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@everyone Fascists, including proud boys, are planning on disrupting a drag show in North Charleston on December 23rd. Numbers are needed to counter them and defend queer celebration. Attacks on us come in the form of legislation but they also come in the form of vigilante violence. We keep us safe.
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It will be cold, if you choose to come (pls do and bring your friends!) remember to bundle up
08:51
Bring signs, noisemakers, and pride flags.
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Remember to have a buddy, don’t go alone. Have a plan for how to get in and get out. This will be somewhat spicy, we will be on a public sidewalk.
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seb it/they 12/19/2022 8:53 AM
Please make sure to mask and test for covid beforehand if possible
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If you intend on coming from out of Charleston, please coordinate carpooling here
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pinky they/she 12/19/2022 9:42 AM
I'll be in Charlotte unfortunately but if shit changes I'll let y'all know and I'll be there
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We may have some CLT people on the way. Has anyone spoke to the venue yet?
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I will try to be there.
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People who reached out to the venue didn’t get any sort of response, it’s a city of North Charleston property so the official event security is ncpd. That’s not gonna discourage fascists (cops and klan go hand in hand etc) and so we’re still gonna show up and show out and be on public sidewalks. Take up space before the fascists can,
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Numbers are absolutely needed for this. Will talk more about it in meeting at 6
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Bruh the rupauls christmas show?? Im planning on GOING to that 😭😭 driving down from florence for a few days. I hate homophobia
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People who reached out to the venue didn’t get any sort of response, it’s a city of North Charleston property so the official event security is ncpd. That’s not gonna discourage fascists (cops and klan go hand in hand etc) and so we’re still gonna show up and show out and be on public sidewalks. Take up space before the fascists can,
Watson Brown 12/19/2022 11:36 AM
This is unfortunate. I'll be at the previous show on the tour in Knoxville Thursday night where we'll be security and I'm a lot more comfortable with that. (edited)
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May as well just hop in the tour bus with them lmao
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Victor (they/them) 12/19/2022 12:31 PM
Good luck yall! Stay safe
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JessicaM
Bruh the rupauls christmas show?? Im planning on GOING to that 😭😭 driving down from florence for a few days. I hate homophobia
You can still go! I’m sure the show will still be fun
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Watson Brown 12/19/2022 10:26 PM
If anyone is free and can travel on Thursday night, the show is facing some opposition in Knoxville too and could use what support we can get.
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Yo there’s a drag show on gay street that’s awesome
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I really wish I could travel
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Matt Cox he/him 12/20/2022 9:20 AM
I’m still debating N Charleston. Leaning towards going. If anyone in the Columbia area wants to carpool I can drive, coming home same day
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 12/20/2022 10:36 AM
i can carpool! i live on peninsula
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pinky they/she 12/20/2022 11:39 AM
Wish I could go, I'll be in Charlotte
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Rubin (he/him) 12/20/2022 12:20 PM
We want YOU to show up for LGBTQ+ liberation this Friday, 7 pm, outside the North Charleston Performing Arts Center. Right-wing groups will be out harassing people in front of a drag show, and we need them to know they're outnumbered.
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People who reached out to the venue didn’t get any sort of response, it’s a city of North Charleston property so the official event security is ncpd. That’s not gonna discourage fascists (cops and klan go hand in hand etc) and so we’re still gonna show up and show out and be on public sidewalks. Take up space before the fascists can,
Rubin (he/him) 12/20/2022 12:22 PM
NCPD is particular bad and there are no local ordinances around protests or rallies so even if the city was in opposition, they can't/won't do much to stop it
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 12/20/2022 4:36 PM
oh! does that mean the 12 person max rule from the city of charleston doesn't apply?
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That rule only applies in city of Charleston
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NCPD are notorious pricks though, so don’t be surprised if they come up with creative interpretations of what constitutes blocking a sidewalk. Shouldn’t be an issue as long as there are good comms with whatever SGT or LT they send that way. (edited)
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Rubin (he/him) 12/20/2022 8:38 PM
Reposting some info from CHS-DSA comms One of the organizers of the anti-drag protest is Trish Lazarin, who seems to have been involved in anti-mask protests in the last few years. https://www.live5news.com/2021/08/22/latest-mask-mandate-protest-lowcountry-draws-nearly-three-dozen-people/
Protesters rallied on the bridge over Shem Creek in Mount Pleasant Saturday evening in the latest protest across the Lowcountry over mask and vaccine mandates.
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i also see a site with a photo credited to her re: trucker protests
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make sure your mask is on properly if you are anywhere near that plague rat, i'd say
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 9:02 PM
^^^
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ill bring a box of masks too
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seb it/they 12/20/2022 9:02 PM
And test!
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 9:02 PM
im trying to figure out
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is it most effective if i test before or after
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seb it/they 12/20/2022 9:03 PM
Before to protect people
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/20/2022 9:03 PM
i think it will have to be rapid since usc isnt offering it anymore
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seb it/they 12/20/2022 9:03 PM
And then after if you develop symptoms
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Hayden (he/they) 12/20/2022 9:21 PM
Brence was kind enough to share some poster materials, I will bring them on Friday and people can decorate them ahead of time if we find the time
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Hayden (he/they) 12/20/2022 9:59 PM
It's going to be as cold as this dude's house, dress warm with lots of layers and bring food
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recommend everyone to read, at least the section on setting rules of engagement
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obviously dont take it as gospel but there is good information here, especially for those who haven't participated in public demonstrations before
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 12/21/2022 11:18 AM
To anyone who's planning on showing up on friday, please plan to wear heavy winter clothes. Friday night's forecast calls for temperatures as low as 10-20℉
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Anyone else from Charlotte coming?
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/21/2022 2:22 PM
Hey folks - here's a chance to disrupt one of our major opponents (Moms for Liberty) on Jan 24... The description pretty much details what they are gonna do. They all play from the same book, so it should be pretty easy to predict and frustrate them. If they lobby, you can speak over them/interrupt them. Craftier people may figure out a way to disrupt their little brunch. My informing you of this does not constitute a coordinated action from any orgs I am affiliated with. https://www.eventbrite.com/e/moms-for-liberty-south-carolina-legislative-day-tickets-480403157777?utm-campaign=social&utm-content=attendeeshare&utm-medium=discovery&utm-term=listing&utm-source=cp&aff=escb&fbclid=IwAR3FH6x0y4DmeQhYgW05Jp5vDTUtE4aQ2jq1N1XTmV25Oz5c45jLutgVik4
Join Moms For Liberty South Carolina in Columbia, SC. We will learn about our government and have a day filled with fun and fellowship
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/21/2022 2:24 PM
okay
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if we're going to do this the thign we need to find is the info for that house session
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we cant really barge into a restaurant so we need to show up after that, preferably to the same house meeting they do
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looks like its not posted yet
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/21/2022 2:29 PM
The house session will just be the general session. Anyone can enter the state house and summon legislators to the lobby to talk to them. You cannot, however, protest from the house or senate gallery/balcony (in the chambers themselves) with signs and whatnot.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
we cant really barge into a restaurant so we need to show up after that, preferably to the same house meeting they do
I mean you can....
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/21/2022 2:29 PM
protesting inside seawells sounds like a great way to get the cops called on us (edited)
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disrupting the capitalists
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i want to of course, i just dont think its going to end well
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honestly less likely to get arrested than interfering with a house session
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/21/2022 2:32 PM
who wants a bag
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Lynnie (she/her) 12/21/2022 2:36 PM
There can be more creative forms of protest than just shouting at people, too. Nothing ruins a brunch quite like a patron nearby barfing. "Oh my god a rat!" etc etc
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Someone in the lobby dressed as Jesus with a sign that says "I never said anything about trans people"
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/21/2022 2:42 PM
historically accurate arabic jesus with a trans flag for a robe
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seb it/they 12/21/2022 2:42 PM
Lol all my ideas would get me arrested
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George (He/They) 12/21/2022 2:44 PM
Taking the Walter Masterson route would be absolutely hilarious
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seb it/they 12/21/2022 2:45 PM
What does that mean lol
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George (He/They) 12/21/2022 3:21 PM
He does a little trolling
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/21/2022 3:26 PM
slaughtering a goat in the party room at seawells
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Awww the poor baby ;-; The goat didn’t do anything wrong 😭
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Blizzard501 12/21/2022 5:16 PM
To those attending the counter protest on the 23rd in North Charleston, be safe and be vigilant. To those organizing groups remember to stick together and have an exit plan in case one is needed.
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Hayden (he/they) 12/21/2022 5:19 PM
I've heard from people on the ground that "no concealable weapons" signs have been posted already
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Lynnie (she/her)
There can be more creative forms of protest than just shouting at people, too. Nothing ruins a brunch quite like a patron nearby barfing. "Oh my god a rat!" etc etc
Ariella (she/her) 12/21/2022 6:39 PM
I think just a sit-in would be enough. Just go in your most flamboyantly queer outfits within their line of sight, and then just mind your own business. It'll at the least make them uncomfy, if not rile them up which might get them in some kind of trouble.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/21/2022 6:39 PM
Oooo
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I do like the idea
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Any excuse to wear a skirt in public
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seb it/they 12/21/2022 6:40 PM
Time to whip out the homosexual crop tops yall
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/21/2022 6:40 PM
Oh yes : )
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i have my shirt that says fggt
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/21/2022 6:40 PM
Im going to put 50 estrogen patches all over my body
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lol, while crop tops sound awesome it is going to be very cold.
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robin (they/it) 12/21/2022 8:12 PM
hoes dont get cold
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lol, while crop tops sound awesome it is going to be very cold.
seb it/they 12/21/2022 8:14 PM
This was for a future protest
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That's indoors lol
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Ah gotcha
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Matt Cox he/him 12/21/2022 9:09 PM
All this talk of crops and hoes reminds me to prep my garden patch.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/21/2022 10:03 PM
best fucking argument ive seen against all this bullshit in a while
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funny person in dress makes my religion upset
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They made it something that makes them upset
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Making this concession is not a good thing
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no it's really not
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"say no to the homosexual plan to normalize the transsexual and homosexual agenda." 
i should just start referring to everything i do as "my homosexual plan"
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I especially dislike the justification with the pornography law, that feels really dangerous (edited)
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WhichWitch17 12/21/2022 10:06 PM
I feel like these people have a very hard time differing “queerness” and “sex”.
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Either that or they just don’t want to realize there’s a difference.
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Who knows
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Either way I agree this could get super dangerous with the way it’s worded
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Either that or they just don’t want to realize there’s a difference.
I also feel they want them to be intertwined
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WhichWitch17 12/21/2022 10:07 PM
That could also be the case.
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It gives more “legitimacy” to their claim that it’s just to groom kids
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Hayden (he/they) 12/21/2022 10:11 PM
Keep in mind the decision to restrict sub-18 is just for that venue, the one in charleston just says over 18 encouraged
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/21/2022 10:11 PM
my bet says that changes to match the missouri one by friday
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Hayden (he/they) 12/21/2022 10:14 PM
I doubt it, the missouri one was based on a local ordinance, which locals cited. I dont believe such an ordinance exists in north Charleston, but if there is we will probably hear about it
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WhichWitch17 12/21/2022 10:14 PM
Yep. Which could lead to “see it is inappropriate for kids” if this kind of folding to what they want continues
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George (He/They) 12/21/2022 10:36 PM
God I fucking hate moral panic
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i can't blame them for making this concession for their immediate safety... but it's respectability politics, and that will not end well in the long term.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/21/2022 10:40 PM
i just hate it all
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i've just been in a steady heightened state of panic since club q...
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I'm here if anyone needs emotional support or anything
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Dms are (theoretically) open
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^^^ same here - if i could be in chs protesting i would
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/21/2022 10:45 PM
im ok now
22:45
calmed down
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Logan (he/him) 12/21/2022 10:45 PM
My DMs are open as well for anyone who needs
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George (He/They) 12/21/2022 10:46 PM
I don’t know if my family’s doing anything tomorrow so I’m not sure whether I should go to Charleston
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WhichWitch17 12/21/2022 10:46 PM
I know I can’t. But I wish that I could.
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I want to be there to fight this shit.
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George (He/They)
I don’t know if my family’s doing anything tomorrow so I’m not sure whether I should go to Charleston
If you want to go to chs, go with a friend
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Jonah (SC CPUSA) 12/22/2022 8:25 AM
No one should be going to the counter-protest alone
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
my bet says that changes to match the missouri one by friday
Watson Brown 12/22/2022 8:36 AM
Changing to 18+ was pushed for in Knoxville for tonight's show but the furthest the promoter would go is changing it to "parental guidance suggested".
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Is there a signal chat for in person actions?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/22/2022 10:47 AM
yes
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Hayden (he/they) 12/22/2022 8:13 PM
For those going tomorrow, a good lawyer to contact is DSA comrade named Joshua who is a lawyer in town. He says he has a friend in Mt. Pleasant that works these kinds of cases. His number is 304-634-9125. He recommends writing this down on a piece of paper with the word "lawyer" on it
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Hayden (he/they)
For those going tomorrow, a good lawyer to contact is DSA comrade named Joshua who is a lawyer in town. He says he has a friend in Mt. Pleasant that works these kinds of cases. His number is 304-634-9125. He recommends writing this down on a piece of paper with the word "lawyer" on it
Or on your body. Can’t lose that (hopefully).
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Hayden (he/they) 12/22/2022 8:16 PM
My favorite strat is on the tummy in sharpie, upsidedown so you can read it
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/22/2022 8:17 PM
mine too
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Logan (he/him) 12/23/2022 2:11 AM
react if you're driving and willing to carpool
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I'll be leaving Gaston around 1800 if someone needs to be picked up on the way
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Matt Cox he/him 12/23/2022 9:20 AM
Coming from Columbia, going to try my damnedest to be out by 3:30
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Any rideless folk this-a-way can hitch.
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Hayden (he/they) 12/23/2022 9:28 AM
I'll be leaving town by 5:30 with a ton of shit, if someone absolutely needs a ride I might could squeeze you in
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I don't get off until 5 leaving from sumter around 5:20
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Matt Cox he/him 12/23/2022 10:08 AM
There’s a signal thread asking if we have some kind of press release for this event
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Hayden (he/they) 12/23/2022 10:09 AM
Work is going to be slow, I can commit some copy today
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Matt Cox he/him 12/23/2022 10:12 AM
Honestly I feel like I did before one of my competition fights and something productive to do will keep me from spiraling
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Got the jitters
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Cyprus
Got the jitters
Matt Cox he/him 12/23/2022 10:36 AM
Such jitter. Very bug.
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Hayden (he/they) 12/23/2022 10:38 AM
Access Google Docs with a personal Google account or Google Workspace account (for business use).
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I started a doc for a press release, I can contribute sporadically today
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Matt Cox he/him 12/23/2022 10:40 AM
Anybody know what should be put out?
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Hayden (he/they) 12/23/2022 10:41 AM
I can't really format on mobile unfortunately
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Matt Cox he/him 12/23/2022 10:41 AM
We can worry about format when we have something said
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Hayden (he/they) 12/23/2022 11:02 AM
I put a good down payment on there, anyone is welcome to shape it up a bit
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/23/2022 11:12 AM
did a little editing
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some others are editing too
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i think the content looks good. when we're satisfied with the formatting we can send it on
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Matt Cox he/him 12/23/2022 11:47 AM
Does anyone know how to get in touch with IGD?
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Shouldn’t be hard
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I could just DM them on Mastodon but I don't know if that's their preferred means of contact
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Matt Cox he/him 12/23/2022 11:50 AM
I am totally on board with that release as it stands. I swear look away and you guys get it done. I’m testing that by looking away from my dishes…….crap.
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Matt Cox he/him
I am totally on board with that release as it stands. I swear look away and you guys get it done. I’m testing that by looking away from my dishes…….crap.
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/23/2022 11:59 AM
Yeah im real busy but if we could get this on the website and socials that would be great
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Watson Brown 12/23/2022 12:00 PM
Knoxville went with little drama. Mostly church people who cleared out about 8:30, and the 6 or 7 PBs that were there largely went with them. TN Action Club looked like they might be planning something at times, but ultimately skulked off around 9:30, before the intermission smoke break. Was nice not having to actively defend drag queens out on the sidewalk.
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Hayden (he/they) 12/23/2022 12:06 PM
There were no reports of violence or arrests as both sides came armed with guns in San Antonio.
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Oh my bad, I thought I put "in Texas" in their somewhere
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Wind brain
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Hayden (he/they) 12/23/2022 12:23 PM
That's a good thing to share with any journalists that ask, as well as on social with journo tags
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jo (he/she/they) 12/23/2022 12:25 PM
I am leaving from the Ravenel area around 4:40 if anyone needs a ride to the protest
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Moss (he/him) 12/23/2022 1:00 PM
Me and my friends are gonna park at tanger near nike/banana republic and walk over at 5pm if anyone wants to join our flock 🦢
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To avoid parking fees cuz i think the parking lot charges if i remember correctly. Also closer parking lots DO tow coliseum goers and are strict about it, so look for tow signs.
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And lastly, what part of the coliseum will we all meet at? I’m sure i’ll see it but just in case i’m late
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Logan (he/him) 12/23/2022 1:04 PM
also how long are we plannin on being there lol
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/23/2022 1:05 PM
As long as the fascists are out/the last show ends
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Moss (he/him)
And lastly, what part of the coliseum will we all meet at? I’m sure i’ll see it but just in case i’m late
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/23/2022 1:07 PM
We are meeting at the sidewalk outside PTL Tony Wy boulevard, starting at 5:30pm (edited)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) pinned a message to this channel. 12/23/2022 1:08 PM
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/23/2022 1:08 PM
Its ok if you get there late but thats were we’ll be
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@AthenaTheCommie (she/they) add this to the linktree please
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/23/2022 1:34 PM
I am on my phone in my therapists parking lot
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The bit warden has the linktree login info
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Jonah (SC CPUSA) 12/23/2022 3:28 PM
Bundle up, temperature is dropping quickly
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Hayden (he/they) 12/23/2022 3:34 PM
Hypothermia (abnormally low body temperature) and frostbite are both dangerous conditions that can happen when a person is exposed to extremely cold temperatures. Stay safe this winter by learning more about hypothermia and frostbite, including who is most at risk, signs and symptoms, and what to do if someone develops hypothermia or frostbite. ...
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A handy guide
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Jonah (SC CPUSA) 12/23/2022 4:11 PM
My burner phone will not charge. Which sucks, but it is what it is. Is it a good idea to park at the venue, or should we park nearby?
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Hayden (he/they) 12/23/2022 4:12 PM
I've heard places right by the venue may be strict about towing, and that they may charge you to park at the venue. I'd say keep ears up until you get there if possible
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Parking is going to be difficult.
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Jonah (SC CPUSA) 12/23/2022 4:13 PM
I'm at a Starbucks nearby, (no point going home for two hours), they have signage about no "venue parking"
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The venue will charge and other places around it will be towing most likely.
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Jonah (SC CPUSA) 12/23/2022 4:13 PM
Will anyone need money to park at the venue?
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Hayden (he/they) 12/23/2022 4:14 PM
Big shopping center just north if you can stand the walk (edited)
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Jonah (SC CPUSA) 12/23/2022 4:14 PM
Tanger outlets, yeah. It's not the worst walk
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We are meeting on the south side
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Tanger outlets close at 9pm, if im going to the show especially is there any worry I’ll get towed?
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Cringiest shit I've ever seen, Tyler Bessinger
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Corey Allen pulled up lmao
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Read another book
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Caboose
Cringiest shit I've ever seen, Tyler Bessinger
George (He/They) 12/23/2022 6:15 PM
Log Cabin Republican moment
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Oh wait, that's elder wand from like Harry Potter, didn't understand it at first
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Eww
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I can detect a liberal from 300 miles away. I know their tells.
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George (He/They) 12/23/2022 7:30 PM
How’s the counter-protest going?
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i just got back from work
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Caboose
Cringiest shit I've ever seen, Tyler Bessinger
pinky they/she 12/23/2022 7:40 PM
Holyshittt
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whats going on AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Jonah (SC CPUSA) 12/23/2022 8:28 PM
All protestors left
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Caboose and I are hanging back a bit to see if they return
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WOOOOO
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Jonah (SC CPUSA) 12/23/2022 8:29 PM
No real confrontation,just a lot of yelling.
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did they even stay for very long?
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i just hope you guys are safe and were able to stay warm !!
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seb it/they 12/23/2022 8:29 PM
What were the numbers like
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Jonah (SC CPUSA) 12/23/2022 8:29 PM
They were probably out here an hour and a half.
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They had 18-20, we had ~50
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Event goers we're happy to see us
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 12/23/2022 8:30 PM
things went really well y’all!
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seb it/they 12/23/2022 8:30 PM
I'm so thankful to everyone who went, and everyone who helped organize this action
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Jonah (SC CPUSA) 12/23/2022 8:31 PM
Overwhelming success in my books
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 12/23/2022 8:31 PM
we could not have done this without y’all! thanks to everyone who showed up!
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LETS GO
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i wish i was there damn
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Brence Walters 12/23/2022 8:34 PM
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If anyone shows back up, I'll be here
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WhichWitch17 12/23/2022 8:49 PM
Glad y’all were safe and that things went well! Wish I could be there with you.
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This was an absolute win.
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great job yall
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Rubin (he/him) 12/23/2022 8:56 PM
Great job everyone
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Matt Cox he/him 12/23/2022 8:58 PM
Today I learned when you are counterprotesting in winter, go ahead and have your face covering ready. A K 95 does not cut it in the cold.
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It was good to see everyone out there. I feel silly for how much I was worked up about coming, but I’m extremely glad we are all OK, they left first, we pushed into their space, we shouted them down, and when the time came, we kept cool heads and actually engaged with a couple of them.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/23/2022 9:04 PM
I think tonight was an excellent success
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Max (they/it) 12/23/2022 9:13 PM
indeed
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Matt Cox he/him 12/23/2022 9:14 PM
It would be irresponsible of me to open a flask of bourbon, while I’m on the highway alone, but if I was, I would be toasting all of you
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Nico (she/her) 12/23/2022 9:22 PM
Glad it went well, sorry I couldn't be there, all yall are awesome
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seb it/they 12/23/2022 9:25 PM
yeah i want to start working on writing social media stuff about the event
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Today I learned when you are counterprotesting in winter, go ahead and have your face covering ready. A K 95 does not cut it in the cold.
Jonah (SC CPUSA) 12/23/2022 9:49 PM
The cloth mask did ok at keeping my face warm, but for the love of whatever deity you believe in wear gloves.
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Jonah Glover 12/23/2022 9:51 PM
My last name seconds the other Jonah
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Logan (he/him) 12/23/2022 10:26 PM
Home safe
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Great job yall
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Thanks everyone who stood out in the freezing cold. It means a lot, the transphobes group was a lot smaller than us ♥️ (i was with someone who didn’t wanna go to the protest :/) (edited)
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Just left, fash did not come back lol
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#charlestonsc #dragshow #dragshowdefense #communitydefense #antifa #leftist #lgbtq #politics #anarchist #humanrights
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Jonah (SC CPUSA) 12/23/2022 10:44 PM
Good to hear comrade. I'm off to sleep then!
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Thanks for waiting up on me, now to drive to cola lol (edited)
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Jonah (SC CPUSA) 12/23/2022 10:46 PM
Dive safe!
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have a good night all ^-^
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Hayden (he/they) 12/23/2022 11:34 PM
I'm back safe with a good fire going in the fireplace
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Watson Brown 12/24/2022 1:14 AM
Charlotte crew made it home safely. I'm only still awake so that I can enjoy a beer before bed. Busy couple of days!
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Just made it home (took a nap on an on ramp)
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Dive safe!
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Pls put a spoiler on that lol
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Ouch
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@erik☭ you were taking pics last night right? I think you said you were going to post them to insta, but I didn't get your account name. Do you mind sharing?
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@erik☭ you were taking pics last night right? I think you said you were going to post them to insta, but I didn't get your account name. Do you mind sharing?
must have the wrong erik, I was not there peepoLove
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Gotcha, thank you ☺
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seb it/they 12/24/2022 1:48 PM
Or any other identifying information
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Tattoos / birthmarks feelsheart
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seb it/they 12/24/2022 2:02 PM
Even funky hair colors
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I think it's important to share successful actions
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Gonna be real, kinda just wanted to get the picture of me with my flag that they took 👀
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/24/2022 2:18 PM
@Caboose had some video
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yeah
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pinky they/she 12/24/2022 2:33 PM
:/
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If you showed up in bloc don’t tell people you were there in bloc
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solvent (they/she) 12/24/2022 2:54 PM
not that it was a particularly dramatic action or anything
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If you showed up in bloc don’t tell people you were there in bloc
solvent (they/she) 12/24/2022 2:54 PM
oh good point lmao
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Especially over discord
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This was a sign that some counterprotestor had last night
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Moss (he/him) 12/24/2022 4:51 PM
This would have only bettered me as a child
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/24/2022 4:52 PM
my favorite sign is the one specifically mad at drag queen story times (edited)
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also known as THE MOST KID FRIENDLY FORM OF DRAG ON THE PLANET its reading picture books in a dress ffs
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solvent (they/she) 12/24/2022 4:53 PM
u see
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dress = sex
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therefore bad
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It’s against god or something
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WhichWitch17 12/24/2022 4:56 PM
But it’ll corrupt the children! We have to keep them pure. /s
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robin (they/it) 12/24/2022 4:57 PM
when i was a child my mom made me watch shows that other parents deemed queer and bad for children. like teletubbies. and here i am queer. so i think watching those shows does make you gay.
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WhichWitch17 12/24/2022 4:59 PM
I mean my dad introduced me to Steven universe when I was like. 10. And that’s a very gay show. Maybe you’re onto something
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solvent (they/she) 12/24/2022 4:59 PM
i wore pink once as a kid and now look where im at 😔
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WhichWitch17 12/24/2022 5:00 PM
The worst sin there is
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No wonder
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I mean my dad introduced me to Steven universe when I was like. 10. And that’s a very gay show. Maybe you’re onto something
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/24/2022 5:01 PM
i was literally about to say im rewatching it over break
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steven universe was like my first time seeing queer or neurodiverse anythng in media
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WhichWitch17 12/24/2022 5:02 PM
Me too! It was amazing honestly. It’s crazy how happy it makes you. At least it did for me
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/24/2022 5:02 PM
as a kid i think i lacked the vocabulary of concepts to fully appreciate it
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but a few years later i think i got it
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WhichWitch17 12/24/2022 5:03 PM
That’s fair. It took me too long to realize “oh that’s two girls in a relationship-“ and then the happiness ensued.
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Mom never liked the show after that but dad and I still watched it together.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 12/24/2022 5:04 PM
i really vibed with the stevonnie fusion thing as a kid
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wow steven is a girl now, how weird and wild (edited)
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WhichWitch17 12/24/2022 5:05 PM
Love the genderbending. 10/10.
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solvent (they/she) 12/24/2022 5:05 PM
wish i had that as a kid, my house was strict no TV :/
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WhichWitch17 12/24/2022 5:05 PM
Aw that sucks.
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I blame the Lady Gaga Bad Romance music video for my gender
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I seek to embody walk walk fashion baby in my everyday life
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solvent (they/she) 12/24/2022 5:07 PM
gaga is very gender
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meat dress is my gender lol
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my favorite sign is the one specifically mad at drag queen story times (edited)
Matt Cox he/him 12/24/2022 5:11 PM
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WhichWitch17 12/24/2022 5:12 PM
That’s incredible.
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It was a public facing action with media presence. The majority of people there had pictures or recordings. Always assume that your actions online and offline are being recorded and archived, cover as desired.
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If I need to take it down and change it, I will
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It is important to share successful actions. It was a peaceful action with 0 incidents. Everyone was covered in winter clothing anyways. Randoms and reporters were also taking vids and pics, the cops were in our faces with body cams, the fash were doing the same thing with body cam footage and their phones. The guests for the show were also doing the same.
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If someone was shown in that footage that would prefer not to be shown, dm me for my signal number and we'll discuss necessary edits
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Reviewing the footage I posted, the only identifying markers that were distinguishable were fash, my camera angles were mostly down, the majority of us were masked, hatted, covered, or blurred by being out of focus. Check the footage if you like, this isn't my first rodeo
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ronnie (he/him) 12/25/2022 12:43 AM
We were wanting to use a bit of the footage in a video I'm throwing together for OAT, I'd like to say if anyone is featured in Caboose's video who doesn't want to be shown please shoot me a dm. Don't want to step on anyone's toes.
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The simple fix would just be to blur faces
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ronnie (he/him) 12/25/2022 12:45 AM
tru tru tru
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ronnie (he/him)
We were wanting to use a bit of the footage in a video I'm throwing together for OAT, I'd like to say if anyone is featured in Caboose's video who doesn't want to be shown please shoot me a dm. Don't want to step on anyone's toes.
I'll dm you the clips and pics on so you don't have to screw with the tiktok banner
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ronnie (he/him) 12/25/2022 12:45 AM
omg thank you!
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It's not a lot and all of my pics are of fash, but if it's useful 🤷‍♂️
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ronnie (he/him) 12/25/2022 12:49 AM
the joyful crowd at the end when the fash left was really nice
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ronnie (he/him)
the joyful crowd at the end when the fash left was really nice
I got my phone out late for that, someone else may have a better clip of the guy with the eyepatch approaching us to say something then getting drowned out with chants then leaving as a group
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I was kinda more focused on rushing to the front to react to that guy rather than record 🤣
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ronnie (he/him) 12/25/2022 12:52 AM
fair!!
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🧵On December 23rd, our community mobilized to ensure that attendees of the Drag Queen Christmas Show in North Charleston were able to have fun and enjoy themselves. Despite the cold, we outnumbered and contained the fascists. They ended up leaving around the time the event...
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I got my phone out late for that, someone else may have a better clip of the guy with the eyepatch approaching us to say something then getting drowned out with chants then leaving as a group
Hayden (he/they) 12/25/2022 11:08 AM
Orson Welles had to go sell some wine
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Joshua (He/Him) 12/27/2022 6:04 PM
Glad to hear everyone was safe and the event was held. I am glad our Allies were able to safley attend their Christmas Drag Show despite The Fascists being haters.
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Watson Brown 12/27/2022 10:38 PM
Looks like there's still happenings at the stops in FL. (edited)
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George (He/They) 12/27/2022 10:53 PM
I’m going to Jacksonville with the Carolina Band tomorrow for the Gator Bowl (edited)
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Nice. I was gonna say I'd go down to FL, but im quarantining. My partners family tested positive for covid... while we were over there Sunday 🙃 Maybe reach out to the FNB there. What city is the show in?
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Watson Brown 12/27/2022 11:22 PM
Last two stops are Orlando tomorrow and Clearwater the following night.
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Last two stops are Orlando tomorrow and Clearwater the following night.
Can you give me a link to the events? They kinda do daily drag show events in Orlando so it might not stand out as much, at the same time, it's only been a few years since orlando...
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Drag Queen Christmas 2022 LIVE. Shady Roast Tour UK Spring 2023 - Buy Online Now! MP Present Productions
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Watson Brown 12/27/2022 11:54 PM
I don't have any more than you do, as it's a little out of our realm of influence. Miami Antifascists had posted regarding Ft. Lauderdale and Miami, but I haven't seen anything regarding protest at the last two stops. (edited)
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10/4, I have a few connects with food not bombs down there and some in North Florida that might be able to pass the word along
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Watson Brown 12/27/2022 11:59 PM
All ages drag show featuring men dressed as women and wearing g-strings performing sexual acts on stage. We will protest this event outside the venue. No violence. No intimidation. No unprovoked...
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Looks like Orlando antifa last posted in '19.
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Watson Brown 12/28/2022 12:10 AM
❤️Orlando❤️ A call has been put out for a showing of solidarity on the sidewalk in front of the Plaza Live the evening of the 28th during this event! Bring your flags and signs! 🏳️‍🌈🏴
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Nice, I had reached out to the dsa just now
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Watson Brown 12/28/2022 12:40 AM
It doesn't look as though they're expecting much. That facebook thing has hardly any traction at all.
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So many of the queens performing had family show up to the Charleston show. Like, most of them it feels like. It’s so sad to me that these protesters had to be there and i guess take away from that. Or try to.
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Fuck that
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He just wants to go to a drag show, idk why they make such a big deal about it
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Matt Cox he/him 12/28/2022 9:36 PM
The Black Podcast with Wine Cellar Media has a number of catchphrases, among them, “white folks loooove investigating shit.”
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Watson Brown 12/28/2022 11:37 PM
What's funny about this is that the livestreamer who instigated the investigation had bought and paid for a ticket to the Ft. Lauderdale show and then stood up, made a scene, and got thrown out before he could actually document that there were in fact any kids there.
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After noticing MULTIPLE children in the audience at the explicit Drag Queen Christmas in Ft Lauderdale I called out performer Nina West for inviting and allowing children to come to her sexually explicit shows!
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Didn’t Chris Nelson assault a counterprotester literally yesterday
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Watson Brown 12/28/2022 11:44 PM
Ayup
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What human garbage. Thanks for sharing, i hadn’t even heard ab that
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Joshua (He/Him) 12/29/2022 10:01 AM
A prominent donor and ally of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis was found dead in a parking lot in North Florida last week. Jacksonville defense contractor...
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DeSantis was so close to this guy that they use to coe-own a condo together that Ron lived in.
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Matt Cox he/him 12/29/2022 10:03 AM
No love for a Clinton, but if they had been close to HRC there’d already be lurid tales of how she was cleaning house
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What if desantis doesn’t run for president because he’s fashioning Florida into his own personal kingdom
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Matt Cox he/him 12/29/2022 10:20 AM
Fash-ioning
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Holy shit I missed the world 'ally' when I read that, and damn near whooped for joy. Now I'm disappointed
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Didn’t Chris Nelson assault a counterprotester literally yesterday
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Watson Brown 12/30/2022 1:32 PM
I'm going to share this here as important reading for anyone involved in direct action, whether OTG or not. https://crimethinc.com/2004/11/01/what-is-security-culture
A security culture is a set of customs shared by a community whose members may be targeted by the government, designed to minimize risk. Having a security culture in place saves everyone the troubl...
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This is a bit dated
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The advice in it isn’t bad per se but it’s from 2004
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Max (they/it) 12/30/2022 2:31 PM
pre smartphones and social media is a pretty big threshold
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Watson Brown 12/30/2022 3:14 PM
Lolwut? There's nothing in there that isn't still valid. It's about thinking in a secure way, not about specific methods. I think that there are many people who haven't been exposed to that kind of thing, and it's very important if you're going to be involved in direct action.
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I shared it here as a starting point, not the end point on the subject.
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Don’t throw any direct action ideas around in public that you think you might want to try at some point.
This is an important one to keep in mind in this space. This is still a very public space, we should be aware of that
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Heads up
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There’s going to be a fairly large pro life rally and march next Saturday
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As it’s (probably, I haven’t checked) a permitted event
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We have a legal right to counterprotest them
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As we’re against misogyny as well as queer phobia and transphobia, and as our liberation is tied to the liberation of others, I’d dare say we have an obligation to stand up for abortion rights
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So there’s two different marches from what it looks like
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In both downtown Columbia and on the UofSC campus
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The times overlap
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 1:36 PM
No, it seems like people from the summit are gathering with this other one
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are there any clinics near that area that they may be targeting, or is this primarily something like a fundraiser event?
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seb it/they 01/01/2023 1:38 PM
it seems to be primarily a march
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 1:47 PM
there are no dedicated clinics downtown
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i imagine they're just marching to march
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They could be rallying at the statehouse
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seb it/they 01/01/2023 1:54 PM
can we check teh permits
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 1:54 PM
where do we do that
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seb it/they 01/01/2023 1:55 PM
idk i'm looking on the statehouse website
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someone here has done it before i'm sure
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I think you have to check with the city
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You can straight up ask the local PD.
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If they’re meeting at the state house and in the grounds then they’d have to submit a form with the department of administration as far as I remember
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 2:05 PM
The statehouse maintains an events list, I can't look for a minute
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the DoA is responsible for all state facilities, which includes the state house and its grounds. Here's the form for it if you ever need it, to see the actual document they submitted you just need to file a FOIA request if I'm reading the form right https://www.admin.sc.gov/sites/default/files/facilities_manage/State%20House%20Event%20Information%20form.pdf
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 4:43 PM
Join Moms For Liberty South Carolina in Columbia, SC. We will learn about our government and have a day filled with fun and fellowship
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A little off topic, but this event brite has their whole schedule with locations
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seb it/they 01/01/2023 4:43 PM
time to make a reservation...
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 4:44 PM
Yeah they posted the brunch spot lol
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So there’s two different marches from what it looks like
Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 4:46 PM
So I checked the posters and you are right.... Theres one at 9am and the summit one is at 11
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Im guessing its for the start of the legislative session?
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Help South Carolina Citizens for Life spread the word about Proudly Pro-Life Dinner 2023!
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They are having a dinner at the same place the moms are going to lmao
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Where was the owner on January 6
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Now I am highly confused
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So this is from the SC Citizens for life page, which supposedly is putting on the march, rally and weekend of action
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Its a completely different time and place that the one gvl shared
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 4:52 PM
wait thats a THIRD march time
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these people are either playing 5d chess or are completely incapable of planning
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 4:52 PM
Well the summit had "line up for march" at 11, so I guess they are just going to be early
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 4:53 PM
at least we know they are going to the state house
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 4:53 PM
This confirmed route is going from russell to the state house, lots of public sidewalks they are going to use
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public sidewalk means counters can go with
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fyi for anyone that hasn't countered at the statehouse before, they like to separate counters from the permit holders
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This is the brunch/dinner spot, its the dumpy banquet hall next to J's corner on Rosewood
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They could either walk on the sidewalks up sumter or walk through the horseshoe
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They will have to cross pendleton though
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Does the one in Greenville have a fee or is it really just a google form signup?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 4:56 PM
none of them are in greenville
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its fucked
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 4:57 PM
This one also doesnt have a fee necessarily, they are just pushing their little events
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 4:57 PM
one of the columbia oens is just planned by people from greenville
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Hayden (he/they)
Now I am highly confused
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 4:58 PM
where did this info come from
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i want to collect all the links and put them in 1 message
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This site
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Also I typed in all the characters for that google form on the poster and came up with nothing
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This site implies it will be a symposium-style event with vendors and tables
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Like a career fair for dickheads
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 5:01 PM
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) pinned a message to this channel. 01/01/2023 5:01 PM
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Also I typed in all the characters for that google form on the poster and came up with nothing
These people are not very good at organizing events.
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unsuprisingly
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 5:03 PM
Its important to note that event 2 and 3 are pretty much the same people, 2 is a total mystery
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none of them are in greenville
I'm pretty sure what happened is ik at one point they were also planning one in gville, and I think they just reused the graphic but didn't notice they left greenville in it
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We may have a shot to disrupt these if they’re this poorly organized
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 5:04 PM
2 almost seems like a fake post given that the form is a dud and nobody else is talking about it
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it's not, they've been posting it for months. I first heard about these events in like october I just wanted to see where they wound up before we planned a response
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 5:07 PM
Just unreal incompetence lol
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This is their day of action I think
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Gonna be a long day for all of us, pack water. If you’re coming from out of town start planning now, we’ll come up with one or multiple meeting points
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 5:08 PM
This is SCCL's facebook, it has very poor interaction, especially for a boomer topic
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Gonna be a long day for all of us, pack water. If you’re coming from out of town start planning now, we’ll come up with one or multiple meeting points
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 5:08 PM
primary definitely needs to be russell
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that seems like where shits going down the most
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seb it/they 01/01/2023 5:09 PM
do yall want to make an annoucment about this?
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and an event?
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What if we primarily had student groups around Russell
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 5:09 PM
ill make an event
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 5:09 PM
People may not be back yet
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seb it/they 01/01/2023 5:10 PM
i can write an annoucement and @/everyone so we can get people, but i think we should wait until we have a bit more of a concrete idea of plans
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Like @Carolina Socialists (USC) and @IRIS (USC) members being the core of the on campus resistance if people are back
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We know the ground better than the marchers do
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 5:10 PM
event is made
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we are also significantly better organized
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especially considering how much more is at stake for us
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seb it/they 01/01/2023 5:11 PM
i wonder if @Columbia DSA is a good group to do statehouse grounds stuff
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If you can, get a set of their signup forms and fill them with convincing looking fake data. Once from your phone on mobile data, once on WiFi/a home computer if you can.
