a glorious beverage
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seb it/they 04/15/2023 9:22 PM
Lol I can't argue with that
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If no one got me i know Sonic iced coffee got me
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(i am not of drinking age)
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seb it/they
Sorry your dad is being so shit priest
He's an arch-conservative whackjob to the point where I've had to sit and suffer through face to face meetings with none other than Nancy fucking Mace multiple times
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Oh i hate that vile lady
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seb it/they 04/15/2023 9:22 PM
Oh god
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I've met her multiple times personally
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seb it/they 04/15/2023 9:23 PM
If it makes you feel any better my step dad is an army lawyer who used to regularly make me go to dinner/work events with Alan Wilson
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My dad was a commie hippie psychologist he was awesome
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we need more good dads in this world
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lai
My dad was a commie hippie psychologist he was awesome
either0rgans 04/15/2023 9:32 PM
I got a question
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lai
yeah this is true ^^ Good to keep in mind for the future ofc
seb it/they 04/15/2023 9:32 PM
If you ever want to design posters like this you should put them up in #agit-prop, and we can print and distribute them
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either0rgans 04/15/2023 9:32 PM
What did he think about rfk,?
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Like what we all know and all
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Sorry working on paper about it
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either0rgans
What did he think about rfk,?
The person?
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either0rgans 04/15/2023 9:37 PM
The assassinstion sorry
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I’m not sure we never talked that much abt it
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Also ur super kewl I also like Deleuze
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either0rgans 04/15/2023 9:38 PM
Hell yeah difference and repetition
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Nothing harder than spelling detterourluzation
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either0rgans 04/15/2023 9:38 PM
Like all of him and guitar guys works have all the most miserable words
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I actually used to thing capitalism and schizophrenia was one of the worst things to ever befall the left but after getting a lil deep ....
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We have to turn into something
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lai
Nothing harder than spelling detterourluzation
Deterritorialization?
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Does anyone know if there are any orgs in York county or nearby that could help with mutual aid?
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@mutual_aid @Upstate SC
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Cyprus
Deterritorialization?
yes
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It's Theory Day at the Priest Household
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seb it/they 04/16/2023 2:10 PM
what theory are you reading?
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Does anyone know if there are any orgs in York county or nearby that could help with mutual aid?
puppygirl blair 04/16/2023 4:53 PM
I was wondering also. From york county myself
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Priest
It's Theory Day at the Priest Household
Let me read with you
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I need some help regarding a representative in North Carolina. Tricia Cotham recently changed parties and now any republican bills that come through WILL be passed. What can be done? I don’t know what to do.
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We currently have a total abortion ban trying to be passed next week & 7 anti trans bills in legislation. They will all be passed now
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ariawinter
Does anyone know if there are any orgs in York county or nearby that could help with mutual aid?
I'm in York County as well, I'm working on some stuff but don't have any concrete stuff anymore. What kind of Mutual aid stuff are you wanting to do? https://discord.gg/a9BqvU7J
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I'm in York County as well, I'm working on some stuff but don't have any concrete stuff anymore. What kind of Mutual aid stuff are you wanting to do? https://discord.gg/a9BqvU7J
seb it/they 04/16/2023 7:39 PM
@puppygirl blair too
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I'm in York County as well, I'm working on some stuff but don't have any concrete stuff anymore. What kind of Mutual aid stuff are you wanting to do? https://discord.gg/a9BqvU7J
Someone from the area reached out to us looking for resources in that area. I was able to find a few places in Charlotte that seemed helpful though.
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kylin.ambrose 04/16/2023 8:33 PM
sadly for us york folks, there isnt a ton of resources close by
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I went on the Balenciaga store site after seeing the memes on Twitter
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I am starting to think the Third-Worldists have a point
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Ugh I love balenciaga
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Fashion as an industry is a big problem, but oh it’s so pretty
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Look at this obnoxious bourgeois garment
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bigger eyelet
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Oh that’s hideous
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It's 1,850$, the price for a high quality AR-15
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WHAT
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whoever designed this needs to spend a year or two hitting sparrows with sticks and smelting iron in their backyard
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College republican groups are pathetic
AsterTheDisaster 04/16/2023 9:32 PM
The president is in three of my classes and I'm not looking forward to dealing with it.
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whoever designed this needs to spend a year or two hitting sparrows with sticks and smelting iron in their backyard
Ive seen middle schoolers with drawn on converses that look more stylish
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that's the thing you can just take a white paint marker to a pair of black boots
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Not gonna lie I'd wear those fr [i wouldnt pay even like 80 for em but like, i like em >< lol]
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Priest
whoever designed this needs to spend a year or two hitting sparrows with sticks and smelting iron in their backyard
The only way to get some culture is through great leaps 😤😤😤
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Camryn Aisling 04/16/2023 10:17 PM
Okay, real talk, I actually love this? Love the overall design of the shoe and the blueprint pattern speaks to the inner mythbuster in me. If an indie artist made this, I'd consider saving and buying it for maybe 200 bucks (I usually only buy shoes every few years, so this would be basically doubling my budget)
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No way in hell would I ever even remotely fantasize about buying it for $1,850
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I could take a shoemaking class, buy all the supplies myself, and pay myself above minimum wage and make my own pair for less than that
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Extremely high-end luxury fashion mystifies me
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cade (he/him) 04/16/2023 10:25 PM
i like the idea of the blueprint design but the executions ugly to me
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malachite
We currently have a total abortion ban trying to be passed next week & 7 anti trans bills in legislation. They will all be passed now
Watson Brown 04/16/2023 10:48 PM
We'll have to see how much her party switch affects the way that she had campaigned on these positions. Just because she's an R now instead of a D doesn't mean that she's a guaranteed vote on all legislation, in the same way that she sat out the vote on repealing pistol purchase permits that got all the libs angry at her before her switch, she may end up not giving the Rs the votes on those issues that she had claimed to feel strongly about. šŸ¤ž
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is the meeting over? arnold is in the vc
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seb it/they 04/17/2023 8:00 PM
yes
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@Arnold Karr Not sure if you are aware, but the meeting is over and you dont have to be in voice call (edited)
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Logan (he/him) 04/18/2023 12:17 AM
I put this in #in-person-protests but I'll post it here too. Location of Loomer event changed
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robin (they/it) 04/18/2023 8:22 AM
@everyone the Laura Loomer event is being moved to the graduate which is near capstone. this is where we will have the rally! show up bring your friends! the address is 1619 pendleton st
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James Harley 04/18/2023 9:08 AM
Today? (edited)
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James Harley 04/18/2023 9:08 AM
What time?
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Nico (she/her) 04/18/2023 9:10 AM
is it at 8 or 7, event says 7
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Flier says 8
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I think LL’s event starts at 8 so we should show up at 7
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That's still USC property right?
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Because hearing hotel my first thought was nazis will be bringing guns since it's now off campus, but i think that hotel is still USC right?
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It is USC property
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I doubt nazis will be bringing guns
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LL does have ties to proud boys but I’d be shocked if they showed up for this damn boom deal tour
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We could be wrong and should be prepared for that eventuality !
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But I don’t think that’s a major threat for this particular event
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Hailey (she/they) 04/18/2023 10:24 AM
Yeah I think it will be safe from that at least but still everyone stay safe and bring water and snacks
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Where legal, assume most people are carrying. Where illegal, assume some may be carrying, so be cautious as if others are. I believe people will be carrying at this event and we should totally tell the facilitators where we see right the nazis printing through their shirt 🤣🤣 Also wanted to bring that up so ppl in here would all be aware that they can't carry. Because if it was off USC property, I'd be carrying.
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solvent (they/she) 04/18/2023 9:24 PM
wish i could be there, solidarity yall
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Anyone wanna get food or drinks?
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Idk where we can lmao
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Hayden (he/they) 04/18/2023 10:13 PM
Sorry, got work
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/18/2023 10:16 PM
hope safe
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Can we go into aftercare shitpost mode
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She’s looming on my Laura
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She’s looming on my Laura
Ok, fine Anarkitty
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Meow
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Logan (he/him) 04/18/2023 10:50 PM
My favorite part was when she said "It's loomin time" and then loomed all over the place
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Neowww
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AsterTheDisaster 04/18/2023 10:51 PM
Another server I'm in does group scream time
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And we just aaaaaaaaaaaaa all together
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So true
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Yowl
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AsterTheDisaster 04/18/2023 10:52 PM
https://tenor.com/view/burn-elmo-pyro-burn-it-down-ashes-gif-5632946 [Elmo Infront of a burning background] (edited)
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Victor (they/them) 04/18/2023 10:52 PM
Meowzer
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I think I'm maxed out on screaming for the day
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AsterTheDisaster
Another server I'm in does group scream time
That sounds like hell, but fun for people who need it
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yeah my throat is crushed more screaming is not in the cards lmao
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robin (they/it) 04/18/2023 10:52 PM
i dont think i will be capable of speaking tomorrow
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Don't get stuck baby
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Victor (they/them) 04/18/2023 10:53 PM
I have to do a class presentation tomorrow aur naur
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AsterTheDisaster 04/18/2023 10:53 PM
Oh I meant like chat scream lol not actually screaming lol that would be too sensory for me.
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Victor (they/them)
I have to do a class presentation tomorrow aur naur
Go into it sounding like a mob boss who’s smoked six packs a day for the past sixty years (edited)
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my voice is an octave lower
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I'm thinking when I get home ima hop on tiktok live and read some theory, to decompress, I went to get cookout and a milkshake lol
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I love them and hope they are doing well
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need to take metal voice lessons to protest better
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I'm thinking when I get home ima hop on tiktok live and read some theory, to decompress, I went to get cookout and a milkshake lol
If you’re driving to cookout can you pick me up
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I need a cheerwine and a burger
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Cyprus
If you’re driving to cookout can you pick me up
I'm in the drive through, but I'll get you some and bring it to you
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need to take metal voice lessons to protest better
i used to be a vocalist in a metal band and i can still scream really good ^^
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free lessons ^_^
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For those with a shot throat, drink a lot of water like as much as you can lol. Don't have anything super hot or ice cold, those can trigger a nerve and shock your chords and it'll hurt like a bitch. If you have a humidifier, turn it on tonight. Try and speak the least amount as possible as you rest, but don't whisper (it causes more pain)
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i used to be a vocalist in a metal band and i can still scream really good ^^
omg i want to learn to death metal scream so bad
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For those with a shot throat, drink a lot of water like as much as you can lol. Don't have anything super hot or ice cold, those can trigger a nerve and shock your chords and it'll hurt like a bitch. If you have a humidifier, turn it on tonight. Try and speak the least amount as possible as you rest, but don't whisper (it causes more pain)
im a vocalist as well, this is a very common problem for me
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My throat is a lil sore, I do not throat music
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James Harley 04/18/2023 10:57 PM
I’m also a metal vocalist, same for me
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Roman
omg i want to learn to death metal scream so bad
Ive retired at the ripe age of 19 from screaming because it was hard to voice train while treating my throat so poorly
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so jealous of yall metal vocalists ;-;
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Metal vocalists are the throat goat
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I am so tired
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my voice is closer to jazz or broadway kind of loud pop
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not good at actual broadway leads, but aspects of them like those big swells are very fun
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my clean vocals have never been good so ive always been fine resigning myself to the guitar :D
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acoustic or electric?
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Both but i mainly play electric since my acoustic has been broken for a while now
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only singing practice i have is singing along to whatever i'm playing on the bass as a practice technique
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Thats always fun
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I play classical :3
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Classical guitar?
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Yes
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Thats so fucking awesome
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Ive taken a lot of influence from classical techniques
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I almost majored in it
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Im actually going to buy a nylon string because i prefer the sound so much
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They're nice
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seb it/they
I almost majored in it
i kinda wish i ended up majoring in music but i can always do that on the side
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You can do a lot of techniques you can't on electric/acoustic bc you'd shred your fingers
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Yeah exactly
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I love shredding solos on a nylon
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Sounds so good
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I need to practice ;-;
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Critical support to mike
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IVE BEEN SAYING THIS
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right wingers when they discover how awesome it is to meow and get scratched like a kitty 🤯
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/18/2023 11:05 PM
me when i discover this
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Can someone less eepy alt text I can’t type
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Idk where to put this but it looks neat and was shared with me
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CaptainHydration 04/19/2023 10:26 AM
How is everyone
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Tired tbh
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CaptainHydration 04/19/2023 10:28 AM
Same lol
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robin (they/it) 04/19/2023 10:28 AM
i should engage in screaming at laura loomer more often. voice euphoria popin off at the moment
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CaptainHydration 04/19/2023 10:29 AM
I have been out of the loop from local politics
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Can someone catch me up if they don’t mind?
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Trans bills bad
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CaptainHydration 04/19/2023 10:29 AM
Based
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Well I’m glad I have found a progressive space locally
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I’m really happy that we have local orgs going
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I’ve never been apart of a mutual aid oriented group so I’m not sure where to begin
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Stuff is a bit chaotic due to our recent action
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We have a to do list
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Which is pinned somewhere
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robin (they/it) 04/19/2023 10:33 AM
first step would be to read oat faq channel
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CaptainHydration 04/19/2023 10:34 AM
I’ll have to check that out
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And also weekly mutual aid meetings on Mondays at 6:30
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robin (they/it) 04/19/2023 10:34 AM
it has a lot of info and is somewhat new so if things dont make sense or are not helpful let us know
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CaptainHydration
I have been out of the loop from local politics
Most of the bad stuff died in committee and is tabled until next year, which is nice. However, an abortion bill and a CRT bill made it through the crossover, so it’s not all good
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robin (they/it) 04/19/2023 10:36 AM
in the faq page there are a bunch of our current projects if you have time to work on any of those the easiest way to get involved is to go to a meeting if you can
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Most of the bad stuff died in committee and is tabled until next year, which is nice. However, an abortion bill and a CRT bill made it through the crossover, so it’s not all good
CaptainHydration 04/19/2023 10:36 AM
Ofc CRT is a scapegoat so racism can be ignored in history right?
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Yes
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robin (they/it)
in the faq page there are a bunch of our current projects if you have time to work on any of those the easiest way to get involved is to go to a meeting if you can
CaptainHydration 04/19/2023 10:37 AM
Thank you robin
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robin (they/it) 04/19/2023 10:37 AM
yeah np
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also we really really need help in social media if you want to help with that
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CaptainHydration 04/19/2023 10:38 AM
I’m basically a boomer unfortunately
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There is a hate crimes bill that also made the hurdle, though, so that could be promising. It's not a lot and very well may not pass, but hey, it's not dead yet https://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess125_2023-2024/bills/3014.htm#:~:text=Pinckney%20Hate%20Crimes%20Act%2C%22%20which,or%20physical%20or%20mental%20disability.
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I’m basically a boomer unfortunately
robin (they/it) 04/19/2023 10:38 AM
it happens
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if you ever have an idea for a post (serious or fun) please let me know
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CaptainHydration 04/19/2023 10:40 AM
Thank you very much
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Right now the most I have been doing is deradicalizing cons and pushing political grillers into caring about trans/minority/workers rights
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Cons like conservatives or like conventions
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Or neocons
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Cons like conservatives or like conventions
CaptainHydration 04/19/2023 10:42 AM
Conservatives lol
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Okay lol
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Check Capt hydration out deradicalizing the anime nerds
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Tbh they could use it sometimes
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CaptainHydration 04/19/2023 10:43 AM
A X shall feel my wrath (jk) (edited)
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robin (they/it) 04/19/2023 10:43 AM
oh yeah it is probably important to mention that if you have any projects you want to work on just bring it up in the appropriate chat and there will likely be people who will want to help you.
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robin (they/it)
oh yeah it is probably important to mention that if you have any projects you want to work on just bring it up in the appropriate chat and there will likely be people who will want to help you.
CaptainHydration 04/19/2023 10:43 AM
Thank you. I’m very pleased with the level of organization here
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robin (they/it) 04/19/2023 10:45 AM
if you want to know the robin emoji code it is pinned in this channel
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it has kind of been adopted by many oat members
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CaptainHydration 04/19/2023 10:46 AM
I thought they wanted to bone me LMAO
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I was so confused
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Where could I get some of those oat stickers?
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@Kiral @Caboose
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I want to sprinkle some around clemson
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Roman
I want to sprinkle some around clemson
I have some however I am in Columbia
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I also have a bunch for trans flag ones
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Also in cola ;-;
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proud supporter of the OATBert Liberation Front
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I think the cola and Clemson people should do an event together
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Meet halfway
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See each other's faces
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In greenwood
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Exchange stickers
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Oh god don't make me go to greenwood
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All of the towns between here and Clemson are hellish
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Nico (she/her) 04/19/2023 10:58 AM
We can visit Verdin's Garden center in Laurens
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Unironically this
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Meet halfway
Meet in a field equidistant from either campus Fight to the death, best university gets to stay, the other has to leave the state forever
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i think equidistant is actually a national forest, so we'd basically have an obstacle course
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We could do a camping trip
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That would be so cool 😭
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Ooo camping trip
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Trans woods party
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ive been to go camping
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fiending to go camping
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doing my estrogen injection in a shitty tent in the middle of nowhere
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Hayden (he/they) 04/19/2023 11:03 AM
I think Newberry is about in the middle
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lumenbos (they/he) 04/19/2023 11:04 AM
camping would be awesome
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Hayden (he/they) 04/19/2023 11:04 AM
And we have the congaree campout in june
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lai
doing my estrogen injection in a shitty tent in the middle of nowhere
Sooo true
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i gotta do my injection today and ive been putting it off for every waking minute
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That's such a mood
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I'm a little scaredy cat when it comes to my shot
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ive never messed up with it but last time i had my leg too tense so it hurt going in
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at least its only every 10 days instead of every 3 like with estradiol valerate
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Lol I don't do mine i make my partner do it
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The one time i did it myself i passed out ;-;
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lumenbos (they/he) 04/19/2023 11:12 AM
oh no ;-; my partner struggles like that too
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robin (they/it) 04/19/2023 11:12 AM
vagal responses
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She’s responding on my vagal
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Yeah my vagal nerve is way fucked up
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seb it/they
Ooo camping trip
Camping trip for the country mice, a nice brunch for the city mice
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Nico (she/her) 04/19/2023 11:13 AM
what is a vagal
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Fainting
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Oh wait I'm doing a school project on it rn
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Do you want vagal nerve info dump
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lumenbos (they/he) 04/19/2023 11:14 AM
yes pls
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needles blehhh
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Let me boot up my laptop so I can actually type
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seb it/they
Do you want vagal nerve info dump
Nico (she/her) 04/19/2023 11:15 AM
yes
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lumenbos (they/he) 04/19/2023 11:15 AM
I'm glad I can do my shot sub q and I'm finally figuring out how to do it without really feeling it
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Roman
Where could I get some of those oat stickers?
i mailed some to @AsterTheDisaster last week, they should get em soon to give to under the umbrella folx!
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Irabella (Leilah)(she/fae) 04/19/2023 11:17 AM
I did my first self subq last week and I still get a little faint thinking about it lol
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okay so the vagal nerve, also known as "the great wanderer" controls a signifcant portion of the autonomic nervous system. The autonomic nervous system controls all things automatic in your body, like digestion, breathing, heart rate, and blood pressure (among others) it innervates the lungs, stomach, diaphram and many other areas and can be stimulated by strong emotions, breathing in specific patterns, the mammalian diving reflex and some breathing exercises
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robin (they/it) 04/19/2023 11:18 AM
doctor and body stuff i have vagal responses and one time passed out for several minutes and had "seizure-like activity" but ive passed out because of it normally a couple of times. the hospital told me that i might just have "seizure-like activity" occasionally when i get triggered or what ever. which is kinda scary so im avoiding passing out as much as i can
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it's thought to possibly be responsible for some of the link between emotions and physical responses to them
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tw also doctor/body stuff emto i have dysautonomia and vagal responses too, and have passed out and had seziure like activity from my T injections, and also randmonly, it's also triggered cyclic vomiting and gastroparesis for me before
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very intense stuff
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lumenbos (they/he) 04/19/2023 11:38 AM
huh I've never heard of this but it's very interesting to me. I wonder if my partner has something going on with this as well because has a lot of intense bodily reactions and shutdowns to emotions. he's never passed out before that I'm aware of but he can get dizzy spells, nausea, etc.
