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@Sp4rks Stick your shitty accusations in here
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and KEEP IT HERE TOO
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Once you start an argument, move HERE
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BUT I WANT TO LITTER JENERALLLLLL
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If you start shit in general
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and keep it there
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im kicking you
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ok daddy
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Both are naked and covered in oil, who's winning the twerk-off?
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DeepSouth
Both are naked and covered in oil, who's winning the twerk-off?
you have been permanently banned from posting in r/askmiddleeast
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The upper petty bourgeoisie and middle bourgeoisie, oppressed and injured by the landlords and big bourgeoisie and their state power, may take part in the new-democratic revolution or stay neutral, though they are themselves bourgeois. They have no ties, or comparatively few, with imperialism and are the genuine national bourgeoisie. Wherever the state power of New Democracy extends, it must firmly and unhesitatingly protect them. It is absolutely impermissible to repeat such wrong ultra-Left polices towards the upper petty bourgeois and middle bourgeois sectors in the economy as our Party adopted during 1931-34 (unduly advanced labour conditions, excessive income tax rates, encroachment on the interests of industrialists and merchants during the land reform, and the adoption as a goal of the so-called "workers' welfare", which was a short-sighted and one-sided concept, instead of the goal of developing production, promoting economic prosperity, giving consideration to both public and private interests and benefiting both labor and capital). To repeat such mistakes would certainly damage the interests both of the working masses and of the new-democratic state. To sum up, the economic structure of New China will consist of: (1) the state-owned economy, which is the leading sector; (2) the agricultural economy, developing step by step from individual to collective; and (3) the economy of small independent craftsmen and traders and the economy of small and middle private capital. These constitute the whole of the new-democratic national economy. The principles guiding the new-democratic national economy must closely conform to the general objective of developing production, promoting economic prosperity, giving consideration to both public and private interests and benefiting both labor and capital. Any principle, policy or measure that deviates from this general objective is wrong.
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@Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
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u just called me a nazi because ur shitlib mind cant fathom actually existing socialism
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read
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its like
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very short too
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lol
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:22 PM
yeah looks like class collaborationism
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and whys that bad
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:23 PM
"actually existing socialism"
benefits labour and capital
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Sp4rks
and whys that bad
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:23 PM
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you
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
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not
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the same
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thing
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lawl
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again just calling me a fascist for the sake of it
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ouch
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:23 PM
no im not
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whos the one throwing insults and shitposting now
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:24 PM
class collaborationism is one of fascisms fundamental aspects
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nah this is rage bait
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stop
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:24 PM
its true
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"we must isolate ourselves and cause damage to our movements and even compromise them in most cases because doing otherwise is literally fascism!!!" - anton & lily
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
class collaborationism is one of fascisms fundamental aspects
collectivism is also a fundamental fascist aspect
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:27 PM
sorry i actually support class struggle and desire a genuine proletarian dictatorship and not "new democracy" which enshrines the existence of sections of the bourgeoisie as a somehow progressive force
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you are a fascist...
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:27 PM
communism is neither collectivist nor individualist
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
sorry i actually support class struggle and desire a genuine proletarian dictatorship and not "new democracy" which enshrines the existence of sections of the bourgeoisie as a somehow progressive force
didnt read what i posted
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sad
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:27 PM
i did
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i luhv new dumocracy
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wdym
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:28 PM
we must compromise and coexist with the national bourgeoisie!!
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full modern socialism in all regards by 2049
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common prosperity
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The principles guiding the new-democratic national economy must closely conform to the general objective of developing production, promoting economic prosperity, giving consideration to both public and private interests and benefiting both labor and capital. Any principle, policy or measure that deviates from this general objective is wrong.
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developing production
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
sorry i actually support class struggle and desire a genuine proletarian dictatorship and not "new democracy" which enshrines the existence of sections of the bourgeoisie as a somehow progressive force
what workers
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chinese peasants?
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oke
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:29 PM
if you actually think china can somehow ever be socialist in isolation you have zero understanding of how capitalism works or socialism
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chinese peasants?
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:29 PM
do you think a proletariat doesn't exist in china, especially today
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in the fucking
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50s
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it didnt
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:30 PM
it did but it was small
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
if you actually think china can somehow ever be socialist in isolation you have zero understanding of how capitalism works or socialism
did you know that not everything lenin said 90 years ago was true???????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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i dont think so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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going pretty well so far if you ask me
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Sp4rks
did you know that not everything lenin said 90 years ago was true???????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:30 PM
i never said it was
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
if you actually think china can somehow ever be socialist in isolation you have zero understanding of how capitalism works or socialism
xd
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 4:30 PM
Omg she is crumbling guys
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goofy trotskyist
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you will never be a real communist
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im gonna get some incredible propaganda for MEA out of this
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:31 PM
me when china achieves socialism but still participates in external markets leading to the restoration of commodity production internally and recreation of capitalist social relations
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
me when china achieves socialism but still participates in external markets leading to the restoration of commodity production internally and recreation of capitalist social relations
whats wrong with commodity production
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 4:31 PM
Instead of arguing she is falling back lmaoo
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Sp4rks
whats wrong with commodity production
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 4:31 PM
Bruh
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Sp4rks
whats wrong with commodity production
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:31 PM
YOU CANT HAVE COMMODITY PRODUCTION AND SOCIALISM
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READ MARX
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wait what socialism
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dotp or lower stage communism
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:32 PM
socialism
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u can dotp and have commodity production yes
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:32 PM
dotp is not socialism
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well uh
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id like to inform you
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this isnt the fucking 20s anymore
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the popular meaning of the word socialism has shifted
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you either adapt or you die (you die)
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 4:32 PM
Bruh she be cracking
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:32 PM
dotp is the organisation of the class during the revolutionary period which carries out the transformation to socialism
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wow fr
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thats incredible
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Sp4rks
you either adapt or you die (you die)
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:33 PM
your adaptations are lassalleo-kautskyite-stalinite revisionism
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not mine
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lol
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:33 PM
i dont mean you individually
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its a general you to refer to your clique of the left wing of capital
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im sorry lily but its not the fucking 20s anymore
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:33 PM
wow
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 4:33 PM
She cant respond properly lmao
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
its a general you to refer to your clique of the left wing of capital
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:34 PM
i would have never thought this
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youre the fgucking
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far right wing of capital
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:34 PM
so true
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i didnt believe in horseshoe until i met you fucking tools
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 4:34 PM
Guys china is socialism i swear
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
Guys china is socialism i swear
in 2049 yessir
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first stage of socialism atm
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:35 PM
the people who talk about the necessity of the abolition of the value-form are the far right
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in 2049 yessir
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 4:35 PM
Cope at the heart
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:35 PM
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
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tone deaf
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hypocrisy even
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straight up mental retardation, if even
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or just blatant ignorance
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to everything around you
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 4:35 PM
@Sp4rks come one throw some buzzwords you loved to before!!
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:35 PM
the only thing deafening is how loud your misunderstanding of marxism is
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
sorry i actually support class struggle and desire a genuine proletarian dictatorship and not "new democracy" which enshrines the existence of sections of the bourgeoisie as a somehow progressive force
adventurism
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 4:36 PM
Throw some theory or out of context quote, anything
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:36 PM
sorry i dont support compromising with capitalists and nationalists in the era of decadence
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you probably think electoralism is a valid strategy too
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then im sorry but its no wonder your lsd dream induced "understanding of marx" hasnt manifested anywhere
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Sp4rks
adventurism
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:37 PM
what adventurism
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me when workers councils are adventurism now
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Sp4rks
then im sorry but its no wonder your lsd dream induced "understanding of marx" hasnt manifested anywhere
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 4:38 PM
Cmon throw a quote or some theory, or are you actually scared?
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what workers councils
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like its a great idea
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but agian
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not uh happening
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:38 PM
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ok
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yeah wait is hould check if i have running water
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silly silly dogmatists
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you will never be a real communist!
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 4:39 PM
Cmon this is pathetic, you are usually so lively!! @Sp4rks
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Sp4rks
not uh happening
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:39 PM
not happening? councils arose spontaneously at all moments of heightened revolutionary and near revolutionary struggle in the last century
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
not happening? councils arose spontaneously at all moments of heightened revolutionary and near revolutionary struggle in the last century
last century
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wow
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i cant believe it
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you just fucked your own argument
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im so proud of you
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now
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let me do my propaganda
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:40 PM
if dogmatism is the preservation of revolutionary principles and not giving into capitalist illusions then im the biggest dogmatist
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Sp4rks
you just fucked your own argument
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:40 PM
no i didnt
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what i'm saying is
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 4:41 PM
She is pulling strawman arguments now
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Trying to get the “GOTCHA”
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@Sp4rks where did you go tho
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/07/2023 4:41 PM
I mean ngl her entire argument seems to be "it never existed irl!!!" rn
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:41 PM
historically speaking the workers councils were the natural form of workers self-organisation, such self-organisation may take new forms but its still different from new democracy in the sense that it is wholly proletarian
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
I mean ngl her entire argument seems to be "it never existed irl!!!" rn
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 4:41 PM
She has never had an argument besides that
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
I mean ngl her entire argument seems to be "it never existed irl!!!" rn
no my argument is that these people are divorced from reality
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simple as
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Sp4rks
no my argument is that these people are divorced from reality
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/07/2023 4:42 PM
Why so?
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:42 PM
you read
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/07/2023 4:42 PM
Can you summarise
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Sp4rks
read
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 4:42 PM
Read what oh please tell us
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:42 PM
i'll help
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Sp4rks
The upper petty bourgeoisie and middle bourgeoisie, oppressed and injured by the landlords and big bourgeoisie and their state power, may take part in the new-democratic revolution or stay neutral, though they are themselves bourgeois. They have no ties, or comparatively few, with imperialism and are the genuine national bourgeoisie. Wherever the state power of New Democracy extends, it must firmly and unhesitatingly protect them. It is absolutely impermissible to repeat such wrong ultra-Left polices towards the upper petty bourgeois and middle bourgeois sectors in the economy as our Party adopted during 1931-34 (unduly advanced labour conditions, excessive income tax rates, encroachment on the interests of industrialists and merchants during the land reform, and the adoption as a goal of the so-called "workers' welfare", which was a short-sighted and one-sided concept, instead of the goal of developing production, promoting economic prosperity, giving consideration to both public and private interests and benefiting both labor and capital). To repeat such mistakes would certainly damage the interests both of the working masses and of the new-democratic state. To sum up, the economic structure of New China will consist of: (1) the state-owned economy, which is the leading sector; (2) the agricultural economy, developing step by step from individual to collective; and (3) the economy of small independent craftsmen and traders and the economy of small and middle private capital. These constitute the whole of the new-democratic national economy. The principles guiding the new-democratic national economy must closely conform to the general objective of developing production, promoting economic prosperity, giving consideration to both public and private interests and benefiting both labor and capital. Any principle, policy or measure that deviates from this general objective is wrong.
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this is bad because apparently praxis is eviiiil
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Sp4rks
The upper petty bourgeoisie and middle bourgeoisie, oppressed and injured by the landlords and big bourgeoisie and their state power, may take part in the new-democratic revolution or stay neutral, though they are themselves bourgeois. They have no ties, or comparatively few, with imperialism and are the genuine national bourgeoisie. Wherever the state power of New Democracy extends, it must firmly and unhesitatingly protect them. It is absolutely impermissible to repeat such wrong ultra-Left polices towards the upper petty bourgeois and middle bourgeois sectors in the economy as our Party adopted during 1931-34 (unduly advanced labour conditions, excessive income tax rates, encroachment on the interests of industrialists and merchants during the land reform, and the adoption as a goal of the so-called "workers' welfare", which was a short-sighted and one-sided concept, instead of the goal of developing production, promoting economic prosperity, giving consideration to both public and private interests and benefiting both labor and capital). To repeat such mistakes would certainly damage the interests both of the working masses and of the new-democratic state. To sum up, the economic structure of New China will consist of: (1) the state-owned economy, which is the leading sector; (2) the agricultural economy, developing step by step from individual to collective; and (3) the economy of small independent craftsmen and traders and the economy of small and middle private capital. These constitute the whole of the new-democratic national economy. The principles guiding the new-democratic national economy must closely conform to the general objective of developing production, promoting economic prosperity, giving consideration to both public and private interests and benefiting both labor and capital. Any principle, policy or measure that deviates from this general objective is wrong.
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/07/2023 4:43 PM
All of this is speculation
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"may take part" literallymay
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Finally we have a channel for everyone to let their anger out :D
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FUCK OFF IM MAKING MEA PROPAGANDA
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ComradeDer
Finally we have a channel for everyone to let their anger out :D
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 4:43 PM
Enjoying the show of sparks getting dunked on?
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Sp4rks
this is bad because apparently praxis is eviiiil
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:43 PM
what
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
what
thats like
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the main principle of left communism
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:44 PM
this bitch thinks the armchair meme is real!
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BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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you are terminally online
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
Enjoying the show of sparks getting dunked on?
Yes!
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well you are not doing a good job at not conforming to stereotypes
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:45 PM
maybe actually at least engage with the history of the communist left or contact one of our organisations!
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 4:45 PM
@Sp4rks cmon now defend your self
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Dont be afraid
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
@Sp4rks cmon now defend your self
no im making mea propaganda fek off
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:45 PM
because if you think we just sit and do nothing and have throughout history then you know nothing at all
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Sp4rks
no im making mea propaganda fek off
Lol!
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Sp4rks
no im making mea propaganda fek off
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 4:46 PM
Lets be honest you cant fight it, hence why you are running away.
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/07/2023 4:47 PM
I'm waiting for her to pull up the left con bingo card she always uses
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 4:47 PM
I think she forgot
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She literally fucked off cause she has no argument
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what argument can u even make against dogmatism lawl
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i am goign to murk whoevcer deleted mny video
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 4:48 PM
@Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) you should make a bingo sheet
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i am goign to murk whoevcer deleted mny video
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/07/2023 4:48 PM
me 👋
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no larp
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
me 👋
fasicst!!!
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/07/2023 4:48 PM
especially not in debates channel
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yorue a fasicts
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fir deleting my videoi!!!
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Sp4rks
what argument can u even make against dogmatism lawl
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 4:48 PM
Argue your point cmon
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:48 PM
you say dogmatism i call it having a spine
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Kord
fasicst!!!
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/07/2023 4:48 PM
yes i lov adolpf hilter and musoleine
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real........
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 4:48 PM
Dont be a wus @Sp4rks
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Deleted User 04/07/2023 4:49 PM
wtf
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whats going on
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 4:49 PM
You always shit on other people when you make your arguments and talking all this big shit cmon, dont wuss out @Sp4rks
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/07/2023 4:49 PM
marxist infighting
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:49 PM
anyway nobody care about propaganda for your Mussolini-Evola Association
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
marxist infighting
lol???
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icwp?
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marxism?
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
marxist infighting
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:50 PM
they are not marxists
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they have more in common with trotsky
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
they are not marxists
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/07/2023 4:50 PM
arguably
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whats going on
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 4:50 PM
Someone is getting their just deserts for not having a spine.
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Sp4rks
they have more in common with trotsky
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:50 PM
^ this fool has never read our manifesto
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Deleted User 04/07/2023 4:50 PM
oh my god
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@Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
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Deleted User 04/07/2023 4:51 PM
whats even the point of this argument
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/07/2023 4:51 PM
I don't know why it got started but I'm enjoying it
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Deleted User 04/07/2023 4:51 PM
arent leftists supposed to like work together??????????
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ComradeDer
@Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:51 PM
do they think trotsky invented internationalism
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
I don't know why it got started but I'm enjoying it
dont you know leftcommunism hates praxis!!!!!
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arent leftists supposed to like work together??????????
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/07/2023 4:51 PM
emphasis on supposed
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Deleted User
arent leftists supposed to like work together??????????
do you think they are leftists?
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Sp4rks
do you think they are leftists?
Deleted User 04/07/2023 4:52 PM
i dunno
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Deleted User
arent leftists supposed to like work together??????????
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:52 PM
we are not leftists we are communisfs
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Sp4rks
dont you know leftcommunism hates praxis!!!!!
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/07/2023 4:52 PM
Speculation about what China will be in 30 years ain't praxis
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i dont watch discord drama
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i dunno
they arent theyre just larps
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
Speculation about what China will be in 30 years ain't praxis
what speculation jackass
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what i pasted was china in 1949
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lol
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/07/2023 4:52 PM
Dude your mega essay
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all speculation
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that was literally
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mao
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in 1949
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/07/2023 4:52 PM
Then mao speculated
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:52 PM
leftism has constantly betrayed the communist movement and the working class in moments of struggle
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
leftism has constantly betrayed the communist movement and the working class in moments of struggle
phew
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glad youre not leftists then
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youre not communists either
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Deleted User 04/07/2023 4:53 PM
guys guys.... i think that tortosdky should have sex with stalin cuz uh cuhzuhh um read the book
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guys guys.... i think that tortosdky should have sex with stalin cuz uh cuhzuhh um read the book
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/07/2023 4:53 PM
damn right
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:53 PM
you probably would have supported the PCF and CGT against the workers and students in may 68
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Deleted User 04/07/2023 4:54 PM
and and
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and
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uh
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uh
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there should be a new gender
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the gender is called
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marxist leninist
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the pronouns are
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marxist/leninist
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stop littering #debates with coal
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Deleted User 04/07/2023 4:55 PM
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:55 PM
stop littering the world with your existence
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Deleted User 04/07/2023 4:55 PM
but guys.....
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this is SERIOUS debate
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!!! 1 1
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 4:57 PM
@Sp4rks cant believe you shut up for once cause you got bitch slapped
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:57 PM
@Sp4rks if you were in italy before the second world war you would have joined the fascist party
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
@Sp4rks if you were in italy before the second world war you would have joined the fascist party
yeah the same way bordiga supported the axis
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thats true.
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yeah the same way bordiga supported the axis
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:57 PM
he didn't
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oh no here we go
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:57 PM
common stalinist lie
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essay on why bordiga wasnt a retard
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:58 PM
bordiga was wrong on a lot
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but he didn't support the axis
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too lazy to grab a source
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so
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idfk
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ill give u the benefit of the doubt despite the fact that i have a source
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too lazy to grab a source
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 4:59 PM
Cmon get your sources
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 4:59 PM
he made statements to people he knew were police informants on one hand and also referred to hitler as sowing the seeds for his own and capital's destruction
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no im playing the lego game :D
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 4:59 PM
You have never been this shy
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 5:03 PM
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Kid named magacommunism
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
Click to see attachment 🖼️
"dengists" 🤓
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deng was a leninist
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fucking western chauvinist
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 5:06 PM
god even maoists want to beat your ass
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what maoists
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your
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western chauvinist friends?
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 5:06 PM
no
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there are no other maoists jackass
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just depressed western jannies
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consooming western media on a daily basis
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"i get my news from reuters since its unbiased!"
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 5:06 PM
how do you feel about the CPC suppressing marxist and maoists organisations
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read chuang
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
how do you feel about the CPC suppressing marxist and maoists organisations
maoism isnt a thing retard
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maoism became socialism with chinese characteristics
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 5:07 PM
"maoism isnt a thing1!1!1!"
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it isnt
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unless you take in western left maoists
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which you probably do
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but theyre a fringe yet vocal minority
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maoism isnt a thing
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:D
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but theyre a fringe yet vocal minority
thats all you are
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you are seen as a joke by the wider world
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
"maoism isnt a thing1!1!1!"
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 5:07 PM
She also believes stalinism never existed
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Sp4rks
you are seen as a joke by the wider world
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 5:08 PM
Cry harder
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Its funny seeing you pissed for being called out @Sp4rks
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 5:08 PM
better a joke than a sell-out
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
better a joke than a sell-out
better having success than being lost to history
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 5:09 PM
what success
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 5:09 PM
^
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 5:09 PM
you just have capitalism with sometimes better social programs and other times with extremely draconian conditions
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 5:09 PM
She is about to pull the “THREATENED WORLD LIBERALISM TWICE!!!!!!”
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
you just have capitalism with sometimes better social programs and other times with extremely draconian conditions
im sorry have you heard of dialectical materialism
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(you havent)
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(:D)
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now
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fuck off
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 5:10 PM
Oh your about to get even more shit on lmao
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stop just throwing insults
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
Oh your about to get even more shit on lmao
youre*
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Sp4rks
stop just throwing insults
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 5:11 PM
All you are doing
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lemme just mute this channel
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so you can have your autistic spergs
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but remember!
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 5:11 PM
Your pissed
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they dont mean shit in the grand scheme of things!
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
Your pissed
you're*
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but remember!
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 5:11 PM
Your pissed
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 5:11 PM
do you think the "unity of opposites" or thesis-antithesis-synthesis has anything to do with marx's dialectic
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learn to write sped
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learn to write sped
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 5:11 PM
Learn to cope
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least ableist dictator dick rider
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dicktator
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who invited the lib
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:(
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who invited the lib and the 2 fascists
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has stalin in banner
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calls ppl fascist
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who invited the lib and the 2 fascists
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 5:12 PM
so true we're the fascists yet you're the one advocating class collaborationism
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genius
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@Sp4rks would you work with a fascist?
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y
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oh no
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anton is typing
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god help us
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Ecxcentric
@Sp4rks would you work with a fascist?
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 5:52 PM
She would ngl i mean she did house that one nazi in mea remember @ComradeDer ?
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shits about to go down
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
She would ngl i mean she did house that one nazi in mea remember @ComradeDer ?
Several
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 5:52 PM
Several?!?!
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@Ecxcentric I rest my case.
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All MEA members are fucking nazis
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With exception of Viktor and Fidel
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
She would ngl i mean she did house that one nazi in mea remember @ComradeDer ?
Yes
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Thats why they're allowed here
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
Several?!?!
Yes
17:53
Remember earlier in general
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 5:54 PM
Oh I remember Im just pushing the point.
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no
Why not don’t you want to like achieve your goals or something
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?
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I mean you’d work with capitalist
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And they’re just as bad as fascists at least in my opinion
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 5:55 PM
sparks: Workers of the world unite?? fuck that dogmatism! workers unite with your national bourgeoisie! this is true real communism in action
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
sparks: Workers of the world unite?? fuck that dogmatism! workers unite with your national bourgeoisie! this is true real communism in action
^
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This is just like when RW confuse capitalism with communism
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
sparks: Workers of the world unite?? fuck that dogmatism! workers unite with your national bourgeoisie! this is true real communism in action
workers, cooperate with the national bourgeoisie temporarily so you can eventually exterminate them*
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Literally this
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Ecxcentric
@Sp4rks would you work with a fascist?
honestly fascists are pretty hot
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like
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90% of them are chasers too
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 5:57 PM
…..
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Sp4rks
workers, cooperate with the national bourgeoisie temporarily so you can eventually exterminate them*
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 5:57 PM
i dont see any extermination going on, i do however see the suppression of workers movements
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Sp4rks
honestly fascists are pretty hot
Holy fuck (edited)
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Are u ok
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im really not
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They literally wanna murder u bro
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Sp4rks
90% of them are chasers too
.