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 5:11 PM
They could be depending on what is in mind
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seb it/they 01/01/2023 5:11 PM
also @gamecock lutheran is on campus afaik
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Yeah if it’s gonna be a citywide resistance we need to have multiple groups coordinating for different parts of the city
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drhead
If you can, get a set of their signup forms and fill them with convincing looking fake data. Once from your phone on mobile data, once on WiFi/a home computer if you can.
seb it/they 01/01/2023 5:12 PM
the forms funnel straight to the payment portal
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All of them are paid?
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seb it/they 01/01/2023 5:12 PM
not much info unless someone wants to pay 10.50
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yep
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yep i looked as well
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seb it/they 01/01/2023 5:12 PM
actually we need someone whos willing to use their bankaccount if you're so inclined
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Cyprus
Yeah if it’s gonna be a citywide resistance we need to have multiple groups coordinating for different parts of the city
Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 5:12 PM
At the very least we should have people posted along sumter to see what the route is
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seb it/they 01/01/2023 5:12 PM
we can pay back whoever does it
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there's also @Industrial Workers of the World folks who could do statehouse stuff
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We are perfectly willing to reimburse
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seb it/they
i wonder if @Columbia DSA is a good group to do statehouse grounds stuff
people donig stuff on the statehouse should be briefed on how countering at the statehouse usually works. Statehouse police like to separate counters fairly aggressively, I've been threated with arrest before for it. They usually push you to a different part of the grounds out of sight, sometimes it's better to just post up on public sidewalk across the street. Even though the sidewalks out front are technically private property, they don't usually let you hang out there as a counter
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seb it/they 01/01/2023 5:14 PM
here's where having regional roles would be good actually
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Who could meet that morning group at the church coffee shop?
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what day ?
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seb it/they 01/01/2023 5:15 PM
jan 7
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Olivia
people donig stuff on the statehouse should be briefed on how countering at the statehouse usually works. Statehouse police like to separate counters fairly aggressively, I've been threated with arrest before for it. They usually push you to a different part of the grounds out of sight, sometimes it's better to just post up on public sidewalk across the street. Even though the sidewalks out front are technically private property, they don't usually let you hang out there as a counter
Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 5:15 PM
As far as I know those sidewalks out front are public sidewalks, the permits are usually for the north end of the statehouse which ends at the black posts near gervais
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i likely can
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 5:15 PM
Ive had cops tell me to leave and I'm like "this is a sidewalk" and they fucked off
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Hayden (he/they)
As far as I know those sidewalks out front are public sidewalks, the permits are usually for the north end of the statehouse which ends at the black posts near gervais
I've been threatened with arrest for trying to counter on that public sidewalk, so just a heads up
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This is to counter sc life protest??
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 5:16 PM
Yeah they threaten all kinds of things, which is why that knowledge and healthy numbers is useful
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Kiral
This is to counter sc life protest??
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 5:17 PM
theres 3 protests, they're pinned in this channel
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
theres 3 protests, they're pinned in this channel
Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 5:17 PM
Whats the third one? we got the coffee shop and the march to the statehouse from russell
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 5:17 PM
theres 2 orgs doing russel ones collaboratively
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 5:17 PM
Yeah, thats one event with two orgs
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 5:18 PM
k
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Yea I'm there. Will post about it in IWW discord too
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Victor (they/them) 01/01/2023 5:18 PM
What would be the plan for Russel? To just confront them as they leave the ballroom? We can make it into the hallway but they can just close the doors to the ballroom. I do know how to get in through the back entrances but idk if we'd get campus police called on us if we barged into a private event
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 5:19 PM
i figure we can make their life hell if we show up first
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Victor (they/them)
What would be the plan for Russel? To just confront them as they leave the ballroom? We can make it into the hallway but they can just close the doors to the ballroom. I do know how to get in through the back entrances but idk if we'd get campus police called on us if we barged into a private event
Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 5:19 PM
The ballroom is going to be hard, the best bet is to disrupt the march imo
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 5:19 PM
mill about in the hall, casually block entry
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fuck off if uscpd tell us to
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Victor (they/them) 01/01/2023 5:20 PM
I cant do statehouse because I cant stand for that long, etc. But I could sit outside Russel and point people in the wrong direction?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 5:21 PM
victor do you have a signal
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Victor (they/them) 01/01/2023 5:21 PM
Yea
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seb it/they 01/01/2023 5:21 PM
it would be really funny to set up pro abortion street preachers on their path
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taste of their own (very irritating) medicine
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Victor (they/them) 01/01/2023 5:21 PM
Lool
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 5:21 PM
Cite the bible verses where god kills babies
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 5:22 PM
gomorrah time
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Matt Cox he/him 01/01/2023 5:22 PM
Psalm 137:9, Happy is he who taketh thy little ones and dashers them against the stones
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 5:22 PM
idfk isnt that the place the christian god did a genocide
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seb it/they
it would be really funny to set up pro abortion street preachers on their path
I am a priest lmao can do :p
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
idfk isnt that the place the christian god did a genocide
Matt Cox he/him 01/01/2023 5:22 PM
Allegedly
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seb it/they 01/01/2023 5:22 PM
amazing
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Victor (they/them) 01/01/2023 5:23 PM
Can we get a speaker and just blast "get that fetus kill that fetus" on repeat
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seb it/they
actually we need someone whos willing to use their bankaccount if you're so inclined
What do you need?
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Matt Cox he/him 01/01/2023 5:24 PM
Jello Biafra and Mojo Nixon, Will the Fetus Be Aborted
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Bernie
What do you need?
seb it/they 01/01/2023 5:24 PM
can you please sign up for the thing using your account so we can get more information
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one second let me find the link
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Victor (they/them) 01/01/2023 5:26 PM
Where would they most likely be coming from? So we know where to station street preaching?
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@Bernie
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Just need the one ticket so I’ll get the info, right?
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Victor (they/them)
Where would they most likely be coming from? So we know where to station street preaching?
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 5:27 PM
the route is russel to state house
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Bernie
Just need the one ticket so I’ll get the info, right?
seb it/they 01/01/2023 5:28 PM
yes
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 5:28 PM
Most likely down sumter or maybe cutting through the horseshoe
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Gave pro-lifers money and all I got was this shitty ticket
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seb it/they 01/01/2023 5:33 PM
hm can you email the event coordinators for more information maybe
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 5:33 PM
Well now you can go in and see them all
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You betcha
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seb it/they 01/01/2023 5:33 PM
be like "hey i want to know if i should bring my kids with me or something"
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idk make something up let's see how much you can get
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 5:34 PM
Also ask when they think it will be over, that will clue us in for how long to expect to be there
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Worst case scenario, I can go to the first event and hopefully find out there at least a little in advance
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Victor (they/them) 01/01/2023 5:35 PM
And you can get breakfast
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seb it/they 01/01/2023 5:35 PM
maybe ask the route too?
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Going to serve mlm wine mom chic
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seb it/they 01/01/2023 5:35 PM
say you want to bring your grandparents
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and you need to know bc they're old or something like that idk
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 5:35 PM
Omg and chic fil a
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seb it/they
say you want to bring your grandparents
That was my plan, a grandmother with mobility issues
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Hayden (he/they)
Omg and chic fil a
Because of course they partnered with chick fil a
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 5:38 PM
I can put together a digital poster for countering the march and rally, do yall have suggestions for backgrounds/text
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How’s this look?
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I would just "where we are marching", proposed marching route sounds a bit formal and like you know too much about marches lol
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lol I was doing my best “emailing a professor” voice, I’ll edit
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Victor (they/them) 01/01/2023 5:46 PM
Yeah other than that looks perfect
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Okey doke, she’s submitted. We’ll see what happens
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 5:55 PM
The summit is planning lunch at russell for 1:15, so it seems the statehouse will not be planned for later than 1
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robin (they/it) 01/01/2023 6:04 PM
idk if anyone is planning to bombard the dinner on friday, but it starts at 5:30. i think i will still be at home then, but we shall see :(
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seb it/they 01/01/2023 6:05 PM
the dinner = the moms for liberty thing?
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Okay this is the response I got
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seb it/they 01/01/2023 6:06 PM
hmmm
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Bernie
Okay this is the response I got
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seb it/they
the dinner = the moms for liberty thing?
robin (they/it) 01/01/2023 6:07 PM
i thought the moms for liberty thing was later in the month? i might be wrong/confused
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robin (they/it)
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Dear god tickets to that are thousands of dollars 💀
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robin (they/it)
i thought the moms for liberty thing was later in the month? i might be wrong/confused
seb it/they 01/01/2023 6:08 PM
You're right I'm just silly
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There's a lot of events lol
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robin (they/it) 01/01/2023 6:09 PM
this dinner was in one of the links athena pinned
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it was a part of the "pro-life weekend" or whatever
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Bernie
Dear god tickets to that are thousands of dollars 💀
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 6:10 PM
lol these people are so fucking bad at their job
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you are unable to buy tickets in quantities less than 16
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thats why its so expensive
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The dinner is the same people, looks like some sort of fundraising auction event the day before
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I mean, good to know they’re incompetent and I wouldn’t want to give them that much money anyway
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 6:12 PM
lol bernie you have to buy all 29,000 dollars worth of tickets (i did the math)
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Yeah that's why I said earlier that this sounded like a fundraising event instead of the march being the main purpose. Still should disrupt it
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seb it/they 01/01/2023 6:13 PM
could we write a bot to spam their comment/contact page
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make shit unreadable
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 6:13 PM
which page?
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ive made bots before
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seb it/they 01/01/2023 6:13 PM
whatever bernie did
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On the page they have a thing where if you can’t get a ticket to attend, you can still check out some auction they’re having
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 6:13 PM
i think bernie only was able to do that cause they bought a ticket
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seb it/they
whatever bernie did
That was the other event’s page, but this one probably has a contact page too
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seb it/they 01/01/2023 6:14 PM
there's definately a contact page
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
i think bernie only was able to do that cause they bought a ticket
I think anyone can tbh, it was just a comment page One sec I’ll find it
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seb it/they 01/01/2023 6:14 PM
seems like a real person responded to bernie
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 6:14 PM
if you send it to me i will see what can be done
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seb it/they 01/01/2023 6:14 PM
First Annual South Carolina Student Life Summit. Educating and equipping the Post-Roe Generation!
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it's just "contact'
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 6:14 PM
the problem is that is a DOS and its illegal
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Yeah it’s just at the bottom of the page
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 6:14 PM
i dont want to be charged with cyber crimes
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If it’s illegal def don’t do it then
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seb it/they 01/01/2023 6:15 PM
lol just a thought
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robin (they/it)
idk if anyone is planning to bombard the dinner on friday, but it starts at 5:30. i think i will still be at home then, but we shall see :(
Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 6:15 PM
Yeah the dinner venue is at its own lot surrounded by a fence by a busy road. Pretty hard to do much with
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This is what I threw together just now
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Is the barber pole good or bad
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robin (they/it) 01/01/2023 6:21 PM
good, it is the equivalent of happiness in my brain
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 6:21 PM
Okay cool lol
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Hayden (he/they)
This is what I threw together just now
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 6:22 PM
decent but we want to be there at 9:30am not 11:30
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the event starts at 10am
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11 is when the march starts, 10 is some exhibition thing and people arriving
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But earlier is still probably better
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Ooh they have doughnuts and coffee. Hate the hate, love the snacks
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 6:26 PM
Yeah we can change to 11
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Bernie
Ooh they have doughnuts and coffee. Hate the hate, love the snacks
robin (they/it) 01/01/2023 6:27 PM
yoink all their snacks
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 6:27 PM
And I though 11 is when they line up with 11:30 being the start? Idk, and I'm not convinced they do either
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robin (they/it) 01/01/2023 6:28 PM
bernie you have access to the snacks cuz you have a ticket. maybe you are just so hungry you need 8 dozen donuts and 3 gallons of coffee.
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 6:29 PM
Flush all the coffee down the drain
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Oop second one didn’t change
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 6:34 PM
danggit
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should it change? it is correct as is, they are starting at 11:30
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 6:35 PM
Any other thoughts for clarity or anything before this next one
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Bernie
But earlier is still probably better
Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 6:35 PM
@drhead ^
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It’s something more people should probably give input on before putting out there though
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 6:36 PM
Yeah I can give it a minute
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Although I will be going camping the next two days, so I can drop the link to edit
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 6:36 PM
wait why are we meeting at the capitol
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dont we want it to be at russel?
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 6:36 PM
This is to funnel libs to the capitol to meet the rally
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 6:36 PM
okay
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 6:37 PM
We could also make one for russell but I think that should be left to more dedicated people and not necessarily be public
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If we have something to send to students to show up at Russell that would be good
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 6:53 PM
^^^^^^
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i think this is needed
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Hayden (he/they) 01/01/2023 6:54 PM
I can get on that in a minute
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Unless someone else would like to
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 6:58 PM
i am
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its a modified version of yours
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Could you add more info about why we’re there
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 7:08 PM
what should i add
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Bernie
How’s this look?
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 7:10 PM
bernie could you ask them where they recommend parking/is there official event parking?
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Gotcha
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
what should i add
The fact that it’s a counterprotest against the student summit
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/01/2023 7:17 PM
done, feedback welcome
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
bernie could you ask them where they recommend parking/is there official event parking?
They have been told the Bull Street garage is open and recommended parking there
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Lynnie (she/her) 01/02/2023 11:18 AM
Any people in here from the Upstate? Someone is trying to organize a small picketing event outside of Magnuson's barbeque on Friday evening.
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Why are all the protests on Saturdays 😭 I work Saturdays man 😭
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Hayden (he/they) 01/03/2023 4:51 PM
Theres the protest to save Richard Moore tomorrow at the Statehouse but it might get rained out
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What time??
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Matt Cox he/him 01/03/2023 4:52 PM
1 pm
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If it doesn't rain I'll definitely be there Coming from sumter and working Saturdays sucksss there's never anything around here man and travel is pricey
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Hayden (he/they)
Theres the protest to save Richard Moore tomorrow at the Statehouse but it might get rained out
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/03/2023 5:04 PM
is there a social media post on this? i think ill try to show
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Hayden (he/they) 01/03/2023 5:07 PM
Yeah I'll hunt it down
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More details on Saturday
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Hayden (he/they) 01/03/2023 8:15 PM
Seems silly for them to go to Russell and stand around for an hour
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seb it/they
i wonder if @Columbia DSA is a good group to do statehouse grounds stuff
yea! sorry for the late reply but we'd be down to help with that
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jacklyn
yea! sorry for the late reply but we'd be down to help with that
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/03/2023 10:38 PM
awesome, we expect them to be at the state house by 12pm
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/04/2023 1:09 PM
I can confirm there is no one here
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/04/2023 1:09 PM
Are you on the north side facing gervais at?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/04/2023 1:11 PM
Yes
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I just did a lap of the capitol just to check, no one is here for anything
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Hayden (he/they) 01/04/2023 1:17 PM
I think it got postponed to 3
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/04/2023 1:17 PM
Ah ok! Who is organizing the demo?
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Hayden (he/they) 01/04/2023 1:18 PM
Couldn't tell you, I've heard by word of mouth
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Checked, it's done by a Courtney McClain
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yea! sorry for the late reply but we'd be down to help with that
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/04/2023 1:20 PM
Oh also, yall should use the graphic hayden made in this channel and get it posted ASAP
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Hayden (he/they) 01/04/2023 1:27 PM
Make sure y'all use the one that says 11 on the second slide, that's why I shared the link
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Matt Cox he/him 01/04/2023 3:09 PM
Are you folks there?
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Hayden (he/they) 01/04/2023 3:10 PM
I drove by, nobody there, went home
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Matt Cox he/him 01/04/2023 3:10 PM
Was that at 1? They moved it to 3
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Hayden (he/they) 01/04/2023 3:12 PM
It sounds like 4 people are out there
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@pinky they/she is on the ground
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Matt Cox he/him 01/04/2023 3:12 PM
OK, my kids and I are going to go down there. If nothing is happening, we can use it as an excuse to go see my wife’s office.
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pinky they/she 01/04/2023 3:27 PM
There's me and six other ppl I need to go home tho
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Is anyone going to any of the protests Saturday from clemson that I can ride with? (if I can go, I might have work training :/ orr either of the other events? Self defense or gun safety? I can pitch in for gas $$) (edited)
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/05/2023 9:01 AM
Happening at 10a today outside sc Supreme Court.
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Hope it goes well, wish I could be there hamsicheart hamsicheart
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Hayden (he/they) 01/05/2023 2:27 PM
Well this court decision is going to rain on their parade
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Victor (they/them) 01/06/2023 2:34 PM
I have 3 peices of cardboard about 1×2 feet each. Any suggestions for what to write on them for protest tomorrow?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/06/2023 3:20 PM
Abortions bans kill
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Bans stop safe abortions
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Numbers needed outside Russell house now
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@everyone
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Matt Cox he/him 01/07/2023 9:32 AM
On the way
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I wish I could go but good luck everyone
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I’m in cola working this morning. I’ll check in when I’m done to see if I should join up.
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 01/07/2023 10:47 AM
@Emma & i r sick
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Advisable now to go to statehouse
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Logan (he/him) 01/07/2023 12:13 PM
If u can come to the statehouse pls do lol
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Need bodies
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Hayden (he/they) 01/07/2023 12:23 PM
We done left
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We left already
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These speeches are wild Not in a fun, sexy way
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Ah, they managed to fit transphobia in
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/07/2023 12:52 PM
We asked several people if they support trans rights and they told us there is no such thing
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We're are yall at now? I'm out front of russell
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/07/2023 12:56 PM
Ill come get you @Kiral
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Logan (he/him) 01/07/2023 1:25 PM
Dasha and I are at Russell now where yall at
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@AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/07/2023 1:34 PM
Lobby
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2nd floor
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Cant miss us @Logan (he/him)
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Lol all the young people in the crowd are forced to be there
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Its a church thinf
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An entire group going into the event just told me they support abortion
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Wooow
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
An entire group going into the event just told me they support abortion
Matt Cox he/him 01/07/2023 2:18 PM
“We support abortion, we just REALLY LIKE telling people what they can’t do.”
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/07/2023 2:18 PM
This was a group of teens
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
An entire group going into the event just told me they support abortion
Hayden (he/they) 01/07/2023 2:18 PM
"also they got our $10"
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/07/2023 2:18 PM
They are forced to be there l0l
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Hayden (he/they) 01/07/2023 2:18 PM
Free them
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seb it/they 01/07/2023 2:55 PM
Is the counter protest stuff over?
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We’re chilling in the Russell lobby rn
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Waiting for their conference to end
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They’re in the talking stuff rn
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seb it/they 01/07/2023 2:55 PM
Okay cool
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And then we’ll shout at them a bit more
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
They are forced to be there l0l
Matt Cox he/him 01/07/2023 2:56 PM
Oh man. Love how they force people to swell their ranks then brag
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Just finishing up. Is there anything still going on or have I missed everything?
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They’re just now leaving
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I just got home safe thanks everyone. Hope yall are all safe still ❤️
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Matt Cox he/him 01/07/2023 4:29 PM
Thanks for making the trip! Our one out-of-towner vs their entire mob of cross state infiltrators 👀
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“the pro aborts” ew
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/07/2023 5:37 PM
someone tell them we talked to their members and half of them were pro choice and didnt want to be there lol
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yooo they tagged us let's fuckin go
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gotta love that #promotion
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oh they tagged oat?
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no carolina socialists
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because that's the account that most promoted the USC counter protest
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Olivia
yooo they tagged us let's fuckin go
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/07/2023 10:17 PM
theres a ton of forced birthers talking about your hayden laye sign
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By a ton do you mean two or are there more
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/07/2023 10:18 PM
theres a photo of one of ours with it and its most of the comments
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maybe 6-10 people
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i find it funny they think that sign represents an inordinate effort on our part when theres quite strong evidence they spent thousands of dollars solely on todays event
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we spent like maybe $20 collectively - if even
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/07/2023 10:19 PM
(they left on fucking charter buses)
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8 dollars of snacks and a cart
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living the dream
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Hayden (he/they) 01/07/2023 10:20 PM
We need swords
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/07/2023 10:20 PM
ha yeah
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common forced birther L, cant take their swords into russell
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Hayden (he/they) 01/07/2023 10:22 PM
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Found the sword store
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Matt Cox he/him 01/07/2023 10:22 PM
Man cosplayers go hard
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Custom Personalized Member's Name Sword. UP TO 3-4 MONTHS DELIVERY ON THE CUSTOM SWORD. Excellent Quality and Workmanship! (Sword and baldric instructions- remove sword from scabbard, turn scabbard upside down to match up "keyhole shape" scabbard clip to baldric clip, snap into place and then return the sword into scabbard and then it will hang,...
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need me one of these
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/07/2023 10:23 PM
yeah we gotta dress like one of their generals
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purple guy i assume
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he
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
yeah we gotta dress like one of their generals
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/07/2023 10:24 PM
wait no i bet they have weird names like the klan, about to impersinate a motherfucking grand dragon of the knights of columbus
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Hayden (he/they) 01/07/2023 10:24 PM
Complete basic uniform package for the Civil War Union soldier. Union Uniform special economical pricing at C&C Sutlery. Affordable. Authentic Civil War reproductions for reenactment or memorabilia. Custom sizing available. Order Now.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/07/2023 10:24 PM
dont you already have one
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Hayden (he/they) 01/07/2023 10:24 PM
Thats irrelevant
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Cyprus
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the most confusing part is that does the prolifelgbtq org think that those conservative orgs don’t hate queer people having autonomy as well…like the enemy of your enemy is not your friend/ally
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Nico (she/her) 01/07/2023 10:25 PM
They're grifters
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the most confusing part is that does the prolifelgbtq org think that those conservative orgs don’t hate queer people having autonomy as well…like the enemy of your enemy is not your friend/ally
it's a grift they just get paid
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/07/2023 10:25 PM
i saw someone walk into the event with a "climate change is a crisis" pin, among other libby shit
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called em out
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Hayden Laye used to market himself as a "pro-life socialist"
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Olivia
it's a grift they just get paid
all that money and still dripless
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Nico (she/her) 01/07/2023 10:26 PM
Lmaooo
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wtf
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aren't most of the people in these types of groups overwhelmingly cishet? i know a bunch of groups like that in the uk are
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drhead
aren't most of the people in these types of groups overwhelmingly cishet? i know a bunch of groups like that in the uk are
Nico (she/her) 01/07/2023 10:26 PM
Probably
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/07/2023 10:26 PM
notably this group was overwhelmingly older (edited)
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their only young people were bused in against their will
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Nico (she/her) 01/07/2023 10:26 PM
I still wonder if the k of c guy made it
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did you spot lindsey graham in disguise
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/07/2023 10:27 PM
he was not there i would recognize him
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Matt Cox he/him 01/07/2023 10:28 PM
KfC
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aren't most of the people in these types of groups overwhelmingly cishet? i know a bunch of groups like that in the uk are
it's hard to evaluate for prolifelgbtq but I follow their socials relatively closely and it seems like there's at least some of this. lots of "allies"
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Lindsey donated $25k to them though, which is just lovely
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And they have some rich old lady sponsor who’s matching up to $150k in donations this year
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it's like this clusterfuck of organizations that all feed into each other to maximize the grift and money laundering
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Hayden (he/they) 01/07/2023 10:32 PM
Seems very "blacks for trump"
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I tried to trace the "progressive pro-life" groups at one point and just got lost they're all shady and cross contaiminated
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Lindsey donated $25k to them though, which is just lovely
i mean i was just thinking of how funny/ironic that would be given that this seems like the perfect group for him... but really?
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There was a great moment where the people around me thought Joe Wilson was dead because a speaker lady (I think Pamela Evette?) looked up to the sky and said “I’m sure he wanted to be here today and is looking down on us with pride” And then had to clarify that he was flying today and couldn’t make the rally
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Hayden (he/they) 01/07/2023 10:35 PM
You should have gone "you lie!"
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Nah I had hope for a second
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And they have some rich old lady sponsor who’s matching up to $150k in donations this year
Matt Cox he/him 01/08/2023 8:46 AM
These numbers are hilarious since some crust-bucket asked us “who’s paying you to be out here?” Lacking benefactors, I kindly explained, “ur mom”
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Nico (she/her)
I still wonder if the k of c guy made it
He declined help when we offered it. Hope he’s okay
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/08/2023 9:37 AM
start checking obituaries i suppose
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He mentioned he had recently had open heart surgery
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Matt Cox he/him 01/08/2023 9:38 AM
That guy who was on the bench?
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Cyprus
He mentioned he had recently had open heart surgery
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/08/2023 9:38 AM
shit thats some intense surgery
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At one point during the march i tried to slow down a bit because I noticed how us walking quickly was making the group of forced birthers walk quickly and I didn’t particularly want any old people to die
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The cops told me to maintain my pace
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Matt Cox he/him
That guy who was on the bench?
Yeah
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 9:39 AM
The blame lies on the knights imo, they were the ones controlling the march pace
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Matt Cox he/him 01/08/2023 9:39 AM
So they just left a straggler behind and we actually tried to give them succor?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/08/2023 9:39 AM
i would say the cops
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we were sandwiched between bike cops and the cars in front
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Yeah the blame lies in the cops not letting anybody slow down
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/08/2023 9:39 AM
the cops controlled all the pacing the whole way
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Hayden (he/they)
The blame lies on the knights imo, they were the ones controlling the march pace
Matt Cox he/him 01/08/2023 9:40 AM
This is an excellent conversation to be bouncing between while I watch that dang dad talk about the “leftist men crisis” and how the man men who man all the time find the right, more attractive because they’re still believing the lies from people who will abandon you at a moments notice when you are no longer convenient, for instance, if you can’t keep up with a March because of your fucking surgery
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 9:40 AM
Idk the knights probably could have slowed down given the huge gap that formed in the middle. Either way it was not paced well
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Matt Cox he/him
This is an excellent conversation to be bouncing between while I watch that dang dad talk about the “leftist men crisis” and how the man men who man all the time find the right, more attractive because they’re still believing the lies from people who will abandon you at a moments notice when you are no longer convenient, for instance, if you can’t keep up with a March because of your fucking surgery
Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 9:41 AM
Literal toxic masculinity
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The bike cops were really aggressive toward us (unsurprisingly)
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Uscpd was mildly annoyed at us
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 9:44 AM
Also they left a ton of people and their kids in the breeze?
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Yeah the gaps were huge
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 9:44 AM
Like the entire last half of the march seemed lost
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Cyprus
Uscpd was mildly annoyed at us
Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 9:45 AM
Understatement of the century
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It more or less seemed like the two officers who were assigned to us just wanted to go home
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Hayden (he/they)
Like the entire last half of the march seemed lost
They didn’t have a set order and the only people who knew where they were going were the people at the front and main organisers from some of the groups. There was no communication to the marchers about the route or anything like that (edited)
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Matt Cox he/him 01/08/2023 9:47 AM
Almost like they were being treated as props and not genuinely involved believers, sort of like the teenagers who are dragged there against their will (edited)
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 9:47 AM
Weird that they claimed to be worried about people getting attacked but allowed that, and let people filter back to Russell in small groups
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Like I've marshalled a few smaller marches, we would never let that happen
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Matt Cox he/him 01/08/2023 9:48 AM
Yeah, the 10 of us we’re going to attack some 150 fascists. I’m anti-fascist, I’m not stupid.
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It was over 1000
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Matt Cox he/him 01/08/2023 9:48 AM
Number out of my bum, there were a lot of people
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Oh hell
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 9:49 AM
We could take em
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We could take the kofc they didn’t have their swords
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Matt Cox he/him 01/08/2023 9:49 AM
Shit, take two steps back from most of them and they’ll collapse and need an ambulance before they get to you (edited)
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Cyprus
We could take the kofc they didn’t have their swords
They also had about 5 years left alive between them
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 9:50 AM
Prime moment was us making fun of that guys hat and outfit for like 10 minutes, and then a guy dressed the same asked if we've seen a guy with the same hat on
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Matt Cox he/him 01/08/2023 9:50 AM
Lol
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 9:50 AM
Like of all the people to ask for directions he asks us
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I about died
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Or when one of the female auxillaries holding the sword walked up and was like "murder-ahs"
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/08/2023 9:51 AM
im still upset none of the knights responded when i called them drag queens and asked for their stage name
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Matt Cox he/him 01/08/2023 9:52 AM
Baby killing is cool when they are guilty of being Brown on top of Our Profits
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/08/2023 9:52 AM
purple guy especially
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Matt Cox he/him 01/08/2023 9:52 AM
Strut strut strut
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11/13 of us were USC students or alumni meanwhile I know of two usc students out of the thousands of people on the other side
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 9:53 AM
Nothing quite like watching a guy assault someone via sign and then almost take themselves out by walking backwards
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Like where do they find these people
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Holy shit yeah he almost fell over the planter didn’t he
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 9:53 AM
Could have been lights out for gramps
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Matt Cox he/him 01/08/2023 9:54 AM
Must’ve been that elite military training, they don’t cover walking backwards
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That dude tried to commit suicide by assault on a 22 year old it was incredible
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/08/2023 9:55 AM
do you think if that man had fucking fell and died when he did that they would have canceled the march lol (edited)
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11/13 of us were USC students or alumni meanwhile I know of two usc students out of the thousands of people on the other side
I met and saw a decent group of sorority girls from UofSC (because ofc they were there), but yeah, 90% of people I met in the march were both shocked that I was actually a student here and also very much not from the area. Aside from the USC people, the closest I heard people coming from was Greenville
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Matt Cox he/him 01/08/2023 9:55 AM
I was just thinking of that Corey Allen video about North Charleston, where he accused drag performers of “wearing womanhood like a costume“ when there were a bunch of dinosaurs strutting around wearing manhood as a costume
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I met and saw a decent group of sorority girls from UofSC (because ofc they were there), but yeah, 90% of people I met in the march were both shocked that I was actually a student here and also very much not from the area. Aside from the USC people, the closest I heard people coming from was Greenville
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/08/2023 9:56 AM
we found a single person from like irmo
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that was the closest
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 9:56 AM
Should have played the Hank song
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Also in regards to the march I watched the whole thing the back was just trailing old people who couldn't keep up. I saw walkers. Then you just had several cruisers crawling behind them trying to make sure they didn't fucking die
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
do you think if that man had fucking fell and died when he did that they would have canceled the march lol (edited)
Matt Cox he/him 01/08/2023 9:56 AM
No, they already spent good money.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
we found a single person from like irmo
Basically a local!
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/08/2023 9:56 AM
we probably asked 2 dozen people, maybe a little more, and got 1 single local
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
do you think if that man had fucking fell and died when he did that they would have canceled the march lol (edited)
No they would've arrested me 🙃
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/08/2023 9:56 AM
probably
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ACAB
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fuck that fash lookin cop in particular
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Matt Cox he/him 01/08/2023 9:57 AM
More specific?
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We really should’ve advertised better. A lot of people who were just out on Greene st and didn’t know what was going on were really supportive of us
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/08/2023 9:57 AM
the one who "gave him a talking to"
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 9:57 AM
Lessons for next time
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1. Make and publish a banner faster
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2. Share banner with constituent orgs for more traction
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Need better graphic design than canva
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Hayden (he/they)
1. Make and publish a banner faster
Matt Cox he/him 01/08/2023 9:58 AM
Sub section: have a template ready to go
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 9:58 AM
3. Plan event so it's not on move-in day
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Need better graphic design than canva
Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 9:58 AM
Wow feelings hurt but okay
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/08/2023 9:58 AM
3 is beyond our control
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i dont think they will move it if we ask nicely
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 9:59 AM
I don't think the quality of the graphic design is as relevant as making sure we spread information well
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Hayden (he/they)
Wow feelings hurt but okay
Sorry, it’s not against you I just really dislike how forgettable canva templates can be. I can’t do any better
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Cyprus
Need better graphic design than canva
Based off other events with shittier flyers I really don't think this is the short coming tbh
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/08/2023 9:59 AM
OAT still needs sociaal media templates
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Cyprus
Sorry, it’s not against you I just really dislike how forgettable canva templates can be. I can’t do any better
Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 9:59 AM
What would be a way to make a more memorable one
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/08/2023 9:59 AM
idk who said they would do those but i cant
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i can help
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 10:00 AM
I'm sure I can pump out some that will be truly unforgettable
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i own and know how to use adobe shit
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For anyone who doesn’t have adobe, there’s a free photoshop alternative that’s 90% as good with the exact same layout called Photopea, I adore it.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/08/2023 10:02 AM
i have been using gnu image editor
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but its a bit of a PITA'
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 10:03 AM
Also I think the advantage of Canva is that anyone and their mother can do it, so we don't have to rely on the few people with adobe
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But there's also no reason we have to do one or the other, Canva can be a backup to better software
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Victor (they/them) 01/08/2023 12:13 PM
The way we can control the time of the event is by reserving the Russel ballroom before they can. Thus forcing them to do it the week after when students are already back at usc and we can have more backup
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Hayden (he/they) 01/08/2023 12:13 PM
Also just luck
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/08/2023 12:15 PM
how far out can we reserve that space
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can we do it now?
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I’ll check, but I think it has to be in the same academic year
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/08/2023 12:16 PM
we should also actually confirm if they do indeed always do it that week
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Victor (they/them) 01/08/2023 12:17 PM
Since its "first annual", I think I they will try to plan it next year for same time ie right before legislative session. Jan 6 is the day we want to book so we force them to do Jan 13 instead
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robin (they/it) 01/08/2023 12:23 PM
but the protest will likely be the same day just not the student summit or whatever
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Also remember the student summit and the march were separate things. If you really wanted, you could also get an application in with the SC Department of Administration to reserve the state house grounds for an event as well.
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seb it/they 01/12/2023 7:51 PM
Come on Thursday, January 19 to kick off the legislative session and support LGBTQ+ equality.
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Lynnie (she/her) 01/18/2023 1:16 PM
I'll be there. Looking forward to meeting some of you!
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/18/2023 1:17 PM
i might be there? i have office hours that i cant miss but maybe idk
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Matt Cox he/him 01/18/2023 1:17 PM
There’s three events, so you have time
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/18/2023 1:18 PM
8:30am one meeting with legislators seems like it might be a good pick
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would anyone else from the USC area want to go with me 👉 👈
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Matt Cox he/him 01/18/2023 1:19 PM
I’ll be there if you mean just walk into the event. If you need me to swing by and pick you up can do
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/18/2023 1:19 PM
ill think about it
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
would anyone else from the USC area want to go with me 👉 👈
I have class at 10:05, but I’m planning to be at the first things
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Max (they/it) 01/18/2023 1:49 PM
im able to make it
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I'll be there
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/18/2023 3:23 PM
Okay, ill be going to the 8:30 one
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Idk if ill stay for all of them
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ronnie (he/him) 01/18/2023 9:17 PM
I’ll def and try to make it out there!
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Matt Cox he/him 01/19/2023 8:13 AM
I’m at the state house if anybody else is here yet?
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Or I will be once I get out of the car
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seb it/they 01/19/2023 8:13 AM
Unfortunately i can't come ;-; coding homework took longer than expected
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Matt Cox he/him 01/19/2023 8:14 AM
We will miss you! Take care of your bizness!
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hayden and i are walking up
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Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 8:18 AM
We are outside blatt
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Pendleton side of the grounds
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@Matt Cox he/him with the drip
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ronnie (he/him) 01/19/2023 8:39 AM
I’m late 😫 but otw
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Is this the building with the fentanyl people outside?
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yes
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Thank God I thought I was late so I came in and I've been nervous I was the only BITFRUITY here
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Is this the building with the fentanyl people outside?
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 8:44 AM
Ask them for some on the way in
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Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 8:45 AM
People are headed down to meet yall
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ronnie (he/him) 01/19/2023 8:45 AM
Thank you I’m in here but confused
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Thank God I thought I was late so I came in and I've been nervous I was the only BITFRUITY here
where are u
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jacklyn
where are u
Possibly the wrong room...
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318 blatt
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Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 8:48 AM
It's 318, third floor
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Kiral
Possibly the wrong room...
we're coming to find u <3
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seb it/they 01/19/2023 8:58 AM
How many people are there?
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Matt Cox he/him 01/19/2023 8:59 AM
We are forced to move to a bigger venue, so that is promising
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seb it/they 01/19/2023 9:04 AM
Lol i love how no one is masking 🙃
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yea..
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Matt Cox he/him 01/19/2023 9:04 AM
Only our folks. Couple others. But yeah. Blecch
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Good luck, y'all. With you in spirit from NC
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Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 9:28 AM
Fent math
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 9:29 AM
Well I think fentanyl is enough to = death
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Matt Cox he/him 01/19/2023 9:30 AM
Tactically deployed Sinophobia
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RadixComet 2 01/19/2023 9:31 AM
You gotta throw China in there of course (edited)
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Matt Cox he/him 01/19/2023 9:43 AM
Press conference
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Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 9:52 AM
Me changing into work clothes after the gay function
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Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 10:06 AM
Idea for next time: make a qr for our socials and show it to people on your phones
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 10:40 AM
I think a qr code for the website
10:40
Will be good
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Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 10:44 AM
Problem is a ton of people aren't on discord, so we need an easy way to divert them to public stuff
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 10:46 AM
If yall have any other social media, it'd be a good gate way too the server. Since people can follow the social media accounts that most people have immediate acess too like Instagram.
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Qr code to linktree
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Since it's got everything in one spot
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 10:52 AM
The website has everything too though
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Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 10:52 AM
We can make multiple
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Just make sure it’s a non-expiring invite, I’ve had a terrible snafu with that before
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Linktree is generally clearer and explicitly for this sort of thing
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Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 10:52 AM
I use qrmonkey, it's free and easy
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RadixComet 2 01/19/2023 10:53 AM
Give me the not expire invite and I'll setup a domain for it
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Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 10:53 AM
I can't fiddle with it rn because work but a few labeled codes are good to have
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RadixComet 2 01/19/2023 10:56 AM
Nice I'll setup a domain name when I get home in like 2 hours
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Matt Cox he/him 01/19/2023 11:37 AM
We are famous
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 11:38 AM
Hope the article spreads around. The more eyes the better
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pinky they/she 01/19/2023 11:41 AM
Just now checking in, is this still going on
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Matt Cox he/him 01/19/2023 11:41 AM
Not the conference but we are at the media training
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 11:41 AM
Its mostly a waste of time
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theres free food tho
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 11:41 AM
Dont come if you are on the fence
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Ok yeah food
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or so we've been told
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This is true, they’re just talking about what these bills are and giving basic advice
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
Its mostly a waste of time
ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 11:42 AM
Glad we left early then. Thanks for the info.
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There’s food five feet from us we want to touch with our mouths
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pinky they/she 01/19/2023 11:42 AM
Gotcha, I have my dog with me and she bites so I'll pass
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 11:42 AM
They dont want us to call the people backing these bills bigots (edited)
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Matt Cox he/him 01/19/2023 11:42 AM
The breakout sessions might be better
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That’s the dream, baby
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copium
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pinky they/she 01/19/2023 11:42 AM
How long will y'all be there?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
They dont want us to call the people backing these bills bigots (edited)
Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 11:42 AM
Who is they?
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pinky they/she
How long will y'all be there?
no idea
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pinky they/she
How long will y'all be there?