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yeah that sounds like it could be vagal nerve response
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there are some ways to regulate it/help ive found
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mine also ties into my POTS/dysautonomia
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lumenbos (they/he) 04/19/2023 11:40 AM
I'll talk about this with him and see what he thinks :0 He or I might DM about regulating tips
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cool, my dms are definately open about this :3
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/19/2023 12:18 PM
do we think it’s still worth it going to desantis?
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it’s a long drive for me, so if there are 4 others attending i will probably go
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Roman
Where could I get some of those oat stickers?
I'm in columbia, I could bring you some tonight after work
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Meet in a field equidistant from either campus Fight to the death, best university gets to stay, the other has to leave the state forever
I think the best one would prefer to leave the state 🤣🤣
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I'll talk about this with him and see what he thinks :0 He or I might DM about regulating tips
can we have a chat or something, i also struggle with POTS/dysautonomia/vagal issues šŸ˜‚
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 2:06 PM
Yooo
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(the spoon is a disabled spoon not a zad spoon) (edited)
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers)
do we think it’s still worth it going to desantis?
My bf and I might be going to the DeSantis protest,its at my old church so it's right nearby me
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robin (they/it) 04/19/2023 2:39 PM
i was going to go but im exhausted from yesterday and have home work :(
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I'm in columbia, I could bring you some tonight after work
I'm in clemson lol
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Thank you though, but if Aster got some for UTU, I'll end up taking some then
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i mailed some to @AsterTheDisaster last week, they should get em soon to give to under the umbrella folx!
AsterTheDisaster 04/19/2023 3:55 PM
Omg so exciting
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Thank you though, but if Aster got some for UTU, I'll end up taking some then
UTU?
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Under the Umbrella, trans clemson org
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Ohhh thank you ā¤ļø I only just heard about them for the first time recently 😦 can you send me an invite to the discord if they have one?
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and am i welcome as a cis person or is it a trans safe space?
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I think you'd have to ask @AsterTheDisaster, they're actually the pres of the org
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Ty ā¤ļø
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@seb it/they I was going to add myself to the mutual aid skill list but it's view only
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 6:51 PM
Hm strange
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@Moderator can someone else look into this
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I'm getting dinner atm
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@seb it/they I was going to add myself to the mutual aid skill list but it's view only
robin (they/it) 04/19/2023 6:55 PM
do you have access to other stuff in the drive ?
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@seb it/they I was going to add myself to the mutual aid skill list but it's view only
Everyone in the Drive currently is an editor, but anyone with the link is a viewer. If you don't mind, DM me your gmail and I can add you as an editor
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Everyone in the Drive currently is an editor, but anyone with the link is a viewer. If you don't mind, DM me your gmail and I can add you as an editor
Me too?
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Me too?
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I also gave access to whoever requested on it
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/19/2023 8:47 PM
Country music star Zach Bryan showed solidarity with the transgender community by publicly criticizing his fellow musicians for their intolerance of transgender people. #transtwitter https://t.co/sn4QPkLSSc
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Matt Cox he/him 04/19/2023 8:49 PM
Him and Orville Peck
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/19/2023 8:50 PM
Any updates on Sturgill and Tyler Childers???
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Matt Cox he/him 04/19/2023 8:51 PM
We are gathering quite the hoe-down
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A-A-Ron (they/them)
Hank Williams III too! (edited)
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Matt Cox he/him 04/19/2023 8:51 PM
Third times the charm
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Hank Williams III too! (edited)
DAMN i looked him up to confirm i had it right but hes a racist (despite being supportive of trans people?)
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/19/2023 8:54 PM
Whelp, nvm.
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 8:54 PM
someone get dolly on the line
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if she's not supportive of trans people i will DIE
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seb it/they
if she's not supportive of trans people i will DIE
She very much is
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 8:56 PM
good.
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/19/2023 8:57 PM
I know she said something about drag shows, did she say something about trans people though?
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Dolly is a modern Mother Teresa, except not actually a monster who took pleasure in the suffering of others Probably
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 8:57 PM
my step mom met her once
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said she is the real deal
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/19/2023 8:58 PM
I would imagine she's very live and let live, but whether she'd openly show support is always hard to predict. She is a capitalist after all. Gotta pick her battles (edited)
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 8:58 PM
and i believe my step mom, she's got an grade A bullshit detector
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/19/2023 8:59 PM
Oh, that's the one impression I always get from Dolly.
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https://countryqueer.com/stories/article/dolly-partons-all-embracing-country-vision/ ā€Dolly’s support for LGBTQ has also explicitly included trans people, which she made clear as early as 1994 in the Q&A section of her autobiography.In 2016 in response to transgender toilet bans, Dolly was equally unequivocal about her support for trans people as she was about marriage equality, telling CNN: ā€œI hope that everybody gets a chance to be who and what they are.ā€
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/19/2023 9:00 PM
Thank you for introducing this website to me as well.
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Also, since we are on the topic: She Returns From War is a Americana/swamp country artist from Charleston who is trans and amazing. Just btw.
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In case y'all have heard
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@everyone please stay clear of the OAT Twitter replies and quote retweets, there is a lot of vitriolic hatred being spread currently, take care of your selves!
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Also, since we are on the topic: She Returns From War is a Americana/swamp country artist from Charleston who is trans and amazing. Just btw.
seb it/they 04/19/2023 9:17 PM
we should reach out to her
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/19/2023 9:18 PM
On it!
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 9:19 PM
yeah any trans musicians in/from sc are on my "to contact" list
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or artists tbh
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/19/2023 9:19 PM
What do I say though??? She's semi-famous I'm nervous
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"hey love your music, check us out plz"
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robin (they/it) 04/19/2023 9:20 PM
char has a music friend idk if shes in sc but there was a thing about it in queer joy a long time ago
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What do I say though??? She's semi-famous I'm nervous
robin (they/it) 04/19/2023 9:20 PM
ask if we can do a post about her music as a queer joy thing
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/19/2023 9:21 PM
Great idea!
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robin (they/it) 04/19/2023 9:22 PM
and probably say something else @seb it/they why do we want to contact trans artist ? this sounds dumb but like i dont know what other words there are
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 9:22 PM
because they are cool and should be against transphobia in sc
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both to promote queer joy/art/culture
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and bc they might have followings who would be responsive to oat
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that sounds cynical though
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basically i want to talk to the cool trans people because they know more cool trans people
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robin (they/it) 04/19/2023 9:24 PM
be like hey im aaron from oat im a big fan can we do a post about you for trans joy and if you are interested in organizing with oat heres the link thank you so much for your consideration
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but like make it good
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/19/2023 9:25 PM
I wish I could send her a link of the review I wrote about one of her albums years ago 😩 (edited)
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But yeah, I'll work my magic
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 9:26 PM
you've got this
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worst case scenario she just doesnt respond and then nothing is different
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/19/2023 9:26 PM
I'm used to that from musicians, I'll be fine lol
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I know of a few bands in the local DIY/punk-adjacent scene that have trans members or explicitly pro-trans goals
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 9:30 PM
send them oat
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please
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Will do my best
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@Lowcountry SC hey yall im in charleston rn and looking to chill/crash somewhere, anyone able to help? (edited)
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transphobic brother is home otherwise id offer you my couch
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thanks, id just drive home to cola but i dont feel safe on the interstate this late ;-;
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//err just driving at all at night in unfamiliar places rly//
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@Lowcountry SC hey yall im in charleston rn and looking to chill/crash somewhere, anyone able to help? (edited)
Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/19/2023 11:21 PM
Emma(JingerPi) and i have an extra couch on the peninsula, i’m not sure if you found a place already but if you need to crash here please shoot one of us a dm!
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers)
Emma(JingerPi) and i have an extra couch on the peninsula, i’m not sure if you found a place already but if you need to crash here please shoot one of us a dm!
thank you so much! i found a place but really appreciate it
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we surpassed 300 members!! cool!
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cade (he/him) 04/20/2023 12:03 AM
that’s a lotta oats
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Whole bowl of cereal
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Take notes
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seb it/they 04/20/2023 8:33 AM
What's next banana peels /joke
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In the future getting band people to help is a really good idea
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@George (He/They)
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robin (they/it) 04/20/2023 8:36 AM
do we need to start collecting marbles ? oh no i just have to use up thousands of cans of spray paint and smash the cans to get marbles out . so sad (sarcasm)
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seb it/they 04/20/2023 8:36 AM
Alternatively we could just throw a queer punk show right outside
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Plssss
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Mosh against transphobia
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seb it/they 04/20/2023 8:37 AM
I also appreciate the blocking of exit
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robin (they/it)
do we need to start collecting marbles ? oh no i just have to use up thousands of cans of spray paint and smash the cans to get marbles out . so sad (sarcasm)
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SHAT skinheads against transphobia (edited)
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where's the R from
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robin (they/it) 04/20/2023 8:38 AM
where is the r from
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seb it/they 04/20/2023 8:38 AM
Oh no
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shouldn't it be SHAT
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robin (they/it)
where is the r from
jinx
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Miscalculated on how the sharp acronym worked
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seb it/they 04/20/2023 8:39 AM
It could be skinheads against racism and transphobia
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Oh wait I'm dyslexic nvm
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Shart
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This works best actually
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seb it/they 04/20/2023 8:40 AM
Wait now it works
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yes you are correct
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seb it/they
It could be skinheads against racism and transphobia
this is shart
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We’ve achieved SHART yippee
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also Sharks Against Racism and Transphobia 🦈
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love this animals the shart
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seb it/they 04/20/2023 8:40 AM
I'm so proud of us 😌
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lumenbos (they/he) 04/20/2023 8:41 AM
forcing them to walk through a gauntlet of shame is chef kisses
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They didn’t even make them walk through a gauntlet they simply didn’t let them leave
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robin (they/it) 04/20/2023 8:42 AM
they could leave they just might get marbled
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robin (they/it) 04/20/2023 8:43 AM
i one time petted a black tip shark and my mom got mad at me for almost getting nommed
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comrade kalia (she/her) 04/20/2023 9:02 AM
happy 420 everyone friendly reminder not to tell your boss you celebrate devils cabbage day
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comrade kalia (she/her) 04/20/2023 9:32 AM
also not sure where to put emoji requests anymore but consider: custom reacc of oatbert smoking a spliff
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seb it/they 04/20/2023 9:32 AM
I think we can't bc drug stuff generally needs to be spoiled
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And you can spoil emojis
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*cant
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we do have this one tho which contains a thing that is normally spoiled defense
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we should make a wiki page on OAT
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comrade kalia (she/her) 04/20/2023 10:08 AM
unrelated but fun government contractor problems: i am applying for a public trust certificate, and i have to list a person who can verify that i live/have lived at an address except it can’t be the person i live with, a family member, or ā€œanyone else listed on this formā€ (which also includes a section where i have to add ā€œthree people who know you wellā€)
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tl;dr is i don’t know enough people irl i guess
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@Bernie i think it's fine to spread out of state (moving out of announcements)
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Didn't even realise that was announcements, the horror
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@Bernie i think it's fine to spread out of state (moving out of announcements)
And good, I have far too many friends and servers on this cursed platform to not coerce people into putting their names on this
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WAHOO 420
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We are now in the ā€œturn your neighbor in to the state for being transā€ stage of genocide. Also, if you have some free time please feel free to fuck up this disgusting police state informer website.
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We will build a world from the rubble that these people make and one day, 20 years from now, when this is all just a terrible memory, we will be proud of the work that we are doing today. Stay strong y'all.
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Hassan he/him 04/20/2023 5:15 PM
Guys what’s the best channel to send vids from last event on here
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We want to spread it out as much as we can
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seb it/they 04/20/2023 5:16 PM
i would say #social-media
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but #in-person-protests also works
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Hassan he/him 04/20/2023 5:21 PM
Sent them on #social-media
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https://atlantaantifa.org/2023/04/19/inside-southern-sons-active-club-part-i/ cw nazism, neo confederacy mentions, etc atlanta anti fascists infiltrated some local nazi groups ^^^
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Arnold Karr 04/20/2023 6:15 PM
I'm at the amphitheater - now what?
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Hayden (he/they) 04/20/2023 6:15 PM
Sorry Arnold, we went ahead and called it off due to low numbers
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I shot you a text, I should have done so on here as well
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Arnold Karr 04/20/2023 6:29 PM
Is anyone hungry? I made enough creamed potatoes carrots and peas for at least 10. I'll come a reasonable distance to deliver. I'm at riverfront park.
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Arnold Karr
Is anyone hungry? I made enough creamed potatoes carrots and peas for at least 10. I'll come a reasonable distance to deliver. I'm at riverfront park.
Nico (she/her) 04/20/2023 6:34 PM
I'll take some, I don't live too far from there, I can dm you my address
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Arnold Karr 04/20/2023 6:35 PM
Ok
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https://atlantaantifa.org/2023/04/19/inside-southern-sons-active-club-part-i/ cw nazism, neo confederacy mentions, etc atlanta anti fascists infiltrated some local nazi groups ^^^
lmao'ing at this alt text: "Tyler Dykes presented himself as an expert in operational security to SSAC. We were easily able to identify 'Nocturnal Wolf' as Dykes after he posted an old, insufficiently redacted advertisement for his cyber-security business to SSAC's vetted chat on March 12, 2023" images showing the improperly redacted image, along with the original advertisement showing his identity with the caption "The 'redacted' advertisement alongside the advertisement we found with less than five touch pad clicks" (edited)
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lmao'ing at this alt text: "Tyler Dykes presented himself as an expert in operational security to SSAC. We were easily able to identify 'Nocturnal Wolf' as Dykes after he posted an old, insufficiently redacted advertisement for his cyber-security business to SSAC's vetted chat on March 12, 2023" images showing the improperly redacted image, along with the original advertisement showing his identity with the caption "The 'redacted' advertisement alongside the advertisement we found with less than five touch pad clicks" (edited)
seb it/they 04/20/2023 6:49 PM
Can you add alt
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yeah one second
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Nico (she/her) 04/20/2023 7:01 PM
The creamed potatoes are delicious Arnold thanks so much
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cade (he/him) 04/20/2023 10:45 PM
that dylan guy has posted pics of him with K*LE R#TTENHOUSE???
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have you no shame? are you not embarrassed?
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they both look like dreamworks characters in that photo
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cade (he/him) 04/20/2023 10:46 PM
it’s the fucking expression, all in the eyebrows
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early dreamworks too like that uncanny valley cgi human shit
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/21/2023 12:57 PM
The Montana American Indian Caucus has issued a formal statement condemning "both the Montana Freedom Caucus, in calling for the censure of Rep. Zephyr, and the Speaker of House, for refusing to recognize her to speak on the floor." #mtnews
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Camryn Aisling 04/21/2023 9:06 PM
Why does the instruction post in #verification link to an #Unknown channel?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/21/2023 9:07 PM
fixed
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thanks for letting us know
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robin (they/it) 04/21/2023 9:25 PM
maybe im crazy but im pretty sure vent is just gone
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seb it/they 04/21/2023 9:26 PM
I can see it
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I think it might have accidently been made mods only
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robin (they/it) 04/21/2023 9:26 PM
well i want to be zad too >:( (joke)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/21/2023 9:29 PM
😭
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i mighta broken something
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I fixed it where everyone but new members can see now
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/21/2023 9:30 PM
i think that did it
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Hassan he/him 04/21/2023 10:45 PM
Anyone going to hidden city festival tomorrow & know how one can buy discounted tickets ?
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George (He/They) 04/21/2023 10:45 PM
No but I got free food for posting about it on my Instagram story
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Hassan he/him 04/21/2023 10:49 PM
A girl gave me a card with some qr which i trashed.
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By scanning it u can get discount something like that
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BenjaminIsaac 04/22/2023 8:54 AM
How much should you describe people in alt text? Like skin color, assumed age, hair color? Or just what they’re doing in the photo? I feel like I’m much better with pictures of animals lol
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seb it/they 04/22/2023 8:56 AM
Generally skin color is suggested
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I've not seen assumed age, but i have seen like "old, young, middle aged"
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Hair color can be described if its relevant to the photo or central
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BenjaminIsaac 04/22/2023 9:06 AM
ok thanks!
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seb it/they 04/22/2023 9:11 AM
Yeah
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When the semester is over I will work on finding/working with some people to write a clear guide on how to write alt text and use it in discord
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I've just been swamped
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Hope it’s real
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The state Senator doesn’t really have an incentive to fake it (edited)
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Reminds me a little of when Nancy mace faked graffiti on her house
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And blamed ā€œCharleston antifaā€
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even if it is fake who cares, the message is true
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Let trans people have agency to fuck shit up
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also i doubt that a transphobic senator has knowledge of bash back
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lai
And blamed ā€œCharleston antifaā€
Jonah Glover 04/22/2023 9:52 AM
There is Charleston antifa? 🤨
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It’s complicated
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yes it's me
09:52
im antifa everywhere
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Jonah Glover 04/22/2023 9:53 AM
Can I join
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Be the change you want to see in the world
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Look in the mirror and say antifa 4 times
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seb it/they 04/22/2023 9:53 AM
P sure if you're in Charleston
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And you're against fascism
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You're already part of Charleston antifa
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Unironically, get your friends together and fight fash (tear down stickers, train, learn how to dox people.) that’s all there is to being antifa
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yes it's me
No you're not I'm antifa
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BenjaminIsaac 04/22/2023 9:54 AM
mom said it’s my turn to be antifa
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I have no connections in Charleston anymore because all my friends moved away but I’ve done my best donating to FNB and stuff
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seb it/they 04/22/2023 9:56 AM
Wow looks like you and Jonah could maybe work together ;)
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Charleston antifa official chapter
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seb it/they 04/22/2023 9:57 AM
No you cant be offical
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Every club meeting we say the pledge of allieganxe to the trans flag
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seb it/they 04/22/2023 9:57 AM
That's against the antifa rules (joking) (edited)
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This is the only flag I have right now do I need different communist ones to be antifa
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Jonah Glover 04/22/2023 9:58 AM
I always thought antifa were middle school goths after college
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seb it/they 04/22/2023 9:58 AM
;-;
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Jonah Glover 04/22/2023 9:58 AM
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Literally me
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seb it/they 04/22/2023 9:58 AM
How did you know I was a middle school goth i don't like this
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lai
This is the only flag I have right now do I need different communist ones to be antifa
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Simple but very meaningful flag
09:59
Solidarity with ezln always
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seb it/they
How did you know I was a middle school goth i don't like this
Jonah Glover 04/22/2023 9:59 AM
¯\_(惄)_/¯
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Whenever there’s a hardcore show in Charleston you’re only allowed in if you show your antifa id :/
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I can't attend live music due to covid
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But
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Jonah Glover 04/22/2023 10:01 AM
Just tell them you ate a bucket of fascists with no milk
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If there was an oat hardcore show I would be so Happy
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I need to get a hazmat suit so I can go
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I have a hardcore/skramz band in the works ā˜ļø
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Oat show will definitely become a reality
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What if you made masks mandatory and also had ventilation/outside
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I’m in an emo/grunge/punk project that could probably play
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seb it/they
What if you made masks mandatory and also had ventilation/outside
Yeah of course!!!
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oat festival 2k23
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OATfest (edited)
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Pretty sure there are other people in here who have bands too
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We could use it as a fundraiser for something
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@A-A-Ron (they/them) we gotta get our ska tribute band back up and running for oatfest
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/22/2023 10:28 AM
I literally know nothing about ska lol don't include me in this bit
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I've got a saxophone though šŸ¤·šŸ»
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@A-A-Ron (they/them) we gotta get our ska tribute band back up and running for oatfest
James Harley 04/22/2023 10:28 AM
When’s OATfest?