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anarchists are hotter tho
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 5:57 PM
i mean of course the head of the mussolini-evola association (MEA) thinks fascists are hot
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
i mean of course the head of the mussolini-evola association (MEA) thinks fascists are hot
im just a hormonal teen who would get fucked by anything do u think thats surprising
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Sp4rks
honestly fascists are pretty hot
@ComradeDer look at this goofy ass shit
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Sp4rks
anarchists are hotter tho
.
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 5:58 PM
wishing you a happy 16th birthday hopefully by then you get over your delusions
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Sp4rks
im just a hormonal teen who would get fucked by anything do u think thats surprising
U should get therapy
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 5:59 PM
Im just saying, for all this talk of us being non communists and shit, you are holding a lot of fascists..
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Sp4rks
honestly fascists are pretty hot
Can you fucking
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Go to sleep
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and never wake up
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Fr
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Ecxcentric
U should get therapy
honestly thats a good idea
17:59
tbh
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You should touch some grass bro
ComradeDer pinned a message to this channel. 04/07/2023 6:00 PM
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:00 PM
@Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) atleast zombie pretended to have a point and actually fought fascists, the fucking prick he was
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:00 PM
yeah
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mfw maurice is more principled
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:01 PM
And didnt harbor fascists,
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
@Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) atleast zombie pretended to have a point and actually fought fascists, the fucking prick he was
do i get the title of zombiepatrol but worse
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@Sp4rks are you not embarrassed
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Ecxcentric
@Sp4rks are you not embarrassed
no lol
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:02 PM
To consider you even close to Zombiepatrol is an insult to Zombiepatrol.
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That’s sad
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Ecxcentric
That’s sad
You should go outside
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Be normal or something
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maybe
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:03 PM
16 year old stalinite-dengoid who gets their political education primarily from memes vs 20 something year old leftcom militants
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:03 PM
You have actively made no arguments and all you have done is hurl insults and cry that your members were banned even though they left willingly.
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:03 PM
the battle was over from the start
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
You have actively made no arguments and all you have done is hurl insults and cry that your members were banned even though they left willingly.
1 LEFT WILLINGLY
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SMOOTH
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SPUTNIK
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CHICKEN
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vikter got fucking
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harassed into leaving
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Maybe you shouldn’t have fascists as friends if you don’t want people to be banned
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if der wasnt so retarded in mea
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Ecxcentric
Maybe you shouldn’t have fascists as friends if you don’t want people to be banned
Or harassed
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:05 PM
You dont need a squad to back you up if you have a point to be made lmao.
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and didnt ban mea members
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i would have outnumbered u by now
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
You dont need a squad to back you up if you have a point to be made lmao.
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:05 PM
Outnumbered?
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:05 PM
you may have outnumbered us
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
You dont need a squad to back you up if you have a point to be made lmao.
u do in discord arguments
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as u have proven
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:05 PM
but numbers do not equal correctness
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:05 PM
Its not a contest of numbers dumbass.
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Sp4rks
i would have outnumbered u by now
Numbers don’t mean anything the only thing that should matter is facts
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:06 PM
by that logic the american democratic party has the correct line
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Exactly
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ma am the fucking democrats dont hold discord debates
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That means Elon musk is great actually
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u do in discord arguments
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:06 PM
You fucking bitched and insulted and refused to argue and when you did your arguments fell flat
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/07/2023 6:06 PM
This just sounds like copium rn
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Or that Hitler was right
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ma am the fucking democrats dont hold discord debates
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:07 PM
you havent lost debates bc of a lack of numbers you lose them because you have nothing of substance to say
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oo oo do i get the title of most retarded person the icwp ever encountered??
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:07 PM
no
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because there is nothing special about you
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aw man
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Sp4rks
oo oo do i get the title of most retarded person the icwp ever encountered??
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:08 PM
Cmon make an argument
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@Sp4rks you should be ashamed of yourself
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:08 PM
you just parrot the same stalinite lines that have been debunked time and time again
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:08 PM
@Sp4rks dont be a bitch redeem yourself
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I am cheering for you!!
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:09 PM
have you even ever actually read any work from the communist left
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:09 PM
Do the thing where you pull out those links from prolewiki and shit!
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
have you even ever actually read any work from the communist left
tbh no
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
have you even ever actually read any work from the communist left
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:09 PM
They supposedly read the gothe programme (edited)
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tbh no
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:10 PM
whatever happened to "no investigation no right to speak"
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all i know
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is bordiga was a nazi
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socialism by 2049
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
They supposedly read the gothe programme (edited)
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:10 PM
the critique of or the programme itself
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what else
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stalin did nothing wrong
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stalinism doesnt exist
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Sp4rks
is bordiga was a nazi
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:11 PM
not at all true
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you are all western chauvinists
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done :D
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
the critique of or the programme itself
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:11 PM
The critique
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:11 PM
ok faggot
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@ComradeDer uhm
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Sp4rks
socialism by 2049
“0 carbon emissions by 2025” moment
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Sp4rks
@ComradeDer uhm
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:11 PM
You dont get to bitch about it.
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@ComradeDer uhm
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/07/2023 6:11 PM
Don't act like you haven't been insulting people as well
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that said
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
ok faggot
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/07/2023 6:11 PM
please don't
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you've hammered her enough
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You really thought you ate tbh @Sp4rks
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Sp4rks
done :D
oh and common prosperity for all
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NOW done
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Sp4rks
stalin did nothing wrong
He’s a pedofile but ok
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Ecxcentric
He’s a pedofile but ok
source: quora
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:13 PM
"western chauvanist" sorry my perspective is informed by communists in china and has less in common with state department propaganda
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Ecxcentric
He’s a pedofile but ok
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:13 PM
true but so was bakunin
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Sp4rks
source: quora
Told for the first time, the astonishing story of the brutal dictator's affair with an under-age schoolgirl...and how he made her pregnant.
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
true but so was bakunin
That’s also bad
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@Sp4rks kinda suspicious don’t you think “Nadezhda Sergeyevna Alliluyeva[a] (Russian: Надежда Сергеевна Аллилуева; 22 September [O.S. 9 September] 1901 – 9 November 1932) was the second wife of Joseph Stalin. She was born in Baku to a friend of Stalin, a fellow revolutionary, and was raised in Saint Petersburg. Having known Stalin from a young age, she married him when she was 18”
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
you've hammered her enough
Deleted User 04/07/2023 6:14 PM
w-wagner reference??!?!?
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/07/2023 6:15 PM
nah that was a bob the builder reference
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:16 PM
https://chuangcn.org/blog/ i dont think they're right on everything but a great resource!
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Sp4rks
source: quora
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:17 PM
Cant believe sparks would sell out the working class and harbor fascists so sad!
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
https://chuangcn.org/blog/ i dont think they're right on everything but a great resource!
uhm
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:17 PM
uhmm
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uhmmmmmmmmmmm
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uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:17 PM
Uhhhhhhhhh
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friendsofsocialistchina.org
18:17
smh
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:18 PM
You use prolewiki and base Wikipedia as a source dont wanna hear it.
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prolewiki is good it classifies leftcommunism as idealistic (you are)
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:18 PM
There is a thing called “being a hypocrite”
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:18 PM
what does idealism mean
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:19 PM
LOL
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smth i hate i think
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ok im not
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that retarded
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i forgot
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u cant spot irony
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im sorry
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i need to put an /s at the end
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:19 PM
its hard to spot irony when you're generally a moron
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:20 PM
Im sorry you harbor fascists @Sp4rks
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Im sorry you have no real foundation.
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unrelated + i dont
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:20 PM
Hopefully your sickness can be cured.
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Sp4rks
unrelated + i dont
Are you actually even a leftist?
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i follow ceausescuism-dengism so yes, i am a leftist
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:22 PM
programmatists of the ICL stay winning
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Are you though
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how could u tell
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:22 PM
sparks is a leftist
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the issue is leftism sucks
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Yeah
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lily is an ultraleftist
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It’s just an umbrella term
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the issue is she is so far left she swung tk the right
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Sp4rks
the issue is she is so far left she swung tk the right
You’re so libed up
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Your basically a Soc-Dem
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the issue is she is so far left she swung tk the right
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:23 PM
Its so funny when MLs try to make a point.
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Ecxcentric
Yeah
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:24 PM
i prefer the term communist sex goddess and master of ruthless critique even against the communist left
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HOW CAN U USE YOURE CORRECT IN ONE MESSAGE THEN INSTANTLY USE IT WRONG IN THE NEXT
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
i prefer the term communist sex goddess and master of ruthless critique even against the communist left
Lol
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Sp4rks
HOW CAN U USE YOURE CORRECT IN ONE MESSAGE THEN INSTANTLY USE IT WRONG IN THE NEXT
I don’t care that much tbh
18:24
Same idea
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Sp4rks
HOW CAN U USE YOURE CORRECT IN ONE MESSAGE THEN INSTANTLY USE IT WRONG IN THE NEXT
liberial
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Sp4rks
HOW CAN U USE YOURE CORRECT IN ONE MESSAGE THEN INSTANTLY USE IT WRONG IN THE NEXT
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:24 PM
Its called nobody fucking cares.
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wait ecxcentric i have a very important question
18:25
are u a woman
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Yes
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Lol
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Women 😱
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💀
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real or trans
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Dude
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:25 PM
LOL
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I’m cis
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:25 PM
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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oh wow there are women here
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Why are you being transphobic
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Aren’t you trans
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You def need therapy
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im literally a tranny how can i be transphobic
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Kanye is a black nazi
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:26 PM
im transphobic against you in particular
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:26 PM
Also I just wanted to say, the reason you are being dogged on, is not because you are an ML but because you have shitty takes and partly cause you are a ML and a hypocrite @Sp4rks
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
im transphobic against you in particular
whaddabout u are u a woman
18:26
or is this server just
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@Sp4rks personally I think implying trans women aren’t “real” women is transphobic
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100% guys
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Idk maybe I’m crazy
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:27 PM
sparks when she gets inevitably hatecrimed by the dengoid patsocs she associates with
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:27 PM
💀💀💀💀💀
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
sparks when she gets inevitably hatecrimed by the dengoid patsocs she associates with
didnt happen yet
18:27
so
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Sp4rks
didnt happen yet
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:27 PM
bc you dont go outside
18:27
or communicate with anyone
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:27 PM
you have less praxis than me
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yeah youre ollllllllllld
18:28
weirdo
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@Sp4rks don’t you go to school
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Sp4rks
yeah youre ollllllllllld
I’m younger than you dawg
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what are you doing on a lego game
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Ecxcentric
@Sp4rks don’t you go to school
break until the 18th
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:28 PM
i started my communication with orgs and individuals in my teens
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Ecxcentric
@Sp4rks don’t you go to school
Make some normal friends
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Ecxcentric
I’m younger than you dawg
not u goofy
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who here supports fatah say aye
18:28
aye
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Sp4rks
what are you doing on a lego game
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:28 PM
leftcom indoctrination
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who here su[pports al nusra say aye
18:28
aye
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yeah its working
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:29 PM
(hosting discussions and educational programs)
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who her supports the iranian regime say aye
18:29
aye
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Sp4rks
break until the 18th
You can still go outside
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Kord
aye
aye
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who here supports isis say aye
18:29
aye
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Go to the mall or something
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who here supports israel say aye
18:29
aye
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:29 PM
neither israel nor palestine!
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nuke em
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
neither israel nor palestine!
yeah lets go iran
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I love Israel
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i hate both
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unlimited genocide on every single levant inhabitant
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:30 PM
== Déjà vu? We have been here before. Precisely three times before, since Hamas seized control of Gaza 15 years ago. The pattern is always the same. Israel makes yet another move to create “facts on the ground” such as the planned eviction of Palestinians from parts of East Jerusalem. Then Hamas fires off all the home made rockets it has been st...
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Cool
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Ecxcentric
Click to see attachment 🖼️
im the 1 signer
18:31
Slayed tbh
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Sp4rks
im literally a tranny how can i be transphobic
Bro says tranny 💀💀
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Fr
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whatever u have been mean to me :( @Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:31 PM
yeah
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say sorry or im gonna cry
18:31
rn
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:32 PM
its my ability to channel karl marx's spirit
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Go cry
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@Sp4rks do you get beat by your parents?
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Ecxcentric
@Sp4rks do you get beat by your parents?
they dont talk to me
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Understandable
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they kinda jusf
18:32
never have
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Go make irl friends
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ComradeDer
Bro says tranny 💀💀
tranny
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Sp4rks
tranny
go wank to drippin dads
18:33
itrs better thjan the sheriff of long gulch
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will do
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based...........
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Sp4rks
will do
You are a walking talking meme
18:34
the same way
18:34
u shitpost in mea
18:35
and get treated as a joke there
18:35
the same i do here
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Do you think you get treated with respect there?
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:35 PM
What do you mean, you dont get treated like a joke
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They probably don’t like you as much as you think
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:36 PM
You are a joke.
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Sp4rks
u shitpost in mea
I dont think anyone here actually cries because of thr stuff you say
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
You are a joke.
She’s the whole circus
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I have made many MEA member cry
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ComradeDer
I have made many MEA member cry
As you should king
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just vikter whos a downie
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And im proud ☝
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Sp4rks
just vikter whos a downie
BRo
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:36 PM
my reaction
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Ableist retard
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Sp4rks
just vikter whos a downie
That’s kinda ableist
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Ecxcentric
As you should king
"i bullied autistic people"
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Defo a fash
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Sp4rks
"i bullied autistic people"
Ive made everyone cry
18:37
You just use poor viktor to make me look bad
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:37 PM
i bully my political opponents
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As you should
18:37
Tbh
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:37 PM
unapologetically
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
my reaction
the vibes that you are giving off make me uncomfortable leave me alone
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:37 PM
My praxis, if you cant take a hit then dont fucking play
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Sp4rks
the vibes that you are giving off make me uncomfortable leave me alone
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:37 PM
what vibes
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
My praxis, if you cant take a hit then dont fucking play
W
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Sp4rks
the vibes that you are giving off make me uncomfortable leave me alone
That’s how most people feel around you
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:38 PM
this man hates revolutionary art movements!
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
My praxis, if you cant take a hit then dont fucking play
Ong
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
My praxis, if you cant take a hit then dont fucking play
no im just an online propagandist who advertises leftypol and genzedong
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
this man hates revolutionary art movements!
yes i am a national futurist
18:39
a term i learned today
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:39 PM
Bii bi bluu blah nobody cares!!
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:39 PM
yes i know you are a supporter of the fascist party
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
Bii bi bluu blah nobody cares!!
Fr
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nuh uj
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Sp4rks go cope
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
Bii bi bluu blah nobody cares!!
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:39 PM
banger quote from lewis
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ive marched in gay pride parades
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:40 PM
Okay
18:40
And?
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:40 PM
no thats
18:40
the nerfer quote
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:40 PM
And?
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Sp4rks
ive marched in gay pride parades
As a fascist right
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
the nerfer quote
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:41 PM
That quote is bilingual
18:41
And my fists are bi sexual
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
And my fists are bi sexual
im not gonna
18:42
comment on that
18:42
cuz itll make me look weird
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Weirder *
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:42 PM
Wtf
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Ecxcentric
Do you think you get treated with respect there?
also i cannot
18:52
stand this
18:52
you have insulted my position in MEA
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:52 PM
Good
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and you have insulted my members
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:52 PM
Good
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ill have you know i am highly revered in mea
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:53 PM
Yes as all cults go that is the norm
18:53
Go off
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cult of personality around my genius and all
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:53 PM
Thats a stretch
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
Yes as all cults go that is the norm
not a cult its deserved i am simply that amazing
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Sp4rks
you have insulted my position in MEA
And? bozo
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:53 PM
So you admit its a cult
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Sp4rks
ill have you know i am highly revered in mea
Sure buddy
18:54
The ego on this one
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Ecxcentric
Sure buddy
even the patsocs stop being transphobic when i show up
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:54 PM
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i am FEARED!
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
Click to see attachment 🖼️
yes
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Yeah buddy
18:55
Go outside
18:55
Everyone here could beat your ass
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Ecxcentric
Everyone here could beat your ass
Fr
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ComradeDer
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It is
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I have a gun too so!
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Lol
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:55 PM
@Sp4rks you came out like 3 days ago
18:56
0 lived experience as a trans person
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what do u know
18:56
arent u a woman
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 6:56 PM
im karl marx resurrected except hot
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
im karl marx resurrected except hot
that's awesome
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
im karl marx resurrected except hot
Deleted User 04/07/2023 6:57 PM
implying he wasnt hot already
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Daily reminder that Sp4rks has jacked off to animan studios (edited)
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ComradeDer
Daily reminder that Sp4rks has jacked off to animan studios (edited)
Didn’t you pin that in general
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ComradeDer
Daily reminder that Sp4rks has jacked off to animan studios (edited)
Deleted User 04/07/2023 6:57 PM
nooky man!
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Ecxcentric
Didn’t you pin that in general
I did.
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Sp4rks
what do u know
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:57 PM
She doesnt know 💀💀💀
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But A new day has started for me
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ComradeDer
I did.
As you shouldn
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ComradeDer
But A new day has started for me
Good morning then
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Thanks!
18:58
Im gonna play a napeolonic campaign for until 8 am now and then contemplate my life choices
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Oh
18:58
That’s sad
18:58
Good luck then Ig
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Sp4rks
what
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 6:59 PM
Nah this it to funny
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Ecxcentric
That’s sad
It’s epic!!!
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Oh ok
19:01
Have fun
19:01
🫡
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Me when Sp4rks is typing
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Ecxcentric
Have fun
I will 😎😎😎
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 7:01 PM
Walking L tbh
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ComradeDer
Me when Sp4rks is typing
Fr
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ComradeDer
Me when Sp4rks is typing
why do u have to make fun of me???
19:02
what have i done wrong???
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Sp4rks
why do u have to make fun of me???
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Sp4rks
why do u have to make fun of me???
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 7:02 PM
Why are you an asshole
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Sp4rks
what have i done wrong???
Uhmmm
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Sp4rks
what have i done wrong???
You’re annoying
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Rethink that for a second
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im the kindest person on earth what do you mean
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Genuinely delusional
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my ex boyfriend told me that
19:03
so
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Actual narcissist
19:03
I hope kids at your school bully u
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they do
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Good
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why do u think im like this
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WHY CANT I SEND DREAMYBULL SKIN CARE ROUTINE
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Sp4rks
why do u think im like this
Kid you don’t even have a door
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ComradeDer
WHY CANT I SEND DREAMYBULL SKIN CARE ROUTINE
What is that
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ComradeDer
Kid you don’t even have a door
y do u need a door
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Sp4rks
why do u think im like this
Ur parents never gave you enough attention as a kid
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Sp4rks
y do u need a door
Privacy
19:04
Obviously
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Ecxcentric
Ur parents never gave you enough attention as a kid
that too
19:05
i was just left to my own devices and got raised by roblox ww2 groups and 4chan
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Why would anyone want to be around you tbh
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Ecxcentric
What is that
Someone disabled explicit content 😤😤🙄🙄🙄 (edited)
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Booo
19:05
You should enable it for funsies
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Sp4rks
i was just left to my own devices and got raised by roblox ww2 groups and 4chan
Sad
19:06
No life skills (edited)
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I cant manage peoples private discord settings
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It’s giving future school shooter tbh
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ComradeDer
I cant manage peoples private discord settings
Oh
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Ecxcentric
It’s giving future school shooter tbh
no
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I thought you meant on the server
19:06
Lol
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Sp4rks
no
It is though
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thats too far weirdo
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Maybe it’s cos I’m American but you’re giving shooter vibes
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id never harm another humam
19:07
:D
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Ok buddy
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im a pacifist
19:07
:D
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Ecxcentric
Maybe it’s cos I’m American but you’re giving shooter vibes
100% this
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Sp4rks
id never harm another humam
💀
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Sp4rks
im a pacifist
💀💀💀
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im not joking
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Sp4rks
im a pacifist
Are u
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Ecxcentric
Are u
She supports Russia
19:08
In the Russo Ukraine war
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theyre
19:08
nazis
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Sp4rks
im not joking
🗿🗿🗿🗿
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Sp4rks
nazis
That’s why you support them
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no thats ukraine
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ComradeDer
She supports Russia
Yes
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Ecxcentric
Torture is bad
not against nazis it aint
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ComradeDer
Is that a Nazi
no ignore the fucking
19:10
tatooed swastika
19:10
on his arm
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Sp4rks
not against nazis it aint
Fair point
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ComradeDer
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Ovama
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Obamer
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Ovama
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bush did 9/11
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DeepSouth
Ovama
Knock off Obama
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as this stonetoss comic says
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19:12
Stonetoss
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Yessir
19:13
Make America great again
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Sp4rks
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Unfunny Nazi
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Ecxcentric
Stonetoss
what amogus
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DeepSouth
Unfunny Nazi
among us
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?
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he made the among us meme
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And
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So
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I don't care he's a Nazi
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Who gives a shit
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@ComradeDer ban her for Nazi meme
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he makes good comics sometimes
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wtf
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DeepSouth
@ComradeDer ban her for Nazi meme
Honestly you should
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Hmm
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no wtf
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I have a better plan
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der cmon
19:18
no
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What I will wear when it’s Sp4rks execution day
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1) roblox black underwear
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2) i will never let myself be executed
19:19
ever
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Sp4rks
2) i will never let myself be executed
Say that again when literally the entire server is at your doorstep
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t-they're n-nice guys
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Sp4rks
2) i will never let myself be executed
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 7:21 PM
the future party will have you on a list
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Sp4rks
2) i will never let myself be executed
Prove it drop the addy
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
the future party will have you on a list
futurists like me
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 7:21 PM
russo futurism or italian
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idfk theyre just infrared fans
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 7:22 PM
ok so italian
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(pioneers of fascism)
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im sure its unrelated
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 7:22 PM
are you in the ezra pound fan club
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the what
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 7:23 PM
u can read im sure
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no i just dont read american literaturr
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
u can read im sure
yes im fresh off of genzedong
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thats where my educations from
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Sp4rks
no i just dont read american literaturr
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 7:26 PM
Literature*
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fone keyboard
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 7:26 PM
Fone is not a word
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
Fone is not a word
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fone keyboard
Phone keyboard is easier than computer keyboard
19:27
Spell check bro
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 7:28 PM
Did she mean phone?
19:28
lol
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Sp4rks
obvs
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 7:29 PM
What do you mean by, “obvs”?
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shut up
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Obviously
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Sp4rks
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@Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) whats ur lefttard opinion on this
19:30
ill read it tmrw
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 7:30 PM
Are you telling me you meant to fully say the word, “obviously”?
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Pretty sure that’s what she meant
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 7:31 PM
Perhaps you did not fully feel like spelling it out so you used a shortened version of the word, “obviously”?
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I mean that’s how the internet works
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Ecxcentric
Pretty sure that’s what she meant
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 7:31 PM
Im essentially calling her out for correcting other peoples spelling and consistently doing it.
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
Im essentially calling her out for correcting other peoples spelling and consistently doing it.