It says until 1, but they’re losing steam quick
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I'll do one better and call them fascists
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Max (they/it) 01/19/2023 11:43 AM
they're telling us that people voting for the bills are being pushed from "out of state" which is horseshit
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Circling the same point over and over and over
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seb it/they
I'll do one better and call them fascists
Matt Cox he/him 01/19/2023 11:43 AM
Call it like it is, comrade
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I love liberalism uwu
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Bernie
Circling the same point over and over and over
ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 11:44 AM
Sounds like most informative meetings
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seb it/they
I'll do one better and call them fascists
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 11:44 AM
Thats what i said
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Hayden (he/they)
Who is they?
ronnie (he/him) 01/19/2023 11:44 AM
Campaign for southern equality and hrc types
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Respectability powitics
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Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 11:44 AM
Is Todd there
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can we all just grab food and leave yall
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Some of the people do some pretty okay stuff like name change and gender marker help, but dear god I’m withering
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It’s years of PoliSci classes all over again
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Matt Cox he/him 01/19/2023 11:45 AM
If we are mean they might think the people they are trying to criminalize are dangerous, and might try to criminalize them 😵💫😵💫😵💫
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Yea I'm snatching her name changing card bc 👀
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Respectability powitics
Honestlyyyyy Who knows, I guarantee you some of these legislators like being degraded behind closed doors. We’re ignoring a whole demographic here
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Glad my code broke
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Max (they/it) 01/19/2023 11:45 AM
guy is saying "fix our damn roads"
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So I'm not dealing with this
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 11:46 AM
Coming here was a mistake
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Max (they/it)
guy is saying "fix our damn roads"
Same guy who calls himself the Alfred to our Batman (edited)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 11:46 AM
Goddamn liberals
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Max (they/it) 01/19/2023 11:46 AM
there's gonna be food eventually
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person from hrc is esp annoying
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Max (they/it)
there's gonna be food eventually
Matt Cox he/him 01/19/2023 11:46 AM
Ostensibly. Not seeing much evidence
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jacklyn
person from hrc is esp annoying
he called himself a batman character or some shit at the start
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Max (they/it) 01/19/2023 11:47 AM
there are cool people here trapped with us that are probably worth meeting
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It's a good look for oat to have so many people here tho
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Matt Cox he/him 01/19/2023 11:47 AM
There’s like six muffins and some donut holes it’s like Hunger Games if that’s all
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Esp when everyone else is from Asheville apparently
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look behind u matt
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Kiral
It's a good look for oat to have so many people here tho
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 11:47 AM
We are half of the people here
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Max (they/it)
there are cool people here trapped with us that are probably worth meeting
This is true. We’re not here for the captors, we’re here to meet fellow prisoners
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Matt Cox he/him
There’s like six muffins and some donut holes it’s like Hunger Games if that’s all
ronnie (he/him) 01/19/2023 11:47 AM
There’s sandwiches and stuff trapped at the back…reach out and touch faith
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Matt Cox he/him
There’s like six muffins and some donut holes it’s like Hunger Games if that’s all
or like to the left
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jacklyn
he called himself a batman character or some shit at the start
Matt Cox he/him 01/19/2023 11:47 AM
I am supportive. I am the knight. I…am…ALFRED!!!!
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Ask them some spicy questions
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I’m sad one of the HRC people has such a cool aesthetic
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seb it/they
Ask them some spicy questions
Matt Cox he/him 01/19/2023 11:48 AM
“What is the most effective way to Bash the Fash? Respectfully?”
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Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 11:48 AM
"so how should I defend my trans friends when one of these bills passed? What are y'all going to do about it?"
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I’m sad one of the HRC people has such a cool aesthetic
which one lol
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jacklyn
which one lol
Lol Rhys, I love the hair and the pattern on that blazer is giving me vibes
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Matt Cox he/him 01/19/2023 11:49 AM
Oh yeah I see the sammies now
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Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 11:50 AM
Part of me wishes I could witness this, part of me knows it's not good for my health
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Audio recording incoming friend
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Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 11:50 AM
Oh boy lol
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So glad I grabbed my sandwich and left
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You abandoned us
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Liv went out for milk and never came back
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Lol someone could stream the presentation in #meetings-text
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Olivia
So glad I grabbed my sandwich and left
we all need to do this rn
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Matt Cox he/him 01/19/2023 11:52 AM
I have not had enough sleep for this fudge me
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Posting this later
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55 mins
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 11:54 AM
That's a proper audio recorder
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Professional
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RadixComet 2 01/19/2023 11:54 AM
I'm about at the point of being tired of these peaceful ways achieving little
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theyre making us do stretches yall...
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Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 11:54 AM
So much cringe captured in such a small box
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RadixComet 2 01/19/2023 11:55 AM
Glad I left then
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 11:55 AM
Moderates are needed for public opinion
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I love random stretching not considering disabled peops
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Yeah between that and masking it seems like disabled people are not a priority or a thing they're aware of
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Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 11:57 AM
And what's the moderate position on these bills? Only ban healthcare for some people?
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Hayden (he/they)
And what's the moderate position on these bills? Only ban healthcare for some people?
ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 11:59 AM
Well from the accounts of people here, it seems like it's a non-confrontational position of opposing the bills.
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Matt Cox he/him 01/19/2023 12:00 PM
Please sir, I want some human rights
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 12:01 PM
It's a position that's more likely to gain public support from those outside of the community. But both moderates and more radical positions are needed for change.
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Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 12:16 PM
Did anyone stick around lol
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 12:20 PM
We are gone
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Got food tho
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And I stand corrected, the chicken salad is very good. Warm, though.
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It's a position that's more likely to gain public support from those outside of the community. But both moderates and more radical positions are needed for change.
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 12:40 PM
OAT is a multi-ideology org, its built into our points of unity. this event today just overall didnt feel useful. ill be a lib and be chummy with representatives if i feel like its making progress, but there were problems as follows: -there was no way to tell who was a rep and who wasnt at the coffee event, when there are only 2-3 reps and 50 people this makes it hard to do the whole "coffee and talk" thing -with the meeting, we just spent like an hour and 15 minutes reading a phamplet they gave us that had basic info on the bills. most people showing up at 10am on a thursday already know this, and it would have been a far better use of time to hand us the literature and then talk about something else. i really liked the brief mention of lawyers and orgs present who could help with name change stuff, but again, there was little to know way to find them in the crowd (edited)
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this is solely my opinion
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 12:43 PM
The press conference was definitely the most impactful allowing for media representation
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The coffee meeting was more like a social gathering than a meeting of representatives but it was a good opportunity to meet allies which Hayden seemed make good use of
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
OAT is a multi-ideology org, its built into our points of unity. this event today just overall didnt feel useful. ill be a lib and be chummy with representatives if i feel like its making progress, but there were problems as follows: -there was no way to tell who was a rep and who wasnt at the coffee event, when there are only 2-3 reps and 50 people this makes it hard to do the whole "coffee and talk" thing -with the meeting, we just spent like an hour and 15 minutes reading a phamplet they gave us that had basic info on the bills. most people showing up at 10am on a thursday already know this, and it would have been a far better use of time to hand us the literature and then talk about something else. i really liked the brief mention of lawyers and orgs present who could help with name change stuff, but again, there was little to know way to find them in the crowd (edited)
Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 12:44 PM
I felt that the first part was more of a networking opportunity, which I found useful if only to see some of y'all in person. It didn't help that hutto, the only senator I saw, was around for about 90 seconds
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 12:45 PM
we saw a few others
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RadixComet 2 01/19/2023 12:45 PM
I tried to socialize and got shut down instantly sad day
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 12:45 PM
i shook hands with someone called madame secretary
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 12:45 PM
And the politicians only seemed to care about offical organizers more than anything
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 12:46 PM
it should also be noted my autism was incredibly unhappy all day with the crowds, noise, and tiny space, so if im grumpy rhats why
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Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 12:46 PM
A big issue was just the structure of the room, I physically couldn't get to people because of the massive table
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But I'm glad I elbowed in and found some people
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 12:46 PM
that didnt help and thats the state houses fault yeah
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RadixComet 2 01/19/2023 12:47 PM
I got to one person, said I liked their pins, got shut down and just went back into my own space lol
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 12:47 PM
State house is better designed for offical meetings than with the public
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Would it be beneficial if we did our own chill social event?
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At like a park or something
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RadixComet 2 01/19/2023 12:48 PM
Probably honestly
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Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 12:48 PM
I think it's worth noting in the future that we don't need everyone and their mother their to network, especially if space is limited
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RadixComet 2 01/19/2023 12:48 PM
Maybe not outdoors though, outdoors suuucks
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Bet let's do a picnic
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Outdoors bc pandemic
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Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 12:48 PM
Like two or three smiling faces to hand stuff out and talk
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 12:49 PM
Gave me reassurance seeing a decent amount of people there tho. I've been on hrt for 3 years and have barely met any of other trans people so I didn't know how much support there would be
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Gave me reassurance seeing a decent amount of people there tho. I've been on hrt for 3 years and have barely met any of other trans people so I didn't know how much support there would be
RadixComet 2 01/19/2023 12:50 PM
I've tried to drag you out lol
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RadixComet 2
I've tried to drag you out lol
ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 12:50 PM
Socialization can be scary
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This is very true. Didn’t realise how overstimulated I felt until I got back to the quiet of my own private space. These things can be a lot
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 12:51 PM
yeah
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that was just
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SO MUCH
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the whole time
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RadixComet 2 01/19/2023 12:52 PM
Can we just host like a lan party
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 12:52 PM
i would be down
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you're trans i know all of you are nerds
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I’d love to just sit down on grass and stare at people for a few minutes before we all go out separate ways A lovely meeting
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RadixComet 2 01/19/2023 12:53 PM
I'm not trans but I'm a nerd
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
you're trans i know all of you are nerds
An unfair and unjust and entirely true accusation
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RadixComet 2
I'm not trans but I'm a nerd
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 12:53 PM
would you like to be 👀
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RadixComet 2
I'm not trans but I'm a nerd
ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 12:53 PM
The biggest nerd I know, I still love you tho
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Athena, don’t trans people!
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RadixComet 2 01/19/2023 12:53 PM
I have the networking equipment to set up a lan party getlanceredidiot
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
would you like to be 👀
ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 12:53 PM
Please don't trans my bf lol
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RadixComet 2
I'm not trans but I'm a nerd
It’s okay, I’m trans but the wrong kind of nerd for this (had to look up what a lan party is 💀 ) Together we’ll be fine
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Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 12:55 PM
I do know of two Ian's coming to Columbia soon
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 12:55 PM
digital lan party, while maybe less fun, would probably be more accessible
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Bernie
It’s okay, I’m trans but the wrong kind of nerd for this (had to look up what a lan party is 💀 ) Together we’ll be fine
RadixComet 2 01/19/2023 12:55 PM
I'm about the worst nerd you can be. I mostly do software and hardware engineering though spamdance
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 12:55 PM
we have a lot of people all over the state who could join
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Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 12:56 PM
Wild shot in the dark: hoi4 party
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RadixComet 2 01/19/2023 12:56 PM
A what
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 12:56 PM
l0l
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 12:56 PM
It's a grand strategy game
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 12:56 PM
if only fallout new vegas was multiplayer
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RadixComet 2
A what
Hearts of iron?
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RadixComet 2 01/19/2023 12:57 PM
No clue what that is
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Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 12:57 PM
My flavor of nerd is different apparently
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I think, anything I know is through osmosis of gamer friends
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No clue what that is
ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 12:57 PM
It's like risk but more complicated
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RadixComet 2 01/19/2023 12:57 PM
No idea what risk is
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 12:57 PM
Uncultured
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RadixComet 2 01/19/2023 12:58 PM
Ami i either program or play deltarune you know this
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Hayden (he/they)
My flavor of nerd is different apparently
No, that’s completely fair. It’s exactly the kind of game I like. The most advanced game I’ve ever played is Democracy 4 💀
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Ami i either program or play deltarune you know this
ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 12:58 PM
Sometimes you play Nintendo games
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Smashbros tournament when
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ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 12:59 PM
I've tried some of those grand strategy games but I can't support paradox due to their pricing policies. It's clearly taking advantage of their consumer base
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No idea what risk is
It’s like if you took Monopoly and chess and put them in a blender
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Smashbros tournament when
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 1:00 PM
ok YES
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i love smash bros because its the only modern game i can win by button mashing everything
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
i love smash bros because its the only modern game i can win by button mashing everything
Okay wait is that how you’re supposed to play? I thought I was doing it wrong 😭
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 1:01 PM
thats how my dyspraxic self plays
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if i have to use more than about 3 fingers at once it all just starts becoming random inputs anyway
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I've tried some of those grand strategy games but I can't support paradox due to their pricing policies. It's clearly taking advantage of their consumer base
Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 1:01 PM
Arrr, matey
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
if i have to use more than about 3 fingers at once it all just starts becoming random inputs anyway
Okay lol same, good to know
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Hayden (he/they)
Arrr, matey
ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 1:02 PM
Lol, tried that but couldn't figure out the files and stuff. I'm not the best at computers
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 1:53 PM
oh yeah also, the caterer for today's event was none other than seawell's
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
oh yeah also, the caterer for today's event was none other than seawell's
Matt Cox he/him 01/19/2023 1:53 PM
Can someone fill me in on that? I heard y’all talking about it
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Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 1:54 PM
That's the place on rosewood that hosts right wingers
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Like they hosted the anti-choice sword-core crowd and moms for liberty
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 1:54 PM
they host moms for liberty and they hosted an anti-abortion dinner the night before that saturday seminar
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Worst of all, their banana pudding sucks
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Matt Cox he/him 01/19/2023 1:55 PM
Ugh I would think the KfC would go to KFC
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Worst of all, their banana pudding sucks
ColorfulKnoll 01/19/2023 1:55 PM
A crime against humanity
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Worst of all, their banana pudding sucks
Matt Cox he/him 01/19/2023 1:55 PM
I CAN FORGIVE A LOT OF THINGS GODDAMNIT BUT AS A SOUTHERNER….
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 1:55 PM
yeah i would like to make it clear seawells is a 4/10
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for food
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Lol love the name change, Athena
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 1:55 PM
ty ty
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
yeah i would like to make it clear seawells is a 4/10
Just what their customers deserve
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/19/2023 1:56 PM
it was commiesexbot but that was too overt for me
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Matt Cox he/him 01/19/2023 1:56 PM
Sewerls
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Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 1:56 PM
If you look at the website their food literally looks like plastic
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The chicken salad was good. T-2 hours to find out if eating their warm chicken salad poisons me.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
it was commiesexbot but that was too overt for me
... but is it too overt for me? Questions, questions.
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... but is it too overt for me? Questions, questions.
Matt Cox he/him 01/19/2023 1:58 PM
I like my sexbots covert
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Sleeper cell SBs, activated by Frankie Goes To Hollywood songs
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Lynnie (she/her) 01/19/2023 4:18 PM
Hey all. Thanks for coming today. I know it was a major challenge for some, and extremely frustrating for others. I want you all to know I appreciate each of you. This is going to take ALL OF US, working in our respective ways and spaces. Sometimes we will cross-pollinate and disagree on strategy - that's fine and even healthy. We all have a role in this, and contribute where and how we can. So thank you for showing up today. I promise it made a difference (how big? IDK) even if it isn't apparent right now.
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Hayden (he/they) 01/19/2023 4:20 PM
At the very least we got to meet each other lol
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Lynnie (she/her) 01/19/2023 4:20 PM
That's a win in my book
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Hey so I was reading that article from earlier and uh did I miss him or was this a lie?
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Lynnie (she/her) 01/19/2023 5:05 PM
He was not there, but he likely will sponsor
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Lynnie (she/her)
He was not there, but he likely will sponsor
Didnt realize the article was written before the press conference >< [a great practice, don't report on the news, just report news will he reported very cook Nevin]
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/20/2023 7:38 PM
Hi folx, Thank you for all the incredible organizing that you're doing and for showing up at the statehouse yesterday! Your presence made a positive impact for trans people in our state, despite the missteps and miscommunications from the coordinators. Even with all the chaos of the day, we got some solid media coverage that will hopefully continue throughout session. There were so many lessons learned yesterday. For starters, advocates would have been better served by having greeters to help orient people to the space, to introduce new advocates to the legislators in the room, and to help people understand the flow of the day. We could have handed out printed agendas and resource folders. We could have opened with some remarks during the coffee hour. We could have done more intentional outreach with BIPOC and People of the Global Majority-led orgs. The training could have prepared you better for legislator visits and writing testimony. There could have been better communication about the day overall. As a member of the SC United team, I share in the responsibility for how yesterday shook out, and I commit to serving you better. I would love to hear your feedback about your experiences. If you would feel comfortable sharing, please reach out to me at mmoore@scwren.org. I will compile your feedback and share it with the SC United steering committee after removing all personally identifying information.
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In the coming weeks, WREN will host some trainings that may be of interest to the group. We will offer training on mental health first aid facilitated by a queer led therapist collective called Amaryllis Counseling, street medic training facilitated by Transgender Awareness Alliance in collaboration with ARM, marshaling, legal observing, deep persuasion canvassing, SC lawmaking 101 with a train-the-trainer session, and more. If you have trainings that you are leading, please let us know and we'll cross promote. We'd also love to co-host trainings so that we're making the most impact with our limited time resources. I would gladly accompany folx on legislator visits if it would feel supportive. This group inspires me, and I look forward to building, learning, and growing with you.
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seb it/they 01/20/2023 7:44 PM
Can you possibly get me dates for those trainings and whatnot so i can go ahead and make events for them? @pickles- they/them (mel)
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Can you possibly get me dates for those trainings and whatnot so i can go ahead and make events for them? @pickles- they/them (mel)
pickles- they/them (mel) 01/20/2023 7:45 PM
Yes! We’re still working on scheduling them. I’ll post the registration links and details here when we have them.
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seb it/they 01/20/2023 7:46 PM
Okay great thank you
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Are y'all doing a full 20 hour training with ARM or a shorter training?
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/20/2023 7:46 PM
It’ll be the 20 hours
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seb it/they 01/20/2023 7:46 PM
CSOC is also in the process of trying to set up a medic training which is why I'm asking
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CSOC is also in the process of trying to set up a medic training which is why I'm asking
pickles- they/them (mel) 01/20/2023 7:47 PM
This is good news! It would be incredible to have at least one working street medic collective here. Maybe we can pool resources?
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seb it/they 01/20/2023 7:48 PM
I can talk to other CSOC members about it
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/20/2023 7:52 PM
csoc has been struggling to find a place to do this, im down
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csoc has been struggling to find a place to do this, im down
pickles- they/them (mel) 01/20/2023 7:56 PM
Awesome! Should I connect CSOC organizers with Tee from transgender Awareness Alliance?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/20/2023 7:57 PM
are they the ones running the ARM training?
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if so, definitely
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
are they the ones running the ARM training?
pickles- they/them (mel) 01/20/2023 7:59 PM
Yep!
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/20/2023 8:00 PM
awesome. @Cyprus is csoc's representative to OAT, but seb and i can also pass on any info to the org.
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Max (they/it) 01/21/2023 1:51 PM
sorry im just seeing this now, im currently working to get an ARM training session for csoc sometime in early March and would love to talk with whoever can help with that (edited)
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Moss (he/him) 01/22/2023 2:15 PM
Tonight, charleston
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pinky they/she 01/22/2023 8:06 PM
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Lynnie (she/her) 01/24/2023 11:56 AM
Hey folx, I'm at the state house now trying to figure out a rally point. Ping me as you arrive and I will try to direct you
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Lynnie (she/her) 01/24/2023 12:03 PM
Currently on NW side of state house
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Outside
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Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 12:06 PM
Good luck, give 'em hell
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Lynnie (she/her) 01/24/2023 12:09 PM
Now on SE side
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Heading to lobby
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MFL infesting the upstairs lobby
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MFL infesting the upstairs lobby
Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 12:36 PM
Verb well chosen
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/24/2023 12:38 PM
someone go get a big bottle of raid and a broom
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Rn Senate is in recess I think, House is going through third readings rn
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ColorfulKnoll 01/24/2023 12:41 PM
I prefer using a shoe. It's more personal that way
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House adjourned
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Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 12:44 PM
Did the hearing go already???
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No, that was general business done and now they’re breaking apart to faff about and wander over to committees and such
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Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 12:48 PM
How many football teams were congratulated today, the Lord's work being done on our tax dollars, piss up a rope
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No, that was general business done and now they’re breaking apart to faff about and wander over to committees and such
ColorfulKnoll 01/24/2023 12:49 PM
Thank you for keeping us updated on the live political situation atm. It's helpful to know and it's appreciated
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It’s my job, may as well help you all keep tabs too
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Senate is having some guy grandstand about how the government is going to steal all of our guns 💀 Not as relevant, but he’s talking about emperors and nails and how people don’t know how to use guns but should still be able to have them Whatever your feelings on guns, it’s a very fun and very poorly made argument Shooting himself in the foot, so to speak (edited)
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Senate is having some guy grandstand about how the government is going to steal all of our guns 💀 Not as relevant, but he’s talking about emperors and nails and how people don’t know how to use guns but should still be able to have them Whatever your feelings on guns, it’s a very fun and very poorly made argument Shooting himself in the foot, so to speak (edited)
ColorfulKnoll 01/24/2023 12:54 PM
Does the guy not realize that conservatives control the national house and our state is as red as they come?
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I dont know where the boogie man is coming from
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Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 12:54 PM
Right nostril
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It’s just noise to make noise, we don’t need the SC legislature to pass a Second Amendment Protection Act It’s the Constitution There’s more powerful institutions already doing that 💀
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ColorfulKnoll 01/24/2023 12:55 PM
Gosh I wish our state politicians were more clever
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Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 12:56 PM
Wolves at the door, and they tell us to fear the monsters in the house, ourselves
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Gosh I wish our state politicians were more clever
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/24/2023 12:56 PM
i dont because most of them are our enemies
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i dont because most of them are our enemies
ColorfulKnoll 01/24/2023 12:56 PM
Fair point
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Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 12:58 PM
I wish they were more honest. I appreciate bulls in china shops, at least they don't know their ass from their elbows, but if they had an inkling of how to make this shit stick...
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ColorfulKnoll 01/24/2023 1:01 PM
A lot of them are honest but only when on the campaign trail. Like Verdin's campaign platform mentions believing in transphobic and homophobic ideas ( hiding it behind Christian values tho, He's part of the free Presbyterian church which is a homophobic and transphobic calvanist church)
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Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 1:06 PM
It's not honest, tho. They invent fears to hide their ignorance. Like Tim Pool (cw transphobia) saying "alternate forms of kinship" can only mean "grooming" not "yes, this is the child we called our son, but now they are our daughter/child/goblin." They know their objections aren't worth the stains on their souls, but they fear. They call bravery the fear of shame, sending men and now women and others (MORE 👏 TRANS 👏 DRONE 👏 PILOTS 👏 ) to die or face scorn and while they may be there for their "Band of Brothers" (as the Nazis were) what brought them there was the fear of ostracism and rejection. To quote Col Kurtz from Apocalypse Now, "They lie, and we must be merciful to those who lie...I hate them."
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ColorfulKnoll 01/24/2023 1:11 PM
Fair point, I didn't think of that
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Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 1:14 PM
We are taught to see people as flawed, but good actors. But to get all biblical (when have i ever) we know them by their fruits. They shut out any debate while claiming no one will listen to them. We listen, we disagree, we back up what we are saying and we "debunk" and "own" them. That's why my speech was going to call them out specifically. Even if it did nothing, I wanted them to know we see them. They can rule, but they cannot hide
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/24/2023 1:24 PM
Hey! The new room is Blatt 110 ugh
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Good news: Dana Yow is testifying in the committee, she’s an absolute delight and as far as I remember, a decent ally. Idk if ours is the one she’s testifying on tho
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They say the committee meeting is scheduled to start at 1:50
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/24/2023 1:53 PM
For folx who can’t attend in person, LIVESTREAMING LINK: https://www.scstatehouse.gov/video/stream.php?key=12711&audio=0
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/24/2023 2:00 PM
Dang y’all they cut remarks to 1 min per person
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Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 2:01 PM
I didn’t think I could get more angry at this situation
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/24/2023 2:01 PM
They are really f*cking around today
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Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 2:01 PM
Time for them to find out
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The hell ???
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Does it look like it’s starting soon? These people aren’t known for their punctuality
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Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 2:03 PM
If anyone feels like not ceding time in protest of cutting time to “me like/me no like” I would approve
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Does it look like it’s starting soon? These people aren’t known for their punctuality
pickles- they/them (mel) 01/24/2023 2:04 PM
They said it’s pushed back to 2:45 now
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Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 2:04 PM
CHRIST ON A CRACKER
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/24/2023 2:04 PM
They’re doing a 1 hour meeting first 😬🫠
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https://www.scstatehouse.gov/video/stream.php?key=12710&audio=0 Here’s the link to the main committee meeting
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/24/2023 2:08 PM
Y’all this is how they treat us at the steakhouse. And with 20ish bills, it’s gonna be a long session
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This is a tactic to keep the people from having a say in the lawmaking process
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Has the main committee meeting begun?
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/24/2023 2:11 PM
Full house EPW committee called to order for sc Ed oversight committee presentation
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It has started in other words
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Oh, we’ve got the screening now on the private feed. For some reason it’s not coming up on state house website links
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They are STRUGGLING with these mics
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Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 2:14 PM
Given the tomf*ckery they’ve been pulling I would suggest some aggressive (in the sense of not stopping till we’ve had a say) actions where we fill an office, someone reads a prepared statement while the others prevent anyone stopping them by linking arms, and then leave
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Full disclosure there will probably be arrests
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And I understand if this is too risky
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I love the state house Check out the spelling on oversight
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Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 2:17 PM
I guess it was an oversite
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@pickles- they/them (mel) you’re on the screen when Miss Dana shifts around ✨
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Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 2:18 PM
The gall on these people demanding quality education when they can’t even proofread their bills (there’s a provision that would make my mother rip out hair) or broadcasts
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Anyone else’s link not working?
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The public links aren’t working rn
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It’s the main meeting though, rn it’s just an admin talking about their agency, what they’ve done, what they need, etc.
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/24/2023 2:31 PM
Hmm hopefully the k-12 subcommittee link will work
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Meanwhile, We’re gonna host an informal drop in space tomorrow night at 6 for folx who wanna practice testimony. Rapid Organizers hosting for South Carolinians to come process the state of the state address and prepare to give testimony When: 1.25.23 6-7:30 pm Where: Zoom- registration required What: State of the State Reaction Space and Testimony Practice Session Register in advance for this meeting: https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZUvfuqopzMtHdUdgeq6Li0vEcDwTHWYRvg5 After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the meeting.
Welcome! You are invited to join a meeting: State of the State Reflection Space . After registering, you will receive a confirmation email about joining the meeting.
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Lynnie (she/her) 01/24/2023 2:51 PM
Please tell people not to get up during break. Moms for Liberty just got into the building
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Nico (she/her) 01/24/2023 2:54 PM
@pickles- they/them (mel) if u could let people know on ur side of the room know
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these dorks just sat in front of us
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/24/2023 2:56 PM
Got it!
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I was able to get the website going on my laptop
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these dorks just sat in front of us
@Matt Cox he/him i rly wanna try out the training we practiced 😉
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Main committee ended, breaking and then going to subcommittee
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seb it/they 01/24/2023 3:50 PM
Even just reading these updates is exhausting
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Did I hear right? Did it pass through the subcommittee unanimously? I’m still doing a write up of the main meeting and heard something in the background
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ColorfulKnoll 01/24/2023 3:56 PM
Oh gosh
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/24/2023 3:56 PM
No nothing passed. The hearing hasn’t started yet
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It’ll start any minute now. We just signed up to testify and blocked a bunch of moms ii’d like to fight from sitting down
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ColorfulKnoll 01/24/2023 3:59 PM
I hope their children refuse to eat their food
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seb it/they 01/24/2023 3:59 PM
I hope their children make comments about how old they look unprompted
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I hope their children refuse to eat their food
Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 4:00 PM
As a parent this is one of the harshest curses known
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now I hear it starting
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/24/2023 4:05 PM
Starting
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im currently watching
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Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 4:06 PM
This is the hearing that was supposed to go at 1, right?
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/24/2023 4:06 PM
Yup
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Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 4:07 PM
Thank god for that conservative efficiency
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/24/2023 4:10 PM
Got word that the don’t say gay language was removed from the bill
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It still majority crt
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does anyone mind if i introduce myself as being from Organize Against Transphobia for this hearing
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Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 4:23 PM
As someone on the sidest of lines, I say hell yeah
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seb it/they 01/24/2023 4:24 PM
You should do it :)
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what do the white and yellow pins say?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/24/2023 4:25 PM
Do it
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does anyone mind if i introduce myself as being from Organize Against Transphobia for this hearing
DO IT
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what do the white and yellow pins say?
pickles- they/them (mel) 01/24/2023 4:30 PM
Support Public Education
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Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 4:30 PM
Is that you just sat down, @pickles- they/them (mel) ?
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/24/2023 4:30 PM
Ya!
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Support Public Education
you did good!
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Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 4:30 PM
Caught the tail end, well done!
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/24/2023 4:30 PM
Thank you I was nervous and I shoulda stayed up there
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You’ve been there for hours 😭 It was bad enough watching in an office, can’t event imagine being there for the tedium
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/24/2023 4:31 PM
Make ‘em drag my old bones off the podium
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Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 4:32 PM
I wanted to attack the "meritocracy" part, since that was literally a joke and I've read the satire novel where the term was coined
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Has anyone spoken in favor?
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crunch crunch
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George (He/They) 01/24/2023 4:41 PM
Nepitocracy (a portemontau of Nepotism and “Meritocracy”)
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Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 4:41 PM
Redundant, really^
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NICO!!!!
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Nico!!
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Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 4:43 PM
Get em Fae!
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Nico?
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Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 4:43 PM
ShoutOAT!
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Oh the person nico 💀 idk why I thought that was an acronym
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Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 4:44 PM
lol, sorry!
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Nico (she/her) 01/24/2023 4:44 PM
Yeah lol
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ShoutOAT!
i gotchu (:
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Nico (she/her)
Yeah lol
So, what does nico stand for ??? The people demand answers
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Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 4:46 PM
Not Interested in Continuing...Ossification...?
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Hell yeah, someone sign her up (edited)
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awww is someone upset
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common moms for liberty L
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24 to 1 opposed
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24 to 1 opposed
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/24/2023 4:57 PM
i have lost track of today thats what we wanted right?
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yes
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/24/2023 4:57 PM
yay
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do SC comittees have the power to veto? or is this just effectively a do not pass recommendation
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think that's a @pickles- they/them (mel) question
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do SC comittees have the power to veto? or is this just effectively a do not pass recommendation
pickles- they/them (mel) 01/24/2023 5:00 PM
Governor is the only one who can veto. Committees vote to pass a “favorable” or “unfavorable” report on a bill.
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Wait what's the hearing about
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/24/2023 5:00 PM
Next step is full committee.
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I've been super busy recently
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seb it/they 01/24/2023 5:01 PM
it's for a don't say gay/anticrt bill
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/24/2023 5:01 PM
summary in #announcements (edited)
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/24/2023 5:01 PM
If it’s passed out of full, it’ll go to the house floor for 2nd reading. Third reading it passes the house and onto the senate to lather, rinse, repeat
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ColorfulKnoll 01/24/2023 5:01 PM
Good win, hopefully the winning continues onto the full committee
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Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 5:01 PM
There will be other hearings, right?
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Don't table it, toilet it!!!
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/24/2023 5:02 PM
Yes there will be other hearings. We can do a sc lawmaking 101 with y’all if that would help! Doing a train the trainers
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That’s way more succinct than what I was typing 😭
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seb it/they 01/24/2023 5:04 PM
react to this thumbs up if you'd like a SC lawmaking 101 class (edited)
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if there is another hearing I’d be willing to speak on this bill with enough notice
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Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 5:04 PM
this woman makes me want to peel myself like a banana
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/24/2023 5:05 PM
Motion to table failed 2-4
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Now they vote to pass or not pass
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Bill passes
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Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 5:07 PM
sonovafascist
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seb it/they 01/24/2023 5:07 PM
based on our preliminary number of thumbs up i think it's a good idea to set up a class @pickles- they/them (mel) what materials/etc would you need for this
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Tabling would have been nice ;-;
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Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 5:08 PM
toileting would be better
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George (He/They) 01/24/2023 5:09 PM
Which bill is this about?
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George (He/They)
Which bill is this about?
ColorfulKnoll 01/24/2023 5:09 PM
Critical race theory and lgbt ban in schools
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Matt Cox he/him 01/24/2023 5:10 PM
Good job everyone. Shame truth did not out
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No one said fighting Moloch would be easy, but damn
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Which bill is this about?
ColorfulKnoll 01/24/2023 5:11 PM
H.3728 for the number
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George (He/They) 01/24/2023 5:12 PM
Where does the bill from here? Does it go to the senate, or the governor, or the courts, or what? (edited)
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First it goes to the full education committee, then the house, if passed then out to senate and the process repeats
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George (He/They) 01/24/2023 5:20 PM
I see. Thanks for the info. I never wanted to learn about these processes work like this (edited)
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Dw it’s hell, you’re better off
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Hayden (he/they) 01/24/2023 7:42 PM
#greenscreenvideo #adamandevestores #adamandeve #garden #christianity #senator
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Reminded me of today (edited)
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based on our preliminary number of thumbs up i think it's a good idea to set up a class @pickles- they/them (mel) what materials/etc would you need for this
Hayden (he/they) 01/24/2023 7:43 PM
I think a discord call with a screen-shared PowerPoint could work
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based on our preliminary number of thumbs up i think it's a good idea to set up a class @pickles- they/them (mel) what materials/etc would you need for this
pickles- they/them (mel) 01/24/2023 9:32 PM
No materials needed for the training except a way to connect if virtual. Would zoom work?
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This abortion ban bill just dropped. It’s a ban with exceptions. Gonna be heard in house judiciary subcommittee on Thursday 9a https://www.scstatehouse.gov/agendas/125h12734.pdf
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No materials needed for the training except a way to connect if virtual. Would zoom work?
seb it/they 01/24/2023 9:37 PM
Yep zoom would work :) is there a day that works for you?
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Matt Cox he/him 01/25/2023 9:07 AM
Hey folks, I'm working on preparing a statement for the next hearing on H 3278. I had some questions: 1.) Given the scope of the bill and the minute allotment of time we are each given to present all our feelings on the bill, do we want to coordinate what we say, identifying as OAT so we can cosign each objection without taking up our whole time? 2.) Do we want to have the first speaker issue their statement explaining what we are doing so everyone who comes after can say, "I'm Matt with OAT" and therefore identify what we are doing and connecting all of our grievances? 3.) Should we point out that the last hearing saw speaker after speaker identify real world fears and effects that are already happening and then the vote went the same as it was going in? 4.) Should we add something else, since this is all the things I would like to say but can't cram into a minute? I could write fifteen one-minute pieces on how this bill is a tub of shite and still not get everything in, but we are only allowed enough time to say "me like/me no like" 5.) If anyone wants to see if I'm going a little too hard (since I will be identifying as OAT, I'll tone it down, but frankly facepunching would be kinder than this garbage deserves) here's the link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11nUgfZCdtJtwEJQ16yNFuV_YwgHTyC96jexllz09wxY/edit?usp=sharing Thanks, all!
At the last hearing, it was made clear that part of this bill’s purpose is to prevent children from feeling “responsible” for the actions of their forebears. I would like to address that in my brief time allotted. First, while this has come up over and over in various contexts, I have never hear...
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It's too long now, and I will be editing it today, but I welcome comments and suggestions on how to cut it down without losing its impact
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It's too long now, and I will be editing it today, but I welcome comments and suggestions on how to cut it down without losing its impact
pickles- they/them (mel) 01/25/2023 9:08 AM
Hey! If they’re moving according to procedure, there won’t be anymore opportunities for public testimony
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Matt Cox he/him 01/25/2023 9:08 AM
sonovafash
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/25/2023 9:08 AM
They only time the public can make comments is firing subcommittee unless it’s a special thing.
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Matt Cox he/him 01/25/2023 9:09 AM
well. poop.
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/25/2023 9:09 AM
That’s some of the stuff we cover in the lawmaking 101 training
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It’s infuriating and confusing
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The process is designed to keep us out
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Matt Cox he/him 01/25/2023 9:09 AM
Ok. I will keep this, as no doubt crushing accurate education will come up again
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And I may send it as a letter to Landing since she's the one who cried about the poor widdwe white boys
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Ok. I will keep this, as no doubt crushing accurate education will come up again
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/25/2023 9:34 AM
we can use a similar method for the next bills if you want too,
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seb it/they
Yep zoom would work :) is there a day that works for you?
seb it/they 01/25/2023 9:34 AM
Bumping this so we can work on setting that up
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@pickles- they/them (mel)
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we can use a similar method for the next bills if you want too,
Matt Cox he/him 01/25/2023 9:34 AM
If that meets with approval. I don't want to tie anyone to my angry bullshite.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/25/2023 9:35 AM
i have a written statement prepared for h3730/s274 i wouldnt mind people critiquing, but its obviously very personal so im only going to share it closer in
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seb it/they 01/25/2023 9:35 AM
I think it's a good idea
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i have a written statement prepared for h3730/s274 i wouldnt mind people critiquing, but its obviously very personal so im only going to share it closer in
Matt Cox he/him 01/25/2023 9:35 AM
Feel free to DM me and I will keep it priv
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/25/2023 9:35 AM
yeah i trust you
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i have to digitize it first
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Matt Cox he/him 01/25/2023 9:35 AM
That means a lot. Take your time, I'm here.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/25/2023 9:36 AM
i wrote it in a solid and unbroken fit of rage i barely remember what it says
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Matt Cox he/him 01/25/2023 9:41 AM
If I can just take a moment to mention how much it has meant that everyone here has made space for me and brought me into the fold without reservation. There is every reason to hold ourselves closed and guard against vulnerability, but that is not what I have seen. All of you have had a world of shit heaped on your heads, but you've allowed me to share this struggle and these actions with you, and I pledge I will do everything I can to make your cause mine and laugh, cry and bleed with you. I really cannot express what it means to me. Thank you all, and I swear to you I'm here till the war is won.
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Yep zoom would work :) is there a day that works for you?
pickles- they/them (mel) 01/25/2023 10:48 AM
Lemme check with the team and get back. We could probably do it as early as Friday
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How much lead time y’all need?
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We can also do it on Friday, it really depends on when folks are free
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How long would it be?
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Probably next week is better just to give some time to advertise about it
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 01/25/2023 10:50 AM
if its a weekday lets also not do before 5pm (edited)
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weekday*
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/25/2023 10:50 AM
60-90 mins
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How about next Friday at 5:30?
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pickles- they/them (mel) 01/26/2023 7:34 AM
Next Friday 5:30 works! Should I invite the Cofc tsa?
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They have a meeting tonight
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Next Friday 5:30 works! Should I invite the Cofc tsa?
i will be plugging that in tonight’s meeting for sure
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pickles- they/them (mel)
Next Friday 5:30 works! Should I invite the Cofc tsa?
seb it/they 01/26/2023 7:45 AM
I think they're in here already, but definitely also invite them
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seb it/they 02/03/2023 6:05 PM
Is anyone at the strike rn?
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I'm across the street and don't really see anyone
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Is anyone at the strike rn?
ronnie (he/him) 02/03/2023 6:05 PM
Yes
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We left
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seb it/they 02/03/2023 6:05 PM
Oh okat
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Damn ://
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ronnie (he/him) 02/03/2023 6:05 PM
At the staging location
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Still around if you wanna drop by and see people!
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we almost got ruined by the train :o
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seb it/they 02/03/2023 6:06 PM
Walking down there rn
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ronnie (he/him) 02/03/2023 6:06 PM
TRAIN!!!!! 🚂
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At the staging location
wing zone
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Love going to the statehouse for some lobbying and seeing state troopers staging in riot gear
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there's even more inside : (
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They’ve been there since before I got there at 8 today, it’s ridiculous
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Extremely silly
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Hayden (he/they) 02/08/2023 3:27 PM
Probably anticipating a bad response
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I wish I got to play dress up at work
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WhichWitch17 02/08/2023 3:27 PM
oh good, i knew there was a reason i shouldnt have gone today
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fuck that id be so anxious the whole time
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if i wasnt with folx earlier i would've left
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/08/2023 3:29 PM
I dont get out of class till 4:30
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That’s part of the idea in having them there, surely 🗡
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/08/2023 3:29 PM
I guess its probably not worth going
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If its almost over
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it did just start at 3
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they pushed it back smh
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/08/2023 3:30 PM
Is there commentary today
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Public commentary
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Literally never be afraid of showing up late to state house things Legislators set their own schedules and STILL can’t show up on time
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Is there commentary today
@pickles- they/them (mel) question
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/08/2023 3:31 PM
Im just tired : (
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I dont know if i can walk to the capitol today
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It’s extremely hot in the gallery
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/08/2023 3:32 PM
Is this the room with the tiny 2nd floor gallery
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pickles- they/them (mel) 02/08/2023 3:33 PM
This is the chance to try to pull senators off the floor and tell them to vote no on abortion ban
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This building is so disorienting
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Just make sure you stay in the centre areas, most wings have nothing relevant/accessible, all the big talk is in the upstairs lobby. The bright side is it’s symmetrical, downside is . . . it’s symmetrical
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 02/08/2023 4:24 PM
I am in too much pain, good luck
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seb it/they 02/14/2023 1:39 PM
@Midlands SC Please come and join us to mourn the murder of Brianna Ghey on Wednesday February 15th on Russell house patio on campus
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seb it/they 02/15/2023 8:51 PM
thanks to everyone who attended and helped with the vigil, if you have any questions about action, or need support don't hesitate to reach out transheart
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Anyone gonna be in atl or have contacts in GA this monday?Monday? I've been asked if I know anyone because they are worried about violence from counter protestors
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I can try and ask around
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Carpool?