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What if July
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James Harley 04/22/2023 10:29 AM
I’ll be here in July
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Oh that's right James you also have a band
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if its in columbia i could see if i could make it in july
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We'd have to find a venue
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Ideally outdoors
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seb it/they
Oh that's right James you also have a band
James Harley 04/22/2023 10:40 AM
Correct
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me and declan found this really secluded spot at usc upstate that would be perfect for a rave or punk show but unfortunately thats in spartanburg
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Lol I can play classical guitar /joke
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I'd be willing to go upstate
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Yeah we could make it a one day thing but also find space to camp so people could make it from fair away
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its definnitely campable
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we didnt get pictures but basically
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theres this disc golf course on upstate's campus
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and we were walking the trails by it
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and like you know power lines between trees right
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where they clear trees
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we went over that and found this cleared out place behind lots of tree cover
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im not sure if it would be considered tresspassing to do anything back there
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Yeah I don’t want us to have to interact with law enforcement
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We could find a venue space in cola or somewhere
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we'd need electrical
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so we just need open outside place + electricty
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ideally it could be accesible to wheelchair users/ people with mobility issues too
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Lmao what if we did it at the statehouse
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The State House has that, and as long as it’s not during a session noise isn’t too much of an issue
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And it’s accessible
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lOLLL
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a punk show on the statehouse grounds
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A (state)house party
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Would they let us mosh
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Could they stop you?
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Interacting with law enforcement bad ngl
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also there's always cops everywhere
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yeah
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i'd rather people not have to interact with cops if they don't have to
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Could they stop you?
James Harley 04/22/2023 11:28 AM
No one can stop a mosh pit
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we could do russell patio
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but idk if they're prepaired for moshing either
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I can reach out to music people in Columbia and find a house with a backyard
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James Harley 04/22/2023 11:29 AM
How about the New Brookland Tavern
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not outside
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seb it/they
we could do russell patio
They would never let moshing happen either
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yeah its sad
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I wanna get fuckin crowdkilled
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At the trans benefit show
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Verb 1) When at a hardcore/metalcore show someone hardcore dances along the the boarder of the mosh pit with the intent of hitting the crowd. Crowd killers apparently believe that it is not hardcore to not participate in dancing when at hardcore shows. Ironically crowd killer toughness is questionable (it would be socially unnacceptable for a me...
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Definition of term so it isn’t as concerning
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I was going to say, you’d have to become the trans we’re benefitting
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we could set up like a clothing swap/art swap thing beforehand
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Or have vendors at show
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for people who can't do loud noise but still want to particpate
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James Harley 04/22/2023 11:32 AM
Like a Wall of Death
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and i'd want to have ear plugs avalable/ a good sensory space bc so many people in here are autisitic and loud noise = overstimulating
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seb it/they
we could set up like a clothing swap/art swap thing beforehand
We could add that to the Mother’s Day event too?
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we'd have to find artists willing to come
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tbh i'd like to do free swaps more than selling stuff, or if we're selling stuff it's for a good cause
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i don't want it to become "you have to buy things to participate"
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James Harley
How about the New Brookland Tavern
Too expensive for us probably
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(i am broke as fuck)
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We need somewhwre free preferably
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NBT requires an insurance deposit it would have to be a diy venue
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Maybe NoMa warehouse?
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seb it/they
we'd have to find artists willing to come
I’m sure newgrounds death rugby would be down if I reached out
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@marcy
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lai
Too expensive for us probably
James Harley 04/22/2023 11:37 AM
Yeah true
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seb it/they
we'd have to find artists willing to come
James Harley 04/22/2023 11:38 AM
I know a band that could possibly play
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i'd like to proritize queer bands speicifcally
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or like bands with queer/trans people in them
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seb it/they
tbh i'd like to do free swaps more than selling stuff, or if we're selling stuff it's for a good cause
Very much this, and not having monetary exchanges opens up more places we’d be allowed to host events (can’t sell stuff at the state house and parks are weird about it)
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yeah
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i'd be willing to collect donations though and shuffle it all to the Trans love fund
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or peoples gofundmes/venmos/cashapps etc
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Yeah it could be suggested donation based
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robin (they/it) 04/22/2023 11:41 AM
how legit artist does one have to be to contribute art to art swap ?
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i would say literally anyone can contribute
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also fiber arts/sculpture/pins stickers buttons whatever are cool
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We can also talk to people at yallmart
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And see if they would be willing to also donate art/ bring their band/ whatever
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robin (they/it) 04/22/2023 11:46 AM
i have only ever given out my art as gifts and i have weird feelings about considering my art to have monetary value but i can contribute things
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I mean if it's an art swap we would be trading art around
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I give u one art and you give me one art
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Or I give you a cool shirt and you give me an art
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Etc
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robin (they/it) 04/22/2023 11:48 AM
i understand now i thought it was i give you art you give to someone else's venmo/trans love
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We could also do that, but don't necessarily have to
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An alternative arrangement is art swap beforehand
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We can do both
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And then vendors/donation art during/after
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the main thing to figure out rn is location
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tbh
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Maybe NoMa warehouse?
where is this/how would we try to get it booked?
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robin (they/it) 04/22/2023 12:09 PM
beginnings of a graphic alt: "OAT music festival and fundraiser to help our trans community" in big pink letters with white highlight. oatbert holding a red guitar against a pink background "art and clothing swap too" background of the graphic is yellow flowers in the weeds
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beginnings of a graphic alt: "OAT music festival and fundraiser to help our trans community" in big pink letters with white highlight. oatbert holding a red guitar against a pink background "art and clothing swap too" background of the graphic is yellow flowers in the weeds
Oatbert has so many talents
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robin (they/it) 04/22/2023 12:12 PM
if oatbert doesnt perform i will be so zad
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/22/2023 12:12 PM
fast tracking the oatbert fursuit
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we discussed design ideas
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the main issue is being able to see in it
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robin (they/it) 04/22/2023 12:17 PM
oatbert is blind and has a service dog (edited)
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the service dog's name is oatis
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Dogbert?
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Bernie
Dogbert?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
fast tracking the oatbert fursuit
life sized Oatbert puppet the actual size of the state
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Irabella (Leilah)(she/fae) 04/22/2023 12:54 PM
Oatbert's set starts with some Pete Seeger and ends with Killing in The Name
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https://singlelogin.me/ I don't know where else to put this but the new link to Z Library if anyone needs it (edited)
Z-Library Project | Z-Library. Download books for free. Find books
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Camryn Aisling 04/23/2023 12:47 AM
I think the luka account posting for entry was created literally an hour ago
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Luka is a friend of mine
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Camryn Aisling 04/23/2023 12:48 AM
Ah, sorry, I got a bit worried because one of my other servers was getting raided by russian bots
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I thought they had followed me here toadsweat
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fast tracking the oatbert fursuit
AsterTheDisaster 04/23/2023 2:14 AM
YES
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šŸ”„ Apr 21, 2023 - From It's Going Down - Share This: twitter facebook Report on recent demonstrations in Pittsburgh against anti-trans grifter Michael Knowles. The rise of fascism and transphobia is an existential threat to the queer and trans community. As anarchists, we must overcome not only our enemies who want us dead, but also our so-called...
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robin (they/it) 04/23/2023 8:43 AM
hey @everyone we have a new and improved todo list up and running! i would like to direct everyone to check it out and maybe claim a project or reach out to someone who is already leading a project to see what is needed. we have a lot of big plans and projects to work on if you have the ability to do so we could really use all the hands we can get . https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1g6qnNNGIvnSntU4l_Tt1OhU_eVxnS_4HJSw1UO4Cm9g/edit#gid=0
todo info,dates,people,links category,urgency,status,summary,start,goal,ended,contact,others,document,other mutual aid,critical,working,mother's day celebration,bernie mutual aid,critical,working,yallmart,seb social media,critical,working,post consistently,robin org building,critical,todo,set up...
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oh also if you have things that need to be added to the todo list feel free to do that :)
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looks like the separate tabs are broken right now for some reason
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working on fixing that rn
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fixed šŸ‘
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robin (they/it) 04/23/2023 8:51 AM
thanks felix <3
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i just added a button that lets you sort the spreadsheet by urgency and status
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it'll also sort itself automatically every thirty minutes
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beginnings of a graphic alt: "OAT music festival and fundraiser to help our trans community" in big pink letters with white highlight. oatbert holding a red guitar against a pink background "art and clothing swap too" background of the graphic is yellow flowers in the weeds
one suggestion; I'd put a white rectangle behind the text instead of a highlight and maybe pick a friendly font ā¤ļø (edited)
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I added contacting ASL interpreters to the to do list but it might be less important if we don't know of anyone who would benefit from that service at the moment. if that makes sense. Like do we want to contact interpreters as we find out someone is interested in going to an event who prefers ASL interpreting/as needed? I also marked it as mutual aid, let me know if there's a better category for accessibility to do's šŸ™‚ (edited)
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I think that we should just make our events as accessible as possible tbh
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like i don't want Deaf people to have to do any extra work to attend our events
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the same for any disability
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idk if that's realisitic, but it's my long term goal to just have it included
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That's a great point. maybe hard to achieve but we can definitely strive for it ā¤ļø
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i put some of the discord accesibility to do's under mods
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but i almost feel it should be it's own category
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Yeah maybe we can make it's own at this point
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i think felix is doing that rn
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I see it now, bet! I'll change some i spot to it
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i would also include welcom committee stuff under accesibility
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ive already started a habit of adding alt text to any image i post because of being asked to here so thats a start to being a disability inclusive space
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Yeah maybe we can make it's own at this point
anyone can edit the data validation rules to add other categories, but i ask that people mention it first so we can avoid cluttering everything
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also please don't mess with the rules for status and urgency because i carefully picked those to be lexicographically sortable
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they also have conditional formatting set up based on those keys, so stuff wouldn't highlight or anything
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robin (they/it) 04/23/2023 4:16 PM
hey @JessicaM , @lumenbos (they/he) , @sage 🌿 thanks for signing up for making business cards, @Kiral already designed some we just need to actually print and cut them out in cardstock i believe
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seb it/they 04/23/2023 8:19 PM
we have 99 they/them pronoun users in the org
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and i'm waiting for it to hit 100
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Nico (she/her) 04/23/2023 8:19 PM
does the 100th they/them get a prize
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seb it/they 04/23/2023 8:20 PM
i don't think we have a way of figuring out who it would be
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only way to tell is if it was a new person who joined or by comparing a snapshot of the current list
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lankyy_luka(they/them) 04/23/2023 8:52 PM
For the todo list. Since this org goes across state how exactly do yall want to organize the potluck?
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seb it/they 04/23/2023 8:53 PM
we've done several in cola already, i think that's a somewhat outdated todo
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i would make a new todo for your area
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lankyy_luka(they/them) 04/23/2023 8:54 PM
I can do that 🄺🄺
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seb it/they 04/23/2023 8:56 PM
We generally coordinate stuff like that at our mutual aid meeting on Mondays
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Hayden (he/they) 04/23/2023 8:57 PM
For the potlucks in cola, the biggest ask is always a location. You could always do one outside if someone's house doesnt work
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robin (they/it) 04/23/2023 8:57 PM
cyprus had thoughts of working on a charleston one in the summer one time a while ago
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lankyy_luka(they/them) 04/23/2023 8:59 PM
My backyard is huge and I would love to do one in Charleston before it gets toooooo hot
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seb it/they 04/23/2023 8:59 PM
lol i need more emojis
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but that would be awesome, we've been trying to make more events accessible across the state instead of just centered in columbia
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lankyy_luka(they/them) 04/23/2023 9:01 PM
Slayyyyyyyyy šŸ™‚ I'm excited
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lankyy_luka(they/them)
My backyard is huge and I would love to do one in Charleston before it gets toooooo hot
Would you like to help table the June 10th 1100-1600 Jamal Sutherland Mental Health Fair for OAT in Charleston?
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Caboose
Would you like to help table the June 10th 1100-1600 Jamal Sutherland Mental Health Fair for OAT in Charleston?
lankyy_luka(they/them) 04/23/2023 9:02 PM
I don't have anything plan so I can definitely help
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lankyy_luka(they/them)
I don't have anything plan so I can definitely help
I'll make an announcement as it gets closer, but please click interested on the event ā¤ļø
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It won't actually be in Charleston looks like, I'll update it
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Wassamassaw Community Park in Summerville
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Big they/them reigns supreme šŸ™
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talk about plural
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seb it/they 04/24/2023 9:01 AM
When a gay USC professor was doxxed, USC was completely silent. Now, the USC faculty senate has paved the way for the university to take a stand while protecting stakeholders' free speech.
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BenjaminIsaac 04/24/2023 9:03 AM
sorry they signed up for a class called AIDS in English Literature and then got mad that there were gay people discussed? The 90s were something (who am I kidding someone would still do this this year)
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also that IS my idea of a good time thanks
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robin (they/it) 04/24/2023 9:07 AM
this is off topic but did the post and courier piece about laura loomer ever come out?
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nothing comes up on their site searching for loomer
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robin (they/it) 04/24/2023 9:28 AM
:(
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robin (they/it)
this is off topic but did the post and courier piece about laura loomer ever come out?
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/24/2023 9:59 AM
the reporter really doesnt seem to want to make it happen
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had to poke her like 4 times to remind her she asked for an interview
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that's strange because she reached out to me about it
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Hayden (he/they) 04/24/2023 10:06 AM
She might not be covering individual events, but putting them together into a larger story
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WhichWitch17 04/24/2023 11:03 AM
I actually had this very prof for a class this semester! He talked about that experience when anti-lgbtq discourse was talked about in class
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Very good prof i loved him.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/24/2023 11:38 AM
CW child abuse "the carolina spectator. beating the gamecock like a stepchild since 1993" conservatives really will just make the motto of their paper "beating a stepchild" and think nothing of it.
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And yet they ceased to exist almost 30 years ago
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Ah well, sucks to suck
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i'm glad the conservatives on campus don't know how to make papers anymore
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felix
i'm glad the conservatives on campus don't know how to make papers anymore
Have you read the daily gamecock recently
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okay true
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
the reporter really doesnt seem to want to make it happen
cade (he/him) 04/24/2023 12:20 PM
they could also be holding her story, i know her and she said that’s happened to another story of hers before. it was ready to be released; but they wouldn’t yet or had her keep editing
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P&C is owned by a rich conservative mega donor family
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which might effect it
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P&c has had pretty good trans coverage in the past
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Could be that they are waiting on MSA or another group to weigh in
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Or on the outcome of their petition
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robin (they/it) 04/24/2023 1:12 PM
@Hassan he/him has the university responded yet or is there anything that needs to be done on that front
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Nico (she/her) 04/24/2023 1:44 PM
Wish me luck I'm about to come out to my parents
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Nico (she/her)
Wish me luck I'm about to come out to my parents
good luck šŸ’“!
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James Harley 04/24/2023 1:45 PM
Best of luck
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darknightsoul369 04/24/2023 1:45 PM
Wishing you the best of luck !šŸ’–
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Max (they/it) 04/24/2023 1:45 PM
good luck
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Nico (she/her)
Wish me luck I'm about to come out to my parents
you've got this, good luck girl!
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Nico (she/her)
Wish me luck I'm about to come out to my parents
good luck!!
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Logan (he/him) 04/24/2023 1:50 PM
Let us know how it goes or if u need anything!!
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Carrie (she/her) 04/24/2023 2:39 PM
Good luck. Also to the organizers of OAT, I have an accessibility consulting business if you need any help with accessibility for the discord or events
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seb it/they 04/24/2023 2:40 PM
that would be really cool yeah
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i'm disabled myself and know quite a bit about accesibility just from experience, but this is not complete obviously
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Carrie (she/her) 04/24/2023 2:41 PM
Multiple brains are better than one
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seb it/they 04/24/2023 2:41 PM
yeah for sure
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Carrie (she/her) 04/24/2023 2:47 PM
I can direct message you the flyer unless there is a specific channel it needs to be included in
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seb it/they 04/24/2023 2:48 PM
Probably best to throw in #mutual-aid
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Oat doesn't have any money to pay for that service though
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We're all broke
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free-to-play anti fascism
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Carrie (she/her) 04/24/2023 2:53 PM
I'm willing to do one training for free I just started so I'm trying to build connections
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Nico (she/her)
Wish me luck I'm about to come out to my parents
Nico (she/her) 04/24/2023 3:03 PM
I think they took it about as well as they could, mom immediately tried using my name, she told me she recognized it must've been hard for me to tell them, but obviously it's a lot to process for them
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@Kiral can we spoiler the announcement image for gun ? ā¤ļø
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@Kiral can we spoiler the announcement image for gun ? ā¤ļø
Done, sorry ><
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No sorry!! Thanks ā¤ļø
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robin (they/it) 04/25/2023 11:07 AM
@pickles- they/them (mel) where do i go once i get to the statehouse ?
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robin (they/it) 04/25/2023 11:22 AM
nvm i found it
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yall cool if promote yall in a presentation about queer mental health
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/ where can i find a good png of oatbert with a qr code
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you'd have to add a qr code to them, but #agit-prop has a lot of oatberts
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perfect
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do we have a drive folder with oatberts?
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no we don't, good idea though
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might be better for less compression on images
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yes that too
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robin (they/it) 04/26/2023 4:21 PM
@felix how should we go about deleting an item from the todo list that has been completed i am very afraid of breaking something. do we delete it in the full list ?
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seb it/they 04/26/2023 4:24 PM
you shold mark it as complete
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robin (they/it) 04/26/2023 4:24 PM
i did that does it just stay forever as complete ?
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seb it/they 04/26/2023 4:25 PM
we were going to just clear it like once a month basically
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or archive them
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robin (they/it) 04/26/2023 4:26 PM
ok :)
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seb it/they
you shold mark it as complete
yeah just mark it finished
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robin (they/it)
@felix how should we go about deleting an item from the todo list that has been completed i am very afraid of breaking something. do we delete it in the full list ?
yes you only ever interact with the main todo sheet
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robin (they/it) 04/26/2023 4:44 PM
@social_media @mutual_aid i just updated the meeting events to have agendas. please add anything you would like to discuss to the meeting agendas :)
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How to deal with homophobic pamphlets in public (cw religious shame bullshit)
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robin (they/it) 04/26/2023 4:53 PM
i also updated the todo list with things from last week's meeting so check that out
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How to deal with homophobic pamphlets in public (cw religious shame bullshit)
I collect those kinds of pamphlets lol some of them are so funny
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I do appreciate the use of a paper towel to handle the biohazardous material however
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Half ply toilet paper is a biohazard in itself
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I collect those kinds of pamphlets lol some of them are so funny
You should send the among us one here
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Harmony has that one idk if I still have a pic
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Experimenting with a Leftist org logo
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Carrie (she/her) 04/26/2023 6:22 PM
I might would add a white background
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robin (they/it) 04/26/2023 6:23 PM
the hand on a bird wing confuses my brain
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Irabella (Leilah)(she/fae) 04/26/2023 8:11 PM
I appreciate how the thumb is also the bird's head
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Oh and the fingers are the birds other wing clutching the torch ooooh cool
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How to deal with homophobic pamphlets in public (cw religious shame bullshit)
George (He/They) 04/26/2023 8:36 PM
Me af when I saw those loomer posters
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Hayden (he/they) 04/27/2023 9:56 AM
New FOX News Poll shows that a huge majority of people view "families with transgender children being targets of political attacks" as a major problem. Only 15% of people say it's not a problem. And this is a FOX NEWS poll! Y'all, anti-trans politics are NOT popular.
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robin (they/it) 04/27/2023 11:08 AM
@pickles- they/them (mel) im coming
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pickles- they/them (mel) 04/27/2023 11:08 AM
Yeah robin!
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Carrie (she/her) 04/27/2023 11:10 AM
I'm just hoping the 7 stick together and don't end it
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robin (they/it) 04/27/2023 11:30 AM
@pickles- they/them (mel) im at the second floor where do i go now ?