Deserved
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She’s a hypocrite
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 7:37 PM
Also I think your stupid for taking deng seriously and considering him anything less than a class collaborator and sold out china to the west. Your, “Socialism with Chinese characteristics!” Is nothing more than blatant nationalism. The thought of, “Communism by 2049” is no more than propaganda and speculation to try and gain some relevance if at all, the PRC is nothing more than a capitalist nation using communism as an aesthetic.
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19:38
Could I say more? Yes I could but I think today has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that you have no idea what you are talking about beyond posting quotes and memes, you fall apart when anyone puts up an argument and you resolve to shit talking and name calling.
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:39 PM
yall still going through this?
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 7:40 PM
Your not a communist and I would go on to say you are not even a marxist-leninist, as actual MLs would have put some sort of backbone into your argument. You are a coward, no more than a helpless bully that can only make friends with fascists and others with no grounded beliefs.
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eridan (@QProtagonist)
yall still going through this?
Business as usual
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 7:40 PM
That is my conclusion.
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Ecxcentric
Business as usual
eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:41 PM
haha seems so
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
Your not a communist and I would go on to say you are not even a marxist-leninist, as actual MLs would have put some sort of backbone into your argument. You are a coward, no more than a helpless bully that can only make friends with fascists and others with no grounded beliefs.
Exactly
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#2036
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Basically a lib
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DeepSouth
Click to see attachment 🖼️
😱
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
Could I say more? Yes I could but I think today has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that you have no idea what you are talking about beyond posting quotes and memes, you fall apart when anyone puts up an argument and you resolve to shit talking and name calling.
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 7:42 PM
@Sp4rks
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
Your not a communist and I would go on to say you are not even a marxist-leninist, as actual MLs would have put some sort of backbone into your argument. You are a coward, no more than a helpless bully that can only make friends with fascists and others with no grounded beliefs.
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 7:42 PM
@Sp4rks
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Deleted User 04/07/2023 7:42 PM
shes sleeping
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Deleted User
shes sleeping
Is she
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eridan (@QProtagonist)
yall still going through this?
😭 (edited)
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:42 PM
love how we got a specified channel where we can just be as fucking bitchy as we want to other people but it turns into just someone having 5 people rip at their arguments
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 7:42 PM
Shes not shes malding
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Ecxcentric
Is she
Deleted User 04/07/2023 7:42 PM
ya
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Terminally online ppl don’t sleep
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Ecxcentric
Terminally online ppl don’t sleep
eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:43 PM
no i sleep...
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Your sleep schedule is probably shit though right
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:43 PM
uhhh depends
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eridan (@QProtagonist)
love how we got a specified channel where we can just be as fucking bitchy as we want to other people but it turns into just someone having 5 people rip at their arguments
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 7:44 PM
Its what they get for being a fascist and an asshole
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Exactly
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:44 PM
weekends 12 i wake up sleep at 3am weekdays sleep at 10 wake up at 4am
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Valid
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Basically the same for me tbh
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Bruh weekends i go to bed at 6 am and wake up at 1 pm
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😭
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Sir
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:45 PM
der u hve some interesting outfits
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In roblox?
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:45 PM
yes
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LOL
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ComradeDer
😁
I believe in you der, you will go to sleep normally for once
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I made that for my ex..........
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:45 PM
what is this 😭
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eridan (@QProtagonist)
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eridan (@QProtagonist)
what is this 😭
Interesting…
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Ecxcentric
I believe in you der, you will go to sleep normally for once
As long as capitalism oppresses me I WILL NEVER SLEEP #STAYTRUESTAYREBEL
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eridan (@QProtagonist)
what is this 😭
ME AND
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DEV
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WERE MATCHING
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ComradeDer
As long as capitalism oppresses me I WILL NEVER SLEEP #STAYTRUESTAYREBEL
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:46 PM
also were u a ML in the past 😭
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eridan (@QProtagonist)
also were u a ML in the past 😭
Not rly
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I was just a larper
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:46 PM
oh nvm that looked like stalin turned out it wasnt
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Sleeping is good for u
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You should sleep
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Ecxcentric
Sleeping is good for u
I slept til like 3 pm today
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And i have insomnia
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:47 PM
i havent slept at all
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so ic ant sleep
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:D
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Oh
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Damn
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:47 PM
give me someone else form the server to root through their outfits
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eridan (@QProtagonist)
give me someone else form the server to root through their outfits
We all know who...
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I slept at like 3 work up at 5:30 and went back to sleep till like 11
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The devil herself....
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:47 PM
id ont
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Sp4rks........
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:47 PM
oh yeah whats her
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username
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other than that
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FrancisTeuton
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:48 PM
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she has a ancom outfit...
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Furry
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:49 PM
ehh being a furry isnt that big of a deal
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Yeah Ik
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:49 PM
its literally just cosplay
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But like fash furry
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eridan (@QProtagonist)
its literally just cosplay
Ik normal furries are fine
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2hu
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Ecxcentric
Furry
Deleted User 04/07/2023 7:49 PM
thats alunya
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the
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i think i made those clothes
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Deleted User
thats alunya
Idk what that is
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:50 PM
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must be a old fit
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anyone else
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What about u
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😱
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:51 PM
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tahts all mine
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i dont wear like most of these
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Normal
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:51 PM
im junst too lazy to clean it out
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It do be like that sometimes
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I dont clean mine out cuz of the memories :)
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ALL THE LEGO BATTLES IVE FOUGHT
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THEY SHANT BE FORGOTTEN
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:52 PM
my saved outfitsaignore the fidel thats really old
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Lol
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:52 PM
also a majority of those are cosplays
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You’re a Scorpio ?
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:52 PM
no
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those star signs are cosplays
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 7:52 PM
Karkat
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:52 PM
HOMESTUCK!!!
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^_^
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eridan (@QProtagonist)
those star signs are cosplays
Ah ok
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:53 PM
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 7:53 PM
My profile is the color scheme of vriska
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:53 PM
u know homestuck?
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 7:53 PM
I have read it more recently due to a friend and i love it
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Which one should i make my next pfp.......
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
I have read it more recently due to a friend and i love it
eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:54 PM
i lvoe it too
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anything but the anprim one
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NOT ANPRIM
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Eco Anarchist........
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:54 PM
oh wait thats eco anarchism
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i mix them up
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 7:54 PM
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:54 PM
colours are too similaur for my lobotomy pilled brain
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
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Yeah i like that one the best too (edited)
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:54 PM
make a egoist one
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i dont have
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acn you make a trollface meoji
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i need a trollface emoji
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ComradeDer
Which one should i make my next pfp.......
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DeepSouth
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:55 PM
theres a soyjack on wikepedia
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eridan (@QProtagonist)
colours are too similaur for my lobotomy pilled brain
They are literally are the same colour so i wont judge you 😭
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eridan (@QProtagonist)
acn you make a trollface meoji
Sure
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ComradeDer
Which one should i make my next pfp.......
Red or purple
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:55 PM
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look
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soyjack on wikipedia
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Ecxcentric
Red or purple
Fair
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ComradeDer
They are literally are the same colour so i wont judge you 😭
eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:56 PM
i think eco was slightly brighter
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:56 PM
yeah see
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ComradeDer
Fair
You should pick one with warm colors
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Ok fair
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:56 PM
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Ecxcentric
You should pick one with warm colors
My editing app sucks 😭
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:56 PM
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 7:56 PM
To many fuckin flags…..
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eridan (@QProtagonist)
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Me af
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:56 PM
these pictures want me to blow my bra ins out
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/07/2023 7:57 PM
Me
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ComradeDer
My editing app sucks 😭
Did you make the flag on separate layers
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If you did just color drop the color you want
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:57 PM
WHAT IS THIS
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DeepSouth
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MEA HATER GANG!
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A C A B! A C A B! ALL COPS ARE BASTARDS
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You should make a group with the sole purpose of hating on MEA
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I love Oi so much
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Yessir
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If i didnt have long hair
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I'd be a skinhead for sure
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Cool
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Ecxcentric
You should make a group with the sole purpose of hating on MEA
We already have a uniform too
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 7:59 PM
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ComradeDer
I'd be a skinhead for sure
You could shave your head if you wanted to then you would be
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Ecxcentric
You could shave your head if you wanted to then you would be
BUT MY BEAUTIFUL LONG HAIR
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By a bald cap lol
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Also i'd get bullied the fuck out of
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Omg yes!
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Yeah makes sense
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 8:00 PM
ive nevert actually been bullied
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ComradeDer
BUT MY BEAUTIFUL LONG HAIR
Understandable
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eridan (@QProtagonist)
ive nevert actually been bullied
Same
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eridan (@QProtagonist)
ive nevert actually been bullied
Lucky
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Ecxcentric
Understandable
I want to cut my hair to my shoulders/chin but i want to grow my hair longer
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swagger
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 8:02 PM
i lvoe wearing the IRA fit because it makes some ppl so fucking mad for some reason
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"waah waah larp waaah waaah"
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SHould i put on my irl IRA outfit
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For the sake of
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Uhhh
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Sure why not tbh
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Deleted User 04/07/2023 8:02 PM
i love the ira and eta!
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i love sending francoist cars up to the sky!
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Yes :D
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time to watch homerstuck for another 4 hours while i zone in and out
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 04/07/2023 8:04 PM
kaaabloooeeeey ^_^
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Vanguard (@lVanguardl) 04/07/2023 9:26 PM
@Sp4rksyk its been a minute since I joined this server, I read almost this whole debate, please do yourself a favour and get rid of your attachments to nationalism and the mental retardation of anything relating to 20th century state capitalism.
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 9:54 PM
the accusations of dogmatism is especially hilarious considering left communists argue with each other on various things
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perhaps the bordigists are dogmatists to a point with their idea of "invariance" but
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bordigists are a fractured minority within the real world communist left
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
im transphobic against you in particular
Yuuki (@YuukiBee) 04/07/2023 11:02 PM
common clara W
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/07/2023 11:03 PM
i never miss
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Yuuki (@YuukiBee) 04/07/2023 11:03 PM
literally never
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
Could I say more? Yes I could but I think today has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that you have no idea what you are talking about beyond posting quotes and memes, you fall apart when anyone puts up an argument and you resolve to shit talking and name calling.
quotes & memes make the world spin 'round
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keep doing that youre just fueling my persecution kink
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wow ive gotten more attention here than in my entire life
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L bozo
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Skill issues
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Deleted User
i think i made those clothes
u did but i recolored them cuz i wanted them to fit with a hair
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whos jreg
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whos jreg
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/08/2023 9:01 AM
thoughts on this quote
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
thoughts on this quote
idk im taking a shit
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but if i were to say anything id just say "yes"
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/08/2023 9:07 AM
ok...
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whos jreg
im still waiting on this
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im still waiting on this
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/08/2023 11:14 AM
you can't be serious
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i am very serious
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Sp4rks
i am very serious
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Sp4rks
u did but i recolored them cuz i wanted them to fit with a hair
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ohh
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@Sp4rks A new day, a New Completely retarded argument in MEA (edited)
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ComradeDer
@Sp4rks A new day, a New Completely retarded argument in MEA (edited)
buddy you literally
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confirmed chicken's point
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by calling maga fascist
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and by calling me a fascist
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I never did
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Sp4rks
and by calling me a fascist
You literally harbor fascists
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Also you always seem to abstain from the conversation when it comes to "Antifa being bad" @Sp4rks
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ComradeDer
@Sp4rks A new day, a New Completely retarded argument in MEA (edited)
because antifa is totally a group not an idea
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Bro they are comparing Antifa to Azov
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This cant get any worse
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youre comparing maga to the kkk jackass
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ComradeDer
Bro they are comparing Antifa to Azov
also no?
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Sp4rks
youre comparing maga to the kkk jackass
All i said was that KKK members PROBABLY support MAGA
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SO?
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WHATS YOUR FUCKING POINT
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Sp4rks
WHATS YOUR FUCKING POINT
to prove
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that Ken was right
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ComradeDer
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HOW
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IS AZOV
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A WIDE MOVEMENT
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AZOV IS A REPRESENTATION OF THE ENTIRE UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT
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(nazis)
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THERE ARENT LIKE
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MODERATE AND EXTREME NAZIS IN AZOV
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ComradeDer
that Ken was right
he wasnt
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he said rodina is fascist
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lol
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fucking
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knobhead
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AZOV doesnt entirely consist of Nazis anymore
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ComradeDer
AZOV doesnt entirely consist of Nazis anymore
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kys
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fuck off
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leave
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stop
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stop baiting me
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Lol
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ComradeDer
AZOV doesnt entirely consist of Nazis anymore
Deleted User 04/08/2023 2:45 PM
it does
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Im not saying
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that theres no nazis
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in azov
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they recruit juus now :D
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- zelenskii (also a nazi)
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Deleted User 04/08/2023 2:46 PM
there is plenty pictures of people in the AZOV regiment using black suns
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Deleted User
there is plenty pictures of people in the AZOV regiment using black suns
look at the
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fucking
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logo
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what else do u need to know
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Is saying that far right ideologies have joined
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no lol
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Its just like those kids on roblox who dont even understand what fascism is
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theyre all just nazis
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ComradeDer
Its just like those kids on roblox who dont even understand what fascism is
yes theyre equally retarded
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yet theyre
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still
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nazis
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"not nazis"
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Is that every AZOV member
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"not nazis"
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im not defending AZOV
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They are all retarded
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you are
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lol
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But im just saying
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buddy
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you are
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defending
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nato nazis
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that its become more than just nazis
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ComradeDer
that its become more than just nazis
"they recruit juus too now 🤡"
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That other far right ideologies are in it
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and you call me a fascist
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at least try to not look fucking insane like icwp does
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AZOV IS A REPRESENTATION OF THE ENTIRE UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/08/2023 2:55 PM
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look at these Nazis in Germany guys they represent that germany is still ruled by the nazis!
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Sp4rks
and you call me a fascist
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
look at these Nazis in Germany guys they represent that germany is still ruled by the nazis!
FR!!!
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@Sp4rks
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oh so demsoc can post real life saddam hussein but i cant post roman thug
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yeah
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you are racist
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@ComradeDer
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@ComradeDer discipline this little man for posting nsfw.,,,..
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bro deltee d it!!!
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lol!!!
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i have a screenshot!!!!!
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Shut up im banning Sp4 rks
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ComradeDer
Shut up im banning Sp4 rks
NO
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NO
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NO
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DONT
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DONT
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DONT
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Kord
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no nsfw
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DeepSouth
no nsfw
u posted it first littlr man
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ComradeDer
Shut up im banning Sp4 rks
no pls
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dont ban francis
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plzzz
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Kord
dont ban francis
All they do is start stupid arguments
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read my announcement
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but we need a punching bag
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We dont
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stop memeing around
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MEA are literal nazis
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We're not allying with nazis
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im not memeing francis is fun to bully is all
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i dont agree with her at all on anything but shes fun to mess with
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Sp4rks
AZOV IS A REPRESENTATION OF THE ENTIRE UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT
Vanguard (@lVanguardl) 04/08/2023 3:25 PM
oh fuck thats some serious denying of facts
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are u bordigists @Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/08/2023 4:59 PM
no
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then what
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u have the chance of indoctrinating me cmon :D
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/08/2023 4:59 PM
Manifesto of the Internationalist Communist League “Be realistic, demand the impossible!” Contents Preamble The Historic Legacy of the ICL The Views and Aims of the League Relationship to Other Parties and Organisations The Organisational Structure of the League P...
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red tyrants disguised as liberators
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yo thats me
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/08/2023 5:00 PM
The ICL has a broad base but largely is representative of the damenite and chirikan currents
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our individual members vary
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myself included
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Yuuki (@YuukiBee) 04/08/2023 5:01 PM
i dont kno what those words mean
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so
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yeah me neither
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Yuuki (@YuukiBee) 04/08/2023 5:01 PM
yea it varies
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Vanguard (@lVanguardl) 04/08/2023 5:01 PM
wdym im not a broad
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/08/2023 5:01 PM
but we are definitively neither bordigists nor councilists
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Yuuki (@YuukiBee) 04/08/2023 5:01 PM
Im a broad
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wtf is @Yuuki (@YuukiBee) then
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u said in ur
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application
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that ure a council communist
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Yuuki (@YuukiBee) 04/08/2023 5:02 PM
I am
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/08/2023 5:03 PM
council communism is not necessarily the same as councilism
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Yuuki (@YuukiBee) 04/08/2023 5:03 PM
what does it mean then
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what do these words mean ;;-;
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(most informed leftcom)
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Yuuki (@YuukiBee)
(most informed leftcom)
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/08/2023 5:04 PM
LMAO
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/08/2023 5:04 PM
councilism refers to a tendency within council communism which developed at a few points, first with ruhle and then later on with others that completely rejected the usefulness of the party-form
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Yuuki (@YuukiBee) 04/08/2023 5:05 PM
me rn :smoothbrain:
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Why is left communism called that
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Isn't communism left
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Checkmate liberals
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/08/2023 5:38 PM
bc it arose out of the left wing of the comintern
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DeepSouth
Checkmate liberals
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Deleuzional 04/09/2023 4:21 PM
👁
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 7:57 PM
@Ecxcentric would you fight for the allies in the second world war?
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Brb I’m walking home
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 7:59 PM
ok
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
@Ecxcentric would you fight for the allies in the second world war?
No, I wouldn’t be able to, I don’t like war, and I wouldn’t want to defend American interest
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 8:03 PM
ok
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then i believe we have a similar opinion on antifascism
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Anti fascism is anti capitalism to me or at least how it should be
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 8:06 PM
to quote from gilles dauvé
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What is antifascism ? It doesn’t just mean being against fascism. It means a particular way of fighting fascism, by giving this fight absolute priority, particularly over the fight against other political forms of bourgeois rule, and first of all the democratic forms. (Similarly, “anti-imperialism” does not mean fighting imperialism, but supporting national liberation movements against dominant imperialist countries.) Antifascism supports democracy in order to get rid of fascism. This support will often be partial, critical and provisional, and think of itself as anti-State. In Spain, 1936, quite a few people thought they were practising a “revolutionary” antifascism: they believed the armed proletarians could afford to neglect the democratic State for the moment and simply take the anti-Franco struggle into their own hands without bothering about a bourgeois police and army made powerless by the workers’ insurrection. This was the position of many anarchists, Trotskysts and members of German and Italian left communist groups that went to Spain after the Summer of 1936 to join the anarchist or POUM militia. When Bilan told these comrades that they were in fact fighting Franco alongside the Spanish Republican army, and that no anti-Franco combat could be achieved without also combating the Republican State, because bourgeois democrats can’t and won’t give themselves the means to defeat fascist bourgeois, Bilan’s stand appeared dogmatic, absurd, even close to desertion. In the light of what followed, the forced integration of the militia into the regular army, the demise and crushing of proletarian autonomy, May 37, the destruction of worker and peasant collectivities, only to result in the inability of the Republican government to defeat Franco, this sequence of events rather points out to the opposite: by and large, Bilan was right. It was even proved right by the fact that many of the communists who’d been to Spain to take part in what they thought was a revolutionary process left the country within a year.
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^ very good
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 8:19 PM
There are different versions of fascism, what fascism is this group fighting specifically?
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And no telling me nazism, because nazism and fascism are two different things.
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 8:22 PM
nazism is a subcategory of fascism
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 8:23 PM
You do not have to insult me.
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They have similar beliefs, but they are not the same.
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
nazism is a subcategory of fascism
Yes
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Nazism is fascism but fascism isn’t nazism
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
They have similar beliefs, but they are not the same.
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 8:34 PM
yes there are differences between classical fascism and hitlerism
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they are both forms of fascism
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/12/2023 8:36 PM
no insults thats a warning
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
they are both forms of fascism
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 8:40 PM
Mussolini was proper and a good leader, the only thing he messed up was sending Italy into the Second World War.
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That’s what most Italians say.
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 8:40 PM
LOL
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 8:40 PM
Can’t argue with the Italian people, they created it.
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 8:40 PM
yeah and most italians are racists
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why are you even in this if you support mussolini
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 8:41 PM
I do not support Mussolini.
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 8:42 PM
"proper and good leader"
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 8:43 PM
He was proper, and according to most Italians, Mussolini improved the military, economy, and overall quality of life in Italy.
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Meaning he was a good leader.
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He also didn’t send trainloads of Jews to Germany in the Second World War.
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Only when Germany occupied Italy.
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And by then, Mussolini was out of the party.
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
Mussolini was proper and a good leader, the only thing he messed up was sending Italy into the Second World War.
That’s kinda weird my guy
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That’s kinda weird my guy
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 8:58 PM
Are you an anarchist?
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Maybe
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😱
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 8:58 PM
i am a communist!
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Slay fr
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Maybe
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 8:59 PM
How do you plan on enforcing moral law?
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Communal action
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Didn’t you say that you thought only Italian and polish anti fascist are good
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
Mussolini was proper and a good leader, the only thing he messed up was sending Italy into the Second World War.
But also said this
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 9:02 PM
Yes.
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Because both of them fought nazism.
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Communal action
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 9:03 PM
What? A mob comes up to their house and kills them? Sounds very civilized.
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No?
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Like what the Iroquois did
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
What? A mob comes up to their house and kills them? Sounds very civilized.
Maybe if they’re a rapist or pedo
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 9:05 PM
What about tax? How will the country pay for the people?
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There’d be no money/currency
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 9:06 PM
Do people fend for themselves or is it hunter gatherer?
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Like how it is now Ig?
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 9:07 PM
We live in a capitalist world, everyone lives off of capital.
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I thought you where just making a hypothetical
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 9:08 PM
No, I am asking you, how would that work?
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Like how it is now Ig?
Basically a mix of both
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 9:09 PM
Okay, is there a government?
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
How do you plan on enforcing moral law?
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 9:10 PM
i dont
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"moral law" what even is that
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
Okay, is there a government?
No lol
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
"moral law" what even is that
Rules?
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Idk
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I just figured it meant like murder rape and stuff
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 9:11 PM
if the only thing keeping you from such behaviour is fear of punishment thats a you problem
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Ong
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
if the only thing keeping you from such behaviour is fear of punishment thats a you problem
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 9:12 PM
Me personally, I have no fear of punishment because I would never commit a horrible crime, but it’s others that we need to concern about.
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Ig
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But you can’t work in the system for change
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
Because both of them fought nazism.
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 9:13 PM
but fighting against mussolini and franco is bad?
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Also didn’t Mussolini invent fascism lol
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 9:14 PM
technically yes
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fascism originally developed out of the national syndicalist movement
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/12/2023 9:19 PM
The whole system is corrupt, tear it down
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Yes
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It’s working as intended
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
but fighting against mussolini and franco is bad?
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 9:22 PM
It’s a good thing.
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But Mussolini was only killed for sending Italy to war on the Nazis side.
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I though he “fought” nazism
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 9:24 PM
Who? Mussolini?
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Yes
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 9:25 PM
No, the Polish, French, Italian, and Dutch partisans did.
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Also Lithuanian, Yugoslavian, Latvian, and Belarusian.