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Will (He/Him) 03/20/2023 8:00 PM
Does anyone know when the next legislature session for H. 3728 is?
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Hayden (he/they) 03/20/2023 8:02 PM
There are no mentions of it on the current house schedule
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If you go to this visual nightmare and click "printer friendly" in the lower right it will bring up the house schedule
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I just ctrl+f with bill numbers
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But be warned, it does change often
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Pls show up to this if you can
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Sam McKenzie 03/20/2023 8:33 PM
Oh shit
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seb it/they 03/20/2023 8:34 PM
sam if you come in full drag i will love you forever
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also feel free to spread the graphic around y'all transheart
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Sam McKenzie 03/20/2023 8:35 PM
Now that's a thought
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seb it/they 03/20/2023 8:35 PM
pre-birdcage
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Could we get a discord event for the tpusa meeting just to get an idea of minimum numbers?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/20/2023 10:17 PM
FUCK TRANSPHOBIA lets talk about
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Take my interest as a maybe, I have a meeting at six that could go long and work at 8, but I should be able to be there for the middle bit
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Ken (they/them) 03/21/2023 9:12 AM
I’ll be there along with my partner and a couple of friends 🫶🏽
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REMINDER FOR ANY IN PERSON ACTION Don’t go alone. Have someone to come with and someone to leave with. Have a plan for leaving. Cover your face. Masks will be provided but bring your own if you can. Know you’re probably going to be on camera. For this action in particular, it would be beneficial to us not to provoke direct physical confrontations, but know there’s a possibility of the other side physically confronting us and have a plan for if that’s the case.
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Does anyone have de-escalation training?
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We should have someone at the door reminding people to be chill
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We should have someone at the door reminding people to be chill
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/21/2023 10:44 AM
definitely
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Room 205 has 40 seats and a wall of windows so if we get kicked out we can post up outside them
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Me and liv will be doing doorperson stuff and reminders to chill tf out
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Does anyone have de-escalation training?
I do, and I'm the right demographic to order the right wingers to back down
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If only situations were all that simple lmao
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I actually don’t expect tp to go in swinging if we don’t, they left a comment on sodacityqueers’ post about the event
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Not that we ought be civil with fascists but their messaging indicates they intend to be civil with us
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Ahh, so it's just gonna be other college kids probably turn into a "debate me bro" type of environment, you think?
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i honestly have no idea how to read that comment
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James Harley 03/21/2023 1:06 PM
If there civil that at least helps. (edited)
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They’re going into it planning to act like trolls i imagine
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/21/2023 1:07 PM
Lol that's their forte. They'll record someone talking and plaster it all over the internet.
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Ahh, so it's just gonna be other college kids probably turn into a "debate me bro" type of environment, you think?
That’s TP From what I’ve seen of them this year, they’re not very aggressive. They seem to want to be respectable and then do that annoying trolling stuff that isn’t quite hostile but has plausible deniability on rudeness to a random person not versed in these issues
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Wish we had infiltrators in tp
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The desire to see the fascist group chat
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I imagine Ben Shapiro type interactions, very annoying punchable faces
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The desire to see the fascist group chat
It probably wouldn't have been difficult if we had thought about it earlier (edited)
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Wish we had infiltrators in tp
Camryn Aisling 03/21/2023 1:12 PM
I did that for a while a couple years back. Generally not very interesting except for the scheduling channel.
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Always good to have a few eyes and ears in those types of spaces
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if it is the ben shapiro style thing, iirc the whole secret is they have you say your piece, then respond with something that mainly sounds correct to their audience even if it is very tangential, and take the mic from you while they're doing that so you can't interrupt them.
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There won’t be a microphone, the room will be small
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if it is the ben shapiro style thing, iirc the whole secret is they have you say your piece, then respond with something that mainly sounds correct to their audience even if it is very tangential, and take the mic from you while they're doing that so you can't interrupt them.
Oh yeah, Shapiro is the worst at debating lmao
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Camryn Aisling 03/21/2023 1:19 PM
Could always bring your own mic and amp
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they're also gonna be on the backfoot because they weren't planning for a big event, just their normal little thing
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Could always bring your own mic and amp
uscpd tends to dislike when we use amplification, indoors will likely be less popular (edited)
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Especially if it’s an indoor space
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Would prefer to avoid negative (or any) interactions with law enforcement
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Camryn Aisling 03/21/2023 1:21 PM
I just looked at the map and realized 205 is across from the ballroom
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And is not, in fact, the ballroom
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It’s just a regular meeting room at the end of the hall
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Camryn Aisling 03/21/2023 1:21 PM
Which, uh, negates the need for a microphone
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yep! it's small, maybe 400 sq ft total. 40 seats, I tihnk our goal is to fill them all
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/21/2023 1:23 PM
Do we need to tell ppl to get there even earlier if they can? Or nah?
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So their meeting time is 7:15 (edited)
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Arriving at 6:45 gives us plenty of time to pack the room
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/21/2023 1:23 PM
But they know that we know that they know that we know /hj
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If you really want to ensure that you’ll have a seat, be there at 6:30 I guess
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/21/2023 1:25 PM
Yeah, I just didn't want us to show up at 6:45 and they've already filled the room. Idk how big they are either, so
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Also, tbc, I'm saying "we" but I won't be able to attend. Just so there isn't any confusion
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They get maybe 30 people when they bring in a guest speaker
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Not small but it’s possible for us to outcompete them
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Especially with how relatively chill this is shaping up to be, I’m somewhat disappointed that IRIS doesn’t want to have any official involvement
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Oh yeah, might be worth mentioning: do not talk about destroying posters if you think there could be an undercover reporter for the local right wing newspaper recording you. Probably too specific to be useful but that's what happened to SDS at Clemson and made them have to disband...
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Especially with how relatively chill this is shaping up to be, I’m somewhat disappointed that IRIS doesn’t want to have any official involvement
On a personal level, I am too, but it’s our President’s decision and Ray has made it clear he doesn’t want the IRIS name associated with this. It’s still in our server and people who are also in IRIS will hopefully be there, though.
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Arnold Karr 03/21/2023 3:04 PM
I'll be there, if nothing prevents me.
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If you really want to ensure that you’ll have a seat, be there at 6:30 I guess
seb it/they 03/21/2023 3:06 PM
i will be in russel very early
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Logan (he/him) 03/21/2023 6:30 PM
Haven't been super active in this chat lately but im goin too
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Where do I sign up for tonight?
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You don’t NEED to sign up (rsvp’ing for protests is generally a bad idea) But it’s in the events tab (edited)
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The event tab for this is purely to get an expected head count so we know how many to expect
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Someone suggested it in the announcements. Glad it's not necessary.
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yeah i suggested it so we can get a vauge headcount for water etc
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George (He/They) 03/22/2023 3:24 PM
Just a heads up/warning, turning point knows that we will be there tonight so plan accordingly
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seb it/they 03/22/2023 3:54 PM
Yeah we're aware, show up a bit early
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Russel House staff has also found out what’s happening and there will be a lot of professional staff in the building in case anything happens. If anything happens, our queer coordinator for OMSA has their number available to the IRIS board and will be willing to defend our side as long as we’re not the ones starting anything. (IRIS is not officially involved in this, but several of our members will be in attendance as part of other organizations they're a part of) (edited)
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Honestly Russ staff being there makes me feel better because they’ll be watching the TP’s as much as us
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Arnold Karr 03/22/2023 4:04 PM
Don't let them think you're afraid of them.
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seb it/they 03/22/2023 4:05 PM
Also the Russell house staff has repeatedly tried to shut down and incapacitate our protests in the past
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Including extremely by the book ones, I would be wary of them
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A pallet of 24 water bottles has been left by the entrance to Russell 205 (edited)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/22/2023 4:14 PM
anyone got any favorite pro-trans studies
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im loading my laptop with FACTS and LOGIC in case they just go all debate bro mode (edited)
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That seems to be their current strategy
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Hayden (he/they) 03/22/2023 4:18 PM
They will def pull up the detransition one
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/22/2023 4:18 PM
ive got some ones against that
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An increasing number of transgender minors are seeking help during the development of their gender identity and transitioning. Understanding their cha…
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BACKGROUND AND OBJECTIVES. Concerns about early childhood social transitions among transgender youth include that these youth may later change their gender identification (ie, retransition), a process that could be distressing. The current study aimed to provide the first estimate of retransitioning and to report the current gender identities of...
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Lol I might sit in 205 and play guitar for a few hours to kill the waiting mode if anyone wants to stop by
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/22/2023 4:19 PM
92% continued transition rate
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with a portion of the other 8% still being non-binary in some fashion
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Post the one about how most people who detransition do it because of financial reasons / social pressure
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/22/2023 4:20 PM
if someone can link it ill save it
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Of those who had detransitioned, 82.5% reported at least one external driving factor.
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A total of 15.9% of respondents reported at least one internal driving factor, including fluctuations in or uncertainty regarding gender identity.
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Conclusion: Among TGD adults with a reported history of detransition, the vast majority reported that their detransition was driven by external pressures. Clinicians should be aware of these external pressures, how they may be modified, and the possibility that patients may once again seek gender affirmation in the future.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/22/2023 4:23 PM
got it
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found the best article we can go home now
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Hayden (he/they) 03/22/2023 4:29 PM
Also the 14 points
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seb it/they 03/22/2023 4:31 PM
I'm about to be on my way
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Give me like ~45 mins
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Hayden (he/they) 03/22/2023 4:35 PM
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/22/2023 4:41 PM
The Classic
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robin (they/it) 03/22/2023 4:49 PM
guy with these outside russel
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Hayden (he/they) 03/22/2023 4:50 PM
Oh boy I'd love to ask about star forming regions lol
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I got a different one, what a fun guy with good opinions
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guy with these outside russel
I always tell transphobes: All mainstream sciences and modern studies support trans rights, facts over feelings, snowflake.
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I got a different one, what a fun guy with good opinions
robin (they/it) 03/22/2023 4:56 PM
i guess he has more than one thought
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robin (they/it)
guy with these outside russel
if you tell him you believe in Jesus he gives you a second called Does Real Truth Matter?
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if you tell him you believe in Jesus he gives you a second called Does Real Truth Matter?
Is it this one?
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Oooh I must be slaying the conservative girlie game today
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George (He/They) 03/22/2023 5:00 PM
“We’re just asking questions”
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he asked me if I was reborn and when I said no he looked really disappointed in me
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George (He/They) 03/22/2023 5:00 PM
It’s just the street interviewer version of “it’s just a prank bro (edited)
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I'm unborn transheart
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
anyone got any favorite pro-trans studies
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1mlwibC9mebi3b3UVnFBE2IGqyxclV9Rk?usp=share_link my archive of pro-trans studies for anybody who needs ammo CW: everything nasty any transphobe has ever said (edited)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/22/2023 5:16 PM
They’re doing it
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robin (they/it) 03/22/2023 5:22 PM
does it say "trans people are fucking" ?
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This is right across from 205, by the way
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They moved a concert indoors due to weather
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Decorating
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cade (he/him) 03/22/2023 5:29 PM
not a heated debate next door to an indoor concert 😭😭😭
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Cass (she/her) 03/22/2023 5:30 PM
Enhance
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There’s an event happening from 6-7 in Russell 205 but they have allowed us to keep our decorations up
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/22/2023 5:45 PM
Someone make them some brownies or something
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cade (he/him) 03/22/2023 5:46 PM
true allies (edited)
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would you say it’s too early to head over I know some people said 6
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Oh my fuck, if we get food at this event, that'd be super based lmao
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Russell has given us room 305 as a cool down room
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If you become triggered or retraumatized in the course of attending the Tpusa meeting, you can go up there. Tp people aren’t allowed in that room
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Hayden (he/they) 03/22/2023 5:50 PM
I'm happy to escort people up there if need be
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George (He/They) 03/22/2023 5:56 PM
Can one of y’all escort me?
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Are you trying to get escorted to Russell
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George (He/They) 03/22/2023 5:57 PM
Yes
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Where are you now?
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George (He/They) 03/22/2023 5:58 PM
I’m walking to the entrance between Panera and the book store
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Ok, I’ll come down and grab you
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Camryn Aisling 03/22/2023 5:58 PM
I've got another study if anyone wants it It's about the positive effects of puberty blockers on mental health and the resultant decrease in lifetime suicidal ideation https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/145/2/e20191725/68259/Pubertal-Suppression-for-Transgender-Youth-and#T3
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I’m at the entrance
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Camryn Aisling 03/22/2023 5:59 PM
I definitely expect puberty blockers to be brought up since that seems to be the current big target for the right
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Russell has given us room 305 as a cool down room
seb it/they 03/22/2023 6:00 PM
The cool down room has been moved to the lobby area on floor 3, but TPUSA will still not be allowed
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Cool down area is so funny does tpusa get one we aren't allowed in
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/22/2023 6:05 PM
Not to our knowledge
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We’re allowed in their space and they aren’t allowed in ours 🥰
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There’s also somewhat loud country music happening next to us
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Almost home. Gonna throw something in my face then roll up to the college, feel like I'm too old to be at a college 🤣🤣
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When we get in the room We should fill in the seats at the front first. Take up space, force them to look at us (edited)
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If you've got a bag set it in the seat next to you so we fill the room faster
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robin (they/it) 03/22/2023 6:18 PM
gathered outside the room until the current meeting is over
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/22/2023 6:18 PM
we're singing folk songs : )
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robin (they/it) 03/22/2023 6:18 PM
2 transphobes waiting too
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we're singing folk songs : )
A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/22/2023 6:20 PM
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Ima bring a box of stickers
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WhichWitch17 03/22/2023 6:32 PM
Running a bit late but hoping to be there in 10
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TP count is now 3
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One is conspicuously eating chuck fil a
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How many transgenders are present currently
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Me and Logan walking there now
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seb it/they 03/22/2023 6:40 PM
305 is actually clear
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Lol sorry about the confusion
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WhichWitch17 03/22/2023 6:44 PM
Btw I’ll also be happy to take anyone to 305 if they need it
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notadaypersoneither 03/22/2023 6:52 PM
Omw running late
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@everyone meeting has moved to Russell house theater
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Nice, that space usually costs a rental fee
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@everyone meeting has moved to Russell house theater
A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/22/2023 7:01 PM
Please tell me it's bc we brought so many ppl and not them...
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/22/2023 7:02 PM
its for us : )
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we have 10:1
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There is a comically large number of gay people here
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/22/2023 7:03 PM
Lol fuck yes
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Ask them some questions they'd never ask themselves. Ask them why they are cishet.
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James Harley 03/22/2023 7:03 PM
It’s like pride in here!
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Ask every speaker their pronouns
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/22/2023 7:04 PM
Be just as polite as you can be about it, and mix in some of the "bless your heart" southernisms
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Nico (she/her) 03/22/2023 7:04 PM
Do we wanna put in announcements that it moved to the theater
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/22/2023 7:04 PM
done
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Apparently we don’t have a legal right to heckle
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The dean of students just misgendered somebody
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what the fuck
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Be aware that several people are recording
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More people here would be cool! Pull up to the Russell house theater if you aren’t here
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I'm ready to boo like a ghost
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/22/2023 7:13 PM
Y'all stay safe please 💜
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Dylan just called us groomers (edited)
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Victor (they/them) 03/22/2023 7:14 PM
Yeah please tw anything said by transphobes
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/22/2023 7:14 PM
Who's that?
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A-A-Ron (they/them)
Who's that?
Former Tpusa president
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/22/2023 7:17 PM
Looked at their insta story, someone near the back has cameras out in case y'all hadn't seen them in particular. On the left side of the theatre. (edited)
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James Harley 03/22/2023 7:18 PM
Everyone please stay calm, there filming, so go easy with our reactions, we don’t want any problems to escalate.
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WhichWitch17 03/22/2023 7:21 PM
Oh yeah lots of them are recording I’ve noticed
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Atticus (he/him) 03/22/2023 7:21 PM
Y’all stay safe out there and have a good time showing out at them. I wouldn’t have half the courage to be on camera doing anything like this, but it means a lot to see so many of you up there. ❤️
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Hayden (he/they) 03/22/2023 7:26 PM
Stand for the cross, kneel for the flags
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James Harley 03/22/2023 7:43 PM
Calm down everyone, we’re still getting our chance to speak. This is meant to be peaceful.
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tackysapphic 03/22/2023 7:47 PM
Is it still going on? I wasn’t able to make it, hope it’s not too bad
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It’s going pretty well from the look of it.
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Of course because I’m nice to them at tabling to get buttons, I get called on the second I raise my hand 💀
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Will (He/Him) 03/22/2023 7:50 PM
This a good idea to try to bring up?
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Let him cook
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Let him cook
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Will (He/Him) 03/22/2023 7:50 PM
The international Olympic committee says trans women can compete if they’re under a testosterone limit, is that good to bring up?
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Matt Cox he/him 03/22/2023 7:51 PM
bork bork bork
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Calm down everyone, we’re still getting our chance to speak. This is meant to be peaceful.
Oat points of unity #2:
We do not condemn the tactics that individuals in this movement choose to use to oppose queerphobia and transphobia, as long as they don’t compromise any of our other values or points of unity. Legislative action and direct action are different tools in the same toolkit. A diversity of tactics is key to our liberation
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I have to go to work, but good luck everyone and give them (respectful enough to not get kicked out) hell
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I have to go to work, but good luck everyone and give them (respectful enough to not get kicked out) hell
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notadaypersoneither 03/22/2023 8:36 PM
sorry I dipped out right after, but thank y'all for all being so kind and welcoming 💕
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Hayden (he/they) 03/22/2023 8:48 PM
Good show everyone
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That was nice, gave out almost all my stickers and gave someone a communist book lmao
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Everyone make it home safe!
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Logan (he/him) 03/22/2023 9:17 PM
Y'all didn't let their bullshit be unchallenged. Good job! Be proud of yourselfs!
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im home!
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Could we schedule a debrief on what went right / what we can do better in the future
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Logan (he/him) 03/22/2023 9:28 PM
What time would work for yall
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Home. Nekkid in bed lmao
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seb it/they 03/22/2023 9:45 PM
Thank you all so much
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Could we schedule a debrief on what went right / what we can do better in the future
seb it/they 03/22/2023 9:45 PM
I think at the mutual aid meeting is probably good, keep things consistent
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But also not everyone will be able to attend
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Camryn Aisling 03/22/2023 9:51 PM
Could someone write up a summary of what went down? I wasn't able to make it due to car trouble
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home and safe
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Could someone write up a summary of what went down? I wasn't able to make it due to car trouble
seb it/they 03/22/2023 9:57 PM
I don't have the energy rn but this definitely should happen, does anyone else have energy?
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I'll post it in the book discussion setting as well, but I wanted to mention A Critique of Pure Tolerance, an anthology of three philosophical essays on the concept of tolerance. Herbert Marcuse's "Repressive Tolerance" is particularly relevant to the guidelines the University attempted to impose on tonight's participants. Marginalized groups are not obliged to tolerate speech that denies their full humanity! "Power concedes nothing without a demand." Frederick Douglass "The more outrageous the demands, the more likely substantive concessions will eventually be made." Me (edited)
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My name is purple
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it was so funny that she had to try not to gender people by calling them "purple" or "blue hair"
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We really caught them unprepared
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Which is surprising because they had more time than we did to prepare
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Is that what she was doing? She did call one of her people "that dude" at one point, though I suppose dude is not gender specific these days.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/22/2023 11:12 PM
i think its probably part of it
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thats also pretty common for any audience participation though, "that guy" doesnt really help you direct the mic person
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They had to make sure the opportunity to make announcements and sign up for things closed before we knew about them, like making announcements that were outside the c3 limitations. Hypocrisy on Parade!
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/22/2023 11:15 PM
the whole thing was clearly run in a way to try and avoid us. the 2 days notice was very deliberate, since it takes 3 days to reserve a space. they knew we'd commit fuckery and try to sandwich their meeting with our own (very gay) events
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Can we hijack their next range day
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/22/2023 11:16 PM
this sounds like a bad idea
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So true
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Can we have our own range day
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/22/2023 11:16 PM
on one hand, yes, they are cowards
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Logan (he/him) 03/22/2023 11:16 PM
It'd be funny tho
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/22/2023 11:16 PM
on the other, lets not antagonize them when they're holding guns
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i dont want to find out if dylan has bad trigger discipline
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Can we have our own range day
You want one? Could do one in april. Also knowing where they are would be helpful for specifically avoiding them
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If they were good faith actors, they would have invited a panel of speakers on both sides of whatever they think the issues are, but they wanted to put a stick in people's eyes, not have an honest conversation. That's why acting out was the correct response. (edited)
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trolling them is always the correct response because you owe them nothing for being able to exist
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they know literally nothing about gender or sexuality outside of what hegemonic norms tell them and want to police those things? nah.
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That's true, but people who are struggling to understand deserve more respect. These children have no desire to understand anything.
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that's why I suggested asking them questions they won't ask themselves -- it helps them to truly understand, it concedes nothing, and it is the most fun use of your time
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/22/2023 11:25 PM
i did make at least some effort to educate them
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Yes we used facts and logic
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Unfortunately they never attempted to answer most of the questions. Maybe one or two will begin to have some cognitive dissonance.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/22/2023 11:25 PM
rattled off a few studies about the benefits of trans healthcare, although yes, mostly with intent to prove they arent willing to listen
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Idk if the goal was ever to sway them at least for me
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Logan (he/him) 03/22/2023 11:26 PM
I don't think it's a zero percent chance that some of them will change their minds w the seeds planted tonight
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it's not high but it's also not 0 lol
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Zenith (they/them) 03/22/2023 11:27 PM
We just wanted to disturb what would’ve otherwise been a goddamn echo chamber
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Idk if the goal was ever to sway them at least for me
we should always extend an arm for people to see the light, giving them some good info is one way to do that
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I don't think it's a zero percent chance that some of them will change their minds w the seeds planted tonight
Agreed: p>0.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/22/2023 11:29 PM
if it didnt involve having to talk to them i would try to send them the papers
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Lol we could send them a care package
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/22/2023 11:31 PM
"Hi! hope theres no hard feelings for your little meeting! btw, heres a bunch of studies on why everything you said is demonstrably wrong! love you besties xoxoxo"
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“Ps arm trans people”
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/22/2023 11:32 PM
come and take it (my estrogen) big gov (edited)
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Do it!
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The studies, I mean. We don't need any more cold, dead hands, if we can help it.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/22/2023 11:33 PM
im too tired for now, but if anyone else wants access to anything i cited tonight, heres my list https://docs.google.com/document/d/12dDpPqFZamaLu4m6c0YceJ3vmwoLd4STx2fKpeZfXpE/edit?usp=sharing
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Probably should have cw'd that last comment. I'm still learning.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/22/2023 11:35 PM
ive definitely said worse
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i wont say its always fine, cause im obviously not the queen of everyone's trauma, but the vague concept of death isnt (usually?) a big deal (edited)
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Yeah it's more like specific deaths and details
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the mention of them planning a CRT meeting at the end was quite on the nose, it’s like a “culture war” bingo
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tackysapphic 03/22/2023 11:37 PM
oh god they’re trying to do that??
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I have a lot of thoughts on the CRT issue, like for one it is A. simply a snappy term B. It’s not being taught in any K-12 public school, it is a higher level law concept C. The reason it is so “scary” is because it challenges a very specific worldview
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im too tired for now, but if anyone else wants access to anything i cited tonight, heres my list https://docs.google.com/document/d/12dDpPqFZamaLu4m6c0YceJ3vmwoLd4STx2fKpeZfXpE/edit?usp=sharing
Thanks. I'll check it tomorrow.
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Under their post on insta, the cognitive dissonance, cw: TPUSA gaslighting (edited)
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I hate to reflect that I was against the idea of this event early on. Mostly paranoia that it would get violent or we’d all get un trouble with the university. After seeing how it turned out I rly wanna thank all the ppl that pushed this.
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Congrats!!!! Im glad everything went well Couldnt go myself cause im sick
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Hopefully I'll start recognizing more of yall as we work together more instead of just knowing yall though the apps. I've been working accross the room from people who I don't remember their names for like 2 years 😫. But I was the redhead in the red shirt handing out stickers last night.
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I hate to reflect that I was against the idea of this event early on. Mostly paranoia that it would get violent or we’d all get un trouble with the university. After seeing how it turned out I rly wanna thank all the ppl that pushed this.
I was looking around before and after briefly because I was worried bout that fragile masculinity acting up. Was more chill then I thought, revealed those children to be actually children in their ideas.
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Yeah I was worried that Dillon in particular would fly off the handle. Doesnt seem the type to have a good temper
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Near the end
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Good to see in action that not only are they equally worried abt university standing but are also cowards who wont stand up for even their own beliefs
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George (He/They) 03/23/2023 12:03 PM
I questioned whether advertising this event to this channel and others was the right thing to do at first, but I can safely say that doing so was the right thing to do and I’m glad I did (edited)
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(just want to point out that there's nothing being wrong with a child)
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(children are cool and good, fascists are bad and not)
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Im also happy how many people there were students because the main thing here is making sure TPUSA knows the student body doesnt appreciate them
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cocky is canonically trans
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usc said trans rights
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Not exactly a protest but hows about we work on organizing a trans day of visibility celebration?
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i'd be down
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when is TDOV
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Friday 31st
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march 31
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I think SC united is doing one too
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maybe we should team up?
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Good to see in action that not only are they equally worried abt university standing but are also cowards who wont stand up for even their own beliefs
Bigots are always cowards and will not risk what they view as their "superior" life for an "inferior" one. They only act when there is a clear, guaranteed opportunity to do more harm than harm they recieve. In that situation, they could not act to risk their schooling or their physical well-being.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/24/2023 1:22 PM
so ive gone ahead and cleared my schedule on the 29th
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if i can get in, im gonna try to testify
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ColorfulKnoll 03/24/2023 1:25 PM
Hope there's more trans rights activist than not testifying
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Not excited to see who shows up as opponents
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/24/2023 1:26 PM
generic detransitioner from 8 states away probably
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ColorfulKnoll 03/24/2023 1:27 PM
The 0.1% of the 1%
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Clearly an accurate representation
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Sam McKenzie 03/24/2023 1:43 PM
I have an exam that morning, sadly. But I have a feeling the legislature will probably be more inclined to listen to medical professionals than trans people anyway. I think that's SC United's strategy
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ColorfulKnoll 03/24/2023 3:35 PM
Yeah pathos can only go for so long
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/25/2023 6:14 PM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bLnQ_himjrAXEvlFMfqD9aR5-IBHhkH4/view?usp=sharing i have uploaded the complete audio clip from 3/22 to the google drive
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robin (they/it) 03/25/2023 6:53 PM
^ new favorite podcast
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Oatcast when
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Moss (he/him) 03/26/2023 2:11 PM
If anyone in the charleston wider area needs a ride on wednesday**** not thurs (edited)
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James Harley 03/26/2023 2:12 PM
What is it?
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its a shit bill, dont get me wrong, but i dont get why the trans flags for an endangered species bill
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Moss (he/him) 03/26/2023 2:50 PM
Oop lemme ask them they definitely mean to go against one of the anti trans bill
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If anyone in the charleston wider area needs a ride on wednesday**** not thurs (edited)
Do they know what committee this is or the rooms or anything? I may be missing it, but I don’t see any relevant committees meeting that day with public testimony or that bill on the agenda
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Moss (he/him) 03/26/2023 3:08 PM
Room 209
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They’re going with some mental health professionals who have been tracking this as well, apparently it’s discussion is being squeezed in
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Subcommittee meeting on whether it’s thrown out or not. I dont understand this shit so following what they say o7
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Oop lemme ask them they definitely mean to go against one of the anti trans bill
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/26/2023 3:20 PM
this is a 2021 bill
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That’s another thing. Has it been brought up in another form during this current legislative session? There can’t be two concurrent bills with the same number as far as I’m aware And the 209 Medical Affairs meeting is in Gressette (the senate building) and that 2021 bill was left in the House. Also, the Medical Affairs meeting is on the 29th, a Wednesday. Correct me if I’m wrong on anything though, these are just cursory observations
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/28/2023 12:39 PM
i'm looking at the agenda @ https://www.scstatehouse.gov/agendas/125s13146.pdf. i'm a bit worried by the notes on public comments:
Individuals’ remarks must be limited to two minutes each [ ... ] Registration will be offered in one of four categories (maximum of 12 participants each) * S. 627 -- speaking FOR the bill * S. 627 -- speaking AGAINST the bill * S. 623 (Re: Doc. 5118) -- speaking FOR the bill * S. 623 (Re: Doc. 5118) -- speaking AGAINST the bill
they ask people wanting to testify to sign up via a google form which is no longer taking responses. Does this impact the plans for the in person protest tommorow? should we assume that we will be denied the opportinity to testify & prepare flags and signs to hold up in the room?
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers)
i'm looking at the agenda @ https://www.scstatehouse.gov/agendas/125s13146.pdf. i'm a bit worried by the notes on public comments:
Individuals’ remarks must be limited to two minutes each [ ... ] Registration will be offered in one of four categories (maximum of 12 participants each) * S. 627 -- speaking FOR the bill * S. 627 -- speaking AGAINST the bill * S. 623 (Re: Doc. 5118) -- speaking FOR the bill * S. 623 (Re: Doc. 5118) -- speaking AGAINST the bill
they ask people wanting to testify to sign up via a google form which is no longer taking responses. Does this impact the plans for the in person protest tommorow? should we assume that we will be denied the opportinity to testify & prepare flags and signs to hold up in the room?
The google form was closed apparently because the official sign up slots were already filled. So there should be people there on either side in the right amounts
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Well, the stated amounts. No amount of people for this bill is good 💀
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/28/2023 12:42 PM
for those who aren't signed up to testify, is there a benefit to showing up anyways? are we allowed to bring signs or flags or anything into the committe room?
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Hopefully the people for these bills are bogus experts from out of state.
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers)
for those who aren't signed up to testify, is there a benefit to showing up anyways? are we allowed to bring signs or flags or anything into the committe room?
If there are no-shows to speak, people can sign up to replace them. Also, as it says, you can submit testimony electronically
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And for those speaking against it, it always helps to have friendly faces at your back when you’re staring down a committee of people who are trying to ruin lives
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We also are allowed to sign up to speak if one of the people fails to show up. So having 100's of people show up to speak against the bills is still quite powerful.
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/28/2023 12:47 PM
okay. i'll try to go. do you know if we're allowed to bring signs into the room, in case we can't speak?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/28/2023 1:01 PM
you cannot bring signs onto the floor, you can bring the mto the lobby
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/28/2023 1:16 PM
oh also
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i'm looking at s623
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SECTION 2. The Department of Health and Environmental Control shall promulgate regulations concerning the affidavit referred to in Section 44-63-100(F) as added by this act
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neither this bill, nor the current bill posted on statehouse.gov (https://www.scstatehouse.gov/code/t44c063.php#44-63-100) has a subsection F
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…. see, that’s interesting because there’s currently legislation in the works aimed at dismantling DHEC into a series of other smaller departments or folding their various functions into existing departments (edited)
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So birth certificates could only be changed for intersex people within a year of birth and not for trans adults?
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/28/2023 1:19 PM
maybe??? i'm not sure
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the bill refers to a section that does not exist in the bill or the act as it currently stands* (edited)
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there's another bill, 364, that was introduced by the same senator. it seems to be almost word-for-word identical to s623, except the older bill (364) does have a section F. https://www.scstatehouse.gov/billsearch.php?billnumbers=364&session=125&summary=B&headerfooter=1
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So birth certificates could only be changed for intersex people within a year of birth and not for trans adults?
Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/28/2023 1:27 PM
the older bill allows for adults to change their birth certificate sex only after a doctor signs an affadavit certifying that the person has done grs:
(F) A petition for gender change must be accompanied by an affidavit on a form prepared by the Department of Health and Environmental Control from the petitioner and an affidavit from a licensed physician attesting that the petitioner has undergone a gender change procedure. The affidavits must both state that, as a result of the gender change procedure: (1) there has been a physical change to the person's biological sex that corresponds with the opposite biological sex; (2) medical treatment necessary to complete the gender change is complete except for ongoing procedures or treatments necessary to maintain the gender change; and (3) the gender change is permanent.
i think that's what the new bill (s623) is supposed to do? but like, this section is from s364.
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is this normal?
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Yeah, this can happen. Kind of went on a whole ramble that was more policy nonsense than anything, but basically bills get killed and replaced all the time as legislators negotiate for what they want.
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Seems like a lazy copy and paste job to take some stuff out, typical legislature stuff
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/28/2023 1:37 PM
dang
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that section is like, the whole way it affects trans people though
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Hayden (he/they) 03/28/2023 3:46 PM
Tom Corwin from P&C asked me if we will have people at the subcommittee tomorrow, and expressed interest in writing a story on OAT
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seb it/they 03/28/2023 3:48 PM
cool
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/28/2023 3:48 PM
oh also, it looks like the sponsor of the bill is also the chair of the medical committe.
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seb it/they 03/28/2023 3:48 PM
yeah, verdin is an asshole
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Danny ❤️
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/28/2023 3:49 PM
i did not know this
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danny? more like daddy
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i hope that's not innapropriate
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Hayden (he/they)
Tom Corwin from P&C asked me if we will have people at the subcommittee tomorrow, and expressed interest in writing a story on OAT
Hayden (he/they) 03/28/2023 3:58 PM
I told him we had people planning to be there and that a story about oat would need to prioritize the identities of people involved
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I’m not sure if I’m in the right building for the committee hearing??
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I’m not sure if I’m in the right building for the committee hearing??
Are you in Gressette?
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Gressette?
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I’m in the statehouse rn
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It’s that cluster of blocky grey buildings with the two ramps.
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If you’re looking from the state house towards the ramps and street, it’s the first building on the right and has Gressette carved above the door
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I’m in the statehouse rn
Oh yeah no, the meeting is in their office and committee spaces, not the state house itself
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Ohhhh ok
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Dingo (they/them) 03/29/2023 10:54 AM
;;; damn. I just finished getting all my stuff ready
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I'm a 20 min drive out; maybe someone can make a hippa argument though
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cause to be fair; You'd be violating a student's personal health records in a way if they don't want their parents to see that part of their record. I'm pretty sure laws around hippa still apply to minors
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Ok I made it to the overflow room
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It seems like one tactic that might work in the future is signing up in support of a bill and just no showing
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It looked like that happened this morning with some success
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what does that do
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what does that do
It makes it so they don’t have people there who got slots to speak. Supporters there could theoretically sign up to the stand by list to speak in support in place of no-shows, but as we saw today, there weren’t a whole lot of those compared to our groups
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/29/2023 11:49 AM
yeah, whiel also providing a degree of deniability vs using their spots to speak for us
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they cut a lot of testimony because of that today, but what are they gonna say if people just dont show? they dont know why we did it
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I will point out that I have been in quite a few public testimony hearings. Speakers regularly blow right past their time limits, they work in twice the number of speakers who signed up, etc., and it’s just fine when it’s law enforcement or business interests or their donor friends. They simply don’t want to hear us and what we have to say.
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/29/2023 12:53 PM
is there a requirement that they open the comitte to public comment?
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like beyond optics, what's stopping the chairmain from just saying "we won't be hearing from the public on this" or telling people "you have to testify for the bill or you can't show up"
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So I just want to make sure I've been keeping up with events properly: since the one in December, how many other anti-drag protests have there been in the state?
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Hayden (he/they) 03/29/2023 3:06 PM
There's been a few in Greenville
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I'm sure a search of this discord might help
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pickles- they/them (mel) 03/30/2023 9:55 AM
Hey folx! I noticed OAT is planning a TDoV event at the statehouse. Are y’all coordinating with transgender awareness Alliance? They have this happening.
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There are so many statehouse events tomorrow lmao
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pickles- they/them (mel) 03/30/2023 9:55 AM
Lol
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there are at least 3 different ones afaik
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seb it/they 03/30/2023 9:56 AM
we've been trying to talk to @justintime but don't have very much information, i think they are working with sc pride people about it?
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pickles- they/them (mel) 03/30/2023 9:56 AM
There’s a film screening tonight if anyone wants to go. I’ll make an event
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seb it/they 03/30/2023 9:56 AM
i probably can't make it bc i have group project meetings :/
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/30/2023 12:24 PM
I'm bringing at least 2 people with me to the statehouse tommorow from charleston
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i think i'm probably going to leave at 8/9 am? but not sure. it's kindof flexible
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/30/2023 1:45 PM
Im going to make a post about everything going on tomorrow
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pickles- they/them (mel) 03/30/2023 3:05 PM
Is anyone who’s organizing statehouse events tomorrow willing to collab with transgender awareness Alliance? They’re legally liable for what happens on the grounds.
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seb it/they 03/30/2023 3:10 PM
@justintime
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pickles- they/them (mel)
Is anyone who’s organizing statehouse events tomorrow willing to collab with transgender awareness Alliance? They’re legally liable for what happens on the grounds.
Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 03/30/2023 3:19 PM
wdym by collab?
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pickles- they/them (mel) 03/30/2023 3:46 PM
Transgender awareness Alliance is hosting an event o. Statehouse grounds tomorrow. Are the other groups hosting events there willing to work together?
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No pressure if not, but it seemed like a good idea
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We’re both working with Queer Youth Assemble as apart of their national youth autonomy marches/rallies they’re doing tomorrow.
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pickles- they/them (mel) 03/30/2023 3:50 PM
If not collab, can the troops communicate?
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Groups not troops
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We figured we’d do a separate rally in the Upstate so there would be more turnout for anyone that can’t get to Columbia. If someone has their contact info I can reach out to them though.
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We figured we’d do a separate rally in the Upstate so there would be more turnout for anyone that can’t get to Columbia. If someone has their contact info I can reach out to them though.
pickles- they/them (mel) 03/30/2023 3:53 PM
Ah no not the Greenville one. I saw there were other events planned at the statehouse. Transgender awareness Alliance got a permit for the entire statehouse grounds and since they will be legally on the hook for the events
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Sorry didn’t mean to press send. They wanted to connect with the other organizers
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seb it/they 03/30/2023 3:55 PM
Justin time said they were coordinating something, but we haven't been in contact with them
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pickles- they/them (mel) 03/30/2023 4:02 PM
Right I DM’d them but haven’t gotten a response
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/30/2023 4:06 PM
I think that was the only other event we'd discussed? Or am I forgetting something?
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Is the one in Greenville still happening?
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Is the one in Greenville still happening?
Yes
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I plan on going
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Since I have time I’ll be at the statehouse from about 11 tomorrow. I’ll have med supplies on me especially since the trump indictment and the Nashville shooting just happened.
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If I can get home in time, I'll catch the end of it
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers)
i think i'm probably going to leave at 8/9 am? but not sure. it's kindof flexible
I’ll be there by noon
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robin (they/it) 03/30/2023 6:05 PM
i have class until 2 and so ill get there around 2
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Since I have time I’ll be at the statehouse from about 11 tomorrow. I’ll have med supplies on me especially since the trump indictment and the Nashville shooting just happened.
I have an oncology appointment at 8 in the morning but I can probably meet up with you then if I’m through!
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SC Pride posted my event so I’m hoping we’ll have a good turn out!
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pickles- they/them (mel) 03/31/2023 6:14 AM
Yaaaaaay!!!!
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Goood morning happy tdov
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Happy TDOV!
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We’re getting traction with WIS
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I am at the statehouse now with a guitar and a bag of medical supplies :3
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I am at the statehouse now with a guitar and a bag of medical supplies :3
I am grabbing some poké down the road then I’ll be on the way.