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cw creepy abortion posters. atl: old man holding 4 scary abortion posters 1. "person hood bill yes, heart beat bill no " 2. jesus christ is lord 3. i am a person over fetus 4. abortion victim over bloody thing (edited)
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pickles- they/them (mel) 04/27/2023 11:32 AM
Pray for him
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if you tell him jesus likes abortions he starts calling over random legislators to talk about religion with you
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cw creepy abortion posters. atl: old man holding 4 scary abortion posters 1. "person hood bill yes, heart beat bill no " 2. jesus christ is lord 3. i am a person over fetus 4. abortion victim over bloody thing (edited)
pls spoiler this image
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pickles- they/them (mel) 04/27/2023 11:32 AM
This was a fun sign to block him with. ID: several bigot blockers in the statehouse lobby blocking a member of the combover coalition (Steve) with signs that say ā€œabortion is healthcareā€ and ā€œrejoice! God loves trans kids.ā€ (edited)
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robin (they/it) 04/27/2023 11:32 AM
there is
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can y'all also add alt text
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there is
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robin (they/it) 04/27/2023 11:36 AM
@pickles- they/them (mel) where are you ?? im lost !!
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pickles- they/them (mel) 04/27/2023 11:37 AM
I’m at the hospital with my mama
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Hang on I’ll send someone
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Where y’at?
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robin (they/it) 04/27/2023 11:37 AM
next to stairs to senate balcony
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wearing the clash t shirt
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next to stairs to senate balcony
pickles- they/them (mel) 04/27/2023 11:38 AM
You’re in the right place
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Hang in I’ll send Allison
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Go up the stairs to the senate gallery. That’s where our people are
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Hey other autistic folks does anyone else stim really hard when they’re on the phone?
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George (He/They) 04/27/2023 3:26 PM
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Hey other autistic folks does anyone else stim really hard when they’re on the phone?
robin (they/it) 04/27/2023 3:27 PM
i mask really hard when im on the phone
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I mask my voice but I’m putting all my masking points into voice and so my body goes wild
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George (He/They) 04/27/2023 3:27 PM
I have to pace around the room when I’m on the phone
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lumenbos (they/he) 04/27/2023 3:27 PM
leg bouncing like crazy on that phone.
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sage 🌿 04/27/2023 3:27 PM
I pace around the room too
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I walk laps
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seb it/they 04/27/2023 3:28 PM
I have put stuff in my fridge, stim-pacing on the phone with insurance
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lumenbos (they/he) 04/27/2023 3:28 PM
I have found that being able to talk on speaker with my phone on a table helps if I'm not pacing. idk makes me feel less restrained?
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seb it/they 04/27/2023 3:28 PM
Just completely nonsensical locations of random objects i grab and redistribute
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Hey other autistic folks does anyone else stim really hard when they’re on the phone?
I used to but i kind of like got used to calling cause I vc with friends really frequently, but I have to pace/have a fidget toy when making medical appointments
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since I stim a lot more from anxiety, with there being like a stim baseline where I'm just constantly bouncing my leg
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robin (they/it) 04/27/2023 3:52 PM
my parents get mad at me for leg bouncing but like i cant stop
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my parents get mad at me for leg bouncing but like i cant stop
A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/27/2023 3:56 PM
I'll scare myself from time to time bc I'll look around and see cabinets or windows shaking and be like "holy hell is this an earthquake" before realizing I'm shaking the room
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I'll scare myself from time to time bc I'll look around and see cabinets or windows shaking and be like "holy hell is this an earthquake" before realizing I'm shaking the room
lumenbos (they/he) 04/27/2023 3:57 PM
my parents thinking the car was breaking down when it was just me and my leg
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ive been yelled at for rocking in my seat in the car (edited)
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Just completely nonsensical locations of random objects i grab and redistribute
Irabella (Leilah)(she/fae) 04/27/2023 5:28 PM
I feel seen
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ive been yelled at for rocking in my seat in the car (edited)
same. all the time when i was younger. or making noise, yelled at for "scaring" my mom tht her car was messed up
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/27/2023 7:06 PM
oh yeah
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the universal neurodivergent kid experience
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my parents get mad at me for leg bouncing but like i cant stop
oh, absolutely. I used to (and still do, on occasion) have the bounciest legs (a frequent point of contention with my mother), and pull at my shirts just below the throat (to the degree that eventually my mother would threaten to force me to take off my shirt in public if I wouldn't stop pulling at it, which to be fair only ever happened in private and she generally reversed course when I would start crying) and make shrieks and clicks and whistles when I felt strong emotions
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My nervous behaviours have shifted over time as I've put thought into stopping more disruptive things like the shrieks. I'll clack my acrylics nails together or trill my tongue much quieter and have taken to tapping on the ipad I constantly carry on me, not with any particular purpose, just to click clack moo
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seb it/they 04/27/2023 7:30 PM
Masking ✨
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I am the resident expert on masking at USC, it's true
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virtually no one has seen my face since 2020 and that's the way (aha, aha) I like it
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seb it/they 04/27/2023 7:32 PM
So true
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Have you tried n95s?
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I noticed you mostly do surgical but my brain is very squishy rn and that may be incorrect
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I usually do cotton face masks, and I'll slip a surgical mask underneath if there's a large gathering indoors or something of the sort
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Have you tried n95s?
Never, they don't give enough of the facial coverage I desire. My face tends towards the more delicate/androgynous look but it's still quite a whammy on the dysphoria, so I mostly mask for that
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seb it/they 04/27/2023 7:38 PM
Ah I see, I've just found the feel a lot less claustrophobic for me
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And are a better sensory experience
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I have sensory issues with most masks
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ooh, see, I like the enclosed feeling. the only problem is in summer or when it's very humid (often synonymous), but I'll slip a napkin or paper towel in between my mouth and the mask and then it's fine
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It may also be that I have worn masks every single day for over three years now and they've become the norm
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seb it/they 04/27/2023 7:46 PM
yeah i've also worn them continously lol my sensory issues are just very powerful
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the worst was during my shifts as a cashier at the grocery store i worked in
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i was allergic to something in the grocery store i worked in and when i kept trying to itch my face customers gave me a weird look like im a robot existing to serve them (edited)
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seb it/they 04/27/2023 7:49 PM
that happened to me too!
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i'm allergic to a lot of veggies and my hands would break out
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literally i used gloves because of it but sometimes i got an itchy face from just being around it (whatever it was) it was so irritating
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i hate capitalism
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same
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Hailey (she/they) 04/27/2023 11:09 PM
Did anyone else see the video of Steven crowder like abusing his wife verbally?? Because I did and I’m baffled. (edited)
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Please spoiler this
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I would maybe tw that
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Yeah its genuinely hard to watch
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Hailey (she/they) 04/27/2023 11:10 PM
How do I spoiler?
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How do I spoiler?
Add || on either side
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Two lines || on either side of a message
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BenjaminIsaac 04/27/2023 11:10 PM
I did not but I saw the little joel video about his divorce where he was essentially like ā€œI would own my wife if it was legally allowed in the state of texasā€
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Hailey (she/they) 04/27/2023 11:10 PM
Thank you guys!
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But it is insane
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right wing creep turns out to be shitty person (im shocked /s)
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I watched part of the video
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It’s honestly not surprising, this is what he believes ideologically
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Hailey (she/they) 04/27/2023 11:11 PM
I couldn’t watch it all the way through it was triggering. And yeah I’m not surprised in the slightest
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especially since she was pregnant
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I'm seeing lots of rwers defending him
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I'm seeing lots of rwers defending him
Hailey (she/they) 04/27/2023 11:13 PM
People are sick :(
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I'm seeing lots of rwers defending him
Logan (he/him) 04/28/2023 12:10 AM
rwers dont be shitty human beings challenge (impossible)
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Irabella (Leilah)(she/fae) 04/28/2023 12:23 PM
Yeah his entire shtick was being cartoonishly misogynistic, racist, etc. Also, to me personally he's clearly masking deep insecurity about his masculinity so demanding his 8 months pregnant wife serve him obediently in her "wifely duties" (walking the dog, apparently) as a clear act of displaying patriarchal power over her and nothing else fits into that quite nicely.
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wasnt that clip from 2 years ago?
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2021?
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i cant imagine how long shes had to deal with that omg.
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Enough about wifely duties lets talk about boywifely duties
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Is it legal for a job to fucking charge me for a drug test that they are requiring?? Im filling out onboarding documents for a job Im starting soon, and on the form about a required drug screening it says they are going to deduct the cost of the test from my first paycheck.
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Unfortunately as far as i know it is legal
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I thought the companies always pay for their screening processes they require. That sucks, I'm so sorry (edited)
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I thought the companies always pay for their screening processes they require. That sucks, I'm so sorry (edited)
Nah, it's common practice unfortunately for companies to make you pay or go get your own drug test, physicals, background checks, etc. Larger companies will usually pay it, but it depends
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Gross, that sucks so bad. we love financial barriers to entry
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Is it legal for a job to fucking charge me for a drug test that they are requiring?? Im filling out onboarding documents for a job Im starting soon, and on the form about a required drug screening it says they are going to deduct the cost of the test from my first paycheck.
It's usually 25-50$. The fact that a company makes you pay tells you something about them, but gotta eat in this hellscape
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hate that it's allowed. i hate it here.
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Is it legal for a job to fucking charge me for a drug test that they are requiring?? Im filling out onboarding documents for a job Im starting soon, and on the form about a required drug screening it says they are going to deduct the cost of the test from my first paycheck.
If you need any assistance, don't be afraid to reach out, we got ppl who can crowdfund in here
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you gotta be able to afford not only taking off work to go, but also scheduling, and going to get tested instead of working or resting and also pay for it yourself.
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Nerak1 Dave 04/28/2023 3:06 PM
If your employer requires it, getting it done should be considered work hours. If you haven't been hired yet for a new job that is requiring it, it would be time off from your current job.
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Carrie (she/her) 04/28/2023 4:19 PM
Could we maybe make channels for each region so that way we can get to know the organizers in our region too? Just a suggestion.
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seb it/they 04/28/2023 4:27 PM
We've considered this, but wanted to avoid making more channels/clutter
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I think it’s a good idea
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Can’t you make it to where only certain channels show if you choose roles for them?
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Can’t you make it to where only certain channels show if you choose roles for them?
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/28/2023 5:38 PM
we do have the capability to do that
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however, i dont really want to make little isolated OAT cells that dont talk (edited)
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I thought I saw someone with an anarchist necklace, then it was an M, and I was like ok, mutualist? It was a Metallica necklace 🤣🤣🤣 I still gave em some stickers and told em to join
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I was at a gas station
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James Harley 04/28/2023 7:00 PM
80s or 90s Metallica?
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I do not know, it was a necklace with an M, I think 2000s Metallica is good, it's when they finally started releasing good songs
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Enough time to practice i suppose
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(Joking btw)
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i prefer slayer
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i prefer slayer
James Harley 04/28/2023 7:03 PM
Yesssss!!! Yes, fucking Slayer is metal as fuck!!! South of Heaven or Hell Awaits?
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i prefer slayer
i prefer 100 gecs
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Yesssss!!! Yes, fucking Slayer is metal as fuck!!! South of Heaven or Hell Awaits?
hell awaits
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James Harley 04/28/2023 7:05 PM
OMG Hellyeah!!!!!
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but my favorite album is probably raining blood with show no mercy behind it
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i got a whole slayer backpatch on my vest
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James Harley 04/28/2023 7:08 PM
Hellyeah!!! Reign in Blood was the first Slayer album I ever fell in love with! As soon as I heard Tom Araya’s ā€œAaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhā€ I knew this was a new level of Thrash!!!
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show no mercy is so good too, not its as refined as reign in blood cause its older, ugh so good
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diy feel
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Hayden (he/they) 04/28/2023 7:10 PM
Live from the fish fry
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show no mercy is so good too, not its as refined as reign in blood cause its older, ugh so good
James Harley 04/28/2023 7:11 PM
Literally, I wish I could have seen Slayer live, I’ve only heard stories of slayer concerts and the fans and I think ā€œI have to see Slayerā€ but then remember they retired. Rip Slayer!
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trueee, tbh ur more likely to see og punk bands nowadays than either of the big 4 unless you wanna cough up 200+ bucks
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James Harley 04/28/2023 7:13 PM
True, the big 4 bands don’t come cheap, that’s high quality class Thrash!
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Live from the fish fry
🫔 good luck
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True, the big 4 bands don’t come cheap, that’s high quality class Thrash!
true hahahahaha
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underground grindcore shows are pretty cheap and nice to go to
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James Harley 04/28/2023 7:16 PM
At this point I just want to underground metal concert, I wanna go home back amongst my metal family!
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understandableee
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Hayden (he/they) 04/28/2023 7:41 PM
Yeah I feel like shit lol
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Free alcohol though
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80s or 90s Metallica?
puppygirl blair 04/28/2023 9:02 PM
I have a original 1984 copy of ride the lightning
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James Harley 04/28/2023 9:28 PM
Hellyeah!!! What’s your favorite song from the album?
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puppygirl blair 04/28/2023 9:35 PM
To be honest I don't have a favorite
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I like them all
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James Harley 04/28/2023 9:41 PM
That’s how I feel about Kill ā€˜em All through And Justice for All!!!
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puppygirl blair 04/28/2023 10:16 PM
Same tbh
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Live from the fish fry
George (He/They) 04/28/2023 10:30 PM
Who was doing the fish fry?
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Camryn Aisling 04/28/2023 10:36 PM
I'm more of a judas priest enjoyer
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painkiller enjoyers be like
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James Harley 04/28/2023 10:42 PM
OMG!!! Is it my metal awakening day? Judas Priest is one of my top 3 favorite bands, and Painkiller is one of if not my favorite metal song!!!
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Why didn’t you all tell me you were metalheads!!!
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We could go to concerts together and mosh!
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ive just been busy
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im gonna try to go to a punk show this summer thats showing Subhumanz
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but tbh theres not many metal shows around
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James Harley 04/28/2023 10:46 PM
True, the metal scene in South Carolina is so dead I’m pretty sure it wasn’t even born
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I do plan to see Pantera in November though
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OOOOOO niceeeeee
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100 gecs is as metal as it gets
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puppygirl blair 04/29/2023 12:53 AM
I love 100 gecs too
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Tbh I like all music
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either0rgans 04/29/2023 1:06 AM
I had to stop myself from listening to the Travis Miller The complaint register album so now on something called anima and sister mary
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I also like pretty much all music
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Next week I’m seeing 100 gecs live for the third time (this time with Machine Girl)
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Last time I went Laura Les chucked a half full white claw into the pit and it splashed on me. Essentially a baptism of sorts
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I have the most awesome music taste ever
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If Laura Les threw a drink at me I would never wash that outfit again ever
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If Laura Les threw a drink at me I would never wash that outfit again ever
I was in the splash zone when she came to Charlotte and checked a open water bottle into the pit lmao
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puppygirl blair 04/29/2023 2:29 AM
One band I love is alice in chains
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I got a major crush on two of the members. Unfortunately one is no longer with us.
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either0rgans 04/29/2023 2:41 AM
Opsec is so great here
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I got a major crush on two of the members. Unfortunately one is no longer with us.
either0rgans 04/29/2023 2:41 AM
What's the band name?
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What's the band name?
puppygirl blair 04/29/2023 2:43 AM
Alice in chains
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jim clyburn
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Is Jim clyburn fish fry a band?
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Is Jim clyburn fish fry a band?
puppygirl blair 04/29/2023 2:44 AM
No they were talking about something completely different
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Alice in chains
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Rip Laine
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Mike too damn
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Rip Laine
puppygirl blair 04/29/2023 2:45 AM
Yup him and Jerry are the ones I have a crush on
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One band I love is alice in chains
Logan (he/him) 04/29/2023 2:45 AM
Based
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Based
puppygirl blair 04/29/2023 2:45 AM
I'm really into the grunge scene
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Logan (he/him) 04/29/2023 2:45 AM
I saw the name of a grunge band and was attracted like a moth to a light
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puppygirl blair 04/29/2023 2:46 AM
Lol
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either0rgans 04/29/2023 2:46 AM
Cobain was one of my first interest
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puppygirl blair 04/29/2023 2:46 AM
I saw them last November
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Logan (he/him) 04/29/2023 2:46 AM
LUCKY
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Cobain was one of my first interest
Logan (he/him) 04/29/2023 2:47 AM
No but same Kurt is one of my heroes
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puppygirl blair 04/29/2023 2:48 AM
Whenever I listen to nutshell I start crying uncontrollably
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Yup him and Jerry are the ones I have a crush on
either0rgans 04/29/2023 2:51 AM
I don't think Jerry gets enough credit he penned their most famous song and it's about trauma from masculinity and trauma from having to perform masculinity in an imperial state
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And all the stuff that goes with that
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Actually never heard nutshell but will check out
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puppygirl blair 04/29/2023 3:37 AM
I just realized that there aren't any anarchist organizations up here
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I think I should start one
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puppygirl blair 04/29/2023 4:00 AM
Woof woof :3
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So true
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puppygirl blair 04/29/2023 8:43 AM
I've been in pure puppygirl mode today
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I just started barking and don't really want to speak
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I think it's a way of coping
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I feel so comfortable when I go into puppymode
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I want a owner sooo bad
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miss altava 04/29/2023 9:51 AM
Idk if anyone here uses Lex, but would it be a good idea if I posted there to see if anyone there wants to join? It's an app that's like a queer message board. I see a lot of trans ppl post on there looking for community and support in SC so I figured that maybe it'd could be a place to find ppl who could use this group (edited)
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I figured I would posy something like "dm me for a link" instead of just posting a link so I can screen ppl based on location, since the app has your location on your profile
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robin (they/it) 04/29/2023 9:57 AM
i mean maybe if you make it clear that this group is centralized in sc in you post this would solve that problem ? im not sure its your call but it seems like it would be a good idea
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miss altava 04/29/2023 9:59 AM
Yeah I figured I'd state that it's a leftist organization based in SC to advocate for trans rights and against transphobia
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robin (they/it) 04/29/2023 10:03 AM
if people are specifically asking for mutual aid, it might be good to mention we do our best to aid mutually
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Lex is a strange app
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Yeah it is lol
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miss altava
Yeah I figured I'd state that it's a leftist organization based in SC to advocate for trans rights and against transphobia
Just wanna point out it's a coalition, not only a space for leftists
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miss altava
I figured I would posy something like "dm me for a link" instead of just posting a link so I can screen ppl based on location, since the app has your location on your profile
robin (they/it) 04/29/2023 11:05 AM
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this might be helpful
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robin (they/it) 04/29/2023 2:52 PM
im sure im greatly over thinking this but if im wanting to make things for the art swap/fundraiser should i make more than one of each thing i make ? or does it matter ? i made this one bag for a friend and apparently she gets tons of people asking her where they can get one, and if there is similar interest at this i dont want people to be zad if they wanted it . (i was planning on remaking the bag for this)
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seb it/they 04/29/2023 8:23 PM
I was planning on making multiple unique things
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robin (they/it)
im sure im greatly over thinking this but if im wanting to make things for the art swap/fundraiser should i make more than one of each thing i make ? or does it matter ? i made this one bag for a friend and apparently she gets tons of people asking her where they can get one, and if there is similar interest at this i dont want people to be zad if they wanted it . (i was planning on remaking the bag for this)
up to you tbh
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sage 🌿 04/29/2023 11:07 PM
Oh hey new server icon! It looks better imo
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/29/2023 11:08 PM
the new social media team is on fire
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We are doing our best
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I think @lissie ! (pls ping) they/she designed this logo (thank you lissie it looks very cool)
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I think @lissie ! (pls ping) they/she designed this logo (thank you lissie it looks very cool)
lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 04/29/2023 11:28 PM
Heck yeah I did!! I’m glad y’all like it
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Morning yall
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seb it/they 04/30/2023 9:57 AM
how's it going :3
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/30/2023 10:31 AM
pretty good all things considered
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Got a new laptop
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/30/2023 10:32 AM
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gimme the specs priest
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It's nothing special, ASUS gaming laptop I got to replace my old dell that's literally falling apart
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Y’all I love the new icon šŸ˜
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I like it too, i think i just have to get used to it not filling out a circle like the majority of my other servers do lol
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the only other one that does I notice, is still a roundish design
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I met with an immigration lawyer from Canada as well as 4 parents of trans children and adults today on a Zoom call. It has useful information about immigrating to Canada, what Canada is like for trans people, how they protect trans people, access to gender affirming care in Canada, and more. If you would like the recording, please DM me.