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Ah ok
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 9:26 PM
The Ukrainians did not.
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Either did the Norwegians or Danish.
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
But Mussolini was only killed for sending Italy to war on the Nazis side.
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 9:34 PM
what is your point
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
what is your point
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 9:34 PM
I don’t know.
21:35
I remember asking what type of fascism this group is fighting, and you piped in when I stated that nazism and fascism are different ideologies.
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So that is my point, that nazism and fascism are different because they do not share the same values in every way.
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Similar to the way socialism and communism are different but share a similar mindset.
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
So that is my point, that nazism and fascism are different because they do not share the same values in every way.
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 9:45 PM
at their core they are the same
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regardless of if they share the same obsession with race science
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
regardless of if they share the same obsession with race science
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 9:46 PM
Mussolini was spiritual, same with Mosley, nazism is racial, fascism is not.
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Mussolini did not like the Jewish religion.
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That’s different.
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And he did not kill them for it.
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He only wanted social and spiritual unity.
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Also I should tell you that these are not my beliefs, I am not a fascist.
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I will only defend what is historically factual and true.
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Also by definition what is true.
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Well fascist are usually racist
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
regardless of if they share the same obsession with race science
Basically
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Well fascist are usually racist
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 9:52 PM
American fascists, they do not understand what it really is.
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Also I believe you are referring to neo nazi groups.
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
American fascists, they do not understand what it really is.
Still fascists
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 9:53 PM
The only racially motivated fascist groups in the modern world are Ukrainian neo nazi groups, the Ku Klux Klan, and some American prison groups.
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Still fascists
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 9:54 PM
They are not real fascists, they are idiots.
21:55
No offense but your kinda giving “defending fascism”
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 9:55 PM
I am defending history.
21:55
You are mocking history.
21:56
My political ideology aligns with Vietnam and Laos.
21:56
I am a state capitalist, on the opposite side of the compass.
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Ok buddy
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
Mussolini was spiritual, same with Mosley, nazism is racial, fascism is not.
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 9:59 PM
yeah that's what i said
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what
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 9:59 PM
Are you only able to respond with a skull emoji?
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
yeah that's what i said
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 9:59 PM
Religious science and race science are different.
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:00 PM
classical fascism doesn't have the same race ideology as nazism but they are both fascism
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:01 PM
So they are the same, but one is racial and anti Semitic, when the other is militarist and economist?
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:01 PM
the nazis were also militarist
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what does economist mean
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
Are you only able to respond with a skull emoji?
Idk what I’m supposed to say it’s not like I’m going to change your mind
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:02 PM
like i dont understand the term in this context
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:02 PM
Well both had militarism and economy improvement, but the other had racial policies.
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That makes them very different.
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Idk what I’m supposed to say it’s not like I’m going to change your mind
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:02 PM
You can try, but you didn’t.
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:02 PM
we are against them both
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
we are against them both
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:02 PM
Thank you for answering the question.
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Now we are done here.
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That’s all it took.
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Wasn’t that so easy?
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:04 PM
you were the one being unclear and veering into a strange idolisation of mussolini
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:04 PM
Yes but initially I wanted an answer to the question.
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It only took hours of debating definitions and history.
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:06 PM
that is what we in the business call clarification
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:07 PM
The question was very easy to understand, there was no need to clarify.
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But if you nee clarification, ask that first next time.
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:08 PM
no not clarification of the question
22:08
theoretical clarification, clarification of our views and disagreements
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:08 PM
Now I am going to ask another question.
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Does this group hate imperialism?
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Most ppl
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:10 PM
Would someone get banned for being an imperialist?
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Ecxcentric
Most ppl
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:10 PM
Also thank you.
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
Would someone get banned for being an imperialist?
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:11 PM
i dont know but i will make fun of you vehemently
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
i dont know but i will make fun of you vehemently
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:11 PM
And why is that?
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:11 PM
nothing personal
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
i dont know but i will make fun of you vehemently
As it should be
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:12 PM
i simply channel the spirit of marx as i engage in polemics with people automatically
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leading to me making good points while being terribly insulting
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:12 PM
Maybe you should work more on good points, and less on insulting people.
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Because it is unprofessional.
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No one gives a shit about respectability politics
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Or should
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:14 PM
It’s why communists, liberals, and socialists get clowned on. They are loud, obnoxious, and unprofessional.
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Antifa is constantly going out into the streets to destroy storefronts and do what they want.
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Nazis advocate for the extermination of marginalized ppl but ok
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:15 PM
my professionalism extends when engaging people (read: other proletarians) in moments of struggle and in related contexts, and in dealing with other communists (read: adherents to the communist left and its derivatives)
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:15 PM
That is not a way to have your voice heard, because people just see that as dangerous and untrustworthy.
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
Antifa is constantly going out into the streets to destroy storefronts and do what they want.
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:15 PM
i do not care about the small business owner
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Ecxcentric
Nazis advocate for the extermination of marginalized ppl but ok
And conservatives want to genocide trans ppl
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:16 PM
is antifa effective? probably not too much
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
is antifa effective? probably not too much
It works as direct action
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Nazis advocate for the extermination of marginalized ppl but ok
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:16 PM
Nazis run a circus, they should not be respected.
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/12/2023 10:16 PM
No war but class war, dont throw insults please.
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
Nazis run a circus, they should not be respected.
Yes, but they are or at least it’s normalized to be one (edited)
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
No war but class war, dont throw insults please.
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:17 PM
Who insulted who?
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/12/2023 10:18 PM
Im saying that for posterity.
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Ok
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:18 PM
do i lose sleep if a nazi gets beat? no do i lose sleep over a broken shop window and looted store? definitely not
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
Im saying that for posterity.
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:19 PM
Okay thank you.
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
do i lose sleep if a nazi gets beat? no do i lose sleep over a broken shop window and looted store? definitely not
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:20 PM
So you do not care that peoples lives are being destroyed by anarchists?
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
So you do not care that peoples lives are being destroyed by anarchists?
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:20 PM
what people
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They’re Nazi shits
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:20 PM
small business owners? yeah i dont. as a communist i support the forceful appropriation of their property anyway
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
what people
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:20 PM
Small business owners.
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How
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Throwing a rock through a window isn’t that damaging
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
small business owners? yeah i dont. as a communist i support the forceful appropriation of their property anyway
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:21 PM
I always though communists were immoral, that’s evil.
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:21 PM
evil how
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:21 PM
Taking peoples lives and way of living from them.
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Don’t communists also destroy religion within countries and religious places?
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No or at least they shouldn’t
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There are also Islamist communist
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And other religious communists
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:23 PM
i believe in the abolition of property and of the workplace (in the sense of a place where you preform labour alienated from you (ie work) to sustain yourself), and a future society based on free association, free development of the individual, and free consumption of the total labour
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what about that is bad
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i want to abolish the bourgeois and petite bourgeois classes as part of the path towards freedom and a society built on truly human foundations
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
what about that is bad
Ottoman is a (state) capitalist (edited)
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Ottoman is a (state) capitalist (edited)
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:25 PM
Somewhat.
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:25 PM
state capitalist in what sense
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:25 PM
I support the ideals of Turkiye more than I do Vietnam.
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
Don’t communists also destroy religion within countries and religious places?
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:26 PM
we seek the destruction of countries yes, religion is complicated
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
we seek the destruction of countries yes, religion is complicated
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:27 PM
No state?
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:27 PM
the only "state" i support is the self organisation of the whole working class during the period of revolutionary transformation
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aka the dictatorship of the proletariat
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:28 PM
Was the Soviet Union communist?
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:28 PM
no
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but it was a dotp until 1921
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:29 PM
Has there ever been a communist state?
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:30 PM
no because the term is oxymoronic and because communism is not possible in isolation
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:30 PM
Yes, and do you agree that it has been attempted?
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:30 PM
has communism been attempted? no. has revolution towards communism been attempted? yes
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
has communism been attempted? no. has revolution towards communism been attempted? yes
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:31 PM
Then what has killed over a hundred million people and caused a nuclear arms race that also killed millions more with famine and the eastern bloc?
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Please tell me.
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Because most people know why communism is a lost cause.
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And why it is irrelevant in the modern world.
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:32 PM
nobody has gone "lets try communism" and tested out having a free association of producers and the abolition of commodity production (something not possible for a territory in isolation)
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
Then what has killed over a hundred million people and caused a nuclear arms race that also killed millions more with famine and the eastern bloc?
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:32 PM
two competing capitalist blocs vying for global supremacy
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
nobody has gone "lets try communism" and tested out having a free association of producers and the abolition of commodity production (something not possible for a territory in isolation)
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:33 PM
It may sound good on paper, how would it pan out?
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Do you think hard working capitalists will just give away their land?
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:33 PM
likely better than how capitalism is panning out
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
Do you think hard working capitalists will just give away their land?
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:33 PM
lmao @ hard working but no i dont
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violence may very well be necessary and i will not shy away from that fact
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i see no need to
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capital will resist and use all forces at its disposal to do so
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we must in turn, use all of ours
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
capital will resist and use all forces at its disposal to do so
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:36 PM
Capital controls the world, good luck being successful in a communist uprising, since there is no state, someone will probably just take the damaged communist society and return it to order.
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
Capital controls the world, good luck being successful in a communist uprising, since there is no state, someone will probably just take the damaged communist society and return it to order.
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:40 PM
did you not see the part about the
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dictatorship of the proletariat and communism not being possible in isolation
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
dictatorship of the proletariat and communism not being possible in isolation
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:42 PM
Like North Korea?
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
Like North Korea?
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:43 PM
considering north korea operates on the capitalist mode of production, just with the state taking the role as the largest capitalist yes
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NK is not a dotp
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:44 PM
That's your idea of communism?
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The DPRK?
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:46 PM
what
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did you not read what i said
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i said that north korea is a capitalist state, not a dotp, and has nothing to do with the communist movement except for the fact of the "workers" party burying it
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:48 PM
Are there any countries who share your way of thinking?
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:49 PM
no because that wouldn't make sense
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 10:50 PM
Without being a state
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 10:50 PM
there have been historical incidences
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of a proletarian dictatorship
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which is not communism but a precondition for it
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these include the RSFSR prior to 1921, the bavarian soviet republic, the paris commune, the shanghai commune of 1927, and some others
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most of them brutally crushed and the RSFSR being subjected to internal counterrevolution and degradation as a result of becoming isolated (this in turn a result of the whole international revolutionary wave being suppressed)
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 11:02 PM
does that make sense to you at all?
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 11:03 PM
I don't know.
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I am tired.
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I think I need to stop.
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 11:05 PM
ok
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/12/2023 11:05 PM
At first it was flags, then geography and culture, then history, now It's geopolitics.
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And I am not happy anymore.
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/12/2023 11:18 PM
this is a political space
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if that makes you unhappy i question your decision to engage in it
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
this is a political space
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 04/13/2023 12:52 AM
Nah, this is a playground.
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/13/2023 2:27 PM
true but a political one
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Peeps are good
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Fart
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OdysseySynth (@Geomatryguy2000) 04/19/2023 1:39 AM
I tooted
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That moment when u fart
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OdysseySynth (@Geomatryguy2000) 04/19/2023 1:47 AM
^^^literally me
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SAME!!!
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:09 PM
@Sp4rks
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Sp4rks is too scared to debate it seems
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DO U HONESTLY THINK
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IM GONNA DEBATE WITH SOMEONE WHO DENIES THE PALESTINIAN GENOCIDE
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BRO
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IM NOT ARGUING WITH FAR RIGHT EXTREMISTS ITS POINTLESS
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The fuck
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You can try to enlighten them then
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Honest reaction
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ComradeDer
Honest reaction
why do we let
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people like
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ihzzz
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here
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actual nazis
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supporting actual genocides
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You are no better
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try to not do whataboutism
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and lets focus on the fact that theres a zionist here
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There is a Jew here and not a Zionist
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Sp4rks
IM GONNA DEBATE WITH SOMEONE WHO DENIES THE PALESTINIAN GENOCIDE
Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:30 PM
when did i
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shut up
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get out of my head
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:30 PM
deny it
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youre not real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:31 PM
ig i'm not real
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fair enough
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Sp4rks
supporting actual genocides
Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:32 PM
you're literally a stalinist
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor)
you're literally a stalinist
shut up intrusive thouight
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wheres the bad part in that
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:33 PM
perhaps because he executed people just because they didn't agree with him
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source
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor)
perhaps because he executed people just because they didn't agree with him
good
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death to trots zinovievites liberals of any type nazis fascists priests
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:35 PM
alright wait lemme find it
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he also literally killed a person bc he stopped clapping
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source
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:35 PM
Estimates of the number of deaths attributable to the Soviet revolutionary and dictator Joseph Stalin vary widely. The scholarly consensus affirms that archival materials declassified in 1991 contain irrefutable data far superior to sources used prior to 1991 such as statements from emigres and other informants.Prior to the dissolution of the So...
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wikipedia is an invalid source
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Sp4rks
shut up
Sp4rks as soon as a valid counter argument arises
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wikipedia
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is also
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:36 PM
ugh okay wait
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not a source in of itself
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:36 PM
wdym invalid
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anyone can edit it + it has a HEAVY HEAVY lib bias
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:36 PM
no lol
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it gets read thru by people
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Sp4rks
wikipedia is an invalid source
Bro you use sources with gift shops and non existent authors 💀💀💀💀💀🗿🗿🗿🗿
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IT DOESNT HAVE A LIB BIAS?
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:36 PM
to prove if it is correct
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WIKIPEDIA DOESNT HAVE A LIBERAL BIAS?
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:37 PM
they don't have a bias
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The Chinese government has committed a series of ongoing human rights abuses against Uyghurs and other ethnic and religious minorities in Xinjiang that is often characterized as genocide. Beginning in 2014, the Chinese government, under the administration of Chinese Communist Party (CCP) General Secretary Xi Jinping, incarcerated more than an es...
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:37 PM
best source
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youtube
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history of conflict shorts
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor)
perhaps because he executed people just because they didn't agree with him
MEA be like
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:37 PM
yh
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Don’t listen to Sp4rks
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also this
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:38 PM
wym biased
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is a good video
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Her sources are worse
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:38 PM
are you saying it didnt happen?
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Literally have gift shops
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:38 PM
😭
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor)
are you saying it didnt happen?
which
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the uyghur one
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or holodomor
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:38 PM
uyghur
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do u have any like
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actual proof
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:38 PM
🤨
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that isnt from the fucking NED or CIA
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:38 PM
do you have proof it didnt happen
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like
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or the foundation for victims of communism
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LOGICAL FALLACY
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LMFAO
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:38 PM
i am not gonna fly all the way to china to check it out
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no but you know who did fly there
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:39 PM
but likeeeee
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kind of a weird assumption
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Sp4rks
no but you know who did fly there
The non existent author (edited)
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With the gift shop
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor)
do you have proof it didnt happen
Xinhua News Agency just released a reality check on lies about Xinjiang to show the facts and truthfulness about Xinjiang.
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Hey guys! Tiananmen Square didn’t happen also buy my merch!!!
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:40 PM
isnt that a chinese media outlet
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:40 PM
😭
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theres no solid evidence of the uyghur genocide existing
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:40 PM
ofc the chinese gonna say it didnt happen
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wtf
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bitch
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call me a bitch when u cant source ur false genocides
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thx!
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:41 PM
In an article published today in WORLD Magazine, RFI Executive Vice President Eric Patterson examines the evidence recently uncovered in Chinese government documents exposing atrocities the Chinese Communist Party is committing against Uyghur Muslims.
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The Chinese government's alleged actions in Xinjiang have violated every single provision in the United Nations' Genocide Convention, according to an independent report by more than 50 global experts in international law, genocide and the China region.
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Petition to ban Sp4rks
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:42 PM
The Muslim minority group faces mass detention and sterilization—human rights abuses that sparked the U.S.' diplomatic boycott of the Beijing Olympics
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lets not trust the cpc
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but lets trust washington
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i gotcha imperiali
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anarchist buddy*
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:42 PM
bruh wtf
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u want me to give you a source in fucking hindi or some shit
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fuck you want
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Don’t listen to Sp4rks
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u just posted articles dumbass
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She’s a schizo
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articles need citations
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:43 PM
so did you
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@Sp4rks take your meds
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yeah u literally
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ure the one who says
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(Leave)
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ure the one who says
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that a genocide is going on
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u need smth to back it up
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like actual empirical evidence
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which you dont have
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You don’t have evidence against it either
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you just have articles parroting VOCMM propaganda
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:44 PM
ive given that to you but you keep saying its not real
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ComradeDer
You don’t have evidence against it either
thats not how tha twords
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works*
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:44 PM
this is the fucking internet
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what do you want me to give you
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Sp4rks
thats not how tha twords
Yes it is
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:44 PM
an entire book
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Now shut the fuck up
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goofy ass fucking anarchist thinks hes above logic
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I am
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Now shut up
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Im god in this server
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You are a serf
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so called anarchists when given power (they establish feudalism)
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Feudalism against Tankies
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Yeah
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:45 PM
stalinist anime girl larper
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stfu
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being called a stalinist is the highest honor there is
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor)
stalinist anime girl larper
CP watcher too
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ComradeDer
CP watcher too
ok thats literally
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defamation
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ComradeDer
CP watcher too
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/29/2023 12:46 PM
Wait what
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
Wait what
It is true
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thats literally defamation 💀
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based on what
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:46 PM
lolicon stalinist 🤨
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Evidence
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such as
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor)
lolicon stalinist 🤨
Average Stalinist
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Sp4rks
such as
Your hard drive
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part of it
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specifically
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All of it
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Probably your desktop background too
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so funny
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Not funny it’s sad
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You are sad
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no cp to be seen
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:47 PM
man wtf is that
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they still look like children
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they...
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are...?
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Sp4rks
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Changed it
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Sp4rks
are...?
💀💀💀
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whats wrong if theyre children...?
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in the
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actual fucking anime
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theyre clearly older
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(fanservice reasons)
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:48 PM
even worse
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:48 PM
she has among us installed
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AHAHAHHA
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not only is your ideology spontaneous
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but so are you as individuals
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/29/2023 12:49 PM
What the fuck is this
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they literally
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:49 PM
😰
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just call me a pedophile
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when they cant source shit
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Sp4rks
when they cant source shit
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unrelated as fuck
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:50 PM
yo yo how old are they
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if yk
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Just leave in your own atp
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor)
yo yo how old are they
bro what if theyre children its not in a sexual scenario you dumb fucker
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Still weird as fuck
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:50 PM
their outfits dont look very kosher
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ComradeDer
Still weird as fuck
i would say smth to this but it might get me banned
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:51 PM
LOL
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Sp4rks
i would say smth to this but it might get me banned
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Say it
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Sp4rks
when they cant source shit
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 04/29/2023 12:51 PM
Neither can you going by the logic of “cited by libs,” cause the majority of your cited shit is cited by those funded by the CPC are legit government agencies of the CPC.
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I want to ban you
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Give me the chance
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Say it
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i have a feeling
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ure gonna do a vote again
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and when u do the vote then ill say it
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ComradeDer
I want to ban you
SPOILER
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:55 PM
NAHHHH
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Sp4rks
and when u do the vote then ill say it
We all know your sexual preference for children it’s okay
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Just say it now
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youre calling a 15 year old a pedophile
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ok
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:55 PM
well
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if you are over 16 you can legally be a pedophile
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which is soon
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Sp4rks
youre calling a 15 year old a pedophile
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor)
if you are over 16 you can legally be a pedophile
well
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till then
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:56 PM
AYO???
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considering the fact that im not attracted to young children
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ig im good
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Brooo
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Let’s fed Sp4rks
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To the Romanian police
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ure so fucking funny
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kys
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I can do it
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Sp4rks
kys
😢😢😢😢
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Sp4rks
kys
Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/29/2023 12:59 PM
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Literally
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@Sp4rks Say it so I can screenshot it
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor)
if you are over 16 you can legally be a pedophile
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/30/2023 1:53 PM
that isnt how that works
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a minor by definition cant be a pedo
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/30/2023 1:54 PM
nah u can fr google it
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13:56
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Let’s just all agree that someone who likes watching naked 8 year old anime girls is weird
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/30/2023 1:56 PM
i dont think having a GUP (a popular anime) background makes someone a pedo (in this case, attracted to people 11 years old), since they're like all high schoolers
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ComradeDer
Let’s just all agree that someone who likes watching naked 8 year old anime girls is weird
Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/30/2023 1:56 PM
yes
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
i dont think having a GUP (a popular anime) background makes someone a pedo (in this case, attracted to people 11 years old), since they're like all high schoolers
It’s not just that
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
i dont think having a GUP (a popular anime) background makes someone a pedo (in this case, attracted to people 11 years old), since they're like all high schoolers
Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/30/2023 1:56 PM
we saw worse ftuff
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stuff*
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Im not gonna
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Leak my DMs with sp4rks
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But yeah
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 04/30/2023 1:58 PM
do it
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 04/30/2023 1:59 PM
if you dont want to actually show it can you elaborate on it
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
if you dont want to actually show it can you elaborate on it
Well I’m gonna say she admitted to uhh
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Some very weird and questionable stuff
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@kaam @Ecxcentric
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Continue here
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brah there's nothing to continue
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This is deep
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it's really not
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Yeah it is
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All racism is rooted depply
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then ur a snowflake
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I'm just saying that you can't link ethnicity/race to like criminality or whatever
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what racism????
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ComradeDer
All racism is rooted depply
Yes
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Ecxcentric
I'm just saying that you can't link ethnicity/race to like criminality or whatever
there are facts and statistics that prove this
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and everyone knows it bruh??
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you have no idea how normalised this is in the balkans
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literally no gypsie will ever care
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kaam
there are facts and statistics that prove this
So your saying that certain races/ethnicity are more likely to be criminals (edited)
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gypsies are not a race
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kaam
then ur a snowflake
💀💀💀
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also its not me saying it
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kaam
gypsies are not a race
They’re still being discriminated against, wether they’re a race or not
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kaam
there are facts and statistics that prove this
It's because of poverty not because of their ethnic group
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no... most of them aren't poor
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literally they live in expensive ahh houses and flex their money all the time
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seen it all
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kaam
there are facts and statistics that prove this
Yeah but have you ever thought about why they have to do it
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kaam
seen it all
because of all the social needs they get
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kaam
literally they live in expensive ahh houses and flex their money all the time
Holy shit
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kaam
seen it all
Yeah man totally
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Even if that where true than is it biological
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my family has a few businesses, they all come and buy expensive shit and stuff like they spend their money without a care
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Doesn’t mean their rich
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ComradeDer
Yeah but have you ever thought about why they have to do it
because they're lazy
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Ecxcentric
Doesn’t mean their rich
then they're dumb and poor??
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AHHAHA
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kaam
because they're lazy
So true
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Ecxcentric
Even if that where true than is it biological
^^
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Ecxcentric
Even if that where true than is it biological
wdym??
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ComradeDer
So true
it IS true
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Is it in their genes to be criminals
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they all rely on the social needs they get
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Or whatever
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kaam
they all rely on the social needs they get
So?