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 03/31/2023 12:52 PM
If any allies show up today...
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Sooo true
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 03/31/2023 1:04 PM
am i allowed to buy not-woman cool trans people a pizza? not that i can afford to
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Sure!
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The wind is so very windy
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Very family friendly chill little queer joy event happening at statehouse
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Honked at y'all because I don't have energy to be out there
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God speed
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tackysapphic 03/31/2023 6:18 PM
Passed y’all on my way in to work (btw arts and Draughts is tonight here at the museum if anyone wants to check it out!)
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seb it/they 04/04/2023 8:36 AM
@Drew do you want us to make a reminder announcement about the Candace Owens counter protest? Do you have any additional info about it?
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@Drew do you want us to make a reminder announcement about the Candace Owens counter protest? Do you have any additional info about it?
Yes please! I don't have more info, but I will say that if you want to attend the actual event, I recommend arriving around 6:15 bc tickets don't gurantee entry, so it looks like we won't be going to the counter-protest unfortunately. I'm planning to grill Candace on Palestinian or indigenous rights; I haven't decided yet lol
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i just got additional info through an email
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it also appears that the location is actually the memorial auditorium at tillman hall
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Yes, we're in there now
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AsterTheDisaster 04/05/2023 12:47 AM
What I learned from tonight's event: (tw transphobia) Apparently I'm a horrible evil backwards corrupt miserable destructive freak show who's going to burn in hell
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James Harley 04/05/2023 12:48 AM
I was told the same
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AsterTheDisaster 04/05/2023 12:55 AM
Nothing new
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Although some of the comments were from students not just Candace
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/05/2023 1:52 AM
ouch
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i’m really sorry you had to deal with their hate :(
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robin (they/it) 04/05/2023 8:23 AM
showcase your destructiveness and destroy their mom's bed /j
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candace owens faces hate too, she's being "socially lynched" by wikipedia /s
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AsterTheDisaster 04/05/2023 11:25 AM
She was literally calling climate change and transgenderism and all that jazz modern day slavery. How offensive
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There will come a time when people who speak that level of hate will regularly not be allowed to escape, not today, but it will come
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Backwards? That implies a history of which I'm unaware.
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George (He/They) 04/05/2023 1:11 PM
I had no idea that she just spoke at Clemson
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Hayden (he/they) 04/05/2023 1:15 PM
There were at USC in 2019 I think
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I went just to watch, quite funny
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/05/2023 1:19 PM
My question is, how do they keep getting speaking events at all these communist institutions?
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Hayden (he/they) 04/05/2023 1:20 PM
Also the event was a gun free zone
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Moving in here, free mom hugs will probably be interested in a queer moms/mom support/whatever we call it thing that day (edited)
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But the org is explicitly non partisan
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So we can't sell it as anti confederate
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Just by the books positive event
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My mom will get me into the FB groups for it later today so once we get a more concrete plan I'll sell it to them
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My mom will get me into the FB groups for it later today so once we get a more concrete plan I'll sell it to them
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/05/2023 5:08 PM
one you join the fb your mom arc is beginning
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Hayden (he/they) 04/05/2023 5:09 PM
It's what Bob Ross calls a happy accident
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So we can't sell it as anti confederate
I'd think that Mother's Day one is just to do something nice and get to block them. If we're blocking the other weekend, that one is probably a may day or anti-confederate thing if I'm following the conversation
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That's my read too I just wanted to make it clear for everybody what working with the moms means
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Hayden (he/they) 04/05/2023 5:39 PM
Are they going to apply for the permit?
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I can offer my table and cooler
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We should apply for the permit then bring them on
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We can do the permit if necessary. I'm at a computer right now and can start filling out the form, but we'd need a more concrete plan in terms of what's happening to fill it out. They want to know attendee numbers (we can ballpark), any props/equipment/decorations we're bringing, etc. (edited)
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Also, it's important to read all of their rules, consider what sort of things like electrical access we'll need to request and coordinate with facilities, etc.
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Probably speaker, sun shade, drinks
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so many etcs, but there's a lot that goes into it
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Also, feeling petty and might print out the form and deliver it to the address in person to ensure it can't get lost in the shuffle
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I have to be over in that area all the time anyway, may as well take a small detour
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Probably speaker, sun shade, drinks
great! Also, just a note, food/drinks can't be sold, but they can be given out for free. Can anyone think of any other groups we might want to see about reaching out to as this gets planned? I'm not super on top of who all we're working to get to know as far as #org-building goes
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Hayden (he/they) 04/05/2023 5:56 PM
Is there a similar mom advocacy group in Columbia?
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Im thinking we can use a table as a "write a card or make a sign for your mom" stand
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I'm still waiting to get accepted into midlands free mom hugs and upstate
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I know @WhichWitch17 has the phone number of a mom from that group and could get the ball rolling on at least the group that comes to USC if you're waiting a while (edited)
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nope not that morgan
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there we go
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WhichWitch17 04/05/2023 6:01 PM
yeah i do, if we wanna get the ball rolling soon i can always send something out
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We should at least get the permit request in first, if we're going to be bringing others in. Which part of the grounds would we want to reserve?
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Im thinking we can use a table as a "write a card or make a sign for your mom" stand
seb it/they 04/05/2023 6:02 PM
this should be like "a woman in your life"
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or something more general
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bc uhhhh....yeah no i'm not writing my mom a letter
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Even as general as someone who's supported you, perhaps
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seb it/they 04/05/2023 6:03 PM
yeah
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although i wouldn't be opposed to sending that love in a specifically femme direction, because that's also important
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I'll fill out a draft of the form with the basic info, screenshot it to share here, and then it can be finished at the mutual aid meeting on Monday?
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seb it/they 04/05/2023 6:06 PM
could you possibly also draft one for may day?
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Absolutely! For both of those, if it's to block the confederates, what part of the state grounds have the flag pole they like to use?
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seb it/they 04/05/2023 6:07 PM
@Hayden (he/they) knows better than i do
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/05/2023 6:09 PM
The front lawn has the pole (edited)
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The organisation information isn't required, did we want it to be an event with OAT's name or should we just have a person sign on as the organiser (the individual one is required)
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Hayden (he/they) 04/05/2023 6:09 PM
They use the north grounds
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I think doing it as OAT is good
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Needed: - Clear description of event purpose - Major items being brought - Organiser Info (someone to take responsibility for the event and be the point of contact between Admin/grounds and OAT) - Possible other points of contact during the event itself (can be different than the event organiser) (edited)
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And that's all that's needed for the form, after that it's the hard work of reaching out and coordinating and making it happen
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Same for May Day. It's not a super complicated form, we just need some details to be decided before we submit the requests.
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thanks you all the work Bernie!!!
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seems like after the meeting monday we circle back to the paperowrk?
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although honestly we could do something improntu before then so it gets done faster
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seb it/they 04/05/2023 6:32 PM
Yeah I think that's best
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Yep, those are just the questions we need to answer in the meeting, then the forms can be filled out and filed.
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seb it/they 04/05/2023 6:32 PM
(waiting to the meeting
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It may also give us time to hear back from mom groups, consider who we might partner with for May Day, and allow us to think about numbers at each event and the needs we're not considering now with more minds and time to think on it.
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George (He/They) 04/07/2023 12:07 PM
For those near Columbia, Far right activist Laura Loomer will be at USC on April 18th at 8PM (edited)
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well isn't that special
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Someone scan the ticket code to figure out what building she’s gonna be in
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George (He/They)
For those near Columbia, Far right activist Laura Loomer will be at USC on April 18th at 8PM (edited)
cade (he/him) 04/07/2023 12:16 PM
not this lady 💀
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Laura loomer is just straight up a Nazi
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cade (he/him) 04/07/2023 12:17 PM
this being organized by “uncensored america”
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BenjaminIsaac 04/07/2023 12:17 PM
that part in the carolina creed about discouraging bigotry just means nothing to anyone
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Hayden (he/they) 04/07/2023 12:17 PM
We are gonna get loomered 💀
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A speech about being the most censored woman in the world
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cade (he/him) 04/07/2023 12:18 PM
the most censored woman in the world….
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Invited by an organisation to a public university where she is a headlining speaker
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On April 18th, I will be speaking at the University of South Carolina! Get your tickets here! ⁦@UncensoredAm⁩ https://t.co/TLAaCk2Bkp
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cade (he/him) 04/07/2023 12:18 PM
cut to women persecuted from the protests in iran
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i’m the most censored woman in the world!!! come hear me openly speak about it on a stage
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WhichWitch17 04/07/2023 12:28 PM
i hate the rhetoric that these people claim that theyre "censored", its so ridiculous
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if you were truly being censored i dont think that youd be allowed to speak openly at a college-
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Laura actually has some claim to that lmao, she’s banned from food delivery services for being hugely islamophobic
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Which is good
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She should not be able to order food
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Because she is a fascist
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WhichWitch17 04/07/2023 12:29 PM
oh 100% agree
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The Republican candidate in Donald Trump’s congressional district is known for her long record of extreme racist statements, which have seen her banned from multiple online platforms
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WhichWitch17 04/07/2023 12:31 PM
that shirt- why
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Loomer also works with proud boys and has for the last five years
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WhichWitch17 04/07/2023 12:32 PM
and that surprises everyone here
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If you've paid attention to the rise of the radical right on the internet over the last few years, you know the name Laura Loomer.
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WhichWitch17 04/07/2023 12:33 PM
ok- i have a quetion
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What’s up?
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WhichWitch17 04/07/2023 12:33 PM
how does someone say theyre "proudly islamaphobic" and then have a shirt that says #stopthebias
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while not seeing the irony of that
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cade (he/him) 04/07/2023 12:38 PM
fast-talking auctioneer turned congresswoman
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i can’t find a video of her talking really fast on youtube like i thought i would
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Irabella (Leilah)(she/fae) 04/07/2023 12:44 PM
She's almost entirely irrelevant. Got laughed out of her election attempt in Florida, is cartoonishly antisemitic despite being jewish. Couldn't even chain herself to a pair of double doors properly. Meritocracy is a lie and the paid speaking / political punditry racket is the failson perpetual-motion machine.
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seeing these people fail so miserably and still getting propped up really gives me hope even if this whole "being a functional human being " thing doesn't work out, I can always become meme fodder masquerading as an inept right-wing pundit
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cade (he/him) 04/07/2023 12:49 PM
antisemitic despite being jewish… where have i heard that before…
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either0rgans 04/07/2023 12:49 PM
Didn't she like handcuff herself to Twitter hq and someone had a pizza delivered to her?
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George (He/They) 04/07/2023 12:53 PM
Shit someone saw me take one of the posters down
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George (He/They)
Shit someone saw me take one of the posters down
Hayden (he/they) 04/07/2023 12:56 PM
"I want to respect her identity as the most cancelled person alive"
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George (He/They) 04/07/2023 12:57 PM
Fuck it. Not gonna stop me from removing more. I do not kneel to fascists (edited)
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WhichWitch17 04/07/2023 1:01 PM
i can currently see one-
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on the second floor of russell
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seb it/they 04/07/2023 1:10 PM
I wonder if we can systemically remove the posters
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By Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan
The former president recently directed advisers to give Ms. Loomer, who has a long history of bigoted remarks, a role in support of his candidacy, people familiar with the move said.
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seb it/they 04/07/2023 1:11 PM
Make sure there are none up
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This is a recent development but she’s gonna be working for the trump campaign
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/07/2023 1:11 PM
Where are they posted @George (He/They)
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WhichWitch17 04/07/2023 1:13 PM
youre telling me Trump is hiring someone whos openly bigoted? this isnt something i ever thought would happen im so shocked /s
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That event is already on tough ground with the elevators
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
Where are they posted @George (He/They)
George (He/They) 04/07/2023 1:20 PM
I saw some in the Jones building
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
Where are they posted @George (He/They)
Harper (they/she) 04/07/2023 1:25 PM
Saw one in Wardlaw
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George (He/They) 04/07/2023 1:32 PM
I worry that I may have put I giant target on my back by getting caught taking one down. Hopefully that guy doesn’t remember my face (edited)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
Where are they posted @George (He/They)
WhichWitch17 04/07/2023 1:38 PM
There’s one on the cork board on the 2nd floor of Russell
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seb it/they 04/07/2023 1:39 PM
If y'all see them take them down :)
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WhichWitch17 04/07/2023 1:40 PM
Will do 🫡 (edited)
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Harper (they/she)
Saw one in Wardlaw
Same, but it’s right by a camera and either way, that would be wrong and illegal
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Unless someone did
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seb it/they 04/07/2023 2:17 PM
Is it actually illegal to remove posters? I feel like it's not
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You’re not supposed to take down or alter posters that aren’t yours, technically
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But who’s watching, really?
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seb it/they 04/07/2023 2:19 PM
But that's not a law?
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A law? I don’t think so, just uni policy
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seb it/they 04/07/2023 2:19 PM
Ah okay
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Hayden (he/they) 04/07/2023 2:19 PM
USC could throw a fit
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Idk if they could throw vandalism or destruction of property at you, but if someone cared they could probably do something at least at the university level
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Thankfully, most people don’t care or aren’t paid to care enough about it to bother
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Or will assume it’s your poster or you have a reason to do what you’re doing
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When in doubt, be confident
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Hayden (he/they)
USC could throw a fit
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Cocky coming after seb
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Trump told aides to hire far-right activist Laura Loomer, according to new reporting from New York Times. So who is Laura Loomer? We put together a list of all the terrible things she's said or done. A thread: https://t.co/p0VaVdkvX2
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George (He/They) 04/07/2023 3:50 PM
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3939649-marjorie-taylor-greene-warns-trump-against-hiring-laura-loomer/amp/ You know it’s bad when even Marjorie Taylor Greene of all people is warning about you. I wish I was fucking exaggerating (edited)
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) warned former President Trump against hiring far-right activist Laura Loomer, calling her “mentally unstable” and a “documented liar.”  Greene tweeted on Fr…
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seb it/they 04/07/2023 4:54 PM
@cara
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See above about Laura loomer
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TW: Laura Loomer islamophobia (edited)
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See above about Laura loomer
ty ty for lmk. hopefully we can show up or something
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Bernie
Idk if they could throw vandalism or destruction of property at you, but if someone cared they could probably do something at least at the university level
I'ma start walking around USC and taking down posters, and I'll dare them to take away my scholarship. 😤😤😤😤
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(I do not go to USC, I just live here)
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Caboose
(I do not go to USC, I just live here)
In the vents, I assume
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I live in a cave beneath the reflecting pool, I am a swamp creature
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Are you part frog
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90% frog
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Cyprus
Are you part frog
Yeah, my throat do that thing lmao
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And I eat bugs
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robin (they/it) 04/07/2023 5:36 PM
i saw caboose catch a wasp that one time i believe he eat bugs
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Mostly handfuls of ants. Because I get to feel em try to climb over eachother in my tummy (edited)
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Hailey (she/they) 04/07/2023 5:50 PM
There have been many nights where I have been awake and I felt the urge to go to the tcoop fountain and get frogs and I have
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I was walking through a park and saw an ant bed. I told my exes kid, "check it out, they're not red ants so they don't bite," and put my hand in the ants bed. I left it there for maybe 10-15 seconds. Looked like the Spiderman black suit was covering up to my forearm. Then I realized I was wrong, black ants do bite.
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Camryn Aisling 04/07/2023 6:11 PM
Yeah, all ants can bite
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Not all of them will sting
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(Most of them can, though)
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I used to know a lot more back when I was in the "study your enemy" phase of my phobia
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robin (they/it) 04/07/2023 6:19 PM
your profile image bamboozles me sometimes it is one color, sometimes a different colors, sometimes it is changing colors
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Camryn Aisling 04/07/2023 6:20 PM
Yeah, discord is weird about animated profile pictures now for some reason (edited)
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Mine got uploaded a long time ago before a bunch of changes
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So... it works weird
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Lynnie (she/her) 04/10/2023 9:26 AM
@Upstate SC save the date: April 19 is currently the expected date for a visit from DeSantis in Spartanburg. Venue and time still unknown. Stay tuned for updates as we organize around new info.
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@everyone ^ (edited)
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Lynnie (she/her) 04/10/2023 9:29 AM
Kimbrell is expecting to throw Ron a softball because they think the Upstate is only bigots. Would be nice to prove otherwise and depress the campaign before it even starts.
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/10/2023 9:29 AM
Our sheriff doesn't like outside agitators though /j
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robin (they/it) 04/10/2023 9:36 AM
could probably organize some carpooling when we know a little more
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got me a little collection from jones
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George (He/They) 04/10/2023 10:02 AM
They’re printing them in black and white now? 🤣
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Color is woke smh
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Roxy she/her 04/10/2023 10:24 AM
I have an SUV that I can contribute towards to carpooling effort
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Hailey (she/they) 04/10/2023 10:26 AM
I have a car that seats three other people comfortably and I can take people to carpool!
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robin (they/it) 04/10/2023 10:50 AM
i made an event for the desantis event we can update it as we get more info. but now that we have a date we can keep all the details in the same place.
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I looked it up to see if I could find any further details but all I can find is the same news story just reposted across a ton of different news outlets
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https://facebook.com/JoshKimbrellSC apparently this is the guy who is hosting/organizing the event (edited)
See posts, photos and more on Facebook.
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robin (they/it)
got me a little collection from jones
George (He/They) 04/10/2023 12:33 PM
These fuckers put more up. I had to take them down right outside my lecture hall in Jones
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They had them clustered in blocks like 1984 propaganda posters (edited)
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robin (they/it) 04/10/2023 12:58 PM
i found 4 in the same place and then one somewhere else
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it is also very possible i didnt see the ones you took down
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George (He/They) 04/10/2023 1:16 PM
They probably switched to Black and white so they can produce them more en masse
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/11/2023 2:42 PM
A little birdy took this down from curnell
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George (He/They) 04/11/2023 4:38 PM
I’ve been having a shit week so far so I took my frustration out on one of these evil ass posters by ripping it up in righteous anger and slamming it in the trash can where it belongs (edited)
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robin (they/it) 04/11/2023 4:41 PM
as you should
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comrade kalia (she/her) 04/11/2023 4:42 PM
i had to go on trial with the cofc Dean of students office for ripping down posters so be careful
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i didn’t get anything but probation bc im good at legalese and pretending to be a good christian b*y but it was a headache
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idk if usc does that kind of stupid shit tho
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George (He/They) 04/11/2023 5:08 PM
Well they’re letting her evil ass speak so I wouldn’t put that horseshit past them
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cade (he/him) 04/11/2023 5:42 PM
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would you like to make this an event
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cade (he/him) 04/11/2023 5:56 PM
i’d suppose so yes
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and i think? i have the ability to? the events tab has a create option for me but i’ve never used it before
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you should if youre an organizer
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cade (he/him) 04/11/2023 6:05 PM
done!
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comrade kalia (she/her)
idk if usc does that kind of stupid shit tho
Camryn Aisling 04/11/2023 7:38 PM
I never got in trouble for it, but that was a few years ago, so maybe things have changed since then
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Or maybe I was just good enough at dodging surveillance
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we have acquired at least 1 (one) mom for the mother's day event
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robin (they/it) 04/12/2023 1:43 PM
mom pog
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our permit is for the whole day right? were we planning to do stuff the entire time?
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someone asked what time the event will be at
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robin (they/it) 04/12/2023 1:44 PM
i think @Bernie knows that
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seb it/they 04/12/2023 1:44 PM
we were planning on starting at 11
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no ending time specified
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Olivia
our permit is for the whole day right? were we planning to do stuff the entire time?
We have from 8:30 - 4:30 including set up and tear down time
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I thought the start time was 10?
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Either way, we’re good for time
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seb it/they 04/12/2023 2:21 PM
I said 11 in the meeting but honestly either is fine
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pickles- they/them (mel) 04/12/2023 4:50 PM
Hey! I’ll be tabling at Grunge Prom in Columbia on Saturday starting at 5! Anyone wanna join?
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What are you tabling ? I can give some help maybe
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Lynnie (she/her) 04/12/2023 11:11 PM
@everyone the DeSantis Spartanburg visit will be on April 19 at 5:30p at First Baptist North Spartanburg. It is a free event to attend, but you must register through Eventbrite. https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-florida-blueprint-ft-special-guest-gov-ron-desantis-spartanburg-tickets-598592675807 Maybe one thing we could do right now is make as many fake registrations as the system allows so more people get shut out. Disruption on-site will be difficult due to it being in a private building with plenty of on-site parking. Would welcome ideas from this group.
The Florida Blueprint, Featuring Special Guest Gov. Ron DeSantis in Spartanburg, South Carolina
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I wonder if we could bot it
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AsterTheDisaster 04/12/2023 11:13 PM
Wait he's campaigning at a church?
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okay i just registered 4 spots
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AsterTheDisaster
Wait he's campaigning at a church?
Surprisingly common! Pence did it a few months ago in rock hill ><
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AsterTheDisaster 04/12/2023 11:14 PM
I thought there was some tax break thingy where churches couldn't endorse or whatever
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Neither one's announced for president so prob a loophole
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AsterTheDisaster
Wait he's campaigning at a church?
Lynnie (she/her) 04/12/2023 11:17 PM
He hasn't announced a run, so it isn't a campaign. It's going to be him bragging about what he did in FL, then winking into the camera as he says "and this could happen nationally with the right man in office"
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Looks like you might be able to register groups of four multiple times
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robin (they/it) 04/13/2023 8:04 AM
ill update the event in a little bit
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Lynnie (she/her)
@everyone the DeSantis Spartanburg visit will be on April 19 at 5:30p at First Baptist North Spartanburg. It is a free event to attend, but you must register through Eventbrite. https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-florida-blueprint-ft-special-guest-gov-ron-desantis-spartanburg-tickets-598592675807 Maybe one thing we could do right now is make as many fake registrations as the system allows so more people get shut out. Disruption on-site will be difficult due to it being in a private building with plenty of on-site parking. Would welcome ideas from this group.
Can we not do the register to attend thing with this
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Lynnie (she/her) 04/13/2023 8:16 AM
What do you mean?
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I dunno it feels like we put all our effort into this one tactic every time
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Lynnie (she/her) 04/13/2023 8:18 AM
It's a tactic that can be done now, but I'm not saying it is the only tactic. On that note though - I would welcome input or suggestions of additional ways to disrupt.
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seb it/they 04/13/2023 8:20 AM
I don't think making fake registrations is actually useful
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Especially if they have unlimited sales
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Really the goal should be to show up and disrupt at the event
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Make people attending uncomfortable
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seb it/they 04/13/2023 8:21 AM
Eventbrite handles large concerts as well, so it's not as if their system will be realistically "overloaded" or anything like that
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Hayden (he/they) 04/13/2023 8:22 AM
I don't think the goal is to take down Eventbrite, it's to give a false idea of how many people will attend
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What purpose does that serve
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seb it/they 04/13/2023 8:22 AM
Why is that useful?
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Cyprus
Really the goal should be to show up and disrupt at the event
robin (they/it) 04/13/2023 8:23 AM
probably a signal conversation ?
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Hayden (he/they) 04/13/2023 8:24 AM
Well because if the venue thinks 1000 people are coming at only 200 do, that means they are more likely to spend more time and energy in prep, staff etc for the event. Also this tactic is minimal effort, free, and anyone can do it, so it seems pointless to dissuade people from doing it
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Actually, I don’t condemn the tactic of spamming the event Brite j just don’t think we should put all our organizing effort (and all our names and email addresses) into it
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seb it/they 04/13/2023 8:24 AM
Y'all can do this tactic if you'd like, i just don't think it's effective
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Hayden (he/they) 04/13/2023 8:25 AM
Also do we know what capacity the venue has and if people can get tickets at the door
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Actually, I don’t condemn the tactic of spamming the event Brite j just don’t think we should put all our organizing effort (and all our names and email addresses) into it
Hayden (he/they) 04/13/2023 8:25 AM
I dont think anyone is saying this
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Hayden (he/they)
Also do we know what capacity the venue has and if people can get tickets at the door
robin (they/it) 04/13/2023 8:28 AM
looks like a pretty large church, but not a mega church. it has a pretty big parking lot.
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💀🎀 ☆𝒜𝒹𝑒𝓁𝒶𝒾𝓃𝑒𝟥𝟧𝟩☆ 𝔰𝔥𝔢/𝔥𝔢𝔯 🎀💀 04/13/2023 8:31 AM
Best picture I can find of the inside
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Hayden (he/they) 04/13/2023 8:32 AM
Yeah I think it would be surprising if they didn't let people in at the door
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The question is will they prevent people from entering if others have internet tickets
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Lynnie (she/her) 04/13/2023 8:38 AM
I think it seats at least 2,000 people. Hayden is right - nobody is asking anyone to give their REAL personally identifiable information. Eventbrite doesn't validate any of the input you give them, so it can all be bullshit as long as it "looks" real enough. This is not the only tactic - but as Hayden said, it is very low effort and can be done now - leading up to the event. On the off chance they have a limited number of spots according to the venue's size, or they don't allow people to get tickets the day of, then there is an opportunity to lock people out of the event by making the seats scarce. Being present in person is absolutely helpful as well, and if y'all want to do a Signal chat to talk about that, I am more than happy to discuss.
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robin (they/it) 04/13/2023 9:33 AM
dm me if you are planning on going to the desantis thingymabob
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/13/2023 10:09 AM
i’m thinking of going, bringing pizza, and just talking to people.
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/13/2023 10:18 AM
unless the protest is big enough to pick up local news coverage, i don’t think our actions will reach an audience beyond the people at the event. if our audience is limited to people at the event, then i don’t think antagonism is the right strategy. even if we get massive turnout they’ll probably outnumber us 1000-100. If we are heavily outnumbered, i feel like antagonism has a greater chance of emboldening them instead of scaring them. granted, if y’all wanna yell at the child abusers (hyper conservative christians), i understand that & think y’all should.
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/13/2023 10:51 AM
Damn, that's not the best location...
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Would have been better if it was downtown but oh well
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They might have assumed the same thing lol
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it's a good venue for desantis tbh. Enough seating to get anybody important in plus random people, a church reinforces his ties to Christofascism, private property gives them leeway against counter protestors
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/13/2023 10:55 AM
Its out in the burbs, which makes it so even a protest or some sort of action won't really be seen by ppl
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Lynnie (she/her) 04/13/2023 11:10 AM
I do have media contacts and I am fairly confident I can get some people interviewed.
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Hayden (he/they) 04/13/2023 11:13 AM
What's hilarious is that he is polling like 20 points behind trump. As in the Nikki Haley ballpark. Some of the quotes might be Trumpers saying they don't like him
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Lynnie (she/her)
@everyone the DeSantis Spartanburg visit will be on April 19 at 5:30p at First Baptist North Spartanburg. It is a free event to attend, but you must register through Eventbrite. https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-florida-blueprint-ft-special-guest-gov-ron-desantis-spartanburg-tickets-598592675807 Maybe one thing we could do right now is make as many fake registrations as the system allows so more people get shut out. Disruption on-site will be difficult due to it being in a private building with plenty of on-site parking. Would welcome ideas from this group.
Did my part.
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Lynnie (she/her) 04/13/2023 11:26 AM
TY
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AsterTheDisaster
Wait he's campaigning at a church?
Politicians do that regularly.
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Lynnie (she/her) 04/13/2023 11:38 AM
Also, if any of you have contacts at Clemson Uni. who can mobilize some student groups on their own, there's a TPUSA event there the same day and same time centered around "saving women's sports"
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@Clemson YDSA @ClemsonUnderTheUmbrella
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damn tp clemson just doesn't rest does it
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Lynnie (she/her) 04/13/2023 11:47 AM
Yeah they sent some bottle blonde bitches to the state house last year on the trans sports bill
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nope, it sucks
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fuck clemson
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AsterTheDisaster 04/13/2023 12:46 PM
Actually it's not TPUSA it's like Young Woman for America at Clemson.
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Hayden (he/they) 04/13/2023 1:05 PM
Young Woman? Just one?
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She’s very active
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Hayden (he/they) 04/13/2023 1:17 PM
Tw: homophobia, British person https://uncensoredamerica.us/milopsu/ (edited)
Ex-gay New York Times-bestselling author and global political sensation MILO YIANNOPOULOS will talk about free speech, faith, conversion therapy, hair style, and more!
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Looks like the loomer people also hosted milo yabbadabbado
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Discover unique opportunities at Garnet Gate! Find and attend events, browse and join organizations, and showcase your involvement.
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Maybe I missed this, but they have a USC chapter
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A student could log in and see who is involved
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I don't recognize any of the names (edited)
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7 total members.
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robin (they/it) 04/13/2023 1:23 PM
looks pretty fruity for an "ex-gay" im just sayin i dont think he prayed hard enough (joke)
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Hayden (he/they) 04/13/2023 1:27 PM
Could anyone cross reference that list with tpusa or aaf?
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yeah give me a few minutes
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robin (they/it) 04/13/2023 1:29 PM
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tpusa
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yeah not in tpusa
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robin (they/it) 04/13/2023 1:30 PM
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yaf
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Hayden (he/they)
Tw: homophobia, British person https://uncensoredamerica.us/milopsu/ (edited)
cade (he/him) 04/13/2023 1:42 PM
free speech, faith, conversion therapy, hair style, and more
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one of these things is not like the other
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Hayden (he/they)
Tw: homophobia, British person https://uncensoredamerica.us/milopsu/ (edited)
Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/13/2023 1:47 PM
i saw that
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cw: conversion therapy he’s like,opening a center where gay men can shock themselves out of their queerness, and he’s like, straight up whimsical about the process
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cade (he/him) 04/13/2023 1:53 PM
what a cartoon villain ass man
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Yeah here it is. We actually found one of their posters in our meeting room. I think they met right before we did lol. I can talk to my members about what we wanna do.
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Drew
Yeah here it is. We actually found one of their posters in our meeting room. I think they met right before we did lol. I can talk to my members about what we wanna do.
seb it/they 04/13/2023 2:01 PM
Can you add a tw for transphobia and add alt text
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cade (he/him) 04/13/2023 2:01 PM
“i’m not a biologist” 😭? this is a wild title to give your own event
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basic biology ppl when they learn about advanced biology
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AsterTheDisaster 04/13/2023 4:15 PM
I'm just glad I'm busy that night and don't have to think about it. I wasn't in the right headspace to listen to Candace Owens and I'm definitely not in the right headspace for this shit.
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Lynnie (she/her)
@everyone the DeSantis Spartanburg visit will be on April 19 at 5:30p at First Baptist North Spartanburg. It is a free event to attend, but you must register through Eventbrite. https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-florida-blueprint-ft-special-guest-gov-ron-desantis-spartanburg-tickets-598592675807 Maybe one thing we could do right now is make as many fake registrations as the system allows so more people get shut out. Disruption on-site will be difficult due to it being in a private building with plenty of on-site parking. Would welcome ideas from this group.
Dingo (they/them) 04/14/2023 5:29 AM
Funniest shit I ever did
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Let’s have a dedicated meeting today or tomorrow to talk about plans for these actions
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/16/2023 12:33 PM
mutual aid literally has nothing on our agenda, i imagine we will talk about it then
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that's the day before though
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it;s a bit ight
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/16/2023 12:38 PM
Its either that or we plan a meeting a few hours before said meeting happens (edited)
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that's generally what happens lol
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
mutual aid literally has nothing on our agenda, i imagine we will talk about it then
We need to talk about yallmart at that meeting too
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
Its either that or we plan a meeting a few hours before said meeting happens (edited)
seb it/they 04/16/2023 1:02 PM
We can just make it into the social media meeting maybe?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/16/2023 1:03 PM
Sounds fine
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Social media and mutual aid are basically the default OAT meetings anyway
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We need to talk about yallmart at that meeting too
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/16/2023 1:04 PM
Remind me when the new date for this?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
Remind me when the new date for this?
Next Sunday, the 24th (edited)
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Logan (he/him) 04/18/2023 12:08 AM
important update:
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idk if this means we're changing where we're protestin but I think it's good to know
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George (He/They) 04/18/2023 1:28 AM
TW: Fascist Imagery: Several PSL posters on the bridge by McBride have been vandalized, one of them has been defaced with a swastika (edited)
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Logan (he/him)
idk if this means we're changing where we're protestin but I think it's good to know
What’s the point of rallying not in front of them
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lumenbos (they/he) 04/18/2023 10:17 AM
Who needs a ride for the Desantis protest tomorrow? I'm out on the Broad River side of Columbia on the way to Spartanburg. I have a van that can hold 6 passengers
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@Midlands SC
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Post and courier hit me up to talk about the Laura loomer protest tn. Who has been involved and would talk to them
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I have not kept up at all with it
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Hayden (he/they) 04/18/2023 11:44 AM
Is it Tom or someone else from the paper
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Hayden (he/they) 04/18/2023 11:52 AM
I know @Cyprus and @robin (they/it) were helping out with the planning
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I can potentially talk to them depending on if I get a nap I’m exhausted
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I also wasn’t in planning call
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Someone who was in planning call should probably take it (edited)
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Hayden (he/they) 04/18/2023 11:54 AM
The reporter could also just go to the event
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Hayden (he/they)
The reporter could also just go to the event
So true
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robin (they/it) 04/18/2023 12:26 PM
i dont want to talk to people it is a fear of mine. sorry
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Hayden (he/they)
Is it Tom or someone else from the paper
Lianna Hubbard
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So is there anybody who is capable to talking to her?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/18/2023 12:49 PM
i mean i have no objections to doing so
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Hayden (he/they) 04/18/2023 12:55 PM
Like we said earlier, there's no such thing as too many people reaching out
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Uncensored America retweeted our twitter post
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
i mean i have no objections to doing so
Could you dm me good contact info for you?
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 1:26 PM
Okay I'm a bit more concerned about this protest now
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Yeah, that’s why we should push numbers
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We’re safer if there’s more of us
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 1:27 PM
@jacklyn can you cross post to dsa
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Can someone make an announcement to push to everyone?
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And we need to cross post in CSOC and iris
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/18/2023 1:28 PM
Ill do csoc
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 1:28 PM
@Bernie can you do iris
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robin (they/it) 04/18/2023 1:29 PM
i can make an announcement here
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seb it/they
@Bernie can you do iris
Which one do you want IRIS to push?
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 1:32 PM
If you could maybe just say something similar to what Athena said in CSOC and link the tweet that would be good
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seb it/they
If you could maybe just say something similar to what Athena said in CSOC and link the tweet that would be good
I’m not in the CSOC server 💀
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/18/2023 1:33 PM
@ceryone OAT is protesting Laura loomer’s event tonight at 7pm, its being moved to the graduate hotels near capstone. this is where we will have the rally! show up bring your friends! the address is 1619 pendleton st
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This
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@robin (they/it) can you update your post to say graduate hotels and include the address
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I’ll send it out, but IRIS has our lavender graduation tonight at 7:30 for our seniors
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Logan (he/him) 04/18/2023 1:34 PM
I put something in the MWW discord as well
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 1:35 PM
Yeah it's bad timing for sure
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Can. Someone put something in cpp
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cade (he/him) 04/18/2023 1:36 PM
this has 99% probability to be fake but
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robin (they/it) 04/18/2023 1:36 PM
some one who is not bernie can put it in around campus so its not like bernie is being mean to graduaters
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robin (they/it) 04/18/2023 1:36 PM
troll
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/18/2023 1:36 PM
Yes thats fake
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 1:36 PM
Okie k can't do it rn (in class)
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cade (he/him) 04/18/2023 1:37 PM
that’s what i thought, weird tactic to act like we’d just take her at face value 😭
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 1:38 PM
@AthenaTheCommie (she/they) can you put the graphic in CSOC too and encourage people to share it
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I think making sure people can share details easily is good
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Can we get the updated location on it first
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Could we not share that stuff if it's unconfirmed
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All you're doing is potential cointelproing ourselves
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For whoever is putting it in the IRIS around campus chat: Organize Against Transphobia (OAT) is protesting Laura Loomer’s event tonight at 7PM, being held at the Graduate Hotel (1619 Pendleton St). If you can’t attend our Lavender Grad meeting tonight, this is another event worth attending. + the Laura Loomer poster
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This is our last meeting to say goodbye to our graduating seniors and I have to/want to be there, but good luck tonight
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Could we not share that stuff if it's unconfirmed
I’ve also heard it from a TDG reporter
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 1:42 PM
Can we call like Russel?
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Or them?
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To confirm for ourselves
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I don't really trust anything until there's an official announcement and think we should still continue forward as if this is happening
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Yep agree
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Says it’s at 315 Russell House on the official website now
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cade (he/him) 04/18/2023 1:43 PM
i just called the graduate, they said it’s been cancelled
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Logan (he/him) 04/18/2023 1:43 PM
I would rather be there and have nothing happen than not go and let Loomer go unchallenged
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 1:43 PM
Can someone call Russel house now
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Or go to Russel and ask them personally
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I’m in Russell now
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I’ll go to the information desk
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 1:44 PM
Do we have water/snacks/masks
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And medical supplies
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I have some masks I can bring
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seb it/they
@jacklyn can you cross post to dsa
@Columbia DSA can someone who has been involved in this share in the cola dsa server please. im not caught up on what's going on and cant rn
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@Columbia DSA can someone who has been involved in this share in the cola dsa server please. im not caught up on what's going on and cant rn
@ rob and he'll share on socials
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I called the graduate (edited)
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Moved == cancelled cyprus
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cancelled or just moved
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It’s not happening at the graduate
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I’m walking up to the desk now, one sec
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 1:46 PM
Y'all just wait Bernie is talking to Russel
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/18/2023 1:46 PM
Almost certainly moved if they’re showing at russel
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 1:46 PM
Yeah
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seb it/they
Do we have water/snacks/masks
seb it/they 04/18/2023 1:46 PM
Bumping this
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/18/2023 1:47 PM
No, we do not
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Yep, it’s here in Russell 315
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/18/2023 1:48 PM
@robin (they/it) can you edit the announcement
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cade (he/him) 04/18/2023 1:48 PM
it needs to be updated on twitter too
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robin (they/it) 04/18/2023 1:48 PM
oat is really good at making people change rooms of their events
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 1:48 PM
Athena can you get the one in csoc
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Russell confirmed, scouting room now
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/18/2023 1:48 PM
Done
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We need to start calling venues to make them intentionally cancel
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/18/2023 1:48 PM
Can someone hit the graphic with an update (edited)
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 1:49 PM
I can go and get some water
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 1:49 PM
And maybe some snacks/masks idk
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Victor (they/them) 04/18/2023 1:49 PM
315 holds like 40 people max its tiny
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 1:49 PM
Anyone want to go with me after my class is out?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/18/2023 1:49 PM
Isnt 315 the old iris room
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I have to go to Walgreens anyway to pick up a prescription
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/18/2023 1:49 PM
Its a classroom lol
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Click to see attachment 🖼️
ooh were so scary
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oogly boogly bitch
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
Isnt 315 the old iris room
No that's 305
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So true
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Victor (they/them) 04/18/2023 1:50 PM
This is a very funny turn of events
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She got mf downsized
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Logan (he/him) 04/18/2023 1:50 PM
Me checking if OAT is under my bed before I sleep
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315 is closed
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Still not super big, it’s where Cockstock meeting happen
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robin (they/it) 04/18/2023 1:51 PM
didnt she initially move rooms because too many people?
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Logan (he/him) 04/18/2023 1:51 PM
But yea this is objectively hilarious
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cade (he/him) 04/18/2023 1:51 PM
“my event got rescheduled, and now cancelled and rescheduled again. but these are the bad guys!!!!”
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/18/2023 1:51 PM
Cry about it loomer
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oatbert
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Everybody sign up for tickets now
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/18/2023 1:51 PM
Oatbert victory
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So we can get in
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Claiming that she got threatened is priming people who show up on her side for violence
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Numbers needed we keep us safe
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Victor (they/them) 04/18/2023 1:52 PM
And this venue is easier to protest I think since the lobby is right there. One thing to make sure of is that all protesters leave in groups and are not followed. Loomer is likely to say a bunch of incendiary shit that will rile people up into wanted to attack peeps.