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happy may day
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//violence against police My favorite holiday < 3 https://vxtwitter.com/illwilleditions/status/1653040787209478144?s=46 (edited)
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Can we add an emote of a police car burning to the server
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if you get me the png with a clear background
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//violence against police My favorite holiday < 3 https://vxtwitter.com/illwilleditions/status/1653040787209478144?s=46 (edited)
i love the dumpster, really adds to the experience
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They use them as shields
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beautiful
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If you roll a dumpster in front of you cops can’t hit you with riot munitions
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i'm just impressed with how rolly they are
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if you get me the png with a clear background
alt: police car emoji on fire (edited)
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i couldnt find the better quality one 😢
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I appreciate the minimalism
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i think this one might show up better on discord
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i deleted the other one bc i agree
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it can be really hard to design emotes for discord because of wanting to make it simplistic enough but recognizable enough in such a small space
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yeagg
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(not that i had to design this, i just put two pngs on top of each other)
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ANYWAY HAPPY MAY DAY <3 (edited)
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oh also i'm done with exams
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sooo.... i have free time to work on oat stuff finally
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We denounce the fascist silencing & expulsion of Rep. Zooey Zephyr. We also believe that electoral politics is a dead end street. It will not stop fascism, and is a threat to derail much needed community-based organizing and solutions. 🧵
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(Opinion piece I agree with, not OAT’s opinion)
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we actually reached out to them/filled the form to be part of the network
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might be worth dming them on twitter
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^^i agree, good thread
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antifa anti hipster brewery caucus
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May Day in Paris seems to be going harder than it usually does
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iirc there were ongoing riots because of the pension bullshit
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robin (they/it) 05/01/2023 1:43 PM
L cops
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iirc there were ongoing riots because of the pension bullshit
retirement reform is the headline topic, but people generally dislike the current government, so it's a mix of things
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not to mention the méga-bassine sabotage in sainte-soline recently among other eco defense actions
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Won't be able to make the potluck, only day I can get a haircut
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lankyy_luka(they/them) 05/01/2023 9:32 PM
hey folks can someone pin the todo list? I haven't been in a while and I finally have free time to organize šŸ™‚
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robin (they/it) 05/01/2023 9:33 PM
todo info,dates,people,links category,urgency,status,summary,start,goal,ended,contact,others,document,other mutual aid,critical,working,mother's day celebration,Apr 19, 23,May 13, 23,bernie,robin,canva
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the easiest way to access it for me is through the drive
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also only edit the first page dont edit any of the others
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lankyy_luka(they/them) 05/01/2023 9:34 PM
Thank you!
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robin (they/it) 05/01/2023 9:35 PM
np
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robin (they/it) 05/02/2023 8:58 AM
now that it is a new month can we get rid if the finished projects on the todo list ?
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i can probably automate that, but yeah sure, every month is good
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My semi dyslexic ass keeps thinking this says OAT Alt id: red book with the word TAO written on it
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My semi dyslexic ass keeps thinking this says OAT Alt id: red book with the word TAO written on it
Look at it in a mirror šŸ‘€
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Matt Cox he/him 05/03/2023 12:24 PM
The Tao in an Oat
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The oatbert that can be known is not the true oatbert tao
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Tw discussion of police brutality Don’t film, Act: A call for confrontation https://ia903104.us.archive.org/24/items/ZineArchive/Act.pdf (edited)
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This piece is in the specific context of police brutality but can also be applied to the wave of vigilante violence that’s happening now.
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that might take the cake for the most radical thing i've ever read i especially like it in regards to vigilante violence because it sounds more attainable and safer/doable at this moment in time (edited)
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robin (they/it) 05/03/2023 8:03 PM
heyyo @everyone oat is planning an art swap/fundraiser we dont have a lot of the details ironed out yet except that it will be probably some time in the summer and it will be at a park in columbia . im telling yall this incase you want to make art for the fundraiser and needed some time to get it ready . remember to be creative . i might be forging some stuff for the fundraiser . im excited to see what everyone makes !
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robin (they/it) 05/03/2023 8:31 PM
also i just updated the todo list with a whole bunch of new things to do so check that out and write your name in the contact box for a task if you want to complete a task :) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1g6qnNNGIvnSntU4l_Tt1OhU_eVxnS_4HJSw1UO4Cm9g/edit?usp=sharing
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robin (they/it)
now that it is a new month can we get rid if the finished projects on the todo list ?
i have now automated this as soon as you mark something as finished, it will be moved automatically to the archive sheet
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robin (they/it) 05/04/2023 10:21 AM
thanks
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(Opinion piece I agree with, not OAT’s opinion)
I hope you will take a look at the SC Workers Party and consider our from the ground up strategy. The Xian right started at the local level and patiently built their base until they could take over Congress & SCOTUS along with many state governments. A unified left can do the same, if we realize the Democratic Party is a lost cause.
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The supreme court and congress will always innately be a flawed, worthless institution, and "taking it over" means nothing, it just puts a rainbow coat of paint over a genocidal institution
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Electoralism can directly improve the material conditions of the oppressed and I don't denounce those that work with that, but the limitations need to be acknowledged, and calling for a unified left position on joining a party is ridiculous when the very basis of that party is something so irrational and against my values
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also the christian right was not a grassroots movement lol
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i dont see how its ridiculous when it can have the ability to improve material conditions
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i also don't know what it means to say that the supreme court and congress are "worthless", unless you only mean it as a value judgement. those institutions literally determine the rights we have, and the amount of money spent on influencing them is mind-numbing. that makes them quite important and worthwhile to consider imo
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i dont see how its ridiculous when it can have the ability to improve material conditions
socialist entryism is often an energy sap that takes effort away from other direct action that's the root criticism as i see it
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what the hell is entryism, sorry i actually dont know what that is
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it's when you try and join another larger group to try and influence its direction
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are you talking about like joining the dems?
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that larger group here is the broader electoral machine of the united states
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that's one group you could try and "enter", sure
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this is something maybe you could characterize AOC or Sanders as doing, or at least their reason for running initially
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thats actually a hot topic for DSA but yeah No yeah i get that. i find it better to focus on local and state level electoralism
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less radical than some other historical advocates of the tactic, but sure
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thats why im in the sc workers party
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i also don't know what it means to say that the supreme court and congress are "worthless", unless you only mean it as a value judgement. those institutions literally determine the rights we have, and the amount of money spent on influencing them is mind-numbing. that makes them quite important and worthwhile to consider imo
critics of the supreme court out of hand are also going to contest notions of "rights" as they're handed down by the authority of the state, so this is talking past that criticism
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at the same time, if there's absurd amounts of money spent on those court decisions, how are we meant to contest it? with our own wallets? this is also a reason to not spend energy spinning the gears of a broken machine
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thats a fair reason not to spend time in it, im not gonna try to change the dems
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just do grassroots stuff in the state
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even if it means getting county level seats
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critics of the supreme court out of hand are also going to contest notions of "rights" as they're handed down by the authority of the state, so this is talking past that criticism
to make it clear my position is the supreme court should be abolished. ellie is saying what i want to say but more succinctly
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i dont think the supreme court should be abolished, to be clear ahahah
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i dont think the supreme court should be abolished, to be clear ahahah
ikik thats me lol
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what does the locality of the state apparatus change about your opposition to it?
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why is participation in south carolina government any different than participation in the federal hoopla
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i mean, its just easier to organize on a state level
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why organize into the government though?
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because its the system we have now lol idk
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if you're an advocate for the upheaval and change of what currently exists, why join and bolster its continuation?
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this is moreso with regard to specifically state government
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much easier said than done when it comes to say buying food lol
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because i believe in a state, to be clear. change and upheaval to a new state for the benefit of everyone and etcf
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ah unfortunate
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yeah ahhahah
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sorry m8
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bc it exists and has the power to effect my life rn (sadly)
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but yeah know, direct action and mutual aid are vaild, i think a party can absolutely help with it
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maybe it wont in the future šŸ¤ž
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if you're an advocate for the upheaval and change of what currently exists, why join and bolster its continuation?
Hayden (he/they) 05/04/2023 12:48 PM
The existing machine holds the keys to the kingdom as it were. I'm not really sure what any of us in our individual capacity could do to undo the machine. Seems foolish to just see elected officials as a vote in a chair, they can also advocate a particular point of view with a platform
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These systems, whether or not they should exist, do have power now I don’t think it’s ridiculous to pursue a path where you try and make things better for now through interacting with our government, even if the end goal is its end
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should we move to slow general? or is this okay (edited)
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 05/04/2023 12:49 PM
I'm gonna run for sheriff on an abolitionist platform šŸ˜Ž
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Hayden (he/they) 05/04/2023 12:49 PM
Bringing it back to the start of the convo I think if zooey zephyr didn't exist fewer people would know about the goings on of the Montana state legislature
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should we move to slow general? or is this okay (edited)
If you have a point you want to make that you want people to take more time to reflect on or if it starts veering into a too-heated conversation, I think it’s fine now? No one is wrong here, there are just people with different ideas (at least here, there are also ideas out there that deserve no respect)
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should we move to slow general? or is this okay (edited)
maybe if you don't want the longer messages or important points you don't want lost in the chat yeah ^
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The existing machine holds the keys to the kingdom as it were. I'm not really sure what any of us in our individual capacity could do to undo the machine. Seems foolish to just see elected officials as a vote in a chair, they can also advocate a particular point of view with a platform
no it's not so much that they're merely a vote in a chair, i'm moreso concerned with the energy and resources used to place someone in a chair the way i see it, those same energies can be better spent elsewhere
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no it's not so much that they're merely a vote in a chair, i'm moreso concerned with the energy and resources used to place someone in a chair the way i see it, those same energies can be better spent elsewhere
Hayden (he/they) 05/04/2023 12:52 PM
I agree with this point of view, I think there's a difference between putting all our chips in electoralism and abandoning it entirely
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If you have a point you want to make that you want people to take more time to reflect on or if it starts veering into a too-heated conversation, I think it’s fine now? No one is wrong here, there are just people with different ideas (at least here, there are also ideas out there that deserve no respect)
oh yeah i know, it just seems it might be becoming a pretty long convo on elections and crap (edited)
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no it's not so much that they're merely a vote in a chair, i'm moreso concerned with the energy and resources used to place someone in a chair the way i see it, those same energies can be better spent elsewhere
You think that, but others don’t and won’t put their energy into the same things you value. I don’t think putting everything in one basket is anyone’s goal, or shouldn’t be, but many methods with people contributing how they are able, to me, isn’t necessarily a bad thing
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if you're an advocate for the upheaval and change of what currently exists, why join and bolster its continuation?
A-A-Ron (they/them) 05/04/2023 12:54 PM
There's some debate rn about how/if the State is actually bolstered by different interactions ppl have with it. I might be misguided, but I do think it's worth looking at how things like electoralism can help dismantle certain parts of the state (for instance, non-reformist reforms advocated by abolitionists).
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oh yeah i know, it just seems it might be becoming a pretty long convo on elections and crap (edited)
Long conversations can be good! If this was a working channel it would be better to move it, but I think conversation is what this channel is for
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Hayden (he/they) 05/04/2023 12:56 PM
I find sometimes in leftist spaces that there is an urge to discover some non-falsifiable perfectionist tactic or strategy to solve these collective problems. I think a better plan is to accept multiple tactics while understanding their downsides and embracing their upsides
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I’d also point out that without threats from the further left when it comes to people running, Democrats will keep drifting further right to compete with Republicans for the middle. It doesn’t always work and it can be frustrating to fail or not succeed as much as we hope, but threatening their power and making our voices heard in government can help us prevent the worst of things to pass or at least give us a chance to put up a fight on another front
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multiple tactics, supporting each other
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I'm gonna run for sheriff on an abolitionist platform šŸ˜Ž
Larry Krasner and other so-called progressive prosecutors (an oxymoron imo) did something akin to this, and it's been a mixed bag
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 05/04/2023 12:58 PM
I'm not actually running for office, if I ever say I will someone come check on me and make sure I'm okay. But yeah, definitely not a solution.
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i know a unified left can be annoying, or cringe or whatever but it is important and knowing that we all have a niches with different tactics is good
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it doesnt have to be behind a party
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but in a community
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(i prefer in a party but thats me :) )
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I'm not actually running for office, if I ever say I will someone come check on me and make sure I'm okay. But yeah, definitely not a solution.
sorry yea i didnt think u were but just saying it has some semi-related precedent
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Hayden (he/they) 05/04/2023 1:00 PM
Alternatively that party can be the basis for a community and a platform for social outreach
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this is true
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IMO a party is just another tool/term for organising people, more neutral, the ones we have now in power just suck
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 05/04/2023 1:12 PM
My general opinion is that we're in the experimental era, re-building a left so that the ppl who come after us don't have to start from as much scratch as we have had to (parts of the left never died, tbc, but obviously we're much smaller than different points of our history). Start local and build networks outward. Take history and critiques of different things and apply and test them within the more modern conditions and see what you come up with. Idk, some ppl would also see that as a cop-out and I'm cool with that criticism as well. I just don't think me sitting around reading books by myself is gonna give me any answers (theory is important though, tbc). (edited)
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ColorfulKnoll 05/04/2023 6:55 PM
Would it be a good idea to have a channel separate from vent where advice is asked for so we can have a place to ask questions for indivual matters?
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seb it/they 05/04/2023 6:55 PM
i think you can ask for advice in vent no advice
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you just need to say so specifically, it's just an indication that the default is not giving advice, but supporting in other ways
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ColorfulKnoll 05/04/2023 6:56 PM
Oh I see, thank you for clarification
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seb it/they 05/04/2023 6:58 PM
yeah if you wanted advice you could say "advice welcome" or "please give me advice" or something like that
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and if i was unsure if you wanted advice i would simply ask "hey is it okay if i give advice on this??"
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ColorfulKnoll 05/04/2023 7:02 PM
I just got confused about the process, thank you. I just know in certain situations advice can be helpful
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seb it/they 05/04/2023 7:04 PM
mhm
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Tw discussion of police brutality Don’t film, Act: A call for confrontation https://ia903104.us.archive.org/24/items/ZineArchive/Act.pdf (edited)
OK I've been trying to print this and I have no clue the settings to get it right šŸ™ƒ
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you need to impose it and then change the duplex binding
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or if you flip the odd pages during imposition, you don't need to do that
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^^ double sided of course
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seb it/they 05/05/2023 9:12 PM
does anyone have any zines/articles on security culture, doxing prevention, or operational security that they would like to share?
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A step-by-step guide explaining how to protect yourself from online stalkers, why it's important, and what to do if you are targeted for doxxing.
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Anonymous Confidence. Courage. Connection. Trust A proposal for security culture 2019, November
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seb it/they 05/05/2023 9:41 PM
(for context this is for a future update to the oat faq)
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George (He/They) 05/06/2023 10:38 AM
Anti Choice USC Group Students for Life reposted details for an Anti-Abortion rally taking place Saturday, June 24th, one year after Rowe v Wade was overturned. Alt: Instagram story of USC Studente for Life Repost of IG user prolifegvl (Pro Life Greenville) "Save the Date. South Carolina Rally For Life! Saturday, June 24th Columbia, South Carolina. RSVP @ bit.ly/scliferally South Carolina rally for life on the first anniversary of the Dobbs v. Jackson Decision (edited)
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can you add alt text to this please :)
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George (He/They) 05/06/2023 10:43 AM
Gotcha. I put it in a spoiler tag just to avoid clutter
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alt text isn't clutter, don't spoiler it that just makes it harder for screen reader usage
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comrade kalia (she/her) 05/06/2023 10:54 AM
you can also add it to the image itself before posting it
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can you??
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how??
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nvm i can't read
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it'd be cool if it wouldn't let you send any image without alt text attached
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it would also be cool if image formats supported an embedded description so that way images could get a good description from someone once, and then everyone else could benefit from that effort
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comrade kalia (she/her) 05/06/2023 10:57 AM
image is the most recent one i saved, added for demonstration purposes only unrelated but there’s a mobile crisis pregnancy center and a fuck ton of wackjobs set up at the local planned parenthood; you think they’ll give me a free pregnancy test if i asked
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it would also be cool if image formats supported an embedded description so that way images could get a good description from someone once, and then everyone else could benefit from that effort
Camryn Aisling 05/06/2023 11:41 AM
Isn't that already a field in the metadata of most image file formats?
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I thought the big issue was that most file hosts stripped all metadata automatically
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IPTC is the global standards body of the news media. We provide the technical foundation for the news ecosystem.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/06/2023 6:24 PM
lifted pickup with trump punisher skull spotted šŸ’€
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really shitty lifted pickup too
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i can literally see miscelaneous fluids leaking from the bottom
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Hayden (he/they) 05/06/2023 6:33 PM
I'm ready for McMaster to ban the squat
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/06/2023 6:35 PM
addendum to the squat ban, you have to pay with it using your own money
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all the dad's money white boys when they have to pay 10,000 to unsquat their trucks
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I appreciate this link having been the victim of a recent doxxing/harassment campaign from my ex
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a lot of the stuff in the article resonated w my experience
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robin (they/it) 05/06/2023 7:49 PM
@pickles- they/them (mel) do you have a signal? if yes can you dm me your signal number ?
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ColorfulKnoll 05/08/2023 9:03 AM
Since I'm now single, I'm going to have alot more free time. I checked out the to-do list not entirely sure what needs hands on deck, but if there's anything I can do I'd be more than glad to help
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robin (they/it) 05/08/2023 9:07 AM
some things that need help right now are finding artists for me to teach out to for the art fundraiser and writing emails to orgs on this list
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Organizations Contacted?,Contact Person,Status,Email,Phone,Website,Social Media 864 Pride,Spencer@864pride.org,864-518-4740,https://864pride.org/ ACLU,athena,working against bill with SC United for Justice and Equality AIGA SC,
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Sheet1 artist name,way to contact them angela bond,instagram macrayay,instagram anncohen,instagram keith two,instagram sam collins,instagam all the bloom,instagram jenny turner,instagram contrived curiosities,instagram robert walker,instagram sergey cherep,text: 4047726071 havana moon music,inst...
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ColorfulKnoll 05/08/2023 9:08 AM
Oh I could potentially help with the art thing I'm not professional but I dabble (edited)
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robin (they/it) 05/08/2023 9:09 AM
we are getting both community art like im making stuff for the fundraiser and we are trying to get other local non oat artits to come too
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omg if you are willing to donate prints and/or come to the event that would be awesome
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ColorfulKnoll 05/08/2023 9:10 AM
Yeah, totes. The event id have to check on but donating prints should be easy enough
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robin (they/it) 05/08/2023 9:11 AM
we are doing an online stitch and bitch if you want to come and work on art there too
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its on wednesday
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ColorfulKnoll 05/08/2023 9:11 AM
Haha, what's exactly does that ential? Also, one of these weekends I can try to go the flea market here in Lexington and see if any artist there would be willing to work with oat
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robin (they/it) 05/08/2023 9:13 AM
we just craft and talk to each other it is more of a community building event than anything else and also i lied its on tuesday
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the name comes from knitting circle where people knit and gossip
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ColorfulKnoll 05/08/2023 9:13 AM
Oh okay, I sadly have my first therapy appointment on Tuesday so we'll have to see if times clash
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Oh cute
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robin (they/it) 05/08/2023 9:13 AM
its at 8pm
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ColorfulKnoll 05/08/2023 9:14 AM
Not an issue then, or shouldn't be at least unless something pops up
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Thank you for letting me know
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And I'll get back to you on the artist thing, gotta get their contact info but there's some decent local artist there
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robin (they/it) 05/08/2023 9:16 AM
the ones that are on there i went to an art fair and go a bunch of business cards and then put their info in the sheet. ill reach out when we have a date
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but im in atl so they arent really local so i bet we will gey better responses from local people
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ColorfulKnoll 05/08/2023 9:17 AM
Still awesome you did that, thanks for your hard work
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robin (they/it) 05/08/2023 9:18 AM
yeah no problem thanks for trying to take todo list items
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also if you want we do a lot of task delegation at mutual aid meetings and the next one is tonight
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ColorfulKnoll 05/08/2023 9:19 AM
Maybe next meeting, I stayed up all night so im probably not in tip top shape for stuff like delegation meetings
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Would love to join you next time tho
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robin (they/it) 05/08/2023 9:20 AM
yeah they are every monday night
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ColorfulKnoll 05/08/2023 9:20 AM
Noted, I'll put it on my calendar
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I want to be available if I'm needed for anything but I'm overwhelmed with too many discord servers. Many of you I know through DSA, IWW, or SCWP, so there's that, or you can always dm me. It's just becoming the same chaos of voices that drove me from FB & Twitter. Love you all!