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Roma people are literally forced to work low pay jobs if any job at all
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i never said that??
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ComradeDer
Roma people are literally forced to work low pay jobs if any job at all
that's cap
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No it isn’t
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Ecxcentric
So?
so that doesn't mean they have the right to steal
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ComradeDer
No it isn’t
have you ever been in a balkan country
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If it was cap the European Commission wouldn’t have started a whole fucking legal action against it
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But oop!
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They did
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you think anyone listened to what the european comission said
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Yeah 💀
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erm aktually
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Systemic Exclusion of Roma from Employment1 Ann Hyde2 The majority of working age Roma in Central and Southeastern ...
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exactly they dont have jobs
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kaam
you think anyone listened to what the european comission said
They have the means to do a lot of research on this topic, we don’t
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Our earlier article showed that increased employability of segregated Roma may improve their well-being and health. To achieve that, appropriate employment based on a public–private partnership could be the key. For optimal design of such a partnership, ...
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And the conclusion is that they are actively being excluded and discriminated
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So yes, it’s trustworthy and I will listen to it
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they're just lazy nobody is excluding them
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kaam
exactly they dont have jobs
Because of poverty ; ie theyre more likely to be impoverished because of discrimination
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kaam
they're just lazy nobody is excluding them
Listen to yourself bro
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ComradeDer
They have the means to do a lot of research on this topic, we don’t
im@talking about the governments
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Ecxcentric
Because of poverty ; ie theyre more likely to be impoverished because of discrimination
Worse outcomes in general (edited)
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kaam
im@talking about the governments
It’s a commission 💀
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ComradeDer
Listen to yourself bro
its not JUST myself, any gypsie would admit it as well, no gypsie would ever take it this deep literally
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Ecxcentric
Because of poverty ; ie theyre more likely to be impoverished because of discrimination
that's false
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Also take your time and look at the sources
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Anecdotal evidence
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kaam
that's false
How so?
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ComradeDer
It’s a commission 💀
and?
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kaam
its not JUST myself, any gypsie would admit it as well, no gypsie would ever take it this deep literally
The fuck are you waffling about
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Ecxcentric
How so?
because nobody ever discriminated them, they're just lazy that's it
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ComradeDer
The fuck are you waffling about
saying that y'all think you're being heroes but you're not
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It’s been empirically proven that poverty leads to worse outcomes and leads to crime
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you look goofy as hell
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Bro thinks an entire group can genetically be lazy or some shit 🗿
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kaam
because nobody ever discriminated them, they're just lazy that's it
They where prosecuted during the Holocaust what are u on
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most of them are
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ComradeDer
Bro thinks an entire group can genetically be lazy or some shit 🗿
Fr
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Ecxcentric
They where prosecuted during the Holocaust what are u on
um?? i think the year is 2023
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Same logic as eugenists in the us
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kaam
saying that y'all think you're being heroes but you're not
Whaaat
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We’re trying to tell you what’s really going on
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kaam
because nobody ever discriminated them, they're just lazy that's it
^
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But you are stuck in the Racism mindset
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ik what is going on, have you ever been to a balkan country tho?
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ComradeDer
But you are stuck in the Racism mindset
dude
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kaam
ik what is going on, have you ever been to a balkan country tho?
I don’t need to lol it’s the same thing as the US
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LOOOOOL
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kaam
ik what is going on, have you ever been to a balkan country tho?
Why would I have to do that if I have trustworthy sources and know people who directly work with them
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ill give you an example then
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ive talked to many gypsies
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Oh no not another fake example
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i live in 5 cities and in every one of them
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Can you back up what you say with actual sources instead of anecdotes
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ok ask any balkan person???
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kaam
i live in 5 cities and in every one of them
How the fuck are you living in 5 cities
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ComradeDer
Oh no not another fake example
Even if it was real it’s anecdotal which doesn’t really matter
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ComradeDer
How the fuck are you living in 5 cities
i visit a lot of people
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Ecxcentric
Even if it was real it’s anecdotal which doesn’t really matter
Yeah true
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anyway i ask them
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kaam
i visit a lot of people
The dweller
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Nobody cares
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Facts are facts
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ComradeDer
Facts are facts
true
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Your personal experience is irrelevant
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Yes
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and because of people like you countries in the balkans continue falling apart
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Woah yeah so true
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“The results indicate that there is a relationship between certain types of crime and poverty, and that income inequality is significant to all types of crime. Crime and poverty are prevalent issues in countries all around the world. Poverty has hindered the ability of developing countries to reach their potential.”https://digitalcommons.bryant.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1052&context=eeb#:~:text=The%20results%20indicate%20that%20there,to%20all%20types%20of%20crime.&text=Crime%20and%20poverty%20are%20prevalent,countries%20to%20reach%20their%20potential.
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I am responsible for a shitty government discriminating people for no reason
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i said people
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Have you even looked at one of the sources Excentric has sent
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Bro it’s just like when I argue with American conservatives
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We got experience in that fr
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 6:38 PM
the fuck did I come back to
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ComradeDer
Have you even looked at one of the sources Excentric has sent
how do i know they're reel
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
the fuck did I come back to
Racism in Europe argument
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im not even american retard
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kaam
how do i know they're reel
Bro
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kaam
how do i know they're reel
Do research
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Fr
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Look at the source
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its all infront of my eyes tbh
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Yeah now go understand it instead of sharing your personal experiences
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You haven’t provided source that back up what you say
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ComradeDer
Yeah now go understand it instead of sharing your personal experiences
make me
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kaam
im not even american retard
No r word in this server
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kaam
make me
Your loss tbh
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Ecxcentric
You haven’t provided source that back up what you say
erm okay
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You know you’re wrong
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ComradeDer
Your loss tbh
Imagine staying intentionally ignorant
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Lmao yeah
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i know im right, cause you've not seen what's up here and you saying it's the same as the US confirms that
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„GOD DAMNIT THEY HAVE PROOF RIGHT THERE HOW AM I GONNA DEFEND MYSELF NOW!?!!!?“
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where is the proof at
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because random ahh websites r not proof
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kaam
i know im right, cause you've not seen what's up here and you saying it's the same as the US confirms that
Oh my god
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Did you forget what I just said
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3 minutes ago
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yes i have dementia
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kaam
where is the proof at
Scroll up
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kaam
because random ahh websites r not proof
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 6:41 PM
those are studies
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 6:41 PM
that's a bit more than random websites
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
those are studies
Yes
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looks legit
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Damn really
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😱
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Studies vs personal experiences
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Which one is more trustworthy 😱😱😱
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"personal" 4 million people moment
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 6:41 PM
what's her point anyways
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It’s almost like my evidence is actual science
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
what's her point anyways
That Roma people are genetically lazy or something
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I don’t really know what they’re trying to prove
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they got pressed over me saying that most of the gypsies in southern romania steal shit
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Yeah and that has its reasons
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Also i think making a living out of stealing is way more stressful than having a normal job
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@Kenneth (@K3NNLD) (edited)
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Ecxcentric
@Kenneth (@K3NNLD) (edited)
then i said majority
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@Kenneth (@K3NNLD) (edited)
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 6:43 PM
damn
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ComradeDer
Also i think making a living out of stealing is way more stressful than having a normal job
Yea
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ComradeDer
Also i think making a living out of stealing is way more stressful than having a normal job
depends
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Depends on what
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kaam
then i said majority
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 6:44 PM
May I ask why you think they're doing it
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wdym by stressful
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
May I ask why you think they're doing it
They say they do it cause they are lazy
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
May I ask why you think they're doing it
millions of reported cases
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kaam
wdym by stressful
Quite literally the word stressful
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kaam
millions of reported cases
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 6:44 PM
Yes I know they're doing it
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but why
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cause its easier
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
but why
They can’t seem to answer this 🧐
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kaam
cause its easier
No?
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The fuck
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its easier than to having to study or work
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kaam
cause its easier
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 6:45 PM
But why is it easier over getting a job
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that's not their fault is it
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uh not everything should be easy? its easier for everyone
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kaam
uh not everything should be easy? its easier for everyone
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 6:46 PM
I agree with you
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but thats a systemic issue
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You can't blame the gypsies for the fact that something is easier than something else
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Instead you should blame the system for allowing and encouraging it
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kaam
cause its easier
No it’s not
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It’s out of nesscesith
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
Instead you should blame the system for allowing and encouraging it
souther romania is underdeveloped
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souther romania is underdeveloped
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 6:47 PM
Valid point
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then perhaps the EU or Romanian government should do something against it
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souther romania is underdeveloped
Because of poverty
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
then perhaps the EU or Romanian government should do something against it
the eu cannot do anything and the romanian government is corrupt
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result is
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minority cant do shit
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the eu cannot do anything and the romanian government is corrupt
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 6:47 PM
The EU gives large amounts of subsidies to parts in eastern europe to stimulate their economy
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they can definitely influence things
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As for the romanian government, that's true
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But that's not something the roma can control
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those subsidies arent put into the economy i can assure you
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those subsidies arent put into the economy i can assure you
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 6:48 PM
Yes they are?
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That's how a subsidy works
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firm owners take them for themselves and start building hotels
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kaam
those subsidies arent put into the economy i can assure you
Where the fuck would they go
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yes thats how its supposed to work
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 6:48 PM
Its literally pumping money into the ecomomy by definition
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but nobody checks where the money goes
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but nobody checks where the money goes
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 6:49 PM
Now that is a valid issue
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But then perhaps we should check it
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And we wouldn't have that problem
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
But that's not something the roma can control
if they're a minority i dont think they should try and "fight"
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kaam
if they're a minority i dont think they should try and "fight"
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 6:49 PM
They're not fighting are they?
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
But then perhaps we should check it
i dont see anyone checking it
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
They're not fighting are they?
they are fighting against the system if their way of protesting is stealing
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i dont see anyone checking it
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 6:50 PM
Yes so perhaps the romanian government should be held accountable by its people
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like it should in a democracy
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
Yes so perhaps the romanian government should be held accountable by its people
impossible
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kaam
they are fighting against the system if their way of protesting is stealing
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 6:50 PM
It's rather their way of survival
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still a way to protest
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 6:50 PM
That's not their intention
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when they steal theyre not like
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grrr im showing the romanian government that they suck!
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
It's rather their way of survival
Literally
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It’s more like fuck it’s my last resort I need to feed my family
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i know its not but perhaps they could immigrate!
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ComradeDer
It’s more like fuck it’s my last resort I need to feed my family
Cause certain people are denying me jobs with sufficient pay!!
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kaam
i know its not but perhaps they could immigrate!
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 6:51 PM
How will you emmigrate without money
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most gypsies go to germany or spain
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or the netherlands
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to make money
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kaam
most gypsies go to germany or spain
Bro what
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“Just move bro”
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HAHAH
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kaam
or the netherlands
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 6:52 PM
Most Romas I know as a Dutch person are chill so it's definitely not a Roma problem
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
How will you emmigrate without money
its not HELLA expensive also some people have connections and pass for free
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Still
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kaam
its not HELLA expensive also some people have connections and pass for free
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 6:52 PM
The cost of living is higher here in the west
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How are you gonna start off in the new country
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
The cost of living is higher here in the west
Yeah
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 6:53 PM
Renting a small apartment is about 1000 euros a month here in the Netherlands
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though prices here are insane
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Here it’s like 2500
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
The cost of living is higher here in the west
they dont exactly find an apartment, they go into firms and fabrics and there are places to live there and work
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
Renting a small apartment is about 1000 euros a month here in the Netherlands
That’s normal price here
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About 1.5k$
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they dont exactly find an apartment, they go into firms and fabrics and there are places to live there and work
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 6:54 PM
Sounds like hardworking people to me then
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as they should bevv
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 6:54 PM
such a shame that the Romanian government is not doing anything to help them in an underdeveloped post-soviet romanian hellhole
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Yeah
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Leaving them to rot in slums
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Without any support
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its not just them tho its mostly how most people live here
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i grew up in poverty but i never stole
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i js worked
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but ig bulgaria is js better
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 6:56 PM
from what I have heard from romanians
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it is
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kaam
i grew up in poverty but i never stole
That’s not the case for everyone
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Sometimes working doesn’t cut it
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Ppl have to get multiple jobs to survive
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working always works
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But still aren’t able to afford some of the things they need
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kaam
working always works
No it doesn’t
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We don’t live in meritocracy
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work hard and you will get to the top
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No you won’t
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Ecxcentric
But still aren’t able to afford some of the things they need
depends on where you live
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Ecxcentric
No you won’t
ok now google has many examples to prove this
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Do you think jeff bezos works 100x harder than his avrg worker
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kaam
depends on where you live
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 6:58 PM
Unfortunately that's once again because of systemic issues in certain areas
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kaam
working always works
No
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kaam
work hard and you will get to the top
Yeah man
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Ecxcentric
Do you think jeff bezos works 100x harder than his avrg worker
he used to??
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why is always the worker important
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Tell that to the people being forced to sew clothes 7 days a week
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why is always the worker important
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 6:59 PM
Because the economy can't run without them
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For like the entire day
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They’re each worth over US$30 billion thanks to an early investment into their son’s Amazon empire … but who are Jacklyn and Miguel Bezos, and did they really just buy a mansion off two RHOM stars?
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ComradeDer
Tell that to the people being forced to sew clothes 7 days a week
Yes
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 6:59 PM
The economy can run without billionares like jeff bezos
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kaam
why is always the worker important
They form the basis of our capitalist society
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And they need to
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OMG 1st of May
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IDJDBD DJSKD
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Anyways
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 7:00 PM
OMG YE
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
Because the economy can't run without them
they also cant run without the employer
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And they need to become conscious of their power
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The hardest working people get payed the least
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thats all objective
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kaam
they also cant run without the employer
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 7:01 PM
But that employer doesn't need to be a billionare like bezos controlling 10000 times the wealth of an average person
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never said that
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 7:02 PM
And society would most likely be just fine without employers, workers would be able to start their own companies
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talking about an average firm
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if the government helped the employer as much as they did thr worker
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it would be fine
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WHAT
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kaam
if the government helped the employer as much as they did thr worker
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 7:02 PM
But does the employer need equal amounts of help as a worker
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Tax cuts for rich very smart
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 7:03 PM
May I remind you that the employer controls much larger sums of wealth than the worker
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TAX THE POOR!!
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
But does the employer need equal amounts of help as a worker
depends
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ComradeDer
TAX THE POOR!!
YEAHHH
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because the employer also has to pay some of the worker's insurance too
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Good
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kaam
because the employer also has to pay some of the worker's insurance too
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 7:03 PM
That's true
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besides the salary
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and
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let me rephrase
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if i produce 5000 tshirts for 10000 dollars
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for an example
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 7:04 PM
2 dollar shirts damn
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AliExpress be like
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WHATEVER i dont wanna work with bigger numbers
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kaam
if i produce 5000 tshirts for 10000 dollars
That’s not how it works go read marx
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 7:05 PM
Let her talk
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youve not even heard me out??
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anyway and id have to give each worker 700 dollars salary
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and also pay their insurance about 100 dollars
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that makes it 800
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if i have like
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how much umm
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30 workers or more
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that need to help me produce the product
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That doesn’t make sense
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That’s a pretty weird concept
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I’m confused
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2 Dollar t Shirts
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Look up surplus value
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Pls
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YESH
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its an imaginary number??
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i literally said as an example
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i dont want to have to calculate weird ahh numbers
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Bad example
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Yeah but it’s very unlikely to actually be like that
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 7:07 PM
But what's your point
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and the employer is left with like
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idk lets say 2000 or more
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and he has to pay for the materials that were used for this
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what i mean by the country helping the employer as much as thr worker is
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the country makes the materials cost less
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and smaller insurance
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not tax the poor more
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kaam
the country makes the materials cost less
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 7:08 PM
That is a valid way of stimulating the economy yes
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But the thing is
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but they dont do that!!
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 7:09 PM
the government should assess it on a case to case basis
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and even subsidies dont cover it
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 7:09 PM
because a lot of materials are so cheap, because they have hidden human capital costs
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Such as cotton plucked by children jn bangladesh or whatever
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In those cases, why should a government be helping the employers?
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kaam
and smaller insurance
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 7:10 PM
As for this, that's also valid
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Because the insurance the employers pay for you as an employee, is for a pension fund
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Having the government make insurance cheaper for the employer is basically just state paid pensions
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
In those cases, why should a government be helping the employers?
because then they wouldnt afford it and they would have to raise the price of their product?
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kaam
because then they wouldnt afford it and they would have to raise the price of their product?
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 7:11 PM
Because the cotton is already extremely cheap
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because of child labour, improper environmental standards, etc
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well when you import it all the way from banglaedash its not so cheap
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 7:12 PM
Shipping things by boat is extremely cheap
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it takes long yes
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or when turkey taxes you for unnecessary things
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kaam
or when turkey taxes you for unnecessary things
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 7:12 PM
Now that is also something which is stupid
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But a government can do little about such things
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
Shipping things by boat is extremely cheap
true but its kinda awesome and epic when the bulgarian ports are closed most of the time for shipping because of "illegal" cases
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kaam
true but its kinda awesome and epic when the bulgarian ports are closed most of the time for shipping because of "illegal" cases
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 7:13 PM
Yeah I can imagine that sucks
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especially since a lot of the western economies, such as the Netherlands and Germany got rich through their exports by boat
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well yeah but i doubt they have unnecessary investigations at their ports
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plus they are way more than ours
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kaam
well yeah but i doubt they have unnecessary investigations at their ports
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 7:15 PM
I don't know tbh
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maybe this is just a case of Bulgarian corruption or whatever
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I'm not too educated on Bulgarian shipping
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thats fine you dont have to be but when you take all these things into consideration you'll know why employers also need help
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thats fine you dont have to be but when you take all these things into consideration you'll know why employers also need help
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 04/30/2023 7:16 PM
I'm not saying they can't use help at all
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But I get your point yes
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Though saying they need equal help to workers I don't agree with
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uh im not saying they need social needs
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/02/2023 9:39 AM
@kaam you love hitler
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kaam
if the government helped the employer as much as they did thr worker
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/02/2023 9:40 AM
THE HELL OF CAPITALISM IS THE FIRM NOT THE FACT THE FIRM HAS A BOSS
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Yaira has awakened (edited)
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
@kaam you love hitler
no i hate hitler
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why is every person with a different opinion than a leftist a nazi for you
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
THE HELL OF CAPITALISM IS THE FIRM NOT THE FACT THE FIRM HAS A BOSS
??
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kaam
why is every person with a different opinion than a leftist a nazi for you
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/02/2023 11:36 AM
im not a leftist
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you however are racist
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kaam
??
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/02/2023 11:37 AM
yeah
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
you however are racist
im not even racist but how does being a racist make you love hitler??
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
yeah
yeah what you basically said nothing
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
im not a leftist
literally says communist in your bio wdym?
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kaam
literally says communist in your bio wdym?
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/02/2023 11:42 AM
yeah exactly
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not a leftist
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idk if you know the political compass...
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/02/2023 11:42 AM
i dont have anything in common with leftism (the left wing of capital)
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bruh not LITERALLY a leftist
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leftist as in a person with left ideologies
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like the ideologies that are on the left
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/02/2023 11:43 AM
maybe you'd understand if you read more instead if basing knowledge off the "political compass"
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communism transcends the left
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??? dawg it's literally on the left
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what are you even on abt😂😂
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/02/2023 11:43 AM
all forms of leftism are only concerned with changing the management of capitalism, not its outright abolition
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erm aktually
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/02/2023 11:44 AM
from social democracy, to most anarchisms, to stalinism
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all leftism and all anti-communist
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/02/2023 11:52 AM
Yaira spitting facts tho
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kaam
im not even racist but how does being a racist make you love hitler??
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/02/2023 11:54 AM
you are
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+ you seem to support a corporatist structure whether you admit it or not
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
+ you seem to support a corporatist structure whether you admit it or not
how does that make me love hitler
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dafuck
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apparently all conservatives are nazis...
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/02/2023 1:10 PM
not all conservatives are nazis but all conservatives exhibited a higher quantity of hitler particles
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kaam
how does that make me love hitler
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/02/2023 1:11 PM
corporatism (in the actual sense and not the buzzword thrown by libertarians) is the classic economic structure (variant of capitalism) of fascism
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youre saying right ideologies have nothing in common?
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weirdddd
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i still dont see what fascism has to do with hitler
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or how any of that makes me love hitler
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kaam
i still dont see what fascism has to do with hitler
directly
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i suppose you believe in your own theories and i do in mine, i dont see how there's anything wrong with corporatism in general
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just because its a classic economic structure of fascism it doesnt make it a bad thing
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i bet you think the communist structure is the only one that should be practiced
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someone must have parents issues and its not me
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and also no, i dont support corporatism but i dont mind looking into it for benefits
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something you clearly can't do with anything because of your complex, masochist, dictatorship personality
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what exactly are you even debating me for here???
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like what are you trying to prove
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U seem like ur coping ngl
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no im just bored
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im trying to do my math homework and im trying to avoid it rn
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Alrighty
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so no need to kiss anyones ass
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Not kissing anyone’s ass lol just saying
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im also "just saying"
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The fuck
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Idk man
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👩🦲
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Tiddies
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kaam
i bet you think the communist structure is the only one that should be practiced
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/02/2023 2:19 PM
communism doesnt have an economic structure it is the abolition of economy
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kaam
someone must have parents issues and its not me
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/02/2023 2:20 PM
i do but im also an adult
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kaam
something you clearly can't do with anything because of your complex, masochist, dictatorship personality
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/02/2023 2:20 PM
most random string of adjectives i've seen in my life
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kaam
i still dont see what fascism has to do with hitler
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/02/2023 2:21 PM
what
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kaam
i still dont see what fascism has to do with hitler
What
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/02/2023 2:27 PM
der where do you find these people
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I DIDNT
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LKET HER IN
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@Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
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ComradeDer
What
i said directly moron
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
most random string of adjectives i've seen in my life
erm feels familiar??
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
communism doesnt have an economic structure it is the abolition of economy
uh okay right
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why the fuck are you even here tho
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i was gonna chill
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but you guys aint letting me
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Randomly being racist
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isnt chilling
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everyone on my dick for no reason
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kaam
everyone on my dick for no reason
"Yeah man those darn gypsies are the reason everything's going to shit"
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kaam
erm feels familiar??
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/02/2023 2:33 PM
what
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kaam
everyone on my dick for no reason
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/02/2023 2:34 PM
im not gonna let you espouse race science and degrade roma people
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your grandad deserved to have his truck looted probably
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ComradeDer
"Yeah man those darn gypsies are the reason everything's going to shit"
are you quoting someone?
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/02/2023 2:34 PM
you
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kaam
are you quoting someone?
Pretty accurate to what you said
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
im not gonna let you espouse race science and degrade roma people
gypsies arent a race
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
your grandad deserved to have his truck looted probably
how?