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Yeah large groups of people will be much safer
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Logan (he/him) 04/18/2023 1:52 PM
It's in the middle of Russell so I doubt anything will happen beyond shouting matches. Still better safe than sorry tho
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Victor (they/them) 04/18/2023 1:53 PM
And also coordinating rides home rather than people walking or taking buses home is safest
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Victor (they/them)
And this venue is easier to protest I think since the lobby is right there. One thing to make sure of is that all protesters leave in groups and are not followed. Loomer is likely to say a bunch of incendiary shit that will rile people up into wanted to attack peeps.
It's down a hallway
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slay oatbert
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If you're a student you get preferential treatment so get a ticket so you can get in
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I already have mine
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Logan (he/him) 04/18/2023 1:54 PM
same
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Victor (they/them) 04/18/2023 1:54 PM
What is the link to sign up? Idk if I can be there, but I can reserve a seat
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/18/2023 1:54 PM
Where do i sign yp
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If anyone can’t make it in or gets a bit hot/overwhelmed, we have pizza and cupcakes in the Intersection (basement) at 7:30
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Victor (they/them)
What is the link to sign up? Idk if I can be there, but I can reserve a seat
It’s not reserved, just first come first serve for those with tickets
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Victor (they/them) 04/18/2023 1:54 PM
Ah dam
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/18/2023 1:54 PM
ok but where
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where do we get tickets
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Bernie
It’s not reserved, just first come first serve for those with tickets
Logan (he/him) 04/18/2023 1:54 PM
so be there an hour early is what you're sayin
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/18/2023 1:55 PM
GET TICKETS Join us for a speech by political activist Laura Loomer on how she became the most censored woman in the world. Tuesday, April 18th Doors Open: 7:00 pm Event Starts: 8:00 pm 315 Russell House, University of South Carolina, Columbia, SC Priority Access for Students TICKETS All attendees must show a valid form
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
where do we get tickets
GET TICKETS Join us for a speech by political activist Laura Loomer on how she became the most censored woman in the world. Tuesday, April 18th Doors Open: 7:00 pm Event Starts: 8:00 pm 315 Russell House, University of South Carolina, Columbia, SC Priority Access for Students TICKETS All attendees must show a valid form
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/18/2023 1:55 PM
here
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Ah, twice the links for twice the reservations
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Victor (they/them) 04/18/2023 1:57 PM
Wtf it lists water bottles as prohibited inside the event
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Logan (he/him) 04/18/2023 1:58 PM
tfw a fascist is scared of water
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Not to be a boomer with cliche gifs, but
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Behold, the wicked witch of the west melting
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/18/2023 1:59 PM
got my ticket
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My plan is to bring a pride flag in
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Logan (he/him) 04/18/2023 2:00 PM
Im just gonna be as annoying as possible
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Let’s also have a staging spot outside the room for people who aren’t going in
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We could do the same space as the TPUSA protest
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There’s the 3rd floor lounge
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So true
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Right outside with tons of seats
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So right outside the room is a narrow ass hallway then the lounge
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They'll probably try to keep us out of the hallway
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is it in russ now?
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Logan (he/him) 04/18/2023 2:01 PM
yea
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robin (they/it) 04/18/2023 2:01 PM
yes
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Logan (he/him) 04/18/2023 2:01 PM
315
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Logan (he/him)
Me checking if OAT is under my bed before I sleep
Logan (he/him) 04/18/2023 2:02 PM
POV: Im a fascist checking under my bed for water before I go to sleep
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 2:05 PM
Still need to cross post in cola dSA and cop
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Cop
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Fucking autocorrect
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Cpp
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56 seats
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 2:18 PM
I'm at Walgreens
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Hayden (he/they) 04/18/2023 2:22 PM
I'll get CPP
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 2:24 PM
Water, masks gotten
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Nico (she/her) 04/18/2023 2:37 PM
I can send a message to laso groupme
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Victor (they/them) 04/18/2023 2:40 PM
Has anyone contacted students for justice in Palestine?
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 2:42 PM
I'm not in there but i don't think so
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Water and masks are in my apartment
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cade (he/him) 04/18/2023 2:43 PM
thank you seb!!!
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 2:50 PM
We also should get into contact with college Dems (i know) and USC NAACP
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Victor (they/them) 04/18/2023 2:52 PM
Can whoever has insta access message their accounts from OAT?
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 2:56 PM
@social_media can someone do this
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cade (he/him) 04/18/2023 3:19 PM
so if we’re not going in the room she’s speaking in, are we gonna be in the hall outside that on the third floor
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Hayden (he/they) 04/18/2023 3:24 PM
For everyone going, do you know how you are getting home? Do you have people you are sure you are leaving with
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cade (he/him) 04/18/2023 3:25 PM
i’m driving with a friend, we’re gonna be outside of the room; but we’re going there and coming back together
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Nico (she/her) 04/18/2023 3:27 PM
where are y'all parking, I need someone to walk back with, I was planning on parking in the maxcy parking lot since u won't get ticketed there after 6
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Hayden (he/they) 04/18/2023 3:27 PM
I'm thinking towards the law school
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People don't necessarily have to say in here what they are doing, it's just important everyone develop a plan before the event starts
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Nico (she/her)
where are y'all parking, I need someone to walk back with, I was planning on parking in the maxcy parking lot since u won't get ticketed there after 6
I get home around 6, I'll walk you to your car and go to park where you park I suppose (edited)
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If anyone needs someone to walk with them to their car, I'm the large redhead
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Nico (she/her)
where are y'all parking, I need someone to walk back with, I was planning on parking in the maxcy parking lot since u won't get ticketed there after 6
cade (he/him) 04/18/2023 3:37 PM
i have no preference as long as there’s space and we can’t get ticketed
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i can park there
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Nico (she/her) 04/18/2023 3:38 PM
cool, do u know where it is
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cade (he/him) 04/18/2023 3:38 PM
wait i just read 💀
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i don’t know where it is
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Nico (she/her) 04/18/2023 3:40 PM
I'll dm u
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 3:40 PM
Is anyone on campus and can help me carry water to Russel rn
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robin (they/it) 04/18/2023 3:40 PM
yeah give me a second
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Nico (she/her) 04/18/2023 3:52 PM
just fyi I will probably show up after 7:20
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cade (he/him) 04/18/2023 4:00 PM
do you want someone to walk to the russel house with, or just to walk back to the parking lot
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Nico (she/her) 04/18/2023 4:01 PM
I think just walking back will be fine
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cade (he/him)
so if we’re not going in the room she’s speaking in, are we gonna be in the hall outside that on the third floor
We are going to be in the third floor lounge as well as the hallway. It’s a very easy to find space
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cade (he/him)
so if we’re not going in the room she’s speaking in, are we gonna be in the hall outside that on the third floor
I'm gonna try to get in the room using my ticket
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/18/2023 4:18 PM
please stay safe and give them hell!
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Logan (he/him) 04/18/2023 4:20 PM
Im also gonna go in prob
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George (He/They) 04/18/2023 4:28 PM
I have my Trans Gamecock hat today
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I have my cat ears in blinky mode that’s how you know it’s serious
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I have jingly jangly cat ears but never considered wearing them to protests
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The jingles and jangles are the war cry of an angry citizenry
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robin (they/it) 04/18/2023 4:35 PM
2 cases of water are in the intersection
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Roxy she/her 04/18/2023 4:43 PM
bernie you said the intersection is in the basement of russell?
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 4:43 PM
yes it is
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robin (they/it) 04/18/2023 4:46 PM
we gonna bring the water up later it was just a safe place to leave it for a little while
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It’s also a place you can go if there’s overflow and you don’t want to wait in that upstairs lobby or you get too heated or Russell people try and push you all further off. IRIS is having our lavender graduation, but you all are welcome to come join us, we’re a very friendly bunch
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Some might say too friendly
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just noticed this. might make it harder if you're trans (such as myself) to get in the door if your ID doesn't match
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Ticket got
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Olivia
just noticed this. might make it harder if you're trans (such as myself) to get in the door if your ID doesn't match
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/18/2023 5:12 PM
I noticed that too, im not giving these people my legal name anyway so even if it matched im not going in the room if they are carding
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They definitely knew what they were doing
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Roxy she/her 04/18/2023 5:27 PM
i made some fake tickets but I didnt get a real one for that reaso
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I'll be prepared next time, gonna make a fake ID with Comrade Caboose or some shit lol
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Me seb and Athena are in the third floor study lounge
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Hailey (she/they) 04/18/2023 5:58 PM
Do you guys need anyone to grab water or snacks?
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 5:59 PM
we already have water
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no snacks, whatever you bring it can't have nuts in it
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seb it/they
no snacks, whatever you bring it can't have nuts in it
seb it/they 04/18/2023 6:01 PM
To clairfy this meant : we do not have snacks currently, if you decide to get something it can't have nuts in it
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lol i realize that was like a very monosyllabic response
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@everyone if you can, try and show up closer to 7 or before. Doors for the LL event open at 7.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/18/2023 6:31 PM
Uncensored america is here
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 6:34 PM
I'm in the back hallway where we think she's going to walk through (edited)
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I'm in my car, can someone dm me where they parked?
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 6:35 PM
I've got an uncensored America baby sitter with me lol
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robin (they/it) 04/18/2023 6:36 PM
i think people were planning on parking in the maxcy parking lot
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 6:37 PM
Lol the uncensored America guy is discussing how he flew in from Baltimore
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robin (they/it)
i think people were planning on parking in the maxcy parking lot
the email from them says bull street garage
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I'm bringing a sign
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 6:42 PM
They've got a safely engaging in discussion officer or whatever again
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seb it/they
lol i realize that was like a very monosyllabic response
Hailey (she/they) 04/18/2023 6:42 PM
No worries! I’m terrified of accidentally like poisoning someone so I will pass because I can’t afford to be sued 🙏🙏
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seb it/they
They've got a safely engaging in discussion officer or whatever again
Lmfao what
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 6:43 PM
So the university pays for there to be like a person "trained in the first amendment" to make sure they don't get sued about student protests
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Basically event cops
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More press i think
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Idk maybe theyd have less issues on their hands if they didnt platform fascists LOL
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phew crazy idea
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 6:44 PM
Yeah they also don't understand the first amendment lol
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Fuck that bull street walk up hill lmao. I'm winded
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George (He/They) 04/18/2023 6:50 PM
Is anyone by 315? I just want to make sure I’m not the only one there
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robin (they/it)
i think people were planning on parking in the maxcy parking lot
Nico (she/her) 04/18/2023 6:50 PM
yeah several of us are parking there
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 6:50 PM
Yes we're here
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lumenbos (they/he) 04/18/2023 6:50 PM
me and 3 other people are almost at the Russel house
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George (He/They) 04/18/2023 6:51 PM
Would anyone be willing to walk with me up there?
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 6:52 PM
Yeah where are you George
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Roxy she/her 04/18/2023 6:52 PM
is anyone already up by 315?
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George (He/They) 04/18/2023 6:52 PM
In the russel lobby by Panda Express
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seb it/they 04/18/2023 6:52 PM
Yes like 10 people
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Protest cops
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George (He/They)
In the russel lobby by Panda Express
seb it/they 04/18/2023 6:53 PM
Omw
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Roxy she/her
is anyone already up by 315?
robin (they/it) 04/18/2023 6:56 PM
yes
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Hayden (he/they) 04/18/2023 6:59 PM
Abysmal traffic on Assembly
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Pizza and cupcakes in the basement if you can’t get in and need a queer space to decompress
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Hayden (he/they) 04/18/2023 7:31 PM
If y'all see the Russell house drones, express your pity
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Almost want to bring them something
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what drones
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The people working the event
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Hayden (he/they) 04/18/2023 7:32 PM
Green shirts
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Underpaid students who had to make this work with two hours notice
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that sucke
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Yeah basically, they didn’t ask to be here or deal with this
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Bernie
Pizza and cupcakes in the basement if you can’t get in and need a queer space to decompress
Hayden (he/they) 04/18/2023 7:36 PM
Where in the basement? I can guide people there if need be
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Hayden (he/they)
Where in the basement? I can guide people there if need be
Intersection lounge
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I’m also in the the 3rd floor lobby if anyone needs directions downstairs
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Hayden (he/they)
Where in the basement? I can guide people there if need be
It’s the intersection
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They aren't carding sign up on your phones
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VibrantVi
Intersection lounge
I’ll be heading down in a few mins
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robin (they/it) 04/18/2023 8:07 PM
one of these loomer supporters is passing around a picture of my flier claiming it is the reason he came 💁‍♀️
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oatbert hold power
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Hayden (he/they) 04/18/2023 8:25 PM
Any news?
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We are vibing (edited)
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robin (they/it) 04/18/2023 8:28 PM
one of the guys working claims to be a leftist he just works for a bunch of youtubers
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Hayden (he/they) 04/18/2023 8:29 PM
Like for Laura?
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robin (they/it) 04/18/2023 8:30 PM
and a bunch of other people
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Nico (she/her) 04/18/2023 8:30 PM
How loud are we in there
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robin (they/it) 04/18/2023 8:30 PM
audible
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James Harley 04/18/2023 8:34 PM
Everyone I know we’re here to protest but there filming and can turn out worse than we need
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We're about to get kettled, cop 2 called for backup
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James Harley 04/18/2023 8:35 PM
The cops are here as well, so don’t overdo it
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Atticus (he/him) 04/18/2023 8:36 PM
Watching y'all on her live stream right now and the camera just got a solid three seconds that was nothing but the word "nazis" on a sign. Keep up the good work over there.
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Victor (they/them) 04/18/2023 8:38 PM
Be safe everyone
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Atticus (he/him)
Watching y'all on her live stream right now and the camera just got a solid three seconds that was nothing but the word "nazis" on a sign. Keep up the good work over there.
Wheres the live stream
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thanks
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Atticus (he/him) 04/18/2023 8:41 PM
"Anti-censorship" and yet her YouTube live comment section is in sub-only mode. Coward.
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Victor (they/them) 04/18/2023 8:41 PM
Classic
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Co pda
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Cops
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Singular from lobby
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I see the cops on the live stream, stay safe
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“I had to threaten people with arrest so I could speak, so anyways that’s why I’m for free speech” 👹
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/18/2023 8:56 PM
how is everyone holding up? i started to look at the live stream but the comments scared the shit out of me
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Roxy she/her 04/18/2023 8:58 PM
where is the intersection?
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is anyone still there?
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is it still happening?
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lumenbos (they/he) 04/18/2023 8:59 PM
Hate that I had to leave but I know it wasn't worth being arrested. Chanting outside gave me a lot of courage
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yeah she's been super delayed by us on the inside.
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Roxy she/her
where is the intersection?
It’s in the basement past Panera
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I Can stand outside if anyone needs it
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/18/2023 9:05 PM
i just realized there’s only 35 people watching the stream
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Victor (they/them) 04/18/2023 9:06 PM
Is there any food left in intersection?
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I fucking hate yall's dean, fucking Mark
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/18/2023 9:09 PM
rewatching the vod. it’s interesting that he starts by claiming that we’re threatening them
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Victor (they/them) 04/18/2023 9:09 PM
Cop on second floor
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Victor (they/them)
Cop on second floor
A lot?
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Victor (they/them) 04/18/2023 9:11 PM
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Nothing to worry bout then, they've decided to do nothing during, but leave in groups as we planned because they may stop people. If anyone needs me to walk with them, I didn't bring my car, I live close.
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The dean is fucking laughing, what a peice of shit liberal. Told me he has to be neutral and I told him there is no neutral, tolerance paradox, and a Desmond Tutu quote and he invited me to his office. I think he wants me
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/18/2023 9:14 PM
“so as you can see, right there, they’re not rational. they’re anti free-speech communists and they have no rational” - the loomster
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The dean is fucking laughing, what a peice of shit liberal. Told me he has to be neutral and I told him there is no neutral, tolerance paradox, and a Desmond Tutu quote and he invited me to his office. I think he wants me
Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/18/2023 9:14 PM
he wants you to do a thing or he wants you?
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Hayden (he/they) 04/18/2023 9:15 PM
I'm going towards capstone after the shindig
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Let's try to collect out on Greene and head out in a clump
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Victor (they/them)
Is there any food left in intersection?
Russell is kicking us out, reservation is over
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We’ll bring cupcakes up for anyone outside
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/18/2023 9:18 PM
“you don’t get to decide who speaks on your campus” laura loomer
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Hayden (he/they) 04/18/2023 9:18 PM
Guy in dark grey polo and khakis is Jeff stensland, a USC comms guy
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers)
he wants you to do a thing or he wants you?
Idk, all these conservatives are either gonna fuck me or fight me, especially that fucker with the chain and black jacket lol
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Hayden (he/they)
Let's try to collect out on Greene and head out in a clump
Idk where these places are
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Not sure I’d want Laura Loomer near my ass, but great song anyway
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Caboose
Idk where these places are
Greene is the street you come out on when you take the stairs down
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The big ones across the lobby with the couches and tables
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im confused- isnt he supposed to be in spartanburg?
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Hayden (he/they) 04/18/2023 9:32 PM
CHARLESTON, S.C. (WCBD) – Florida Governor Ron DeSantis (R) will make stops in the Lowcountry Wednesday as part of his Florida Blueprint Event. DeSantis will begin at the North Charleston Col…
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Oh shit ill show up
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Hayden (he/they) 04/18/2023 9:33 PM
Spartanburg isn't until 5:30
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Is aynone else going to be able to make it to the Charleston visit?
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Hayden (he/they) 04/18/2023 9:33 PM
He's making a tour across the state
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/18/2023 9:34 PM
i can reach out to prism, and t time
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do we want to just tell people to show up or hammer out some details first
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Yeah lets figure this out
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Oh its at the summerville country club
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers)
i just realized there’s only 35 people watching the stream
and she kept embarrasing herself
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Oh its at the summerville country club
i dont think id feel safe in a private place like that surrounded by desantoids unless we could get a decent amount of people out for it
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oh wait he has a seperate one at the north charleston colliseum
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solvent (they/she) 04/18/2023 9:42 PM
im in chas, ill be there if others go
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I can find so little info about the event
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Yeah its looking like its just a quick stop at the Coliseum and then a close door event for republican donors at the country club
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Victor (they/them) 04/18/2023 9:49 PM
Got maskd and water omw over
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I'm home
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desantis really out here announcing a visit 2 days in advance in the middle of a weekday
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GOP donors tend to be the type with free time on wendesday at 1 pm
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robin (they/it) 04/18/2023 10:14 PM
im home
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Logan (he/him) 04/18/2023 10:15 PM
home safe
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I’m sure it’s been circulating in their rich Republican donor/fixer circles for a while
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Safe home
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Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/18/2023 10:17 PM
glad everyone safe
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care y'all
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Home safe
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though maybe I'm looking at the wrong link
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It might just be a parking lot event or something like that
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i dont think itll be worth showing up
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Roxy she/her 04/18/2023 10:27 PM
Thank you to everyone who came out. I think we made our mark, and we made that nazi cunt feel bad. We did something good today, and I'm proud of everyone who participated
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Nico (she/her) 04/18/2023 10:30 PM
Home safe
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Thank you to everyone who came out. I think we made our mark, and we made that nazi cunt feel bad. We did something good today, and I'm proud of everyone who participated
I was watching the livestream and you all definitely got under her skin, I appreciate knowing that there is a defense to dangerous ideas on campus
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Nico (she/her) 04/18/2023 10:32 PM
I also dropped off @Victor (they/them) and @AthenaTheCommie (she/they) so they're home safe
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Yeah Im so proud to know there are so many people willing to stand up in the face of someone like that, and stand tall. Makes me feel a lot safer sticking around in South Carolina for a little longer
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Watching y'all on her live stream right now and the camera just got a solid three seconds that was nothing but the word "nazis" on a sign. Keep up the good work over there.
robin (they/it) 04/18/2023 10:38 PM
the whole sign was nazis r bad from caboose but clearly i couldnt see to line it up correctly. got yelled at a couple times for that. but also one reporter got a bunch of pictures of LL behind the nazis r bad sign
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the whole sign was nazis r bad from caboose but clearly i couldnt see to line it up correctly. got yelled at a couple times for that. but also one reporter got a bunch of pictures of LL behind the nazis r bad sign
Atticus (he/him) 04/18/2023 10:45 PM
Glad to hear it was effective. This was one of my personal favorite screenshots (censored for Loomcam, alt text attached)
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A screenshot of a live feed from the Laura Loomer speech event. A cardboard sign reading “NAZIS” takes up the majority of the frame. On the right, an adult woman (Loomer) and a man can be seen talking. The background features two American flags anf a sign of the Uncensored America logo.
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@social_media someone please post this
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Laura loomer is a nazi apologist. Tonight she was called one to her face :) No safe spaces for fascists.
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I went through her account and all of the videos are perfect showing that we won't stand for her stupidity. I wish i could've gone 💕
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Victor thank you for all your help (edited)
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Victor (they/them) 04/18/2023 10:48 PM
Athena has the water bottles btw
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I know shes gonna try to spin the narrative that she was succesfull in still delivering her speech but every single video shows how pathetic she looks
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And thanks to everyone who came out
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And watched online
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Victor (they/them) 04/18/2023 10:49 PM
Glad everything went well and the loomers were outnumbered by a lot
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The Looming was a success
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lissie ! (pls ping) they/she 04/18/2023 10:50 PM
Glad it went well!! Was following along between naps
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Hayden (he/they) 04/18/2023 10:53 PM
I have to say it was really satisfying writing the part in the statement about how her ideas contribute less than nothing to society lol
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big shoutout to everybody who was chanting outside, it felt very reassuring (edited)
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i must have clapped hundreds of times lol
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big shoutout to everybody who was chanting outside, it felt very reassuring (edited)
lumenbos (they/he) 04/18/2023 10:59 PM
Yes literally gave me the power to chant on the inside thank you all so much
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i must have clapped hundreds of times lol
I was for sure gonna fuck up the rhythm, so did not clap lmao
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I was for sure gonna fuck up the rhythm, so did not clap lmao
Nico (she/her) 04/18/2023 11:01 PM
seb caught me messing up the rhythm lmao
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Lol I wasn't going to tell anyone
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Nico (she/her) 04/18/2023 11:02 PM
There's a reason I'm bad at rhythm games 😔
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I secretly didn’t stay the whole time because group rhythmic activities scare my uncoordinated little heart
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Nico (she/her) 04/18/2023 11:03 PM
also I apologize to anyone who tried to talk to me I probably didn't process most of what u said while chanting was happening
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cade (he/him) 04/18/2023 11:47 PM
shoutout to whoever in the speech room held this pic up on their phone when i had it up on mine in the hall outside the door
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Logan (he/him) 04/18/2023 11:51 PM
same energy
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shoutout to whoever in the speech room held this pic up on their phone when i had it up on mine in the hall outside the door
cade (he/him) 04/19/2023 12:36 AM
ALT text: zoomed in picture of laura the loomer
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The audio is missing. I'll figure something out.
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cade (he/him) 04/19/2023 1:03 AM
i can hear it, at least in the first 2 minutes
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shoutout to whoever in the speech room held this pic up on their phone when i had it up on mine in the hall outside the door
Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/19/2023 1:03 AM
honestly if we can get giant cutouts of whoever's speaking with zoomed in photos of their face, that would be pretty cool
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like who enjoys looking at zoomed in photos of themselves? it's kindof humiliating and would probably throw someone off their toes. and like, i think it's less likely to be seen as violent, which may make it harder for people who are like "muh free speech" when we chant at them
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Hayden (he/they) 04/19/2023 8:16 AM
Possibly the worst written article I have ever seen
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 8:17 AM
Lol they don't even mention oat or that there was a protest?
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wtf is that bs
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Matt Cox he/him 04/19/2023 8:19 AM
“Thoughts are diverse” enlightened centrism intensifies
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Hayden (he/they) 04/19/2023 8:19 AM
They even missed points for capitalization and punctuation
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Looks like it was ripped from the teleprompter and slapped down under the video 💀
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The terror
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I should’ve kept the cat ears on
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Hayden (he/they) 04/19/2023 8:21 AM
Terrible lighting lol
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 8:22 AM
Oh no
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The terror
seb it/they 04/19/2023 8:22 AM
Alt text: a terribly lit still of Cyprus with her eyes closed captioned "Cyprus Hartford USC student"
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Apparently the guy with the curly hair founded uncensored America and he is the former president of Penn state tpusa
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robin (they/it) 04/19/2023 8:25 AM
sean the sunglasses boi
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And he drives a blue Chevy Malibu
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https://twitter.com/SteelAutonomy/status/1648516202317352962 pittsburgh had a busy day yesterday too
Great turnout! Steel City stood strong against Transphobe Michael Knowles! We had hundreds and they had about 30 in attendance. They hid in the building and ran out the exits while we held the streets. Pittsburgh has a long tradition of solidarity, and we're keeping it that way!
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Post the effigy burning video
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tim poole account, don't click thru
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comments are bad
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Prettyyyy
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lots of making shit up happening there too
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thanks for the warning felix
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also very funny that michael knowles is calling the protestors liberals
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This is legendary
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BenjaminIsaac 04/19/2023 10:03 AM
the cops look so disappointed lmao
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Can someone process Arnold's videos to blur faces and post to socials?
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Can we get eat my ass t shirts
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Can we get eat my ass t shirts
do you have any recommendations for graphics
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With the semester almost over I have more time to contribute to OAT
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Was half joking but if anyone has ideas for what to put on it
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fuck you laura - the usc antifascist choir
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very funny that we did that for 12 straight minutes lmao
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BenjaminIsaac 04/19/2023 10:05 AM
release the album version!
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I like the cop checking his phone to see how much longer he has to stand there. They all look so bored.
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i saw several of them yawn pretty ferociously
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i hope the overtime was worth it piggies
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cade (he/him) 04/19/2023 10:09 AM
the one in the speech room being all “i wanna go home early” 💀 so do we
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"I'm just doing my job" "well quit your job then"
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it was really funny when Loomer was talking about how law enforcement works with big tech to censor conservatives and she's just flanked by swine
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i hope the overtime was worth it piggies
Matt Cox he/him 04/19/2023 10:11 AM
I hope the banks refuse to cash the check, it bounces, and they have to get a real job
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it was really funny when Loomer was talking about how law enforcement works with big tech to censor conservatives and she's just flanked by swine
also like 6 or 7 cops outside the door at any one time with like 1 or 2 roaming around outside on greene st (edited)
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Even with all those cops we still managed to beat Laura and piggies to her car (edited)
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Even with all those cops we still managed to beat Laura and piggies to her car (edited)
Did anyone get video of that?
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She did but she didn't post
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seb it/they
"I'm just doing my job" "well quit your job then"
I only feel bad for the student Russell House workers, that’s a pretty terrible assignment to get put on
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I got this photo but nothing more
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Arnold Karr
Did anyone get video of that?
Nico (she/her) 04/19/2023 10:15 AM
I got video
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seb it/they
I got this photo but nothing more
Alt: license plate of the car Laura loomer drove out in
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Bernie
I only feel bad for the student Russell House workers, that’s a pretty terrible assignment to get put on
Like the cops, they can refuse.
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it was really funny when Loomer was talking about how law enforcement works with big tech to censor conservatives and she's just flanked by swine
Don’t they love the police? Thin blue line, blue lives matter, all that?
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Conspiracy goes beyond police love
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cade (he/him) 04/19/2023 10:17 AM
she was filming everything from the passenger seat on her ipad 💀
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Arnold Karr
Like the cops, they can refuse.
Student employees? I am a student employee (not in Russell House) and when you’re scheduled, you kind of just have to do whatever you get given in a day. I don’t know if it’s the same in Russell House specifically, but I do have sympathy for other student workers working pretty awful jobs
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Critical support to comrade Laura and her infighting
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her dominion conspiracy posting is interesting
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Hayden (he/they) 04/19/2023 10:27 AM
She should stay for the desantis events this evening
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/19/2023 10:27 AM
She'll be out there protesting with OAT people 😂
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Student employees? I am a student employee (not in Russell House) and when you’re scheduled, you kind of just have to do whatever you get given in a day. I don’t know if it’s the same in Russell House specifically, but I do have sympathy for other student workers working pretty awful jobs
They should be exempt from assignments that go against their firmly held beliefs, especially since bakeries can refuse to make wedding cakes and pharmacists can refuse to fill prescriptions based on their religious claims.
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that has a coin flip chance to work, I've tried before
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it depends on your situation and who's above you
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Arnold Karr
They should be exempt from assignments that go against their firmly held beliefs, especially since bakeries can refuse to make wedding cakes and pharmacists can refuse to fill prescriptions based on their religious claims.
As Roman said, really depends on your boss. The great thing about Russell is the main people there who tell the student workers what to do kind of, in their own special way, suck.
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Bernie
As Roman said, really depends on your boss. The great thing about Russell is the main people there who tell the student workers what to do kind of, in their own special way, suck.
Greatness is definitely overrated.
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seb it/they
"I'm just doing my job" "well quit your job then"
I saw that, was so fucking based
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cade (he/him) 04/19/2023 1:25 PM
did anyone get a video of the loomermobile actually leaving the lot last night? aka proof of her not having rocks thrown at her
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Nico (she/her) 04/19/2023 1:25 PM
yes
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 1:25 PM
there's a lot of video footage of the event that needs to be processed (faces blurred) and then posted to social media if we want
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cade (he/him) 04/19/2023 1:27 PM
i think that would say everything it needs to about us being labeled as “violent”, showing that the bitch that’s got everybody saying we were violent and threatening was lying
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not that evidence of lies has ever convinced ppl like her followers before 😭
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laura loomer driving over gravel for the first time ever AM I BEING CANCELLED? BY VIOLENT TRANS RADICALS? THIS IS VIOLENCE FROM THE LEFTIST EXTREMISTS!
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Literally rocks being thrown at my car?!?!?!?
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seb it/they
there's a lot of video footage of the event that needs to be processed (faces blurred) and then posted to social media if we want
Hayden (he/they) 04/19/2023 1:30 PM
Who has the ability to do this
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I don’t know how to
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Hayden (he/they) 04/19/2023 1:30 PM
And who has the footage
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if i take 30 minutes to pirate after effects i could probably learn how to do it rq if no one else can
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Hayden (he/they) 04/19/2023 1:31 PM
I could probably do something on a premiere knockoff but I just need the footage
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And I don't have the time to solo this
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I have a cracked copy of sony vegas pro for future endeavors
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 1:31 PM
I have one 8 second video
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I have some but not all of the footage
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/19/2023 1:32 PM
i tried blurring faces for TPUSA and i wasnt able to
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 1:32 PM
@Arnold Karr was recording the whole time
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Hayden (he/they) 04/19/2023 1:32 PM
Okay we need one of the getaway and what else?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/19/2023 1:32 PM
was too hard when the camera moved
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Nico (she/her)
yes
cade (he/him) 04/19/2023 1:33 PM
hi nico
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you know where we can get said footage?
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Nico (she/her) 04/19/2023 1:34 PM
oh I mean I took some footage
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cade (he/him) 04/19/2023 1:34 PM
even better
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Nico (she/her) 04/19/2023 1:34 PM
Not of the whole thing, but just her leaving the parking lot, tho some did run down bull st. a bit
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cade (he/him) 04/19/2023 1:35 PM
i think that’s the part we need, her going from the lot and down bull st
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Hayden (he/they) 04/19/2023 1:35 PM
Okay what would be the safest and most effective way to get it to me
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 1:36 PM
I can email my footage to you if you'd like hayden
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/19/2023 1:36 PM
email is probably best yeah
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 1:36 PM
Actually my footage is short enough to send over signal
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doesnt look too hard
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Signal removes metadata automatically
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Hayden (he/they) 04/19/2023 1:37 PM
Particularly I am going to focus on the getaway footage
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make sure u arent on campus wifi when you do it
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Hayden (he/they) 04/19/2023 1:43 PM
Will do
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We also want to make sure that whatever service we use limits compression on videos. More grain means less clarity, more chance for deception
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I made Kim upset at me because she asked me to help move people and I said something along the lines of I wasn’t going to do her job for her
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Hayden (he/they) 04/19/2023 1:58 PM
Who else can do the video covering so we can split the load? I'm going to redownload HitFilm express tonight, it's very similar to premiere and free
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I made Kim upset at me because she asked me to help move people and I said something along the lines of I wasn’t going to do her job for her
cade (he/him) 04/19/2023 1:59 PM
i think i saw that interaction, she was condescending about it and acted like she was talking to a kid after that
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and i have no experience or skill in video editing but wish everybody who’s able to work on the video the best and all my support
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davinci resolve has a free version and is capable of doing tracking things like this without paying for fancier stuff
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im woefully out of practice and would have to pull some strings to get resolve working on linux, but if anyone else has a computer running windows, i'd recommend resolve
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Hayden (he/they) 04/19/2023 2:25 PM
Anyone have footage from inside of Laura getting flustered and mad about the protests?
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All I got is stills
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cade (he/him) 04/19/2023 2:33 PM
she sort of has the same posture as gru from despicable me
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lmfao right
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cade (he/him)
she sort of has the same posture as gru from despicable me
As someone who also has the strange posture of a cartoon villain, I feel very attacked and quite frankly appalled at this horribly offensive statement Let me hunch in peace 😭
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BenjaminIsaac 04/19/2023 3:33 PM
wait it was just in one of those tiny classroom things? Why did they have to move it from capstone to begin with lol
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they were acting like it was a huge event needing a hotel space
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they claimed it kept moving due to threats, but like they moved it from capstone before our post even went out
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I think it moved from Capstone for space and then from the Graduate to make protesting harder, but they did it the day of so there were only terrible reservation spots left in Russell
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Arnold Karr 04/19/2023 4:10 PM
Was she at all coherent or was she just ranting?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/19/2023 4:11 PM
the bulk of her speach was mostly just hyping up how many people/platforms supposedly banned her
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and then a lot of fearmongering towards the few conservative attendees that "this is what THE LEFT wants to do to you" (edited)
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make them a better, compassionate human being? gross, imagine /s
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THE LEFT wants to trans your beers and trucks
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Arnold Karr 04/19/2023 4:13 PM
Does trans beer drive better or trucks taste better?
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Trans beer drives significantly worse, actually, it’s kind of embarrassing but we support them anyway
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Welp
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Hailey (she/they) 04/19/2023 5:23 PM
Is there anything me or anyone else could do to help?
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It’s all so tiresome
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 5:27 PM
i hope msa didn't catch any flack for it
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For people intending to attend tonight’s DeSantis appearance: any advice or guidance? In general? Sorry if that’s too vague
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I haven’t had the chance to be involved any real-life protests since high school and those were more organized so I am a bit unsure what would be helpful
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/19/2023 5:48 PM
I'm not able to go, but I will say y'all make sure to scope out the area and choose a good location if you can. It can be easy to get boxed in there (church is up on a hill above a highway...there's only a few ways out) and the people of Boiling Springs are a bit on the fash-side of things.
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I don't know exactly what is planned though so whoever is actually going to be there would be much more help. That is just something I've been thinking about since they announced the location.
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Omg, are they asking you to register OAT as a USC student org? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 don't listen to their bullshit, it's not a USC org, so fuck em. Also say you don't lead it, it's a leaderless coalition of activists that share similar ideologies and struggles. Tell them to prove you lead it 🤣🤣
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No they’re giving me a conduct violation
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Oh, well that's bullshit
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That's fucking rediculous, they invite a nazi to promote white nationalism, islamophobia, and transphobia but have an issue because they alleged you didn't like it. Let's get an ACLU lawyer to take a peek and see what they think
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Cyprus
No they’re giving me a conduct violation
what for?
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I may be wrong and just jumping to conclusions because I wanna berate Mark, the dean of students who doesn't know what words mean.
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Sasha
what for?
it's likely Code 6C, being defined as "Making, causing, or continuing any loud, unnecessary, or unusual noise that disrupts the normal operations of the university or infringes on the rights of other members of the university community or in off-campus living communities."
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note that this is obnoxiously broad
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clearly
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ironically, Laura loomer's entire personality violates section 9 within discrimination & harassment
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they could try and get you with failure to comply (17A) but I kinda doubt it
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of course there's no explicit note that pertains to protests or speech of that nature
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also this code of conduct was a bitch to find
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Cyprus
No they’re giving me a conduct violation
Any hint to why they singled you out?
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Name on tv
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is this something you can fight?
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I’m sorry you gotta deal with this, good luck <3
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Hayden (he/they) 04/19/2023 6:33 PM
Last night, USC student organization Uncensored America hosted Laura Loomer on campus after the event was moved from both the Capstone building and Graduate Hotel due to threats. The speech was met with protest from student activists. I'll have more at 4 p.m. on @USCCarolinaNews
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Not a bad photo
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robin (they/it) 04/19/2023 6:47 PM
where is the more?
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Hayden (he/they) 04/19/2023 6:48 PM
I think they have a stream
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There should be a print article as well
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There was a small crowd of protestors outside we joined but they immediately dispersed at ~7 which is a bit disappointing. Was not able to get inside but I did see some people that looked like protestors approaching the entrance
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Camryn Aisling 04/19/2023 7:20 PM
Would someone mind making a summary of events at the loomer protest
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I wasn't really able to keep up with things as they were happening due to a panic attack
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Declan
There was a small crowd of protestors outside we joined but they immediately dispersed at ~7 which is a bit disappointing. Was not able to get inside but I did see some people that looked like protestors approaching the entrance
A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/19/2023 7:22 PM
Spartanburg protests are always weird 🤷🏻. Hopefully more ppl show up
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It was very Liberal Peace and Love vibes
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Lots of people just telling us not to do anything offensive or disruptive
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Mega lame
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they have a right to speak their opinion dont disrupt!!!!🔥
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/19/2023 7:32 PM
Yeah I imagine. I also just never hear about them beforehand. And I don't think it's in the op-sec way.
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I grew up here, have somewhat politically active friends, but don't see graphics until afterwards. Maybe that's a me problem but it is just odd
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Also yes, very hippie peace police
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Asheville residents who pretend to be militant maoists until its time to actually organize to disrupt right wing events
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/19/2023 7:35 PM
Ppl in Asheville claim to be maoists???
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Camryn Aisling
Would someone mind making a summary of events at the loomer protest
robin (they/it) 04/19/2023 7:36 PM
she was very disrupted. she was late to her own event and was not able to speak for the first 30 minutes because we were shouting. there were a lot of people singing and shouting in the hall that one could hear from inside the room. school officials got heated and threatened arrests/school punishments. she was shouted at all the way out the room then we caught her exiting the back and shout at her until her vehicle drove away. hope this is helpful!
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lai
Asheville residents who pretend to be militant maoists until its time to actually organize to disrupt right wing events
There's only 2 kinds of "maoists" in the US, activists that work with grassroots groups and liberals in their newspaper club that they read themselves while shitting on activists for not being "revolutionary" 🤣🤣
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RIP Peoples Tribune 🤣🤣
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whats maoism again
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robin (they/it)
she was very disrupted. she was late to her own event and was not able to speak for the first 30 minutes because we were shouting. there were a lot of people singing and shouting in the hall that one could hear from inside the room. school officials got heated and threatened arrests/school punishments. she was shouted at all the way out the room then we caught her exiting the back and shout at her until her vehicle drove away. hope this is helpful!
Camryn Aisling 04/19/2023 7:50 PM
Wow, that's quite a step up from how the university reacted at the toilet paper usa event
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 7:50 PM
We followed their rules more then
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Camryn Aisling
Would someone mind making a summary of events at the loomer protest
Another good way to recap with some footage is actually to scroll through her twitter, but be warned for transphobia, basically any ism or phobia, and i saw she rt'ed something using the r slur as well if that means anything for you
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Camryn Aisling 04/19/2023 8:02 PM
Oh jesus christ, I'm not scrolling through her twitter
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The videos are gold, with her captions framing the protestors as like violent and weird and then there's just someone playing a guitar and having queer flags
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I don't blame you, I did with a bunch of my friends back in GA because we're all aggressively trans politicals
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But I couldn't have done it alone, since all of the language is just Not Great
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Camryn Aisling 04/19/2023 8:04 PM
Yeah, I don't have anyone to go through it with live
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It'd be significantly less awful with friends
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Like a particularly offensive bad movie night
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Camryn Aisling
Like a particularly offensive bad movie night
yeah it's one of those
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I know we're trying to gather our own footage of the protest for social media, so maybe you'll be able to see some then if you'd like
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There's also some stray videos in either #social-media or here
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/19/2023 8:22 PM
Yeah @Camryn Aisling steer clear of the comments on our Twitter as well then.