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robin (they/it) 05/08/2023 11:50 AM
@ColorfulKnoll also you can look for places and events we could table at? if you want
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@ColorfulKnoll also you can look for places and events we could table at? if you want
ColorfulKnoll 05/08/2023 11:52 AM
I could try, I haven't been to many venue places but I could look around. I know there's a place around her lexington that holds a small market occasionally not sure if lexington is too far or not, I know most members are based in Columbia
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lexington is fine with me, i just wouldn't want to be alone bc i feel like lexington could be a little bit more transphobic
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ColorfulKnoll 05/08/2023 11:53 AM
If we set something up at lexington I'll try my best to be there
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Honestly, I haven't seen much blatant transphobia apart from when in HS and when I was getting notary signatures, but I mostly dress in gender neutral clothing so that could be why
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Camryn Aisling 05/08/2023 12:22 PM
Despite having decades of experience with lexington, I don't actually know all that much about it
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Mostly because it's so heavily suburbanized and pedestrian unfriendly
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having grown up in irmo, lexington scares me
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robin (they/it) 05/08/2023 12:24 PM
ive been looking at like various festivals and stuff in columbia but they all have a tabling fee and require licenses usually . we might could get around some of that if we email but im afraid of the authorities
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Camryn Aisling 05/08/2023 12:25 PM
Having grown up in Lexington, irmo scares me
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We are mortal rivals, you and I
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Fear our overabundance of poorly designed stroads
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ColorfulKnoll 05/08/2023 12:27 PM
And confederate flags and trump flags on commercial buildings (edited)
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Camryn Aisling 05/08/2023 12:28 PM
Gonna be honest, I've not seen a confederate flag on a commercial building in years
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Trump stickers and shit, yes, unfortunately
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ColorfulKnoll 05/08/2023 12:28 PM
There's a tattered trump flag at commercial building not too far away from me
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It's funny, really symbolizes the downfall
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It's like an art piece
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we should probably be thinking about stuff for pride month being that it's 4 weeks away
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seb it/they 05/08/2023 1:08 PM
oh fuckkk
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can we just hide under a rock
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i guess that's the opposite of pride
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robin (they/it) 05/08/2023 1:08 PM
i was thinking about social media stuff for that. what specifically do you want to think about? an oat pride event? or how to support other groups events? ... ? (edited)
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seb it/they 05/08/2023 1:09 PM
i think it's prime time for tabling tbh
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we should table at cola pride (in oct) but if possible we should table at other prides
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If that's the plan then we should reach out to the people hosting outfest (that's the June one right) about tabling there?
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robin (they/it) 05/08/2023 1:14 PM
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i can dm the outfest people to see if we can table ?
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Oh park circle pride
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I dont think i can go to that since ill be out of state but if there are any other pride events in charleston i can help with outreach
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robin (they/it) 05/08/2023 1:20 PM
i can do some social media digging to see if i can find anything
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robin (they/it)
i can dm the outfest people to see if we can table ?
Yeah we probably want to do that asap since it's coming up fast
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this is the vendor form but ill dm them anyways because there is a cost associated with getting a booth that maybe i can navigate us around
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robin (they/it) 05/08/2023 1:24 PM
(sarcasm) ^
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we arent even a fucking vendor we're a resistance org and if a pride festival or parade doesnt actively encourage resistance orgs to participate with low barrier to entry they know absolutely nothing about the history of pride
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robin (they/it) 05/08/2023 1:31 PM
i sent a dm and there was an auto we are busy reply with a link to their website
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not really much info on their website so... hoping they see the dm
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/08/2023 1:47 PM
Is there an email on their website @robin (they/it)
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robin (they/it) 05/08/2023 1:47 PM
info@scpride.org
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
Is there an email on their website @robin (they/it)
robin (they/it) 05/08/2023 1:47 PM
^
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robin (they/it) 05/08/2023 2:03 PM
in the regional chats i put larger pride events that i found so people from each region can decide if they want to table potentially im sure there will be more pride events and if people find those they want to table at i can dm places (edited)
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info@scpride.org
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/08/2023 3:06 PM
email sent to scpride
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they explicitly charge non-profits which is pretty scummy so i dont expect much
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cade (he/him) 05/08/2023 4:00 PM
the local drag queen vertigo responded to me asking if she’d be interested in coming to the mother’s day event! she said she might be able to come and would love to promote, should i ask her if she wants to be a speaker?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/08/2023 4:01 PM
definitely
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if some guy named jim walked up and said he just really loved his mom and wanted to talk about her id take it at this point
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cade (he/him) 05/08/2023 4:04 PM
and is there any extra info she would need to know if she’s a speaker, maybe a contact with one of the organizers cause idk if i’m gonna be there or not
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/08/2023 4:04 PM
ill be there, ill dm you info
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@Bernie is also our oh-fish-al contact
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and is there any extra info she would need to know if she’s a speaker, maybe a contact with one of the organizers cause idk if i’m gonna be there or not
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/08/2023 4:05 PM
she should know that we aim to have our speakers give messages of joy. we dont expect all sunshines and rainbows, but no trauma dumps or rants
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cade (he/him) 05/08/2023 4:09 PM
that’s a good note, i’ll point that out
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
if some guy named jim walked up and said he just really loved his mom and wanted to talk about her id take it at this point
I am a trans person with supportive parents so I can speak about that if needed
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seb it/they 05/08/2023 4:32 PM
please
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I also asked a free mom hugs person about if one of their folks could speak but that was earlier today so I haven't gotten a reply yet
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cade (he/him) 05/08/2023 4:33 PM
my dad works with a free mom hugs lady i should tell him to tell her
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mystic_darkwing 05/08/2023 4:33 PM
what event needs speakers? im good at public speaking but might not be qualified depending on what it is
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seb it/they 05/08/2023 4:34 PM
the mother's day event this weekend
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people willing to speak! if you'd like to speak about your (joyful) experiences of queer motherhood, queer childhood, or mothering/parenting a queer child, we'd love to amplify your voice! please dm @seb it/they or say something in ⁠mutual-aid to set up a speaking time!
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this is the prompt from earlier this week/desription
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mystic_darkwing 05/08/2023 4:34 PM
ah yeah i dont think im qualified but thanks
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seb it/they 05/08/2023 4:37 PM
you're still welcome to drop buy and grab some free cookies/hang out if you'd like
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mystic_darkwing 05/08/2023 4:38 PM
ill probably be busy with my mom depending on the day and i wouldn't feel comfortable bringing her to a queer event
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seb it/they 05/08/2023 4:38 PM
it's on saturday, no problem if you can't come though
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cade (he/him)
the local drag queen vertigo responded to me asking if she’d be interested in coming to the mother’s day event! she said she might be able to come and would love to promote, should i ask her if she wants to be a speaker?
We love vertigo, what a sweet queen
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imma be in vc for a while if anyone wants to chat
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seb it/they 05/08/2023 4:58 PM
i am working or i would ;-;
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cade (he/him)
and is there any extra info she would need to know if she’s a speaker, maybe a contact with one of the organizers cause idk if i’m gonna be there or not
Does this need to be a phone number, otherwise we can probably handle things through the Instagram
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cade (he/him) 05/08/2023 5:15 PM
i already gave her athena’s contact
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/08/2023 5:18 PM
@Bernie we booked the statehouse north lawn saturday, right? got people asking for specifics on location (edited)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
@Bernie we booked the statehouse north lawn saturday, right? got people asking for specifics on location (edited)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/08/2023 5:45 PM
thanks
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Hayden (he/they) 05/08/2023 7:56 PM
Hey @everyone, one idea that has been spread around is doing a meet-up between the @Upstate SC and the @Midlands SC in the form of a day hike in the upstate. We want to make sure that whatever hike is chosen is accessible to everyone who would like to go, so here are a few examples of what we could do: -Chimney Rock Elevator/Hike (cool vista with an elevator to make it accessible) -$17 a person -Caesar’s head (good vistas from the lot, good place to eat, range of trails) -$3 a person -Stumphouse Tunnel (more like a tourist attraction, small hiking section)/Upper Whitewater Falls (close by, cool overlook of a big waterfall up a short paved walkway) -$5 a car -Sassfras mountain (drive up view, limited easy hiking) -Free -Paris Mountian state park (Good mix of easy/hard, includes a lake with a trail and other wooded trails) -$6 per adult If you have any other ideas or thoughts about the hike, share them below. Emote with a 🌲 if you are an Upstate person willing to go, emote with a šŸ›ļø if you are a Midlands person interested in going
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Just to add above, one idea tossed around tonight was separating it into two events, one thats more like a day trip to the mountains and another that is specifcally a hike. We could do both, but first we need to gauge interest
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Can someone make an ai that replaces me
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cynthetic-prus
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im gonna go to costco soon- what do we need for the mothers day event
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/08/2023 10:49 PM
https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/269343/sunbutter-cookies-top-8-allergen-free/ if you want to buy ingredients for the cookies, we are planning on making this recipe (multiplied 6-8x)
Sunflower seed butter is the answer when you want an easy, allergen-free cookie without any gluten, nuts, dairy, or eggs.
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robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 8:19 AM
if youre at the events today take pictures please <3
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seb it/they 05/09/2023 8:21 AM
robin what did you add to the todo
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robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 8:22 AM
buncha things but it has sorted already so they are mixed in
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seb it/they 05/09/2023 8:24 AM
what does "not everyone trusts them" under stickers mean??
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robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 8:24 AM
people dont use qr codes from stickers
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seb it/they 05/09/2023 8:24 AM
ah yea
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that's why we need both the link and qr code
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this should be standard to add the link every time there is a qr code
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robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 8:33 AM
events for the next social media and mutual aid meetings have been created
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cipher yeah [: 05/09/2023 2:38 PM
here i’ll explain my pronoun thing here so i don’t take up space in introductions if that’s alright
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robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 2:39 PM
go for it
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cipher yeah [: 05/09/2023 3:28 PM
i will preface this is digital only! idk how it would work otherwise
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i already explained it to someone so i’m just screenshotting that explanation
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/09/2023 3:33 PM
null value pronouns
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seb it/they 05/09/2023 3:33 PM
Can you add alt text?
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cipher yeah [: 05/09/2023 3:36 PM
erm how do i do that actually
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/gen
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(i’m a little stupid sometimes)
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It’s just a description of a photo for people who use screen readers
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robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 3:38 PM
for this picture you will want to copy paste all the text
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you would edit the message to say alt text : .......
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cipher yeah [: 05/09/2023 3:40 PM
oh of course!
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cipher yeah [:
i already explained it to someone so i’m just screenshotting that explanation
cipher yeah [: 05/09/2023 3:48 PM
alt text: basically instead of typing out a pronoun, just put a bunch of spaces (usually around 5-7) here lemme go grab an example sentence also if you need actual grammatical stuff you can add things at the end like "i dont know if 'll be able to make it" or "have you asked cipher what think?" basically just kinda freeball it in a way to make it make sense
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robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 3:50 PM
perfect so if it was a picture of something else you would want to write a description of what was in the picture. you can also add it directly to the picture by holding down the image on mobile and editing the image description
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cipher yeah [: 05/09/2023 3:51 PM
ahhh ok
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robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 7:59 PM
stich and bitch now
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@Dingo (they/them) @JessicaM @Zenith (they/them) @lissie ! (pls ping) they/she @Ellie
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@seb it/they
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oh shoot i thought it was gonna be in a few days not today
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robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 8:03 PM
thats fine no pressure to come
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seb it/they 05/09/2023 8:04 PM
Sorry i am assembling a desk
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It is very loud
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Today took longer than I thought it would ;-;
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lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 05/09/2023 8:06 PM
I have had a not good day… how long does this last I might try and hop on for a few minutes in a few min
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robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 8:06 PM
i think we will probably go until 9
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lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 05/09/2023 8:07 PM
Ok šŸ‘
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Carrie (she/her) 05/09/2023 8:41 PM
Hi in addition to mutual aid I'd like to promote work/businesses led by people with disabilities in SC as apart of @Access Abolition SC on our Instagram if you're a person with a disability/neurodivergent and are an artist business owner etc I'd love to promote you on our page
seb it/they pinned a message to this channel. 05/09/2023 8:44 PM
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if you guys are still in there in 15 mins then ill join for a bit
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cipher yeah [:
alt text: basically instead of typing out a pronoun, just put a bunch of spaces (usually around 5-7) here lemme go grab an example sentence also if you need actual grammatical stuff you can add things at the end like "i dont know if 'll be able to make it" or "have you asked cipher what think?" basically just kinda freeball it in a way to make it make sense
I like this. Would this work vocally or is it more of a text only Pronoun?
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seb it/they 05/09/2023 9:01 PM
. stated it was text only (edited)
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cipher yeah [: 05/09/2023 9:02 PM
i just don’t know how to make it vocal!
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ColorfulKnoll 05/09/2023 9:04 PM
Maybe like a beep noise?
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robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 9:04 PM
manufacture your own sound
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Carrie (she/her) 05/09/2023 9:04 PM
Or blank
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ColorfulKnoll 05/09/2023 9:04 PM
Stopping mid sentence would be a good indicator
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cipher yeah [: 05/09/2023 9:05 PM
maybe, but i feel like that may be too complicated or confuse people too much
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i’m comfy keeping it digital only at the moment, since all of my friends are online at the moment
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that’s valid, im glad you found something that works for you
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are any of you al planning on watching the new season of drag race all stars
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maybe, but i feel like that may be too complicated or confuse people too much
robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 9:08 PM
your choices dont need to be dependent on other people understanding them.
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Carrie (she/her) 05/09/2023 9:09 PM
^^
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cipher yeah [: 05/09/2023 9:11 PM
ya but it’s also like a courtesy thing, i don’t wanna trip people up and break up the flow of conversation
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i already have a weird enough way of talking
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are any of you al planning on watching the new season of drag race all stars
cade (he/him) 05/09/2023 9:12 PM
y e s
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robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 9:13 PM
if youre comfy then youre comfy but you are allowed to be confusing and weird (positive) if you want to be
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Carrie (she/her) 05/09/2023 9:13 PM
@Cyprus I shared your ep post on OAT on Access Abolition SC's instagram story. If you'd like a formal promotion post I can make one
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first episode live stream in the server šŸ‘€
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robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 9:15 PM
i added a bunch of stuff from the oatfest meeting into the todo list and here are the meeting notes if anyone who wasnt there wants to get caught up to speed https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NrhC26HvdYu-v5neaOVCxm0Z3HnLPfh0obpJEpExheA/edit?usp=sharing
OATfest meeting When: Tuesday May 9th at 7 pm Where: Discord "meetings" Voice Chat Introductions Order of the Day Location ideas what do we need out of a venue outside capacity? length of time location/proximity to people No noise complaints Access to electricity and probably water Band cool d...
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if youre comfy then youre comfy but you are allowed to be confusing and weird (positive) if you want to be
cipher yeah [: 05/09/2023 9:16 PM
ya don’t worry i am very unapologetically strange (you can ask roman for more details :3)
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first episode live stream in the server šŸ‘€
cade (he/him) 05/09/2023 9:16 PM
i’m gonna watch w my family, BUT i watch this show do damn much that i’d be down for this too 🤭
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oh that’s so cool! I hope you and your family enjoy
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cade (he/him) 05/09/2023 9:22 PM
we will; but lemme know over when you’re available over the weekend and maybe we can make a small event out of it
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I will be flying out on Saturday so šŸ’€ I was planning on just Friday
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cade (he/him) 05/09/2023 9:29 PM
i think it comes out on saturday?
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wait it’s the 12th so friday; but idk when paramount+ is gonna drop em, we’ll keep in touch
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robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 9:32 PM
i followed all of the bands that were suggested in the meeting and some of them followed us back 0.o
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dm me or @ me if you have some more ill dm them when we get a date and venue
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cipher yeah [: 05/09/2023 9:34 PM
oh bands?
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i love music (:
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robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 9:36 PM
we are trying to put together a trans centered music festival fundraiser so if you have some local ish trans centered bands lmk and ill reach out
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cipher yeah [: 05/09/2023 9:36 PM
erm i don’t think i do zadly
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robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 9:37 PM
omg omg zad did you read my pined comment about zaxbys zaddness or do you just do that too
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cipher yeah [: 05/09/2023 9:38 PM
i just kinda started doing it
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idk why but itz fun
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mystic_darkwing 05/09/2023 9:38 PM
are we looking for well established local bands? i know a few people who play/write music who might be willing if we need more artists
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robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 9:38 PM
you are just like me for real ive been doing this for years
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cipher yeah [: 05/09/2023 9:39 PM
it’s inconziztent
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are we looking for well established local bands? i know a few people who play/write music who might be willing if we need more artists
robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 9:39 PM
they can be whoever it is easiest if they have an instagram presence so i can dm them
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mystic_darkwing 05/09/2023 9:40 PM
ill ask some people i think might be interested irl then give you their info if they are
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cipher yeah [:
it’s inconziztent
robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 9:41 PM
i only do it with some wordz specifically zad and zandalz
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ill ask some people i think might be interested irl then give you their info if they are
robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 9:41 PM
even if they arent interested i still want to follow them on the gram
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in other news there is this lib mom with a trans kid who just found out about transphobia and is going wild on her instagram making videos about it and tagging us. its a little bit funny.
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seb it/they 05/09/2023 9:51 PM
What is she saying
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robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 9:52 PM
she had a ted talk about gender and it got cancelled and shes mad
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in other news there is this lib mom with a trans kid who just found out about transphobia and is going wild on her instagram making videos about it and tagging us. its a little bit funny.
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/09/2023 10:01 PM
woah wtf someone should have told me earlier transphobia was a thing
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Is she from South Carolina
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the real tactic is trojan horsing mfs
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What does that mean
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"this ted talk is about how I (privileged cis white person) succeed in the world" Gets on stage "gender is a fuck :"
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Is she from South Carolina
robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 10:12 PM
her ted talk was supposed to be in sc
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lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 05/10/2023 7:44 AM
Hey for oatfest I live on like. 3 acres but its in NC :/
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 7:45 AM
i will keep it in mind though in case we dont get any other leads thank you
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lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 05/10/2023 7:46 AM
yeah ofc
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 7:51 AM
@mutual_aid anyone opposed to having the art swap on june 10th 10-12 ?
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seb it/they 05/10/2023 7:52 AM
Do we have a location?
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 7:52 AM
yes erlewood ampitheater
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i can go ahead and start messaging artists if we get a date and i feel like a month out is a good time to do that
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where is that? maps aren't showing anything
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 7:55 AM
i probably spelled it wrong
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uhhhh @Hayden (he/they)
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earlewood yeah, but again still not showing anything
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there's one at the riverwalk in west columbia
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 7:56 AM
Earlewood Park (803) 545-3100 https://maps.app.goo.gl/BSLXfDCmS9UR7vaW7
ā˜…ā˜…ā˜…ā˜…ā˜… · Park
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oh there's one at the earlewood park community center
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yep just found it
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thx
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robin (they/it)
@mutual_aid anyone opposed to having the art swap on june 10th 10-12 ?
Already two events that day
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 8:01 AM
damn what about the 25th ?