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on what grounds
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ComradeDer
Pretty accurate to what you said
you're reading what you want to read
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
you
anyone but me
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/02/2023 2:40 PM
you were arguing a genetic component of roma being "morally bankrupt"
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thats race science
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i was specifically talking a majority that lives in romania and i highlighted that
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kaam
i was specifically talking a majority that lives in romania and i highlighted that
and this is proven to be factual, not even my words
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/02/2023 2:44 PM
factual how
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show me the stealing gene
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i dont think you have the ability to read
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/02/2023 2:45 PM
romanians literally enslaved the roma for ages, you aren't just innocent victims
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still doesnt change the fact that most of them commit crimes in romania
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/02/2023 2:47 PM
doesnt mean there is a genetic component to it
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i never said there was did i
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/02/2023 2:52 PM
you did
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screenshot the message
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ComradeDer
@Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 05/02/2023 3:01 PM
HOWS THIS MY FAULT
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 05/02/2023 3:07 PM
who tf said they love hitler
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 05/02/2023 3:08 PM
No one did
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 05/02/2023 3:08 PM
nah nah wait
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD)
HOWS THIS MY FAULT
i just said you let her in
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/02/2023 3:16 PM
This is
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Fuckin stupid
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got a crazy brain aneurism reading the argument here
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tiktok addict vs yaira
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oh yea tik tok addict
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thats per week
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so addicted bro
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we definitely all believe you use discord 30 mintues a week considering you been arguing here for hours the past few days 👍
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Hey boss ..
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Wazzap
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just playing roblox man...
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u know how it is
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Thats cool
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yea about to go grab some lunch tho
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ive bbeen craving a poke bowl all week those slap u ever had one
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Yeah they’re nice
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i love it so much
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theres this local place in my city thats like subway but with pokebowl so u pick ur base and all ur toppings and sauces and whatnot
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its lovely
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oscarkh1
we definitely all believe you use discord 30 mintues a week considering you been arguing here for hours the past few days 👍
i joined yesterday
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or one and a half day ago
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actually 1st of may
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also
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i have a pc as well...
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oscarkh1
theres this local place in my city thats like subway but with pokebowl so u pick ur base and all ur toppings and sauces and whatnot
Niice
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yea man im getting ready to leave its DELICIOUS!
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kaam
actually 1st of may
No?
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30th of April
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it was midnight for me almost
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why are they even here man whatever they are doesnt rly align with anti-fascism
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oh well
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erm im not an anti fascist
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never said i was!
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i could tell from your racism
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that doesnt mean im a fascist
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i mean racism and fascism kinda... u know....
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people who are racist tend to have a lot of fascist qualities to them
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oscarkh1
why are they even here man whatever they are doesnt rly align with anti-fascism
Good question
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im not racist
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i mean its entertaining
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kaam
erm im not an anti fascist
💀💀💀
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didnt you bash roma people like last night
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Yeah
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also didnt bro ltierally pull the "i have roma friends i can say this" card LOL
this 1
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am i making that up
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i never said that
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kaam
erm im not an anti fascist
@kaam Are you gonna leave by yourself or do I have to kick you
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idk how many times i gotta sayyy that... i was talking about a majority of gypsies in romania that is proven to have committed a lot of crimes😨😨
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never said the whole roma population were criminals
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kaam
i never said that
„YEAH MAN I BEEN TALKING TO ALL THESE ROMA PPL“
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#general
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theres ur message
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kaam
idk how many times i gotta sayyy that... i was talking about a majority of gypsies in romania that is proven to have committed a lot of crimes😨😨
Stop saying that word you know it’s a slur
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yall are crazy
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No we have braincells
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we are crazy but u couldnt remember sending that message last night
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i dont see where i said "i have roma friends so i can say this"
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Least Schizo racist ong
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brother you basically quote on quote said
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"i have friends who are roma"
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im trying to prove a completely different point...
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you still said that brother
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i was talking about how i talk to some of them and they say these things
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yes
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and hencey ou think its okay for you to say it
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...
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LOL
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no dumbass, im talking about their laziness
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you can read what you said
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its right infront of you
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@kaam Just leave already man you’re loosing every argument
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you're not proving any points, i dont see what exactly you're accusing me of??
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you're jumping from topic to topic (edited)
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im asking how any of this makes me a racist
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man
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youre literally using offensive stereotypes about a race
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when i was talking about a majority in romania that is proven to have committed not a small amount of crimes
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how is that not racist
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kaam
when i was talking about a majority in romania that is proven to have committed not a small amount of crimes
^
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never said it was all the roma people??
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and im sure you can debunk it the same way we can debunk the issue in america
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aka you oppressed them for 100s of years and put them in poor conditions
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debunk what
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kaam
when i was talking about a majority in romania that is proven to have committed not a small amount of crimes
And you didn’t really want to go into the reasoning of why that is 🧐🧐🧐
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i didnt do anything dawg
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kaam
debunk what
Holy shit can you just leave
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youre openly racist in an anti fascist server man
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time and place
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ComradeDer
And you didn’t really want to go into the reasoning of why that is 🧐🧐🧐
i dont need to go into reasoning, you said i was racist because i said that majority committed crimes
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„Debunk this“ 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
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thats not the only thing you said
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kaam
i dont need to go into reasoning, you said i was racist because i said that majority committed crimes
Bro the fuck
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You just listen to yourself
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ComradeDer
Bro the fuck
that's LITERALLY what you got mad for
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because i said that the roma majority in southern romania commit crimes
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you literally sound like a 50 year old MAGA american called like Bob who goes like on a rant about the most racist things ever about black people and then cover up saying "I WORK WITH THEM AND AM FRIENDS WITH SOME ITS OK"
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I Never got mad I exposed a racist
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kaam
because i said that the roma majority in southern romania commit crimes
No
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i dont need to go into reasoning, i know their reasons, but my accusations aren't wrong
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Holy shit what a schizo
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ComradeDer
No
i'll scroll up and show you then
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your reasons are like
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not valid though
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kaam
i dont need to go into reasoning, i know their reasons, but my accusations aren't wrong
They may not be but you need to understand why it is like that
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You said the the Roma people are messing up the whole south of Romania
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if your tiktok infested brain is capable of it try going deeper into thoughts than "it is like this"; think "why is it like this"
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And I said how can that be blamed on the Roma people (it can’t)
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oscarkh1
if your tiktok infested brain is capable of it try going deeper into thoughts than "it is like this"; think "why is it like this"
why??
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i dont need to do that
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oscarkh1
if your tiktok infested brain is capable of it try going deeper into thoughts than "it is like this"; think "why is it like this"
Yeah fr
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kaam
i dont need to do that
Yeah you fucking do
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you arent capable of doing that*
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in court nobody's going to want to hear that
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cause you want to be racist
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Oh mawh gawhd
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how am i racist...
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are you a bit slow
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what do you mean how 😭
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ComradeDer
You said the the Roma people are messing up the whole south of Romania
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kaam
in court nobody's going to want to hear that
Well you are not going to court, are you?
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kaam
Click to see attachment 🖼️
THATS LITERALLY
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but roma people are
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what I just said
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just think a bit deeper
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ComradeDer
And I said how can that be blamed on the Roma people (it can’t)
.
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why are they this way
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oscarkh1
just think a bit deeper
Fr
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its because of your people oppressing them
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thats all you need to know
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Why do they have to commit these crimes
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But we already had this debate
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when you commit a crime nobodys going to ask you why you did it in court
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???
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It seems like you just forgot everything
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have you ever watched court cam LOL
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oscarkh1
its because of your people oppressing them
who are my people
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kaam
when you commit a crime nobodys going to ask you why you did it in court
JAJA
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i guess its not really big on tiktok yet so i assume you havent seen it yet
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NOOOO 😭😭
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but go on any courtcam on youtube
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they always ask why the crime was committed to the accused
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but alright
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Oh my god this the most sad shit ever
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yall gonna tell me how bulgarian court works?
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THERE IS NO FUCKING COURT HERE
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im sure youve watched a lot of documentaries on bulgarian courts yeah
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you can drop the whole court point though
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it makes no sense
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Literally
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oscarkh1
they always ask why the crime was committed to the accused
yeah but they dont say "oh youre poor thats why you stole welp youre free to go"
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no one here
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Yeah because
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The government
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Id
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Is
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Corrupt as fuck
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has defended the act
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And doesn’t admit that it’s shit
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that's not my problem
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no one has said that its good that your grandpa got robbed by a roma once in like 1887 and now you eternally hate the roma
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oscarkh1
has defended the act
they have the right to defend themselves but in court thats not a reasonable argument
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kaam
that's not my problem
Okay then shut the fuck up if you don’t care about this problem
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why are you still talking about court cases
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oscarkh1
no one has said that its good that your grandpa got robbed by a roma once in like 1887 and now you eternally hate the roma
i never said i hate the roma?
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You’ve expressed very questionably negative opinions about them
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oscarkh1
why are you still talking about court cases
because its important
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ComradeDer
You’ve expressed very questionably negative opinions about them
the southern majority of roma people in romania
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thats totally the whole@roma population
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its so important to compare a discord channel to courthouses youre right
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here we go again
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kaam
because its important
It isn’t as important as the whole reason for why they do this
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If you have the reason
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take a shot every time roma people in southern romania is mentioned
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You can stop it from happening
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oscarkh1
its so important to compare a discord channel to courthouses youre right
who gives a fuck about some random discord channel??
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Nobody gives a fuck about your court omg
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you give enough of a fuck about it to compare it to a court room
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ComradeDer
You can stop it from happening
how?
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Yeah
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oscarkh1
you give enough of a fuck about it to compare it to a court room
im saying my arguments would win
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yeahh im sure they would
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kaam
how?
Exposing the Romanian state, abolishing it Troll
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because not discord is going to determine your future
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did you learn to argue on tiktok as well mate
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its pretty shallow level
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oscarkh1
yeahh im sure they would
i literally just explained why
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kaam
im saying my arguments would win
yeah well this isn’t some random corrupt court
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This is a place with people who actually think
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im saying discord isnt real life
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ComradeDer
This is a place with people who actually think
how does that help you in life
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It’s just a chatting platform lmao
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We are all real
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how does that help you from being sued
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and going to jail
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kaam
im saying discord isnt real life
you seem to treat it pretty real though as youve connected every personal socialm edia platform to it though along with a selfie
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so idk if we are the ones taking it seriously
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or the other way around
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kaam
how does that help you in life
Oh my god why are you still fucking trying to make this a court case
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oscarkh1
you seem to treat it pretty real though as youve connected every personal socialm edia platform to it though along with a selfie
ever heard of an internet personality and communicating with other people online?
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It isn’t
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Get over it
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then why are you so pressed
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Nobody here is pressed we’re just telling your that your court arguments are trash
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kaam
ever heard of an internet personality and communicating with other people online?
thgat makes no sense..? if you wanted an internet personality you WOULDNT connect ur real life to it 😭
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not in court
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idk if something here is getting lost in translation or whats up but
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kaam
not in court
Holy shit
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oscarkh1
thgat makes no sense..? if you wanted an internet personality you WOULDNT connect ur real life to it 😭
um alright those are my real accounts guys!
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do you understand what were saying
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definitely not alts
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except spotify
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yeah we all believe that
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hopefully
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god this hurts
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Okay now
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i hope it does
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@kaam Can you leave
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Or are you gonna
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Have to be kicked
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please make separate channel where we can debate her
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Nah I ain’t having this shit
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its too funny
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It’s annoying too
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we should just have a chanbnel where we can put people like this
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Theres no hope to re educate this schizo
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Well that’s literally this channel
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i peeped the spotify
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watch this little trick
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We made it for sp4rks lol
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@kaam local
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ComradeDer
Have to be kicked
why didnt you do that already tho
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Because I don’t like kicking people
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I ask people first
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didnt work
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crap.
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oscarkh1
@kaam local
whatt...
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kaam
weirdo
💀
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Will you leave
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sorry i peeped the spotify and thought that would work
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Or not
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Yes or no
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oscarkh1
sorry i peeped the spotify and thought that would work
wdym
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oscarkh1
sorry i peeped the spotify and thought that would work
If I was on my pc I could do some magic too Troll
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Ok anyways
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no you cant
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@kaam
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Go
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Fucking
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Leave
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Press the button
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It’s not that hard
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wait wait i wanna see you do some "magic"
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kaam
wdym
not deep enough in the ldr role
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true local
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kaam
wait wait i wanna see you do some "magic"
I Said if I was on my pc
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Im not
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get on your pc then
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No
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Im outside
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when you go home
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yess let me rush to my pc and boot it up and open discord just to kick someone 🙀
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Now leave oh my god
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oscarkh1
yess let me rush to my pc and boot it up and open discord just to kick someone 🙀
😭
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oscarkh1
yess let me rush to my pc and boot it up and open discord just to kick someone 🙀
thats not what he meant
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 05/03/2023 4:58 AM
What kind of a clusterfuck js this
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its literally what he meant
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Yeah Alr I’m gonna kick you now
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kenneth its some sick trolling
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youre saying you cant do it from mobile?
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oscarkh1
its literally what he meant
he wants to doxx me or smth
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oscarkh1
its literally what he meant
No I meant something else
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i wanna see it
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No
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Id Never doxx anyone
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Am I right guys
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yea dude.-..
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never...
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ComradeDer
Am I right guys
Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 05/03/2023 4:59 AM
100% factual
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ive doxxed two paedophiles i got a clean track record
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i meant
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havent
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That reminds me I still have to get Sp4rks arrested
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discord ToS and stuff
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oscarkh1
ive doxxed two paedophiles i got a clean track record
Based
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yea one of them got sent to court and got put on house arrest LOL
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LMAO
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i should still have the court doc somewhere
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Ok she is gone
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Finally
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god bless america
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nah bro fr if we got some alt right larp kids to dox pls hmu
🇼 3
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i miss doing it
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 05/03/2023 5:02 AM
why did it take so long
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We needed to
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Humiliate her more
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dude
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Slayed popped off
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at one point i was like 100% she was just trolling
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when it hit me that she was serious
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oh no
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oscarkh1
nah bro fr if we got some alt right larp kids to dox pls hmu
Well there’s uhh this pedo called sp4rks
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But we already did the funny
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what do u have on him
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Did u swat her
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As of now I don’t have any Nazis discords that’s aren’t alts
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how much info u got
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oscarkh1
what do u have on him
Address, name
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City
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fuck already got the addy
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no cause i dont wanna flex
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u know geoguessr
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Credit card number
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Yds
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im a beast on it so im crazy at geolocating people based on pictres they send lolol
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ComradeDer
Credit card number
U should spend her money
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Nice
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That’d useful
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no yea wait
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Ecxcentric
U should spend her money
LOL
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let me see if i can find sometihng
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the one pedo me and my friend got
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we got all his info thru one pic
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1 sec
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Alr
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Damn
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Slayed
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having to look thru all my files
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jfiawhfjai
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This is supposedly near sp4rks house
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 05/03/2023 5:12 AM
we found the address as well
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Yes
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Dude the hell have i deleted it
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ill see if i can find it later
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bro
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they rly dropped that
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the picture of their house
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LOL
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She later admitted it was only close so
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But we still got the real address
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what an idiot
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Yeah lmfao
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Literally doxxed herself for attention
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She’s so weird
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Maybe she’s like a ten yr old
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 05/03/2023 5:26 AM
wouldn't be surprised
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Shes uh
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15
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She acts like she’s a lil kid though
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Tbh
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Yea
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That’s true
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/03/2023 11:18 PM
Isn't Sparks a former member?
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I don't know because I am still fairly new to the group.
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
Isn't Sparks a former member?
ya
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/03/2023 11:25 PM
And what did they do?
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 05/04/2023 3:43 AM
a lot of very questionable stuff to say the least
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
And what did they do?
She is friends with nazis, has a bad opinion on anti fascism in general and doesn’t understand it, uses slurs more than me,
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AND THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE
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Pedophilia allegations
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Kenneth (@K3NNLD) 05/04/2023 6:05 AM
don't forget that she made discriminatory statements about islamic people before getting absolutely shattered by facts
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True
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/04/2023 8:08 AM
Mob justice 😈
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Pineapples don’t belong on pizza
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Cilantro and celery is gross
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😱
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 10:36 PM
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What looks best?
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Red and black
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 10:54 PM
I'm not sure, it looks very anarchist.
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That’s why it’s cool
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😎
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 10:57 PM
Anarchism is not cool.
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It is
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 10:57 PM
Look at mob justice in Nicaragua then.
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That's anarchism.
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Well everyone’s different
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 10:58 PM
The Zapatista controlled jungles of Mexico are brutal.
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Zapatistas aren’t anarchist
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 10:58 PM
They are.
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No they aren’t
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 10:59 PM
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They are left wing socialists, marxists, and anarchists.
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“Anarchists: An anarchist is someone who subscribes to a political doctrine that contends that all forms of government are innately bad. The word "anarchy" comes from the Greek word anarchos, which literally means "without authority." Answer and Explanation: No, the Zapatistas in Mexico in the early 1990s were not anarchists. The Zapatistas were against the one-party regime that dominated Mexico at the time, the Party of the Institutionalized Revolution (PRI), but they were not against all forms of government. In fact, the Zapatistas took over towns in the Mexican state of Chiapas, managing them under their own authority, which was not anarchy. They did sometimes free all prisoners in towns they overtook. While this could be interpreted as an anarchist action, the main reason why the Zapatistas did this was to serve their version of justice to those who had been imprisoned for political reasons and also to generate support for their movement. The Zapatistas were also in favor of retaining government-controlled collective farms, which ran counter to anarchy.”
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:00 PM
Yes but now they are still controlling parts of Mexico, and that's no longer relevant, also they were against NAFTA and they wanted indigenous Mayans land to be returned to them.
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They weren't anarchists, they are now.
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You are speaking in past tense, I am talking about the current state of the Zapatistas.
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islamic state west africa province
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:03 PM
Is your username in Sumerian?
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:04 PM
Cool.
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I too love the cradle of civilisation.
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:04 PM
A better time.
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In a better place.
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i dunno about that
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:05 PM
Compared to society today.
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society maybe
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:05 PM
By a long shot.
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but in general
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i disagree
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:05 PM
In general yes.
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Because of advancements and language / religion.
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and medicine
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technology
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etc
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:06 PM
But culturally the world is breaking down in the West.
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While the East is retaining their strong and united cultures.
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Instead of shaming their ancestors for the wars they fought, they respect them and praise them for their service.
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Ecxcentric
“Anarchists: An anarchist is someone who subscribes to a political doctrine that contends that all forms of government are innately bad. The word "anarchy" comes from the Greek word anarchos, which literally means "without authority." Answer and Explanation: No, the Zapatistas in Mexico in the early 1990s were not anarchists. The Zapatistas were against the one-party regime that dominated Mexico at the time, the Party of the Institutionalized Revolution (PRI), but they were not against all forms of government. In fact, the Zapatistas took over towns in the Mexican state of Chiapas, managing them under their own authority, which was not anarchy. They did sometimes free all prisoners in towns they overtook. While this could be interpreted as an anarchist action, the main reason why the Zapatistas did this was to serve their version of justice to those who had been imprisoned for political reasons and also to generate support for their movement. The Zapatistas were also in favor of retaining government-controlled collective farms, which ran counter to anarchy.”
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:12 PM
Anyway I am going with the black and white.
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The anarchist shit makes me feel uncomfortable.
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
They weren't anarchists, they are now.
Idk if that’s true but they weren’t anarchist, they where just anarchistic with their praxis
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:13 PM
Especially after the videos I have seen of anarchism in effect.
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Lol ok
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Ecxcentric
Idk if that’s true but they weren’t anarchist, they where just anarchistic with their praxis
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:13 PM
So in other words, they were anarchist.
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Ok buddy
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:14 PM
I forgor this was debates
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ISWAP>boko haram
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debate me,,,,,,
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:17 PM
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:20 PM
I do not like islamic states.
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Otherwise rebels.
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I like official and righteous states of Islam.
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Like Turkiye, UAE, Oman, Saudi Arabia.
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Etc.
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love isis
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hate real states
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:22 PM
Why?
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:22 PM
Is it actual beliefs or just the way they look?
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im kidding mane but yes i larp as isis and shit cuz they look cool!!!!!
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super badass!!!!!
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idgaf about middle east isis
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lame and boring
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isis in africa more badass
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(iswap)
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<3
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yeah im not even muslim i just larp
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and that has become a problem to some people
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cough cough 5i..
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fuck 5i
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:24 PM
What is 5i?
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some retarded fake leftist group full of dumbasses
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:25 PM
The only unofficial Islamic state I support is Hamas.
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hamas is mid
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fatah bet te r
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:25 PM
They work together.
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At times.
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When Jihad is declared.
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:30 PM
The greatest of the Islamic nations to ever exist, was the Ottoman empire, Safavid Empire of Persia, and the Mughal Empire.
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The Ottomans being the greatest of them all.
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
Look at mob justice in Nicaragua then.
What 💀
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
The Zapatista controlled jungles of Mexico are brutal.
BAHAHAHA
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BROOO
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those darn freedom fighters!!!!!
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ComradeDer
What 💀
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:48 PM
They use tractor tires to bash peoples skulls in, then they showed their brain tissue to the camera.
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It's like anarchism went back in time.
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The Zapatistas were and are libsocs. Of course there is anarchists among them, but are they all anarchist? No.
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:48 PM
It is uncivilised.
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
They use tractor tires to bash peoples skulls in, then they showed their brain tissue to the camera.
Wow!
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I sure hope Americans wouldn’t do that
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Oh-
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ComradeDer
The Zapatistas were and are libsocs. Of course there is anarchists among them, but are they all anarchist? No.
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:49 PM
No of course not, but they allow such a thing to be implemented into their controlled villages as of now.
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
No of course not, but they allow such a thing to be implemented into their controlled villages as of now.
No
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ComradeDer
I sure hope Americans wouldn’t do that
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:49 PM
What does America have to do with this?
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
What does America have to do with this?
Im saying
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That when there is war
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This shot happens
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:49 PM
America is diseased, rotten to the core, there's no saving it.
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Americans did this shit in Iraq
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
America is diseased, rotten to the core, there's no saving it.
That’s not an argument buddy
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ComradeDer
That when there is war
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:50 PM
Yes.
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But in regular civilian society?
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Why would anyone want that?
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Regular
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Lol
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Do you even have proof of that or is it just some propaganda you saw
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:51 PM
Why would we want a society that allows anything to happen, and justice goes to the mob, and not the individual.
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The fuck
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ComradeDer
Do you even have proof of that or is it just some propaganda you saw
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:51 PM
I have the video on NSFL.
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It was in Nicaragua.
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I don’t think you quite understand what anarchism is
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And the Zapatistas still aren’t anarchist so
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:52 PM
A friend friend showed me and explained how anarchism has a justice system built on mob justice.
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Yeah? And who’s this friend
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ComradeDer
I don’t think you quite understand what anarchism is
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:52 PM
Please explain it to me, I am very open minded.
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Ok
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ComradeDer
Yeah? And who’s this friend
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:52 PM
Just someone I know.