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Lotta Loomers came in
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Actually, @Organizer should we maybe make an announcement about that? I don't want ppl going to our Twitter page and inadvertently seeing that shit. (edited)
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A-A-Ron (they/them)
Actually, @Organizer should we maybe make an announcement about that? I don't want ppl going to our Twitter page and inadvertently seeing that shit. (edited)
I Can!
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i browsed them yesterday and I felt pretty awful after
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/19/2023 8:27 PM
Couple right wingers followed us as well, so it's fair to assume it might be a (semi) regular occurrence from now on.
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No they’re giving me a conduct violation
cade (he/him) 04/19/2023 9:27 PM
what exactly does this entail? and if it’s serious, is there anything we can do to help you against it?
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i’m not sure if a conduct violation would mean just a little write up or smth that hinders your actual educational track
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robin (they/it) 04/19/2023 9:28 PM
do we need to break out the lawyer mom
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cade (he/him) 04/19/2023 9:30 PM
that’s what i’m saying cause you didn’t do anything wrong. even with kim or whatever her name is, you communicated clearly with her and we were all well within our rights the entire time as far as i’m concerned.
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robin (they/it)
do we need to break out the lawyer mom
Anabelle (She/Her/Hers) 04/19/2023 9:35 PM
lawyer mom! lawyer mom!
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robin (they/it) 04/19/2023 9:36 PM
shes in chat if anyone needs her @/yobecca
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 9:38 PM
could she answer questions about the heckler's veto?
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robin (they/it) 04/19/2023 9:38 PM
probably idk
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@YoBecca mama do you know things about hecklers veto ?
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cade (he/him) 04/19/2023 9:39 PM
is it just me or is hecklers veto stupid
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like the ppl who were even considered hecklers at this event were removed anyways; but it sounds to me like “one free speech at a time pls!”
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 9:40 PM
im pretty sure what the guy at russel house was telling us has very little legal basis
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cade (he/him) 04/19/2023 9:40 PM
right, when i look it up it feels more like a social idea
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 9:40 PM
my preliminary wikipedia reading confirmed what i said, and i think felix read more about it
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cade (he/him) 04/19/2023 9:41 PM
let’s be real it’s probably only really used by conservatives who want to protect their right to spew hate speech without being told it’s as vile as it is
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 9:42 PM
tbh i'm willing to read the cases about it, just after the semester is over
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i think us pulling out legal counterarguments to the russel guy really upsets him and i gain personal enjoyment from this
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robin (they/it)
@YoBecca mama do you know things about hecklers veto ?
I'm no expert on it -- I haven't focused on First Amendment issues (outside of criminal matters) since law school
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seb it/they
i think us pulling out legal counterarguments to the russel guy really upsets him and i gain personal enjoyment from this
Generally, bluffing with confidence can be super effective, especially if the other person doesn't really know what they're talking about. 😂
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 9:44 PM
yeah he told us that it meant we couldn't entirely drown out someone making a point we don't like
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it seems to only apply to the government/or a large institution refusing to house a speaker/event due to fear of backlash
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do you know where i could start to learn more about it?
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seb it/they
yeah he told us that it meant we couldn't entirely drown out someone making a point we don't like
That's the main gist of the concept.
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 9:45 PM
ah okay
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seb it/they
do you know where i could start to learn more about it?
No off hand but I can try to track down some resources.
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 9:46 PM
i would appreciate that, they keep using this as a tactic to try and shut down our protests
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Was the person talking to y'all about this a LEO, or a school official/employee, or something else?
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 9:46 PM
he was a school offical
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they have like "free speech guardians" or something like that
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robin (they/it) 04/19/2023 9:47 PM
hes a school "1st amendment expert"
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seb it/they
they have like "free speech guardians" or something like that
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 9:47 PM
that's not the acronym, but they're intimidating people "trained in the first amendment"
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basically there to protect USC from getting sued
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cade (he/him) 04/19/2023 9:47 PM
it’s only free speech when they agree with it. at least we can acknowledge the free speech of ppl we disagree with, we just use our free speech right back because theirs is full of bigotry
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Yeah, so sounds like y'all need to be prepared to respond.
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/19/2023 9:48 PM
Loomer multiple times also said hate speech doesnt exist and all speech should be allowed
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 9:48 PM
yeah we've had some very unpleasant expereinces with them, and i don't understand any law stuff
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they tried to tell us we couldn't curse at the TPUSA People, which i know is absolutely incorrect
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seb it/they
im pretty sure what the guy at russel house was telling us has very little legal basis
I’m sure it’s some university or Russell House policy they enforce and are using the wrong term because they’re incompetent and unqualified
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seb it/they
yeah we've had some very unpleasant expereinces with them, and i don't understand any law stuff
There should be some user-friendly resources that break it down.
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 9:49 PM
if you could send some of those my way i would really appreciate it
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i want to make an info graphic about what people can do legally to counter their arguments/restraints
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and to make sure people know their rights and what level of risk they are getting into by certain actions
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
Loomer multiple times also said hate speech doesnt exist and all speech should be allowed
cade (he/him) 04/19/2023 9:50 PM
the most cancelled woman in america cancels an entire phrase and it’s concept
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robin (they/it) 04/19/2023 9:51 PM
she also cancelled a whole country
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cade (he/him) 04/19/2023 9:51 PM
call her hbo max the way she be cancelling everything
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Roman
it's likely Code 6C, being defined as "Making, causing, or continuing any loud, unnecessary, or unusual noise that disrupts the normal operations of the university or infringes on the rights of other members of the university community or in off-campus living communities."
Were they citing to this code in response to the protest?
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 9:51 PM
they were not citing a specific code
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but they were threating to mass send people to student conduct
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and tried to get carolina cards
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which they didn't get
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cade (he/him) 04/19/2023 9:52 PM
what would they do about those that weren’t students?
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just conduct
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 9:52 PM
they threatened arrest a few times
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they also told us we couldn't protest in the hall and tried to move us outside
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seb it/they
they threatened arrest a few times
robin (they/it) 04/19/2023 9:53 PM
brought the piggies over to talk
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cade (he/him) 04/19/2023 9:53 PM
i heard a lot of that part, one of the girls from msa made a lot of strong points to him about why he couldn’t/shouldn’t do that
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 9:53 PM
shout out to the MSA people they were amazing
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You might also consider strategies that they are less able to target as allegedly violating these rules.
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 9:53 PM
one of them approached me today to let me give figaro treats
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We used to do banner drops.
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Accompanied by some shouting and being liud
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Loud
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seb it/they 04/19/2023 9:54 PM
yeah, we've consired doing stuff like that previously, due to rooms getting changed quickly we couldn't decorate beforehand
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But then even if we dispersed....they often couldn't figure out how to get the banner down
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seb it/they
yeah, we've consired doing stuff like that previously, due to rooms getting changed quickly we couldn't decorate beforehand
Yeah, it's best for outside events. Heaven forbid anyone damage property
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Roman
it's likely Code 6C, being defined as "Making, causing, or continuing any loud, unnecessary, or unusual noise that disrupts the normal operations of the university or infringes on the rights of other members of the university community or in off-campus living communities."
cade (he/him) 04/19/2023 9:56 PM
about this, even if they tried to use this code, couldn’t it be challenged under things like the necessity of a protest are entirely subjective, as well as having a fascist speak to a group of 8 fascist simps (uncensored america) isn’t exactly normal operations?
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YoBecca
Were they citing to this code in response to the protest?
No I looked up the student code of conduct
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They chose to bring an inflammatory politically charged event to campus. Thats on them for our reaction
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cade (he/him)
about this, even if they tried to use this code, couldn’t it be challenged under things like the necessity of a protest are entirely subjective, as well as having a fascist speak to a group of 8 fascist simps (uncensored america) isn’t exactly normal operations?
Also....what function of the university is being disrupted? It's not a classroom building or during class time, you're not interfering w/ employees doing their jobs, etc. To the extent it's a function of the school to promote political speech, t's arguably supportive of that goal.
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cade (he/him) 04/19/2023 9:59 PM
you sound like a really good lawyer
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Sorry that was unclear, your protests serve to support that goal. As @laira said, they invited the situation.
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I looked over the Student run org handbook thing and it required all student orgs to write a risk assessment before hosting an on campus event, and it seems that Uncensored America failed to account for that
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cade (he/him) 04/19/2023 10:01 PM
oh but where were the pigs bringing that up to them? 👀
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40% of cops are domestic abuser blah blah yk that spiel
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fuck 12 yk
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cade (he/him) 04/19/2023 10:02 PM
the way i see a new tweet every day about a cop being arrested for actually unspeakable crimes
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cade (he/him)
you sound like a really good lawyer
I'm not saying these arguments would win in front of a school conduct board. But there is an unconstitutionally void for vagueness argument -- you're not really on notice as to what is forbidden. Obviously strong and hateful speech isn't b/c that's what the school is hosting. When, exactly, does a chant become too long or too loud, enough to violate the code? And would 10 observers seeing the conduct all agree it broke the rule? It's an unclear rule, intentionally overbroad so it can be applied as the school wants to.
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Do you think it is worth it to get legal observers of our own for future events?
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Or would that just be adding more people who would tell us what to do
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cade (he/him) 04/19/2023 10:05 PM
i’m not sure to what extent it would be relevant; but i know @Sam McKenzie is a law student and i think in the civil rights area?
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so if we wanted more legal advice or observance
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I generally think, if you're getting heat from administrators or law enforcement type folks, then it's always a good idea to have someone in your group who can be a point person to speak to those people. People who can assert what the protesters' rights are, and who can keep a level head and deescalate (at times) or distract (at times).
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YoBecca
I'm not saying these arguments would win in front of a school conduct board. But there is an unconstitutionally void for vagueness argument -- you're not really on notice as to what is forbidden. Obviously strong and hateful speech isn't b/c that's what the school is hosting. When, exactly, does a chant become too long or too loud, enough to violate the code? And would 10 observers seeing the conduct all agree it broke the rule? It's an unclear rule, intentionally overbroad so it can be applied as the school wants to.
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/19/2023 10:07 PM
I asked them several times explicitly what law they were threatening to arrest us under in the room, the only response was USC policy. When i said that wasnt legally enforceable and asked what policy, they wouldnt cite specific policy, if that helps
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seb it/they
Or would that just be adding more people who would tell us what to do
If there are allies or members who could actually as legal observers, it's worth discussing, I think. But also a non-lawyer person running interference w/ the LEOs can be helpful. And that way everyone else can focus on the action instead of arguing with the cops/admins
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robin (they/it) 04/19/2023 10:08 PM
we need someone on bald guy duty
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cade (he/him) 04/19/2023 10:09 PM
embarrassing, i’ve seen a cop not even know the miranda rights before 😭 had to grab the lil pamphlet they give new guys
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robin (they/it)
we need someone on bald guy duty
Tbh I grew up in a family full of LEOs and law enforcement support staff, if you do need someone comfortable around them and can speak
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outside we had multiple people running interference on LEOs and school officals (shout out to @felix @Cyprus @Victor (they/them)) but our limited knowledge i think was somewhat of a restraint
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(pinging so those people can also ask any questions they might have)
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(also members of the MSA were handling the russell house people very competently)
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(Also could be good to have a plan of different stages of protest -- so if it gets to the point where you can't be loud w/o getting removed or arrested, is there a different strategy you can use to disrupt and/or protest. Like something visual, or phone alarms going off randomly, or....??? What makes sense would depend on what the goal is.)
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seb it/they
(also members of the MSA were handling the russell house people very competently)
Muslim Student Assoc?
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yes
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Victor (they/them) 04/19/2023 10:20 PM
Me and Cyprus talked to Ryan and he said that any student org "in good standing" can invite speakers to campus. So we should look into what is required to move an org into bad standing and see if tpusa or YAF have broken rules. For this event, the org is new, but we could still try to see if theres anything to knock them into bad standing. He said he would be willing to help tho he is still usc admin so theres a distance there.
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On a more positive note, if you’d like an org in good standing to try to bring in a speaker to USC that we’d actually like to have, IRIS and I’m sure CSOC could try if other factors like cost can be covered by the uni
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I don’t speak for CSOC here, though, just IRIS
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( i will speak for csoc)
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we would also try
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lai
40% of cops are domestic abuser blah blah yk that spiel
40% that SELF REPORT, the real number is likely much larger☠
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robin (they/it)
we need someone on bald guy duty
🤣 I wouldn't wish his job on anyone. He sets forth rules he knows he can't enforce.
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Is csoc Carolina socialists? What is iris?
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seb it/they 04/20/2023 1:04 AM
Csoc is Carolina socialists, iris is the queer club on campus
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Arnold Karr 04/20/2023 1:05 AM
Ok. I wonder if there are any Quakers on campus.
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seb it/they 04/20/2023 1:06 AM
I'm not sure I know there are gamecock Lutherans who have been supportive in the past and are in here
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That's the Christian group I've had the most personal interaction with
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Arnold Karr
Ok. I wonder if there are any Quakers on campus.
cade (he/him) 04/20/2023 1:07 AM
if there are we could have quaker oats
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Arnold Karr 04/20/2023 1:10 AM
The ELCA Lutherans are relatively progressive and Quaker OATS would be great. They could be the Bayard Rustin Caucus.
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seb it/they 04/20/2023 1:11 AM
Arnold i declare you the first quaker oat
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Now we just need to find more to make it plural
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Arnold Karr 04/20/2023 1:11 AM
I'm honored!
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Nico (she/her) 04/20/2023 1:12 AM
I'm tempted to make myself some oats right now
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Arnold Karr 04/20/2023 1:12 AM
I might be able to get a professor who's a member to sign on.
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seb it/they 04/20/2023 1:16 AM
Arnold have you heard of the public universal friend?
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There's also an LGBT faculty caucus on campus, in terms of people who may have things to say and the credentials/experience to have something different and substantive to say in a speaker-style setting
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seb it/they 04/20/2023 1:17 AM
Can you put a link to their info or something in #org-building
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cade (he/him) 04/20/2023 1:19 AM
i think the best way to go if we do a joint event would be a panel discussion on anti-fascism and activism against it, the orgs involved could choose maybe 4 speakers, since 1 feels a little too focused and idk who we could get that’s compelling enough to be the only speaker
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seb it/they 04/20/2023 1:20 AM
I actually think it would be best to focus on islamaphobia primarily
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cade (he/him) 04/20/2023 1:20 AM
that way there can be speakers from different expertises, and even areas of sc, like a legal expert, a lawmaker, an experienced activist
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oh
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seb it/they 04/20/2023 1:20 AM
Since that is what has been left out most in the coverage
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cade (he/him) 04/20/2023 1:20 AM
that would be a very good idea as well
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i hate that they always take these stories in such narrow narratives
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you can’t get the whole story without more than 1 side and yet
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seb it/they 04/20/2023 1:21 AM
It could be beneficial to have a panel with multiple perspectives too
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One person there to talk about fascism, several others there to talk about islamaphobia
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I just want to make sure MSA's and Muslim peoples voices are uplifted bc loomer is so directly hateful towards them
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cade (he/him) 04/20/2023 1:22 AM
ofc yeah, i think that’d be the best way to make sure that bases get covered and more than one group is represented
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seb it/they 04/20/2023 1:23 AM
We can talk more to Hasan in the morning
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(i definitely like the idea of multiple speakers though!)
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Okay, so this is directly in response to Loomer specifically and not just the general welcoming of right-wing hatemongers to the university?
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Slay
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seb it/they
Arnold have you heard of the public universal friend?
Arnold Karr 04/20/2023 2:20 AM
I have not.
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Arnold Karr 04/20/2023 2:41 AM
The Wikipedia description of PUF is intriguing.
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I have thought a revival of Susan B. Anthony's Secular Society of Friends would be a good thing.
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I feel like secular society is very easy to accomplish bc as I said at the friends meeting I went to, anything can be the holy spirit; love, friendship, comradery, etc [idk ignore me I've been up all day haha]
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There was a small crowd of protestors outside we joined but they immediately dispersed at ~7 which is a bit disappointing. Was not able to get inside but I did see some people that looked like protestors approaching the entrance
Lynnie (she/her) 04/20/2023 9:04 AM
Thank you for coming. It was..... complicated to pull off. Effectively, some much more privileged people claimed to take lead on organizing something, and then dropped it in my lap Tuesday morning. Knowing so many of the attendees were septuagenarians and I had practically nobody with security experience, I had to opt for minimal risk tactics. Lesson learned - don't trust rich old white cis women.
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seb it/they 04/20/2023 9:05 AM
in the future we are very down to help plan
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this event got a little complicated because of our big action the day before
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Lynnie (she/her) 04/20/2023 9:06 AM
I understand! Y'all did great work, and I was so excited about the impact you had!
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seb it/they 04/20/2023 9:06 AM
thanks
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oh speaking of which if you could check out the MSA's petition and spread it around i would appreciate that
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idk if you saw it
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Lynnie (she/her) 04/20/2023 9:07 AM
I did not - can I be lazy and ask for a link? If not I can search
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seb it/they 04/20/2023 9:07 AM
Say Yes to Respect: Demand Accountability for Inviting Laura Loomer to Speak on Campus
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Lynnie (she/her) 04/20/2023 9:07 AM
On it!
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seb it/they 04/20/2023 9:08 AM
thank you 💜
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Thank you for coming. It was..... complicated to pull off. Effectively, some much more privileged people claimed to take lead on organizing something, and then dropped it in my lap Tuesday morning. Knowing so many of the attendees were septuagenarians and I had practically nobody with security experience, I had to opt for minimal risk tactics. Lesson learned - don't trust rich old white cis women.
I apologize for being so negative without thinking about the difficulties that come with planning this kind of thing. I’m still glad we had an opportunity to do what we did anyway and I appreciate your effort and time
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Pittsburgh /UPitt had a confrontation with Michael Knowles in which very militant tactics were used https://twitter.com/citydeerdistro/status/1649102831830593536?s=46
If it wasn't the firework, it would have been the smoke bombs. If not the smoke bombs, it would have been the effigy. If not the effigy, it would have been yelling at cops. If not the yelling, it would have been showing up in black. Peace police will never be happy, ignore them
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On Tuesday night, students gathered in support of and in opposition to Conservative speaker Laura Loomer, who was hosted by the student group Uncensored America to give a speech on censorship.
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Mark shook the free speech heckler's veto guy is apparently the dean of students (edited)
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“University Spokesperson Jeff Stensland said that while the Carolinian Creed urges students on campus to engage in civil discussion and debate, USC does not prohibit constitutionally protected speech.” Doesn’t it literally say discourage bigotry Though
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Student orgs are allowed to bring bigoted speakers according to ryan gross
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because the university can't take sides about student orgs
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Marc Shook, the dean of students at USC, entered the room with USCPD around 8:45, asked to see people's CarolinaCards and told students that they could potentially be arrested for disrupting the event because of the heckler's veto, which, according to Shook, means that it is illegal to behave in a manner that prohibits a speaker from sharing their views.
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This is a tactic employed by Mark Shook known as "lying"
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man everyone in that photo looks like death
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let's see if I catch a student conduct thing with them quoting me
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This is a lie, I was asking a question which is why he's holding up a fuckin mic for me to use, he wasn't saying anything for me to interrupt
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Hayden (he/they) 04/20/2023 3:30 PM
I'd reach out to the news editor
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The editorially independent student newspaper at the University of South Carolina in Columbia and your source for Gamecock sports, news, opinion and arts and culture.
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how many times in her career has loomer violated USC title IX lmao
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This is a tactic employed by Mark Shook known as "lying"
Love how the article then doesn’t say what the heckler’s veto is
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Hayden (he/they) 04/20/2023 6:06 PM
So Im combing through the footage of Laura leaving and Im noticing a few problems. We dont have any clips that show the entirety of her getting in the car and driving all the way out past the bull garage. The longest one I have is her pulling out of the parking lot, and it cuts with people going up to her car. We dont really have a good way to refute the idea that nobody threw rocks at her car (not saying that would have been a bad thing)
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The other issue is there are so many of us in frame in 80% of the footage that I wont be able to hide people's identities without blocking almost all of the frame. Which makes it look like we are intentionally hiding what they are accusing us of
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Also we got a great shot of someone spitting at/on Laura's car lol
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/20/2023 6:08 PM
the little factoid i use to deny the rock thing is that she was escorted out by a half dozen cops, all of whom had bodycams, and yet no arrests were made.
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Hayden (he/they) 04/20/2023 6:08 PM
Again, this is exclusively the footage of her leaving, I am still going through the rest
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/20/2023 6:08 PM
if we had thrown rocks someone would be in jail right now.
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Hayden (he/they) 04/20/2023 6:11 PM
For clarification, what specifically are we trying to capture? I was looking for ones of her getting flustered by the crowd but I havent found any. I have some of the various chants outside the room and some inside footage
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if we had thrown rocks someone would be in jail right now.
This isn’t necessarily true
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robin (they/it) 04/20/2023 6:30 PM
why do we have to refute the claim ? no one is getting consequences for the accusation and i think its good if laura feels threatened ... (genuine question)
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Hayden (he/they) 04/20/2023 6:31 PM
Well because ideally it would demonstrate that she and her crew just made something up. Obviously we know she did, and people who like her wont care, but its a propaganda victory for us
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It opens up the likelihood that she lied about other shit that evening (which we know she did)
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I am a little hesitant to publish any footage just based on the response the twitter posts got. Unless theres a really good reason to (like if we got footage of her falling down or something). I do think the footage we have from inside with the chants could be worth it
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Well because ideally it would demonstrate that she and her crew just made something up. Obviously we know she did, and people who like her wont care, but its a propaganda victory for us
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/20/2023 6:37 PM
ultimately i already worked in that its a lie in our after-action and i think it covers most of our bases
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id like to catch her red handed too, but their die-hards dont care
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Hayden (he/they) 04/20/2023 6:39 PM
Yeah I think ideally we would get a meme-able clip of her getting mad or looking silly but Idk if we have that
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robin (they/it) 04/20/2023 6:42 PM
can we maybe get some fun images or maybe audio clips and put oatbert in as the image as a post ?
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Hayden (he/they) 04/20/2023 6:50 PM
We certainly could, Im just not sure how to make it have a positive result
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The best would be the footage of laura saying negative and untrue things about muslims, and that doesnt need any editing
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Uncensored America is an awful organization holy shit
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//antisemtism This is what goes on in their discord server with no pushback
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screenshot of the uncensored america discord server showing a meme of fascist streamer nick fuentes pointing at the camera. the text on the image reads “YOU ARE JEWISH”
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We can pretty easily get them banned from USC as a student org
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yeah that tracjs
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/20/2023 7:45 PM
is this a discord for the usc uncensored?
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ill get an alt joined on that server (edited)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
is this a discord for the usc uncensored?
No it’s national
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Fewer members than the oat server
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/20/2023 7:45 PM
lol
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1v1 us uncensored america
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oatbert will crush your fascist schemes
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Tw for the whole server it’s just an open white supremacist space
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I wonder if someone at USC whos with OAT could try to pretend to be interested in joining Uncensored America to see if they have a chapter group chat
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/20/2023 7:47 PM
the problem with that is they are a propped up fake org
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they probably volunteered and/or were paid at the beginning of the semester for this one event
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Yeah exactly
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astroturfed to hell
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I think content from the discord would be enough to get them suspended as a student org
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seb it/they 04/20/2023 7:49 PM
you'd think that
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but we've seen TPUSA do similarlly and not get kicked out
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i think they called a queer student gov person a slur fag last year
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Not to this extent seb
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It’s open Nazi shit
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seb it/they 04/20/2023 7:50 PM
oh okay
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ah
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we should make a file to send of USC them
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then
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maybe we can work with Hasan to send it in?
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robin (they/it) 04/20/2023 7:50 PM
do they have vetting to get in the discord?
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i doubt it
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Not at all
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Don’t join on your main account if you have to look at it
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my pronouns page is kinda rightwing coded if you think abt it /j
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seb it/they 04/20/2023 7:51 PM
on this topic, i think we should have a more intenional internet strategy
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Elaborate?
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seb it/they 04/20/2023 7:52 PM
i just think signal may be more appropriate
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Now since OAT has gotten the attention on social media that it has i agree with reinforcing opsec
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/20/2023 7:55 PM
we are talking about signal for select applications, correct?
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not wholesale replacing the discord?
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Signal is good but iirc it doesnt have the same functionalities of discord
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like channels and pinning messages
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seb it/they 04/20/2023 8:01 PM
signal for a specific application
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seb it/they 04/20/2023 8:20 PM
dm me about it
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Signal is nice for audio messages
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Hey y'all, I know this is very short notice and most of y'all are a little far away, but Protect NC Kids is on some more bullshit this Wednesday at a clinic in Charlotte. I know this is during work hours and it's in 2 days but if you can show up, PLEASE show up and if you can't, please spread this around to people around the Charlotte area.
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Hey y'all, I know this is very short notice and most of y'all are a little far away, but Protect NC Kids is on some more bullshit this Wednesday at a clinic in Charlotte. I know this is during work hours and it's in 2 days but if you can show up, PLEASE show up and if you can't, please spread this around to people around the Charlotte area.
seb it/they 04/24/2023 8:38 PM
@Upstate SC @Outside SC
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Hey y'all, I know this is very short notice and most of y'all are a little far away, but Protect NC Kids is on some more bullshit this Wednesday at a clinic in Charlotte. I know this is during work hours and it's in 2 days but if you can show up, PLEASE show up and if you can't, please spread this around to people around the Charlotte area.
seb it/they 04/24/2023 8:38 PM
can you add alt text to the image (edited)
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Hey y'all, I know this is very short notice and most of y'all are a little far away, but Protect NC Kids is on some more bullshit this Wednesday at a clinic in Charlotte. I know this is during work hours and it's in 2 days but if you can show up, PLEASE show up and if you can't, please spread this around to people around the Charlotte area.
seb it/they 04/24/2023 8:39 PM
@Organizer can someone make this into an announcement @social_media can we promote/repost this
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can you add alt text to the image (edited)
I would love to, how do I do that?
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Oh damn I missed that we had tags for this kinda thing, thank you
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seb it/they 04/24/2023 8:40 PM
on discord you have to reupload the image to do it (very frustrating) but if you just put the text of the image in a message and add it as a reply to the orginal image i'm also happy with that
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@Organizer can someone make this into an announcement @social_media can we promote/repost this
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/24/2023 8:40 PM
to clarify we should probably do something to the message first
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that poster is just unedited anti-trans garbage and i dont want to be free publicity for them (edited)
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seb it/they 04/24/2023 8:41 PM
yes we should make a cool edit
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@Kudzu what groups are showing up/is there any specific things you'd want in an edit
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/24/2023 8:41 PM
yeah if we could work off an existing hack of that graphic that would be cool, has anyone already organized? (edited)
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None that I know of. I just heard about this a few minutes ago
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Hey y'all, I know this is very short notice and most of y'all are a little far away, but Protect NC Kids is on some more bullshit this Wednesday at a clinic in Charlotte. I know this is during work hours and it's in 2 days but if you can show up, PLEASE show up and if you can't, please spread this around to people around the Charlotte area.
posting this in some charlotte lefty groups im in
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We have a full week to plan lfgg
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/24/2023 8:42 PM
um
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we have 2 days
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its on the 26th
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Oh nvm I thought it was this weekend
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seb it/they 04/24/2023 8:42 PM
yeah cyp lol
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no it's wednesday
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/24/2023 8:42 PM
i do not have the beans for this
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(new athena variant of spoons)
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seb it/they 04/24/2023 8:43 PM
this is the seb variant of spoons lol
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mostly bc i am almost exclusively fueled by beans
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/24/2023 8:44 PM
i will neither confirm nor deny the existance of a cabinet in my house that is entirely filled with canned beans
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posting this in some charlotte lefty groups im in
Yo can you dm me?
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Hey y'all, I know this is very short notice and most of y'all are a little far away, but Protect NC Kids is on some more bullshit this Wednesday at a clinic in Charlotte. I know this is during work hours and it's in 2 days but if you can show up, PLEASE show up and if you can't, please spread this around to people around the Charlotte area.
seb it/they 04/24/2023 8:45 PM
@Socialist Rifle Association @John Brown Gun Club
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Hey y'all, I know this is very short notice and most of y'all are a little far away, but Protect NC Kids is on some more bullshit this Wednesday at a clinic in Charlotte. I know this is during work hours and it's in 2 days but if you can show up, PLEASE show up and if you can't, please spread this around to people around the Charlotte area.
just shared with some anti fascist butch lesbians i know in charlotte :3
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IM an anti-fascist butch (lol not really) lesbian in Charlotte!!!!
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socool
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/24/2023 9:37 PM
im a butch if i believe hard enough
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The real butch was in our hearts this whole time
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/24/2023 10:37 PM
the real butch was the friends we made along the way
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seriously they're all butches
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Statehouse numbers for abortion thing needed tomorrow?
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AsterTheDisaster 04/25/2023 1:24 AM
Quick reminder that a student was assaulted at the @UncensoredAm event last Tuesday and there’s been no accountability or statement of condemnation by OAT SC for the actions of their members. In addition, no press attention by @thegamecock. Is political violence not newsworthy?
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AsterTheDisaster 04/25/2023 5:53 AM
I'm curious on some of y'all's thoughts. As a disabled/chronically ill and probably autistic person I have very different energy capacity than a lot of other people. sometimes planning and doing protests just isn't possible for me. And in spaces like Clemson I know I'm not going to change many minds by following a lot of common protest strategies. For me though, I find it important to still do something to show the community that not everyone stands for certain ideas (of course a lot of times I'm not standing for anything bc chronic pain 🤣) some different avenues I've thought of or done is things like alternative events, writing and submitting to the school paper, holding welcoming spaces for students during said event to provide somewhere for us to like be, sharing and promoting other student activist who are protesting. But it just never feels like enough. I never feel satisfied with responses to issues. It feels like I'm always throwing myself into a protest or sitting here with these feelings and nothing I'm ever physically capable of feels like it makes any actual change. I've only recently come out in the first place and finally am able to make choices and have time to dedicate to causes and I'm already feeling burnt out. A lot of y'all here are more experienced with these things how do you all determine how to approach things? And if you're comfortable sharing, how does things like disability and other identities play into how you approach things? (And none of this is to discredit any type of approach this is just coming from my experience with my limiting factors. I'm not always the best with words so I hope I made that clear. ) (edited)
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Man I h8 capitalism and that I have to work and can't be at protests most of the time. But I might be getting a promotion soon so hoping I can at least donate money towards stuff 🙏
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I'm curious on some of y'all's thoughts. As a disabled/chronically ill and probably autistic person I have very different energy capacity than a lot of other people. sometimes planning and doing protests just isn't possible for me. And in spaces like Clemson I know I'm not going to change many minds by following a lot of common protest strategies. For me though, I find it important to still do something to show the community that not everyone stands for certain ideas (of course a lot of times I'm not standing for anything bc chronic pain 🤣) some different avenues I've thought of or done is things like alternative events, writing and submitting to the school paper, holding welcoming spaces for students during said event to provide somewhere for us to like be, sharing and promoting other student activist who are protesting. But it just never feels like enough. I never feel satisfied with responses to issues. It feels like I'm always throwing myself into a protest or sitting here with these feelings and nothing I'm ever physically capable of feels like it makes any actual change. I've only recently come out in the first place and finally am able to make choices and have time to dedicate to causes and I'm already feeling burnt out. A lot of y'all here are more experienced with these things how do you all determine how to approach things? And if you're comfortable sharing, how does things like disability and other identities play into how you approach things? (And none of this is to discredit any type of approach this is just coming from my experience with my limiting factors. I'm not always the best with words so I hope I made that clear. ) (edited)
I'm autistic and have some uh severe mental issues at times so I can relate a bit. Sometimes you just don't have the spoons to do things. I think whats important is that you set realistic limits for yourself, don't expect yourself to be able to go to every action/protest/class/etc. Don't put the burden of solving trans issues on yourself just for going to an event. Most times a protest isn't a place to convert people, its just a show of already existing support; and it's not on you to do one on one talks with liberals and 'moderates' at more intimate events. I've noticed left activists also don't extend the same grace to themselves as they do other people; for instance the same way you'd be ok if I said 'I can't come, bad mental health day.' you might not accept that as a 'valid' reason for yourself not to do things force yourself to go and feel ten times worse. It's ok to need to rest. Better rest one day and do another thing when your ready then just burn out and play World of Warcraft all day for a week [totally not telling on my past self >.>] Sorry if this is rambley [I know no other way to write tbh] but this is stuff I did constantly until last year maybe. I went to everything possible and did everything and just burnt myself out hard. Hope this was helpful or coherent in the slightest 😅
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seb it/they 04/25/2023 9:19 AM
i can also respond to this later ( i have a lot of thoughts) but i'm in medical crisis myself rn
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I'm curious on some of y'all's thoughts. As a disabled/chronically ill and probably autistic person I have very different energy capacity than a lot of other people. sometimes planning and doing protests just isn't possible for me. And in spaces like Clemson I know I'm not going to change many minds by following a lot of common protest strategies. For me though, I find it important to still do something to show the community that not everyone stands for certain ideas (of course a lot of times I'm not standing for anything bc chronic pain 🤣) some different avenues I've thought of or done is things like alternative events, writing and submitting to the school paper, holding welcoming spaces for students during said event to provide somewhere for us to like be, sharing and promoting other student activist who are protesting. But it just never feels like enough. I never feel satisfied with responses to issues. It feels like I'm always throwing myself into a protest or sitting here with these feelings and nothing I'm ever physically capable of feels like it makes any actual change. I've only recently come out in the first place and finally am able to make choices and have time to dedicate to causes and I'm already feeling burnt out. A lot of y'all here are more experienced with these things how do you all determine how to approach things? And if you're comfortable sharing, how does things like disability and other identities play into how you approach things? (And none of this is to discredit any type of approach this is just coming from my experience with my limiting factors. I'm not always the best with words so I hope I made that clear. ) (edited)
pickles- they/them (mel) 04/25/2023 9:23 AM
You are more than enough! Everything you do has a ripple effect, and sometimes the big flashy shit does nothing but make for good photo ops. One of the best organizers I know is disabled and not always able to access rah rah in person protests. (edited)
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I'm curious on some of y'all's thoughts. As a disabled/chronically ill and probably autistic person I have very different energy capacity than a lot of other people. sometimes planning and doing protests just isn't possible for me. And in spaces like Clemson I know I'm not going to change many minds by following a lot of common protest strategies. For me though, I find it important to still do something to show the community that not everyone stands for certain ideas (of course a lot of times I'm not standing for anything bc chronic pain 🤣) some different avenues I've thought of or done is things like alternative events, writing and submitting to the school paper, holding welcoming spaces for students during said event to provide somewhere for us to like be, sharing and promoting other student activist who are protesting. But it just never feels like enough. I never feel satisfied with responses to issues. It feels like I'm always throwing myself into a protest or sitting here with these feelings and nothing I'm ever physically capable of feels like it makes any actual change. I've only recently come out in the first place and finally am able to make choices and have time to dedicate to causes and I'm already feeling burnt out. A lot of y'all here are more experienced with these things how do you all determine how to approach things? And if you're comfortable sharing, how does things like disability and other identities play into how you approach things? (And none of this is to discredit any type of approach this is just coming from my experience with my limiting factors. I'm not always the best with words so I hope I made that clear. ) (edited)
A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/25/2023 9:30 AM
As someone who has mobility issues, I can relate to a lot of this as well. I feel disheartened not being able to always make protests and events, but as someone who has been stranded, both in my own life and at protests, I've realized it's best I just actually set realistic goals and limits for myself (as Kiral said). And, to piggyback off Kiral again, it's not up to us as individuals, which is where organizing comes in. On top of my specific needs and limitations, I also have certain things I'm able to offer that other ppl don't. I think it's been helpful for me to try and find a niche(s)...I still beat myself up a lot, but at the end of the day I just have to remind myself I'm doing what I'm able to do, as a disabled, poor working person. I also look for things I can do. I can't March around for hours, but I can do some care work. I can take first aid classes, stop the bleed courses. I can send money, provide food/water stations. I can read and give some insight on topics, or set up reading groups to learn with people and grow bonds within an org. Idk...there's a lot of that I want to do more of, and things I need to do again (my first aid is expired). And there's also a lot I've probably heard about before and thought "hmm, I could try that." and just can't remember now lol.
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seb it/they 04/25/2023 9:34 AM
(i think carework is the most important thing to do rn)
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/25/2023 9:34 AM
Re-reading myself and gonna be a bit more pointed: I'm biased a bit bc I've been reading about care work a lot recently, and I've done care work...but I actually do think different types of care work are vital for us. As someone who has needed a lot of care work, both for physical and mental health reasons, I think that it's vital that we are the people doing this work within the movements. (edited)
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Matt Cox he/him 04/25/2023 9:34 AM
As someone who is generally able-bodied and neurotypical, it is not easy to organize one’s life around things for which you have little to no support. While I am not aware of this being a specific policy with the intent of crushing independent organization, the side effect of capitalism at least is that we all have to manage things that we were supposed to do as a community. There is a meme that says “modern life consists of doing things that you were supposed to do with a community, and wondering why you’re so tired all the time.” That’s an extremely valid take. I’m constantly kicking myself for not being more involved, but my wife has mental health issues and foisting the children onto her or my rapidly aging support network degrades their ability to manage their own stuff and I feel trapped between responsibilities, to community and the world and to family. These may not be your struggles, but we are all piled with shit that keeps us from doing anything to make a better world before creating our own personal universe with us as the center, a god with more responsibility than power. It’s frustrating as all hell. These feelings are super valid.
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(i think carework is the most important thing to do rn)
A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/25/2023 9:35 AM
Lol we sent this at the same time
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seb it/they 04/25/2023 9:35 AM
also matt i would totally watch your kiddos so you could go to an event
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stuff like that goes both ways
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/25/2023 9:37 AM
Yeah @Matt Cox he/him me too
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also matt i would totally watch your kiddos so you could go to an event
seb it/they 04/25/2023 9:38 AM
to build on this i would watch your kiddos if you and your wife just needed a break from them too lol, and this goes for and child-having people here
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(i think carework is the most important thing to do rn)
seb it/they 04/25/2023 9:47 AM
aster, i would recommend you read "carework" and "the future is disabled" by Leah Lakshmi Piepzna-Samarasinha @AsterTheDisaster (also abled people should read these books too, they are important) (edited)
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Matt Cox he/him 04/25/2023 9:48 AM
I greatly appreciate you all. I have never met a more devoted group of community activists
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But yeah, trying to manage one’s own life, as well as the responsibilities piled on us through social expectations is frustrating and difficult on the best days, I can’t imagine how hard it can be when mobility and mental health issues add to it
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Matt Cox he/him 04/25/2023 9:59 AM
To piggyback on what Kiral said, we give other people a world of understanding, and expect us ourselves to be perfect and indefatigable and constantly vigilant. The saying “love thy neighbor as thyself” is an invitation to give ourselves the same break we give other people. What does loving others as ourselves mean if we do not love ourselves? And if there’s anyway, any of us can help, don’t be shy. I admit I should practice what I preach, lol
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pickles- they/them (mel)
You are more than enough! Everything you do has a ripple effect, and sometimes the big flashy shit does nothing but make for good photo ops. One of the best organizers I know is disabled and not always able to access rah rah in person protests. (edited)
the ripple effect is VERY real even if it's just one person
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it really only takes one person to draft an op-ed for the local paper, or to draft a press release if we're doing an event
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and that stuff can reach dozens, even hundreds of people
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Man I h8 capitalism and that I have to work and can't be at protests most of the time. But I might be getting a promotion soon so hoping I can at least donate money towards stuff 🙏
We all hate it too, but take care of yourself first ❤️ maybe just share whatever flyers, info, resources or support you can until you have time, energy, or funds to spare, y'know? It's easy to feel guilty or like what you're doing is enough but tbh all of us are spending energy, time, and emotional effort being here and caring so much about these issues and people ❤️ @ myself and everyone in here as well. i don't think we're ever not doing enough, we all seem so exhausted or on the brink already. I'll say it again here, we can't pour from an empty cup 🥺 ❤️ also the prior responses are so good too. very well-put and helped me out even more (edited)
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Good luck to those at the State House today!