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 8:21 AM
@mutual_aid react to this message with the haircut emoji if sunday the 25th is a good idea
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Lmao i called in to nascar on Sirius xm should I talk about transgender when they get to my call
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 9:29 AM
yes
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ColorfulKnoll 05/10/2023 9:29 AM
100%
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Trans rep in racing
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She’s trans on my rep till I’m racing
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 9:30 AM
the stripper car is trans because it is purple the most trans color
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Hayden (he/they) 05/10/2023 9:38 AM
Don't bother going to the DMV today, it's confederate memorial day
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cipher yeah [: 05/10/2023 9:38 AM
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Lmao i called in to nascar on Sirius xm should I talk about transgender when they get to my call
Record it
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This will be difficult as I’m called in on my phone
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Think I’m about to go on
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seb it/they 05/10/2023 9:40 AM
this is what the podcast mic is for
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Promote OAT
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seb it/they 05/10/2023 9:40 AM
lol record it on your laptop
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Hayden (he/they) 05/10/2023 9:40 AM
What station is it? We could probably get a tape
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Sirius xm nascar radio
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Hayden (he/they) 05/10/2023 9:40 AM
What channel
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seb it/they 05/10/2023 9:40 AM
Your radio home for 24/7/365, unprecedented inside access to everything NASCAR.
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ugh it's trying to make me sign innnnNNNN
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noooo
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I need to call into radio stations more it’s so much fun
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seb it/they 05/10/2023 9:43 AM
you should make fun of confederate memorial day
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say you've been trans longer than the confederacy existed
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So trueee
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Sadly that’s not true for me as of now
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seb it/they 05/10/2023 9:44 AM
sad
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Hayden (he/they) 05/10/2023 9:51 AM
Say John Brown was a hero
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So true
09:53
Read uncle Jimmy's letter
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Doxxed
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They took my call i went like ā€œtransgenderā€ and then got disconnected
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seb it/they 05/10/2023 9:53 AM
lolll
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(Although the hosts were very kind I think it’s just how call-ins work)
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Once they take your call they automatically disconnect you to free up the line
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One time I called into Paul Finebaum’s show and sad I speculated that they estrogenized Kentucky’s offensive line
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seb it/they 05/10/2023 9:55 AM
tbh reaching out to nascar/stuff like that might be a way to get to more rural queer people
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seb it/they 05/10/2023 9:55 AM
me pulling up to darlington with a hazmat suit, 5 trans flags and body armor
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Darlington is this week!
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seb it/they 05/10/2023 9:56 AM
oh fuck
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aren't most call-ins not live?
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seb it/they 05/10/2023 9:56 AM
idk i feel like we would get hatecrimed
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This one was
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oh so true
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does sirius xm have the same FCC things?
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or can they risk someone sayin shit
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No you can say anything on sxm
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seb it/they 05/10/2023 9:57 AM
they host howard stern
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can we get a station on there to spread propaganda
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seb it/they 05/10/2023 9:57 AM
lol lets record the podcast regularly first
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Probably not it’s probably really expensive
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also we'd have to be like "nooooo fine i guess i won't advocate violence on air, whateverrr"
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 10:49 AM
im going to start reaching out to artists with the date the 25th
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sounds good
10:52
we should make irl signs we can put up in earlewood
10:52
i've seen similar advertising for other community events
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robin (they/it)
im going to start reaching out to artists with the date the 25th
robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 11:51 AM
done
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have we booked the venue?
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/do you know what needs to be done about that
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 11:52 AM
i can call the park today
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ok so i called them they said there was already a reservation but i think that was inside the building. but the person said i have to make my own reservation online or in person and i cant find where to make it online
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there are like 3 websites and none of them have info on how to reserve a spot
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can you link the websites?
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Located in the Earlewood neighborhood just north of downtown Columbia, Earlewood Park features a new Community Center, one-of-a-kind playground, amphitheater, disc golf course, baseball/kickball fields, basketball courts and tennis courts. Earlewood Park is also home to NoMa Bark Park, a two-acre off-leash dog park.
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All rental reservations can be made in person at the City of Columbia Parks and Recreation Administration Office, 1111 Recreation Drive, Columbia, S.C. 29201 between 8:30 am-5 pm Monday through Friday. Payments are also accepted online https://parksandrec.columbiasc.gov/online-registration/. A minimum of fifteen (15) business days notice is required for most reservations. Any reservations for concerts, festivals, or amphitheaters must be done sixty (60) days or more in advance; this includes but is not limited to Finlay Park (under renovation) and Riverfront Park. No reservations will be taken by telephone. If you have a question that is not covered here, or for availability, please contact our office at 803-545-3100.
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this makes it sound like we'd have to pay
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this looks like you can only reserve the banquet room at earlewood
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they've got both ballfeilds, banquet room, and picnic shelter reservations
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 12:11 PM
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but thats the only earlewood one?
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yeah if you search all locaitons it lists more
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 12:11 PM
i might be confusioned
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idk why it doesn't list it on there, the website is really shitty
12:12
in the future we need to have location fully pinned down before we advertise/start reaching out to artists
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just bc if can't get it and have to change the date that gets confusing quickly
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tbh it's also likely we could just go to the ampitheater and set up tables
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 12:14 PM
i searched all still no way to reserve the ampitheater
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tbh it's also likely we could just go to the ampitheater and set up tables
robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 12:14 PM
this is what i was thinking
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yeah i think the easiest way to book is going to be in person
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 12:23 PM
i feel like such an out of state agitator right now i be doing a ton of oat planning work but from another state
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 12:44 PM
ok i know we just talked about not contacting people until we know how the event is gonna go but if i reach out to the bands and be like hey we gonna plan oatfest if you want to perform and help us plan it get in the discord ?
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cade (he/him) 05/10/2023 12:46 PM
that’s not a bad idea
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i think that's a bad idea tbh
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cade (he/him) 05/10/2023 12:46 PM
oh mixed reactions
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mostly bc bands can't say their avalibility until they know when/where we are going
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bc they might have other shows/transport concerns etc
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i don't think it's a bad idea to invovle bands in the process of planning the thing thouhg
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though
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cade (he/him) 05/10/2023 12:47 PM
maybe we could mention the idea to them as to gauge interest or options, tell them a lot’s still up in the air but they’ll be kept up to date with changes; but that they’d be welcome to helping plan in the discord?
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i also missed the planning meeting and haven't read the notes
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 12:48 PM
i was mainly trying to get them to help plan it because there are parts where we know nothing about and the bands would probably be really helpful in letting us know what they need
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cade (he/him)
maybe we could mention the idea to them as to gauge interest or options, tell them a lot’s still up in the air but they’ll be kept up to date with changes; but that they’d be welcome to helping plan in the discord?
robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 12:49 PM
this is kinda what i was thinking
12:53
hi, we are organize against transphobia (oat) we are thinking of putting together a fundraiser show to help fund some of our mutual aid projects and that centers queer and trans musicians. now a ton of stuff is still up in the air, but if yall would like to be included in the planning process we would greatly appreciate it, and you can join us here in the discord. thanks, oat (edited)
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i would maybe add something about "we wanted to additionally feature queer/trans talent in the state"
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or something like that
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 12:58 PM
i edited the message is that better?
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yeah
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 12:59 PM
:)
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 1:07 PM
got responses from 2 band already
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one of them is already in here lol
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and one of them is joining
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seb it/they 05/10/2023 1:07 PM
lol i guess that worked
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nice
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 1:14 PM
can we have another oatfest meeting next tuesday ?
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seb it/they 05/10/2023 1:14 PM
oh yeah i assumed it would be regular
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just forgot to schedule the next one
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 05/10/2023 1:15 PM
Oh shoot y'all I'm sorry I missed the first one. I've been dealing with a lot of stuff these past couple weeks so I didn't know we'd started that. šŸ™ƒ
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seb it/they 05/10/2023 1:15 PM
it's okay aaron
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take care of yourself transheart let us know if you need any support or anything
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i also missed it bc i was assembling tables
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 1:16 PM
i was late because i forgor
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really cade pulled it all together
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@BIG DEEJ i made a new event for oatfest planning and added the meeting notes. rn it has everything we talked about yesterday, but feel free to add stuff we didnt think about so we can talk about it next time (edited)
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@laurent ^
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gwen from when i say jump should be coming too :)
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robin (they/it)
gwen from when i say jump should be coming too :)
GwenTheVampireQueen 05/10/2023 1:42 PM
Am here!
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 1:43 PM
feel free to edit the meeting notes
13:43
we really need help making sure your/bands needs are met
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seb it/they 05/10/2023 1:44 PM
if you need drive access you can just dm me an email too
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 1:54 PM
a band called joy is discussing it :)
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GwenTheVampireQueen 05/10/2023 1:57 PM
This is all a bit overwhelming for me right now. šŸ˜… what do y’all need from me or WISJ?
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 1:58 PM
we would like it if you could come to the planning meeting next week :)
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GwenTheVampireQueen
This is all a bit overwhelming for me right now. šŸ˜… what do y’all need from me or WISJ?
robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 1:59 PM
i know its a lot right now sorry to push you in the deep end a little im just really excited
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GwenTheVampireQueen 05/10/2023 2:05 PM
Is it 7 pm Tuesday?
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 2:05 PM
yes
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GwenTheVampireQueen 05/10/2023 2:05 PM
I’ll try my best to come!
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Voice chat?
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 2:06 PM
yup !
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mystic_darkwing 05/10/2023 2:32 PM
i have someone who might be down to play oatfest
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 2:33 PM
get them in here or ill dm them in a little bit
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 3:09 PM
@BIG DEEJ @laurent @Cowboy_Bones_ @ShadeHels so the big idea is to have a covid friendly and accessible music festival that raises funds for mutual aid projects. we had a meeting about planning this last night and ran into a lot of issues because we didnt know what bands would need or how to make everything work for them. would yall be able to go to another planning meeting next tuesday at 7? if you want to edit the meeting notes you can dm @seb it/they or another mod your email and they will add you to the drive. we also dont want to just tokenize yall as "the oat band people" so feel free to take part in other projects, go to meetings, post your pets, whatever you want and we will always be here if you need some help or mutual aid. we do have an online hangout tonight if anyone wants to come. there isnt a meeting or plan really its just a hangout time to build community. (edited)
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cipher yeah [: 05/10/2023 3:14 PM
good afternoon everyone :D
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seb it/they 05/10/2023 3:15 PM
hihi
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robin (they/it)
@BIG DEEJ @laurent @Cowboy_Bones_ @ShadeHels so the big idea is to have a covid friendly and accessible music festival that raises funds for mutual aid projects. we had a meeting about planning this last night and ran into a lot of issues because we didnt know what bands would need or how to make everything work for them. would yall be able to go to another planning meeting next tuesday at 7? if you want to edit the meeting notes you can dm @seb it/they or another mod your email and they will add you to the drive. we also dont want to just tokenize yall as "the oat band people" so feel free to take part in other projects, go to meetings, post your pets, whatever you want and we will always be here if you need some help or mutual aid. we do have an online hangout tonight if anyone wants to come. there isnt a meeting or plan really its just a hangout time to build community. (edited)
robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 3:15 PM
@pear (he/they)
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pear (he/they) 05/10/2023 3:15 PM
ty
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is this happening in columbia or
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 3:17 PM
well we dont have a venue yet so ideally yes but we dont really know yer
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pear (he/they) 05/10/2023 3:17 PM
ah cool
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seb it/they 05/10/2023 3:18 PM
If you know cool cheap outdoor venues tell us ;-;
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We are currently thinking possibly someone's back yard/property
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pear (he/they) 05/10/2023 3:18 PM
im sure lin our guitarist would have something i can ask them
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but i have no idea
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seb it/they 05/10/2023 3:18 PM
Okie sounds good lol
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pear (he/they) 05/10/2023 3:19 PM
our area has a lot of rotten venues unfortuantly
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 6:56 PM
online hang out in a few minutes :3
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/10/2023 7:00 PM
i dont have the energy right now
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feeling pretty garbage today
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seb it/they 05/10/2023 7:03 PM
I have to code stuff
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robin (they/it)
online hang out in a few minutes :3
ColorfulKnoll 05/10/2023 7:03 PM
I would join but I'm very angry
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I will at some point but I’m watching andor
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Very important
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I would join but I'm very angry
seb it/they 05/10/2023 7:05 PM
#vent-no-advice is open if you need
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Hayden (he/they) 05/10/2023 7:05 PM
I'll be on in a bit
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ColorfulKnoll 05/10/2023 7:05 PM
Thank you but it's just about my ex, I've already vented just been some updates transheart
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robin (they/it)
@BIG DEEJ @laurent @Cowboy_Bones_ @ShadeHels so the big idea is to have a covid friendly and accessible music festival that raises funds for mutual aid projects. we had a meeting about planning this last night and ran into a lot of issues because we didnt know what bands would need or how to make everything work for them. would yall be able to go to another planning meeting next tuesday at 7? if you want to edit the meeting notes you can dm @seb it/they or another mod your email and they will add you to the drive. we also dont want to just tokenize yall as "the oat band people" so feel free to take part in other projects, go to meetings, post your pets, whatever you want and we will always be here if you need some help or mutual aid. we do have an online hangout tonight if anyone wants to come. there isnt a meeting or plan really its just a hangout time to build community. (edited)
robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 8:27 PM
@IBTMx208
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So we have some venues up here that I’m aware of. A place called papermoon studios (can find them on insta), they offered us a gig. But they’re indoors. I can pull some strings at the queer wellness center in Greenville and maybe get them to let us use part of their facility (but don’t put money on my ability to secure that) and I’m not sure the scale you’re hoping to achieve here. As far as logistics. I own a PA system, so as long as we have power, and everyone brings their own instruments we can have vocals. Sorry this is a lot.
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 8:38 PM
im not quite sure what the scale would be either but we are hoping to get a pretty large turn out we have one potential venue offered to us but it is in nc :// i think the best thing would be to find some one with a house and a large yard, but it seems we don't have many home owners in chat (edited)
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or maybe a large parking lot ?
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would the queer wellness center be a primarily outdoors venue?
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@Declan also suggested a place in greenville what was it called again ?
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robin (they/it)
@Declan also suggested a place in greenville what was it called again ?
I don’t have any idea if they’d be a realistic option but I mentioned The Melon Barn (in Greer)
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They’ve always had a pretty trans friendly vibe and have had trans bands playing plenty of times but they’re not like, specifically a Queer Venue or anything
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The melon barn is kinda exactly what you’re looking for but I wouldn’t know how to navigate that. And the queer wellness center, idk I’d have to look into it more
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 8:55 PM
i can always just email them 🤷 and hope for the best
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seb it/they 05/10/2023 9:00 PM
@A-A-Ron (they/them) mentioned their yard
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Oh I was wondering if melon barn had outdoor space
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I’ve heard it’s a really cool venue
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 9:06 PM
lil deccy loves it
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Lil deccy?
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 9:06 PM
declan
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if you were at the online hangout you would know šŸ’…
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pear (he/they) 05/10/2023 9:07 PM
It has a massive outside area
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Very spacous
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Idk if yall could arrange it with the owners tho
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Would probably just take an email where we say ā€œwe’re trying to have a trans mosh pitā€
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pear (he/they) 05/10/2023 9:13 PM
Yeah probably just mention that yall are wanting to do a charity show to raise trans awareness and theyd be down
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@A-A-Ron (they/them) mentioned their yard
A-A-Ron (they/them) 05/10/2023 9:14 PM
Yes, of course! I'd have to get the okay from my landlord. But it's a big space. Only caveats are 1) it's rural, an hour outside of Columbia 2) capacity for electricity. We'd have to get really creative with plugging everything in. But, it is a big space.
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 9:15 PM
ive got extension cords i can bring
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check with your landlord before we do any planning
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Does anyone have a generator? That might be the best bet for not fucking up their electricity
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seb it/they 05/10/2023 9:18 PM
Can't you like rent one?
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Better if we dont have to spend money
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but yes
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 9:18 PM
i applied for a grant for this so we might potentially have dollars we could use to rent a generator
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when is oatfest?
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tentative? (edited)
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seb it/they 05/10/2023 9:19 PM
October (ish)
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I can offer my musical talents 100% for it in that case
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Or equipment if anyone needs
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I have two sm58 mics for micing up guitar cabs as needed šŸ‘
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among other things
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I would love to perform I think a venue surrounded by friends would make me more comfy (but I would have to see how I feel closer)
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Would people mosh to my acoustic guitar šŸ‘‰šŸ‘ˆ (edited)
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i love aggresive acoustic tracks sm
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Yippee
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Speaking of which I’m playing a show Saturday in Lexington
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^^GO IF YOU CAN
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im so sad i cant go but gl <3
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Cyprus
Would people mosh to my acoustic guitar šŸ‘‰šŸ‘ˆ (edited)
me moshing to christmas vacation blues
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That song has a fast part
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 9:30 PM
graduate >>>>>>
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everyone is just gonna go AAAAAAAAAA when that parts comes on
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christmas >>>>>>
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 9:32 PM
do you listen on yt music ?
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spotify for me
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 9:33 PM
damn im trying to find the other youtube subscriber so we can deul
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ahhaah
21:34
ill go subscribe hold on
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robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 9:35 PM
no no i will always be the first and no one can take that away from me 😤
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im the 3rd 😤
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wait i have an idea
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gonna make a button that says im the 3rd subscriber
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I shouldn't be allowed to have to button maker
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ColorfulKnoll 05/10/2023 9:41 PM
No no, that's fantastic
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I love that
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excuse my hOrrible handwriting hahaha
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Hayden (he/they)
Hey @everyone, one idea that has been spread around is doing a meet-up between the @Upstate SC and the @Midlands SC in the form of a day hike in the upstate. We want to make sure that whatever hike is chosen is accessible to everyone who would like to go, so here are a few examples of what we could do: -Chimney Rock Elevator/Hike (cool vista with an elevator to make it accessible) -$17 a person -Caesar’s head (good vistas from the lot, good place to eat, range of trails) -$3 a person -Stumphouse Tunnel (more like a tourist attraction, small hiking section)/Upper Whitewater Falls (close by, cool overlook of a big waterfall up a short paved walkway) -$5 a car -Sassfras mountain (drive up view, limited easy hiking) -Free -Paris Mountian state park (Good mix of easy/hard, includes a lake with a trail and other wooded trails) -$6 per adult If you have any other ideas or thoughts about the hike, share them below. Emote with a 🌲 if you are an Upstate person willing to go, emote with a šŸ›ļø if you are a Midlands person interested in going
Hayden (he/they) 05/10/2023 9:46 PM
Did anyone have other thoughts about this? Given the number of people interested I'm thinking a day trip to the mountains sounds like a good idea
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mystic_darkwing 05/10/2023 9:48 PM
ive heard good things about caesars head, never been though so i cant confirm
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Cyprus
Speaking of which I’m playing a show Saturday in Lexington
Camryn Aisling 05/10/2023 9:51 PM
Oh shit, are tickets still available
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Camryn Aisling
Oh shit, are tickets still available
Yes I’ll dm you a link for them
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Camryn Aisling 05/10/2023 9:53 PM
Oh, uh, one sec, lemme allow dms
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There we go
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mystic_darkwing
i have someone who might be down to play oatfest
mystic_darkwing 05/10/2023 9:55 PM
nbd but did anyone get any follow up on this?
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robin (they/it)
damn im trying to find the other youtube subscriber so we can deul
AsterTheDisaster 05/10/2023 10:53 PM
I just subscribed on YouTube but I haven't used it since I was deep in the closet still listening to only Christian music šŸ’€
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So my subscription list is hilarious
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nbd but did anyone get any follow up on this?
robin (they/it) 05/11/2023 6:51 AM
sorry i thought you were gonna dm them
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i can do it later today
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lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 05/11/2023 11:13 AM
this is a silly question but can someone help me add alt text on squarespace
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lissie ! (pls ping) they/she
this is a silly question but can someone help me add alt text on squarespace
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/11/2023 11:16 AM
sure
11:16
show me whatcha need
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lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 05/11/2023 11:18 AM
ok nvm my dad found a way to outsmart the computer
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basically work asked me to add alt text to all the images on the website and it wouldnt let me save after i added alt text as if i hadnt changed anything
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This is just a general advice thing but do I actually need a credit card. One of my friends was kind of judging me for my lack of one
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 05/11/2023 3:28 PM
I personally think it would be irresponsible for me to have one. But I've heard it's a good idea to start building credit.