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First of all
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Anarchism
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Is not an ideology
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It’s a spectrum
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There are many different ways of anarchism and how anarchism is interpreted
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Theres Anarcho communists, like me and Excentric, who want to establish a communist society by the abolition of the state
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Theres Anarcho individualists, Anarcho capitalists etc etc
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So by viewing it as a whole and saying „😱😱😱😱😱😱😱 Anarchism kill people oh uh!!!“
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You are already wrong
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Cause a spectrum can’t kill people
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People kill people
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Now
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A justice system, can once again be different from which anarchist you ask
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Could you elaborate on what he told you about „mob justice“
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
Like Turkiye, UAE, Oman, Saudi Arabia.
Turkey 💀
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Ah shit the other ones on the list are just as bad
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ComradeDer
Turkey 💀
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:58 PM
Name a good islamic country.
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None
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I hate theocratic countries
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Religion should have nothing to do with the state
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BUT THATS OFF THE POINT
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ComradeDer
Could you elaborate on what he told you about „mob justice“
.
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Did you read what I said
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ComradeDer
Could you elaborate on what he told you about „mob justice“
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:58 PM
Basically accused murderers, paedophiles, rapists, and thieves get tried and executed or punished by the people, and not a judicial system.
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Which is understandable as to why they are being punished.
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Yeah well that’s clear
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But I want you to
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Elaborate
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How is this done
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:59 PM
But it is very brutal and uncivilised in my point of view.
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ComradeDer
How is this done
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/05/2023 11:59 PM
He did not go into much detail.
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So I do not know.
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I See
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:00 AM
I apologise for my lack of understanding.
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Well, imo, an ancom society would have a mix of the two
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The judges should be elected, non biased and educated people
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And they should be Someone the community trusts
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Yes, I think the people involved should have a say on what happens to the perpetrator
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But I don’t really know how this is brutal and uncivilised
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ComradeDer
But I don’t really know how this is brutal and uncivilised
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:02 AM
The way it was showcased and explained to me at the time.
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ComradeDer
Well, imo, an ancom society would have a mix of the two
Idk if this would still truly by ancom tho I’m a libsoc
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:02 AM
You are helping me see the more civilised side of things.
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As you explain.
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Im glad I’m doing that
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Well,
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From my point of view
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:03 AM
But method of execution and punishment.
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Yes
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That’s what I’m (edited)
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Going into
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:03 AM
Not the system itself that bothers me.
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So, as a Norwegian,
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:03 AM
Okay, go ahead.
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Seeing how our system which isn’t based on punishment, but on rehabilitation, works perfectly
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With almost no reoffences
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I believe we should have a „punishment“ system similar to Norways
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I think community service is also a good „punishment“, but it would be an altered version of it ofc
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Now, you may say, serial killers could get off by living in luxury!
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Well, there will be times where the community which was rammed by this individual will have to decide what to do with him and give him a punishment that is just for (in hopes) everyone
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But again, this completely depends on the case itself
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:09 AM
I see, that makes things seem better.
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This view is of course not shared by all anarchists
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Because it’s a wide spectrum
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:10 AM
Just as long as It's not execution by brutal methods.
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But Libsoc sounds like a greater alternative. (edited)
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Libertarian socialism is also just a spectrum
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I borough many of my ideas from Anarcho communism and Anarcho syndicalism
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But if it will end up in a true Anarcho communist society? No idea
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It quite literally depends on how you interpret the ideology
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But what that society is called is completely irrelevant anyways
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Sorry if my typing is shit it’s like 6 am and I just woke up
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:13 AM
Yeah that's fine It's 12 for me and I have work at 8.
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Anyway.
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Thank you for explaining it to me.
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I see
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No problem
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If you have any questions please feel free to reach out to me, or any other anarchists in this server
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:15 AM
Alright thank you.
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Actually,
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What are most anarchists social views?
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Immigration, LGBTQ, critical race theory, etc.
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Well
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Our view on immigration is that
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Well the reason immigration exists is mainly because capitalism has failed poorer countries and forced people to flee from war, joblessness or search for jobs with better pay to support their families
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I think all immigrants should be welcome, but I also think we should stop the reason why they even have to come to us
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about LGBTQ
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Many anarchists identify as LGBTQ+, myself too, and I don’t see how it differs someone from anyone else
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So to most anarchists, gender or sexuality is complete irrelevant
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We accept anyone (as long as it’s not some pedosexual type shit)
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Could you elaborate on critical race theory
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:21 AM
I have no beliefs against it, but do you support It's ideals being pushed into western society via education?
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ComradeDer
Could you elaborate on critical race theory
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:22 AM
The belief that all system were created to suit the white race, not the other way around.
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It’s ideals being pushed?
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:22 AM
Yes.
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Lol
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So uhh
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:22 AM
It is being forced into childrens minds here.
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Woodlizard2019 05/06/2023 12:22 AM
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I can assure you it’s not
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:23 AM
In Canada.
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The kids are simply getting known with the fact that it exists
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:23 AM
Canada is a "PC" country.
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And that it’s normal to be LGBTQ
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That has nothing to do with forcing
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It’s like sex ed
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:23 AM
No, in Canada it is expanded past that.
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Are you a RW @0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
No, in Canada it is expanded past that.
So the schools force kids to become gay ?
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:24 AM
They tried making rainbow poppies official on remembrance day, that's a military holiday.
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ComradeDer
So the schools force kids to become gay ?
😱
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ComradeDer
So the schools force kids to become gay ?
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:24 AM
Teachers are able to promote it.
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The fuck are rainbow poppies
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:24 AM
And they do.
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
Teachers are able to promote it.
Again, they are just teaching kids that it exists
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ComradeDer
The fuck are rainbow poppies
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:24 AM
It's a poppy they made rainbow colours, even though It's not real.
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Woodlizard2019 05/06/2023 12:24 AM
Eats popcorn* 🍿🍿🍿
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Ong
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ComradeDer
Again, they are just teaching kids that it exists
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:25 AM
Okay.
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When a kid
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Feels different in terms of sexuality
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But doesn’t quite understand what it is
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And then has to live with its feelings repressed for its whole life
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Compared to
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When a kid has these same feelings
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Goes to school
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And that there is a teacher there which tells them
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Hey, if you feel like this your are this and this and that’s normal!
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Woodlizard2019 05/06/2023 12:26 AM
Wait what does crt have to do with lgbtq
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I don't understand this debate its jumping everywhere
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:27 AM
This is not a debate.
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If this was implemented on a large scale already, homophobia would be greatly reduced
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Woodlizard2019
Wait what does crt have to do with lgbtq
Huh
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ComradeDer
Huh
Woodlizard2019 05/06/2023 12:27 AM
Yall were just talking about crt right
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
This is not a debate.
^^
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Woodlizard2019
Yall were just talking about crt right
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:27 AM
What is CRT?
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Woodlizard2019
Wait what does crt have to do with lgbtq
Rw bullshit
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Woodlizard2019 05/06/2023 12:27 AM
And now its about lgbtq?
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What is crt
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Woodlizard2019 05/06/2023 12:27 AM
Critical Race theory???
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ComradeDer
Hey, if you feel like this your are this and this and that’s normal!
Common der W
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No
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We didn’t start with that
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:27 AM
Yeah I was asking about anarchists stance on the matter.
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That comes later.
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Woodlizard2019 05/06/2023 12:28 AM
Oh ok carry on then
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:28 AM
Shhhhh
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Lol
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:28 AM
Der is explaining still.
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Continue on.
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Woodlizard2019 05/06/2023 12:28 AM
Sorry for the interuption
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Uhh where was I
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:28 AM
No worries.
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So yeah
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It’s mostly not like anything is being forced upon the child, that’s just conservative propaganda bs
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If a kid already feels that way and finally understands and knows what this is
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And can identify as this
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:29 AM
I avoid both left and right wing propaganda.
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Doesn’t mean they have been forced
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But that they have finally been given a platform to understand it
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:30 AM
Because I do not like conservatives, nazis, or communists.
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But that they have finally been given a platform to understand it
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:30 AM
Yeah, and that is just regular.
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That a child should know more about themselves and the world.
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Changing culture, etc.
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
Because I do not like conservatives, nazis, or communists.
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:31 AM
Or liberals.
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
I avoid both left and right wing propaganda.
Well it sounds a lot like what conservatives are saying in the usa
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
That a child should know more about themselves and the world.
Yeah, but
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Sadly
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Most school systems are not based on teaching this to kids
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ComradeDer
Well it sounds a lot like what conservatives are saying in the usa
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:31 AM
I don't pay a lot of attention to American politics but yeah, they are hectic there.
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But they prepare kids for the capitalist exploitation they’re gonna get for the rest of their lives
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In my opinion the school system is complete fucking bullshit
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:32 AM
I like Finlands system.
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But also we live in a society where a diploma is put over skill.
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Finland has a rather good system, because it’s more based on what you said earlier
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But it’s still in a capitalist society
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I have a friend from Finland,
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Her school system is like
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Heaven
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Compared to mine
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I live in Switzerland
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ahmad jannati
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ComradeDer
I live in Switzerland
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:35 AM
Ah, very nice.
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I hear it is.
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ComradeDer
I live in Switzerland
Infamous for its school systems that often fuck up children’s rights
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
Ah, very nice.
Landscape wise
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Yes
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Everything else
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I hate it
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Ok history is cool too
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But still
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The system here is built for the rich,
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It’s a heaven for capitalists
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Police brutality, homophobia on a governmental scale, massive amounts of Racism, Homelessness
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All of this plagues our country
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:37 AM
Did you hear what passed in Uganda?
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Yeah
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It’s
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Horrifying
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ComradeDer
Police brutality, homophobia on a governmental scale, massive amounts of Racism, Homelessness
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:37 AM
It's the opposite in Canada.
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But you can be arrested for misgendering someone.
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Does that depend on wether you did it on purpose or not
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:38 AM
I think It's if you deliberately misgender them over and over again though.
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Yeah cause that’s harassment
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:38 AM
Hate speech is a crime here.
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As it should
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:38 AM
And that's a completely understandable law here.
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But it does not apply much to non white immigrants and citizens.
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Whaaaat
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:40 AM
Also some cafes here are charging men more than women for food.
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That’s interesting
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:40 AM
It's not a very equal country.
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I see
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:41 AM
That is something that can be fixed once Trudeau is out.
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Also we are becoming a Chinese puppet.
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So that's also just amazing
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Also it it true you have the best banks in Switzerland?
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
So that's also just amazing
Lol
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
Also it it true you have the best banks in Switzerland?
BAHA
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our uhh
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Second largest bank
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Crashed and died
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A month ago
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So uhhh
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:42 AM
Hm.
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Woodlizard2019 05/06/2023 12:42 AM
Rip
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That’s capitalism for ya
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:42 AM
I better put my money in the Cayman islands then.
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Banks are so shit
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Money depository my ass
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:43 AM
Currency is no longer real.
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It never really was.
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They hold power over all our wealth
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
It never really was.
^^
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:43 AM
It's just something most people agree on.
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Yeah
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Or
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Forced to agree on
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Due to
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Again
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School being a place
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That only prepares us on how we can get exploited by capitalism
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We grow up being told this is „normal“
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It isn’t
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:45 AM
Yes, only one can teach themselves to exploit capitalism to their advantage.
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80% of my Depressions are Suicidal feelings are because of School
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And many other people feel like this
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This isn’t a good system
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:46 AM
I don't like talking about this.
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But I often lose hope as well.
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Yet the old senile men who were in school 70 years ago who control our countries can’t seem to understand that
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
But I often lose hope as well.
I See
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:47 AM
School is mentally and physically draining, I have started resorting to chugging bottles of coffee to stay awake.
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Yeah exactly
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I have fucking
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School from 7 am
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To
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5 pm
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That’s like 9 hours of class
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Every
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:48 AM
Yeah.
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And then the weekends are just for projects and catching up.
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Studying too.
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It's hell.
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Exactly
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All school does is take away our childhood and make us exploitable
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Because we grow up thinking this is normal
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The Swiss school system is especially fucked
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Highschool ends when you are 16 (which is where I’m at rn)
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After that
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You have to work
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A regular job
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As an „apprenticeship“
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But it’s really just child Labour lmao
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:50 AM
Lucky you, highschool here lasts till the age of 18.
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i get to graduate when im 17
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I see
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:51 AM
Then you waste more time and money in college or university for about four to six years.
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Then you are "free" to go work a job for the rest of your life.
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Yeah
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Its
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Horrible, really
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But children lack initiative
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So they can’t like
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Strike
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Or form unions
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:52 AM
Damn, I guess we aren't so different after all.
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Or form unions
No, we will always be exploited and can’t do anything about it
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:52 AM
Even though I'm right leaning, and you are left.
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
Damn, I guess we aren't so different after all.
Yeah I guess so
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I mean in terms of school
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Most students would agree with us
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:53 AM
In terms of a lot of stuff, it what I have learned today.
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I have many friends from Scandinavia, they have like 4-5 hours of school per day
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they got not homework And the way class is run is wayyyy different
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It’s so much better
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Though still not perfect ofc
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
In terms of a lot of stuff, it what I have learned today.
Lol
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:54 AM
Well, like the current generation of adults say.
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We are the worlds next leaders.
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It's time we take that to heart as a strong group of young people.
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No matter the culture, religion, or language.
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Something must be done.
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
We are the worlds next leaders.
I wish the 100 year old ancient relics called our counties‘ leaders would see it that way too
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
Something must be done.
^^^
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Im thinking about writing a book about how shitty the school system is
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Along with a suggestion on how to revise it
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:56 AM
I am thinking on writing a manifesto on my own ideology.
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One good thing about Switzerland is the direct democracy, so technically with this book I could start a vote
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:57 AM
Build someething for the future.
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But kids can’t vote here sadly
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Do it’ll most likely be a flop
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One good thing about Switzerland is the direct democracy, so technically with this book I could start a vote
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:57 AM
Damn that's not how it is here.
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
I am thinking on writing a manifesto on my own ideology.
That’s nice
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
Damn that's not how it is here.
Well here the uneducated conservatives who don’t really understand anything but „Leftism bad! We Must be against anything that’s leftist! 🧌
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Dominate it here
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:59 AM
Hm, our leftists are idiots.
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Or just the liberals.
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Liberals tend to be that
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
Hm, our leftists are idiots.
I can assure you
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 12:59 AM
But most liberals / communists here are disrespectful, unprofessional, and they ruin this country.
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Most of the people in politics which are „leftist“
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Are just socdem
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ComradeDer
Are just socdem
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 1:00 AM
🤢
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Us, leftists that actually have plans on how to run stuff
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 1:00 AM
European leftists? (edited)
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Have been excluded
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From politics ages ago
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
European leftists? (edited)
No, here it’s all socdems too
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 1:01 AM
But real socdems.
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It originated in europe.
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Socdems at this point are just radical centrists
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 1:01 AM
Bernie Sanders is trying to make the U.S into Finland.
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 1:01 AM
Impossible.
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I mean
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Id choose him over any other candidate tjo
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But yeah
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They are all jokes
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America is a joke
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 1:02 AM
Deez Nuts is the best candidate.
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True
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Vermin supreme too
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Free ponies for everyone
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ComradeDer
America is a joke
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 1:02 AM
I have respect for american heroes, but not a lot of their politicians.
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Well yeah
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 1:03 AM
I have great respect for those who have served.
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America is cool with its history, landscape and some of its people
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But the system is absolute trash
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America is cool with its history, landscape and some of its people
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 1:03 AM
Yeah, there is lots to learn there.
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That's why I enjoy travelling to the patriotic states, they are clean, and the people there are friendly.
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Unlike California and New York.
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Shitholes.
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Never been to America so I can’t say anything
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 1:04 AM
I only recommend to go for Disney World or Pennsylvania.
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Lol alright
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 1:05 AM
Disney World is actually cool.
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Never been there, there’s one in Paris a think
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But school limits me to my room for most of my free time so
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 1:06 AM
Oh I see.
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Is your healthcare good?
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No
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It’s
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Complete shit
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Well I mean it’s better than the usa
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It’s mainly based on overpriced and shitty insurances
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That most people won’t even need
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And the healthcare system in general is just falling apart
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Because the funny racist politicians in power want to kick out all immigrants
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There is like
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No healthcare workers
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What conservatives here don’t understand is that the immigrants they do dearly hate fill up like all the essential jobs that we need
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Without them our country would not function at all
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 1:10 AM
Our healthcare is free, but also a piece of shit.
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Waits can take up to fifteen hours for a broken bone.
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God damn
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But yeah it’s similar here with waiting times
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 1:10 AM
It's the lack of doctors.
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And funding.
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Yup
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We definitely have the money here but the state spends it on
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 1:11 AM
The Canadian government is more focused on paying off our bullshit amount of debt.
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Oh right! Failing banks!!
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 1:11 AM
Yeah the banks.
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
The Canadian government is more focused on paying off our bullshit amount of debt.
Lol
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ComradeDer
Lol
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 1:12 AM
Yeah It's bad, taxes got raised to 41.5%.
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Dang
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 1:12 AM
Not as bad as Denmark though.
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Real
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 1:13 AM
I don't know how the Danes live.
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Well Denmark’s government actually spends some of that money on healthcare/schools/etc
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 1:13 AM
Yeah and that's why the people are happier.
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As a dane you don’t live like a bad life cause you gotta pay a lot of taxes
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What defines if your life is bad is what the government does with that tax money
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/06/2023 1:14 AM
True. (edited)
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Anyway, I better go to sleep now.
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Good talk.
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Thank you for explaining anarchism to me.
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No problem
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Have a good one
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ComradeDer
America is cool with its history, landscape and some of its people
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/06/2023 2:07 AM
American history is boring asf
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Meh
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Not rlly imo
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Depends though ig
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/06/2023 2:11 AM
Compared to events that have happened elsewhere, US history doesnt stand out imo
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Okay fair
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Theres definitely more interesting things but
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American working class history for example
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It’s cool
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/06/2023 2:12 AM
Yea thats true
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Like those battles the miners had against the police
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That’s based
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ComradeDer
American working class history for example
Yessir
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Id also love to go metal detecting in the USA
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/06/2023 2:12 AM
The american working class today is incredibly brainwashed now sadly
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Yeah
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
The american working class today is incredibly brainwashed now sadly
Where aren’t they atp
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Cause of them goddamn tvs/hj
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ComradeDer
Where aren’t they atp
Fr
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Even in poverty stricken countries
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(Philippines for example)
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Cough cough china
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ComradeDer
Where aren’t they atp
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/06/2023 2:13 AM
I mean before the mccarthy era the american working class was quite prone to violence
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ComradeDer
Cough cough china
Italy
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
I mean before the mccarthy era the american working class was quite prone to violence
Fair
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Ecxcentric
Italy
Oh god Italy
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
I mean before the mccarthy era the american working class was quite prone to violence
People are always
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You know I actually saw the Meloni woman in person
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/06/2023 2:14 AM
For example eugene debbs grew up working on trains at the ripe age of 13
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I mean they did lynching as entertainment
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Should’ve thrown a rock at her face
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
For example eugene debbs grew up working on trains at the ripe age of 13
Me af
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Should’ve thrown a rock at her face
Fr
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Hope someone shots her in Minecraft
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(This is a joke)
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👍🏾
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Ecxcentric
People are always
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/06/2023 2:15 AM
I dont think people are naturally violent, it has to be pushed
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(This is a joke)
True!
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I mean yeah
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/06/2023 2:16 AM
For example
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People just are violent sometimes
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
I dont think people are naturally violent, it has to be pushed
I agrée btw
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/06/2023 2:16 AM
One pf the big fears in the south during the civil war was a servile rebellion if emancipation was pushed through
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
I dont think people are naturally violent, it has to be pushed
True, for example when I see a Nazi Troll
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Yes
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/06/2023 2:17 AM
Which after the war and it ended that didnt happen, thus they had to change their ideology to give a reason they fought
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The lost cause mythos
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True, for example when I see a Nazi Troll
The urge to bark at bigots is strong
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/06/2023 2:17 AM
Which fuck woodrow wilson btw
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Worst president in US history period
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Single handedly had the worse effect on the world that still is being pushed to the present
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Alright 👍🏾
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/06/2023 2:20 AM
He fostered the 2nd coming of the kkk, created wilsonian interventionism(which the US is still doing), and was a revisionist historian.
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Yeah
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Tbh all presidents suck cheeks
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Politicians in general
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/06/2023 2:21 AM
Nah Benjamin Harrison was the best president
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Idk who that is
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/06/2023 2:22 AM
The best thing he did was die when he took office because he caught a cold during his inauguration
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Oh
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That guy
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Rare president W
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/06/2023 2:26 AM
Grant was also the president that labeled the KKK as a terrorist organisation and actively hunted them down with the use of the army and practically exterminated them. But he also used Government money to invest into the stock market and make a shit ton of money, which is really fucking funny to me
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Interesting
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:21 PM
@Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) I have no ideology.
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whaaaaat
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:21 PM
Sorry wrong person.
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im an anarcho transhumanist posadist
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sunglasses
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
@Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) I have no ideology.
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/07/2023 9:21 PM
you do
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
you do
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:22 PM
And what is it?
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/07/2023 9:22 PM
you are consumed by ideology
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how does root beer get its color
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:22 PM
I am consumed by nothing.
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i am consumed by money
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i am rich
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and capitalist
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:22 PM
Not the media, not the liberals, and not the government.
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and i am a CEO
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and im the 0.00001%
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:23 PM
I think freely without consequence, I am more dangerous to blue haired lesbians than Matt Walsh.
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im matt waslh
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
Not the media, not the liberals, and not the government.
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/07/2023 9:23 PM
you are consumed by the ideology of the disgruntled petite bourgeoisie
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im bourgeoisie irl no cap
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
you are consumed by the ideology of the disgruntled petite bourgeoisie
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:24 PM
Ew I'm not French.
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/07/2023 9:24 PM
if mussolini didn't fight on the side as hitler you would fully rally behind him
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
Ew I'm not French.
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/07/2023 9:24 PM
what does that have to do with anything
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i rally behind mussolini either waqy
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i rally behind mussolini either waqy
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/07/2023 9:25 PM
your a fascist?
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no ofc im not its a joke
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
if mussolini didn't fight on the side as hitler you would fully rally behind him
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:25 PM
No I would not, Mussolini is a fascist.
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my entire personality (in this server) revolves around jokes and trolling
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because i see nothing else to do here
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i dont really relate to anyoine here except @Deleted User
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im just kinda here
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ive been banned like what 3 times/
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:26 PM
Same.
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once permanently but that was somehow appealed
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so now i am just here
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with many restrictions
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:26 PM
It's fine because as long as @Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) is a miserable communist, I am a happy person.
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
It's fine because as long as @Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) is a miserable communist, I am a happy person.
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/07/2023 9:27 PM
im not miserable
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:28 PM
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Average rations in communist countries fr 💀
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/07/2023 9:30 PM
even in spite of our past conversations you still cling onto irrelevancies! there is no such thing as a communist country!
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:30 PM
I wonder why 🤔
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I wonder why 🤔
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/07/2023 9:32 PM
refresh yourself before you make a fool of yourself infront of everyone again.