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Update on the clinic action tomorrow: The clinic does not want us there at all. They want as little attention paid to this as possible. It sucks that we did all this work for them to tell us we're not wanted, but it is ultimately their decision. IMO this is a terrible choice and it's just going to embolden the shitheads that show up to yell at trans kids to do worse things in the apparent absence of opposition. if y'all can spread this info to y'all's contacts, that'd be great.
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@social_media this needs to be shared
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/25/2023 2:15 PM
How much detail should we give? Should we just say canceled? The clinic has asked us not to show up? Keep it short and simple I'm assuming
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/25/2023 2:16 PM
say the clinic doesnt want us there (edited)
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thats important
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/25/2023 2:16 PM
Okay I'll get on that shortly
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pickles- they/them (mel)
@Carrie (she/her) Carrie started a collective called Access Abolition SC, and I can’t wait to collab! https://instagram.com/accessabolitionsc?igshid=Mzc1MmZhNjY= (edited)
Carrie (she/her) 04/25/2023 2:22 PM
Thanks for the signal boost @pickles- they/them (mel) ! And they're right I can't always get ride to events but you can always provide virtual advertising for said events, send in testimony, call or write your legislators, etc. I have the personal number of my house rep. You can also host virtual care spaces after protests. Y
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I'm curious on some of y'all's thoughts. As a disabled/chronically ill and probably autistic person I have very different energy capacity than a lot of other people. sometimes planning and doing protests just isn't possible for me. And in spaces like Clemson I know I'm not going to change many minds by following a lot of common protest strategies. For me though, I find it important to still do something to show the community that not everyone stands for certain ideas (of course a lot of times I'm not standing for anything bc chronic pain 🤣) some different avenues I've thought of or done is things like alternative events, writing and submitting to the school paper, holding welcoming spaces for students during said event to provide somewhere for us to like be, sharing and promoting other student activist who are protesting. But it just never feels like enough. I never feel satisfied with responses to issues. It feels like I'm always throwing myself into a protest or sitting here with these feelings and nothing I'm ever physically capable of feels like it makes any actual change. I've only recently come out in the first place and finally am able to make choices and have time to dedicate to causes and I'm already feeling burnt out. A lot of y'all here are more experienced with these things how do you all determine how to approach things? And if you're comfortable sharing, how does things like disability and other identities play into how you approach things? (And none of this is to discredit any type of approach this is just coming from my experience with my limiting factors. I'm not always the best with words so I hope I made that clear. ) (edited)
Carrie (she/her) 04/25/2023 2:30 PM
I have started a disability justice organizing group @Access Abolition SC to address some of the barriers to in-person protests and alternatives to them. If you would like to be a part of AASC please let me know. I'd love to have you either as another organizer or volunteer. We will attempt to do both in-person and virtual events
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A-A-Ron (they/them)
How much detail should we give? Should we just say canceled? The clinic has asked us not to show up? Keep it short and simple I'm assuming
I'm gonna go ahead and delete the post too
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/25/2023 2:32 PM
I already did
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oh! thank you aaron I just kept getting notifications for likes and assumed it was the old post
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/25/2023 2:33 PM
On Insta* Its not on Twitter (not sure if that's bc we never posted it or someone else already deleted)
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A-A-Ron (they/them)
As someone who has mobility issues, I can relate to a lot of this as well. I feel disheartened not being able to always make protests and events, but as someone who has been stranded, both in my own life and at protests, I've realized it's best I just actually set realistic goals and limits for myself (as Kiral said). And, to piggyback off Kiral again, it's not up to us as individuals, which is where organizing comes in. On top of my specific needs and limitations, I also have certain things I'm able to offer that other ppl don't. I think it's been helpful for me to try and find a niche(s)...I still beat myself up a lot, but at the end of the day I just have to remind myself I'm doing what I'm able to do, as a disabled, poor working person. I also look for things I can do. I can't March around for hours, but I can do some care work. I can take first aid classes, stop the bleed courses. I can send money, provide food/water stations. I can read and give some insight on topics, or set up reading groups to learn with people and grow bonds within an org. Idk...there's a lot of that I want to do more of, and things I need to do again (my first aid is expired). And there's also a lot I've probably heard about before and thought "hmm, I could try that." and just can't remember now lol.
Carrie (she/her) 04/25/2023 2:34 PM
I agree with everything you just said ! It's the things that may seem small that make a big impact.
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Hayden (he/they) 04/25/2023 3:50 PM
Just a heads up, I filed a title ix report against harut specifically for last week's event. I deliberately didn't put my name or contact except my real number to see what would happen. Their office just left a message referring to me by my first name
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Just be careful with that
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Hmmm I wonder if a google voice number could mask it
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Hayden (he/they) 04/25/2023 4:12 PM
That's what I'm thinking
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Hayden (he/they) 04/26/2023 8:34 AM
Arnold let me know that the meeting house is open Saturday morning of 5/13 if we want to make cookies then
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seb it/they 04/26/2023 8:38 AM
Cookies should start at 9
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Still that's a right turnaround
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/26/2023 8:42 AM
if we're careful about it that will work
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seb it/they 04/26/2023 8:42 AM
Yeah
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We'd need carpool there and back
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And a shorter cookie recipe
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/26/2023 8:43 AM
my intent was to buy premade dough (edited)
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Hayden (he/they) 04/26/2023 8:44 AM
Friday night is also an option if that's too short
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Also I completely forgot, but going to be in a wedding on the 13th lol
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So I'm no help there
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Also I completely forgot, but going to be in a wedding on the 13th lol
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/26/2023 8:56 AM
congratulations on your marriage hayden
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praying this one doesn't end in divorce like '89 did
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Hayden (he/they) 04/26/2023 8:58 AM
Yeah still working on the alimony from that one
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pickles- they/them (mel) 04/26/2023 10:15 AM
@everyone the senate is filibustering the terrible abortion ban today stating at 1p. If you can come and show support and solidarity in the lobby that would be great! Shit is heating up and there have been threats of violence from the antis
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Sadly I have to write an entire essay
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wishing luck though !
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pickles- they/them (mel)
@everyone the senate is filibustering the terrible abortion ban today stating at 1p. If you can come and show support and solidarity in the lobby that would be great! Shit is heating up and there have been threats of violence from the antis
any specific antis you're worried about? can dm if necessary
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pickles- they/them (mel)
@everyone the senate is filibustering the terrible abortion ban today stating at 1p. If you can come and show support and solidarity in the lobby that would be great! Shit is heating up and there have been threats of violence from the antis
I can go, would someone walk with me
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any specific antis you're worried about? can dm if necessary
pickles- they/them (mel) 04/26/2023 10:17 AM
Combover coalition
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regan-they
I can go, would someone walk with me
robin (they/it) 04/26/2023 10:17 AM
i can
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I found someone, but if you would like to join us that’d work too
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@robin (they/it)
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robin (they/it) 04/26/2023 10:26 AM
i will bike there closer to 1
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robin (they/it) 04/26/2023 1:34 PM
im at the state house and one of my professors is here which is funny
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pickles- they/them (mel) 04/26/2023 1:35 PM
Combover bigots successfully blocked this morning! Thanks to all who participated.
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pickles- they/them (mel)
Combover bigots successfully blocked this morning! Thanks to all who participated.
Carrie (she/her) 04/26/2023 1:35 PM
YES
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pickles- they/them (mel)
Combover coalition
Hayden (he/they) 04/26/2023 1:39 PM
That can't be the real name right?
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Hayden (he/they)
That can't be the real name right?
Carrie (she/her) 04/26/2023 1:39 PM
It should be.
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Hayden (he/they)
That can't be the real name right?
pickles- they/them (mel) 04/26/2023 1:39 PM
Lol! Define “real”
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It’s real to me. Maybe not to them
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Hayden (he/they) 04/26/2023 1:39 PM
Kudos to whoever coined that one
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pickles- they/them (mel) 04/26/2023 1:40 PM
But to them, I am not real
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Hayden (he/they)
Kudos to whoever coined that one
Carrie (she/her) 04/26/2023 1:40 PM
Right?
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robin (they/it) 04/26/2023 2:03 PM
make it mandatory for senators to read one book that is not the bible
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Carrie (she/her) 04/26/2023 2:26 PM
For real
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Senators should have to read toward the queerest insurrection (joke)
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robin (they/it) 04/26/2023 2:28 PM
bro has been up here talking about the bible for 30 minutes
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Carrie (she/her) 04/26/2023 2:30 PM
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Jesus in the sky listening to him talk.
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robin (they/it) 04/26/2023 2:30 PM
yeah
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Carrie (she/her) 04/26/2023 2:31 PM
He needs to be voted out
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robin (they/it) 04/26/2023 2:32 PM
there is a sword in here for some reason, and i so desperately want someone to stab him
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robin (they/it)
make it mandatory for senators to read one book that is not the bible
Logan (he/him) 04/26/2023 3:08 PM
I doubt if most of them even read the bible tbh
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Logan (he/him)
I doubt if most of them even read the bible tbh
Carrie (she/her) 04/26/2023 3:09 PM
This
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robin (they/it) 04/26/2023 3:09 PM
they are reading from the bible as evidence for no abortions
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/26/2023 3:14 PM
They missed the section on abortions then lol
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robin (they/it)
they are reading from the bible as evidence for no abortions
why is that even allowed?
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It's not considered a reputable source either but not like we ever require those.
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South Carolina State House Protest and March Don’t Drag Us Down Friday, may 5th 4pm-6pm A march and peaceful protest in support of drag entertainers, supporters, advocates, and individuals for Justice and LGBTQIA+ equality in The State of South Carolina
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We were sent this via instagram
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cade (he/him) 04/26/2023 6:05 PM
who’s it organized by?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/26/2023 6:05 PM
^^^^
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Trying to figure that out
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/26/2023 6:06 PM
Put your damn org logos on your stuff liberals aaaaaaaaaa
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We were sent it by shye.nee
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A drag queen from Lexington
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Actually I think not having logos on things is good
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It allows for more autonomous action
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/26/2023 6:06 PM
Hard disagree
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Cyprus
It allows for more autonomous action
how?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/26/2023 6:07 PM
Could be PSL for all we know
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seb it/they 04/26/2023 6:07 PM
nah PSL would have their logo ALL over it
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/26/2023 6:07 PM
All it means is people go in unprepared
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PSL would plaster their shit
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It’s a lib march
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It’s fine
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/26/2023 6:07 PM
Im not literally saying its them in this case, in general
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i heard abt this from my therapist actually- no clue who it is
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Overall very weird exchange
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/26/2023 9:24 PM
not too out of the norm for lib's
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they like to pretend they have opsec
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Yeah this is someone who hasn’t organized before
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Although conceptually I definitely support a drag Queen rally that sounds kinda fun
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seb it/they 04/26/2023 9:26 PM
i'd invite the queen in here if you want
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In Person protests
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Wait mega autism
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I sent her this invite link
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Cyprus
In Person protests
Y’all I just typed out the last thought I had without any further consideration
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seb it/they
i'd invite the queen in here if you want
robin (they/it) 04/26/2023 9:32 PM
are you saying invite the person cyprus is messaging in to the discord or invite queens who are in this discord to the protest?
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seb it/they 04/26/2023 9:32 PM
first one
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seb it/they
i'd invite the queen in here if you want
What queen do we have here?
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seb it/they 04/26/2023 9:32 PM
but the second one is probably also a good idea
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I only know of the king, Han
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/26/2023 9:32 PM
im about 90% sure theres a couple
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but i forgor their names
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Should we have a campus rally or something over uncensored America idk
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robin (they/it) 04/26/2023 10:14 PM
when school is like over ? (this souns sassy but idk how to not make it sound like that)
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Yeah idk about timing or if it would go anywhere
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I really want to take the momentum we have and turn it into action
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Having a horseshoe or Osborne building march to be like “kick bigots off campus”
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I really want to take the momentum we have and turn it into action
robin (they/it) 04/26/2023 10:17 PM
i understand that, the timing is really bad unless we do something tomorrow
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I don’t really know if anything would be effective
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i think this is a bad idea tbh
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I am spitballing
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/26/2023 10:26 PM
i agree with seb
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Cyprus
I am spitballing
i think a small event to make sure the conversation is still going into next semester would be good
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Logan (he/him) 04/26/2023 10:29 PM
Can we really keep it going for 3 months tho
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yeah i kinda doubt a small or even large protest will keep shit going
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i doesnt have to be specific against UA
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i am thinking of the voros campaign which sputtered out after a summer break
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with MUCH larger momentum/personal concern of students
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the seasonality of university is always a huge issue
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 04/26/2023 10:31 PM
We've got the following on socials now, we can do queer joy and the podcast over the summer to keep us relevant. Then I'm sure some rw group will give us stuff to do once classes start again. Imo
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As someone not in college, tbf*
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Logan (he/him) 04/26/2023 10:31 PM
If UA does something during the fall then maybe we could get something going in terms of protest
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A-A-Ron (they/them)
We've got the following on socials now, we can do queer joy and the podcast over the summer to keep us relevant. Then I'm sure some rw group will give us stuff to do once classes start again. Imo
Logan (he/him) 04/26/2023 10:32 PM
I second both of those ideas
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seb it/they
i am thinking of the voros campaign which sputtered out after a summer break
Camryn Aisling 04/26/2023 10:33 PM
Wait, did they not get voros out of there?
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uh kinda
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it's complicated
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Logan (he/him) 04/26/2023 10:33 PM
He retired I believe
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i think he no longer works at usc
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but several of the other professors invovled either still work at usc or resigned without admiting fault
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It sucks that this happened so close to the end of the school year
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usc still has somewhat of a large professors assaulting students problem afaik but i'm tired as fuck and somewhat incoherent so take everythin i say with many large grains of salt
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Logan (he/him) 04/26/2023 10:35 PM
Yea it's finals week and most of the students body will be out of Cola during the summer so timing ain't exactly ideal
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/26/2023 10:35 PM
he retired over a year after the last fire voros efforts, it was probably legal battles that got him in the end
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as far as im aware there is still ongoing litigation (edited)
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The Title IX office doesnt close over summer i dont think
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yeah i'm not confident in them
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they're still worth a shot, but USC's title IX process is famously fucked up
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Pressuring them through title ix or threatening legal action (not necessarily via oat)
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/26/2023 10:37 PM
im just not confidant in rallies to fix this kind of issue, its a square peg for a round hole in my opinion
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we show up, everyone there is already on our side, we leave
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feels good, but not much else
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Logan (he/him)
He retired I believe
Camryn Aisling 04/26/2023 10:38 PM
Lemme guess: with full benefits?
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Logan (he/him) 04/26/2023 10:49 PM
prob tbh
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Victor (they/them) 04/27/2023 10:34 AM
Yea I dont see a rally helping here
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
im just not confidant in rallies to fix this kind of issue, its a square peg for a round hole in my opinion
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/27/2023 2:22 PM
been thinking about this. i believe a far more effective in person move would be as follows: -first, we need to find specific offices and people within those offices who have responability here. get the office locations, contact info, etc -start sending people, maybe in groups of 2-3, every couple of days for as long as we can. this allows us to extend the attention on this problem for far longer than aa rally. it also has a side benefit of making us look less like a large group going after 1 person, no matter how justified we are. we can optionally post a call to action on socials with the data from step 1 (office location, phone, etc) as a call to action, which oat members then follow (edited)
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Victor (they/them) 04/27/2023 3:26 PM
I like the idea of going consistently in small groups and just annoying the admins until they do something.
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Hayden (he/they) 04/27/2023 3:28 PM
Alternatively, have different people fill out title ix forms every week or so
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Technically it's fair ground
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Especially people personally impacted
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Also title IX office asked if anyone who was at the Loomer protest had specific complaints about individuals
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seb it/they 04/27/2023 3:28 PM
Harut
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robin (they/it) 04/27/2023 3:29 PM
there is video proof of harut being fatphobic
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I’m currently looking at harut
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Irl
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He is in my vicinity
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The terror
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robin (they/it) 04/27/2023 3:29 PM
on purpose ?
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seb it/they 04/27/2023 3:29 PM
The comments he made about loomer were very sexual as well
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lumenbos (they/he) 04/27/2023 3:29 PM
@Roxy she/her @Barkboy do y'all remember some specifics
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robin (they/it)
on purpose ?
By accident
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Hayden (he/they)
Alternatively, have different people fill out title ix forms every week or so
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/27/2023 3:30 PM
i think both are an option
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digital persistence and physical persistance
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By accident
robin (they/it) 04/27/2023 3:30 PM
good luck dont die
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Also title IX office asked if anyone who was at the Loomer protest had specific complaints about individuals
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/27/2023 3:30 PM
yeah harut was very fatphobic and also ableist/sanist on several occasions
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There’s a video of the whole event up on YouTube
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/27/2023 3:31 PM
unfortunately the audio feed for their video came from the speaker mike
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most of the crowd cannot be heard except for specific incedents where sean turned it all the way up because he thought it was a "sick burn" or whatever
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robin (they/it) 04/27/2023 3:31 PM
there is still some of the fatphobia in the video
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/27/2023 3:32 PM
luckily for us, one of those moments includes harut's fatphobia
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ableism is probably the best avenue for a title ix report including Harut
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robin (they/it) 04/27/2023 3:35 PM
he told us we were all mentally unstable or something
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we also have video evidence of him calling us the failures of society
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The comments he made about loomer were very sexual as well
robin (they/it) 04/27/2023 3:38 PM
i have video evidence of this too
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
i think both are an option
Hayden (he/they) 04/27/2023 3:38 PM
Very true
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I know Dylan did some heckling, we have any footage of him?
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robin (they/it) 04/27/2023 3:39 PM
not that i remeber
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seb it/they 04/27/2023 3:42 PM
I'm not super optimistic that ableism will actually get treated seriously by title ix
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It's still worth a try but i just do not believe
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I think it's more likely than anything anti-fat though and I don't think there's a lot else to hit Harut on (edited)
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seb it/they 04/27/2023 3:43 PM
Yes definitely
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Still unlikely
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Roxy she/her 04/27/2023 3:45 PM
I don't think any of this came through in the video but this one guy (I don't know his name but I remember he used his personal twitter to comment on one of Loomer's tweets which has his name on it) leaned over at one point to yell tw transphobia "I can't tell you people not to cut off your penis without you killing yourselves" I may have gotten the syntax wrong but that was some shit that was said
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Also yeah Harut was basically constantly fucking with us calling me fat and crazy and telling me to hit the gym or whatever
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/27/2023 3:47 PM
dylan baldasaure?
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Roxy she/her 04/27/2023 3:47 PM
I don't know if this is anything useful either but Loomer and Bconners were definitely conspiring like right before the Dean and the cops came over to harrass us she like whispered in his ear for a period of time and then he started filming us
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No it wasn't Dylan
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oh my god I went to go scroll back thru loomers twitter to find this guy and she literally tweets like 100+ times a day
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Certified Normal Behavior
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lumenbos (they/he) 04/27/2023 3:52 PM
@miss altava do you remember anything specific/took any videos?
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Roxy she/her 04/27/2023 3:55 PM
almost certain it was this bloke
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robin (they/it) 04/27/2023 3:55 PM
yeah yeah suit guy
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miss altava 04/27/2023 4:01 PM
I didnt take any videos. But p much what Roxy said, a lot of yelling at us/her to go to the gym, demanding us to do push ups in front of him, (tw transphohia) making jokes about how many trans people commit suicide, commenting on how we should commit suicide
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robin (they/it) 04/27/2023 4:03 PM
ok so we have complaints about harut, drew simmons, and dylan baldassear specifically
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miss altava 04/27/2023 4:04 PM
I think someone in front of me was taking video for part of the loomer talk, but most of this was in the lead up to the talk
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robin (they/it) 04/27/2023 4:05 PM
UA has all the footage they just didnt release it all
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/27/2023 4:05 PM
best to consider that inaccessible, not getting that with anything short of a subpoena (edited)
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miss altava 04/27/2023 4:06 PM
We were definitely called homophobic slurs in the hallway while waiting by harut and some other conservative men in suits, and also maybe while in the room as well
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Hayden (he/they) 04/27/2023 4:06 PM
Have we scoured the socials of people involved? They might have posted some
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 04/27/2023 4:06 PM
we should probably throw together a series of docs
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lets see if we can piece together everyone who was in that room
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we have faces
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robin (they/it) 04/27/2023 4:06 PM
i have screen recording of harut's snapchat from that night
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It is also worth mentioning that you can still submit a report without evidence. It may not turn into serious consequences but I imagine it would scare them
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robin (they/it)
i have screen recording of harut's snapchat from that night
robin (they/it) 04/27/2023 4:07 PM
his public snap chats at least
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Irabella (Leilah)(she/fae) 04/27/2023 5:36 PM
I'm sorry I didnt go to that. That shit is absolutely unacceptable and I'd add my full weight as staff ro report them with if I had been their and heard it. Absolutely disgusting and beneath the behavior of students on every level.
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idk if anyone is already aware of this but you can find tons of info and support on how to file a title ix complaint or how to file an office of civil rights complaint through knowyourix.org
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i also used to work with know your ix so i have some connections there if ppl wanted to discuss how to go about filing and what might be most strategic, they're student-led and super supportive (many trans members!)
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seb it/they 04/27/2023 8:58 PM
that would be helpful!
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i contacted them to ask abt a meeting!
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miss altava 04/29/2023 9:30 AM
Idk if this has been posted here but I found this on Lex. It seems like this would be something that would be important to this group here since public transit is an important issue Alt text: post from Laura @lalabeths in Greenville, sc from 2 days ago on Lex Title: transit advocacy days Hey Hotties! May 2 & 16 @ 6pm, Gville council finalizes their 2 yr budget. Rn public transit is not getting any $ and we need more! Sign up to show up @ the meeting so we can build better cities! Email erin.predmore@greenvilleconnects.org to learn more. Invite friends! : ) (edited)
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I'm not sure how many ppl in this group are in Greenville but I figured I'd spread this around
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seb it/they 04/29/2023 9:32 AM
Can you add alt text
09:32
@Upstate SC
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miss altava 04/29/2023 9:32 AM
Oh yeah sorry give me 1 sec
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seb it/they 04/29/2023 9:36 AM
Yeah ofc
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There's a post pinned i think in #social-media that could easily be copied and posted to lex
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Although idk how lex works
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seb it/they
that would be helpful!
if someone would like to give me an email for me to link with their email so i can do like. an introduction that would be helpful for planning a meeting!
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harper
if someone would like to give me an email for me to link with their email so i can do like. an introduction that would be helpful for planning a meeting!
seb it/they 05/02/2023 6:13 PM
our email is southcarolinaoat@gmail.com
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i've sent an email between the both of you introducing each other so hopefully you both can set up a meeting and figure out how to go about this!
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thanks so much <3
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seb it/they 05/04/2023 6:11 PM
Thank you!
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Reminder that this is today!
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cade (he/him) 05/05/2023 3:52 PM
are there any good free places to park around the statehouse or are they all metered/towing enforced
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/05/2023 3:59 PM
the closest place are the lots near coolbeans
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cade (he/him) 05/05/2023 5:33 PM
handed out more fliers and stickers than i expected to at the state house, @Hayden (he/they) if you’re the rightful keeper of these boxes of em just lmk when works for you to give em back :3
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Just got out of work, how'd it go? Anyone still up there need help packing up?
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Hey @everyone ! (Especially @Midlands SC ) Tuesday we’ll be joining several other pro-abortion and pro-queer groups at the SC statehouse while two awful bills (an abortion ban and an education censorship bill) are debated. Numbers are needed all day (8pm-5pm) and volunteers are especially needed to help run the care tent. There are two shifts you can sign up for in the calendar to run the care tent. If you can’t come in that capacity, bodies are also needed to fill seats in committee meetings and in the gallery.
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Logan (he/him) 05/06/2023 9:26 PM
I think we should yea
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robin (they/it) 05/06/2023 9:28 PM
if you want to work on this and are not already in the signal dm me your signal number
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State trooper in riot gear at 8:40 am lol
08:40
I love it here
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seb it/they 05/09/2023 8:40 AM
he's just going for a walk (joke)
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Dingo (they/them) 05/09/2023 8:41 AM
That's so cute he got dressed for the occasion :))
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He said good morning to us
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Dingo (they/them) 05/09/2023 8:42 AM
Most subtle bitch made cop
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Hayden (he/they) 05/09/2023 8:43 AM
Late for the convention in his cosplay
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Dingo (they/them) 05/09/2023 8:43 AM
BAHAHSHA
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State trooper in riot gear at 8:40 am lol
seb it/they 05/09/2023 8:49 AM
this is my reminder that you should take photos before the table gets busy cyp
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unless it's already busy lol
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We’re waiting for more snacks to magically show up
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seb it/they 05/09/2023 8:50 AM
do you need me to get snacks?
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(The person tasked with gathering brought one (1) 12-pack of applesauce)
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seb it/they
do you need me to get snacks?
No pickles is doing that
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seb it/they 05/09/2023 8:50 AM
okay wowww
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Yeah this is not pickles’ fault
09:02
Circumstances outside control
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seb it/they 05/09/2023 9:07 AM
oh yeah not blaming pickles
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robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 11:36 AM
updates from the statehouse?
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Chillin
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/09/2023 11:37 AM
Vibing in fact
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Theres not many people here
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i may stop by sometime today
11:39
lmk if yall need anything
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/09/2023 11:45 AM
Sitting here watching cops watch prisoners tend the grass
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ColorfulKnoll 05/09/2023 11:57 AM
Ah yes, legalized slavery
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Going to be a few late
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My bike just got done at the shop
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char
lmk if yall need anything
Wouldn't say no to a bag of ice
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@seb it/they what do we need from costco for mothers day
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The ingredients Athena linked and maybe some allergy friendly snacks
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i dont think they have bulk sunflower butter but i can check
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Dingo (they/them) 05/09/2023 1:37 PM
Fortunately my dentist appointment is downtown so I'll be able to swing around this time :))
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I'll be a bit tardy to the party but presence is what matters :3
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Do you need more people to help at the state house?
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If you’d like!
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Logan (he/him) 05/09/2023 1:59 PM
How long are yall gonna be out there?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/09/2023 2:00 PM
Till about 5pm
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Its pretty slow going, we arent actually doing anything
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Found Nazi propaganda
SPOILER
patriot front sticker
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Found trans propaganda 🙂
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Olivia
Wouldn't say no to a bag of ice
do yall need ice
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still
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i can get some but it might be a min- im on the phone w insurance
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Nope not at this point
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okie cool
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seb it/they 05/09/2023 2:36 PM
We just packed up
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People are going inside so the care tent is no longer needed
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/09/2023 2:43 PM
im hopnme
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mystic_darkwing 05/09/2023 2:57 PM
im heading today after school, what time does the protest end?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/09/2023 3:00 PM
formally, 5pm
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i think most of us are gone
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there wasnt much going on
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Jonah Glover 05/09/2023 3:05 PM
The South Carolina House Judiciary Committee on Tuesday approved changes to the Senate-backed six-week abortion ban bill, likely setting up another fight with the upper chamber. https://t.co/LzeJ1hMGiv
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Dingo (they/them) 05/09/2023 3:10 PM
Dammit
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I hadn't realized they were gonna use anesthetic today :')) is there anything going on at all?
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mystic_darkwing 05/09/2023 3:15 PM
is the tent still up?
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Dingo (they/them) 05/09/2023 3:22 PM
,,,, change in plans. I've got too much to sort through. I gotta come up with $200 in two weeks for the next filling ;×;
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mystic_darkwing 05/09/2023 4:36 PM
super late but im here now
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Found trans propaganda 🙂
George (He/They) 05/09/2023 5:11 PM
SPOILER
Image attachment
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/09/2023 5:30 PM
i tired
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pickles- they/them (mel) 05/09/2023 5:31 PM
They fucking had 2 abortion hearings already and now are on the 3rd. Are planning to keep us here all night until they get their way
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I hate it here
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/09/2023 5:32 PM
i wish there was more we could do
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pickles- they/them (mel) 05/09/2023 5:32 PM
There’s nothing we can do
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Build something better I guess
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cade (he/him) 05/09/2023 5:32 PM
let us know if there’s anything y’all need or anyone from the outside can to do to help
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pickles- they/them (mel) 05/09/2023 5:33 PM
I’m interested in changing tactics
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/09/2023 5:33 PM
today was just
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we didnt have numbers
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pickles- they/them (mel) 05/09/2023 5:33 PM
No
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But y’all, thank you for coming
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pickles- they/them (mel)
I’m interested in changing tactics
ColorfulKnoll 05/09/2023 5:33 PM
Pitch forks and torches?
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pickles- they/them (mel) 05/09/2023 5:35 PM
You helped care for those of us who did come. We offered banned books, we had an abortion doula teach in, we had an anti-bias training, and we cared for our people. Fuck ‘em
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pickles- they/them (mel)
I’m interested in changing tactics
robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 5:41 PM
if you want to be added to the signal group to discuss this i can add you
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seb it/they 05/09/2023 5:43 PM
Can you add me
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Unless I'm already it
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robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 5:43 PM
i meant the oat signal
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seb it/they 05/09/2023 5:44 PM
Oh so true
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mystic_darkwing 05/09/2023 6:22 PM
literally nothing is happening at the hearing if anyone is curious
18:22
theyve tabled every amendment so far
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robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 6:32 PM
yeah when i went to the abortion debates and filibuster it was really annoying because all the arguments were either fake or annoying
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a lot the people against the ban wanted a six week ban and they dont understand how that is 0 weeks vs 0 weeks.
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and all the people for the ban their arguments were irrelevant and no one called them on it
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it was all very frustrating
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electoral politics my beloved
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mystic_darkwing 05/09/2023 6:38 PM
is discussion about this fine here or would it be more fitting is leg and rep
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/09/2023 6:38 PM
no one really cares
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mystic_darkwing 05/09/2023 6:39 PM
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robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 6:44 PM
mystic what is your pfp ? a cat with a weird shaped head ?
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mystic_darkwing 05/09/2023 6:45 PM
cat with its head stuck in a vase
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robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 6:45 PM
oh
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...I thought it was a squid....
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mystic_darkwing 05/09/2023 6:47 PM
i dont even remember why its funny its from some inside joke like five years ago and its been my pfp since on everything
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robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 6:48 PM
i assumed it was a mystic darkwing at first until i made it big
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mystic since you are a new person who is pretty active do you mind filling this out. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1n6t3GSiyU9KJ_JqBKJmtYZ-_QlWrbKhEVX6UIxp_uf0/edit?usp=drivesdk
Skills Skills,Helpers Available,Want to learn? Writing,https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wsNOvMAfEK4zjIwvgdJUmY1FFiqsm3hg/view?usp=sharing < Link to Technical Writing textbook zip file with many resou...
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mystic_darkwing 05/09/2023 6:54 PM
yeah sure i will when i get a chance
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robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 6:55 PM
yeah when ever is fine
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robin (they/it)
mystic since you are a new person who is pretty active do you mind filling this out. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1n6t3GSiyU9KJ_JqBKJmtYZ-_QlWrbKhEVX6UIxp_uf0/edit?usp=drivesdk
mystic_darkwing 05/09/2023 9:54 PM
this link really sucks on mobile is there a better one for mobile i can use
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robin (they/it) 05/09/2023 9:56 PM
thats what ive got im sorry
21:56
i can try to work something out in the morning
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mystic_darkwing 05/09/2023 9:57 PM
it fine ill figure it out
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robin (they/it)
mystic since you are a new person who is pretty active do you mind filling this out. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1n6t3GSiyU9KJ_JqBKJmtYZ-_QlWrbKhEVX6UIxp_uf0/edit?usp=drivesdk
mystic_darkwing 05/09/2023 10:47 PM
also i requested edit access, can i list myself under any category or are there specific requirements for any
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mystic_darkwing
also i requested edit access, can i list myself under any category or are there specific requirements for any
robin (they/it) 05/10/2023 6:58 AM
dm a mod your email to get added to the drive. you can add yourself under a category of a skill you already have and there is another column to the right of ones you want to learn
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mystic_darkwing 05/10/2023 7:03 AM
thanks
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so for the cookies, really the only ingredients they have at costco are sugar, and applesauce- should i still go or should we just go to a regular grocery store?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/11/2023 11:32 AM
costco doesnt carry sunflower butter?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
costco doesnt carry sunflower butter?
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/11/2023 11:33 AM
apparhuh, apparently they just dont
11:33
yeah we can go to a normal grocery, im thinking walmart
11:33
@char do you want to shopping adventure together
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
costco doesnt carry sunflower butter?
nope
11:34
they have my favorite kind tho, mixed nut butter!! for all your multiple allergy needs
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
@char do you want to shopping adventure together
sure
11:35
check if they have the enjoy life brand of chocolate chips- those are top 9 free
11:35
or the nestle allergen free brand
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char
check if they have the enjoy life brand of chocolate chips- those are top 9 free
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/11/2023 11:39 AM
they do
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btw im working rn so dm me when u wanna go either today or tomorrow
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/12/2023 9:05 AM
can someone help me out with something
09:05
we need a plan for getting the tables and tent to the statehouse tomorrow
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whats up
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seb it/they 05/12/2023 9:06 AM
i have car that can fit tables and tent
09:06
where are they
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my car is big and can fit stuff too
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/12/2023 9:06 AM
tent is at the box i believe
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tent is at the box yeah
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/12/2023 9:06 AM
okay cool. im going to walk to the statehouse early. yall can swing by, drop stuff off with me, and then go park, sound good? (edited)
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seb it/they 05/12/2023 9:07 AM
okay where are teh tables?
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seb it/they
i have car that can fit tables and tent
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/12/2023 9:07 AM
@jacklyn and @Hayden (he/they) have the tables i believe? we should round those up
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im coming to the mothers day thing tmrw so i'll bring the tables
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/12/2023 9:09 AM
okay cool
09:09
what time should we arrive for setup do you think, 10:30?
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okay cool, one final thing, sorry yall 😭
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Ten, maybe, for a bit more lead in to an 11 start?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/12/2023 9:11 AM
safe space dinners wants to know where to park and what time they should arrive, what do i tell them?
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seb it/they 05/12/2023 9:11 AM
ye
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
safe space dinners wants to know where to park and what time they should arrive, what do i tell them?
They're coming to table?
09:14
No idea where to park, but on the day of I'm to contact facilities who can presumably let cars in to drop things off
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
@jacklyn and @Hayden (he/they) have the tables i believe? we should round those up
Hayden (he/they) 05/12/2023 9:15 AM
Mine is in my living room, Jacklyn can let someone in
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Bernie
They're coming to table?
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/12/2023 9:18 AM
yes
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where do i tell them to drop off the table, and where do i tell them to park
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I'll see if it's possible day-of, but I should be able to get facilities to unhook the chains and let cars in to drop stuff off on the north lawn area. Backup would probably be the court of appeals driveway
09:22
And again, they'll probably just have to find parking nearby
09:23
Can't rn, but I'll read our contract to see rules on vehicles parking during our time
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cade (he/him) 05/12/2023 9:59 AM
do y’all need the fliers/stickers/buttons for tomorrow?
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ideally yeah
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cade (he/him) 05/12/2023 10:02 AM
i’m not gonna be able to come tomorrow; but i can drop em off to anyone whenever today
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i'll be at my place but it might make more sense to drop them off at the box as char will already be bringing the tent
10:03
@char are you okay with this
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seb it/they
@char are you okay with this
Yep, they are
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cade (he/him) 05/12/2023 10:21 AM
cool, i just need the addy to this box i’ve heard so much about
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
where do i tell them to drop off the table, and where do i tell them to park
Okay so vehicle access is only if we’re on the south lawn, there’s no vehicles allowed on the north grounds
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y'all should just let me carry stuff
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i've got climbing arms
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/12/2023 12:25 PM
i dont really care how stuff gets there
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im just gonna show up at 10:30 to grab stuff people drop off
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can we print a few khepri posters for the event tomorrow possiby?
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seb it/they 05/12/2023 1:03 PM
yeah
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send the poster design to felix
13:03
will do
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/12/2023 2:59 PM
@Bernie is the state house providing amplification or should i bring some
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seb it/they 05/12/2023 3:01 PM
they are not, we were going to use the megaphoen
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they)
@Bernie is the state house providing amplification or should i bring some
As seb said, they don’t provide anything like that
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/12/2023 3:02 PM
Okay cool buying batteries at walmart
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should we do two different cookies? or just the one kind
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athena and i are about to go shopping
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we were thinking some kind of allergy friendly sugar cookie
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seb it/they 05/12/2023 3:08 PM
up to y'all
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i thought the orginal plan was to buy premade ones
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/12/2023 3:14 PM
we'll do that
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pickles- they/them (mel) 05/12/2023 8:36 PM
Hey! Hope y’all are as well as can be. I wanted to come support the Mother’s Day event, but my mom is pretty sick and I need to care for her this weekend. It’s gonna be a great event! Please tap me in if I can support remotely!
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robin (they/it) 05/12/2023 8:38 PM
i hope your mom feels better and yall have a good mothers day together !!
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original cookies failed to properly be cookies- i got replacement cookies that were $23 total - if you wanna help pay for them it would be appreciated- dm for my venmo
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Someone got batteries for the megaphone?
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/13/2023 9:09 AM
i did
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they are with the groceries in @char's car
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i have cookies, lemonade powder, cups, decor, stickers, pins, and the tent
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im also gonna bring my two tailgate chairs
09:21
can someone bring trans flags / the flag bag
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And you’re still intending on coming at around 10?
09:23
About to call BPS
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 05/13/2023 9:27 AM
I'm leaving my house now (sorry had a problem with my bank of course). Ill be there around 11. Is there a place at the Statehouse where I can just park real quick to drop off the tent, or nah?
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And you’re still intending on coming at around 10?
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/13/2023 9:28 AM
its 10:30
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A-A-Ron (they/them)
I'm leaving my house now (sorry had a problem with my bank of course). Ill be there around 11. Is there a place at the Statehouse where I can just park real quick to drop off the tent, or nah?
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/13/2023 9:28 AM
i will be available to drop off all day, then you can park wheever
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A-A-Ron (they/them)
I'm leaving my house now (sorry had a problem with my bank of course). Ill be there around 11. Is there a place at the Statehouse where I can just park real quick to drop off the tent, or nah?
That’s what I’m trying to talk with them about, they don’t allow vehicle access to the north grounds but there’s a lot of parking directly adjacent to the state house due to it being a weekend,
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char
can someone bring trans flags / the flag bag
seb it/they 05/13/2023 9:34 AM
I've got this
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A-A-Ron (they/them)
I'm leaving my house now (sorry had a problem with my bank of course). Ill be there around 11. Is there a place at the Statehouse where I can just park real quick to drop off the tent, or nah?
Okay so I called bps again and as long as you don’t park, they can have someone drop the chain
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A-A-Ron (they/them) 05/13/2023 10:00 AM
Great, thank you
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Also electricity is not here, I called last week to set it up with the facility management people and they said they’d have access set up, but I see nothing and their line goes to voicemail
10:01
I don’t think we need it with the battery amplification, I hope?
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A-A-Ron (they/them)
Great, thank you
I’ll let you know when it’s been dropped, they said they’ll send someone out around 10 - 10:30
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Bernie
I don’t think we need it with the battery amplification, I hope?
AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/13/2023 10:10 AM
We do not
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10:14
The roundabout is closed
10:14
Were gonna need that chain dropped
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I already called
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AthenaTheCommie (she/they) 05/13/2023 10:15 AM
Do you know what chain it is
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One of these two
10:17
They said someone would be out here around 10 - 10:30, if no one has dropped it by then I’ll make another call
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about to pull up
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A-A-Ron (they/them)
Great, thank you
The chain has been dropped
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Bernie
One of these two
Camryn Aisling 05/13/2023 11:21 AM
I'm a bit confused about why they secured such a large chain with an ordinary padlock
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Security theatre, they are experienced dramatists
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Max (they/it) 05/13/2023 1:14 PM
@char the chain is down
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Thank you to all the lovelies who came out to our Mother’s Day event, it was nice to see you all and eat cookies
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BenjaminIsaac 05/13/2023 2:03 PM
I wanted to take my mom but she wanted to do gardening :(
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14:03
hope it was fun
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are we gonna table at yallmart this weekend
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robin (they/it) 05/15/2023 3:51 PM
they have not responded
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