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Depends on how you want to use it really- good to build credit with
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My brother (who is also 19) has quickly accumulated a suffocating amount of debt via credit cards because of thinking its basically free money
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Just be careful yk
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oh yeesh
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but thank you for explaining it like that
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/11/2023 3:58 PM
i have a discover student card thats very forgiving
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ive never paid a dime more than i would have on debit, theres no fees, overdraw, etc
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can like it if yo uwant @regan-they
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
can like it if yo uwant @regan-they
could you dM it? thanks Athena I appreciate it
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seb it/they 05/11/2023 4:03 PM
I got mine to start building credit for renting purposes
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Since a lot of rentals do credit checks
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/11/2023 4:07 PM
i literally fell for the oldest trick in the book
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they mail you a card to get you hooked\
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but i read the terms and they were actually very favourable
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to this day i still havent paid any interest
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
i have a discover student card thats very forgiving
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/11/2023 4:10 PM
they also have super high interest savings accounts if someone needs one of those
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its literally hundreds of times more interest than i was getting at wells fargo
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seb it/they 05/11/2023 4:11 PM
I started out with a secure deposit card from my bank
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/11/2023 4:12 PM
wells fargo mailed me a thing when i was 15 (edited)
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had no fees
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so i just was like fuck it i have a debit card now
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I build good credit with my credit card by treating it like a debit card
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I have it set up so that I automatically pay my balance in full every month on the exact day so I don’t forget
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And I don’t buy anything with it that I don’t know I’ll have the money to pay back in my bank account by that day
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seb it/they 05/11/2023 4:38 PM
I also do this
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Promoted oat in the queer channel of the rivers cuomo (weezer guy) server
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Is it the official rivers chomp server
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Cuomo
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Yes he’s in there and owns it
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robin (they/it) 05/11/2023 7:38 PM
my friend, saachi, loves weezer a little too much
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saachi is so right for that
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robin (they/it) 05/11/2023 7:45 PM
ill tell her you said that. saachi got for her birthday a shirt that has the blue album cover and says i <3 one direction
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Blue album anniversary was yesterday
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It’s 29 yrs old
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robin (they/it) 05/11/2023 7:50 PM
is weezer your special interest ?
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what if rivers cuomo joined oat ?
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BenjaminIsaac 05/11/2023 7:51 PM
weezer at oatfest please
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robin (they/it)
is weezer your special interest ?
yes I’d say so
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3 years and I can’t stop won’t stop, seeing them live this year though
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BenjaminIsaac
weezer at oatfest please
robin (they/it) 05/11/2023 7:57 PM
if weezer is not at oatfest i blame regan (joke)
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not sure if I could swing it…
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maybe a cover band
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I used to know a lot of Pinkerton on guitar but I forgor
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Pink triangle on her sleeve šŸŽµ
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lemme know the truth lemme knoooow the truth
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robin (they/it) 05/11/2023 8:03 PM
lai if you dont perform at least one weezer song regan will hate you forever (joke)
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i will not hate her
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lai is free!
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Shiver me Timbers I’ll break out the buddy holly lick that I learned 7 years ago
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Bew new nowwowowowo wooooow
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i actually do not really like buddy holly its almost…weirdly too much for my ears
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robin (they/it) 05/11/2023 8:05 PM
hot takes with regan
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I like blue as a whole tho (edited)
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weezer also got me to start drawing again after an extended break, and I’ve met a lot of cool people cause of being fan
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i have my issues with weezer and the fans among other things but 🤷
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Beverly Hills is their worst song hot takes
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there’s definitely worse.
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Crab is definitely worse
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Thanks for unleashing that memory on me
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you’re welcome
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Im happy you’re coming to campus next year im building my weezer army
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I only listen to Pinkerton and Blue I’m old man yells at cloud core
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I went from loving them in middle school, thinking I was too cool for them in high school, now I enjoy them again
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i bounce around the discog but they’ve released 4 albums in 2022 and I have refused to listen
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Look,, no hate to them… but after black I stopped paying attention
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valid
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Black was something special
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I have actually not heard that album. I like high as a kite though
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The album art grossed me out I don’t like that they’re gooey
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YOU GET IT
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they got splated with goo wtf
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Hey I was told there was a music festival that's happening is there a place I can apply to play or somewhere with information
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oh yeah Oatfest, we’re having meetings on them and for now we’re just building a list of interested artists. We have our next meeting on May 16th
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Are the meetings in person
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No they’re on here
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Which city will this be in?
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still figuring that out for now but most likely somewhere midlands
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seb it/they 05/12/2023 8:56 AM
how is everyone this morning :3
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good! sleepy
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Hayden (he/they) 05/12/2023 9:03 AM
Getting ready for my friends wedding this weekend
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robin (they/it) 05/12/2023 9:04 AM
i love going to weddings but mostly because i love dancing
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Hayden (he/they) 05/12/2023 9:16 AM
I like the open bar
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robin (they/it) 05/12/2023 9:26 AM
the last wedding i went to i was dd for my whole family which was funny because my mom and aunt were drunkenly fighting over the music and my cousin was trying to give everyone lollipops she found in their purse.
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BenjaminIsaac 05/12/2023 9:28 AM
I haven’t been to a wedding in ages
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last one actually might have been my cousin’s when I was like 13
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but hey maybe my brother will propose next month after his gf’s sister’s wedding is done (we suspect they just don’t want to steal the spotlight)
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robin (they/it) 05/12/2023 9:29 AM
we gotta find oatbert a love interest so we can have an oat wedding
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BenjaminIsaac 05/12/2023 9:31 AM
he marries wheatley from portal 2
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JR (they/he) 05/12/2023 9:37 AM
I have two weddings to attend later this year... My wife and I are that age I guess
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If any of my trans friends want to get married I will be so excited for their weddings because I will absolutely sob because weddings are pretty
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seb it/they 05/12/2023 9:44 AM
i'm about to probably be the only gay person at my cousins wedding
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with a bunch of family who i don't think knows i went on T lol
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robin (they/it)
we gotta find oatbert a love interest so we can have an oat wedding
Hayden (he/they) 05/12/2023 9:50 AM
Oatina
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Weddings are so unbelievably expensive
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JR (they/he) 05/12/2023 9:50 AM
Can confirm
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/12/2023 9:50 AM
Getting married sounds cool but also i dont wanna
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Hayden (he/they) 05/12/2023 9:51 AM
If I do Tanklin is going to be the ring bearer
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JR (they/he) 05/12/2023 9:51 AM
I didn't really want to either, but it was important to my wife
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And we'd been together 6 years when I proposed so we felt pretty stable
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Hayden (he/they)
If I do Tanklin is going to be the ring bearer
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/12/2023 9:52 AM
You DID NOT name that thing
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No
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Nooooo
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Hayden (he/they) 05/12/2023 9:52 AM
Wym that's what it says on the birth certificate
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seb it/they 05/12/2023 9:52 AM
lol it has always been named franklin
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Hayden (he/they) 05/12/2023 9:52 AM
When I was 6-7 I was the ring bearer for my cousins wedding
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seb it/they 05/12/2023 9:53 AM
i was the brides maid in my mom's second wedding
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it was very weird
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JR (they/he) 05/12/2023 9:53 AM
I was a flower girl when I was about 5 šŸ˜–
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Hayden (he/they) 05/12/2023 9:53 AM
I kept thinking they were saying "ring bear" and I legit thought they would put me in a bear outfit šŸ’€
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seb it/they 05/12/2023 9:54 AM
that would be soo cool
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like just unleash a blackbear on the wedding
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with rings vaugely tied to it
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Hayden (he/they) 05/12/2023 9:54 AM
I never brought it up to my family until I was an adult and they thought it was the funniest thing
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Holy shit guys
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What’s up?
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Patience today was worn to it's bare nub with one of my coworkers
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damn
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what was up with them?
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Worthless p.o.s
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I'll elaborate more when I get home
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I hope you feel better dealing with difficult people can be so draining
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Long and short of it is that he's fucking lazy even by my lefty standards, he's slow as fuck to get anything done, and he can't do anything accurately
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He should not be a welder
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I don’t think it’s a fair assessment to judge another employee’s work ethic or skill as long as it isn’t directly harming anyone /lighthearted (edited)
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seb it/they 05/12/2023 5:51 PM
Can you type out the full thingy
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I don't remember what that stands for ;-;
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/Lh means lighthearted
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seb it/they 05/12/2023 5:53 PM
Can you edit the original message
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There we go
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We should probably pin the full tone indicator list
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seb it/they 05/12/2023 5:55 PM
Do you have it?
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what they are, why we should use them, and ones I'm aware of
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seb it/they 05/12/2023 5:56 PM
It's offical oat whatever to type the whole thing out
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Just bc no one can remember them all
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And they are confusing
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Ooooooo Oki I’ll remember now I never knew
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seb it/they 05/12/2023 5:56 PM
Yep
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seb it/they
Just bc no one can remember them all
I spent too much time on anarchist servers as a teenager they’ve been engrained in how I talk 😭
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seb it/they 05/12/2023 5:57 PM
It's in the new accessibility portion of the oat FAQ that I've been too busy coding to update
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lai
I don’t think it’s a fair assessment to judge another employee’s work ethic or skill as long as it isn’t directly harming anyone /lighthearted (edited)
I would be more forgiving if it weren't a sustained pattern, which it has been
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no chance your work place is a little internally organized/communicative? not so much in the sense of being unionized but if you’re all fairly tight and talk to eachother
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cause if so maybe y’all could talk to this underperforming fellow and be like ā€œhey chief, what the fuck? can we figure out a way to right this ship?ā€
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pickles- they/them (mel) 05/13/2023 10:11 AM
I hope the mothers event goes really well today! In honor of the day, I thought I’d share with you some businesses that donate to Moms For Liberty: -Hall Management Group -Pat Forsberg -Hyams Garden Center -Shannon & Philip Berlinsky (does "event and fundraising" for CHS MFL) -Solt Wellness -Golden Glow Wellness -Renie Forsberg ("meeting coordinator" for CHS MFL) -Lynda Wall (Owner of Forty Love locatec at Patina Market) -Tammy Kanapaux -Embassy Suites Charleston Harbor -Lisa Rivers -Bach to Rock -Charleston Laser Teeth Whitening (they wrote "Charlesotn Laser -Teeth Whiteining") -Beach Cowboy Fitness (edited)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/13/2023 10:22 AM
Red alert, weiner dog parade
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We are running late but on our way, some bike maintenance was needed
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Most wieners have went away
10:40
Chain still not dropped, I’m calling again
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/13/2023 10:43 AM
Do we have ETA on a table @jacklyn
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
Red alert, weiner dog parade
ColorfulKnoll 05/13/2023 10:50 AM
This looks like a very pleasant interruption
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
Red alert, weiner dog parade
YOOOOO
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One time at a stingrays hockey game they had a wiener dog race on ice and my poor dog was just getting zoomies and running the wrong direction
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To all those at the Mother’s Day event I send my love in spirit
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woooooh (ghost noises)
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Woooooooh
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/13/2023 9:33 PM
hows everyone doing
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watching a really bad movie
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It’s the most homophobic thing I’ve ever experienced, and I’ve had multiple exorcisms performed on me
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no chance your work place is a little internally organized/communicative? not so much in the sense of being unionized but if you’re all fairly tight and talk to eachother
Well, I'll try to explain the situation
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For context we are organized into cells that handle different types of tasks. For us it's specialized smaller components. Smaller in context to massive 40 ft long pipes that are being welded into communications towers. Anyway so we are divided into cells with a Lead Man, who coordinates tasks and communicate with management. Lead Guys are welders like the rest of us but have more responsibility.
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We get plans for a piece that needs to be finished that day, it's a perforated semicircle of steel with a wide flat piece of metal that runs along the outside radius perpendicular and flush to the perforated piece.
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We all clock out at 3:30 roughly and we got these parts by 2:30. I had my half of the task welded and completed by 3:00 while he had only completed one side. He complained that he couldn't be there all day to the Lead, making it sound like he needed to leave immediately. The Lead agreed to finish his work.
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While this guy walks off, sits on a bucket and plays on his phone for the remaining 30 minutes while someone else did his work for him
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And this is following a months long pattern of laziness and low quality which was present in previous cells he's been in
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When I brought up that he had been fucking off for the last 30 minutes, he came back around, having overheard, and told me to tell him what I thought to his face
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So I did
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Imo, the way to right the ship is to transfer him out to like, powdercoat and paint
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i'll be in the hangouts vc until our mutual aid meeting if anyone wants to chat
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robin (they/it) 05/15/2023 6:16 PM
im buying handcuff keys who wants one ?
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me pls
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robin (they/it) 05/15/2023 6:19 PM
i think im gonna buy like 20 and give them out till i run out
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they are ~ a dollar a piece
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the cheapest location i found is "handcuff warehouse" i assume it is called that because it is a warehouse full of handcuffs
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James Harley 05/16/2023 5:16 PM
I’m not going to be at USC this year, I’m going back to Aiken. I’ll miss you all greatly.ā¤ļø
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James Harley
I’m not going to be at USC this year, I’m going back to Aiken. I’ll miss you all greatly.ā¤ļø
Wait you'll still be in the area tho, we can still do the things
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James Harley 05/16/2023 5:45 PM
I won’t be in Columbia, I’m moving back to Aiken for a year, but will be back next year.
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Yeah, Aiken, SC tho right?
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James Harley 05/16/2023 5:46 PM
Yeah, I’ll still be in SC
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Yeah, lot less ppl out that way but we can still show up
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James Harley 05/16/2023 5:48 PM
Show up to?
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Reminder that this is tomorrow
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James Harley
Show up to?
Whatever happens, whatever is going on, we can organize and pull up
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Irabella (Leilah)(she/fae) 05/16/2023 10:41 PM
Somethings happening at the statehouse. Lots of black suvs and cops. No lights tho
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right now?
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Irabella (Leilah)(she/fae) 05/16/2023 10:41 PM
Yes
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Sorry, by lots I mean 5 in one spot by a side entrance
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I've left because they started watching me.
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mystic_darkwing 05/16/2023 10:44 PM
damn stay safe
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Caboose
Whatever happens, whatever is going on, we can organize and pull up
James Harley 05/16/2023 10:44 PM
Oh okay šŸ‘
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Irabella (Leilah)(she/fae) 05/16/2023 10:44 PM
And by lights I meant blue flashing lights, damn it (edited)
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ColorfulKnoll 05/16/2023 10:45 PM
Break in at the state house? (edited)
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Irabella (Leilah)(she/fae) 05/16/2023 10:46 PM
Also I got to pet the state grounds kitty transcat
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ColorfulKnoll 05/16/2023 10:46 PM
Big win
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Irabella (Leilah)(she/fae) 05/16/2023 10:46 PM
Nah probably just a covert meeting to strip us of our rights before the clock runs out
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ColorfulKnoll 05/16/2023 10:47 PM
I hope not but politicians suck
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Irabella (Leilah)(she/fae)
Also I got to pet the state grounds kitty transcat
thats the real governor
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ColorfulKnoll 05/16/2023 10:48 PM
Is this like a situation where McMaster is like the anti-pope and we have to decide who's the real pope
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Irabella (Leilah)(she/fae) 05/16/2023 10:54 PM
But what of indulgences?
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Irabella (Leilah)(she/fae)
But what of indulgences?
ColorfulKnoll 05/16/2023 10:56 PM
They are accepted in the form of cat treats when precented to the true governor (edited)
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Irabella (Leilah)(she/fae)
Also I got to pet the state grounds kitty transcat
his name is leonardo
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I've had nothing to do at work for two weeks straight
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I am ready to crawl out of my own skin in boredom
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/18/2023 7:13 PM
anyone just wanna chat here for like a minute (edited)
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just need to distract myself
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yea im free
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/18/2023 7:13 PM
how are you doing
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head cold but other than that okay
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Hayden (he/they) 05/18/2023 7:14 PM
I was in a meow fight with the orange cat earlier
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He meowed at me in anger because he thinks I control the weather, and I meowed back to mock him
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^me when it rains at distro
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/18/2023 7:15 PM
i also meow at hayden during distro over the weather
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I saw some pretty cool views today(alt: a foresty mountain view from a rock)
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Hayden (he/they) 05/18/2023 7:16 PM
We put on quite a show for the unhoused people
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dinner and a show
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those are beautiful views athena
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/18/2023 7:17 PM
one of the people at finley complimented my pokemon pins and it made my day last sunday
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Someone dumped a bunch of glitter and sequins all over the trail for some reason(alt: rocky crevice full of glitter)
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there was a bunch of the stuff all over
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made me mad
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dont like :c
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i saw a similar thing down by the riverwalk a week or so ago, think it has to do with folx taking graduation photos
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seb it/they 05/18/2023 7:22 PM
Athena did you see the frog in my window
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It is still there
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/18/2023 7:22 PM
i did see the froggy
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Frog update
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@char froge
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FROGE!!!!
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
Someone dumped a bunch of glitter and sequins all over the trail for some reason(alt: rocky crevice full of glitter)
Hayden (he/they) 05/18/2023 7:35 PM
If I caught someone doing that I'd throw them off the mountain
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I'll make sure to grab some pics from the AT this weekend
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what section are you doing
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Hayden (he/they) 05/18/2023 7:40 PM
Early NC, I found a 25 mile loop
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Takes you past a firetower
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It's like mile 85-103 on the AT proper
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seb it/they
Click to see attachment šŸ–¼ļø
ColorfulKnoll 05/18/2023 7:54 PM
We need a fan page
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/18/2023 8:03 PM
omw to add frog updates page to the oat website
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seb it/they 05/19/2023 8:37 AM
Hihi
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How is everyone today
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I’m good! how r you seb
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seb it/they 05/19/2023 8:39 AM
Alright
08:39
Packing up to go to a medic training
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gl with that
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Hayden (he/they) 05/19/2023 8:39 AM
Getting rained on
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I also got rained on
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robin (they/it) 05/19/2023 8:59 AM
my mom is slightly mad that im turning my house into a train station house but it is fun for me and good for my mental health when my friends live in my house so ....
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seb it/they 05/19/2023 9:00 AM
Oop
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robin (they/it) 05/19/2023 9:08 AM
also some one told me i have a cheesecake ass and i think this is really funny
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 05/19/2023 9:11 AM
...what does that even mean?? šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚
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robin (they/it) 05/19/2023 9:12 AM
i dont know
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robin (they/it)
my mom is slightly mad that im turning my house into a train station house but it is fun for me and good for my mental health when my friends live in my house so ....
what is a train station house
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Hayden (he/they) 05/19/2023 1:38 PM
Too many trains coming through
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James Harley 05/19/2023 1:39 PM
My sentiments exactly
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Arnold Karr 05/19/2023 4:47 PM
I came across this 1914 film, A Florida Enchantment, which treats, through comedy, gender and race roles in the South of the Jim Crow era. I find it very provocative, especially considering the time it was made. I'd like to know what others think of it after viewing. https://youtu.be/ee_435UBxNo
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I think "lesbian movie" is a bit misleading, but watch and say what you think.
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Arnold Karr 05/19/2023 4:55 PM
One of the obvious flaws is the absence of Black actors, but I've only encountered one White directed film of the period in which Black characters were portrayed by Black actors. That was A Day's Pleasure starring Charlie Chaplin, who was an ardent anti-racist.
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Ian!
what is a train station house
robin (they/it) 05/19/2023 5:04 PM
a house where a variety of characters are consistently coming in and out
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James Harley 05/20/2023 12:06 AM
I’m 20!
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How many people would like a memorial day cookout?
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Are we smoking the dead soldier pack
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Question for people who are wanting to play at oatfest: what is your ratio of covers to original songs?
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