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/07/2023 9:32 PM
because communism is an internationalist movement which entails the abolition of state power dumbass
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
refresh yourself before you make a fool of yourself infront of everyone again.
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:33 PM
No, I remember, just saying.
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/07/2023 9:33 PM
:O
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
because communism is an internationalist movement which entails the abolition of state power dumbass
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:33 PM
Yeah makes sense why nobody fucking uses it.
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/07/2023 9:33 PM
communism is not something thats used
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its not tried on like a new pair of shoes
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its an entirely new world system and mode of production which can be brought on only by the conscious effort of the working class as a whole
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:36 PM
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/07/2023 9:36 PM
are you like 11
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:37 PM
Yes.
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I am.
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How'd you know?
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/07/2023 9:37 PM
makes sense
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#unlimitedgenocideon11yearolds
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:38 PM
#communistsshouldgetalife
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/07/2023 9:38 PM
i have a life
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i work a full time job
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:38 PM
Your life is communism.
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
Your life is communism.
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/07/2023 9:39 PM
my driving passion is sure
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i dont deny this
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ISWAP>boko haram
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change my mind
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Kord
ISWAP>boko haram
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:40 PM
Zapatistas are cooler than both of them.
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:41 PM
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i would sewnd evidence to back up my statement but i am under threat of being permanently banned (again) if i send it
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/07/2023 9:41 PM
no weird links
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
no weird links
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:41 PM
Dropbox is safe but okay.
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
no weird links
the pdf in the new retarded channel:
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
no weird links
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:42 PM
So hold on, we can send the pdf's for Russian ICBM's? But the AK47 is where we cross the line?
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
So hold on, we can send the pdf's for Russian ICBM's? But the AK47 is where we cross the line?
hey man that was my pdf and it was boss
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hey man that was my pdf and it was boss
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:42 PM
It still doesn't work for me 😭
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it worked for me when i firsty downloaded it
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but that was many months ago
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
my driving passion is sure
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:44 PM
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the pdf in the new retarded channel:
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/07/2023 9:44 PM
warning dont use ablist language, also that has been pre approved.
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whgat ablist language
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
warning dont use ablist language, also that has been pre approved.
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:45 PM
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
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me irl
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
my driving passion is sure
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:46 PM
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
my driving passion is sure
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:46 PM
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Kord
whgat ablist language
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/07/2023 9:46 PM
read the rules, any further comment of that nature will be met with punishment.
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i didnt realize we were that sensitive around ehre
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
Zapatistas are cooler than both of them.
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/07/2023 9:47 PM
zapatistas are glorified coffee producers
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this place is worse than weenie hut jrs
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
zapatistas are glorified coffee producers
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:47 PM
GAGAGAGAGAGA
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i didnt realize we were that sensitive around ehre
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/07/2023 9:48 PM
Dont care didnt ask, follow the rules, or you will be punished. end of that discussion.
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yo mama
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beoooootch!!!!!!!!!
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wrong gif
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there we go
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
zapatistas are glorified coffee producers
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:48 PM
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BINCHALI
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BINCHALI MAMUSA
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Anyway communism will never succeed, better dead than read bud.
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Cope.
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Bro just admit your a RW fr fr (edited)
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/07/2023 9:51 PM
no argument
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
Anyway communism will never succeed, better dead than read bud.
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/07/2023 9:51 PM
so you have no real argument, very mature.
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/07/2023 9:52 PM
ok better dead than red how about you _ _
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:52 PM
I have one but I am studying for a test and I would rather do that than sit here listening to reds tell me about their lost cause ideology.
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
so you have no real argument, very mature.
Ka shiga sahun gaba Don tarwatsa arna Don karya tutar su Don rusa shirkar su Don kore kafirci Don zartar da shari'ar Allah Don karfafa addini Don daukaka tutar ka
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
I have one but I am studying for a test and I would rather do that than sit here listening to reds tell me about their lost cause ideology.
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/07/2023 9:53 PM
you initiated the argument.
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/07/2023 9:54 PM
what 0 analysis does to a mfer
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/07/2023 9:54 PM
you wasted your own time like what
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tjhis server is filled with LIBERAL SISSIES!!!!!!!!!!
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
you wasted your own time like what
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:54 PM
Iteresting.
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Kord
tjhis server is filled with LIBERAL SISSIES!!!!!!!!!!
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:55 PM
NO MORE LIBERAL BULLSHIT
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who get OFFENDED BY WORDS!!!!!
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that nobody in their right mind GIVES A SHIT ABOUT!!!!!!!!
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(no cap)
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but fr thats like a rrrrrrrrrrrrrrestupid rule
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that nobody in their right mind GIVES A SHIT ABOUT!!!!!!!!
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/07/2023 9:55 PM
nobody cares that you are fussy about rules.
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yo mama
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u r taking away my free speech
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thats not vcery anarchist of u
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yo mama
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/07/2023 9:56 PM
If you dont like tit than leave.
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Kord
thats not vcery anarchist of u
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/07/2023 9:56 PM
Im not an anarchist.
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ur a fasicts
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😎
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Kord
ur a fasicts
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/07/2023 9:56 PM
k glowie.
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(u r not letting me say a word)
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
k glowie.
howd u know 😱
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my cover is blown!!!!!!! oh noes!!!!!!!!!!
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kzhhht boys its over, over kzzhhhht
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
Im not an anarchist.
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:57 PM
The Anti Fascist front is anarchist bruh, god damn.
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/07/2023 9:57 PM
this is why programmatic clarity is so important
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 9:57 PM
This is literally Roblox ANTIFA.
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
The Anti Fascist front is anarchist bruh, god damn.
fake and gay
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
The Anti Fascist front is anarchist bruh, god damn.
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/07/2023 9:57 PM
did I ask?
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/07/2023 9:57 PM
antifascism itself isn't necessarily an anarchist movement
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/07/2023 9:58 PM
Its the same guy that thinks maoism is extreme communism.
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/07/2023 9:58 PM
it originated in the 1930s as the official policy of stalinism in order to appeal to bourgeois powers
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lets turn this bitch into AAHW headquarters
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cuz rn this is CRINGE and GAY ROPLOITICIS
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lets kill hank wimbleton
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fuck lego politic
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/07/2023 9:59 PM
go to bed.
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no it 9pm
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only 30 miunutes past my bedtime :cryu
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😢
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/07/2023 9:59 PM
perfect go to bed.
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y u use periods but not capitalization
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mad weird
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/07/2023 10:00 PM
nobody asked.
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u look silly
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
nobody asked.
very mature response
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Kord
very mature response
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/07/2023 10:01 PM
i dont, remember asking.
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very very mature
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Kord
very very mature
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/07/2023 10:01 PM
i dont
22:01
remember asking?
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ur making a fool out of urself lil homie
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Kord
ur making a fool out of urself lil homie
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/07/2023 10:01 PM
i dont
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be original
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/07/2023 10:02 PM
remember asking?
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What are you guys even arguing about at this point lol
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idk im just messing with him
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hes taking the bait 😢
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Ecxcentric
What are you guys even arguing about at this point lol
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/07/2023 10:02 PM
dudes an isis larp pay no mind
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Alright
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Why are their so many
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so many what
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(Isis) larpers
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Ecxcentric
Why are their so many
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/07/2023 10:03 PM
they think its funny or cool or something
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no i just like ISWAP for the aesthetic
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and also it pisses u off
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idgaf about isis
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and also it pisses u off
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/07/2023 10:03 PM
i dont
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iswap is where its at yo
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/07/2023 10:04 PM
remember asking?
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do u need a bottle
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baby needs bottle?
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aww 🥺
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calm down bucko
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its not that serious
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smh
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/07/2023 10:04 PM
dont
22:04
remember asking?
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
they think its funny or cool or something
It’s like giving 10 yr old
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😱 thats wild and crazy
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Ecxcentric
It’s like giving 10 yr old
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/07/2023 10:05 PM
pretty much.
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Ecxcentric
It’s like giving 10 yr old
hes giving me attention dont blame me
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You just seem like ur coping tbh
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis)
pretty much.
u relaize u could just stop respodning
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Ecxcentric
You just seem like ur coping tbh
who
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Kord
u relaize u could just stop respodning
Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/07/2023 10:05 PM
didnt ask?
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cope with this dick
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Wow so cool! And funny!
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no cap.........
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 10:07 PM
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
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ONG
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it wouldnt be if the council didnt suck
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the server if der was glorious eternal leader and nobody else:
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 10:08 PM
We should have a Minecraft world for this server.
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i will grief it
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/07/2023 10:09 PM
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Kord
ONG
Then leave tbh
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
The Anti Fascist front is anarchist bruh, god damn.
What 💀
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@Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) Aren't you anarchist
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 05/08/2023 10:44 AM
wait
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dunno what this is exactly
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but here
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That is uh
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Not anarchism
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At all
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor)
wait
But why would you claim to be anarchist in your bio while defending a state
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor)
dunno what this is exactly
That’s pretty much just democratic socialism
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ComradeDer
That’s pretty much just democratic socialism
Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 05/08/2023 10:58 AM
ah alright
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ComradeDer
But why would you claim to be anarchist in your bio while defending a state
?
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ComradeDer
But why would you claim to be anarchist in your bio while defending a state
Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 05/08/2023 10:58 AM
i only have the symbol
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well the A
10:59
makes it look better
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Your Roblox bio says you are Makhnovist
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Wait no it says your anarchist
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Lol
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 05/08/2023 11:00 AM
yea
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Then why are you
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Defending a state
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Defending the state of Israel pretty much contradicts anarchism
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Even if Israel would be peaceful, it would still contradict it
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 05/08/2023 11:01 AM
i support the idea of a jewish country i don't support the israeli government
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Jewish country
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oh mawh gawhd
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Then you are not anarchist
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 05/08/2023 11:01 AM
🤨
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ig i'm not
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since it says demsoc
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There are no countries in anarchism
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Thats pretty easy to understand
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor)
since it says demsoc
So you're just a radical Social Democrat
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 05/08/2023 11:03 AM
i guess
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Mk
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 05/08/2023 11:04 AM
look i dont want yall to think i support israeli war crimes i dont i just believe the land should be split and both sides should live in peace
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there are 2 million arabs (pretty sure) living in israeli peacefully rn
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor)
look i dont want yall to think i support israeli war crimes i dont i just believe the land should be split and both sides should live in peace
Nothing should be split into two
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The land doesnt belong to anybody
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Nobody has the right to claim land as their own
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 05/08/2023 11:08 AM
so you think the entire world should be like united?
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United?
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 05/08/2023 11:08 AM
well
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no borders
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no countries
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Thats literally what anarchism emphasises so yeah
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RIP_Daniel (@Forti_daniel) 05/08/2023 11:34 AM
What if a Duck is President?
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We must kill the duck then
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RIP_Daniel (@Forti_daniel) 05/08/2023 11:42 AM
Mhm
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also if its my pet Ducky?
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THen i will kill you too
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RIP_Daniel (@Forti_daniel) 05/08/2023 11:45 AM
Mhm
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What if i kill the Duck and the make party with the meat?
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then a plant mutiple plastic explosives at that party and blow it up
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RIP_Daniel (@Forti_daniel) 05/08/2023 12:07 PM
so we are not Duck friendly
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 05/08/2023 12:26 PM
Wasn’t there literally a dog that was the mayor of a town in California
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Also a cat
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no idea
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ComradeDer
So you're just a radical Social Democrat
Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/08/2023 2:19 PM
der spitting
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor)
dunno what this is exactly
0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/08/2023 6:18 PM
?
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It’s giving fash
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8) 05/08/2023 9:09 PM
Naw I’m joking bruv, I went through it and chose the most obnoxiously authoritarian and right wing options possible.
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Or am I?
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What if my beliefs line up with that of Singapore’s? (edited)
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus) 05/08/2023 11:39 PM
I HATE THE POLITICAL COMPASS
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compasscels vs people who read
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0ttoman (@MagicalTurtle8)
?
Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 05/09/2023 12:39 AM
I thought for a sec bruh
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Yaira (@YairaCaelitus)
I HATE THE POLITICAL COMPASS
Fo Rea
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„THIS IS MY SCORE THAT MEANS I MUST BE THAT IDEOLOGY“
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Anton (@AntonRestitutorOrbis) 05/09/2023 5:25 AM
Mfr do the political compass test and make it their whole personality
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Frfr
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Dc or marvel?
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None! I prefer real life superheroes like Che Guevara or Emma Goldman
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true lol
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Ecxcentric
Dc or marvel?
Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 05/10/2023 1:55 PM
why is this in debates 😭
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Ppl have very strong feelings about this
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 05/10/2023 1:56 PM
well marvel movies but dc comics probably
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Yeah
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dc shows aren’t that bad either
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 05/10/2023 1:57 PM
meh
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Imo marvel shows are like mostly the same
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Ihzzz (@Gwentamor) 05/10/2023 2:00 PM
marvel shows are pretty ass
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Yeah
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Hot take but the DC cw shows are not that bad
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💀
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Imagine watching television instead of throwing fireworks into cops houses (In roblox)
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Yeah
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But I’m like a coward
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Just put a ski mask on
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Maybe idk
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I’m like always doing shit
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And my mom would get mad If I went out in like middle of the night lmao
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I just tell them I go to a sleepover (in roblox)
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I really wanna like rent a old bunker/cellar
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Where i can have a "Hangout"
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(an anarchism dungeon)
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It would make it easier for me to stay outside for longer periods of times without them getting suspicious (edited)
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Nice
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You should try to find an abandoned one cos free
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I lived in an abandoned paint factory once
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Then the cops came
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Sad
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EugeneV_Debs 05/20/2023 2:43 PM
Sw sequels are good it's just the male Fandom Hayes woman
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Der is homeless
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I am indeed homeless
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EugeneV_Debs 05/20/2023 2:57 PM
But ur collection
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the feds took it
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Free ponies for everyone
purrr (@FanslyModel) 05/29/2023 9:23 AM
thats real communism 🫡
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TRUE!
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Click to see attachment 🖼️
purrr (@FanslyModel) 05/30/2023 10:51 PM
mental illness
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Yes
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Woodlizard2019 05/30/2023 11:59 PM
What the fuck
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Woodlizard2019 05/31/2023 1:16 AM
😏
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 05/31/2023 1:17 AM
Even if there is a "lesser evil" that title shows that they are both evil. Democrats and Repubicans are neoliberal systems which opress the proletarian and should be tore down, I understand why you could support them if you are blinded to class consciousness but I think you should read marx if you havent already, these structures are chains to the proletarian and all capitalist hierarchies must be taken down
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Woodlizard2019 05/31/2023 1:17 AM
Republicans are neoliberal
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?
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 05/31/2023 1:17 AM
Yes, all capitalist hierarchies are neoliberal
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Woodlizard2019 05/31/2023 1:17 AM
I mean maybe some
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 05/31/2023 1:18 AM
Republicans are more neoliberal than democrats
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but both suck
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I think you should read Matt Fisher, Capitalist Realism; is there no alternative?
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really great book to help you understand how violent these structures are
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Woodlizard2019 05/31/2023 1:18 AM
How are republicans more left than democrats
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Woodlizard2019
How are republicans more left than democrats
eridan (@QProtagonist) 05/31/2023 1:18 AM
neoliberal isnt left lol
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eridan (@QProtagonist)
I think you should read Matt Fisher, Capitalist Realism; is there no alternative?
Woodlizard2019 05/31/2023 1:18 AM
Ok ill look at it
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 05/31/2023 1:19 AM
neoliberal does not mean "new liberal" if thats what your thinking
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Woodlizard2019 05/31/2023 1:19 AM
I didnt say it was left
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I know
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Wait
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I think i just misunderstood
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Woodlizard2019
How are republicans more left than democrats
eridan (@QProtagonist) 05/31/2023 1:19 AM
Both are right winged I dont know if it really matters to pick which is more left
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Woodlizard2019 05/31/2023 1:19 AM
Yes
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 05/31/2023 1:19 AM
All capitalist policies and politicans are right winged, including bernie sanders
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eridan (@QProtagonist)
I think you should read Matt Fisher, Capitalist Realism; is there no alternative?
purrr (@FanslyModel) 05/31/2023 1:19 AM
nuh uh
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 05/31/2023 1:20 AM
even though bernie is like only slightly cause socdem
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purrr (@FanslyModel) 05/31/2023 1:20 AM
reading sucks!!
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purrr (@FanslyModel)
reading sucks!!
eridan (@QProtagonist) 05/31/2023 1:20 AM
yeah but its a REALLLLY easy read
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Woodlizard2019 05/31/2023 1:20 AM
Ok so im a big conservative joining this group then, huh
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 05/31/2023 1:20 AM
not conservative lol
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Woodlizard2019
Ok so im a big conservative joining this group then, huh
purrr (@FanslyModel) 05/31/2023 1:20 AM
nuh uh
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 05/31/2023 1:20 AM
bernie is only slightly right its too nuanced to care that much about
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Woodlizard2019 05/31/2023 1:20 AM
In the grand scheme
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Of things i mean
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 05/31/2023 1:20 AM
I just think your looking at things from inside the capitalist hierarchy instead of expanding your viewpoint
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Woodlizard2019 05/31/2023 1:20 AM
Of this group or party (edited)
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 05/31/2023 1:21 AM
The entire point of leftism is that we dont need capitalism because of how opressive it is, we must tear it down completely. Every shred and ounce of it must be torn, burned, and removed
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Woodlizard2019 05/31/2023 1:21 AM
Ok
01:21
Im stuck in the middle between a regulated capitalist economy and a full socialist economy
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purrr (@FanslyModel)
reading sucks!!
Tru
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Woodlizard2019
Im stuck in the middle between a regulated capitalist economy and a full socialist economy
purrr (@FanslyModel) 05/31/2023 1:22 AM
market socialism 😏
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purrr (@FanslyModel)
market socialism 😏
eridan (@QProtagonist) 05/31/2023 1:22 AM
NO!!!
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Woodlizard2019 05/31/2023 1:22 AM
Yea
01:22
Like bernie is always talking about scandinavian economies right
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And how they are some of the best
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 05/31/2023 1:22 AM
bernies some weirdo who wants to mix in socialism and capitalism and supports bourgeiouse institutes
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Woodlizard2019 05/31/2023 1:23 AM
But they are welfare states and not socialist
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Woodlizard2019
But they are welfare states and not socialist
eridan (@QProtagonist) 05/31/2023 1:23 AM
a socialist state is both classless and stateless, no society like that exists in the present day except for maybe something like the EZLN or Zapistas
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a communist state is further along the chain then socialism and is classless moneyless and stateless, no society like that exists in modern day time or has ever existed
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eridan (@QProtagonist)
bernies some weirdo who wants to mix in socialism and capitalism and supports bourgeiouse institutes
Average soc dem
01:23
Fr
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eridan (@QProtagonist)
a socialist state is both classless and stateless, no society like that exists in the present day except for maybe something like the EZLN or Zapistas
Woodlizard2019 05/31/2023 1:23 AM
Thats more anarcho tho
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Ecxcentric
Average soc dem
eridan (@QProtagonist) 05/31/2023 1:24 AM
All Soc Dems*
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Woodlizard2019
Thats more anarcho tho
eridan (@QProtagonist) 05/31/2023 1:24 AM
Centralized Market "Socialism" or Centralized "Socialism" is actually just leninist/stalinist institutions and is chauvinistic and anti marx (edited)
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Woodlizard2019 05/31/2023 1:24 AM
Ah ok
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 05/31/2023 1:24 AM
A centralized economy goes against marx's ideas
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Decentralization!
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eridan (@QProtagonist)
All Soc Dems*
Yes
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 05/31/2023 1:25 AM
The difference between anarchy and communism is that anarchy is much more broad and also wants instant evaporation of the statte while communist and socialists want it to fade away
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Woodlizard2019 05/31/2023 1:25 AM
I think there should still be a liberal direct democratic government
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eridan (@QProtagonist)
The difference between anarchy and communism is that anarchy is much more broad and also wants instant evaporation of the statte while communist and socialists want it to fade away
Woodlizard2019 05/31/2023 1:25 AM
Ok
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Woodlizard2019
I think there should still be a liberal direct democratic government
eridan (@QProtagonist) 05/31/2023 1:25 AM
Idk about liberal
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I support the idea of a working class founded government which is why I like the councilist ideas of council communism
01:25
but any "government" shouldnt form hierarchies cause then we just have class again
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Woodlizard2019 05/31/2023 1:26 AM
Yea
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I want there to be a closer class gap as well but i dont really know about classlessness
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Woodlizard2019
I want there to be a closer class gap as well but i dont really know about classlessness
eridan (@QProtagonist) 05/31/2023 1:27 AM
“The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas, i.e. the class which is the ruling material force of society, is at the same time its ruling intellectual force. The class which has the means of material production at its disposal, has control at the same time over the means of mental production, so that thereby, generally speaking, the ideas of those who lack the means of mental production are subject to it. The ruling ideas are nothing more than the ideal expression of the dominant material relationships, the dominant material relationships grasped as ideas.”
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"The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles."
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Woodlizard2019 05/31/2023 1:28 AM
That actually made sense to me
01:28
But cant we just have a law that says nobody can control mental production
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 05/31/2023 1:28 AM
All struggle in society be it that of Minorities or the poor amounts in the end to class struggle, the class hierarchy must be abolished its in entirety
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Woodlizard2019 05/31/2023 1:28 AM
And enforce it
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Idk
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Woodlizard2019
But cant we just have a law that says nobody can control mental production
eridan (@QProtagonist) 05/31/2023 1:28 AM
Law and Police are bourgeiouse institutions which dont really benefit society
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Police kill and take more than a human could ever steal or do
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The Police are executioners for the rich (edited)
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Woodlizard2019 05/31/2023 1:29 AM
Ok
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 05/31/2023 1:30 AM
anyways
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ima
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go to bed
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night
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Woodlizard2019 05/31/2023 1:30 AM
Wait
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eridan (@QProtagonist) 05/31/2023 1:30 AM
if you have any questions dm me and i can get them answered later
01:30
what
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purrr (@FanslyModel) 05/31/2023 1:30 AM
gn
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Woodlizard2019 05/31/2023 1:30 AM
So you mean there is no real way to protect anyone from anything without a classless society
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Because something will always get thru
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Woodlizard2019
So you mean there is no real way to protect anyone from anything without a classless society
eridan (@QProtagonist) 05/31/2023 1:30 AM
you can protect people my point is police are a bourgeiouse institution which have no place in any morally just society
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anyways
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goodnight
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Woodlizard2019 05/31/2023 1:31 AM
Ok gn nice talk
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Bernie 2024
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purrr (@FanslyModel) 05/31/2023 1:31 AM
aoc 2024 😼
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Woodlizard2019 05/31/2023 1:34 AM
True
01:34
Bernie will die
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purrr (@FanslyModel) 05/31/2023 1:35 AM
LOL
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Woodlizard2019 05/31/2023 1:37 AM
Rip bernie
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eridan (@QProtagonist)
Law and Police are bourgeiouse institutions which dont really benefit society
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